Church flexes poll clout

Bacolod bishop leads rally vs RH law

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FOREVER AND NEVER Bacolod Bishop Vicente Navarra leads a rally against the reproductive health law, pledging the Church’s support in the May elections for candidates who opposed it in Congress and rejection of those who voted for it. Among those on stage who have the Church’s support are senatorial bets Sen. Gregorio Honasan, Rep. Mitos Magsaysay, Rizalito David, JC de los Reyes and Ang Kapatiran founder Nandy Pacheco. ANDY ALVAREZ/CONTRIBUTOR

BACOLOD CITY—“Junk the RH law! Junk the RH law!” the brave 6,000 chanted.

Rain failed to stop them from converging on the public plaza here on Saturday to demand the repeal of the reproductive health (RH) law.

The ralliers, all drenched, promised to support in next month’s elections candidates who voted against the RH bill in Congress and junk those who voted for it.

The Catholic Church count the candidates who opposed the RH bill as members of “Team Buhay” (Life) and those who voted for it members of “Team Patay” (Death). 

Most of the ralliers wore red shirts, transforming Bacolod Public Plaza into a sea of red.

Senatorial candidates Gregorio Honasan and Mitos Magsaysay of the United Nationalist Alliance and John Carlos “JC” de los Reyes and Rizalito David of Ang Kapatiran party attended the rally.

Of the four, only Honasan and Magsaysay are on the Team Buhay list of the Diocese of Bacolod for opposing the RH law.

De los Reyes and David are newcomers to senatorial politics.

The others on the Team Buhay list are Joseph Victor Estrada, Antonio Trillanes, Aquilino Pimentel III and Cynthia Villar.

The candidates listed by the diocese as members of Team Patay are Juan Edgardo Angara, Francis Escudero, Loren Legarda, Alan Peter Cayetano, Risa Hontiveros, Teddy Casiño and Jack Enrile.

Party-list groups Gabriela, Bayan Muna, Akbayan and Anak Pawis are also on the Team Patay list of the diocese.

The Team Patay, Team Buhay tarpaulin sign remains hanging on the facade of San Sebastian Cathedral here, as the Supreme Court has temporarily stopped the Commission on Elections from removing it.

Bacolod Bishop Vicente Navarra, who led the rally, was happy with the turnout, saying it was “very inspiring.”

Navarra said the diocese would continue to call for the scrapping of the RH law, which, according to him, posed the threats of loss of faith and moral corruption on Catholics.

Following Christ

“It is an uphill battle, but let us encourage one another to continue the fight because we are doing what Christ would have done in obedience to His Father’s [will],” Navarra said.

The bishop promised that the Church would continue to support “prolife” candidates.

He said the crowd that marched to the plaza was initially estimated at 12,000, but the heavy downpour that came just before 1 p.m. reduced the number of the marchers by half.

The ralliers came from four points in the city: the Capitol Lagoon Park for northern parishes, Sto. Niño Parish Church on BBB Galo Street for northeastern parishes, Lupit Church for southern parishes, and Holy Family Parish Church for southeastern parishes.

‘Obey God’

About 6,000 made it to the plaza, and the Church’s message was printed on the back of their red shirts: “Obey God rather than men.”

On the stage hung a huge tarpaulin sign that read, “Team Buhay forever, Team Patay never.”

But unlike the sign on the facade of the cathedral, the sign on the stage did not contain the names of the “politicians of life” and the “politicians of death.”

“Junk the RH law!” the crowd chanted. “Junk the RH law!”

In an interview, Honasan said he was encouraging Catholics to continue the battle against the RH law because the right to life is stressed in the Constitution.

“It has to be a continuing advocacy to preserve and repair our damaged institutions beyond the 2013 elections for national survival,” he said.

Score for Church

Honasan noted that the Church has had victories in the Supreme Court, pointing out the temporary restraining order on the Team Patay, Team Buhay sign, and on the implementation of the RH law.

“The fight must continue,”he said.

Magsaysay said the RH law was not necessary because its provisions were already in the Magna Carta of Women.

She said that if elected to the Senate, she would fight for changes in the RH law to make it ethically acceptable.

But she did not say if she would work for the repeal of the law.

De los Reyes said the RH law must be repealed because it would destroy the family and the morals of the Filipino people.

David said he, too, wanted the law repealed. It must be repealed even after the Supreme Court strikes down some of its provisions, he said.

Lyndon Cana, Bacolod independent congressional candidate and chairman of the Citizens’ Alliance for the Protection of Human Life, said the followers of the Church would never retreat, never surrender in the battle for the protection of life and against the RH law.

“God will be with us,” he said.

First posted 12:01 am | Sunday, April 28th, 2013

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  • quirinomayer

    Junk all the senatorial candidates of Padre Damasos because if they win, they will be subservient to the Catholic Church. We do not need Catholic lackeys and fanatics as public leaders as their loyalty are to Padre Damaso and to Rome than to the republic.

    • Michael Mallari

      Really… and whose lackey you want them to be…. for P-Noy??? tell me.. what have he done so far for the last three years… did he make food for the poor… or just pure and simple pogi points and nothing more…. The RH bill may sound good for those that are pro SEX and sex… and sex… and nothing more… so what lackey are you made of then… lackey of sexual desire ??? or just plain and simple… lacky of an angel that does not come from the good faith???

      • Derek

        You need to study economics more. And stop thinking about sex.

      • Jay Ann

        RH Bill ka ng RH bill, bibil bilin kita e. Wala nang bill, law na ito, naipasa na. Wag ka ngang tanga. Bago ka makipag debate sa publiko, ayusin mo muna argumento mo. No wonder ang dami mong thumbs down. Pati mga anti RH law, imbyerna sa katangahan mo.

      • brunogiordano

        ang galit sa sex malamang may SEX DYSFUNCTION kaya hindi ma enjoy ang SEX.

      • magsasakasanayon

        naiwan mo yata sa toilet ang utak mo. balikan mo baka nandun pa.

      • JOHNCeneza

        P-Noy cannot make food for the poor. Because he is not a chef nor a charity ward.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        in 1966 paul v1 appointed a 58 man committee to study birth control made up of bishops after 2 years of study they voted and 55 voted for birth control. when this made the news caholics rejoiced. but the three losers met with the pope in private and talked him out of supporting birth control so he rejected the commisions vote. 2 years wasted. in the 1970s the bishops were pulled in the west about birth control over 60 percent approved. the vatican panicked and went into the third world countries saying the west is going to take your children they will force you to take the pill. the pill kill everyone who uses it. condoms dont work because they have holes in the them. the same lies i have seen in the papers here.everyone ever ask how come you can blow one up and it holds air. anyway because of 3 greedy men the church is against birth control…

      • JuanTamadachi

        good one

      • Crazy_horse101010

        heres another one. st. augustine says sex was a sin even for married couples unless they use sex to produce children. he also said married couples who were sterile. and had sex were committing sin. so the good married cathlocs who are to old to have children or have sex for the joy of it are going to hell. only problem i have with this is how do you know your sterile unless you have sex. but hey he is your saint.

      • JuanTamadachi

        :)

    • rodben

      I suggest Singapore and Pinas swap there citizens surely these two country will meet their populations target…kasi mga kababaihan sa Singapore ay sinisiminar para mag buntis at libre pa pills pang buntis di kasi sila mabuntis dahil sa palaging busy sa trabaho every minute..at Pinas naman masiminar mga kababaihan para di mabuntis at free condom at free unti-birth pills na gagastusan ng billiones ng gobyerno, dahil sa walang makuhang mga mahihirap trabaho kya palaging buntis…OFW po ako noong parehas kami ng Misis ko nagtatrabaho 4yrs kmi di makabuo sabi ng Doctor kailangan daw parehas kami walang trabaho para makabuo dahil daw pagparehas pagod ang mag asawa mahina din daw ang egg…so tigil kmi ng 2yrs walang trabaho sa awa ng Dios nag kaanak kmi…so para sa akin ay trabaho ang kailangan talaga para ma-control ang pagdami ng tao sa pinas…sa tingin ko po mga rebelde po ang sanhi ng kahirapan sa Pinas, mga magsasaka nag e-squatter sa Metro manila dahil kita nila sa bukid ay napupunta daw sa REVOLUTIONARY TAX ng mga rebelde at yan din ang dahilan kong bakit ang mamahal ng mga basic sevices sa pinas dahil mga negusyante ay kinukutungan din ng mga rebelde pag di nagbigay susunugin o di kya lulusubin ang fabrica at ito rin ang dahilan kya takot magnegusyo mga businessmen sa mga kanayunan…Mabuhay kyo dyan sa Pinas mula sa HAMAK AT HINAHAMAK NA OFW…

      • juanpedro de jose

        parehas lang kayo ng mga rebelde.. namundok sila kasi inapi ng gobyerno ikaw naging OFW kasi walang trabahong mabigay sayo ang gobyerno…

      • kumilos_tayo

        Maraming trabaho stupid.. Nag OFW yan kasi mas gusto nyang mabigyan ng mas magandang kinabukasan pamilya nya.. Hindi ibig sabihin walang trabaho sa pinas.. Maraming pinoy ang tamad yun ang totoo.. Hindi sila inapi TAMAD sila at gusto din nila magka POWER at MAS CORRUPT yan sila…

    • speaksoftlylove

      Who are the candidates of your alleged Padre Damaso or you lack some dosage again?

    • speaksoftlylove

      By the way, the powerful solid voting block INK, is set to vote for UNA
      as a “reckoning measure” for what the administration did to for Chief
      Justice Corona and the former NIB Chief (at least if you will believe
      Santiago). Since there will be no list of supported senatorial candidates by the Roman Catholic Church, are these yellowvultures referring to the INKs as Padre Damasos? Is that it, quirimayer?

      • kumilos_tayo

        Kaya nga nakakaawa sila kasi basta na lang sila susunod sa sinabi ng leader nila na kahit alam nila na corrupt pero ka member nila papanigan nila at susuportahan.. Kaya naghihirap ang bayan dahil sa tulad nila..

    • etomacq

      junk all the Senatorial candidates of team penoy..

      we don’t need fanatics loyal to their idol Noynoy.

      not even 1 from penoy team will get my vote.

      • kumilos_tayo

        Kayo mismo ang nagpapabagsak sa bansa natin dahil sa pag supporta nyo sa mga corrupt.. NO TO UNA… nangunguna sa corruption..

      • etomacq

        Si Noynoy ang Presidente, sya at ang kanyang mga alagad ang nasa kapangyarihan, sila ang namamalakad ng Pilipinas kaya wag mo kami sisihin kung bumabagsak ang Pilipinas.

        I am against CORRUPTION,TRAPO and POL-DYNASTY.. Ayoko ko din s mga ineendorso ni Noynoy.. Si Noynoy ay isang sinungaling at mahina ang pag iisip.

      • mave

        hehehe halata naman sayo kahit sa mga comment mo simulat sapol, kahit wag mo na ipag sigawan halatado na pare..

    • ARIKUTIK

      Whom shall I believe, the sinful men or the wisdom of God. I’d rather believe God my savior.

  • wawa2172

    It’s PNoy against the catholic church. The president signed the bill us urgent and both congress passes it into law in a very swift manner since he seated in power. I am catholic but pro-RH, my respect to the church does not diminish even if I am on the opposite side of the fence. High poverty incidence is caused by overpopulation at di makahabol ang ekonomiya sa sobrang dami nang Filipino kaya marami ang naghihirap. So kung majority ang Team PNoy winner lalo na sa lower house it simply means a snub to catholic religion.

    • Michael Mallari

      THE PROBLEM of PILIPINO PEOPLE is not about tge POPULATION CONTROL…. but more on the severe downfall of moral values and ethics….. But people want pre-marital sex… sex outside marriage… and do sex as simple as if it is just a pastime, then we have this problem and the AIDS problem… BUT INSTEAD OF ATTACKING THE RUTH of the PROBLEM… they care creating another problem that would deprive moral ground among the youth…. what kind of thinking you have people…….

      • Derek

        Filipino morals have been going down hill since 1800’s. Down a very steep hill

      • Islander

        Hehehehe, what happened ba in 1800s?

      • Eugene De Ocampo

        sana mabalita ko man lang ang Chatholic church na nag abot ng tulong sa mga batang nakakalat sa lansangan dahil pro life sila eh

      • Tyril

        I agree that the bad culture is the root of the problem, but do you believe that this culture could be cured immediately, or could be cured at all? And is the Catholic Church really curing this bad culture? It seems to be promoting bribery and hipocrisy.

        Changing the bad culture/morals/ethics is something not changed immediately. It would take years/decades/centuries for this to be changed. Compare it to our colonial mentality thinking that Americans/whites are the superior race; this still exists even now decades after the american rule. Worse, we still see America as a “great” example therefore we follow their culture – including their culture of sexual promiscuity(casual sex). It would take decades for our culture to be disciplined like that of Singapore.
        This bad culture of promiscuity is becoming a rising trend globally. Practically, it seems that we cannot stop it completely. The world is on a natural trend of Entropy – disorder and destruction.

        With all these, the RH bill is the most practical and logical “solution.” It does not completely address the root of the problem, which is the bad culture/tradition/morals/ethics our society has, but at least it patches/cures the symptoms of it. It is better than nothing. Without it, we are just allowing our society to be in disorder in terms of sexual promiscuity.

        I still agree that addressing the root of the problem is the better, but ideal, solution. But do we have social institutions that can cleanse/cure our bad culture? Is the Catholic Church really effective at disciplining and enlightening its flock and leading them to righteousness? No, and in some cases it even discourages people and lead them to the unrighteous path. The government cannot directly do anything about the culture, since it is not its function.

        As much as some people do not like the RH bill, what if it is meant to happen. What if it is meant to do good, even though some people do not expect it to. Come on guys, let’s accept the law. It has been voted upon by the people you elected. Vox populi vox Dei – the voice of the people is the voice of God. This RH law is meant to happen, and is possibly the voice of God.

      • Ulipur

        The RUTH of the problem….What is this animal? Does it fly, swim, crawl or rock and roll?

      • magsasakasanayon

        haha. RUTH of the problem daw. mother-effing stupid.

      • JOHNCeneza

        Actually teaching morals is in the realm of the Church. If moral values goes down, it means that the church is not doing its job in educating her flocks. or maybe her flock is quite large that her clergies cannot reach and educate them all therefore there is a need to control the growth of her flock so that her clergy will not be overwelmed.

      • brunogiordano

        ang problema sa mga pari at obispong DAMASO ang MORAL na itinuturo nila 200 years behind na.

      • ayupayupan77

        i agree…………….dami katolikban na ipangangalandakan na kesyo couples for christ daw o kaya ay kasama sa prex………pero sila pa yung unang tsismoso at tsismosa at mangangalunya……pwe

      • josh_alexei

        Before the RH Law, the Phl is one among the highest rate in Single mothers..it is also rated as top in unwanted pregnancy and majority of these pregnancy ended up being aborted in unsafe procedure and in turn making the country among the high rate in Maternal mortality..One of the Provision of the RH law is to provide education and information to the masses at the expense of the General taxpayers to minimize these issues and to plan their families. Religion has nothing to do with the population Morality, individually and collectively…If you take a look at the countries that are Less Religious at Current time, you will surely see that they are relatively Peaceful, Less Corruption, Less Killings, and less personal insults in their Forum and discussions and Progressive…

      • Crazy_horse101010

        man they sure have brainwashed you.. and how are you going to stop the fact that the philippines is one of the world leaders in teen age pregnancies, tell them please stop having sex or maybe you can get every teenager a chasitiy belt. you would be better off getting a bucket and draining the ocean dry. without sex education and birth control nothing will ever change period. and dont give me youir mumble jumble because i came from a birth control country and know it works and not one person was ever charged with murder and put in jail. period. . .

      • ayupayupan77

        i agree and who should we blame ………….di ba dapat sermunan natin mga pari because they were not able to improve the standards of what we call morality……………kapag ang isang engineer pumalpak ang building na ginawa-terminate……..kapag isang teacher hindi nakuhang matutu ang mga studyante- palitan………….kapag ang mga church goers ay sumasama keysa bumuti………..sino kaya dpat palita yung miyembro o yung KATOLIKBAN NA NAGTUTURO…………………kung matitino lang mga PARI…………di sana matitino mga pilipino na 80 percent katoliko……….kaso imbes na pagbutihan pagpapalaganap ng banal na aral…………….BUSY MASYADO KAY SAKRISTAN……………….nagkalokoloko na……si politiko na katoliko corrupt……..si mayor si gob si sen………..si Kanor na pulis corrupt at ito ay katoliko din……….si bayang na accountan corrupt( katolik din)……….si Nognog na abugado ubod ng kasinungalingan at yabang ( katoliko din)……….dpaat kung talagang PRO MORALITY MGA PARI UNAHIN NILA ITO

    • Michael Mallari

      Have it not come into your mind, that by RH bill… it would actually be taken by the youth that sex is natural to everyone….. NO, NO.. we are not ANIMAL.. please dont lower ourself into that level… HAVE SOME SORT OF DESCENCY…… if you want to be foolish… go ahead….. be foolish, but dont drag us into that.. JUST BECAUSE of the so called liberal thinking of the devil……please…… dont mess our young life because you are fool to take the problem lightly and not attend to its real cause…..

      • Derek

        Idiot. Family planning is the focus here. Think about family planning. People who are born into poverty only know a life of poverty, rare are those who leave it. Think about it.

      • Ayumi Water

        drama mo. di ka pinipilit na gumamit ng condom. kagalitan mo mga kapwa mong katoliko na di sang-ayon sa yo, hindi madlang Pilipino. dun ka sa simbahan mag-ingay, di sa labas na naririnig ng mga di Katoliko. kakarindi marinig ang kabo bohan at pangingialam nyo sa iba na parang kayo lang Pilipino at kayo lang anak ng Diyos.

      • JOHNCeneza

        i got lost in our english.

      • wawa2172

        We agree to disagree, I am more descent than most of your like as far as moral values is concern. I am more into responsible parenthood and safe sex. I am a catholic and I do what the birds and the bees do and I do it responsibly. I care for my wife and we promise to be responsible parents without sacrificing our sex life. We do it safe brother. Again, look around you, if you think you have solution to overpopulation and poverty?

      • Ellee Bullo

        ipokrita ka naman te, josko ang sex makikita mo kahit saan di ko sinasabi itolerate ang ganito pero natural na kalakaran na un ngaun, magpakatotoo lang tayo… hmmmppp di na kasi uso si maria clara dati, computer age na tayo ika nga madali na makahanap ng sex… alam ko mali un pero may magawa ka ba kundi umanib na lang sa RH law kasi un ang paraan para maging safe kasi di na mababago pag iisip ng makabagong pilipino sa sex..

  • John_Galt_II

    Ang dami talagang may toyo sa Pilipinas!

    • Michael Mallari

      yes.. ang daming may toyo sa pinas at bumoto sa RH Bill… tsk.. naiisip ba nila kung may RH bill na nuong araw.. sana wala na sila ngayon.. RH BILL is anti life…. and it would curve the will of GOD…and may likely caused more abnormal birth… =(

      • Derek

        it does not promote death. bigot

      • Guest

        alam ko ito ang will of god dahil ito ang nakasulat sa Bibliya try to open your Bible

        Titus 3:1

        Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work,

        Romans 13:1

        Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.

      • brunogiordano

        ang mga sumusunod ay nakasulat din sa BIBLIYA.

        “So what does the Bible tell us?

        Who should we kill? ?

        * Homosexuals (Lev.20:13, Rom.1:26-32)
        * Adulterers (Lev.20:10, Deut.22:22)
        * Disobedient children (Deut.21:20-21, Lev.20:9, Exod.21:15)
        * Women who are not virgins on their wedding night (Deut.22:13-21)
        * All non-Christians (parable told by Christ – Luke.19:27)
        * Those accused of wickedness by at least two people (Deut.17:2-7)
        * Anyone who works on the Sabbath (Exod.35:2-3, Num.15:32-6) (not even to kindle a fire, and no exclusion for ambulance drivers)

        Women

        * It is shameful for a woman to speak in church (1Cor.14:34-5)
        * A man must OK his wife´s words if they are to have force (Num.30:8)
        * A woman must not teach or hold authority over a man (1Tim.2:12)
        * Lot saves the messengers from the men of Sodom by offering up his virgin daughters to ´do to them as you please´ (Gen.19:8) Kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourself every girl who has never slept with a man (Moses – Num.31:17-8)

        Slavery

        * God supports slavery (Lev.25:44-6, Exod.21:2-8, Eph.6:5, Col.3:22)
        * Instructions on how to sell your daughter as a slave (Exod.21:7-8)
        * When to give your slaves severe or light beatings (Luke.12:42-8)
        * OK to beat slaves only if they don´t die within 2 days (Exod.21:20-1)
        * How to mark your slave: drive an awl through its ear (Deut.15:17)

        Marriage

        * It´s best if all people remain unmarried. Marriage is a lesser-of-two-evils compromise for Christians too weak to resist their sexual urges, for it is better to marry than to burn. (Paul – 1Cor.7:1-2, 8-9, 25-6, 38)
        * The rapist of an unwed woman must buy her and make her his wife (apparently a far more ‘holy’ union than a genuine, loving same-sex relationship) – Deut.22:28-9

        Justice

        * If a man suspects his wife of cheating he can serve her a cursed drink; if she becomes deformed, then that proves her guilt (Num.5:12-31)
        * 42 children killed by bears for calling a prophet baldy (2King.2:23-4)
        * OK to beat your children with a rod – it won’t kill them (Prov.23:13-4)
        * God commits, orders, or endorses every form of atrocity known to man (pretty much pick a page of the Old Testament at random)

        Do the Old Testament laws still apply?

        * Every jot and tittle (Christ Matt.5:17-9)

        Christ, what a role model!

        * Christ tells us we must hate our entire family, and even our own life, if we want to be one of His disciples (Luke.14:26)
        * Those who abandon their families will be rewarded (Matt.19:29)
        * ´For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother… And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.´ (Christ – Matt.10:35-6)
        * I came not to send peace, but a sword (Christ – Matt.10:34)
        * If you don´t have a sword, sell your clothes to buy one (Luke.22:36)
        * Curses fig tree for not bearing fruit in off-season (Mark.11:12-4, 20-1)
        * Didn´t want to help girl because she was a ´dog´ gentile (Matt.15:22-8)

        Of course there are several good passages in the Bible, the ones that are carefully selected by your minister for Sunday readings. But (and pardon the analogy) if you find some chocolate in a pile of dung you don´t eat it, right? No. The good is tainted by the bad that surrounds it.”

        naniniwala ka rin diyan????

      • Eugene De Ocampo

        alam ko ito ang will of God dahil ito ang nakasulat sa Bibliya try to open your Bible

        Titus 3:1

        Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work,

        Romans 13:1

        Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.

      • John_Galt_II

        Sana matagal ng may RH Bill para hindi ka na ipinanganak!

      • Crazy_horse101010

        your ranting and dont have a clue as to what you are talking about what abnormal births. getting desperate arent we and what does a curve have to do with anything

  • http://www.businessinsider.com/the-art-of-war-sun-tzu-2011-5?op=1 SunTzu

    Junk Padre Damaso!!!

    • Michael Mallari

      Do you know who is Padre Damaso??? where they come from.. obviously, you are just a noise…..and you dont even read your history….. i suggest you read first.. then you talk later..

      • Derek

        you are just a noise? noise is more or less plural. And also, you should read too. Read and understand. You’re biased anyway. Bigot

      • http://www.businessinsider.com/the-art-of-war-sun-tzu-2011-5?op=1 SunTzu

        You are just a garbages, a hypocrites, a dumbasses… nose bleed!

      • Jay Ann

        Yes I know Padre Damaso. He is the biological father of Maria Clara. No difference than a number of Padres now in our modern times.

      • ayupayupan77

        padre damaso of noli is better than the DAMASOS OF TODAY……….sya isa lang naging anak nya at di pumatol ng mga little boys…………….kawawang bayan

  • KurakotNaPinoy

    what is to ceasar’s is to ceasar’s

    what is to God’s is to God’s

    • Michael Mallari

      INDEED…. and LIFE is for GOD… and not for any people to decide… SO GIVE LIFE… JUNK RH BILL NOW!!!!

      • Jay Ann

        Wala na pong RH bill… FYI, naipasa na po ang bill, at RH law na ito. Don’t be tanga and ignoramus. BOBO!!!!

      • brunogiordano

        paniwala niya hangang ngayon ang araw ang umiikot sa mundo.

      • etomacq

        The Reproductive Health (RH) law in Philippines is on hold or on “status quo ante”. The implementation of the law is delayed for 120 days. The Supreme Court will review 10 petitions filed against it. The RH law was supposed to take place last March 31.

        Sino ngayon ang bobo?

      • magsasakasanayon

        so it’s no longer a bill. it’s already a law. ang implementation lang ang on hold. sino ngayon ang bobo?

      • etomacq

        Implementation is the carrying out, execution, or practice of a plan, a method, or any design for doing something. As such, implementation is the action that must follow any preliminary thinking in order for something to actually happen.

        The RH law is still powerless until final implementation.

        May ngipin na ang batas na ito pero hndi pa rin sya pwedeng mangagat.

      • tarikan

        Lagot sila bishop pagpwede nang mangagat, rabies ang abutin nila.

      • etomacq

        hindi mo ba nabasa pinost ko? kung matalino ka sana naintindihan mo.

      • juanpedro de jose

        eh di sino pa kundi ikaw…lol…!

      • marionics

        but it is a law right not a bill? he he

      • etomacq

        Sinabi ko bang bill???

      • marionics

        oops sorry, wrong send. that was meant for the other guy. cheers

      • etomacq

        apology accepted….

      • abner

        di pa batas yun..di pa iniimplement eh…..kapag napatunayan na unconstitutional yon..magiging batas ba yun??? siempre hindi…batas ba ang di nman pwede ipatupad??? ang bobo mo din jay ann.lol

      • marionics

        you answered your own question, “kapag napatunayang unconstitutional yan” e di ngayon na hindi pa napapatunayan e di batas pa nga siya he he

      • IsipPinoy

        Common sense lang hijo. Hindi pa nag decide ang Supreme Court na unconstitutional ang RH Law kaya batas pa rin yun sa ngayon.

      • Derek

        God gave us free will to chose. And we chose a system to govern us. I don’t think you really understand what you replied to.

      • RachelleDomingo

        that fact that you call it RH BILL shows how blind you are and is simply saying what the church tells you.

        1. its a law now

        2. the law covers a lot more with what you guys are trying to protest.

        3. stop throwing random comments please.

      • Horst Manure

        Get well soon.

      • upupperclassman

        Mabuti pa magluto ka sa kusina.

      • Concur_Dissent

        ganda ng sulat mo dito….pero, saan sa bibliya yang sabi mo?

      • sk2tk

        TANGA!!! para kang rabbit, gusto tumira lng ng tumira, bahala na bukas.. GUNGGUNG…

      • etomacq

        Ganyan umasta at magsalita ang mga pro-RH at followers ni Noy…

    • etomacq

      parang nabasa ko sa bibliya “humayo kayo at magparami”.. so giving importance to life is GOD’s instruction.. so the government should not interfere with GOD’s words.

      • rhinotillexomaniac

        Eng-eng ka pala eh, si Adan at si Eba pa lang ang tao nun, talagang sasabihan sila na “humayo at magpakarami.” Almost 7 billion na ang tao sa mundo ngayon, di pa ba marami sayo yun? Ang hirap sa mga ka-tribo mo, hanggang dun lang sa “magpakarami” ang ang binabasa, why not read further and you will see the words, “magpakarami… kalatan ang lupa at inyong SUPILIN.” It means, go forth and multiply, fill the earth, and SUBDUE it. Now, consult any dictionary and find the meaning of the word “subdue.” Have a nice day.

      • etomacq

        Subdue: to conquer and bring into subjection

        So ibig sabihin “go forth and multiply, fill the earth and conquer it”

        Mali ba yun pagkakaintindi ko Mr Henyo?

      • tarikan

        Pre, nabanggit mo si Lolo Adan at Lola Eba. Kamag-anak mo rin ba sila? Malayong kamag-anak ko na yung mag-asawa, naikwento laang ng lelong ko maaatagaaaal ng panahon. Sabi ng lelong ko silang dalawa laang (Lolo Adan at Lola Eba) sa umpisa maaga ngang namatay si Lolo Adan pero nakapag-iwan ng tatlong anak puro lalake. Batang nabiyuda si Lola Eba. Tanong ko papano dumami ang ankan nila Lola Eba? Sinabi ng lelong ko mag-isip ka sabay kindat. Yaaak, kadiri. Buti na laang wala pang incest law noon. Kulong sana yong tatlong magkakapatid…hmmm pati na rin yong Lola ko. Wala tayo ngayon. Hmmm, kalungkot.

      • brunogiordano

        “………so the government should not interfere with GOD’s words.”

        god should not interfere to GOVERNMENT’S WORDS. much better.

      • etomacq

        Kung priotiry mo words of the gov’t rather than the words of God e nasasayo na yun.

        Obviously hindi ka maka Diyos.

        For me, mas importante ang salita ng Diyos kaysa sa salita ng gobyerno.

      • http://www.facebook.com/garcia.johnny Johnny Garcia

        utos iyon noong panahon na kokonti pa lang ang tao. kung may utos na kumain ka at magpakabusog, kakain ka pa ba kung busog ka na?

      • ayupayupan77

        etomacq is hypocrite……….he forgot to mention the last line………..at SUPILIN ITO …..meaning CONTROLIN………………….

      • etomacq

        ok ka lang.. conquer nga sa ingles ang supilin/kontolin.. ibig sabihin ng bersyon na sinulat mo, kontolin ng mga tao ang mundo. hindi kontolin ang pag dami.. mali ka lang ata ng pagkakaintindi. ok na ba yun mr henyo?

      • ayupayupan77

        talaga……………ano po yung subdue

      • marionics

        naku wala na nga ang mga may topak dito pero napalitan naman ng mga bobo. i don’t know which is worse hahaha

      • etomacq

        so sinasabi mo na mali ang salita ng Diyos????

      • ayupayupan77

        you forgot to mention the lasdt part………..at SUPILIN ITO…………..pls lang po stop being hypocrite………..instead na pinipigilan nyo ang kung ano makakabuti para sa bayan………….pigilan nyo na lang sina padeer na sa pangmomolestya sa mga sakristan………………….80 percent ng mga adrush ay bading o kaya paminta

      • etomacq

        siguro paminta ka…

      • ayupayupan77

        talaga……gagamit ka ng quote sa bible pero kulang naman……..kinocorrupt mo salita ng Dios………bakit di mo sinabi yung SUPILIN…………you are putting Gods words in your mouth…………CNUHnGAYling

      • jcsantos

        Practice what you preach. Good luck with your 10+ children in the future.

      • etomacq

        I have 6 children.. 3 college graduates 2 high school and 1 elementary. Nakakaraos ako ng walang tulong sa inutil na gobyerno. Galing ako sa mahirap na pamilya… seperated mga magulang ko since I was 14 yrs old. Walang naitulong sakin gobyerno.. nagsariling sikap ako.

        May kilala ako magkapatid, mula pagkabata gang tumanda nasa skwater pa rin sila.

        So wala talaga sa konti o dami ng pamilya yan.. kung marunong lang dumiskarte ang isang tao mabubuhay sila.

      • jcsantos

        Not enough. “Go forth and multiply” right? Go make more! The moment you stop making children is the moment you commit a grave sin against God!

      • etomacq

        There are no words written in the bible saying that the moment you stop making children is the moment you commit a grave sin against God!

        If those words did not came from GOD.. then we all know were it came from… it came from GOD’s mortal enemy… Satan.

      • jcsantos

        Good! Priests have been repeatedly making such claims in their campaign against the RH Bill. At least you agree that these claims are contradictory to “God’s will”!

      • etomacq

        I guess you misunderstood me.

        God wants us to populate the earth… HE instructed us to multiply.. He never told us to stop multiplying by using contraceptives.

        It was only you who said that the moment a person stops making children it is the moment that person commits a grave sin against God. You are inventing words that are not found in the bible.

      • jcsantos

        I don’t have to invent something priests have been preaching during homily. After all, aren’t they the absolute interpreters of God?

      • etomacq

        For me, they are not the interpreter of God.. they are only the interpreter of the bible..

      • jcsantos

        Then be careful with how you use that bible quote lest you’d be associated with the priests abusing them. Do remember to add “… and subdue the earth” right after. which is so frequently and conveniently removed every time this line has been quoted. Understand the context WITH the added line and you can avoid falling in the same pit they did. The same quote has been used to justify that infertile men must die due to the sole fact that they cannot multiply.

      • etomacq

        Same to you.. you should also be careful with how you use and interpret the bible. you are not the interpreter of GOD.

      • jcsantos

        That is my usual devil’s advocate reply to those using that quote, which hopefully forces them to see the error of using this quote alone without the conveniently removed line.

        “For me, they are not the interpreter of God.. they are only the interpreter of the bible..”

        Here, you’re already differentiating between God and the bible, the book itself being made only centuries after Jesus died but only under Constantine (whose government fed St. Peter to the lions) who then used his religion to influence and control other countries regardless of its purpose (if St. Peter was even trying to make a religion in the first place). The same government was the one that organized what to put in the bible, what books to include and not to include and what else to edit, thus the bible itself has missing books as well as including biased, made believe stories, not to mention that majority of the old testament is only passed on via word of mouth for generations.

        Therefore, aside from the very main basis of Catholicism, which is Jesus’ story, I’ll take a grain of salt all other parts except for those that actually make sense and can serve as very good life principles. Those using bible quotes to attack homosexuality failed to use another quote, located in the same page, attacking those wearing two fabrics in their clothes.

      • IsipPinoy

        Sabi ng God mo ganun nga pero sabi ng God ko maghinay hinay lang sa pagdami. Papano ngayon yan.

      • etomacq

        di sambahin mo God mo.. Wag mo pakialaman ang Diyos ko.

        Si Noy ba God mo?

      • IsipPinoy

        Ang point ko ay the Catholic church is not the govt kaya huwag ihalo dito ang religion. Kung ayaw mong gumamit ng contraceptive at mag-anak ka ng dozens it will be your choice but don’t deny others na gustong gumamit ‘nun.

      • etomacq

        Ano problema dun? e di gumamit ka ng condom hanggang gusto mo. You have the freedom to choose. Karapatan mo naman yun di ba?

        kahit pagbawalan ka ng katoliko bakit mo papansinin? di ba may sarili kang Diyos?

        parehas lang naman na may punto ang simbahan at ang gobyerno. nasa tao na lang kung sino susundin ng konsyensya nila.

      • IsipPinoy

        It’s good that you recognize na ang paggamit ng contraceptives ay personal choice. The catholic church can encourage its members to not use contraceptives but it cannot interfere in the govt’s policy-making process. Yung mga galamay ng simbahan sa Congress at Senate are trying to legislate not based on the Constitution but based on their religious beliefs and that is wrong.

      • etomacq

        so it’s up to every individual which one to follow.. the church or the gov’t… it’s a freedom.

        Again, we are a FREE country.. each and everyone of us has the freedom to choose.

        opinyon mo yan.. may kalayan ka kung saan ka papanig.

        respetuhin mo ang pagpili mo at respetuhin mo rin ang pipiliin nila.

      • tarikan

        Pag walang makain hihingi ng pagkain kay God! Hindi nagtatrabaho, dasal laang ng dasal para magkaroon ng pagkain. Buti na laang hindi ako si god, pagtatadyakan ko kayo diyan. Kasta ng kasta, anak ng anak hindi naman pala kayang pakainin, sa akin pa hihingi ng pagkain. Mga tinamaan ng lin..TIK. Paminsanminsan mag-jakol na laang kayo. Parang mga rabbit SuSMaRyOseP.

      • etomacq

        halatang mga followers ni Nonoy mas madami mga bastos at walang modo.. pinapakita nyo lang kung anong klase talaga ang mga followers ni NOy.. Wala kayo pinagkaiba ng Idol nyo.

      • tarikan

        UNA my friend UNA. Diehard ako kela Erap at Jojo, kahit na ba plunderer at yung isa kurap daw sa Makati. Sila PNoy wala yan mga takot magnakaw hehehe. Takot nga patule lol.

      • etomacq

        kalokohan pinagsasabi mo.. talamak parin ang mga korap sa gobyerno ng idol mo.

      • Edmund Labuguen

        sige humayo kayo at magpakarami.. hanggang nakatayo na lang ang bawat tao sa mundo dahil wala ng bakanteng lupa..

      • etomacq

        kahit meron o walang RH law nasatao pa rin ang desisyon kung gusto nila madami anak or konti lang. karapatan nila yon.

      • etomacq

        Wag ka mag alala, patay ka na bago mangyari yan..

      • Edmund Labuguen

        yes, patay na tayo…

      • etomacq

        correct.. kaya wag mo na problemahin yun..

      • Eugene De Ocampo

        oo sinabi yun sa biblia pero sa panahon na kakaunti pa ang mga tao sa panahon na yun, noon marami pa ang makakain pero kokonti pa ang mga kakain sa ngayon marami na ang kakain pero konti lang ang pagkain

      • etomacq

        Ganyan talaga iniisip ng mga walang tiwala sa Diyos..

  • Spartacus

    God cried tears of shame thats why there was rain. He was ashamed these idiots are his followers. How backwards naman these people.

    • Michael Mallari

      You have nerve to MENTION GOD… and call the PEOPLE OF GOD IDIOT WHILE they work hard for the LIFE of the likes of you.. LOOK AT YOU NOW.. you are poor….yet, your parents choose to give birth to you!!! If there is an RH Bill.. sana wala ka na ngayon…….. THE DECISION TO MAKE LIFE…. is FOR GOD ALONE … not for anyone…. SO WHO IS IDIOT??? are you saying,you are more matalino then GOD? shame on you!!!

      • Derek

        You have nerve mentioning God. There, I fixed it for you. You really do have nerve to scare people with God. Shame on you. I don’t think you actually took the teachings of the Bible to heart. Bigot

  • mangtom

    To he1l with the Team Damaso.

    • Michael Mallari

      go with your team…. you dont read your history… you dont know much about the country.. and here you are… making comments with out substance… you dont even know who is Padre Damaso in Jose Rizal novel…. tsk…. what a pity…

      • Derek

        Uhm… Hello? Your comment is contradicting itself. Idiot
        Get your facts straight before commenting.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        i think he is trying for the world record in downs. must be a priest

  • TinimbangNgunitKulang

    The Philippine Catholic church is sick, very sick. Not even Pope Francis can cure it.

    • Michael Mallari

      Yes.. indeed.. the Philippine Catholic Church is sick for allowing RH bill to pass… and with the likes of you and those proponents of RH Bill.. it seems that we are going to encounter more problem in the future… for we have voted against the will of GOD… naging mas marunong pa tayo, at kinontra natin ang will of GOD by promoting the use of condom et al…. what a waste of life.. tsk… ALL I CAN SAY.. sana may RH bill na nuong araw.. para sana, di na pinganak ang mga PRO RH BILL ngayon!!!!

      • Yusuke Zenkibuta

        Very contradicting ang stand no sister. Kala ko ayaw mo sa RH e bakit mo pa naisip na sana nun pa nagkaroon ng RH. And to think na pro life and stand mo but then pro life ka lng now but not before since you wish it was there before. Tsk tsk. Nagiging selective ang application mo ng logic. And to think you would want RH if it benefits you, in this case death to the proponents of RH before they are even born

      • Derek

        The problems today weren’t there back then. Think will you? God’s will is to be known for us to chose freely to be saved or not. He gave you free will to choose. Now think about forcing people to chose against their opinion. Isn’t that against the Bible? Think about it. Bigot

      • Jay Ann

        RH Bill ka ng RH bill, bibil bilin kita e. Wala nang bill, law na ito, naipasa na. Wag ka ngang tanga. Bago ka makipag debate sa publiko, ayusin mo muna argumento mo.

      • JOHNCeneza

        Kung may RH law noong araw, E wala nang gagawa ng RH bill ngayon kasi may law na db.

  • jorgii0550

    pati mga pari sa Pinas power hungry narin at corrupt….pweee!

    • Michael Mallari

      is it them.. or is it you? do you really understand the consequences of the RH Bill ? yes, perhaps, to you sex is nothing… but to GOD sex is a gift for couple….. and the productive process is the instrument of GOD to have more siblilngs…. GOD provide us the period of fertility and non-fertility.. and yet here the likes of you.. MAS MARUNONG PA KAYO AND YOU ARE SAYING THAT GOD IS WRONG.. and so here you create your own fertility PERIOD…. if you have GOD… shame on you…

      • jorgii0550

        Do you think the Catholic church who is a haven of pedophiles and a known protector of Priest who sexually molest children speak the word of God?

        Do you see how many hungry and neglected children the Philippines have mostly from poor and uneducated parents? does the Catholic church have any solution or ways to help them?

        Your one of those hypocrite Christians , those “banal na aso, santong kabayo “

      • Ayumi Water

        Actually ang tanong para sa kanya ay: Do you think? Do you see? Rhetorical questions obviously LOL.

      • etomacq

        Does RH Law speak the word of GOD? hungry children, poor familes and uneducated parents were also neglected by the government.

        tell me, how sure are you that you don’t belong to the hypocrite christian?

      • jorgii0550

        RH law is man made law to lessen the poverty of the people, nobody said its the word of God.

        I don’t go around preaching the word of God, quoting verses from the bible or even go to church regularly. One can say I’m not a good Christian and perhaps they are right but for sure I’m not a hypocrite.

      • etomacq

        So what do you preach?? the words of Noynoy?

        I guess, for you… Noy is more important than GOD who created you.

      • Derek

        Using God to threaten people into rejecting their own opinions which they FREELY chose to believe in is somewhat against the Bible isn’t it? Think about it. Bigot

      • brunogiordano

        “MARUNONG PA KAYO AND YOU ARE SAYING THAT GOD IS WRONG.. and so here you
        create your own fertility PERIOD…. if you have GOD… shame on
        you…”

        Salita ng isang tunay na RELIGIOUS SCAMMER gamit ang diyos sa panloloko ng GULLIBLE na mga tao.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        the priests really took advantage that gift raping children as young as 3 years old. they didnt have to worry about fertility.when committing sodomy. in 22 countries according to a vatican investigation priests were raping nuns so were forced to use the pill and others when the got pregnant the priests forced them to have abortions i of the ones who died the priest did her funeral how touching. after the investigation the nuns were sent home in disgrace some of whom killed themselves. the priests business as usual.. there was no same on them.go to google and type in priests raping nuns philippnies because this was one of the 22 countries. anyway with the churches double standards preach to yourself

    • etomacq

      hindi lang pari.. pati mga pastor din ng ibat ibang relihiyon.

    • etomacq

      nahawa na sa mga opisyal ng gobyerno..

  • ruben_bush

    pro-life ba yan si gringo honasan??? daming pinatay niyan noong coup d’etat, daming tinorture at si-nalvage niyan at ng RAM tulad ni Olalia at Lean Alejandro. si mitos magsaysay, pro-life din ba yan, eh all out support yan kay GMA na nagnakaw ng kamal kamal na salapi ng bayan kaya’t daming naghirap, daming nagutom, daming namatay…. pro life?????

    • Michael Mallari

      I am not pro-honassan…. pero alam mo ba ang sinasabi mo??? sino ang pinatay niya nuong Coup de Etat… ??? when he rebel against Marcos.. bida siya sa inyo.. when he rebel against Cory.. kontrabida na.. at masamang tao…. but do tell me.. did you read your WWII history… may isang pinoy duon na kilalang kilala ang lahi.. read about him…. then, compare him about honassan….. and tell me, what is the diffirence betweeh them two…. i bet… you dont know the guy.. simple because you dont know your history… and here you.. takakatkaktak… dada ng dada… wala ng naman alam…. =(

      • Michael Mallari

        and about GMA.. i dont like the lady.. much more, i hate Corona so much, ang yabang yabang kasi nuon… but then… hindi lahat na kaanib ni Gloria nuon ay masama… if i use your logic.. then what about Bam Aquino??? di ba campaign manager ata siya or something ni GMA? why not attack him as well… tsk……. please… know more about your fact before you talk.. ok ?

      • ernievictory

        BAM , campaign manager ni GMA ? anu ka , hibang ? check yr facts !

      • speaksoftlylove

        Actually his father Paul Aquino was the point man and campaign manager of GMA.

        Of course, with his father’s connection, Bam Aquino became member of the Youth Commission during GMA and stuck to his post even after the Hello Garci scandal and until the end of GMA’s term. He did not resign obviously because of the perks of the position. Therefore, Bam Aquino’s record is of course, a loyal subordinate of the previous administration.

        So, if you are basing your decision to vote Bum Aquino on his previous record, then vote for him at all cost.

      • etomacq

        Cory and GMA were allies before.. The Aquinos withdrew their alliance with GMA when Gloria ordered the SC to revive the Hacienda Luisita case.

      • http://www.facebook.com/garcia.johnny Johnny Garcia

        the withdrawal was caused by the emergence of the hello garci tapes which showed gma cheated the 2004 elections!

      • etomacq

        Was GMA under LP during 2004 elections? So ho do you think manipulated the election? is the ruling party then?

      • Derek

        “you are just a noise” You’re nothing but noise. I fixed that for you. bigot

      • The Overlord

        You tell us to check our facts but you go tell us that “Bam was Gloria’s campaign manager”? Hahahaha! Talk about irony! You’re shooting yourself in the foot. You seem more confused than you really are. Do yourself a favor and brush up on your history yourself.

      • josh_alexei

        And you HATE Corona and for all the Sins created, Hatred is the mother of them all…It was hatred that started the Second WW and the Holocaust..It was hatred that led Pol Pot to kill millions of his own country men by the millions and the Hatred between Hutu and the Tutsi saw the internecine between these Two People…Take away hatred from your mentality and eventually you liberate yourself from all the other sins. And by the way, in the town where I live, the only Criminal limitation to our Freedom of Expression is to Publicly promote Hatred, anything else you maybe sued for injury to feelings and reputations…Today, one of our townmates sue Posters anonymous (user names) for their comments in the internet that were not True and cause embarrassment to His family and to other parties…His lawyers and the courts will find ways to identify the posters and the commenters and They will.

      • ayupayupan77

        di ka n ga pro honasan pero pro DAMASO ka

      • kokak

        .
        50 civilians were killed during Gringo’s 1989 coup. A dozen or so civilian, whose only mistake was to cheer for Cory out in the streets, were directly gunned down by Gringo’s forces.
        .

      • juanpedro de jose

        sister yan ba ang mga salita na nababasa mo sa bibliya.. lol…!

      • kumilos_tayo

        Iha wag ka lang magsalita kasi lalong hindi mo alam ang sinasabi mo..

  • http://www.facebook.com/lfosilla Leonardo F. Osilla

    “RAIN DID NOT STOP THEM FROM CONVERGING IN THE PUBLIC PLAZA”. Oh yes indeed, because nothing can ever stop the craziest fanatic hordes of Padre Damaso. They are so dumb, exposing their selves to the elements and eventually getting sick, while their Padre Damasos are enjoying the comforts of their ornamented churches.. It’s so sad that while these people are perhaps mostly not belonging to the well-to-dos, and that most possibly belong to those that labors to earn a living, missing a day’s work means so much to have a decent food on the table for the family. Of course the Padre Damasos know this, but they don’t care, they just care to show to the world that they have their “DUMB FLOCK OF SHEEPS” that sheepishly follows what the church says.

    • Crazy_horse101010

      wonder how much money and food they got.for being there.

  • hustlergalore

    nakakademonyo ang mga katolikong kaparian!

  • joshmale2004

    We are a democratic country and every one has the right to express himself. The Catholic priests are just exercising this right. But whether, their cause will have an effect as to their candidates making the magic 12 remains to be seen.

  • Jose Guevarra

    the catholic church has better criteria to base its endorsements of senatorial candidates than just the RH Law. why not base it on whether these candidates really desire to serve the people? why not base it on whether the candidates are running simply to perpetuate themselves and their kin in power? dami-daming pwedeng maging basehan ng endorsements yun pang hindi naman dapat ang pinagbabatayan. better yet, the catholic church in the philippines would better serve the people by getting the H-E-L-L out f politics!

    • hustlergalore

      all or nothing. criteria: rh bill. no values are considered.

      LOL

    • Derek

      endorse pro-creation among the poor? No please, being born into poverty is hard enough. Think about it, their parents are poor, their parents’ parents were poor. did they study much? I don’t think they did that a lot. Only a few did, but what about the rest? So what do they do on their free time? They seek pleasure. Pleasure and happiness can be a bi-product of a good deed or a devious sin. Now devious sins are the mainstay of the poor, they didn’t really grow up in a cultures environment. They’re dying of diseases that could have been easily cured. Their children die a few years after birth, a few months even, for those who had complications in delivery. Sad. Now all these can and will be covered by the RH Law. Think of it this way, do rich people have 5 kids on average? Nope, how about the poor? So, this focuses on the poor so that they can have better lives. If morals can’t change that now, then action should.

      • Tyril

        Wow, and your claiming that not passing the RH bill will change the morals of society? It seems that no matter what we do, the trend of increasing sexual promiscuity will always increase.

      • Derek

        You should look around at night more. Jeez, I didn’t say that this will change morals. You should probably finish reading the comment first.

      • etomacq

        yes they have 5 kids or maybe more if you would include their illegitimate children.. in tagalog yun mga anak sa labas ng mga richmen.

        Parang sinabi mo na walang karapatan mag parami ang mga mahihirap dahil sila ay mahirap..

      • JOHNCeneza

        Its not a question of right, nor its a question of morality, but its the question of the paramount interest of the child, will a child born into a large family with low resources be able live a better life? Or will he be subject to early child labor like begging in the street, picking up recyclable materials to sell or worst learn to steal.
        The poor should be pro-active in planning for thier families hoping that the next generation can rise above poverty, because the traditional filipino family model of more children so that they may help the parents in the farm no longer applies, therefore the poor should adjust accordingly, one of those adjustment is to have a smaller family.

      • etomacq

        I do not agree that RH law is the answer to solve poverty.

        Even if they have a small family but still their parents are jobless they will remain poor.

      • JOHNCeneza

        It may not be the answer but it would help reduce the burden. Let us look at this way, Imagine a small family vs a big family whose parents are jobless. which do you think will have a harder time? If ever a parent from both family will eventually find job, which do you think will provide more for each of the children?

        Besides, unemployment is also due to our overpopulation. Why? Employers can only employ limited number of workers, that is the reality. If you are the employer, would you hire more than what you need? of course not, doing business is about the reward of profit, if you cannot profit, then why do business. If no business, not work creation. Wages are also subject to the law of supply and demand. if more workers are competing for the same jobs, employers will just give them minimum wage since if you don’t like it, he/she will give it others. on the other hand, with lower population, employers compete for limited amount of workers, what more can attract workers than in increasing wages. That is whats happening in developed nations with low population growth. They have fewer people thus higher wages, unfortunately also has a higher standard of living, because higher wages results in more expensive products. This is the reality of our society, and instead of complaining to the government about this and about that, the question shall be what can you do to compete in this society. If you can compete with a large family, then why not. But sadly, most large family can’t, so the solution shall be plan your family from the start.

      • etomacq

        I agree that it would help the burden of the poor family. Still, it is not the answer to escape poverty.

        I think Philippines is not over populated.

        Why are those people poor? because they don’t have jobs.. Why are they joblesss? because they lack education.

        Some college graduates also belong to the poor.. why? because they cannot find a job.. because we only have limited employers here in our country.

        So I guess the real cause of poverty is lack of education, being jobless or no source of income.

        So having a big family is not really the root of poverty.

      • JOHNCeneza

        i beg to disagree. But let just us say that you are right, there is no overpopulation yet, then when shall do something about our population growth? when we have completely wipeout out rainforest forest cover? or when we have eaten all the fish in the sea? or when we have built houses on every square inch of our land? or when we no longer have farmlands since they are already converted to houses? or when we start rationing food? by that time it might be too late. family planning is planning for the future. its effect cannot be felt right now but in the future.

        Ok they lack education, why? because our population is exponentially increasing, our government is already allocating 40% of our national budget to education but its still not enough. year after year increasing amount of enrollees overwelmed our school system. the government can only provide basic education not quality education since there will be lack of teachers and classrooms, we even hire those undesirable teachers just so there will be teachers in the classrooms. some complain that teachers wages are low, well we cannot do anything about it since gov’t resources are spread too thin.

        I admit that government resources could have been properly utilized without corruption and we the citizens should find solution to stump out corruptions. But for now we need to do something that would help decrease the burden of our limited budget, and let us not wait for the gov’t to solve corruption before finding solution on education

        We have limited employers.. May I ask you, how can we increase the number of our employers? they just don’t pop out of the ground overnight. The government can’t really hire more people unless we live in a socialist/communist society. So how can you become a private employer? Only business provide jobs, then how can we become businessmen? first we need capital, we need to save. but since most people have big family, only few can save enough to start a business. Of those who can start a business, only few succeed since if you have big family, your expenses eat up your capital. So without capital, no business, no business, no job.
        Let us stop pointing out the obvious. We know that we lack education and we know we need jobs. But instead of just saying provide education or provide job, try to think about how its gonna be implemented. Provide solutions not suggestions.

      • etomacq

        The President assigns a person in every department of the government to do their duties and solve the country’s problem.

        The President pay advisers who can give advise what is good for the country. We ordinary Filipinos, our duty is to pay our taxes. More taxes more funds for every gov’t dep’t.

        Instead of blaming the poor, the gov’t should work for the people. We work and pay taxes to them so they should work for us.

        More foreign investors means more jobs and more tax collections.

        More tax collections means more funds for every gov’t projects.

        More funds means more Filipino people will benefit.

        A country’s progress really depends on it’s leader and how he runs the gov’t.

        Corrupt gov’t would only lead a country to poverty.

      • JOHNCeneza

        Yah the President assigns people to solve our countries problem, and they came up with the RH Law. They realized that our country will be overwelm in the future if we cannot arrest this problem right now. Now people who opposed the RH Law is actively undermining Government’s plans without even suggesting a better effective plan. If they don’t like what is in the RH Law, then should they make something that will be more effective to solve the population probem that will make the RH Law obsolete. If not, don’t hold the government’s initiative into status quo. John F Kennedy once said: Ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country.

        We are not blaming the poor, we are showing the poor that there is another way if your way doesn’t work. Aside from paying our taxes we shall help the poor help themselves out of poverty so they can also pay their taxes.

        Attracting foreign investors is not for long term development. We have no control over them, if they pull-out, then we shall be left with an empty plate. Let us develop our own. Let us not be just workers until we die but businessmens to help our country grow. Let us be middle class not lower class.

        Actually, a country’s progress depends upon its people. Without helping them lift from the ashes of poverty, we shall never be progressive. We can elect leader upon leaders, but until we learn how to help ourselves we are just servants of those leaders.

        Again i agree that corruption is one the problem that prevent aide to the poor. but if the poor shall be given a chance to rise despite the corruption, then in the future, it would be easier for the citizenry to control corruption since with many rising from poverty, they shall be better educated thus knows their rights more.

        Also, we cannot just tell the government that heres your taxes, so make solution but your only limited to this and that. If we don’t like what the gov’t is doing make and suggest other solution that is effective. There’s another saying that two(or more) heads are better than one. if the whole philippines is doing the thinking, the more effective the solution will be.

      • jcsantos

        “Instead of blaming the poor, the gov’t should work for the people. We work and pay taxes to them so they should work for us.”

        – This is incorrect. The Philippines is a DEMOCRATIC country, which gives its people more FREEDOM that other countries that rule based on dictatorship or communism. With freedom comes RESPONSIBILITY.

        Also, how do we know if even majority of tax collections go to projects for the nation or to politicians’/government workers’ pockets? We have had virtually non-existent checks on any specific politician or government office regarding such crimes, thus giving them more reason to steal what should be for the people. The government, despite the “Daang Matuwid”, has ceased checking such corruption and has instead resorted to punishing tax “evaders” especially those who are actually paying legitimately.

      • etomacq

        so corruption is the real root of our country’s fall and not the poor people…

        the gov’t’s responsibility is to do something good for the people.

        The gov’t. should serve and protect it’s citizen.
        .
        As a citizen, we have a responsibility to elect our representatives in government and hold them accountable for the security and governing of the nation.

        correct. The Go’vt punishes tax evaders… but do they punish corrupt gov’t officials?. here in the Philippines it is very common for the gov’t. to accuse their political enemies of corruption while protecting their own corrupt officials.. that’s the reason why corruption is not totally wiped out until now..

      • jcsantos

        While true that the government’s purpose is to serve the people, in a democratic country, the government has very limited powers as compared to dictator or communist governments, precisely because the people have more FREEDOM. It is the people’s own initiative to do whatever they can to uplift their own lives. Each and every citizen must do whatever they can, not only just electing proper officials, but to do what they can do with their freedom, either to properly benefit themselves or the nation. It is sheer waste of this given freedom if people choose to abuse it instead of using it for good.

      • etomacq

        So it is our freedom to choose how many children we want.

        Having big family is not a criminal act.

        So RH law is useless because it cannot force the people to have 2 or 3 children only, it is against our freedom…. the freedom to choose.

      • jcsantos

        Where in RH law does it state that you are REQUIRED to have only 2 or 3 children? I never read anything there that punishes couples that have 3+ children. It only provides options for couples to LIMIT their children however they want, and if they choose NOT to take advantage of it, it is their RIGHT to not use it and they can continue doing so regardless of what other couples choose to do with it. How does this limit our freedom?

      • etomacq

        Limit thier children for however they want??? SO what’s the use of the RH law if the couple wants to limit their children to 7 or higher?

        So what is the use in creating this law if the people chooses to snub it?

        A useless law?

      • etomacq

        with or without the RH law couples have the right to choose how many children they would like to have… so this RH law is meaningless since it does not enforce any couple to use contraceptives.

        A law that cannot be enforced is a useless law.

      • jcsantos

        I read 2 replies from you but I can only view 1 at a time. Consider this as my reply to both.

        Did you even read COMPLETELY what I posted or were you more comfortable NITPICKING words from it?

        RH Law provides OPTIONS for couples who want to limit their number of children, as well as EDUCATION for them on how to manage their number of children. You do NOT call it “useless” or “meaningless” if you yourself choose NOT to take advantage of it. There will be others who WILL use such services, but you do not DENY them their rights to use them just because you do not believe in it.

      • etomacq

        I am talking about RH LAW..

        Pls don’t confuse yourself.

        Again, as what you’ve said… we have the options to choose, then what is the use of the RH law? it’s the RH law that i called useless. Why? Because with or without the RH law we still have the option to choose.

        I hope you would now understand what I’m trying to elaborate.

      • jcsantos

        RH Law will provide MORE options. I hope I made the correct emphasis this time.

      • etomacq

        FREEDOM to choose to have a big or small family…

      • ayupayupan77

        remove false religion in phillipines…………….what is the religion of most piliticians in the philippines………………..if their religion is doing their work properly………….those politicians should be doing better……………..kung ano puno sya ang bunga………………kung masama ang bunga ( miyembro) malamang masama ang puno( relihiyon)…….imagine mula sa pagkabata kung naturuaan ka lang ng mabuti ng iyong ministro o pastor o pari……………di sana lalaki kang tapat at may takot sa Dios…………….the mitsubishops supported GMA also the INCM……………..what is their basis of morality then……………

      • etomacq

        So hindi ka masamang tao kasi hindi ka catholic? ano ba ang tamang religion para sayo?

      • ayupayupan77

        religion is a personal relationship with God……………..CHRISTIAN……yes

      • etomacq

        There is no true religion.. religions are invented by humans.

        ikaw lumaki ka ba ng tapat at may takot sa Diyos?

      • jcsantos

        I have to disagree here on your reason on “why people don’t have jobs”

        In the first place, the mentality of the poor is to leave the heavy responsibilities, the risky propositions to others, and those who do take on them are the entrepreneurs that hire them. The reason why there is a lack of jobs is because there aren’t many job slots in the first place, because there are not enough companies to accommodate every single person who chose to look for jobs rather than start their own business. Some people who became successful businessmen were themselves without degrees, even without capital, and yet they took the risks and made the effort to do something different that in turn made them succeed in the end.

        It is NOT education that inhibits people from becoming successful: it is their MENTALITY.

        If only more people decided to create their own businesses, take more responsibility and make more effort that we can create even more companies, thus more jobs for everyone.

      • etomacq

        Tell me how a poor and uneducated person could start a business?

      • jcsantos

        A high school student living at the bottom of the poverty level in Africa built his own windmill out of junkyard scraps based on free information from his public library. His family not only has free electricity but also additional income from selling extra to neighbors. What’s your excuse?

      • etomacq

        did the boy became rich???

      • jcsantos

        He UPLIFTED himself so much from his position that he has a better life than most in his neighborhood. Does that answer your question? Or do you require that he becomes Bill Gates-rich before you accept that fact that MENTALITY, not riches or circumstances that lead people to become better men?

        “To h*ll with circumstances; I create opportunities.” – Bruce Lee

      • etomacq

        ok, since you kept saying it is about MENTALITY.. how can you help them enhance their poor mentality?

        Have you tried meddling with the poor and discussing with them about your opinion?

      • jcsantos

        It’s up to them whether or not they have the mentality to become successful or not. No matter how much they are being influenced by others, if they lack the mentality to proceed, then nothing comes to fruition anyway. Mentality is a test of CHARACTER. Man is given the capabilities to do virtually an unlimited number of things, but he’d personally believe he can do NOTHING if he truly believes so, and vice versa.

        I’ve tried talking with some of them. I even gave away some free entrepreneurial ideas that they can take advantage of, simple ones that they can easily do by using what they already have and what was around them. What’s their common response? “Mahirap eh.” “Di ako sigurado.” “Baka malugi pa ako.” and so many other excuses. And yet they keep asking why their lives aren’t improving.

      • etomacq

        Let us say most of the poor people lack mentality.. do you think they would still be successful in life?

      • jcsantos

        Of course not (let’s count out those who “inherited” success). Mentality is what DRIVES them to become better, decent people, whether in work, in family, and in life in general. Rich people, especially those who came from the poverty line, become even richer precisely because they retain the same mentality they had that made them rich in the first place. Those who fall from the rich class would either let the circumstances change them or continue to work harder to bounce back, the latter usually becoming successful again. Note that success is relative to each and every person, and that what is considered successful to them before may not be their criteria anymore today ie. Before: become rich, Today: become a priest.

        ALL our actions have consequences, and actions are influenced by our mentality. Our mentality ultimately shapes the way we think, the way we act, and ultimately how our lives will be lived. Mentality is a CHOICE, and people are always free to choose to retain it or to change it.

      • etomacq

        So who do you think would most likely to succeed in life.. a person without proper education but has a good mentality or a person with proper education?

      • jcsantos

        You know my answer to that. For once, observe your surroundings and look at what’s obvious. Read about successful people from all walks of life, especially those who’ve come from poor or unfortunate backgrounds. Just by simply looking HOW they lived their lives can you tell what the common factor is among them. In fact, you have direct access to information right now via the internet if you’re able to post here.

      • etomacq

        most people I knew who had a proper education were successful in life.. they are poor once, they strive hard to have proper education and they are now happy with their lives.

        So I chose proper education than poor education with good mentality..

        In my opinion proper education is the basic key to success.

      • jcsantos

        If they were successful, that means they had the mentality in the first place. You can’t insist that you can only get one of either: education OR mentality; they are NOT mutually exclusive. Education WILL help for those with mentality, but those with good mentality will NOT let a lack of education hinder them anyway. Like I said, there are people who’ve succeeded even without education or capital to begin with. Those who have education but lack good mentality anyway are doomed to fail in the end.

        You can get good education? Great! It will help you in the long run. Keep in mind though that you must have that healthy mentality in order to succeed and survive in this world, otherwise all that tuition will amount to nothing.

      • etomacq

        well i respect your opinion.. but the truth is, most successful businessmen here in the Philippines had proper education. I’ve never heard of a Filipino millionaire or billionaire who did not have proper education.

      • jcsantos

        The key word you gave there is “MOST successful businessmen” meaning there are those who did succeed without proper education. Also note that some of those educated businessmen also had to scrap their way just to pay their tuitions, meaning some of those educated businessmen were also poor either before or during their studies.

        Remember that mentality and education are NOT mutually exclusive; people can have BOTH if they could. Some used their willpower to get their own education despite the odds and used their education to become successful, while a few others went on to become successful even without education.

      • etomacq

        yes I said “MOST”.. it means “MAJORITY”

        by saying “FEW others went on to become successful even without education”… you’ve only proven that I am correct.

        MOST successful business men are properly educated and only FEW others went on to become successful without education.

      • jcsantos

        What we’ve been discussing here is mentality but you went on to emphasize that education is important, so how about this common ground:

        Education can help greatly in achieving success for a person, and a person who wills himself to succeed should be able to find their way to acquire that education. Such a person does NOT find excuses and just gets it done: get education through his most creative way and then goes on to succeed in life not only using his willpower but also the education he got along the way.

        Any disagreements here?

      • ayupayupan77

        most catholic countries are poor………..what do you think they have in common………..?

      • etomacq

        ano ano bang bansa sa europe ang mahirap kasi catholic???

      • ayupayupan77

        i said most………i didnt say only in europe…………….by the way italy where you will find rome…………….condoms and pills where allowed since 1960s…………..ano pinagkaiba ng pagiging katoliko na nasa italya at pagiging katoliko na nasa pilipinas…………..hmmmmmmmmm?

      • etomacq

        puro ka pa palusot.. di dun ka tumira sa italy.. wala naman pumipigil sayo.

      • brunogiordano

        “Parang sinabi mo na walang karapatan mag parami ang mga mahihirap dahil sila ay mahirap..”

        ang mga mahihirap ay may karapatan din huwag dumami ang kanilang mga anak kung may access sila sa libreng CONTRACEPTIVES at CONDOMS. Ito ay hindi dapat ipagkait sa kanila ng mga maka-DAMASO.

      • etomacq

        May karapatan pala ang mahihirap na mamili kung gagamit sila ng contraceptives o hindi e bakit galit na galit ka sa catholics?

        Ano ba religion mo?

        So ang RH law ay bale wala kung ayaw din gumamit ng mga mahihirap ng contraceptives.. sayang lang ang bilyong pondo na nilaan dyan ng gobyerno. Kumita lang ang mga supplier ng mga yan.

    • Uwe24

      Hi Jose,
      the catholic church never will ask for that, since then people might start to ask themselves if the church supports them, too! Imagine, they even ask for pay if get married, if you bring your child for baptismal, if the priest comes to celebrate mass in the company etc.. Always it’s a question of pera!

      So even the RH bill, that might lessen the poverty if it’s properly executed would serve the people. But, because of the church sees it’s influence dwindling they oppose it by all means, even way beyond ratio.

      No wonder, that they still get supporters: The majority of there followers are those with lack or no education at all. This people believe in superstition and not ratio. So the influence of the church might go down in favor of starting people to begin thinking. As the education rate starts to climb the people get more aware of misdeeds. So they would start memorize that there were SUV-bishops, who violated even themselves the word of Jesus, that there are feisty clerics sitting at opulently meals while there flock starves, that there are priests asking for fee when baptising children of the poorest!
      So, who supports the people? BUHAY list? The church?

      I fully agree with you: Politics and church have strictly to be kept apart!
      SHUT UP with your recommendations, priests or you are not better than the vote buyers among the politicians!

    • etomacq

      Catholics are pro-life, that’s why they are against RH law.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        the catholic church is pro money that is why they are against the rh law. no babies no money. people are just like sheep to be sheared. if there wasnt money in divorce or birth control you wouldnt hear a peep out of them. how else did the vatican become the only rich cathoilc country in the world where the people live like kings while the rest are third world countries. how did the vatican get rich they dont make or grow anything. the whole thing is a scam involving greed and power. birth control wasnt even officially denounced by a pope until the 1930s.

      • etomacq

        tell me a religion that is not accepting money and contribution and
        may i know what is your religion?

      • Crazy_horse101010

        i dont belong to a church but im christian i dont need someone to lead me around by the nose and i know how to read. i am baptized as a catholic but after the lies about baby rapers i left. and if the protestants are collecting all that money why are they ist world countries and the standard of living is much higher. example average wage philippines 2300 dollars a year. america 45000 dollars a year and their is countries that are higher and they arent catholic. what other chrurch has a 10000 room palace for their leader and the summer home is even bigger. why are thousands of good catholics risking their lives trying to get into america every year. you dont see mexico spending billions of dollars keeping americans out.. anymore questions?..

      • etomacq

        You should answer first your own question before asking for more questions from me.

        Anyways, i’ll answer you questions.

        No religion will last without money involve.

        Religion has nothing to do with a country’s progress. it is the gov’t who runs the economy. A corrupt gov’t will make a country poor.. less corruption will make a country progressive.

        Catholics or non catholics risk their lives coming to America because we all know that america is a rich country.

        only Iran and North Korea will spend billions just to kick out Americans..

      • Crazy_horse101010

        i answered your questions sorry you cant read but that is not my problem. when religion controls the government it controls the country period.. a corrupt religion that controls the country will make a country poor. the reason all them catholics are coming to america is because of over population and corruption. i have no church and i am lasting.. why are catholic countries so corrupt. why are countries like new zealiand sweden norway denmark among the least corrupt in the world. every where in latin america until recently the government was controlled by the church., and if the church hadnt controlled countries we wouldnt have had the inquisition. it was a papal bull that was responsible for the deaths of 150 million indians that was issued in 1493 by alexander the 6th. and dont call me a liar because that bull still exixts. the indians wanted it removed but john paul the second refused to.. .

      • Crazy_horse101010

        this was written to you by friedrich nietzsche people dont want to hear the truth. because they dont want their illusions destroyed

      • etomacq

        Everyone and every religion has it’s own illusions.. just like you.

      • ayupayupan77

        in some denominations their preacher has a job aside from preaching………..they could be teachers …..businessman…etc………comes sunday they do their obligation as preachers tending their flocks…………….your katolikbans depend solely on your collections( donasyon)…………..that explains they dont want ignoramus like you to dwindle in number

      • etomacq

        how bout your religion, san nyo dinadala donation nyo? sa pang araw araw ba na pagkain nyo? pambili mo ng mga gamit sa bahay?

      • etomacq

        You do the same… The number of your worshipers are nothing compared to the catholics. Magsalita ka pa sa mga bus, jeep at mga parke para makahikayat pa kayo.. people like you are the true ignoramus.. Pare parehas lang tayong mga sinners. wag kayo magmalinis.. mga bulaan!

      • ayupayupan77

        i beg t disagree……………most of those who are buying condoms and pills are CATHOLICS……………..80 percent of catholics want rH law implemented………..its only those KATOLIKBAN in robes ( who like young boys)………….are againts it……………the bible says umalis kayo sa masama at makisama sa mabuti ……………….if you think those maniacs are not masama………then i cant blame you for being sick

  • UrHONOR

    >>>Church flexes poll clout<<<

    FLEXES muscle for Pedophiia, Stealing, Lying, and Illicit sex among many, many others.

    Priest who had sex with boys now tells how to smuggle ivory

    National Geographic‘s new issue exposes the ivory business, which has been hiding in plain sight since a worldwide trade ban was enacted in 1989. And a major player in the magazine’s story is a priest in the Philippines whom I wrote about in 2005 when investigating another global-trafficking phenomenon — the Catholic Church’s movement of sexual abuse suspects across international borders to escape justice.

    The priest, Monsignor Cristobal Garcia, is now quoted as explaining how to smuggle ivory into the United States: “Wrap it in old, stinky underwear and pour ketchup on it.” And if an icon won’t fit in a suitcase? Here’s how National Geographic‘s Bryan Christy summarizes Garcia’s advice: “I might get a certificate from the National Museum of the Philippines declaring my image to be antique, or I could get a carver to issue a paper declaring it to be imitation or alter the carving date to before the ivory ban.”

    Garcia also made provocative comments when I interviewed him about why he fled the U.S. in 1985. He admitted having sex with altar boys and supplying them with drugs

    ==================================

    VIENNA—Austrian prosecutors on Tuesday charged a 79-year-old former priest of sexually abusing 15 students at a Benedictine monastery between 1973 and 1993

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    priest franco decaminada stole 5.1 million dollars from a catholic hospital . he had been stealing the workers wages for months they went to the vatican for help but it refused so they went to the police. 1500 peoples wages for 8 months. the hospital is now insolvent, this was in rome. this week cnn joseph gallagher and mark gaspar are 2 of 26 priest suspended after 2011 grand jury investigation into archdiese handling of sex abuse allegations this happened in penns. usa Sun star apr. 2 2013

    • hustlergalore

      Are you telling us that Catholic priests have no moral ascendancy whatsoever, even a bit? itsy bitsy bit? teeny weeny bit? zilch? nada? none? love? LOL

      • brunogiordano

        hindi lahat ng pari.

        subalit ang nakakaraming pari at obispong DAMASO have no moral ascendancy whatsoever.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        love of each other little boys and money lol

      • UrHONOR

        OK…..I maybe short of understanding what MORAL ASCENDANCY is all about. But in my own little way, I find it exceedingly difficult to find even a tad or a quark of morality on those entrusted to guard the coop only to discover that they themselves are the raiders of the coop. Put in another way, it is insane in toto to put one’s trust on the “loyalty” of a traitor. Redemption? Probably in the next life.

  • MANGLUCIO

    It’s common sense really on why the Catholic Church is against the RH bill. Why? Because they’re afraid that their flocks will dwindle in the years to come. Hence, less church goers to fill in their money bag.

    • Jeremiah_CheGuevara

      Babaw mo! Keep your shallowness to yourself….

    • ayupayupan77

      i agree kasi sa europa halos wala ng gustong magpari…….halos aalog alog nalang sila sa simbahan tuwing linggo

    • http://twitter.com/VlamDe ben de vlam

      As they are helping with raping young girls, to keep up the flock, this is the biggest problem in the church. They should keep their Willeys to them selfs, just monsters.

  • Eugene De Ocampo

    Romans 13 1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing. 7 Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.

    • Tyril

      Vox populi vox Dei – the voice of the people(the law) is the voice of God. Therefore we must respect the law.

  • Yusuke Zenkibuta

    The church should not endorse candidates on the sole basis of vote from RH. They must scrutinize the real motive and heart of these anti-RH candidates. Even those with darker motives like a devil can say he/she is pro-life. Why? the many people the more chance the devil can amass his army. The more to seduce! lolz. My point is don’t judge the candidates on a single issue. The catholic church must focus on enlightening the flock about the bad provisions of RH. I believe there are good and bad provisions in RH and it’s up to the church to point that out to the flock. It is already a law, the church just have to respect that. All they can do now is to make sure the bad side of the law is not followed by the flock

    • Concur_Dissent

      The Holy Bible tells us in Romans 13: 1-2

      “Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.”

      But some church leaders will not tell its members about this bible passage for they still insist that they are the right leaders for our country and the people should do what the church tells us to do? Whatever happened to freedom to chose?

      • Simplify1

        kahit na anong bible verse lagay mo dyan, maraming katoliko mas maniniwala sa sabi ni fader kesa mababasa nila ng sariling mata sa bibliya… tsk tsk tsk

      • Filpino

        hindi nga!

      • Eugene De Ocampo

        ibig sabihin yung mga pari ay hindi sumusunod sa hawak nyang Biblia at ang mga katoliko ay sa pare naniniwala at hindi sa Diyos at sa mga aral ng Diyos tsk tsk tsk

      • Simplify1

        sumusunod naman ang pari sa bibliya, pero susundin din ang sabi ng santo papa kahit na wala sa bibliya ang sinasabi…

      • Filpino

        So sa bible verses na na qoute mo, ang mga taong lumaban kay marcos, erap at GMA ay nagrebelde rin kay God habang sila ay nasa pwesto, tama ba?

      • Eugene De Ocampo

        Should we obey governments that are bad?

        Romans 13:1 says, “Let every person be in subjection
        to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and
        those which exist are established by God.” If this is so, what about the bad governments
        like the Nazis or the communist regimes where they killed millions? If
        God is the one who sets up governments, are we supposed to obey those bad
        governments?

        The answer is no.

        We are to obey governments unless they violate
        Scripture. Acts 5:29 says,”We must obey God
        rather than men.” Whenever
        a government violates biblical teaching, Christians are obligated to disobey
        that government. For example, if a government were to declare that we
        should kill all Asians, or immigrants, or people with Down’s syndrome, we
        should disobey. Governments are run by people and often become
        corrupt. Furthermore, the Bible never tells us to obey governments in
        contradiction to the revealed word of God.

        In the Old Testament, God sent the Israelites
        to destroy different nations. Technically speaking, we could say that God
        set up those various governmental systems that he told the Israelites to
        destroy. But when systems become ungodly and anti-Christian, they are no
        longer properly representing God and should not be obeyed.

        Are we seeing a conflict or a
        contradiction? Not at all. Let’s take, for example, Exodus
        20, where we see two commandments: obey your parents and do not murder.
        We can see that our parents are the authorities above us, even as governments
        are, and we should obey them. But, what should we do it our parents tell
        us to murder someone? Should we obey? Of course not. Obedience to
        our parents is only proper when it’s consistent with the rest of the
        Scriptures. Likewise, submission to the governmental systems is only
        proper when it is consistent with Scripture.

        Finally, let’s look at Rom. 13:6-7, “For because of this you also pay
        taxes, forrulers are servants of God, devoting themselves to this
        very thing. 7 Render to all what is due them: tax to whom
        tax is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to
        whom honor.” Notice that Paul says
        that the rulers are servants of God. This is the context of the
        submission that is mentioned at the beginning of the chapter. If these
        rulers are no longer servants of God, and if they contradict Scripture, they
        are not to be obeyed.

      • rinom

        when the kingdom of the son of solomon become wicked in the sight of God, God rises a kingdom that is more wicked than them (the babelon) and destroyed them and some of them was held captive, one of them is daniel.

      • Simplify1

        Your problem is your propensity to quote the bible but putting your quote out of context…. in your ACTS 5:29, the apostles were talking to the high priests who forbade them to preach about Jesus… this had nothing related to the government which was Roman at that time…. The apostles and the high priests were debating religious teachings and not about being rebels to the romans! Ang layo mo!

        In your Exodus 20 naman you did not only take out of context the teachings of the 10 commandments, you also bastardized it! How could you compare rebelling against God’s law with rebelling against a human law? apples and oranges yan bata… All human laws have their adherents and non-adherents, while God’s law is ABSOLUTE. In short, hindi mo pwedeng sabihin na you will follow the 5th commandment but will not follow the 6th commandment…. Sa RH law, kung gusto mo gumamit ng condom gamitin mo, kung ayaw mo e di wag, di ba?

        Kahit na mag karoon tayo ng same sex marriage na batas, this law will not make us any worse as Christians… Kahit na approved yan ng lahat ng congressmen at lahat ng senators, Hindi pa rin ako magaasawa ng BAKLA! Kahit na rin legalized ang abortion, hindi pa rin ako mag PAPAABORT. Kahit na legalized na ang divorce, hindi ako makikipag DIVORCE! KASI, NANINIWALA AKONG ANG KASAL AY SA ISANG BABAE AT ISANG LALAKI, NA ANG FETUS AY ISANG BUHAY NA NILALANG, NA ANG KASAL AY SAGRADO NA DI DAPAT MAG DIVORCE!!

        Finally, in your Roman 13:6-7 naman, you should realize that Jesus’ teachings about giving to ceasar what is ceasar’s, relate to payment of taxes which is a fundamental function exclusive only to the state and not a religious exercise…. Back then, even Jesus believes that there should be a separation of church and state! Collecting taxes is an exclusive function of government and not a religious exercise…..creating laws for the land is the exclusive function of government and the church should not get involved in it, in as much as the church should not get involved in taxation! Plain and simple…

      • rinom

        God is in control, God is in command, God is all powerful and he can do whatever he wants, what if during the edsa revolution he used people to do that, i mean God can put that feeling in our hearts to do that, whether you are a soldier, a priest, a teacher, a politician etc.etc.

      • Simplify1

        Panahon ng martial law,kahit na masama dapat sundin, pero noong nagka election na nandaya siya na malinaw na malinaw na ni isa mang bansang banyaga ay hindi kinilala ang pagkapanalo ni marcos, dapat lang na tanggalin siya!

        Si Erap kahit na bobo, talagang dapat sundin pero noong nag nanakaw na ng limpak pimpak na salapi ng tao na malinaw din ang pag kagarapal, tama lang na tanggalin ng masa

        Si GMA, kasalan nya yung pandaraya sa election tulad ni marcos at kasalan din nya ang naging sala ni erap sa pag nakaw ng kaban ng bayan…mas malala!!

      • Filpino

        ah so si Emperor nero at Emperor cladio na mga emperor nang panahong sinulat ni Pablo ang talatang yan ay dapat na wag sundin dahil masama silang emperador marami silang pinapatay na mga kristiano. Pero malinaw ang sabi ni pablo na sundin sila. Higit ka pa ba kay Pablo?

      • http://twitter.com/JosephTesoro1 Joseph Tesoro

        Priests here are monarchic. Bad for them, the Philippines is a democracy.

      • IsipPinoy

        Better term is moron.

      • tarikan

        I remember when I was delivered into this world…God told me “I give you free will my son go forth and use it…wisely”. See, it’s more clear than in the constitution. I don’t know about them bishops, perhaps they were not told by the Lord. Oh pity them, using others’ free will for free.

      • boldyak

        is protesting rebelling?…if i campaign for the repel of a law, am I a rebel?…is there any law the RC violates?…if RC violates any law, why not bring them to court?…are the opposition candidates rebels?…are we to follow what ever laws are passed and be quiet even if we found it defective?…

      • rinom

        definitely not, expressing ones opinion is not rebellion,

      • ARIKUTIK

        Ah OK kaya pala bawal ang relihiyon sa komunista kasi super governing authority sila.

        Masaya siguro at mapayapa pag komunistang walang relihiyon.

      • Concur_Dissent

        anong reasoning yan? Para kang si TXTMAN ah!..hehehe

      • ARIKUTIK

        Sino si Caps Lock ? eeeeeewwwwww………… Back to topic > sumunod daw sa authority. Kaninong authority ? Dynasty of Monkeys, siya na lang ang sumamba sa kanila.

      • rinom

        mali naman ang verses mo,,, obey means wala kang lalabagin na utos ng Diyos, the law of God is higher than the law of man. you can obey the law of man as long as you do not disobey the law of God. but if there is a conflict, and you want to be righteous, do not rebel against governing authority, you can voice your opinion, but do not take the law to your own hand, but seek the help of God. after all, God can wipe out any kingdom or or dominion if he wants to. example, the edsa 1, what man is impossible to do, God do it for us, in a matter of days, marcos was gone. so Paul is telling here,,, do not against authority because God is in control, is in command, and is the true source of authority, when Jesus was asked by Pilate, why you do not answer me? dont you know , i have the power to crucify you, and i have the power to release you,,, Jesus answered,,, you have no power at all if it has not given to you from above.

      • Concur_Dissent

        Ikaw na ang may diperensiya. pano magiging “mali” ang verses ko kung kinopy and paste ko lamang yung verses direct sa bible… yan ang mahirap sa mga tulad mong gumagawa ng sariling interpretation tapos sasabihin nyo galing sa bibliya na hindi naman!!

        Sample – madalas sabihin ng katoliko – nasa Diyos ang awa at nasa tao ang gawa…. nasa bibliya ba yan? PURGATOR- nasa bibliya ba yan? mga pananao kulto lamang ang gumagawa ng religion na ang basis ng teaching sabi ng pari o santo papa na hindi naman galing sa bibliya… matakot ka, dahil sinabi rin sa final book of revelation:

        Chapter 22: 18- 19

        18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy contained in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19 And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city that are described in this book.

    • speaksoftlylove

      Another misinformed dogyot. What do you mean by saying “The church should not endorse candidates…” for whatever reason? Did the RCC endorse any candidate that you know of?

      It is the White Movementm spearheaded by Velardi’s El Shaddaim that endorsed 9 senatorial candidates on the basis of the RH Law and they include other organizations like Couples for Christ. However, they are neither the CBCP nor the Roman Catholic Church, kuha mo? Yet the White Movement’s endorsement also includes administration candidates namely Pimental, Villar, and Trillanes so what are you crying about?

      Instead of focusing on the RCC sob story, tell your idol to focus on his other blunders, most specially the treatment of the LPs to the NPC. Just yesterday, Negros Oriental became the 11th province whose local officials bolted from Team PNoy in favor of UNA. But don’t worry, PNoy has two aces up his sleeves and these are, manufactured surveys and then followed up by hocus PCOS, kaya cool ka lang.

      • Pedro_Kawawa

        etong si spitfire tingin ko si baklang toby tiangco to! hekhek…

      • Yusuke Zenkibuta

        tingin ko sa sobrang gigil nya sumagot nakalimutan nya na ung ibig sabihin ng “sole”.. haha cguro sole or one is synonymous to many para sa kanya.. ndi muna magisip bgo magcomment..losser

      • Filpino

        ano naman ibig sabihin ng “sole” sa yo?

      • Yusuke Zenkibuta

        ano bang klaseng tanong yan.. sole meaning natatangi, nag-iisa, exclusively..
        Synonyms:
        single – only – exclusive – alone – one – lone – unique
        eto idagdag mo pa
        sole1 [sohl] Show IPA
        adjective
        1.
        being the only one; only: the sole living relative.
        2.
        being the only one of the kind; unique; unsurpassed; matchless: the sole brilliance of the gem.
        3.
        belonging or pertaining to one individual or group to the exclusion of all others; exclusive: the sole right to the estate.
        4.
        functioning automatically or with independent power: the sole authority.
        5.
        Chiefly Law. unmarried.

      • Yusuke Zenkibuta

        ano ba ibig sabihin ng sole sa dictionary? last time i checked is single – only – exclusive – alone – one – lone – unique

      • Ellee Bullo

        hahahaha sole sa kanya di solo kundi kaluluwa este soul pala un hahahahaha or baka kabihasnan ng korea ay seoul pala un hahahahha

      • ApoNiLolo

        Did you asked the question for the sake of adding your inane 2cents in the discussion or you’re really that ignorant?

      • marionics

        all of the above he he

      • Simplify1

        sinabi mo pa…

      • Yusuke Zenkibuta

        do you understand english spitfire? i said on the sole basis.. meaning on a single / one basis. So in short they can endorse but they have to think of various criteria. Did the RCC endorse any candidate? you can answer that. how about team buhay team patay campaign? is that fall short of endorsement to you? who’s the idol you are talking about? did i mention name of any person, a group of polician? i am not saying church should endorse LP, NP, UNA, etc. All i am saying is the church should be careful on endorsing candidate as they are suppose to have moral ascendancy. And you think church is endorsing candidates that fits the moral qualification?

        and one more thing don’t call me names. It only shows who you really are.

      • speaksoftlylove

        Obviously you are the one who does not comprehend simple English word. “team buhay and team patay campaign” are not endorsed candidates. By your own words it is a “campaign” NOT AN ENDORSEMENT, dogyot. Matulog ka, kulang ka lang sa tulog.

      • Yusuke Zenkibuta

        so if you happen to campaign for a person or group of person that does not necessarily mean you are endorsing them.. where’s your common sense hiding? then what’s the meaning of that. you tell me.. And besides my point here as I said I don’t mind them endorsing or as you put it endorsing. What i said is “i don’t think they should endorse on the “SOLE” basis of RH. I repeat on the sole basis. mahirap bang maintindihan ung sabi na “on the sole” basis. Remember church is so powerful and they can sway opinion. So they should use their powers responsibly. Tama bang mag campaign or endorse ng mga know immoral persons?

      • honest man

        How about this Team Buhay? Are they not endorsing them? If not, then, what does endorsement really mean?

      • Yusuke Zenkibuta

        spitfire is a single cell organism for him campaign != endorse kc mgkaiba spelling.. haha para sa kanya kc cguro ndi same ung motives or layuning ng campaign and endorsement which is just plain and simply giving support or preference to your “chosen” candidate.

      • Guest

        You want us to believe that lay-organizations are not backed up by their bishops and priests? Come on..This is the same story as “The church never sentenced anyone to death, the inquisition did.”.. The church endorses..If you don’t know where the team Patay and Buhay campaign came from then you are or incredible ignorant, or un a huge state of denial.
        VOTE FREE..VOTE WITH YOUR OWN CONSCIENCE..

      • speaksoftlylove

        Off tangent. Your brain is scattered with defective wave length.

        Conclusions are based on surmises, conjectures, biases, and prejudices.

        In short, hilo.

      • ESCAPEfmALCATRAZ

        spitfire.. DOGYOT na BADING BWAHAHAHAHA

      • mamer2

        I too, am a member of the CFC.
        I donot know of any rule in our organization that tells me how I should vote.

        Insistence to “go against” the “DULY PASSED LAW” that is
        the RH-LAW is just a matter of “Personal Choice” and “Vanity” of the MOVERS, more than anything else.
        It Boils-Down to “PERSONAL PRIDE”.

      • ARIKUTIK

        Penoy is hiding the “source code” of PCOS under his command. The only way to beat a cheater is not to vote any “Team Penoy” of “Team Malaysia” candidates.

        Filipinos Refuse to be cheated.

    • marionics

      absent pa ang mga may topak?

    • joboni96

      tax the mitsubishops and their businesses

    • Ommm

      The church must really examine itself and evaluate it’s sanity…better yet outside agencies should do the test….they are highly delusional to consider the people of the Philippines are under their direction…i liken their attitude to the street beggar proclaiming they are the second insurrection of Christ….

    • ARIKUTIK

      The anti-RH have a heart for helpless baby and the mother to save them from destruction by drugs. The pro-RH are for money to the point of poisoning helpless babies. Who can expect that this pro-RH candidates can have a heart for helpless poor Filipinos? The pro-RH eyes is focused in gold.

      • Yusuke Zenkibuta

        That’s fine arikutik, i respect your opinion. I don’t have something against or for RH. I am only against how church choose their candidate on the sole basis of their RH stand. Do you agree that those anti-RH candidates are worthy of church endorsement because only of the way they vote on RH? Like i said that RH law can do good and bad at the same time. It depends on how you choose to use it, Remember the decision is yours, the government is not forcing it upon you. You are given a choice as what God always gives us. You choose to follow Him or not is your decision. But of course who would not like to follow God.

      • ARIKUTIK

        I shouted this before and whisper it now. The RCC should not endorse any political candidate for the simple reason that they can not guarantee what the candidate will turn out once seated in power. The church may point out who is Not worthy to lead a nation if the candidate is known to be with out heart of morals or compassion for humanity. It must be known by all, signed and sealed with a kiss that the monkey candidates is killer of weak poor Filipinos through poisonous RH pills.
        “Team Patay” should not seat in government power for they are murderers of unborn babies in the name of greed for gold.
        RH law is not free choice because freedom is with out law.

    • Kronos2

      This move just shows how biased the thinking of the Catholic Church in the Phils. I am a catholic but I support the RH bill….should I be excommunicated? If yes,……it doesn’t matter because I can still pray to our Lord wherever I am.

    • ARIKUTIK

      Yes, re-phrase the RH law. Make it truly for health care. Take OUT the provision for poisonous contraceptive pills and sex education for innocent children. Erase these 2 provisions then RH law will become truly for the health of poor Filipinos.

      Hope the SC has wisdom to pass the RH law.

  • Guest

    Hebrews 13:17 ESV / 176 helpful votes

    Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you.

    Titus 3:1 ESV / 127 helpful votes

    Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work,

    Romans 13:1 ESV / 96 helpful votes

    Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.

  • Eugene De Ocampo

    hindi catholic church ang may authority sa tao kundi ang govyerno at ang gobyerno ang inatasan ng Dios para tayo ay pamahalaan para sa ating ikabubuti

    Titus 3:1

    Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work,

    Romans 13:1

    Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.

  • Islander

    Tax the Roman Catholic Church! I will vote for candidates who will promise to find ways to control the power and financial privileges of the bishops.

  • siJuanDalandan

    I remember that in 1995 national election, the Philippine Catholic Church waged a campaign against Gringo Honasan’s senatorial bid. The CBCP even distributed a komiks style pamphlet discussing all the “evils” that Honasan allegedly did. And now, because of this RH issue, the Philippine Catholic Church conveniently forgets all the “evils” that Honasan allegedly did. Walang consistency. Walang credibility. Shame.

    • jinx

      Really? It’s really a shame how this PCC engage in politicking in this country, and at the same time enjoying the benefits of being “sectarian.” Tsk, tsk, tsk, that’s a double-headed monster in our midst, deceiving the public if only to promote the personal interests of the Damasos.

  • Hey_Dudes

    It would really be nice if the catholic church bomboms can offer something better than just orchestrating the move to overturn a law. How about this church promising financial support for every 5th or the 10th child of any couple having as they define go forth multiply? Why cannot candidates put up an oversize campaign tarpaulin yet – there it is the church big campaign tarpaulin with it’s message? What hypocrisy.

  • Eugene De Ocampo

    Romans 13:1

    Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.

    • brunogiordano

      “For there is no authority except from God,”

      god???? na likha ng mga taong SCAMMERS upang panloko ng mga GULLIBLE na tao.

  • speaksoftlylove

    Most of the anti RCC critiques here don’t really know what they are talking about. Nagnggagalaiti sa mga pari na hindi naiintindihan ang ma sinasabi against their much maligned alleged “Padre Damaso.” To be clear and to cure the ignorance of these miscommvultures let’s set the facts straight.

    1. Unlike the Iglesia ni Kristo the CBCP itself is not supporting any senatorial candidates, whether UNA or Team Malisya, although some bishops voices there support for Delos Reyes, an independent candidate;

    2. What the RCC is actively campaigning is for the people NOT to vote for Team Patay. Team Patay is composed of both UNA and administration candidates. For one, Jack Enrile is included in Team Patay although it is composed mostly of administration candidates, Hence, in this sense there is no Catholic Church which is actively campaigning FOR any senatorial candidates;

    3. The White Movement is mistakenly identified as the Catholic Vote. That is a lot of nonsense. The White Movement is a movement of Catholics but it is spearheaded by El Shaddai’s Mike Velarde and not the RCC. The White Movement endorses 6 UNA and 3 administration candidates.

    If these ignorant and clueless yellowvultures are chastizing this Catholic Vote of the White Movement, then they do not want Pimentel, Villar, and Trillantes to win, whose candidacies are incidentally supported by the White Movement. See how clueless these yellowvultures are?

    • speaksoftlylove

      should be “this alleged Catholic Vote” in the last paragraph.

    • Bryan

      Only 6000 people showed up plus a heavy downpour, The Padre Damasos are still clueless!!

      • speaksoftlylove

        For your yellowvirused eyes, it’s only Bacolod City dogyot, in case you did not notice. Compare that to your barely five hundred people who are mostly passers by in your Team Malisya Baguio City campaign rally wherew your also clueless idol was present.

      • JuanTamadachi

        Herculubut strikes again

    • dbgner

      The point is the RCC should not campaign at all. It should not take sides. It should always be “seen” as an impartial, non-partisan observer. What will happen now to PPCRV? Or to the other “fruits” borne by the ecclesiastical missions born out out the Vatican II Council e.g. ecumenisms. (Telling people NOT to vote for certain people IS still campaigning, just a matter of semantics)

      If it is anti-RH, then they should explain to the masses the reasons why the RH is immoral and anti-life. Rather the RCC (through some bishops) is being vindictive by carrying out this targetted campaigning.

  • The Overlord

    This was nothing but a mere exercise for publicity that will ultimately be futile. The “Team Patay” bets will win anyway and this bishop will fall flat in the face in shame. May all the poor, uneducated, religious fanatics who shouted until their voices became hoarse and made themselves sick for soaking themselves in the rain be enlightened that they are being fooled into a trap of cyclical poverty and ignorance. Then the Supreme Court will just dismiss those hastily filed petitions against the obviously constitutional RH Law. Move on kids. Nothing to see here.

  • brunogiordano

    “Church flexes poll clout”
    Sa dami ng misa, dasal, prayer rally n ginawa na ng mga DAMASO at alipin nilang maka-DAMASO hindi dininig, lalo hindi kayo hindi didinigin ng mga bototante dahil sa uri ng inyong mga kandidato.

  • farmerpo

    Noong bumagyo, quote God got mad because the RH bill was passed.. unquote..
    It is now the law so God must have not liked the gathering so, ayan, basa ang mga rallyista. It is now the law, you may not like it, but it is the law. Spend you energy and creativity to stop corruption and not stop what can help the country move ahead and alleviate poverty.

  • $8705409

    We are witnessing the renaissance of the catholic friars. What better way to appreciate Noli and El Fili than to experience in our time what the books are all about. I am not against the issue being raised by them but rather the continuing penchant of these people to promote itself against what the constitution guaranteed the separation of politics and religions.

  • JamesCarag

    the followers of the catholic church are blind. thanks to their so called beliefs, they really are convinced that the RH LAW is the worst thing ever created. Stop and just think for a moments about whats best for THIS country, not what’s better for the faith of our country…

  • RamonTuliao

    its crazy. it was suppose to be implemented a few weeks ago but is held until July? want to know why? because without the RH law talk debate, some candidates lose edge if they are pro or anti. this isnt about what’s right or wrong, people are trying to squeeze every ounce of opportunity out of it. true story.

  • LadyBalmaceda

    “It is an uphill battle, but let us encourage one another to continue the fight because we are doing what Christ would have done in obedience to His Father’s [will],”

    I really hate when people use what’s on the bible to fight against issues in life or worse….politics…

    • JuliusContis

      its a big problem, but we have a lot more bigger issues in the PH. so one at a time, for now, I really hope people just ignore their wasted efforts and focus on the facts of each candidates when voting…

    • Alajero

      ladyganda77…please be careful in using the Lord’s name…because, no one is qualified or able to predict what the Lord would do in the context that we are in…if you look around you…you see too much poverty…and the quality of life is so sub human…let us wake up from these denials…we have a population problem..and it demeans life itself…

  • etomacq

    I am against RH Law.. Hindi nila pwede pwersahin ang mga mamamayan na wag magparami…

    pigilan ng gobyerno ang mga kurakot at pol-dynasties na totoong ugat kung bakit naghihirap ang ating bayan.

    Hindi ang pagdami ng Pilipino ang dahilan ng kahipang ng ating bansa.. mga magnanakaw sa gobyerno ang totoong nagpapahirap sa bayan natin.

    • Alajero

      …etomacq…you cannot use lies to oppose the law…no one forces people to stop copulating or populating…the law promotes education to responsible parenthood and provide kit to those who cannot afford…which is what gov’t do to improve the quality of life of its community…let us be honest…facts only my friend…

      • etomacq

        So the RH law is useless if the people ignored this law?

      • Yusuke Zenkibuta

        ok course any law is useless if nothing abides to it. ano ba namn klaseng tanong yan. if no one use it syempre ang tawag dun useless..

      • etomacq

        the peole has the right to choose.. kaya bala wala talaga ang RH law

      • Yusuke Zenkibuta

        that’s exactly the beauty of it. the beauty of democracy. people got to choose. now you cannot per se say na bale wala ang RH kc it is yet to be seen. give it time. it may take more than 5yrs before you can really find out if me effect ba talaga o wala. result can’t be seen overnight

      • etomacq

        For what I know, during Marcos regime there was already a family planning method put up by his government… 3 decades later, tumaas pa rin populasyon ng Pilipinas.

      • kumilos_tayo

        Wag mong kausapin yan (etomacq) sarado utak nyan gusto nyan sa mas corrupt..

    • JOHNCeneza

      The RH law doesn’t force you to stop multiplying. It just guarantees that those who decided to have family planning, will have adequate support from the government. Kung ayaw mo, e di wag. Magpakarami ka, but remember that if you decide that enough is enough, the government thru the RH law will guide you if you ever want a guide.

      • etomacq

        I agree with you.. so those people who kept on saying that RH law is the answer to poverty are misled.

        Even if they have a small family and their parents are jobless then they will remain poor.

      • Yusuke Zenkibuta

        it may or may not be. but i will say na it’s leaning close to it may be a solution to poverty. just think na if ever more poor people will try family planning that would mean less people to feed. so ung possibility na mapag-aral anak nila is more than when they are just thinking of feeding the big family.

      • etomacq

        i agree.

  • Ambotguid

    Slow day at the newsroom… this the best national headline you guys could come up with?

  • http://twitter.com/erncastillo ern

    batas na yan….. let the people individually choose what they want for their families.

  • Marx Louis Wang

    Nagsipag-aral ba ito’ng mga pare ng Philippine Constitution. Alam ba nila ang separation of church from the state? Aba’y tingnan niyo na lang ang violation of the constitution na nagaganap sa artikulong ito! Alam niyo ba kung gaano karami na tayo??? 104 million at hindi pa kasali ang nasa labas ng bansa na 11 million!!!! Okay sana kung hindi tayo gipit sa ipapakain sa mga karamihan na mga mahihirap. Ang simbahan wala naman ni kusing na ginagawa para mapigil ang kahirapan. Maskina magdasal ka ng rosaryo sa harap ng altar ng isang libo sa isang araw walang grasyang babagsak mula sa langit. Wala pa akong narinig na nagmilagro ng ganyan.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ryan.cruz.779 Ryan Dela Cruz

    Sana yung ginamit na pondo d2 ginamit na lng para makatulong sa mahihirap na kababayan natin…

  • Hfxwst

    These catholic leaders are full of crap. They should be jailed for trying to impose their beliefs on a population who may or may not share them. We have freedom of religion in this country. You do not have to be 16th century catholic to live in the Philippines.

  • AllinLawisFair

    DOWN WITH THE DAMASOS. IBAGSAK ANG MGA DAMASO.

  • http://inquirer.net unokritiko

    A political churh pretending for the teaching of god!!! Politics in theology???or the govt doesnt anymore give funds to this bishop!!! a very shameful act of the people of bacolod.
    gina piko gina pala lang ang pera dinhi sa bacolod and that was long time ago!!!
    Will mr tagle give some talking to this bishop!! out of bounds!!!!
    dont vote for the candidates who attended this rally as you will regret later on!!

  • Hellomr

    Kaya wala ng gustung sumunod sa simbahan dahil masyadong papanghimasok…
    Parang siya ang tumatayong god at mas mataas pa… Grabe nag multiply na ang karamihan sa Pilipino na tumiwalag…

  • panugda7

    I cannot believed how the church come up on the list of this Team Buhay. Some of these are criminals and hippocrite. Hindi basta Anti-RH Bill ka Makatao at Makabayan ka. Some of these senatorial candidates are calculating , NOT even true to themselves.. Saan ang common sense ng mga church leaders na ito. Puede ko ring sabihin na ANTI- RH Bill ako ah..And make you believe I am. GOD is the ultimate Judge , The voice of the people is the voice GOD. Tingnan natin after the election.

  • agaylaya

    I am a Catholic and I do not agree with any Bishop or Church group endorsing any candidate. It is divisive. As private citizens Bishops can participate in elections but if they start to publicly endorse or campaign for the candidacy of any person or group, they should resign first or take a leave if this is allowed. I usually walk out of any homily when they start to do this.

  • Be Nice

    Ang kahirapan sa buhay ay hindi dahilan sa Diyos para ang mag-asawa ay maging mahina na magpigil sa sarili, o mag-kontrol sa pagtatalik. Kung mahal mo ang Diyos ay susunod ka sa Kanya.

  • Agat Sumi

    survey shows that many “winnable candidates” do not belong to the so called Team Buhay. In fact, the no.1 senatorial bet in the latest survey is Legarda, a Pro RH. Im sure mapapahiya na naman ang mga bishops tsk tsk tsk…

  • brunogiordano

    ang mga kandidato na kapanalig ng TEAM TATAY DAMASO ay pupulutin sa mga kangkungan pagkatapos ng MAY 13, 2013 election.

  • MULEN

    JC de los Reyes garnered only around 45 thousand votes in the 2010 presidential elections, just a miniscule 0.5% of the total votes cast. That’s why he’s the perfect gauge to determine whether the so-called “Catholic votes” is for real or is just pure baloney.

    • Benigno the Turd

      Different ball game since its a senate race. Even if you’re second choice, it’s still a vote for you. No second choice when voting for a president.

      • MULEN

        That’s why it’s quite intriguing to know how many votes he’ll have in the May 13 elections. Those 45K votes he had in 2010 is his electoral base, pre-CBCP/El Shaddai endorsement and the total votes cast for him in this years election over and above the 2010 45K figure are for all intents and purposes the votes influenced by the Catholic Church- the so-called Catholic votes. Kaya nga kung he’s not improving substantially sa eleksyong ito, ibig sabihin noon walang kakwenta kwenta ang sinasabing Catholic votes. Malaking sampal sa CBCP at El Shaddai kung he can’t even make past the 5% of the total votes cast and that’s around 2.5 million votes.

  • abner

    gogogo lang po team buhay….good news po yan.

  • mewo_meow

    Wa epek ang ganito. Walang solid Catholic vote.

  • josh_alexei

    I met this group of Filipinos calling themselves Couples for Christ and last Election they were very Vocal against the Candidate for City Mayor who was an Open Gay and they made an issue of his Sexual Orientation..I warned them as their group is a registered Charitable organization (where their contributions are tax deductible) they can discuss Politics and other personal issues of candidates within their group but can not do so publicly, unless they do as an individual and as volunteer campaigner but NEVER to Make an ISSUE OF one’s sexual orientation as it will be a violation of Human Rights code and Discrimination and they can be sued for Civil Damages and most of this group members can not even vote as of yet because they are not citizens . And their officers bragged that they are this and that in the Phil…and I told them, just be prepared to go to court to defend yourself and be prepared to pay. Now our new Premier is open Gay and the Couples for Christ have not Said a word about the issue at all, never and never they opened their mouth again.

  • Jeremiah_CheGuevara

    Vote down all pro RH and noynoy-anointed pro RH candidates and restore basic morality in our society!

    • brunogiordano

      “…restore basic morality in our society!”

      ang 200 years behind na MORALIDAD??????

  • rockinLeon

    I thought the Church is prohibited from endorsing particular candidates for they would risk losing its tax exemption per BIR Codes.
    Anyway, the Catholic Church should be able to say whatever they please, and that its faithful should also have the rights not to listen and disagree but in the event that a particular church such as the Catholic Church officially endorsing Team Buhay, then that would be an election violation.

    • JOHNCeneza

      Sana gawin na nila

    • dbgner

      Totally agree. Under the constitution, “(3) Charitable institutions, churches and personages or convents
      appurtenant thereto, mosques, non-profit cemeteries, and all lands,
      buildings, and improvements, actually, directly, and exclusively used
      for religious, charitable, or educational purposes shall be exempt from
      taxation.”

    • jcsantos

      That’s why they call their action right now as “not endorsing”. Don’t you love it when the church has the liberty of changing both legal and religious definitions at will?

  • Katuwiran lang

    How come it doesnt feel right to have honasan tagged as team buhay? Something just doesnt seem right.

  • tra6Gpeche

    “Christ would have done in obedience to his father’s [will].” I don’t see any logic to this. Why? If that is true, then Christ would have married someone to have many children. As far as I know, Jesus Christ have not impregnated anyone. If Jesus Christ was alive today, he would tell many poor Filipino families to limit their children to only one or two. Why? Their many malnourished and hungry children will die at the very young age, anyway and if some of them do not die early, most of them will not have a chance to go to a grammar school in the future. Except, of course, if the Catholic schools in the Philippines will accept or admit, free of tuition, all these poor children in their expensive schools. No one would doubt the words of Jesus Christ because he could see these poor children’s future unlike the Philippine Catholic Church!

    • kumilos_tayo

      Daming catholic school diyan ang mamahal ng tuition fee.. May ari eh mga catholic church dapat gawin nilang libre yun para sa mahihirap..

  • Edgar Lores

    Anyari, Bacolod? 12,000 marchers comprised of 6,000 with IQ scores below 26 points and 6,000 with scores below 51 – that is to say, just smart enough to stay out of the rain.

  • Edmund Labuguen

    No, don’t junk that law!

  • LAMBFORGOVERNOR

    the church is a religious philosophy which uses god as their claim to fame… however, god has no religion.. neither did jesus… so, you know what that means….

  • cogito728sum

    One of the factors that contribute to the confusion in the Philippine setting is the failure of the Catholic Church and other religious denominations to assume their proper role in the body politic. And politics is defined as nothing but the pursuit of power, the desire of an aggrupation of people to control the government. But in order to do so, they must form a political party not just an ordinary pressure group. And it must be the clear purpose of the group to win control of the government and thus exercise political power. And this is where the Catholic Church has been blinded for as long as its participation in the body politic is concerned. This is where its function has become enigmatic.
    One political theorist advanced the argument that when a church prescribes a certain code of bahaviour, it is exercising its religious duty. But when it encroaches on secular matter such as going against the RH Law and uses its influence to endorse only candidates that, to gain such church endorsement, campaign against already enacted legislation, the church then enters politics. And this is where the church’s position becomes enigmatic because not being a political party, it cannot field its own candidates for public office. But because it is not prepared to relinquish powers it has been used to wield otherwise it would lose its tremendous influence in the political setting, the only course of action left to it is to engage in what it is doing now, campaign for those whom it could control thru the strength of its religious clout. Hence, while it abandons its purely religious function, it is venturing into a territory it is not supposed to officially involve itself.
    The only solution left to the electorate to remedy this mentally confusing situation is to follow the dictates of their conscience. It is for the better interest of the whole body politic that they elect for office only those they deem deserving. Afterall, the proper workings of government is the main responsibility of the citizenry as a whole not that of the church. Merci!

  • Gloria Wheelchairroyo

    Bobo ang Katoliko kung ang basihan lang ng boto ay RH bill. Ang daming pulitiko na anti-RH pero mga criminal, kurakot, adulterer, murderer, sugarol, etc. Kagaya ng pinili nila 2 Rebelde at si Honasan na maraming namatay na Filipino gawa ng rebulusyon nya. Kurakot at protektor ng super kurakot na si Mitos Arroyo at JV PlundERAP.

  • BatangSingapore

    bigla talaga naglalabasan ang taga sagip ng abnoy na presidente hahahaha. piliti nyo nirerescue ang team patay gayon alam na ninyo patay na mga kandidato yun. ibig sabihin talunan sa darating na eleksyon ang mga yan hehhehehehehe.

    MABUHAY ANG SIMBAHAN AT KAHIT KAILAN HINDI PWEDENG GAPIIN ANG KABUTIHAN. NO TO RH BILL NO TO TEAM PATAY AKA TEAM ABNOY.

    • mave

      nag labasan din mga alipores ni GMA…try and try ka nalang mangupit dyan pare para may pang abuloy kna naman sa simbahan…hehehe

      • BatangSingapore

        huwag mo akong itulad sa iyo na bayaran.

        kamo kay lacierda sayang binabayad sa iyo dahil mahina mga argumento mo naghihingalo hahahhahahaha. team patay ka nga aka team abnoy.

      • mave

        hahaha bayaran mo mukha mo! ganyan ang pag iisip mo kasi gawain mo hahahaha, hindi bali na abnoy hindi naman kawatan na kagaya mo..hahaha

      • kumilos_tayo

        Hoy madumi ang isip baka ikaw ang bayaran kasi ikaw ang walng hinto ng kakasabi nya..

  • samarutan

    I am a Catholic but this coming election I am NOT going to vote for the candidates that the Church will endorse.

  • Pedro_Kawawa

    etong mga pari at obispo wala na talagang nagawang maayos! di na nga makapag homily ng maayos (aantukin ka lang) at di din naman nagiging magandang halimbawa (mabibilang lang un talagang nabubuhay sa vows nila — chastity, obedience and karamihan may vow of poverty), nakikialam pa sa patakbo ng gobyerno!

    kung linisin nyo kaya muna yan bakuran nyo tapos gumawa kayo ng konkretong hakbang para matuto mga pinoy mag plano at di anak ng anak! pamigay nyo pera ng simbahan sa mga nangangailangan at huwag nyo ipadala pa sa Roma. daming walang pagkain sa hapag pero kayo pagkaing mayaman nasa hapag nyo!

  • kokak

    .
    I agree the RCC has the right to endorse who they want to win. And if God agrees with them then ALL the Team Buhay should win and ALL the Team Patay should lose.

    IF that doesnt happen then either (1) there is no God; (2) God has fully delegated his will to the people; (3) God is in favor RH bill.

    We shall see
    .

    • tra6Gpeche

      This makes sense, to me, kabayan. So, if the “Team Bitay, este Patay” should lose, which one of the three scenarios would the Philippine Catholic Church choose?

  • Benigno the Turd

    RH law is useless since there is no requirement to fund nor is it guaranteed funding Pro-life candidates only need to withhold funding for items they object to year after year to make it a dead letter law until it is repealed. So long as Dinky corners the budget, DOH will have zip to implement it.

  • Horst Manure

    Tampons are red also just before they are dumped.
    The rain could have been God trying to wash the red out of the shirts.

  • tugakbatan

    Nagbabanal-banalan ang mga ungas na pariing iyan, pero a majority of them are sinful. Dito lang sa amin, about 90% of the natives ordained as priests in our town are confirmed with children. Hey hipocrite, will you stop meddling with politics.

  • Oliver82

    Naman! Deperate move? Pakainin nyo ang mgagutom.. paaralin nyo ang hindi makapagaral.. bigyan nyo ng trabaho ang maraming hindi makapgtrabaho.. itaas ang sweldo sa maraming gustong papalit sa iyo.. napaka ironic namanna gusto nating mgimprove ang buhay nating mga pinoy and government try to fix this and ang simbahan ayaw? E kayo nalng mgassume ng responsibilidad na solutionan ang mga problemang ito.. masyadong mga magaling!

  • Kuya_Orot

    Everybody has the right to endorse candidates according to his conviction. For a long long time, the Iglesia ni Cristo had been courted by many politicians because of the pols desire to win and the INC’s ability to muster huge numbers of votes for their choiced ones. This recent move by the Catholic church could be the gamechanger. Despite Malacanang’s derision of the Catholic votes, nobody can discount that in the long run the prelates could convince the faithfuls to conform to Church wishes and change the political landscape in the country thereby making them the real king makers in future elections. Issues like unhampered corruption, gut-wrenching poverty and high prices could make Pinoys assume that all they read in the papers are gov’t-sponsored propaganda to beguile the people of the real situation.

  • basilionisisa

    the Bishop from Hell strikes again! shame on voters who follow his Pied Piper’s flute.

  • mavtan

    Asaness! RH bill is already long due and supported by people who understand the needs for bill like this which composed of majority of the Filipinos. I don’t think the judges of the SC will even consider the moral aspect of the RH bill based on the belief of the Roman catholics. The benefits from the RH bill will outweigh more than the sentiment of CBCP and the catholic church.

    • Yusuke Zenkibuta

      most probably that’s true unless cbcp can prove that the passage of that bill violated any rights enshrined in the constitution. Most of the SC decision should be base on law not on moral ground but that doesn’t totally mean that they don’t also consider moral grounds. Like they say, not everything moral is legal. Morality is subjective to the belief of a person or group of person while legality is base on rule of law. The CBCP should just concentrate on tending the flock back to the right path. This RH bill is not forced upon each and everyone of us. The more the church can educate the flock regarding the good and evil thing about RH, the better. Church is still powerful, they can guide the flock without going against the government and still it is legal. The church should concentrate on educating the flocks on their bounds without stepping on the governments foot. That is why there is a separation of church and state.

  • Ferdinand Poe

    LOVE IS NOT KILLING OR EVEN ATTEMPTING TO KILL!!!!!GOD EVEN SAID “ANIMAL” OFFERING NOT ‘HUMAN BEING’!!!!!!!!!!

  • jeff

    This RH issue comes at a time when the credibility of priests and bishops in general is at its lowest.

    Risa Hontiveros is a symbol of PRO-RH. Will she lose in 2013 election? Maybe… but I
    will vote for her.

    Koko Pimentel, Honasan, etcetera, are anti-RH. They either lose touch of the realities of being poor, or just simply playing safe and succumb to the pressure of the mitshubishops. So I will not vote for them.

    • ye854bela729

      Wat i can’t understand y they called them team Patay y ang tigas ng bao nilang intindihin ang RH BILL sa pageducated sa mga Taong walang kaalaman sa pagpaparami ng kanilang anak na d nila kayang BUHAYIN,PAKAININ, PAGARALIN,IBIGAY ANG DESENTENG PAMUMUHAY,ETC. Bakit ang Simbahang Katok o CATHOLIC church, na yan ba ay kukunin nila ang mga nagkalat na mga batang langsanga, o papakainin nila ang mga Nagugutom,pababahayan ang walng may tirahan,papagaralin, o padadamitan? Aber! Npa ka hypocrite ninyong lahat against the RH BILL,WEN THE FACT THAT GOVERNMENT N NGO OR PRIVATE, WILL JUST HELP THEM EDUCATE PEOPLE WHO IS SO IGNORANTE SA PAGCONTROL NG PAGGAWA NG BATA SPECIALLY THOSE WHO DON’T HAVE THE RIGHTS, or could not afford is that a Sin! Hypocritical Visayans na huag ka sila ang maraming ngaanak sa abroad at tinatambak sa Pinas yung kanilang mga inipot sa abroad na syang nagpapalago ng populasion dito sa kaawa awang Inang Bayan nating PILIPINAS.
      ANG DAPAT PAGARALAN NG ATING LAW MAKERS AY ANG PAGSUKPO NG MGA ” OFW’S, sa iligal nilang pagdaksang paguwi ng mga pagkakasala nila sa ABROAD, like when we use to have a business in S.Korean we saw plenty of Pinays bringing home babies all the time like suviniers or something n most of them may asawa dito.o nagpabuntis s foreigners? Pls sila ang nakapag contribute ng populations here.Mke sure when they brought. Kids here should have Married Cert, and b sure registre s a embasy ng Pinas, and they shsould pay tax if more than one.yan ay dapat din sukpuin sample lang yan sa Korea eh Pinay or Pinoy are all ober the world na.please LAW MAKER START THINK TO HOW TO STOP ALL THIS PINAYS WHO HAVE NO CONTROL COCNTRIBUTING SA PAGDAMING NG BASTARDO,O SUVINIERS, ABOARD.ABOUT TIME TO THINK IT OVER NOW.LET THOSE DAMASO’s hypocrites to take care of all the xxess kids in the STREET COZ THEY ARE THE ONE HYPOCRITICAL ABOUT RH BILLS. OK THNX

  • virgoyap

    Mabuhay si senator Mitos Walangsaysay ang walang isip at sipsip ni goria arroyo!!

  • jinx

    No more of your deception Padre Damaso! Pati nga langit hindi nakiki-ayon sa laban ninyo dahil puro kasinungalingan at panlilinlang sa publiko. Ayon, inulan kayo diyan kahit nasa kasagsagan ng summer. Niyakap niyo pa si Honasan na responsable sa pagkamatay ng ilang sibilyan at sundalo dahil sa kanyang pansariling kudeta. Andiyan pa si Mitos na tagapagtanggol sa dating magnanakaw. Magsama-sama nga kayo, pareho kayo ng kulay.

  • Jack Phalaphitac

    Still stupid. So, if there are ‘politicians of life’, them Damasos are telling us that there are ‘politicians of death’ too? Who in his right mind would ask the people to vote him into office while standing in a platform of death? Damasos’ logic is still absurd. It is this absurdity that threatens the loss of faith of many among us. Obviously, that rain from heaven failed to wash the senseless illogicality in their brains. At least the half who remained in darkness.

  • padrefaura

    Isnt it ironic that two coup plotters (honasan and trillanes) are in team buhay?

  • InChristAlone_75

    The RH law clearly points out one thing – The RCC has taught its flock the wrong teachings instead of God’s true Words and now it’s reaping what it has sown.

  • lex

    NAPARIWARA na ang CBCP. Di ko na makita ang totoong kahulugan ng simbahan. Ang dapat ay SPIRITUAL, ngayon sobrang POLITICS na at di lang yan SHOWBIZ na rin. Gising CBCP!

  • Ismail Tolosa

    hayyst

  • titolim

    Sa aking paningin matuloy man o sa hindi ang RH bill na yan hindi makakatulong sa pang araw araw na pangangailangan ng tao kong imbis na pumunta ka dyan sa rally nag araro ka don sa palayan o tubuhan mo dahil tag ulan na di na paaga sana ang pag harvest mo.

  • virgoyap

    For these closed-minded anti RH Church people they prefer a population to multiply endlessly like mindless rats than to have a population who are responsible for their families and who are minding how many children they can afford to rear. Poor people!!

  • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

    Oldest joke in the world: “Religion”
    Highest paid comedian: “The Catholic Church”
    Top grossing act: “Heed or Hell”

  • mangtom

    Louie Ann Medina: I admit that I do not know much about Damaso. My information is from what I read in posts from other commenters in this forum. So what if I am not familiar enough with this Damn-asos? it is enough that I know these anti-RH priests and others are stooges of the Philippine Roman Catholic church. why can’t they think for themselves instead of swallowing the lies from the CBCP? That’s what you call pitiful. Cut the tether with your DAMASO priests and experience the feeling of being FREE. Your thinking processes are centuries behind. Wake up and smell the coffee.

  • $22369910

    we should have an agreement with these idiots who blindly follow what their church or any other affiliation says- go ahead vote on the basis of what another person dictates- without putting much thought, without taking into account reason, without studying what the candidate stands for or if he or she has a platform even- and the next time, there are floods, or sh!t happens in this country, you go run to your friendly neighbourhood priest or pastor or messiah. don’t blame the government or bug the rest of us for help.

    sounds fair to me.

  • Filpino

    hehehe buhay na buhay nanaman ang mga comments kapag tungkol sa simbahang Katolika. Iba na talaga kapag leading at tutoong simbahan ng Dios maraming nakaabang na hehehe

  • honest man

    Di na muna ako magsisimba hanggang sa matapos ang election. Baka kasi nasa homily na naman ang Team Buhay/ Team Patay. Nakaka inis na talaga ang mga Damasong ito.

  • InChristAlone_75

    Divorce bill is so around the corner, marriage equality not so impossible any longer… Should there really be separation of the church and state? Isn’t God the Supreme power of the universe?

    ‘But the one who hears my words and does not put them into practice is
    like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. The
    moment the torrent struck that house, it collapsed and its destruction
    was complete.’ – Luke 6-49

  • ealicer

    PAY THE TAX! PAY THE TAX! PAY THE TAX!

    • dbgner

      Agree. They can preach/ecclesiastical matters all they want. But the moment they delve into the political sphere; this nullifies their tax free privileges.

      • ealicer

        Not only delve politically but also the moment they ask DONATIONS

  • Jlgp Jong

    mga nakaputing satanas

  • yaonglaan

    And the zombies just goes ! they dont know respect !

  • titolim

    akala nyo mga anghel, ha. may mga buntot ang ilan dyan sa kanila.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1287882980 Maria Angela Getuaban Francisc

    All things started from God. So we must all obey his will. our intelligence is only smallest drop in the ocean of god’s wisdom. Let us all go back to God and Junk that RH LAW!!!!

  • indiosbravos2002

    Tatlong desperadong kandidato. Lahat wala sa magic 12 ng surveys. Hehehe

  • buttones

    What’s the fuss? The RH Bill does not demand people practice neither contraception nor abortion. Surely the Catholic faithful will listen to the priests and be guided and instructed
    accordingly? Or have the priests lost faith in their flock and the faith they teach? Are the priests admitting their failure to teach the ‘true word’ of God? Oh dear, they are in trouble….

  • Placido_Penitente

    Yeheeey, we are still in the middle ages.

  • tekateka

    Kill the Church…. another reason why this country is so poor… and it’s people dumb..!

  • mangtom

    If I were you, JOHNCeneza, I would stop replying to etomacq’s posts. Your explanations are clear and the to point, yet he doesn’t get it. This can only mean one thing: his IQ is far below yours. So you are like talking to a wall. I would not waste any more valuable time with this idiot. Pagpasensyahan mo na lang. Not everyone is created equal-IQ wise.

  • UrHONOR

    ANONG uring mamamayan ang MAGBABASURA sa isang BATAS na inaproban ng Congress at Senate? Anong uri ng kaisipan ang namamahay sa utak ng mga taong ganitong pag-iisip? At….sa harap pa mismo ng mga mambabatas ng bayan! ANONG nais ipalabas ng mga TNL na ito…..na nakakahigit sila sa altintunin ng bayan? Na sila ang dapat na masunod at hindi ang patakaran ng bayan? ANAK Za POTE, kung ayaw kayong sumunod, gamitin ninyo ang mga passports ninyo at sa ibang bayan kayo magpa-siklab ng TNL ninyong kaengotan. At ang siste, ang namumuno ng TNL na kilusang yan ay ang numero unong TATAY ng Visayas.

    Kung ako ang tatanungin na ano ang aking masasabi sa kabulastugang ito…..ito ang aking sasabiihin: IBASURA ang nangbabasura/nangbaboy ng BATAS ng BAYAN!

    IBASURA ang BATAS samantalang binuburo ang PEDOPHILIA, THIEVERY, IMMORALITY, at napakarami pang iba sa altar ng kaechosan.

    At bilang pagpapagunita sa mga kinauukulang mga TNL na mga BASURERO, heto ang panghimagas ninyo handog ng mga inosenteng batang inabuso ninyo ng paulit-ulit sa mahabang panahon.

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    Priest who had sex with boys now tells how to smuggle ivory

    National Geographic‘s new issue exposes the ivory business, which has been hiding in plain sight since a worldwide trade ban was enacted in 1989. And a major player in the magazine’s story is a priest in the Philippines whom I wrote about in 2005 when investigating another global-trafficking phenomenon — the Catholic Church’s movement of sexual abuse suspects across international borders to escape justice.

    The priest, Monsignor Cristobal Garcia, is now quoted as explaining how to smuggle ivory into the United States: “Wrap it in old, stinky underwear and pour ketchup on it.” And if an icon won’t fit in a suitcase? Here’s how National Geographic‘s Bryan Christy summarizes Garcia’s advice: “I might get a certificate from the National Museum of the Philippines declaring my image to be antique, or I could get a carver to issue a paper declaring it to be imitation or alter the carving date to before the ivory ban.”

    Garcia also made provocative comments when I interviewed him about why he fled the U.S. in 1985. He admitted having sex with altar boys and supplying them with drugs.

    ======================================================

    VIENNA—Austrian prosecutors on Tuesday charged a 79-year-old former priest of sexually abusing 15 students at a Benedictine monastery between 1973 and 1993

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    priest franco decaminada stole 5.1 million dollars from a catholic hospital . he had been stealing the workers wages for months they went to the vatican for help but it refused so they went to the police. 1500 peoples wages for 8 months. the hospital is now insolvent, this was in rome. this week cnn joseph gallagher and mark gaspar are 2 of 26 priest suspended after 2011 grand jury investigation into archdiese handling of sex abuse allegations this happened in penns. usa Sun star apr. 2 2013

  • http://www.pulisnapogi.blogspot.com/ Pulis Na Pogi

    let the church pay taxes first…
    then they can rally all they want!

  • Jane Tan

    \Navarra said the diocese would continue to call for the scrapping of the RH law, which, according to him, posed the threats of LOSS OF FAITH\

    Hmm… iba na parang ang ipinaglalabanan nito lol

  • Oscar Diaz

    Going back to the dark ages…

  • Tamarindwalk

    If the catholic church wants to interfere in the political process, it needs to start paying taxes – NOW!

  • Oscar Diaz

    Di na baleng corrupt, magnanakaw, at incompetent basta ANTI – RH Law! – yun ang gusto ng CBCP… Noon nga namang panahon ni GMA, kahit na puro nakawan at corruption, di naman naipasa ang RH Bill, naka pajero pa sila!

  • batangsulpok

    Kailan pa kaya maiiisip ng mga kababayan natin na sobra na ang lobo ng population ng Pilipinas pero ayaw pa rin nilang gumamit ng protection para mabawasan ang mga anak lalo na yun mga pamilyang di kayang mapakain o mapag-aral o maipagamot ang kanilang mga anak?

  • Wakats

    “Junk the RH law movement” won’t prosper since many catholic faithfuls, per surveys, recognize the need for curbing the population explosion. Moreover, the Team Buhay is led by numerous Team Tatay clergies including the bishop of the archdiocese of Bacolod….

  • kokak

    .
    If Team Buhay and Team Patay were political parties and has to be voted by block, I will vote for Team Patay being the better package.
    .

  • just_anotherperson

    “Over half a century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of older people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: ‘Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this is happening.’ Since then I have spent well-nigh fifty years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some sixty million people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat; ‘Men have forgotten God; That’s why all this happened.’”

    – Alexander Solzhenitsyn

  • ztefertilizerscam10

    STOP DONATING YOUR MONEY TO THE CORRUPT BISHOP..

    The Bank Investments Of Different Dioceses

    Diocese / Church Foundation Company # Shares Owned Rank in Top 100 Total Investment Value

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 222,843,681 4th PHP12.724 Billion

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (REAL CASA DE MISERICORDIA) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 41,408,841 8th PHP2.364 Billion

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA (HOSPITAL DE SAN JUAN DE DIOS) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 22,072,182 13th PHP1.26 Billion

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (HOSPICIO DE SAN JOSE) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 6,016,624 15th PHP343.55 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (HOSP DE SA JUAN DE DIOS) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 4,285,572 17th PHP244.71 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (MAYORDOMIA DELA CATEDRAL) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 2,664,266 21st PHP152.13 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (ST. PAUL`S HOSPITAL) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 1,772,418 26th PHP101.21 Million

    CARMEL OF THE DIVINE INFANT JESUS OF PRAGUE, INC. Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 726,819 49th PHP41.50 Million

    EL SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION FILIPINA DE PADRES AGUSTINOS RECOLETOS Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 551,382 60th PHP31.48 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF JARO Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 491,385 64th PHP28.06 Million

    EL SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION FILIPINA DE PADRES AGUSTINOS RECOLETOS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 2,370,000 31st PHP260.70 Million

    SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION ARCHICOFRADIA DE N.P.J.N DE RECOLETOS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 1,234,603 75th PHP135.81 Million

    CARMEL OF THE DIVINE INFANT JESUS OF PRAGUE, INC. San Miguel Corp (SMC) 957,516 79th PHP105.33 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TUGUEGARAO San Miguel Corp (SMC) 856,639 81st PHP94.23 Million

    REAL MONASTERIO DE LA PURISIMA CONCEPCION DE NUESTRA MADRE SANTA CLARA DE MANILA San Miguel Corp (SMC) 809,834 83rd PHP89.08 Million

    SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION DE PADRES RECOLETOS POR BECAS Y VOCACIONES San Miguel Corp (SMC) 621,702 89th PHP68.39 Million

    CARMEL OF ST THERESE OF THE CHILD JESUS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 592,956 91st PHP65.23 Million

    THE DISCALCED CARMELITE NUNS OF CEBU San Miguel Corp (SMC) 451,864 95th PHP49.71 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF NUEVA SEGOVIA DE VIGAN San Miguel Corp (SMC) 428,067 98th PHP47.09 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA Philex Mining Corp (PX) 3,221,135 15th PHP66.68 Million

    RELIGIOUS OF THE VIRGIN MARY – B Philex Mining Corp (PX) 3,125,777 16th PHP64.70 Million

    RELIGIOUS OF THE VIRGIN MARY-A Philex Mining Corp (PX) 1,091,027 69th PHP22.58 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TUGUEGARAO Ayala Corporation (AC) 24,015 73rd PHP9.29 Million

    KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS FRATERNAL ASSOCIATION OF THE PHILS, INC. Ayala Corporation Preferred Shares – A (ACPA) 60,000 2nd PHP31.80 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TAGBILARAN Ayala Corporation Preferred Shares – B (ACPR) 10,000 64th PHP1.02 Million

    DAUGHTERS OF CHARITY OF ST. VINCENT DE PAUL PHINMA Corp. (PHN) 159,575 19th PHP2.12 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF THE DIOCESE OF JUAN DE DIOS PHINMA…

  • ztefertilizerscam10

    GlorIa bribed to Mitsubishop and Safari…

    Butuan City Bishop Juan de Dios Pueblos, who received a Mitsubishi Montero, Bontoc-Lagawe Bishop Rodolfo Beltran (Nissan Pathfinder), Abra Bishop Leopoldo Jaucian (Mitsubishi Strada), Cotabato Archbishop Orlando Quevedo (Toyota Grandia Hi-Ace), Basilan Bishop Martin Jumoad (Mitsubishi Strada), Zamboanga Archbishop Romulo Valles (Toyota Grandia Hi-Ace); and Nueva Segovia Archbishop Ernesto Salgado (Isuzu Crosswind).

  • ztefertilizerscam10

    Priest who had sex with boys now tells how to smuggle ivory

    National Geographic‘s new issue exposes the ivory business, which has been hiding in plain sight since a worldwide trade ban was enacted in 1989. And a major player in the magazine’s story is a priest in the Philippines whom I wrote about in 2005 when investigating another global-trafficking phenomenon — the Catholic Church’s movement of sexual abuse suspects across international borders to escape justice.

    The priest, Monsignor Cristobal Garcia, is now quoted as explaining how to smuggle ivory into the United States:

    “Wrap it in old, stinky underwear and pour ketchup on it.” And if an icon won’t fit in a suitcase? Here’s how

    National Geographic‘s Bryan Christy summarizes Garcia’s advice: “I might get a certificate from the National Museum of the Philippines declaring my image to be antique, or I could get a carver to issue a paper declaring it

    to be imitation or alter the carving date to before the ivory ban.”Garcia also made provocative comments when I interviewed him about why he fled the U.S. in 1985. He admitted having sex with altar boys and supplying them with drugs

    The Catholic sex abuse cases are a series of convictions, trials and investigations into allegations of child sexual abuse Crimes committed by Catholic priests and members of Roman Catholic orders against children as young as 3 years old with the majority between the ages of 11 and 14.

  • jgl414567

    The Catholic church has become anachronistic or out of synch with the majority of the Filipino people. It has aggravated its obsolescence by supporting candidates like Honasan and Mitos!

  • kishbuff

    Lumabas na rin ang mga bastardong mga pari!!!!

  • Manuel_II

    As a Roman Catholic (Non-Practicing, LOL), i humble ask everyone not to go and pray on Roman Catholic Churches the wicked institution and instead pray at the comfort of your home without these gay and political priests.

    • Filpino

      naks as roman catholic ka pa nyan ha. For your info kundi ka rin lang nagsisimba eh hindi ka catholic, wala naman bayad pumasok sa simbahan bat di ka pumasok at magsimba.

      ayaw mong makakita ng baklang pari, bakit sila ba pinupunta mo sa simbahan?

      wicked institution ba turing mo sa catholic church na sa buong mundo ay numero uno sa mga charitable works kahit sa mga lugar na hindi katoliko. Alam mo ba sa USA mas marami pang mga tulong ang binibigay ng simbahang katoliko duon kaysa sa gobyerno nila, tulad ng FREE Education, FREE Medical, FREE MEal at FREE home care. Kaya bang ibigay yan ng sektang kinabibilangan mo? Hung-hang

      • Manuel_II

        And who are you to judge who is Roman Catholic and who is not, wow, elib ako saiyo lakas ng powers mo nauuL0L ka na ata, LOL, your wicked institution has initiated centuries of inquisition which includes torture and burning, LOL. turo ka ng turo, mga katoliko sa US di nangengealam sa politika ungas, di katulad sa pilipinas, di na nga nag bibigay ng tulong sa mga mahihirap gusto pa sila paramihin, engot, LOL

      • jorgii0550

        I also don’t go to Church except for occasions like weddings , baptismal, etc.
        Like Manuel millions of Catholics just prefers to pray in our home or some quite place.

        This priest are the reason why nakakawalang ganang magsimba……why would you waste your time to hear a mass given by hypocrites? Do you think they can help you and your love ones to be closer to God when they for sure will go to hell?

        Lots of priest are living in a luxurious lifestyle, some of them have multiple girlfriends, they have children, drunkards , addicted to gambling , etc…..but worst of all the Catholic church is known as an institution who is a haven for pedophiles……Some will say not all priest is like that but that’s the sad part they have done nothing to stop them and in the process they are guilty by association……The Catholic church has already lost their moral authority.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilMx7k7mso What, Me worry?

        saan naman galing yung mga ibinibigay na “tulong ” ng “simbahan”?

      • kokak

        .
        Malay ba natin kung mas marami silang naitutulong kesa naibibigay eh hindi naman sila ino-audit. Hindi rin sila nagbabayad ng tax. KOleksyon lang ng koleksyon. Buti pa yung homeowners association namin nao-audit, pag may nawawalang isanlibong piso kakasuhan na ng korupsyon. Ang church di natin alam.

        Malalaman natin kung talagang nakakatulong ang church sa bayan (o sa kanilang sarili lamang) kung papayag silang maaudit ng SGV, at ipahayag ang lahat ng kanilang koleksyon at perang inilalabas sa pilipinas papunta sa roma.

        Tama, iaudit lahat ng Church! Pati Iglesia at born again.
        .

      • Filpino

        madali mo naman mapapatunayan kung binubulsa ng mga kaparian ang mga donation sa simbahan. Una, sumali ka as officers ng simbahan, kapag ikaw ang nanalong treasurer hawak mo ang pera ng isang parish church. hindi naman pari ang may hawak ng pera sa mga donations, sila lang ang magsusugest kung anong mga projects ang dapat pondohan then pagbotohan pa ng mga officers na hindi naman mga pari. At pangalawa, tingnan mo klung paano mamuhay ang mga retired ng pari. yung mga hindi na nagmimisa dahil maysakit na at matanda na. Tingnan mo kung san sila nakatira at anong pamumuhay meron sila sa dapit-hapon ng kanilang buhay. Then saka mo naman i compare sa buhay mayroon ang mga pastor mo.

      • frudo

        bakit kailangan i compare eh pare parehas lang sila, diba pero wag na natin silipin yun pera, kasi lahat nman sila nagkapera,, ang silipin nalang eh yun pakikialam nito sigang relihiyon na to sa gobyerno, manahimik sila at di sila pakikialaman or sisilipin man lang, di na panahon ng kastila ngyon,

  • Manuel_II

    We should pack all Roman Catholic Priests inside a C-140 planes and drop them in the middle of Pacific Ocean by ridding our selves of these pests can we truly move forward.

  • AllinLawisFair

    Ano kaya kung bigyan ni Pangulong Aquino ng SUV itong Bishop Vicente Navarra ba ito? Sigurado kong biglang titikom ang bibig niya o kaya ay magkampanya para sa RH Law.

    Pero malas niya. Hindi na si Gloria Arroyo ang nakaupo sa palasyo at hinding hindi bibigyan ni PNoy ng anumang pabuya ang sinumang mga obispo na na walang hinahangad kundi ang pansariling kabutihan.

    Anyway, batas na ang RH Law kaya wala nang magagawa ang mga Damasong ito.

  • joshmale2004

    We are a democratic country and every one has the right to express himself. The Catholic priests are just exercising this right. But whether, their cause will have an effect as to their candidates making the magic 12 remains to be seen..

  • Jonboris Aragon

    benggador talaga ng gobyerno natin ang mga pari, akala kc nila nasa panahon pa sila ng mga prayle!! stop bullying our government !!! concentrate with your ministerial pinababayaan nyo member nyo na kayo dapat ang lumingap sa kanila kabig lang kayo
    ng kabig parang manok. kaya pala wala kayong maisagot sa bible…

  • dbgner

    Art. III Section 6. The separation of Church and State shall be inviolable. — Philippine Constitution.

    Art. VI Sec. 28(3) Charitable institutions, churches and personages or convents
    appurtenant thereto, mosques, non-profit cemeteries, and all lands,
    buildings, and improvements, actually, directly, and exclusively used
    for religious, charitable, or educational purposes shall be exempt from
    taxation. — PH Constitution. (So, that diocese should start paying taxes?)

    “If it (civil authority) presumes to control or restrict religious activity, it must be said to have exceeded the limits of its power,” — Dignitatis Humanae

    Is the act of campaigning for any candidates considered a religious activity? No. Is it a political act. Yes.

    Is the COMELEC restricting religious activity by interceding on the Team Buhay/Patay poster? No.

  • Engr. Chatto

    Shame on the Catholic church of the philippines, They are meddling the politics in the philippines. When the Phil. Govt. act any moves towards the church they will cry for the constitutionality of any moved citing the separation of religion and state but now they are muddling and intervening the legal rights of the Filipino people worst is they even preach it in church what a shame… To hell with this priest chanting for the abolition of the RH bill. In fact they dont even bother to look on the population of the Philippines which is no. 12 in the world as the most populated country,rather they ignore the kids begging in the streets for foods … They just even closed their eyes when most fetuses carried out by an illegal abortion dumps in front doors of so many churches… I will say,to hell with them coz they do not even pay their taxes of all their belongings and properties in the Philippines while the middle class Juan de la Cruz pay their taxes deligently…They did not even bother to help victims of fires and typhoons or abused children.. What they think is the collections in every mass never been accounted and brought directly to the Vatican so that the vultures living in that place will enjoy life to the fullest..They very quick in rallying against a legitimate law tend to curve the uncontrollable population.. They should even help the campaign for this and thanking the govt. of doing this but no … What they thinks is the more people the more catholics and the more collections… They did not even bother to confront pedophiles and gay clergy on their line even worst rescue them from prosecution and hide the truth and let them back again their norms as if nothing happens… Is this the teaching of God…To all the Catholic priest Im a catholic by birth, before, if I meet one of you as if Im in heaven but now if I meet one of you.. You just seem to be an scalawag policemen or a dirty politician nothing different..I will blutantly say this to all your faces to hell with you all.. may all your souls rotten in hell if their is any… Mind your own bussiness and let the Phil govt. do their job and let yours to be done.. Help people, let every donation counts dont live in luxurios life and dont be having an illicit affair with the women in your congregation especially minors..Could you see that before fixing others mistakes let yours inside the congregation be fixed and to help the govt. pay your taxes you idiot.. dont hide in the cloak of mastery between the separation of the state and religion.. By doing so you can help so many PINOYS and and also you can earned back my respect.. Educated filipino who are truth seekers knows how bad the catholic religion is thats why so may people now dont go to church including me because hearing every sunday the lies on the sermons youve spoken.. Your own interest is what you protecting again SHAME on you all..You may all rot in hell

  • joerizal

    “Magsaysay said the RH law was not necessary because its provisions were already in the Magna Carta of Women.” – so ibig sabihin hindi anti-RH si Magsaysay kasi ok lang sa kanya ang Magna Kuwarta, este Carta? So paano napunta sa Team Buhay yan?

  • Engr. Chatto

    You spitfire is nothing but a loser you could not even divulged your identity.. team pinoys so far are lined with uncorrupt people but on the UNA side only Binay is not tainted all of them are corrupt from the leaders Estrada, Enrile down to its Lined up.. So why did you attack a respectable president are you an IDIOT or just a moron like the CBCP…

  • Engr. Chatto

    Para sa yo Juan dalandan tama ka ang CBCP noon ay gigil kay Honasan sa mga ginawa nya sa bayan ngayon ayan at katabi na ng mga pari at sobra pa pati na rin si Bong sa susunod na senatorial election dahil pro life din c Bongbong marcos nasaan na ang kanilang delikadeza mas masahol pa cla sa politician kung magpalit ng kulay maisulong lang ang kanilang gusto para magkaroon na naman cla ng clout sa mga ito at madiktahan ano man ang gusto ng simbahan… SHAME on this PRIEST

  • Engr. Chatto

    To all voters if you vote on team buhay endorsed by CBCP you are voting a person who have no freedom of expression but a puppet to this arrogants, hiding in the cloak of divinity…which they could command for their own interest…..and for the year to come more and more puppets will be into the government…and they will say alleluya we control now the govt. so they are now indespensible..Very clear endoresment means control…

  • CyberPinoy

    IBASURA ang mga PAKEALAMERONG PARI at CBCP !!!!

  • Ros Feliciano

    Yes
    I agree with anyone who says that the root cause of why our country is poor because
    of corruption. However, it is only one of the root causes. We cannot close our
    eyes on what we can easily see people dwelling in and on the streets. The
    Church has moral obligation to help the state in terms of providing guidance
    for the state to make and maintain our people healthy so they can worship God
    better instead of spending practically all their times searching for foods to
    feed their children three times a day; and what does this mean? It means that
    they cannot worship God any more. Many of those who represent God on earth
    enjoy all the titles befitting on them but they are blind in recognizing that
    they have obligation to spread the Gospels to those who dwell in the streets,
    and to help the state. Jesus did not require us to attend Church service during
    Sunday and do offering. The Church owns universities and they institute barriers
    that the children of the poor cannot be enrolled because their parents cannot
    afford to pay very high school fees, and yet the Church does not pay taxes. They
    educate the children of the rich to be government officials who guide the
    destiny of the nation with corrupt practices; this is what the Church
    universities are doing. What Christ said in the Scripture is that we need to
    meditate solemnly and privately where we can spiritually talk to God. Christ
    Jesus did not own a house. He slept in the open area of Judea and Jerusalem.
    But why in spite of owning many universities, paying no taxes to the state,
    live in concrete houses like mansion and amid them are filthy shanties where
    poor people dwelling, the Church is in enmity with the government that is doing
    monumental task to uplift the living condition of the poor. Okay I agree that if
    indeed the Church is convinced that our population will reach no limitation,
    then the Church must come out with meaningful solution. They close their eyes
    as they passed-by the filthy dwelling places of the poor pretending that
    nothing bothers them. Yes like the Jews who did not like to associate with
    Gentiles and Samaritans in the times of Christ Jesus; indeed we have modern
    Pharisees among us today. But don’t misunderstand about what I am saying here.
    I was born a Catholic, an Atenean, I know my faith, and will never ever leave
    my Catholic faith. I cannot be taken for a ride by those pseudo Christians who
    are against my faith to leave my faith.

  • CyberPinoy

    The others on the Team Buhay list are Joseph Victor Estrada.

    – anak ng !@!% mga demonyo bakit nyo i-endorse ang isang taong magnanakaw at convicted criminal. This is everything that is wrong with the reasoning on CBCP !! Filipino people should not follow this kind of endorsements.

  • Engr. Chatto

    Jinx You are absolutely correct.. 10000000 percent and I salute for that

  • kumilos_tayo

    Ungasan, Mitos lang siya (she is not MAGSAYSAY), JV Estrada yan ba ang mga taong endorse ng Catholic mahiya naman sila wag niyong gamitin ang simbahan Father(priest) wala kayong pinag kaiba ng pari nung panahon ng kastila..

  • PennEngineer

    To Mr. Honasan: Yes we must repair our damaged institutions. Let us start with the most important – our democratic institution. So that our politicians and the Roman Ctholic heirarchy should understand that we have the freedom to choose; and that we have a Constitution that should guide our country – not the Vatican.

    To Mr. De los Reyes: We will have better family relationships and wellbeing if parents could plan the number of children they can afford to give attention to, care for, educate, house and nurture. And if our children have good upbringing, we can be assured of the morals of the Filipino.

  • Engr. Chatto

    I agree with you ros feliciano Im also a catholic by faith ,, but what was happening now in the congregation is a dismay…

  • Engr. Chatto

    Ztefertilizer scam ..grabe no sobra sobra ang pera tapos ni konting abuloy sa mga naghihikahos o kaya sa mga nasunugan o kaya sa mga nasalanta ng bagyo o baha o kaya sa mga biktima ng karahasan d man lang makabigay kahit kusing tapos d pa nagbabayad ng buwis ANO ba yan tapos mangangampanya pa para iboto ang mga kandidatu na maging tuta nila pag nasa Senado na …

  • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

    Wala namang trabaho sila fathers diba? Saan sila kumukuha ng pang-print ng mga tarpaulins endorsing politicians?

    Sila fathers daw ang kumakatawan kay Hesus sa lupa, at sa mga political affairs.

    Boses daw nila fathers ay boses ni Hesus.

    Hesus(through father): “Caesar, alam mo na yung para sa akin, ako na bahala nung para sa iyo. Basta masaya ako, Masaya ka rin tuwing eleksyon $;-)>”

    • Filpino

      para lang si bro eli soriano at kapatid na manalo pati na rin si bro eddie villanueva, mga walang trabaho pero tingnan mo, si eli soriano nasa Brazil saan sya kumukuha ng dolyares panggastos nya duon; si kapatid na manalo wala ring work pero tingnan mo naman ang mga mansyon nya at mga dekalidad na sasakyan; si bro eddie v. wala ring work pero ilang beses kumandidato.

      so sino ngayon ang malakas mang-uto sa miembro?

      • UrHONOR

        KATOLIKO! Basahin mo…..

        The Bank Investments Of Different Dioceses

        Diocese / Church Foundation Company # Shares Owned Rank in Top 100 Total Investment Value

        ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 222,843,681 4th PHP12.724 Billion

        ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (REAL CASA DE MISERICORDIA) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 41,408,841 8th PHP2.364 Billion

        ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA (HOSPITAL DE SAN JUAN DE DIOS) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 22,072,182 13th PHP1.26 Billion

        ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (HOSPICIO DE SAN JOSE) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 6,016,624 15th PHP343.55 Million

        ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (HOSP DE SA JUAN DE DIOS) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 4,285,572 17th PHP244.71 Million

        ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (MAYORDOMIA DELA CATEDRAL) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 2,664,266 21st PHP152.13 Million

        ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (ST. PAUL`S HOSPITAL) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 1,772,418 26th PHP101.21 Million

        CARMEL OF THE DIVINE INFANT JESUS OF PRAGUE, INC. Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 726,819 49th PHP41.50 Million

        EL SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION FILIPINA DE PADRES AGUSTINOS RECOLETOS Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 551,382 60th PHP31.48 Million

        ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF JARO Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 491,385 64th PHP28.06 Million

        EL SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION FILIPINA DE PADRES AGUSTINOS RECOLETOS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 2,370,000 31st PHP260.70 Million

        SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION ARCHICOFRADIA DE N.P.J.N DE RECOLETOS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 1,234,603 75th PHP135.81 Million

        CARMEL OF THE DIVINE INFANT JESUS OF PRAGUE, INC. San Miguel Corp (SMC) 957,516 79th PHP105.33 Million

        ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TUGUEGARAO San Miguel Corp (SMC) 856,639 81st PHP94.23 Million

        REAL MONASTERIO DE LA PURISIMA CONCEPCION DE NUESTRA MADRE SANTA CLARA DE MANILA San Miguel Corp (SMC) 809,834 83rd PHP89.08 Million

        SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION DE PADRES RECOLETOS POR BECAS Y VOCACIONES San Miguel Corp (SMC) 621,702 89th PHP68.39 Million

        CARMEL OF ST THERESE OF THE CHILD JESUS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 592,956 91st PHP65.23 Million

        THE DISCALCED CARMELITE NUNS OF CEBU San Miguel Corp (SMC) 451,864 95th PHP49.71 Million

        ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF NUEVA SEGOVIA DE VIGAN San Miguel Corp (SMC) 428,067 98th PHP47.09 Million

        ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA Philex Mining Corp (PX) 3,221,135 15th PHP66.68 Million

        RELIGIOUS OF THE VIRGIN MARY – B Philex Mining Corp (PX) 3,125,777 16th PHP64.70 Million

        RELIGIOUS OF THE VIRGIN MARY-A Philex Mining Corp (PX) 1,091,027 69th PHP22.58 Million

        ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TUGUEGARAO Ayala Corporation (AC) 24,015 73rd PHP9.29 Million

        KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS FRATERNAL ASSOCIATION OF THE PHILS, INC. Ayala Corporation Preferred Shares – A (ACPA) 60,000 2nd PHP31.80 Million

        ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TAGBILARAN Ayala Corporation Preferred Shares – B (ACPR) 10,000 64th PHP1.02 Million

        DAUGHTERS OF CHARITY OF ST. VINCENT DE PAUL PHINMA Corp. (PHN) 159,575 19th PHP2.12 Million

        ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF THE DIOCESE OF JUAN DE DIOS PHINMA…

      • frudo

        eh di sila lahat ano pa ba! tanong ka pa kala mo lulusot ang relihiyon mo

  • mave

    Yeeeepeee OK LANG CORRUPT BASTA ANTI RH KA LANG….lol

  • Rolly257

    The more the Church imposed their twisted political beliefs, the more they lose their disgruntled parishioners.

  • Noel

    Junk the Catholic Church !

  • sk2tk

    BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES!!! HAHAHA.

  • sk2tk

    TIgnan nyo ang KABULUKAN ng SIMBAHAN, dibale ng BOBO, CORRUPT at IMMORAL, basta kumontra lng sa RH BILL, eh SUPORTADO na.. HAHA. GANYAN KAGUNGGUNG ANG MGA NAGPAPATAKBO NG SIMBAHAN ( ONLY IN THE PHILIPPINES )

  • mamer2

    “Birds of the Same Feathers…, FLOCK TOGETHER.!”
    Looking at Many of the Members of the “Rooster of Celebrities” attending
    this Anti-RH Rally made me decide were I SHALL STAND/Vote.!

  • sk2tk

    siguro kung maglalaban sa botohan between GMA and CATHOLIC CHURCH, baka makasilat pa si GMA, HAHAHAHA…

    • ayupayupan77

      malamang pare……..kasi si gma kahit nuknukan ng corrupt……di ginagamit salita ng DIOS sa pagkamkam ng pera ng mga mahihirap

  • BatangSingapore

    tandaan nyo kayong mga bobotante. huwag na huwag kayo maniniwala na sinasabi ng kandidato na isa lang sila na dapat ninyong isingit sa inyong balota.

    hindi dahil 12 senador ang kailangan iluklok ay dapat 12 din iboto nyo. kung tatlo (3) lang napili nyo ay yun lang iboto ninyo. ang tawag diyan solid vote.

    huwag nyo ng isingit pa sa inyong balota ang team patay aka team abnoy lalong lalo na ang pinsan ni abnoy at tiyahin nya. NO TO POLITICAL DYNASTY NO TO AQUINO/COJUANGCO.

    • frudo

      sama mo rin si binay sa political dynasty rin yun, mas garapal na political dynasty

  • tongky80

    there is no such thing as a catholic vote, regardless of their contempt against those who voted for the RH Bill the senators will be re-elected.

    • brunogiordano

      “there is no such thing as a catholic vote”

      meron naman daw.

      boto ng mga alipin ni DAMASO.

      tawag sa kanila maka-DAMASO.

      • ayupayupan77

        o kaya ay……..ASO NI DAMASO…………….

  • BURADOR

    CATHOLIC INTERFERING in ELECTION will BACKFIRE on their FACE—
    This DAMASSOS SHOWS its HUNGER for POWER instead of MORAL GUIDANCE to Pilipino people—

    • ayupayupan77

      palibhasa kasi papakaunti na nang papakaunti mga katoliko sa europa …….kay pinapipilitan nilang dumami mga katoliko sa mga mahihirap na bansa

  • TheStaple

    it’s too late Padre Damasos! GET OVER IT!

  • Mang Teban

    There is the RH law under suspension for implementation.

    The Philippines has a constitution that guarantees freedom of expression.

    There is the Supreme Court whose justices have to hear yet the oral arguments for and against the RH law.

    –> Obviously, those who are hitting the Catholics and the Catholic Church in this forum cannot wait until the Supreme Court justices make a decision on the TRO on the RH law.

    –> Obviously, those who are maligning the Church are sowing hatred by attacking even a small assembly of Filipinos in Bacolod which shows disrespect for the right of assembly and right of religion granted to the citizens in the present constitution of this republic.

    –> Obviously, those who are discrediting the Catholic clergy are veering away from the issue and using the same dirty tactics of black propaganda.

    Impatience over the judicial system, ignorance on the rights of citizens, and impunity to destroy the Catholic institution – Do these anti-Catholics have anything better to employ to tackle the issue that the RH law? Or, are these the only grounds for argument that they can come up with?

    Wait lang po sa magiging desisyon ng Korte Suprema. Masama ba pa yun na magsagawa ng maliit na rally ang Bacolod diocese laban sa RH law? Kung sa tingin ninyo tama ang RH law, gumawa rin kayo ng MALAKING rally para ipakita ang inyong mga damdamin. Bakit malakas lang ang loob ninyo magkomento pero kulang naman kayo sa gawa? Ipagmalaki ninyo ang mga condoms na ginagamit sa inyong mga lalaki at mga pills na iniinom sa inyong mga babae. Ipagyabang ninyo na epektibo ang contraception sa pamilya ninyo na ang mga teenager sa inyo ay binibigyan ng condoms at pills na panghanda sa kani-kanilang lakad sa motel ng inyong mga nakakatatanda na mga “responsible parents”. Baka matalo pa ang mga kandidato ninyo kung di ninyo ipaglalaban sila na may malasakit (daw) sa mahihirap…baka na naman isisi ninyo sa Simbahang Katolika kung malaglag sila 12 na mga ihahalal na senador. O, galaw-galaw…di puro sulat ng komento.

    • kumilos_tayo

      Stupid comment hindi sila anti catholic anti padre damaso sila.. Dumi ng isip mo..

      • Mang Teban

        Wala bang matinong kausap dito na pro-RH? Sinabi ko na nga na wala na kayong alam kungdi manira sa pagkatao ng mga Katoliko at pari, heto isang asong u l o l nakawala at nagpakawala ng walang kuwentang sagot.

      • kumilos_tayo

        Lumabas yung tunay mong ugali.. Kunwari maganda at mabait pero tingnan mo lumabas sa bibig mo..

      • Mang Teban

        ang nagsasabi ako ng tapat…ang asong u l o l ay wala sa sarili.
        kung matino kang kausap, sa isyu ka lang nakatuon ng sagot sa komento ko…hindi para tawagin mong madumi ang isip ko…Matino ka ba?

      • UrHONOR

        PINAGPAPASENSYAHAN na lang ang ganyang may kurkubadong kaisipan….huwag mo ng sayangin ang panahon mo dahil para kang kumakausap sa batong-patay. You can not force a horse to drink….nor a blind to to see.

      • brunogiordano

        “….isang asong u l o l nakawala at nagpakawala ng walang kuwentang sagot.”

        SALITA at pagugusap ng isang maka-DAMASO.

      • Mang Teban

        Damasito, Damasito, pare-parehong kayong mapagkunwari…kala mo nasasaktan sa isang paghahambing ng isang taong walang bukang-bibig kungdi manira sa pagkatao ng nagkokomento tulad nito si “kumilos_tayo”…o, kilos na..ano, puro yabang lang kayo. mag-organize din kayo ng rally ..gawin ninyo na ipagyabang na dalisay ang hangarin ninyo…tulad mo, walang ginawa kungdi pansinin ang kaparian. Ang Simbahang Katolika, paulit-ulit kong sinasabi kasi di mo maipasok sa kokote mo, 0.001% clergy..99.999% HINDI PARI..isa lang ang Simbahan na nakapaloob sa aming layko at kaparian..Bastusan ba ang laro ng pro-RH?…Binabastos mo rin ang Diyos sa kadahilanan na si Hesus ang nagtatatag ng Sacraments of Holy Orders at Holy Eucharist na ang PARI lang ang inutusan na mag-administer ng mga ito…kaya, kapag binabastos mo ang kaparian, binabastos mo rin ang Diyos. Wala sa atin ang may karapatan manghusga sa mga taong nagkasala tulad mo, ako, at ang kaparian na nagkasala. Sana maliwanagan ka na….kung hindi pa, bahala ka na sa sarili mo.

      • kumilos_tayo

        HAHAHA sino bang naninira di ba yung PARI mo at ikaw yung lumalabas nga sa bunganga mo eh madumi eh.. Alam mo ikaw lang ang nag iisip na binastos ang Diyos at maari ba wag mong gamitin yan.. Ikaw ang hindi gumagalang.. Bakit ako mag oorganize ng Rally para magkaroon ng traffic, manggulo sa bayan, mas makakabuti pa na aasikasuhin ko mga free services ko para sa mahihirap hindi tulad ng PARI kahit corrupt susuportahan niya dahil lang hindi nasunod gusto nila walang pinag kaiba yun sa PARI ng panahon ng KASTILA.. Masasabi mo din na binastos ni JOSE RIZAL ang Diyos nung panahon ng KASTILA..

      • Mang Teban

        wala ka na naman sa sarili…pinipilit mong baluktutin ang mali.
        ginagago mo sarili mo …rally ka sa loob ng bulwagan o sa Rizal Park kaya para walang trapik…Duwag. o, hayan, nadagdagan ang tawag ko sa iyo…totoo lang …dinuduwag ka..may panahon ka pa ng kupong-kupong, panahon ng Kastila???

      • kumilos_tayo

        Hindi mo lang nakuha yung point ko… HAHAHA

      • ayupayupan77

        katoliko po ako…….mahal ko ang mga katoliko…………pero hate ko yung mga DAMASO

    • Ismail Tolosa

      tagal na ang debate regarding RH bill. Maganda naman ang RH law, kapag binasa mo ng maigi. Problem with most laymen is that “sobra na silang nabrainwash ng simbahan to believing that pulpit leaders/ preachers are beyond doubt and everything they say is from heaven”.. pag tamad ka nga namang sa paghanap sa katotohanan aasa ka nalang sa sasabihin ng nakararami o di kaya kung ano ang sasabihin ng mga taong malakas ang tiwala sa sarili kesa sayo.

      • Mang Teban

        Excuse me po…hmmm.
        The problem is not with the preachers or pastors or priests or anyone who is teaching matters on morals based on scriptures and coming from Christ Jesus.
        The problem is with the utter disregard to the Word of God but on their own convenient explanation that ails the world today. The RH law could have been a good law had it truly fought for genuine maternal and infantile care..what for is it called Reproductive Health Law? On the contrary, the RH law signed by PNoy is not about reproductive health and neither is it for improving healthcare in public hospitals where 11 mothers die (and, in some cases, including the unborn infants or babies who die postnatal) per day.
        It is a pretentious law that aims nothing but NO PREGNANCY as a national policy. Where is the reproductive health aspect there? No pregnancies mean automatically better reproductive systems? No way. Pills have been known to worsen the reproductive system of the female instead of leaving it as natural and normal as it was created by the Divine Creator. God had already designed that females have infertile periods so that she and her HUSBAND can make love unhampered without the use of chemicals in pills or synthetic plastic found in condoms.
        Priests and bishops are shepherds in the Catholic Church similarly as imams to Islam or rabbis to Judaism, etc. Why do you think that those who listen to Catholic priests do not have a mind of their own?
        Mali po kayo para pag-isipan na sunod-sunuran lang ang mga layko sa Simbahang Katolika…nagkakamali po kayo sa akala. Sa katunayan, sa Catholic Church pa nga ang totoong freedom of choice. walang sapilitan sa mga Katoliko. Subalit, dapat naman maintindihan mo na malaki ang pananagutan ng bawat Katoliko kay Kristo Hesus kung pipiliin niya ang contraception na maliwanag ng tutol ang Diyos. Sabi nga, tawag ka ng tawag na “Lord, Lord” pero di mo naman sinunod ang utos ng Diyos? Di ba taliwas ito sa totoong pagkatao natin kung susuwayin mo rin naman pala ang Panginoon?

      • Jane Tan

        I still maintain that teaching a mother to think twice about giving birth to a child that she cannot hope to support is part of reproductive health – to the current child and to future generations of the family.

      • Mang Teban

        The Catholic Church respects freedom of conscience. On the contrary, the RH law does not respect freedom of conscience because it has made a national policy to institute masquerading “reproductive health programs” which are meant to reduce pregnancies and overturn any citizen’s personal choices on what family program he or she prefers. With the shameful provision to distribute condoms and pills at an estimated annual cost of 13 billion pesos, the RH law does not speak for MARRIED COUPLES because it plans to “teach” children from Grade 5 to Grade 12 about SAFE SEX. Now, tell me, where does the genuineness of concern by the RH legislators can we find when maternal deaths of 11 mothers per day are equated as “irresponsibility”? Should the government not focus on how to save lives? No pregnancies is not saving lives. It is preventing lives.

        If the RH law had not appropriated for a horrendous amount of people’s money for a one-sided national policy of contraception and had legislated for buying medical equipment and hiring competent health professionals to attend to maternal and infantile care, then that is the real REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH LAW. But, as it was designed, the concern for dying and at risk pregnant mothers is at the BOTTOM of priorities while it banners on TOP its premise precisely on the “poor mothers”. The prescription to save to save lives is to stop births?.It sucks, Jane Tan.

      • ayupayupan77

        kaso di po lahat ng pilipino ay katoliko……………..

      • frudo

        kung magaaswa kayong mga bishop at mga priest baka sakaling mapaniwala nyo pa ako kung safe nga method na tinuturo ninyo, sa inyo dapat mag simula, hindi puro sermon kyo tungkol sa pagpapamilya na mismong kayo di nyo pa nararanasan, tignan ko lang kung di kayo gumamit ng pills or condom pag sampu na anak nyo na di nyo na mapakain,

      • ayupayupan77

        dapat kasi inilagay sa rh law na……….ok lang hipuan ni padrush si sakristan

    • kokak


      I agree. Ok lang na makialam ang church sa political issues.
      PERO MAGBAYAD NAMAN SILA NG TAX. Hindi naman sila mahirap.
      Ang mga kababayan nating OFW padala ng padala ng pera.
      Ang church naman patapon ng patapon ng pera para sa Vatican sa Roma.

      • speaksoftlylove

        If that is your wish, you amend the Constitution so that the Church will be obliged to pay taxes. Walang mangyayari kung hanggang “Kkkak” ka lang dyan,

      • Mang Teban

        Sidetracking the issue again…kung nagbabayad ng taxes ang Church at nagrally laban sa immoralidad ng lipunan, may hangal ka pa rin sigurado..gagamitin mo na naman ang gasgas na argumento na “Separation of Church and State”..ikaw ba nagbabayad ng tamang buwis? Kung ginagawa mo ito, mayroon ka na bang karapatan na pakialaman ang mga paniniwala ng Catholic Church kasi taxpayer ka na? Nasaan naman ang respeto ninyo sa karapatan na ihayag ang saloobin ng isang mananampalataya sa Diyos? Nasaan ang respeto ninyo sa karapatan na ihayag ang pagkontra sa kontrasepyon na ayon sa turo ni Kristo Hesus? Nasaan ang koneksyon ng pagbayad sa buwis na ngayon pwede na ipakalat ang condom at pills kasi mas marami sa pro-RH na taxpayer? Ni di mo alam kung papaano na kaya ang mundong ito kung puro pagkontra sa Diyos ang magiging batayan basta pagbayad ka lang ng buwis…ganito ba ang sukatan?

      • frudo

        paki sagot lang to, kasalanan ba sa Dios ang isang mag asawa na gumamit ng condom or pills para magplano ng pamilya, yan ba tlga ang turo ng Dios or turo lng ng relihiyon nyo?

      • Mang Teban

        Ano ang alam mong itinuro sa iyo na Salita ng Diyos kung bakit ka nabuhay na tao?

        Naniniwala ka ba na bago pa man ikaw nabuo sa sinapupunan ng iyong ina ay pinili ka na ng Diyos?

        Naniniwala ka ba na ang Diyos ang lumilikha ng buhay sa lahat kahit na sa di maabot ng ating kaalaman kung bakit pati ang mga sanggol na “unwanted pregnancies” ay nabubuhay?

        Naniniwala ka ba na ang Diyos ang nag-ukit sa katawan ng lalaki at babae?

        Naniniwala ka ba na ginawa ng Diyos na may mga araw na “infertile” ang babae at pwede siyang makipagtalik sa ASAWA NIYA (hindi sa kabit) upang laging masaya at maligaya ang mag-asawa na walang takot na mabuntis? Ito ang NATURAL family planning galing sa kamay ng Diyos.

        Kung naniniwala ka sa lahat ng nakasaad sa taas, alam mo dapat ang sagot sa sarili mong tanong.

        Kung hindi ka naniniwala, kaya pala sang-ayon ka sa condom at pills.

        Wala naman iniimbento ang kaparian sa pagturo ng tamang pamumuhay kung di galing sa Salita ng Diyos. Kayo na mapanghusga sa mga pari at obispo na gawa-gawa lang ng relihiyon. Ang relihiyon ay tatak ng pananampalataya sa Diyos. Kung ikaw ay atheist o nagdududa sa kapangyarihan sa Diyos, wala ka talagang pananampalataya at ang paniwala mo ay gawa-gawa lang ng sarili mong guniguni.

      • frudo

        yes or no lang ang sagot sa tanong ko wag mo nako leturan,, uulitin ko ulit kasalanan ba sa Dios ang gumamit ng condom or pills sa pagplaplano ng pamilya, bakit di mo masagot ng deretcho, YES OR NO, KASALANAN BA OR HINDI?

      • frudo

        may asawa ako at wala akong kabit, pero gumamit ng condom at pills nagplano kami ng pamilya kaya magnda buhay ng mga anak ko, di sila palaboy laboy nakabihis sila ng maayos, kumakain sila sa tamang oras, kahit di ako mayaman, desente ang pamumuhay namin, kaya ko tinatanong sayo kung kasalanan ba sa Dios ang gumamit ng pilss or condom sa pagplaplanog ng legal na mag asawa ng pamilya,, YES OR NO, BAKIT DI MO MASAGOT NG DERETCHO, SAGUTIN MO MANG TEBAN,

      • Mang Teban

        Kahit na malinaw na kasalanan sa Diyos na baguin ang plano Niya sa pamamagitan ng paggamit ng artificial na paraan sa SPACING BIRTHS, ang Diyos lamang ang tanging makapaghuhusga sa mga ginawa mo.

        Kaya po, mahal ka pa rin ng Diyos at tinupad din niya na regaluhan ka ng magandang pamilya dahil tapat ka sa asawa mo…wala kang kabit sabi mo.

        Ngunit, kung ang Diyos ang lumikha nang tao sa NATURAL MEANS, dapat sana ang tao ay sumunod din sa pagpaliban ng pagbubuntis ng asawang babae sa NATURAL MEANS. Dahil sa katigasan ng ulo ng tao, ginagamit pa ang talento sa agham para lumikha ng ARTIFICIAL MEANS tulad ng condoms at pills. Pasensya na po, talagang pagkokontra ang mga ito sa GAWAIN NG DIYOS. Kayo na po ang pumili kung alin ang tama o alin ang mali. Natural or artificial means.

      • frudo

        Dios naman pala ang huhusga sa tao eh di bakit di nyo nalang ipaubaya sa Dios ang panghuhusga sa tao, bakit kailangan nyo husgahan ng mga imbention ng tao, kung naimbento man ng tao ang pills or condom, bahala na ang Dios ang magparusa, since na hindi mo nman nasagot ng derectcho ang tanong ko it means na di ka sure kung kasalanan ba or hindi, nahiya ako sayo kas msyado ka malinis at nasusunod mo ang tamang pagtatalik, siguro marami kang anak dahil sa di ka gumagamit ng condom or pills, or nasusunod mo tlga yun safe method kaya baka konti rin lang anak mo. pero ang tanong kung may asawa ka na ba kung wala pa di sguro convincing na papiliin mo ang tao kung natural or artificial means ba kasi di mo na nararanasan mag ka asawa or magka pamilya

      • IsipPinoy

        Paki sagutin lang po ng derecho ang tanong ni frudo dahil ako po ay interesado.

      • ayupayupan77

        mang teban noong panahon po ni copernicus at galileo……….pina house arrest si galileo at sapilitang pinaretract yung mga sinabi nya tungkol sa ang mundo ay umiikot sa araw……………ilang daang taon na itiniwalag si copernikus tinawag siyang kampon ng dilim……etc etc……………..di po kaya ang pagtutol nyo sa rh law ay katulad din lamang noon na handa silang pumatay in the name of catholic church ( remember the crusades)

        ps pakisagot nga po tanong ni frudo……….baka maliwanagan ako

      • Mang Teban

        Di po ba tapos na ang isyu na ito? Umamin na po ang Simbahan na nagkamali sila..Ano pa gusto mo?
        Ang tagal na noon.. Naghahanap lang kayo ng kamalian..na walang kaugnayan sa kasalukuyang panahon.
        Ikaw ang nangangailangan ng kaliwanagan…usad na po…kungdi baka magkapigsa kayo. galaw-galaw na..21st century na..

      • frudo

        magkaiba ang nagpapahayag ng saloobin sa pakikialam at pang iimpuensya, ang bansa natin pinamumunuan ng mga tao na binoto ng taong bayan at hindi ng relihiyon na hindi nman lahat ng tao ay naniniwala, kaya kung magpapahayag ang relihiyon nyo ng di pag sang ayon sa batas ng tao, ok lang igagalang ko, pero pag makikialam na kayo at gagamitan nyo ng ng power, impluensya at mag eedorso pa ng mga korrupt na pulitiko, malinaw na pang ngengelam yan at hindi pagpapahayag lang ng saloobin, bakit di nyo nalang aminin na kaya nyo ginagawa yan ay dahil gusto nyo control nyo gobyerno maiintindihan pa siguro, kasya nman nagtatago pa kunwari againts laban sa pagsira ng moralidad, eh naku nasan pa kaya moralidad ng mga pinoy, meron pa ba? naituro ba?

      • Mang Teban

        Kawawa ka naman…mababaw ang tingin mo sa sarili mo.

        Pinoy ka, di ba? Wag mo na kaming isali sa pananaw mo na walang moralidad ang mga pinoy?

        Wala ka bang dignidad man lang para sabihin mo yun.

        Kahit pulubi o ikaos sa buhay may moralidad sa sarili kung sila ay umiiwas sa kasalanan at sa gawang mali.

        Ang mayaman pero magnanakaw di maitatago ang baho niya kahit damitan pa niya ng patong-patong ang katawan niya at magbango ng sangkatutak na mamahalin pabango.

        Kailan ba nakinig ang pulitiko sa Simbahan?

        Kung may impluwensiya ang Simbahang Katolika, matagal na naburo ang contraception bill at di na makababangon pa upang maging batas.

        Ang siste, panahon ni Cory walang magtangka na magpasok ng RH bill ..kaya inabot ng siyam-siyam bago ang ANAK pa niya mismo ang nag-udyok na ipasa ito…nakalulungkot.

        Kaya kasinungalingan na di mapasa ang RH bill noong panahon ni FVR, Erap at GMA dahil sa IMPLUWENSYA ng Katolikong Simbahan..MALI…Di makapasa kasi walang umiikot na pangako ng pork barrel na tiyak na dumating bago pa magbotohan sa Kongreso..Si Pangulong Noynoy Aquino lang ang NAG-IMPLUWENSYA kaya natuloy ang RH law. Walang nakikinig sa turo ng Diyos…Pero, kuwidaw ka..pag malapit nang mamatay ang mga mapagbalatkayo sa Kongreso….Saan tumatakbo? Lahat ng santo at misa ay naroroon para magdasal sa Diyos…peke.

        Wala nga sumusunod sa turo ng Diyos na ipinapahayag ng mga pastol sa Simbahan – kaparian at mga relihiyoso. Wala…puro pagkukunwari na maka-Diyos sila. Pansin mo ba na wala na sa campaign posters ng mga pro-RH ang katagang “MakaDiyos”? Tinangal nila sa hiya.

      • frudo

        mas kawawa ka kasi nagbubulag bulagan ka kya pala ilang dekada na ang relihiyon mo ang na produce mga corrupt na pulitiko,, pansinin mo mabuti ang paligid mo kung may moralidad pa ba,, mag mula sa relihiyon mo na nag eendorso ng corrupt na pulitiko, at sa mga pulitiko mo na ginawang family business ang pulitika, at mga tao na ginawang kubeta ang mga ilog, ginawang tindahan ng mga pampalaglag ang gilid ng simbahan, hinayaan ang mga anak ng sumama sa pedofile , kaya mas kawawa ka rin pinagtatangol mo ang relihiyon mo na napakataas ng moral.

    • dbgner

      Yes let’s wait. I’m sure the SC would look at the issue from the point of view of the action of the intellect and not from the point of view of morals.

      • Mang Teban

        sorry po, pero ang intellect ay daan lamang para mabuo mo ang pananaw mo sa moralidad. kaya po magdesisyon man ang Korte Suprema pabor o kontra sa RH law, gagamitin nga po ng mga juez ang kani-kanilang intellect pero ang desisyon nila ay usaping moral. Ang pagbabalewala ng RH law sa karapatan ng mga Katoliko na di – sumangayon sa kontrasepyon ay ang isyu na napapaloob sa karapatan pangtao sa Saligang Batas. Itong pambabastos ng Gobyerno na balewalain ang pananaw ng mayoridad ng mga mamamayan kahit pa man minoridad na ang mga Katoliko, dapat pa rin tingnan ng SC kung nag-violate ba ang Kongreso dito. Isyu pa rin po ay moralidad dahil sa ang karapatan ng mag-asawa pumili kung anong family planning method ang gusto nila ay isyu ng moralidad katulad ng pagturo ng safe sex sa kabataan ay isyu ng moralida….pati na ang kinabukasan ng mga pamilya na nakita na sa ibang bansa na may RH law ay isyu ng moralidad..dumami lalo ang divorce, abortion, teenage pregnancies sa maraming bansa ng ipasa sa kanila ang RH law. Isyu pa rin ng moralidad ng buong bansa. Kaya may pakialam ang Simbahan na nagtuturo ng tamang pamumuhay at pinalalakas ang pamilya. Salamat na rin sa komento mo na maghintay ang mga bumabatikos sa mga Katoliko na siyang nagfile ng petisyon na itigil ang implementasyon panandalian ng SC habang pakikinggan pa ang mga oral arguments pagkatpos ng halalan sa Mayo.

      • frudo

        tagal na nilang nakikialam ilang dekada na ang tanong? may moralidad ba mga pamilyang Pinoy, meron ba? or mataaas pa ba ang moral? hati hati na nga tayo eh sasabihin mo pa na ang simbahan nagtuturo ng moralidad,, hindi sila naging effectibo tumingin kalang sa palagid mo walang na produce ang simabahan na matinong pulitiko na sagana sa sermon. mga Pinoy na sinasabing relihiyoso lumaki sa catholic church, nasan now nandun sa muslim country nagpapaalila, yung iba nasa europe na halos di na niniwala sa relihiyon, nagpapaalipin na, so ano now ang pinagmamalaki ninyong moralidad na naituro nyo sa mga PInoy, mismong bansa natin di natin maayos. kung talgang maayos ang moralidad na naituro ng relihiyon nyo, magbubunga yan makikita ang kaayusan sa communidad,, pero bakit di nyo naitatanong sa sarili ninyo na pagka catholic contry mahirap na bansa at marumi.. yan ba ang tama.

      • dbgner

        Ito po’y kung ang basehan lang po natin ng moralidad (o etika) ay ang relihiyon. Paano naman po ang karapatan ng mga sa “maka-salanan”, mga divorcees, mga nabuntis na mga kabataan, mga nagpalaglag? Di ba may karapatan din sila?

        Sabi nga ni Simon Blackburn: “The Bible can be read as giving us a carte blanche for harsh attitudes to children, the mentally handicapped, animals, the environment, the divorced, unbelievers, people with various sexual habits, and elderly women.”

        Salamat sa panahon na inilaan mo para sa kasagutan sa aking komento.

      • frudo

        at parang di dumadami dito ang teenages pregnancy, paghihiwalay ng mga magulang,( hiwalay pero di lang divorce dahil walng divorce law) dami rin namamatay sa panganganak, dami rin nag papaabort ng bata ilibot mo nga mga mata mo at makikita mo na ang dami teenage pregnacy, hiwalay, nagpapaabort, batang ina, mga anak na walang nakukuhang support sa tatay dahil basta lang nambuntis at iniwan na sa ere, tamang pamumuhay ang tinuturo pero ano ang nangyari sa mga Pinoy, meron ba, may kaayusan ba, wala! wag nyo na pagmalaki moralidad na yan, dahil palpak as in palpak,

    • Ismail Tolosa

      The State likewise guarantees universal access to medically-safe, non-abortifacient, effective, legal, affordable, and quality reproductive health care services, methods, devices, supplies which do not prevent the implantation of a fertilized ovum as determined by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and relevant information and education thereon according to the priority needs of women, children and other underprivileged sectors, giving preferential access to those identified through the National Household Targeting System for Poverty Reduction (NHTS-PR) and other government measures of identifying marginalization, who shall be voluntary beneficiaries of reproductive health care, services and supplies for free.
      -republic act no 10354

      • Mang Teban

        Beautiful, is it not?

        However, those are ornamental decor in the RH law. Please remember that the person who signed this law is the president who spoke to rush this “top priority bill” while it was in Congress and only when the Catholic bishops stepped in to bring out some points on morality and respect to the unborn, PNoy had his loyal askals in Congress to amend and insert what you quoted “beautiful language”. Have you asked why there is a rush to implement 13 billion budget for condoms, pills, and other contraceptive contraptions? Why is there no mention of an equal “rush” to release funds for improving public hospitals which are the culprit for the statistical horror of ELEVEN MOTHERS who die daily? Surely, there will still be pregnancies, yes? But, the actuation is not the same as the apparent intent.

        Have we not witnessed a similar abomination of the past where Ferdinand Marcos signed an agreement with USAID in the mid-sixties to allow the USAID to set up centers for family planning which were, in fact, “abortion clinics” as medicines procured and distributed to expecting mothers were abortifacient? No one would admit to this but that is how some people in the US government think. Now, the USAID has stopped this practice. Now, we make our own RH law that will implement again the same “family planning programs” designed to make the manufacturers of pills and condoms doubly rich financed by taxpayers yearly. Do you find it beautiful, sir?

        Juan Flavier was being propped up to be the next president as he was the most popular DOH secretary and backed up by US the distribution of condoms and pills was record-high during his term. Sure this is not known by everyone…luckily he begged off due to “health problems”. Conscience must have stopped him from pursuing his ambition. Some Filipino friends of mine told me about this secret plan and they worked in USAID in the nineties. You can check again the new reports during his time and FVR’s to see the hand of America on the legislation to limit the population of our “poor” country. Absolute insincerity for those who are pushing the RH law.

      • Ismail Tolosa

        I stopped reading at ” PNoy had his loyal askals in Congress to amend and insert what you quoted “beautiful language”… usapang barbero na. lol

      • Mang Teban

        tulad mo ang lolo mong panot. in denial kayo pareho. takot o duwag sa katotohanan. Dadaanin sa patay-malisya.

        If you think that this government is clean of corruption, you must have been mesmerized a lot by the “daang matuwid” speeches.

        If you think that the principal authors of the RH law do not expect anything from the multinational companies doing business in condoms and pills, you are an easy target for “budol-budol”.

        Now, you laugh with all your might when these politicians start to get richer and the “beneficiaries of the RH law” get poorer and poorer.

      • frudo

        at ang religion nyo dahil sa pakikialam, panguuto, pangaalipin pang eendorso ng mga pulitiko get richer and richer at ang mga miyembro get poorer and poorer,

      • Ismail Tolosa

        I have been a devout catholic for 20+ years of my life Teban. I also attended the pro-life congress held by HLI Asia, facilitated by Rene Bullecer, I even have a certificate signed by him and Orsetes Monzon during my years as a diocesan seminarian. I am not in denial, the huge difference between you and me is that I am no longer Christian and as a Muslim, I see and can critique the the Roman Catholic Church more objectively. Also, I too am pro-lifer. I sincerely think that your judgement regarding the RH bill is clouded by your devotion to the RCC as you don’t want to listen to reason. Maybe I am wrong, and that you are right, and that indeed Eugenics exists and they control the worldbank and that they are behind the anti-life campaign and the designs of the RH bill. And they perhaps want to ruin the Philippine Catholic Church and the faithful. 10+ years ago, I believe this too..but life is more than just that, you know. And I sincerely believe that the world is far better than what we are told… and there are other things besides contraceptives and abortifacients.. that there is a pro-life stance existing within the rh-law. I believe this and that is why I am pro-rh.

      • muy_burritto

        As long as Planned Parenthood is funding the lobby of your “Pro-lif e n RH” dream, then you are in for a very nasty surprise Ismail.

      • Ismail Tolosa

        Yeah, I hate margaret sanger. I havent heard/ read that Planned Parenthood is funding the RH law though. Hontiveros being an advocate of RH law and a woman makes it all fishy.. anyways, perhaps I am too trusting the government. muy_burritto you seem to be a sensible person and I believe you’ve read the RH law, why do you think it is ANTI life when it stated that RH law allows access to “medically-safe, non-abortifacient, effective, legal, affordable, and quality reproductive health care services, methods, devices, supplies which do not prevent the implantation of a fertilized ovum as determined by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA)”? If there is a problem with the execution of the said law e.g. the pill being distributed is actually an abortifacient, someone will definitely be held accountable. I trust FDA would do their job in the study and research and in making sure their clientele gets just those services that are “medically-safe, non-abortifacient, effective, legal, etc.” Do you have a website/link to share me that could supplement, provide information to refute my belief that the RH law is good to go.

      • muy_burritto

        If there is one page I can refer to, I would look at the evidence gathered on pinoytemplars’ blog site, particularly the post on the road to legalized abortion? I was once pro-RH, and I remember that post steeled my nerves and made me angry enough to voice out my opposition.

        First, there is no “medically safe” non-abortifacient form of an oral contraceptive pill. Not one that is safe for the ovum anyway. OCPs, just by increasing the dose, are used in other countries as emergency contraceptives. Search google for princeton edu and emergency contraceptives. There is a country query there for the philippines and you will see instructions on how to use our local OCPs as emergency contraception.

        Remember when the senate was at a circus last quarter, debating when life “began”, even when the Constitution and science has already made it a moot point? It was so the discussion of OCPs abortifacient actions can still be labelled as safe, ergo “non-abortifacient”. By debating when life began, as if the senators make it alright to play with our laws.

        I remember a moment during the interpellation between Pia Cayetano and Tito Sotto, Cayetano referred to the action of a fertilized ovum as “surviving” the implantation of which Sotto immediately stated “survive? Survive therefore ALIVE!” and Cayetano immediately reworded her statement. It’s on youtube.

        These lobbyists have gotten away with mass scale abortion and now are making the nation complicit through the RH law.
        What am I for then? I am for Women’s health, and the RH law will not make our women healthier.

      • frudo

        malaki ang budget kasi malaki ang populasyon natin, kung di hinarang ang rh di sana ganyan kalaki ang pagkakagastusan, late na kasi tagal natakot ng gobyerno sa mga makpangyarihan at mapang alipin na relihiyon na wala nama nagagawa para sa kaunlaran ng bansa

      • Mang Teban

        para kanino ba itong RH law? Para sa iyo? Di ba sinisisi ang pagdami ng populasyon sa mga “irresponsible parents” daw na maraming anak at kadalasan mga pobre na walang ginawa kungdi mag-sex? Ikaw ba ganito?
        Kung di ikaw ang tinutukoy ng pagpapalaganap ng condoms at pills, ilan sa 93 milyong Pinoy ang kailangan ng condoms at pills?
        Lahat ba ng mahihirap ay walang pakundangan sa paglaki ng pamilya nila?
        Meron ba silang batayan na 13-bilyon piso taun-taon ay sapat na para mapigilan ang pagdami ng populasyon?
        Kung masasayang lamang ang gastos sa condoms at pills, naging makatarungan ba ang batas na ito?
        Kung bakit nagkakaganito ang pagdami ng tao, frudo, wala kahit isa sa atin ang makapagmamalaki na siya ang sanhi ng paggawa ng tao. Diyos lamang ang may kapangyarihan lumikha ng buhay.
        Kung walang relihiyon, walang aral mula sa Diyos makararating sa tao.
        Kaya wag mong isisi sa relihiyon na mapang-api.
        Ang nang-aapi ang sariling tao na matigas at pasaway na di marunong tumingin sa pinanggalingan niya. Lahat tayo ay likha ng Diyos. Ang relihiyon ay mahalaga tulad ng pagbagsak ni Marcos noong EDSA 1986…kung wala ang mayoridad ng Katoliko na nagsama-sama, hanggang sa ngayon diktaturya pa rin ang Pilipinas. Maliban na lang kung maunlad ka noong panahon ni Makoy at nakinabang ka sa panghuhuthut ng pamilyang ito.

      • frudo

        paki sagot lang matagal ko ng tong tanong eh, kasalanan ba Dios sa isang mag asawa ang gumamit ng pills or condom para sa pagplano ng pamilya,

      • frudo

        ikaw may anak ka na ba may asawa ka na ba? naranasan mo na ba mapamilya, nasan ang moralidad na sinasabi mo bakit mahirap ang mga catholic country, nasan ang mga matitinong pulitiko na produce ng relihiyon nyo, nasana na yung turo nyo na pag pipigil bakit daming anak na di mapakain mabihisan, namaalimos nagugutom nagnanakaw, nag sosolvent, pinagmamalaki nyo yung kay marcos eh catholic lang ba mga nandun, lahat nman ng relihiyon nandun nagkataon lang na mas marami kayo, saka dalawang dekada namuno si marcos bakit nyo pinabayaan nangurakot ng husto bago nyo napalayas ksi kayo nagmamalaki na kayo nagplayas diba, lugmok na pinas bago napatalsik, baka kayo ang nakinabang muna kay marcos ako sure ako na hindi,

  • Teresita Sy

    Dumb hyporites! Hindi naman sila magpapakain at magpapaaral sa mga bata!

    • Ismail Tolosa

      meron nga silang pinapaaral.. but for a price..

  • Gloria Wheelchairroyo

    The Pajero priests and El Patay are corrupt and a fraud. They keep on supporting immoral and criminal candidates in exchange for money.
    Why would they support 2 revolutionists (Honasan & Trillanes), 2 responsible for many deaths (Honasan & Enrile), a plunderer and his son (Erap and JV), election cheater (Migs Daya) and corrupt officials (GMA & Mitos)?
    CBCP even compared GMA to Jesus and protected her from mass rallies. Velarde is a well known supporter of corrupt officials namely PlundERAP and Binayrroyo.

  • panhase

    So Honasan, the serial traitor to the republic who is personally responsible for the death of a number of people who didn´t share his political views, is now considered as being pro-life by the Catholic church? What kind of values are we talking about?

  • tarikan

    “He said the crowd that marched to the plaza was initially estimated at 12,000, but the heavy downpour that came just before 1 p.m. reduced the number of the marchers by half”. Kita nyo na Bishop Navarra, kung talagang aprub si Lord sa pagbasura nyo ng RH Law eh di sana hindi pinaulan. O baka naman yong Lord ng ibang secta na pabor sa RH Law eh nakisali na rin at pinaulan. Bakit merun din silang powers ah! Come to think of it, Bishop Navarra. You don’t have the monopoly of the Lord.

  • mamer2

    Catholics are in a quandary on which is which.
    The CBCP has stated that it is not supporting any candidate.
    Now, here comes the good Bishop from Bacolod, who has
    strongly supported certain senatorial candidates and
    likewise, with the same fervor…, ‘condemned’ others running for the same positions.

    RC-Bishops and other Leaders of other Churches(non-Catholics) should
    NOT campaign for any or group of candidates/political parties.

  • w33k3nd3r

    Tax the church. Tax them with interest since they settled in the 1600’s.

    • IsipPinoy

      The Philippines is still a colony – of the Catholic Church, that is. Napatalsik ng mga Pilipino ang mga Kastila pero hanggang ngayon nasa influence pa rin tayo ng relihiyon specifically ng Catholicism. Dapat ng mabawasan kundi man maputol ang pag control ng relihiyon sa buhay ng mga Pilipino ng tayo’y tuluyang umunlad na.

  • Almighty

    The Catholic church lecturing about “Morals” and “pro-life”?

    History is disagrees. Income lang ng LOTTO ang katapat niyan at Pajero.

  • Almighty

    Thanks to our meddling Damasos, ladies and gentlemen:

    The Discovery of the Katipunan: en,wikipedia,org/wiki/Katipunan
    No wonder the CBCP and the Catholic leadership support the candidacy of traitors!!!

  • Diepor

    because we are doing what Christ would have done in obedience to His Father’s [will],” Navarra said. How do you know that stupido. I think god would be on the side of the poor in this case, not the church leaders with their mountains of gold.

  • tohellwithhypocrites

    JUNK DAMASO! JUNK DAMASO! JUNK DAMASO! BWESIT!!!!

  • Diepor

    The political opinion of people that believes that life started with Adam & Eve and that snakes can talk is not to be taken seriously.

    • brunogiordano

      TAMA!!!!

      mga maka-DAMASO na hindi talagang mapagkakatiwalaan at mapapaniwalaan.

  • Filpino

    catholic church is truly the true church built by our LORD Jesus Christ. AMen

    • frudo

      patunayan para di lumabas na nauto ka nila.

    • IsipPinoy

      Did God personally talked to you o sinabi lang sa iyo ng kung sinong Herodes.

    • innie meanie

      Oh really? Biggest lie ever. It’s the only reason they tell people why they should be followed, and it’s not even true. Rome accepted Christianity in 312 AD while still practicing other religions, and continued their polytheism and paganism through Roman Catholicism. but before all that, they killed and dispersed the early Christian groups. They dominated and for a thousand years they were the only ones left considered as Christians. Fortunately, their own leaders left them because they realized they don’t follow God’s Word, so they created the Orthodox and Protestant churches. Those are the major Christian groups that exist today. Catholics may be the first among those, but they certainly isn’t the first Christian church. There’s a reason why you’re called Roman Catholics.

    • innie meanie

      Go watch CNN presents – After Jesus: The First Christians

  • Steven Zahl

    I will vote PRO-RH all the way.

  • noypinga

    bobong bishop! matalino pa kabayo ko sa chess kesa sa’yo! Gusto mo marami pang magutom! magnakaw! magpalimos sa lansangan! mag-rugby! magpakantot para lang sa kape! tangang tanga kana! kasama nung mga kandidato mo!

  • noypinga

    sumunod ka nalang sa batas, bobong bishop!

  • nes911

    The catholic church is getting irrelevant and useless.

    • brunogiordano

      GETTING??????

      IRRELEVANT at USELESS na ang mga OBISPO ng CBCP.

      CATHOLIC CHURCH?????

      tama ka, GETTING pag dumami ang mga maka-DAMASO.

  • lavpower

    stupid catholic church!

  • kumilos_tayo

    Pwede ba natin single out hindi Catholic Church kung hindi mga Priest DAMASO.

    • frudo

      mismong vatican sana or kung pwede pope ang sumaway sa mga paring damaso na mga to, pero hindi eh tolerated sila eh malamang may basbas pa nga kaya malalakas ang loob, feeling nila panahon pa ng kastila at kailangan nila pakita lakas nila sa pakikialam at pang iimpluensya,

  • frudo

    junk nyo na nga lang kasi! kakapagod na yang issue nayan, haharangin at haharangin tlaga nila yan, kasi wala eh malas tayo eh under nila mga Pulitiko natin, at wag na kyong magtaka kung hindi na makabangon ang Pinas, hangat may mapag alipin na relihiyon, mananatiling mahirap ang Pilipinas, kawawang mga Pinoy,

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilMx7k7mso What, Me worry?

    PDI, sa “Sports” section dapat itong article na ito, Sa “palakasan” ng loob sa pagmamalinis.

    in 50 of 100 years more wala na ang kalokohan na ito. Sila Zeus or Jupiter (“Roman version”) parin ang mga pinaka-ASTIG na diyos na ginawa ng tao. Goodluck Fanatics, Please lang, huwag nyo namang babuyin ang Philippine Constitution. Kung gusto nyong sundin iyan “holy books” nyo, pwede ba sa loob nalang ng mga simbahan nyo?

  • Billy Reyes

    You Filipinos with your Catholic religion will never see the light in the end of the tunnel, Never…

  • Stun Black

    NO to Public Fund for Private Sex! Bumili kayo ng mga sex paraphernalia nyo.

    • frudo

      wag ka nalang magbayad ng buwis para di sayang pera mo.

  • frudo

    No catholic vote. yan ang totoo. papansin lang yan.

  • kilabot

    it now boils down to
    the catholic vote vs. the lgbt vote;
    if the catholic vote prevails,
    rhlaw will die on its own;
    if lgbt vote prevails,
    rhlaw will live to spread perversion
    and promote the world’s abnormal agenda.

    the rhlaw is like the boston brothers checkhens,
    seem regular guys but in reality perversely destructive.

    • Jane Tan

      Coming from a person that has done nothing to curb prostitution, sex-tourism, child-abuse, etc in the country; you have no right to judge.

    • frudo

      sino kaya ang abnormal na agenda or pamumuhay yun mga mauunlad ng bansa na may sistema oh yun sinasabing bansang relihiyoso pero tingnan ang klase ng pamumuhay nagkalat ang mga pulubi at mga batang hubo sa langsangan na kumakain ng mga pagpag,, na hindi na aalagaan ng maayos ng kanilang mga uto utong magulang sa mga kanilang relihiyon.

    • Ph3n0M47

      HUH?? So using your logic, one is either Catholic or LBGT?? Whoever is guiding you is doing you a HUGE disservice. There is a logical thinker somewhere behind the keyboard that wrote that comment – I’m sure of it. There is nothing wrong with being in tune with your spirituality, but there is also nothing Christian about anything you have said. I believe it was Ghandi who said, “I like your Christ, but I do not like your Christians.” Can you see why he said that?

  • carlbenedict

    Hahahahha, mga pari pero hindi sport.

    Talo na eh. Iba naman ang pagusapan.

    ANG PAGUSAPAN AY ANG BILLIONG DOLYAR NA COLLECTED SA MGA CATHOLICO AT PINADADALA SA ROMA.

    WALA PANG TAX SILA.

  • http://www.facebook.com/erick.labandia Erick Labandia

    TAMA D IBOBOTO ANG TEAM PINOY SA MAY 13 ELECTION ANG UNA Candedates ANG IBOBOTO NILA GO UNA GO UNA GO GOD BLESS U ALL.

    • kumilos_tayo

      NO to UNA.. Nangunguna sa Corruption.. Please lang kailangan na natin umunlad maawa kayo sa bayan natin..

  • josephsanchez

    sa huling harapan ni JC delos Reyes at Jamby MADRIGAL, ganda ng sagot ng isa. “I oppose to RH Bill, but I respect the Pro people.”

  • Filpino

    para lang si bro eli soriano at kapatid na manalo pati na rin si bro eddie villanueva, mga walang trabaho pero tingnan mo, si eli soriano nasa Brazil saan sya kumukuha ng dolyares panggastos nya duon; si kapatid na manalo wala ring work pero tingnan mo naman ang mga mansyon nya at mga dekalidad na sasakyan; si bro eddie v. wala ring work pero ilang beses kumandidato.

    so sino ngayon ang malakas mang-uto sa miembro?

    • frudo

      lahat sila na binangit mo mga nanguuto sa mga tao, at sana nman wag na sila makisali sa Pulitika kasi dahil sa pakikialam nila nalulukluk tuloy ang mga corrupt ng mga Pulitiko, hadlang sila sa kaunlaran,, magsama sama sila parepareho lang sila mga corrupt!

  • Marcial Abila

    Sapat na cguro maraming taon tayo nag papala ng pera sa vatican (donation kuno) itigin na to kabulukan nyo pera to ng mga mahihirap na cla mas marami sumimba kesa sa mayaman total kayo nakikialam sa gobyerno mabuti pa cguro gobyermo na mag pasuweldo sa inyo para makwenta kung ilan talaga pera pumapasokk sa kalahatang simbahan.

    • Filpino

      alam mo ba sinasabi mo? baka pati pastor mo batukan ka sa gusto mong mangyari dahil sila lalong tatamaan sa ganitong panukala mo.

      • Marcial Abila

        Kung ayaw mo de wag kayo makiaalam sa gobyerno bat ang gobyerno ba nkikialam sa inyo d nman dba sa kurakot at anu pa mga kagaguhan pwedeng maimagine mo nagawa na ng mga tao nyo

  • Eric

    at lest we know who attended, sila ang hindi namin iboboto, at kong sino ang kadidato nang simbahan, hindi rin namin iboboto.

  • Maroon_White

    It’s sad that a church identifying itself to be a disciple of Jesus Christ opted to be involved in politics. Christian churches should be preaching the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ – that Christ came to this world to redeem sinners. Like the other churches who do “block voting”, the catholic church has truly degenerated to a political party instead of being the Ambassador of the Lord Jesus Christ. Truly sad, that they only want the “power and recognition” of the world.

  • Eugene De Ocampo

    mga anti sa RH prolife daw sila pero pag dating ng mga kalamidad halos mamatay na sa gutom ang mga kababayan ni wala kang mababalitang tulong na naibigay nila. minsan ang dami nating nakikita sa lansangan na mga bata na palaboy nag ingay ba sila sa gobyerno para pagmalasakitan ang mga taong ito na nagugutom at walang matirahan yan ba ang prolife? pero sa RH bill hanggang sa supreme court ipinaglalaban nila yan ba ang pro life?

  • bgcorg

    The initiative to champion “life” and reject “death” comes from the laypeople of God. The Catholic Church in the local Church of Bacolod, supports this move from the people of God. In fact, the Catholic Church in the Philippines, especially on marriage, family and life, are in unity for the repeal of the RH Law, being contrary to morals, customs, law (the Constitution), human rights, culture, mores, religion and practices. Being against public policy, it should be junked! In voting for candidates during the May mid-term elections, Team Buhay should get the support of all Catholics in the country. Unity, as in no other page of our history, would galvanize the Catholic vote. Vincible ignorance is not exactly a vote of conscience. God could only be one. I believe in the one, holy, catholic or universal, apostolic Church!

    • PennEngineer

      Please do not use the name of God in vain: How do we know they are the laypeople of God?

      This is the same statement that the imams, mullahs and ayatollahs of Iran were saying. Do you want our country to be like Iran?

  • x44

    The Church should be responsible enough in doing endorsement as the issue is not limited to the RH alone. Being leaders of big groupings, their choices can indeed influence their member’s preferences. For the predatory politicians, all they have to do, is to play into the desires of these leaders and their organization and to cater into its vulnerabilities only and they will have a free ticket to the position. This practice undermines people’s right of suffrage and his basic right to freedom. And taking into account the kind of electorate we have, their grasp and understanding of the issues at hand, this is very dangerous!

    Leaders of churches and other organizations should stop endorsing candidates immediately.

  • pikloy

    Religion is like political parties, with so many of organization of faith now, you don’t know whom to believe in. Now they are using their numbers for religious gain and for political purposes.

  • batmanlaijai

    UMIYAK PA ANG LANGIT sa rally nyo… hahahaha

  • dodong1

    nakialam nanaman ang mga damasos na to…marami pa ngang silang problema sa kanilang sariling bakuran na dapat ayusin nakikialam pa sa politika…kaya walang pagbabago ang ating bansa dahil marami talaga ang nagpapa uto sa mga damasos na to…

  • Rodolfo Corneja

    mga kabayan ,correct me if i am wrong , even the bill is passed to both lower and upper house and signed by the esecutve,and become a law ,,but if in belief and practice is shuned by the majority of the populace it can be repelled as useless and ineffective law ,

    • Jane Tan

      proof or gtfo?

  • GMMTC11

    The obligation of the church is to strengthen the moral and ethical values in conjunction with religious belief. When they could not fulfill that obligation they are forcing their way in terms of political collusion which in my opinion is one of the highest corruption of the catholic hierarchy. The church itself deviated from its fundamental function which is to promote divinity. Are we just being taken by cons?

  • Twister12

    Two words for these people. Fanatics & hypocrites. Are we really stupid to believe that all these people including the politicians have not used any contraceptives at all?

  • Nisky Ocsave

    THE CAUSE OF CORRUPTION IN CATHOLIC COUNTRIES
    It is a fact that religion has played an important role in the formation of a country. This is absolutely true in Catholic countries; undeniably, the common denominator of all corrupt and impoverished countries is religion [in general] and Catholicism [in particular]. Is there really a relationship between corruption and the Catholic Church? The answer is YES, actual situation speaks for itself.
    Before the decree on separation of church and state, the colonies dominated by Spain [which was the Pope’s sattelite] were controlled by the Catholic Church. During these historical time, the colonies were managed in accordance with the Catholic systems.
    Now, what are these Catholic systems which are still prevailing until this modern time?
    1. Briberies and all forms of corruptions that could be traced back to the giving of something to the church in the guise of donation for purposes of facilitating the givers’ request to the saints.
    2. The giving of donations in exchange for a divine intervention or any favor; this is a form of bribery clothe with another terminology. This is a clear pattern of corruption.
    3. The pardons for sale and indulgences which still occur in another form until these days.
    4. The hypocrisy and shrewdness which could be traced back to the time of bishops and priests covering their evil acts behind the curtains of secrecy.
    The holy appearance with a divine posture is their only hiding wall from the real self – this hypocrisy is still an effective tool of corruption to evade from public suspicion. This instance is still prevailing until now may it be in religion or politics, the main point is that it was inherited from the Catholic system,
    Case in point Mexico, Spain, Colombia, yours truly Philippines and a lot more.

  • UrHONOR

    LIKE a dog that goes back to its vomit is a folly that is repeated.

    Ilang ulit pa bang SUSUKATIN ng TNL na mga naka-helmet na ito ang PAGTITIMPI ng sambayanan? Mistulang mga batang musmos na hindi maka-unawa ng mga pahiwatig ng lipunan mula kay Erap d’ krrrp to Pandaque to Corona to Rh bill to election codes, e, ilang ulit ng nalampaso, e, birit-pa-din-ng-birit dahil sa laksa-laksang kayamanan nito na kayang-kayang magtapon ng kwarta, kaliwa’t kanan, alang-alang sa ikaka-tagumpay ng kanilang minimithing kapangyarihan na nangingibabaw sa mga sheeple simula pa ng panahon ng TNL na Magellan.

    Biglang na-ala-ala ko tuloy yong nangyari kay Oscar Romero na dating Bishop ng El Salvador…….

  • ddano

    May sariling pag iisip ang mga tao ng galing sa Maylalang.

  • talbosngkamote

    this whole team buhay and team patay has gone crazy. I’m ashamed the church did this, and it makes me think that their timing during the elections makes it obvious that there’s more to it than their beliefs…

  • kapitkapatiran

    sana hindi nalang umepal ung mga taga simbahan. hindi talaga dapat kasama sa politico kaya sobrang mali ung team buhay at team patay na yan. grabe talaga….

  • frudo

    Catholic religion at INC at iba pa hadlang sa kaunlaran ng bansa!

  • batmanlaijai

    malaki din siguro nagastos sa rallly… sayang yong pera… binigay na lang sana sa mahihirap… saan kaya kinuha ng mga damaso ginastos sa rally?… kanya-kanya daw ang siguradong sagot ni damaso!!!… haaaayyyy buhay!!!

  • $31594090

    The Catholic religious group (priests, bishops and cardinals) is against the RH law simply because it threatens their existence and way of life; a selfish act that does not benefit the general public. Their initiatives are encroaching into the democratic principle of separation of religion and government, and alienating other religions that do not share their beliefs and viewpoints. It is time for other religions to voice their opinion that the RH law addresses the problems confronting countries dominated by Catholics, such as Mexico and other latin Americans, which are besieged with population problems where cities are crawling with people in need of jobs to sustain their life with basic necessities in order to be productive in their own countries. History has shown that to be a viable religion in the eyes of the communities in their country, Catholics have been initiating their activities in helping the poor. Without the poor in this day in age, Catholic governing bodies will simply lose their grip as an enfluential force in their country. This is the main reason for concentrating their energies and resources to dismantle the RH law. It is ironic that the bulk of their resources (money) comes from the poor. The poor that they are trying to perpetuate in the modern society that has now the intelligence to solve the ills of the society. I myself was reared in a strict Catholic family; but I have seen the teaching of the Catholic governing bodies is devoted to their perpetual and selfish existence. They have discarded their responsibility to promote the welfare of the people through peace and harmony with God in mind. Instead, they resorted to political upheaval just to save their way of life.

    • Ph3n0M47

      Very well said! Forward thinking Filipinos like you is what this country needs to advance to the next level, which is frankly where it should have been many many years ago. The politicians and religious leaders of this nation think the citizens of The Philippines are uneducated fools and prove it every single day with their actions. Revolution is NOT the answer..its education. FInd me a candidate that mentions that ONCE on his/her platform and I will show you a forward thinking Filipino.

  • Hulabaloo

    should we vote for them because this corrupt bishops says so? if you do then “God be with us”

  • Ismail Tolosa

    The State likewise guarantees universal access to medically-safe, non-abortifacient, effective, legal, affordable, and quality reproductive health care services, methods, devices, supplies which do not prevent the implantation of a fertilized ovum as determined by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and relevant information and education thereon according to the priority needs of women, children and other underprivileged sectors, giving preferential access to those identified through the National Household Targeting System for Poverty Reduction (NHTS-PR) and other government measures of identifying marginalization, who shall be voluntary beneficiaries of reproductive health care, services and supplies for free.
    -republic act no 10354

    I DONT SEE ANYTHING ANTI-LIFE FROM THIS STATEMENT..THIS IS THE RL DECLARATION POLICY. I honestly dont understand why Bishop Navarra is making a huge fuss about it.

    • Diepor

      Is anything that comes from the church founded in logic? They belive that life started with Adam & Eve and snakes talk. How can you dicuss with people that belives things like that.

    • Ph3n0M47

      Educate the masses so they can think logically on their own…and this article never makes it to print. I understand the need and importance of religion in society – its a spiritual crutch that provides hope by spreading fear. It is also blatantly obvious why the leaders of said religion need to be followed blindly in order for that equation to be successful. I have watched two debates and not one question was posed to the candidates about what their plan is to improve the educational system here in the Philippines. I wonder why…

  • Eric

    to our be loved priest whom ever you support we will reject, and whom ever you reject we will vote. ok?

  • magarito

    dapat yang mga pari, dalhin sa isang isla at doon nila ipraktis ang mga pinaggagagawa nilang kashungahan.

  • Andre Lopez

    Team “Buhay” and Team “Patay”? I think it’s pathetic that the Catholic Church is once again trying to flex its muscles by branding senators as either pro-RH or anti-RH. I believe each senator is entitled to his or her own opinion. The church should respect the fact that not everyone will share the same opinion as theirs, and I believe it is the duty of each and every Filipino to believe in what they want to believe and disregard the opinion of a church that is currently trying to use its status as a superpower in our country to dictate the way we should think and act.

    Pro-RH or anti-RH, iboboto ko kung sino man ang gusto ko iboto. Among these senators are Escudero, Angara, and Enrile. The church can say all they want and judge them for their beliefs, but they get my vote because they know how to stand up for their own beliefs.

  • Magsasaka

    umaariba na naman ang mga TEAM TATAY=tatay na pari hehehe

    • ranjoranido

      correct. kung makapag malinis itong mga pari na ito.

  • sigbinko

    Team TATAY?mitsubishops? PWE!

  • ConstructiveMediaCritics

    WE ARE FOR PRO GOD AND PRO LIFE CANDIDATES….

    GOD AND JESUS AND MOTHER MARY LIGHTS AND MIRACLE LIGHTS AND BLESS YOU ALL….

    • kumilos_tayo

      kahit yung pro life candidate mo eh sobrang corrupt..

  • frudo

    PRO QUALITY LIFE TAYO WAG TAYO MAKINIG SA MGA PRO BAHALA NA SI BATMAN LIFE KUNO! TULUNGAN ANG BAYAN MAKABANGON WAG MAGING PABIGAT, WAG MAGING UTO UTO SA RELIHIYON NA NAG EENDORSO NG MGA CORRUPT NA PULITIKO.

  • marlo concepcion

    nag-dance number nga ang viva hot babes dun sa rally

  • IronFistAtheos

    RH Bill is now RH Law. God made it possible. “It’s all part of God’s plan.” (favorite quote ng mga fanatics) Who are these Bishop Clowns to question his wisdom? >:)

  • ting0508

    Only people with malicious intent will believe this Team Tatay advocacy! BOOOOOOO to Team Tatay! Kayo ang Tunay na Team Patay!

  • ting0508

    Team Bacolod equals Team Tatay equals Team Patay! Kayo ang tunay na makasalanan sa Diyos! Pweee Team TATAY!

  • http://twitter.com/Olibo2 Olibo

    May I request the PDI or the media not to post or publish this kind of protest, baka isipin ng Global community na marami pang mga Filipino ay BOBO at ignorante sa Family Planning. They don’t represent the entire Catholic population in the Phils.Puro kahihiyan ang ginagawa ng maraming Pari sa atin.Nakakasuka.

  • ranjoranido

    since nakikisawsaw na ang simbahan sa mga issue na pang estado dapat siguro isama na sila sa tax. lalo na yung mga koleksyon nila sa mga misa at mga bayad tuwing may okasyon like kasal.

  • http://www.facebook.com/iyen.dev Iyen Dev

    We only experience our personal freedom through Sex!We are all born from original sin and it’s continuing sin.We are all product of Sex and so with the Priests.

    • pgsalt

      Sex is not sin. Sex outside of marriage and perverted sex is sin.

  • jonathan ortega

    mukhang nagsama sama na ang INC at mga Born against dito hahahahah….

  • Yul Dorotheo

    Mitos is a strong proponent of the tobacco industry, which is inherently anti-life and anti-poor. NO to Mitos!

  • ayupayupan77

    Team Hipo vs Team Subo…………………………..yung ibang mga pari dyan kendeng kendeng ……kendeng kendeng……………

  • sopingac

    The RH law is not about enforcement or restriction. It is not punitive. It is about giving people especially the poorest of the poor, a choice.

    It is just a waste of time arguing with anyone who can’t accept this very simple fact. One side wants a choice can be made by every Filipino couple while the other wants to impose their will on everyone.

  • innie meanie

    EVERY CATHOLIC SHOULD READ THIS

    Matthew 7:13-14
    “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

    Exodus 20:4-6
    Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or ANY LIKENESS OF ANY THING THAT IS IN HEAVEN ABOVE, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

    Romans 1:22-25
    Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible GOD INTO AN IMAGE MADE LIKE TO CORRUPTIBLE MAN, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    Matthew 6:7
    But when ye pray, use not VAIN REPETITIONS, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

    Matthew 12:46-50
    While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.” But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “WHO IS MY MOTHER and who are My brothers?” And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! FOR WHOEVER DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER IN HEAVEN IS MY BROTHER AND SISTER AND MOTHER.”

    Luke 11:27-28
    And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. But he said, Yea RATHER, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

    Luke 1:47
    And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
    [Mary talks of in need of a Saviour, therefore she is a sinner.]

    Ephesians 2:8-9
    For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, NOT OF WORKS, lest anyone should boast.

    1 Timothy 4:1-5
    Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; FORBIDDING TO MARRY, AND COMMANDING TO ABSTAIN FROM MEATS, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

    Galatians 3:15-16
    Brethren, I speak in the manner of men: Though it is only a man’s covenant, yet if it is confirmed, NO ONE ANNULS OR ADDS TO IT. Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ.

    Mark 7:5-6, 8-13
    Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him, “Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands?” He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me. FOR LAYING ASIDE THE COMMANDMENT OF GOD, YOU HOLD THE TRADITION OF MEN—the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do.” He said to them, “ ALL TOO WELL YOU REJECT THE COMMANDMENT OF GOD, THAT YOU MAY KEEP YOUR TRADITION. For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’ ; and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ But you say, ‘If a man says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is Corban”—’ (that is, a gift to God ), then you no longer let him do anything for his father or his mother, making the word of God of no effect through your tradition which you have handed down. And many such things you do.”

  • innie meanie

    Hala sige kayo mga Katoliko at anti RH bill kung makikipagsex kayo (which is almost all of you) wag na wag talaga kayong mag condom or mag birth control pills habang buhay ha para magkaanak kayo kahit hindi nyo kayang bumuhay ng tao! Kayong mga kabataan at nagaaral pa magpakadrop out kayo para buhayin ang inyong anak. Magpakasakit kayo ng sexually transmitted diseases para madali kayong mamatay at mapass on ang STD sa mga anak nyo at silay mamatay din ng maaga! Hala cge damihan nyo mga taong may sakit! Magpakahirap kayo sa buhay nyo! Yan gusto nyo eh.. In the mean time, ang mga sinusunod nyong pari walang paki sa mangyayari sa inyo kasi they get their followers through birth with Catholic beliefs passed on to generation to generation. The more babies, the more Catholics, the more money the rich and corrupt Catholic church will have! They don’t care about the economy, overpopulation and more poverty. All they care about is more money and power! Tingnan nyo kung anong mga countries na ngayon ang maraming Katoliko..mga countries na overpopulated and poverty stricken. Kasi ang mga tao hindi edukado so they’re an easy target. As a Christian, I believe sex should only be for marriage at sa kaya na magbuhay ng bata..pero we have to face reality na most people don’t follow that rule. Makikipagsex talaga ang mga tao! and contraceptives and sex education promote responsibility and good health sa mga taong iyan! Oo makasasala sila but only God shall punish them..as if talaga walang kasalanan ang Katoliko! Why let people suffer if there is a solution especially that the solution is for the betterment of the whole country?!

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