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CBCP to push probe of voting machines

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CEBU CITY—The president of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines (CBCP) believes the computerized voting machines successfully used in the 2010 elections are flawed and he wants them thoroughly examined before these are used in next year’s midterm elections.

Cebu Archbishop Jose Palma’s doubts about the precinct count optical scan (PCOS) machines echo those of Sen. Aquilino Pimentel III, who has been saying for some time that the voting machines are not perfect.

On Wednesday, Pimentel called on the country’s computer experts to join the hunt for glitches in the source codes that the Commission on Elections (Comelec) will use in the machines.

Made by the Argentinian company Smartmatic International, the PCOS machine uses paper ballots and counts the votes.

The machine may be turned on by using a security key entrusted to the polling precinct’s board of election inspectors.

Security pins are needed to configure the machine and show that there is no entry or vote in its memory.

The machine scans the marked ballots fed into it by voters. At the end of the balloting, the machine counts the votes and prints the returns.

The returns can be electronically transmitted to the Comelec central server and the board of canvassers at the municipal, city, provincial and national levels.

Defective machine

Palma, CBCP president, told a news conference at the Archbishop’s Palace on Wednesday that he believed the PCOS machines had defects.

“I, for one, can tell, or I will say I’m not ashamed to tell people that I also believe [the PCOS machine has defects]. It has to be examined and that is part of the agenda of the CBCP,” Palma said.

Palma was responding to a question about the possibility that the PCOS machines could still be manipulated and used in cheating, like what happened in some parts of the country in 2010.

He said the PCOS machine would be on the agenda of the CBCP meeting in January.

Palma said the conference would discuss the voting machines because many people had reason to believe that the machines had “a lot of defects.”

But Cebu Provincial Election Supervisor Lionel Marco Castillano said the PCOS machines were not defective.

Castillano said the Comelec had plans to put in additional features in the PCOS machines to enhance its security and integrity for next year’s elections.

“We assure the public that the Comelec will not agree to the use of defective PCOS machines [in the elections],” he said.

“We will not compromise the integrity of the elections just to push through with the polls. If the PCOS machines are defective, then we will not use these.”

Never proven

He maintained that the accusations that the PCOS machines were used to cheat in the 2010 elections had not been proven.

Castillano recalled that in the court proceedings on the election protests questioning the results of PCOS count, the manual count showed the same results as the computerized count.

He cited as an example the protest of a losing candidate in San Fernando town in Cebu province where the court recount showed the same results as the PCOS count.

Pimentel, chairman of the Senate committee on electoral reforms and a reelectionist on the administration ticket, called on the Comelec to be less restrictive in having experts examine the source codes that would be used in the PCOS machines.

Pimentel said the Comelec should allow the source codes to be examined outside the commission’s premises.

Voters’ trust

“Our objective is to bring back the trust of the people in the Comelec and the elections,” Pimentel said in a statement.

“A review of the source codes would allow the detection of glitches, flaws and vulnerabilities in our electronic electoral system,” he said.

“Such flaws in the software and the hardware that use them must be detected and corrected if the 2013 and succeeding elections are to be protected from sabotage or attempts to favor any particular candidate,” Pimentel added.

Pimentel invited the country’s information technology experts to volunteer to help review the PCOS source codes.

He said the Senate panel on electoral reforms would gather together the experts for the examination of the codes for flaws that may be used for sabotage and fraud.—With reports from Norman Bordadora in Manila and Inquirer Research


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  • acaldejr

    Kahit computerized yan, there will always be glitches.  But it is a lot lot lot better than manual voting and counting.  Oh gee, these CBCP is really getting in to my nerves.  Sawang sawa na ako sa inyo.  Yang mga pari nga na lang ang bantayan ninyo?

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    Separation of church and state Padre Damaso

    GlorIa bribed to Mitsubishop and Safari Butuan City Bishop Juan de Dios Pueblos, who received a Mitsubishi Montero, Bontoc-Lagawe Bishop Rodolfo Beltran (Nissan Pathfinder), Abra Bishop Leopoldo Jaucian (Mitsubishi Strada), Cotabato Archbishop Orlando Quevedo (Toyota Grandia Hi-Ace), Basilan Bishop Martin Jumoad (Mitsubishi Strada), Zamboanga Archbishop Romulo Valles (Toyota Grandia Hi-Ace); and Nueva Segovia Archbishop Ernesto Salgado (Isuzu Crosswind).

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      After nine years of being bribed by GMA, the corrupt Bishops get nothing from Pnoy.  That’s why they keep attacking Pnoy on every issue.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/67RMK3SB7FI22XPPEXF75OLOOA Marco

      Ang galing po nila ano? Kahanga-hanga… kagalang-galang…..Dapat pamarisan! Makahingi nga rin ng kahit TOYOTA Hi-Lux man lang. OBISPO din kaya ako. My name is MARCO P. OBISPO. Hahahahahaha. ANG KAKAPAL NILA!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/H4INAGLB7BOCJ4EVP3ZWJQRQ74 itsumo

      Si PGMA at Cebu gov GARCIA ay parehong paraan sa pamamalakad ng pwesto. Kaya nga si Bishop Palma apektado ngayon,

      Pareho din sila mga kapamilya nila may mga pwesto rin sa congresso kaya nga lalong titigas talaga.

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    Priest who had sex with boys now tells how to smuggle ivory

    National Geographic‘s new issue exposes the ivory business, which has been hiding in plain sight since a worldwide trade ban was enacted in 1989. And a major player in the magazine’s story is a priest in the Philippines whom I wrote about in 2005 when investigating another global-trafficking phenomenon — the Catholic Church’s movement of sexual abuse suspects across international borders to escape justice.

    The priest, Monsignor Cristobal Garcia, is now quoted as explaining how to smuggle ivory into the United States: 

    “Wrap it in old, stinky underwear and pour ketchup on it.” And if an icon won’t fit in a suitcase? Here’s how 

    National Geographic‘s Bryan Christy summarizes Garcia’s advice: “I might get a certificate from the National Museum of the Philippines declaring my image to be antique, or I could get a carver to issue a paper declaring it 

    to be imitation or alter the carving date to before the ivory ban.”Garcia also made provocative comments when I interviewed him about why he fled the U.S. in 1985. He admitted having sex with altar boys and supplying them with drugs

    The Catholic sex abuse cases are a series of convictions, trials and investigations into allegations of child sexual abuse Crimes committed by Catholic priests and members of Roman Catholic orders against children as young as 3 years old with the majority between the ages of 11 and 14.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      As usual, the Catholic apologists would say the priests are only humans who commit mistakes.  End of argument.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/H4INAGLB7BOCJ4EVP3ZWJQRQ74 itsumo

    Just ask the DOTA experts maybe they can help.

    Takot lang siguro si bishop Palma, baka yung mga paboritong trapo na politicians siguradong matatalo ngayong 2013 elections. Gawing PCOS ang dahilan sa kanilang pagkatalo.

  • Russell Ariola

    Hay naku meron nang embistigasyon sa Senado tungkol dito. Sana ang pagtuunan na lang ng pansin ng CBCP ay ang pag-aralin nitong mga pare natin sa mga makabagong sulatin at panuntunan ng Vatican, tulad halimbawa sa pagpapa-unlak ng Santo Papa sa deborsyo sa Amerika at Europa.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    There goes CBCP again.  After being knocked out by RH Bill, they now question the voting machine to create a scenario that next year’s election’s cheating by those pro-RH candidates.

  • pasaway008ako

    Pumapapel yata ang CBCP a. Mayroon na bang magandang nagawa ang CBCP? Ang ginagawa lang yata ng mga taga CBCP ay manggulo sa adhikin ng bayan para tumino a.

  • GlenMJacob

    Wow the Bishops now are experts on election. Where were they when the Filipinos were still counting paper ballots for days ? It was the nuns who are on the front line during the Marcos and post Marcos period who risks their lives protecting the will of the people! In the first place as Russell below has said the senate did an investigation already. What gives?. Are our bishops nothing else to do? Please divert your energies on the true mission of the church, educate the flock, or maybe the Philippine bishops needs re-training. Paging Vatican hello….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Z2ZAPSK7SNDIUAF2ZI5EIZUIC4 allan

    Nag-aagawan na naman ng kapangyarihan ang dalawang ganid na institusyon…kawawang Juan.

  • quirinomayer

    Could you imagine Christ and the disciples getting involved in the process of selecting civil authorities during their time? Christ and the disciples practiced separation of state and church.These false teachers obviously do not. These modern-day and power-hungry Pharisees want to have the whole coin – the side which belongs to  God and the side which belongs to Caesar.  

    SHUT UP, PADRE DAMASO!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/67RMK3SB7FI22XPPEXF75OLOOA Marco

       Hahahaha! “USKOT” PADRE DAMASO! USKOT means keep your mouth shut.

      • Guest

         You keep your mouth shut.

  • opinyonlangpo

    Nothing wrong with the machines, the defect lies on the people handling them. The CBCP can help avoid this by instructing their clergy to preach honesty to the people and not get bribed by pajeros and so on.

    • mamer2

      Yeah.
      Just like “Guns do not kill. People do”

  • Guest

    With all due respect, but isn’t that COMELEC’s job?

  • Kate Gordon

    Wow! in which galaxy does cbcp become computer experts?!   Oh I forgot, forget galaxy, cbcp still thinks the universe rolls around the earth!   

    Cbcp, we will allow you to investigate the machines only if you allow us to look into the personal records of your priests and yourselves!  Anyway cbcp does not recognize the separation of church and state right?  

    And while we are in this subject, cbcp, take out your right of protection from litigation!  Unlike you, the rest of us believe in equality under law! 

  • Pedro_Gil

    Lord, forgive and teach them for they know not what they’re doing.

    • Ross18

       Hahahaha….good one Pedro.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/67RMK3SB7FI22XPPEXF75OLOOA Marco

       Will said Pedro! Go!go!go!

  • erap_ng_masa_1969

    CBCP-Comelec Bishops Conference of the Philippines

  • josefe38

    Tama lang na pangunahan ng CBCP ang malalimang pagsasaliksik sa katatagan at kaligtasan ng buong system ng PCOS machine. Bilang simbahan na ang nais lang naman ay isang malinis ,matiwasay at katanggap-tanggap na resulta  sa halalan, ito’y tanggap at suportahan ng lahat na mamamayan na bitbit ang kahalintulad na mithi-in, ang malinis na halalan na magloklok ng mga opisyal na totoong halal ng bayan.

      Sa mga mabababaw ang pag-iisip o kaya ayaw ng malinis na halalan at nais mandaya, sila yung bumabatikos sa hangarin ng simbahan. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EU56OS2ATEZ27LRS2Y7UWERATE Jovy

    Naki-alam nanaman ang mga pare. Please don’t you guys have anything better to do?

  • mucho_cheapo

    Once again, quit meddling in the affairs of the State. CBCP should concentrate on spreading the Gospel of the Lord which, given the state of affaiirs of the country, have failed miserably.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PM6JHCFR2KT2AURMWRDUXBNLQY Darwin

      Good suggestion! Wish they followed that in February 1986.

      • mtxinu

         Are you suggesting that Marcos would have not been kicked out if it wasn’t for the meddling of the Catholic Church? I think you are making bold inaccurate assumptions here.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4PIU2AIGVXJNQ4UBH5X64MSFE mr

        yes, and now they want Cory to become a saint, she never helped the poor farmers in their hacienda and even have them massacred at Mendiola.

      • mamer2

        The Catholic Church, under the leadership of Cardinal Sin was able to “gel the people to unite against the Dictator Marcos and his minions.”

        Without Cardinal Sin calling for the gathering of ‘concerned citizens’,,, 
        I doubt if anyone would have been able to unite a “force, strong enough to PUSH Marcos out of power”.

  • Yobhtron

    The only thing that is flawed and needs thoroughly examined is the political tendencies of the CBCP.  Demet! The PCOS machines is much more accurate than manual voting.  Damaso Palma’s favorite child Gwen Garcia will surely lose in the coming election.

    • jurbinsky77

      WIthout naming Gwen Garcia, she was mentioned in an opinion article, as the ”kabit” of the governor of Cebu, that she became powerful  enough to run for elective office, Baby Arenas is there .. and the concubiines of Joseph Estrada.

  • josefe38

    Tama lang na pangunahan ng CBCP o kung gusto (kung gusto lang naman) ng ibang malalaking simbahan gaya ng UCCP, INC, etc., ang malalimang pagsasaliksik sa katatagan at kaligtasan ng buong system ng PCOS machine. Bilang simbahan na ang nais lang naman ay isang malinis ,matiwasay at katanggap-tanggap na resulta  sa halalan, ito’y tanggap at suportahan ng lahat na mamamayan na bitbit ang kahalintulad na mithi-in, ang malinis na halalan na magloklok ng mga opisyal na totoong halal ng bayan.
      Sa mga mabababaw ang pag-iisip o kaya ayaw ng malinis na halalan at nais mandaya, sila yung bumabatikos sa hangarin ng simbahan.

  • basilionisisa

    hindi dapat binibigyan ng pansin ang mga PANGUGULONG ganito na dati nang napatunayan na wala basehan at di totoo, kung walang bagong ebidensyang mahigpit na nagpapatunay sa alegasyon. Dapat may batas tayo against NUISANCE or TIME-WASTING sa mga civilians na nagsasampa ng katulad nitong alegasyon, na pag ‘pinatulan’ ng korte at inimbistigahan at napatunayang walang katotohan at PANG-AABALA lang ang talagang pakay, na dapat silang magmulta o makulong.

    at itong si Pimentel, sya lang ang walang Trust sa Comelec idinadawit pa ang buong bayan.

    at hindi siguro naiintindihan ang contract sa PCOS, tyak Rights lang sa ‘paggamit’ sa Application or System ang binayaran dyan kaya hindi ‘ipapabusisi’ ng PCOS ang source (programs) nila. You may TEST it, try to BREAK it as much as you like, pero tyak hindi ‘ibibigay’ sa inyo ang source nyan, intellectual property nila yan.

    tapos sasabit-sabit itong walang-magawang mga Bishops… napapailing na lang siguro ang mga santo’t anghel sa Langit sa stubborness, arrogance at vindictiveness ng mga ito. Lost cause na talaga ang mga bishops sa Pilipinas.

  • Hey_Dudes

    Lekat talaga itong mga ipokritong nakasuot abito.  Katatapos pa lang ng buntisan issue, botohan naman ang gustung panghimasukan?

  • kapayapaan_1900

    In fairness to the CBCP, it is but right to say their concern is legit!  Better watch out!  Smartmatic machines which were used in the first computerized election in the Philippines and touted a success in the speedy counting of votes are in play again.  So many questions hurled by IT experts questioning the 2010 election results are still unanswered to-date.  With billions of pesos tainted with Filipino blood at their disposal and with the current composition of the COMELEC plantilla from the national down to the local level whose loyalty to their political patron comes first, corrupt politicians, in cahoot with the corruptible telecommunications industry whose facilities are used to transmit the election results to the server inside the COMELEC, can easily manipulate results of the coming election.  I worry about the result of those survey showing the much reviled personality landing in the top ten in the senatorial winning column.  Is this a conditioning of the public mind?  I could be wrong but I always knew corrupt politicians are always one step ahead of us.

    Calling edverybody specially all Filipino IT experts (one of the best in the world) who still love your country:  vigilance is the name of the game..         

    • 33Sambuang

      cbcp sucks. they should not meddle in politics. instead they should concentrate on helping the poor and disciplining their pedophile, maniac priest..

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      What in fairness to CBCP?  CBCP has not been fair.  CBCP said and did nothing during the “Hello Garci” scandal and all those cheatings.  For nine years, they were mum on GMA’s abuses and corruption because they benefited from her.

  • boshog

    Bishops what the hell is your business dictating to the government what to do.  A little common sense should tell to keep out of things that don’t concern the church.  If you pay taxes maybe you can be entitled to participate actively in government.  Meanwhile tend to your church..you are declining in followers.

    • ambugon

      I would rather listen and engage in ‘kwentong barbero’ rather than read these one and two liner comments in this paper.  
       

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/67RMK3SB7FI22XPPEXF75OLOOA Marco

        I would rather suggest if you better go to the barber shop and trim your baldy hair. You are insinuating your nonsense comments that full of pretentious. Shame on you!

      • mamer2

        Then “do what you’d rather do”. 
        No one is stopping you.

  • Pork_Republik

    Oy, CBCP ano na ang status nun obispo diyan sa diocese ng Paranaque? Inuna niyo na naman ang politika kesa ayusin ang house ni Lord, amen? 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4PIU2AIGVXJNQ4UBH5X64MSFE mr

      Anong house ni Lord, ginagawa ngang bahay aliwan mga kombento nila.

      • mamer2

        Another “evil spreading lies”.
        Any SOLID proof in what you are saying, mr…?

  • Platypus09

    I agree. They should watch everything that affects fair elections.

    With their defeat on RH bill, they will step their games up. They have no choice, win or lose.

  • okabato

    Hehehe … nakialam na naman ang mga saserdote, sinawsaw na naman ang kanilang mga darili sa mundo ng pulitika si Pnoy kasi pasimuno ng RH at ngayon ang Divorce. Susunod dito ang pahayag na duda sila sa resulta ng PCOS machines nun 2010 election sasabihin nila hindi talaga si Pnoy ang nanalo kundi si Erap.

    • mamer2

      Pnoy has never said that he is for “Divorce”.
      In fact, he said that he won’t support any move to pass any “Divorce Bill”.

      Saying that Erap won in the 2010 Election is an “Outright LIE”.
      You have no evidence, whatsoever.
      (You just wish that Erap won.)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TRUL7WO4HJPGNVCKIHP4PTZGX4 Mark

    These bishops should not meddle on issues they do not have any competence.  They are making things worse all the time instead of contributing.  How can he believe that these machines have defects?  does he have any evidence to show his claim?  Are we to believe his opinion knowing he has no computer/software programming background?

    • mtxinu

       I agree completely. If he wants to express his opinion as a citizen and is concerned about the machine that’s one thing. But to say “I, for one, can tell, or I will say I’m not ashamed to tell people that
      I also believe [the PCOS machine has defects]. It has to be examined
      and that is part of the agenda of the CBCP” is totally ludicrous. The CBCP has no business in the affairs of the government nor in politics. I really am confused to the motive and even objective on the existence of this group. Shameful!

    • TinimbangNgunitKulang

      Nagpapapogi lang ang mga iyan after they lost face with the RH bill passage.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4PIU2AIGVXJNQ4UBH5X64MSFE mr

    Nakialam na naman mga bading na pareng Katokliko. Gusto pa yatang bumalik ang Pinas sa mano manong botohan na puro dayaan kagaya ng ginawa ni Glorya at mga galamay na Ampawtuan at Hello Garci. Hoy, mga bobong pare, magkolekta na lang kayo ng mga abuloya para naman meron kayong pangtustos sa mga boy toy nyo na mga teenagers, wag na kayong makisawsaw sa politika.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/67RMK3SB7FI22XPPEXF75OLOOA Marco

    Mahilig kasi makialam at maki-sawsaw sa politika itong mga ito (CBCP) kaya lalong nagkakagulo ang sambayanan. Kaya tuloy nawawalan na ng tiwala at respeto ang mga tao sa inyo. Dapat ang atupagin po ninyo ay ang religious sanctity lang ng simbahan. Separation of church and state is more important. Bakit ba kayo nakikialam sa politika at gobyerno? Kasi dahil sa mga visted interests ninyo. Di po ba? Hindi kata-taka, maraming mga katoliko ang umanib or lumipat  na sa ibang relehiyon dahil na rin sa pakiki-sawsaw nyo sa politika. Ako katoliko din ako, pero dahil sa mga pinang-gagawa nyo, nag babalak na rin ako umiba at lumipat ng ibang relehiyon. Dapat lagyan nyo ng boundary ang function nyo sa simbahan at politika. Kong may natititara pa kayong hiya at delikadesa, sana tigilan nyo na ang panghihmasok sa politika ng Pilipinas.

    • ambugon

      hindi mo naiintindihan ang separation of church and state principle. magresearch ka muna bago ka mag-comment.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/67RMK3SB7FI22XPPEXF75OLOOA Marco

        Ikaw siguro ang dapat mag research kaibigan Dindo Fernando, este Ballebar pala. Baka nabubulagan ka lang o di kaya nag bulag-bulagan…. Pakibasa nga po ang mga comments sa ibaba. Ilang percentage ba sa tingin mo ang umaayon sa ginagawang ito ng mga minamahal nating CBCP. Suriin mong maige. Almost 98% of comments being shared here-under are all negative, thereby against CBCP’s action(s) within the political structure in the Philippine society. Magbasa ka kaibigan.

      • $19291130

        Tama!!!  Nagiging masama tuloy ang Church ng dahil sa mga nakikialam sa politics.  Ayunnnn ang daming mahihirap at hindi nila tulungan kung bakit mga politics pinapakialaman…ONDOY, SENDONG, PABLO at mga NASUNUGAN nakialam ba ang mga OBISPO?  Tumulong ba sila?  Gusto ninyo bow lang ng bow sa inyo ang mga presidente at kung ano ang hingin ninyo bigay lang bigay..PAJERO…..Amen…

    • Filpino

      napadaan ka ba sa mga simbahan nitong simbang gabi? hindi mo ba nakita ang dami ng mga nagsisimba? inggit ka ano? dami parin kami kahit kaliwa’t kanan ang bira nyo.

      mga hunghang kasi kayo. tingin namin sa mga katulad nyo kawawa dapat ipagdasal ng maliwanagan.

  • KapitanBagwis

    Ano na ba talaga ang papel nitong mga ungas na Obispo na ito?

    Unconstitutional na siguro ang ginagawang pakikialam ng grupong ito sa pamamalakad ng gobyerno.

    Oras na siguro para itakwil ng mga kasapi sa lokal na RCC ang simbahang katolika.. Hindi ang paniniwala sa Diyos ang itatakwil kundi ang paniniwala sa mga Obispong sakim sa kapangyarihan.

    Politaka na ang inaatupag, hindi ang pangangaral at kahalagahan ng salita ng Diyos.

    Ginagamit ang pulpito upang magalit ang tao sa pamahalaan. Mga ipokrito.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/67RMK3SB7FI22XPPEXF75OLOOA Marco

       Tompak! Mabuhay ka. Kaisa mo ako kaibigan…

    • Filpino

      bakit ka magagalit sa kapakanan naman ng bayan ang pagpuna nila? masama bang i question ang anomalya sa eleksyon?

      kapag nagsawalang kibo naman ang simbahan tinitira nyo na puro pera lang ang alam.

      bakit noong panahon ba na andito si Jesus sa Israel hindi ba nakialam ang mga high priest sa pulitikal na pamamalakad ng mga romano?

      Ang pagboto ba ng INC ni manalo na “block voting” hindi ba maituturing na pakikialam sa pulitika gayong di nila hinahayaan ang mga members nila na makapagdesisyon?

      Ang pag-eendorso bo ng mga pastor sa partikular na mga kandidato di rin ba pangingialam?

      Ang Diyos ba walang pakialam sa pulitikal sa buhay ng tao?

      sobra bang talino at linis ng mga pulitiko na hindi na sila magkakamali?

      o sobrang dumi nila na dapat di na sila pakialaman?

      • mabyrik

        A piece of advice, please go back to the year 2004 when FPJ was cheated by GMA and a bishop’s statement “Everybody cheats anyway”. 

        Maybe, you will be awaken. These bishops, have zero credibility to issue statemnet in regards to election cheating. 

        Sorry Bro, but they deserve this kind of treatment from the citizenry of this republic.

      • KapitanBagwis

        “Ang Diyos ba walang pakialam sa pulitikal sa buhay ng tao?” – Saan mo nakuha ito? Saan sa banal na kasulatan nasasaad na nakialam ang Panginoong Hesukristo sa mga bagay na politikal ?

        Malayong malayo ang sagot mo sa komentaryo at opinyon ko. Ang issue ay ang pakikialam ng mga Mitsubishop sa tungkulin ng pamahalaan. Hindi kung sino sino ang itinuturo mo.

        Para kang si ex-CJ Corona, nagtuturo, nangdaramay sa kanyang kasalanan.

  • 33Sambuang

    haysss mga obispong ungas. pakialamero talaga kayo…manahimik nga kayo. imbes na bigyan nyo ng tulong ang mga mahihirap, nagpopolitika na naman ang mga hinayupak

  • 33Sambuang

    tarantado kayong mga obispo kayo. wala na kayong magawa sa buhay ninyo. di ba halos lahat sa inyo e galamay ni GMA? MAHIYA KAYONG MGA HINAYUPAK…..

  • kayanatwo

    27dec2012

    nobody asked me, but……since when the republic of the philippines became a “church state”?????

    these bishops are having so much time on their hands that they can find time to mix their callings with “politics”, but at the same token, these same bishops can not find an hour to set up “a soup-kitchen” for this past christmas to feed the less fortunate.

    only in the philippines where roman catholic bishops are becoming the modern day “richelieu”…only in the philippines……..

    • mamer2

      Probably trying to regain “losing face”.

      It still “boils down to PRIDE”…, the Greatest Sin of All, (next to Blasphemy).

      • Filpino

        pagsama samahin man members ng sekta nyo, di parin nyo mapupuno ang baklaran hehehe.

        Nakadaan kaba sa mga simbahan nitong mga simbang gabi? Dami tao no karamihan pa kabataan hehehe.. luwa mata nyo sa inggit hehe

    • Filpino

      ay naku sigurado ka na wala kahit pang soup man lamang?

      hirap sa inyo tira kayo ng tira sa simbahan at mga pari, sige sagarin nyo pang-iinsulto nyo sa mga kaparian. kapag na puno na kaming mga katoliko yari kayo sa gulpi.

      tahimik lang karamihan sa aming katoliko pero di nangangahulugang natutuwa kami sa mga binibintang nyo at pang-iinsulto.

      inggit na inggit siguro kayo at puno parin mga simbahan sa simbang gabi hehehe

      • KapitanBagwis

        Yan ang turo sa inyo ng mga Mitsubishop, mang gulpi hehehe kawawa naman kayong mga bulag na tagasunod sa mga sakim sa kapangyarihang mga ungas na Mitsubishop.

  • DarkSideOfTheMoon2

    what is next CBCP? that all government biddings are rigged??? why dip your fingers in politics?

  • mamer2

    Yes, CBCP.
    Are you SURE that “the Computerized Voting Machines” are FLAWED.?
    If you’re NOT SURE…, it would be MUCH BETTER if you just Shut-Up and Observe.
    Do not get too involve in politics, specially if you do not have “solid proof” of any wrong-doing.
    Do not just fish for evidence to feed your ego(s). Things are already bad as it is (on your part).

  • WAJ

    CBCP Catholic Religious group as I may say are in politics again. Why don’t you just make your own political party and run for office in the government. Otherwise stop the bull shit…you have no part in political affairs.

  • whreyxk

    Mga ungas na mga pari. Magsitigil na kayo mga KUPAL

  • jurbinsky77

    The flaw is not in the PCOS machine, it maybe that the voters themselves wrote the right candidates’ names and yet there are spare documents where the name of the cheater has been previously written which will be run into the machine..

    I still can’t accept without reservation that Binay won in Mindanao via overwhelming number of votes. Murderer-warlords can make things happen beyond logic.

    Similarly in the States, Obama won in a county (either in Ohio or Iowa) where the number of votes is more than the number of residents and in another county, Romney received zero amid the protestation of the local Republican committee, seemingly, even the Republican poll representatives voted for Obama.

  • jurbinsky77

    In a summary judgement proceeding,where material facts will be litigated, the CBCP case will be thrown out.

    The bishops should attend to the moral well-being of the people not on politics. If they are given SUVs (not Hayun ‘day or Kia), they are quiet amid the the blatant graft and cheating.

  • $20722540

    go go Fathers!!! para matauhan ang mga taga comelec at palasyo…gagamit ng mga machines na pirated…ano ba itong administration na ire

  • saintleonardo

    Remove the bad weeds in your organization like the pajero bishops, those who received money from the politician in return for their silence for the wrong doing committed to the people. You have to restore your credibility first because at present you are credible as Lolong.

  • Platypus09

    Remember, politics in Philippines is totally different from the liberated US.

    The religious groups have been involved, from Catholic priests to Iglesia ni Cristo church, born-again church leaders, and other denominations.

    This is not going to change.

    Catholic leaders are in the fore front. I support their moves.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EOZMBB5MVRJMWVSMUIQFRF45F4 F

    fine, the priests should also probe the homosexuals in their flock who abuse children

  • UrHONOR

    >>>CBCP to push probe of voting machines<<<

    COULD been a welcome news if it were:  CBCP TO PUSH VIGOROUSLY DILIGENT PROBE OF ERRANT, CRIMINAL, AND SINNING CHURCHMEN DRESSED IN WHITE.

    The CBCP and its associates have been cavalier on animadversions about their trespassing because they think that they still have the MORAL ASCENDANCY of the society and command respect form many of the once emasculated sheeple. They are gravely mistaken. But that doesn't bother them because they just ignore it. And they won't cease doing it so until it comes to pass when they are all completely ignored by everyone else…as more and more are being ENLIGHTENED… and are CHALLENGING the old and fast-crumbling order of the pomp and circumstance of the royal hierarchy of the RCC, steeped in hypocrisy and sanctimony.

  • Platypus09

    CBCP will endorse political candidates and that is not going to change.

    Just watch, elecfions will be bloody.

    • frudo

      ok lang yun baka  di nman manalo na kasi di nman sumusunod na mga tao nila sa kanila. di na nga nanalo ang rh bill eh yun nlang ang tignan, pero sana nman wag mo panalangin na bloody ang election, gusto mo ba ng magulo? 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EOZMBB5MVRJMWVSMUIQFRF45F4 F

    another thing the church should seriously probe:

    is christianity in the philippines in a downward trend due to priests being involved in politics than
    doing what they should do like saving the souls? one example is a huge number of filipinos committing suicides this decade. are the people no longer afraid of God? what are the priests preoccupied with now? 4 x 4? dirty politics? i am a Roman Catholic who is very disappointed with the church people.

  • Jomex

    A more worthwhile news would be this: “CBCP conducted investigation and arrests of its pedophile priests.”

  • Platypus09

    The predominantly Catholic and economically-developed France and Germany have religious groups influence politics heavily. Why can’t we do it here in the Philippines?

    It is going to happen.

    • UrHONOR

      >>>Why can’t we do it here in the Philippines?<<<
      THERE are not enough FRENCH and GERMANS in the Philippines?

    • JaredAko

      Yah right. Germany 30 % catholic and thats dominant already? Lets see,  30 years great war in their past because of the corrupt roman church. Have you heard of Martin Luther 99 thesis?  and if they are indeed majority in the past then RC need to answer why Hitler become their leader. Wait, yeah the RC Pope back then choose silence instead of condeming the atrocity made by Hitler against the Jews then. France, in the past yeah (and how many of their wars were also caused/encouraged by religion?). 2007 poll, 5% regular church attendee. Check their policy on state and church separation,  laïcité. 
      God, wag nyo nang payagan mayapagpag ang mga inutil na CBCP. Tamaan nyo na sila nang kidlat kaagad. 

  • JOSE RIZAL

    plain and simple. KSP

  • mabyrik

    When GMA cheated FPJ in the 2004 presidential election, all the bishops can say was “Everyone cheats anyway”, then proceeded to clap and hailed GMA as the winner despite the massive evidences presented by FPJ. To the bishops, cheating was acceptable because “everybody cheats anyway”. 

    It also effectively sanctioned cheating as acceptable norm in winning in any election exercise and that cheating was no longer considered a a sin.

    It is now on record that the cheater whom the bishops blessed during the 2004 election is considered as the most corr upt president ever but still the bishops, because of the SUV and bribes they received from her, never said a word that her corru ption was destroying the nation but instead, continued to support her and bless her, up to this very day, confirming the people’s belief that CBCP and the bishops have distorted sense of decency and morality. 

    The bishops just ignored the tag “most cor rupt country in asia” earned during their patron’s regime and her being the most unpopular and hated president ever. 

    The bishops even blessed GMA’s top dog Corona in the hope of exonerating him in his impeachment. Unfortunately for the bishops, their blessings was the main reason why corona was convicted because we all know that “Someone Up There” can’t be bribed with SUV and money.

    Today, in the middle of the administration of the most popular and the cleanest president in a long, long time, the bishops are talking about “Cheating in election that may happen in this administration” but continually evading the cheating that happened during the “hello Garci” period. And yes, nobody listens to them anymore and we know why. 

    The bishops are now considered redundant and irrelevant and their statements like the above news report are mocked, ridiculed and laughed at. The RH bill was a proof. Corona’s conviction was a proof.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    CBCP meddling again.

  • Platypus09

    In our country, there is no such thing as a perfect honest elections.

    Whoever is powerful, he wins.

    Whether or not religious groups are involved, that is Philippine-style politics. If you think that it will change, keep on dreaming.

    Elections will be bloody.

  • Platypus09

    All religious groups are involved in everything we have in this country, not only Catholic leaders.

    If other churches are involved, why limit Catholic churches?

    Let’s all play politics, and see which religious group has the authority and power.

    • Agat Sumi

      but CBCP was silent during the corrupt administration of GMA.

  • UrHONOR

    ****TAX the CHURCH****  

    I’d work to death to campaign for President of the country anyone who could make this happen.  The whole nation, esp the poor (the church “claims” to be be assisting) will be greatly benefited from the proceeds of a potentially humongous piece of the obscene financial resources and fortune of the church that has been a free-loader for as long as can be remembered, and yet keeps on intruding into the affairs of the government rather the decaying affairs of its backyard.

    They want both god’s and Caesar’s.  AVARICE is a major vice….a CARDINAL SIN.  What can be more morally embarrassing than that?  Ops, forgot, PEDOPHILE is more embarrassing, just as STEALING and ILLEGAL TRADING….all,  BTW, are crimes.

  • $19291130

    Sana po pray na lang kayo ng pray at tumulong sa mga mahihirap.  Sana po wag na kayong makigulo sa politics lalo lang pong gumugulo…..Amen…

  • Platypus09

    Again, whatever you do, do it to all churches in the Philippines.

    If you tax churches, then all churches should be taxed.

    Let us see which church squeezes too much income from their church members.

    Plain and simple.

    • frudo

      iglesia ni manalo, quilboloy,at iba pang relihiyon   nagiging involve lang sila pag election dahil sa one vote policy nila pero ang catholic lahat halos pakikialaman rh bill divorce bill, at kung ano ano pa so sila no. 1  pero tama ka lahat na sila kuhanan ng tax  para fair.

  • w33k3nd3r

    You wanna help, CBCP? Give away all the friar lands back to the Philippines. They’re not yours to begin with.

  • Platypus09

    If other churches in the Philippines had been involved in our politics, why limit the involvement of Catholic church?

    If others play dirty, why others do otherwise? Everyone plays like everybody else.

    The playing field is open for everyone to play their games.

    Just be fair to everyone.

  • Bengatibo

    Bishop, why only now??? Bakit kasi pinapatulan pa nang MEDIA na ilagay ang bawat sabihin nang obispo sa diyaryo. The bishops can say all they want, huwag na lang sanang ilagay sa diyaryo!!! Hindi titigil ang mga obispo na sa tingin nila ay importante ang lahat nang sabihin nila. Pati ang mga sermon sa simbahan ilagay niyo na sa diyaryo para magkaloko-loko na ang Pilipinas!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XWH5SD6XPM3XKND6PJQQ32ZRAU Mabuhay

    Nakialam na naman wala namang alam kundi maningil sa kasal, binyag, patay,…etc.

  • Muhamad chan

    Bumabawi lang to sa administration ni Noynoy at naninuguradong di mananalo ang mga RH Bill supporters.

  • Platypus09

    Politics is part of our lives.

    Religion is part of politics. All Philippine churches do play politics.

  • LAMBFORGOVERNOR

    SEPARATION OF STATE AND CHURCH… ONLY WAY TO RUN A COUNTRY 

  • kabayandinako

    Are we still under Spanish inquisition that the Catholic Church bosses want to interfere with how the government are being run?

  • Platypus09

    Crap that separation of church and state.

    In this country, all churches do play politics. We all know that.

    That’s reality. Face it and deal with it.

  • gregory robinson

    The Catholic church is losing its control over the Philippine people, which they never should have had anyway. The Catholic church needs to gets its own house clean and in order, get rid of gays and pedofiles in the church, stop bribing politicians, get out into the community and really experience how poor and disadvantaged people live.

  • Platypus09

    You should target all churches in the Philippines, not only the Catholic church.

    Fair is fair. All churches do play politics.

    I have no problem with religion playing in Philippine politics.

    That’s what is going on. It will continue on more generations to come.

    Crap that idealistic notion. Politics Philippine style has its own nature and characteristics.

    • brunogiordano

      “I have no problem with religion playing in Philippine politics”

      GOOD!!!!

      At dapat wala ka rin sanang problema na batikusin ang religion nakikipaglaro sa politika.

      Fair is fair di ba????

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      I agree that we should target all other churches but let’s start with the Catholic Church that’s the most notorious.

  • Hey_Dudes

    If I am a leader bestowed by the Filipino people to serve the country for 6 years, I will ask the Catholic church hierarchy if they are truly interested in governing the country if only to provide evidence they alone can do a better job?  As a leader, I will task these bishops, since they can’t seem to prevent themselves meddling in government affairs, If any of the cardinals will be interested sitting as president aided by various priest and nuns acting cabinet secretaries?  I think this is one way to find out if these meddling clergy members are really good in what they preach, or like any others, are only good in spitting out their saliva pretending to have monopoly of things good.

    Tutal, tuloy tuloy pa rin ang panghihimasok sa gobierno bakit hindi natin ilagay sa gobierno ang mga yan kahit isang buwan lang at ng makita naman nating kung talagang meron alam sa palalakad sa gobierno?

    • Joel_Delano

      For 300 years ibinigay na sa kanila ang pamamahala ng gobyerno sa panahon ng mga Espanyol. Kinamkam lang nila ang mga lupain ng mga ninuno natin at naging mga haciendero ang mga kamag anak nila.   

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XWH5SD6XPM3XKND6PJQQ32ZRAU Mabuhay

    Divorce Law now na ! 92% plus na sa PDI survey ang “yes”. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Pabor ako sa RH Bill pero hindi ang Divorce.  Sa unang pagkakataon, kakampi ng Simbahang Katolika ang maraming ibang grupong Kristiyano tulad ng INK laban sa Divorce.  Mahirap maipasa iyan kumpara sa RH.

    • Guest

      A more serious survey gave a much smaller margin. If at all, only about 50% support divorce as of now.

  • turbogirl9

    dont probe waste of time, already cooked.

  • efffyoufools

    a week after the 2010 election, a whistleblower revealed a shocking confession that he was paid 1B pesos by the election funders of aquino and binay and had the comelec ordered recounting of the ballots, the people would have known the truth to the whistleblower’s confession. there was a witness to the rigging and is willing to speak up if aquino orders the continuation of the inquiry that he ordered shut down after he was sworn into office, the office that we knew was purchased for him for 500,000.

  • UrHONOR

    OLD DOGS are not easy to teach NEW TRICKS with.  Especially VERY OLD, SENILE DOGS.  DOGS with  GERMAN SHEPHERD strain, particularly.

    ERGO, let’s have patience in constantly teaching the OLD DOGS with new, modern tricks….. just like trickles of water would and could bore a hole on a slab of a thick stone.

  • frudo

    hindi nyo trabaho yan may comelec tayo mga pakialamero!!!

  • dickenhead

    hehehe ang mga priests & bishops talaga hindi matanggap na irrelevant na sila, pati trabaho ng gobyerno pinasukan na. Mayroon tayong mga ahensya ng gobyerno na maaaring magimbestiga dyan sa mag pandaraya sa botohan. Mga hayop talaga otng mga priest & bishops na ito sila ang sagabal sa pagunlad ng ating bansa

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Buti na lang wala na si Cardinal Sin at nagdurusa ngayon sa impiyerno.  Isa pang Sin iyan na walang tigil sa pakikialam sa gobyerno pero kinampihan ang numero unong magnanakaw na si GMA.

  • joerizal

    Dapat binoboto din natin ang mga pari, obispo at cardinal. Since nakikialam sila sa palakad ng taumbayan, dapat tayo ang pumipili sa kanila at hindi sila-sila lang ang nag-pipilian.

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    STOP DONATING YOUR MONEY TO THE  CORRUPT BISHOP..The Bank Investments Of Different Dioceses

    CARMEL OF THE DIVINE INFANT JESUS OF PRAGUE, INC. San Miguel Corp (SMC) 957,516 79th PHP105.33 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TUGUEGARAO San Miguel Corp (SMC) 856,639 81st PHP94.23 Million

    REAL MONASTERIO DE LA PURISIMA CONCEPCION DE NUESTRA MADRE SANTA CLARA DE MANILA San Miguel Corp (SMC) 809,834 83rd PHP89.08 Million

    SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION DE PADRES RECOLETOS POR BECAS Y VOCACIONES San Miguel Corp (SMC) 621,702 89th PHP68.39 Million
    CARMEL OF ST THERESE OF THE CHILD JESUS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 592,956 91st PHP65.23 Million

    THE DISCALCED CARMELITE NUNS OF CEBU San Miguel Corp (SMC) 451,864 95th PHP49.71 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF NUEVA SEGOVIA DE VIGAN San Miguel Corp (SMC) 428,067 98th PHP47.09 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA Philex Mining Corp (PX) 3,221,135 15th PHP66.68 Million

    RELIGIOUS OF THE VIRGIN MARY – B Philex Mining Corp (PX) 3,125,777 16th PHP64.70 Million

    RELIGIOUS OF THE VIRGIN MARY-A Philex Mining Corp (PX) 1,091,027 69th PHP22.58 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TUGUEGARAO Ayala Corporation (AC) 24,015 73rd PHP9.29 Million

    KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS FRATERNAL ASSOCIATION OF THE PHILS, INC. Ayala Corporation Preferred Shares – A (ACPA) 60,000 2nd PHP31.80 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TAGBILARAN Ayala Corporation Preferred Shares – B (ACPR) 10,000 64th PHP1.02 Million

    DAUGHTERS OF CHARITY OF ST. VINCENT DE PAUL PHINMA Corp. (PHN) 159,575 19th PHP2.12 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF THE DIOCESE OF JUAN DE DIOS PHINMA…

    • TUMBOKIN

      Where do you get your data?  These are serious allegations!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

        It’s nothing new.  Many huge lands were also grabbed by the Catholic Church since the Spanish time.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      I don’t see Monte de Piedad Bank which some Bishops including the late Cardinal Sin were stockholders.  Let’s include the many Catholic schools that are owned by the Catholic Church charging exorbitant tuition. 

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    STOP DONATING YOUR MONEY TO THE  CORRUPT BISHOP..
    The Bank Investments Of Different Dioceses

    Diocese / Church Foundation Company # Shares Owned Rank in Top 100 Total Investment Value

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 222,843,681 4th PHP12.724 Billion

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (REAL CASA DE MISERICORDIA) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 41,408,841 8th PHP2.364 Billion

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA (HOSPITAL DE SAN JUAN DE DIOS) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 22,072,182 13th PHP1.26 Billion

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (HOSPICIO DE SAN JOSE) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 6,016,624 15th PHP343.55 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (HOSP DE SA JUAN DE DIOS) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 4,285,572 17th PHP244.71 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (MAYORDOMIA DELA CATEDRAL) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 2,664,266 21st PHP152.13 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (ST. PAUL`S HOSPITAL) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 1,772,418 26th PHP101.21 Million

    CARMEL OF THE DIVINE INFANT JESUS OF PRAGUE, INC. Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 726,819 49th PHP41.50 Million

    EL SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION FILIPINA DE PADRES AGUSTINOS RECOLETOS Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 551,382 60th PHP31.48 Million
    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF JARO Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 491,385 64th PHP28.06 Million

    EL SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION FILIPINA DE PADRES AGUSTINOS RECOLETOS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 2,370,000 31st PHP260.70 Million

    SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION ARCHICOFRADIA DE N.P.J.N DE RECOLETOS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 1,234,603 75th PHP135.81 Million

  • brunogiordano

    Cebu Provincial Election Supervisor Lionel Marco Castillano vs Cebu Archbishop Jose Palma

    Sino ang dapat paniwalaan sa kanila?????

    Kung taga CBCP, mahirap ng paniwalaan ngayon.

    Marami silang kasinungaligan sinabi laban sa RH, kaya ano man sabihin ngayon ay di na dapat paniwalaan.

    Dahil may freedom of speech tayo, hayaan na lang natin silang magsisigaw ng WOLF! WOLF! WOLF!.

  • Platypus09

    That is just natural for all religious leaders to join in politics.

    That is not going to change.

    That is just plain politics, Philippine style.

  • $37644997

    Live and let Live,let the cbcp win this time after RH bill,I think it’s okay.

  • dcjordan15

    I think the CBCP should learn to shun away from too much politicking. Instead of making a probe on voting machines, it should have dealt with the abusive priests abusing children in the Catholic churches.

  • TUMBOKIN

    CBCP is way out of line here!
    It is not your job.  Let COMELEC , PNP or NBI deal with this.

  • Platypus09

    Who determines which group and who are out of line?

    Scrap that constitutional line.

    Realistically, all religions do play politics and influence government decision making. And we all know that.

    In our country, that is not going to change.

  • thenewpulahan

    Bishops: SHUUUUUUUUUUUT THHHHHHEEEEE F..CCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKK UPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!

    Don’t you get it? We don’t want you messing around with our politics!!!

  • Platypus09

    Politics in the Philippines has been tainted with religious influence nowadays, which is not new.

    All denominations are tugging as to who controls the government.

    May the powerful religious group win.

    That is the name of the game.

    • Guest

       ”Politics in the Philippines has been tainted with religious influence nowadays, which is not new.”

      Philippine politics has always been tainted with influence from the religious sector.

  • Fulpol

    CBCP is trying to find out if BS Aquino III cheated on last 2010 election.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6NV2NIE62WV3JGIGCBB7LFZBX4 generra

    Natalo kasi lahat ng corrupt, magnanakaw at manunuhol dahil sa PCOS machine.

  • brunogiordano

    “I, for one, can tell, or I will say I’m not ashamed to tell people that I also believe [the PCOS machine has defects]. It has to be examined and that is part of the agenda of the CBCP,” Palma said.

    PRESUMPTOUS!!!!

    Faith based at hindi FACT Based.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FKE56ZWNI2XKEVVLZQGRWG7WBI BURADOR—Phil. Voice

    CBCP has NOTHING to do with VOTING MACHINES—-It is  COMELEC TASK to DO this—————-CBCP wants to CORRUPT the next election—-

    • basyong

      if they will not voice concerns about this hocus pcos machines who the hell will be? you burador  ? e sa tono lang ng pananalita mo siguradong kasama ka sa mga naghohokus pcos sa halalan.pabayaan mo ang mga taong merong moralidad ang magsalita hindi katulad mong nabubuhay ng immoral ng dahil lang kay ricky carandang BWA HAHAHAHAHA

  • Platypus09

    Isn’t that corruption and cheating are part of politics?

    All religious groups do play politics. Thus, all religious leaders are guilty.

    What are we gonna do? Send them to jail?

    What a joke!

    Let the politics and religion work hand in hand, only here in the Philippines.

  • ODAPAIN

    this is horrible ,we dont involve ourselves when a the The Pope gets elected,and here  they are sticking their noses in PCOS machines.Do they have computerized voting when they elect the POPE.They should include in their meeting on how to help    those affected by PABLO,do you guys see any priest bless the dead in those mass graves ? They seem to be more political than spiritual.Lost faith in them to lead the faithful

  • bbguevara

    What evidence does Palma and Pimentel hold, to declare that the PCOS machines are defective? Is’nt this just a fishing expedition?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DFW5PTIGTXNRUX44FLV6LI5USM Bantay

    sa mga nambabastos sa CBCP,hintayin nyo ang KARMA! darating sa inyo yan! tandaan nyo!!! 

    • marionics

      Karma is action, and Vipaka, fruit or result, is its reaction.
      Just as every object is accompanied by a shadow, even so every volitional activity is inevitably accompanied by its due effect. Karma is like potential seed: Vipaka could be likened to the fruit arising from the tree – the effect or result. Anisamsa and Adinaya are the leaves, flowers and so forth that correspond to external differences such as health, sickness and poverty – these are inevitable consequences, which happen at the same time. Strictly speaking, both Karma and Vipaka pertain to the mind.
      As Karma may be good or bad, so may Vipaka, – the fruit – is good or bad. As Karma is mental so Vipaka is mental (of the mind). It is experienced as happiness, bliss, unhappiness or misery, according to the nature of the Karma seed. Anisamsa are the concomitant advantages – material things such as prosperity, health and longevity. When Vipaka’s concomitant material things are disadvantageous, they are known as Adinaya, full of wretchedness, and appear as poverty, ugliness, disease, short life-span and so forth.

  • GustoKoHappyKa

    Pwe! puro kayo defective pero di nyo naman sabihin kung ano ba talaga yung parte na defective!

    Sabihin nyo nalang ang totoo na hangang ngayon di nyo pa din alam kung paano dadayain yan dahil sa mabilis ang labas ng resulta at di nyo na maninipula…

    Kahit sino pwedeng sabihin computer eXpert sila..pero kahit tignan mo yan source code na yan hindi mo din maiintindihan kung walang documentation at kung paisa isa lang parte lang ang titignan…

    Unit Testing ang kailangan hindi yung magbabasa ng code…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ICYWMBS3YFLGCUKMKSNHBLP36E Entropia

    Nakialam na naman!!! E sarili nila hindi nila ma imbestiga. 

  • INQ_reader

    What’s worse than priests trying to be medical doctors who are supposed to be experts in contraceptives? The same priests who are trying to be computer experts.

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    The Catholic sex abuse cases are a series of convictions, trials and investigations into allegations of child sexual abuse crimes committed by Catholic priests and members of Roman Catholic orders against children as young as 3 years old with the majority between the ages of 11 and 14.

  • joshmale2004

    The CBCP’s involvement in Philippine politics is really doing them more harm than good. This is another example of how they want to established themselves as tyrants. Anyway, I can see that they are laying down the groundwork of claiming next year’s election to be rigged in favor of LP in case UNA’s candidates will be wiped out. UNA’s silence during the RH Bill can be interpereted as a signal that CBCP and UNA have aligned together against the current Administration. So para walang dahilan ang CBCP at UNA na nadaya sila sa 2013, pagbigyan na lang ng COMELEC ang request ng CBCP and allow private experts to prove the PCOS machine with all political parties as observers para walang makapagsabi na may dayaang nangyari sa mga matatalo next year.



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