Priests blame boring sermons, second collections

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Some are turned off by boring homilies and “second collections.” News of scandals involving priests also bothers them. But most are “distracted” by a lot of things.

Activist priest Fr. Robert Reyes and Msgr. Sabino Vengco offered these explanations to survey results showing “dwindling” numbers of Filipino Catholics hearing Mass over the past two decades.

A Social Weather Stations (SWS) survey in February found that only 37 percent of Catholics were going to church, a huge decline from 64 percent in 1991.

The survey also found that 9.2 percent of Filipino Catholics were considering leaving the Church.

“We’re hemorrhaging. It’s not massive blood loss but there’s blood loss. I see it; I experience it. The parishioners are losing faith, passion and interest in the Catholic Church. There’s something lacking that they can’t put their fingers on,” Reyes said by phone.

To say that the number of church-going Catholics was “dwindling” is inaccurate because the decline has been happening for years, said Vengco, who estimated that the figure would be less than 30 percent.

Both have explanations for some Catholics’ lack of interest in the Mass and not the least of these are “boring homilies.”

“Liturgies are rather bland and boring, and if the Liturgy is bland and boring, we have to wonder whether God is bland and boring. It has nothing to do with God; it has a lot to do with priests,” Reyes said.

Second collections

Reyes said that a number of Catholics were also turned off by priests who preach too much about donating money to the Church or parishes that conduct “second collections” toward the end of the celebration. Some parishes do second collections in Sunday Masses year-round.

“This penchant for fundraising is taken negatively by the people. This should be looked into by the Church,” said Reyes, parish priest of the parishes of Transfiguration in Murphy, Cubao from 1992 to 1996, Holy Sacrifice on the University of the Philippines campus in Diliman from 1996 to 2003 and Miraculous Medal in Project 4 from 2003 to 2006—all in Quezon City.

Reyes acknowledged that priests were sometimes so caught up with their “sacramental duties” that they fail to prepare well for the homily and ensure that everything—from the choir and the sound system to the lighting and seats—is A-OK.

Vengco, a lecturer and professor of Systematic and Sacramental Theology at Loyola School of Theology and Carlos Seminary, agreed that some priests were presiding over the Eucharist “perfunctorily.”

“The way they preach is rather boring and not up to the demands of the listeners. So when it comes to preaching, that is one very negative factor. But we do have good preachers,” Vengco said.

It’s no surprise then that some turn to charismatic, Bible-based churches, where the service is vibrant, the pastors are more energetic, the homilies are more moving and the songs are livelier, Reyes said.

‘Religious migration’

Vengco called this “religious migration,” which he said occurred after Catholics had compared notes on the celebrations in the Catholic Church and services in evangelical groups.

“Catholics are now exposed to charismatic, born-again and evangelical groups, and they can make comparisons,” Vengco said, even though he observed that this migration had “tapered off.”

The SWS finding that the 37 percent of the 1,200 respondents polled from Feb. 15 to 17 across the country confirmed going to church every week paled in comparison with the church-going members of Iglesia ni Cristo (70 percent), Protestants (64 percent) and other Christians (62 percent). Seventy-five percent of Muslims go to the mosque at least weekly.

The survey also found that 81 percent of the more than 90 million Filipinos were Catholics, 6 percent were Protestants, 3 percent were INC members and 3 percent were of other Christian denominations.

Compared with other groups, Catholics are the less devout, with only 29 percent saying they consider themselves very religious.

Several bishops and the communications chief of the Archdiocese of Manila disputed the survey results, pointing out that churches were filled to capacity every Sunday and parishes were being created every now and then.

Sex abuses

Reading reports about sex abuses by priests, mostly in the United States and Europe in the papers or on the Internet, also affects the Catholics, Reyes said.

“A lot of Catholics are priest-centered. If the credibility and integrity of priests suffer because of the scandal, even if it happens elsewhere, lay people are affected. That is where the decline is coming from,” he said.

Vengco, who writes the column “Alalaong Baga” for Business Mirror every Thursday, agreed that this was a factor but not in the same degree as in the United States or Europe.

But otherwise, most Catholics are distracted by a number of things from going to Mass, Reyes said.

“There are so many distractions. They’d rather go to the mall or sleep. Committing a mortal sin is no longer a threat. People feel it’s not a sin. There’s a relaxation of the moral discipline that makes people think they’re sinning,” he said.

Reyes, now a Franciscan novice undergoing a yearlong “canonical year” in Liliw, Laguna province, also observed that some men had become “lazy” and church-going has been relegated to the women and children.

While serving as a parish priest in Project 4, Reyes observed that only 5 to 8 percent of the 140,000 residents were going to Sunday Masses.

“The church always looks full because of the sheer number of Catholics,” he said.

Superficial religiosity

Vengco, however, pointed to some deeper reason behind all this: the Filipino’s “superficial religiosity.”

“We’ve been nominal Catholics sheer tradition since the Spanish period. It is never a case of conversion but rather political accommodation,” he said. “There is not enough depth in it. The Filipinos are satisfied with what is superficial.”

Reyes said the survey should prod Pope Francis to form a commission to “honestly assess what’s going on” and challenge parish priests to craft a pastoral “formation” program that would nourish the parishioners’ faith and craving for knowledge of the Scriptures.

Reintroducing the “missionary orientation” of the priests in communities and strengthening the basic ecclesial communities, a venue for parishioners to pray and share experiences around Bible passages, would help a lot, he said.

“Rather than stay in our desks, we should immerse ourselves in communities. People are craving for more personal, pastoral approach, rather than a business-like approach to ministry,” he said. “The only way we can start doing our work meaningfully is to create a lay partner to do the work and join him or her from time to time.”

Vengco said: “There’s a lack of spirituality among our priests. That’s why their marriage doesn’t come across to their listeners. We must be personal witnesses. As St. Augustine said, ‘Before anyone can touch others, you must yourself be touched by God.’”

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  • txtman

    FACTS OF THE FAKE SURVEY
    972 (catholics daw) x 9.2 % = 89 person
    1200 (ghost respondents kono) x 81% (catholics daw) = 972 people
    972 (catholics daw) x 1% (non-religious catholics daw) = 9.72 people
    9.72 (non-religious RC) x 57.3% (thinking of leaving minsan daw) = 4.86 person
    SO ALL IN ALL ABOUT 9 PERSON LANG
    9 divided by 972 = 0.009 or 0.9% LESS THAN 1 %
    ANONG KLASENG STATISTICIAN BA YAN?
    A CLASSIC DAGDAG-BAWAS!
    AHAHAHAHAHA
    AT NAUTO NAMAN KAYO AGAD?
    PITIFUL
    AHAHAHAHA

    • txtman

      YUNG 9 PERSON
      DINAGDAGAN NG NUMBER 8
      PARA MAGING 89
      AHAHAHAHA
      CLASSIC DAGDAG-BAWAS
      ELECTION NA NGA
      GLORIA ARROYO PA BA NGAYON?
      AHAHAHA
      PITIFUL

      • txtman

        YUNG LESS THAN 1%
        DINAGDAGAN NG FIGURE # 1
        KAYA NAGING 1 OUT OF 11 DAW
        CLASSIC DAGDAG-BAWAS
        ELECTION NA NGA!
        AHAHAHAHA
        AQUINORROYO NA PALA SI PENOY NGAYON?
        AHAHAHA
        PITIFUL

      • txtman

        OR YUNG 1 OUT OF 111
        BINAWASAN NG FIGURE #1
        KAYA NAGING 1 OUT OF 11
        CLASSIC DAGDA-BAWAS
        ELECTION NA NGA
        LUMIPAT NA PALA SI GARCI AS SURVEYOR?
        MAY NINIWALA PA KAYA SA SURVEY ORG NA ITO?
        AHAHAHAHA
        IKAW KUNG GUSTO MO MAGPAUTO
        PITIFUL
        AHAHAHA

  • txtman

    >>> BAKIT NEWS ITO? <<<<<<
    KASI INQUIRER IS A YELLOW LAPDOG MEDIA
    KAHIYA!
    AHAHAHAHA
    PATI PALA SILA NAGPAPAGAMIT SA DAGDAG-BAWAS
    PITIFUL
    AHAHAHAHA

  • $46804224

    roman catholic in the philippines is largely superstitious catholicism….

    • txtman

      >> HINDI MO BA NAHAHALATA?<<<
      INQUIRER IS A YELLOW LAPDOG MEDIA?
      WOW! NAGPAPAGAMIT NA RIN PALA SILA SA DAGDAG-BAWAS
      NASISIRA ANG CREDIBILITY NILA
      WHAT A SHAME
      PITIFUL
      AHAHAHA

      • txtman

        >>>>THE BIGGEST NEWS DAPAT<<<<<
        .
        SWS HULING-HULING
        SA DAGDAG-BAWAS SCHEME
        MAY MANINIWALA PA KAYA DITO?
        IKAW KUNG GUSTO MONG MAGPAUTO
        AHAHAHA
        PITIFUL

      • ernesto

        ksi sumasamba kayo sa rebolto na santo.cemento kasi yan bro

      • jcsantos

        You question Inquirer’s credibility? Here’s a good suggestion for you: STOP READING INQUIRER. Reading and posting here will probably give you high blood sooner or later.

    • cato_the_younger

      It’s Roman Catholicism with pagan overtones. When Catholicism was introduced in RP, it just basically became an overlay in the folk religion endemic to the country. That is the reason why Catholicism as practiced in Europe is so different from RP. Here in RP, people are so into scapulars, himalas, rebultos, etc. which is basically treated as some sort of amulet against evil. While Western Catholics are not known for overt displays of piety, they are more inclined to to be civil towards other people – they know how to fall in line, don’t cut off other cars in the roads, pay taxes, donate money to charity, etc.

      • txtman

        AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A FILIPINO?
        I GUESS NOT
        YOU ARE A FOREIGNER
        AN ATHEIST FOREIGNER
        WHAT A SHAME
        YOUR COUNTRY HAS A LOT OF PROBLEMS
        DON’T BRING IT HERE IN THE PH
        KEEP YOUR GARBAGE WITH YOU
        PITIFUL

      • cato_the_younger

        I am not blind to the shortcomings of Filipino Catholicism. As for the country I live in having lots of problems – look who’s talking. The politicians here are not corrupt, we have very good social safety nets – healthcare is free, crime is not as rampant, people can afford to eat three square meals a day, we don’t have chaos in our streets, etc. As long as Filipinos fail to practice the tenets of the faith, then RP, that paragon of Catholicism in Asia would continue to languish like a sick man. I don’t need to take any garbage with me, we dispose it properly here – as every person of faith should. Have you taken a look at the esteros in Manila lately? How blind can you get – you are like a pharisee.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        where i lived the priest wore cowboy boots a levis and worked with other churches if there was problems. there was no one selling candles or oil. no pomp and glitter. a country where the average wage was 45000 dollars not 3000. where teenagers own their own cars to drive to school. my kids are going to school half days here because to many kids for the schools its a good thing many kids cant go to school because of no money or it would be worse

      • txtman

        AHAHAHA
        THE POLITICIANS ARE NOT CORRUPT IN YOUR COUNTRY?
        ANONG TAWAG MO SA MGA POLITIKONG
        GUSTO, MAGING DEPENDENT MGA TAO SA KANILA?
        NA ANG GUSTO MAGING TAMAD KA
        PARA FOREVER KANG POOR?
        HINDI BA ANG DAMI SA BANSA MO ANG POOR?
        POOR NA UMAASA LANG SA BIGAY NG GOBYERNO MO?
        GUSTO NG MGA POLITIKO YAN PARA FOREVER SILANG IBOTO NG MGA TAO AT FOREVER SILANG NASA POSISYON?
        DON’T GIVE ME THAT S*H*#- T
        PINAGYAYABANG MONG MAYAMAN YANG BANSA MO NGAYON?
        MAYAMAN NGA SILA KASI MGA MAGNANAKAW SILA
        NINAKAWAN & INABUSO MGA IBANG BANSA
        IKAW ANG BULAG, BASAHIN MO ANG HISTORY
        MAKIKITA MO MAGNANAKAW & CRIMINAL MGA YAN
        PWE
        PITIFUL

      • teekaye2

        Maybe people outside of the Philippines are more infomed than most Fillinas?

      • Nimrod Suaez

        Hey..david bobir, crazy horse and teekaye…calling each other idiot and racial pig, are yuo really christians?

      • taga_ilog

        nope, dave bobir is an atheist and that makes him a better person than the average christian who threatens anyone with the fires of hell. what is being called an idiot compared to wishing someone to eternal damnation?

      • marionics

        kasi sinner kayooooooo…

        sineeeeeeerrr….

      • taga_ilog

        hahaha 1 ang gleng naman nila,

      • teekaye2

        I am not what maybe what you would call a Christian but unlike your child molesting priests I do follow the ten commandments to the best of my ability

      • Crazy_horse101010

        is it any of your business what im if you could read we were not calling each other names we were talking to txtman look at the fine print

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000923389289 David Bobir

        No! I’m not a christian…never claim to be. Idiot is in fact an old style Psychological classification. So is moron!

      • marionics

        he he bigyan mo kasi ng modern psychological terms para di siya mainsulto hahaha

      • teekaye2

        I gather from your comments that you cannot read or understand English so I will ignore your childish diatrab

      • Crazy_horse101010

        now you are a racist pig was jesus racist. you just proved you are no christian hypocrite . have fun in hell pitful

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000923389289 David Bobir

        idiot! someone makes a critical point about PH and they must be foreigner. Don’t forget…you got your religion from foreigners in the first place!

      • rico_mambo

        here comes the troll again.

      • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

        lol.

      • $46804224

        actually text man, you are the best argument and the infallible proof of what is wrong with catholicism in the philippines. you are giving roman cathlocism a real bad name!!!!

        but i guess i will not judge you on your religious affiliation…. people will judge you based on your character and attitude…and the way you post here.. it is self explanatory….grow up…

      • buttones

        Actually I think the guy is the best argument for euthanasia I have ever seen…

      • buttones

        19 down votes- not bad, but could try harder. By the way, there is a small button on your key board ‘Caps Lock’ on the left hand side- use it, turn it off, people might the idea you are shouting at them, including foreigners and atheists…. And you wouldn’t want that would you..

      • marionics

        THAT’S exactly what he wants he he

      • txtman

        >>>> BIGGEST NEWS <<<<
        .
        .
        SWS, HULING-HULI
        SA DAGDAG-BAWAS SCHEME
        MADAMING PINOY NAUTO
        PITIFUL
        AHAHAHA

      • buttones

        I think that’s very true, we have a mixture of pagan and Catholic belief, we keep our wooden dolls and overt displays of crucifixions, both of which are actually frowned upon by the Vatican, but they still go on, a trade off I guess, 80 million Catholics are not to be sneezed at. What I find odd is that the result of the recent survey was rejected out of hand, and now another voice is trying to explain the result ….A collective RC voice might be more in order.

      • ARIKUTIK

        Ge delete lahat ng comments ko ….waaaahhhhh

    • TheHappyAgnostic

      actually, not only in the philippines … folk catholicism is endemic as in haiti, new orleans or even italy. it would not be surprising because most of the catholic practices have its pagan origins. even the celebration of the mass is borrowed from the pagan cult of mithra. but of course, the clerics shrugged it off by saying that the devil is so wise to make a counterfeit ahead of the real thing as to confuse the gullible, i mean the believers.

      • $46804224

        i agree. in fact loiusiana voodoo is a mix of catholicism and african slave culture. but am not familiar with the sociological aspects of voodoo, thus i limit my comment to Philippine.

    • http://www.facebook.com/frieda2012 Lourdes Pangilinan

      Tama. Puro pera din ang iniisip. Akala ko ba wala sa mundo ang kaisipan ng simbahan.

      • $46804224

        hmmm di naman siguro masama ang pera… it’s the love of money, to be biblically correct. i have seen priest hand pastors (and yes they are friends there) in the hinterlands of agusan, bikidnon, and davao norte…establishing congregation… wag naman natin lahatin

    • ApoNiLolo

      No different from “Catholicism” as practiced in Latin America.

  • Hey_Dudes

    I recently attended a Sunday mass in Cerritos California (Southern California). I was not aware a Filipino priest, perhaps owing to many Filipinos residing in Cerritos-Pioneer-Lakewood areas will be officiating the mass. I am not being critical of Filipino priest but this specific priest was a complete turn-off as far as I am concerned. I did not mind the accent and off the cuff ad libs but I take umbrage on constantly comparing things back home and places he has so far seen in the USA. Not only that – the loud missal songs performed by local Fil-Ams was enough to hurt your ears early in the morning in such a small parish. After this experience, I always make it a point to attend masses where nothing like this occurs. Napaka-bakya pong talaga.

    • brunogiordano

      Sample iyan ng pari na tinatawag dito sa PINAS na DAMASO.

      • txtman

        >>> BIGGEST NEWS<<<<
        .
        SWS HULING-HULI
        SA DAGDAG-BAWAS
        WALA NG NAINIWALA DITO
        PITFUL
        AHAHAHA

  • tonyoks

    the catholic church is a dogmatic belief based on fallacies.
    sooner or later people under their “control” will realize this.

    and so is the rest of those who capitalizes on the naivete and ignorance of our common taos.

    darating din ang panahon na magising ang lahat at mapatunayang, “walang himala”…

    religion is the opium of our people…it numbs our mind and offers a false sense of heavenly euphoria….karl marx….

    • Dax Cogitlog

      very true!!!

  • Euan Mac

    facepalm

  • brunogiordano

    Ang isang malaking dahilan kung bakit nagaalisan ang mga katoliko Sa kanilang simbahan ay ang pananatili ng mga pari at obispong DAMASO at ang itinuturong MORALIDAD ay hindi lang 200 years behind kung hindi 500 years.

    Marami ng mga FILIPNO ang mga literate at well informed at hindi na GULLIBLE na nagpapaloko sa mga RELIGIOUS SCAMMERS.

    • InChristAlone_75

      See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive
      philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual
      forces of this world rather than on Christ. – Colossians 2:8

      Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Ephesians 6:10-12

      The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they
      cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ,
      who is the image of God. – 2 Corinthians 4:4

      • brunogiordano

        Sabi rin ito ng BIBLE –

        So what does the Bible tell us?

        Who should we kill? ?

        Homosexuals (Lev.20:13, Rom.1:26-32)
        Adulterers (Lev.20:10, Deut.22:22)
        Disobedient children (Deut.21:20-21, Lev.20:9, Exod.21:15)
        Women who are not virgins on their wedding night (Deut.22:13-21)
        All non-Christians (parable told by Christ – Luke.19:27)
        Those accused of wickedness by at least two people (Deut.17:2-7)
        Anyone who works on the Sabbath (Exod.35:2-3, Num.15:32-6) (not even to kindle a fire, and no exclusion for ambulance drivers)

        Women

        It is shameful for a woman to speak in church (1Cor.14:34-5)
        A man must OK his wife´s words if they are to have force (Num.30:8)
        A woman must not teach or hold authority over a man (1Tim.2:12)
        Lot saves the messengers from the men of Sodom by offering up his virgin daughters to ´do to them as you please´ (Gen.19:8) Kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourself every girl who has never slept with a man (Moses – Num.31:17-8)

        Slavery

        God supports slavery (Lev.25:44-6, Exod.21:2-8, Eph.6:5, Col.3:22)
        Instructions on how to sell your daughter as a slave (Exod.21:7-8)
        When to give your slaves severe or light beatings (Luke.12:42-8)
        OK to beat slaves only if they don´t die within 2 days (Exod.21:20-1)
        How to mark your slave: drive an awl through its ear (Deut.15:17)

        Marriage

        It´s best if all people remain unmarried. Marriage is a lesser-of-two-evils compromise for Christians too weak to resist their sexual urges, for it is better to marry than to burn. (Paul – 1Cor.7:1-2, 8-9, 25-6, 38)
        The rapist of an unwed woman must buy her and make her his wife (apparently a far more ‘holy’ union than a genuine, loving same-sex relationship) – Deut.22:28-9

        Justice

        If a man suspects his wife of cheating he can serve her a cursed drink; if she becomes deformed, then that proves her guilt (Num.5:12-31)
        42 children killed by bears for calling a prophet baldy (2King.2:23-4)
        OK to beat your children with a rod – it won’t kill them (Prov.23:13-4)
        God commits, orders, or endorses every form of atrocity known to man (pretty much pick a page of the Old Testament at random)

        Do the Old Testament laws still apply?

        Every jot and tittle (Christ Matt.5:17-9)

        Christ, what a role model!

        Christ tells us we must hate our entire family, and even our own life, if we want to be one of His disciples (Luke.14:26)
        Those who abandon their families will be rewarded (Matt.19:29)
        ´For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother… And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.´ (Christ – Matt.10:35-6)
        I came not to send peace, but a sword (Christ – Matt.10:34)
        If you don´t have a sword, sell your clothes to buy one (Luke.22:36)
        Curses fig tree for not bearing fruit in off-season (Mark.11:12-4, 20-1)
        Didn´t want to help girl because she was a ´dog´ gentile (Matt.15:22-8)

        Of course there are several good passages in the Bible, the ones that are carefully selected by your minister for Sunday readings. But (and pardon the analogy) if you find some chocolate in a pile of dung you don´t eat it, right? No. The good is tainted by the bad that surrounds it.”

      • InChristAlone_75

        It’s so strange, yesterday i tried posting my reply but couldn’t, good that you posted this again.

        It’s such a shame that atheists accuse Christians of selecting only the several good passages in the Bible when they themselves do not read the Bible in its entirety and only pick up the verses they think are inconsistent and preposterous. I see you have copied and pasted this item from an atheist blog, they are not inconsistencies you have discovered yourself from perusing the Bible.

        Are homosexuals, adulterers, defiled brides, disobedient
        kids, atheists being killed today? The Christ Jesus that you continue to deny and mock is the very reason we all still breathe right at this time.

        Get rid of your biases and preconceived notions, find time
        to read the Bible yourself, the Old and the New Testament, and then go judge the Holy Book.

      • brunogiordano

        Nakasulat ba sa BIBLE ito????

        Kung nakasulat TAMA ang sabi ng marami na ang BIBLE ay BAD book, is not a good BOOK.

      • InChristAlone_75

        See to it, brothers and sisters, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God. -Hebrews 3:12

        It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. – Hebrews 10:31

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000923389289 David Bobir

        I’m an atheist and have read the bible front to back…twice! How would you know the reading habits of atheists?. Most atheist I know are actually very well read people. Maybe you should read more. Some Greek and Roman history particularly relating to Gods. You might find some uncomfortable insights into Christianity and where Catholic dogma came from.

      • The Enforcer

        The truth will never enlighten such as these,David. There are none so blind as they that do not see. RH supporters. Catholic priest abuse of children supporters, Vatican multimillion dollar wealth supporters. Jesus was poor, a carpenter. He didnt need a church or money to state his gospel.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        i have family who are atheist and they asked me why are atheists more like christians than christians are. they give to poor people help people dont steal or kill in others words they are human just like most everyone else.

      • pogiako

        i have met christians that are better people than atheists.. but i still dont generalize

      • pogiako

        you can read the bible hundred times but it will not matter if you didnt understand the meaning of what you read

      • taga_ilog

        I have read from cover to cover the bible, for the nth time, I went from being a catholic to baptist to INC to dating daan, I even been a muslim for a couple of years but sadly, you cannot beleieve the bible and find it as the word of god if you WILL read it with critical mind. you cannot accuse atheists from selective readi because it is you who is selective.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000923389289 David Bobir

        good for you…better to be thinking and inquisitive than blindly following

      • Nick_Fury

        Sayang Brod nabasa mo na ang Biblia pero wala ka natutunan na Aral ng Dios. Ibig mo ba sabihin binasa mo lang ang Biblia para mabatikos, o naghanap ng maisusumbat na mali?

      • taga_ilog

        bakit ikaw bro, nabasa mo na ba ang bibliya? o selective ka din, me natutunan nga ako kaya ako naging atheist eh, dahil kung hindi ako natuto, malamang gaya mo rin ako, nagbasa ako ng bibliya upang makita ang katotohanan at nakita ko nga.

      • Jomex

        I am a theologian, ex-seminarian 8 years, philsopher, i have read the bible many times front to cover. now I am an atheist, one of the reasons why I became an atheist is because of the Bible. the Bible is the best tool for de-conversion to atheism.

      • InChristAlone_75

        Always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth.
        2 TIM 1:13

      • romeyo chill

        One time when I tried reading the OT of the Bible, my brows raised for several times in disbelief. I didn’t know if I’m just so ignorant (If i just I couldn’t grasp the real meaning of those stories) because I really find those events mythical and unrealistic. . . and evil too. the people of God conquering cities and killing men because God is with them???!!! Everything just seems so complicated to me.

      • Nick_Fury

        A ganun ba? ikaw yung galit na galit sa mga naniniwala sa Dios.
        Ang bitter ba ng past mo kaya atheista ka na ngayon? o wala ka lang kasing naiintindihan ng Aral ng Dios? kung ganoon sarado ang Biblia sayo. Wala kang naunawaan for 8 years? may problema sa puso mo brod at isip kaya sarado ang Biblia sayo. Maganda pa naman credentials mo Theologian (gandang pakinggan na titulo), Philosopher (ang lawak ng pagiisip dapat), seminarian (supposedly dedicated sa Dios) pero sorry to say Brod ang pagkaintindi sa Biblia ay naguumpisa sa pananampalataya at magandang budhi.

      • Andrei Mendoza

        well said, bro!

      • gudwil2all

        i’m still reading it jomex
        and up to now i’m still lost

      • TheHappyAgnostic

        it’s not a shame for atheists to accuse of christians of cherry picking the good passages because they are aware there are bad passages… atheists came from diverse religious background and most of them probably have more knowledge about the bible more than you do. rather than accusing the atheists of biases, why don’t you ask yourself is it okay to murder innocent women and children just like what god ordered the genocide of canaanites. why it is immoral to wear clothes made up of two fabrics? why is it an abomination to eat shrimps and crabs? (yes, all that leviticus stuff) admit it or not, the bible is bs.

        “Are homosexuals, adulterers, defiled brides, disobedient
        kids, atheists being killed today? ” <— we don't want that to happen that's why we don't want your bible being imposed upon us. we don't want to be next uganda where they passed a homophobic law, the "kill the gay bill"

      • Crazy_horse101010

        im not atheist but i dont belong to any church anymore i dont need someone to lead me around and judge me i know how to read and think for myself. i can read the bible and make my own decisions. and ive read enough of the history of the church to make me stay away if we were all the same we would be a bunch of mindless robots as they say thats what makes the world go around

      • pogiako

        self righteous eh

      • Nick_Fury

        Sarado ang Biblia sayo kaya ayon ang pagkaintindi mo sa Biblia. Wala ka nauunawaan sa Biblia. Sorry Bro pero ang Dios natin hindi ganyan kasama na pinalalabas mo.

      • TheHappyAgnostic

        oh yes… the god of the bible is the god of love… for god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believe in him should not perish but have eternal life ….right? it’s like saying that if you reject him, he will torture you for all eternity. just like a jilted lover who will harm those who don’t love him in return. that is not the behavior of a sane person. that is the behavior of a psychopath.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000923389289 David Bobir

        haha….yeh…love me or else….a narc psychopath…exactly…well said. Other factions also apply harsh sanctions even today…will go as far as to banish family members who don’t adhere. It’s all designed to make a religion the ONE TRUE religion. Is it any wonder there are fanatics of all stripes in the world. There isn’t much difference between a fanatical southern baptist hoping for armaggedon and a islamic jihadist

      • Nick_Fury

        That is your human perspective. But like I said if you know the will of God that is not what you portray him to be, for like you said he is truly the God of Love.

      • TheHappyAgnostic

        cognitve dissonance?

      • Nick_Fury

        Yeah this may refer to you.

      • TheHappyAgnostic

        not really… you are talking about your perspective devoid of any sense. you are just denying reality in favor of a cherished delusion. when i presented you with a fact that your god’s behavior is like that of a psychopath, you simply acted just like an ostrich that bury its head and ignore it. is it because it is inconvenient for you too face? rational beings will present a reasonable argument why is your god not a psychopath… but you didn’t even attempt to give an argument. i didn’t portray your god, i simply repeated what most of you are saying and i simply say what psychologist will say about such behavior. if i’m going to portray your god in its totality, your god will be a tyrant more deranged than the combination of hitler, mao and stalin… and his acts will make hannibal lecter a very cute little kindergarten.

        i am amazed by the timidity of your god. is he that incompetent and so impotent that he had to rely on a clown like you to speak for him?

      • Nick_Fury

        I am in awe with your arrogance and ignorance. If you cannot understand why this things happen for a reason better not present your arguments as if it is foolproof and final. The Bible is a closed book for fools like you, so much that whatever you present in your argument is shallow and devoid of any knowledge of God’s plan and actions. For your sake better not to be too arrogant and too proud of yourself to judge him as such because in the end I will assure you, your words and actions will put you into shame and show that you are a fool.

      • ApoNiLolo

        “… atheists accuse Christians of selecting only the several good passages in the Bible when they themselves do not read the
        Bible in its entirety…”

        This statement amused me. What made them became atheist in the first place? >: D

      • The Enforcer

        Yes unfortunately even the Bible is man made. It is what remains after 2000 years of catholic revision and expunging anything that does not fit their doctrine. The Muslims have it right,The Koran has remained untouched. And must be read in Arabic to retain the original meaning not translated.

      • Nick_Fury

        Kamangmangan yan sa Biblia at hindi yan ang Aral ng Dios. Sorry Brod hindi mo naiintindihan ang Biblia kaya hindi mo nauunawaan ang Kalooban at Aral ng Dios. Ang Dios natin hindi ganyan kasama na ipinalalabas mo.

      • taga_ilog

        ang sinasabi mo ba nick fury na ang mga isinaad ni brunogiordano ay hindi nakasulat sa bibliya at ang mga nabanggit nya ay walang katotohanan? ikaw ba ay nakakaalam ng mga kalooban at aral ng diyos?

      • Nick_Fury

        Ang sinasabi ko taga ilog ay ang Dios natin hindi ganyan kasama na gaya ng ipinalalabas ni brunogiordano.

      • marionics

        armor of god???

        jackie chan yun a he he

        galing nung sineng yun chong

        hahaha

      • txtman

        >>ANO SABI NG INQUIRER?<<<
        "MINSAN NAMAN KASI GAMOT SA INSOMIA ANG HOMILY"
        .
        MR/MS. INQUIRER REPORTER/S
        ."MINSAN NAMAN KASI GAMOT SA INSOMIA ANG SUHOL, HINDI BA?"
        MAKES ME PUKE
        NAGPAGAMIT KAYO SA SWS DAGDAG-BAWAS MODUS
        ANG PERA NGA NAMAN ANO?
        PINAPAKAPAL PAGMUMUKHA NG ISANG REPORTER
        AHAHAHA
        PITIFUL

    • txtman

      >>>INQUIRER, NAUTO NG SWS DAGDAG-BAWAS MUDOS<<<
      972 X 9.2% = 89 person
      1200 (ghost respondents) x 81% (catholics daw) = 972 people
      972 (RC) x 1% (nonreligious catholics daw) = 9.72 person
      9.72 (noreligious RC) x 57.3% (thingking of leaving minsan daw) = 4.86 people
      SO ALL IN ALL 9 PEOPLE LANG
      9 divided by 972 = 0.009 or 0.9%
      LESS THAN 1 %
      ANONG KLASENG STATISTICIAN YAN?
      CLASSIC DAGDAG-BAWAS
      ELECTION NA NGA
      AHAHAHAHA
      NGAYON QUIET MGA CIVIL SOCIETY DAW?
      PAGPRO-PENOY OK LANG MASKI DAGDAG-BAWAS?
      WHAT CAN YOU SAY INQUIRER?
      HYPOCRITES
      PITIFUL
      AHAHAHA

      • txtman

        YUNG FIGURE # 9
        DINAGDAGAN NG FIGURE # 8
        PARA MAGING 89
        DAGDAG-BAWAS
        ELECTION NA NGA
        SWS DAGDAG-BAWAS MODUS
        ANONG KLASENG REPORTER NG INQUIRER YAN?
        WALANG BRAIN
        BUTI PA ANG BALLPEN MAY HEAD
        AHAHAHA
        PITIFUL

      • txtman

        MALAMANG YUNG FIGURE #110
        BINAWASAN NG FIGURE # 0
        PARA MAGING 1 OUT OF 11
        CLASSIC DAGDAG-BAWAS
        ELECTION NA NGA
        WHAT IS AMZING IS MGA YELLOWS & INQUIRER
        TAHIMIK LANG SILA DITO SA DAGDAG-BAWAS
        MANINIWALA PA BA KAYO SA SWS?
        HELLO, GARCI, NASA SWS KA NA PALA
        AHAHAHAHA
        PITIFUL

    • txtman

      BUTI PA ANG BALLPEN MAY HEAD
      PERO MGA INQUIRER REPORTERS HINDI GINAGAMIT ANG BRAIN
      IMAGINE, NAGPAUTO SILA SA SWS DAGDAG-BAWAS MODUS?
      AHAHAHAHA
      OR BAKA NAMAN KASI KASABWAT SILA SA MODUS NA YAN?
      MR./MS. INQUIRER REPORTER/S MAGKANO BIGAY SA INYO?
      PITIFUL
      AHAHAHAHA

  • brunogiordano

    “Superficial
    Someone who is SUPERFICIAL hides what is inside. They act like someone they are not on the outside, so that no one can get close enough to see who they really are on the inside. The act of being SUPERFICIAL can also really just be being shallow.”

    Sino ang mas superficial ang mga FILIPINO ba o ang mga FILIPINOng PARI na DAMASO?????

  • InChristAlone_75

    Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has ascended into heaven, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess.

    For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet he did not sin.

    Let us then approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need – Hebrews 4:14-16

    • The Enforcer

      Use your own words! Dont hide behind quotes! Typical brainwashed Catholic!

  • marlo concepcion

    the priests know nothing. they’re wrong. we’re not losing faith to one GOD. we’re not going to evil doings just because we’re not attending mass. we’re losing faith on priests.

    pakielamero ang mga pari ngayon. they act as if they know it all, experienced it all, they’re 2nd to none, the hand of god, etc. but they’re not. they’re just people who act modest, who smiles to people a lot and looks holy. looks holy but there’s something hidden from within them. lahat naman di ba.

    bakit kasi sila umeepal sa politics. instead of teaching faith and preaching the word of GOD, they step on beyond their boundaries. the catholic is its own government. the pope as the leader, the priests as the people’s representatives per parish, and you have the community, called parishioners. that’s different from the state, the president, the mayor, the barangay captain, etc.

    if they could be meek, humble and just mind their own business, that hemorrhage he’s talking about would stop. epal kasi e.

    people are wise now. it’s not about religion but faith. inc, el shaddai, christian, born again, born against, atheist, whichever.. who cares. well i don’t. it’s all about you being good to others and to yourself.

    and jesus did not die on the cross. according to studies, no one dies on the cross for just hours. it usually takes days. jesus went on living with his uncle, joseph of arimethea, in india. continuing his prophetic career there. true? maybe.. but dying on the cross didn’t also have proof. so let me belive what i think is more logical.

    • InChristAlone_75

      “we’re losing faith on priests” – Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, whofor the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God -Hebrews 12:2

      “it’s all about you being good to others and to yourself” – As it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one;Romans 3:10

      “but dying on the cross didn’t also have proof. so let me belive what i think is more logical” – For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God – 1 Corinthians 1:18

      • taga_ilog

        that was a great selective reading of the bible, bro,

  • nes911

    Mabuti pa itong sila fr. Reyes at vengco, they see reality. The sws survey was actually a wake up call and not to demean the catholic church.

  • Stun Black

    Sa impyerno hindi boring. Araw-araw party.

  • Joseph St John

    We are mostly turned off by the abuses of priests molesting children especially in the U.S and instead being punished the abusive priests are just being assigned to other parishes.And of course we are also turned off by long,boring sermons or homilies.

    • teekaye2

      I would like to point out this molesting has been going on all over the world and more scandals are being revealed nearly every day. Thiis what. Christianity is supposed to reject not condone .

      • Crazy_horse101010

        especially europe where many victims killed themselves the pope saying im sorry didnt help them. that is why countries like holland lost 70 percent of its members.

    • ARIKUTIK

      If a faith can be turned off by silly reasons like boring sermon then it’s not faith at all. Faith comes from God not from human preachers. Any one who wish to believe in God let them believe. Anyone who rejects God, let them be. Any one who rejects RCC let it be for everyone is accountable for itself only. God will choose His own believers.
      Priest spread the word. Whoever believe will be accepted. Whoever do not believe, will be rejected too. Faith is belief with out reasons.

  • cato_the_younger

    I find it refreshing to find priests who are not in denial as for as the results of the survey goes. The priests are right, the same rituals does appear perfunctory – the reading from the liturgy fells like some sort of class recitation. Another central issue are the homilies – people want to listen to messages that speaks to them personally and are relevant to the struggles they face in life and their dreams and aspirations. Another issue is optics – especially when it comes to the so-called preferential option for the poor. Many bishops spend so much time socializing with the powers that be. As someone who used to attend RC services as a child, I still have fond memories of the German Jesuit who was assigned to our parish. He did not spend his time locked up in his convento – he walked around town almost everyday, asking people how they are, bantering with young people, etc. – in short someone who took his pastoral duties to heart. It also helps that Jesuits have a unique intellectual approach to faith and their sermons. When the Judiel Nieva brouhaha was at its height in Pangasinan, I can still remember our then priest, another Jesuit, saying in public “those people are deluded, the sun is not dancing, they are just burning their retinas”. And of course, it turned out that it was just a scam and millions of Filipino catholics became the world’s laughing stock. (Of course, Judiel Nieva had a himala of sorts – when it started, he was still a boy, now he is a woman, but I digress).

    • taga_ilog

      yes I remember that time, that was the problem with many of us, we were ready to believe anything without thinking. as long as it gives hope to our ever present wish for easy money.

  • speedstream2

    More than boring sermons and collections, the clergy and church leaders can look inward and ask themselves: are we true shining examples of what we proclaim? Simply put: mirror, mirror on the wall….

  • teekaye2

    Look to your Priests dont blame anything else you have lost all credibility

  • mangtom

    One thing I am 100% sure about is that there is, at least, ONE fool who listens and believes in the irrational rantings of this mercenary attack dog of CBCP, txt(woman)man and that person is, ladies and gentleman, for your information, txt(woman)man-pitiful(of sh!t).

  • Telecom Snooper Super

    Sa simula ng kasaysayan ng Pilipinas BORING na talaga ang mga sermon ng mga pari sa simbahang katoliko! Kaya ayaw na magsimba at lipat sa INC or other Christian or Islamic Church! Nadagdagan pa ng second collection nila para may pang-Capital either sa MahJong, Bar-hopping, horse racing ng mga pari!

  • Joel

    It was also St. Augustine who said, “Ignorance of Scripture is Ignorance of God.” Someone has said, Religion is natural but Christianity is supernatural. A person can be religious without knowing who God is. There’s a big difference in knowing Him and knowing about Him. Many people know ABOUT God but they don’t know Him personally, true relationship to HIM is misssing. No wonder when they worship it’s boring, no dunamis, it’s dead. Good news there is hope, for Faith to be vibrant again…preach the WORD of GOD, because man shall not live by bread alone. And faith comes from hearing and hearing by the Word of God! Remember what St. Augustine said? “Ignorance of Scripture is Ignorance of God.” God revealed Himself, his will, his plan, his mind, his purpose to human being in the Scripture.

  • Ommm

    I am turned off by our local church blaring music through loudspeakers at 5am… same boring music for years and years…we live a km away and can’t imagine being next door…. personally i find their method desperate and an imposition of their religion on others.

    This church wants to jolt people out of bed at 5am and expects they will come give them money??…this is the dream world they live in…..

  • tulfotumbong

    It’s only on Sunday homilies that I get to hear about the word of God and lessons as might be interpreted by RCC priests. The problem is most priests are just plain boring! They think that giving a long sermon can drive home certain points when in fact they just become redundant. Some just read a sermon that they have prepared without any eye contact or interaction with the mass goers. I have always believed that a homily with sufficient meaning can be delivered in 10 minutes or less. Beyond this the mind of an ordinary person wanders off. The fact is some priests seem not to mind how people react to them and do not take constructive criticism to be better shepherds of their flock.

  • bgcorg

    During this Year of Faith, we are invited to look inwardly to find out what we can do to make our faith be more alive, deepened, and shared. It is those rough edges we have to smoothen which should be the concern of all, not because of the personality of priests or second collections. Priests are human, too, and too few for the hundreds of thousands to be able to give more time (hopefully so) to prepare “interesting” sermons and collections are still voluntary. Second collections are for specific purposes, not to be used for petty personal matters, as anti-clerics rashly judge. In the Church, donations are still voluntary, not forced, as they happen in other denominations, while “love offerings” are passed around a number of times during the service.

    The key appears to be more involvement of the lay people at this day and age, who are exemplary and zealous in Christian practice; more meetings gathered around the Bible in small assemblies outside the parish church. In short, going to the flock more, taking ecclesial life more meaningfully to small Christian communities, now of street vendors, now of kasambahays, now of housewives in informal settler zones, now of palengke folks, groups of men, etc., etc., all to make “evangelization” more personal, intimate and more meaningful for the hundreds of thousands in a locality. In one sect’s practice, for example, once a family was found not to have been present in the week’s service, a group would come to visit the family. This practice is not found in the Catholic Church and tithing is not forced, although biblically sanctioned.

    The responsibility of living the faith is shared by the community of believers, not the monopoly of the pastors of the Church alone. “Lord, strengthen my unbelief.”

    • brunogiordano

      FAITH????

      Overused at gagas na sa gamit iyan ng mga SCAMMERS sa pangloloko ng mga GULIIBLE na tao.

      • bgcorg

        Not all people think as you do. The idea of life after death gives hope to many who are deemed gullible by people like you. Our prayer for you, as well as yours, should be: “Lord, help my unbelief.”

  • Guest

    I have no problem with these boring sermons, its when these priests start to talk politics that gets my goat.

    • txtman

      >>>>SWS DAGDAG-BAWAS MODUS <<<<
      972 X 9.2% = 89 people
      1200 (ghost respondets) x 81% (catholics daw) = 972 people
      972 (RC) x 1% (nonreligious catholics daw) = 9.72 people
      9.72 (nonreligious RC) x 57.3% (thinking of leaving minsan daw) = 4.86 people
      SO ALL IN ALL 9 PEOPLE LANG
      9 divided by 972 = 0.009 or 0.9%
      LESS THAN 1% LANG
      DRY-RUN PALA NG DAGDAG-BAWAS
      ELECTION NA NGA
      AHAHAHAHA
      AT ANG NAKAKATAWA, NAGPAUTO ANG INQUIRER & MGA YELLOW DOGS
      PITIFUL
      AHAHAHA

      • txtman

        YUNG FIGURE 9
        DINAGDAGAN NG FIGURE # 8
        KAYA NAGING 89
        CLASSIC DAGDAG-BAWAS
        ELECTION NA NGA
        MAGPAPAUTO PA BA KAYO SA SWS?
        AHAHAHA
        HELLO, GARCI NASA SWS KA NA PALA
        PITIFUL
        AHAHAHAHA

      • txtman

        MALAMANG YUNG FIGURE 110
        BINAWASAN NG FIGURE # O
        PARA MAGING 1 OUT OF 11
        CLASSIC DAGDAG BAWAS
        ELECTION NA NGA
        AHAHAHAHA
        WHAT IS MAZING IS, TAHIMIK LANG MGA YELLOW DOGS?
        NAGING GLORIA LOVER NA RIN PALA SILA
        AHAHAHAHA
        HELLO GARCI, NASA SWS KA NA PALA
        PITIFUL
        AHAHAHA

      • txtman

        SABI NG MGA YELLOW DOGS:
        “HINDI BALE NA MAY DAGDAG-BAWAS AS LONG AS KAY PENOY”
        .
        SABI NAMAN NG MGA IBANG SECTA:
        “DI BALE NA MAY DAGDAG-BAWAS, PAGKAKATAON NA NATIN SIRAAN ANG CATHOLIC CHURCH PARA MADAMI TAYO MAUUTO & DADAMI MAGBIBIGAY PERA SA ATIN.”
        .
        SABI NAMAN NG MGA ATHEISTS/LEFTISTS
        “DI BALE NA MAY DAGDAG-BAWAS, PAGKAKATAON NA NATIN SIRAAN ANG CATHOLIC CHURCH PARA MAIPROMOTE KABABOYAN SA PINAS. KASI CATHOLIC CHURCH NA LANG KUMUKONTRA SA ATIN.”
        .
        SABI NAMAN NG MGA CORRUPT REPORTERS:
        “OK LANG YAN DAGDAG-BAWAS, TAYO NAMAN ANG NAGPAPAIKOT SA MGA MAMAMAYAN. ”
        “KACHING-KACHING!”
        .
        PITIFUL
        AHAHAHAHA

      • AntiAko

        Go ahead and justify all you want…. Better yet, do your own survey!

      • txtman

        INENG, SWS DID A VERY GRAVE CONDUCT

        DAGDAG-BAWAS MODUS
        CAN YOU IMAGINE PATI PAGSESERMON NG CATHOLICS NATIONAL NEWS NA?
        ABA, EH GUSTO KO DIN MADINIG SERMON NG MGA MUSLIM
        .
        WHY NOT DO A SURVEY OF THESE SURVEY ORG
        TO FIND OUT HOW ACCURATE THEIR SURVEYS
        PITIFUL
        AHAHAHA

      • lex

        Di hamak na totoo ang SWS kaysa sayo. MAGPAKILALA ka nga! Pag pabor sayo ang survey , tama ang SWS. Pag masakit nakatotohanan ang resulta, mali ang SWS. Untog mo na lang ulo mo sa pader para matauhan ka!

    • UrHONOR

      So, how many do you have now? :)

      • txtman

        >>INQUIRER & SWS DAGDAG BAWAS MODUS? <<<<<
        BAKIT KAYA TAHIMIK ANG INQUIRER SA DAGDAG-BAWAS NG SWS?
        DID INQUIRER CONIVED WITH SWS DAGDAG-BAWAS MODUS?
        YOUR GUESS IS AS GOOD AS MINE
        AHAHAHAHA
        DAGDAG-BAWAS IS HERE TO STAY
        HELLO, GARCI, NASA SWS KA NA PALA
        PITIFUL
        AHAHAHAHA

      • txtman

        KALA MO MATINO ANG INQUIRER
        YUN PALA, TODO SUPPORT(?????) DIN PALA SILA
        SA SWS DAGDAG-BAWAS MODUS
        IMAGINE TAHIMIK SILA SA SWS DAGDAG-BAWAS MODUS
        AT HINDI LANG TAHIMIK, KINAKAMPIHAN PA
        AHAHAHAHA
        ANO NA LANG KAYA SA ELECTION?
        INQUIRER IS ACTING LIKE A YELLOW LAPDOG
        DAGDAG-BAWAS IS HERE TO STAY
        WHAT CAN YOU SAY INQUIRER?
        SPEAKING OF HYPOCRISY, ANO?
        AHAHAHA
        PITIFUL

    • slim6744

      I absolutely agree with you……the Catholic Church should NEVER…..meddle in the affairs of POLITICS. We in the Philippines…..RECOGNIZE….the SEPARATION of CHURCH and STATE! The Church EXISTS…only to remind Catholics that the BIBLE exists as the TRUE word of GOD. READ your BIBLE, and don’t listen to those POLITICAL PRONOUNCEMENTS of those priests!

      The BIBLE as the TRUE word of GOD, has NEVER encouraged the RELIGIOUS Messengers of GOD….to engage in POLITICS, and who to VOTE for.

      This is the True SEPARATION of CHURCH and STATE….as it should be. In a truly DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY.

  • Julius_Caesar1

    I have no problem with these boring sermons. Its when these Damaso’s start to talk politics that turns me off.

    The only thing I hate about being a Catholic is the politics.

  • NAGMAMARUNONG

    Fr. Reyes, baka mag-away kayo ni Bishop Cruz.

  • tra6Gpeche

    Sermon should not be boring, at all, for the Filipino Catholics. If you are inside the Catholic Church, you are not supposed to use logic or analyze the sermon of the Priest. Otherwise, you are not using faith! If one is using logic or analytical thinking when inside the Church, then one must not listen to the sermon!

    • Jomex

      exactly you hit the point! thats why religion is dangerous. it discourages critical thinking. if god is real, god gave you the brain to use for thinking. now it would not be wrong to use what he gave you in the first place. its counter intuitive if you get my point. now following your point that religion not supposed to teach you to use your logic and reasoning, then religion can teach you anything and let you believe anything without questions. which is dangeous. faith can let you beleive in talking snake, world created in 6 days, sin, hell, adam and eve, etc. etc. faith is believing in things which have no relation in reality. it is just an invention of the mind. faith is gullibility.

      • tra6Gpeche

        Amen, kabayan!

    • TheHappyAgnostic

      i give you five points for that. (no sarcasm, but i am amused)

      • tra6Gpeche

        I will humbly take it, kabayan!

  • mad_as_Hamlet

    * * * * *

    Even ex-Pope Benedict XVI has stopped attending masses.

  • Crazy_horse101010

    im confused first they say the poll was a lie now they are offering excuses why they are losing members if your not losing members then you dont need excuses

  • tagasugod

    It’s the priests. Our parish priest says his homilies mechanically,as if it is an ordinary job to be done, listless and lacking in passion. He’s overly interested in collecting funds for the building of our prayer house, not our faith, not our church.

  • bayankopdi

    IT IS NOT IMPORTANT IF THE NUMBER OF CATHOLICS IS DWINDLING, WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT IS PEOPLE WHO WORSHIP AND BELIEVE IN GOD IS NOT DWINDLING.

  • Jomex

    Its not just the pedophile priests or the exorbitant second collections thats the problem; it is also mostly the control of religion and the cognitive dissonance about the existence of god thats having the most effect on why people leave religion.

    everytime Bishops and priests say the homilies and talk to the media, they always treat people like children for not following them. they scold people for being “superficial catholics”. its telling people that they are not worthy and incomplete because they dont have enough faith. its always telling people that they are wayward children for not calling on god. its always the bishops and priests that are always good. its the treatment that people are innately sinful thats the problem. for once treat the people with respect. we atheists believe that people are reasonable and good people in the first place. while most people were heavily indoctrinated from childhood where they were taught that are they flawed, sinful and corrupted creatures.

    cognitive dissonance plays a role why people leave religion. people cannot reconcile reality with their belief in a god. for example, how can a good god allow suffering of many people? hell is used as a tactic to scare people into believing god. but there’s no proof of hell and heaven either. its a circus! religion plays on the fears and dreams of men. religion uses an invisible and unfalsifiable entity called god as a marketing tool. one wonders how these bishops and priests get to know the mind of god.

    • Dax Cogitlog

      Good!!!

      • Jomex

        thank bro!

  • InChristAlone_75

    What Catechism teaches:

    “The mass is the sacrifice of the new law in which Christ, through the Ministry of the priest, offers himself to God in an unbloody manner under the appearances of bread and wine. The mass is the sacrifice of Christ offered in a sacramental manner…the reality is the same but the appearances differ.” New Saint Joseph Baltimore Catechism, vol 2, question 35.

    What the Bible says:

    Therefore, when Christ came into
    the world, he said:

    “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,but a body you prepared for me; with burnt offerings and sin offerings you were not pleased. Then I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll— I have come to do your will, my God.’”

    First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them”—though they were offered in accordance with the law. Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second. And by that will, we have been made holy through
    the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. – Hebrews 10:5:10

  • divictes

    Of course, it is boring! I wouldn’t want to spend the afterlife sitting on a cloud plucking the lyre. I want the loudest fuzz guitar! Hmm, on the other hand the offer of 72 virgins is most tempting, but I’ll settle for 20 “slutty women who know what they are doing”.

    • marionics

      oo nga naman. virgin e tututruan mo pa. gusto ko rin yung mahusay na at gumigiling at ang galing sumubo hahaha

  • InChristAlone_75

    Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins.

    But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, and since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool.

    For by ONE SACRIFICE he has made perfect forever
    those who are being made holy – Hebrews 10:11:14

    • The Enforcer

      Please use real words from your own head!!!!

      • InChristAlone_75

        My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, so that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on God’s power – 1 Corinthians 2:4-5

    • Jomex

      Gale: What if they did it? Just one year. What everyone just stopped watching.
      Katniss: They won’t Gale
      Gale: What if they did? What if we did?
      Katniss: It won’t happen.
      Gale: You route for your favourites, you cry when they get killed it’s sick!
      Katniss: Gale.
      Gale: If no one watches, then they don’t have a game. It’s as simple as that.
      What?
      Katniss: Nothing,
      Gale: Fine laugh at me
      Katniss: I’m not laughing at you
      Gale: We could do it you know. Take off, live in the woods, it’s what we do anyway.
      Katniss: They’d catch us.
      Gale: Well, maybe not.
      Katniss: Cut out our tongues or worse.
      We wouldn’t make it five miles.
      Gale: No, I’d get five miles. I’d go that way. [Gale points to the woods]
      Katniss: I have Prim and you have your brothers.
      Gale: They can come too.
      Katniss: Prim in the woods?
      Gale: ha, maybe not…
      Katniss: I’m never having kids.
      Gale: I might. If I didn’t live here…
      Katniss: But you do live here.
      Gale: I know, but if I didn’t
      Oh I forgot. Here, (Gale pulls out a bread roll and hands it to Katniss)
      Katniss: Oh my god!
      Is this real?
      Gale: Yeah, it better be!
      Cost me a squirrel.
      Happy hunger games!
      Katniss: And may the odds be ever in your favour.
      How many times is your name in today?
      Gale: forty two.
      I guess the odds aren’t exactly in my favour.

      — HUNGER GAMES Scene 6

      • InChristAlone_75

        Answer a fool according to his folly, or he will be wise in his own eyes.
        Proverbs 26:5

  • InChristAlone_75

    Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his body, and since we have a great priest over the house of God, let us draw near to God with a sincere heart and with the full assurance that faith brings, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water. Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful – Hebrews 10:14.

    • The Enforcer

      Do you HAVE THOUGHTS OF YOUR VERY OWN???

    • Jomex

      McGonagall: Albus, do you really think its safe, leaving him with these people? I’ve been watching them all day. They’re the worst sort of Muggles imaginable. They really are

      Dumbledore: The only family he has.

      They stop outside a house.

      McGonagall: This boy will be famous. There wont be a child in our world who doesn’t know his name.

      Dumbledore: Exactly. He’s better off growing up away from all that. Until he is ready.

      Hagrid coughs and sniffles, he is crying. He clears his throat.

      Dumbledore: There, there, Hagrid. It’s not really good-bye, after all.

      Hagrid nods. Dumbledore takes a letter and places it on the baby, who is now at the foot of the door. The baby has a visible lightning-bolt shaped scar on his
      forehead.

      Dumbledore: Good luck…Harry Potter.
      —HARRY POTTER Scene 1: Act 1

      • InChristAlone_75

        Do you see a person wise in their own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for them. Proverbs 26:12

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000923389289 David Bobir

        hahaha…very good. What did he say? He said blessed are the meek. Ah that’s good, they’ve had a hell of a time of it lately. Monty Pythons Life of Brian

  • g.s.

    txtman please follow your post, nobody likes your post. so stop because if you are not ashamed, I am ashamed for you. Baka ikaw ang palaging inutusan para sa second collections. heheheh

  • Fulpol

    hear a mass from an American priest.. better than his Pilipino counterpart..

    Pilipinos priests always inject politics in their homilies.. typical mentality of Pilipinos.. if not showbiz, Pilipinos love to talk politics.. and Pilipinos love to judge, to criticize… Pilipino priests sermons and homilies are reflections of typical Pilipino psyche…

  • Jomex

    If god is real and he exists, we would not need to gather every Sunday to confirm that “God exist”. Religion is a money making machine, plus its a way to scare people from hell. Scientists dont gather around every Sunday and hold hands and chant “gravity is real”. They dont have to do that. Religion and faith belongs to the infancy of our species. It is time we get rid of it. We need more reason and science.

    • InChristAlone_75

      As the Scriptures say,

      “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise
      and discard the intelligence of the intelligent.”

      So where does this leave the philosophers, the scholars, and the world’s
      brilliant debaters? God has made the wisdom of this world look foolish.

      Since God in his wisdom saw to it that the world would never know him through
      human wisdom, he has used our foolish preaching to save those who
      believe. 1 COR 19-21

  • beboergosum

    Should be a wake up call for priests and the religious instead of being defensive about it. Although, the real intentions of the survey and media flaunting are suspect.

  • 711sense

    Next to the boring homily conducted by boring priests, and compared to other churches I have attended over the years, one of the reason why I lose interest in attending a catholic mass is the way a church welcomes their flock specially the new ones. Some priests does not even go to the front door to greet churchgoers when they arrive and leave. Some Parish build recreation hall using the parish’s money but yet charge (the call it donation) the parish members a lot of money. Also, my biggest beef was that, I like to bring my family to church early enough to get a sit inthe first two rows, One sunday morning, I was angry when I was told by one of the church helper to move my family some place because the seats we were in is reserve for Knights of Columbus members but when I looked around there was no sign indicating that the seats were reserved. Anyway, that was the last time I brought my family to the same church we have been religiously going for about 12 yrs or so. The catholic church heirarchy should attend other church services of other denominations to learn why they are flourishing while the catholic churchgoers are declining. That’s one major way of finding why and make changes as necessary. Otherwise, the catholic churchgoers will continue to decline while others flourish as the years go by.

  • Flugie

    I think that boring sermons play only a small part of the problem. “Lack of substance” I think is the bigger part of the problem. I’ve been to services where the priests adds jokes to the sermon – and sometimes an occasional song and dance – to make it, well, less boring. But if one takes away the jokes and theatrics, the sermon had no clear, meaningful and educational message that made attendees listen then think. Sometimes, it just delivered the same message. So, parishoners could be like “dohhh…..tell us something what we hadn’t heard before”. I’ve also attended services wherein the priest delivered the sermon in a boring monotone but his sermon had substance to it. Boring as heck but it the sermon had meat in it, not just air.

    I think that in order for the Catholic Church to stem this tide, they should teach priests the art of speaking and effective delivery of, well, a presentation/talk so that when they do deliver a sermon, it won’t only be entertaining but would make the parishioners listen and think (on what has been delivered) afterwards.

  • mapicchu

    the problem is priests have not evolved into modern times..they still believe that whatever they say will be accepted by churchgoers, hook line and sinker…not any more padres…you have to grow with the times. people nowadays tend to question what you say. they lose interest when you talk about politics. your pastoral letters are not even appropriate to be read during sermon time. train would-be priests in sermonology. and do it fast. you’re losing many wanna-be faithful members.

  • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

    Greek gods are more badass!!!

  • pilipino_ako6

    When a church is full, it does not mean that numbers have not dwindled. The comparison was based from the year 1991. Since then, the population has multiplied many times over. If the churchgoers increased proportionately, much more churches would have to be built to accommodate them. The major ones are centuries old. One hardly sees churches as huge as those being built anymore. Yes most homilies are boring. It is my faith and the desire to attend mass that makes me stay. And sadly, not the priests. I don’t mind long homilies so long as the content is relevant. Although a priest friend jokingly said, “A homily which takes more than 10 mins. Is no longer a homily, it is a sermon!” If our priests/bishops will follow Pope Francis’ simplicity, humility and love for the poor, more major churches will have to be built.

  • boybakal

    There is no such thing as boring sermons.
    Words of God is no boredom, it is always holy no matter how it is delivered or preached.
    It is the psalms and verses and not the singer.

    Father Reyes is the one boring, he is bored being a priest.
    Instead of spreading the words of God, he is always running away from God.

  • kontra_boohaya

    I am a practicing catholic but one of the factors I see the lack of interaction between the priests and parishoners. Church goers don’t even know and learn the proper responses because of that one lector on the mic doing all the responses
    (parang robot lang ang nagsisimba). Choir, KofC, and other church groups have their own section in the church only widens the class gap. Combine that with arrogant, uncharismatic and condescending priests (most priests I know are so out of touch, unless you are monied), it appears that there is class discrimination within. For many, it’s such a turn off, especially when you find your priests in less than holy places doing unholy things. For me though, I could care less what I see in the priests outside of their churches as long as they nurture my spiritual well being on Sundays and during confessions. Lastly, meddling into the political affairs of the towns or state, the lack of financial transparency, lack of the church’s efforts to reach out and educate the faithful about their faith, their rights, the ceremonies, and the church’s teachings as a whole are the straws that break the camel’s back for some. Basta ako magsisimba ako kung saan ako mas comportable, mas at peace and not necessarily the one closest to my home.

    • $46804224

      …its good for someone like you who can discern the difference between a set of belief and the people who are tasked to propagate the belief. others are not as discerning as you. if you seriously look at the way church leaders behave today, it is just a reflection of how society relate to leaders and how leaders deal (hmm respect) the rest of the community. and it is in a very sad state— because i expect more from priest and church leaders. again i pity those who are true to their calling. priest in the philippines have a lot of humble pie to eat if they are compared to pope francis…

  • alex_diaz2014

    Second collections have been the general rule, in fact, I don’t remember attending any mass without second collection…

  • 2rey3

    Why center on Catholic Church only? Protestants were former Catholics and new Christian groups were former protestants and so therefore what is new? The important thing is you found the truth and you stick to it by living it meaning faithfulness.

  • romeyo chill

    Right, every priest should sound like Bo Snachez. That’s the ideal way to preach. :)

  • Jomex

    who cares if the homilies are boring or not? the message itself is horrendous. take Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross for example. it is believed by Christians that his sacrifice takes away the sins of the world. the sin we are talking about is the original sin by adam and eve, who by the way does not exist. so if adam and eve are not real people and the talking snake and the garden of eden are not real too, then the concept of original sin is false, not real, an illusion. original sin is an invention of christianity then. so if there is no original sin, there is no reason for Jesus to die for our sin. Jesus did not asks you and me to die for my sins. why would he be so arrogant as to assume that I have a sin in the first place? the concept of jesus sacrifice on the cross is well known in the time even before jesus, it is called scapegoating where the sins of the person is passed on the goat then the goat is left to die in the harsh desert of the middle east. but this practice is so archaic and crude that even today it is no longer practiced by civilized people. but this is what Jesus did to us. morality is founded among other things on responsibility. if I commit an offense like stealing for example, then I must suffer for it. i take responsbility for the crime committed by me. so the act of Jesus taking away my responsiblity for the crime is immoral.

    • buttones

      I think this tale of Adam and Eve is just that, a tale, and remember at the time the vast majority of people were illiterate. I do like the tale of Pandora [another myth] who with her box of all the worlds ills, and as a Goddess came to visit us mere mortals, and left the box and the key with her husband with strict instructions NEVER to open the box. Well, you know what men are, he opened the box and all the human conditions flooded over the world, jealousy, hatred, war, love I mean you name it and the only thing that remained in the box was ’hope’ which did not escape, And which is what we live on to this very day……

      • marionics

        A particularly interesting theory that was brought up by the Woman’s Bible Commentary was: “What if one notices that the snake does not lie to the woman but speaks the truth when it says the consequence of eating from the forbidden tree is gaining the capacity to distinguish good from evil…” (Newsom p. 14). This theory of the serpent persuading Eve to disobey God by using the truth adds a different perspective to the entire theme behind the Fall. If Eve was not “deceived” with lies from the serpent, then was the serpent’s motive truly “evil’?

        The sentiment that people who read the Bible often feel is that Eve is blamed for the downfall of man in the Garden. Genesis 3:12 states “The man said, “The woman whom you gave to be with me, she gave me the fruit from the tree, and I ate it.” This statement indirectly blames the eating of the forbidden fruit on Eve, and also indirectly describes her as an object that Adam has in his possession. There is no follow up in the scriptures stating why Adam decided to eat the fruit even though he knew which tree it came from. After Adam accused Eve of being the reason that he ate the fruit, God then asks Eve “What is this that you have done?” (Genesis 3:13). Adam’s placement of blame on Eve seems to be sufficient to the Lord, and then the Lord turns to Eve to find out why she disobeyed him. There is no further inquisition by God to Adam as to why he followed through with eating the forbidden fruit when he knew where it came from. It should not matter who initiated the fruit-eating, but more so the fact that Adam and Eve both consensually ate the fruit which they were instructed not to eat by God.

      • jpeter262

        Illiterate people cannot build the Pyramid of Egypt. Even
        without the modern tech they managed to do it.

        King Solomon is the wisest man ever lived.

      • buttones

        Well you have a point but I suspect the people who designed the pyramids of Egypt, who supervised the building of them were the literate ones, the thousands who carved the stone blocks and put them in place were illiterate, but very good at their craft, same with the magnificent cathedrals of Europe, the temples of Greece, India, Cambodia and of Rome, the Great Wall of China. If you’ve ever seen some of these things you just have to stand in awe at how the did it, with primitive tools, and no electricity!

      • jpeter262

        At list you agree with me this time.

        I can also add that they have a different ways of measuring literacy to that of our modern age. Our children got more literacy in computer
        games than us with only a gap of 2 to 3 decades.

      • buttones

        Very true regarding computer literacy, but I was rather more using the word literate in the sense of being able to read and write, which is where the priests of most religions had the edge in the old days – they could and the congregation couldn’t, so what the priest said was literally ’gospel truth’. In the end of course it was those very priests that actually expanded education to the masses who learned to read and write, and ask questions as well….

        On the subject of this survey, I think it’s probably true, some priests are explaining why and some are denying the result is true- which is odd…one way or another the Church has to face the truth.

      • jpeter262

        As far as the Gospel Truth is concern, Jesus Christ preached the Gospel of the Kingdom of God and explaining what was revealed by the prophets and those written in the Old Testament. Jesus Christ came here on earth as a Son of Man for that purpose. The educated, the Scribes, Pharisees and Sadducees works contrary to His teaching, to the point that they initiated His death on the cross by the Romans.

        It is hard to judge which one is more literate. After about 2,000 yrs from Jesus Christ ministry, one thing is sure, there are only few Ministers preaching the true Gospel that Jesus Christ Himself and the Apostles preached. There are only few, little flock, who understand and are doing it. Never heard the Catholic preaching the True Gospel.

        The survey about the Catholic can be expected.

    • jpeter262

      Jesus Christ died on the cross to save us from the penalty of death.

      Death is the penalty of sinners.

      Sin is a transgression of the law.

      All sin except Jesus Christ.

  • teraytaray

    I am not a regular churchgoer, but I always go to churches where Priests give good sermons. For me a good sermon is current, it should be understood by all, jokes is a plus. I don’t really mind the second collections, it’s voluntary anyway, unlike the others. And in fairness, most of the Catholic priests that I met are not that extreme. You know, the kind where they will say, only Catholics will go to heaven and the rest will go to hell.

  • Nitsog

    Another factor is the Catholic’s strong opposition to the RH bill. People knew the real intent of the Catholic is to let the people become poorer.

  • Horst Manure

    Looks like a lot are waking up to the scam.

  • intsikbeho

    someone please answer this question.

    what has the catholic church done for you?

    what has the catholic church done for the poor filipinos, the squaters, the homeless, the taong grasa, the street kids, the sick, the desperate, the OFWs with problems far beyond their reach, the farmers, the uneducated…

    • buttones

      Well the RCC endowed in me a sense of guilt, a worthless sinner complex from being a little child, but they did say that if I gave them some money my ‘sins’ would simply vanish….after all this time I’m still trying to figure out what my sins are…Does this help?

      • marionics

        good thing i was never catholic pala hahaha

      • Crazy_horse101010

        to much stress hahaha

      • marionics

        nope, my family i grew up in is not catholic so i never learned any catholic stuff, at all. i don’t know any of those catecisms or rosaries or whatever

      • doncleo

        yari ka..sa impyerno ka daw sabi ni Padre Damaso..LOL!!!

      • marionics

        oo nga. woe is me

      • intsikbeho

        and we are expected to teach the same to our children and subject them with the same innocence bending narrow mindedness.

    • Crazy_horse101010

      they do nothing here in the boonies where i live except to aak for double donations and rant about birth control they even admit they dont help the poor

  • Bisaya

    RC is not the problem. it’s that Pinoys are so into religion that they become self-righteous and intolerant of others. taken literally, religion provides us a basis to hate others. all the hideous crime would look pale in comparison with religious wars. can we not be a citizen that is not religious centric? can we not be a people with good morals without going gaga over religion? religion is still important, but when it becomes the most important aspect of your life it transform into fanaticism and cultic behaviour – like some of the comments here. peace!

    • doncleo

      the best comment i ever read here…

  • iping2sison

    I agree that most priests’ are not good preachers. Most sermons are Bible-based story telling and really boring. I guess that priests, unlike charismatic leader Mike Velarde, have no real-life experiences. They do not understand the difficulties faced by their parishioners to live daily. Likewise, they cannot interpret the Bible in actual life situations and thus unable to connect with their listeners.

  • buttones

    Maybe the RCC should introduce a bit of ‘show biz’ singers and a band for a start, like the Baptists in the US Southern States? Or the Evangelists whose pastors ’heal’ people in front of millions on their own TV station? Yes, the RCC should invest in it’s own TV station, a bit like BBC but without the news…They could have religious soap operas, re runs of The Greatest Story Ever Told, I’m not denigrating the religion but with a billion strong I think they need a marketing guy, they have a wonderful product they should get their act together. They could do endorsements on certain products for a fee, [shut up buttones] they could sell copies of the Bible signed by the Pope, offer private viewings and escorted tours of the Vatican, [Shut UP buttones!] They could commission statues of Christ that glow in the dark [SHUT THE F*** UP buttones!] They could… [I’m WARNING you buttones!] Sorry that was my doppelganger ranting on [again] it was just a idea……

    • panhase

      Hahahahaha
      Thank you so much. Seems you do have a real problem in controlling your doppelgänger.

      After 4 weeks I am back in Europe and I thought all is grey, no sunshine as there was in the Philippines. But now I read you comments and the days are bright again.

      • buttones

        Don’t worry, spring is coming to Europe! Looking at the weather, I’m not just too sure when!

      • panhase

        Spring is starting right now, sun is shining, 18 degrees at the moment.

        Since you are so great at predicting, would you please be so kind to tell me the numbers in the next lotto draw?

  • krizzibarra

    problem is plain old simple obsolesence.

  • kilabot

    yes.
    but the real reason is
    man gratifies the lu$t of the flesh
    than the hunger of the spirit;
    “the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.” – perverts plagiarizing the bible.

  • siegfeil

    Homilies of priests should be relevant to current time. 2nd collections is really disgusting. These are all man made, it is not about Catholicism per se.

  • $44479964

    Sermon is a medieval way of teaching/explaining the faithful about the tenets of faith. We are now in the 21st century. If only they could embrace the new media that appeal to today’s faithful.

  • $14334231

    amen…amen….amen to that……you nailed the problems, msgr. vengco and fr. reyes….

  • Andrei Mendoza

    Thank god, He made me atheist!

    • panhase

      hahaha, a good one

  • Andrei Mendoza

    Lets all de-convert!

    start read the bible! and in a week you will be an atheist!

  • Josemaria Lazaro Errazuriz-For

    I think the Church needs to tap the Potential of Some Religious Orders,who are Known to do “Parish Missions” which is a combination of mission and retreat ministries oriented to Lukewarm Parishioners,so as to bring back lapsed and Former Catholics.

  • elpobre

    Atheists

    Religion has aided the cause of the
    new atheists, as people have become fed up with the religious extremism,
    terrorism, and conflict plaguing the world. “Religion poisons everything,” says
    one leading atheist. Moreover, that ‘poison’ is said to include religious
    beliefs in general, not just extremist views. Core dogmas, say the new
    atheists, must be exposed, abandoned, and replaced by rationality and reason.
    People must be unafraid to speak frankly about the “mountains of
    life-destroying gibberish” found in the Bible and the Koran, writes atheist Sam
    Harris. “We can no longer afford the luxury of . . . political
    correctness.”

    THE new atheists envision a world
    with no religion—no suicide bombers, no religious wars, and no televangelists
    fleecing their flocks. Does that vision appeal to you?

    Before answering, ask yourself this,
    ‘Is there any evidence that universal atheism would lead to a better world?’
    Consider: As many as 1.5 million Cambodians died in the Khmer Rouge effort
    to establish a godless Marxist state. And in the officially atheistic USSR,
    Joseph Stalin’s rule resulted in tens of millions of deaths. Granted, those
    evils cannot be directly attributed to atheism. But they do show that the rule
    of atheism does not ensure peace and harmony.

    Few would deny that religion has
    caused much suffering. But is God at fault? No! He is no more at fault than a
    car manufacturer would be for an accident caused by a driver using a cell
    phone. Mankind’s suffering has many causes, one of which is more fundamental
    than beliefs. The Bible identifies it as inherent imperfection. “All have
    sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” (Romans 3:23) This sinful inclination tends to
    foster selfishness, undue pride, a desire for moral independence, and violence.
    (Genesis 8:21) It also causes people to
    rationalize and to gravitate toward beliefs that excuse wrongdoing. (Romans 1:24-27) Jesus Christ rightly said: “Out
    of the heart come wicked reasonings, murders, adulteries, fornications,
    thieveries, false testimonies, blasphemies.”—Matthew 15:19.

    GOD’S VIEW OF RELIGIOUS ATROCITIES

    The land given to ancient Israel was
    inhabited by Canaanites, a depraved people who practiced sexual
    immorality—including incest, sodomy, and bestiality—as well as ritual child
    sacrifice. (Leviticus
    18:2-27) The book Archaeology and the Old Testament
    states that excavations “have uncovered piles of ashes and remains of infant
    skeletons in cemeteries around heathen altars, pointing to the widespread
    practice of [child sacrifice].” The Canaanites would worship their gods through
    immoral indulgence and also sacrifice their firstborn to the same gods, says a
    Bible handbook. It adds: “Archaeologists who dig in the ruins of Canaanite cities
    wonder that God did not destroy them sooner than he did.”

    God’s destruction of the Canaanites is a
    sober reminder for us today that he will not forever put up with evil
    perpetrated in his name. “[God] has set a day in which he purposes to judge the
    inhabited earth in righteousness,” says Acts 17:31.

    • Jomex

      FAIL arguments! First, atheism is a position on a single issue: whether God exists or not. Since theists fail to provide evidence of God, we atheists find no good reason to believe. That’s it. No more. NADA! Atheism is just the lack of belief in god. Period. The problem with your arguments above is that you ATTACH a lot of things on atheism. You attach evil, crime, immorality to atheism. Its a propaganda! The question now is how do you arrive from atheism to these things you mention. You mentioned “rule of atheism”. What is that? There is no such thing. You, like the other theists here, fall into the same old arguments that Stalin, Mao, Polpot did their genocide because of atheism. This propaganda is perpetuated by religious leaders to scare people of atheism. You mislabel a group of people and tell everyone they are bad. Yes Stalin was atheist later in his life, but he started in his youth as a seminarian to become a priest.. So where did he get his ideas from? Yes Stalin was an atheist but he did not do his crimes because he was atheist, BUT because he was such a bad person. Your argument that bad people are atheists and atheists are bad people does not hold water.

      Now what about Hitler? Hitler was a catholic. He wrote in Mein Kamfp “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” Now from this writing, it is clear that Hitler took his inspiration from Catholic church. His pogrom against the Jews led to the Holocaust. In fact, his Concordat with the Vatican ensured that Germany will get Catholic education.

      Atheists are good without god. No amount of propaganda can take this away. We atheists use reason and science and scepticism as one of the tools in our life. Evidence is crucial to our search for truth in reality. In fact there are no society that suffer because of too much use of reason. Atheists champion freedom, equality, secularism. We are proud to include in our company Spinoza, Democritus, Carl Sagan, Jefferson, Einstein, Voltaire, Hume, Bertrand Russell, Daniel Radcliffe, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Brad Pitt, Bill Gates, and Facebook owner Mark Zuckerberg, just to name a few.

  • henri_see

    Atheism is a religion, too.
    Look at its many preachers in this comments section!

    • Jomex

      Not collecting stamps is a hobby too.

  • elmersvd

    Firstly, I think the problem is that Catholics in the Philippines focus on pietistic devotions like rosaries, novenas, masses and other devotions, while those themselves are not bad, but they lack the deeper theology and catechism behind these devotions. There are not a lot of formation among the laity. Most people would just go to church as a kind of obligation then leave as if nothing happens. And priests who are not living examples of the values of Christ are not helping the situation. If people can’t get thing good out of the mass like a good homily, there would be no necessity why they should go there at all.

  • Eric

    Better look in the mirror first Robert Reyes. I once considered myself a religious Catholic but when you took over as parish priest in our area, it led me to question my beliefs in your church. Im still a Christian but is no longer swayed by the actions and advice of the Catholic church. Im not the only one. Stop dabbling into politics, stop meddling into the people’s private lives, give back to the people what you have taken. Just look at your parish in UPD. You literally created a zoo filled with exotic animals, fenced off the chapel area that was otherwise open to the public who may seek shelter, spent hundreds of thousands for a mural, sculptures, and landscaping, kicked out the family of a caretaker who lived there for years, took over a common area that was free for everyone’s use and then charging anyone who would like to use it. We needed a spiritual advisor, not a self righteous dictator as our leader. I’m just glad that you’re no longer the parish priest in our area. No, it’s not about boring sermons and second collections. It’s how you priests lead by example.

  • Filpino

    akoy isang aktibong katoliko, ibig sabihin di lang
    ako tuwing linggo nakikita sa simbahan kundi sumali pa ako sa mga organisasyon
    ng simbahan tulad ng CFC, PREX, Marriage encounter, EMHC.

    Tulad ng nakararaming katoliko marami rin akong mga katanungan tungkol sa gawi
    ng mga katoliko, tulad ng;

    1. Mga imahe at Krus
    2. Pakikialam ng mga Pari o simbahan sa pulitika
    3. Bakit di ko kabisado ang mga talata sa biblya
    4. Pangre rape ng mga pari
    5. Totoo ba ang gawi ng mga katoliko sa pagsamba sa Diyos.

    Ang Lahat ng ito ay nabigyan ko ng kasagutan dahil na rin sa sarili kong
    pagsasaliksik at sa taimtim na panalangin. Minsan naisip ko narin na umanib sa
    ibang kristianong relihiyon, pero sa mataman kong pagsasaliksik ito ang mga
    natuklasan ko;

    -Na iisa lamang ang Diyos wala ng nauna at wala ng susunod pa.

    Sa mga katoliko, si Kristo ay tunay na Diyos, ang Holy Spirit ay Tunay na Diyos
    ang Diyos Ama ay Tunay na Diyos. Iisa ang Diyos na pinaniniwalaan ng mga
    katoliko na may tatlong persona.

    Sa Dating Daan ni Bro. Elie, ang paniniwala nila ay marami ang Diyos. Si kristo
    ay Diyos din na sa paniniwala nila ay unang nilikha ng Diyos ama. Kung baga
    mababa si kristo sa Diyos ama sa pagiging Diyos.

    Ang INC ni manalo ay naniniwalang Panginoon si kristo pero tao sya ayon sa turo nila.

    Kung si jesus ay hindi Diyos nagkakasala tayo na mga kristiano kasi nasa biblya na nangmakita si Jesus ng ,mga pantas ay lumuhod sila at sinamba si Jesus. Tunay na Diyos lang ang dapat sambahin.

    Kung si Jesus ay iba ang pagkaDiyos sa Diyos Ama, nagkakasala parin tayo dahil nasa unang utos na iisa lamang ang Diyos.

    -Sa pakikialam ng simbahan sa usaping pulitikal, dapat siguro natin aralin nang ang Panginoong jesus ay nasa lupa. Hindi magkahiwalay ang usaping politikal at relihiyon noong mga panahong iyon. Magkarugtong ang dalawang ito. Kung ang pari ay magsermon tungkol sa pag-ibig sa kapwa at paglabas nya ng simbahan ay makita nya ang isang tao na ginugulpi hindi ba nya tutulungan ang nagulpi at pagsabihan ang nanggulpi dahil nasa labas naman na sya ng simbahan. Mahirap ipangarap ang salita ng Diyos sa gitna ng kaguluhan at wala kang ginagawa para maging payapa.

    -hindi naman iniutos ng Panginoong Jesus na kabisaduhin natin ang bawat sinabi nya, bagkus ay iniutos nya na gumawa tayo kung paano mahalin ang ating kapwa maging kristiano o hindi. Na magpagal tayo para bumuti ang ating buhay. hindi naman lahat ng apostol ni jesus ay nagsulat kundi lahat sila ay nangaral at gumawa ng kabutihan sa kapwa para maging huwaran ng iba.

    – Hindi lang pari kundi may mga naging pope pa na di naging maganda ang ipinakitang pamumuhay sa publiko. Isa sa katangian ng simbahang katolika ay ang tinatawag na “human and divine”, “human” na tulad ng mga apostol ay iniwan si jesus sa gitna ng pagsubok gayong personal naman nilang nasaksihan ang mga himala ng Panginoon sa harap nila. Kaya asahan na natin na ang mga naglilingkod sa simbahan ay bumibigay sa tukso. Subalit hindi naman ibig sabihin ay masama na ang kabuuan. Hindi lang naman sa simbahang katoliko nangyayari ito marami rin dyan sa INC, ADD, mga Fundamentalist christians at mga protestants. Ayaw lang silang ireport kasi nga kung sino ang leading brand ayon ang masarap sirain at ibagsak.

    -sa pag-aaral ko ng lahat ng mga pangunahing relihiyong kristiano ay aking natanto na ang katolika ang syang makapagbibigay ng tamang gabay kung ano ang tunay na kagustuhan ng Diyos.

    Walang anumang relihiyon o sektang kristiano ang pwedeng sabihin na sila ay nanduon na, natatag na, ng buhay pa ang mga alagad kundi ang simbahang katoliko lamang kasama na ang mga kristiano na nasa hilagang afrika (coptic christians), mga Syrian christians at yung mga nasa India na may historical findings na si San Mateo at Bartolome ay nakarating duon.

    Pero wag kayong mag-alala na mga hindi katoliko, dahil sa aral at paniniwala ng simbahang katolika ay maliligtas din ang mga taong wala sa simbahan, dahil ang kaligtasan natin ay nasa Diyos ayon sa kanyang kagustuhan.

    • jpeter262

      - – – “”He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. (1 John 2:4)

      Sabi mo:

      “”Kung si Jesus ay iba ang pagkaDiyos sa Diyos Ama, nagkakasala parin tayo dahil nasa unang utos na iisa lamang ang Diyos.

      Paki basa lang ang:

      John 1:1-4, v 18, John 17:21-22, Matt 1127

    • doncleo

      Hindi ako palabasa ng bibliya..sa kaunting nabasa ko alam ko na iisa ang Diyos Ama na may gawa ng lahat, iiisa din ang Diyos anak na si Kristo na pinagbuwis ng buhay para matubos ang ating kasalanan at mayroong Banal na ispiritu na minsan ay inuutusan ng Diyos sa mga mahahalagang bagay ngunit bakit ba pinipilit sa katoliko na tatlo ang persona sa iisang Diyos (Holy Trinity)?..bakit sa dasal natin ay sinasabi natin na mauupo si Kristo sa/o bilang kanang kamay ng Diyos Ama?ibig sabihin ay mas mataas talaga ang Diyos Ama..kung si Kristo nga ay kasing taas ng Diyos Ama o kaisang katawan nya at kaisang isip, bakit hindi nya alam kung kailan ang paghuhukom?.Hindi ko din po alam kung may nasabi ang Diyos Ama o si Kristo mismo ng tungkol sa Holy Trinity?…pued po ba akong mapaliwanagan?

      • Filpino

        basahin mo ang lumang tipan kung saan si Moses at ang mga Israelita ay naglalakbay sa ilang papuntang Canaan (Exodus). Pagbinasa mo yan maiisip mo na ang Diyos ang nakikipag-usap kay Moses at nag-uutos sa mga Israelita kung ano ang dapat nilang gawin. then punta sa New testament sa 2Corinto 3:12-17 at Hebrew 10:15-17.

        Tungkol naman kay jesus at sa Diyos Ama, basahin mo ang Revelation 4 at 5, mapapansin mo na sabay silang sinamba sa langit.

        Sa Colosas 1:15-16 ay nasulat na si jesus-cristo ang larawan ng Diyos na di-nakikita.

        kung aaralin mo ang old testament ay sasagi sa isip mo na walang pwedeng makakita sa Diyos pagkat makasalanan ang tao at tayoy mamamatay pag Syay nakita. Pero nakita ni Moses na dumaan ang anino ng Diyos sa harap nya ganoon din si Isaias at si David at si Ezekial at si Isaac. Bakit di sila namatay? Dahil ang ang Diyos anak ang kausap nila noon na pwedeng makita ng tao.

        Sa old testament ay dahang dahang nagpakilala ang Diyos Ama sa mga tao na likha nya, at may mga paminsan-minsan na salita na tumutukoy sa pagdating ng Diyos Anak sa lupa. Tulad ng mga inihula ni Isaias at ang mga awit ni David. Gayon din sa ibang mga hula ng mga propeta sa lumang tipan. Tulad ng hula ni propeta Mikas at Malakias na mas magiging dakila ang ikalawang templo na itinayo matapos maguho ang tinayo ni solomon dahil ayon sa mga propeta ay pisikal na pupuntahan ng Diyos ang templo sa Jerusalem. At nangyari ito ng si Jesus ay ilang beses pumunta sa Templo sa Jerusalem. Sa new testament ay nakita natin ang pagdating ng Diyos Anak dito sa lupa, at mababasa rin natin sa new testament ang sinabi ni Jesus na pagpapakilala nya sa Banal na Espiritu. NA pag-akyat nya sa langit ay ang Banal na Espiritu naman ang lalagi dito sa lupa upang tayoy gabayan.

        Sa tingin mo ba maiintindihan agad ng mga tao kung biglaang inihayag ng Diyos kung sino Sya. Sa tatlong Persona nga sa iisang Diyos nahihirapan tayong unawain. Basta bro, iisa lang talaga ang Diyos.

      • jpeter262

        Sabi mo:
        . . . Sa tatlong Persona nga sa iisang Diyos nahihirapan tayong unawain…

        Mahirap talagang unawain ang TRINITY dahil iyon ay wala sa Bible. Jesus Christ and the Apostles never mentioned trinity. Only God the Father and God the Son were revealed when they preached the True Gospel, the Gospel of the Kingdom of God,

        “Protestant and Catholics today are increasingly unsure of what they believe. Many of today’s churches now acknowledge that doctrine in
        only a vague and watered down manner. Presbyterian officials voted to allow the denomination’s churches to use the phrase ‘compassionate mother, beloved child, and life-giving womb’ instead of ‘Father, Son, and Holy Spirit’ when referring to the Trinity.”

  • http://twitter.com/biancasofialuz Bianca Luz

    Though catholic by birth, when I am asked what my religion is I say that I am an agnostic theist since organized religion has caused me more problems than it has solved.

    I spent my elementary in an “Opus Dei acting catholic” school. It sickened me that we never had the right to ask questions to our biblical studies. It was always “this is what the bible said, the bible is god’s word, we have no right to question it.” The same thing goes for these homilies. Many priests expect us to blindly follow everything the bible says without addressing the negative points. Even when some do, they refuse to acknowledge that some passages are a bit ambiguous.

    Let’s not forget tyrannical priests who condemn modern minded Catholics. They pretend they know all answers to life’s questions and force these Catholics to believe they are wrong and sinful.

    With all that in mind, how can we blame the people for leaving Catholicism?

  • Islander

    How about virgin priests advising us about the problems of married life and the use of contraceptives? Isn’t that the height of hypocrisy? That is why their credibility is so low.

  • Populovich

    I’ve heard priests preached on TV and observed that there is no spiritual sense and meaning in their homilies, no power, absent of persuasive entreaties to move a heart or transform a person into Christ-like. Yeah, it is bland and mostly void of truth. Nothing worthy of faith and conduct.

  • dftysrtysrty

    haha, ‘missionary orientation’ daw!

  • Platypus09

    Disussing these in the open is a good start for the Catholicism to improve its services.

    You can only improve and improve and improve.

  • Platypus09

    Catholicism, or whatever faith, is something you develop on your own. With the guidance of the priests and ministers, you are the only one who can strengthen it or weaken it.

    It is your heart for it that matters, inorder to be closer to God.

    • doncleo

      True..as if Catholicism or religiosity will save them..remember Christ has no religion nor advocated any.. just have true faith in God and do His Commandments.. any .religion has too much hypocrisy.

  • hustlergalore

    the catholic priests should do a mike velarde. may tuwalya, may payong, singing and dancing and of course the outrageous colorful outfits. take note: sa tuwalya pa lang may collection na. LOL

  • UrHONOR

    >>>Priests blame boring sermons, second collections<<<

    PRIESTS and COLLECTIONS boring!

  • Dax Cogitlog
  • Manong_Kwarog

    The mass held on TV that is held every Sunday would be the very root why catholic are not attending anymore church masses. This is a very convenient way to hear mass when your too lazy to wake-up for the morning mass. You can avoid the dreadful traffic too. But catholic church don’t need to worry since all remain faithful.

  • dalen

    fr. reyes says some good things but seems to have left out the biggest reason people are turned off from the catholic church – their unintelligent anti-RH bill stance; and their lack of understanding or consideration of women in general. as a woman, i do find the church woefully behind the times in its treatises and rules about women. no women bishops. no women in the upper echelons of church hierarchy – meaning women don’t have a voice when it comes to decision making and dogma at the highest policy level. no wonder the church still churns out junk like, “women have a special role…they should not strive to be like men…but just have children and take care of the home.” while the home may be a great place to be, such gross generalization and bland oversimplication of women’s talents and abilities are a big turn off to intelligent modern women. add to that the church’s vociferous disapproval of the RH bill, something that could actually give women some power over their reproductive abilities. is it strange then that women begin to suspect the catholic church wants to keep them powerless, pregnant, and chained inside the house? while men have all the power and decision making abilities – especially inside the catholic church? ugh. no thanks!

    • haighton

      Do women need a RH law to gain power over their own womb and reproductive organs? I dont think so. It just needs common knowledge about how one’s body works. Vist a library, read Wikipedia about the reproductive organs. But at least do something to gain knowledge. Knowledge is power and dont wait. Be pro-active. Dont let others (a church, a bible) decide what is good (and bad) for you.

      • dalen

        wikipedia? library? tell that to the women in the slums. of course people who have money have no problem. they can buy anything, even overpriced condoms, or if their mayor doesn’t allow it to be sold in the drugstores, they can drive to the next city. but majority of the philippine population are poor. and have never stepped inside a library! they are the ones despairing over their 8th pregnancy. and they are the ones the bill aims to empower. not the rich girls in universities.

    • ARIKUTIK

      Do you call an RH poison pill as power for women ? Do you mean that drugs is for power even poisonous to the body. If that is so then shabu is power to the hungry destitute poor. Why then did this government will not make a law to distribute shabu so that all poor may have power to forget hunger ?

      Drugs for Power ? Since when it can be true. The greedy rich says “RH poison pill is women power”. Did you phrase that to con poor women to drink poison pill that will surely destroy their body to die of cancer while the Exempted Rich are laughing out loud on the deaths of poor Filipinos.

      RH law is Power of the Rich to kill poor Filipinos.

  • ARIKUTIK

    Fr. R. Reyes and Msgr. Vengco, (if they are really from RCC) had erred in arguing about the SWS survey. The survey firm SWS has no any accountability at all. It will splash around lies for the benefit of the highest bidder. It’s all about money. Let a lie argue among cheaters but the church must only preach about faith.
    Faith is to feed the hungry, to protect the weak, to shun the evil of greed and to do good for all creatures. It is not about preaching to gain believers but to do the commandments of God which is love for all humankind. Faith has no reason but love of God.

    The RH law is greed of Rich rulers to poison the hungry, weak and poor Filipinos. Faith is love and to protect the weak is love of God. Let the church and all believers do as God commanded. “Team Patay” is murderer of poor native Filipinos.

  • santosboi

    isa sa pagiging boring eh yung sobrang pag ka slang ng english.

    • ARIKUTIK

      Ang “Boring” sa bisaya ay ….. help me make it through the nightttttt…. hindi nya alam ano yon ! weeeeeeee >>>>>>>>>>>>

  • ThadeusSimon

    John 3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

    ONLY BORN IN GOD’S SPIRIT CAN UNDERSTAND THE WORD OF GOD.

    • txtman

      SO MEANING LAHAT NG MGA ANAK NG MGA JEWS NOON EH
      NAGCHANGE NG RELIGION?
      MASYADO KANG LITERAL INENG.
      .
      ANYWAY, THE ISSUE HERE ARE REPORTERS
      WHO ARE LAPDOGS
      WHO WILL ATTACK PEOPLE WHO WILL CRITISIZED THE GOVERNMENT
      AND SWS DOING DAGDA-BAWAS MODUS
      YAN ANG ISSUE
      PITIFUL

  • Marx Louis Wang

    Mula noong pumasok sa panunungkulan ang “hello Garcie” president, nagkaganyan ang mga Catholic believers.

  • GlenMJacob

    now the priest is better than the bishop in taking what the survey really wants to convey. Acceptance is the beginning of healing and progress. Stonewalling will not go anywhere bishops. Heed what Pope Francis has been doing … humility…

  • koolkid_inthehouse

    Roman Catholic church can’t stop the onslaught of the internet. People read the Holy Bible online and the Catholic church never teach what’s in the Holy Bible.

  • noypinga

    Pari tinatawag na “father” putsa kasalanang karumaldumal ! ! ! Pag sumamba ka pa sa simbahang katoliko e lalo kang maiimpyerno ! ! ! puro kasuklam suklam andun, mga diosdiosan kahoy at bato, dasal na paulit ulit mga asong nagbabanalbanalan, natatawa ako hihihihi! Matalino ka Pilipino lumayas ka na sa katolisismo! matalino bayani nating si Dr. Rizal, nabasa niya ang luma at bagong tipan, wala namang purgatoryo! eto namang mga pari inuuto tayo para sa kanilang sariling ganansya! matatakaw na aso! Gising Pilipino!

  • AlexanderAmproz

    This is good news, finally peoples getting tired of this imported 450 years cultural traditions of greed and abuses as moral values, enslaving the masses.

    A mental health liberation is on the way.

  • virgoyap

    What’s more discouraging for me is the “Team Buhay” and “Team Patay” issue or the “white votes” issue. I feel that I’m almost excluded from being a Catholic because I sing a different tune from what they are singing. They are the only ones who are Catholics! Poor me who is baptized and confirmed by our Bishop.

  • ApoNiLolo

    My dad, who is 86 yrs old, attends Sunday mass via his TV. Not only because his frail to go to church but also it’s convenient for him to listen to “homilies” while reading the Sunday papers and sipping coffee. >: D

  • http://www.facebook.com/armando.q.pico Armando Quogana Pico

    Too much politics bothered me most,not the sermons nor the collections,I’m very disappointed when the officiating priest began talking about politics

  • dranber4jesus

    In reality, faith decline, recline and incline are unavoidable. The Church ministers and liturgical rites are not the only factors, much less the culprits. Secularism is the major culprit. It is espoused by the media, which sensationalize materialism, perversity, political tension, hedonism, religious conflict, etc. These are formidable hindrances to a profound faith build-up. They prey not only on the lay but also on the very Church people who need very strong faith to resist the lures of paganism and to witness profoundly to the Christian faith. I believe that the survey purported is not accurate. There are numerous Christians, even non-Catholic ones, who are very righteous, humble, charitable and saintly. With a strong faith, second collections don’t matter; neither does a boring homily. After all, boredom is in the “eyes of the beholder”. One thing I wish to stress: Faith is both Grace and a response. Christian truth and love shall always prevail over secularism and mediocrity. The Church is here to stay.

  • boybakal

    Father Reyes is not a priest….he is a runner.

    • tyurl

      And he’s a “real” father too

  • Ros Feliciano

    Each year the Roman Catholic Church
    loses thousands of its members to sects and cults all over the world. This
    poses an incredible pastoral problem (cf. The Vatican Report, 1986). What is
    true the world over is also true in the Philippines.

    Since the first century, sects have
    always existed in the history of the Catholic Church; groups have broken away
    from the Church on the basis of different doctrinal or practices.

    These groups are referred to as the
    “New Religious Movements.” The members who form part of this movement are
    called Christian Fundamentalists, and they display two characteristics, among
    others: 1. They base themselves exclusively on the Holy Bible, (Sola
    Scriptura), which they interpret almost all its passages in a literal manner;
    and only faith (Sola Fide) for salvation. 2. They denounce the Catholic Church
    as apostate.

    According to the late Bishop Fulton
    Sheen, “There aren’t hundred people in America who hate the Catholic Church,
    but there are millions who hate what they mistakenly think (about) the Catholic
    Church is.” We should explain with humility and respect about how and why we
    believe we are safe to those who ask us as what St. Peter tells us to do in the
    Scripture.

    Our
    present-day Fundamentalism is almost exclusively an American phenomenon and, as
    a movement within Protestant Evangelicalism. From America it has spread mainly
    to the English- speaking countries in the world; and today, throughout the
    Latin American countries, European countries and Asia and the Pacific. Those who want to know more about this
    phenomenon please contact: rosauro_feliciano@yahoo.com

  • nano

    Its not only boring Homily, the 2nd collection, asking for more donation, talking about politics but also the priest in our place is often late 30 minutes to 1 hour. As a priest he must showed respect to the church goers by being punctual . Pagkatapos mi pagkain o snack para sa pari at company ,habang mi mga church goers na nahihirapan man lang kumain 2 beses isang araw. At yung constant asking for donation nakakainis, parang milking cow ang mga tao.

  • walangutak

    Wala ito sa kalingkingan sa kasalukuyang nagyayari dito sa Toledo city kung saan kasakasama ng grupo ng One Cebu ang dalawang pari, Parish priest ng Toledo at isang Padre Binondo sa kanilang pangngampanya sa third district,na nasa stage talaga at ikinakampanya ang buong partido ng One Cebu. He he he. Dahil seguro wala nang nakikinig sa kanyang sermon sa loob ng simbahan kaya sa entablado na lang ng isang political rally na mas malaki ang bayad kaysa collection sa misa siya nagsasalita kaya lang hindi tungkol sa aralin ng simbahan.

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