Aquino wants lawmen to be looked up to, not down

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Joining the police force may be as tough as finding the right height, especially if you don’t measure up.

Congress should not make it easy for you, or law enforcement could come up short of public expectations.

So President Aquino vetoed a bill that would repeal the height requirement for admission into the Philippine National Police, Bureau of Fire Protection (BFP) and Bureau of Jail Management and Penology (BJMP), Malacañang said Monday.

Aquino decided the bill was unnecessary because there was an existing waiver of the height requirement in the public protection service.

Requirement stands

 

With the veto, the height requirement for admission into the three agencies under the Department of the Interior and Local Government (DILG)—1.62 meters (5’4”) for men and 1.56 m (5’2”) for women—stands.

In vetoing the bill, Aquino said applicants to the PNP, BFP, and BJMP had to comply with certain general qualifications, under existing laws, such as the PNP Reform and Reorganization Act of 1990, BFP and BJMP Professionalization Act of 2004, and the DILG Act of 1990.

“Whereas height is among these qualifications, a waiver of this qualification is allowed under certain conditions. Hence the total repeal of the height requirement among these service bureaus is unnecessary,” Aquino said in his veto message.

Height equality

The consolidated bill, Senate Bill No. 3217 and House Bill No. 6203, titled “An Act Repealing the Minimum Height Requirement for Applicants to the Philippine National Police, Bureau of Fire Protection and Bureau of Jail Management and Penology,” would have dealt with height equality among the three agencies.

While he recognized the bill’s “noble intent,” Aquino said he was “seriously apprehensive about the concerns’’ raised by the PNP and the BJMP on the safety of their personnel and of the public.

“As raised by the BJMP, jail officers, by the nature of their work in guarding detainees or escorting criminals, must possess the necessary physical attributes to perform their functions effectively,” he said.

Too, public safety “is paramount in law enforcement by the PNP, as well as firefighting by the BFP,” he added.

This was the second bill vetoed by the President in a week after the Magna Carta of the Poor, whose P3-trillion budget far exceeds the P2.006-trillion 2013 national budget.

The President said the government could not implement the magna carta because of its big budget.

Not discrimination

Deputy presidential spokesperson Abigail Valte said the height requirement did not discriminate against Filipinos, pointing out that the law requires applicants to possess certain physical attributes necessary for them to do their job.

“That’s not discrimination. That is demanded by the nature of their job,” she said.

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  • Stuubs

    This mongoloid president should know that even if our lawmen were as tall as 7′ footers but if they are corrupt, nobody would looked them up but just down… Its the integrity and honesty of a person that measures up but not how tall you stand !

    • nakawan

      Haha! Ya, I thought he meant they should be admired as honest public servants, not merely looked up to coz of height.

      • LAD

        ate type mo din matataas diba? lukah

      • nakawan

        bakit? type mo maiigsi?

      • LAD

        haaaaay ate sabi ko na nga ba

    • LAD

      hooooh ingit ka lang bruha ka, kung di ko pa alam madami ka type na pulis lukah

  • farmerpo

    Dapat po, sa tingin pa lang, kagalang galang na ang image na projected ng law enforcing officer. Di malaki tyan, malinis, alang sigarilyo sa bibig, hindi nakapamaywang pag kaharap ang tao. Magalang magsalita at hindi bastos.

    Pangarap lang po.

    • batangsulpok

      Paano hindi maglalakihan ang tiyan nila ay ganoon din ang mga amo, tingnan mo yun mga Heneral, parang mga suman ang mga katawan na halos matanggal ang butones sa katabaan pati mga utali ay pareho kasi ang motto nila ay FOLLOW THE LEADER.

  • Loggnat

    Height should not be a requirement to join any of those organization and saying that it is not discrimination is wrong. Requirements should be on the ability to do the job ie. strength, attitude, integrity, etc. By setting a height limit, those individuals who are below the limit is not even given the opportunity to be evaluated if they can or cannot do the job. A 5 foot muscular male can be stronger and able to do tasks that a 5 ft. 4 in. skinny female cannot perform. The shorter individual will not even be given the chance or consideration because his application will be automatically rejected for being below the height limit but the taller individual will have that opportunity. If that is not discrimination, Abigail is a guys name. :))

    • Simplify1

      you simply don’t know the meaning of “discrimination” siguro…you call discrimination yung height requirement, pero yung sample mo na isang babae hindi ba sex discrimination And what do you mean about “Abigail”is a guys name? pati ba sexual orientation ng tao may discrimination ka din? Baka may lagnat ka lang….inumin mo na muna gamot mo…

      • Loggnat

        Where in my post that discriminate against a female? You need to reread it and see if you can comprehend the post. Maybe if I rewrite it and make the change of a muscular and strong female who is 5′ 0″ who can and is able to do the job that a skinny 5′ 4″ male is not able and do not have the capability to do. The female’s application will certainly go straight to the failed requirement file but the male individual’s application do have a chance to pass the first screening. Do you understand now why a height requirement is discriminatory? Capable individuals will be shut out of the position/job because of their height. Too bad there is no medicine to cure what you got, only a lot of schooling and experience, maybe? Abigail is definitely a girls name and it is like saying that if height requirement is not discrimination, the Pope is a protestant which he is definitely not. :))

      • Simplify1

        On the contrary, it is your old schooling and inexperience that are centrally the problem here. Your second example will fare better as a comparison although the best comparison would have been limited within the same sex, i.e. a 5 foot male vs a 5’4′ male…. this would have been less controversial… We now live in a modern, gender sensitive yet progressive society Try to be a little bit politically correct.

        PS

        My comments were relative to the manner of your statements being politically correct. My general take on the issue of height restriction is not so much on the aspect of discrimination, but on the aspect of ITS STUPIDITY!! Physical requirements should always be based on selecting the MOST COMPETITIVE applicant for the position.

      • Loggnat

        You live in a gender sensitive and progressive society…. :)) Comparing male and female is controversial because..? I compare them because I do not see any difference between them as long as they can do the job. I’m all for the female to be able to apply for any job regardless if it is predominantly male. I’m even agreeable for female soldiers to be in the front line in a war beside their male counterpart. I’ve trained and sent female soldiers to grueling operational readiness exercises in training for a real battlefield situation. True equality is when everybody sees an individual and be evaluated according to the individual’s capability regardless of gender. Total acceptance is when you trusted that individual male or female to cover your 6’es plus jokes about male chauvinism and female frailties are shared, enjoyed without feeling offended or offending each other. Political correctness is for those who have never manned a defensive firing position with the opposite gender and totally trusting that fellow soldier. Acceptance is when that trust is reciprocated with no reservation at all that the other soldier is a female. While you’re still working on your modern, gender sensitive, and progressive mindset, I and others in the military are passed that phase and nearing to a real and true gender equality. :))

    • elimsqui

      kung ht. mo below 5’4″ di wag na kayo mag apply… simple lang. hindi naman discrimination yun…

      • Loggnat

        Here is my definition of discrimination: the act, practice, or an instance of discriminating categorically rather than individually. What is yours? Here is my explanation why I consider height requirements as discrimination. First, it singles out a category of people for exclusion to serve or be a part of organizations because they are categorized as too short or below the height requirement. Second, the height requirement prevents an individual to be evaluated in order to find out if he/she is capable of doing the job or not. Third, it infringes in the right of an individual to be able to chose to serve the people by serving as a law enforcement officer or a fireman specially if he/she has the capability, dedication, integrity, and passion for the job. And telling somebody who believes that he/she should not even put in the application even if he is capable of doing the job is basically unjust and wrong. Now explain and justify your assertion that height requirement is not discrimination.

      • CommonSens6

        I agree there should be no height restrictions but would add that there be weight and waist standards and this should be strictly enforced for them to continue to serve. This may be a contentious issue but if you want a force with a wholesome and respectable image we should start by being physically fit.

  • Guest

    kalbo wala sa tangkad ang pagiging mabuting pulis..

  • http://www.facebook.com/noelsantos37 Noel Santos

    ou nga!.sagwa siguro pag yung pulis eh kasing taas ni ryzza mae dizon..bwa-ha-ha!

    • Loggnat

      If he/she is well trained and packing heat, will you laugh at him/her? Also he/she will be at better striking range to your highly vulnerable ‘cojones’. :))

  • Vic Usi

    Lawmen deserve our respect as they are authorities but for them to be admired or to be liked is something that they should earn by themselves.

  • regd

    Ibig sabihin mga pandak tayo, mga lispu lang ang hinde.

  • mike8232

    Who sponsored this idiotic bill ?? The inquirer should at least mention this! pathetic

    • Jonas Cabiles Soltes

      It’s a consolidated bill na po, it means it was voted yes by almost everyone na in the Congress

  • Karabkatab

    “Aquino wants lawmen to be looked up to, not down”

    The truth is…. In times of need, the public have a hard time LOOKING FOR Lawmen.

    • Loggnat

      Yeah…. that is the truth and the truth hurts. Also that heading or headline is probably just the writer’s assumption of what Aquino wants because there was no quote or mention of that line in the article. He must be trying to be funny or cute. News reporters or writers should strictly stick to reporting the news and try to avoid adding their assumptions and opinions, I think. If I want opinions regarding the news article, I’ll read the posts and comments or go to the opinion section of the paper to see if any of the opinion writers discussed it, I guess.

      • CommonSens6

        It’s termed “doble entendre”. You’re right the writer is being cute!

  • randyaltarejos

    Dapat yung mga pikon na pulis ay tanggalin sa serbisyo. Hindi dapat sila nandyan. Ang isang magiting na pulis ay dapat mahaba ang pasensya. What I can say is that policement with this kind of behavior should be booted out from the service. And then recruits must have to undergo thorough psychological screening before they are taken into the service.

  • $14334231

    dream on mr. president, dream on….what happened to your puno?…and now, pinky?!….

  • kevin

    Carlos P. Romulo is a General ,but he is small….

  • Albert Einstien

    of course pnoy like bigger police men & security ESCORTS…..he doesnt like SMALL people because he has to look down on them…especially girls like gma……lol

  • smb

    This is totally lunatic view of the president. To veto a law which abolished height requirement is stupidity and discriminatory. Dito sa US kahit ano height mo kung gusto mo pumasok sa US armed services tatanggapin ka.. Get mo yon gonggong na presidente.

  • Pio Gante

    ke maliit ka man o matangkad, ang mga tinitingala at ginagalang ay ang mga karapat-dapat lamang.

  • Meow Ming

    All shall be qualified unless they pass the physical test. Now, they can create a physical test wherein a below average applicant would fail, like touching the basketball ring for men.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jocken-Dano/100002588330624 Jocken Dano

    dapat lang po. the job of being a policeman is to take care of the safety of people around them and this requires physical strength and power. maybe sa sundalo ok lang yong maliit dahil they have to engage in battle not police duties.

  • disqusted0fu

    No matter how tall are the lawmen that you put in service, many of them will still be looked down on because of the work or lack thereof that they show. Pnoy is so drawn to presentation because that’s where he and his administration are only good for. But presentation is not even half of the battle, it is delivering what is expected from you that really matters, which is what Pnoy clearly doesn’t have.

  • muddygoose

    Matangkad nga, malaki naman ang tyan. If they pass the physical, let them be cops. The best cops don’t need to run around and manhandle criminals, they need to think. Ang importante may utak at may prinsipyo.

  • tilamsik

    lalo silang magiging mga mukang nakakatakot…. naku lalakas lang mangotong mga yan….

  • tilamsik

    you want to have better policemen?……… KILL THEM ALL …… and train new ones

  • muddygoose

    Nag-aaply bang bilang pulis si Arroyo?

  • padrefaura

    tindi talaga ng galit ni Pnoy sa mga pandak!

  • Jane Tan

    Or he can just require a more rigorous training regime… in all honesty, height is the least of our worries when it comes to our police officers lol…

  • boybakal

    Aquino wants lawmen to be looked up to, not down

    This is the reason why he vetoed the no height requirement.

  • boybakal

    It is all because of GMA.
    As we all know, Pnoy is sukdulan ang galit kay GMA which we know is 4’10”.
    Whenever Pnoy sees pandak, kumukulo ang dugo.
    Naalaala niya si GMA.
    Pasensiya muna ang mga pandak….your time will come.
    It is not year of the pandaks.

  • Mux

    Tall or short, fat or thin. ALL Police are corrupt! ALL! ALL! ALL!

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