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Cardinal asks ‘blasphemous’ artist: Can you do that to your own father?

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MANILA, Philippines—Manila Archbishop Gaudencio Cardinal Rosales condemned on Monday the art exhibit at the Cultural Center of the Philippines (CCP) depicting a crucifix with a wooden penis and a picture of Jesus Christ with the ears of a rabbit.

Speaking on Church-run Radio Veritas, Rosales said the exhibit of Mideo Cruz “abused” freedom of expression and urged the faithful to “rise up” in protest against it.

“It’s an abuse of freedom because the use of freedom must respect responsibilities. There’s a responsibility not to destroy culture, civilization or the good conduct of persons,” Rosales said.

“Those who are like that, I don’t know what he learned from his parents, from his school, from his friends. It’s a complete betrayal of what is right and the knowledge of what is wrong,” Rosales said.

The cardinal said the exhibit, which the CCP has defended, was a “big insult, disrespect” to “right-thinking persons.”

“Let me just ask, can he (Cruz) do that to his own father (or) to (national hero Jose) Rizal? …you will never do that to somebody you respect (like) your parents or to a hero like Jose Rizal. Why did you do that to the Son of God?” Rosales said.

The Manila archbishop urged the laity to rise up and correct the perceived blasphemous exhibit at the CCP.

“The lay persons should rise up, especially the parents, teachers and institutions. I hope you don’t allow this to be done to your children. I leave it to you to act,” Rosales said.

“This is highly offensive and not the act of a good man. It’s a shame that a Filipino did this. There are good works of artists but this is offensive and is disrespectful to God. There’s punishment for that. That is not artistic freedom,” Rosales added.

Manila Auxiliary Bishop Broderick Pabillo said it was wrong for a person to “play” with objects considered holy by a religion.

“Art should enhance life…Freedom of expression has a limit because that freedom involves our duty to respect the stand, the opinion and the culture of others,” Pabillo said.

“Who will be happy if an artist plays and desecrates the culture and holiness of faith of a religion? I don’t know but if they do that to Muslims, will our Muslim brothers be happy? Freedom of expression has a corresponding responsibility. It should not be abused,” Pabillo added.

Pro-life Philippines president Eric Manalang said that they would file criminal charges against Cruz and the leadership of the CCP.

“It’s going to be a criminal case at the Ombudsman because members of the CCP board are government officials so they are liable for public trust. We will file a case (against) both of them,” said Manalang.

He said that if the CCP exhibit was not stopped, others might follow and also degrade other religions, not just Christianity.

Tagbilaran bishop Leonardo Medroso said CCP officials and Cruz should be charged if they did not relent.

“What we’ll do is have a dialogue with the CCP. Talk with CCP. Again, if nothing is being done, then we go to a higher office or a higher court. We will charge them,” said Medroso.


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  • Anonymous

    No wonder local Catholics cannot respond to the
    Mideo Cruz and his art appropriately because  even their bishops  ignore what Christ said about blasphemy against
    Himself and how He reacted  to such acts.  About blasphemy, Jesus said: “Therefore I say
    to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against
    the Spirit shall not be forgiven. Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man,
    it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall
    not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.”  (Matthew
    12:31,32).

    Jesus also  took blasphemy against
    Himself in stride. When in reaction  to 
    His healing the demon-possessed, blind and mute man, the  Pharisees 
    claimed that the prince of demons enabled Him to perform the miracle, He calmly
    reasoned  with them (Matthew 12:22-37) And when he was reviled and
    mocked  en route to and during the Crucifixion, He asked the  Father to forgive  His tormentors. If
    Jesus could forgive those who attack Him, are His followers supposed to do
    otherwise?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JS2L5G6FBKJH6VRAMERMCCJLIY Gagami Tuladyu

      OO na mas magaling ka na sa mga bishops! ahihihi! sa sobrang GALING mo, SARILI mo lang ang kaya mong utuin, at yung mga katulad ni daily borat at mideo! ahihi, palibhasa PENIS lang ang dinidiyos ninyo! ROfL! ;)

    • Anonymous

      You do not understand what you are talking about. Don’t you know that the Father, Son and The Holy Spirit are ONE? The Holy Spirit is Jesus and the Father. Blasphemy to Jesus or Holy Spirit is blasphemy to God. What difference does it make? I’m sure you are not a Catholic.

    • Anonymous

      Ayon po sa encyclical “Dominum et vivificantem” (On the Holy Spirit in the Life of the Church) ni Pope John  Paul II “”blasphemy” does not properly consist in offending against the Holy Spirit in words; it consists rather in the refusal to accept the salvation which God offers to man through the Holy Spirit, working through the power of the Cross. If man rejects the “convincing concerning sin” which comes from the Holy Spirit and which has the power to save, he also rejects the “coming” of the Counselor-that “coming” which was accomplished in the Paschal Mystery, in union with the redemptive power of Christ’s Blood: the Blood which “purifies the conscience from dead works.””

      “The action of the Spirit of truth, which works toward salvific “convincing concerning sin,” encounters in a person in this condition an interior resistance, as it were an impenetrability of conscience, a state of mind which could be described as fixed by reason of a free choice. This is what Sacred Scripture usually calls “hardness of heart.””

      Kaya kayong mga “free and enlightened” thinkers, huwag maging matigas ang ulo na gustong isangtabi and utos ng Diyos para maging malaya kayo sa mali ninyong gawain.  Magbagong buhay kayo para maging kasiyahan sa inyo ang sundin ang kaloob ng Diyos.

  • Anonymous

    Cardinal, do you know if that the real Jesus Christ? Have you seen Him? Do you have evidence, any picture of any kind, that depicts the image in the exhibit is indeed our Lord Jesus Christ?  Cardinal, you are again imagining things. Unlike evidences against your bossings na sumulat requesting for a vehicle.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JS2L5G6FBKJH6VRAMERMCCJLIY Gagami Tuladyu

      IKAW may ibedensya ka ba na may UTAK kang pootah ka? sige pakita mo! ahihihi!  pinapakita mo na naman kabobohan mo sa pag-mamatalino mo dyan! ROfL! kung wala kang respeto sa paniniwala ng iba, dun ka sa north korea tumira, ogaG! ;)

    • Oliver Ausan

      Bakit hindi nya subukang lagyan ng titi na kahoy ang ulo ni mohammed o si allah. tingnan ko lang mabubuhay pa sya

    • Anonymous

      I don’t think you understand fully what the issue is all about. It’s about RESPECT for the beliefs and views of others (most especially for those that a certain group considers as truly important). Irregardless of whether you are a Catholic or not, one should never make intentional fun of what another deeply believes in.

      Just as we respect the beliefs, customs, and rituals of our brother katutubos, buddhists, and muslims, so should we respect the beliefs of Christians. That’s KINDERGARTEN 101. Freedom isn’t about doing whatever you can, it’s about doing what you ought.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LIKVUE2TEZLU6QPTOJBY4YRJTY Jay

        Fully agree with Freedom8485.

        The artists have rights to freedom of expression alright.  But that right ends, where the right of others begin.  Besides religion, I don’t think even basic sensibilities were respected by this supposed art work ie Penis on the forehead.   If I find it artistic to say “putang-ina mo!” to other people, would I be able to do that on the street without getting hurt?  I could even end up in jail for doing that.  As a Catholic and a Filipino citizen, I felt being on the receiving end of that “putang-ina mo” phrase in seeing this “art”.

    • Anonymous

      Kung hindi ka naniniwala sa bible, sa historical account ng mga tao, at sa martrydom ng napakaraming kristiano na hindi naman magbubuwis ang buhay nila kung hindi sila sigurado na totoo si Hesus, bahala ka na sa buhay mo. 

    • http://twitter.com/burndvinyard Burn Gutierrez

      These religious art of images or icons dont have to look like the exact original one. They are mere representations of someone with greater significance in the Christian belief. If Catholics (and Orthodox and mainline Protestants) believe these images represent Jesus, non-Christians or those who dont accept that belief should at least respect them. Imagination, as you said, plays a big part in the minds of those religious painters….at hindi bossing ni Cardinal Rosales yung nagrequest ng mga sasakyan, which is a different story altogether.

  • Anonymous

    there should be a law in the PH. against obscenity, irregardless of circumstances, ok; why not charge this artist and the promoters in the court of law to test that “law”, and this will compel even the government to enforce the law instead of using “catholic religion” to stop any obscenity, right? the catholic religion should not be used to enforce its ways in the country, the Ph according to the Constitution is a government of laws, and not of any religious persuasions and those catholic leadership in the country should lead the way to observe and protect such Constitution and not be instrumental in leading to trample it by doing their own method; disregard of the Constitution is very immoral for anyone!

  • Anonymous

    Hahaha funny news…

  • Anonymous

    Which is more compromising in moral stance: an artist who challenges a person’s perception about his faith by mocking at an image everybody knows is a product of hollywood imagination? or a bishop who gladly admits he succumbs to an evil act in the guise of serving the poor?

  • Anonymous

    RESPETO yan lang naman ang hiningi sa inyo. kung inaakala nyong mali ang katoliko at kayong mga nagsasabing mga kristyano na kayo ay tama, di nyo ba maatim na respetuhin kapwa nyo tao na may sarili ding paniniwala? ang hirap sa inyo para lang makilala kayo o masabi nyo na ito ang inaakala nyong tama kailangan bastusin nyo ang paniniwala ng katoliko. pagkatapos ano? magtatawanan kayo at sasabihin nyong ‘cool’, ‘neat’ ‘nice’ ‘great’ tsk tsk how about ‘bastos’ di nyo ba naisip yun?   

  • Anonymous

    These religious people are bunch of hypocrites. How can they be offended by the art exhibit when they keep quiet about their transgressions to mankind, e.g. child molestations, auto da fe, inquisitions, wars, witch hunts, etc! When the Greeks, made their gods mythical, science and technology prospered. Let’s make all gods mythical. I have to ask for an exception. Thor is real god, he has a hammer, and he can nail JHC(Jesus Hoser Christ) or any god to a two-piece wood. To express God in mathematical term. It/She/He is the square root of -1, imaginary.  In sesame street parlance Snufalufagus, pre-school kid term Santa Claus.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      Its your  square root of -1, imaginary.  In sesame street parlance Snufalufagus, I will put the penis of my father and pekpek of my mother, and I will explain to pre-school kid its Santa Claus. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ram-Ramirez/100002764270061 Ram Ramirez

        “Its your  square root of -1, imaginary.  In sesame street
        parlance Snufalufagus, I will put the penis of my father and pekpek of
        my mother, and I will explain to pre-school kid its Santa Claus.”

        If thats the way you want to do it, I won’t stop you, ingat lang baka makasuhan ka ng child molestation. Grabe ng mga suppressions mo, tell me how long have you had these thoughts? Hmmmm, are these recurring fantasies? hmmmmmm, if I’m not mistaken, medyo fixated ka yata sa phallic stage? hmmmmm…..

      • Anonymous

        We call that incestuous group sex in my neck of the woods but it is not illegal as long as no minors are involved and with full consent of all participants.  

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IPP5YYIWBIDJY6TBQCTQSTPO3Q Anonymous

      magpatingin ka cguro sa psychiatrist? cgro ako may tupak ka eh! he he!!!!

  • Anonymous

    “But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also” Matthew 5:39

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think Mr. Cruz as an artist. He is just a brainless irresponsible dog who wanted to be famous through  some controversial work of trash. If he really is a true lover of art why don’t he try applying his so called artistry to pictures of Mecca and see if he lasted a week for it. I’m 100% sure he will not have balls to do it.

    • Anonymous

      Call the artist whatever you please but he  easily goaded out the murderer in many Catholics. “Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.” 1 John 3:15

    • http://twitter.com/Bagdat Rowena Umapas-Abando

      gusto ko nga gumawa ng isang living art…Si Mr. Cruz mismo ang pinako ng wooden titi sa forehead niya dun sa cross with his blood dripping, with some old newspaper and GQ covers as his canvass….and they cannot call this murder or torture…its called ART…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SV465JA65DMOTXSJJWFAF4FBYM ady

    Nobody in his right mind will do that, those people responsible for the exhibit should be send to the mental hospital. Those people dont deserve publicity. Send the police and close the ccp complex, for God sake.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not a Roman Catholic. But I’m still offended by that act of disrespect. I agree to file a case to those persons responsible (though I think they are not in the essence of the word responsible). Official of CCP should be reminded that they are in their positions as public servant, so they should be careful not to disrespect public’s belief.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JY5Y7MAC3T3VA2DKLZHATJU6N4 Macario

    Let’s not allow religion to dictate on the course of art.  Art is free flowing and like water, seeks its own level.  If men like the Cardinal is followed we will bring back the days when a condemned heretic is burned at stake for expressing hearsay or performing blasphemy, crimes determined not by the courts but only by ecclesiastical inquisition.  Long live civil liberties, down with religious bigotry.

    • Anonymous

      You gotta be kidding. This so-called artist is agitating Christians to get his 15-minutes of fame. How cheap!

  • http://twitter.com/burndvinyard Burn Gutierrez

    How we pray that those who did this and those support these piece of “art” will never receive the same disrespect against their parents’ photos and tombstones by vandals.

  • Anonymous

    I felt sick to my stomach when I saw the offensive objects. I pray that these objects are removed from CCP. I would not want to go to CCP and I would ask fellow Christians to avoid this place which is dishonoring and desecrating the Lord our God.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=601331592 Louie Bonifacio

    While I understand the anger towards the artist, I do respect his freedom to express his ideas. Let us remember that not everyone is a believer of the Christian faith. I don’t know the reason of the artist but I imagine that this is his view about Christianity. If he is against Christianity, then we have to show tolerance to it. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/ianreyes09 Ian Reyes

      unbelief doesn’t give him the right to “disrespect” what alot of filipinos believe to be sacred… then u say u respect his freedom to express?? so if i tell u na BOBO ka… u’ll respect me because that’s how i view you and u have to show tolerance to it?? if ur answer is yes… then ur right and i’ m right na BOBO ka nga…. =)

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ram-Ramirez/100002764270061 Ram Ramirez

        hay naku, sinong masusunod, ang batas o yung opinyon mo? tingnan mo nga constitution natin pare.

      • Anonymous

        You DA man! You know some that these people don’t.  God, any god, does not care about the exhibit, He is busy make sure his plan to starve the children of Somalia are carried out. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

        oo nga ung batas ang masusunod kasi freedom of expression. pag galit ka nga sa magulang mo at kung kaninu sa pamilya mo lagyan mo ng titi sa noo sa picts nila. kasi krapatan mo yan.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=601331592 Louie Bonifacio

        Just because I show tolerance even if I am called a BOBO does not make me a BOBO. In fact that proves the contrary because me being tolerant makes me an open-minded person that would further enrich my knowledge. And besides no one will believe you if you say that because the achievements that I have accomplished will speak for themselves

  • http://www.facebook.com/brucespringstin Bruce Tuyay

    Hindi ba halata na isa itong plot upang madivert ang kamalayan ng tao mula sa CBCP SUV BISHOPS patungo sa ibang issue? Ganito kadesperado ang CBCP na malimutan ng tao ang SUV BISHOPS, dahil ito ay isang matinding bahid ng kahihiyan sa pangalan at mensahe ni Hesus, na siyang diyos at sinasamba ninyo. Mga tanga, mga mangmang, mga bulag, tignan nyo nga kung sino ang hangal, sampung taon nang buhay ang artwork na yan pero ngayon lang napuna, saktong sakto naman sa issue ng SUV BISHOPS! Hindi ba klarong klaro na sa lahat ng kayamanan ng Simbahang katolika ay taliwas na taliwas ang mga pinagagagawa ng mga obispong yan sa tunay na mensahe ni Hesus? Buksan nyo nga ang mga mata nyo, hindi yung nagagalit ka sa titi na inilagay kasama ang imahe ng panginoon sa isang obra, pero dun sa panlalapastangan ng mga pinuno ng simbahan sa mensahe ni Hesus, ayos lang na talikuran at balewalain! Hindi isang masamang panaginip na dapat nalang kalimutan ang panlalapastangan ng mga demonyong obispo na yan sa kahinaan at katangahan ng Pilipino! Napakalaki ng pinagakaiba kung ikukumpara mo sa isang materyal na bagay na kakainin ng lumot at lupa.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      brusses kaya mo ba e explain sa lahat ng bata ang sinsabi mo? ayayay. pag galit ka sa tatay mo e print mo  picts nya. wag mo na e paint mahirapan ka pa. tapos lagyan mo pekpek ng nanay mo. at e display sa labas ng bahay mo. artist ka d  ba do it. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ram-Ramirez/100002764270061 Ram Ramirez

        jeray, ikaw muna, ikaw nakaisip eh. :)

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ram-Ramirez/100002764270061 Ram Ramirez

        “tapos lagyan mo pekpek ng nanay mo. at e display sa labas ng bahay mo. artist ka d  ba do it. ”
        sino kayang bastos dito?  – Res ipsa loquitur

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

        bakit d mo mgawa?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

        anu ba pinagkaiba ng titi ng kamaganak sa nilagay dun. gawin mo para matauhan ka.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ram-Ramirez/100002764270061 Ram Ramirez

        why, hindi ko naman naisip yun, ikaw na nga lang kasi parang atat na atat ka na, pagbigyan mo na sarili mo, sige.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

        basos ngayon dahil nanay mo? anu ba mas mahal mo diyos o ang nanay mo?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ram-Ramirez/100002764270061 Ram Ramirez

    Where was this righteous indignation when there were members of CBCP exposed re SUV’s? If they really wanted to imitate Christ some cardinal should have castigated these bishops for turning the house of god into a den of thieves! – thats biblical by the way. But this reaction is not in the bible, why do they call themselves christians when they have no intention of imitating christ at all?
    Let them file a case against these artists and we’ll see what happens, I bet they already know thats why they resort to harassment.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      kaw malamang. artist ka ba? pa print ka ng picture ng nanay mo at lagyan ng ari nya. to be more artistic laliman mo pa emahinasyon mo, lagyan mo rin ng ari ng tatay mo. sama mo rin ang ari ng mga katpatid mo at e display kasi freedooooooooooooooooooom!!!!!!!!!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ram-Ramirez/100002764270061 Ram Ramirez

        nope, wala naman akong gustong iexpress tungkol sa parents ko, pahingi ng lang picture ng nanay at tatay mo/ photoshop ko gawin kong mukhang tao :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ram-Ramirez/100002764270061 Ram Ramirez

    “Section 4 of Article III (Bill of Rights) of the Constitution which provides:
    No law shall be passed abridging the freedom of speech, of expression, or of the
    press, or the right of the people to peaceably assemble and petition the
    government for redress of grievances.”

    These fanatic vandals are ignorant of the law, its taken up in Polsci1 in college, everybody knows this. WTF? File a case against these artists already tingnan natin kung sino ang pupulutin sa kangkungan?

  • Anonymous

    The problem is pag merong isang sira ulong gumawa ng walang katuturang object at idinisplay sa CCP eh “art” na daw yon at yung sira ulo eh “artist” na..Sinong mas sira ulo? 

  • Anonymous

    There seems to be no shortage of hypocrites in our society.  This is a country that banned showing of the movie the ” Piano”,  Erap’s Biography and many others depicting Jesus Christ in a scandalous manner.  Yet, look up the metro skylines and see what the billboards are showing?  Go inside movie theatres and find out how we are doing in morality among today’s celebrities?  Walk by avenues and see some of the tabloids peddled by minors?  When you have few bishops falling into the crevice wanting to be driven in SUV’s, do these church people have credibility protesting things of this nature?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      meron dapat umpisahan mo sa sarili mo. alam mo ba ibig sabihin ng church? search mo para maisisi mo sarili mo.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ram-Ramirez/100002764270061 Ram Ramirez

        I grew up in a devout catholic family, I studied in catholic schools since kindergarten, I was an altar boy (sacristan) from elementary to high school, every Sunday as far as I can remember I did the first reading, or responsorial psalm or prayer of the faithful. I can still taste the mompo in my mouth, I can still taste the unblessed hostias which I normally take as breakfast kung napaaga ako. I still know when to ring the bell or the xylophone during mass, I still smell the incense, I still memorize the angelus, the apostles creed, the act of contrition, I could still remember the pattern for confessing, I could probably search appropriate verses still in the bible faster than you. All this time but I never deleveloped intolerance or that hypocritic warrior for christ attitude, I’m imperfect as a catholic – yan ang lamang mo sa akin.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ram-Ramirez/100002764270061 Ram Ramirez

        I dare you kung pahabaan ng oras spent in the simbahan, sa patay, sa fiesta sa ibat ibang barrio baka mapahiya ka lang.

      • Anonymous

        I haven’t the foggiest idea what you are referring to.  If you really want to communicate your thoughts with individuals you deemed offended your sensibilities, don’t write in riddles.  Better still – time to eradicate this Pinoy culture of “pasarings’ this attitude had caused so many deaths and misunderstanding among Filipinos.  I have long ago decided my religion is between me and GOD I don’t need middlemen such as priest telling me how to be good to my fellow men.  I don’t need to go to a church to say my prayers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ram-Ramirez/100002764270061 Ram Ramirez

    Nagpapaniwala kayo sa mga bishops na yan, in the rest of the world they are losing influence, protestant churches are growing, Islam is even growing faster and the difference with these other religions is that its a “choice” made by a mature individual,  you don’t just get born to it like catholics. Kaya ayaw nila sa RH bill, if population growth is curbed they lose their source of members – children born as catholics.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      epal kaninu manilwa kay superman. di du ka sa relihiyon mo. ang galing mo. sabihin mo relihhiyon mo at e discribe kung gaanu ka galing.
       

    • Anonymous

      Hindi naman po kami nakikipagparamihan ng members. If the other churches are growing then congratulations and I hope they can form and educate well their members to be good and upright individuals true to their faith in God.

  • Anonymous

    Nice punchline. “Can you do that to your own father?” He hehee!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ram-Ramirez/100002764270061 Ram Ramirez

    How dare they talk about Rizal, dig up our history, where were Rizal’s remains found? I a cemetery for  the excommunicated, the low lifes. A bunch of lying hypocrites but they’re entitled nevertheless to say their peace.

  • Anonymous

    Another thing to ponder is, was the exhibitor of this article holding a gun forcing everyone in the country to view  the work?  It can be likened to a TV remote control where if you don’t like what you see – either change channels or turn it off.  Like I said, in our country, we are such hypocrites. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ram-Ramirez/100002764270061 Ram Ramirez

      Yun na nga eh, itong mga to sinadya pa talaga CCP ang layo nun, gumastos pa ng gas na ang mahal na ngayon, ewan ko kung may bayad ba ang entrance, pumasok pa, sabay “yuck kadire to death!”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ram-Ramirez/100002764270061 Ram Ramirez

    goodnight folks especially you jeray, i enjoyed exchanging thoughts with you, i meant no offense, keep up the good fight on your end, ako rin on my end. :)

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      night, pray ka muna

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      alam ko na favorite mo si superman d dahil macho sya. kundi dahil naka brief sya. night night night.

  • Anonymous

    “He said that if the CCP exhibit was not stopped, others might follow and also degrade other religions, not just Christianity.”

    Correction, Eric Manalang.  It is Roman Catholics who are offended by the art exhibit. Not Christians. The uproar that the iconoclastic art has sparked clearly shows there is a great difference between Roman Catholics and followers of Christ. The latter  obey the teachings of Christ to forgive those who wrong them and not to return evil for evil. But the Roman Catholics who have so far reacted to the art exhibit clearly do not want to turn the other cheek as Christ has taught.

     

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Cardona/100002099740807 Mike Cardona

      Well said. The fundamentalist wing of the Catholic Church completely forgot tolerance, humility, patience and “turning the other cheek” teachings of Christ. Disappointing. They are acting like the Pharisees during Jesus’ time.

      • Anonymous

        I do not know if a fundamentalist wing as a formal organization really exists within the Catholic Church. But for an ordinary Catholic, protesting against something that desecrates something or Someone that deserve love and respect is not contrary to the virtues of tolerance, humility, patience and turning the other cheek. Christ also taught justice, responsibility and respect of one’s neighbor. We are not stupid and blind to receive wholeheartedly such mockery. We only wish to defend and protect what we hold dear and just. Is that being a pharisee?

    • http://twitter.com/burndvinyard Burn Gutierrez

      The Metropolitan Baptist Church and other Christian churches are also part of the movement against this current circus.

  • Anonymous

    he chose to desecrate christians because if he did that to the muslim religion, he’s already dead. i know for sure that it is not an expression of art but it is his expression of hate towards christianity. otherwise, i’d challenge him to do it against muslims, i’m sure di niya gagawin since it’s like painting his death certificate.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Cardona/100002099740807 Mike Cardona

      First, please stop stereotyping Muslims. Only a minority of them are fundamentalist radicals. Second, not all Christians are offended, just some of the Roman Catholics. Other Christians see the Catholics’ use of images as sacrilegious.

      • Anonymous

        I did not say that all are radical. Of course there are many peaceful Muslims. Whether there are some who are radicals and some who are peaceful, he would still be killed because of the radicals. That’s what I meant. I’m sure all of the RCs are offended. The differences between Christians do not condone disrespect against the other.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XEQVKBXLOSPGK6EPFGO5HYQFXU Stean

      the Muslims would be very insulted to see you presume them to be violent.

      • Anonymous

        You’re right. My apologies to the non-violent and good Muslims. I’m referring to the extreme ones. Like those who are hungting down Salman Rushdee.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XEQVKBXLOSPGK6EPFGO5HYQFXU Stean

    There are no art critics and curators on the side of the CBCP. Why should they have a say on what art should be like in this country?

  • Anonymous

    All these comments that if people behind the iconoclastic
    art show are really brave, they should  similarly treat the image of Mohammed miss the
    point. The declared purpose of  CCP
    president Emily Abrera and  artist Mideo Cruz  for  exhibiting the now controversial
    collage  is  “to look behind the surface and  try to dig out what our real values
    are.”  That many Muslims run amok when their religious figures are
    blasphemed is already  established so there is no need to probe that. On
    the other hand, local Catholics have been able to carry on a semblance of
    Christianity even when their religion is challenged like in the case of the RH
    Bill. Abrera and Mideo wanted to find out how far the Christianity of local
    Catholics will hold and  found out that
    when you scratch the religious sensibilities of  Filipino Catholic deep
    enough, you will increase the worldwide population of intolerant Muslims.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XEQVKBXLOSPGK6EPFGO5HYQFXU Stean

    God has far better things to do than worry about a petty little art exhibit. It’s these self-righteous Catholics who think it’s all about them and making it look like a big deal. Do you really believe God is that petty? Get a life!

    • Anonymous

      TUMPAK!  Peborit pastaym ng mga Pinoy yan…..pinalalaki ang walang ka-kwneta-kwentang bagay!  Daming mga malalaki at mahahalagang pagtutuunan ng pansin tulad ng mga pari at mga obsipong may kabit at anak, naglalakihang mga tiyan ng mga alagad (kuno) ng Diyos samantalang ang mga hinihinginan nilang abuloy at suporta ay nakatira sa labangan at nagpapa-alila sa mga banyaga, uma-apaw ng kayamanan ng simbahan at mga religious orders sa dami ng investment sa stocks at real estate, eskwelahan, at farms samantalang yong naghihikahos nilang mga tagasunod na parang tupa ay halos hindi kumakain sa oras, at mga naglalakihang mala-palasyong tirahan sa New Manila habang ang kanilang mga “kapatid sa panalangin” ay na mumulot ng basura para maka-kain.

  • Anonymous

    maybe the artist is not depecting Jesus Christ. there are many who died on a cross in early times as punishment for a crime…

  • Anonymous

    Remember another movie not shown in the country led by the do gooders in the country?  Yes,  Martin Scorsese’s 1988 “The Last Temptation of Christ” The late Jaime cardinal Sin led the assault on that as if it made many Filipinos more civil and non violent.

  • Anonymous

    What would you expect, we are a morally bankrupt society. Government and Church Officials are corrupt, do you expect our children to grow up with the fear of God? Unless we change and be an example to those people that we lead, we should not expect anything more from our children.

  • Anonymous

    Ang layo ng argumento ng, “magagawa mo ba yan sa tatay mo?”  Anong kinalaman ng tatay sa isyu?  At kung papatulan ang argumentong yan, heto ang balik na tanong:”bakit ninyo ginagawa sa Diyos ninyo ang mga bagay na hindi lamang hindi maka-diyos, bagkos ay hindi maka-tao: ang pang-aabuso sa mga bata, ang pakiki-apid, ang pagkakaroon ng anak habang naka-saya, ang pagsasamsam ng kayamanang hindi masukat sa dami, ang pagsisinugaling sa mga napapaniwala ninyo, ang pagmamalabis sa position na itinalaga ninyo sa inyong mga sarili, ampb????”

    Ganyan ng mga yan…..dinadaan sa EMOTION at Ad Hominem ang kanilang mga argumento kapag gustong guluhin ang usapan at gatungan ang kanilang mga kabig na alam nilang hindi kayang mag-isip at puro sunod-sunuran na lang na mistulang mga kalabaw na may tali sa nguso dahil sa walang-humpay nilang pagsasanay noon pang panahon ng kastila hanggang sa mga sandaling ito.  Salamat na lang at marami na ding mga kabayan ang unti-unting namumulat sa katotohanan at namamalas at nararanasan nila ang kapalstikan ng mga nagpapastol sa kanilang kaisipan sapul pa sa pagka-bata nila.

  • Anonymous

    Nakalungkot na ang Pilipinas, a Catholic country, will allow this kind of artistry kuno. Ipinagmamalaki ko pa mandin na ako ay Pilipino dahil sa pagmamahal natin at paggalang sa Dios, pero ngayon, hiyang-hiya akong masabing Pilipino.  Kahit dito sa Canada, ikinahihiya nang mga Pilipino ang ginawang pag-alipusta sa mahal na Poon.

  • http://www.facebook.com/serge.imperio Serge Imperio

    in answer to the question the artist would probably say “yes, for the sake of art”, but won’t actually do it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/serge.imperio Serge Imperio

    should  contemporary art or culture be anti-church or anti-establishment? is it necessary that they offend the taste of the believers? they say that art imitates life; but i don’t think even the staunchest detractors and critics of the church in government would create those works of art if given the talent or chance.

  • Anonymous

    It is simple Mideo Cruz has no way of getting popular as artist but to resort to this kind of stupid painting. He cannot keep abreast with such good artist that portray quality good painting that enhance beauty. He is not an artist but a paranoid and deluded man. Kulang sa pansin  itong tao na ito. We should not talk about him. The country is in trouble and to add more this trouble is a big big big more trouble for us. There is no justification for this mischievous kind of painting.

  • Anonymous

    Kung ako lang ang nandiyan babasagin ko ang pag mumukha niyang medeo cruz na iyan. Hindi ganyan ang kultura ng mga taong matino ang pag iisip. Baka pati nanay niyan eh nilalagyan titi sa bunganga.

  • Anonymous

    I do not know if a fundamentalist wing as a formal organization really exists within the Catholic Church. But for an ordinary Catholic, protesting against something that desecrates something or Someone that deserve love and respect is not contrary to the virtues of tolerance, humility, patience and turning the other cheek. Christ also taught justice, responsibility and respect of one’s neighbor. We are not stupid and blind to receive wholeheartedly such mockery. We only wish to defend and protect what we hold dear and just. Is that being a pharisee?   

  • dielyn_03

    Buti na lang mga Kristiyano tayo. Kung nangyari yan kay Mohammad o kay Allah, patay na yang mga nag-exhibit.

  • Anonymous

    Kapag nakita niyo sa kangkungan ang katawan niyang medeo cruz na iyan, tanging ang mga taong nagpapatakbo ng CCP ang puwede niyong sisihin dahil hindi sila gumawa ng paraan para mapigil ang galit  ng nakararami.Tandaan niyo iyan.

    • Anonymous

      ikaw naman jun magalang, wag ganyan dapat kasama sina abrera at sunico

  • http://www.facebook.com/lsalvan1 Lex Salvan

     He must be punished and suffer the consequencies..he is a very bad example especially to youngsrters a bad influence to everyone..and a great sin against God Almighty. A barbaric act against Christianity..Crruz like to gain fame but loses his integrity.. what a mess…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JY5Y7MAC3T3VA2DKLZHATJU6N4 Macario

      I disagree.  What he did was an expression of his impression of life around him, and he should not be censured for expressing his opinion.  I think he wanted to say, without appearing to second guess the artist himself, that religious belief, personified by the face of Jesus Christ, and family planning, represented by the sculptured penis,  cannot go together.  That’s an opinion and he still enjoys the freedom of expression even if his medium appears to scandalize some of us.

      • http://profiles.google.com/bmanlats Leary Adams Tenorio

        Freedom has its limits… without it… there’s no Law…

        nice… i want to enjoy this kind of freedom too… i’d like to see a picture of you mom doing 50 black men… and put it in an Art Exhibit, or you doing your sister… what do you think?

    • Anonymous

      big mess really! what more CCP cannot discern. lol!

    • Anonymous

      He who has not sin cast the first stone………………………tahimik na lahat

  • Anonymous

    ‘A widespread assumption, which nearly everybody in our society accepts – the non-religious included – is that religious faith (i.e. the so-called “virtue”, i use the word advisedly, of believing in something on NO EVIDENCE at all) is especially vulnerable to offense and should be protected by an ABNORMALLY THICK WALL OF RESPECT, in a different class from the respect any human being should pay to any other.

    Douglas Adams puts it so well by saying:

    ‘Religion … has certain ideas at the heart of it which we call sacred or holy or whatever. What it means is, “Here is an idea or notion that you’re not allowed to say anything bad about; you’re just not. Why not? – because you’re not!’ If somebody votes for a party that you don’t agree with, you’re free to argue about it as much as you like; everybody will have an argument but nobody feels aggrieved by it. If somebody thinks taxes should go up or down you are free to have an argument about it. But on the other hand if somebody say “I musn’t move a light switch on a Saturday,” you say, “I respect that.”   Why should it be that it’s perfectly legitimate to support the Labour party or the Conservative party, Republicans or Democrats, this model of economics versus that, Macintosh instead of Windows – but to have an opinion about how the Universe began, about who created the Universe … no, that’s holy? … We are not used to challenging religious ideas … Yet when you look at it rationally there is no reason why those ideas shouldn’t be as open to debate as any other, except that we have agreed somehow between us that they shouldn’t be.’

    • Anonymous

      tumigil ka…enjoy na enjoy ka sa kahibangan mo.

  • Anonymous

    Ang mga Pinoy ay talagang kulang sa disiplina sa toto-o lang. Kahit sa mga comment ng iilan na nilalagay dine ay wala man lang ka-unting respeto na binibigay sa namumuno ngayon sa Pinas. Iisang ta-on palang ang naging presidente ang gustong mangyari ay resolba na ang problema ng Pinas.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1465974805 Adan Cabeltes

    It is the modern persecution of faith…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002177958155 Rem Inders

    Bilang na araw ng kupal na yan at ang mga katulad niyang bastos. Freedom of expression rin ang tatapos sa kanila, mga putang ina ng mga yan. 

    • Anonymous

       rem inders , wag sunugin ang ccp , kailanagn natin yan bilang pilipino ,meron namang bahay sina abrera at sunico at cruz for arts sake din he he he la akong sinab,i sabi nga nung alysa pulis dyan ituro lang daw sa kanya he he he wag nang tigilan yang mga hayup na yan.

    • Anonymous

      Ikaw naman, ayaw mong ma desecrate ang image ni Jesus tapos nagmumura ka ng matalim. Demonyo ka rin naman pala eh. O huwag magagalit!  Sabi nga ni Susan Roces, Ikaw ang May Sabi Niyan! hahaha

      • Anonymous

        God bless you for what you are saying and may He forgive you for what you have done.

  • http://www.facebook.com/petermarlon Marlon Halili Exmundo

    Some artists think that artistic freedom is absolute. Let’s paraphrase the Cardinal’s question to “What will they feel if another artist, in exercising his freedom, do the same to their parents and/or other beloved family members?”

  • Anonymous

    Supposing the venue was not the CCP.  Instead the exhibit was done in a private residence or some type of a warehouse office unit.  Will the bleeding hearts pressure and/or – insist the owner of the venue shut it down?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002177958155 Rem Inders

      if it’s a PRIVATE venue, it means only people who are INVITED can come.. meaning.. the owner invited them, knows them, there will be no offense at all. Think about it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002177958155 Rem Inders

    KILLING for some is an art too. If it’s freedom of expression, we might as well do it to people like you. FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Reynold-Pelejo/100000404005294 Reynold Pelejo

    Let this message got thru to the attention of CCP artists(kuno), why do try putting similar “THING” above the book of Koran as an art expression. SIGURADO, di na kayo sikatan ng susunod na araw! ! !

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4QTV3BT5UNCEGW5YKPJHKBDTGE Jorell

    Sang-ayon ako na dapat meron limitasyon ang kanilang artistic freedom.  Dapat igalang ang paniniwala ng ibang Pinoy. 

    Meron lang akong tanong, diba nasa Bibliya na huwag magdasal sa mga imahen?  Ang larawan ba na nasa exhibit ay ang tunay na larawan ni Jesus? 

    • Anonymous

      Yan ang tunay na sagot. Sino ba sa inyo ang makakapagpatunay na iyan nga ang larawan o itsura ni Jesus Christ? Pati nga ang cross,hindi lang kay Jesus, thousands have been crucified during the Great Roman Years. Sobra naman kayong maarte.

      • lucidlynx

        in fact, forensic anthropologists have come up with research and pointed out that the image we know of Jesus is not correct. Jesus is usually depicted as a white male with long hair and a beard. during Jesus’ time, the people who lived in ancient Jerusalem did not look like that. they were dark-skinned and have flat noses. Jesus was a Jew. only the Romans were white and Jesus was not a Roman. the same thing with the Apostles.

        that’s why Judas has to kiss Jesus to turn him over to the Romans because the Romans could not tell him apart from his disciples.

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/eJIsOdULrZfH5qDCelZlu2LOsV0-#ded6b ray

        sa usapin na to hindi pinag uusapan kung ano ba talaga ang larawan ni jesus. ang pinag uusapan dito eh aming paniniwala sa pangalan nya so kung ayaw na maniwala kay jesus eh sarilinin mo na lang ang wag mong bastusin ang aming paniniwala. At ikaw naman eh hindi namin pakikialaman kahit sino pa ang iyong sambahin.Dapat we respect each other sa lahat ng aspeto. At hindi yan ang sinasabi mo na arte.

  • Anonymous

    typical catholic fundamentalists making statements like:

    1. “had this happened to the images of the prophet mohammad, the muslims would be out in the streets rioting and burning the ccp.”

    2. “This is because the Christianity / Catholicism is a bit more tolerant and a lot more forgiving (Which I am proud of).”

    3. “try putting similar “THING” above the book of Koran as an art expression. SIGURADO, di na kayo sikatan ng susunod na araw! ! !”

    such condescending statements made with SUCH HUBRIS, PRIDE, ARROGANCE…only shows that Religion is nothing but “EGO, masquerading as Humility.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkv6zw4gnKU

  • Anonymous

    He he he.Kailangan pang i approve bago i publish. Kasi nga kasama kayo sa mga nabanggit kung bakit sumikat sila.

  • Anonymous

    I  am neither an artist nor a believer and what I see here are rights in conflict with each other: freedom of expression and freedom of religion. These  two freedoms are guaranteed no less by the Constitution and sanctions are provided  for their violations. Now, between the two, in the given state of things, religion is primordial in my opinion. More wars fought and more people have died for it, past and present. One must not  ignore the primacy even under the aegis of freedom of expression which must take the back seat. Afterall, and art is defined  as a creation of beautiful  and not offensive things.

  • Marlouie M Ugalde

    excommunicate that idiot artist… such a tasteless artistry.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QVER7ECEH2FTUMIZ5GOJACVHY aaron b

    ksp itong si mideo cruz. papansin. tagumpay siya kasi nga ayan, pinag-uusapan na siya. sumikat na siya although for the wrong reasons. obvious naman na ang gagawin nyang palusot eh freedom of expression, kaso sumobra naman to the point na naging offensive. i give this issue a month at the most tapos wla na, limot na ng mga tao.

  • http://twitter.com/Paquito_Mar Marlouie M Ugalde

    that clown would be better excommunicated. such a tasteless art.

  • http://twitter.com/sirjopz sir jopz

    do you think the CCP management would be emboldened to allow the exhibition of such “hindi matuwid” na art if the the supposedly “tuwid na daan” appointing power has deep respect for the catholic church? “Santa” cory saan ka nagkamali sa pagpapalaki ng mga anak mo? Knock his head….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IPP5YYIWBIDJY6TBQCTQSTPO3Q Anonymous

    is freedom of expression also states its okay to desecrates or insult other peoples sensibilities especially it is sacrilegious ?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OAZENQIV4TJN2JUKJMZILWQP6Q RASor

    Sad that the so called artist is an alumnus of UST (as said in other print media). What have the Dominican Priests been teaching their students.

    In the exercise of our freedom of expression there are limits and one limitation is to recognize and respect the rights of others. This is what being civilized is all about – not only focusing on us, but also on them – we are not alone in this world.

  • Anonymous

    ‘A widespread assumption, which nearly everybody in our society accepts –
    the non-religious included – is that religious faith (i.e. the
    so-called “virtue”, i use the word advisedly, of believing in something
    on NO EVIDENCE at all) is especially vulnerable to offense and should be
    protected by an ABNORMALLY THICK WALL OF RESPECT, in a different class
    from the respect any human being should pay to any other.

    Douglas Adams puts it so well by saying:

    ‘Religion
    … has certain ideas at the heart of it which we call sacred or holy
    or whatever. What it means is, “Here is an idea or notion that you’re
    not allowed to say anything bad about; you’re just not. Why not? –
    because you’re not!’ If somebody votes for a party that you don’t agree
    with, you’re free to argue about it as much as you like; everybody will
    have an argument but nobody feels aggrieved by it. If somebody thinks
    taxes should go up or down you are free to have an argument about it.
    But on the other hand if somebody say “I musn’t move a light switch on a
    Saturday,” you say, “I respect that.”   Why should it be that it’s
    perfectly legitimate to support the Labour party or the Conservative
    party, Republicans or Democrats, this model of economics versus that,
    Macintosh instead of Windows – but to have an opinion about how the
    Universe began, about who created the Universe … no, that’s holy? …
    We are not used to challenging religious ideas … Yet when you look at
    it rationally there is no reason why those ideas shouldn’t be as open to
    debate as any other, except that we have agreed somehow between us that
    they shouldn’t be.’

  • Anonymous

    RELIGION is the poison of every country.Kaya majority hindi na umuunlad. Corrupt. Dictadors. Manloloko!

  • Anonymous

    He who has not sin cast the first stone………………………tahimik na lahat

    • Anonymous

      putang ina mo pakita_ko Sayo, ako makasalanan ako kaya ayoko ng binabastos ako, kahit sa impyerno ako mapunta basta di ako papayag na lagyan mo ng kabastusan ang tanging inaasahan kung magliligtas sa akin. ano naman nagawa mo sa bayan aber, puro ka reklamo ng mga corrupt na politiko, kumilos ka wag ngawngaw, paduda ka na maraming alam kuno

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F2TRLEMXRJF3ROSJ7OPACP4R7Y raoul

    what do we think of that artist? nothing less or more than what the arroyos did to the filipino people, insulting the intelligence and conscience of the majority of the filipinos who are catholics. they both have the same thinking and probably values that were brought not by wise thinking but abusive attitude to do whatever they want to in achieving self satisfaction however and whoever it hurts.  If the family of arroyos tolerated and enjoyed what they are doing, probably the same too with the artist’s family. 

  • Anonymous

    I would like to make sure I got the issue correctly.  It is perfectly alright for the public to see billboards where sexy men and women in scantly clad advertising underwears in suggestive positions?  On the other, the bleeding hearts are offended on some articles being shown in private viewing in a venue where you don’t need to come if you feel it is an affront to your sensibilities.  Whatever happened to the adage – “It’s different strokes for different folks?”. The hypocrisy is truly astonishing.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

    mag nanakaw ako ng picts nag tatay at nanay ng artist na yan. at lagyan ko din sa noo para sikat din ako.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001328584574 Edwin Gonzaga

      ok yan jeray. para maramdaman ng mga ito kung paano an mabastos in the guise of art daw. mga bugok. kung islam lang yan baka ubos na lahi nyo. remember what salman rusdie did?

    • antonioluna

      gawin mo, pero ikaw at ang artist ay nakatitiyak na imahin nga ng nanay at tatay nya iyon kung sakaling makakuha ka nga, ang kaibahan ng larawan ng nanay at tatay nya na sinasabi mo ay nakatitiyak tayo na larawan nga iyon ng mga magulang nya pero ikaw nakatitiyak ka ba na imahin ni jesuschrist ang ginamit nya sa kanyang art exhibit o ang imahin na iyon ay pinaniniwalaan lang na si jesuschrist. mahirap kasi kung titingnan lagi natin ang pangyayari na sarado ang isip at puro emosyon ang namamayani.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002177958155 Rem Inders

        ang punto dun yung paglagay ng titi sa mukha si Jesus man yun o hindi. eh kung nanay mo lagyan ko ng titi sa mukha, ok lang sayo? mas sarado pa isip mo.

      • antonioluna

        ang nanay ko kasi alam ko ang itsura at sigurado ako sya nga iyon, sa kabilang banda nagpapatunay lang ang mga sagot ninyo na sumasamba kayo sa mga imahin hindi sa tunay na Dios na ispiritu at walang mukha, bago ka manggalaiti alamin mo muna ang perspektibo ng artist, sabagay baka hindi mo rin maintindihan kasi sa ngayon pa lang kitang kita kung gaano ka kababaw mag isip.

      • Anonymous

        @antonioluna, yon ng paniniwala mo, pano naman ang paniniwala ng iba? sasabihin mo ba na mas tama ka? Respeto lang pre wag maging Bigot.  

      • antonioluna

        ibabalik ko sa iyo ang tanong mo, paano na rin ang paniniwala ni cruz, bakit hindi mo rin irespeto na ganon ang paniniwala nya?

      • Anonymous

        Dahil sarili nya lang ang inisip nya. Bakit di mo ibigay ang larawan mo ke Cruz para yong ang gamitan nya ng kanyang art? Kung ang watawat nga natin, bawal babuyin ano pa kaya ang espiritual na pananiniwala ng bawat isa. Kung lahat ng paniniwala e rerespetuhin, pano yung mga racist at white supremacist?

      • antonioluna

        may sinabi ba akong tama o mali?sinagot ko lang ang salitang sarado ang aking isip, sa isang saradong isip walang puwang ang mga bagong idea, walang puwang ang pagbabago, walang puwang ang pag unlad ng pag iisip.

      • Anonymous

        Pero di sa tonong para kang ikaw lang ang magaling at dapat paniwalaan.

      • http://twitter.com/burndvinyard Burn Gutierrez

        brother, kung sinasamba ng mga Katoliko ang mga imahen, bakit kailangan pa nilang tumanggi? totoo naman na Espiritu anf Dios at walang mukha. Pero sa paniniwala ng Katoliko, nagkatawang tao ang Dios (Ang verbo ay nagkatawang tao). Eh hindi pa naman uso ang digicam nuon di ba? So artists’ perspective lang ang ginamit. For sure, itsurang tao (Palestinian) si Jesus kaya nag-come up ng ganyang itsura ang mga imahen ni Kristo. Common sense na lang yan.

      • http://twitter.com/f_mahusay Francisco L. Mahusay

        hindi ka si siguro Kristiyano. Ang Kristiyano ay naniniwala na ang totoong Dios samantalang hindi tumigil sa pagka Dios ay naging tao rin kung kaya nagtataglay na rin ng mukha.

      • http://twitter.com/f_mahusay Francisco L. Mahusay

        hindi maikakaila na ang artist ay may kalayaang pangsining. ngunit hindi rin maikakaila na ang lahat ng kalayaan ay hangganan. ang hangganan ay ang simula ng kalayaan ng iba. dapat kung matuwid ang isip ng artist, ay isipin niya kung makakatapak ba siya ng kalayaan ng iba habang nagpapahayag siya ng kalayaan ng iba.

      • Anonymous

        It’s all about respect

      • http://twitter.com/f_mahusay Francisco L. Mahusay

        walang nakakaalam sa ngayon ng totong hitsura ni Hesukristo, ang Dios na nagkatawang tao. pero ang simbahang Katoliko ay gumagamit ng simbolo or representasyon ni Hesukristo at yan ay hindi lingid kaninoman. tanging pagkukuwanri ang magbibigay ng pahintulot sa isang tao na sabihin na hindi niya alam ang hitsura ng simbolo o representasyon ni Hesukristo. kung ganun at alam ng artist na ang simbolo o imahen na ginamit niya ay hawig sa simbolo na ginagamit ng mga Kristiyano, matuwid lamang na igalang niya ito sa paraang naaayon sa inaasahan ng mga Kristiyano. kung ginawa niya ang lahat ng kanyang pambabastos sa loob lamang ng kanyang silid at lingid sa kaalaman ng mga Kristiyano, wala sanang ganoong reaksyon na dapat asahan mula sa Obispo. ngunit dahil na nga sa ang mga pangyayari ay hayagan, hindi maiiwasang maramdaman ng mga Kristiyano na ang kanilang mga karapatan at kalayaan ay hindi iginagalang.

  • antonioluna

    i see nothing wrong with the art exhibit, that is not jesuschrist it’s only an image, an image nobody sure who’s face was it except we were made to believe it is the image of jesuschrist. i am not artist but let us try to interpret the image, imagine the face is the church, that church is now polluted by trash and sex, could that be the message that the artist is trying to communicate?

  • Anonymous

    I can’t see what the fuss is all about.  On one side, there is this guy who presented an exhibit, which to my mind, was tasteless.  On the other side is the group of offended parties including the bishops.  The guy, a certain Mr. Cruz, just presented his “art”.  What is wrong with that?  On the other side, the bishops were lashing him out because of what they consider an insult to their religion.  I don’t get it why the bishops would think that an exhibit would insult their religion.  As a Catholic (yes, I am a Catholic), I don’t think my religion is based on an image/picture.  True, the exhibit may be offensive to some, but what did Mr. Cruz really say with the exhibit (other than his “art” is bad, and if I were him, I would not quit my day job)?  Was it pornographic?  (Nobody claimed that the exhibit was pornographic.)  Not that I will defend Mr. Cruz, but when we talk of the freedom of expression and freedom of religion, we should celebrate that we live in a society that allows tasteless (trashy seems more accurate) exhibits, in the same manner that the society allows those people doing “penitensiya” during Holy Week.  What’s actually wierd is that I did not hear this uproar when sexual abuses (some were even inflicted to minors) by the leaders of the Catholic Church were exposed.  To my mind, such acts were the ones that are truly offensive (and criminal!).  They should have felt insulted that some priests/bishops used religion to abuse other people, including children, and should have disassociated such priests/bishops from the religion. (A more recent example was when a certain bishop solicited for a brand new SUV as a birthday gift.  The bishop was well within his rights to request for such gift, but is the Catholic religion really about such things?  Real missionaries and priests should have felt insulted by such acts.)  But, alas, we hardly heard a whimper.

    • http://twitter.com/burndvinyard Burn Gutierrez

      well, we did hear a lot of noise from the Catholic camp itself. it was a Catholic priest (Fr. Robert Reyes) and his group who actually divulged those anomalies between the GMA Queendom and her bishops. 

      • http://twitter.com/f_mahusay Francisco L. Mahusay

        ang layo. is this a joke?

    • http://twitter.com/f_mahusay Francisco L. Mahusay

      “I can’t see what the fuss is all about. On one side, there is this guy who presented an exhibit, which to my mind, was tasteless.”  

      Tasteless. Maybe worse.

      “On the other side is the group of offended parties including the bishops. The guy, a certain Mr. Cruz, just presented his ‘art’. What is wrong with that? ”

      His art makes use of symbols that belong to a particular group. Have you not heard of the reaction of the NHI to interpretations of the national anthem that is not in accord with its original design?  A group has the right to protest when its symbols are appropriated by others and not given due respect.

      “On the other side, the bishops were lashing him out because of what they consider an insult to their religion. I don’t get it why the bishops would think that an exhibit would insult their religion. As a Catholic (yes, I am a Catholic), I don’t think my religion is based on an image/picture.”  

      Religion like all other human preoccupations cannot be separated from their external expressions. Man, as an embodied entity, naturally expresses himself in bodily and sensible forms. Although, man is able to make mental and conceptual distinctions between God and the representations of God, annoyance, resentment is a natural reaction when his representations of God is not given due respect.

      .

      • shane oy

        okay then put a dick on the picture of your mother and make a parade at EDSA try lang. you will know if your brothers or sisters (if you have) will be happy about it. 

      • antonioluna

        shane oy, tama ba ang lohika mo? ikinukumpara mo ang isang bagay na pangrelihiyon at pangpamilya.

  • Anonymous

    I think more than of his art zeal being at fault, it is us Filipinos who should take the blame?  WHY?  We pride ourselves living in a democratic way enjoying freedoms the system entitles every living souls in our country.  Do you think this would have been possible in communist countries like China?, North Korea and others?  Of course not.   Governments in this category can just swing it’s wand the issue will be dead in an instance.  We are a democracy what maybe garbage to you maybe be treasures to others?  Gusto natin ang malaya tayo pero todo kontrolado tayo sa iba na me ibang hilig sa buhay?  I bet you,  if we are under military rule, such display of art others consider blasphenous will never be possible?  People must appreciate the trade-offs or you’ll see your blood pressure shooting like July 4th.

    • http://twitter.com/f_mahusay Francisco L. Mahusay

      All freedoms have limits. The freedom of someone ends where the freedom of another begins. That is a very important principle in a democracy. Our individual rights are bounded by the rights of others.

  • http://twitter.com/PatientZero Wyrmwood

    “Mideo disrespected my god! He should be punished!”

    LOOOOOOOOOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1785095901 Mark Angelo Virly Ching

    All these posts saying “the artwork is not offensive because we don’t really know what Jesus looks like” are moot points. It does not matter. At all.

    Granted, let’s say what you are saying is true. But many still believe in that image, and have close attachments to it. So what if it is not the real thing? Many believe that even though it does not resemble the God behind it, the image is still to be venerated. If for instance you were given an old shawl that your parents say is an old old heirloom from your ancestors, should you feel nothing if somebody stains it by peeing on it? Going by your arguments you should say, “No, I won’t be hurt. It’s not my ancestors but just a piece of cloth.”I know where your arguments are based; perhaps you are also the people saying Christians have no right to celebrate Christmas on December 25 because the date is not accurate. This is a lame argument to make. So what if the date is not accurate? The date does not matter, folks, but the thought, the idea, behind that celebration.

  • antonioluna

    o kita mo na, nagpapalitan lang tayo ng opinyon dito ay may paratang ka na, sige nga alin ba ang mas mabigat na kasalan: ang isang obispo na lumabag mismo sa akung ano ang itinuturo ng simbahan o ang ginawa ni cruz na hindi naman obispo?malay natin kung ang ibig nyang sabihin ay sa art exhibit nya ay ganito-ang simbahan na mukha ni kristo ay nabalahura na ng husto dahil sa basurang pag uugali at mga sexual na iskandalong kinasasangkutan ng mga alagad nito, opinyon lang.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CKV2PFPQ5VEIDN5XZUU2SRJ2IY angel gabriel

    Wow, this is a product of the UST? I thought only godless UP students can do this crazy sh!t….

  • antonioluna

    Tagbilaran bishop Leonardo Medroso said CCP officials and Cruz should be charged if they did not relent.

    “What we’ll do is have a dialogue with the CCP. Talk with CCP. Again,
    if nothing is being done, then we go to a higher office or a higher
    court. We will charge them,” said Medroso. – I wonder what will the charges be? If a man is openly praising satan for that is his god in his religion, is he in violation of any existing laws?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000090902668 Pat Bello

    The reaction of the people which are still tied up to the backward thinking of the church is why the philippines will never prosper and move forward. We will still be stuck in this backward mentallity of hypocritical conservativity. Ninanakaw at pinapahirapan tayo ng mga politiko ay wala kayong ginagawa, pero kung katulad lang sa mga walang kuentang kaganapan na ito ay akala mo ay pinatapatay na kayo kaya kailangan ninyong maghimagsik? tsk tsk tsk. I am sure that at the end of the day, you idiots will be back in your selfish and sinful ways. Dont listen to this priest, that are sinners like you and me. God deserves more than being served thru the doctrines which are made by autoritative sinners in the first place. Freedom of expression deal with it! if not then you dont deserve democracy.

    • antonioluna

      well said bro.

    • shane oy

      maybe we should listen to you? lol is it still within the scope of your freedom to trample my beliefs the way he did? tell me that it is your right to do so and we do not have the right to react to it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1785095901 Mark Angelo Virly Ching

      Tell that to the homosexuals/women-feminists who get hurt when they are slighted too.Or do they get a pass to being offended and calling people bigots, while people who are religious have no right to feel offended?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1785095901 Mark Angelo Virly Ching

      Following your logic, I have the right to hate speech, and the media has the right to defame people. So how do you explain that?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1785095901 Mark Angelo Virly Ching

        For Pat Bello. (PDI’s threading seems to be broken.)

    • Anonymous

      So  thinking pala ng mga katulad mo ang kailangan para umunlad ang Pinas.
      Malaking kasinungalingan yan.

  • Anonymous

    CPcook ang dami mong sinulat pero di mo man lang binaggit yung respect other people’s  beliefs.

  • Anonymous

    Paano kang nakasiguro na nanay mo yan. Hindi ka nakakasiguro.
    Pero naniwala ka na nanay mo yan, iyan ang nakalakihan mo. Yan ang paniniwala mo.
    Pero di ko aalisin sa iyo yang paniniwala mo.
    Ganyan din kami dito na galit sa kabastusan na iyan, yan ang paniniwala namin.

  • http://twitter.com/punctuationmarc Marc Anthony Biay

    I’m a “right-thinking person” and I don’t think that’s offensive. In the first place, how do we know what Jesus or God looks like anyway? Do cameras exist 2000+ years ago? I don’t think so. We venerate the images or God, even though there is the Second of the Ten Commandments. There is something much, much bigger here than just plain discrimination of the Catholic religion. However, given that we are living no longer in a democratic country but rather in a theocratic country, I doubt we’d be able to understand these works.

    • Anonymous

      ikaw na matalino…cge na bat di mo kunin kay Pnoy ang pwesto magaling ka naman mag salita at matalino ka, cge na ikaw na. oo nga pala ano na pala nagawa mo sa pinas? 

  • antonioluna

    If archbishop rosales doesn’t know that his 7 damasos did a blasphemous act then he doesn’t know what a blasphemous artist is also, otherwise i call it hypocrisy.

    • Anonymous

      antonioluna: hindi ibig sabihin na bulok ang tatlo o pitong kamatis sa isang kaing bulok na lahat. Bakit perpekto ka ba? perpekto ba ang pamilya mo? baka naman pde magpalahi sa inyo brod ang galing galing nyo naman pala, walang bahid…pinag uusapan ba natin ang 7 obispo? art exhibit ang pinag uusapan kaya wag mong ilihis ang topic to create another havoc out of irrelevant subject…matuto ka muna mag analyze bago ka mag comment ng kung ano ano. Pag pinag usapan ba natin na magnanakaw ka, ibig sabihin magnanakaw ang buong pamilya nyo? simple lang yon…wag mong lahatin at wag tayong padalos dalos. 

  • Anonymous

    kung hindi mo gusto ang art niya wag kang tumingin. nagpapakita lang na ang babaw ng tingin niyo sa sarili ninyong religion, expected din nmn kasi ang obispo nga ang babaw ng tingin nya sa kanyang dios ano pakaya yung nagsamba lng. hindi nmn siguro sa isang imahe o figure kayu nagsam2xba. hindi kayu maoffend kung alam nyo yung dios o pinaniniwalaan niyo, ang gusto ata ninyo e maganda lahat ang marinig niyo tungkol sa inyong dios. e hindi naman yan ang realidad kasi iba’t2x tao ay may ibang2x pananaw lalo na sa religion. Ang problema kasi pagcriticismo na ang maharap nn2 obispo na ito, ay tinatawag nang blasphemous ang sino mang nagcriticize. 

    • Anonymous

      boyzkulot, alam mo yong rason mo na kung ayaw ng art eh wag tumingin eh isang mababaw rin na pag iisip. Hindi ako fanatic na catholic pero maruong ako remespeto…ano ba alam mo sa art? anong credentials meron ka para mag sabi ka ng ganyan lang kadali. Kailangan pa bang ulit ulitin ang explanation na nakaka offend ng paniniwala ng ibang tao? na iba ang art sa blasphemous presentation? Ano ba ang pagka unawa mo sa art? alam mo ba ang culture? di mo nman kailangan mag docotorate para magkaron ng mataas na kaalaman sa freedom of expression, simpleng common sense lang. Nabasa mo ba ang ibig sabihin ng blasphemy? back to basic ka brod tapos basahin mo yan saka ka mag comment dito. Gusto mo pa tirahin ko nanay mo habang pini paint kami sa canvas? tapos sabihin natin ito ang onterpretatation namin ng madonna and child…ok lang ba sayo habang nakatingin ka? ano pang simpleng paliwanag ang gusto mo para maiintindihan mo ang simleng respeto? Gusto mo ba naka display ang picture mo habang may chinuchupa ka sa kalye kung gabi? display natin…ang mahirap din sayo eh makpag comment ka lang kahit hindi mo iniisip kung may naapakan ka…sa uulitin hindi ako fanatic na catholic pero may respeto ako at takot sa Diyos na pinaniniwalaan ko. Kung sa gf ko nga mataas ang respeto ko kahit nga may tumingin sa kanya na ibang ang dating mababastusan na ako, eh kung sipulan pa siya? Ano ba ang ginawa sa image ni Jesus? pumunta ka ba sa CCP para alamin? wag kang manhid brod. at wag kang mag comment ng nonsense. pag isipan mo muna bago ka mag bitiw ng salita…again back to basic ka para alam mo kung nao ang ibig sabihin ng mga pinag sasabi mo. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1785095901 Mark Angelo Virly Ching

      The issue is not whether it was created or not, or whether we should see it or not. The issue’s core is that a government-funded agency displayed the art even though it is against their by-laws. Plus anti-secularism yan, spending government money on atheism. I-display niya sa private studios, wala kaming pakialam.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=579688178 Raven T Guerrero

        hindi relihiyon ang atheism. siguro pwede s’yang  sabihing isang political stance.

      • Anonymous

        Tama ka dyan.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7R357MS63AVIWHJY2EDG22N3QE jason

    ei guys.. YES! cameras dont exist during those times and i approved in what you said.
    but here’s the thought. we all knew what cross looks like right? it is the same cross 2000 years ago and
    the same cross we know today. Lalagyan mo yan ng CONDOM magnda ba yan? do you even know the relevance of the cros in our lives today? It is where Jesus died because of our sins! HE SAVED YOU FOR ONCE!! HE SAVED US! YOU FOOL! kaya kung ako ang panginoon ngayon tapos nababasa ko yang mga comment ninyo na okay lang yong ginawa nila, ang sarap niyo kayang apakin? Im not a catholic ha for your info Im a Born again christian And Im not against what the catholic bshops said.. you know what guys, if you just have a real understanding in your faith and you read the bible, you will be ashame of yourselves

  • http://twitter.com/IamPinayPie PinayPie

    If I had the money I would commission Mideo Cruz to express his freedom of expression, and artistry, creativity on the subject of Muhammad.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/74HRPY4HLASSYQNNLTPLUYVPWM Jojo

    :) moderation lang is the key… respect and tolerance lang :)

    alam naman natin na key figure yan sa faith ng ibang tao, respect lang natin… porket sa freedom of expression gagawa tayo ng mag-rereact ang other concern or simulan ng conflict?  

    Sa mga nabasa kong reaction, mi example na ang pixs or sabihin natin imgae ng magulang natin na nilagyan ng ganyang palamuti, matutuwa ka ba kong pamilya mo yun? Respeto lang tayo… Eh kong sa China ka nito, ginanyan mo yan ang kanilang leader dun, for sure tigok ka!

    freedom comes with respondsibility…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=601331592 Louie Bonifacio

    I thought Christianity is a religion that promotes peace and loving your neighbour even if he/she is your enemy. I am surprised to see a lot of nasty and hateful comments from the so-called Christians. If Christ was alive today, I don’t think He will say those nasty things to Mideo Cruz. Instead He will talk to him and try to understand why he did that. It’s time for Christians to act like Christians

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1785095901 Mark Angelo Virly Ching

      I agree with you. But of course, there are many non-Christians (like Mideo) who do what they do to bring out the worst in Christians by provoking them. Tolerance lang yan. Leave us be, para walang ganito.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=601331592 Louie Bonifacio

        Take the high road then. Don’t stoop to his level and refrain from making nasty statements and threats

    • Anonymous

        @Louie Bonifacio – kaya nga nag-iisa lang si Jesus Christ kasi if we all can do everything he can including showing the same level of compassion that you said HE will give to Mideo Cruz, then wala nang pinagkaiba si Jesus Christ sa atin.  Yes, we should live a Christ like life but no one can surpass or even be at par with HIM.  HE is the only GOD, what we can do is just to follow him but we can never do what Christ can do.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=601331592 Louie Bonifacio

        Yes we can’t surpass Him but it is not an excuse to say nasty things to Mideo Cruz. People should refrain from saying hate messages towards him. It as easy as not typing something on the keyboard.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/74HRPY4HLASSYQNNLTPLUYVPWM Jojo

    oo nga pala noh, bakit si Adress Boni, Gen. Emilio, Jose Rizal and other pinoy heroes di kasama sa art? :) dapat fair… para ma full ang FREEDOM of EXPRESSION

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Badong-Santos/100002639723695 Badong Santos

    parang may naaamoy ako!!!!

  • Anonymous

    puro kayo dak-dak..mag-trabaho kayo or mag luto o mag-aral..gumawa kayo ng bagay na kapaki-pakinabang naman…ako tapos na kaya ako dadak-dak na…buti wala si Cezar walang tatapal….ahihihi

  • Anonymous

    pero sa kabilang banda…yung ginawa niya ay isang napakalaking kalapastanganan…hindi ako artist..at walang balak maging isang artist…pero pare naman…JESUS na pinag-uusapan dito……pag nakita kita…kakapunin talaga kita…artin mo mukha mo..

  • Anonymous

    i know catholics cannot accept this kind of art…i am a catholic whose uncle was a priest, but this man, cruz, is also covered by our freedom of expression even if he is an atheist…atheists do not believe on the bible’s creation of mankind through adam and eve,  ..i remember when pope john paul II (now blessed) was almost killed by an assassin’s bullet..did he condemn him?.. no he even visited him in his cell, prayed with him, and most of all, he forgave him…i abhor cruz on what he did to christianity, but i also respect his perspective…  
    “Those who are like that, I don’t know what he learned from his parents, from his school, from his friends. It’s a complete betrayal of what is right and the knowledge of what is wrong,” Rosales said.  so, the magnificent bishops that got SUVs, AND THOSE THAT ACCEPTED CASH FROM PAGCOR,  ARE THEY EXCLUDED FROM YOUR COMMENTS??  be very careful on what you say as it may haunt you…to take CCP to court won’t do you any good…remember, our law clearly states a separation of state and religion..RELIGION (CATHOLICISM) IS THE REASON YOU’RE TAKING CCP TO COURT… 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RMTMBF5HIFINIAHPGQRN4KPYIE nes

      This is the first time that I would side with the priests against Mideo Cruz’s art exhibit. If you think that the art of Mr. Cruz is part of his/her freedom of expression, sige nga gawin nyo nga kay Prophet Muhammad yang ginawa nyo kay Hesus. 4kingdaddy, ang layo ng depensa mo kay Mideo!

    • Anonymous

      4king daddy ang issue na pinag uusapan is yong art exhibit sa CCP, ibang issue rin ang SUV sa mga bishop…pag ang subject mo ba math narinig mo ba ang professor mo na ang kanyang binibigay na topic at halimbawa sa black board ay filipino grammar? parehong subject ito na kailangan mo ipasa sa school pero kada subject may kanya kanyang time at professor. gets mo?At simpleng paliwanag lang po, oo tama ka may separation of church and state, agrabyado ang church kasi nababastos ang simbolo ng mga bine venerate ng katoliko, ano gusto mo? dalhin kay Pope ang kaso? siyempre may batas tayo, alangan naman i excommunicate ng mga pari si cruz, kung atheist nga siya, bale wala sa kanya yon, tandaan mo na ignorance of the law excuses no one. Kung may karapatan si cruz to express his art, may karapatan din kaming mga katoliko na mag react sa pag express nya ng art na naka offend sa simbolo ng aming paniniwala. wag kang masyadong magtalino talinohan…mutual respect lang. Ilang beses ba kailangan ulit ulitin sayo na naka offend ang ginawa nya sa mga katoliko!!! wala akong pakialam kung atheist ka or ano man ang pinaniniwalaan mo ang sa amin ay bastos ang ginagawa nya, simple lang yon at hindi na kailangan ng malalim na pag papaliwanag! gets mo? baka kailangan mo ng common sense para gumana yang malabnaw mong utak para maunuwaan mo ang sinasabi ko. 

    • Anonymous

      The issue is DISRESPECT to God, the Creator of All Things. This is the worst thing that man can do because he is not attacking the creation but the CREATOR.  What kind of a person can do that?  That is not artistry but EVIL thinking.

      • Anonymous

        you must be a nun like my teachers when i was in elementary and high school..we learn spanish and religion which were prerequisites that if you don’t pass these subjects, you fail…. but when our subject was history, they teach us about the EVOLUTION OF MAN….so, don’t be such a hypocrite!!!

      • Anonymous

        FYI. The church does not denounce the evolution of man. Again you are out of the topic.

  • Anonymous

    sorry nes…what you’re asking from me is impossible..i’m not an artist, so there you go…i am not defending cruz, per se…let me say it again, for your benefit..I ABHOR CRUZ ON WHAT HE DID TO CHRISTIANITY, BUT I ALSO RESPECT HIS PERSPECTIVE…since his art is against the catholic faith (which is my faith too), many catholics were insulted including the”papogi” senators..but you neglected to reply on what i quoted cardinal rosales’…. so, the magnificent bishops that got SUVs, AND THOSE THAT ACCEPTED CASH FROM PAGCOR,  ARE THEY EXCLUDED FROM YOUR COMMENTS?? 

    • Anonymous

      Those are solved issues. Why do you bring them out? I agree with you I may respect Mideo Cruz if he expressed himself in virtue of decency and respect but what he did is crossing the line and you on the other hand is using the past issues to implicate others. You are giving in to your biases. Please be aware of that. You may have a point but this is not the rightful place for that because it does not hit the issue at hand. There might be a separate page for that. 

      Wont you agree with me?

  • Anonymous

    HERE’S THE QUOTE FROM CARDINAL ROSALES “Those who are like that, I don’t know what he learned from his parents, from his school, from his friends. It’s a complete betrayal of what is right and the knowledge of what is wrong,” Rosales said. 
    your analogy is a little off, but let’s leave it at that…so the bishops are not included on cardinal rosales’ condemnation of Cruz? SO THE COMPLETE BETRAYAL OF WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONGS FALLS ONLY WITH CRUZ?  NAMIMILI LANG?… READ AGAIN…I ABHOR WHATCRUZ DID TO CHRISTIANITY, BUT I ALSO RERSPECT HIS PERSPECTIVE…THAT’S WHY WE ARE GOING NOWHERE BECAUSE WE ARE SO FANATICAL WHEN IT COMES TO SOMETHING, IN THIS CASE, OUR FAITH…NOT ONLY ARE YOU NARROW MINDED,BUT SHORT MINDED TOO.,,BASAHIN MO KUNG ANO ANG LAMAN NG MGA BALITA, SA PRINT O TV,..PINATAY ANG KAIBIGAN DAHIL NAPIKON…SEE???..YOU HAVE TO FACE REALITY…GETS MO, BISHOP FBPKSA??????????? 

    • Anonymous

      You are stupid.  Respecting God is NOT fanatical.

      • Guest

        well, i may be stupid, but you are a moron….you probably didn’t go to school, so you know nothing about science….and i never said fanatic…you’re putting words in my mouth… 

      • Anonymous

        okay…don’t be selective..i also want you to tell me what you think of cardinal rosales’ comments: here, READ IT!!!  “It’s a complete betrayal of what is right and the knowledge of what is wrong,” Rosales said.  SO, HIS BISHOPS WHO WERE IMPLICATED ABOUT A MONTH AGO ON SOME “MONKEY BUSINESS” ARE EXEMPTED?  THEY DID NOT BETRAY ON WHAT WERE RIGHT AND NO KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WERE WRONG??????….THE GALLLLLLLLL……..

      • Anonymous

        I am sorry but it seems that your comment does not belong here. You are out of the topic.

  • http://twitter.com/ReyrexA reyrex arcilla

    Si Director Millado ng CCP dapat mag resing ka dyan sa positon mo,tama si sneator Enrile mag resign kayo,hindi nyo nakita na ang tono ng exibit ay blasphemous.OUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT MILLADO

  • http://twitter.com/ReyrexA reyrex arcilla

    Ano klase utak meron ka MIllado para sabihin mo na hindi para gawin katatawanan ang exibit ni medio cruz?

  • Chua Bee

    Some posts here are coming from too narrrow of a mind. The issue here is the desecration of Christs and not the so called SUVs corruption etc (which by the way, the cars will depreciate in value over time, in 20 years the worth nothing–so gets ninyo?) That means the damage is not long term. But desecrating Christ does not only create short but also long term consequences. Young people will not think that it is okay to do that in the name of Art? What a jerk.

  • Anonymous

         I think there is such thing as move for non-violence. We must avoid hate comments toward this artist. We can criticize him but not to the point of having comments of hate and violence. At the end we who depend our faith, promotes decency, respect and all would have to eat our words because we have become bigots who in turn do not respect other beliefs and principle. 
         However, I say to  the artists who would in one way or the other follow Mideo Cruz’ example that freedom of any form with respect to its gravity demands as well the same gravity of responsibility. They are very much interrelated. That is balance. If you shout louder for freedom you must be prepared for its forthcoming responsibility. 
         Now, when you demanded that what the artist did was right did you really gave second thought to what you were saying? How come we ended up having these arguments here and as you noticed people who turned to hate comments? 

         The freedom of expression that you might be longing has gone astray. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5CUXT5SSBD2YTJLTGHHCHOMQMY Alfonso V

    hindi porke maraming gnwang mali anga bishops expempted na ang mga ibang tao sa pggwa ngmga offensive na bagay na 2lad n2. ano 2 prang bata na dahil my gnwa ang iba na pgkakamali pwd ka na rng gumwa nun? grow up nmn puro kc hanapan ng pgkkmali ang tintngnan nyo.simple lng nmn ang issue d2 ung gnwa ng artist hnd kung anu2x sinusumbat nyo pra maexempt kau sa pgkakamali ng gnwa ng iba.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RJCHUTIWOUCA6624R75ORYVWLU Just Me

    geez… i dont understand what the fuzz is all about… do they really know the history of the face they call Jesus… can the catholic church guarantee that it is how Christ looked while he was walking the earth… pardon me if im wrong but if i recall the current image of Christ was based the painting made by leonardo da vinci who used live models during his time as basis for how Jesus and his apostoles would look like… so basically the face they call jesus was simply da vinci’s interprepation of the face of a male model who lived during his time and not the face of the true Christ who lived long before that… now who’s commiting blasphemy by  labeling a man’s face as Christ… just my two cents on the matter



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