Archbishop Cruz says Palace behind survey

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Retired Archbishop Oscar Cruz. INQUIRER FILE PHOTO

MANILA, Philippines—Some bishops saw a “political motive” behind a recent Social Weather Stations survey that found a sharp decline in the percentage of Catholics going to church.

Retired Archbishop Oscar Cruz pointed to Malacañang as the “culprit.”

Cruz, a former president of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines, said the survey was meant to “undermine” the Church and that Malacañang was behind it.

“The Catholic Church in the country must be a big pain in the neck to the present administration… It has therefore become imperative to undermine the Catholic Church—such as the supposed survey result of Catholics becoming non-Catholics,” Cruz said.

“After all, Malacañang is decided on passing the divorce bill and the ‘mixed marriage bill’—and the Catholic Church will once more surely speak and act against them,” he added.

Cruz said the Aquino administration wanted to undermine the Church because it was trying to mobilize its flock to vote against candidates who supported the controversial reproductive health (RH) law.

“The problem of the administration is that even after the passage of the RH [law], there is still an effect, a Catholic vote [against it]. The administration does not like this,” Cruz said.

Other bishops question motive

Basilan Bishop Martin Jumoad also questioned the motive of the survey.

“In the first place, I question the survey. Who are the people behind the survey? And why are they trying to pin down the Catholic Church? What is their motive?” Jumoad said in an interview with Church-run Radio Veritas.

Jumoad, who has been a bishop of Isabela, Basilan province, since November 2001, said he did not see a decline in the number of Catholic worshipers on Sundays.

“Here in Basilan, we are a minority but we are very strong. In fact, the churches here in Basilan are always full whenever we have our Sunday Masses,” he said.

“So, I don’t see here in Basilan the results of their survey. More or less, there are around 100,000 [Catholics in Basilan) because we are just 27 percent of the total [population] of 400,000,” he added.

Sorsogon Bishop Arturo Bastes said that instead of decreasing, attendance in Sunday Masses in his diocese had gone up.

“I do not believe in that [survey] because the number of people going to Mass is going up. Last Holy Week, we had so many people in church. So as far as Sorsogon is concerned, I don’t believe in that survey,” Bastes said.

“We have no reason to leave the Church. We have everything here so there is no reason to leave the Church. We give the right doctrine, right directions. So those who do not want to hear the word of God, they reject Christ, not the Catholic Church,” he said.

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  • cato_the_younger

    Talk about rumor mongering. Last week, the retired archbishop was spreading rumors about Kris. Now this. You’ve got to wonder if the good bishop is just missing the limelight. If the bishop has too much time in his hands, get a hobby or better yet, do volunteer work.

    • txtman

      YES, WE CAN
      ONE CATHOLIC VOTE
      CHIN UP CATHOLICS
      HEP! HEP!
      HURRAYY!
      AMEN

      • quirinomayer

        Pansininmo Likes at Dislikes na nakukuhamo. Obvious na walang Catholic vote sa Inquirer di ba? Maliban sa mga napadpad dito na mga panatiko ni Padre Damaso, nag-iisip at intelehente ang mga readers ng Inquirer. Mga sunud-sunuran at mga mangmang na indio lang ang boboto naaayon sa utos ng mga prayle.

      • Stun Black

        may trabaho kasing disente yung mga panatiko ni Padre Damaso.

      • txtman

        SINO NAMAN ANG MAO MO?
        IM SURE IT IS NOT GOD
        DO I NEED TO SAY MORE?
        PITIFUL

      • txtman

        I DONT CARE ABOUT LIKES & DISLIKES
        BAKIT POPULARITY CONTEST BA ITO?
        AHAHAHA
        SINASABI KO LANG ANG TOTOO
        PITIFUL
        AHAHAHA

      • http://www.facebook.com/virgilio.hernandez.12 Virgilio Hernandez

        yes we really can

    • Mr Moonlight

      i cant help but wonder why this newspaper keep on patronizing this sick-in mind retired oscar cruz
      yes it is fair to say that hes a rumormonger
      did he forget one of the 10 Commandments of God:
      THOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS TO YOUR NEIGHBOR

  • Camillo

    These bishops really can’t take a hint.

    • txtman

      WOW, SURVEYOR NA PALA SI GARCI?
      DRY RUN PALA NG DAGDAG-BAWAS YUNG SURVEY NA YAN
      CAN YOU IMAGINE?
      HALOS WALANG NAKAHALATA SA DAGDAG-BAWAS RESULT?
      AMAZING!
      NOW WE KNOW KUNG BAKIT
      KASI NGA, INUUNA YUNG BUNGANGA NG MGA YELLOW DOGS
      BAGO ANG BRAIN
      AHAHAHAHA
      NAKAKATAWA
      NAUTO SILA
      PITIFUL
      AHAHAHAHA

  • Corrupt_Jerk

    For God’s sake Arch. Cruz your still messing around.. why don’t you just pray for all of us to have a better economy and honest politicians to be seated on our gov’t instead of criticizing. Do you still have a self-respect on yourself? Where is your spiritual and moral obligations to us ??? Please have a respect on you as a high priest of the Catholic church don’t allow your negative thoughts swallow your dedication in Christ words.

    • txtman

      FACTS OF THE FAKE SURVEY KONO
      972X 9.2% = 89 PERSON
      1200(ghost respondents) X 81% (catholic daw) = 972 person
      972(RC) x 1% (nonreligious RC daw) = 9.72 person
      9.72(nonreligious RC) x 57.3% (thinking of leaving minsan daw) = 4.86 person
      SO ALL IN ALL 9 PERSON LANG
      9 divided by 972 = 0.009 or 0.9%
      LESS THAN 1 %
      ANONG KLASENG STATISTICIAN YAN?
      CLASSIC DAGDAG-BAWAS
      ELECTION NA NGA
      AHAHAHAHA
      HELLO GARCI, IKAW BA YAN?
      PITIFUL
      AHAHAHAHA

      • txtman

        DRY RUN DAW NG DAGDAG-BAWAS
        YUNG FIGURE # 9 DINAGDAGAN NG FIGURE # 8
        PARA MAGING 89
        ELECTION NA NGA!
        PITIFUL
        AHAHAHA

      • txtman

        FIGURE 110 BINAWASAN NG FIGURE # 0
        KAYA 1 OUT OF 11
        CLASSIC DAGDAG-BAWAS
        ELECTION NA NGA
        AHAHAHA
        MANINIWALA KA PA BA SA SURVEY ORG NA ITO?
        PITIFUL
        AHAHAHAHA

      • nes911

        Crappy.

      • txtman

        TAMA KA
        CRAPPY NGA YANG SURVEY NA YAN
        AND THE SAD THING
        NAUTO KAYO
        AHAHAHA
        VERY FUNNY
        PITIFUL
        AHAHAHA

    • kulittwit

      Damaso, mag tingin tingin ka dyan mismo sa parokya mo. Higit na mas maraming katoliko ang hindi nagsisimba tuwing linggo. Naiirita sa pamumulitika ninyo!

      Pulitika na ang usapan sa mga radyo, tv, barbershop, parlor, parties, etc… pati ba sa simbahan pulitika pa rin???

    • txtman

      MEDIA CORRUPT
      MEDIA CORRUPT
      MEDIA CORRUPT
      WHAT A SHAME
      PWE
      PITIFUL

  • agaylaya

    The survey may be correct in saying there was a huge drop in the percentage of catholics attending mass “every week”. However, the priests and bishops may also be correct in saying that there seems to be an increase in the number of church goers. In 1990 there were approximately 60 million Filipinos and in 2013 there are 100 million. There may be a drop in percentages but we may be experiencing an increase in absolute terms. Note also that the news report did not reveal the percentage of Catholics going to church every other week, or every three weeks, etc. Note further that on a given Sunday mass those who attend mass every week, every other week, or every three weeks etc , will all be present. Thus, the number of church goers at any given Sunday mass may have actually increased but the percentage of people going to mass every week may have declined..

    • cato_the_younger

      That’s the most likely scientific answer. You’ve got to wonder whether things like this drive the opposition against RH – numbers game.

    • brunogiordano

      Basa lang ng BIBLE ang alam nila eh.

      Arithmetic?????

      Ano iyon?????

  • Simplify1

    tsismosong bishop, please stop your speculations and try to enjoy your retirement…. if you really miss working, why not spearhead an organization to look after the welfare of poor families who have so many mouths to feed. Your organization can be financed with catholic church monies… then maybe you don’t have to spend too much time in purgatory…

  • quirinomayer

    These Padre Damasos miss the point as always. They maintain that the results of the survey is not true and that Catholics are as loyal to the church as ever. Granting that their allegation could be borne by facts contrary to the results of the survey, of what good is that to the moral a Christian standing of the country in the world? It is even far worse because with Filipinos being unquestionably faithful to the Catholic Church, the country remains a quagmire of corruption, immorality and crime! These bunch of onion-skinned and paranoid clergy could not see that in as far as our reputation as a Christian country is concerned, the result of the survey is positive since the waning faithfulness to the church could serve as plausible explanation to our advance moral decay as a nation.

    I suggest to the Pulse Asia and the SWS to conduct a survey on who the people trust and love more – these obnoxious, quarrelsome and pseudo-Christian Catholic bishops or President Aquino. I am sure these Padre Damasos will not like the results either.

    • http://www.facebook.com/virgilio.hernandez.12 Virgilio Hernandez

      for sure the AQUINO-COJUANGCO win both sides . . . . in case yoou dont know
      mr quirinomayer they own both survey firms

      • Magna Badiee

        True, that!

  • al gero

    sila ang reason kung bkit tumatamlay ang mga katoliko sa Pilipinas, ang mga taong itoo!

  • Hey_Dudes

    Another cheeezmizz monsignor Cruz? Bakit hindi kana lang bumalik sa trabaho gosh…… you have so much free time in your hands which is why you believe every rumors coming your way? Kahapon lang meron child molester na nahuli sa city mo wala kang alam?

  • Joseph St John

    Why is the Church always meddle with gov’t affairs? It’s the reason why the Church is losing members. Is Archbishop Cruz angry and has a score to settle with the gov’t? The CBCP need to advice Monsignor Cruz to lie low.

    • superpilipinas

      If the Church does not meddle, Imelda will be the Prime Minister of the Philippines today. I guess you like that.

      The Church will always be against the government for as long as the government is wrong. It will side with the government when it is right.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        thats the reason they have lost control in the rest of the world because the people got smart and sick of them sticking their noses in government business look at what it got them they lost millions of members and more important to them they lost millions of dollars

      • lucidlynx

        Study your history. People power was not initiated by the church although the church was one of the players primarily in the person of Cardinal Sin. It was mainly the people who toppled Marcos, not the church.

      • jcsantos

        To add to your post: The catholic church SUPPORTED the Marcos regime for most of his 20 year rule. It was Cardinal Sin who INFLUENCED the people AND the church to join the EDSA rally against Marcos. If not for Cardinal Sin, the catholic church would be the one supporting Imelda as Prime Minister today!

    • Mr Moonlight

      excuse me sir, CBCP is now being run by a bunch of sickos
      the last 3 years i stop hearing mass whenever im here in the philippines
      they made me sick and i feel so ashamed of them
      whats going on here

      • txtman

        THEN DON’T GO BACK IN THE PHILIPPINES
        DYAN KA NA LANG
        SPEAKING OF SICKOS?
        DI BA KASAMA KA DYAN?
        PITIFUL

      • Mr Moonlight

        you are not just a pagan but a child of beeeesssstiality
        you know whats that mean to you
        Its the worst humilating insults
        but its the truth
        in short, because of your genetical make up of human and animal
        as a result, your mind s so f*ck up
        but stay strong, perhas one day you will be ok
        I just hope so
        but if not, i feel sorry for you
        ok ba?

      • $17531445

        And from the way you write, you think you are a Christian, or whatever is your religion, that your god is a loving god?

      • Crazy_horse101010

        is yours

      • $17531445

        Probably just like yours.

      • txtman

        IM NOT INSULTED
        COZ IT’S NOT TRUE
        DID YOU HAVE TIME TO LISTEN TO YOURSELF?
        NO?
        AHHHHHH! KAYA NAMAN PALA
        ISA KA NG MASBABOY SA BABOY HINDI MO PA ALAM
        AHAHAHAHA
        OINK! OINK!
        GETS MO
        HAAYYY! KAWAWA KA NAMAN!
        PITIFUL

      • Crazy_horse101010

        why dont you crawl back under your rock and leave the rest of us alone with your idiotic ranting who cares what you say sicko pitiful

      • txtman

        GIDIYAP! GIDIYAP!
        HOOO! CURLY.
        HOOO! CURLY.
        IM SURE YOU WILL SUFFER THE SAME FATE
        GIDIYAP! GIDIYAP!
        PITIFUL
        AHAHAHAHA

      • billy gunner

        Ur from d INC no doubt! Lol

      • http://www.facebook.com/virgilio.hernandez.12 Virgilio Hernandez

        who ?

      • Mr Moonlight

        theres just too many freaking pinoy idiots like YOU, crackhead!

      • billy gunner

        unfortunately your name alone says youre one of them crackheads! lol

      • Mr Moonlight

        yeah right, youre just one of those hampaslupang patay gutom na pinoy , you have nothing better to do in life? go and giveyour pather a nice blojob and keep the speerm in yor mouth then kiss your sister if you have one,,
        got that stopid jerk

      • billy gunner

        nice remark from someone who has naughty name. perhaps youre the one having those fantasies, right?

      • http://www.facebook.com/virgilio.hernandez.12 Virgilio Hernandez

        arent you ashame of the real sickos who run the government

      • txtman

        >>> INQUIRER & SWS DAGDAG-BAWAS MODUS???<
        .
        BAKIT TAHIMIK ANG INQUIRER SA SWS DAGDAG-BAWAS MODUS?
        NASUHULAN KAYA SILA?
        OR TALAGANG LAPDOG LANG ANG INQUIRER?
        WOW! DAGDAG-BAWAS CUDDLER NA RIN PALA ANG INQUIRER?
        NOW, ALAM NA NINYO KUNG KANINONG INTEREST PANIG ANG INQ?
        MUKHANG MEIMBRO NA SILA NG KKK?
        HYPOCRISY, ANO?
        AHAHAHAHA
        IBA NA TALAGA KUNG INFILTRATED NA NG MGA LEFTITS/ATHEISTS
        WHAT A SHAME
        KAWAWA NAMAN MGA TUNAY NA JOURNALISTS SA INQUIRER
        PITIFUL
        AHAHAHAHA

    • 12JEM

      CBCP is supporting Jack Enrile.

      • txtman

        WIN! WIN NA YAN!
        GO, ENRILE
        WIN NA YAN!
        HEP! HEP!
        HURRRAYYY!

      • jcsantos

        Your willingness to vote for a murderer and rapist only because CBCP tells you so speaks of how your “conscience” is dependent on those you deem higher than you.

      • txtman

        ENRILE KAMI
        AT SINO PAPANIWALAAN KO ABER
        IKAW?
        AHAHAHAHAHAHA
        SURE KA BA SA MGA BINTANG SA KANYA?
        PITIFUL

      • jcsantos

        With the older Enrile repeatedly flip-flopping his testimony on his “ambush” even until now? You’d still believe such a man?

      • Magna Badiee

        I do not think that is true, 12JEM. How can CBCP support Jack Enrile when he openly approves of the RH law? I suggest you double check your sources – I’m sure this is a misnomer!

  • superpilipinas

    He-he-he. Obvious naman na politically motivated.

    Takot sila sa Catholic Vote.

    If there is no concern for the Catholic Vote, this will not be in the news.

    And obviously, inquirer is to Aquino as Manila Bulletin was to Marcos. It has become the evil that it used to fight.

    “Fearless News and Balance Views” no more.

    • nes911

      Gaya gaya sa iglesia ni kristo.

  • brunogiordano

    “We have no reason to leave the Church. We have everything here so there is no reason to leave the Church. We give the right doctrine, right directions. So those who do not want to hear the word of God, they reject Christ, not the Catholic Church,” he said.

    Liar liar pants on fire!

    • catmanjohn

      I was an atheist once, but discovered life to be more interesting and fulfilling with the understanding that there was a greater force of Good, as Jesus Christ is proof, for now I find my interaction to His teachings thru the Protestant Faith.

      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_two_cents

        So basically you fell out of the pan into the fire. Good luck with that.

      • BatangSingapore

        mga protestant gumagawa ng sarili nilang bibliya. hindi na nahiya nangongopya pa.

      • catmanjohn

        Soon, you will see your shame.

      • http://www.facebook.com/virgilio.hernandez.12 Virgilio Hernandez

        use your real name as proof of your guts

      • jcsantos

        Catholic authorities beg to disagree: since you’re NOT catholic, you cannot be saved (aka you’ll still go to hell). I’ve had enough encounters like that with several Catholic priests.

        It’s nice to make a Jesus a role model due to his positive acts acceptable to most people of all religions. A person like him would live a good life serving others yet gaining the respect of all kinds of people. The catholic church on the other hand…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003594872047 Juan Cuevas

    On the contrary Archbishop Cruz, it is the catholic church that is giving us catholics a pain in the neck. Since the time of Rizal priest continues to act obnoxiously like they are god and even put their hands through corruption (mitsubishop incident). They do not even release the names of the pedophile priest in the country and they protect them instead of helping the victims of abuse.

    Then you will deny the survey that there are fewer catholics attending the mass? Put your feet on the ground so you will know what is happening, fix the problem inside the church leadership (CBCP) 1st before you contemplate and criticize the government.

    • superpilipinas

      He-he-he. Speak for yourself.

      You are not a Catholic. Catholics do not accuse any church for the mistakes of the few.

      Has someone called you a rapist or a murderer because some Filipinos raped or murdered?

      • Crazy_horse101010

        the brainwashed ones dont are you god that you can say who is a catholic or not you are a poor excuse of a a catholic because all you do is insult people and pretend that you are a morality cop whats your badge number

      • jcsantos

        It is already a widely-known fact that church hierarchy, especially the Vatican, has invested much time, manpower and resources of up to billions of dollars worth in protecting these priests instead of pushing more efforts for the poor. Why you turn a blind eye to this, I don’t know.

  • Stun Black

    Pakawala yang survey ng mga Premature Edyaculators na Pro-RH.

  • superpilipinas

    “After all, Malacañang is decided on passing the divorce bill and the ‘mixed marriage bill’—and the Catholic Church will once more surely speak and act against them,” he added.

    Exactly, they will use these controversial bills in order to keep the FOI bill away. They are so afraid of the FOI bill due to their corruption and incompetence! It is very obvious.

    Just imagine the corruption at PCSO….in the hundreds of millions being pocketed by the directors. Those could have been used for the poor who are suffering.

    Just imagine the loses at BoC…in the tens of billions being lost due the incompetence of the chief. That huge money could have been used to uplift the poor.

    • Crazy_horse101010

      the only reason the catholics are against the divoce bill is the millions of dollar they would lose from annulments. if the vatican wasnt being supported by the poor so they could have the highest standard of living in the world there wouldnt be a peep about birth conrtol or divorce. how is it that there is only one rich catholic country in the world and it doesnt make or grow anything it survives on peters pence

      • superpilipinas

        that is what you want to believe…..and that is funny…he-he-he..how can one earn from a thing that is rarely allowed? if they wanted to earn, then they could have made annulment very easy.

        there is only one rich country in the world?…let me tell you about some countries you do not know…
        Austria
        France
        Italy
        Belgium
        I only cited countries which are predominantly Catholic.

        I haven’t listed those where Catholic is the largest religion yet.

      • ye854bela729

        hay man,have you been to Europe lately we live here what th hell ru talking about Rich and predominantly Catholic? Maybe but not lately and yes not rich enough right nowlong time ago, outside their Catholic church, line up ng lilimos carrying baby, dat is Italy,n ok na sa France, same sex marriage dear catholiko,huh. basta’t predominantly catholic countires mostly plenty of poor people,coz madaming maganak kc nga hipocritoes sila pero now legal na rin sa kanila ang abortion. sO pls spare me your predominantly mo na catholico ok.wake up panatiko pulpol hehehe pahiya pls b sure if u write something dat u do really sure u know?

  • brunogiordano

    “Sorsogon Bishop Arturo Bastes said that instead of decreasing, attendance in Sunday Masses in his diocese had gone up.”

    TAMA!!!!!!!

    GONE UP IN SMOKE!!!!

    • txtman

      MEDIA CORRUPT
      MEDIA CORRUPT
      MEDIA CORRUPT
      MEDIA LAPDOGS
      WHAT A SHAME
      PWE
      PITIFUL

    • Mr Moonlight

      you got it right bro

  • Mr Moonlight

    nagpapansin ang hendot na retired bishop cruz na eto
    ayaw na talaga tumigil
    najeta kasi sa blojob kaya buang na
    im a catholic but i cant accept a freaking bishop, retired or not, making duch bizarre behavior
    Go fcuk yoursel ret. bishop cruz

    • http://www.facebook.com/virgilio.hernandez.12 Virgilio Hernandez

      you are not a catholic . . . as what your name reveals

      • superpilipinas

        he-he-he. not only his name but his words.

        it’s funny how some people still want to be identified as Catholic. I don’t blame them, there is nothing better than being known as a Catholic. The problem is, those who are in denial don’t have the discipline and faith that Catholics have.

      • Mr Moonlight

        hey crackhead, by being a catholic does that make you a fine christian, GET THE FCUK OUT OF HERE, you imbecile

      • Mr Moonlight

        heres one more thing, go and see your father and do him a real nice blojob, hows that sounds to you? nice ha? thats just the beginning
        dont start with me c *cksucker

      • Mr Moonlight

        who the fcuk are you? get the f cuk out of here you freaking imbecile

  • Mr Moonlight

    this c*cksucking retired bishop cruz is losing his mind big time!
    he has no solid evidence to prove his allegation and therefore he is speculating
    could it be because hes been in need of seeeeeemen for his mouth
    hes a disgrace to the church

  • KappaPhiPhi

    yeah, he has a point. who and why spend millions on a survey against the church when everybody already know about it?

    • superpilipinas

      he-he-he…..why make an article or put in the headlines when everybody already know about it? it is a contradiction.

      the answer is obvious…..it is Election time….and they are afraid of the huge Catholic Vote.

      • ye854bela729

        Really HUGE CATHOLIC VOTES solid ba? is there such ? Tutoo? di mo ba nakikita paubos na kayo hello! Wake up been trying to do it but nothing like the INC, AND BORN AGAIN, and women’s group but not the so called CATHOLIC VOTES ok

  • marlo concepcion

    cruz looks like ian mckellen, magneto. and he’s a villain. a do it himself, conquer all good guy sana pero epal kaya villain. sabay sila ni prof x. but instead of being meek and humble. he wanted to be the almightly epaloid. so yan, sha nga un. ipako sa magnet yang mokong na yan.

    • txtman

      MEDIA CORRUPT
      MEDIA CORRUPT
      MEDIA CORRUPT
      MEDIA LAPDOGS
      WHAT A SHAME
      PWE
      PITIFUL

  • Maldi2

    Hoy may bagong tsismis, kaya pala tinitira ni Panot ang Catholic Church gamit ang SWS ay sa grand plan ng mga taga malakanyang na isulong na din “same-sex-marriage” next year!

    Ayayaaayyy..at ng magkagayon ay magka-pagpakasal na din si Panot sa kanyang tunay TL na isang macho….. bwahahaha!

  • catmanjohn

    Archbishop Cruz… you have no one to blame except for the backward debilitating policies that keep the masses in poverty, ignorance, and fear of guilt. The reality is that you had your time, especially under Gloria Arroyo to prove your worth, and you have failed miserably. The Nation needs progress, a progressive corrupt free government, where education and infrastructure will be key to withstanding the enormous challenges and hurdles Mother Nature has in store for us. It is no longer about the rich vs poor, us vs them, we are all in the same boat and everyone must be allowed to do their part or we shall sink collectively.

    • BatangSingapore

      halatado na kita.

      pati katalinuhan ng filipino hinahamak mo. kamo ang sanhi ng kahirapan ay dahil kay Cory at Abnoy. simula ng umupo sila lalong naghirap mga filipino. ibibintang mo pa sa simbahan hahahhaha.

    • ye854bela729

      Well said bravo stupid oldman pls rest in Peace we r tire to see your wringed face anyway you did not prove anything anyway just back off hajhajha n pray for yourself na maliktas ka

  • Adrian Espiritu

    ishop Cruz, Bishop Bastes, PNOY does not need to undermine the Church anymore. YYou and your ilk are the ones who undermine it with your meddlesome ways. Why don’t you commission your own survey in your own backyard and see what happens.

  • teekaye2

    Blame your own clergy dont bury your head in the sand and dont meddle in politics

  • bgcorg

    Sometimes when you say the truth, expose what’s wrong, rebuke immoral practices, the guns of the ungodly or those who make their lifestyle, convenience and selfish interest their own god, gets trained on you. That is why in this mid-term elections concerned Catholics should choose into office candidates who value life in any of its stages from conception to natural death, the rightful place of marriage and the family in a stable society in accordance with the Natural Law, the correct interpretation of the “separation of Church and State” despite the surveys and the popularity of Pnoy. There is a Catholic Vote and “Team Buhay” will make it to Congress! Make the right choices! Spread the word.

  • okabato

    Sunday churchgoers have not waned as far as Santo Domingo where I go every sunday is concerned. They say mass there every hour starting at 5am up to 7pm. People just come and go to meet their sunday obligation as catholics. I can estimate that the church is full 75% every mass so there’s no truth that the faithful are losing interest in their religion. The survey could have been sponsored by the INC I’m just saying..

    • ye854bela729

      Hoy kamoteng may ulalo kayo lang katoliko mahilig at kulang sa pansin! Bakit di nyo solve ang problema ng mga pare nyong RAPIST AT MAHILIG SA PERA, AT HUMINGIN NG CARS SA PRES GMA.OK N DO NOT WRITE IF YOU ARE NOT SURE INUTIL NA katolikong liko na pabagsak na kc puro fake n not sincere member of your church sa name lang! By the way STUPID KA! DAMASO

  • NAGMAMARUNONG

    ANG TIGULANG! OBISPO GI-ANGO-ANGO.

  • Ramil Abalon

    si cruz yan ang nag papahirap sa simbahan…eh bakit ayaw na lang tumakabong senador para mapakinangan niya ang ang linya nyan…bakit pa kaya siya pumasok sa pagkapari ha ha ha hay naku……..

    • BatangSingapore

      nagpapahirap daw sa simabahan hahahhahaha. alam mo ba sinasabi mo bugoy?
      simbahan naghihirap? baka naman ikaw ang naghihirap.

  • Crazy_horse101010

    who is behind the surveys they put out like the one this week that says they have 6 million votes against rh supporters

  • Neo Bourne

    Ito ang obispo na walang ibang inatupag kundi maghagilap ng tsismis…

  • Neo Bourne

    Akala siguro ng obispo na ito na kaya maraming nag sisimba sa church ay nanniniwala sa kanyang bugok na pag iisip..hoi na obispo ka..! Itinuring ka pa man din na alagad ng diyos, tapos ang aatupagin mo ay ang mga pamamaratang at tsismis…nakakahiya ka sa simbahan!

    • BatangSingapore

      bugok ikaw ang nakakahiya.
      walang kwenta sinabi mo kundi tumira lang ng personalidad na kahit kelan hinding hindi mo maabot tanga.

  • pinoyako888

    …hindi na naman nakakain ng “turon” ang matandang hukluban kaya pulos ngaw-ngaw na naman he he he

  • GlenMJacob

    Why can’t this Bishops accept criticism ? why can’t they accept the truth that there are catholics who have left the church. This is not only true in the Philippines but specially in Europe – the pews are empty !. Indeed in the Philippines the majority of catholics are the so called “Social Catholics” – those who were born catholic, and still identify themselves as catholics, but rarely go to Mass except possibly Christmas or Easter or Good Friday (not in the church but goes with the parade of Idols) and do not have very solid religious convictions.” Is this the catholics that the Bishops wants in the Philipipines ?. CBCP please follow Pope Francis examples…

  • mad_as_Hamlet

    * * * * *
    “Archbishop Cruz says Palace behind survey”

    I say the Devil is behind Archbishop Cruz.

  • UrHONOR

    KALALAKING tao, e, napaka-tsismoso! O baka naman kaya lalakwe? Nito lang si Kris ang tsinitsismis, ngayon naman yong kapatid ni Kris. BAKA naman kaya nag-aabang lamang ng brand new na SUV yan tulad ni Pueblos.

    Isa pa yong si Jumaod, naghahanap ng MOTIVE sa survey. Ang survey basically ay ginagawa para magkaroon ng data base of information. Anong kailangan pang ‘kwistiyunin’ ang motibo? KUNG ang lumabas sa survey ay favorable sa TNL na mga nakasayang-puti’t helmet, natitiyak ko na hindi na ‘kwi-kwistiyunin’ pa ang motibo ng survey. NAAAAAPAKA-takot-na-takot masaling ang mga TNL dahil napaka-super-sensitive na parang mga dumalagang manok na naghahanap ng pugad. Ganyan talaga ang MAY SUGAT…..kapag nadantian mo ang sugat, maghihihiyaw sa sakit ang TNL na may sugat.

    Yong survey na ginagawa na regular na halos buwan-buwan sa mga pulitikero, hindi ba ‘kwi-kwistiyunin’ ang motibo? Hanggang sa padasal-dasal lang ang kakayahan at karanasan ng mga TNL na mga nakasayang puti na yan, e, kung bakit nakikikalkal sa gawain ng iba, e, hindi naman sila pinakikialamanan sa pagdadasal at pagmimisa nila.

    SIguro lalo nang magtititili ang mga TNL na yan kung magpapa-survey tungkol sa kasuotan nilang pang Robin Hood at pang King Arthur pa!

  • UrHONOR

    KUNG gagawa ng survey tungkol sa kung anong simbahan ang nagugustuhan ng karamihan at lumabas na kulelat ang RCCh, palagay ko magkakaroon na naman ng ALL-OUT WAR ang mga naka-helmet! Pero kung babandera ang RCCh, maniwala ka, puputok at titimbog ng malaking-malaki ang mga pitsu ng mga TNL na yan.

    Pero kilo por kilo, malayong-malayo ang RCCh sa INK at El Shadey sa larangan ng management at promotions. Magaling humawak ng tao ang naturang mga samahan at hindi sila namimili ng mga taong de campanilla sa samahan nila….di tulad ng RCCh na kapag wala ka, wala ka rin. Pero kapag MERON ka, allelujah, ipapaskel pa ang pangalan mo sa mga bulletin boards ng simabahan at magkakaroon pa ng special announcements during the masses tungkol sa BIG FISH na nabingwit nila. At kung ang hatag ay malaking-malaki, say millions, wala ng katapusan ang pagpapasinaya sa pangalan at katauhan ng donor. May pa pray-over-pray-over pa yan tulad ng ginawa ng mga bisyaps kay gloria arroyo na nakakulong ngayon!

  • Mar

    Wake up Bishops! if you happen to pass Commonwealth Ave., notice that INC is building 2 new churches just besides the Catholic ones and boy they make the RC church look so kawawa, baka mag over the bakod na ang mga church goers niyo sa ginagawa niyong pakikialam sa politika.

  • billy gunner

    Malacanan rigging surveys is a very serious cause for concern. Very sad indeed.

    • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_two_cents

      Just because some parasite bishop claims it, does not make it true. Open your mind.

      • billy gunner

        i have a very open mind (and obviously you dont). in the get-go, the survey is highly suspect. why would somebody author a survey like that? you see, surveys are made to prove something to the public. but why would it try to prove something in the first place? two things: it’s either a non-catholic hates catholic doctrines (but i’m pretty sure nobody from other denominations would dare sponsor such a matter for publication in a news paper of general circualtion) or somebody who tries to demolish the church’s credibility.

        just days ago, someone mentioned about a catholic vote, and all of a sudden this kind of survey surfaced. i find it simply odd.

        or maybe you can offer me another valid point why the survey was done?

      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_two_cents

        A survey is about results, not the motives of the one commissioning it. The ones being interviewed are asked a question and they provide a response. No one tells them who ordered the survey or what their motives are or what response they would prefer.

        ‘Why’ is not the issue – the results are. If you can’t work that out, it’s you who has the closed mind.

      • BatangSingapore

        may pa english english ka pa bobo ka naman hahahhahaha.
        bugok ikaw ba na survey ka na kahit minsan.
        may result ka pa nalalaman eh niloloko mo lang sarili mo hahahhahahha.

      • http://www.facebook.com/virgilio.hernandez.12 Virgilio Hernandez

        alam mo rin pala yun

      • blowcoldblowhot

        IN THE Central American Republic of Santa Banana, public opinion polls are routinely conducted to determine how candidates for political office rank, ostensibly based on the preferences of the voters. But the way the surveys are conducted is pretty much like the system used by the most popular photographic studio in the country, the Santa
        Banana Portraiture & Repair Specialists.

        The studio has a sign that reads:
        “Photos the way you look, $100. Photos the way you think you look — $500. Photos the way you want to look — $1,000. Incidentally, “$” stands for “Saging,” the country’s official currency.

        The electoral surveys in Santa Banana are also made-to-order: Actual results, results for the benefit of the media, and results to impress the Consumisyon on Elections, the country’s official electoral body.

        I found the public opinion polls of Santa Banana very intriguing. So, I decided to take a trip to Santa Banana to check it out for myself.

        You see, back in the wild and wooly Philippine media days, before President Ferdinand Marcos decided to regulate the operation and content of media (for “greater uniformity,” according to the Malacañang information office), the streetwise TV and radio network operators were experts at “influencing” the viewership and listenership surveys which determined the ratings.

        For the benefit of those unfamiliar with the “ratings game,” this
        refers to the process of determining which radio or TV network has the most number of listeners or viewers and which programs are the most popular. The information is presented as “ratings.” These guide advertisers and their agencies in their choice of programs and the allocation of advertising budgets.

        Up to the present, the “ratings game” is being played by the networks
        with the ferocity of a game of ice hockey. When GMA Network, ABS-CBN and TV5 put out press releases in the dailies on which of them has the “highest ratings,” the information is not intended for the average readers but for the advertisers and agencies.

        At any rate, back in the old days, whenever research personnel went to the provinces to conduct the viewership and listenership surveys, all kinds of tactics were employed by some networks to rig the results. But the tactics were relatively benign back then.

        One way was for a network to launch a promotion (offering big prizes) during the period of the survey. Expectedly, the network enjoyed a significant increase in viewership or listenership — artificial, of course, but an increase, anyway, which showed in terms of higher ratings.

        Expectedly, there were rumors of field interviewers being paid off and of research findings being altered. But I don’t recall anyone ever proving anything.

        Advertisers and ad agencies also conducted their own provincial surveys. In such a case, the SOP was for the radio or TV station managers to meet the client or agency representatives at the airport (it was a race to get to the reps first) and to “take care” of them during their entire stay in town.

        That meant, driving them through neighborhoods where virtually every household was tuned in to a particular station (previously arranged, of course) and then treating them to drinks and “entertainment for the boys,” if you know what I mean.

        You can imagine what the reports to the home office looked like.

        But I’ve been away from Manila too long to know how viewership and listenership surveys are conducted these days.

        So, I wouldn’t want to speculate on their credibility. Besides advertisers and agency folk are too jaded to fall for the old tactics.

        Anyway, I really meant that as a backgrounder on my inquiry into the way the public opinion polls in Santa Banana are conducted.

        The current campaign in Santa Banana is for a midterm election, with the senatorial positions being the most important. Because of the present political environment, this senatorial contest is considered “a preview” of the next presidential elections. In other words, the “team” that has the most number of winners in its senatorial slate will most likely have a say on
        who the next president will be.

        Note that I use the term “team” instead of “political
        party,” because there are really no political parties in Santa Banana. If
        politicians in the Philippines used to be known as Liberals or Nacionalistas, Santa Banana politicians are all Oportunistas. The two most dominant teams are Team Balut and Team Unano. Most of the winning senatorial candidates are expected to belong to the two teams.

        In Santa Banana, there are two major research companies that traditionally conduct voter surveys: Weather-Weather Research Company and Plus-and-Minus Survey Specialists.

        From my inquiries, the top management of both Weather-Weather and
        Plus-and-Minus have impeccable professional credentials and their integrity is beyond reproach. And yet, all kinds of doubts have been heaped on the results of their surveys.

        Of course, the doubts have come mainly from the candidates who have not landed in the so-called “Magic 12,” or those likely to win.

        I decided to talk to some of the disgruntled candidates.

        “The surveys are rigged,” griped one of them, a former senator who
        had termed out and was running again. “How can an absolute newcomer with
        no record of performance in public service and very little name recognition
        land in the winner’s list, while I end up near the bottom? Isn’t that
        fishy?”

        “But I hear that the folks who run the research companies are
        professionals and are beyond reproach,” I said.

        “Maybe they are, but can you say the same thing about the field
        interviewers?”

        That struck a familiar chord. Back in the wild and wooly Philippine media days,
        the hanky-panky happened out in the field where the interviews were being
        conducted.

        “For instance,” the disgruntled candidate went on, “the
        interviewers can be paid off — how much do they earn, anyway?”

        “But don’t they have field supervisors to check on them?”

        “They can be paid off, too,” came the reply.

        Another senatorial candidate whom I spoke with rattled off other ways of
        rigging the surveys. According to him, the respondent base could be tampered with,
        to ensure biased results. The legitimate questionnaires could also be replaced
        with pre-answered ones.

        “Just like pre-filled-out ballots?” I asked.

        “Same technique,” he said.

        Then he added: “And finally, the tabulation could be altered. Remember how
        the tabulators at the PICC in the snap elections in the Philippines walked out because they were being asked to alter the results?”

        I did remember that. That was the prelude to the People Power uprising.

        “I didn’t realize how easy it is to rig public opinion polls in Santa
        Banana,” I said, rather naively.

        “You better believe it,” said another senatorial candidate. “In
        fact, someone approached me and offered to get me in the top 12 for a price of $5 million.”

        “Oh, yeah?” I reacted, shocked. “And what did you do?”

        “I’m still trying to raise the money,” was his reply.

      • http://www.facebook.com/virgilio.hernandez.12 Virgilio Hernandez

        i am with you this time pare

      • http://www.facebook.com/virgilio.hernandez.12 Virgilio Hernandez

        you too pls

  • lostRunes

    The Palace is behind the latest surveys claiming the president’s numbers are up. Is there any doubt? Ask Tony Boy Cojuangco: stockholder of SWS and Pulse Asia, AirMalaysia este Air Asia, Noynoy’s favorite cousin and biggest campaign contributor (P100 million). Anyone who doubts this is just one of Coloma’s paid hacks.

  • Gloria Wheelchairroyo

    Mga pareng tsismoso at mapanghusga.
    Dapat tanugin nyo muna SWS bago kayo mambintang ng kapwa nyo.
    Kaya papaunti na mga Katoliko gawa ng mga pareng bading, sex offenders, paki-alimero sa pulitika at mapanghusga. Isama mo pa dyan ang mga maling turo at doctrina ng mga pare na wala sa Bibliya.

  • Jhomel Solatorio

    some priests are really kind and doesnt mix up with this political tralala. retired bishop cruz is one of those damaso thinking filipinos are stupid and easily fooled. do not listen to them. they claim.they are righteous but doesnt walk the straight path

  • hu_yu

    just set a good example just like our current pope and you don’t have to worry about your flock. in fact, you don’t have to engage into verbal confrontation about these surveys. let it be….people’s faith on the church lies in your hands, try to look at the mirror and reflect….enough of this child like ramblings,

    • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_two_cents

      Cruz live a humble life, a poor life? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • superpilipinas

      He sets a good example. if not for people like him, Marcos would not be overthrown in 1986 and we have Imelda as Prime Minister today.

  • 2rey3

    Ano ang interest ng nagpa survey? Kung walang nagpa survey, ano ang motibo ni Mangahas na avid supporter ng RH na siyang nagpagawa ng survey????

  • kilabot

    cruz should get used to noykapon.
    palace likes to see things in decline and increase;
    like:
    decline in church attendance;
    decline in admin opposition via pork intimidation;
    increase in ph gdp; fitch rating;
    increase in prices, tuition, crime, smuggling;
    increase in brownouts, poverty, unemployment, hungry..

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_two_cents

    ” the survey was meant to “undermine” the Church”

    No need to do that. Moronic bishops do a good enough job on their own of undermining the church. Cruz should go get a real job instead of living like a parasite off of believers.

    • superpilipinas

      Then Inquirer does not agree with you. Otherwise, they would not publish this news.

      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_two_cents

        The Inquirer is reporting the views of Archbishop Cruz. It is not taking sides. If you do not know how a news organization works, stick to the cartoon network.

  • francis paraan

    thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor..

  • disqusted0fu

    Everything in this Aquino administration is politically motivated. It is quite possible that the surveys are indeed controlled by the Aquino administration. After all, all it takes to be able to control this or practically everything in the PH are extreme wealth and supreme authority, which the Aquino administration obviously have.

  • JasonBieber

    Everyone should know by now that the Palace is behind these surveys being released in the most opportune time for the Administration. Just like when there are bad things happening in the country, surveys are released to show PNoy’s popularity to sway public opinion that things are good when in reality they are not.

    Hard to believe surveys especially when you don’t really know who is being surveyed and how.

  • BatangSingapore

    mongoloid talaga yan abnormal na abnoy na yan. pati pera ng bayan inuubos sa survey. hoy bobong abnoy tanga wala na naniniwala sa survey mo ungas.

    • ye854bela729

      Naku poo buhay ka pa BS kala ko dong tinangay ka na ng mapia para putulin ang mahabang ???? Mo ng matutong magpakatau buti pa magsama kayo ni tadang Cruz dipa magpahingan forever kc hilig sa tv bakit ng pare at di artista k bagay sya devil dba?

  • Joseph20112012

    Obvious fallacy from Archbishop Cruz: increasing number of churchgoers means more vibrant Catholic Church in the Philippines.

    Reality: Most churchgoers are not interested to hear the mass especially the boring portion of homily where some of them are sleeping rather than hearing homily.

    • superpilipinas

      That’s what you want to believe. He-he-he….you already contradicted yourself….just by using the word “churchgoers”

  • hustlergalore

    e di quits lang. partido pulitika din naman ang simbahang katoliko. not to mention that it is an absolute monarchy. LOL

  • superpilipinas

    Noynoy has become the enemy that Ninoy and Cory fought. Just as Kris had turned out to be the wayward daughter that people in the EDSA revolution didn’t think she would become.

    The Church backed Ninoy and Cory because they were righteous. The Church helped overthrow Marcos because of his wrongdoings.

    Now Noynoy is against the Church. Like Marcos, he is protecting his allies and relatives. He does not want FOI prioritized because transparency will potentially wipe-out corrupt and incompetent allies. He does not want the anti-Political dynasty law which his mother supported in the new Constitution. He will do anything, even support controversial liberal ideas, just to prevent FOI from being prioritized.

  • http://twitter.com/brixvillapando brix villapando

    Yang mga comment na ganyan actually ng mga pari at obispo ang lalong nagpapalubog sa “simbahan”….issue ba yung survey e d magpa survey rin kau….

  • http://www.facebook.com/yet.jua Yet Jua

    Please lang Archbishop Oscar Cruz tigilan mo na pag-sashabu mo.Kung ano ano na kasi ang pumapasok sa isipan mo.

  • Joel Cee

    I’d like to believe him but I can’t anymore. In a senate testimony, he, in so many words, admitted that he doesn’t have evidences behind his media exposes. I’m a catholic but i’d like to punch this noisy old man.

  • Albert Einstien

    he he..bishop pa survey din kayo yan ang pang tapat jan…tanungin nyo lahat ng nagsisimba tingnan nyo..100% pabor sa inyo..ganon din sila pnoy xempre ang tatanungin sa survey yung NAKA-PAYROLL sa CCT bilyones budget NON…nahihiya lang sila hindi gawin 100% ang mga survey PABOR para ke PNOY……sobrang HALATA kasi na LUTONG INSTIK MACAO e…pero kung ALISIN ang surveys..REALIDAD ang gusto nyo ..IKUMPARA nyo lang LAHAT ng DATA simula 2010 at 2013..makikita nyo pinagloloko nila ang taombayan..SOBRANG TAAS lahat ng BILIHIN, ang TAAS ng KAHIRAPAN , ang TAAS UNEMPLOYMENT AT ang TAAS Kriminalidad….nasa kumuNOY na daan ang BANSA…..je je..

    sige TULUNGAN ko kayo bishop…one time lang ulit…tulad sa ANTI -RH law.

    DUMADAMI ang KRISTYANO sa BANSA ….BLACK NAZARENE PROCESSION is BEST ILLUSTRATION of FAST increasing influence of RCC in RP…the CATHOLIC FAITH POLE-VAULTED by 650% from 2010 to 2013 to see is to BELIEVE…what EVIDENCE of FAITH is BETTER than WORLD LIVE VIDEO COVERAGE of the CHRISTIAN FAITH & DEVOTION of marching throngs of faithful in the STREETS of manila…

    NEWS : GMA news 1/10/2013 :Some 9 nine million devotees joined the Black Nazarene procession Wednesday..( some estimates 11,000,000,000 joined )..

    NEWS GMA news 1/09/2010….Organizers anticipated a bigger crowd than usual due to the disastrous year that just passed. Authorities have estimated 1.4 million people in the streets, with 50,000 waiting around the Quiapo church, the home of the Black Nazarene.

    2013 DONATIONS ALSO POLE -VAULTED immensely & HANDSOMELY compared to 2010,2011 & 2012 ..ask the pope & velarde for confirmation…OK ba BISHOP……lol

    kaya SINUNGALING at EVIL TALAGA yan nasa likod ng SURVEYS na yan…

    trivia ? coincidence ? or BIBLICAL ? noynoy ( 6 ) simeon ( 6 ) aquino ( 6)

    & RIBBON symbol number equivalent is 666… ( symbols are used for SUBLIMINAL mind control ). yellow ribbon is a symbol for WAR,DEATH, CHAOS, SUICIDES, DISASTER…it is a sign of hardship & negative feelings…negative feelings give power& strength to EVIL..

    Nostradumus & Bible ?

    yellow ribbon…MARK of the beast…

    write 6 on a pice of paper = 6

    at the back write 6 at the same spot of the first 6 = 6

    turn it to front and trace second 6 = 6

    VIOLA! ribbon symbol — 666 the MARK…the KEY….

    .Tie a yellow ribbon song…

    Bus driver, please look for me ( devil )’Cause I couldn’t bear to see what I might seeI’m really still in prison, and my love she ( yellow zombies ) holds the keyA simple yellow ribbon’s what I need to set me free!

    Yellow RIBBON is used to FREE & summon the DEVIL….

  • TheHappyAgnostic

    the clerics fear losing influence or relevance to society. this influence brought them prestige and wealth that it is impossible for them to let it go. as in the case of germany where they have a law that levies a tax for members of a synagogue or church to support the religious institution’s operation. the tax was instituted to compensate for the confiscated land which the churches owned in 1803. the german catholics refuse to pay the taxes, so the german catholic church threatens to withdraw religious services, such as communion and baptism. in short, you have to pay to pray. it was a drastic measure comparable for the money making venture of the stock-exchange of indulgences during martin luther’s time. the german catholic church is losing 100,000 members a year.

  • TheHopefulPessimist

    Comments like these from the bishops don’t help the Catholic Church’s cause. They appear to be arrogant and condescending. They tend to shun people away instead of inviting them to join the faith.

  • Magna Badiee

    The sad mistake that those who voted this president into office made is that they thought that being the son of Ninoy and Cory, he would be just like them. But nothing could be farther from the truth. The guy is the exact opposite of his parents! We should really stop thinking of him in the context of Ninoy and Cory to be able to see him clearly for what he really is: someone who couldn’t care less for the values we Filipinos hold dear and therefore someone we cannot trust to lead our country. He could sell us cheerfully to Obama for thirty pieces of silver and never experience a single twinge of conscience!

    • http://www.facebook.com/yet.jua Yet Jua

      PNoy thank you for doing your part as President of the Philippines in order to minimize if not fully demolished the culture of corruption in all sectors of the government in this country.

  • Magna Badiee

    I would like to thank Archbishop Cruz and the other bishops who tirelessly defend the church in the face of criticism from Godless people. Your eminence,when you stand up for the Church, you are standing up for us, who form the church. So again, many thanks, and may God always keep you under His protection as we always keep you in our prayers!

  • tohellwithhypocrites

    pajero
    pedophiles
    ivory smugglers
    BIGOTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 82hbf01

    Surveys are collective thought-control. .This is a subtle form of dictatorship. 1.200 persons kuno hope to dominate 92 million Filipinos. It proliferated in this administration. Decent Filipinos have to criticize this to maintain the highest freedom of thought that we deserve. .Let’s fight in the realm of ideas & reason. . We respect opposite ideas. .

  • ztefertilizerscam10

    GlorIa bribed to Mitsubishop and Safari…

    Butuan City Bishop Juan de Dios Pueblos, who received a Mitsubishi Montero, Bontoc-Lagawe Bishop Rodolfo Beltran (Nissan Pathfinder), Abra Bishop Leopoldo Jaucian (Mitsubishi Strada), Cotabato Archbishop Orlando Quevedo (Toyota Grandia Hi-Ace), Basilan Bishop Martin Jumoad (Mitsubishi Strada), Zamboanga Archbishop Romulo Valles (Toyota Grandia Hi-Ace); and Nueva Segovia Archbishop Ernesto Salgado (Isuzu Crosswind).

  • ztefertilizerscam10

    Priest who had sex with boys now tells how to smuggle ivory

    National Geographic‘s new issue exposes the ivory business, which has been hiding in plain sight since a worldwide trade ban was enacted in 1989. And a major player in the magazine’s story is a priest in the Philippines whom I wrote about in 2005 when investigating another global-trafficking phenomenon — the Catholic Church’s movement of sexual abuse suspects across international borders to escape justice.

    The priest, Monsignor Cristobal Garcia, is now quoted as explaining how to smuggle ivory into the United States:

    “Wrap it in old, stinky underwear and pour ketchup on it.” And if an icon won’t fit in a suitcase? Here’s how

    National Geographic‘s Bryan Christy summarizes Garcia’s advice: “I might get a certificate from the National Museum of the Philippines declaring my image to be antique, or I could get a carver to issue a paper declaring it

    to be imitation or alter the carving date to before the ivory ban.”Garcia also made provocative comments when I interviewed him about why he fled the U.S. in 1985. He admitted having sex with altar boys and supplying them with drugs

    The Catholic sex abuse cases are a series of convictions, trials and investigations into allegations of child sexual abuse Crimes committed by Catholic priests and members of Roman Catholic orders against children as young as 3 years old with the majority between the ages of 11 and 14.

  • ztefertilizerscam10

    STOP DONATING YOUR MONEY TO THE CORRUPT BISHOP..

    The Bank Investments Of Different Dioceses

    Diocese / Church Foundation Company # Shares Owned Rank in Top 100 Total Investment Value

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 222,843,681 4th PHP12.724 Billion

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (REAL CASA DE MISERICORDIA) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 41,408,841 8th PHP2.364 Billion

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA (HOSPITAL DE SAN JUAN DE DIOS) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 22,072,182 13th PHP1.26 Billion

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (HOSPICIO DE SAN JOSE) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 6,016,624 15th PHP343.55 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (HOSP DE SA JUAN DE DIOS) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 4,285,572 17th PHP244.71 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (MAYORDOMIA DELA CATEDRAL) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 2,664,266 21st PHP152.13 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (ST. PAUL`S HOSPITAL) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 1,772,418 26th PHP101.21 Million

    CARMEL OF THE DIVINE INFANT JESUS OF PRAGUE, INC. Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 726,819 49th PHP41.50 Million

    EL SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION FILIPINA DE PADRES AGUSTINOS RECOLETOS Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 551,382 60th PHP31.48 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF JARO Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 491,385 64th PHP28.06 Million

    EL SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION FILIPINA DE PADRES AGUSTINOS RECOLETOS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 2,370,000 31st PHP260.70 Million

    SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION ARCHICOFRADIA DE N.P.J.N DE RECOLETOS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 1,234,603 75th PHP135.81 Million

    CARMEL OF THE DIVINE INFANT JESUS OF PRAGUE, INC. San Miguel Corp (SMC) 957,516 79th PHP105.33 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TUGUEGARAO San Miguel Corp (SMC) 856,639 81st PHP94.23 Million

    REAL MONASTERIO DE LA PURISIMA CONCEPCION DE NUESTRA MADRE SANTA CLARA DE MANILA San Miguel Corp (SMC) 809,834 83rd PHP89.08 Million

    SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION DE PADRES RECOLETOS POR BECAS Y VOCACIONES San Miguel Corp (SMC) 621,702 89th PHP68.39 Million

    CARMEL OF ST THERESE OF THE CHILD JESUS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 592,956 91st PHP65.23 Million

    THE DISCALCED CARMELITE NUNS OF CEBU San Miguel Corp (SMC) 451,864 95th PHP49.71 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF NUEVA SEGOVIA DE VIGAN San Miguel Corp (SMC) 428,067 98th PHP47.09 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA Philex Mining Corp (PX) 3,221,135 15th PHP66.68 Million

    RELIGIOUS OF THE VIRGIN MARY – B Philex Mining Corp (PX) 3,125,777 16th PHP64.70 Million

    RELIGIOUS OF THE VIRGIN MARY-A Philex Mining Corp (PX) 1,091,027 69th PHP22.58 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TUGUEGARAO Ayala Corporation (AC) 24,015 73rd PHP9.29 Million

    KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS FRATERNAL ASSOCIATION OF THE PHILS, INC. Ayala Corporation Preferred Shares – A (ACPA) 60,000 2nd PHP31.80 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TAGBILARAN Ayala Corporation Preferred Shares – B (ACPR) 10,000 64th PHP1.02 Million

    DAUGHTERS OF CHARITY OF ST. VINCENT DE PAUL PHINMA Corp. (PHN) 159,575 19th PHP2.12 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF THE DIOCESE OF JUAN DE DIOS PHINMA…

    • billy gunner

      the church has more credibility than your president and his minions combined.

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