RH BILL

Bishops: It ain’t over, not a KO

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CHURCH LOBBY Archbishop Ramos Arguelles holds a PC tablet as Bishops Teodoro Bacani and Honesto Ongtioco watch as they monitor the voting on second reading of the reproductive health bill on Wednesday night. JOAN BONDOC

It ain’t over yet.

Refusing to admit defeat, Catholic bishops on Thursday vowed to continue fighting the reproductive health (RH) bill after the House of Representatives voted 113-104 to approve the controversial measure.

Malolos Bishop Jose Oliveros and retired Lingayen Dagupan Archbishop Oscar Cruz likened the Church’s setback in the House to the defeat on Sunday of Sarangani Rep. Manny Pacquiao in the hands of Mexican boxer Juan Manuel Marquez.

But the bishops insisted that the House vote was not a “knockout” for the Church.

Some bishops were hopeful that the bill would be junked before it reached the third and final reading. “As Pacquiao would say, ‘the fight isn’t over,” Oliveros said.

Retired Novaliches Bishop Teodoro Bacani said there were still “two more rounds to go”—the bicameral conference committee and the vote on its report.

“We will see who gets the knockout punch. This has awakened a new consciousness in our people,” Bacani said.

The proposed legislation would come into force after the House and the Senate agree on a common version that would be signed into law by the President.

Cruz said there was a knockdown but not a knockout. “My admiration goes to those representatives who voted against the RH bill notwithstanding the political pressures and financial gain. That means a good number of our lawmakers still have a good conscience and conviction,” he added.

House Bill No. 4244 seeks to provide couples with information on reproductive health and access to contraceptives, and mandates sex education in school.

Cruz accused the Aquino administration of sowing disunity among the people by proposing the RH bill. The Church, he said, would continue to preach. “Whether the people will listen or not, that’s something else but the Church will not be acting like the infamous three monkeys who can see nothing, hear nothing and say nothing.”

The narrow victory that opponents said was shaky and could very well change in the third and final reading did not dampen the spirits of the bill’s supporters, who expressed optimism that their numbers would hold, if not increase, until the end.

In a nominal vote that lasted over five hours and ended in the little hours of Thursday, with 113 lawmakers in favor of the bill and 104 against it, 3 abstained and 62 were absent.

The nominal vote confirmed the results of the earlier “ayes” and “nays” voting in favor of the bill’s passage.

Reason over fanaticism

 

“Today, reason triumphed over fanaticism; logic over dogma; and hope over fear,” said the bill’s main sponsor, Albay Rep. Edcel Lagman.

Lagman said he would expect a wider margin  next time because many of the lawmakers absent during the vote were supporters of the measure. The third reading vote would be three days after the distribution of the printed copies of the bill to lawmakers.

But the opponents saw things differently, and vowed that the third reading would be another battle. Many lawmakers were not around during the second reading vote but could show up in the final phase, they said.

The third reading voting is usually uneventful, with debates already exhausted before the second reading vote, but it may not be the case now for the reproductive health bill.

No cause for celebration

“Definitely there’s no cause for celebration [for the proponents]; the fight was too close. Things can go our way the next time around,” Zambales Rep. Milagros Magsaysay said, referring to the third reading vote.

Magsaysay said the opponents were able to show in the second reading that the measure did not have the overwhelming support of the people.

“This will send a strong signal to Malacañang and to the people that this measure was not a majority decision of the people,” she said.

Cagayan de Oro Rep. Rufus Rodriguez scoffed at the results, saying the bill managed to win only by a slim margin despite administration stalwarts being present in the House throughout the proceedings.

 

Momentum

Rodriguez said the opponents would marshal all their forces and fight the bill’s passage during the third reading vote.

“So, we have the momentum at this time because imagine, there was only a nine-vote margin and all the only arsenal of government was here,” he said.

He was referring to the presence of Liberal Party stalwarts,  Interior Secretary Manuel Roxas and Budget Secretary Florencio Abad, who stayed in the lounge during the vote. Other administration officials such as Commission on Human Rights Chairperson Loretta Rosales and Presidential Adviser for Environmental Concerns Nereus Acosta  were seen on the floor.

Majority Leader Neptali Gonzales II and Lagman both said they expected a slim margin between the “yes” and the “no” votes on the bill.

Gonzales said the third reading vote would be important as it would show whether the bill’s victory in the second reading would be sustained. But he believed it would be difficult for lawmakers to change their position after the second reading.

Hard to change

“Now that the votes are recorded, it would be hard to change these,” he said.

He said the presence in the third reading vote of those who voted on second reading would be crucial. It was also important to know if those who didn’t show up on Wednesday would appear during the final vote.

Proponents of the measure knew the fight would be a close one based on the “thorough political mapping” they conducted. They did not want to reveal the numbers beforehand so as not to dishearten fellow supporters of the bill, Lagman said.

Surprise

If there was one surprise for him, said Lagman, it was the withdrawal of Cavite Rep. Jesus Crispin Remulla as coauthor of the bill and his abstention.

Remulla said he would just submit a written explanation of his position later.

Lagman surmised that Remulla withdrew his support for the measure because he did not get an amendment he had wanted pertaining to the automatic review and a sunset provision that Lagman said would have killed the bill prematurely.

Before the vote, Iloilo Rep. Augusto Syjuco also withdrew as coauthor of the bill and later voted against its approval.

Cebu, Bicol ‘no’ votes

Lawmakers from Cebu and the Bicol region were also among those staunchly against the bill.

Cebu Representatives Eduardo Gullas, Pablo Garcia, Pablo John Garcia and Benhur Salimbangon, along with Cebu City Rep. Rachel del Mar, all thumbed down the bill. Fellow Cebu lawmakers Ramon Durano, Gabriel Quisumbing and Tomas Osmeña were absent.

Also voting against the measure were lawmakers from the Bicol region—Al Francis Bichara of Albay, Arnulfo Fuentebella and Salvio Fortuno of Camarines Sur, Renato Unico and Elmer Panotes of Camarines Norte, Cesar Sarmiento of Catanduanes, Scott Lanete of Masbate and Deogracias Ramos of Sorsogon.

A good number of those who voted to kill the measure said it went against the teachings of the Catholic Church, including the value of life and human dignity.

Families split on vote

Among those who voted for the RH bill were Cagayan Rep. Jack Enrile, whose father, Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile, is a known opponent of the bill.

But blood or family ties do not necessarily translate into similar positions on the matter.

Lanao del Norte Rep. Imelda Dimaporo voted for the measure, but her daughter, Lanao del Norte Rep. Fatima Aliah Dimaporo thumbed it down.

Malabon Rep. Josephine Lacson Noel is an ardent supporter of the bill, while her husband, An Waray Rep. Florencio Noel, voted against it.

The nominal vote confirmed the earlier ruling of presiding officer Deputy Speaker Lorenzo Tañada III that during the voice vote, the “ayes” for the bill’s passage overpowered the “nays.”

Very close fight

But it was a very close fight until the end, with a last-minute rally of successive “no” votes narrowing the gap and putting many spectators in the gallery on the edge of their seats.

The announcement of the final vote was initially met with muted responses, since Tañada reminded the gallery not to show any emotion when he announces the results.

But after Tañada banged the gavel and adjourned the session, purple-clad supporters of the bill in the gallery erupted in cheers and applause, while its red-clad opponents in the audience quietly left the hall.

‘Tragic, unfortunate’

Manila Archbishop Luis Antonio Cardinal Tagle said the House decision was tragic and unfortunate.

“But we do not take it as a defeat of truth—for truth shall prevail, especially the truth about human life, marriage and the family,” Tagle said.

In a statement he issued before he left for Vietnam, Tagle called for “healing” after the heated debates over the proposed law while adding that the vote would spur the Church to work harder to defend the “sanctity of life.”

Parañaque Bishop Jesse Mercado said the Church may have lost the vote but the faithful should be more vigilant and responsive to the ways of the Holy Spirit.

Balanga Bishop Ruperto Santos said he would continue to inform the people about the dangers of the RH bill and to “pray harder for their enlightenment and be touched by God.”

Surigao Bishop Antonieto Cabajog said the vote was a “good wake-up call for the Church to really preach the Gospel in season and out of season.”

Maternal, infant health

 

Lagman said the passage on second reading of the bill was a “signal victory for Filipino women and children who will reap the benefits of improved maternal and infant health which the bill seeks to guarantee.”

He praised his colleagues who he said did not give in to intimidation from Catholic bishops in the session hall.

“They have indeed proven that the voice of the people is the voice of God,” he said.

“These legislators are truly the guardians of the peoples’ rights, health and sustainable development, and not centurions of the dominant church,” he later added.

He said supporters of the measure were victorious because of their “unshakable faith” in their cause to ensure that every child born was wanted, and that women should not die from mistimed, unplanned pregnancies.

Originally posted at 05:47 pm | Thursday, December 13, 2012

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  • brunogiordano

    “Bishops vow to continue fight vs RH bill”

    Kapaskuhan na.

    Sana iwaksi na ng mga OBISPO ng CBCP ang banta nilang pakikipagaway.

    Maligayang Pasko sa lahat.

  • brunogiordano

    “This division courtesy of Malacañang is perceived to go on with the filing of another controversial bill. The next in line is the divorce bill,” Cruz said.

    Tama!!! Isa iyan na matagal minimithi ng sambayanan Pilipino.

    Next year batas na rin iyan.

    • observer_din

      We’re waiting for IT… hahahaha

  • CyberPinoy

    These people dont know when to stop !!!

    Bakit po ba di nyo padin matanggap na approved na ng congress and RH, The
    majority has spoken bakit di nyo tangapin ang boses ng nakararami.  Mawalang galang na po kaso yan
    ang problema sa inyo pag hindi nasunod gusto nyo puro kayo reklamo ang panggugulo ginagamit nyo pa ang diyos.  
    THE CONGRESS HAS APPROVED RH BILL so accept the facts and move on..

  • El_Gran_Capitan

    Sige na payag na kami na you continue fighting the RH Bill, but at the end of the day, panalo pa rin ang RH Bill hehehhe

  • Hunter421

    The DULY ELECTED representatives of the People have spoken!! Stop your ranting and go back to the church or run for office. Catholic bishops: shut up and accept it!!

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    Priest who had sex with boys now tells how to smuggle ivory

    National Geographic‘s new issue exposes the ivory business, which has been hiding in plain sight since a worldwide trade ban was enacted in 1989. And a major player in the magazine’s story is a priest in the Philippines whom I wrote about in 2005 when investigating another global-trafficking phenomenon — the Catholic Church’s movement of sexual abuse suspects across international borders to escape justice.

    The priest, Monsignor Cristobal Garcia, is now quoted as explaining how to smuggle ivory into the United States: “Wrap it in old, stinky underwear and pour ketchup on it.” And if an icon won’t fit in a suitcase? Here’s how National Geographic‘s Bryan Christy summarizes Garcia’s advice: “I might get a certificate from the National Museum of the Philippines declaring my image to be antique, or I could get a carver to issue a paper declaring it to be imitation or alter the carving date to before the ivory ban.”

    Garcia also made provocative comments when I interviewed him about why he fled the U.S. in 1985. He admitted having sex with altar boys and supplying them with drugs

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    GlorIa Gift to Mitsubishop and Safari
     Butuan City Bishop Juan de Dios Pueblos, who received a Mitsubishi Montero, Bontoc-Lagawe Bishop Rodolfo Beltran (Nissan Pathfinder), Abra Bishop Leopoldo Jaucian (Mitsubishi Strada), Cotabato Archbishop Orlando Quevedo (Toyota Grandia Hi-Ace), Basilan Bishop Martin Jumoad (Mitsubishi Strada), Zamboanga Archbishop Romulo Valles (Toyota Grandia Hi-Ace); and Nueva Segovia Archbishop Ernesto Salgado (Isuzu Crosswind).

    • observer_din

      kaya nga they LOVE GLORIA eh.

  • dkgboy

    ‘Convenience over Morality’ ,sounds like SUV gifts from politicians.
    ‘Money over Principles’ ,It will be comforting to see that part of the12 billion church asset shared to people affected by these calamities.

  • just_anotherperson

    The Catholics will fight against the RH Bill, defend the Church and continue on to oppose those who voted for the RH Bill.

    Remember the LP during the next election.  They do not need the catholic vote so let us deny it to them.

    • Ivideo

      Oh! we will remember them so well…I am a catholic and I will surely give them my vote.

    • mad_as_Hamlet

      I really do not relish saying this, and pardon me,  but your post sounds more like the post of just_anotherBigot.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L6MQBKMGQQV3KGKY4HDYZ7ZZL4 anj

       Like Ivideo, I am a Catholic, I am pro-life, I will vote according to my conscience and re-elect my Congresswoman, who voted YES to the RH bill. As a Catholic, I hope you can be more charitable, more just and less self-righteous. God bless!

    • dickenhead

      catholic vote? what the hell is that?

    • observer_din

      HAHAHAHA, in your DREAMSSS!!!!!

  • READMENOW2011

    Jesus Christ left to his followers the authority. And the faithful should submit to that authority. Submission to authority is the essence of the message like the RH Bill Controversy. If the faithful simply neglect the authority, then they did not listen to Christ. That’s how simple it is. Luke 10:16 – Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever listens to you listens to me; whoever rejects you rejects me; and whoever rejects me rejects the one who sent me.”

    • pej1972

      Leave the Philippines and live in Vatican!!!!

    • observer_din

      Palagay mo si Christ ang naglagay sa mga PEDO and RAPISTs na pari? pati yung mga nanghingi ng sasakyan noong panahon ni Gloria? Akala ko mabait si Christ di pala.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FQQPZLNOMD2EBFTHSWOP6QGZWY Marshall

    sagad ang nararamdaman na pagkapahiya nitong mga malditang mga paring ito..sanay kase silang lahat ng kagustuhan nila sinusunod ng gobyerno…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5RY665FMVFJGKRRD6AHFOYAIEY Health Shop

      Huh?

    • observer_din

      pre mali termo mo, mga lalaki yun maldito dapat. O baka sabihin mo  mga ochoserang frogs? hehehe

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FKE56ZWNI2XKEVVLZQGRWG7WBI BURADOR—Phil. Voice

    BISHOPS vows to continue FIGHT for RH BILL?
    It is JUST LIKE—–DAMASSO BOWS to FIGHT the MODERN JOSE RIZAL of the Philippines—
    ———–THINK of that-?——— Catholic CLERGY

  • http://www.facebook.com/bel.puncia Bel Puncia

    mabuhay ang mga mamatay tao mabuhay ang mga corrupt malapit na kayong husgahan

    • observer_din

      sino huhusga? ikaw? sino pinatay ng RH? wag sarado ang isip,para ito sa kapakanan ng lahat. Wag kang mag-alala inaayos na daw ni lagman ang kasunod niyang panukala ang DIVORCE BILL. hahahaha

  • jinx

    Sabihin niyo sa akin kung hindi ito lantarang pakikialam ng mga obispong ito sa pamamalakad ng gobyerno…..nasa demokrasya tayo at dapat lang sumunod sa boses ng nakakarami. Bakit ayaw pa rin nilang tumigil? Kung patuloy pa rin pakikialam nila, dapat BUWISAN na ang Simbahang Katoliko!

  • Padre Agaton

    sa sambayanan pilipino na patuloy na binabalahura ang kanyang moralidad at pamilyang pilipino…kung di tayo kikilos, sino ang kikilos? kung di tayo lalaban, sino ang lalaban? kung hindi ngayon, kailan pa?

    tuloy ang laban at paninindigan, pro-life, pro-family. pro-god. no to rh.

    • Ben Smith

      (rolling eyes)

      • napali808

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    • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

      We’ve been fighting for 14 years. I was anti-RH then but I can’t say I fought for something when nothing happened 14 years later.

      • napali808

        What’s your point ?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YAU43R25CAHGNYPHE6HLAM3V6Y Benjamin

      ubo..ubo..ubo…sabay utot…pooooooooooottttttttt

    • pej1972

      lumaban kang mag isa mo!!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/W74GUWRQ74EH7VZQN6D5WOE6XM Michael

      Pader, walang binabaluhura, ikaw lang ang naniniwala sa konseptong pambabalahura ng RH bill ng pamilyang pilipino, pumunta ka naman ng fabella hospital? ang ginagawa ng pamahalaan natin ay population management, ano bang nagawa ng simbahan sa pamilyang pilipino? wala? andami nating corrupt na katoliko, maraming mahihirap ang may anak katoliko, andaming manloloko ng kapwa katoliko, taxi driver na may rosaryo sa estribo manloloko, chickboy na katoliko, si ramon revilla pader katoliko, si mang kanor katoliko, si george estregan katoliko. Ano bang nagawa nyo sa nakalipas ng tatlong siglo? wala? wala? Edsa? … tapos? wala? heheheh.. pader pader hwag po hehehehe

    • Rey Cabague

      Padre Agaton.. Pro Fetus ang mga anti RH Bill.. at hindi Pro Life ang daming bata ang namamatay sa gutom at kahirapan… may ginagawa ba ang simbahan sa mga batang ito? may nagagawa ba ang God na sinasabi mo? Tapos na ang paghahari ng simbahan tapos na ang angkan ni Padre Damaso! matatalino na ang Pilipino!

    • observer_din

      Tumulong ka muna sa mga namamalimos sa kalsada,pagaralin o kaya ay tanggapin ninyo ng libre sa ATENEO, LASALLE, MIRRIAM UST etc na mga paaralan ninyo ang mga anak ng mga mahihirap.
      At higit sa lahat turuan mo ang mga magulang nila na mag withdrawal pag nagtatalik para di madagdagan ang mga anak nila.

  • bellabtennis

    STOP IT! That’s what I wish the bishops would do. Accept that you cannot have your way all the time. Accept that people have brains and can think for themselves. Now go on and focus on something else like clearing your clergy of child molesters and what have yous.

  • mad_as_Hamlet

    The CBCP party-list deserves to be deleted forever and ever, Amen.  It is the oldest political dynasty in the country whose members are related by blood but only through the practice of vampirism. But of course the Bishops can run for Congress individually if they want to.  They can ask the Holy Spirit to make them speak in tongues, even in sign language, if they want to.  But, darn it, they should file their COCs first!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZBMFAWXTZIEKMYT2PEARJN35B4 Simeon

    Bishop na nangmolestiya ng batang lalaki sa Ameirca.

    PRIEST IN CENTRE OF A CATHOLIC STORM
    published by asingh on Thu, 10/04/2012 – 12:25 Msgr. Cristobal Garcia is one of the most prominent faces of the Catholic church in the Philippines. He oversees worship practices for an archdiocese of 3 million believers. He bears the baby Jesus’ image during annual ceremonies that draw thousands  into the streets. He led his cardinal’s advance team in Rome five years ago when Pope John Paul II declared a Filipino sainthood candidate to be blessed. Now the suspended senior Catholic priest faces a new scandal as law enforcement authorities launch an investigation into the smuggling of elephant ivory to feed a passion for religious icons in the deeply religious Philippines.The Vatican had quietly stripped Monsignor Cristobal Garcia of his positions in the Archdiocese of Cebu in June — but not made it public — over accusations that he molested altar boys in the United States 20 years ago. He denies the claims.Monsignor Garcia, who rose to prominence in the Philippines despite the sex allegations, has been implicated in the illegal trade of ivory in a new scandal that has rocked the Catholic Church, which has used icons made of ivory for centuries.A National Geographic magazine cover story identifies a Philippine Catholic priest accused of sexual abuse in the United States as fueling his country’s illegal trade in ivory.In the course of his research for the October issue, Bryan Christy learned that Msgr. Cristobal Garcia, director of worship for the archdiocese of Cebu, Philippines, had been accused of child sex abuse more than two decades ago but was still serving in priestly ministry, reported the Catholic News Service.The article highlights Garcia’s extensive ivory religious icon collection and quotes him giving tips on how to smuggle ivory into the Philippines. It also included details of the sexual abuse complaint against him from the 1980s, when he served as a Dominican priest in the archdiocese of Los Angeles. He was expelled from the Dominicans and returned to the Philippines.In a statement Sept. 26, the Cebu archdiocese said the Vatican had been looking into the sexual abuse complaints against Garcia “long before the (ivory trade) controversy erupted.”“I have also fulfilled the Holy See’s instructions regarding submission of documents and acting upon related consequences,” Cebu Archbishop Jose Palma said in the statement.At a news conference the same day, a diocesan official said the Vatican had ordered Garcia suspended from priestly ministry months ago while he is investigated on the charges.“Let it be made clear that the Church supports the ban on ivory as it is consistent with her doctrine on stewardship of creation,” the archbishop’s statement said. “The Church does not condone ivory smuggling or other illegal activities, although in the past, ivory was one of the materials used in the adornment of liturgical worship.”The Philippines is a signatory of the international Convention on International Trade of Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora, which means importing ivory to the country is illegal, according to Philippine Bureau of Customs Commissioner Rozzano Rufino Biazon. He explained that anything covered by CITES would have to comply with the country’s tariffs and customs code and violations could result in imprisonment of six years.“And depending on the item that’s being imported, applicable laws could bring further penalties to make those longer sentences,” said Biazon.There are also fines, but the bureau’s chief of staff of intelligence and investigations, Rainier Ragos, called them “minimal, much less than 100,000 Philippine pesos ($2,400 U.S.).” He said pending legislation in the Philippine congress would impose tougher smuggling fines.A 2011 Pachyderm Journal article said law enforcement on the ivory trade in the Philippines is “generally poor.”Palma said that religious items made of ivory in the Philippines pre-dated its ban on the trade imposed in 1990.In the National Geographic article, Christy wrote that the anteroom of Garcia’s walled compound is “a mini-museum dominated by large, glass-encased religious figures whose heads and hands are made of ivory: There is an ivory Our Lady of the Rosary holding an ivory Jesus in one, a near-life-size ivory Mother of the Good Shepherd seated beside an ivory Jesus in another. Next to  Garcia’s desk a solid ivory Christ hangs on a cross.”The article indicates religious practice — Catholic and Buddhist — is a driving force in the desire for ivory.Christy, who travelled multiple times to Asia for his story, told Catholic News Service in an interview: “In my experience, the devotion to ivory as a religious icon was strongest in the Philippines. In the other places, it was ivory investment even though the image was a religious image, there was … often a more shallow sort of link, whereas the Filipino collectors that I met truly were devoted.”From 1989 to 2011, more than 40,000 kg of ivory was seized in China, although National Geographic indicated that represents only a fraction of what gets through. The Philippines ranked fifth, at more than 11,000 kg.The struggle to eradicate ivory smuggling is a deadly one. National Geographic reported that in the first six months of this year, 23 poachers were killed in Kenya. As for casualties on the side of law enforcement in the same time frame, Christy told Catholic News Service that “in Kenya alone a half-dozen (rangers) have been killed, and you can spread that number across Africa. People are killed every year protecting the elephants.”Religious icons and statues are popular among Catholics in the Philippines and those made of pure ivory are among the most treasured.Many churches have ivory statues of baby Jesus or one of the saints celebrated during festivals.The Philippine media is reporting that many religious specialty shops across the country openly sell pure ivory icons.Monsignor Garcia, who is based in Talisay City in Cebu province, was expelled from the Dominican Order in 1986 over allegations he sexually abused boys in Los Angeles.But he has remained a priest in the Philippines, where he founded the Society of the Angel Peace and is chairman of the Archdiocese Commission on Worship. – Agencies 

  • cleoan

    Divorce bill.. yes please…

    • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

      Frankly, annulment here is like divorce… but only the one’s who can pay can have it done.

      • cleoan

        With divorce legalized, the right to financial support of the children is secured and the negligent parent can actually be penalized. And i think our society will be less patriarchal. Husbands and wives have equal access to a “remedy” to a dysfunctional/violent marriage. Husbands will think twice cheating on their wives and vice versa.

        Sent via Samsung Galaxy Note 2

      • Diepor

        You are correct.

      • Tonypogi

         Iyon lang mga mayayaman na puedeng magbigay sa simbahan ang nakakakuha ng annulment. Kahit hindi dapat ma-annul pinapayagan basta may pera.

    • observer_din

      kaya nga lalong natatakot ang mga ANTI kasi isusunod na daw yan.. mga ANTI lapit na divorce bill.. LAGOT KAYO!!!! hahahaha

    • filipinaskoh

      There is no divorce in our country and to PROPOSE it a  bill it will go through HARDSHIPS  and there are many Churches will go against it because that is clearly written in the bible:
       “WHAT GOD HAS JOINED TOGETHER, LET MAN NOT SEPARATE”
      Matthew 19:6 

      On the other hand those who can afford it they always OPT ANNULMENT-
      But for the poor – kadalasan hindi naman sila mga kasal eh! punta ka sa lugar ng mga squatter iba-iba ang mga nagiging asawa kasi maagang nagsisipagbuntis akala laro lang – kaya kailangan ang RHbill to educate this young girls. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TGSMKB6ZWYHH3GYXFHISXVSBHU Modesto

    the catholic bishops thru their cbcp are obviously, already abusing their so called authority and right to interfere and pressure congressmen not to vote with RH bill.,in the name of the catholic church.shame on them.they have still the hangover of their spanish predessessors that used christianity as a vehicle for spanish colonization of the philippines.
    our national hero dr.jose rizal,will be dissapointed if he rises again from his grave.the catholic hierarchy is still the same old hypocrites.the spanish catholic hierarchy was responsible and
    instrumental in the death of bro.jose rizal a master mason because of his noli me tangere,el filibusterismo  books that exposes the evils of the spanish friars

  • AntonioPeYangIII

    Good. 

    It will make it a lot easier to show the people just how backward, bigoted, and out-of-touch with reality these senile old coots are. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AYITA5V33GYZSLC3G37UCVNTKA Ben

    “That means a good number of our lawmakers still have a good conscience and conviction,” he added.

    …and so, congressmen will follow what is really being asked by their conscience…give justice to the poor by giving them information, and services to plan their family and help them by passing the RH bill. 50,000 people is just a drop of water in a bucket of 100 million people and rising….

    This is not about religion, but the quality of life of most Filipinos for fifty or one hundreds years from now.this is about the future of the next generation…..its about time we implement family planning. It is not easy to raise a child, add two its still fine, but more than 4 and higher when you can`t affrod to give a descent life for each kid will condemn them to a life of poverty and being depednent on others alms… and it is not fair at all to raise them in poverty due to ignorance and unprotected sex by their parents who will have do a back breaking work just to make ends meet of their family for their moments of desire. Someday, these children will rebel one way or another against their parents, against the government or church and even the society as a whole and question why do they have to eat once or twice only a day in order that the whole family will be able to eat…no brainer for their parents and government who needs to implement RH..and those who are anti RH probably their lives are comfortable enough already….and failed to see the consequences of too much children by a farmer or just a street sweeper`s meager income.

  • AntonioPeYangIII

    Dear bishops, 

    Stop using boxing metaphors. You obviously don’t practice the sport, you clearly don’t know the blood, sweat and tears that the training requires, and you CERTAINLY can’t throw a decent punch if your life depended on it. Bloody posers. 

  • mangtom

    Makapal talaga ang mukha nitong unggoy na obispo. Lalo kayong mapahiya kung ipagpatuloy ninyo yong kagaguhan ninyo. 

    Down with the CBCP. Dismantle the CBCP. Drop dead CBCP.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YAU43R25CAHGNYPHE6HLAM3V6Y Benjamin

      yung bishop Oscar Cruz sabi nya kaya daw maraming anak ang mga mahihirap walang ibang magawa kundi magsex..ito rin ang pari na nagbasbas kay Corona noong panahon ng impeachment mabuting tao raw si Corona..olat na naman si Cruz….

  • basilionisisa

    malalaman ngayon ng buong mundo kung bakit hindi umuunlad ang Pilipinas! Thanks to Catholic bishops and ignorant, self-appointed-moral-police laymen!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    These bishops cannot accept the truth that their lies are already blown wide open. In fact, they are the ones trying to divide the nation by spreading misinformation and intrigues.

    The eventual enactment of the RH law will validate that these bishops have indeed lost their dominion over the people, which is for the greater good of the country.

  • tarikan

    “This division courtesy of Malacañang is perceived to go on with the filing of another controversial bill. The next in line is the divorce bill,” Cruz said. For your info RETIRED (but very much active) Bishop Cruz, Italy, where Vatican city is located has a divorce law. If the RCC is really not comfortable in a place where there is a divorce law, why they can always relocate! 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3SHGRXPJCAF4OTQ673ARMKMYGE ricky sanoria

       Kabobohan na naman ito. Eh ano ngayon kung may divorce sa Italy? Una, magkahiwalay naman na state ang Italy at Vatican. For your education, ang Vatican ay walang divorce, obviously since ito ang center ng Catholic Church which does NOT allow divorce eversince. Pangalawa, gusto mo ba gaya ng gaya lang tayo sa ibang bansa? Eh legal ang prostitution sa Amsterdam. Gusto mo gayahin ito sa Pinas?  Sa U.S., legal ang abortion, gusto mo rin gayahin natin to?  Gusto mo ata talaga sirain ang moralidad ng bansa natin no?

      Tapos, gusto mo iparelocate ang simbahan??? Wow, in your dreams. The Catholic Church in the Philippines has existed for 400 years and is composed of more than 80% of our population.  Gusto mo ba irelocate ang 80% na ating kababayan sa ibang bansa??? Isama mo na rin paalisin ang ibang religious groups like Protestants at Iglesia ni Kristo na ayaw din ng divorce.  That makes 90% plus of Filipinos na gusto mong paalisin dito sa ating bansa.  Eh kayo na mga atheists, ilang percent kayo dito sa Pinas? Baka wala pang 1% ng population natin, tapos gusto nyo paalisin kaming mga 90% plus? Gusto nyo kayo ang mag hariharian sa Pinas?  Buti na lang we are a democratic country where majority rules and wins.  Maghintay ka muna maging 50% plus kayo dito sa Pinas, okay?

      For the meantime, since it will take so many years before atheism will be dominant in the Philippines, please consider relocating to U.S. or the rich European countries where mostly atheism is dominant, and where divorce is also legal.  I think you will be more happy and have MORE FUN in these countries.  God bless you! :D

      • observer_din

        pero galing lang sa ITALY ang vatican, saka maraming katoliko sa vatican, bat di ganun kung makialam ang mga bishop don, di ba sa ROME nakatira si PAPA, dapat mas malakas sila dahil nasa ITALY na mismo ang ROME, ibig bang sabihin mas open minded ang mga obispo doon at ang mga taga Pilipinas na lang ang makitid ang utak?

  • weeshfulThinker

    Malacañang is not causing the divide. The church is. How dare they pressure the congressman / woman. Who gave them the right to pressure the people with their views and their beliefs? The Philippines is a Catholic country (at least majority of the Filipinos) but we are not governed by the church. Majority of the Filipinos want to move forward. What the church is doing now, is the reason why lots and lots of people are leaving catholicism. Shame…

  • tarikan

    Malolos Bishop Jose Oliveros and retired Lingayen Dagupan Archbishop Oscar Cruz likened the Church’s setback in the House to the defeat on Sunday of Saranggani Rep. Manny Pacquiao suffered in the hands of Mexican boxer Juan Miguel Marquez. You can say whatever you want to say. A loss is a loss is a loss. Sa basketball sabi ng mga Pinoy “half shot lang daw ang ipinanalo ng kabila”. Kita mo kahit half shot (meaning halfway to the ring, nd umabot lol) talo pa rin. 

    • observer_din

      brod ang halfshot 1pnt ibig  sabihin non. :)

      • tarikan

        There’s no such thing as “half shot” in basketball. Sa Pinas laang yan. One point Oo merun. Sabi ko nga to describe the half shot, hindi umabot sa ring “half way ” laang. Peace.

      • observer_din

        ok, kasi ang half shot sa ming naglalaro ng street basketball 1 pnt, u got your point hope i got mine :)

  • Rolly257

    Lalu lang dumadami ang hindi naniniwala sa simbahang katoliko, dahil sa kasinungalingang ipinapahayag ng mga pare’t obispong ito.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/LJVSZRQ7PBVINM5F6LL2HRURKA Rinaanir

    The Vatican itself has RH bill. 1970’s pa. What are these Damasos trying to imply? That they are better than their counterparts in Vatican, morally speaking? *barfs*

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Abdul-Rashid/100004367910013 Abdul Rashid

       Reverse psycho sila. Habang they are really for RH Bill. Hindi lang na plantsa ang komisyon nila sa mga contaceptives.

    • observer_din

      Me divorce pa nga eh. hehehe

    • mang_empoy

      Correction: The Vatican has no RH Bill. Maybe it’s Italy you’re saying. The Vatican is an independent city/state from Italy.

      Lakas mong magpatama mali mali naman ang information mo.

  • pej1972

    House of Representatives and the Senate, LIBERATE Philippines from the Vatican NOW!!!!

  • hagakhak

    tama lang na ipasa na ang RH bill para yong mahirap pa sa daga ay marunong nang magkontrol kung ilan ang gusto nilang anak at para man lang kahit sa pagkain nila ay matustusan na ng husto.Itong mga anti-RH bill hindi mo man lang mabasa sa mga comments nila ang salitang kahirapan at population explosion. ang lagi nilang gusto na mangyayari ay job creation at anti-corruption lang. Ginagawa po ng gobyerno yan at ng mga pro RH lawmakers. Hindi yata nila masyadong napansin na taon-taon napakaraming college graduate na walang trabaho sa pinas.yong iba nagsipag-asawa nalang at nagkaanak at nagkaanak hanggang di na nila kayang pakainin mga anak nila.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/LJVSZRQ7PBVINM5F6LL2HRURKA Rinaanir

    If I know kagaya lang din ‘to nung mga naunang anti-RH protests dyan sa EDSA Shrine. Habang pawisan at ngawit ang mga tao sa labas kakahiyaw at kakabitbit ng mga streamer, nasa loob ng air-conditioned rooms ang mga Damaso, nagpapasarap.  *barfs*

  • pej1972

    Kapalmuks na Obispo na ihalintulad kay Pacquiao ang laban nila. Eh kung si Pacquiao nga tinalikuran kayo at yumakap sa ibang sekta. Mas honorable sa inyo si Pacquiao kasi he had humbly accepted his defeat and moved on, pero kayong mga obispo, talo na arogante pa!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

    eh kung ang satsat ng mga pari ay ginagamit sa pagtulong sa parokya nila o sa mga biktima ng kalamidad, baka sumama pa ako.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

    sa maliit na chapels sa probinsya, kapag nagmimisa ang pari, me stipend. kapag wala, wala ring misa…san ka pa. tapos eto sila makikialam sa hindi nila dapat pakialaman

  • Hfxwst

    Only women should be allowed to vote on the RH Bill.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/LJVSZRQ7PBVINM5F6LL2HRURKA Rinaanir

      Hindi naman. RH Bill is primarily about responsible parenthood. Hindi naman makakabuo ng baby sa kiskisan.

      • Hfxwst

        Mostly it is about a woman’s body, and giving women access to the tools they need. . . and it is mostly being debated about by men, and priests who are clueless about such things.

      • observer_din

        kasali din ang lalaki, kasi kami gagamit din kami ng condom. :)

    • observer_din

      hindi naman babae lang ang bubuhay sa pamilya nya eh. pero kung ganyan argumento mo dapat di makialam ang mga pari dahil mga lalaki sila?

  • rsanr

    mga damaso, bakit hindi ninyo banggitin na si Manny Pacquiao ay iniwan na ang relihiyon ninyo at marami pang iba?
     

    • observer_din

      di yata nila alam wala nang rosaryo si manny. heehehe

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/W74GUWRQ74EH7VZQN6D5WOE6XM Michael

    Pader, pumunta ka na ba ng fabella hospital? ang ginagawa ng pamahalaan natin ay population management, ano bang nagawa ng simbahan sa pamilyang pilipino? wala? andami nating corrupt na katoliko sa gubyerno, maraming mahihirap ang may anak mga katoliko, andaming manloloko ng kapwa ay katoliko, taxi driver na may rosaryo sa estribo manloloko, chickboy na katoliko, si ramon revilla pader katoliko, idol kong si mang kanor katoliko, idol kong si george estregan katoliko. Ano bang nagawa nyo sa nakalipas ng tatlong siglo? wala? wala? Edsa? … tapos? wala? heheheh.. so pader antagal tagal nyo na nangangaral bakit ganito pa rin yung mga pilipino. Asan po ang moralidad? etika? ano pong nangyari sa bayan natin? bakit po naging sakim ang pilipino sa kapangyarihan at materyal na bagay, naging makaelitista, walang pagmamahal sa bayan, kalikasan at sa kapwa? sarling interes at kamaganak lang ang nasaisip ano pong nangyari pader? Pader sa quiapo church nadukutan ako duon hehehe? bakit andaming kriminal duon? 

  • Diepor

    The bishops fight to stop this is comic. They dont understand the world,are very sceptical to progress and devolopment. The thing is that if parents dont get alot of kids then maybe they can send the ones they choose to have to school. With better education many people will start thinking for themself,to question things, then the church will lose their members.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Abdul-Rashid/100004367910013 Abdul Rashid

    Why can’t the Catholic Church accept defeat? When you are down stay down. Wala naman kayong strong stand against RH Bill. You are not united that is why. A house that is divided it cannot stand. The outcome of RH Bill will only show you are a weak institution. Quit your show? You are nothing but a whorish church.

  • floroy

    Di ko alam kung ano pinagmumulan ng katakot takot na galit ng mga taong nagco-comment sa tungkol sa Simbahang Katoliko at namumuno nito. Ako’y katoliko at alam kong may mga pagkukulang ang ilang mga pari  pero di lahat, may mga maaayos naman. Pare-pareho lang tayong mga tao, nagkakamali  at sa kabila nito tungkulin pa rin ng aming Simbahan na sabihin ang tama at mabuti gaya ng paglaban nito sa ‘evil’ na RH BILL. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/W74GUWRQ74EH7VZQN6D5WOE6XM Michael

      define evil? Is catholic inquisition evil? 

    • observer_din

      Kasi brod sila lang ang masyadong nakikialam sa pamamahala ng gobyerno natin, di ba malawakan ang nakawan sa kaban ng bayan noong panahon ni Gloria,  di ba lahat sila nanahimik,hindi lang nanahimik, napatunayan pa na tumanggap ng suhol galing ke Gloria, ngayon me batas para makatulong masulosyunan ang problema kokontra sila,dapat ba katuwaan yang mga yan? walang silang credibilty.Dahil marami sa kanila IMMORAL, mapang-abuso ng kabataan at kababaihan!

      • mang_empoy

        Anong nanahimik noong panahon ni Gloria? Marami pong mga Church leaders at groups ang nanawagan dati na bumaba siya sa pwesto. Marami ring nag-expose sa kanyang mga katiwalian sa gobyerno.

        Maghalungkat po kayo ng mga past news pati mga Church documents at makikita nyo ang mga factual proofs na hindi nanahimik ang Simbahan. 

      • observer_din

        Im referring to CBCP. Also your Carinal Rosales me narinig ka ba sa kanila?Kasi nga wala na silang boses andon na sila sa loob ng mga sasakyan na binigay ni Gloria nagpapasarap habang ang mga mamayan umiiyak na sa sobrang nakawang nangyayari sa gobyerno.Ang maingay lang naman noon si Fr. Robert Reyes saka si Cruz, huweteng pa pinaglalaban ni Cruz.Iba talaga nong buhay pa si Cardinal Sin.

    • napali808

       Wake up! I’m a catholic too, but the corrupt bishops/ priests preying on the people specially the young kids is not acceptable. Yes , they  are also humans, but they’re in a position of trust so they should resign and go to prison. As for the RH bill, don’t follow them blindly just take a moment and read the bill.

      • donsupremo

        @napali808:disqus 

        your concern about defective members of the Catholic church has no business in this Discussion… you’re out of line and out of Topic. 

        better edit your comment because it sounds extremely repugnant because your concern about the weaknesses of the Church has no business in a discussion about the matter at hand. Better take that manure somewhere else appropriate.

      • napali808

        Hey, what comes around goes around. All those repugnant stuff that your beloved bishops did; they get the same thing back. These wannabee spiritual leaders teach moral values to their flocks when they themselves don’t have any. Pathetic.

  • just_anotherperson

    Malakas ang boto ng Pro-RH sa facebook at microblog, pero sa totoong balota, mas sigurado ang boto ng Pro-Life. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/W74GUWRQ74EH7VZQN6D5WOE6XM Michael

      Kasi mas konti ang informed sa RH bill, mas madami tambay na katoliko at rumaraket hehehe

    • observer_din

      DREAM ON!!! hahaha

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/W74GUWRQ74EH7VZQN6D5WOE6XM Michael

      Oist just_anotherperson, nabasa mo na ba yung comment sa baba? tama na ang pag jujuts, di ka makakapag concentrate. Basahin mo ulit yung RH bill na walang tama. Oks?!

    • filipinaskoh

      Once it passed I am sure the Government will counteract the LIES being spread by the Bishops by advertisement about the ESSENCE AND TRUTH of RHbill.

      Let see then – the MORE filipinos will favor Rhbill.

  • filipinaskoh

    “Puerto Princesa Bishop Pedro D. Arigo said the vote was an as exercise of “money over principles, convenience over morality.”

    These BISHOPS are MISGUIDING AND MISLEADING the people.
    All they SOW is LIES AFTER LIES!

    “Parañaque Bishop Jesse Mercado said the Church may have lost the vote but the faithful should be “more vigilant and responsive to the ways of the Holy Spirit.”

    You BISHOPS should be the ONE to be “more vigilant and responsive to the ways of the Holy Spirit.”

    You are using GOD for your own purpose- you spread LIES about GOD!
    You are no any different from the PHARISEES in Jesus time – USING your CONTROL and Power over the people by making them IGNORANT.

    • TinimbangNgunitKulang

      The bishops will not admit it but to them this is a contest of pataasan ng ihi, palakihan ng ego. They will not admit that they have lost control of their used-to-be ignorant and subservient flock.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZVI3CGSFRRZLG3FWCX3U7CXLNU Jay-Z boi-1da

    What’s the difference between “pro-life” and “pro-birth”?

    At this point in time, anyone can still be free to answer that question correctly and logically. I don’t wanna wake up one day kung saan ipinagbabawal na ang ganyang (klaseng katanungan) sa tri-media at social media at pu-pwede kang kasuhan ng libelo at/o “Culpable Violation of the Constitution” *kuno* kapag nakamtam nina Padre Damaso at ng mga Mitsubishops ang kanilang mithiin beyond their anti-RH crusade!!!

    Trust me, it’s one of the WCS of the Chuch tyranny if they succeed in killing the RH bill.

  • Pablo316

    This is a very misplaced fight by the RCC; their boat is
    already sinking and their house is on fire and still they have the time to
    attend to such less important issue besetting its group.

    The most pressing issue that should be tackled by RCC is its
    spiritual shipwreck and nakedness. By totally deserting the guidance and
    teachings of the Bible – RCC has acted as a spiritual whore throughout the
    centuries with her going to bed with world powers and her many pagan teachings
    and practices. Yet with all such detestable things she has done, RCC still has
    the audacity to claim that she is the bride of Christ!

    To point out one specific concern for this church is its
    damning acceptance of an entity claiming to be the Mary the mother of the Lord
    Jesus Christ when all its apparitions, messages and teachings are all clearly
    demonic and antichrist in nature. Thus RCC should get rid of this very
    detestable belief, in fact out of the many deviating teachings of RCC, this
    Mary addiction is the most damning of all.

    Go back then to the Truth of the Bible RCC adherents
    while there is still time for you!

    • littlesoulxv

      Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women!!!  

      .

  • SAN

    Why cant the bishops see what the people really want? The bishops too have exerted all effort, to the extent of coercion and threats to the lawmakers. In my own circle, of professionals, all catholics, our informal poll results were 93-9, lopsided in favor of the RH bill.  Move on.

  • Ommm

    Dear Bishits…don’t you know when to STFU??

    Each time you open your mouth you alienate more followers…but i guess that’s  a good thing…keep talking this country needs more comedy!!

  • DonQuixoteDeRizal

    Calling The Vatican (From a Filipino Catholic)

    Look what our bishops are doing here in my country, interfering purely on secular issues.
    Please tell them to respect our constitution.
    Please tell them to back off.

  • ruben_bush

    the bishops should instead focus on protecting life in the areas hit by the supertyphoon, they should go to the poorest of the poor. the bishops should go there to compostela valley and show their compassion, charity, and solidarity.  mga hypocrito… if they are really pro-life, then give out all your church lands to the poor so that they will have life. open up your big churches and house the homeless, donate all your sunday collections to buy food for the poor.  be like Christ, be with the poor. walk with the poor,–wag na lang magsakay sa Pajero na bigay ni GMA.  Miss niyo na yung bayong bayong na pera ni GMA ano???? Mahiya naman kayo!!!!! 

  • AgnosticLeader

    losers… what’s the matter? prayers not enough? maybe you should try fasting this yuletide season (donate your precious food to the victims of typhoon pablo) or maybe you should sacrifice some oxen and goats.

    • mang_empoy

      Poor oxen and goats! It’s better to sacrifice you instead.

      • Garote

        I agree with you, sacrifice this agnostic but Satan worshiper, who is worth less in value than the oxen and goats.

      • AgnosticLeader

        great… you finally admitted that your god is a blood-thirsty monster that accepts human sacrifice. your god is evil. no wonder satan rebelled against your god.

      • mang_empoy

        I’m not admitting anything. We’ll just sacrifice you for the sake of it.
        You are an agnostic, right? I am just helping you find an answer whether God exists or not.

      • AgnosticLeader

        the mere suggestion that you are going to sacrifice me to your god is an admission itself. get over it. you and your god are evil. you are worst than the nazis. you call murdering someone for an experiment as helping others? your mind is twisted by your religion. 

      • AgnosticLeader

        the mere suggestion that you are going to sacrifice me to your god is an admission itself. get over it. you and your god are evil. you are worse than the nazis. you call murdering someone for an experiment as helping others? your mind is twisted by your religion

      • AgnosticLeader

        the mere suggestion that you are going to sacrifice me to your god is an admission itself. you and your god are evil. you are worse than the nazis. you call murdering someone for an experiment as helping others? your mind is twisted by your religion.

  • Rey Cabague

    tapos na ang paghahari ng simbahan… nagising na ang sambayanang pilipino sa pang aalipin ni padre damaso!

  • Marx Louis Wang

    Ngeeeekkk!!! Good conscience and conviction, daw??? Sa daming nagugutom at nagkakandahirap sa dami ng pinapakain, good conscience and conviction pa rin? 

    • mang_empoy

      Hindi naman porke nagugutom at nagkakandahirap ang isang tao kakalimutan na niyang magkaroon ng mabuting konsensya at katwiran sa tamang pamumuhay.

      So sinasabi mo okey lang maging walang hiya ang mga mahihirap kasi walang makain?

  • joshmale2004

    Dapat may mag remind sa kanila sa Art II, Sec 6 ng Constitution (The separation of State and Church shall be inviolable).  Our priests should accept that they belong to the Church and leave politics to the State. Plain and simple.What they are doing now is envading the State thru politics and starting to create chaos.

  • Marx Louis Wang

    The bishops should focus on improving livelihood thru food production, hindi ang pagpaparami para maraming kikitain sa collection during mass.

    • donsupremo

      what the Prelates should have done was to SELL THE PUBLIC a SOLUTION to a concern which the public perceived as a profoundly serious problem. Too many mouths and too little jobs.

      their debacle was selling a DENIAL (do not support the bill) which did not give Relief nor extend acceptable Solution to the above cited problem. 

      Entonces : the politicians saw the open window and thus Exploited it to the Heavens. 

      the public’s position is

      if you do not want me to support rh bill what can you give me in order to solve my concern here… over population

      faced with that Question the Catholic response was too bland weakly benign and inutile… That is why they lost. This is not a Marquez Lucky punch we’re talking about here… they saw this coming 14 years down-range and they did not give convincing work to plug this hole… this big elephant in the Living was bypassed as insignificant… thus they lost horribly and in the eyes of the suffering Filipinos they will loose again and perhaps after many years they can loose in the supreme court… unless they address a solution to the perceived problem instead of just complaining about the solution proffered to relieve people of the problem

  • donsupremo

    Even if these guys win in congress 
    there is still the Supreme Court… my bet is the SC will be the one to pass the bill

    get ready for that one… another 15 years getting “morgued up” in the courts the prelates will dribble this inside the courts till kingdom come… 

    this is “The Roman Catholic Church” you’re dealing with
    not just some puny big-joke preacher group….
    they have money and they have power that is why 
    they can make people sit up and listen…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/W74GUWRQ74EH7VZQN6D5WOE6XM Michael

      Nakup! hwag naman sana, pero kung kinakailangan pumunta sa kalye para mapaglaban ko naman kung ano ang tama para sa bayan gagawin ko. Bilang isang Pilipino at para sa bayan. 

      • donsupremo

        @yahoo-W74GUWRQ74EH7VZQN6D5WOE6XM:disqus 
        walang problema diyan

        ang sina sabi ko lang ay ang tina tawag na due process
        may political clout si Aquino. What Aquino wants He gets
        May pera at impluwensya ang Simbahan at may tina tawag 
        silang “Moral Acendancy” over the prudence of personal action…

        yan ang mag lalaro… 

        pero in a few years pag wala na si Aquino sa poder
        ewan kung ano na ang Timplada ng SC
        they will not be beholden to the next Administrations to come

        summing it all up > mahaba pa laban… pace your self you may not make it to the finish line… it’s a patience game… 

      • observer_din

        palagay ko di na hahaba yan, lalabas jan nakikialam ang supreme court sa co-equal niya sa gobyerno, di ba pantay lang sila ng kongreso at senado, pag pumasa na pareho sa 2 house yun tapos na laban. Batas na yun.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QBMYPCCPWL5IDWF55BTBVWSAE UPLB-2008-3****

        So you mean, the Supreme Court acted wrongly when it issued a TRO against the Cybercrime Act of 2012 inspite of it being ” Batas na yun” ?

      • ryan andres

        hate to agree with you bud, pero napakavalid nyang point mo.

    • TGIF_G

       Hehehe … wake up. This is such an important lesson to learn for the church in the Philippines. Welcome in the reality, welcome in the 21st century!

    • observer_din

      Tama me pag-asa pa sa SC, madami pang AJ na ipinuwesto si Gloria don.
      Oh before I forget I like your comment that the “puny big-joke preacher group” had money .. saan kaya nila nakuha yun? bat di nila tulungan ang mga nagkalat na katoliko sa kalsada para mamalimos?

  • Hey_Dudes

    These hypocrite bishops just could not accept their influence and hold over  the catholic masses have been waning with their constant meddling ways in government affairs being the major reason why Catholics are greatly turned off.

    These bishops, if indeed truly sincere doing their work as christian guardians, they should duplicate what the Glyde Church in San Francisco and similar church and charitable institutions spread throughout the United States of America in regularly feeding of the sick, homeless and other marginalized section of society.

    These hypocrite bishops and priest act like they are bullies without knowing they are becoming more and more like castaways in spite their glitters and fabulous churches.  It is time these rascals be put where they belong – in churches not in congress.

  • joerizal

    Hoy mga pari, bago kayo mag-vow na labanan ang bill, tuparin niyo muna yung promise niyo ng celibacy, poverty at obedience. Laging kontra sa promises niyo ang ginagawa niyo. Ang pinapakita niyo lagi ay vows to get rich, get laid and get high. 

  • To_Be_Continued

    The message is very loud and very clear…

    The passage of the RH Bill on second reading will NOT ONLY give “the national government the mandate to make reproductive health services accessible to poor families through information and education and the provision of free contraceptives.”

    Most importantly, the passage is a clear denounciation of the PADRE DAMASO culture espoused by the Catholic heirarchy for decades. The sword of Damocles which has been hanging for 14 years has finally been swung to cut the cord that previously shackled us to religious teachings based on fear and the wrath of hell.

  • sinagbayan

    The Catholic Church has no moral right and standing to preach about responsible parenthood when its ranks are single men who live pretty secure and comfortable lives. Besides, they can’t even discipline priests who molest children, who maintain mistresses, who gamble in the most seedy of places. The history itself of the church speaks of immorality and corruption.

    Ang Pilipinas ay hindi pag-aari ng kahit ninong simbahan o pananampalataya, tayo ay isang republika. Iyan ang dapat ipaglaban nating mga Filipino.

  • TGIF_G

    A pity I am not there. I would rally with them and distribute tons of condoms for free and sing with them “Always look on the bright side of life …” ;-)))

  • pepito gwaps

    You cannot put the church down because so many bright Filipinos are within their organization. This is one of the reasons why our our country cannot progress because many of our brightest men join the rank of the clergies, some of them go for soldiery and some preffered to work abroad and migrate. So what we see now is what we get.

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

      but apparently, the jesuits, and all other learned part of the RCC favor RH.

      truth is, the RCC is divided.

  • joshmale2004

    Pinapakita lang ng simbahang katoliko ang hindi maka Diyos na mukha nila.Akala siguro nila wala nang ibang religion sa bansa natin. Lumalabas, mas maka Diyos ang mga ibang religion dahil ni rerespeto nila ang Estado ayon sa ting Constitution (Art. II, Sec. 6).

  • napali808

    As expected these freeloading bishops will not accept defeat, cause they have HUGE ego. If they accept defeat they would be just like us. They have this twisted belief that they have a divine calling to manipulate and exploit us. When you suffer you are drawn to them that is when they work on you by promising to pray for you in return for your blind loyalty. If the RH bill fails there will be more sufferings and that’s exactly what they want. When the bishops/priests say that they will PRAY for you, they actually mean that they will PREY on you. As we all know that our economy is getting stronger, the passing of the RH bill is a part of this whole process of change for the better. We should all be united and help pass the RH bill.

  • Lapu Lapu

    BISHOPS WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT DAW. HAHAHAHA
    If they are against the bill, they should get married and reproduce..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    ganyan talaga si bishop oscar cruz kapal ng muka matapos matanggal sa puwesto best fren niya si corona at natapalan muka niya ng pera pag masdan mo pag mumuka bishop oscar cruz na yan mukang galunggong pag mumuka”hypocrite” bakit di ninyo kunin ang batang namamalimos hubot hubad sa karsada at papasukin sa catholic private school libreng baon tingnan mo kung ano isasagot ni carnival tagle para na ka drugs ang mga mitsubishop na ito tingnan mo ginawa ni mayor atienza obispo yan sa maynila lalo na dun sa mahihirap na di mapag patali sa center walang pera inabot ng 13 anak yan ba ay may kaluluwa pa o gawain ng demonyo yan type mo sa you tube mayor atienza aborzionist makikita mo gawain ng diyablo”’ maawa ka talaga” salot ang mga OBISPO pilipinas” ibabaon ka niyan sa kahirapan”

  • mang_empoy

    Mangtom, sigurado ako drop dead ka na pero may CBCP pa.

  • Garote

    I’m happy to know that there are 104 lawmakers who are true servants of God and of the Filipino people.We now know also those who are the  traitors, the “pharma-cchio” (pharmaceutical pinocchio). of multi-million pharmaceutical companies, who are protecting interests of these foreign companies– the 113 shameless, thick faced puppets called “pharma-cchio.”

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

      name calling never will solve anything.

      time to man up and accept that the people have spoken, regardless of what any one religion’s morality.

      • Garote

        What? The people have spoken my butt. There was no referendum or plebiscite held, how could you say that the people have spoken. The vote in congress is not the voice of the people, but the voice of the pharmaceutical lobby money.

        You say name calling? Who have been calling the priests and bishops Fr. Damasos, pedophiles, Pharisees, etc. Why don’t you take what you’ve said and shove it up your throat.

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        “What? The people have spoken my butt. There was no referendum or plebiscite held, how could you say that the people have spoken.”

        Good question. How do I answer that?

        Probably the fundamental description of our (representative) Democracy, wherein the people actually vote for someone to represent them in all matters of state decision.

        I remember an old professor drilling us this basics. He said that the very power of the people to make laws is surrendered to the representative of the people, and once that is done, the only recourse is to convince your representative if you have a different view of a proposed law, and not that it would be taken into consideration, but it would be the consideration of all constituents being represented.

        Go ask your butt, perhaps it knows more.

        “Who have been calling the priests and bishops Fr. Damasos, pedophiles, Pharisees, etc.”

        And so, if others are doing it, you do it as well?

        Do you happen to know that that isn’t right, yet you justify doing it simply because others are doing it. Is that how mature people act on a public forum?

        Is that the way your parents raised you? Were you raised in a barn, if I may ask?

        “Why don’t you take what you’ve said and shove it up your throat.”

        Relax, as they say, chillax, sit down and have a cup of shüt the fück up, and make me.

      • Garote

        What? The power  to make laws is “surrendered” to the congressmen? Do you and professor know what you are talking about? What you are saying  is that the people have relinquished it’s sovereignty power to the congressmen, and in effect the congressmen become sovereign themselves. We no longer are a republic but a fascist country. Your professor and you must have no doubt been talking with your smelly butts. Bwahahahaha

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        “What? The power to make laws is “surrendered” to the congressmen? Do you and professor know what you are talking about?”

        Clearly, you do not know what you are talking about.

        Some people are elected to make laws, and that is their job. Your ability to create law lies on your ability to convince your congressman to file the necessary bills. Perhaps that is why they are called ‘Representatives’ or the House of Representatives, or Representatives of the People.

        ” What you are saying is that the people have relinquished it’s sovereignty power to the congressmen, and in effect the congressmen become sovereign themselves. We no longer are a republic but a fascist country.”

        What are you talking about?

        The power to create laws lies on the legislative. They can make laws but without the executive, NO ONE WILL ENACT THE LAWS.

        The power to interpret the laws lies on the judiciary. They can interpret whether an action is within the context of the law, or if the law itself is contradicting or defective in any way.

        How can the congressmen be dictators when it clearly states their limitation within the constitution?

        And just for your information, a legal dictator is one who controls all branches of the government, namely, Executive, Judiciary and the Legislative.

        Perhaps you should consult with your butt again, since it has better sense of government? After all,your shît seems to flow backwards on your end it has created a pool where your brain used to be.

      • Garote

        You are not even engaged in a legal gobbledygook. What you have there is an illogical, non-legal garbage. You’re putting legal terminologies in the wrong places to impress us you know the law. In your attempt to do so, you have just shown us your ignorance in the law. You are not even a 1st year law student, the way you write. In short, you just pretend you know the law.  Assh_le!

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        Really, then show me where I erred.

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        Let me make it easy for you. Tell me which one you feel is erroneous.

        1.very power of the people to make laws is surrendered to the representative of the people, and once that is done, the only recourse is to convince your representative if you have a different view of a proposed law, and not that it would be taken into consideration, but it would be the consideration of all constituents being represented.

        2 Your ability to create law lies on your ability to convince your congressman to file the necessary bills. Perhaps that is why they are called ‘Representatives’ or the House of Representatives, or Representatives of the People.

        3.The power to create laws lies on the legislative.

        4.The power to interpret the laws lies on the judiciary.

        I reviewed my Grade 3 child in Sibika last night, and this was one of their topics for review, and we discussed it with gusto. It seems that even grade 3 students are even more knowledgeable in government than some people.

      • Garote

        Let your Grade 3 child blog here next time on what the Sibika book has written about the law. The child might do a better job explaining what the constitution has stated than the father. Bwahahahahaha

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        I agree, perhaps the Grade 3 child will have a better understanding of the law. Certainly you haven’t even explained which seems to be erroneous or not, not that I expect you to answer.

      • Garote

        Your Grade 3 child may point out to you your errors if you ask the child, Bwahahahahaha

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        Is that because you cant?

        Let me point out some of your errors, just for clarity.

        1.the power to make laws is “surrendered” to the congressmen?

        Yes. it is their job to make laws. Being our reps, we leave it up to them TO DO THEIR JOBS. We, the constituents let our wishes known during by meetings with our congressman, which is one of many ways bills are initiated.

        2.What you are saying is that the people have relinquished it’s sovereignty power to the congressmen, and in effect the congressmen become sovereign themselves.

        Hmmmm. That is faulty in a way since our sovereignty is to the country not to a group of people who makes laws, and are NOT ABLE TO IMPLEMENT IT.

        3.We no longer are a republic but a fascist country.

        True, but did you know that congress has the ability to declare war on other countries?

        I pointed out my statements waiting for you to tell me which ones are erroneous. I also pointed out your statements which are erroneous. I call you do not know enough, or coward enough to respond with intelligible rebuttals to defend your position.

        I shall await your response, but frankly, your responses have been nothing worth responding to, and so, i won’t hold my breath as your butt thinks of a suitable reply.

    • ryan andres

      Now that you’ve lost, why are you resorting to name calling? Is that what your church has taught you?

    • joshmale2004

      Hindi lang pala sa mga politiko ang nagsasabing nadaya sila kaya natalo. Pati pala sa religion. It’s easy to throw accusations at an adversary but without any proof, this just go down as hearsay.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

      104 lawmakers who are true servants of that 85-year-old Virgin 10,000 miles away.

    • Ganymede

      Since maka Disos ka rin lang kuno, ito basahin mo, sabi ni Pope:

      Two groups, opposites of the fence.
      One is PRO-RH, the other was against.

      Both prayed for guidance, a miracle, or intervention.But only one got their wish, the other got rejection.

      So when the Bill passed on second readingMany cried “at last!”, but it got me thinking…

      Of the hundred thirteen who voted to approvethere was ONE MORE! they need to include.

      Because if all things happen according to His Will,
      then God also voted, He said YES! to RH Bill.

    • PurpleDaisy13

      re: “104 lawmakers who are true servants of God and of the Filipino people.”

      Lawmakers were NOT put in such position to be servants of some god.

      Lawmakers ARE put in such position to be servants of the Filipino People of a Democratic rulership, NOT some god’s rulership.

  • To_Be_Continued

    +++ Bishop Jose Oliveros and retired Lingayen Dagupan Archbishop Oscar Cruz likened the Church’s setback in the House to the defeat of Manny Pacquiao in the hands of Marquez.
    ****What a “spiritually enriching” parallelism (pun intended).

    +++ Oliveros also said: “That means a good number of our lawmakers still have a good conscience and conviction.”
    **** Oh! So Bishop Oliveros believes that those lawmakers who disagreed with the Church have no conscience and conviction. So name-calling is now the prelates’ approach in winning the hearts of a non-believer—instead of preaching the word of God?
     
    +++ Bishop Cruz said: “The Church will continue to preach… the Church will not be acting like the infamous three monkeys who can see nothing, hear nothing, and say nothing.”
    **** Is Cruz talking about the RH Bill? He sounds like talking about the Church’s monkey-no-see, monkey-no-hear, monkey-no-say handling of priests involved in phedophilia, sexual abuse of sacristans, sexual abuse on the opposite sex.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS KATOLIBAN AND CARNIVAL TAGLE EXTREMIST TERRORIST”’

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS KATOLIBAN YES TO LIFE REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES””

  • Garote

    What’s historic in the passage of the RH bill? Is it historic because our lawmakers show themselves to be string-puppets of the multimillion pharmaceutical companies? Historic because we the Filipinos are now certified murderers of unborn babies and helpless mothers? Historic because our lawmakers have fooled again the uneducated and poor? Historic because we let the abortionist groups, who financed the passage of the RH bill, win? Historic because our lawmakers have budgeted our own money of  14 billion pesos yearly to kill Filipino mothers and babies by cancer-causing pills?   Historic because evil triumphs over good? Oh come on. who are you kidding with your rhetorics which are empty words, but deadly because they thirst after the blood of the innocent!

    • reddfrog

      Bla bla bla….blah blah…… Bla bla bla… Long-winded but ultimately empty.

      • Garote

        Reddfrog, I will teach you . . .say BAH, BAH, BAH . . .  imagine how a
        sheep sounds . . . okey. Anyway you think like a “SHEEPO” of the
        gloabalist bankers and pharmaceutical companies. . .you’re too dumb to
        realize you and the rest of the pro RH bill supporters are being lad to the
        slaughter house for the killing. Typical idiots of the globalists, you and the rest are!

      • bydasea

        Blind Fool. You’re such a piece of Sh*t. Go F**k your brains out loser!

      • Garote

        I am pretty you cannot advice yourself to F**k your brains out because don’t have one. Hehehehehehehe

  • mang_empoy

    Cleoan, no to divorce! Sisirain lang niyan ang mga pamilya!

    Sumubo ka ng kanin tapos basta ka lang luluwa? Nasaan na ang Filipino values natin?
    Kung may alitan sa pamilya, daanin sa maayos na pag-uusap at piliting isalba ang pwede pang ayusin hindi yong aapila kaagad ng diborsyo.

    • pepito gwaps

      Pano yong naanakan ng iba. Imagine yong asawa mo anakan ng iba parang buhay na mapait ni kuya eddie..??? Pano yon???

      • mang_empoy

        Eh paano naman yung mga gusto lang ng divorce kasi sawa na sa asawa at gusto lang anakan ang iba? Paano yon? Ang daming ganyan… look at the Western Culture na pinagpipitagan ang divorce. Ganon ba ang gusto mo mangyari sa atin?

      • reddfrog

        Ano naman ang pakialam mo kung ano ang gusto ng ibang tao? Why are you ramming your morality down other people’s throat? Superior ba ang tingin mo sa sarili mo?

      • pepito gwaps

        Hatiin ang pag aari ng 70% and 30%. Maliit lang porsyento ng wealth ang mapupunta sa magyaya ng divorce. 70% don sa maiiwan kaya lugi ang mahilig mang iwan. Madali lang yan at may paraan. Kawawa naman yong pinagtaksilan at wala na silang option kundi ang annulment na insanity lang ang laging pdng idahilan.Ewan ko na lang kung may magyayang makipag divorce na hindi seryoso.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    the ratio show how widespread ignorant people we voted in congress…..ang mga pro rh bill ay huwag na natin i boto ang mga iyan….pabigat sa lipunan ang mga iyan !!! 
    Isanama na ang pag kibit balikat natin sa Pinoy Administration…Bahala na sila !!!

    • Ganymede

      Fool! Napakignan mo ba explanation ng mga Anti-RH nun nominal voting? Mga walang kwenta. Yun ang hindi dapat binoboto.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

        estupido !!!..hindi mo ba alam na meron ng PopCom…at mandated ang DoH para isulong ang FP Program ng Pinas ? Annually may funding na sila,di ba ?
        RH Bill is redundant,will you !!!

      • reddfrog

        Loser crybaby.

  • flip1sba

    The RH is more an issue of whether our government strong enough to show that there is separation between The Chuch and The State.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4NDRNR4NH2Q4EXS7TMWEEAUWGE Pope

    Who is really on the side of good?

    Two groups, opposites of the fence.
    One is PRO-RH, the other was against.

    Both prayed for guidance, a miracle, or intervention.
    But only one got their wish, the other got rejection.

    So when the Bill passed on second reading
    Many cried “at last!”, but it got me thinking…

    Of the hundred thirteen who voted to approve
    there was ONE MORE! they need to include.

    Because if all things happen according to His Will,
    then God also voted, He said YES! to RH Bill.

    • Ganymede

      True! Sabi nga ni Rufus Rodriguez, they will surely win because yesterday (12/12) is the feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe. But it seems that Our Lady is PRO RH. She’s a woman afterall. :)

      • filipinaskoh

        you’re right!

      • http://twitter.com/drachir888 Drachir Metal

         FANATICISM NGA.

    • speaksoftlylove

      Eat your heart out. Partida na kay PNoy yang second reading. Itold you, the RH bill is kaput, dead, gone and destined to be archived until Kingdom Come. Humirit ka pa!

  • To_Be_Continued

    +++ Cotabato Auxiliary Bishop Jose Colin Bagaforo: “I urge President Aquino to abandon the RH bill and focus on nation-building instead. Let’s focus all our resources in…fighting corruption.”
    **** How the heck can a church preach against and fight corruption when that same church does not practice transparency and accountability on its collections from the faithful? Where did the church got its moral authority to demand accountability on politicians when the same church believes the public has no right to check its financial dealings, transactions and income! Is this the church of God or the Church of hypocrites?!?!

    +++ Marbel Bishop Dinualdo Gutierrez praised the 104 lawmakers who voted against the RH bill and said those who voted for the measure apparently “did not grow in their faith.”
    **** What a bunch of cry coneheads.

    • reddfrog

      And they vowed undying support and loyalty to the previous dwarf President as long as they get their SUVs. Talk about fighting corruption!

  • To_Be_Continued

    +++ Retired Novaliches Bishop Teodoro Bacani said: “This (passing of the RH Bill on the second reading) has awakened a new consciousness in our people.”
    *** True, the people has been awakened with a new consciousness—the consciousness of being liberated for not believing in everything the church stands for knowing it is not the church that suffers but themselves.

    +++ Parañaque Bishop Jesse Mercado said: “Church may have lost the vote but the faithful should be “more vigilant and responsive to the ways of the Holy Spirit.”
    ****  Oh I see, holding  political mass actions is now considered one of the ways of the “Holy Spirit.”

    +++ Puerto Princesa Bishop Pedro D. Arigo said: “The vote was an as exercise of “money over principles, convenience over morality.”
    **** Isn’t charging the faithful with socialized fees (first class, second class and third class) for baptism, wedding, blessing of the dead an exercise of “money over biblical doctrines, convenience over morality? Dude walk the talk !!!  Live by example!!! Give to Ceasar what is for Ceaser, you hypocrites !!!

    • reddfrog

      These pompous moralizing are only for the masses. Since bishops and priests consider themselves demi-gods, they see themselves as above and beyond moral laws for mere mortals. In other words, exempted sila kasi sila lang ang anak ng Diyos.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WOEVGLWR5UCABE2ZXEY4SO2LUY Antonio De dios

    Mapapakain kaya ng simbahan ang mga batang accidenteng isisilang sa kahirapan, babayaran b ng simbahan ang ospital ng mga manganganak, kaya ba nilang pondohan ang Fabella Hospital? Tao lng tayo may mga libog LETS FACE IT!

    • http://twitter.com/drachir888 Drachir Metal

       sabi  nga nila, sa US abala ang mga pari sa pagpapakain at pagtutulong ng mahihirap and spreading the word of God. Dito sa pinas, iba, pakialamero mga pari.

  • ryan andres

    lahat naman ng talunan ganyan parati sinasabi eh… vow to continue the fight, etc.

    Hirap sa mga damasong eto ang taas ng ihi, di maadmit sa sarili na olats na… ano tawag dun? Di ba PRIDE yun?

    Di ba ang PRIDE eh one of the 7 “deadly sins” ng mga katoliko?

    deadly nga…

  • $37644997

    To all catholics,you’re just wasting your time.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FQQPZLNOMD2EBFTHSWOP6QGZWY Marshall

    SA PAGMUMUKHA PA LANG NI TAGLE,,AKALA NYA POGI SYA…DIMONYO RIN YAN……..PAG BINALATAN MO ANG MUKHA NYAN LALABAS ANG KAIMPAKTOHAN NYAN,,,,

  • tiriring

    Hoy mga obispo bakit ayaw nyo ng condom?
    di ba nagpupuwetan kayo? marumi yan ha…..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

      LOL butt TRUE!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    safe sa lugar namin sa Cebu dahil our Congressmen voted a big NO…..at least contented ako.

    • filipinaskoh

      You mean hindi kayo tatamaan ng bagyo, landslide at baha? OK!

      tatamaan namna pala kayo ng lindol! hahahaha!

    • cute79

      hahaha ntwa ako sa sinabi mo ha!hahaha

  • tiriring

    Aba naka sotana pa itong mga pare na ito.  ano ba yan?
    parang mga babae ang itsura…. 
    ano ba mga bakla kayo? hoy, ituwid nga nyo ang pananamit nyo!
    gusto nyo ciguro marape ha…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

    “bring it on” if u r ready to commit religious suicide !!!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4NDRNR4NH2Q4EXS7TMWEEAUWGE Pope

    if the clergy elite really wants to take Pacman’s example, then they should learn to accept defeat. After the fight he always shook the hand of his opponent.

    But this ‘white-robed mafia’ only wants to perpetuate a fight that they have clearly lost. They want to keep the Filipino quarreling and bickering. All because of pride.

    Talo na, humihirit pa.

    Win or lose Pacman always thanked God for His grace and guidance.
    But now that the voting did not go their way, I don’t hear the bishops praising God’s divine intervention.

    They are like spoiled children who whine and cry when they don’t get their way.

    RH Bill, welcome to a new Philippines!

  • nbi agent

    all bishops have bad odor!

    • filipinaskoh

      sobra ka naman! ang bango nga nila eh.

      Ang mahal yata ng mga perfume ng mga iyan!

  • joshmale2004

    Since the RH Bill is now bound to be enacted into law, the least the catholic priests can do since they believe that the majority has erred in their decision on the RH Bill, is to intercede and pray to God to forgive the sinners and then pray for the RH Bill and those who will implement, to use it responsibly and not abuse the law. They should also pray for their flocks and the filipino people not to take advantage of the Law and use it to commit crimes or acts to commit sins. If they can do this, I believe more people will respect them and will join the Catholic religion. If jesus Christ who is the Son God, while being nailed to the cross, he felt pity instead of vengeance agains the Romans that before he died, he interceded and prayed to His Father to forgive the sins of the soldiers as they do not know what they are doing. At this time, why can not the priest do what the Son of God did.

    • reddfrog

      They should pray that their own souls are not destined for h3ll for their hypocrisy.

  • just_anotherperson

    If we love God and are faithful to Him, we shall be at peace, and this peace will endure. – St. Madeline Sophie Barat

    • filipinaskoh

      we are all at peace – kayo lang ang hindi!

    • reddfrog

      That is a big IF. I suppose pedophilia, rape, corruption and political patronage brings peace huh.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/LKFDTEJV6PW4EMT42VRJZG7C5A golden doodle

      Faithful to the bishops who represent your God?  Nonsensical.  You’ve just surrendered your individual freedom and your right to determine your own destiny.

      • just_anotherperson

        To rely on our talents is a cause of great loss. When someone places confidence in his own prudence, knowledge, and intelligence, God, To make him know and see his insufficiency, withdraws from him His help and leaves him to work by himself. This is often why our undertakings miserably fail. – St. Vincent de Paul

  • sked482

     “That means a good number of our lawmakers still have a good conscience and conviction,” he added.

    Marbel Bishop Dinualdo Gutierrez praised the 104 lawmakers who voted
    against the RH bill and said those who voted for the measure apparently
    “did not grow in their faith.”

    ———————————-

    With the likes of Marcos and Arroyo? Very doubtful.

    • reddfrog

      Conscience and conviction are the last things these bishops are qualified to lecture about. Where’s their conscience and conviction when they asked the corrupt Arroyo administration for SUVs in exchange for their undying support? What about their conscience when they raped or kept quiet about the child rape happening within their ranks? Hypocrites, and the fools who follow them. Pathetic.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    MitsuBISHOPS LOOZER

  • To_Be_Continued

    A doctor approached Bishop Jose Oliveros and volunteered to design and build a new church for him. Oliveros rudely replied: “Got lost! It is not the same as curing a sick person. Church building entails engineering expertise! You are not!

    An engineer advised retired Lingayen Dagupan Archbishop Oscar Cruz a medicine for his arthritis. Cruz curtly replied: “Sorry but you are not the right person to recommend such medicine. You’re not a doctor.”

    A farmer volunteered to retired Novaliches Bishop Teodoro Bacani to sanitize his retirement home. Feeling intruded, Bacani led the farmer to the exit door of his residence saying: Get out great pretender. That’s the job of a certified sanitation officer. What do you know about sanitation when your feet are always deep in the mud?!?

    By coincidence the three bishops crossed path with the doctor, the engineer, and the farmer at the session hall of the House of Representatives during the second reading of the RH Bill.

    The three men asked the bishops about their business in the building. The Bishops, in unison, replied. We are pro-life and for the unborn. We are here to express our opposition to the RH Bill.

    The men replied: “OH Yeah?!?!” Your job is to save souls!!! You are supposedly ignorant about fa-king because of your vow of celibacy. Why the heck do you have to dictate to us when, how, where and how many times to fak. You are not fa-king experts…Now get lost!!!

    Amen…

    • ARIKUTIK

      The Bishops replied > “We may not know about fa-king but our flocks are married. They look upon us for salvation againts your greed in RH bill”. You have the money to buy votes but our believers have faith in God.” Now eat your money.

      • reddfrog

        So you mean to say these priests and bishops are also married that is why they are tmhe experts? Hilarious! Perhaps you can also ask for their advise about loving all children ;)

      • jennifer ali

         pretend to give suv’s to all the priests and they’ll tell their audience to vote for you! amen, what else is new!  have you heard of a priest who gave even 1 month of salary for charity!  guess when the dove turns to be a magpie! aaah!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/LKFDTEJV6PW4EMT42VRJZG7C5A golden doodle

        Non-sequitur.  You think like a bishop — muddled, irrational, devious.  Read the RH bill yourself and learn how to understand.  It is not enough to sit in church and gape in ignorant admiration at someone who professes to have the capacity to think for you.  Look at the evidence and think for yourself.

      • To_Be_Continued

        “They took upon us”
        For real?!?!
        Who are “They”?!?!?!
        These coneheads will say anything jjust to keep their easy money jobs. I eat my money but you hypocrites better chew first your Pajeros.
        Shameless “servants” of God.

  • Manny De Guzman, Jr. Arts-Phot

    Bakit hindi ang mga tao na lang ang magbotohan kung gusto nila ng RH Bill o hindi, hindi yung nakikisawsaw pa yung iba’t ibang organization. Di ba mga mamamayan din naman ang direktang maaapektuhan sakaling maipatupad man o hindi ang RH Bill? Let the people decide, or at least let them (let us) get involved.

    • ARIKUTIK

      Hindi ang ang mamamayan ang direktang maaapektuhan kung ipatupad ang RH bill. Exempted ang mayayaman lalo na ang mga intsik sa atin. Ang mga mahihirap nating kababayan ang siyang Target ng RH bill. Sila ang magka kasakit ng Cancer at maaring magka roon ng Freak baby. Ang RH bill ay Greed ng mga powerful rich.

      • Manny De Guzman, Jr. Arts-Phot

        Wala ata akong nakitang probisyon sa RH Bill na nagsasabing para sa mahihirap lang ang ang batas na ito at exempted dito ang mayayaman at mga intsik. Ang alam ko ang batas ay para sa lahat at walang exemption. In fact, nakasaad sa SEC. 28. Prohibited Acts, na papatawan ng kaukulang parusa ang sinumang opisyales ng pamahalaan, organisasyon, ospital, duktor, o employers na magkakait ng serbisyo patungkol sa reproductive health.

        Nabasa ko ang buong nilalaman ng House Bill 4244 at naikumpara ko sa current Family Planning Methods, halos pareho lang naman ang intensyon nito: ang mapabuti ang buhay ng pamilya at protektahan ang kalusugan ng mga ina at magiging ina, ganun din ang magiging supling na mabibigyan ng kaukulang atensyon at pag-aaruga.

        Narito ang key provisions ng RH Bill for your info and guidance:
        1. The State guarantees public access to and relevant information and
        education on medically safe, legal, ethical, affordable, effective and
        quality reproductive health care services, methods, devices and supplies
        which do not prevent implantation of a fertilized ovum in the uterus as
        determined by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
        2. The State shall likewise prioritize the needs of poor women and men
        in marginalized households as identified by the National Household
        Targeting System for Poverty Reduction (NHTS-PR) and other government
        measures of identifying marginalization, who shall be voluntary
        beneficiaries of reproductive health care, services and supplies for
        free.
        3. The State shall also provide funding support to promote
        modern-natural methods of family planning consistent with the needs of
        acceptors.The State shall promote openness to life, provided that parents
        bring forth to the world only those children that they can raise in a
        truly humane way.
        4. There shall be no demographic and population targets and the
        mitigation, promotion and/or stabilization of the population growth rate
        are incidental to the advancement of reproductive health
        and sustainable human development.The teaching of reproductive health and sexuality education shall be
        promoted and conducted with due deference to cultural, religious and
        ethical norms of various communities.
        5. The FDA shall update the Philippine National Drug Formulary (PNDF)
        with respect to modern family planning products and supplies in
        accordance with standard medical practice.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/LJVSZRQ7PBVINM5F6LL2HRURKA Rinaanir

    Tama o mali, you can’t deny the fact na walang nagawa ang simbahang katoliko nung naipasa yon don. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/LJVSZRQ7PBVINM5F6LL2HRURKA Rinaanir

    Tama o mali, you can’t deny the fact na walang nagawa ang simbahang katoliko nung naipasa yon don.

  • Ganymede

    Hoy mga obispo.. kayo ang nag ca-cause ng disunity among Filipinos! Majority ng Pinoy gusto ng RH Bill kayo lang naman ang gumugulo ng sitwasyon – sa pamamagitan ng pag kakalat ng kasinungalingan, pananakot, at pagdududa.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SINABI NI CRISTO PANGALAGAAN MO PINARARAMI MO DI YUNG PARAMI KA NG PARAMI PAG PAG NA KINAKAIN MO” UNIVERSIAL R.H IS GOOD TO THE PEOPLE”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CARNIVAL TAGLE  YES TO LIFE REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”

  • regd

    The sooner the antis realized they already kiss the canvass the better!
    You wanna know what is a knockout? Ask Manny. He knows. Palusot lang ang salita.
    The golf club is also a deadly weapon to knockout people. Yes true, Ask Tiger Woods.

  • albayislands

    nag-iisa lang si Jose Rizal noon kaya kayang kaya ng mga Pari na ipa-patay siya. Ngayon marami na ang namulat sa katotohanan. Nag-sisigawan ang mga Pari at mga Obispo na tulungan ang mga mahihirap, collection para sa mahihirap, ngunit ni ayaw madumihan ang kalilang mga mamahaling damit, sasakyan at mala-palasyong bahay. Collection, donation para sa mahihirap, pero walang mahirap na makapag-aral sa kanilang mga paaralan, PAARALAN para sa MAYAYAMAN LAMANG….  

    • jennifer ali

       Iyan ang totoo, tingnan mo ang mga mamahaling private schools ay may-ari ng catholic church! di ba sabi nila humility at humbly sila pero bakit di libre para sa mahirap ang school nila yet gusto nila na dumami ang mga mahihirap, para ano! maraming mag-simba at magbigay ng, ano! PERA sa donation ..para. saan? may sweldo naman sila na galing sa org nila noh! kaya kayong mahihirap, mag-isip isip kayo na kung 2 ang anak nyo ay kaya nyong bigyan ng magandang buhay at education para makakatulong sila sa pagtanda ninyo, di yong isang dosena eh puro holdupper ang labas! ngayon sa reliyon kayo o sa buhay at kinabukasan ng mga anak nyo, pili!
      isa pa, pag nagkaroon ba ng calamity ay inaako ng simbahan ang problema ng tao, never! sila, libre sa tax sa negosyo, lupain, donasyon na bigay nyo, alang tax yan, lahat libre sila at akala nyo ay wala silang sweldo at nagiging pari ng libre! aaaah! buksan nyo ang mga mata nyo kung bakit dito sa pinas ay ayaw ng birth control samantala sa ITALY ay MERON! dahil, da more ay more donasyon pag simba nyong hopeless na mahihirap!
      so sino ang utu-utu ang simbahan o kayo na halos hikaos sa buhay samantalang ang mga pari ay laging naka-aircondition ang mga bahay nila!
      ako ay pinalaki na catoliko pero mula nang nandito ako sa europa ay nakikita ko ang totoo at galing ako sa hirap na buhay din! sana magisip kayo! salamat!

      • cute79

        agree!

      • akimaxx

        Tama ka Jennifer, nang nakita o nakompara ni Rizal ang Europa at Pilipinas, nag- iba ang kanyang panananaw kaya naisulat ang Noli at Fili. Mga Damaso tulungang umangat ang Pilipinas. Tumahimik na lang at gampanan ang trabaho nyo kay Kristo.

  • tekateka

    You will soon be KO’d… Your flocks are flocking away… :)

  • quirinomayer

    Congressmen,  deliver the KO punch to these Padre Damasos come Monday.   They are a plague and jinx to the Filipino nation for almost 500 years now.

    LET THE RH BILL BECOME A LAW! GET OUT OF OUR LIVES, PADRE DAMASO!

  • filipinaskoh

    It ain’t over yet!
    Of course! it’s just a knock down

    wait for the knock out punch! and you will kiss the carpet of the session hall goodbye!

  • speaksoftlylove

     Eat your heart out. Partida na kay PNoy yang second reading. Itold you,
    the RH bill is kaput, dead, gone and destined to be archived until
    Kingdom Come. Humirit ka pa!

  • mekeni62

    I would not call it disunity. I would call it freedom of choice.

    • speaksoftlylove

      Suit yourself, call it whatever pleases you. But there is only one simple reason or motivation for the pro RH propnonents votes and that is, greed. Greed for the lobby money and greed for the pork. It’s simply shooting three birds with one stone for the followers of holier than thou pinhead in the place.

      • mekeni62

        I am a Pnoy critic but I agree with him on this one. This my friend is a choice.

      • cato_the_younger

        Owwws, you mean the anti-RH congressmen do not get their share of pork? Get real! At any rate, if the motivation is greed, then for this specific one, it has at least brought something good and beneficial for the country.

  • tadasolo

    let the poor women of the Philippines have a choice and free themselves from the abuse and servitude. The Bill is the ultimate answer to the nightmare and bad dream for the last 5 centuries of domination by a suffocating clerical class and their supporters. Their dominion over the poor women of the Philippines is coming to an end and the fear of eternal suffering for those in favor of the Bill is losing its meaning and the courage shown by the representatives is testament to our maturity started by our National Hero Jose Rizal

  • reddfrog

    So, Catholic clergymen and those that follow them – why did God not intervene to save the life of the innocent unborn. After all you say that prayers are powerful and surely God listens to your prayers. Where is your victory?

  • Hfxwst

    Filipino  Catholic Bishops are religious extremists trying to impose Catholic doctrine on everyone even non Catholics.  Same thing happens in Islamic extremist countries.  

    I fail to understand why they are not restricted to their pulpits.  That is what they receive their charity status for.   Only women should be allowed to vote on this Bill.

    • reddfrog

      It has nothing to do with morality. This anti RH brouhaha is all about showing the government that the Catholic Church wields enough power, so the government better listen to them. in other words, palakihan ng teetee. We all know that these bishops will sell their soul to whoever will give them an SUV.

      • Hfxwst

        Agreed – I have lived in 3 other mostly Catholic countries, and I have never witnessed such obnoxious and extreme Catholic clergy. They really need to learn their place, and that place is NOT in the private dining rooms and wood paneled offices of government. Philippines is like Saudi Arabia, only the Immans are Bishops. Tyranny by the majority, and the majority are Catholic Bishops. There is probably a good human rights case in this for Filipinos who are not Catholic.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

        As it is with the RH Bill, whoever wins will pretty much control the country.

  • w33k3nd3r

    First Noli Me Tangere and El Filibusterismo and now the RH Bill. You clergy are so predictable when your corrupt institution’s weaknesses are at stake– you react so vehemently, just like vampires to garlic.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PM6JHCFR2KT2AURMWRDUXBNLQY Darwin

    The irony is delicious. When Pnoy began dismantling judicial independence and prostituting congress, and used media smearing to get its enemies, these bishops did not speak out. Now that they are the enemy of Malacanang, now they cry and whine. I find no sympathy for them. They dug their grave. Let them lie in the casket. I for one, will not be sorry to see this Church get its just desserts.

  • isalexus

     “Whether the people will listen or not, that’s something else but the Church will not be acting like the infamous three monkeys who can see nothing, hear nothing and say nothing.”  HOW ARROGANT!!  These Bishop should know n that they are acting like those three monkeys–The Church see  nothing that the world has changed since the middle ages; hear nothing that modern and far more learned society is telling the church that their belief and dogmas are out-of-date and say nothing that is relevant to present day society!!! Modern day society need no “in-between agent ” when  it come to the believer and his god!!

  • FORTHE GOOD

    More power to the RH bill!

    Do not be intimidated by the bishops. There is no catholic vote. They are as sinful as everybody else.

    In fact, they are more answerable to God because they are supposed to be holy but many of them are sex offenders against minors, women, and even against their fellow men.LOL!!

  • kulittwit

    Ganda ng picture. Ipinapakita lang kung saan ang dapat kalagyan ng mga damaso sa pamamalakad ng pamahalaan:  dyan sila sa audience.

    Sa kabilang banda, nakakalungkot din dahil ang mas tamang kalagyan nila ay sa simbahan o kumbento nag mi misa o nagdarasal sa halip na magbulungan dyan na parang mga hudas.

  • dan757

    1.  Filipino Catholics are better thinkers in this day and age.  While they may still go to Church every week, they can discern better which Catholic teachings are practical vs. archaic, and what to adopt to better their lives and their relationships.  The fact that many people still go to Church gives priests/bishops the illusion of the “power” they still wield.
    2.  Anti-RH bill proponents keep on harping on the costs to our coffers of implementing the bill.  What’s more expensive to the government, teaching family planning/providing birth control options, or providing maternal healthcare services for all expecting moms who can’t afford private services?
    3.  Around ~80% of the Philippine population are Catholics.  Not 100%.  It is the government’s responsibility to serve and legislate for the 100%.  Are the leaders of the 80% “bullying” our legislators so the other 20% are sidelined, as far as national laws and programs are concerned?

  • Hey_Dudes

    I suppose these freakish bishops are staking whatever remains of their influence and integrity risking all of it in their misguided belief RH bill is still theirs to be won?  They will not admit the fact it already got voted favorably on second reading, what makes them think third reading will squash earlier ruling in their favor?

    Question is, what if they looses again and the RH bill is deemed finally passed awaiting final bill approval in the senate, will they call on the easily goaded ignoramuses to mass up along EDSA so their wounded egos and damaged reputation can be redeemed by these protesters  once police and other authorities begins to use their batons and tear gas?

    Will these bishops wounded pride and all prepared to declare everyone voting for this bill to pass excommunicated?  I hope they will do that.  It maybe what this country need to once and for all tell these frigging bishops shape up or ship out.

  • batangsulpok

    Kung magpupumilit na makialam ang CBCP sa gobyerno, bakit di imbestigahan ng BIR ang lahat ng ari-arian ng simbahan para mabuwisan din?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RFG6UCNQ56C4BLXE67YMGP7REI henry

    I have long to see the final show down. The Bishops should know that they are no longer the “prime movers” in the government unlike in the dark age when they have great influence on the government in Europe. In fact, they kept the knowledge to themselves, exclusively for their benefit. 

    Religion is known to use eternal damnation as a technique to scare and put their followers to follow to tow the line  meaning, that their congregation should blindly follow without questions what ever they, the Bishops or priest says. 

    There is a saying that charity begins at home, and home is should be. We are now in modern times. I do not discount what ever one believes on because we all have our own mind and discretion just who to believe. However, as the word Charity stands for, we do not see the church voluntarily paying tax just like anyone else. 

    Just look at UST, FEU, ATENEO, SAN BEDA, MERYKNOLL and dozens more schools and University which are run by religious secto, should they really deserve to be tax free?. Yes, it is in the Constitution that there is a separation of Church and STate, and that all Religious groups should be EXCEMPTED FROM TAX. The question is what if the Church engage in business. Is it not rightfully said that when these supposedly Churches engage in businesses like education and investment in stocks considered as going out of their realm in which the definition of Church is stated they should also pay their tax? When we are baptist, we pay fees, when we get married, same thing, we pay fees, and when someone dies, and is brought to the church, it too has to pay fees? Unlike Charity, Churches and Religious groups now has aggrandize themselves with so much financial resources beyond their needs. They become so powerful to the point that they now influence even the very core of our government. Was it not the late Cardinal Sin who committed the cardinal Sin or the biggest violation when he rallied his congregation to joint the “People Power !” to topple the late Dictator? Was it not the Church and the Oligarchy who dethrone Erap off Malacanyang? But is it equally safe that the Church has been taking bribe from the Former Gloria Arroyo like those SUV Bishops? How much did the Bishop of Cebu got from Gloria to close his eyes to the salvaging going on in Cebu and the squandering of public funds by Gloria? In fact, he extol Gloria like she is a champion of the people. I have to mention seeing not one but four priest putting their palm over the head of the President and praying for her protection, from what? From Justice and accountability. Is the Church stoop so low on that.

    But, now, as I have said, I really want a show down between the government and the church to settle ones and for all who should follow who under our low.

  • mabyrik

    To those congressmen who voted no, read the writings on the wall. Digest and feel the nodding reactions of the entire country after the second voting and reassess yourself. 

    Are you for the church who also opposed that Rizal Course should not be taught in schools for fear that the church anti-God characters it possessed will be known by students or are you for the people who will be your bosses?

    The writings on the wall will decide your fate in the coming election for you will be judged by them based on your stand in this RH. Do not forget 70% of the people are for RH.

    The modern prayles or bishops (now called CBCP) are not your constituents. They are the pains in our necks and the bane of our progress as a nation, not only economically but also intellectually.

    Up to this day, the modern prayles wanted us to remain ignorant for them to easily manipulate and abuse. Remember, the prayles enslaved the people for more than 300 years by giving them false hope, telling lies and keeping them ignorant. The modern prayles or bishops wanted to perpetuate the prayles of the past.  

    Obviously, the bishops are up in arms against RH not because they care about life but because they care about the alms and donations and to keep the people poor and ignorant forever. They repeatedly want to dictate upon us their will like what the prayles had dictated for centuries. 

    Enough of prayles congressmen. Vote YES to RH in 3rd reading. Today, no rizal will die because the people are solid against these prayles. Do not be intimidated by their threats for the prayles also died when Rizal died even if the demise can only be felt now and the burial ceremony can only be officiated now.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jake.dionisio.5 Jake Dionisio

      Atleast now we see which people we should not be voting for… Decisions from their parents… lmao… I pity your constituents.

  • jr_06498

    Retired Bishop Bacani, kahit ano pa ang milagrong imbentuhin mo, ang RH pag asa ng taong bayan para mabawas bawasan ang mga nag hihirap na pamilya. O baka sabihin na naman ng mga Bishop at pare na ang pag hihirap ay bahagi lamang ng pag subok ng diyos, ang problema pare at bishop ay hindi nag hihirap dahil wala silang binabayarang buwis.

    • UrHONOR

      ANONG klaseng bisyap yan na sumasalungat sa samahan ng RCCh…..breakaway na grupo ng EMEN, EMEN….tapos nakakabit pa din sa RCCh?  Namamangka sa 2 ilog ang tinamaan ng kulog na BI$YAP!

    • cato_the_younger

      This is the same bishop who found nothing wrong with Erap’s plunder and corruption. Well, he probably looks at Erap as the model of a good Catholic – di nag-a-artificial contraception. Ina-anakan lahat ng maka-siping.

  • joerizal

    Ni hindi mo maimbita na mag-misa o mag-bless ng bahay yang mga pari kung walang lagay. Lahat may kapalit para sa kanila. Kontra ng kontra sa RH bill pero meron ba silang mga pinalabas na materyales para ituro sa mga tao ang posisyon ng simbahan? Wala. Ginagamit lang nila ang banal na misa para mag-sermon tungkol sa malabong posisyon nila. Naiintindihan ba ng tao kung bakit sila kumokontra? Hindi. Ang naiiintindihan ng tao ay simple lang…kung maraming anak, mahirap ang buhay kung walang maipakain. Ano ang solusyon ng simbahan diyan? Wala. Ano ang solusyon ng gubyerno…RH bill at iba pang batas. So ano ang natural na pipiliin? E di RH Bill!!!

    • Barak_O

      bobo analysis

      • joerizal

        I’m sorry pero siguro ibang post ang sinasagot mo kasi wala ka namang laman kung sumagot o mag-post. Pakalbo ka muna bago ka magpatawa.

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

       “Ni hindi mo maimbita na mag-misa o mag-bless ng bahay yang mga pari kung walang lagay. Lahat may kapalit para sa kanila.”

      True, in the most part. Im sure there are exceptions (last rites to accident victims, ie.)

      “Kontra ng kontra sa RH bill pero meron ba silang mga pinalabas na materyales para ituro sa mga tao ang posisyon ng simbahan? Wala.”

      True.

      “Ginagamit lang nila ang banal na misa para mag-sermon tungkol sa malabong posisyon nila.”

      True. The their position comes from a divine reason which contradicts logical reason. The only way for someone to understand it is to subscribe to it.

      “Naiintindihan ba ng tao kung bakit sila kumokontra? Hindi.”

      True. Their reason is somewhat shaky at best, as per those that read or heard debates on RH issues all over the world. Methods somewhat un-Christian like esp in Mexico.

      “Ang naiiintindihan ng tao ay simple lang…kung maraming anak, mahirap ang buhay kung walang maipakain. Ano ang solusyon ng simbahan diyan? Wala.”

      Not necessarily true.
      Well, there are minute feeding programs for the poor. However, the idea that to teach them to fish, rather than giving them fish for a day is not practiced to all indigent people.

      “Ano ang solusyon ng gubyerno…RH bill at iba pang batas. So ano ang natural na pipiliin? E di RH Bill!!!”

      True.

      Logically, if one cannot get answer from one person or entity, it seeks another source. If the church will no sufficiently answer the issue, then people will eventually disengage themselves in matters RH.  Just as people disengage themselves from the government in matters spiritual.

      Great interpretation, sir.

  • RONNIE858

    Sana ang church ang magpapakain sa mga batang gutom hanggang 18 yrs old sila. tignan natin kung ano ang masasabi nila.

    • UrHONOR

      IMPOSIBLE!  Mababawasan ng malaki ang kaban ng simbahan na sa kanila lamang nakalaan.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        IMPOSIBLE SINASABI MO MABABAWASAN ANG 17BILLION NA KAYAMANAN NG SIMBAHAN KUNG KUKUPKUPIN NILA MGA BATANG HUBO”

      • antonioluna

        ul0l.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/LKFDTEJV6PW4EMT42VRJZG7C5A golden doodle

    I am an alumnus of the Ateneo, and I questioned the Church’s teachings as far back as the 70s when I was in high school.  I left the Church ages ago, and I left organized religion at about the same time.  I have lived with and by reason over all these years, and I am a happier and better person because of it.  My fellow human being is my god, and I base my daily decisions on scientific evidence and the rational principles of humanism.  The Church and the rest of organized religions have been the greatest causes of poverty and ignorance in the Philippines.  An ignorant, poor, and desperate populace is the perfect recruitment source for the church.  It serves the Church’s hypocritical goals to keep the citizenry dependent on them.  The followers of any religion are no different from a taxpayer base — they are simply a source of revenue.  Very little goes back to the people who provide the revenue.  The bulk of the church’s income goes towards “operations” — if a priest, bishop, minister, iman, or any religious official lives as well as you do, or maybe better, then there is something inherently wrong with that already.  The RH bill is not based on dogma; it derives its moral ascendancy from the fact that it is based on scientific evidence which is the only evidence that is acceptable.  Anything else is deception.  The RH bill will protect women — that important segment of the human race that the church considers inferior and second-class.  The RH bill will only have one harmful effect — it will deflate the power and conceit of the bishops.

    • tekateka

      Exactly: To open everyone’s Eyes.. better watch this.. avail in youtube:

      ” Religion the greatest story ever sold”

    • Rigoberto_Tigdas

      To all Anti-RH, you may never, EVER, understand it for now, but we will all benefit from this law in the future, you’ll see.
       
      You’ve done your best, laid your arguments, but at the end of the day, only one side will prevail. Remove all the anger and bitterness, we are all Filipinos afterall.
       
      Accept your defeat and get on with your lives!
       
      We have so much work to do.

  • indiosbravos2002

    The bishops should read the writing on the wall… GAME OVER! If the bishops has all the “pull” that they claim to have, this bill should have been terminated at inception. Given the fact that the bishops were in full force yet lost the battle means that Catholicism is now in its next phase. They can not deny it but the Catholic church is now in the state of decline. People do not value the orders of the church any longer and exodus of members have multiplied. It could be the church leaders, the different hurch scandals (PAJERO, PEDOPHILIa, various sex scamdals etc) or members just being more aware of their freewill. It also does not help that some of the bishops pronouncements on the RH bill were insensitive (Typhoon Pablo was sent by God to punish us for suporting the RH bill etc) and more often than not does not make sense

  • UrHONOR

    E yon ngang pagka-makaluma at pagka-laos na ng samahan ng mga nakasayang-puti na nakatitig ng dilat-na-dilat sa mga cara ng mga TNL na yan, e, HINDI MATANGGAP, yan pang pagka-pasa ng RH bill?  Talagang wala na sa TONO ang mga TNL na yan at puro pangaral at pangarap lamang ni damaso gn kanilang napapansin.  WALA ng katuturan ang mga pinaggagawa ng mga multi-billionaires na yan na sa katunayan ang kanilang sari-sariling kapakanan na lang ang kanilang ina-asikaso.  Ang mga mahihirap?  “SAKA na sila dahil naaaapakarami nila upang asikasuhin….isa pa, ang laki-laki ng mawawala sa ating kaban kung pati ang mga yagit na yan ay bibigyan pa natin ng pangmadaliang pansin.”

    Samantala, lbio-libo ang mga sumasapi sa mga samahan na kapalit ng RCCh tulad ng JIL, ES, INK, BA, CFC, etc. dahil wala na silang nakikitaang katuturan sa mga ina-asikaso ng mga naka-bestida.  Yong iba na takot-na-takot mawalay sa punbilyo ng kanilang mga paders, e, ayon, nagpapakamatay sa pagtatanggol ng mga turo at seremonyas ng mga damasing na sila mismo ay hindi naniniwala.

    SAPUL na UMIILAG pa!  K.O. na, gusto pang lumaban.  TIKLO na, humihirit pa.

  • kulittwit

    Mga obispong damaso puro puitika. Napabayaan na ang pinakamahalagang gawain nila: evangelization, uplifting the spirituality, and shepherding the flock.

    Parami nang parami ang umaalis sa katoliko hindi man lang uma aksyon ang mga obispo. Pa konti ang uma attend ng regular mass kada linggo.

    Malaking bagay ang pag alis ni manny pacquiao sa katoliko. Ang mga ganitong bagay ang dapat atupagin ng mga obispo. Kulang na sa pagkalinga ang spiritual life ng mga katoliko.

  • UrHONOR

    LIKE a dog that goes back to its vomit, is a fool that repeats its folly.  Sige, mga BI$YAPS, bira-pa-ng-bira habang pinagbibigyan kayo ng pagkakataon…..para lalo kayong magmukhang engot sa kabulastugan ninyong pinaggagawa.  ANAKng Pugante, yang sarili ninyong mga bakuran na umaalingasaw sa hobern at nakakaduwal tingnan, e, hindi ninyo magawan ng paraan,  yan pang salat-na-salat kayo sa kaalaman at porma lamang ang ginagamit ninyo para makasilo ng magogoyo?  Aba, e, swertihin na nga sana kayo nang lumago lalo ang kita ng kaban!

  • brunogiordano

    Tama ang sabi ni CARDINAL MRTINI

    OBSOLETE at PASSÉ na ang MORAL na nais ipasunod ng VATICAN.

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    Iputok niyo sa loob mga pe·do·phile  (A person who is sexually attracted to children)
    The Catholic sex abuse cases are a series of convictions, trials and investigations into allegations of child sexual abuse crimes committed by Catholic priests and members of Roman Catholic orders against children as young as 3 years old with the majority between the ages of 11 and 14

  • willbillywilly

    After all the bishops prayers & lobbying it ended up with the RH bill winning.  What does this mean now? Could it not be that’s the will of God & yet these bishops will not accept anything that is not according to their wishes

  • mangtom

    These cry baby priests and bishops are the worst example to the Filipino people. You are not man or mature enough to accept defeat. We know Pacquiao, you are not Pacquiao. You say it was not knock out that you suffered yesterday after the second reading. It was knockdown. You will happen to you after the third reading is annihilation. Kaput. You are gone.

    You bishops and priests have to remember that NOT, NOT, NOT all Filipinos are CatoLOKO. Many of us have higher education than you. So stop treating us as if we are living in the Spanish times when you suppressed education and kept our forefathers ignorant so that you could manipulate them like puppets. We will not allow you to ram down our throats your brand of morality. You are assuming na kayo lang ang moral. Kaming hindi sumusunod sa inyong katarantaduhan ay immoral.

    Let me tell you a true story-God knows this story is true. I have a Filipino friend who lives in the US. He came home to PI for a visit and we got to talk about life in US. Here is what he said: a Filipino priest from my friend’s hometown visited him in the US. My friend wanted to give his priest friend a good time while in the US. So he took his friend to a whore house. This priest went in and after he was done with his “business”, he told my friend and the other Pinoys who were in the group, “kayo, ha, mga satanas.”

    Tapos meron pa akong kaibigan na Catoloco. Sabi sa aming barkada ay hindi daw siya naniniwala sa mga pare kasi yong mga pare sa bayan nila ay may mga kabit at anak sa labas.

    Yan ang mga klase ng mga “moral” priests na dapat nating sundin. 

    You CBCP ay WALANG kredibilidad. Maari ninyong sabihin sa mga tao sa simbahan ninyo na ganito ganyan ang dapat nilang gawain. Sa labas ng simbahan, ibang istorya na: may mga taong hindi Catoloco at walang paniniwala sa mga gimmick ninyo.

    Kung saan ako pupunta, Mall of Asia o sa impyerno, that is my business and NONE OF YOURS. GET THIS INSIDE YOUR HARD HEAD. Siguradong ayaw kayong sumunod sa akin kung sasabihin ko ang gagawin ninyo. Ganun din sa amin o sa akin.  SO MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS

  • $37644997

    To all CBCP’s please don’t wear your night gowns,it looks weird to me.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVL2A2ZORMRU3JD42NMNCJYFRU Concerned

    Please Catholic Church, stop it! The Church knows that to propagate is to continue to reign power even at the expense of starving people.  If they so want to propagate, then please share the wealth.  The Church is by far the richest organization in the world. 
    The more the church shouts, the more hypocrite they sound.

  • Bengatibo

    Padre Damaso, basahin mo ang mga comments nang mga netizens, duon mo malalaman ang pulso nang bayan. Hindi lahat nang sinabi mo ay pinaniniwalaan nang sambayanan!!! This RH Bill is not a fight against morality. This is a fight of The People of the Philippines against Catholic Church!!! This is the start of your downfall!! Hindi pa ba kayo nakakahalata!!! Hindi na gaya nang panahon ni Rizal ang impluwensiya niyo. This is a signal of the awakening of the Filipino People!!! Your meddling is dividing the country but you don’t care, what you care is what you want to happen!!! May God have mercy on your soul!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6WTWZBPWUKYVEPFT2A6VIHDQZI taytay

      Balik na kayo lahat sa Catholic Church. Nandyan ang kaligtasan at katotohanan. Doon maturuan kayo kung ano ang totoo at katangahan!

  • willbillywilly

    These bishops are so conceited that they think they’re only the ones that can distinguish right from wrong. I’m sorry to say ordinary Filipinos like me have better judgment than them. I know for a fact that with all the scandal during Gloria’s reign were against the commandments of God yet these so called leaders of the church exchange their sound judgment  for a few pieces of gold from their benefactor Gloria. They only apply the law of God if it is for their favour while completely closing their eyes on the sins of  members of the clergy which is well known to all ordinary citizens like us.

  • Consumers Power

    The poor sector heave a sigh of relief after results of second reading paving the way to its long awaited passage.

  • tekateka

    Bawal to sa mga TANGA!

    youtube:

    ” Religion the greatest story ever sold”

  • Consumers Power

    Instead of spending more time in congress meddling, they better had it done helping the Pablo victims in Mindanao who are until now crying for help.

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

      Everything has its place. We cannot forgo one important law simply because another important aspect in our lives happen to exist at the same time?

      Let us give RH Bill its due as we give assistance to the Pablo victims, as we give proper attention to other important things.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6WTWZBPWUKYVEPFT2A6VIHDQZI taytay

        The RH bill will be the new Pablo that will devastate our land. And the government will be helpless and panicking to see more death and destruction abound.  The next generation of leaders will surely question and curse all the politicians who  happily welcomed the new Pablo all over the country.

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        I do not think so.

        You see, for a larger part of the people, nothing has changed, except we got more educated.

        The lower half of the population got both education and condoms should they want it.

        Abortion remains a crime, as it did so before, so I do not know how this law would in any way affect it.

        With society, more focused on the children they are able to bring up, it would lessen the burden of child rearing, ending up with more children with a better quality of life. Which is a plus for the future.

        I do not see the fire and brimstone associated with the death and destruction you are referring to. In fact the only time I see i envision our country in your scenario would be if the assumption that the Mayan end of days would lead to the end of the world, which is at best, ridiculous.

        Could you be more elaborate in defining how the RH bill will lead to your apocalyptic future?

  • willbillywilly

    One of the bishop present at congress was no other than Bishop Mercado, the same bishop embroiled in pocketing  donations by church goers to the victims of the  destructive typhoon last year in his diocese in Muntinlupa & las Pinas. May I know from the catholic hierarchy what happened to his ongoing investigation which started a year ago & up to now they’ve remained silent

  • Bengatibo

    Padre Damaso, if it is a knockout, it will be the end of your reign in the minds of the Filipinos. You have lost your relevance by meddling in politics. Sa bahay na lang magdadasal ang tao kasi sa simbahan puro pulitika ang sermon, nagsisimba ang tao para magdasal, hindi para makinig nang pulitika sa sermon. Sa radio at telebisyon sangkatutak ang pinag-uusapan tungkol sa pulitika. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6WTWZBPWUKYVEPFT2A6VIHDQZI taytay

      kung buhay pa si Rizal magpapasalamat yon kay padre Damaso. dahil si Rizal anti rh!
       

      • observer_din

        anti RH si RIZAL? WEEEEEE DI NGA????? hahahaha

  • bgcorg

    The passage on second reading of the rh bill raises more questions than answers. What prompted the 40 or so Congressmen in favor of junking the rh bill to prematurely leave?  Would their nominal votes on Monday not change the outcome?  Or, subsequent activities on the matter involving Congress, like in the third reading, in the Bicam report approval if the Senate voted or had the necessary numbers to have it approved, too? The conclusion of the present Congress is already imminent. Pro rh supporters are rejoicing over unfinished business.  There is yet no knockout, ending the fight, as the Bishops would say. 

    Now, it is clear that the “majority of Filipinos’ sentiment” is not really overwhelming in favor of the rh bill. The votes, mostly of congressmen in the provinces, do reflect the voice of their constituency and no amount of half-truth propaganda can change that. In fact, there is a new awakening where the rh bill group is leading this country to! Our Lady of Guadalupe, patron saint of the unborn, had not really abandoned those who prayed for the triumph of openness to life.  The fight for the genuine good of women, the protection of the life of the unborn human, the immorality of recourse to  artificial contraception to soften the impact of government’s inability to take care of its present constituents against poverty, corruption and criminality, lack of opportunities under a regime of a just social order, the affirmation of the institutions of marriage and the family as the stable basis of a society living in justice, peace and love, continues for our “army of youth flying the standard of truth.” Our “young, vibrant workers” need a healthy replacement and to preserve our cometitive edge in the global stage, we do not have to experience the sad past of countries, even now attempting to go back to the natural, dynamic workings of that complex reality called demography.  And yet, pro-rh legislators are moving heaven and hell, government resources, foreign lobby money and media to condemn us and our nation to a backward, essentially dangerous national catastrophe!

    We call for reason, logic and faith to prevail.  Is artificial contraception, ill-conceived birth control measures the only way to lessen maternal deaths, infant mortality and so-called “women rights”?  Think again!  NO TO THE RH BILL!

    • tamumd

      lol….you’re just bitter! You got a double whammy that day! You lost in the Sin tax bill and then lost again in the second reading of RH bill. Maybe you didn’t pray hard enough. Hehehehe

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6WTWZBPWUKYVEPFT2A6VIHDQZI taytay

        God has his own tricks. And he cannot be tricked by the foolishness of the rh proponents! We”ll see.

      • tamumd

        God has his own tricks or he doesn’t exist? I say the latter. lol

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6WTWZBPWUKYVEPFT2A6VIHDQZI taytay

        hindi mo nga alam kung ano ang laman ng utak mo nagyayabang ka pa na walang Dios? Baka malaman mo na lang yan pag 6 feet below the ground ka na.

      • tamumd

        And what’s the content of you brain…..superstition from your fairytale holy book bible?

        Just read you ridiculous statement. How would a dead person know there’s some deity when that same person is dead. lol Have you ever heard of a dead person going to school learning? lol

    • suburbanmother

      You call for reason and logic? Then you should vote for the passing of the bill-it’s based on rational thinking.

      • catmanjohn

        Without contraceptives, there would be more abortions. I am anti-abortion, therefore pro RH Bill. Pro RH Bill is Pro Life, without deceptions and false expectations.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6WTWZBPWUKYVEPFT2A6VIHDQZI taytay

      very reasonable, indeed!

    • buntosser

       Mindsets like yours are one of the reasons I feel let down by the Catholic church, not faith itself but by the  the institution. The Church has had 2 millennia to stop poverty, it had all the power at one point. Now that a viable concept is available- not to eradicate it, but somehow to lessen hunger, poverty and deprivation. For starters, look at how many mouths the church can feed IF it sold a tiny fraction of what it owns rather than meddle in state affairs. The Philippines is not populated ONLY with Catholic believers, a lot in fact are UN-believers, why should they be subjected to the same    concept our dear Bishops think is right?

    • Seaflip

      Is that you Padre Damaso?

    • PikonNaKami

      A Catholic with strong faith should not be afraid of the RH Bill.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joel.valdoria Joel Valdoria

     House Bill No. 4244 seeks to provide couples with information on
    reproductive health and access to contraceptives, and mandates sex
    education in school. Wala akong nakikitang masama sa batas na ito. kailangan talaga ng bawat pamilya ng bansang ito ang tamang edukasyon upang mapagplanuhan ang tamang pagdami ng pamilya ng may suporta ng gobyerno.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SABI NI CARNIVAL TAGLE KUNG TUNAY KANG LALAKE IPUTOK MO SA LOOB WAG GAMITAN NG GOMA’ LABAG SA KAUTUSAN NG DIYOS”’

    • antonioluna

      kung tunay kang lalake, iisipin mo kinabukasan ng puputukan mo g@g0! ugaling as0.

  • Rae_E

    I was born & raised in a devout Catholic family but the day I left the Catholic Church was the best day of my life. I got enlightened, assured of my eternal destiny & was no longer held back by fears & superstitions. I know the same will be true for the Philippines once we’re unshackled from our bondage from the medieval Damasos.

    Spare us your lies CBCP. You’re never pro-life because you don’t care that thousands of women die & babies are aborted each day because of dire poverty & ignorance. You don’t care about life for you’d prefer poor families to keep on breeding like rabbits even though they can not feed, clothe, educate & shelther their children anymore. You prefer the poorest to keep on living in inhuman condtions so they remain ignorant & gullible for your self-serving & unbiblical teachings.

    You can no longer fool Filipinos bishops! The passing of the RH bill at the 2nd reading signals that more Filipinos are enlightened now and not mere religious or superstitious fanatics. You can stay at the pit where you belong but the rest of us will move forward! Kudos to the 113 in congress who voted for real lives!

  • Hey_Dudes

    If these hypocrite bishops are serious in preserving what is left of their influence, would it not be better for them to admit this is a wasted opportunity? To continue believing they still have the cushions to provide the difference, in my mind is something bordering on insanity.  These bishops, like it or not, should wake up and realize whether the bill won by 1 vote or 20 votes, at the end of the day, a vote to make it through the goal post is all that is needed.  Congress members in general,  those who voted for the bill in particular will come home to their constituents confident they’ve done their jobs.  While on the other, when these bishops retreat to their rectories, their reputation, legacy and influence has once more evaporated.  Give it up and start helping out government in making the lives of those existing already in the country to be normal as possible.

  • ODAPAIN

    if the Church does not see the many unborn babies thrown in the garbage and abandoned infants in the streets,they do’nt see that some lose faith or lack the guidance of the  church.we have more than enough politicians ,do we need more?,we need better priest to teach faith.congress is for politicians not friars.teach us about faith and prayer to guide us spiritualy dont tell us what to vote for it looks political,preach in the slums and streets to people that dont hear mass.dont go to congress you dont belong there,go to mindanao we have a lot of brothers who need help asap,stop with this political rallies.dapat kayo pa nga ang unang nakikita sa mga lugar na nasalanta ni Pablo.waste of human resourse to see priest in rallys magdistribute nalang kayo ng relief goods

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TCQMRK4HVOSF2IGML46TAGKMXU Benjamin

    The villains here are the Catholic Bishops. The rest of the religious sects namely… the INC, Protestants, Jehovah’s Witnesses, 7th day Adventists, and others are pro RH bill. It is only the Catholic Church that is against. It is clear as the sky that majority of the Filipinos favor this bill and must be passed as soon as possible to control population and educate Filipino mothers. Enough of this CBCP influence in the government. I repeat… THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SOLID CATHOLIC VOTE. The only religious sect which has solid vote is the Iglesia ni Cristo. All others vote according to their conscience. 

    • PikonNaKami

      A Catholic with strong faith should not be afraid of the RH Bill.

  • catmanjohn

    Presently, the doors to accessing information and services of reproduction and family planning are guarded and watched over by the Catholic Church in such a way that the heavy arm of ‘GUILT’ prevents anyone from taking the steps thru this door freely and reasonably, as it was intended. This new RH Bill removes the Church’s self appointed positions as ushers, and is a way to remove their meddling in people rights to decide, concerning their reproductive rights and family planning. The premise of the Catholic Church, that sex out of marriage is a sin, and should be used only for pro creation, where the use of contraceptives is a sin, is an unrealistic LIE and guilt trip by a group of falsely pious hypocrites. Look at the brothels in Manila or Angeles alone, on airport road, the number of women who are forced into this vice trade due to the lack of economic opportunity and education. The Catholic Church should do something to correct their lives before laying judgement against those who seek change from the past failed policies that has created such a situation for these poor women. Let the RH Bill be a new beginning, incorporate all the good laws and policies previously enacted, but let it be so that People, especially women, have the freedom to choose, responsibly and logically, what is best for them as individuals, and NOT an institution of old men riddled with contradictions.

    • catmanjohn

      One should add, the good work that the Catholic Church and their priests are doing is invaluable, and one has to salute them, but it is their duty to do so. However, it does not mean, by doing their good deeds, which one expects no less of the Catholic Church, that others have to become obligated or enslaved to their morals and standards.

  • joshmale2004

    Since the RH Bill is an State affair, the least the catholic priests can do since they believe that the majority has erred in their decision on the RH Bill, instead of threatening to fight back, it would be wise to intercede and pray to God to forgive the sinners and then pray for the RH Bill and those who will implement, to use it responsibly and not abuse the law. They should also pray for their flocks and the filipino people not to take advantage of the Law and use it to commit crimes or acts to commit sins. If they can do this, I believe more people will respect them and will join the Catholic religion. If jesus Christ who is the Son God, while being nailed to the cross, he felt pity instead of vengeance agains the Romans that before he died, he interceded and prayed to His Father to forgive the sins of the soldiers as they do not know what they are doing. At this time, why can not the priest do what the Son of God did.

  • Beguine

    The Catholic Church is primarily concerned that this will
    KO their doctrine of non-interference with reproduction,
    that the sex act is only justified in the light of procreation.

    The crumbling of this doctrine will be tantamount to the
    crumbling of the Catholic Church itself, that’s why.

    And that’s why the Catholic Church will have to fight
    tooth and nail on this RH bill.

  • blainz

    “I do not write for this generation. I am writing for other ages. If this generation could read me, they would burn my books, the work of my whole life. On the other hand, the generation which interprets these writings will be an educated generation; they will understand me and say: “Not all were asleep in the night of our grandparents”.”

    — Pilosopong Tasyo, Noli Me Tangere

    Rizal was not asleep, and his legacy is waking up the Filipino a century since his death. The educated generation has come as he predicted, and no amount of denial will reverse the tide of history. The inheritors of the friars should expect only one thing: their increasing irrelevance.

    • stromboli67

      Great excerpt.  I’ve always thought Pilosopong Tasyo character as the most astute observer and decoder of that era.  Amazing relevancy and foresight of contemporary event.  

    • ARIKUTIK

      Hi Manny (not Pacquiao), the information is refreshing and you seem like an aunthentic writer. Thanks for the info pero may nakita akong ang RH bill ay para sa mahihirap or can be discarded creatures. The exempted rich were not mentioned of course but the poor were especially named. Anyweis, let us disect RH bill. > Sec. 28 prohibited acts. May parusa ang magkakait ng RH serbisyo. This one is to enforce population control directed to the poor or else jail awaits anyone who may tell the poor that contraceptive pills will make them sick with cancer and maybe pregnant with freak babies. This section 28 is dictatorial, it even takes away freedom of opinion againts population control. Provission 1) The state shall guarantee education on “sex with out babies”. This is enforced tweaking of young minds for immorality. Called as reproductive blah blah for acceptance. 2) PRIORITISE are POOR WOMEN. Did you comprehend that! Exemptions were not mentioned but the Target is clear as the poor to be eradicated. This bill is for the benefit of the rich who will be allowed to live with out poisonous RH pills. 3) Forced funding for cancer inducing pills. It is ev*l to use my tax to inflict harm to fellow human. I say again RH pills causes cancer and Freak accidental babies of the poor. 4) Sex education = now the govt. will dictate or brainwash the children on sex with out babies . They will  turn young ones into dogs of sex with out responsibility for human natural reproductive scheme. Now then, if I am wrong, where in the provissions I was wrong ? Is eradicating the poor and tweaking young minds morally right ? The rich are the ones who makes this country Pak Daf. The poor are the ones who toiled hard for subsistence income. Now the rich and powerfull also wants to inflict cancer for the poor.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_POBZSV5PGTGUS3YA2KR2NZI3HA Alex

        I re-read the said section and found nothing wrong in it. To quote Rep. Lagman on Rufus’ statements during the period of amendments, “What is misleading are the conclusions and statements—I am sorry to say—of the distinguished gentleman”.

        It would have been nice if you can cite specific provisions followed by your interpretation so RH supporters here will know which specific provision is to be brought to discussion.

        Now tell me where in Section 28, “Prohibited Acts”, is it indicated that poor women will be forced to avail of the RH services? Because what I found is on the contrary:

        “(b) Any public official who, personally or through a subordinate, prohibits or restricts the delivery of legal and medically-safe reproductive health care services, including family planning; or forces, coerces or induces any person to use such services”.

        To sum it up, there is nothing wrong with the provisions, only your interpretation.

    • ARIKUTIK

      Do you mean Faith in the Almighty is vanishing into irrelevance ? Whew, so this is the vission of Abnoy president. The purpose of pushing the RH bill so that people may stop believing in God. Rizal a hero ? he was a fanatical supporter of the Spanish govt., that’s why he refuse to join Katipunan. Rizal attacked the church because he is not a Catholic but one who turn to other religion. Now then, dumbs attacked the church but can not defend the RH bill. The bill is evil to be inflicted to the poor. The pro RH is hiding the truth by attacking bishops. And one is Dumb too……

      • observer_din

        yan na lang laging panakot ninyo, ang RH bill ay evil. wala na ba kayong maisip na mas matalinong paraan para ma-justify ninyo ang dahilan ng pagkontra ninyo? Wag naman ninyo gawing bobo ang mga tao. Baka maski rugby boys di ninyo makumbinsi pag yan lang ang argumento ninyo.. haaissstt!!!

  • jenny lim

    It’s sad how blind the people are:  They accused the Church of meddling politics when it only stands on its teachings on faith and morals – in relation to sanctity of life – and nothing else.  And people here threw all sorts of accusations and attacks.

    But what is clear as the blue sky is Malacanang meddling of the affairs of other co-equal branch of government.  What is clear is the president who mustered his power to control and manipulate so as to give way his own definition “tuwid na daan”. 

    And the bases are on surveys and the 113?  Oh common’, we know that surveys are surveys – business.  And congressmen – especially LP – remove the Pork Barrel treat, we’ll see.  I just talked with our congressman [an LP] – it’s sad he did not vote, because as he said, “grabe ang pressure ng malacanang, at ayaw kong mamulubi para pang proyekto sa aking constituents kaya di nalang ako bumoto.”

    And you accuse the bishops and the Church of meddling politics?  Where is logic and reason here?  Or simply blinded by your misplaced anger with the Catholic church and the bishops because you simply don’t want to be guided and corrected?

    • PikonNaKami

      Are you saying Ms Lim that if the RH Bill is passed, you will be forced to commit sin because of the mere existence of this bill?  Are you saying that your faith is not strong enough that a law created by mortals can sway you and the other faithful Catholics?

      If your belief in your Church’s teachings are strong enough, then even if the RH Bill is passed you will hold steadfast.  

      If you are a strong Catholic, you should not be afraid of the passage of RH Bill.

      • jenny lim

        It’s what you are saying but not mine. I have nothing to fear but I can’t close my eyes and shut my mouth from saying the truth even if it does not condone the world – because I’m a Catholic.  And that spells the difference of a Catholic from the rest.

      • wawangpenoy

         Just curious about your ignorance and stupidity. Can you please tell me what made you believe you are more catholic or should I say a better catholic than the rest of us? Please enumerate, ‘cuz you are full of contradiction which actually reflects your ignorance, stupidity and hypocrisy.

        And something else, what are you and tagle talking about when you say ‘truth’? what is the truth in this issue? This is purely a matter of belief and principle. Truth is not an issue here? That’s the problem with people who think they are so righteous and godly. All opposing views becomes untruth. WTF?

      • Rey Cabague

        Wake up Jenny… Drink your Milk and Look around your surroundings!

      • TeabagDeluxe

        No True Scotsman fallacy – nothing to see here but an idiot, let’s go folks.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4QAIR53YIPJLMPSQJZTOJIGBVI Jaz

        I agree! And if these bishops are truly confident that the majority of Catholic faithfuls respect and obey their Catholic teachings, then they have nothing to fear even if the RH Bill becomes a law. Ang gawin na lang nila, magsermon ng magsermon sa mga miyembro nila sa simbahan na huwag sumunod sa RH bill.Ang hindi sumunod itiwalag nila.As simple as that.

    • joshmale2004

      I tend to disagree with your statement that Malacanang is meddling on the affairs of other co-equal branch of Government. In the first place, the Church, not limited to Catholic, has never been a part of the Government set up nor even a co-equal Branch of the Government. Under Article II, section 6 of our Constitution, states that “The Separation of Church and State shall be inviolable.” This is very clear. Now, the Church being mentioned in our Constitution does not give exclusivity to the Catholic hierarchy as Catholic is not the only accepted religion in our country. I don’t see any indication that the State is encroaching into the church territory, nor creating which favor one religion to another as it is not creating a law that impede the people in exercising their religious activity and belief. Also, morality is not a right exclusive to the Catholic church. Government has also the right discern and create laws that which it may deemed not only legal but also morality right. Morality is not a right exclusive to the Catholics as there are other religions who also has a right to say any matter on morality. Have you ever thought why only the Catholic religion is making a fuss on the State affair while the rest and other religions are silent? Silence can be presumed that other Churches are respecting the State’s affairs.

      • jenny lim

        Malacanang is meddling on the affairs of Congress [a co-equal branch of government]. Your too much presumptions betrayed you.

      • joshmale2004

        I’m sorry but mine is not a presumption and is based on what is written in our Constitution. I don’t know where you got your impression of a “co-equal branch of government”. If you read it in a news article, then news writer has erred on this information. Simply put this logic. If the Catholic church is an equal branch of the Government, then INC, JIL, El shaddai, Charismatic Ecumenical Churches, CBCP, Mormons. Jehovah’s Witnesses and all other Churches form part of our Government and should have a representation in Congress and the Senate and shall ALSO PAY THEIR TAXES BEING PART OF THE GOVERNMENT.

    • catmanjohn

      Are you protecting and praising all the countless cases of pedophilia and child molestations your Catholic priests have committed over the years? Your blind faith (ignorance), creates a haven for the devil. 

      • jenny lim

        I know you are not at peace with yourself. I understand and consider your situation.

      • catmanjohn

        Oh do you?… little miss goodie two shoes.
        come over here, and slowly unveil your piety, and let me delve into the abyss of your repressed desires, and together we will slide into the dizzying pleasures of eternal bliss, where being naughty couldn’t be so nice… hahahaha.. Is this the kind of ‘peace’ you’re talking about? 

    • Janch

      Talk about accusations and attacks!

    • stromboli67

      You have this fallacious idea that the church and bishops are the fountainhead of wisdom, morality & truth. WRONG.  The church is of human construct and the prelates are no better than you or I as human beings.  Don’t exaggerate their virtues.  They’re no more intelligent or virtuous than the average Pinoy.  So it’s rather gratuitous of you to presume that people should subject themselves to the “guidance” & “corrections” of these bishops.  That’s being naive.  

      The Church, history tells us, is no better or worse than your typical man-made institution. It has had its share of corruption, torture, genocide and misdeeds.  So when it comes to HR Bill, the guidance should not come from the Church but from one’s own moral compass.  Also, consider that Pinoys don’t belong to a monolithic religious belief, so it’s laughable for you to castigate others for not getting their “guidance” and “correction” from the bishops. LOL

    • Carlos Santiago

      in a mature democracy like america, it is expected of a president to promote the passage of his advocacies or bills or appointees first hand as vigorously as the opposition can muster. he make personal phone calls to individual senators/congressmen if only to sway their votes. the best way to show to the people that he means business and he can deliver. here in the philippines, we call it meddling. on the other hand the priests can do whatever they want to promote ‘the church’ issues may it be political or religious or whatever. and we call it, what? just fill in the  blank. you may accuse me of blasphemy. and it will be another story all together. whew!

    • KapitanBagwis

      ” Where is logic and reason here?” ~ where is yours? It will do you good and will expand your knowledge to study the history of the Roman Catholic Church.  

    • TeabagDeluxe

      Did you get raped by a priest as a child, and liked it?

  • Rap88

    Fanaticism, dogma or fear? whatever you may call it, but catholics must vote for catholic values and will protect it, fight for it, endure it. No to RH, but I do respect the freewill of the pro RH.

  • jenny lim

     “Why
    are those who are notoriously undisciplined and unmoral also most
    contemptuous of religion and morality? They are trying to solace their
    own unhappy lives by pulling the happy down to their own abysmal
    depths.” ― Fulton J. Sheen

    • PikonNaKami

      Why are you contemptuous of my religion just because I am not a Catholic?  Why are you contemptuous of my morality because I believe that my wife and I should only have 2 children so we can take good care of them?

      • jenny lim

         Reflect more, you simply missed it!

  • jenny lim

    “Never
    forget that there are only two philosophies to rule your life: the one
    of the cross, which starts with the fast and ends with the feast. The
    other of Satan, which starts with the feast and ends with the headache.”
    ― Fulton J. Sheen, Seven Words of Jesus and Mary: Lessons from Cana and Calvary

    • catmanjohn

      Why does there have to be just feast or famine, or just two philosophies? your premise is wrong, just as in your premise for the RH Bill. Truth is what matters, and yes we must not forget that we have all fallen, and it is important to find our paths back to God, for which the teachings of Jesus Christ will lead us to, but good or bad, it is part of the experience and journey, and how one deals with it, will be who that person is. Let others find their truths, as you should, without pretenses and comparisons.

    • andrew lim

      another false dichotomy- as if there are only two choices all the time, and mutually exclusive. This is a favorite tactic for arguments by the anti-RH.

      • johnlagrimas

        Another dirty tactic of a blind Pro RH!  Yours is false monotony.

    • Magsasaka

      i guess nobody is biting that anymore, you’re way of deception has weakened.
      RH bill is not about religion, it is about our society.

      • johnlagrimas

         …not for foolish people like you.

      • Magsasaka

        not for ignorant like you

    • Rey Cabague

      Jenny… get over with the Religion hindi natin kailangan yan para umulad ang Pilipinas… Sila lang itong yumayaman pero ang sambayanan Pilipino hirap na hirap na… bakit hindi nila ibigay sa taong bayan ang bilyong bilyong investment nila!

      • johnlagrimas

         You get over with your self. Your posts show you’re full of hatred.

      • Rey Cabague

        Hindi Hatred John… kundi pagmamahal sa Bayan… nasa ikaw maging mapagmahal din sa bayan… nakapunta ka na ba sa ibat ibang progresibong bansa? for sure hindi pa…. dahil sa ibang bansa yan ang meron sa kanila… ang pagmamahal sa bansa!

      • johnlagrimas

        Pagmamahal? To give condoms and pills to the poor? 

        I’ve been in Europe, Australia and US and I’ve found out this country is still the happiest when it comes to family life.

        Live there so you may learn and not just accuse known people with you who is unknown. Yan ba ang pagmamahal mo sa bayan?

        But hatred, yes, it’s so obvious with your posts. Shape up bro. Be watchful because at the end of the day, when you examine yourself and listen into it – you know the real score – ‘wag mong idamay ang ibang taong kilala – with your bunch of accusations which already proven wrong and were just sensationalized by media for business.

      • Rey Cabague

        Sige John… kaya mo bang ibenta at ibigay sa lahat ng mahihirap ang ari ariaan mo? do your share boy… may natulong ka na ba sa bansang Pilipinas? marami nang gutom sa pilipinas at ang RH BIll ang isang Solusyon para macontrol ang paglaki ng population ng bansa natin. Yes Happy countries ang mga yan dahil marami silang resources. tayo anong resources natin? mga OFW? hindi ba?… We are all bitter seeing our beloved country suffering from Poverty caused by too much politics and religion. TAMA na pagod na taong bayan!

    • TeabagDeluxe

      Did you get raped by a priest as a child, and liked it?

      • jenny lim

         …you’re the perfect example of what I’ve posted here.

      • TeabagDeluxe

        Aww, poor you. Point on the doll where the bad (good?) priest touched you. Don’t worry, we won’t tell anyone.

      • johnlagrimas

        Bro., malaki problema mo!  ‘Yung utak mo, di bagay dito, dapat dun ka sa erotic site.

        Ayaw pumatol ni Maam Jenny sa’yo kasi ang kagaya mo ay HIV carrier.  Kawawa ka naman.

      • TeabagDeluxe

        Tanggalin mo muna yung ari ng pari sa bibig mo bago ka magsalita.

  • Carlos Santiago

    isa lang ang spirituwal at makaDiyos na pang unawa sa nangyayari ang nabasa ko dito. ang kay Manila Archbishop Luis Antonio Cardinal Tagle. sabi nya…

    “But we do not take it as a defeat of truth—for truth shall prevail, especially the truth about human life, marriage and the family,” Tagle said.
    In a statement he issued before he left for Vietnam, Tagle called for “healing” after the heated debates over the proposed law while adding that the vote would spur the Church to work harder to defend the “sanctity of life.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NNH3CUMD5FUUPUOV4OM3S7WPAQ suns

    I am optimistic that the RH bill will be enacted as law.. High time for us to go in flow of time…The future of the majority of Filipinos should not be in the hand of Catholic bishops…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

    Malamang yung mga pro-RH congressmen, may mga kabit. Ayaw nilang mabuntis yung mga iyon.
    Kaya may 3-year supply sila ng contraceptives from drug companies.

    • Rey Cabague

      Sino ba ang wala? Mga Pari nga may mga Kabit… sila Congressman pa kaya! hehe

  • salvador contreras

    The Bishops fight against the RH Bill is not about morality, or rights of the unborn.  It is about power, pure and simple.  Without the poor masses under their strong influence the power of the Bishop will be eroded.  The poorer the country go the mightier they will become.  They have become even more popish than the Pope.  

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/MV4JC4DEGZJQKBIJMWEZ4KOKRE Arnel

      Tumpak.  Nanginginig na ang mga Padre Damaso.

    • Magsasaka

      i agree bro, the lesser the number of mangmang, inc the weaker influence they have

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

    “RH BILL…Bishops,It ain´t over,not a KO”…Not even a “doomsday” in our country,Instead it must be the NEW BEGINNING of better future among Filipinos!

    • TeabagDeluxe

      End of the world na sana para sa mga “banal na aso santong kabayong” mga to.

  • justjarred

    Dapat yata ipwesto na sa kongreso ang CBCP e. Sobrang pakikialam na sa trabaho ng Kongreso ang alam gawin e.

  • justjarred

    Naririnig ko na ang magiging sermon ng pari sa mga susunod na misa. Ipagduduldulan na naman nila sa parokyano ang pagiging anti RH nila. Sasabihin nila na Pastoral Letter yun!

    • Magsasaka

       tama sabay hingi ng abuloy para sa sex escapades nila hehehe

      • observer_din

        di lang yun, baka pag tuluyang naging batas ang RH baka sila paa ang mangunguna sa paghingi ng libreng condom sa gobyerno, mahilig sila sa libre eh.. hehehe

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

      pakikingan kaya sila ????

  • jenny lim

    It’s unfortunate that some people are so rebellious when at the end, they know or they will know, they’re at loss and in peril.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PNTIGXL3JZVKOJDRXXDYGGBUUY Jerry

     Bishops, Priests. What do they know of family, child bearing and rearing and putting food on the table? Yeah, head knowledge and we are being lectured by them. Get a wife and get a life.

    • duviz7533

      pare,sana gumamit si bishop bacani ng contraceptives noong araw

      • Rey Cabague

        Sana gumamit ng contraceptives ang mga magulang nya para hindi na sya pinanganak!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Another STUPID MIND from a STUPID and IGNORANT being!

      • Rey Cabague

        that bounces on you for sure!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        you just don t get it! halata naman kasi IGNORANT na STUPID pa!

        Bulalik ka sa grade 1! O magpaturo ka dun sa pastor mo! 

      • Rey Cabague

        MXSCLXMXN – Isa kang Typical na Pinoy na mayabang at Typical na Katoliko… isa kang arogante na walang sustansya at laman ang utak. Peace sa iyo fellow Human Being

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        ayusing mo un comment mo para maayos un sagot sayo.

      • antonioluna

        ahhh… putangina mo! hahaha

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      Very STUPID COMMENT!

      WHAT DOES PINOY knows about it? He does not have a family!

      STUPID. Knowledge is can be studied and learned. Its the fools and stupid like you making such stupid and ignorant comments!

      Bumalik ka sa grade 1! SO STUPID!

      Cge nga ano ang natapos mo sa academics? STUPID!

  • joshmale2004

    I’m sorry but mine is not a presumption and is based on what is written in our Constitution. I don’t know where you got your impression of a “co-equal branch of government”. If you read it in a news article, then news writer has erred on this information. Simply put this logic. If the Catholic church is an equal branch of the Government, then INC, JIL, El shaddai, Charismatic Ecumenical Churches, CBCP, Mormons. Jehovah’s Witnesses and all other Churches form part of our Government and should have a representation in Congress and the Senate and shall ALSO PAY THEIR TAXES BEING PART OF THE GOVERNMENT.

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/DWRHqlNoppBOATBbtwpQkaAEQdMOmejmkPJb#24a25 jeff

      the catholic church, an equal branch of the government? = executive, legislative, judiciary, and catholic church?  So, what do you call of its chief? president for executive, speaker of the house, and senate president for legislative, chief justice for the judiciary, the chief WHAT for the catholic branch?

      • joshmale2004

        hehehe. Yun ang sabi ni Jenny Lim Pre. Hindi ko nga din alam kung anong itatawag sa kanila ngayon. Di ko mmakita sa constitution eh.

  • Magsasaka

    damasos say it aint over yet we still have dirty things to make to overturn the event hehehe

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fred-Mil/100002160424509 Fred Mil

    Blah blah blah blah blah…. the people do not support you bishops!!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

    who is afraid of the bishops !!!! they are the ones who are scared because they are losing their grip on their flock…..times have changed this no longer the era of the damasos…….

  • UrHONOR

    O, mga BANTAY SAL…BOTO…..ano nang nangyari sa power-power ninyo?  PFFFTTT.  Hindi lang sa kinompromiso ninyo ang position at sarili ninyo, nagmukha pa kayong mga kantanod….para kayong damo sa halamanan ng bulaklak.  Sana, makikihalo man dinl ang kayo sa mga normal na tao, hindi na kayo nagbistida pa at nagsuot ng pang-circus na takip sa ulo.  Ano ngayon ang iisipin ng mga sheeple ninyo?  “Ay yong mga bisyap nagmukhang lantang talulot sa Congress….wala ng pumapansin!”  Mahirap kasi ang malasing sa authority at power…. maraming nagagawang ligaw sa landas.  Tulad lang ni Pueblos na manghihingi lang, e, demandeing pa ng “brand new” at huwag used dahil walang kwenta ang used.  Mantakin mo yan…bisyap yan, ha.  At pag may nagsabi na isolated yang pangyayaring yan, at hindi naman din, ISA LANG…isa lang na ganyan ay sapat na upang gumawa ng definitive conclusion sa pag-aasal ng mga bisyaps.  At ngayon, ang tatapng ng ano na humarap pa sa madla na akala mo kung sinong mga emperador ng kalangitan, e, maghuhuntahan lang pala sila.

  • AgnosticLeader

    @mang empoy… the mere suggestion that you are going to burn me as a sacrifice for your god is an admission itself. you and your god are evil. you are worse than the nazis. you call murdering someone for an experiment as helping others? your mind is twisted by your religion. judaism and christianity, in general, do not condone human sacrifice. so you must be a member of a fringe lunatic cult that kill people in the name of your god. and mind you… threatening to kill someone in the blog can land you in serious legal problems. but i don’t find you threatening, you are just plain stupid. 

  • weeshfulThinker

    This bishops doesn’t know what it is to be a “poor” Filipino. Just look at where they live and the cars they use. There are many crisis going on around our country (e.g. Pablo) and where are they? In the congress lobbying their so called “beliefs” and “views”. They are all hypocrites. Why don’t they just go to their churches and just continue “praying”. Its the only thing they are good at. (not for all priests).

    I know not all priest/bishops are like this. So I just wish the good ones are the one being followed properly.

  • KapitanBagwis

    Wolves in sheep’s clothing invaded the hall of congress, where they don’t belong.!!! Pathetic bishops and mga uto uto.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      Sabi ng pastor, u should give me your 10% from your salary. Ito naman si kapitanBagwis (daw), pastor ito un 10% ko. 

      See sino ang uto uto! FOOL! IGNORANT! 

      • KapitanBagwis

        Ah, ikaw ang uto uto kasi nasaktan ka sa sinabi ko hehehe…

        “Sabi ng pastor, u should give me your 10% from your salary”. Ikaw ang ignoramus kasi hindi mo alam na sa Bibliya nanggaling ang ang pagbibigay ng 10% ng lahat ng kinikita mo, na ibabalik mo sa Dios.

        Ano kang laseng kotoliko ni hindi mo alam ang sinasabi ng Bibliya? Mga Ipokrito. Kawawa ka naman, inuuto ka ng mga pari at obispo. Pagaralan mo ang history ng relihiyon mo kung saan nanggaling para ka matauhan. PWE

  • $20733759

    To those who are either pro or con… your duty is simple….Magbantay, Magmasid, Makinig at Manindigan!

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/DWRHqlNoppBOATBbtwpQkaAEQdMOmejmkPJb#24a25 jeff

    Nothing to be surprised about crispin remulla’s withdrawal from co-authorship of RH 
    Bill. This guy put to shame the NP when he talked to the ampatuans for support during 
    the last presidential election. He also did not sign nor support the impeachment of 
    ex-chef justice corona. So what good would the people expect from this guy? NADA!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    Look at those idiots thinking they could influence the votes.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      Tell that to your HUTHUTERONG PASTORS dun kay PACMAN. 

      Kapal ng mukha nyo! Dun na kayo natutulog, naliligo at kumakain! Pulupulutong na kayo dun. Humingi pa ng tickets para manuod ng laban. Kapal din na mukha nyo!

      Nagmamalinis pa kayo you HYPOCRITES! IDIOTS! Mga linta!

      • joshmale2004

        Ituro mo nga kung saan sa Bible na mismong sinabi ni Jesus Christ and God the Father that only the Catholics are children of God? Kung di mo kayang hanapin, wag mong i persecute ibang religion dahil mas lalo kang nalulubog sa impiyerno. At please bawasan mo pagmumura mo dahil mas lalo kang nadidikit kay satanas niyan.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IGLQQ2TTZF3BAWUHUWLFWVPZDE Vladymir

        Lakas naman ng apog mo? tumigil ka na wala namang pumapatol sa mg comments mo,paulit ulit lang,copy and paste lang ginagawa mo walang sense.

  • Rey Cabague

    Mga Kampon ni Padre Damaso at mga Pulitikong Tuta nito, Maawa na kayo sa Bansang Pilipinas! Tama na ang mga pangloloko nyo sa taong BAYAN!

    May awa nga ba kayo or manhid lang?

  • Commentator

    I think these bishops should show concern for what happened in New Bataan, Cateel., Boston and Banganga in Mindanao. These are poor people and they need a lot of help and most of them are Catholics.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      See your confuse. This is the main responsibilities of the GOVERNMENT not the church!

      Kay PINOY ito! San you quick action nya? See wala! Ilang weeks na, hirap na un mga tao dun! Service from the GOVERNMENT is a FUXXING FAILURE! Ito palang di na maasikaso RH BILL pa!  

      Nagmamagaling ang governemnt but look, super PALPAK sa SERVICES!

      PORK BARREL sa TONGRESSMEN para bumuto ng RH BILL!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQ7FKNAHJQWEDZKOGGWF7E3ZZU Gene

        i can see that you cannot use your and you’re correctly. that is stupidity.

      • antonioluna

        problem?

      • observer_din

        Di nga problem ng RCC yun, pero madami doon miyembro ng RCC. Pero sige sa gobyerno na kung sa gobyerno, pero bakit pag problema sa gobyerno lang?? pag pamamalakad ng gobyerno gusto ng mga obispo kasali sila? Di ba sobrang panlalamang naman yata yun?

  • TeabagDeluxe

    “But we do not take it as a defeat of truth—for truth shall prevail, especially the truth about human life, marriage and the family,”
    What truth? Oh, the “truth” that the bishops want their gullible followers to believe in. This “truth” is nothing but a figment of their misguided imagination.

    Sorry bishops. I believe in God, but not in your “guidance”. Practice what you preach, hypocrites.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      Tell that to your pastor and ask him where your 10% went! You HYPOCRITE!

      • TeabagDeluxe

        Run along, child. Go to your priest, I think he has a “surprise” for your mouth.

      • Rey Cabague

        hahaha… good one!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        and your born again friends are okay to say hypocrite to us and me no? 

        lolo mong kalbo!

      • TeabagDeluxe

        Assuming too much, are we? You mad?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    If not for our Catholic Faith, this country could have been a Muslim country.

    What have your religion contributed? Divisions, confusions, self-centered religion founded by a human person (INC, JIL, Dating Daan, Aglipay and all protestant religions) and 10% money milking church!

    • Rey Cabague

      Religion in General are Dying! More and more people are now realizing the we don’t need religion to have a better and moral life.! The Reign of Hypocrites are coming to an end! very soon! 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Baka ikaw bukas wala na, you STUPID HYPOCRITE! 

        Yun RCC have been here for centuries! Yun reliyon mo kailan lang? Kahapon? Tapos nagmamagaling ka na!

        STUPID IDIOT ANIMAL!

      • Rey Cabague

        Hmmmmm another typical talking FOOL. Yes I am an ANIMAL but not the STUPID which is you. Yes RCC have been here for Centuries and for Centuries many people are enslaved by this Cult. I have no Religion my dear friend and its been HERE since the first breath of man.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Awwsss…dito ka pa…still a STUPID and IGNORANT comment!

        No religion ka? Kawawa ka naman. Ilang billion un tao dito sa mundo may religion. Kaw wala! Mahiya ka sa nanay mo o sa lolo mo! 

        Bka gusto mo dyn sa born again, medyo malapit lapit utak mo sa kanila!Good you admit your an ANIMAL! STUPID IGNORANT ANIMAL!

      • Rey Cabague

        Hehehehe… mga katoliko nga naman… isang araw mauubos kayo… hindi mo ba nakikita ang Trend Mr. pakonti ng pakonti ang bilang nyo dahil sa mga taong kagaya mo. Kawawang tao… yan ba na natutunan mo sa pagigin kasapi ng RCC? bastos at mapagmura… no wonder :)

      • Rey Cabague

        Ikaw ano ka…. Dust, Abo or Dirt? sino ang Ignorant sa atin sa tingin mo :) hehe

      • joshmale2004

        Pwede ba bawas bawasan mo kamumura mo. Sinog maniniwala sa yong Christiano ka at naniniwala ka sa Diyos sa mga pananalita mo.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQ7FKNAHJQWEDZKOGGWF7E3ZZU Gene

        a false religion existing for two thousand years is still a false religion. if you can tell me where in the Bible I can find catholism or any of its derivative words, i will convert.

        catholism — admitted by the church answering to that name — means “universal church.” simply translated it worships anything and anyone. kahit mantsa ng alkitran o langis na nag-korteng krus, dadalasan nila. kahit bakla na nakakita ng dancing sun sun, tapos umamin na bakla siya at nagsisinungaling, sasambahin pa rin… kahit puno ng saging. kahit ang basketball player na si ronald tubid.

      • antonioluna

        woohoo, nagngi-ngitngit na si pikon! hahaha

    • joshmale2004

      And who do you think founded the roman catholic religion? Not human?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        HAHAHA! kaw isa ka pa. kaya pala ganyan ka kasi wala kang alam! STUPID IGNORANT!

        Tanungin mo pastor mo! BOBOtic ka pala!

      • joshmale2004

        Hindi mo naman pala kayang i explain at panindigan mga sinasabi mo eh. Sige magmura ka pa para mas mapalapit ka kay satanas kesa sa diyos.

      • antonioluna

        haha sus, napa hiya ka na naman? naiiyak ka na ba sa pagka pikon? talo ka na, kupal! hahaha

      • observer_din

        pakitaan mo kami ng proof na si Jesus ang nagtayo ng RCC?

    • joshmale2004

      Wrong. It’s our democratic system and the steadfast stand of our Government and its Armed Forces ever since early years that saved our country from communism. Kung wala tayong Government at sariling Armed Forces, anong magagawa ng Simbahang Katoliko sa mga Sundalo ni Joma. Tututukan ng Krus para malusaw sila? 

    • Cruxofthematter

      You have a point. But this is a question of which is the lesser evil. Have you ever considered that BEFORE Catholicism was invented, there were already Christians (Acts 11:26)? This should raise the very interesting question within you, just when did Catholicism start? How did it start? Search and you shall find.

    • Cruxofthematter

      Agree the Protestants came from RC. But dig more.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQ7FKNAHJQWEDZKOGGWF7E3ZZU Gene

      geez… what if we’re muslim? better muslim than catholic!

  • Cruxofthematter

    Legalistic Pharisees in a Philippine Catholic setting. They lay too much burden upon the people, but they themselves do not lift a finger to carry the least of these burdens.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4NDRNR4NH2Q4EXS7TMWEEAUWGE Pope

    If the bishops thought they still had some small, small chance. It’s all gone now.

    The President just certified the RH Bill as URGENT.

    This puts the entire political muscle of the president behind the passage of the bill.

    Shake hands na mga bishops, and join the rest of the country as we move forward to a new Philippines.

  • beer_leader

    One of the Philippines’ most prominent Roman Catholic clerics is being investigated for sexual misconduct.

    Bishop Teodoro Bacani is accused of sexually harassing his secretary earlier this year.

    The bishop issued a statement on Monday saying he was “deeply sorry for the consequences of any inappropriate expression of affection to my secretary”.

    He then left the Philippines for a planned holiday in America.

    Bishop Bacani, 62, is one of the country’s best-known priests.

    He writes a regular newspaper column, in which he is an outspoken government critic and advocate for the poor.
    nasa bbc news yan july 9,2003 pag ganito ang klase ng leader na NAPAKALINIS NG BUDHI paano at saan niya aakayin ang flock .depensa pa niya noon na yung babae na nag akusa sa kanya ng rape ay malandi at ito ang nagpakita ng motibo.tsk tsk tsk..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      At kayo malinis? 

      Buking na buking un mga HUTHUTERONG PASTOR nyo kay PACMAN! Bakit wala kayong RAPIST? MAGNANAKAW? SINUNGALING? Talagang malinis kayo?

      Sabihin mo yan sa lolo mong kalbo!

      • beer_leader

         father masakit ba katotothanan? layas ipokritong mga pedophile na to!

      • Rey Cabague

        Typical na katoliko yang si Mxsclxmxn… isang hipokritong wagas!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        hahaha peke na reliyon nyo, retokado pa bible nyo ang labas kayo pa ang tama. 

        ang galing ni PASTOR! 10% naman dyn!

      • beer_leader

        kala ko ba maka diyos kayo?bakit pag nakita niyo katotothanan at naubusan na kayo ng argumento eh PURO KABASATUSAN NA LUMALABAS SA BIBIG NIYO. talaga itong si father kunyari mabait pero pag nabuko kalokohan MABANGIS PA SA LEON!

      • johnlagrimas

        At least siya bastos, ikaw ginawa mong bastos ang iba sa dumi ng paningin mo. 

      • beer_leader

        nagsalita si pedophile priest.tama lahat tayo makasalanan pera lang sa inyo na sobrang lilinis ng budhi.

      • beer_leader

         so ok lang pala sayo father ang maging bastos?langyang pag iisip yan oo.nga pala puro kabastusan pinaggagagawa niyo kaya ok lang maging bastos ha.

    • johnlagrimas

      Ang galing mo mag research sa kasalanan ng ibang tao.  Daig mo pa ang mga Pariseo. Mabuhay ka – galing sa mga kautak mo!

      Pero ang totoo, bitter person ka.  You’re unhappy and simply frustrated and you’re using this blog as your escape and means of expression.  Di ba?

      • beer_leader

         pinapakita lang dito kung anong klaseng bishop ang nangunguna at nagmamalinis.  .PASENSYA NA FATHER NASAKTAN KA BA SA KATOTOHANAN?wag kayo makialam sa pulitika period.pano mo nalaman bitter ako eh masaya nga ako at nanalo ang yes vote.ikaw at ang mga ibang ipokrito dito ang natalo at very obvious na mga bitter. cge na layas ka na dyan at magsulat ka ng sa sarili mo comment father.

      • johnlagrimas

        Lumayas ka Sister. ‘Wag kang magpunla ng mga masasamang balita dito, ayusin mong buhay mo. 

      • beer_leader

        tigilan na kamo pang hahalay para walang masaman balita.gets mo na father

      • beer_leader

         nakaharap ka ba sa salamin habang nag ta type ka father?talaga ityong si bitter ocampo.natalo lang sa botohan parang mababangis na leon na nagwawala dito lalo na pag naubusan na ng argumento.

      • johnlagrimas

        Sister, maligo ka muna. Kaya nga ang bilis mo makita ang dumi ng iba kasi madumi na ang paningin mo.  At ‘yung argumento mo – alam mo naman anung “motive” mo, di ba?  Alam mo ba ang Ad Hominem? Sus!

      • beer_leader

        nakupo napikon lalo si pedophile priest

      • beer_leader

         linisin mo yung bibig mo at mag mimisa ka pa mamaya.talaga to si pedophile father oo

      • observer_din

        relax brod, ang mumog na ng asido para walang traces na lumuhod na naman sya.. hehehe

      • beer_leader

        paboritong pangmumog ng mga yan ay clorox kaya laging amoy clorox mga banal na bibig ng mga pedophiles na yan hehe

      • beer_leader

        bakit ayaw mo ba malaman ng mga tao ang kawalangyaan na pinag gagagawa niyong mga pedophile priests kayo?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQ7FKNAHJQWEDZKOGGWF7E3ZZU Gene

        mali ka ng vocation. hindi na sinasanto ang mga pari kase mulat na ang karamihan sa mga tao. ang tinggin ng taong mulat sa pari, pedophile.

      • beer_leader

         saka paalala father.hindi mo na kailangang mag research dahil halos araw araw nasa news ang mga katulad mong pedophile priests.

      • johnlagrimas

        Sister, matanda ka na. ‘Wag ka na “sumampit” dito.

      • beer_leader

        nakupo tinamaan si pedophile priest.bato bato sa langit ang tamaan wag maging bastos hehe

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQ7FKNAHJQWEDZKOGGWF7E3ZZU Gene

        mahusay ka sumangga sa kasalanan ng mga pari. marami pang kaso si bacani. 

  • boybakal

     RH BILL
    Bishops: It ain’t over, not a KO….Parinig kay Pacquiao.

  • johnlagrimas

    It is been said;

    “If
    the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you
    belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do
    not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is
    why the world hates you. If the world persecuted me, it will persecute
    you also.”

    The bishops and the Church stood firmly on the teachings of Christ, and now they are persecuted in this blog.

    Well, at the end of the day, the bishops and the church are at peace of mind because they are only doing the Master’s command – this is not their fight but of Jesus Christ – the founder of the Church.  In the end, it’s always the triumph of good and those who subscribe the wickedness of the world are put to shame.

    And it’s clear that these people [disgruntled and lack parental guidance] are not at peace from within that’s why they are expressing their frustrations in life here.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fred-Mil/100002160424509 Fred Mil

      stoop firmly mata mo!!!

      teaching ba ni Christ na manghingi ng SUV sa corrupt na presidente?
      teaching ba ni Christ na sabihin “ok lang mandaya sa election, everybody is doing it”

      mag isip ka ‘ngas!!!

      • johnlagrimas

        You’re out of context – liar!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQ7FKNAHJQWEDZKOGGWF7E3ZZU Gene

        …and the catholic church is always telling the truth? what about santa claus (satan claws), st. george, st christopher? madonna? sto. nino? st. peter as sabungero, that peter’s remain is biried in the vatican… manny more lies, dude. you’re just too immersed in them that you can not open your eyes anymore.

        remember: x’mas is pagan — your pope had admitted that in his latest book. xmas is a lie, right?

      • observer_din

        tama na pre ansakit na ng dibdib nyan, baka atakehin sa puso kawawa naman.. hehehe

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQ7FKNAHJQWEDZKOGGWF7E3ZZU Gene

      the parasite church, the wealthiest church in the universe, the most powerful organization of old men, the most powerful pedophile ring and money laundering raketeers being persecuted? wow! what a laugh!

  • joshmale2004

    ANDITO NA NAMAN MGA PAGANS DISGUISING AS LOYAL CATHOLICS. MAHAHALATA MO SILA SA LUTONG NILANG MAGMURA. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      you ve been calling us hypocrites. when we return the favor to you, ayaw mo?

      ano nasaktan ka? gusto nyo kayo lang? kala ko malinis kayo? kung sa babay PEKE ng nman reliyon nyo. retokado pa bible nyo. what do you expect of the outcome? Magaling mameke at magretokado ng katutuhanan! 

      Expose nyo nga yun mga huthuterong pastor nyo! Kala nyo di kayo mabuking? Anyway, from the start buking ng kayo na may PEKENG RELIYON!

      • joshmale2004

        Sa ibang kaaway mo siguro dito. Wag mo ko isali dahil never kitang minura sa mga comment ko sa u unless ikaw ang mag umpisa baka gawin ko. Kaso civilized akong tao. Hanapin mo lahat mga post ko kung may halong mura at bayaran kita.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        sabihin mo yan sa mga ka born again mo!

      • joshmale2004

        magdasal ka na lang pagan para makita mo tunay na Diyos.

      • joshmale2004

        Bakit ka pumipiyok sa post ko sa taas. Wala naman akong binanggit na name. Hehehe. Natamaan ka ba sa katotohanan?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQ7FKNAHJQWEDZKOGGWF7E3ZZU Gene

        you haven’t read The Bible, I’m sure kaya ganyan ka. where in The Bible that you can pray to idols? (gaganti ‘yan na hindi naman sila sa idols sumasamba. palusot ‘yun. If you cannot pray na walang ano man sa harap mo, gumawa ka ng altar na bato NA HINDI PA NADADAANAN NG ANUMANG METAL! i bet you don’t know that because catholism is a mambo-jambo religion with its own set of ethics and DOGMAs.) where in The Bible can you find: Magsimba ka ng LINGGO AT PISTANG PANGILING!?”

        Luther had 99 thesis against the parasite church. rizal had several more. 

        And where in The Bible that bishops and priests can molest children?

      • antonioluna

        nyahahaha hindi mo mapigilan mag react? aminadong gag0 at tanga! wahahahaha

    • beer_leader

       nasa ibaba mo yung isa

      • joshmale2004

        Obvious pre. Pumiyok agad eh.

    • beer_leader

       nagwawala na ang mga bitter ocampos na natalo sa botohan

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/DWRHqlNoppBOATBbtwpQkaAEQdMOmejmkPJb#24a25 jeff

    The RH issue comes at a time when the anti-RH bishops’ credibility is at its lowest; while the pro-RH is supported by  a popular president.

  • ARIKUTIK

    Hi Manny (not Pacquiao), the information is refreshing and you seem like an aunthentic writer. Thanks for the info pero may nakita akong ang RH bill ay para sa mahihirap or can be discarded creatures. The exempted rich were not mentioned of course but the poor were especially named. Anyweis, let us disect RH bill. > Sec. 28 prohibited acts. May parusa ang magkakait ng RH serbisyo. This one is to enforce population control directed to the poor or else jail awaits anyone who may tell the poor that contraceptive pills will make them sick with cancer and maybe pregnant with freak babies. This section 28 is dictatorial, it even takes away freedom of opinion againts population control. Provission 1) The state shall guarantee education on “sex with out babies”. This is enforced tweaking of young minds for immorality. Called as reproductive blah blah for acceptance. 2) PRIORITISE are POOR WOMEN. Did you comprehend that! Exemptions were not mentioned but the Target is clear as the poor to be eradicated. This bill is for the benefit of the rich who will be allowed to live with out poisonous RH pills. 3) Forced funding for cancer inducing pills. It is ev*l to use my tax to inflict harm to fellow human. I say again RH pills causes cancer and Freak accidental babies of the poor. 4) Sex education = now the govt. will dictate or brainwash the children on sex with out babies . They will  turn young ones into dogs of sex with out responsibility for human natural reproductive scheme. Now then, if I am wrong, where in the provissions I was wrong ? Is eradicating the poor and tweaking young minds morally right ? The rich are the ones who makes this country Pak Daf. The poor are the ones who toiled hard for subsistence income. Now the rich and powerfull also wants to inflict cancer for the poor.

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    GlorIa Gift to Mitsubishop and Safari
     Butuan City Bishop Juan de Dios Pueblos, who received a Mitsubishi Montero, Bontoc-Lagawe Bishop Rodolfo Beltran (Nissan Pathfinder), Abra Bishop Leopoldo Jaucian (Mitsubishi Strada), Cotabato Archbishop Orlando Quevedo (Toyota Grandia Hi-Ace), Basilan Bishop Martin Jumoad (Mitsubishi Strada), Zamboanga Archbishop Romulo Valles (Toyota Grandia Hi-Ace); and Nueva Segovia Archbishop Ernesto Salgado (Isuzu Crosswind).

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Are you saying that if Pnoy also gives Pajero to the Bishops, these Bishops would shut their mouths and tow the Palace line ?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        ito pa isang BOBOtic! hoy, humuthut un mga pastor mo kay PACMAN. humingi ka ng balato dun!

      • observer_din

        MALAMANG, malas lang nila hindi mahilig manuhol si PNOY.

    • johnlagrimas

      Sirang plaka ka.  You deserve a garbage bin.  That issue has been settled and the vehicles are returned but you dwell on it because your mind finds joy in accusing known people from an unknown and coward person like you.

      • Cruxofthematter

        Would they have been returned if there was no one who made a huhha out of it? Di kaya sabihin, hehehe, buti walang nakaalam, patuloy ang gala natin dito?

      • Cruxofthematter

        In other countries, returning the vehicles is not enough, they are made to paid additional punishment because the culpability to corruption has been proven. Returning the cars is like pleading guilty and pleading guilty does not excuse one from penalties. Those penalties may be reduce but there should have been penalties. But as they say, only in Catholic Philippines…. Wow Pilipinas…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQ7FKNAHJQWEDZKOGGWF7E3ZZU Gene

        kase nabuko. kung hindi ba nabuko ‘yan, eh di enjoy sila. the Messia entered Jerusalem using a donkey. the early apostles used sandals. the road then was much worse. ‘tong mga to PAJERO!!! hahahaha…!!! 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    In order for pro-RH groups to score a knockout, powerful and influential
    religious group INC should counter the Catholic Church’s pressure by
    sending her Ministers to Congress or at least issue a press release
    supporting the Bill.

  • edpoeto

    The prelate should instead help the Pablo victims. Where is their presence. Where did the Catholic church money poured during this times of crisis. Our constitution is very clear on the separation of the church and state why bother opposing it’s positive contribution to society. Just asking.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Some Bishops, priests, nuns, seminarians marched in the streets against RH Bill.  Not even one of them is seen in the areas that suffered from the recent Pablo typhoon.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        ito pa isang IDIOT IGNORANT! 

        manawagan ka sa gobierno! trabaho nila un! na lilito ka na ata kung sino tawagin mo! 

        tanungin mo pastor mo! BOBOtic ka pla!

      • Cruxofthematter

         So trabaho ba sa RC ang pag oppose ng ano ang na isip na makabigay ayos sa pamilyang Pilipino? No, but these RCs meddle and violate the separation between church and state.

      • observer_din

        Alam mo pala kung ano trabaho ng gobyerno, eh alam mo rin siguro ang trabaho ng mga obispo? Dapat wag sila makialam sa pamamalakad ng gobyerno.TAPOS walang USAPAN!!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      oy sabihin mo yan kay PINOY! sabihin mo delayed na delayed na yun tulong dun! di ba trabaho ng gobierno ito! sabi mo separation of the church and state! tapos ngayon sa prelate ka tumatawag.

      magsulat ka dito address mo kay pinoy unggoy! sabi mo palpak sila! dami na nagugutom dun! RH Bill ng RH Bill lng sila kamo.  dami na patay dun!

      tawagan mo un magaling PINOY mo! saan na un magaling na services nila para dun sa na salata ng bagyo! magpakitang gilas cya kamo!

      hoy hoy hoy sumulat ka dito kay PINOY!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQ7FKNAHJQWEDZKOGGWF7E3ZZU Gene

        the catholic church does not give. it collects and hordes.

  • stealth ice

    these bishops are anti RH Bill kasi gusto nila dumami ang mga ank nila.

  • johnlagrimas

    Those who fight for the truth and know by heart and mind what they fight for is better than any blogger here who does nothing but accuse and repeat the same mantra of bitterness.

    Ignore them for they are just bunch of disgruntled and frustrated individuals who rebelled against their parents, egotistic, stubborn, lost and confused.  Kaawaan natin sila kasi mga galit sa mundo at sa kapwa lalo na sa mga hindi sang-ayon sa kanilang gusto at pumupuna sa kanilang kamalian.

    You want to learn what is “totalitarianism”, “relativism”, “egoism”, “hedonism” at best?  You don’t need a book – we have dead walking people here sa best examples.  LOL!

    But to those who wrestle with reason coupled with respect – I salute and admire.

  • johnlagrimas

     Speech of Rep. Antonio C. Alvarez during the nominal voting on the RH Bill on December 12, 2012

    Mr. Speaker:

    Three months from now, I will be marking my 27th year of uninterrupted service as an elected public official.

    In formulating my final vote in this House, I drew mainly upon my
    experience as mayor for 12 years and provincial board member for six.

    For in my years here, that has always been my way of appraising
    proposals: to imagine the “implementability” of policies in a grassroots
    setting.

    That is the best test because what I have discovered
    is that what is good on paper is not necessarily good in practice; what
    is good in the Batasan, is not always good for the barrios.

    So far here are my conclusions:

    All the purported things that this bill will do are already covered by a multitude of laws.

    Thus, it is not a matter of legislation but implementation.

    A barangay council can buy pills and even distribute them like
    confetti, but no barangay chairman will tell you that the same pills
    will cure poverty.

    He will tell you instead that in the
    hierarchy of his constituents’ needs, schools, books, roads, water, and
    livelihood are far more important to them.

    Sa bawat araw na
    ginawa ng Diyos, kadami-dami ang natatanggap kong sulat at text na
    humihingi ng tulong, mga resolutions na nakikiusap ng pondo, pero ni
    minsan hindi po ako nakatanggap ng sulat na humihingi sa akin ng condom o
    pilduras o IUD.

    In many areas of my District, the best form of
    contraception is not the one that is unsheathed, but one that is
    switched on—and that is electricity.

    There are good provisions
    in this bill, I admit, like the improvement of health facilities, but
    these are mere reiterations of what a government must do, so whether a
    government is pro-, anti-, or deadma on RH, it is duty-bound to provide
    these services.

    So whether a woman is carrying a baby on
    purpose or by accident, through artificial insemination or by immaculate
    conception, she deserves to have access to the best medical care which
    should be provided—without the need for an RH bill.

    Mr. Speaker:

    I vote NO to this measure, and Mr. Speaker, please allow me to cite my
    last reason for it is also the most important reason for me.

    I know that a lawmaker’s religious beliefs must not solely guide his vote.

    But I will take the risk of allowing my final vote as a congressman to
    be shaped in part by the teachings of my Church, not because I believe
    that they are infallible, but because my final act should be in fidelity
    with what my Church stands for.

    This is also an act of solidarity with my Church as it has come under attack as regressive, as archaic, and as antiquated.

    But its past and its present belie this slander.

    This is the Church that fought against tyranny, ousted a dictatorship, struggled against repression, and defended human rights.

    This is the Church which continues to educate our young, heal our sick, shelter our homeless, and comfort our poor.

    This is a Church that treats people as the most important resource of a
    community. Unlike those pushing for this bill who treat them as
    liability. Let us never forget that the most precious capital of all is
    HUMAN CAPITAL.

    This is the Church whose teachings form our
    social glue, provide our moral anchor, and whose celebrations, including
    Christmas, strengthen our bond as a community.

    So pray, tell me my friends, with this heritage and record how can I vote against it?

    I vote NO to this measure.

    • panhase

       27 years of service as elected public official? Way to long. That´s one thing in this system, people stay much too long in power so they think they are better then others. That´s how political dynasties are build.

    • observer_din

      ang tanong naman jan sa 27 years niya napaunlad ba niya bayan niya? baka naman pamilya lang niya yumaman… nagdrama pa eh halata namang walng ginawa para tulungan ang mga constituents niya.. tsk..tsk..tsk

  • artz555

    The report above said that most of the anti-RH Congressman voted against the RH bill because they said the RH bill is against the Catholic teachings ‘ that value life and the dignity of the human person ‘.

    The anti-RH representatives therefore want no RH bill or no change, or the status quo, when in the last 3 decades without an effective RH, the PH population almost doubled from 48 million people in 1980 to 92.3 million people in 2010 per PH census figures. The anti- RH people want to continue with rapid population growth with more and more poor people increasing every year who would get less and less food, less and less housing , less and less education for a lot children, less and less jobs for the bread winners, etc. etc. etc.

    On top of that, the anti-RH people want the PH government with it’s limited resources to go bankrupt, by spending more money year after year, for these increasing poor people for their food , their housing, their education, their jobs, etc. etc., etc.

    So the anti-RH people would like the status quo without an effective RH, now and in the future, with more and more Filipinos in a rapid population growth, living in lower and lower standards of living year after year, more and more beggars on the streets, more and more hungry people on the streets, more and more crime on the streets, etc. etc. etc. Is these what the anti-RH people want to happen to PH, which will get worst and worst every year without an effective RH ? And does these worsening conditions ‘ promote the value of life and the human dignity of a person ?

    The anti -RH representatives better answer these questions to the majority of Filipinos who ( based on surveys ) want an RH bill passed in Congress ?

    Pass the RH bill now.

    • ARIKUTIK

      So this is population control enforced to poor native Filipinos but the rich and Chinese is exempted. This genocide ot be inflicted to the poor only for the enjoyment of the rich and powerful.

  • Rey Cabague

    Whoever you are mxsclxmxn you are so bitter…. naaawa ako sa iyo… ano bang meron ang RCC na binibigay sa iyo at bakit galit na galit ka sa mga matitinong comments sa Article na ito? May BF ka bang Bishop at umuusok ang ilong mo?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      okay truce. so you watch the mounts of your born again friends here and i ll keep mine too.

      • joshmale2004

        Ganyan. Matuto kang gumalang sa mga sawsaw mo at igagalang ka din ng mga kapwa mo sa mga sagot nila. Mauna kang gumalang dahil nakikisabat ka lang sa comment ng iba.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        anak ng tipaklong…hirit ka pa!

        kung di lng kay bro mo rey..ay naku.

        cge peace lng cge…pagbigyan kita!

      • Rey Cabague

        We are all Pilipino Brothers Mr .MXSCLXMXN…. hindi tayo umuunlad dahil sa mga walang kwentang argumento. Puro nalang religion at pulitika… sana magka isa tayo at isang tabi muna ang Dalawang Usapin na yan na hindi nakakatulong na iangat ang buhay nating mga PILIPINO…. 

        SIGAW KO SA BAWAT ISA! MAGING NATIONALISM TAYO! ito ang PAG ASA NATIN HABANG MAY ORAS PA! BAYAN AT MAMAMAYAN NA MUNA… NAKAKASAWA NA ANG PURO GANITO! KONTING AWA SA AMING NAKAKARAMING MGA OFW!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQ7FKNAHJQWEDZKOGGWF7E3ZZU Gene

        maging “nationalism?” geeez….

  • antiscam

    HAIL to all the Congressmen who voted for RH. You stood for DEMOCRACY rather than THEOCRACY. You have fulfilled the will of the majority (80% of all Filipinos as per SWS Survey Nov 2012). You have courageously resisted the empty threats of our Bishops that they will blacklist you come election time.

    Take heart and do not be afraid of our Bishops threats. There is no such thing as a Catholic vote in this country. People are not so stupid anymore as during the time of Spanish colonization 300years ago when our country was still ruled by the Church (THEOCRACY). Our Democracy has already taken root.

    Even if somehow the threats of these Bishops actually become true, only 20% will support it. 80% will still be behind those who voted for RH. My fearless forecast- all those who voted for RH will be re-elected next year. Mitos “the fake Magsaysay” and Plagiarist Tito Sotto (all rabid anti-RH) will lose.

    GO RH!!! GO PNOY AQUINO OUR BEST PRESIDENT EVER!!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      pssst…..

      • antonioluna

        nyahahahaha KSP na lang!

    • Wally Ong

       kasali ka ba sa promised pork barrel?

    • ARIKUTIK

      How about the EVAT law voted to pass by Congress, was it the will of 80% Filipinos too or the will of the govt. to ROB tax 90% percent of the citizens (the 10% rich and powerful cheats tax). If the EVAT law is the will of the government controlled by the rich powerful Dynasty, so it is also for RH bill to ROB the lives of the poor. The Abnoy president is member of Dynasty. The will of the people is to be employed but the will of  Abnoy president is to kill the poor through contraceptive pills. The bishops will is to protect the poor againts the caprices of the rich lead by an Abnoy who became president through mothers death.The  Abnoy capitalise on Deaths.

      • Cruxofthematter

        If we complain that our government collect tax or is not doing it well, how do we solve it? And even solve it overnight? I see no short term solution. I have a long term solution, but it should be done through a mental orientation which is very hard and very long process to take we must have been in our graves if that was to take effect.

        So the bottom line is this, and as the bible explains, we should be submissive to authority, respect and pray for them. One reason why this country is not moving forward because after martial law, and with its newly tasted freedom, people can now express and be free to the point of just even talking without understanding or doing anything to mitigate.

        If contraception were hazardous beyond standard limits, wouldn’t the companies that manufacture them be held liable? We have standards for toxicity in many areas, even the noodles you eat contain toxins. The point is if we all die, at least, the life that we have lived should have been less stressful. How do we do that? Think, plan and act properly. The RH bill helps to do that with so many people who cannot do so.

      • ARIKUTIK

        Do you mean our present corrupt government can think better than the citizens ? This govt.of ours is one of the most currupt on earth. It Robs citizens and now that we have an Abnoy president of Chinese tribe. He wants to ROB the life of citizens too through RH pills but the rich and poweful are exempted. RH bill is genocide directed againts poor native Filipinos for the enjoyment of the rich and Chinese. Liberal party members are traitors.

      • Cruxofthematter

        So what are you? Better than them all? I dont think so. If in game if that is all what you’ve got, are you going to give but try to solve your problems and score? So it is with the RH law. We must respect those above us, otherwise, we should have no order. And do you think those in the hills can rule better? I doubt it. Respect is the order of the day.

      • observer_din

        Yes most corrupt ang govt natin, no.1 pa nga eh, noong panahon ni Gloria. Dahil yan sa pakikipagsabwatan ng mga miyembro ng CBCP na nabibili ng PABOR at SUV. Mga OBISPO na maiingay kuno pero nasusuhulan naman pala . Mga OBISPONG MAHADERA!!!! TUMIGIL NA KAYO SA PAKIKIALAM SA GOBYERNO!!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JEMNLLYAP5EA7SM3A6QUOGV62Q Chris

      Approve!

  • beer_leader

    yung mga pedophile na pari dito na kunyari mga simpleng mamamayan na bloggers,pag naubusan na po kayo ng argumento wag naman kayo mag resort sa pagmumura at pambabastos.

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    Priest who had sex with boys now tells how to smuggle ivory

    National Geographic‘s new issue exposes the ivory business, which has been hiding in plain sight since a worldwide trade ban was enacted in 1989. And a major player in the magazine’s story is a priest in the Philippines whom I wrote about in 2005 when investigating another global-trafficking phenomenon — the Catholic Church’s movement of sexual abuse suspects across international borders to escape justice.

    The priest, Monsignor Cristobal Garcia, is now quoted as explaining how to smuggle ivory into the United States: “Wrap it in old, stinky underwear and pour ketchup on it.” And if an icon won’t fit in a suitcase? Here’s how National Geographic‘s Bryan Christy summarizes Garcia’s advice: “I might get a certificate from the National Museum of the Philippines declaring my image to be antique, or I could get a carver to issue a paper declaring it to be imitation or alter the carving date to before the ivory ban.”

    Garcia also made provocative comments when I interviewed him about why he fled the U.S. in 1985. He admitted having sex with altar boys and supplying them with drugs

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      psst….un huthuterong pastor nyo bignigyan ni PACMAN. hingi ka ng balato!

      • joshmale2004

        Ano bang problema mo at anong pakialam mo kung namimigay ng pera si Pacman sa pastor niya or kahit kanino man. Pera niya yun. Pagod, dugo at pawis puhunan niya sa pera niya. Nakita naman ng buong bayan kung pano siya yumaman. Huwag kang mainggit sa kapwa mo. Eto ang isang turo ng Diyos sa Katoliko di ba?

      • johnlagrimas

        Hindi kay Pacquiao, yung Pastor n’yo – alam mo ba ang HIYA?

      • joshmale2004

        kasali ka ba sa usapan? O sige. Assuming nagbibigay ng pera si Pacquiao sa Pastor. Eto ay para sa Church niya na kinabibilangan niya. Lahat naman tayo nagbibigay ng pera either tithes o love offerings sa Church natin every week di ba? Ano ang pagkakaiba ng pastor ni Pacman sa mga pari ninyo at pastor namin para tanggihan ang bigay ng isang church member. At mas lalong kasalanang ibintang mo na binubulsa ng pastor ni Pacman yung pera dahil hindi ka naman member ng Church ni Pacman kaya imposibleng may basehan at witness sa sinasabi mo.

      • Rey Cabague

        We all Love  Pacquaio
        as our National Hero isa siyang mapagkumbabang tao. Biktima lang siya ng matandang
        Religion at maruming Pulitika… Umalis sya sa RCC dahil may nakita syang hindi
        tama bilang kaanib nito ang pagkakamali nya ay pumasok sya sa isa pang
        pagkakamali. Hindi pa nakuntento pumasok pa ulit sa isa pang pagkakamali, ang
        pumasok sa pulitika. Kaya itong Religion at Pulitika ang sumisira ng ating lipunan
        at alam nyo yan at ayaw nyo lang tanggapin!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        ganun, di sana wag din kayo ma inggit sa RCC. dami nyong satsat sa pera ng RCC. tapos kayo na pansin yun mga huthuterong pastor mo, defensive ka na agad. 

        cge…ituloy lang yan ng huthuterong mga pastor nyo.

      • joshmale2004

        Kailan ba ako nainggit sa inyo sa RCC. Hanapin mo muna lahat ng posting ko. Lahat ng posting ko dito eh base sa facts at hindi pa memersonal.

      • observer_din

        ang point lang ng mga tao dahil sobrang makialam ang mga OBISPO dapat sila unang mabigay ng tulong sa mga mahihirap na mga katoliko din naman. Eh kung nanahimik na lang ba kayong mga OBISPO sa mga parokya ninyo at inaalagaan ninyo mga unfortunate na miyembro ninyo di at di nakikialam sa gobyerno di wala kayong maririnig na masakit.

      • antonioluna

        Ingit ka? hindi ka nabigyan? 

    • beer_leader

      brod dahan dahan ka naman sa mga comments mo.nandito yung ibang pedophile priests na nagpapanggap na bloggers.magagalit sayo mga yan sige ka.pag nagalit pa naman ang mga yan sobrang lulutong magmura.

  • Wally Ong

    improve child and maternal health that is very noble but how? the government could not even improved the existing hospital services.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      palakpak naman dyn!

      dami na gutom sa mindanao dahil sa bagyo…san na un magaling na PINOY? ilang linggo na?  

      GOVT SERVICES is a FAILURE! tapos RH BILL pa!

      aho aho aho!

      • antonioluna

        anong kinalamn ng bagyo sa RH Bill? Loser! stop humiliating yourself…

      • observer_din

        Pagbigyan mo na pre,ganyan talaga pag talunan, maski anong excuse gagawin dahil di matanggap .. HAHAHAHA

    • Loggnat

      Improve child and maternal health./// It is mainly for the family to try to make this work. If a family can concentrate in feeding and educating one or two children, there will have better quality growing experience. These children will also have better chances of getting a higher education if family resources are concentrated for them instead of being diluted to more children. The spacing of having children will be an immediate plus for the mother health because it will give her body more time to recuperate between childbirth. In order for the poor family to be successful in this goal, the government must help by providing them all pertinent information and means provided by the law. If the family still decides to have more children than they can handle financially, they still have a choice to do so. So it all boils down to having a choice and the availability of the assistance for those that needs it from the government to whatever the family chooses to do.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQ7FKNAHJQWEDZKOGGWF7E3ZZU Gene

      that’s why we need the law!

  • boybakal

    This Battle of the RH Bill is Over Hype.
    Too much media exposure, as if Pacquiao vs Marquez.
    But when it is over, whether pass or not it is nothing.

    This RH Bill is not a savior.
    It is still more on government and people.
    China and India are two countries with billion people but now they are economics power.
    Why, government has plans and people work.

    And even in the Battle of Words, you get no substance.
    It is more of circus than ring battle ala Pacquiao Marquez.
     

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      correct!

      its not religion that should be focus here. it is saving the life of the UNBORN!

      RH BILL kills the life of the UNBORN! and population is not the issue! Malaysia Indonesia yeah INDIA and CHINA look at them…there are progressive!

      Good governance is what we need! Good services! No to PORK BARREL; Source of CORRUPTION! 

      • antonioluna

        saving the life of the UNBORN? T@nga! Npaka inosente mong gag0 ka! RH bill is to educate the proper use of c0ntraceptive… kaya ka pala antiRH, wala kang naintindihan… Isang sutsot ni father, hubad agad no? nyahahaha

    • johnlagrimas

      In the first place, because MEDIA is benefiting from it!

      • observer_din

        malamang nga nakikinabang ang media, dahil for life sila malilibre ng CONDOM?? hehehee

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQ7FKNAHJQWEDZKOGGWF7E3ZZU Gene

        then shun off the media. all media. you have the choice not to read anything, listen to anything and watch anything not in you liking. you can start now. the media will miss you terribly, kase wala na kaming aalaskahin.

    • observer_din

      they are economic powers but only when? also in case you dont know mas maraming mahirap sa INDIA,saka hindi pa sila economic power no1 pa lang sila sa CALL CENTER, china pa lang ang economic power pagkatapos ng mahabang taon na ipinatupad nila ang 1 child policy.

  • johnlagrimas

    Mr. Speaker:

    I vote NO to this measure, and Mr. Speaker, please allow me to cite my last reason for it is also the most important reason for me. I know that a lawmaker’s religious beliefs must not solely guide his vote. But I will take the risk of allowing my final vote as a congressman to be shaped in part by the teachings of my Church, not because I believe that they are infallible, but because my final act should be in fidelity with what my Church stands for. This is also an act of solidarity with my Church as it has come under attack as regressive, as archaic, and as antiquated. But its past and its present belie this slander. This is the Church that fought against tyranny, ousted a dictatorship, struggled against repression, and defended human rights. This is the Church which continues to educate our young, heal our sick, shelter our homeless, and comfort our poor. 

    This is a Church that treats people as the most important resource of a community. Unlike those pushing for this bill who treat them as liability. Let us never forget that the most precious capital of all is HUMAN CAPITAL. This is the Church whose teachings form our social glue, provide our moral anchor, and whose celebrations, including Christmas, strengthen our bond as a community. So pray, tell me my friends, with this heritage and record how can I vote against it? I vote NO to this measure.

    Cong. Antoni C. Alvarez

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4C2SFYIH52Y2KR7QPZPHJO2XQQ sl1

      We respect your choice sir if that was how you saw the RH bill but your other colleague saw it differently and voted yes. Not all things that the church push through are always right as the church officials are just human like us that has the tendency be bias sometimes . I am not saying that those voted yes were correct than those who voted no… but this the good of having a democratic gov’t as we can have freedom of choice.

    • Islaslolo

      Are we voting for the Church here or are we trying to pass a bill into law so that women will have free choice as their conscience and beliefs dictate?

      Though you are not quite specific here but the church you are referring to is the Roman Catholic hierarchy, an institution that is misogynistic. When I was in elementary grades in a RC school, I was thought that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute. Then when I took a Bible study class at a secular university, I learned that Mary Magdalene was never a prostitute. The way the RC hierarchy treats its nuns and sisters is almost the same. Is this the way we want our Filipino women to be treated too?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQ7FKNAHJQWEDZKOGGWF7E3ZZU Gene

      you still have to run for congress or the senate to do so. i don’t think your intellectual proficiency is capable of that. you cannot vote through a forum.

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    The Catholic sex abuse cases are a series of convictions, trials and 

    investigations into allegations of child sexual abuse crimes committed by 

    Catholic priests and members of Roman Catholic orders against children as young 

    as 3 years old with the majority between the ages of 11 and 14

    • johnlagrimas

      Search yourself – you know the real score – you know your motive and you know what’s truly troubling you. Be at peace and find solace!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQ7FKNAHJQWEDZKOGGWF7E3ZZU Gene

        your pope, the most evil of all humans, had admitted in his book that x’mas is pagan. pretty soon, it will admit that your church is pagan. you don’t have to wait for that. just look at the days and the months in the gregorian calendars — named after pagans. the festivities are patterned after pagans'; the saints have their pagan counterparts. when that final admission comes, you’ll still continue to be in that church because you love being a pagan — as most of the church members are.

  • johnlagrimas

    Inquirer Headline: Anti-RH lawmakers accuse 4 Palace officials of lobbying during voting.

    Read this and judge for yourself who is meddling; the bishops or malacanang?  Is this the best that P-NOY can offer to those who believe in his cause – “Pag walang kurap walang mahirap” – bakit ngayon, pag walang anak ang mahirap walang mahirap?  Sana naman ganito; “pag walang anak ang kurap walang mahirap”.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    Those against family planning never tire to quote that passage in Genesis about increasing and multiplying and filling the earth. However, the quote does not end there but continues with “to subdue it.” The definition of “subdue” is to control or overcome.

    There is nothing in the Bible that condemns the prevention of conception; that is, the mingling of sperm and egg that produces life. The couples themselves are to decide what method to use, how large a family they can raise with dignity, as responsible citizens and true followers of Christ.

    As a matter of fact,  the so-called natural birth control is against Nature because it prevents the couple from enjoying each other precisely at the time when they most want to have sexual relations. That is precisely why they get married; the couple’s natural inclination to have sex when this is most desired should not be curtailed by such an unnatural method. Besides, the rhythm method is not only unreliable, it also causes psychological problems that affect not only the couple but the entire family. St. Paul’s letters to the Corinthians and Thessalonians where the early Christians were warned that such an unnatural practice makes the couple vulnerable to the temptations of Satan.

    There’s a strong connection between size of population and socio-economic resources. Most significantly, it shows a deep understanding of human nature.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      hoy hoy hoy…sino nagsabi sayo yan…mga huthuterong pastor nyo! kaya pala ganyan isipan nyo…no wonder peke un bible nyo.

      anyway basahin mo ng maigi un pekeng bible mo bago mo sabihin na there is nothing wrong in preventing conception!

      pagaral mo yan ng mabuti ha! sama mo un pastor mo!

  • joboni96

    GO PADRE DAMASOS

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      go mga huthuterong pastor! magkano un 10% ni pacman dyn? balatohan mo naman mga ksamahan mo!

  • $31552910

    Prior restraint is censorship imposed on speech or expression before the speech or expression actually takes place.  The RH bill is a prior restraint on life.  It is oppressive and unconstitutional.

    • CyberPinoy

      oppressive and unconstitutional, baliw ka ba ? pano naging oppressive wala pa naman nabubuntis, pano naging unconstitutional.  Eto nanaman mga nagmamagaling, bakit ba hindi nyo nalang tangapin ang boses ng nakararami. Naipasa na sa congress bakit puro reklamo pa kayo, get over it and move on.. RH Bill is here to stay accept the facts, if you cant then make a time machine and go back to the spanish time kung saan ang lahat ng sinabi ng simbahan nasusunod.

      The majority has spoken so Get over it and move on !

    • artz555

      Tell that to the people of Singapore, South Korea , Japan and even the US, and other developed countries. The people in these rich countries who have had universal RH for decades now, are enjoying higher per capita incomes, and therefore higher standards of living, because of high country GDPs with low populations, and low population  growth rates.

    • observer_din

      anong OPPRESSIVE? ie-educate lang mga couples at tutulungan silang magplano hindi sila painipigilan na mag-anak ,me sinabi ba sa bill na pag nag-anak ng madami makukulong ang mag-asawa??
      UNCONSTITUTIONAL , pano naman nangyari yun eh gagawin ngang batas eh.
      saang planeta mo ba nakukuha yang mga ganyang ideya?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQ7FKNAHJQWEDZKOGGWF7E3ZZU Gene

      why unconstitutional? it was voted by the two legislative bodies? what could be more constitutional than that? what is unconstitutional is the meddling of the parasite church in the affairs of the state. what is unconstitutional is not paying taxes, yet earning billions in investment.

    • donsupremo

      @RFreemont:disqus 
      tama ka… eto na pu wahahahaha 
      sampa na agad sa Supreme court bilis… ahahahaha

      sinabi ko na eh… hindi yan matatapos sa pirma pirma lang ng batas…

      pag may kumo kontra ayaw mag patalo… meanwhile… 

      suspendido yan habang hindi sine settle yan statement mo kung tama o mali ka… 

      ayos bata… another 14 years ule bago ma ayos ng korte yan… daan mo muna sa Court of appeals 10 years yun tapos korte suprema 5 years yun 

      ayos yan!

  • $31552910

    Some countries with better standard of living or quality of life have larger populations or higher population densities than the Philippines. Population growth can boost the economy and create economies of scale. The population density (pop./sq. km) of the Philippines (308) is lower than Singapore (7,280), Bahrain (1,631), Taiwan (644), South Korea (503), Netherlands (497), Lebanon (421), India (382), Belgium (365), Israel (359), and Japan (338). The population of the Philippines is an asset instead of a detriment. Promoting fair political and economic systems is the more responsible, humane, and effective policy against poverty and corruption.

    • observer_din

      kelan ka pa naging economista?di kung totoo yang sinasabi mo di wala ka nang makikitang batang hamog sa kalsada, wala ng nagra-rugby sa kalsada.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQ7FKNAHJQWEDZKOGGWF7E3ZZU Gene

      have you ever thought that the countries you mentioned do not let the parasitic catholic church meddle in their affairs? haven’t you ever thought that since magellan, your parasite church had been working religiously to ensure that Filipinos remain stupid and superstitious? 

      • $23228448

        well said Gene, stupid and in the dark ages

  • w33k3nd3r

    Why don’t you priests go down to the Visayas and help out with the storm victims instead? There are so many  impoverished people down there who are at severe losses. You claim to be pro poor and pro life? Then here’s the best situation for you to be in– go to the areas affected by Pablo and help them because they are in most need. Congress needs you less than they do.

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    STOP DONATING YOUR MONEY TO THE RICH AND CORRUPT BISHOP..
    The Bank Investments Of Different Dioceses

    Diocese / Church Foundation Company # Shares Owned Rank in Top 100 Total Investment Value

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 222,843,681 4th PHP12.724 Billion

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (REAL CASA DE MISERICORDIA) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 41,408,841 8th PHP2.364 Billion

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA (HOSPITAL DE SAN JUAN DE DIOS) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 22,072,182 13th PHP1.26 Billion

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (HOSPICIO DE SAN JOSE) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 6,016,624 15th PHP343.55 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (HOSP DE SA JUAN DE DIOS) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 4,285,572 17th PHP244.71 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (MAYORDOMIA DELA CATEDRAL) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 2,664,266 21st PHP152.13 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (ST. PAUL`S HOSPITAL) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 1,772,418 26th PHP101.21 Million

    CARMEL OF THE DIVINE INFANT JESUS OF PRAGUE, INC. Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 726,819 49th PHP41.50 Million

    EL SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION FILIPINA DE PADRES AGUSTINOS RECOLETOS Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 551,382 60th PHP31.48 Million
    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF JARO Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 491,385 64th PHP28.06 Million

    EL SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION FILIPINA DE PADRES AGUSTINOS RECOLETOS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 2,370,000 31st PHP260.70 Million

    SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION ARCHICOFRADIA DE N.P.J.N DE RECOLETOS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 1,234,603 75th PHP135.81 Million

    CARMEL OF THE DIVINE INFANT JESUS OF PRAGUE, INC. San Miguel Corp (SMC) 957,516 79th PHP105.33 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TUGUEGARAO San Miguel Corp (SMC) 856,639 81st PHP94.23 Million

    REAL MONASTERIO DE LA PURISIMA CONCEPCION DE NUESTRA MADRE SANTA CLARA DE MANILA San Miguel Corp (SMC) 809,834 83rd PHP89.08 Million

    SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION DE PADRES RECOLETOS POR BECAS Y VOCACIONES San Miguel Corp (SMC) 621,702 89th PHP68.39 Million
    CARMEL OF ST THERESE OF THE CHILD JESUS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 592,956 91st PHP65.23 Million

    THE DISCALCED CARMELITE NUNS OF CEBU San Miguel Corp (SMC) 451,864 95th PHP49.71 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF NUEVA SEGOVIA DE VIGAN San Miguel Corp (SMC) 428,067 98th PHP47.09 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA Philex Mining Corp (PX) 3,221,135 15th PHP66.68 Million

    RELIGIOUS OF THE VIRGIN MARY – B Philex Mining Corp (PX) 3,125,777 16th PHP64.70 Million

    RELIGIOUS OF THE VIRGIN MARY-A Philex Mining Corp (PX) 1,091,027 69th PHP22.58 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TUGUEGARAO Ayala Corporation (AC) 24,015 73rd PHP9.29 Million

    KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS FRATERNAL ASSOCIATION OF THE PHILS, INC. Ayala Corporation Preferred Shares – A (ACPA) 60,000 2nd PHP31.80 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TAGBILARAN Ayala Corporation Preferred Shares – B (ACPR) 10,000 64th PHP1.02 Million

    DAUGHTERS OF CHARITY OF ST. VINCENT DE PAUL PHINMA Corp. (PHN) 159,575 19th PHP2.12 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF THE DIOCESE OF JUAN DE DIOS PHINMA Corp. (PHN) 153,880 20th PHP2.05 Million

    RELIGIOUS OF THE VIRGIN MARY PHINMA Corp. (PHN) 58,975 52nd PHP784,368

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA Concrete Aggregates Corp (CA) 78,846 9th PHP3.47 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (REAL CASA DE MISERICORDIA) Concrete Aggregates Corp (CA) 13,067 18th PHP574,948

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA (HOSPITAL DE SAN JUAN DE DIOS) Concrete Aggregates Corp (CA) 8,317 24th PHP365,948

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (HOSPICIO DE SAN JOSE) Concrete Aggregates Corp (CA) 1,898 66th PHP83,512

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (MAYORDOMIA DELA CATEDRAL) Concrete Aggregates Corp (CA) 841 97th PHP37,004

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA ISM Communications (ISM) 38,399 48th PHP126,333

    SOCIETY OF THE DIVINE WORD Filipino Fund Inc. (FFI) 6,000 24th PHP48,000

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF BANGUED Filipino Fund Inc. (FFI) 1,500 49th PHP12,000

    CATHOLIC WOMENS LEAGUE Benguet Corp. – A (BC) 215 53rd PHP4,107

    CORPORACION DE PADRES DOMINICOS EEI 75,000 75th PHP256,500

    * Rank in Top 100 – rank in the Top 100 Stockholders of the Company, a report submitted by the company to the PSE
    ** Total Investment Value – peso value of total shares owned, as of May

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      ito pa ang isa….hoy hoy hoy….hingi ka ng balato dun sa huthuterong nyong mga pastor kay pacman! ask mo rin san na punta un 10% ni pacman!

    • donsupremo

      ,,

    • donsupremo

      @ztefertilizerscam9:disqus 

      very impressive!!

      is anyone complaining the Roman Catholic Church stole those moneys from somebody? Perhaps gusto mo mag sampa ng Harassment  Case against the church sa Korte…  galing ng data mo… very extensive… 

      by the way….nasan ang proof mo na illegal or CRIMINAL ang sources nila ng pera na yan… ???

      kung walang proof, epal lang yan… puro sino sotto mga ganyan pag walang ebidensya… prove mo muna Criminal ang source para may sense yan tabulation mo….

    • UrHONOR

      EXCELLENT information!  Nakikita ang lahat ng yan sa list of biggest 100 stockholders of a company sa PSE site.  Kulang pa yan…..marami pang hindi nasama dyan.  Nagpapatunay lamang na ga-ga-bundok ang mga assets ng mga TNL na yan na nagmula sa wala….tinulungan ng mga nanalig sa kanila, tapos ng lumaki na, good-bye na sa mga tumulong sa kanila…at hello, Vatican, here comes your juicy share for the franchise fees in the Philippines.

  • FelixSoriano

    The Church will continue to fight against this evil piece of legislation. Yes, you got the majority of congressmen to favor RH Bill, but you cannot twist the truth that RH BILL REMAINS ANTI-LIFE, ANTI-FILIPINO. It’s not yet over. We have still time to defeat this bill.
    Go anti-rh. This is a noble fight.

    • observer_din

      How’s it become anti life? me pinatay na ba sa RH BILL?wala naman kasamang abortion dito ah.
      How’s it become ANTI-FILIPINO? eh majority ng pinoy suportado ito.
      Please explain in writing .. hahahaha

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        wala abortion, pssst…hello! di mo alam! hello! 

        kaya pala RH BILL ng RH BILL ka dyn di mo pala alam na may abortion dito! mahiya ka alamin mo ng mabuti!

      • observer_din

        WEEEEE ,asan yung abortion pakita mo sa amin!!! hahahaha

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AQ7FKNAHJQWEDZKOGGWF7E3ZZU Gene

      wake up, dude! even rome has its version of the rh bill, and it is much more stringent than what we have. if you’re earning below par and have 7 children, you’ll be singing a different tune.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AUNBI66J3EGEPMV5LFCN53OUGI JEO

    I am a Catholic..but the poverty i witness in this country is like no life..looks anti life! I cannot say Catholic is right but they got a good point also..but without any good and effective mesuare or regulation from from our government is like no hope we can find life also in this world we live in. why not these two party talk and come up with a good rather than no bill?

    I am hopeful thisd bill if approve, our government will do its duties to really uplift our people from poverty and ignorance.

    More serious work to be done! and to sustain it is a big question.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      hello….poverty….ask mo kaya yan kay PINOY!

      un simbahan is about morality. 

      un corruption kay PINOY. un PORK BARREL kay pinoy. ask mo sya san na napunta mga yun. wag mong sabihin itanong to sa mga pari un pork barrel ha!

      at tsaka, alamin mo ng malalim un faith mo para maging proud sayo ang simbahan bro!

      just keep believing and following the Church. 

      • observer_din

        simbahan about morality? tanong mo kaya ke bishop garcia yun? hanggang di nawawala ang mga obispong nanghingi ng SUV ke gloria, at yung si Garcia na ivory smuggler na eh pervert pa, di ako maniniwala sa kanila, palitan sila ng mga batang OBISPO, yung merong tunay na moral at kredibilidad!!

    • Cruxofthematter

      This is what is called straight thinking. Kudos, kabayan.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_T42Q37DX5BRWJ5NRYTBC2DXUAU Jols – batman Robin

    wow high tech n ung mga father damaso ahh….. tumulong n ba kayo dun sa nasalanta ng bagyong pablo…….CBCP (Corrupt Bishop Corporation of the Philippines) 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      psst hingi ka ng balato dun sa mga huthuterong pastor nyo. tapos natungin mo san na punta un 10% ni PACMAN na binigay nya!

      psstttt!!!

      • akimaxx

        Natanong mo rin ba kung magkano ang abuloy ni Pacman sa simbahan ng Quiapo? Mas malaki ‘yon dahil more than 10%. Ano ang kapalit, naging sugarol, babaero, buhay na walang taros at muntik pang mawasak ang pamilya. Mabuti pang magbigay ka sa iyong Pastor kung matututo at gaganda ang buhay kaysa sa mga Damasong laging nakasahod ang kamay, wala namang pakinabang.

  • disqusted0fu

    this bill has caused so much hype that it doesnt really deserve over the past couple of months. its making the people somehow forget the more important things like the typhoon victims, dispute with China, the insurmountable number of crimes happening everywhere, inaction of the government over killings, the fake resolution of Sereno and all the other anomalies in this government, inefficient PCOS machines that will be used for the upcoming elections, and many many more. all these are being over shadowed by this less important bill since some of its provisions are redundant from our existing laws anyway.

  • ARIKUTIK

    The people needs job. Why this administration of an Abnoy president wants to give RH poison pills instead. To further make the poor Filipinos misserable. This is an Abnoy idea pushed through PDAF.

  • joerizal

    It’s over. Man up.

  • regd

    All of this maneuverings & mass hysterias by religious fanatics can be used for the “New planet of the apes” movie!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TGSMKB6ZWYHH3GYXFHISXVSBHU Modesto

    the bishops should be human enough to admit defeat in their quests for catholic domination and dictatorial  edicts based on hypocrisy on the RH bill passage.they have to wake up and realized that the present majority of educated filipinos are not bobos anymore.the cbcp thought that we are still in the dark ages of philippine history spanish colonization where the spanish friars were the dictators and use christianity as a vehicle for colonization.they were the one responsible for the death of our national hero dr.jose rizal with his exposure of the devilish characters of the spanish friars here.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      pasalamat ka sa RCC. kung wala ito, malamang un mga ninono mo at tayo naging mga muslim! ikaw ay di born again kung wala un RCC. sakop ng muslim ang pinas nun araw. andito pa mga intsik..gusto mo si budda un diyos mo?

      kung di ginulo un mga ninono mo o ikaw ng mga pastor na peke un reliyon, i sana sa RCC ka! 

      ngayon, tiis ka dyn sa retokadong bible nyo pano peke din reliyon ng pastor mo!

  • superlucky2

    LAGMAN, TAPOS NA ANG MALILIGAYA MONG ARAW. THIS IS YOUR DOWNFALL. IN THE 1ST DISTRICT OF ALBAY WALA NA MANINIWALA SAYO AT SA PAMILYA MO.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      EXCOMMUNICATE him!

      • observer_din

        EXCOMMUNICATE??di gagawin ng mga pari yun, di nabawasan ng magbibigay sa kanila.. hahahaha

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      AND IF YOUR RIGHT HAND CAUSES YOU TO SIN, CUT IT OFF AND THROW IT AWAY. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PZR7JI7G2WD2CTVMZ7LM667FD4 Ugly Bunny

    While I do agree that we need to act on the issue of women’s health care, family planning and sex education, they need to prioritize first the FOI bill before this.

    Huge funds (our taxes) are involved here therefore a law for transparency must come first.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      improve govt services…people are waiting in MINDANAO! weeks had passed where are the services the people needed?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    yes to life kung totoo kang lalake iputok mo sa loob wag tatakpan ng goma bawal yun sa kautusan ng bishops”’at katoliko”

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      hoy! read the bible its there! alamin mo ng mabuti before you write something here!

      nagmamagaling ka na naman! seguraduhin mo na tunay un bible na gamitin mo at hindi retokado!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    cbcp bishops yes to life reproduction is more fun in the philippines”

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      yes to huthuterong mga pastor! 10% kay pacman…laki naman yan….mamigay naman ng balato!

  • noypisiTED

    So, it’s over but the counting when the prez certified the RH bill urgent. With that the president has put the last nail in the coffin of those against it.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      psssttt…sabihin mo kay PINOY maraming namatay na sa MINDANAO dahil sa bagyo…bilis bilisan nya kamo un SERVICES ng gobierno! wala nang makain un mga tao dun!

      • FORTHE GOOD

        pssstttt… manuod ka ng ANC live nanduon sina sec. dinky soliman at rene almendras conducting dialogue with victims and delivering assistance. All victims who are not PPP recipients will be given P200 per day as workers for the bunkers to be constructed for temporary shelter. PPP recipients will receive full payment for their nov. and dec. grants. Assitance will continue until all victims are relocated and given new houses.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        gaya gaya puto maya….pssttt…dami nagrereklamo…bahay eskwelan sira pa rin…walang tubig walang makain..mga bata nagmamalimos na….psst check mo sa lahat ng tv station di lang sa INC. ah ANC pla!

        kailan lang dumating si sec dinky dun?

      • FORTHE GOOD

         Psssttt… magikero yata hanap mo.LOL!!

        Pag ikaw mag presidente pagawa ka ng schools in 1 week after supertyphoon ha… balik normal after 1 week.LOL!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        gaya gaya puto maya

        pssttt…pag ako presidente? what a question! labo mo!

        ask question that will never happen! 

        ask mo yan kay PINOY! cya presidente! labo mo! ask mo rin san na un mga PORK BARREL kamo!

        tanong mo na lahat din! kalbo mo. ah, labo mo pala!

  • FORTHE GOOD

    More power to the RH bill!

    Do not be intimidated by the bishops. There is no catholic vote. They are as sinful as everybody else.

    In fact, they are more answerable to God because they are supposed to be holy but many of them are sex offenders against minors, women, and even against their fellow men.LOL!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      good, yes all are sinners now!

      problem is you have a pekeng church with a retokadong bible and a pekeng pastor saying that you can be saved by being born again. tapos humihingi pa ng 10%.

      lahat peke na namemera pa! ayos!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    sa switzerland at new zealand mas marami baka sa tao kaya sawa sa steak sa atin sa pilipinas mas marami batang hubo sa baka kaya maraming isnatcher”’ at desperado”

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      yan pag aralan mo ng mabuti! tanong mo yan!

    • antonioluna

      suminghot ka na naman ng dragon katol?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      may sagot na ba? ooooopppsss time is up…pass your paper!

  • kulittwit

    Ganda ng picture. Ipinapakita lang kung saan ang dapat kalagyan ng mga damaso
    sa pamamalakad ng pamahalaan:  dyan sila sa audience.

    Sa kabilang banda, nakakalungkot din dahil ang mas tamang kalagyan nila ay sa simbahan o kumbento nag mi misa o nagdarasal sa halip na magbulungan dyan na parang mga hudas. Pulitika ang inaatupag napabayaan na ang pinakamahalagang gawain nila: evangelization, uplifting the spirituality, and shepherding the flock.

    Parami nang parami ang umaalis sa katoliko hindi man lang uma aksyon ang mga obispo. Pa konti ang uma attend ng regular mass kada linggo.

    Malaking bagay ang pag alis ni manny pacquiao sa katoliko. Ang mga ganitong bagay ang dapat atupagin ng mga obispo. Kulang na sa pagkalinga ang spiritual life ng mga katoliko.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      Our Lord is even tempted. Just like the faithful, being tempted by the evil. Much more tempted by false pastor with false religion and modified bible! 

      But as the Lord had promised, ” And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”

      Gets mo? That s simple English! Tagalogin pa ba? 

      • antonioluna

        taenang nyong mga fanatic! nakaka irita na kayo!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        tama…fanatic, fundamentalist born again! nkaka irita daw sabi ni antonioluna! aw…hero ba ito? o heroine? drug ba un? sori po di ko alam.

      • antonioluna

        nyaaaaa.. corny mo! hihirit pa yung talunan. wahahaha :p

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        yan na naman nag mumura na naman..di ba bawal na dito…yan ang usapan. yan sabi ni bro rey cabague nyo.

      • antonioluna

        ahh, pasensya na, hindi na kita mumurahing putangina mo kang hind0t ka. try kong pigilan ndi ka mabastos na gag0 ka.

      • bydasea

        May tama ka!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    sinabi ni cristo pangalagaan mo pinararami mo di yung parami ka ng parami pag pag na kinakain mo” god save the philippines universial r.h is good to the people carnival tagle cbcp bishops stop terrorisim in pilipino nation your group is extremist terrorist”’

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      sino nag sabi syo yan…huthuterong pasto mo? magaling magaral ba ng bible yan? oopps anong bible gamit nya pala? baka retokadong bible yan…kulang kulang sa books…

      ask mo cya ng maigi.

      • antonioluna

        psst… talo ka na eh, pasakan mo na ng trapo yung bunganga mo. humihirit ka eh talunan ka na nga… wahahahaha

  • donsupremo

    di ko lang alam if a Legal Term can apply to a medical condition but in a manner of speaking birth control is prior restraint nga ahahahaha

    you restrain the forces of fertilization in the body to form a zygote or the resulting union of sperm and egg ahahahah mukang mag aaway sa embryology sa loob ng Court of appeals and Korte Suprema nito wahahahaha

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    pls” type mayor atienza aborzionist at makikita mo ang genocide ng mga damaso”” na sa youtube na” tingnan mo kung gaano ano kabait ang mga demonyong carnival tagle” cbcp bishops”’

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      wow….ganun….really true? true true true? o baka sabi ng huthuterong pastor mo to…bat di na headlines sa inquirer? o sa kapamilya kapuso o kapatid networks…

      wow…sana na xxx to…genocide ng mga damaso…talaga?

      pero alam ko may mga huthuterong pastor dun kay pacman…yan na balita! 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        PLS”’ TYPE MAYOR ATIENZA ABORZIONIST”’YOUTUBE makikita mo kung gaano ka hayop ang hayop”’ carnival tagle at cbcp bishops DAMASO”’

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        hay!!!

      • akimaxx

        Napanuod ko ang ‘docu’,  ang mga politiko at mga obispo ay nagbulag-bulagan sa nangyayari sa ating bansa. Mga representante ng mga lalawigan, tanungin kung ano ang saluobing ng ka-probinsya nyo. Ang mga nag-abstain, salatang sarili ang pinoprotektionan. Huwag silang iboto, WALA SILANG PANININDIGAN. Hindi dapat maging leader.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      nasan A.K47 KO TATADTADIN KO NG BALA MGA DAMASO”CARNIVAL TAGLE”’

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      galingan mo pa…ano pa mga palusot nyo?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    tama nga yun…the mouse will play when the cat is away. cge post kayo ng post dito…mayaya offline nako!

    • antonioluna

      sige mag offline ka na, paulit ulit na lang sinasabi mo, research ka pa uli para hindi ka laging napapahiya..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        pahiya? san? bat ano ba sinabi mo? nagmumura ka na kanina.

        di ako nagreresearch…baka ikaw…nagreresearch para makalusot un retokadong bible mo!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        mamaya offline nko. ikaw naman…

    • bydasea

      hindi nga. Tulog ka na kawawa ka naman.

  • johnlagrimas

    RH
    Bill condemns RESPONSIBLE taxpayers into subsidizing the sexual
    appetites of IRRESPONSIBLE parents. Instead of teaching them to
    contribute a little self-discipline (abstinence) or a little
    self-reliance (purchase of own condoms and pills), this government
    chooses the low road (morally and realistically) by giving out
    contraceptives to support their whims and encourage sexual activities
    without responsibility and fear of any consequences. BILLIONS are taken
    (forcibly through salary deduction and VAT) from the poor, struggling
    taxpayers instead of being used for anti-corruption, infrastructure,
    hospitals, schools which EVERY FILIPINO benefits from.

    We are a nation fueled by population – agriculture, manufacturing,
    OFW, BPO.  It is ironic that this government continues to deny the role
    the population will play to steer the nation (shying away from the
    responsibility). Instead of nurturing the population
    (again, anti-corruption, infrastructure, hospitals, schools) our
    government’s reaction is to curtail population.  Where will we earn our
    wealth when the current population ages? Do we have oil, gold, arms,
    intellectual properties in electronic designs of our own like other
    countries have? We’ll end up with a whole lot of aged people and too
    little productive population to support us. Sorry, this government just
    killed our nation.By Gilbz 72

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      RH BILL kills the UNBORN! sana si PINOY magtanong sa Health Center un effect ng Contraceptive Pills sa mga nanay!

      Ayaw aminin ni Pinoy that govt services suck! a FAILURE! biniblame sa population un failed services nila! un pork barrel san na napunta? 

      sana mag report siya sa mga nagawa ng pork barrel! 

      at sa city hall, naku naku naku! no 1 sa corruption mga tao dun! kitang kita!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        IDIOT YOU DONT BELIVE IN MEDICAL SCIENCE DASALAN MO NALANG”

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        yan ka na naman…masama templa ng dila mo! di ba sabi dito wag na yan…di mo nabasa mga blogs?

        si bro rey cabague mo ayaw ng dila na ganyan….matulis! ayosin mo dila mo!

        Naka punta ka na sa mga health center? nagtanong tanong ka na dun? ask mo mga nanay dun para malaman mo effect nag C PILLS!

        okay? ayusin mo dila mo!

      • bydasea

        “The blind leading the blind” – Study your science well and don’t be fooled by the Damasos.

    • antiscam

       not true..

  • kuraratsa

    sino bang manginginabang nyan? mga pobre?…..madaming mga anak kasi madaming walang trabaho. yung may mga trabaho at mayayaman subrang tipid manganak, minsan wala pa.
    di naman talaga ito kailangan kung magiging responsable lang ang bawat isang juan de la cruz, at kung mayroon silang ibang pagkaka abalahan…TRABAHO…..sa mga PARI siguro mag reach out naman kayo di palaging sa simbahan ang tira…..turuan kung anong tama,  buti kung kayo ang mag papakain sa mga anak ng anak.

  • Rigoberto_Tigdas

    To all Anti-RH, you may never, EVER, understand it for now, but we will all benefit from this law in the future, you’ll see.
     
    You’ve done your best, laid your arguments, but at the end of the day, only side will prevail. Remove all the anger and bitterness, we are all Filipinos afterall.

    Accept your defeat and get on with your lives!
     
    We have so much work to do.

    • antoncervantesjr

      Ah… and you DO KNOW the benefit from this law in the future? And you DO UNDERSTAND it now?

      You’ve don your best (cliche), laid your arguments (cliche)
      at the end of the day(!!! cliche!!!)

      accept your defeat and get on with your lives! (!!!another cliche!!!)

      such SMUG remarks.

      i guess education and class do not necessarily go together

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    pa offline na un guard…ingat! Magpopost na mga demonyo!

  • Garote

    “What happened in Vegas strengthened my already firm belief in the sanctity of life, on whether a
    person’s right to live in this world should be put in the hands of his fellow man. Only God has the
    right over this,” I think this says it all. Manny was knocked out and woke up to realize his
    mistake. But can the women and babies killed by contraceptives still wake up  to realize their  
    president, lawmakers and 70% of their fellow Filipino made a stupid mistake in approving the RH
    bill? Their mistake was they were too proud to listen to the warning of God and blinded by false
    money and pride?

    • bydasea

      “women and babies killed by contraceptives” – This is false. Contraceptives do not kill babies, they stop fertilization in the first place. Study your science well and don’t be a blind fool.

      • Garote

        It’s in Roe v. Wade where the US SC court came out with the three semesters of pregnancy in which to determine when life begins.Their basis was what they say without sufficient medical basis. They were not scientists nor doctors., Even the doctors and scientists could not agree as to when life begins in the womb. Who are you now to say what is false or not. You are the arrogant, hypocritical blind fool.

      • bydasea

        Nice one. Please provide the internet link or books so I can educate myself and not be be arrogant and hypocritical as you assume I am. If doctor and scientist cannot agree when life begins in the womb then I suppose you have the answers to this question the reason for your believing that RH Bill is killing babies by contraceptives.

      • Garote

        I did not assume you are arrogant and a hypocrite. I stated it as a matter of fact, Go find the internet link or books yourself.

      • taga_ilog

        the reason why you cannot supply is because you don’t know yourself where, an allegation without substance 

      • Garote

        You are the same, full of hot air in the head and not enough brain in between your ears. Wear a condom on your head and maybe it would protect the little brain matters left that may still be lingering loose in your head from falling off.

      • bydasea

        You have nothing to support your claim? Are you really sure what you are talking about. Show me where your proof is? What a really blind fool you are. Blind leading the blind! I wonder where do you read this pseudo science of yours.

      • Garote

        I am sure and I can support my claim. It’s useless to give you proof because you cannot understand it anyway. It would be a waste time to educate a total idiot like you who has a lot of hot air in the head and no brain in between your ears.

  • Garote

    Mr. President Benigno Aquino III, how much did your  certification (for immediate enactment of the Reproductive Health Bill) cost the multimillion pharmaceutical companies . . . billions, hundred billions or trillions? Why did you issue such certification knowing  this  violates the SEPARATION OF POWERS of the 3 branches of gov’t. It must have cost the pharmaceutical companies big money for you to violate this entrenched principle of our constitution.Again I ask, how much did your certification cost the pharmaceutical companies?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      pa account un na gawa ng mga PORK BARREL!

  • Gregg Lantin

    Dapat talaga ipasa na to… at dapat talaga linawin ang SEPARATION of CHURCH and STATE…

    BWAHAHAHAH + BWAHAHHAH – BWAHHAHHAH = BWAHAAHHA

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      BALIW””

      • Gregg Lantin

         IKAW””

        BWAHAHAHAH + BWAHAHAHHA – BWAHHAHHA = BWAHAHAHAH

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        matulis talaga dila mo! bro rey cabague o…si edgardo mendoza and sama ng dila…anong branch, church pala ka ng born again?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AND7MQ5FERICDOIAUW56RYT45A tower_of_power

    The church is fighting the wrong battle!!! RH bill is nothing if your followers are strong believers of your words … so do something so that your followers will see the light as you would like them to see. In this world temptations are everywhere … there is no way you can remove them. TRANSFORM YOU FOLLOWERS INTO PEOPLE WHO STRONGLY BELIEVE IN YOUR WORDS … MAKE THEM MORE PRODUCTIVE NOT IN MAKING BABIES BUT IN PROVIDING FOOD FOR THEIR FAMILIES!!!

    • Gregg Lantin

       TUBE 8, REDTUBE and others are more realistic than magical god!!!!

      BWAHAHAHAH + BWAHAHHHA – BWAHAHAHH = BWAHAAHHAH

  • firmelilia_12LAF

    We cannot condemn the Catholic bishops for staunchly defending what to them is the TRUTH. You have your own version of truth and have all the right to defend it.  Why begrudge the clergy for defending theirs? That’s what they had been ordained for. You can call them fanatics, demonyo, damaso and other malignities and character assassinations;  that’s your prerogative. One thing is sure: they will not be cowered, I so think, even if it takes them to such length as: they against the world.  No less than Christ  Himself had forewarned his followers of their rejection by the world. In the spirit of fair play, let the bishops do their job as you are doing yours in the most educated manner  that is there for an option.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      well said bro!

      And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

      • observer_din

        kung yung church itinayo ni Cristo sa ibabaw ng bato at di na pananaigan ng mga demonyo bakit maraming narereklamong pari ng pang-aabuso at yung iba nanahimik noong panahon ni Gloria na talamak ang pagnanakaw sa gobyerno? ibig bang sabihin nagkamali si Cristo ng pagtatayuan o hindi ang RCC ang sinasabi ni Cristo na  “MY CHURCH”? tanong lang po,wag magagalit. (sayang napupunta tayo sa religion)

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. <– na intindihan mo to? Gets mo to?
        kung sabay kung demonyo ka, i deny mo to!

      • observer_din

        o galit ka naman,kasi di mo matanggap na napasok ng demonyo ang RCC, sila na nga gates of hell di ba? madami na kayong demonyong mga pari dyan sa RCC, FACT ito dahil sa santambak na mga pari at OBISPONG me kaso sa buong mundo. tapos sasabihin mo the “gates of hell shall not prevail against it”?? gets mo???  HAHAHAHA

    • mikel33torres

      Because of the way they enforce their so called “truths”. Why do they have to force their  beliefs on all Filipinos? Not all of us are Catholics.

      One thing I don’t get is the bishops staunch opposition to birth control. There is no “life” harm in using condoms or pills. Why the overreaction to defending something that does not exist yet? I understand if it’s already a fetus then, it’s abhorrent to get rid of it. Let me ask you a question: if the church is really following the teachings of Christ, then what are they doing for those who are already “born”… i.e, the street children. If they focus their energy defending the “born” than the “unborn”, I would say that are living the life as Jesus would.

  • John Orford

    Since the Philippines is the only country in the world with no divorce law, we believe we are right and the other 196 are wrong.  Passing the RH bill would be a miracle.

    • Gregg Lantin

       Passing or not passing the bill is not miracle, it is democracy…

      BWAHAHAHA + BWAHAHAHAH – BWAHAHAHAH = BWAHAHAHAH

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    YES TO LIFE REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES”

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      machong macho ka bro….hahaha! productive na productive ka!

  • Cruxofthematter

     Truth? Are these really the followers of Christ? If God is a God of order, why do these “followers” espouse, support and encourage disorder by saying that there should be no limitation (in effect) to whatever comes out of our bodies? Is this truth? Much less order?

  • Cruxofthematter

    Fimelilia,  Truth? Are these really the followers of Christ? If God is a God of
    order, why do these “followers” espouse, support and encourage disorder
    by saying that there should be no limitation (in effect) to whatever
    comes out of our bodies? Is this truth? Much less order? Who has been deceived? And who have been deceiving their ownselves? Search and you shall find.

  • Cruxofthematter

    Miracles did happen, do happen and will happen.

    • Gregg Lantin

       kailan, saan at sampol naman….

      BWAHAHAHAH + BWAHAHAHAH – BWAHAHAHAH = BWAHAHAHAH

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      marami ng miracles sa RCC…sa nyo wala pa ba? kawawa naman!

      • observer_din

        alam namin madami nang milagro sa RCC, sa amin sa prubinsya nawala pondo ng simbahan, me mga nagre-reklamong menor de-edad lalaki at babae na pinagsamantalahan ni father, pero wala kaming nabalitaan na napaparusahan, hanggang ngayon active pa din si Father sa ibang lugar nga lang. Iyon ang milagrong alam ko.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        wala pondo simbahan nyo? e born again ka, talagang wala pondo simbahan nyo ubos ni PASTOR un 10% mo? kawawa ka naman!

        awwsss Father tawag mo sa PASTOR nyo? wow…gaya gaya puto maya!

      • observer_din

        anong walang pondo,katoliko ako, saan napupunta ang limos namin?? pwera pa po yung mga personal na inaabot ng tatay ko pag dumadalaw si father sa bahay namin sa prubinsya? Best in cathechism pa po ako noong elementary ako, wag kang magmagaling na alam mo lahat sa katoliko. Ano ba tawag mo sa kura paroko natin di ba FATHER?pero nakasaya, siguro isa ka don??? o baka naman di ka katoliko, nagkukunwari ka lang?HAHAAHA

      • Wdalicante

         May I butt in?  Kayong dalawa kung parehong Katolico kayo huwag na kayong magbangayan pa.  Kanyakanyang opinion tayo.  Kung Pro ang isa ay di pro kung Anti yong isa ay di anti. It’s ones prerogative to choose kung saan ka pero sana huwag lang idamay sa bangayan ang mga pari at obispo nagpapaliwanag lang ng kanilang opinion ang mga iyon in accordance with what they believe and the teachings of the Catholic Church.  Kung naniniwala ka sa kanila ay di okay kung hindi, bahala ka..

      • observer_din

        kasi po mga pari po natin ang mga maiingay sa issue

  • Cruxofthematter

     MX whatever, when does life begin?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      uy alam namin when life begins kaya ayaw naman ng RH BILL. kaw alam mo? 

      • observer_din

        ung sperm na napunta sa condom tao na ba yun? pakilinaw lang po FATHER.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        uy…di lang condom un contraceptive. may pills pa!

        and the pills are not 100% successful in preventing pregnancy!

      • observer_din

        PILLS is 100% successfull sa pagprevent ng pregnancy, my wife has been taking  it for almost ten years at hindi siya nabubuntis, basta sumusunod lang sa tamang pag-inom.Baka yung mga sinasabi mong nabubuntis di araw-araw umiinom.

      • Magsasaka

         walang asawa yan bro, damaso ang isang yan

      • observer_din

        kaya pala, di nga gagamit ng condom yan, puro masturbate ang ginagawa.. hehehe

      • Magsasaka

        hehehe sa malamang nget-pa na damaso yan walang pumapatol kahit pokpok

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        tapos un condom is not 100% too…99% nga lng daw! so gets mo na pag 99% lng? baka di mo alam explain ko pa!

      • observer_din

        sa lahat kasi ng bagay walang perfect, pero yan sinasabi mo na 99%napakalaki nyan, kumpara sa 1%, kasi yung 1% na yun baka binubutas nila condom.So para sa inyo Father ang withdrawal ang pinaka effective? ilang percent naman ang di nabubuntis dahil don? kaya ba ng lahat ng lalaki na “makahugot” bago p***tok? bigyan mo din ako ng FACTS mo. Para lalo ko ma-gets ang point ng pagkontra mo sa RH BILL

      • observer_din

        EAT YOUR HEARTS OUT LOSERSSS!!!!! WAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Cruxofthematter

     MX whatever, my Pastor aint rich and not driving a Paj unlike your bishops. Dahil ba hindi obvious ay di nangugurakot? Ano bang mga bansa na pinakakurot tingnan mo nga.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      un pastor? sure ka? any way ask ko dun kay PACMAN kung magkano nabigay nya dun sa mga huthuterong pastor. 10% din ata un! malaki kaya.

      wala kayo balato dun?

      • observer_din

        EAT YOUR HEARTS OUT LOSERSSS!!!!! WAHAHAHAHAHA

      • sanjuan683

        hehehehehe asar na asar ang mga pari dahil dati sila ang nabibigyan ni Pacman ngayon hindi na kaya naghihimutok sa sama ng loob hahahahahahaha eh papaano naman bigay ng bigay si Pacman sa kanila tapos pinadadala lang sa Rome kay papa ketsup. buwaaaaaaaa hahahah

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    No problem about that! Buti alam mo yan….tama yan!

    RH BILL lng naman ang mali dito!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS KATOLIBAN EXTREMIST TERRORIST”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS YES TO LIFE REPRODUCTION IS MORE FUN  IN THE PHILIPPINES”’

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      MABUHAY President CONDOM and CONTRACEPTIVE! MABUHAY! RH BILL!

      • observer_din

        EAT YOUR HEARTS OUT LOSERSSS!!!!! WAHAHAHAHAHA

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    From now on we will have the CONDOM PRESIDENT. Lets call PINOY with that name for short! MABUHAY PINOY, The CONDOM PRESIDENT! Thanks for passing the RH BILL!

    • observer_din

      MABUHAY PNOY THE CHAMPION OF RH !!!!! BWAHAHAHAHA

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        MABUHAY Pres. CONDOM! CONDOM CONDOM! Mabuhay!

      • Wdalicante

         MABUHAY SI PNOY ABNOY ANG CHAMPION NG RUMARAGASANG HABAGAT ((RH) .  Baka mamamaya sa pagkapanalo nang yes votes may pangalawang Rumaragasang Habagat ang darating dian sa Maynila.  Hala kayo, you don’t get the message sent from above. Sana naman yang mga pro na congressmen/women should open their minds and ponder to the signs of times.

      • observer_din

        NO TO PEOPLE like you who are using natural calamities to inflict fear to people. NO TO YOUR SUPERSTITIONS!!!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        CHAMPION CHAMPION CHAMPION!!! Salamat sa CONDOM CONDOM CONDOM!!! Mr. Pres CONDOM!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    PLS GIVE JUSTICE TO PINOY! MABUHAY CONDOM President! From now on you will be called with that name! The FILIPINO PEOPLE will call you PRES. CONDOM! Thanks thanks sa RH BILL!

    • observer_din

      EAT YOUR HEARTS OUT LOSERSSS!!!!! WAHAHAHAHAHA

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        oo na nga ako! YES TO RH BILL Mabuhay President Pinoy Mabuhap President CONDOM!

      • ARIKUTIK

        Pina sakay lang si Abnoy para pumirma ng URGENT ang RH bill. Ngayong inamin na ng president na kanyang idea ang RH ay panahon na ng tamang pagboto. Sino ang paniniwalaan natin. Ang Abnoy na presidente o ang simbahan na ang tanging hangarin ay pangalagaan ang sangkataohan. Mga Kongressman may panahon pa kayong magbalik loob. Sino ang papaburan ninyo. Ang Abnoy na presidente at ang kanyang PDAF ay pansamantala lang ngunit ang inyong konsensiya ay pang habang buhay. Ano ang gagawin ninyo kung isang araw ay merong umiiyak sa TV dahil namatay sa cancer ang kanyang ina na uminom ng RH pills Mapapalis ba ng PDAF ang kanyang luha.

    • sanjuan683

      heheheh mga talunan magsiiyak na kayo kahit magsisirko kayo diyan panalo pa rin kami. hahahahahaha

    • mikel33torres

      The way you spout your senseless logic just shows that you are an ignorant person who doesn’t even understand the issues involved here. 

  • JosephNess

    ayan…wala nang mahirap, papasa na ang RH bill…may makakain na ang mga mahihirap…adobong condom at paksiw na contraceptives…bwahahahahahahahaha…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

       condom ang pambalot ng dilis para paksiw.

  • johnlagrimas

    The purpose of religion is to control yourself, not to criticize others.
    Rather, we must criticize ourselves. How much am I doing about my
    anger? About my attachment, about my hatred, about my pride, my jealousy? These are the things which we must check in our daily lives.
    ~ Dalai Lama ~

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      ako peace na ko! MABUHAY Pres. CONDOM Mabuhay ka! Isa kang tunay na pinagpala. We really need this RH BILL….Mabuhay Pres CONDOM of the Philippines! 

      Sana may rebolto ka with CONDOM sa tabi mo! Thats your LEGACY to the FILIPINO People!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    YES TO LIFE KUNG TUNAY KANG LALAKE IPUTOK MO SA LOOB WAG MO TAKPAN NG GOMA SUMUNOD KAY CARNIVAL TAGLE AT SA BISHOPS CATHOLIC CHURCH” sige ka magagalit si papa jesus at mama mery”’

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      pinagpala ka Pres CONDOM! CONDOM! CONDOM! CONDOM!

      sana gawan ka ng reboltong CONDOM sa legacy mo! Yes to RH BILL!

      Sa wakas, salamat kay Pres. CONDOM! CONDOM! CONDOM! CONDOM!

  • ARIKUTIK

    Marami ng argumento na binigkas kung bakit hindi kailangan ang RH bill ngunit ang tanging sagot ng Pro RH ay damaso si Bishop. Ngayon, meron bang bansang nag practice ng population control tulad ng RH bill ang hindi nag nanais ngayon na muling mag anak ang kababaihan nila ? Halimbawa ang Singapore, Japan, Germany at marami pang iba. Isang patrunay na ang RH bill ay magdadala ng mas malaking problema pagdating ng araw. Kailangan ng bansa ang manggagawa para patuloy na umunlad. Ayaw tingnan ng Abnoy na presidente ang nagdudumilat na katotohanan. Siya ay isang Intsik at ang pagka unti ng lahing Filipino ay daan para ang mga Intsik ay tuluyang maghari sa Pilipinas.

    • sanjuan683

      Tignan mo mabuti ang lahi mo baka may dugo ka intsik. Kapag talo kayo ay tanggapin ninyo iyan ang tunay na demokrasya. Talo na kayo sa botohan humiirit pa kayo. Baka kung kayo ang nanalo sasabihin ninyo tanggapin namin ang pagkatalo. Sabihin mo sa mga pari magsiuwi na sila. Ang kongreso ay hindi sa mga pari dun sila nababagay sa kumbento.

  • mangtom

    mangtomCollapsemxsclxmxnCollapseisigaw na ba natin ang mabuhay? MABUHAY!!! PINOY – the CONDOM and CONTRACEPTIVE PILLS PRESIDENT! Sagut: kung papipiliin mo ang Filipinos between Condom and Contraceptive Pills President and Mitsubishi President, sino kaya ang pipiliin? Gets mo?You are on the loser camp but hate to admit it.Pass the RH bill. Bravo Mr. President.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      cge na…mabuhay President CONDOM! What a legacy you have! Your brain child RH BILL is what the FILIPINOS need! Mabuhay President CONDOM!
      Let everyone praise Pres. CONDOM! CONDOM! CONDOM! CONDOM!

      Pinagpala ka talaga! CONDOM! CONDOM! CONDOM! dapat may rebolto kang CONDOM so people wont forget your legacy!

      CONDOM! CONDOM! CONDOM! CONDOM!

      • Leonardof

        Sa iyo makikita talaga ang  mga pag-iisip na binubuo ng mga Mitsubishi Bishop sa utak ng mga tinatawag nilang mga KORDERO, MGA WALANG SARILING PAG-IISIP, SUNUDSUNURAN LANG SA UTOS NG MGA PAJERO BISHOPS. Tignan mo, dahil sa nasanay ka sa paulit-ulit na dasal, pati pagsabi sa condom ay paulit ulit na rin. Kordero ka talaga, walang sariling pagiisip.  

  • Rey Cabague

    Mga Kababayan… Ito ba ang gusto nating makita ng mga ibang lahi dito sa mundo na ang mga pinoy nag aaway away? Sana lang mga kapatid tumigil na kayo sa bangayan… pagtuunan nalang natin ng pansin kung paano aangat ang bansa natin. lugmok na tayo sa kahirapan kaming mga OFW gusto na namin umuwi ng Pilipinas at dito manirahan ha. Tama na pakiusap. Ang mga PARI at mga Pulitiko mayayaman na yan at patuloy silang yumayaman habang kayong mga nagcocomment dito at patuloy na naghihirap! 

    PEACE NA SANA TAYONG LAHAT!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      peace! viva Pres. CONDOM! CONDOM! CONDOM! CONDOM!

  • kismaytami

    Simula na nang pagkalugi ng iba’t-ibang negosyo ni padre damaso na naka-pundasyon sa kamangmangan ng ilang Pilipino. Binyag, kumpil, kasal, pati yung mga private schools nila.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2JTHTWLZDG7TCMVCAK2WU2ZY2E boni

    Let us leave the choice to the couple to do what they want while making available the means to help whatever choice they make. As God has freely given us the freedom to choose what we want, then what is the catholic church’s right to impose what is wrong or right. The state is mandated by no less than the constitution to protect its citizen and promote equality including access to proper family planning. The constitution also emphasizes the separation of church and state precisely to avoid expression of disrespect that may create disunity and chaos. But the church is meddling in the affairs of the state and playing god. Oh well, I remember my spanish subject and the characters played by the friars doing everything against God under the robe of the church. If the church is against RH BILL, then what is your alternative to protect the welfare of the families? If you want to play in the formulation of laws, then you must pay your taxes to share the burden of the state in promoting welfare of the people. To all those who voted in favour of the RH bill, history will remember you kindly.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      and 70 to 80% of the population is Catholic! So the law should favor the majority!

      • http://songsofthesalamander.blogspot.com/ Randy Villanueva

        If we ask Filipinos if they want to pay taxes, 70 to 80% or more would say that they do not. Should we abolish taxes? Democracy is not mob rule. And even if a great many Filipinos are Catholics, the social climate shows us that Filipino Catholics do not swallow everything the Catholic hierarchy dishes out.

  • antiscam

    My Advice to PNOY to neutralize the Church opposition of RH Bill : Just return to our Bishops the returned Mitsubishi Montero, Nissan Safari and other luxury vehicles that was previously bribed to them by Gloria Macapagal Arroyo. Our bishops are such suckers for SUV. Just watch these Bishops do a U-Turn of their opinions hahaha….

    GO RH!!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      yes return it to them….yes to RH BILL RH BILL yes yes yo! CONDOM CONDOM CONDOM! batiin natin si Pres CONDOM! sigaw ng BAYAN CONDOM CONDOM CONDOM!!!

  • batangsulpok

    Ang problema sa karamihang katolikong ayaw sa RH bill ay may pagka-plastik dahil marami diyan ang may kabit at siyempre, pinagagamit nila ng condom/contraceptives para di magkaanak, kung hindi, lagot sila sa mga Misis nila kasi mabubuko.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      yes yes yes na tyo sa RH BILL! RH BILL RH BILL…batiin natin ang ating Pres CONDOM! CONDOM CONDOM!

      isa kang pinagpala para sa PILIPINO! salamat sa RH BILL RH BILL!

      kaya CONDOM CONDOM CONDOM…sama kayo pag bati sa kanya!

      CONDOM CONDOM CONDOM!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    The MAJORITY has Spoken.

    The MitsuBishops should SHUT UP.

  • kulittwit

    Ganda ng picture. Ipinapakita lang kung saan ang dapat kalagyan ng mga damaso
    sa pamamalakad ng pamahalaan:  dyan sila sa audience.

    Sa kabilang banda, nakakalungkot din dahil ang mas tamang kalagyan
    nila ay sa simbahan o kumbento nag mi misa o nagdarasal sa halip na
    magbulungan dyan na parang mga hudas. Pulitika ang inaatupag
    napabayaan na ang pinakamahalagang gawain nila: evangelization,
    uplifting the spirituality, and shepherding the flock.

    Parami nang parami ang umaalis sa katoliko hindi man lang uma aksyon
    ang mga obispo. Pa konti ang uma attend ng regular mass kada linggo.

    Malaking bagay ang pag alis ni manny pacquiao sa katoliko. Ang mga
    ganitong bagay ang dapat atupagin ng mga obispo. Kulang na sa pagkalinga
    ang spiritual life ng mga katoliko.
     

  • Leonardof

    Filipinos  who are truly interested for the good of the country  must seriously take note of  those congressmen  who are either anti- progress or are in an unstable footing politically.  These are the ones who are in need of the support of the church. so that they voted against the RH Bill. But it is plain and simple that the RH Bill is meant to arrest the high rate of population growth that if allowed to go on, the country will not succeed in eradicating the vicious cycle of poverty. Thus, for a congressman who do not see the  neccesity of the  RH Bill, is simply a dimwit  or a self-serving politician who simply cares for his pocket.

    • buttones

      Names have been taken.. They are listed on my fridge door…

      • Leonardof

        I hope and pray that there are great number of perceptive people like you.who truly care for the good of the country.

  • UrHONOR

    LIKE pacquiao, DEAD,  DEAD COLD.

  • josefe38

    Di pa tapos ang laban hangga’t di pa isang batas ang nasabing bill. Sakali man maisa batas,  ito na ngayon ang hamon ng simbahan Katoliko na ilabas ang Catholic votes sa May 2013 election. Binuo na ang grupo CATHOLIC VOTE PHILIPPINES, abangan ang May 2013 election para magka alaman!

    • batangsulpok

      Kaya palpak ang gobyerno sa Pilipinas dahil halos katoliko ang mga nakaupo, mga kurakot pa.

      • josefe38

        Mali na logic yan at walang basehan, mga mangmang at walang pinag-aralan lang ang maniwala nyan. 

        Para sa iyong karagdagang kaalaman ang pina ka corrupt na bansa sa buong mundo base sa transparency international world corruption index ay ang sumusunod at alamin mo ano ang kanilang religion at sabihin mo saan dyan na Katoliko ang dominant religion.

        Pina ka corrupt

        1. Somalia
        1. North Korea
        3.Myanmar
        3. Afghanistan5. Uzbekistan5. Turkmenistan5. Sudan8. Iraq

  • Bonggebongge

    Ang hirap sa Pinas, dami nangengealam eh…walang seperasyoin ng gobyerno at simbahan…parang ang simbahang katoliko na ang sumira sa sinabi ni Kristo nuon na dapat hiwalay ang mga ito…halatang di nag babasa ng sarili nilang libro..puros madunong eh…pareho lang ang mga politiko at mga obispo…langya sarswela…pwe

  • joerizal

    Buti pa ang mga obispo may PC tablet…ang mga mahihirap hindi magkaroon ng kahit gamot o tablet para ipagamot ang mga anak nila.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    When the RH Bill was passed in ITALY, the pope was QUIET.

    Why are these lowly bishops so NOISY?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SA NEWZEALAND MAS MARAMI BAKA SA TAO KAYA SAWA SA STEAK SA PILIPINAS MAS MARAMI ANG BATANG HUBO SA BAKA KAYA MARAMING ISNATCHER” DESPERADO”

  • Uwe24

    These clerics are so afraid of loosing their influence to the masses that they even try to skip or alter a law that just passed the legislative hurdles.
    Why are they afraid of loosing power?
    It’s a proven fact that people who are educated are investigating clerical dogmas. Many of them don’t think the word of a priest or a bishop, cardinal or even the pope is the word of god. They see the person who claims to be the wisdom itself. Unlike the uneducated masses: They think and BELIEVE the church is gods foothold on earth and the priests are his speakers. If the RH bill becomes effective there might be the chance of improving the education of the Filipinos and that makes church afraid! The priest would like us to believe that earth is a disc in the center of the universe with Rome in it’s middle! That’s the reason why they don’t want to accept the bill!!!

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