Catholic Church: Shun pro-choice candidates

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Lingayen-Dagupan Archbishop Socrates Villegas (cbcpforlife.com photo)

MANILA, Philippines – The Philippines’ powerful Catholic Church is to ask Filipinos to vote candidates who support birth control out of office in the May elections, a Church official said Saturday.

The guidelines, to be read at Sunday masses across the country, are seen as an attack on President Benigno Aquino III’s allies who pushed for a controversial birth control law that was passed last year.

Archbishop Socrates Villegas, vice president of the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines, said in a copy of the pastoral letter sent to Agence France-Presse: “Pro-choice is anti-life.”

He added: “We advise you not to vote for the candidate if the candidate cannot declare a categorical and clear ‘no’ to divorce, abortion, euthanasia, total birth control and homosexual marriages or death issues.”

The law requires state health centres to hand out free condoms and birth control pills and mandates that sex education be taught in schools.

However, the Supreme Court has temporarily suspended the law as it resolves at least six legal challenges filed by the church’s allies.

The Philippines is to hold mid-term elections on May 13 for the House of Representatives, half the 24-seat Senate, and thousands of local government posts.

About 80 percent of the Philippines’ 100 million people are Catholic, a legacy of Spanish colonial rule that ended in the late 1800s.

The Church remains one of the nation’s most powerful institutions, helping ensure that the Philippines remains one of the few places on earth where both abortion as well as divorce remain illegal.

Reacting to the pastoral letter, Aquino spokesman Ricky Carandang told AFP: “We trust in the wisdom of the Filipino voter.”

The document also urges Catholics to shun candidates who are “antagonistic to church teachings and practices”, philanderers, drug dealers, and those who destroy the environment, buy votes or engage in terrorism.

Villegas, who heads an archdiocese in the vote-rich northern province of Pangasinan, however warned the church against outrightly endorsing its own candidates.

“When the Church endorses candidates in political elections she always ends up a loser,” he said.

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  • nes911

    Obey your conscience and not what the church or anyone dictates. Parang iglesia na ni kristo ang simbahang katoliko. Nakakadismayado.

    • regd

      To get elected, just feed the poor with food and lies. The catholic church and politicians perfected this technique. Works all the time.

      • disqus_WIkXYUshrh

        Both are hypocrites..

      • boldyak

        you are also a hipocrite…

      • http://twitter.com/alfs_alfs Pons Corpuz

        what makes disqus_WIkXYUshrh hypocrite? sorry this is an honest question.

      • mamer2

        just an ignorant hypocrite.!
        talks and comments…, but
        doesn’t really know what he is commenting about.!.!.!

      • http://twitter.com/alfs_alfs Pons Corpuz

        still, you did not answer my question why. Its easy to say “hypocrite”, “idi0t”, etc. without any reason why.

        “just an ignorant hypocrite.!” is not really a valid reason and not a reason at all. Di pwede yong “basta” lang.

        “talks and comments..” – we a re in a democratic country, everyone is free to talk and comment just like you.

        “doesn’t really know what he is commenting about.!.!.!” – how did you say so? No one has the monopoly of the truth unless maybe you are ultramega intelligent, which, base on your logic, I think you are not.

      • jessica chan

        it takes 1 hypocrite to know 1. you can’t even spell right, moron.

      • txtman

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        IBABAD SA MAPANGHING MEDIA- S
        ADD INQUIR=EE DE FRUITA
        IHALO DIN ANG STAR DE LECHE
        MIX WITH A-BS CBBN TAPIOCA
        HALUIN NG YELLOW LAPDOG DE CREAMA
        ILAGAY SA VOTE
        VIOLA!
        DAGDAG-BAWAS DE PE- NOI
        BILI NA
        SALE: 500.00 PER VOTE
        PITIFUL
        AHAHAHA

      • Dax Cogitlog

        well said !

      • txtman

        AQUINORROYO BANANA SPLITS
        LUTOIN ANG COMELEC DE SABA MAGUINDANAO
        IBABAD SA BULOK NA MEDIA- S
        ADD INQUIR-EE DE FRUITA
        IHALO DIN ANG STAR DE LECHE
        MIX WITH A-BS CBBN TAPIOCA
        HALUIN NG YELLOW LAPDOGS DE CREAMA
        ILAGAY SA VOTE

        MAGNIFICO!
        DAGDAG-BAWAS DE PE-NOI
        AYUS, MGA PINOYS
        BILI NA!
        AHAHAHA
        PITIFUL

    • Michael Mallari

      obey the consience ??? ang tanong.. may kunsensiya pa tayo …. eh bagsak na bagsak na ang moralidad ng mga pinoy??? pre marital sex is rampant…. instead na ang VALUE ang paigtingin…. sinsuportahan pa ito…. Tama lang ang sabi ng mga pare ng katoliko.. it is time they put their weight on it..sana nga lang.. may mga katolikong pang may bukas na pag-iisip sa TUNAY na daang matuwid.. DOWN WITH THE RH BILL >>>>

      • nes911

        Kami mayroon, bakit ikaw wala kang konsyensya? Kawawa ka naman.

      • boldyak

        mas kawawa ka

      • jessica chan

        let me guess: you’re a low level employee with 8 kids, and your wife is pregnant. ikaw pa na aawa.

      • txtman

        MAY ISSUE BA?
        SABI NINYO WALANG NANINIWALA SA CATHOLIC CHURCH?
        GANON PALA EH
        SO, DAPAT NO WORRY NA KAYO NIYA
        OH, KAIN KA MUNA

        AQUINORROYO BANANA SPLITS?
        PITIFUL
        AHAHAHA

      • panhase

        You said “re marital sex is rampant”. You are perfectly right, it is rampant for generations without any Rh-law. Even priests engage in this game. So what is your point?

      • marionics

        premarital sex…aaaah those were the days he he

      • txtman

        GANON BA?
        SO SA RH BABABA NA BA YAN?
        BAKIT?
        DAHIL NGUNGUYA NA SILA NG CONDOMS?
        PAPAANO KAYA SILA KAKAIN NG CONDOM?
        AHAHAHA
        PITIFUL

      • buttones

        I can see nothing wrong with having sex before marriage, so long as it doesn’t interfere with the ceremony…..

      • jpeter262

        Is that not against the God’s Law?

      • buttones

        It was actually a very old joke- but never mind!

      • jpeter262

        sorry, I thought you are serious.

      • panhase

        Hahaha,, I love your comments.

      • reddfrog

        Pre-marital sex? Ano, with underaged boys?

      • boldyak

        yan ba gawain mo?

      • disqus_WIkXYUshrh

        No marital at pre marital sex? Eh mga pari nga ang mahilig diyan. Careful careful.

      • boldyak

        ikaw may sabi nyan na hindi katoliko…

      • jessica chan

        boldyak, you are a blind man being led by the blind

      • txtman

        AHHHHH
        HINDI KA PALA BLIND
        KAYA PALA DIRETSO SUBO KA NA

        SA CHOCOLATE FLAVOR
        GALING MO NAMAN IHA
        AHIHIHIHIHI
        PITIFUL

      • txtman

        ANG INIT AH!
        KAIN KA MUNA OH
        AQUINORROYO BANANA SPLITS
        PITIFUL

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        bakit hindi mo unang sabihin iyan sa mga paring pedophile at mga bakla na ginawang fafa ang mga sakristan.

        Bago sila mangaral linisin muna nila ang bakuran nila.

      • pubringjuandelacruz

        seriously??? those who support RH are narrow-minded??!?!?!?! my religion shouldn’t give a $hit on what I and my partner do in the bedroom…

    • rick1114

      You are all ignorant of what the Church is all about. The Church does not endorse a candidate because he is a good choice but because they are good Christians who are following the teachings of Christ. Please do not make Catholic similar to Iglesia, the latter endorses a candidate because they are their choice.

      • Facilitator1

        RCC don’t endorse political candidates? Then, what do you call the tarpaulin of TEAM BUHAY and TEAM PATAY that the RCC (specifically, the Archdiocese of Bacolod) hanged/posted in front of the church? If you don’t call that an endorsesment then you’re in DENIAL. PEACE

      • txtman

        AQUINORROYO BANANA SPLITS

        LUTOIN ANG COMELEC DE SABA MAGUINDANAO
        IBABAD SA MAPANGHING MEDIA-S
        ADD INQUIR-EE DE FRUITA
        IHALO ANG STAR DE LECHE
        MIX WITH A-BS CBBN TAPIOCA
        HALUIN NG YELLOW LAPDOGS DE CREAM
        ILAGAY SA VOTE
        MAGNIFICO!
        DAGDAG-BAWAS DE PE-NOI
        HOW, SARAP NAMAN YAN!
        BUY VOTE NA!
        AHAHAHA
        PITIFUL

      • mamer2

        To give you a better understanding of the CHURCH…,
        1, Each Bishop is the leader of his diocese.
        2. Each Bishop is under the supervision & leadership of the Holy See.
        3. No Bishop is under another Bishop, unless
        so ordered by the Holy See.
        Holy See = Vatican/Pope.

      • reddfrog

        We all know what the Catholic Church is all about: Lies, hypocrisy and pedophilia. bwahahahahahaha!

      • Commentator

        catholism: commit sins on monday to saturday, repent on sunday. rinse and repeat.

      • disqus_WIkXYUshrh

        I like your comment. Very easy & simple and systematic pala ang buhay ng mga katoliko Join ako. Wala ang ibang relihiyon ng ganyang kagandang sistema. Teka, paano magrerepent?

      • disqus_WIkXYUshrh

        Worshiping man made images and rebultos and praying with the rosary, a teaching of Christ? Who then is the ignorant Christ follower or Christian? You badly need to read the Holy Bible more.

      • boldyak

        you really need to know what you are talking about…

      • http://twitter.com/erncastillo ern

        you’re going too far and skewed. Christianity came after the death of Christ. He is the main subject of the icons, and not any other idol.

        Even the written bible, specifically the new testament came after Christ, you ignorant! You preach the bible with your own interpretations and those before you, a million or billion times…..why will we believe you?

        The rosary speaks of the death of Christ…. why do you ask if it is a teaching of Christ? It is a way of prayer based on faith….leave them alone….pray your way…

      • txtman

        QUESTION SA IYO KULOKOY
        BAKIT MAY MGA PICTURES KA NG MGA MAHAL MO SA BUHAY
        OR MGA ARTISTA?
        HINAHALIKAN MO PA MGA PICTURES NILA?
        OH, ALAM MO NA ANG SAGOT?
        NEXT TIME, GAMITIN MO BRAIN MO HA?
        PITIFUL
        AHAHAHAHA

      • http://twitter.com/NinWalter Moonbuster

        haha. at least yung mga loved ones na to existing at hindi gawa-gawa lang.

      • tagasugod

        Tama. Maski si brod Eli may picture sa likod nya. Ha ha ha!

      • mamer2

        Remember that the “Holy Bible” as we know it today…, was selected, gathered and compiled from various holy scriptures by the early Christians, who were then Roman Catholics.

        Then…, there were no “protestants”(as we know them, today), “revivalist”. “reformists” etc…, except heretics(the original ‘protestants’), agnostics.., etc.

      • disqus_WIkXYUshrh

        Eto pa isang mangmang na hindi nagbabasa ng bible. Saan mo naman napulot ang mga sinabi mo. Magbasa ka na book of Hebrews, at iba pang books sa new testamament para hindi ka pagtawanan ng nakakaintindi at nakakakalam na tunay na salita ng Diyos. Kawawa ka naman.

      • mamer2

        @disqus_WIkXYUshrh : Maronong ka ba mag basa nang ingles…?
        Intindihin mo muna ang binabasa mo, bago ka mag komento.
        No further discussion with you. Hindi tayo mag ka “level”.
        Mahirap mag diskusyon sa isang “konting-alam na ma dal-dal”.
        (…a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.)

      • disqus_WIkXYUshrh

        MARONONG? Bisaya ka gid. Tama lang di tayo magkalevel you are down under (not an australian) mamertu.

      • maj0_rimbaud

        kaya pala – good christians pala yung mga magnanakaw at smugglers.

      • txtman

        OO, MGA KATULAD MO SILA
        HINDI BA?
        PITIFUL

      • ganipecson

        Credibility brother.. credibility.. That’s the problem of the CBCP..

      • txtman

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        LUTOIN ANG COMELEC DE SABA MAGUINDANAO
        IBABAD SA MAPANGHING MEDIA – S
        ADD INQUIR-EE DE FRUITA
        IHALO ANG STAR DE LECHE
        MIX WITH A-BS CBBN TAPIOCA
        HALUIN NG YELLOW LAPDOGS DE CREAMA
        ILAGAY SA VOTE
        MAGNIFICO!
        DAGDAG-BAWAS DE PE-NOI
        TAMAN-TAMA SA SUMMER!
        BUY VOTE NA!
        PITIFUL
        AHAHAHA

      • LAMBFORGOVERNOR

        Ha! Now that is funny.

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Blocking the RH law is blocking the right of others to CHOOSE.

        Ang mga pari walang karapatan harangin ang RIGHT ng ibang tao
        to excercise their freedom of the right to choose.

        Kaya iyang pagblock nila sa RH LAW is a disrespect to the rights of non believers.

      • txtman

        AHHHHH!
        GUSTO DIN NILA ABORTION
        GUSTO DIN NILA SAME SEX MARRRIAGE
        GUSTP DIN NILA MADAMING ASAWA
        GUSTO DIN NILA NG DROGA
        GUSTO DIN NILA SI SATANAS
        SORRY HA?
        SIGE GAWIN MO NA YAN
        PITIFUL

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        How pitiful of the priests. Sa ka pangangaral ng pari na mali ang Abortion, Homosexuality, Adultery at Droga, it did not curb the immorality inside the church itself.

        Sabi ng mga pari, Immoral ang pagkabakla, pero marami ang pedophile sa kanila, nangmolestya ng mga bata at ginagawang FAFA ang mga sakristan.

        Sabi ng mga pari, immoral ang adultery, pero marami rin sa kanila ang nakabuntis at pumapatol sa mga may asawa na.

        Bago sila mangaral sa kapwa, linisin muna nila ang mga sariling bakod nila.

        mga epokrito.

      • txtman

        HAVE YOU HEARD THE WORD INFILTRATION?
        KUNG NAGKASALA SILA EH DI PARUSAHAN
        IKULONG NINYO
        AHAHAHA
        ANG INIT MO AH
        LIGO MO LANG YAN
        LI- BOG LANG YAN

        O KAYA, KAIN KA NA LANG NG AQUINORROYO BANANA SPLITS
        PITIFUL
        AHAHAHA

      • http://twitter.com/NinWalter Moonbuster

        pano paparusahan eh mismo ang vatican kumukukop sa mga nagkakasala. malamang kinupkop ka rin. haha.

      • disqus_WIkXYUshrh

        Tama ka. Kaya nga sinabi ni Pope Francis lately sa mga pari at preachers , “live what you preach”, dahil nakikita niya ang hypocrisy na ito sa mga algad niya.

      • http://twitter.com/NinWalter Moonbuster

        txtman, sana gumamit tatay mo ng condom nung ginawa ka.

      • pubringjuandelacruz

        they endorse politicians because they follow the teachings of Christ?!?!?!

        are you drunk?????

        we’re talking about philippines here not norway! politicians following the teaching of Christ!?!?! give me a break!

    • Noel

      Iba ang Simbahang Katolika sa INC. Sinusunod ng INC ang aral na pagkakaisa kahit sa pagboto ng mga kandidato hindi dahil gustong makialam dahil iyan ay doktrina nila. Pero ang Simbahang Katolika ay iba ang layunin. Gusto lang makialam at manggulo. Sa tutoo lang, ang Simbahang Katolika at mga ibang mga grupo ay humahanga at naiinggit sa INC sa kanilang pagkakaisa. Pilit ngang gayahin pero hindi nagtatagumpay. Iyan ang katotohanan.

      • mnlmad

        Yeah sure! Iglesia ng mga mangmang.

      • Noel

        Dati ang mga kaanib ay puro mahihirap, mga walang pinag-aralan at ayon sa iyo mga mangmang. Ngayon, maraming kaanib ang abogado, guro, doktor at iba’t ibang professionals. Pero ang pinag-uusapan dito ang pagkakaisa. Huwag mong ilayo ang usapan.

      • txtman

        PAGKAKAISANG BOMOTO?
        SINO NGAYON ANG MANGMANG DYAN?
        PALIBHASA IMMORAL FOUNDER NILA
        NAKABUNTIS NG DEKONESA
        KAYA PINALAYAS SA CHURCH OF CHRIST
        AT ANG KAPALMUKS NG FOUNDER NG INK HA
        TINAGALOG LANG NIYA ANG CHURCH OF CHRIST
        FOUNDER NG INK IMMORAL
        KAYA PINALAYAS NG CHURCH OF CHRIST
        CHECK NINYO SA CHURCH OF CHRIST
        PITIFUL

      • Noel

        Kung mangmang ang pakakaisa dahil sa pagsunod sa aral at utos ng Diyos ay di mangmang din ang mga 12 alagad ni Kristo na sumunod sa Kanya. Aral ng Diyos ang pagkakaisa kahit na sa pagboto. Utos ng Diyos na ang lahat ng Kanyang mga anak ay magkaisa sa isip, gawa, bautismo, pananampalatayo at paghatol. Komo ang pagboto ay isang paghatol, ang mga kaanib ay dapat din magkaisa.

      • boldyak

        hahaha…hinid kaya ikaw na INC ang naiinggit?..

      • Noel

        Hindi ako INC. Katoliko ako pero matagal na akong hindi nagsisimba dahil sa nasusuka ako sa mga naririnig ko at mga kahayupang ginagawa ng mga Pari. Pagpasok ko lang sa simbahan para magsimba ay parang pumasok ako sa palengke. Oo, naiiinggit ako sa INC. Kahanga-hanga ang kanilang pagkakaisa. Wala pa akong nababalitaang may nagpatayan INC kontra INC. Pero ang mga Katoliko araw-araw ay nag-aaway at nagpapatayan. Ang kapatiran ay utos din ng Diyos.

      • http://twitter.com/romza825 Row me oh!

        Nakakahiyang aminin na INC ka.

      • Noel

        Paano ko aaminin kung talagang hindi ako kaanib? Pero naanyayahan na ako ng ilang beses sa bible studies nila at magaganda naman ang mga aral. May ilang aral lang ako hindi sang-ayon. Mas nakakahiya ngang maging Katoliko ngayon. Hindi ko malaman kung ang Pari sa aming Parokya ay bading o manyakis.

      • txtman

        ANONG ARAL NILA?
        NA KAPAG HINDI KA MEMBER NILA
        PUPUNTA KA SA IMPIERNO?
        NA SILA LANG ANG MASASAVE?

        AHAHAHA
        ANO TAWAG MO DYAN?
        KULTO
        PALIBHASA FOUNDER NILA IMMORAL
        NAKABUNTIS NG DEKONESA
        KAYA PINALAYAS NG CHURCH OF CHRIST
        CHECK NINYO YAN SA CHURCH OF CHRIST
        PITIFUL

      • http://twitter.com/NinWalter Moonbuster

        ano din ang aral ng katoliko? pag gumamit ng condom, imorral na? haha.

      • Noel

        Alam mo ba na ang Simbahan Katolika ang pinakamalaki at pinakamatagal na Kulto sa kasaysayan? Ano ang Kulto? Iyon sumusunod sa Pinuno at nakakatanda? Ang alam ko walang aral ang INC na hindi ayon sa Banal na Kasulatan. Sa tutoo lang, ang Papa mo sa Roma, mga bolerong Pastor tulad ni Mike Velarde at ibang mga bulaang propeta ay gusto at pilit na ma-control ang mga kaanib at sundin ang kanilang mga pasya pero palaging di nagtatagumpay.

      • txtman

        WALA KA PANG NABABALITAN NAGPAPATAYAN NA INC?
        AHAHAHAHA
        KASI NGA SILA PUMAPATAY

        ALAM MO BA NA ANG FOUNDER NILA

        PINALAYAS SA CHURCH OF CHRIST
        KASI NAKABUNTIS NG DEKONESA
        DAHIL ISA SIYANG IMMORAL

        IMAGINE, IMMORAL FOUNDER NG INK?
        AHAHAHA
        SO, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT KUNG IMMORAL ANG FOUNDER?
        PITIFUL

      • Noel

        Ang punto ko ay di pumapatay ng kapwa kapatid. Kung pumapatay man ang mga INC ng mga iba, wala akong pakialam. Sana patayin ka rin nila. Tungkol naman kay Manalo, di ko kilala iyan. Tao din naman iyan na tulad ng Papa sa Roma. Ayon sa Biblia, lahat ay nagkasala maliban si Kristo.

      • txtman

        GANON?
        AHAHAHAHA
        EH, BAKIT KAYO NGAYON NAGAGALIT
        NGAYON GUSTO NG MGA KATOLIKO MAGKAISA?
        GAGAYAHIN LANG NAMAN NILA ANG INK?
        PITIFUL
        AHAHAHA

      • Noel

        Galit? Naaawa ako. Pilit magpapansin pero dedma ang mga tao kahit noon pa. Noon pa ang ingay na gustong magkaisa lalo na tuwing election pero palpak. Mismong mga lider ng simbahan di nagkakaisa paano magkakaisa? Tuwing may pasya, may bumabatikos na kapwa Obispo at Pari. Walang isang boses. Kung baga sa isang katawan ay kanya-kanya ang mga parte.

    • Lolek Pugeda

      What if your conscience tells you to obey the Church? What do you do then?

  • Ozamis7

    To our fellow Catholic believers, please vote wisely, huwag padicta kahit sino pa man.

    • catherine sien

      are you a catholic? then you should know that these guidelines are based on morally right principles. the good ABishop is not dictating. he is not even mentioning names of candidates.

      • JOHNCeneza

        Not dictating? Anu ba ginagawa nila?

      • boldyak

        teaching people to vote candidates with the right values…

      • reddfrog

        Right values? Perhaps they should lead by example first.

      • JOHNCeneza

        Teaching and forcing is two different things. The right to choose follows a teaching, while the forcing you will not have that choice.

      • boldyak

        nobody is being forced who to vote in RC…

      • disqus_WIkXYUshrh

        Kawawa ka naman.

      • catherine sien

        mas kawawa ka siguro…

      • batmanlaijai

        sa tingin ko … ikaw kawawa!

      • batmanlaijai

        baka anakan ka ni bishop o ni father… kaw rin!

  • quirinomayer

    The days are gone when this country was populated by docile and stupid indios who were subservient to the abusive friars. This attempt to resurrect the Padre Damasos of the dark period in Philippine history are doomed to fail because Filipinos may be a lot of things but they do not want to be dictated upon.

    I predict that like the original Mr. Condom Sen. Juan Flavier landed in No. 2 in 2001 after the CBCP mounted an all out campaign against him, they will end up with eggs in their faces after May 13.

    Never again to this country bowing slavishly to the friars!

    • regd

      The friars and clergys go to great lengths to con people. Then the people whose blind allegiance prevents them from seeing the obvious go to great lengths to keep serving them.

    • Michael Mallari

      Are you out of your mind.. you are leaving in 15th Century!!!!! WAKE UP…. what the catholic priest fighting for is for us to have the right values… HINDI YON SUNUD SUNURAN SA TAWAG NG LAMAN!!!

      • panhase

        Well, the Catholic Church has been in the Philippines since the 15th century, don´t you think they had more than enough time to teach the “right values”, whatever that means?

      • boldyak

        they have taught the right values, only that there are still people like you who tempt these people…choosing tyhe right value is more on sacrifice, sacrifice on material and worldly happiness…it is very easy to lose one’s values dahil sa tawag ng laman…binababa ng tao ang kanyang moralidad to justify what he does to satisfy his pleasures…kung ang nagustuhan mong babae may asawa, sasabihin mo na okay lang yon, dahil modern times na…hahaha..what a pity…keep on justifying a wrong act…

      • reddfrog

        You should tell that to your altar boys-loving clergymen.

      • boldyak

        hahaha….naging altar boy ka ba at naranasan mo?

      • maj0_rimbaud

        pahinramin kita ng intro to logic, tol.

      • boldyak

        bwahahaha….yon lang?

      • http://twitter.com/NinWalter Moonbuster

        taught the right values? lol. sa tagal-tagal na ng katolismo sa pilipinas, dapat ngayon santo na ang mga pilipino.

        just admit it that these “in persona christi” failed on what they do.

      • marionics

        tawag ng laman…aaaaah ang sarap nun he he

      • maj0_rimbaud

        The Catholic Church has not changed and I do not see it changing in the coming years. But we, the Filipinos, are changing. And we are now more open about challenging the church. We are now much more comfortable using social media to talk about – and express our anger at — priests and members of the clergy who prey on little boys and collect ivory Santo Nios. We now have websites such as Freethinkers, No to CBCP, Catholics for RH, and Purple Voter. And, we all got the RH bill passed to law. – Marilen J. Danguilan

    • catherine sien

      maybe it is the other way around? wow — you must be perfect mr. quirinomayer? wait and see po.

    • reddfrog

      Hate to say it but there are still enough docile and stupid indios in this country to negate and surpass the vote of the more enlightened.

      • boldyak

        awwww..enlightened?….bwahahaha….

    • Lolek Pugeda

      Is it me or are you just reposting the same post over and over?

  • pinoysadubai

    nakakadismaya indeed…so meaning kahit yung mga kurakot at magnanakaw dahil lang anti-RH e susuportahan nyo na? tapos nagtatanong kayo bakit andaming tumitiwalag sa katolisismo?

    • boldyak

      kayo lang naman nagtatanong…dahil alam namin kung bakit…

  • lolo_Jose

    AHHH basta ako iboboto ko ang mga kandidatong sa tingin ko makakatulong sa masa at
    maiaangat ang buhay ng nakakarami at HINDI DAHIL SA DIKTA NG MGA PARING MAPAKIALAM SA POLITIKA!!!

    • litobetita

      Hindi pa sila pinanganganak kaya wag ka muna bumoto…..

  • $14523613

    I will only vote for Teddy Casiño. PERIOD!!!

    • juanpedro de jose

      addict!.. wala ka sa topic…

  • echo

    Dont live anymore in a Spanish Era..where Padre Damaso tells you what to do coz they think you are an indio..mangmang at walang karapatan na magdesisyon at magisip..Malaya ka na..vote for your rights and for your conscience.VOTE WISELY.

    • Facilitator1

      Korek ka kabayan…

      VOTING WISELY means: granted madalang na lang ang PERFECT CANDIDATE (job qualified and HONEST) pero kung parehong CORRUPT choose the less evil (CORRUPT). But please VOTE–kung hindi (dahil disappointed ka) baka manalo ang MAS CORRUPT kasi baka mas maraming alipores ang MOKONG…PEACE

      • boldyak

        voting a lesser evil is still voting an evil…

      • Facilitator1

        Korek. Voting for LESSER evil is still evil BUT…

        The lesser evil is much better than PURE (more) evil. Lalu na kung dalawa lang ang mga candidates for the political position (e.g. MAYOR, Vice, etc.).

        If you don’t vote for whatever your personal reasons (protest/disgust against a corrupt system, etc) are–e kung manalo ang PURE EVIL (mas corrupt) e di mas kawawa ang bayan ni Juan dela Cruz.

        Kabayan, sometimes wala kang choice or option…you just have to make do or vote wisely. May kasabihan, “Damned if you do, damned if you don’t” –SWAK na SWAK sa atin ito–at ito ata ang karma ng mga PINOY. PEACE

      • reddfrog

        Choosing between Emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader: Choose Darth Vader, he still can be turned.

      • maj0_rimbaud

        kumusta naman yung mga ivory traders na mga pari nyo at mga pedophiles?

      • boldyak

        bwahahaha…ipakulong nyo ang may sala….kamusta na ang pamilya ng pastor mo?….siguro mansion na ang bahay sa perang obligado kayong magbayad….wahahahaha

  • Marx Louis Wang

    To voters: Learn more what the bill says. Ang alam ko sa bill ay pamamaraan na pag-aralang mabuti kung ang pagdagdag ng anak o pagkakaroon ng isa makakabuti sa pagiging responsable ng mga magulang. KUNG HIRAP NA KAYO SA ISA, KAILANGAN PA BA GAWING DALAWA?

    • Michael Mallari

      Dont VOTE who sponsor the RH Bill… Dont vote fot the Anti-Poor additional 2 years for students…. Dont vote who pushed for the SIN TAX Bill… puros pahirap para sa mahihirap ang mga bill na ito !!!!!

      • marionics

        buti pa don’t vote period hahahhaha

      • maj0_rimbaud

        you can vote maski may period ka so go lang. LOL. @facebook-100001914657639:disqus confused ka yata sa mga issues mo.

      • reddfrog

        Siguro may period si Louie kaya wala sa tamang pag-iisip.

      • marionics

        you can but you shouldn’t he he

      • Veril

        i disagree. should our laws always be “pro-poor”? the poor are not the only citizens in the country. i ask that you try to read and understand these laws you wish to make so little of. they have their merits and faults. but i see no reason for it to be removed.

      • disqus_WIkXYUshrh

        Kaya nga dumarami mga anak ng mga pari ay ayaw gumamit ng condom. Di raw masarap pag may condom.

      • josh_alexei

        how about do not vote for the alleged murder, rapist and wife beaters and known corrupt…and here is a good one for you, this case almost put the Catholic diocese into Bankruptcy when the courts ruled against it in civil cases and awarded the victims of sexual abuse for exemplary damages..the Church has to sell many of its holdings and assets and for now its personnel are behaving well so far…

        here’s a good one for you!

        Quotations:

        “I saw many young children beaten up and strapped. I saw Brother — wake up young children and take them to a room to sexually assault them. I saw children handcuffed to a pillar in the basement. They would be pushed and kicked. I saw Brother — use a pool table stick to hit children if they would not have anal sex with him. Children were given cold showers then strapped. If I told any Brothers that another Brother tried to have sex with me, I would be strapped.” From a report on abuse at St. Joseph’s and St. John’s Training School for Boys.

        ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee? ‘ Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Amen I say to you, as long as you did not do it for one of these least ones, you did not do it for me.’ ” A description of Jesus’ “final judgement” of the people of all nations and religions, found in Matthew 25:31-51 in the Christian Scriptures (New Testament).

        Overview:

        Reports of child sexual abuse by Canadian Roman Catholic clergy, Brothers, and church employees appear to have peaked in the 1990s. They have since declined. “The wave of cases now hitting U.S. courts…has already crested” in Canada. Reverend William Kokesch, director of communications services for the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops said in 2002-MAR: “What the church in the U.S. is now going through, we faced about 10 years ago.” 3 It seems that Canadian dioceses recognized the magnitude of abuse sooner than their American counterparts. Most have abandoned earlier policies of denial and cover-up, and have developed programs to handle any new allegations openly and with fairness to the victims.

    • boldyak

      giving condoms make people more irresponsible…teach people to be responsible and not by giving condoms, how can you be responsible kung pati sa kalibugan mo iba pa ang gagastos….

      • Crazy_horse101010

        never has worked yet in how many hundred years in case you havent heard the philippines is one of the world k leaders in teen age pregnancies so who is teaching them i live among the poor and everywhere is 13 and 14 year old girls with babies they are without a man in their lives and had to leave school my daughter is 14 and some of her classmates are now gone trying to take care of a baby so who is going to teach them

      • litobetita

        It is the failure of the family / parents. They should have brought up their children with good moral values. Is the RH bill the answer to this problem? Ganun na lang, ituro ang pag gamit ng contraceptives instead of teaching them moral values?

      • LAMBFORGOVERNOR

        Good Morals. Catholicism endorses lying, cheating and stealing and then wants you to think that through confession God forgives. Do Not Believe This Lie. God does not forgive you for merely admitting that you are a liar, cheat and a thief. It is only the devil disguised as a priest who is forgiving you.

      • litobetita

        Eh bakit ikaw di naman katoliko pero liar. Meron ba dito na tinuruan ng simbahan para magsinungaling gaya ng sinasabi mo? Ako 44 years na akong catholic pero di ko naranasan yan. Ang mga anak ko nasa catholic schools pero wala naman gaya ng sinasabi mo. Kung ikukumpara nga sa mga batang nag-aaral sa public school eh ang laki ng difference kahit sa kilos at pananalita pa lang. Alam kong case to case basis din ang upbringing ng mga bata pero iba yung may tamang guidance at maayos na environment. So wag mo naman masyadong gawing “over” yang imagination mo about catholic church…masyado ka kasi nanunuod ng mga movie eh kaya tuloy akala mo na totoo na yung mga nakita mo lalo na sa “godfather”.

      • LAMBFORGOVERNOR

        Migawa a masa lalta maka alkda, hehe. Shaist asist awai. Nwoslwlki jajamao hayuslang aka wa ti ne jajaja…

      • http://twitter.com/NinWalter Moonbuster

        if you have an open mind, you’d see clearly that it’s the catholic church’s job on teaching morality and whatnot. come to think of it, if they had been effective teaching strong good moral values, do you think there will be teen pregnancies?

      • AntiAko

        So ano ang plano mong gawin sa mga taong nag-eengage sa premarital sex? Patayin dahil hindi maganda ang kanilang “moral values”? O pagdusahin sa pagiging batang ina at wasakin ang kanilang kinabukasan?

      • txtman

        PSSSST!!!
        MAY LIBRE AKONG CLASS

        EXCLUSIVELY FOR YOUR ANAK NA DALAGA & APO
        HOW TO ENJOY PRE-MARITAL SEX
        MAY FREE DEMO ON HOW TO USE CONDOM
        WITH RETURN DEMO PA
        WE NEED TO PROTECT THEM
        HIRAP NA BAKA MABUNTIS SILA
        THEY DESERVE TO BE HAPPY

        I WILL BE WAITING HA
        AHIHIHIHIHI

        PITIFUL

      • http://twitter.com/NinWalter Moonbuster

        yan ba ang “natutunan” mo sa katoliko? kung sa bagay yan ata natutunan mo kay pader. libreng class sa rectory or rectumry. haha

      • AntiAko

        Huwag kang magbubulag-bulagan. Kahit ayaw mo mang aminin, IT IS A REALITY that many people DO ENGAGE IN PREMARITAL SEX. And it is THEIR CHOICE to do that. I cannot do anything about it. You cannot do anything about it. However, something can be done to protect them from the unintended consequences of their decisions and that is through sex education.

        Accept the reality that: (1) engaging in sex is a personal decision (2) people do engage in premarital sex even with your protestations (3) teaching sex education and the consequences of premarital sex will not make maniacs out of young people, on the contrary it should teach them refrain (4) the concept of enjoying pre-marital sex is more attributable to media which portrays it as such (4) for people who are active, the best protection is knowledge and the availability of contraceptives.

        Now get over it!

      • litobetita

        Wow galing ng sagot mo? Very extreme ha. Ikaw nga sumagot sa tanong mo. Dapat ba silang patayin o pagdusahin? Wasakin ang kinabukasan? Hindi pa ba wasak? Whether you like it or not, the Filipino culture is very diffrent….may modern na kuno pero I don’t believe so. If your wife is not a virgin anymore when you married her, di ba magiging problem ito later lalo na pag nagsimula na kayo mag-away? Eh lalo na kung may anak pa. So difinitely sa batang pagiging ina eh sira na kinabukasan nya. The best thing to do is the family to do their duties….alagaan sa pangagaral ang mga anak nila para di dumami at maging rampant ang ganitong problema. At yan naman ang pangunahing katangian ng kultura natin eh yung close family ties, bakit kailangan na baguhin kung tama naman. Guide your children to the right way of life.

      • AntiAko

        Whether you like it or not, the Filipino culture is very different, indeed. People are still IN DENIAL that Filipinas nowadays are very liberated. Kaya isip nila ang mga Filipinas hindi nag-eengage in premarital sex. Wake up and see the reality! Young people DO engage in sex. A lot of girls are not virgins anymore when they get married. Kung sa kaso mo problema yan, eh ano magagawa mo pag nakapag asawa ka ng hindi birhen? Hahalungkatin mo ang kanyang nakaraan everytime mag-aaway kayo? Kung mahal mo isang tao, kakalimutan mo nakaraan niya.

        Knowing that women engage in sex, what should then be done? Eh di ba mas magandang turuan sila about the consequences of their actions and how they can protect themselves from these consequences? Attack the problem head-on and do not live in constant denial.

        In the meantime, the Church/family can teach the parishioners/children right values on chastity all they want. Obviously, it is still up to the individual to make the decisions. And the hard truth is that many people disobey the Church/family and engage in sex. Live with that.

      • litobetita

        okey. kung tanggap mo yang ganyan eh di bahala ka. Wag mo na lang ako idamay kasi di okey sa akin yan.

      • AntiAko

        Alam mo, that is the right attitude. Ultimately, you are responsible for yourself and not for other people. That should extend to the debate on the RH Law. If you do not like to use contraceptives then go ahead, do not use them. But there is no reason for you to impose your views on other people and prevent them from using contraceptives if they want or need because that would be as wrong as when they also impose their views on you and force you to use one.

        In a democracy, you decide for yourself and you do not decide or make choices for others. I hope the Catholic leaders realize that.

      • JOHNCeneza

        Ive seen GMAnews documentaries on RH sa Thailand. People their have improved their lives due to correct family planning and free checkup on pregnant women.

      • litobetita

        Iba ang culture ng Thailand sa atin. Sa kanila ang babae pwede pang mag asawa at may tatanggap pa kahit lima na ang anak sa pagkadalaga. Very modern sila……sa atin ba may tatnaggap pa ng maayos kung ang babae eh dalagang ina? Very rare case yun! Kita mo nga ang mga lalaki dun eh supot……sa atin pag supot ka di ka din tatanggapin ng mga girls at pagtatawanan ka pa kahit ng kapwa mo lalaki. So malaki ang difference ng culture natin sa kanila kaya di dapat ma compare.

      • JOHNCeneza

        What I said is “FAMILY” planning, not about pregnancy before or outside marraige (legal or common). but family planning within marraige (legal or common). A well planned child birth within the family will improved their financial standing within the community. Did i mention pre-marital pregnancy? I agree that pre-marital sex should be discouraged/forbidden, with guys found guilty be serverely punished physically like canning in singapore.

      • litobetita

        Good explanation. Family planning does not necessarily mean contraception or abortion right? You can plan your family without resorting to those kind of things.

      • JOHNCeneza

        Well those who advocate natural planning method should do more to convince everyone that natural planning method works and to show that the other methods are no longer needed. Its not enough to just insist on a method and let others do the implementation. Everybody should be actively participate for anything to succeed. For me sex outside marraige is wrong and so is abortion. but i strongly believe that we should convince our fellow men/women to concieve children only that they can afford to feed, cloth, educate and provide a happy home.

      • litobetita

        You are right. All the government and the people need is to be responsible. And in order to do that, we should give proper education to the people. Induce more money on education and then the people will have open mindedness, be educated and then they will learn that sex is not just for pleasure….that having a wife and children is a big responsibility. The problem with us Filipinos is that we always want short cut. Education first to alleviate the lives of the people. Ang daming pwedeng pagkunan ng pondo….sabi nga nila gumaganda ang economic situation at ang laki ng dollar reserve, on the other side naman naghihirap mga pinoy….ano ba talaga ang totoo? Pero ang laking pera ang nawawala sa mga ghost project ng government at pork barrel ng mga congressman at senador? Di ba nati pwede magamit yun sa mga program ng government para sa mahihirap? Yung serious na program?

      • boldyak

        ahhh…kaya bigyan mo na lang condoms?….at hayaan ang kanilang mababang moralidad and values in life?…nice try..

      • jessica chan

        you’re a self-righteous lunatic. trust me, it takes 1 (me) to know another (yes that’s you)

      • reddfrog

        Tell that to your Catholic Church leaders. But obviously they are not so good at leading by example.

      • boldyak

        commet from a non-catholic, whose purpose in life is to discredit RC

      • jessica chan

        “commet” – get your spelling right before you comment. your IQ is clearly borderline idiotic

      • maj0_rimbaud

        tol, may subject ka bang logic 101? kung wala naku lugi ka sa tuition fee mo, ayan tuloy mga pinagsasabi mo.

      • Noel

        Aba, ang unang makikinabang diyan ang mga manyakis na Pari para hindi nila mabuntisan ang kanilang mga babae at mga dyowa na hindi magka-AIDS.
        Alam mo ba na maraming Pari ang lihim na sumusuporta sa Bill?

      • boldyak

        bwahahaha…ang babaw mo dre…

      • Noel

        Sinong mababaw at nasa ibabaw? Di ba ang mga babae ng mga Pari ?

      • LAMBFORGOVERNOR

        only ignorant people think this way..

      • AntiAko

        At sino ba nagbigay sa inyo ng karapatan na pakialam ang buhay ng ibang tao? Kung gusto ng ibang mag pre-marital sex, may karapatan ka bang pigilan sila? Kung may mangangailangan ng condom at pills dahil gusto nilang hindi magbuntis o hindi muna magbuntis, may karapatan ka bang pigilan sila?

        Kung pinapakain mo sila, may karapatan ka. Pero buhay nila yon. Wag kang pakialamero dahil bali-baliktarin mo man ang mundo, WALA KANG KARAPATANG MAGDESISYON PARA SA IBANG TAO.

    • Noel

      Kasi gusto nila dalawa ang maghirap.

    • txtman

      AHHHH
      SO, ANG RESPONSIBLE PALA SA IYO IS SEX NG SEX
      MGA BATA NA PALA NGAYON ANG DAHILAN KUNG BAKIT MAY MAHIRAP?
      KAYA PALA WALANG TRABAHO
      KAYA PALA MADAMING CORRUPT SA GOVERNMENT
      KAYA PALA MABABA ANG SWELDO
      KAYA PALA WALANG PRICE MGA PRODUCTS NG FARMERS
      KAYA PALA MATATAAS ANG BILIHIN
      KAYA PALA MAY BATUGAN
      KAYA PALA MAHAL ANG KORYENTE

      KASALAN PALA NG MGA BATA…
      INENG, DAPAT GAWIN MO
      IPAGBAWAL NA ANG MGA BATA
      MAG-ALA HERODES KA KAYA?
      PITIFUL
      AHAHAHA

  • TwiggyRamirez

    He added: “We advise you not to vote for the candidate if the candidate cannot declare a categorical and clear ‘no’ to divorce, abortion, euthanasia, total birth control and homosexual marriages or death issues.”

    …very disappointing. another reason for me not to attend mass and just pray, in my own time, for these damasos to be enlightened someday.

    • catherine sien

      you speak of non attendance at mass then you must know catholic teachings and yet sadly you do not abide by it. then you are not a catholic or at least you say you are but you really are not….

      • batmanlaijai

        Non-sense!

  • johnlagrimas

    A Catholic conscience must be consistent with the Church’s conscience. The bishops are not dictating but are only faithful to their mandate/mission as shepherds of the Church.

    To my fellow Catholics, let us listen and follow the counsel of our beloved bishops. They have no other interest but our welfare, the welfare of Filipino families and the whole country.

    We shun and reject these candidates: Hontiveros, Legarda, Cayetano, Escudero, Angara, Enrile, Casino.

    • maj0_rimbaud

      dude, pakisabi nga ng church conscience mo na parusahan nila ang mga pedophile and ivory trader among their ranks. napaka-irrelevant na talaga ng simbahang ito, better stick to what you are good at – organizing bingo.

      • catherine sien

        you seem to have nothing else to say but of pedophiles and child molesters. kawawa naman po kayo, wala na kayong masabi pang iba.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        i do because i knew some of the victims they were american indians of whom 500 sued and got 197 million dollars what happened to them was horrible and they were abused by both priests and nuns. some are scared for life. they wont get any money because the rich churches have crooked lawyers that hide their money in overseas accounts or dummy accounts then filing bankruptcy this was exposed by dan rather and the news. indians and the deaf were the most abused

      • Crazy_horse101010

        whoops scarred. llok up nuns abusing children on the internet there is pages of them and they have had some big lawsuits against them also

      • juanpedro de jose

        Ikaw ang kawawa naastang makadyos pero kunsintidor sa mga demonyong pari kaya kasama ka narin sa mga demonyo mong amo… lol!..

    • panhase

      “No other interest but our welfare, the welfare of Filipino families and the whole country”?
      Can it be that you are living in a different country? No other interest, everybody who has ears and eyes can find out what are their interests.

      • catherine sien

        thank you john lagrimas. yes, we listen to our good bishops. let all these people reacting against him and what he said speak as much as they can. the truth will out.

    • magsasakasanayon

      beloved bishops? those who think that molesting a child and raping your own daughter are forgivable but using a condom is not? no, thanks, a$$hole. wag mo na kaming idamay sa kabobohan mo.

      • Platypus09

        Those cases are very few, in comparison to thousands and thousands of good Catholic priests around the world.

        These cases are being magnified by media, as if these abusive priests represent the entire Catholic church.

        That is not the case.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        300000 thousand children a few even the church admits thousands of priests involved and for ever one who came forward there are many more that havent because of suicides insanity married or ashamed 3 billion dollars and climbing in law suits another 10 million last week in california is a few

  • Gloria Wheelchairroyo

    Kalokohan talaga mga pare, wag daw iboto mga ProRH at iboto mga Anti-RH kahit na sila ay mga kurakot, kriminal, adulterer, immoral, murderer at masasamang tao.
    Dapat di lang RH bill ang pagbasihan ng boto ng mga pareng Bobo dahil masmatinde ang karakter at moralidad ng mga kandidato.

    • Platypus09

      Kalokohan or branding names or being judgmental is subjective.

      They can say similar things to anyone if they want to.

    • catherine sien

      ay…hindi nga po pala kayo bobo, mga pare lang.

      • juanpedro de jose

        nagsalita ang matalino! lol!…

  • brunogiordano

    “The document also urges Catholics to shun candidates who are “antagonistic to church teachings and practices”, philanderers, drug dealers, and those who destroy the environment, buy votes or engage in terrorism.”

    Maliban sa mga “antagonistic to church teachings and practices” alam ng lahat na kapanalig ng mga obispong DAMASO ang mga plunderers, at corrupt na tao na nagbibigay ng mga MAMAHALIN regalo sa kanila.

    He added: “We advise you not to vote for the candidate if the candidate cannot declare a categorical and clear ‘no’ to divorce, abortion, euthanasia, total birth control and homosexual marriages or death issues.”

    Iyan ay MORALIDAD na 200 years behind na. Karamihan ng mga katoliko na may PROGRESSIVE/LIBERAL na pananaw ay sangayon sa divorce, contraceptives, at same sex marriage dahil ito ay sang ayon sa HUMAN RIGHTS.

    • Michael Mallari

      Human Right ??? what is human percieved right ??? animals have right to….butg we are human and we are bound to certain moralities.. di porket gusto natin..;.. puede na……. say that again when you face your creator.. when we are thrown into hell…. dito natin itanong… saan ang human right ?????
      Simple lang.. RH bill would not do good for generation to come…. lalung bababa ang moralidad ng mga pinoy…tsk.. buti pa nuon panahon ni Marcos.. may respeto sa mga pinoy ang mundo….ngayon.. tila basahan na tayo… at mga babae natin, ang baba ng tingin ng mundo ???? bakit ???? kasi po.. wala na tayong good moral values…. dagdag pa itong RH Bill na ito…. tsk.. =(

      • Crazy_horse101010

        so the rest of the world is wrong and only the phippines is right why is there only rich catholic country in the world whos people have the highest standard of living in the world. tne vatican doesnt make anything or grow anything but the people live like kings because they shear their flock the poor why does rh work every where else but wont work here why do millions of catholic women take birth control think they are going to hell while child raping priests go to heaven. if the church wasnt making money off of people you wouldnt hear a peep out of them on birth control. moral value for a church that aids and abets baby rapers and say it isnt a crime but a sin . .

      • boldyak

        wala naman problema kung magbirthcontrol ka, pero sponsored by and financed by the government is wrong….bakit ako magababayad sa kalibugan na hindi macontrol ng ibang tao?…bakit hindi turuan na maging responsable ang tao, kesa bigyan mo ng condoms..after th RH bill, divorce, then same sex marriages…saan patungo ang society sa ganyan?…free for all?…we are becoming like animals and do what they want to do…sa katoliko, kung mag-abuloy ka o hindi walang problema…ang nagbibigay hindi naman umaangal bakit kayo na hindi katoliko aang umaangal?…hahaha

      • josh_alexei

        I Think you are arguing it the other way…really…try the opposite argument and you will sound convincing…as you will as well know until now there is no such thing as RH bill in the Phl as of yet and you are arguing that the Filipino morality is low…now now if there is an RH bill it can only enhance the morality since all other countries with better morality than the Filipinos had already some form of RH bill..actually in my part of the world, there is no longer any Restriction when it comes to consenting adults…morning after pills, contraceptives, abortion on demand, tax funded or state funded, no restriction at all, and by gosh and by golly statistics shows that since, all sins related to Sex had declined, including hypocrisy…

      • http://www.facebook.com/ellebullo Ellee R. Bullo

        bakit galing ka na ba sa impyerno at bumaba sa lupa ng masabi mo na itatapon tayo sa impyerno at dun na magtatanung? naranasan mo na bang matapon sa impyerno at nakapag tanung ka na? para malaman namin kung alin ang mali ang human rights or ang paniniwala mo?..

      • litobetita

        Ang labo mo naman? Basahin mo ang sentence nya at makikita mo na puro future tense gamit nya. Bakit mo tinatanong kung nakarating na sya sa hell? Di mo ba kayang distinguish ang future or past tense o ayaw mo lang para maka create ka ng argument?

      • magsasakasanayon

        your head is so wrong in so many places. puwede na palang mag-internet ang mga pasyente sa mental hospital. LOL

    • ApoLapullapu

      Many wrongs have been committed in the name of Human Rights.

    • boldyak

      what is the morality of today?…same sex marriages, pre-marital sex?..kung alam mo na nag anak mo nakikipag sex sa kung kanino na magustuihan nya, okay lang sa iyo?

      • litobetita

        Tama ka. At lalong masama kung lalaki ang anak tapos ang ka sex lalaki din di ba? No problem naman daw dahil libre ang condom…hahaha.

    • litobetita

      Dapat bang may mabago when it comes to morality especially if from good to worst? What is wrong with our moral values 200 years ago?

  • Facilitator1

    Sino kaya ang mas MATIMBANG: a PRO-CHOICE but an honest candidate o ANTI-RH candidate but corrupt? Palagay ko alam ko ang sagot nyo pero hindi ako sigurado sa magiging sagot ng RCC.

    NOTE: If, others consider selling ILLEGAL DRUGS as VIOLENT CRIME, then using the same logic, I consider GRAFT and CORRUPTION as ANTI-LIFE due to this behavior/conduct steals MONEY dedicated for the POOR and HUNGRY.

  • brunogiordano

    “Catholic Church: Shun pro-choice candidates”

    Malalaman natin kung susundin iyan ng mga PROGRESSIVE/LIBERAL Catholics na mga PRO-CHOICE na bumubuo ng 80 per cent na sangayon sa RH LAW sa May election.

    • catherine sien

      wow! galing naman po ninyo. alam ninyo na 80 per cent ang sumasangayon sa RH Law? wrong! a catholic is a catholic — there are no progressive/liberals. you cannot be a catholic and be pro choice. obvious po di ba?

      • JOHNCeneza

        you cannot be a catholic and be pro choice if you live in the dark ages

      • catherine sien

        ay! wrong logic po. being a catholic and being pro-choice is mutually exclusive. one contradicts the other.

      • panhase

        Ganun ba? I am really sorry for you that you will never experience what it means to have a choice.
        You do believe in God, but you still believe that he did not give free will to humans in order for them to make a choice? I pity you.

      • catherine sien

        hmmm, maybe you should pity yourself. there is always a choice — a moral choice.

      • JOHNCeneza

        Then let each individual make that choice on his/her own not by threatening lawmakers for his/her choice.

      • catherine sien

        who is threatening? these are guidelines, moral guidelines. you are still free to vote who you want to vote for.

      • JOHNCeneza

        In making guidelines: the church leaders would just inform him/her on what is right and what is wrong. Whatsoever their vote, they shall respect that vote, not by declaring war against them in the election.
        In threatening: the church leaders said vote for this or else we will be against you.
        Gets mo na difference? You are still free to vote, but what happen after you make your vote will define whether the church leaders is doing one or the other. The Church leaders did the latter so that is what I call threatening.

        After the RH bill was passed, the church leaders should have stayed out of politics and minister to their faithful inside the church on the pros and cons of RH, and let the faithful decide on their own whether to follow or not. That is what free choice is all about.

      • panhase

        Do you mean the (or a) choice is moral in itself or do you mean a choice about morality or moral principles?

      • maj0_rimbaud

        kawawa ka naman. being a catholic doens’t mean stupidity.

      • JOHNCeneza

        Mutually exclusive in the dark ages else will be in trouble with the holy inquisition.

      • catherine sien

        oooops, maybe you don’t understand po the term ‘mutually exclusive”?

      • JOHNCeneza

        I do understand mutually exclusive just fine.. My point is that you can be a catholic and have free choice, unless you are living at the age of the inquisition where the church burn allege “heretics” at the stake.

      • JOHNCeneza

        I understand mutually exclusive quite well. My point is that being a catholic and having a choice can be mutually inclusive. Gone were the days where the church leaders withheld the scientific advancement of humanity by threatening advance thinkers like galileo to retract their finding else they will be excummunicated and burn at the stake. Gone were the days where church leaders said that the sun, the moon and the stars revolves around the earth. Gone were the days where church goers doesn’t understand the teaching of the church because its mass is in latin which most filipinos doesn’t understand.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        the rest of the world doesnt agree with you go ask them

      • catherine sien

        i don’t have to ask. it is obvious as i said. have you asked the rest of the world. now, how do you that po?

      • maj0_rimbaud

        meaning catholics cannot have choices? lakas na tama mo ah.

  • sk3tk

    SELECTIVE REASONING PALAGI ANG CHURCH, PAG PABOR SA KANILA, KESYO KARAPATAN DAW NILA UN, PAG NDE PABOR KESYO HIWALAY DAW ANG SIMBAHAN. PWEEEEEEEHHHHH….

  • http://twitter.com/brixvillapando brix villapando

    Bumanat na naman ang mga Damasong pulpol…..ginagawang robot ang mga tao

  • padre_damaso

    why should one even listen to someone who wears such a ridiculous hat.

    • tarikan

      In Mexico they call it a ten gallon hat.

    • catherine sien

      in the same vein, why should anyone listen to you?

      • padre_damaso

        simply because I am not delusional. and I dont wear such a silly pointed hat.

      • kumilos_tayo

        Siguro mayaman ka Catherine tutal extreme follower ka ng Pari eh di ikaw ang bumuhay dun sa mga mahihirap na sobrang daming anak nahalos di na nila mapakain at nangangamatay sa gutom at talagang namamatay sila hindi lang sa gutom dahil din sa sakit kasi di nila pamagamot sarili nila at anak nila dahil pera. Yan ba ang sinasabi mong PRO life…

      • catherine sien

        hindi po mayaman. pero nag iisip po at may konsyensiya at sumusunod sa utos ng Diyos. kung kinakailangan tutulong po sa mahihirap. pwede po namang turuan ang iba sa dapat gawin. hindi po naman sinasabi na mag anak at mag anak kaya lang po ang pagtulong ay dapat ang funds ibibigay para sa mahihirap at hindi para sa mga condoms, pills na nakaka cause ng cancer at iba pa.

      • juanpedro de jose

        iiyak na yan!..lol!…

      • catherine sien

        baka po kayo ang kailangang umiyak sa baluktod na mga isip at salita ninyo. kawawa naman po kayo.

    • Lolek Pugeda

      Why should we listen to the indigenous people when they wear such ridiculous clothing?

    • Lolek Pugeda

      Why should we listen to the indigenous people when they wear such ridiculous clothing?

      • padre_damaso

        since when did the bishop become indigenous?

      • Lolek Pugeda

        You did not get the point. Why dismiss a persons remarks based on clothing, etc?

      • padre_damaso

        if someone in a barney costume comes to you and claims to have a higher moral ground, ie. has a hotline to santa claus, and commands you to do as he pleases, that person’s a waste of time. first of all, santa’s not real, second, that’s a ridiculous costume.

    • ARIKUTIK

      Because Panot is not worthy to wear even baseball cap. She’s in fear to loose her feminine heart …… nya …… hahaha………….

  • brunogiordano

    Ito ang isang dahilan kung bakit nakakaligtaan ng mga DAMASOng PARI at OBISPO ang pagtulong sa mahihirap,

    POLITICA lang ang binibigyan pansin sa buong taon.

    Hanggang gayon wala tayong naririnig na Plano sa kanila na tularan ang bagong POPE maliban kay TAGLE na bubulong bulong lang na susunod sa nais ng bagong POPE.

  • Qwxyz

    ah basta Team P-Noy pa rin ang iboboto ko.

    Vote straight Team P-Noy!!!

  • NAGMAMARUNONG

    ANO ANG PARUSA KUNG HINDI SUNDIN ANG UTOS?

  • Twister12

    What he meant to say is vote for all the corrupts.

  • tarikan

    We wait until the results of May 13th elections are out. If & when the majority of winning senators were pro-choice, I’d think the Church wasn’t heard by her God/Lord/Bathala/Panginoon. Time to close shop maybe? Not being relevant anymore?

  • BURADOR

    CATHOLIC CLERGIES INTERFERANCE in Philippine POLITICS will NOT HELP their DAMASSO IMAGE to Pilipino people, —–INSTEAD of SPIRITUAL GUIDANCE the Philippine DAMASSOS are NOW ENGAGING in INTERVENTION on POLITICS that is very dangerous—–This DAMASSO method WAS the REASON—WHY many in EUROPE became PROTESTANT—

    • Crazy_horse101010

      they did a poll on why people were bailing out number one was child abuse then against womens rights attacking the gays even though 40 percent of priests are gay anti birth control anti divorce boring sermons and still living in the dark ages, this poll was in the west

  • Jomex

    The Catholic Church is now desperate. This is a lesson for everyone never to allow religious doctrines as a basis for lawmaking. Religious doctrines are innately divisive in a democratic society.

    • Platypus09

      The Church is not desperate. It has still millions and millions of followers, even if the bloogers here think it is losing grips. That is not true.

      • kumilos_tayo

        following the a good moral came from God hindi nawawala yun pero follow the word of PADRE DAMASO yun nawawala yun.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        depends on what part of the world you live in in the west they are losing even in latin america where ever there is poor that can be used they are holding there ground like africa

      • juanpedro de jose

        kawawa ka naman wala ka ng kakampi… lol

    • catherine sien

      on the other hand those who do not believe in the Church’s teachings are desperate. the candidates who voted for the RH bill are trembling in fear now.

      • panhase

        ehhh, are you joking or are you serious?

      • catherine sien

        serious. just read the press releases against the Church. look at the commissioned surveys saying there are now diminishing Catholics (all false). see how candidates are now saying they are anti RH. wait and see how things will be.

      • juanpedro de jose

        nakadrugs kapa yata… maghilamos ka muna para matauhan ka… lol

      • catherine sien

        baka po kayo ang nakadrugs. no sense, no logic. just people who know nothing about morality.

      • maj0_rimbaud

        haha, you forgot your meds?

      • catherine sien

        maybe…but you may have forgotten your brains.

    • JOHNCeneza

      That is why in the US they are very strict in the implementation of the doctrine of separation of the church and state. The founding fathers of the US have seen the wars and chaos in Europe due to the church meddling in the state’s affairs, that is why the Separation of the church and the state was enshrine in their constitution.
      Unfortunately in the Philippines, we did copy the US’s constitution, but have no political will to strictly enforce the constitution.

    • marionics

      here’s something that might cheer you up-

      A little boy is standing on top of a cliff, looking down at the sea and crying his eyes out. A priest approaches and says, “My child, why are you so upset?”

      The little boy turns to him and says, “My mummy and daddy were in their car — and it just rolled over the cliff and smashed on the rocks down there.”

      The priest slowly looks around him while unbuttoning his cassock and says, “It’s just not your day, is it?”

      • litobetita

        Paano naman nakaka “cheer” yang storya mo? Kung anu-anong kathang isip pumapasok sa utak nyo. Maano ngang magtrabaho na lang kayo or find something else worthwhile.

      • reddfrog

        I’m entertained. It’s a proven fact that “Humor ability reveals intelligence, predicts mating success, and is higher in males”. I am sorry if you’re on “the other side”.

      • marionics

        cheers he he

  • just_anotherperson

    It is only right not to vote for pro-RH politicians.

    It should not matter whether or not the Church officially endorses it.

    • reddfrog

      It’s right ….just because you say so? Wow.

  • kumilos_tayo

    Sobra nkakadismaya tlaga astang padre damaso na sila.. bweesit..

  • $8278216

    HINDE NA DAPAT PA MAKI ALAM SA BOTOHAN ANG MGA ARSOBISPO/PARI, HUWAG NA NINYONG DIKTAHAN ANG MAMAMAYAN UPANG MAG DISISYON SA KANILANG MGA KARAPATAN SA PAG BOTO. PABOR AKO SA DIVORSYO, ITO ANG KAILANGAN SA PILIPINAS AT HINDE ANULLMENT LAMANG. SA DIVORSYO, MAY KASALAN NA NANGYARI SAMANTALA ANG ANNULLMENT, MAWAWALA,PINAYAGAN ITO NG SIMBAHAN KAYA DITO MO MAKIKITA ANG KA IPOKRITUHAN. MAINIT ANG PILIPINAS SA NGAYON, LUMABAS KAYONG MGA ARSOBISPO PARA DANASIN DIN ITO AT HUWAG MANATILI SA BAHAY NINYO NA PURO NAKA AIRCONDITION, DADA LAMANG KAYO PERO KULANG KAYO SA GAWA UPANG MA-I-ANGAT ANG PAMUMUHAY NG MAMAMAYAN. KUNG MAKA TAO KAYO BUKSAN NINYO ANG MGA PINTUAN NG INYONG EXCLUSIBONG SCHOOL SA MGA MAHIHIRAP NA NAIS MAKA PAG ARAL AT HINDE PURO SA MAYAYAMAN LAMANG, O BAKA NAIS NINYONG MAGING MANGMANG HABANG BUHAY UPANG SUNODSUNURAN SA MGA NAIS NINYO KAGAYA NG NAIS NG INYONG KABARONG SI DAMASO.HINDE AKO PABOR SA PAG AASAWAHAN NG MAG KA PAREHONG SEX, PARA NAMAN YATANG KABABUYAN NA ITO,,,,PERO SANDALI,HINDE BA MARAMI SA KANILA ANG GANITO!!!!he,he.

    • josh_alexei

      I like your idea of the Catholic Church opening its schools to the public…that was a very splendid idea that we already implemented Province wide in our Ontario enrolling 40 % of the Students without Discrimination…and is also allotted proportionate amount of budget as secondary education is Tax Funded…although the Catholic Schools teach religious studies in additions to the Curriculum prescribed by the ministry it can not campaign against the Programs already in place and enacted into law by the Legislators and yet the Church is Free to fight against any Proposed law and joined the public debate during its enactment process and it can marshall its forces to fight for its belief and doctrine, but once it is enacted, everyone must Respect the Law even it it will not be forced upon them…yes the Catholic Schools can refused subjects that is against its teachings and doctrines (the ministry is very careful that all curriculums must be secular in nature for all faith based schools and Public schools, other faith based schools which enrolls less than 3 % is not fully funded but parents and students can deduct their schools in their taxes…

      As far as same Sex union being legal in Canada has nothing to do with Government or the Church..in Fact the Church and the Government fought side by side on this issue, but it was the SC decision on the case of Mr. Hislop, a Gay and Gay Activist, against Pension Canada for Equal Benefits for same sex Union under the Rights to Equality as guaranteed by the Charter of Rights and Freedom…and the Courts from the Bottom up agreed with Mr. HISLOP to disappointment of the Government (has to pay billions in retro benefits and now all benefits to same sex couple as the law of marriage between the MAN and WOMAN at the exclusion of all others was stricken out by that Rulings..and the Church was Very very disappointed for a very very different Reason…But the SC is the COURT OF LAST RESORT AND CAN NOT FLIP AND FLOP.

  • John Sulayman

    Instead of shunning those who are pro-choice, shun those who are not in favor of the development of our country.

    Oh, and shun the Roman Catholic Church too until they grow up from the stone ages.

  • barangayboso

    YES to responsible parenthood…

    • JOHNCeneza

      Amen

  • doublecross

    pera-pera lang yan, soc…..magkano ka ba.

  • buttones

    It might help if the good Bishop was a bit more specific and gave us some names of these very naughty type people who are not doing as the Church orders, and to help us, take out a full page ad in all the nationals with all the candidate names of the Very Nice and Good People who Will Go to Heaven on one side, and The very Naughty People who won’t Go to Heaven and will Burn in Hell on the other side….That way nobody would have to think at all…..

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000923389289 David Bobir

      more fun in hell

      • buttones

        Well they say the devil has all the best tunes!

    • juanpedro de jose

      hindi na sila masusunog sa empyerno kasi kaluluwa na sila hindi na sila makakaramdam ng sakit.. nakapunta kana cguro sa empyerno kasi alam mo ang mangyayari… lol!

  • UrHONOR

    SO? Coming from a helmeted gowned in glitters that looks like a CIRCUS CLOWN, Momoy Villegas is nothing but a mouthpiece of an automaton that recite day-in and day-out, again and again and again, the same stories from the story book like a robot…devoid of concern and compassion. Basta’t makapagsalita lang na lumalabas na sila na ang pinakamabuti at pinakamalinis sa mundo, bibira-ng-bibira kahit wala sa tema. SAPUL na UMIILAG pa ang TNL.

    Heto ang pinakaminit na ulat hinggil sa samahan nilang PEKE’T PAKITANG-TAO na dapat nilang kinakalkal:

    VIENNA—Austrian prosecutors on Tuesday charged a 79-year-old former priest of sexually abusing 15 students at a Benedictine monastery between 1973 and 1993

    ============================================

    priest franco decaminada stole 5.1 million dollars from a catholic hospital . he had been stealing the workers wages for months they went to the vatican for help but it refused so they went to the police. 1500 peoples wages for 8 months. the hospital is now insolvent, this was in rome. this week cnn joseph gallagher and mark gaspar are 2 of 26 priest suspended after 2011 grand jury investigation into archdiese handling of sex abuse allegations this happened in penns. usa Sun star apr. 2 2013

  • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

    Just give them a share of PAGCOR’s earnings and they’ll sing a different tune.

    Desperate fight for relevance.

  • Cool LahgotzMO

    ANG IBIG SABIHIN NG MGA ARSOBISPO NA TO IBOTO DAW ANG POLITIKONG ANTI-RH DI BALE NG KAWATAN AT MAMATAY TAO. BLAHHH NAKAPA IPOKRITO KASUKA KAYO.

  • panhase

    This shows how desperate they are. They can sense that they are loosing power and control over the Filipinos. But this will go on, the clergy will not be not able to turn back times.

    • catherine sien

      wrong. this will prove, once more, that there is a catholic vote. the ones who are scared are those commissioning the surveys, the ones putting out press releases putting down the church. you can say as much as you want but the truth is — it is time to be concerned for all those who are for birth control.

      • panhase

        The only ones who are scared are the guys in the funny cloths.

      • catherine sien

        that is what you think…guess again.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000923389289 David Bobir

    every sperm is sacred….haha

  • Rommie V. Pacana

    Shun the church infested with pedophiles and other forms of perversion…

    • Michael Mallari

      shun you…!!!

      • Crazy_horse101010

        you like them baby rapers dont you i suppose during the inquistion. tou would have held the torch when they burnt 10 year old children because they wouldnt sell out their parents. the last 2 were girls

  • Nanci Binay

    dapat talaga natin sundin ang sinasabi ng Simbahang Katoliko ,lalo na ang mga obispo dahil sila ay mga banal na tao. pag sinabi nilang wag iboto,dapat ay wag iboto.

    • Platypus09

      There are Catholics out there who would follow, other than you.

      They are true to their vocation, the way they should.

    • catherine sien

      tama po.

    • batmanlaijai

      totoo yon, banal kasi mga obispo.. sundin natin sila kahit ano sabihin nila pati na rin ginagawa nila… hingi rin tayo pajero… hanap din tayo dami chicks na aanakan… hakhakhak

    • kumilos_tayo

      Dyan ka naman mali Binay tamang tama ung username mo Binay Corrupt official yan ba ang iboboto mo nakakaawa ka.. Hindi porke sinabi ng Pari eh gagawin mo tingnan mo din kung tama ba o mali hindi lahat ng Pari at obispo eh banal.

  • watot

    Disgusted! Counter solution not criticisms! Now, so who will we vote for?

    • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

      Blank parin listahan ko.

    • josh_alexei

      our Scanning machine will count a Big X across the Ballot as one protest vote…this is an agreement made by the Electoral body with the Protest Party named Rhinoceros that if the protest vote is counted, the Party will drop out and would not field any candidate…the Scanner was programmed to count a Cross X as a protest vote and will also be published along with the results…maybe if that is agreed in the Phl the X will win the majority…seems that it is hard to pick one single deserving candidate…is Lito Lapid running?

  • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

    If we’re all “children” of god….then why do we have to worship our “brother” jesus?

    Just asking….

    How are the Mitsubihsops doing these days?

    • josh_alexei

      They wanted to make a pick just in case the pick is right, that will be good by either the newest G class or any of the X class…Mitsu is nothing in comparison…

  • brunogiordano

    “The guidelines, to be read at Sunday masses across the country, are seen as an attack on President Benigno Aquino III’s allies who pushed for a controversial birth control law that was passed last year.”

    Ngayon alam na ng mga katoliko kung ano ang SERMON sa lingo, aantayin pa ba ninyo na pakinggan ito???

    • catherine sien

      hindi nila mapapakinggan ito kasi hindi naman po sila nagsisimba dahil hindi naman po sila totoong mga katoliko. walang katolikong pulpol — katoliko ka o hindi. walang grey area po.

      • kumilos_tayo

        Miss hindi lang pagsisimba ang faith at paniniwala mo sa diyos kaya wag kang magsasalita ng ganya kasi pinapakita mo lang na pangit ang MORAL mo.

      • JOHNCeneza

        She is one of those conservative catholics who is stuck in the Pre-Vatican II church.

      • catherine sien

        and you are not a catholic. period.

      • juanpedro de jose

        yan ang mga sagot ng pupol!.. now you know!.. lol…

      • catherine sien

        you are being judgmental po. isa po ito sa utos ng Diyos and pagsimba sa linggo. baka po kayo ang pangit ang moral at hindi ninyo alam ang mga turo ng panginoon diyos.

      • kumilos_tayo

        hindi ikaw ang judge mental alam Miss pag maganda ugali mo makikita yan sa sagot mo kung makasabi ka ng hindi namin alam ang turo ng diyos dyan ka nagkakamali kasi nasa puso ang pagmamahal at pagsunod sa diyos hindi sa pagsunod ng isang sinasabi ng PARI.

      • catherine sien

        kung alam po ninyo ang turo ng diyos hindi po kayo magsasalita ng kung ano ano sa mga kinatawan ng simbahan. ire respeto po ninyo sila. may mga nagkamali man, dahil wala pong perfecto, hindi naman po ito dahilan upang pagsalitaan ng kung ano anong masasama. ang kautusan po ng Diyos ay ang pagmamahal.

    • Michael Mallari

      DAPAT LANG… ano ba ang nagawa na niya maliban sa dagdagan ang taon sa aming pag-aaral ng dalawng taon.. hirap na hirap na ang mga magulang namin sa pag-paparal sa amin.. dagdag pa ng pahirap.. instead na graduate na…. may grade 7 pa !!! tsk… anong klaseng goverment ito… If we can afford to have extra 2 years study.. we could just have taken an MBA or post graduate degree later on…..
      kaya sa ganang akin. di ko talaga campaign ang mga aquions na yan.. hmmpl. -0-(

    • superpilipinas

      Of course. He-he-he. Hindi mo kasi alam dahil hindi ka Katoliko. Hindi lang yun ang kasama sa sermon.

    • Platypus09

      That is their style. They have a good reason to say that.

      They cannot just promote contraceptions and other possible killings of human fetuses and embryos.

      They are there to stay. People need to realize that no matter what, they cannot just keep their eyes closed in the midst of all these brouhahas on contraception.

      Contra – ception means preventing the development of human fetus. The best way to do that is plain ugly and horrible.

      Remember, if you assist in an abortion, you are liable for being an accessory to the killing, which can make you a criminal as well.

      • batmanlaijai

        Pahinga ka na father… wala rin nman kwenta comment mo… hahaha

      • catherine sien

        siguro kayo po ang magpahinga. lahat ng sinasabi ni platypus ang may sense at ang sa inyo, sorry po, vacuum lang.

      • batmanlaijai

        may sense nga!… kaya anti-Christ yan si platypus… kasi ayaw nya ng mga rebelde… Jesus Christ kasi rebelde din!…

      • panhase

        The use of the so called “natural method” is also contraception. What is it that you do not understand? And contraception is not abortion. Why is it for stoneage Catholics so hard to avert lying?

  • shane oy

    i would be happier if church people would shut up their mouths for once. Instead of meddling into dirty politics they should make themselves busy washing away the sins of the faithful.

    Cge kapag natalo ang mga kandidato na matino pero pro-life papakainin ng simbahan ang lahat ng mahihirap. O baka naman gusto ng mga taga simbahan na mga kurakot ang manalo para makapanghingi sila ulit ng pajero. sorry sa friend ko na priest.

  • Nelson Baguya II

    To label one TEAM PATAY
    and to label another with TEAM TATAY.
    MAS GRABEH P KAYO MANGHUSGA ng kapwa nio tao kaysa s mga ka away nio.
    hindi porket pro rh ka labeled k na as mamatay tao,
    at hindi rin porket may anak n kau, hindi nio aakuhin ang responsibilid.

  • George

    This is the reason why there is a separation of power between the state and the church. The state has to protect its own against these people who uses the pulpit for their own advancement.

  • RomyLitz

    Damaso is alive and kicking?

  • Bisaya

    you live for the church and you die for the church. this is what the clergy wants. blind obedience aka fanaticism. i say we should remove the power form these doomsayers and relegate them to the dustbin of antiquity. no man should be in service to the church, but the church should be in service of men. religion should be a tool for improving one’s self and not a tool for servitude. the clergy treats the citizens as serfs like we are treated by the friars. the filipino people should be the boss, master and creator of his destiny. let us stop giving the church control over who are we to be. god is in each one of us. that makes us all equal and brothers. peace!

    • Dax Cogitlog

      Wow!

  • kevv33

    These pronouncements coming from an Archbishop is a clear indication of the Church’s meddling/involvement in Philippine politics which negates the time-honoured tradition that Church should be separated from the Estate.

    • Platypus09

      It has been branded like that, then so be it.

      It is doing what it is supposed to be doing.

      I would rather fight for a good cause, than not doing or saying anything at all.

    • Platypus09

      Campaigning is not meddling.

      Meddling is more than campaigning. Meddling means involved in all aspects of government affairs in which the Church does not do.

  • Platypus09

    I support this initiative, not RH bill.

    If you are a real Catholic, you should NEVER ever support measures like these.

    That is logic.

    Plain and simple.

    • Simplify1

      for your information, logic in religion is irrelevant… all you need is faith! You didn’t know that? Did you become a Catholic because it was the logical thing to do? or did you become a Catholic because of your faith in Him?

    • juanpedro de jose

      moron!..

    • batmanlaijai

      I d i O t …

  • Fulpol

    Iglesia ni Cristo bloc voting is not 100% guarantee of winning the election..

    Mar Roxas lost to Binay despite the endorsement of INC..

    the only way of winning is by hacking..

    1. PCOS
    2. COMELEC
    3. survey firms like SWS..

    Mangahas of SWS already conditioning the people.. LOL

  • katutubongfilipino

    kung saan man kayo kasapi ng paniniwala bomoto ayon sa inyong paniniwala wag mag padikta

  • ApoLapullapu

    This Pastoral Letter will test the clout of the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church on its members.

    • Platypus09

      That is what you think.

      That is only your opinion.

      • juanpedro de jose

        this is our opinion! depending your church are making you an idiot!..

      • ApoLapullapu

        Naturally, it is my opinion. i have no rational cause to post here with my name below the opinions of others.

  • ashleybulls

    I’m a Catholic and I’m Pro-choice….

  • ztefertilizerscam10

    SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE…..
    TAX THE CHURCH AND STOP DONATING YOUR MONEY.

    • Platypus09

      The church is not involved in all aspects of our government.

      Campaigning is simply campaigning, not meddling.

      • JOHNCeneza

        I call threatening/blackmailing government officials as meddling

      • juanpedro de jose

        and you are a moron!..

      • catherine sien

        ooops napikon na po yata kayo kay platypus09 because he is right after all.

  • katutubongfilipino

    election time >politico parang mga asong maamo bahag ang buntot susuyo sa botante,available any time> pagkatapos ng election nakakatawa back to normal di mo mahagilap hehehe pinoy style

  • gwenbalili

    hay salamat may pag asa na si maceda.. di baling korap basta pro life

  • Ed_ksa

    Vote straight TEAM PINOY..!!!!

  • berong es

    ganoon lang yun sa simbahang katoliko? kahit mamamatay tao,kahit magnanakaw iboboto basta pro RH law?

  • katutubongfilipino

    denial

  • glg_ph

    elections, in our country, are divisive. with this pronouncement from the bishops, the catholic church will likewise experience divisiveness…

  • RyanE

    On the contrary, voters should be wary of those narrow-minded candidates who are subservient to the whims and caprices of the bishops.

    • catherine sien

      sure go ahead and vote for all the corrupt and immoral candidates…

  • mekeni62

    and the Catholic Church is in denial that their numbers are dwindling.

    • Platypus09

      That is not true.

      There are still more generations of Catholics who are more dedicated than you do, the young ones.

      • mekeni62

        there’s the proof. outright denial from you.

  • cogito728sum

    They just wouldn’t stop, these meddling Catholic bishops. They want to control everything. Yes folks, everything, from preaching, politicking, and of course picking if you folks get what I mean. In the name of their God. The question is what ultimately happens to a society when the unifying force is itself the source of widening schism among its people. These bishops will not cease and desist until what their God has put together is ultimately torn asunder. No as well to their candidates. Merci!

    • Platypus09

      That is not true. You are full of exaggeration.

      The church is only campaigning, not influencing government legislature and justice system.

      What you said are mostly lies, and you know that..

      • Veril

        we also know that we are free to choose. the church here in the philippines, i believe, is becoming misleading and judgmental. i still believe in them but i think they are failing to see goodness in others :(

      • Edgar Lores

        Campaign means to “exert oneself to gain an end or to engage in a crusade for a certain cause”. Influence means to “exert power to affect another”.

        What’s the difference?

        If the Church campaigns for certain candidates, that means it wants to influence the government.

      • Platypus09

        Campaigning is a menial task comparing to actual influencing government decisions and operations.

        Campaigning is way superficial than being really influential.

      • Edgar Lores

        So it is a matter of degree, is it? Reminds me of the old joke: if you only use the tip it’s not intercourse.

      • juanpedro de jose

        bulag kaba o bingi! o sadyang tanga lang!..

      • cogito728sum

        I’m sorry Platypus if I disagree and fail to accommodate you. If in your impression what I said were exaggerations, then who am I to deprive you of such right? But let me tell you this: We are both victims of what you defend and what I criticize. One particular point. Even prior to the revelation of sexual abuses by priests that scandalized the church, I had the chance of studying a case in criminal law wherein right at the very back of the altar, the priest was sexually ravaging his 16 year old accolade. This happened somewhere in Bataan or Zambales more than four decades ago but must still be in the records of Philippine Reports. Even then, I stuck to my catholic faith for as long as I could. I was even a 3rd degree member of its fraternal organization. But you see, there has to be a limitation for all human exploitation, especially mental subjugation. And when one clearly see it happening, one has to open his eyes to reality. That’s why I left long ago and intend never to return. Not to have done so would be what you call a lie.

        You think it is that easy to criticize something that once upon a time you held dear to your heart? No believe you me it is not. That’s why as much as you and Mr. Tibs (Mang Teban) can insult me in defense of your faith, I can understand that because I was once in your position.

        At this point in her history, what is wrecking havoc in our country is not just the politicians but the bishops as well for their incessant interference in secular affairs. Unfortunately, we are complicit for being intimidated. Merci!

  • Hellomr

    Church stay away … We’re old enough to know what we are doing….

    • catherine sien

      yup, old enough to know that you are doing wrongly.

    • Lolek Pugeda

      Should we ignore the elderlys’ advices because we are old enough to know what we are doing.

      • scy.no.med

        No, but we should disregard the advice of the blind when the sun is up.

    • Lolek Pugeda

      Knowing what you are doing, does not guarantee that you know the consequences.

  • Platypus09

    I am a proud Catholic, NOT proud killers of human fetuses and human embryos.

    Yuck..!!

    How many are pro-killing of innocent lives in this forum and in this country?

    Shame….

    • josh_alexei

      Now if you do not want any of this done, keep your legs close all the time…

    • Crazy_horse101010

      what does birthj control have to do with fetuses. philippine government stats on there are over 500000 illegaly abortions in this country ever year compare that to america who has 1 million but america has 350 million people latin america 3 to 1 ratio to america countries un europe with highest abortion rate spain and italy. that is the shame oh the death rate among women compared to here and america 9 to 1 latin america the same

  • josh_alexei

    what is the objection of the Church against the RH law? helping the poor plan the size of their families? the well to do are already doing this family planning regardless of their religion..observe most of the Rich and the wealthy and the number of their children, one or two or Three…why because they can afford the luxury of contraceptive pills and if the pills Missed, the cost of Safe and Hospital procedure TERMINATION of Pregnancy aka Abortion…so in Short, the Priest are Sadists and Cruel and wanted the Poor to Suffer for being Poor…and where will these type of PriestS Go after their terms on earth expireD? well of course to HELL…

    • Platypus09

      Being poor is not the priests’ fault.

      They only protect innocent lives. That is being noble.

      • josh_alexei

        The priest is sent to protect the souls of the sinners not the innocent and of the guilty as that is what Jesus was Sent by the Father for…they priest is butting on the business not their own…That decision is left for the woman and hers alone, and the government will give the woman the support to which decision she arrives…and the Priest can pray for her soul…

      • Platypus09

        They are citizens of this country, and they are there to protect human fetuses and innocent human embryos to develop.

        They have their own agenda being promoters of natural order and preservation of life.

      • panhase

        Yes, you got it. They are there to help develop human embryos, that´s why some of them father kids.

      • josh_alexei

        and how about the Children that were abused by their fellow priest and brothers and nun sexually and physically, the living, breathing children?

      • Crazy_horse101010

        they really protect them when they are sodomizing little boys. one of the things they do is make the child read the bible while raping them when they were done they would they the child dont say anything or god will come down and kill your mother and father this was one of the statements in the lawsuits yeah they are really noble.

      • Platypus09

        There are thousands of priests around the world that did not sodomize boys.

        They are good priests out there.

        For you to generalize them, you are being discriminatory if not unfair.

      • batmanlaijai

        b u b u …. hikhik

      • josh_alexei

        And it took only one Hitler to start the Great war that see more than 20 million lives perished and the horrors of Holocaust and one Pol Pot to build the Killing Fields and there are quite many priests and brothes and nuns that were found to have abused children, physically and sexually…one is one too many…

  • jeff

    Sana itong mga anti-RH pagbigyan naman ang mga mahihirap na makagamit ng condom o contracetive na libre. Kayong mga mayayaman, bakit kukunti lang ang inyong anak habang ang mga pulubi ay sobrang dami. Di ba kayong mga anti-RH ay gumagamit din ng condom o di kaya contraceptive? Huwag naman sana kayong ipokrito.

    Huwag maniwala sa mga anti-RH na walang malasakit sa pulubi. Just vote for the pro-RH candidates, marami pa naman sa mga pro-RH candidates na puede mapagpilian.

  • marionics

    A little boy is standing on top of a cliff, looking down at the sea and crying his eyes out. A priest approaches and says, “My child, why are you so upset?”

    The little boy turns to him and says, “My mummy and daddy were in their car — and it just rolled over the cliff and smashed on the rocks down there.”

    The priest slowly looks around him while unbuttoning his cassock and says, “It’s just not your day, is it?”

    • Crazy_horse101010

      good one where is the 2 stooges i really hurt the ones feelers

    • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

      lol

  • jga94

    We advise you not to vote for the candidate if the candidate cannot declare a categorical and clear ‘no’ to divorce, abortion, euthanasia, total birth control and homosexual marriages or death issues.

    The document also urges Catholics to shun candidates who are “antagonistic to church teachings and practices”, philanderers, drug dealers, and those who destroy the environment, buy votes or engage in terrorism.

    Eh sino na natira?

  • marionics

    A man is stumbling through the woods, totally drunk, when he comes upon
    a preacher baptizing people in the river. He proceeds to walk into the
    water and subsequently bumps into the preacher. The preacher turns
    around and is almost overcome by the smell of alcohol, whereupon he asks
    the drunk, “Are you ready to find Jesus?” The drunk answers, “Yes, I
    am.” So the preacher grabs him and dunks him in the water. He pulls him
    up and asks the drunk, “Brother have you found Jesus? “The drunk
    replies, “No, I haven’t found Jesus.” The preacher shocked at the
    answer, dunks him into the water again for a little longer. He again
    pulls him out of the water and asks again, “Have you found Jesus my
    brother?” The drunk again answers, “No, I haven’t found Jesus.” By this
    time the preacher is at his wits end and dunks the drunk in the water again — but this time holds him down for about
    30 seconds and when he begins kicking his arms and legs he pulls him
    up. The preacher again asks the drunk, “For the love of God have you
    found Jesus?”
    The drunk wipes his eyes and catches his breath and says to the
    preacher, “Are you sure this is where he fell in?”

    • pepito gwaps

      lol…same method use in the Sirena story.

  • salvador contreras

    Am sorry to say but the church stand will be its sad loss. Time will come when the church will lose its flock just like in Europe and the States.

    • reddfrog

      That is why the Church is against the RH Bill. They want more minions who are poor and ignorant and easy to fool with their magic circus acts.

    • catherine sien

      nope time will come when God will separate the sheep from the wolves…

      • panhase

        Hopefully, but this would be bad for a lot of clergymen wouldn´t it?

  • hustlergalore

    kaya nga naman tinitira ni jose rizal itong katolikong kaparian na ito. LOL

    • Platypus09

      Jose Rizal was a rebel, like the NPA of the current times.

      He was punished or killed for his deeds.

      Sorry, I don’t see rebels like NPAs as my heroes. They are troublemakers like Jose Rizal in his times.

      • batmanlaijai

        Jesus Christ rebelde din sa mga kings… hahahahaha

      • hustlergalore

        TRUE. jesus christ is anti-establishment also. LOL

      • batmanlaijai

        parang sinabi rin ni platypus na ayaw nya kay Jesus Christ!… bwahahaha

      • hustlergalore

        “He was punished or killed for his deeds…”

        by?

        the catholic priests.

        LOL

  • Manuel_II

    Taena talagang mga paring toh, mag dasal na lang kayo, kaysa makialam sa politika, binabalik nyo panahon ng mga damaso, LOL

    • Platypus09

      Maybe Damaso has not left the Philippines.

      They might stay here forever right in your doorsteps.

      You might end up going away but Damaos, if that is what you call them, will stay.

      • juanpedro de jose

        thats why philippines is dome… sana pumunta na kayo ng langit kung saan mn yon.. hayaan mo na kaming hindi nagpapauto sa inyo…

  • guest

    I am against same-sex marriage, abortion and euthanasia but in favor of RH bill and divorce. Archbishop Villegas and CBCP should be more specific, brave and declare which candidates they really want and not confuse its followers whom to support. It is obvious that they are only hurt by politicians who supported RH bill.

  • Yobhtron

    Ang mga Damaso palaging walang nakikinig sa kanila lalo na sa eleksiyon. Linisin niyo ang mga bakuran niyo mga Damaso at huwag makisawsaw sa politico gaya ng sinabi ni Hesus. Mga ipokrito at walang galang kay Hesus.

  • rightist

    I will vote for pro RH candidates. If you know what is good for the Philippines, you should do the same.

    • Platypus09

      What is good in killing fetuses and innocent lives?

      I don’t see that being good.

      • batmanlaijai

        b u b u … hikhikhik

      • juanpedro de jose

        mabuti na yon para hindi na mabiktima ng mga paring maniac! o kundi mamatay sa gutom sa kalye!..

      • rightist

        Misinformation from the anti-RH camp. Unfortunately, many people believe your lies. More education will fix this.

    • catherine sien

      yup, go ahead and vote for the pro RH candidates and contribute to the moral degradation of this country.

      • batmanlaijai

        hahahaha… kawawa ka talaga!

      • rightist

        You can vote for your bastion of morality, Tito Sotto. I will vote for those who have the best interest of all Filipinos.

  • disqus_WIkXYUshrh

    When the church endorses candidates in political elections she always ends up a loser, Arcbishop Villegas said. Then why you and CBCP are campaigning against pro RH law Candidates and telling your members to vote for anti-RH law candidates?

    You are confusing millions of Filipino voters as you confuse catholic members with your confusing teachings.

  • Noel

    Shut up you hypocrites ! After being defeated from RH Bill. we knew the church would retaliate against candidates who supported the Bill. But the pro-RH candidates need not worry. There is and will never be a Catholic vote. Many Catholics including some priests wanted the Bill. The candidates should be more concerned with INC votes than the Catholic votes. INC and other Christian groups have no problem with RH Bill.

    • catherine sien

      guess again po. if there is no catholic vote why are all these pro RH candidates now so scared, some trying to make statements that they are for life.

      • http://www.facebook.com/ellebullo Ellee R. Bullo

        mga politico ang isang boto mahalaga kaya takot sila eh ikaw ba nman siraan sa paraang maling impormasyon ang ibibigay sayo…

      • Noel

        Of course there are Catholic votes. But there’s no so called solid or block voting. There’s no unity vote. The church tried but keeps failing. The church continues to be divided. Pro-RH candidates want to get as many votes as they can. But we should salute them for their stand and conviction on RH Bill.

  • mangtom

    Platypuso09 says the priests protect innocent lives and being noble: are you nuts? Some dioceses in US have closed down because they became bankrupt after paying millions of dollars to satisfy claims of rape and sodomy victims. Open your droopy eyelids and smell the coffee. Or are you pretending you are not aware of what is going on in your church?

    If I were you, I would quit making dumb and irresponsible statements that will only expose your ignorance of the facts.

    • Platypus09

      That was not dumb.

      I was saying stuff like what you did and others.

      You might find my comments unconventional but enlightening. So there.

  • Alala Peter

    susunod po kami sa gabay na aming simbahang katoliko,

  • juan dela cruz

    They do not fear criticisms. They do not fear losing their
    privileges. Most important, they do not fear taking a stand not in line
    with the Catholic Church’s.

    Two organizations of Catholics in the country were strongly
    supporting the passage of the controversial Reproductive Health (RH)
    bill.

    The Philippine Federation of Married Catholic Priests Inc. (PFMCPI)
    believes that Filipinos, especially women, need the RH bill for their
    and their family’s well-being, said its vice president for Visayas, Fr.
    Anastacio Mangubat.

    A civil society group, the Catholics for Reproductive Health (C4RH), shared the same conviction.

    The C4RH’s mission was to “organize and support fellow Filipino
    Catholics in understanding, appreciating and promoting (reproductive
    health) as a right.”

    Many priests fall silent on the issue for fear that the Church
    hierarchy — the bishops, in particular — will reprimand them if they
    support the bill, Mangubat said.

    These priests had to abide by their anti-RH bishops despite knowing
    that the Church’s teachings against contraceptives were not infallible,
    he said.

    Many of such priests were afraid to lose their privileges if they go
    against the will of the bishops, according to Fr. Vic Abadesco of C4RH.

    “They were afraid that they will be ousted and their privileges forfeited,” said Abadesco, also a married priest.

    They also fear that the parishioners will lose respect for them, he added.

    Why is the Church hierarchy opposed to the RH bill?

    One of the reasons was their “unfounded fears” when the proposed
    measure becomes a law, like the promotion of sex, especially among the
    youth, which is a myth, Abadesco said.

    The RH bill aims to provide access to various types of contraception, and promote sex education and family planning.

    However, the Church is against the measure, more particularly on the
    promotion of the use of artificial contraceptives in family planning. It
    has always been in favor of the natural method.

    But many families have already been practicing artificial
    contraception even before the bill was conceptualized and in spite of
    the Church’s influence, said Fr. Elmer Cajilig, also a married priest.

    The decision on whether or not to use artificial contraceptives rests
    on the shoulders of the couples, not the bishops, he stressed.

    Besides, the availability of and the access to reproductive health
    services is “very crucial” to the development and management of a
    family, Cajilig said.

    “This bill is not just about sex. It’s about responsible parenthood
    in general, and there is nothing wrong about that,” the priest said.

    “No one should be deprived of their right to reproductive health,” he said.
    The controversial bill had been pending in Congress for more than a
    decade. Lawmakers supporting it are expecting its passage before they
    take their Christmas break.

    This Article not mine:

    Courtesy of JEZZA NEPOMOCENO

  • Noel

    Now we know why church attendance is dwindling and many are leaving the church.

    • Platypus09

      I would rather go to Catholic church than to other religions. The priests only guide us, but God is the primary reason we go there.

      I don’t like the liberated and highly opinionated born – against Christians. They are only good in fellowships and singing. I don’t see their pastors, whose moral convictions I also question, better than the priests.

      • batmanlaijai

        Pahinga ka na father… hahaha

      • juanpedro de jose

        Its better to have no religion.. your mind is free.. no one who dictates and no hell to be afraid..

      • Noel

        Guide? How could a blind guide another blind? And priests do not practice what they preach. Why do you think there are many reported and unreported cases of sex abuses by the priests? Why are they not teaching the words of God written in the Holy Scriptures. Instead, they teach man-made doctrines and pagan traditions.

      • superpilipinas

        Exactly. We try to achieve more difficult discipline and faith, he-he-he, while others only follow what is convenient and comfortable to them and so they make their own flavor or religion and support these liberal laws . But it is free will so let them be.

        We are the Catholic Church. Our Church is so awesome that others can’t prevent themselves from being envious. So envious that they think priests are gods or superbeings that if some commit mistakes, he-he-he, they think as if gods have fallen.

  • Simplify1

    Using condoms and birthcontrol pills are MORTAL SINS, do not vote PNoy adherents to the RH bill

    You can vote for candidates led by a convicted felon Estrada because PLUNDER is a VENIAL SIN only…. Even GMA thought that this sin is not so great that she pardoned Estrada….

    yukks!!

  • mangtom

    Catherine Sien says that the good bishop is not endorsing any candidates and not even mentioning names. True. But labeling a candidate as a member of the Team Patay, is that not the same as mentioning names indirectly? Ang babaw mo naman, sister Cathy.

  • Alala Peter

    mabuhay mga bayaning bishop katoliko

    • superpilipinas

      mabuhay. manalo man sila, nagawa ang karapat-dapat.

  • superpilipinas

    “The law requires state health centres to hand out free condoms and birth control pills and mandates that sex education be taught in schools.”

    He-he-he. The law spends billions of pesos from taxpayers for people who can not discipline themselves and itch to fffck. It encourages people and the young to fffck like cats and dogs.

    Don’t vote for Team PNoy. It is blocking FOI and maintaining corrupt and incompetent political allies which are blocking immediate progress of the Philippines

    • batmanlaijai

      That’s why bishop and priests use condoms? They can’t discipline themselves? Ffckkng is fun! Other bishops and priests use flavored condoms?

      • superpilipinas

        he-he-he. i like your response because it makes my comment more meaningful. thanks.

  • MANGLUCIO

    Vote what you think is right and good for the country not for the good of religion. If you think having more impoverish kids roaming around the streets almost naked and scavenging for food in garbage bins, then vote with what this CBCP are asking you. But if you can’t stomach the sight of these kids, Vote for those who are pro RH bill. Do not be swayed by this CBCP afterall they have done nothing to alleviate from the sufferings of the poor kids on the street..

    • Lolek Pugeda

      The good of the country and the good of religion are not always mutually exclusive.

    • superpilipinas

      He-he-he.

      RH law takes 3 billion pesos of hardworking taxpayer’s money to provide for people who can’t discipline themselves and want to fffck anytime they itch. It encourages the youth to fffck around like dogs and cats because they have the free means to do so.

  • Vertumnus

    Filipinos should vote according to their conscience not according to what the church tells them to do. That is basis for self determination. Only you can decide not the church.!

    • superpilipinas

      He-he-he. Exactly. That’s what the church teaches to Catholics….free will based on moral conscience. And moral conscience is based on moral guidance….which the Church provides.

  • pedro

    ang simbahan di dapat maki-alam sa politics…kaya nagkaloko loko ang pinas dahil sa kanila.. ang nakaupong senador or congressman ayaw makialam sa mga ayaw ng simbahan dahil takot silang di na maboboto sa next election, kahit tama sana na gawin…
    dapat ang tao kung sino ang dapat at tamang iboto…hindi yong gusto ng simbahan, dahil pag may mga calamities, nakatago lahat ang mga pari na yan… wala man lang marinig na tumutulong sa mga nasunugan, nabaha, na-anod at mga namatay sa digmaan sa mindanao…

    • Platypus09

      The Catholic church is governed by the Pope in Vatican City, another special form of government in Rome.

      Priests are special envoys of the Church of Vatican.

      So there. Just to let you know.

      • batmanlaijai

        Correct ka dyan… kaya yumayaman ang vatican… ang mahihirap lalong humihirap… pahinga ka na father… wala rin kwenta comments mo… pagod ka na ata!

      • superpilipinas

        He-he-he. Kung responsibilidad lang ng Katoliko ang mahihirap, eh para ano pa ang gubyerno?

    • superpilipinas

      He-he-he. Kung di dapat makialam ang simbahan, eh di si Imelda ang Prime Minister ng Pilipinas ngayon.

      He-he-he. Hindi nilalagay ng simbahan sa diyaryo ang mga tulong nito. He-he-he. Hindi ka kasi Katoliko kaya hindi mo alam.

  • tagasugod

    I am a devout catholic, no doubt. One reason why many are contemplating to switch religion is the politicking of the church. Yes it has the right to recommend but not to dictate. Catholics are known for their independence and the church will be the looser in this battle. Don’t meddle too much. RH law is not bad. What we need is a compassionate society. Can’t you those street children begging under the heat of the sun? They were born just for the sake of being born. If you cannot support your children don’t bring them to this cruel world. To the priests, abandon your SUVs, the comfort of your convent and live with the deprived. Unless you do so, you’re no more than a hypocrite politician.

  • Alala Peter

    watch out for the catholic block vote ! time has come

    • batmanlaijai

      in your face! kala mo sa mga catolico kagaya mo na uto-uto!… hahaha

    • superpilipinas

      yup. he-he-he. nakakatawa mga inggit sa katoliko…..sila inggit sa katoliko. tayo hindi inggit sa kanila. Catholics are awesome.

  • Alala Peter

    mabuhay ang pro life ibagsak ang Team Patay

  • Alala Peter

    patay ang Team Patay

    • superpilipinas

      he-he-he. At manalo man sila, bawas ang mga boto nila at lalo lang mababawasan sa mga susunod na eleksyon.

  • tagasugod

    Pls., wag na kayong makigulo, kc yung choices nyo, palpak. Ibinabase nyo lang ang choice sa pro or anti RH, na isang napaka kitid na batayan. Bakit hindi nyo pinuna noon si Bro. Mike? Sinuportahan nya si ERAP, babaero, magsusugal, lasenggo. Batikusin nyo ang mga taong walang ginawa kundi ang lokohin ang bayan. Bakit di nyo batikusin ang Iglesia ni Kristo? Dinidiktahan ang mga tagasunod nila at tinatanggalan ng karapatan ang mga kasapi na malayang pumili? O ginagaya nyo sila ngayon? Maniwala kayo, mapaphiuya kayo dyan. Kaya bago mangyari yon, tigilan nyo na ang pamumulitika. Wag kayong sumali sa partisan politics bilang simbahan.

    • hustlergalore

      hahahaha… obvious ba ang hypocrisy ng catholic priest, cardinals and bishops? pro-life daw sila pero ang dami nilang pinatay nung inquisition. LOL

  • bisdakis

    Hang all remnants of Padre Damaso! They are the real curse to this country!

    • superpilipinas

      You can’t hang imaginary characters.

    • Lolek Pugeda

      You can kill padre Damaso, but that didn’t stop El Filibusterismo from coming.

  • batmanlaijai

    E kung Catholic Church na lng kaya magpatakbo ng pinas?…. parang sila nman palagi tama kasi mga sugo sila ng Diyos!… hndi sila pwede magkamali (according sa kanila) kasi nga ginagabayan sila ng Diyos! Try natin kaya!…. hahahahaha… p w e e e … nakakasuka na!

    • superpilipinas

      He-he-he. Ang lakas talaga ng Catholic Church. Nagbibigay lang sila ng guidance, pero ang dating sa iba parang silay napwepwersa. Kaya naman takot sila sa Catholic Vote!

      • batmanlaijai

        b o b o … uto-uto… pahinga ka na father!

      • Lolek Pugeda

        Saan ang inyong ebidensiya na siya ay isang pari?

  • CaseBlue

    The discussions show clearly that the sad prophecy of our Lady of Fatima has come to pass. There has been a tremendous decline in faith since Vatican II. Many people, including Catholics, reject the teachings of the Catholic Church. They reject the notion of sin. Some deny the existence of Hell. They extol their human conscience as superior over God’s teachings as espoused by the Church. Priests and Bishops are no longer respected due to the misdeeds of a few although they alone can administer the sacraments. My prayers go with Pope Francis for the revitalization of the Church.

    • superpilipinas

      Don’t be discourage by the mistakes of some…..just as I am not discouraged of Filipinos by the mistakes of some. Priest and Bishops are like us…human beings. But it’s funny that non-Catholics think that they are like gods or superior beings that when some commit wrongdoings, they react like a gods have fallen. he-he-he.

      • CaseBlue

        I noticed that a lot of comments are full of hate directed at the Catholic Church and the clergy. All I can say to them is that may God’s peace be with them. May His peace remove the hate in their hearts. The Church will endure. God Bless Pope Francis.

  • http://www.facebook.com/yet.jua Yet Jua

    I am a Catholic myself,but please we don’t behave like we’re an underrated religion.That kind of behavior is only good for cults that try to manipulate and command their followers whatever the hierarchy wants them to do.

    • superpilipinas

      You’re not a Catholic You just think you are. He-he-he.
      He-he-he. Catholics follow Catholic guidance…otherwise…follow your own teaching and call yourself a protestant. If you are a Catholic, you know that Catholic teachings are not like a menu where you select what is only convenient and desirable to you.

      • http://www.facebook.com/yet.jua Yet Jua

        the priests can only tell to their followers the teachings of the Catholic church but not to the point that they tell their followers who to vote and not to vote…or else you migrate to North Korea,or China or Cuba…..

  • LAMBFORGOVERNOR

    SHUN CATHOLICISM This religious philosophy is built on pagan rituals, idolism, incantations, torture and keeping the poor and ignorant… poor, ignorant and PREGNANT. Spiritualism is a direct path to God. Leave this philosophy and find God again. Think for yourself.

    • superpilipinas

      He-he-he. Yup. Vote for that person. He has direct path to god. He says he sees and talks to god while he has taken some weed and drank a bottle of gin and when he is having sex. he sees god in his “heavenly world”.

      …..or you can vote with the guidance of a church of 1.5 billion faithful who have common belief of morality and spiritual guidance.

      • AntiAko

        Asus, OA ka ha. According to your premise:

        si GMA malamang protestante dahil corrupt.
        si Marcos malamang muslim dahil corrupt.

        Pag masama malamang hindi katoliko dahil ang mga katoliko may “belief of morality at spiritual guidance”. Wake up, man. You are turning delusional.

      • LAMBFORGOVERNOR

        Hahaha.. faithful.. haha.. thats funny… lemmings is more like it.

        Do 5 hell marys and dont play with yourself for a week… the hair has grown into your brain….

      • Lolek Pugeda

        I am a proud lemming. By the way it is “hail” not “hell”.

      • LAMBFORGOVERNOR

        Lemmings line up to the left behind Lolek please… Spiritualist go straight to heaven… pass go.. collect $200….

      • Lolek Pugeda

        If people like you are going to heaven, any sane person would line up to the left!

      • LAMBFORGOVERNOR

        haha.. now that is funny… sane persons on the left.. you christians… hahaha…

      • Lolek Pugeda

        Nobody ever said the truth can’t be funny. Especially beside your rather grim judgement of Christians, anything would appear to be funny.

      • LAMBFORGOVERNOR

        it is not the christians i have grim judgement of. they are only human… it is the christian philosophy and its many tactics to promote each and every variation as the one and only one…… people i like.. religion i dont… you know, you can be one with god without religion dont you….

      • Lolek Pugeda

        Well God is one. Thus, truth can only be singular with traces of it, never variations. Remember Jesus was a religious Jew. Also, any personal path to God will ultimately collide with others paths. Religion, specifically Christianity, is just a fusion of personal paths to God, with a common thinking. But come let us have peace now.

  • batmanlaijai

    E kung Catholic Church na lng kaya magpatakbo ng pinas?…. parang sila nman palagi tama kasi mga sugo sila ng Diyos!… hndi sila pwede magkamali (according sa kanila) kasi nga ginagabayan sila ng Diyos! Try natin kaya!…. hahahahaha… p w e e e … nakakasuka na!

    • superpilipinas

      He-he-he. Ang lakas talaga ng Catholic Church. Nagbibigay lang sila ng guidance, pero ang dating sa iba parang silay napwepwersa. Kaya naman takot sila sa Catholic Vote!

      • batmanlaijai

        Ganun ba father? guni-guni mo lng yon! Alam naman ng lahat na corrupt tsaka immoral ang mga leaders ng Catholic Church!

  • joshmale2004

    What if one candidate is a known corrupt and a member of political dynasty but opposed to the RH Bill? Will the Church still support him or her because of his stand on the RH bill?

    • superpilipinas

      Simple answer. No.

      • batmanlaijai

        boto natin sabi ni bishop! dapat sundin natin si bishop!

  • 2rey3

    A Catholic is free to leave the Church and more, in not following Church teachings and vice versa using his conscience. he or she is to be judged by God based on his acts and will. The issue is faithfulness and understanding the issues. Is murder not condemned in the bible like when Cain murdered Abel? Abortion is murder right? Did Jesus not declare that divorce is against God’s will even if Moses allowed it due to the hardheadedness of the Jews? Sodom and Gommora were destroyed by God due to promiscuity and unnatural sex acts engaged by their inhabitants, right? Now the Catholic only encourages the Faithful not to vote pro choices candidates and WHY WOULD SOME CATHOLICS AND NON CATHOLICS COMPLAIN WHEN WHAT SHE ADMONISHES IS VERY MUCH IN ACCORDANCE TO THE TEACHINGS OF THE BIBLE AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH???

    • joshmale2004

      You are correct. These are all in the Bible. But these despicable acts against God is not even promoted in the RH Bill. Can you specifically cite any article in the RH Bill which promote the things you mentioned like:
      1. Murder
      2. Abortion
      3. Divorce
      4. Promiscuity and unnatural sex acts

  • speaksoftlylove

    What Church is Archbishop Villegas referring to when he said that. “When the Church endorses candidates in political elections she always ends up a loser.”?

    All the while I thought that this is the first time the Church will endorse candidates in public?

  • Lolek Pugeda

    As a devout Catholic, I am dissatisfied with the general leadership of the CBCP. It is not appropriate to dictate when what Filipinos need are both dialogue and information. Based on what I know, the CBCP issues conclusions without sufficient arguments to back them up. The CBCP should guide the conscience not leave it starving.

    • superpilipinas

      He-he-he. You’re not a devout Catholic…not even a regular one…you just think you are.

      You said and I quote: “It is not appropriate to dictate when what Filipinos need are both dialogue and information.”

      If you are a Catholic…why would you say “dictates”? He-he-he, that’s a lie. Where in the news or anywhere that used the word “dictates”? The news used the word “guidelines”.

      and then you say “Base on what I know”…..and not based on what CBCP actually provided. So are you really a Catholic? If you are a Catholic, understand with an open mind before you mention negative opinions about CBCP…or you can follow the protestants since that’s what they normally do.

      • Lolek Pugeda

        Yes I have been to the Vatican. I read some scripture in Latin the language of the Church. Also, I regularly attend mass on Sundays and weekdays. How about you?

      • Lolek Pugeda

        May I also ask you, where are the arguments for the above conclusions? Also, it is because of an open mind that I came to the conclusion.

  • Patrick

    Filipino People: Shun antiquated, ill-informed Catholic Church Officials

  • Dax Cogitlog

    Only sheep need a shepherd , smart ones need not to.

    • Lolek Pugeda

      But the blind need a guide no matter how smart they may be.

  • boboposter

    Vox populi vox dei!

    • Lolek Pugeda

      That is a flawed concept because people contradict themselves and God cannot contradict Himself. Scripture and tradition are the vox Dei.

      • boboposter

        God cannot contradict himself? How about comparing the Old and New testaments of the Bible, where God commanded Saul, David and Solomon to wage wars then suddenly on the New testament, God will say “love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you”.

        This Bible passage is the clearest indication of God flip-flopping:

        Matthew 5:43-44
        “43 You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you”

        Verse 43 refers to the Old testament, 44 refers to the New.

        God cannot contradict himself ei?

      • Lolek Pugeda

        First of all the scriptures were of different social contexes so naturally there would be differences and there is no contradiction because the former verse. referred to the existing philosophy of the day, which is why God, through the person of Jesus, clarified it with the latter verse.

      • boboposter

        If God is universal, then there should be no differing contexts even in between cultures.

        I doub’t Jesus clarified the Old Testament, rather, it’s undeniable that he reversed the old laws. The “eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth” was reversed with “offer your other cheek” for instance.

        There’s a big difference between a clarification and reversal. When clarifying, you ought to remain in the same side of the argument, not jump to the oppopsition, which is how a reversal is.

      • Lolek Pugeda

        The “eye for an eye” was from the Code of Hammurabi, an unbiblical source. Jesus mentioned it because he knew that that was a de facto thinking then. Which is why it is said “you have heard that it was said…” the verse you mentioned. It states the line of thinking not neccesarily the intended on by God. But let us have peace now.

      • boboposter

        True, it was first from the Code of Hammurabi but it was accepted as well by Jews and it shows in the Old Testament as something coming from God.

        Ok peace then :)

  • QritiQ

    I fully understood where the Catholic leadership is coming from but it would be great to hear their opinion on other substantive issues that affect the daily lives of the common people like the high income tax, e-VAT, oil deregulation, electoral law improvements, price control, high cost of electricity, etc. I mean, there are issues out there that equally deserve their attention and wisdom. Without these issues being voiced out by the Catholic hierarchy, i think, it would just be pure religious politicking and power struggle from their end to say the least.

    • superpilipinas

      It’s a matter of priority.

      The government should have prioritized FOI, job creation, disease and calamity death reduction, and other things that would directly and immediately impact people lives. Not making expensive laws like to provide for people who itch and just want to fffck anythime.

      The Church priority is morality and to teach people and the youth to use discipline and natural means as a root cause and moral solution rather than expensive patches like laws that all the more encourages immorality. Even as this is the priority of the Church, it also exerts effort to push for laws that are better for the people, like FOI and anti-corruption.

  • Bisdak_kaayo

    Hindi po namimilit si Cristo at ang Diyos, pro choice po sila.
    Ang tao binigyan ng FREE WILL ng Diyos, para mamili ano ang gusto at piliin niya.

    Napa epokrito ng mga Pari dinidiin ang gusto nila.

    • Lolek Pugeda

      If Jesus and God are pro choice because He gave us free will to choose pro choice. Then how about those who used there free will to be pro-life?

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Ang pagka pro life wala sa RH BILL, because the RH bill only gives choices to people not force people what to do.

        Kung gusto mo at ang mga Pari na maging pro life kayo, do it in you own lives do not force others to be denied of the right to choose.

        The RH law only gives the right to choose, but the priests wants to deny the non believers of that right by blocking the law.

      • Lolek Pugeda

        Here is the thing, the Church acknowledges that the collective choices of a significant number of people will have long term effects. Thus, it is more profitable, in my opinion, to focus on the sex education curriculum Education is our best defence.

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Sex education only gives people choices too, it does not tell you what is morally right or wrong. In short walang kinalaman ang mga pari sa sex education. By telling us to pursue sex education, you are as good as telling us, the priests SHOULD not be involve, because they have no part of it in the first place.

      • Lolek Pugeda

        But the Church does have a point that the current modus operandi can be improved.

    • superpilipinas

      he-he-he. naguguluhan ka lang.

      of course pro-choice si Cristo at ang Diyos kung ang ibig mong sabihin pro-choice ay pareho sa Free Will. Pero hindi ibig sabihin dahil may Free Will ka, na OK kay Cristo na gumawa ka ng mali.

      he-he-he. iboboto mo ba ang diniddin ng pari? eh kung hindi. di ba may Free Will ka?

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Saan ko ba sinabing PRO CHOICE ay OK ng gumawa ng MALI?

        Take note not all Filipinos believe in Christ. There are Muslims, Buddhists, Atheists etc. Bakit ba hinarangan ng mga PARI ang RH bill gayong it only gives choices to people at nasa tao na ano ang Piliin niya. People who are not all catholics.

        Walang karapatan ang mga pari to force their ideology to Non believers. at walang karapatan ang mga pari to deny the right of others to choose. Blocking the RH law is blocking the right of others.

        Ikaw ang naguguluhan.

  • gisingpinas

    Kung walang katoliko, bk walang Christmas bonus, wlang long weekend vacation pag all saints day. O labor day. Karamihan sa mga liders product ng ateneo, la salle, sto, tomas etc. karamihan ng libingan ay catholic cemetery. Dyan nililibing din yung mga member ng ibang secta kc walang pambayad sa memorial, so ibig sabihin bumalik uli sa pagiging katoliko. Ang mapikon ay talo.

  • Hellomr

    Why is it that only in Philippines that the catholic is interfering the goverment business . This never happen in other country like in US or Canada or in Italy ,

    • Lolek Pugeda

      Actually the clergy does voice it’s stance in other countries. It may just be that you are more informed of the Church’s activties in the Philippines, thus giving the impression they only do it there.

    • superpilipinas

      There is no interference.

      But if the Catholic Church did not voice against wrongdoings of the government, you have Imelda as the prime minister of the Philippines today.

      The Catholic Church played a big role in the People Power, which the world including US and Canada and Italy, has praised.

  • http://twitter.com/erncastillo ern

    get out of politics….

  • Commentator

    trivia time!

    do u know y the spanish occupation of ph lasted for 300yrs?

    answer: catholism

    adolf hitler is catholic. just
    saying…

    • Lolek Pugeda

      Hitler was also Austrian Oh no! Austria is evil!

      • Commentator

        religion is a CHOICE. nationality is not. see the difference?

      • Lolek Pugeda

        If you are more informed you would know that Hitler left the Church. By the way nationality is a more or less a choice, which is why Hitler died a German not an Austrian.

      • Commentator

        left the church? lol.

        he is a tyrant. he hates catolicsm but he still acts as if he is a devout catholic.

        why? to fool the masses. typical.

        millions dies in germany while catholic priests did.nothing. thats a fact.

        nationality a.choice? technically yes but is it that easy to change your.nationality compared to your religion?

        bottomline: catholicsm sucks. end of story

      • Lolek Pugeda

        So first you say nationality is not a choice then you say it is. Then you say Hitler is a Catholic only to admit he hated Catholicism. Your credibility never existed but if it did it would have decreased. Also, you say Catholic priests did nothing have you ever considered the possibility that they were part of the millions that died?

  • speaksoftlylove

    Come to think of it.

    If the yellowcluelessvultures really believe in the palace’s surveys as well as all those politicians led by Lagman, the Cayetanos, Legarda, Escudero, Santiago etc. who approved the RH Law that more than 80% of the population approved the measure then they will not fear this “Catholic Vote” which they also alleged to be non existent.

    I repeatedly posted that the frantic reaction of PNoy and his cohorts against the “Team Patay” espoused by the Catholic Church is proof enough that those SWS and Pulse Asia surveys are manufactured and therefore fraudulent.

    • AntiAko

      Isa ka pa. Kahit ako eh ayaw nung Team Patay/Buhay campaign dahil I find it offensive for the Catholic Church to involve itself in partisan politics. That has nothing to do with surveys.

      There is no Catholic Vote. If there is then those in the Team Patay should not be figuring well in the surveys. The Catholic Vote is but an illusion of a church still dreaming of its heydays when it wielded absolute power over everyone. And it is kept alive by people like you who have such myopic views of issues.

      Shame on you and your church.

  • latino_boom

    PRO RH HERE WILL STILL VOTE FOR THE ONE WHO SUPPORTS THE RH BILL…I WILL DEAL WITH MY SOUL LATER AFTER WHEN I DIE…COZ THE GOD I KNOW IS FORGIVING AND UNDERSTANDING…I DON’T KNOW WITH THE CATHOLIC PRIEST

    • txtman

      SURE PALA KAYO EH
      BAKIT KAYO GALIT?
      HINDI BA DAPAT KUKUYAKUYAKOY NA LANG KAYO NIYAN?
      HAYAAN NA NINYO CATHOLIC CHURCH
      SABI NGA NINYO
      KAYO NA WINNER
      PITIFUL
      AHAHAHA

  • AntiAko

    BITTER-BITTERAN? Hanggang ngayon?!

  • echo

    BLAH..BLAH..BLAH
    RAH..RAH..RAH
    AWW..AWWW.AWW
    GRRR..GRRR,..(tulo laway)
    NGAH..NGAH..NGAH
    thats me..
    PITBULL.
    AHAHAHA.

  • hustlergalore

    team patay, team buhay.. kamusta naman ang mga pinatay nung inquisition? kamusta naman si joan of arc? LOL matapos nilang patayin, ginawang santa.

    and this whole sainthood thing is actually a political convenience, no! teka paano ako napunta doon! LOL

  • ARIKUTIK

    Politicians are deemed sinners, none of them can be considered saint. Therefore the saintly church must NOT endorse any politician but only reveal who are the evil candidates. “Team Patay” of “Team Penoy” are poisoners of poor Filipinos for the enjoyment of greedy rich.

    Greed is evil and to kill others is evil. RH poison pill kills both the mother and her baby. But will ONLY be inflicted to poor Filipinos. “Team Patay” are evil candidates.

  • JOHNCeneza

    Guys and Ladies, let us stop this throwing of dirt against one another. Let us approach this problem logically and with an open mind. The problem is really about the overpopulation among the marginalized sectors of our population which is exponentially compounding the problem generations after generations. This government is facing the prospect of unending increase on the cost of basic social programs for the foreseeable future depriving funding for more advance social projects. Most of us if not all agree that, something should be done.
    The Leaders of the Roman Catholic church is advocating natural planning method for many years now, the problem is that minimal/nothing is really done to promote and encourage family planning using natural planning method among the most affected sectors, or the campaign doesn’t get through, hence effects is minimal and the problem is still there.
    Our current Government is advocating all methods depending on the preference of the couple. The only difference now is that with RH, the Government is preparing to back the program with funding and programs to actively promote them. but before RH can take off, leaders of the RCC are actively campaigning against it.

    For me the natural planning method is still there, nobody is prohibiting it, the RCC leadership should use its campaigning/ministerial might in actively promoting that method, if it works in solving the overpopulation problem then the government will not need to present other methods. Else, the Government have the social responsiblity on its every citizen for the improvement of their lives.

  • ztefertilizerscam10

    STOP DONATING YOUR MONEY TO THE CORRUPT BISHOP..

    The Bank Investments Of Different Dioceses

    Diocese / Church Foundation Company # Shares Owned Rank in Top 100 Total Investment Value

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 222,843,681 4th PHP12.724 Billion

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (REAL CASA DE MISERICORDIA) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 41,408,841 8th PHP2.364 Billion

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA (HOSPITAL DE SAN JUAN DE DIOS) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 22,072,182 13th PHP1.26 Billion

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (HOSPICIO DE SAN JOSE) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 6,016,624 15th PHP343.55 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (HOSP DE SA JUAN DE DIOS) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 4,285,572 17th PHP244.71 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (MAYORDOMIA DELA CATEDRAL) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 2,664,266 21st PHP152.13 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (ST. PAUL`S HOSPITAL) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 1,772,418 26th PHP101.21 Million

    CARMEL OF THE DIVINE INFANT JESUS OF PRAGUE, INC. Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 726,819 49th PHP41.50 Million

    EL SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION FILIPINA DE PADRES AGUSTINOS RECOLETOS Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 551,382 60th PHP31.48 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF JARO Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 491,385 64th PHP28.06 Million

    EL SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION FILIPINA DE PADRES AGUSTINOS RECOLETOS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 2,370,000 31st PHP260.70 Million

    SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION ARCHICOFRADIA DE N.P.J.N DE RECOLETOS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 1,234,603 75th PHP135.81 Million

    CARMEL OF THE DIVINE INFANT JESUS OF PRAGUE, INC. San Miguel Corp (SMC) 957,516 79th PHP105.33 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TUGUEGARAO San Miguel Corp (SMC) 856,639 81st PHP94.23 Million

    REAL MONASTERIO DE LA PURISIMA CONCEPCION DE NUESTRA MADRE SANTA CLARA DE MANILA San Miguel Corp (SMC) 809,834 83rd PHP89.08 Million

    SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION DE PADRES RECOLETOS POR BECAS Y VOCACIONES San Miguel Corp (SMC) 621,702 89th PHP68.39 Million

    CARMEL OF ST THERESE OF THE CHILD JESUS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 592,956 91st PHP65.23 Million

    THE DISCALCED CARMELITE NUNS OF CEBU San Miguel Corp (SMC) 451,864 95th PHP49.71 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF NUEVA SEGOVIA DE VIGAN San Miguel Corp (SMC) 428,067 98th PHP47.09 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA Philex Mining Corp (PX) 3,221,135 15th PHP66.68 Million

    RELIGIOUS OF THE VIRGIN MARY – B Philex Mining Corp (PX) 3,125,777 16th PHP64.70 Million

    RELIGIOUS OF THE VIRGIN MARY-A Philex Mining Corp (PX) 1,091,027 69th PHP22.58 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TUGUEGARAO Ayala Corporation (AC) 24,015 73rd PHP9.29 Million

    KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS FRATERNAL ASSOCIATION OF THE PHILS, INC. Ayala Corporation Preferred Shares – A (ACPA) 60,000 2nd PHP31.80 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TAGBILARAN Ayala Corporation Preferred Shares – B (ACPR) 10,000 64th PHP1.02 Million

    DAUGHTERS OF CHARITY OF ST. VINCENT DE PAUL PHINMA Corp. (PHN) 159,575 19th PHP2.12 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF THE DIOCESE OF JUAN DE DIOS PHINMA…

  • ztefertilizerscam10

    Priest who had sex with boys now tells how to smuggle ivory

    National Geographic‘s new issue exposes the ivory business, which has been hiding in plain sight since a worldwide trade ban was enacted in 1989. And a major player in the magazine’s story is a priest in the Philippines whom I wrote about in 2005 when investigating another global-trafficking phenomenon — the Catholic Church’s movement of sexual abuse suspects across international borders to escape justice.

    The priest, Monsignor Cristobal Garcia, is now quoted as explaining how to smuggle ivory into the United States: “Wrap it in old, stinky underwear and pour ketchup on it.” And if an icon won’t fit in a suitcase? Here’s how National Geographic‘s Bryan Christy summarizes Garcia’s advice: “I might get a certificate from the National Museum of the Philippines declaring my image to be antique, or I could get a carver to issue a paper declaring it to be imitation or alter the carving date to before the ivory ban.”

    Garcia also made provocative comments when I interviewed him about why he fled the U.S. in 1985. He admitted having sex with altar boys and supplying them with drugs

  • ztefertilizerscam10

    The Catholic sex abuse cases are a series of convictions, trials and investigations into allegations of child sexual abuse crimes committed by Catholic priests and members of Roman Catholic orders against children as young as 3 years old with the majority between the ages of 11 and 14

  • ztefertilizerscam10

    GlorIa bribed to Mitsubishop and Safari

    Butuan City Bishop Juan de Dios Pueblos, who received a Mitsubishi Montero, Bontoc-Lagawe Bishop Rodolfo Beltran (Nissan Pathfinder), Abra Bishop Leopoldo Jaucian (Mitsubishi Strada), Cotabato Archbishop Orlando Quevedo (Toyota Grandia Hi-Ace), Basilan Bishop Martin Jumoad (Mitsubishi Strada), Zamboanga Archbishop Romulo Valles (Toyota Grandia Hi-Ace); and Nueva Segovia Archbishop Ernesto Salgado (Isuzu Crosswind).

  • mamer2

    I would like to “see” the CHURCH be as forceful..,
    in condemning “corruption” as it has been in its fight against the “RH”.

  • pubringjuandelacruz

    Pro Choice is Anti-Life??? are they portraying the devil and not God?
    God gave Adam and Eve a choice when He made them… are the RCC priests playing gods here!!!

    Pro Choice is Anti-Life… what a moronic statement…

  • Bibiano Ngo

    Yeah, then we will have senators that will try to establish a catholic state, force everyone to go to church, kill the muslims, the cardinal becomes the president…nice…..

  • Nanci Binay

    dapat natin sundin ang mga obispo at kaparian. sila ay mga banal na alagad ng simbahan at alam nila ang tama para sa mga katoliko.

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