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Maguindanao massacre trial could take ‘55,000 years’

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IN MEMORIAM Catholic priest Fr. Robert Reyes blesses the ground where some of the 57 massacre victims were found on Nov. 23, 2009, at Ampatuan town in Maguindanao province. JEOFFREY MAITEM/INQUIRER MINDANAO

The day-to-day legal clashes in court may have become more intense and personal but there’s still no end in sight in the trial of close to 200 defendants in connection with the Maguindanao massacre case.

To speed up hearings, private prosecutor Harry Roque has recommended trimming the number of defendants from 196 to just 35 to focus on those who were primarily responsible for the planning and killing two years ago of 57 people, mostly media workers.

He said the other defendants could be charged with lesser offenses. “At the rate we are going, it could take us at least 20 years to finish this,” Roque said.

At present, there are 196 defendants, each of whom are facing 57 cases. “That’s 11,172 cases. And international studies say that it takes five years to try a single case in the Philippines. So that’s 55,000 years,” Roque said.

He said that not everyone responsible was charged with war crimes after World War II. “Let’s just focus on the primary accused . . . the Ampatuan family and those who actually pulled the trigger,” he added.

On the eve of the second anniversary of the massacre, Amnesty International lamented the “very slow wheels of justice.” The London-based group pressed the government to ensure “effective remedy” for the victims and their families, and to “break the continuing impunity.”

A Catholic bishop dared the government to apply to the case the same speed it demonstrated in pursuing criminal charges against former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.

“If they were able to have a speedy resolution on Arroyo’s case overnight, they can also do it with the case involving the Maguindanao massacre,” Cotabato Auxiliary Bishop Jose Colin Bagaforo said over Church-run Radio Veritas.

Not forgotten

Deputy presidential spokesperson Abigail Valte assured the public that the Aquino administration had not forgotten about the case and that it hoped that it would be resolved under its watch.

Valte said that when the President last spoke with the relatives of the massacre victims he told them that the government would extend them assistance and that “we will not forget what happened.”

The Maguindanao massacre on Nov. 23, 2009, left 57 people dead, including 32 media workers, in what is considered to be the worst election-related violence in the country’s history. The remains of the 58th victim, a media worker, have yet to be found.

It was also the single incident anywhere around the world with the biggest number of media practitioners being killed, international press organizations pointed out.

The media workers were part of a convoy traveling with the wife of Esmael Mangudadatu who was going to file her husband’s certificate of candidacy. Mangudadatu’s wife was accompanied by women relatives and friends. They were all killed. Six other civilians who happened to be passing by were also killed.

Many at large

Two years after the gruesome murders, not even half of the alleged perpetrators are in jail. Out of the 196 suspects, only 93 have so far been captured by the authorities.

Prosecutors have given to the police the names of around 20 prominent suspects out of the 103 people who are still at large but there is still “no word as to what happened to them.”

Of the 93 detained, 29 have yet to be arraigned, including Zaldy Ampatuan, former governor of the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao.

Moreover, 50 of the 64 accused who have been arraigned such as primary suspect former Mayor Andal “Datu Unsay” Ampatuan Jr. have asked the court to allow them to post bail. Presiding Judge Jocelyn Solis Reyes has yet to rule on their petitions as the court is still hearing arguments.

“Last year, we were delayed for seven or eight months until September because they asked the judge to inhibit herself. We could have presented at least 20 witnesses during that time,” said private prosecutor Nena Santos, a lawyer of the Mangudadatus.

The prosecution has so far presented 72 witnesses out of the “not less than 300 witnesses” it intends to present.

18 years

The defense team expects the trial to last 18 years before the judge could finally come out with a ruling, said a defense lawyer, who declined to be identified. He himself is planning to present at least 325 witnesses for his client.

“The Maguindanao massacre case is nothing to sneeze at,” the lawyer said, adding that the public should refrain from pre-judging the case since the defense has not presented its witnesses.

He also pointed out that the 72 witnesses the prosecution had presented were not all for the criminal cases because they included the private complainants testifying on the civil aspect of the case.

In recent weeks, defense lawyers have tried to push for the court to hold actual hearings on Mondays to expedite the cases even if only the private complainants are presented.

3 hearings a week

The court practically holds three hearings a week—motions are heard on Mondays in Quezon City while the actual trial is conducted at Camp Bagong Diwa in Bicutan, Taguig City, on Wednesdays and Thursdays.

Judge Reyes initially favored the proposal after private prosecutor Prima Quimsayas, who represents families of some of the slain media workers, said she could present her clients.

“Monday is open. The court can accommodate the parties should they decide to present private complainants or other incidents,” Reyes said.

However, state prosecutors balked at the defense motion, saying that they would be hard-pressed to hold three days of hearings every week.

“(Quimsayas’) proposal was made on the understanding that other private prosecutors would agree but they have not,” State Prosecutor Peter Medalle told the court.

Other prosecutors say they would be hard-pressed to present witnesses three times a week as they would have to be flown from Mindanao and briefed before they can be presented in court.

State prosecutors also pointed out that they were handling other criminal cases besides the Maguindanao massacre case.

Amend rules

Santos said prosecutors were hoping that witnesses, who had testified and were cross-examined by some of the defense lawyers, would no longer be recalled to be reexamined again by other defense lawyers. However, this would entail amending court rules.

“Our target is to finish presenting the prosecution’s evidence in three years but that depends on the cross examination. We don’t control cross and there are many defense lawyers repeating questions already asked during their own cross,” she said.

Roque went further and said the Supreme Court should look into amending the Rules of Court to allow the lawyers of prominent defendants to present their witnesses once the prosecution wraps up its presentation in a particular case.

“I think we can do this in Unsay’s case and have a ruling in two years. Otherwise, we are not getting anywhere… even if we hold daily hearings,” Roque said.

Bogged down

“We’re bogged down in cross-examination and the witnesses will be recalled all over again,” he added.

Santos said that at least, after the original panel of prosecutors in the case were replaced in April, the prosecution team has been faster in preparing its witnesses.

Judge Reyes has been freed from handling other cases after the Supreme Court this year appointed two pairing judges to assist her—one to handle more than 220 criminal cases and another to try around 200 civil cases.

However, while these cases have been assigned to other judges, their paperwork is still handled by Reyes’ court staff.

The case file of the Maguindanao massacre has reached 38 volumes of pleadings and orders, with documents filed almost everyday. With reports from TJ Burgonio, Jocelyn R.  Uy, Christine O. Avendaño and Julie M. Aurelio

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  • Anonymous

    Mali kasi. Bakit sa isang korte lang ang hearing. Pwede naman iyung ibang accused e sa ibang korte. Tapos kaagad yan.

  • Anonymous

    55,000 years? We have the worst airport and the worst justice system. Stupid, stupid, stupid. I almost threw up when I read this title of this piece of news. Why don’t you make it 55,000,000 years? Nothing can be more dumb than this. It goes to show that we don’t know what we are doing. Dumb, dumb, dumb.!!!

    Let us stop playing if we want to move forward. Cut down the BS. Get to work, for Heaven’s sake.

  • Anonymous

    There’s got to be a better way, such a flawed system.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E7SFPQFWHHEAJ4IZKPD7OYJXVM Jabba

    convict first the ampatuan pigs, andal sr. and jr., and zaldy. these pigs must go to bilibid immediately so that they can be sodomized with dagger like gadhafi!

  • Anonymous

    “At the rate we are going, it could take us at least 20 years to finish this,” Roque said. <.< Wow! Yaman na ng mga Fortun nyan. Per appearance per hearing per consultation etc. pera and that will be almost infinite years to finish.

    We really need to change our justice system. Like making it 1 week – 6months maximum.

  • Anonymous

    That means, the judge hearing the case would turn so old, he will retire and give way to a new judge who will need to review the case for another year. 

    And when the Ampatuans get impoverished paying their lawyers and could no longer avoid paying them, , cheaper newer and incompetent lawyers will be hired.  That’s the only time they will lose the case and go to jail.  But not before.

  • http://twitter.com/JAndreRC Andre C

    Well, I say let the perpetrators rot in in jail within that 55,000 years. No bail.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IOQ4UHZ3OCDDBDOWCA5O3AEQBM Cayetano

    For the sake of information who had sole jurisdiction over court rules. It is the Judiciary or the Executive? I believe that both of this branch of government can work together to facilitate the speedy implementation of justice for the Ampatuan massacre victims. The Legislative can also help by making laws for this matter. If current practice and the way the Ampatuan use their money that case will last until all their money is spent. The only irony on this is that the money of Ampatuan will transfer to the lawyers and they become billionaires.

    The people can assist the victims family through active participation in any forum and by pressuring the Judiciary.  

  • Anonymous

    I agree. If they insist on delaying tactics, don’t give them bail. That will be a prison sentence by default.

  • Anonymous

    Fr. Robert Reyes should go back to running and raise a fund to help the victims’ kin and relatives. Blessing  the place where the horrible crime happened  is no different from a witch doctor casting away evil spirits.

  • Anonymous

    Bishop Bagaforo talks with his feet in his mouth. The filing of cases is different than prosecuting them.The bishop scoffs at the fact that before the case of election sabotage was filed against the Arroyos, the preparation took almost 2 years. And even the modality of the preparation is in itself facing the possibility of being sanctioned as illegal because of technicality.

    His heart, his sympathy is with the Arroyos. Never mind the injustice and the stealing of money, is that it Bishop? 

    By the way, why do you have to speed up the resolution of the case? Let those murderers rot in jail.   

  • Anonymous

    What utter stupidity! Lawyers ger rich while victims suffer!

    Come on President Aquino – sort out this mess NOW!!!

  • Anonymous

    55,000 years to try this ampatuan, only in the philippines, talaga din naman wow, hindi na uso ang tao in 55,000 years from now.

  • Anonymous

    street justice is very loud…… for this people

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GBMBRBBPEG5LKJBY3HLJJBG7DU jose

    So does that mean the law firm of Narvasa-Fortun will be in business for the next 55,000 years…?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TAFVA5LSGQ32CVNIPT5DYIKLEY Dan

    He should think about it before the trial starts. Its not that he just know about it yesterday. Amending the rule will not happen overnight. It need to be done properly, if not, the accused will use the “unconstitutional” here “unconstitutional” there and “technicality” approach. I admire Harry Roque, however, sometimes he talk too much in front of the camera without checking all the facts.

  • Anonymous

    35 defendants x 57 cases per defendant x 5 years each case = 9,975 years

  • Anonymous

    it’s not for the president to sort out. it is for the supreme court to amend its rules as stressed by atty. roque. and his 55,000 years is an exaggeration over the matter but a case in point that justice as it is not grinding too slowly. so far, they have presented 72 witnesses despite all the motions and dilatory tactics employed by the ampatuans.

    also, this is the first time that a judge was assigned to a particular case, with all the cases raffled to her branch being heard by other judges. the same should be transferred to their respective sala in order to unload judge reyes’ staff and let them focus too on the maguindanao cases.

    probably, what the DOJ can do is also assign at least one of its prosecutors to handle the case so that there won’t be postponement in the hearing of these cases. but if that prosecutor would be tasked to handle the preparation/briefing and presentation of all the more than 300 witnesses, that would be taxing. the private prosecutors should help in the presentation of witnesses even those who are not the private complainants in these cases. which the way it looks like from the report above was that they are concentrating on assisting the private complainants only. 

  • Anonymous

    So much focus on the technicalities, proceed to concentrate on the main culprits and try the case.  A simple thing made hard by liars este lawyers.

  • Anonymous

    Create a special court to hear the case 8 hours a day, that’s what we taxpayers are paying the judges for.  We should also set a deadline for the case.  Finish or not finish pass your judgement.  The guilty ones are already so obvious that they could missed them.

  • Anonymous

    Valte’s claim of private concerns popping up regarding the Maguindanao massacre might be true but definitely it must be selective personal concerns! After two years of languishing in our courts the case looks like very far fetched to be resolve in PNoy’s remaining years in office. No amount of alibi would be decent enough to justify more unwanted delay. The fact that they can act swiftly as in the case of GMA only proves the government has all the resources and the might to pursue vigorously and not be too adamant. If they claim GMA’s is a high profile case, so is the death of 58 innocent victims! These cases must be treated with equal dedication otherwise, it would definitely be unacceptable. Obviously, the nations leadership is being vindictively selective in its priorities! The eyes of the whole  world is on us so better shape up or be judged not the way you would like it to be.

  • Anonymous

    If preparations alone for cases takes two years before being filed, that must be the reason why justice is delayed and if it is the norm then it is also the reason why justice is denied in our country. Surely, prosecution have been finding it hard to acquire proofs and witnesses that will hold in court if it takes that long. From what I know only a few of the murderers are rotting in jail and the majority of them are still at large, which brings up the question, is the government that helpless!

  • Anonymous

    That is true but the buck always stops at the President. He decides the policies!

  • Anonymous

    What a justice system!!  In such an important case as this, that has attracted so much attention world-wide, is there no way that Judge Reyes can be relieved of her other cases?  For the sake of the families of the victims, the court should be sitting every day!  And where defence lawyers are using delaying and stalling tactics, or simply lodging frivolous objections, they should be formally warned once and once only, following which they should be sanctioned!

    And what of Judge Reyes, herself.  What’s her health like?  God forbid, that she gets ill, or worse so ill that she can’t continue.  What happens then in our completely dysfunctional system?  Does the trial have to start all over again??

    This case progresses at a snail’s pace because the Ampatuans have money and can afford to retain large numbers of lawyers indefinitely.  We know already that most of this money has been stolen from public funds – just read the COA reports if there’s even a scintilla of doubt in anyone’s mind.  So why not bring a concurrent plunder case against them and freeze their assets.  I suspect that without access to their “treasure trove” to pay their lawyers and bribe witnesses to recant their testimony, this case would speed up dramatically.

    Anyway, if all else fails and the case does drag on for years let’s all ensure they stay in jail, without bail, until they die!  Good riddance!!

  • Anonymous

    What? Do you think we would still be around during that time? It is unfortunate that these criminal cases had taken place on this earth. It’s only in the Philippines that this kind of justice system is taking place. If this is happening in the proper courts, did the government and the civil society groups try to take a look at the rate on how labor cases are being dispensed at the National Labor Relations Commission? I was told that a single labor case takes about 10 years before it could be decided upon by the NLRC regional arbitration branches. And if the cases are not settled at the level of the labor arbiters, the cases will be elevated to the Executive Commission as per 2011 Revised Rules of Procedures of the NLRC. Cguro dapat din tingnan ito ng mga kasamahan natin sa medya kung totoo ba itong sinasabi ng NLRC sa kanilang website na lamang ang kanilang disposition of labor cases kaysa mga pending cases. Di kaya nag kakalagayan dito?

  • Anonymous

    All the labor arbiters did at the Regional Arbitration Branches of the NLRC is to let the petitioners and the respondents exchange position papers. How long are they gonna exchange position papers? For 10 years? I don’t think so. I think the Secretary of the DOLE must look into this considering that labor cases are also raffled off and if a labor case is not included in the quota, so be it. No chance but to wait for many years before a particular labor case could be decided upon.

  • Anonymous

    Mr. President Aquino, please try to look into the performance of the NLRC’s Regional Arbitration Branches if they are really doing their duties as public servants. If not, they could either resign or retire from government service.

  • Pulis Na Pogi

    so the tuwid na daan is actually a very long and very winding road?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3YP4EMPFDNOAZ4NZTDKRKGY64U Mikey

    Ok lang kung 55,000 yrs din nakakulong ang mga ampatuans habang nililitis ang kaso.

  • Anonymous

    on executive matters, that is true that the buck stops at the president. not on judicial matters. as it is, the corona court, from day 1, was not cooperative. they’re very protective of their salaries and other benefits but not of the rights and interests of the people. 

    cguro what the executive can do is insist on requiring the judiciary to account for all of the fees it received and granted to the justices and all its employees. and ask COA to do a true-blue audit of judiciary funds. tit-for-tat.

    if al capone cannot be held accountable for all his crimes, he can at least be jailed for innocuous offense. same with SC and its justices.

  • Anonymous

    it would take the SC to amend the rules of procedure to do this, that is, create a special court. and it would take an amendment to the constitution to do the other, that is, decide the case on deadline, finish or not finish. as it is, our constitution guarantees the accused too much rights and opportunities. the legal maxim, which has been abused a lot of times, was it is better to put a guilty person free than incarcerate an innocent man. weird but a lot should still be done in our justice system.

  • Anonymous

    yes sir. sociologists say you have to kill this generation and start all over with a new generation in order to effect meaningful change. that is one way of saying either annihilate all the Filipinos, save newborn babies, or just dream on.

    frustrating? yes. all we can do is start planting the seeds of goodness, justice, fairness, fair play, and everything that is good, in governance, government, and governed. it will eventually yield much fruit for the generations to come to harvest.

    meaning, it won’t come during our time. it will be for our children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren. though it is nice to hope that we will see the rays of change during our lifetime.

  • Anonymous

    Look at it from the point of the defendants…

    Naka-kulong na sila, nililitis pa lang ang kaso.  Maraming taon silang maku-kulong bago nila malaman ang verdict.

    Paano kung not-guilty pala?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Delfin-Dano/100000369657039 Delfin Dano

    You still believe the Ampatuans are not guilty of the crime they are accused of?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Delfin-Dano/100000369657039 Delfin Dano

    OK lang tumagal ang paglilitis sa kaso basta detained ang mga principal suspects hangang matapos. Pareho na rin yun sa hatol na habang buhay. Malakas naman ang mga ebidensiya laban sa mga accused sa kasong ito a.

  • Anonymous

    F_ _ K  our justice system!

  • Dexter Mc Cann

    This is a reflection of our slow justice system. Something must be done to speed it up, in general.

  • Anonymous

    Replying to Delfin Dano,

    Hindi naman, hypothetical situation lang sa mga kaso sa Pilipinas. 

    Daming naka-kulong dahil walang pam-pyansa.  Daming naka-kulong, na frame-up lang ng mga pulis na gustong kumita.  Daming naka-kulong na wala namang talagang sala. Daming naka-kulong dahil talagang kriminal sila.

    Naa-alala mo pa ba ang kaso ni Hubert Webb, et al? — Mabagal ang gulong ng hustisya.

  • Anonymous

    HINDI ako abogado at hindi din ako magaling sa pag-inntindi ng kung ano-anong mga kababalaghan ang pinaggagawa ng mga abogado at mga hukom sa hukuman.  Pero kung gagamitan lamang ng sentido komon ang usaping ito, hindi naman kailangang litisin ang lahat kaagad.  UNAHIN ang mga TNL na mga AMPATUAN….saka isunod ang mga galamay nila.  Simple lang.  Ilan lang naman ang mga ampatuan na nasasakdal….kayang-kayang tapusin yan sa ilang buwan lamang KUNG GUGUSTUHIN ng nakaka-alam.

    Heto ang magandang mungkahi:  KUNG hindi kaya ng court system tapusin kaagad ang kasong ito na matagal ng nakabinbin at pangiti-ngiti na lamang ang mga ampatuan dahil sa sirkong napapanood nila sa korte……IBALATO na lamang sa mga taong-bayan ang pagpapasiya ng kaso.  Let the public decide on what’s the best course to take.  Kung bitay ba o garote! 

  • http://twitter.com/judefawley Jude Fawley

    “Maguindanao massacre trial could take ‘55,000 years” hahahahaha so funny.

  • Anonymous

    Very simple arithmetic (grade school level) to solve this case in less than a year. Trim down the defendants to 5 or less! so that cross examination and the oral argument of prima facie evidences would also be trimmed down!?? I’m only a graduate with basic subjects of Law but the thing is….THE LAWYERS OF THIS CASE WANTED TO HAVE A LOT OF MONEY COMING FROM THE CLIENTS! Lawyers on this case, SHAME ON YOU! The international community is watching and laughing!, obviously! 20 years huh!

  • tp412

    Matalo,manalo..si atty. HARRY ROQUE ang dakilang sispsip ni noynoy ang panalo,dyang sa maguundanao masaacre na yan….yan ang pinaka-magnanakaw na sumisipsip sa laht ng  kabobohan ni noynoy !!

  • Guest

    maganda yan
    ibig sabihin
    lifetime imprisonment na ang mga nahuli

    pnp ano pa ang ginagawa niyo
    HULIIN NA ANG LAHAT

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A7PQXB4HHZB7KH4BXK7LJXGNOY Mike

    The problem should point to the justice system and the people within it. Sila ang nagpapabagal ng batas dahil lagi nila pinapayagan ang mga motions ng defendant. SC must comes-up with a new rules to speed-up the arraigment.
    Regarding the Ampatuan case, what the Govt can do is only monitoring and support to the prosecutor hanggang doon lang yun kasi hindi hawak and dictated nila ang sched and reaction ng Judge and courts.
    Kaya for those people asking the Govt for a speedy justice, wrong barking on the wrong tree, better focus your gun to Supreme court most especially to Atty. Midas, sa kanya reporting ang mga judge nationwide.

  • Guest

    tiba tiba rin ang mga abogado

  • sweet_rashen22

     17 months in Aquino administration… I wonder what are they doing or maybe may timeline sila di kaya? Marami naman witnesses and evidences…  kung gustuhin and if seryoso may paraan… just saying..

  • Anonymous

    Don’t be confused with “almost 2 years”, it is not 730 days.
    I am alluding to the election cheating case of Gloria Arroyo. If you are getting restless before you see this cheater behind bars, just remember Gloria has put insurance in the form of Corona and the 7 dwarfs and layers upon layers of covers to mislead the people who are tasked to investigate all of the bad things she did.
     
    Regarding the Ampatuans, they are being tried in the court already. Only that the defense attorneys are putting hindrances after hindrances to the prosecution. But can we do smething about that? No, because they are employing tactics that are along the protection clauses of the Constitution. Yes, there are individuals that were involved in the massacre and yet they are not in the prison yet. Murder has no prescription period and sooner or later the long arm of the law will catch on them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sirhodge Roger Lagarde

    Ipalipat na lang kaya natin kay Judge Mupas ng Pasay RTC ang kaso… baka pwede para mabilisan din…

  • Anonymous

    Humirit na naman yung isang ungas na obispo. Puro mga pakialamero!

  • Anonymous

    hindi ba ito pwedeng madaliin katulad ng kaso ni gloria?? kung ebidensya din lang naman ang pag-uusapan eh napakarami nun para ituro kung sinu talaga ang dapat parusahan..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_36KVESJKNOTCOGQXPOCARZNTAI Marjorie Santiago

    If I am in the position, I will be glad to bring this criminals into firing squad…but only half of their body will be targetted, while their blood pour out of their body,  and as soon they succomb to death.

  • Anonymous

    yan naman kadalasan papel ng simbahang katotoliko ang mangialam sa usaping pang gobyerno, akala mo naman me naitutulong sila sa pag asenso ng bansan natin eh karamihan sa kanila mga mahilig sa pedopilya. 

  • Anonymous

    The wheel of justice is really slow, especially if the accused are well-connected and rich like the Ampatuans.  I doubt if they will outlive their case.  At least, they are behind bars.  Hopefully, they are not getting  special privileges while incarcerated.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OAFZIN56TAAM73TEKNPNEBQV3U AdrianD

    focusing too much on technicalities often leads to injustice.
     
    laws are created to light our path to righteousness and truth, not to satisfy the academes of law.
     
    This is one of the reason why jury system are used by some courts.

  • Anonymous

    That is the price we pay for the kind of justice system we have.  It sucks but that is the only justice we have unless a new one is introduced to cut down the backlogs on court cases.  The real problems here is that for those defendants numbering in a hundred, only one judge was tasked to hear the cases.  One can imagine the difficulties one judge is facing attending to all those under his jurisdiction.

    Why can’t they break down the load by distributing the cases to other judges? or perhaps and better yet, why  not adopt a jury system where ordinary citizens on the street should be utilized and made part of the justice system so that the judgment would be at the hands of these ordinary citizens and free the hands of the judges to look after other cases?  The verdict would be fast and final unlike what the judge would face making decisions for so many defendants at the same time.

    Or cut down the bullshiits of hearings when several corruborating witnesses identified the person or persons who did it and go straight to rendering a verdict of guilty?  What our system is trying to do is to delay the trials by subscribing into the illusion of “innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt” thing.  If the witness/es saw the commission of a crime and handpicked the person who did it, what the heck is the significance of this “innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt” would prove?  The criminal cannot UNDO the guilty identification of a witness or group of witnesses for the crime committed NO MATTER HOW LONG THE case/es would be tried in a court of law!  So, why not cut the bullshiits and give the verdict of guilty within a day or two?

    Many had indentified an Ampatuan mayor who was the leader of those criminals who ambushed those journalists and wife and relatives of Mangudadatu!  Can that Ampatuan mayor declare those eyewitnesses BLIND by prolonging the trial by stupid questions and answers and cross examinations of witnesses?  Of course, not!  The verdict would be the same – GUILTY anyway, (unless of course, the judge can be bought which leads us into a different situation) so, why the delay?

  • Anonymous

    Why not give it to the Arroyo court? Get the charge, raffle the case in 5 minutes and issue arrest orders in 3 hours. And then impeach, disbar all defense lawyers and sentence  all accused to life term. Those who will lbame GMA will then be pardoned by Noy.

  • Anonymous

    we should adapt the jury system. In that way, the sole decision do not lay on one person alone. It is harder to bribe a group of person than a lone one. Such decision where the consequence have great effect on the person/persons involved should be discussed and deliberated and voted by a group of intelligent and wise citizens. And also, as some comments have said, too much technicality can lead to injustice, as we had seen in the case of Arroyo where they tried to leave the country in apparent haste which is kinda illogical if they are really innocent.

  • Anonymous

    This stupidity about Corona makes me soon vomiting. If you do not know what a Chief Justice really van do, then stop posting this idiotry. In voting, Corona is one vote, the same than the Aquino judges. He can not order voting and he can not reverse it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JPTNDESPV6LZ7XFLVRKTDEXOOA noel

    pinapatagal lang nila yong hearing alam naman nila kung sino ang may utos………mga abogado talaga sa atin iniisip lang nila yong kikitain nila….simple lang yan panagutin yong mastermind at kasuhan lahat yong sumama ano pa bang ebidensya ang kailangan mo……….57 yong namatay….alangan nagutos yan eh yong pangkaraniwang mamayan lang…………huhuhuhu ano ba ang sistema ng hustisya sa bansa natin………

  • Anonymous

    Well, Sec De Lima will not benefit from this case. She must focus on GMA because that’s what the people wants and talk about more than the Maguindanao Massacre. Why she will waste her time.

    Sec De Lima of Department of Justice of whom???? Of course the case is with the court already and she can’ do anything about it. tsk tsk tsk… what a pity….

  • Anonymous

    “The Maguindanao massacre case is nothing to sneeze at,” the lawyer
    said, adding that the public should refrain from pre-judging the case
    since the defense has not presented its witnesses.

    Me witness ka pang nalalaman atty. Fortun. Mukha kang “PERA”. Anong mapapala mo pag naipanalo mo ang kaso ng mga ampatuan. Does that make you a fulfilled lawyer? What about ideals Atty. Fortun? Don’t you have one? Puro na lang pera ideals mo? Magaling ka nga di mo naman ginagamit ang galing mo in the name of justice for the poor. Marami ka na naman naipanalo na high profile cases ah.. mayaman ka na at bawing bawi ka na sa ginastos mo sa pag aaral ng law at kahit pa siguro di na magtatrabaho mga apo mo di sila magugutom. Tama na umaapaw na pera mo sa bangko.

  • Anonymous

    even in a jury system, this case would not be finished in two years considering the magnitude of the crime, victims and accused. also before marathon hearings under jury system, all motions would first be threshed out. sometimes, it takes 2 years, or more, to finish all that. and we are taking of a single case, with one accused. 

    as it is, there are 57 murder cases against 196 accused. so far, even if only 93 were arrested, each of them would hire a lawyer to represent them. and each accused, under our system of government and Constitution, has the right to cross-examine each of the more than 300 witnesses of the government and they have the right to present such number of witnesses to prove their innocence.

    and since our courts are courts of record, everything should be recorded and in writing. thus, daily hearings is not possible since the stenographers have to transcribe what transpired in a particular hearing especially if it involves the presentation of a witness who is still testifying. without the transcript, the hearing may be postponed.

    hopeless? hindi pa naman. probably, as i have stated in previous comments, the Supreme Court can unload the sala of judge reyes from hearing and attending other cases and let the judge and her staff focus on the maguindanao cases only until fully terminated. and only the SC can do that. not even the president can change the current state of things in our judicial system.

  • Anonymous

    There is no problem if the case will last for 55,000 years so long as the accused stay in jail during the trial. One thing is sure here: 57 people were brutally murdered and there must be people to be held accountable. WE want long lasting and genuine peace in Mindanao. Insha Allah. Allahu Akbar!

  • Anonymous

    nasaan na ng DOJ,  Commission on Human Rights, Black and White, Hontiveros at si Fr. Reyes, bakit tahimik kayo…. mag-rally kayo para sa mga victims ng massacre… 500 days na ang kaya lang bang iralroad ay si Arroyo…  o kaya naman sisihin ninyo rin ang SC

  • Anonymous

    let china handle it and it will only take 1 month to verdict. then after 2 years, they will be hanged

  • Anonymous

    tama, para naman justice for all” daw…. Why not give it to the Arroyo court? Get the charge, raffle the case in 5 minutes and issue arrest orders in 3 hours. And then impeach, disbar all defense lawyers and sentence  all accused to life term. Those who will lbame GMA will then be pardoned by Noy.  agree…. agreee… agreee…

  • Anonymous

    The good-for-nothing, lazy Senator Joker Arroyo said 200 years will be needed to finish the Ampatuan massacre case instead of giving advise on how to speed up the case.

  • Anonymous

    Fr. Reyes? That politically-motivated running priest? He’s busy planning for a media blitz. Massacres are not within his agenda.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EU6YSAVT4NB3OCKR4ZS6CN2CGA San Miguel

    O ayan De Lima… nananawagan ang mundo ng speedy trial para sa maguindanao massacre… go na….gawin mo yung ginawa kay gloria……. wag magpahalata na naka concetrate lang kayo ni Pnoy kay gloria..patunayan mo na karapat-dapat kang maging senadora…..

  • Anonymous

    Give the case to Judge Mupas, it will be finished in a month. Super Judge yata yan.

  • Anonymous

    @katabay1106:disqus NO! 5 minutes only……..

  • Anonymous

    Vote for Dilemma if the Maguindanao Massacre will be Case Closed Before elections…… I repeat CASE CLOSED.

  • Anonymous

    If this will be the case, good luck Philippines!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QNLU7TV6IMDQ44UDLCQEUTFFNE Pizza Ria

    bakit nakarating ang paring yan dyan?  nag-jogging na naman siguro.  tigilan na reyes yang mga kabulastugan mo, pati abito idinadamay mo sa iyong pagkukunwari.

  • Anonymous

    let the people responsible of the massacre, be given street justice, tondo style

  • Anonymous

    Nakakaawa ang mga taong nagagalit sa bagay na hindi nila nauunawaan. 
    Ang pag-prosecute ng kaso sa korte ay hindi sa pangangasiwa ng DOJ. Kung mabagal ang usad ng Ampatuan case ay dahilan sa patong-patong at sunod-sunod na motion ng mga abogado ng mga Ampatuan at ang lahat ng iyon ay legal at nasa Saligang Batas. Bakit ninyo sisihin si de Lima?

    The bishop does not know the difference between filing cases to the court and prosecuting cases by the courts. He mentioned about speedy resolution. Will someone remind that bishop that Gloria’s alleged cheating in the election is far from having been resolved?

  • Anonymous

    This description of the situation is quite clear. Please read this manong_ian before you post idiotic remark.

  • Anonymous

    At one point in our history, Fortun, Saguisag, Joker Arroyo and Lagman were names of people that we looked up to. And they all have self-destructed.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ITE4Z5BIUZYXI5S7Q2AKDYOM5I Budoy

    Masasabi ko lang dito ay Hahahaha.  Bakit hindi ito binigyan priority ni De Mali este De Lima?  Di ba to napansin ng kanyang boss?  puro kasi polticizing ang mga gusto kaya eto sigurado after 100 years mare resolve.  Congrats to the Ampatuans.

  • Anonymous

    This Corona Supreme Court has issued decisions and promulgations that gravely diminished its stature, namely:

    1. The resolution of the case of SMC stocks bought with UCPB money.

     2. The recall of its decision in re the PAL union.

    3. It declared the formation of the Truth Commission was illegal. This Supreme Court seems to be on the side of the corrupt and those who stole money from the government. No PCGG could have been formed if Corona was the Chief of Justice then. He does not believe in finding the truth, only in protecting his benefactor, the evil Gloria. South Africans were better off, none of them was afraid that a Truth Commission was established.

    One can suspect quite easily that this Supreme Court members are corrupt and their interpretation of the law is “for sale”.

  • Anonymous

    the Aquino administration has taken almost none of the steps agreed upon in the August 2010 meeting between media advocacy and journalists’ organizations and his communication group and the department of justice as necessary to stop the killings.  Among these steps were Malacañang support for changes in the rules of court to speed up the judicial process, and the inclusion of media representatives in the formation of Quick Response Teams to immediately investigate the killing of journalists and assure the preservation of evidence in the crime site.

  • Anonymous

    After his pledge in his 2010 SONA to prosecute murderers, Mr. Aquino has been surprisingly silent when it comes to both extrajudicial killings and the killing of journalists.  A statement from him each time anyone, whether activist or journalist,  is murdered declaring his displeasure over the failure of the police to prevent it, and ordering immediate police action, could prod the police to greater efficiency and  warn the would–be killers  that things have changed since the Arroyo regime,  and they will now be prosecuted. Mr. Aquino has also yet to dismantle the private armies, despite their role in the November 23 massacre and in a number of other cases of political and journalists’ murders in other parts of the country.

  • Anonymous

    In addition to the killings that have continued in the Aquino administration, a number of community journalists have also been threatened, sued for libel on the flimsiest grounds, barred from attending interviews and press conferences, and physically assaulted. In a recent incident, unidentified persons also burned a Catholic Church-owned radio station in Occidental Mindoro. All are indicative of a state of mind among those who want to silence the press that could, in the present circumstances, lead to murder.

  • Anonymous

    President Benigno Aquino III declared in his 2010 State of the Nation Address (SONA) that his administration would “hold murderers accountable.” Despite that pledge, six journalists have been killed since then, or a total of ten since the Ampatuan Massacre of November 23, 2009 which claimed the lives of 58 men and women, of whom 32 were journalists and media workers. Dozens of human rights workers, political activists, labor leaders and others have also been abducted, tortured and killed during the same period.

  • Anonymous

    55,000 years only, i will be 55,044 by then. Hope i am not bald

  • Anonymous

    The wheels of Justice in our country is not slow…It is VERY SLOW. BY the time, the case is heard…the dependants are already dead.

  • Anonymous

    I am not against Catholic priest Fr. Robert Reyes in blessing the ground where some of the 57 massacre victims were found on Nov. 23, 2009, at Ampatuan town in Maguindanao province. We have freedom to practice our religion, hindi ba?

    However, if Fr. Reyes’s purpose is to bring peace to the souls of the murdered victims; then his action will be in vain unless all the murderers were caught and convicted by our law.

    And if there exist such turbulent and disturbed souls of the victims; the spirit shall already haunted those perpetrators down and torture them to death and burn them in hxxl.

  • Anonymous

    my post reflects that you liked it. but your reply post called it idiotic remark. i just stated factual matters. they’re not figment of my imagination. hope that if you do not like the remarks of others, that you at least refrain from posting malicious words. thank you.

  • Anonymous

    The powerful Ampatuan has been ruling their territory for more than 50 years. They have seen the rise and fall of many presidents. Many presidents in one way or another have “utang ng loob” sa kanila. Whether the current government or judicial system is wholeheartedly in perusing the justice for the 57 murdered victims or not, the OUTCRY of All Filipino for justice should not be ignored or delayed.  We cannot let this kind of inhuman creatures live in this world because we will not be able to know how many more people or family will suffer in their hands.

  • Anonymous

    Justice will come.. maybe not in this life, but in His sovereignty, God will make sure that justice is done.

  • Anonymous

    as long as all of the accused stay in jail for 55,000 years, that’s good.

  • http://twitter.com/beachberm Fifi

    …..for as long as they will not be allowed to post bail, 55,000 years in prison seems fair enough. 

  • Anonymous

    This is a huge challenge to the judiciary – the speedy resolution of this particular case as well as the other cases under trial. They should at least follow the speed at which the American courts work in resolving cases especially the prominent ones that we have a chance to read and follow in papers and in the internet
    Our judges should know when the defense are just resorting to what can be considered as simply ‘delaying tactic’.  We dont want this Ampatuan case to drag on for years such that Atty Roque and Fortun are already old and frayed, have hearing difficulties, poor eyesights, fighting alzeimers, and wearing ‘pampers’ or their one-year old children are already themselves lawyers.

  • Anonymous

    DIBA merong Special Court na?

    Huwag nang bigyan ng ibang trabaho ang assigned judge sa Special Court so that she could devote her time and the court’s resources to this case.

    Provide all the necessary support for the designated—manpower, funds, mobility, protection and security to her and to her staff.

    Dapat ang mga legal counsel ng mga akusado, hindi na manghingi pa ng mga postponement ng trials. Tapusin na. Let the defense lawyers uphold the majesty of the law and the swift execution of justice.

  • Anonymous

    I do liked your description of the situation and I was admonishing all others to read you post before they submit idiotic comments. It is not you that I associate the word “idiotic”, far from it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/t2Ekim Mike Sayat

    This case will  take forever and never.Look what’s happening to the Dacer-Corbito case.Malamang kalabasan nito nag suicide lahat ang mga pinatay or sila mismo nagpatayan.

  • Anonymous

    SA AKIN LANG PO KUNG MAGAGAWAN NG PARAAN AY MA GARNISH NA MUNA ANG MGA PROPERTIES NG MGA AMPATUAN  AT MA I AWARD NA SA MGA FAMILIES NG KANILANG BIKTIMA – KAHIT NA TUMAGAL MAN NG LIBONG TAON ANG PAGDINIG SA KASO KAHIT NA PAPAANO AY NAIBSAN MAN LANG KAHIT NA KAUNTI ANG PAGHIHINAGPIS NILA – AT DUN NAMAN PO SA MGA ARMADONG SAMAHAN NA NAGPAPAKILALANG TAGAPAGTANGOL NG NAAAPI ITO PO ANG INYONG PAGKAKATAON NA PATUNAYAN ANG INYONG PINGSASABI – PAKIPATAY NA PO NINYO YUNG IBANG AKUSADO MAGTIRA NA LANG PO KAYO NG ILAN PARA MAPABILIS ANG PAGLILITIS NG KASO . . .

    SALAMAT PO.



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