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ALL-OUT WAR VS ABUS President Aquino addresses a national television audience from Malacañang on Monday saying he has ordered an intensified military operation against Abu Sayyaf bandits, not Moro Islamic Liberation Front rebels. JOAN BONDOC

President Benigno Aquino III on Monday declared not an all-out war but “all-out justice” for 19 soldiers massacred last week on Basilan.

The President also announced that his administration would continue with its peace negotiations with the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), which was set to begin in Malaysia next month.

“We will try to push the negotiations forward to address the roots of the conflict,” he said.

Reading a prepared statement before a national television audience, Mr. Aquino stressed that the target of an “intensified” military operation he had ordered were members of the Abu Sayyaf, not the MILF.

The President said the government had asked for help and was now getting it from the MILF in its bid to arrest the 10 Abu Sayyaf bandits responsible for the killings and now located and “contained” in Payao, Zamboanga Sibugay.

“The mailed fist of the State will be brought to bear upon them so that justice may be served. There is no question the State will find them; the only remaining question is when,” he said.

Mr. Aquino rejected calls for the government to wage an all-out war against the MILF, which had earlier admitted that its men were responsible for the massacre of the 19 Special Forces troops on October 18 in Al-Barka, Basilan.

“We will not pursue all-out war; we will instead pursue all-out justice. All-out war is indiscriminate and borne out of danger. All-out justice is sober and fair; it is based on the rule of law, and leads to lasting peace,” the President said.

Sulayman, Aswani

He said his decisions on the worst losses the military suffered in years “cannot be borne out of ignorance … but have to be based on facts.”

Explaining his order for intensified operations,  Mr. Aquino said later in news conference that the government was after 10 members of the Abu Sayyaf bandits led by its leader Ibrahim Malat Sulayman and Dan Aswani.

He identified Sulayman as a “notorious criminal wanted for nine counts of murder” while Aswani was an escaped fugitive wanted for the beheading last year of Marine soldiers in Basilan.

The President said this bandit group had been located in Payao, Zamboanga Sibugay, and “in response to the local government unit’s appeal to free them from criminal activities of these individuals, they are now contained—about 150 or so of them—in that area.”

“We’re trying to isolate them from even the others who joined them. But even if that’s not the case and the negotiations for them to leave the area do not happen, we still have to enforce the law and go after the 10. And those who help the 10, they will be guilty of abetting known criminals,” he said.

Mr. Aquino noted that the weekend attacks against the police and military in Zamboanga Sibugay “were diversionary to dilute our efforts at arresting those people who are isolated in Payao.”

He also said that the information he got on the attack that killed five rubber plantation workers “might be related to extortion activities.”

MILF claims

Told that the MILF had stated in its website that the rebel group was responsible for attacking the 19 soldiers in Basilan, the President said he did not view the MILF website as he made clear that there were specific arrest warrants for the 10 Abu Sayyaf bandits.

Asked whether the government would engage the MILF should it coddle the criminals, he said: “We are targeting certain people, those who will block our forces in pursuit of legitimate operations cannot be differentiated from those we are after.”

“We send the message to the MILF that we are not out to get them but if some of their members participate, there is no exemption,” he said.

Mr. Aquino disclosed that actually the MILF was now helping the government in going after the Abu Sayyaf bandits.

“There are ongoing efforts to tell them precisely what our intentions are so there will be no missteps, no doubts—that’s what we’re trying to avoid,” he said.

Asked what the MILF response was, the President said: “I cannot reveal all this to you but there is cooperation already in terms of certain personalities. They will not be a problem in effecting the arrest of the people in the Order of Battle.”

The President said that the military would make sure civilians would be safe from the ongoing operations.

“While it is tempting for the government to join the chorus in calling for blood, we believe that such a course of action is not appropriate at this point. We are not interested in knee-jerk actions that will jeopardize our efforts to address the roots of conflict in the region,” he said.


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  • Anonymous

    all-out justice? parang may subtext!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U4O52EPL5SWUROGUCRW7QJGUZQ Wilson

    All out Justice? Mr. President you only looked at 2LT. JD Khe’s casket for just 67 seconds without realizing that he spend 9 hours fighting for his country! How long are we going to wait for Justice  for my friend JD and his fallen comrades ? baka naman maging forgotten heroes ang labas nila nyan?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RDGSX2X4U55HS6NNYQHMNB7RCQ papaboar75

    Mr. President, the root cause is simply;  The MILF are just a bunch of thugs who cannot make an honest living.  They just rob, kidnap and harrass people who are trying to make a living.

    I don’t understand the hesitation in disarming them or better yet permanent deletion?  How many more soldiers do you need to see perish before you can decide? Show some balls please…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5PGZA6WQW46QED7HFNWEDJ5EC4 Arnel

    palamigin muna lahat ng ulo.,,so that we can think properly to make better decisions..to those with “an eye for an eye mentality” think first..we are lucky to have a president na maka-ina..soft hearted..di mainit ulo or basagulero..

    if you were relatives or friends of the dead soldiers..my sympathy with you..thats the risk of being a soldier to die anytime defending our country..

    on the other hand if our wish was MAKAGANTI..thats a selfish motive…

    how many more widows, orphans= would anyone of u like to see..
    muslims are also human beings like us christians who most of us wants to see peace in mindanao..
    we breath the same air, we eat food to live, we drink water from the same source..we share the same land and history..we may have different religion but we believe in the same god with just different name.. 

    if muslims rebels, bandits, mnlf, abusayaff. milf, or npa.. started killing innocents civilians wether muslim, christians or others..then i will agree we have to pursue to eradicate these people with impunity..through our armed forces..

    but vigilante justice..NO WAY..our soldier, policemen, even security guards are always ready to die.. because thats a part of their..job..

    if you are a tricycle driver, teacher, janitor, office clerk or market vendor,,,you are not ready to die because of your job description have very small risk of dying.

    think again properly before you criticize our president’s decision on this delicate issue eventhough it was unpopular..

  • Anonymous

    DECLARE ALL OUT WAR AGAINST THE TRAITOR MILF…

  • Dennis Dy

    The only way to get rid of M.I.s, M.N.s and NPAs is to improve the quality of life of Filipinos.  Get rid of poverty, make jobs available to them and iradicate illiteracy through education. I am sure the President is aware of this that is why he was hesitant to bomb the MILF.  It’s useless. They will just multiply by recruiting more people to fight the government.

    The best way to protect our troops is to get rid of corruption so our taxes can go to the modernization of the AFP. The recent PAF bombing using outdated planes and bombs probably killed mosquitoes but not MI members.

    Dapat gawin batallion commander dyan sa Mindanao si Gen. Carlos Garcia.  Tingnan natin kung tumagal sya sa butas na combat boots, balang di pumuputok, at kamote na hapunan.

  • Anonymous

    Go PNoy! Whatever you do critics will be there.  God speed.

  • Anonymous

    PNOY is moving in the right track. Global eye is watching this matter. More power.

  • Anonymous

    anu raw? all-out-justice? magtigil ka nga Pnay!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

    indeed, the only thing that we will have from this guy is “all out justshit”

  • Anonymous

    our eyes are focus in your actions to pursue all out justice…we’ll see how the  MILF reacts when our soldiers “intrude” in their enclave… if there will ambush what will you do?…. Well…. let’s pursue all out justice still….#^&*&?Q!@$

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/TEJPIVCXMONPNBXNWRYVLWVYPE next timer

      D mo ba binasa ung order of battle?, no distinguishing between the abus and those that’ll help em, both will be killed. mabulaklak lang at indirect ang pagkakasabi. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Delfin-Dano/100000369657039 Delfin Dano

    Parang takot si P-Noy sa MILF , bakit Abu Sayyaf daw ang target ng military at police operation na iniutos niya? Inamin ng ng MILF na mga” sundalo” nito ang may kagagawan ng ambush sa Basilan na kung saan may 19 na sundalo ng Pilipinas ay namatay. Tama lang na habulin din ang mga elentong kriminal ng Abu pero para “linawin” sa isang pahayag ng Presidente na ibang grupo(hindi MILF)) ang target ng response action eh parang Karuwagan ito? The President seems to be afraid to cross the MILF.BAKIT?

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/TEJPIVCXMONPNBXNWRYVLWVYPE next timer

      Tanga ka lang kasi at hindi marunong umintindi! Hindi pwedeng sabihin directly na kasama sa i-aassault ang MILF kasi may international ramification un dahil sa peace talks, pero clear na kasama sa order of battle ang MILF

  • Anonymous

    nung naglunsad ng all out war si Erap laban sa MILF sa Mindanao medyo tumahimik na nun..kaso lang alam natin pinatalsik sya sa pwesto kaya  nung wala na si Erap nagkagulo uli..kaya siguro kung nasa pwesto pa sya baka tuluyan ng matahimik ang Mindanao ngayon dahil wala na yang mga MILF at ABU SAYAF na mga yan.

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/TEJPIVCXMONPNBXNWRYVLWVYPE next timer

      TANGA KA!!! kung natuloy pa ang termino ni erap, wala na tyo pinaguusapan pa ngaun, kasi wala ng pilipinas, nasira na din sa katangahan ng idol mong si Erap

  • Anonymous

    All out war will not solve the problem.

    Bomb the hideouts of the bandits but continue negotiation with milf.

    PNoy acted properly and did not succumb to emotional outburst. His emotional
    quotient is high which is a sign of maturity and true strength.

    The milf regained strength during 9 years of corrupt arroyo regime.

  • Anonymous

    you don’t see winners in war, only dead bodies.

    – drefaura “For every tree that disappears, a part of the Philippines goes with it”

  • Fred Santos

    Do you still believe what the MILF is telling you? First, it clearly shows that the so called leaders cannot control their people, second, how sure are you that the orders didn’t come from those leaders themselves?
    Third, hindi pa rin kayo nadadala sa katraiduran ng MILF? Iba ang sinasabi sa harapan kaysa sa talikuran.
    And when did this MILF fight face to face? They always attack at the least time you expect them, but when you started chasing them, they are cowering like rats. This has been going on ever since, they will always ask for peace after attacking and killing people. They knew that you are weak and vulnerable, that’s why they are taking advantage. Wake up and be a Man.

  • http://twitter.com/toothpastesales be honest

    Let me get this straight from what P-Noy said and did.
    10/19 - Early report was that Dan Asnawi being the 114 Base Commander of MILF and his group slaughtered 19 soldiers in Basilan when the soldiers were trying to serve a warrant of arrest.
    P-Noy said he will not ask MILF to turn over Asnawi.
    Milf admitted on its website that MILF was the one who was responsible for attacking the 19 soldiers.
    10/24 – AFP has demanded MILF to surrender 6 MILF commanders. Dan Asnawi was on the list.
    P-Noy on national tv said intensified operations against ASG led by Dan Aswani and Sulayman.

    So is Dan Asnawi and Dan Aswani the one and same person ?
    If yes he will be leader of ASG and 114 Base Commander of MILF.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

    I don´t see any big differences in Filipino minds between the lines “All out War and All out Justice”.Besides,this is very similar to a glass of water filled in half as we called it “Half full or Half empty”.If we capture the bandits alive,then that serves the purpose of All out Justice.BUT do we think using warplanes and guns a form of approaching justice? Or did Abu Sayaf Group understand the word justice by letting them captured?Remember,there are many ways to practice the word “Justice” but any casualties happen using guns will cause misconception leading to an extra judicial killings….”All out War” with the Bandits is the right term! A message easy to understand whether you are rich or poor,with or without knowledge!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5XCWZ5TPADBA7TVTGJEKUK26ZE Kamote Q

    natakot si Pnoy na ma-coup ng militar sa kanyang No all-out war policy kaya nagbago ang isip. nagpapalusot lang kaya na tinawag na “all-out justice”.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S2UQGGNN35EUOBNX4N5OBIBDUM Kromuel

      Indeed its a play of words, the initial stand of the government is to actually stay put and not pursue the ambush suspects since they are in the MILF camps. To save face because they already announced a no all-out war and disgust is mounting, they renamed it to “all-out justice” when all the people want is that from the start: justice to those who were murdered which happened to be MILF members and their protectors which is the MILF institution itself. 

  • Anonymous

    Aquino: All-out justice for 19 dead soldiers….

    What kind of justice, Mr. President? Paper Justice?
    By filing Murder, Homecide or  Massacre. Justice De Lima, please filethe corresponding complaint against these criminals.
    Or Killing Justice?
    As they say, Kill or be Killed or Killing is the answer to the Killers.

     

  • John

    thats the act of a good leader, hindi nagpapadala sa simboyo ng dmdamin, thinkingclear in he midst of  the odds. go on Pnoy, bring this land into peace! a word of warning; there should be limits to your tolerance. after that, we could say…boom..boom…boom!

  • Anonymous

    All-out justice for the 19 soldiers!  Fine, but what about the others –  will justice for them be all in?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OIIICCZXYTLGJYZIYLCVNIG6UM bernardo

    The MILF admitted to the massacre of our 19 brave soldiers in Al Barka Basilan, Pnoy said there will be an all out justice against the Perpetrators. Then, why are they Bombarding Payao,Zamboanga, when the MILF in Al Barka, Basilan admitted that they were the one who massacred our soldiers? Worst, P-noy  said the MILF is helping the govt to effect the arrest of people in Order of Battle!  Hindi ba ang MILF ang pumatay sa ating mga sundalo? Nabu-ang na!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4ACQOS5NB6IDSYP6OYN4JGCTIA King Arthur

    those who aspire for peace must be prepared to wage war. masyado lang kasing na-demonize ‘yung term na “all-out-war” at doon nalihis ang issue – nakatuon na ngayon ang focus sa magiging biktima kung magka-gyira, eh nakakalimutan ata natin na sa kasalukuyan marami nang mga biktima na ‘di pa nabibigyan ng hustisya: ang mga sundalong namatay at ang mga taong takot sa mga lugar na sakop ng mga bandidong ito. anong gagawin natin para sa kanila? at the very least, a sustained surgical strike must be waged against those responsible, regardless of their affiliation.  

    • Anonymous

      surgical strike would be more appropriate than an all-out war where even civilian population is not spared. air and ground military coordination is required for a precise strike, assisted by pre-strike intel ops to avoid collateral damage.

      how many sorties do you think are required to deliver a nice cut?

      –drefaura “you don’t see winners in war, only dead bodies”

  • Anonymous

    All out Justice! The sound is good to the ears. PNoy must be naive to expect the MILF would simply handover the wanted men. They’d simply say the lawless elements are no longer with us. They’re on their own, they have become a lost command like Commander Kato who the gov’t has been after too for the longest time.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7EEIAPAC6ANQJRMO5BRZTATQBA M.J.

    “All-out justice…” since when did we achieve justice? We cannot even find justice for those who were killed in the Maguindanao massacre, how much more for these 19 soldiers? Martin Luther King, Jr. was right when he said, “Law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress.” If Pnoy’s stand regarding this issue remains the same, then let’s all forget about progress and start counting more dead bodies of soldiers, if not civilians, in the days to come.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

    It´s not “ALL OUT JUSTICE” and even “ALL OUT WAR”…We must understand that Pnoy is in a state of “ALL OUT OF LOVE”,and that´s why he uses “AIR SUPPLY” (warplanes) to attack them!

  • Anonymous

    Mr. President, whatever phrase you use – “all-out war” or “all-out justice”, your people rather your bosses wanted peace and order.  And you can only attain that goal if you exert effort and force to drive those responsible not only for the 19 soldiers but also those who disturb the peace and order of the region.  Many foreign investors are reluctant to invest here because the Philippine government lead by its President PNOY cannot maintain a peaceful environment.  Please use the claws of your government!

    PEACE TALKS - what a waste of your time and resources!  The Philippine government has been doing these talks, yet it cannot achieve anything, but failed negotiations.  Mr. President, now is the time to make a stern decision about the peace and order in the south….better yet, in the whole archipelago.

  • Anonymous

    To be firm and immediately show outrage over the ambush killing of soldiers is the least people expect how a good strong leader would react but even this PNoy failed to show. It took him three days to decide how to react. To show national outr age does not mean we are for all out war! is it an act of war if we demand that the MILF is served notice to surrender their members who committed the ambush so they can face justice? The MILF claim the soldiers were within the MILF “area of temporary stay”, which the soldiers denied. They said they were four kilometers away from the MILF territory. Who should you believe?

  • saanino nino

    There are some things here I don’t understand due to my ignorance and the media’s failure to paint the entire picture:

    If the President says that their target is the Abu Sayyaf and not the MILF, why is the PAF having an air and ground assault against the MILF breakaway group?

    One answer is they are pursuing lawless elements and that if members of the MILF joins them “there is no exemption”. SO, they are not targetting the MILF but if they find that they are getting in the way of this “all-out justice” operations, they will be attacked.

    But didn’t the MILF already claimed responsibility for the deaths of those soldiers in Basilan? Therefore, the PAF is pursuing the correct target but why is the President making it appear like the attacks against rogue MILF members only incidental?

    Why is the MILF spokeperson condemning the “hard-headed” military for its air strike when Aquino says that there is cooperation between the MILF and the government in the pursuit against the criminals?
    Air strikes? 4,000 fleeing their homes? Civilians at risk? Do these coincide with “all-out justice”? What is this? A really confusing word play at the expense of more than a thousand lives?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZEEYFHKU3Z742OV2FOGL72P7ZU Loggnat

    To accomplish this mission, the government must go after and capture dead or alive 10 members of the Abu Sayyaf bandits led by its leader Ibrahim Malat Sulayman and Dan Aswani. If this mission is a success, it will provide a semblance of justice to the fallen soldiers. Another goal as important as the one above, is to display and remind the MILF, NPA, and other terrorist group who had been testing presidents resolve and reaction under pressure that he  (Pnoy) is cool, calm and collected under pressure. And also, he still holds the biggest stick in the country and he is ready and willing to wield this stick and strike at the enemies of the country internal and/or external.

  • Anonymous

    He just want his own definition of the conflict in Mindanao. He call his All Out Justice instead of All Out War. Hope that it wont be Just-Ti-is for the soldiers fighting the rebels and the people enduring and suffering  because of the never ending conflict.However, the Pnoy approach may not be to the liking of the soldiers after they were blame instead of being defended by its commander in chief. The government has no plan for the military except to buy a refurbish old American ship which in no way scare the Chinese. The order to release the 10 billion war chest shows that dapat malagas ang AFP bago ito ma release. The military hierarchy and its commander in chief, don’t really have a blue print on Mindanao conflict. Negotiations is just a moro-moro and the MILF is now a force to recon with while the Pnoy lead admin is sleeping with the enemies. Mindanao under an Islamic State, not a farfetched the way our leaders inability to once and for all resolved this decade issue. Bring it on, ayaw natin nang gulo at gyera but do we still believe that this terrorist are sincere, you will know one when you see one of this rebels. Pnoy doesn’t see eye to eye with them, wake up..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FVBPRR4NKZ2DFURBCD5I4Q5GN4 Leg

    Nalilito na yata mga advisers ni El Presidente….sabi ng MILF sila ang pumatay sa 19 sundalo pati na yong mga bihag na pinatay nila…tapos ibang grupo (tiwalag na MILF daw at Abu) ang target nila ngayon sa all-out-justice…..bakit ganon??   parang..parang…ALL-OUT–CHIIIKKKAAA!…panlilinlang?

    hmmm..ano kaya ang pinoprotektahan ng El Presidente…may konkesyon kaya to sa “date” nila sa Japan? …ano kaya kasunduan nila doon??

  • Anonymous

    ll out war will not solve the problem.

    Bomb the hideouts of the bandits but continue negotiation with milf.

    PNoy acted properly and did not succumb to emotional outburst. His emotional
    quotient is high which is a sign of maturity and true strength.

    The milf regained strength during 9 years of corrupt arroyo regime.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7EEIAPAC6ANQJRMO5BRZTATQBA M.J.

      The all-out war MAY NOT solve the problem, but it will DEFINITELY send a strong message that the government will not just sit, watch and do nothing while these lawless element spread havoc in Mindanao.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FVBPRR4NKZ2DFURBCD5I4Q5GN4 Leg

    may ALL-OUT-JUSTICE na ba sa Hacienda Luisita???  …sana meron din, bago magPasko.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_63Z7GKXCG7BOORMSFADOHLWNNY Cel

      kaya nga po. kung ano ano na lang buzzwords ang ipinuputak ni kumander mischief. lahat naman bumabalik sa kanya ng mas matindi pa. nagka leche leche na tuloy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FVBPRR4NKZ2DFURBCD5I4Q5GN4 Leg

    Title ng article: “Aquino: All-out justice for 19 dead soldiers”

    Ang pumatay sa 19 sundalo –> MILF (claimed)
    Ang ng-ambush lately          –>  MILF (claimed)
    Ang umukupa ng 2 paaralan –> MILF (claimed)
    All-out-justice target              –> Abu Sayyaf
    Ang intesified military ops target –> Abu Sayyaf
    PNoy asked help from MILF to capture –> Abu Sayyaf
    Ang huhuli sa MILF –> ???

    …bat ganon?  …something FISHY FISHY…!   …there’s something going on sa “date” sa Japan.

    ..parang niloloko lang mga Pilipino anoh?
    ..parang nililinlang lang ang ga namatayan anoh?

    ipaliwanag nyo nga!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TBWLRFPNVF2CCT3BBGN4ZDWB5I Gerardo

    Let us stop all these double talk of “No all out war but only all out Justice”. Let us call the MILF and ask them squarely: Do you want peace? Then surrender these criminals in 7 days and if not then we will go after all your camps, destroy them and cancel the ceasefire. Then we will restore the death penalty and have a special court to try and finish the trial in one month and if they are found guilty we will fry them in the electric chair. This approach will discipline them and all the criminal elements like the drug dealers and kidnappers.

  • Anonymous

    Was the President made aware in his daily brief that the AFP would pursue lawless elements in Basilan on the 18th of October? If he knew of it beforehand, he seemed to be oblivious of its possible repercussions. In fact, the initial reaction to “stand down” indicated that he neither knew of such military operation nor realized its ramifications.

    It took him and his close advisers several days to put their act together and finally announce that a surgical strike against lawless elements is arguably not violative of the ceasefire agreement. A timely “reinforcement” and immediate “hot pursuit” could not have been less of “surgical strikes” if these were in place before the AFP went out on 18 October 2011 into gray territories.

    Sure, calls for an all-out-war might be knee-jerk reactions of people who have no grasp of relevant facts on the ground. What can we expect? These ignorant people, in the first place, are not in the position to know. But it’s altogether a different story when it is the Government making knee-jerk statements pregnant of admissions that they were caught flat-footed.

    The Government should be proactive. It cannot afford to muse over worthless ideals of peace and fail in tactical details.

    In any event, the President may yet regain lost grounds if he gets at least one of the culprits either dead or alive. I must say, however, that it is truly worrisome that the President keeps on showing the same lapses as first indicated in the Quirino hostage taking: lack of prompt and decisive action.

    • Anonymous

      Agree!  Because we have a prexy who is no brainer!

  • Anonymous

    isa lang mahihiling ko… former Pres. Joseph Estrada should give his “BALLS” to Pres. PNoy for the sake of having one yun lang…

  • Anonymous

    Nagiging malala na ang patayan na ‘to. Bigyan niyo nga ng liwanag ng kaisipan si Pres. Tara’t manalig.

  • Jorrel Quilalang

    Oh man…how can we negotiate with the MILF when they cannot even control their subordinates O__0

  • Anonymous

    “We have to think when we are calm so that we can lay down our plans because we can’t be reckless” – USec Valte quoting the President last 22 October 2011.

    In short, the President had no plans how to react to the 19 October killings as of 22 October 2011, especially that the incident in question was pronounced to be a legitimate operation of the AFP indicating that it was planned beforehand. And yet, there were no acceptable reinforcements and hot pursuit operations right at the moment of need.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

    President Aquino must give a “Time frame” with this mission about “All out Justice” to MILF! Let me say 48hrs for them to hand over those wanted criminals.This will ensure sincerity and trust if MILF are really cooperative with the Government.Sending them message like bombs will produce more casualties.And even a close encounter fight in one place.

  • Anonymous

    ll out war will not solve the problem.

    Bomb the hideouts of the bandits but continue negotiation with milf.

    PNoy acted properly and did not succumb to emotional outburst. His emotional
    quotient is high which is a sign of maturity and true strength.

    The milf regained strength during 9 years of corrupt arroyo regime.

    • Anonymous

      If air support by way of reinforcement and hot pursuit were done on that fateful day of 19 October 2011, would it be less acceptable to the ceasefire agreement than being done five (5) days after the incident in question?

      Of course, Pnoy had no emotional outburst. He looked like he was at a loss of what’s happening on the ground.

      I agree, however, that we should negotiate for peace, but negotiate from a position of deliberate strength and not out of knee-jerk reactions.

      As to Arroyo, I bet you would also claim that it was GMA who shot Jose Rizal at Luneta.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t remember MILF gaining strength during GMAs terms and on the contrary, no killings done on our soldiers day after day!  But, under Pnoy, palibhasa “weakling” nga ayon kay Tulfo or walang bayag, ay hahayaan na lang na ganon – patayin ang ating mga sundalo?  grrrrrrrr! 

      Impeach Pnoy now NA!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H6DOQ2XTESCE4IABT3LPXXQ2RA Bong

        right… no gaining of strength during GMAs ‘casue she’s one of them… they’re killing our soldiers ’cause their loyal supporter,GMA, is on hotwater… a president who advocate peace and justice is a more nature and civilized one… a person who go against this president and trying to proliferate impeachment complaint is nothing but a “weakling” and a person ‘walang bayag’…

      • Anonymous

        Di ako may sabi noon kundi si Tulfo har har har… nakakahawa talaga tong si Pnoy pati mga supot ers nya ay napipikon har har har har!  Talaga talaga mga pikon..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MJNTX7T6WXPHBUXJ3COQ4V6BAE Marlyn De vera

    One week after the murder of 19 + soldiers and policemen, the President has come out of a decision of “ALL OUT JUSTICE”. But I don’t see any difference, how can we achieve Justice when the law enforcement agency who will be tasked to arrest the killers cannot enter the so called ” MILF TERRITORY”? For me, the best move still is to suspend the peace talks, give a deadline to MILF to surrender the perpetrators of this treachery and if they don’t, we will give war to MILF in Basilan. Do not give “TERRITORY” to any armed group, only the AFP, PNP and other law enforcement agency are the lawful armed forces in the Philippines. For strict implementation…that of course if I am PNoy.

  • Amiel Lopez

    All out war ang MILF against the AFP and PNP hmmmm well I guess more blood has to be spilled before we learn…  

  • Anonymous

    All out justice or All out war – same food but different plate. Another euphemism by his speech writers

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4M77BVMNL7QPLQBYKGUSOK5PLM Xwcd Cxw

    aerial bombings, really? baka for show lang yan at wala naman talaga kayong binobomba. kumbaga, to appease the public, especially the military lang yan.

    until we see dead or arrested MILF, only then we will believe Pnoy’s sincerity for this all-out justice or whatever he calls his operations.

  • Anonymous

    Good move to pursue these bandits.

    However I am wondering what is there to negotiate with MILF? MILF is breakaway group from MNLF (MNLF founded by Nur Misuari). MNLF joined the government after they agreed to have semi-autonomous regions in Mindanao and the with the Tripoli agreement implemented. But MILF, the breakaway group, dont want this. They want an independent state and they have a history of killing civilians and bombings- they are a terrorist group tied to JI.  In theory, what they want cannot be given.

    Why allow them to exist?

  • Anonymous

    “All-out justice … leads to lasting peace.” is actually just war. My God, another holocaust! Let’s learn history, if not our own, the history of our neighboring countries. Sa panahon pa yan ni Moses…

  • Anonymous

    Lies after another lies. Nasa breeding talaga.

  • Anonymous

    “all out justice” mo mukha mo, ulo mong panot birdie mong supot, mabuti pa angry birds marunong magalit marunong lumaban, yung bird ni panot supot na ayaw pa ma angry.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jose-Hernani-Parco/100000334088180 Jose Hernani Parco

    from the reference books; SunTzu, The Art of Warfare. ancient Chinese military general, strategist and philosopher. the book is a required reading for all CIA officers. recommended reading for U.S. Military Intelligence.
    Napoleon , studied his strategy but completely disregard the central principles and was largely credited for his eventual defeat.
    Admiral of the fleet, Togo
    Mao Zedong partially credited his victory over Chang Kai-shek to the Art of War.
    Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap over the Americans. Ho Chi Minh had it translated for his officers to study.
    and Gen. Norman Schwarzskopf and Colin Powell practiced Sun Tzu’s principles of deception in attacking the enemies weakness! ( during the Desert Storm)
    now then and what did our great leader have been doing lately?! but then again why should he bother with  what history teaches, when he just wants to be merely “cute”!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GCHP76DTN2D74HXR2GXAJ5OAOI Redmay First

    Isn’t it humiliating for the military to seek permission first from MILF before they could enter the camp in Albarka Basilan to get Aswani? One has to be gullible to believe that MILF will surrender Aswani. Most puzzling statement so far is that Noy doesn’t believe those who killed the 19 soldiers are MILF. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IVSSTQU7F3BITPKFTPVHNTCVK4 agent_888

    What justice Pnoy…hindi nga matapos ang kaso ng mga Ampatuan na nasa kamay na ng gobyerno…eto pa kayang mga rebeldeng MILF na at large pa sa masukal na kagubatan sa Basilan…otot nimo Noynoy…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QXRY5FFJHVBW2THD226CSOAXVA JanB

    Halooo, Sa lahat ba naman na kailangan mag mediate sa Peace Talk ay ito pang MALAYSIA… Tingnan nyo sa decada dumaan..Everytime mag pick-up ang economy ng Pinas o di kaya Bangkok, ay agad ito magkaroon ng Gulo (giyera, bombing)…Bakit? Dahil ang Makinabang sa Foreign Investor pag ang dalawang Bansa na ito ay Magulo ay and MALAYSIA. Investor they don’t go to Hongkong, Singapore or Indonesia…Just read the old news and see the patern it is there!!! MALAYSIA won’t allow a united and improving Mindanao for it will threaten to claim back SABAH…Sino kaya ang nag finance ng MILF, sino ba ang nasa likod mismo ng Mindanao as we call it Back-Door? Yon ang source. Any insurgence will not survive without financial backing…Eh saan dumaan alangan naman sa harapan na pinto…E di sa likuran na pinto!!!

  • Anonymous

    Easy to make comments and draw our own conclussion when we ourselves cannot be responsible once things gets out of hand.

    Waging war is not something you can reset or reboot or gain multiple lives like what most popular video games do, the war these people is talking about are real and people’s lives are at stake. Many civilians will be displaced and millions of pesos is needed to sustain or support the war.  

    The 9-11 attacks in USA united the Americans to engage in a war with Al-Qaeda but as years went by, it became the most unpopular decision and it has caused the country billions of dollars, including thousands of dead US marines.

    Let us not be hasty and start name calling. It is really easy to do that since we will not be responsible once things gets out of hand.  And those who made the most ludicrous comments here are the ones we should not listen; more so, entrust the future of this country.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QXRY5FFJHVBW2THD226CSOAXVA JanB

    Read the History of Singapore and Malaysia…Malaysia learned alot from it from Singapore strategy…and they are just following the footstep as Investor will not come to a small country like Singapore as it is also expensive…Kaya MALAYSIA will do everything to mingle with the PEACE TALK so they have the upperhand to control it not to work. A peaceful and progressive MINDANAO means a lot of trouble to MALAYSIA…Same is true with Thailand…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QXRY5FFJHVBW2THD226CSOAXVA JanB

    P-NOY’s move to strengthen the NAVY and COAST GUARD hits two birds. Plugging the leak at the backdoor where all sources get through to finance the insurgence and increase the presence at the Philipppine west sea. P_Noy should continue to purchase Helicopter Gunship to furhter re-inforce the Phlippine Law at the backdoor and severly cut all those links specially now that Libya has new leader and Moror rebel lost its number one supporter and financier….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OAFZIN56TAAM73TEKNPNEBQV3U AdrianD

    if only the intelligence fund were used as purposely intended this matter would have not gone this far, Im sure the Generals and Politicos has something peculiar, or ulterior motives why this size of rebellion remained a problem for the country.

    go on with the peace process, find a resolution with the MILF once and for all.  AND if any group arises after that agreement the government should consider them as CRIMINALS AND hunt them down like bandits!
     

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

    The strategy is simple,Philippine intelligence must work with US intelligence asking them to use a satellite image to detect suspected areas of ASF or MILF.Their satelite can go down much lower than as we saw in Google Earth.This is how they made it to capture Osama Bin Laden.Thru Satelites,you can take photos,study that areas.Then it´s time to mobilize our forces.Army,Navy,Coast Guard,Air Force and PNP.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/S42XIXNLXWDSOTMCWNUB6CRGQU DoDong

    inde ko alam kung nag igno-ignorante lang si PENOY .. pero clinaim na nga ng MILF na sila ung tumambang and yet sa MILF pa sya humihingi ng tulong .. sabhin na natin na ibnag MILF yan … tingin nyo ba talgang ingunguso ng mga kausap na muslim ung kapwa nila muslim …

  • Anonymous

    Do you know the root of conflict in that area in Mindanao?

    The MILF just wanted to have an independent state. They want to control that area so that they can directly negotiate with other countries to exploit the minerals and oil in that area.

    The government of other nations would not negotiate with Philippine government because the Filipino politicians are not trustworthy. The Filipino politicians don’t respect contracts and agreements. They better deal with the MILF who have never experience colonization.

  • Anonymous

    All out war will not solve the problem. Even FVR a former general do not agree on all out war. PNoy is definitely right. 40 years of war did not do any good.

    Bomb the hideouts of the bandits but continue negotiation with milf.

    PNoy acted properly and did not succumb to emotional outburst. His emotional
    quotient is high which is a sign of maturity and true strength.

    The milf regained strength during 9 years of corrupt arroyo regime.

    • Anonymous

      still blame arroyo?  get real….you might blame arroyo also for the permanent smirk pnoy is wearing

      • http://twitter.com/SabiNiStephanie Stephanie Salazar

        Of course it’s GMA’s fault. Upuan ba naman at ilegitimize na naman ang organisasyong yan matapos giyerahin ng nakaraang presidente!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U6MHKJ2FXAMFW3T2HXQLTCCVIQ Emilio

    “The mailed fist of the State will be brought to bear upon them so that justice may be served”. The government is now after the 10 Abu Sayyaf bandits responsible for the killings. This is Pnoy speaking, promising ”all-out” justice, come’on PNoy you’re so out of reality, so pathetic, so disgusting. You’re words of lies is so insulting. The AFP is not brain drained like you. They don’t lost 19 soldiers fighting your own brand of 10 bandits. They lost lives because of treachery that you yourself condone, they lost lives because those moro’s or better yet “morons” sees the AFP operation as an intrusion in their territory. 

    Order your soldiers to go after the 10 bandits, chances are, that 10 bandits you talk about will claim again the lives of your soldiers, worst not only 19 but even more. A battle is lost only because of an incompetent and ignorant Commander, the commander so lacking of resolve to do what is right. You are the Commander in Chief,.. that should be a “no brainer” to you.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4QAIR53YIPJLMPSQJZTOJIGBVI Jaz

    President Benigno Aquino III on Monday declared not an all-out war but
    “all-out justice” for 19 soldiers massacred last week on Basilan –
             Mr. President tanong lang po: Kung ang ultimate solution po ba para makamit yung “all-out justice” ay “all-out war,” gagawin nyo po ba?

  • Anonymous

    I support our government in their decision to pursue and continue to  negotiate for a long lasting peace in Mindanao.

    I also support their military operations to go after bandits and lawless elements sowing fear and criminal activities against legitimate citizens, civilians and military.

    I also salute our brave and gallant front line soldiers who gave their lives serving our country and protecting our citizens.

    But I take exceptions to a few leaders in our AFP who do great injustice by making irresponsible personal statements to the media that contribute to division within the military rather than showing true professionalism expected of officers. With what was shown by those who perished recently, our front line soldiers have shown great courage, great dedication, and very high morale compared to their chair commanders who failed in ensuring good planning before sending soldiers on a mission with minimum casualties. We are challenging the AFP leadership to now show professionalism in leading our gallant and great soldiers.

    • Anonymous

      Like asking the Commander in Chief to support his soldiers and not the MILF rebels.

  • Anonymous

    Di ba Dan Aswani is a vice-commander of the 114th base command of the MILF in Al – Barka?  How could the government then purse Abu Sayaf bandits without going after the MILF too? If you will ask those in the know, there is really no significant difference between the MILF and the Abu Sayaf. They coddle and support one another. So why not end this charade?

  • shane oy

    let’s call a spade a spade. Dami pang arte.

  • Anonymous

    Just do what has to be done, be decisive and never let up on this drive to finally end once and for all these wanton killings and atrocities!

  • Anonymous

    this noynoy know that he can be impeach if he didn’t run after the killers of the 19 doldiers killed, becuase under the oath when he took his presidency he swore to give justice to every man and woman” when he came to know that he can be impeach, he did  a 180 degrees turnaround, you can really say that noynoy will open his mouth and start shooting from the hips

  • http://twitter.com/SabiNiStephanie Stephanie Salazar

    All-out-war / all-out-justice / Abu Sayaf / MILF, all a play of words which should’ve stopped at wang-wang. Don’t push it!

  • Anonymous

    I am not in favor of this Muslim group to be consulted first before waging to capture lawless element in Mindanao.Of what I understand they are becoming powerful. You know they have their own soldier w/ untouchable base of operation. The government should not permit this to happen.

  • Anonymous

    Would the air strikes yesterday, 25 October 2011, be less of “surgical strikes” or be more violative of the ceasefire agreement if these were deployed as “reinforcements” and “hot pursuit operations” last 19 October 2011?

    “We have to think when we are calm so that we can lay down our plans because we can’t be reckless” – USec Valte quoting the President last 22 October 2011. Isn’t that an admission that as of 22 October 2011 the President had no plans on how to react to the 19 October 2011 incident?

    Whether you are for “all-out-war” or “all-out-justice’, the answers to the aforesaid questions are truly discomforting.

    Well, someone did say, the answers do not matter anymore. The helicopters and planes, in the first place, could not be deployed on 19 October 2011 for lack of gasoline because someone in DBM thought it to be a source of corruption. Oops, my bad.

  • Anonymous

    All out justice? Can a policeman will knock on the Abu Sayaf’s camp with heavily armed terrorists and say “You are under arrest” ? stupid ka talaga PNOY wala kang common sense! mag siesta ka muna baka kulang ka sa tulog!

  • Sonny Whirly

    All Out Justice must be done in accordance with the law of the Philippines.  There must be no violations of peace talks if and when the Philippine government  military soldiers enter into the “REBEL” territory of MILF.  In the first place,  there should be no territory for the rebels as the entire Philippines must be controlled by the legitimate government of the Philippines.  The 19 soldiers were killed because according to the MILF,  they entered into MILF territory without coordinating with them.  Why should the Philippine government military coordinate with the MILF in pursuit of the criminals who happens to be in the “REBEL” TERRITORY?  Get the criminals at all cost regardless if it is the “REBEL” territory.  Anyone who will block the military moves of the Philippine government military soldiers, must be terminated at all cost.

  • Anonymous

    All out justice? Can a policeman will knock on the Abu Sayaf’s camp with
    heavily armed terrorists and say “You are under arrest” ? stupid ka talaga PNOY wala kang common sense! mag siesta ka muna baka kulang ka sa tulog!

  • kris makati

    boo! pagpatay nga sa ama mo di mo mahanapan ng justice, yung nangyayari pa kaya sa mindanao? puro ka dakdak panot ka!

  • Anonymous

    All out war will not solve the problem. Even FVR a former general do not
    agree on all out war. PNoy is definitely right. 40 years of war did not
    do any good.

    Bomb the hideouts of the bandits but continue negotiation with milf.

    PNoy acted properly and did not succumb to emotional outburst. His emotional
    quotient is high which is a sign of maturity and true strength.

    The milf regained strength during 9 years of corrupt arroyo regime.

    • Anonymous

      Si Arroyo na naman pala ang may kasalanan. OK na.

  • Anonymous

    All out justice? Can a policeman will knock on the Abu Sayaf’s camp with
    heavily armed terrorists and say “You are under arrest” ? stupid ka talaga PNOY wala kang common sense! mag siesta ka muna baka kulang ka sa tulog!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_75NKXEK63AWAXOYZKGI3FC3KHI Chu li

    Pnoy paano mo mahuli  yong mga MILF na pumatay sa mga sundalo e nasa maynila na ngayon nagpapahinga. pustahan tayo yong iba nasa Taguig na.

  • Anonymous

    All out justice? Can a policeman will knock on the Abu Sayaf’s camp with
    heavily armed terrorists and say “You are under arrest” ? stupid ka talaga PNOY wala kang common sense! mag siesta ka muna baka kulang ka sa tulog!

  • Anonymous

    @kulittwit

    Oo nga. Si GMA din bumaril kay Rizal sa Luneta, di ba?

  • Anonymous

    Pasensya na muna mga sundalong pilipino. Just tiis muna at may kasunduan yata sa Japan na huwag gagalawin ang MILF habang may ceasefire.

  • Lestat de Lioncourt

    I will make a bet, president term will be over and this culprit is still at large! Abu Sayaf and MILF are both terrorist bakit sa pinas lng ang meron ganyan sa ibang bansa wla naman ganyan!? a retard cant understand thath there are no peace talk on this case its like Bush former president of US having a peace talk with Osama Bin Laden!!! Not a chance!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QNLU7TV6IMDQ44UDLCQEUTFFNE Pizza Ria

    aha, ngayon ko lang nalaman na malumanay palang magdesisyon si noynoy panot.  hmmmmm.  takot ka lang talaga sa milf o baka naibenta na nitong presidenteng kamote na ito ang mindanao sa milf?

    malumanay daw, eh ba’t pinagpapatay mo ang ang trabahador sa hacienda luisita?

  • Anonymous

    Pnoy is to naive to accept that for the terrorist,  justice  is being served at the end of the barrel of a gun.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_N7SZOONKHALFMUL6K2DTZANJY4 khokko

    si noynoy ay DTNL!!!!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5QJUD47DAPM2Y5J3AEMCE2C624 John TWT

    With this development, we can see that the focus has now been on the president and not the military organization, whose generals are the prime reason why ground troops have been demoralized since time immemorial.

    It’s being made to look that the military is demoralized just because of the wimp in malacanang. It has been demoralized ever since their generals and their wives keep apportioning their loot at the expense of better equipment and ammo. It has been demoralized ever since it was SOP for aspiring officers to give grease money for promotions. It has been demoralized ever since their generals were being in cahoots with rebels and kidnappers over ransoms. It has been demoralized ever since their pay and benefits have not been given due accounting and improvement. It has been demoralized ever since their generals’ wives have been cornering all supply contracts in the military.

    With the kind of military intelligence that we have; with the substandard equipment issued to troops; with the connivance of military generals with rebel groups; with ugly politics within the organization, AN ALL OUT WAR WILL COST MORE AND MORE LIVES, MOSTLY YOUNG AND PROMISING SOLDIERS.

    Lesson: Vietnam; Iraq.

    If you have young sons and daughters who will be sent to the battlefield and sacrifice under a military organization so corrupt and inept; WOULD YOU BE DRUMBEATING FOR AN ALL OUT WAR?

  • Anonymous

    Madaling magsalita ng giyera. Pero, padala ang mga ito sa Mindanao at sila ang mauna sa giyera, tiyak, kung ano-ano ang idadahilan. 

    There is nothing glorious in war. There is no such thing as victory in a war. But one thing is certain, lives will be lost and it is a matter of who will it be. Will it be you?

    An all out war is madness. In fact, an all out war will just feed more war. Each party will want retribution, revenge. And this is where the cycle of violence starts and it will see no end. 

    19 soldiers killed, army will be sent in, some rebels die and those who live will avenge the death of their friends and so on and so forth. While soldiers and the Moros fight each others out, thousands of civilians will be displaced, properties will be destroyed, the government will spent billions of pesos to support the war, foreigners will leave, terror will be exported to Metro Manila, etc…. etc…. 

    War is dangerously ugly. Let us rethink what we are saying and be guided of what is for the greater good and not for what your emotions tells you.

  • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

    I applaud the president for taking the step towards a measured response and not taking the knee-jerk, all-out war scenario suggested by his detractors. I like the way that the situation was carefully analyzed rather than succumb to the heat of the moment, it makes me think that this administration is indeed using its brains.

  • Anonymous

    Would the air strikes yesterday, 24 October 2011, be less of “surgical strikes” or be more violative of the ceasefire agreement if these were deployed as “reinforcements” and “hot pursuit operations” last 19 October 2011?

    “We have to think when we are calm so that we can lay down our plans because we can’t be reckless” – USec Valte quoting the President last 22 October 2011. Isn’t that an admission that as of 22 October 2011 the President had no plans on how to react to the 19 October 2011 incident?

    Whether you are for “all-out-war” or for “all-out-justice’, the answers to the aforesaid questions are truly discomforting.

    Well, someone did say, the answers do not matter anymore. The helicopters and planes, in the first place, could not be deployed on 19 October 2011, precisely, for lack of gasoline because someone in DBM thought it to be a source of corruption. Oops, my bad.

    • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

      Anyone who lived in the neighborhood with, or met a relative of a general would know that the high brass of the military has indeed made business of the conflict in Mindanao. I cannot fault the DBM for scrutinizing and being prudent in the dispensation of people’s money. There is a force out there who are working overtime to derail Pnoy’s efforts in cleaning up the gov’t and making erring officials accountable. Whether that force has hooked up with the moros and hatched a plan is just a guess.

      • Anonymous

        if the president were really serious in exposing these erring officials it would’ve been done long time ago. its not that hard to find a corrupt official as they walk around town flaunting their riches without a conscience. GMA is not the only corrupt one yet he focuses on her family only. 

      • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

        I think the president is not only serious in exposing but also in prosecuting corrupt officials. The process will take time. Why? Because evidence have to be gathered, and everything has to be done according to our laws. This will kill two birds with one stone: 1. Punish corrupt gov’t officials 2. Fix and strengthen our damaged justice system.

      • Anonymous

        I guess its “evil force” out there that made Pnoy act with less dispatch in the Quirino hostage-taking on 23 August 2010 and the 19 October 2011 killings in Basilan. “External evil force” was responsible too for “impounding funds” and “underspending” while Government fees were “increased.”

        It should be anyone out there except Pnoy and his men of good intentions.

      • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

        Compared to the Arroyo regime that spent and borrowed money like there’s no tomorrow, I prefer the prudent, accountable and transparent way the Aquino gov’t is going about taxpayers’ money. Compared to GMA, all other presidents underspent. Kickback lang no Abalos sa ZTE would’ve been $200M! Imagine that? And that’s through a loan that all filipinos have to pay!

      • Anonymous

        @twitter-103248106:disqus

        The last time I checked neither Government funds were lost nor loans were incurred in the ZTE controversy.

        All other Presidents underspent? Are you sure about this?

        I totally agree with you about prudence, accountability, and transparency. However, Government underspending is altogether a different matter. Government is the biggest spender. If it does not spend, money in circulation would shrink. No money in circulation means no money for Pedro and no food for Juan. It might even lead to soldiers dying in combat for lack of logistics and ammunition.

      • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

        Sure, the ZTE was nicked in the bud. But what was a COMELEC official doing making deals in the first place? It seemed like payback = “kalakaran,” so if this happened in this particular instance, what about the other China deals? Where there’s smoke there’s fire ‘ika nga. The news reports have it that GMA borrowed more money than the previous 3 presidents combined.

        Anyway, we are out of topic. I think the solutions to our nation’s problems will not come from solutions that have been tried over and over again in the past but have failed.

  • Anonymous

    10 Abu Sayyaf bandits??? According to surviving soldiers, they were attacked by 200 + men. Ano ‘to, lokohan? Who’s telling the truth here…

    • Anonymous

      sabi kasi MILF hindi daw sila, at maniwala naman daw sa kanila ang taong bayan, so ayan naniwala na agad ni PNoy. If it were the Abu Sayaf, hindi man lang nagtaka si PNoy kung bakit nasa kampo ng MILF ang mga yan. Hindi malayo na nagiinuman pa yan paggabi.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_433AYTAQRGRQD6CNXQKWD5ZZHY Sword

    Thank you, Mr. President.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RYXLDTSWFUDN65TQRTFRN36JJM Michael

    Can anyone tell me how the heck do we pursue all-out justice when we don’t even show a bit of force? The image that comes to my mind is a policeman asking a wanted criminal very nicely to surrender and when the criminal says no the police says “oh that’s too bad” then walks away without attempting to get the guy using force. Does Pnoy intends to “persuade” them with words only? He must either naive or stupid or both.

    • Anonymous

      Have you just woke up? Get Agence France Presse release yesterday and then review this e-paper.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D5H6T2PPWX5BMWE22RHLQINPGM Mamacita

    nasubo na siya sa covert talks niya with these terrorists MILF, kaya butt-spanking lang ang solution niya! a numb president!

  • Anonymous

    where is the all-out-justice when these terrorists are allowed to hold high powered guns, are given their own territories to own (which we need permission to enter) and who are allowed to organize themselves in battalions just like the AFP? 

    he hands Mindanao on a silver platter to these killers, with a side of our country’s soldiers heads on it.

  • Anonymous

    I am also surprised with the speed in which he removed 2 AFP officials from their posts, considering he always remains silent when media turns its cameras to his fumblling appointees.

  • Anonymous

    “All out Justice.” Another wangwang-like term like zero coke and matuwid na daan. ano ba yung mga moro na yun na dapat maparusahan, parang mga kuto na puedeng isa-isang hanapin at tirisin para magawa ang all-out justice? mabuti pa humanda ang gobyerno at military natin at posibleng unahan tayo ng bomba ng mga ‘yan!

  • Jomar Bayani

    MANILA, Philippines – A breakdown in the chain of command, including the use of students of a scuba diving course in the combat operations, led to the fateful Basilan attacks last week that killed 19 soldiers, according to initial findings of the military reported to President Aquino last Friday. The military report, received and published by journalist Dana Batnag in her blog on Tuesday, said a slew of factors led to the attacks of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) against government troops in Al-Barka, Basilan last October 18.  The report said “the 4th [Special Forces Battalion Commander] initiated and launched the operation utilizing his own forces and the students of a military scuba diving course class 42-11 without the proper authorization from higher headquarters.” Given the limited capacity of the battalion forces, the report said the “4th Scout Ranger Battalion or the 32nd Infantry Battalion could have been used if operation is properly planned or coordinated.” The report also went on to say that the commander of the Special Operations Task Force (SOTF) Basilan was only informed of the operations a day before. The Special Forces Battalion is under the command of the SOTF. The commander had also informed the team of the enemy situation in the area as well as an “inconsistent assessment if the MILF presence” in the area. Nonetheless, combat operations still went through. In fact, even the Western Mindanao Command and the Unified Command was only told of the operations a few hours before the engagement. “The lack of proper coordination from higher headquarters delayed the use of air and artillery assets. Aside from the lack of jointness in the planning process, there was no participation of other arms services and the reserve force is very small composed of one SF team only,” the report said.  Batnag, in her blog, said: “The initial findings – THE INVESTIGATION IS STILL GOING ON – as reported in the command conference with the President and the AFP’s top brass last Friday, was that the soldiers who died shouldn’t have been sent there in the first place. They died because they were sent there unprepared and without planning, so much so that they were practically sent there to die.”………..(this validates my view that some sectors/ officers in the military are against final peace agreement and acts on their own with a conspiracy to burn flames of the war in mindanao)BOTH MILITARY AND MILF HAS LOST COMMANDS THATS WHY PEACE CANNOT BE ACHIEVED in MINDANAO!

    • Anonymous

      @Jomar Bayani

      Such details are more like it, Sir.

      The fact that there are rogue elements out to destabilize the peace efforts only serves to emphasize the need of the President to receive daily tactical information from the ground, in this case, in areas covered by the ceasefire agreement. I am not saying that the President should make all commands directly, but that he should know where his troops are and what they are doing at any given time so that if something goes wrong or if he wants to do something he will not be left muttering off-tangent ideals.

      I suspect ganyan din ang nangyari sa Quirino hostage taking. Pnoy was there, but he was not aware of tactical information, such as availability of an open shot on the hostage taker or where the snipers are located. If he had received information, it was not processed for judgment call but it must have come from anywhere and in a flurry.

      Anyway, you gave us good information. Tnx

  • Anonymous

    President Aquino has reiterated he will no declare an “all-out-war” versus the  MILF group.  It’s very clear. So critics of the administration should shut up.

  • Anonymous

    The logic is very simple. President Not has chosen
    not to wage an all-out offensive against MILF because he does not want to ruin
    the peace process. Ok lang siguro kung wala, kaso existing eh. Sayang naman.

  • Anonymous

    Nagka loko loko na. Hindi maintindihan. Mr. Aquino stressed that the target of an “intensified” military operation he had ordered were members of the Abu Sayyaf, not the MILF. Mr. Aquino rejected calls for the government to wage an all-out war against the MILF, which had earlier admitted that its men were responsible for the massacre of the 19 Special Forces troops on October 18 in Al-Barka, Basilan.
      ANO BA ITONG REPORT NA ITO, HINDI MAINTINDIHAN,  BAKIT ABU SAYAF ANG TINUTUGIS KUNG INAMIN NG MGA MILF NA SILA ANG RESPOSIBLE SA MGA 19 NA SUNDALO NA NAMATAY?

  • Anonymous

    ERAP did´´ ALL OUT WAR´´—-Did it WORKS?———NO
    AQUINOs NON agressive APPROACH is DEEP STRATEGIST, CLEVER,SOPHISTICATED and JUSTIFID (which regard to many fast solution to the complict)
    AQUINO Knows——-
    ALL OUT WAR will:
    —–Make MILF heroes—and will intensify support and therefore multiply–
    —–Millions will be DISPLACE on AQUINOs mindst and then BLAME the government—
    —–Cost a lot of MONEY—–and WILL BACKFIRE on Philippine IMAGE as a major emerging Economy in asia

    AQUINOs DESICION as Commander in chief ——–is JUSTIFIED—–like other politicians HE is NOT in PANIC —–His DECISION of SINCERITY will have a POSTIVE results–

  • Anonymous

    By Christine O. AvendañoPhilippine Daily Inquirer  LINAWIN MO NGA YANG REPORT MO KASI KUNG INAMIN NG MGA MILF NA SILA ANG RESPONSIBLE SA PAGKAMATAY NG 19 NA SUNDALO, BAKIT SA REPORT MO AY ANG PINAPA TUGIS NI PNOY AY MGA ABU SAYAF? TAMA BA YON?

  • Anonymous

    Okay I agreed, the government won the “all-out war” waged by President Estrada against the MILF in 2000. Pero nakamit ba ang peace na inaasam natin sa Mindanao. Di ba wala rin..

  • Anonymous

    I praise PNoy not to engage war with MILF. War would inflict tremendous losses in terms of lives and also mean the destruction of food resources, harvests and business and tourism opportunities.

  • Anonymous

    When Erap ordered an all-out war versus MILF in
    2000, they won and even captured the rebel groups Camp Abubukar. Pero ngayong
    may nangyari ba..di ba nagbalik pa rin..naghari pa rin ang grupo sa Mindanao…

  • Anonymous

    Rejecting the proposal to declare war against MILF doesn’t mean PNoy has no balls. He has assured naman an all out justice for the victims of these lawless elements. We should trust him.

  • Anonymous

    Whether “all-out-war” or “all-out-justice”, it does not matter as long as there is prompt and decisive action. The President should, if he must, eat intelligence information from the ground for breakfast.

    Who would want to quarrel against peace? But if you don’t have the eye for details, you will never achieve the lofty goals you have set for everyone.

    It was obvious that the initial apprehensions of the President were baseless because he later ordered air strikes and troop movements against the lawless elements, a thing that he could have immediately done on 18 October 2011 or at the height of the skirmish.

    • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

      You say the President hasn’t got the “eye for details” and make the assumption that the President’s initial apprehensions were baseless. Terrible inconsistency there – detailwise. What were the president’s apprehensions and why were they baseless??

      • Anonymous

        @twitter-103248106:disqus

        Would the air strikes yesterday, 24 October 2011, be less of “surgical strikes” or be more violative of the ceasefire agreement if these were deployed as “reinforcements” and “hot pursuit perations” last 18 October 2011?

        “We have to think when we are calm so that we can lay down our plans because we can’t be reckless” – USec Valte quoting the President last 22 October 2011. Isn’t that an admission that as of 22 October 2011 the President had no plans on how to react to the 18 October 2011 incident?

        Whether you are for “all-out-war” or for “all-out-justice’, the answers to the aforesaid questions are truly discomforting.

        Well, someone did say, the answers do not matter anymore. The helicopters and planes, in the first place, could not be deployed on 18 October 2011, precisely, for lack of gasoline because someone in DBM thought it to be a source of corruption. Oops, my bad.

  • Anonymous

    And so, Pnoy finally decided to act. Nineteen soldiers died at the hand of MILF rebels in Basilan, action => hot pursuit and bombardment of  10 Abu Sayyaf  in Payao, Sibugay Zamboanga. Am I missing something here, I’m confused!. MILF admitted they killed those 19 soldiers. Apparently Pnoy is not doing anything against the MILF rebels but condoning their heinous crimes. Just read through the news above and it says all what Pnoy is doing. This is how they try to manipulate by mixing all their stories together. Pnoy is making a fool of us. He befriended the MILF in Japan and more…….just figure!!!

  • Anonymous

    “Mr. Aquino rejected calls for the government to wage an all-out war against the MILF, which had earlier admitted that its men were responsible for the massacre of the 19 Special Forces troops on October 18 in Al-Barka, Basilan.”

    “Reading a prepared statement before a national television audience, Mr. Aquino stressed that the target of an “intensified” military operation he had ordered were members of the Abu Sayyaf, not the MILF.”

    “The President said the government had asked for help and was now getting it from the MILF in its bid to arrest the 10 Abu Sayyaf bandits responsible for the killings and now located and “contained” in Payao, Zamboanga Sibugay.”

    Ano ba ito? inamin ng MILF na sila ang pumatay sa 19 soldiers, and yet the focus of an intensified military operation are members of the Abu Sayaf group! At humihinigi pa ngayon ng tulong ang gobyerno sa MILF na umaming sila ang nag-massacre–para arestuhin ang 10 Abu Sayyaf responsible for the killings! Which killings!!??? Ang gulo, anak ng _(%$£”*&^!! Which is which, Ms. Avendano??

    Kung magulo ang mga pahayag ni pnoy, why can’t you, as a responsible reporter, help make everything  clear instead of making it all murky and confusing???

  • Anonymous

    Peace process is still the ultimate or solution to the so-called Mindanao problem. Let’s just support President Aquino stand.

  • Anonymous

    President Aquino is right. Nobody wins a war;
    everybody loses.

    • Anonymous

      no he is wrong, one will win the war but there would be casualties on both sides, and you NEVER NEVER NEGOTIATE IN A POSITION OF WEAKNESS, THE ARMED FORCES SHOULD BRING THE WAR in their turf, noynoy has been wrong the first day of conflict, unfortunately he is not a thinking president, sttttttttttuupppid iddddddddddddiooooooooot

    • Anonymous

      @Rowena_CZ

      Perhaps true. But one thing is sure: no one gets peace by wishful thinking or, worse, by indecision. Urong-sulong eh. Hwag gumalaw, baka mawala ang peace process. Ay, pwede pala mag air raid kahit meron ceasefire. Yun pala! Ba’t pinatagal pa. D’ agad alam ang gagawin eh. Kasi di alam ang mga pangyayari. Bahala na si batman.

      • Anonymous

        Any operation starts with intelligence feed. The provisioning, then re-validation, then actual operation.
        Re-validation is very important. Americans are notoriously incapable of going through this step, results: deaths from friendly fire.

      • Anonymous

        @jurbinsky77

        The AFP officially recognized the 18 October 2011 operation as properly sanctioned by higher authorities. So all the steps you mentioned should have been properly considered beforehand. However, there were admitted lapses according to the AFP. So be it.

        But incidents like this reach the President immediately, I hope. So why didn’t the President instead say, “Send reinforcements now and get our troops out of that place”; Let me worry about the MILF later, I know I can justify such reinforcement.”

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FTH5VEWTDDMMFIWB6XG5K5TVSI Moises

       right? how can you say so, when he’s just been too weak to make a solid stand in taking down those moro rebels who are very barbaric and unmerciful against their fellow Filipino.  Those “Peace Talk” would only serve as a shield by those rebels.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FTH5VEWTDDMMFIWB6XG5K5TVSI Moises

    wla kasing alam yang Abnoy na presidenting yan, kung siya kaya nawalan nang kamag-anak, o kaya ung ina-ambush while there is an existing ceasefire, same lang din kaya ang sasabihin nya? pinapakita lang nya kung gaano xa kahina, sabagay di nga nya kayang bigyan nang hustisya ung sa hacienda nila, kami pa kaya dito sa mindanao?  He doesn’t know anything about our life here, living in fear, with gunfires all around, especially in western and central mindanao. I saw the dead soldier who died on the last ambush which took place in Brgy. Payong, SND. it nkakapanghinayang tlaga na mkikita mo ung isang bayaning sundalo na namatay nang hindi man lang nka laban. 

  • Anonymous

    so what happen to the afp spokesperson, remember he gut suck for speaking about retaliating, now that the president ordered the afp to retaliate, will he get back his promotion and be in the active roster  of the afp in good standing

  • Anonymous

    All-Out Justice:  Another empty tagline like “Daang Matuwid” and “Kung Walang Kurap, Walang Mahirap.”

  • http://www.disqus.com mandy cuneta

    As a Mindanaoan, our hopes for peace never wanes. It’s only upsetting
    that our Luzon brothers are in uproar in pressing the President into
    launching an all-out war in utter disregard of the specter of sufferings
    that displaced civilians would have to undergo. War experts like FVR
    knows where war is heading once it is ignited. To what extent of havoc
    that it will wreak on peoples’ socio-economic lives. The damage it
    causes far outweighs the benefits reaped from waging a war. Mindanao
    problem is a complex one that if one views it on the outer perspective
    he cannot form a sound judgment. Rebels would not risk their prospect
    for a brighter future if they are wittingly fighting for a wrong cause.
    Our President should not totally succumb to the freakish wish of the
    hawkish segment of our society; and instead exercise restraint and
    sobriety in the face of such pressing circumstances as these. Affected
    ones should be listened to rather than mere spectators. If I may just
    add, freedom of information does not jive with a society whose populace
    are so psyched to wrist control of the wheels of administering to steer
    it to their desired course and path.

  • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

    The President is privy to all sorts of information both non-sensitive and classified that pertains to this conflict. These information would include logistics, political, economic, national security. . . . . . whatever course of action he takes also involves consultation with advisers and other experts. But lets forget all that and just listen to the comments made here by people who get their info from reporters who report the news.

    Note: But if you really want to go on an all out war, no one is stopping you. Knock yourself out! O baka naman ang gusto mo e all-out war sila tapos ikaw e nagkakamot ng bay_g!

  • Anonymous

    “walang wang-wang”, “kung walang kurap walang mahirap”, “daang matuwid” now comes “all out justice” whats next mr. president? you’re pretty good in concocting slogans to make your non existing policy looks good on paper, we’ve almost had it mr. president, your empty words and empty promises dont sell anymore, dont you think its about time to walk the talk.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4RIWX2NVLGVCWL7Y35LPICG7NU Thao

    Mr. President Aquino…. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT! I supported your Father during Marcos era. Up to the point that I endangered my life. Supported every uprising to defend Ninoy! I voted for your mother, I voted for you.

    May I ask a simple question? WTF are you doing now? Please live, and decide as noble and great just like your father and mother! These MILF traitors are not worth it! Obliterate them! That is the best solution!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5PGZA6WQW46QED7HFNWEDJ5EC4 Arnel

    many people who comments here negatively about the presidents decisions popular or unpopular should look at themselves..Si PNOY BEFORE HE MAKE A DECISION ..DAMI NIYA ADVISERS..DAMI NIYA EVIDENCE..CONSULTATIONS SA BOTH PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SECTORS.

    ANG PROBLEMA.. KAYO BALIMBING..ANO BASIS NINYO FOR YOUR COMMENTS?? ALAM KUNA..
    INTERNET CHISMISAN, BALITANG KUTSERO, KWENTONG BARBEYA..FACE TO FACE,..ETC

    SO PARA SA MGA BALIMBING DIAN..START NINYO NA  ANG CANDIDACY NI MIKE ARROYO FOR PRESIDENT SA 2016….DAMI SIYA PERA..FREE FOOD, FREE GIFTS..GALING RIN SA BULSA NINYO..
    GISA KAYO SARILI NINYO  MANTIKA…  MGA TANGA!!

    ALL OUT WAR..AGREE AKO!! MGA BALIMBING …>>>KAYO  MAUNA SA FRONTLINE..PWEDE RIN KAYO MAG SUICIDE BOMBER.. KAYO ANG CANCER SA PINAS.. MABAWASBAWASAN NAMAN ANG GAYA NINYO..PARA UMUNLAD ANG PINAS..

  • Anonymous

    Not all who criticizes the President want an all out war just as not all who adore the President want peace.

    The President is privy to all sorts of information. Precisely, it is the very reason why anyone might rightly expect the President to be decisive and prompt in crisis management.

    So what made the President belatedly change his mind about the nature of air strikes as, after all, conforming to the ceasefire agreement? Why would the lives of 19 soldiers be insufficient reason to deploy air strikes by way of reinforcement at the time of the attack?

    • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

      @Joven Contigo
      You are saying that the President’s decision is wrong even if you don’t even know half of the details about the conflict that he does. Looks like you’re in over your head.

      • Anonymous

        @twitter-103248106:disqus

        How sure are you that no one else knows the details of the conflict?

      • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

        Joven Contigo,

        Are you implying that you are privy to all the info that the President has? Lol!

        Nalintikan na!

        An executive decision requires a lot of input. It is not a one-man-show [^^,]

      • Anonymous

        You said that, not I. But there you go, an executive decision requires a lot of input. It’s pathetic that  paralysis and ambivalence should be first to come out of it. With all that input, he must have known what was happening to his troops.

        So why didn’t he say, SEND REINFORCEMENTS NOW. I WILL PERSONALLY TAKE CARE OF THE MILF LEADERSHIP LATER. RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO SAVE OUR MEN.

      • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

        Ok, although I didn’t see it like that. The absence of immediate rhetoric, eg: “Isang bala lang kayo,” was somewhat refreshing.

  • Anonymous

    Look at how amateurish P-noy, Sen. Santiago, Sec. Lacierda, lawyer Marvic Leonen, etc. are turning out to be. They have been giving rebellious status to the MILF, treating and talking to the MILF as if this group are statesmen or diplomats of another state, when this group are just common criminals, who engaged in drug trafficking, kidnap-for-ransom and other criminal activities in our country. Those who have supported this charade for decades must be thinking from their butts.

  • http://pinoy-politics.blogspot.com Monsi Serrano

    There’s no PEACE WITHOUT JUSTICE! There’s no JUSTICE WITHOUT RESTITUTION. Mr. President, we cry for the blood and heads of those who perpetuated this treachery. We don’t need PR campaign or propaganda. We need a SOLID and NON-NONSE ACTION from you the COMMANDER IN CHIEF! Nothing more, nothing less.

  • Anonymous

    All out war will not solve the problem. Even FVR a former general do not
    agree on all out war. PNoy is definitely right. 40 years of war did not
    do any good.

    Bomb the hideouts of the bandits but continue negotiation with milf.

    PNoy acted properly and did not succumb to emotional outburst. His emotional
    quotient is high which is a sign of maturity and true strength.

    The milf regained strength during 9 years of corrupt arroyo regime.

    • Anonymous

      @kulittwit:disqus

      Oo na nga, si GMA nga bumaril kay Jose Rizal sa Luneta.

  • http://twitter.com/toothpastesales be honest

    With the air strikes we are now sure that -
    1 )  The MILF Central Committee is just fat a s s living in good life. They are paper tiger. Roared and never admit fault. They can admit attack by disguishing as ” encounter “. They  CANNOT  CONTROL  their commanders and troops.
    2 )  MILF convinced the government to have their camps and ATS, so that they can ” harbor ” fugitives, criminals with protection. Its ‘ no men’s land ” near their camps and ATS. Government has to ” seek ” permission to enter their camps whereas the land is owned by the government.
    3 )  So what is ” all out justice ” for ?
    4 )  The only way to ” liberate ” Mindanao is to ” reoccupy ” what is rightfully owned by the government. The government has planes to bomb ALL the occupied camps and ATS and ground troops can drive them out to sea. To Malysia if they want to.
    5 )  Its the right moment now, once for all to settle the issue, not by peace talk, but by force.
    6 )  Mind you, ALL marines and soldiers will fight even to their death for honor, rather than a few years later being ambushed and slaughtered again.

  • Anonymous

    “Aquino: All-out justice for 19 dead soldiers”

    That is very good for the President to say,,,all out justice for 19 dead soldiers.
    At least Pnoy is becoming a very good Statesman. Good in stating words.
    All out war connotes, wipe out while justice is only for selected few.
    All out justice or All out war….it is all the same, the purpose is Kill those MILF rebels who killed the 19 soldiers.
    The method is the same as PAF bombs Moro rebels.
    In short, Iwas pusoy, no winner, no loser by his statement.

  • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

    I think there are some who would rather that the President use his mouth and not his head, but didn’t we already have that in the previous administration?

    • Anonymous

      Gee, like we didn’t have enough of “walang kurap, walang mahirap”, “matuwid na daan”, “utak wawang”, and now “all out justice.”

      • Anonymous

        But those are not hollowed words Joven – unlike prior administrations that gloss over hard truths with rhetorics – those words are being acted upon with calculated precision. Classic example is
        today’s news about a previously elected official who was charged guilty with over 100 years prison term.

        Many more are in the works as everyone in the current administration is seriously following and executing the policies laid out and laid down.

        I’m not gingerly awaiting the outcome, but rather excited to see many more results before this administration’s term ends.  

        Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan of the current administration. I am a fan of do-gooders with well thought out action plan that is being carefully executed, not hurriedly.

        –drefaura “if not now, when? well, hold your horses and share what you got”

      • Anonymous

        @drefaura

        Who was charged guilty? Charge pa lang, guilty na. Ok yan ah. And wow, I never knew our penal books contain a 100-year prison term. It must be one of the many new policies being seriously laid out.

        Like the well thought plan to ignore the plain words of the constitution for what a few good men perceive as their inherent right to lord over the funds of constitutional bodies, to underspend at the expense of the economy, to increase Government fees and toll rates at the expense of the transacting public.

        Like the well thought out action to make an assault in a hostage-taking last for an hour, to coddle erring friends against legitimate criticisms.

        Like it was a well thought plan to deny our troops of logistics and reinforcement after gratuitously giving the attackers five million pesos.

      • Anonymous

        @drefaura:disqus

        Who was charged guilty? Charge pa lang, guilty na. Ok yan ah. And wow, I never knew our penal books contain a 100-year prison term. It must be one of those seriously laid out plans.

        Like the well thought plan to ignore the plain words of the constitution for the honest intentions of a few good men to lord over the funds of constitutional bodies, to underspend at the expense of our economy, to increase Government fees and toll rates at the expense of the transacting public.

        Like the well thought action to make an assault in a hostage-taking last for an hour, to coddle erring friends against legitimate criticisms.

        Like the well thought action to deprive our troops of logistics and reinforcements after gratuitously giving the attackers 5 million pesos.

      • Anonymous

        Joven Contigo

        Sandiganbayan sentenced ex-ARRM officials, Candao (731 years) and Haron (867 years) jail terms.

        The Supreme Court modified Sandigan’s sentences to 153 years.

        Never heard of hundreds of years jail sentence?

        Now you know. Read more and more and more and further more, so you know.
        Abas was meted out a jail term of 731 years while Haron got a 867-year jail term.

        And I thought you stay connected and are reading the news.

      • Anonymous

        @drefaura:disqus

        I see.

        If I am not mistaken Candao, et al were convicted by the Sandiganbayan in 2008 based on COA Audit made in 1993, and the SC in a recent decision penned by Justice Villarama reduced the maximum period of the sentence to 17 years and 4 months for each count. However, you got it wrong that actual jail term would be 153 years because the sentence for each count is “served simultaneously”.

        You accepted hook, line, and sinker the wrong computation of reporter. You can read the read the Revised Penal Code (RPC) and the Indeterminate Sentence Law (ISLAW) and come back to me anytime if I am wrong on this point.

        In any event, it is presumptuous to attribute this affirmance of conviction to “daang matuwid” just because the affirmance happened in 2011. The charge happened sometime after September 1993 and the Sandiganbayan conviction happened in 2008, both incidents happened long before “daang matuwid” came to reign in this country. Malacanang does not even see the SC as an ally but as a stumbling block to “daang matuwid”. Even the ponente is not an appointee of the incumbent President.

      • Anonymous

        @drefaura

        I commend you for being updated with the news. But don’t right away believe everything you read in the news as accurate, much less brought about by “daang matuwid.”

        Don’t rush. Read the RPC and the ISLAW first. Read the actual decision of the SC and the Sandiganbayan. Take note: “SIMULTANEOUS SERVICE OF SENTENCE”. Then come back to me. I will wait for you with open arms.

      • Anonymous

        What “all-out-justice”?  Meaning, they have to go the process of justice?  Or bombs-away justice without judicial procedure?

        Someone is screwing the meaning of “justice”.  Well, this is the Philippines.  The land of englsichtzes-protector and snobbery !!!!

        HAWR! HAWR! HAWR!

      • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

        “Gee, like we didn’t have enough of “walang kurap, walang mahirap”, “matuwid na daan”, “utak wawang”, and now ‘all out justice’.”

        We? Gee, speak for yourself because I haven’t had enough. I want this administration to finish the job of going after corrupt gov’t officials. You argue over semantics, just call it “all out war.”

      • Anonymous

        @Sacrebleau

        Who said you are included in my “We”.

      • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

        @twitter-381818034:disqus 
        Good! Next time pay attention to details :-D

  • Anonymous

    All out war will not solve the problem. Even FVR a former general do not
    agree on all out war. PNoy is definitely right. 40 years of war did not
    do any good.

    Bomb the hideouts of the bandits but continue negotiation with milf.

    PNoy acted properly and did not succumb to emotional outburst. His emotional
    quotient is high which is a sign of maturity and true strength.

    The milf regained strength during 9 years of corrupt arroyo regime.

    • Anonymous

      @kulittwit

      Yes, GMA shot Jose Rizal too. Pinoy is right. 40 years of war did not give us peace, let’s try giving the  separatists a piece of our sovereignty and, most important, 5 million pesos.

  • Anonymous

    @kulittwit

    Yes, GMA shot Jose Rizal too. Pnoy is right. 40 years of war did not do any good, let’s try giving the separatists a piece of our sovereignty and, most important, 5 million pesos.

  • Anonymous

    Pakialisin sana ni Pnoy ang dilaw na ribbon at lalong nakakadismaya. Di ba dapat Philippine flag sana ang pinagmamalaki niya. Unity not division sir.

  • Anonymous

    @Sacrebleau

    Are you talking to yourself?

    • http://twitter.com/sacrebleau Sacrebleau

      @twitter-381818034:disqus 

      On that lame, juvenile comeback, I bid you adieu. Au revoir!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z7AH6YCCWSSUXMBAV2OTNY3WS4 smokey

    How can he say an all out war when he himself doled out millions of pesos to the MILF to buy guns and bullets that killed innocent Filipinos.

  • Anonymous

    “Told that the MILF had stated in its website that the rebel group was responsible for attacking the 19 soldiers in Basilan, the President said he did not view the MILF website as he made clear that there were specific arrest warrants for the 10 Abu Sayyaf bandits.”
    MILF: Kami ang pumatay sa 19 na sundalo kasi naman inaatake kami…
    PNoy:  Ah basta, hindi kayo, mas marunong pa kayo sa akin.  Arestuhin ang mga Abu Sayyaf na yan.  Tara na,  tulungan nyo naman kami…

    Madness has set in.



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