‘Francis criticized Church at conclave’

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Pope Francis. AP FILE PHOTO

HAVANA—Pope Francis issued a strong critique of the Church before the College of Cardinals just hours before it selected him as the new Pontiff, according to comments published on Tuesday by a Roman Catholic magazine in Cuba.

According to Havana Cardinal Jaime Ortega, then-Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio urged the Vatican to eschew self-absorption and refocus its energies outward.

“The Church is called on to emerge from itself and move toward the peripheries, not only geographic but also existential (ones): Those of sin, suffering, injustice, ignorance and religious abstention, thought and all misery,” Bergoglio said.

Ortega said Bergoglio’s comments were made to cardinals as they gathered to select Benedict XVI’s replacement, and reflect his vision of the contemporary Catholic Church. He said Bergoglio later gave him a handwritten version and permission to divulge its contents.

‘Masterful, insightful’

“Cardinal Bergoglio made a speech that I thought was masterful, insightful, engaging and true,” Ortega said.

Ortega added that the remarks offered insight about the direction in which the new Pope could take the Church following his March 13 election.

In his statements, the future Pontiff also warned of the dangers of stagnation.

“When the Church does not emerge from itself to evangelize, it becomes self-referential and therefore becomes sick. … The evils that, over time, occur in ecclesiastical institutions have their root in self-referentiality, a kind of theological narcissism.” Bergoglio said.

He also criticized “a mundane Church that lives within itself, of itself and for itself.”

Finally Bergoglio said that whoever became the new Pope should be “a man who … helps the Church to emerge from itself toward the existential outskirts.”

Ortega first revealed Bergoglio’s comments in a weekend Mass, and they were published on Tuesday on the website of Palabra Nueva magazine, along with a photo of the two men embracing after Bergoglio had donned the papal white robes and rechristened himself Francis.

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  • OleSapra aka ARGUS

    REFOCUS ITS ENERGIES OUTWARD

    ANA: “Sa panahon ng kuaresma, sana’y mapagtuonan ng pansin ng mga paring Katoliko ng Phl, partikular ang mga obispo, ang direksiyon ng bagong papa na nais tatahakin ng Simbahan worldwide.”

    LISA: “Binatikos ni Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio ang buong Catholic Church bago siya nailuklok na papa – (The Church is called on to emerge from itself and move toward the peripheries, not only geographic but also existential ones: Those of sin, suffering, injustice, ignorance and religious abstention, thought and all miseries).”

    CION: “Merong kasabihan sa Pilipino – Ang sakit ng kalingkingan eh sakit din ng buong katawan. – ‘Yung mga obispong kabilang sa Team Tatay na itinuturing mga kalingkingan ng Simbahan eh, sana’y tablan ng kahihiyan at kusang magreporma. Hindi lang mga Katoliko at media ang nakatunghay sa kanila kundi mismong si Pope Francis.”

  • UrHONOR

    O, yong mga nagmamarunong dyang mga kaTOLik kuno, BIRAHIN ninyo si Francis for critiquing the church gamit ang mga numero ninyong de kahon! SIGE, ilampaso ninyo yang pope ngayon na mukang mas magaling pa sa inyo tunkol sa RCCh at hagisan ninyo ng parang granada ng mga numero ninyong kapitolyo at bersikulo! Tingnan nating kung gaano kayo kagaling ngayon sa pagtatanggol ng kaTOLik ninyo.

    • wawa2172

      I guess you are not a catholic the reason that you are mean to its members. Hindi nag mamalaki ang mga katoliko na its a perfect religious group and maganda ay ang pag lalabas nang mag katotohan sa loob nang mga nag yayari sa simbahan at its the pope leading the reforms. Kung may nag kakamali ito ay inaayos and we know that all will not be pleased. What is good with the catholic religion is that it is no longer over protective, the mistakes of the priest are now made public and corrected. This is not done sa ibang relihiyon and what is good with Catholicism in the country is that hindi ito nangungutya nang ibang relihiyon. Relationship with god is not about religion but personal. As some people has been saying, mag papakamatay sila sa kanilang relihiyon but sa ganang akin, I could face death kung tatangalin nila sa akin ang belief ko sa diyos.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        mean to its members ive been bullied insulted called names had my wife father insulted and when a person fights back they call foul. ive even been called a f–king heretic by those so called good catholics ive been sent to hell so many times i feel like im on a roller coaster by the fanatics and for your information the church is still protecting child rapers. when they do get caught they hire the best lawyers for them why they say its because we have to show forgiveness towards them. none for the child..

      • UrHONOR

        I guess you are a kaTOLik, judging from the way you judge others whom you have no idea whatsoever of who they are. Basta’t mapalutang mo lang na kaTOLik ka, kahit na ano pinalulutang mo. BUNUIN mo ang paksa hindi yong pumupuna sa paksa. sabagay ganyan ang tipikal na kaTOLik, mabilis at madulas ang dila sa paghamak ng kanilang kapwa sa dahilang sa utak lamang nila lumulutang. Very, very Christ-like.!!! Pshaw!

        Wala akong paki-alam sa gusto mong paniwalaan at lalong wala akong pakialam sa bagay na gustong pagkamatayan. Hindi yan ang paksa. UTAk ang ginagamit sa pakikipag-usap, hindi ang PUSONg MAMON!

      • wawa2172

        Yes I am a catholic and a christian. I am using my brain when I am commenting on issues. Nonetheless, I guess you are a racist who hate the pope and his religion. Anyway, I am honored to belong in Catholic religion but I don’t call other religion by names kundi yung matinong tawag sa kanila. I call baptist a baptist, a born again as born again, muslim as muslims, protestants as protestants, etc. I do not dishonor their names and belief. That’s the way you honor and judge other religion brother.

      • UrHONOR

        kaTOLik ka nga….mabilis sa panghuhusga….RACIST, ha. HINDi ako RECIST…hindi ako mahilig sa karera. What you are and what you do is of no value to me. What you just wrote and the one earlier confirms the kind of person you are….wala kayong kwentang lahat, ako ang magaling!

        Kiung gusto mong sumali sa usapan dito, yong paksa ang kanain mo at hindi yong pagpapahayag ng iba na dapat mong pinagpipitaganan at hindi ina-aglahi. Tagalogin mo na lang dahil ang Inglis mo ay nakaka-ilang.

        No use throwing pearls to swine. End of the line.

      • Danny Bravo

        roman catholics is not a christian,,, this is roman using the name of jesus and this is not accepted

      • UrHONOR

        NAKAKAHIYA kang catholic….at hindi ka cathlolic….IKAW ay isang kaTOLik….sa kaisipan at gawa. Sabi sa iyong hindi ako racist….hindi ako karerista…….at tingnan mo yang TNL na pag-uugali’t kaispan mo at pinag-aaway mo pa kami ni Francis. HATE? Sa kaisipan mong malibag at salaula lamang. Pati ba naman ang pagdaramdam at kaisipan ng iba ay ibig mo pang saklawin masabi lamang na ikaw ay hijo bonito ng isang Damaso? Ha ha ha…hindi mo nga binabastos yong mga samahan…..yong tao lamang ang BINABASTOS mo! Hindi ko sinasabing BADING ka dahil hindi ko ginagawa ang pagbabansag sa aking kapwa, pero ang tono at himig ng iyong pangungusap at ganun-na-ganun ang dating.

        Sa susunod, Msgr of the Morning Glory, itago mo na lang yang hilig mo sa pag proselytize at pag-sermon dahil walang kalatoy-latoy ang pagka-kaTOLik mo. Sa basic catechism lamang, hindi kita ipapasa kahit na lumuha ka pa ng dugo’t rosaryo.

      • Danny Bravo

        huli na !!!!!!!!! masasara na !

    • Lolo_Basyong

      Takot na takot ang mga Born Again. Hehehehehehe….

    • Filpino

      bakit naman namin gagawin yun eh tama naman mga puna nya. kaming mga katoliko ay di kasing kitid ang utak na katulad ng samahan nyo.

      • UrHONOR

        NAMIN? Sinong nina-namin mo? Nagpupumilit na kaToLik sa pangalan? Ha ha ha…KITID ng utak, ha? ANO sa palagay mo ang kagagawa mo lamang na pangbabansag sa kapwa mo…..beri kaTOLik? Kung anupaman ang samahan ko, higit na mas mabuti sa sinasamahan mo!

  • Populovich

    In all his statements, reference to Jesus Christ is always absent. He is always lifting up the “church” but not the head who is Christ. The more the Catholics will become like the ancient Jews who lifted up the calf at Mount Sinai the more they will received God’s wrath.

    • Raniv Dawey Rojo

      It just goes to show you haven’t really read any of his statements beyond those quoted in the news.

    • SMEjhong

      another ignorant!.. (sad face)

    • Danny Bravo

      roman catholics or roman is a killer of jesus,,, kaya ang tawag ng first son of god,, is e-13-2013 ,,or evil ,,,13 is a numerical code of alien M

  • http://twitter.com/gfarishta gibreel farishta

    pope francis looks like jonathan pryce, the actor..

  • Lauro

    The church doesn’t need a Pope to see what is wrong with it …. just looking at the perverted society … they should be able to safely conclude that what they are doing in not working at all … yes…… NOT WORKING AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    PRAYING IS NOTHING … REBELLING AGAINST THE GOVT WILL ONLY BRING THE CHURCH DOWN …. WHERE DO YOU START TO (UN)TA(N)GLE THE KNOT??? FIGHT THE RH BILL?????????????????? PRAISING THE LORD BY SINGING THE PSALM MIGHT INCREASE ELECTRICITY BETWEEN THE CHURCH GOERS …. AND FOR SURE IT WII INCREASE (E)PIRA COLLECTIONS …. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/jtpenton Musta Na Mo

      do what you believe is right for you and just keep it to yourself, but never tell to the Catholic Church your unsolicited advice because you are not of help you are not a member though…the church adheres the teachings of Christ to protect life…is it in your church teachings to kill the innocent…you must have been dead now…

      • Lauro

        What is written is my opinion … your reply to my opinion is your opinion. What makes you think that I should keep my opinion to myself and you can say yours????? BTW … using a rubber to prevent pregnancy is something I don’t consider a crime… what is crime to me is to bring life into this world and not able to provide to support that life!!!!! GOD GIFTED US WITH BRAINS >>> I WILL USE MINE AS I DEEM RIGHT >>> JUST AS WELL AS YOU WOULD YOURS!!!! Tell me, will God not cry to see all the suffering street children???
        How about you … every time those children knock on your car window … begging … could you smile and say … how lucky they are that they are alive????? Pls be honest!!!!!!!!!!

      • Danny Bravo

        ang parusa sa hindi allied ni hesus o maling daan ay ginugutom,, pinagkakasakit,, upang magising,,, ang tulong na suhol ay hindi tanggap ng ama ,, turo ang hinihingi at ama ang tutulong,,,, dito nahulog si noynoy aquino sa mga muslim,,suhol

  • Danny Bravo

    the vatican is an evil,,3-13-2013 is a code of satan..M mas malubha ito kaysa muslim dahil dinadaya ang tao by the name of jesus,,,,, and this is not belong to christianity,,,,,marianity,,,,, kung tama itong papa bakit ang susi ng kingdom of heaven ay nasa kristiyano,,,ang immortality,, wala sa roman catholics or church means of hindi sila pinagtiwalaan,,,dahil madaya !!

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