‘Atimonan 13 may not have fired guns’

Only 6 of the fatalities armed, says PNP exec

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No more than six of the 13 people slain in a supposed gun battle between government security forces and alleged criminals in Atimonan town, Quezon province, on Jan. 6 may have had guns in their hands during the shootout, a ranking government official told the Inquirer Sunday.

It is possible that there was no exchange of gunfire and that the guns reportedly recovered from the scene were planted to make it appear that those killed were armed, according to the official.

Investigators are piecing the facts together and it looks like the leader of the police team at the joint police-military checkpoint in Atimonan where the killings took place has a lot to explain, the source said.

The source, who was familiar with the investigation of the killings, said the fact-finding team created by the Philippine National Police noted “glaring inconsistencies” in the initial statements given by the policemen who took part in the Atimonan operation.

The inconsistencies in the initial police report and claims by relatives of those slain that the victims were summarily executed prompted President Aquino to order the National Bureau of Investigation to investigate the supposed shootout to determine what really happened.

On Sunday, Malacañang said the investigation would include the Presidential Anti-Organized Crime Commission (PAOCC), which knew about but disapproved the plan for the police operation that led to the supposed shootout in Atimonan.

Deputy presidential spokesperson Abigail Valte said the PAOCC would be investigated, but it was up to the investigators to determine where the buck stopped after the commission.

In a talk with reporters on Thursday, President Aquino said he expected to receive the results of the investigation “very, very soon.”

Police and military personnel involved in the supposed gun battle would be held liable for any violations of the law, Mr. Aquino said.

The initial police report said the 13 men aboard two sports utility vehicles opened fire when flagged down at a joint police-military checkpoint along Maharlika Highway in Barangay (village) Lumutan, Atimonan, prompting the security forces to return fire.

Police said the 13 men were members of a gun-for-hire gang and tests showed them positive for gunpowder, meaning they fired guns.

But as the Inquirer source explained it, it is possible that no exchange of gunfire happened at the checkpoint.

“There’s a reason to believe that not more than six of those killed were holding guns at the time of the alleged shootout,” said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was in progress.

Asked to elaborate, the source said some of the policemen who went to the scene disclosed that most of the guns taken from the slain men were actually found in the back of the two SUVs the group used.

The source said that while several of the slain men tested positive for gunpowder, it did not mean they fired guns.

Shot at close range

“It’s actually possible that they tested positive for gunpowder because they were shot at close range,” the source said.

“What the NBI and the PNP should do now is to find witnesses who could testify that the guns were really found in the back of the vehicles and that not all of the 13 had guns as initially reported by Marantan,” he said, referring to Supt. Hansel Marantan, leader of the police team at the checkpoint.

Marantan was the only one wounded among the 50 policemen and Army special forces involved in the supposed fire fight. He was reportedly hit in the left arm and leg.

The source said the PNP fact-finding team was able to secure photographs showing that two of the slain men did not have firearms.

“But in another set of pictures taken by Soco (scene of the crime operatives), it appeared that they had guns. So it’s possible that the guns were just placed near the bodies to make it appear that they traded shots with Marantan’s group,” the source said.

“It’s also possible that the pictures showing they had guns were taken before the Soco collected the guns and other pieces of evidence from the scene,” the source added.

“It’s now certain that Marantan will have a lot of explaining to do,” the source said.

Conflicting versions

The source said the policemen who took part in the operation also gave “conflicting versions” of how the supposed shootout started when the fact-finding team went to the site for a “reconstruction” of the incident.

“The policemen had different versions of what actually transpired,” the source said.

For instance, some of them claimed it was Chief Insp. Grant Gollod, the sacked Atimonan police chief, who flagged down the vehicles.

But others said it was actually Marantan who ordered the two vehicles to stop, the source added.

“That supposedly explains why only Marantan was hit in the exchange of gunfire,” the source said. “But if he really was standing that close to the vehicles, how did he avoid being fatally shot? There has to be an explanation for that.”

In the initial report, the police said the 13 killed were members of a gun-for-hire group in Calabarzon (Cavite, Laguna, Batangas, Rizal, Quezon), but it turned out that three of them were policemen and two were Air Force soldiers.

One of the slain policemen was Supt. Alfredo Consemino, deputy director of the Headquarters Support Group of the Mimaropa (Mindoro, Marinduque, Romblon, Palawan) police.

‘Coplan Armado’

Inquirer sources said the supposed shootout was the culmination of a three-month police operation called “Coplan Armado,” proposed by the intelligence unit of the Calabarzon police.

The coplan was submitted to the PAOCC. But the agency claimed it found the coplan potentially bloody and disapproved it.

The target of “Armado” was Victor “Vic” Siman, an alleged operator of the numbers racket “jueteng” in provinces south of Manila.

Siman was among the 13 killed in the supposed shootout in Atimonan.

The PAOCC, a body under the Office of the President, is headed by Executive Secretary Paquito Ochoa Jr.

Even without PAOCC approval and funding, however, the Calabarzon police intelligence unit went ahead with the operation, getting Siman but also killing 12 others not all of whom may be linked to his illegal business.

Sen. Panfilo Lacson, head of the Senate defense committee, on Sunday said the NBI investigation should determine whether there was “excessive use of force or violation of the rules of engagement” in the supposed shootout.

But there is one thing clear, Lacson said in an interview on radio, and that is the PAOCC was not involved in the police operation.

The PAOCC is a funding agency for such operations, but it does not take part in those operations, Lacson explained.

Senate inquiry

Also on Sunday, Sen. Ramon Revilla Jr. urged the “appropriate Senate committees” to inquire into the supposed shootout “in aid of legislation.”

“It must be determined whether the incident was a culmination of a three-month police operation under Coplan Armado, a case operational plan against organized crime groups in Calabarzon, or a rubout as asserted by the families of those who were killed,” Revilla said in an e-mailed statement.

Revilla said the number of those killed “makes an investigation imperative,” adding that the “initial findings” of the NBI “contradict the reports and findings of the Philippine National Police.”

The senator also expressed concern about the supposed shootout’s reported link to another such incident in Calamba City, which happened in November last year. Six people were killed in that reported shootout.

The Senate inquiry, Revilla said, should establish “if certain standard operating procedures in police operations were violated or [whether] there are loopholes in the existing SOPs.”

Police probers’ report

Chief Supt. Generoso Cerbo Jr., PNP spokesperson, said the report of the fact-finding team would not be made public.

Instead, the findings of the team, headed by Chief Supt. Federico Castro, would be directly submitted to the NBI, Cerbo told the Inquirer by phone.

“From what I know, the report will not be presented in a press conference. It’s up to the NBI to [review] the findings contained in the report,” Cerbo said. With reports from TJ Burgonio and Cathy Yamsuan

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  • MrJoseRizal

    Looks like it’s the same (S)orry (W)e (A)int (T)rained team from the Qurino Grand stand.

    • superpilipinas

      Nope not exactly.

      This time they were really trained…..for something else other than law enforcement.

  • boybakal

    Atimonan 13 may not have fired guns’….

    This is plain Common Sense.
    How could the Unlucky 13 fire guns….they are packed like Sardines.
    Siksikan, there is no room to move much more draw guns.

    Just like a duel inside a drum one holding an ax and the other blade…the one with blade won.

    • pinoy63

      tama  ka boy bakal!

    • Kairosphil

      kumita na iyan.. kulang talaga sa script si marantan.. hilaw.. valleverde gang pa.. dina nila mauuto ang mga tao!

    • http://www.facebook.com/tuzon.principe Tuzon Principe

      Ang sabi sa news, 2 SUV daw ang sinakyan ng unlucky 13. For sure, kung lumaban sila, eh inde lang sa paa at kamay ang tama ni Marantan.

    • Carlos_Iho

      If you see many well-positioned armed men with heavy weapons blocking you, would you even dare drawing your handgun while you are in a cramped vehicle with the windows up?  Soldiers and policemen have common sense, except the storytellers.

  • superpilipinas

    The fact that there are serious and severe doubts surrounding this case simply means our government has failed miserably to reform PNP. This is just a sample that AFP and other law enforcement agencies have the same problem. 

    There has been no proof ever that indicates PNP and the others are reformed even a little.

    • VeryDisgusted2

      Something very wrong with PNP Academy and PMA. Instead of producing “an officer and a gentleman” product, the institutions are producing low IQ robots and dangerous breed of criminals.

  • pinoy63

    kung millions millons ang pinag uusapan dito, ano ba naman yang sugat sa braso at paa kung malaki naman ang………..

    • Carlos_Iho

      Talagang marunong lang gumawa ng script, kaso di maibenta.  Akala siguro ang mga tao kasing tanga nya.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    Ang sabi ni Maratrat doon sa TV interview…he took the bullet intended for Golloid….
    Attention NBI…Examined all Maratrat statements…ang daming conflicting utterances !!!!
    Dapat ipa lie detector din iyang 50 scalawags…convict them according to their degree of participation!!! Ang pasimuno dapat bitayin !!!!

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/iV0XkkNontlsHWTkG2jcuz.PB64A#6b054 F alonso

      bitayin mo ang mga taong pumatay ng mga organized crime syndicates?Si Seaman loloko at yung Foolish Col. nasa listahan ni Bishop Cruz.It doesn’t mean they’re police and military officers,then they are excemption to the rule as accomplice.Bakit nasa listahan ni Bishop si Col. kung di nga naman ito mga sama samang kriminal.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

        Kung involve man sila sa illegal gambliing….E dapat kasohan at hulihin…Nakuha mo ? Pag tinutukan ka ng 25Army special force sa likod mo at 25 Pulpol Police sa harap…kakasa ka ng nakatayo lang at hindi nga kumasa ang mga biktima,they could have bolted away kung hindi sila trinaidor ? Common sense lang…isa ka segurong Pul Police…

    • Kairosphil

      ang kasinungaligan kahit anong gawing pagtatakip.. sisingaw iyan! sa mga kasama na nag checkpoint.. ingat kayo.. baka isaisahin na rin kayo para wala na makapagsasalita ng katotohonan.

    • VeryDisgusted2

      “…he took the bullet intended for Golloid..”

      So Marantan claimed to be a hero saving the life of Golloid. How corny naman ang murderer na eto.

  • tata_boy

    napakahina ng mga imbestigador ng NBI, dapat lahat ng partisipante ay ilagay sa kanya-kanyang kuwarto at sabay-sabay na kunan ng statement, di sila puwedeng makalabas ng kuwarto hanggat di nila natatapos ang kanilang statement. mahirap ba itong gawin? Within a few minutes the truth will come out. tsk-tsk-tsk sayang naman ang bayad sa mga ito, pulos mga inutil.  

    • Kairosphil

      sabi ng nbi wala daw witness sa incident… yun mga bumira un mismo pwedeng witnesses.. korek ka diyan.. isaisahin lang ang mga involved malalaman na….sigurado iyan lalabas ang totoo.. o kaya bigay sila reward kundi magunahan ang mga hinayupak na mag witness!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    The case has become similar to Kuratong Baleleng ang even worse.

  • w4d

    Unfortunately, this will be another unsolved case, citing the fact that there is no witness available. Our law enforcement are not trained to solve crimes using their instinct so this will be filed under cold cases. Heck, they can’t even solve cases with super credible witnesses in front of them.

    Surely, one of the operative during the operation knows what truly happened, but guess what, duwag din lahat ‘yan.

    • Carlos_Iho

      They have to be charged with multiple murder and it’s up to them to prove their innocence in court.  The burden of proving there was a shootout is on them.  None of those killed had an arrest warrant or pending case warranting summary execution.

  • Commentator

    It seems the Philippines do not have an independent agency to investigate police every time someone is killed or hurt. I thought the National Police Commission is supposed to investigate this but it might not be so.


    kakahiya maging militar at pulis. nakakahiya talaga. yung marunong mahiya, linisin na ninyo ang ranggo nyo. vigilante style din. siguradong hindi na uulit ang mga kriminal sa hanay nyo pag nakalibing na mga iyan. sige na. parang awa nyo na. nakakahiya talaga kayo.

    • VeryDisgusted2

      I agree 100% to this impression.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYAZBOJYIUCRLWTYJBORBVTTOI boyfarmer

    Operatives should  be required to use video cam to record activities in checkpoints especially when they begin to flag down vehicles of suspects to avoid rub out incidents. Police patrol in USA have video cams in their car’s dash board. Watch in you tube police chases, they got video cams rolling to record the incidents.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

    Ayon  sa isang balita, nagugat pala ito ng pinapatay ni Siman ang lahat ng sagabal sa kanyang pajueteng. Una daw pinapatay ay ang kanyang kasosyo sa jueteng na si Engelbert Aquino ng ito raw ay tumangging sumosyo kay Siman sa palaro sa Calamba. Pati si Chief of police Senior Insp. Nestor Sardina ng Sta Maria, Laguna na inambush subalit hindi napuruhan ay kagagawan daw ng grupo ni Siman.  Gayon din kay operation officer ng Cabuyao City police insp. Romeo Criste na inambush at napatay. Dahil dito bumuo ng “Case Operation Plan:Armado na ang case Officer ay si Supt, Hansel Marantan na deputy regional intelligence chief ng Police Regional Office 4-A sa CALABARZON. Sina Vic Siman, at Nestor “Jr castillo” Pera Banog ang kanilang target. Napatay Banog at limang iba pa sa isang police operation sa brgy Lccheria sa Calamba City, si Supt Marantan ang team leader. Dito nagalit si Siman kay Marantan dahil yung mga napatay ay mga kolektor ng jueteng ni Siman… Kaya ng makita ni Siman sa checkpoint si Marantan ay agad nila itong pinaputukan. Kaya niratrat ng mga nagaabang na mga pulis at army ang dalawang sasakyan…

    • $20722540

      kong minamanmanan na umaga palang daw yong siman group sabi ni marantan at alam niya na ang iflag-flag niya ay ang siman group (armed & dangerous including death threats to him), bakit siya ang isang taong nagflag sa kanila sa checkpoint?  baka gusto niyang magpakamatay?

    • doncleo

       Naniwala ka naman?

    • legnasagra

      di naman talaga si Siman ang target ng operation kundi ang kanilang cargo na pinoprotektahan, ano man ang cargo na yun ay tiyak napakahalaga kaya napakaraming security. sa tingin ko kahit ang informate ng mga pulis na umambush ay kasama at isa sa mga pasaherong biktima

    • VeryDisgusted2

      It looks this “balita” is from Marantan.

    • speaksoftlylove

       Ikaw ba yan Ping o si Dumlao ka?

    • batangpaslit

      ang ganitong trabaho, kung sino ang naunang bumunot ng baril, sia ang lamang. kung magaling siang bumaril, patay ang kalaban

    • Carlos_Iho

      Isang insidente lang ang daming kwento.  Parang naging alamat na.  Ano naman kaya ang susunod na version nito?

      Ang tatanga pala nung mga nasa SUV.  Kahit sang katerba na armadong tao na puro naka assault rifle ang hawak at pistol lang ang nasa kanila, naniwala pa rin silang na kakayanin nila.  Parang pelikula siguro ang akala nila.  Ang galing nitong magkwento.

      • Dean Martin

        Ampatuan Masacre nabasa mo n b yun?

  • boybakal

    Even in Swift Justice there is partiality.
    Weeks ago, Gen.Espino now governor was tagged as Jueteng Lord in Pangasinan by the mayor.
    So what happened, the news died down.
    For sure, di kaya ng mga police or militar and even in the gov’t si General Espino.
    Maraming aalma kung si General.

    Siman and Co. were unknown, nobody knew them until they were killed by firing squad.
    We don’t even know that he is in jueteng or loterya ng bayan operator.
    There was plan to mowed them down and they did.
    Yon kaya lang ang binibira, may kinatatakutan din.

    Swift Justice…there is partiality in executing Undue Process .

    • batangpaslit

      ang tunay na Jueteng Lord, umiiwas ng press release

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SYG36KOOLRY47VA3ICPJJ5CQTQ ADD

    Publish the rules of engagement on the internet so everyone can know the correct processes.
    The public should know their rights.

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    While the investigation is going on, there is another war raging on in the media. There is clearly an ongoing demolition job to destroy the reputation of the 13 victims, especially Jun Lontok. Without Jun Lontok the environmentalist, the entire Quezon Massacre could be dismissed as scalawags robbing and rubbing out fellow scalawags. At least that’s the narrative being peddled by those who wish to hush it up as if it never happened. Unlike Ninoy who hooked up with the Huks and NPAs and openly admitted so, there is no evidence to suggest that Jun Lontok was on the wrong side of the law. Even then, Ninoy was immersing himself in the countryside to better understand the lives of the disenfranchised. If the powers that be succeed in discrediting the dead environmentalist Jun Lontok, this case will be as good as closed. No justice for Jun Lontok and the 13 families. PNoy’s administration will appear as decisive and capable in resolving heinous crimes which in turn will boost the chances of the administration’s LP candidates. Marantan gets to walk, albeit in crutches, and Lacson gets to retain his title as the undisputed and unconvicted Rub-Out King. It is not in the interest of the administration nor the powers that be to allow Jun Lontok the environmentalist to make them look bad.

    At this point, only Jun Lontok can save Jun Lontok. We, the powerless citizenry, can only pray that Jun Lontok continues to stick out like a green sore thumb to the powers that be, in life as it is in death.

    • batangpaslit

      tama ka Bro….media war. kung sino ang makabayad ng malaki sa Press Release gets the mileage of news kuno

  • $20722540

    if marantan was receiving death threats from the siman group as claimed by marantan and he knows that they flagging down the same group at the checkpoint, why would he (marantan) do it himself?  its like committing suicide, diba?  why not allow the other team members to it?  obviously, they failed to follow a script done before the alleged shootout.

    • speaksoftlylove

       If the ambushed group of Siman “might not have fired guns” then maybe an ET from high heavens is the sharpshooter who shot Maratrat twice without intending to kill him. Nice script Maratrat but your injury is simply too unbelievable.

    • batangpaslit

      malay mo eh fatalistic ‘yong tao? he gets high to see blood spilled.

  • koaks2

    marami ka ng tinumba marantan. the same modus, checkpoint then, shootout. at nalulusutan  mo mga kasong isinampa sau wala ka ng kawala dito..

  • speaksoftlylove

    Bukas o samakalawa ang headline ay: “Kupalan Operation may not have fired guns.”

    Sa bandang huli yong grupo ni GMA ang salarin, wanna bet?

    Hala sige, dagdagan na ng panibagong kaso ng massacre yan para heinous crime at unbailable ulit.

  • Rovingmoron

    This is hard to believe and the reports emanating from the alleged shootout are getting murky. As the investigation drags on, many unwanted scenarios are coming out, adding to the confusions for the public to understand the truth. In the previous reports, it was learned that all the guns inside the SUVs were duly licensed. Whose names the guns were licensed? If the guns were planted, how come the guns’ licenses, if there is any, were in the names of those killed? Would it be possible for the check point cops to run to the Firearms and Explosive Division to secure licenses for the said guns, after the shootout? And then planted them inside the SUVs?

    • batangpaslit

      Tsong, press release nga ito, eh, in the guise of news reports. depende ‘yan kung magkano ang binayad
      ito ang hanapbuhay ni Mr Dacer ng buhay pa sia. taga sulat nang press release at ipa publish under the byline of a news reporto—-presto, news na.

      • Rovingmoron

        Yan mahirap eh. Now the credibility of the media is again put at stake here. Who is telling the truth? The mediamen or the sources of the news? Lumalabo ata ang katotohonan.

      • batangpaslit

        sinabi mo pa
        eh, maiba ako Tsong.
        bright naman ang mga blog mo. eh, bakit pinili mo ang “moron” na suffix?
        hayaan mo nang mainggit ang iba at sabihing mayabang ka
        may ipag mayabang naman

    • Carlos_Iho

      Or, if you would understand it correctly, their own guns were planted on them to show that they have drawn their weapons despite the stupidity of doing so when confronted and outnumbered by heavily armed men.

  • cantonese

     Should you change the title of this case as THE MASSACRE OF ANTIMONAN 13? Nagtatanong lang po si Ka Indo.

    • batangpaslit

      depende ‘yan kung magkano ang ibinayad sa press release circulated in the guise as news reports….hehehe

  • speaksoftlylove

    The first time this news was published by PDI, I replied to a perpetual heckler of my post that, “Kahaaponka  lang pinanganak dahil di mo kilala ang mga kapulisan ng Pilipinas.” I told him that he is unaware of such terms as set up, frame up, or inducement, all of which are illegal police tactics. Now look what we have here? It seems that my initial hunch might be correct after all.

    • batangpaslit

      illegal drugs
      illegal gambling
      illegal shooting
      illegal police operation

      is matched with gossips circulated in the guise of news reports. whoever pays the highest for the press release their version gets published.

  • dodong1

    It is possible that there was no exchange of gunfire and that the guns reportedly recovered from the scene were planted to make it appear that those killed were armed, according to the official. PAKI ISPLIKA MO NGAYON YAN KERNEL MARATNAN!!

  • anu12345

    “PNP fact-finding team was able to secure photographs showing that two of the slain men did not have firearms. But in another set of pictures taken by Soco (scene of the crime operatives), it appeared that they had guns.”

    It’s magic.  I recall what happened to Eddie Fernandez. His dead body showed his right hand was holding a gun but his family said he was left handed

    • Jason Cruz

      Kaya nga ang PNP puro kalokohan ang nga iyan.   They are the most corrupt organization in the country.    Pres. Pinoy knew there is something fishy that’s is why he order NBI to investigate.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7IGQYIPU6AFTVRJ742XT2X44M4 Jef

    “The policemen had different versions of what actually transpired,some of them claimed it was Chief Insp. Grant Gollod, the sacked Atimonan police chief, who flagged down the vehicles the others said it was actually Marantan who ordered the two vehicles to stop. Not different but identical both they raise their hand to stop the vehicle but instead of stopping they fired upon so they retaliated in short SHOOTOUT.  Sen. Ramon Revilla Jr. urged the “appropriate Senate committees” to inquire into the supposed shootout “in aid of legislation.” gusto nyo na naman magpasikat wala na makinig sa inyo…linisin nyo muna bakuran nyo wala na kayong cridibilidad bago kayo mag imbistiga ibalik nyo muna 1.6 million gift taxpayer money MAHIYA NAMAN KAYO.  

    • Dean Martin

      Dapat magkaroon ng Senate inquiry na bakit may bobo at mang mang na senador, para makagawa ng batas na hindi sapat ang pagiging popular na artista para maging Senador.

  • batangpaslit

    lokohan na itong news reports

    ang mga nalathala yata rito eh hindi news reports, kundi press release.
    sigurado, bukas, kung sino ang makabigay ng PR funds na medyo malaki-laki, sa kanya pabor ang press release in the guise of news report.

    akalain mo, sabi, ang result ng fact finding team ng police hindi ma publish publicly; kundi sa NBI lamang maibigay.

    but in the meantime, palabasan lang muna ng tsimis ang bawa’t kampo….hehehe

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XIDO4V2FQAQ6UPUCBXYOODPLAA drunken_master

    lumang tugtugin na yan…

    “Tulad mo, Baleleng, ang isang mutya…”

  • bogli_anakdami

    “atimonan masaker?.. kelan, saan, at anong nangyari doon?…

    ay sus ginoo, di totoo, yan… gawa-gawa lang yan ng mga tsimosang magba-balot at traysikad drayber…

    • jolly_baby

       baliw lang hehehehe

  • Barak_O

    crappy news reporting

  • Simplify1

    Simple questions:

    1.  Were there warrants of arrest for any of the 13?

    2.  If there were warrants, why did the police set up the checkpoint, when they could have easily served the warrants in broad day light in their respective residences, then no one would have been killed .  These people killed were not really “fugitives from the law” like the Reyes brothers of Palawan…

    3.  If they did not have any warrants, why were these 13 accosted in the first place? This only proves Marantan’s way of putting the law in his hands. 

    4.  Marantan has been involved in numerous questionable gunfights, all instances wherein Marantan used the cover of darkness, used superior force and always included “collateral damage”.

    5.  Marantan’s handler, Dumlao, is no longer credible given all his questionable affidavits, counter affidavits, retractions relative to his and Lacson’s involvement in the Dacer-Corbito case.  REGARDLESS whether his involvement in this Atimonan was legit or not, people will never believe him!!  In the first place, how was this perjurer even re-instated in the military?

    6.  Everything simply stinks!  

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/WNJTQYHM4B5XMJAU6PCPFHYSSQ Francisco

      Marantan, Dumlao, Ping Lacson itong mga ito hindi lalaban ng parehas. Kasi mga duwag sila. Kung matapang sila bakit hindi sila makaharap ng parehas – walang lamangan! Kito ninyo si Lacson tumatakbo sa away. Kung siya ay matapang di hinarap niya si Gloria. Si Binay kahit kurap di tumatakbo!

      • niceguy60

        They were able to get away with crime it seems.

      • IbigMongSabihin

        ibig mong sabihin ay hindi katapangang ang ipinakita ni Lacson ng hinarap niya si Pnoy after na bigyan siya ng go-signal ni Pnoy na lumabas na sa lungga at maging senador na muli.

    • superpilipinas

      you have to understand how search and arrest warrants are used. google it.

  • boybakal

    Kung tutuusin ang may kasalanan ng lahat, yan Massacre 13 ay si Bishop Cruz.
    Siya ang may hawak ng Lastillas at Plantilla ng mga Jueteng Operator.
    So, napressure na ring tong gobyerno, dahil nga talak ng talak tong si Bishop Cruz.
    Dapat siya ang sampahan ng kaso…Master Instigator.

    Just think…is Jueteng a disease a menace to society.
    Wala naman akong nabalitaan na nagpakamatay, mag asawa naghiwalay dahil sa pagtaya sa jueteng.
    O di kaya di napagaral ang anak dahil tumataya sa jueteng yon magulang.
    Or nangholdap or nangkidnap para pantaya sa jueteng.
    Unlike drugs, kitang kita ang resulta, maraming pumapatay pag high, nangholdap pag high.
    Yan ang sugpuin, drugs a cancer to society.

    Kaya dapat idemanda tong si Bishop Cruz.

    • bogli_anakdami

      hay naku, boybakal… excommunicated ka… di ka palulusutin sa gate ni san pedro pagdating mo sa langit… hanggang purgatoryo ka lang…

    • superpilipinas

      he-he-he. nasa listahan ka ba ni Cruz? ikaw yata ang naprepressure. naku mahal ang gamot sa blood pressure.

    • IbigMongSabihin

      ibig mong sabihin ay may utak ka na galit sa mga taong cause-oriented dahil sa kanilang pagbabandera sa madlang pinoy ng mga tiwaling gawain at mga taong tumatabo ng milyones sa ganoong gawain. ahhh, ayaw mong ma pressure ang gobyernong inutil ng findings ng cause-oriented individuals or groups.        

    • wehd1nga

      ano pa hinihintay mo eh di idemenda mo!

    • Jason Cruz

      Si Bishop Cruz na nga ang nagsasabi kung sino ang nga jueteng lord eh.    Sabi nya Si Ochoa, Puno at si Gen Bartolome hindi intresado na pugsain yang jueteng na yan.

      Gusto mo pabayaan na lang ang jueteng,    Sila sila na lang kung anong no. ang manananlo.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Charles-Lynel-F-Joven/685946584 Charles Lynel F. Joven

    shut up Bong Revilla..you know nothing…. go back to showbizness….And ping Lacson,,maybe you should teach those cops how to do the perfect “rubout”…

  • Melanio Calayeg

    So this is another classical case of  RUB OUT……….

    • superpilipinas

      Yes, “classic” as in wala man lang pagbabago. Mag hire naman sila ng film director para naman may originality.

      Pare-pareho na lang. Alam na ng mga tao nangyari diyan!

      • Loggnat

         I read before that there was a third SUV that got away. Is there an epidemic of amnesia in the Philippines? Even the Media is hardly mentioning or reporting about the 3rd vehicle, that is definitely can be classified as witnesses because they were present in the scene of the shooting. Maybe there was somebody important in that vehicle??? or maybe it is not true that there was another vehicle that got away. Either way, it needs to be confirmed one way or the other. I think.

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        hehehe, naalala ko nanaman si Galman.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/EE5LMUQHMXD2Q3PBSSDKBMG7VI Rexy

        okay, sabi ng director, pasok bong !!!

  • eirons1043

    The current rules on evidence as accepted by the Judiciary is- No witness No case. Therefore, if no credible witness appears the Atimonan Massacre will just be dribbled and forgotten until the next gory news comes along. Anyway if that happens it might also be good coz the group that was ambush, if they have balls will just retaliate and finished the Maratrat group. Unless of course if Maratrat is promoted as head honcho of the PNP ala then Ping Lacson of the PAOCTF.



  • dani77777

    Of these 50 policemen who are involved in the shootout or rubout, someone with a conscience come out please?

    You owe it to the Filipino people and the One above.

  • IbigMongSabihin

    kung bakit naman coincidence yata na mula ng last presidential election ay nagsimula maglitawan ang ganitong klase ng series of conflicting news na parang press releases ang dating, the purpose of which ay either na pabanguhin o ikondena ang isang sector depende sa intention ng writer. there were reports hen that this type of journalism ay ginagamit lamang ng isang political group to demonize somebody up there, so it was then tolerated and expected that this type of irresponsiible journalism ay mawawala rin after the election year. but it is unfortunate na hindi nawala ito at lalo pa yatang nag hybrid at ginagamit na ngayon ng maraming sectors sa bansa. this is one of the devils of politics na namana during the last presidential election.

    • Cobra

      this is always the case in a free willing press like in the Phils.News are mostly done in the eyes of the reporters w/ some changes from the editors so we just have to choose the grain from the chap so to speak.Siyempre maski sinong nasa puder nandoon karamihan ang panig ng news pasalamat tayo at mayron pa ring nagbibigay ng ibang side of the story.Mas mahirap kpag ang press ay entirely convinced of the supposedly truth like what happen when the whole world was made to believe by majority & big news org about Iraq’s supposedly WMD.The american propaganda was taken hook line & sinker.Now we know better but what a sad consequence.So we have to be careful as well about this situation in our country.

  • James McTangay

    eto na…senate inquiry daw. Ubos na naman ang pera ni Juan dela Cruz.

    • speaksoftlylove

      Si Lacson ang mangunguna sa “Senate Inquiry.”

      Lacson: Rubout ba ang nangyari?

      Dumlao: Para ka namang timang dyan boss eh di,,, hindi.

      Lacson: Case dismissed your honor, no evidence.

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

         Senate inquiry in aid of ‘legislation’ lang naman kaya ni senate. Siguro, ang pinaka malaking makukuha natin dito ay ma revisit ang rules of engagement, and afterwards.  Kasi ang daming kapalpakan talaga after the fact.

      • Edward Castro

        may rules naman kaso di naman sinusunod kasi may ibang agenda “dead men tell no tales”

  • wehd1nga

    PNP na mismo ang may sabi “AMBUSH” at hindi shootout o armed rncounter ang nangyari sa Atimonan Quezon.

  • Komen To

    First they fired at Maratrat so were all fired upon and killed, because they were gun 4 hires. Maratrat flagged down the group. Then they were jueteng Lords. Then blood and slippers of one killed were found away from the crime scene suggesting he was able to run (alive of course). Lontok was a environmentalist fighting for the farmers and the poor. Consemino had no bad records. The target was Siman and the rest were collateral damages. There were no warrants issued against Siman. Now the 13 may not have fired their guns. Now it’s Gollod who flagged down.

    If they were gun 4 hires carrying long firearms, why was Maratrat hit only in the arm and leg, missing his body, a much bigger target? If .45 cal were shots, did they find any slugs? Hmmmm. Even a scriptwriter may find it difficult to connect the events and make an ending

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EE5LMUQHMXD2Q3PBSSDKBMG7VI Rexy

      how about asking bong reveilla? sa shooting ginagawa iyon>

  • brunogiordano

    “Inquirer sources said the supposed shootout was the culmination of a three-month police operation called “Coplan Armado,” proposed by the intelligence unit of the Calabarzon police.
    The coplan was submitted to the PAOCC. But the agency claimed it found the coplan potentially bloody and disapproved it.
    The target of “Armado” was Victor “Vic” Siman, an alleged operator of the numbers racket “jueteng” in provinces south of Manila.”

    Ano ang talagang OBJECTIVE ng Coplan Amado????

    Ang objective ba ay patayin lang si “Vic” at hindi hulihin?????

    Kung si “Vic” lang ang napatay, OK lang ba iyon dahil hindi masyadong MADUGO?????

  • Mattino2011

    Kakatakot pala ang checkpoint pag ganun klaseng Pulis ang mag checkpoint…Isang kisap mata ..bangkay ka na

  • RiverHorse

    solution: disarm irresponsible policemen, in other words, patalsikin sa pagkapulis at ikulong!

  • Atawid

    You cannot fire back if the car windows were closed so, if the victims fired first that means that the windows were opened. The investigators can determine if that is true by simply tracing the bullets holes on the doors and if there are no matched holes on the glass then we know who is lying

    • speaksoftlylove

       A picture of the SUV with a presidential seal shows a bullet hole on a closed window.

  • speedstream2

    Curiouser and curiouser, but will we ever find out the truth about the the Atimonan incident?

  • bagombong

    papasok ulit ang senate, hindi lang ubos ang pera ni juan de cruz, kundi puro lang tanong at wala rin naman sila magagawa at ni wala naman mapaparusahan, bakit pa kailangan nilang mag-imbestiga , para saan ulit ang gagawin nila.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EE5LMUQHMXD2Q3PBSSDKBMG7VI Rexy

      malapit na ang election kaya ganoon??

  • Jason Cruz

    Mismo yung PNP Soco nagtatakip ng krimen, nagkataon merong isang picture na walang dalang baril yung namatay at isang picture na may baril na malapit sa kanya,   Hindi na kaya ng PNP SOCO na itago ito kaya mapipilitan silang si Marantan.   Wait tayo sa NBI findings 

  • anu12345

    “Chief Supt. Generoso Cerbo Jr., PNP spokesperson, said the report of the fact-finding team would not be made public.”

    Ano ‘yung nabasa ko sa kabila na na lumabas na ang report – na ito ay ambush at hindi shootout? Duda ko, baka naliliitan sa protection money.

  • pangilenio

    isa na namang balita na hindi sana nasulat…una walang  malinaw na source.Bakit hindi na lang hintayin ang kahihinatnan na imbestigasyon ng NBI

    • jolly_baby

       Di daw ilalabas sa public result ng investigation.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RTHTG4OTWSQVU6JEGUDCIO5QFU GEORGE

    It seems there is a rivalry among the protectors here? And they used the media to confuse the public. I don’t know who is telling the truth.

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

       One thing I know, the dead cannot tell anything…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CRBW2RJR4WNWVIDZVSCLFQK4KQ Spike

    as usual in the philippines nothing is solved – we have stupid and corrupt leaders and stupid and corrupt  lawmen

  • Vertumnus

    When it comes to police work, the PNP is at the bottom of the list!  After SOCO went over the ambush site, guess what the NBI forensic team found?  More bullets and bullet casings.  Seems to me PNP is trying to cover their own incompetence. 

    With NPA you expect extortion.
    With MILF you expect terrorism.
    With PNP you expect criminals wearing a badge.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYCOAGIL35OAIRH2T6QH3IZUMY Ike

    nakuuu sasawsaw na naman sa eksena itong si Bonggambilla!! Pwede bang ayusin nya muna yung problema ng mga kapatid nyang nagpapatayan dahil sa allowance ng tatay nya!! Sino isasali nya komisyon nya, Si Ping Lacson na pinagtakpan dati ng bataan nyang si Supt Glenn Dumlao na isa rin sangkot. Sa bulsa ba nila manggagaling yun budget nila? Hindi po!!! Pera ng bayan. Tapos me mangyayari ba sa mga pagtatanung nila? Wala rin!!
      Whether this coplan is an approved operation or not, one thing is certain: excessive and unnecessary force was used. 2nd car have about 50 bullet holes compared to about 200 in the 1st car. Some should have at least reach the hospital alive to give accounts of what had happend. It seems those manning the checkpoint made sure no one will survive, even those un-armed insurance agent. They can easily check if there are gunpowder residue inside the cars. If there is none then it means the occupants did not fire their guns at all.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EE5LMUQHMXD2Q3PBSSDKBMG7VI Rexy

      ha ha ha, syempre makikisawsaw na naman si bong revilla, para mawala ang isyo tungkol doon sa starlet ng gma na pakikialaman niya. he he he, ang ganda naman at batang bata. tama ka, saw saw na naman pero iyong kaso ng mga kapatid niya, hindi na pinansin. patayan din iyon di ba? baket wala siyang ginawa?? hay naku !! 

  • $40586212

    wow, lumalabas na naman sa media ang findings ng mga imbestigador…tampered evidence na lahat niyan…tapon na sa basura. Lumalabas na sa media e wala pa sa korte…ano ba ‘yan? Dalhin sa korte mga ‘yan at suriin ng mabuti para malaman ang katotohanan…huwag sa media…stupid.  Very unprofessional ang mga ito. Sino ba ang head ng investigation na ito. Bakit laging may leak sa media?  Dapat protectahan ang mga evidences hanggat di makarating sa korte. Naku, kung ako ang judge, inadmissible lahat niyan.

  • antonio_luna

    our lawmen and officials are not stupid just plainly corrupt.  they work for the betterment of the people they choose to serve…..themselves

  • $40586212

    anong palagay niyo, mga NBI ba ay trusted?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EE5LMUQHMXD2Q3PBSSDKBMG7VI Rexy

      di ang mga NBI ay nagbabarilan din, sa office pa nga at doon din umiinom? paano na kaya iyon??

      • $40586212

        Grabe ang mga nasa gobierno natin…you don’t know who to trust. Paano kung ang mga NBI ay kasali rin sa jueteng tapos magsubmit din sila ng mga false evidences. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3UAABFPUE5ZKBXOAGLWL6POGWU joel genese

      Hindi sila trusted pero impartial sila sa kasong yan kasi hindi sila kasali!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Romy-Solina/1482411642 Romy Solina

    Wala akong nababasa na may testimonya na galing sa mga sundalo ng Special Forces. Lahat yata ng ulat na nalalathala ay galing sa pulis na sangkot sa bakbakan. Ano kaya ang kuwento ng mga sundalo — sila ay “support” lang ng mga pulis.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EE5LMUQHMXD2Q3PBSSDKBMG7VI Rexy

      oo nga ano?? nandoon din ang mga ibang tao. baket kaya hindi sila kasali??

  • buttones

    It’s ok Mr Lacson, we understand Mr Lacson, we know the PAOCC quango was not involved Mr Lacson, stop going on about it Mr Lacson, we get the point Mr Lacson calm down Mr Lacson….What we all knew of course from the very beginning is that the whole affair stank, something was not right, and the information being given to the media was in fact a load of tripe, nobody believes a policeman Mr Lacson, nobody trusts a policeman, you should know that Mr Lacson ….So don’t worry Mr Lacson, nobody is blaming your ‘boss’ directly-[ ie Mr Aquino, funny eh that he’s your boss and I’m Aquino’s ‘boss?] and I’m sure that if naughty things have happened, then we have 13 more homicides to add to our record breaking statistics on the matter and ‘heads will roll’ , or something like that……

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EA7TIY7PYXEU5UOXG2K5CY5F64 Eric

    Hoy!!! Dalawang linggo na!….di pa ba luto?

  • Concade

    Buti na lang pala hindi sa Mall nakita ng mga manghuhuli na pulis si Vic Siman.. Kung nagkataon pala baka libo-libo ang patay hahaha!

  • gabbybal

    Wait kasi sa final report… media talaga… reporting half truth para lang mabenta ang newspaper

  • PerfectPoster

    Sigh. The media is sensationalizing this news by creating multiple versions of the story. Bad news sells, as usual. But please, let us wait for findings before prejudging our men and women in uniforms.

  • jolly_baby

    Bakit kaya pinapalabas na SOURCE, pwede namang sabihing speculative reporting lang yan para makatulong sa pag investigate. Pero kulang pa rin.. do better.

  • Vincent Puig

    Overkill! Deadman tells no tales.

  • Cheryl Joy Estrada-Lumapas

    ipadala nyo na kasi sina PANDAY,ENTENG AT SI AKO!!! tawagin mo na sila sen. bong at iwasiwas ang espada mo panday

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q3QGG5QHBLRMZTIYWUFURY6J2E Night

    in aid of election si revilla susme

  • $40586212

    Paano kung ang mga NBI ay kasali rin sa jueteng tapos magsubmit din sila ng mga false evidences. Dapat ang mag-imbestiga diyan ay galing sa Interpol para walang bias.

  • Magsasaka

    katapusan na ba ito ng PAPUTOK at PAMUMUGO ni marantan?

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