MILF: President Aquino gave us hope

Opposition lawmaker seeks details of talks

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A top Moro rebel leader on Sunday said the Tokyo talks between President Aquino and Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) chair Murad Ebrahim had given the insurgents “new hope” for an end to a decades-old war that had claimed tens of thousands of lives.

MILF vice chair Ghadzali Jaafar said the rebel leadership believed in Mr. Aquino’s seriousness in ending the fighting but Jaafar also cautioned against expecting a peace pact to be signed during the present administration, given the nature of Philippine politics.

He said the political opposition always looked for ways to put down an administration in order to win in the next elections.

“Politics in the Philippines means after every election some politicians are immediately focused on the next elections, especially the opposition,” Jaafar said in a phone interview with Manila-based reporters.

Jaafar spoke from “somewhere” in Mindanao to assess the results of Thursday’s secret meeting in a Tokyo hotel between the President and Murad.

Malacañang has given few details about what the meeting achieved, prompting opposition lawmakers to demand specifics.

Jaafar admitted that until Mr. Aquino offered to meet with Murad, some Moro rebel leaders felt the peace talks with the government would not get anywhere.

Sincerity doubted

“There were members of the central committee who were doubtful of the sincerity and seriousness of the Aquino administration before the meeting, before this administration offered to us the proposed meeting,” Jaafar said in Filipino.

“In the 14 years negotiating with the Philippine government … admittedly among the leaders of the MILF and the Bangsamoro there were those who have lost hope, who think that the chances that the talks would be successful had gone down,” he said.

“There are leaders who in fact think the government is not sincere, not serious in wanting a peaceful solution to the problem. So this meeting was a shot in the arm, like an injection, because it could bring new hope to leaders who had little hope,” he added.

Jaafar said he and other members of the MILF central committee discussed several times Mr. Aquino’s offer to meet and “we saw his seriousness.”

‘Positive development’

Jaafar said both sides laid down the talking points before the meeting, but he was not at liberty to give details.

He said that after the meeting, he received many calls and text messages not only from within the MILF ranks but from outside “expressing their support.”

“That means other leaders in Mindanao, even those outside the MILF leadership, have accepted that this is a positive development and they hope this trend will continue so it will boost the peace talks,” Jaafar said.

The 12,000-strong MILF initially aimed for an independent Moro state in the mostly Catholic country but is now focused on autonomy.

The 14 years of on-off negotiations have often been marred by violence and distrust.

There was widespread anger after then President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo offered the MILF a proposed peace deal in 2008 that would have given them control over vast tracts of land.

The Supreme Court rejected the plan and rogue MILF commanders launched attacks on communities in Mindanao that left about 400 people dead and displaced more than 750,000.

Tens of thousands of people have died since the separatist war, led by then Moro rebel leader Nur Misuari, broke out in the early 1970s. At one point in the mid-1970s, then dictator Ferdinand Marcos put the number of deaths in the war at 120,000.

Heightened expectations

While Malacañang was heartened by the positive reaction to the Aquino-Murad meeting, some members of Mr. Aquino’s own political coalition called for caution.

“There is hard work ahead for President Aquino [and his advisers],” Akbayan Rep. Walden Bello said in a text message. “They must now deliver on heightened expectations since failure can result in a worse situation than before the meeting.”

Bello said an MILF proposal for the creation of “a substate” for Muslims “should be done through a constitutional amendment and not merely through executive fiat.”

He cited the ill-fated Bangsamoro Juridical Entity (BJE), which the Arroyo administration and the MILF tried to launch in 2008 but which the Supreme Court struck down.

Real autonomy

Bello said it was about time that the Moro people are given real autonomy.

“The ARMM (Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao) simply gave the illusion of autonomy while making Muslim Mindanao a financial ward of the Philippine state,” he said.

MILF negotiators have likened their proposed substate to one of the 50 US federated states. They envision a setup where the Muslim substate would exercise all government functions except those on national defense, foreign affairs, currency and postal services which would be exclusively exercised by the central government.

Secrecy only for lovers

House Minority Leader Edcel Lagman said the minority bloc would reject any peace agreement with the MILF unless Mr. Aquino gave details of his one-on-one meeting with Murad.

“Secrets may be maintained between lovers, but there should be no secrets between the President and the Filipino people,” Lagman said in a statement. “The bits and pieces of information which trickled to media are scanty and stereotyped.”

“The House minority supports the President’s initiative for a peaceful settlement of the armed conflict but we cannot support a peace agenda whose parameters are nebulous and whose terms of engagement and possible agreement are concealed,” Lagman said.

Among the questions Lagman wanted the President to answer was how the ARMM would fit into an eventual agreement.

He also said Mr. Aquino should say why the meeting was kept a secret and reveal the “bottom-line demands” of the MILF.

Not a public relations job

The President’s deputy spokesperson, Abigail Valte, said most people welcomed his unprecedented move to speed up the talks.

“By far, we have seen that the reactions of our countrymen have been positive, especially among the stakeholders in Mindanao,” Valte said.

She said the Tokyo meeting was held “not for PR (public relations)” purposes or to make the President look good in the eyes of the people.

“The President saw the opportunity and he knew taking that opportunity will go a long way in kick-starting the talks that have been stalled for so long. So let’s focus on the good results that the President achieved,” she told state-run dzRB radio.

Valte dismissed as “cowardly, undiplomatic and unintelligent” the remarks made by an unnamed diplomat who said Mr. Aquino’s meeting with Murad was an act of treason.

She said she did not think the diplomat would ever come out and own up to that statement.

Don’t forget Lumad

Vice President Jejomar Binay urged Filipinos to support the administration’s peace initiatives. He lauded the decision of the MILF “to drop its agenda of establishing an independent state.”

A Roman Catholic prelate from Mindanao said the Tokyo meeting could finally pave the way for lasting peace in the region.

Speaking on Church-run Radio Veritas, Cagayan de Oro Archbishop Antonio Ledesma said he was optimistic a final peace agreement with the MILF would be signed under the Aquino administration.

But Ledesma also said the peace panels must also include the rights of the Lumad, or the indigenous people in the region, in forging an agreement. With reports from AFP, Christine O. Avendaño, Jerry E. Esplanada, Jocelyn R. Uy and Inquirer Research

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  • Anonymous

    hindi mawawala ang kagustuhan ng mg muslim na maging sa kanila ang Mindanao… 

    • isko daya

      and Mr. Bello is inciting them to proceed with it.

  • Anonymous

    Salamat naman at Hope pa lang ang ibinigay ni Pnoy, akala ko buong Mindanao na.
    Kaya sa susunod Pnoy magpapaalam ka kung saan ka pupunta baka mamaya ibenta o ibigay mo na ang Mindanao diyan sa MILF.
     

    • Anonymous

      mANGODING,,, KAY gma MO SABIHIN YAN!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TAUKBEGETQRNYFFOLMGSVEFCCI Noron Jamel

      Mango, si GMA nagbenta ng Pilipinas sa China, pwede ba know ur facts!!! Bakit kanino pala talaga Mindanao, di ba sa mga Bangsamoro? Know also ur history bago ka daldal MANGO!

      • Anonymous

        GMA nagbenta ng  Pilipinas sa China, ungas ka pala. Si Pnoy intsik, si Lacierda intsik si Ochoa intsik, halos cabinet member ni Pnoy intsik. Si GMA hindi nagbenta  sa china, si Pnoy nacolonize ang pinas ng intsik.
        Anong history ang dinadakdak mo. Magcite ka ng Mindanao history tunggak.

      • lucidlynx

        that’s rubbish. a lot of filipinos have chinese blood but that doesn’t mean they are chinese. blood lines don’t mean a thing. it is culture that matters. a chinese born and raised in the philippines is a filipino just like any other filipino. besides, if you STUDY harder, southeast asians have the same genotype with that of the chinese and scientific studies have theorized that migration paths were from southeast asia going upwards to the chinese mainland. they only look different because of the effects of the environment. you could say that the chinese have filipino blood. but filipinos have negrito blood which the chinese don’t.

        GMA indeed made deals with the Chinese government. she was pitting China against the US so that she can also get her way with the US.

      • Anonymous

        2nd paragraph is wrong! .

        GMA dealt with the chinese because they are willing to give more grease money to GMA and ilk. remember ZTN, northrail, and the selling of our rights over spratlys? kasama pa nga si JDV dito, di ba?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PBOZBBLRVEOTWHXEXOAXJR3Q3Y Dana

    The deal in Mindanao should include the indigenous people and the Christians too. They are all the people of Mindanao.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PBOZBBLRVEOTWHXEXOAXJR3Q3Y Dana

    The deal should include the indigenous tribes and the Christian too. They are all the people of Mindanao not the Muslims only. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TAUKBEGETQRNYFFOLMGSVEFCCI Noron Jamel

      Pwede pa Lumads Dana pero mga Christians, di pwede! Settlers lang naman mga Christians dito kaya nga sila ay mga Bisaya, Ilokano, Ilongo etc.etc. at di Maguinanaon, Maranaws, Tausogs, etc.etc. 

      • Anonymous

        settlers? ano akala mo, pag lutang ng mindanao e andiyan na kayo? para kang mga palestino a. alam mo ba na ibinenta ng mga datu niyo nung araw yung mga lupa diyan sa mga sinasabi mong mga settlers? yung mga kalahi mo ang pag diskitahan mo. and please be realistic. minority na lang kayo diyan. kaya lang kayo naka porma uli e dahil tinulungan niyo si GMA sa pagbaboy at pandaraya sa election. mahirap bang tanggapin at aminin yun?

  • Anonymous

    B4 we’re just dealing w/ MNLF, now here’s MILF, then BangsaMoro, then create na naman cla ng bagong institutions! The govt shld negotiate ONLY to ONE legitimate moro group. Perhaps we shld STOP negotiating!!! they keep mushrooming!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H27QVUBMP6KCZOXQW33RP2KOGU Plazans

    MILF: “President Aquino gave us hope”. I just pray to God PNoy did not give them the usual ‘false’ hope filipino politicians are notorious for.

  • Anonymous

    Hope for peace and eradication of graft and corruption in gevernment. good stuff! we can only hope this initative succeeds.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H27QVUBMP6KCZOXQW33RP2KOGU Plazans

    I can only wish PNoy is just as good in his anti-corruption campaign as he ought to be in the other areas of governance. Fighting domestic insurgency, putting more food on the table for tens of millions of filipinos, providing education to children, strategizing foreign investments, lifting up the country’s economy, etc,..are just as critical part of governing a country. Like Lacson, PNoy is very effective in running after corrupt officials, especially those of the past adminstration. Of course there’s nothing wrong with that, if the evidence can prove it, by all means put them all in jail. The only problem is, filipino politicians are so notorious in political vendetta more so than seeking the so-called justice and truth. It seems like PNoy and Lacson’s fondness for each other even got closer this year, as both are fully re-ergenized and hell-bent to get back at their common enemy, the Arroyos. There’s an old saying, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”.

    • Anonymous

      hi

      • Anonymous

        hello

  • Anonymous

    I hope they reciprocate the good intention of Pnoy.  The MILF should know that they will not win the war against the AFP and that it is beneficial to both sides to have peace.

  • isko daya

    May I ask Mr. Bello of the Akbayan what is in his mind in saying “Muslim Mindanao”. There is no such place or island, Mr. Bello – only MINDANAO. 

    You are raising an intrigue to distract non-Moros who are majority of the Mindanaoans. For your information, Mr. Bello, you may refer to the NSO data to verify and confirm your mistake.We want peace. Everybody in Mindanao wants peace. But unwittingly or wittingly calling the island where we live as “Muslim Mindanao” is irresponsible and a deceptive conflagrative insinuation that may muddle the effort.As a Congress member representing the Akbayan which has a relation with some militants, Mr. Bello can do the country great favor by starting to convince the NPA-NDF to stop their aggression and attacks and civilly consider peace for the nation. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=592794619 Ritche Awit

      I think Walden Bello & the rest of Akbayan are at odds with the CPP/NDF. Ideological differences they say. But yes, you have an important point there, Rep. Bello should be more circumspect or should clarify his statement. Probably what he meant by ‘Muslim Mindanao”are muslim-dominated areas but he should have made that clear.

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps the right attitude should be to look more and more away from the excuses for war, and focus more and more on the reasons for peace. I think the country deserves this kind of break.

  • Anonymous

    Indeed, PNoy is givng hope to all Filipinos. there is renewed hope for the Philippines. Godspeed PNoy.

  • Anonymous

    there is better way to settle the dispute. the government and the muslims in mindanao, will work together to claim Sabah from Malaysia. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W655725MF2JLO4B3R57GXXJBOI Vestre Vistal

    Lagman, you’re a loudmouthed dyed-in-the-wool arroyo cohort whose silence in the days of her spoiling the country is deafening, serve the country at least in the latter days of your life, work with those who have chosen the right path.  Just an unsolicited advice, he he he

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5STEU22AD7YRHQSB6RE56ZDSYA J

    Kasing gulo ng mga kable ng telepono at cable TV ang mga isip ng mga politiko. Isama mo na ang army na sa tagal na ng panahon ni hindi man lang mapaganda ang seguridad sa mga lugar na yan. Pera pera na lang.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5STEU22AD7YRHQSB6RE56ZDSYA J

    Binay wants to be next president.

  • Anonymous

    Wala kasing tunay na malasakit sa mamamayan at hangarin na magkaroon ng
    tunay na kapayapaan ang mga dating lider. nagtaka pa kayo na noong
    nakaraang administrasyon, ni hindi nakanti yang peace talks sa pagitan ng mga
    muslim.

  • Anonymous

    Magandang balita na muli ng nanunumbalik ang tiwala ng mga mamamayan –
    pati mga kalaban – ng bansa sa gobyerno. Patunay lang na nasa maayos na
    pamumuno, tapat na liderato ang pamahalaan.

  • Anonymous

    Talagang si PNoy lang ang lider ng bansa na may sincere na layuning
    maibalik ang kapayapaan at pagkakaunawaan sa bansa. at umabot nga ng 14 na taon
    na isang pangulo ang nangahas na pakinggan ang saloobin ng mga rebeldeng
    grupong ito.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002237174848 Mansur Leron

    The Philippines has the right to exist, as much as the Bangsa Moros. But until now, the GRP is a FASCIST State because, while it
    has emancipated itself from Spain, it has in turn violently colonized
    the Bangsa Moros. If a Filipino is truly patriotic and
    is willing to die for his own country, then, this same Filipino must be
    able to understand that the FREE PEOPLES of the Bangsa Moros feel the same way for our respective homelands.

  • Anonymous

    Masyado ng maraming
    panahon ang lumipas ng mabalot ng takot ang mga mamayang Pilipino sa muslim
    areas na yan sa Mindanao . – it’sgood
    to know that Aquino government is pursuing efforts to listen to these
    minorities’ concerns. Tuldukan na ang kaguluhan sa Mindanao !

  • Anonymous

     Rep. Lagman aka “Nega-man”, It doesn’t matter whether nor not the peace talks were secret as long as the results are positive and made public thereafter. While the nation is raising its hope for a genuine peace deal, let the rebels, bandits, and the rebel armies start laying down their arms. Only when this happen will real peace thrive in Mindanao.

  • Anonymous

    House Minority Leader Edcel Lagman ano rin ba ang “Sekreto” ninyo ng dating presindente Gloria Macapagal Arroyo noong panahon ng gobyerno niya.Bigyan ninyo naman ng pagkakataon ang bagong adminstration ng Pangulong Noynoy Aquino na magkaroon ng pagbabago at pakikitungo sa relasyon ng mga Moro na hindi nagawa ng nakalipas gobyerno.Sawa na ang mga pilipino sa kaguluhan bigyan po natin ng daan ang kapayapaan!

  • Anonymous

    It is high time that both Government and MILF give the people hope in return, and for the people, to give their country and leaders the same hope, and faith. 

  • Anonymous

    Salamat naman Hope pa lang ang ibinigay ni  Pnoy akala ko Mindanao na.
    Ang masasabi ko lang, baka naman umasa ng tuluyan itong mga MILF na ibigay sa kanila ni Pnoy ang Mindanao ay baka lalong  malintikan.

    Pero sa susunod Pnoy, magpapaalam ka ha kung saan ka pupunta hindi yan akala mo ay nag sneak out ka lang para sa date mo dahil delikado yan ginawa mo.
    Nakasalalay ang bansa sa balikat mo pati na ang sambayanang Pilipino e baka maassisinate ka sa Japan dahil kulang ka sa PSG guards, ang daming nakapalibot sa iyong MILF.
    Besides, National security of the country and your security is paramount important in dealing with rebel leaders.

  • http://twitter.com/SampalocKid sampalok kid

    Papaano naman ang Hacienda Luisita.

  • Anonymous

    Peace in mindanao is the greatest legacy this administration can leave to our mindano. If there is peace in mindanao, there would be progress. I hope our muslim brothers  share the same views.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

    Pagmasdan po sana natin ang mga pangyayari ng nakaraan na pinagmulan ng kasalukuyang sitwasyon ukol diyan sa mga kuro-kuro ng mga Muslim na ang kanilang karapatan na maging malaya ay hindi binibigyan ng pansin.

    Ang Pilipinas, bago pa man dumating ang mga Kastila ay binubuo ng mga magkakahiwalay na “kaharian” na pinamumunuan ng sultan or datu o rajah. May mga tribu galing sa iba’t ibang lugar – sa hilaga, sa timog, sa kanluran, timog kanluran, at pati na sa timog silangan. Sa katunayan, madalas na ring banggitin na ang lahi natin ay mula sa mga kapuluan na sinakop ng tinatawag na Austronesians. Kaya, bagama’t hindi pa isang pamahalaan ang mga archipelago ng Pilipinas, nagkakasundo ang mga magkakahiwalay na “kaharian” dahil din sa ugat o ninuno ng mga tribung ito. Ang wika o lenguaje ay nagkakatulad. Ganun din naman ang iisang pananampalataya. Naniniwala ang mga tao noon sa ating bansa sa iisang Diyos na tinatawag na Bathala. Impluwensya rin ito ng galing sa India katulad ng mga seremonya sa kasal at sa patay at sa iba pang bahagi ng naging kultura natin. Ang Islam ay huli na rin ang pagdating sa bansa at nanatili lamang niyakap ng iilang tribo sa parteng Mindanaw. Ngunit sa paglipas ng panahon, nagka-isa ang mga malalaking samahan ng tao sa Mindanaw na labanan ang Kristianismo at turuan sa pananampalataya sa Allah (o Diyos) sa pag-aaral ng Koran. Naging  simbolo ng may-pinagaralan ang mga taong sumasamba tulad ni Muhammad kay Allah. Kaya’t ang mga tribung humiwalay sa pananampalataya na ito ay nanatiliing naniniwala kay Bathala sa paraan na alam nila na itinuturo sa kanila ng mga sinaunanag tradisyon bago pa man dumating ang Islam. Lumakas din ang mga Muslim sa pagkakaibiganan nila sa mga taga-Malaysia at Indonesia na pawang Islam din ang kanilang pananampalataya.

    Nang masakop na nga ang ibang lugar sa Mindanaw ng mga Kastila tulad sa Zamboanga at Dabaw,nagkumpukumpulang ang mga Muslim sa iba’t ibang parte na ngayon ay itinuturing na kanila. Subalit ang katotohanan ay napadpad lamang sila sa mga lugar na yaon dahil sa digmaan labal sa Kastila at sa Amerikano at Hapones. Kasama sa mga napadpad ay ang mga tribong ayaw sumuko sa kapangyarihan ng mga mananakop.

    Dito natin makikita na ang mga Muslim sa Pilipinas ay tulad din ng mga Hudeo sa Israel na nawalan ng kapangyarihan pagdating ng mga mananakop na tagasunod kay Caesar, emperor sa Roma. Kung gusto talaga ng mga Muslim ng kapayapaan at pagrespeto sa sinasabi nilang karapatan, sumanib at pasakop sila sa iisang republika ng Pilipinas. Mayroon na nga sila na sariling rehiyon, ang ARMM, ano pa ba ang gusto nila? Buti pa nga sila meron ARMM. Ang mga napadpad sa kabundukan at malalayong kanayunan na tinatawag na Lumad o mga tribung walang sariling lupa, dapat din mabigyang ng sariling komunidad at munting pamahalaan tulad ng ARMM.

    Kaya, pinagtatakahan ko naman kung bakit inabot pa sa patayan ang pakikipaglaban ng mga Muslim sa pamamagitang ng MNLF at MILF.para lamang pansinin ng pamahalaan. Sanhi na ito ng pulitika. Bakit di na lamang itigil ang putukan at mamuhay na ang mga Muslim na tahimik tulad ng ibang Filipino naninirahan kahit saang kabayanan o lungsod? Ganito lang dapat magkasundo ang MILF at gobyerno. Ang dagdag na hihingin ng MILF ay amnestiya sa mga nakakulong ngayon. Kung iyon naman ay papayagan kapalit ng pangako na sila naman susunod sa mga batas ng Pilipinas, pwede na rin siguro matahimik lang ang illang parte sa Mindanaw na kinalalagyan ng mga MILF.

  • Anonymous

    Hindi maachieve ang Peace sa Mindanao kung hindi ibibigay sa ating Muslim brothers ang Mindanao.
    Yan ang  Peace.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2RI3LJVGNNED3XPMG7HVMIIO4 Herbert

      If you call this terrorist group your brothers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jose-Hernani-Parco/100000334088180 Jose Hernani Parco

    reminds me of that British Prime Minister coming back from Germany to see Hitler and waving a useless piece of paper proclaiming “peace in our time”!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GG4T5UNZ3P7SCHSRNJ7PF5JZMM Jimmy

    Hoy lagman ikaw ay rrepresentathieves lamang ng iyong nasasakupang probinsya. HINDI IKAW KINATAWAN NG BUONG PILIPINAS AT WALA KANG KARAPATANG MAG-UTOS KAY PNOY.
    Pumunta ka na lang sa Pampanga at baka sakaling kunin ka pa ni Gloria arroyo na tagahawak ng payong nya. Wala kang kakwenta kwentang Pilipino…!!!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XCVTR7UEL324INPXQGQV47V6HY Bewareiftheworldagreeswithyou

    “People are often unreasonable, irrational, and self-centered.Forgive them anyway.”If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives.Be kind anyway.”If you are successful, you will win some unfaithful friends and some genuine enemies.Succeed anyway.”If you are honest and sincere, people may deceive you.Be honest and sincere anyway.”What you spend years creating, others could destroy overnight.Create anyway.”If you find serenity and happiness, some may be jealous.Be happy anyway.”The good you do today, will often be forgotten.Do good anyway.”Give the best you have, and it will never be enough.Give your best anyway.”In the final analysis, it is between you and God. It was never between you and them anyway.” MOTHER TERESA

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jose-Jonathan/100000713453228 Jose Jonathan

    gving up the questt for an independent state is a relief enough, peace is secured. next best thing is to surrender all their guns that will surely complete it. hinde nmn cguro kelangan ng 12k na mandirigma para tawagin clang bangsamoro citizen UNLESS they really going after an independent state.

  • Anonymous

     Year
    1453 – Muslim conquered Turkey, and killed priest, nuns and
    bishops. They destroyed Christian heritage except Constantinople or Istanbul.

    Year
    1683   – Muslim attacked Austria but was expelled
    immediately by the help of the Polish soldiers.

    1700               
    no more invasion

    1800              
    no more invasion

    1900               
    no more invasion

    2001       -911 attack (TWIN TOWERS)   

    2002-…(?) – no more
    invasion, but there are more Muslims in England than practicing Anglicans the Protestant Christians of Queen Elizabeth as Head)
              -Europe is returning to paganism; Muslims takes advantage ? (Islamization of Europe ???)

  • Anonymous

    The Expansion of Islam…

    Year 1 –  Jesus was born.

    Year 33    – Jesus was crucified, died, and
    resurrected.

    Year 570   – Mohammed or Muhammad, the founder of
    Islam,    was born.

    Year 630  – Mohammed rose to power in Mecca.

    Year 633   – Muslim conquered Saudi Arabia.

    Year 634   – Muslim conquered “Palestinian” and Jerusalem,
    and killed priests, nuns,
    and bishops.

    Year
    634   – Muslim conquered Spain, and
    killed priests, nuns, and
    bishops. They destroyed
    Christian heritage. ( 8 centuries after back to Christians)

    Year
    639   – Muslim conquered  Iraq, and killed priests, nuns and
    bishops. Theydestroyed
    Christian heritage.

    Year
    642 – Muslim conquered  Egypt, and killed priests, nuns,
    and bishops. They destroyed
    Christian heritage.

    Year
    642  – Muslim conquered  Iran, and killed priests, nuns and
    bishops. They destroyed
    Christian heritage…..going to AFGHANISTAN, PAKISTAN,
    INDIA, west CHINA, BANGLADESH, BURMA,  south THAILAND, MALAYSIA, INDONESIA, south PHILIPPNES…

    Year
    698 – Muslim conquered  Tunisia; and killed priests, nuns,
    and bishops. They destroyed Christian heritage.

    Year
    732   – Muslim attacked France but was
    expelled immediately.

    Year
    827   – Muslim conquered Sicily
    (in Italy).  Year 1100-1200  Pope and Europe, with crusades, retook Sicily from Muslims.

    Year
    1398   – Muslim conquered Bosnia, and
    killed priests, nuns and bishops. They destroyed Christian heritage.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Fred-Mil/100002160424509 Fred Mil

    “He said the political opposition always looked for ways to put down an administration in order to win in the next elections.

    “Politics in the Philippines means after every election some
    politicians are immediately focused on the next elections, especially
    the opposition,” Jaafar said in a phone interview with Manila-based
    reporters.”

    Why then don’t Jafaar and the MILF be more proactive and take care of those who are out to derail the peace talks? For start they could take out Lagman… they will be doing the country a great favor.

  • Anonymous

    kung sino man ang mga bumoto kay lagman, i hope you’re throwing up right now with the monster you put in office. what a shithead.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z6U25GIY66GOY64DA3QY7OEB54 ricky

    Lagman, nde na ako magtataka kng bakit ganyan ang gusto mong mangyari kc un lovers na sinasabi mo na nag-tatago ng sikreto eh cna GMA at FFG un.

    Sbihin mo nman jan s mga amo mo na lumantad na at wag nang itago ang mga sikreto nila….after all naging presidente nman c GMA. “Secrets may be maintained between lovers, but there should be no secrets between the President and the Filipino people,” – Lagman said.

    • http://twitter.com/dwengonzaga edwin

      pagpasensiyahan nyo na na yan. matanda na yan na walang pinagkatandaan. dati believe ako dyan pero nung sumama kay gma ubos lahat ng paghanga ko. ang laki rin kc ng pakinabang nyan in terms of pera. pinagbili lahat ng kanyang prinsipyo. tingnan nyo tahimik lang pagdating sa usaping kinasasangkutan ng magasawang kurakot. ngayon wala na siyang madilihensiya kaya nagngangawa na.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brando-Pascual/100002132017262 Brando Pascual

    There’s nothing wrong with the demand of Rep. Lagman for the President to disclose everything that the latter had talked about with Mr. Murad. We have the right to know.  

  • Anonymous

    How can we get that lasting peace? We cant even keep the comment section of this article clean from bigotry.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V4IBUMZHFEMLEQJTOZN5UIJNR4 json8

      that’s called democracy.. like it or dont.

  • Anonymous

    What support is LAGMAN boasting of? Even without his and his equally minded allies` support or consent, the PRESIDENT`S peace deal with the MILF will push through. Lagman exercise caution when speaking for the filipino people. I, surely, am not with him in his opposition to PNoy`s initiatives so, he has no right to speak for me and for the majority of the people. 

  • Anonymous

    incensed by Leonen’s confused and tangled pronouncements about this
    so-called “out-of-the-box” move as he triumphantly announced to one and
    all that the “secret trip” was a success. pag favor lang lagi sa kanila.and not the whole mndanao.. id rather stay at war with the muslim rebels. at least i know am protected by the army and marines. pag autonomous government na -patay na tayo lahat. wala transparency yan. example lang si Ampatuan – san ang pondo ng ARMM? aber??

  • Anonymous

    Abigail Valte, said most people welcomed his unprecedented move to speed up the talks.
    “By far, we have seen that the reactions of our countrymen have been
    positive, especially among the stakeholders in Mindanao,” Valte said. – ?? really?? you speak for your self . taga mindanao kami dito.. di namin gusto yan.  ano eto ?? parte partehan??

  • Anonymous

    Lumad?? lol.. sino mag waste ng time sa kanila?? unless these people take up arms..then.. only will the government take notice..and sit at the round table to have a supposed secret discussion.

  • Roman Guerrero

    PNoy’s Tokyo initiative reciprocates the earlier intention of the MILF to drop their bid for an independent state in favor of a sub-state. Other than that, they are also asking for a “parity of esteem” after acquiring Filipino citizenship that grants them “parity of rights”. An “either”-“or” situation appears to be cropping up in the horizon of he Peace Process as it is impossible to give them (MILF) both. In asking for a sub-state, it would mean that they are for a sub-people, sub-territory, sub-government and sub-sovereignty – all the 4 elements of a state. Problem is that going for a “sub-people” would contradict the “parity of esteem” they are asking. Going for a sub-state would require an amendment in the Constitution which is not in the radar screen of the PNoy presidency which is set to step down in 2016. The more viable option then for the fast tracked peace agreement is for the MILF to forego their Bangsamor identity – an entity in the BJE – in favor of a Filipino identity made acceptable (halal) to Muslims. We happen to have that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jose-Jonathan/100000713453228 Jose Jonathan

    pnoy might rekindles all by himself a ground 4 kudeta. if that thing backfired since its only a political stability and peace process, but no talks of disarmaments. the AFP is not that stupid to see that anyone who doesnt drop its weapon have the intention go for separate state for years to come. why do it now 12k milf cnt match up 100k troops plus airforce and naval support. pnoy does not raise any question in tokyo just go there and nod his head.
    i just wanna cut his right hand where he used to touch the constitution when he swore on it. there is a looming war again if they cant disarm milf. ironlady did disarm ARMM. why pnoy cant disarm entire mindanao even if it will start another war.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brando-Pascual/100002132017262 Brando Pascual

    The MILF I guess is demanding for a federal system for the whole country, and the government will say yes.  But they want a Muslim federal region that have its own security forces which they call federal guards, which is not part of the AFP.  The present MILF members will become federal guards. If this is the case, it will not be acceptable to the AFP. Why? All the more that the MILF becomes stronger militarily and therefore there dream of seceding from the country can be carried out easier.         

  • Ronnie Rabino

    As long as we achieve a peaceful end to this MILF rebellion,  then we can declare to the world that indeed this administration is strong in their resolve to attain peace and progress.   A modern and progressive PH should not only be based on the capital region and major cities but for all parts of the country.    The areas in ARMM are proven to be rich in natural resources – gold, copper, nickel, etc.   Once we have peace and unlock these vast wealth in that region,  the whole country will improve economically.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OT3YUWWT2X6Z7VQZFMGEJEMV5A striptease

    Panahon para magkaroon ng tunay na kapayaan sa Mindanao. Marami na buhay nakitil.  Ikaw LANGGAM este LAGMAN :D  mahahimik kna GURANG ka!!! Tama lang si Pnoy dapat tuldukan na ang gulo at sama sama tayo sa matuwid na daan.

    • Anonymous

      Kapayapaan?   Baka nangangarap kayo ng tulog.
      Naghari ang Kastila, Sumunod ang Amerikano, Lumusob ang Hapon, ang ating mga kapatid na Muslim hindi nagpasailalim.
      Minartial Law ni Marcos, Ni ransack ni Erap wala rin.

      There will be no peace until Mindanaon will be a separate state of their own, then peace will be achieved.
      Parang Palestino yan gusto may sarili silang bansa. That is the comparison.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2RI3LJVGNNED3XPMG7HVMIIO4 Herbert

    To Mr. Aquino: I DON’T WANT THAT TERRORIST GROUP RUNNING SOME PART OF MY COUNTRY.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2RI3LJVGNNED3XPMG7HVMIIO4 Herbert

    So, magkakaroon na ng Sharia ek ek, at mababaliwala ang 1987 Philippine Constitution. Ganun ba mangyayari sa Mindanao?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JJVVWKKYLBDDANB57EEXYJIOFA reynaldo

    Mindanao belongs to the Moros. If only our government negotiators will keep this in mind prior to sitting down with the Moros in a Peace Negotiation, then a genuine Peace Treaty will be signed. We should not condemn the Moros for using violence in defending their land which was taken away from them by Christian land grabbers.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4FMDOZGPDZDM2M7GVQBBHEUDIA Jorrel

    This MILF folks really wanted Mindanao through killing/mutilating/torturing…; see the term violence for reference. Allowing them to have their own substate would literally say giving terrorists/drugs/… see the term evil for reference; an open gateway to the country. See how they govern in Maguindanao, Basilan, etc? This would also imply that if anyone used armed resistance against the government, they will be given what they want.

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