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The visual arts director of the Cultural Center of the Philippines (CCP) who had approved the controversial exhibit that sparked outrage among politicians and religious activists has resigned, even as artists’ groups decried the CCP for submitting to demands to close down the exhibit.

Karen Flores announced her decision at a forum at the University of the Philippines on Wednesday on the political debate generated by “Kulo,” the exhibit which was closed down on Tuesday following threats to CCP officials and acts of vandalism.

The show included an installation by artist Mideo Cruz which featured the controversial image of Jesus Christ with a wooden penis on his face, that became the target of politicians and religious clerics and activists who found it obscene and offensive.

Flores, whose announcement was greeted by applause from students and faculty members, stressed that her withdrawal from the CCP was not meant to evade investigation.

“I can still be sued. Go ahead,” she said.

Various Catholic and Christian groups have threatened to file charges against the artists and CCP officials for alleged violations of the Revised Penal Code provisions against obscene exhibitions and indecent shows.

Legislators said they would call for an inquiry because the offending exhibit was installed in state-owned venue.

Manila Rep. Amado Bagatsing has been soliciting signatures from House members for a resolution calling on the CCP officials to resign. Several senators have expressed support for his views.

The leader of the opposition in the House of Representatives on Wednesday cautioned his colleagues against “overreacting” to a controversial art work even if it may have been “really over” (excessive).

Majority Leader Edcel Lagman said there was no need to call for the resignation of CCP officials.

Artists’ Arrest, a loose network of artists and artists’ groups, on Wednesday called on the CCP board to rethink its position on closing down the exhibit, saying it already constituted censorship.

“The action of the CCP is discouraging and even disturbing as it displays submission to unfair demands it initially ruled out,” said the group that includes singers Cynthia Alexander and Bobby Balingit.

Right to express

“You don’t destroy somebody else’s work if it sickens you as you are free to make your own art that can challenge that or write a scathing review or critique, whichever suits you best,” the group said in a statement.

The group called on artists to “defend our right to express ourselves.”

J. Pacena II, who curated the show, said the CCP board’s action “sets a bad precedent.”

“I am shocked and appalled by how our civil liberties were exploited to satiate the sensibilities of a raucous mob. In effect, majority of the participants’ ideas and artistic expressions were neglected and compromised by this decision,” he said in a statement.

At the UP forum, the CCP chair Emily Abrera, said the board was “practically bullied” into closing down the exhibit. The threats and safety concerns for the artists and employees were their reasons for shutting down the show, she explained.

Abrera said she supported Flores and would not resign as chair, a position she has served for six years. “They have to take me out,” she said. With Niña Calleja and Cynthia D. Balana


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Tags: Artists’ Arrest , CCP chair Emily Abrera , CCP visual arts department head Karen Flores , Cultural Center of the Philippines (CCP) , curator J. Pacena II , Manila Rep. Amado Bagatsing , “Kulo , ” artist Mideo Cruz


  • http://twitter.com/yogon Camillo

    To the Inquirer: please edit this piece. Edcel Lagman is the MINORITY Leader.

    As for Ms. Flroes, isn’t she the one who dismissed that the furor of some groups over Polyteismo as mere moralist hysteria?  As member of the CCP, she shouldn’t be hasty to judge other points of view and instead be open.

  • abmatibay

    I forgive you

  • abmatibay

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    Wala pong bisa ang gamot sa hospital.

    • Anonymous

      What’s tawa-tawa? Btw, hope your daughter is fine now.

    • Anonymous

      is this true,can i share this on my facebook because in our place mag mga nadengue at they keep on asking blood donors.thank for the info..

  • Anonymous

    this is getting absurd. try walking in a street in saudi arabia wearing a necklace with a crucifix pendant on it.if you’re lucky enough any saudi can reprimand you but if your spotted by their religious police, you can even be sent to jail or be slapped in public with your “crucifix” thrown away. i’ve seen one first hand…
    mga katoliko, hanggang ngayon ba, nauuto pa rin tayo ng mga nasa simbahan???

    • Anonymous

      Bro., Your out of line, cause your using a muslim country as an example, true enough they will not respect anything other than their religion.  Try to analyze, why are they throwing away crucifix? cause they are so much into with their religion that they condemns anything beyond it. Its not the relics or any other figures for that matter we are talking here, its respect. Will you be happy if somebody gets you family pictures and put anything they like and show it to the public?
      Remember this:  If you live believing God and die and found their is no God, you lose nothing.  But if you live your life as if there is no God and die and found God exists, you lose everything. In God you have nothing to lose but have everything to gain.
      I rest my case.

    • Anonymous

      @ tonyoks, ikaw mag pa uto ka sa taga saudi.

  • Anonymous

    Karen, Karen, no need for grandstanding, no need to make a fuss about standing on principle. Just do what you think needs to be done and let the public draw their own conclusion. Besides, no worries about finding something else to do while getting legal assistance if the threats to sue those concerned are made good.

    For now, you are a small speck in the really, really big issue: should there be limits to the freedom of expression? Well, more specifically, should there be limits to artistic expression? This, of course, could be one of those open-ended issues where a consensus can only be reached on a case-to-case basis given applicable circumstances. Truth be told, I’m kind of stumped too on the issue at hand. Perhaps the PDI readers can put in some inputs for our enlightenment.

  • Anonymous

    Virtually the CCP board doesn’t know what is the difference between decency and art.

    so it will be okay if I will wear a specially made mask with an erect phallus in the forehead and enter the CCP gallery. I call that a personal artistic display akin to wearing personal choice of clothes

  • Anonymous

    Now, we have this group telling us what art exhibit to see, Then we will have this
    same group telling us what we should read, what to say and what to
    think. Then they will tell us what to believe and what religious view we
    should be holding.The next thing we know we are thrown back to the time
    of the crusades; we will be having people put on the stack and burn
    alive for their religious views. The Brooklyn Museum case stopped this
    sad part of history from repeating itself. We should heed the words of
    Justice William J. Brennan:”The gov’t may not prohibit the expression of
    an idea simply because society finds the idea itself offensive or
    disagreeable.” The gov’t must remain neutral with regard to religious
    expression, whether it manifests a religious view, an anti-religious
    view or neither. It’s shocking that at this age and time of technology
    we still have senators and people whose thinking are medieval and
    dangerous.

    • Anonymous

      Just asking, ganyan ba ang religious view mo na ok lang mag display ng titi for the sake of art? 
      Yan ba ang preaching sa church niyo? May pamilya ka rin ba at mga anak? Ano naman ang ma explain mo sa mga anak mo kung meron?
      Please don’t be offended, I just want to know what’s inside your heart.

    • shane oy

      unfounded fears.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z4D53FR66AZ5TQGMXNIXAYAOEU blue

    art vs religion? i choose art. the higher form, anytime. the bible is art. a collection of fiction and mostly non-fiction. and highly dependent on anybody’s interpretation.

  • Anonymous

    tama lang yan. mali yun ginawa ng ccp. If it were displayed at the artist’s own gallery or home then he has every right to do it since only those who will personally troop to his place will see his “art” but not on public display wherein everyone’s sensibilities can be disgusted.
    freedom of Expression is not absolute. Anyone who thinks so please inform me where you live or your kids studies and i will go their and display my art to you personally. It is ridiculous our idea of expressing ourselves freely can we say condolence at a birthday celebration or congratulations at a funeral? di ba freedom ko yun? Do we go to someone’s dinner party and defecate in their presence? “Hey! it’s an art you know…look at those abstract shapes and that beautiful brown color….it’s an art you can even smell…” Respect for traditions, cultures and more importantly other people’s sensibilities is more important than freedom of expression. for what good is freedom kung magkakagulo gulo tayong lahat at magpapatayan? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SBG72AYCZX2P6SE23262I2GNBQ fightforphilippines

    we have the right to do what we want to do subject to limitations. if we want to kill and eat our prey, we can if and only if we can be wild animals in the jungles by the power of our will. we have the right to think and to express what we wish but those must yield again to limitations. those exhibits are indeed an exercise of the freedom to express but it borders on the right of a beast in the jungle where there is no protection for the weak for they become prey. that does not apply to human society because we are governed by laws of people and for the people. we can not kill, we can not eat our prey, we can not offend feelings and we can not desecrate the living or the dead. in other words, we can not put a penis in front of Cory face or a vagina in Ninoys portrait  and display it in public, we can do that when we are a lunatic inside  the four corners of our room away from the public where limitations are there to protect. it is a choice of being wild senseless or spiritless animals or human beings. at the rate it is going, those not offended by these insanity may associate with the beasts in the jungles. God’s wisdom and Mercy and for non-believers chance really worked wonders for not having these indifferent and artful people existing as wild beasts roaming the jungles killing and getting killed themselves. dont you think they deserve such fate??????

  • http://www-blogjosemig200905com.blogspot.com/ Jose Miguel Garcia

    To the artists who are crying foul: 

    Which will you allow: one of your children to hang on the sala of your family house, a drawing of what is apparently a representative of your brother but with a phallus on the face, or; one of your children to hang on the sala of your family house, a drawing of what is apparently a representative of your other child but with a phallus on the face?

  • http://twitter.com/MarLouWang Marlou Wang

    Art daw ‘yon!!! Pwe!!! Kung puwede ko lang pagduduraan ang mga mukha ng mga artist-kuno na ito, matagal ko nang ginawa! Bakit di niyo tularan ang art na pininta ni Juna Luna? Paki-explain ‘yang ari na ipinatong sa mukha ng symbolo ng Kristiano, ano’ng masasabi niyo. Puro utak-ipis kasi kayo, wala kayong malikha na hahangaan ng buong mundo. At saka, ari na nakadisplay? kultura ba ng Pilipino ‘yan! Dapat ikulong kayo para hindi na kayo mag-artist-kuno.

  • Anonymous

    sa mga artists na gustong magkaroon ng chance to express ang “freedom of expression”, doon sila sa plaza miranda …. and while at it, samahan nila ng carricature/drawing ni muhammad na meron din mickey mouse. ….

    sabi nga ng matatandang pulitikos …. ma i-defend ba ‘yan sa plaza miranda? 

    common “artists”  .. show your talents para hindi lang burgis ang makakita ng creations n’yo  …

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Reynold-Pelejo/100000404005294 Reynold Pelejo

    Resigning is most honorable way to do for insulting a deep rooted religion in this country. It is your fault for miscalculating the sensitivity and potential extent of reaction of these dominant believers.

  • Anonymous

    while we respect the freedom of expression ..but we condemn the way you guys express your freedom …Chair Abrera is a thick faced woman..you no longer deserve the position..resign now…your sons and daugthers, brothers and sisters and your entire clan  must convince you to leave CCP now  before the catholic community “bullied” you out of the CCP..  

    You can work with Mideo Cruz who by the way don”t deserve “Cruz” to be his family name…change it to ” BURAT..Mideo Burat…call me narrow minded person but my freinds, family and myself cannnot to the highest level, consider your work as an Art… .Mideo Burat

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MDOX2EROQGXBPGBLOHM5YRFEPY Genki

    All this fuss because of a penis.  Filipinos are scared of penises.

    • Anonymous

      you don’t get it do you? it’s not about the penis…. it’s about respect. it’s about exercising freedom with a sense of respect to others’ freedom as well. the kind of respect our parents, grandparent, great grandparents has been teaching us for generarations, which these so called “artist” seem to have ignored for the sake of their frreedom of expression. but by the way you reacted it seems you are not a filipino that’s why you wouldn’t understand.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W5FM7HAPAJRT5XEL62KHNDBA3E Edward

      you half-wit! it’s either you’re an aetheist or a complete moron. either way you missed the point miserably why such an uproar ensued, which is not surprising coming from an imbecile like you. but i must say you did a good job learning how to use a pc and be able to share your worthless opinion. still, you’re a dumbass!

  • Anonymous

    I don’t really care if the piece were shown in a private gallery but i think CCP being funded by the government has to try to be more sensitive to people views. Would editing the exhibit really destroy the whole thing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Reynaldo-Quijada/100000740291153 Reynaldo Quijada

    Based on all the informal polls and the actual reactions of Filipinos, the CCP obviously erred. If they have to be sanctioned based on existing laws, so be it so that their successors will learn their lessons. I find appropriate the comments of Senators Jinggoy, Sotto and Enrile. Thanks also for the speech and comments of Congressman Bagatsing and Congresswoman Imelda Marcos. Pnoy please consider replacing the entire top management of CCP for not putting their feet down when they should especially attacks against Jesus whom Christians worship as God hiding behind false art.

  • Anonymous

    kung ayaw nyong gawin yon sa litrato ng anak ninyo, o pamilya ninyo, wag nyong gagawin sa iba…. simple lang naman yon….  paggalanag sa kapwa…. lalo na doon sa nagpakamatay sa atin sa krus….

    • http://twitter.com/Jochameleon John Chameleon

      There are pictures of Cruz that any self-ascribing “artist” can use for their “penis art” and exhibit at the CCP. Is that sane?

  • Jojo Villanueva

    bakla kasi yung artist nun kaya puro ganun nasa utak nya.

    kung ako nakakita nung art na yun baka sinunog ko pa yun right on the spot.

    • Chua Bee

      Agree. promiscious artists (kuno)….what the heck. we can be all be called artists if we want to, but I chose not to, as they are non-sense stupid, twisted and fags—only in the Philippines

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BDKDA4PBJULTTOZCJFQLWQQJYM Pinoy Ako

      isama mo na ring sunugin si mildeo at si karen flores….mga h-ayop ang isip, puro mahilig sa u-ten.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E7SFPQFWHHEAJ4IZKPD7OYJXVM Jabba

    Art ba yung kabastusan nina Mideong demonyo? Bakit hindi niya ginawa sa imahen ng mga muslim, for example, yung mosque lagyan nya ng krus sa itaas. Alam niya kasing hindi violente ang mga kristiyano kaya yun ang kaya nyang gawin. At ikaw Karen Flores, humihirit ka pang demonyita ka. Mahina kasi ang IQ mo kaya pinayagan mo ang kahayupan ni Mideo, et al. Kung sa mga Catholic schools mo pinapapasok ang mga anak mo (kung may nagkamali na anakan ka) sana ma expel o ma bully ng mga kaklase para maintindihan mo ang kalapastanganang ginawa mo. Lastly, who needs art?? Makakain ba yan ng mga pulubi at kargador sa palengke? Mideo buti pa ibenta mo kay Morato ang mga kahayupan mo. Maa-appreciate ni bading yung mga condoms mo!

    • Anonymous

      well first of all, name calling is the last refuge of the out-argued or the unintelligent so the demonyita thing only lowers you, and you seem to be an intelligent and rational person naman.
      and yung sinasabi mong hindi tayo kagaya ng muslim na violente, well i suppose you should be proud of that di ba? why use that as an argument? para mo na din sinabing pasalamat ka hindi kami mga hayop na mamamatay tao. i mean is that the kind of comparison you want for yourself?
      di ba gustong gusto ipagmayabang ng kristiyano na tolerant and forgiving sila?
      is this not what you want to porttray yourself as? not that the artist should be thankful that christians are too cowardly to kill and die to defend against blasphemies against them?
      turn the other cheek ang sabi ni Kristo di ba?

    • http://twitter.com/Jochameleon John Chameleon

      karen flores can ask now for the centerpiece so she can optimize her self-expression inside her closet.

    • Anonymous

      yan ang banat jabba ,pero sigurado hindi ka juice ha he he he yung abrera pomporma pa na they have to take me out, sige mga kabayan i take out na boung pamilya ng hayup na yan, alang araw na kita inaayang torohin ,ayaw mo naman komontak sa akin for the sake of arts naman eh. ginigipit mo naman yung right s ko to express eh, tapos lagay natin sa you tube ……

      sa mga nakabasa na po sa mga naunang pinost ko pasensya na po kayo at di pa rin ako matunawan sa mga ginawa nitong mga hayup na ito.  kung yung mga malalaking billboard nga naka bikining mga lalaki ay pinaglaban ng taong bayan na malaswa tingnan, eto pa na paniniwala ito ng tao na binaboy ninyo . ARTS putang ina nyo abrera at iba pa. ikaw din lagman tama na ang panloloko malamang last term mo na ito bistado ka na ng maga taga albay, raot ang payo mo

  • Anonymous

    I quote:  The group called on artists to “defend our right to express ourselves.”

    Let me express myself too… “artists, get a real job. You don’t become an artist just because you own a paintbrush”

    • Anonymous

      sabi nga ni mr. keating (robin williams) sa dead poets society, food, drink money, that’s what we need to survive, but poetry, arts, romance, that’s what makes life worth living.

      • Anonymous

        YOU ALSO NEED AIR!

    • http://twitter.com/Jochameleon John Chameleon

      displaying penis and other malicious materials is never an art. where can you find this hideous concoction in any part of the world then considered them art? nincompoop charlatans self-ascribing as “artists” and insensible to morality.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CZP7LGATAU6NV5ZKS7NRHRZCEE Josh

    There is no such thing as a right not to be offended. If the exhibit offends you, you are more than free to offend the offending party yourself. That’s how a democracy is supposed to work.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W655725MF2JLO4B3R57GXXJBOI Vestre Vistal

    Sa lahat na nakondena kay mideo, medyo segurado ba kayong ganon talaga ang hitsura ni Cristo, maraming tao na ganon ang facial features, kaya mabuti tanongin ninyo siya at magresearch na rin kayo ng paintings ni michaelangelo.

    • Anonymous

      IGNORANT! if your belief tells you not to believe in that particular image then stop there! don’t try to change other’s faith! for i can assure you your faith is twisted like your brain, just the way you state your opinions!

    • Jojo Villanueva

      kahit na di nya kamukha yun. it is the thought. the symbol it represents. are you ignorant?

      and that is not called art. it’s called laziness. lack of creativity. 

  • Anonymous

    This whole fiasco clearly showed that contrary to what the pro-RH people want us to believe, majority of the Filipinos continue to be God-fearing people who know have to have love for the Faith, respect for the Catholic Church, and uprightness of life.

    Mideo and his cohorts thought they could get away with this stupidity. 

    They were wrong.

    And this is also the very same reason why the arrogant anti-Catholic people posting comments here have to resort to faulty argumentum ad hominem, skewed reasoning and defective logic.

    Long live morality!

  • Anonymous

    sa rh lang pala tayo free from the shackles of the dark ages

  • Anonymous

    Mideon Cruz = devil’s advocate!

    Wala kasing gusting pumatol sa kanya kaya nya gnawa un para meron syang pagnasahan. Sana sa sarili nyang ilong gnawa un tapos humarap sya sa salamin… Mideon, isa kang malaswa at nakakadiring bading. Malamang hiyang hiya ang mga magulang mo at nagsisisi kung bat kanila pinanganak!

  • Chua Bee

    LOL. Artists of this country in this case, are abysmal devoid of morals. Unbelievable. These so called artists consider desecrating Christ an art in itself? Ano—you can’t fool a civil society like ours. Set your freedom of expressions within the bounds of respect and decency. If you are so obsessed of this freedom, think how about the freedom to anarchy and rape and violence and crime?  Killings and violence are an expression and therefore, be tolerated?????? Stupid nga itong artists na ito. I am ashamed of being called a filipino—your twisted trouble making logic has not place in this civilised world.

    • Anonymous

      You should REALLY be ashame for being a FILIPINO CHUPA BEE!!!…Di mo na ba natatandaan ang mga sinusulat mo sa ibang column!!!…You are just no different with Mideo, Utak Talangka!!!!….Let Me remind you what you wrote… 
       
          “Chua Bee 13 hours ago
       
      o                  Lexy5, yes i agree. Most of the Filipinos here are low life…they did not realise that they are now part of karma. Christiano naman sana, but the posts here said it all otherwise.  Thank goodness I am no longer a Filipino. BTW GMA did not directly kill anyone of you here or your siblings, so your hatred is mindless stupid, low, and brutal.
       
      LOL filipinos are christian /catholic? These posts say otherwise. What a shame. Whenever I see a filipino overseas, I want to spit on them and remind them that hatred is a deadly sin”

         Now tell me, are you a saint just because you defend Christ….Sana nakakatulog ka pa ng mahimbing!!!….Kaya kung kaya mong dumura kahit sinong Pilipino makikita mo sana kaya mong ipagtanggol ang sarili mo!!!!….Baka katulad ka rin ni Mike Arroyo, malaki nga ang bibig pero wala namang bayag!!!….

      Kaya ito ang tandaan mo marami pa rin kaming Pilipinong nagmamahal sa ating Lupang Hinirang !!!….Ang Mamatay nang Dahil Sa Yo!!!!!

      • Anonymous

        Sinong Chua bee na’to… subukan nyang dudura pag nagkasalubong kami at kuskus ko yong nguso nya sa ceminto…hoy…Chua bee kung saan kaman naroroon dyan ka na lang…at huwag mong ipagamalaking yong kinalalagyan mo ngayon dahil adapted ka lang jan…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XIJY2MSBTT7VT256PTE7VDEFPM JOJIE

    At whatever point of view we look at it, its really bad.  Try mo na lang sana na mukha mo ang nilagyan mo ng penis at dinisplay mo doon. I’m sure walang mag re react.  Kaya lang gusto mo mapansin. Hindi ganyan ang artist in real sense. Wala silang sinisira na image or stature in life in line with their desire to express their art. Publicity lang ang habol mo cause you are sure na wala ka namang binatbat at para sabihing artist ka. You succeeded in your purpose. Manahimik ka na at baka samain ka pa sa mga kristiano na  gusto ring mapansin katulad mo.       

  • http://twitter.com/Jochameleon John Chameleon

    To the CCP Exec, GOOD RIDDANCE!

    The artists cry foul – they cried CROCODILE TEARS!

    I am rankled by these charlatans considering Cruz as an “artist.” All Cruz is is a VANDAL and PORN-OBSESSED freak.

    • Anonymous

      they should send those phalluses in the lab for testing…make sure they are safe for others who share the same views as the artist to see, medio might have gone thru them!

  • Anonymous

    Even in a achool, a bad-influence teacher and/or his teachings can be suspended or fired but the classroom stays because it is the venue for learning and wisdom. Take down all the unwanted exhibits but the venue should stay open for other art and cultural shows.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WK3JTU5UQSQEBM7XBNFO4KJ7OE muddy

    Back to the dark ages…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BDKDA4PBJULTTOZCJFQLWQQJYM Pinoy Ako

    to think that these artists are from the UST? a Catholic-run School?. Oh no. they should be expelled from this school for expressing their u-ten mentality. Well, maybe the priests there likes to see penises also….kasi baka mga bading din. Sana mali ako para naman ma-disiplina ang mga artists kuno na ito. I request all newspapers to publish the pictures, names and addresses of these artists kuno.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2BCV2YTRFVA3YOVMAN2A4RFHBM markx

    if catholics find it bad, why watch it?
    if they dont like it, they are not compelled to watch it!

    its like sex…
    sex for others is good, a good exercise…
    sex for others is not good, evil… that is if you, a third or nth party, watch it.
    but why watch something you find evil?

    is it the watching or the act of those who do it that makes the act/exhibit evil, not good?
    if it is the watching then DONT WATCH IT!

    are we going to curtail the freedom of others just because we don’t like what they do?
    we are going to stop having sex just because the nuns, priests according to them don’t do sex?

    Catholics don’t even follow their Bible to the word and even doing a lot of practices that violates their Bible…  something that other Christian groups do not like. Will the non-catholic Christians demand, file a case in court for that matter?

    Catholics are very PATHETIC!

    If the “sin” committed by somebody not within their ranks, its evil!
    but if their priests, bishops commits sin, it’s OK?

    PATHETIC CATHOLICS!

    • Anonymous

      markx maghinahinay ka sa pananalita mo. We are not pathetic and we are not going to church because we adore the priests, the bishops and the pope. We go to church because we adore the God na binastos nyo. What if we make a drawing or art of your mother or sister or father and put a penis in front of it just as the way you and Mideo did with Christ and display it on a public space like the CCP, would you be happy? Tell me if it has not violated your right of prevention against malicious and obscene acts? Same with me, Christ is my brother and father and yet what have you done to Him? It is normal for me to be outrageous and violent dahil pamilya ko ang binastos nyo.

    • Anonymous

      @ markx

      attacking one’s belief is NEVER a good idea! it goes on forever… you’ve gone too far out of context! if you want i can discuss about religion, yours in particular! and i can twist it (like you guys do) to make it the worst ever in human history!

      what medio violated is Article 201 if the Phil Penal Code!

    • Anonymous

      @markx

      “if catholics find it bad, why watch it?
      if they dont like it, they are not compelled to watch it!”

      so you’re saying it’s fine to put a carved penis/pussy on your mom’s face as long as she doesn’t see it?

    • Anonymous

      @yahoo-2BCV2YTRFVA3YOVMAN2A4RFHBM:disqus  – this is not just about a simple thing like a movie or a show that you can choose to watch if you like it and not if you don’t like it.  on this premise i agree with you..but this is all about religious belief and faith of people, that we have nurtured since we were born, lived with it and by it.  I know this too is important to you. Hindi ba ang paniniwala mo ay isang bagay na importante syo, and whatever that belief of yours is, we respect that.  how about respecting that of others?

      with freedom comes responsibility.  what freedom is there if majority are hurt and insulted, trampled upon and antagonized?  masaya ka ba with your freedom at the expense of insulting and trampling upon religious belief ng iba?  where is freedom there, in the real sense?  Totoo bang na-aattain mo ang tunay na laya knowing that with what you have done, other people are hurting, na nilapastangan mo ang paniniwala nila, na kasi you are entitled to your freedom ok na lapastanganin mo ang iba? 
      can you not exercise freedom na nirerespeto din ang kapwa.  This is just all about respect sa paniniwala ng kapwa mo, each of us is entitled to that.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OVGQOX6ZM534YIKBKXHROMNQJE raul

    perhaps, the ccp board must reflect on what happened in London this past few day of riots, etc. That is the product of what they want- ” freedom of expression” Perhaps, if we are not careful about this thing, sooner of later we will experience the same situation in London.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O6T7FESQFYUHWZO4ME6NLXZNJA Linu p

    That is not freedom of expression, its rather called kulang sa pansin……dapat sa kulungan mag exhibit yang mga desperate artist na yan they have no place in the society this insane people na nagpapansin lang dapat sa mintal hospital…..art 201 of the RPC punishes their act…kasohan na ang mga yan… 

  • http://www.facebook.com/TATAYniROJOatROSSI Tataynirojoatrossi Malaya

    The point often raised by many people who found Mideo Cruz’s artwork “Poleteismo” offensive is that there was abuse of “the freedom of expression.” To me this raises the question, does freedom of expression really have a limit? Is there such a thing as a line between socially acceptable and unacceptable freedom of expression? In my own opinion, it can be said that freedom of expression as a basic human right can be put into question when it crosses the border of violating another human right. If someone, for example, feels extremely mad at Mideo, he or she has every right to lambast Mideo through numerous Facebook status messages, blog articles, flyers, posters, artworks, he or she can even organize a rally against Mideo. But when this someone decides to express his utmost anger by attacking Mideo physically, as many online comments have already implied, that is when the right to freedom of expression crosses the line. Mideo and his artwork Poleteismo on the other hand did not cross this line. Mideo’s artwork did not force anyone to not attend their sunday church, or to not listen to their favorite preacher on the radio and TV, otherwise he would have violated the right to freedom of religion and belief of others. It did not close down another art exhibit which would’ve curtailed the right to freedom of expression of other artists. Mideo may have offended christians, especially catholics, but he is not guilty of destroying someone else’s artwork, of a futile attempt at arson, of hurting, torturing, abducting, detaining or even killing another person with a contradicting opinion to his. Mideo is not guilty of colonizing another country and forcing his own belief to others to the point of massacring entire populations and erasing entire cultures. If anything, Mideo is guilty of trying to express his own opinion freely through his artwork without violating another persons right. But he is not guilty of the so-called “abuse” of the freedom of expression. That said, Mideo, let me express my opinion on your artwork, I don’t like it. Not because of the content,..”wala e, di ko siya trip men..”

    • Anonymous

      point taken. however, that part in which you said Mideo did not cross the line in exercising his freedom of expression, i think he really crossed it – the fact that he exhibited his ‘artworks’ sa isang public place, specifically a public institution like CCP. buti sana kung sa bahay niya lang dinisplay. pero dude, it’s CCP, even though he never forced anybody to see his exhibits, eh CCP yun eh! regularly pinupuntahan yun ng tao, different people with different cultures and backgrounds.

      for me, what Mideo did is like having sex in a public place.

    • Anonymous

      point taken. however, that part in which you said Mideo did not cross the line in exercising his freedom of expression, i think he really crossed it – the fact that he exhibited his ‘artworks’ sa isang public place, specifically a public institution like CCP. buti sana kung sa bahay niya lang dinisplay. pero dude, it’s CCP, even though he never forced anybody to see his exhibits, eh CCP yun eh! regularly pinupuntahan yun ng tao, different people with different cultures and backgrounds.

      for me, what Mideo did is like having sex in a public place.

      • http://www.facebook.com/TATAYniROJOatROSSI Tataynirojoatrossi Malaya

        TO 621achilles

        Thank you for your response. I assume that you really took time to think over what you are going to say here and I really appreciate that.

        I just realized something, that we might not be able to achieve a common understanding here (in the internet). I’m not talking about you and me, but with everyone else who have engaged in this debate here in the internet.

        With all this “hate mongering” that I pointed out in another comment, a dialogue in this kind of venue will lead to nowhere, which is really frustrating.

        This doesn’t mean that I will stop at that. I will instead go amongst the people, in the streets, in their communities, have open discussions with them, and hopefully come up with a true dialogue that will achieve true understanding.

        Much work is needed to be done, on how everyone (including me) can have an open and critical mind.

        Goodbye internet comment space. (well, not really, I might pop-up on other issues, depending on how I feel about myself exercising my freedom of expression).

  • Anonymous

    How about putting penis on the image of Buddah? I would also react even if I’m Catholic. It’s about respect.

  • Anonymous

    THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES, THIS IS A GIVEN. BUT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT NOT TO WANT TO SEE IT, PAY FOR ITS EXHIBITION AND DEMAND ITS REMOVAL.
    IF THIS IS TRUE ART, LET HIM DISPLAY IT IN A PRIVATELY OWNED ART DEALERS COLLECTION AND DISPLAY AND SEE HOW IT DOES.

    PEOPLE, THIS IS THE GREAT GAME THAT PEOPLE OF MINORITY VIEWS USE TO CAUSE STRIFE AND ARGUMENT BY THE PUBLIC. THEY KNOW THAT THOSE IMAGES CAUSE ILL WILL, THAT WAS THEIR PURPOSE IN CREATING IT.
    THE MAJORITY HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE IT REMOVED. THE CCP IS NOT A PRIVATELY RUN EXHIBITION HALL, IT IS PAID BY THE TAXES OF THE MAJORITY.

  • http://twitter.com/Jochameleon John Chameleon

    the CCP should be headed by a real artist, not by a militant trying to inveigle people to believe that she competent and knowledgeable.

  • Guest

    This is good news. 

  • Anonymous

    Our rights are limited by the rights of others.  You may have the right to smoke but I also have the right to breathe clean air.  You may have the right to have loud parties at night but I also have the right to have restful sleep at night.  You may have the right to express yourself in art but I also have the right to be free from attacks on my religious beliefs

  • Ralph Evan Gesta

    How about a Muslim faith version of what they did. Do they have the guts?

    • Anonymous

      “How about a Muslim faith version of what they did. Do they have the guts?”

      bakit mo gusto gumawa ng MUSLIM faith version galit ka ba sa MUSLIM???

      ‘yon artwork ay ginawa para iparating sa isang relihiyon na nang-aapi at nang-aabuso sa atin bayan, ang isang makabuluhan  mensahe. dahil masakit tangapin ang katotohanan sinasabi ng mensahe, ngayon nais ng relihiyon ito na kitilin ang FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.

      • Anonymous

        here is the counter to your freedom of expression: Article 201 of phil penal code, read and understand it!

      • Anonymous

        “here is the counter to your freedom of expression: Article 201 of phil penal code, read and understand it!”

        questionin mo ang FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION sa kasong ito sa korte. sana hangang supreme court para malaman natin ang final na kasagutan.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Guyana/1194321435 Jim Guyana

    if these artists really crying for freedom of expression, why don’t you try to do it to the religious symbols of Islam? yong lang kaya nyo ang ginaganyan nyo!!

  • Anonymous

    I’m raised a Roman Catholic turned progressive (as Jesus was) Christian Catholic who appreciates art.  Art to me is something that pleases the senses namely visual, olfactory, auditory, tactile, gustatory (at times) and  the emotions; and the intellect. 

    The exhibit under query here I glanced on TV and some newspapers.  I cannot view it with pleasure nor be pleased by it.  It’s like the work of someone who misses being loved in the home or have had a sad childhood or simply wants attention or just utterly living in a world of his own.

    It’s disgusting to my senses, sorry to say…should not even deserve much talk about it.  

    Art without responsibility and sensitivity to certain sectors of the sane society.  The art is bad samskara.

    Just thinking…

  • http://www.facebook.com/jeruelcanales Jeruel Canales

    I hate militant christian religionists. Hate it to the core. Jesus set them an example that they are to turn the other cheek, should be meek, should not fight back when persecuted, etc etc. Now? They cant be persecuted anymore. They manipulate the government, they become an angry mob when provoke, use their brand of religion to advance their personal agenda.

    Christianity started as a humble, unpopular, persecuted and loving sect. After that history is replete with episodes of them maiming, pillaging, killing, thieving, name it theyve done it. Thats the reason most of the world hate christianity. They dont mind their own business. Theyll tell you whats good for you and feel offended that you dont find what they believe to be worth emulating. If youre not offended by this post, then Id be inclined to elevate you to Christianity with a capital C. That kind of Christianity is what the world need today.

    • Chua Bee

      So now it is an excuse to place a penis on Christ’s face? Just because this nation has been tolerant to these types of expression, you will start abusing it? Christianity indeed is humble and still it is, but to use and abuse it for the sake of art and tiltillation someone’s twisted sick imagination 0—–is UNACCEPTABLE.

      • Chua Bee

        Gets mo Jeruel? Huwag maging bobo. Read and don’t twist the whole truth.

    • Anonymous

      Probably you are right of hating people who reacted against the vandalism of the sacred of the Holy Cross of Jesus Christ and the Blessed Virgin Mary. Your point of view is all about the modern day of artistic… am I do right? Well,  I would like to make my own artistic view of a picture concerning your beloved mom or wife facing a large peneus of a male organ  wrapped in condom and ready to be swallowed. Is this just okay for you!? 

  • Anonymous

    Oh shut up Karen. It’s unbelievable how narrow-minded you are! In the first place, it is your BAD decision-making skills that got the CCP in this position. It’s not just about YOUR principles and YOUR “artistic” point-of-view it’s also about respecting people’s sensibilities and thinking about how your actions will affect the institution that gave you work.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Tom/100002299040836 Bob Tom

    Karen Flores? Sya lang? Ba’t sya lang? 

    I disagree with your view ms or mr Tataynirojoatrossi Malaya… The painting of the sacred heart which he vandalized is a work of the medieval time painter named Simione. Samakatwid may mga nagmamay ari ng mga larawang binaboy niya; marahil oo matagal na at mga nangamatay na sila ngunit hindi iyon kay mideon cruz! Iyon ay Obra maestra na dapat pinahahalagahan ng mga taong tulad niya. 

    Isang kalapastanganan sa mundo ng Sining ang kanyang ginawa!

    • http://www.facebook.com/TATAYniROJOatROSSI Tataynirojoatrossi Malaya

      To Bob Tom, I think there is a big difference between the actual artwork and a replica. The materials used for Mideo’s work were “found objects.” And to say that “may nag-mamay-ari ng mga larawang binaboy niya,” well, the funny thing is, religious belief nowadays are so commercialized that you can buy such “religious” images at the bookstore, or even in the sidewalks of Quiapo, so whoever buys that piece of poster (or what have you) technically becomes your property (not the original artwork).

      Thank you for responding though. I just hope you are not engulfed in hate (seeing those exclamation marks, I imagine you shouting). 

      You see, this is what I think is really frustrating in this whole debate, or mostly, any debate over the internet peddled by the media (i.e. Christopher Lau).  It really is so frustrating how a lot of the critics (of Mideo and the Kulo exhibit) especially here on the internet have succumbed to this “hate mongering” rather than engaging in a true open dialogue. It seems as though everyone just jumped this band wagon of hate mongering because their beliefs are said to have been offended – “are said to have been offended,” because I assume that most people engaging in this debate did not actually see the exhibit or the actual Poleteismo work itself, they were just shown by the media bits and pieces of the exhibit or the artwork, and were only “told” by the media that their beliefs were offended.

      Anyway, again, as I have said, you can lambast Mideo all you want, you are entitled to that as guaranteed by your right to freedom of expression.

      By the way, to the person who said that “It’s unbelievable how narrow-minded Karen (Flores) is, well, don’t you see, this kind of attitude that thinks that your own point of view is the only one worthy of respect, this attitude itself is narrow-minded, well, I would understand if you will be too narrow-minded to not understand my point.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B3AWJ2F3HFXFJW25D6GTTDLILE Crusader

        Now is a very sound piece to read. It is more narrative than opinionated. Very well said sir and very balanced. The writer is coming from a very broad perspective and his comment is that of explanatory without affirmation on what side he is taking.

        I hope there will be more bloggers if this kind. Someone who will make you think and not make you hate.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

    If “artists” want to express themselves in their own way of making a piece of art despite knowing that other people are offended by it, they should not flaunt their  artworks and make us all now appear “to be without a sense of art” and clueless what art  really is. Others who claim to be not offended also flaunt their ignorance to compare Medio Cruz and the artist of the Sistine Chapel, Michaelangelo. Sheeeesssh.

    Ms. Emily Abrera, do you not think that you are being insensitive and imperious that your concept of art is not shared by other people? Why is it so difficult for a government functionary like you to know the meaning of delicadeza? Even if you feel that you have been wrongly accused and, in your words, “practically bullied”, the decent way to approach a controversy is to leave quietly and not make intriguing statements that now we owe you an apology?

    Excuse me, your six years of service at the CCP does not exempt you from criticism. You may have done exceptionally well in the past but this present controversy is the time for you to leave. There is always an end to everything. And, your beloved “artists” can commiserate with you for all we care. Imagine the president of the country has been nice to you without directly pinning the blame on you for this mess. How could you not see that?

    • http://www.facebook.com/jeruelcanales Jeruel Canales

      To be offended by an artwork is a sign of immaturity. Artists are guaranteed by the constitution to offend anybody including you. You are a mild version of muslim exteremists who burn and riot just because a comic caricature of their prophet circulated.

      The world should offend the Christians. Even persecute them. Even kill them. And what should Christians do? Forgive the world for they know not what to do.

      • Chua Bee

        Guaranteed to kill as well (since its an expression). Jeruel your logic is twisted.  To be offended by an artwork that desecrate Christ is no a sign of immaturity but a sign of civility. Bakla kaba?

      • Anonymous

        You are not mature enough to be judge to others. If your mother is cursed in your face, would you not be offended? This Mideo Cruz has not only figuratively cursed a mother – he cursed what many of us regard as their God! Even from an academic standpoint, it should be easy enough for a normal person to understand why his work invited so much negative reaction. People who have no sensitivity to the rights and feelings of others do not deserve to be called artists.

      • Anonymous

        Dude, forgiveness doesn’t mean you won’t have to defend your faith. Even the Bible tells us this, “There is a time for everything…a time be silent and a time to speak…”. I for one don’t hate him. But i do hate what he did.

      • Anonymous

        dude…Eye for an Eye…

      • Anonymous

        hi bro!

      • Anonymous

        Dude, forgiveness doesn’t mean you won’t have to defend your faith. Even the Bible tells us this, “There is a time for everything…a time be silent and a time to speak…”. I for one don’t hate him. But i do hate what he did.

      • Anonymous

        The Constitution indeed guarantees the freedom of expression. And the expression can be in the form of arts. But like any freedom guaranteed by our Constitution, it is also limited. This constitutional guarantee is just patterned after the US Constitution and the US Supreme Court as early as 1942 has already ruled that libel and obscenity are the classes of expression or speech that should be prevented and punished because “such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by social interest in order and morality” (Chaplinsky vs. New Hampshire, 315 US 572).

    • Anonymous

      very well said.  

  • Anonymous

    Try putting penis on the mouth of GMA’s image, there will be no negative reactions.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HUE7BZXUJ7I5AFIBEPSIBONAHA Alfred A

      There will be from FG if it will not be his pe… hehehe…

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Leodegardo-Pruna/100000668583781 Leodegardo Pruna

      I doubt your statement.

      • Anonymous

        Hehehe! Just a thought!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z7TT53UTICS2S2W6SUMEDRBZCU Romy

    they should not be just told to resign, they should be punish harshly! they insulted and offended our Great God Images!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Leodegardo-Pruna/100000668583781 Leodegardo Pruna

    This time, I completely agree with P-Noy. He said, there is no such thing as “absolute” freedom. If you begin hurting others by what you are doing, then you should be stopped. God bless the Philippines.

  • Anonymous

    Just reading some comments here tells me those those who support and cling to the likes of Mideo C and Karen of CCP seemingly exhibits ‘moral relativism’, as these two individuals may be, which may mean “to me it is true and real…and I believe it and want it”.

    Such behavior of unmindfulness if you ask me.I pray they change their ways to the ways of Jesus…and not the ways of man which many times are distorted and corrupt reminiscent of the Corinthians (as written by the apostle Paul).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HFNZNCDTUM5YQFG4OLDKEVCFHI Jesson

    Just asking;
    1. Which is least offensive? Burning a bible, a picture of Jesus Christ or Your Family Portrait?
    2. Which is more acceptable? Putting a wooden penis on a picture of Jesus Christ or on Your family Portrait?
    3. Which is more abusive? Mideo’s works on Catholics or Catholics work on Mideo?

    • Chua Bee

      jesson,,,,how stupid can you be. You know the answer.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HFNZNCDTUM5YQFG4OLDKEVCFHI Jesson

        and thats what you call a smart answer??

      • Chua Bee

        jesson go back to school. posting your questions which clearly show the answer, were not positing at all. stupid ka talaga oo. Don’t dare replying to my posts are I don’t deserve someone like you reading my thread.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HFNZNCDTUM5YQFG4OLDKEVCFHI Jesson

        Likewise, I also suggest – BILI KA UTAK, DI MO ALAM NA WALA KA PA NYAN…. Bwahahaha

    • Anonymous

      @JESSON

      “Just asking;
      1. Which is least offensive? Burning a bible, a picture of Jesus Christ or Your Family Portrait?
      2. Which is more acceptable? Putting a wooden penis on a picture of Jesus Christ or on Your family Portrait?
      3. Which is more abusive? Mideo’s works on Catholics or Catholics work on Mide”o?

      i dont see any logic at these questions at all..but i find you have disagreements for the catholics which is NOT the main issue at all. HERE IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE ASKING: DID MEDIO VIOLATE ANYTHING LEGAL? AND THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES! THE LONG ANSWER IS ARTICLE 201 OF THE PHIL PENAL CODE, IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT IT’S ALL ABOUT!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HFNZNCDTUM5YQFG4OLDKEVCFHI Jesson

        We are talking how offensive Mideo Cruz and those people defending him did but how about  the offenses done and continue to be doing to them? Medio surely violated a law, but how about those people who violated him and continues to violate him? Answer my third question then ask yourself IF YOU ARE FAIR…

      • Anonymous

        a criminal locked-up in jail can’t go after the law for taking away his freedom…simple as that! what violation are you accusing them of? you can answer your all your questions, for they are not logical to me!

      • Anonymous

        It’s called being hypocritical, something the RCC is very good at.

      • Anonymous

        and what is your faith good at? twist catholics teachings! you force other’s to believe in your faith??? you’re good in questioning catholic faith…why can’t you guys come up with your own?

  • http://twitter.com/iduniq iduniq

    From their resolute stance, they never think that “hsart” is offensive and does not deserve to be exhibited in CCP.  They should be kicked out from their positions to prevent a similar fiasco from happening again.

  • Anonymous

    Dapat lumabas na si JESUS CHRIST at magfile nang defamation kang Mideo. Jesus Christ saan kana? binastos ka ni Medio. Ang mga followers mo ai nagalit at kinukutya na si Mideo dahil gumawa siya nang larawan mo na may uten sa noo. Ikaw lang ang makapagsolve nitong walang kwentang problema na ito. Gusto ko rin malaman kung anong opinion mo JESUS CHRIST sa bagay nato. Request ko kung pwde gamitin mo ang thread na ito para ma notify ako sa email. Tnx in advance.

    • Anonymous

      HE’D COME OUT AND SILENCE YOU!

      • Anonymous

        Aaah. Galit sya sa opinion ko? Bakit? Hindi nmn ako gumawa ng larawan nya na may uten sa noo. Grabe nmn pala yan si Jesus Christ pagmahurt, parang DDS pinatatahimik Nya.

      • Anonymous

        Actually hindi si Jesus Christ yun tinutukoy mo kundi yun mga tao na naaidentified yung sarili nila dun sa sinasabi mo… Tulad natin parehas tayong Filipino, we identified ourselves with our Flag… How would you react if someone put that “thing” in our flag?… Its a matter of respect as saying goes… If you can’t love me, show some respect. and by the way, I’m not catholic… just like you – ordinary Filipino

      • Anonymous

        aah. pagmay oten na ilagay sa watawat natin ai hindi ako magalit, matawa lang ako at magtanong kung sino ang naglagay ng oten sa flag. total may law naman dyan diba, im sure may law na violate pagginawa yan at pwde siyang makulong. Alam mo ba bakit nilagyan ni Cruz nang oten ang noo ni JESUS CHRIST? May ibig siyang ipahiwatig doon si cruz mayroon interpretation doon. Sa aking pananaw ai isa itong kritisismo ang ginawa niya sa Hierarchy nang Catholiko at yun larawan ai ginamit niyang bilang material sa kanyang expression para sa kritisismo. So for example nalang maraming PARI na maraming chicks ang iba may anak pa, maraming paring bading napumapatul sa lalaki, at makikita mo sa news ai mayroon bishop na nanghingi nang birthday  gift, SUV ata yun. at walang ginawa at tinatago pa Hierarchy nang Katoliko ang mga issue na ito. tama ba expression ang larawan ni jesus christ na meron oten sa noo ang nangyayaring ito? sa aking palagay tama, maylaman nga ang art niya sa mga nangyayari at mga issue sa ating lipunan.

        at saka hindi rin ako naniniwala namasama lahat nang katoliko, maraming mababait sa katoliko, pero wala silang ginawang solution sa mga issueng ito, hinahayaan ba nila? natatakot ba sila? ewan ko. gusto mo bang ma solve yan na problema? sa tingin ko gusto mo at gusto ko.

      • Anonymous

        i want to stick the same thing (phallus) on your belief coz i think your belief is corrupt and i will call it ART! how would you react to that? if you got issues, deal with it in a nicer way!

      • Anonymous

        ” i want to stick the same thing (phallus) on your belief coz i
        think your belief is corrupt! how would you react to that? if you got
        issues, deal with it in a nicer way!”

        ====> I would: Try to understand why you think my belief is corrupt and see if you have valid points. Pray for you. Then let God be the judge. But I would not become a Catholic Taliban and inquisitors like many here.

      • Anonymous

        i know of persons that sounds like you, they try to make me believe in their faith! i tell them to shut up! i have my own belief! you are exactly like them…they take a passage of the bible and think it would explain everything! like you see a line in this thread and you react to it without even reading the preceding statements! poor you! may your faith save you!

      • Anonymous

        “i know of persons that sounds like you, they try to make me believe in their faith! i tell them to shut up!”

        =====> But why be so narrow-minded? Why not engage in a debate and see which argument is more  logical. If you really have faith you would welcome such opportunities. However if your faith is as fragile as thin glass, of course you would tell them to shut up, lest your glass be shattered.

        “you are exactly like them…they take a passage of the bible and think it would explain everything!”

        =====> So again why not engage in a rational discussion, rather than acting hysterical.

      • Anonymous

        you’re really one of them…

      • Anonymous

        “you’re really one of them… ”

        One of who??? You keep saying “one of them”, but you never told me who “them” is?
        Aliens?

      • Anonymous

        one of those faiths that try to convert others….stay away from me!

      • Anonymous

        “one of those faiths that try to convert others….stay away from me! ”

        ===> Huh??? I’m converting you into what? A banana?
        It’s a joke right?

      • Anonymous

        reading your posts, you really are trying to wash my brain…but NO THANKS! instead of doing such, vent your opposition to others in a proper place NOT here… YOU’RE OUT OF CONTEXT…if you have something against the catholic faith go on and consult the individuals, but your faith probably teaches not to talk or interact with them coz it would be a sin!

      • Anonymous

        “reading your posts, you really are trying to wash my brain…”
        ===> Paranoid ka ano?

        “vent your opposition to others in a proper place NOT here…”
        ===> Huh? Opposition to what?

        “your faith probably teaches not to talk or interact with them coz it would be a sin!”
        ===> Ummmm….. no, that is not correct.

      • Anonymous

        pre .mukhang tagalog eto tapos pina translate sa web.. lol

      • Anonymous

        meron kang mga statement pero hindi mo namn nilalagyan nang laman. biyan mo nang rason kung bakit ang paniwala ko ai corrupt at bakit art sa iyo yun, para naman magkakaruon ako nang masasabi sa mga statement mo. kaya sa tanong mo anong reaction ko? wala akong reaction kasi walang laman yung mga pinagsasabi mo.

      • Anonymous

        cguro di mo napansin yun ibang post ko… I’ve stated there na ndi ako catholic… I just want to emphasize na sinuman sa atin eh kailangan din irespeto ang paniniwala ng iba…  maybe galit ka sa IBANG catholic as I sense sa tone ng post mo… pero maari ka gumawa ng ibang paraan para ipahayag ito in a way ndi lahat sila ay ma – ooffend.. Cguro may kaibigan ka o kamag-anak pa nga na catholic, dahil ba sa frustrated ka sa mga PARI eh… ipapagwalang bahala mo na rin ang damdamin nila… Respect…. but if you can LOVE then its better….

      • Anonymous

        alam mo hindi yun frustration ang pinagsasalita ko. yun ai ang realidad natin. ito ai nangyayari. aking lamang sinasabi ang realidad. kung nakakaoffend ang realidad e wala akong magagawa kung hindi nila makayang sikmurain ang realidad. Galit ba ako sa katoliko? hindi ako galit, bakit naman ako magagalit sa katoliko? yung sinasabi ko ai criticismo lamang, at maybasihan yung criticismo ko sa paningin ko. Ang pagrespeto ai hindi ibig sabihin na manahimik kanalang, ang pagmahal ai hindi rin pagbigay lang nang kung anong gusto nila, kailangan mo din sabihin anong mali nila, bakit mali ito, at bakit dapat itong sulosyonan. at kung wala sila ginagawa sa problema na ito ai ako ai magcriticize lang hangat hindi nila sulosyonan ang mga problema na yun. hindi ako kailan man gagamit nang dahas ur death threat gaya nangyari sa ccp kasi sa paniwala ko ai isa itong mali na pamamaraan.

      • Anonymous

        tama ka dyan, realidad yun kaya nga nafrufrustrate ako eh… kasi yun ang totoo.. at may kanya-kanya tayong paraan para harapin ang mga ganitong sitwasyon… You do it in your way and I do it my way… katulad mo ndi ko rin sinasuggest sa mga post ko na maging extremist to the point na maglatag ng deat threat of anumang dahas…  I just preferred it the way I know… it may be not as good as you find it but still for me its the way…. but i respect your views… kahit pa magkaiba tayo.

      • Anonymous

        Ako din hindi nmn galit sa mga nagcomment na hindi agree sa akin. para sa akin ai normal lang namagkakaiba ang pananaw nang bawat isa, maypananaw na tingin ko ai mali at meron din tama at sa tingin ko sa lahat nang tao applicable yan. At hindi ko rin masasabi na mas maganda yung pamamaraan ko compare sa iba, hindi ko na yan iniisip. ang importante sa akin e magpalitan tayo nang opinion at para sa ganun malaman natin ang iba’t iba’t sentimento ng tao sa issue na ito. Hindi rin ako naniniwala na perpekto ang opinion ko, may rason yun sa tingin ko at alam ko na may limitation ang pagisip2x ko. Alam ko na may possibility na may magcomment na agree ako na mali yung opinion ko, at aamin ko naman yun.

        kahit na peraha o iba ang ating pananaw. I Wish You All The Best In Life.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_R6KRXBONEUNUDYDRR5FTUZAY4A Edongski

    all they talk about is the rights of the artists… how about the rights of the public who were affronted by their art? lagi na lang ba ang api ang may rights? paano ang mga tao na hindi “artist” at mga karapatan nila… maybe the directors of CCP should have thought about not only rights of the artist to express… but also the right of the public to be offended and demand retirbution… they serve after all at the pleasure of the public…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z7TT53UTICS2S2W6SUMEDRBZCU Romy

    this so called great artists are just KSP and publicity desperate people, they used the images of our Saviour to earn attention. they dont used their own pictures and images to express their so called artistic views becoz even to them they cant stand to see themselves in that position! 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CH6ED2C2MA7KSQOZ2SCQD4XPRY Mylene

    “defend our right to express ourselves”??? — We are still in a democratic country, yun nga lang, ang demokrasya ay may kaakibat din na responsibilidad. Hindi porke’t binigyan ka ng laya, di mo na iisipin kung ano ang magiging epekto nito.
    Sa mga artists, I do appreciate yung mga gawa nila. I don’t even care kung gusto nila i-exercise ang kanilang right to express themselves. Ang punto lang dito, hindi dapat sa CCP nilagay ito. Sana, nagbukas na lang sila ng sarili nilang exhibit at dun nilagay ang kanilang mga gawa. E di sana, hindi nagkakaroon ng ganitong mararahas na opinyon.

    Never naging solusyon ang pagbibitiw sa pwesto. Mas maganda, bago magresign, mapag-usapan muna yan ng mabuti para may closure. Hindi yung ganyang nagresign na, yakyak pa ng yakyak.. Wala rin naresolba…

  • Anonymous

    again, who are these clowns masquerading as “artists.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UNH5BQSJ6VAPCPKLLEKZWZWXB4 Nilo Abaya

    Mga artists na taga UST bulok. Bilib pa rin ako sa UP artists marunong makibaka. Mga hang ups ng mga taga UST laos na, mga tarugo mga bayag. 

  • Anonymous

    Mideo Cruz’s “work” polytheism is not a work of art; it is plagiarism of the lowest kind. The materials he used were not originally his; he merely misused the works of others for a baser purpose – to provoke others. He should not have let others destroy what he did – he should have destroyed it himself. Karen Flores and Emily Abrera unfortunately forgot that they are not only protectors of “artists”; as government functionaries, they should also regard themselves as protectors of society. They should have known that the work of Mideo Cruz would offend a lot of people. Why risk harm to society simply to give vent to the caprice of this artist kuno? They should have found balance and prudence.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian-Henry-Lacson/1399484890 Christian Henry Lacson

    Yes you have rights to express your opinions and views as artists, but not to the extent of making fun of such religious “ITEMS” reverred by any religious organization! wag niong babuyin ang relihiyon ng iba.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSBNZB3TEKHJE5A74STZTTUHC4 ed0408

    The artists should put a penis on the face of Lagman and have it displayed in Congress. Or for the sake of the artist’s freedom of expression, why not desecrate the Muslim religion. Let us see if the artist’s heads will not roll like what happened to the soldiers in Basilan.

  • Anonymous
  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UNH5BQSJ6VAPCPKLLEKZWZWXB4 Nilo Abaya

    Hoy Mideo, Pacena, Raul Sunico, Emily Abrera, Karen Flores: Yung ginawa nyo dyan sa CCP e makikita nyo napakarami sa mga kubeta sa barangay toilet.. Tignan mo sa likod ng pintuan, ginagawa ng mga nakaupo sa inidoro habang tumatae. Sasabihin nyo art yan, pwe.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FWYBJREDMYXSRATWYZLKR7C2GA None

    Guess we should all sue and cry about everything that offends us.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UNH5BQSJ6VAPCPKLLEKZWZWXB4 Nilo Abaya

    Hoy Mideo, Pacena, Raul Sunico, Emily Abrera, Karen Flores: Yung ginawa
    nyo dyan sa CCP e makikita nyo napakarami sa mga kubeta sa barangay
    toilet.. Tignan mo sa likod ng pintuan, ginagawa ng mga nakaupo sa
    inidoro habang tumatae. Sasabihin nyo art yan, pwe.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HFNZNCDTUM5YQFG4OLDKEVCFHI Jesson

    MR. CHUA BEE,
    I supposed you are a Catholic and yet you don’t act as one. Offending ba ang tintanong ko o yung sagot mo? Ok na sana yung mga comment mo dito sa thread, kaya lang sa sobrang dami ng comment mo e nakikita na kung gaano kabaho ang pang unawa mo. How easy to say “stupid” and “bobo” to somebody when you are talking about Christianity…

    • Chua Bee

      You are bobo. Your stupid questions deserve comments like mine. Bakit mo tinatanong eh alam mo naman ang sagot? Utak konyo kaman pala eh

  • http://twitter.com/sirjopz sir jopz

    another lady gaga in the fun-noy admin..Emily A…more lady gagas soon …abangan

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UNH5BQSJ6VAPCPKLLEKZWZWXB4 Nilo Abaya

    Emily Abrera, Raul Sunico, Karen Flores, naloko kayo ni Mideo. Mga konyo kasi kayo, hindi nyo alam napaka-ordinaryong ginagawa yan ng mga tumatae sa kubeta sa public toilets habang nakaupo sa inidoro. Ngayon ay nasa CCP na. Naging art na, freedom of expression pa. Talaga naman. Bwa ha ha ha!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000090902668 Pat Bello

    nakakatawa talaga mga kapawa kong katoliko. sabi nila maka diyos sila pero puro mura at galit naman ang laman ng kanilang puso at madali silang ma-offend katulad ng mga romanong nagpapatay kay cristo. kaya  nga wala ng pag-asa ang pinas dahil sa kulturang ganito.

    • http://twitter.com/AntonioReygan Antonio

      katoliko ka ba? hmmmmm

  • Anonymous

    freedom of expression is not absolute…you can’t shout “fire” inside a movie theater…

    • Anonymous

      “freedom of expression is not absolute…you can’t shout “fire” inside a movie theater..”

      the above statement is true. 

      but in this case of the artwork it is protected by FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.

      challenge that in court.

      • dondsmarte

        Covered pa rin ba ng FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION ang religious intolerance? How about gays and lesbians bashing? Racism? Misogyny? Etc. etc. Hindi como majority ng Pinoy Katoliko, ok na ang relgious intolerance towards Catholics. You can not sow hatred on an icon that symbolizes Catholicism and say it is not an attacks on the Catholics themselves. 

      • Anonymous

        kung masama ang loob mo at nais mo makakuha ng damage payment , dahil mo sa korte.

  • Anonymous

    freedom of expression = i invoke my right against self-incrimination

  • http://www.yodisphere.com/ yodz

    Democracy combined with fanatic-Catholicism can move a country backwards. Here in the Philippines, most politicians are puppets of the bishops – they dictate what bills are acceptable to the church, and now they dictate what to censor. Kung si Lady Gaga ay Pinoy at kumanta siya dito ng “I’m in-love with Judas” malamang may hearing agad sa senado para ipatapon siya.       

    • Anonymous

      out of context! go tell it to the marines!

  • Anonymous

    we will never be free by ourselves; we will only be free together. My freedom grows in the measure in which your freedom also grows and together we work to create a society of free and solidarian citizens – Paulo Freire

  • Anonymous

    ?

  • Anonymous

    ARTICLE 19of the UN Covenant on Civil and Political Rights twenty years experience the world over has shown that the public good is better served by all-encompassing debate, even in harsh and offensive terms. From this standpoint, there is no evidence that laws against blasphemy are indeed “necessary”, but plenty demonstrating the opposite. Indeed, lessons from human history should dictate opposition to any attempts to stifle offensive or blasphemous speeches and discoveries. Freedom of expression is an “empowerment” right: It allows people to demand other rights – the right to health, to food, to a clean environment, to religion, etc. Curtailing this right on the basis of the possible offensive or blasphemous nature of an expression creates too great a risk to all freedoms for human rights gains that remain to be appropriately defined and justified. Indeed, as international human rights courts have stressed, the right to freedom of expression is applicable not only to “information” or “ideas” that are favourably received or regarded as inoffensive or as a matter of indifference, but
    also to those that offend, shock or disturb the State or any sector of the population. Such are the demands of pluralism, tolerance and broadmindedness without which there is no ‘democratic society’.

    • http://twitter.com/iduniq iduniq

      You’re confusing freedom of expression as art. Art is appreciated and valued.  If it is not then is does not deserve to be exhibited in CCP.

      • Anonymous

        art is a form of expression. maybe one of the purest forms

      • http://twitter.com/iduniq iduniq

        Well who decides whether a thing is an art? It’s the observer.  If the observer appreciates and values it then its an art whatever feelings, expressions, ideas, it conveys.

      • Anonymous

        yup, ALL observers not merely a portion

    • shane oy

      goodluck

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MK4VEJFHE3X7RLFFSS677B2LY4 Greg

    Once again… Dictatorship is introduced into the Philippines… Gagged from Voice and Artistic Expression.

    Shame…. shame….. shame

  • http://twitter.com/ReyrexA reyrex arcilla

    Anybody in our democratic country can express themselves provided you artist does not offend anyone’s sensitivity,respeto lang!

  • Anonymous

    Our opinions should be formed, and our treatment of others regulated, not by abstract knowledge, but by love.
    A man is usually much more likely to act right who is influenced by
    charity and love, than one who is guided by simple knowledge, or by
    self-confidence. One is humble, kind, tender toward the frailties of
    others, sensible himself of infirmity, and is disposed to do right; the
    other may be vain, harsh, censorious, unkind, and severe. Knowledge is
    useful; but for the practical purposes of life, in an erring and fallen
    world, love is more useful; and while the one often leads astray, the
    other seldom errs. Whatever knowledge we may have, we should make it a
    point from which we are never to depart, that our opinions of others,
    and our treatment of them, should be formed under the influence of love.

    This is not about catholics but for respect and love of our fellow Filipinos. Anyone has a right just be guided that it won’t go Left.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MK4VEJFHE3X7RLFFSS677B2LY4 Greg

    Religion and Art do not Mix…… Please leave each to their own vice….

  • Anonymous

    We are also very concerned about abuse of blasphemy laws throughout the world. In those
    situations that ARTICLE 19 of the UN Covenant on Civil and Political Rights monitors, blasphemy laws, even when they in theory at least extend
    to all beliefs and not just to state religion, are used to violate peoples right to freedom of religion
    – religious minorities are particularly targeted.
    Blasphemy laws are the anti-thesis of human rights. At a normative level, they establish a
    hierarchy of beliefs that betrays the common understanding and intentions of the international
    human rights framework. Blasphemy laws are the Servants of Power and the means for religious
    persecution; they censor, they create a climate of fears, and they stifle artistic creativity, academic
    research, scholarship and freedom. They may also lead to imprisonment and death – thus
    violating the most potent human rights of all – the right to mental and physical integrity, and the
    right to life.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MK4VEJFHE3X7RLFFSS677B2LY4 Greg

    “Anybody in our democratic country can express themselves provided you
    artist does not offend anyone’s sensitivity,respeto lang!”

    Those who are offended by Artistic Expression do not have to go to the exhibition….. How can you be offended if you don’t go….

    Your opinion may offend the artist….. So, who is more right than the other?????

  • Anonymous

    To PNoy, this is a challenge to you.  What do you do with the likes of Emily Abrera clinging to her position as Chairman of CCP like “tuko”, who obviously cannot carry the mission and vision of CCP, a state funded facility run by taxpayers money.

    Emily Abrera, you are not in a corporate world where you can do what you want.  This is government service, this is taxpyer’s money paying for you and running the facility.  to remind you, here is your 
    performance pledge.

    We, the officials and
    employees of the Cultural Center of the Philippines, wholeheartedly commit
    to:

     

    Always serve the public
    diligently and efficiently, with utmost courtesy and the highest degree of
    integrity, whenever our expertise and services are needed.

     

    Respond promptly to all
    inquiries and complaints about our services from arts and culture enthusiasts
    and the general public.

     

    Take pride in the
    continued promotion of artistic excellence, cultural values, Filipino
    easthetics and the national identity towards a humanistic global society.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001852991728 Cant Escape

    So as an artist, they think they can express whatever they want? That they can insult anyone?

    We should all proclaim ourselves as artist then. I wonder what chaos it would bring if everyone is throwing insults at anyone. Disrespecting each other.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IAQLUSKZ7TH4C2FHOD7SLQONQ4 bong

      Precisely.     Their stand is wrong.    If anyone can just insult or offend others,  that is not Freedom of Expression but rather an act inimical or detrimental to public good and interest.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

    Hindi naman magagalit ang mga tao kung private exhibit yun. But the CCP, which is funded from people’s taxes, chose to support these blasphemous exhibit at the people’s expense.

  • http://www.facebook.com/TATAYniROJOatROSSI Tataynirojoatrossi Malaya

    TO 621achilles

    Thank you for your response. I assume that you really took time to think over what you are going to say here and I really appreciate that.

    I just realized something, that we might not be able to achieve a common understanding here (in the internet). I’m not talking about you and me, but with everyone else who have engaged in this debate here in the internet.

    With all this “hate mongering” that I pointed out in another comment, a dialogue in this kind of venue will lead to nowhere, which is really frustrating.

    This doesn’t mean that I will stop at that. I will instead go amongst the people, in the streets, in their communities, have open discussions with them, and hopefully come up with a true dialogue that will achieve true understanding.

    Much work is needed to be done, on how everyone (including me) can have an open and critical mind.

    Goodbye internet comment space. (well, not really, I might pop-up on other issues, depending on how I feel about myself exercising my freedom of expression).

  • Anonymous

    So,it is okay for you  a picture with your mom or wife facing a huge pinus  and ready to be swallowed by them!? Is this still art for you!?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4P25VIZLTRLFVJT4AXVX7QL2WM City Boy

    in the end it turns out mideo cruz was successful – he got what he deserved – so let’s put it to rest and by talking and debating for a hundred years would only mean to glorify his artworks.

    im wondering why are we so passionate about the wrong things – why don’t we drop the issue – read the bible all the more and go to our churches.

    • Anonymous

      you call a failure’s work a success??? it’s how you look at it anyways… there is no bad publicity, if you like!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IHSZXWUIACYJC7CX3TBCSCYRNQ joe

      uu nga naman. mideo try mo naman dun sa bust ni dr. jose rizal hehehehehe.

  • Anonymous

    “At the UP forum, the CCP chair Emily Abrera, said the board was “practically bullied” into closing down the exhibit. The threats and safety concerns for the artists and employees were their reasons for shutting down the show, she explained.”

    ‘yong tinamaan ng matalim na mensahe noong ARTWORK ay hindi matangap ang masakit na katotohanan inihahatid nito. kaya gumamit na ng mga ATTACK DOGS para i-bully ang CCP.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HJXUQZQ3DUBGCONCL4GOHXFH74 Rogelio

    The artists have the right to express themselves and other people have also that right. Respect should be given to everybody. Why insist on putting on display those so called art in a government venue, they should put it in a private place if they are sensitive to other peoples complaint, anyway we look at it, putting a wooden penis in a religious image does not make it an art, either the maker wants to be talked about or to be known to sell his so called trash art. Definitely the so called artist is in a wrong place and time. Try to do it with other religion and you’ll surely regret it, instantly.

  • tong_its

    and you call us a democracy? subjecting our freedoms to censorship because there are groups with strong voices and an unequivocal obsession with establishment? heave a sigh of relief to vandalism because it gave good reason to trash this exhibit and was done for a “good purpose?” it’s all right to trample on someone’s right to expression because it was “found to be obscene and offensive?” was anyone forced to view the exhibit? why, no. it was your choice to view it! 
    the danger to public opinion is it can be manipulated to suit the purpose of any strong establishment. moralist groups like the church have just been given fresh fodder to fuel divisiveness and hate.
    you think you are going for the good of society? think again.

    • http://twitter.com/iduniq iduniq

      You can express your ideas about the beliefs of a majority of the people.  Just don’t masquerade your idea as art and display it in a public art institution.  Display it somewhere else like in your toilet.

    • Anonymous

      there is no ABSOLUTE FREEDOM! if there was, i’d be long gone to mars!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UNH5BQSJ6VAPCPKLLEKZWZWXB4 Nilo Abaya

    Emily Abrera, Raul Sunico, Karen Flores, naloko kayo ni Mideo. Mga
    konyo kasi kayo, hindi nyo alam napaka-ordinaryong ginagawa yan ng mga
    tumatae sa kubeta sa public toilets habang nakaupo sa inidoro. Ngayon
    ay nasa CCP na. Naging art na, freedom of expression pa. Talaga naman.
    Bwa ha ha ha!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IAQLUSKZ7TH4C2FHOD7SLQONQ4 bong

    This CCP Chair Cabrera is so arrogant.   They cannot accept their mistakes!  

    No wonder they don’t get sympathy from the public!

  • Anonymous

    Sarado na sa publiko ang controversial na exhibit
    ni Mideo Cruz sa CCP. Hindi dapat manghinayang si Cruz kasi plano daw ni DOTC
    Secretary Mar Roxas and wife Korina Sanchez na bilhin ang ilan sa kanyang
    artworks.

    • http://twitter.com/iduniq iduniq

      Gagawing hanger daw ung may ash tray.

  • http://twitter.com/JohnTWTarrobal John TWT

    We have been bastardizing Jesus almost everyday in the way we live our lives.
    This bludgeoning of the artist is so hypocritical.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian-Henry-Lacson/1399484890 Christian Henry Lacson

       ikaw lang siguro brod, wag mo kmi idamay kung marumi pamumuhay mo.

    • Anonymous

      Its like a child who disobeying his father everyday… but even so… that child surely wont like his father’s picture being treated like that…

      Again show some respect….

  • http://twitter.com/Joe_The_Kano Joe Kano

     Well, the “artist” is sure getting lots of cheap attention, which was obviously the goal.
    At least it was entertaining to see the likes of Imelda preaching about obscenity, oblivious to the irony, of course.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UNH5BQSJ6VAPCPKLLEKZWZWXB4 Nilo Abaya

    Ang pinagdedebatehan natin ay images na ginagawa ng marami habang tumatae sa kubeta. Tignan nyo sa mga barangay toilets mga tarugo mga puke ngayon nasa CCP na, art na, freedom of expression pa. Tawag dyan Kubeta Art.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001852991728 Cant Escape

    City boy, Cruz has not gotten what he deserves. He should be punished, as well as others who tolerated this. We should teach them a lesson, to learn how to show restraint and respect.

    If they will go unpunished but popular, that will be a reward for them. 

  • Anonymous

    mga art exhibit ni Cruz, gustong gusto daw ni Mar
    and Korina yung krus na may condom. Super cute daw!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CUPIC5UVVFYLWQ6NDVPP2IRIKU Bulakbuk Prattipati

    Artists? What artists? Is that exhibit even worthy of being called art? Mga gunggong!!! You are in a country where Catholic faith is extremely professed, so do you really think by exhibiting  Christ with wooden vandalism you are actually creating a masterpiece? Any religious icon whether symbolic or not should be left alone! There are over a trillion ideas that you can get for inspiration on your art work, are you saying that you have ran out of ideas and instead toyed with Religious figures? You are no artists! Masunog sana kayo mga Gunggong!!!

    • Anonymous

      So I imagine you are probably Catholic. But you don’t sound like one. Or is this what they taught you in Church?

      • Anonymous

        never a catholic! and you are a protestant? i suppose?

      • Anonymous

        “never a catholic! and you are a protestant? i suppose? ”

        ====> Does it matter if you are a Catholic or Protestant? Are we not all Christians worshiping the same God? Why are you making it as a Protestant against Catholic and vice versa? If you commit a wrong it doesn’t matter who is pointing it out to you. Of course if it’s a Protestant doing the pointing masisira ang pride mo, but pride is one of the 7 deadly sins.

      • Anonymous

        DIDNT YOU CALL IT FIRST? you butt in then start attacking the poor catholics… that is probably what your faith teaches!

      • Anonymous

        Pointing out double-standard and hyprocrisy is attacking the situation, not all of the Catholics per se. Read my posts s-l-o-w-l-y. You are also free to point out the wrongs in any religion, as long as its done in a rational and logical manner, not this hysteria. After all, no religion run by man is perfect. But if you cannot accept criticism, how can you improve?

      • Anonymous

        it’s you who need to improve not me! you’re condoning the so called work of an artist which is offensive to others…which is the issue in this thread! by the way they’ve close down the exhibit!

        i dont intend to question any sect coz i respect them, but if attacked i’d fire back two folds!

      • Anonymous

        “i dont intend to question any sect coz i respect them, but if attacked i’d fire back two folds!”

        ===> So which sect is that? Probably not Christian, because Christians are told by Jesus Himself to turn the other cheek and to forgive. If you can forgive the pedophile priests, why can you not forgive Mideo Cruz and pray for him?

      • Anonymous

        the name is there for a reason! it’s funny you associate your opinions to YOUR bible! but i doubt you put it in practice…what is the human nature? to defend yourself when put to danger!

      • Anonymous

        “the name is there for a reason! it’s funny you associate your opinions
        to YOUR bible! but i doubt you put it in practice…what is the human
        nature? to defend himself when put to danger!”

        ===> So what you’re saying is you will disregard and disobey the teaching of Jesus just because you say so? Pwede pala ganun, selective obedience. Doesn’t your Bible also teach about turning the other cheek and forgiving? Or was it edited out in the Catholic version? Unless hindi ka Katoliko? Ano ka, buddhist?

        “to defend himself when put to danger!””
        ===> Ikaw naman patawa, Mideo Cruz artwork is putting the mighty 2000 year old RCC in danger? Natawa talaga ako. Comedian ka din ano?

      • Anonymous

        i’ve said so many times, im not a catholic!!!!

      • Anonymous

        “i’ve said so many times, im not a catholic!!!!”

        ====> So you are………… And in which case….why do you seem more angry than some of the Catholics here? Baka naman may MPD ka? That’s Multiple Personality Disorder.

      • Anonymous

        YOU’RE A POINTLESS IDIOT! no point discussing with you! because i respect them and i want it back in return.had they done this against the muslims i’d be more upset!

      • Anonymous

        Pare bakit naman instead of a civil discussion you’d prefer to hurl insults. You have so much hate and bitterness in you. I will pray for you.

      • Anonymous

        pray for your own… i dont need prayers from you! why dont you take care of your salvation first? you think you’re good enough that you say prayers for others? wrong faith!

      • Anonymous

        “i dont need prayers from you!”
        ===> Sure you do. Everyone needs help from God one way or another. I will ask God to cleanse you of all your hurt and anger. That way you will have peace.

        “why dont you take care of your salvation first”
        ===> I am saved by the grace and mercy of God, and not by my own works. So salvation is assured.

        “you think you’re good enough that you say prayers for others?”
        ===> God teaches us to pray for each other.

        “wrong faith!”
        ===> Right faith!  :)

      • Anonymous

        WOW! are you the next messiah from the far east? pray for your own brothers in your faith!
        I TOTALLY SEE YOUR DUMBNESS AND ARROGANCE NOW! STAY AWAY FROM ME SATAN!

      • Anonymous

        So you called me: Idiot, dumb, arrogant, Satan….
        But it’s okay, I will still pray for you, because I forgive you.

      • Anonymous

        make fun of my statements/views! thank you… your faith has done you well…do i need to spell it out to you?
        glad they close the exhibit! and bet you there’d be individuals who will be charged!

      • Anonymous

        your bible isnt going to work if you use it against me…coz i can twist it like you guys to to others!

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian-Henry-Lacson/1399484890 Christian Henry Lacson

         its not putting it in danger guys, but clearly it was a desecration of what others believe as sacred. cant you be more sensitive of others feelings and beliefs? why cant you respect other peoples beliefs? im not catholic yet i got offended by that work that for others “pass” as “art”. respect each other’s belief guyst.

      • Anonymous

        you’re making me laugh…like what i said im entertained by you! you’ve gone too far out! so you like the art i take it! and you want to trample other belief different to yours…

      • Anonymous

        As I;ve said it days ago, no, I do not like the art of Mideo Cruz. I would not hang it in my living room even if it’s given to me free. That said…..
        And how did you come to the conclusion that I am trampling on the belief of others?
        Can you be more specific?

      • Anonymous

        by questioning and attacking other’s beliefs and trying to make a point that yours is superior! why can’t you accept other’s faith? they are not forcing you to believe in them by any means! are you jealous  being a minority?

      • Anonymous

        “by questioning other’s beliefs”
        ===> Where did I say Catholic teaching are false? Copy and paste it here (                                   )

        “trying to make a point that yours is superior!”
        ===> I did not even say what I believe in. Much less that my belief is superior? Where did I claim my belief is superior? Copy and paste here (                                   )

        “are you jealous  being a minority?”
        Does God look at majority or minority? Jesus says God does not look at the outside appearance of the person, but rather what is in his heart. Hindi naman ito eleksyon na dapat mas marami bumoto sa iyo.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XBVS4VGHFHJOEYXPJXBOA3ADGE mata

        you sound like the mideo cruz and the so called “artists”.

      • Anonymous

        I was in my childhood days, that’s why I keep on saying that we must respect everyone no matter what their religious stand… I’m also frustrated with what was/is going on with the catholic but I preferred to read bible than to judge anyone(though i’m not perfect and occasionally done the same mistake)… I end up being born again christian… by the way its not solely about our religious affiliation but because of our being human… Jesus himself said pray for your enemy, for revenge is God’s duty….. And so I ask this artist a favor to do their art in a nicer way but I don’t hate the artist himself… The missing link with all of us… is LOVE… if we can’t then at very least RESPECT….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UNH5BQSJ6VAPCPKLLEKZWZWXB4 Nilo Abaya

    KUBETA ART,  yan lang naman ang simpleng tawag dyan. Matagal ng ginagawa yan habang tumatae sa mga kubeta. Ngayon nasa CCP na, freedom of expression pa.

  • Anonymous

    there are things that Artist should not duel into.. no matter how deep your reasons are to arrange such exhibits. kung hindi kayo sensitive sa religion, sa country. well go ahead at your own peril..ksi it’s as simple as insulting your own Mother and father. democracy?  di pa ba masaya ang pinoy.?? try communist! and Fundamentalist countries.. try nyo lang .. heheheheh dito lang kayo nakaka ganoon .. gagohin nyo pa ang democracia.!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UNH5BQSJ6VAPCPKLLEKZWZWXB4 Nilo Abaya

    Ang original nyan ay nasa mga kubeta sa barangay toilet. KUBETA ART

  • Anonymous

    1. are we in the philippines or are we in pakistan or saudi arabia or some muslim dominant country where the murderous blasphemy law is imposed. 
    2. those so called “desecrated images” are not even the correct likeness of Christ when He was here on earth so how can the ccp board be charged as anti-christs?

    • Anonymous

      how does he look like in your belief? are you trying to reinvent the wheel?

  • Anonymous

     . . . a society starting to believe that human freedom is absolute.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G6VD7O35VDIQJX4FEXGOIEWOL4 Jack

    he yan artistically done kundi autistically done ..Dapat dyan kay mideo Cruz i salvage tapos yung ari isaksak sa bunganga nya ..

    • Anonymous

      “he yan artistically done kundi autistically done ..Dapat dyan kay mideo
      Cruz i salvage tapos yung ari isaksak sa bunganga nya ..”

      ====> Yan na nga, na-offend ka sa ginawa ni Mideo Cruz, but you advocate committing murder. Very Catholic of you.

  • Anonymous

    They say The Lord is offended by this art.. I don’t think so! What the LORD condemns is the worshiping of idols… this figures and pictures does not represent GOD, only those fools believe otherwise! I support this artist and I condemned hypocrites!!! 

    • Anonymous

      and what does your faith say about god? you’re only good in attacking the catholic faith! come up with your own, dont twist other’s for there would never be originality in your faith!

    • Anonymous

      I wonder why Catholics don’t display the same outrage and wrath when some of their Church officials does pedophilia while the Vatican tries to cover it up by simply transferring these offending people to another parish to prey on more children?

      • Anonymous

        ARE YOU EVEN LOOKING AT THE STARS???? YOU’RE TOO FAR OUT OF CONTEXT! YOU KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE IS? this is only for my entertainment!

      • Anonymous

        “ARE YOU EVEN LOOKING AT THE STARS???? YOU’RE TOO FAR OUT OF CONTEXT! YOU
        KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE IS? this is only for my entertainment!”

        ===> I am simply pointing out the double-standard and hypocrisy. Putting a phallus on a Catholic Jesus image is offensive to Catholics, while engaging in pedophilia destroys a child’s future. Which one is worse? And which one is receiving more condemnation from Catholics? Making a comparison like this puts things in perspective. Of course you need a certain amount of intelligence to understand.

        And as for looking at the stars === No I do not engage in astrology. You shouldn’t too. haha. j/k.

  • Anonymous

    Ano ito, Catholic inquisition? Burn him at the stake? Nasa 21st century na tayo, pero meron pa rin naiiwan.

    • Anonymous

      you mentioned catholic inquisition….so it’s happening, according to your own words…

  • Anonymous

    It is all about respect on our religion that we are talking about here and it is just right to condemn in strongest possible way the action of those irresponsible artists who showcased and supported the exhibit in CCP. Freedom of expressions comes with responsibility and sound judgement which very unfortunately these artists does not seemed to understand.

    • Anonymous

      you got it right bro! RESPECT OTHERS, IF YOU WANT OTHERS TO RESPECT YOU IN RETURN!

  • Anonymous

    There is a German saying ” Respektieren aber nitch akzeptieren”. Those who are against this should follow this saying. They should respect the work of the artist but not accept the way he made it! With the outrageous/over-reaction of a lot of parties is ridiculous! Dont tell me that just because it doesnt follow yr principles it can’t be painted? If we do that, its CENSORSHIP! There is a meaning to his works. So just respect but not accept should be the reaction of the Church & other politicians!
     

    • Anonymous

      “They should respect the work of the artist but not accept the way he made it!”

      ====> It takes a certain amount of intellectual and emotional maturity to be able to do that. Unfortunately, we don’t have it. Acting hysterical is more “fun”.

  • http://twitter.com/PerryUtanis Perry Utanis

    Edcel Lagman if you will defend them as their lawyer thru your intimidation, and you recommend not to resign then she will have to answer all the charges in court if they file a case.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6LAIJKBA2MRXQPYKYMRXFYN6JQ Kyouraku Shunsui

    was it really an art? it’s nowhere near the definition of art which is “The application of skill to the production of the beautiful by imitation or design, or an occupation in which skill is so employed, as in painting and sculpture”. i could understand if someone would try destroy/burn their work(vandalism vs vandalism) but to inflict physical harm on the artists themselves is another matter. 

    i guess it’s better to shutdown the show before someone gets hurt in either party.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian-Henry-Lacson/1399484890 Christian Henry Lacson

    simple lang ang solusyon d2 eh, bakit ba kc mga larawan pa na sagrado sa isang sekta ang ginawang tema sa “art” na yan? ke mali o tama mang imahe ng “cristo” nila yan, wala na taung pakialam dun dahil paniniwala nila yan at dapat nating iagalang ang paniniwala nila. kung ikaw ay buddhista halimbawa o muslim man, matutuwa ka kaya kung lagyan ng t1t3 ang larawan ni Budda o ni Propeta Mohammed at idisplay pa sa iasng pambansang sentro ng Arts? malamang hinde. respeto lang sa kapwa para walang sakitan. tandaan naten, mga tao nagpapatayan dahil sa relihiyon, kaya di dapat ginagawang katatawanan ang mga bagay na mag kaugnayan sa relihiyon, ke “art” man yan o anupaman.

    • Anonymous

      beautifully said!

  • Anonymous

    It shows that Catholicism practices idolatry. If one’s faith to the Almighty transcends everything here on earth, then for just a mere artistic expression they feel threatened? Does the Bible allow us to revere material things as religious?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian-Henry-Lacson/1399484890 Christian Henry Lacson

      expression of art has its limits, just like freedom has its limits and responsibilities incorporated in it. try mo kaya mag lgay ng t1t3 sa larawan ng pangulo ng pilipinas at idsplay mo sa CCP, then defend yourself by calling it an art. lets see where will it lead you.

  • Anonymous

    It just shows that Catholicism indeed practices idolatry which is contrary to the Bible. If one’s faith transcends over everything in this earth, then this expression of art, no matter what it be shouldn’t budge our beliefs.

    • Anonymous

      what are you going to do about it if that’s the case… that’s their faith! you want to impose your belief in them?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian-Henry-Lacson/1399484890 Christian Henry Lacson

    sa mga “artist” na gya ni mideo, i try nio kaya sa larawan nmn ng presidente ng pilipinas kau maglagay ng t1te at idsplay nio sa CCP. tignan naten kung anu magiging resulta. 

    • Anonymous

      “i try nio kaya sa larawan nmn ng presidente ng pilipinas kau maglagay ng t1te at idsplay nio sa CCP.”

      ====> Magagalit si PNOY. Sasabihin ni PNOY, “That is not accurate, mine is bigger!”.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian-Henry-Lacson/1399484890 Christian Henry Lacson

        try mo pre, instead of making lousy reactions in replace of him.

      • Anonymous

        Weird naman Ingles mo, hirap intindihin.

      • Anonymous

        is that all you can come up with?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian-Henry-Lacson/1399484890 Christian Henry Lacson

         try mo pre, tignan naten ang galing mo. galing niong magsabi na “art” lang ang paglalagay ng “t1te” sa larawan ng isang ginagalang na tao. try mo, and i wud believe that it cud be justified as “art”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian-Henry-Lacson/1399484890 Christian Henry Lacson

    simple lang ang solusyon d2 eh, bakit ba kc mga larawan pa na
    sagrado sa isang sekta ang ginawang tema sa “art” na yan? ke mali o tama
    mang imahe ng “cristo” nila yan, wala na taung pakialam dun dahil
    paniniwala nila yan at dapat nating iagalang ang paniniwala nila. kung
    ikaw ay buddhista halimbawa o muslim man, matutuwa ka kaya kung lagyan
    ng t1t3 ang larawan ni Budda o ni Propeta Mohammed at idisplay pa sa
    iasng pambansang sentro ng Arts? malamang hinde. respeto lang sa kapwa
    para walang sakitan. tandaan naten, mga tao nagpapatayan dahil sa
    relihiyon, kaya di dapat ginagawang katatawanan ang mga bagay na mag
    kaugnayan sa relihiyon, ke “art” man yan o anupaman.
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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian-Henry-Lacson/1399484890 Christian Henry Lacson

    expression of art has its limits, just like freedom has its limits and responsibilities incorporated in it. try nio kaya mag lgay ng t1t3 sa larawan ng pangulo ng pilipinas at idsplay nio sa CCP, then defend yourself by calling it an “art”. lets see where will it lead you. maxado nio lang binibigyan ng religious impact ang sitwasyon, tanggalin nio ang religious aspect and take Jesus as who he is. Jesus is a great person and revolusionist. in my opinion, he deserves more respect than putting a penis in whatever image placed as “him”. kaung mga nagmamarunong jan, try nio kaya sa larawan ni pangulong noynoy kau maglagay ng t1t3 at idisplay nio sa CCP. lalo na ikaw etana, tignan naten kung anu mangyayari. respeto lang po mga kapatid. its all about respect.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IO2LZ4AWJRIRXO7DXWPGTOL73A Atilla

    guys, stop feeding the trolls.

  • Anonymous

    Flores said the exhibits or art works being put on display at the CCP
    are planned one year ahead and a lot of brainstorming and hard work are
    put into it. – wow.. brainstorming.. daw o.. i bet she failed in people’s feelings secession.

  • Anonymous

    I was about to say thank you, but having read CCP chair Emily Abrera statements of non repentance make me doubly outraged.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian-Henry-Lacson/1399484890 Christian Henry Lacson

     if we would only be more respectful and more considerate to what others might feel about our actions. this is not a case of offending a certain sect, but a case of being inconsiderate of your fellow filipinos. catholics are filipinos too,. though im not catholic, i encourage others to be more considerate of our fellowmen whatever religion they may be. this is not a case of what religion is right, it is a case of an inconsiderate “artwork” clearly blasphemising a particular sect. lucky for the INC’s, it is not MANALO’s picture, or for the BUDDHIST’s for it is not Buddha’s picture that has been displayed with a d1ck in the forehead. to think that CCP is a national display. be considerate of your fellowmen please.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian-Henry-Lacson/1399484890 Christian Henry Lacson

    do you think ANG DATING DAAN MEMBERS would take it lightly if it was bro. eli soriano’s picture? hay naku kc, di muna pag isipan maigi yang “art” na pinagsasabi na yan. andami nmang ibang pwedeng maging idea, bakit un pang nakakaoffend? mga tao nagpapatayan dahil sa relihiyon kaya wag nio pong gawing katatawanan ung paniniwala ng iba. pagdating sa mga ganyang bagay, be more sensitive please.

  • Anonymous

    ” “The action of the CCP is discouraging and even disturbing as it displays submission to unfair demands it initially ruled out,” said the group that includes singers Cynthia Alexander and Bobby Balingit.”

    Your group you call “artists” are FOOLS to think that what you think and do should be tolerated by right thinking people!! You live in a surreal, unnatural, ‘absolute-free-thinking-free expressing’ gobbledygook you accept as reality!!! You defile other people’s beliefs and rights and you just want them to keep quiet??? You CANNOT be ENCOURAGED to persist… You deserve to be DISTURBED!!! So, suffer the consequences of the actions and thoughts you are just so dumb not to realize in the real world!!! Buti nga sa inyo!!!

  • Jojo Villanueva

    kahit di pa kamukha yun. it is symbolic. you know what it represents. so its the same thing. don’t give us that argument na hindi naman kamukha ni Christ yun. that is too shallow. it doesn’t matter. we all know what that symbolizes.

    and to those who call that thing art. that is not art. that is laziness. lack of creativity. at papansin.

    he should have placed the face of his father instead. tutal binabastos naman nya ala ala na tatay nya sa pamamagitan ng kabaklaan nya.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian-Henry-Lacson/1399484890 Christian Henry Lacson

      nice one, maganda ilagay ni mideo, picture ng buong pamilya nia at lagyan ng t1te sa mukha bawat isa. tutal ganun ang tingin nisa sa art. wlang respeto. im sure walang magagalit kung ganun ginawa nia.

    • Anonymous

      I agree with you!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YYETETMUYRU3VDBMF3A6E52P6Y Just_Thinking_Loud!

    I agree with the the Artist to be expressive of thier Artworks but I totally Disagree for such artwork to be seen at CCP… artist should be responsible. we have young minds to mold, young hearts to mold and how will we be able to explain to these young minds and give a good example if our very foundation of faith is being tarnished that way?

  • Anonymous

    sa mga pro sa art exhibits na ito,try to display these types of art in your house.para rin kayong mga bold star,nagpapakita ng hubad na katawan for the sake of arts daw when in fact its all for money..

  • Anonymous

    Pupunta kaba sa simbahan nang iba at sirain ang mga gamit nila at pagsasabihan mo nang mali yang diyos nyo dapat sa diyos ko lang kayu maniniwala? hindi mo ata gagawin yan. Pupunta kaba sa mga sa chocolate shop para pagbawalan uminum nang chocolate ang mga tao dahil magiging manyakis sila. kung hindi mo yun ginagawa. bakit binastos ng mga “religious” group ang art exhibit nang grupo nang mga artist? Na sa tingin ko wala namang alam tung mga “religious” group sa ibig sabihin nang art ng mga artist. Marami mga paniniwala na hindi ka sangayun, pero bale wala sa iyo, wala kng violent reaction, pwde ka maging kritiko pero hindi mo pwde pagbawalan at saktan ang mga artist na hindi ka sangayun sa art na gawa nila u sinoman. lalo na hindi mo pwdeng sirain ang bagay na pagaari nang  iba sa situation na ito ai iyung art nang artist. 

    May karapatan si mr. cruz na ipahayag ang kanyang damdamin sa nangyayari sa lipunan sa pamamagitan nang art niya. At ang mga tao ay may karapatan magcriticize sa gawa ni mr. cruz. Pero walang karapatan kahit sino man na  manakit, manakot, pumatay at pagbawala ang isang tao o grupo gaya nang yari sa ccp. kahit sino ka man, ma “religious” kapa. 

    • Anonymous

      gaya ng sabi ko bilhin mo lahat yung art ni medyo cruz tapos i-display mo sa labas ng bahay mo..tapos pag tinanong ka ng mga anak mo explain mo mabuti na its all for art sake ganun lang kasimple iyon.

      • Anonymous

        bakit ko bibilhin yun? purkit panig ako sa mga pagpapalabas ng  art  ni mr. cruz bibilhin ko na. Kung ganyan ka magdecision kung bumili kanang artwork e wala na akong magagawa. Ang opinion ko lang sa decision making process mo ai, nakakalukot.

      • Jojo Villanueva

        lol. bumalik ka na lang sa lungga mo. wag mo ikalat kabaklaan mo dito.

      • Anonymous

        maraming bakla na pari. alam mu ba yun? hindi mo alam nakikinig ka sa isang pari namahilig sa mga minorde edad.

      • Anonymous

        if you patronize one thing you’ll do ur best to own it.among the peers here you are the one who keep on bragging of above subject arts (kuno) so why not keep one or two and have your neighbors take a glimpse on it and see how they will react to what you’ve called arts?this is not an order just a request!

      • Anonymous

        nagpatronize sa art ni mr. cruz? ituro mo sa akin saan sa mga sinabi ko na nagpatronize ako sa art mr. cruz, para magkalaman naman ang sinasabi mo. 

        Nagmamayabang ba ako sa subject na art? hindi ako nagmamayabang, ako ai nagpahayag lang nang opinion ukol sa issue. tulad mo din na nagpapahayag nang opinion tungkol sa issue.  Nagkataon lang na iba ang ating pananaw sa issue na ito. 

        At kung meron akung nabili na artwork hindi ko ilabas sa bahay at ipagyayabang sa kapitbahay. Kung yan ang gawain mo e wala akong magawa diyan.Kung ayaw mo sa art ni mr. cruz. e magcriticize ka. Yan naman karapatan mo. Pwde mong sabihin na hindi art yung ginawa ni cruz. Opinion mo yun. walang pipigil sa iyu kung yun opinion mo.

      • Anonymous

        so ur not patronising his art (kuno), what do you call urself then who keeps on depending and calling its an art?if i defend something it means that i am for it ibig sabihin nun gusto mo siya.di ko sinabing ipagyabang mo ang sabi ko i-display mo sa labas ng bahay mo gaya ng grotto na usually ay nasa labas ng bahay.

        when i said bragging,iyon ay sa mga opinion mo rito na akala mo ikaw lang nakakaalam ng art.you call it art fine that was your opinion,picture mo kaya gawan ng ganun lagyan ng t3t3?oops i’m sure gustong-gusto mo kasi malapit na sa bunganga mo!baka pag kiki ilagay ay magagalit ka pa,alam mo na…

      • Anonymous

        pagsinabi ko na art yan, pinapatronize ko na? alam mo ba ang ibig sabihin sa patronize? kaya nga tayu did2 nagpalabas nang opinion para malaman natin ang opinion nang iba. Pwde mong sabihin na hindi art yung tingin ko na art, ngayun nagpapakita ba yan nang pagpatronize. 

        Pagsinabi kong art yan at wala ka alam harr. yan ang ugaling patronizing, feeling niya alam niya lahat. Sinabi ko para sa akin art yun, at kung hindi art tingin mo diyan e karapatan mo yun. Hindi kita pinilit na dapat art din sayu yun. 

        Sinabi ko ba ako lang may alam sa art did2 sa thread, at wala kayung alam sa art lahat ? May opinion ako sa art. at alam ko maraming masmagaling pa sa akin. Ang paglagay nang opinion dito, ibig nang sabihin na nagmamayabang ako? 

        kung kukuha ka nang picture nang ibang tao tapos lagyan mo nang tete sa noo na walang pahintulot sa may ari nang picture. at kinalat mo sa ibang tao, alam mo pwde mangyari. pwde kang kasuhan nang defamation at makulong ka. e try mo gawaan mo ng picture yung pinakamortal mong kaaway na tao sigurado kulong ang labas sayu. siguro agree ka diyan. 

        Ngayun sino bang picture ginamit ni m. cruz, sino mang nagmamay-ari nang picture na ginamit ni m. cruz pwde siya magfile nangcase, kung kilala mo siya sabihan mo namagfile siya nang kaso laban kang m. cruz.

      • Anonymous

        sige bigyan mo ako ng picture mo at lagyan ko ng tete sa tapat ng bunganga mo at saka mo ako kasuhan,eto email add ko harrier07@hotmail.com.send mo picture mo ha lalagyan ko ng maraming ti-ti alang alang sa iyo total art naman ang tawag mo dun.kasuhan mo ako ha at isa lang ang babanggitin ko sa judge..”its an art”!hehehe o ayan malinaw na malinaw ikaw nagsabi wala kang pahintulot nyan pero kusa kong lalagyan ng tete sa tapat ng bunganga mo tapos kasuhan mo ako ha.send mo na now na!

      • http://www.facebook.com/jeruelcanales Jeruel Canales

        What is this, a kindergarten playground? Read what you have just dared yourself to do and see how pathetic that is. Grow up. This is my real name. I dont hide like what you are doing under a harrier07 at hotmail . com.

        Now here’s a dare for grownups: Do what you intend to do but please write your name as the author of the artwork. Just like that mediocre artist at the CCP. You can browse my profile in fb.

        I dont like the art displayed at the CCP. But I am a libertarian. I am of the opinion that if I dont like a speech, an art, a tv program, etc, etc, I will not use my lobbying power, my clout, my wealth, anything to have that banned, the director of the institute, office, etc, fired, go to court and on and on like an immature kid. The best recourse should be negative review, severe criticism, in the extreme boycott. But to curtail the freedom of expression just because others are offended? I dont think so. Like you, I find the art offensive, but I strongly disagree that we should permit the anger of the majority to deny this person his constitutional right.

      • Anonymous

        @ jeruel canales

        “But to curtail the freedom of expression just because others are offended? I dont think so. Like you, I find the art offensive, but I strongly disagree that we should permit the anger of the majority to deny this person his constitutional right.”

        you haven’t heard about ARTICLE 201 of the phil penal code OBVIOUSLY!

      • Anonymous

        @jeruel canales

        You mean constitutional rights to inflict insult to other persons… how about us who are insulted by their acts…we cannot exercise our constitutional right????

      • Anonymous

        that was a reply to the quotation, from jeruel canales…read it again…

      • Anonymous

        Oppps…sorry bro…i don’t see the colon above….

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CZP7LGATAU6NV5ZKS7NRHRZCEE Josh

        The Constitution will always hold greater weight over the Revised Phil Penal Code. In fact, Article 201 of the Revised flies in the face of freedom of speech as guaranteed by the Constitution. It’s an old, archaic law often used to censor anti-Catholic sentiments and does not have a in a democracy.

        Then again, Filipinos have a poor understanding of democracy to begin with.

      • Anonymous

        @josh

        what is the penal code for then?
        isn’t it a good tool to use when your belief is harassed? AS WHAT YOU ARE CLAIMING AGAINST CATHOLICS?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000090902668 Pat Bello

        Your right It is sad to say that our country is hopeless for the people has minimal understanding about democracy. Because of this, now I understand why are we in this dire situation right now for our culture is really that backward. We hide under the name of our religion but still practice acts that are considered as despicable in the modern world. The Philippines will continually be left behind for the we are still stuck in the spanish era mentallity.

      • Anonymous

        maybe u r in d kindergarden playground.kindly check my post in reply to boyzkulot comments.each and evryone has freedom of expression but it doesn’t mean that we could say and do what we want,let’s consider other’s people right too.kung hindi ka Christian at isa kang Muslim what if Prophet Mohd (PBUH) was the one shown in the exhibit instead of the image of Jesus Christ?baka ngayon pa lang kinatay na siya.have u heared about the cartoon thing about Prophet Mohd?tell me now if what you’ve called constitutional right of this artist should not be deny?

      • Anonymous

        nakakatawa ka harr. kristiyano ka ba? sa sinasabi mo at gagawin mo ai nagpapatunay na hindi ka sumusunod sa principyo nang iyong simbahan. hindi ako kristiyano pero alam ko anong magandang asal nang mga kristiyano at hindi kasali yan pinapakita mo.

      • Anonymous

        Pareng Boyz Kulot…matanong ko lang… kung hindi ka kristiano…eh ano ka muslim, budist, ano ka..

      • Anonymous

        wla akong diyos. 

      • Anonymous

        bilib sa sarili eto. walang diyos eh.

      • Anonymous

        lagyan mo nang laman ang statement mo. kasi walang kwenta ang isang salita na walang rason.

      • Anonymous

        damihan mo kasi para naman enjoy…huwag mong tipirin…yan tuloy.. napapagalitan ka…ni boyzkulot….hehehe…

      • Anonymous

        ah.. kaya pala…hindi mo kami maintindihan na maghihinakit kung mayrong manglalait sa pinapaniwalaan naming Dios kasi wala ka palang Dios…at lahat ng makikita mo ay just an art…and natural lang…pero human ka di ba… so pag human ka may pakiramdam ka.. pwera lang kung dead human kana..pero sa palagay ko buhay na human ka at may pakiramdam…at marunong rumirespito sa kapwa…tanong ko lang ito kung meron ka nito kung wala na…eh…good luck na lang sa’yo…

      • Anonymous

        pare ‘musta ‘cncya iniwan ko na lang kayo basta kahapon, naaya kasi ako ni pare! anyway nadaan lang ako but this will be last post about that idiot medio – pinasisikat lang natin yan ika nga he’s just being blasphemous (to the catholics, of course) to be famous. tamo sikat na sya, pati si kulot matatas ng managalog yung ai na lang he he, pero tamo next time aayusin na ni Lord yan at di na sya kulot magpaliwanag at tatawgin na syang— boy CoT – sige pare! next time 

      • Anonymous

        Ayos lang pre…hahaha nag iinjoy lang ako dito dahil puro kulot na yong nababasa ko…hahaha…mahilig kasi itong igan natin sa jejemon kaya yan ang style nya…art din yan…hahaha…sakit na tyan ko pre sa kakatawa…oh..sige pre ingatan mo si pare baka hahambalusin ka ni kumare….hahaha…good nyt pre…

    • Jojo Villanueva

      walang alam? Sistine Chapel ceiling. Ano makikita mo dun? Walang alam sa art ang simbahan? Peta ano tawag mo dun?

      yung bata mo na si Mideo ang walang alam sa art. Noob.

      • Anonymous

        Walang alam sa art nang nagexhibit sa ccp. parang ang art lang ata alam mo e puro related sa religion mo. Mayroon din art sa labas nang religion mo jo.

      • Jojo Villanueva

        Eh bobo pala ito. sinabi mo walang alam na art ang simbahan kaya binigyan kita ng sample. Isipin mo nga  ang sagot mo. Artist din ako. at alam ko ang pagkakaiba ng Art saka Katamaran.

      • Anonymous

        basahin mo ulit yung post ko. wala akong sinabi na walang alam na art ang simbahan jo. ikaw lang ang nagsabi noon. opinion mo yan na sa tingin mo hindi yun art. may karapatan ka diyan. Paano mo nalaman na walang kahulugan sa ibang tao ang art ni mr. cruz? I’m sure hindi mo yun alam. dahil hindi mo kilala ang lahat nang tao na nakatingin sa art ni mr. cruz jo.

        gusto mong magyabang ka na artist ka. maykarapatan ka diyan jo. At kung lahat nang tao na hindi sang ayun sayo ai bobo, ai bilib na talaga ako sa katalinuhan mo. Isa kang hinyo sa paningin mo, yan may karapatan ka din.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000090902668 Pat Bello

      finally somebody with a brain and not stuck to any backward thinking…

  • Anonymous

    I admit there are artists who are able to create thought provoking beautiful pieces. Unfortunately they’re too few and far in between. The rest should just get real jobs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian-Henry-Lacson/1399484890 Christian Henry Lacson

    @boyskulot, tama na di dapat saktan ung artist pero tama lang na i criticize at parusahan ang nagkakamali. bakit kaya hindi ka bumili nung dispaly sa ccp na gawa ni mr. cruz? tapos ipakita mo sa mga anak mo o sinumang menor de edad na kapamilya mo saka mo i-explain na “art” un. sana sa susunod na gumawa ng “art” si MR. cruz, larawan nalang ng pamilya ni boyzkulot at ni mideo at saka lagyan ng t1te sa mukha. tutal parehas kau ng pananaw sa art cgurado magkakaintindihan kau.

  • Jojo Villanueva

    Buhusan nyo ng ta3 yan si Mideo tapos sabihin nyo for art’s sake. 

    Matuwa kaya sya?

    May tinatawag na totoong Art at “Art lang kuno”

  • warfreak

    Idolatry triumphs again in this country !!! 

    Worship God in spirit and in truth, not the idols made by men.

  • Anonymous

    RESPECT! the issue is respect, the right to express yourself never is and never will be absolute, kung minura kita in public pwede mo ako ireklamo at pwede ako makulong, ganyan din ang art na sinasabi mo ‘the fact is may nilabag ka batas at kung may nagreklamo sa iyo ay ma-ari ka makulong, ART? o BLASPHEMY,,, bahala na korte sa iyo.

    • Anonymous

      ARTICLE 19of the UN Covenant on Civil and Political Rights twenty years experience the world over has shown that the public good is better served by all-encompassing debate, even in harsh and offensive terms. From this standpoint, there is no evidence that laws against blasphemy are indeed “necessary”, but plenty demonstrating the opposite. Indeed, lessons from human history should dictate opposition to any attempts to stifle offensive or blasphemous speeches and discoveries. Freedom of expression is an “empowerment” right: It allows people to demand other rights – the right to health, to food, to a clean environment, to religion, etc. Curtailing this right on the basis of the possible offensive or blasphemous nature of an expression creates too great a risk to all freedoms for human rights gains that remain to be appropriately defined and justified. Indeed, as international human rights courts have stressed, the right to freedom of expression is applicable not only to “information” or “ideas” that are favourably received or regarded as inoffensive or as a matter of indifference, but also to those that offend, shock or disturb the State or any sector of the population. Such are the demands of pluralism, tolerance and broadmindedness without which there is no ‘democratic society’

      • Anonymous

        @marionics

        here is the next paragraph of your ARTICLE 19 ICCPR…

        3. The exercise of the rights provided for in paragraph 2 of this
        article carries with it special duties and responsibilities. It may
        therefore be subject to certain restrictions, but these shall only be
        such as are provided by law and are necessary:

        (a) For respect of the rights or reputations of others;

        (b) For the protection of national security or of public order (ordre public), or of public health or morals.

        READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE, DONT CUT IT OFF!

        here’s the website ICCPR
        http://www2.ohchr.org/english/law/ccpr.htm

      • http://www.facebook.com/jeruelcanales Jeruel Canales

        Now please educate me on the fine point of the law just where we can nail this artist of poor taste?

      • Anonymous

        here’s the conclusion, don’t miss it-
        Blasphemy laws are the anti-thesis of human rights. At a normative level, they establish ahierarchy of beliefs that betrays the common understanding and intentions of the internationalhuman rights framework. Blasphemy laws are the Servants of Power and the means for religiouspersecution; they censor, they create a climate of fears, and they stifle artistic creativity, academicresearch, scholarship and freedom. They may also lead to imprisonment and death – thusviolating the most potent human rights of all – the right to mental and physical integrity, and theright to life.

  • Anonymous

    what if i also put the artist mom naked with penis in her butt all out to her mouth and call it art, would he not be offended… 

    • Anonymous

      if you can get a naked picture of his mom then do it. 
      paano naman kaya kung nagimagine lang ako ng mukha o tao, kathang isip ko lang at dri-nowing ko ng hubad,  tapos kamukha mo o ng nanay mo, e di ko naman kayo kilala, di ko pa kayo nakita sa buong buhay ko. mao-offend ka ba?  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian-Henry-Lacson/1399484890 Christian Henry Lacson

    hay naku eto n naman po ung mga galing sa pajero bishops na
    comentators.hahaha alam nio po wala na taung pakialam dun sinasamba man
    nila o hindi ung mga picture na un. ang issue eh binastos sila ng kapwa
    pilipino, wag nio na namang i raise d2 ang issue ng relihiyon dahil
    hindi yan matatapos. eto pag isipan nio sir, kung ung picture ba ng
    tatay mo, dinisplay sa “CCP” at nilagyan ng t1te sa mukha dahil un ang
    palagay ng artist na kapitbahay mo (halimbawa lang, for discussion
    purposes only), wouldnt you be offended? tingin mo may respeto na tao ang gumawa sau ng ganun?
    its all about respect really. yan ang virtue na napakahalaga sa bawat tao, na
    madalas nakakalimutang itanim ng maigi sa isipan ng mga bata.

  • Anonymous

    Freedom of Expression Applies Even to Blasphemers Says UN

    by

    The Global Journal

    July 29, 2011

    Anti-blasphemy laws and restrictions on criticism of
    governments are incompatible with free expression which in turn is
    essential for the protection of human rights. That was the decision on
    July 28th of a high-level UN advisory committee that monitors political
    and civil rights.

     The UN Human Rights Committee of the Geneva-based OHCHR (Office of
    the High Commissioner for Human Rights) called the report “an
    authoritative new commentary on one of the most challenged and sensitive
    topics in international human rights law – the extent to which the
    freedom of opinion and expression can be restricted by a State”.
    http://www.theglobaljournal.net/article/view/157/

    But of course that is the United Nations  – and this is the Philippines.

  • Anonymous

    An article in the online The Global  Journal dated July 29,2011 reports that the  UN Human Rights Committee of the Geneva-based
    OHCHR (Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights)  had indorsed a 
    report the gist of which is as follows: “Anti-blasphemy laws and
    restrictions on criticism of governments are incompatible with free expression
    which in turn is essential for the protection of human rights.” According to
    the article, the report to the UN human rights committee was made by a high
    level UN advisory committee monitoring political and civil rights. For the
    whole article, just go to http://www.theglobaljournal.net/article/view/157/

     

    We are out of tune with civilization.

     

     

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6XQ56F6GJZIXQM2RQXLU66XASQ caloyocoy

    hoy boyskulot,kulot ba ang utak mo,sige magjakol ka sa harap ng maraming tao,sabihin mo sa kanila na gusto mo lang ipahayag ang iyong damdamin.

  • Anonymous

    Gagawa ako ng sariling kulo pero mga mukha nila mideo cruz and karen flores ang gagawan ko ng istorya.Isasama ko na rin ang picture ng kanilang mga kamaganak.  Bababuyin ko rin at ilalagay ko rin sa CCP.  Mahilig din ako sa art pero yun ke mideo BASURA yun isama mo na rin si karen flores dun. PWE!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/jeruelcanales Jeruel Canales

      Immature.

  • Anonymous

    si lagman lagyan din ng malaking tete na maitim sa bibig at i-display sa CCP.

  • Anonymous

    Artists like this pervert can express himself inside his bathroom, not too many are obsessed on looking at phallus. Even the homosexuals would not appreciate a limp penis like that in his painting. Those who in their subconcious mind are fond of displaying or looking at male genetalia should insist on a “maharlika” which can be translated loosely as “big phallus”.

  • Anonymous

    Kung pagpugot ng ulo ng mga bata at pagputol ng ari ng mga bakla ang gagawan ng installation, sino kaya ang ma-offend? Expression should be tempered by responsibility, and the CCP, as an agency of the state, should be mindful of this. Why spend taxpayers money to display garbage like that

  • Anonymous

    Its a good thing FLores resigned. she is arrogant enough to side with chaos and stupidity. her artistic perspective should be investigated. mag-curator na lang siya ng democracy wall sa baclaran. bagay siya doon

  • Anonymous

    Mga igan…si boyzkulot at si Medio Cruz ay iisa…kaya kahit kulot kulot na yong reasoning nya humahataw pa rin…kahit ano ano na lang kahit lukot lukot na mangatwiran pa rin….pag bibigyan nyo na…peace…

  • Anonymous

    Mga Loko pala etong mga Artist na ito,..  Respeto naman dyan sa Relihiyon…. Sana yung Pamilya Arroyo na lang ang Pinagtitripan nyu sa Walang Kwentang Art Exhibit nyu kasi yun klaru malaki kasalanan nila sa mga Pilipino. hehee

  • Anonymous

    Maganda rin ang Trip nyung Art Exhibit sa CCP hehee …. Sana Nag Hubo’t Hubad na lang kayu mga Artist kayu sa Exhibit, Tiyak pasok yung sinasabing Freedom of Expression nyu hahaa Anung Klaseng Droga ang Tinira nyu, Lakas kasi ng Tama, nang Makabili rin ako. LOL

  • shane oy

    Dito natin makikita kung gaano ka insensitive ang mga tinatawag na artists na ito. Kung gaano ka walang halaga sa kanila ang respeto, hahamakin ang lahat para lang kunwari makaag express through art. Besides art ba yun?
    These people are so twisted that they forgot their social responsibility. Well for the sake of expression they wouldn’t care a bit about social responsibility. They claim it is their freedom but forgot the fact they are not the only member of the society. yeah call yourselves intellectuals and artists and freedom fighters but don’t forget the other side.
    Trying to push that their stand is valid, very well lapastangin nyo ang kapwa Filipino. I don’t care about your expression or whatever trashy expression you have but we have the right also to do everything we can to dump you – after all ito ang gusto nyo mag apakan tayo.

    • Anonymous

      Twested…as in Kulot o lukot lukot…hayyyy….they naver give up…ipag siksikan parin yong idea nilang balubaluktot…hahaha…

  • Anonymous

    Ang kapal ng mukha mo Emily Abrera, nakita mo na ang ginawa nyo, di ba yan ang gusto nyo mag kagulo gulo dahil sa  exhibit na iyan ngayon iiyak kayo ng foul.

  • Anonymous

    These so called artists, unrepentant and wanting more,  with an attitude of “f?ck you all, I want my sick art for everyone to see”,  well… why don’t you use your mother’s picture or image and you can do whatever you like. I’ll be the first one to check it out and see how your mother looks like with a pen1s sticking out on her head ! 

  • Anonymous

    What a nerve this Abrera has, as an officer of the so called CCP you have all the power to stop this exhibit from the beginning..You did not act and you allowed this art/graffitti to be displayed..To whoever person/agency you report to must not ask you to resign but should terminate you ASAP..POOR JUDGMENT, UNSATISFACTORY PERFORMANCE AND INSUBORDINATION..

    • Anonymous

      Yah your right…TERMINATION effective immediately is the right words not resign of this Emily Abrera and Company…immediate termination…sayang lang yong tax ko na pinapasahod sa mga yan…wala namang modo at wala RESPEPTO sa kapwa pilipino….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PPSHX2WQDC664ASRV6X2K5EVEQ Mind Lumayag

    tigas ng ulo ng mga animal na to. Nagagalit na ang mayorya nangangatwiran pa. Emily Abrera padalhan mo nga ako ng picture mo at lalagyan ko ng burat sa noo.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QA4HF4EE6QTPASK5XDL2W6TGVE Francis D

    bakit ba ang mga artists na ito {hindi lahat} parating naghahangad ng absolute freedom of expression? hindi naman sila responsable sa mga ginagawa nila? bkit sila nang bababoy ng iba tapos they call it art? eh pano kung gawa ako ng art galing sa mga lacerated body parts ni mideo cruz? dugo nya ang pangkulay sa background? maapreciate kaya ng mga artists yun? Whose gonna stop me? it’s my freedom of expression right? they should know where the line is drawn between on what’s right and what’s wrong. Abusado sila. these artists are cowards hiding in the name of freedom of expression. Ang totoo, gusto lang nilang makilala para gumawa ng exhibits na pagkakaperahan. In the end, it all boils down to money. If they want to continue this kind of thing, keep it to themselves, don’t display them in public for children to see..  

    • Jerry Kent Abad

      hi francis d. as the saying goes, your right ends where my right begins. you have the right to expression so long as you don’t step on any of my rights, i.e., my right to live. Artistic Expression, whether of body parts or anti-religious mechanisms, is still expression. there’s a big difference between expressing how you feel with wood and paint, and killing a person to achieve the same. that’s where you cross the border. we should be able to extend our limits without trampling on anyone else’s rights. in this case, the artists didn’t cross anyone or anything. If they crossed your principles and beliefs, that’s your problem because nothing in our constitution says that what you think is more important than others.

      • Anonymous

        @Jerry kent abad…

        “”in this case, the artists didn’t cross anyone or anything. If they
        crossed your principles and beliefs, that’s your problem because nothing
        in our constitution says that what you think is more important than
        others””

        Yah… your right…it is our problem…so we… that feel insulted in their work…have the right also to reciprocate in whatever means to let them know that they already cross beyond our border of their so called right of expression…and that’s our right also of Expression…if you don’t agree with that..then… that’s your problem also…we just expressing our right of expression…and you know what… whatever you think about this artistic adventurism of these so called artist…are nothing important to us…we win… they loose….peace

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-David/100000923192051 Michael David

    “Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device. ” ~ ACTS 17:29

    “The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire:  thou shalt not desire
    the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest
    thou be snared therein:  for it is an abomination to the LORD thy God.” ~ DEUTERONOMY 7:25

    – Mas malala pang ang utos ng Dios sa Biblia tungkol sa mga idolo (diosdiosan) dahil DAPAT SUNUGIN. Hindi naman totoong dios ang rebulto.

    “Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men’s hands.   They have mouths, but they speak not:  eyes have they, but
    they see not:   They have ears, but they hear not: 
    noses have they, but they smell not:  They have
    hands, but they handle not:  feet have they, but they walk not:  neither speak
    they through their throat.” ~ PSALMS 115:4-7

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D2D3W6FJSVPMZVU6P6SGTEWGPA Leo

      you’re confusing.. dont copy lines from the bible.. speak your own line.. bible is just written by another man… not everything about it is good and true.. some are nonsense. of course there are also some that are true and makes sense

    • Anonymous

      And then you believe also the works of men’s hand…how can you depend that…

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1292354647 Alejandro Ferraris

      @eyeforaneye12345:disqus  Michael…,you are right! qouting the passages of the Holy Bible…, but did you know about the passage of our Law? once you offended the other persons by the awful insults.. or acts… we have the laws to justified what is lawful! 

      i would like also to quote passages in the New testaments…, even food you eat…, the instructions is.., if somebody offered you some food to eat it…, even it was offered to the idols.., you may eat it with out questions.. not to offend the conscience of the eater but careful to the conscience of others you may offended!

      even some of the appostles entered into the pagans place of worship..,where the people who worshiped false god! and pretends of worshiping with them…, bcoz he was hoping by doing such thing.., He could bring some to the TRUTH! on believing The Savior and LORD JESUS CHRIST! to be saved!

      they didn’t condemed or used malicious acts to offend them? of what they were believing for!

      about the awful acts of pieces of  garbage that was exhibited… in CCP…, was the works of the very sick mind! possed by the evil spirit! he tries to portay his ideology in a very sick and offensive manner!

      His work concluded…, HAVE NO CREDIT in ART!
      THEY WERE only IDEOLOGIES OF ANOTHER DECEPTIONS AND PORTRAYS ANOTHER  FALSE RELIGION! and ATTACTS to the PARTICULAR GROUPS of PEACE LOVING PEOPLE.

      the ONE who did such awful things…, he is compared.., just like  a  greesed man possed by the evil spirit. sorting his garbage pieces and foods in the dirty bins.., and making it to exhibitionism of himself.  his (own SEXUAL ORGAN)…. before in the descents society!
      !
      WOE TO HIM.. , who  are using the name of God…, in blasphemous manners or in vain…!

      “REPENT FROM YOUR SINS! AND BE SAVED!  JESUS CHRIST THE LORD IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE EVERLASTING LIFE! NO ONE CAN COME TO THE FATHER… BUT ONLY TROUGH HIM!”

      • Anonymous

        Then how can we come to Christ if what he said in John 6:44 will be the basis ?
        JOHN 6:44
         No man can come to me,  except the Father which hath sent me draw him:  and I will raise him up at the last day. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000090902668 Pat Bello

    nakakatawa talaga mga kapawa kong katoliko. sabi nila maka diyos sila at mga kristiyano
    pero puro mura at galit naman ang laman ng kanilang puso at madali
    silang ma-offend katulad ng mga romanong nagpapatay kay cristo. kaya 
    nga wala ng pag-asa ang pinas dahil sa kulturang ganito.

  • Josephine Acosta-Pasricha

    The fact that CCP allowed the Kulo exhibit proves that there is no censorship. For censorship is done before, not after. But art, specially in public space, is contextual. What is obscene in Manila may not be obscene in New York. The Miller Test on Obscenity has to be applied.



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