Church on Celdran: Don’t look at us

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NO THEATRICAL SCENE Tour guide Carlos Celdran is put behind bars in this file photo taken in 2010 when he was arrested for his “Damaso” act. INQUIRER PHOTO

The Archdiocese of Manila on Wednesday sought to distance itself from a potential backlash over the court conviction of artist Carlos Celdran by pointing out that the Church did not pursue charges against the popular tour guide for disrupting services at the Manila Cathedral in 2010.

It was the government, through the public prosecutor, that charged Celdran before the courts for “offending religious feelings,” a crime under the Revised Penal Code, said Peachy Yamsuan, communications chief of the Archdiocese of Manila.

The archdiocese did not pursue the case on the instructions of the then Manila Archbishop Gaudencio Cardinal Rosales, she said.

“The Archdiocese of Manila did not pursue the case against Mr. Carlos Celdran for violation of Article 133 of the Revised Penal Code. While deeply disturbed by the incident, (Cardinal Rosales) gave instructions for the Archdiocese to no longer pursue the case,” Yamsuan said in a statement.

The archdiocese issued the statement after President Aquino on Tuesday urged the Catholic Church to “forgive” Celdran.

“Cardinal Rosales has long forgiven Mr. Celdran….The criminal case against Mr. Celdran was pursued by the State represented by the public prosecutor and a lay private prosecutor,” Yamsuan said.

A Manila court earlier this week found Celdran guilty of violating Article 133 of the penal code, which punishes those who “in a place devoted to religious worship or during the celebration of any religious ceremony shall perform acts notoriously offensive to the feelings of the faithful.”

The conviction carries a sentence of imprisonment of at least two months and 21 days up to a maximum of one year, one month, and 11 days.

Yamsuan pointed out that the prosecution presented four witnesses, “none of whom were from the Archdiocese of Manila.”

She said three of the witnesses were from the Episcopal Commission on Biblical Apostolate of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines, the organizer of the ecumenical event at the cathedral that Celdran disrupted, while the fourth witness was a churchgoer.

Yamsuan said that how the case proceeds on appeal would not be up to the Archdiocese of Manila or the Church.

Monsignor Nestor Cerbo, rector of the Manila Cathedral, said that while the Church has forgiven Celdran, the latter should still do “penance.”

“When we go to confession, we are forgiven by God. There is penance, there’s a prayer to God but we also have to compensate for the damage done,” Cerbo told Church-run Radio Veritas.

Catholic Church teaching holds that while sins are forgiven when a Catholic goes to confession, it does not necessarily remove all the “temporal punishment” for one’s transgressions, he said.

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  • bogli_anakdami

    “offending religious feelings” law… watdapak is dat about?

    it’s worst than drawing muhammed’s cartoon… blasphemy!!! kill all infidels….

    nay naku, flips puro kayo mga gung gongs…

    • joshua kings

      eh ikaw, ano ka? gunggong ka din, di ba?

      • ARIKUTIK

        Huwag kayo mag away, eto panoorin nyo > Kung yong mismong mga nasa simbahan ay hindi binugbog si Celdran, eh bakit ngayon siya ay ikukulong ng gobyerno ? Wala bang Balls yong mga nasa simbahan para tadyakan si Celdran kung “offensive” ang ginawa nya ? Kung ang isang bisita ay nambastos sa loob ng may bahay ay tiyak tadyak at batok ang aabutin niya. Bakit walang kahit isa man lang na tumadyak kay Celdran sa oras na yon ? Ibig sabihin ay ang mismong mga naroroon ay umayon  na hindi dapat parusahan si Celdran….. Answer at your own risk !

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

        Arikutik, wala ka bang utak? Hindi naman gungong na kagaya mo yung mga nasa simbahang yun. Malamang humihingi sila ng tawad sa mga kasalanan nila tapos gusto mo pag may nanggulo dun eh mambugbog sila eh d nadagdaggan nanaman kasalanan nila.

        Bakit ba naman kasi ipinapanganak pa mga taong kagaya mo? Common sense na nga lang sana meron ka hindi ka pa nabiyayaan… tsktsk kawawang nilalang

    • lucidlynx

      In fact, the United Nations has a resolution that blasphemy is part of free speech. Only theocratic governments would consider that a crime and with this law, the Philippines has become partly theocratic.

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

        Kapatid mukhang hindi mo alam ang sinasabi mo, ang katunayan, ang UN ay nagadopt ng resolution combating defamation of religion. Saang source ba yang ginagamit mo kapatid? Baka naman libro pang ipinublish noong panahon ni Magellan yan ah? Sa susunod bago ka magcomment siguraduhin mo muna okay para hindi pahiya ng isang kilo…

      • ThudOthwacker

        UN also have the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights: Article 19 & 20. That freedom of expression is not infinite. 

    • ThudOthwacker

      Who said RPC Article 133 is about blasphemy? It’s a crime against religious worship. Research first before you react and keep your inanity to yourself.

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    Let us say what needs to be said. President Aquino was playing to the younger crowd of ages 18 to 35 when he asked the Catholic Church to forgive Celdran. The vote-rich demographic of 18 to 35 are overwhelmingly supportive of the RH bill, less likely to obey the teachings of the Catholic Church unquestioningly and are active online. By pandering to the younger voters, President Aquino hopes to win more support for his Team Pinoy in the May elections. While the Catholic Church is hardly blameless for what it has done to our country for the last 500 years, Celdran’s prosecution and subsequent conviction are indisputably legal processes sanctioned by the state. It does appear that the Pharisees of the Catholic Church have successfully shifted the blame on PNoy the Pontius Pilate. How President Aquino chooses to wash his hands will be interesting to see. Had Jesus been around to witness all this, he would have rendered unto Caesar what is Caesar’s.

    • bakitkailangan

       Bakit laging si PENOY ang may kasalanan? Sana naman tingnan niyo rin si BALOT, pati ba naman kasalanan ng kapitbahay mo ibibintang mo pa rin kay Penoy…Tao nga naman…may masabi lang.

      • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

        Why Penoy? Because God says so.

    • lucidlynx

      No that doesn’t need to be said because you are just inventing stuff.

      • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

        Another church-hater.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/276L22SZM5ZUQGV24IL4ZEF6UA Edward

      haluccination nyo yan..galing nyo nmn and i quote The vote-rich demographic of 18 to 35 are overwhelmingly supportive of the RH bill..hahaha…survey lng nmn na dinoktor..have u heard polldaddy survey, false asia, sws survey? bka isa ka roon?

      • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

        Uy, hindi niya matanggap na gullible and impressionable siya.

  • us_sixtycents

    Why does people act surprise and offended when others treat them the way they want to be treated? If there’s no disturbance/s, there won’t be any complaint/s or case/s in Court.

    He is going to jail and that’s all I need to know.

    • bogli_anakdami

      surprising and offensive when murderers and magnanakaws caught red handed, and walk away free…

  • superpilipinas

    He-he-he. Inquirer is just wanting to get the church back to the controversy.

    It had already published this news yesterday but they want to rehash over and over.

    Sorry to Inquirer, but your tabloid style is very obvious. No impact to the church.

    He-he-he, becoming so predictable. Another article of the same issue tomorrow?

  • DGuardian

    Hindi tama ang ginawa ni Carlos Celdran na panggugulo sa idinadaos na Misa. Sagrado ang Holy Mass dahil ito ang buong paggunita sa pagaalay ng Panginoong Hesus ng Kanyang Buhay para sagipin ang mga kaluluwa ng buong katauhan. Puwede naman si Celdran na ipahayag ang saloobin niya sa labas ng Manila Cathedral, pero bakit pinili pa niyang pumasok at doon magsisigaw ng “Damaso”sa loob.  Dati ba siyang Katoliko na naging born-again Christian kung kaya’t ganoon siya walang pagpapahalaga at paggalang sa Misa, sa Simbahan na isang House of God at sa mga pari? .Pro -RH bill din ako, pero hindi ako sangayon sa ginawa ni Celdran na paglapastangan sa Holy Mass, sa Manila Cathedral at sa pari na nagce-celebrate ng Misa at siyang kumakatawan sa Panginoong Hesus.

    Naniniwala ako na hindi kaya ng gobyerno ng Pilipinas na dahil sa sobrang kurapsyon ng halos lahat ng mga opiyales ay kinukulang lalo ang resources para sa pagtulong at  pagbibigay ng mga benepisyo, trabaho, kinakailangang infrastructure, at iba pang pangangailangan ng mga tao. Napakaraming mga milyon ang bilang ng ating mga kahabag-habag na mahihirap at dahil sa kawalan at kakulangan sa tamang values formation, edukasyon, pananalapi at subhuman conditions na pinagdudusahan nila ay lumalaking mga walang turo at nagiging mga magnanakaw at mga kriminal. Ang mga mahihirap ang siyang dumadami sa Pilipinas dahil isa o dalawa lamang ang karaniwang bilang ng anak ng mga mayayaman. Pararamihin pa ba natin ang mga potential criminals na magpapagulo at maghahasik ng lagim sa ating bansa? Dapat ay asikasuhn ng gobyerno at ng Simbahang Katoliko, Relihiyong Islam at iba’t ibang mga sekta na matulungan ang spiritual, social at physical welfare ng mga mahihirap nating mga kababayan sa buong kapuluan, bago nila hangaring dumami pa tayo sa ating kasalukuyang bilang. Ang gobyerno ay dapat tulungan ang ating mga mahihirap.

    Isa pa, walang buhay ng bata na kikitilin ang RH bill. Ang Anti-Abortion Law ay nangunguna pa rin. Ang pag-gamit ng contraceptives ay to prevent conception kaya walang fertilization na magta-take place  at walang mangyayaring abortion. Sana ay maunawaan ito ng mga pari at sana ay gumawa sila  ng paraan para mailapit ang kabutihan, ang Panginoong Hesus, at ang Sampung Utos ng Diyos sa mga colonies ng informal settlers at sa lahat ng iba pang mahihirap sa buong Pilipinas. Isa itong challenge sa Catholic Church. Mag-misyonaryo kayo at mag-convert ng hindi nakakikilala sa Diyos at sa Kanyang Sampung Utos.

    • green_archer09

      Kapatid, hindi naman sa loob ng misa nangyari ito…sa isang ecumenical prayer service.Pansinin mo ang litrato nang mangyari iyon.  Nakaupo si Cardinal Rosales (hindi siya nakasuot pangmisa).

      Tama ka….malaking ang korupsyon sa lahat ng antas ng lipunan. Hindi nlamang sa gobyerno, maging sa ibang institusyon ng lipunan (paaralan, pamilya, lugar ng pinagtatrabahuhan, atbp).

      Sa huling punto mo…marahil mas magandang pagnilayan ng Kristiyano (Katoliko man o hindi) ang Batas ng Pag-ibig at ang Dakilang Pagpapala (Beatitudes) ni Hesus imbes na Sampus Utos. Salamat.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/276L22SZM5ZUQGV24IL4ZEF6UA Edward

        mali ka nmn dre…nagmamarunong ka ano..hindi ka kasi Katoliko kya d nyo alam a=kung ano ang pinagsasabi nyo..pati pa nmn yan sasabihin nyo hindi sa loob ng misa..at kung anu ano pang ek ek..ano tingin nyo sa mga prosecutor at sa judge sa korte d alam yan?

      • DGuardian

        Humihingi ako ng paumanhin sa aking pagkakamali. Inisip kong isang Misa na idinadaos ang pinasok ni Carlos Celdran. Ganoon pa man, sana ay igalang ang mga pari bilang kinatawan ng Panginoong Hesus. Totoong mayroon sa kanila ang lumilihis sa landas na dapat tugpain ng isang alagad ng Diyos, pero dapat na igalang ang kanilang pagiging pari at hindi ang kanilang pagkatao.

        Totoo, ang Golden Rule at ang Beatitudes ay dapat ding matutuhan at sundin ng lahat ng tao para sa ikatatahimik mg mundo. My apologies uli. Thank you.

  • lucidlynx

    That’s hogwash! The government can’t pursue the case unless there was a complaint or charges filed. If the complaint or charges were withdrawn, there can’t be any case unless the police or some people took it upon themselves to pursue the case. There are murder cases where no charges are filed because the family of the victim settled with the perpetrators and this happens all the time.

    Anyway, I take the word of the church and if they say they didn’t pursue the case so be it. Celdran can use this in his appeal.

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

      Hahaha siguro hindi ka nakapagcollege no? haha kasi simpling batas na lng hindi mo pa alam eh. Para sa kaalaman ng hangal na katulad mo, pwede pong magsampa ng reklamo ang estado laban sa kahit na sino basta may basehan sa batas. Sorry nalang itong bastos na si Celdran kasi napagtripan siya ng estato… haha.. Next time aral ka din para hindi ka mapahiya sa sarili mo.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/276L22SZM5ZUQGV24IL4ZEF6UA Edward

        tama ka dre…

        tulad ng kasong murder sa iisang angkan o pamilya..dhil kamag anak  rin ang nakapatay hindi na nag pursue i file ang kasong murder sa suspect…ibig bang sabihin lusot na siya? o abswelto na siya sa kasong pagpatay? HINDI po..ang kaso ay tuloy pa rin…at ito’y maging…People of the Philippines versus Lucidlynx..hahaha…kasi ito’y hindi kaso laban sa taong pinatay kundi ito’y naging kaso na laban sa Estado…

  • AlexanderAmproz

    Its Philippines carnival time as usual !

    Meanwhile its for Danding, Bongbong, Imelda, JPE, Palparan, Binay, Ecleo,
    Reyes Brothers, Erap, families, Trapos, Senate and Congress,

    Fiesta time all the way to the Bank vault and $ accounts for junket at the Circus….

    Only da Philippines

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MAWUWHN2MPQVI72246ZETNCQIY joseph

    If Pnoy truly believes this  situation to be unjust, he has a remedy. As the Chief executive he need only pardon Celdran, and move to repeal law. Article 133 is clearly an unconstitutional and unnecessary state endorsement of religion. It imparts too much power to an unelected and unrepresentative set of organizations controlled by a highly and powerful selective few. In my view, it protects an already privileged and protect class from a nearly nonexistent criminal activity.

    Why is it nonexistent? Because the community at large has no reason to protest or disrupt peaceful practice of spiritual activity.

    So in fact this law seems to exist merely to shield a church when itself engages in offensive political or personal activity. In this case the church take an over reaching political stand on otherwise innocuous reproductive health legislation. It has the right to do so, but it must also be equally prepared to bear the repercussions of such a stand. It should do so with equal protection of the law, not privileged protection.

    Celdran was indeed disruptive, but he should be punished as he would have been had he protested any organization or person. It was not hate speech, It was principled speech. Neither was it a pattern aimed at undermining the church per se. It was outrage against an over reaching group monomaniacally bent on imposing and distorted and reactionary brand/interpretation of religious belief. It is a protest against a conservative dogma, that is arguable at best and potentially damaging to the people the church have resolved to protect(read: hypocrisy).

    If the church chooses to use it’s pulpits as a forum for polarizing and arguable political agendas, it should expect the debate to arrive at its doorstep. It cannot then claim “sanctuary!”, at the first sign of trouble and challenge.

    The Church founders knew this. Jesus and his apostles were all outspoken and they all rendered onto ceasar what was ceasar’s.

    I find Article 133 highly offensive on its face. I do not want to live in a theocracy or a tyrant religious state. Our often tyrant  secular state is bad enough. It would be much appreciated if the churches would return to giving balm, aid, and voice to the needy, rather than nagging us  all like an overbearing know it all reactionary nanny.  I don’t ever recall reading how Jesus and his disciples led by ensuring the Roman senate pass laws ensuring people remain ignorant of science and protecting their specific kind of tax free business and speech.

    Quite the opposite, they were out there opening people’s minds to the notion that all people, even the meek have value, and all life has value through the realization and application of personal skills/endeavor for the betterment of mankind. Love of fellow men is the greatest good. Rather than silencing critics, perhaps the church be strong and self confident (not arrogant and oppressive). Get back to a positive and encouraging mission.of doing good, by encouraging the good (however  it may take form).

  • lolobabes

    Pontius Pliate mode?!?!?! But who filed this stupid case in the first place? I thought so, ahihihi

    • Che Court

      the church but the church forgiven him… wala bang karapatan ang simbahan na maghabla?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5EV2FNQUSNLESIPZKVIR43JSCI Juan Dela cruz

         Then ihabla mo na rin ang mga pari at obispong tumanggap na galing sa corruption at dapat makulong ang mga nagkasalang walang hiyang paring yan!

      • 33Sambuang2

        tama kasi maraming manyak at pedophile na pari. nauubos na ang kita ng simbahan sa pambayad sa mga namolestya nilang hinayupak. dito nga sa us, pati cardinal tinatago ang krimen ng mga hayup na pari

  • Paulstronghold

    Liar..liar…liar

    • Che Court

      yan kasi we only like to hear the things that we like… hahaha

  • Jane Tan

    “Catholic Church teaching holds that while sins are forgiven when a Catholic goes to confession, it does not necessarily remove all the “temporal punishment” for one’s transgressions, he said.”

    But voting against the RH Bill apparently removes all of one’s transgressions, assures them of entering Heaven, and gets them invited to lunch.

    • txtman

      JUST WAIT AND SEE

      YOU HAVE NOT YET FELT AND SEE

      THE FULL IMPACT OF THAT RH LAW
      .
      .
      ALL I CAN SAY IS

      LATTER ON

      BLAME YOURSELF

      IM NOT GOING TO SAY

      WHAT IT IS

      IT IS FOR YOU TO FEEL THE PAIN

      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      PITIFUL

      • Jane Tan

        moar caps lock.

        moar threats without basis.

        moar threats without proof.

        moar words without action.

      • txtman

        HERE DOGIE-DOGIE

        KANINONG ASO KA BA?

        KAY QUIROS?

        NO WONDER

        PITIFUL

      • AlexanderAmproz

        What impact of RH bill ?

        So many countries have it since 40 Years,

        the impact, peoples can chose how many children’s they want.

        Women and families are very happy with that !

        Do a better life is evil ?

        Philippines society is on of the world mot suffering, to enjoy it is insane !

      • ThudOthwacker

        “So many countries have it since 40 Years,” ~AlexanderAmprozYes so many. Look what happened to Japan and other advance industrial nations. Not enough workforce to fill the vacant jobs left by retirees. And in China have a different problem. The one child policy produced spoiled, selfish and bratty children.

        World bank says having a large young population is an advantage(economically)

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

        Oo isa na sa mga may ganitong batas ang US. Pero sila nagising na at marami nang gustong i-abolish ito kasi ung mga gumagawa lng ng contraceptives ang nakikinabang hindi naman ang mga mamamayan. Pero ang mga tangang Pilipino na kagaya mo ayun kahuhulog palang sa patibong. Kaya nakakaawa talaga ang pinas hindi lang sa technology kolelat pati narin sa information. Haha…

        Sabagay wala naman tayong aasahan kasi Abnoy yung nakaupo hehe…

      • 33Sambuang2

        baka ikaw ang abnoy kasi naniniwala ka sa mga pedophile at manyak na pari. paayos mo tenga mo at mata para matauhan kang hinayupak ka

      • txtman

        DID YOU KNOW?

        THAT MOST PEDOPHILES & MANYAKS

        ARE PEOPLE LIKE YOU?

        IT TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE ANO?

        AHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHI!
        .
        .

        OH, NATAUHAN KA NA BA?

        HINDI PA?

        IUNTOG MO NA LANG ULO MO SA BATO

        PITIFUL

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

        Haha pikon agad, Abnoy ikaw ba yan? haha…

        Sorry, pero mas maniniwala ako sa mga pari kesa sa mga politiko hehe… At tska alam mo yung info na nasa taas tungkol sa US totoo yun di katulad mo nabubuhay sa kalokohan hahaha…

      • Jane Tan

        I’d prefer we have a period of labor shortage than 2 decades of job shortage.

      • txtman

        BAKA IBIG MONG SABIHIN

        DECADES OF CORRUPTIONS

        TANGA!

        PITIFUL

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

        oo naman ako din… pero kasi naman ang mga tao ang tamad hindi marunong magtiyagang maghanap ng ikabubuhay…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

      well, RH bill parma companies lang makikinabang wag kang bulag

      • Jane Tan

        Kaysa ipamigay ni Enrile sa mga supporter niya? Thanks. But, I’d rather see my taxes go into helping women rather than paying for Lacson’s campaign to re-elect Lacson.

    • 33Sambuang2

      ipokrito kayong mga obispo

  • Che Court

     Matthew 5:26 I tell you the truth, you will not get out of JAIL until you have paid the last penny.

  • txtman

    >>>>>>>>> HYPOCRISY OF MEDIA <<<<<<<<<<<<<

    THEY ALWAYS SAY FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION

    AND YET

    THE MEDIA BLOCK

    THE OPINIONS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE AGAINST THEIRS

    IN THEIR OWN WEBSITE
    .
    .
     PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH

    .
    .
    .

    LAUGHABLE

    ..

    A GOOD EXAMPLE IS THE OPINION SECTION OF THE INQUIRER
    .
    .
     ANYBODY

    WHO WILL SAY AGAINST THE OPINIONS OF SAY, DE QUIROS, DAVID, ETC.

    THEY WILL BLOCK YOU

    KAYA HAYAN, KUNWARI KADAMIHAN PANIG SA KANILA

    WHILE IN FACT THEY HAVE THESE LAPDOG FOLLOWERS

    IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL FREEDOM OF SPEECH?

    YOU DON'T WANT OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINION

    THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM YOURS?
    .
    .

     THAT IS WHAT YOU CALL HYPOCRISY!

    AGAIN

    HYPOCRISY TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL

    AND THEY HAVE THE GREATEST EGO EVER

    BELIEVING THAT WHATEVER THEY SAY IS THE ULTIMATE TRUTH

    A DELUSION OF GRANDEUR

    .

    PITIFUL HYPOCRITE

    • Jane Tan

      moar caps lock.

      moar threats without basis.

      moar threats without proof.

      moar words without action.

      • txtman

        NO BASIS?

        NO PROOF?

        ASKED YOUR HYPOCRITE MEDIA

        PITIFUL

      • Jane Tan

        quoted from people they interview, no need to ask them :) just need to know how to read

    • ARIKUTIK

      Does any man say anything on which he himself don’t believe ? Only a lier or swindler will do such a thing but most of all the propagandist does it best. PDI is a news splasher not propagandist…….. good day ….. byeeeeeeee >>>>>>>>> wink …

      • txtman

        REALLY?

        NEWSPLASHER?

        NOT A PROPAGANDISTS?

        ONLY A MORON WILL BELIEVED THAT

        I HOPE YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THEM

        BUT I DOUBT

        AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

        PITIFUL

  • txtman

    THIS ISSUE KABADINGAN NA ISSUE

    HAD COVERED MORE MEDIA MILAGE

    THAN THE FOI BILL
    .
    .
    AND THEY EVEN CONCLUDE THAT THE TWITTER IS NOW THE
           PULSE OF THE PEOLE

    WHAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTT?

    ILAN BA ANG MAY ACTIVE TWITTER ACCOUNTS?

    PROBABLY MILLIONS HAVE ACCOUNTS BUT MOST OF THESE ARE JUST
            FOLLOWERS

    JUST A FEW HUNDRENDS ARE ACTIVE

    AND YET TWITTER NA DAW TAYO MANINIWALA?

    HUHHHH?

    .
    .
     SIMPLE LANG NAMAN ANG ISSUE EH

    HE VIOLATED THE LAW

    HE SHOULD SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES

    MASKI ANO PA MAN

    ANG GAWIN NG INQUIRER

    MOST OF THE FILIPINO PEOPLE

    WILL SIDE WITH THE DECISION OF THE COURT

    PITIFUL

    • Jane Tan

      We don’t care whether he gets jail-time or not.

      We care that, if it had been done in a Muslim mosque or in some other religion’s place of worship, there wouldn’t be as much attention or punishment.

      • botets

        Ano sa mosque? Paki try nga po ng malaman mo ang punishment mo, try mo sa basilan lalo.. CBCP maybe a hypocrite organization and as its composed of mere human beings they may err, pero bat naman papasok habang may misa si Celdran, di lang naman mga obispo o pari ang nasa loob ng simbahan that time , most likely me mga bata. Pwede naman sa labas ng simbahan o sa kalye.

      • Jane Tan

        Google “G.R. No. 135306. January 28, 2003″

        FYI, I agree that Celdran should be imprisoned. But, shouldn’t this be applied to all offenders, and not just the ones that offend the CBCP?

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

        Talaga? malamang pagdun niya ginawa yun hindi na siya makalabas kasi ayaw ng mga Kapatid nating Muslim ang pambabastos sa kanilang paniniwala. Tama naman kasi. Kung ayaw mong mabastos wag kang mambabastos. Kung gusto sana niyang magpapansin sana sa labas na lang ng simbahan siya ng hunger strike.

      • Jane Tan

        Google “G.R. No. 135306. January 28, 2003″

        Hinde nga sila pumayag na binastos sila, hinde naman agree ang mga courts natin haha.

        FYI, I agree that Celdran should be imprisoned. But, shouldn’t this be applied to all offenders, and not just the ones that offend the CBCP?

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

        Tanungin kita, kasalanan ba naman ng mga katoliko kung si celdran lang ang nakulong? Eh sisihin mo yung mga public prosecutors hindi nila kinakasuhan yung iba. Hirap kasi sa inyo nakikita nyo kapwa nyo pero baka kayo may problema… ikaw baka may problem ka sa bahay okay lang ishare mo dito… haha

      • txtman

        SIGE NGA

        GAWIN MO YAN SA ISANG MOSQUE

        OR SA IGLESIA NI KRISTO HA
        .
        .

        IM SURE  TAMA KA

        GO, NA!

        DO IT!

        PANIWALANG-PANIWALA KA NAMAN NA OK NA OK LANG YAN

        DON’T WORRY HINDI KA NILA IDEDEMANDA

        GO, LOLA BASYANG!

        GO, GO, GO!

        AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

        PITIFUL

      • Jane Tan

        Google 

        “MVRS PUBLICATIONS, INC., MARS C. LACONSAY, MYLA C. AGUJA and AGUSTINO G. BINEGAS, JR., petitioners, vs. ISLAMIC DA’WAH COUNCIL OF THE PHILIPPINES, INC., ABDUL-RAHMAN R.T. LINZAG, IBRAHIM F.P. ARCILLA, ABDUL RASHID DE GUZMAN, AL-FARED DA SILVA and IBRAHIM B.A. JUNIO, respondents.” 

        OR 

        “G.R. No. 135306. January 28, 2003″

        Do some reading. If you’re this out of touch with the outside world or the events surrounding the country you’re currently residing in, who is going to believe your out-of-date claims? All you can do is use caps lock. Not exactly a skill.

      • txtman

        TALAGA LANG HA?

        SIGE NGA

        AMONG THE 90, 000, 000 FILIPINOS

        UULITIN KO HA

        90 MILLION FILIPINOS

        ILAN ANG NAKAALAM DYAN SA SINASABI MO?
        .
        .

        MAGBILANG TAYO HA

        1. THE JUDGE & HIS CLERKS

        2. THE RESPONDENTS & MGA NAGDEMANDA

        3. YOU- OO, IKAW
                IKAW NGA, NAG-IISANG IKAW NO OTHER.
        .
        .

        ILAN YAN?

        AROUND 10-20 PEOPLE

        OUT OF 90, 000, 000 FILIPINOS YAN
        .
        .
        OH  JANE TANGA!

        LALO KA NAGMUKHANG TANGA

        AT ISA PA

        NAGNGANGAWA BA SINA LACONSAY ETC SA LOOB NG MOSQUE HABANG SILA AY NAGDADASAL?

        AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
        .
        .

        OH, ALAM BA YAN NI PENOY?

        ALAM BA YAN NI LALA DE BABOY DE LIMA?

        OH, SIGE NGA NAME  NAMES?
        .
        .

        DO SOME READING DAW OH?

        TANGA, YAN ANG TINATAWAG NA TANGANG COMMENT

        AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

        PITIFUL

      • Jane Tan

        Hinde nga nila alam, pero hinde naman sila nagrereklamo kagaya mo.

        Puro ka comment eh wala ka naman alam. Buti alam mo na may alam ako. Hinde naman kasi kami kagaya mo, sabat ng sabat eh wala naman alam lol.

        Wag ka na tumawa para itago na napahiya ka sa comment ko :)

      • txtman

        NAPAHIYA SA COMMENT MO?

        HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA????

        AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

        TANGA

        IKAW ANG NAPAHIYA SA COMMENT MO
        .
        .
         SABI MO MAY ALAM KA?

        HINDI MO NAMAN BINASA

        AT SINO BA ANG NAGREREKLAMO ABER?

        HINDI BA KAYO?

        AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

        READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN

        SABI KO

        HINDI NAMAN KASI NAGNGANGAWA SINA LACONSAY ET AL SA MOSQUE?

        SINO NGAYON ANG WALA ALAM?

        ANG TANGA-TANGA TALAGA

        PITIFUL

      • Jane Tan

        “hypocrite media” -txtman ? toink.

        Among the “90 million Filipinos”, more people know what I am talking about than what you are talking about :)

    • 33Sambuang2

      TXTMAN, BOBO

      • txtman

        MERON KA BANG INTELLIGENT OPINION?

        AY, BABOON KA PALA

        NO WONDER

        BOOOOOOOOOOOO-BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

        TAKBO!

        AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

        PITIFUL

  • UrHONOR

    Tibo: “Hmm…ang baho…who passed gas?”

    CBCpi:  “Hoy, hindi kami….huwag ninyo kaming titi tigan ng ganyan, noh?”  Yong iba ang tingnan ninyo……hindi kami gumagawa ng ganyan sa labas ng simbahan.”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

    ang daming recruiter dito ng born again! gustong maka quota! 10% hut hut ng hut hut. si Pacman na lang hut hutan nyo madaling utuin!! hahaha ginagamit nyo pa ang bibliya para mang hut hot. sa IMPYERNO ang bagsak nyo!!! wag nyo gamitin ang Dyos para mag ka pera kayo! mga demonyo

    • generalproblem

      hehehhe tama kaya bilyonaryo na si jil hehehe

  • Hey_Dudes

    That about put the exclamation mark Celdran.  Yes, they are correct in saying ‘don’t look at us’.  You are a taxpayer while CBCP is not!

    • txtman

      DONT FORGET IGLESIA NI KRISTO, BAPTIST CHURCH, MORMOM,

      ISLAM, BUDDISTS, ETC. ETC.

      ISAMA MO NA DYAN MGA POLITIKO

      MGA SCHOOLS

      MGA FOUNDATIONS NINA PENOY, ARANETA, ROXAS

      FOUNDATIONS & TRUST FUND NG INQUIRER ETC. ETC.

      OFW

      OFW

      ANG DAMI-DAMI NILA ANO?

      PITIFUL

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    HYPOCRITE cbcp.

    • txtman

      HYPOCRITE MEDIA

      I THINK THAT IS WHAT YOU MEAN

      PITIFUL

    • generalproblem

      hypocrite you. bakit inc kaba

    • boypalaban

       steven zahl…musta na?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W7TPARCYJFCSA3PBQAM3MVZO3E kurakut

    IS CATHOLICISM THE PERFECT RELIGION?  CBCP PLS REPLY.

    • txtman

      ANO NAMAN ANG KINALAMAN NG RELIGION SA KASALANAN

      NG ISANG BALAHURANG BADINGAY?

      PLEASE REPLY?

      PITIFUL

    • generalproblem

      hoy satanista walang perfect na riligion. kahit nga si san pedro na unang pinuno ng simbahan tatlong beses pinagkanulo si kristo pero sya ay pinatawad. ganun kaming katoliko mapagpatawad kaso dapat magdusa ka din sa kasalanan mo. walang libring tanghalian sa mundo maliban na lang kung magnanakaw ka as in kurakut. pinatawad na ang bading na rizal pero denemanda sya ng gobyerno. sabi ni pnoy patawarin na daw sya pwes pinatawad na sya hindi naman cbcp ang nagdemanda kundi ang gobeyreno. hehehe buti nga sa inyo kunin na sana kayo ni lord nyo si satanas

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      Christ founded the RCC! His Church is perfect just as Christ is PERFECT!

      Now, if you don t have logic then you better have your brain check!

  • Teresita Sy

    I LOVE THAT THE PHILIPPINES IS A CATHOLIC COMMUNIST COUNTRY. FIRST OF ITS KIND!!

    • just_anotherperson

      Obviously you do not know that Catholic teaching is so opposed to the communist and socialist ideology.

      • Jane Tan

        I think he means tyrant er… dictatorship

      • txtman

        YOU MEAN THE MEDIA HYPOCRITE AKA DICTATORS

        PITIFUL

      • Jane Tan

        nyaaaaarrrr down with the newsss? uh…

    • txtman

      HYPOCRITE MEDIA IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES

      PITIFUL

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      Stupid comment!

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

    No malamang kasi kung perfect yan nasa langit na silang lahat… haha Bobo…

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

    Malamang Hindi kasi kung perfect sila matagal na silang nasa langit

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

    Weh pauso ka nanaman Teresita

  • 33Sambuang2

    BUHAY NA NAMAN SI PADRE DAMASO……

    • txtman

      TAMA NA

      ANG KABADINGAN DYAN

      FOI BILL ANG PAG-USAPAN

      NAPAIKOT NAMAN KAYO NI PENOY & INQUIRER

      MGA UTO-UTO

      PITIFUL

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TSX56EQOQIJQWG42MHQLSZOPXI Flugie

    People won’t be able to help it (looking at you) because it will always smell like the CBCP had a (hidden) hand it. Although, the CBCP did say it will not pursue a case against Celdran and they were true to their word.

    • txtman

      TAMA NA

      ANG KABADINGAN DYAN

      FOI BILL ANG PAG-USAPAN

      PITIFUL

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

         Do you always sign your posts with ‘pitiful?’

      • marionics

        all trolls must have their trademark hahaha

      • txtman

        JUST LIKE YOU?

        KAYA PALA!

        PITIFUL

      • marionics

        just like me
        P
        I
        T
        I
        F
        U
        L
        P
        I
        T
        I
        F
        U
        L
        P
        I
        T
        I
        F
        U
        L
        P
        I
        T
        I
        F
        U
        L

        BWAHAHAHAHA

      • txtman

        TAMA

        JUST LIKE YOU

        OO, YOU

        IKAW NGA

        PITIFUL

      • marionics

        Well I lay my head on the railroad track
        Waiting on the Double E
        But the train don’t run by here no more
        Poor poor pitiful me

        Poor poor pitiful me
        Poor poor pitiful me
        Oh these boys won’t let me be
        Lord have mercy on me
        Woe woe is me

        Well I met a man out in Hollywood
        Now I ain’t naming names
        Well he really worked me over good
        Just like Jesse James
        Yes he really worked me over good
        He was a credit to his gender
        Put me through some changes Lord
        Sort of like a Waring blender

        Poor poor pitiful me
        Poor poor pitiful me
        Oh these boys won’t let me be
        Lord have mercy on me
        Woe woe is me

        Well I met a boy in the Vieux Carres
        Down in Yokohama
        He picked me up and he threw me down
        He said “Please don’t hurt me Mama”

        Poor poor pitiful me
        Poor poor pitiful me
        Oh these boys won’t let me be
        Lord have mercy on me
        Woe woe is me

        Poor poor poor me
        Poor poor pitiful me
        Poor poor poor me
        Poor poor pitiful me
        Poor poor poor me
        Poor poor pitiful me

      • txtman

        PITIFUL

      • Lyndon John Roth

         this reeks with discrimination against gays…so what’s with “kabadingan” then?

      • txtman

        THERE IS NOTHING WRONG KUNG BADING KA

        PERO KUNG BALAHURA KA NA

        AT ASAL BABOY KA NA

        WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?

        YOU HAVE RIGHTS

        WE HAVE RIGHTS

        WE HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS

        YOUR RIGHTS IS NO GREATER THAN US

        SO

        IF YOU WANT THAT YOUR RIGHT IS RESPECTED

        RESPECT THE RIGHTS OF OTHER ALSO

        GETS MO?
        .
        .
         KAPALMUKS MONG MAGSABI NG DISCRIMINATION

        BAKIT?

        YANG PINAGNGANGAWA NINYO

        HINDI BA DISCRIMINATIONS ABOUT THE CATHOLICS?

        HYPOCRITES

        .
        .
         HIRAP KASI SA INYO

        PURO RIGHTS LANG NINYO INIISIP NINYO

        KUNG GUSTO NINYONG MAGING ASAL BABOY

        THEN GO

        MAG-ASAL BABOY KAYO

        PERO WAG NINYO KAMI IDAMAY SA KABABOYAN NINYO

        SELFISH PIGS

        PITIFUL

    • Yxon

      wow…seems like gossip…

  • $42337655

    this guy gets his political mileage by making noise and by being in the news constantly. If he is locked up in prison, he cannot do that anymore and his agenda will be delayed or will be forgotten. He is very afraid to be locked in jail.
    he will try his best not to be jailed so he can keep on being controversial and be talked about as often as possible; he knows people forget very, very easily.
    These types worst fear is to be forgotten and to be absent in the news and limelight.

  • marionics

    anyone care for jokes today?

    • Jane Tan

      Its okay, we got txtman :)

      • txtman

        HYPOCRITE MEDIA

        PITIFUL

      • Jane Tan

        Posting on hypocrite media.

        Even more pitiful :)

      • txtman

        HYPOCRITE MEDIA

        PITIFUL

    • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

      why not

      • marionics

        ok then. i will unload what i got coz’ it’s month’s end already he he

      • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

        looking forward to it

  • Roberto Duran

    “When we go to confession, we are forgiven by God. There is penance, there’s a prayer to God but we also have to compensate for the damage done,” Cerbo told Church-run Radio Veritas. – Padre, so yung mga pedophile na pari bakit tintakpan at tinatago pa ng simbahan, dapat tlga ikulong diba? Practice what you preach, ipakulong nyo muna mga manyakis na pari nyo? Isama na yung pajero club at si Pader yung pinakita sa XXX na regular customer ng night club. 

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

      Panu mo nalamang pinagtatakpan bakit ikaw ba yung nagtatakip o tinatakpan? haha
      Maniac!

    • txtman

      PAPAANO BA NAKUKULONG ANG ISANG TAO?

      1. MAY NAGREREKLAMO

      2. MAY NIREREKLAMO

      ABA EH, MAGREKLAMO KAYO SA PULIS

      KASOHAN NINYO SA KORTE

      KUNG MERON KAYONG EVIDENCES

      KUNG PURO HAHAKA-HAKA

      AT NGAWA-NGAWA

      EH ANG TAWAG SA INYO

      MGA TSISMOSA

      KOMIKS WRITTERS

      .
      .
       BOBO LANG ANG HINDI MAKAINTINDI NYAN

      GETS MO?

      MAGDEMANDA KA

      PARA MAYROONG MAKULONG
      .
      .
       KAGAYA NI BALAHURANG BADINGAY CELDRAN

      BALAHURA KASI

      KAYA HAYAN

      NADEMANDA

      KAYA HAYAN

      MAKUKULONG

      .
      .
      SIMPLE

      PITIFUL

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

        korek!

    • juan_mj

      di idemanda mo, as simple as that

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NK45FSERDNP42R527PYPDWM6FA Cebuanodiay

    Si Jose Rizal matapang di takot makulong at ma-execute. Ready ka ba Celdran? Eh, all for show ka lang naman. Ano ba ang talaga mong mission sa buhay mo. You just like publicity. You look ridiculous in your Halloween costume.

    Do you expect to be a hero just by throwing insults to those who oppose the RH bill? Debate on the issue di mo kailangan murahin ang mga tao ng simbahan! Minura ka ba nila? Ininsulto ka ba nila?

    • Yxon

      ayan parang Rizal nga pala si Celdran. pero bakit takot makulong for his principle?  

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FQQPZLNOMD2EBFTHSWOP6QGZWY Marshall

    Damasos..Mga pinakaipokritong nilalang.. kung walang  reklamo walang ipupursue na kaso…hugas kamay pa itong mga hinayupak na mga malditang pari at obispo…PWEEE  !!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EA7TIY7PYXEU5UOXG2K5CY5F64 Eric

    Ang daming natameme a.

  • Hendot2012

    Potek tong gobyerno natin hanggang ngayon nasa kanser pa rin tyo na tinutukoy na Rizal isang siglo na nakalilipas

  • http://www.facebook.com/gerry.mendez.923 Gerry Mendez

    ito ang maganda sa mga obispo. magaling maghugas kamay.

    • boypalaban

       gaya ng mga pulitiko…na mga mahihirap ang sinisisi sa kanilang kapalpakan…at ang solusyon ay contraceptives….galing ng mga pulitiko…

  • Victor Carl

    In free societies, we have to tolerate the beliefs of the likes of Celdran no matter how foolish those beliefs may be. Similarly, we have to tolerate the stand of the bishops no matter how archaic it may be.

    • http://www.facebook.com/gerry.mendez.923 Gerry Mendez

       the problem with this argument is the bishops does not tolerate contrary views.  they call names people who oppose their stance on RH bill, abortion, etc.  It the bishops want their views to be respected, they should begin respecting others.

  • john_constantine

    Ang galing magsinungaling a.  E dito sa Pilipinas, kung bumitaw ang nagrereklamo, wala na kaso.  E bakit umabot ng dalawang taon?

    • boypalaban

      tanong mo doon sa private prosecutor…

      alam mo ba talaga kalakaran sa korte tungkol sa mga pagsasampa ng kaso?

      • john_constantine

        Oo pre.  Nanakawan na ako dati at nahuli ang nagnakaw.  Thing is, hindi ipupursue ng gobyerno/prosecutor ang kaso kung hindi ikaw na naagrabyado mismo ang nagpupursue.  Long story short, nakakainis ang police kaya madidiscourage ka ipursue – hindi automatic na sinasampahan ng kaso ang salarin kahit caught red handed by the police no less.  At oo, lumapit din ako sa abogado para magpaadvise sa mga bagay na yan.  Pag di ka pursigido , walang kaso.

      • boypalaban

        sorry to hear/know that…
        anyway…iba rin kasi pagkakaalam ko…medyo malalaking kaso kasi yon…

        ingat na lang tayo palagi…

  • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

    Church on Celdran: Don’t look at us
    Church on Discovery of Katipunan: Don’t look at us
    Church on Rizal: Don’t look at us
    Church on RHlaw Petition: Don’t look at us

    • boypalaban

      your idol-gods politicians on poverty: Don’t look at us
      your idol-gods politicians on corruption: Don’t look at us

      your idol-gods politicians on killings: Don’t look at us

      your idol-gods politicians on greed: Don’t look at us
      your idol-gods politicians on exploitation of nature: Don’t look at us
      your idol-gods politicians on false hopes: Don’t look at us
      your idol-gods politicians on empty promises: Don’t look at us

      • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

        That too!!!

      • boypalaban

        ok…

  • txtman

    TAMA NA

    ANG KABADINGAN DYAN

    FOI BILL ANG PAG-USAPAN

    NAPAIKOT NA NAMAN KAYO NI PENOY & INQUIRER

    WAG MAGREREKLAMO

    PAG NAWALA YAN FOI BILL

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    PITIFUL

  • Noel

    If not the Catholic Church, look at who?  The Devil?  The two are no different.

    • juan_mj

      really Noel?

  • LabkoPinas

    Don’t worry Carlos, I will deduct my collecta for the church by seventy per cent and send you the balance in jail to give you something to give the guards and your cellmates. As for the church that is seventy per cent loss for you and I will go to mass only fifty per cent of the time. You lose.

    • txtman

      WHO CARES

      HINDI KA KAWALAN

      PITIFUL

    • johnmiel1319

      We don’t need you anyway.  Bawas pa sa mga salot sa simbahan. Mas mabuti nga wag ka na lang magsimba. Yung mga katolikong baluktot na tulog mo ang sumisira sa simbahan. Pwe!

      • LabkoPinas

        Neither do we need blind followers for the church. That is how Al Queda and the Taliban started. I will not allow my church to have that kind of following. It destroys it and so will you and your Taliban like following.

  • MNLFoodcritic

    The Catholic Church now is just another hypocritical group of deceivers with assets here in the Philippines that run in the billions (yes, google it) who protect their own pedophiles, adulterers and even defend and ally with a corrupt former president. So it is just right that they are fair game to any protester.

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      MAGKANO BA ANG 10% TITHE NA NAKUHA NG MGA BORN AGAINST PASTORS KAY PACQUIAO???

      BALITA KO 40 MILLION…UNG PASTOR NGA NAKA FORTUNER, BUT THEIR SAMBAHAN(BALLROOM, CRYING ROOM, BAND ROOM) ARE STILL IN NIPA…

      ———————-

      AT ANG YAMAN NA NI MANALO AT ANG KANYANG PAMILYA…NAG AAROUND THE WORLD TRIP SILA EVERYTIME…DAHILAN SA MGA TITHES SA IGLESIA NI KULAFU…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/AX6JJVDK2YVZ56DN4TTOMJFRHI Doods

        So you now seem to agree that ALL RELIGIOUS sects including the Catholics are highly commercialized….meaning money first before anything else….who promise for the salvation of soul kuno????
        No wonder….karamihan sa mga religious leaders yumayaman…..

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        ang kaibahan lang…strict ang mga born against sa 10% tithes…pero sa misa, u can give whatever amount u can, WITH NO COERCION…

        and ang isang pari, cannot own that church..once he leave or retire, he cant bring all things in the church or convent, only their personal belongings…but with pastors…they own everything, even the wife and kids of the pastors can take away what their faithful can give to them…

      • johnmiel1319

        Yes, in giving to the church walang sapilitan.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        ang mga maingay naman dito sa blog mga born against at iglesia ni kulafu…

      • juan_mj

        as well as the young and single ladies in their church, they can own it

      • done_druff

        Alam mo, mangampanya ka kung ayaw mo mga myembro ng simbahan eh wag magbigay ng pera! Panay ka reklamo eh hindi ka naman Katoliko.

        Quiet ka na lang at alang K!

        Oy, sabihin mo rin yan kay Manalo, Soriano, Quiboloy, at Villanueva!

      • boypalaban

         isama na si Almeda….

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    WHO IS DAMASO…HE IS A CATHOLIC, A PRIEST WHO DESPITE THE VOW AND THE TEACHINGS OF HIS CHURCH TENDS NOT TO FOLLOW…
    PADRE DAMASO CONVENIENTLY DID NOT FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF HIS CHURCH…
    NOW, WHO IS DAMASO???
    THESE ARE CATHOLICS WHO CANNOT FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF THEIR CHURCH…WHO SIMPLY LOVE TO TRANSGRESS WHAT THE CHURCH SPEAKS…
    AND THE MODERN DAY DAMASOS ARE THESE CATHOLICS WHO ARE PRO RH, THAT DIRECTLY OPPOSE TO THE OFFICIAL TEACHING…

    THE DAMASOS NOW ARE, CELDRAN, HONTIVEROS, PENOY, LAGMAN, AND MANY OTHER CATHOLICS WHO ARE HAVING FUN DISOBEYING THE TEACHINGS OF THEIR RELIGION…

    THESE ARE HYPOCRITES…THESE ARE CAFETERIA CATHOLICS…THESE ARE THE DAMASOS…

    • johnmiel1319

      Well said poltergeist!

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        tnx.

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    kaya pala nakisawsaw si PENOY sa isyung ito para mawala ang attention ng tao sa HINDI PAGPASA NG FOI…

    GALING MO TALAGA INQUIRER…NAPAKA YELOOW MO…!!!!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WJX5I5FJL52QCZDUKDNWOTIZHQ Lateralus

    bastos lang talaga tong si celdran. kung kontra rh pwede naman magprotesta sa kalye.

    • Lyndon John Roth

       Hey, these so called priests use the pulpit to influence/control the members of their so called church to do their every bidding…BULLY PULPIT!

      • boypalaban

        and your gods-politicians use the senate and congress halls to fool people…you being the best example of a foolish follower…

      • done_druff

        Priests? What about PASTORS, IMAMS, MINISTERS? 

        I think you were sodomized by a priest and didn’t get the payment? True?

  • marionics

    When
    a Priest dies, why do they bury them 600 feet underground?

    Because
    deep down, they’re really nice guys.

    • WeAry_Bat

       20 minutes na…wala pang PIPIFUL

    • done_druff

      Ala sa hulog joke mo!

      • marionics

        e ito?-

        How
        can you tell the difference between a dead skunk and a dead Priest on the road?

        The
        vultures aren’t gagging over the skunk.

  • Lyndon John Roth

     Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.

    • boypalaban

      celdran…how does it feel to fool tourists….to use men for your sexual satisfaction….to portray yourself as another Jose Rizal…hahahahaha…celdran a.k.a. lyndon john roth…..

    • boypalaban

       “Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.”

      man/woman na….sablay ka…akala ko makabago ka na….sa mga terminologies pa lang na ginagamit mo, halatang nasa Dark Ages ka pa…Man…Man…Man….Java Man…neanderthal Man…Cro-magnon Man…hey Man….

      • Lyndon John Roth

         suman, unsa man, ano pa?

  • Lyndon John Roth

     “The whole scheme of Christian Salvation is
    diabolical as revealed by the creeds. An angry God, imagine such a
    creator of the universe. Angry at what he knew was coming and was
    himself responsible for. Then he sets himself about to beget a son,
    in order that the child should beg him to forgive the Sinner. This
    however he cannot or will not do. He must punish somebody–so the son
    offers himself up & our creator punishes the innocent youth, never
    heard of before–for the guilty and became reconciled to us. . . . . I
    decline to accept Salvation from such a fiend

    • txtman

      THEN DON’T

      WHO CARES ABOUT YOU ANYWAY

      PITIFUL

    • juan_mj

      i pity on you…i’m sure you have a problem and you blame God

  • Lyndon John Roth

     “The god who supposedly gave me free will
    would by default be barred from begrudging me for exercising it, and
    choosing not to believe in him.”

    • Yxon

      that’s why he exercised it in the middle of the mass.  but how about my rights. is it yours only that should be credited?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/27EZYBBNAPOAXND6IPRZH6Y7TA Coffee

        What he did was clearly a narcissistic display to call attention to himself ! A publicity stunt to make him infamous. If he wanted people to respect his opinion then why disrespect the people who were peacefully celebrating the mass???? What is even more pathetic are the people who claim to support this moron. He clearly broke the law and deserves to suffer the consequences!!!! Stop making excuses for his pathetic and idiotic behavior. Its like saying Carabuena and amalayer had every right to behave in such disgusting fashion!

    • txtman

      SINONG NAGSABI SA IYO YAN?

      KUNG AYAW NINYONG MANIWALA SA DIYOS

      EH, DI WAG

      KARAPATAN NINYO YAN
      .
      .
       REMEMBER

      KARAPATAN DIN NAMIN MANIWALA SA DIYOS

      KAYA, WALA KAYONG KARAPATAN MANGGULO

      SA PAISIMBA NAMIN SA DIYOS

      GETS MO?
      .
      .
       IF YOU WANT TO BE A PIG

      GO AHEAD

      BE A PIG

      ACT LIKE PIG

      WAG LANG NINYO KAMI IDAMAY SA KABABOYAN NINYO

      PITIFUL

  • txtman

    THE NEWS?

    MEDIA HYPOCRISY

    PITIFUL

  • txtman

    IF YOU DON’T KNOW

    HYPOCRITE MEDIA

    THAT IS PITIFUL

    PITIFUL

  • txtman

    HYPOCRITE MEDIA

    PITIFUL

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

    Go Celdran, go! Go to jail!

    • boypalaban

       pangarap niya yan…bilibid boys killer….

      • txtman

        AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

        OH, PABAUNAN NINYO NG MADAMING K-Y JELLY

        IM SURE, HINDI YAN GAGAMIT NG CONDOM

        AHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHI

        PITIFUL

      • boypalaban

         pwede ba petroleum jelly…medyo madulas din yon…amoy gaas nga lang…

    • done_druff

      Kinikili na wetpu nyan ngayon at daming mga boys dun! Sabi nga daw iyong mga ka-kosa nya nagpa-wax na dun sa baba para clean fun!

  • Lyndon John Roth

      Religion is a deadly mental virus that needs
    to be totally uninstalled from the mind in order for the mind to
    function at its optimal level.”

    • Noel

      History tells us that most conflicts and wars were caused by religion.

      • Yxon

        please enumerate the MOST

      • boypalaban

         I agree…but you are referring to fanatics…not to those who obey the teaching of their religion…

      • boypalaban

         ….oooops nakalimutan mo na naman….PERO HALATANG SINASADYA MO….ang MGA PANGINOON MONG PULITIKO na sobrang kasakiman at gustong sakupin buong sangkatauhan…

      • txtman

        RELIGION?

        PAGKAMAL NG SALAPI KAMO

        JUST LIKE YOUR ADVOCATES

        TO HAVE MORE MONEY

        GETS MO

        PITIFUL

      • done_druff

        Can you enumerate here? I don’t think WWI and WWII were ignited by religion!

    • txtman

      ATHEISTSM – RELIGION DIN YAN

      KAYA BA NG PEA BRAIN MONG INTINDIHIN YAN?

      PITIFUL

      • Lyndon John Roth

        two things, your constant use of CAPS and the word PITIFUL is truly pretty PITIFUL

      • Lyndon John Roth

        Atheists rejects the gods worshipped by the larger society.  I, however, simply do not believe the existence of any notion of a divine entity or being

    • done_druff

      Really?! Good luck in removing the virus! The last time I checked, more than 98% of the world population believed in a supreme being and with religion.

      Oh, sorry, I might have underestimated the figure. You might be talking about cold virus. That’s so easy to remove. HIV not possible so don’t use hypodermic needles or better yet, avoid being sodomized without the rubber!

      • Lyndon John Roth

        Hmmm, I wonder where you got your figures?

  • Lyndon John Roth

     Show me a population that is deeply religious,
    and I will show you a servile population, content with whips and
    chains, contumely and the gibbet, content to eat the bread of sorrow and
    drink the waters of affliction. The present condition of
    the people in the Philippines is a touching bit of testimony to the truth of
    this assertion. Here the spirit of the FILIPINO has been
    transformed by hundreds of years of subjection, physical and mental, so
    that they have even glorified the fact of subjection and subservience.

    • boypalaban

       MAY KARAPATAN AKO…AT GUSTO KO I-EXPRESS KARAPATAN KO…

      DI AKO SANG-AYON SA MGA SINUSULAT MO DITO…

      KAYA GUSTO KO IPARATING SA YO ANG HINAING KO SA PAMAMAGITAN NG PAGTAE…

      GUSTO KO TUMAE SA HAPAG KAINAN NINYO HABANG KUMAKAIN KAYONG MAG-ANAK…

      wag mo ako pigilan karapatan ko mag-express ng gusto ko…

      o ano….di ka makasagot…sablay yang pangangatwiran mo…puro ka pagtatanggol ng wala sa ayos…

      • Lyndon John Roth

        Palaban ka talaga pala. No matter all substance, resorting to toilet-quotes and gutter -like reasoning.  No wonder, hindi behind a pseudonym….

      • boypalaban

        soplak ka lang di mo kayang sagutin…

        o paano yan natatae na ako…tatae ako sa pinggan mo…type ko e…

        di ba yan ang karapatan na pinaglalaban mo?

        wag mong pigilan…natatae na ako…at gusto ko i-shoot sa kakainin mo…

        ipaglaban…karapatan ng mamamayan!
        makibaka! huwag matakot!

      • boypalaban

         paano yan talo ka sa argumento self proclaimed na anti God…wala akong pakialaman sa dios na binabanggit mo…ang sa akin ay ikaw si celdran na nagtatago sa pangalan na yan…punta ka na bilibid…di ka uubra sa debate sa akin…

    • done_druff

      Ang dami mong sinabi eh simple lang naman ang kaso ni Celdran! Ano gusto mong mangyari sa sinabi? Hangaan ka ng tao dahil sa pag-construct mo sa English ng statement mo?

      Oh, you might not understand me, I ask for pardon.

      In short, get you tongue-lashing words into places. The issue at hand is simple, no need for philosophical and literary convoluting prose!

      • Lyndon John Roth

        mr balakubak, flex your mental muscle, if you please…your mind is burdened by the oppressive yoke of your  so called faith, WAKE UP and smell reality

  • Noel

    Inquisition is still very much alive today only in a different form.

    • boypalaban

      kung sa kasal mo, may manggugulo kasi di niya type ang ginagawang seremonyas, ok lang sa yo?

    • boypalaban

      bakit di ka makasagot sa tanong ko sa baba?

      sige babaguhin  ko tanong na tinanong ko kahapon:

      MAY KARAPATAN AKO…AT GUSTO KO I-EXPRESS KARAPATAN KO…

      DI AKO SANG-AYON SA MGA SINUSULAT MO DITO…

      KAYA GUSTO KO IPARATING SA YO ANG HINAING KO SA PAMAMAGITAN NG PAGTAE…

      GUSTO KO TUMAE SA HAPAG KAINAN NINYO HABANG KUMAKAIN KAYONG MAG-ANAK…

      wag mo ako pigilan karapatan ko mag-express ng gusto ko…

      o ano….di ka makasagot…sablay yang pangangatwiran mo…puro ka pagtatanggol ng wala sa ayos…

      • Lyndon John Roth

        What’s with your fixation with a certain bodily function? perhaps you need a laxative…

      • boypalaban

        sorry kung halatang soplak ka sa argumento ko a…

        pa english english ka pa…sablay naman sa lohika…

        aral ka ulit ng basic syllogism…kahit basic lang…tsuuuu tssuuuu

      • Lyndon John Roth

        ah, another aristotle-wannabe….awesome, with a dash of mediocrity and a sprinkling of illogical stupidity

      • Lyndon John Roth

        it’s okay, I’m sure your non-existent god will reward your “lohika”

      • boypalaban

        hahahaha…define existence….

    • done_druff

      Inquisition! Alam mo ba sinasabi mo?!

      • Lyndon John Roth

        eh ikaw, do YOU really understand anything about something? really? seriously?

    • where_I_stand

      You don’t know what you’re saying.

      Don’t you know that the Inquition Court, during that time, was preferred (than the regular civil court) by some erring individuals because it allowed them more freedom to defend themselves? The selection itself of the members of the tribunal followed a strict guideline based on qualifications (e.g. licentiates or doctors in theology and canon law for the Inquisitors). It can be compared to the composition of our Supreme Court in the present times. The inquirotorial process itself  (issuance of the edict, presentation of evidence, principles for judgment, among others) was well defined. Since it was primarily a religious court on suppression of heresy, its main interest was not on conviction but on recantation of the heretic teaching. Inquisition court, although mandated by the Papacy, is directly controlled by the civil authority or the crown, the King. (see King Ferdinand & Queen Isabella of Spain).

      If you say, “inquisition is still very much today” in the case of Celdran, in what sense or form? Let us see, if you can support your assertion.

  • FelixSoriano

    Ang mali ay mali. Celdran is punished not  because of his being pro-RH Bill but because of what he did in manila cathedral. Dahil pro-rh siya na naging batas na, ibig ba sabihin kahit mambastos siya ng iba tama na. MALI TALAGA!

    • diandraroldan

      Its what you call “freedom of speech”

      • boypalaban

         pero sa gitna ng prayer service at hindi lang mga katoliko ang nandoon…

      • diandraroldan

        It wasnt a prayer meeting or some mass. It was an ecumenical meeting between Catholics/Protestants. A meeting. People should get their facts straight.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/K3UI7D7YIOQR4LRBYNKOYVMOE4 Danny

        ecumenical service, not a meeting.  in religious parlance, a “service” is one of the ways to deepens once’s faith, expresses his/her faith, or worship, etc. it is NOT a meeting in secular term.

      • Lyndon John Roth

        service, meeting, fellowship or coven call it what you like! its just another get together of humans in search for a reason why they exist to a being that does not!

      • where_I_stand

        Bible enthronement as an ecumenical service is not merely a meeting. It has a deep religious significance for the leaders of various Christian communities (Catholics and Protestants) who were gathered around (in front) of the enthroned Word of God, the Bible.

        When Celdran made his stunt, it was during one of the readings of the biblical text followed by a reflection & sharing. To those who are familiar of this process, Celdran’s action was clearly a disruption of the solemn religious activity.

        The 4 witnesses, Celdran’s act offended them. Christian Monsod & Celdran’s friend were not offended. The court ruled that his act was offensive to religious feelings. Whether it was “notorious” or not, it is up to the higher court to judge.

      • Lyndon John Roth

        words of a blinded fool…

      • boypalaban

        anti God? sinong god ba yan…god ng mga naka-shabu yata binabanggit mo….tira ka pa ulit…

      • Lyndon John Roth

        eh di asawa ng uncle mo….this is becoming ridiculous….

      • im_not_convinced

         to put it in terms you will understand: If a person from the streets, walked in to your house while you were entertaining guests and screamed curses at you, do you consider that ok as part of his right to freedom of speech?  If i am not mistaken, the church is still private property.

        they can even choose not to let you in if they didn’t want you there. people forget this fact because the church normally opens its doors to everyone including KSPs.

        Pnoy himself said that there is freedom of speech but it is not unconditional.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/A5CN52KKTWUHFZJZCWGMAIGZJM Gandalf

        I’m not convinced pa rin. 

      • panhase

        Celdran is a Catholic, so it is his house also. And in case you forgot, everybody is invited into a Catholic church. It´s not “members only”.
        And if somebody comes to my house and screams at me, I would ask him if he need something to eat or to drink, as I did already in the past. The guy calmed down and after a while walked away. No harm done. And the hurt feelings? I did not feel hurt, I felt good afterwards.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QY7YT64FNHGIJW2BGNSVYA2WUI gear

        freedom of speech inside the church? what happen to respect!

      • Lyndon John Roth

        your so called church…BULLY PULPIT

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FL3LL3JXVTUMASSKPNDZPKFJZA Alex

        freedom of speech??? tama ka…nang magsabog ng katangahan ang diyos….sinambot mo lahat.

      • http://twitter.com/CharlesChuaua Charles Chua

        Oh wow, nagpa sabog din pala ng “katangahan” ang Diyos? Isn’t that quite ironic? :( Sad.

      • Lyndon John Roth

        why resort to name calling? perhaps you really belong to the bottom feeders, the shalow end of the gene pool?

  • kraftsch ullman

    e di sundin natin ang batas! my religious beliefs were grossly offended by the catholic church because 
    1. for many many years, priests f**k around and have children; 2. many priests abuse children and don’t go to jail even if reported by victims; 3. they advise rich people to take bribes or do evil stuff just 
    as long as they compensate for it- like putting up foundations to help the poor; 4. they drive around in big trucks; 5. i feel like puking when i know they have so much money and their social doctrine is to help the poor and the poor is just outside their churches; and 6. catholic schools are for the privileged only.
    you can add so many more.

    • done_druff

      Kulang pa yang sinulat mo. Alam ko namang marami kang complains eh… dagdagan mo pa! Anim lang nilagay mo tapos dakdak ka na dyan!

      Teka teka… Katoliko ka ba? Kung hindi, shut your mouth!

      • kraftsch ullman

        uy, defender kuno ng catholic faith!
        eto lang idagdag ko…

        7.  mga taong katulad mo nakakasuka.

      • botets

        What has catholicism has to do with this? Catholic is a relgion and just any other religion it is your faith in God, Allah or Buddha. Celdran  disrespected the holy mass., he took the risk so he has to pay the consequence.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FL3LL3JXVTUMASSKPNDZPKFJZA Alex

        sau ako nasusuka eh! makitid ang utak mo!

      • kraftsch ullman

        ang babae na magiging pari ay kasalanan na katulad ng paring umabuso sa bata – catholic church. babae na gustong magserve sa diyos as pari ay katulad ng isang rapist?
        kung ganun kakitid ba naman ang simbahan paano pa kaya yang utak mo.

    • http://www.aaronlecciones.com jedi aaron of unimatrix 01

      And I can also add that most of what you said I can assume as baseless as they happen generally throughout history, and most of what you said is untrue, and you yourself have offended at least 1.3 billion people so tell me if it were really that bad why don’t people abandon the church in droves? instead we grow thanks to the promise of Jesus to St Peter.

    • lapasan

      How is your allegations related to the conviction of Celdran? Just because of your allegation you would like to justify the wrongdoing committed by that guy for violating a specific Philippine law. Suppose someone is charge in court for stealing? Would you say that a thief should not be punished because he would alleged that the Catholic Church priests are stealing bigger amount from the donation of the faithful. How lousy that argument could be. From your statements, you are a Catholic basher. I am born in a place where majority of the people are Catholics. The behaviour and character of the Catholic priests are very far from what you want the readers of your comment to believe. When I was young there were foreign Catholic priests here who contributed to the good of our community. They helped in the area of education, charity and help of the poor. In fact some of our streets are named after foreign Catholic priests because of their contribution to our community. How about Mother Theresa of Calcutta. She was a Catholic, Can you say that she was a wicked Catholic figure?

      • kraftsch ullman

        mother teresa, catholic, atheist (called christ “the absent one”) for 45 years, did not believe in just 1 year after she founded her congregation. she called herself a “hypocrite” in one of her letters to her father confessor.
        of course, this info doesn’t have anything to do with you.

  • WeAry_Bat

    let me do an Enrile…the disqussion has gone to the gutters :D

    • done_druff

      Wag oks itong si Celdran at mga minions nyang anti-Church!

      • Lyndon John Roth

        correction, I am NOT anti-church, I AM ANTI-GOD

  • marionics

    How
    can you tell the difference between a dead skunk and a dead Priest on the road?

    The
    vultures aren’t gagging over the skunk.

    • WeAry_Bat

       There was an occupational contest on who had the dirtiest underwear…Contestants threw their underwear to the wall.  The one who wins is the one whose underwear stuck the longest.

      The contestants were an engineer, nurse, programmer, lawyer and a priest.

      ..paki-continue nga, hehehe..

      • marionics

        ikaw naman. dalawa lang naman talaga dun ang magka kompetensya e hahaha

      • WeAry_Bat

        hanging ending na lang he he

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      andito ka naman…any other tricks? sawa nako sa la kwentang story mo!

      • marionics

        a catholic priest was on
        TV praising one of his alter boys
        for saving his life,
        the 14 year old boy
        apparently found a
        lump on one of his testicles

    • white_buffalo_95503

      theres another one how can you tell the difference between a dead skunk and a dead priest on the road.  theres skid marks for the skunk

      • marionics

        that was yesterday’s joke but with a cat not a skunk he he

      • white_buffalo_95503

        it was  lawyer not a priest

  • Meow Ming

    Pharisees to Jesus followers: “Don’t look at us. It’s the Romans!”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QY7YT64FNHGIJW2BGNSVYA2WUI gear

    not because majority filipinos are catholics – so we forgive but not forget and (he) must be punished.

    if this happens to other sects like muslims, etc. and the law was not applied, then the law should be abolished if it serves no functions anymore. he derserves it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q2OTHRY3DREIMJMK4VXT6UIPSA salvation phils

    Really???????????

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ELGS2BPKJKG5PDWJAOOCF7K5KI Albert

    Here are a few words for the church to consider in their own reflection which they are happy to show in true colors of personality.
    1. Revenge
    2. Spiteful
    3. Vindictive
    4. Hypocrit

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ICWN53ORGKVFC7AC5JGYDYPDUY Mat

      Your accusations might be true to some church leaders, but that won’t just Celdran’s act of stepping on the rights of others (most especially of the ordinary persons who were there) to exercise their religion freely and peacefully. “Hindi nagiging tama ang maling gawain ni Juan dahil sa pagkakamali ni Jose.”

  • MNLFoodcritic

    The Church condemns Carlos Celdran for ‘disrespect’. But the Church is OK with their priests sexually molesting young boys. The hypocrisy.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ICWN53ORGKVFC7AC5JGYDYPDUY Mat

      “Hindi nagiging tama ang maling gawain ni Juan dahil sa pagkakamali ni Jose”

      • motorcyclemama

         Ang labo, men…

  • MNLFoodcritic

    www pinoymoneytalk com/church-philippines-rich-wealth-stocks/   search this in google or go to link just add the dots. This is how devilishly rich the Philippine Catholic Church is. Do they really share this with the poor and the needy as what Christ has taught us? Luke 12:33 “Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for
    yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will not be
    exhausted, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys.”

    • MNLFoodcritic

       …and they don’t pay taxes to boot!!

    • http://www.aaronlecciones.com jedi aaron of unimatrix 01

      And would you like to input in your callous review how much the Church actually gives? How much the state saves from the services they offer?  Anyway doesn’t matter, I just hope others won’t fall into your Catholic bashing arguments so easily.

      • MNLFoodcritic

         Does the Church really give? Really? And what services do they offer for the state other than charging people of their hard-earned money just to ‘ensure your entry into heaven’ (baptism, confirmation, weddings, etc)?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

        Wake up Ignoramus.

        The catholic church is a BILLION DOLLAR Business.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1079223827 Gam Gayas

    Hehehe. So the men who preach about Jesus acted like Pontius Pilate.

    Catholicism. More fun in the Philippines.

    • http://www.aaronlecciones.com jedi aaron of unimatrix 01

      I wonder if you actually read the article.

      • http://rltjs.wordpress.com/ Rod

         “It was the government, through the public prosecutor, that charged
        Celdran before the courts for “offending religious feelings,” a crime
        under the Revised Penal Code, said Peachy Yamsuan, communications chief
        of the Archdiocese of Manila.”

        Ano klase statement galing sa simbahan yan?

      • nakawan

        why what’s wrong with it?

    • http://rltjs.wordpress.com/ Rod

       Tumbok mo. Parang naghuhugas kamay, as if kasalanan ang pagparusa kay Mr. Celdran at wala sila kinalalaman. Umiwas sila.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ICWN53ORGKVFC7AC5JGYDYPDUY Mat

      Weee ang sabi nga sa article, according to Archbishop Rosales, hindi na ipursue ang kaso, pero ang prosecutors ang nagpursue.   Sa kaso ni Pontius Pilate, naghugas many sya ng kamay, pero nasa kapangyarihan pa rin nya na ipapako sa krus si Hesus o hindi.  Sa kaso ni Celdran,  wala sa kapangyarihan ni Archbishop Rosales na diktihan ang prosecutorr’s office kung ipursue o hindi ang kaso.

    • nakawan

      Gam did you just compare Celdran to Jesus Christ? Let’s admit it, what the guy did to disrupt that mass wasn’t exactly savory…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

    Celdran’s imprisonment is WELL-DESERVED. Good for him.

    The church may have forgiven him, but let him serve his sentence for violating a state law. 

    • MNLFoodcritic

       I also hope the priest child molesters, whom the Catholic Church is protecting, also serve their sentences for violating the law, ‘moral law’ and the ‘common decency law’.

      • http://www.aaronlecciones.com jedi aaron of unimatrix 01

        And may all those other as well since the likelihood of what you said in any organization or overall in society is just the same or worse than in the Catholic Church. So go do your Catholic bashing and hating elsewhere.

      • MNLFoodcritic

         Nice argument, just because other organizations have the same ‘sinners’, we’re no longer allowed to criticize the Catholic Church? Nice, the typical and usual argument of the Catholic Church: Infallibility.

      • MNLFoodcritic

         For a well-educated guy like you I never thought you’d be one of those who can be deceived by the Catholic Church: ph linkedin com/in/aaronlecciones

      • reddfrog

         That’s what brainwashing does. Even the supposedly smart people stop using their brain.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ICWN53ORGKVFC7AC5JGYDYPDUY Mat

        My hope is the same as yours, but that won’t justify Celdran in any way.  “Hindi nagiging tama ang maling gawain ni Juan dahil sa pagkakamali ni Jose”

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PJTH3SHQU3B4TCUVRH2UXZCJDY Balahura

        yan ang reasoning ng tunay na mga Damaso(not Celdran). Yung pagkakamali ni Jose na Pari (child molester) cannot make right the error of Juan (Celdran,) na ang kaso ay offending religious feelings, 
        ………yes correct kaya nga paparusahan ang magaan na kasalanan ni Celdran subalit patatawarin pagpapaumanhinan ang karumal dumal na mga pari na child molester. hehehe daig nyo pa si Atty Topacio kung magpalusot!

      • reddfrog

         We have something called fairness and justice.

      • nakawan

        So you believe what happened to him was not fair? He interrupts a mass, lambastes the Church making a spectacle, and he gets punished under the articles of the law.  That’s unfair?

  • http://rltjs.wordpress.com/ Rod

    Hindi ko ma intiendehan itong mga tag simbahan. Hindi naman pala sila interesado sa kaso bakit ganoon? This is funny. Who is being funny.

    Normally PAO do not pursue or defend a case by themselves. They usually stand by whoever is complaining or whoever is to be defended whichever.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ICWN53ORGKVFC7AC5JGYDYPDUY Mat

      Hindi po PAO ang nag pursue according sa article… yung prosecurtor’s office. iba po un sa PAO

  • http://twitter.com/CharlesChuaua Charles Chua

    Enumerate MOST?

    Try google-ing Caligula, Nero, Domitian, Commodus. Those are just some. Work on your knowledge about Catholicism’s history.

    • panhase

      Pope Alexander VI. is also a good one. His SON, Cesare, became the the bishop of Valencia.
      The mistress of Alexander VI, was the famous Gulia Farnese. She became the lover of the Pope when she was 15. As a reward for her “loyalty”, her brother was made a Cardinal when he was 25.
      A statue of this famous ehhh… Lady?, can still be seen in the Vatican. Only later it was covered by cape made of lead, when before the statue of Gulia could be admired in her beautiful nakedness.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ICWN53ORGKVFC7AC5JGYDYPDUY Mat

        anong relasyon nito sa kaso ni Celdran?

      • reddfrog

         It shows the tradition of hypocrisy of the Catholic clergy. Kaya nga Damaso eh, gets mo?

    • lapasan

      Sir, please clarify what Caligula, Domitian, Nero and Commodus had anything to do with the history of Catholicism When it was Constantine the Great who made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire and made Christianity the dominant religion of the empire and later the world. From my simple knowledge of history I think that the emperors you mentioned lived before Constantine. And how could they contribute something to Catholicism’ history when they were not Catholics.

    • Pedro_Gil

      Oy insik, ano pakialam mo sa katoliko? nagmamarunong pa ito. sungalngal ang abot mo maski maurunong ka ng kungfu. hehehe. suck celdran, that would be better and rewarding for you.

  • http://twitter.com/CharlesChuaua Charles Chua

    Is this how a “devoted Catholic” supposed to act towards these kinds of situations? How ironic.

    • Pedro_Gil

      Oy insik, ano pakialam mo sa katoliko? nagmamarunong pa ito. sungalngal ang abot mo maski maurunong ka ng kungfu. hehehe. suck celdran, that would be better and rewarding for you.

      • reddfrog

         Bakla ka ano?

    • nakawan

      I hate pedophile priests like the next guy, but what Celdran did was offensive no matter how you see it.  Some people could care less about his crusade, they were probably just there attending mass.  He ruined the experience for them with his kabastusan.  He should man up and face jail time.

  • http://rltjs.wordpress.com/ Rod

    Actually wala ako doon sa simbahan. Hindi ko rin tralagang problema kung ano ang tingin ng mga Obispo.  Na imagine ko lang, halimbawa nandoon ako, at nakikinig sa sermon, na malayo naman sa RH Bill ang tinatalakay, at bigla lang may nambulabog, mabuti walang nagpanik at nagstampede. Bad trip. Nerbyoso pa naman ako.

    • ARIKUTIK

      Kung nandoon ako na kasama ang sinusuyong katakam takam na chicks, tiyak batok ang aabutin ni Celdran sa akin may dagdag pang tadyak kasi para hangaan ng sinisintang chicks. Aba’y sabi ng Panginoon na labanan ang demonyo dapat sundin at tama lang na bugbugin ko si Celdran. Pero yong magsusumbong sa korte dahil walang kakayahang mambatok ay sumasamba sa korte ng tao hindi sa Diyos. Ang Filipino ay parang si Rizal. Babarilin na nga kinabukasan ayaw pang tumakas sa pamamagitan ng tulong ni Bonifacio kasi umasa si Rizal na isasalba siya ng korte. Korap na nga ang gobyernong kastila ay naroon pa rin ang paniniwala ni Rizal sa hustisya. Eh di tigok siya ng walang kalaban laban. Ang Filipino ay naghihirap na alipin kasi tulad ni Rizal na umasang isasalba ng korap na gobyerno. Rizal as hero had made the Filipinos cowards as demontrated by Celdran. But Filipinos claim to be educated with out knowing that it was an education for slavery.

  • http://www.facebook.com/freddie.caramat Freddie Caramat

    Celdran broke the law, so he must be punished.. If he did the offense to other religious sects which consider such religious transgressions as an attack to their faith & need bloody repulsion, he may be in for more trouble. Just serve your sentence and be good next time….

  • http://www.facebook.com/freddie.caramat Freddie Caramat

    Celdran broke the law, so he must be punished.. If he did the offense to other religious sects which consider such religious transgressions as an attack to their faith & need bloody repulsion, he may be in for more trouble. Just serve your sentence and be good next time….

    • reddfrog

       Be good next time? You mean be a sheep next time.

      • nakawan

        No he can do it again and again if he wants. He just has to abide by this article from the penal code: 

        “The penalty of arresto mayor in its maximum period to prision correccional in its minimum period shall be imposed upon anyone who, in a place devoted to religious worship or during the celebration of any religious ceremony shall perform acts notoriously offensive to the feelings of the faithful.” – Article 133, Revised Penal Code of the Philippines

        I mean, if he gets caught again, he should know what comes after.  The guy should stop whining about going to prison, he knows he offended people.  Maybe they weren’t huge fans of his, but people were still offended.

  • http://twitter.com/49916140 Mirabelle Dorcas

    TANGA AMP! SABI NG REVISED PENAL CODE “NOTORIOUSLY” OFFENSIVE! 
    WOW! IDIOT! Notorious ba ang ginawa niya? GRRR!

    • botets

      sige sa party ng anak mo o lamay ng kamag anak mo kun me biglang papasok na me galit sayo at mangulo pasalamatan mo ha hehehe

      • reddfrog

         Dapat dyan civil case, hindi criminal case. Bobong katoliko!

      • botets

        very uncalled for atty palaka, is that what your church teaches you? Oh well if you do believe its only a civil case try interrupting a court hearing a case  A hole

  • opinyonlangpo

    This is the CBCP, the Roman Catholic Church. They won’t miss an opportunity to get back to those who displease them. Beware. The politicians who did not go with the Catholic wishes should be aware with this, the Catholic clergy will do everything to bring them down. And with a smile as a facade.

    • nakawan

      It was the city government that pressed charges, not the Church.

      • opinyonlangpo

        I see. That was how you understood it. Now its the prosecutors who made the complain and filed the case against Celdran. I seen cases worst than this settled out of the court but not between the offender and the prosecutor, that would be corruption then. Anyway, everybody is entitled to their own opinion.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003930126664 Ram Tan

        Once a case is filed in there is nothing that the private offended party can do. everything is left to the discretion of the court. the prosecutor cannot even dismiss it if the Court itself won’t allow it. Even if there is an order from the Secretary of DOJ to withdraw the charges, that will not be possible for the Court has already acquired jurisdiction over Celdran. Insofar as settlement is concerned, that is always a possibility in a civil case. but in criminal cases, except for quasi offenses or criminal negligence, the Rules do not allow it. In fact, if the accused offered a compromise that will be taken against him as an implied admission of guilt. the only exception would be private crimes or crimes against chastity like acts of lasciviousness and seduction were the offended party  is allowed under the rules to expressly pardon the offender.

      • nakawan

        okidoki

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PJTH3SHQU3B4TCUVRH2UXZCJDY Balahura

    Ito ang reasoning ng tunay na mga Damaso(not Celdran). Yung pagkakamali ni Jose na Pari (child molester) cannot make right the error of Juan (Celdran,) na ang kaso ay offending religious feelings, 
    ………yes correct kaya nga paparusahan ang magaan na kasalanan ni (Juan) Celdran subalit patatawarin pagpapaumanhinan ang karumal dumal na mga kasalanan ni Jose (mga kaparian) na child molester… hehehe ang husay ninyo sa Philosophy mga baluktot tulad din kayo ni Atty Topacio kung magpalusot!

  • ARIKUTIK

    Yong mga nasa simbahan ay Pretending to be educated bunch with out hint of what to do when confronted by an evilman. The scenario had demonstrated why Filipinos are poor slaves.

  • ARIKUTIK

    Talagang wala akong utak sa ulo kasi napunta lahat sa aking kamao. Kung nandoon ako ay tiyak na bugbog ang aabutin sa akin ni Celdran. Kesehodang ako ang makulong basta ipagtatangol ng sarili kong kamao ang aking pananampalataya. Anong silbi ng utak sa ulo kung hindi naman marunong manindigan sa sarili. Magsusumbong sa korap na korte ng Pilipinas ? Kaya alipin ang Filipino kasi meron daw utak pero utak talangka naman gawa ng iyon ang itinuro ng eskwelahan.

    • Pedro_Gil

      tama ka diyan dre. di lang kamao ko ang tatama sa animal na yan pati siko at tadyak sa walang respetong asong iyan. simple lang trespassing at pambabastos sa misa sa simbahan at sa mga nagsisimba.

      • http://twitter.com/BoiledBabies Boiled Babies

        wow
        ‘bubugbugin niyo si celdran?’
        and you call yourselves good catholics..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/DXDWC2BHPNUIJ4JWZK2V743FTY Rae Allan

        mga oto oto yang mga yan..kung ano sinabi ng cbcp yun na rin conviction nila-kung sinabi ng pope na pumatay (as in the old times) papatay nga–wow na wow mga utak ng mga yan–yan ang tinatawag na walng utak-celdran stood up for what he believe as an oppresive church- I believe him.

      • reddfrog

         Just taking a page from the hypocrites. Lead by example ika nga. Catholics = hypocrites.

      • nakawan

        Boiled Babies he should be on his hands and knees praying to every pagan idol he can grab, thanking his gods that he didn’t storm a mosque. Otherwise a very different guy would be touring visitors around Manila today.

      • vc2ria

        simpleng logic lang yan ‘pre, gusto mo bang may pumapasok sa bahay mo habang kayo ay naguusap na mag anak, sige nga, o tanga na lang kayong nagsasabi na nag eexpres lang si celdran. 

  • ARIKUTIK

    Hindi lagi ma Attached ang Reply …… waaahhhhhh….. makakain na nga lang. I’ll be back with bulging stomach ….. weeeeeeee…>>>>>>>>>>>>

  • brunogiordano

    Catholic Church teaching holds that while sins are forgiven when a Catholic goes to confession, it does not necessarily remove all the “temporal punishment” for one’s transgressions, he said.

    Ibig sabihin Sa PURGATORIO pa rin ang TUNGO mo.

    Kung bibili kang INDUGENCIA kay ‘TETZEL’ ng CBCP, hindi ka na dadaan sa PURGATORIO.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Abdul-Rashid/100004367910013 Abdul Rashid

    As the Church deny guilt from Rizal’s assasination, now they are again denying guilt for crucifying Celdran. What really is their stand? Dapat transparent sila magpakatotoo ka CBCP. Ano ba ang kailangan nyo? Pera? Pajero? Baka kailangan nyo luxury car para mabisita ninyo ang inyong mga na oto?
     

    • vc2ria

      sa mosque mo kaya gawin ni celdran yan, matutuwa ka ba?Tama lang na makulong si Celdran, lahat tayo may religious rights, pwera lang kung wala kang relihiyon!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DXDWC2BHPNUIJ4JWZK2V743FTY Rae Allan

  • reddfrog

    What a bunch of hypocritical cowards.

    • botets

      So why do you keep mentioning catholics in general in a negative way? Paki mention mo nga ang relihiyon mo kundi ka duwag palaka hehehe ni pangalan mo nga di mo magamit thats hypocrisy to d highest level
       

    • nakawan

      Celdran is within his rights to protest. He has the freedom to offend anyone he pleases. But once he gets pinched for it, he should be as brave as his protester self and face prison like a man.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003930126664 Ram Tan

    Why blame the Church? Even if they forgive Celdran 1,000x theres nothing that they can do to stop the conviction. take note, it’s not the Catholic Church vs. Celdran. It’s the People of the Philippines vs. Celdran. That State is the one prosecuting the Celdran not the Church. Even if the DOJ Secretary directed the prosecutor to withdraw the charges theres nothing that they can do because the Court has already acquired jurisdiction over the case. to acquit or convict is a matter left solely to the discretion of the trial court. and the judge, if he acquits the accused on the basis purely of public clamor or public opinion will sure be violating his oath of office. He must render a decision based purely on the facts of the case and the evidence presented during the trial. I am not a Catholic by the way. I’m just an ordinary man who cannot stand the ignorance of the public in situations like this. Media really make us stupid. Why dont we read the rules on criminal prosecution instead of taking the media reports as gospel truth? pssshhh….

  • josefe38

    Health Canada to check birth control pill Diane-35 in wake of deaths
    By Staff
    Torstar News ServiceHealth Canada is following the lead of Europe’s top health authority in launching a review of a popular acne pill that has been linked to the deaths of 11 women in Canada and four in France.The announcement from Ottawa comes a day after the Toronto Star published a report showing the suspected death toll in Canada connected to Diane-35 is nearly three times higher than in France, where sales of the drug have been suspended.The Star found 195 cases of adverse reactions to Diane-35 were reported to Health Canada since 2000. The majority were categorized as “serious,” meaning the drug was suspected of causing a life-threatening condition that resulted in hospitalization, disability, or death. Eight of the dead were younger than 30. Four were teenager.Most experienced severe and excessive blood clotting in their legs, sudden blockages in their lungs and chest pain before death.Since 2002, Health Canada has issued three advisories about Diane-35, which is only approved in Canada for the temporary treatment of severe acne. But many physicians prescribe it for birth control, which is how it was originally introduced in Europe decades ago.“I can’t see the rationale for keeping this drug on the market,” says Barbara Mintzes, an epidemiologist at the University of British Columbia, who evaluates the safety and effectiveness of drugs.The open-ended review of Diane-35 — Health Canada says there is no timeline to complete the audit — offers her little reassurance.“If it is a long-term process, this is a problem, as women continue to be exposed to Diane-35,” says Mintzes, a professor with UBC’s School of Population and Public Health.“There has been enough information out in the public domain for quite a long time for Health Canada to have taken the decision to withdraw this drug from marketing.”Safety concerns about the drug have been raised for more than a decade. Every birth control pill carries some risk of blood clotting but Diane-35, which contains cyproterone acetate, has been reported to have quadruple the risk when compared with other oral contraceptives.On Sunday, France’s health regulator announced it was investigating Diane-35 after four deaths in the past 25 years had been linked to the drug. On Wednesday, it said it would pull the drug, and its generics, from the market within three months.On Thursday, the European Medicines Agency said it would launch a sweeping investigation of Diane-35, also known as Dianette, and its generics. Hours later, Health Canada said it would review “all available safety information.”A drug review, the department says, typically entails examining reported adverse reactions and scientific studies. In this case it could also include consulting reports and data from Europe.France’s health authority ANSM estimates that 315,000 people were on the pill in 2012.German drugmaker Bayer told the Star it sold 401,230 boxes of Diane-35 in Canada in 2012. A spokeswoman said the company could not extrapolate the number of patients on the drug because length of treatment varies.In France, where it is authorized for use as an acne treatment, ANSM estimated that the average woman consumed 13 boxes a year. Based on that formula, it is estimated that roughly 30,000 Canadian patients might have used the drug last year.

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