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WikiLeaks: US backed MILF

Washington favored MOA-AD, cables show

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US INTEREST IN MINDANAO. Then US Ambassador to the Philippines Kristie Kenney and Moro Islamic Liberation Front chief Murad Ebrahim emerge from a closed-door meeting at Camp Darapanan in Maguindanao on Feb. 19, 2008. EDWIN FERNANDEZ/INQUIRER MINDANAO

Purported secret US Embassy files released by the whistle-blowing WikiLeaks showed that Washington had a direct hand in the ill-fated deal to create a Bangsamoro Juridical Entity in 2008 that critics warned could lead to a dismemberment of the Philippines.

Former Bayan Muna Representative Satur Ocampo said that this “disturbing pattern” of American intervention in the Philippines was apparently triggered by a letter sent by then Moro rebel chief Hashim Salamat to US President George W. Bush on Jan. 20, 2003.

Salamat’s letter, coursed through then US Ambassador Frank Riccardione in Manila, sought assistance in hammering out an agreement between the Philippine government and the separatist Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) on the creation of a Moro homeland.

Ocampo said that that US interest was clearly seen from the terms of the Memorandum of Agreement on Ancestral Domain (MOA-AD), which was declared by the Supreme Court as unconstitutional in 2008, where the funding for socioeconomic projects in Mindanao would be handed over to the World Bank and the US Agency for International Development (USAID).

MOA-AD leaked

Ocampo said the Arroyo administration’s peace negotiators apparently were not too keen on the US involvement that they leaked the MOA-AD a few days before it was supposed to be signed in Kuala Lumpur in August 2008 in the presence of then US Ambassador Kristie Kenney.

The chief Philippine negotiator, General Hermogenes Esperon, apparently gave the document to then North Cotabato Governor Manny Piñol  because the Arroyo administration felt the United States would be getting too much economic power under the deal, said Ocampo. Piñol later went to the Supreme Court to contest the agreement.

“We are therefore appealing to the basic principle of American fairness and sense of justice to use your good offices in rectifying the error that continues to negate and derogate the Bangsamoro People’s fundamental right to seek decolonization under the United Nations General Assembly Resolution No. 1514 (XV) of 1960. For this purpose, we are amenable to inviting and giving you the opportunity to assist in resolving this predicament of the Bangsamoro People,” Salamat wrote to Bush.

Ocampo said that it was no coincidence that two years after Salamat’s plea, the United States held its first official meeting with MILF chairman Murad Ebrahim (as detailed in WikiLeaks 07MANILA3676 cable titled: Muslim Insurgent chairman, Malaysian Facilitator) which was held a year after they met with MILF Vice Chairman for Political Affairs Ghadzali Jafaar (WikiLeaks  06MANILA1747 cable titled: MILF welcomes regular dialogue with US Embassy). Both documents were classified as secret.

US officials have declined comment on the substance or authenticity of the WikiLeaks papers.

Salamat died in 2003 and was replaced by Murad as MILF chief.

Different political interest

“Hashim Salamat’s letter for George Bush to intervene led initially to the USIP’s (US Institute for Peace) interest in Mindanao and then the US Embassy’s direct intervention a few years later as exposed in the WikiLeaks reports. We knew that the US was getting involved in the peace process and we told them (MILF) to be careful because the US had a different political interest. Nobody had proof then but the WikiLeaks reports confirmed the US hand,” Ocampo said in a phone interview.

First official meeting

Ocampo said Salamat’s letter set the tone for the peace agreement as a way for the United States to rectify its “sins” when it ceded Bangsamoro land in Mindanao to its then Philippine colony.

Based on the 07MANILA3676 cable classified as secret, “the first ever official US government meeting with the leader of the Muslim insurgent organization engaged in peace talks with the government” was held in November 2007 inside Camp Darapanan, near Cotabato City.

Gov’t resistance

In her report, Kenney stated: “Our direct engagement is clearly welcomed by all parties and can help pull the complex peace process toward concrete progress, possibly including step-by-step eradication of terrorists from Mindanao.”

Murad, who was described as “friendly, confident and well-versed” and spoke excellent English, “suggested during the meeting that the US sign a protocol supporting the peace agreement along with other countries because he feared that Congress would not give its approval to the deal without international support,” Kenney said.

The WikiLeaks documents showed persistent questions on the constitutionality of the MOA-AD and resistance from “conservative forces” in the Arroyo Cabinet and Congress.

Kenney reported that the government peace panel secretariat director, Ryan Sullivan [name sounds American but he’s Filipino], reported that the government and the MILF panels were divided on governance (MILF wanted specific terms while the government wanted it kept in general terms), political status (MILF wanted to use freedom in the Bangsamoro which the government objected to), and  natural resources (MILF wanted to  have a firm hand in the exploitation of its petroleum and natural gas reserves).

“The US apparently believes that it can do what it wants with Mindanao’s natural resources by dealing with the MILF in the Bangsamoro rather than with the national government,” Ocampo said. “The US is eyeing with interest the potential of Mindanao for oil and gas.”

Jurisdiction

“Since both parties have different concepts of the meaning of   ‘ownership,’ this term was excluded from the draft territorial agreement. In place of ‘ownership,’ the MILF wants to use the phrase ‘jurisdiction and control,’ while the Cabinet wants to limit the language in the text to the word “control.” The phrase “jurisdiction and control” implies greater authority and a recognized right to control strategic resources within the territorial boundaries of a new Muslim political entity,” Kenney said.

“By limiting the language to the term “control,” Sullivan said the government would grant authority to the new Moro political entity to  develop and exploit strategic resources, though such  authority could be taken away under certain circumstances, such as a national emergency. The MILF is apparently concerned that the government could use a calamity or other event as a pretext to take over strategic resources indefinitely, according to Sullivan.”

Aside from getting the details of the MOA-AD, the US Embassy was also advised about a “two-tier advocacy and public relations campaign to prepare for the congressional action/plebiscite required after a territorial agreement is signed.”

Complex issues

“To ensure that the parties stay focused and push the process forward, Mission officials continue to engage the parties at the most senior levels … making clear that the US  strongly supports a peace agreement that will help bring  prosperity to Mindanao and remove safe havens for terrorists,” the report said.

In her commentary, Kenney said: “The slow, sometimes halting negotiation process reflects the complexity of the issues with which the parties are grappling, as well as the complex politics surrounding them. Our contacts continue to report that government and MILF negotiators are working diligently to craft a territorial agreement that not only meets with Cabinet and MILF approval, but passes constitutional muster.

“We continue to press both sides to come to agreement soon on the significant set of governance, territory, and natural resource issues currently under negotiation. Such an agreement would be a significant milestone and open the field for advocacy and increased attention to security issues in the next stage of negotiations.”


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  • Anonymous

    Philippines will always be the land of the “little brown brother” of USA. No wonder we have American soldiers on our soil– in effect- the Philippines is a de facto American territory. So there! Nuff said- rest is just moro moro! Destiny of the country does not lie in the hands of the Filipino people period!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002425074187 Kotono Yuuki

    See Filipino people?  We are alone.  The Uncle Sam that we are looking up to is actually allowing his ‘niece’ to be raped in his own backyard.  When will we ever learn to stand on our own?

  • Anonymous

    The evil genius uncle sam, always have a hand in conflicts everywhere. Create conflict, sell arms, make money! simple 1-2-3

  • Anonymous

    And I thought Americans believe “A good Moro is a dead Moro.”

  • Anonymous

    What a treacherous “ally,” the USA is! They dealt with and continue to deal with Islamic terrorists who wanted to dismember out nation. To think that it was Islamic terrorists like these that brought about 9-11.

  • Anonymous

    What else is new with the Americans? After embroiling us with their war
    against the Japanese (Manila was an open city), they treated our
    veterans as paupers. They stationed their military bases here so that
    should they have another war, the battle will be fought here and not to
    their homeland. They supported Marcos with his crimes against Filipinos
    and only give him up during the last minute of EDSA revolution. The
    Americans has never been our true friend.

  • Anonymous

    Ang nangyayari ay para bang ina-anyayahan mo ang kapit-bahay mo para ayusin ang gulo ng pamilya mo. O, yong kapit-bahay mo, pinakikialamanan ang pagpapatakbo ng buhay ng pamilya mo. Anupaman, hindi dapat nakikialam ang kahit na siunupaman sa pagpapatakbo ng pamilya ng may pamilya.

    Pero ang mga TNL na mga kano, ang pakikialam sa buhay ng may buhay ang pinagkikitaan nila. Guguluhin kung ano ang tahimik na, tapos pag nagkagulo-gulo na, papapel silang mga LUPON ng TAGAPAMAYAPA at palalabasin nilang sila ang mga bayani sa pag-aayos ng gulo.  

    Pero sa IRAN at CHINA hindi sila makapalag-palag at makagawa ng eksena kasi BISTADONG-BISTADO na ang modus operandi nila at basura na ang tingin ka kanila.  BAKIT hindi natin magawa ang ganun?  Kasi wala tayong armas at mas maraming mga kabayan na madaling makorap ng atik kaysa hindi.

  • Anonymous

    Something does not add up with this revelation from Ocampo via Wikileaks. The U.S. in 2008 talked or negotiated (unilaterally) with the MILF at their behest to atone their sins for ceeding Bangsamoro to the Phil. colony? ——> BULLSHIT!

    The U.S. is at war with Muslim terrorism big time since 9/11, so ask yourself what advantage would they gain for doing such a thing?? This is a kuwentong kutsero that can only be concocted by uninformed stupid filipinos like Satur Ocampo.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002425074187 Kotono Yuuki

      Well, the USA is trying to get back its prestige after the Afghan and Iraq wars by supporting these rebels.  Yun din ang dahilan kung bakit suportado nila ang Palestinian State kahit ally nila ang Israel. Tandaan natin na ang kalaban nila ngayon ay Islamic Fundamentalism kaya nagpapalakas sila sa mga Muslim.

      At yun ang dahilan kung bakit nila ginagawa yun sa mga kakampi nila.  This is a known fact.  If you don’t believe me, that’s your call.  But I suggest that you research and read about this things.  Marami sa internet…kung wala ka makuha ask your PolSci professor.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002425074187 Kotono Yuuki

        *correction ‘these things’.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6V2EHTRN5B345LGOSPBJB77N5E Minda Now

    Bakit kaya palagi meron opinion/interview of  PDI from Leftist group?

  • http://twitter.com/Perdition2012 Rey Gan

    Wala naman dun sa dokumento (Kung genuine nga yun) na nakikialam talaga ang US, iniexaggerate lang nitong kumonista na to.  Malabo e, malabo pa sa pinaglalaban ng Bayan Muna. Yan kasing mga grupo ni Ocampo, ni Casino, at kung sino pang supporter ng NPA, US agad nakikitang maysala.  Dahil sa mga grupong ito, kabilaan na ang pag-atake ng NPA sa ibat-ibang panig ng bansa.  These groups are emboldening the NPA

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYVO5BIPX6WO4IGFRGIQE3P6HY Ruben

    Thailand better watch out.  Kenney may be doing the same things in that country as Ambassador.  

  • Anonymous

    Just like when Uncle Sam created Osama Bin Laden against the Russians in Afghanistan. They make or support wars to craft ‘special’ foreign policy that suits up to their interest.

  • http://twitter.com/PatrickN44 Patrick

    If the US loves meddling in Philippine affairs so much, they should just recolonize the whole country again and enjoy total control by making it the 51st state instead of hiding in the shadows. The Philippines is like the the US’s ex-girlfriend that it won’t completely leave alone and will give a booty call once in a while to see if the sparks are still there. Revelations like this and the GMA- Martial law dilemma make me wonder how truly independent the autonomy of the Philippines is.

    • http://twitter.com/toothpastesales be honest

      In my humble opinion after 9/11 in 2001, U.S. is very concerned about Muslim Extremist/terrorist. It was well known that in Mindanao Muslim terrorist operates there. Some even had training in Afganastan.
      I would think that U.S. wanted peace, as stated in the cable, that “ possibly including step-by-step eradication of terrorist from Mindanao “.
      That would have been best for all.

  • Anonymous

    Why is Kristy McKenny wearing head scarf ?

    In respect of MILF religion ?

    Why not MILF respect Filipinos without wearing head scarf?

    • Anonymous

      Catholic women in the Philippines used to wear “vielo” on their heads when going to church only two generations ago. They don’t anymore. Muslim women just continued wearing theirs.  No big deal.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_72G533O34XV5LTYK5XNJFQZ37E Noel

        Big deal yan, do you know what you’re talking about jabbawookie? Burkas are worn by women in Aghanistan, Pakistan and other extreme islamic countries. By being a woman, one is already considered offensive to the society. Reason why they are covered from head to toe, any flesh exposure is pang-aakit na, ayon sa Sharia law.

        Ikaw kaya ang pag suotin ng veil, ha!

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sokor-Park/100002605297822 Sokor Park

        Or, in the judeo-christian influenced context of the west, kung ikaw ay babae ikaw ay isang sex symbol.  Kaya magtiis ka sa high-heels at magpasilip ka sa ilalim ng palda mo.  At higit sa lahat, kung ikaw ay hindi kasing-puti ni Mama Mary na ating pinipintakasi, isa kang makasalanan (kaya bumili ka na ng Pulbos de Chino na may lead and mercury).  Or if you’re open to other suggestions such as those from Edward Said and Ahmad Rashid, the burqas and hijabs were instituted to protect Muslim women from lecherous French and British colonial soldiers.  Protecting our women is a concept that has been around as early as when we settled down to cultivate the land and domesticate animals.  Sharia came much later.   

      • Anonymous

        Burka ba ang suot ni Kenney sa picture? My comment was in answer to a question about head scarf.  Wala ka na sa contexto, exaggerated ka pa!  Para kang drama queen, Noel!

      • Anonymous

        Problema sa mga Muslims are when you go to their barrio you have to wear what they wear but christians do not impose what they need to wear around christians ….

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EIHP2AUBPSYFSVEYPOVY2HTTPU Copernicus Paziorden

         because Pilipino are more civilize now than before. Even though you hide the whole body of woman and the man´s thinking is not enlighten therefore man will commit barbaric rape. but if you enlighten the mind of men thru education even a woman walk naked infront will no harm!

      • Anonymous

        Amen, to that.  Copernicus Paziorden must be a genius philosopher not because I agree with him because it makes sense.

        Arabs go crazy just by seeing women’s legs.  I don’t because I am used to it.  If people just go naked everyday, there wouldn’t be rape and they take it for granted because it would be natural like seeing women’s knees … 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EIHP2AUBPSYFSVEYPOVY2HTTPU Copernicus Paziorden

         Becuase Christian man today is more educated and civilized man than before. It is useless even you cover the whole body of woman and still the mind of man is animalistic rapist will commit. but if you educate and civilize the mind of every man, even if the woman walk naked they will not harm! Today there are a lot of laws that enfold the woman to protect her so why cover the woman? ONLY ANIMALISTIC MIND WOULD TELL THEIR WOMAN TO COVER!

      • Anonymous

        I walk naked because I do not have malice.  

        Adam and Eve were naked UNTIL THEY SINNED.

        People who wears clothes are sinners, since I am naked, therefore I have no sin I just get arrested for nudity, lewd and lascivious act.  DONCHA LOVE RELIGION ?  IT IS SOOO HYPOCRITICAL … EVEN JESUS CHRIST WAS CLOTHED BECAUSE HE’S A SINNER … 

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wacky-Jabber/100000339298471 Wacky Jabber

        Jesus Christ never sinned (2 Cor 5:21), but took all the sins of the world that we MAY be saved IF we believe in Him and accept that sacrifice/gift of salvation.

        Which Bible have you been reading? Can you quote your source/basis in the Bible?

      • Anonymous

        There is only one bible, right?  The bible-that-cannot-be-interpreted-literally?  Yes, I interepreted the Bible according to my views, like your congregation interpret it so they can scam you of your money and they get rich-quick !  

        So, your interpretation is different from mine.  Bible is free for all interpretation.  And stop quoting verisculos 2 cor 5:21 HAR! HAR! HAR!HAR!HAR!

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wacky-Jabber/100000339298471 Wacky Jabber

        WHERE did you get that interpretation from? You are making things up without basis!

      • Anonymous

        I interepret on my own … there are other gazillions of itnerpretations out there.  WHAT IS STOPPING ME FROM GIVING MY TAKE OF THE BIBLE ?  

        Satan is meek and the meek shall inherit the earth.
        Muslims and Christians kill.  Satan don’t kill to make them believe in him.  Satan is goot!

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wacky-Jabber/100000339298471 Wacky Jabber

        You interpret what you read. If you do not read the Bible, how can you interpret it? Catholics like to invent things that are not in the Bible:  purgatory, limbo, penance, indulgences, the papacy, idol worship, Mary as a goddess (she is without sin, but Jesus is?)

      • Anonymous

        Wacky has another interpretation: 1) Catholic invent that is not in the bible

        My interpretation: 1) Catholic invent that is not in the bible; 2) Catholic reinvent the meaning of the original intent of the bible to suit their wants and needs; 3) Catholic misinterpret the meaning of the bible to suit their wants and needs; 4) everyone do not understand what they are reading in the bible; 5) what goot in reading fair tale biblical stories if it cannot be interpreted and not literal.

        Therefore, with all of the above, I conjure my own interpretation.  Those who cloth themselves are sinners.  Since I go about naked therefore I am not a sinner !

        HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR!  

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wacky-Jabber/100000339298471 Wacky Jabber

        Again, you cannot interpret what you had not read. Unless you show me your basis, I can only assume that you are making things up or lying. Atheists see nothing wrong in lying because they have no basis for morality in the first place.

        BTW, what grade are you in? Your spelling is atrocious!

      • Anonymous

        Gotcha !  I knew it!  I knew it !  I knew you are not logical because you lookit my planted minefields of wrong spellings and syntax errors.

        Here in the Philippines people lookit englsichtzes like adorable God !  Filipinos are bunch of haughty-snooty-englsichtzes-snobs thinking that if they speakengese goot country-club englsich tzes and impfeckable espellings they thoughting they have high IQ  !  HAR! HAR! HAR! HAr!

        Give it up, dude !  YOU are not not thinking logically !  HAR! HAR! HAR! HAR!

  • Anonymous

    AHA!!!

    Philiippine Government…always keep in mind, the US Government is always after their own interest and the interest of their people. The Philippine Govnt should always be like that too.

    Pero bakit nag Amen si GMA sa kasunduang iyon?… ang interest ni GMA ay ang interest ng GMA.

    • Anonymous

      Exactly!  Just like during Typhoon Ondoy you simpleton!

      • Anonymous

        ” …simpleton!” o ow, somebody here is an all-knowing airhead.

  • Anonymous

    why is it that whenever I google “MILF” it directs me to xrated website ?

  • http://twitter.com/RedStarUlrike Paul Smirnoff

    its not entirely about ideology…its about geopolitics. Everything is a game of chess: Diplomacy, Military, everything, even cheating during quizzes and passing over codes are a matter of strategy, Wikileaks simply doing its own job. Why to blame Assange? For he’s doing the right thing?

  • Anonymous

    Hydrocarbons. Crude oil. The areas controlled by the MILF have rich deposits of hydrocarbons. US policy is always dictated by its interests. And its interests include an inexpensive and easy upstream of crude oil. It is far more expensive and difficult to deal with the PH government when exploring and drilling oil in Mindanao rather than with the MILF. Thus their extensive lobbying for PH to legitimize the MILF claims. MILF is just a tool to be used by the US. They’re more interested in hydrocarbons. That’s the key to the “Moro question”.

  • Anonymous

    The Filipinos, at least the government, is blind. The imperialist american doesn’t care whatever happen to your country’s sovereignty. For all i’ts talked about friendship, about care of the Filipino interest, about being an ally and special relations of the two countries exist, what they really care about is their selfish interest. It’s only the puppet Philippine Military who benefits from US so called special relations and friendship, because, after all It was the american colonizer who organized and established the Arm Forces of the Philippines just like what they have done to a Iraq( a carbon copy of american occupation and pacification drive in the Philippines), almost a century ago. So now, everybody should understand where the loyalty of the AFPwe lies, not with the country, but with who has the money.

    • Anonymous

      Arao, Bakit kaya tinawag na “Kampo Heneral Emilio Aguinaldo” ang punong himpilan ng AFP, kung talagang kano ang bumuo ng AFP? Si Heneral Emilio Aguinaldo ang hinuli ng kano sa Norte.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GURBWYA3AIXC22EF6E6HIHRNQE Ornbort Vortingeresdemesus

        ..after he helped them win the philippines and executed bonifacio to boot? wonderful isn’t it?

  • rnold rmada

    “The US is eyeing with interest the potential of Mindanao for oil and gas”. What else is new? When it comes to these 2 very important resources, US can always look the other way and won’t even blink.

  • Anonymous

    that is also why US did not declare MILF as a terrorist group……..may tunay ba na demokrasya ang pilipinas at wala na sa pagkakahigpit na hawak ng agila ng US?

  • Anonymous

    DIVIDE and rule…..

  • Anonymous

    Conspiracy theory courtesy of Ocampo, and yet it enjoys a headline page of the PDI.

  • Anonymous

    “the funding for socioeconomic projects in Mindanao would be handed over to the World Bank and the US Agency for International Development (USAID)”, instruments of the New World Order to enslave the Filipinos and steal their resources.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HT55HQA7GDK746YPHVBBNVNPFI Will

    In 2008 during the meetings in Kuala Lumpur at the eleventh hour before the signing of the agreements the United States did step in and the deal was off. At least that’s how it was spun. No doubt that the MILF had wanted more autonomy from RP in Manila. A major point in the agreement would have allowed the autonomous region’s government to set up contracts and treaties without RP’s approval in Manila. This would’ve allowed the ARMM to do business with the United States, Saudi Arabia or anyone else who could pony up the money for oil and gas rights in the region. A lot of revenue would’ve bypassed the pockets of those politicians in the north. It’s about everyone getting their cut, their piece of the pie. But as far as I’m concerned what has the northern part of the Philippines done for the south lately? Without Mindanao, market prices for food commodities would be unstable. Yet those from Luzon still regard those from Mindanao as inferior and as “other”. The United States and other NGOs are already in the region trying to improve it yet where is Malacanang and the rest of the RP government? They’re too busy filling their own coffers to care.

  • Anonymous

    of course they backed up milf; look, they also back up the libyan rebels, didn’t they?

  • Anonymous

    As a propensity of leftists, Satur Ocampo seems to have stretched the meaning of those Wikileak files, but at the very least, the heightened activity between MILF and US is suspect. It was only Malaysia that openly declared its assistance to the peace process between GRP and MILF, yet based on these Wikileak files, US was secretly very keen, and even went to the extend of her ambassador meeting the MILF Chief. Now, that is not the work of an alleged ally of the Philippines.

  • Anonymous

    A destabilization move to split every thinking Filipino politically and this time using muslim agenda. The presence of U. S ambassador Kenny in Mindanao now is the reason why the president held a meeting with Ebrahim Murad in Japan. U.S economic interest in Mindanao is the sole convincing reason one can assume.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IOQ4UHZ3OCDDBDOWCA5O3AEQBM Cayetano

    The documents will show that USA is interested only to protect their interest. However it will also depend on the assigned official preferences on which side they will support but nevertheless we will be prepared on whatever outcomes. Here in Mindanao, we had already know that their are plans by foreign powers to divide the entire island. You will notice it on the movements of ODA of foreign countries and their NGO’s. It is not only the USA but also EU, OIC headed by Saudi Arabia that are interfering our internal affairs. Japan, Korea and Chinese are purely commercial business  . It maybe cause of it’s resources that they are interested of or something related to religious affiliation. . it’s a plot that we are beginning to comprehend. The national government should be aware of their true intentions if not then their will be War in Mindanao.

  • http://twitter.com/MarLouWang Marlou Wang

    Napaka-unggay talaga nitong KKenney na ito!! Ba’t kaya naging ambassador yan? Peace daw!?! Peace-in niya ang a*r*i niya nang matauhan siya! Sa palagay kaya niya papayag ang mga kristiyano doon na mapasailalim ng pamamahala ng muslim? Lalong dadanak ang dugo! Sipsip buto lang iyan si KKenney, tingnan niyo ambassador na sa Thailand. Magaling talagang sumipsip. Mabuti na lang nailawan ito ni Satur. 

  • Anonymous

    The Muslims must be trying to exploit George W’s genuine stupidity and kabobohan..he he he. All is fair in love and war.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001617799925 Castor Troy

    In the end it’s all about oil and  profit not about peace. Both sides seems too greedy. Let’s just hope that the money coming from it would be used to lift peoples lives. Not for arms or just enriched some powerful personalities.

  • John

    Even if we check before the transmigration period in the 60′s,  Mindanao is not all Bangsamoro land.  There are a lot of indigenous people in the area, to name a few, Bagobo, Manobos, Mandaya, Tiboli.  Islam is brought to the Mindanao shores, and is not indigenous. 
    Why do they want to have a substate? Is it not due to the greed of their leaders?  It is not yet the time for them to be autonomous. Look at all the peolple of these species who were in the government position. It is a monotone…..same feathers….same corrupt.    The Muslim people in general had already merged peacefully with their Christian brothers in several major cities in Mindanao. 

    • Anonymous

      Yan na nga ang sinasabi ko noon and I agree with you. Ang buong akala nitong mga Muslims na ito (MILF) ay sila lang meron karapatan magkaroon ng sub-state. Kung ang indigenous people dyan ay magkaroon din ng interest para magkaroon ng sarili nilang sub-state gaya ng gustong mangyari ng MILF, paano na ang Pinas? Di watak watak at yan siguro ang balak ng America para lalong humina ang sovereignty ng Pilipinas. I don’t think it is proper to succumb to the wishes of the MILF for a sub-state. If this happens, I’m sure many of the Christians in Mindanao will again regroup and re-arm themselves if threatened. There were instances in the past when some members of the MILF burned a village in Cotabato province. They don’t want any intimidation and harassment to happen again.

      • John

        That is why Estrada still won in that area in the last presidential election. People there are thankful for what he had done, because their life was miserable before his campaign.

  • Anonymous

    Whatever it is,this government must not allow the dismemberment of the country.Let these rebels embrace the Phl flag and abide by the constitution and laws of the land,NO IFs and BUTs and no intervention from other countries.This is a domestic problem and only Filipinos can solve these issues.

  • Anonymous

    What will you expect now at this time and in the future from a country (USA), where the President (Obama) is muslim ??

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EQSZXYMC25U3UNO5426WNK2NNQ bubuwit

      kuya binasa mo ba yun article…..si Bush pa ang presidente non… para ka namang republican sa pinas…he3x

  • Anonymous

    I have nothing against some of our good Muslim brothers. But there are others whose only motive is to rise above the Christians. If this sub-state is granted, I have a strong feeling that the Bangsa Moro People will impose the Shariah Law in its jurisdiction. Do you think the Christians, especially those who are covered by the sub-state,  will like this? I don’t think so. So ang mangyayari dyan, walang katapusan na gulo gaya ng nangyayari ngayon sa West Bank, Gaza Strip at Israel. Pinagbigyan ng Israel many times before ang mga Palestinians, andun par rin yung hatred nila at di ito maalis. Meron talaga silang secreta agenda na sila lang ang nakakaalam. Yan ang dapat nating alamin kung ano talaga ang secreta agenda ng MILF.

    • Anonymous

      Hey, Shariah Law is only applicable to Muslim, therefore not applicable to non-Muslim. Ignorance..Muslim have not ambitioned to be over the Christian, I don’t know what you mean. The problem with Israel is occupation, building settlement in Palestine, land grabbing, destruction of Arab heritage and making it again to make more Jewish heritage. Same with the Philippines in 1960s, driving Ilocanos, Cebuanos, Boholahos to go to Mindanao for green pasture depriving indigenous and Moro. Simple solution is to get out from Mindanao and leave them alone.

      • Anonymous

        Paano mo masasabing applicable lang ang Shairah law sa mga Muslims? Kung ang ilan sa ating mga kababayan Christians ay naka tira sa Bangsa Moro sub-state, di ba kaya sila obligahin na sumunod sa patakaran ng MILF. Kasi ang magiging katuwiran ngayon ng namumuno dito ay dapat sumunod ang sino mang nakatira doon sa sub-state na yan. I honestly believed that there is no more need for any sub-state at this point in time since ARMM is already there. Under ARMM, anybody can co-exist without regard to any impending laws that could only be detrimental to the interests of the Christians and other peace-loving Muslims. Ikaw ang ignorante kasi ang akala mo ay kaya mong hawakan ang kaisipan ng ilang opisyales ng MILF kung sakali matuloy itong sub-state na ito. I strongly believed that under this sub-state, anyone who lives under its jurisdiction will have to follow its laws. 

  • Anonymous

    Hanggang ngayon di mo maalis sa kaisipan nila na sila ay underdogs. Di naman siguro tama yun. Kung me ilang mga Christians na nagaalipusta ng mga kapatid nating Muslims, di naman siguro lahat sang-ayon sa kanilang ginagawa. Why can’t the Muslims and Christians just co-exist? They are allowed to run in elections, what else do they want? There is already the ARMM, what else?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VBFHX6G6YH3ZMZWKUZA7JISX74 Saul

      muslims have different culture and laws..mga muslim lang naman ang nagsasabi na inaalipusta sila, pumunta ka sa mga muslim community dito sa metro manila especially sa quiapo, makikita mo kung gaano sila kayabang pag nasa teritoryo nila, kung inaalipusta yang mga yan di hindi sana nakapag tayo ng small communities outside of mindanao..nagiging untouchable na nga mga yan kasi konting issue laban sa isang muslim sasabihin agad inaapi..yung congressman na nanapak ng sekyu muslim yun..mabigat yata talaga kamay nila..

      • Anonymous

        Kaya ang masasabi ko dyan ay dapat siguro subukan ni Rep. Pangandaman na makipaligsahan na lang sya sa boxing arena para malaman nya kung gaano kasakit ang tamaan ng suntok sa mukha at ibang parte ng katawan. Ang sa akin lang ganito. Bakit naman ayaw nyang mag pa check ng kanyang sasakyan? Meron ba syang tinatago doon sa loob ng kanyang kotse na mga illegal na bagay. Ako ay hindi nagbibintang pero kung ganito ang kanyang adhikain sa buhay na akala mo Dyos sya ay dapat hwag na syang mag congressman. Isa pa nakakasira lang sya sa imahe ng Congress. Eh, talagang trabaho lang ng isang security guard ang mag check ng ano mang kotse na papasok sa loob ng premises ng building sa UP Technohub. Kahit pa sabihin nating isa sya sa mga stockholders doon, hindi dapat ganun ang kanyang ugali which is unbecoming of a legislator. Dapat siguro imbestigahan yan at kung mapatunayan sa ginwa nga nya ang panununtok ay dapat lang syang alisin sa pwesto. I have doubts in my mind that anybody who is being confronted by someone who is about to pull a gun would only retaliate with a sheaf of paper. Kung ako man ang nasa situation, it’s either na tumakbo ako or bumunot din ako kung me dala rin lang ako. That’s human instinct.  
        Isa pa itong Eagle Security Agency kung saan connected itong security guard na ito ay dapat naman magbigay ng moral support man lang sa kanilang tauhan na nalalagay sa alanganin. Ang problema sa ilang mga security agencies ay iwas pusoy din sa obligasyon nila. That’s unacceptable.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sokor-Park/100002605297822 Sokor Park

    I respect the right of the local and indigenous population of Mindanao to self-determination.  But for the Americans to now play the good guys leaves a very bad taste in the mouth.  During the American colonial period, the Americans initiated the waves of transmigration of people from Luzon and Visayas to Mindanao resulting in land grab and displacement of indigenous population.  All for the glory of American agri-industrial business which to this day still exists in the form of Del Monte and Dole and their deadly chemicals.  After creating generations of grief and trouble for the people of Mindanao, the Americans are suddenly the upright and righteous?  What an effed up world we live in. 

  • Anonymous

    Well its been planned long time ago, America wants ‘MUSLIM and CHRISTIAN’ fights until such time that philippine government cannot control the situation, then America will come in and say’s we will get back our island because Phil government cannot control it. America is very much interested in gas ‘deuterium’ deposit in Philippine deep sea in Surigao. So people in mindanao stay then by 2030 mindanao will be one of the U.S protectorate island. . . .but you gonna experienced ‘WAR’ with your fello Muslim and Christian brothers. . .good luck.

  • Anonymous

    It has been planned my brothers. . .America wants the ‘Christian and Muslim’ in Mindanao to kill each other until such time the Philippine government cannot control the situations, then that’s the time America will come in and says we will get back our island Mindanao because Philippine government cannot give peace and order. But the fact is America is only interested to the finest gas ‘deuterium’ which is found in Philippine deep sea in Surigao. So, in 2030 Mindanao will be a U.S protectorate island, that means mindanaoans can travel to America visa free. But people in Mindanao will experience turmoil. . . that how America plans, they dont care if you will die as long as they get what they wants . . .when they get it they will say ‘God bless America’.

  • http://twitter.com/azul_rouge AzulRogue

    It’s good that wikileaks exposed this as it has brought the issue to a greater number of audience. Since the MOA-AD was exposed by then Gov. Pinol, most Mindanaoans are aware of the involvement of the US in the attempt to dismember Mindanao from the rest of the Philippines. The US is involved because there is oil in this deal (Enron is already drilling off Tawi-tawi!). They want to secure it for themselves. Look at what they did to the middle east — they created war in that region to ensure that they secure this particular resource. There is indication that oil resources in Mindanao is quite substantial for the US to go through this length of involving a high official (an ambassador!) in ensuring the dismemberment of Mindanao from the Philippines. That way, they don’t have to deal with Senate and Congress whenever they need to exploit the natural resources there. In short, they will have fewer people to bribe if they’re dealing with just the so-called Bangsamoro govt. Plus they minimize the risk of not getting their way — they got burned when the Senate did not extend the U.S. bases, remember?

    It is high time that the general Filipino population sees the US as acting mainly in their own interest. Press release lang po ang pagtulong nila. For example, ang laki ng US AID na pumapasok sa Mindanao ngayon. Ginagawa nila itong pang-grasa, lalo na sa mga tao na nakatira malapit sa potential oil well sites! Hindi talaga sila interesado sa kapakanan natin, kundi sa sarili nilang kapakanan. Basta okay sila, wala silang pakialam kung ano ang mangyayari sa ibang tao o ibang bansa. Sa isip ng Amerika, “Bahala kayong magpatayan dyan, basta kami maraming pera at maraming langis.” Dahil magpapatayan talaga sa Mindanao kapag nangyari ang gusto ng Amerika. At keber ang Amerika kung mangyayari ito dahil wala namang mamamatay na Kano — mga Pinoy lang naman ang malalagas.

    So bear this in mind, my fellow Filipinos: always treat as highly dubious any kind of help coming from the US. It almost always comes with poison in it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7KFIYZJ5HRF2E6KKSXPQ2RQDEM vic ang

    Never trust the americans!

  • Anonymous

    Two things: One, I’m horrified that the PH government was willing to undertake these proceedings, which involve nothing less than the integrity of the national territory, covertly, excluding from the process the Filipino people, who would probably have had a thing or two to say about the matter. Second — the MILF were willing to deal with George Dubya?? THAT GUY?! WOW.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Choi-Senieres/100000577010205 Choi Senieres

    sa kanila iyong mga salitang homeland homeland eh. wala na iyang americang iyan, lubog na iyan, ang economiya niyan lubog na rin. at saka wala nang naniniwala sa mga hinayupak na mga iyan kasi patay na lahat ang mga taong mapaniwalain sa kanila na ipianganak noong panahong sinakop nila tayo. si kristie kenny albino, ano? susmalusep ang pangit ng balat mo kristie kenny.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5XCWZ5TPADBA7TVTGJEKUK26ZE Kamote Q

    this is what journalism for Inquirer is reduced to, reporting from unverified sources such as wikileaks.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OZ2KAZ2GNWA2PJTJUENERM67XE PHL_Defender

    Many interventions came out because of delay handling to resolve it within Philippine’s authority suppose action.There should be timeline  for every commanding general responsible of the entire operation to totally eradicate the MILF by all means possible, if fail in due time must be replace with competent one if cannot find one then shame to the organization.Just a thought why not having more bombs dropped wherever they may be, but before that announce civilian to leave while the entire target skirting area sorrouned by army & the marines even the police force.

  • Anonymous

    Yan ang americano,  bawat panig kinakausap, para kung sino man ang manalo anduon pa rin sila.  Kung sa kutsilyo double blade.  maski saan ka tumayo, me tama ka.

  • antonioluna

    hangang ngayon marami pa rin ang hindi nakakaalam na hindi naman talaga malaya ang pinas at wala naman talagang planong bitawan ito ng kano dahil sa kanyang strategic location.

    • http://www-blogjosemig200905com.blogspot.com/ Jose Miguel Garcia

      You are right.  The north american invasion of our newly born nation in 1898 which we filipinos defended without any aid from any other nation, triggered the Filipino-North American War.  So potent were our defense forces that the aggressor forces of the most powerful nation in the world, the north americans could not break it for many years.  

      The most powerful nation in the world had to resort to massive kidnappings and extermination of the civilians among us in Batangas, Laguna, Albay, and Samar, for their demand for us of the filipino defense forces to surrender to them.  They tampered with our nationhood and development of Mindanao by developing the Bates Agreement of 1899 with our Muslim brothers in order to disintegrate us, as a nation.  This compelled those of the defense forces among us to give in to their demand to surrender to them.

      700,000 to 1,000,000 of us, filipinos died from this north american invasion in the 1900s.

      Having lost our physical defenses, they took over our resources and institutions.  They tampered with our national developmental code which control the direction of our development.  This tampering damaged even our psychological-sociological capacity to defend ourselves against foreign invaders. That is why today, the north americans are able to violate our nationhood without resistance from us.

      This tampering today with the political and defense development in this part of our nation is just the continuation of the north american invasion they started in 1898.

      We, filipinos of the present generation, we who are the heirs of the founding fathers of our nation including those warriors like Gen Ricarte, Gen Antonio Luna, Gen Sakay, Gen Lukban, and Maj Torres Bugallon, who defended our nation against the bullying kidnappers, United States of the North Americans, must continue to fight the battles they fought until we recover every square centimeter of our inheritance from alien hands.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2RI3LJVGNNED3XPMG7HVMIIO4 Herbert

        Eh bakit nag-exile si Emilio Aguinaldo sa Hong Kong. With stash of cash from US occupants.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BSWXQOH5M7XN56ZY25KH5VYXSE Allan

    The americans intervened again as long as it will benefit them in the future. Time to get rid of this US intervention. Kaya pala matigas ang MILF during the exploratory talks because of  US. the gov’t should deal the MIndanao problems according to terms acceptable to both parties not subservient to the american wish.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YPRHRNF5RI3A3IZGKBXANG3CQM Mourning

    Two things: (1) US backed the MOA-AD not the MILF (misleading title); (2) PGMA group as reported is the one that is not interested in pursuing the agreement contrary to what the cabinet mems have been telling the people. So, sino ba ang may problema?

  • Anonymous

     Two issues:
    1. Wikileaks – Weak Leaks, Gossip Leaks, Wicked Leaks. No amount of news will ever justify Assange’s quest for fame and fortune;

    2. The Muslim issue. I have always maintained in many fora that the Muslim issue is A RELIGIOUS ISSUE and since it is religious OUGHT not to have a bearing on Philippine governance. But that is ideal, the actual is that religion is a part of culture and so the gist is – Stop calling a Muslim part of Mindanao, there is no such thing, just as there is no Christian part of Mindanao. There is only one Mindanao and that is a Philippine Mindanao. What this implies is that, Muslims should be respected everywhere. But, Muslims should also respect Christians. This means that there can be no Bangsamoro Mindanao just as there can be no BangsaChristian Mindanao (maybe other provinces). We understand that religion has its constraints. And these must be confined to their mosques. Everything on the street should be free. Just as in the streets of Manila, anyone can walk with his religion in heart. But that is not so in the dark alleys of Marawi. No one can wear a Christian heart there and expect to live long.

    One solution is to acknowledge the presence of Muslims in our country, and Muslims should acknowledge the presence of Christians in Mindanao. This, if taken as a policy can be translated into several working projects – like language and cultural exchanges and appreciation programs, cultural preservation programs, etc, which can be turned into productive projects while on the general watchful eye of good and credible law enforcement.

    This is workable but by the looks of it, this will take a hundred years, if we start now. The problem is, we are not starting. People still succumb to the phrase Muslim Mindanao and taunt Muslims. There is nothing than can be done with it, but pray. The South China Sea cannot be changed. But the West Philippine Sea is also as unchangeable. Things of this sort.

    • Anonymous

      The Headquarters name, is just a name. It has nothing to with the creation. The Manila international Airport was the original name of the the Philippines international airport, when cory aquino became president, They change it to NAIA. Read your history don’t be a part of a great portion of your people who has no sense or don’t their history. Are you one of them ? What a pity.

    • Anonymous

      Very shallow! Extreme one

  • Anonymous

    The Headquarters name, is just a name. It has nothing to with the creation. The Manila international Airport was the original name of the the Philippines international airport, when cory aquino became president, They change it to NAIA. Read your history don’t be a part of a great portion of your people who has no sense or don’t their history. Are you one of them ? What a pity.

    • Anonymous

      Ha? Kahit ano pangalan ng punong kampo ng AFP, pwede? Kahit iyon ginawang bilanggo ng kano (na ayon sa iyon, siyang pinagmulan ng AFP) pwede? Pwede pala magkaroon ng Saddam Hussein International Airport sa Iraq o Camp Bin Laden sa Virginia. Katakataka!

      Wala yata ako alam na Philippines (sic) international airport, Manila International Airport, meron dati.

  • Anonymous

    Hydrocarbons. Crude oil. The areas controlled by the MILF have rich
    deposits of hydrocarbons. US policy is always dictated by its interests.
    And its interests include an inexpensive and easy upstream of crude
    oil. It is far more expensive and difficult to deal with the PH
    government when exploring and drilling oil in Mindanao rather than with
    the MILF. Thus their extensive lobbying for PH to legitimize the MILF
    claims. MILF is just a tool to be used by the US. They’re more
    interested in hydrocarbons. That’s the key to the “Moro question”.

  • Anonymous

    The people of the Philippines SHOULD and MUST put back ERAP…He is the only man who has RESOLVE and solution of the conflict issue in Mindanao…When ERAP ordered then General REYES to neutralised this separatist, US President CLINTON asked ERAP to get back the order YET ERAP just told them SORRY i have made my decision already?
    Not only that ERAP has also the correct solution of the JUETING issue?
    BTW, during the OIL crisis of the CARTER administration…The US was posturing to attacking SAUDI ARABIA because of its OIL…The loyalty of the US to a country BEGINS of the country resources not the democracy slogan.

  • Anonymous

    It is not that widely known, but Filipinos must realize that oil
    deposits in Mindanao can possibly rival that of Brunei’s oil deposits.
    There are very large deposits of crude oil in several areas throughout
    Mindanao, mainly in MILF-controlled areas. This is a huge prize for the
    Philippines, unfortunately, the Americans have its collective eye on
    this prize. The reason they are legitimizing the MILF claim to these
    areas is if the MILF controlled these areas, they would only have to pay
    a small amount for drilling the oil. If PH controls this area, the oil
    then belongs to the PH government, and foreign oil companies will have
    to pay for exploring, drilling and exporting the oil. The Americans simply want to ‘steal’ the oil. And the MILF is being “used” for this robbery.

  • Anonymous

    No to bangsamoro this will be just a start of the separation of our country,
    preserve the Philippine teritories. We are all filipinos those MILF are just
    opportunist inflaming the muslim brothers ignorance. 

     

    There is no such thing as descriminations to muslims, i have muslim friends
    and former classmates from mindanao and they are just the same as me, muslim
    filipinos can succeed in life if he study hard same as the christians do.  Those
    MILF and supporters are the ones who are lazy muslims who did not do anything
    but wants everything.  There is no free meal in this country everyone must
    struggle to succeed if you dont do anything or just plain lazy you will end up
    being exploited ofcourse. 

  • Anonymous

    It’s all about billions of dollars worth of hydrocarbons (ex Crude oil, gas, etc) in MILF-controlled areas in Mindanao. Back in 2002/2003, Mike Enriquez’ Imbestigador was supposed to feature a 3-part series about U.S. activities in Mindanao, including active CIA personnel based in General Santos City, foreign engineers planning to conduct exploration activites in Western Mindanao and overall US policy in Mindanao. Unfortunately, it just showed 1 episode. The remaining 2 episodes were never shown. Why?

  • http://twitter.com/bigg_dawg big dawg

    paglabanin ang MILF at NPA. then we talk with the one left.
    what does Satur do with his pork barrel, buy bullets and shoot Phil soldiers and cops. if these MILF people want to separate, give them an island and bar them from coming over to philippine soil. 
    MILF and NPAs are traitors to the philippine people. never contributed a thing to our country!!!

  • Anonymous

    It is the job of the US to de-stabilize our country so they manipulate us and pick us apart. Remember Iran, Ecuador, Panama, Bolivia, Iraq and Venezuela? These countries were targeted by CIA and US govt. Their presidents were killed and assassinated because they and their people decided to take control of their own countries. So the US came in, overthrow the popular government and install their own man who is sympathetic to US interests. If they cant overthrow the president thru assassination or revolt/uprising, then they will send in the military. in the case of the philippines, since we are Uncle Sam’s little brother, US is more covert: just support the MILF, so we can get the resources we need. At the end of the day, its about resources and labour and cheap access to them. Oil, gold, other minerals, crops, utilities like water and energy, etc. The world is their business, my fellow indio.

  • Anonymous

    The MILF, NPA, et al. are all just puppets of either the military, corrupt officials, and in this case the USA. They think they are fighting their war, well, what they think is for their own liberty. But they will never realise this, those who seek rebellion in these organisations, are usually the narrow minded, the poor, the desperate, and in general those that don’t think about anything that’s outside lets say a 1 meter radius from them… the naive and easily manipulated. Perfect for bullies, conspirators, and the overseeing puppeteer. And for all the “rebels”, the puppeteer in this case I’m afraid is not the god you think who you are fighting for…    

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MZOKC6X7Q52Z4E5VLYNB7GF72Y Kaloy

    The Americans has been doing this kind of intervention worldwide with one consistent objective: As long as their interest is secured and protected they can deal and agree with any body.

    American gain or interest is above all these agreements.

    Some recent examples:

    What they did with the malaysian’ anti-Amrerican sentiments.

    Upheld Marcos brutal & cruel dictatorship rule for almost 2 decades.

    Maintained close association with a corrupt and dishonest Arroyo administration.

  • Anonymous

    Long time ago, I went to General Santos, Mindanao. Some military people told me, Americans are busy doing something in Sarangani province. They are putting hotels and other infrastructure. They even told me that the urban plan of Gensan was US design, the roads, the airport was militarily designed purposes for US interest in case, US will invade Mindanao. And they told me also, a big deposit of oil was discovered by US in Sarangani-Zamboanga bay area. 

    I strongly believed on them.

    • http://www-blogjosemig200905com.blogspot.com/ Jose Miguel Garcia

      It is true that the north americans have built facilities in General Santos that could land and accomodate the largest U.S. military aircrafts and seacrafts.  I have heard this from people living in that area and read it from documented reports.  The fact is, these are all a continuation of the north american invasion of our nation in 1898.  The difference then and now is that, there was a war then because we defended our nation.  Now, there is no more war because we are not defending our nation despite of their continued invasion.  Why?  

      It is because when many of us in the defense forces of Filipinas gave in to the demand of the north americans for us to surrender to them since they resorted to massive kidnap for ransom and extermination of the civilians among us, we have lost our physical defenses.  It is because as a result of the U.S. invasion, 700,000 to 1,000,000 of us filipinos died, the potency of our national will to preserve our nationhood which was inherent in our organic national developmental code was altered and weakened.

      As a result of this weakened defense system against foreign invasion, the north americans were able to take over all of our systems including our defense, political, and above all our educational system.  The pattern of development crystalized and replaced our own national developmental code which instructs direction of our development.  This explains why we filipinos lost our bond with the filipinos as a nation, lost the instinct to defend our nation against foreign invaders as we despise our own nation, worship foreigners and become dependent on them.  This explains why having lost the existence of our own nation, we have instinctively identified foreigners particularly the north americans and the chinese as substitute for our national father figure.  

      About the chinese, in the 1900s when we were supposed to have been born as a nation in 1898, we regarded chinese who entered our nation after that year as foreign invaders.  Thus we resisted their having infiltrated and taken over control of our economy.  However, the north americans, who were already at that time in control of our nation, blocked all our moves to stop chinese entry and wrestle control of our economy.  This explains why today, our potency to defend ourselves against their continued invasion have also become weak.

      The only way we can recover ourselves from continued control by foreigners is by being aware of our identity not as individuals, which is what our invaders have done to us to disintegrate us.  The only way we can recover our wholesome nation which did exist, and which was the peak of our nationhood is to know our identity as a nation.  We were born as a nation in 1898.  This was the peak of our unity, nationalism, and standard for excellence.  This was proven in the 1900s when we defended our nation against foreign invaders.  Let us recover our inheritance.

    • Anonymous

      aba, there is more to it than meets the eye. pnoy must be more on guard. the u.s. can do anything to meet its end and can sacrifice luzon by instigating war between northern and southern islands leaving visayas to its decision as to where it would give its support.

  • Anonymous

    If MILF wanted to have substate, US will in fact govern the substate, and not the Moros.

    That is an agreement, I guessed. Because of large deposit of oil.

    No wonder they included Palawan. It is because Spratlys is part of Palawan.

    • Anonymous

      that can be true but the u.s. would be running a puppet government.

  • Anonymous

    I even have a theory before. Pilipinos wanted to be part of US, a state of US. But US is not interested in the entirety of the pHilippines,

    US is only interested in Mindanao. And that theory is coming to light as truth.

    • Anonymous

      ha? or is it the other way? pardon me, but i learned that caliber 45 was made by the americans precisely for the moros. they found some difficulties in subjugating them.

  • http://twitter.com/judefawley Jude Fawley

    WOW i never thought of this. Is this for real? Americans backing the Bangsamoro against the Philippine government? Hay naku, you can never trust Uncle Sam hahaha. So what now? We are in conflict with the Chinese over the Spratly and now the americans are giving us reason to be suspicious with them too? Ang Pinas nga naman parang bola, pinag papasapasahan ng mga dayohan.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2RI3LJVGNNED3XPMG7HVMIIO4 Herbert

    Pera-pera lang ang kapalmuks ng mga M.I.L.F. na yan.

  • Anonymous

    Some of our countrymen still think that the Americans are our big brothers looking after our best interest. That unlike the Chinese, Americans will not take advantage of us because as one poster puts it – Americans are “puritanical”. Do not be so naive.  Americans are only after their own interest. We should learn to stand on our own 2 feet rather than depend on foreigners. After all Filipinos are as intelligent and smart as the best of them. If only we can get our act together and get rid of our selfishness, superstitions and inferiority complex while demanding accountability from our leaders and start executing the corrupt.

  • Anonymous

    now that coa has lifted the pre-audit in govt. transactions, isn’t it obvious that it succumbed to the wishes of the politicians? Isn’t it obvious that COA is nowhere in the vision of Pnoy’s matuwid na daan?  why feign corruptions on auditors when corrupt auditors are always corrupt even if there’s no pre-audit. COA leaders failed miserably in their studies when they used as alibi that there were low percentages of quantities denied by auditors during their pre-audit. They failed to see that even if there’s only one single transaction if it amounts to millions and the auditor had successfully prevented the irregularity of such payment in pre-audit, that would be significant enough to not lift the pre-audit! COA leaders failed to account for the big savings that were generated out of the pre-audit and it just lifted pre-audit outright on the bases of wrong data, wrong assumptions and wrong presumptions against their own COA auditors! COA leaders should be investigated in congressional hearings for failing to heed the citizenry on their cry for transparency, ‘right’ directions and ‘right’ visions! COA leaders should be reminded that not all correct perceptions would lead to right decisions!  and incorrect perceptions would lead to wrong decisions!  COA leaders please do something right!

  • Pablo Juan

    to Ka Satur: were you born yesterday? the US meddles everywhere and you know what? some people want the US to meddle in their country’s affairs too.. ask John Perkins.

  • Anonymous

    Estrada was right. Our territorial integrity is non-negotiable. US and other industrialized nations favor Milf sub-state where they could extract a better deal on the potential oil and minerals in mindanao.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WWZMSQ4Z74QJUPXFOMEKD6KKFM kronos

    This is about time that we should not just follow everything the US wants us to do.  They meddle in all countries where they would derive benefit from it.  If none, they just leave you all to die in poverty.

  • Anonymous

    The Wikileaks expose, for whatever it’s worth, bring many
    realities into the open, and presents true transparency for all, especially
    government, in facing critical issues. Long before these Wikileaks expose, it’s
    an open secret that the US is involved in many covert activities in many
    countries. One such infamous covert activity involved retired U.S. Marine Corps
    officer Oliver North and the Iran-Contra affair. All these info should now be
    used prudently and with careful sensitivity to all stakeholders with emphasis
    to the Pinoy’s welfare and PH’s sovereignty considerations. Negotiators must be
    able to view issues by putting themselves in many shoes. At the end of the day,
    agreed terms must be for the benefit of the Pinoys and our Muslim brothers, not
    any other foreign entities. Americans, more than they’re willing to admit, no
    longer enjoy monopoly of global foreign policy. Pinoy leadership should ensure Pinoys
    are able to take care of themselves against malicious foreign agenda. Kahit
    papaano, mey pakinabang pa rin talaga si HUDAS, di po ba? So, in our peace negotiations
    with the MILF, it should be clear HUDAS care,  HUDAS manipulating, HUDAS count . . . HUDAS is
    always in the details . . .
     

  • Anonymous

    It is not that widely known, but Filipinos must realize that oil
    deposits in Mindanao can possibly rival that of Brunei’s oil deposits.
    There are very large deposits of crude oil in several areas throughout
    Mindanao, mainly in MILF-controlled areas. This is a huge prize for the
    Philippines, unfortunately, the Americans have its collective eye on
    this prize. The reason they are legitimizing the MILF claim to these
    areas is if the MILF controlled these areas, they would only have to pay
    a small amount for drilling the oil. If PH controls this area, the oil
    then belongs to the PH government, and foreign oil companies will have
    to
    pay for exploring, drilling and exporting the oil. The Americans simply
    want to ‘steal’ the oil. And the MILF is being “used” for this robbery. Billions of dollars worth of oil for the taking.

    • white scorpion

      not only that. there is one more fuel being eyed by the us. this kind of fuel is not yet being extracted for use.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EFLNNS5RGAE642T54RABBQ7FXA Boy Mcdo

    buking na buking , trans: very evident that the US  funds the MILF and its terrorism campaign in mindanao. If only Erap is a smart guy, he would have eradicate these bandits during his term. Sayang…

  • Tyopando

    Again, the invisible hand is not so invisible now thanks to Wikileaks……US government back biting their allies to for their own gain…..nobody is surprised……

    Buti na lang hindi natuloy ang MOA-AD…..

    • Anonymous

      yeah it’s a good thing! and if the wikileaks is to be believed, the GMA admin leaked the MOA-AD to other parties that eventually got to the Supreme Court who stopped it! very interesting backstory!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JLRNTEZ23OJX4TSGHOOHAOKPR4 acro

    pansariling interest ng U.S.ang habol nila at kung saan sila may pakinabang doon papanig kahit ano ang mangyari  

  • Anonymous

    the M.I.L.F. should have been eradicated long ago tsk!

  • Anonymous

    I would have believed the story if I haven’t seen this as a form of propaganda for the communist group.  This is America bashing at its worst!  Quite preposterous, really!  US presence in Mindanao is nothing more than the desire of the USA to help out Philippine troops combat terrorist groups in that region and to keep an eye on Indonesia.  Indonesia is the largest concentration of muslims in the whole world, in case you people doesn’t know this!  It is quite ironic to accept as logical for the USA to sacrifice its special relationships with the government of the Philippines in exchange for an unstable non-existent leaderships of the MILF – to gain prospective energy concessions with the MILF if they acquired sub-state status?  Ridiculously absurd!  America may be a greedy sanofavitch but it is not stupid enough to align its foreign policy on a group of dissatisfied elements in moroland!  Try another trick!  

    • Anonymous

      So they attacked Iraq for revenge for 9/11 where all the hijackers were Saudis, Egyptians and other non-Iraqis. And they attacked Iraq because of WMD.  They attacked Iraq to ‘combat terrorist groups’. Wow. Stop being so naive.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5RV6PNQJGQFD7MVFNXX6JCYJNE George

    abort the negotiation!!! all out war is the answer phil. gov’t must enforce the law milf are rebels.. if they we want peace talk put down their firearms first. there is nothing america can do wt that, the current administration is legit and supported by vast majority of filipinos.

  • http://MSN.com LC Lode

    Is there no freedom of speech here?  My previous comment was not posted. Wake up Filipinos! The US really gets what they want, it be positive or negative side, they do enter!

  • http://twitter.com/Joe_The_Kano Joe Kano

    So is this article supposed to be an analysis of the embassy memo or just the usual parroting of what a leftist politician says was in the memo? There seems to be more comment from Ocampo than content from the memo. Did the Inquirer even actually read the memo? It sure is hard to tell.

  • Isgod Mac

    No big deal. I was behind a MILF, too.

  • Anonymous

    I am from Mindanao and I don’t want to be under the muslim rules. if they wanted to have the socio economic development why should seperate from the philippines government. even the creation of the ARMM is a failure only those muslim clan who have the big influence benefited the so called ARMM. a poor become poorer. a lot of abuse in power. if they really care about their people then, why stop carrying your guns, creating a havoc to put pressure  the government to give in for there demand. the idea of the muslim people that they have been neglected,and as a second citizen makes them not moving forward. even the young muslim that is there thinking they own the mindanao. they are still living the past.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

    This article sounds rediculous for me.My question here is “Despite the bombing of WTC also known as 9/11,so,How can the US still have their guts to fund such terrorism by MILF in Mindanao?” As per report by WikiLeaks?If i were going to analyse things,If there is a meeting between MILF and the US,so it must be in the interest of US since as it was known before that Mindanao is reach in Oil and Natural Gas! Now the focus of heating discussions between our Government and MILF is for them to have it´s “Sub-State” or Autonomous government?This mean,the US will definitely play a big role about it because of their economic situation are fluctuating due to lack of their oil reserves in their country.Definitely,if US will back up their deal or talks with the MILF to fight for their interest,they will soon be in close ties with Mindanao because they help them?(MILF).Then American Drill Exploration team will be send to Mindanao for drilling and exploration di ba?Then at the end,if things happen,like Mindanao,having their own Government or in short,declared as a new “Republic of Mindanao” will sell oil to the Republic of the Philippines? Pahihintulutan ba natin na tayo eh bibili ng gasolina sa isang lugar na tayo ang nagma-mayari? To finnish this thing,For the sake of our economy and the future of the Philippines,Id rather`request our President to look now about this Mindanao oil(If there is any?) Para maka-angat ang bansa natin. Ika nga ng US,”Wala na naman si Bush eh,who cares kung may terorista or wala?” Ang importante eh pakinabang sa Mindanao.Di ba?

  • Anonymous

    Not to worry,… Thailand kicked American Military out of Thailand in 70s. They got better brains…..

  • Anonymous

    Not to worry,… Thailand kicked American Military out of Thailand in 70s. They got better brains…..

  • Anonymous

    This leak is incredible. The US gov’t is loath to any terrorist and communist ideology. It’s an out of nowhere leaks, unless, we can see that MILF was a decoy creation of CIA. As of now, it’s a garbage in and garbage out info.

  • Anonymous

    This leak is very very credible!

    Hence the concentration of the soci0-economic development of the USA in the predominantly muslim part of mindanao.

    The secret meetings of US Embassy with the MILF leadership (see KK’s photo with the MILF Leader).

    AT SAKA BAKIT NANDOON SI KK SA  SANA AY PIRMAHAN NG MO-AD SA KUALA LUMPUR?

    Bakit gusto ng USA na may firm foothold sa Bangsa Moro Entity?

    1. Madali silang makakapag-establish ng advance forward STATION to deal with China. Sa nagyon di papayagan ng GPH na magkaroon uli ng land base and naval base dito sa Philiippines.

    2. Secondary lang, although very important din, ang sole access to the rich natural resources of the area (mines, oil, gas, and acquatic riches).

    Other leaks are, in fact, more likely to be true than to be unfounded gossips.

    Kaya para sa akin, naisahan tayo ni KK even by Hillary CLINTON. Ang mga gullible na tayo , nA tayo9ng

    MGA  Filipino, HINDI NATIN   INAKALA  NA KAMPI   PALA  ANG MGA KANO   SA MILF.

    Let me speculate on the issue of who are providing arms, heavy modern arms to the army of the MILF.

    Let me suggest:

    American

    Saudi Arabian

    Malaysian
     

     

  • Anonymous

    may narinig akong kwento. sabi daw nila kung dati pa nagpasakop tau sa US sana daw develop na ngayon ang pilipinas at maganda na hindi tulad ngayon na palubog ng palubog dahil s mga abusadong nasa posisyon. at hindi na daw siguro tau maghihirap pa na makapunta ng america at ng ibang bansa para magtrabaho kundi sila na mismo ang pupunta satin. tama ba??

    • Anonymous

      tama ka jan pinoyz pilipinas ang katulong ng US sa giyera nila kalaban mga hapon at koreano at kaibigan daw ang pilipinas pero sino ngayon ang maunlad at sino ang namamalimos? mas nauna nila tinulungan ang japan pagkatapos ng giyera at naging maunlad samantalang ang manila na sangkatutak na bomba ang bumagsak ay ang bagal ng pagasenso

      • Anonymous

        Hindi dahil naunang tinulungan ang iba tulad ng Japan kaya sila umasenso. At isa pa hindi lang sa disiplina ng mga hapon kundi bago pa man nagkagyera ay maunlad na sila. Kailan ba naging maunlad ang Pilipinas, kahit noong bago pa magkagyera wala tayong kaalam alam sa mga makinaria at industriya. Wala tayong know-how noon pa man. Japan, Korea at China ay mayroon na noon pa man. At maalala mo pa ba, kahit gaano karaming bomba pa ang ibinagsak sa Pinas, hindi mo pa rin matutumbasan ang dalawang atomic bomb na ibinato sa Japan. Remember, “Ang pag-asenso at pag-unlad ay nanggagaling sa disiplina ng tao hindi galing sa tulong”!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TUCYHFYXBBVE57JRQHLZNW2HR4 Cris Rod

    who else do you want to support them? al qaida?..US just want to make sure that MILF will follow them not to the extremist..ryt? command & conquer!!

  • Anonymous

    It wont change the perception filipinos have on the Americans ( Americans know it) even if this Wikileak is proven true, Filipinos will always push the blame to others  ( other than the Americans) when the fact is ….terrorists were American CIA creation in many parts of the world

  • Anonymous

    mas delikado ito tulungan ng US of A at MILF at may naaamoy ako na amoy CIA tinulungan si bin laden nung afghan war with russia…….mas marami bilang ito MILF at nasa pilipinas na kaya pag dumating ang araw na nag-ala bin laden ang MILF na maging fundamentalist group ay kawawang mindanao at buong pilipinas…….yung liderato ngayon ng MILF ay hindi habang panahon na buhay paano kung mapalitan ng mga batang may pagka islamist ang dating?

  • Anonymous

    may narinig akong kwento. sabi daw nila kung dati pa nagpasakop tau sa US sana daw develop na ngayon ang pilipinas at maganda na hindi tulad ngayon na palubog ng palubog dahil s mga abusadong nasa posisyon. at hindi na daw siguro tau maghihirap pa na makapunta ng america at ng ibang bansa para magtrabaho kundi sila na mismo ang pupunta satin. imagine 3 malalaking bansa na daw ang nag tangka para i improve ang pilipinas at kahit isa man lang daw sa bansa na yun ay nakasabay na daw tau na na develop.. hindi daw tulad ngayon na pataas ng pataas ang bilihin at mahina ang takbo ng gobyerno kaya mas lalong nakakawawa ang mga maralitang pilipino.. hindi daw tulad ngayon nagpapakahirap daw tayo mag trabaho sa ibang bansa para kumita ng dollar.. tama ba??

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

      I don´t think it´s a wise decision if until now we will let our country being invaded by Americans? That will be the worst decision of a desperate country if it goes through.As i said before by making flashback of our history,we had been invaded by different countries such as Spain(for 300yrs! 1521-1898) Liberated by Americans including their stay (1898-till the time under we are recognized as a Commonwealth Country by them)Then came the Japanese era(1940´s until we again liberated by Americans from Imperial Japanese regime) So,Americans stay with us until we ask for an official Independence which was granted by them,Thank you Lord!…Now,from 1950´s till now sa tutoo lang 50 YEARS PA LANG TAYONG NAKAKALAYA??? My question here is “What is the deffect of our attitude why we got invaded and enable foreigners to stay longer? The answer is HOSPITALITY! Sobrang lambot ng puso natin….Di na natuto! There is a GOODSIDE and BADSIDE of us being known in the world as the most hospitable person.The goodside is US(Filipinos)…and the badside are those WHO ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE TO US?…A good example are those working as DH in other foreign countries like in Middle East,Hongkong,Europe etc.What kind of feedbacks we heard? “INAABUSO” dahil sobra tayong mabait at too much HOSPITALITY! Ang ginagawa mo sa kanila eh malamang di mo pa nagagawa sa sarili mong MAGULANG? Isipin natin,Ilang buhay ang nagbuwis para lang iligtas ang ating bansa? Ilang magulang ang gumawa nyan para wag lang patayin ng mga Hapon (Japanese) ang kanilang mga anak? Kung meron man tayong problema sa ating bansa,sa ating kapwa,Tayo-tayo ang dapat gumawa ng solusyon at di natin kailangan ang ibang bansa.Isipin natin,Bakit kailangan ng US kausapin ang MILF? Because they knew that there is something in Mindanao that they can get? Ano nga naman ang mapapala nila sa Luzon at Visayas?Eh alam nila na puro korap ang mga tao dito.At kung magtatayo sila muli ng Naval bases,Malamang sa Mindanao at hindi sa ibang part ng Pinas…..Para ano? Para di natin magalaw ng tuluyan ang Mindanao dahil may langis?The best for our President to do is to give importance at other part of our country,not only in NCR coz it is over populated na.Besides,it will change filipino mentality like thinking Manila is the source for green pastures.Mga kababayan,Yung problema natin eh kaya nating solusyunan,Kung di tayo magbabago sa pananaw natin eh walang mangyayari.

      • Anonymous

        Very shallow.argument you don’t deserve a good response.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

        Shallow argument never hurt but it hit something?Simple lang ang tanong ko dito.Why is it that the MILF leader are the one talking with the US Ambassador instead of Pres.Aquino?…Why is it that it is so easy for American to enter and perform drilling in Sulu which is a part of our country rather than to get an Immigrant visa for the Filipinos?…Think about it?

      • Anonymous

        Verry goot observation …. 

        Why Kenny talked directly to MILF?  Because Filipinos cannot be trusted … 

  • Anonymous

    matagal ng ginagago ng US ang pilipinas…habang ang mga lider natin ay coruupt, patuloy tayong magiging laruan ng amerika…

  • white scorpion

    i don’t know how to solve the political and socio economic thing of our society. what i know is that i don’t want any foreign country to take part in the peace process specially the us or any other western countries.  all countries with their minding end up with north and south, east and west, or a new country. the MILF leaders can participate in our electoral process, if they really want peace and development. if we look around, we can now see muslim in our public and private sector. they can just assimilate themselves in our society. just like singapore. multi racial sila doon. our politician did not just don’t developed mindanao. they did not developed almost everywhere in the philippines, if not low quality development. then, why need to take arms.hindi kaya POWER lang ang gusto nila. we are not sure either we will have peace, if it was brokered by us……………..sure thing

  • Anonymous

    These Wikileaks is very short of its content. Most of the words and comments that I read are all coming from a communist named Satur Ocampo after MOA AD was leaked by Arroyo to the public in 2008. The report was expanded where most part of it was the perception against the US by this communist propagandist Ocampo and it was not part of Wikileaks. Just read the part Kenney stated in her report, this is part of wikileaks but the rest is Ocampos after MOA AD public disclosure. I don’t understand why the writer have to add Ocampos opinion, when he is a communist and has nothing to do with the muslims. What is the motives of these news???????????

    • Anonymous

      Nonsense and stupid, you are.

  • Anonymous

    hindi naman siguro dahil sa gusto natin humingi ng tulong sa kano.. pero kung titignan natin mabuti dahil sa kagustuhan nating maging malaya sa kamay ng mga dayuhan noon sino ba ngayon ang mas naghihirap nakikinabang dba ang mga nasa posisyon na karamihan ay corrupt n binoboto natin para tulungan ang pilipinas na maging maayos pero sa halip sila ang gumagamit satin para sa pang sarili nila at kapwa pilipino ang gumagago satin dahil sa kanilang kapangyarihan..?? katulad nlng nung pagsapak ng congressman sa isang gwardya na binalita sa tv na wala nmn atraso sa knya??

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VJOS3W7L7FDA4TGTFHXBLN5FGE George

    Once again this proves the US cannot be trusted. It proposed to give a piece of mindanao to the MILF to win them over on their war on terror. America will sell out their allies if it is to their benefit. Ocampo made the reference to oil and gas in mindanao to incite the MILF to secede from the republic, weakening the government making the country ripe for a communist takeover. If there is oil and gas in mindanao, that would have been exploited already. While claiming to advise the MILF, he has his own evil agenda for our country. Erap has a plenty of sins but his solution to MILF rebellion is still the best.    

    • Anonymous

      George, oil and gas is already being exploited. Try to google oil and gas drilling in Sulu.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5RV6PNQJGQFD7MVFNXX6JCYJNE George

    tihol
    hol..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EIHP2AUBPSYFSVEYPOVY2HTTPU Copernicus Paziorden

    BECAUSE OF CORRUPTION IN GOVERNMENT ARE RAMPANT, THE AMERICAN NOW DIRECTLY HAND THEIR AID TO THE BENEFICIARIES!

    • Anonymous

      Amen … 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EIHP2AUBPSYFSVEYPOVY2HTTPU Copernicus Paziorden

    MILF NOW LIKE PAKISTAN, THEY RECIVE AID FROM MIDDLE EAST AND AID FROM AMERICAN PEOPLE. AND ADDITIONAL SUBSIDIZE BUDGET FROM PHILIPPINE GOVERNMENT. kawawa mga taga bisayas at luzon na nagpaalila at magtrabaho bilang isang muchacha! yung di mga christiano ay paupo upo lang ay pumasok lang nang pera at pa jolibee jolibee lang sila!

  • Anonymous

    wOW!  In cahoots with Gloria !  Blame Gloria !

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wacky-Jabber/100000339298471 Wacky Jabber

    I know I have high IQ. I was questioning yours. An intelligent man can pretend to be stupid but a stupid man cannot pretend to be intelligent as his IQ will eventually show. At the same time, a stupid man can just be himself. There was nothing illogical about asking why your spelling is terrible as it was another topic and I was wondering about it. What is illogical is, you are diverting the topic. You still have not answered my question about your basis. Answer the question and this time show me that you are not a stupid man who is just being himself.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wacky-Jabber/100000339298471 Wacky Jabber

    I guess it is safe to assume that MarianoRenatoPacifico is a dumb guy who pretends to be a smart guy who pretends to be bad at spelling and English. The moment he is asked to write in an intelligent manner, he retreats. Pathetic!



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