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RANKING GOV’T EXEC SAYS

‘Atimonan 13 may not have fired guns’

Only 6 of the fatalities armed, says PNP exec

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No more than six of the 13 people slain in a supposed gun battle between government security forces and alleged criminals in Atimonan town, Quezon province, on Jan. 6 may have had guns in their hands during the shootout, a ranking government official told the Inquirer Sunday.

It is possible that there was no exchange of gunfire and that the guns reportedly recovered from the scene were planted to make it appear that those killed were armed, according to the official.

Investigators are piecing the facts together and it looks like the leader of the police team at the joint police-military checkpoint in Atimonan where the killings took place has a lot to explain, the source said.

The source, who was familiar with the investigation of the killings, said the fact-finding team created by the Philippine National Police noted “glaring inconsistencies” in the initial statements given by the policemen who took part in the Atimonan operation.

The inconsistencies in the initial police report and claims by relatives of those slain that the victims were summarily executed prompted President Aquino to order the National Bureau of Investigation to investigate the supposed shootout to determine what really happened.

On Sunday, Malacañang said the investigation would include the Presidential Anti-Organized Crime Commission (PAOCC), which knew about but disapproved the plan for the police operation that led to the supposed shootout in Atimonan.

Deputy presidential spokesperson Abigail Valte said the PAOCC would be investigated, but it was up to the investigators to determine where the buck stopped after the commission.

In a talk with reporters on Thursday, President Aquino said he expected to receive the results of the investigation “very, very soon.”

Police and military personnel involved in the supposed gun battle would be held liable for any violations of the law, Mr. Aquino said.

The initial police report said the 13 men aboard two sports utility vehicles opened fire when flagged down at a joint police-military checkpoint along Maharlika Highway in Barangay (village) Lumutan, Atimonan, prompting the security forces to return fire.

Police said the 13 men were members of a gun-for-hire gang and tests showed them positive for gunpowder, meaning they fired guns.

But as the Inquirer source explained it, it is possible that no exchange of gunfire happened at the checkpoint.

“There’s a reason to believe that not more than six of those killed were holding guns at the time of the alleged shootout,” said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was in progress.

Asked to elaborate, the source said some of the policemen who went to the scene disclosed that most of the guns taken from the slain men were actually found in the back of the two SUVs the group used.

The source said that while several of the slain men tested positive for gunpowder, it did not mean they fired guns.

Shot at close range

“It’s actually possible that they tested positive for gunpowder because they were shot at close range,” the source said.

“What the NBI and the PNP should do now is to find witnesses who could testify that the guns were really found in the back of the vehicles and that not all of the 13 had guns as initially reported by Marantan,” he said, referring to Supt. Hansel Marantan, leader of the police team at the checkpoint.

Marantan was the only one wounded among the 50 policemen and Army special forces involved in the supposed fire fight. He was reportedly hit in the left arm and leg.

The source said the PNP fact-finding team was able to secure photographs showing that two of the slain men did not have firearms.

“But in another set of pictures taken by Soco (scene of the crime operatives), it appeared that they had guns. So it’s possible that the guns were just placed near the bodies to make it appear that they traded shots with Marantan’s group,” the source said.

“It’s also possible that the pictures showing they had guns were taken before the Soco collected the guns and other pieces of evidence from the scene,” the source added.

“It’s now certain that Marantan will have a lot of explaining to do,” the source said.

Conflicting versions

The source said the policemen who took part in the operation also gave “conflicting versions” of how the supposed shootout started when the fact-finding team went to the site for a “reconstruction” of the incident.

“The policemen had different versions of what actually transpired,” the source said.

For instance, some of them claimed it was Chief Insp. Grant Gollod, the sacked Atimonan police chief, who flagged down the vehicles.

But others said it was actually Marantan who ordered the two vehicles to stop, the source added.

“That supposedly explains why only Marantan was hit in the exchange of gunfire,” the source said. “But if he really was standing that close to the vehicles, how did he avoid being fatally shot? There has to be an explanation for that.”

In the initial report, the police said the 13 killed were members of a gun-for-hire group in Calabarzon (Cavite, Laguna, Batangas, Rizal, Quezon), but it turned out that three of them were policemen and two were Air Force soldiers.

One of the slain policemen was Supt. Alfredo Consemino, deputy director of the Headquarters Support Group of the Mimaropa (Mindoro, Marinduque, Romblon, Palawan) police.

‘Coplan Armado’

Inquirer sources said the supposed shootout was the culmination of a three-month police operation called “Coplan Armado,” proposed by the intelligence unit of the Calabarzon police.

The coplan was submitted to the PAOCC. But the agency claimed it found the coplan potentially bloody and disapproved it.

The target of “Armado” was Victor “Vic” Siman, an alleged operator of the numbers racket “jueteng” in provinces south of Manila.

Siman was among the 13 killed in the supposed shootout in Atimonan.

The PAOCC, a body under the Office of the President, is headed by Executive Secretary Paquito Ochoa Jr.

Even without PAOCC approval and funding, however, the Calabarzon police intelligence unit went ahead with the operation, getting Siman but also killing 12 others not all of whom may be linked to his illegal business.

Sen. Panfilo Lacson, head of the Senate defense committee, on Sunday said the NBI investigation should determine whether there was “excessive use of force or violation of the rules of engagement” in the supposed shootout.

But there is one thing clear, Lacson said in an interview on radio, and that is the PAOCC was not involved in the police operation.

The PAOCC is a funding agency for such operations, but it does not take part in those operations, Lacson explained.

Senate inquiry

Also on Sunday, Sen. Ramon Revilla Jr. urged the “appropriate Senate committees” to inquire into the supposed shootout “in aid of legislation.”

“It must be determined whether the incident was a culmination of a three-month police operation under Coplan Armado, a case operational plan against organized crime groups in Calabarzon, or a rubout as asserted by the families of those who were killed,” Revilla said in an e-mailed statement.

Revilla said the number of those killed “makes an investigation imperative,” adding that the “initial findings” of the NBI “contradict the reports and findings of the Philippine National Police.”

The senator also expressed concern about the supposed shootout’s reported link to another such incident in Calamba City, which happened in November last year. Six people were killed in that reported shootout.

The Senate inquiry, Revilla said, should establish “if certain standard operating procedures in police operations were violated or [whether] there are loopholes in the existing SOPs.”

Police probers’ report

Chief Supt. Generoso Cerbo Jr., PNP spokesperson, said the report of the fact-finding team would not be made public.

Instead, the findings of the team, headed by Chief Supt. Federico Castro, would be directly submitted to the NBI, Cerbo told the Inquirer by phone.

“From what I know, the report will not be presented in a press conference. It’s up to the NBI to [review] the findings contained in the report,” Cerbo said. With reports from TJ Burgonio and Cathy Yamsuan


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  • MrJoseRizal

    Looks like it’s the same (S)orry (W)e (A)int (T)rained team from the Qurino Grand stand.

    • superpilipinas

      Nope not exactly.

      This time they were really trained…..for something else other than law enforcement.

  • boybakal

    Atimonan 13 may not have fired guns’….

    This is plain Common Sense.
    How could the Unlucky 13 fire guns….they are packed like Sardines.
    Siksikan, there is no room to move much more draw guns.

    Just like a duel inside a drum one holding an ax and the other blade…the one with blade won.

    • pinoy63

      tama  ka boy bakal!

    • Kairosphil

      kumita na iyan.. kulang talaga sa script si marantan.. hilaw.. valleverde gang pa.. dina nila mauuto ang mga tao!

    • http://www.facebook.com/tuzon.principe Tuzon Principe

      Ang sabi sa news, 2 SUV daw ang sinakyan ng unlucky 13. For sure, kung lumaban sila, eh inde lang sa paa at kamay ang tama ni Marantan.

    • Carlos_Iho

      If you see many well-positioned armed men with heavy weapons blocking you, would you even dare drawing your handgun while you are in a cramped vehicle with the windows up?  Soldiers and policemen have common sense, except the storytellers.

  • superpilipinas

    The fact that there are serious and severe doubts surrounding this case simply means our government has failed miserably to reform PNP. This is just a sample that AFP and other law enforcement agencies have the same problem. 

    There has been no proof ever that indicates PNP and the others are reformed even a little.

    • VeryDisgusted2

      Something very wrong with PNP Academy and PMA. Instead of producing “an officer and a gentleman” product, the institutions are producing low IQ robots and dangerous breed of criminals.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KZEBAUGBBXOSZBPR5HUZGZXV5U andy bonifacio

        the likes of andal ampatuan

  • pinoy63

    kung millions millons ang pinag uusapan dito, ano ba naman yang sugat sa braso at paa kung malaki naman ang………..

    • Carlos_Iho

      Talagang marunong lang gumawa ng script, kaso di maibenta.  Akala siguro ang mga tao kasing tanga nya.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    Ang sabi ni Maratrat doon sa TV interview…he took the bullet intended for Golloid….
    Attention NBI…Examined all Maratrat statements…ang daming conflicting utterances !!!!
    Dapat ipa lie detector din iyang 50 scalawags…convict them according to their degree of participation!!! Ang pasimuno dapat bitayin !!!!

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/iV0XkkNontlsHWTkG2jcuz.PB64A#6b054 F alonso

      bitayin mo ang mga taong pumatay ng mga organized crime syndicates?Si Seaman loloko at yung Foolish Col. nasa listahan ni Bishop Cruz.It doesn’t mean they’re police and military officers,then they are excemption to the rule as accomplice.Bakit nasa listahan ni Bishop si Col. kung di nga naman ito mga sama samang kriminal.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

        Kung involve man sila sa illegal gambliing….E dapat kasohan at hulihin…Nakuha mo ? Pag tinutukan ka ng 25Army special force sa likod mo at 25 Pulpol Police sa harap…kakasa ka ng nakatayo lang at hindi nga kumasa ang mga biktima,they could have bolted away kung hindi sila trinaidor ? Common sense lang…isa ka segurong Pul Police…

    • Kairosphil

      ang kasinungaligan kahit anong gawing pagtatakip.. sisingaw iyan! sa mga kasama na nag checkpoint.. ingat kayo.. baka isaisahin na rin kayo para wala na makapagsasalita ng katotohonan.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

        May sungay man iyan si Maratrat,tinablan din naman ng bala….ganitong situation ang ina ala ala ko noon…Kaya blessing in disguise na rin hindi ako natuloy sa service.

    • VeryDisgusted2

      “…he took the bullet intended for Golloid..”

      So Marantan claimed to be a hero saving the life of Golloid. How corny naman ang murderer na eto.

      • Edward Castro

        baka sinalo nya sa kamay ang bala kaya doon tinamaan ok kaya sa paa parang soccer player.. kakatawa nato..

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

        Ang Sabi rin ni Maratrat…”nag roll down ng window after na pinara and then nag roll up,saka siya binaril ”  tingnan nyo kung hindi ba conflicting iyan according to physical evidence na hindi wasak/nalaglag ang mga window glass(bakit isara pa kung babaril na rin lang,di ba ?). 

  • tata_boy

    napakahina ng mga imbestigador ng NBI, dapat lahat ng partisipante ay ilagay sa kanya-kanyang kuwarto at sabay-sabay na kunan ng statement, di sila puwedeng makalabas ng kuwarto hanggat di nila natatapos ang kanilang statement. mahirap ba itong gawin? Within a few minutes the truth will come out. tsk-tsk-tsk sayang naman ang bayad sa mga ito, pulos mga inutil.  

    • Kairosphil

      sabi ng nbi wala daw witness sa incident… yun mga bumira un mismo pwedeng witnesses.. korek ka diyan.. isaisahin lang ang mga involved malalaman na….sigurado iyan lalabas ang totoo.. o kaya bigay sila reward kundi magunahan ang mga hinayupak na mag witness!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    The case has become similar to Kuratong Baleleng ang even worse.

  • w4d

    Unfortunately, this will be another unsolved case, citing the fact that there is no witness available. Our law enforcement are not trained to solve crimes using their instinct so this will be filed under cold cases. Heck, they can’t even solve cases with super credible witnesses in front of them.

    Surely, one of the operative during the operation knows what truly happened, but guess what, duwag din lahat ‘yan.

    • Carlos_Iho

      They have to be charged with multiple murder and it’s up to them to prove their innocence in court.  The burden of proving there was a shootout is on them.  None of those killed had an arrest warrant or pending case warranting summary execution.

  • Commentator

    It seems the Philippines do not have an independent agency to investigate police every time someone is killed or hurt. I thought the National Police Commission is supposed to investigate this but it might not be so.

  • JOSE RIZAL

    kakahiya maging militar at pulis. nakakahiya talaga. yung marunong mahiya, linisin na ninyo ang ranggo nyo. vigilante style din. siguradong hindi na uulit ang mga kriminal sa hanay nyo pag nakalibing na mga iyan. sige na. parang awa nyo na. nakakahiya talaga kayo.

    • VeryDisgusted2

      I agree 100% to this impression.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYAZBOJYIUCRLWTYJBORBVTTOI boyfarmer

    Operatives should  be required to use video cam to record activities in checkpoints especially when they begin to flag down vehicles of suspects to avoid rub out incidents. Police patrol in USA have video cams in their car’s dash board. Watch in you tube police chases, they got video cams rolling to record the incidents.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

    Ayon  sa isang balita, nagugat pala ito ng pinapatay ni Siman ang lahat ng sagabal sa kanyang pajueteng. Una daw pinapatay ay ang kanyang kasosyo sa jueteng na si Engelbert Aquino ng ito raw ay tumangging sumosyo kay Siman sa palaro sa Calamba. Pati si Chief of police Senior Insp. Nestor Sardina ng Sta Maria, Laguna na inambush subalit hindi napuruhan ay kagagawan daw ng grupo ni Siman.  Gayon din kay operation officer ng Cabuyao City police insp. Romeo Criste na inambush at napatay. Dahil dito bumuo ng “Case Operation Plan:Armado na ang case Officer ay si Supt, Hansel Marantan na deputy regional intelligence chief ng Police Regional Office 4-A sa CALABARZON. Sina Vic Siman, at Nestor “Jr castillo” Pera Banog ang kanilang target. Napatay Banog at limang iba pa sa isang police operation sa brgy Lccheria sa Calamba City, si Supt Marantan ang team leader. Dito nagalit si Siman kay Marantan dahil yung mga napatay ay mga kolektor ng jueteng ni Siman… Kaya ng makita ni Siman sa checkpoint si Marantan ay agad nila itong pinaputukan. Kaya niratrat ng mga nagaabang na mga pulis at army ang dalawang sasakyan…

    • $20722540

      kong minamanmanan na umaga palang daw yong siman group sabi ni marantan at alam niya na ang iflag-flag niya ay ang siman group (armed & dangerous including death threats to him), bakit siya ang isang taong nagflag sa kanila sa checkpoint?  baka gusto niyang magpakamatay?

    • doncleo

       Naniwala ka naman?

    • legnasagra

      di naman talaga si Siman ang target ng operation kundi ang kanilang cargo na pinoprotektahan, ano man ang cargo na yun ay tiyak napakahalaga kaya napakaraming security. sa tingin ko kahit ang informate ng mga pulis na umambush ay kasama at isa sa mga pasaherong biktima

    • VeryDisgusted2

      It looks this “balita” is from Marantan.

    • speaksoftlylove

       Ikaw ba yan Ping o si Dumlao ka?

    • batangpaslit

      ang ganitong trabaho, kung sino ang naunang bumunot ng baril, sia ang lamang. kung magaling siang bumaril, patay ang kalaban

    • Carlos_Iho

      Isang insidente lang ang daming kwento.  Parang naging alamat na.  Ano naman kaya ang susunod na version nito?

      Ang tatanga pala nung mga nasa SUV.  Kahit sang katerba na armadong tao na puro naka assault rifle ang hawak at pistol lang ang nasa kanila, naniwala pa rin silang na kakayanin nila.  Parang pelikula siguro ang akala nila.  Ang galing nitong magkwento.

      • Dean Martin

        Ampatuan Masacre nabasa mo n b yun?

  • boybakal

    Even in Swift Justice there is partiality.
    Weeks ago, Gen.Espino now governor was tagged as Jueteng Lord in Pangasinan by the mayor.
    So what happened, the news died down.
    For sure, di kaya ng mga police or militar and even in the gov’t si General Espino.
    Maraming aalma kung si General.

    Siman and Co. were unknown, nobody knew them until they were killed by firing squad.
    We don’t even know that he is in jueteng or loterya ng bayan operator.
    There was plan to mowed them down and they did.
    Yon kaya lang ang binibira, may kinatatakutan din.

    Swift Justice…there is partiality in executing Undue Process .

    • batangpaslit

      ang tunay na Jueteng Lord, umiiwas ng press release

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SYG36KOOLRY47VA3ICPJJ5CQTQ ADD

    Publish the rules of engagement on the internet so everyone can know the correct processes.
    The public should know their rights.

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    While the investigation is going on, there is another war raging on in the media. There is clearly an ongoing demolition job to destroy the reputation of the 13 victims, especially Jun Lontok. Without Jun Lontok the environmentalist, the entire Quezon Massacre could be dismissed as scalawags robbing and rubbing out fellow scalawags. At least that’s the narrative being peddled by those who wish to hush it up as if it never happened. Unlike Ninoy who hooked up with the Huks and NPAs and openly admitted so, there is no evidence to suggest that Jun Lontok was on the wrong side of the law. Even then, Ninoy was immersing himself in the countryside to better understand the lives of the disenfranchised. If the powers that be succeed in discrediting the dead environmentalist Jun Lontok, this case will be as good as closed. No justice for Jun Lontok and the 13 families. PNoy’s administration will appear as decisive and capable in resolving heinous crimes which in turn will boost the chances of the administration’s LP candidates. Marantan gets to walk, albeit in crutches, and Lacson gets to retain his title as the undisputed and unconvicted Rub-Out King. It is not in the interest of the administration nor the powers that be to allow Jun Lontok the environmentalist to make them look bad.

    At this point, only Jun Lontok can save Jun Lontok. We, the powerless citizenry, can only pray that Jun Lontok continues to stick out like a green sore thumb to the powers that be, in life as it is in death.

    • batangpaslit

      tama ka Bro….media war. kung sino ang makabayad ng malaki sa Press Release gets the mileage of news kuno
      hehehe…

  • $20722540

    if marantan was receiving death threats from the siman group as claimed by marantan and he knows that they flagging down the same group at the checkpoint, why would he (marantan) do it himself?  its like committing suicide, diba?  why not allow the other team members to it?  obviously, they failed to follow a script done before the alleged shootout.

    • speaksoftlylove

       If the ambushed group of Siman “might not have fired guns” then maybe an ET from high heavens is the sharpshooter who shot Maratrat twice without intending to kill him. Nice script Maratrat but your injury is simply too unbelievable.

    • batangpaslit

      malay mo eh fatalistic ‘yong tao? he gets high to see blood spilled.

    • Edward Castro

      gahul sila sa oras kaya di masyadong na plantsa ang script. wala na silang lusot ngayon kasi nakialam na si pinoy.  

  • koaks2

    marami ka ng tinumba marantan. the same modus, checkpoint then, shootout. at nalulusutan  mo mga kasong isinampa sau wala ka ng kawala dito..

  • speaksoftlylove

    Bukas o samakalawa ang headline ay: “Kupalan Operation may not have fired guns.”

    Sa bandang huli yong grupo ni GMA ang salarin, wanna bet?

    Hala sige, dagdagan na ng panibagong kaso ng massacre yan para heinous crime at unbailable ulit.

  • Rovingmoron

    This is hard to believe and the reports emanating from the alleged shootout are getting murky. As the investigation drags on, many unwanted scenarios are coming out, adding to the confusions for the public to understand the truth. In the previous reports, it was learned that all the guns inside the SUVs were duly licensed. Whose names the guns were licensed? If the guns were planted, how come the guns’ licenses, if there is any, were in the names of those killed? Would it be possible for the check point cops to run to the Firearms and Explosive Division to secure licenses for the said guns, after the shootout? And then planted them inside the SUVs?

    • batangpaslit

      Tsong, press release nga ito, eh, in the guise of news reports. depende ‘yan kung magkano ang binayad
      ito ang hanapbuhay ni Mr Dacer ng buhay pa sia. taga sulat nang press release at ipa publish under the byline of a news reporto—-presto, news na.
      hehehe…

      • Rovingmoron

        Yan mahirap eh. Now the credibility of the media is again put at stake here. Who is telling the truth? The mediamen or the sources of the news? Lumalabo ata ang katotohonan.

      • batangpaslit

        sinabi mo pa
        eh, maiba ako Tsong.
        bright naman ang mga blog mo. eh, bakit pinili mo ang “moron” na suffix?
        sana
        RovingBright
        hayaan mo nang mainggit ang iba at sabihing mayabang ka
        may ipag mayabang naman
        hahaha…

    • Carlos_Iho

      Or, if you would understand it correctly, their own guns were planted on them to show that they have drawn their weapons despite the stupidity of doing so when confronted and outnumbered by heavily armed men.

  • cantonese

     Should you change the title of this case as THE MASSACRE OF ANTIMONAN 13? Nagtatanong lang po si Ka Indo.

    • batangpaslit

      depende ‘yan kung magkano ang ibinayad sa press release circulated in the guise as news reports….hehehe

  • speaksoftlylove

    The first time this news was published by PDI, I replied to a perpetual heckler of my post that, “Kahaaponka  lang pinanganak dahil di mo kilala ang mga kapulisan ng Pilipinas.” I told him that he is unaware of such terms as set up, frame up, or inducement, all of which are illegal police tactics. Now look what we have here? It seems that my initial hunch might be correct after all.

    • batangpaslit

      illegal drugs
      illegal gambling
      illegal shooting
      illegal police operation

      is matched with gossips circulated in the guise of news reports. whoever pays the highest for the press release their version gets published.

  • dodong1

    It is possible that there was no exchange of gunfire and that the guns reportedly recovered from the scene were planted to make it appear that those killed were armed, according to the official. PAKI ISPLIKA MO NGAYON YAN KERNEL MARATNAN!!

  • anu12345

    “PNP fact-finding team was able to secure photographs showing that two of the slain men did not have firearms. But in another set of pictures taken by Soco (scene of the crime operatives), it appeared that they had guns.”

    It’s magic.  I recall what happened to Eddie Fernandez. His dead body showed his right hand was holding a gun but his family said he was left handed

    • Jason Cruz

      Kaya nga ang PNP puro kalokohan ang nga iyan.   They are the most corrupt organization in the country.    Pres. Pinoy knew there is something fishy that’s is why he order NBI to investigate.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7IGQYIPU6AFTVRJ742XT2X44M4 Jef

    “The policemen had different versions of what actually transpired,some of them claimed it was Chief Insp. Grant Gollod, the sacked Atimonan police chief, who flagged down the vehicles the others said it was actually Marantan who ordered the two vehicles to stop. Not different but identical both they raise their hand to stop the vehicle but instead of stopping they fired upon so they retaliated in short SHOOTOUT.  Sen. Ramon Revilla Jr. urged the “appropriate Senate committees” to inquire into the supposed shootout “in aid of legislation.” gusto nyo na naman magpasikat wala na makinig sa inyo…linisin nyo muna bakuran nyo wala na kayong cridibilidad bago kayo mag imbistiga ibalik nyo muna 1.6 million gift taxpayer money MAHIYA NAMAN KAYO.  

    • Dean Martin

      Dapat magkaroon ng Senate inquiry na bakit may bobo at mang mang na senador, para makagawa ng batas na hindi sapat ang pagiging popular na artista para maging Senador.

  • batangpaslit

    lokohan na itong news reports

    ang mga nalathala yata rito eh hindi news reports, kundi press release.
    sigurado, bukas, kung sino ang makabigay ng PR funds na medyo malaki-laki, sa kanya pabor ang press release in the guise of news report.

    akalain mo, sabi, ang result ng fact finding team ng police hindi ma publish publicly; kundi sa NBI lamang maibigay.

    but in the meantime, palabasan lang muna ng tsimis ang bawa’t kampo….hehehe

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XIDO4V2FQAQ6UPUCBXYOODPLAA drunken_master

    lumang tugtugin na yan…

    “Tulad mo, Baleleng, ang isang mutya…”

  • bogli_anakdami

    “atimonan masaker?.. kelan, saan, at anong nangyari doon?…

    ay sus ginoo, di totoo, yan… gawa-gawa lang yan ng mga tsimosang magba-balot at traysikad drayber…

    • jolly_baby

       baliw lang hehehehe

  • Barak_O

    crappy news reporting

  • Simplify1

    Simple questions:

    1.  Were there warrants of arrest for any of the 13?

    2.  If there were warrants, why did the police set up the checkpoint, when they could have easily served the warrants in broad day light in their respective residences, then no one would have been killed .  These people killed were not really “fugitives from the law” like the Reyes brothers of Palawan…

    3.  If they did not have any warrants, why were these 13 accosted in the first place? This only proves Marantan’s way of putting the law in his hands. 

    4.  Marantan has been involved in numerous questionable gunfights, all instances wherein Marantan used the cover of darkness, used superior force and always included “collateral damage”.

    5.  Marantan’s handler, Dumlao, is no longer credible given all his questionable affidavits, counter affidavits, retractions relative to his and Lacson’s involvement in the Dacer-Corbito case.  REGARDLESS whether his involvement in this Atimonan was legit or not, people will never believe him!!  In the first place, how was this perjurer even re-instated in the military?

    6.  Everything simply stinks!  

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/WNJTQYHM4B5XMJAU6PCPFHYSSQ Francisco

      Marantan, Dumlao, Ping Lacson itong mga ito hindi lalaban ng parehas. Kasi mga duwag sila. Kung matapang sila bakit hindi sila makaharap ng parehas – walang lamangan! Kito ninyo si Lacson tumatakbo sa away. Kung siya ay matapang di hinarap niya si Gloria. Si Binay kahit kurap di tumatakbo!

      • niceguy60

        They were able to get away with crime it seems.

      • IbigMongSabihin

        ibig mong sabihin ay hindi katapangang ang ipinakita ni Lacson ng hinarap niya si Pnoy after na bigyan siya ng go-signal ni Pnoy na lumabas na sa lungga at maging senador na muli.

    • superpilipinas

      you have to understand how search and arrest warrants are used. google it.

  • boybakal

    Kung tutuusin ang may kasalanan ng lahat, yan Massacre 13 ay si Bishop Cruz.
    Siya ang may hawak ng Lastillas at Plantilla ng mga Jueteng Operator.
    So, napressure na ring tong gobyerno, dahil nga talak ng talak tong si Bishop Cruz.
    Dapat siya ang sampahan ng kaso…Master Instigator.

    Just think…is Jueteng a disease a menace to society.
    Wala naman akong nabalitaan na nagpakamatay, mag asawa naghiwalay dahil sa pagtaya sa jueteng.
    O di kaya di napagaral ang anak dahil tumataya sa jueteng yon magulang.
    Or nangholdap or nangkidnap para pantaya sa jueteng.
    Unlike drugs, kitang kita ang resulta, maraming pumapatay pag high, nangholdap pag high.
    Yan ang sugpuin, drugs a cancer to society.

    Kaya dapat idemanda tong si Bishop Cruz.

    • bogli_anakdami

      hay naku, boybakal… excommunicated ka… di ka palulusutin sa gate ni san pedro pagdating mo sa langit… hanggang purgatoryo ka lang…

    • superpilipinas

      he-he-he. nasa listahan ka ba ni Cruz? ikaw yata ang naprepressure. naku mahal ang gamot sa blood pressure.

    • IbigMongSabihin

      ibig mong sabihin ay may utak ka na galit sa mga taong cause-oriented dahil sa kanilang pagbabandera sa madlang pinoy ng mga tiwaling gawain at mga taong tumatabo ng milyones sa ganoong gawain. ahhh, ayaw mong ma pressure ang gobyernong inutil ng findings ng cause-oriented individuals or groups.        

    • wehd1nga

      ano pa hinihintay mo eh di idemenda mo!

    • Jason Cruz

      Si Bishop Cruz na nga ang nagsasabi kung sino ang nga jueteng lord eh.    Sabi nya Si Ochoa, Puno at si Gen Bartolome hindi intresado na pugsain yang jueteng na yan.

      Gusto mo pabayaan na lang ang jueteng,    Sila sila na lang kung anong no. ang manananlo.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Charles-Lynel-F-Joven/685946584 Charles Lynel F. Joven

    shut up Bong Revilla..you know nothing…. go back to showbizness….And ping Lacson,,maybe you should teach those cops how to do the perfect “rubout”…

  • Melanio Calayeg

    So this is another classical case of  RUB OUT……….

    • superpilipinas

      Yes, “classic” as in wala man lang pagbabago. Mag hire naman sila ng film director para naman may originality.

      Pare-pareho na lang. Alam na ng mga tao nangyari diyan!

      • Loggnat

         I read before that there was a third SUV that got away. Is there an epidemic of amnesia in the Philippines? Even the Media is hardly mentioning or reporting about the 3rd vehicle, that is definitely can be classified as witnesses because they were present in the scene of the shooting. Maybe there was somebody important in that vehicle??? or maybe it is not true that there was another vehicle that got away. Either way, it needs to be confirmed one way or the other. I think.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AR3F3RNQX4U3PKBI526NJI6BYM Jose

        One vehicle got away?  The people who got away could have been all over the media by now.  2 vehicle naging parang bistayan ng buhangin tapos may isang wala man lang balita hanggang ngayon? Absurd.

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        hehehe, naalala ko nanaman si Galman.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/EE5LMUQHMXD2Q3PBSSDKBMG7VI Rexy

        okay, sabi ng director, pasok bong !!!

  • eirons1043

    The current rules on evidence as accepted by the Judiciary is- No witness No case. Therefore, if no credible witness appears the Atimonan Massacre will just be dribbled and forgotten until the next gory news comes along. Anyway if that happens it might also be good coz the group that was ambush, if they have balls will just retaliate and finished the Maratrat group. Unless of course if Maratrat is promoted as head honcho of the PNP ala then Ping Lacson of the PAOCTF.

  • NAGMAMARUNONG

    GANG-STER STYLE. IYAN ANG BAGONG SAYAW/EXERCISE NG PNP/PAOCC. TALO ANG GANGNAM STYLE.

  • dani77777

    Of these 50 policemen who are involved in the shootout or rubout, someone with a conscience come out please?

    You owe it to the Filipino people and the One above.

    • FernandoBusi

      Walang conconsensya sa mga pulis kung 100M and paghahatian. 

  • IbigMongSabihin

    kung bakit naman coincidence yata na mula ng last presidential election ay nagsimula maglitawan ang ganitong klase ng series of conflicting news na parang press releases ang dating, the purpose of which ay either na pabanguhin o ikondena ang isang sector depende sa intention ng writer. there were reports hen that this type of journalism ay ginagamit lamang ng isang political group to demonize somebody up there, so it was then tolerated and expected that this type of irresponsiible journalism ay mawawala rin after the election year. but it is unfortunate na hindi nawala ito at lalo pa yatang nag hybrid at ginagamit na ngayon ng maraming sectors sa bansa. this is one of the devils of politics na namana during the last presidential election.

    • Cobra

      this is always the case in a free willing press like in the Phils.News are mostly done in the eyes of the reporters w/ some changes from the editors so we just have to choose the grain from the chap so to speak.Siyempre maski sinong nasa puder nandoon karamihan ang panig ng news pasalamat tayo at mayron pa ring nagbibigay ng ibang side of the story.Mas mahirap kpag ang press ay entirely convinced of the supposedly truth like what happen when the whole world was made to believe by majority & big news org about Iraq’s supposedly WMD.The american propaganda was taken hook line & sinker.Now we know better but what a sad consequence.So we have to be careful as well about this situation in our country.

  • James McTangay

    eto na…senate inquiry daw. Ubos na naman ang pera ni Juan dela Cruz.

    • speaksoftlylove

      Si Lacson ang mangunguna sa “Senate Inquiry.”

      Lacson: Rubout ba ang nangyari?

      Dumlao: Para ka namang timang dyan boss eh di,,, hindi.

      Lacson: Case dismissed your honor, no evidence.

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

         Senate inquiry in aid of ‘legislation’ lang naman kaya ni senate. Siguro, ang pinaka malaking makukuha natin dito ay ma revisit ang rules of engagement, and afterwards.  Kasi ang daming kapalpakan talaga after the fact.

      • Edward Castro

        may rules naman kaso di naman sinusunod kasi may ibang agenda “dead men tell no tales”

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        hahaha,

        may rules of engagement, pero may sub-rosa rules din starting with ‘dead men tell no tales.’

        good assumption, sir.

  • wehd1nga

    PNP na mismo ang may sabi “AMBUSH” at hindi shootout o armed rncounter ang nangyari sa Atimonan Quezon.

  • Komen To

    First they fired at Maratrat so were all fired upon and killed, because they were gun 4 hires. Maratrat flagged down the group. Then they were jueteng Lords. Then blood and slippers of one killed were found away from the crime scene suggesting he was able to run (alive of course). Lontok was a environmentalist fighting for the farmers and the poor. Consemino had no bad records. The target was Siman and the rest were collateral damages. There were no warrants issued against Siman. Now the 13 may not have fired their guns. Now it’s Gollod who flagged down.

    If they were gun 4 hires carrying long firearms, why was Maratrat hit only in the arm and leg, missing his body, a much bigger target? If .45 cal were shots, did they find any slugs? Hmmmm. Even a scriptwriter may find it difficult to connect the events and make an ending

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EE5LMUQHMXD2Q3PBSSDKBMG7VI Rexy

      how about asking bong reveilla? sa shooting ginagawa iyon>

  • brunogiordano

    “Inquirer sources said the supposed shootout was the culmination of a three-month police operation called “Coplan Armado,” proposed by the intelligence unit of the Calabarzon police.
    The coplan was submitted to the PAOCC. But the agency claimed it found the coplan potentially bloody and disapproved it.
    The target of “Armado” was Victor “Vic” Siman, an alleged operator of the numbers racket “jueteng” in provinces south of Manila.”

    Ano ang talagang OBJECTIVE ng Coplan Amado????

    Ang objective ba ay patayin lang si “Vic” at hindi hulihin?????

    Kung si “Vic” lang ang napatay, OK lang ba iyon dahil hindi masyadong MADUGO?????

  • Mattino2011

    Kakatakot pala ang checkpoint pag ganun klaseng Pulis ang mag checkpoint…Isang kisap mata ..bangkay ka na

  • RiverHorse

    solution: disarm irresponsible policemen, in other words, patalsikin sa pagkapulis at ikulong!

  • Atawid

    You cannot fire back if the car windows were closed so, if the victims fired first that means that the windows were opened. The investigators can determine if that is true by simply tracing the bullets holes on the doors and if there are no matched holes on the glass then we know who is lying

    • speaksoftlylove

       A picture of the SUV with a presidential seal shows a bullet hole on a closed window.

  • speedstream2

    Curiouser and curiouser, but will we ever find out the truth about the the Atimonan incident?

  • bagombong

    papasok ulit ang senate, hindi lang ubos ang pera ni juan de cruz, kundi puro lang tanong at wala rin naman sila magagawa at ni wala naman mapaparusahan, bakit pa kailangan nilang mag-imbestiga , para saan ulit ang gagawin nila.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EE5LMUQHMXD2Q3PBSSDKBMG7VI Rexy

      malapit na ang election kaya ganoon??

  • Jason Cruz

    Mismo yung PNP Soco nagtatakip ng krimen, nagkataon merong isang picture na walang dalang baril yung namatay at isang picture na may baril na malapit sa kanya,   Hindi na kaya ng PNP SOCO na itago ito kaya mapipilitan silang si Marantan.   Wait tayo sa NBI findings 

  • anu12345

    “Chief Supt. Generoso Cerbo Jr., PNP spokesperson, said the report of the fact-finding team would not be made public.”

    Ano ‘yung nabasa ko sa kabila na na lumabas na ang report – na ito ay ambush at hindi shootout? Duda ko, baka naliliitan sa protection money.

  • pangilenio

    isa na namang balita na hindi sana nasulat…una walang  malinaw na source.Bakit hindi na lang hintayin ang kahihinatnan na imbestigasyon ng NBI

    • jolly_baby

       Di daw ilalabas sa public result ng investigation.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RTHTG4OTWSQVU6JEGUDCIO5QFU GEORGE

    It seems there is a rivalry among the protectors here? And they used the media to confuse the public. I don’t know who is telling the truth.

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

       One thing I know, the dead cannot tell anything…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CRBW2RJR4WNWVIDZVSCLFQK4KQ Spike

    as usual in the philippines nothing is solved – we have stupid and corrupt leaders and stupid and corrupt  lawmen

  • Vertumnus

    When it comes to police work, the PNP is at the bottom of the list!  After SOCO went over the ambush site, guess what the NBI forensic team found?  More bullets and bullet casings.  Seems to me PNP is trying to cover their own incompetence. 

    With NPA you expect extortion.
    With MILF you expect terrorism.
    With PNP you expect criminals wearing a badge.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYCOAGIL35OAIRH2T6QH3IZUMY Ike

    nakuuu sasawsaw na naman sa eksena itong si Bonggambilla!! Pwede bang ayusin nya muna yung problema ng mga kapatid nyang nagpapatayan dahil sa allowance ng tatay nya!! Sino isasali nya komisyon nya, Si Ping Lacson na pinagtakpan dati ng bataan nyang si Supt Glenn Dumlao na isa rin sangkot. Sa bulsa ba nila manggagaling yun budget nila? Hindi po!!! Pera ng bayan. Tapos me mangyayari ba sa mga pagtatanung nila? Wala rin!!
      Whether this coplan is an approved operation or not, one thing is certain: excessive and unnecessary force was used. 2nd car have about 50 bullet holes compared to about 200 in the 1st car. Some should have at least reach the hospital alive to give accounts of what had happend. It seems those manning the checkpoint made sure no one will survive, even those un-armed insurance agent. They can easily check if there are gunpowder residue inside the cars. If there is none then it means the occupants did not fire their guns at all.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EE5LMUQHMXD2Q3PBSSDKBMG7VI Rexy

      ha ha ha, syempre makikisawsaw na naman si bong revilla, para mawala ang isyo tungkol doon sa starlet ng gma na pakikialaman niya. he he he, ang ganda naman at batang bata. tama ka, saw saw na naman pero iyong kaso ng mga kapatid niya, hindi na pinansin. patayan din iyon di ba? baket wala siyang ginawa?? hay naku !! 

  • $40586212

    wow, lumalabas na naman sa media ang findings ng mga imbestigador…tampered evidence na lahat niyan…tapon na sa basura. Lumalabas na sa media e wala pa sa korte…ano ba ‘yan? Dalhin sa korte mga ‘yan at suriin ng mabuti para malaman ang katotohanan…huwag sa media…stupid.  Very unprofessional ang mga ito. Sino ba ang head ng investigation na ito. Bakit laging may leak sa media?  Dapat protectahan ang mga evidences hanggat di makarating sa korte. Naku, kung ako ang judge, inadmissible lahat niyan.

    • Kairosphil

      Kasama iyan sa script! Napanood na iyan.. kumita na!

  • antonio_luna

    our lawmen and officials are not stupid just plainly corrupt.  they work for the betterment of the people they choose to serve…..themselves

  • $40586212

    anong palagay niyo, mga NBI ba ay trusted?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EE5LMUQHMXD2Q3PBSSDKBMG7VI Rexy

      di ang mga NBI ay nagbabarilan din, sa office pa nga at doon din umiinom? paano na kaya iyon??

      • $40586212

        Grabe ang mga nasa gobierno natin…you don’t know who to trust. Paano kung ang mga NBI ay kasali rin sa jueteng tapos magsubmit din sila ng mga false evidences. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3UAABFPUE5ZKBXOAGLWL6POGWU joel genese

      Hindi sila trusted pero impartial sila sa kasong yan kasi hindi sila kasali!

      • $40586212

        how can you prove that…pwede rin na kasabwat sila sa jueteng di ba?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Romy-Solina/1482411642 Romy Solina

    Wala akong nababasa na may testimonya na galing sa mga sundalo ng Special Forces. Lahat yata ng ulat na nalalathala ay galing sa pulis na sangkot sa bakbakan. Ano kaya ang kuwento ng mga sundalo — sila ay “support” lang ng mga pulis.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EE5LMUQHMXD2Q3PBSSDKBMG7VI Rexy

      oo nga ano?? nandoon din ang mga ibang tao. baket kaya hindi sila kasali??

    • Kairosphil

      May mga sundalo ba talaga? o baka naman un tropa lang ni marantan na naka sibilyan.. wala daw kasi witnesses sabi ng NBI!

  • buttones

    It’s ok Mr Lacson, we understand Mr Lacson, we know the PAOCC quango was not involved Mr Lacson, stop going on about it Mr Lacson, we get the point Mr Lacson calm down Mr Lacson….What we all knew of course from the very beginning is that the whole affair stank, something was not right, and the information being given to the media was in fact a load of tripe, nobody believes a policeman Mr Lacson, nobody trusts a policeman, you should know that Mr Lacson ….So don’t worry Mr Lacson, nobody is blaming your ‘boss’ directly-[ ie Mr Aquino, funny eh that he’s your boss and I’m Aquino’s ‘boss?] and I’m sure that if naughty things have happened, then we have 13 more homicides to add to our record breaking statistics on the matter and ‘heads will roll’ , or something like that……

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EA7TIY7PYXEU5UOXG2K5CY5F64 Eric

    Hoy!!! Dalawang linggo na!….di pa ba luto?

  • Concade

    Buti na lang pala hindi sa Mall nakita ng mga manghuhuli na pulis si Vic Siman.. Kung nagkataon pala baka libo-libo ang patay hahaha!

  • gabbybal

    Wait kasi sa final report… media talaga… reporting half truth para lang mabenta ang newspaper

  • PerfectPoster

    Sigh. The media is sensationalizing this news by creating multiple versions of the story. Bad news sells, as usual. But please, let us wait for findings before prejudging our men and women in uniforms.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/276L22SZM5ZUQGV24IL4ZEF6UA Edward

      tama po kau iba tlga ang media sa pinas mahilig sa sensationalism ng report kya nga napagsabihan na tau ng singapore dhil dito…

      khit ako mn ay ayaw sa ganitong sistema pero wla na tayong magawa ganyan ang kalakRn ng media sa pinas (pra nmn sila mabuhay kasi negosyo rin ito. kung saan ang nakakaraming tao ay mahilig sa showbiz na blita dun sila)..pero khit ganito may nakikita pa rin akong magandang bunga ng ganitong sistema…ito ay para nmn matotong gumamit ng critical thinking ang mga nagbabasa ng balita..para marunong ang nagbabasa timbangin ang mga binabasa nya kung tama o totoo ang balita..dapt  ganito, ganire, atbp…

  • jolly_baby

    Bakit kaya pinapalabas na SOURCE, pwede namang sabihing speculative reporting lang yan para makatulong sa pag investigate. Pero kulang pa rin.. do better.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/276L22SZM5ZUQGV24IL4ZEF6UA Edward

      hay jolly_baby little learning is a very dangerous thing..ang tagal nyo nagbabasa ng balita lalo sa mga newspaper of general circulations o khit sa mga foreign broadsheets d nyo pa rin alam kung bakit ganyan ang pagkakasulat…learn to ask people in the field of mass communication bka maliwanagan kau instead of being arrogant na alam nyo ang isang bagay… why a news writer used the word source and not mentioning the name of the person who is the source of the report…kc nmn po paulit ulit na yan nakalagay sa mga balita noong panahon pa hanggang ngaun na kadalasan ng mga taong ito ay wla sa position/authority to speak about the issue at hindi ibig sabihin haka haka lng ang balita kc kadalasan o lahat sa kanila ay totoo ang source ng balita kc nmn hindi nmn tanga ang reporter pra i pick up ang balita..eh kung antayin nyo si spokeperson ay naku aabutin ka pa ng mga scripted na report..

      ang tagal nyo nang nagbabasa ng balita hanggang ngaun d nyo pa rin alam..sa business news report meron ngang ganun..kc nmn kung gagamit ang reporter ng name ng source at hindi in authority to speak such stuff baka nmn po mapapalitan na ang balita at bka dun na rin ma concentrate sa source ng report at kung anong mga kaso, investigation pa ang mangyayari…ano kya maging news reporter o writer kau..

      nakakatawa ka nmn sa binanggit nyo and i quote Bakit kaya pinapalabas na SOURCE, pwede namang sabihing speculative reporting lang yan para makatulong sa pag investigate. Pero kulang pa rin.. do better….

  • Vincent Puig

    Overkill! Deadman tells no tales.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

      Kung sakali mang may nagpaputok mula sa 13, e kasi naman ,mukang mga rebelde ang 50 tao ni Marantan. Parang Ampatuan massacre. 50 tao armado walang uniform, walang sign ng checkpoint haharangin ka…

  • Cheryl Joy Estrada-Lumapas

    ipadala nyo na kasi sina PANDAY,ENTENG AT SI AKO!!! tawagin mo na sila sen. bong at iwasiwas ang espada mo panday

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q3QGG5QHBLRMZTIYWUFURY6J2E Night

    in aid of election si revilla susme

  • $40586212

    Paano kung ang mga NBI ay kasali rin sa jueteng tapos magsubmit din sila ng mga false evidences. Dapat ang mag-imbestiga diyan ay galing sa Interpol para walang bias.

  • Magsasaka

    katapusan na ba ito ng PAPUTOK at PAMUMUGO ni marantan?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    Hmm.. could be that jueteng money is now circulating to influence or precondition people’s mind?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MZOKC6X7Q52Z4E5VLYNB7GF72Y Kaloy

    This news release of Marlon Ramos, PDI, on Atimonan 13 is obviously bias trying to discredit the PNP. This press release of Ramos intend to feed his own conclusion ahead of the formal investigation report requested requested by the president…

  • Janch

    When the incident was reported in a local news network (not sure if it was gma or abs-cbn), it showed an interview of a male civilian carrying a child who claimed that he witnessed the shootout and that someone in the vehicle shot his gun first.  Where is that person now?

    • $40586212

      i saw the guy too on GMA.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KZEBAUGBBXOSZBPR5HUZGZXV5U andy bonifacio

    So now it is becoming clear, this is a copy of the ampatuan massacre. Mr Fortun, this will be easy for you , same strategy as what you are using with andal. 
    Bottom line criminality whether by grade 5 graduates or those from the PNP will blatantly be committed  all because justice in the country can be twisted, influenced and often delayed  to allow cover up by another bigger crime or scandal as what has been done for this instance  by the current senate president.    

  • 123_pampanggo_farmer

    I think “IN AID OF LEGISLATION” is a much abused phrase. Do Senators have nothing better to do besides acting as a court and so they can again shine thru grandstanding?
    Why not let the Police and NBI do its job? I’m sure there are a few goos ones still remaining in both forces, don’t you think?

    • speaksoftlylove

       It’s high time they change that to :in aid oc collection” mas bagay.

  • Magsasaka

    pagnasabak sa tunay na encounter itong si marantan malamang patay kaagad ito kasi sanay lang itong pumatay ng walang laban walang pinagiba kay palpa-run 

  • totoy_15

    Although I believe no one deserves this kind of death, one thing I
    always observe with the families of known criminals and those involved
    in illegal activities , they don’t seem to mind living lavish lives and
    reaping the rewards of their kin’s activities. But when circumstances
    catch up with their benefactors, they cry to high heavens that they
    should be served justice. It’s a risk they take, living life in the
    underground world of illegal activities, they should have known what
    this could end up with. If they really wanted a quiet life, then for
    heaven’s sake they should have begged their loved ones to cease being a
    criminal, work an honest living ,and live your life in peace by the
    sweat of your brows.

  • ddano

    Sigurado at tandaan nyo WALANG Mangyayari diyan sa investigation ng patayang ito. Walang mapaparusahan dito!  Puro palabas na moro-moro lang ang gagawin ng mga PNP at NBI. Pati sa Senado, pagbabatehan lang ng mga senador ang kasong ito , pagnilabasan na sila , meme na.

  • $40586212

    I don’t trust NBI’s findings on this investigation…they are leaking evidences. Bias sila.They are a joke.

    • Kairosphil

      ikot ikot lang yan… sabi ng nbi wala daw witnesses.. tanga din.. ipitin nila isaisa ang mga involved at magbigay ng reward kundi magunahan iyan magsabi ng totoo.!

  • tugakbatan

    The third vehicle fled to Pampanga?  Please investigate BONG PINEDA (husband of the governor), who is the most powerful Hueteng Lord of them all. Talamak na sa Hueteng ang Pampanga.  Governor ang asawa ni Bong at mga anak niya ay mayor sa mga ibang bayan ng Pampanga.  During this year’s election Mrs. Pineda is running for re-election with his son, Dennis, as her vice governor.  QUO VADIS PAMPANGA?

    • Yobhtron

      Pampanga the Hueteng capital of the Philippines.  Mabuhay ang mga bobong botante ng Pampanga.

  • ddano

    True, one reaps what he sows . But “salvaging” must never  be used as one of the means to fight criminality and in dealing with criminals by  CIVILIZED Societies. Civilized people make sure their Justice System works.

    • Kairosphil

      Generation of PL! should be cut-off soon!

  • AnastacioMamaril

    “In the initial report, the police said the 13 killed were members of a gun-for-hire group in Calabarzon (Cavite, Laguna, Batangas, Rizal, Quezon), but it turned out that three of them were policemen and two were Air Force soldiers.”…INQUIRER HINDI BA POSIBLENG MAGING GUN FOR HIRE ANG PULIS AT SOLDIERS????

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/IFDVFBRCNNZBX2GLL5JMANAQP4 raphael

      The best proof of that would be to check the records of all the police and soldiers killed of any criminal records and service records ,. If they are all clean… then everything points to Marantan who has pending cases .

      • $40586212

        e paano kung magaling magtago ng krimen ang mga ito…di walang makita sa record, paano ‘yan?

    • boypalaban

       pwede…kaya lang yung tumira mas malala pa e…KILL FOR THE LOOT…

      • Kairosphil

        Kaya nga nasa St Lukes… dami pera…!

    • pinoypower

      Pwede bakit hindi pero dapat ba na laging patayin ang lahat ng suspects? The purpose of intelligence gathering is to build up a case against suspected criminal elements and then turn over the information to the operations groups so that if evidences are strong they can be arrested and tried in courts.
      In the case of Marantan, he gathered the evidences, conducted the operations and meted the death penalties on all the suspects. Marantan has history or pattern of this one man justice style and had resposibility and participation in the death of 40 people according to newspaper reports.

  • calixto909

    Mr. Ramos best looking forward that your reporting of this beastly incident thereat Atimonan would result to the factual event and that you as a trusted reporter not only by your office but including the reading public would not be a part of the conspiracy to whitewash this polemic issue.

    As one can glean from your manner of reporting, a hint that you aren’t sure of your given facts is noted nonetheless, I still stand on the trait of man that he was born to be truthful so, at this juncture, I solicit earnestly your honesty plus the invaluable integrity of PDI for an aboveboard reporting of the actual facts that incurred amid the case. And best hoping that you won’t fail your kababayan. 

    Browse the other comments herein and you’ll also notice the similarity of our doubts and apprehensions.  

  • LeoSanMig

    It is now official. Lacson is now a bona fide apologist of Malacanang. And here comes Revilla with his ‘in aid of legislation’. Whatever has become of past ‘in aid of legislations’? It’s just senators grandstanding in front of the cameras. Lacson vs Revilla? So, where does Jodi Sta Maria stand in all these?

    • pinoypower

      Ask Iwa Moto!

  • XY ZEE

    Sen. Panfilo Lacson, head of the Senate defense committee, on Sunday
    said the NBI investigation should determine whether there was “excessive
    use of force or violation of the rules of engagement” in the supposed
    shootout.

    Tanga ka lang ba o kasabwat sa kalokohang ito?
    Malinaw pa sa araw na may aberya kaso pinagtatanggol mo pa.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AR3F3RNQX4U3PKBI526NJI6BYM Jose

      One name, Dumlao…

      • Kairosphil

        Who is Dumlao? Ask Ping Lacson! 
        For Marantan… magingat ka sa mga amo mo…

    • tarikan

      Baka balikan sya ni Maranratrat at sabihang…”nagsalita, kung hindi pa isa rin”. 

  • milespacker

    According to abscbn news and Philstar, Marantan refused to have his wounds examined by the investigating team. Medyo above the law ang behavior na yan.

    • $40586212

      i don’t think he trusted the investigating team…baka naman kalaban niya itong investigating team…you never know. 

      • milespacker

        I don’t trust Marantan’s version of events.

        If he doesn’t trust the investigating team, then that’s too bad because he just massacred 12 people to get the guy he wanted. He should submit himself to the chain of command, including the internal investigation.

      • $40586212

        e ang problema ang justice system…they can’t even force him to submit himself…so whose got the problem…

      • milespacker

        He is a member of the PNP, they have their own internal affairs investigators. Once he is kicked out of the force he can defend himself in a court of law.

        Maratnan has a lot of problems right now. This is not a movie where you kill 13 people and that’s it.

    • pinoypower

      Kaya nga sa St. Luke nagpa-confine di bah? May PNP Hospital, V. Luna at Veterans pero sa St. Luke ang pinili kasi may pera at ang medical reports confidential.

      • milespacker

        Sino kaya ang nagbabayad ng bills ni Maratnan? Private health insurance? Benefactor? Mahal sa St. Luke’s. Just wondering.

      • Kairosphil

        kung totoo ung pera (100m)?na dala ng group ni siman… kaya niyang tumagal diyan sa st lukes kahit ilang taon pa.

      • milespacker

        Agree. . .

      • tarikan

        Sikat ba yang St. Lukes na yan? Parang mga naka-confine dun ay kadudaduda ang mga sakit. Best example yung pandak na babae pero sobrang laki ng boses eh presidente raw ng Pinas yun (2 na ba ang naging pres. ng Pinas na babae?Akala ko isa lang yung walang alam na housewife daw yun ng nabaril). Mga attorney na spokespersons nya sya yung nagbibigay ng medical bulletin, sinusunod na laang ng resident physicians. Balita ko nagka-leche-leche.

    • Kairosphil

      self-inflicted! gianagawang tanga ang mga tao!… malapit lapit na iyan!

  • etomacq

    Valte and Lacierda confirmed last week that the shootout was legitimate…Sablay na naman sila! putak kasi ng mga putak.

    Sigurado madadivert na naman ang investigation na yan. In the end wawasakin lang ang credibilities ng mga biktima, kung ano ano na ang ibibintang sa kanila at si Marantan patuloy sa pagiging berdugo.

    Parang si Marantan pa ang lumalabas na gun for hire. Binayaran to eliminate Siman.

    Opinyon ko lang yan. Haka haka.

  • boybakal

    Bishop Cruz has the Plantilla of Jueteng Operators.
    Now, he crossed X on Siman, meaning Dead or Killed and many more to go.
    Beware Jueteng operators, you are in the Hit List of Bishop Cruz.
    You might be next…

    • boypalaban

       ikaw na raw isusunod…masyado kang madaldal…

  • Marcos5

    SHABU, MINING or JUETENG ?

    I put my cards on Mining since there was an Environmentalist that was slain in the convoy.

    They should BAN all mining in the Philippines.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

    De Lima expects to see NBI probe to implicate GMA, Corona and Gov Gwen Garcia.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SNA7HUMMZRD2DFLEYK4ZKN72TY norman tuliao

      layo naman ng pinagsasabi mo, kaibigan.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

        yan ang gusto ng LP na maging resulta ng Atimonan Massacre.

  • phantomofhope

    eepal na naman mga senador

  • julymorning

    IT DOESN’T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO KNOW HOW THESE ALLEGED SHOOTOUTS (BUT ACTUALLY RUB OUT) CONTINUE TO PROLIFERATE: CORRUPT AND INEPT LAW ENFORCERS, FROM NBI TO PNP, AT TIMES THE AFP HEADS. THESE MORONS CONTINUE TO THRIVE BECAUSE OF ANOTHER CORRUPT AND GOOD FOR NOTHING JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT ONLY CATERS TO THE RICH AND FAMOUS.

    MANINIWALA LANG AKO NA MAY MATINONG PULIS PAG ANG HAWAK AY BATUTA. PERO PAG BARIL ANG HAWAK, FELING NG MGA MOKONG NA ITO AY SILA NA ANG MAY ARI NG MUNDO. ANG LALAKI NG SWELDO, DI NA NAKONTENTO, GUMAGAWA PA NG MGA ILEGAL.

    ISA PA ETONG MGA HUNGHANG NA MGA NBI. ANG YAYABANG NG MGA WALANG UTAK NA MGA MOKONG NA IRE. TAMO, DI SILA DIN ANG NAGBABARILAN LASING MAN O HINDI.

    ANG SUGESTION KO AY BATUTA NALANG ANG IBIGAY SA MGA WALANG SILBING PULIS AT MGA NBI, PARA MAG BATUTAAN NALANG SILA. SILA SILA LANG NAMAN ANG PASIMUNO SA LAHAT NG KRIMEN E. MULA DRUGS, KIDNAPPING, HOLDUP, AT LAHAT NG MGA ILEGAL.

    SEGURO MABABAWASAN ANG KRIMEN PAG LAHAT NG PINOY PINAGBAWALAN MAGBITBIT NG BARIL. SUMANG AYON KAYA ANG NAKAUPO SA KANYANG TRONO SA MALAKANYANG NA MAHILIG DIN SA BARIL PARA KUNYARI MACHO SYA?

    • ang_dagat

      Over on the left side of your keyboard there is a key marked ‘Caps Lock’. Press this once and then you will be back to normal ….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_X7ZXAWDLJZ4YDF2BTYTFXBNNEU ISCA

     I really dont care anymore if the investigations say those killed were the ones who fired first or not…
    everytime a shootout(?) happens between 2 groups—govt vs. criminals(alleged)—there is always something wrong in it. and most of the time, the govt forces are the ones who benefit. Corruption is the source of all this. everyone is guilty, one way or another.

  • mekeni62

    rubout iyan. taranta na sila kung paano i-washout.

  • dorothyanne88

    Reporters covering sensational events where their life is at stake to say the most are ought to be commended not only through giving medals, plaques or citation awards but the most endearing reward that’s so sweet and tear jerking is the prayer and wishes that comes straight from the people’s heart for the aforementioned awards given by officials of the gov’t or the private sector are merely pieces of paper or tin devoid of the priceless emotion.

    This simple thought is what I wanted to convey to all reporters covering the Atimonan alleged  massacre perpetrated by no less than law enforcers who were motivated by their greed for wealth to kill their own kind. Report the true facts and God and the people will reward you a thousand fold.

  • kishbuff

    Umepal na naman si senator panday… in aid of legislation daw hahahaha, very funny! in aid of his son’s election?

    • Kairosphil

      scripted yan.. siguro nakailang practice yan bago pumayag na kunan ng statement ng media… try niyo ambush interview.. lutang yan! napanood na iyan…

  • joerizal

    Nagkakalat na naman ng intriga itong Inquirer.

  • markotres

    Senator Revilla,the grandstander again…in aid of election,Iyon bang kay Katrina Halili ay ano ng nabuo ninyong batas?.nag priviledge speech ka pa noon..Nagpapogi sa isang bagay na pinagkasunduang gawin ni Kahalili at ni Kho..Pwe!!! nakakarumi na itong mga Senador na walang silbi,sayang na sayang  ang mga pera ng bayan na pinagtatamulakan ng ganitong tao.At isa pa bakit hindi bawalan ang mga kumag na iyan na huag mag artista o gumawa ng pelikula ,ang laking bentahe nila or kalamangan sa ibang mga kandidato,gagawa lang ng pelikulang anyong bayani,kagat na kagat naman ng mga bobotante ,kaya iyon kahit gungong as legislator ,nagiging no. 1 or top sa election..

    • boypalaban

      bansot yang si alyas pogi

    • tarikan

      Sensya na Dre, marami sa mga kababayan natin ang mahilig sa artistang politico. Yang mga tipong chimimay, makita lang ang artistang politico, lalo na’t nakamayan eh naku lalabasan na ang mga iyan.  

  • Olibo

    Mmmm.Mafia style?

    • $40586212

      e paano corrupted ang justice system.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/X2U4X42BZTUHPWMP2UKFP5QWMU LucasPacascas

    Walang shootout. AMBUSH ang nangyari. Sinet-up lahat ni Col. Marantan yan. Nakita naman na dalawa ang check-point. That was a trap. Nakita din na nakapark ng maayos yung dalawang Montero, at sarado ang mga windows. Kung shoot out yan, paano makakabaril ng maayos yung mga nasa loob ng sasakyan e sarado ang windows at siksikan sila sa loob? At kung shoot-out yan, may casualty din ang mga nasa check-point dahil siguradong babaril at babaril din ang mga nasa loob ng sasakyan habang papalapit sa checkpoint diba? Remember, ang unang account nila ay mga guns-for-hire ang nasa loob ng Montero. Hindi sila magpapauna kung talagang mamamatay-tao sila. May shootout ba na panay sa likod ang tama nung mga nasa loob ng sasakyan? That was an over kill. 

    That “encounter” scenario is a hallmark of Col. Marantan, like the Valle Verde incident wherein kitang kita si Col. Marantan planting evidences [plate numbers and gun] sa baggage compartment nung car, tapos binaril pa niya yung naghihingalong tao sa loob, the Laguna ambush na walo ang namatay na sinasabing carnappers at hired killer, yun pala mga bookie operators lang, at yung Paranaque encounter kung saan niratrat niya yung Crosswind at sinabing getaway vehicle. Sino ang sakay nung Crosswind? Isang seaman at ang kanyang 5-year-old daughter. Col. Marantan is a trigger-happy cop. He is a cold blooded killer.
    Col. Marantan has a lot of explaining to do. He was a member of the Intel Group, bakit siya ang nagmamando sa checkpoint? Why was he a carrying gun na naka civilian? Intel members are not suppose to carry guns while on operation. They are not even permitted to carry an ID.

    Swak ka na dito, Col. Marantan! Katakot takot na asunto ang naghihintay sa iyo!

    • PepingCo

      Correct ka dyan! Imposibleng kahit isa sa mga victims ay walang nakababa sa mga montero para makipagbarilan. Kung trained na hired guns or goons sila, hindi sila mamamatay na parang sardinas. Trademark yan ni Col. Manraratrat… Lahat ng victims nya ay sa loob ng vehicles namamatay.

    • Yobhtron

      Siguradong meron among Heneral yan si Marantan na mataas ang posisyon.  Dapat tanggalin na yan sa serbisyo at imbestigahan ang kanyang amo.  

    • Kairosphil

      Obvious! Col M.. ingat hindi lang sa pamilya at mga kaibigan ng mga nabiktima mo.. pati sa mga amo mo… magingat ka rin sa kanila.. Yun mga yumari kay dacer corbito….unti unting naglaho.. unsolved crime.. Kung ang akalo mo ay habambuhay ka nilang pangangalagaan.. nagkakamali ka… mainit ka na… at marami ka ng nalalaman! 

      • Paliwaweng

        korek ka brod. Di mo maiiwasang magisip na isa sa mga kamaganak o kaptid na napatay ni Marantan ay hindi gaganti.
        Ang perang pang aareglo sa mga namatay ay pwedeng ibili nila ng armas para gamitin din kay Marantan o sa pamilya nya, di patas na ang laban hehehehe.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KF2TCBJ2AUC7VIPR3TACWUGITE Rednaxela VD

      Marantan will just be laughing his way out of this.

      Marantan is the PNP hitman.  Mabuti na yang mga nangyari diyan sa mga kriminal na yan.  Keasa mabilanggo tapos papalayain lang.

      Siman is an “untouchable” mafia leader in laguna.  He got what he deserved

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GYXVKQ7JIG2GJHZXU3L42FOA6M Pepsky

    KUNG WALANG VESTED INTEREST, ACTUALLY MADALI LANG MAG GATHER NG TOTOONG EVIDENCES LEADING TO TRUE FACTS..TRUE FACTS THAT WILL PIECE TOGETHER WHAT REALLY TRANSPIRED..THAT WILL EVENTUALLY EXPOSE THE MOTIVE AND PINPOINT THE PERPETRATORS….KASO MO, ANG NAGPAPATAGAL AT ANG NAGPAPALABO SA INVESTIGATION AY ANG PAGPASUK NG MGA EXTERNAL INFLUENCE PARA ISALBA ANG MGA HUNGHANG…DAPAT ANG MAG IMBESTIGA DIYAN KUNG DIPA NA KO CORRUPT MGA EVIDENCES SA PAGSALIN SALIN IBAT IBANG KAMAY SA IMBESTIGASYON, AY YUNG NEUTRAL NA DI KAYANG IMPLUWENSYAHAN NINUMAN..KUNG HINDI, WALANG MANGYAYARING MAGANDA DYAN..

  • boypalaban

     Col. Manraratrat

  • Markov Chain

    maingay ang mga politiko ngayon dahil d pa dumadating ang payout galing sa rubout…tingnan nyo, pagnabayaran na ang mga yan, wala na kayong balitang mababasa about sa “atimonan 13″ (LOL)…..kung sino ang pinaka maingay, yan ang pinakamalaki ang payout….pera pera lang yan….

  • speaksoftlylove

    Sa dami at susodsunod na kapalpakan ng administrastion may positive news naman pala kahit papano para kay PNoy. Ayun, basahin ninyo yong latest survey ng SWS. Kaya pala maraming hopeful na Pilipino sa 2013 base sa naunang survey ng SWS. Ang problema nga lang mas nauna yong SWS survey ng mga “hopeful” bago yong lumabas ngayon na SWS survey ng mga “hopeless.” Matatawa ka na lang talaga sa inis kundi tatamaan ka ng alta presyon dito kay PNoy at sa mga yellowfreaks.

    • Yobhtron

      Kayo ng mga UNAnong mong amo at alipores niya na gaya mo ang mga tinatamaan ng alta presyon.  Mas maganda ang Pinas ngayon keysa sa sampung taon ng boss mo.

      • antonioluna

        yellowfreak

  • Geric Soreda

    Revilla na naman. Pinagsasamantalahan nyo lang naman

  • Bayawak

    Jueting and puno’t-dulo niyan…kanya-kanya ng nga bata sa PNP at Militar,naunahan lang sila.Pero kung ang gropo ng atimonan 13 ang nasa checkpoint,malamang ganyan din ang gagawin.Pare-pareho silang mga crook kasi mga boss nila mismo ay mga crook.Paulit-ulit na lang ang ganitong situwasyon.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GYYFBINDMTZHM6TDHPB667452M agustin

    Lacson’s henchman Dumlao and his ratrat group targeted Vic Siman’s jueteng money pack inside the clutch bag. they were successful but Lacson did not knew that Vic Siman has a padrino in malacanang. Ochoa has dis own the mission the reason is one of the car of Siman has a seal of the president of the phil.

    • niceguy60

      Bakit nga ba may presidential seal ang mga kotse ng mga victims? Something’s not normal. I’m now not sure if Macanyang really has no knowledge of the plan. Are we the madlang people being taken for a ride?

      • don alto

        Sus, ang dali-dali namang magpagawa ng ganyang Presidential Seal sa C. M. RECTO Ave! … “Lima-singko” niyan doon!!  …LOL!

  • superlucky2

    Dyan naman talaga magaling ang mga pulis (PNP) mag-lagay ng mga evidence sa crime site.

    • http://Yahoo.com/ Ragdeleafar

      PNP Di lang magaling mag-lagay ng mga evidence …magaling sa ‘dag-dag bawas’ , pag disadvantage para sa kanila bawas ng evidence may mga nawawalang bag(s).

      • don alto

        Speaking of Evidences like the MISSING BAGS ….. =>  Dapat maipaliwanag yan ng mahusay ng mga taga-SOCO. Saan nyo dinala yung mga ebidensiya ???

        Dapat mag-ingat rin yung nakakuha ng picture ng now missing RED BAG  ( si Mr. GLORIOSO ba yun ng DZMM Quezon/ Radyo Patrol??). Baka kasi mawala ang ebidensiya … AT yung nag-picture ng ebidensiya!

        => Mr. GLORIOSO, INGAT PO KAYO at baka ‘damputin’ kayo ng PNP. I-forward nyo na SA MGA TUNAY NA KAIBIGAN NINYO yung mga pics na nakunan ninyo!!

  • angtangamo

    Rub out or legitimate encounter… who cares? at least nabawasan ang mga pusakal sa Pinas.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

      ang kaso yung mga pusakal nga ang tumira sa inosente.

      • angtangamo

        Kaibigan, walang inosente dyan sa mga namatay. Meron bang inosente na merong bodyguard na naka M16?

    • jolly_baby

       Hehehe di kaya.. mas pusakal yung tumira eh

      • angtangamo

        Malamang. Pero isipin mo na lang, dahil sa pangyayaring ito ay sigurado makukulong din ang mga may pakana ng checkpoint na yan. Kumbaga eh two birds with one stone. Patay ang iba (sa ambush) kulong naman ang iba sa kaso!

      • boypalaban

        sana nga lang makulong kung may kasalanan nga…
        at di makatakas o patakasin….

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/74DX67S5U6H557SPUXS5XZ6QJI Alisto Juan

        Kung makulong, Ok ako dyan at least nabawasan ng berdugo sa kalsada pero kung ma promte, delikado tayo baka tamaan tayo sa cross fire katulad sa Paranaque. . 

  • Fulpol

    many approved the execution, rub out, massacre in Atimonan.. 

    Lontok family’s grief was exacerbated by these opinions of the masses…

    lawlessness begets lawlessness…. wild wild west…

    that is the mentality now.. he.ll country….

    • don alto

      ANO KAMO???  ….  Ang GULO mo!!

  • Yobhtron

    Dapat huwag ng makisawsaw si Bobong Revilla. Wala naman laman ng utak niyan eh puro papuge lang. Ibasura ang mga inutil na Revilla Dynasty.

  • Cerise David

    Was Coplan Armado disapproved by the PAOCC?  From previous news items, Coplan Armado was not disapproved, it was merely shelved, waiting for funding.

    • milespacker

       The role of PAOCC was purely ministerial, PNP is not under PAOCC.

  • boybakal

    Pity those unlucky 13 who were killed.
    As police officers and men, they were trained to shoot and die fighting but were not able to draw their guns.
    They were packed like sardines in a car, much more they were like Sitting Duck thinking that Marantan was one of them.
    These 13 were pinned like sandwich, no chance to escape.
    That even the best trained Navy Seals or Swat will be no match if the volley of fires from long guns were coming in all angles.
    Besides, the shooters are trained members of Firing Squad.

  • parefrank

    The found facts will not be made public? Just given to the NBI? And then published after rewriting and whitewash correction? Oh yes, that is what we can expect when a Malacanang unit is involved and accused. Straight path….

  • cristobtosnas

    I’m pretty sure whitewash will happen in the investigation and scapegoats will be used.  as usual, the real big fish will swim freely with impunity again.

    Moving forward and cynicism aside, can’t we make use of technology and make sure that each police/army operation is documented by video?  just like in Cops, each police vehicle has a video installed so every everything is recorded.   this would definitely lessen these rub-outs/ shoot-outs kuno, by the police.  these video evidences will also lessen the time to conclude the court proceedings — a lot of rubout cases/botched police operations are still languishing in court due to lack of evidence.

    • buttones

      Dash cams on all police vehicles, government vehicles, CCT on main and secondary roads? That sort of thing? Well, yes it can be done, and is really quite cheap actually, in this case I’m not too sure what vehicles were involved, or who owned them either. It’s a good idea, a simple one, but usually these simple, cheap good ideas are discarded, complicated and expensive is rather more the order of the day…

  • Jeff Clint

    Sen. Ramon Revilla Jr.?? Wow nagpapa epal!. Pinagloloko at pinagsa-samantalahan mo lang naman ang mahihirap porke kulang sa edukasyon, alam na alam mong kaya mo silang bolahin.Makonsensya ka naman! PweeHHH!!!!

  • pogikorin

    kilala mismo ng military & police intel community ang mga napatay, mga gambling lord yan ng laguna, police at militar na kasama eh mga protektor nila, natunugan ng southern tagalog gambling lords na papasukin na rin ng grupo na yan ang teritoryo nila kaya hayun! red alert ang mga kasanggang pulis at militar sa area nila! ambush ang kinahinatnan! di yan shootout ! ambush yan!!!!!

  • keyboard torres

    Revilla, balik mo muna sa gobyerno ang perang binigay sayo ni enrile bago ka sumawsaw jan..

  • tarikan

    Papapel na naman itong si Kap. Kailangan daw imbestigahan ng senado eh iniimbestigahan na nga ng NBI. Pa-epal kasi malapit na ang election. Asikasuhin mo Kap pelikula mo baka BANGAWIN (malalaking langaw).

  • Jeff Clint

    Brilliant idea! Kaya lang ang unang tatargeten nyan yung camera o kaya yung camera man. Ang tatarget niyan ay yung may maitim (maligno??) na hangarin. Those with criminal minds will always find a way kung paano makalusot.

  • pogikorin

    Gambling ng Laguna balak pasukin ang teritoryo ng Southern Tagalog Gambling Lords! ganun kasimple ang kwento dyan! kaya hayun! Ambush ang kinahinatnan! kapag pinalalim invistigation nyan, yun ang puno ng kwento! napatay na pulis at militar? namaril na pulis at militar? lahat sila eh protektor ng Jueteng at iba pa illegal na sugal!
    WALANG SHOOTOUT! WALANG RUBOUT NA NANGYARI DYAN!!!!!! AMBUSH YAAAAAN!
    MGA TINAMAAN KAYO NG *@*(#(^)#&t@@&@*!!!!!!!

  • bugoybanggers

    hayan na! Amputuan Massacre LUZON version. Well trained POLICE FORCE. Studied abroad financed by the TAX PAYERS. US Trained the best in the east! LUFEETTT.. Tama nga naman si BONGSKI!!! Para sumikat sa palapit na eleksyon, imbestigahan sa SENADO. Hanep.. sawsawan na naman ang mga POLPOLITIKO na binoto ng mga BOBOTANTE. Hayan na, mga media pahulugan group, mag pipyesta din kayo para pataasan ng ratings. Iba talaga ang Pinoy.. Make FUN of the FILIPINOS Joe?

  • Jeff Clint

    cristobtsnas: Brilliant idea! Kaya lang ang unang tatargeten nyan yung camera o kaya yung cameraman. Ang tatarget ay yung may maitim (maligno??) na hangarin. Those with criminal minds will always find a way kung paano makalusot.

  • pinoypower

    There is substance in what this government exec is saying. If you imagine the 13 people seating in the two SUVs only the one besides the windows could actually fire guns. Those sandwiched between them couldn’t have fired or got hit immediately and they could have survived or surrendered the ‘shootout’. But the police and army operatives had no intentions to arrest them alive basing on the number of bullet entries on the vehicles. This indicates that what happened was more of a rubout or massacre rather than a legitimate shootout.
    The investigations could go either way and for sure the quest for justice will take a very long time. What we ordinary people should worry is that the army and police operatives involved will still be out there and could even be promoted thus giving them more power to harrass would be witnesses just like in the Dacer -Corbito murder and other high profile cases.

  • efriend

    Who is in charge of SOCO?  He should be fired immediately!

    • boypalaban

      si Gus Abelgas….

    • Guest

      Biruin mo sa PNP probe, ambush ang nangyari. Yan ang sabi ni PNP chief Purisima. En sino ba si Purisima, bata yan ni Sec. Mar Roxas.

  • indiots

    ano ba namang headlines to… may mga report ng exit ng bala sa sasakyan tapos walang mga baril ang nasa loob?

    • boypalaban

       tumagos palabas mula sa labas na pumasok sa loob….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GGX6L7ZQUUMWBYZJLFBH22TIAQ Jennifer

     i wrote this blog last night, january 13 (sunday) january 2013, but got to encode this only today 11am january 14.
    here’s my two cents’ bit of ‘analysis’ on the atimonan rubout.

    finally, the cat is out of the bag.

    recent news developments of the long-running story on the january 6, 2013 atimonan quezon massacre have given face to a sundry cast of characters involved in this gruesome rubout.

    so tita dinglasan is roubout specialist hansel marantan’s principal, and chief rival of the rubbed out victim vic siman in what turned out to be a fatal turf war for the total control of the jueteng-rich calabarzon area.

    also disclosed was that the trio of marantan, glenn dumlao (accused, w/ ping lacosn, in the infamous dacer-corbito double murder case), and calabarzon police (pnp) director james melad were the triumvirate who acted as the accuser, prosecutor and judge in the kangaroo court that meted out the salvaging operation against siman and 12 other people that involved the hapless supt alfredo consemino and the environmentalist tirso lontok, among other “collateral damages.”
    notorious policerubout expert in Marantan’s reported extermination of six witnesses against marantan who was accused of masterminding the killing of yet another jueteng kingpin in southern tagalog region

    the trio of marantan, melad and dumlao (old habits die hard, eh glenn?) admitted they gave the go-signal order of the rubout operation against siman when, as a newsman disclosed, ping lacson, the rubout doctorate expert (re, for one, the 1995 kuratong baleleng rubout) failed to get the dilg secretaryship.

    so that was why lacson was, right after the rubout, so profuse in heaping praises on marantan who, like melad and dumlao, was lacson’s underling and drooling aper. pnoy must also probe lacson’s role in the atimonan rubout.

    also as clear as the morning sun was the trio’s absconding w/ siman’s php96 million, said to capitalize siman’s and consemino’s security agency, as well as siman’s gold bars and diamonds and other paraphernalia.

    now, cheif pnp purisima said his probe showed it was an “ambush” and not a shootout. purisima may be guilty of sugar coating it, when he should say catergorically that it was pure rubout.

    on marantan’s hogwash claim that siman’s group was the first to draw blood when the latter fired at him (marantan), hitting him in the legs and hands. marantaqn is taxing our credulity. surely, if siman’s bodyguards, some of whom could have been sharpshooters, first fired at marantan, they could not have missaed his head, heart or at least his body. but hitting him only in his legs–and only superficially wounding this veteran rub-outer (as in lay-outer, a newspaper lay out artist)? holy cow!!

    it is now firmly established that the trio’s gameplan (of marantan, dumlao and melad) was (except for the backhoe lack) very, very maguindanao massacre in its storyline, agenda and execution–that is to say, exterminate siman and the twelve others in his entourage, pulverize them if possible. if some media or even priests went w/ them it would not have been enough to save them from certain death at marantan’s blood-soaked hands–MA-RATATATAT-NAN.

    was the trio’s operation “legit”? but how could it be when it was planned and executed by a mix of shady characters that included a corrupt police general like melad and rubout experts like marantan and dumlao.

    who were the trio’s chief backers and protectors–in the pnp or the corridors of political power–that they were so daring in pulverizing tita dinglasan’s chief rival for the  southern tagalog jueteng turf?

    to redeem itself, to regain its face and credibility, the pnoy govt must pronto abolish the pnp and put up a new police organization led and manned by virtuous, incorruptible and principled men the likes of general antonio luna and gat andres bonifacio. it can be done, if pnoy has the “balls” and conviction to do it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

      you hit the nail on the head my friend.  The whole PNP needs to be cleansed

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VHBTJ3OTFJ5P76SEXFKD2F265M neil

      I don’t think your analysis is worth ‘two cents’…1 sentimo maybe.  It is not even an analysis, it’s just purely speculations!

      • buttones

        Well all the commentary is based on incomplete information, the PNP the Palace and the NBI as well-give us a break will you! Not only that Jennifer’s comment was not actually an analysis, it was a thesis that’s all…just take her points one by one and argue against them, can you do that? Of course you can, I know you can, I’m sure you can- well? Go on then…..I’m waiting …

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/LOJSIVJESBANPIT2Z3MISGN6RY Nat-o Tiko

      Anong sinasabe mo? Paki ulitin mo nga. haha parang nakakwentuhan mo nga jeepney driver habang nag aantay ka sasakyan at ayun sinulat mo.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PWXNV4NJFCGK4KPVBPE6D3PGEU efren

    ampatuan masacre wala pang justice o nahatulan kahit na klarong klaro kung sino ang may kagagawaan,,,,,ito pa kayang atimonan incident???????????

  • duviz7533

    supt. hansel maranta do had a lots of explaining to do

    • Guest

      Yung PAOCC target kasing makuha ni Mar Roxas yan, eh kaso mukhang
      ibbigay ni PNoy kay Ping, kaya ay selos to the max si Mar

  • Guest

    Bakit kaya yaw ni MarRoxas na hawakan ni Ping Lacson ang PAOCC. Dahil ba masasagasaan ang mga illegal activities nila? Hehehe!

  • ever green

    saan ka nakakita ng check point hepe mismo ang naka poste…tapos halos 50 ang nan doon….sobra namang obvious to na may target talaga sila……

    • indiots

      nasanay ka kasi na ang nagtatrabaho yon lang mga nasa ibaba habang ang mga bosing palamiglamig lang. ibahin mo si maranta… kapag high profile talagang tinututukan n’ya.

  • disqusted0fu

    Who are there to protect our streets when the protectors are the criminals themselves? Who are there to tell us the truth when the investigators also lie? Who are there to lead us to success when the person in charge only looks out for himself?

    • $14141131

      I suggest you migrate to Japan or Australia. Police protection are intended only for the moneyed syndicates and corrupt politicians who are all over the country.

      • indiots

        kaya nga ang kailangan natin ay si marantan, walang sinisino.

  • pabulaka

    There is no need for another investigation in the Senate. Let the NBI finished their task and wait for the official report. Senate hearing will just be a waste of time and money, and it will just come out as photo ops for the coming election.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

      Its good also that there will be parallel investigation by the senate to really ferret out the truth and pinpoint the guilty party to be punished severely

  • $14141131

    Both sides, the victims and the attackers, I guess belong to different groups of syndicates thus the rubout. What could drive Marantan to wipe the flagged down group out? Encounter of criminal operation. Marantan’s wounds are self-inflicted.

    • don alto

      Kaya siguro AYAW ipakita yung supposed na mga sugat dahil WALA namang malalang tama! ….

  • Guest

    Kawawa rin si Melad at Marantan, nagtatrabaho ng matino pero di kinampihan ni PNO chief Purisima at ni DILG head Sec. Mar Roxas. Wawa.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

      The investigation is not yet finish so there is no way to know who are guilty and who are not.  Lets wait for the investigation to wind up and whoever is the guilty party should be severely punished whoever they are

      • Guest

        Hindi kaya malaki ang panghihinayang ni Sec. Roxas na napatay ang jueteng operator na si Siman? Siya kasi ang biggest contributor ng pera ng LP.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

        kung gannon,  pati is Sec. Roxas kailangan din investigahin,  lahat na kasangkot sa kasong ito either directly or indirectly should be investigated because this concern our national security already

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BWW4DQ56M5S47UEC4C34OTQWYM Redivico

    ang mahirap sa inquirer… ang palaging ngak-ngak… like ” a ranking government official told the Inquirer Sunday”, “according to the official”, “The source, who was familiar with the investigation of the killings”, “the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was in progress” etc… etc…

    ang dating nyo tuloy “TABLOID”… bweset… lalo nyo ginugulo mga tao…

    para mas mabili dyaryo nio???? bweset talaga…

    • http://twitter.com/akosijapney Al Japney J. Loredo

      You do not know journalism, mister.

    • boypalaban

      tabloid? sige nga bibili ako ng Inquirer….baka may seksi na model sa frontpage….

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OMNEL2G2GDUDZFL6P3WRMBTQX4 AprilFool

      Wag kang magbasa ng Inquirer para wag kang ma-bweset!

  • Guest

    Dahil napatay si Siman, nabawasan ng financiers ang LP at si Mar Roxas this coming elections.
    Naghihinayang sila ngayon.

    • Guest

      Sobrang mina-manipulate ni Sec. Roxas itong news story na ito
      para palabasin ang rubout ang Atimonan shooting incident.

      • Edward Castro

        di naman rubout yun, ambush/massacre e.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DKHID3EEHTG27U5JXRIIUVKXQA Jose Rizal

    This only shows that Noynoy is INUTILE as a CEO in the pursuit of Justice, but an effective/efficient god of vindictiveness only to Gloria and his political opponents.
    Unsolved were 1) Dacer-Corbito murder case (but he allied with the prime suspect to gain political advantage); 2) Maguindanao Massacre [no additional funds were allocated for evidence gathering but funded more on condom & pills distribution, and distribution of PORK & PERKS to Senate & lower house just to pass the bill;  3) The daily street crimes at the Metro were still rampant esp in Cubao, Caloocan, Pasay and other areas

    Hahahahahahaha!  Matatalinong Pinoy, naloko lang ng isang abnoy!
    Hahahahahahaha!

    Doon sa drama vs Corona, Gloria & RH Bill, epektibo niyang napakalat ang propaganda,namahagi ng PORK & PERKS. Pati pa mga professors (kuno) at si Artemio Panganiban (kay Sereno) todo ang publicidad at supporta. Ngayon sa ganitong klaseng action na kailangan MAGPAKALALAKI at di Boy Abunda-style ang banatan, wala EPEK pare.
    Hahahahahahaha! Naloko na!

    • elvisaya

      namo..!

    • boypalaban

      baka ma-solve sa pamamagitan ng paglalaro ng PSP….

      • indiots

        paanong magkakaasawa yon. baka kasama ang girlfriend PSP pa rin ang kinukutingting he he he

    • don alto

      Ikaw ba yan, TIGLAO Jr.??  … hahaha …

      MAG-MOVE ON ka na PARE !!! …LOL!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

    My goodness,  if some of the soldiers and police were not safe anymore then what will happen to us,  the ordinary civilians.  This incident is really creating a chilling effect on the populace.  Cleanse the PNP from the top to the bottom and from inside out of any corrupt elements to be sure that this incident will not happen again and to assure the civilians that they are still safe in this country

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/74DX67S5U6H557SPUXS5XZ6QJI Alisto Juan

    Sa aking lang, inunahan lang ni Marantan si Siman dahil may banta na rumesbak dahil sa pagpatay sa mga tauhan n’ya. Ang problema lang dyan mahina yung intel ni Consemino, operation officer pa naman. Tama yung isang report na may negotiation nangyari sa Camarines parti sa operation ng minahang bayan, si Lontok ang negotiator sa NPA, Si Consemino sa secutiry guards, yung Airforce intel, sa military, yung hitman ay contak sa mga bungoton, kaya completo ang team.

    Ganoon din dito sa Mindanao, pag nag-operate ka ng minahang bayan, contakin mo ang lahat na grupo mula NPA, Military. Loose Command, Politiko, Ransakero, LGU, etc., pag di mo nakulsulta lahat na interesado sa ginto, magugulo yung operation. Happy lahat dito dahil yan ay buhay-buhay lang, kaya maraming minahan dito, dyan sa Luzon ay bengahan ng bala. .

  • Jamm3r

    ang totoo dito sa balitang ito eh ang gulo ng Inquirer magbalita … noong nakaraang araw shoot-out … ngayon naman eh tipong ambush daw. ano ba talaga inquirer, ginugulo at nililito n’yo ang taong bayan. hintayin n’yo na lang ang resulta ng imbestigasyon bago kayo magbalita nakakasawa na kayo.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H47CPJUE4QYKFUCKSUXK3LNBGI Allan

    what are the chances that a police officer involved in four “shootouts”  killing all the people on the other side (40???!!!) come out very much alive?

    • buttones

      Clearly the chances are very good…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H47CPJUE4QYKFUCKSUXK3LNBGI Allan

    when the SOCO can no longer be trusted, how would we proceed with the investigation? investigation is solely based on evidence and if the evidence is already tainted…

  • Guest

    Masyadong malalim ang ugat ng Atimonan incident. Malamang na
    sangkot pa diyan si Sec. Mar Roxas. Hindi kaya?

  • farmerpo

    50 pairs of eyes on the scene and no witnesses. Have eyes but don’t see, have ears but don’t hear, have mouths but just for eating, have tongue just for licking…. next case, please….

  • Guest

    Lumabas na pala PNP reports sa Atimonan incident. Buti naman di
    nila sinabit si Sec. Ochoa.

    • http://www.facebook.com/adel.reyes Adel Caringal Reyes

      impossible walang on hand-go signal ang malacanang

      • tukmoldinako

        ang alam ko dyan , coplan armado ay alam ng malacanang’  pero hindi ibig sabihin , bawat galaw ay may go signal ang malacanang”  dahil alam mo na , kung ipapaalam pa sa malacanang yan , hindi mahuhuli ang mga skalawag,  maraming pipirma at dadaanan, bago maganap ang panghuhuli , alam na ito ng mga hinuhuli. 

        baliktarin mo ang pangyayari, nahuli si Vic Siman, buhay eh yung mga bodyguard na mga police lalo na si Supt. Consemino of Calabarzon, bakit sya kasama ni Siman. Pababayaan ba ni Consemino na mahuli si Siman ng buhay, pakikiusapan yan at wala na namang mangyayari diba? Eh di wlang nahuli at walang kwento.

        Nagkataon lang na ang pagkamatay ng 13 bad luck number ay may kahinahinala
        kaya may kwento.  Isa pa , si Marantan na naman ang involved sa killing, eh kilala sa rubout yan at medyo nagkakabuhol buhol pa ang investigasyon si di tugma tugmang kwento ng pulis na umambus mismo , meaning palpak ang plano  kaya lumaki ang kwento.

        Kung naging perfect ang pagkagawa, syempre , baligtad din lahat sa malacanang dahil aani sila ng papuri ng tao at sila mismo ang magsasabi na legal ang operasyon. Pagpalpak, medyo deny para di masangkot sa kamalian, lol 

  • Penoy2016

    Hansel Marantan (then sr. inspector who was then team leader), et al, one of the accused in alleged police rub out killing three men while inside a maroon Nissan Exalta along Garnet Street in Ortigas, Pasig City, on Nov. 7, 2005, in what police claimed to be a legitimate encounter with members of the so-called Valle Verde Gang, a group of young car thieves whose families live in the posh Valle Verde Subdivision in Pasig City. But a video footage taken by a UNTV crew showed the policemen firing at close range upon the victims who were already lying motionless in the car. (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/173513/ma-of-ortigas-%E2%80%98rubout%E2%80%99-victim-asks-sc-to-quickly-resolve-6-yr-old-case)

    Now, in this Atimonan incident, he is also physically present again as team leader. 

  • Paliwaweng

    Sibakin si Marantan.
    Sibakin ang mga SOCO officials/men involved in the cover-up. (their initial reports are meant to mislead the investigators)
    And the alibis of Marantan were ‘amazing’.
    As per allegations, these men were ‘gun-for-hire’ syndicates. Why did they shoot him in his foot?
    Indicators are obvious from different accounts they give to the fact-finding team created by PNP.
    Iba-iba ang statements ng bawat tinatanong.
    As they said, truth will take care of itself.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VHBTJ3OTFJ5P76SEXFKD2F265M neil

    PDI just made public the incomplete and inconclusive investigation by the NBI through their “PDI sources who does not want to be identified”.  The public and most of the bloggers here posted their speculations.  Are these not all classified information at the moment and can we not just wait for the final and complete NBI report when all these information will be declassified for the public?

    • buttones

      It’s a forum my dear, that’s all, people expressing views and ideas, if we were all just to wait for official findings then the forum is pointless…it’s like being at a dinner party and someone raises a subject, the host is going to say “NO,NO! you cannot discuss that, there has been no official findings!” So the assembled go back to discussing the finer points of loan interest rates- whatever– and buttones, on the pretence of using the CR, climbs out of the window, climbs down the drain pipe….and is never heard from again…This is what you want? Jeeze!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VHBTJ3OTFJ5P76SEXFKD2F265M neil

        CRAP!…and you know it!

      • buttones

        Very well said, I like the inclusion of the word ‘crap’ that must have taken hours, how these long winter evenings must simply fly by…..have you considered a career in journalism? I mean having to say a hundred times a day “You want fries with that?” and being able to say ‘crap’ must give you some relief……

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VHBTJ3OTFJ5P76SEXFKD2F265M neil

        on the other hand, i can imagine you like a fat lady talking or discussing with the other lady with no front teeth on a wooden staircase…otherwise known as doing “tsismis”

      • buttones

        You have to do better than that my dear! I’ll give you two out of ten for the effort, the ‘wooden staircase’ was interesting, trying to paint a picture with words? OMG! Do you have a long way to go…….

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002398216749 Jason Ladd

    It’s Kuratong Baleleng Shootout De Javu again. it’s a white wash from day 1. Those victims will never get justice….mark it!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/adel.reyes Adel Caringal Reyes

      yo..jason… pero para makalusot TAKBO cya senador…lusot na rin.

    • indiots

      lalo naman ang mga naging biktima ng kuratong baleling mo. nabigyan ba sila ng hustisya?hah?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PZR7JI7G2WD2CTVMZ7LM667FD4 Ugly Bunny

    Senate inquiry?! Linisin nyu muna sarili nyong bakuran Revilla. Tsk tsk.

  • carlorocci

    Clear and simple, it was AMBUSHED. There was no check-point whatsoever…….. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSBNZB3TEKHJE5A74STZTTUHC4 ed0408

    Marantan could have shoot himself in the head or abdomen. He could not have been a suspect to the killings. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VKT3B5OOXYBAL3Y527CWQEWRSE nestor

    para sa lahat…….ang Check Point ay para sa taong bayan, pero kung ikaw ay may isang malalim na dahilan at ayaw mong mabisto natural lang na ikaw ay lalaban upang ikaw ay hindi mahuli.
    alam natin lahat yan di ba Juan dela Cruz.

    • Dean Martin

      e kung paghubadin ka ng damit at salwal. maghuhubad kb kung wala kang itinatago? at sabihin sayo tumuwad ka at baka nakasingit sa puwet mo ang shabu , tutuwad kb kung wala ka namang shabu s puwet mo?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KF2TCBJ2AUC7VIPR3TACWUGITE Rednaxela VD

    What is the press portraying now?  That these Atimonan 13 are like heroes??  And that Marantan and the other policemen are the criminals bec of human rights violations or turf wars?

    The fact is Siman is known in Calabarzon as a kingpin.  His kids go to exclusive schools and he drives expensive cars, has big houses.  Takot bangaain sa Laguna because of his MAFIA.

    Mabuti na nga at nawala na yang mga salot na Siman group na yan.  Sorry na lang yung mga nadamay.. collateral damage.. pero for sure, may nakukuha rin ang mga yan at nakinabang kay Siman kaya justice pa din..

    Don’t be fooled, Noynoy authorized this “strike” and for me, he was not wrong at all.

    This should serve as a reminder to all hooligans, NPA, criminals the government means business and your days are numbered.

    Media, let this issue be put to rest and on to the liquidation of the next organized crime group!

    • buttones

      I can hardly imagine Aquino authorizing ambushes when he has the entire weight of security and Law behind him in order to achieve transparent, procedural justice.
      Forget that idea. Ok, none of us have a problem with the streets being littered with dead criminals, apart from the inconvenience of having to drive round them, and the smell of course- but this is not the way orderly societies attend to their problems of crime is it…. IS IT?

      • tukmoldinako

        the Aquinos never authorized ambushes, but PnP had an instinct to make an ambush, knowing procedural justice will not end in their favor specially holligans who possessed all the money and resources. I knew a military man who was so irritated when during the trial with all the evidences and still those skalawag walk away using their influence and money. He said to me ,” sana tinumba nalang namin,  ang nakinabang yung lawyer”. Lol, that sometimes we cannot blame the military.

      • buttones

        As you say, forget the Aquino angle but on to the PNP, facing this frustration you speak of, and the case maybe that the PNP have lost all faith in the judicial process that sees many a criminal winning a case , using this or that method, but it hardly excuses them for taking penalty into their own hands does it.
        On the comment about military men, well I don’t answer to the military, even a General with his ribbons and bows means nothing to me, they have no rights over the people of this nation anyway. A PO1 flagging me down for a road check no problem, a General, looking like a Xmas tree, forget it, unless it’s martial Law of course…..

      • tukmoldinako

        right , still not an excuse to put the sentence into their hands. Look and read to another issue coming from Mr. Allan Purisima and you will surely laugh at how PNPA are taught to be corrupt.

        thanks

      • buttones

        Actually I’ve just got through with complimenting Alan on his wonderful hat, and asked the cheeky question of where he actually bought it… fancy dress party coming up and I thought about going as a PNP Chief, heels , leather mini, nice hat- [well you know the sort of thing] at least everybody would know who I came as- sans teeth of course….my mother offered her teeth to complete the ensemble actually but a girl has to know when to draw the line don’t you think?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KF2TCBJ2AUC7VIPR3TACWUGITE Rednaxela VD

        ALL of you obviously dont know the real AQUINO.  DO you still think he has the halo on? haha

      • buttones

        What you say is very true, no I do not know the REAL Aquino, and have little interest either. My social circuit tends to rise above this sort of ’servant’ crowd, I am the ’boss’ is this not true? Well Aquino said it was the case, so I have no interest in the squalid, dismal lives of my servants , I find it rather boring actually, a servant with a halo on? Now THAT is funny! I believe ’servants’ should keep there mouths shut, and do as they are told- that is the order of things … I do hope you are reading this Simone…. You were employed to do a ’job’ , stop messing around and get on with it boy… and stop blathering on about your mother, now THAT really is boring …..

      • ARIKUTIK

        A girl must not splash around portrait in tiny attire, taken lately. Modestly of old long gone days is image of beauty…. like ratatat of hot smoking gun …… weeeee >>>>>> ???   

      • tukmoldinako

        as to the PNP before the start of an operation, the line was been drawn, they have plan A , Plan B, or even a plan C. the massacre could be plan C. We don’t know what really happen, or what was the intention was? But for sure Malacanang knows the Oplan Armado. But of course, not every move of the PNP does have a nod by malacanang, if it is so, the intention will become fruitless.

        The big question was why a high ranking officer in the name of P/Supt plus a group of soldiers from dift branch of AFP was with Vic Siman, to protect Siman from check points?, surely P/Supt Consemino will persuade Marantan to let them pass and nothing will happen, ending up with  no news in the media. If that is so, no skalawag will be  ever be stopped.

        The Malacanang denying the operation is when thing happened bad, or turns out kaputz. But if the operation turns out to be perfectly done, malacanang will be publishing the honor , the yellow tarts fly, their big achievements. Thats the way life goes for the PNP to be alive is better than dead meat, and be concern of the repercussion later. lol

      • buttones

        It is the role of POACC that confuses me, who are, by all accounts there to provide policymaking, support to law enforcement agencies, such as legal services, logistical or technical support, including cash if they have it, [my words]. They said [this is from memory] the were aware of the plan, but were unable to fund. The next statement was that they were aware of the plan but did not approve because it was going to be ’bloody’.. [ good premonition actually- they were certainly right there!] And it is also stated that no approval is required for POACC anyway, they have no control over the actions of the PNP nor the military. Now, SOMEBODY does have ultimate control, it has to be so, it is in fact the President. If it was the case from POACC that this coplan was going to be ‘bloody’, by definition not a very good idea, then the President, assuming he knew about all of this, was the guy to stop the whole idea. Clearly this did not happen and the plan went ahead. The logical conclusion is, the President did not know about this plan [a bit remiss if you ask me] or he did and let it go ahead regardless.. The President is the Commander in Chief of all our security branches, he ALWAYS has the final say, it is how it should be, the buck has to stop somewhere.

        And now, given the fact this incident is blasted all over the world it leaves us, PH in a very sorry state, we are already number ten in the world in gun deaths, my President advocates no change , Congress has little interest and even now, forced by circumstance are dusting off ancient Bill proposals to curb the use of firearms.

        I’ve said it before, for some reason ’we’ as a nation are 100% reactive, our concept of being proactive does not seem to exist, we see it in floods from legal and illegal logging, appalling urban/ rural planning, our waterways choked by garbage, weeds, trash discarded by humans, and we watch all this going on and never do a thing about it until it all hit’s the fan.

        I find no solace in the bear market, nor a perceived remarkable GDP growth either..

        Sorry, I’m off the topic,,, [again]

         

      • ARIKUTIK

        Sabi ng kanyang show director, ” Bossing bumaba ang iyong Rating, kailangang  “gumawa tayo ng blockbuster movie”. “Ano bang uso ngayon ?” Tanong ni Boss. Sumagot yong security guard, “Sir jueteng po, kakagatin sa takilya”, Nag isip si Boss….. ” Ok, APPROVE ! Jueteng movie”… “Anong e title natin Boss”….. sagot ni Bossing, “puro kayo engot, lahat na lang ay inaasa ninyo sa idea ng aking utak, ang title ay “Kulto Armada” at si Ratatat ang bida”…. “OK boss kami bahala, meron na kaming napiling kontrabida si Huweteng Semin”….. “Tiyak sisikat tayo dito, paktay si jueteng king” …. And so it was Nagratatat si Ma Ratatat…… for another SHOWBIZZ of Anti Jueteng. Kaso ang daming nadamay kaya …. “Aba wala akong alam diyan hindi yan APPROVED” Biglang baligtad ng Rating hungry Boss.   

    • boypalaban

      kumusta ka na General Palparaos?

    • tukmoldinako

      i liked your theory but not the way they are masacared , well the PNP might have judge  them better to be killed, because as we all know, kingpins have lots of money and resources to avail them a walk in the park, so the sentence was been given them.

      For sure, wala nang hirap , pag nakawala yang mga yan, parang sampal sa kanila, dahil hinuli mo pakakawalan din ng mga bayarang abogado, sila pa kumita. lol

    • Edward Castro

      kung gustong eliminate si siman, pwede naman surgical hit para malinis imbes na ambush style bloody at messy.. 

    • Dean Martin

      Mabuhay si Palparan, ibalik si Palparan.

  • http://twitter.com/akosijapney Al Japney J. Loredo

    It’s part of journalism, they have to protect the identity of their sources. That’s how it goes, just so you know.

  • http://twitter.com/akosijapney Al Japney J. Loredo

    They have to protect the identities of they sources. That’s how it goes, that’s journalism.

  • akoombulator

    numero uno sa pagtatanim ng ebidensya ang pnp lahat ng pulis may dalang pakete ng shabu laging nakahanda itanim kanino man mag ingat sa pulis

  • EdsonArantesDoNascimiento

    Ok lang magpatayan silang lahat!!!!Pareparehong mga demonyo silang lahat!!!!Sana,sana bumulagta at mamatay na silang lahat na pulis,politiko,tagagobyerno, at macalanang.Salot at demonyo kayong lahat.Mamatay na sana kayo mga PI,SOB kayo!!!!!!!!!!DEMONYO KAYONG LAHAT!!!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZVYGTQD62BG53XYZ5MD2ICMFGY yahoo-ZVYGTQD62BG53XYZ5MD2ICMFGY

    Mmmm.. If there is a shootout I think the first instinct of the driver is to step on the gas… Pero dito nothing happened, para lang naka park ang vehicles, for me it is a sign of being caught off guard. Something is wrong really…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AVAYTL7DMB3PI4XTE4L4KGC3JY boy

    matagal na ako sa serbisyo, pano makakaputok ang mga nasa loob ng sasakyan laban sa nag ambush sa kanila

    • Mattino2011

       at dagdag mo pa sarado mga windows..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AVAYTL7DMB3PI4XTE4L4KGC3JY boy

    sa ganyan sitwasyon ng makarinig ng putok ang mga nag aabang sa labas ng armado, ang gagawin ng mga yan ay magpapaputok na din sa target na van. ala na ding nag command ng cease fire kaya pinulbos ng husto ang mga van, pinag daanan kona yan laban sa kalaban ng gobyerno na npa

  • Rod Laver

    Magsalita na yung mga walang alam sa operasyon na yan, lalo na yung mga sundalong idinamay ni Col. Marantan sa sinasabing checkpoint. Mag state witness na kayo. papayag ba kayong makulong na hindi nyo alam kung bakit? isipin nyo na lang kung sa inyo nangyari yan?  

  • Pitbulldog

    “Source not named on condition of anonymity”.  These are the sources of PDI.  We are not fools not to know that anybody can provide you with any information and PDI will just repeat that in print verbatim. Or your writers can easily concoct their own version of the story and use that usual tact of a lying writer. The danger is that some who have biased feelings against lawmen will take that as a fact and make their premature judgment.  This is the downside of a free media.  They can make up stories and sell them as truths, make simpletons into heroes and mediocre politicians into leaders and/or presidents.  Sa sobra dami sources nyo, pati kayo nalilito.  Kung may exit holes ang sasakyan, dapat may nagpaputok.  Passengers may have punched those holes with screw driver.  They have guns but they did not use them as you want us to believe.  They have powder burns.  They did not shoot, probably they were shot in close range a la firing squad.

    • $40586212

      maybe kasabwat sa jueteng ang sources nila..he..he..

    • D_BystandeR

      What a conflicting opinion you have that in a way we can interpret that you are siding with the lawmen because you blame PDI as accepting from questionable sources that readers who sympathized with the victims become “simpletons” because they treat it as gospel truth what they read in PDI. In another case you claim that the victims have guns and the holes were done by the victims using “screwdrivers” and that’s stretching too far your absurd reasoning. And that “powder burns” indicate they were fired upon “in close range, a la firing squad.” Anyway, what I understand is that you’re posting your view to side with the “killers.” If you do not know what you are writing about, that you are doing this for the sake of those who commit the “rubout,” that’s good for you. And I just hope it will not happen to your loved ones.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    PERO SA TINGIN KO JAN NAG PAPUTOK TALAGA NG BARIL YUNG NAKASAKAY SA BAN KAYA NIRATRAT SILA UBOS SILA SA LOOB NADAMAY NA YUNG MGA WALA ALAM!! KAYA WAG NA SISIHIN ANG MGA PULIS TAO LANG NAG KAKAMALI PERO YUNG BUHAY DI NA MAIBABALIK! MASAKIT MAN DUN SA PAMILYA

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OMNEL2G2GDUDZFL6P3WRMBTQX4 AprilFool

    Quotes from Atty. Eduardo Escueta Napolcom Vice Chairman: “”Ang amin pong tinitignan bakit parang ang purpose ng checkpoint ay patayin kaagad at wag nang pagbigyan na makatigil, makalabas ng sasakyan.” 
    “Checkpoint police operations procedure ay may dala kayong megaphone… Ganoon po sana hindi yung pagdating ng insidente huminto yung dalawang sasakyan, ang purpose agad ay makipagbarilan.”
    “Kaya po isa sa mga isyu yan na dapat naming alamin bukod dun po ay yung issue kung bakit may mga kasamang pulis itong grupo na napatay at bakit ang checkpoint ay napakarami nang tao na may composite membership pa. Indication po yan na planadong-plano ang pangyayari pero bakit pagpatay kaagad ang parang punto ng kanilang checkpoint?”
    And also, Col. Marantan is assigned with the Intelligence Group of Region 4A, bakit siya ang nagmamando sa checkpoint? Intel operatives do not carry firearm, do not participate in actual police operations. They only gather info as regard to a certain subejct.
    Col. Marantan violated all the Police Operational Procedures.
     Col. Marantan is a cold-blooded killer. Hindi pa tapos ang kaso nito sa Valle Verde shoot out at Paranaque encounter, bakit nasa duty pa siya? There’s something fishy here.

    • Pitbulldog

      E kung intelligence report ay 2 armado lang ang darataing, mali yong maglagay ng isang batalyon talaga.  E sa dami nyan, 2 o 3 lang ilagay mo kaya na pulis, makahuli naman kaya yon?

      • indiots

        at saka gun for hire ang babanggain mo di ka maghahanda? may guts lang talagang mga pulis ang bumabangga sa ganyang organized group. buhayin mo yan reresbak yan sa mga inosenting kapamilya ng mga pulis.

      • D_BystandeR

        You based your conclusion on the wrong premise. Hindi mga “gun for hire” ang mga taong inaabangan nila sa checkpoint. Katunayan dito ay si Supt. Alfredo “Boy” Consemino na isang desenting opisyal na pulis. Huwag mong basihan ang kanilang ibinunyag na “intelligence report” daw na puro mga “underworld gang members” ang sasagupain nila  kaya ganyan ang kanilang paghanda dahil gusto nilang sa isang “iglap” ay patayin kaagad ang mga nasa loob ng dalawang sasakyan. They were actually preparing to “annihilate” everybody in the group, that’s it.

      • indiots

        ubusin na ang mga yan. biruin mo pagkatapos ng bola, inaabot ng kalahating araw ang pagbibilang ng kinitang pera ng grupo.

    • D_BystandeR

      Ewan ko ba, baka ang mga superior officers niya ay nakibahagi rin sa kanyang mga kinikita sa “masamang paraan.”

  • sk2tk

    nagpatayan ang mga DEMONYO, lahat yan SALOT, sana lang WALA NG NATIRA sa kanilang lahat. Cno niloko nila? KASAKIMAN ang nagtulak sa mga yan para MAGPATAYAN!! pare parehas kaseng GAHAMAN.. magsimatay na kayong lahat..

    • VooDoo

      hekhekhek…. puso mo brad…

      totoo yan.. trigger happy kasi yang gong-gong na si hansel.. mula pagkalabas ng academy, puro rub-out at pagnanakaw ang nalalaman..

      • $40586212

        bakit parang kilalang kilala mo si Marantan…do you know him personally?

      • VooDoo

        personally di ko kilala si maratrat bro.. pero nasundan ko mga kaso na involved sya.. 

        know him?.. 

      • $40586212

        hindi ko rin kilala si Marantan sa balita lang…pero kasi sabi mo mula noong lumabas sa academy…baka akala ko kilala mo.

      • VooDoo

        may mga kakilala lang ako na kilala nia brod.. sugod talaga ng sugod to.. pang apat na “shootout” (kuno) na nia to.. ortigas and paranaque are among the list.. pnpa class 98..

      • $40586212

        Malaki ang problema natin dito sa Pinas dapat linisin ni Aquino ang justice system.  Walang mangyayari sa atin…confuse na nga ako sa lahat…di mo na alam kung sino ang pakinggan. So corrupted ang system. Kung may probable cause, dapat warrant of arrest at magsampa ng kaso ang gobierno. Kaya lang parang sa tingin ko malabo or talagang wala ng justice system ang bansa natin. Sad. Pati NBI di ko ma trust.

      • VooDoo

        wala na talaga ang pinas.. dahilan kasi sa kasakiman… minsan naintindihan ko bakit may mga rebelde.. cguro ang ugat ng lahat ay dahil lang sa jueteng.. bakit di nila kayang itumba ang ilocos at pampanga.. ang hirap.. 

    • D_BystandeR

      Mali ang nasa isip mo! walang nagpatayan dito. ang nangyari ay “ambush o summary execution.” Walang kalabanlaban ang mga biktima!

  • opinyonlangpo

    I’m not sure about the PDI version but other articles stated that no gunfire came from inside the vans and PNP report says it was clearly an ambush, no shootout happened.

  • Your_King

    Conflicting stories, confusion, corruption, disorganization, and just one fine mess! This is a reflection of President Aquino and his administration. If this operation was approved by the President’s office then that’s not good and if this operation was not approved and still it went down then also not good. What does that say of the Philippine leadership when orders are not followed? Aquino most often times acts after the fact and sometimes not at all. This was a bloody ambush. It shows that authorities and those in power will take the law into their own hands if they can justify the act…just like Aquino and De Lima.

    • $40586212

      e corrupted nga talaga ang justice system. Wala ng mangyari sa Pinas…puro kalokohan. Everything is a joke.

      • Your_King

        Exactly! ever since Aquino took over he’s implemented his selective justice system. Yup things are a joke and it seems Aquino is leading with his comedic ambitions.

      • tagalinis

        And you would like the government to revert to the old ways of GMA, is that it?

      • Your_King

        So you’re telling me Aquino’s new way is for mid-ranked officials to ignore higher-ranked officials and engage in crooked acts like ambushing 13 people?

      • ManongOsang

        You king, Unggoy ! Nagpapatawa ka ba ?

        Are you a Comedian??? If these happened in past administrations such as the Kuratong under Erap- IT WOULD BE A TOTAL COVER-UP ! The Top PNP officials are NOT accountable.

        Dito kay PNOY, there is Pressure from both PNOY & Mar on Purisima. Purisima then exerts orders NO COVER-Up on his subordinates.

        Your comment has to be One of the Most Stupid comments about this incident.

        You said Aquino has comedic ambitions? He is YOUR President & he is NOT running for any post.

        Kaya walang mangyari sa Pilipinas because we have TONS of Morons like Your King .  Mas Tanga ka pa sa UNGGOY !!!

        By the way moron, Ang Problema ng PNP and ng Justic System sa Pilipinas has BEEN Rotten since PNOY was a child when Marcos first took office,Sirang Sira ang PNP way before we had the Internet ! Huwag kang Tangga ! BAWAL ang Enggot dito !!!

      • Your_King

        Yes Aquino does have comedic ambitions. Did you not see his traveling comedy show in NZ and AU where he went off and offended the disabled? Aquino is also the King of cover-ups for his KKK. Just look at Padaca or Llamas or Puno.

      • D_BystandeR

        Your comments are all bordering on nonsense! Why connect it with 
        P-Noy’s administration just because you want to drag the good name of P-Noy? The reaction of P-Noy into this tragedy is admirable. And if only you’re not blinded by ulterior motive you will readily feel the sincerity of our President to solve this in due time because he too is aware that lives are lost in senseless killings.

      • Your_King

        PAOCC is directly under Aquino. Either his guy approved the operation or the people under his guy ignored Aquino’s guy. This is a reflection of leadership or lack thereof. Those corrupt police officials saw the President and DOJ ignore the laws and procedures so i’m sure they followed suit.

  • regd

    Hehehe… matutulad ito sa Ninoy murder. Hangang ngayon walang tamang version andaming conspiracy theory. Darating na lang ang Panginoon mag-aaway pa rin ang mga tao kung ano talaga ang nangyayari!

  • VooDoo

    bakit walang…

    1. COPLAN RODOLFO at

    2. COPLAN LUIS ??

    malaki pa tongpats o takot ang mga pulpolitiko at lispung mga magnanakaw at gahaman katulad at isa na dito si hansel…

    mga inutil!.. pag sinakalan na ng pera ang bibig mananahimik na kaagad.. 

  • $40586212

    I don’t trust NBI’s findings on this investigation…they are leaking evidences. Bias sila.They are a joke.

    • D_BystandeR

      You do not dismiss it right away as bias because some of its findings were “leaked.” From what I read, bits of info from NBI considered as “leak” are so far so good. It depends upon whether you are viewing it from the side of those involved in the “rubout” or from the side of those who are the victims.

      • $40586212

        Ang point ko lang naman ay dapat ma try ito sa court of law…hindi sa media. Kung may probable cause dapat warrant of arrest…magsampa ng kaso,trial then husgahan kung sino ang may sala.  Ang sa akin lang huwag naman sa media. At saka dapat may jury ang justice system para fair on both sides. At dapat hindi nagpapasok ang NBI ng media sa loob ng imbestigasyon…sa akin lang ay hindi tama. Dapat sa korte suriin ang mga evidence na yan. Just a thought.  

  • boybakal

    Latest report….the Unlucky 13 shoot each other.
    Kaya may powder burns at walang tinamaan sa check point.

  • Albert Einstien

    para silang SITTING DUCKS….binanatan sila ng predators….grabe…

    ” It is possible that there was no exchange of gunfire and that the guns reportedly recovered from the scene were planted to make it appear that those killed were armed, according to the official. ”
    “It’s actually possible that they tested positive for gunpowder because they were shot at close range,” ……. ito ky yun PANIGURADO na PATAY LAHAT at nalagyan ng mga gun powder ang mga 13 BANGKAY   ?

    posible kayang binaril ng BANGKAY  si colonel ?…ang hirap isipin….flesh wound sa arm at leg lang tama nya KAHARAP nya  13 na mga heavily armed ,TRAINED & HEINOUS criminals….sa SHOOT-OUT…..parang CHINESE legendary MOVIES a….. : > )

    • D_BystandeR

      There is a big possibility that the wounds of Hansel Marantan are self-inflicted. Imagine, his foot was immediately placed inside the “plastercast?” And reports had it that Marantan refused to have his wounds examined. The examination of his wounds would prove crucial to the question that it is self-inflicted because the wounds would indicate the bullet trajectory in relation to his alleged position taken during the said “encounter.”

      • Albert Einstien

        good point…trajectory & powder burns on his leg & arm will bind him….lol

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYCOAGIL35OAIRH2T6QH3IZUMY Ike

    Dapat lahat ng patrol vehicles e me dashboard camera. This is a very cheap and simple technology. Hindi sila gagastos ng milyon milyon dito. That way, there will always be a recorded accounts of what have transpired. Anyone who had watch “Dangerous Police Videos” on TV had seen its effectiveness. Why has this not been implemented by the PNP????? Because they cannot cover their wrong doings anymore!!!!

  • lostRunes

     Hay nako Inqrer! Pagkatapos niyo siraan ang mga biktima at sabihin na aprubado ng Palasyo tong operasyon bigla kayong baliktad. Hirap kas sa mga YELLOW media, pinapaniwalaan kasi agad ang government/police version. So nakuryente kayo, no?

    Eto sinabi niyo dati.

    CALAMBA, Laguna—The gun battle in Atimonan town, Quezon province, that left 13 people dead on Sunday was the culmination of a three-month police operation approved by the Presidential Anti-Organized Crime Commission (PAOCC) headed by Executive Secretary Paquito Ochoa Jr.

    “They rolled down their windows and started firing, so we had to retaliate,” Abang said by cellphone from the scene of the clash. “They were clearly outnumbered and outgunned.”

    “Capiña said eight .45 cal. pistols, one M-16 rifle and one M-14 rifle were recovered from the alleged gang members.”

    “De Leon said the 13 men slain in the fire fight were members of a big-time drug syndicate.

    The following week “De Leon insisted that he had nothing to do with the police-military operation in Atimonan because he was still on vacation when it happened.”

    “Inquirer sources from the anti-illegal gambling movement Krusada ng Bayan Laban sa Jueteng led by retired Lingayen-Dagupan Archbishop Oscar Cruz on Wednesday said one of the three slain policemen, Supt. Alfredo Consemino, and Siman appeared in their records of people in southern Luzon involved in jueteng.”

    “But sources told the Philippine Daily Inquirer on condition of anonymity
    that Lontok began living a double life barely three years ago when he
    entered the dangerous world of illegal gambling.”

    Lakas manira tong dyaryong to kahit wala matibay na ebidensiya kundi yung “sources”. Di ba kayo din lumabas nung 45 properties? Nandaya yung UST?. Walang ebidensya na kasama si Consemino, si Lontok sa jueteng. Huwag niyo sirain ang magandang pangalan nila.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GUVVKS4SPGK5S5C5ZR4D2N2M5I anak ng sultan

    baka si pacquiao na ang susunod na ipatumba, isa din kasi sya sa pinakamalaking gambling LORD dito sa south central mindanao, las two, swertres, 4d, 6d, sabagay mga kapatid naman nya ang nag mamanage..

  • Paliwaweng

    unsolicited advice sa mga naagrabyado ni Maratrat.
    Ibili nyo ng armas yung perang pangaareglo sa namatay na kamaganak o kapatid nyo. Samahan nyo na ng TNT hehehehe. Alam nyo na ang kasunod, kahit sinong Marantan, gawin nyo ang ginawa sa inyong kamaganak o kapatid.
    Kasi malamang, may ‘back-up’ na malakas tong trigger-happy na ‘to, kaya maluluto lang ang kaso, kaya sabi nga nila, ‘give him a dose of his own medicine’.

  • superpilipinas

    the most disappointing thing until today….no one from the government is taking responsibility for the obvious problems with PNP. the government is in denial and it is the root cause of all problems plaguing the AFP, PNP, and other law enforcement agencies, and so this happens over and over again.

     
    even if they say the 13 were legitimate criminals, no one can deny the operation which now involved PAOCC are so full of doubts.

     
    the contrast with western countries is very clear where the chief of police and sometimes even the president will come out and apologize when it is already clear to the people that the police committed some error, totally or partially. from there they do genuine corrective actions that are consulted with people and publish. the problem is never repeated.

    • $40586212

      In this country, we will never know the truth. The justice system has failed its people. 

  • wawa2172

    Ping is playing it safe , abswelto kaagad ang PAOCC kahit wala pang investigation. Dumlao is with PAOCC so wala itong sabit although it was he who confirmed that the Coplan was approved by the palace which turn out be be not as denied by his superior. It does not mean that if PAOCC is just a funding agency then its not involved. The truth is military actions will push through if its budgeted. Hindi naman libri ang bala na ipuputok. As it was mentioned in earlier report by the inquirer that there was 20 minute gun battle. Again there was no gun battle so assuming 20 minutes ang putok, tiyak gutay-gutay ang katawan nang nasa Montero. Maratnan should be directly be responsible and has lot to explain while the PAOCC must be punished also for inefficiency and inability to control the situation if there is a truth that it disapproved the Kuratong Baleleng type of rubout. What about disbanding the useless PAOCC and put Dumlao in freezer again to avoid rubouts to happen and become a culture of police operation na. . 

    • D_BystandeR

      Every time Dumlao’s name appear there is always a “killing.” It is not far-fetched to think that he still has the stigma of his trigger-happy days when he was still under Lacson in PAOCTF. The suggestion to put him in the “freezer” is very appropriate and is very much applicable to Hansel Marantan in whose hands 40 lives are already credited to him.

  • boybakal

    The names of massacre victims were published. We know who they are.
    But who are the police and military involved in the killings.May we know also the names who killed them other than Marantan.
    He cannot be a one army, killing all those people.

    How many platoons were involved or is it a batallion.
    The last time we heard, they were relieved, as in police parlance, relieved means transfer only to other assignment.
    And the next thing you know, they are promoted.
    Let’s be fair….please publish the names of the killers as they did to the killed.

    • D_BystandeR

      From what I read earlier, 16 police officers at the checkpoint led by Marantan were in civilian attire who reportedly approached the two SUVs while a few meters away were the group of army soldiers led by Col. Monico Abang. The rules of engagement is now changed as a result of this carnage not to allow the police in civilian attires to man a checkpoint to preclude any misinterpretation of the motive or mission carried out.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

    Ganito nagugat ang putukan… Ito kasi si Siman ay pinatumba si Engelbert Aquino kasosyo niya sa jueteng ng tumanggi si Aquino na sumosyo sa palaro ni Siman sa Calamba City. Ang sumunod naman ay ang pag-ambush kay Senior Insp. Nestor Sardina Chief of Police ng Sta Maria Laguna, pero hindi siya napuruhan. Tapos ang sinunod naman na nilikida ay ang Operations officer ng Cabuyao City police na si Insp Romeo Criste  na siyang sinasabing hadlang sa operasyon ng jueteng ni Siman. Dahil sa serye ng panga-ambush ay nabuo ang Case Operation Plan: Armado, si Supt Hansel Marantan na deputy regional intelligence chief ng Police regional Office 4-A ng CALABARZON ang naging case officer. Pangunahing target nila sina Vic Siman at Nestor  “Jr Castillo” Pera Banog. Si Banog at limang iba pa ay  napatay sa isang police operations sa brgy Lccheria sa Calamba City noong 2012. Si Supt. Marantan ang team leader ng masagupa ang grupo ni Banog. Dito nagalit ng husto si Siman kay Marantan dahil yung apat sa napatay ay mga kolektor niya ng jueteng. Dito rin nagumpisang makatanggap ng death threats si Marantan… Kaya nga ng makita siguro ni Siman sa checkpoints si Marantan ay agad nila itong pinaputukan. At dahil dito ay niratrat naman sila ng pinagsanib na pulis-militar… Kaya bale unang nagpaputok ang nakasakay sa suv…

    • $40586212

      sa tiningin ko bro tama ka…maniwala pa ako sa iyo kaysa sa findings ng NBI. Kaya people, ito ang basahin niyo.

      • speaksoftlylove

         Ganun? Bakit ayaw pumayag ni Maratrat na magphysical check up o magpatingin sa sugat niya ayun sa report ng PNP na binigay ni Gen. Purisima sa NBI? Sabi ng findings ng PNP shootout at hindi rubout. Magumpugan na lang kaya kayong dalawa ng ulo ninyo, mga pasaway.

      • $40586212

        sus, bakit di magpadala ang gobierno ng court order para suriin ang mga sugat ni Marantan. Ano ba ‘yan, napaka simple ang solution…ang problema ay ang justice system…walang maayos na pamamalakad. Wala naman talagang power si Marantan to refuse kung may court order. Kalokohan.  

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/2AG2ATFJY4VY44U3FEAA4IASYA Pusang Askal

         nagbaril sa sarili si maratrat kaya ayaw niya ng physical exam duon pa lang malalaman mo na merong itinatago.

    • D_BystandeR

      Isipin mo lang na maraming tao na ang pinatay itong si Hansel Marantan. He is a disgrace to the police force. With his hands dripping with blood he should have been grounded long time ago.

    • tagalinis

      Kung ang nakasakay sa SUV ang unang nagpaputok, bakit hindi nila napatay si Marantan? Ganun na lang ba sila katanga at hindi nila napuruhan? Isa pa, kung ikaw ang 
      nakasakay, lalaban ka ba ng alam mong wala kang kalaban-laban habang nasa loob ka ng sasakyan? Maaaring tama ang haka-haka mo, pero dahil sa mahigpit na ang kanilang alitan, inupakan na ni Marantan si Siman kaya ng gumanti si Siman, hindi na niya napuruhan itong si Marantan!

    • VooDoo

      ahhh ganun ba?…

      bakit daw sa paa lang tama ni maratrat?… any idea?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

    kung kinuha sana nilang consultants sina danny mangila, romeo maganto at bart baluyot eh hindi sana nagkaganito.

  • tagalinis

    at ikaw, kilala mo?

  • tagalinis

    at ikaw, kilala mo? PDI, huwag alisin itong tanong ko at nagtatanong lang naman!

    • $40586212

      ah, di ko siya kilala personally, sa news ko lang din siya nakilala…kagaya mo nagtatanong lang din naman.

  • tagalinis

    bakit hindi pumasok itong mga tanong ko kay: justathought1965
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    bakit parang kilalang kilala mo si Marantan…do you know him personally?

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  • gilbs72

    Napansin ko lang sa karamihan ng operasyon ng PNP at AFP na umaasa parati sa paulanan ng bala ang mga “alagad ng batas”. Parang di nagsanay ang mga ito at umaasa na lang sa palakasan ng armas – parang walang kontrol sa sitwasyon.  Kadalasa’y walang matitirang buhay para makapag-imbestiga pa ang awtoridad sa pangyayari o mahabol pa ang ibang kasamahan ng mga suspek. Para sa ating pangkaraniwang tao, nakakatakot ang paraang ito sapagkat maraming pwede madamay – gaya ng bystanders at hostage. Nakapagdududa din na sadyang inuubos upang pagtakpan ang mga hanay nila na may koneksyon sa mga grupo. Nakakatakot na mapunta sa sitwasyon na may masasamang tao at pulis – pero di ka sigurado kung kanino ka mas matatakot.

    • $40586212

      Kailangan kasi linisin ang justice system dito sa Pinas…ito ang napakalaking problema nating mamamayan.  Nakakalungkot.

      Mr. President, please clean our justice system para mapayapa ang ating bansa. 

  • tenyearsafter

    El Presidente pina ambush mga kalaban?…
    abangan imbestigasyon ng Indio…

    Baka naman lutong Master Chef ito….

  • ARIKUTIK

    Ano kamo, “Linisin ang Justice System ?”. Nagbibiro ka ba ! Tanungin mo si Brain flunker Sereno kung papano siya naging CJ. Mismong mga taga SC ay nag boycott kasi …… Hindi malinis ang pag kupo niya sa Trono ng Justice System. Ang kalakaran ngayon ay >>>> wala ng due proccess of law. Sa halip ay >>>> Boy AB system naaaaaaa …..

    • indiots

      paanong walang due process ang pagkahirang kay sereno? dumaan at inirekomenda ng bar council ano pa ang hinahanap mo?

  • 711sense

    One thing that I have not read yet is, did P/S Marantan wore a bullet proof vest? If he did, it maybe the reason why he was not injured anywhere in his body but his left hand and legs. Lots of people are already making so many judgement without waiting for the complete report of the incident. Let’s wait and hopefully, we can get the story straight from an official investigation. We can then make our judgement on who is at fault and what those fault is/are.

    • indiots

      palagay ko wala ng credible na report na lalabas. corrupted na ang crime scene. marami nang ginalaw.

      ayon sa mga naunang nakakuha ng mga larawan walang baril sa tabi ng biktima, pagdating ng soco mayroon na.

      alin sa dalawa yong mga unang nakakuha nagphotoshop na at tinanggal sa scene ng kuha nila ang baril.

  • indiots

    ang daming paiba-ibang picture na inilalabas ang abs sa tv patrol. photoshop lang yan. ang mapapaniwala lang nila ay ang mga taong hindi gumagamit ng computer.

    noon ngang nakaraang taon na nasira ang seawall, sa mga photo na lumabas nag-iinspection ang isang mataas na kawani ng gobyerno, yon pala edited lang. ha ha

  • $40586212

    Naku enough with all these none sense…nakaka-stress na…wala rin tayong magagawa. Let’s wait for the Senate Inquiry and see.  Let’s just do good things for our country, huwag tularan ang mga ito…turuan ng magagandang asal ang mga anak natin kasi sila ang magiging future ng bansa natin. Hope for the best everyone…Manalangin na lang po tayo sa Panginoon. In this country, we will never know the truth. The justice system has failed its people.

  • kalikasanipagtanggol

    Hindi pa nga nag-ubusan na lang sila yung mga inambush at mga inambush para mabawasan naman……..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2DG3R2AAQZDON2KH45T3YC5DOA del pillar

    “OVERKILL” as has/have been observed by majority of those that read/knew about the incident. NOW, can we JUSTICE??? UNTIL NOW THE MASSACRE IN MINDANAO NO CONVICTION HAS/HAVE BEEN ISSUED/JUDGED BY ANY KIND OF COURT IN THIS LAND!! 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2DG3R2AAQZDON2KH45T3YC5DOA del pillar

    YEARS AND YEARS HAVE GONE BY AND NO CLEAR JUDGEMENT/DECISION HAS/HAVE BEEN DONE TO SO MANY ISSUES……..PARANG BULA SA DAGAT NA BIGLANG NAWAWALA PAG DATING SA DALAMPASIGAN????????????//

  • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

    lesson
    not to ride
    with hot people

    saan na yong nakatakas daw
    na sasakyan

  • tukmoldinako

    The buck has to stop somewhere, under command responsibility, the commander in chief absorved everything  whether its successes or failure, therefore he should be well versed in the enforcement of the law so that no passing the buck to anyone.

    Right, the government is employing  diversionary/ delaying tactic to cover issues to pacify crowd until such time that furor diminish, so incident simple become history with no conclusion as to where the investigation on things went.

    Truly , we are only reactive while the news is hot , our system are superficial and mostly things being talked about are forgotten very soonl . So for the PNP, better be alive than dead. lol

  • Guest

    is this a conspiracy between the PNP and Army special forces?



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