‘Soldiers fired in the air’

Army colonel insists it was an encounter

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“For the military it was an encounter,” Army Lt. Col. Monico Abang on Friday said, describing what happened at a police checkpoint in Atimonan, Quezon province, where 13 alleged criminals were killed in a supposed shootout with government security forces on Jan. 6.

Abang, commander of the Army’s First Special Forces Battalion, led the troops who augmented the police team led by Supt. Hansel Marantan at a checkpoint along Maharlika Highway in Atimonan.

Abang said that contrary to Thursday’s reenactment of the supposed shootout, which was based on the testimony of two eyewitnesses, his men fired only “warning shots” during the operation.

“They fired in the air,” he said.

“It was necessary,” he said. “Shooting had started so we fired warning shots,” Abang said in English and Filipino.

For Maj. Gen. Alan Luga, the commander of the military in Southern Luzon, however, what happened was a shootout and he was going by what Abang and the soldiers involved had told him.

“I stand by what my battalion commander said,” Luga on Friday said, referring to Abang’s statements. “That’s what he and the soldiers told me—they were fired at first, that’s why they retaliated,” he said in Filipino.

 

Soldiers consistent

Luga said that according to Abang, what happened was a shootout between the government security forces and the men in two vehicles.

“All the soldiers were consistent in their statement that it was a shootout because they were fired at first and then they fired back,” Luga said.

“As the commander, I inquired from the soldiers and that’s what they said,” he said.

Justice Secretary Leila de Lima, quoting testimony from two witnesses who had seen the supposed gun battle, told reporters on Thursday that what happened was not a shootout.

But De Lima did not describe what happened, saying the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) was digging deeper to find out.

Abang spoke to reporters at NBI headquarters in Manila after turning to the investigators the firearms used by the Army troops who backed up Marantan’s team at the checkpoint.

He said he did not agree with some parts of the reenactment, although he did not say which parts those were.

Abang said he never saw the cargo truck where the two witnesses supposedly were throughout the incident.

He said he was in a vehicle positioned near the second of three checkpoints along Maharlika Highway when the shooting happened.

Abang confirmed that a military truck blocked the road when the two vehicles carrying the alleged criminals tried to crash the second checkpoint.

He described the shooting as “spontaneous” and said he saw Marantan hit, fall, and carried away from the area.

The Army submitted only 15 rifles to the NBI because 10 of the soldiers who were called in to support Marantan’s team remained in the Atimonan police station, Abang said.

Submitted for examination were M14 and M16 rifles and a .45-caliber 1911 pistol.

In good faith

The new military chief, Lt. Gen. Emmanuel Bautista, on Friday said the soldiers who were called in as an “augmentation force” for the police team at the checkpoint went there “in good faith.”

“That was what they (the troops) told me. They went there in good faith,” Bautista said.

Bautista was the Philippine Army commander when the supposed shootout happened. He assumed office as chief of staff of the military on Thursday.

He said the military was reviewing the procedures followed when the Philippine National Police (PNP) asks for help in law enforcement.

Counter witness

Crisanto Buela, the soldiers’ lawyer, told a news conference that the military has a witness who will contradict the statements of the government’s witnesses.

Buela said the military’s witness would testify that what happened in Atimonan was a shootout.

In a phone interview on Friday, Buela denied De Lima’s statement on Thursday that a soldier was one of those who shot environmentalist Tirso Lontok Jr. at the checkpoint.

Quoting the testimony of the two witnesses, De Lima said Lontok and another man got off the second vehicle with their hands raised, but “a uniformed soldier with a rifle and a civilian with a handgun” shot the two men.

“The testimonies of the witnesses are not true. There were no soldiers near the vehicle. The checkpoint was being manned by policemen because it was a police operation,” Buela said.

Buela said the soldiers from the First Special Forces Battalion were posted some distance away from the checkpoint because they were only acting as a support group to the policemen.

“The cops were the ones who flagged down the vehicles and not one of the soldiers,” Buela said.

Sole target

Buela said the checkpoint was a legitimate police operation against the 13 men killed at the checkpoint.

One of those killed was Victor “Vic” Siman, alleged operator of the numbers racket “jueteng” in Southern Luzon and the sole target of “Coplan Armado,” the police operation that led to what Quezon police reported was a shootout.

The 12 others who were killed, including Lontok, were not listed as targets of Coplan Armado.

Lontok was hit 14 times. His body was found in a roadside ditch by crime scene investigators.

De Lima’s statement “only confirmed our theory that what had happened was not a shootout but a massacre,” said Ariel Saliva, a cousin of Lontok’s. “Kuya Jun and his company were mercilessly killed. We demand justice for all of them.”

Col. Donato San Juan, commander of the Special Forces Regiment, said Siman’s group fired first.

“We are also waiting for the result of the NBI investigation. I think it is very important to establish who fired first,” San Juan said.

 

Marantan gives up gun

Marantan, who drew up Coplan Armado, made himself scarce to investigators for several days. But on Friday, NBI doctors got to examine Marantan’s supposed gunshot wounds at St. Luke’s Medical Center.

Danielito Lalucis, head of the NBI Death Investigation Division, said Marantan surrendered his 9 mm Glock pistol and 17 rounds of ammunition.

NBI ballistician Jasmine Abarrientos said the firearm would be subjected to tests.

She said investigators could tell when the pistol was last fired through chemical analysis.

Lalucis said Marantan promised to submit to investigators a statement on the Atimonan incident.

Lalucis said St. Luke’s doctors turned over to the NBI the slug supposedly extracted from Marantan’s knee.

Forensic investigators were examining the slug, Lalucis said.

PAOCC funding

The Presidential Anti-Organized Crime Commission (PAOCC) disapproved Coplan Armado, which had been submitted to it for approval and funding in November last year.

But when he appeared at the NBI on Friday, Chief Supt. Reginald Villasanta, PAOCC executive director, inadvertently confirmed the statement of Chief Supt. James Melad, the sacked chief of the Calabarzon police, that the commission had given Marantan P100,000 in funding for the operation.

In a statement, Villasanta said he had formally told the NBI that the PAOCC did not approve the coplan.

“We at the PAOCC, through a board resolution, did not approve Case Operation Plan Armado . . . submitted by Supt. Hansel Marantan, Supt. Glenn Dumlao and Chief Supt. James Melad,” Villasanta said.

Money for intel only

But the same resolution authorized the release of money to Marantan’s team.

“Among the directives of the resolution was the release of P100,000 to Marantan’s group to help them in building an airtight case against their targets,” Villasanta said in the statement.

He explained that the money was intended for gathering information to back up the proposed police operation.

Villasanta clarified that the money released to the proponents was “only for intelligence purposes; it was not intended for operations.” With a report from Delfin T. Mallari, Inquirer Southern Luzon

 

 First posted 12:01 am | Saturday, January 19th, 2013

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  • TinimbangNgunitKulang

    That explains it. The soldiers were really just poor marksmen that when they fired in the air, the 13 were killed by their stray bullets. Case closed.

    • batangpaslit

      hehehe…
      Tsong, mali observation mo na di sila marksmen. Kung tama theory mo na paitaas ang putok nila at natamaan ang labing tatlo sa nahuhulog na bala it means they are extremely good how to position the muzzles of their guns for the right trajectory.

    • 12JEM

      Lt Col Abang…Nakaabang na kayo

      Umaatikabong putukan na, bakit kailangan pa ang warning shots?

      KAYA MALAMANG MALI ANG IYONG STATEMENT.

      Ang reverberations of your UNBELIEVABLE Statement malamang di marinig ni Maj Gen Luga.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XJ6M3EEK5LGN77YOMKJHBCXF7Q jeronimo

    Dami ng witness…. Hehehehehehehehe

  • tata_boy

    Kaya naman mabaho ang naamoy ko rito eh may luga pala iyong namumuno, kasama ba iyong luga at abang sa chain of command?

    • D_BystandeR

      I remember a name of a General during martial law who carried the same name with that Major General Luga. Maybe he is the son or a relative of the old Luga, and he was so notorious during that time especially that during martial law it was the “barrel of the gun” that reigned supreme.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4R3GZTGML26TV2VGS6RVHP2THM Fred

    Talagang pinangatawan na ng Army na shootout ang nangyari.
    Sana may isang sundalo na makonsyensya at magsabi ng tutoo.

    • Carlos_Iho

      Sanay na mga yan na di nagsasabi ng totoo.  Pinag isipan muna ng matagal at nagkaisa sa statements nila.  Na war shock siguro kaya di nakapagsalita kaagad.  Ang hirap kasi ng pinagdaanan nilang labanan.

    • eirons1043

      hehehe remember the ninoy escorts nagsitanda na lahat ng hindi umaamin at si Angelo Reyes pinili pa ang magpakamatay kesa umamin. ganiyan katatag ang samahan sa army at siguro pati na din sa pulis lalo ng kung big time money ang dahilan. dapat merong research kung paano nabuhay ang pamilya nuong mga escort ni ninoy na nakulong at kung gaano kayaman ngayon ang angkan ni angelo reyes.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PJTH3SHQU3B4TCUVRH2UXZCJDY Balahura

    “It was necessary,” he said. “Shooting had started so we fired warning shots,” Abang said in English and Filipino………hindi na applicable ang warning shots if shooting had started ano ka ba? You mean you will fire in the air when the bad guys are shooting you? How come 13 people died, you mean your group is not a part in the rubout? c’mon make the story close to reality!

    • mrgracia

      Brod, mali ang dinig ng reporter sa sinabi ni Abang. Ang sabi ni Abang “WARRING SHOTS”, hindi warning shots. Sa dami ng putok, talo pa ang giyera sa IRAQ at Afghanistan.

    • pelang

       itong mga police at sundalo, hanggang ngayon ay gano’n pa rin ang gawi. akala mo martial law pa rin. bakit nga ba kailangan pa ang mga checkpoints na iyon? nakakatakot talaga dumaan sa mga checkpoints, speaking thru experience. minsan, walang mga tao sa checkpoint tapos biglang susulpot at aakyat sa public trasport (buses plying from manila to visayas), mang-ho-hold-up. NPA kuno. iyon pala mga sundalo na nagpapanggap na mga NPA. sinong NPA ang magbabantay sa PC Checkpoint? At itong mga PC Officials, naniniwala sa mga tao nila. kasabwat kasi.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUDXSLGDJSVES3MAZKXXMXJXXM Ratzkey

    LIES MORE LIES!!

  • barako22

    kung bibilangin yun basyo ng bala sa tama ng bala sa dalawang sasakyan at paligid ng pinangyarihan ng barilan para malaman kung  nag warning shot ang mga murderer na ito sa ere…palagay ko ang matitirang bala na walang tinamaan ay ang balang ibinaril ni marantan sa sarili nya 

  • duviz7533

    who ask the army to be at the police checkpoint?parang may rebels na aatack kaya sa check point so the polce ask for assistance….check point kasi sa highway may pagkakakitaan,when I was still in the Philippines drove our own truck and we transport grains from region 2 to bulacan rice mills. you need to drop 5 pesos in a tabo in every checkpoint with or without violation

    • TEAM PNOY

      You are very lucky po. Just 5 pesos before. Now, farmers have to drop 100 to 500 peso bills in a tabo in every checkpoint. 100 without violation and 500 with violation.

      • duviz7533

        so sorry to know that….after 25 years 5 to 500 ang tinaas,wow,masama talaga ang dating ng recession…..little sister, baka pwedeng mamasko kay manong johnny enrile ng bunos ang mga pinoy, nagkakaabotan daw ng datong doon,stay safe.

      • TEAM PNOY

        Pang senador at senadora lang po yong pamasko. Nag-aaway pa sila sa hati-an po. Take care po.

      • D_BystandeR

        Your story is only “peanuts” compared to the present case in Atimonan where a “red bag” supposed to contain P100 million and which was earlier reported not included in the first inventory, now the latest report regarding that, only a “measly sum of P200 thousand was “surrendered or turned over.” Baka nakonsensya na ‘yung iba at ang isinuli ay “loose coins!” Bwahaha!

      • mrgracia

        hindi na kasya sa tabo ang dina-drop ngayon kaya timba na ang gamit ng mga hinayukag. huwag kang magtaka kung bariles na ang makita mo sa susunod na biyahe n’yo…

      • kapayapaan_1900

        You now have a fan.  I enjoyed reading everything you posted.  You have an incredible sense of humor to lighten a horrible news.  Now don’t tell me na hindi na kasya ang isang bote garapang “truth serum” na iturok sa mga ‘yan para magsabi ng katotohanan kundi isang Dama Juana na.  Sumakit ang tiyan ko sa katatawa lalo na sa LINYANG “linisin mo muna ang tenga mo”.  LOL.LOL..LOL….   

      • Edward Castro

        kailan ba yun? kasi nung bata pako 10 centavos lang ang isang bote ng pepsi na 8oz. pamasahe sa san fernando to manila ay piso lang. kaya ang 5pesos nayun ay malaki na

  • ryan andres

    Laglagan na!

    • batangpaslit

      nagka bulilyaso eh…wala nang aamin. pero, kung walang sabit, kanya-kanyang agawan na nang to whom credence is due
      but for me, personally, i really don’t give a hoot how the economic saboteurs lost their lives.
      but for the innocent ones who were killed, if indeed they are innocent, the government has to compensate the surviving heirs since they got slain from the hands of government functionaries

      • ryan andres

        naku good luck na lang kung ganon ser… kung hanggang ngayon yung mga beneficiaries nung pinatay ng gobyerno ni marcos di pa rin nababayaran ng buo…eto pa kaya na wala pang isang buwan ang lumipas…tsk tsk tsk…

      • batangpaslit

        Ryan, re Marcos’ claim, hindi lang dapat a few ang beneficiaries sa Marcos Wealth.
        Dapat lahat ng mamayang Filipino na naghirap ay makinabang. Except for a few business associates of Pres Marcos, everybody sufferred.
        My lumaban ng barilan, choice nila ‘yon. May lumaban by embracing the communist ideology, choice nila ‘yon.
        Pero marami who silently suffered, hindi lang maingay, silent victims nga kasi, eh.
        Ang mga nag abogado sa mga “naapi” sabi volunteer, sabi pro bono.
        Pero nang na identifiy ang ilang milyong dolyar, sino ang binayaran? Ang abogado!
        Ang “biktima”, saan?
        Wala!
        Ayaw kasi nang mga ungas nating functionaries na tanggapin ang offer na areglo.
        Kung habulin ang yaman ni Marcos, wala silang makuha dahil the Court could only decide in favour of the claimants if the funds’ ownership is confirmed.
        Walang pera sa bangko, o investments that is named under Marcos.
        Bakit nagbabayad ng dividend si Lucio Tan, ang PLDT sa kay First Lady? May mapakita bang kasulatan na ang pag aari ni Lucio Tan o nang PLDT ang 60% ay Marcos?
        So, paano ma confiscate ‘yan?
        Pero kung pumayag sa aregluhan, kahit 60-40 pa ang partida, sa zillion dollars, bayad ang utang ng Pilipinas.
        If you are a mathematician Ryan, how are you going to call a figure with 40 zeroes behind, a monetary amoutn with 37 commas?
        Billion have 9 zeroes. Trillion have 12 zeroes. So, magkano ang pera kung 40 zeroes?
        Sa tutuo, the bank does not pay Interest anymore to these deposits. Rather, it is the “Owner” who pays the bank fees to keep their funds safe.
        Bakit ko alam ito?
        Kung may opportunity na magkilala tayo sa pag balik ko sa Pilipinas, I will tell you.

      • ryan andres

        Sige chief, let me know kung mabisita ka.

  • ryan andres

    Ngayon lang sinubmit ng St. Loot’s yung slug? Bakit ang tagal? Baka nadoktor na yang slug na yan…

    • Bayang_magiliw

      If you think of it, Maratnan is following the script of the Arroyo gangs. Is he protecting the turf of the Arroyos in the Bicol region?

    • 33Sambuang

      sigurado yon dahil marantan tarantado ang pasyente nilang mamamatay tao. pera ng kapatid nya pambayad sa hospital. kapatid na dating madre na naging jueteng lord. pwehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh mahiya kayo.

  • toyota4ever

    ONLY IN THE PHILIPPINES! any sides should not make any comments even secretary of justice not until the NBI the agency task to investigate make it’s final report.

  • TEAM PNOY

    First, it was a shootout.

    Second, it was a rubout.

    Third, it was an ambush.

    and now, the Atimonan 13 died of stray bullets when “soldiers fired in the air.”

    WOW!

  • batangpaslit

    so, the soldiers that augmented the police force fired warning shoots to the van that attempted to crash the barricade
    tapos may pumutok galing sa van at naging ratratan na
    plausible explanation of the Battalion Commander

  • toyota4ever

    ONLY IN THE PHILIPPINES! both sides should not make any comments even secretary of justice not until the NBI task to do the investigation make it’s final report.

  • Love God

    Let us hear both the sides before coming to any conclusion. Let the truth come out as TRUTH.
    Either it was a shoot-out or rub-out or a turf war, police and military officers travelling with an operator of a big time criminal syndicate is highly questionable, worse shocking.
    This is the reason there is no end to criminality in our land. This is the reason we cannot stop the illegal number game.
    This is the reason there is no end to our drug problem. 
    Police, Military and politicians are either involved or act as protectors of this syndicate. Drug caught are recycled, Military sell arms to rebels are just shocking truth we all know.
    Our President, Sec. Roxas and Sec. De Lima are incorruptible and honest leaders but they cannot be doing the ground operation personally every corner of the 7000+ islands.
    We need a moral revolution in which every citizen must be a participant. Then we can say we are free indeed from the clutches of crime and corruption.
    God bless!    

    • Bayang_magiliw

      Amen to that!

  • Carlos_Iho

    “All the soldiers were consistent in their statement…”  Of course they gave consistent lies a long time after the incident has taken place.  Their statements would have been credible if these were given right away.

    They complain that the DOJ did not hear their statements first before giving opinion to the media. The soldiers and their lawyers should have given their statements first prior to NBI and DOJ investigations.

  • okabato

    “Soldiers fired in the air” that’s a big statement of denial that the soldiers participated in the “shootout”. They found no need to shoot at the the two SUVs because the twenty four operatives of the PNP in civvies can do the job.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EA7TIY7PYXEU5UOXG2K5CY5F64 Eric

    tsk tsk tsk.  this is not a good time to fire in the air…..like you just don’t care..
    this story is getting more screwed up by the day.

  • batangsulpok

    Siyempre consistent ang statement ng mga sundalo dahil yan ang utos ni LTC. Abang at sa military, OBEY FIRST BEFORE YOU COMPLAIN, dahil pag di sumunod sila, siguradong tanggal sila sa serbisyo.

  • AngMandarambong

    Will you try to engage in a gun battle if you are surrounded by soldiers and policemen, and trapped inside the car, and could not retreat? It is unlikely that everyone of the murdered victims are suicidal and have a death wish. They could have been forced to surrender if the police wanted them alive.

  • scorpio15

     “Shooting had started so we fired warning shots,” Abang said in English and Filipino.

    Nagkaputukan na merong pang “Warning Shots”??? Makikilala ba ang Warning Shot pagnagkaputukan na? Sa bu-ong buhay ko ngayon lang ako nakarinig ng ganitong dahilan galing sa Military.

  • where_I_stand

    Military OFFicer Abang: “They fired in the air.”
    And all the suspects were dead. No survivors.

    Abang’s justification: The military presence in the checkpoint was to augment the police forces. While the apprehending law enforcement expected fire exchange as per intel report that the suspects were armed with high caliber weapons, there were no intentions to kill but only to neutralize them. However, instead of surrendering, the suspects started firing at the police. The greatest miracle happened on that day: only Marandang was hit on his knee. He was outwit by the suspects. Seeing their leader being shot, the policemen open fire only to the vehicles to neutralize escape. Cornered by well planned checkpoint, the only exit available to the suspects was the sky. Unfortunately, when the suspects flew up in the air to escape apprehension, they hit the bullets fired as warning shots by the military. Well, the law of nature dictates that what goes up must come down. Don’t blame the military but the police for scarring the suspects by strapping their vehicles.

    No one can blame Abang. He is used in telling lies to his soldiers and they believed him without question, without doubt. He thinks all people wear military uniforms. Shame.

    • noyab

      SI ABANG SA PANGALAN PALANG AY DELIKADO NA ….MAGALING SA ABANG AND PATAYAN

  • boybakal

    Soldiers fired in the air’…

    If they fired in the air…for the sake of argument.
    Bakit ang tama ng SUV ay sa tagiliran, driver seat, passenger seat.
    Kawawa nga yon SUV sa dami ng butas sa tama ng bala, flat pa yon gulong.

    If the Soldiers fired in the air….dapat sa bubong ang tama ng SUV, pag palagay ng bumagsak pa ang bala galing taas.
    In short, Bolahin nyo ang lelong nyong panot.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/AX7A65HBPOATKIEDV77LOLRVUM Colokoy

      boy ok ka rin basahin mo ng mabuti, yong fired in the air ay warning shots, yon ang unang ginawa nila

  • kalikasanipagtanggol

    “It was necessary,” he said. “Shooting had started so we fired warning shots,” Abang said in English and Filipino. 

    Hahaha PMA graduate ba ito? “Shooting had started so we fired warning shots”

    Halimbawa nga nagbabarilan na ang magkabilang panig, kayo ng mga sundalo mo nagpaputok lang sa ere? unbelievable statement sa pinag-aral ng taong bayan sa isang military institution! Bautista alisan mo nga ng isang ranggo ito opisyal mo at ginagawa bobo ang graduate ng PMA….LMAO!

    • noyab

      EXACTLY UNBELIEVABLE STATEMENT ANG ISANG SUNDALONG LUGA, LUGA, LUGA

    • 33Sambuang

      pano kasi bobo ang tong si kaabang abang. pma grad pero nuknukan ng bobo

  • my_chatmate

    Chronology:
    1. People in the car tried to ramp the check point,
    2. Military truck has to block the highway so that they cannot ramp the check point.
    3. Montero slowed down.
    4. Marantan approached the cars. 
    5. Was shot left legs and left hands.
    6. Police returned fire.
    7. Seeing police in civies shooting the cars while Marantan was being dragged to safety,  Soldiers give warning shots, to tell the people the in car not to shoot.
    8. Some guys went out of 2nd car. One after being shoot 17 times including a headshot, able to walk a few meters, dropped his gun, closed his hands and died.

    • noyab

      ANG GALING MO SA AKALA, PARANG NADOON KA SA CRIME SCENE. BUGOK…KILLER KA RIN SIGURO…

    • $20722540

      kong ikaw ang sa checkpoint, meron kang nakita na 40 police at military na meron mga kaumang mga armalite sa tingnin mo magpapaputok ka pa?  magpapaputok ng isang putok lang…siguro kong meron siya grenade launcher baka gawin mo, diba?

  • gmaisthebestpresident

    may share din kaya si Maj Gen? nagtatanong lang.

  • $37644997

    The soldiers fired into the air and the bullets fell to earth they knew not where.Suddenly hundreds of bullet holes are visible in two suv’s and 13 dead men where bullets lodged in them.What more can I say?and for the Military it was indeed a successful encounter.

  • bulkyboy

    “It pays the price for the sacrifice”…Ito ang mahirap sa bansa natin…gagawa ka ng operasyon tapos kapag successful eh credit yan sa tuwid na programa ni Pnoy pero kapag palpak eh isisi yan sa namuno sa operasyon…I really don’t care about the speculations and the hear-says of every individual but one thing is sure…13 are dead…are they innocent? we don’t know. We have to see the 2 side of a coin. As for those killed with siman especially those men in uniform, why are they with Mr. Siman? Are they friends with benefits? Do they have personal agenda? Kasi hindi ka basta-basta sasama sa isang tao o grupo na hindi mo man lang alamin ang background nila…

    • $20722540

      obviously, meron mga conflict of interest doon sa mga kasama ni siman na yan…kong talagang siyan pajueteng.  however, the issue is, eventhough siman is a legit target and considered criminal (for the sake of argument only).  he deserved a day in court…much more his companions.  but to shoot them in cold blood in disguise as a shootout is not permitted in a civil society like ours.  a general and colonel is not even consistent with their statements which only means someone wasn’t very good in writing and re-writing their supposed script…obviously someone is lying.

      • NEILMCNALLY

        You call Pilipinas a civil society!
        A day in court achieves nothing in this country..if the accused even reaches the court.Most are cleverly exonerated cos they have the money and/or back-up of friends in power.
        Corruption is “the way” here,and will be for decades..or centuries if the people in power now are not ousted,and all the rubbish-men/women under their command as well.
        Even if “some”of the government is honestly determined to get rid of juenteng,most do not care,and..if you try to catch ALL who are involved,LET ALONE proving their involvement in courts-of-law..it is just one big laugh here in the Pilipinas!
        Better to begin to kill off all suspects,one by one..sooner or later,there will be no jueneng workers selling “tickets” to the masses..problem solved

      • $20722540

        i don’t buy this stupid idea

      • NEILMCNALLY

        Well..it is very practical and simple solution in the present climate of Pilipinas

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

    ” Soldiers consistent
    Luga said that according to Abang, what happened was a shootout between the government security forces and the men in two vehicles.
    “All the soldiers were consistent in their statement that it was a shootout because they were fired at first and then they fired back,” Luga said. ”

    Siguro dapat isalang silang lahat na mga sundalo sa lie detector test, para malaman kung nagsasabi nga sila ng totoo. At lahat ng mga opisyal na may kinalaman sa Coplan Armado… Pati sina Sec leila De Lima at mga gumawa ng re-enactment…

    • Pedro_Gil

      may topak ka kung isasama mo si de lima.  Siya lang ang may departamentong hindi kasama sa massacre na yan. magisip kang mabuti. hehehe.

  • Jesuit13

    Luga and Abang should first coordinate  their statements so it wont be too  obvious that they are  lying  ..  .. Abang said: “The shooting has started so we fired warning shots.” Luga says: They were fired at first so they retaliated” .. And to think that  one of them is a major general ..

  • noyab

    LUGA MO DAHIL SANAY KA SA GANYAN SISTEMA, AKALA MO SIGURO MARTIAL PA RIN

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KAGAOIBHOROFBZW3ATJLXHKLQU MaR A

    With all the different statements and testimonies, this is going nowhere, finging justice and truth here in the Philippines is soOo hard, if not, impossible.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TNASVGXZ23VCJWV7KO7WPDIKKI George

    hmmmm, magkano kaya ang share ni luga at abang sa missing millions ni siman?

  • mrgracia

    Gen. Luga, maglinis ka ng tenga mo. Mali ang dinig mo sa sinabi sa ‘yo ng mga sundalo mo. Eto ang sinabi sa ‘yo, basahin mo na lang “We shoot first, we shoot back and we shoot again and again and again”… Mga litsi kayu! Sumbong ko kayu kay Prisindinti.

  • Dawn Dare

    “He said he was in a vehicle positioned near the second of three checkpoints along Maharlika Highway when the shooting happened.” Now what kind of leader is this? Who gave the order to shoot?

    • diamond_digger

       Its very obvious na this bugok na opisyal (dapat sa CAFGU na lang siya) is telling us a lie! Shooting into the air after being fired at is ridiculously unbelievable and preposterous at that. I wonder how this fellow passed and graduated from the PMA. He should be ashamed of his statements. And if I were his son, I may just decide to get rid of him forever for being a source of unparalleled shame to the family.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TNASVGXZ23VCJWV7KO7WPDIKKI George

    “They fired in the air,” he said.

    akala kasi ng mga kupal, new year celebration.

  • kontra_boohaya

    LTC Abang, your allibi doesn’t pass the common sense test and more importantly, it doesn’t jibe with the principle of plausible deniability.  Pang grade 3 na palusot.  Baka susunod na pahayag ay “we are on a training mission kaya blanks lang ang dala namin.”  Here we have cases of kabulukan…Marantan, a law enforcer, used his military training (special forces) to deal with the suspects.  Abang, a military man, used a police tactic to fire a warning shot.  Ano ba ang totoo te?

    • diamond_digger

       I hope the Pres. Aquino and AFP Chief of Staff Gen. Bautista will look into the competence of this ugok na batallion commander na si Abang. He insists that what happened was a shootout and that his troop were shoot at first. But on the same breath, this ugok added and insisted that his soldiers fired into the air. If indeed they were fired at first, it will be instinctive for anyone and logical at that, that they will fired back at the supposed shooters and not into the air. No wonder the AFP isn’t winning in its battles against the NPAs and more so with the Abu Sayaff because they do not fire directly at the enemies but instead fire at the moon. Di ba napaka-gago nitong opisyal na ito. He has no business staying any second longer in his post. He is a shame, not only to his own family but to the AFP and the Filipino people. This guy should be sacked from his job or even court-martialed.

    • batangpaslit

      may kilala akong pulis. sinunod nia ang habilin kung paano mag aprehend ng kawatan on the act.
      warning shot…tatlong putok.
      by the time the police is about to level his Cal .38 to the thief, the thief was an arms lenght from him and managed to stab the police.
      with lesson learned, ang kasama nia nang sa sunod nilang patrol at may naabutang magnanakaw, binaril nia muna ang kawatan, tapos nag warning shot
      hehehe…
      pag sa battle scene ka na Bro you have to think quick. pag mahina-hina, ikaw ang lugmok.

  • Pedro_Gil

    dahil sa pera ang dahilan sa pagpatay.  sadami ng balang pumasok sa dalawang sasakyan ng mga biktima, paano pumunta sa sasakyan ang bala at hindi sa hangin? pinaglololoko ng mga kurakot na pulis at militar ang taong bayan. huwag tayong pumayag na hindi managot ang magbabarkadang ito.  kailangang ibalik ang parusang bitay sa mga ito.  ok ka de lima wag kang matakot !  salamat po!

  • $20722540

    abang, abangan mo na lang ang mangyayari?  bakit ba yong 2 suvs na kaliwa ng daan?  kasi nga nag-overtake sila sa truck…kaya palagay ko nagkandarapa silang harangin at bitbitin yong signage sa gitna ng daan…tapos sasabihin mo gusto nilang i-crash yong checkpoint…ni hindi nga nila makita yong checkpoint kasi doon sa truck.  at the same time, yong mga civilian na nagconduct checkpoint hindi rin makita kaagad yong mga suvs na parating, diba?  nagpaputok daw sa taas…malay ba nong nasa loob ng suvs kong totoong police sila at military…eh mga naka civilian clothes…doon pa lang mali na kayo…duh!

    isa pa, bakit yong 10 rifles hindi pa sinubmit sa nbi…palagay ko yon ang mga rumaratrat…gusto pang idelay…siguro gumagawa ng bagong script.

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    Ganun kahirap tanggapin ng militar ang pagkakamali nila. Tanggap naman ng taong bayan na nagamit sila. Pero may pananagutan pa rin sila. Yan ang mentalidad na dapat iwasto sa militar. 

  • MarcyPulilan

    Warning shot habang nagbabarilan na? Bobo talaga iyong sino man ang nagsabi niyan, halatang naghuhugas ng kamay. Pag putukan na tapos na ang warning shots, barilan na. General kamo ang nagsabi niyan? Patay na ang Pilipinas kung ganyan mag isip ang mga general. Siguro magsapabatas na tayo ng right to bear arms, walang silbi ang mga sundalo natin at mga pulis. Mga pulubing hampas lupang patay gutom na mga squatter iyang mga sundalo at pulis na yan na nang nakahawak ng baril nagsisiga sigaan na.

    • batangpaslit

      Marcy, matapang ka pala eh. Bakit hindi mo sila harapin at ratratin mo sila, in defense of your colleagues who are economic saboterus.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AX7A65HBPOATKIEDV77LOLRVUM Colokoy

    pag sundalo o police ang nabaril sa checkpoint cgurado ang sasabihin ng mga maka jueteng at LP na kaibigan ni siman tatangatanga kasi.. kung 5 police lng ang nasa checkpoint nong time na yon at pwersahan nilang inaresto si siman bka lahat police patay

    • batangpaslit

      tama ka, Tsong.
      itong klaseng illegal na negosyo, economic sabotage, unahan lang ‘yan eh
      kung sino man ang pumasok ng ganitong criminal na gawain ay handang bumaril at dapat handa din silang mamaril
      marunong si Col Maratrat kung paano bumira. talo ang bodyguard na upperclass nia kasama ang iba pang sundalo na nag moonlight as bodyguards

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/EE5LMUQHMXD2Q3PBSSDKBMG7VI Rexy

        tignan kung saan tinamaan si sir, sa paa at kamay ba? ngek, sana kung medyo sa tagiliran, mukhang totoo. lumang stilo na iyan.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WVDRK4OFJXD3QVBRMSPGWU5LHI inventor

        Itong kasong ito ay masyadong binibigyan ng pansin ng media. Wari ko malaki ang naging pakinabang nila dito kay Siman na isang gambling lord, at nag-aalaga pa ng mga mataas na ranggong pulis at mga bodyguard. Tsk. tsk. After all ang mga biktima din ay mga ibong pare-pareho ng pakpak. Kung di naman siguro sila kumapit sa isang gambling lord at pinili ang mabuhay ng tahimik ay di nila abutin ang ganyang kapalaran. Puede ba itigil na ang issue na iyan at harapin naman natin ang ibang mga problema na mas kapakipakinabang para sa ating bansa. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BL2GYU35SO6HTJUEAUTXS3QFYM George Lapulapu

    ..so where is the after operation report Sir?

    …nagputokan, warning shot ka pa? at sino pala ang commanding officer sa check point? di naman ikaw di ba si marantan…kaya lahat sunod kay marantan…

    …binobobo nyo naman ang taombayan e… mga palusot nyo sa academy wag nyo dalhin sa labas…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BL2GYU35SO6HTJUEAUTXS3QFYM George Lapulapu

    paano mabago ang sistema kung lahat palusot??? Sir??? di na po to academy>>>

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BL2GYU35SO6HTJUEAUTXS3QFYM George Lapulapu

    at kailan man ay di legitimate ang isang operation na gumagamit ng resources ng gobyerno para makinabang (sa jueting)  ang pribadong individual na kagaya ng kapatid ni Marantan…

  • 33Sambuang

    puro pagtatakip ang ginagawa ninyong mga hayup kayo. mamamatay tao yang si marantan tarantado. ang dami ng pinatay nyan…… matapang lang dahil me baril. protektado ng mga jueteng lords yan pati na ang kapatid na dating madreng hinayupak

  • 33Sambuang

    general luga…. ang bobo mo. warning shot ka dyan. nagkaputukan na ano…. maglinis nga ng tenga mo kasi pura luga na ang laman. tado ka

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUZISWUMVDD5QJUC7GBJKEM7XA prangka

    Saka na lang ako magbabasa ng tungkol dito. Mahirap kung walang final report. Dami daming press releases. Nakakalito ang mga statements.

  • boybakal

    ‘Soldiers FIRED IN THE AIR….

    I don’t Believe this Theory or this Defense.
    If the Soldiers Fired in the Air, bakit ang Bumagsak Tao mula SUV, hindi Ibon..

    If they can show one dead bird….I will give them the Benefit of Doubt.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002207384387 Andrei Mendoza

      “If they can show one dead bird….there is presumption of doubt.”

      the most idiotic reasoning i ever heard!

      • boybakal

         You’re idiot too…grammar watcher. magisip ka ng sarili, para original ka naman.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002207384387 Andrei Mendoza

        lols… kalawangin ang utak mo pre’ tama lang na boybakal ka hahahahahaha.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/GTVNMZR22PGMS55WQPIJTYB4IY Jaime

        Tanga! he’s just being funny.

    • ARIKUTIK

      One dead bird as evidence for Benefit of Doubt…..  What a Donk who have no idea how hot and big an armalite bullet. Psssttttt, walang matirang boung Maya pag tinamaan ng balang armalite, baka eskopita yong na imagine mong baril. Ang dapat hanapin ay “One dead Monkey eating Eagle” ……. Donk ! weeeeeeeee >>>>>>

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/GTVNMZR22PGMS55WQPIJTYB4IY Jaime

        isa kang tanga! he’s just being funny and you guys don’t get it.

      • ARIKUTIK

        I too is just making Fun ! Sinong tanga ngayon … eeeewwwwww …. A victim of paradise. Meron bang Monkey eating Eagle sa Quezon ? kung wala ay isa kang ew..eww…ewww….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6QW4Q3WBQ65CU63FJRP6RH3F3A dan dan

    Of course the Military has to protect it’s ranks and image.Period.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JLZJHQHV7WVOJ4XZW4QKRDYSUA Gerry Randel

    Why were the soldiers called as “augmentation force” when i fact military personnel duty is to fight insurgency and rebellion. Under the law, they are not authorized to perform police functions. hence, there presence and involvement in this incident in Atimonan is very suspect.

  • farmerpo

     ‘The new military chief, Lt. Gen. Emmanuel Bautista, on Friday said the
    soldiers who were called in as an “augmentation force” for the police
    team at the checkpoint went there “in good faith.”’

    What this guy is saying is that they were suckered into the ambush/firefight. How naive can you get! If they were ALL at the first checkpoint, not the ambush point, the excuse may even sound plausible. Either this guy is totally jumpy or too simplistic… fired in the air…hoyyyy sumuku na kamo, sundalo ini!!!!  Asssus… 

  • novaliches

     laking pasalamat ni rico puno, wala na siya sa dilg.

  • joerizal

    “Shooting had already started so we fired warning shots” Bobo pala talaga itong si Abang eh. Nagbabarilan na pero warning shots lang ang pinaputok niyo? Mga ungas, sino’ng niloko niyo? Rubout talaga yan.

    • pinoy_astig

      Kaya pala maraming namamatay nating mga sundalo sa Minadanao dahil kahit pinapaputukan na… sa  taas pa rin pala sila nagpapaputok…bwahahaha…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/EE5LMUQHMXD2Q3PBSSDKBMG7VI Rexy

        baka akala nila ay new year pa kaya sa itaas sila nag papaputok !!!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/74DX67S5U6H557SPUXS5XZ6QJI Alisto Juan

        Tumbok mo yata, tapos ‘pre, sabihin pa nila na nakapikit pa ng pumutok. . je. je. je.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CAWLT6SE3IC36RTDVRUIDWO364 Dag Erickson

    It is difficult when you’re dead coz you cannot defend yourself. They can say anything about you. They fired in the air? SO, THE VICTIMS COMMITTED SUICIDE AT THE CHECK POINT !  CASE CLOSED

    • Mattino2011

      Stray bullets  ata tumama sa 13 na nakasay sa 2 SUV lol

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NM4SNUMVIXK3ULEJBTUVCJFN4A cool

    You cannot justify your action of killing 13 people…! Did not giving a chance to anyone of them.

  • herecomesrusty

    Is it possible that 2 vehicles with some fully trained armed millitary and police men fail to recognise an ambush so much that noo one at least fired their gun even after a couple of shots toward them?

    They

  • kabayandinako

    Sige, kanya-kanya na kayo ng palusot. Halatang halata na turuan ang nangyayari, pag nagkapalpakan. Pero pag ayos at maganda ang resulta puro kayo ako yon, kami gumawa noon, ako ang responsable doon at kung ano ano pa…

  • ARIKUTIK

    Walang kasalanan ang Army enlisted men. Taga baril lang sila ng kalaban pag mag umpisa ang putukan. Yong mga hunghang na opisyales ang dikdikin pati ang “out of the scene” na PAOCC, kasi Presidential yan. Diyan umasa ng proteksiyon si Maratatat. Kaya nga sa una ay ipinagkaila ng PAOCC, sabi ay wala daw silang pakialam kasi hindi approve ang operation. Nagka bulilyaso lang kasi may hawak na resibo si Maratatat na nabigyan ng 100,000.- funding. Napilitan tuloy umamin ang Presidential AOCC. Unahing ikulong ang nagsinungaling na taga PAOCC with charges of Deleting Justice information or obstruction of justice in lawyers term. Ang “daang matuwid” ay dapat tuwid walang pinili kahit ka KKK.

    • toyota4ever

      i totally agree, officials should be the one to blame not those regular police or soldier their just following orders!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GTVNMZR22PGMS55WQPIJTYB4IY Jaime

    They fired in the air.  Yeah right those 13 people are flying?

    • ARIKUTIK

      It is possible that some “Quick Thinking” army soldiers just fired in the air. That is one way of scaring possible enemy. Remember those killed were inside the car NOT in combat position.

      • Jason Cruz

        Probably the best alibi they can give if they will be charged with murder.    They fired their guns to scare the people inside the car.     

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/74DX67S5U6H557SPUXS5XZ6QJI Alisto Juan

    Kahit i-firing squad mo pa yan, hindi talaga magsalita yan ng totoo. . Fire in the air, ehh, dumaan nga ang bala sa hangin, saan ba dadaan yun?? . .  Cong. Farinas, sabihin mo nga’ng “Palusot”. .

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7IGQYIPU6AFTVRJ742XT2X44M4 Jef

    Noong una disapproved COPLAN operation even a single centavo walang enerelease, ngayon nag  iba ang ihip ng hangin hold in abeyance yong request for fund din sumunod inamin  nagrelease 100,000 as intelligence fund not operation…Villasanta ano ang nasa isip bakit nalilito ka pulis ka ba or nagpupulis pulisan…this is clear intelligence operation against gun for hire and other syndicate anytime anywhere kakana sila…shame on you…this is a shootout sure one or two of the passenger was the one who fire first kaya neratrat sila…

  • toyota4ever

    ONLY IN THE PHILLIPINES!  sumobra kasi ang press freedom sa pinas, all talks about this should not be here in the first place if only news reporter, law enforcement, all involve, should only wait for final report of the NBI.para ang mga mamayan

  • mynnyx

    utot…..talaga itong abogado ng mga sundalo…………nagpaputok daw sa taas………..hahahahahaha paano magpapaputok sa taas eh……di naman tumakbo yong kalaban…….at saka paano makapagpaputok yong nasa kotse kung siksikan sila sa loob…imagine isang kotse anim o pito ang laman………….may gulay magisip nga kayo……maganda nyan aminin……..nyo na mali at saka humingi kayo ng pagkakamali nyo………..si marantan eh…….tanggalin na yan ang magtanim na lang ng kamote sa kanila………….kawawa ang mga pilipino pag ganyan ang mga kapulisan…………..trigger happy…..walang iniisip kungdi pumatay………………

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ERCCN5ANNNF7BEBFMYXR6ALGRU Dan

    Bull!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/74DX67S5U6H557SPUXS5XZ6QJI Alisto Juan

    Dapat rin magpaliwanag ang AFP kung bakit may Intel na kasama ni Siman, baka din sabihin nila na Oplan “Tiktik” at legit yun. . Sige nga-sige nga, hintayin ko ang paliwanag mo bata. . . 

  • titod

    Eh si Ninoy, sino nga ba ang bumaril ? Mukhang mas malaking issue ito na dapat tuunan ng pansin. Ilang dekada na dumaan, hindi pa rin natin alam ang katotohanan.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ERCCN5ANNNF7BEBFMYXR6ALGRU Dan

    This motherf*cking lt. col abang may be telling the truth that the soldiers fired warning shots in the air and when the bullets came down it hit all the occupants in the vehicles, yeah right, he thinks people is sooooooooo stupid to believe him, get the f*ck out of here, you dirty rotten scoundrel!

    • Jason Cruz

      You’re right IF there is shout out and the soldiers fired their weapons on the air !!  what a shame and stupid reasons.    He is certified idiot or dumb.

      • berotsky

         Baka “shoutout” nga ibig sabihin ni Abang ……nang may sumigaw nang “Fire”……shoot na kaagad….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ERCCN5ANNNF7BEBFMYXR6ALGRU Dan

    If this Lt Col Abang a graduate of PMA, they should disown him, what a shame!

    • http://www.facebook.com/mikey.principe Mikey Principe

      You’re so naive! Ganyan ang itinuturo sa PMA!

  • regie

    anong good faith good faith…kailangan ang susundin ay order from a superior for some lawful purpose. eh kung nakita niyo ng nirarat tapos nakataas na ang kamay at binaril in cold blood eh hindi na lawful order yan. utak martial law pa rin po yan na carry over pa from marcos time…kawawa ang pilipinas tlaga..ang kaya lang ng mga pulis at sundalo ay yung wlang kalaban laban..no wonder they are being licked badly by the NPA and the MOro rebels….GOD save the Philippines from these kind of soldiers and policemen…

  • gerry2000

    What a shame! Syempre naman nasa iisang barracks lang mga sundalo pag nag-iba-iba pa ng pahayag ang mga yan aba’y sobrang bobo na talaga ng mga taga AFP. Tama na ang isang bobong Abang..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_44QGTQXFYHNVPNMX453LWBPMXM Opel

    The police should refrain from involving the military in police operations, they are polluting the integrity of the AFP. Tinuturuan pa kong paano rumaket ng mga lintek. I am surprised that a lie detector test is not mandatory during internal investigation of police and military personnel sa pinas.

    • NEILMCNALLY

      WHAT INTEGRITY?

  • katabay1106

    Gen. Bautista please investigate on your own and not rely on the statement of your men. Of course they will say there was a shootout because if not, then it was a massacre. I dont understand why they have to kill all those people if they are only after Vic Siman. Maybe it is true that the group carried P100 Million in cash and they share the loot among themselves.

  • Jason Cruz

     Ang gulo naman ng PAOCC, sabihin ninyo na si Ochoa ang nag go signal dyan.   Hugas kamay pa kayo nung sumamblay na yung project ninyo.  Itong mga military men na kasangkot pati na yung nga officer isama na idismis o itapon sa Maguindanao.

  • Jason Cruz

    Bumabaril yung kalaban sa kanila, at sila nagpapatok pataas, hahahahahahaha, kaya pala puro talo sa labanan ang sundalo natin sa taas nagpapaputok at yung kalaban binabaril sila mismo.

    BOBO !

  • regd

    The most plausible explanation to connect all the dots is this:
    Vehicle was stop, military man approach, no response from the vehicle, military retreats sensing tension, warning shots was ordered and this is where it get’s complicated.

    My theory is either somebody accidentally (or intentionally) fired on the vehicle. Because of the confusion (try being on the firing range of your wife and you’ll know what I mean, it will decalcify your ear drums), somebody mistook it to mean people inside where shooting. And everything went downhill from there.

    Either way, the military is at fault here and they continue digging their hole deeper with every conceivable excuses.

  • wilfel

    Who is going to believe what you say. Firing in the air ? Even firing in the air still the bullet still will come down and will hit somebody else. Those words you say is like the phrase of saying ” Tell it to the marines”. Come on, as a ranking officer you need to tell the truth and not covering up what have happen already. Be truthful in you words instead of lies. Maybe you were assigned to Mindanao so what you know is shoot to kill because over there it is survival at best.

  • batangpaslit

    frankly, i do not give a hoot how the economic saboteurs and the police and soldiers moonlighting as close in security guards to the Jueteng Lord died.
    all of them know that the kind of illegal activity they are doing makes them susceptible to “wars” like this.
    if they have no compunction to kill their rivals, then, they must be prepared to be killed too.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5TENDBNOVQRJEKFPV76D2N4XUM Socorro

    What goes up must come down, so may tinamaan and beside who would believe you that when you fired in the air, all the 13 men will die of several gunshot wounds. Grabe naman, just admit na lang kasi. In that way baka maisalvage pa nag PNP and AFP. When you tell the truth as WHO gave the orders to kill 13 men baka maniwala pa kami. Ang mga Filipino nag iisip and we are analyzing your words so stop insulting us with your lies.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5TENDBNOVQRJEKFPV76D2N4XUM Socorro

    Another thing why do our policemen and soldiers like to kill criminals or alleged drug lords, jueteng lords and others? How can they get to the truth when nobody will answer their questions anynore kasi pinatay na nila lahat. Nothing will be solved, is this how  dumd the officers and the policemen are in our country?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4PIU2AIGVXJNQ4UBH5X64MSFE mr

      Puro maliliit na isda lang naman tinitira nila, bat di nila magalaw sina Pineda at Atong Ang at mga drug maker na mga Intsik.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    I think if the intention of Supt. Marantan is to ambush the group of Vic Siman then why should he call the army special forces to join the fray? More participants will certainly complicate his plans, and possibility of hostile witnesses in case of controversy. Will DOJ Sec. De Lima then think that a conspiracy existed between the police and army to ambush Vic Siman and his group?

  • LabkoPinas

    This officer is out to cover their misdeed. He should be demoted back to back private and made to wash the latrines.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4PIU2AIGVXJNQ4UBH5X64MSFE mr

      idestino yan sa sulo o basilan para panlaban sa abu sayad.

  • http://twitter.com/Fjan24 john

    WAG NYU MUNA HUSGAAN C  ‘Abang’ Dhel hinde nyu alam ang totoo. Kaya Ma advice ko sainyo sa mga taong non sense ang comment. Jst keep your mouth shut then wait for the result!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DRXM5DJDBWNZ6FEPZDIJYIATNA Billy Mosende

      apparently, nag-mamaang-maangan ka with the results: 13 killed by over 200 bullets fired from guns pointed at the vehicles they were in. Ang sabi ni Abang: They fired in the air.

      ano husga mo kay Abang? nagsasabi ng totoo?  BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!  utot nyo pareho!  sino niloko nyo?  BWAHAHAHA!!!!  

      shoot in the air my A$$! 

  • Garo Ungaro

    Based on the facts/evidence gathered (200) plus rounds hit the 2 SUVs most of rounds came from M16s M14s rifles…the rest from the short pistols…How can you explain that…? The most that this (unwilling) military personnels used by this Police group can get is manslaughter with mitigating circumstances….The defendants (military) was participant in the homicide conduct or consented to the homicide act.They were lured to participate in a heinous crime…The culpability as participanst is present…?…This will be a hard climb…Its sad…that they were used…????

  • Mattino2011

    “Soldiers Fired in the air.”…baka stray bullest lang naman tumama sa dalawang SUV. hehe..Kaya tinamaan mga 13 na katao..Patibayan ng sikmura sa pagsinungaling

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4PIU2AIGVXJNQ4UBH5X64MSFE mr

      galing ng bala nila no, sa taas pinaputok pero lahat dumapo sa mga SUV. sana lahat ng armas ng AFP ganon di panalo tayo laban sa mga intsik.

  • akramgolteb

    Kahit kailan wala talagang laban ang mga gunmen sa loob ng kotse kaysa mga nasa labas. Una limitado ang movement at space ng mga tao sa loob ng kotse, pangalawa wala silang puedeng pagtaguan. Mga sundalo at pulis lalu na sa NPA infested area, unang reaction nila pag may nagpaputok, ubusin ang bala nila sa target dahil kung hindi todas sila.  Ito ang dahilan kung bakit parang walang laban ang mga sa loob ng kotse. 

    Shootout ito hindi rubout. Shootout between 2 gambling groups. Kaya dapat parusahan silang lahat. Bitayin, pugutan ng ulo lahat ang invloved pati yung mga namatay at saka ilibing ng buhay.

  • Rovingmoron

    Just the same, which is higher, the regional police command or the PAOCC in Malacanang? If ever there was any decision from the PAOCC not to push through with the plan,how could  the Marantan’s group could have pushed through with the Coplan, and instead could have arrested Vic Siman and the other suspects at the check point? The PAOCC said in previous reports that the reason why they didn’t approve of the intel funds because they thought it would be bloody. The decision of the PAOCC officials, led by Ochoa, could have prevailed upon over that of Marantan’s. Instead, the PAOCC may have suggested to marantan to just arrest Vic Siman and his group and file necessary criminal charges in the court of law? And I think the issue here was whether someone from the convoy had fired at the security forces, which led to the alleged shootout?

  • divictes

    WANTED: PMA Instructor
     Prevarication 101
    Proficiency in lying convincingly a must.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4PIU2AIGVXJNQ4UBH5X64MSFE mr

      Add mo na rin dyan ang Corruption 101 kasi karamihan sa mga general nila puro mga corrupt tanongin mo si Ligot at Garcia. Kaya nagpakamatay si Reyes dahil nakonsensya.

  • kawatancila

    Crisanto Buela, the soldiers’ lawyer, told a news conference that the military has a witness who will contradict the statements of the government’s witnesses.  oh come on…. padamihan na ba ng witness, so ano naman kaya ginagawa ng witness sa lugar na yun, .. atty buela, sa tingin ko d uubra yan witness na depensa nyu.. pag nag labas ng witness ang doj .. meron din kayong witness… tapos ang pnp me witness din….      kakatawa naman nyan… sinong tao kaya yan na papayag na mag witness … para sa mga military…   nag hahanap ka lang ba ng gulo … meaning andun ang witness ng mg army during the incident… sana nag video na lang siya… kung me celpon siya… total me mga camera celpon ngaun… wait tayo baka me witness din ang grupo ni marantan, 
        mga group commanders ,, kakatawa naman yan ,,, sasabihin nu na me una nag paputok ,, tapos lahat ng inyong statement e ayun din sa mga tauhan nu…
      mas mabuti tumahimik na lang kayo…. kung puro lang sabi ni ganun e ganun… sabi nila ay ganun … kung wala ka sa lugar noong naganap ang incident …shut up…
        kc tanging ang mga evidence na lang ang magiging basehan..kc d na pwede basta paniwalaan 
    ang srtatement ng mga involved sa pamamaril.. natural.. depensa mo sarili mo..
         parang mga choir ang grupo ng pnp at army..iisa ang kinakanta…
          yan ay expected… kc patay lahat ang mga 13 na katao… so you mean kayo paniniwalaan namin… 

  • Albert Einstien

    kung  totoo yun hindi mahanap na 100 mllion, gold at diamonds e…KAHIT ISANG DAAN LAW FIRMS kaya ng mga protektors BUMILI at i-MASAKER ang KATOTOHANAN…

  • kimkim1226

    Gen Luga you should also investigate some witness and not only your men, if Col Abang will tell his soldiers only to say its a shoot-out they will obey to do that as their superior officers. We have a checkpoint operating procedures then how come this people are riddled by bullets and some are close range as per nbi’s finding.

  • tipay

    overkill is murder

  • kimkim1226

    Sa AFP, bakit hindi nyo UPAKAN ang mga chinese na nasa SCARBOROUGH SHOUL na nakabantay at umangkin sa isla natin. huwag na kayong sumusunod ng operating procedures, sa checkpoint nga lang halos binuhos nyo ang bala sa dalawang sasakyan, why not doon nyo ibuhos ang BALA nyo sa mga lintek na insekto na binantayan ang ISLA natin.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4PIU2AIGVXJNQ4UBH5X64MSFE mr

      Mga naduduwag pagdating sa tutoong kalaban kagaya ng mga intsik, abu sayad at NPA

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/WC5IJSKXTZLNM3AV3VGPMM4O7Y ero

    dito maraming kamag anak si hitler na na nagsasabi na “Tell the people LIE…… ” cguro si marantan ay first degree cousin hahahaha

  • eirons1043

    This is a very clear case of the statements which is diametrically different from physical evidence. The physical evidence were the monteros were parked properly on the side of the road, the trajectory of the bullets coming from an ambush prepared position, the position of the men firing is less than 15 feet away, the gun of one of the fatalities properly position or improperly position in one of the picture and the gun gone in one of the pictures and so many others. The shooters hem and hewed before submitting themselves for questioning and even covered their faces while running towards the door of the NBI offices.  I though all along that only suspected criminals and witnesses whose life is in danger covers their faces. Finally the number of bullets fired at the vehicles were clearly indicative of one way shooting not a shoot out aside from the fact that both monteros are full of passengers and cannot move easily.

    • NEILMCNALLY

      For a catholic church-dominated Country(?86%),this incident tells a lot about learning dishonesty is the way to heaven,here in d Pilipinas

  • Janch

    Mismong military paiba-iba ang kwento.  Ano ba talaga warning shots lang or shoot out? kahiya-hiya.

  • xrisp

    Sa umpisa palang ang NBI ay may pahiwatig na na di ito shootout kaya ang mga pulis at military naman na involved dito ay lahat ginagawa ngaun upang mapabulaanan na ang mga paratang sa kanila kaya lang lalo sila nagiging inconsistent sa mga pahayag nila. Sa mga imbestigasyon at mga ebidensiya na nakikita sa pangyayari, alam na ng taong bayan ang nangyari at huling huli na ang official report na ilalabas ng NBI.

    • Norms Garcia

      Ganun talaga pag nagsisinungalin ang Tao. Inconsistent at conflicting.

    • sanjuan683

       Trial by publicity yan ginagawa huag mo sabihin alam  ng taong bayan ang nangyari hehehehehe wala naman kami dun. Check point yan kaya dapat huminto at irespeto ang lugar eh kung poporma lalaban kayo aba uunahan talaga kayo ng mga pulis at military.

  • tra6Gpeche

    The dead Atimonan 13 might be criminals but I am 100 % sure that the killers are all lawless and villainous Philippine law enforcers! 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4PIU2AIGVXJNQ4UBH5X64MSFE mr

      Marantan is 100% killer and a criminal. This is his fifth shootout so far with all the victims dead –including the innocent father and daughter in the Paranaque shoot out).

      • sanjuan683

         Kapag nakakita ka ng checkpoint huminto ka at ilagay yun dalawang kamay mo sa ibabaw ng manibela. Huwag na huwag sa puwet mo na porma huhugot ka ng baril na ala FPJ o Lito Lapid tiyak uunahan ka ng mga pulis. Yan ang ituro mo sa mga criminals nang hindi sila madedo.

    • NEILMCNALLY

      Right-on,”tra6peche1″

    • sanjuan683

       Correct ka diyan imbes magpahuli sila ng buhay napilitan sila lumaban teka yun ba mga baril mga lisensyado?

  • Immortal

    Kung ako nasa kalagayan nung nasa sasakyan, di na ako lalaban once nakarinig na ako ng mga warning shots. Common sense lang, nakapalibot na sau, nakatutok na, may nakaharang pang army truck, lalaban ka pa ba?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4PIU2AIGVXJNQ4UBH5X64MSFE mr

      Pano pa makakalaban kung naratrat na, meron na nga nagtaas ng kamay at sumusuko binaril pa at lumalabas sa imbestigasyon ng NBI na di nagpaputok mga nasa sasakyan. Kaya rubout o ambush yan. Dyan sanay si Marantan sa ambusan at kada ambush nya eh tumataas ranggo nya. Baka maging general na yan pagkatapos ng imbestigasyon.

    • Janch

      From the testimony of witnesses, wala ngang warning shot.  The first volley of gunshots came from the police/military after Marantan shouted, “Fire!”  Walang shootout.  Kung may nagpaputok man sa mga pasahero ng sasakyan, dahil pinaulanan na sila ng bala.

    • sanjuan683

       Oo nga hindi naman mga bandido yan nasa checkpoint mga pulis at military ang mga yan. Pero kung aasta at poporma magpapaputok o lalaban aba hindi magpapahuli ang mga pulis at military sayang na lang ang training nila mga alert ang mga iyan hindi yan magpapahuli. Nakikisaw na naman ito Eta-e Rosales sa eksena. hehehehehehehe

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/VBN5IUGKHSGIHDV5L6QVG2KBTI Leop233

     hindi ata nanonood ng mga forensics investigation itong mga nasasakdal e.  Mga pards, hindi po nag sisinungaling ang mga ebidensya. One way shoot out base sa ebidensya.. Augmentation force? Gaaano karaming ba dapat ang mga nasa checkpoint? 40? hindi ba overkill na sa bilang un? pangalawang checkpoint yan, hindi ba mas marami dapat sa unang checkpoint?

    Dinadaan nyo sa dami tulad ng maguindanao massacre, pero sigurado ‘to, kulong kayo!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4PIU2AIGVXJNQ4UBH5X64MSFE mr

      Tanong, bat nakapasa sa first check point at tapos pinalampas para lang ba mabitag sa pangalawa?

      • Norms Garcia

        Di mo kailanga ang deductive ability ni Sherlock Holmes o si mr Spock para gum saw ng conclusion na ambush talaga Ito

      • sanjuan683

         Eh itanong mo sa mga puno nakapaligid baka sagutin ka nila. Dami mo mga tanong imbestigador ka ba? Ipaubaya muna yan sa gobierno huag ka na makikisawsaw. Manood ka na lang Ina Anak Kapatid malapit na matapos sa TV2.

  • PeteJrfern

    Ang tanong bakit lahat patay wala mang buhay?  Mga nagpapasugal lang sila, anim lang ang may baril.  YOng iba yata pulis din.  Kailangan huliin nang buhay last resort na yong pag pagpatay, kahit sa giyera may rules pa rin.  Pag nagsurrender hindi binabaril.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4PIU2AIGVXJNQ4UBH5X64MSFE mr

      Dead man don’t tell tales. Pag patay na siyempre di si Marantan at mga kasama na lang ang bida at mga napatay ang may sala maski planted pa mga baril na ginawang ebidensya. 

    • sanjuan683

       hehehehe kung nakataas ang kamay hindi ibig sabihin susuko na siya eh kung may baril sa likod ng baywang sabay hugot ala FPJ o Lito Lapid patay ang tanga pulis hindi nag-ingat. hehehehehe Yan ang gusto ninyo mangyari may mamatay muna pulis at sundalo. Bago kayo maniwala. hehehehehehhe

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/D3Y67DDOKWUY5CNC4M6MHZ2EEU Dodjie

    Since when did we train our soldiers to fire in the air? Now you have a witness to counter the other two witnesses.  What’s next…you’re going to say the victims committed mass suicide.

  • regd

    AND THEIR NOSE KEEPS EXTENDING! 

  • Chris P Pnono

    Palagay ko meron malaking kulangot na nakabara sa utak ng ..abogago ng military.. sa langit daw ang pina putokan???warning  babala na putok..hehehe fired on the air tumama sa mga saksakyan.wasak ang  2 sasakyan deadbol ang 13 kataong sakay..katwiran ba ng isang abogado ito este abogago pala….

    • sanjuan683

       Baka naman talagang mga tulisan yun kaya inunahan na. Check point yan dapat respeto lang isang lang sa kanila maglabas ng baril at porma magpapaputok aba ibang usapan na yan. hehehehehe babanatan sila ng mga authorities.

  • koolkid_inthehouse

    Why ‘fired in the air’?  What’s the purpose if you don’t intend to shoot at the other group?  If the vehichles can’t move call for more back ups and a negotiator on the scene or maybe call Purisima.

    Col. Abang you call fool all the Filipino people. 

    • Janch

      LOL.  Nagbabarilan na ang pulis at pasahero ng sasakyan, magwawarning shot pa daw?

    • sanjuan683

       Gusto mo pa yata mangyari lalapit na pakengdeng-kengdeng ang mga pulis at military at sasabihin nila hoy bakla ako puede ba huminto kayo dahil checkpoint ito. Kapag nakakita ka ng check point huminto ka at huag ka poporma lalaban yan mga kamay mo ilagay mo sa ibabaw ng manibela hindi sa puwet mo kasi kapag sa puwet siguradong huhugot ka ng baril sigurado uunahan ka ng mga authorities. Kailangan pa ba may mamatay na authorities para paniwalaan lang shootout ang tanga naman ninyo. hehehehehehe

  • bogli_anakdami

    dapat eh tanungin si kongresman phuckyaw… siguradong ‘sang suntok lang niya kay supremo abugaga de lima, tapos ang kaso, di ba?

    • koolkid_inthehouse

      you’re really screwed.  what did you smoke today?

      • bogli_anakdami

        just reading the flipnews, i don’t have to smoke sh!t… the flips, all of you, are phucked up… bwi hi hi hi hi… pwi

  • kimkim1226

    HINDI BOBO ANG MGA CIVILIAN KUNG MAGBABASA AT PAHAYAG NYO. SUPERIOR KAYO SO ISANG SALITA LANG ANG SASABIHIN NG SUNDALO NYO….. ITS A SHOOT-OUT.

    • sanjuan683

       Hindi nga bobo ang civilian kung nabili naman at ginawa witness eh matalino itong witness. Papaano kung naunahan naman ang mga pulis at military sigurado sasabihin mga bobo sila. hehehehehehehe Maliwanag check point yan kaya dapat huminto at respeto ang kailangan eh kung aasta ka lalaban aba hindi magpapahuli ang mga pulis at military. Nakita raw ng witness nang magbarilan hehehehehe eh putok lang ng superlolo kumakaripas ng takbo. hehehehehe. Nabibili ang witness dito only in the Pinas.Baka yun witness nasa itaas ng niyog at umiinon ng tuba. hehehehehehe

  • PeteJrfern

    All PNP and military future operations should embed a journalist/camera man, it doest have to be live.  Did you guys see the Bin Ladin raid, napapanood nang command center live.  Bigyan nang helmet or head gear na may camera ang mga operatives.  Lahat nang check point dapat may kamera recordings. 

    • sanjuan683

       Kahit na sabihin mo may video sasabihin pa nila hindi totoo at ini-dit. Tignan mo nga yan kay Mon Tulfo nakatelevised na ayaw pa rin paniwalaan ng judge eh ang linaw linaw inatake siya. Yan lang televised malinaw na ebedensya na kinuyog si Mon. hehehehehehe tanga ang judge na yun

  • basyong

    aminin na lang kung talagang massacre.common sense lang naman e bakit makikipagshoot out ang mga tao sa suv e wala silang kalaban laban kapag nirat rat  katulad ng ginawa ni marantantado.kahit grade one ang nasa suv e hindi gagawa ng hakbang para ratsahin sila dahil walang proteksyon.gaguhun na lang ninyo ang mga general ninyong mga tangengot LOLU

    • sanjuan683

       Nandun ka sa pinangyarihan ng shootout. Sigurado wala ka dun kasi kung nandun ka deadbol ka na. Huag kana makisawsaw dapat nga hindi na pinapublish yan sa newspapers. Imbestigahan na lang tignan mo yun nangyari sa shooting sa US, hindi na nakikialam ang newspapers at si Obama hindi na nakikialam dahil nagkaroon ng imbestigasion at patuloy pa rin ang imbestigasion. Katulad ka rin ni daldalima nag-imbestiga nga pero hinatulan na agad ang mga pulis at military. hehehehehehehehe Sa lahat ng naging DOJ secretary yan ang pinakabobo. hehehehehehe

      • basyong

        laki ng proteksyon mo kay maratnan kahit na nagratrat rat atat.magkano ba atin diya mr sanjuan683?

  • koolkid_inthehouse

    This is what really happen.  I will reinforce Col. Abang’s version. 
    Police and Special forces were firing their guns in the air.  Its a rainy afternoon and road is slippery.  Those firing their guns in the air slipped and passengers in the 2 SUVs started laughing at the soldiers.  The soldiers and policemen got mad at the ungrateful 13, so they killed ‘em all bastards.

    • bogli_anakdami

      wow… that’s incredible… genius… why didn’t the flip gub’ment think of that…

      bwi hi hi hi pwi…

  • PCD_2012

    Let the individual soldiers speak for themselves and let the investigators interrogate them without the guidance of their lawyers! To be fair to those people which the police and army were already subjected under their own interrogations every time they had apprehended someone!

  • Sarkasmos

    If you shoot Abang in one ear and the bullet exits through the other ear, it would still be considered firing in the air because there is nothing in between his ears. As for Luga, his name says its all–he simply cannot hear clearly.

  • Pogi=”No To Political Dynasty”

    Lipulin Ang Jueteng Lords!!!!

    • bogli_anakdami

      uy easy ka lang… ang jueteng lord dito sa amin eh si lord padre damaso… kaya ‘sang bendisyon lang dito sa aming mga lastilyas at kubrador siguradong diretso kami sa langit… di na lalagyan si san pedro…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    The soldiers fired in the air thinking the victims were in the plane.

    • boldyak

      maybe they are high on drugs and thought SUV’s were airplains?….

  • pabulaka

    They heard shots already and yet they are still firing warning shots???????? What are they looking at???? The 2 witnesses who are in the truck are right in front of the shooting, like watching TV in their living room. Their account would be more credible than the residents who I’m sure didn’t see anything because they were all hiding when they heard the shots.

  • basyong

    soldiers fired in the air pero nung bumagsak yung mga bala tinamaan lahat yung mga tao duon sa dalawang SUVS. tsk tsk tsk napakagaling naman ng militar natin sobrang mga asintado?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DH5D5H6XIXUJUHGMEHUWZFVIOU Dionisio

      oo nga eh kaya pag REBELS na ang kasagupa malimit sila ang BUTATA

  • Vertumnus

    They fired into the air?  You have not been training those soldiers very well because their aim is way off and killed those guys in the convoy!

    Ambushed! Overkill!  Leave no potential witness alive!  Filipinos have the internet now and we are educated and can’t easily be fooled like the old days of Marcos’s times.  Confess you murderous bunch!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      They could be carrying new weapons made in China that when they aimed up high and fired in the air the target went down at the enemies.

      • Vertumnus

        The must be using magic bullet that changes directions when fired into the air. I think I saw an episode of NCIS where bullets seek out the targets. I had no idea the AFP have access to those kinds of bullets!

  • speaksoftlylove

    I knew it. I told you so. The third vehicle was a convertible UFO that’s why they fired in the the air but it was able to escape with the loot, Amazing!

    • Garo Ungaro

      They go bird hunting that’s why they fired in the air…but it so happens no bird dead.
      but on the ground (13) victim dead on the 2 SUVs how will you explain that?…

  • wehd1nga

    soldiers fired in the air ~ col. abang,  and probably firing blanks too is that what happened colonel, what about this theory that those 13 dead bodies committed suicide, ever thought of that col. abang, and maybe you’re thinking that we are all idiots like your army chief gen. bautista 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

    ang gagaling nyo, kaya lumalabo ang kaso…yan ang nag- papatunay na-napakatsismoso ang pinoy kanya-kanyang pakulo kaya walang pag-asang magkaisa ang pinoys…..!!!!

  • Tonypogi

    Code of Omerta. I scratch your back, you scratch my back. Sino pa ang magtatakipan kundi sila-sila? Pag sumalungat ka, TEPOK!!!!

  • mad_as_Hamlet

    THE NBI AND THE ARMY’S DISPLAY OF ANTI-AIRCRAFT FIRE AT ATIMONAN, QUEZON

    Although I’m confident the NBI will not fall for any trick being played upon them by anyone from the Army, nonetheless, in my humble capacity as a Monoblock Chair Detective, please bear with me in posting this.

    As stated in the news article, the NBI has now with them the firearms which the soldiers of the army unit supposedly carried and/or fired in the Atimonan incident.  The obvious purpose is to allow a possible ballistics comparison of the slugs recovered at the scene (especially those recovered from the bodies of the victims, if any) with sample slugs from bullets yet to be fired from the surrendered firearms. A match would mean that a particular slug recovered from the crime scene was in fact fired from a specific firearm belonging to the lot surrendered by Lt. Col. Abang, and consequently, the identification of the firer.

    However, the news does not mention if Lt. Col. Abang also surrendered the MRs (Memorandum Receipts) covering each of the said firearms. It is the MR which will indicate the identity of the Army soldier to whom a particular firearm was issued.  That is, assuming that the firearms carried by the soldiers were all government-issued.

    However, even discounting the possibility of MRs being falsified or new but antedated ones being issued such that the firearms surrendered were not actually the original ones issued to the soldiers involved, the principal, graver and well-nigh insurmountable problem is that, even with authentic MRs, these firearms have interchangeable parts. Thus, the possibility that the barrels and firing pins of the firearms surrendered are no longer the original ones is not only real.  It might really turn out to be the case.  Of course, this problem would not be insurmountable if the Army performs ballistics tests, proper tagging, and keeps a ballistics data bank for the firearms and other weapons it issues to its personnel.  But it does not.

    Thus, ridiculous as it may appear to all of us, Lt. Col. Abang’s declaration, “They fired in the air,” is I believe a product both of nervousness and pre-emption.  Nervousness, because he knew that he was privy to the subterfuge.  Pre-emption, because he knows the only possible outcome of an NBI ballistics examination: No Match.  Because they were practicing delivering anti-aircraft fire and the slugs landed far from the crime scene. For or against what, we might ask.  I’m sure that without blinking an eye Lt. Col. Abang will answer, “Chinese aircraft.”
     

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DH5D5H6XIXUJUHGMEHUWZFVIOU Dionisio

      Y fire in the air??? ang mahal ng bala ng M14 at M16. LTCOL ABANG BN Cmdr ng spl forces ‘ this is his spl declaration so MAG ABANG na lang tayo ng resulta

  • speaksoftlylove

    Si Col. Monico Abang ay bagay talaga yang apelyido niya., NagAbang muna siya ng mahigit isang linggo at nakiramdam muna kung anong takbo ng kwento ni Lola Basyang bago humirit na nagpaputok daw muna sila sa hangin, Pero basahin nyo yong kwentong barbero niya at nagpaputok muna yong grupo ni Sicam bago sila nagwarning shot, ano ito si Abang payaso?

    Yong isang official niya sa Army Special Forces ay nagsabi na 30 minutes bago magkaputukan tumawag si Marantan ng tulong kay Abang. Tutulong lang kaagadagvad ang militar kung may aktuwal na engkwentro at namimiligro ang kalagayan ng mga pulis. Dagdag pa ng offcial ay sa pagkaalam niya ngayon lang nangyaring umaksyon kaagad ang Special Forces within 30 minutes na wala pang barilang naganap. Dati rati daw ay umaabot kung ilkang araw bago maaprubahan ang “request for assitance.”

    You guess it right. Si Col. Monico Abang ay nag aAbang na ng tawag ni Marantan bago pa man mangyari ang barilan. Sa tingin ko inisip nila na madaling makalusot ang mga Specvisal Forces dahil sa maliban na hindi alam ng mga tauhan ni Abang kung anong istorya, sumusunod lang sila sa utos ni Abang at madaling sabihing legitimate encounter at makaiwas ang mga pulis. Akala nila maganda ang plano nila, kaya lang nabutata.

    • pilosopo4

       ABANGAN ang susunod na kabanata…oo na nga nagpaputok sa hangin pagtapos  magpaputok sa harapan.

  • VeryDisgusted2

    Imprison Abang and Luga. Soldier-officers should not be liars. Shame to the PMA for producing liars and murderers.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SEELVC6DK2B7HXWCXDMTNQXLLE Jonas

    accidential fire…ok..enough…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SEELVC6DK2B7HXWCXDMTNQXLLE Jonas

    Dont you see…Abang Luga……ambaho nun…. bat naman mag Abang Ng Luga…lols

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DH5D5H6XIXUJUHGMEHUWZFVIOU Dionisio

      ano ba ng solcom chief si gen victor luga

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IAXSH5MU2ZLZ67FCVXOVYIK2E4 Jessie Savilla

    Incredible statement , Firing Warning shots almost simultaneously with the volley of fire at the two vehicles. They say “Tell it to the Marines”.. Such statement in defense of His Men is premature as a mere lip service in the absence of “investigation” within the Phil. Army Ranks, where all the involved must have executed “Sworn statements”.

    These Statement , if found untrue and deceiving should be a ground for Administrative or Criminal Action. This is also indicative (if found untrue) of the danger in dealing with our supposed to-be- defender of the People.
     

  • julieboy

    Let the lawyers figure out what happened,sila naman makikinabang dito sa kaso.The truth will be so covered up with technicalities and contradiction no one will ever know who is telling the truth.I have no further comment on this issue,lalong lumalabo at gumugolo.Bahala na Dyos sa kanila.You live by the gun you will die by the gun.Let KARMA take its tole on them.

    • Htee

      AND PRAY NA MAIMPEKSYON ANG SUGAT NI MARATRAT AT MAMATAY SA TETANO????

  • basilionisisa

    i give the law-enforcers’ version the benefit of the doubt… and WAIT for the final OUTCOME of the NBI INVESTIGATION… but i maintain that the civilians who were riding with the slain crime lord were NOT as ‘innocent’ as their relatives paint them to be (relatives are always last to know the bad things about you).

    where were they (those 3 cars) going? dapat ngang makita yung third car at kung sino laman nuon. my suspicion: siguro papunta sa hq nila, magpapakilalanan, pag-uusapan kung paano ang ‘partihan’, kung kani-kanino ang mga teritoryo, kung sino ang mga ‘padrinong’ politicians, kung anong ‘cover’ ang maganda (charity, environment, human rights, etc)… posible, di ba?

    • xrisp

      Malalim talaga ngunit umiikot lang lahat ng ito sa kasakiman sa kapangyarihan at pagka ganid sa pera kaya kahit pumatay ng kapwa ay ginagawa. Money is a good servant but a poor master!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DH5D5H6XIXUJUHGMEHUWZFVIOU Dionisio

        very well said igan

    • UPnnGrd

       Alam na ata ni Sec deLima kung ano dapat ang kaniyang palalabasing katotohanan, eh.   Kaya ahg next na lang,  Pulse survey.  Siguro, sa Marso, pai-ikutin na ang survey-survey.

  • neilabarca

    MAHIRAP PANIWALAAN ng isang libong beses na ENGKWENTRO ang naganap sa ATIMONAN. 
    Kung NPA  o   MILF rebels ang nakasagupa nila Marantan at Luga,  maaring ENCOUNTER nga,  pero naman, naman, naman….  mga KABARO at KABALAHIBO nila ang kalaban …
    Sinong may SINTIDO-KUMON ang maniniwala ….??? walang lohika… style n’yo buluk.!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/46I2E7GSFYUYXVBQH3NYSCI2QM Roger Dimasalang

    Nonsense Julieboy – you are obviously a rabid fan of Marantan. It is a CLEAR case of AMMASROB – AMBUSH THEM, MASSACRE THEM, AND THEN ROB THEM !!  

  • Pat Manes

    just like watching a film.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DH5D5H6XIXUJUHGMEHUWZFVIOU Dionisio

    parang ang GULO GULO  ng mga statement sabi ang funds na narelease is for INTEL only to SUPPORT the OPNS???  ano baga talaga mga kuya. APPROVED BA ang OPNS///??? SAY NI kit otsowa DISAPPROVED???? SI supt hansel magaling sa INTEL isama pa si glen dumlao na Battalion Commander ng RMG sus ginoo nabuhay uli ang mga alipores ni PING, kelan kaya aangkla si mancao???

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DH5D5H6XIXUJUHGMEHUWZFVIOU Dionisio

    saan na naassign si Supt Fidel utol ni retiredc/supt aaron na pinalitan ni glen dumlao

  • virgoyap

    Their statements still leave many questions to answer.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DH5D5H6XIXUJUHGMEHUWZFVIOU Dionisio

    naalala ko tuloy si mayor tony sanchez ng calauan laguna after mahuli lahat ng may koneksyon sa kanya direct or indirect nireraid  

  • kilabot

    the ampatuan syndrome is alive and kicking under noykapon’s admin. 
    bang bang bang! ubo ubo ubo! 
    sick, so sick.

  • rolandtr

    These soldiers seem not to read the clear signs of the times: TRANSPARENCY IF HERE TO STAY! They will be proven wrong or right with scientific evidence corroborated by eye witness account. Gen Luga and Col Abang risking their hard earned career seem to be so cavalier. Their statement is so full of holes. But the NBI investigation will show them right or wrong.

  • watot

    Rub-out or shoot-out, whatever it is …still an overkill…you received 14 shots when you’re out and defenseless! Even a stupid 1 year old cannot agree with the accused. If you’re being stopped and cornered and no way you’ll get pass a mltary truck and a huge truck nor a quick reverse escape and you knew there were 40-50 armed men with assault rifles poining at you…will you fire first or contemplate and wait if you’ll get a better chance. In this scenario, one will only counter in the event they started shooting just to get even or get 1 killed at least. If you knew your enemy is in a confined space and no chance to get even at you, does it make sense to try to unload all your bullets at him? This is tottaly absurd! Now that the victims may be a real criminals, imagine when you’ll get stop in a checkpoint yourself.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3NJ4IIZZMB2OMPIOR7X2B72ME k

    kaya pala laging talo sa MIFL at abu sayyaf ang AFP,nagkakabarilan na,sa itaas pa sila bumabaril…hehehehe.

    ABANG,yan ba ang ituturo mo sa mga anak mo,ang pagiging sinungaling?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AUHY7NAKYRSA2T24MJ5P7EAA6U junteddy m

    ha ha ha..warning shots???gago ka colonel!

  • 100345roselia

    As expected, the officers & soldiers of the AFP & PNP do not know that it was a rub-out not a
    shoot-out.  Why?  Because as disciplined officers / soldiers they always follow their motto  – “obey first before complain.”  “The apple does not fall too far from the tree”, so to speak.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AMG5EDI2JBQRL4Z5H2L7ED4OQA yahoo-AMG5EDI2JBQRL4Z5H2L7ED4OQA

    Abang said that contrary to Thursday’s reenactment of the supposed
    shootout, which was based on the testimony of two eyewitnesses, his men
    fired only “warning shots” during the operation.
    They fired in the air,” he said.
    “It was necessary,” he said. “Shooting had started so we fired warning shots,” Abang said in English and Filipino…………
    “kahit sinong elementary student hindi maniniwala dito..!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYCOAGIL35OAIRH2T6QH3IZUMY Ike

    “They fired in the air,”

    Pls dont make a fool of us all and a fool of yourself! We understand that the Army soldiers present had to follow orders and you’ll just have to do what your were supposed to do: to follow orders. If Abang & his men dont know anything about the Coplan and was there as ordered by Gen Luga as per Marantan’s request, then you can say they come there in good faith and was a victim of the circumstances as well. But for LtCol Abang to say that they come all the way there to just fire in the air dont help their credebility at all. Better start telling the truth, as the Holy Bible said: “The truth will set you free”.

    • sherlock101

       i think the army was there in good faith because it was an official order. ang di nila alam ginamit lang cla ni marantan,take note, si marantan lang not the intelligence group or pnp because of his personal agenda. nasa hit list na sya ni siman so ang ginawa nya inunahan nya na. parang isang bata na may kaaway at nakita nya na mas malaki sa kanya kaya sinama nya kuya nya para makasigurado sya na matatalo nya ung kaaway nya.

      • boldyak

        si Siman ay nasa hitlist ni Marantan, kalaban sa Jueteng..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZPSWRL3XYIEHH5646TCY75DCNM Matthew

      Let’s face it.

      This was mass murder ordered by the maladministration in Malacanang. Aquino will wash his hands of all responsibility as he always does and the yellow media will make sure that the story is killed before the end of the month.

      And De Lima will do what she always does: destroy the rule of law in order to protect Aquino and his KKK.

      There is no straight path under this maladministration. There is just a KKK-driven takeover of jueteng. Once again, we see the evil Puno’s hand at work.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3NJ4IIZZMB2OMPIOR7X2B72ME k

        bro,para tuloy ang kasiyahan mo diretsahin ko na para sa iyo.PNOY was at the crime scene and he was the one who shouted ”fire”!

        happy?

  • kishbuff

    ‘They fired in the air’…..pero bumalik ang bala pababa…. yun sapul lahat ng sakay ng suv hahahaha!

    • http://Yahoo.com/ Ragdeleafar

      Wala yatang butas sa roof ng SUVs lahat tama ng bala sa pinto at windshield maliban lang sa kamay at paa ni Supt. Marantan yun siguro bala pababa???

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WTAON5IXMNB43HD4UY5JLY434U Reynaldo

    that’s what they said…what about balistic and paraffin tests…physical evidence is supposed to be taken rather than words that could be twisted, distorted and rehearsed or taught or done under duress.sabi ni commanding officer.”.ito and sabihin nyo ha kung hindi”… 

  • JOSE RIZAL

    magkano kaya ang kita sa jueteng nitong sina luga at abang? ang special forces pala ay kutsabador na rin ng mga pulis sa jueteng. kaya pala gulpesarado kayo lagi sa enkwentro sa mga npa, milf, abusayyaf, puro jueteng ang nasa utak nyo. putok sa hangin? ano yon, utot? nakakahiya talaga ang sandatahang lakas dahil sa mga tulad nyo. asan na mga vigilante?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZZK525UYR7QVVXNHVEKXLPUY34 Ed

    How do you solve a problem like the military?
    Saan ba tayo nagkulang sa training?

    1. Army Lt. Col. Monico Abang claims the Atimonan incident was an encounter, but his soldiers fired in the air. Di ba, pag encounter, you shoot at the enemy – not in the air?

    2. Maj. Gen. Alan Luga, the commander of the military in Southern Luzon says he agrees that it was a shootout. Di ba, pag shootout, you shoot at the enemy – not fire warning shots (para bang “hoy, hoy, andito kami”)?

    3. The new AFP Chief  Lt. Gen. Emmanuel Bautista was the Philippine Army commander when the supposed shootout happened; he said the soldiers went to the checkpoint in good faith. Di ba,  pag augmentation force, you provide armed backup ready to fire – not hope for the best in good faith, para bang “prayer brigade”? 

    Sadya bang dapat ibalik sa “rookie training” ang mga opisyal natin? Hmmm, di kaya pinag-bobola lang tayo? Sorry ha if I sound like I was born yesterday….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JLZJHQHV7WVOJ4XZW4QKRDYSUA Gerry Randel

    Col Abang said that his men only fired warning shots in the air,  on the other hand, his superior, Gen. Luga claimed that the army soldiers only retaliated when the supposed victims “fired first”. If the army soldiers retaliated, it means they did not  fire in the air, but fired directly to the 13 occupants of the two vehicles. Which is which?

    • http://Yahoo.com/ Ragdeleafar

      Firing in the air doesn’t necessarily means firing vertically but this can be done also horizontally without an intentional target. The warning shot by Military at the first checkpoint could have been mistaken as the supposed  “first shot” at the second checkpoint, thus what happens next is the rapid firing by PNP at the second checkpoint killing all (victims) in the SUVs.

      The “first shot’s” stray bullet could have hit the arm/left foot of Supt. Marantan??? Good comedy movie script!

      • Htee

        LET’S CALL THIS NAKED GUN 13…..HAHAHA

      • Hurtlocker1

        So very rare na ang mga lispu sa pinas ay mag warning shot kong meron pursuits..ha!! bihira magnyari eto sa pinas..

        pero sa mga military, hindi ko pa narinig na meron warning shots..LOL!!!!

        Eto c abang at luga, ginawang mga tanga ang mga pinoy.

  • Pitbulldog

    I also stand by the military when they said it is a legit encounter and not on these inHuman Rights statements and the other morons who want to make it appear as a rubout. You have few choices in a checkpoint other than stop and be searched, you either run or shoot it out.  In those few options, you will either live to tell your tale or die.  If you live, you either have to lie or  tell the truth.  Lying,  that it is a rubout as usual.  If you die, you only have two desitnations, either you go to hell or you go to heaven.  And if….. hahaba na lalo ito.  Tilgilan na nga ninyo yan mga engots. 

  • Pluma Mana

    “All the soldiers were consistent in their statement that it was a
    shootout because they were fired at first and then they fired back,”
    Luga said…”

    of course based on the script, they were all ordered to say one same statement only. kaya nga they are not submitting their soldiers to NBI for investigation at si kasi takot sila baka biglang may pumiyok pagpinakanta sa interrogation.

    yun “were fired at first and then they fired back,” ay wala sa vocabulary ng mga pulis at military yan. it’s “fire first before getting fire at” policy lang.

    kung talagang “They warning shots fired in the air,”, ito ay delikado at baka may isang batang nicole na naman ang tatamaan ng mga balang ligaw.

  • boldyak

    are the soldiers trained to fire in the air while a firefight started????…a crap..

    • dodong1

      yes in the Philippine Armed Forces and Philippine Natakot Police ONLY… IT’S MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES…

    • John_Cruz

      Col Abang forgot to tell the Filipino people that half of their ammo are blanks. Hahahahha.
      How do they explain 250 plus bullet holes on the 2 SUVs. LOL.

  • $20926843

    This SOB de Lima insists that the two witnesses who allegedly saw the entire incident were credible witnesses.  That is only her opinion but their real credibility can only be determined upon cross examination by the opposing lawyers.  So all this press releases are just for papogi that she is on the job and to give imprimatur to the initial reaction of her inutile and autistic president in malacanang. And the public should be aware that the place of Atimonan Quezon is teeming with a general  populace that is sympathetic to the cause of CPP/NPA.  So it is not far fetched that these witnesses may be part of that populace intently introduce to muddle the investigation and to portray the military contingent in the area in a bad light and thus, enhance the influence of CPP/NPA.

    • RicDab

      Matagal nang ganyan si De Lima, mahilig magsalita at mag-conclude kahit di pa nya narinig, nakita o napag-aralan ang lahat ng panig. Publicity addict yata e.

    • Edward Castro

      you don’t need to have the deductive reasoning ability of sherlock holmes or mr spock to arrive at a conclusion base on the scene of the crime data.  with superior numbers and firepower and good position, marantan’s group could have easily asked the occupants of the suv’s to surrender.  the suv’s were virtual sitting ducks. “diego! sumuko kana!.. “di ako susuko!!.  bakit ayaw mong sumuko? ” di naman ako si diego! hahahaha

  • magsasakasanayon

    little wonder why our soldiers die in battle all the time. when they are fired at, they are trained to fire in the air, not at the enemy.

  • dodong1

    sa takot nila akala nila sa dalawang SUV na may sakay na 13 katao nasa alapaap kaya pinaputukan nila, kaya sabi nila they FIRED IN THE AIR…

  • Loggnat

    Abang said that contrary to Thursday’s reenactment of the supposed shootout, which was Abang said that contrary to Thursday’s reenactment of the supposed shootout, which was based on the testimony of two eyewitnesses, his men fired only “warning shots” during the operation. “They fired in the air,” he said. /// Liar, Liar… Pants on fie-yer….. :))

  • Markov Chain

    syempre consistent dahil nag usap2x na sila kung ano dapat sabihin….hai naku…ang galing naman nung nasa sasakyan, sarado ang mga tinted na bintana kaya KITANG KITA ang mga tao sa checkpoint kaya nga si hansel lang ang natamaan…bolshet

  • boldyak

    Abang’s statement shows that he didn’t like what he saw, and thinking that making statement that he fired only in the air will free him from future punishment….hugas kamay na statement na yan….Abang, you have just told us the truth….hahaha

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VBIZ5ZTCHCIQ7PILRDPH5EWWMY Fernando

    The Coplan Armado was not approved to be carried out by the military higher ups of Marantan, yet he carried out the operation and called for the support of so many soldiers to back his operation.

    Why did he carry out this operation with out the approval of his superior officers? Why did he call the military to back him up?

    When he carried out the operation without the prior approval of his superior officers, acting on his own volition, it is direct insubordination and he should be court martialed.

    Why did he call the military to back him up? How was Army Lt. Col, Monico Abang able to respond and positioned his men right away as “support” to this unclear  operation? Was  Abang at the beck and call of Marantan? Why?
    And Abang said that his men upon hearing the shots, ordered his men to fire in  the air? How foolish and stupid this is. I only hope that when the cloud shrouding this incident clears out, the conspiracy theories surrounding whatever this is will arrive at the truth.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/FXNIN7XJ52H6BOQLS7NRMO3GEA Lorelei

      Sino ang nag-apruba ng augmentation ng militar sa checkpoint ni Marantan ?

  • boldyak

    Is PAOCC, a death squad?..hhmmmm..looks like it is..

  • Markov Chain

    hahahahahaha!!!…may auto aim ang mga baril nitong nasa militar…kahit “in the air” ang tinira, sa mga nasa SUV pa rin tumama! patay pa lahat…..magaling siguro ang mga ito sa counter strike!!! ibala sa mga insik yan….d na kailangan ng mga mamahaling eroplano at barko…auto aim!!!

    • at-large

       It was designed to hit gambling lord and protector…and very effective as you see all of them died hehehehe

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/VBN5IUGKHSGIHDV5L6QVG2KBTI Leop233

    Soldiers fired in the air and they have homing capabilities to hit the atimonan 13.  Really plausible explanation El Ticol Monico Abang.  …

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/VBN5IUGKHSGIHDV5L6QVG2KBTI Leop233

    May tugtog ata na “Ayer” kaya the soldiers shot in the air.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/VBN5IUGKHSGIHDV5L6QVG2KBTI Leop233

    El Ticol Monico Abang really has an insane imagination.

    • band1do

      LOL

  • elvisaya

    dapat i pa interview kay oprah  itong itong mga opisyal na ito para magsabi ng totoo..

  • kontra_boohaya

    From the get go, I gave the benefit of the doubt to those who  were physically at the scene.  But then, “Shooting had started so we fired warning shots,” Abang said in English and English. “That’s what he and the soldiers told me—they were fired at first, that’s why they retaliated,” Maj. Gen. Alan Luga, the commander of the military in Southern Luzon, said in Filipino.    What a crappy palusot!  Somebody is covering his own aaarrsse.  Kasabwat!

  • band1do

    Fired in the air? LOL…. Sure, in the air pointing directly infront of the 13 criminals.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/6N45VTMWG44CSNC2G5WS33ZAHI MS. F3

      Criminals you said? So what’s the ruse if they were killed shootout or otherwise?

      • band1do

        Let me restate the sentence by adding “criminals”.  It’s called sarcasm, learn it.  

  • ever green

    “It was necessary,” he said. “Shooting had started so we fired warning shots,” Abang said in English and Filipino.——hahahahahaha,,,,,kaya pala hindi manalo-nalo ang gobyerno sa NPA at MILF…..pag pinagbabaril na ang mga sundalo…..magwa-warning shot pa……..

  • pinoypower

    “All the soldiers wer consistent in their statements..” Siempre!!! Kasi sa kampo na sila kinunan ng sworn statements at hindi na pinapunta sa NBI. Natural kopyahan na sila ng sagot kaya pareho-pareho at consistent di ba? Dapat lahat ng sundalo at pulis ay sabay-sabay na pinapunta sa NBI at isa-isang kinunanng sworn statements. Pag ganito tiyak hindi magtutugma ang mga sinabi nila.
    I am seeing now a pattern of cover-up here. Habang tumatagal ang investigations nagkakaroon ng pagkakataon na maayos ang inconsistencies sa statements at evidences. Mukhang hindi nababahala si Marantan at Abang kasi malamang may high ranking protector sila sa gobyerno. Natural lang ito kasi kung tungkol ito sa jueteng, ang taong tumatanggap ng share ng ‘national’ ang kanilang kapit sa Malacanang. Hindi niya pwedeng ilaglag si Marantan kasi pag kumanta ito sabit sa iskandalo ang mataas na opisyal kung sinoman ito. We can only speculate who he is but surely he is there and he exists.

  • Adriano Alvarez

    There are 300 Million REASONS for all these. And if one Divides THAT Amount between 100 people, EACH ONE would still get a HEFTY sum. Enough to keep him mum about it.

    • RicDab

      Is this your opinion? Or are you stating a fact. If it is just your opinion, then you are indeed entitled to one. But if it is a fact, I suggest you testify so that the crooks will be put behind bars.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

    Ung ginawang reenacment ay parang director si delema….

  • pinoypower

    Policemen and soldiers always fire in the air as warning shots but that’s only after shooting the suspects. Yan ang SOP ng mga magugulang na kasi ang sabi nila pag bumaril ka muna sa hangin at tapos sa kalaban malamang maunahan ka at ikaw ang patay! Kailangan naman ang warning shots to justify na sinunod ang SOP ayon sa batas.
    Lumang tugtugin na ang paliwanag ni Abang!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

    The more the military make a noise,  the more they shot themselves on their feet.  They better keep quite and wait for the final outcome of the NBI investigation.  Every concerned parties should keep their mouth shut because they more they make noise,  the more they bring confusion to the already murky situation.  Let the NBI investigation be without bias and really find out the real culprit and punished them severely

    • محمد علي

      nag warning  shot ang sundalo dahil gostong i crash ang unang check point.kaso nag paputok na ayon ubos ang lahi ni satanas…alam ba ninyo yon namatay ,yon din ang papatay sa mga anak natin na maging adik…mga sinidkato sila dapat lang ubusin

  • Htee

    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED SIR, WE FIRED IN THE AIR SIR, BUT DI BULLETS CAME DOWN AGAIN SIR, NOW NO ONE CAN TELL OUR GALLANT STORY SIR. ITSUP TO YOU SIR TO TELL SIR….

  • Htee

    ABANG suppose to mean HUMBLE….

    • Pluma Mana

      sa tagalog ABANG ay medyo synonymous to AMBUSH.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/6N45VTMWG44CSNC2G5WS33ZAHI MS. F3

      No. Abang means wait as in ambush…

  • lostRunes

    Abang, eto sinabi mo sa media dati.

    “Two gunmen jumped out of one of the cars and fired from a roadside
    canal, said Lt. Col. Monico Abang, who led an army platoon in the clash.
    The rest stayed in two vehicles, which troops raked with gunfire on a
    sparsely populated stretch of the highway.”

    Si Lontok ba yun? Yung nagtaas ng kamay? Sinong ta ngang gunman ang tatalon galing kotse at  gagamit ng PISTOL laban sa 50 military/police personnel na may ASSAULT RIFLE. Yung katawan niya linagyan niyo pa ng baril eh CLOSED FIST yung kamay niya.

    “Security personnel sometimes collude with criminal syndicates to rob
    banks or traffic narcotics in an underworld that often includes corrupt
    politicians. Abang said an initial investigation showed that the gunmen
    were likely members of a gun-for-hire group operating in provinces south
    of Manila.”

    LIKELY? Ano yun? Binaril niyo muna tapos hinulaan niyo kung anong klaseng kriminal sila? Bakit ka nag investigate eh taga ARMY ka.

    “They rolled down their windows and started firing, so we had to
    retaliate,” Abang said by cellphone from the scene of the clash. “They
    were clearly outnumbered and outgunned.”

    Clearly outnumbered. No shiitt.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/6N45VTMWG44CSNC2G5WS33ZAHI MS. F3

      Pag nagsisinungaling hindi kapanipaniwala ang kwento. Siksikan ung mga biktima sa SUV tapos “they rolled down their windows and started firing”? E di parang sitting duck lang sila nun. Pareenact nga ke Abang kung paano ung “rolled down their windows and started firing” scenario. Sana kung armored vehicle ang dala baka pa. Pero yung 13 katao sa 2 SUV makikipagbarilan? Di ako eksperto sa barilan pero di ba masyadong masikip yun? Kahit siguro sinong pinakamagaling sa barilan e di kakasa kung napapaligiran na sila ng me mga high-powered guns. Kung nagpaputok man yung mga nasa loob e survival instinct na lang un nung niraratrat na sila.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ERCCN5ANNNF7BEBFMYXR6ALGRU Dan

    they fired in the air, however, when the bullets came down, landed, and hit all the occupants in the vehicle and they are all dead, wow! DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES, case closed!
    Here in this country:
    an inmate in the national penetintiary was abducted for ranson
    a congressman was convicted and serving time in jail was allowed to run for public office,, won and re-elected!, however, he could not serve his constituents because he was behind bars
    Bongbong marcos elected as senator!
    Erap Estrada, a self confessed womanizer, had childrens outside of marriage, a known drunkard, college drop out, became president, and nearly won for the second time in the recent election
    These are just a few of disgusting events in this country,
    And its getting worse as these freaking catholic bishops are making a loud noise, in due, largely in part because SUVs, perks, dole outs are a thing in the past for them
    WOW!
    do you see a silver lining in the horizon, folks

  • Komen To

    “his men fired only “warning shots” during the operation.”

    There seems to be something seriously wrong with this kind of statement.
    1. Does our military really fire warning shots after being fired upon?
    2. Or it is the military who fired the first (warning) shots that caused the outburst later?
    3. If on an encounter, are the military men instructed to fire warning shots first? Is this what is being taught in our military schools?
    4. Where does the military aim their warning shots? In the air which can cause accidental death to innocent people? On the ground? Or directly to the targets but off by a few measures?

    This statement by Abang generated more questions to ask than answered questions

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6N45VTMWG44CSNC2G5WS33ZAHI MS. F3

    Nagpaputok sa ere? Bakeettt? Alam ko nagpapaputok lang sa ere mga alat para pigilan mga tumatakas e. Warning baga na pag hindi huminto sa katatakbo e bala na hahabol. E diba nakapara na mga sasakyan? Ah, ang isa pa palang dahilan para magpaputok sa ere e pag napatay na lahat ng kalaban kuno. Celebration baga. Kaya maniwala tayo ke Abang na nagpaputok sila sa ere pero nung timbwang na lahat ng sakay ng SUVs.

    • INQ415

      bumalik yung mga bala sa lupa kaya natepok lahat.

  • Chris P Pnono

    itabla mga enlisted men kc sunudsunuran lng sa mga superiors nila      .mga officers.ang ihagis sa hadis dagatdagatang apoy…mga sinungaling,si abang dati ng naka abang sa pagdating ng mga biktima…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AUHY7NAKYRSA2T24MJ5P7EAA6U junteddy m

    Abang: Soldiers fired in the air
    Luga: Soldiers were fired first so they retaliated back!

    Mga ungas, mag usap nga muna kayo..

  • Paliwaweng

    If you are apprehended  and sorrounded on a checkpoint by a phalanx of fully-armed platoon of police and military, all their high powered guns pointed at you,would you draw and fire at them?The defense of Marantan et al are not just rediculous and stupid, a serious insult to common sense.

  • jaydeetee1

    Mali si Sec. De Lima ! Hindi yung mga pulis ang nagpaputok ng mga baril nila . Pinag babaril ng mga biktima ang sarili nila ,tinadtad ng mga biktima ng mga bala ang mga sasakyan nila , at nung meron pang natitirang buhay sa kanila , pinagbabaril nila ang mga ulo nila para siguradong patay na sila at hindi nila matanong kung ano ang nangyari . Yan ang final report na lalabas kung yung mga military personnel ang tatanungin nila at ganun din yung sasabihin ni Buellat.
    In other words nag Suicide yung mga biktima !
    ONLY IN THE PHILIPPINES !

  • INQ415

    interrogate isa isa mga nandun tingnan nyo yung inconsistencies. sobrang daming involved.

  • rjimenez1226

    we have a very incompetent military if this is the case. President aquino, please  fire all the  people involved in this incident to teach a lesson.

  • jaydeetee1

    Tama naman si Col.Abang , they fired in the air. kasi kung hindi sila naka dapa ,naka fox hole na sila . mas mataas nga naman yung SUV sa kanila  kaya they fired up in the air ! above their heads na yun eh !

  • rjimenez1226

    we have a very incompetent military if this is the case. President aquino, please fire all the people involved in this incident to teach a lesson.
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  • rjimenez1226

    we have a very incompetent military if this is the case. President aquino, please fire all the people involved in this incident to teach a lesson.
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  • rjimenez1226

    we have a very incompetent military if this is the case. President aquino, please fire all the people involved in this incident to teach a lesson.
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  • dukaponte

    Defective ang mga itinuturo sa ating mga military school. Barilan na, magpapaputok pa sila sa itaas? Sayang ang bala. Kaya, tell that to the marines.

  • malek_abdul

    Its not who made the first shot….it was the one who cried FIRE that is to be established. Bakit sumigaw ng FIRE? The PNP and military upon hearing the word FIRE, all of them fired their guns at will to the people inside the two SUVs. If these PNP and military had been fired at first, would it be possible that some of them or at least one of them could have been hit? Perhaps, Marantan’s wounds could have been caused by friendly fire or could have been self inflicted to justify the first shots.

  • justomontevedio

    Lt. Col. Abang said his men fired only “warning shots” DURING the operation. “They fired in the air,” … “It was necessary,” … “Shooting had started so we fired warning shots,” Abang said in English and Filipino.Ha-ha-ha…Ganito ba ang reaction ng military? Parang COMEDY yata ito. Paano ka naging Lt. Colonel?

  • doublecross

    ‘fired in the air’….hehehe…dami ninyo pinatay ng walang kalaban-laban. para kayong pumatay ng mga animals, sana DIYOS lang nakakaalam.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/X2U4X42BZTUHPWMP2UKFP5QWMU LucasPacascas

    “Shooting had started so we fired warning shots,” Abang said in English and Filipino. Magpapaputok ng warning shots during encounter? Kernel Abang, pinalulundag mo naman yata ang mga tao. Saan mo ba natutunan yan reasoning na yan? Kung lahat ng hepe ng Special Forces e katulad mo Kernel Abang, i-abolish na yan at marami kayong magiging casualty.

  • sk2tk

    It only goes to show that MILITARY MEN got the BALLS, but no BRAINS… unlike the PNP, no BALLS but a lot of BRAINS for MAKING UP STORIES to COVER UP their CRIMINAL ACTS…

  • Fulpol

    they are now better off for rescue missions…. than in military operations??

    in rescue mission, you need to fire a flare gun in the air (sky) to ask for help..

  • sagbotgamot

    The military fired warning shot into the air but the bullets felt to the SUVs that killed them all. waaaaahhhhh
     

  • divictes

    Napakamalas talaga ng 13 na iyun! Biruin mo tamaan ba naman sila ng 200 stray bullets sa loob ng 2 SUVs! This one is for Guinness.

  • AllinLawisFair

    Magkasama ang mga sundalo at pulis sa Coplan Armado na tumambang sa grupo ni Siman. Kaya ang mga sasabihin nila ay pareho lang upang ipagtanggol ang mga balat nila. Natural lamang na hugasan ng kaliwang kamay ang kanan at vice versa. 

    At bilang pinuno ng mga sundalo ay natural din lamang na panigan niya ang ulat ng kanyang mga tauhan; kung hindi ay mawawalan ng paggalang ang mga subordinates sa puno at simula ito ng insubordination. Nasa dilemma ang puno ng mga sundalo dahil maaaring hindi nagsasabi ng totoo ang mga tauhan nito.

    Nasa dilemma rin ang Pangulo kung magkaiba ang ulat ng Department of Justice National Bureau of Investigation (DOJ-NBI) reports at ng Philippine National Police  (PNP) kapanig ng Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) dahil magkasama sa Coplan Armado ang mga tauhan ng dalawang ito.

    Subali’t kung ang mga pinuno ng lahat ng mga ito, (DOJ-NBI, PNP at AFP ay nagmamalasakit sa bayan at sa mamamayan at sa katarungan, dapat silang magkaisa upang tuklasin ang katotohanan at nang maparusahan ang nagkasala.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NPV7TOHIJPG3UMTLQDTHLQJR7Y Jack

    this was a case of shooting first before asking questions

  • aldhins

    Sa dami ng bala tumama sa sasakyan wala talagang ma bubuhay walang pinag kaiba sa ambush  kulang lang gamitan nila ng  M-79 grenade launcher.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYCOAGIL35OAIRH2T6QH3IZUMY Ike

    Lt.Col Abang is telling the truth! It is the truth and nothing but the truth!
    Army Special forces just fired in the air!! The air between them and the 2 montero.
    It is not their fault if the bullets penetrated the air, then penetrated the montero, then penetrated the occupants. It is beyond their control, they are aiming at the air between them and the montero anyway.

  • Guest

    Nakakatakot talaga ang isipan ng mga sundalong salot ng lipunan. Parati na lang pinagtatakpan ang kanilang sariling kapakanan, kaysa paglinkuran ang taong bayan. Imbis na tumulong sa walang pinapanigang imbistigasiyon, nangu-nguna pa sa baluktot at pagkakailang panga-ngatuwiran. Dapat sunugin na lang ang kanilang unipormeng pinuputikan.  

  • sanantonio_888

    baka nataranta na ang mga pulis at sundalo ng makarinig ng putok ni marantan sa sarili at sabi din ng huli na FIRE kaya walang pakundangan ang pagratrat nila sa mga sakay ng 2 vehicles..yun ang nagdala ng hudyat para masabi nila na shoot out nga ang nangyari..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OMNEL2G2GDUDZFL6P3WRMBTQX4 AprilFool

    Yung mga enlisted men ng Special Forces at yung mga pulis na kasama sa Atimonan “encounter” magsalita na kayo. Magsabi na kayo ng totoo dahil magkakapili-pilipit din ang dila nyo kapag isasalang na kayo sa imbestigasyon at lalabas din ang totoo na talagang wala kayong alam sa nasabing operation. Hindi lang talaga kayo makatanggi sa inyong Hepe nang isama kayo sa site ng engkwentro. Don’t cover up for Kernel Marantan, save yourselves, instead dahil may naghihintay pa sa inyo na magandang kapalaran. Mag state witness kayo kung kinakailangan upang lumabas ang katotohanan. THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.

    At ikaw Lt. Col. Monico Abang, don’t insist that there was an encounter and that your soldiers fired their guns in the air as warning shots when the shooting started. It lacks logic Sir.  

    • http://Yahoo.com/ Ragdeleafar

      “Mag state witness kayo kung kinakailangan upang lumabas ang katotohanan.” Para sumikat then after effect nyan pwede ng mag ‘senator’ sikat na ayaw nyo???

  • sanantonio_888

    siguro dapat maglagay ng pabuya ang presidenting PINOY na kung sino ang magsabi ng katotohanan (pulis o sundalo) ay makakatanggap ng reward…

  • feargo

    fired in the air? so siman et all were killed by stray bullets!

  • bryant85

    Granting for purposes of ascertaining the truth, that the group of Siman fired first for even the two witnesses of the NBI had said so that they heard one shot coming from the victims, they  soldiers and policemen, manning the checkpoint shouldn’t have fired back indiscriminately thus, killing all the of the victims as a consequence.

    Even Lontok and his companion who according to the witnesses had raised their hands in a gesture of surrender were peppered with bullets to die. What these gunmen did to both is a violation to the rules of engagement and to the Geneva Convention on the rules of war that an enemy who is surrendering must not be fired upon but should be taken as prisoners of war.

    Also, the scene of the crime was cordoned and every exit of the two suv’s ferrying Siman’s group was blocked off by around forty soldiers wholly outnumbering the victims four to one so retaliating to fire back at them indiscriminately until they were all dead is an overkill.

    The conscience of each gunmen would be his worst enemy to wracked his brain till his life expires, and not the case to be filed against him. They may be acquitted during the trial but their nagging consciences won’t set them free.

  • Leo Paolo Perez

    God help us if this is the kind of police and military personnel we have…

  • boldyak

    sa pagkuha pa lamang ng mga litrato, may dinodoktor na, yung mga baril na dati wala sa tabi ng mga napatay sa unang pictures, nagkaroon sa pangalawang pictures na lumabas…hahahah..katakataka rin na lahat ng tama ni Marantan sa kaliwang bahagi ng katawan..kaliwang kamay at kaliwang paa…hahaha…kung hindi ka kaliwiti pag binaril mo sarili mo, malamang ang tama sa kailwang bahagi ng katawan mo…hahahaha…

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

      u have a very valid observation

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HPGUIIJ44DMCSONOPI4JAEMUZM lex

    my countrymen do worry, all these will go away! tignan mo nga itong si lacson? nakalusot di ba? at may basbas naman yan ng palasiyo e! pa-epek lang ito! pera pera lang!

  • Leo Paolo Perez

    Police intelligence? Military intelligence? No such thing. They are contradiction of terms.

  • boybakal

    It is not a question of Soldiers Fired in the Air.
    The question is why is there a Check Point in the first place.
    Combined  Military and Police Check Point.
    I know Check point is in rural areas where NPAs are abound.

    Why a checkpoint in the highway.
    Why would you place a Checkpoint in a Highway while motorists were running fast.
    Was there a check point before in that bloody place,
    If not then Marantan and Co had already a plan.
     To Get Those People Dead not Alive.

  • adamson11

    This is the problem when you train your police and military officer in Israel, they will shoot first then shout to the world its legit encounter!! Hey can you do the same please to the ampatuans (the one in the detention), I bet my salary no one will cry foul!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

      If the police and the military officers were truly trained in Israel this thing could not have happened.  Israeli army are one of the most disciplined in the world.  They always engage according to the rule.

      • adamson11

        always engage according to the rule! you must be kidding!! stone against tank that is the rule he3…

      • NEILMCNALLY

        Really!!!
        How do you know that is the case,at every conflict?
        You can have absolutely no proof to back that sweeping statement re any armies at any moment in time,anywhere!
        You make it sound as if the Israeli military are angels..my god..they are murderers too..ask any Palestinian.

  • DinngMae

    When you were fired upon, do you fire in the air? Of course not. Professional soldiers, and even armed goons, would fire back at the shooters. This is human nature and the correct reaction (survival instinct) but Monico Abang, who deserved not to be addressed as a lieutenant colonel, would like the people to believe his stupidity.

    As a matter of fact, the standing order in every military or police operations is to never fire a gun unless fired upon and this implies to shoot on the attackers, not the birds in the air. If we are to believe Abang’s demented mentality, it would be a guarantee that the New People’s Army will win the war.

    I hope Abang would do us a favor and keep his mouth shut.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYAZBOJYIUCRLWTYJBORBVTTOI boyfarmer

       Address him as General

      • bucketZombie

        General problem

  • nanyo_nanyo

    kayo naman pagnegyan nyo na se elte-kol jack…ebeg nya sabehen ” my men fired in (sic) the HAIR”, kaso sa mukha tomama ang bala…tsk tsk

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6DTNBPJJUJCPAJNKUH6PBC7UBE stoneridge

    dapat sibakin ni Pnoy si Abang, inconsistent sya at itinutuwid ang baluktot. Isa syang sinungaling. Lahat ng officers na sinungaling, sibakin. Mga kampon sila ng demonyo. Magsamasama sila kasama ni Lucifer sa dagatdagatang apoy.

  • $14141131

    You can sense a man who lies. How could there be an encounter when all the proofs lead to a rubout? Of course, these men are comfortable in concocting stories because they can just go to their media “retainers” to cover their implausible stories. I have read and analyzed criminal cases and this one is just too amateurishly done to appear as an encounter. Media now is the best way to earn money. Look at them buying high-end condominiums, cars, properties and expensive hobbies compared to their incomes.

  • محمد علي

    dapat lang mamatay ang mga sindikato lalo na sa mga drug lord…at ibalik yong dating marcus na patakaran..tingnan ko lang kong may jueting..adik sa mundo.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HYCSJZQQM73RU4POSJKVPKZYJQ Johnny

      oo nga tama ka at isang araw habang nagbabakasyon ka sa pinas ksama ang pamilya mo madilim sakay ng isang kotse napadaan ka sa isang checkpoint….ay sori mali pala akala namin karnapper…alam mo na nanyare…

  • محمد علي

    ang warning shot ang mga sundalo dahil gostong i crash ang unang check point eh nagpaputok na sila ..o de ubos ang lahi ni satanas..ayos lang yon..hwag na kayo kakampi mga adik..para din yan sa kinabukasan ng inyong mga anak makaiwas sa masamang bisyo..hanggat buhay yan..nanganganib ang buhay ng ating mga anak..

  • Paliwaweng

    luko-loko talaga tong si Abang. Anong akala mo sa mga imbestigador, katulad mong utak pulbura?
    Luma na yang style nyo na yan sa military. Nakakasuka na! 
    Katulad ng ginawa nyong pagbaril kay Leonardo Co, sinabi nyong ‘there was an encounter and they were caught by crossfire’. Nakaluhod na daw yung mga tao, binabaril nyo pa.
    Yan na naman ang ‘linya’ nyo dyan sa Atimonan?
    It is a massacre for real.

  • محمد علي

    gayahin ang maynila lahat ng akusado..patayin na lang para dina maka gawa uli ng kalokohan…mabuhay ka dirty harry…hahahahahha

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYAZBOJYIUCRLWTYJBORBVTTOI boyfarmer

    ibang klaseng mga kriminal ang na involve sa supposed shoot out, may sticker pa ng Office of the President ang kanilang kotse. . .

  • superlucky2

    Monica Abang, isa rin sinungaling. The facts, military men and policemen are the criminals. Kahit maliit na bata alam yan.

  • watot

    lokohin nyo lelang nyo! pare parehas lang kayong mga tukmol!

  • Guest

    Lt. Colonel si Abang??? Kala ko sorbetero.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    Attention New AFP Chief….nagkakalat yata ang mga bata mo….huwag nyo nang palawakin pa ang issue.Tandaan ninyo…nasa gobyerno kayo nagtratrabaho …pasahod kayo ng taong bayan !!!
    P.S….narating ninyo ang mga matataas ninyo na ranggo….pakain ,board and lodging at pinag aaral ng mga buwes namin !!!!

  • zeroko

    Fire on the air! Liar!

  • zeroko

    The next thing we know, considering that they are liars, they will give different rifles to mislead the NBI team. He he he. Old story again. Remember. the blocking force has so much time to change their guns. The NBI should check the records which is which. They can verify the guns issued to each individual law officer in the scene. Let’s catch these cheats once and for all.. Remember, these weapons they use are recorded in a ledger when they were issued. Talaga naman o! This time, if they surrendered a different gun, then charge them with perjury and obstruction of justice aside from MURDER!

  • zeroko

    Imagine, they wouldn’t accept a local witness who saw what happened! As DOJ De Lima said, the witness is credible because he has nothing to do with the incident. He was just there out of curiosity. Alam naman natin, mga usisero ang mga Pinoy. He he he. Mantakin mo, ginawa nila yuon on broad daylight. With so many officers carrying guns, using military vehicles, and wearing civiian cloths, naturally, the local Residence were curious why they were carrying long arms. 

    He he he. Miltary and PNP when ever there is an incident, deny, deny, deny. Then again, the press when they arrived took videos on what happened. Now, here is the catch. Why was one of the victim’s picture different. In the PRess, he lie without a gun. Then, in the same picture of the SOCO, there was already a gun present. How about the bag inside? Who has it. Where is the plate of gold? He he he. Puro deny. Now, SOP na ang shot to kill among PNP and Miltary. I repeat on the saying that “Dead men tell no tales.” He he he. Surely, heads will roll. Lintik din naman ang PNP spokesperson and the military, legitimate daw ang encounter. 

    Sabi ng local resident witness, the two men on the second car went out with hands raise as a sign that they are surrendering. O, bakit niyari sila. Ang binabangit ko ay ang nahulog sa canal. That’s explain why his body has powder which is typical when you shoot a man in close range.Hay naku,,,, it’s fun in the Philippines.

    Ano ngayon si Cabinet Secretary Ochoa. Deny rin……………?. 

    • legnasagra

      hina mo naman umintindi, di ba sabi ng mga law enforcer este ambusher ay lumabas ang dalawa at meron hawak na baril at binabaril sila. eh di kaya nila binaril ang dalwang yun ay sa ganung dahilan. ang katanungan ngayon, san na ang listahan ng mga sasakyan na ginamit ng mga ambusher, yun ba ay na subject to inspection na rin? pati yung mga sasakyan na ginamit raw sa pagdala ng dalawang nakaligtas papuntang ospital ay di pa rin siguro na-identify. baka dun na rin isinakay ang mga mahalagang kargamentong nawawala, hehe

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/HYCSJZQQM73RU4POSJKVPKZYJQ Johnny

        andun un sa sasakyan ni abang o ni maratrat….

  • legnasagra

    those involved in the carnage are the best rebel recruiters, if we can only have more of them, no doubt our nation will turn red.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HYCSJZQQM73RU4POSJKVPKZYJQ Johnny

      pdala yan sa west philippine sea testingin naten sa chinese at least me pakinabang sayang sweldo galing sa tax ng bayan..

  • Guest

    mahirap… di natin alam kung sino ang nagsasabi ng tutuo…wow!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KLPCCEL5ADIWVG7GICVNRNP3OA I Love This game

      Cisc – hindi naman siguro mahirap isipin kong bakit pinatay ni Matarat yong mga nakasakay sa dalawang SUV….remember, ka rival sa jueteng nang kanyang sister yon…

      MONEY! money changes everything ♫♫♫

  • gerry2000

    Those inside the SUV are not stupid enough to fire the first shot against a battalion of mercenaries, that’s one thing for sure. Another thing is that this group were traveling just like anybody else and have not committed any crime when ambushed by these murderers. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KLPCCEL5ADIWVG7GICVNRNP3OA I Love This game

      Exactly! if they are the first to fire their weapons, their windows should be rolled down not rolled up….

      • gerry2000

        That’s right again! And using a handgun against a battalion would be stupid! 

  • gerry2000

    If what Manratrat said was true that it was Habitan who called him up that a group of armed men were traveling towards Manila, then there must have been a conspiracy here.. and it goes this way.. Rinnnnggggg! rinnngggg!

    Habitan : Yes, hello sir!

    Manratrat : I want to ask you for a favor, I knew you are close to Vic Siman. Siguro naman alam mo na na may banta sa akin ang taong yon. Gusto ko sana syang unahan kaya lang di ko mapasok ang lungga nya.

    Habitan : E sir mahirap po yata yan! E hindi po basta gumagala ang taong yon kasi nga alam na tinututukan mo sya e. 

    Manratrat : Kaya nga sayo ako lumapit kasi alam kong may magagawa ka. Ganito gagawin natin, akitin mo syang makipagsosyo sayo sa pagmimina ng ginto tapos papuntahin mo sya dyan para pumirma ng kontrata kunyari..

    Habitan : E sir, mahina ang kita ngayon dito e baka di pumayag yon. E big time po yon e.

    Manratrat : Madali lang yan, padalhan mo sya ng isang bar ng ginto galing dyan kunyari, ewan ko na lang kung hindi mamuti mata nun. Tyak mabilis pa sa alas kwatro na pupuntahan ka nun. Wag kang mag-alala akong bahala sayo. 

    Habitan : E sir, ano naman po balak nyong gawin sa kanya?

    Manratrat : Huhulihin  ko lang naman sya tutal may inihanda na akong kaso laban sa kanya, jueteng at gun for hire..

    Habitan : Ahh, o cge sir gagawin ko ang lahat para makumbinsi sya.. E sir, wala ho akong sabit dyan ha!

    Manratrat : Wag kang mag-alala pag-pabalik na namin sila titirahin, este, huhulihin para di masyadong halata at para makapaghanda pa kami. O cge, tatawagan ko pa si Col. Aswang para sa dagdag na pwersa. Txt-txt na lang..

    Habitan : K

    …abangan..

  • http://twitter.com/gilbs72 Gilbert Cunanan

    34 soldiers and policemen freely surrounding 13 men cramped in two vehicles. They were also in the middle of 3 checkpoints. Even if we believe their story that shots were fired from the vehicles, clearly the authorities still had the overwhelming advantage to control the situation and capture some of them alive. Either this Colonel is lying or making the entire Armed Forces look stupid and untrained. Primary objective is always to capture criminals alive di ba? But it seems either the soldiers panicked and unleashed panic fire, or were really ordered to eliminate everyone. Did they even determine whether there weren’t hostages or children behind those tinted windows? Sinong niloloko nyo?

  • katabay1106

    They fired in the air. Lt. Col. Abang sir bakit tadtad ng butas ang mga montero kung sa itaas kayo nagpaputok. Ano ba namang palusot yan?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HYCSJZQQM73RU4POSJKVPKZYJQ Johnny

      pre un mga bala galing itaas nagbagsakan sa Montero kya mdami tama hehehe

  • Guest

    Lagot na tayo kapag makalusot ang mga mamamatay-taong pulis at sundalo. Parati na lang tayong kakabahan tuwing daraan sa kanilang “check-point” at tuwing makakakita ng naka unipormeng may sandata. Ang pangyayaring ito ay hindi lang sa 13 pinatay nila. Ang taong-bayan ang tunay nilang biktima. Pinaslang nila ang hustiya at pagtitiwala ng lipunan sa kanilang madugong mga kamay.

  • Mamang Pulis

    kaya nalalagas ang SF dahil sa mga opisyal na tulad ni abang..

    naka abang lagi sa ‘lagay at parte’ nya sa jueteng…

  • boybakal

    Soldiers fired in the air’…

    I believe them, that they fired in the air.
    The NBI did not notice or see the scattered dead birds….
    Pipit, maya, kilyawan, uwak, pugo, ibon simbahan, pulak pulak, labuyo, kabag, tikling, tagak, layang layang and even kuwago.

    But these birds are beyond recognition because of heavy firepower much more cannot be eaten.

  • akoombulator

    best of m16 elimination rounds results: kuratong baleleng: 11 ampatuan: 58 atimonan: 13

  • buttones

    “Shooting had started so we fired warning shots” Are not warning shots fired BEFORE? Is the ‘retaliation’ spoken of usually just warning shots? Not only that, does this Abang character know what happens when shots are fired in the air? They tend to come down, and it was just recently this was proved, by a little girl dying from this irresponsible act…If the object of this event, which as yet has no name, shootout, massacre, rub out whatever having been discarded- and we await De Lima’ proper word- was to eliminate a bunch of ’criminals’ then ok, most would understand that, but it’s not really the way to go about administering ’justice’ in my opinion,…..is it….

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HYCSJZQQM73RU4POSJKVPKZYJQ Johnny

      AND NOW THEY HAVE BEEN WARNED…

      • buttones

        Yes it the same way I was ‘warned’ today about parking my truck in the wrong spot [in belonged to the Mayor] Naughty buttones!

  • Love God

    Psalm 1
    1 Blessed is the one    who does not walk in step with the wicked or stand in the way that sinners take    or sit in the company of mockers,2 but whose delight is in the law of the Lord,    and who meditates on his law day and night.3 That person is like a tree planted by streams of water,    which yields its fruit in seasonand whose leaf does not wither—    whatever they do prospers.
    4 Not so the wicked!    They are like chaff    that the wind blows away.5 Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment,    nor sinners in the assembly of the righteous.
    6 For the Lord watches over the way of the righteous,    but the way of the wicked leads to destruction.

  • Rolly257

    Nagbabarilan na, warning shots ang ganti. Good job!!!

  • m1600

    kawawang mga army excepT si ABANG mga biktima ng korupsyon ng pulis.

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