Suicide a complex phenomenon, say UP officials

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UP officials pointed out that suicide was a “complex phenomenon.”

Libertine Labor, director of UP Manila’s Office of Student Affairs, said Kristel Tejada, who took her life on March 15, had consulted with a counselor once in January.

The girl also regularly talked with her mentor, professor Andrea Martinez, during which financial woes were raised.

Without divulging the specifics, Labor said the student had mentioned family problems and some matters related to social dealings or relationships.

UP president Alfredo Pascual said suicide was a complicated matter and that if one were to base the incident on the series of events, it would be easy to say that Tejada took her own life because of her tuition woes.—Reports from Erika Sauler and Julie M. Aurelio

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  • http://www.facebook.com/noti.tots Noti Tots

    post hoc ergo propter hoc

    • http://twitter.com/gfarishta gibreel farishta

      pagkatapos nito, samakatuwid dahil dito

    • ApoNiLolo

      Let’s examine the events that leads to the suicide:
      1. Her father lost his job.
      2. Consequently, financial stress occurred.
      3. Resulting to family problems.
      4. And the inability to support the education of the 16 year old .
      5. Thus affecting the girl emotionally.
      Gather all these factors and surmise if that will not lead to this young soul to take her life. A lot took the same path on lesser reason.

      Now, tell me, does the logical fallacy (post hoc ergo procter hoc) still applies to her situation?

      • http://www.facebook.com/noti.tots Noti Tots

        you misread. comment refers to the singular event of her failing to enroll as being the cause for suicide. as the article points out, it is a complex issue and there could be a lot of triggers for it – not a singular trigger.

      • ApoNiLolo

        I “misread” or you posting a vague, obscure “phrase”. It goes either way. : )

  • Loggnat

    I read last week about a military doctor who was a psychiatrist who
    helped a lot of soldiers diffuse combat stress during the second war in
    Iraq. He later on worked to helped veterans deal with post traumatic
    syndrome (PTSD) while battling the illness himself. His battles with the
    illness and depression still resulted in losses and gains even with the
    help of his military doctor friends and the government who was with him
    all the way. He ultimately lost the battle last year when committed
    suicide and on the note he left says, ” I did not want to die, I just
    wanted the pain and helplessness to end.” My point is…. Here was this
    psychiatrist who was blessed with the talent of healing and helping
    people plus his understanding of the illness and affliction that
    destroys the lives of his fellow veterans, but was helpless to help
    himself. Could you imagine what pain and helplessness that all the
    stress in school and at home that this 16 year old was experiencing plus
    an added confusion and hopelessness from a depression illness that she
    must be suffering. How in good conscience can anybody blame her from
    wanting to just end it all, the confusion, hopelessness and pain. And I
    strongly feel that I do not have the right to blame her nor does
    anybody else who have no idea what she was going through and that is
    only my observation and opinion.

  • Dancing Bear

    It’s not unusual that UP tries to distance itself from the suicide. I would expect no less than a 200 page single spaced dissertation on how they have absolutely no iota of blame.

  • feargo

    so now the cover up begins. it may not have been the only thing that drove her to suicide, but it – the loan denial – was the tipping point. if pascual et al are not going to admit fault, then just shut up!

  • WeAry_Bat

    Admitting to 20% blame should be easier.

  • w33k3nd3r

    With a really f*cked up government like ours, who wouldn’t want to just die instead?

  • kilabot

    yeah, as complex as up officials.

  • calixto909

    OMG. To repaint their tarnished image. these UP officials laid to the doorstep of the victim the blame. It’s adding insult to injury. If only I have a super power like the heroes in the Marvel comic stories, then I would have flown this moment to grab them and hang them in the gallows fitting only for traitors.

  • kokak

    Red tape is a simple phenomenon that is too complex to solve.
    .

  • boybakal

    Suicide a complex phenomenon, say UP officials.

    You are wrong UP officials, whoever you are.
    Suicide is not complex much more not a phenomenon.
    Suicide is easily seen and detected if you only pay attention to your students in need.
    The problem is ….you are all not accessible to your students.
    As if you own the University funded by taxpayers money.

  • wawa2172

    I guess UP Manila is muddling the issue linking Kristel death to family and relationship problem. Focus on the issue, its UP socialized tuition fee scheme that sucked and how the university officials treated her. Huwag na nating pag takpan ang issue, the concern UP officials should resign from their post to start the reforms.

  • walang pakundangan

    Now you don’t know the reason of suicidal tendencies (complex kuno) It’s not actually complex the reason is that you don’t have a heart to give something to your fellowman that in reality is not even your own money, how much more so if you personally own the money that you will release or relinquish? Maybe she have had it (the act) earlier

  • Eddie AAA Calderon

    Very good email Loggnat. Sometimes some people think of suicide when they pain is too overpowering and they think that time that only death can end their misery. But there are those who have made the second thought and believing that there must be a better resolution in life than ending it. We should pray for those who appear to have lost faith and all hope in life than “behind the clouds, the sun still shines.” If your click on Cebu News in this newspaper you will read the courage of a mother who never gave up for the sake of her children. The story is entitled: A mother’s love knows no limits. I can’t attach here the website as it is prohibited from doing so.

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