Church wins tarp war; more dioceses to post ‘patay’ list

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Round 1 of the tarp war goes to the Church.

The Supreme Court on Tuesday stopped the Commission on Elections (Comelec) from enforcing an order for the diocese of Bacolod to take down from the San Sebastian Cathedral an oversized tarpaulin for and against certain senatorial candidates on the basis of their stand on the reproductive health measure that became law.

The high court’s temporary restraining order (TRO) came as the Church’s Episcopal Commission on Family and Life announced that other archdioceses and dioceses like Tarlac (President Aquino’s home province), Lipa, Borongan, Sorsogon and Kidapawan would put up similar posters.

The head of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines (CBCP) welcomed the Supreme Court order.

“This is the work of the Supreme Court. Because we are law-abiding citizens in the land, we should be law-abiding people. If that is what the Supreme Court said, sorry na lang sa Comelec,” said Cebu Archbishop Jose Palma, CBCP president.

The high tribunal granted the petition of the diocese of Bacolod for a TRO in its en banc session. Supreme Court spokesperson Theodore Te said the high court asked the poll body to comment on the petition of the diocese within 10 days.

In addition, the Supreme Court scheduled oral arguments for March 19 in Manila, according to Te.

Comelec Chairman Sixto Brillantes Jr. said he welcomed the move since it would once and for all settle the issue whether the election body can regulate oversized election propaganda.

But Brillantes was also anxious about the TRO’s effect on the commission’s implementation of campaign rules.

“What I feel is that, it might encourage others to come out with all these illegal propaganda,” he told reporters following an en banc meeting of the Comelec.

Copy cats

Brillantes said he would not be surprised if all churches across the country would take a leaf from the diocese of Bacolod by putting up similar illegally sized posters and the Comelec would be rendered powerless.

Last week, the diocese and Bacolod Bishop Vicente Navarra filed an urgent petition for certiorari and prohibition, asking the high court to declare the Comelec order unconstitutional and void.

They also sought a TRO and/or a writ of preliminary injunction to stop the Comelec and Bacolod election officer Mavil V. Majarucon-Sia from enforcing the order.

Majarucon-Sia issued on Feb. 22 a notice asking the diocese to remove the tarpaulin as this was oversized and violated Comelec regulations on election propaganda materials.

But the diocese did not comply, prompting the Comelec legal department to issue an order on Feb. 27 reiterating its call for the diocese to remove the tarpaulin or else it would be charged with an election offense.

Church-State separation

In its petition, the diocese said the Comelec order was unconstitutional as it infringed on the Church freedom of expression and violated the principle of separation of Church and State.

The diocese said it was just exercising its freedom of expression and conscience in putting up the tarpaulin which stated its position against the reproductive health (RH) law.

Bishop Navarra earlier said the “Team Patay/Team Buhay” tarpaulin would remain at the cathedral and would even be replicated in churches throughout the diocese.

The tarpaulin got much flak from the administration party as it tagged senatorial candidates for the RH law as Team Patay (Death) and those against the law as Team Buhay (Life).

Seven senatorial candidates on Team Patay are Juan Edgardo Angara, Francis Escudero, Loren Legarda, Alan Peter Cayetano, Risa Hontiveros, Teddy Casiño and Jack Enrile. Except for Casiño and Enrile, all the candidates are from the administration.

Also on the Team Patay list are party-list groups Gabriela, Bayan Muna, Akbayan and Anakpawis.

On the Team Buhay list are Joseph Victor Ejercito-Estrada, Antonio Trillanes IV, Gregorio Honasan, Mitos Magsaysay, Aquilino “Koko” Pimentel and Cynthia Villar.

‘Just the size’

Brillantes reiterated that the Comelec had no issue over the content of the tarpaulin. “It’s just the size of the tarpaulin,” he said.

“This has nothing to do with religion. It is more of an enforcement of an election law provision. This has no relationship on religion … I am even surprised that they are talking about separation of Church and State, freedom of expression and religion when our argument is merely the size,” he added.

But Brillantes described the TRO as a “good action” so that “we settle once and for all the issue, whether we are correct or that we cannot regulate oversized posters.”

Surprised

He, however, said he did not expect the Supreme Court to act on Navarra’s petition merely on the basis of the letters sent by the election officer in Bacolod and the commission’s law department.

“Procedurally, I am really surprised because I got a copy of [their] petition and they were questioning the notice of our election officer and the letter of Director (Esmeralda) Ladra,” Brillantes said.

“The Comelec [en banc] has not yet issued an order, there is no resolution or order on the matter,” he noted.

“Anyway, since this is the Supreme Court speaking, we just have to abide by it. But we have to see first what are the specific matters that we are being restrained [to do],” he added.

Oral arguments

During the oral arguments, the Comelec will raise whether the tarpaulin mounted on the facade of the cathedral was election propaganda material, he said.

“If it is, then it is oversized and it doesn’t have the necessary printing,” he said, noting that for the tarpaulin to be considered lawful, it must indicate that it was “printed for” the candidates.

The Comelec might raise during the oral arguments Section 261 of the Omnibus Election Code prohibiting, among other things, any religious organization from coercing or intimidating or influencing members or parishioners to vote for or against any candidate.

“We will probably raise it during the oral arguments… there are also other violations but [mainly] we are just talking about the sizes,” he said.

Fr. Melvin Castro, executive secretary of the Episcopal Commission on Family and Life, said the diocese of Tarlac decided to put up posters in all its 52 parishes and chapels to inform voters who among the senatorial candidates voted for or against the RH measure.

The posters will be installed before March 14, when administration candidates are expected to visit the province, according to Castro.

‘Raring to go to war’

“This is a decision of our lay faithful. The ordinary faithful are raring to go to war, thanks to the RH law. There is now a groundswell,” Castro said at a Church forum in Intramuros, Manila.

“The more they try to stop this, the more it will spread,” he added.

Castro said other archdioceses and dioceses like Lipa, Borongan, Sorsogon and Kidapawan were also planning to put up Team Patay posters.

“This is to show that the diocese of Bacolod is not alone in this fight and that the struggle against the RH law continues. The struggle will go on because the agenda behind the RH law is depopulation and population control,” Castro said.

“In the end, there might even be sample ballots and in Lipa, you can confirm this with the archbishop there,” he added.

Lipa Archbishop Ramon Arguelles was one of the most vocal opponents of the RH law when it was still being debated in Congress.

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  • Line Of Flight

     the Church has won nothing but a temporary status quo reprieve, until the Court has the time to hear arguments and rule on the merits. the headline is woefully misleading. and since this is journalism, why doesn’t the inquirer get an independent constitutional scholar to give a contrasting view of the situation other than the he said, she said of the bishop and COMELEC

    • ShibumiNinja

      you are correct

  • EdgarEdgar

    Church wins tarp and turf war.

    Brillantes a useless old twerp.

    • ShibumiNinja

      he is

  • w33k3nd3r

    There is no Catholic vote.

  • quirinomayer

    The RC could win the tarp war but it will lose in the elections. The Patay list will not have a significant effect on the choices of Catholics 70 percent of whom support the RH Bill. Padre Damaso has already been threatening and actually campaigning against pro-RH candidates even before the Bacolod diocese hang the Patay list  and pro-RH senatorial bets Legarda, Escudero and Allan Peter Cayetano continue to lead the pack up to this time.

    Let’s see who will be Patay come election day. I am sure the CBCP aka Padre Damaso will again be humiliated like that time in 2001 when the campaigned all out against Mr. Condom Juan Flavier and he landed in second place lang naman hahahaha.

    Except for the misguided and blind followers of Padre Damaso, Filipinos are no longer stupid Indios who would follow anything Padre Damaso says. 

  • joerizal

    Brillantes is wrong to go after the Church. The tarps and the rules for setting them up apply to the candidates, of which the Church has none of. The COMELEC is clearly trying to trample on freedom of expression by mixing it up with election/campaign rules.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    How ’bout the TEAM PEDOPAYL list?

  • http://www.scribd.com/narodnikkki karaangtawo

    “”If that is what the Supreme Court said, sorry na lang sa Comelec,” said Cebu Archbishop Jose Palma, CBCP president.””
    What a smug son of a gun. Haha.

  • brunogiordano

    “”This is a decision of our lay faithful. The ordinary faithful are raring to go to war, thanks to the RH law. There is now a groundswell,” Castro said at a Church forum in Intramuros, Manila.”

    Kung kinukunsinti ito ng mga OBISPO ito ay masamang pala tandaan. May ilan mga maka-DAMASO na maaaring MANAKIT ng ibang tao sa paniwala na ito ay kagustuhan ng kanilang diyos.

    Ang ipinakikita ng mga OBISPO at ng mga maka-DAMASO pag laban sa RH LAW ay sila ay mga BABAE-HATERS.

    “”The Vatican, conservative religious forces within the United States and Europe, Catholic and Muslim countries are joining forces to stop women from gaining sexual rights,” the minister said, predicting tough negotiations during the two week conference.”

  • antlagdamn

    It’s not about us versus them, or your God, or your church, It’s about the millions of people who don’t know how their body and sexuality works. I dont understand the Catholic church anyway.. something evil is goin on..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/DPWG4HOOPPKW7DDS364NRTGVKY Corinna

      I’m so exhausted with this issue.. It’s now clear that the Catholic church are evil. anyway, I strongly agree..

    • BoredRomeo

      I agree too..Not all Filipinos are Catholics.. It’s for our countrymen’s sake, people who have their own views, ideology and beliefs..

  • observer1356

    whatever… still, i would NOT VOTE for TEAM BUHAY, just because the Church supports them… there goes the farcical separation of Church & State… so lame and naive… so idiotic…

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Mabuhay ang Team Buhay!  Mapatay ang Team Patay!   Hahahaha . . .

  • alville60

    Patay itong mga team navarra, pajero at montero. Baka mawalan na silang mga kapanalig sa katolika,
    Di naman kasi makisawsaw sa pulitika, mga pari kayo

  • Hey_Dudes

    Our country will never be united.  It thrives on people hellbent racking up dead bodies and our courts being one of the reasons even dead bodies cannot rest in peace.  One body make a mistake another one cheers the mistake?

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Mabuhay ang Team Buhay!

  • Cabesang_Tales

    See what Pajero can do?

  • mangtom

    Brilliantes says that this SC decision might make other churches to put up their own posters like the one put up by the Bacolod diocese.

    I don’t think so, Mr. Brilliantes. I have trust that the other churches are not as stupid as the bishops in Bacolod. My guess is that they are more level headed than these Bacolod Damasos. I may be wrong-let’s see if there is monkey see-monkey do reaction.

    I agree with one poster that Navarra’s statement, “sorry na lang Comelec” is smug. Navarra is a man of god (wooden or ivory god), not God Almighty. If that statement came from a layman, that would not be taken as seriously as when it came from a DAMASO. Well, expecting something pious from these CBCP is like expecting a Muslim to eat port- that will never happen.

    Navarra, nabarra mo ang Comelec pero hindi mo “ma-varra” ang mamamayan. The RH law is here to stay, like it or not. That is pro-women’s rights, pro-Life, pro-poor, and pro-Filipino. You, CBC,P ain’t nothin’ but a hound dog, crying all the time”, sabi ni Elvis the Pelvis.

    Mark my word: your tarpaulin gimmicks are ineffective. To quote your attack dog, txt(woman)man, pitiful(of BS ang CBCP). 

  • mangtom

    Bacolod diocese won the tarp war but will lose the election battle. 

  • To_Be_Continued

    CBCP  ARCHBISHOP PALMA: “Because we are law-abiding citizens in the land, we should be law-abiding people. If that is what the Supreme Court said, sorry na lang sa Comelec.”

    Funny. See how these supposedly “educated” priests twist laws according to their taste.

    Palma and the CBCP claims to be “law abiding” but uses all their time, knowledge and energy on contesting the RH Bill that has been signed into law. RHB is now a law padre.

    So much bullcrap knowing that 80% of the cause of HIV is the non-use of condom with about 12,000 HIV carriers every year.

    Now, who is pro-patay !!! Bunch of moron priests…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FWPL7UMRTWHOCIT4NTTALAWNJI Niel

    Sino ba ang mga nasa team patay? Di ko iboboto yan. Good strategy by the church for name recall.

    • johnlagrimas

       Team Patay

      1.Angara, Juan Edgardo
      2. Casino, Teddy
      3. Cayetano, Alan Peter
      4. Enrile, Jackie
      5. Escudero, Francis
      6. Hontiveros, Risa
      7. Legarda, Loren

      Party Lists
      1. Gabriela
      2. Akbayan
      3. Bayan Muna
      4. Anak Pawis

      If you noticed, most of them are the balimbings, riders and users of people to advance their own interest and some of them are leftists [party lists representatives] or with communist ideology leanings – which evidently lurking now in the government using the taxes of hard working Filipinos to advance their selfish causes.

  • lucidlynx

    Well we all have to follow the decision of the Supreme Court. But don’t pin the blame on the COMELEC when campaign rules are abused.

  • lucidlynx

    Pretty soon, some beguiling politician will ask his friends to post huge banners of his/her campaign ads within the premises of his/her friends private properties. And the COMELEC can’t do anything about it.

    • johnlagrimas

      Out of context! 

      • GProf007

        Unless the politician / party will ask their “church-friends” (non-Catholic Church) to post posters (over sized) on the wall of their church? To “express” themselves or using whatever argument used by San Sebastian Cathedral when they posted their patay and buhay list.

        The SC in this case should have had the forethought… I agree with the COMELEC that this will render them powerless.

        While we’re in the issue of “expression” when did such “expression” especially pertaining to political figures (names / postings during election sesson) exempted anyone from the directions of the COMELEC pertaining to election materials (sizes, where to post, etc.)? For the sake of argument… can a citizen post the same poster that was posted by the San Sebastian Cathedral on their private property? How is this an exemption from what the COMELEC is enforcing? What made the San Sebastian Cathedral be given such exemption?

  • drugmule

    Only in the Philippines. The non-tax paying people wanted to dictate upon us.

    • johnlagrimas

      Ang kapal ng mukha mo! Magkano ba ang tax mo?  We Catholics pay our taxes – and I as one, paid a huge sum just to add the big bellies of corrupt politicians. 

      The church is composed of people – Lay and Ordained.  The lay faithful paid the taxes and we are numerous than many other sects in this country. 

      This tarp about Team Patay is our initiative as Lay.  You are an ignorant mule!

      • To_Be_Continued

        You dont understand a thing, do you?

        Drugmule was referring to church properties, collections, investment bonds that are not only exempted from taxes but also exempted from government audit scrutiny.

        Boy, do you know how much the Philippine church have? At least 10 billions in assets, properties and investments. One parish alone in Makati collects at least 30 million pesos a year from administering weddings, baptisms, confirmations, blessings of the dead bodies of the filthy rich.

        Now, do you understand what drugmule is talking about? Now, say sorry to drugmule before I spank your rear because, obviously, you are the ignorant one…

      • motorcyclemama

         johnlagHIMAS, hindi po ikaw ang tinutukoy na magbayad ng tax. Ang church nyo po. Kung hindi mo pa alam, ang Roman Catholic Church ay napakalaki ng stocks na hinahawakan.

      • shia19

        Dear John,

        We Catholics pay our taxes – and I as one, paid a huge sum just to add the big bellies of corrupt politicians. – NOW YOU KNOW where your money is spent. Shouldn’t your offerings,every single cent of it be spent on the poor not on bellies? Tapos makikisama ka pa sa pag judge at condemn eh kitang kita na nga track records ng sinasabi niyong Team Mabuhay. Yan pa susuportahan mo?

        John the Beloved take heed that no man deceive you. Catholics are good people. Yun nga lang mga ordained kung hindi nangrarape ng madre at sakristan gumagawa naman ng kabalastugan yung offering binubulsa. Tapos murderers pa yang mga yan, ipapapatay nila lahat naglalabas ng anomalya nila. Tapos pag napatay na nila at napako na nila sa krus pagkakakitaan nila. John wag ka pagamit John pa naman ang pangalan mo. Dun ka nalang sa original. 

      • catmanjohn

        This protest is not against good Catholics, but the organization called the Catholic Church.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        i will concede that

      • Crazy_horse101010

        when the new saint was flown to rome he had a window seat on the plane and he had 100 retainers fly with him. after his cornation a note shows up at my house where every church had to give 30000 pisos to pay for him, multiply that by every church in the visyans. the people here are very poor and the church wont help them but they have to give to met their quota.

      • drugmule

        When did the church started paying tax?

        So it is your initiative. Go ahead, it’s your choice. Live your life in the stone age. Now I know kung sino igrorante sa atin dalawa.

        TEAM PEDO AT ITS BEST.

  • lolo_Jose

    PAGBAYARIN NA SILA NG TAX!!!

    • shia19

      Sila ang Gawing Team Patay!

  • PaulynTayag

    wow such a misleading title.. such irresponsible journalism 

    • JenicaLee

      oo nga eh.. kaya nga TEMPORARY eh. so it doesnt mean its final yet

  • RachelleDomingo

    so comelec violated church and state? im sorry but you posted those first. you stuck your head into politics which i believe is a part of the “state” such BS 

    • AngelSantos

      they’ve just run out of excuses.. its sad they look so stupid :)

      • RamonTuliao

        i actually love what they’re saying! its so hilarious! grabe i didnt know people could be so… hahaha well you said it perfectly they really do look… wahahahha! :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W7TPARCYJFCSA3PBQAM3MVZO3E kurakut

    REMOVE ALL THE CRUCIFIXES IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. REPLACE IT WITH THE POSTER TEAM PATAY/BUHAY.  TAKE NOTE- WHY DID THE POPE RESIGNED, WHY? ASK YOUR BISHOPS. HIGH CLASS SINNERS NA AT MAY CONFESSION PA.

  • Crazy_horse101010

    on the internet there is a listing of hundreds of priests who raped children maybe they need a banner listing their names

    • scolexx

      if you need a sponsor, im in. 

      • Crazy_horse101010

        thanks keep you in mind

    • billy gunner

       i’ll welcome. but for the meantime, let’s focus on the issue at hand–not collaterals!

  • scolexx

    win agad? akala ko pag TRO, temporary? law abiding citizen pla sila, dba Law na ung RH? 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/LLZUWWYWTSB4APE7SV2R64AU3A Rody

    To the church: get over it RH law is now law of the land. If you are law abiding citizen as you proposed to be, then so be it.

  • Philcruz

    Go ahead, Mr. Bishops and Priests. The more you talk like this, the more you display your political vile and vindictiveness. Go ahead and spend your Sunday cash collections for those giant political tarpaulins endorsing your beloved Mitos, et al.

    You won round 1 on a palusot technicality. I still say this is not a legal issue. This is more a propriety issue. It is not proper for a church to name specific names you want us to vote or not to vote for. Your image has been further eroded as you foolhardily pursue your political vendetta. You lost your advocacy in Congress. Accept it.

  • Philcruz

    The ordinary faithful are raring to go to war daw? Goodness gracious, another Kiram.
    There is now a groundswell daw? Where? All I see is an anthill.
    Don’t these people read the national surveys? 70% favor the RH bill.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FWPL7UMRTWHOCIT4NTTALAWNJI Niel

    Sino ba ang nasa team buhay? Mukhang di ko rin iboboto. Sino kaya ang matitinong kandidato ngayon?

  • investor888

    Binibigay lang ng mga alagad ng Diyos ang tamang gabay para maitaguyod natin ang marangal na pamumuhay sa pagtatayo ng isang bayan na matatag ang Pamilya. Sino ang mga tutuong kandidato na Maka Diyos at magtataguyod ng matatag na PAMILYA.  MABUHAY ANG ATING MGA OBISPO NA TUNAY NA GABAY PARA SA IKABUBUTI NG ATING BAYAN AT PAMILYA!

    • shia19

      Yehey! Maraming squatters naghihirap dahil sa kanila! Ang saya diba? Magkano offering ng Baclaran at Quiapo? Kaninong Bulsa napupunta? Mabuhay Ang Mga Obispo ng Bayan na ito! Mabuhay Kayo! Obispo Patay! Naiangat niyo ba sa kahirapan tong bansang to?   

      • investor888

        Ganyan ang nangyayari sa Bayan natin kapag binubulsa ng ating mga politiko ang pera ng ating bayan imbes na gastusin nila para sa ikakaunlad at ikaakyat ng buhay ng ating mamayan. Dapat pagisipan nila kung paano mabigyan ng magandang pamumuhay ang ating lipunan bagkis na ihinto ang pagdami ng ating mamayan na tumutulong sa ating bayan kagaya ng OFW.  Yan ang kalamangan ng ating bayan at nagpapaunlad ng ating lipunan!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AR3F3RNQX4U3PKBI526NJI6BYM Jose

    Team Buhay, Let’s see: Mitos Magsaysay, JV Ejercito, Honassan… Patay tayo diyan!  Di kaya malaki sila magbigaysa pamisa?  Naalala ko, noong hinuhuli si GMA, 21 pari ang nag misa, noong ini impeach si Corona araw araw may misaang obispo sa SC…

    Hoy mga mahal kong obispo, please naman, igalang niyo ang simbahan (congregation) huwag na kayong obvious, huwag nang makisawsaw sa di niyo linya.  Marami nang lumilipat ng relihiyon dahil sa inyong pagmamahal sa kayamanan (suporta sa mga nagpapayaman sa pwesto) dahilan para mapabayaan yung mga mananampalataya. 

    Kung gusto niyong mag kampanya, ikampanya niyo sina Teddy Casino, Hagedorn, Kapatiran, etc., yung mga alternatibo sa mga trapong kurakot para naman kung totoong may Catholic vote (siguradong mayroon pag may malinaw na katwiran) eh magkaroon naman ng pagbabago sa political landscape.

    • frudo

      team kapatiran sa kanila yun diba bakt di nalang yun ang kumpanya nila,  kung tlagang may katolik vote, kaso mga trapo pa sinusuportahan nila.

  • andrew lim

    CBCP:  GIVE UP THE PPCRV or STOP PARTISAN POLITICS

    How can the Church remain impartial in its role in PPCRV if it has specific names it advocates to vote/not vote?  Isnt that a huge conflict of interest?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AR3F3RNQX4U3PKBI526NJI6BYM Jose

    “…GABAY PARA SA IKABUBUTI NG ATING BAYAN AT PAMILYA!” 
    Let’s see… Mitos Magsaysay, JV Ejercito, Honassan… MUKHANG HINDI AH! 

    Recall: Suporta kay Erap, GMA, Corona… HINDI NGA!  

    21 pari nagmisa para kay GMA noong hinuhuli, samantalang si Fr. Reyes lang ang nagmisa para sa mga magsasakang api… Hoy, magbago na kayo! Ikampanya niyo kung gusto niyong makisawsaw yung mga alternatibo para baka sakali manalo.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AR3F3RNQX4U3PKBI526NJI6BYM Jose

    You’re crazy Crazyhorse and I dread that day for the Church when lists of abuses of the clergy are hung side by side with their tarpaulin for Team Buhay…

    But if it will jolt them to see the light and set their foot firmly on the ground, let it be.

    • Crazy_horse101010

      thanks for i know im crazy, but actually crazy horse was a real person who i admire

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AR3F3RNQX4U3PKBI526NJI6BYM Jose

        Native American Indian?

      • marionics

        little bighorn…custer

      • Crazy_horse101010

        yes but the name fits me im big and a bit crazy. and i didnt like custer

      • marionics

        “Hurrah boys, we’ve got them! We’ll finish them up and then go home to our station.”—Famous words reportedly said by General Custer shortly before being killed.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        his last words were were did all them f–king indians come from.

      • marionics

        little bighorn…custer

      • Crazy_horse101010

        right. i lived near there at one time in my distant pass where custer died

  • marionics

    oks lang yan. this is free campaigning by the church in favor of the pro rh candidates. kung ano ang kontrahin ng mga praile e yun ang iboboto ng tao hahaha

  • justjarred

     Naniniwala akong mag iisip na ang mga botanteng pinoy kung sino ang iboboto nila at hindi padadala sa mga salita ng CBCP.

  • lintangbedol

    wala namang sinabi sa tarp na may vote for or not to vote to this candidate. di ba ang stand ng comelec sa mga candidates na may tarpaulins before sa election campaigns ay okay lang.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZMZLC72EBFRL7AT5ERBT4WQESE ChL

      Actually meron… May “check” sa team buhay and “X” sa team patay… Pero i think ayos lang to. Sana lang meron ding mag post team Molestia or team Pedophilia. Kabobohan talaga ng simbahan. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PUW7UXRWMOUWUDZQMQODGNKJ6Q Read

    LIKE BONIFACIO,BACOLOD PROVIDED THE
    SPARK.

    IT IS GOOD THE ARCHDIOCESE OF BACOLOD
    STARTED THE LABEL: TEAM PATAY (PRO RH) and TEAM BUHAY (ANTI-RH).

    WE MAY USE THE BRANDING “TEAM
    BUHAY” VS. “TEAM PATAY”.

     

    ARBP PALMA OF CEBU FOLLOWED.  THEN Lipa, Cubao and TARLAC. And now it is
    Manila. 

     

    FEBRUAY 22, 2013

    IT IS GOOD THE ARCHDIOCESE OF BACOLOD
    STARTED THE LABEL: TEAM PATAY (PRO RH) and TEAM BUHAY (ANTI-RH).

    WE MAY USE THE BRANDING “TEAM
    BUHAY” VS. “TEAM PATAY”.

     

     

    February 2, 2013

    CATHOLIC
    VOTE: @200K H4 85ET

    (85
    Ecclesiastical Territories to produce 200,000 votes each )

     

    STRATEGY:
    With less cost, multiply rapidly and go large scale… nationwide

    1.
    BACKGROUND: From CBCP statement & newspaper reports

     

    CBCP: “It
    is the position the Church …We support and encourage the participation of the
    laity in electing competent and morally upright candidates who are faithful to
    their correct and informed conscience.”

    CBCP will
    support initiatives to choose ‘worthy candidates’

     

    CBCP also
    is in interested of the Catholic Vote

     

    2.
    SCENARIO

     

    The
    Catholic Vote may start dividing the Senatoriables into ‘DEATHS CANDIDATES’ and
    ‘PRO-LIFE CANDIDATES’

     

    How to do
    this?

     

    Send
    survey forms/questionnaires re their stand on issues involving DEATHS concerns
    (Divorce, Euthanasia, Abortion(RHB), Total Reproductive Health, Same sex
    marriage and Sex Education), their willingness to AMEND the RH LAW and support
    the issues raised by CBCP 106th Plenary Assembly.

     

    PRO-LIFE
    CANDIDATES means ‘DO NOT SUPPORT ALL OF THE DEATHS issues, COMMIT TO AMEND THE
    RH LAW and support the issues raised by CBCP 106th Plenary Assembly.

     

    Once
    finished, come up with CATHOLIC’S PRO-LIFE CANDIDATES in which the Church
    machinery could rally behind.

     

    3. HOW TO
    USE THESE DATA?

     

    CBCP
    Website records about 85 ecclesiastical territories (arch/dioceses) nationwide
    (84 of 85 arch/bishops were present in the 106th CBCP Plenary Assembly).

    Granting
    that the 85 territories/dioceses could produce 200,000 each (or 17 million)
    votes for the Catholic Vote, then it would be a sure victory for the PRO-LIFE
    CANDIDATES.

     

    Or at the
    very least the DEATH CANDIDATES are deprived of the same number of votes (17
    million).

     

    And this
    can win an election in 2016. Consider the last presidential election result:

     

    Benigno
    Aquino III -15,208,678 (42.08%); Joseph Estrada – 9,487,837      (26.25%);

    Manny
    Villar – 5,573,835 (15.42%); Gilberto Teodoro – 4,095,839 (11.33%)

     

    Remember,
    in May 2010 elections Sen. Bong Revilla topped and got 19,513,521 or 51.15%.

     

    Another
    option (2M @ 6H) that is, for the 2 million hard core pro-life catholics to
    convince at least 6 each (2 million x 6 = 12 million) enough to win a senate
    seat for the Church.

     

    In May
    2010 elections, Teofisto Guingona III was last with 10,277,352 votes or 26.94%.

     

    National
    registered voters: 51,292,465 (May 2010 Elections)

     

    Having
    THIS as campaign platform: CBCP encourages Catholic Vote who in turn supports
    ‘WORTHY CANDIDATES’.

     

    Candidates
    means Senatoriables and congressmen. At the congressional district level (or
    Party List), 200K are already a swing votes for PRO-LIFE CANDIDATES.

     

    Put these
    candidates’ names in a tarpaulin in all parishes. Faith communities may
    contribute for the tarpaulin to be prominently displayed in parish grounds.

     

    Catholics
    must be PRO-ACTIVE. Ensure that those WHO will be elected are PRO-LIFE.

    • Crazy_horse101010

      put up posers of the child rapers and their names

  • batangsulpok

    Sa Pilipinas lang naman hindi maipatupad ang separation of church and state dahil masyadong takot ng mga pulitiko natin sa CBCP, pati mga tao ay sunod-sunuran kahit anong sabihin ng simbahan dahil nga karamihan ay katoliko pero sana naman ay gamitin nila ang kanilang pag-iisip, hindi relihiyon kung gusto nilang umasenso ang bansa.

    • frudo

      hangang ngayon kasi di pa tayo lubusang lumalaya sa mapangaliping relihiyon! kaya lubog parin ang Pinas.

  • $41083759

    Sana kung may budget sila para dyan, may budget din silang ipost nang malaki sa harap ng simbahan at mababasa ng mga taong nasa daan ang schedule ng mga misa at kumpisal.

  • doublecross

    mga pari, gahaman sa pera, pati politika dinadamay.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AX6JJVDK2YVZ56DN4TTOMJFRHI Doods

    The catholic church will be at the losing end.
    Remember, they may win the arguments, pero talo pa rin sila because of divisiveness and hatred that it will create when we mix religion and politics altogether. There is no solid catholic votes kaya sila mismo ang maglalaban-laban na puro mga katoliko…..so ang end result magiging masyadong highly politicized ang catholic church which will at the end bounce back to the church itself in the future…..
    By the way meron na bang SEXUAL ABUSE LIST ng mga pari. I presume this will be the next issues in the future……let us see.

  • GKLer

    Hanging these cheap posters – DISGRACEFUL – on the part of the Church.

  • mangtom

    May bagong Team ang Catolico: Team Fun-composed of pedophile and  rapist priests. CumPADRE kumusta po si kuMARE? Rhythm method or condom ang ginagamit ninyo?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5UOZM4PWIDKO7G64HL3PPMXUTM Constantine

      Hindi lang hypocrite ang mga Obispo, mga rapists at pedophiles pa!

  • TheHappyAgnostic

    It is pathetic to see the pedophile institution twist the law in their own favor. it is now becoming a pattern. in colorado, the catholic lawyers argued that the fetus is not a person (yes, you are reading it right, anti-rh people) when a catholic deathcare, i mean healthcare is being sued for malpractice. in the uk, the catholic church argues that the church is not liable for crimes committed by priests for according to the catholic church the priests are self-employed. catholics, stop fooling yourself. the pedophile institution does not care for the unborn, it does not even care for its own “self-employed” priests. all they care for is money.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5UOZM4PWIDKO7G64HL3PPMXUTM Constantine

      I agree that’s why there is a massive dwindling of churchgoers. Filipinos are now mad at the hypocrite Bishops!

    • Crazy_horse101010

      the pope also said child raping is not a crime but a sin and sinners can be forgiven. tell that to the victims. like one bishop said first time rapers should not be arrested. another said it was the jews fault and another more recently said it was the fault of the children they seduce priests so they can sue them later. 3 years old and thinking about lawsuits

  • leadyourself

    and we expect the world to think our elections are legitimate? if comelec has no teeth, then why are they funded?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5UOZM4PWIDKO7G64HL3PPMXUTM Constantine

    Why not post these type of tarpaulins to all churches nationwide? At any rate, the 5 senators who belong to Team PNoy will win decisively! Nobody believes these corrupt Bishops anymore! They are the highest type of hypocrites. 

    • Magsasaka

       i agree

    • jimi_c

      I agree. They supported the corrupt suspended governor of Cebu because of her donation to the church coming from taxpayers money.  However, Catholic Faith still strong in our country but we must just ignore our church leaders action and continue believing in our faith because they are also sinners..

    • rightist

      Being pro RH is a positive trait for me. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UV3253P26T3VMQLVA2C6BZ47TU Marco

    hey people! hindi lahat ng pari at obispo ay ganun. wag naman natin silang lahatin. kagaya din yan ng isang institution na may mali. hindi natin nakikita kabutihan ng simbahan kasi hindi tayo derektang nakikinabang dito. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/margarettes.reyes Margarettes Reyes

       may punto ka jan…

  • JOHNCeneza

    Good that the church provided for the list that are ant-rh whom i will not vote

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/T4SWLHNUW7EP5HLD2WIXUY4ZP4 Rey

    ayus to pinapakita lang na at the end mananaig pa rin ang kabutihan laban sa mga nagsusulong ng kasamaan dito sa mundo sa pamamagitan ng paggawa ng walang kwentang batas tulad ng RH Bill. tama lang ginagawa ng Catholic Church na maipakita kung sino ang mga mananagot kapag hindi nagtagumpay ang RH Bill na yan at kung sino ang mga Anti Christ (Team Patay). Tuloy lang ang laban alam kung nakabantay at nakagabay pa din ang Founder ng Catholic Church ni si Kristo sa mga gawaing nakakabuti para sa lahat ng tao.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/C7CQMX5GVQSVWMUUNTZVAM4YZE Toadyfroggy

    Those religious people are so worried of the unborn, they do everything…. But once you are born, youre ON YOUR OWN!!! 

  • virgo57

    The CBCP hierarchy are bunch of hypocrites. They opposed anyone that will not provide their caprices. These coddlers of pedophiles, gays, corrupt and fatherd priest should discerned and understand their stone age doctrine as they seems they are worst of its kind in the planet. Twisted idiot backward ideology Roman Catholic.

  • catmanjohn

    As long as the Catholic Church supports the likes of Enrile, and goes against public servants like Trillanes, they must not be taken as the righteous path, for their collusion with the corrupt is still evident. The Catholic Church is mired by not only numerous pedophile charges, but also with priests having partaken in gay orgies with male prostitutes, while they get dragged out like BB Gangbanghari on steroids. This starts to loose it humor quickly as the moral compass deviates even further from the force of Good, while the mass follows them blindly into the dark abyss. 

  • jinx

    Have you ever wondered why most of those opposed to RH bill are Filipino middle-aged men led by these shenanigan priests? They don’t want progress because for them progress meant losing their power and influence.  Because of these people and their twisted beliefs, we have a burgeoning population: too many unemployed despite the fact that there are too many OFWs scattered around the world.  If poor people are empowered and enlightened and decide for themselves the size of their families, I am sure the priests, the corrupt mayors and governors, senatongs like Enrile, Sotto and Estrada, would not be as powerful as they are today.  I doubt if will even be enjoying their current respective positions. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A3273KUQTIAOHAOVUS2ENGYMVI zaldy

    The Bishops are self-destructing, majority of Filipinos are pro-Rh Bill!! So your list of anti-RH Bill or Buhay Team will suffer from this stupid act of hatred by the Pagan Church!! ha!ha!ha! good for you Pedophile Priests!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WIWYLFLU4LPKS7B2ZLLRVFKS3Y vir_a

    The other dioceses in the country should also do this to guide ignorant voters who should be voted. The criteria should not only about RH bill but also family political dynasty and candidates history of corruption activities.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PUW7UXRWMOUWUDZQMQODGNKJ6Q Read

    “This is a decision of our lay faithful. The ordinary faithful are raring to go to war”…This is long overdue. 

    THE CHURCH MUST BE PRO-ACTIVE. REJECT THOSE CANDIDATES WHO WILL BE A HEADACHE ONCE ELECTED. 

    DEATHS candidates. TEAM PATAY.

    • Jarred Pulido

      That almost all of our candidates for all level.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ABX6VOZNIXWFCCEA3G4XPOWPLA JJ

    team Damaso!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    SOLA SCRIPTURA – Protestant Fundamentalist Born Again
    A twisted TRUTH!

    If St. Paul
    had been promulgating sola scriptura in 1 Corinthians 4 he would have been in
    conflict with the practice of the rest of the apostles. Most of the apostles
    never wrote a single line of Scripture; instead they transmitted the deposit of
    faith orally. Did their oral teachings carry any less weight of authority than
    the written teachings of Paul or Peter or John?

     

    None of the other apostles taught sola scriptura. In fact,
    John said, “I have much to write to you, but I do not wish to write with pen
    and ink. Instead, I hope to see you soon when we can talk face to face” (3
    John 13). Why would the apostle emphasize his preference for oral Tradition
    over written Tradition (a preference he reiterates in 2 John 12) if, as
    proponents of sola scriptura assert, Scripture is superior to oral Tradition?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

      resignation of the Pope speaks a lot …..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    SOLA SCRIPTURA – Protestant Fundamentalist Born Again
    A twisted TRUTH!

    The already flimsy case for sola scriptura is further weakened by Paul’s comments in 1 Corinthians 11:2 where he praises the Christians in Corinth for holding fast to the traditions just as he had handed them on to them. It’s clear from the context that he was referring to oral Tradition because the Corinthians had as yet no New Testament Scriptures, 1 Corinthians being the very first letter Paul had sent them. Prior to this letter all his teaching had been oral.

    The same is true in the case of the Ephesians to whom Paul said, “I did not shrink from proclaiming to you the entire plan of God” (Acts 20:27). This statement undercuts sola scriptura. Paul remained in Ephesus for over two years teaching the faith so diligently that “all the inhabitants of the province of Asia heard the word of the Lord” (Acts 19:10), yet his epistle to the Ephesians is a scant four or five pages and could not even begin to touch upon all the doctrines he taught them orally.”

  • nakatutok

    kasalanan ni GMA yan….

  • UrHONOR

    THAT’S OK….that’s all right.  But REMEMBER and don’t you ever forget….that AFTER DEATH, there is RESURRECTION.  They can kill whomever they want to (thou shalt not kill) for the nonce, but come election time, the dead will come again and rise and triumph over the evil and malefactors…. and they will slay all the unbelievers till they are no more.

    Let the sycophantic ill wishers rejoice and let them manifest their true color, for after the joyous journey comes the sorrowful phase.  There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth in the kingdom of the holier-than-thou, goody-goody goons in white.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/C7CQMX5GVQSVWMUUNTZVAM4YZE Toadyfroggy

      ummn… given the assumption that ur religion is the TRUE religion out of thousand that exist to this date… :)

      • UrHONOR

        UNFORTUNATELY, the given assumption is false. :)

  • okabato

    It’s good the church is putting its “influence” over the faithful on the line. We will know then come May 30, 2013.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/C6JNBSASOMJPKK63TBJUYCVWXQ Emman

    sana may maglagay sa bawat simbahan………” BABALA: MAARING MAY PEDOPHILA SA LOOB”…………..siguro naman walang tutol dito any way paalala lang naman ito sa mga tao………….. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/C6JNBSASOMJPKK63TBJUYCVWXQ Emman

    TEAM OBISPO MANYAK VS TEAM OBISPO PIGILGIGIL…………..TEAM OBISPOHIPO VS TEAM OBISOSALSAL……………TEAM PAJERO VS TEAM COMMUTE………………TEAM KUNWARI LALAKI VS TEAM NAGSASALALAKI ………….TEAM ILIKEYOUNGBOYS VS TEAM ILIKE VIRGINS…………TEAM EPAL VS TEAM EBAK……………TEAM PKIALAMERO VS TEAM PAKIALAMERA

  • Katuwiran

    As a catholic church worker myself, I find the defition of team patay and team buhay so limited and erronous. Pro-life issues are difinitely more and beyond the confines of a rejection to the RH law. This sends a wrong signal to what the Catholic Church us all about.

  • dodong1

    MAGPAGAWA RIN TAYO NG TARPULIN NA MERON:

    TEAM MOLESTIA O TEAM PEDOPHILIA…AT ILAGAY LAHAT SA HARAPAN NG SIMBAHAN!!

    • beboergosum

      eh ano mapapala nun, di naman sila kumakandidato.  medyo konting ikot pa ng turnilyo mo.  

      • dodong1

        para ipaalam sa mga tao na meron mga moletiador at pedophilia ng simbahan..KUHA MO!!!

      • beboergosum

        Eh dodong, ang paulit-ulit-ulit na info, eh nakakasawa at wa epek na in the end. Ang tawag dun sa psychology eh, extinction. So perhaps we can do better by just trying to stick to the issue, baka mas may patutunguhan pa yun. Gets mo!

      • dodong1

        mas maganda yung inuulit ulit dahil matanim sa kokote mo GETS MO!!

      • beboergosum

        Okey sana yan strategy mo eh, kaya lang science doesn’t agree with you. balikan mo psych 101. :b)

      • dodong1

        hindi kailangan ng science science dito dahil ilang pari na ang na kompirmang guilty sa molestations ng mga bata..ilang milyones na dollares narin ang binayad nila para ma settle ang mga kaso. in fact ka reresign lang ng isang obispo ng uk dahil sa ginawang kasamaan sa pagiging pedophilia…SANA MAKUHA MUNA..

      • beboergosum

        Sige na hehehe, kulang lang sa ligo yan…

      • dodong1

        he he he he, siguro nga pero suko ka na..ha ha ha ha

      • Guest

        eto na yung hinnhintay mong listahan…ha ha ha ha
        TEAM PEDOPHILIA/MOLESTIA…
        The blacklist included: Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana; Cardinal Tarsicio Bertone of Italy; Cardinal Dominik Duka of Czech Republic; Cardinal Norberto Rivera Carrera of Mexico; Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga of Honduras; Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York; Cardinal Donald Wuerl of Washington; Cardinal Sean O’Malley of Boston; Cardinal Angelo Scola of Italy; Cardinal Leonardo Sandri of Argentina; Cardinal George Pell of Australia; and Cardinal Marc Ouellet of Quebec, Canada.

      • beboergosum

        Oo suko na bro mukang sarado ka eh, katoliko or non-catholic mukang di ka believe eh. Di ka naman atheist, or are you? Just curious :b)

      • dodong1

        hindi ako atheist bro..kaya lang dapat hindi pinaghahalo ang state sa religion..kaya nga dapat ang mga damasos hindi nakikialam sa gobyerno kaya lang dyan lang yata sa Pinas nangyayari ito dahil masyadong brainwash ang mga tao sa paniniwala nila sa mga damasos…

      • beboergosum

        Sa overseas ka pala, modern-day hero sabi nga :b) Ako din sang-ayon sa separation of state and church (talk about the inquisition and all). Ang sa tingin ko lang eh prang masyadong exaggerated ang pag-gamit neto. Kasi marami din naman sa kaparian at kamadrehan na talagang honest to goodness na tumutulong sa mga tao. Ang problema mga poliko na nasa pwesto and their private armies, militar na rin at kapulisan. Ang reservation ko dito sa separation of church and state, eh baka wala ng maglakas loob mag-check sa mga abuses ng politiko when the common people can’t do so, dahil sa kahinaan o limitasyon sa kaalaman. Maraming mga pari at madre esp in the 70s na tinaya ang buhay para sa bayan. Sabi nga ni Archbishop Dom Helder Camara ng Brazil, “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. But when I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” To be fair brod, ‘di ba dapat balanse rin ang pagtingin.

  • azkal futbol

    umiral na naman ang pakikialam ng mga DAMASO. kaya nag-resign ang papa ay dahil di na masikmura ang kabalbalang ginagawa ng kanyang mga kaparian. wala palang kwenta ang performance ng isang kandidato basta umaayon sa kagustuhan nila. kaya kahit pala manloko o manlamang ang isang tao basta hayagang umaayon sa gusto ng simbahang katoliko ay itong mga damaso pa ang kakampanya para sila ay mahalal. asan ang separation of church and state na ipinangangalandakan at nakikialam sila sa panuntunan ng gobyerno. sana mapakain ng katoliko ang milyong naghihirap dahil sa walang kontrol na pagpapamilya. hwag sana i-atang sa gobyerno ang pagpapakain sa mga alipores nila.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

    Actually, lahat ng supporters ni penoy ay team patay.

  • Yobhtron

    Justice for the pedophile victims!  Time to put “BEWARE OF PEDOPHILES” in front of the Roman Catholic Churches nationwide.  IBASURA ANG TEAM DAMASO!

    • beboergosum

      Walang kwenta yan sinisigaw mo Voltron, hindi nmn sila kumakandidato eh.  

      • Yobhtron

        Team Buhay = Team Damaso.

      • beboergosum

        Okay. Ma-buhay ka voltron. raise the roof, yehey! :b)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

     BEWARE !!!

    The Great Heresies Supported by Protestants/Born Again
    Fundamentalists

     

    From Christianity’s beginnings, the Church has been attacked
    by those introducing false teachings, or heresies.

     

    The Bible warned us this would happen. Paul told his young
    protégé, Timothy, “For the time is coming when people will not endure
    sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves
    teachers to suit their own likings, and will turn away from listening to the
    truth and wander into myths” (2 Tim. 4:3–4).

     

     

    What Is Heresy?

     

    Heresy is an emotionally loaded term that is often misused.
    It is not the same thing as incredulity, schism, apostasy, or other sins
    against faith. The Catechism of the Catholic Church states, “Incredulity
    is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it. Heresy
    is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed
    with divine and Catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning
    the same; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is
    the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members
    of the Church subject to him”

     

    To commit heresy, one must refuse to be corrected. A person
    who is ready to be corrected or who is unaware that what he has been saying is
    against Church teaching is not a heretic.

     

    A person must be baptized to commit heresy. This means that
    movements that have split off from or been influenced by Christianity, but that
    do not practice baptism (or do not practice valid baptism), are not heresies,
    but separate religions. Examples include Muslims, who do not practice baptism,
    and Jehovah’s Witnesses, who do not practice valid baptism.

     

    Finally, the doubt or denial involved in heresy must concern
    a matter that has been revealed by God and solemnly defined by the Church (for
    example, the Trinity, the Incarnation, the Real Presence of Christ in the
    Eucharist, the sacrifice of the Mass, the pope’s infallibility, or the
    Immaculate Conception and Assumption of Mary).

     

    It is important to distinguish heresy from schism and
    apostasy. In schism, one separates from the Catholic Church without repudiating
    a defined doctrine. An example of a contemporary schism is the Society of St. Pius X—the “Lefebvrists” or followers of
    the late Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre—who separated from the Church in the late
    1980s, but who have not denied Catholic doctrines. In apostasy, one totally
    repudiates the Christian faith and no longer even claims to be a Christian. 

  • Maitum

    Wala na ngang naitulong sa taumbayan, nanggugulo pa. Nag resign na nga yung Papa dahil sa kabulukan ninyo.

  • beboergosum

    hindi dahil dun nagresign.

  • beboergosum

    Madami natutulong sa taumbayan, di mo lang alam.  

  • Filipinoflash

    Hayaan na lang natin ang Team Damaso. Wala namang nakikinig sa kanilang mga hirit. yung Team Buhay nila pa ang ibasura ng mga botante. 

  • TinimbangNgunitKulang

    Sira ulo yata ni Brillantes. Paulit ulit na yung size daw ang nireregulate ng Comelec at hindi kung election propaganda material yung church poster. If they are not sure its not election propaganda material, then why talk about size?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DKHID3EEHTG27U5JXRIIUVKXQA Jose Rizal

    St. John the Baptist and his zealous faith is one of the strength of the Church.  The Church like John the Baptist should be vocal about IMMORALITY issues like the installation of KKK’s in Noynoy’s government for the latter’s self-preservation and the ECONOMIC IMMORALITIES done by the OLIGARCHS on ALMOST ALL GOVERNMENT CONCESSIONS at the disadvantage of the poor.  St. John the Baptist, although vocal about his faith, didn’t call for an uprising against the government, but vocally call for the head of the government to change.
    I encourage the Church, in this year of faith, to do what had been done by St. John the Baptist, even though it caused him his head.
    God Bless us all! 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

     

    SCRIPTURE ALONE Disproves “SOLA SCRIPTURA” of
    Fundamentalist Born Again!

    BEWARE OF SOLA SCRIPTURA ( Bible Theory)

     

    I. Scripture Alone Disproves “Scripture Alone”

     

    Gen. to Rev. – Scripture never says that Scripture is the
    sole infallible authority for God’s Word. Scripture also mandates the use of
    tradition. This fact alone disproves sola Scriptura.

     

    Matt. 28:19; Mark 16:15 – those that preached the Gospel to
    all creation but did not write the Gospel were not less obedient to Jesus, or
    their teachings less important.

     

    Matt. 28:20 – “observe ALL I have commanded,” but,
    as we see in John 20:30; 21:25, not ALL Jesus taught is in Scripture. So there
    must be things outside of Scripture that we must observe. This disproves
    “Bible alone” theology.

     

    Mark 16:15 – Jesus commands the apostles to
    “preach,” not write, and only three apostles wrote. The others who did
    not write were not less faithful to Jesus, because Jesus gave them no directive
    to write. There is no evidence in the Bible or elsewhere that Jesus intended
    the Bible to be sole authority of the Christian faith.

     

    Luke 1:1-4 – Luke acknowledges that the faithful have
    already received the teachings of Christ, and is writing his Gospel only so
    that they “realize the certainty of the teachings you have received.”
    Luke writes to verify the oral tradition they already received.

     

    John 20:30; 21:25 – Jesus did many other things not written
    in the Scriptures. These have been preserved through the oral apostolic
    tradition and they are equally a part of the Deposit of Faith.

     

    Acts 8:30-31; Heb. 5:12 – these verses show that we need
    help in interpreting the Scriptures. We cannot interpret them infallibly on our
    own. We need divinely appointed leadership within the Church to teach us.

     

    Acts 15:1-14 – Peter resolves the Church’s first doctrinal
    issue regarding circumcision without referring to Scriptures.

     

    Acts 17:28 – Paul quotes the writings of the pagan poets
    when he taught at the Aeropagus. Thus, Paul appeals to sources outside of
    Scripture to teach about God.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/C7CQMX5GVQSVWMUUNTZVAM4YZE Toadyfroggy

      in short… we don’t need the bible… :)

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        what we need is the bible and the tradition! dont be tasiong pilosopo!

      • ever green

        maybe so….but we dont need the church!!!

      • frudo

        Bible na lang wag na yung tradition nyo, 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/C7CQMX5GVQSVWMUUNTZVAM4YZE Toadyfroggy

        well, hindi ako namimilosopo… Seriously, what,s the use of the bible?? For moral code?? Oh come on, if u really read the bible u will realize that it not a good source of morality, i’m talking about some passages that promote slavery, harsh punishments, death penalty….
        For guidance?? well, is it reasonable to let one book to guide you???

        hehehehe…

      • Crazy_horse101010

        what we need is fewer fanatics preaching to us. maybe birth control will take care of that

      • UrHONOR

        LOL!

    • Crazy_horse101010

      its easy to see why they need birth control in this country

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        what s your argument born again fundamentalist?

      • Crazy_horse101010

        you your so noisy your hurting my ears. with your ravings hypocrite. at least you learned a new word how hours did it take you to find it

    • Petrus_Romanus

      Jesus said in Matthew 5

      17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

    If this is not meddling by the catholic church I don’t know what u can call it…

    • philip hernaez

      guide or suggestion…

      • frudo

        yung si nancy binay sama din nila sa team patay sa pro rh din yun.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    Catholics don’t be afraid of this Fundamentalist Born Again.

    Fight with Scriptures on their SOLA SCRIPTURA (Bible Theory)
    Claim

    Don’t be victims of their FALLACIES!!! B E W A R E !!!

     

     

    1 Cor. 5:9-11 – this verse shows that a prior letter written
    to Corinth is
    equally authoritative but not part of the New Testament canon. Paul is again
    appealing to a source outside of Scripture to teach the Corinthians. This
    disproves Scripture alone.

     

    1 Cor. 11:2 – Paul commends the faithful to obey apostolic
    tradition, and not Scripture alone.

     

    Phil. 4:9 – Paul says that what you have learned and
    received and heard and seen in me, do. There is nothing ever about obeying
    Scripture alone.

     

    Col. 4:16 – this verse shows that a prior letter written to Laodicea is equally
    authoritative but not part of the New Testament canon. Paul once again appeals
    to a source outside of the Bible to teach about the Word of God.

     

    1 Thess. 2:13 – Paul says, “when you received the word of
    God, which you heard from us..” How can the Bible be teaching first century
    Christians that only the Bible is their infallible source of teaching if, at
    the same time, oral revelation was being given to them as well? Protestants
    can’t claim that there is one authority (Bible) while allowing two sources of
    authority (Bible and oral revelation).

     

    1 Thess. 3:10 – Paul wants to see the Thessalonians face to
    face and supply what is lacking. His letter is not enough.

     

    2 Thess. 2:14 – Paul says that God has called us
    “through our Gospel.” What is the fullness of the Gospel?

     

    2 Thess. 2:15 – the fullness of the Gospel is the apostolic
    tradition which includes either teaching by word of mouth or by letter.
    Scripture does not say “letter alone.” The Catholic Church has the
    fullness of the Christian faith through its rich traditions of Scripture, oral
    tradition and teaching authority (or Magisterium).

     

    2 Thess 3:6 – Paul instructs us to obey apostolic tradition.
    There is no instruction in the Scriptures about obeying the Bible alone (the
    word “Bible” is not even in the Bible).

     

    1 Tim. 3:14-15 – Paul prefers to speak and not write, and is
    writing only in the event that he is delayed and cannot be with Timothy.

     

    2 Tim. 2:2 – Paul says apostolic tradition is passed on to
    future generations, but he says nothing about all apostolic traditions being
    eventually committed to the Bible.

     

    2 Tim. 3:14 – continue in what you have learned and believed
    knowing from whom you learned it. Again, this refers to tradition which is
    found outside of the Bible.

    • Petrus_Romanus

      2 Timothy 3:16-17
      16 All Scripture is inspired by God[a] and is profitable for teaching, for rebuking, for correcting, for training in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

  • philip hernaez

    WALA NMN PINUPWEERSA ANG SIMBAHAN KUNG SINO ANG IBOBOTO MO..

    • duviz7533

      so suportahan nila ang mga pro life na senators.like enrile,soto,revilla and estarda,just asking

  • duviz7533

    pati yata mga bishops nakatangap ng bribenos kay sen prez

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    Catholics don’t be afraid of this Fundamentalist Born Again. Be armed with TRUTH!!!

    Fight with Scriptures on their SOLA SCRIPTURA (Bible Theory) Claim
    Don’t be victims of their FALLACIES!!! B E W A R E !!!

    1 Cor. 5:9-11 – this verse shows that a prior letter written to Corinth is equally authoritative but not part of the New Testament canon. Paul is again appealing to a source outside of Scripture to teach the Corinthians. This disproves Scripture alone.

    1 Cor. 11:2 – Paul commends the faithful to obey apostolic tradition, and not Scripture alone.

    Phil. 4:9 – Paul says that what you have learned and received and heard and seen in me, do. There is nothing ever about obeying Scripture alone.

    Col. 4:16 – this verse shows that a prior letter written to Laodicea is equally authoritative but not part of the New Testament canon. Paul once again appeals to a source outside of the Bible to teach about the Word of God.

    1 Thess. 2:13 – Paul says, “when you received the word of God, which you heard from us..” How can the Bible be teaching first century Christians that only the Bible is their infallible source of teaching if, at the same time, oral revelation was being given to them as well? Protestants can’t claim that there is one authority (Bible) while allowing two sources of authority (Bible and oral revelation).
    itted to the Bible.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_T42Q37DX5BRWJ5NRYTBC2DXUAU Jols – batman Robin

    and2 n naman ung mga damaso…..kulang p cguru ung contribution… kailangan marami tao para marami contribution…..  magkano n naman kaya perang cnuhol ky father para gawin ito….

  • barrymtn

    If the church is going to takes sides on a political issue, it is involving itself in politics, and thus loses its tax exemptions.  Tax all church properties, the Philippines will become a rich country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/alejandro.begnalen Alejandro Begnalen

    Wag na lang kasi sanang sumawsaw ang simbahan sa politika. imbes na mag unite tayung mga pilipino mas lalo pa tayung naging hiwa hiwalay… kawawa dito ang taong bayan… sana kung mag desisyon sila gamitin naan sana nila yung konsensya nila di yung kung anu ang desisyun ng grupo kahit mali dun tayo… 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

     

    1 Thess. 3:10 – Paul wants to see the Thessalonians face to
    face and supply what is lacking. His letter is not enough.

     

    2 Thess. 2:14 – Paul says that God has called us
    “through our Gospel.” What is the fullness of the Gospel?

     

    2 Thess. 2:15 – the fullness of the Gospel is the apostolic
    tradition which includes either teaching by word of mouth or by letter.
    Scripture does not say “letter alone.” The Catholic Church has the
    fullness of the Christian faith through its rich traditions of Scripture, oral
    tradition and teaching authority (or Magisterium).

     

    2 Thess 3:6 – Paul instructs us to obey apostolic tradition.
    There is no instruction in the Scriptures about obeying the Bible alone (the
    word “Bible” is not even in the Bible).

     

    1 Tim. 3:14-15 – Paul prefers to speak and not write, and is
    writing only in the event that he is delayed and cannot be with Timothy.

     

    2 Tim. 2:2 – Paul says apostolic tradition is passed on to
    future generations, but he says nothing about all apostolic traditions being
    eventually committed to the Bible.

     

    2 Tim. 3:14 – continue in what you have learned and believed
    knowing from whom you learned it. Again, this refers to tradition which is
    found outside of the Bible.

     

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EP6GZIMVLAHETQ6GNP5O2P45GE Dominic

      Its just like ‘the written word vs oral tradition’. Which of the two would you like to believe in? Oral tradition, be it religious doctrine, practice or plain folklore is bound to change while being passed on while the written one is more immune to adulteration.  That’s the reason why practices in the past evolved to so many forms today you hardly know which is the closest to the original. And that is the danger of tradition, because after passing down generations, additions and deletions to it make it completely different from the first. 
      I am not a protestant, you might judge me as one, but the way you blast  them in your posts and the way you embrace priests with tarnished images makes me cringe at the sad thought that a lot of Catholics are still the middle ages. So close-minded and insecure of the changes of the time. I’m glad I am not like you, i can hear mass without being bound to the whims of the priest, i can pray without being enslaved by the so-called tradition, I can see God in the messages at the altar and not misconstrue Him as the priest himself, I can welcome other views and faiths without being afraid of them, I can see both the goodness and the bad side of the church, of the clergy, of the laity.

      Alas, there are still many who, like you, would rather live in the dark. Catholics, yes, but not the Catholics of God just Catholics of the bishops.

  • UrHONOR

    THE church is now a TARPO working for the TRAPOS.  Equals associate with equals easily.  Well, they deserve each other.

    • GKLer

      Oh shutup already LOL.  No one wants to hear what the FOOL atheist thinks about Church.  LOL.

      • UrHONOR

        YOU just did, TWERP!  Now run along and join your gay ragtag band of bible-toters and bible-quoters sanamagan of numerologists.  Correct, NO ONE…and you can be darn sure that NO ONE’s gonna want to hear from a TWERP like you.

        Like I said, no more PEARLS to SWINE and BARNACLES.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    Let it be known!!!   Protestantism: A Man-made Religion

    2 Peter 2:1- “But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there shall be among you lying teachers, who shall bring in sects of perdition, and deny the Lord who bought them: bringing upon themselves swift destruction.”

    There are thousands of different denominations today, all of them non-Catholic. Even the founding fathers of Protestantism could not agree on major doctrinal points. Thus, the bad fruits of there man-made religion is manifested in all this doctrinal chaos within the Protestant communities. 

    The Catholic Church is the one, true Church established by Jesus Christ. Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation.

    “The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that all those who are outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans but also Jews or heretics and schismatics, cannot share in eternal life and will go into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless they are joined to the Church before the end of their lives; that the unity of this ecclesiastical body is of such importance that only those who abide in it do the Church’s sacraments contribute to salvation and do fasts, almsgiving and other works of piety and practices of the Christian militia productive of eternal rewards; and that nobody can be saved, no matter how much he has given away in alms and even if he has shed blood in the name of Christ, unless he has persevered in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.”

    818 “However, one cannot charge with the sin of the separation those who at present are born into these communities [that resulted from such separation] and in them are brought up in the faith of Christ, and the Catholic Church accepts them with respect and affection as brothers . . . . All who have been justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church.”

    819 “Furthermore, many elements of sanctification and of truth” are found outside the visible confines of the Catholic Church: “the written Word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope, and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, as well as visible elements.” Christ’s Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of salvation, whose power derives from the fullness of grace and truth that Christ has entrusted to the Catholic Church. All these blessings come from Christ and lead to him, and are in themselves calls to “Catholic unity.”

    Protestantism is indeed a man-made religion for does not have Christ as its founder, but man who rebelled against our Lord’s Church and broke from it.

    • frudo

      nadadamay tuloy ang religion at ang Dios dahil sa ginagawa ng mga obispo kuno na to.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BGEXLIHIZFFENAK67D436QPP74 PBA

    Team Inutil (Sabah Issue)

  • joeybg

    SA MADALING SALITA, GUSTO NG SIMBAHANG KATOLIKA NA SUPORTAHAN ANG MGA PRO – LIFE….. SINO BA ANG MGA PRO – LIFE???

    ANG MGA KANDIDATO NG UNA, ANG MGA 3 HARING KAWATAN.

    SO, MGA RELIHIYOSO…. HUWAG NG MAGDALAWANG ISIP, IBOTO ANG MGA KAWATAN PARA SA DAANG MAGANDA.

    MGA TANGA AT BOBO SUNDIN ANG SINASABI NG INYONG MGA LIDER SA RELIHIYON, SILA ANG MAGBIBIGAY SA INYO NG MAGANDANG KABUHAYAN….. 

    KAPAG MAY TRAHEDYA SA INYONG BUHAY AT KAILANGAN NINYO NG TULONG LAPITAN NINYO ANG INYONG MGA LIDER SA RELIHIYON  AT, SIGURADONG ANG ITUTULONG SA INYO AY IPAGDARASAL KAYO…..

    ETO ANG PALAGING BUKANG BIBIG NG MGA LIDER NG MGA RELIHIYON….. MAPAPALAD KAYONG MGA MARALITA DAHIL KAYO AY BINIBIGYAN NG PAGSUBOK NG DIYOS, IKAW AY AKING IPAGDARASAL…… PALAGI NA LANG BA NA PAGDARASAL ANG KAYA NILANG ITULONG???

    IYAN ANG MGA TAONG NAGPAPANGGAP NA ALAGAD NG DIYOS AT GINAGAMIT ANG MGA SALITA NG DIYOS SA PAGPAPAYAMAN.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U62PHGMKO4RK7BLMC4ACA4EG5A EREC

    Isa ito sa mga ayaw ko sa patakaran ng ating hustisya….kaya nga may dumudlog sa kanila para mabigyan ng sulosyon na naayon sa interpretasyon ng batas….. ipinapalabas ng SC ay hindi sulosyon kundi distabilisasyon ng pamahalaan kung saan bigyan nila ng linaw ang bawat idinudulog sa kanila……..ITO ANG SINSASABI KONG SALA SALABAT, O MULTI-CROSS LINES OF LAWS BY INTERPRETATION. I think election is an especially situation in the country in which COMELEC has the jurisdiction its progams, planning & implementation and also given an specially duty under the law as a regulatory/ judiciary function embank to implement the rule of law concerning election process/regulations/qualification .

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U62PHGMKO4RK7BLMC4ACA4EG5A EREC

    Imbis po na maglagay ang simbahan catoliko ng mga ganyan …..mas katanggaptangap po sa akin na ang simbahan ay maglagay ng alituntunin o gabay sa pag pili ng politiko. Sa aking pag unawa sa ginagawa ng simbahang katoliko(na member ako) ito ay malinaw na panghihimasok na sa politka ng simbahan. Halimbawa, kung ang mga iniindurso nilang kandidato ay may lumitaw na baho…. dahil ito ay kanilang iniindurso, kasama na sila sa baho nito at pati ang mga meyembro ay damay na rin. Malinaw na sa ganitong sitwasyon ang simbahang mga kilos hindi sa kapayapaan at pagkakaisa o maka Diyos na gawain, kundi sa makatao at malapit sa Pera, Kalaswaan(SEX), Kriminalidad. Catholic church must allow the preist to marry and got family with seperation to the church, Must respect the constitution of the Philippines.

    • johnlagrimas

      RH Law does not respect the constitution that’s why it is put to question.  About the priests getting married, if you are a married priest, so be it, but you have no right to dictate the church.  And we Catholics do not want our priests to be married, we prefer them to be celibates.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        the vatican allready thinking about changing that then what are you going to do

      • frudo

        at dahil wala silang mga asawa, ano alam nila sa pagpapamilya wala nman silang experience, so wala rin silang rights para sabihin samin na kasalanan ang gumamit ng contraceptives,  

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VKYFNQXC5Z7XKUXSAMHMS2MD4M Ro

    hahaha mga talunan…. dadamihan pa namin mga tarps…. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U62PHGMKO4RK7BLMC4ACA4EG5A EREC

    Itong mga DAMASO/ESKRIBAS na ito ang nagsisira sa simbahang katoliko!!! Kaya ang mga faithful ay nadadamay narin sa kasiraan…… church must guide the voters by issuing guide lines & standard of qualification to be voted, church must not endorese political candidates!!! Church is not a political entity….. Church is a religious entity for quidance to commit peace.

  • magsasakasanayon

    “This is the work of the Supreme Court. Because we are law-abiding citizens in the land, we should be law-abiding people. If that is what the Supreme Court said, sorry na lang sa Comelec,” said Cebu Archbishop Jose Palma, CBCP president.

    And yet this idiot bishops can’t abide the RH Law. Hypocrites.

    • johnlagrimas

      …you are more idiot as revealed in your opinion.  Can’t you see? RH Law is voted by idiot congressmen and senators so it is an idiotic law and only idiots would support or follow it.  RH Law is violating the supreme law of the land that is why it is put into question.  Poor logic!

      • magsasakasanayon

        geez. another idiot. a law is still a law unless declared unconstitutional with finality by the supreme court. but until then, every citizen of this republic should abide by it, idiotic bishops or not.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        the rest of the wold is wrong and the millions of catholic women are going to hell for using birth control. why doest the church kick them out its because of money that they dont dare especially since millions of people have bailed out from the church and they lost all that money

      • frudo

        tapos na ang tungkol sa rh bill move on nalang, ihinto na paghihiganti,  yan ang turo ng simbahan mo. yung mga congresman at mga senador na sinasabi mong mga idiot, ibonoto sila ng mga katoliko rin na kagaya mo, kaya yung mga bomoto sa kanila idiot din ba? mag asawa ka at mag pamilya muna para maintindihan mo ang rh bill,  

  • TwiggyRamirez

    “This is the work of the Supreme Court. Because we are law-abiding citizens in the land, we should be law-abiding people. If that is what the Supreme Court said, sorry na lang sa Comelec,” said Cebu Archbishop Jose Palma, CBCP president.”

    …we already have the Reproductive Health Law in the Philippines, do you (the CBCP) follow and support that when you say: “we should be law-abiding people”? of course not, you’re all hypocrites kase.

    • johnlagrimas

      …because RH Law is not abiding the supreme law of the land that is why it is put into question!  What a poor logic you have.

      • TwiggyRamirez

        …and priests, bishops, cardinals sexually abusing innocent children abides the supreme law of the land?

      • Crazy_horse101010

        more insults i notice when catholic talk to a person first they talk to them like their a child then when that dont work they have resort to insults and name calling. this is not the 1400s where you can bully people 

  • superlucky2

    SANA LAHAT NG SIMBAHAN SA PILIPINAS MAG-LAGAY NG TEAM PATAY TARP. MABUHAY ANG SIMBAHANG KATOLIKO.

  • mangtom

    It looks like if the cone heads are elected by the faithful, 99% would not be cone heads – the faithful just do not trust you cone heads as evidenced by the postings of your members.

  • Felix Alcantara

    This is simply preposterous. Clearly, the Comelec’s concerned is only on the the size of the tarpaulin not on the question on the separation of state and church. The arrogant catholic friars, just like when our country was still under the rule of Spain, wanted again to show their mightiness by posting any propaganda wantonly. These bunch of hypocrites were so devastated that the RH Bill was passed because somehow this law might to some extent will lessen childbirth rate in our country and normally, the friars business of baptizing infants will drastically be affected as well as their income. 

    • johnlagrimas

      …you are an ignorant fool and yet full of arrogance!  We Catholics are not devastated by the passing of RH, it devastated the nation – if you have the mind to discern its effects. And we care for that.  You always equate everything with money – that’s what you are but we are not!

      • Crazy_horse101010

        it has everything to do with money. there is only one rich catholic country in the world the vatican where people live like kings a country whos only harvest is people. especially the poor and dont tell me they help the poor because i live among the poor and they do nothing they even admit it. maybe in the cities they help the poor where they are in the open but not in the rural they do nothing.. i asked one poor person when i came here does the church do anything and he laughed and said they they take but give nothing. now bring on your childish name calling.

    • rouelcalzita

      Everyone has the Right to Express. Regardless of the separation of state and church.
      Article III: Bill of Rights
      Section 4. No law shall be passed abridging the freedom of speech, of expression, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and petition the government for redress of grievances.

  • tamakajan

    “L”

  • Maldi2

    Ang sama ng balitang ito!  Baka lalagyan ni Simeon ng lason ang mga iinumin ng mga Bishops mamaya sa Dinner Party nila! bwahahahahaha!

    • scorpio15

      Masama ang Laman ng Utak mo. Laman Aligi.

      • UrHONOR

        SALAMAT sa papuri.  Sa tribo namin, masarap at kinakain ang alige (diri sa Maynila dili aligi dhong…alige).  Ang kinatatakutan namin ay yong SCORPION na punong-puno ng LASON, hindi lang ang utak, bituka, at balunbalunan… kundi pati na ang PUSONG mamon.  Tama ba Scorpio numero 15?  Ikamusta mo nga pala ako kay 12! :)

  • crocodiledundee

    kung ayaw mo sa patakaran ng simbahang katolika alis ka na lang lipat ka na lang sa iba… kung saan sang-ayon ang kaisipan mo sa paniniwala at liderato nila. wala din namang nilabag na batas ang mga obispo o simbahan katolika cguro pag nagumpisa na silang pwersahin alisin mga nakasuot na condom o iud sa magtatalik e ibang usapan na yun hehehe…

    • brunogiordano

      “Five hundred years ago, a disillusioned Catholic faced a brutal choice: He denied his church on penalty of torture or death. Now, he can just slip away. He might be just as happy to be Protestant, finding comfort and familiarity among the Episcopalians, who have made recruiting lapsed Catholics a priority. He might find joy in the preaching of a non-denominational minister. He might find himself among the “nones,” practicing yoga and reading spiritual books, unaffiliated with any church tradition. The nones are the fastest-growing religious group in the WORLD”

      Iyan ang ginagawa ngayon ng maraming mga KATOLIKO.

      Bawas limos iyan para sa simbahan.

      • crocodiledundee

        sana nga mabawasan na katoliko esp. yung mga reklamador at ng makapag-simba naman ako ng maayos sa baclaran at quiapo…etc … palage na lang siksikan dun padami ng padami tao… anyway its anyones choice kung saan cya comfortable dun cya… ako’y katoliko so ano man ang official stand sa mga issues ng simbahang katolika susundin ko kc me faith ako sa kanila and i know guided mga decisions nila… gaya na din ng mga ibang protestante, born again na sumusunod din sa mga lider nila and with regards sa limos wala kang ibigay, singko, piso, sangdaan, sang libo, sang milyon tanggap po lahat yan bastat kung ano kaya mo oks lang maski sulat lang ihulog mo to ask for prayers oks din … peace be with you sir.

      • rouelcalzita

        My Dear Friend…there is no religion in this world w/c is free from any sort of scandals.Regardless, of any religion/sect you belong.Religion is an organized collection of belief systems, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity too spiritually and, sometimes, to moral values.

      • frudo

        so ganun nman pala ang religion eh. kaya wag na sila makialam sa gobyerno at mag malinis pa, 

    • noyab

       MAG IGLESIA NI MANALO KA NA LANG TUTAL BOBO KA NAMAN GAYA MG MGA INC

  • joeybg

    Mga Tanga at Bobo, makinig sa sinsabi ng ating mga Obispo…… ” Humayo tayo at magparami”.

    Tingnan natin kung ano ang Itutulong sa inyo ng mga Obispo kapag lumobo ang bilang ng Pamilya ninyo.

    Sigurado ang sasabihin lang sa Inyo ng mga Obispo ” Mapalad kayo dahil binibigyan kayo ng Biyaya ng Panginoon”, ipagdarasal ko ang pamilya mo.

    • johnlagrimas

      …well, it’s obvious you are an unbeliever.., so what’s the matter, you cannot understand the language of faith. So, shut up!

      • joeybg

        Hindi naniniwala???  I’m a Catholic, born and baptise as a Catholic….. pero hindi ako Tanga at Bobo na maniniwala sa bawat sabihin ng mga Obispo o Pari.

        Saan ba nakalagay sa Biblia na magtayo ng sariling relihiyon at manghingi ng donasyon?? 

        You are a Believer ?? siguro naniniwala ka lang sa mga Obispo mo o Pari, hindi sa Panginoon. 

        Wake up.

      • crocodiledundee

        sir joey you lost your faith on the catholic church and its leaders… with that you cannot claim that you are a catholic anymore i think its about time you seek a new group wherein your beliefs will be compatible to theirs. may god guide you and peace be with you. good luck.

      • joeybg

        You are right , I lost faith on the Catholic church and the “pretend” leaders but , I didn’t lost faith to the creatures.

        I always pray to the God Almighty with my family and read the bible.

        I pray to God not just to thank Him or believe Him, I pray to Him by helping others people that really needs help, not to go to the church and give my money to the rich people that already have enough to live. 

        Believing to the God is not by only praying or going church every Sunday, is how you helps the needy.

        Alam mo ba ang ibig sabihin ng ” Magsimba Ka Tuwing Linggo At Pistang Pangiling”??

      • noyab

         INC LANG ANG NAGTAYO NG SARILI RELIGION “”MANALOISTA”

      • Crazy_horse101010

        where in the bible does it say using a condom is murder when priests are handing out in africa to prevent aids and your wasting your time if you are going to tell me shut.and i was a catholic until the wholesale of rape of children in my country and the vatican aiding and abetting in the crime. so start the usual insults and name calling.

  • johnlagrimas

     

    September
    30, 2010. That was the day Carlos Celdran unfurled his banner, replete of any
    fancy decorations, save for one word which would encapsulate the pro-RH
    battlecry: DAMASO.

     

    Technically
    speaking, Celdran and the RH camp were wrong with the Damaso usage, if they
    wanted to portray the Church and the clergy as the bad guys; in the novel Noli
    me Tangere, it was actually Padre Salvi who was the bad guy. But, the media
    being on their side, there was no room for deep thought nor analysis in the
    soundbytes that come from the pro-RH side. They weren’t really after accuracy.
    They were after the mud-slinging, and character assassination. The way they
    dismantled Senator Sotto’s character is a testament to how dirty some people
    are willing to play just for RH to pass.

     

    On
    the other hand, in a way, these guys knew what they were doing. With the media
    at their beck and call, and knowing Pinoy’s tendency towards demagoguery, all
    they had to do is to incite anger towards the Church. All they had to do is to
    rouse the crowd and make them angry; the truth is always the first casualty in
    a mob rule. And so Celdran being Celdran he went ahead with the Damaso tag
    anyway. It turned out to be a stroke of genius on their end because they
    achieved what they wanted to do, which is to cast the Church in a bad light.
    Who would not admit that people is being used the tag today?

     

    “Damaso”
    was a very successful tag because it reminds people of the friars and
    econmienderos of old that our historians paint in such a bad light: that the Church
    is medieval, out-of-date, irrelevant, lacking in justice, and sexually
    perverted. This is why the “Damaso” tag is still being in use today. Never mind
    the literary nor historical accuracy of the claim.

     

    Fast
    forward to 2013. The Diocese of Bacolod, under Bishop Vicente M. Navarra, D.D.,
    posted a large tarpaulin in front of San Sebastian Cathedral that we now know
    as Team Buhay/Team Patay. This alarmed many of those who are running for
    elections and supporting the RH bill. Many of them cried foul over this tactic.
    They will not admit it, but the poster got them where it hurt the most. These
    politicians have been gloating that there is no such thing as a Catholic Vote,
    but were clearly the first to cry foul over this poster that will surely
    galvanize Catholics into voting against these RH backers.

     

    It
    took a frail, old bishop in the person of Bishop Navarra to issue the battlecry
    of the Catholic Vote via the Team Buhay/Team Patay tarp. And it was a cry heard
    all around the country! Many dioceses have already pledged their support and
    their commitment to follow Bishop Navarra’s example and to snowball this effort
    until we finally have our Catholic Vote.

    Far
    from being simplistic, the Team Buhay/Team Patay is a masterstroke of genius
    comparable to the Damaso tag. Now our campaign against the anti-life forces
    finally has a name, first of all. Second, the Team Buhay/Team Patay tag is easy
    to remember. Third, the said tag encapsulates all of the sentiments of us
    pro-lifers and Catholics: you voted for RH, you pay for it. Your campaign is
    officially dead in the water. If you stand for life and true progress that does
    not and will not compromise our values and morality, you’re part of team buhay.
    Mabuhay ka!

    • crocodiledundee

      sapul mga team patay… pero justs the same meron ding mga dapat patayin na din sa team buhay… but i like what you wrote sir john clap clap clap…

    • frudo

      mag sipag asawa muna kayo mga pari at obispo at saka nyo sabihin samin kung kasalanan ang gumamit ng condom or contraceptives para mag plano ng pamilya, kung ang kaya namin buhayin at 2 hagang 4 lang na anak,  kasalanan ba kung choice nmin na gumamit ng condom or contraceptives,  kasama na ba kami sa team patay  ganun ba, masiapag aswa kayo at pag sampu na anak ninyo ewan ko lang kung di kyo gagamit ng contraceptives, mga pakialamero

    • potchi25

       Padre Damaso was also the bad guy, di lang si Padre Salvi. Damaso raped Doña Pia, hence the birth of Maria Clara. Doña Pia committed suicide because of that.

  • UrHONOR

    IN SHORT, tuwang-tuwa yong bata nang inabutan ng kendi ng mamang pulis.  Nang tinanong kung bakit binigyan ng pulis yong bata ng kendi, ang sabi ng pulis, “Awang-awa na ho kasi ako sa batang yan….iyak-ng-iyak, gabi’t araw at kung ano-anong mga pinaggagawang nakakatawang bagay tulad ng pagpapaskel sa harap ng bahay nila na mararamot daw ang mga kapit-bahay dahil ayaw mang-bigay ng kendi.  Kaya, hayun, pinagtiyagaan ko na at binigyan ko para matahimik!  Nakatawa na ngayon yong bata!”

    • crocodiledundee

      sir bukas iiyak nanaman yung bata baka maubusan yung pulis ng kendi at mag-umpisang mangotong yan or baka ma bad trip yan barilin na lang yung bata hehehe…

      • UrHONOR

        YANG batang yang, talagang iyakin.  Gusto niyang salihan ang lahat ng bagay…pati usapang pang-matanda.  Nalulungkot siya pag hindi siya pinapansin, kaya nakahiligan na nyang magpapapansin.  Alam mo naman ang isip bata, akala nya parati siyang tama, at kapag sinalungat mo, ang lakas ngumawa.  Huwag kang mabahaka, kabayan, dahil hindi mauubusan ng kendi ibibigay yong pulis dahil may sweldong tinatanggap siya.  Paminsan-minsan, nangdedelihensiya yong mamang pulis tulad din ng ginagawang pagndedelihensya ng bata sa kanyang mga magulang araw-araw.  At hinding-hindi mamamaril yong puis dahil wala siyang dalang bari…batutang matulis lamang na gustong-gustong pag-laruan ng bata.  Kaya dapat parating pinapagpapasensyahan na lang ang bata hanggang sa ito ay magkaroon ng sapat na kaisipan.  Ang tunay na nakaka-awa ay yong napapaniwala  ng bata sa lahat ng sinasabi niyang mga nakakatawang kwento at yong mga pinaggagawa nyang mahirap maintindihan at intindihin.  BATA nga naman!

  • http://twitter.com/Toughything French Connection

    I am a church believer but i do not like those whose preach in the church. Tigilan na sana ng mga pari ang sumawsaw sa political issues. Pagtuunan sana nila kung paano baguhin ang masamang imahe ng romano katoliko.

    • frudo

      gusto rin yata nila kasi mainterview at lumabas sa tv,  para makita nila sarili nila kung maganda ba sila ay mali kung gwapo ba sila.

    • http://twitter.com/romza825 Row me oh!

      Kung Katoliko ka bumukod ka nalang sa ibang relihiyon hindi ka kailangan namin.

  • abner

    hahaha gogogo go team buhay mabuhay ang team buhay….anu brillantes??? laban k p???hahaha

  • Joy Lynn

    Papansin lang kayo….  sa totoo lang gigil na gigil kayo kasi kokonti na lang ang mga bata in the next ten tears…wala na mahahasang mga bata ang mga pari….

  • http://www.yahoo.com JOSE RIZAL

    Ikaw saan ka ba sa “buhay” o sa “patay”?
    Yon lang naman ang tanong.

    • frudo

      sa magnanakaw.

  • kilabot

    what’s the fuzz? 
    there’s supposed to be no catholic vote. 
    why worry. comelec should instead concentrate on other more important matters; 
    and avoid wasting people’s money.

  • herecomesrusty

    Hindi daw campaign materials pero may nakasulat na “vote”. Kailangan pa, pinakamalakas ang opinion niya sa lahat dahil sa laki ng political endorsment poster niya.

    Nakakainis ang paring sinungaling at nangangaya dahil hindi ganyan si Jesus. Ganyan siguro iyung paring umipit kay Jesus nuon.

  • kevinmcn

    Not a problem, let the Comelec put a peso value on the banner then deduct that amount from what that party or candidates can claim in peso allotments for their campaigns for the limits allowed.

  • Cano Manuel

    Kung nanghihimasok sila sa kalakalan ng pulitika, pagbayarin sila ng buwis!

  • dikoy321

    Views from Germany:

    Unsolicited advice to Filipinos living in Germany, who are TIRED of SUPPORTING the vicious and ABUSIVE Catholic Church, despite an existing PROHIBITION by the Philippine Constitution (Separation of Church and State), the Catholic Church still INTERFERES in the Philippine Political arena… 

    If your income in Germany is CHARGED the 4% or so CHURCH Tax, go to the nearest “Rathaus” or “Gemeindehaus”, tell them you WANT “OUT OF THE CHURCH”, then SIGN the form that will TAKE your name from church membership!

    Lo and Behold, the NEXT month, your income will REATIN the 4% or so Church Tax !

    Better SPEND the monthly 4% of your income for your own Family or some WORTHWHILE Philippine Projects (Tree-Planting), than DONATE or WASTE it with the Catholic Church !

    You, as a FREEMAN (WOMAN) have the RIGHT and the CHOICE of what to do with your monthly Income !

    DO NOT LET THE CHURCH have a HOLD on even just a SINGLE CENT of your Hard-Earned money !

    Notice that even here in Germany, MORE & MORE Catholics are RUNNING AWAY or LEAVING the Catholic Church !

    Keep your money under your OWN Control, Definitely NOT the Catholic Church !

    Forward Philippines !!!

    • rouelcalzita

      My Dear Friend…there is no religion in this world w/c is free from any sort of scandals.Regardless, of any religion/sect you belong.Religion is an organized collection of belief systems, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity too spiritually and, sometimes, to moral values.

    • Touch_Me_, Nuts!

      WRONG ADVICE.  Obviously you belong to a circle of non-churchgoers. Many Germans, as you said, leave the church for their money. Not true. As elsewhere, many leave the church because they want the church to change to their side. Problem is, their side is likewise uncertain as it is sporadic. Those who leave the church their problem in fact is that the church hadn’t changed, and not because of anything else, including money. “Where you’re money is, there’s your heart is also,” says the Good Book. That’s the belief of those who are in and of the world, and that includes you apparently. But such a minute creation cannot preach to the church which is composed of righteous people. In fact it appears that you’re now standing on a quicksand.

  • White24

    TEAM PATAY,,, hahahhhah Buti nga…. HUWAG IBOTO ANG TEAM PATAY….

  • dikoy321

    Views from Germany:

    CASH or LACK OF IT, hurts the Church the MOST !

    The church must pay MILLIONS OF US DOLLARS for the RAPE ABUSES Paedophile priests/bishops did upon our INNOCENT children !

    The church OWN vast tracks of Land mostly STOLEN from the ignorant farmers of centuries past !

    The Church DOES NOT PAY Taxes to the gov’t, but WANTS to EXERCISE its rights, UNFAIRLY towards taxpayers !

    NO MORE DONATIONS and ALMS to the Church !

    • rouelcalzita

      Are you belonging to a human living higher than hill? Which no religion.
      Let you count by your 20 fingers, if you can find Churches w/c used to pay taxes.
      What religion that has no pedophile of its leader?
      What church w/c don’t accept donations?
      What church that has no tracks of land?
      My dear friend, then post here again if you could find a church that I quoted above.

      • noyab

         EVEN FELIX MANALO AND ELY SORIANO WAS ACCUSSED OF RAPE…

      • frudo

        so what, di nman sila ang topic, ang topic ay yung pakikialam, pagbabanta, pageendorso ng mga obispo sa mga pulitiko nila,  nadadamay lang ang relihiyon dahli sa mga ibang obispo na yan.

    • Touch_Me_, Nuts!

      WRONG CONCLUSION.  Donations to the church are from the heart of the willing. No one can legislate to stop giving to the church. Vent your anger against the church elsewhere,  it might do you some good. Like many, galit sa simbahan at sacerdotes, lilipas din yan.

  • mawalanggalangpo

    Bakit Patay? Violent and negative. Politically incorrect. It labels and stereotypes people. If it refers to those who favor family planning it may show that the religious are prejudice. This kind of language and practise does not bespeak well of the Catholic Church. Mananalo itong diocese sa Comelec o Supreme Court, matatalo naman and buong Simbahan sa mata ng tao o sambayanan nagiisip? Galangin ang simbahan, huwag po sanan natin sabitan ng hindi magandang mga salita.

  • KpTUL

    (1) The church has the right to express their opinion.
    (2) The church also should abide by the rules pertaining to the size of the election material.
    (3) Separation of state and church is a non issue: This is funny especially if this comes from the church LOL

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

    “Team Patay/Team Buhay” Sari sari kayo! KUNG GINAGAWA NYO NA KAYANG “VOTING CENTER” YANG LOOB NG SIMBAHAN!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GLLLMBSX5AMH3KQSHIIRQQYRGM milo go

    You know we can come up with our own “Patay List” as a result of the catholic bishops policy. Include on the list the children who have died due malnutrition and 500,000 children whose lives were terminated due the absence of RH.

  • doublecross

    magkano ba lagay sa bishop na yan?

  • Garote

    Brilliantes doesn’t act like his name suggests: “brilliant.” There is nothing illegal in the Team Patay/Buhay tarpulin. Where did he get the idea it’s illegal? Second, why would Section 261 apply to the church? Is putting up the tarpulin an act of coercion or intimidation? If influencing members or parishioners to vote for a certain candidate is illegal, why does not Brilliantes also stop Iglesia de Kristo, Jesus is Lord, Velarde, Benevolent, Ecleo, etc. also from inviting and indorsing candidates? Brilliantes you’re showing your true color.

  • jga94

    The Church (in particular the Diocese of Bacolod) may have won legally (at least this round) BUT they have lost a lot of their faithful—nakakaturn off …for lack of a better word…they are supposed to be spiritual leaders….they are supposed to be beyond reproach…pero ito parang one’s reasoning says that what they are doing is wrong…it’s just wrong to meddle in affairs that are so wordly….

    • UrHONOR

      Can’t be stated BETTER than that!

  • speaksoftlylove

    Think about this question long and hard enough thus:

    Why is PNoy and his YellowVultures so concerned about this “Team Patay” stuff if they honestly believed on their own survey that majority of the people support the RH Law and that there is no Catholic vote?

    The answer is as clear as can be and no need for further explanation and that is – PNoy and his YellowVultures are confused. Their own action betrays the TRUTH that they themselves honestly believe that majority of the people do not support the RH Law, contrary to their manufactured surveys, no doubt about it.

    • ARIKUTIK

      Majority are greedy and RH law is born out of greed. That’s a fact beyond reasonable doubt. But then conscience is greater when it bites.

  • AntiAko

    SUPREME COURT umurong ang bayag sa mga PARI. Wahahahaha… 

  • noyab

    MABUHAY ANG MGA PARI,,, DEATH TO ALL ANTI CHRIST LIKE THE COMELEC….

  • noyab

    ANG LAKI NG TAKOT NG GOVERNMENT SA IGLESIA NI MANALO KAYA ANG MGA KABULUKAN NG INC AY DI LUMALABAS….ILAN NA BA ANG MGA PINATAY NILA DAHIL LANG SA DEBATE……DI NA MABILANG…….TIGANAN NINYO ANG “THE CULT OF FELIX MANALO: BY ROSS TIPPON, IBINASURA NG KORTE KAYA DI NALAMAN NG MGA PILIPINO ANG SIKRETO NI FELIX MANALO….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DEPCCS5H4JA7WLAAPMZA2MLSQM jenna

    It’s free publicity. they should thank the church.

  • UrHONOR

    Well, that’s all right kabayan,
    That’s all right with us.
    That’s all right kabayan, just anyway they wanna do
    Well that’s all right, that’s all right
    Well that’s all right kabayan….give them more rope to hang themselves with.                                                   

    oOo

    Sabi nga ni Mang Kepweng, “Those  whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make them make fools of themselves by having them play with tarps like babes in toyland.                                     
                 

    oOo

    Ako naman….. manggagaya din…magpapaskel ako ng maliit na karatola sa harap ng bahay ng kapit-bahay ko at ililista ko doon ang lahat ng mga naghihingalo at mamamatay ng mga simbahan tulad ng sumusunod:

    1) kaTOLik,
    2) kaTOLik,
    3) kaTOLik,  
    4) kaTOlik, at
    5) kaTOLik.

    Gusto ko na din kasing ma-destroy na ng mga “gods”, kasi binababoy lang ng mga TNL na nagpapanggap na mga kinatawan kuno sila ng isang god pero may tatlong ulo ng tao (3 persons in 1 god)….. dahil sa halip na itaguyod ang mga tinuturo nilang ka-echosan, ang pinakikita nilang halimbawa ay nakakaduwal at nakakadiri, tulad ng: pagsasamantala sa mga batang lalake; pagsasamantala sa kahinaan ng mga babaeng napapaniwala at na-aakit nila; pangungupit sa basket; pagnanakaw sa alkansya ng simbahan; pagsisinungaling; pakikisawsaw sa sawsawan ng may sawsawan, samantalang yong sawsawan nila ay di na makita sa kapal ng nakapatong na amag; nagpapalabas ng diyos nila tapos kinukulong sa isang sisidlan…tapos sasabayan ng paglayas paputang mahjongan; atmpb na maririndi ka lamang kapag pinakinggan mo pa. Kaya, hindi ko na tutuloy..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SIMBAHAN NG BACOLOD SUNUGIN NAYAN PURO DEMONYO ANG NASA LOOB NIYAN BUHUSAN NG GASULINA SALOT YAN MGA YAN GUS2 MAG PARAMI NG BATANG HUBO DAMASO! CBCP BISHOPS RADICAL MAPIA SALOT!

  • AllaMo

    LMAO. Tarp war? More like, tempest in a demitasse cup. These men in drag believe they have no choice, knowing they have only begun to lose the “faithful”, thanks to their dogma.

  • http://www.pulisnapogi.blogspot.com/ Pulis Na Pogi

    nasaan na kaya ang mga magagaling na posters dito na sina IVIDEO, ANGIE1875, PATRICKINCA, MAGSASAKASANAYON, BOYONG123, MAD_AS_HAMLET, AUGUSTO, SKED482, ADIKTOS, ANTI AKO, MARK LUPATON at JANE TAN?

    o, ano ngayon masasabi nyo?  magbasa kasi kayo at mag aral ng mabuti para in the end, hindi kayo magmukhang tan nga!

    b0b0 talaga si brillantes!

  • dukaponte

    Mas makakabuti sa atin kung payagan ang mga bishops mag campaign sa gusto nila. Pero pag natalo sila, dapat sila mag resign dahil palpak sila. Hindi pwede na nandiyan pa rin sila kahit na nanalo ang mga candidates na hindi nila gusto. Hindi pwede na talo manalo , sila pa rin. Magresign sila kaagad pag nanalo iyong team patay.

  • http://twitter.com/romza825 Row me oh!

    Kayong mga pulitiko sa Team Buhay magpagawa na kayo ng mga printed materials para makatulong sa inyong pagpapanalo… suggestion lang. 

  • $14334231

    humans, according to science, were descendants from apes…..and monkeys are primates which are also a cousin of apes…so, the bishops, from sciences’ point of view, are probably descendants of the apes’ cousins, the monkeys….so the old saying was instilled in the minds of the would-be priests while they were in the seminary….”monkey see, monkey do”…so, they see what the politicians does, and they follow suit….thus the streamer….maybe i will hang an effigy in my property that is clothed like a bishop….let’s see what happen….my monsignor probably will do a tantrum, but hey, i am just following bishop navarra (except mine is an effigy, not a tarpaulin)….hehehe……

    • UrHONOR

      IF you can double that effigy, I’d to ask for one and do the same in front of my neighbor’s house. You see I’m also a monkey and, as you mentioned, monkey see, monkey do :)  I also doo bee doo bee doo.

  • zeroko

    So be it. Spread the news, let’s fight the Oligarch governmnt. Dapat nga burahin lahat ng trapo sa gobyerno. Huag sila iboto,just like in Q.C. the sitting officials is like a Mafia, they just do what they want with impunity. Open facebook on Q.C. City council involve in QUEZON
    CITY – Councilors of Quezon City QC Exposé *PAYROLL FRAUD IN).

  • DominadorMedina

     Dominador
    Medina what if other institutions and private persons (secret friends,
    supporters of candidates) who have not filed certificates of candidacy
    put up their own tarpaulins in their private properties facing the
    street (public)? then politicians
    can put up propaganda materials of any size within any private
    property, the excuse being that the owners of the private properties are
    the ones responsible for said advertisement.we have seen the abuse in the PARTY-LIST system – almost anybody, including politicians have been creating party-lists.we have to be careful in this matter of propaganda materials too – or else we might be creating another monster.about an hour ago · Like• Nolette Evangelista corek ka dian Father ….about an hour ago · Like• Dominador
    Medina nolette, minsan kasi hindi comprehensive ang tingin natin. para
    tayo doctor na nagrereseta ng gamot na tama magaling para sa rayuma,
    pero may fatal side effect naman sa puso ng particular patient. kelangan
    malawak ang pananaw natin, hindi makitid na kapiraso lang truth ang
    ating pinapansin.14 minutes ago · Like• Nolette Evangelista DAPAT MACRO HINDI MICRO12 minutes ago · Like• Dominador
    Medina para yang larong chess – ang isa mong move dapat mong planuhin
    bago mo gawin, dahil baka ang move mong yon ay nagbubukas ng moves na
    kalaban na lugi ka, talo ka. yung gusto mo ma achieve ay lalo hindi
    makuha – NAISAHAN KA NG KALABAN, KASI NAG MOVE KA NG DI PINALANO ANG
    CONSEQUENCE. the important thing is not winning or losing a battle. the
    important thing is winning the war.9 minutes ago · Edited · Like• Nolette Evangelista THAT IS RIGHT — LOOSING THE BATTLE TO WIN THE WAR8 minutes ago · Like• Dominador Medina perfect, nolette. macro yes, hindi micro.6 minutes ago · Like

  • gikiness

    Paki distribute na yang mga FRIAR lands na yan ng mga pari at ibigay sa mga mahihirap.  At ang mga tuition fees sa mga private catholic schools, pakibabaan ng maafford ng mga magulang na nagpapaaral sa mga anak nila.

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