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Couple asks SC to declare RH law illegal

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ANTI-RH PROTEST A red ribbon hangs inside St. Ferdinand Cathedral in Lucena City as Catholics continue protest against the RH law. DELFIN T. MALLARI JR./INQUIRER SOUTHERN LUZON

On the first business day of the year, a couple filed in the Supreme Court a suit against the newly signed Responsible Parenthood and Reproductive Health Act of 2012, which mandates the State to provide the poor with reproductive health (RH) services, including access to contraceptives, and sex education to schoolchildren.

Lawyers James Imbong and wife Lovely-Ann, who filed the suit on behalf of their two children and the Magnificat Child Development Center Inc., asked the high tribunal to stop the implementation of Republic Act No. 10354, saying it was unconstitutional.

The Imbongs claimed the law also “mocks the nation’s Filipino culture—noble and lofty in its values and holdings on life, motherhood and family.”

It was the first petition filed against the RH law barely two weeks after President Aquino quietly signed it into law following heated debates in Congress and protests by the Catholic Church.

Grounds for appeal

In a petition for certiorari and prohibition, the petitioners cited two grounds for their appeal: The RH law “introduces policies that negate and frustrate the foundational ideals and aspirations of the sovereign Filipino,” and it “cannot be implemented without exceeding the boundaries of government action, as established in the Constitution.”

Imbong was accompanied and assisted by his mother, lawyer Jo Aurea Imbong, in filing the petition in the high court. His mother, a lawyer of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines (CBCP), is the “collaborating counsel” in the case.

Speaking to reporters, Imbong said he did not consult any CBCP or Church officials when he drew up the petition, adding he wrote it on his own. But he said he informed the CBCP media office about the filing of the petition.

Pro-Life official

Imbong, secretary general of Pro-Life party-list group and a member of the Ang Kapatiran Party, said he expected other Catholic and prolife groups to file similar petitions.

“We filed this on the first business day of the year because we want another chance to prove that this law should not be implemented as long as we have life, family and we respect our Constitution,” Imbong told reporters.

He said the country needed to continue to respect the words of the 1987 Constitution, especially those about honoring life, family and spiritual morality—principles that he noted were absent from the reproductive health law.

 

Respect for life

The Constitution upholds the “ideal of an unconditional respect for life and aspires for the establishment of policies that create opportunities to harness the economic potential of every Filipino,” the petitioners said.

They said Article 2, Section 12 of the Constitution called for the protection of human life.

“The State recognizes the sanctity of family life and shall protect and strengthen the family as a basic autonomous social institution. It shall equally protect the life of the mother and the life of the unborn child,” read the Constitution.

They said there was neither a charge nor a qualification to that policy, “except that the life of the mother is equally important as the life of the unborn and rightly so. In fact, the charge is against the State itself—that it shall do one thing when it comes to the potential of human life; to protect it from the moment of conception.”

Raising kids humanely

But they said this policy was negated by Section 2 of the RH law when it stated that “the State shall also promote openness to life; provided that parents bring forth to the world only those children whom they can raise in a truly humane way.”

“This means that if a certain group of parents is not in a position to raise children in a ‘truly humane way,’ the State has a duty not to promote openness to life as regards such parents,” the petitioners said.

This conclusion, they said, was “reflective of the policy” in different parts of the RH law, citing several sections where the State is mandated to prioritize women and children in poor households for reproductive health care services and family planning methods.

Poor primary targets

“A plain reading of those provisions simply reveals the intention of the Act to bring reproductive health care services within easy reach of the poor. By doing so, the poor become the primary targets of the State’s planned-parenthood policy—a subtle way of telling the poor that the State will subsidize their right to have access to ‘modern’ methods of family planning simply because they are poor,” the petitioners said.

By contrast, the Constitution “empowers and encourages the poor to be direct agents of change and direct beneficiaries of social services and economic opportunity,” the Imbongs said.

Social service redefined

They said the new law redefined social services for the poor.

“First, social service, according to the Act, is about bringing the poor closer to having fewer children, because, after all, who else are at a social disadvantage in bringing forth children whom they can raise in a ‘truly humane way?’ The upper class? The middle class? The lower middle class? Or the poor?” they said.

Secondly, the law was about “reducing the poor population by directly reducing their numbers,” they said.

“The Act does not say it that way but it actually moves in that direction and leads the poor toward that path through the subsidy incentive it provides them,” the petitioners said.

Noting how the law has “consistently and repeatedly” referred to the poor as the preferred beneficiaries of the State-sponsored planned-parenthood, they held that people “as human capital, is a nation’s wealth.”

Population decline

They said the new reproductive health law would bring about “an inexorable population decline” and would “effectively erase the modest but promising economic gains proudly claimed by the country’s economic leaders and noticed by the world.”

“Enforcing the Act is the same as ‘shooting ourselves in the foot’ and, like prodigals, throwing our winnings to the winds,” the petitioners said.

They asked the court to declare unconstitutional paragraph 9 of Section 2; the last paragraph of Section 2, Sections 3 (d), (e), (g), (i); Section 4 (r); Section 7; Section 11; Section 13, and Section 17 of the law.

They also argued that the Constitution upheld the ideal of an unconditional respect for the family’s inherent sanctity and autonomy.

But they noted the law had a mandatory sex education program and it “mocks the sanctity, autonomy and inviolability of marriage and family, making these attributes meaningless empty embellishments.”

They also asked the court to declare unconstitutional Section 4 (v), which states that “responsible parenthood means having the psychological, physical, social, cultural and economic preparedness to determine whether or not the parents’ desire to have another child is proper and timely.”

On their second argument, the petitioners said the law’s statutory standards upon which the implementing rules were to be based were unconstitutional.

They said RA 10354 could not be implemented without going beyond constitutional boundaries and limitations imposed on the government.

Preliminary injunction

The petitioners asked the high court to issue a temporary restraining order/preliminary injunction even if the law had not been published.

They said the remedy for a preliminary injunction was only available “before the contemplated illegal act is done.”

The petitioners asked the Supreme Court to direct the respondents and all persons acting on the basis of the Act to stop implementing it. The respondents included Executive Secretary Paquito Ochoa Jr., Budget Secretary Florencio Abad, Health Secretary Enrique Ona, Education Secretary Armin Luistro and Interior Secretary Manuel Roxas.


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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO MAYOR LITO ATIENZA ABORTIONIST PROLIFE CBCP BISHOPS SILENT KILL JOY EXTREMIST TERRORIST!! DI NAG BABAYAD NG BUWIS DAHIL SA CHARITY PALUSOT!! PAY YOUR TAX PARASITE KATOLIBAN CHURCH!! DAMASO!!

  • Bayang_magiliw

    Been raoming around metro manila and I cannot find any red ribbons other than in the Roman Catholic Churches! It’ a big FLOP!

    • indiosbravos2002

      As I said before, the ribbon thngy is simply pushing the CBCP’s luck. Napahiya na naman. They should when to quit. Mas lalong nabisto wala ng masyadong sumusuporta sa mga pari.

  • Albert Einstien

    BEST LAW : FOI

    BETTER LAW : Anti-Enforced Disappearance Act

    GOOD LAW : DIVORCE

    WORST LAW : RH ( Republic’s Holocaust )

    ang INDIA at CHINA.. maunlad sila dahil malaki ang population capital nila…TOP WORLD ECONOMIES sila…economic predictions by 2023 china will be at the top..but india will overtake china by 2048….ang RH ( Republic’s Holocaust ) pakana ng mga DAYUHAN yan..ANTI-progress, ANTI-patriotism,ANTI-country,ANTI-POOR & ANTI -filipino…

    UNCONSTITUTIONAL..ARTICLE VI Section 26 (1) Every bill passed by the Congress shall embrace only one subject which shall be expressed in the title thereof…
    .A bill must relate to only one subject matter which must be expressed in its title…AN ACT PROVIDING FOR A NATIONAL POLICY ON RESPONSIBLE PARENTHOOD AND REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH ..clearly TWO TITLES….responsible parenthood & reproductive health…

    UNCONSTITUTIONAL & it RUNS counter to its DECLARED policy..PREVENTING occurence of LIFE…by means of STATE INTERVENTION……which is sacred in our CONSTITUTION and as a nation…EQUALITY extends to right to be BORN ALIVE without STATE or outside intervention ..STATE funding the means of PREVENTION, INTERVENTION & DEPRIVATION TO LIFE runs amuck to the bill of rights..RIGHT to LIFE, EQUALITY & EQUAL PROTECTION … clearly USE & FUNDING of RH is a PREVENTION & INTERVENTION to continuity of life…….SEC. 2. Declaration of Policy Pursuant to the declaration of State policies under Section 12, Article II of the 1987 Philippine Constitution, it is the duty of the State to protect and strengthen the family as a basic autonomous social institution and equally protect the life of the mother and the life of the unborn from conception. The State shall protect and promote the right to health of women especially mothers in particular and of the people in general and instill health consciousness among them. The family is the natural and fundamental unit of society. The State shall likewise protect and advance the right of families in particular and the people in general to a balanced and healthful environment in accord with the rhythm and harmony of nature. The State also recognizes and guarantees the promotion and equal protection of the welfare and rights of children, the youth, and the unborn

    UNCONSTITUTIONAL……”SEC. 15. Certificate of Compliance. – No marriage license shall be issued by the Local Civil Registrar unless the applicants present a Certificate of Compliance…. . excessive requirement..the family code states that LICENSE to marry can be WAIVED & exempted..like in the cases provided in Articles 27, 28, 31, 32 and 34 of the Family Code of the Philippines, …. the same with wealth of jurisprudence… it runs counter to declared policy of RH law itself..about strenghtening of family… SEC. 2. Declaration of Policy Pursuant to the declaration of State policies under Section 12, Article II of the 1987 Philippine Constitution, it is the duty of the State to protect and strengthen the family as a basic autonomous social institution and equally protect the life of the mother and the life of the unborn from conception. The family is the natural and fundamental unit of society. The State shall likewise protect and advance the right of families in particular and the people in general to a balanced and healthful environment in accord with the rhythm and harmony of nature

    .UNCONSTITUTIONAL yan..CLASS LEGISLATION against the POOR & FUTURE generation of filipinos…(o) Poor refers to members of households identified as poor through the NHTS-PR by the Department of Social Welfare and Development (DSWD) or any subsequent system used by the national government in identifying the poor. .& GENOCIDE of FUTURE generations of full blood filipinos which is INIMICAL to country’s interest & survival as a race….with the INTERVENTION of the state which leads to DEPRIVATION to right to life & POPULATION as requirement for STATEHOOD ..the ENTIRE gamut of the CONSTITUTION ( from art 1 to art XVIII) are RENDERED INUTILE & GROSSLY VIOLATED …….

    .UNCONSTITUTIONAL..the LAW specifically TARGETED POPULATION GROWTH of the FILIPINO RACE …which is a SINE QUANON requirement of a going concern,continuing & immortal STATE…” PEOPLE “…(people, territory & govt )…p) Reproductive Health (RH) refers to the state of complete physical, mental and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity, in ALL MATTERS relating to the REPRODUCTIVE system and to its functions and processes. This implies that people are able to have a responsible, safe, consensual and satisfying sex life, that they have the capability to reproduce and the freedom to decide if, when, and how often to do so. This further implies that women and men attain equal relationships in matters related to sexual relations and reproduction…

    SIGURO kung meron ng RH ng ipinanganak ang mga POLITIKO na pumirma dito..ABORTED ang law na ito…malamang nasa basurahan sila katulad ng condom…dapat ang TARGET lang ng RH yun me MENTAL & PHYSICAL problems HINDI yung poor at filipino race in general…

    GO PATRIOTic LAWYERS i-TRO nyo na agad ibase nyo dito sa arguments ko ABORTED agad yan RH…by natural death…ipasok nyo INTERGENERATIOAL INTEREST, PUBLIC INTEREST, CLASS LEGISLATION,RIGHT to life, equality & equal protection to all & SURVIVAL & IMMORTALITY of the STATE doctrines……..condolence RH….. : > )

    • http://www.scribd.com/narodnikkki karaangtawo

      dude, sana naglink ka na lang sa blog mo, at nagbigay ka na lang ng summary dito. walang magbabasa nang ganyang kahabang sulat online. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5EV2FNQUSNLESIPZKVIR43JSCI Juan Dela cruz

         Hahaha tama ka dyan karaang, binasa ko lang yung unang sentence nya pero alam ko na ang mga sinasabi nya… Mukhang matalino pero walang alam sa kahirapan… compare nya ang China at China sa Pilipinas, pero hindi nya alam kung anong buhay natin ngayon dito sa Pilipinas…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/2FGBMZTWMED25DREYB6HR7VX74 Rickie

        Tamad kasi kayo magbasa! Iyan ang ugat ng ating kahirapan! Katamaran!

    • filipinaskoh

      AMPUNIN MO NA LANG KAYA ANG MGA ANAK NILANG HINDI NILA KAYANG PALAKIHIN!

    • ShineMother

      Sir, I’m no expert but, isn’t the land mass of those two countries far too big compared to ours? The country isn’t getting any bigger, but the population is. 

      • Albert Einstien

        we have the world to occupy……my friend…..besides our land mass can accomodate 3 billion citizens…land mass is the least of our concern …

      • indiosbravos2002

        Tanga ka ba! Hindi lahat ng land mass for dwelling. Malaking porsyento nyan para sa resources na magsusuporta sa quality of life ng tao eg, food, materials etc… Kung puro tao mundo, san pa tayo kukuha ng makakain. The world is an ecosystem. Overpopulate and you kill some other specie of animals or plants. Kill one specie and you change the whole world order.

      • Albert Einstien

        nature knows best…populating earth is  nature’s way …we are part of the eco-system….we are part of the evolving cycle of creation & extinction…my lonely friend…. : > )

      • Bansot

        If your statement is true, can you please explain why is it that the average residential lot in most subdivisions in Metro Manila and the suburds is merely 200 sq meters, and the prices are sky high? Have you forgotten that there is what we called habitable and non habitable lands ?, i.e. a big part of Australia is  occupied by the Simpson desert extending from the West to the Northern Territory ,hence inhabitable wastelands.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/2FGBMZTWMED25DREYB6HR7VX74 Rickie

        Alam mo kaya mahal iyan dahil sa mga mayayamang gahaman at ang kakulangan ng pamahalaan na mag-provide ng maayos na pabahay na may ikabubuhay. Nagbibigay nga ng pabahay wala namang ikinabubuhay na ibinibigay. Dapat kasi ang mga mayayaman, binibigay nila ung mga sobra nilang pera sa mahihirap.

      • motorcyclemama

        O ayan sinagot mo na ang dahilan kung bakit hindi pwedeng dumami ang tao sa Pilipinas.

        Gusto mo dumami ang taong mahihirap? Na hindi kayang makatapos sa pag aaral? Minsan nga manood ka ng Reel Time sa GMA News TV at mapanood mo sana ang mga batang naghahanapbuhay para lang sa pambaon at pagkain araw araw.

        Isa pa, ang value ng lahat ng bilihin ay nalalaman dahil sa law of supply and demand. Mas malakas ang demand, nagmamahal ang presyo ng kahit anong bagay, mapa pagkain, bahay, lupa at edukasyon.

      • motorcyclemama

         OK, i occupy mo lahat ng landmass.

        San ka ngayon kukuha ng tataniman para makain?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SNA7HUMMZRD2DFLEYK4ZKN72TY norman tuliao

      anak, ang India at china, Malalaki ang nasasakupan nilang lupa para sa kanilang population, ang pinas, sing liit lang ng utak mo, kaya umusog-usog ka ng kaunti masikip na itong inu-upuan ko.

      • Albert Einstien

        amang, mas gusto nyo ata china ang tumira dito sa pinas..nasa panatag na sila boat  ride na de sagwan na lang ns manila at mainland luzon na sila….di ba mas maganda na filipino na lang ang tumira sa pilipinas …napakalaki pa ng RP para sa 300 million na pinoy…100 million pa lang po  kami…lol.

      • mucho_cheapo

        You really are dillusional. 300 million people? Saan mo isisiksik yan? Ngayon nga 100 million pa lang kayo eh sangkatutak na ang mga squatter. Remember, it’s the poor who breed like rabbits and not the well to do. Mauubusan na tayo ng lupa para tayuan ng mga squatters, no more bridges to build a shack underneath, the banks of Pasig River is full, at wala na ring bakante sa Smoly Mountain at sa Payatas. Maski sa Cementeryo masikip na. The Bishops could care less kung sino ang magpapakain ng mga mahihirap.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        na inuubos naman ng mga calamities…unang una na ng mga walang kakayahang bigyan ng sariling proteksiyon ang sariling pamilyang pikitmatang at walang pakundangang pagdaragdag ng nilalang na labis-labis sa kaniyang kakayahan.  Ang mga may kakayahan ay di gaanong nabibiktima ng mga kalamidad dahil abot sila ng proteksiyong kaya ng mga magulang.

    • http://www.facebook.com/activexversion5 Activex Versionfive

      Pa einstein einstein ka pa, bobo naman argumento mo tanga, bat mo i compare india at china sa pinas? Sa india nga malaki pero tingnan mo naman mga tao dun mga mayaman ba. Kaya nga nagpuntahan dto sa pinas at ibang bansa ang mga bombay na iyon kahit malaki pa ang kanilang lupain dun ay dahil din sa kahirapan. Sa china, maraming tao pero sa panahon ngayon control na ang kanilang populasyon. Marami namang naghihirap sa china, kasi control sa gobyerno ang media halos hindi pinapakita sa buong mundo ang realidad o stado ng mga tao dun. Dito sa atin maliit pa ang pinas, daming tao, tapos haharangin ng mga kumag na mga taong to ang ginawa ng gobyerno na mamulat sa katotohanan ang mga kababayan natin kung papaano magkaroon ng pamilya na kaya nilang maaalgaan at mabigyan ng wastong edukasyon ang kanilang mga anak. Tama na ang kakaharang sa gawain ng gobyerno na makabubuti sa atin. Magbigay naman kayo ng solusyon kung meron sa problema.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/2FGBMZTWMED25DREYB6HR7VX74 Rickie

        Mind you, India is not poor. Ikaw ang magmang. India is the tenth largest economy in the world. An Indian is the richest Asian.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KIO7WLD47UUZ5L6Y3FM2X2GNRU brian

        activex check… mo kung ilang bilyonaryo nasa india… :)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    Move on LOOZERS!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/76VZCFEHSTBF43WYPWFAWUZKDU tiboynayan

    Dami mong argumento, Einstien. Bakit di na lang ikaw ang mag file ng TRO at makipag argumento sa Court of Appeals? Bat di ka pumapel nung nasa deliberations process pa ang batas na ito? Humingi na nga ng tulong ang matataas na opisyal ng simbahan sa diyos at hiniling pa ang mga deboto na sabay sabay na manalangin sa diyos para di maipasa ang batas na ito pero bigo silang lahat. Baka ito ang gustong mangyari ng diyos. 

    • rayingga

       Capital letter po D sa Diyos  at hindi diyos. Sorry po

  • filipinaskoh

    KEEP ON FILING!

    While we will keep on SMILING!

    Why kept on associating RHBILL with ABORTION! 
    Contraceptive pills lang ba ang pwede sa RHBIL??
    Pwede naman ang Tubal ligation, Vasectomy, condoms!

    KUng sa tingin ng mag-asawa ay makakasama sa kanila ang pills eh di ibang paraan na lang ang i-choose nila. Kung ayaw nilang MAGKAROON ng MARAMING anak- HAYAAN NYO SILA!
    BAKIT – PALALAMUNIN nyo ba ang mga anak nila?

    WAG NYO SILANG PAKIALAM anyway wala naman talaga kayong PAKIALAM SA KANILA!
    LET THEM DECIDE! do not decide for them!

  • KapitanBagwis

    It is within their rights to file such petition to the highest court but they must also understand that they do not have the monopoly on the knowledge of the law.

    Let the SC rule on this matter.

    One reason the country can not progress is because of these self righteous people. If there is anyone committing sins because of this RH Bill, let God be the judge.

  • UrHONOR

    Accept the peoples’ decision or start your own people…. in your OWN LAND!

    • txtman

      PEOPLES” DECISION?

      DID ANYBODY

      TRY TO INFORM THE PUBLIC ABOUT RH?

      NADINIG LANG NILA

      EH, SAGOT DAW YAN SA KAHIRAPAN

      TOTOO KAYA?

      PITIFUL

  • indiosbravos2002

    Pano kaya nakapasa sa BAR etong nagfile ng motion. You dont need to be a lawyer or a genius(wink wink) to realize that the RH bill is legal and constitutional. Common sense lang yan boy!

    • txtman

      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      GANON BA?

      EH, KUNG GANYAN

      NEXT TIME

      IKAW NAMAN ANG INONOMINATE SA SUPREME COURT

      AS JUSTICE

      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      PITIFUL

      • indiosbravos2002

        F@ck off troll!

  • innit1

    RH LAW IS PRO  LIFE

    RH LAW is PRO QUALITY OF LIFE

    RH LAW is EMPOWERING WOMEN to control  when to have children. Women can SURVIVE childbirth. Mothers HEALTH is PRIORITY.. A healthy Mother brings forth Healthy and Happy Children.

    RH LAW will cut the vicious cycle of poverty where no children will be born in poverty in the slums.

    Thank you for the RH Law. Thank you for giving us WOMEN the CHOICE.

    • txtman

      NO WONDER

      AND DAMI PA RIN MAHIHIRAP

      NA MGA KABABAIHAN SA

      UNITED STATES OF AMERIKA

      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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      YAN DIN ANG SINABI NILA

      BEFORE MAGING LEGAL ANG ABORTION

      PITIFUL

      • mucho_cheapo

        Naka punta ka na ba sa America o binabase mo lang sa mga nababasa mo sa diaryo? You are comparing apples and oranges. I know you’d be glad to immigrate to America maski nga TNT ka eh papayag ka na. Just shut the hell up

      • txtman

        OO, NAMAN

        PABALIK-BALIK AKO DOON
        .
        .
        .

        KAYA ALAM KO ANG SINASABI KO
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        ALAM MO BA KUNG BAKIT SILA MAHIRAP
        .
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         SAME SA PHILIPPINES
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         TAMAD
        .
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        LAZY
        .
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        NASA KANILA NA LAHAT

        CONDOMS

        PILLS

        FOOD STAMPS

        HEALTH INSURANCE

        .
        .
         PERO POOR PA RIN SILA

        KASI TAMAD SILA
        .

        TAMAD

        TAMAD

        PITIFUL

      • http://www.facebook.com/danilo.navarro.946 Danilo Navarro

        wow mayaman ka pala kaya mong mag pabalik palik sa amerika ano bang trabaho..kasi kaming nag tratrabaho dito sa isang taon namin pagtratrabaho isang linggo lang bakasyon uuwi ka ng pinas minus two days na agad ang bakasyon ..yung papamasahe namin round trip na almost $1,000.00$ padadala na lang sa pinas kasi andon yung mga kapatid o magulang,,he he he pabalik balik daw ..lulukuhin mo pa kaming andito sa amerika hunghang..saan ka dito sa amerika bigay mo nga address o cp # mo at ng malaman ko kung totoo itong sinasabi

      • http://www.facebook.com/danilo.navarro.946 Danilo Navarro

        isa pang pahabol walang tamad na pilipino dito sa amerika karamihan 2 works..kung galing ka nga dito at pabalik balik ka alam mo yan

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/2FGBMZTWMED25DREYB6HR7VX74 Rickie

        Ang sinasabi niya mga Amerikano. Kahit si Mitt Romney sinabi yan diba? Remember 47% speech? Kung nasa Amerika ka talaga alam mo yan, I don’t need to cite the sources.

      • Turono

        And wasn’t he heavily criticized for that irresponsible statement? And did Romney win the election? I thought so!

      • innit1

        RH LAW is NOT EQUALS ABORTION
        Those poor women in America that you are talking about CHOSE to be poor.  But many Filipinos did not choose to be poor but they are  because there is no help from the government.
        Many Filipinos want to have a better life but there was just no opportunity. Population is exploding because mother and father has no jobs. they are bored so they make babies. The mother gives birth every year like a pig and that is not the situations where we want our women are.
        Proper implementation of RH LAW and the government making steps to attract FDI and lessen corruption can result in a massive difference to our standard of living

      • txtman

        ANO YUN ULIT?
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        NO OPPURTUNITY

        NO JOBS
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        .

        IKAW NA MISMO ANG NAGSABI NIYAN
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        .

        OH, NASAAN ANG KASI MADAMING ANAK KAYA SILA POOR?
        .
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        HAVING MANY CHILDREN IS A CONSEQUENCE OF BEING POOR

        NOT THE OTHER AROUND

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         AND ACCORDING TO BUSINESS WORLD
        .
        ..

         
        CHILDREN ARE MORE PRODUCTIVE IN THE RURAL AREAS

        THAN IN THE CITY

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        DSWD DO YOUR WORK
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        PITIFUL

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/2FGBMZTWMED25DREYB6HR7VX74 Rickie

        Chose to be poor? Who is in his right mind will choose to be poor? More like CHOSE TO LIVE A SIMPLE LIFE. That is more acceptable.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5EV2FNQUSNLESIPZKVIR43JSCI Juan Dela cruz

    Siguro itong dalawang Imbong na ito, mga tumbong lang ang ginagamit! 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    BISHOPS MAY KAPIT BAHAY AKO 13 YUNG ANAK KUNG SAAN BINAWAL NI MAYOR ATIENZA PILLS SA CENTER YUNG 9 DI PUMAPASOK PUWEDE BANG PAPASUKIN NINYO SA CATHOLIC PRIVATE SCHOOL LIBRE BAON HATID SUNDO PROBLEMA BAON PAG KAIN SAAN KUKUWA KAY BISHOPS LAGI NAKA MONTERO MAY 17 BILLION SA PHILIPPINE STOCKS MAY MGA SHARES ANG LAKI NG LUPAIN WOW BONGGA BISHOPS MAY BAGO MODEL NG MONTERO 2013 MODEL BAGAY KAY SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE AT KAY BISHOPS OSCA CRUZ MUKANG GALUNGGONG NA BAKLA!! BISHOPS SAY BURN TO HELL PRO R.H EXTREMIST PARASITE CHURCH!!

    • Barak_O

      unahin mo munang kumain

      natuyo na utak mo

      saka mo problemahin kapitbahay mo

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        SABIHIN MO KAY BISHOPS P!!!!!!!NG INAMO!! PINADAMI NIYA BATANG HUBO!! SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO!! LITO ATIENZA ABORZIONIST! PROLIFE!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

        BS ang Bishop.  B-Shop.

      • Turono

        In fairness may katotohanan yung mga sinasabi nya.  At buti pa sya concerned sa kapitbahay, hindi kagaya mo at ng mga bishops, puro bulsa at sarili ang inaatupag.  Mga hipokrito!!!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/2FGBMZTWMED25DREYB6HR7VX74 Rickie

        Paano mo naman nalaman na concerned siya? Sinabi niya un para i-debunk ang simbahan. Ni hindi ka nga sigurado kung meron talaga siyang kapitbahay na ganoon. Mind you, the Roman Catholic Church is the largest charitable institution in the world. The church operates hundreds of orphanages around the world. Charity hospitals and educational institutions.

      • Turono

        I share and feel his sentiments.  I grew up sa “looban” sa squatters area.  So don’t tell me what I know and do not know.  I witnessed and experienced the misery of being poor, of not having anything to eat, of not having enough of everything because there’s just too many of us.  Out of all this, ni anino ng simbahan hindi ko nakita.  Nasaan ang mga charitable institution na pinagsasasabi mo? HWAG KAYONG MANLOKO NG MANLOKO! MGA HIPOKRITO!!!!

    • txtman

      KAPITBAHAY MO?

      ITO GAWIN MO HA
      .
      .
      .
      TUMAMBAY KA NG ISANG BUONG ARAW SA KANILA

      TIGNAN MO OR ISULAT MO

      ACTIVITIES NINA TATAY & NANAY

      THE WHOLE DAY
      .
      .
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      DYAN MALALAMAN MO

      KUNG BAKIT SILA MAHIRAP
      .
      .
       
      KASI

      MALAMANG

      MAY TAMAD SA KANILA
      .
      .
       AYAW MONG MANIWALA?

      TUMAMBAY KA
      .
      .
      .
      MOST OF THE TIME

      KATAMARAN LANG YAN

      TAMAD

      PITIFUL

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/2FGBMZTWMED25DREYB6HR7VX74 Rickie

      Bakit yung kapitbahay mo ba nanghingi ng tulong na? Kung concerned ka talaga sa kapitbahay mo at hindi mo sinabi to para lang i-debunk ang church, ihatid mo sila dito: 

      Tuloy sa Don Bosco Streetchildren Village Alabang-Zapote Road cor. San Jose Village Alabang, Muntinlupa City.Oh ayan na ang tulong ng mga Obispo. They’d be more than welcome to attend to your neighbors’ children. May Catholic School sa loob. At may mga Italianong pari at iba pang nationality na magtuturo sa kanila na graduate ng prestigious schools abroad.

      • motorcyclemama

        Bakit kelangan pang dalhin sa mga lugar na yan eh sa paligid pa lang ng simbahan nila ang daming batang kalye? Bakit di nila pagdadamputin ang mga yan at ilagay sa sinasabi mong mga institution, pag aralin sa magagaling nilang private school at suportahan hanggang magkatrabaho?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    YAN YUNG RIBBON CUMMUNIST TERRORIST KATOLIBAN CHURCH!! RED MADUGO!! BURN TO HELL DAMASO!!

  • MANGLUCIO

    WOW! THIS LAWYER DOESN’T EVEN KNOW THAT THIS RH BILL IS NOW A LAW PASSED BY BOTH HOUSES. SUPREME COURT HAS NO JURISDICTION OR NO SAY ANYMORE. I WONDER WHY THE SC EVEN BOTHER TO ACCEPT THIS TOILET PAPER FROM THESE MEDIA EXPOSURE HUNGRY COUPLE. THIS GUY MUST BE DISBARRED FOR BEING AN IDIOT AND STUPID AND INNOCENT ABOUT THE LAW.

    • txtman

      HINDI DAW ALAM ANG BATAS?

      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      IKAW ANG NAGMUKHANG VERY STUPID & IDIOT

      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      .
      .
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      REMEMBER THE CYBERCRIME LAW?

      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      TANGA!

      PITIFUL

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/2FGBMZTWMED25DREYB6HR7VX74 Rickie

      I like your stupidity! AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO” BRAIN WASH PILIPINO TO BE IDIOTS!!

  • AlexanderAmproz

    What backward peoples for a backward country, shameful !

    Forward Philippines, It’s the last minute to do it !

    • txtman

      BAKIT ANG CHINESE AYAW MAG-ASAWA NG MGA PINOYS?

      ALAM BA NINYO

      ANG ISA SA MGA DAHILAN?
      .
      .
       KASI DAW

      MGA FILIPINO FAMILY

      HINDI NAGTUTULUNGAN

      ANG GALING-GALING DAW MANGUTANG SA KAMAG-ANAK

      HINDI NAMAN MARUNONG MAGBAYAD
      .
      .
      .
      ANG DAMI PANG TAMAD

      AS IN TAMAD

      BATUGAN

      UMAASA LANG SA IBA

      YOU NAME IT

      TAMAD
      .
      .

      PITIFUL

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    The mastermind of this desperate petition with SC is no other than the CBCP.  Are they not going to stop?

  • jr_06498

    Bumabalik na naman sa buhay nating mga Pilipino, ang panghihimasok ng simbahang katoliko.

    Napapanahon na para ipa mukha sa mga CBCP na wala ng silang pakialam sa ating buhay.

    Mayroon ba ipinagbago sa ating buhay, sa kabila ng ating paniniwala sa mga Pareng katoliko+

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/2FGBMZTWMED25DREYB6HR7VX74 Rickie

      Sa akin meron, ewan ko lang sa iyo. Hindi ka naman siguro nakinig ng mabuti. Tulad noong nag-aaral ka. Sumunod ka ba talaga?

  • anu12345

    Basta ang last name ay Imbong, huwag ninyong kukuhaning lawyer. Tiyak na talo kayo.

  • txtman

    ALAM MO BA

    KUNG BAKIT MADAMING MAHIRAP?

     WALANG TRABAHO

    OR

    KUNG MAY TRABAHO

    SUPER BABA ANG SWELDO

    AND MAHAL PA NG BILIHIN

    OR

    ITO ANG MALUPIT

    TAMAD
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     MADAMING TAMAD INENG

    .
    . NARANASAN MO NA BA MAGBAKUMPUNI NG BAHAY?

    HINDI BA

    ANG TAMING TAMAD NA MGA FILIPINO?

    .
    .

    MADAMING TAMAD

    KAYA

    MADAMING MAHIRAP
    .
    .
     IMAGINE MO

    SUPER LOLA NA SI NANAY

    SIYA PA RIN ANG KUMAKAYOD?

    KASI NGA

    TAMAD ANG MGA ANAK
    .
    .

    LETS FACE IT

    A LOT OF FILIPINOS ARE LAZY

    AS LAZY AS A TREE
    .
    .
     
    TAMAD

    PITIFUL

    • Dieserweg

      I disagree, trees are not lazy.  : b

      • txtman

        KASABIHAN YAN INENG

        LAZY AS A TREE

        MEANING

        TAMAD

        HINDI GUMAGALAW ANG ISANG TAO

        KATULAD NG ISANG PUNO

        .
        .
        PITIFUL

      • Dieserweg

        Okay, thanks for the tip, but i agree with you, dami talaga tamad sa pinoy, dami pang magugulang. Haaay….

  • DonQuixoteDeRizal

    what sovereign Filipino people this guy is talking about? Apart from his wife plus his two kids and the magnifac child development center (ano ba to, school?), I don’t see any body else in his petition. oh, and the bishops is also part incognito.

    Atty Imbong, get a million signatures and maybe the sc will consider your request. But good luck to that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/activexversion5 Activex Versionfive

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  • brunogiordano

    The FILIPNO people tells SC to declare RH LAW LEGAL and CONSTITUTIONAL.

    • motorcyclemama

       Please be specific about what kind of Filipino People you are talking about.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7IGQYIPU6AFTVRJ742XT2X44M4 Jef

    CBCP and  Lawyers James Imbong with his wife Lovely-Ann connive  

  • http://twitter.com/SusanLalic Susan Lalic

     RH bill is a big thing, but it should also be delicate.

     PH is very ambitious, she is experimenting with human engineering.

    Everything has to be done to make it success.

    Resentment is a good thing, please afraid not.

    • brunogiordano

      RH bill Is RH LAW NOW!!

      And it’s CONSTITUTIONAL.

      • http://twitter.com/SusanLalic Susan Lalic

         Law can be changed, law isn’t perfect, law is man-made.

    • Turono

      Human engineering? Please explain!

      • http://twitter.com/SusanLalic Susan Lalic

         This touches every aspect of life, human life. It is very complex, one part is linked to another.

      • Turono

        Explain please! I’m curious about the human engineering stuff you’re talking about. Don’t be vague. This is interesting.

      • http://twitter.com/SusanLalic Susan Lalic

         Like any engineering, it is a complex system. you can’t cut this part from other part. everything has to be done in a careful way.

        imagine a car, how ever small, one screw can cause a big trouble.

        you have to think in whole, not part.

      • Turono

        Considering the state we are in right now, how miserable and poverty-stricken we are, I can only see positive effects coming out of this law.  Simple as that!

      • http://twitter.com/SusanLalic Susan Lalic

        I support population control.
         but it has to be fair.

        make no mistake about it, it means sacrifice.

        Let me put it this way, RH law alone isn’t enough.

      • http://twitter.com/SusanLalic Susan Lalic

         when you think of a system, you think in terms of stability, sustainability, compatibility, etc..

        the same is true for RH law.

  • http://twitter.com/SusanLalic Susan Lalic

    When China practises one Child policy, from president to farmers, everyone is treated the same way. This is something RH bill has to “balance”.

    • Turono

      We are not China! They have their law, WE have ours.

      • http://twitter.com/SusanLalic Susan Lalic

         Fairness and equality are the key words.
         The danger is that potentially, the poor may have to take more burdens. That is my reading from this report, what do you think ?

      • Turono

        Philippines and China are two different countries in MANY MANY ways. Apples and oranges my dear!

      • http://twitter.com/SusanLalic Susan Lalic

         They are both humans, my darling.

      • Turono

        But they don’t live in the same country and they don’t abide by the same rules. And many other factors that just won’t apply to both sets of human beings. Two different countries, two different sets of laws and two different everything else.  It’s not a one-size fits all concept.

      • http://twitter.com/SusanLalic Susan Lalic

         back to the topic, I am surprised by this report. it touches a very important topic: social economic factor of the RH law.

        is it possible that the poor may have to take more responsibility ?

        that reminds me of One Child policy of China.

      • Turono

        NOTHING in this law is forced on anybody.  It is all OPTIONAL. Far from the One-child Policy of China. Again, no comparison. Ugh!

      • http://twitter.com/SusanLalic Susan Lalic

         what is the purpose of the law ?

        if it is optional, why do we need it ?

        sex education is also optional ?

      • Turono

        Oi vey! You’re getting ridiculous. I can’t believe I fell for your spinning trap!

      • taga_ilog

        I’v seen this reply before, but I forgot who said this, but still this will be a very fitting answer “have you heard of the term institutionalization?”

      • simondj

        then why make the law?

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Poor need good schools and heath services, basic healthy food, but first of all respect. In the Philippines the respect is fear and killers consideration. This trash mentality was built up by the Clergy, on colonial purpose, to rape the country, a country traditionally run by rapists

      • http://twitter.com/SusanLalic Susan Lalic

         when you think of a system, you think in terms of stability, sustainability, compatibility, etc..

        the same is true for RH law.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        The Philippines rule is to step on the head,
        China is not stepping on the head.
        China is a success full country taking adopted measures. 
        In China Marcos’s will have to been hang, all of them, go to the Fort, you will meet so many criminals, Imelda included. Take a business flight, you will be surrounded by trashes, except few lost foreigners.

      • IsipPinoy

         The RH law will UNBURDEN the poor.

      • simondj

        how do you know?

      • taga_ilog

        and how do you know it will?

      • simondj

        i know the RH LAW will not prosper because it is against the will of God.

      • tamumd

        Hahahaha keep dreaming. If your god is real….he would have wiped out all those congressmen and senators out of this world before they even voted for this law. They prayed and said the rosary and celebrated countless masses…did those things work? NOPE. You guys are just making a mockery of your church.

      • taga_ilog

        wow, you do know huh? did god talked to you? I am not an expert ont hese things but I will not be arrogant enough to know the will of god. but then again, I do not believe in your judeo christian god or any god for that matter.

      • Turono

        I’d be wary of people claiming to know the will of God.

      • simondj

        read the scripture so that at least you will know some,,,, but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 1 cor. 2:10

      • IsipPinoy

         Read the law and understand it.

      • simondj

        the purpose is the same,,, to make the population less and less

  • http://twitter.com/SusanLalic Susan Lalic

    Population control has to be balanced and fair.

  • RichardStack1

    Women have, in fact, over the past few centuries, and around the globe, chosen to limit the size of their families, regardless of the opposition of the various patriarchies.  The central issue of the 
    choice of parents to limit family size was set back in the mid-twentieth century by stupid, panicky efforts, notably in India, to sterilize and abort.  But women continue to exert their power in this regard.

     The world is shifting from a basically agrarian to a basically industrial order, and children, once valuable as agricultural workers, are becoming increasingly expensive. Arcane doctrines, whether “fallible” or not, and whether or not announced from the Pinnacles of Faith, (derived from Augustine, and the old tale of Onan,) don’t really cut it, when a mother thinks about what will be best for her family.  She’ll be a “good catholic”, perhaps, but she will ignore the patriarchy.  Fertility in Catholic Italy, for example, is below the replacement level. 

    Ignoring these facts, and suppressing access to family planning, simply leads to backstreet abortions and a huge number of maternal deaths. Let me repeat: women will control the size of their families whether or not the bachelor patriarchy likes it or not. 

    • http://twitter.com/SusanLalic Susan Lalic

       men and women, both have responsibility.
       it is actually easier for men to take the control, of course it means they have to be operated.

  • quirinomayer

    Padre Damaso and his blind followers will not stop until they finally get clobbered by all three branches of government. Bring it on, bigots.

    • txtman

      BIGOT MEANS INTOLERANT.

      SINO KAYA ANG BIGOT?

      HINDI BA KAYO?
      .
      .
      .
      CLUBBERED ALL THREE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT?
      .
      .
       HINDI BA GINAWA NA YAN NI PENOY
      .
      .
       ACTUALLY

      SI PENOY PA LANG ANG NAKAKAGAWA NIYAN
      .
      .
      HIS MEDIA LAPDOG WILL PRAISED HIM

      BUT  HISTORY WILL JUDGE HIM

      ..

      WHAT IS FUNNY

      .
      .
      SI CORY AY AGAINST SA DICTATOR

      PERO

      YUNG UNICO IHO NIYA

      ANG PINAKA-DICTATOR SA PHILIPPINE HISTORY

      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      PITIFUL

      • http://www.facebook.com/danilo.navarro.946 Danilo Navarro

        he he he mag isip ka ngan mabuti sa sinasabi mong pinaka dictador sa philippines history ..he he he kung pinaka dictador baka ni kaperasong letra di ka maka send dito sana di na dumadaan sa kongresso at senado.. yung mga kinakasuhan deritso na sana sa kalabusan wala ng atty o hearing ha ha ha makatirada ka lang  pero di ka nag iisip kung ano ibig sabihin ng diktador

      • txtman

        IKAW ANG MAG-ISIP

        KUNG AYAW MONG MANIWALA

        DI WAG
        .
        .
        .

        SIMPLE LANG

        EXECUTIVE

        LEGISLATIVE

        JUDICIARY

        SHOULD BE INDEPENDENT TO ONE ANOTHER
        .
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         PRESENT BA NGAYON YAN SA PINAS?

        OF COARSE NOT
        .
        .
        .
         
        WHAT PENOY, WANTS

        PENOY GETS
        .
        .
         YAN ANG CLEAR CASE

        NG ISANG TAONG

        NABALIW SA KAPANGYARIHAN
        .
        .
         READ THE BULATAO REPORT OF ATENEO
        .
        .

        PERO HINDI LAHAT NAKUHA

        EXCEPT

         BABAE

        KASI NGA

        HINDI BABAE ANG GUSTO

        AHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHI
        .
        .
        .

        AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

        PITIFUL

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      • rayingga

         kaunting desipina naman sa paggamit mo ng mga salita, pwede mong sabihin lahat ang gusto mo provided na nasa tama ito at di ka nanghahamak ng iyong kapwa. Your main subj. is a legitimate elected president of our country. Kaunting courtesy naman please

      • marionics

        naku isa na namang bagito na pumatol kay txtman bwahaha. huwag mo na pagtiyagaan yan he he

      • akimaxx

        Napapansin ko lahat ng blogs mo ALL CAPS at DOUBLE SPACE,
        txtman, ang mas mahalaga ay ang nilalaman ng iyong pahayag, hindi ang laki at space nito. Please, use your blogging ethics.

      • marionics

        naku isa na namang bagito na pumatol kay txtman bwahaha. huwag mo na pagtiyagaan yan he he

      • hustlergalore

        hanokabanaman. para kang bago ng bago.

        hindi pinapatulan yan si txtman. kulang lang yan sa pansin.

        tignan mo magsulat. ALLCAPS na. DOUBLE SPACE  pa.

        LOL

  • nes911

    What a waste of time!

  • mangtom

    ImBOBOng, tumahimil ka na. Siguro nakapasa ka sa bar dahil may kakilala ka sa Civil Service office. Typical utak Pinoy ka gaya ni Dionisia Pacguiao-ayw tanggapin na talo. Laging may dahilan-nagpalit ng religion, dinaya, Si Rufus dufus Rodriguez-kung anu-ano ang dahilan niya, at ito naman si ImBOBOng, unconstitutional. Please hand these people their milk bottle and pacifier to calm them down. You ought to act your age. Walang tampuhan. You are a bunch of whiners. 

    One thing more I want to say to thank you, Mr. President Aquino. You delivered on your promise to support the bill, despite excommunication threats of the CBCP. You will probably go down in Philippine history as the smartest Philippine president. Thank you very much.

    I also want to express my heartfelt thanks to Senatong S-otot for helping the cause of the Pro-Rh with his downright stupidity in resorting to plagiarism. Salamat, po, sir S-otot. You will probably go down in Philippine history as the dumbest Philppine senator. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/danilo.navarro.946 Danilo Navarro

    whoooo.ayaw talagang tumigil ng mga hinayupak..

  • UrHONOR

    WASTING peoples’ money……madalas gawin ng mg a nakasayang-puti’t helmet DAHIL HINDI NAGBABAYAD NG BUWIS! Kabi-kabila any ginagawang PAG-AAKSAYA ng pera at napakahalagang resources o yaman ng bayan…..at WALANG PAKIALAM sa pagtapon ng kaban ng bayan sa pamamagitan ng pagtugis ng mga bagay na maliwanag pa sa mga nuo’ ng mga TNL na bisyaps na GUSTO ng sambayanan at AYAW ng mga TNL na free-loaders, tax-free Crying Buffoons of the Phil.

    • ApoLapullapu

      Obispo ba ang nag file ng petition?

      • UrHONOR

        ANO sa palagay mo?

  • blainz

    Motion to dismiss… for utter stupidity. Suit in “behalf of their two children”… really?!?

    The CBCP should come up with the suit themselves and not leave it to their brainwashed minions. Let’s see if the bishops have the courage to argue theology before the courts. Interesting to see them explain why the Philippines should have less rights on RH than Spain and Italy, which have equivalent laws, and are the source of this “vaunted culture”.

  • UrHONOR

    FOR all we know the named couple is NON-CATHOLIC and both are kaTOLiks out to smear and destroy the “VENEREA……..VENERABOL” name of da tserts. SPY vs spy. Muy possible.

  • brunogiordano

    “Couple asks SC to declare RH law illegal”

    EXERCISE IN FUTILITY!!!!!!!!

  • boi skater

    Somebody should sue the CBCP (for plagiarism) for using the red ribbon to symbolise their cause. The red ribbon is a recognized symbol for the fight against AIDS and has been is use for decades now. This case is a waste of our courts’ resources. The courts can’t overturn a law that has been debated for 14 years and approved by the Congress, the president and the vast majority of the people. The RH bill is law; deal with it because that is reality.

    • http://www.facebook.com/danilo.navarro.946 Danilo Navarro

      papa ano dadami ang ilalagay nilang red ribbon nag hihinayang sa gastos isipin mo boong pilipinas na bawat puno at bahay o poste lalagyan ng red ribbon mag mumukha tayong kumunista niyan o di kaya tatawagin ang philippines ay red ribbon country..he he he buti na lang kakaunti ng baka kung gaya noon naku daming masusuwag

      • ApoLapullapu

        Mas mura ang condom kay sa ribbons?

  • Komen To

    In a democracy, everyone is entitled to seek relief from the courts, and the courts decide with blindfolds. Rather than uttering stupid comments, let the wheels of justice roll. The manufacturers of condoms and pills are patiently waiting as well. It’s a billion dollar business, in case you do not know and we are just actors in their cinematic movie

  • http://www.facebook.com/mae.heredia Mae Heredia-VandenDungen

    It is not a question of being a Catholic or not…it is a question of being ignorant or not of the law and constitution of our country fought for by Her Excellency President Corazon Aquino in 1987…may she continue guiding our country to the right path…it is a question of life or death… mother and child whether a day old or not is still her child.. both deserve equal rights to life.

    • brunogiordano

      Recent events showed na na-scammed lang palal si Cory ng mga sinugaling na mga pari, obispo at cardinals na ngayon ay mga naliligaw na ng landas.

      Buti na lang ang kanyang anak ay natauhan ng mabulgar at mabisto ang mga kasinugalingan sinabi nila laban sa RH.

  • Matashari

    Awww, why do they always have such sweet names like “Lovely-Ann”, reminds me of Chastity Pariah. Peace ;)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MXOWXSFICOTS2EABQMULUO7UTY Rommel Jason

    The suit filed is defective from its premise that  it is violative of the constitution. They cite the phrase, “life from the moment of conception” but if they read the RH Law, the protection of the fertilized ovum is part of it as no abortifacient is allowed and anything that interferes with the fertilized ovum is banned. I HOPE THE ANTI RH PROTESTORS WOULD READ UP ON WHAT THEY ARE PROTESTING ABOUT BEFORE MAKING ANY COMMENT TO MAKE FOR INTELLIGIBLE ARGUMENTS.

    • ApoLapullapu

      The case has been filed. Please refrain from commenting on the merits of a sub-judicial question.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MXOWXSFICOTS2EABQMULUO7UTY Rommel Jason

        Just because you cannot contravene my argument, I need to keep quiet? By the way, sub judice rule applies to contentious (read: subjective) issues. That the basis of the suit is the phrase “life from the moment of conception” and that abortifacients or anything that interferes with the fertilized ovum is banned, are infact statements of fact and cannot therefore qualify under the subjudice rule. As I plead before, PLEASE READ THE FACTS BEFORE COMMENTING

  • erlichdiaz

    The fight against the RH law should not be in the Supreme Court. I don’t believe it will be declared unconstitutional. When the government starts implementing using its resources, the Church should likewise use its resources to campaign for natural family planning even more among its flocks and discourage the use of contraceptives. Isn’t the Catholic Church among the richest landowners in the Philippines? It has enough resources and therefore they can fight on the ground among its faithfuls to ensure the RH law becomes ineffective. To fight the law in the supreme court is mere grandstanding. The bishops just wanted to stay at the limelight.

  • simondj

    ang problema po ng tao ay,,, kulang ang buhay natin (80 or 90 years) para patunayan na tama ang mga haka haka natin. siguro kung may isang tao na mabubuhay ng 200 years old, malalaman niya kung tama ang RH law. samantala ang population control po ay bata pa,,, siguro sa ibang bansa ay 70 years, sa iba naman ay 50 yeras at sa iba naman ay 30 years lang katulad ng china,,, ang china po ngayon ay shortage na po ng manpower particularly sa labor force. ang amerika at ibang bansa sa europa ganoon din.
    ang tanong lo po ay ganito ,, mas matalino ba ang tao kaysa sa Diyos?

    • brunogiordano

      “Siguro kung may isang tao na mabubuhay ng 200 years old,”

      Mayroon hindi lang isa, ‘yong mga conservative/fundamentalist na naninirahan sa VATICAN at ‘yong mga pari, obispo at cardinal at ang mga alipin nila na naniniwala pa rin sa MORALIDAD na 200 years behind.

      Iyan ay sangayon kay CARDINAL MARTINI.

      • simondj

        Brunogiordano, sana bata kapa para masaksihan mo ang mangyayari sa dulot ng RH LAW  na iyan.

      • brunogiordano

        “Brunogiordano, sana bata kapa para masaksihan mo ang mangyayari sa dulot ng RH LAW na iyan.”

        Isa ka rin bang DOOMSAYERS????

        Lahat ng mga DOOMSAYERS ay SCAMMERS.

        Lahat ng hula ay walang nagkatotoo.

    • IsipPinoy

      I’d rather have a Philippines that is labor importer than exporter. Nakita natin ang catasthropic effect ng unchecked population growth in so short period of time. Dapat mabawasan muna ang pagdami ng mga Pilipino at hayaan munang umunlad ang ating bansa.

    • wawangpenoy

       Saan mo ba pinagkukuha yang mga statistics mo? Bakit mataas ang unemployment rate ng mga bansang sinasabi mong may shortage ng manpower. In fact, there is no nation in the world that has a 0% unemployment. Paki paliwanag nga para naman di ka magmukhang tanga katulad ng mga obispo.

    • tamumd

      Please don’t make up things if you’re not sure of what you’re talking about. It only illustrate that you’re one of those fabricators of lies. Show us evidence that there’s shortage of workers in the US!

      You god concept is a creation of human beings. So humans are more intelligent than your made-up deity.

  • andrew lim

    If any of the arguments stated by the Imbongs had any merit, the anti-RH congressmen and senators (many of whom are lawyers and constitutionalists) could have raised their objections during the interpellations and committee hearings.

    But Lagman, et al had foreseen all this; they had refined the bill to have no constitutional defects.

    So Imbong is just wasting his time.

    • vinzerx

      Or looking for a way to be known. He might be needing the boost in his legal business.

  • Uwe24

    There are a lot of out-of-the-world idiots who are now filing cases against the RH bill. The perverted bishop in Naga can be happy.
    I’m just concerned about the poor who really doesn’t know better. The RH bill would give them some alternatives in regulating their numbers of children and even teach their children about what’s that with sex and when the children are made.
    If you have a lot of money you can afford to have more children but if you don’t know about where to get your next meal and your only pleasure is to make love with your wife who somehow gives birth every year. You’ll hardly be able to take care of your pack of kids.
    This ignorant, hypocrites who are against the RH bill should spent a month under the conditions these members of the population endure and if they are still against it, I might accept their point of view.
    Regarding the people the country can accommodate: Well, it’s quite different if you put people in it like sardines in a can or if you want the country to feed them, too. If the country should feed the people, you have to maintain agricultural areas, unlike now where the best spaces are concreted with new subdivisions and settlements. You have to keep forests, so that the air is cleaned and water is stored to fill the rivers. You have to provide dump sites to deposit the garbage and you’ve to install sewage utilities to regenerate the waste water. These last provisions are for avoiding the people getting poisoned by their own waste.
    All that requires space and EDUCATION! So, how about teaching the people? If we follow “mr. pervert bishop of Naga” the smartest people are going abroad to send money and the Philippines will just remain as a breeding ground for OFWs. Does anyone really think, that you can make a country prosper by just being a breeding ground?
    If you want to make the country flourish it has to be more than that. It has to be smart, well educated and filled with skilled workers and teachers! By just praying and waiting for God to settle your problems you’ll drive it down the drain. If you’re God’s child you have to help yourself. That includes that you’ve to accept that the overwhelming part of the population has a lack of sexual education. The poorest have the most children and that’s a death cycle. It creates an even poorer next generation and starving or dying children.
    Accept the new law and shut up you hypocrites!!!

    • IsipPinoy

       Well said.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

      Words of the Wise.

    • Ommm

       Leave it to a couple of lawyers to waste the courts time on this frivolous lawsuit… they are the reason our legal system is at a standstill.

  • ApoLapullapu

    This case will now test the independence of the Court.  Note that the Chief Justice was an appointee of the incumbent President.

    • joshmale2004

      She is just 1 vote count. Note further that there are still 7 justices appointed by the previous President. Add to that 3 Senior Judges who were bypassed by Sereno. In total there are 10 possible judges who will not side with President Aquino on this one using their own interpretation of the Constitution.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    When the RH Bill was approved in ITALY in 1970, the pope was QUIET.

    Why are these lowly bishops so NOISY?

    • ApoLapullapu

      The Complainant in this instant case is not a bishop.  Why mention the bishops here?

      • IsipPinoy

         Oh! Come on.

      • Ed Molina

        he never said the complainant is a bishop. read his post again and you’ll get your answer (it’s just a 2-liner, i’m sure it’s not that hard to comprehend).

      • marionics

        but if you are anti rh, then it WOULD be hard to comprehend he he

  • marionics

    bilib din ako sa mga anti. each and every time na may news report on rh may mga bagong username na sumisipot pero same old arguments naman. hoooo puro recycled commentors bwahahaha

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DRPDHM3N4D26XYLAKFNEQZ4CWQ Marlon Garcia

    Pro Life laban magkaisa sa darating na election wag iboto ang mga congressmen at senador na bumoto para maaprubhan ang RH Bill tuloy-tuloy ang rally at protesta! Laban!

    • joshmale2004

      So, ano naman ang mangyayari sa Pinas sa susunod na 3 years kung ang basehan lang ng pagbot natin ay PRO and ANTI stand ng mga candidates. Tapos pag palpak naiboto nyo dahil ANTI eh isisi nyo kay Pnoy pag nangurakot siya sa bayan nyo.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/EAWQCV6E2OFOH2YKTTSLUOKATY Jimenez

        Dahil yan ang pwedeng basehan ng Morality ng isang politiko… Best example, Pia Cayetano.. “pleasurable sex” daw.. sa tingin mo ba may moral ang taong yan?

        Magisip-isip ka na kung may anak kang dalaga.. Baka sex dito, sex doon ang gawin nyan… basta may condom at pills..

      • joshmale2004

        That’s the point of view from someone with loose morals. You need to classify sex between a legally married couple and outside married sex. it depends on your purpose. When I am talking about enjoyable, pleasurable and satisfying sex, I am referring about married sex. A sex between husband and wife. I will never agree nor condone outside marriage sex. For a legally married couple, God’s purpose for them is to have enjoyable married life including sex. If God’s intent for sex is for production, then he would not have made sex enjoyable. But only hyprocrites will insists that when they are having sex with their wife, they only feel normal and obligated and just for producing baby only. Aminin ninyo na kahit anti kayo, nasasarapan kayong makipag sex sa asawa nyo. If indeed you only have sex with your wife.

      • joshmale2004

        That’s the point of view from someone with loose morals. You need to classify sex between a legally married couple and outside married sex. it depends on your purpose. When I am talking about enjoyable, pleasurable and satisfying sex, I am referring about married sex. A sex between husband and wife. I will never agree nor condone outside marriage sex nor pre-marital sex. For a legally married couple, God’s purpose for them is to have enjoyable married life including sex. If God’s intent for sex is for production only, then he would not have made sex pleasurable and enjoyable. But only hyprocrites will insists that when they are having sex with their wife, they only feel normal and obligated and just for producing baby only. Aminin ninyo na kahit anti kayo, nasasarapan kayong makipag sex sa asawa nyo. If indeed you only have sex with your wife and no other else.

  • K8

    this couple is just a nuisance. when will the catholic church stop misleading the people that the RH Law is not about abortion??!

    they want parents to raise their children humanely? tell that to parents with 6-12 children who can’t provide decent food, shelter, and education! is the catholic church helping them?? they’re just all talk!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XALR35ENV2XKV327BZGZ7Q5Z5Q Ernesto

    dapat tulongan ng katolikong pari  ang mga bata sa lansangan kasi subrang dami na,baka gusto din nila dumami.

  • willbillywilly

    To the anti RH bill advocates. You have stormed the heavens with your prayers for the past months & yet the bill was passed. Now, all of a sudden you lost faith in heavenly spirits & rather rely on mere human beings for a favorable decision. Dont you think its the will of God that it be implemented after all.

  • Ruth Zubel

    Since when became illegal protecting women’s health and life. Tama Lang ang batas na yan at sa pag lubo ng population ng mga filipino. Old Pinoy tradisyon? ibig sabihin pababayaan mong laging may namamatay dahil sa panganganak at e.responsible parenthood….

  • hustlergalore

    Pro-Life is a party-list group?

    seriously?

    LOL

    • joshmale2004

      So now, it boils down to their interest in having a pork barrel which explains why they are capitalizing on the RH Bill to gain public notice. And the ANTI supporters are being utilized for their entry into politics.

  • mangtom

    ImBOBOng and txtman(woman)-pitiful. Cannot accept defeat gracefully. Admit that you are losers. Period.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AYITA5V33GYZSLC3G37UCVNTKA Ben

    Lawyers James Imbong and wife Lovely-Ann, who filed the suit on behalf of their two children and the Magnificat Child Development Center Inc., asked the high tribunal to stop the implementation of Republic Act No. 10354, saying it was unconstitutional.
    The Imbongs claimed the law also “mocks the nation’s Filipino culture—noble and lofty in its values and holdings on life, motherhood and family.”

    What is unconsititutional for RH when it seeks better lives for those in majority who are marginalized through control of manufacturing children whom they could not support? the state upholds separation of Church and the state….therefore you will lose.

    “He said the country needed to continue to respect the words of the 1987 Constitution, especially those about honoring life, family and spiritual morality—principles that he noted were absent from the reproductive health law”.

    Spirituality can not be legislated for there are other religion here in the Philippines and therefore the state has the power to enact laws that are not in favor of any religion whether it is Roman Catholicism, Muslim or Budhism..therefore in the law spirituality is absent.

  • BurgerBeacon

    If we are to check the Bible, we can see parents practice responsible parenthood.

    Example 1:  These three siblings: Martha, Mary and Lazarus belonged to a poor family.  Their parents have understood their financial state hence decided to only have three chidlren.

    Example 2: Jacob had twelve children.  Having twelve children was not an issue with Jacob since he was rich anyway.

    Exmaple 3:  Job had ten children.  He was filthy rich so it was not issue to have ten. 

    Neither did God rebuke those who have less children:

    Noah: 3
    Moses: 2
    Joseph (son of Jacob): 2

    1 Timothy 5:8
    “Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.”

    Bottomline: 
     
    You can have as many children as you want as long as you can provide for their needs, support them and train them to become decent, responsible members of society.

    I could not understand why some ANTI-RH people could not move on and find the RH Law unacceptable when these law will not be even imposed to anyone.  If a couple decides to do family planning or not, it’s up to them…  I even doubt if these very vocal ANTI-RH people have read the entire law or at least half of it.

    • Jane Tan

      That’s because they are the fake Catholics who have not even read the entire Bible like some of us have. It’s so easy to quote from the first few pages but to read and understand the Bible in its entirety is something else.

      Here are some more verses for responsible parenthood – Ephesians 4:15, Colossians 1:28

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Hahaha, now you seem to be knowledge on the bible than the Catholics. Remember it was the Catholic Church which identified the inspired books on the bible and not you! 

        Now, you claim to be better than those who collected and safeguarded the books of the bible! 

        Wala stik! You might be out of your mind! When did Luther started reading the bible? Your pastors and you, when did you start reading your FAKE bible?

        The Church was there before the books of the bible were compiled and declared as holy inspired by the holy spirit!

        Wala stik!!!

      • taga_ilog

        hehehe, FYI, a survey in the US said that atheists know more about the bible that catholics do. sorry to burst your bubble.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        hahaha! knowing does not mean you have the wisdom!

      • taga_ilog

        and you mean to say that the catholic church teaches wisdom?? I assume you are a catholic but I’ve yet to see wisdom from you.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EAWQCV6E2OFOH2YKTTSLUOKATY Jimenez

      Funny and senseless view.. Where in the bible says that the parent of those (you’ve mention example 1 – 3) were using condoms and contraceptives? Nothing! It’s just your own interpretation!

      1 Tim 5:8 Says that YOU MUST BE A GOOD PROVIDER! It doesnt says you have to use Condoms! or Contraceptives!.. HAHA!

      • BurgerBeacon

        Kasi, hindi ka nagbasa ng RH Law, hahaha….

        Responsible parenthood is not necesarily using condoms and contraceptives.  This is a no brainer. 

        Buti na lang at napasa ito bilang batas.  It survived noisy moronic and idiotic scrutiny, haha…

      • joshmale2004

        Off course there is no condom during ancient time. bottomline is they were also practicing family planning method and whatever method they were using during that time is still birth control method. And it does not say in the bible. neither the use of Natural method. The bible also did not say that condom and contraceptive was illegal.

      • vendetta07

        this is from http://www gotquestions org/birth-control.html

         “The closest that Scripture comes to condemning birth control is Genesis
        chapter 38, the account of Judah’s sons Er and Onan. Er married a woman
        named Tamar, but he was wicked and the Lord put him to death, leaving
        Tamar with no husband or children. Tamar was given in marriage to Er’s
        brother, Onan, in accordance with the law of levirate marriage in Deuteronomy 25:5-6.
        Onan did not want to split his inheritance with any child that he might
        produce on his brother’s behalf, so he practiced the oldest form of
        birth control, withdrawal. Genesis 38:10
        says, “What he did was wicked in the LORD’s sight; so He put him to
        death also.” Onan’s motivation was selfish; he used Tamar for his own
        pleasure, but refused to perform his legal duty of creating an heir for
        his deceased brother. This passage is often used as evidence that God
        does not approve of birth control. However, it was not the act of
        contraception that caused the Lord to put Onan to death; it was Onan’s
        selfish motives behind the action. Therefore, we can find no biblical
        admonition against the use of birth control in and of itself”

      • BurgerBeacon

        Please don’t expect ANTI-RH people to accept this fact.  Your comment is too taxing for them to read and too heavy to consider and analyze…

      • AllinLawisFair

        Onanism?

      • vendetta07

        thank you for reading it

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OXAZFHCT6QUOIEVEKIIYT3LQIY Jose

        tHAT WHY MR. JIMENEZ…INFORMATION IS THE KEY..THAT POPULATION CAN BE CONTROLLED, CONDOM OR WITHOUT COMDOM.

  • BurgerBeacon

    Tanong ko po sa mga ANTI-RH people, kung sakaling papanigan ng Supreme Court ang RH Law, ano po ba ang gagawin ninyo? 

    Dalawa lang po ang pwedeng sagot:

    a. Tumahimik at mag move on

    b. Magbigti

  • Anton Bautista

    This is all about money now.  I have posted before against the RH Bill.  And I will say it here again.  I am not against the principle behind the Bill.  What I believe will happen is we will toss down BILLIONS of pesos down a sink hole.  This is  another pork barrel source for Tongressmen and Siranetors to delve into.  Not to mention corrupt and inept government officials. The RH bill is a SHAM.  I don’t care for it one bit because I believe it is superfluous in the first place. Everything in the bill could have been done with or without the law in the first place. Pass the more important bills like the Freedom of information bill or the law to decriminalize Libel already.  The RH debate is just one enormously expensive joke at our expense!!!

    • Jane Tan

      Pfft… Everything can be subjected to corruption. Even if the FOI is enacted, what are the guarantees that the exact information is presented? Anything can be forged these days. Its the same argument. Just because THERE’S A CHANCE that a law will be subjected to corruption, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be enacted. Look at our requirements for Presidency – if we adopted Singapore’s requirements in order to run for presidency, we’d get people like Erap and GMA as our leaders?

    • tadasolo

      Have faith(ignore bible quotations for a minute) let the RH Bills debated for the last 14 years and now a law should be given enough time to take its course “corruption or not”. Let us do the math regarding corruption. Assuming the program reduces the number unwantted kids and reduces out population to the rate of Vietnam(1.08) or Indonesia(1.07)  from the current rate of 1.9 for the Philippines for comparison which is very realistic. On a yearly basis this will be a reduction of 1.9 minus 1.08 is equivalent to a reduction of 800,000 new kids to be educated and fed. Assuming 60% of these kids  live below the poverty level which is equivalent to 480,000 kids new kids yearly have to provided and supported with new classrooms and more. On the basis of 50 kids per classroom we need to built 9600 new classrooms each year. Assuming it cost to built 500,000 pesos one classroom. 500,000 times 9600 is equal to 4.8 Billion pesos to built new classrooms per year. We need 9600 new teachers at a cost of 500,000 pesos per year and that is another 4.8 billion pesos.

      For 12 years we will save 70 billion pesos excluding the cost of books for the 480,000 kids.

      How much do you think it will cost for condom and contraceptives??? I am not being cold hearted but these are hard numbers that cannot be ignored. Besides we can improved our level of education with less to support and make our kids competed internationally in the global industry instead of being domestic workers, BOP service workers, home care etc.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OXAZFHCT6QUOIEVEKIIYT3LQIY Jose

      LETS GIVE THEM A CHANCE…LETS SEE HOW IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED.

  • akimaxx

    Sadly, more of these strategies by the Philippine Catholic Church— to fight and control our government. To our ambassador in Vatican, demand an open letter to the Pope advising how our bishops and church members must react to the policies of our government. The Pope, being the leader of Roman Catholicism around the world, can end this RH issue. Let’s test his infallibility.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      What can the Pope do?  Cardinals, Bishops, Priests do not obey the Pope.  For instance, the Pope did not allow Cardinal Sin and CBCP to oust Erap but they still went through with their evil plan and succeeded.

      • joshmale2004

        The overthrow of Erap was a well planned coup de grace 1 year in the making. I had a buddy who is inside the circle of the Makati Business Club predicting Erap will be ousted 1 year before it happened. Accordingly, GMA, boy Saycon, CBCP, Catholic church, some AFP Generals and the Makati Business Club were in constant planning for 1 year how to cripple the economy that will lead to Erap’s downfall. Chavit Singson was just a blessing in disguise.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OXAZFHCT6QUOIEVEKIIYT3LQIY Jose

        tHATS TRUE…BUT LOOK WHO REPLACE ERAP…THE WORSE THAT OUR COUTRY HAVE THE GREATEST CORRUPTION OF ALL TIMES. DON’T TRUST TOO MUCH WITH CBCP, IS THEIR ANY ACCOUNTING TO THE AID GIVEN BY THE USA FILIPINOS DURING THE CALAMAMITIES WE HAVE? NADA.

      • joshmale2004

        Agree. It was my mistake supporting GMA’s group during that time.

      • akimaxx

        Yes Noel, I agree. Erap’s case was political but RH Bill was a moral issue according to the Katolicos. Now, I want the Pope to speak, let’s see if they’re going to listen and as I’ve said— let’s test the infallibility of the Pope.

  • Van

    Okay lang daw na dumami ang mga paslit na nagugutom sa lansangan na walang tirahan at hindi makapagaral…

    • joshmale2004

      Hindi naman nila sinabing ok pre. Ang sabi nila, yun ang utos ng Diyos. Hehe.

      • llll0000

        they make it sound like they talk to God everyday. 

      • huseng_batute

         Ang hirap kasi sa ibang tao, hindi maintindihan na hindi para sa kanila ang utos.  Sila Noah ang inutusan ng “humayo kayo at magpakadami”, hindi tayo.

      • rayingga

         Hindi si Noah si Adam & Eve

    • Jane Tan

      Its okay to suffer and die as long as you are born. Its okay to be stupid as long as you are free. Only in the Philippines.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        So your stupid! 

        Stupid stupid!

      • Jane Tan

        Coming from the person opposed to education and knowledge. Which one of us wants to stay in the medieval ages? Certainly not me.

  • wawangpenoy

    HOY!!! Sa mga taong nagsasabi na may shortage ng adult population sa mga bansang binabanggit ninyo, can you please explain why the unemployment rate in those countries are high? In fact, how is it that there is no nation in the world that has a 0% unemployment kung totoo ang panankot  ninyo na ang mga bansang nag implement ng RH at nauubusan ng adult population.

    Sige nga. Paki paliwanag ng mabuti. GOOD LUCK!!! you morons

    • boomvilla

      hoy mormon, este morcon, ay MORON pala ajejeje tanga!

  • wawangpenoy

    .

  • wawangpenoy

    IGNORE ALL THE DOTS UNDER MY NAME. DISQUS IS SCREWING ME UP

    • wawangpenoy

      .

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    This is democracy! They can do their thing; you can do yours! Whining makes all of you sour losers!

    Anyway, its understood. Mad dogs do all the barking!

    • wawangpenoy

       SORE LOOSER, you are indeed.

    • Jane Tan

      coming from a person still whining about a law that has already been passed through a majority vote.

    • vendetta07

      right.  people who agree with RH can use it, and people who disagree can avoid it, what’s so hard about that?

  • boomvilla

    MGA UNGGOK, HINDI PA KAYO TAPOS

  • Jane Tan

    I find it disturbing that actual parents with actual kids would complain about the provision that “the State shall also promote openness to life; provided that parents bring forth to the world only those children whom they can raise in a truly humane way.”

    Is abandoning a child your idea of “recognizing the sanctity of family life and protecting and strengthening the family as a basic autonomous social institution”? How is it upholding family values when you have to starve your child or have them sniff rugby to curb their hunger because you can’t afford to feed them? How can these people even be considered parents when they advocate the idea that the State will only protect life until the child is born, and it doesn’t matter where it ends up?

    And what is this BS of targeting the poor? If the country is going to enact a law that will encompass the entire nation, why shouldn’t it be available to the poor? Are you anti-poor? Are you against the idea that the taxes you are paying are going to help the poor? There are middle-class people who don’t even know what a condom is, how can you say that it won’t benefit them either?

    Newsflash, it seems like it targets the poor because there are so many who are poverty-stricken. Are we going to have another law that only applies to the rich who can afford it, like the provision on annulment? You must pay P50,000 to avail of family-planning services?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    Ignatius of Antioch
    “Be not deceived, my brethren: If anyone follows a maker of schism [i.e., is a schismatic], he does not inherit the kingdom of God; if anyone walks in strange doctrine [i.e., is a heretic], he has no part in the passion [of Christ]. Take care, then, to use one Eucharist, so that whatever you do, you do according to God: For there is one flesh of our Lord Jesus Christ, and one cup in the union of his blood; one altar, as there is one bishop, with the presbytery and my fellow servants, the deacons” (Letter to the Philadelphians 3:3–4:1 [A.D. 110]). 

    Jerome”Heretics bring sentence upon themselves since they by their own choice withdraw from the Church, a withdrawal which, since they are aware of it, constitutes damnation. Between heresy and schism there is this difference: that heresy involves perverse doctrine, while schism separates one from the Church on account of disagreement with the bishop. Nevertheless, there is no schism which does not trump up a heresy to justify its departure from the Church” (Commentary on Titus 3:10–11 [A.D. 386]).

    However, for those who knowingly and deliberately (that is, not out of innocent ignorance) commit the sins of heresy (rejecting divinely revealed doctrine) or schism (separating from the Catholic Church and/or joining a schismatic church), no salvation would be possible until they repented and returned to live in Catholic unity. 

    • wawangpenoy

       HOGWASH!!!!

      • BurgerBeacon

        Paki explain na lang po kay mxsclxmxn ang salitang “Hogwash”, baka hindi siya familiar eh…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Hahaha, sino yun peke? peke na religion, peke na bible, may pastor pa na humihingi ng 10%!

        San na punta un 10%? Sa pamilya ng Pastor siempre! aho aho aho!!!

      • joshmale2004

        The Catholic bible was first printed in 1586 with many revisions from Code of Canon Law by Catholic. While the Hebrew Bible which is considered the original and the only Bible written by Apostles were first discovered written in the 3rd Century.So sinong mas luma at sinong original?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Fool!
        Some of the books in the Hebrew Bible are part of the Old Testament. It was
        the Church that identified which books should be in the Old Testament and in
        the New Testament. Before the publication in 1582, there was already a bible in
        Latin. The Church has already the bible before pinanganak si Lolong Martin
        Luther nyo!

         

        This
        means, before the Protestants saw the light of day, the Catholics has already
        the bible! And the Protestants just copied and removed some of the books from the
        Catholic Bible and made their own bible to be divinely inspired daw!

         

        Kopya
        kopya puto maya, kinopya lang bible nyo, may bawas pa tapos sabihin nyo tunay
        bible nyo! Holy cow bowowow!

         

        May
        tama nga sa ulo mga ito! 

      • joshmale2004

        hehehe. Bakit ka napipikon. May tama ba? Pakita mo sequence ng mga dates mo para ma verify kung believable claims mo. Malay ko imbento mo lang na parang kuwentong barbero.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Hahaha, pikon ganun. : ) Yan smile pa ko. Hahaha mag search ka ng history mo! Better dont ask your pastor! Hahaha!

    • BurgerBeacon

      Is it Catholic doctrine na magparami ng anak at okay lang kung ginugutom ang mga anak dahil halos walang mapakain ang mga magulang?

      Are people who chose to have just two or three children committing heresy?

      Ano ba ang nagawa so far ng Catholic Church para ma ibsan ang kahirapan ng bansa?  Balita ko bilyon bilyon ang investment ng Roman Catholic Church ng Pilipinas sa stock market.  Para saan po ba ang investment na ito pupunta?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OXAZFHCT6QUOIEVEKIIYT3LQIY Jose

        SA BULSA NI PADRE DAMASO..WHERE ELSE..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Hahaha, na inggit sa di nya pera! Tyring to audit someone with no relationship to him!

      • joshmale2004

        Pansuhol nila mga perang yan kay San Pedro sakaling maligaw ng daan at di maikita puting pinto.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/2FGBMZTWMED25DREYB6HR7VX74 Rickie

        The Catholic Church is the largest charity, education and health provider in the world. You could say, it is one of the most expensive. It’s because, unlike the government, these establishments provide good services. They are expensive because the money are used for modernization programs of facilities and expert manpower. The government has failed in providing that for the people. Can’t you see that? That is the problem! The faults of the government, because they cannot provision the people with excellent services, they are now blaming it on the population.
        Local parishes organize livelihood programs for the poor, feeding programs, we even provide food for those in prison. The Catholic Church operates the oldest orphanages in the Philippines (older than the DSWD). Hospicio de San Jose is one of the oldest orphanages in Asia. Catholic Hospitals also accept promissory notes for those who cannot pay. Even after the patient has forgotten their obligations, these hospitals do not sue them. Catholic schools are expensive because they have good facilities, faculties of high standard that are “high maintenance”. They too accept promissory notes, having first-hand experience in this.

        By the way, I am enlivened by the fact, though RH is now a law, the sex education that they are planning will not be effective because of poor facilities, ill-equipped educators, high teacher-to-student ratio. RH would have been a lot scarier (but that does not mean I am already for it) for me as an Anti-RH if our educational system is not so poor. Money for contraceptives would have been more beneficial if it will be used for education.

        “Balita ko bilyon bilyon ang investment ng Roman Catholic Church ng Pilipinas sa stock market.”Saan mo naman napulot yan? Siguro sa mga biased din?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Ang kahirapan ng bansa ay problem ng govt. Tanong mo yan kay Pinoy ugok!

        Pero ma swerte ka, ang simbahan ay tinutulungan ang govt. But its the primary responsibility of the govt to alleviate the life of the poor!

    • http://twitter.com/Olibo2 Olibo

      ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZzzzzzzzzzzzzZ………………

    • joshmale2004

      The Catholic bible was first printed in 1586 with many revisions from Code of Canon Law by Catholic. While the Hebrew Bible which is considered the original and the only Bible written by Apostles were first discovered written in the 3rd Century.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OXAZFHCT6QUOIEVEKIIYT3LQIY Jose

      WHAT ARE YOU ALKING ABOUT…BE SIMPLE OF YOUR WORDS PLEASE..

  • http://twitter.com/Olibo2 Olibo

    The RH Bill is not the clear cut solution to economic problem of the Phils. But it will surely help to educate millions of couple, majority of them have no ideas what is responsible parenthood. Huwag  na kayong humirit baka mapagkamalan kayong abogadong peke. To all CBCP- IPISKUPAL : Give the Filipino people a Break.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SDB3SSQ3CG2EPO4WL4IAWDNCRY ark d

      ung nanay mo ba nkuhang mgbreak to her duty as your mother?? i doubt, the church could not have its break to allow this ideals to conquer the minds of the people.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MZOKC6X7Q52Z4E5VLYNB7GF72Y Kaloy

     Imbongs, who are they? Head of pro life group group?

    Their move is not surprising. Parehong utak ng mga obispo at paring ayaw sa RH bill na ngayon ay batas na.

    Kawawa naman ang mag-asawang ito na nagpapagamit sa mga bishops at pari.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OXAZFHCT6QUOIEVEKIIYT3LQIY Jose

      They are THE MISINFORMATION MACHINE OF FATHER DAMASO..

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NP6XTTJPU4RB6H5QVKHTRZPB7U Celestina

        Don’t generalize all priests in the name of FATHER DAMASO. It’s just like saying  that all priests are the same… and such action only shows how you are severely branding and judging others. You have no right for that. Whatever their sins are, only GOD will act as their judge, not you or anyone else. After all, we are not clean individuals who can just easily point fingers to whoever we want to.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NP6XTTJPU4RB6H5QVKHTRZPB7U Celestina

      Having the same way of thinking sa iba doesn’t necessarily mean na nagpapagamit na ang isang tao sa katulad nyang kaparehas nyang mag-isip. Ang daming nyong PRO-RH na pare-parehas mag-isip; does it mean na nagpapagamit din kayo sa mga promotor ng RH nyo? Hay nako.

  • mangtom

    BurgerBeaconCollapseTanong ko po sa mga ANTI-RH people, kung sakaling papanigan ng Supreme Court ang RH Law, ano po ba ang gagawin ninyo? Dalawa lang po ang pwedeng sagot:a. Tumahimik at mag move onb. MagbigtiSagut: Option b. with red rope; ribbon will break-he-he-he.

  • joshmale2004

    That’s the point of view from someone with loose morals. You need to classify sex between a legally married couple and outside married sex. it depends on your purpose. When I am talking about enjoyable, pleasurable and satisfying sex, I am referring about married sex. A sex between husband and wife. I will never agree nor condone outside marriage sex nor pre-marital sex. For a legally married couple, God’s purpose for them is to have enjoyable married life including sex. If God’s intent for sex is for production only, then he would not have made sex pleasurable and enjoyable. But only hyprocrites will insists that when they are having sex with their wife, they only feel normal and obligated and just for producing baby only. Aminin ninyo na kahit anti kayo, nasasarapan kayong makipag sex sa asawa nyo. If indeed you only have sex with your wife and no other else.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H47CPJUE4QYKFUCKSUXK3LNBGI Allan

      i think RH bill has nothing to do whether you are married or not. what it intends to do is make every mature filipino aware of the consequences of having sex, safer (there is no such thing as safe sex) or otherwise. walang kinalaman ang morality sa RH bill.

      • joshmale2004

        You are correct Allan. The RH Bill will depend on each individual’s understanding and applicability to themselves or their family. As for my view, I am not in conforme for married or single people if they use it for pre marital or outside their marriage. But that is also their right of choosing. Even if I don’t agree on some contents of the RH Bill, I don’t want it killed as the good benefit outweigh the things I don’t like. Besides, it is not an enforced law. Any one can be guided by it or not avail at all. As I said, let the Law be there and let the population decide for themselves if they will avail or not. The bill is not immoral but the people’s intention how and where they will use it will determine the user’s morality, and not the bill itself.

      • Jane Tan

        I will attest to who the RH Bill targets – the irresponsible and the ignorant. They have no reason to continue with their ways when this Bill goes into effect.

        Yes, we are now paying taxes to provide for people like Sotto, who fail at reading the instructions of a birth-control pill. Let us help the ignorant.

  • tadasolo

    although every Filipino have the right to petition the court, it highly moronic and arrogance of the tall order when this issue has been debated for the last 14 years amended with the concerns of those in support of life. Court might as well hear all the arguments soon and remove any doubt once for all the validity of this law and send a message to the clerical class and religious group that we hold dear the constitution and separation of state and church. The RH Bill is a Bill of Rights for the poor especially the women who will be given the choice as a matter of belief and conscience to make those moral decision best for themselves and their children without the influence and pressure of outside forces

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

    si imbong ay kamag anak ng isang nagtatrabaho for CBCP so alam na natin bakit at magkano.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NP6XTTJPU4RB6H5QVKHTRZPB7U Celestina

      Don’t judge.

      • Jane Tan

        Lol. The same way people assume that the votes were due to a pork barrel. Its the same here.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        I hope you re not complementing the stupid comment of Homer!

      • Jane Tan

        I’m commenting on the hypocritical comment of Celestina.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      Really? Alam mo? magkano nga ba?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EP6GZIMVLAHETQ6GNP5O2P45GE Dominic

    Expect a parade of these clowns. Let them exercise their constitutional rights, but do not, for an instance, believe in their foolish argument. Reading those arguments helped me even favor RH. Thanks Imbongs for further enlightening me on the merits of the bill (now RA). 

  • CyberPinoy

    These people dont know when to stop. The majority of the Filipino people has already spoken and we want RH Bill, why cant they just follow.  Ugaling pinoy talaga ayaw magpatalo at pasaway!

    • po6is777

      It is part of the democratic process. Hindi pa po tapos ang proseso. Hindi pa po final ang lahat. Kaya di ka pa dapat nagsasalita ng tapos. Hintayin natin ang resulta ng proseso sa korte bago tayo magmove on. OK? mukhang di mo alam ang democratic process ng bansang ito.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    Of course, the poor will be the primary beneficiary of the RH law. What’s wrong with that?

    The petitioners I guess are just following “instructions” from CBCP, which refuses to accept defeat, and the truth that its influence on the masses has ended.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NP6XTTJPU4RB6H5QVKHTRZPB7U Celestina

      If the poor people will have more jobs,better education, and good life after using those condoms and pills, that will be the time that this RH law will make sense. But NO. This law can only lessen the number of children of each family, but it won’t really help those poverty-stricken individuals to escape the low socioeconomic statuses of their lives. Whether you have 2 or 10 children, if the parents are not granted with education and stable jobs (that the government should provide), they will remain as poor as they are until their last breaths.

      • Jane Tan

        If you can provide the jobs, better education and good life that you are speaking of, I will help you fight the RH Bill. Otherwise, keep dreaming.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        You tell this to Pinoy! This is the primary job of the government and not the Church!

      • Jane Tan

        And this is their answer. To allow the economy to catch-up to the birth rate. I don’t need to tell this to Pnoy. He already gave me a solution. Unless someone else has a better idea. Easy to say “provide jobs”, HOW?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        That s a fact! Not a dream! 

        No education, no jobs? What do you get? Please don’t dream!

        Thanks Celestina!

  • BurgerBeacon

    Sa mga Anti-RH, dalawa lang po ang pwede ninyong gawin sakaling panigan ng Supreme Court ang RH Law:

    1) Tumahimik (mag move-on)

    2) Magbigti… (kung gusto ninyong mas dramatic at may impact, pwede ninyong gayahin ang mga nasa India na binubuhusan nila ang katawan nila ng gasolina at sunugin ang sarili nila sa harap ng madla).

    Kung pipiliin ninyo ang option 2, ang tiyak na mangyayari ay lalago ang funeral industry at nakatulong pa kayo sa ekonomiya ng bansa.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NP6XTTJPU4RB6H5QVKHTRZPB7U Celestina

      Is that the way how PRO-RHs think? From your point of view, you are just showing that you and the rest of your people are valuing the culture of death. If you think that lessening the size of human population is a solution to this country’s economic problems, then maybe you will also agree if you or your own family will be eliminated in this nation’s population. After all, that is what you want Anti-RHs to do, right? Why not tell the same thing (OPTION 2) to your love ones? You seemed very concerned about the progress of the Philippines anyway.

      • BurgerBeacon

        Dalawa lang po ang options ninyong mga Anti-RH, either 1 or 2.  If you don’t like option 2, then choose option 1, period : – )

      • Jane Tan

        And condemning a child to fend for itself out on the streets is your idea of valuing life? Maybe you should Google the definition of the word, “sadist”.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        That’s the problem of the govt but the Church can help. The govt should curb corruption so more mouths can be feed!

        Pork barrel is one great source of corruption! It should be removed! 

        Tongressman are not project managers but are law makers!

      • Jane Tan

        Easy to say. Not done. Make a separate claim going against corruption and I will support you on that. In the meantime, don’t bother bringing outlandish assumptions here.

        Maybe you should have been complaining when they were building those imaginary bridges.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        See you are agreeing on corruption! The govt is diverting the source of the problem! Its corruption! Clean the govt first of corruption and results can be seen! See how far are we from other Asian countries on corruption! We are No. 1!

        Remove the cancer from the govt first and people will start to live lives long lost!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        It s nice to know you defending the Church! 

  • Albert Einstien

    pro-rh people say …it is already a law… so why do you still want to stop the anti-rh to challenge it LEGALLY…if it is constitutional then it is final..but if declared unconstitutional then anti-rh are right from the beginning..we just wasted time, money  & effort…lol

    • Jane Tan

      Noone is stopping you from challenging it if your challenges actually make sense.

  • TinimbangNgunitKulang

    It is nearly impossible to undo centuries of indocrination that the pope, bishops and priests have the power to send souls to eternal damnation. This is the myth that they have tried to perpetuate in the minds of their followers so that their words to them will be strictly adhered to and obeyed. It is very traumatic for people to accept that these wolves in sheep’s clothing are no different when they are stripped of their costumes that had led many to think they are supermen.

    • joshmale2004

      Who goes to heaven or hell is not the Catholic Bishops to decide.This is a big fallacy.

      • boldyak

        Bishops never decide who goes to hell or to heaven, God don’t decide that you go to heaven or hell even he wants all to go to heaven, it is one’s decision either what path he/she takes…Bishops are like sheperds, they guide, they teach, it is up to you whether to follow them or not…if you don’t want to follow them, let others follow them…and by the way it is not you either who decide who goes to hell or heaven….lolz

      • joshmale2004

        Good. It’s good you accept the fact that Bishops don’t decide who gets to enter heaven. Now, I did not say I decide who goes to heaven. It’s also that Bishops for Catholics and Pastors for other religion can guide and teach but it’s not thru them that you go to heaven. whoever decide to want to go to heaven, it’s all in the Bible. You don’t need to be a bible scholar to know. You just need to read. You should also know if your Bishops are teaching you the right way because not all Bishops will automatically go to heaven. Bishop is only a title and not a license. They can also mis interpret what is taught in the bible.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NP6XTTJPU4RB6H5QVKHTRZPB7U Celestina

        What they teach are all reminders of what is morally right… They are not telling which goes to hell and which goes to heaven..of course only GOD knows that matter. They are just reminding us of the possible consequences that may likely occur if the bible teachings are not adhered to…And reminding/informing others about this matter is a moral responsibility of each and everyone of us, not only them. They want us to believe, yet they are not forcing us to do so…after all, they still value free will of human beings… People should not hate or judge their motives if they are fighting for RH bill, because that is their way of valuing lives and following God’s teachings… And yes, they are imperfect just like the rest of all men, but instead of  criticizing or mocking them, they should be included in our prayers… After all, what can human judgment do, except for destroying human relationships? All sinners, be it priests, nuns, government officials, or ordinary human beings, should be lifted to GOD in our prayers. Prayer changes everything, judgments don’t.

      • joshmale2004

        I will not argue with you on this as I do believe they teach good morals. I was just refuting a statement of one catholic here who thought otherwise. I can not also blame the people here for criticizing the bishops as they themselves are showing arrogance instead of humility which even Jesus Christ showed when he was teaching His people amid the vast anti God law of Caesar. I do believe that our Bishops could have convinced more people had they showed this humility while explaining the bad side of the RH Bill instead of appearing arrogant and threatening everyone of the wrath og God.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Go girl! Right on!

      • Baruk1

        That’s misleading. No verses in the Bible, that states we are going to heaven or to hell. In fact we will inherit the earth if we will qualify.

      • ed_nique

        but what of those who do not follow the bible? where do they go in the after life?

      • joshmale2004

        You know that already.

      • Baruk1

        All will be given a chance to understand God and follow Him. Kung matigas pa rin ang ulo — Finito.

      • Baruk1

        There is no such thing for human being to go to heaven or to hell in the Bible. Please read it again.

  • kilabot

    fearless prediction:
    1) the gay lion justice (leonen) will uphold the perversion; 
    2) cj lourdes is unstable. she can go either way depending on mood swings and lunar cycle; 
    3) delcastillo will adopt a decision he researched somewhere else; 
    4) if senior justices attend flag ceremonies, they will vote with cj lourdes; 
    5) noykapon will issue a veiled threat ordering sc justices to decide according to the norms of abnormal decency, delicadeza and their cons cience. this he does while one hand in his pocket pecker-playing. ubo ubo ubo; 
    otherwise, noykapon will force them to tread the straight path direct to hel l.

  • Fulpol

    from the eyes of a religious parents…

  • wawangpenoy

    This is how desperate and pathetic these bishops are. Scared to death that the irrelevance they’ve been relegated to, is slowly but surely, materializing. They have to resort to proxies. Eto namang mag-asawang ito, abogado pa naman pareho, paiikutin pa ang mga tao na ang filing of suit nila ay sariling kusa nila at walang kinalaman ang CBCP. Tell it to the marines, sabi nga. Although it’s too trivial, I’ll challenge you both anyway. Resign from whatever position you have with CBCP to do away with conflict of interest and you just might gain even the slightest credibility.

    Ang RHB ay non-imposing law. Kung tama ang paggabay at pagtuturo ng simbahan sa kanyang mga alagad, tagasunod, uto-uto,  ay alipores, ay alipin pala, ano ba talaga? (sorry, ano ba talaga ang tamang tagalog ng ‘flocks’?) balewala itong batas na ito. Ang mga sumusunod sa yapak ng simbahan ay susunod pa din regardless of any law.

    The bishop’s actuations, unbeknownst to them, are almost, if not already are, a public declaration that they are desperately loosing power and control over their flocks and that their teachings are no longer relevant with the times. Instead of practicing introspection and contrition amongst themselves, analyzing and dissecting what has gone wrong with the church leadership and formulate rectifications, they are actually hastening their oblivion. Right now, like it or not, you bishops are inconsequential.

    Utang na loob huwag nyo nang sayangin ang oras at pera ng gobyerno. Of course CBCP couldn’t care less ‘cuz they’re not paying taxes. 14 years and millions of pesos have already been wasted. Just save your energy and sanity for the next fight which is DIVORCE. Sobra na ang panggugulo ng ninyo.

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.aricia Benjamin Aricia Jr

      i agree with you sir

  • mamamia

    ABOGAGO

  • dickenhead

    tax the bastards

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2B6S6ETTF4MG66QIJIOASDC63E Hercules

    By supporting the RH Bill, politicians have killed their favorite scapegoat, which is overpopulation, on why the Philippines has remained poor despite the country’s abundant resources. If they are so concerned over the poor’s welfare, they should have renounced their pork barrels long ago and used their offices for everyone’s common good.

  • LalakeAko

    Affected kase ang livelihood ng CBCP kaya nag file ng petion sa SC.  Tsk, tsk… mga desperado at nagpapaloko sa mga Voturi.

  • melanioamarillo

    And so the first of the advent of lawsuits against the RH law was filed in the Supreme Court.
    To utilize the impact of the filing on new years’ day, that it shall signal the coming of more, maybe a deluge of lawsuits to fill the dockets of the High Court. Thus implementing the law may become difficult.  The first complainant, Atty James Ong, assisted by his mother, also a lawyer representing the CBCP. The petition  put more emphasis on the poor being placed at the receiving end and disadvantage. Whether or not the case is in favor of the poor, it is hard to tell.

    To me I strongly believe, the best thing I can do to help the poor is not to be one of them.

  • Ilving Tabios Zamora

    “May gamot sa mga sira-ulo.  Sa mga maka-babalaghang estupido, wala!”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YAU43R25CAHGNYPHE6HLAM3V6Y Benjamin

    Sa pangalan pa lang ng nitong mag-asawang ito mabaho na..IMBONG ..parang  TUMBONG…ANG BANTOT….

    • antonioluna

      nyahahaha

  • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.aricia Benjamin Aricia Jr

    mag-asawang sira-ulo!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BKDTKLW6CJNOHFFH3LY3YTPNHY Noshairalawever

    Clearly Atty. Imbong and his wife are merely doing this to somehow LEGITIMIZE their PARTY LIST. WHAT “MARGINALIZED SECTOR” DO YOU REPRESENT, HMMMMMMM? MGA ULUL!

    • tamumd

      I think..they’re more of a mercenary stand in for the CBCP to divert the fury of the public reaction to this lame petition. The CBCP and the catholic church cannot handle to be maligned so they are making the son and daughter-in-law of Jo Imbong – the legal counsel for the CBCP, the ‘sacrificial lambs”. lol However it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out the relationship of the Imbongs and the CBCP/catholic church. lol They are as intertwined as the chicken and the egg conundrum.

  • $31552910

    The intent of the RH law is not for the genuine health and well-being of Filipino poor families and women. The text of the RH law lacks sufficient legal guarantees to protect the health of Filipino men, women, and children from medical malpractice and unsafe or substandard pharmaceutical products. Overpopulation is the convenient scapegoat of those who want to preserve the unfair economic and political systems that pushed many poor and middle class families to extreme poverty. A large consumer market like the Philippines is not good for business when it is closed for business, like when there is a ban on dumping of toxic waste from foreign countries. The Philippines is not a dumping site for toxic waste. The RH law exposes vulnerable and poor Filipino families and women to what has been described as the “perfect crime.”

    The Medical Observer reported: “Among Filipino patients dying, not from their illness per se, but from unwittingly taking fake medicines, proper investigation and reporting of the true cause of death is usually the least of the surviving kin’s concerns. They thus become not only victims but unwitting accomplices to what has been labeled a ‘perfect crime’—drug counterfeiting… Asia is the biggest producer of counterfeit medicines, now a US$75-billion business worldwide, according to the World Health Organization. In the Philippines, the fake drugs are said to come from abroad and local sources.”1

    Science Direct reported: “Naturally cycling women exhibited enhanced memory of story details, but not of central information (gist), in the emotional compared with neutral story conditions. In contrast, women using hormonal contraception exhibited enhanced memory of gist, but not story details, in the emotional compared with neutral story conditions. Analysis of eye movements made while watching the stories indicated that the differences in memory could not be attributed either to a differential attention focus or to the degree of arousal induced by the stories in the two groups. These findings suggest that the use of hormonal contraception alters memory for an emotional event, perhaps by altering sex/stress hormone interactions in memory formation.”2

    Sources:
    1 “Hidden Proliferation,” Medical Observer. March 2011
    2 “Hormonal contraception usage is associated with altered memory for an emotional story,” Neurobiology of Learning and Memory. Volume 96, Issue 2. September 2011.

    • tamumd

      Hahahahaha..are you running out of crappy arguments against the RH law..you’re now resorting to some irrelevant reports and study results? What does RH law got something to do with “counterfeit drugs”? lol Beats me. Then you cited a study results that says ” this findings SUGGESTS that use of blah blah blah. Well this doesn’t establish direct cause and effect relationship. You don’t make sweeping conclusion based on one specious study. We don’t even know the sample size of the study, the control and blinding procedures..and just look at the study end point…”memory for emotional event”. lol what the heck. I think it’s a nice way..one could not remember if she was nasty or moody the previous day. lol Totally useless end point. And to make it appear ‘scientific” you included 2 sources. Hahahaha as if that make them so valid.

      • Jane Tan

        I don’t bother. He can’t even defend his posts. Why? It’s all copy paste. He just goes on Google and searches for “anti-RH arguments” and pastes whatever he hasn’t pasted yet. I doubt he even understands any of it.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Simple. He posted it for you to know. You can check it if true or not! Sources were supplied. You cant deny the truth!

      • joshmale2004

        You are reading but not comprehending properly. He is questioning the intent of the RH with a support argument on the subject of proliferation of fake contraceptive.

      • taga_ilog

        these people are hilarious!! lol!

      • Jane Tan

        Another non-reader. Please read the body. Not just the title and where he got it from. Sotto much?

      • taga_ilog

        well you can tell how selective his infos are, don;t bother with him na lang, intelligent discussion is not his thing.

    • joshmale2004

      The sample report you presented seem to indicate that the reason why some filipino women incur side effects and even death in using hormonal contraception is thru proliferation and use of fake or pirated pills probably coming from China. This is because our filipinas lack knowledge on contraceptions and also these fake drugs maybe much cheaper than the originals sold by licensed pharmaceuticals. due to their financial conditions, they are forced to buy these cheap contraceptives. That is the previous scenario before the RH Bill. Now that the RH Bill is introduced, women especially the sector where they can not buy genuine contraceptives will now have a chance to be fully educated and provided for by the RH Bill. Since, the Government will be the direct purchaser of these contraceptives and other methods to be used, then we can expect that they will buy only original medicines. I have never read any news nor any country who buys fake or pirated medicines to be given to its citizens.

    • MelorisV

      Repost ko lang… Tapos palitan ko yung pangalan…

      RFreemont is just a prime example of your typical anti-RH bill supporters. They are so fond of misinterpretation, delusional, and like to make up stories and spread lies.

  • BurgerBeacon

    Sa mga Anti-RH, kaunting exam lang po sa inyo just to be sure na may alam kayo sa RH Law:

    1)  True or False:  “R.H” stands for Republic Health

    2) True or False: RH Law REQUIRES all males to use condom during intercourse to prevent conception

    3) True or False: RH Law REQUIRES all pregnant women to submit themselves for abortion

    Kung ang sagot po ninyo sa tatlong tanong ay TRUE, utang na loob, magbigti na po kayo.  Aangat pa ang funeral industry at makakatulong pa kayo sa ekonomiya ng bansa…

    • GreenStallion

      Parang may mali sa tanong mo brod sa # 3. As what I read in the RH Bill passed it doesn’t says there that pregnant women “should submit for abortion”. This is a big blunder if your statement is taken out of the context. Wrong interpretation of the law is dangerous. Beware! So my answer to your above questions is all False : 1) FALSE (Its Reproductive Health Bill), 2) FALSE (its freewill for both sexes) & 3) FALSE (its not stated in the bill & this is against our constitution).   

      And please don’t accuse the ANTI-RH as ignorant of this law because cause it shows that you are need more guidance than them.

      • BurgerBeacon

        Kaya nga sagutin mo ng True or False eh kung tama ba o mali ang sentence.  Haist!  Thank you anyway for answering.  Ang ibang readers na ang mag judge sayo sa mga sagot mo.

      • taga_ilog

        Green, as I see it, that was not a real quiz but it was a way to inform the basics of RH. And besides, not all anti-RH knows this, I think this quiz is for them.

      • Ed Molina

        in case you didn’t get it, those are sarcastic questions and obviously the answer to all three are false.
        fyi lang, RH stands for Reproductive Health. now you know.

      • GreenStallion

        Yeah i sense it na sarcastic talaga ang question but in the light of truthfulness kailangan ma correct ang mga ganitong perception. We should think many times before we click.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        no wonder…sa mga tanong pa lang mali mali na…how can you come up with a correct answer?

        bobo din kasi ang nagtatanong!

      • BurgerBeacon

        Kaya nga TRUE or FALSE eh, kung may mali sa statement eh di FALSE.  Haaaaist!!  Ano ba kayong mga anti-RH.  Mag laslas na nga kayo ng mga pulso ninyo, haha…

  • joshmale2004

    You are correct Allan. The RH Bill will depend on each individual’s understanding and applicability to themselves or their family. As for my view, I am not in conforme for married or single people if they use it for pre marital or outside their marriage. But that is also their right of choosing. Even if I don’t agree on some contents of the RH Bill, I don’t want it killed as the good benefit outweigh the things I don’t like. Besides, it is not an enforced law. Any one can be guided by it or not avail at all. As I said, let the Law be there and let the population decide for themselves if they will avail or not. The bill is not immoral but the people’s intention how and where they will use it will determine the user’s morality, and not the bill itself.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      Hi Josh…just for info sake. May I know what Born Again Chapter do you belong? Marionics won’t tell his chapter or church. 

      • marionics

        he he but i did tell you

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C5RLWOY26ACBYCLHUEEJQ2ADVQ K Fun

    Mr Imbong and Mrs Lovely-Ann—you must be very rich and never experienced poverty.  Why dont you share your money with the poor and your names wont be mocked by the people.

  • BurgerBeacon

    Another very easy exam question for Anti-RH people:

    TRUE or FALSE:  Condoms are made of plastic material

    Ang magsasagot ng TRUE, please, maglaslas na po kayo ng inyong pulso…

  • bugoybanggers

    Puro reklamo kesyo abogado! Hayaan na munang ipatupad ang batas bago reklamo. Tingnan natin kung epektibo! Iyan ang mahirap sa ating mga PILIPINO kesyo kontra sa RH Law kakasa agad. Ipatupad muna natin, bago dakdak!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO!! BRAIN WASH PILIPINOS TO BE IDIOTS AND STUPID!

    • joshmale2004

      Sir I’ve been noticing a lot of your comments. Although probably we are both PRO RH, I don’t find it in good taste the way you are bashing the Catholic Church especially its Cardinal and Bishops. They maybe ANTI and most of the times act arrogant but it’s not also proper calling them names and profanities. I don’t believe these offensive words are the right way to win any arguments.I hope you are not offended by this but accept it as a friendly advice from a brother.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        You should hold your dog by its collar so it won’t bark and bark like a mad stupid dog! Train your dragon…ahe your dog I mean…just tell it, hey doggie don’t eat your shxt! 

      • marionics

        what you say is all very nice and i endeavor to do that myself. however, i am also for full freedom of expression and i believe that everyone can be as big an ásshole as he likes in his utterances. anyway, you will be seen from the words you say

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Approved! Train your dog!

      • marionics

        he he that refers to everyone including you hehe

      • taga_ilog

        even being nice is lost to these cretins hehehehe

      • marionics

        well as long as it is not lost on yourself he he

        but sometimes i can get mean too lalo na sa mga akala mo kung sisinong mga holier than though na kupal na zealots (they know who they are). i’m only human he he

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        …just for info sake. May I know what Born Again Chapter do you belong? 

        Well you know me, I am a Catholic. There is only one Catholic. Same bible, same faith, same belief, same leader, same church. That’ s why its called Catholic, its universal!Thanks.

      • marionics

        Oh, well I’m from the church of who gives a shít what you think or
        say. How’s that? He he

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        …hahaha…there you go! 

        If you could have said it nicely. I would appreciate it.

      • marionics

        that was nice

      • MelorisV

        Yeah, I agree. Instead of (ad hominem) “personal attacks” if we can refrain from it, then do so. Madaling mapikon ang mga anti-rh bill supporters usually pag wala na silang maisagot na tama at parang na-corner mo na. Mumurahin kanalang at magwawala. Lol! Lunurin mo sa facts, truth, at Science. Kailangan maimulat natin sa katotohanan ang mga ilang pang anti-RH bill na ang batas na ito ang tunay na Pro-Life and Pro-Women at hindi ang utos ng Simbahan (Roman Catholic Church).

  • $31552910

    “SEC. 15. Certificate of Compliance. – No marriage license shall be issued by the Local Civil Registrar unless the applicants present a Certificate of Compliance issued for free by the local Family Planning Office certifying that they had duly received adequate instructions and information on responsible parenthood, family planning, breastfeeding and infant nutrition. ”

    This section in the RH law is an infringement on the fundamental right to marry. Filipinos are being deprived of their freedom to make an informed choice. Poor families and women are being denied the opportunity to consult medical doctors or healthcare professionals of their choice on family planning matters to be issued a marriage license. The totalitarian Family Planning Office may not certify or may withhold vital information affecting the health of women like the following report. Scientific American reported: “Recent research suggests that the contraceptive pill—which prevents women from ovulating by fooling their body into believing it is pregnant—could affect which types of men women desire… Women who start or stop taking the pill, then, may be in for some relationship problems.”1

    Source:
    1. “Birth Control Pills Affect Women’s Taste in Men,” Scientific American. December 5, 2008.

    • tamumd

      Hahahahaha But you failed to cite this study results from the same paper published in March 27, 2012 issue. “Birth Control Pills Have Lasting Effects on Relationships ” I don’t believe any of this claim but here’s their conclusion. “Pill users were happier with their mate’s financial support and other nonsexual aspects of the relationship, however, and they were less likely to separate”. lol Preposterous claims..but contradicts what you’ve been citing.

      • Jane Tan

        Lol. Of course. I don’t think he read the entire paper. He just copy pasted whatever he thought would work.

      • taga_ilog

        Or more likely he just took what favors his belif and left the others thinking no one will research it anyway, the great lengths they will do to prove a point. it somehow saddens me to think the “moral” people would do that.

      • Twister12

        ala Sotto? heh he

      • tamumd

        lol

    • Jane Tan

      Executive Order No. 209 – The Family Code of the Philippines (July 6, 1987)
      Title One: Marriage
      Chapter One: Requisites of Marriage
      Article 3 – The formal requisites of a marriage are:
      1) Authority of the solemnizing officer
      2) A valid marriage license, where one of the requirements is ZOMG attending a family planning seminar

      “Poor families and women are being denied the opportunity to consult medical doctors or healthcare professionals of their choice on family planning matters to be issued a marriage license.” WTF? Lol… you expect, according to your words, poor people, to avail and pay for family planning matters on their own expense? Sir, families living in Bel-Air are not poor. Sorry to burst your ignorant bubble.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        How do you explain Sec 15 then?

        Yes, Bel-Air families were not mentioned because they are not poor. He was referring to the poor families only and not of those who can afford or are rich! The poor here are the victims!

      • Jane Tan

        Poor families will pay for family planning? I suggest you conduct a survey just how much these families you are speaking of are willing to spend, sir. And, read-up on sarcasm while you’re at it.

        As for explaining Sec 15, I just did. Attending a family planning seminar is already a requisite for marriage under our Constitution. Sec 15 merely makes it official, and to be conducted by trained individuals.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Hahaha…Certificate of Compliance issued for free <– free nga! You are arguing where there is no argument on it. Its free, its not being contested.

        issued for free by the local Family Planning Office <– couple is being denied the opportunity to consult medical doctors or healthcare professionals of their choice on family planning matters. This is the point. The Sec 15 wanted the local Family Plannong Office.

        Yun ang contrasting. Gets mo?

      • Jane Tan

        I know the point. My point is, if they are given the opportunity, are they going to do it? Thus my question, poor families will pay for family planning?

        Gets mo?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        …family planning is already there before the RH Bill. What the family needs is food on the table.

        Do you think the wife will take religiously the pills when her stomach is empty and her family  is hungry? 

        Have you gone to barrios and check the Health Center of the Barangays?

        My friend works in the Barangay Health Center. Problem of the families are food, shelter and education. Not condoms and pills. Yun condom dun ay pinapalobo lng pag may birthday! Yun pills, ayaw ng mga mahihirap kasi may epekto nga sa katawan ng babae, nkakalimutan nila pa inumin dahil pagkain un sa isip nila un na una. 

        Gets mo?

      • Twister12

        Kung ayaw nman nila ng pills or condoms pipilitin ba sila? The law is about access to these things not to force them to use it. Gets mo na?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        So its not absolute why put it into a law? It does not apply to all why make it a law?RH Bill is not needed, there is already Family Planning in health clinics!

      • Twister12

        Then stop whining & read the law so you will understand.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Wine!

      • Jane Tan

        Its to make sure the government and the lgus do their jobs. If someone charges for these supposedly free condoms, atleast there’s a law that will condemn them. And what do you care what gets put into the law if it doesn’t affect you since anti-rh are against using condoms? There are laws on murder, doesn’t mean everyone is doing it, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be a law.

      • motorcyclemama

        The Responsible Parenthood and Reproductive Health Act of 2012 (Republic Act No. 10354), informally known as the Reproductive Health Law, is a law in the Philippines which guarantees universal access to methods on contraception, fertility control, sexual education, and maternal care.

        Read guarantees.

        Anything that the state should provide must be stated in a law.

      • Jane Tan

        All the more reason future generations should know that they can end up like this. Not enough food because too many people.

        Your logic is like one of a logger that is okay with deforestation. Instead of decreasing the need, you increase the consumption.

        Bigyan mo sila ng pagkain. Okay. Pano yung anak nila? Bigyan din. Tapos kung naging parehas ang anak sa inay, bigyan parin. Its an exponential growth of donations required to satisfy the needy. Basically, your solution is to keep them in their place. Keep them surviving in poverty.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Hahaha…twisted logic! You have not gone to barrios even. 

        Not enough food because the family has many kids? – FalseNot enough food because the family has no livelihood. Father is not working; Father is a laborer earning less than the minimum. No work for the head of the family. – True. Very true. This is true in the sitios and puroks! Just watch Jessica Soho research on this! There is no work or livelihood for the family kahit isa lang anak nito!

      • Jane Tan

        And why do you think the father is earning less? Because there is no demand for what he does, because there are too many people with his skillset and not enough jobs. Stupid. It isn’t twisted logic. Its economics. Maybe you need to google “per capita income”.

      • marionics

        Here are some clues to check if a person posting has trollism.
        1. The person in question actually replies back to replies made to their comments.2. The person in question has multiple accounts but posts similar information with similar grammatical errors.3. The person in question will blame all and any problems on everything that has nothing to do with the problem itself.4. The person in question is very sensitive with issues regarding politics, immigration, race, religion, war, and/or conspiracy theories.5. The person in question will reply to other comments with a counter arguement that usually doesn’t counter argue at all.6. The person in question calls everyone else stupid and tries to correct other commenter’s grammar with their own unique grammar techniques.7. The person in question will state that the article being commented on (in the case of Yahoo) is worthless and the preson who wrote it should be fired. However, the troll will never state was is wrong with the article because they do not know why either.8. The person in question types in all capital letters.

      • MelorisV

        Ang iniisip lang kasi ni mxsclxmxn ay temporary (band-aid) solution. Hindi pangmatagalan at permanenteng solution. Once mabawasan yung mga “unplanned pregnancy” ng mga “poorest of the poor” giginhawa ng kahit papaano ang buhay nila. Pag nagtuloy tuloy pa ng maayos programa ng RH bill at successful, yung resources o pondo ng gobyerno ay mafi-free-up at pwede i-divert at magamit sa edukasyon, livelihood, at iba pang infrastructure para sa mahihirap. Ngayon anong mas “logical” at mainam na solusyon? Pakainin ng gobyernon ang lahat ng mahirap o pondohan at RH bill?  Puro kasi condom, contraceptive, kalibugan ang nasa isip ng mga kontra sa RH bill eh. Hope you see the “big picture”.

      • MelorisV

        Family planning program began in Marcos era (during the 1970s). There was even a committee the Population Commission (POPCOM) but the problem is the ones who are overseeing this program are no other than the Bishops & Priests (now we know now why it was not successful).

        Afterwards ensuing pressure from the Church to the different administration that followed. Hence Family Planning was not really implemented seriously in the Philippines. The result is what we see now. Rampant poverty, numerous street children, beggars, high mortality rate (maternal), etc.

        The RH bill is not really aimed at feeding and sheltering the poor. But To uphold and promote respect for life, informed choice, birth spacing and responsible parenthood in conformity with internationally recognized human rights standards.

        To guarantee universal access to medically-safe, legal and quality reproductive health care services and relevant information even as it prioritizes the needs of women and children. (From the bill itself).

      • taga_ilog

        When was the couple denied consulting medical doctors? You’re giving twisted meaning to an otherwise harmless sentence. Like all transactions with the goverment, there are some that requires documents like getting a driver’s lisence, does getting a drug test from a LTO approved clinic deter you from getting a drug test from another clinic?, how can getting a seminar from the local family planning office deter you from getting profession medical help? Answer me that. 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Answer you? And who the 4355 are you?

        …watch your word!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MVGHWWFVPFBW3VAPDWHW47QB2E Emmanuel

         Tama si taga_ilog.
        hahaha.. talo ka sa argument kaya ang nasabi mo na lang is “and who the 4355 are you?” ahihihihi. wala kang maisagot noh?

      • marionics

        Here are some clues to check if a person posting has trollism.
        1. The person in question actually replies back to replies made to their comments.2. The person in question has multiple accounts but posts similar information with similar grammatical errors.3. The person in question will blame all and any problems on everything that has nothing to do with the problem itself.4. The person in question is very sensitive with issues regarding politics, immigration, race, religion, war, and/or conspiracy theories.5. The person in question will reply to other comments with a counter arguement that usually doesn’t counter argue at all.6. The person in question calls everyone else stupid and tries to correct other commenter’s grammar with their own unique grammar techniques.7. The person in question will state that the article being commented on (in the case of Yahoo) is worthless and the preson who wrote it should be fired. However, the troll will never state was is wrong with the article because they do not know why either.8. The person in question types in all capital letters.

      • taga_ilog

        another alien heard from, 

      • Jane Tan

        Typical paranoid anti-RH. Next thing you know they will be picketing against lollipops or popsicles because the kids will equate it to BJs.

      • Twister12

        What you’re saying again?  Read carefully,  “SEC. 15. Certificate of Compliance. – No marriage license shall be issued by the Local Civil Registrar unless the applicants present a Certificate of Compliance issued for free by the local Family Planning Office. Did it not mentioned the word FREE??

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Anong kampon ka? I mean what Born Again Chapter are you?

      • Twister12

        What’s that? You’re playing religion here? If you can’t justify your argument better zip ur mouth than talk nonsense.

      • marionics

        Here are some clues to check if a person posting has trollism.
        1. The person in question actually replies back to replies made to their comments.2. The person in question has multiple accounts but posts similar information with similar grammatical errors.3. The person in question will blame all and any problems on everything that has nothing to do with the problem itself.4. The person in question is very sensitive with issues regarding politics, immigration, race, religion, war, and/or conspiracy theories.5. The person in question will reply to other comments with a counter arguement that usually doesn’t counter argue at all.6. The person in question calls everyone else stupid and tries to correct other commenter’s grammar with their own unique grammar techniques.7. The person in question will state that the article being commented on (in the case of Yahoo) is worthless and the preson who wrote it should be fired. However, the troll will never state was is wrong with the article because they do not know why either.8. The person in question types in all capital letters.

      • speaksoftlylove

        Shutup, numero uno kang trolleleng. Ikaw dapat uminom ng isang boteng pills dahil ang dami mo ng anak na robots!

      • marionics

        uuuuyy may fans ako dito o hahaha

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

       Is it a right, or a privilege?

      Like owning a gun is a privilege, it is subject to conditions. There are also conditions such as age, employment, mental capacity, etc which are first met before such priv.

    • Twister12

      And  Sec. 15 is that bad? I thought humans already evolved from the savages that we were by setting some set of laws that can benifit or at least make us more humans. All in this section said is a certificate that proves they have received adequate instruction & information on responsible parenthood etc etc why make a spin & make it more complicated. After all you need is attend a seminar & get a certificate so how hard can that be.

    • MelorisV

      Ito talaga si RFeemont yan din yung pinost mo nuon eh, dinagdagan molang. Repost konalang ulit yung sinagot ko sayo dati, inuulit molang naman din. Hindi ka talaga nakaka-intindi ano? Heto basahin mo ulet yung sagot ko sayo.

      “Ikaw naman para namang napakabigat na requirement yan, libre na nga yan walang bayad parang umattend kalang ng seminar, masama ba yon? Wag mo naman siraan ang RH bill ng ganyan. Kahit sa pag-aapply ng trabaho may requirement nga eh. FREE ito FREE. Kayong mga anti-RH bill masyado kayong mga OA, lol!Kumpara mo naman sa ibang Private School na Catholic sa atin na hindi nila iaadmit ang bata pag walang napakitang marriage certificate yung parent. Paano kung single ang mother or father? Hindi ba labag sa karapatan pangtao yun?” 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

        hayaan mo, MARAMI NAMAN ANG KATOLIKO,.. yang MARRIAGE LICENSE NA IYAN, DADALHIN DIN SA SIMBAHANG KATOLIKO kapag nagpakasal sila doon, TAPOS DOON E MERON DIN KAMING SEMINAR ON PRE-CANA AT INTERVIEW WITH THE PRIEST bago ikasal (GAYA NUNG IKASAL AKO)  NA HINDI PWDENG PAKIALAMAN NG GOBYERNO (REMEMBER, SEPARATION OF THE CHURCH AND THE STATE) o e di masasawata DIN YANG BATAS NA IYAN AT SA HOMILY NG PARI HAWAK NYA ANG MICROPHONE,,, at pagkatapos in due time e MAGKAKAANAK NA,,, TAPOS MAY SEMINAR BAGO BINYAGAN REGARDING THE VALUE OF LIFE… see?

  • virgoyap

    These people merely parroted the outdated stand of some ultra-conservative Bishops concerning responsible parenthood.

  • wehd1nga

    good bye RH Law, kulang pa tao nyo sa Supreme Court, appoint pa kayo ng marami SC Justices para manalo kayo, he he he…

    • marionics

      para bang yung nagsabi noon na the rh bill is dead? he he

  • Twister12

    Who again filed the case against RH Law? A lawyer couple (rich) with 2 children? My, my. Worth thinking if they have 12 kids & still filed that petition. The thing is experience 1st the hardship of these women raising kids beyond their capacity to take care of before making a noise because it will be perceived only  as showing off. One more thing in their petition, w/ this law “an inexorable population decline” will happen. But nowhere in the law that prohibits anybody to have a lot of kids & if it is not just sheer hypocrisy in their side why have only 2 children?

    • sanjuan683

      They should have 100 children because they are anti-RH bill. Use your common sense poor lawyers.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

         e ano naman kung kaya nilang BUHAYIN, gag o…akala NYO KASI mga ugo k kayo, e KAYO LANG ANG DAPAT NA MARINIG,,,

    • artz555

      But I’ve read that this lawyer couple are part of the teams of lawyers that have been hired by CBCP and the Church  to take care of the latter’s legal matters. In short, this couple lawyers are just doing what they have  been hired to do, i.e., to oppose the RH law by all means possible. 

  • $23257130

    grave ha. sino naman itong mag asawang pasaway na ito. pppppwwweeeehhh. kadiri. eeeewwwww.

    mabuhay ang rh bill. ang tunay na pag asa ng bayan!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

       HOY BUG OK NA VIL ma nian ANO GINAGAWA MO DITO? doon ka BATANGAS at ALISAN MO NG TINGA idol mo. baho ng hininga

  • Maitum

    You are free to have as many children as you want. How did it mocked the nation’s Filipino culture. If you don’t want it, then, just don’t do it. Leave those privileges for the poor filipino women to enjoy.

  • buttones

    Odd really, people don’t seem to understand that this Law is one of those Laws we can all raise a middle finger at, we can simply disregard it, ignore it, not even bother with it safe in the knowledge we adhere to the tenets of our faith that demands we go out into the world and breed-regardless of the outcome- is this not true? Are we not all practicing members of the Church of Rome and follow the instructions of the Pope in regards to this matter? Ooops….Time for the bishops to take control of their ‘flocks’- to nip at their heels and teach them the error of their ways…or maybe the flock is revolting [going against- not the other meaning] ? Is this possible?

    • Guest

      “Are we not all practicing members of the Church of Rome and follow the instructions of the Pope in regards to this matter?”

      we are not all members of the church of rome. we do not follow your pope.
      you live in a small world?

      • buttones

        Sorry, I did not say that very well, my veiled sarcasm regarding Rome—I was waxing satirical [albeit not that well evidently] but I was referring to those followers. ‘We’ was in a collective sense. That’s why I mentioned them—As regards the rest of us, well many of us make our own choices, informed choices, unhindered by the blathering of priests of any persuasion. I am one of those women, and considering I have traveled this world from one side to the other and been schooled at some ‘not bad’ universities in the UK and Canada – no – my world is not that small….Again sorry, I am not a good satirist- and I wonder if we Pilipino understand this sort of thing anyway….I am not a member of any Church by the way…

      • motorcyclemama

         Reading depends on one’s state of mind, hehehe. Mainit siguro ang debate.

        Regardless, I have observed bishops and defenders alike are not sensitive about religious minorities. Tingin nila, sila lang ang sa Dios.

    • sanjuan683

      Alin ba ang mataas ang laws ng church of Rome o ang laws ng bansang Pilipinas. Aba magsilayas sila dito sa Pinas hindi ito ang bansa nila. Magsilayas kayo mga halimaw.

      • buttones

        The Laws of the land, this sovereign state I call my home takes ALL precedence when it comes to Law, the Laws of the Vatican State, which is not even a democracy anyway, can take a very long walk off a very short pier….

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

         tang a

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Abdul-Rashid/100004367910013 Abdul Rashid

    I don’t see any reason why the SC will entertain this two clowns. I believe they are just showing off that they can hold it having only two siblings. The rationale of the bill is done in both houses, should the government spend more money for more clowns to make the show back i9n the circus? Mga KSP lang ang mga ito????

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      Cyber Law was passed but stop by SC! Think of that!

      • motorcyclemama

        It is because it was deliberated and debated in haste. Halos wala ngang kumontra eh. Bakit?

        Kasi po di pa po IT literate ang iba nating mga congressman.

        Imagine nagsulat ka at ipinost mo sa internet ang saloobin mo, tapos may nagreact na taga Mindanao, eh taga Luzon ka. Eh di problema mo ngayon ang pamasahe sa eroplano etc.

        Tandaan mo, hindi lahat ng tao natutuwa sa isang bagay. Maaaring hindi yun ang gusto mong sabihin, pero ang intindi ng naghabla sa yo ay iba.

        Lagot.

        Ang RH bill, kay tagal na po sa kongreso.

      • sanjuan683

        hehehehehe hindi naman nanganganak ang Cyber Law. heheheheheh

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PZR7JI7G2WD2CTVMZ7LM667FD4 Ugly Bunny

       Yeah KSP nga sila.

    • buttones

      Even clowns have a right….just the way it is………

      • sanjuan683

        Mga panggulong hehehehehehe ganyan talaga ang mga abugago kahit alam nila talo sa asunto igigiit nila katwiran ni baka makalusot. hehehehehehe

  • boypalabobo

    This RH Law will be one more useless law that will not be enforced, just like the Clean Air Act of 1999, just like the Basic Firearms Law that couldn’t prevent a 4yo and 7yo kid getting killed during the New Year festivities.  You cannot control or enforce the libido of the people.

    • motorcyclemama

       That remains to be seen.

      • boypalabobo

        Historical statistics are in my favor.  
        So when the die-hard divorce law proponents come forth believing it will solve the core problems of the Philippines (just like what they believe in RH)  – I will laugh just as hard, because right now, even the annulment option is too expensive for the poor. It’s there for the rich.

    • Twister12

      The law is not controlling or enforcing the libido of the people. It is not even preventing anybody to breed like rabbits. Ignorance is bliss indeed. 

      • boypalabobo

        LOL.  Then what good is it?  Then we will still hit 200M population, since those who have active libidos, do not even go to school.  In any case, I am neither pro-RH or anti-RH.   I just laugh at the die-hards of both camps.

      • Twister12

        What good is it? You have not read the law then. It may not help everybody but it will help somebdy & that is all that count. Better than nothing eh?

      • boypalabobo

        Didn’t bother – I didn’t care for it.  My position is pass it or don’t pass it, doesn’t matter to me – let Caesar do Caesar’s work.
        But you do have a point.

    • buttones

      Well it was passed, another target in the Millennium goal, a credit gained. Will it make a difference? I don’t think so, it is not one of those mandatory Laws like FOI – we can take it or leave it as we please.
      The Clean Air Act eh? Was it not last year they closed the airports in MM dues to smog and firework emissions?

      • boypalabobo

        We have tons of laws people never heard of…but they are not enforced at all.
        That’s why the color coding “law” was created – the cops were just too dumb to know what they had to enforce – so they had to create a simple enough law for them to enforce.

      • buttones

        I read the other day that we had a Law on the Books of Statue that actually said gambling was illegal on Rizal Day. And NOBODY EVEN KNEW ABOUT IT! OMG! things are getting worse… On PH cops in general, ok they are not of the finest minds but some of them try, they will never get to be big shots in wonderful uniforms and all that sort of thing, but some are ok- in my little island- they always wave and say Hi, and tell me they are on the case of my stolen chicken and will report back ASAP…mumbling something about DNA tests or something….

      • Observer_din

        basta anjan na yang batas na iyan iyon ang importante, wala naman pilitan to kung sino me gusto di syang sumunod, kayong mga ayaw pwede kayo tumanggi, iyon lang yun.

  • Albert Einstien

    nature knows best…populating earth is nature’s way …we are part of the eco-system….we are part of the evolving cycle of creation & extinction…why do we have to go against what is NATURAL….

    • Twister12

      Because it doesn’t always work..

    • Observer_din

      pare mga hayop lang ang nagpaparami ng di nag-iisip. kaya nga tayo binigyan ng isip ng diyos para alamin natin ang makabubuti sa atin.. “hindi puro go with the flow” lang.

    • buttones

      And eliminating species that don’t adapt is also natures way as well, it is simply a Darwinian idea, and is well proven- if I put 100 little fish into my aquarium that can only support 20, what will happen? 80 will die, sad fact but there you go, it is the same for this orb we live on as well, It is limited, to what degree is up for debate, and countless measure. Quite frankly, I would argue that this species we belong to, with it’s gods and I-pods and all the rest of it is not doing that well, ’we’ you and I have barely been here for 200, 000 years , the cockroaches that appear in my dirty kitchen [20 million years] the pythons in my mangroves [about the same] seem to be doing better.

      “I think I could turn and live with the animals, they are so placid and self contained;
      I stand and look at them long and long.
      They do not sweat and whine about their condition;
      They do not lie awake in the dark and weep for their sins;
      They do not make me sick discussing their duty to God;
      Not one is dissatisfied-not one is demented with the mania of owning things;
      Not one kneels to another, nor his kind that lived thousands of years ago;
      Not one is responsible or industrious over the whole earth.”

      That is clearly a quote- read it and understand….

      • ARIKUTIK

        If one dumps 100 tiny fishes into an aquarium that supports only 20, the other unlucky 80 will die. Yes, of course but that is not the way of evolution. It does not happen in one second of dumping spree. Evolution is gradual change that eats up time to evolve just like the way tiny lizards was once giant Dragons million years ago. In the same way, humans will become the size of ants after million years to accomodate them all. This theory was proven as true, over 10 years span of experiment. The subject creatures did not stop jumping on each other to create replacement but they become smaller due to sharing of food and space. Mother nature has its ways but humans with greed thinks they will grow bigger with longer life span. These human greed entice the powerful rich to elimenate weak poor Filipinos.

      • Jane Tan

        So… you want the other 80 to suffer first?

      • ARIKUTIK

        Hey I’m not the one who wish 80 fingerlings to suffer, it was Buttones sadistic idea, weeeeeee >>>>>>>>>

      • buttones

         Well the point was, the 80 don’t really matter anyway, Well the point was, the 80 don’t really matter anyway,

      • buttones

         Well the point was, the 80 don’t really matter anyway, Well the point was, the 80 don’t really matter anyway,

      • Jane Tan

        Nice testimony. The masses don’t matter as long as the rich survive. Only in the Philippines.

      • buttones

        The thread was a bit deeper than that, a conclusion. My analogy of aquariums and stuff was just put out there to illustrate a point that there are limits as to how many people an earth can sustain at a reasonable standard of life. This was all brought on by a ’lovely’ lawyer and her mate, appealing to the SC that the recent RH Law is a naughty Law, and should never have been passed, for reasons better explained by them because I can’t decipher them- added to all this was my Darwinian concept, and at the back of my mind anyway, was the introduction of some sort of industrialized breeding program, offered by the Church of Rome [which they take no part in] so all us gels can be exported and marry foreign guys, and the men can all go off and get jobs abroad in a desert somewhere, or on a ship, so they can send back money to the Government, thereby relieving said government of actually doing anything at all..

        On your comment, “ The masses don’t matter as long as the rich survive.” Well, as human beings, sort of ‘blessed’ with emotions of empathy, sympathy and all the other ones Pandora let out of her box, it should not be the case, but, demonstrably it is so, another paradox to deal with…along with the fact that in the time it took me to write this, 50 kids have died from starvation….is this important? Well had it been so, given the enormous resources of the world, and a concern- they would not have died – the conclusion is, they never mattered anyway….

      • Twister12

        You said “In the same way, humans will become the size of ants after million years to accomodate them all”. I can see your point that the change is gradual after million of years of evolution.That’s a lot of 0’s in there but that may never happen too. Why wait a million years when we can make a difference now? Food for thought. The Philippine population is way way much bigger than any countries in Europe except Russia. Imagine that. No wonder we fought for every morsel of food available out there.

      • ARIKUTIK

        I really don’t care about cooked up data to support an argument for the simple reason that I can cooked up better also. The best test is natures way that can not be cooked up but visible to all even to an eye with Abnoy brain. It is agreed that evolution will turn humans into smaller version but with the same urge of exotic pro creation. Now then, since Filipino specie is growing bigger in size up to this moment then the platue of population growth is not yet reach. There are still lot of room to make it bigger for ladies satisfaction. As regards` to cooked up data. Here’s my better cooked up data. If PH is over populated, how then that this same government is giving away to foriegn miners thousand hectares of fertile food producing land ? This government claims one then do the other all for greed of the rich powerful. .

      • Twister12

        Cooked up data? Which one? The population I mentioned or your theory of evolution. If there is 1 cooked up data here then it is yours. You’re talking about million years of a theory  which nobody can tell if it will ever happen but you want to shun a direct evidence that is there in front of your eyes. Under population is not about when there is still a piece of land where your feet can stand but it’s all about living a nice & comfortable life too. You’re talking about those lands then try living in those areas & experience toiling the land as your means of living( isang kahig isang tuka) like most of the people there then get back to us. But of course you wont do that because you’ll never get yourself dirty & exchange the kind of life you have in the city. So your argument is so lame as if your speaking for the masses but the truth is you’re all just talk but no walk at all.

      • ARIKUTIK

        The RH law is wisdom of brains framed by the city culture. So you agree that there is vast tract of fertile food producing land where no one resides because a city offers living a nice & comfortable life. Here’s a story to savour for enlightment. A not so wealthy young beautiful student of private Catholic school was sent to farming village to live for a week  among the poor farmer family under the program of “Emersion with the poor”. After the “emersion”, the students were required to submit an article what it is to be a poor farmer family. So, it was living in tiny nipa hut, sleep early for there is no electricity which deprive them of full night tv viewing but enables them wake up early to tend the chirping chickens on the backyard and till the land while the sun is not shinning in flaming hot rays. They eat 3 times a day with meals mostly from fresh vegetables growing by itself around nurtured by the land. They can not go to far away air conditioned malls. They just pass the time roaming around wide open field of plants and flowers with fresh breeze to breath in delight. The official report is “The farmer family is poor deprive of amenities a city can offer”. The UNofficial report of the city girl as told to her freinds IS > What the Pak those farmers are complaining about poverty. They eat free fresh fruits and vegetables 3 times a day. No electricity, telephone and water bills to pay and they got wide open fields to chase birds ad the bees in exotic play with nature for Free. Seems like their life style is more enjoyable than my crowded city life. To sum it up > It is the city that is over populated. There are vast track of uninhabited fertile land to produce food for all. It only takes roads to conquer those land. But instead of building roads the government had given it to foriegn miners for the benefit of the powerful rulers only. The mined fertile land will not produce food for all anymore but richness for the rulers and curse for the next generation who will lost a once fertile land. PH is not over populated. The country side is Under develope that’s why citizens flocks to the city. The Abnoy is pervert favoring foreign miners and poisoning the citizens through RH pills.

      • Bayang_magiliw

        Wow where did you get these info? You said the keyword: “evolution is a gradual change”. And because its a slow process, the environment will not be able to support the species due to exponential growth so in most cases it leads to extinction.

      • ARIKUTIK

        Did you grow in a matter of seconds. The twinkling love struck eyes of your parents took years of starring at each other before one is concieve and it took decades for one to realise that paradise can be found on ladies heels,.You see that’s how gradual it walks.

      • GKLer

        Evolution is a lie.  It is a pseudo science like astrology and alchemy.  Darwin failed in science 101:  observation.  He compared his own children to dogs, and likely his wife, mother, mother-in-law to an ape he met once.  There is no proof for evolution.

        In a nutshell this is evolution:

        Single atom iron based lifeforms evolved into my Toyota (with its 25,000 parts) after zillions of years all on their own, and somehow it even started when I turned the key.

        As an equation:

        Evolution = Nothing + Lots of Time + Accident = Everything.

        It’s bogus.  Give scientists the raw materials, Carbon, Oxygen, Hydrogen, Energy, and they still CANNOT create life.

        Human DNA is too complex – 25,000 genes, 2 billion chemical base pairs, 13 years of supercomputers to map it. 

        Life on earth was created. 

        If altruism came from the animals, I dare you to have your kids raised by animals.  No proof of intent behind the action = no proof at all.  

      • ARIKUTIK

        Dreams of yesteryears appeared on lonely nights in bed with out roses. Sea creatures invaded the land to become garden walking (instead of swimming) land dwellers. Proof of the matter is > there is sea horse and land hoping with exotic lady on top horse, both looks alike. Nature will not create human extinction because it can mould creatures to fit on its shoes. The powerful greedy rulers can create Unnatural extinction through RH pills poisoning the weak poor Filipinos. RH law is greed of the rich and powerful.

      • taga_ilog

        naniwala na sana ako sa iyo, kaso read up on evolution first start with wikipedia, maybe then you’ll be enlightened. a little knowledge can be dangerous.

      • ARIKUTIK

        One said, “A little knowledge can be dangerous”, thanks for the concern but I heard that phrase a thousand times before. It is the common defense of doctorate degree holders everytime their empty brain is exposed by a monkey. Anyways, is their truth in politics ? Columnist and articles writters are expertly famous in twisting the truth in the name of commission from politicians. Thruth in media IS > whatever one writter was able to make the readers believe, the same is true with wikipedia. The absolute truth can be found in nature as in mountains where monkeys hoop around tree trunks nearby a watery pool.

    • artz555

      You are talking about a period early in man’s history when there were a few humans occupying earth, and the earth could sustain these few humans with its abundant resources.

      But we are now in the 21st century when there are limited resources on earth that could adequately sustain big populations of people. PH probably had these period of balanced sustainability up to the 1960’s to the ’70s. But from the ’90’s to the present, majority of Filipinos, through numerous  surveys up the present, finally wanted an effective RH bill passed in Congress, knowing that the limited resources of the government ( and their families ) would not be able to sustain comfortably a great number of people.

       Hence, here we are now with an RH law, which may not be perfect, and maybe refined later and in the future, but it is the right thing to do for a brighter future of the country and it’s people, and that is what the majority of Filipinos want. 

      • Jane Tan

        …his arguments are growing even more primitive… maybe its because his recent ones don’t have any weight in them.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

         population EXPLOTION… A MYTH initiated by FIRST WORLD COUNTRIES to take advantage of our NATURAL RESOURCES,, AT NANIWALA NAMAN TAYO…

         

      • Bayang_magiliw

        Bishop relax lang po at baka ma high blood.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

         dati POPULASYON ANG PROBLEMA SA EUROPE, SINGAPORE, JAPAN, …ETC..

        . NGAYON,,,NAGMAMAKAAWA,, AT MAY ALOK PANG SUPORTANG PINANSYAL,,, PAANO YAN, CONTRACEPTIVE MENTALITY NA NGA,,, PAANO PIPILITIN,,,,?

        POPULASYON NGAYON ANG SOLUSYON… KAILANGAN NILA NG MARAMING MIGRATION? HA HA HA

      • Jane Tan

        ah, so ayaw mo umunlad ang bansa natin kagaya ng europe, singapore, japan, etc?

        i guarantee you 5-10 years from now, we will still be way behind those countries.

      • ARIKUTIK

        Let me get this straight > It is Not the government that sustains the citizens. On the contrary, it is the citizens that sustains the government. On what right this government have to elimenate the poor taxpaying citizens. Let me remind you that VAT system taxes even beggars. A government controlled by the rich powerful are the ones who wants to eliminate weak citizens but a government of the people IS > for the people. There is no way that it will wish to eliminate other people. RH law is greed of the powerful rich dynasties that controls the government. Prime example is Abnoy the haciendero.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

    “Lawyers James Imbong and wife Lovely-Ann, who filed the suit on behalf of their two children and the Magnificat Child Development Center Inc., asked the high tribunal to stop the implementation of Republic Act No. 10354, saying it was unconstitutional.
    The Imbongs claimed the law also “mocks the nation’s Filipino culture—noble and lofty in its values and holdings on life, motherhood and family.”
    You both knew that the purpose of this RH Bill as far as i know is also to educate younger generation and for the good of our country.Tutal nabanggit din naman ninyo about “motherhood”then let me get straight to the point!…..Aside from your 2 children,let me ask if you can ADOPT an additional eight(8) with different ages to be supported by BOTH of you for ONE YEAR!…All in all,10,including their education,food and clothing!…DEAL???

    • buttones

      It is doubtful , your challenge will never be taken up….[note to self- change name to Fantastically Beautiful , never mind the ’Lovely’ thingy……

    • ARIKUTIK

      Yes the couple can adopt additional 8 playful children if they get paid for doing it. The crocodiles in Batasan hills got paid for doing nothing.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

    Maybe we can ask this group MCDCI to be a regular sponsor for families who cannot afford to support education of their children?…Magandang mungkahi yan! This will be a great project for them di ba?

    • Observer_din

      siguradong di nila gagawain yan, ang alam lang ng mga yan manghingi ng donasyon para sa mga sarili nila..

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

         kayo MGA UG OK, SAAN NYO DINADALA ANG SUHOL NG PULITIKO SA  INYO?

      • justjarred

        bading ka talaga! lahat ng post may name calling e

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

         pork barrel lover ka pre?

      • Observer_din

        ikaw sacristan lover???mahilig ka sa name calling?? UGOK KA!!!!!

      • MelorisV

        Bagong gawang account. Halos lahat ng post niya walang kwenta ang nilalaman, walang substance. Typical anti-RH bill supporter. Troll nag troll ang dating. Lol!

      • Observer_din

        ikaw ang ugok, isip ninyo puro sarili lang ninyo.. kayo mga OBISPO saan ninyo dinadala ang mga hinihingi ninyo sa PCSO at PAGCOR? pati yung mga galing sa mga jueteng lords?

    • MelorisV

      Agree ako diyan. Tutal sila ang masyadong vocal eh, pangunahan nila. Tignan kolang kung hindi nila marealize na mali sila. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

         at maghintay TAYO KUNG MATUTULAD TAYO SA SINGAPORE, CHINA, JAPAN, EUROPE saka mo ijudge kung mali ang pag tutol ng simbahan,..

      • MelorisV

        Hindi na kailangan maghintay, ngayon palang kitang-kita ng karamihan na maling-mali talaga ang pagtutol ng simbahan. Kung totoo silang concern sa mga dukha bakit hindi nila buksan ang mga private school at hospital na pinapatakbo ng mga pari at madre sa mahihirap ng libre. Tutal para sa kanila hindi naman problema ang overpopulation at sila rin ang tutol sa RH bill. Sila din dapat ang gumastos at managot sa mga mahihirap na gusto nilang paramihin. Tutal ang essence ng being a true Catholic. Charity and piety. Simulan nila. 

  • bongdacaymat

    i could not understand what are those moronic anti-RH law people is babbling about when this law will not force them to use condoms and contraceptives when they are having sex. Anti-RH people should first understand the law before complaining so they will not appear to be idiots and laughing stock in the eyes of the world…

    • yonoh

       hahahahhaa anong understand first eh my family planning na tayo……..noon pa ang nakakatakot dito eh ilang billion na naman ang nanakawin ng mga nakaupo sa gobyerno…………..at maghihirap at maggugutom……………na naman ang magugutom……

      • MelorisV

        Family Planning during Marcos time was not implemented seriously. Dahil sa kagagawan parin ng mga Bishop at Priest nuon. Ngayon sa pagsasabatas ng RH bill lalo lang itong pinagtibay, pondohan, at isakatupran ng maayos. Nuon pa man  sinabotahe na ng mga Bishop at Pari ang POPCOM ganun din ang ginagawa nila ngayon. Nagkakalat sila ng misinformation, nananakot, paninira, at kung anu ano pang kabulustugan na hindi mo akalain magagagawa ng isang “Man of God” 

        Kaya’t nga’t isa pang kailangan isulong natin ay yung FOI. FOI + RH bill = better future for the Filipino people. Google ninyo ito: “A tale of two countries: Family planning in the Philippines and Thailand”. Sana mamulat na sa katotohanan ang mga anti-RH bill. Pag binasa ninyo yan at hindi pa kayo nagising sa katotohanan, malalala na talaga ang pagka brainwash sa inyo.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

         WALANG KADALA-DALA; gusto pang matulad SA SINGAPORE, JAPAN, CHINA, EUROPE,,, TAGUMPAY BA ANG RH BILL doon MGA OGAG

      • justjarred

        oo may universal health bill dun sa knila. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

        HA HA ha  SUCCESS,?,, mag aral ka nga,, o ANO NGAYON, di ba NAGMAMAKAAWA SI LEE KWAN YU na mag anak ng marami dahil paubos na ang lahi nila,,, NANANGANGAKO PA NG FINANCIAL SUPPORT SA MGA MAG ASAWA, MAG ANAK LANG,,,

        o ngayong NAIPAKO NA ANG CONTRACEPTIVE MENTALITY, AYAW NG MAG ANAK, DAHIL VERY INCONVENIENT NA SA KANILA ANG 2 ANAK…

        SA CHINA,, NAGMAMAKAAWA DIN…CHILDREN PLEASE,,,,

        SA AMERICA , EUROPE.. migration ANG SULUSYON KASI lahat SILA kulang NA SA WORK FORCE dahil wala ng pamalit sa POPULATION NILA…. 

        DATI PROBLEMA ANG POPULATION,,, NGAYON POPULATION ANG SOLUSYON?ha ha ha

      • Jane Tan

        Ano ngayon kung gusto niya manganak sila? Atleast alam niya na kaya ng ekonomiya nila. Eh sa atin? Manganak tapos itatapon lang sa basurahan o sa kalsada? Hahaha. You heard it here – its okay to give birth and throw the baby away just so we won’t be like Singapore. Only in the Philippines. 

      • MelorisV

        Sige simpleng sagot lang. Pag kasing yaman na tayo ng Japan, Singapore, S. Korea magparami at magsipag-anak tayo. Pero ngayong halos higit pa sa kalahati ng populasyon natin ay mahirap at meron pang below the poverty line. Aba’y mag-isip-isip tayo kung paparamihin natin ang mga mahihirap. Maawa ka naman sa kanila lalo na sa mga bata. Sa workforce naman na sinasabi mo sa America, Europe, etc. Ang kailangan nila e yung mga gagawa ng “dirty jobs” nila (housemaids, cleaners, washer, etc.) kasi nga maunlad na sila at karamihan ay professional na at hindi sa nauubos ang populasyon nila. Malaking kasinungalingan yan. Mas gugustuhin ko na yung mag-makaawa ka na paramihin yung population ng isang bansa na sagana kesa sa bansang lugmok sa hirap. Gets mo? 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

         HOY… KAYA MO BANG BALIGTARIN ANG MENTALIDAD NG CONTRACEPTIVE? THEY ARE NOW HAVING PROBLEM convincing PEOPLE para mag ANAK,, aba E KOMPORTABLE NA E… HA HA HA SEE,, THAT MENTALITY…? KAPAG NAKABAON NASA HIMAYMAY NG UTAK AT UGALI,,, we can no longer regenerate.. NO WAY,, that how their mind operates 

      • Jane Tan

        Who are you to impose what we do with our mentality or how it will turn out? The person who advocates that its okay to throw away kids as long as its born, just so our birth rate is still higher? You’re not even fit to be a parent.

      • MelorisV

        May ka-match kapala ayun si Edgardo Mendoza bagay na bagay kayo. Let’s get it on! Lol!

      • bongdacaymat

        you fool…it even came from you that the RH bill was a success in those countries, so you should have also seen that the economy of the Philippines will be as great as theirs if you will give RH law a chance

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

         TANG A..BASAHIN MO NGA POST KO.. at PAGDATING NG ARAW, MIGRATION ANG SULUSYON, MEANING,, DAGDAG POPULASYON ANG SAGOT SA PROBLEMA

      • Observer_din

        tanga, hindi pa natin problema ang pagdating ng araw, meron tayong problema sa kasalukuyan na dapat intindihin.TANGA!!!!

      • MelorisV

        Ikaw ang walang kadala-dala at ang daldal mo wala naman kakwenta kwenta ang sinasabi mo. Sa Thailand naging epektibo dahil walang mga kontrabidang mga Bishop at Priests duon. Google mo: A tale of two countries: Family planning in the Philippines and Thailand.

        Self explanatory na yan. Pag hindi mopa naintindihan kung gaano kahalaga ang family planning nakow po alam na! Mahina talaga kukote ng mga hindi sumasang-ayon sa RH bill. Nandiyan nakasaad kung bakit pag nabawasan ang mahihirap uunlad ang isang bansa. Chain reaction or domino effect kumbaga. Kabit kabit na yan. 

         

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

         EPEKTIBO SA THAILAND? KAYA PALA nag increase ng TODO TODO ang AIDS kahit na USO ANG CONDOM compare noong hindi pa inimplement ito sa kanila ha ha

        mag ARAL KA, BOB O..

        DADATING ANG PANAHON,, GAYA NI LEE KWEN YU …MAG MAMAKAAWA SA MGA MAG ASAWA NA MAG ANAK PA NG MARAMI KASI Negative na ang birth rate nila, GAYA NG JAPAN ha ha ha..

        DAGDAG POPULASYON DIN ANG SAGOT PAGDATING NG ARAW… KAPAG mas MARAMI NA ANG MATATANDA SA BATA,,,

        saka KA NGAYON MAKIKIUSAP NA MAG ANAK … KASI PURO ASO AT PUSA ANG KASAMA SA BAHAY.. GAYA SA US AT CANADA AT EUROPE ha ha ha

        MIGRATION ANG SOLUSYON NGAYON NG MGA BANSANG KAPOS SA POPULASYON…

        ANG ULO HINDI LANG BUHOK ANG TUMUTUBO,, DAPAT UTAK DIN

      • Observer_din

        TAGUMPAY ANG RH BILL DON OGAG, MAUUNLAD ANG MGA BANSANG SINABI MO..  DITO SA PILIPINAS WALANG RH BILL MAUNLAD BA TAYO?? MAHILIG KA MANALAIT NG KAPWA MO.. EH IKAW ITONG TANGA!!!!

      • bongdacaymat

        There’s only one reason why the Catholic Church is strongly opposing RH, it is because they don’t want to reduce the contributions that they are getting from their faithfuls. This what their blind followers could not see.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

      KALA NYO KASI MGA bug ok AT TANG A NA MGA PRO RH KAYO LANG MARUNONG MAG INTERPRET NG BATAS… HINDI KOMO MALINIS ANG PANGALAN NI NOYNOY E MATINO RIN ANG MGA BATAS NYANG PWEDENG IPILIT.. DEMOKRATIKONG BANSA ITO, LAHAT PWDENG MAGSALITA, ,, BAKIT kailangang KAYO LANG ANG MARINIG,, gamitin mo nga gatuldok mong isip

      • bongdacaymat

        sad to say but your reaction is a clear testimony to the ignorance of Anti-RH supporters just like you…RH bill have gone thru so many debates before signing into a law, to the point that some Anti-RH bill supporters plagiarized quotes from other people just to prove their crooked ideas..it even took 13 years before it was signed due to strong opposition of the Catholic church. Good thing that we now have a president that has balls to stand for what is right and what is best for our country despite of pressure from the priests

        i’m not pro noynoy but i support RH because it is for the best of our country especially those who are poor

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/IJIUASZHAVUI2ADFY75TX5276A ALFREDO ALEX

         may mga pari na dapat matuto ng artificial family planning kasi marami nang kaso na ang pari may nabuntisan. Marami ding mga hipokritong pari, akala mo napakalinis at sumusunod sa doktrina ng simbahan pero pag pumunta sa malayong lugar at pumasok sa nightclub, ang pakilala “engineer” sila, ito ang mga pari na dapat matuto ng RH para makaiwas makabuntis.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

         ISAMA MO NA RIN ANG MGA MINISTRO NYONG MAY KABIT AT PASTOR NG MGA BORN AGAIN AT MGA PROTESTANTE NA ANAK NG ANAK AT CHARGE NG CHARGE SA  CONGREGATION NILA NG PANG ENROL AT LUHO NG  KANILANG MGA ANAK..

      • Observer_din

        CGE ISAMA MO NA ANG MGA PARING AT OBISPONG MAHILIG MANG-ABUSO NG MGA ALTAR BOYS, DAMING NAKADEMANDA HINDI LANG SA PILIPINAS, KUNDI SA BUONG MUNDO. PATI MGA OBISPONG NABABAYARAN NG SUV.. TANGA KA.. TITINGIN KA LANG NG DUMI NG IBA DI MO PA NAKITA SARILI MO!!! BOBO!!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

        i love this country too, at para bang ikaw lang ang nakaaalam ng batas na ito… SANA MAKITA MO RIN ANG NANGYARI SA SINGAPORE, JAPAN, US EUROPE and what LEE KWAN YU IS SAYING, years AFTER HE HAD ORDERED ” STOP AT two” now HE IS SAYING.. MORE CHILDREN ha  ha  ha, JAPAN AFTER 20 YEARS,,, birth rate IS BELOW ZERO,.. and it is a disadvantage to their economy.

        EXAMEN YOUR OWN CLAN or your neighbor’s clan , and you will discover the YOUNGER GENERATION ARE HAVING LESS CHILDREN,,, get A DATA FROM NSO and you will learn too that OUR COUNTRY’S BIRTH RATE IS GETTING LOW.. STUDY DEMOGRAPHY PLEASE,,, AND THE POSITIVE IMPACT OF POPULATION…

        KALA KO BA,,, KUNG WALANG CORRUPT WALANG MAHIRAP,,,NGAYON,,, MARAMING TAO KAYA MAHIRAP? GANOON BA?

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Women should have the right to decide for their body and own future, you like it or not will not change anything.
        On that point, compare to the rest of the world,
        its still Middle Age in the Philippines.
        To avoid development is impossible,
        our Planet is not flat anymore.

      • Jane Tan

        Because their economy has grown far beyond their labor force. Meanwhile, in the Philippines, we keep increasing our labor force (though, unskilled and uneducated beggars don’t really count) far beyond what our economy can handle.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

         O baka MALI ANG MANAGEMENT NG RESOURCES? GAANO KALAKI ANG NAPUNTA CORRUPTION,, NGAYON KASALANAN NG MAHIHIRAP DAHIL NAPAGKAITAN SILA NG SAPAT NA SERBISYO, KAYA LILIPULIN NA LANG SILA..

        DADATING ANG PANAHON, GAYA NI LEE KWAN YU..AFTER 20 YEARS,  WE WILL BEG FOR MORE POPULATION TO FILL THE GAP….

      • Ronilo Yap

        Bakt lahat nalang i compare sa japan? Exag naman yang pinag sasabi mong below zero ang birthrate. di sana wala nang bata sa japan. Kalokohan.. 

      • Jane Tan

        Magreklamo ka sa corruption sa ibang topic. Wag mo ito gamitin rason sa reproductive health. Ibang topic yan.

      • Observer_din

        BOBO, WALANG NAKALAGAY NA LILIPULIN ANG MAHIHIRAP BAGKUS NGA MATUTULUNGAN SILANG MAGPLANO NG HINDI SILA LALONG MAHIRAPAN. WAG MO IPILIT ANG KATANGAHAN MO DITO.  NAPAGHAHALATA ANG KABOBOHAN MO!!!!!

      • Observer_din

        BOBO!!! ANONG BELOW ZERO ANG POPULASYON SA JAPAN.. IBIG SABIHIN WALANG NABUBUNTIS DOON? EH MARAMI AKONG KAKILALA SA JAPAN NA MGA BAGONG PANGANAK!!! WAG MO NA KASI IPIPILIT NA MATALINO KA.. HALATANG HALATA NA KABOBOHAN MO!!!!

  • Observer_din

    papansin lang yang mga yan. maski bulok na katwiran ipipilit nila wag lang matalo.. nakakahiya na kayo!!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AO6VKORVP6RF3NJ2OW74M3YTXA Jojo

    savi noong nagfile ng petition against RH BILL wla raw kinalaman yung CBCP sa kanilang ginawa eh samantalang legal counsel yung nanay nia ng CBCP haaay naku naniniwala ba kau…mga BISHOP pagkumpinsalin nio nga po e2 JAMES…tsk..tsk…

  • kismaytami

    Ok pa sana kung hindi lang napaikot ang mag-asawa ng mga padre damaso sa cbcp.

    Hindi ba pwedeng ang mga padre damaso na lang ang mag-file sa SC? Para showdown sila ng mga hurado at abugado sa SC, pare-pareho silang mga naka-gown!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

       ikaw, hindi ka ba napaikot at natakot ng MINISTRO NYOng pulpol? hirap kasi sa inyo wala kayong sariling isip.

      • kismaytami

        Tanga! Wala akong relihiyon.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

    HEDONISM, RELATIVISM… mag isip nga kayo
     

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZJ5UW7QKIHTBNZCAIO4BBJIO5Y Camille Joyce Lisay

    Halata naman kasing sinusulsulan ng mga Damasong malalaki ang tiyan ang mag-asawang yan. Kitams, may koneksyon sa CBCP. Puwede ba, wag na nga tayong magpabulag sa Simbahan. Ilang taon nang natengga ang krusada natin para mapasa ang RH Law, tapos magpapalupig na naman tayo? Ulul.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

      HALATANG anti catholic ka… AYUSIN NYO MUNA ANG TURO ng MINISTRO NYO, MGA SINGAW

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO!! BRAIN WASH PILIPINOS TO BE IDIOT AND STUPID!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

       MGa BUGO K NA TAGASUNOD NG KULTO NI MANALONG RAPIST mga ISTUPIDONG  BULAANG PROPETA ..

      kala mo siguro EDGARDO MANALO MENDOZA e KATOLIKO LANG ANG MAUBOS AT KAYO E DADAMI KAPAG NAIPATUPAD ANG RH BILL… mga UG OK…! SA INYO RIN IPAPATUPAD YAN….

      AT HINDI KAYO DADAMI DAHIL SA RH BILL ,, MAS KOKONTI KAYO DAHIL DATI NA KAYONG KONTE,,,, MGA KADEMONYOHAN ANG ARAL  NYO…

      DIYOS SI KRISTO mga IGNORANTE AT SINUNGALING KAYO 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

         itong EDGARDO MENDOZA NA ITO,, E miymebro ng KULTO NI MANALO,.. tanong mo pre kung SINO SI ROSITA TRILLANES… AT ano RELASYON NIYA KAY FELIX MANALO…

        ANG SUGO NYONG ANGHEL,,,NABULOK,,, ANG DIYOS NAMING SI KRISTO, MULING NABUHAY

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IJIUASZHAVUI2ADFY75TX5276A ALFREDO ALEX

    Kung kaya ninyong mag-asawa ang papag-aralin ang lahat ng pangatlong anak at mga susunod pa ng mga mahihirap na pamilya, sige, itigil ang implementasyon ng RH bill. Pero kung puro lang naman kayo bunganga, itikom ninyo ang inyong mga bibig.

    Panahon na para baguhin ng simbahan ang kanilang pananaw. Iba na ang panahon ngayon.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

      IBA NA TALAGA ang panahon ngayon, MARAMI NA ANG HEDONIST AT PRACTICING RELATIVISM… 

      • MelorisV

        Si Piola Pascuall ata kayang pag-aralin yung anak ng mahihirap 3 pataas. Kahit schooling lang. Papakainin mo rin ba? Ibibili mo ng mga damit? etc?
        Hindi hedonistic at relativism tawag dun “Practicality” at “Common Sense” approach yun, which you don’t have. 

        You are not sync with reality wake up! 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

    kung TOTOONG SUCCESSFUL ANG RH BILL sa mgA bansang meron nito.. US, CANADA, EUROPE, SINGAPORE, AND IN SOME ASIAN COUNTRIES..

    BAKIT KAILANGAN NILA NG MIGRATION? kung BALANSE  AT SAPAT ANG POPULASYON NILA…BAKIT KAILANGAN NG IBANG LAHI ANG WORKFORCE NILA?

    DAMI NA KASING MATATANDA,, KULANG KASI SA YOUNGER PRODUCTIVE POPULATION..

    POPULASYON DIN PALA ANG SAGOT SA PROBLEMA NG ECONOMY NILA ha ha ha 

    • Twister12

      They need people to take care of their olds.

      • Jane Tan

        Because they actually have alot of people that reach old age. In the Philippines, even the young are at risk.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

         AND SO WHAT YOU GONNA DO WITH THE SHORTAGE LATER? AT RISK? E ANO BA GINAWA MO PARA HINDI MAGING RISKY ANG BUHAY NG KABATAAN NGAYON?

        ANG TANONG GINAGAWA BA NG MAYOR AT GOBYERNO ANG TUNGKULIN NILA PARA MAWALA ANG MGA NAKAHUBAD SA LANSANGAN?

        GIVE ME THE FIGURE HOW MUCH MONEY WENT TO THE POCKETS  OF IRRESPONSIBLE POLITICIAN…?

        GIVE ME THE EXACT FIGURE WENT TO CORRUPTION?

        custom.
        dswd
        PNP
        AFP
        PORK BARREL
        DPWH
        DEP ED
        ETC..

        … TAPOS ANG SULUSYON.. BAWASAN ANG POPULASYON PARA MAGKASYA NG PONDO? HEYYYY

      • Jane Tan

        Shortage later? That’s kind of why the aim is to reduce demand until supply can catch up. Ano gusto mo, bigyan lang ng bigyan ng pagkain ang lumalaking populasyon ng Pilipinas na hinde naman kasama sa labor force o pabayaan sila mamatay?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        Sa Tate, sa Connecticut, halos dalawang linggo pa lang ang nakalilipas, 20 bata ang pinagbababaril…hindi na sila pinatatanda.  Dito sa ‘tin, sa Cavite yata, may gumaya, pero 7 o 8 ang yata, hindi pa puro bata.

        Dito sa atin, 29 pa lang, mukhang 60 na, kaya mas marami ang matanda sa atin.  Sa ibang lugar, mas marami ang bata, sa isip lang. 

      • buttones

        Why? Why should old foreign people transfer the responsibility of their lives to the young of PH? This a cop out- these ‘old’ people should have planned their lives better not to become a burden or responsibility to anyone. For my country to be some ‘bank’ of care givers , and to be bred for such purpose and exported on demand is disgusting….

    • Turono

      Lol in the first place they never had an overpopulation problem.  Nakita mo ba sa Canada na ang mga bata palaboy sa kalye? Nakita mo ba dun mga bata namamalimos hubot hubad sa lansangan? Sige nga, sa mga countries na binanggit mo, sabihin mo nga sa akin kung alin sa mga iyan ang may mga taong nakatira sa ilalim ng tulay, sa gilid ng mga estero, sa mga barong barong, sa squatters area, sa slums?

    • MelorisV

      Lol! Puro kalokohan at hindi sync sa reality itong si Piola Pascuall. Hibang kaba boy? Kung may dislike button malamang sangkatutak na thumbs down aabutin mo! Ikaw ba yan Bishop Gilbert Garcera?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      Psra may gumawa sa mga trabahong ayaw nila.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

    kabado na ang ibang bansa,,, IMAGINE, WE CAN FILL THEIR SHORTAGE

    • Twister12

      Fill with slaves?

      • Jane Tan

        The country that labels their offspring at birth as OFWs. Only in the Philippines.

      • where_I_stand

        Only when the Pinoys want to be slaves forever.
        Look at the African-Americans now?
        They have Barrack Obama as the president of the most powerful nation in the world.

      • MelorisV

        Likewise look at the Filipino-Americans now they also have Barrack Obama. Parang ayaw ninyo umunlad ang Pilipinas ah? Migration ba ang tanging solusyon ninyo? The plight of the Filipinos are far different from the African-Americans you try to compare edi sana nagpasakop nalang pala tayo sa mga Amerikano nuon may green card na sana tayo ngayon (sarcasm again).  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

    GALING AKO sa CANADA, DAMING LUPAIN, WALANG TAO, PAMIPAMILYANG PINOY…PAMPUNO LANG SA KAKULANGAN NILA SA POPULASYON —-

    • Twister12

      compare mo nman ang laki ng lupa sa Canada at Pinas lol

    • Turono

      Kaya naman ang mga tao doon namumuhay ng sagana. Walang nagugutom. Kahit ordinaryong tao ka lang nakakakain ka ng steak at ng iba pang pagkain na kung nasa Pilipinas ka e hanggang pangarap ka na lang. Walang taong nakatira sa barong barong, lahat binibigyan ng pagkakataong magkaroon ng disenteng pamamahay. Kung wala kang bahay maraming tutulong sa yo hanggang makatayo ka sa sarili mong paa at magkaroon ng disenteng tirahan.  Hindi ba sana ganyan din sa Pilipinas? Kaya lang hindi maaaring mangyari yan sa ngayon dahil napakabilis ng paglago ng ating populasyon na hindi pa nga natin matugunan ang mga problemang hinaharap NGAYON.  So bakit hindi natin gawan ng solusyon? Gawan ng paraan para mabigyan ng solusyon ang problema ng walang pigil at napakabilis na paglago ng populasyon?

    • MelorisV

      Sarcasm mode. Ganun naman pala eh edi ipadala natin lahat ng mga mahihirap natin dun, from the street children, beggars, lahat ng mga nasa squatters area, mga tambay etc. Problem solved! Sagot mona at ng simbahan ang “show me the money” sa immigration. Ano kayang skills nila pag tinanong ng immigration officer? Propagation o pagpapaprami pwede kaya? 

      Kung hindi ka ba naman inutil eh. Skilled workers ang kailangan nila dun at “show me the money” sa tingin mo yung paglalaanan namin ng RH bill na mga dukha ano ang tsansa nilang makagpag migrate sa Canada? Boy mag-isip isip ka sa mga sinasabi mo napaghahalatang wala ka talagang alam sa nangyayari sa tunay na buhay. Kayong mga anti-RH bill talaga mga delusional at liars. Ikaw ba yan Bishop Gilbert Garcera? 

      • where_I_stand

        “Ano kayang skills nila pag tinanong ng immigration officer? Propagation o pagpapaprami pwede kaya?”

        How insensitive! Kahit mahihirap sila, mga tao pa rin sila katulad mo. Kahit hindi sila nabigyan ng edukasyon kagaya ng narating mo, marunong sila makikipagkapwa-tao at habag silang matulungin sa higit na nangangailangan. At higit sa lahat, kahit mababa lang ang kanilang pinag-aralan, hindi sila kagaya mo ng kung tumitingin sa mga mahirap ay walang kwentang nilalang ng Diyos. Madali sila matuto sa mga practical na bagay. Kung mabigyan lang sila ng pagkakataon, gaya ng pagbibigay ng makataong sahud sa kanilang blue collar jobs, mas marami sa kanila ang makakaangat sa buhay. Hindi lang sila magaling sa pagpaparami.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

         HA HA HA so LILIPULIN NA LANG AT WALANG KARAPATANG MABUHAY ANG MGA BATANG MAHIHIRAP GANOON?

        populasyon din ANG SOLUSYON PAGDATING NG PANAHON,,, GAYA NG PINAGSISISIHAN NG SINGAPORE AT IBA PANG BANSA..

        LEE KWAN YU begs couple for more KIDS now,, MAY INSENTIBO PA.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        HINDI MO SAGUTIN NANG MAAYOS ANG TANONG…KUNG SAAN SAAN MO DINADALA…NGAYON, MAY SINGAPORE PA…PERO, NARIRITO KA PA RIN YATA SA PILIPINAS…PAANONG MAGSISISI SI LEE KWAN YU, EH, ang dami ng Pinoy sa Singapore…kahit hindi na siya ang naka-puwesto, sabihin lang niya sa mga Pinoy, kailangan namin ang tulong niyo para magkaanak ang mga chicks namin…tingnan mo kundi kumapal agad ang tao sa bansang iyon.  Aba, eh, magaganda at malilinis ang kutis ng mga Singaporean, lalo na ‘yung mga naliligo.

      • MelorisV

        Don’t get me wrong. You don’t seem to understand my rebuttal to Piola Pascuall (Kaya nga sarcasm eh). Jumping the gun ka agad eh. Alam kong mga tao rin sila kaya nga’t pabor ako sa RH bill para kahit papaano guminhawa ang buhay nila. Hindi pataasan ng ihi ito. IKAW ang nagsabi na wala silang kwenta (noted yan). Pagkakataon ba kamo. Ang RH bill ang isa sa solusyon para makapag paangat sa buhay nila. Once na maplano nila ang pamilya let’s say imbes na 8-10 anak eh 1-2 nalang may tsansa pa silang umangat dahil yung gagastusin nila para dun sana sa 8-10 ay mapupunta sa 1-2 na anak, ngayon may tsansa ng makapag-aral, makakain ng sapat, maibili ng damit, atbp. yung mga bata. 
        Pero in “REALITY” anong sabi nitong gunggong na si Piola Pascuall? Parang pinamumukha niya na ganun kadali mag migrate sa Canada? At nakapunta na daw siya, lol! Edi sana alam niya ang patakaran dun kung hindi ba naman tunay na ogag! Para hibang katulad ng mga Bishop. Yung lang sakin pawang katotohanan lang ang sinasabi ko para matauhan yung mga anti-RH bill na katulad niya akala nila ganun lang kadali ang mga bagay na gusto nila. Kesyo yung budget ng gobyerno pampakain nalang daw sa mahihirap, ang laki-laki ng Canada ang daming trabaho, etc. Ikaw sa tingin mo ano bang magandang plano sa milyong-milyon Pilipinong mag-asawa na mahirap (isang kayod at isang tuka) na halos wala permanenteng trabaho na hindi nakatapos kahit high school man lang at may 8-10 anak? Do you have a better idea, we are talking about millions here not just one family. 

      • mynnyx

        di naman kailangan ng skills baket yong mga nakatapos naman sa atin na pumupunta sa ibang bansa eh pagdating doon kahit anong trabaho eh papasukin nila………..para mabuhay lang ang maganda lang sa ibang bansa eh maayos ang gobyerno nila alang nagkakakaw……….completo sila sa facilities…………sa atin matagal ng sakit yan pagnanakaw nong una pa lang na binigay ng kano ang kalayaan natin sino ang mga mayayaman sa atin hanggang ngayon mag nakapwesto……….may naghirap ba sa kanila……ang amerika ba at mga ibang mayayaman na bansa eh nakita mo na bang nagbigay ng tulong sa atin ng malaki hindi di ba paano di naman sila nagtitiwala sa mga nakaupo……kasi mapupunta lang sa wala ang subic ba nong kano ang may hawak napakaganda ng binigay sa atin pero ngayon ganon pa rin ba…….hahahhahahahaha……..

      • TJ Sese

         Kaya nga sya naglagay ng “Sarcasm Mode” sa umpisa… I was expecting a punchline from this comment, but it never came. I’m not even going to try to use simple words for your benefit. Read, otherwise don’t waste the space

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        Where do all those valid points of yours bring us…or bring those who are less educated?   Nariyan pa rin ang problema.  Kawawa pa rin sila.  Hindi naman sinasabing walang kuwenta silang nilalang ng Diyos, ALAM MO ‘YAN, NA HINDI IYAN ANG TINUTUKOY.  

        Bakit hindi mo sagutin kung ano ang isasagot nila, kahit sa place of interview?  kapag inaapi na sa lugar ng trabaho?  kung hindi alam ang gagawin sa harap ng panganib at ng pangangailangan?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

         ANO AKALA MO,,, obispo lang ang pwedeng magsalita… ? HOY OGAG, HINDI LAHAT NG KATOLIKO, GAYA MONG UTO-UTO AT WLANG KUKOTE

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      sabihin mo kay satanas carnival tagle DAMASO!! sa new zealand mas marami ang baka sa tao kaya sawa sa steak!! sa pilipinas mas marami batang hubo sa baka kaya maraming isnatcher! at desperado!! moyor lito atienza aborzionist prolife bishops silent kill joy extremist terrorist!!

    • mynnyx

      kasi dati may family planning sila dati………………..kaunti lang ang naipapanganak kaya ganyan ang canada at katulad ng europe………at japan at korea…………daming kakulangan ng bansa nila…………..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      Bakit bumalik ka pa dito?  Don’t you think pampa-sikip ka lang.

  • http://twitter.com/peron222 peron

    Section 2 of the RH law when it stated that “the State shall also
    promote openness to life; provided that parents bring forth to the world
    only those children whom they can raise in a truly humane way.”

    this is offensive and provocative.
    most parents would agree that even without “bring forth to the world”, they would still raise children in “a truly humane way”.

    • Twister12

      how bout those children in slums living/sleeping in the streets, no food to eat no education?are they raise in a truly humane way?

      • where_I_stand

        I am pro-RH.

        Prior to your questions, what caused these poor parents live in a sub-human condition?

        Are poor couples incapable of raising their children in a truly humane way?

        I agree that without these basic needs of food, housing, and education, the children are deprived of their basic rights. However, you cannot simply fault the parents for their poverty. More than lack of sipag at tiyaga, the majority of the Filipino couples are poor because of unequal distribution of wealth and corruption in government. The oppressive system does not permit them to emancipate themselves from poverty.

        The RH law provide a mechanism where the poor couples can have easy access to safe and free reproductive health care and services. This is essential for government to take care of the basic needs of its constituents. Yes, it is a welfare state but its long term goal is to empower these poor to be agents of social transformation. Without people empowerment, our democracy will remain a play ground for traditional politicians to enrich themselves and their family and political party.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

         D0 NOT WASTE MONEY.. STRENGHTEN PUNISHMENT TO CORRUPT OFFICIALS,,, CREATE JOBS..

        POPULASYON DIN ANG SULUSYON PAG NAGKATAON.

        WHAT IS STRONG ECONOMY WITHOUT POPULATION?

      • MelorisV

        Wala kang talagang alam ano? Create jobs how? C’mon enlighten us? 

        Population is the answer pag nagkataon? lol! Patawa ka talaga. Alam mo kapag karamihan na ng Pinoy e mga pawang mga professional na hindi na natin kailangan magpadala ng mga maids, cleaners, washers, sa ibang bansa. Once na gumanda na ang ekonomiya natin at nabawasan na ng lubos ang mga maralita. Chain reaction na yan. Investors will be coming, business will open up, jobs will be plentiful. etc. Instead na tayo lalabas sa ibang bansa para maghanap ng trabaho ang mga dayuhan na ang dadayo dito sa atin para manilbihan.

        Pinoy din ako na nangarap na sana imbes na tayo ang mag-aborad at manilbihan e mga dayuhan naman ang dadayo sa atin at pagsilbihan tayo.

        Strong economy without population? Kulit mo talaga ano! Depende sa majority ng work force o population e kung majority eh mga street children, beggars, high school or even elementary level lang natapos magiging strong economy? Wake up! Economics boy!

        Igoogle mo, basahin, at intindihin mong mabuti ng matigil kana. 

        Google: A tale of two countries: Family planning in the Philippines and Thailand

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/F3MQCMLOZ2KRHSIYGCJ7FSO2DQ Juan

      pinag sasabi mo, kung ang economiya ng bansa katulad ng amerika or kung ang GDP ng bansa is katulad ng China wala sanang RH kaso since sobrang hirap ng bansa natin umaasa na lang sa mga OFW na padala, at sobrang daming mahihirap mahihirapan umusad ang bansa kaya dapt sa RH bill eh masimulan para makita ang resulta ungas ka

  • wehd1nga

    bye RH Bill see you after 10 years pag controlado na ni Pnoy ang Supreme Court. Sayang pera na sana naging bato pa ~ Raiza Hornyveros.

    • mynnyx

      tama ka si pinoy condom di nagiisip……….dapat yong perang gagastusin sa pambili ng condom at pills eh ibili na lang ng makakain yong mga kawawang mga pilipino………..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

    after all DADATING ANG ARAW, POPULASYON DIN ANG SAGOT SA MAGIGING PROBLEMA..

    AT PARANG SI LEE KWAN YU.. nagMAMAKAAWA at nagbibigay ng insentibo para ,MAG ANAK PA NG MAG ANAK ANG MGA MAG ASAWA PARA dumami populasyon nila..

    even china begs to couples to make more children ha ha ha..

    BE MORE OBJECTIVE…SEE whats going on in JAPAN…MENTALIDAD NA ANG CONTRACEPTIVE….AT  BELOW ZERO ANG BIRTH RATE….A DISADVANTAGE TO THEIR ECONOMY..aYAW NA NG MGA KABATAANG MAGAANAK;;; SEX LANG ANG ALAM.. AT MAG ENJOY///

    KAYA NAGHAHAGILAP NG MGA ANAK NG HAPON SA PINAY PARA PANG DAGDAG..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      TANGA!! TANGA!! TANGA!! PARA KANG SI BISHOPS TANGA!! PINARUSAHAN SI GALILEO AT TENURTURE NOONG 80!s SINABI LANG NIYA PINALILIBUTAN NG PLANETA ANG ARAW TANGA!! KA!! BOBO!!

  • Ronilo Yap

    Bakit maraming comment sa baba puro nalang dahil sa corruptions sa government e coconnect? bakit? ang sahod niyo ba sa gobyerno kinaltasan? oo tax, pero dati mo nang obligasyon mo yon. Kung philhealth may makukuha ka namang discount. Ang punto ko, magsipag ka lang maging responsabling magulang ka na, di ka na nangangailangan ng RH Bill na yan. Ang bill na yan ay pang tapal lang sa kakulangan ng mag asawa sa orientation paano maging responsabling magulang. Walang kinalaman dito ang corruption. Sa bidding ng contraceptive? Ano paki mo? di pa naman nag increase ang deduction sa tax. Kung meron man, tulong mo nlang yon sa mga below average income earners. Nakakatulong ka nang hindi mo namalayan. Have faith in government now. I’m sure the administration is doing what’s best for his people (my idea compared to last administration (spending millions for a dinner). 

  • Ronilo Yap

    Huwag muna nating isipin ang lalago sa ekonomiya. Ang unahin natin yong may malaking chance na magawa. Unahin muna nating isipin paano ba natin mapagaan ang buhay ng pilipino? 
    Alin dito: 
    1. RH Bill – Decreases unintentional pregnancy
                     Decreases birthrate for the present couple
                     Decreases birth related fatalities
                    Increases the chance of a child to be cloth and feed properly thus malnutrition is lessen.
                    A healthy citizen means a good status in life, a good status in life means the country is living not in a 3rd world country.
                     You know what’s next. 

    2. Anticorruption – Dati naman may corruption na, nasa systema na yan. (Possible ba masolusyonan?)
                    Kahit di ka corrupt, pag government official ka, lalapitin ka talaga ng mga bribes (Pag ang palay lumalapit sa manok ano gagawin ng manok? (Possible ba ma solusyonan?)
                   
    3. May magagawa ba tayo kung aangal lang nang aangal di naman tayo puede makisawsaw. Paano kung susuporta nalang tayo at aantayin na mamunga ang mga programa ng gobyerno at ipamukha sa kanya ang resulta ng programa mas nakakaguilty yon sa kanya. Kung positive naman, Di panalo tayo.

    Just my 2 cents for a healthy conversation.        

    • MelorisV

      Agreed! First thing first. For the health and welfare of the poor families of the Filipinos. Better healthcare for them for FREE. The RH bill is the REAL Pro-life and Pro-women.

      • mynnyx

        masosolusyunan lang kung mawawala ang mga magnanakaw sa gobyerno…………….pangalawa sinong bansa ba ang pinakamayaman………..sa buong mundo………..amerika sino ang mga mayayaman at napagpapatakbo ng negosyo ng amerika mga hudyo sino ang mga hudyo mga anak ng dyos………kaya maniniwala ba kayo na ang rh bill eh kasagutan sa kahirapan ng bansa natin……………di siguro………..

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OXAZFHCT6QUOIEVEKIIYT3LQIY Jose

        RH BILL SHOULD HELP ONEWAY OR THE OTHER..BUT DEFINITELY IS PART OF THE SOLUTION.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OXAZFHCT6QUOIEVEKIIYT3LQIY Jose

      WELL SAID…BUT ONE OF THE BISHOP SAID, “MORE POPULATION BETTER FOR THE COUNTRIES ECONOMY”..WILL YOU PLEASE COLLECT MONEY AND HAVE THAT BISHOP PSYCHOLOGICALLY EVALUATED..GOOD LUCK 

  • noypisiTED

    Who ever thinks that a mere couple can overturn the Act of Congress by running to the Supreme Court of Corona (Before) better examine his or her head. The SC cannot intrude and declare a law passed by Congress and signed by the Prez as unconstitutional or “illegal” for the reasons that this couple should know through their legal advisers. If this couple doesn’t like RH bill to apply to them so be it – go and multiply ’till you run out of gametangium.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Roland-Aparece/1261044115 Roland Aparece

      NoyPisited, please study constitutional law again. you don’t know what you are talking about. the SC has the power to declare that a certain statute or parts thereof is unconstitutional. The three main branches of the Govt are Legislative, which will enact laws, Executive which will enforce or execute the law and the Judiciary which will interpret the law whether or not it is constitutional. It is the letter of the law which will be interpreted vis-a-vis the constitution irregardless of their legal advisers. In a conflict between a statute and the constitution, the constitution will always prevail.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO!! BRAIN WASH PILIPINOS TO BE IDIOT AND STUPID!!

  • $31552910

    Testimony of an AFP General for the RH Law

    General: “Since, the Government will be the direct purchaser of these contraceptives and other methods to be used, then we can expect that they will buy only original medicines. I have never read any news nor any country who buys fake or pirated medicines to be given to its citizens.”
    Soldier: “Sir, how about the … I mean the defective ammunition and combat boots?”
    General: “Soldier, we’ll provide adequate instructions and issue a Certificate of Compliance to every soldier who has successfully completed the training.”
    Palace: “General, you are hereby appointed Chief of the Family Planning Office.”

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OXAZFHCT6QUOIEVEKIIYT3LQIY Jose

      THAT IS WHY WE NEED THAT RH BILL..HOPEFULLY IT WILL WORK AND CAN CONTROL THE POPULATION AND THE COUNTRY CAN BUY A REAL AMMUNITION….BY THE WAY , YOU ASK FORMER PRES. GLORIA WHERE SHE BOUGHT THE AMMUNITION. SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL YOU..HAPPY NEW YEAR

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SATANAS BISHOPS KATOLIBAN BRAIN WASH PILIPINOS TO BE IDIOT AND STUPID!! SA NEW ZEALAND MAS MARAMI BAKA SA TAO KAYA SAWA SA STEAK!! SA PILIPINAS MAS MARAMI BATANG HUBO SA BAKA KAYA MARAMING ISNATCHER!! AT DESPERADO!!

  • johnlagrimas

    …go!  You’re doing the right thing.

  • Chris P Pnono

    mga ibang pinoy ayaw talagang,umunlad ang bansang pinas.kontra parin sa R:H: mag isip isip naman kayo.

  • LAMBFORGOVERNOR

    Mind your own business and I will mind mine.  Spiritualism is between God and me, not you.  Religion sticks its nose everywhere but where it belongs. Leave the church and find God.  Think for yourself.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OXAZFHCT6QUOIEVEKIIYT3LQIY Jose

    CBCP IS THE FINANCING THAT PETITION. THEY DON’T MIND THE EXPENSES FOR THAT..BUT, LOOK AT OUR PARISH PRIEST ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.. THEY DON’T HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE AND NO RETIREMENT INSURANCE. KNOW A PRIEST WHO GOT A STROKE, WE HAVE TO COLLECT MONEY FOR HIS MEDICATION..THE BISHOP DON’T EVEN CARE FOR HIM OR VISIT HIM..WHAT A SHAME.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    PCSO pa car sa obispo!!



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