Magna Carta for the Poor authors lament veto

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Authors of the proposed Magna Carta for the Poor are aghast that President Benigno Aquino III vetoed the measure intended to guarantee that the downtrodden and impoverished would get opportunities to improve their plight, believing there was no reason to deny them any kind of help they could get.

Alagad Rep. Rodante Marcoleta, one of the main proponents of the bill, said he was disheartened by the President’s decision, which came at a time when many candidates were trying to focus on the concerns of the poor.

Marcoleta said Mr. Aquino could just have vetoed certain provisions of the bill instead of rejecting it wholesale, so that Congress would have the chance to improve the measure later.

Other sections could still have provided relief to the poor. With the veto, a new bill would have to be filed and Congress would have to start anew.

Marcoleta noted that the proposed Magna Carta for the Poor had been pending since the 13th Congress and that it took two more Congresses before it was sent to the Chief Executive for signature.

“The Pope in Rome is talking about helping the poor and the weak, and this could have been the instrument and could have provided the mechanism [for it],” he said in a phone interview.

He said he was laying the blame for the veto on Sen. Francis Pangilinan, who chairs the Senate’s committee on social justice.

The House of Representatives, which approved its version of the bill about four months before the Senate did, had adopted the Senate version last December.

With the adoption, there was no need for a bicameral conference committee before the bill could be sent to the President for his signature.

According to Marcoleta, Pangilinan had insisted on his version of the measure, which the party-list lawmaker thought had lacked pertinent details.

He said he would have wanted to push his version of the bill, which would impose administrative penalties on government officials liable for the violation of the bill, but the House had to defer to the Senate’s wishes.

Another coauthor, Gabriela Rep. Luzviminda Ilagan, said Mr. Aquino’s elite background had apparently numbed him to the needs of the destitute.

“I believe a President who comes from an elite landed family would be unable to see the merits of a propoor legislation,” Ilagan said.

She said the veto had deprived the poor of additional opportunities they could have seized to uplift their conditions.

“We have the saying that ‘those who have less in life should have more in law.’ With the veto, the poor will not be able to seek succor even in law,” she said.

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  • Camillo

    PNoy did the right thing. Namumulitika lang itong mga TRAPONG yan.

    It’s easy for them to pay lip service to the poor, hindi kasi sila ang magpapatupad ng batas at mapuputukan kapag hindi ito nagawang mabuti.

    Shame on these solons for trying to hold the Executive hostage!

    • Maldi2

      You haven’t read the bill don’t you? Parts of the bill was to give lands to the poor to live and Panot does not want to share more of his Hacienda Luisita any longer. Panot is a real elitist! WTF!

      • Hornbook

        I’d take it that you also read the provision of the bill where the Gov’t needs to allocate P2.32 Trillion for the “right to shelter” alone. Is that realistic?
        As a taxpayer would you be happy to spend P2 Trillion on housing?
        How about other social services i.e. Health and Education?
        What elitism are you talking about?

      • Maldi2

        You must be dreaming or simply pretending to be knowledgeable of the Bill. The amount 2.32T for the shelter is for the span of years. No legislator or bill proponent wanted such amount to be spent in one year.

      • TheSmilingBandit

        Pardon me, but wasn’t the proposal for the 5 million socialized housing supposed to be for this fiscal year alone? Thus it would mean that the 2.32 trillion pesos is for this year. Assuming that the proposed socialized housing is indeed to begin construction this year.

      • white scorpion

        some people pretend to be intelligent. well in reality BOBO naman.

      • Hornbook

        Quoting from the PDI article:
        “Mr. Aquino cited the housing commitments in the Magna Carta which would require the government to allocate P2.320 trillion to build 5 million social housing units THIS YEAR, an amount that is bigger than the P2.006 trillion budget for 2012.”

        Look who’s pretending to have read and understood the Bill in question?

        Do you think the Prez would have vetoed the bill if the proposed budget of P2T will be over a long period? For how long exactly?

      • Dell B Quiambao

        Let all Filipinos be poor and allow only foreigners to be rich. That way, all Filipinos will be in equal footing. Everybody would just received alms from the government. No need to work, or the government would just assign chores to everyone. Simple life , wouldn’t it be ?

      • Simplify1

        just curious, do you know how the proponents of the bill intend to source this project? The 2012 budget for the entire philippines was about 1.8 Trillion pesos…. how do you expect the country to cough up another 2 Trillion more?

      • white scorpion

        these St_p_d politician is putting the government in a VERY VERY difficult situation, wherein they themselves is not so willing to execute the law.

      • Flugie

        I get your point and respect it. I’d like to ask you this question (out of curiosity). Supposed you have land that your family had owned for years and you, as the new owner, has plans for it. Now, the government comes in and asks you to give up your land to, well, the poor. Here’s the question: would you – with nary a regret for lost (potential) income and/or potentially not having “pamana” to give to your children – agree to give it away open heartedly? Again, just out of curiosity. I personally know people who stood with you on that “giving land away” thing but when they got the letter from the government asking them to give their land away, they suddenly changed their tune.

      • noelpogi

        Hindi na nakasagot si Maldi2.

      • Drillon Recto

        Kaya. Natameme na. Nagmamaangas kasi e.

      • white scorpion

        paano sasagot, eh wala naman siyang lupa!! LOL…

      • white scorpion

        yes you’re right. they are PRO POOR. so long as it’s not at their expense.

      • Rose Teribe

        This cannot solve the problem, mas maging tamad ang mga tao dahil dito. LBC (Lupa’t Bahay Cash) from government? heller!

      • white scorpion

        SOME of the poor are just using being poor as an excuse to violate law, settle into somebody else land. the right to sale in the middle of the road. etc etc ………. and lastly, using their votes to get favor from weakling politician.

      • Ariel Molina

        Tama bakit di sila nagsisikap nag aral kahit welder Lang di sana NASA ibang bansa na sila kahit paano.kasi nga tamad sila. Kaya inabot nila yon. Ang alam Kasi nila mag shabu uminom magnakaw. My ka unting Pera shabu na agad . Kung iniisip nya paano palagu-in yun.

      • indiosbravos2002

        WTF! Hacienda Luisita is an old issue. For distribution na yan ah. Why cant you just move on. You sound like a broken record.

      • GustoKoHappyKa

        wala ng maisip na issue kasi….. kaya ni recycle… while I don’t like pnoy.. I also hate the “poor” who don’t do anything to uplift their own life…
        hintay biyaya..laging naka tunganga…

      • mg_harrier

        kpag ipinanganak ang isang tao na mahirap at namatay na mahirap hindi gobyerno o sosyedad ang may kasalanan..katamaran na ang tawag dun…

      • white scorpion

        you’re right. i have known one person. she is exactly very very poor when she was young. so poor that uulamin pa nila yun mantikang dapat itatapon na. the problem is that she has BRAINS and DETERMINATION (unlike our politician (all) BRAINLESS na, WEAKLING pa). now, she is employed with a salary of USD500 per day base in our very own pinas. siya pa nagpaaral sa younger bro and sis.

      • Winzum Daoas

        he doesn’t own any of the HL land anymore so what benefit is it to him to veto this bill for that. According to reports, the bill required three trillion pesos and the government doesn’t have that much money. Second, the bill had no provision that allowed for the entrenchment of the program which means it is beyon the governments capacity because the law would require that all the housing units be built in 2013 because of a lacking provision of the law.

      • white scorpion

        the problem with the low rank thinker. they always tied anything and everything to HLI when possible. not realising kahit na-veto ang bill, tuloy pa rin ang pamamahagi ng HLI. done na yun issue ng HLI.

      • magiting78

        To give land? for free? will infact its already implemented with CARP. I haven’t read the bill, but if the bill intension is to give support for the poor without any pre-conditions I must dis agree with this bill, they should create jobs out of this budget, the more the job the more taxes the more public service..

      • Legally_brown

        You should be thankful instead that President Noy came to his senses and did not sign the bill. Our President was right when he said that he could have signed the bill if only he wanted to look good in the eyes of the people (“cute” in his own words or “pogi” points as some would put it). The big question mark on that bill is that where are we going to get the budget of a whopping 2 trillion pesos to allocate for the poor? I believe that the amount is even bigger than our national budget for 2013. If I’m that type of Congressman who’s only (selfish) interest is to ensure my own political survival, I would also attempt to craft a law, let’s say, that would give 1 million pesos to every Filipino. With that, I might have grand illusions that the people will adore me for it, but then again, the big question is: does the government have funds to implement it? Our legislators must first think hard before they legislate something which they themselves know is difficult if not impossible to implement.

      • white scorpion

        how dare you tell our legislatorS to first think hard before legislate. we have majo-majority of BRAINLESS POLITICIAN. how can they think. all they know is tik-ti-la-ok….. they talked as if they were messiah of the poor.

      • gikiness

        sige unahin natin lupa mo na idistribute sa mga mahihirap

      • Cano Manuel

        Can I get a link of the magna carta, please.

      • white scorpion

        hindi ka ba nagbabasa ng diaryo? hahati hatiin na yun ipapamigay sa magsasaka. hindi ka na nga nagbabasa, wala ka pang isip. aanhin ko yun lupa kung wala naman akong ipangpuhunan sa pagtatanim. bandang huli, baka maging camella pa yan. ikaw nga, ibabahagi mo ba kahit 1/4 lang ng lupa mo, sabihin na natin, sa mahihirap. ang mga NAG-MEMERON, talagang magagaling, at palaging tama. hindi nag-iisip muna. binubukasan agad ang BUNGANGA.

    • juan_luisjr

      you are right spot on mr. Camillo! The problem with these trapo politicians is that they think the situation of the poor can be solved just by law and coming up with mother hood statements . Our constitutions of 1935, 1971 and 1987 have so many pro poor provisions and we remain a 3rd world country albeit improving slowly. What we need are better executions of good policies already in place and funding and cut corruption. Most of the provisions in the so called magna carta are just plain give aways already as if we are a communist state like north korea and cuba !

      • noelpogi

        Yan ang problema kaya nga tayo poor dahil jan sa mga pro poor provisions na yan. Imbes na ibalik yun mga binayad natin na tax sa pamamagitan ng serbesyong maayos, tayo pa ang naaagrabiado. Hilahod ka na sa katatrabaho, sila naman nakanganga lang at naghihintay na LIBRENG GRASYA! PWE! !!!

      • white scorpion

        does anybody wanted a politician? i am giving them all away.

      • koolkid_inthehouse

        What this country needs are jobs jobs jobs and more jobs. The government should have focus on this alone. We don’t need this racist Magna Carta crap from the rich and corrupt politicians. Leftist should have learned from China and Russia that being a welfare state can’t support the population.

    • Rose Teribe

      Dapat may law pang mayaman naman and middle class hehehe

  • axe musk

    Tong-gress should be realistic enough with their Bill Proposals.. not just for pogi points for their future political ambitions… Take your Bill and do rewrite it in a more realistic one that will be beneficial to the nation….

  • koolkid_inthehouse

    Congress are real donkeys. They have no idea how much is the Phil. budget? The pork barrel should be eliminated and spend on housing and providing livelihood for the poor.

    • NAGMAMARUNONG

      COMMUNIST AUTHORS OF THE BILL. IMAGINE PHIL BUDGET AS A WHOLE THE SAME AS FOR THE POOR? HOW IS THAT? KULANG PA BA REVOUTIONARY TAX?

    • http://www.facebook.com/Weldingmen Junior Welder Ness

      I agree,, pork barrel should not be given to congress, they have legislative function but not administrative.. para ano yun pera na pork barrel?.. corruption lang o sa bulsa oh dika kaya mapunta sa NGO ny ang kamag-anak ng congressman ang may ari.

    • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

      I agree! Dapat kunin sa mga pork barrel ng mga politiko ang pantustos dito.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T7PT2JRMQRM5PTMFETXCUIHN6I Juanito Garcia

      sana inuuna nila ang pag-alis ng pork barrel para hindi na sila donkeys.

      • observer1356

        dati naman silang hindi donkeys talaga eh… baka kaya tinatawag na pork barrel ang funding nila dahil sila ay maitutulad sa mga pigs at hindi donkeys? oops…

  • DarkM

    Yun naman pala e. Matagal na ito sa Congress, bakit nai-submit nyo pa rin nang half-cooked? Kaya nagtatagal sa inyo ang mga bills ay dahil palagi kayong absent (not referring to this particular congressman but the congress as a whole). Diba laging nababalitaan na hindi kayo makabuo ng quorum dahil maraming absent? Mahiya nga kayo sa mga bumoto sa inyo.

    Napakadaling sabihin na gusto niyong tumulong sa mahihirap, pero wala kayong malinaw na steps kung paano yun magagawa o san kukunin ang pondo. Gusto niyo lang masisi ang executive pag pumalpak ang implementation

    • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

      Walang pinag-iba yan sa cybercrime law. Bara barang ginawa na walang tamang pagiisip. Mas mataas pa sa budget ng gobyerno ang isa pa lang elemento ng rights of the poor. Saan nyo kukunin ang perang pantustos dito?

  • jowelski

    This is another form of stupid law like the so called “Lina Law”.

    Free housing for the poor? Ask the clever professional squatters if what’s free housing for them. They would sell it after being awarded to them then move to another “idle” land and claim it.

    • Hornbook

      This bill will also enable people to sue the National Housing Authority should it fail to provide free housing.
      We need better legislators who can craft a better law for the betterment of our nation.
      Vote smarter.

  • elmersvd

    Remove the pork barrel of all Congressmen and Senators then maybe we’ll have the budget to implement this law.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NXV3F6YUQWDOA4HPYOFN5F2N3U Danyel

    masa mataas pa pala ang needed a budget jan kesa whole budget for the fiscal year. Paano nga naman mae enforce yan…..Parang ano yan e, gusto mong ibili ng kotse ang anak mo pero ang budget mo e pang pedicab lang…..The law is not realistic. Ang dapat pagtuunan ng batas ay kung paano makalilikha ng mas maraming trabaho.

    Sabi nga ng intisik, “Wak ka bigay isda sa mahilap, tuluan mo cya mang huli isda”. Dadami lalo ang mga tamad sa batas na iyan.

  • Anton Bautista

    This is one lame-ass bill that seeks to make the poor even more dependent. Where is social justice here that says you get what you deserve,not entitle you to get what you think you deserve. The president was right to veto this bill.

  • Filipinoflash

    Crocodile tears for Rodante Marcoleta for the poor. He just wants pa pogi points for the poor in the coming elections.

  • Janch

    If the lawmakers really want to spend so much for poverty alleviation, they should give up their porkbarrels ang use that. Ang kukupal nila.

    • Jane Tan

      I think Enrile might be able to fund the Magna Carta… considering he just gives millions away as “gifts”.

    • Rose Teribe

      Di lahat ng pork barrel masama, you know that

      • Janch

        Sure but it has become a source of corruption and political patronage for practically all lawmakers in the philippines. Would they be willing to give up their porkbarrel funds?

  • Yoda_C3PO

    Tama lang ang ginawa ni Pnoy… Ayaw ko mag bayad ng buwis tapos makikita ko na umaasa na lang ang mahihirap sa magna carta law na yan…

    Sabi ng Panginoon..turuan mo mangisda ang tao para matuto sya hindi yung bibigyan mo lagi ng isda para mabusog sya..

    Yan ang problema natin eh…lagi na lang mahihirap ang inuuna natin.. papano naman kame na nag babayad ng tamang buwis at nagpapaka hirap sa trabaho..

    para saan? para paka-inin sila na walang ginawa buong araw kundi tumambay at mag-inom..gumawa ng mga bata hanggang di na nila kayang buhayin ang mga anak nila..

    mas gusto ko ung batas na gagawa ng trabaho para sa mahihirap ng sa ganun alam nila kung papano mag banat ng buto at kumain na galing sa pinag hirapan nila hindi galing sa hirap at pawis ng iba…

    • Rand Thor

      Tama ka dyan, andami sa amin dito sa maliit naming probinsya ang tambay ang mga tatay araw-araw umiinom ng tanduay o emperador hindi nagtratrabaho at ang saya-saya nila lagi habang nag iinuman. Tapos ang lagi nilang sinasabi walang kwenta ang gobyerno hindi sila tinutulungan…

    • Jane Tan

      hear hear.

    • Babiker_Ahmed

      Simple lang kasi ang nasa utak ng proponent ng law.. there are more “poor” Filipinos where they can invest their political ambitions.. So make a law that would please the majority.. Isa lang ang na-ovelook ng proponent, di kayang pondohan ng gobyerno ang papogi points niya….

      • noelpogi

        Dapat nga yun hindi nagbabayad ng INCOME TAX, e hindi puedeng BUMOTO!!!!

      • Rose Teribe

        hahaha pati ang mag-rarally dapat ung nagbabayad ng tax :)

      • mg_harrier

        sali mo naman kaming OFWs(“,)!matagal ko n ring sinasabi na mayroon sanang isang mambubutas este mambabatas na magkarron ng political will to sponsor a bill that would require taxpayers and OFWs ONLY cast their votes during elections.

    • GustoKoHappyKa

      kung yung ginawa ba naman nilang batas eh yung gagawing libre ang COLLEGE at pag gawa ng bagong mga unibersidad..sa bawat region ng pilipinas mas maganda pa..at least tung mga pera alam natin na sa magandang bagay mapupunta..hindi yun mga puro “mahihirap” na walang ginagawa sa buhay nila

  • cong_lolong

    To Alagad and Gabriela. Dapat binigyan nyo rin ng platinum credit cards ang mga mahihirap. May bahay nga sila, wala namang kasangkapan at groceries. hindi nyo naisip yun?!! such a stupid bill!

  • amado_guerero

    Great JOB PNOY!!! ang nagrereklamo dyan maging presidente muna kayo power my veto power din kayo sa ngayon SHUT UP!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4Q5EHNRA6LXAHGXPSMAXBGJ4ME isidro

    Galit ba si Sen Francis kay Pope Francis?
    “For the poor shall never cease in the land”
    Tama naman si P-Noy, baka may hidden agenda ang housing czar at gamitin sa iba.
    Katulad din ng EDSA Rehab. P-Noy has sensed something fishy, he disapproved it.
    P-Noy has nose for “news of corruption.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/Weldingmen Junior Welder Ness

    tama lang ginawa ni pinoy.. hanga nga ako.. mga walang kwenltang batas di dapat pinapalusot.. saka na palusotin yan kung mayaman na tayo na bansa.. di ko iboboto ang author nito… di nag isip.

  • deadlyshooter

    The House of Representatives, which approved its version of the bill about four months before the Senate did, had adopted the Senate version last December.

    siyempre aprubahan yan nila, perang malaki ito…kaya ganyan na lang kanilang hinagpis kasi yong pera sana ay grasya na sa bulsa naging bato pa….

  • carlcid

    A bill of this kind is what would prevent the Philippines from joining the ranks of developed nations. No country can legislate itself out of poverty. Were that so, then Communist nations would be among the richest on earth. But evidence shows the contrary. Communism only brings on more poverty. Look at North Korea, Zimbabwe and Cuba. These lawmakers should be banned from becoming elected. They are the most dangerous sort, because they are nothing but demagogues. They promise the moon and the stars to the poor, ignorant masses. They want to create a condition of dependency, wherein the masses reject hard work and initiative in favor of handouts. Pretty much like that odious Conditional Cash Transfer.

  • Spidekick

    A sweeping dole-out for the poor…we might as well be a socialist state.

    I’m not against the poor. In fact I work in an NGO providing microfinance to the poor. And we in the industry generally do not agree to cash dole outs. Rather, we encourage them to save, to invest a small premium on micro-insurance, and of course to plan their businesses while we provide funding.

    Dole-outs don’t work, especially if they know the money comes from government.

    Many international funding agencies have already graduated from giving grants without any equity from beneficiaries. Why? Because it’s a waste of money. Nowadays, grants are provided as long as the beneficiaries agree to give their counterpart.

    The government’s responsibility is to reform the economic system, such that income is equitably distributed, tax loopholes for the rich are fixed, middle class income earners are taxed less to spur consumption and allow them spare money to invest in small scale industries, and to cut government spending.

    And…ABOLISH THE PORK BARREL!

    • HarryK

      Dole-outs never worked. That is why beggars remained beggars in the streets and they should know that begging is not the way out of poverty.

      Reform the onerous labor laws and tax system to spur the economy.

    • janelynmalinao

      Totally with you on this one!

    • Jane Tan

      Notice why the Church continues the practice of dole-outs. I’m also not against the poor. But, I know for a fact, that this practice is very short-sighted and is intended to keep the recipient in a state of complacency and dependence.

      I do community service for an urban poor community that has a program that teaches job skills and entrepreneurship, and I’m pretty proud of the people there and what they have accomplished.

    • John Smith

      Nailed it!

  • HarryK

    Marcoleta, Ilagan and company must be thinking that money grows on trees. A bill that will tax every three Filipinos to pay for housing, food, education, job, healthcare for a poor Filipino is asking too much and stupid..

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    In yesterday’s DZMM interview, Senator Pangilinan disputed the palace’s claim and asserts that the state cannot be sued. Senator Estrada explained that the Magna Cara will be funded by proceeds from Pagcor, PCSO, sequestered assets by PCGG and auctioned cargo by BOC. Senator Pangilinan further clarified that the P3 trillion figure arrived at by the palace seems to have been raised from previous assumptions factored in the bill.

    At the end of the day, the veto of PNoy is all about money. The senators clearly saw the bill to be adequately funded from the proceeds of the mentioned institutions. The palace wants at least P3 trillion. Why the palace wants more is rather suspect. Is it in aid of legislation or in aid of election in 2016?

    (Drilon and Pangilinan are not entirely supportive of Roxas’s presidential ambition, because they too have higher aspirations)…

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    In yesterday afternoon’s DZMM interview, Senator Pangilinan disputed the palace’s claim and asserts that the state cannot be sued. Senator Estrada explained that the Magna Cara will be funded by proceeds from Pagcor, PCSO, sequestered assets by PCGG and auctioned cargo by BOC. Senator Pangilinan further clarified that the P3 trillion figure arrived at by the palace seems to have been raised from previous assumptions factored in the bill.

    At the end of the day, the veto of PNoy is all about money. The senators clearly saw the bill to be adequately funded from the proceeds of the mentioned institutions. The palace wants at least P3 trillion. Why the palace wants more is rather suspect. Is it in aid of legislation or in aid of election in 2016?

    (Drilon and Pangilinan are not entirely supportive of Roxas’s presidential ambition, because they too have higher aspirations).

    • Jane Tan

      Pucha… funded by proceeds from Pagcor and PCSO!? Eh di alam na! Front nanaman yan for money-laundering.

  • edleon

    I’m glad that PNOY vetoed this MAGNA CUARTA ng mga ilang Senatongs and Tongressman.. mga magnanakaw ng kwarta ng bayan.

  • Joaquin Fernandez

    As to why this incomplete Magna Carta was passed is another puzzle. . Where to get the sources of funds were not explicit. Give the lands of the rich to the poor? Is this a novel idea. Is this a simple procedure to implement?

  • 2rey3

    Marcoleta invoking the Pope’s name but one of the proponents of RH?? Height of hypocrisy!!! Why not support the bill which is good as far as I am concerned based on its merits?? Alagad as a partylist thru Mercoleta has allowed itself to be used by GMA and he was one of the main proponents in junking the impeachment complaint against GMA?? No to hypocrisy!!!

  • niqui_ley

    kailan magkakaroon ng magna carta for the middle class? yung mga walang laban na kinukuhanan ng buwis pero hirap makakuha ng bahay? hindi makapag pagamot ng malubhang sakit?

    ang magna carta for the poor ay tuturuan lang ang mahihirap na umasa sa gobyerno imbes na magsumikap. papalakasin niyan ang loob nila na maging mahirap dahil meron masasandalan. sabi nga “Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.”

  • pedronimo

    Why not just pass a bill to make the poor rich and the rich poor? This is easier passed and published than done. Such a Magna Carta for the poor is hypocritical and will only make the poor poorer in their struggle to succeed. Congressmen are acting like Willie Revillame- SHOWBIZMEN JERKS.

  • Qwxyz

    gusto lang magpabango ng pangalan ang mga proponents nyan kung sakali, alam naman nilang kakapusin ng budget yan.

  • Jack Phalaphitac

    Narcoleta, the pope in Rome is talking about helping the poor, he is not talking about deceiving them.. You see, nothing is more painful to the poor than promising them heaven and then giving them hell. Break a promise, more to your number two, and you’ll get what you do not wish for. Look at Enrile, well, another story.

    If you really are after the poor’s welfare, you should have asked Villar to give half of the billions he spent during the last elections to the poor. And you should have asked your church also to give half of what it received from him to the poor too.

    A bill with no funding to carry it through to it’s implementation? Stop the epal and review your arithmetic.

  • katabay1106

    Providing funds for this Magna Carta for the Poor from the Pork Barrel Funds of the lawmakers will solve the problem.

  • Edward Castro

    stop all legislations that promote mendicancy!

  • Serom

    This is just papogi points for the authors. Please do not believe in them. They do not even care of the overall ramifications of the law they created. Where will the government get the fund for the implementation of the law? These authors, if they are really true to their intentions, should be the first ones to shell out their PDAF or pork barrel to the poor.

  • Serom

    Where can u find a country like this. People create so many children and they depend from the government everything – house and land, food, health care, education and everything. The authors of the law must be insane.

    • Pulokoy

      Here in AU thats the situation .. some people investment are their kids

      • Serom

        I understand that that AU is a rich country. But Philippines is a poor country and our government is having a hard time providing basic social services.

        The problem here is that the poor people living in the squatters area particularly produce too many children and does not even think of how to provide for them. They rely on the scanty resources of the government to provide for them.

  • jat2x

    To Marcoleta: Hindi kaya kayo ang Magka Cuarta sa Magna Carta na yan?I give nyo na lang pork barrel nyo, matutuwa pa kami.

  • edmanuel

    This and the CCT programs are just propagating indolence, dependency, and parasitic behavior among the poor.

  • Magsasaka

    it’s better if we have a magna carta for a better economy, just like filipino first policy wherein local businesses are protected against foreign interest

  • Lauro

    MAGNA CARTA THIS … MAGNA CARTA THAT … PARA MAGKA KUARTA … SINO??????
    MAHIHIRAP PA RIN ANG MGA DAPAT NA BENEFICIARIES … YUMAMAN LANG ANG MGA MAGNA(NAKAW) ng C(U)ARTA!!!!

  • $14334231

    “Manga Cuarta” sa bulsa ang ibig sabihin ni marcoleta alyas “Makulit Ka”…ilan ang matutulungan mong mahirap sa distrito mo (kung meron ka man) sa PH70 milyon mong PDAF…bakit di mo umpisahan at gamitin mo muna ‘yan?….tapos, sabihin mo rin sa mga kasama mong tonggressman ang gagawin mo at kung may hiya sila, susundin ang gagawin mo….otherwise, shut your big mouth…walang pampundo ang gobyerno at isa pa, palagi na lang aasa ang mga mahihirap sa limos ng pamahalaan at pag di nagbigyan, magagalit….bigyan mo ng tig dadalawang libo, 3,500,000 na pamilya ang liligaya dahil sa ‘yo (parang kantang “dahil sa ‘yo”)…….pwede na ba ito, Makulit Ka?….hehehe….

  • $25995786

    Magagaling na lawmakers bago kayo magreklamo sabihin ninyo saan manggagaling ang funds.

  • noelpogi

    Hoy, Marcoleta, saan mo kukunin yun pera pangtustus dito. Binobola mo ang mga mahihirap at gusto mo rin utuin ang presidente na gawin batas ito.

  • noelpogi

    KATAMARAN ang ituturo nito sa mga poor. Di bale ng mahirap, me darating naman biyaya, hindi ka pa PAGOD. Anak ng…… buhay to o. Hoy Marcoleta magsumikap ka.

  • thecop

    Pnoy’s Question: Where do we get the money for Magna Carta for the poor? Answer: fundings for this law for the poor can be sourced from all the money stolen by all corrupt politicians from the time of Marcos to the present. Question: Why? Answer: Because the filipinos become poor mainly because peoples’s money went into the pockets of these corrupt politicians! Question: Would all the stolen money enough to fund this law? Answer: More than enough! Question: Is there justice in this solution? Answer: Yes!

  • Pulokoy

    Giving money to the poor is simply giving them a reason to … malaking abuso ito pag nagkataon .. here in AU merong ganyan and pinagkaiba honest yung iba dito

  • buttones

    It’s quite extraordinary isn’t it, this overt concern regarding the poor
    which, oddly enough, coincides with 3 and 6 year circus events. The real poverty
    levels in PH since 1946 have actually increased by more than 100%, the result, one
    assumes, of this ‘concern’. By that I mean in 1946 there were about 15 million
    lost souls and now there is about 30 million – I do not consider this as some
    sort of progress. Others may. Coincidently enough, during this intervening period the Captains of our good ship PH have for the most part come from a section of society generally described as ‘landed gentry’ or in local parlance ‘Big shots’- Call them what you will, it is evident that the whole ‘experiment’ has been a dismal failure, not just on this ‘poor’ topic but on other ones as well,
    I mean managing to pave only 5% of village roads in over 67 years seems to me
    pathetic, let the alone the 30% of us that don’t even have a toilet, and the 20% that don’t even have a tap to turn on for fresh water, I dare not even mention the power problems in the South.

    No, I think it’s fair to say the last 67 years have resulted in an unmitigated
    disaster…

  • screwdisk

    People’s tax money is wasted again to these gunggong and inutil na mga lawmakers… hay naku!

  • Rose Teribe

    yan mga politicians na yan kong saan malapit ang elections mabilis ang pagpasa ng batas… papogi ang mga trapo :)

  • indiosbravos2002

    Unrealistic and inutile bill. All these party list congressmen and Mr. Sharon Cuneta have passed a law that will lead the government to bancrupcy. How do they get the funds to make this law work? Through loans and higher taxes for the everyday man. This is what you call passing the buck andd not taking any responsibility for a law that could ruin us all. If we own oil fields or diamond mines, then probably we can support this bill otherwise this should go the garbage bin where it belongs along with those dimwits whoauthored the bill.

  • alex_diaz2014

    I totally agree with the veto! Mga tamad at mga trapong pulitiko lang ang nakikinabang dun sa bill na yun. Panahon na para ipaalam sa mga mahihirap na sila ang may pangunahing na may tungkuling mag-ahon sa sarili nila sa kahirapan, hindi puro na lang asa sa gobyerno o sa iba.

  • $5699914

    Too much coddle to the so-called poor people….I am not anti-poor, just anti-lazy!

  • KpTUL

    Marcoleta is dreaming ! The proposal is like telling the word that if she run for the presidency in the the US, she will win it single-handedly against Sarkozy ! Seriously she needs to go to and have her mind checked.

  • Drillon Recto

    What? 3Trillion pesos just to give to the poor? That’s laughable. I commend P-Noy for vetoing it. It’s just a waste of taxpayers money. Believe me, whatever programs these advocates are proposing that requires 3T pesos are all hogwash. They will just enrich themselves and 3T pesos later, the poor are still poor if not poorer.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A5B6G6DFLT7HKQX4HEJNN5VLVY neo

    Just USE the Internal Revenue Allotment (IRA) and use Pork Barrel for the pro poor programs. Am I fantasizing?

  • $25995786

    Marcoleta, Ilagan, nasaan ang pera para tugunin ang batas. As usual our lawmakers make bill just to make one without providing the mechanism for funding. Pnoy is right, walang pera for this bill.

  • malek_abdul

    For once I agree with Pnoy for vetoing this bill. How can the government enact a law without funds? Wishful thinking ang mga authors and co-authors of this bill. This bill is good but its next to impossible for the government to raise P3 trillion for the implementation of this bill if enacted into law. Does this bill had the time frame on how the P3 trillion pesos be spent? Baka 1% lang na naman ang mapunta sa mga mahihirap at ang 99% ay mapunta sa mga “buwaya” sa gobyerno. Wala kasing pwedeng pagkatiwaan sa gobyerno at mga pulitiko natin.

  • John Smith

    Abolish PORK BARREL and give it to the poor! Nuff said.

  • disqusted0fu

    This present administration is really anti poor. They have abandoned the poor typhoon pablo victims, continue to deprive farmers from lands that rightfully belong to them and now the President has vetoed a law that’s supposed to help uplift their lives from poverty. Is that the tuwid na daan???

  • virgoyap

    Helping the poor must also be realistic. I can’t help the poor if I have nothing in my pocket to help.

  • bosesprobinsyano

    Manila- Metro Manila, is a mess with lots of dirty streets, alleys and canals. Street people/informal settlers, beggars , crimes and lawlessness and other social problems keep on growing . This is also true in some cities. Roads in the entire nation need to be develop. They government needs “ intelligence network” and resources to solve crimes . The 25 million poor must also be hungry. Millions are jobless. We even have the “payatas-tragedy”- were people died because a pile of trash collapse “. Comes Ondoy which according to many- is a product of unplanned and unregulated development, dirty/logged canals, and neglect . These billions of funds for anti poverty programs could be used to solve all these problems – poverty and other social ills can be solved gradually with proper planning. NO to dole outs and promotion of mendicancy. The poor needs to be encouraged to strive hard and commit to excellence ( not to feel that there is glory and comfort in being poor and helpless). Not to “band aid” treatment. They poor can be given job- as workers in the proposed infra to prevent flooding in Metro Manila, as environment protectors/cleaners, road maintenance workers, or law enforcers or spies. Poor people in the provinces could be encouraged to plant and produce food – to make food affordable, and deliver their products to urban and food scare areas . With affordable food, urban workers can save money and could afford to finance the building of their houses. The government can even make a design an plan of a dream house – and can train many of the jobless citizens as skilled workers. The informal settlers could be the builders of their own homes . Incentives can be given to those who perform well in the society, those who report and apprehend criminals (even for simple crime such as throwing plastic or destroy street lights ). The government may spend few millions to come up with a good plan- consulting all sectors of the society, planners and experts and the academe. Tama ka Pinoy. Good planning first before papogi . How come that Congress was able to pass a law for the alleged poor but only few of the poor or the public even knew about it ? Was there proper consultation and planning? Papogi or some people who have interest to control the projects are lobbying for it? The poor themselves – the lgus, have ideas and can help solve the problem.
    Manila- Metro Manila, is a mess with lots of dirty streets, alleys and canals. Street people/informal settlers, beggars , crimes and lawlessness and other social problems keep on growing . This is also true in some cities. Roads in the entire nation need to be develop. They government needs “ intelligence network” and resources to solve crimes . The 25 million poor must also be hungry. Millions are jobless. We even have the “payatas-tragedy”- were people died because a pile of trash collapse “. Comes Ondoy which according to many- is a product of unplanned and unregulated development, dirty/logged canals, and neglect . These billions of funds for anti poverty programs could be used to solve all these problems – poverty and other social ills can be solved gradually with proper planning. NO to dole outs and promotion of mendicancy. The poor needs to be encouraged to strive hard and commit to excellence ( not to feel that there is glory and comfort in being poor and helpless). Not to “band aid” treatment. They poor can be given job- as workers in the proposed infra to prevent flooding in Metro Manila, as environment protectors/cleaners, road maintenance workers, or law enforcers or spies. Poor people in the provinces could be encouraged to plant and produce food – to make food affordable, and deliver their products to urban and food scare areas . With affordable food, urban workers can save money and could afford to finance the building of their houses. The government can even make a design an plan of a dream house – and can train many of the jobless citizens as skilled workers. The informal settlers could be the builders of their own homes . Incentives can be given to those who perform well in the society, those who report and apprehend criminals (even for simple crime such as throwing plastic or destroy street lights ). The government may spend few millions to come up with a good plan- consulting all sectors of the society, planners and experts and the academe. Tama ka Pinoy. Good planning first before papogi . How come that Congress was able to pass a law for the alleged poor but only few of the poor or the public even knew about it ? Was there proper consultation and planning? Papogi or some people who have interest to control the projects are lobbying for it? The poor themselves – the lgus, have ideas and can help solve the problem.

  • bosesprobinsyano

    The poor needs help for them to have economic freedom -not for them to be well provided “beggars”. They need jobs- and salary that could help them build a home , send their children to college, provide food to their family and have access to health. There are also hardworking poor that really needs access to opportunities . We hope that the president and congress will create a workable system/law that would really help the poor. We can only say that a system is working if- -economic condition of the poor is uplifted- they earn income/their purchasing power increases/they could afford for their basic need, and they have proper education. If most of those given help could not improve or at least maintain/sustain/preserve the “standard after help has been given” or what is given to them, that program is a failure . They may acquire a house but may sell it later. Most of these “homeless” settlers left the provinces because the government neglected the agricultural/rural sector , and development is centralized. Who will benefit more from trillion of pesos budgeted – the poor or “-developers, cartels that control the market/supply of steel/G.I and cement “, etcs. After giving them support more poor will sprout. Aside from giving economic freedom to the poor- the government should DISMANTLE the trader’s mafia which controls the economy. There should be really fair and healthy competition . But for health and education, the government needs to provide and intervene. Kennedy says “A society who cannot help the many who are poor cannot save the few who are rich”. Development must be brought to the provinces and not centralized. Government needs to send more dedicated agriculturist and agricultural engineers in towns – not bullets or more law enforcers involved in vices, gambling and drugs. There should be more dedicated dentist, nurses and doctors, and agricultural engineers and technicians in the towns – than policemen, kagawads and consultants- number of kagawads can be reduced, and budget for them for doctors , dentists and agricultural engineers. . Give millions to towns, barangays and provinces which are well governed and with less or no crimes . Discipline local officials, local planning officers, legislators, heads of office of local and national government agencies who failed to perform – and local chief executives and officers of the AFP and PNP in areas where crimes are not solved , by depriving them of their benefits to removal . Implementation of PDAF and pork barrel should be left to multi sectoral groups and expert in each district and region for senators and congressmen to focus on quality legislation . Good governance- transparency, accountability, peoples participation/empowerment and peoples initiative shall be funded- giving fund to CSO and made a subject in the elementary, highs school and college. Revamp and reengineer the government .
    The poor needs help for them to have economic freedom -not for them to be well provided “beggars”. They need jobs- and salary that could help them build a home , send their children to college, provide food to their family and have access to health. There are also hardworking poor that really needs access to opportunities . We hope that the president and congress will create a workable system/law that would really help the poor. We can only say that a system is working if- -economic condition of the poor is uplifted- they earn income/their purchasing power increases/they could afford for their basic need, and they have proper education. If most of those given help could not improve or at least maintain/sustain/preserve the “standard after help has been given” or what is given to them, that program is a failure . They may acquire a house but may sell it later. Most of these “homeless” settlers left the provinces because the government neglected the agricultural/rural sector , and development is centralized. Who will benefit more from trillion of pesos budgeted – the poor or “-developers, cartels that control the market/supply of steel/G.I and cement “, etcs. After giving them support more poor will sprout. Aside from giving economic freedom to the poor- the government should DISMANTLE the trader’s mafia which controls the economy. There should be really fair and healthy competition . But for health and education, the government needs to provide and intervene. Kennedy says “A society who cannot help the many who are poor cannot save the few who are rich”. Development must be brought to the provinces and not centralized. Government needs to send more dedicated agriculturist and agricultural engineers in towns – not bullets or more law enforcers involved in vices, gambling and drugs. There should be more dedicated dentist, nurses and doctors, and agricultural engineers and technicians in the towns – than policemen, kagawads and consultants- number of kagawads can be reduced, and budget for them for doctors , dentists and agricultural engineers. . Give millions to towns, barangays and provinces which are well governed and with less or no crimes . Discipline local officials, local planning officers, legislators, heads of office of local and national government agencies who failed to perform – and local chief executives and officers of the AFP and PNP in areas where crimes are not solved , by depriving them of their benefits to removal . Implementation of PDAF and pork barrel should be left to multi sectoral groups and expert in each district and region for senators and congressmen to focus on quality legislation . Good governance- transparency, accountability, peoples participation/empowerment and peoples initiative shall be funded- giving fund to CSO and made a subject in the elementary, highs school and college. Revamp and reengineer the government .

  • cooldoods

    The intention was good but the bill proponents should have realistically known it would never be signed into law.

  • JasonBieber

    When has PNoy done anything significant in helping the poor?

    You can be disappointed that he did not want to help the poor but you cannot be surprised. You can be disappointed that he gave another excuse in why he did not help the poor but you cannot be surprised. And don’t be surprised if in a short while he decides to blame him not helping the poor on GMA.

    • Jesse_Bruce_Pinkman

      Sows. Kunyari ka pa e. Magjakol ka na lang.

  • mavtan

    Paano katangahan naman ang batas na ito. Sa housing pa lang kulang na ang national budget na 2 trillion. Mag-isip naman sana ang author ng mga bill nasasayang lang ang mga pork barrel na kinukupit ninyo.

  • abbaj

    Good decision by pnoy. Agree with most posters here. That freakin’ law will just result to perpetual mendicant thinking of the so called poor people. Teach them how to fish, don’t give them fish always. Besides it’s unfair to those who pay 25-30% income tax every month. That unggoy senator’s other bill is the kasambahay bill. What an idiot. He should think of better maroeconomic bill. Example, increase science MS and PhD graduates, sponsor balik pinoy scientists who can setup companies that will create jobs, improve agriculture (improve irrigation in central luzon and other prime agricultural areas), improve the lives of farmers by teaching them how to be self sufficient rather than too dependent from loan sharks, improve power cost to attract more investors, encourage tax payment and further improve tax collection, compete on areas that we are very competitive (software, manufacturing, knowledge based jobs), and most of all, jail and shoot to kill economic plunderers and corrupt public officials!

    • Jesse_Bruce_Pinkman

      Best comment so far.

  • JosengSisiw1

    In the first place how can our brainless congressmen & senators passed a bill without a clear indication of how how it will be funded and where will the money be coming from. Or we can say that both the houses are too brainy they don’t want to be branded as anti poor so they just passed the buck to Aquino.

  • gikiness

    Dito ako bilib kay Noynoy, maski election season na at may pambabala sa kanya ang mga TRAPONG politicians, mas matimbang sa kanya kung ano ang tama.

    si Gloria pa yan, approve na agad agad. Election season na at pampapogi points at baka gawing Holiday pa yang araw ng pagpirma nya para maemphasize sa mahihirap ang pagpirma nya. Siguro para matuloy yan Magna Carta ng mahihirap at magkapondo, iallocate na ang pork barrel ng mga Tongressman at Senatong sa Magna Carta na yan

    • Mr. Skeptic

      How do you know that GMA will approve such a bill if it was presented to her during her term? I would like to hire you as my psychic then. LOL

      Anyway, there’s nothing impressive about PNoy vetoing that bill. It’s plain common sense.

      • gikiness

        bobo ka kasi kaya di mo narealize mga papogi points ni gloria. Example na lang yang Ramadan, predominantly catholic country tayo pero holiday ang ramadan para pogi points sa mga muslims voters. Its plain common sense lang at simple math ang pag veto, kung ang bagong batas kailangan ng 2 piso, at ang budget mo lang ay piso, ibig sabihin, hindi kaya ng budget mo, gets mo? bobo ka ng row 4

      • gikiness

        by the way highway, trillions po ang pinaguusapan sa budget at di piso piso lang. Kung bobo ka sa math, I bet hindi mo alam kung ilang digits ang pag trillions na ang pinaguuusapan. Pakibilang po at pakiisip kung kakayanin ng kukote mo kung kaya ng budget mo yun.

      • Mr. Skeptic

        You’re a fackin retard, where did I say that this useless bill doesn’t cost trillions of pesos? You’re putting words into my mouth Mr. Wannabe Psychic. LOL. I bet you can also read GMA’s mind. Jesus.. I’m not even a supporter of GMA but you are embarrassing yourself.

      • Jesse_Bruce_Pinkman

        But how do you know that she wouldn’t sign it? Gloria signing anything just to make a name for herself is plain common sense

      • Guest

        I don’t know if she would sign it or if she would veto it. I don’t even like that woman, but we can’t can’t read her mind.

        Anyway, she has accomplished better things for the country than our present Malacanang tenant. Not saying that she was a saint.

  • JosengSisiw1

    It looks like both Alagad Rep. Rodante Marcoleta & Gabriela Rep. Luzviminda Ilagan has been used by some members of the senate and congress to create a bill that will embarrass the Aquino government and be branded as anti poor. It’s very easy to say that you are pro poor but proving it with a poorly authored bill could backfire and be an embarrassment to those who pushes for it.

  • Mr. Skeptic

    How about these honorable congressmen and senators give up their pork barrel funds, if they are indeed pro-poor? I know they won’t, because if there’s no pork barrel, they wouldn’t be there in the first place. LOL

    • malek_abdul

      These congressmen and senators and all politicians are all pro-poor….

      …only during election time.

  • lennonpaul

    eh wala ngang pera ang govt para ma realized yan AGAAAAAD!

  • http://www.facebook.com/zigmar.torres Zigmar Torres

    I very well remember MARCOLETA as ARROVO henchman in Congress. Why didn’t passed this during his Godmother’s time?

  • http://www.facebook.com/zigmar.torres Zigmar Torres

    MARCOLETA i-waive mo yung sweldo mo at pork barrel as seed fund for the poor to show that you are sincere on this.

  • Jake Lopez

    epal na naman ang mga trapo. Akala mo mga mararangal na makamahirap. Pnoy was simply being realistic and managerial. You can’t solve poverty with a stroke of a pen and allocate more than what the nation could afford. Kung serioso ang mga gumawa at nag-approve nitong Magna Carta na ito..e bakit ngayon lang??? Matagal na naghihirap ang bayan at matagal na rin yumayaman ang mga politiko.

  • http://twitter.com/carinabaylon carina baylon

    Kaya gusto ni Rep Marcoleta mapasa ang bill, laki malamang ng kick back niya diyan kung sakali no…Kaya mas mas bagay talaga sa kanya ang MarKOLEKTA

  • bert santos

    Si Rep Rodante Marcoleta akala mo pupulutin lang sa sahig ang budget para sa magna carta. Gamitin mo naman utak mo para di kalawangin

    • http://twitter.com/MarshJalandoni Marsh Jalandoni

      Korek, kung mangagaling sa bulsa ni Rep Marcoleta ang budget sa magna carta sige go yan hehe

  • http://twitter.com/digjanedig jane bungkal

    Paano naging congressman si Rodante Marcoleta, hindi pala marunong pagdating sa batas. Kabisaduhin niya batas, mahiya siya

  • http://twitter.com/BennyO_ Benny Olarte

    Tigilan ni Marcoleta ang kadramahan niya, gusto lang niyang sumikat ngayon at nagpapa pogi sa mga mahihirap

  • white scorpion

    hirap dito kay jinggoy. sinusubo ang gobierno sa gipit na kalagayan. willing ka bang iambag ang POORK BARREL mo? matanda ka na, mag-isip ka naman. mahusay ka maggrand standing. hindi naman ikaw ang magpapatupad ng batas. dugay ka na sa politika, TUNTO ka pa giyaput………..

  • Dieserweg

    Dump RH which will spend billions on condoms to benefit only the multinationals. Instead, channel those billions on this law. Check also pertinent laws that are not being implemented if only to see how a law like RH redundant and useless.

  • fernan107

    marcoleta , ilagan , di masama ang ginagawa niyo pero pinag iisipan ng husto …halatang namomolitika lang naman kayo , saan kukunin ng gobyerno ang budget? mga ugok… ka indo naman…

  • Jesse_Bruce_Pinkman

    What if we spent 1 trillion pesos in rewarding those who can kill the most poor people? P500 for every beggar who sleeps on the sidewalk. Not only are they an ugly sight, they are also unpredictably dangerous.

    If we killed all the poor people, we wouldn’t have this much problem.

    Poor people are breeding like rats. It’s fine if they produce smart kids but most of the kids they bring to this world are dumber and stupider than rocks.

    With a country that is plagued by hordes and hordes of corrupt and stupid people, this country is hopeless.

    It is the poor people who are voting the corrupt politicians who plunder this country dry. It is the poor people who are the ones taking this country down.

    • Herman Near

      While I find your measure radical and way distateful, you do have your positive points.

      Many of these poor also pollute the mindset with utter negativity.

  • Jesse_Bruce_Pinkman

    Si Marcoleta nangako sa mga tao na pipirmahan daw ni Pnoy yung bill kaya sinabi niya sa mga tao na puwede na sila mangutang kasi once napirmahan na yung bill, makakatanggap sila kaagad. Sabi ni Marcoleta di raw puwedeng di pirmahan ni Pnoy yung bill kasi sasama daw ang tingin ng mga tao sa kanya.

    Si Marcoleta may kickback sa mga nagpapautang. Kaya patay siya ngayon.

    Púta, namumuta ako sa kakakayod tapos makakalibre lang ‘tong mga hayup na mga patay-gutom na mga mahihirap na di marunong mag banat ng buto. Yung sahod ko kada buwan ay P11,000 lang tapos kakaltasan pa ng tax tapos ang mga pataygutom na mga mahihirap na to walang binabayaran maski tax, pahirap pa sa bayan tapos tatanggap ng P10,000 kada buwan para ipangsugal. Punyeta yan.

    Ako hindi na makakain kasi magbabayad pa ng upa ng bahay, este, kama tapos magkakabahay ang mga pataygutom na mga mahihirap na ito? Sinong mas mahirap sa atin ngayon?

  • Ariel Molina

    Tama ang ginawa ni pnoy . Pero ok Lang pabahay sa mga kababayan nating nagsisiksikan sa maynila . Pero food di na maganda yan. Ilaan nalang sa mga programa ang sobra at gawing lebreng pagpasok sa mga unemployed Filipino sa pag aral ng welding, carpentre , catering or chef, computer IT , plastering,plumber, furniture maker . Mga Bagay na Ito need ng Australia Bahrain at iba pang bansa, ng mapadala ang mga unemployed workers natin sa mga bansang yan. Entrepreneurship para sariling negosyo. Ito Dapat tutukan ng gobyerno.

  • PuncanMind

    I think marcoleta is scratching his head now after reading comments below. He thinks that people are stupid. But no one bites, instead he exposed his stupidness by proposing an unworkable law just so he gets browny points but it backfired and got booos. I can’t forget how this fake congressman defended the fake president in every way during the garci tape anomaly giving the most stupid argument just to please her. By the way, I call him fake because he, too, stole his position from the alagad party list, google it.

  • kismaytami

    Ang ipasa nyong batas ay yung nagbabawal sa CCT.

  • GustoKoHappyKa

    Buti pa sila na “mahihirap” bibigyan ng LIBRENG BAHAY!!!!
    bat kaya hindi nyo muna unahin yung mga taong nagbabayad ng BUWIS!!! yung mga nagpapakahirap magtrabaho para lang guminghawa ang buhay. yung mga magulang na nagpapa aral…
    kung yung pera na gagastusin nyo dyan para sa “MAHIHIRAP” eh ipang papagawa nyo ng SCHOOL, HOSPITAL…payag pa ko at ang mga taong nababayad ng buwis!!!!

    kaya tama lang na I VETO yan batas na yan…

  • Elaine

    Shouldn’t Mr Pangilinan and co.instead be propagating values on
    hardwork, thrift, the dignity of labor and honest work for decent pay? Poverty is multi-faceted and socio-economic inequity has its roots in structural, systemic, historical, cultural etc issues that could not be be simply addressed by motherhood statements in a legislative bill. Foremost, the bill should define its targeted beneficiairies. My heart goes out for the marginalized in the society … the orphans, the physically and mentally disabled, the sick, the elderly….they are those unable to help themselves. And who are the “impoverished”? the “downtrodden”? “the poor”? “the weak”? “the needy”? If society puts away its rose-colored glasses & visit local communities, they certainly will be met by woes of unemployed men/women/teens. But at a minimum, all local neighborhoods in the Phil have a high demand for househelps in local neighborhoods (full time/part time, all-around, specialized jobs, stay-in/stay-out etc). but even low-income unemployed women/female teens disdain jobs that are: 1) tedious like the unpaid housekeeping tasks; or 2) that will take them away even for 4 hours away from their homes because they have a spouse with 3-12 children to look after & none of them help them out with housekeeping in their homes; or 3) jobs that are regarded as dirty, unglamorous or lonely with no chance to engage in socializing. What is the general desirable job? a job that pays more than the minimum wage & will support 5 to 14 members with only 1 wage earner in the household; very accessible to residence; glamorous like services in institutional/commercial establishments (school/hospital janitor, waitresses/waiter, salesgirls. clerks etc); or a job where it is fun as they work in groups that allows for socialization (not a lonely job). I know of cashier-clerks with take home pay of P1,500 a month (she pays for her own meals, uniform, make-up, transport etc) and the manicurist who is paid P120 a day (pays for her meals & transport) but the work situ are the glamorous malls. The lowly-regarded househelp generally earn P3,000 a month net (with toiletries, clothes, all consumables in the house provided/taken from the employer) without any prior housekeeping skills…stays on 1 to 2 months and leaves after having worked for the cash to pay off the family’s debts (but with very few takers despite the high demand). Phil society should begin rewarding those who help themselves rather than continue to perpetuate the culture of dole-outs and hand-outs!

  • TEAM PNOY

    Imagine, the poor man who is not even a taxpayer is going to get a FREE condo unit worth approx Php1M.

    Now, I am a taxpayer, I pay taxes regularly without being a tax cheat, I paid my taxes before the April15 deadline. And yet, I still do not own any condo unit, I do not own any car – I just commute, and I do not get a free condo unit from the taxes that I paid. Why? Because I work hard, go to office from 8 to 5pm, get home tired, and I have a regular job.

    Is it fair?

  • koolkid_inthehouse

    Filipinos don’t need magna carta crap from donkeys. Filipinos are willing to work on level playing field. Give them jobs jobs jobs and more jobs. If Filipinos have full time permanent jobs, they feel secure to get a mortgage from the bank and buy a house wherever they want to live.
    More tax revenue generated if more jobs are created in this country.

    Donkeys in congress and senate should work to legislate job creations.

  • koolkid_inthehouse

    Why a Magna Carta for the Poor? The poor don’t need a Magna Carta from wealthy congressmen and senators.
    The Filipino people is willing to work to raise their living standard. Give them jobs jobs jobs and more jobs. Full time permanent jobs with benefits so they feel secure to get a mortgage from the bank and buy their own house wherever they want to live.

    The donkeys in congress and senate should work on a ligislation that will create jobs. Not a racist Magna Carta for the Poor created by rich and corrupt politicians.

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