US eyes tit-for-tat vs N. Korea – report

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In this photo taken on Saturday, March 9, 2013, the guided-missile destroyer USS Lassen (DDG 82) arrives to participate in the annual joint military exercises, dubbed Key Resolve, between South Korea and the United States, as South Korean navy sailors wave South Korean and U.S. national flags at a naval port in Donghae, South Korea. AP

WASHINGTON – The United States and South Korea have drawn up plans for a measured tit-for-tat response to North Korean actions, which will be limited in order to prevent an escalation to broader war, The New York Times reported.

Citing unnamed US officials, the newspaper late Sunday said the new “counter-provocation” plan is calling for an immediate but proportional “response in kind” to North Korea if it decides to launch a ground attack or a missile.

Under the plan, the source of any North Korean attack will be hit with similar weapons, the report said.

If the North Koreans were to shell a South Korean island that had military installations, the plan calls for the South to retaliate quickly with a barrage of artillery of similar intensity, the paper noted.

Kim Jang-Soo, chief national security adviser to South Korea President Park Geun-Hye, said Sunday that North Korea may test-launch a missile this week, as the United States delayed its own missile test due to soaring tensions on the peninsula.

Kim said a test-launch or other provocation could come before or after Wednesday, the date by which the North has suggested that diplomats leave Pyongyang.

If the North launches one of its new Musudan missiles, Pentagon officials said they would be ready to calculate its trajectory within seconds and try to shoot it down if it appeared headed toward impact in South Korea, Japan or Guam, The Times said.

But they planned to do nothing if it were headed toward open water, even if it went over Japan, the paper added.

According to The Times, the officials doubted that North Korean new leader Kim Jung-un would risk aiming the missile at the United States or its allies.

US President Barack Obama has ruled out striking at the missiles while they are on their launchers unless there is evidence they are being fitted with nuclear warheads, which intelligence officials doubt North Korea yet possesses, the paper said.

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  • Simplify1

    tagal…..

  • tugakbatan

    Diyan tayo magaling. Ask the US to give, give, and give more. How about us, did we ever give the US some aids or supports? Wala, itinaboy nga natin sila. Now, we are critical about the Balikatan.

    • Jay Ramos

      read past & present events then you will know that we have given the US some help
      in many forms. Why always look for negative when we have lots of positive things!

    • Fred Cua

      During world war 1, the Philippines financed the production of 1 submarine as aid to american navy. The Philippines also sent a small contingent in France to fight alongside the Americans in war that doesnt involve our country.
      During world war 2, we remain loyal to the Americans hoping for their comeback as McArthur promised, even if its loud and clear that Roosevelts war plan will skip the Philippines and leave us at the mercy of the Japs, thanks to Mcarthurs conviction and he won against the US congress.
      During the Korean war, we sent a contingent of 10,000 soldiers to fight alongside Americans to the war we’re not supposed to get involved.
      During Vietnam war, same thing.
      The Americans built military bases in our country risking our own security, plus abuses committed by American soldiers on our people.
      What more the Americans can ask for? During the entire history of our relationship with the Americans, they got the most benefits from us instead of us getting benefits from them.

      • Fred Cua

        And if you think of any American contribution we got, its their responsibility because they colonized us, massacred a lot of people during Philippine American war, and used our country for their own interest. Enough said…..

      • Graymatter28

        ….and do you think that Philippines won’t get involved if there will be another conflict in Asia Pacific after cutting our defense ties with US especially that the Philippines is literally defenseless? It’s catch 22 – either we maintain a close ally with a superpower or risk being devoured by another one. What other choices or alternatives can we make right now?

      • $26149191

        He is a Chinese trolls…..

      • Fred Cua

        Do you mean to say that we need not to improve our defense capabilities and rely solely on the US mutual defense treaty? As far as I know, the treaty was created in 1952 because we were a military superpower in Asia back then, and the US allying with us is logical that time.

      • Graymatter28

        As of this moment, we do need the US whether you like it or not because their interests with freedom of navigation is aligned with ours regarding those territories scattered in a big Asian pond. The missile threat from Nokor gives us another reason why it’s really a good idea to have them around since they successfully flew a rocket that reached all the way to us.

        Upgrading defense will take time, money, effort and of course, political cooperation.

        We don’t have much time right now and defense spending is long overdue that our more powerful neighbors are getting bolder in asserting their bogus claims on our outlying territories.

      • $26149191

        Like Mao massacred its own people? How many Filipinos was massacred by Americans? How many people poisoned by Chinese products smuggled to Philippines? Compared the 2 centuries and make a conclusion.

      • Chihuahua

        Hundreds of thousands of phl civilians and combatants killed during the Phl USA war of 1899-1902. Are you or even half of present Phl people even aware of this facts? Probably no clue at all. And of course the hundreds of thousands butchered, raped and decapitated by the imperial Nipponese just 60years ago. Phl have short memories of their own history.

      • $26149191

        Hundred thousand? That’s chicken feed for china. Mao killed and massacred its own people 100 million and still counting sponsored by new China’s premier and it was happened in Tibet and other part of occupied territory of China. Chinese have short memories than Filipinos. They even make Mao Zedong a hero, what a shame!!!! Now, North Korea is a monster that created by China. While the South is in Boom. Philipppine is one of the strongest country in The South, but Marcos neglect those power and economy that brought by the Americans, corruptions are left and right. That’s involved Chinese that came to the Philippine with slippers. He allowed to be used as dummy to make a million of Filipino blood money and killing them by his cigarettes. Chinese introduced corruption to Filipinos including communism.

      • Fred Cua

        Dont get mistaken because Im neither Chinese nor a communist.

      • $26149191

        Am not saying. We’re in 21st century forget about the past we learned our lessons by then, we ruled by laws not by history. China undermine those things and keep pushing what they taught/learned from communism and distorted history. How can you imagine the 11 dash to 9 dash as their inherent territory.

        If you’re neither commies or China’s trolls not Chinese(Because many Chinese doesn’t like China).Do something against China first. Nowhere in the world with mining without China’s men. World destruction is in China’s mind not for Americans. Go to U.S how they strict enforcing their laws. Look at Subic and Clark how they preserved those place, although there is toxic waste issue. Pasig river is more than that. Filipinos, you are to be blame for Philippine future not anyone else. Protect your country and your constitution.

      • calixto909

        Your own words ensnared you to unveil that you’re a communist that’s why you hated the Americans.

      • Fred Cua

        I dont hate the Americans, and Im neither a mainland chinese nor a communist. But I believe its time for us Filipinos to stop being dependent to the Americans. We can cooperate with any nations, americans included, to achieve economic progress, but to let them use and abuse us, its a different matter.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        which sub was that i never read about it. as for world war two do you think they would have stayed here after they surrendered. there probably been a lot less civilian deaths because there wouildnt have been any fighting here it would have been lke indochina. the philippines seny 7500 solders to korea along with 15 other countries because it was a un action and the philippines belonged to the un. the philippines had 92 deaths 12 other counties had more including columbia ethopia greece turkey had 719 deaths vietnam thailand korea austrialia and new zealand was also there anyway how does it to feel to have so much hate did you forget the spanish and how they screwed over the people here enough said

      • Fred Cua

        Most history books do not mention the other face of philippine contribution during world war 1 to the americans and that includes the submarine construction, if you’re lucky enough to google it then go. Im with you bro when the Americans left PH because that is true, they were defeated. The issue here is their intention to come back like McArthur promised to launch the Philippine campaign. It was never the US congress plan to liberate the whole Philippines but only Leyte then they will leapfrog to Formosa to save American lives, but McArthur rejected the plan and he consider the Philippine campaign a sentimental matter to him. Here is his exact quote when he argue with US statesmen “The 17 million Filipinos virtually remain loyal to the Americans. If we abandon them, it only proves the Japanese propaganda that we have left them. Its a shame for us if we do not shed American blood for our colony” Its so strange that I cant google this event, only a handful of history books from National library contain his info.
        Yes I know that the spanish conquered us longer than the Americans, but the issue here is our relationship with the present Americans which is only one sided.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        all know is we cant changre history though it would be nice if we could and i agree america was no angel during the early i900s just like things that happened to the american indians that shouldnt have happened. actually it was nimitz and halsey who wanted to bypass the philippines but macarthur got his way. in a way i suppose it was good because it delayed things long enough for the a bombs to be made and used earlier we would have invaded japan and that would have been a mess. again we cant change anything just have to strive to make things better

      • giltor

        horse patoot

        The FOOLHARDINESS OF DOUGLAS MACARTHUR made Manila the WWII most DEVASTATED city second only to WARSAW.

        WHY – Douglas M. was a heavy stockholder in San Miguel Brewery as well as the Insular Ice Plant in Arroceros and naturally interested in getting it back ASAP. Besides, he co-owned San Mig with his compadre and aide-de-camp Don Andres Soriano.

        He could easilly spare the destruction of Manila IF he only has done what he did in Wewak and Hansa Bay bypassing them.

        But NOOO! MacArthur sinister corporate greed resulted in the lost of countless innocent lives and the destruction of Manila.

      • giltor

        horse patoot

        You’ll never find this in your “1000+ chinese books” which you alleged and bragged about to own (most likely chinese pornographic books and comics).

        NOT A SUB BUT A SUBMARINE ‘D E S T R O Y E R’

        USS Rizal (DD-174), a 1060-ton Wickes class destroyer donated to the United States by the people of the Philippines, was launched on 21 September 1918 at the Union Iron Works in San Francisco under the sponsorship of Mrs. Sofia Reyes de Veyra, wife of the Philippine Resident Commissioner to the United States, Jaime Carlos de Veyra. Commissioned on 28 May 1919 with CDR Edmund S. Root in command, Rizal was named in honor of the martyred Philippine patriot and reformer José Protacio Rizal Mercado y Alonso Realonda (1861-1896).

        HEE-HAW!

      • CommonSens6

        Most if not all GRP ever did and able and willing to contribute is “manpower” which we have plenty of and which we gladly volunteer… for the “money”. That’s just the nature of things as GRP is poor and will continue to be poor because of our culture of corruption! Haay Pilipinas!

      • $26149191

        Americans built U.S bases risking their lives for Filipinos. If there is abuses committed by Americans but it is documented and tried. But the abuses of Phililippine military during The Marcos time are more than that and paired with corruption. U.S brought improvements and investment with its allies to the Philippines but Philippine government official with Chinese descent are the most corrupt in he world. Philippine cannot live alone without the others. China and North Korea are treat to the world peace. No Country in the world that improve by China. No one.

      • Fred Cua

        You are right, China and North Korea are both threat to peace and stability.
        There is no question to that American investors contributed to our economy, who doesnt? Even the Japs and Chinese have enough contributions in our economy. The Philippine military abuses maybe common, yes agree.
        The US may not be bullying us now like the Chinese. But the Filipinos are begging for American attention when its loud and clear that they will only move a finger if it is for their own interest. The mutual defense treaty was created in 1952 when we were still a military superpower in asia back then and the US allying with PH is a right thing to do, but if you notice the contents of the treaty, the Americans will not automatically defend us in case of an attack, they need to assess first if its for their own interest.

      • $26149191

        Maybe it is your assumption. Philippine should build their defense first, if U.S will intervene, it will misconstrued as intervention. A lot of money wasted by Philippine government to useless projects and their previous administration doesn’t like to improve their military strength against external enemies. Mutual defense treaty will be tested when the time comes. Singapore is an hour away from the Philippines southernmost area, Okinawa and Guam are the same likewise.

        Philippine military dilemma be blame to their leaders, not to U.S government.

      • mariovill1950

        Please don’t forget the Laurel Langley agreement signed in 1955 ,which was
        detrimental to the Phil.economic interest and very much lopsided in favour to the U.S.

      • Fred Cua

        I remember that. If Im not mistaken, that gives eternal right to the Americans to exploit our natural resources unrestricted, literally.

      • speaksoftlylove

        “During American war, same thing”? Definitely wrong.

        We did not send combatants to Vietnam. We sent engineers and medical team for civic action that is why we called them Philippine Civil Action Group (Philcag). Know your facts.

        And here’s what you do not know. During the Japs WWII occupation in Manila, the sadists in the dreaded :”kempetai” who tossed Filipino children into the air and catch them with their bayonets are mostly North Koreans who were allies of the Japs during Warld War II. That’s how cruel these these sadists are. That is why when the Korean war broke out we were more than willing to help the US to at least even up the score. And, if you are chinese then stop twisting facts because your username will not help.

      • Fred Cua

        Did I say I like the Japanese better than the Americans? At sino ang Chinese? Baka ikaw. And which facts are twisted?
        You are right about the Philcag, but like I said, its one of the help we extend to our former colonial master.

      • Richard

        I fully agree. That’s because we’re still a US neo-colony until today.We had already sacrificed 1.5 million Filipinos during Philippine-American war in Feb, 1899 to 1913. Until when that Filipinos would offer their lives in wars that not of their own? but US imperialist wars for their own interest for world domination?

      • Fred Cua

        Agree

      • Concur_Dissent

        McArthur’sreturn to the Philippines was nothing but his grandstanding at the expense of the pinoys…. It is not like the japanese would have won if McArthur bypassed the philippines and went straight to taiwan as originally planned… Japan would still have been defeated… Upon Japan’s surrender, all their armies from all over asia returned to japan including the remnants of their soldiers in the Philippines. Manila would not have been devastated and countless pinoy lives would not have been lost…

    • Graymatter28

      Yeupz, we kicked out the bases but our beloved government DID NOT invest in improving our capabilities to defend our interests and sovereignty. If we are going to kick out a powerful ally that would help defend us, at least BACK IT up by seriously investing in defense. Unfortunately, it was really the ugly politics, graft and corruption in the military that left the country in such a pathetic state. How can we defend our sovereignty or interests by mere words alone? What if it doesn’t work?

      • RegineMarfie

        yes because all the marxist left wing tibaks in the country always yell a ton load of protests everytime we up the ante on defense spending…

    • Magsasaka

      dahil sa mga bansang katulad ng pinas hindi direktang natatarget ang tate ng kanyang mga kalaban

    • CommonSens6

      Two of our best: Madrigal and Legarda. Won’t be suprised if these two will ask the US to leave the planes they’re using for the Balikatan exercise as 100M USD in USAID and 30M USD + military aid per year is absolutely not enough “gimmies”!

    • Billy Reyes

      Everything that America did to the world is for their own interest. Here is 1 great example.
      1.America said they go to Iraq for Weapon of Mass Destruction but none of them found. They said they want to promote democracy in Iraq IRAQ? why not Saudi Arabia KSA is not democratic coutry because Saudi Arabia is the largest supplier of oil in the United States. Sadam Hussien cut the supply of oil in America.

      So do you think they are doing balikatan to help us common my friend. There is nothing for free in this world.

  • Kalapok

    Iraq nga inatake na walang nuclear, tas itong Nk na klaro di pa bombahin kaagad!! sabagay ala naman atang fuel reserve ang NK.

  • Albert Einstien

    laglag na naman tayo ng US master natin..di KASAMA ang RP sa proteksyon…pero ayaw nila UMALIS dito ..panay BALIKATAN GAMES pa rin NUCLEAR ATTACK magnet sila…100 million lives ang nilalagay nila sa panganib..postpone muna balikatan GAMES

    “If the North launches one of its new Musudan missiles, Pentagon
    officials said they would be ready to calculate its trajectory within
    seconds and try to shoot it down if it appeared headed toward impact in
    South Korea, Japan or Guam, “

    • CommonSens6

      Why did NK mention the Philippines as a target? The US has a defense treaty
      with GRP and she would stand by that treaty that I guarantee!

      • iriga1_city1_boy1

        But the U.S. has also the commitments to defend Japan and S. Korea!! Why not mention the Philippines,too!!

      • RegineMarfie

        bwahahahaha we signed a commitment

        To Defend The United States If She Yells For Help :D ))))))

      • iriga1_city1_boy1

        To RegineMarfie:
        Please read my earlier post and read it clearly.I never wrote that the Philippines will defend U.S. if the latter asks for help!!Are you a bit confused,Maam?You know how to read and comprehend the English language.

      • RegineMarfie

        youre asking me a question? Yes I can read. Youre asking if the US will defend us? You have not been aware we have an MDT?

      • stealth ice

        because north korea has no plan to attack the philippines. their nemesis are americans, south koreans and japanese. one more thing their missiles has no capacity to reach our shore.

        hope these clear your doubts.

      • iriga1_city1_boy1

        “because north korea has no plans to attack the Philippines……..
        Stealth Ice,
        This statement in no way guarantees that the philippines will not be a collateral to this tinderbox brewing up in Korea.Example:

        During the Vietnam War the protagonists were U.S.,South Vietnam against North Vietnam.Since the Vietcongs crossed and used some parts of Cambodia as sanctuaries,the U.S. started bombing Sihanouk’s Cambodia.That’s the same as if there are U.S. troops doing “Exercises” or U.S. vessels anchored in the philippines, there can be possibilities that they might get targeted,even though the Philippines does not have a rift with North korea.But U.S.assets are here.All bets are off in War,my friend

        One of their(North korean) test missiles was found east of philippine sea last year or so.that’s why some fishermen in Polillo Islands and Bicol got panicky.now ,i hope i doubly clear your doubts,too.

      • sagbotgamot

        it will soon. just wait when the CIA and the Pentagon says so. All the news we are hearing and reading about north korea are sanitized by them. just believe in what they are saying and you’ll be ok

    • iriga1_city1_boy1

      Pareng Albert Einstein,
      This quote,”If the North……..South Korea,Japan or Guam” is a bit bothersome to the Philippines.
      The logic here is:How if the trajectory calculated appears to impact the Philippines or near its borders,will Pentagon shoot it down? Or they did not mention the Philippines because of the delicate row between our country and China?So as not to offend the big Dragon and big business between them?

      • Albert Einstien

        correct what if trajectory is at panatag islands..just a boat ride away from zambales…will china shoot it down because it is their territory or US will shoot it down because their warships are roamng the area….whatever they do….the BLACK RAIN will hit the entire LUZON & VISAYAS……aalis lang sila para di maapektuhan ..papano ang luzon at visayas..pwede ba umalis din ?.

        even more if NK hit SUBIC where US warships are anchored….any MISS by the US MDS will be catastrophic to our people…that is why the BALIKATAN GAMES should be POSTPONED for now…..NK has 200 known MUSADAN missiles ten years ago .. & already tested 3 nuclear detonations……they have missiles already reaching orbit..KUMPLETOS RECADOS na sila…tayo asungot pa rin sa US ..tatakbo lang US pag UMULAN ng missles dito ang mga pilipino san pupunta…? wala naman tayong AWAY sa NK..pero nakasalang tayo sa NUCLEAR ANNIHILATION…..maiintindihan naman ni UNCLE SAM yan pag ipostpone bkit nag-mamagaling ang gobyerno….

      • RegineMarfie

        the Mad Doctrine would dictate that they Shoot down the Missile going to Panatag Shoal and at that same moment, they Will In Turn Vaporize any Living North Korean thing from Ipis to Kim Jong Yun… using All the Nuclear Weapons Available in the arsenal of the Allies deployable to Balance the Equation of Terror against North Korea.

      • Albert Einstien

        NK & IRAN are linked….” U.S. Deputy Assistant Treasury Secretary Daniel Glaser, visiting South Korea on
        August 2nd to discuss both Iran and North Korea, commented that “the two are bound to be linked.”

        Similarly, a ranking source within the South Korean
        government recently stated, “When North Korea exported missile technology to Iran, it is possible that Iran might have exported uranium enrichment technology to North Korea.” On the same note, Kim Young Sun, a spokesperson for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade added on August 7th, “We are watching with concern the possibility that North Korea and Iran might be cooperating on
        WMD.”

        North Korea claims to be making progress with its HEU program, and North Korea experts believe there is a high possibility of Pyongyang having a HEU program since centrifugal separators, which are used to enrich uranium, are small, making them easy to conceal, and also since enrichment facilities can be widely dispersed.

        with a thousand/S with super fin & special fuel BM25 musudan missiles nuclear tipped …only CRAZY natIon would dare NK… & US & NATO MDS can not SIMULTANEOUSLY intercept thousands of missiles ..even if they are INTERCEPTED ..earths atmosphere will be poisoned by black rain ALL over & will last for centuries………..maybe that is why US suddenly REALIZES & put the brakes on their aggressive stance…against NK….this will escalate in WW3 if US makes a wrong move…china & NK have mutual defense treaty…so as China, Russia & Iran.. .. mutual defense treaty is automatic any attack against one is ATTACK to ALL…..iran & russia are very silent…………only china is politically playing the US ….

        WAR is STUPID & COSTLY….No substitute for PEACE & RESPECT…

      • RegineMarfie

        Those are the rules. Not too much Melo Drama…

        Equalize the Balance of Terror… MAD…. you shoot once… you won’t have a second chance… you’ll be Elmer’s Glue…

        I would not bet against an established doctrine to deal with a rogue nuclear state scenario… the rules are clear everyone knows it, all of them have Nukes… and they will play it here if NorKor puts the candy bar on the table.

      • RegineMarfie

        China knows the Doctrine very well… they and the Russian Commies like you have been fencing Western Powers with this Ideology for years until the Berlin Wall Fell…

        in all candor… going along with america on this indicates China does not have the apetite to see the beginings of the The End of This Planet Starting near it’s borders…

        Make No Mistake…

        Western Powers Will Follow This Doctrine Because They Can.

      • Albert Einstien

        he he…not all patriots are commies…no problem if western countries & commies will destroy each other ..as long as they don’t involve my country….in their stupidity….. : > )

      • RegineMarfie

        … if these korean commies fire even just one Nuke anywhere…in the target zone of all those missiles you enumerated earlier… there won’t be a planet to save your country in…

        ang laro dito : Takutan

        and the role of the doctrine is to balance enough fear in everyone so that no body pushes that nuke fire control button because if they do they know in a matter of minutes they also turn into Elmer’s Glue… that’s the Logic Nuclear Power Players Follow when they get threatened with a half wit marxist commie spoiled brat.

      • iriga1_city1_boy1

        Maam,

        You got your logic skewered again and in knots.Why do you compare ,the guy who posts Albert Einstien as like a Russian Commie? The person is just disseminating his opinions.I never read from his post that he is a Communist.Now,he might be a patriot because he cares for his country!!.Look at his post.He’s laughing at your ill advice post.

        Please post with reason and sanity.It’s embarrassing.

      • RegineMarfie

        No I don’t… It’s just that you don’t get what I’m saying… that’s the science of the thing. You have your own impression? They’re yours… okay? That’s mine. And I won’t change anything there because that’s how the world survived the cold war… Under a constantly evaluated balance of Terror and MAD… and I believe that’s how they will deal with this people. That’s all…

  • farmerpo

    Tit for tat…. kill my civilians I will kill yours… very uncivilized. The root cause of this row is known to be malignant like a cancer.As such treat it as a disease and excise it without too much blood. It is now possible. In medicine laparoscopic hysterectomy is nice and clean. Same idea in militiary operations. Not all of NoKor need suffer. Taking out the boy might even be welcomed by the NoKor citizens.

  • Hey_Dudes

    USA & South Korea know they can make North Korea nothing but mounds of wasteland after few drops of nuclear bombs aboard B52 and B2 stealth planes. Obviously, engaging NoKor in things that may not mean a whole lot shows both USA and South Korea egging North Korea to push the envelope farther. They should not be doing this. Instead if they leave the North Koreans alone, it maybe a face saving way for them.

    • Crazy_horse101010

      you mean north korea has never threatened or shelled south korea or blown up a south korean ship. they dont want to be left alone because they want to show the world how important they are in their own minds.

      • giltor

        horse patoot

        USS PUEBLO (AGER-2)

        USS LIBERTY (AGTR-5)

        USS GUARDIAN (MCM-5)

        NEXT:

        USS CRAZZY HORSE (NCC-50446)

  • joboni96

    all imperialist preparation
    for war with the hegemonist intsik switik

    imperialist u.s provokes nokors
    nokors prepare to defend their country

    • Crazy_horse101010

      they are attacking who shelled south korea who blew up their ship who is kidnapping their people dont you read the papers comrade. and who wants the south under their rule

  • valsore

    We allowed to spoil N.Korea, that’s why N.Korea behaves this way like a perennial boy in tantrum. It’s time to give it a good spanking.

    • http://twitter.com/retoot aris alfaro

      ….excellent point. my exact sentiments, dude. another scary consequence is the message this acts of a$$holeness it gives to iran. what if iran gets the ‘i can do that, too’ idea, i wonder how the strangely placid u.s. government will respond.

  • tolindoy

    the last time south korea said it promised a stronger response, now it is saying a proportional response. what does that mean?

  • RegineMarfie

    .

    No War Plan Ever Survives First Contact With The Enemy and With Reality

    this major doctrine in any war, in any battle ever experienced by Western forces anywhere in any theater form Europe to Asia to a Afghanistan validates this fact in the Management, Ethos and Operations of war…

    Things go wrong. Sometimes, it can go horribly wrong and thus the sea of fire narrative of NoKors could become real the Philippines included [anyway… if this happens there will not be any need to inconvenience manila by re blocking EDSA har har har]… the Pentagon I hope knows this and believes it has a veritable and very effective Plan B… Plan C… and has the perfect Coalition Mix in order to contain th skirmish and not escalate it to go Nuclear.

    There is no point of Return once you turn the Switch on to a Nuclear Holocaust… no body will live to plan the next Response… that is why in a Nuclear War Plan Scenario… a First Strike Initiative is always an Option to any of the Opposing Forces unless they attain a nuclear arsenal deployment level called MAD… the Mutual Ability To Destroy Each other’s Forces Without a second chance becomes EQUALLY POSSIBLE… the objective being to try to OBTAIN AND GAIN a PERFECT BALANCE OF TERROR

    That is what western Allies Should Achieve with NoKorea… It must make the NoKoreans Perceive and Believe… if the NoKors take The Pre-Emptive Strike Initiative and they make a Mistake… there would not be a Second Chance for the pre emptive shooter… all or zero sum game

    Anyway that Doctrine in Cold War Ethics seems Applicable in this Scenario…

    • RegineMarfie

      Nung nag declare ng War ang North Korea with the Option To Go Nuclear if the War Planners require the employment of Nukes… THE MAD DOCTRINE has now come into Effect… In Order to Achieve Peace… Opposing Forces must now Achieve a Perfect if Not Better Balance of Terror… MAD

  • Photogeneratedholes

    hehe…. tulad ng nagyari noon sa Gulf war… war tactic ng US na magpalabas kunwari ng leakage ng plano… then iba naman ang gagawin.

  • Ganymede

    Upakan na ang NK kung uupakan.. puro kayo porma lang.

  • http://www.facebook.com/enric.estrelladescalsota Enric Templado-Oberes Estrella

    ibagsak ang imperyalistang amerikano..

  • guest

    I think South Korea and Japan alone can handle the North Koreans what with all their Aegis Defence system. There is no need for US to fight unless China comes in then it will be WWIII.

  • pisbol

    nanakop at “tumutulong kuno*” ba yan sila kung walang sariling kapakanan?

  • pololoy

    get ready to rumble….!!!

  • Pamela Flavell

    i agree with LMD. wala naman tayong capability to defend ourselves. we are but little fish in a big ocean. so whether you like it or not, kailangan natin ang estados unidos. pintasan pa sila. bakit hindi gamitin ang utak sa pagboto ng good leaders para hindi forever third world ang conditions sa pinas. kasi yung gumagamit ng utak at pawis, umaalis

  • Pamela Flavell

    at ang natitira ay mga mayayamang tamad hindi alam magtrabaho. ang goal sa buhay ay pumasok sa gobyerno where there is easy money to hurakot and stash away in offshore accounts. or buy houses in the very country they label as imperialis. FYI: US will show its presence wherever democracy and threat to peace is at stake. Burden nila yan dahil they are the face of democracy. do you seriously think they like to spend billions of taxpayers’ dollars staging for a war much less go into one? For the american people it’s costly. but they do it in the name of (i beg your pardon, beauty pageants) world peace.

  • Pamela Flavell

    napakadaling mamintas look at your puny selves.

  • Pamela Flavell

    we have a long way to go. hindi tayo capable to be self sufficient. why not con entrate on how to make philippines a better place to live in. Big picture: nganga ng nganga akala mo astig, thirld world naman. Living conditions for the average filipino? DEPLORABLE! nakakahiya.

  • Pamela Flavell

    instead of blaming US, why not use you brains by electing better leaders who will upgrade the philippines’ status as a third world country? The living conditions of the average filipino is deplorable!

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