Palace body OKd Atimonan operation

‘Jueteng’ operator lone target of ‘Coplan Armado’

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PRESIDENTIAL SEAL One of the bullet-riddled SUVs in the Atimonan shootout bears a sticker of the Office of the President. RAFFY LERMA

CALAMBA, Laguna—The gun battle in Atimonan town, Quezon province, that left 13 people dead on Sunday was the culmination of a three-month police operation approved by the Presidential Anti-Organized Crime Commission (PAOCC) headed by Executive Secretary Paquito Ochoa Jr.

But Ochoa denied there was any mission order from the commission authorizing the police-military operation in Atimonan.

The operation, code-named “Coplan Armado,” had only one target: Victor “Vic” Siman, operator of the numbers racket “jueteng” disguised as government-sanctioned Small Town Lottery (STL) in Laguna and Batangas provinces in southern Luzon.

A ranking PAOCC official confirmed that the intelligence division of the Calabarzon (Cavite, Laguna, Batangas, Rizal, Quezon) police informed the commission about the surveillance on Siman.

The PAOCC official said Supt. Hansel Marantan submitted to the commission a case operation plan (coplan) detailing the supposed involvement of the Siman group in gun-for-hire operations in Calabarzon.

Marantan was the leader of the police team at the joint police-military checkpoint where the alleged shootout happened.

Police claimed Marantan, deputy chief of the Calabarzon police intelligence group, was hit in the hands and foot during the exchange of gunfire with Siman’s group.

PNP Director General Alan Purisima on Wednesday suspended Marantan and the rest of his team for violations of checkpoint rules, including not being in uniform at the time of the alleged clash with Siman’s group.

Collateral damage

A Philippine Daily Inquirer source in the Philippine National Police described the 12 others killed  in the alleged shootout between security forces and Siman’s group as “collateral damage.”

But that does not clear the three policemen and three soldiers killed along with Siman and the others of involvement in jueteng, as at least one of them was well known to be involved in the numbers racket, other Inquirer sources in the PNP said.

On bishop’s list

Inquirer sources from the anti-illegal gambling movement Krusada ng Bayan Laban sa Jueteng led by retired Lingayen-Dagupan Archbishop Oscar Cruz on Wednesday said one of the three slain policemen, Supt. Alfredo Consemino, and Siman appeared in their records of people in southern Luzon involved in jueteng.

A source on Thursday showed the Inquirer a copy of “Coplan Armado” on condition that the source’s identity and organization be withheld.

The operational plan detailed the intelligence report gathered against Siman, who was from this city and identified as one of two leaders of a syndicate involved in illegal gambling, drugs and gunrunning.

The other leader of the syndicate is an elected municipal official in Batangas province. The source asked that the official’s name also be withheld due to the sensitivity of the matter.

“Vic Siman was involved in an extensive illegal drug trade flourishing in Manila and in southern Luzon provinces,” the operational plan said.

Among the 13 men killed on Sunday, only Siman was on the police target list.

“The others were collateral damage,” the source said.

For instance, the families of Paul Quiohilag claimed that he was a real estate and insurance broker doing business with Consemino.

Relatives of Consemino denied the slain police officer was involved in jueteng. They said he was only working with Siman on a contract for a security agency.

Friends of Tirso Lontok Jr., also killed along with Siman’s group, said he was an environmentalist.

The source acknowledged that some of the 13 men could be traveling with Siman on legitimate business, but said: “Would you have time to ask who’s the environmentalist and who’s in the real estate business when the shooting is already going on? That’s foolish.”

“Coplan Armado” was the operational plan against organized crime groups at the regional level in Calabarzon, based on the PNP’s “Coplan Kamagong” at the national level.

The coplan was signed by Marantan, in his capacity as head of the regional Anti-Organized Crime Task Force; Supt. Glenn Dumlao, who headed the Special Concerns Task Group; and regional police director Chief Supt. James Melad.

In an interview with the Inquirer on Tuesday, Marantan said the intelligence report and the operational plan had the approval of his superiors in the Calabarzon police.

“It was signed by me, Melad and Dumlao,” Marantan said.

Senior Supt. Valeriano de Leon, the suspended Quezon police chief, said he never saw the alleged report and operational plan.

De Leon insisted that he had nothing to do with the police-military operation in Atimonan because he was still on vacation when it happened.

“As a matter of fact, I was in Virra Mall in Manila when the incident happened,” he said.

De Leon said he was informed about the alleged shootout by phone, so he left his family in Manila and returned to Quezon.

He said he reported the alleged shootout to Melad, who was participating in a shooting competition at the time.

Authorized in October

The coplan, signed on Oct. 24, 2012, was submitted to the PAOCC, the source said. PAOCC is under the Office of the President.

“This only shows that the operation [in Atimonan, Quezon] was legitimate,” the source said.

Asked about Dumlao’s participation in the operation against Siman, the source said Dumlao was not at the scene in Atimonan. Dumlao was one of the policemen accused in the 2000 murders of Salvador Dacer and the public relations agent’s driver Emmanuel Corbito.

The coplan’s objective is to “neutralize [this] group by means of police operations and massive intelligence gathering and put them [the targets] behind bars.”

The coplan listed 15 “targets,” six of them from Batangas and the rest from Laguna province. Among the targets were a government official and a relative of a ranking police officer.

On the list, the name of Siman, found at the top, and that of Nestor “Jr Castillo” Pera Banog from Tipaz, San Juan, Batangas, were already crossed out.

Banog and five other men were killed in a police operation, also led by Marantan, in Barangay  (village) Lecheria in Calamba City on Nov. 12, 2012. The police reported that it was a shootout.

“In reality, you can’t act goody goody or you will end up six feet in the ground,” the source said, when asked if the Quezon encounter was a rubout as claimed by the families of those killed.

The source said the agents were “monitoring the movement” of Siman’s group as it traveled to Bicol as early as Sunday morning. The alleged shootout happened in the afternoon.

The source maintained that the first shot that hit Marantan was fired by Siman’s group. With reports from Marlon Ramos and Nancy Carvajal in Manila; and Delfin T. Mallari, Inquirer Southern Luzon

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  • ryan andres

    Wow… collateral damage… mas taklesa pa kay kris etong mga pulpulis natin…

    preno muna mga magigiting na pulpulis, may mga pamilya yang niratrat ng isang kasama ninyo, mga bobo!

  • LeoSanMig

    And the plot thickens… ta-da!

  • ryan andres

    tangna yang source nyo Inquirer… si Marantan ba yang nagsasalita?!?!? Puro kahayupan ang sinasabi eh!

    If your source is a high ranking member of the police, that just goes to show how little regard our police force has for human life. Collateral? Happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time? Shoot first, ask questions later? Bullshit.

  • JunPyo123

    Masyado nang makapal ang palaman ng balitang ito. Nauumay na ako.

  • FernandoBusi

    And so it now appears that one side in this Jueteng protection racket went all the way to the palace. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GTVNMZR22PGMS55WQPIJTYB4IY Jaime

    Approved operation or not is not the question.  The question is the way it was done.  Ask yourself,  do you feel safe knowing those cops can stop you anytime and twist any evidence they need to favor their deeds?

    Marantan is a danger to the society. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/AX7A65HBPOATKIEDV77LOLRVUM Colokoy

      What the way it was done? armado ang kalaban, sila ang unang nagpapaputok ng baril.. Psalamat ka may mga pulis pa na katulad ni marantan.. ANG GUSTO MONG MANGYARI MGA PULIS NA NAG CHECKPOINT ANG NAPATAY.. kaya maraming mga criminal kc may mga taong kumakampi sa mga criminal..

      • John_Cruz

        Maski ako rin and unang magpaputok, kasi mukhang NPA ang humaharang, walang uniforme. Malas lang nang mga victima, they were taken by surprise. Yung side ni Lontok, Dept of Agriculture Sec. are going to file a complaint and lawsuit. Also wait for the NBI report. Mysterious ang operation na iyan. What happened to the P30M in the red bag. No more news on the third SUV who go got away.

      • speaksoftlylove

         Sinong nagkukwento sa iyo nyang istorya mo, yong mga buhay na o
        pumkatay hindi ba? Pero yong mga patay wala ka ng marinig na istorya. So, ganun ka ba mahuhusga, isang panig lang? Ilang beses ka ng nakakabasa sa dyaryo ng planted evidence, frame up, set up at kung anoano pa? Ngayon ka lang pinanganak at di mo kilala yang mga kapulisan natin? Masyado kang feeble minded, ang dali mong utuin, colokoy ka nga.

    • batangpaslit

      palitan mo si Col Maratrat para walang dugo sa barilan
      hehehe…

  • superpilipinas

    I don’t believe most of the hearsay story. But I believe the list of Bishop Cruz, if indeed that really came from him. It was already shown to the media before. So it is easy to verify.

    If Ochoa indeed did not approve the operation, then tapos na ang kalahati ng istorya. Dapat nang ikulong si Maranan et al. kasi wala siyang authorization. Absuelto nanaman yung mga pinatay regardless of anything due to technical foul-ups. 

    Kung si Ochoa nag-authorize, mahirap tanggalin yan kasi bata ni PNoy yan. It will be like Puno and Llamas cases. Kasuhan pa rin dapat si Maranan et al for not following checkpoint policies and maybe the rules of engagement also.

    Si presidente ay dapat ninyong pasalamatan. He seriously undermined PNP reform by not prioritizing the erradication of jueteng.

    • FernandoBusi

      All this means is Jueteng goes all the way to Malacanang. 

      • batangpaslit

        hehehe…
        tagal nang ginagawa ‘yan Tsong kahit sa kay Pres Cory ginagawa ‘yan

    • batangpaslit

      pag successful ang operation, OCHOA will trumpet for it
      pag blunder, OCHOA disowns it
      hehehehe…

  • Carlos_Iho

    May arrest warrant ba si Siman?  Kalokohang palusot na naman.  Gagawa ng palusot ang tanga pa.  Bakit mag check point para ma monitor ang alin? May search warrant ba?  Ano ba yang oplan na yan, may basbas ba ng korte o kathang isip lang?  Wala na tayo sa martial law!

    Kung kriminal man yung mga pinatay, kasuhan nyo sana.  Puntahan sa bahay nila at arestuhin.

    Lumaban ba?  Bakit di ba pwedeng lumaban sa di kilalang armadong grupo na hindi naka uniporme?  Katangahan lang talaga.  Karaniwan na to sa mga pulis.  Rub-out at murder yun mga tanga!

    • indiots

      kung utak mo ang paiiralin aabot ng siyam siyam bago masugpo ang mga kriminal na yan. kita mo ang mga kaso ng pdea sa korte? wala sako sako ang ebidensya naabswelto lang…  kaya ok lang yan, on the spot patay. isama na ang mga rapist na nanggahasa na pinatay pa ang ang biktima di ba? tapos isisi sa mga pulis kung bakit talamak ang kremin.

      • Michael Wong

        Dapat mag demand ka na pagalingin ang law enforcement at justice system..para ang mga guilty di nakakalusot..di pwedeng laging shortcut..pinoy style..sino ba gusto mo sisihin bat talamak ang krimen? Gobyerno ang me pinakamalaking responsibilidad dyan..pag ikaw o pamilya nadamay sa mga ganyang operasyon..tingnan ko lang kung di mag bago yang perspektibo mo..

      • Carlos_Iho

        pinilit ba sila na maging pulis?

      • Carlos_Iho

        utak mo na lang ang paiiralin para patay lahat ng masasama..wala ng batas, basta patayan na lang…wag na tayo sumunod sa batas…pero sino ang magsasabi kung sino ang masama?

        yung mga pulis ba na marami rin sa kanila sangkot sa mga krimen at illegal na sindikato?..baguhin na lang natin ang batas para legal na pwedeng patayin kung sino man sa palagay mo ay gumawa ng mabigat na krimen…o burahin na lang ang batas…di na natin kailangan ito…

        alam naman ng lahat na malaking dahilan kung bakit talamak ang krimen ay dahil sa mga pulis din na hindi epektibo sa kanilang trabaho..tapos sisisihin pa ng pulis ang batas? para saan pa may pulis kung walang batas? sila na lang ang batas?

        pdea? di ba sangkot din sila sa sindikato at sila sila rin ang nagka enkwentro?  

      • indiots

        kung galit ang mga pulis sa mga magnanakaw kaya pinapatay nila ang ang mga kapwa magnanakaw at least nababawasan ang mga magnanakaw.

        kung pulis na ang batas at least sila ay mga awtoridad kaysa ang may hawak na ng batas ay ang mga halang ang kaluluwa.

        danas namin na pag may isang untouchable criminal sa inyong area matatakot ka ng maglalabas o tumingin man lang sa mata ng di mo kilala dahil segurado patay ka.

        subukan mo lang bumangga ng isang gun runner….

      • Carlos_Iho

        bakit may untouchable na mga kriminal?  dahil hindi epektibo ang mga pulis…at karamihan sa mga ‘to hawak din ng pulis…mga walanghiyang pulis ang problema…may mga matitino pa naman..di lang makapalag sa mga kriminal na pulis…

        karamihan ng gun runner kilala din yan ng mga pulis at hawak din nila…ang kriminal na pulis hindi awtoridad, kriminal na…

        saan ang daang matuwid na pinagmamalaki ni BS Aquino?  puro salita lang…ang hinahabol lang nya yung mga kalaban nya sa pulitika…di rin nya kaya mamuno…

        kung epektibo ang gobyerno at pulis, walang mga ganito ng mangyayari!

  • wishfull thinking

    Medyo malabo ito kwento na ito, mahirap paniwalaan. “The source said the agents were “monitoring the movement” of Siman’s group as it traveled to Bicol as early as Sunday morning.”…..ganun ba? kaya pala may collateral damage! Eh kung alam niyo pala na may kasamang mga civilian…bakit di ninyo pinahinto na sa Bicol pa lang? At saka bakit hindi ninyo kilala ang mga kasama sa sasakyan? Yan ba ang matinong “surveillance”?

    • Guest

      It’s good that the DOJ
      and NBI will look into motives of the supposed “victims” . We should
      all know their relationship with Cong Chiipeco and Secreytary Alcala

  • http://enria.org/ scconcern

    Okey ang operation kaya lang masyadong masama, madumi at dalosdalos ang pagkagawa.
    Ang operasyon ay pinoy style….patayin di kunin buhay at pagsalitaiin. ang mga namumuno ay puro may bahid na dumi sa pangalang nila. Dapat kumuha ng bata, bago, idealist at malinis.
    Wala tayong magawa 3rd world pa tayo….sa survival stage pa..di pa umabot sa living stage tulad ng developed nation (tahimik na pamumuhay).

    • batangpaslit

      Bro, may patayan ba na hindi madugo?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

    there’s never a question about the legitimacy of the operation because there’s always the presumption of regularity in the performance of your job, you’re cops, you’re supposed to do your sworn duties to the best of your abilities. the question herein lies on how you have conducted it.

    and this new damage control twist clearly came from the people behind this big blunder.

    • batangpaslit

      brilliant analysis

  • kulittwit

    The headline is contradicted by the second paragraph saying that there was no mission order for the atimonan operation.

    What was authorized by the palace was the 3-month PAOCC surviellance as mentioned in the first paragraph.

    Sensationalized headline to sell the paper. This is concrete proof inquirer is a tabloid broadsheet.

    • Datingkailan

      maaring totoo yun pro pag nasa actual operation ka na anything can possibly happened lalo na kung pare-parehong me armas.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PM6JHCFR2KT2AURMWRDUXBNLQY Darwin

      If only surveillance was authorized, then putting up the checkpoint exceeded the parameters of the order. It became irregular.

  • indiots

    tsk tsk tsk sabit ba ang office of the president? palagay ko dahil si Pnoy nagsalita na duda s’ya sa alleged encounter. dapat neutral muna s’ya. sa halip pahalagahan ang tapang ng mga crimebusters, ayon mga comments na nakaka demoralized.

    • batangpaslit

      kaya disowned ni OCHOA dahil nagparinig ang Presidente. pero kung pabor ang Presidente ipag yabang ni OCHOA na sia ang nagbigay ng “clearance”
      hehehe…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/QGMOULQQMQCU7C2HSXHC7OTCTM Chrisfox

    it was already happen..just leave it to the investigator..truth will prevails…
    legitimate or not,Siman was already paid..

  • parengtony

    If Marantan indeed had the goods on Vic Siman’s criminal activities, it was very easy to book him for the multiple and repeated violations that Maratnan is now using as a basis for the “operation”.
    In other words there were many other simple ways to throw him into jail without risking him being killed in a so called shootout. Al Capone was finally put in jail for tax evasion.

    Long story short, it is obvious that the objective was to kill him…and to hit many birds with one stone.

    PS
    This “news article” reminds me of the media conference on corruption. Hay… buhay Pinoy.

    • $20722540

      agree 150%

    • batangpaslit

      dami kasing cases kahit na santambak ang edidensiya mo at naka pila ang mga witnesses, pero dismissed pa rin ang kaso
      maliban dian, mabalikan ka pa ng accused.
      in the underworld, you don’t get respect if you are urong-sulong in your decision.
      kung banatan, banatan na nang husto.

      • parengtony

        What you are saying is that law enforcers are entitled to execute people arbitrarily?

      • batangpaslit

        not exactly “execute people arbitrarily”
        just giving the Jueteng Lord his own dose of medicine.
        ilan na ba ang pinapatay na pulis ng Jueteng Lord?
        besides, enkuentro ang nangyari. malas lang ni Jueteng Lord and his coterie of police bodyguards, Col Maratrat is quicker to draw his gun

  • joerizal

    Environmentalist? Real-estate business? Eh bakit sangkaterbang baril ang nakuha sa mga SUV nila? Oo nga merong procedural at administrative violations sila Marantan at kailangan silang managot doon, pero buhay nila ang nakasalalay dun sa operasyon. Sana tingnan din sa autopsy kung may close-range na tama ang mga namatay kasi sign yun ng murder/execution imbes na shootout.

    • $20722540

      hindi kaya planted yong mga baril na yon?

    • batangpaslit

      Joe, pag ganung klaseng enkuentro iseguro mo na patay talaga. otherwise, mabalikan ka pa

  • ceejay2420

    I hate to say that Ms. Cinco and the Inquirer editorial board, is letting themselves to be used by the perpetrators of this crime to gain public sympathy prior to conclusion of the independent  investigation ordered by the President. Marantan, who had been notoriously tied with a couple of questionable killings, is making the claim what his group did had the stamp of approval of the agency directly under the President. However, it was not categorically stated in this article whether the operation allegedly prepared and submitted had been approved; or if it was indeed approved, it was carried out in a manner in complete compliance with the approved operational plan.

    There is more in this case that meets the eye. I am for the complete eradication of every single crime syndicate reigning in our society. But I am for the government doing this with the one being eliminated not to be  replaced with another of the same kind. Many suspects that those who  carried the execution were working for the competing syndicate both of which operate with support of moonlighting members of police and military.I would rather wait for the NBI’s report before any making any judgement.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PM6JHCFR2KT2AURMWRDUXBNLQY Darwin

      Inquirer seems to have bet big on mar Roxas becoming president, that’s why. Which he won’t. Unless necropolitics is again resorted to like a timely death.

  • koolkid_inthehouse

    The PNP/AFP are covering up again.   If the police is doing it properly there should be no shoot out and the suspects apprehended.  Is this the kind of law in the Philippines?  Sounds like we’re going backward to Martial Law style. 
    Is this justice?  Dead can’t speak anymore.  This also Ampatuan style of justice kill them all whoever they are we know there’s no witnesses. This is not good intel but dumb stupid PNP.

  • Datingkailan

    unahan na lang cguro sa pag bunot ng baril…..ganun pa man, I agree with you about the firearms recovered inside the SUV. Unless they’re heading to another operations ibig sabihin they’re on active duty na nasabotahe ng grupo ni Marantan….that’s another story.

    • batangpaslit

      tama ka….dapat ang sumali sa ganyang operasyon ay handang pumatay at handang mamatay din.
      aba, kung billion pesos ba naman ang nakatataya, eh, may mga taong handang papatay at mamatay.
      ‘yon nga lang kung sino ang unang naka kalabit ng gatilyo, siya ang buhay

  • Jim De Garman

    nobody wants to take the burden of responsibilities it is usual finger pointing attitude, but it’s clearly acknowledge the presence of sticker from the office of the president.

    12 persons were collateral damage to take Siman’s life.. it is goin clearer, those 12 persons are just employee to Siman or just escort to protect the siman’s business interest and life.

    • batangpaslit

      diba bodyguard nga sila….regular active soldiers and police officers ang nadale, hindi retired or discharged from the police force or military service

  • http://www.facebook.com/ace.esguerra.33 Ace Esguerra

    Marantan is a necessary Ev1l that needs to survive… We need the likes of Marantan to head oplans all over the philippines to weed out ev1l.. Marantan should only be repremanded not s@cked… Kudos to marantan for a job well done…

    • sopingac

      I would probably agree if he did it not because he was ordered to get rid of a rival jueteng operator.

    • $20722540

      if 13 people were killed in an alleged legitimate operation…is it a good job?

    • batangpaslit

      sangayon ako sa sinabi mo….hindi naman gagalaw si Maratnan kung walang “clearance”

  • brutsador

    Hindi mawawala yung Jueteng kase mga Gambling Lords malapit kay Uncle Peping , Anak ng Jueteng kung seryoso yung goberyno madali gamitan lang Ng BIR at AMLAC tulad ng ginawa nila kay Corona, Selective ata pag sugpo sa corruption . Ito ba ang daan matuwid? Kawawang Sec. Roxas wala syang magagawa nilaglag na nga sya ni Uncle Peping noong election ngayon naman itong Jueteng. BIR kasohan nyo na itong mga Gambling Lords meron naman listahan yung DILG. Yung Jueteng Lord Ng Quezon laging na sa Resorts World milyon milyon kung mag sugal saan galing yung pera di sa Jueteng. Kaya hindi ito Priority ni Pnoy kase takot sya siguro kay Uncle Peping. Pork Barrel at Jueteng dyan nabubuhay mga Corrupt na Politicians dyan nila binabawi yung gastos sa election , Kung wala ng Pork Barrel at Jueteng wala ng tatakbo sa election. Sabi ni Pnoy kung walang corrupt walang mahirap kaso puro corrupt pa din kaya dami pa din mahirap, Mga KKK ang sisira kay Pnoy. Only in the Philippines.

    • mynnyx

      ikaw ba naman ang uncle peping hawak sa bayag si pinoy……….hahahahahahaha

  • sopingac

    There could be something worse than this to come out in a few days. Jueteng is still flourishing and it would not be a surprise if some people around Pnoy are involved.

    It is quite obvious how a few weeks ago, a popular daily came out with a headline purportedly saying Mike and Iggy Arroyo and former Sec. Puno are involved are involved in jueteng but totally ignoring the fact that they are now out of power and the former first gentleman’s brother has long been devoured by maggots.

    The motive was very clear. Blame again the ex-President and her cohorts for the very same sins they had committed and for what is actually still happening right now.

  • batangsulpok

    Maraming depekto ang oplan dahil hindi alam ni Chief Supt. de Leon na Provincial Chief ng Quezon, na naka-sibilyan ang ibang nasa checkpoint kaya kung ikaw ang sakay ng SUV magdadalawang isip kung titigil o hindi kasi maaaring mga NPA ito o mga fake na Pulis at bakit kasama ang army special forces?  Isa pa, nagkaroon ba ng briefing bago isagawa ang operation lalo na sa contingent ng army o sinabihan lang ang opisyal na pag nagputukan ay orderan ang mga sundalo na ratratin ng husto ang mga sasakyan?

    • batangpaslit

      baka hindi talaga pinaalam kay CS de Leon to insure there is no leakage of info?

  • sopingac

    I would probably agree if he did it not because he was ordered to get rid of a rival jueteng operator.

  • wakeupbayan

    Shootout, rubout, 13 dead,,,,, well, another case yet to be included soon into the archive,,,, as usual.  Its fun in the Philippines, this is our Philippine justice system.  Yes,,,,, I agree,, too early yet to blame anyone.  But with the temperament, attitude and gun culture in this country,,, Sabi nga,, unahan na lang otherwise you end down 6 feet under.  “JUETENG”,,, wow a very very lucrative illegal business with absolutely good income and well organized. We have not yet touch the tip of the iceberg.

    • P_noy_Obamax

       Tourists, visit Atimonan, Quezon, but beware of check points! Coz, it’s more gun in the Philippines!

  • GaryFil

    The source acknowledged that some of the 13 men could be traveling with
    Siman on legitimate business, but said: “Would you have time to ask
    who’s the environmentalist and who’s in the real estate business when
    the shooting is already going on? That’s foolish.” 

    Ano yun, ratratin mo na lang, then ask later???  I think this is also foolish!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      They could have just asked all the 13 men to get out of the cars with their hands up then singled out Siman and killed him.  The reason why they eliminated all was to silence them.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RDDM5UQ45HLPPKM66KYEBCMTCE dave

    I smell something fishy. With the presence of the names of Dumlao and Melad. Former PAOCTF, and last week’s speech of Lacson? hmmm…plus the Aquino plan to make Lacson adviser for corruption? Is not that close to Kuratong Baleleng and Dacer-Corbito cases?While I agree that criminals should pay for their crime, however, I also hate that word “colateral damage”.

  • wilms1963

    kriminal….laban sa kriminal…..bwa hahahahahaha

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    Collateral Damage?  That’s why it’s not advisable to be hanging around with shady characters.

  • $20722540

    hours after the incident lacson was defending the encounter…yon pala si dumlao alam yon operation which obviously sinabi niya kay lacson.  the issue now, isn’t about whether the operation was legitimate or not…the issue now is, there were 13 people killed in the alleged shootout.  if surveillance were being done in the morning as claimed, were they not able to identify the people with siman throughout the day?  they have been watching him for 3 months they know his whereabouts?  you don’t strike at will or anytime you want to?  how credible marantan is in submitting a supposed coplan?  was the coplan designed to serve his own interest, since he is supposed to have some connection with stl operation in laguna?  abanagn pa ang mga susunod na kabanata…everyday there is a new bit of news and its beginning to be exciting.  

  • mynnyx

    nakakatakot na eh……..tignan mo naman yong mga officer na involved……….ala nang pakialam mga utak pulbura na eh……………ratratin na lahat…………puede naman sigurong kausapin yong mga officer na kasama ni siman kung involved talaga sa gun for hire ang kaillangan lang eh matibay na ebidensya………..kaso pagsuspect ka pa lang eh hanggang maari patayin ka na para ala ng problema……kaya itong si marantan…..eh nagiging adik na sa patayan dapat siguro ibalik sa training na hanggang maari eh huwag bumaril ng bumaril………

    • D_BystandeR

      Itong si Marantan ang dami ng beses na na-involved ‘yan sa patayan. In November 2005, Marantan, along with two other police officers were involved in “summary execution” of
      three suspected car thieves in Pasig City. And again on November 12, 2012 in Barangay 
      (Village) Lecheria in Calamba City he killed Nestor “Jr. Castillo” Pera Banog with five other
      men in a “shootout.” And in this Atimonan case, he wanted to appear “with clean hands,” with 
      gunshots  to his hand and feet to justify the “massacre” of the victims which included 3 police  and 3 military officers claiming Marantan’s group was shot first and therefore the return fire killing everything “including cockroaches” valid. In one suburban place in Illinois, that strategy was used by a “smart husband” who murdered his wife and three children, showing a self-inflicted wound in his knee claiming his “bipolar” wife shot him first then all their three children and the “last” finishing shot to her head to commit suicide did not work out according to his plan. Because of highly advanced investigative techniques after a hearing in court he was finally found guilty of killing his entire family.  Two months ago he was sentenced by the court to “multiple” lifetime sentences. If there’s a way Marantan’s wounds can be verified and checked if self-inflicted, the victims can still have a fighting chance they can still find justice if wounds are found self-inflicted to justify the “massacre.” But this will be dependent upon what kind of 
      investigation they want to conduct: if they want to find out for the truth “leaving no stone unturned,” or if they want to make a “cover-up” especially with the  reported P100M missing in 
      the report of the encounter.

  • sopingac

    Impossibleng walang mataas na opisyal ang involved sa jeuteng ngayon dahil wala ang pasugal na ito kung walang basabas mula sa itaas.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5STEU22AD7YRHQSB6RE56ZDSYA J

    Crime does not pay.
    Dead man tell no tales.
    The closed mouth catches no flies.

    Ochoa might have followed Pontius Pilate (from Mathew 27:24) – When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!”

  • rolandtr

    The whole scenario pointed to this kind of story: an authorized operation that went out of control. This was the reason for the 24 hours silence by the CPNP, the initial backing by Valte, and the robust force at the scene. Now they must account this whole mess to the public in a transparent manner otherwise PNoy will be viewed from here on as just the same as GMA. And in the process save the election for the administration. Weird but this is a good portent for the country. We have a government who will not mess around with people’s sentiments. They see that the whole mess begs for so many basic questions to be answered. And the administration is now answering these questions no matter who gets burned in the process. I am so sure the same group who authorized this whole operation is now very busy validating the basic assumptions or facts given to justify the operation. We have a maturing country if this kind of self examination by those who hold the levers of our security aparatus continue this path.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

    may inside information pala kaya naman  sing bilis ng kidlat kung maipag-tanggol ni lacson si marantan ay dahil involved din pala si glenn,

    siguradong magkaka-ubusan ng sabon sa tindahan ni aling puring kapag nagsipag-hugasan na ng kamay ang mga nasasangkot sa bulilyasong ito.

  • SLAMMMMM

    “This only shows that the operation [in Atimonan, Quezon] was legitimate,” the source said.
    Say, what?  If anything this brings the stink to the doorstep of Malacanang.  This mission order does not necessarily mean nothing wrong happened in Atimonan.  In fact, this places Malacanang in hot water… The NBI has not ruled that the Atimonan bloodbath was a shootout … ano ba ito?  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FPVUYCML46QCAJM5N2O4GNID24 tony

    it never ceases to amaze me how the PNP always seems to be “…monitoring the movements…” or “…the subject were under surveillance…” and yet the end result is always the death of every single suspect … if one was monitoring the actions of a suspect, the one doing the monitoring has all the advantages in the world and should be able to at least apprehend without killing the suspect! but then again this is the Philippines we are talking about where the PNP is headed by graduates of PMA who in turn are supposed to produce PROFESSIONAL SOLDIERS – read that soldiers NOT POLICE!

    • cowboys2

      Meaning ng PNP and PMA!

      PNP: Palagi Nang Patay
      PMA: Palaging May Ambush

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7IGQYIPU6AFTVRJ742XT2X44M4 Jef

    The coplan, signed on Oct. 24, 2012, was submitted to the PAOCC, the source said. PAOCC is under the Office of the President.. In short this operation is legitimate built up case or intelligence gathering the only lapses they way they conduct a check point lalo na itong lugar na ito infested for NPA and they look also as NPA….your instinct. in future operation you must bring CCTV para malaman agad kung sino ang nagkamali  

  • SLAMMMMM

    I don’t share your optimism, sadly.  All we have to do is recall how this government whitewashed the investigation of the Quirino Grandstand massacre of Chinese tourists in 2010. When the dust settled, everybody got scot-free.  Nobody was responsible for the bungling of the negotiations and the rescue effort.  Even President Aquino got away with it… the public let him…  So this country is in deeper s h i t than we can imagine.  All the usual suspects in this type of operation are back … Glenn Dumlao? C’mon … But maybe this is God working in mysterious ways.  Justice was waylaid in the Dacer Corbito double murder investigation.  Maybe fate has found another way to make the usual suspects pay.

  • SLAMMMMM

    To the poster who said this government is not going to mess around with people’s sentiments and the people are ready for self-examination, etc, etc’

    I don’t share your optimism, sadly.  All we have to do is recall how this government whitewashed the investigation of the Quirino Grandstand massacre of Chinese tourists in 2010. When the dust settled, everybody got scot-free.  Nobody was responsible for the bungling of the negotiations and the rescue effort.  Even President Aquino got away with it… the public let him…  So this country is in deeper crap than we can imagine.  All the usual suspects in this type of operation are back … Glenn Dumlao? C’mon … But maybe this is God working in mysterious ways.  Justice was waylaid in the Dacer Corbito double murder investigation.  Maybe fate has found another way to make the usual suspects pay.

  • noyab

    Glen Dumlao, kasama, e tiyak salvage yan, kaya pala pinagtatangol ni Ping ang operation, kasama pala mga hachet men niya

  • SLAMMMMM

    To the guy who said that Ms Cinco and the editorial board of the Inquirer are letting themselves be used by the criminals’ supporters who are courting public sympathy… I think we might miss the bigger picture here:  REMEMBER, the Kuratong Baleleng rubout and all the other rubouts after that never really lessened crime in the country.  The summary killings did not strike fear in the hearts of criminals.  Only the justice system’s ability to prosecute, based on solid evidence, would deter crime…. not rubouts.  Criminals are disposable entities.  You kill them, they can easily be replaced by a new batch of thugs so the vicious cycle goes on.  

  • jdelacruz13

    no honor among thieves …..

  • rouelcalzita

    The operation in Atimonan was long and planned very well by Mr. Marantan, considering that they were former good friends and later Marantan got personal grudge against Siman. Maybe just Marantan asking high payoff from Siman that prompted Siman to file a case against Marantan in the Office of Ombudsman.
    Consemino association with Siman do the same fate with Marantan.

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    Naku po. Ito na marahil ang pinakamalaking dagok sa ating mahal na pangulo.

    Noong pinalagpas niya si Rico Puno, pinagbigyan at pinagkatiwalaan pa sya ng bayan.

    Ngayong nasangkot muli ang mga taong nakapaligid sa pangulo, pati May 2013 apektado.

  • Your_King

    Does the Aquino Administration have any clue what they are doing and what is happening in the country or are they all busy at the shooting range playing with their firearms? Everything coming out of this tragic incident smells fishy and full of crookedness. And now everyone is in a state of confusion making excuses and blaming others. What say you President Aquino? The authorities and the high-ranking officials under your Administration are more corrupt than ever. Either that or they suck at their jobs which is a clear reflection of the Philippines leadership from the Executive branch.

    • Barak_O

      the whole operation was delegated to marantan

      would you like to take his place kouy king?

      • Your_King

        Excuses…blaming…and pointing the fingers. That’s what the Administration has been doing. Whoever is delegating and choosing who to delegate to is doing a poor job delegating and choosing.

  • batangpaslit

    masaya ito…nagbitaw ng salita si Presidente tapos na disown ni OCHOA
    hehehe

  • EdgarEdgar

    Jueting is big money and big money needs big protectors going all the way to the top. All eyes are now on Noynoy.

  • http://ourleftfoot.blogspot.com/ Tristanism

    Headlined skewed.

  • farmerpo

    ‘ Banog and five other men were killed in a police operation, also led by
    Marantan, in Barangay  (village) Lecheria in Calamba City on Nov. 12,
    2012. The police reported that it was a shootout.’

    Hmmm, is there a pattern of behavior emerging here? Seems Marantan takes no live prisoners.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/GTVNMZR22PGMS55WQPIJTYB4IY Jaime

      I guess nobody else see it that way that the street will be dangerous when he is around. 

  • $37644997

    In other words the Palace body have allowed a shooting spree,I hope I’m getting it right.

    • JK1000

      Idiot !  Are you that dumb ?  Or just really stupid.

      • $37644997

        you are worst than me,I can’t even spell your face,you don’t belong here.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OJWHBJLMWPTRUOZMN6JOMHLO2A Banana Na

    ooh…may sticker pa ng OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT ang sasakyan, ang sakay daw ng sasakyan ay mga criminals…di delikado din ang ibang government officials maski may sticker ka ng OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT ay pwede kang barilin ng mga operatives ng police at military kasi nga may INFORMER na nag-tips na may dadaan na criminals sa lugar na yan…

    • okabato

       Na may dalang pulang maleta na hindi na makita ngayon kung nasaan at anong laman.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OJWHBJLMWPTRUOZMN6JOMHLO2A Banana Na

        yes, sigurado may dala ang mga sakay sa sasakyan ng malaking amount ng money, kung ito ba ang sinasabi ng security firm cashier na 250,000 pesos but siguradong mas malaki pa ang worth ng money ang dala nila kaya daming napatay sa barilan kuno….sila-sila mga government officials at mga illegals na gawain ng ibang tao, di sila nagkasndo kaya eto, inambused…

  • w4d

    PNOY was right all along that this was a suspicious operation and correct and commendable in ordering a probe. Now, we will see how credible he is that another good friend of his is being named on the “hot seat” of the investigation. Hugas kamay ulit?

  • bakitkailangan

      Ito ang napakagandang halimbawa sa administrasyon ng ating pangulo,
    kung ito ay sa panahon ni “Duwende” Arroyo, kahit na kuko ng balita ay
    hindi natin malalaman. Malaman man natin, wala ring mangyayari sa
    dahilang ang pamilya niya mismo is directly involve.

    Panay ang
    batikos natin sa administrasyon ni Aquino subalit hindi natin nakikita
    ang kabuktutan ng mga nakaraang administrasyon, simula kay Ramos
    hanggang kay ptang “Duwende”.

    Sana ipagpatuloy ni Aquino ang paglilinis sa mga kagaguhan ng nakaraang mga administrasyon at pati ng mga galamay ng kasamaan na ngayo’y nasa senado at kongreso.

    Malipol sana ng ating pangulo ang mga alyados ng mga baboy sa bansang ito.

    Huwag na po tayong magbulaglagan pa, alam naman nating lahat, na ang mga namumuno sa ating militar ang siyang pasimuno sa ano mang kaguluhan at kababuyan na nangyayari dito sa ating bansa. Itanong na lang natin sa ibang nasyon kung sino ang dating Heneral na naging pinakamayaman sa buong bansang Pilipinas, siguro alam niyo na kung sino…. 

    Kung walang proteksiyon ng militar at lahat ng sangay nito, maglalakas loob kaya na gumawa ng katiwalian ang mga mamamayang Pilipino? kahit na sino man sa sangay ng gobyerno maliban sa militar ay hindi maglalakas ng loob sa dahilang wala silang armas at puwersa na katulad ng ating mga sangay sa militar. Kahit na sino ay puwedeng mawala kung nanaisin ng kung sino mang Ponsiyo Pilato na nasa Militar. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

      asan ka ba? mukhang mali ang napasukan mo dre dahil napakalayo sa ating paksa ang pinagsasa-sabi mo

  • kalikasanipagtanggol

    “In reality, you can’t act goody goody or you will end up six feet in
    the ground,” the source said, when asked if the Quezon encounter was a
    rubout as claimed by the families of those killed. 

    Well, it means no matter what kind of training PNP and AFP have done locally and abroad, they’re still amateur when it comes to conducting road blocks or checkpoints. YOU DO NOT APPROACH the subject vehicle you will have them get off the car on their own with their hands up in the air ONE BY ONE……..BOPOL!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7NHDUDLC2F7G6BRTDLESS3LL6Y tino

    Hindi shootout ito, its a clear ambushed! hindi lumaban yung mga namatay specially they were well armed too with highpower rifles, bakit yong oic lang ang nasugatan! superficial wounds at saka paa at kamay lang tinamaan, langhiya nga naman oo, tumaas tuloy bp ko,mmmmm, pinatay lahat para walang witness simple as that..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HFDGBGI6RTVYTYN3X6OP2DVX4A droids

    halatang halata na ang sinasabi ng source ng inquirer kuno…ay puro cover up ang istorya para masabing legitimate ang encounter…ito namang si bishop cruz..sos, patay na iyong taong sinasangkot niyo, hindi na maidepensa ang sarili….dapat noon mo pa pinatimbog iyan sa batas kung totoo…ito talagang inquirer…accessory to the crime by fooling the people.

  • Rovingmoron

    The report said the plan to secure Vic Siman, who was at the top of the list, was signed by Marantan, Dumlao and Melad.  Dumlao happens to be connected to PAOCC. The question now is: Did Dumlao discuss the plan with his Palace superiors, in which Executive Ochoa is the chair of the PAOCC? If Ochoa did not know about it so is the reason why he washed his hands concerning the alleged Atimonan shootout. Again, the public might be forced to conclude that the Atimonan plan was again rushed up. But for what reason why only three police officials signed the plan, the public has to know. At this writing, it could not be known immediately if the plan was either approved by Ochoa in principle or not? By nodding his head, when it was presented and discussed to him by Dumlao, maybe Ochoa just nodded his head which was interpreted as a likely sign of approval on his part. However, there was no written note that the PAOCC chair approved of it. In which case, Ochoa may have the option to deny should the plan backfires, which was what happened in Atimonan because the police operatives, along with the Special Forces, had violated some rules of setting up a proper check point. Purisima said they’re suspended, while the investigation is in progress, because they’re not in uniform. Besides, there was no marked police vehicle at the time the check point was set up.

  • Cobra

    kaya pala depensa kaagad si Lacson na legit daw itong operation,kasama pala yong bata niyang si dumlao,involved din ito sa kuratong baleleng at sa dacer-corbito case.Rub out talaga ito so obvious ang mo ng mga kasangkot.marantan-dumlao,kng titingnan yong mga shooter na kasama sigurado may mga kasamahan din sa mga nkaraang operation.Perang malaki issue diyan.follow the money.

  • Rovingmoron

    On the sideline, I’d like to share some tidbits on why criminals should never trust a police officer who is handsome like Marantan, because they never know that that person is a butcher. That person can be compared to a wolf in a sheep’s clothing.  Which reminds me of why some people are afraid of policemen whose faces only mother can love. But it hadn’t occur to them that these police officers are much more lenient than those whose looks are angelic faces in the PNP because they are the killers of criminals. Next time, don’t trust handsome police officers because these people are dangerous.

    • ben311

      nabakla ka pa!

  • legislex

    There is no conflict in the reports that the there was an operation against Siman and the rubout made by Marantan at a time when they were bringing money with them.  There is no doubt that Siman was involved in illegal gambling operation.  By reason thereof, the police has been building up a case against him.  Just like any other operation against gambling, the police had a hard time pinning down Siman because he guises his operation under the STL operation.  Some of the collections are reported to the PCSO while a substantial portion thereof are not thereby giving him a hefty profit. Marantan decides to do a rubout to end his illegal career. Marantan decided to do it at a time when Siman was bringing with him an estimated amount of between P300M to P500M. In order to make sure that no one could tell the true intention of Marantan, all of Siman’s companions were killed.  Marantan did not only end Siman’s illegal activities, he also earned a lot from it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VSVAD3S4PWFLPD7GOWBLI6BLRI Paulo Adams

    Ask the PNPA alumni who this shady and corrupt Marantan is vis-a-vis the clean and controversy free record of the late Col. Alfredo Consemino, who continued to live simply in an apartment with his family and driving a beat up car.   

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NXV3F6YUQWDOA4HPYOFN5F2N3U Danyel

    ang tapang ni Marantan, binaril ang sarili , yun nga lang paa at kamay lang…pero masakit din yun…..style mo bulok he he he……

  • http://twitter.com/whipnsaddle Bastonero

    Kung di sa Coplan na yan di lulutang ang pangalan ni Dumlao, sabit na naman, bakit nakabalik sa serbisyo, ano yan secret re-instatement? Paki liwanag nga mga igan….

  • http://www.pulisnapogi.blogspot.com/ Pulis Na Pogi

    kailan napasok sa policy ng di na icoplan at patayin ang mga magjujueteng?

  • OleSapra aka ARGUS

    PAOCC OKd ATIMONAN OPN?

    ANA: “Sino ba ang big boss ng PAOCC, si Sen Ping o si ExeSec Kitoy?”

    LISA: “Kaduda-duda nga ang lumalabas na resulta ng imbestigasyon, porke, hawig-na-hawig ang Quezon RUBOUT kumpara sa Kuratong Baleleng case noong early 90s sa Commonwealt Ave, ‘di ba?”

    CION: “Ay, sinabi mo. Hindi lingid sa publiko kung sino ang author noon sa Commonwealth RUBOUT na umano’y merong US$5 million ang NABAWI mula sa Kuratong. Halos parehong halaga rin DAW ang nabawi ngayon mula naman sa Atimonan opn, really?” 

  • Vikkala Velo

    That is one way to stop JUETENG . . . terninate the roots including the protectors.  One day, some big time politicians will be included.

    • http://twitter.com/whipnsaddle Bastonero

      So kailangan pala magingat yung mamang taga Lubao, Pampanga and family politicians…

  • ben311

    sige magbulahan kayo at maraming t_nga maniniwala sa inyo kasama na media.

  • wawa2172

    The way it is , the Atimonan killings was well planned that it has to involved others to be killed so the angle of gun for hire by Siman could be justified. However since mayroon nadaling matitinong tao na nasa grupo the 12 who died with Siman are now considered collateral damage. Marantan is simply a blood thirsty that anybody in his list of suspects should be killed. Dumlao participation in the rubout has a trademark of Dacer and Corbito murder case. If Maratnan has the evidence against Siman I guess madali lang itong mapakulong without collateral damage. Three months of surveillance ended in a hastily put up check point to ambush the suspect. Ambush dahil di man lang naka uniform ang mga police at maaring mag pag kamalang NPA dahil walang signs ang check point. Maari nating sabihin na rubout talaga dahil lahat na hinawakan ni Marantan ay napapatay at dahil nasa opisina siya nang PAOCC, lahat nang patayan na kasama si Marantan ay may basbas nang palasyo? Say mo Ochoa. I do believe in the crusade of Father Oscar Cruz to get rid of jueteng but I have  not heard  anything from him about the issue on collateral damage. Maaring may alam siya sa 12 na napatay or just simply ok lang yun kung kasama ka nang gambling lord. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JW3SV7ZIGLJCJMECO2IUN7GCCU smiley

    COPaLAN takaga. si siman ang target, colateral damage ang labas. di bini refy ang tip? tanga!

  • 1Fz20

    we’re still living the times of Al Capone, John Dillinger, Jessie James but this time they are our official law enforcers! paano tayo aasenso nyan? tapos ganoon din sa senado – manipulation of tax-payers money for political gain…its more fun talaga…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BGEXLIHIZFFENAK67D436QPP74 PBA

    malacanang pala ang sangkop sa massacre

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BGEXLIHIZFFENAK67D436QPP74 PBA

    kalat na kalat sa atimonan na binaril ni marantan ang sarili nya

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QA264KB7TICWJ5LQG5ZXN6CM2Y ruel

      tingin ko nga..naniniwala ako sa sinabi mo. KUNYARI MAY BARILAN yon pala…INAMBUSH TALAGA>>>>

  • Vertumnus

    Let the finger pointing begin! So in order to catch one man, they had to kill 13 other to do it?  What happened to the alleged millions of pisos and gold that was carried by the ambushed group? Maybe that was the target of the whole operation instead of just arresting Supt. Alfredo Consemino, and Siman. How convenient how they ended up dead in a hail of bullets!

    • speaksoftlylove

      Walang pinagiba sa Kuratong Baleleng yan. Naubos yong grupo pero yong bilyon na kinulembat ng Kuratong Baleleng sa mga bankong hinoldap nila ayon pinakinabangan nila alam niyo na. Rated talaga yan si Dumlao, maasahan pag pera ang paguusapan, tiyak tigok yong target. At may bago pang kasamang halang ang kaluluwa. Asan na si Michael Ray Aquino, hindi pa ba nareinstate at napromoted?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/74DX67S5U6H557SPUXS5XZ6QJI Alisto Juan

        Yap, ganoon estilo KB pero kinuha pa nila yan kay “Tadtarin” at ng mga naunang opisyal sa PNP, kasama na ang dating Senador, na meron sila mga tauhan na gumagawa ng krimen, pag gusto nila ng promotion, papatayin nila yun kanilang mga tauhan. Sobra pa sa movie ang plot. Mga PNP opisyal ang gumawa ng plano, ipatrabaho nila sa mga bata tapos pag nagonsehan, salvage tapos ipromote pa yung opisyal na nagplano. Di alam ng publiko na sila ang may gawa sa krimen. . 

        Sa tingin ko nga nagtatawanan yung mga PNP na involved sa krimen, nabawasan yung hatian at masosolo na nila ang operation, maging General pa sila. . Ganoon sa Pinas. . Alis na tayo dito kay ang PNP ang Bosing sa Krimen. . 

  • Jason Cruz

    OCHOA obvious ka na ah.     Ang dikit sa iyo ni Puno at Bartolome, sigurado ako ikaw ang nag propromote kay Marantan.         OBVIOUS AT BUKING  grabe na ito.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YDIC7AUBOT2GBPNFUYB5VRUEYY Jackson

    Murder… It’s more fun in the Philippines!

  • regie

    there goes justice for the relatives of those killed. totally muddle up the issue. glenn dumlao is back  and at again. i thought i would hear the last of him after that DACER CORBITO THING i wonder how he was able to get back to the service considering his deep involvement into the dacer corbito  …anyway to the relatives my condolence may you find justice if not here, in the other world….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Y4F4FLKXO3AFFE7HIOA4OCIYOI Nats

    The headline is misleading. The PAOCC order seems to be a general approval to “neutralize [this] group by means of police operations and massive intelligence gathering and put them [the targets] behind bars.” There is no specific order to setup a checkpoint in Atimonan.

    It is more catchy and sensational but Ms. Cinco and the editors should have been more careful and honest.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/Y4F4FLKXO3AFFE7HIOA4OCIYOI Nats

      To think this is the main headline! Imagine, people passing through newspaper stands will see this bold headline “Palace OKd Atimonan Operation”! when in fact, it did not!

  • Mattino2011

    Dapat pala isama si PNOY sa imbestigation

  • VeryDisgusted2

    Don’t fool the readers. PDI should fire this writer for writing like a publicist of Marantan. Is she also on the take, or PDI on tha take? Marantan has a large sum of loot.

    The orderly position and the close windows of the two SUVs indicated a treacherous and cold-blooded ambush.

    If I were Roxas, I will not suspend Marantan only but put him in stockade until NBI investigation is over to prevent this murderer kill prospective witnesses or escape like the men of Lacson before.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/74DX67S5U6H557SPUXS5XZ6QJI Alisto Juan

    Marantan, Dumlao, Melad, Ang mga pangalan na yan ay rated XXX sa military operation. Delikado pag nagsasama yan. Patay kang bata ka. . ang motto n’yan ” dead man tell no tales” Kaya pala kumampi agad si Sen. Lacson kasi mga tauhan at estilo n’ya yan. . Yan mga clasing tao hindi na dapat sa puesto dahil sila ang batas. . May bosing yan dahil ganoon umakto. .

    Doon yan idestino sa Kalayaan Island. . 

    • doncleo

       Involved si Dumlao sa Dacer Corbito murder…mga bata ito ni Lacson kaya kinampihan agad….kung may surveillance kay Siman bakit niratrat ito kung kelan maraming kasama tapos sasabihin nila “Sorry ha, collateral damage na lang kayo”.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    Whoaaa…INQ.nagkakalat kayo.

  • regd

    What the heck is that sticker from the Office of the President doing on the dead guys car?

    • Jason Cruz

      Its the Philippine way,  do you want an NBI, PNP Office of the President commemorative 
      plates then you’re big shot in the country.   So many corrupt here in the country.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

      Vic Siman must be a wellknown person(having obtained a PNPA plate number and a Palace commemorative sticker)…which is difficult to reconcile the claim of Maratrat that the case been shadowed for a certain period of time….really a conflicting claim.

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

       Anybody can get that, or even print that.  Technically, only the current president should use the seal in any way. Malacanang has its own logo and seal, as do PSG, so one can say it is just a piece of sticky paper designed to instill fear to those who will recognize it as a sign reflected power.

      Was in the mansion this Christmastime (before the 26th), the guards manning the ‘mansion’ were selling it.  funny.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GRVAJUYIO6PRIAPQHNE6MYKNEQ Lando

    atimonan massacre alam ng malacanang??? malalim ito

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/74DX67S5U6H557SPUXS5XZ6QJI Alisto Juan

    Ang Bosing sa mga Kriminal may koneksyon sa Malacanang. . Siguro nag fund raising para sa eleksyon. . 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GYYFBINDMTZHM6TDHPB667452M agustin

    this issue will just fade out soon,the reason is the palace itself, there is no real leader on us.

  • droccu

    Mis leading news. Submitting an OPLAN proposal does not mean approval of the same.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    Calling NBI..pls publish all polygraph test results of all scalawags involved,especially of that Maratrat..ASAP.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZZK525UYR7QVVXNHVEKXLPUY34 Ed

    Would the NBI investigation include examination of Marantan’s bullet wounds? May powder burns ba (that’s what you get if you shoot yourself, to simulate being hit by an enemy)? Come to think of it, sa Valle Verde operation, an officer was also shot in the thigh – the lone casualty on the government side, who lived to tell the tale of being hit while still inside his police vehicle. Did the investigators at that time check his vehicle?

  • jebgo23

    Ginugulo naman nila usapan eh. Ang usapan bakit may checkpoint, at bakit nagkabarilan. Wala akong paki sa surve-surveilance. Pagmamatyag lang yun. Yung sa Atimonan, rubout talaga. Kung sino man ang source, malamang kampi sa kalabang gambling lord.
     “The source acknowledged that some of the 13 men could be traveling with Siman on legitimate business, but said: “Would you have time to ask who’s the environmentalist and who’s in the real estate business when the shooting is already going on? That’s foolish.” — Dapat dito sa source na ito wala sa serbisyo, wala syang paki-alam kung sino madamay, pasensyahan na lang. Sana maisip nya, isa sa mga dapat nyang gawin ay magprotekta ng tao.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3UAABFPUE5ZKBXOAGLWL6POGWU joel genese

      Mukhang nasa palasyo ang protector ni Marantan na protector din ng jueteng. Suspetsa ko pa nga si Enrile din ay kasali din kasi gumawa siya ng eksena sa pamamagitan ng pagbibigay ng pera sa senado para makalikha ng ingay baka sakaling matabunan ang isyu sa Atimonan massacre!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_N6XZFGVL5QA4BIYZC4QQMT5WUM sher

       i agree, this writer is acting as a neutralizer or deodorant to make it look like okay lang yung nangyari, anong magagawa mo? overkill, ginamit lang sila ni Marantan, one of the Siman’s filed a case against him, why did you not write about that? anong klaseng reporter ba ito, grade 3? sino ba yang source mo? kapatid ni Marantan?

  • pedronimo

    MARICAR CINCO SHOULD GET A GRADE OF 5 IN ENGLISH VOCABULARY.

    What “exchange” of fire is this reporter talking about? The term “exchange” of fire suggests na “Nagbarilan” yung 2 grupo. Bullshit lie, Hindi po nagbarilan kundi PINAGBA-BARIL ang mga victims, Maricar Cinco talagang grade mo sa English vocabulary ay “5”.

    Either Tanga ka o sinadya mong gamitan ang salitang “exchange” of fire ng bilogin mo ang ulo ng mga Inquirer readers.

    If in deed there was an exchange of fire, how come the bullet holes were all penetrated from the outside of the car? and the dead were all hit on the head? Sharpshooters ba lahat ang mga nag-bantay ng checkpoint?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QA264KB7TICWJ5LQG5ZXN6CM2Y ruel

      hahahah…totoo…aminin na ng gobyerno ni PNOY this is a RUBOUT…not a shootout!..Haltang halata na po…

  • barry p

    Based from other materials you can read, it seems the Vic Siman dude, contrary to what his relatives are saying, was indeed involved in Jueteng.  

    On the other hand…

    Serious issues confront Marantang’s group like the ambush-like way they conducted the alleged checkpoint with no police marking and all.  And why everybody was killed.

    Regarding the supposed case operation plan or coplan,  mere submission does not constitute (or equate) to legitimacy or authorization.

    Submitting a report is one thing, approval of the same is another.  You cannot tell yourself you are free to immediately act on your own report without waiting for the higher ups to approve or disapprove your report.

    BUT then again – on the part of PAOCC – granting that they have not approved of anything ….the earlier almost similar event wherein 5 people allegedly involved in jueteng were all killed by the same Marantang dude SHOULD HAVE RANG ALARM BELLS. 

    And doon palang they should have inquired on what Marantang group was doing.

    In this regard may pagkukulang dito si Ochoa as head of the PAOCC.

    Lesson here for Pnoy – Stuff in relation to crime and law enforcement cannot be delegated to someone who is busy with something else.  IT MUST BE AN UNDIVIDED FULL-TIME JOB OF AN EXPERT.  Ochoa heading PAOCC is not sound.

    Regardless of the background of the slain people, it must not take away from whatever criminal liability Marantang’s group might have.  

    .

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3UAABFPUE5ZKBXOAGLWL6POGWU joel genese

      Sabi nga nila, pag may usok may apoy! But then, ngayon lang tayo nakabalita na ang jueteng lord ay pinagbabaril ng mga pulis. Ang mga jueteng lord ay kina kaibigan lahat, hangat maari hangang presidente. Wala siyang mapapala kung magyabang siya o makipagbarilan sa otoridad.

    • barry p

      As expected…

      Yung mga TERMITES….sakayan na!

      Mga anay talaga.

  • sebastian abao

    Another grave fumble from the TEMPS in the Palace. Palace approved operation like this should be properly monitored and guided. Rivalries and jealousies among PNP officials dealing on protection racket for illegal activities is a reality. This Presidential Rubout Gang should be put behind jail for life!!! Palace TEMPS, own up to your mistakes and leave the government service.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/2I5Z6CAZKOTTPZEHG4LFXYUFFA dudes

      Yan ang problema sa pilipinas pag sino man ang nakaupo sa pwesto ang daming pinagbigyan kasi may utang na loob kung sino sino na ang appointed nagka doble doble ngayun may kontrobersya nag tuturoan na kung sino ang dapat managut……

  • Guest

     Kapalpakan sa Atimonan incident? Roxas
    at purisima lang ang dapat na sinisisi diyan! Wala nang iba!

     

    • el_latigo

      Dude, have you ever heard the words or phrase command responsibility? 

  • carlorocci

    Kung iba ang makababasa ng balita at hindi mo iintindihin ang mga sitwasyon aakalain mo na tama yun headline ng isang balita. Pero pagnabasa mo yun kabuuan ng balita at uunawain mo hindi pala iyun ang tamang headline. Ito yun tinatawag na “Sensationalize Journalism”. 

  • Guest

    Kung October pa
    humingi ng approval fr Paocc, e di si Mar Roxas alam na nya yan. As DILG chief,
    Mar is a member of Paocc. 

  • carlcid

    Case of the pot calling the kettle black?

  • http://twitter.com/Olibo2 Olibo

    Jueteng is evil.

  • Guest

    Sinsiraan ni Mar Roxas sila Dumlao at Manantan kasi mga bataan ni Ping Lacson eto. Si Ping kasi ang nararapat at napupusuan ni Pnoy sa DILG pero umepal kasi si Mar kaya yun

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_N6XZFGVL5QA4BIYZC4QQMT5WUM sher

    the latest is that the legs of Lontok were almost crushed, sobrang dami ng balang tumama, he got off to tell the armed checkpoint not to shoot and tried to run when shot at. anong checkpoint? did you see Marantan’s tv interview? vomit. pwedeng pang Oscars, the jerk even smiled and tried to cry covering his eyes. susme. 13 yung patay hello, nagawa pa niyang ngumiti, puro imbento ang scenario niya, if you watch CSI, you will laugh at his script. I think he should hire a forensic expert to write a script for him next time so it will have the semblance of truth, kahit 2 % man lang. parang pinapalabas nito, kasi jueteng gang kayo, di baleng mamatay kayo. and who is to say that what they tell us is true?

  • Guest

    Matindi itong atimonan incident na ito, sa halip na ang DILG at PNP ang pag-initan dahil sa kapalpakan ng check-point ay si Jojo Ochoa na agad eh hindi nga nga active ang PAOCC ngayon eh!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/X2U4X42BZTUHPWMP2UKFP5QWMU LucasPacascas

    Wala ng punpuntahan ito. Kung anuano na ang lumalabas, halatang pinagtatakpan na yung anggulong AMBUSH! Damage control na ang ginagawa ng mga bwakanang inang ito. Sige NBI, kunin nyo yung sinasabing documento ng OPLAN AMADO. Isapubliko nyo para magkaalaman. Naniniwala pa din ako na si Col. Marantan ang may pakana ng lahat ng yan. Gumawa ng kung ano-anung Intel report na sinakyan naman ng mga kamote niyang opisyal. 
    That incident is plain and simple RUBOUT! 

  • Booyang_Young

    Kung aprubado ng PAOCC ang operation sa Atimonan dapat may resolusyon yan na pirmado ng board! Sa pangyayaring ito meron ba?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    Palace must be careful with some INQ writers….

  • bogli_anakdami

    hay naku… walang mangyayari jan…ang barkada ni ampatuan eh ‘sang katerba ang itinumba, hanggang ngayon eh walang kaso…

    niloloko lang kayo ng flip gub’ment… bwi hi hi hi pwi!

    • tarikan

      Walang kaso sila Ampatuan? Ano yung hearing nila sa korte, tsekahan? Di sana si Ateeteewhy Fortun matagal nang umayaw, walang kaso walang pera syang makuha.

  • Garo Ungaro

    Even if there was the blessing of the POACC…The action taken by Col Marantan Groups was beyond comprehension. They know fully well as per their intel. who was inside the the ill fated SUV. The proper procedure was not followed and the rule of engagement was breached. even if this is a harden criminal Then procedure should be followed. There was an intent to kill. no matter who was inside the SUV ” dead men tell no tales” The fire power is just to much (200) rounds or more mostly from M16 meaning the army has the more kill than short guns…

    The army was used in the incident…The culpability of Col Marantan…and the rest of the higher officials present are very strong.? There was an intent to kill base on the result (13) dead…supposedly only was the criminal..(Vic Siman) as per their intel. should be arrested. The big question is what was the real motive of Col Marantan?…since there’s a lot ways he can gets guy alive…without using too much fire power…It was really killing zone.? That is Murder?…Now, we don’t know what will happen again maybe he can get aways with this again? and again this just another lousy day for the POLICE. ?….

    • tarikan

      “Dead men tell no tales”.  Yung “dead men tell no tails” eh yung mga patay na walang buntot, haha!

    • RomyLitz

      Col. Marantan wants all of them dead otherwise, he will be implicated one way or the other.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3CF3PXUVL4BSYTRU2R362LFUPE SolidBasketball

    massacre

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3CF3PXUVL4BSYTRU2R362LFUPE SolidBasketball

    maguindanao massacre, atimonan massacre….. what’s next ?

  • Guest

    Pakana lang ng Balay group ang pagbanggit sa pangalan ni Ochoa sa
    Atimonan incident! Saan ba nabibilang si Roxas na dapat siyang sinisisi diyan?
    Saan ba nabibilang si Ochoa?

  • concern_netizen

    The body of a a 9 year-old girl was dug up in Cavite yesterday.  The poor girl was abducted, raped, and killed by four criminals in Cavite last December.  Some of the criminals are relatives of the victim and even served as pall bearers during the funeral.  This is a crime far worse than the one in India where a teenage girl was abducted and raped and later died in a hospital in Singapore yet we barely know anything or read about it anywhere.  What is appalling is that the crime in India was widely condemned not only among Indians but all over the world… even from Filipinos but the gruesome crime in Cavite only gained a whimper, perhaps only appearing as footnote for more important news… like the debates on who among Kris, Aiai and Vice was responsible for the highest grossing film in history or the shootout among erring enforcers apparently due to jueteng turf wars.

    It is easy to dismiss “depressing” news because it may put the country in a bad light.  But what is more evident is how media contributes to the people’s apathy towards news that really matter.  Sure, celebrity news sells that is why much space is given to trivial issues that has no value in building our society.  But my hope is Media remind themselves of their mandate as tool for people to seek redress and to some extent help provide justice to those who yearned for it.  After all, media don’t need reminding because they know their responsibilities very well.  What they need is conviction.

    • nanyo_nanyo

      masama nito…pati media nagiging tool ng mga competing groups
      ayan ang problema nila, lahat gusto mabango sa palasyo..nakalimutan na ang tunay na role nila as a fourth estate in a democracy…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LHTWUXKL5GQ66NGG73Z6EIMYZI june

       we are already a nation desensitized by the daily occurence of gruesome crimes

    • jolly_baby

       since you brought that news up, why didnt you just provide any links… mas priority mo pa ata me masabi lang pero parehas ka din.

      • concern_netizen

        I would love to provide the link but moderators somehow flag down messages with links.

    • Dredd01

      Sana ibalik na lang Death Penalty for Drug traffickers, and other heinous crimes at dapat walang nationality na pinipili gaya sa ibang bansa. Sa tingin ko saka lang mapipigil ang mga ‘to.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/AU63OD3IM47UAQS5XNO6V5PCCM andz

        Tama..

    • manongcastro

      This was very shocking. My wife cried while watching the news as we couldn’t imagine the horror that the child went thru in that 1 week of hell. She was tied up, raped repeatedly by 4 criminals, used as sex slave for 1 week and this led to her death. And afterwards, her body thrown in the garbage.

      If I were the government, i would also focus on what happened with this child. We need tougher laws to protect the helpless.

      What happened to this child was so shocking that I assumed that this news should have made the headlines!

      We are very mad this time. There’s something wrong with our society! It appears that our society are already being indifferent about what happened to her!

      We need to voice out our disgust for what happened and petition the government for tougher laws and protection of minors.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AFMPJUN2MD252PZUKVRYCTCKB4 Tadyak

    Tamalang lang yan, dalawa ang namumuno sa palasyo, ang grupo ng dimonyo at grupo ng anghel. Walang matatrabaho ang grupo ng Anghel kung susunod sila sa proseso ng mga hinayupak na dimonyong ito. Kaya nag alaABB na. Ang tanong, gusto ba natin ng malinis na pamayanan? Pwes, alisin ang mga sagabal sa pagunlad. Ganun lang yun, wala ng gray areas. linis kung linis. Ubusin na ang mga hayup na yan!  

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

      grupo ng dimonyo at grupo ng anghel? Di kaya puro dimonyo lang yan na nag-aagawan sa pwesto? Devils can be 2-facet, you know……

  • basyong

    bakit ba napasama diyan yung mga kuratong baleleng boy na si glenn dumlao? isang tao ba eto o iba.ganda naman ng naging takbo ng buhay ng pusakal na eto.tumakbo sa tate para magtago o pinatakbo ni pingky? ngayon promoted pa ang baleleng na eto na dapat kasama na sa hukay noong mga pinatepok ni lacson.

  • Guest

    Ang  atimonan incident ay resulta ng
    pagiging gahaman ni Roxas sa puwesto! Matapos ang pangyayaring ito, saan naman
    kaya siya lilipat?

  • Chris P Pnono

    murders.rapes.rubout.landcrabing.more fun in the.phil.anak ng jueting naman..proud to be  a pinoy…ako hindi..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HBX5ADASRZU4SKUFDCRCFDMS44 el capitan

      sir wala neto sa ibang lugar ano?

  • Guest

    Naglipana na ang mga bayaran ni Carandang aty Lacierda sa mga blogs at comments page. Bakit kailanganb gibain si Ochoa para maligtas ang pagkakasabit ng LP sa Atimonan?

    • speaksoftlylove

      Sino ba talaga ang may utak sa Atimonan massacre, si Paquito Ochoa o si Mar Roxas? One is the Crime Czar and the other is the DILG secretary who also happens to oversee the PNP. This the result of PNoy’s “management style.” Too many cooks spoil the Jueteng Broth. And, we will just be contended with counting the dead on account of their “warfare and jueteng business acumen.”

  • Guest

    Kailan ba tatanggapin ni Mar na ayaw ni Pnoy sa kanya? Si Ochoa tahimik na gingiba pa nya. Si almendras ginawan ng pwesto sa Malacanang at di si Mar. Kapal talag ng mukha!

  • Guest

    Saan ba galing yung source ng inquirer? Paocc laguna di ba? E mga protector ng jueteng yun na hawak ni Proceso Alcala at Chipeco

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PM6JHCFR2KT2AURMWRDUXBNLQY Darwin

    Interesting to read how the noytard comgroup are now creatively trying to do damage control on the comments page. Keep it up. You can do it!!

  • speaksoftlylove

    This issue will be a lot of fun simply because the yellowmongrels will be fighting among themselves. We will be happy spectators between the balay and samar power hungry groups fighting and destroying each other.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KZEBAUGBBXOSZBPR5HUZGZXV5U andy bonifacio

    The source said , the source said, the source said, ano ito coulumn ni Cristy Fermin? Isa pa, police superintendent pwede mong i declare na collateral damage? Tama yata si Secretary Mar,  , there is something mentally wrong with this marantan 

  • Guest

    Pls tell Mar Roxas
    ayaw ni Pnoy sa kanya. Di nakakatulong na sisiraan pa nya si Ochoa para lang
    maging RS sya.

  • josefe38

    Bakit ganito ka gulo at daming inconcistencies ang lumabas galing Malacanang, dahil dalawang grupo na nagpapatakbo ng jueteng sa bansa na puro hawak ng Malacang ang involve. Sa kaka balanse na mapagbigyan ang bawat grupo, tuloy lumalabas ang “tuwad na daan”.

  • OhStrewth

    That explains it a bit.

  • Fulpol

    they killed their own… that was what happened…

    suspicion will be lurking PNP and APF after this incident.. watch your back brother Mistahs..

    a dangerous game indeed…

  • Fulpol

    Roxas gain?

    Ochoa’s loss?

  • Fulpol

    pinatay nila ang kapwa nilang polis at sundalo… yun ang nangyari…

    dangerous game…

  • brutsador

    Pork Barrel + Jueteng = Corrupt Politicians.

    • RomyLitz

      Because PNP stands for Polis Nangunutong Palagi and AFP stands for “All Fxcking Policemen”

  • Mananandata69

    in short, the others are innocent victims. So dapat managot ang mga pulis na involve sa shootout.
    But still confusing, Let God do the vengeance. May bad karma din yan. Everything has an end.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HBX5ADASRZU4SKUFDCRCFDMS44 el capitan

       sir kawawa naman yong ibang pulis na sumusunod lang sa kanilang mga opesyal, wlang ka alam alam na ganon ang mangyayari na sumusunod lang sa kanilang tungkulin

  • Fulpol

    this incident destroys the tie that binds:
    1. BS Aquino III men, Ochoa and Roxas
    2. PNP and AFP people (they killed their own)

  • Fulpol

    look how precise the “intelligence” gathering of police..

    the result: they killed their own….

    they are like the Ampatuan who massacred the journalists because they traveled with Mangudadatu..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FMILZVJMPLRYOGFXL6PPNEVS24 Mike Arroyo

    Gunggong na dahilan ito, “Would you have time to ask who’s the environmentalist and who’s in the
    real estate business when the shooting is already going on? That’s
    foolish.”

    Ang tagal niyo ng minamanmanan o minomonitor ang dapat niyong hulihin o tirahin. Pinag-aralan niyo na kung sino at halos kilala niyo na sa itsura. Tapos, ganyan ang dahilan niyo? “Walang ititira, kahit hindi natin target ay banatan!” na ang mentality niyo! Tapos, panay sa ulo pa ang tama? My golly! Sige, palusot pa kayo mga de potah!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HBX5ADASRZU4SKUFDCRCFDMS44 el capitan

       sir mag tataka ka kung pura paa ang tama nila…eh nasa loob ng sasakyan

  • Magsasaka

     “It was signed by me, Melad and Dumlao,” Marantan said. – magkakasama pala ang mga batikang mamamatay tao na nasa likod ng uniporme ng pulis

  • Kellysec

    We citizens of the Republic should watch our back with policemen. We really don’t know how bad they are and what I knew, almost all of them are having this kind of shady background.

    • RomyLitz

      Dont you what PNP stands for? It stands for “Police Nangungutong  Palagi”. Can you name at least three honest policeman in your city or town? Try to figure out and you will be frustrated.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HUE7BZXUJ7I5AFIBEPSIBONAHA Alfred A

    Hahaha no wonder, Avegail right-away said it was a clean operation/check point.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MLD4OKCRPD4PLQOEWMYBRELWG4 Cola

    The intelligence report may be correct, but, the execution was not done intelligently.  It seems the word intelligence do fit the Police.  Anyway, the whole issue is the manner of execution, the choice of the checkpoint, the setting up of the check point, etc.  From the looks of how it was executed, it was really intended from the beginning that everyone should be killed so there will be no witnesses.  Remember the Kuratong Baleleng rubout on the flyover of Commonwealth Avenue and the Maguindanao Massacre?  There are stark similarities.  Everyone was killed.  There were several non-combatants.  In the Maguindanao Massacre, the non-combatants were women and the media, in the Commonwealth Avenue rubout, the combatants were youthful kids and a female who were soon to be discovered as having first been arrested in Paranaque.  In the Atimonan “alleged” encounter, the non-combatants were civilians one of whom is an environmentalist, etc.  The other similarity, those killed were practically helpless assuming there is an encounter because they were all inside the vehicles, and were cramped inside; so, how could they fire their guns.  In the Maguindanao and Commonwealth massacre and rubout, there were no bullets exiting from the inside of the vehicles.  I am inclined to believe that there are no bullets exiting from the Monteros in the Atimonan “alleged” shootout!  Worst similarity between the two Police operations, after the incident, everybody was trying to grab credits for the VERY GOOD results of the operations and alleged Killers and Robbers for the Kuratong and Organized crimes and Hired guns for the Atimonan “alleged” shootout.  Now, when the flaws in the operations have been brought to light, all those trying to grab credits are either trying to say, I was not there, it was approved by Malacanang, etc.  Also, the best Police reason, there was intelligence gathering and there was a tip-off from an informer.  Police are not required to reveal the Police assets who allegedly gave them the tip-off.  In the Police operations, there was money involved – Kuratong baleleng – the dollars linked to Lacson et. al., and in the Atimonan – Jueteng and turf linked to the Police and Siman.

    Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury in the SOCIAL NETWORKING, I submit there is nothing new here.

    Now, enter the Politicians and Malacanang and DOJ.  They say, this will be THOROUGHLY investigated and there will be no sacred cows.  In the Kuratong Baleleng, what happened, not much.  The Generals involved who sought credit have never been sued – Jewel Canson, Romeo Acop and Panfilo Lacson – they were the potential contenders for the PNP Chief at that time. Lacson is now a Senator and Acop a Congressman.  What will happen to the Atimonan Police personnel involved, well, we do not know.  Let us hope, the tide has changed and there will be serious attention to this.

    At least, the Maguindanao Massacre trial is moving although at a VERY SLOW PACE.

    Let us keep watch and give our comments to keep the NBI, DOJ and Malacanang on its toes and keep their promise of THOROUGH investigation and NO SACRED COWS.

    • koolkid_inthehouse

      You are correct in your analysis.  These are the PNP/AFP modus ops, NO SEARCH WARRANT & NO WARRANT OF ARREST.

      PNP & military and the President is turning as back to the dark days of Martial and Lacson’s era as PNP chief. 

      Ninoy Aquino was murdered in midday with lots of witnesses but only the bottom rank people got the ax, nobody from the top who ordered the killing.

      In the Philippines nobody that’s influential was arrested except Estrada which nothing more that a vacation.  Arroyo still in hospital.  The Maguindanao massacre the suspects were arrested but justice is as slow a a turtle in reverse.  The witnesses will die soon.

      Here we are again with all other but massacres and massacres. Shoot oust after shoot outs without justice. 

      Django Sotto is right to bear arms against his cyber enemies.  Maybe we should challenge Sotto to a duel in the game of Warcraft.

      We ordinary people should also armed ourselves against police shoot outs.

    • RomyLitz

      The forensics simply have only to say or established the fact that there were no bullets fired from inside or within the SUVs, then the rubout issue is finished at the speed of light.

  • arao_liwanag

    Yan ang ginagawa ng panahon ni Marcos. Yan din pala ang patakaran ni Aquino: The are they LAW, THE COURT and EXECUTIONER  Wala ng trial at wala ng presumption of innocence. In short, goodbye due proccess. 

    Nagmamangmangan pa. sila pala ang nagplano.

  • mamamia

    I would love these people who are running drugs and gambling not have due process patayin agad bawas gastos sa bulsa ng lipunan but collateral damage was to high tsk oh well this is Philippines, kill or be killed ika nga. katakot na sa pinas.

    • RomyLitz

      What if some or all the “government” shooters who ambushed the three or four SUVs will be implicated as “silent” members if the 13 are forced to sing a song in the investigation ?? If you are one of them and holding a high position in the military are you not going to “silence those 13″  or commit suicide?

      • Guest

        The fact is PAOCCC did
        not approve the project. Why because a lot of LP were involved with Siman
        notably Chipeco and Proceso Alcala. Sino commong link nila? Soi Mar Roxas

    • Guest

      Bagay si Mar Roxas na
      contrabida sa telenovela. Ang asawa nyang si Korina e bruhilda ang itsura.
      Mukhang matapobre pareho

  • gerp

    if there really is a coplan which was authorized since oct 2012… the people in this operation should or must have a general thumbs up rule…”no collateral damage”… in the first place, “operation group” should set up properly their check point or road blocks… of course there should be an element of surprise to the passersby…but not making them in suspiscion or doubts that this checkpoint was illegaly installed…because operation group were not wearing official uniforms…how they could not be suspected as a threat to motorist? they are not in uniform and it happened the passersby has valuable things in possession (legal or illegal)… c’mon PNP/Military… please uphold the law properly…your ranks and people should take another course to implement law according to the law… yes the operation was legal…but killing the people that are not part of the crime is not legal….if they saw the Mr. Siman has other companion…they should abort the mission and let them go…pambihira naman!!!

    • RomyLitz

      Geniuses are orphaned when the lawmen are themselves lawless and unethical.

  • koolkid_inthehouse

    It effective sales pitch but confuses the readers.  No simple straight forward report.

  • martial_law_baby

    Obviously, this is a spin of Marantan and sadly the Inquirer was used. Nagkabigayan ba dito sa reporter? Banner headline pa man din. This report is confusing kasi if you will really digest it. The headline does not jive with the other story today wherein the head of the agency cited denies this report. Even yung content confusing dun sa title. If there was a plan submitted, it does not necessarily mean na may ok na agad iyon, get it? So, nagta trabaho ba talaga ang editor ng Inquirer? If there is denial from the head of the agency and Inquirer was informed about it, why use the title of the news article? Dapat may disclaimer agad. Some people kasi just read headlines and worst they make conclusions and opinions from this. Medyo may improvement na ang Pinas ngayon. Sana Inquirer kasama kayo sa pagbabago.

  • RomyLitz

    The collateral damage can easily be avoided if the coplan planned to place two ten wheeler trucks or APCs on each direction of the road placing the three or four SUVs unable to move in any direction and no single shot will be fired .The long stalemeate, say 24 to 72 hours, could make the 13 passengers hungry and thirsty. They will be left with no option but to surrender and the  untouched evidences can easily be retrieved if any. Then, the bonus, the live witnesses will willingly sing a song instead of converting them as”dead” 13 witnesses.

    • msbabes

      easier said than done! :-)

    • msbabes

      easier said than done! :-)

  • nanyo_nanyo

    coplan oplan noplan carplan lecheplan.., sa dami ng issues na inilalabas ng mga competing groups nagka leche-leche na, nakialam pa si panot, eto naman si inquirer pinapatulan pa
    hay naku, onli nda pilipins

  • Pluma Mana

    palace disowned the operation because it appeared more of a rubout than a shootout… if it was vice versa, sure they would have taken the credit…

  • Tonypogi

    ““This only shows that the operation [in Atimonan, Quezon] was legitimate,” the source said”

    Puro diversionary alibis ang pahayag. Kung tutoong legitimate ang operation, bakit hindi inaresto ang mga suspects? Bakit kailangang humantong sa patayan? Kung tutoong lahat ang mga sinasabi niyo, ang dugo ng mga namatay ay nasa mga kamay ni retired archbishop Oscar Cruz dahil sa kanyang masugid na paghahangad na matigil ang mga jueteng ng wala naman siyang iminumungkahing kapalit na palipas-oras ng mga tao. ibig ba niya ay ibigay sa simbahan ang mga taya nito?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3CKTN4Y7PNDL33JQJLHP2RFJKA Piola Pascuall

       sino ngayon ang may sala, yung arsobispo, dahil walang pamalit sa BISYO at pampalipas oras? Buwaaahahahhaha, galing ng lohika mo? basahin mo nga uli ang post mo?

    • FernandoBusi

      sounds like you want to protect the dirty people in the palace. In the first place what is a guy with a bad record like maratrat doing working directly for the palace. 

  • Tonypogi

    To the Inquirer:

    Please filter your facts. Stop publishing everybody’s comments because the issues are getting muddled. It is apparent in the statements of the people you interviewed that they were expressing opinions, suppositions and presumptions. When published, most of them are only mud being thrown in the air to keep the public uncertain and confused as to what really happened.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LHTWUXKL5GQ66NGG73Z6EIMYZI june

    this supposed approval of the atimonan operation by the paocc is a damged control measure of the bright boys / girls in malacanang if only to justify the premature announcment that the “rub-out” is a legitimate operation.  this is really the handiwork of the student council in malacanang

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5STEU22AD7YRHQSB6RE56ZDSYA J

    Yung presidential seal marami ang naglalagay sa glass shield ng mga sasakyan na halos hindi na makita kung sino ang nasa loob. Pakiramdam ko panakot sa kung kahit sino makakita. 

    Samantala marami ding sasakyan na may mga commemorative plates na nakalagay PNPA, NBI, MAYOR, COUNCILLOR, LAWYER, PSCG, etc na yung iba meron nito parang pinaglalandakan at pinagyayabang. Maabala lang sila ng konte meron yung sumisigaw o bumubusina ng malakas na kung akala mo pag-aari ang kalsada. Yung nakita ko kahit coding na pero may PNP commemorative plate bubusinahan lang yung pulis at ok na may saludo pa. Hindi ba abuso yan?Maganda din sana na makalikom ng pondo ang mga sangay ng govt na ito pero hindi maiwasan yung meron mayari ng sasakyan na nagiiba ang pagkatao dahil sa nagkaroon ng commemorative plate lang.

    • dodong1

      that’s clearly an abuse of power..so sad kasi marami talaga ang abusado sa ating bansa..bata pa ako nakikita ko na, akala ko magbabago pero kasama na yata sa kulturang pinoy ang mga nangyayari sa araw araw kaya ang bansa lugmok parin sa kasamaan at ISANG THIRD WORLD COUNTRY PA RIN..HABANG YUNG MGA THIRD WORLD COUNTRY NOON GAYA NG SINGAPORE AY ASENSO NA!!!

  • caloyski65

    ma absuwelto man sila o hindi pero ang sigurado lang eh they will all BURN IN HELL……garantisado yan!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LHTWUXKL5GQ66NGG73Z6EIMYZI june

    the biggest mystery in this issue is how come that this supt marantan is still in active service – sans any administrative sanction – despite being involved in a number of supposed encounters / shootout that resulted in several fatalities.

  • msbabes

    these politicians are too weak to admit their responsibility!!! good or bad they must admit it if they knew about it! please grow up and be responsible!!!

  • MNLFoodcritic

    Wow! A massacre authorized by Malacanang. And Marantan is now Pnoy’s hitman as Palparan was Gloria’s.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BAPZTEPTRM4JTU6YFSIKOUDA7I shallabhe Escupolo

    Pinoy tlaga utak manok…..antayin muna ang imbestigasyon result ng NBI..dak2 lang ng dak2.

  • tiger222

    You guys are INCREDIBLE!!!! Your newspaper headline says ” Palace Body Okd Atimonan operation. But your story says Ochoa denies this. So which is which? So what is the basis for the headlines? What you guys print is nothing but garbage just to sell newspapers. And you owners and managers are supposed to be well educated and come from “good families”. You should be ashamed of yourselves!!

    • FernandoBusi

      Alangan namang sasabihin ni Ochoa yes I approved this. Let the reporter release the paper trail. 

  • yesyesyo

    Issue will be closed kapag may napakitang mission order ang mga nag check point. It will be clear the operation was official.

    Kapag wala silang mapakitang mission order, then we have to consider why they were not in uniform, why one van and one suitcase is missing from the crime scene, etc…

  • jga94

    Another MISLEADING article….title says “Palace ok’d…” and then nowhere in the article does it appear that there were any indications that it did….only that the plan was sent to the Palace…..tsk,tsk,tsk…bayaran din….

    I am not condoning summary executions….pero mas lalong lumalabo ang story sa tao dahil sa mali-mali or sensationalist journalism…..

  • http://twitter.com/r_eyesian ian reyes

    why dont we ask VALTE….shes the one TALKING AND YAKKING the day it happen……where are you MAM….can you confirm what you’re saying……NOW!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/bart.thinong Bart Thinong

    Unang araw nang mga tao sa palasyo nang mga living yellow zombies, baliktad ang flag nang nag flag ceremony….hanggang ngayon mga utak ng mga taong ito ay baliktad pa rin. Kawawang juan ang namuno ay pistolero, lasengero at mga trapo.

    • Twister12

      ibalik si gloria lol.para balik maliligayang araw ng mga corrupt heh he

  • superlucky2

    Tinatakpan naman ng Abnoy government ang kapalpakan ng mga pulis. 

    • Twister12

      ibalik si gloria lol.para balik maliligayang araw ng mga corrupt heh he

  • ruthieem7

    Nakakahalata na yang si Dumlao at Marantan ha. Parang mga assassin. Lagi na lang lumulutang ang mga pangalan tuwing may shootout/rubout.

  • ruthieem7

    Misleading title. Panghype ng kwento? Nowhere in this article states that Ochoa approved the coplan. It was just passed to the PAOCC last Oct24.

  • garcia677

    Ms Cinco, why did you twist the facts in your article by stating that Ochoa approved the Atimonan Operation when he denied it as printed in the article of Ms Ager captioned Ochoa disowns mission. You’re covering  a very sensitive operation that was a banner headline for quite a time so all your reports in this widely read newspaper must be factual not merely half baked truths for your coursing your readers to a cliff of erroneous conviction with your raw facts that are printed.

    You should have double checked your sources like Ochoa before you quoted him but now that he denied your report then you actually lost your face with your readers. Even the prestige of this paper, you tainted it.

  • tukmoldinako

    Kung minsan mahirap intindihin ang Pilipino,  bakit kaya napakaraming  pulis / sundalo o air force man yan na nasa grupo ni Vic Siman at napatay sa oras na yan?

    eto bang mga pulis/sundalo na mga ito ay ginawang body guard ni Siman?

    Hindi ba dapat ang mga pulis/sundalo na ito ay nasa kani kanilang departamento at gumagawa ng kanilang tungkulin?

    Sino ba si Vic Siman at Kailangan bantayan ng sandamukal na pulis /sundalo?

    Hindi ba kayo nagtataka? Sino ang isang simpleng business man lang kung totoo na pwedeng humingi ng sandamukal na pulis/sundalo para gawing body guard?

    Sino ang pangkaraniwang tao na sabi nila na pwedeng magbayad ng isang dosenang lisensya sa baril? Sino ang pangkaraniwang tao na makakakuha ng sandosenang permit to carry a gun?

    Sino ang pangkaraniwang tao ang kayang magpasahod ng sandosenang bodyguard?

    Sino ang pangkaraniwang tao ang mapagbigay sa nakararami at kaya sya ay mahal ng taong nakapaligid.

    Kung kaya nyong sagutin yan , alam nyo na rin kung sino si Vic Siman.. LOL

        

  • AlexanderAmproz

    In a Normal decent country they will have been arrested at home as they were identified.
    What happened is a death penalty without court order, an extra judicial killing with criminal collateral damages , in short, it’s an assassination with bloodbath. 

    Philippines as usual, no life respects at all.

    Tourists are welcome for their money, Philippines is more fun.

    Informed and decent tourists aren’t ready to visit the country.

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    daan matuwid?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AU63OD3IM47UAQS5XNO6V5PCCM andz

    Sa police, may dala kng baril at pinaputukan kau tapos tinamaan ung kasama nyo anong gagawin nyo? Sa mga nandon naman sa Van, may dala kaung malaking halaga tapos may humarang sanyong mga armado na nkasibilyan, eh may baril kayo ano rin gagawin nyo?
    Noong unang mabalita to andaming kudos tapos inaako ng lahat ngayon dinedeny na. haha.
    Antayin kase muna natin imbestigasyon bago mag comment.

  • m1600

    napakalaking negosyo na ng JUETENG kaya nag uubusan na sila si JUN LONTOK isang aktibista /leftist  isa sa mga nasawi ang middle man ni SIMAN sa NPA para makapag operate ang jueteng mula sa MEDIA , PULIS,GOVT OFFICIALS, at mga SALOT NA NPA may patong kaya SARAP NG BUHAY nila pati na ang mga MAFIA sa NETHERLANDS na pinamumunuan ni SISON at JALANDONI nakikinabang sa JUETENG. anak kayo ng jueteng!

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      ganyan ang daan matuwid ni penoy

    • OFW28

      kasalanan lahat ito ni GMA

      • indiots

        basahin mo ang kung saan lupalop nagmula sina mike arroyo, malalaman mo dun sila yumaman sa jueting…

  • 123pinoy_ako

    kaya pala pumutak si sen.lacson in defense of marantan kase kasama pala sa nagplano ng operation sa atimonan quezon  si supt. glenn dumlao, tauhan ni lacson at  kasama niyang  akusado  sa dacer and corbito double murder case. mukhang may alam talaga si lacson dito.. titigas talaga ng mga kaluluwa nitong mga eto.

  • dikoy321

    WHY are people KILLED, not Arrested ?

    Even Vic Siman, however TRUE allegations against him are, has a HOME and FAMILY he goes home to, regularly ?

    If evidence is SOLID, WHY NOT ARREST the person, from his home, bantayan pag-uwi ?

    Bakit bantayan sa Kalsada, at meron pang Collateral Damage ?

    Is this the PNP method, KILL and STEAL the SUSPECTED Criminals’ CASH ?

    Something is VERY WRONG with the PNP, if so !

    CORRECT the System please, PRONTO !

    Forward Philippines !!!

    • indiots

      aarestuhin mo? pinaputukan ka na, hahayaan mo pang makatakbo kung may paraan namang gumanti?

      dapat saluduhan ang mga pulis na may guts… paano kung ang lahat ng mga pulis ay tutupi muna at di makagalaw on the spot dahil kailangan pa ng clearance ni pontio pilato?

      hah! kaya nagwala si rambo dahil sa maling desisyon ng isang higher authority…

  • lostRunes

    Ang nakakatawa dito, bakit ang focus ng media eh dun sa pinatay, at hindi DUN SA PUMATAY. Malaking kalokohan to.

    Salamat nalang at dahil sa 3 taon na ni Aquino sa puwesto ang linis linis ng gobiyerno. AY HINDI PALA. SI OCHOA PA NAG APPROVE.

    Parang panahon lang ni Erap, mga lasing ang mga tao sa Cabinet meeting. Ochoa, resign ka na.

    • indiots

      ano kaya at pinalampas na lang nila? ano naman ang masasabi ng mga iginalang ang checkpoint? double standard? iba yong sa mga astig? bah lahat ba ng checkpoint kailangan ng approval ni ochoa?

      ang mga media naman wala… scoop lang ang sa kanila para kumita. sabi nga kahit basura may pakinabang at pwede nating pagkakitaan.

      • lostRunes

        Pre hindi naka uniform ang pumara sa kanila. Ikaw ba titigil kung may taong may baril na papara sa yo? Kung may baril ka man, ang target mo yung kamay at paa niya?

        Ikaw nalang ang naninawala ng may “checkpoint” at may pagpara na nangyari. Ang nangyari dito siguro ay INAMBUSH tapos para hindi sabihing na rub out, nilagyan ng baril at pinaputukan siguro galing loob palabas. Walang usap usap na nangyari.

        “The “Balitanghali” report said the exit points of the bullets indicate
        that the passengers of the vehicle did not shoot from the inside. The
        investigators also reportedly found the holes too big to be the primary
        exits of bullets fired from inside the SUV.

        The NBI
        team also pointed out that the passengers of the vehicle did not roll
        down the windows, because if they had, the passengers would not have
        enough time to roll them up again when the checkpoint team fired at
        them.”

        Ang maniniwala lang sa version ng mga pumatay ng police ay mga tanga o mga NoynoyOchoa diehard fans sa tuwid na daan. Ang nangyari siguro dito, may ginto na nabili yang mga yan, inambush sila at ninakaw yung ginto na binili nila.

      • indiots

        maniniwala ka sa NBI? he he he hawak ni de lima…. may report ba sila kung sino ang bumaril kay marantan?…  bakit nawawala ba ang authority pagnagcivilian ang mga police? mga technical na palusot na lang yan…. style ng mga abogado ni corona noong araw…

      • lostRunes

        Unang una, BAWAL ANG HINDI NAKA UNIFORM NA POLICE sa checkpoint.
         
        Hindi ako maniniwala na si Marantan lang ang natamaan sa kamay at paa; 8 guns at  M14 at M16 ang matatamaan mo lang sa gusto mo patayin kamay at paa? bulag ba sila?

        kung binaba mo ang window para paputukan yung nasa checkpoint (according to Marantan), may time ka pa para itaas uli? Bulletproof ba yung bintana nila para isipin yon?

        13 na tao, nagkasya sa isang sasakyan? anong nangyari sa pangalawa? anong nangyari sa bag na may ginto? (according sa witness)

        Hindi ko kelangan ng NBI para maniwalang RUBOUT ang nangyari diyan.

      • indiots

        punta ka sa laguna dun sa mga umaakyat pa ng bundok… tricycle dun 12 katao kasya he he he

        bintana isang pindutan lang sarado yon sabay sabay pa. bakit kasi kung walang itinatago hindi huminto? malay mo kung kaya pinapara upang bigyan ng warning o babala na may obstruction sa kanilang dadaanan? o baka pagiingatin baka gumuhong lupa sa dadaanan? wala, dahil guilty hindi pa man tinatanong defensive na.

      • indiots

        ano ba ang nangyari sa ambush me kaso ng NBI chief?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OBTGTKV4SLI6HZCEV7AHTZA5XI Juanlatigo-olbulatego

    whether its planned, confidential, approved or not-approved covert operation, when two parties with rival interests and were nothing less than being armed to the teeth, cross each others path at some deserted road, then one should expect that all hell could break loose. 

  • Guest

    Akala ni Mar siguro
    kaya nya gibain si Ochoa kay Pnoy sa paraan ng paninira nya. Si Ochoa
    apolitical si Mar ambitious and power hungry. Obvious sino contrabida.

  • Guest

    Ngayon buking na
    buking agenda. Ni Mar Roxas sa jueteng. Maghihigpit sila ni Purisima sa
    existing players para ang grupo ni Siman ang mag take over. Ang dikit nila
    Siman ay si Chipeco at alcala puro LP

  • m1600

    Si JUN LONTOK middle man ni Siman sa NPA para makapag operate ng jueteng. MGA SALOT na NPA magsalita na kayo kung magkano ang PATONG nyo kay SIMAN sA JUETENG.  

  • m1600

    nag uubusan pulis kontra pulis ,samantalang ang statement ni Simeon ” JUETENG IS NOT MY PRIORITY”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000169193070 Mark Ruland Dizon Guintu

    tama mga pulis na yan nagaagawan lng ng delihensya…kita  mo sabi ni valte legitimate daw ung operation ngayon ang presidente cambio nmn baka daw my nilabag sa check point…malinaw na malinaw rub out un…hay nku….

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000169193070 Mark Ruland Dizon Guintu

    bullshit mga buwayang gutom.

  • boybakal

    The plan that was hatched might be true.
    There is pressure to stop jueteng at all cost.
    How to stop jueteng, exterminate the operators and they have Marantan the Exterminator.
    That is called jueteng justice. You don’t know if you gonna win or lose, this time the alleged operators lost.

    As Mar said, may prueba against Jueteng, lastillas, boletas, plantillas.
    It was planted and the thirteen were hailed by boletas parang pastillas na dinurog.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/L6TTZGNCMP4XWQQCNIX65PTNJM Ciano

    ito na yong tuwid na daan na lagi nilang pinagyayabang.kung totoong sangkot si Siman sa mga illegal,bakit hindi arestuhin? bakit kailangan pang patayin at may nadadamay pang iba? hay naku! palpak na naman….si GMA na naman ang kawawa!

    • $40586212

      e wala tahong magagawa sa bansa nating puro corruption. Sa akala mo ba pag-inarresto ‘yan si Siman ay pupunta siya sa kulungan? you must be kidding! siempre tutululungan siya ng mga connection niya sa taas. Too bad for those people na akala nating innocente, but questionable din kung bakit kasama nila ang head ng organize crime. Dapat shoot to kill ang mga nasa organize crime…mas mamatay tao sila. Mas marami silang pinapatay na mamamayan.   

  • boybakal

    Jueteng is a fun game…especially for the poor for little enjoyment.
    But because Bishop Cruz is crusading against jueteng and why not casino….jueteng becomes a Violent Game…kill, kill, and kill.
    It is more violent than Drugs Killings…Bishop Cruz should be blamed.

    • Mike Henry French

       mga kubrador to? kung hindi, my goodness ang bobo nyo

      • boybakal

         Eh ano kung kubrador, raratratin mo ba na parang ibon.
        Ikaw ang Tunggak!!!!! Dapat kasama kang naratrat. Ikaw ang dakilang Bobo!!!!
        Ungas.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WIWYLFLU4LPKS7B2ZLLRVFKS3Y vir_a

    Nagbunga na ang campaign ni Bishop Cruz. Thirteen people were killed because of his campaign.

    • koolkid_inthehouse

      can you believe PNP will believe gossips and hearsays from a priest without confirming it and arresting the suspects when there’s solid evidence against them?

      How come the priest has list of jueteng lords and PNP don’t have any?

      Are we still in the dark ages?  Martial law years?

  • Pwe Jade

    why carrying a gun so common for people with no common sense?

    take a look at Alfredo Pujeda of Tierra Pura, QC but originally from Infanta, Quezon.  He carries an armada of illegal fire arms whereever he goes.

    A police can simply inspect his pick-up truck to see the guns.  He would simply wave it to their face.

    Tsk, tsk, tsk.  a pity that a supposed reputable org like Rotary Club is cuddling a criminal like PUJEDA (of PTS of STAR tollway and PUJEDA BUILDERS in Culiat, Project 8, QC).

    • koolkid_inthehouse

      how come he’s not stop at any checkpoints or PNP afraid of the shootouts?

  • $40586212

    Dapat lang na shoot ko kill ang mga nasa organize crime…mas marami silang pinapatay na mamamayan. We should not sympathize with them. Sinisira nila ang buhay ng mga anak natin sa drugs, sa gambling…at pagiging assassins.  Wake up people!!! masasamang tao ang mga ito!  Too bad sa mga innocente na nadamay, pero questionable din sila. Bakit kasama nila ang head ng organize crime.  Si Consemino kaya ay innocente? or partner din siya ni Siman. Kung may coplan, ay talagang pinag-aralan ng mga autoridad ang galaw nila, so hindi random ang nangyari. So si Marantan meron siyang karapatan to execute ang operation. Kaya huwag niyo ng sisihin ang mga autoridad na nakahuli sa kanila. Marantan and his men were only doing their job. Truly, we should thank them.

    • koolkid_inthehouse

      your mentality is still from the dark ages.  people like you with that kind of mentality should be shot.

      • $40586212

        hey, everybody has the right to their opinion…akala ko ba may free speech ang bansa natin…unless na ignorante ka…asshole.

      • $40586212

        bakit galit ka ha, unless na kasabwat ka ng mga kriminal na ‘yan.

  • koolkid_inthehouse

    There’s still lot of questions why the PNP is killing all the witnesses or connections to the the higher jueteng lords?

    The likelihood that Maratnan or the PNP/AFP is protecting the very higher influential government or police officials.

    Please explain the purpose of the massacre or the plan of how to arrest the suspest without any warrant of arrest or search.

    The checkpoint procedure is design to ambush not apprehend to protect the capo of jueteng mafia.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

    thanks to aquino,  bart who’s too comfy and released from all the headaches due to his recent retirement, is by now sure to be grinning from ear to ear.

    hasta la vista suckers

  • Janch

    Malapit na ang eleksyon.  Kelangan na naman ang pera.  Kaya nag-aagawan na ng raket at teritoryo ang mga sindikato at mga kasabwat nilang politiko at miyembro ng pulis/military.

  • Albert Einstien

    PALACE STICKER…..lol

    huwad na daan…….dapat imbestigahan nila ILANG BESES pumasok sa palace grounds yang SUV at KANINONG OFFICE cya nagdedeli este  PUMUPUNTA…..BUKING YAN….lol

  • tipay

    pag masamang pulis patayin na, pag ang pumatay na pulis ay masama rin, patayin na rin hahaha!!!!

  • KapitanBagwis

    Why is Consemino doing business with Vic Siman who is a confirmed drug and jueteng lord?

    “Tell me who your companions are and I will tell you who you are” ~ Quote

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

    Request lang,Pwede bang igalang nyo naman ang Official Seal ng Pilipinas? Dapat eh i-limit nyo ang pag-release ng ganitong sticker? Dapat ang official seal eh RADIO FREQUENCY CONTROLLED STICKER.Para everytime eh nasusubaybayan for security reason.Yun naman eh kung pu-pwede lang naman?

  • wehd1nga

    nasaan napunta yung kulay pula maleta at yung clutch bag ni supt. consemino sa front seat.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

    Presidential Seal should be recorded under the name of certain officials who´s making it´s service.Example,kung ang serbisyo ng sasakyan eh para kay Mr Ochoa eh dapat sa kanya nakapangalan ang record ng sasakyan.Dapat eh may batas dito! Sa picture pa lang eh masasabi ko na agad na maluwag ang batas! WHY? Official Seal must be place ONLY in a Government vehicle that pass the safety requirement!…Rule no#1 Vehicle wind shield must be BULLET PROOF!

  • Andrew James Villarose

    Anong collateral damage?? di namn jeep or bus yang ni rat rat na di mo kilala mga sumasakay..SUV yun. Nakisakay lang ba mga yun?? Magkakakila mga yan..as in magkaka sabwat…

    Kudos to you Marantan!!!! gamitin nyo pera nila sa mga iba pang operation nyo at siempre..kuha ka na rin kahit konti at mahal ang bayad sa hospital. .hehehe

  • Andrew James Villarose

    Ah wait…baka UV EXPRESS na van ginamit!!!!!colllateral damage nga!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2DG3R2AAQZDON2KH45T3YC5DOA del pillar

    One of the Ten Commandments of God says and I quote; “DO NOT KILL”, ergo no amount of justifications or reasons can say or order “TO KILL” per se… God is only one that can justifiably take back what He created!

    • $40586212

      eh paano naman kung self defense?

    • AlexanderAmproz

      A failed Clergy since Magellan responsibility !

  • pinoypower

    What’s really the objective of ‘Coplan Armado’? Jueteng, gun for hire or illegal drugs? The people killed were not in the order of battle of the police in Quezon and had no previous criminal records. Their guns were licensed something which gun for hires don’t use in their operations. The circumstances when they were killed were highly irregular and violated police procedures. Given all these things, it was a gross mistake to have all of them killed.
    Perhaps they were really involved in jueteng but the best approach would have been to capture them and file cases in the courts. Our policemen are becoming too trigger happy and taking justice in their own hands.

  • disqus_EWrSdjV1nv

    Both sides are malacanangs operators. kunwari pa. isang grupo si mar roxas may hawak. yung isa si ochoa kasama dnd.

  • zeroko

    He he he! Looking from the outside, the perception here is that we have a narco-politics and jueteng government. Every high officials from Malacanyang, the Congressmen, the Governors, and the PNP and military are on the take. This is an open secret.

    But going one step further like this massacre is going too far. This is one warlord taking over another one. In the State of New :YOrk, the Mafia warlords try to outdo and out flunck its other because of the lucrative price. The Mafia first come out during the booth legging or illegally made liquor  then they engage on illegal drugs, then gambling and prostitution. They legitimize their existence by buying legitimate business. They built the Las Vegas Casino. Now even the Vatican is not spared. Two enemies of the Vatican is taking over the control of the vast wealth of the Catholics, they are the Mafia and the Free Masons. 

    IN here, it is not far fetch that Jueteng money and narco-money is use to finance and bribe the politicians. Who know, they are the “Kings maker.” Alam naman nating lahat na pera pera lang naman ang politics during election.

    Talo si Erap ni PNoy because the financing of PNoy came from his Uncle, Lucio Tan, and Henry Sy. Further more, the Chinese business group of Makati was behind his back. Poor Erap, he has to sell his Green Hills Mansion to pay for his expenses. In the 2013 Election will be the same, Chinese group will lord over the election. No wonder that even far fetch barangays like Campostela Valley has Chinese as their Congressman and Governor. 

    Kasalanan ito ng mga “patay gutom na mga Judas na Pinoy na galing sa Class D and E. But I do not blame them, considering that they are at the verge of starvation. As the saying goes, Honesty and Honor is exclusively for the rich, the poor can not afford to be honest because of their dire needs to survive. Kakagat sila sa patalum.

    • FernandoBusi

      i beg to defer honor is not exclusive to the rich i know some class A / B people na pati 1M papatusin.

  • zeroko

    Kawawa naman si Singson, talo na twice sa Paquiao fight, ganoond din ang kasama niyang “Water Boy” si Atienza. Buti nga sa inyo. Atienza being former DENR and Singson, Governor or something in Ilocos Sur desert their jobs no matter what ang join Paquiao in Las Vegas everytime he has a fight. Talo rin ang mga Congressmen headed by the HOuse Speaker Belmonte Jr. and his Congressmen hords in the Marquiz Paquiao fight. Talo sila. The Cingressmen was hoping that they will get their winnings for the coming May 2013 election. He he he. Talo. Now, Belmonte Jr. decided to aportion among themselves 500 thousand Christmas Bonus as their campaign funds. Broke na sila. 

    It’s good that the crying lady alias whistle blower who revealed the scum in the military was appointed a high position next to the Commissioner of COA. He hehe. Sabi niya, “Congressmen, beware of fooling around with your pork barrels. I will watch your activities from now on.”

  • bogart73

    para palang sa pelikula ni lito lapid ang ginawa ni marantan, aba eh kung totoong pangyayari ang sinasabi nya na pinara niya ang sasakyan ni siman para siyasatin pero inunahan sila eh dapat pinaglalamayan na siya ngayon.. sa laki ng katawan niya bakit sa kamay at hita lang siya tinamaan?

  • http://Yahoo.com/ Ragdeleafar

    Have full confidence and trust to the Chief of PNP & PAOCC their names are clean, PNP Chief ‘Purisima’ & Chief Supt. ‘Villasanta’ names that speak of themselves of reliance, devotion & commitment!

    • topolcats

      No one is clean in the Philippines pal from the very top to the very bottom!
      Every one in the world knows that!……the only thing clean enough is Filipina Puntang! 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NRLFHB4ZOMCNGDUJ2ZINRV7DAQ Juan

    what about the malacanang sticker? where’s the news about the picture? Come on you can do better than that……. can you?

  • tarikan

    Kuratong Baleleng part 2. Nasaan daw yung maletang pula eh baka puno ng grasya yun? Nung sa Kuratong nawala din yung milyones na naipon nila mula sa KFR business. Pero ok laang, isang kawatan na-isahan ng isa ding kawatan, tabla. Itong pangalawang kawatan madadali din ito ng pangatlo…and so on and so forth.

    • legnasagra

      very good logic

  • batangpaslit

    the Presidential Seal in the vehicle of the Jueteng Lord simply speaks for itself.
    the said Jueting Lord have “padrino” in Malacananng Palace
    so, tama lang ang galaw ni Col Maratrat
    he does not care who the padrinos are and gets hurt
    diba ‘yan ang gusto ng karamihang Filipino. to carry out the stamping of criminal syndicates it must be carried out regardless who gets hurt

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/iV0XkkNontlsHWTkG2jcuz.PB64A#6b054 F alonso

      Kulang pa nag yung 400+,sana ineksakyong 500,humanda kayo mga kriminal.
      Dapat mag sama sina Col. Hansel,Dumlao at Duterte para walisin nila mga hardened 
      criminals.
      Nasa list pala ni Bishop Cruz yung Foolish Col.Consemino so talagang pasaway itong si Col. Ang tanong may mas mataas na handler si Col Consemino,yan dapat ang malaman.
      Legitimate or illegitimate encounter is no longer the point of issue here.The lucky 13 are members of organized crime syndicate and they have the right to remain silent forever.

  • Markov Chain

    maingay ang mga politiko ngayon dahil d pa dumadating ang payout galing sa rubout…tingnan nyo, pagnabayaran na ang mga yan, wala na kayong balitang mababasa about sa “atimonan 13″ (LOL)…..kung sino ang pinaka maingay, yan ang pinakamalaki ang payout….pera pera lang yan….

  • 4KABUTIHANNGpinoy

    galing ng mga teorya niyo.  kandidato kayo para gumada buhay sa pinas !
    Pero gawa ng maganda. di puro haka haka na walang kwenta   

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