Celdran found guilty in ‘Damaso’

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NO THEATRICAL SCENE Tour guide Carlos Celdran is put behind bars in this file photo taken in 2010 when he was arrested for his “Damaso” act. INQUIRER PHOTO

It was the kind of court decision that—for some—could only please Padre Damaso.

A Manila court on Monday found tour guide Carlos Celdran guilty of offending religious feelings when, dressed like Jose Rizal, he stood in front of the main altar of Manila Cathedral during an ecumenical service, shouted and raised a placard with the word “Damaso” on it.

In an eight-page decision, Metropolitan Trial Court Judge Juan Bermejo Jr. sentenced Celdran to a minimum of two months and maximum of one year in prison for violating Article 133 of the Revised Penal Code.

Celdran was protesting against the Church’s opposition to the reproductive health (RH) bill then pending in Congress. The measure was passed into law last year.

Damaso is a hated character in Jose Rizal’s novel “Noli Me Tangere,” which depicts the abuses of  friars in the years of Spanish rule.

Judge Bermejo cited a law which penalizes “anyone who, in a place devoted to religious worship or during the celebration of any religious ceremony, shall perform acts notoriously offensive to the feelings of the faithful.”

An act is considered offensive to a religion when it is “directed against religious practice or dogma or ritual for the purpose of ridicule, as mocking or scoffing at or attempting to damage an object of religious veneration.”

‘Still flexing muscles’

Celdran, who was in court with his wife Leny to hear the verdict, said his legal team was preparing to appeal the decision, adding  it set a “bad precedent” and that he was ready to take his fight all the way to the Supreme Court.

“The time of Damaso is not yet over,” Celdran told the Philippine Daily Inquirer in Filipino. “As a matter of fact, Damaso is flexing his muscles to get back [into the picture].”

Also a theater artist and a painter, Cedran has been known to use his celebrity status to take on social issues.

“I am afraid for the Filipino people because this is a precedent that, when you question the Catholic institution, they can bring you to court and put you in jail,” Celdran, who is out on bail, said. “I am lucky that I have legal support but what about other Filipinos who don’t?”

Stay away from politics

Celdran said he was not surprised by the court’s decision and that he suspected it was payback for his vocal stance against the Church position on the RH measure.

Bermejo also cited a 1939 Supreme Court decision stating that the determination of an act’s offensiveness was “a question of fact which must be judged only according to the feelings of the Catholics and not those of other faithful ones.”

Prosecution witnesses testified that at 3 p.m. on Sept. 30, 2010, inside the Cathedral-Basilica of the Immaculate Conception, Celdran interrupted an ecumenical prayer when he went near the altar and flashed the “Damaso” placard.

Dressed like Rizal, he shouted that the Church “should stop getting involved” in politics.

The incident occurred during the second anniversary of  the “May They Be One Bible Campaign” and the launch of the “Handwritten Bible,” a project of the Philippine Bible Society (PBS), with a two-part program—the ecumenical prayer and the Holy Mass.

The occasion was attended by then Manila Archbishop Gaudencio Cardinal Rosales, the papal nuncio, other bishops, PBS members, and military and police officers, witnesses said.

Fr. Oscar Alunday, executive secretary of the Episcopal Commission for Biblical Apostolate (Ecba), said the incident was “insulting, aggrieving, and an intrusion of the holy liturgical worship.”

Witness Angelito Cacal, a staff of Ecba, said he was “surprised, offended and angry since he did not expect such incident will happen considering that it was a solemn celebration.”

“The positive declaration of the witnesses for the prosecution and the circumstances surrounding the incident are sufficient to satisfy the quantum of evidence needed for a criminal conviction,” the court decision said.

‘Damaso still strong’

Celdran said the verdict would not slow him down because he believed  the decision violated freedom of speech, human rights and the separation of Church and State.

“There was a case in the 1950s but it was never taken to trial because that law was never taken seriously. Now, in the age of technology, of the mobile phone, Damaso is still strong,” he said.

Celdran, who has apologized to the Archdiocese of Manila,  said the Church leaders had forgiven him in the name of the Lord but not on the earthly realm.

“As far as they are concerned, I can go to heaven, but I have to go to jail first,” Celdran said.

Msgr. Nestro Cerbo, rector of Manila Cathedral, declined to comment on Celdran’s conviction.

“I am not authorized to give a statement. I might get sanctioned. Please take pity on me,” Cerbo told reporters. He directed the media to the Archdiocese of Manila’s communications office for an official comment.

In a statement, Human Rights Watch said: “This is a setback for free speech in the Philippines, which prides itself on being a democracy. This verdict should be reversed. Nobody should be jailed for voicing out an opinion or position, especially on a subject that concerns the lives of millions of Filipino women and mothers.” With reports from Jocelyn R. Uy, Leila B. Salaverria and Inquirer Research

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  • bogli_anakdami

    in flipland, if you shout inside a church = kalaboso

    if you kill ‘sang tambaks na flip gung gongs in broad daylight = goodtime dito sa kanilang mansions/resorts

    kapag ninakaw ang pondo ng bayan = ‘bakwet sa ‘merka, tambay doon sa vegas…

    hay naku, flips, puro mga gung gongs…

    • barok

      are you referring to the entire Filipino race when you say “flips”? in ‘merka when you curse a certain race or minority it is racism…

      • bogli_anakdami

        there are african-americans and n!ggers; there are whites and honkies/trailer-trash; there are latinos and wetbacks, etchastera, etc…

        u get my drift?

      • barok


  • AntiAko

    Sad day, indeed, for democracy… all in the name of zeal… tsk, tsk, seems like our priests have not learned the virtues of love and forgiveness which our Lord has showed and taught.

    • Vincent Tuason

      mercy also requires justice. otherwise, wala ng silbi ang korte.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_X7ZXAWDLJZ4YDF2BTYTFXBNNEU ISCA

    “I am afraid for the Filipino people because this is a precedent that,
    when you question the Catholic institution, they can bring you to court
    and put you in jail….”

    We can question the Catholic Institution any day we want but there are better ways and  places to do that. I may not agree with the Church in their position regarding family planning but a little respect is needed everytime.

    The Church has forgiven him. But as we always say, we can forgive but not forget. The Law says he still has to answer for his deeds. Freedom of Speech doesn’t mean you can disrespect someone anytime.

    • bogli_anakdami

      celdran committed a cardinal sin (ooopsie cardinal sin, ‘wag akong multuhin ha?)..  in flipland, shouting inside a church is a heinous crime… worst than murder and thievery…

      dapat ipako sa krus si celdran sa biyernes santo… total eh malapit na naman ang mahal na araw, di ba?

      mga flip gung gongs, ano bang araw ang biyernes santo???

      • $20722540

        ikaw ay flip na flip at gung gong!

      • bogli_anakdami

        pogi naman, di ba?

      • $20722540

        yeh pogi with flat nose at gung gong pa

      • bogli_anakdami

        bwa ha ha ha ha, gung gong

      • $20722540

        you’re a flip head calling them gung gong, when in fact, you are the gung gong gonggorer

      • barok

        none sense troll

    • duviz7533

      we can show our opposition sa issue pero right place in the righ time…medyo grandstanding na din ang ungoy na ito or pakawala ng manufacturer ng mga condoms and contraceptives…bakit hindi niya hamonin si sila enrile at sotto..di ko din gusto ang position ng catholic church pero di ako magwawala sa loob ng simbahan

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CRBW2RJR4WNWVIDZVSCLFQK4KQ Spike

    Wow and  to think the current president is the son of the so called champion of democracy

    • Marx Louis Wang

      I-ispiking kita diyan, e! Bakit ang presidente ang sisisihin mo? Hindi naman siya ang gumawa ng law na ito?

  • $20722540

    hey celdran, go home and plant kamote

    • bogli_anakdami

      not too fast…

      kailangan eh may bendisyon ni kaksaker padre dumbasso yung kamote before planting, di ba?…

      para maganda ang talbos… ymmmy, talbos ng kamote at bagoong…

  • Marx Louis Wang

    Ang ginawa ni Celdran ay expression of his freedom of speech. 

    • barok

      ang ginawa naman ng mga kinauukulan ay rule of law…a church is a house of God just like your house is home to your family…kung ganun din kaya gawin a bahay mo, matutuwa ka ba?

  • http://enria.org/ scconcern

    Being convicted and imprison because of ones belief and ideals is honorable, unlike our goverment officials and friar who cheat and steal from the people.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

      He was convicted not because of his beliefs and ideals,  but because he did it in the wrong place and time.

  • bogli_anakdami

    dito sa flipland, pwedeng gawin ang lahat ng krimen…pumatay, kumabits, magnakaws, mag-squat, at saka jay walking… libre, walang kaso…

    pero, kapag binatikos si padre dumbasso, kalaboso ka…

    dat’s a no no, di ba, mga kabayang flip gung gongs? 

  • Albert Einstien

    impliedly repealed na yan provision ng 1932 RPC art 133 ng 1987 constitution HINDI lang ininvoke ng lawyer nya…pwede pa i-invoke yan sa appeal…issue of jurisdiction din yan….

    celdran’s lawyer should have INVOKED religious belief…what he has done inside the church is a RELIGIOUS BELIEF…under the 1987 constitution art 3 Section 5. NO LAW shall be made respecting an establishment of religion, or PROHIBITING the FREE EXERCISE thereof. The FREE EXERCISE and enjoyment of religious profession and worship, WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION or preference, shall FOREVER BE ALLOWED …

    celdran is just exposing the misdeeds of some men of god to GOD himself…NAGSUSUMBONG lang cya sa GOD….religious exercise yan..

    • Jane Tan

      True. Even though I doubt that was what he was really doing. But, it wouldn’t help. Article 133 of the RPC will still apply. There is no acknowledged religion which practices such actions.

  • John_Galt_II

    This judge should be jailed for offending my non religious beliefs!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FKE56ZWNI2XKEVVLZQGRWG7WBI BURADOR—Phil. Voice

    CELDRAN knew the PROBLEM of Philippine society and it is OVER POPULATION—–And CELDRAN KNEW who is to BLAME on this PROBLEM—-the Catholic of the Philippines—————-CELDRAN was JUST EXERCISING his FREEDOM of SPEACH to PROTEST on the DAMASSOS——–and therefore NOT CRIMINAL——
    ——————–REALEASE HIM ————

    • barok

      Pasalamat pa rin sya kasi he is in a free country, eh kung sa Russia kaya nya gawin yun. Parang pag sinabi mo kasing freedom of speech eh pwede mong gawin ang gusto kahit nakakasakit ka na ng kapwa at damdamin, I think it should come with respect.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FKE56ZWNI2XKEVVLZQGRWG7WBI BURADOR—Phil. Voice

        YES—you have the RIGHT to RESPRECT the DAMASSOS- I respect you with that—-but CELDRAN DO NOT RESPECT Damassos —we have to RESPECT him too——

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        freedom and right nya nga pero dapat may limitasyon..dinidistract nya or iniinterupt nya kc ung mass..don sya ndale…gawin nya kaya yan sa mga kapatid na muslim habang nagdadasal..ewan ko lng..pasalamat nga sya at catholic gnawan nya ng ganyan,..be responsible kc

      • barok

        Respect is earned.

  • duviz7533

    I don’t agree sa stand ng catholic church pero we should not cross the line..mga senators na pro life kuno ang pagbubulwayan niya sana

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/6Z3YEBBCMPFXHTF7O5T44PLEYE Yves

      EXACTLY !!!

  • Mamang Pulis

    kapag bumabanat si bishop arguelles—-ok lang

    hindi–hindi pambabastos yun…. ginagawa nun matanda prayle…ay..

    na ngangaral sa mga naliligaw na tupa…

    si celdran—?? medyo na carried away 

    di kaya paihelera na nagangaral din si celdran?

    o nga pala–malakas pala si obispo kay gad…de met sheet

  • Ronald

    Wag kasi OA at KSP, ang luwag luwag sa labas e manggugulo ka sa nagmimisa. Jail time will do you good.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza


  • Vertumnus

    Should have been a misdemeanor charges.  The Church holds too much power over the people of the Philippines.

    “directed against religious practice or dogma or ritual for the purpose of ridicule, as mocking or scoffing at or attempting to damage an object of religious veneration.”

    Since when did we venerate a snake of a priest like Damaso? The only mistake Celdran made was interrupting the mass, maybe trespassing.   But then again, that was the only way to get attention and TV exposure over the cause of the RH bill.   There’s room for appeal on this case.  Hopefully Celdran wins.  He doesn’t really need to serve more time in jail.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Yeah, a misdemeanor charge would’ve been more than enough, IMO.

    • diamond_digger

       You raised good points, Vertumnus. During the final deliberations of the RH, those priests and bishops, together with their minions trooped to the august halls of congress in their flaming-red attire – not because it was the fashion of the day – but very obviously also to attract attention just like Celdran doing it during the mass. Isn’t this a clear case of double-standard? These supposedly moral guardians clearly wanted to bake their cake and eat it, too. May they should choke!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza


  • Opinionkolangto

    Mr. Celdran may criticize the priests but should not do it inside a church.  there are other venues for such actions.  Did he think that exercising his freedom of speech during a service is a valid ground to disrespect the attendees’ privacy and time with God?  Shame on you Mr. Celdran.  I may not agree with the Catholic Church meddling in politics and other actions of certain priests but Mr. Celdran’s antic crossed the line of decency.

  • napali808

    What happen to the Freedom of Speech? RELEASE Celdran!! He shouldn’t go to jail for this. If he is guilty for misdemeanor, he should be fined or do community sevice…not a jail term. He is not a criminal; he is a true Filipino.

    • diamond_digger

       Yes! And that brings me to the question of: Which is a greater offense; pedophilia and sexual misconducts or that which Celdran did? The irony becomes greater if we factor the fact that Celdran is paying for his income tax yet those priests and bishops, including their church are not. They seem to be already enjoying the perks of heaven while still on earth!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    Then jail all the PEDOPHILE priests too.

    • diamond_digger

       That’s right! That should also include that all ivory-smuggling monsignor from Cebu who was even charged in the US of child abuse. These priests and bishops are exploiting our governments leniency on them, but there should always be an end to everything. Let us not just denounce them but let us all take part in exposing and witnessing against these human predators.

  • atozet

    Freedom of speech is not totally free. Celdran can voice his opinion at Luneta park but not inside a holy place. Why do think there is such a thing as slander? It also pertains about speech.

  • QQU

    “I am not authorized to give a statement. I might get sanctioned. Please take pity on me,” Cerbo told reporters.

    “Please take pity on me.” What a decrepit dramatic character!  Do we have more of this character in the RP religious hierarchy?

  • pinoy_astig

    lol FREEDOM OF SPEECH daw  i kung ganun bakit marming kinakasuhan ng LIBEL….lol…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3FJHPQ5EVM7JEYPRXGZL2SPT4 Catherine

    Celdran can protest anytime time of the day and anywhere except inside the church while the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass was ongoing. Can he do that inside a Muslim Mosque? I don’t think so. Maybe he thought the Catholic Church will not harm him, and thinking he will become a byword and instant celebrity and that what he got, but he never consider that he hurt the feelings of millions of Catholic faithful who understand their Catholic faith. 

  • fromuniversityofthephilippines

         The leading case
    in “offending religious feelings” is People vs. Jose Baes,1939, but
    even in said case, the justices, the fiscal, the lower courts, were all divided
    on the matter, read more by typing in Google search: CARLOS CELDRAN CASE. BUT

    • $20722540

      2013 na po

  • dodong1

    DAMASO’S are clearly in Power in the Philippines..but that should not stop anyone to voice their opinion against the manipulation and brainwashing that they are doing to the Pilipino People…intervening on the RH Bill which they just passed and now want to intervene on the divorce bill that they are planning to submit…how about some of their fellow priests involved on child molestation cases shouldn’t they be in jail also??

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

      ihabla mo kung may ibidinsya ka..tyak kulong yan…

    • spider69

      ask your self kung bakit dumarami ang sumasapi sa ibang sekta like El Shadai or JIL and the like. kasi nagigising na ang mga Pinoy sa katotohanan. But they still believe, naniniwala sa kapangyarihan ng Diyos Ama.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza


    • $20722540

      magmula nong tinawag kitang satanas palaging mo nayang ginagamit yong word na yan ha!!! so ikaw na ngayon ang hari ng mga satanas

    • speaksoftlylove

      Dalhin mo sa repair shop yang computer mo at sira ang caps lock. O baka kinapitan ng virus ng laway sa kadaldalan mo.

    • diamond_digger

      Those popish priests and bishops must have thought they are greater than former US President Bush who was thrown a shoe by an angry reporter in Baghdad sometime ago. Bush, despite his world stature just downplayed the incident unlike the priests and bishops who, for a much-lesser attack made a great fuzz over it. They must have thought that the Philippines is still under Spain. Another thing, why is it that when these priests and bishops declared their opposition to the RH bill, they even organized rallies and to some extent incite the people to go against the government for its push of the said bill? It may be high time for lawmakers to make a difinite stand on the separation of church and state. The church which has shown its belligerence and contempt against the state from which it enjoys all its perks tax-free should not be allowed to continue its arrogance. It’s high time to call a spade a spade. They should be treated just like ordinary person or entity.

      I call on our lawmakers to really stand for the people they are supposed to serve and not become subservient to these people who threatens politicians not just damnation of their souls but also of their political existence by wielding their supposed moral influence to sway the people’s votes from their perceived enemies. Let us all rise in defense of our freedom for whom our forebears like Rizal, Bonifacio and others have gallantly fought and even laid down their lives for.

  • http://pedestrianobserver.blogspot.com/ Political Jaywalker

    Is this the same Catholiban henchman errrr judge who convicted Carlos Celdran for the “crime of Offending Religious Feelings”?

    Congratulations Philippines! We are now officially in the same league and gutter level of the Talibani kind.

    If this is the same guilty judge, what is he still doing presiding court cases when he was found guilty also? Below is the verdict handed down by the SC:

    “ACCORDINGLY, the Court finds respondent Judge Juan O. Bermejo, Jr., of Branch 3 of the Metropolitan trial Court of Manila guilty of delay in the rendition of judgment in violation of Rules 1.02 and 3.05 of the Code of Judicial Conduct for which he is fined the amount of P5,000.00. Respondent Judge is also declared guilty of impropriety in violation of Canon 2 of said Code and is fined the amount of P10,000.00.”

    • $20722540

      bakit hindi siya magprotesta mag-isa sa luneta kong gusto niyang magprotesta…ang isang simbahna ay matahimik na lugar at hindi para magprotesta ang isang tao lamag lalo ay hindi naman siya sumasamba.  gusto mag riot doon and lahat ng gusto protesta tungkol sa pag-taas ng ma=ga bilihin, bamabang suweldo, corruption sa gibierno, etc etc

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        nasobrahan kc sa right at freedom nya kaya abuso 2loy ung kinalabasan..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

      If we are now officially in the same leave and gutter level of the Talibani kind as you assert, why is it that the RH bill became a law!!!  We are too far from the Talibans.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FPVUYCML46QCAJM5N2O4GNID24 tony

    Onli in da pilipins – DOUBLE STANDARD!. priests rape young men and women and not one of them is convicted much less imprisoned. Then here you have Celdran simply stating one undeniable truth about how most of today’s priests are like damaso of the spanish colonial times and whadayano, a judge (judge bejo) sentences him to prison! I hope judge bejo is NOT a UP alum otherwise I spit on him and his family!

    • $20722540

      you are diverting the issue.  the article is about an individual making a fool of himself like a person with a kulang kulang mind doing a protest in front of a congregation who has nothing to do with him and they are inside the church to pray.  he can protest to his heart delight in luneta if you will – no one will care…kulang lang siya sa attention kasi siguro walang trabaho and projects

  • us_sixtycents

    Looking at the photo, I think his new bf is waiting. It’s going to be a fun summer!

  • $20722540

    buti nga sayo celdran…wala ka na siguro project kaya nagaattract ng attention

    • hustlergalore

      nyak. lumalabas siya sa mga travel shows ng mga banyaga as tourist guide. LOL

  • Touch_Me_, Nuts!

    Normally I will side with the weak but not stupid. In this
    case, Celdran was not both and so Celdran deserves his verdict. The Human Rights
    Watch and Celdran got their concept of human rights in this case mixed up.  An asserted freedom stops being one when the
    very same freedom that’s asserted is used to curtail the freedom of others.
    Celdran was stupid to have asserted his freedom at the wrong place. What is a wrong
    place? The church sanctuary and in the face of the faithful was the wrong place for
    Celdran to have exercised his asserted freedom.  Celdran is sharp enough to realize that he can
    still go to heaven although he has to detour first to the local jailer. Celdran
    won’t be an exception for many had actually made it to heaven after they had
    been chained by men. Celdran will have enough time to talk to himself in
    prison, and hopefully come out a better man. I just wish Celdran could stay longer in
    jail so that I can see him in his cell on my next vacation. It might be a good
    experience sharing a good wine with him with the jail guard as a willing

    • catmanjohn

      Too many creeps like you in the Catholic Church, hiding your demented and perverse existence behind the sanctity of religion. You and Ant Dick Adam must have been molested by the same Catholic priest. What a Satanic bunch you are.

      • Touch_Me_, Nuts!

        Another misplaced anger; angry at something they don’t
        know about.

        That’s OK. You must be an old man. Old men are like fine
        wine, a crooner once sang.  As they get
        older, they become crisp and sharper. Are you really sharp, big boy?

      • catmanjohn

        What a queer creep… your name says it all. What is important is that the People throw off the shackles of guilt and repression, which the Catholic Church masterfully cloaks over the People’s ability to see clearly, that the freedom of choice comes with certain responsibility, (unlike the Church who wants everyone to follow obediently), and that unrealistic expectations of false piety creates obstacles in achieving individual progress, especially in one’s ability to get out of poverty.

      • Touch_Me_, Nuts!

        Here comes a street urchin swaying like a raving mad dog.
        You can’t even focus staying on the issue. Is that what they teach you at the
        obedience school? You have gone too far, and the main topic was forgotten. Too
        much ranting won’t help you. Keep your limbs together, and don’t speak like the
        Fuhrer. Don’t embarrass your tribe.

      • catmanjohn

        I have No tribe, nor do I care to have one. My loyalty is to God, Truth (In the name of Jesus our Savior), Mother Earth, and the good in humanity. I have stooped low enough to dignify your comments with a response, but conviction compels me to get the last word in.

      • Touch_Me_, Nuts!

        You appear to be a very proud man. Humility does not appear
        to be one of your virtues. Your irascible temper equates with your sanctimony.
        You need to reassess yourself during your quite time. You’ll make a good duo
        with Celdran as he now can reassess his options well. Why do you have to have
        the last word? Your conviction to be proud is compelling you? Play the judo
        principle you will feel better, big boy!  

  • catmanjohn

    Hail to Carlos Celdran, who had the courage and conviction to express the truth, with freedom, however inappropriate the situation may have been, should not warrant a prison sentence. Perhaps community service teaching poor children would be true justice. His actions could not have really hurt anyone, just as name calling is a norm by todays argumentative political standards. Once again the hypocrisy of the Catholic Church is exposed as their bishops and cardinals have colluded support for the most corrupt and vile politicians, like Gloria Arroyo. Shame on them. We are with you Carlos.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

      bka hell, d kaya?..igalang din kc ung iba..porke’t may right ka, aabusuhin mo

      • catmanjohn

        Arroyo  a$$ wipes don’t even have the sense to have a clean working toilet in the entire city of Manila, so don’t get too self righteous.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave


      • catmanjohn

        Show me an honest Arroyo supporting politician, and I will show you a clean working toilet in Manila… hahaha

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        haha..ano nman kinalaman ko kay arroyo mo?sayong sayo na un…hehe..

    • Touch_Me_, Nuts!

      Join Celdran inside his cell. He might need some of your good rubbing. Who knows, you might find your niche in the palmate trade.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

    All of us have the right to take a stand in any socio-political issues and freely express them, but we do not have the right to barge into any place at anytime we want and start blurting out our advocacies just because of this freedom of expression.

    Again, let me not be construed wrongly, I am not saying that Celdran’s stand is right or wrong, but he has stepped on the rights of others, by disrupting a religious service in the Church.

    • catmanjohn

      Wrong! If the Catholic church uses its pulpit to espouse their anti RH policies, which is a violation in principles of separation of the Church and State, then their pulpits are fare game to express other political and social Truths that just may be as valid. There was no desecration against God or Christ, but policies that the Church supported that were political in nature.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

        I’ll give you an analogous situation: if I use my house to be a headquarter of people with the same advocacies that I believe in,  and there I openly promote my opinions and personal beliefs, does that mean that those who are directly opposed to my advocacy can also use my own house to blurt out their contrary opinion?

        If I will be following your reasoning, I would suggest that Celdran should form his own religion, and  use the pulpit of the religion he established to promote his beliefs.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

        I’ll give you an analogous situation: if I use my house to be a headquarter of people with the same advocacies that I believe in,  and there I openly promote my opinions and personal beliefs, does that mean that those who are directly opposed to my advocacy can also use my own house to blurt out their contrary opinion?
        If I will be following your reasoning, I would suggest that Celdran should form his own religion, and  use the pulpit of the religion he established to promote his beliefs.

  • w33k3nd3r

    CBCP should be careful… their clergy men could be torn into pieces by angry non religious and free minded mobs who are tired of the old archaic ways that the Spanish friars used to suppress us from our freedom,

    I can imagine it now– hypocrite priests beaten down to a pulp one by one. It’s as satisfying as seeing Joffrey, the mad king in the Game of Thrones being slapped again and again.

    I’m so glad I don’t go to Church anymore.

    • isellnuts

       Its not about the priests, its about what Celdran did and unfortunately there is a law that punishes his actions.

    • maximus commentus

      CALLING ALL FELLOW CATHOLICS…. listen to w33k3nd3r, the enlightened one… he’s figured everything out by skipping church and just watching this TV series “The Game of Thrones.”

      Who would’ve known, religion is a waste of time, TV violence is the answer to everything… Thank you oh great w33k3nd3r for teaching us your ways.


  • isellnuts

    there is law that penalizes the inappropriate action of Celdran. He must suffer the consequences.

  • hustlergalore

    rh bill proponents are also guilty of “offending religious feelings.”


    in fairness, napa-wow talaga ako nung binandera mo ang padre damaso poster sa pagmumukha ng mga bulaang propeta na nakasaya.

  • bogli_anakdami

    WHAT IF celdran gives 10+% tithe to padre dumbasso?… abswelto sya, di ba?

    in flipland, if you’re one of the “LORDS, ie durog/drug lords, jueteng lords, lord traposakals, lordy-lord”, meron kang “pri ispits”…

  • Beguine

    Isn’t forgiveness and possessing a forgiving heart right
    in the heart and centre of our Lord Jesus Christ’s teachings, if not
    of the high and mighty Roman Catholic Church?

    The Pinas Catholic Church should have magnanimously forgiven
    this somewhat humorous “Padre Damaso” trespasser, as 
    a sign that the Catholic Church is forgiving and welcomes 
    criticism and strong views, indeed comical rabid protest, opposed to its dogma 
    and that should have been the end of it.

    Instead we’re now quite likely to see this whole charade
    go all the way to the higher courts and maybe the Supreme
    Court itself. 

    What a farce. Or just another rich (Catholic hierarchy) vs. poor
    (“Padre Damaso” critic) confrontation which should never have
    gone this far and now must go even farther and farther.
    A quaint and ludicrous Guinness book item if ever there was one! 

    • bogli_anakdami

      jchrist abandoned flipland long time ago… flips are pekeng katolikos….

  • hustlergalore

    maaari na bang ihanay si celdran kay rizal on “offending religious feelings?”


    mabuti ngayon, kulong lang.

    noon, pinapabaril sa luneta.


  • boytz

    Is the lady justice anti or pro RH? If pro RH, hats off to her judgment. If anti RH, could she have peeped behind her blindfold? If she did not, kudos to her.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NIHSGQRLMFSZVA42LTJWDW5VQ4 rosenda

    Subukan mong gawin yan sa mosque at baka napugutan ka kaagad ng ulo.  Walang nagbabawal sa iyo na iboses mo ang opinion mo pero pumili ka ng lugar. Hindi ka lang ang may karapatan, may karapatan din ang mga taong naisturbo mo at nasaktan mo sa ginawa mo.  HIndi porke may  karapatan ka ay lahat pwede mong gawin. Hindi ka lang ang tao sa mundo.

  • joerizal

    Celdran is a fool. He got his 15 minutes of fame and he should pay for it. You don’t enter someone’s backyard to sh*t in it,
    especially in front of the owner. You do it outside and throw your sh*t
    What he did was unlawful and unethical and he should man up and do his
    time in prison. There is no defending his actions even if the Church was
    not in its right mind either. 

    • bogli_anakdami

      flips are a bigger fool, believing kaksaker padre dumbasso will deliver them from heaven…

  • AlexanderAmproz

    Once more the Clergy is showing his backwardness to hide a mountain of Damaso crimes,

    Children’s molestation industry, ivory smuggling, envelops, Pajeros collection, Churches icons 

    robbery and uncountable other abuses.

    The Philippines Clergy is a human shame, probably the last Inquisition spirit still existing,

    The World main Priesthood shame

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

      We Filipinos  are reasonable people, people with laws and not people of the jungle.  If you have proofs of your allegations, by all means,  the clergy concerned must be held answerable to the law.  I will you support you on that.  But the issue at hand is not about the Damaso crimes (let me borrow your expression), but the rightness or wrongness, the legality or illegality of disrupting a religious service regardless of whether it is Catholic, Christian, Protestant, Iglesia ni Cristo, Christian fellowship groups or Moslems.

    • maximus commentus

      Alexander, your allegations are all wrong just like your grammar. If you don’t like the Catholic Church, then just shut up and be happy with your own religion. Mind your own business and respect beliefs other than yours.

      • AlexanderAmproz




        Who are you trying to fool, XVI century man, Inquisition is gone since long time.


        Only da Philippines

  • $8278216

    Pabor ako na mabigyan ng naaayong kaparusahan si g. Celdran ,nararapat lamang na lumabas ang kagaya nya upang ipamalita ang pakiki-alam ng mga INDIYONG PARE na pabor sa mga maling pamamalakad na ipinamana sa kanila ng mga DAMASOng Katsila(sa Ilonggo)ipa-alam din sa buong masang pilipino kung ano ang ginawa ng mga DAMASO sa tuwing mangumpisal ang mga indiyo(pinoy) na sila ay isang insuriktos at sila mismo ang magkakanulo sa guwardya sibil, sila ang mga tunay na TUTA ng mga ito magpahanggang sa ngayon kagaya ng pakiki alam nila sa pag papatakbo ng gobyerno,. Isa ito sa mga dahilan kung baket humiwalay si PADRE FRANCISCO AGLIPAY SA KATOLICO at magtayo ng sarili nya AT tinawag sa ngayon na PHILIPPINE INDENPENDENT CHURCH O AGLIPAY SA TAGALOG. Para sa aking pananaw wala na silang kasagraduhan, baket hinde nila punahin ang kanilang mga kamalian na ginagawa sa panahon ngayon, ginagamit nila ang relihiyon upang magtayo ng eksklosibong eskwilahan na mayayaman lamang ang nakaka pag aral, hinde kayo para sa karamihan bagkos isa kayong sindikato na nagtatago sa balat ng isang tupa upang GAMITIN ang mga taong buong pusong nanampalataya sa DIYOS, walang malasakit sa kinabukasan ng mamayan ang karamihan sa alagad ng diyos kung tawagin.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H4PIIBVQK4BSXMIKFRWWAAQAUY Heartrob ng Pugad Baboy

    The church and the state collaborating to oppress the people.  Where have I read this before?
    Unfortunate, Celdran, in the eyes of the law, he did something wrong.  

    Going to jail will actually do wonders for his cause.  

  • chemist45

    To the Human Rights Watch: sa labas ng simbahan, pwede kang mag reklamo to the top of your voice but not inside a solemn mass celebration. Di ba may rights naman ang nasa loob?

  • txtman

    >>>>>>>>>> STUPID PEOPLE READ THIS <<<<<<<<<<<<<







            THE GOVERNMENT..












    • lucidlynx

      Excuse me! Freedom of speech is absolute. If there are laws that contradict this, freedom of speech is still supreme. The only law that has teeth over freedom of speech is libel and for that you have to prove in court that what is being said is false.

      • pangilenio


  • wehd1nga

    “RESPECT” Carlos respect, kung hindi ka tinuruan ng nanay mo sa oblo tuturuan ka ng mga preso na mag respeto sa kapwa mo, magbaon ka na rin ng marami bote ng petroleum jelly para di mahirapan nagasgas ang pwet mo.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FLJTDAJBXYODZXD5KAK76UT73Q Nerraw

    Sana ginawa nya yan sa ibang sambahan halimbawa sa loob mg mosque, habang nagdadasal mga kapatid natin. ewan kolang kung makalabas..i wish nandoon ako ng ginawa nya yun para deritso na kumpisal sa magagawa ko sa mokong na Celdran na ito…

    • bogli_anakdami

      are muklos involved in rh thingy???

  • boy_pogi

    I dare Carlos Celdran try to to do what he did inside of a catholic church inside of a moslem mosque. Let us see kung hanggang saan ang kanyang freedom of expression..

    • bogli_anakdami

      are muklos involve in rh thingy?…

    • lucidlynx

      You’re just saying Catholicism is the same as Islam. I thought catholics are more tolerant.

  • bogli_anakdami

    celdran is guilty as charge – ipako sa krus yan…

    crucifixtion will take place sa biyernes santo..

    the place of crucifixtion is to be determined…ringside tickets will be on sale in kaksaker padre dumbasso’s confessionals… pay per view is avail upon request – globe, bayantel…

    for planning purposes, mga sponsor, we’ll have preyer oooopsie prayer breakfast dito sa shang-ri la, makati…

    • lucidlynx

      You live in the olden times.

      • bogli_anakdami

        flipland is stuck in the medieval age… flips still live under that era… 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S2UQGGNN35EUOBNX4N5OBIBDUM Kromuel

    So can we bardge in to Mosques and do the same, because we believe we are right and they are not?, Well why I haven’t heard any ‘free willed’ person do that as of late? Bravery due to tolerance?

    • bogli_anakdami

      are the muklos involve in rh thingy?…

      muklos have harem… they do not give a sh!t about how many palamunins/pulubis they produce…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S2UQGGNN35EUOBNX4N5OBIBDUM Kromuel

        I am pro Rh bill, it is not the issue here. It only shows your level of understanding.

      • bogli_anakdami

        flip gunggongs bring the mosque vs rc church into the conversation… 

        do you understand that?

    • lucidlynx

      So are you liking Catholicism now to Islam? Might as well be without if they are just the same.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S2UQGGNN35EUOBNX4N5OBIBDUM Kromuel

        I am liking respect to all religions in their places of worship.

      • bogli_anakdami

        celdran was in the rc church because kaksaker padre dumbasso’s involvement in the rh bill..

        it’s not about places of worship… gets mo na?

  • lucidlynx

    So should we ban Noli Me Tangere now? More than a hundred years after Rizal, we haven’t learned our lesson and still get fooled by the Catholic church if they don’t like what we say.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S2UQGGNN35EUOBNX4N5OBIBDUM Kromuel

      Not necessary, nobody wants to read it unless forced by the collegiate professors.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

      The issue at hand is not what Celdran said, but the problem was, he did in the wrong place and time. Gets mo!

  • piggywig70

    Celdran violated sacred ground. Why doesn’t he hold a sign that says “Terrorist” and disrupt prayers at a mosque? Let’s see if he is so bold and brave as he claims to be. His defenders–those who have been alienated by the Catholic Church because the church hasn’t kowtowed to their wishes, like divorce and same sex marriage, forget that Celdran entered a place of worship. They say it is public domain. It isn’t. It is the House of God. Christ cast out the gamblers and merchants from the temple. While He took on the pharisees in the temple, He wasn’t a mere tour guide or performance artist, He was God. Celdran should sashay along Ayala Ave, in his costume and spout invectives for all we care. He would come across more like Sisa than any friar in the Rizal novels.

  • maximus commentus

    Disturbing religious services is a crime even in non-religious USA… even in sin state Nevada – there’s a law against this – NRS 201.270. It’s up to 6 months in jail and $1000 fine.

    It is in the same lines as disturbing the peace in a public place.

    That guy’s a joke and just wants attention. In my opinion, he should be put in jail for the maximum term to deter copycats.

  • lucidlynx

    Karamihan ng kumento dito mga maka-lumang pananaw, hindi progresibo, at hindi malayang kaisipan ng isang indibidwal. Kaya hindi aasenso ang Pilipinas kahit anong gawin ni Pnoy. Ang mga tao ay madaling lokohin ng simbahan man o mga politiko o gobiyerno.

    I don’t think the Philippines will progress in the next 10, 20 years. It will take much longer.

    Isama na rin ang media at press sa mga manloloko.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S2UQGGNN35EUOBNX4N5OBIBDUM Kromuel

      Erap won as president and without Cory MAgic could have won again, what more evidence do you need.

  • maximus commentus

    That guy thinks it’s still the 1800s. Wake Up Dude. There are no more Spanish priests in the Philippines discriminating against Filipinos. Rizal would have been happy with the Catholic Church of today.

    I think he just wants to wear costumes. He actually looks more like Damaso than Rizal.

  • catmanjohn

    As long as the Catholic Church uses it pulpits to espouse and further their political and social agenda, such as their anti RH Bill, then these same pulpits should no longer be protected under the sanctity of ‘religion’, where it should be fare game to the expression of other political and social Truths.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

      I’ll give you an analogous situation: if I use my house to be a headquarter of people with the same advocacies that I believe in,  and there I openly promote my opinions and personal beliefs, does that mean that those who are directly opposed to my advocacy can also use my own house to blurt out their contrary opinion?
      If I will be following your reasoning, I would suggest that Celdran should form his own religion, and  use the pulpit of the religion he established to promote his beliefs.

      • maximus commentus

        well said Mat. Catmanjohn makes no sense.

  • eirons1043

    The decision is LEGAL (there is that word again) like the disbursements of MOOE by Juanito Furuganan and his Chief of Staff na me asim pa.  It is also legal for the church(including Ateneo, La Salle, Assumption, St. Paul, UST etc.) not to pay taxes.  It is also legal for Damasos to tsupa little boys basta walang papalag and also it is also legal for the Damasos to buntis women basta sikereto. It is als legal to accept SUVs as requested gifts. It is also legal to say “everybody cheats in the election anyway in the Hello Garci episode” and it is also legal to have a marathon waltz with the conjugal dictatorship and stopped only when Ninoy was murdered. Anyway it is also LEGAL for Carlos to appeal and if the tradition of longevity is followed it will be decided by the SC by year 2032 or longer. But I maybe wrong coz the criminal case of Celdran was decided in only about a year and it is a very fast one. The judge should be investigated as I am sure there are thousand of cases in his sala that are more than 10 years old but no decision. Paging the Ombudsman.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

      The issue at hand is the rightness or wrongness of disrupting a religious service, whether it is Catholic, Christian, Moslem, Protestant religious service!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZS723M7OQL5GJ43IEJMJUDDIY hanep

    maximus commentus…..your  post  is sorta like  coitus interruptus.  You don’t
    get  it.  Mr.  Celdran  is doing  a  parody and  a satirical  comment  and
    expression  against  the Catholic  Church’s  hypocrisy.

    True, there’s hardly any  Spanish  friars  abusing  the  Pinoys  but  it’s worse
    now  because we have the brainwashed Pinoy  Damasos  who  are  doing    
    the abusing  and suppressing  liberties  and  freedom  of expressiion. 

    These  Pinoy  Damasos  are  still  living  in the dark  ages.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

      the issue here is not the freedom of expression, but propriety.  Celdran dit it in the wrong place and time.


    How would it be if the act was done inside a mosque. Lucky for him that Christians offers the other cheek to be slapped one more time. How it would be if one enters a house then called the grand father DOM (Dirty old man). Can he be allowed to claim “freedom of speech” inside another mans house?. The grand children themselves will not call grandfather DOM how much more is a stranger inside a house. Let the law of men decide for the law of faithfuls is forgiveness.

  • kismaytami

    church “should stop getting involved” in politics. Super agree!

    Perwisyo rin itong mga relihiyon na ito sa, yung simbahan ni damaso dito sa amin, alas 4:00 pa lang nang umaga, kumakalembang na ang mga bells, pag-dating ng 5:00 AM, yung megaphone naman sa mosque, at tuwing weekend naman yung mga burn again at pentecost, rakrakan mula bukang liwayway hanggang hatinggabi. Wala silang pakialam kung natutulog pa yung mga kapitbahay nila, basta nagagawa nila yung gusto nila! I’m not a fan of iglesia ni cristo, pero mukhang sila lang ang disiplinado pagdating sa arkitektura ng mga bahay sambahan.

  • gusm

    It is only in this country where a person can go to jail for telling the truth.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

      Celdran goes to jail, not because he told the truth, but because he did it in the wrong place and time!

  • AlexanderAmproz

    I love Celdran, 

    every single Pinoy who has balls should do the same to show how happy they are to put an end to the Damaso kingdom, 450 years of abuses is more than enough !

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

      Have you done it?


    The act of Celdran demonstrate the true nature of Rizal. Yet Rizal was enforced to be the national hero of hoodwink Filipinos. Let Celdran roam free. All Christian stand firm in your belief in offering the other cheek to be slapped. Jesus will justify us all. No Christian shall bring Celdran to court. Christian faith will remain with us.

  • just_anotherperson

    Bagay kay Celdran ang nasa likod ng rehas.

    Ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

  • http://twitter.com/erncastillo ern

    I believe in your cause Celdran, but you really did something in bad taste. It was like spitting on the face of your mother. Never mind if she is wrong….never do that.

    To attack the teachings of a church is not bad per se. But choose the place, the time, and your audience. How can you convince people to your side? You are driving out and attacking the very people that you want to save.

  • Teresita Sy


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