‘Poor man!’ says new pope’s sister

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In this undated picture released by journalist Sergio Rubin, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, Archbishop of Buenos Aires, second from left in back row, poses for a picture with his family in an unknown location. Bergoglio, who took the name of Pope Francis, was elected on Wednesday, March 13, 2013, the 266th pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church. Top row from left to right, his brother Alberto Horacio, Bergoglio, his brother Oscar Adrian and his sister Marta Regina. Bottom row from left to right, his sister Maria Elena, his mother Regina Maria Sivori and his father Mario Jose Bergoglio. AP PHOTO/COURTESY OF SERGIO RUBIN

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina—For a man who has embraced humility, the new pope’s first moments in the spotlight must have come with mixed emotions, a fact perhaps best understood by the woman who has known him her whole life.

“Poor man,” sympathized Pope Francis’ sister, Maria Elena Bergoglio, his only still-living sibling, as she imagined his thoughts just before walking out on the balcony before the massive crowd in Saint Peter’s Square in his first appearance as the pontiff.

And yet, “how exciting, to hear the crowd changing, ‘Long live the pope!” she mused.

Maria Elena said she cried when she heard the news, and only wants “to give a hug” to her big brother, 11 years her senior.

Dressed austerely in a dark green sweater and with barely combed gray hair, she agreed to talk to dozens of reporters waiting outside her home in a middle class-neighborhood on the outskirts of Buenos Aires.

Maria Elena said she never expected her brother to be pope.

“My brother fulfilled his duties, with increasingly more responsibilities, but I never believed this,” she confessed.

She said she couldn’t predict what her brother will do as pope, but noted that “his inclination” has always been “to work for the poor, the most marginalized.”

She offered a prayer “that the Holy Spirit will strengthen” Francis for his new role, and spoke of feeling pride “not only as a family but as the Argentine people.”

Francis, formerly Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio, is the oldest of five children—three boys and two girls. His three other siblings, Alberto, Oscar, and Marta Regina, have already died.

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  • UrHONOR

    >>>“My brother fulfilled his duties, with increasingly more responsibilities, but I never believed this,” she confessed.<<<

    NEITHER do I. :)

    • im_earth

       at least 2/3 of votes on him :D

      • UrHONOR

        IRRELEVANT, IMPERTINENT, AND IMMATERIAL.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CYDG63W2MVGRU2YOI7HBD23EXQ Adrian

      ka cheapan ng comment mo.  wala ni sa katiting na kwenta yung sinabi mo? who are you to make such comments?

      • Marx Louis Wang

         and who are you to ask him about his comments?

      • UrHONOR

        HA ha ha…..anong kinagagalit ng butse mo?  Kung walang kwenta, e, di walang kwenta!   O ano ngayon….napalabas mo na mas magaling ka at may kwenta?  PSHAW!!!

        Heto parang tulong ko na sa kaisipan mong may saklay:  Ito ang paksa na dapat mong pagtu-unan ng pansin….HINDI ang kung sino-sino at kung ano-anong mga basura ang kinakalkal mo tapos magrereklamo kang MABAHO!

        >>>‘Poor man!’ says new pope’s sister<<<

        Capiche?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        kanto boy…brainless comment! what’s your argument?

      • UrHONOR

        SUMASABAT ka sa usapang HINDI ka KASALI….HINDI ako nakikipag-usap sa isang SIRANG ULO.

  • rgf_md

    Long live the Pope!!!! WE are expecting at least 10 years of Papacy with Francis I by the way he looks like actor Andy Garcia (The Untouchables) when he was young.

    • i_am_filipino

      GAY COMMENTS LOL

  • marionics

    poor man…nuff said he he

  • justyouraveragechinoy

    And yet, “how exciting, to hear the crowd changing, ‘Long live the pope!” she mused.

    changing or chanting??? 
    proofread?

  • $18209031

    This is the style of Romani  Katolik to draw more converts everytime they make all these pageantry and pomp in selecting a pope. This is BS !  This religion is based on falsehood and deceit. Its worth billions and billions of dollars and its never been poor by any sense of the word.

    So why is this Pope trying to be as cheapskate as he wants to portray ? He is a Jesuit , a master intelligencia of the RCC. He is trained to be one. He is no longer poor now. This is all for publicity stunt. THe International Medias are now hyping him like he is the new saint of some sort. What a sudden turn of tone .And its taking a life of its own as expected in less than 24 hrs.

    HE is just a man like anyone. WHy are you people trying to make him a saint ? Dios ko po.
    This is to distract the real truth of the RCC. It has harbored perverts in its bossom. Now is the time to divulge all the facts and not hide them. THe reason why the previous pope resigned bec he was fed up with the reports of perverts, molesters and many sinful problems of the RCC. He want s to retire and not deal with these reports .

    • mnlmad

       You are so full of hatred.I wonder what religion you belong to. Or maybe you just don’t believe in God?

      • Bugtong Uyamot

        church of the holy hole siguro hahaha…

      • mnlmad

        No wonder. Tsk,tsk,tsk….

    • Godzilla

      hehehe loser ka lng. wala kasi sumasapi sa religion mo kung may religion ka man. since walang naniniwala syo ngaun…. mag amplaya ka na lng muna and learn to deal with it till the end of your life.

    • OleSapra aka ARGUS

       Pagano ka, sigurado ako. Supot ka kung ganon, ‘di ba , Uten?

    • Fancy Tan

      Daku ka dito sa lupa at abo ka naman sa kaharian ni lucifer.

    • peach black

      sa iyo ako naba-bother. you make it sound as though Roman Catholicism is still relevant to waste your time with. Matagal na silang obsolete. Along with the song-and-dance of the Burn Against and all believers in talking snakes.

      • Filipino_Papist

        I’m bothered with you. You make it sound as if you live in our universe. Obsolete? Really? How come a large number of people of the world keep watching the chimney for smoke through their eyes or through television?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/Q3K4D7DHINOHU7E2JBPXY3JLZQ Josh

       demonyo ka! sa pangalan mo palang “dakuakongutin” bastos ka na, wala kang pnag-arala. why dont you enrol to the catholic school, sothat they can teach you some manners. idiot!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/Q3K4D7DHINOHU7E2JBPXY3JLZQ Josh

       this is a matter of insecurity!  aaply ka ng trabaho or passport etc, tapos hihingan ka ng baptimas cetrificate, ano ngayon gagawin mo, e di magpapabinyag ka sa katoliko??? HAHAHAHAHAHA, eenroll ang anak mo sa UST, ateneo, la salle, miriam hahanapan kA ng baptismal certificate.. e di sa katoliko ka din pupunta HAHAHAHAHAHA.

    • Dancing Bear

      And I await your verification that the Da Vinci code rings true.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

    Let’s pray for all the hate bloggers here.

    • UrHONOR

      RATHER for the narrow of mind and those shackled to heavy and immovable chains of Anachronism.

  • victor casquejo

    I agree with daku regarding the inveteracy of falsehood in this religion..This is a religion that chooses to remain pagan..Read the scripture everybody,instead of relying your salvation to men..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/276L22SZM5ZUQGV24IL4ZEF6UA Edward

      indeed, little learning is a very dangerous thing…

  • Godzilla

    sino bang hindi nagbabasa ng scripture? eh ang protestant nga kung may ilang denominations na pero lahat sila they were saying they have the true teaching. si Manalo, nagkulong lng sa kwarto ng ilang araw kababasa ng scripture pag labas tinawag daw sya para magsimula ng bagong relihiyon…. ikaw…. anong scripture ba binabasa mo at anong relihiyon o sekta ang itatayo mo? make it sure na kapani paniwala ha at hindi parang bulaang propeta lang ang dating…. :)

    • Fulpol

      ang binasa ni Manalo ay ang mga libro ni Charles Taze Rusell at ang The Communist Manifesto na regalo sa kanya ng mga Freemasons…

      LOL… 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        hahaha…yun din ata na basa ni crazyhorse at Team Taning and Team Heretic!

  • Godzilla

    may tiwala ako sa pinaniniwalaan ako at handa ko panindigan ito hanggang kamatayan ko na katolisismo ang may tagapagturo at sisidlan ng aral ng Diyos para sa kaligtasan ng tao. Kung kontra ka dun….wala ka na pakialam… dahil di ka kasama pa oras ng paghuhusga sa akin.

  • geminimind

    I am also a man just like any other man but we differ from each other in God and God’s glory.
    Jesus was a son of man just like any other man but there was a great purpose that differs from any other man.
    Jesus became God as God wants him to be as He is.

    • Puyay

       Just a correction for your own good. God, Jesus and Holy Ghost are one, Christians called it “Trinity”. Please read this following scriptures and you will be blessed; 1 John 5:7, John 1:1-12, John 10:29-30(King James Bible versions)

      • geminimind

        God the father,the Son and The Holy spirit are one(TRINITY)
        Please see the chart of you own self.
        You need not to correct me ’cause there is nothing wrong to what I’ved said.
        This is for your own good,the Holy Trinity is you when you become God.

      • GKLer

        (Satan lies to Adam and Eve)
        Genesis 3
        4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and YOU WILL BE LIKE GOD, knowing good and evil.”

      • GKLer

        Since you quoted from John, note what Jesus himself said

        John 20 (KJV)
        17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

  • Fulpol

    the elitist Catholics in the Philippines are raising their eyebrows…

    the rich Catholics in the Philippines should want somebody to represent them like elitist who graduated from Ateneo de Manila…

    poor Pilipino Catholics… 

    • Matt Artagham

      this was a nice read until I got to your comment.  Strange.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/JKS7Y3WBUOJPOMTYPCRXSKW7KM Franzeline Perdubal

      WTFFULPOL?

      Thousand negative comments on the internet and you’re rolling. You’re living in a negative world, brother.

      Galit ka ba sa mundo?

      • Crazy_horse101010

        i guess people get that way after the church killed millions who dare oppose them including some of my ancestors who died because the church wanted their property in germany they were burned

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/JKS7Y3WBUOJPOMTYPCRXSKW7KM Franzeline Perdubal

        The church killed? I now believe why you call yourself crazy_horse.

        Wasnt the Nazis from Germany who killed Millions? Read again.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M6UL2UG4OGTMCLSYGB5MVJ7USE InSearchOfTruth

        are you saying the inquisition and the crusades never happened? are you saying that there is no book called malleus maleficarum that was once santioned as the rule book on how to properly torture a person into admiting whatever he/she was accused of?

        yeah, read again

      • taga_ilog

        the church’s history is written in blood from it’s very start. take a look at the crusades for starters. and our very own history of course.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        this happen long before the nazis ever existed read your history they even admitted it 15 million indians died in mexico and west indies according to church history you calling me a liar.you ever heard of auto-da-fe the last person was burned in mexico in 1850. every country in europe suffered. the church admitted they made mistakes in burning innocent catholics  who were tortured but they were privileged for being allowed to die for their faith because they would be admitted straight to paradise so they had nothing to complain about

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Heretics went to hell! Modern day heretics have the same faith too!

        You been doomed!

        (Isaiah 1:19-20) 19 “If you consent and obey,

        You will eat the best of the land;

        20“But if you refuse and rebel,

        You will be devoured by the sword.”

        Truly, the mouth of the LORD has spoken.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        your so boring i could care less what you think becausw everyone knows your doomed

      • The Halester

        Except physics – oh yeah. No such thing as Hell. Or “the LORD”. Fiction, pure and simple.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        dont call me names and insult me good catholic. everyone in the world knows abut the inquisition except maybe you. urban the 11 was the one who started the jews wearing different clothes which led to the star of david. and jews were put in ghettos hundreds of years before hitler it was just easier for them to be rounded up. between 50 to 100 million people were killed in europe. 50 million indians were killed by murder and enslavement.dont tell me about my ancestors i know more than you ever will.  read history before you open your mouth

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/JKS7Y3WBUOJPOMTYPCRXSKW7KM Franzeline Perdubal

        People kill people. Now, if you want to point fingers, then go ahead. Iam not wasting my time arguing about religion here.

        If you think Catholics are bad people then avoid them.

        If priests hurt you, file a case.

        If this church killed somebody, charge them with murder.

        And here you are,a simpleton behind a keyboard trying to speak big with nothing.

      • The Halester

        They do not naturally kill one another, without motivation in the form of doctrine shoved down their throats. You are the complete simpleton and appear to know literally nothing.

      • Jarred Pulido

        crazy horse is a name of a native American hero and I think crazy_horse is one. Just so you know so you won’t look like an uninformed poster in this forum.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        hahaha…may tama ka rin pala!

      • Crazy_horse101010

        wonder what your scalp looks like

      • Crazy_horse101010

        close i lived among them and know how to count coup and take scalps to put on my lodge pole. a couple i would like to take now. he was a hero though because he killed custer at the little bighorn well said you know your history

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/JKS7Y3WBUOJPOMTYPCRXSKW7KM Franzeline Perdubal

        Hahaha. You sound like that native American boy named “broken rubber.” Now, figure it out.

      • The Halester

        Jesus Christ. And I say that most sacreligiously. Christians started murdering in the name of their God in the FOURTH CENTURY. Educate yourself on the crusades, the colonization of the Americas/South Americas/Africa, the witch-huntings, a little thing called the SPANISH INQUISITION? It’s STILL HAPPENING in modern Africa. Your ignorance sickens me.

      • The Halester

        And also, the church maintained a position of neutrality during WW2, instead of living their supposed promise to love thy neighbour. Loving their Jewish neighbours didn’t protect millions from slaughter. Your opinions are disgusting.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        hahaha…lolo nya si martin luther! team taning! team heretic!

      • nakawan

        That’s coz Fulpol is the guy who pumps out septic tanks for a living. He literally lives in a world of S H I T

  • virgoyap

    He chose the name “Francis” a famous Saint from Assisi also noted as “Il Porvillo” because of his passion for the poor. I have many things to expect from Pope Francis with regards to his service for the poor and all the marginalized.

  • elpobre

    You make him leader and called him Father? Jesus said: Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One. Neither be called‘leaders,’ for your Leader is one, the Christ.” (Matthew 23:1, 8-10) 

    You must seek an organization of God on earth who made Jesus only their leader. Pray for it.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/JKS7Y3WBUOJPOMTYPCRXSKW7KM Franzeline Perdubal

      How do we call them then?

      If your belief is different from others, respect them. If your Bible is printed the other way, so be it. As long as they dont hurt you in any way, let them be. That will make you a better Christian.

      • elpobre

        Are you telling me that my statement is my own idea? Read your bible then, and explain to me what the Matthew 23:1, 8-10 is all about.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/JKS7Y3WBUOJPOMTYPCRXSKW7KM Franzeline Perdubal

        What makes you a better person than others? IS it because you read your Bible more than them?

        Never debate on the Bible. Instead show the other person how you live the Bible.

      • elpobre

        True Christians must be humble, im not telling you that i am better person than any others, what i am telling you is what the bible says about the leadership of the Church or the Congregation, if you feel that i am using bible to disrespect with regards to you and your Church, oh im sorry. But we must also respect Jesus as our only leader.

      • elpobre

        You support the prominency of individuals in your organization. But the true christian did not. For example, did Peter accept special treatment from his fellow believers? No. He refused to allow any special expressions of reverence to be bestowed on him. (Acts 10:25, 26) What about Jesus? He said that he came to serve others, not to be served. (Matthew 20:28) By contrast, what record do the popes have? Do they shun prominence, refuse grand titles, and avoid ostentatious displays of wealth and power?

      • Crazy_horse101010

        why dont respect other peoples religions ive faced every kind of insult and threat from good catholics. why cant we get divorced if we want . catholics in protestant countries still get to exercise their form of divorce but we cant here why do we have to play by your rules. if i want a divorce and living in a loveless marriage you are hurting me.and i believe im as good a christian as anyone here. i have been threatened to have my head cut off.how can we respect yours when you dont respect us. especially from the fanatic above who i answered who hounded me everywhere i went

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/JKS7Y3WBUOJPOMTYPCRXSKW7KM Franzeline Perdubal

        Wow, looks like you went through a lot of persecution, my dear.

        Arguing about religion is like sipping from the same cup of coffee and be afraid of getting contaminated. 

        Did I disrespect elpobre? Wasnt he the guy who points fingers? I was stating a status quo on any of this stuff. RESPECT is earned when you give it.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        yeah right

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      who told you that you ll base all your beliefs in the bible? can you find it stated there? Sola Scriptura? Alam mo ba san galing yun theory na yan? Where can you find in the bible saying scriptures alone? Baka dinugtungan ni Martin Luther yan at naging “scripture alone”.

      Check mo bible kulang din yan…d ba sabi ko…your old testament lacks the 7 books. They were removed by Damasong Luther! Coz they conflict his teachings and private interpretations of the bible!

      • GKLer

        Mark 7 (Jesus speaks)
        5 So the Pharisees and teachers of the law asked Jesus, “Why don’t your disciples live according to the tradition of the elders instead of eating their food with defiled hands?”
        6 He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written:
        “‘These people honor me with their lips,
        but their hearts are far from me.
        7 They worship me in vain;
        their teachings are merely human rules.’
        8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”
        9 And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions!

  • $18209031

    Why  does a pope choose a name not his name just to be seen like a saint? B S!!   This is the ways of deceit and not of God. This is to deceive the naive and stupid !!! This is the ways of darkness !!  The Prince of Darkness comes in different forms, wake up you Katoliks !!

    • Romance Soldier

      kasi nga gusto niya ipakita sa buong mundo humble siya.

  • marionics

    absent pa si flip aka topak a. mamaya pa yata ang time in niya hahaha

  • tilamsik

    Filipino culture showing in the comments… generally a classless race now

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BL2GYU35SO6HTJUEAUTXS3QFYM George Lapulapu

      ..agree…..classless self righteous pa kamo…and add to that , Filipinos are racist… er Filipino bloggers here..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

    To all the anti-Catholics and doubters that the Catholic Church is a sham:
    Today’s first reading (March 15, 2013) in the liturgical calendar of the Catholics, you will find the scriptures that refer to your attitudes. Please read with unbiased thoughts and ask the Holy Spirit of God to enlighten you. Perhaps, you would stop your evil desires to put down the Church headed by Christ Jesus who had appointed a human leader who is to be the servant of all servants. The pope’s position in the Church is not a place for comfort or convenience. The pope has this gargantuan task to convey the message of God who is alive and present in our lives even to those who are not members of the Catholic Church. God aims to reach out to His people through His Church. But, like the doubting Jews in Christ Jesus’ lifetime on earth, there are still some people like them TODAY who lay traps to ensnare the One sent by the Father in heaven hoping to prove that life on earth is miserable and there is no truth about salvation. 
    ============================================================
    Wisdom 2: 1, 12 – 22
    1 For they reasoned unsoundly, saying to themselves, “Short and sorrowful is our life, and there is no remedy when a man comes to his end, and no one has been known to return from Hades.
    12 “Let us lie in wait for the righteous man, because he is inconvenient to us and opposes our actions; he reproaches us for sins against the law, and accuses us of sins against our training.
    13 He professes to have knowledge of God, and calls himself a child of the Lord.
    14 He became to us a reproof of our thoughts;
    15 the very sight of him is a burden to us, because his manner of life is unlike that of others, and his ways are strange.
    16 We are considered by him as something base, and he avoids our ways as unclean; he calls the last end of the righteous happy, and boasts that God is his father.
    17 Let us see if his words are true, and let us test what will happen at the end of his life;
    18 for if the righteous man is God’s son, he will help him, and will deliver him from the hand of his adversaries.
    19 Let us test him with insult and torture, that we may find out how gentle he is, and make trial of his forbearance.
    20 Let us condemn him to a shameful death, for, according to what he says, he will be protected.”
    21 Thus they reasoned, but they were led astray, for their wickedness blinded them,
    22 and they did not know the secret purposes of God, nor hope for the wages of holiness, nor discern the prize for blameless souls;
    ===============================================================
    In less than two weeks will be the start of the Holy Week. There is still time to repent and be sorry for our sins and the wrong doings that we do to keep us away from our own salvation. I urge all of our readers in this forum to reflect on the aforementioned scripture passage from the Book of Wisdom. How prophetic these verses are written before the coming of the Messiah! Until today, the Word of God speaks to us, not only in print from the Bible but also in flesh and blood with Christ Jesus’ presence in our lives through His Holy Sacrifice on the Cross and Resurrection and through the people He chooses to do His will. I firmly believe that the pope is the main person that our Lord God speaks so that His Holy Will will be done on earth for the salvation of mankind. There are also other holy men and women who draw wisdom from Christ Jesus. Each one of us can receive that gift if we want to in complete trust and obedience to Him who is the source of all blessings and grace.

    • Crazy_horse101010

      not sham scam  and i dont read fiction

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

        You really love me, don’t you? Sham, scam, scumbag – pretty much sounds the same. 

      • Crazy_horse101010

        still want to insult my wife scumbag dont worry i have no love for you and your kind

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

        Insult your wife? Again,
        you are showing impertinence and irrelevance in your comments. I told you
        before that if you lose temper so easily or you are onion-skinned, don’t join
        in any fray in the forums here in this paper for your own good and your health.

        I won’t be wasting my
        time to set the facts straight if I don’t want you to be level-headed. I only
        wish that you become more subjective with the comments that do not conform to
        yours.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

        sorry, i should have said “more objective” not more subjective….nakakahawa talaga itong sobrang praning.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        go ahead keep up your story i have it written down. i put up with your insults and name calling from the start and i lived with it. because i knew your were just another fanatic but when you brought other issues into it that wasnt any of your business i will fight back. and dont ever tell not to join in forums you are the only one who slandered her. i never bring up peoples families unlike you.. your clone up above i think he is funny so i comment on him but you are just mean spirited. so stop me bring it on and dont worry about my health ive never felt better

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

        hopeless case…sheeessh.

      • Crazy_horse101010

        pitiful

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        insulting his wife? may tama na to!

      • Crazy_horse101010

        who asked you your just like him except funnier

      • Jarred Pulido

        Don’t worry. I saw the post of this catholic taliban, the one you mentioned. nakalimutan lang ata or sinungaling or maybe both

      • Crazy_horse101010

        nice guy isnt he and he preaches to everyone else take care

    • Romance Soldier

      alam mo mang teban, this world is created from good…kaya kahit anong pagkakamali gawin sa good parin ang balik at walang Hades kasi pati ang Hades created good. Kaya lahat ligtas kapag namatay dahil lahat created good will go back to good. Kaya kung pwede lang manahimik ka nalang.

      • boldyak

        if i kill you with with my good intentions, i will be saved, you said so isn’t it?

    • The Halester

      You can also match up Nostradamus’ writings to apply to dates as well. This could also apply to us Atheists on ANY day. Hardly a link between them, your claim is purely ridiculous.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

        If you dislike the Bible, then the quoted scriptures will not mean anything to you at all. But, you bothered to reply only to put Nostradamus into the discussion whose writings do not come close to matters of faith at all. Thus, I can understand your behavior. As an atheist as you said you are, why should I even expect you to read and accept the Word of God? But as a non-atheist, I know that we were all created by a Supreme Being who made humans in the image and likeness of Him, the Creator. But, again, that may be hard for you to grasp…I just want to say it in case you want to open up your mind and heart a little bit, perhaps? We are nothing without God. You cannot be you by some chain reaction of substances or elements in the atmosphere. For even if a person can be created by human hands, the soul inside your body is what makes you different from the other creatures created by the Creator. This is the point in the scripture reading in the Book of Wisdom. Some men think that there is no life after life and everything about God is a lie. Without your soul, you would simply perish upon your death. God gave us a soul to live after we die – a phenomenon that science cannot explain. YET, even atheists have souls…you probably did not know why it is there…and you can go on denying every facet of our spiritual link with God…..that is your choice. I have said what is essentially basic understanding of the purpose why we exist. Goodbye,

  • i_am_filipino

    Why they change name? No idea coz im a Jew. But here is the question, why Abraham’s name in an old testament changed? Why catholic changed God’s name. From Hesus, Jesus? As written in the scripture, “For I am a jealous God” ” Call me on my N A M E and you will be saved” Now, do we need to translate name to other language say if I will live in USA, can I change my name so that people know its me or perhaps if you call me in other name, would I respond to you? I believe that each original name in Hebrew has a big meaning and if that changed, then, it is an insult. The letter J was only adopted recently but never exist in the original Holy Scripture. did we change it because we cant pronounce the name due to missing owels as in a,e,i,o,u? Your parents gave your name because it is so valuable and has connection to either your parents, grandparents and perhaps God. Most prophet has either prefix or suffix in their name the syllable “YAH” or “EL” as in MichaEL, GabriEL, EzekiEL, DaniEL, JeremiYAH, IsaYAH or ISAIAH in english, YAHWEH, etc and even the last whisper of your Jesus to his Father, ELI, ELI (notice that the word EL is connected), LAMA SABACTANI ( sorry for the spelling as im not good in Hebrew), in other translation, ELi, ELi, why have you forsaken me? Or My father, my father ( note that word was changed to pronoun instead of the actual name), why have you forsaken me. NOW, IF YOU ARE A CATHOLIC AND DONT ENJOY YOUR RELIGION BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO IDIOT OR IGNORANT, THEN WHY ASK A QUESTION WHY POPE’s NAME CHANGED? DID YOU JUST SIT DOWN IN YOUR OWN CHURCH AND SLEEP EVERYTIME THE PRIEST PREACH. MY WORD OF ADVISE, ENJOY YOUR BELIEF AND ENJOY HAVING A GOOD LEADER AS POPE FRANCIS.

    • elpobre

      Superstition
      Superstition hides the name God. At some point a superstitious idea arose among the Jews that it was wrong even to pronounce the divine name (represented by the Tetragrammaton). Just what basis was originally assigned for discontinuing the use of the name is not definitely known. Some hold that the name was viewed as being too sacred for imperfect lips to speak. Yet the Hebrew Scriptures themselves give no evidence that any of God’s true servants ever felt any hesitancy about pronouncing his name. Non-Biblical Hebrew documents, such as the so-called Lachish Letters, show the name was used in regular correspondence in Palestine during the latter part of the seventh century B.C.E.
      Another view is that the intent was to keep non-Jewish peoples from knowing the name and possibly misusing it. However, Jehovah himself said that he would ‘have his name declared in all the earth’ (Ex 9:16; compare 1Ch 16:23, 24; Ps 113:3; Mal 1:11, 14), to be known even by his adversaries. (Isa 64:2) The name was in fact known and used by pagan nations both in pre-Common Era times and in the early centuries of the Common Era. (The Jewish Encyclopedia, 1976, Vol. XII, p. 119) Another claim is that the purpose was to protect the name from use in magical rites. If so, this was poor reasoning, as it is obvious that the more mysterious the name became through disuse the more it would suit the purposes of practicers of magic.
      When did the superstition take hold? Just as the reason or reasons originally advanced for discontinuing the use of the divine name are uncertain, so, too, there is much uncertainty as to when this superstitious view really took hold. Some claim that it began following the Babylonian exile (607-537 B.C.E.). This theory, however, is based on a supposed reduction in the use of the name by the later writers of the Hebrew Scriptures, a view that does not hold up under examination. Malachi, for example, was evidently one of the last books of the Hebrew Scriptures written (in the latter half of the fifth century B.C.E.), and it gives great prominence to the divine name.
      Many reference works have suggested that the name ceased to be used by about 300 B.C.E. Evidence for this date supposedly was found in the absence of the Tetragrammaton (or a transliteration of it) in the Greek Septuagint translation of the Hebrew Scriptures, begun about 280 B.C.E. It is true that the most complete manuscript copies of the Septuagint now known do consistently follow the practice of substituting the Greek words Ky′ri·os (Lord) or The·os′ (God) for the Tetragrammaton. But these major manuscripts date back only as far as the fourth and fifth centuries C.E. More ancient copies, though in fragmentary form, have been discovered that prove that the earliest copies of the Septuagint did contain the divine name.
      One of these is the fragmentary remains of a papyrus roll of a portion of Deuteronomy, listed as P. Fouad Inventory No. 266. (PICTURE, Vol. 1, p. 326) It regularly presents the Tetragrammaton, written in square Hebrew characters, in each case of its appearance in the Hebrew text being translated. This papyrus is dated by scholars as being from the first century B.C.E., and thus it was written four or five centuries earlier than the manuscripts mentioned previously.—See NW appendix, pp. 1562-1564.
      When did the Jews in general actually stop pronouncing the personal name of God?
      So, at least in written form, there is no sound evidence of any disappearance or disuse of the divine name in the B.C.E. period. In the first century C.E., there first appears some evidence of a superstitious attitude toward the name. Josephus, a Jewish historian from a priestly family, when recounting God’s revelation to Moses at the site of the burning bush, says: “Then God revealed to him His name, which ere then had not come to men’s ears, and of which I am forbidden to speak.” (Jewish Antiquities, II, 276 [xii, 4]) Josephus’ statement, however, besides being inaccurate as to knowledge of the divine name prior to Moses, is vague and does not clearly reveal just what the general attitude current in the first century was as to pronouncing or using the divine name.
      The Jewish Mishnah, a collection of rabbinic teachings and traditions, is somewhat more explicit. Its compilation is credited to a rabbi known as Judah the Prince, who lived in the second and third centuries C.E. Some of the Mishnaic material clearly relates to circumstances prior to the destruction of Jerusalem and its temple in 70 C.E. Of the Mishnah, however, one scholar says: “It is a matter of extreme difficulty to decide what historical value we should attach to any tradition recorded in the Mishnah. The lapse of time which may have served to obscure or distort memories of times so different; the political upheavals, changes, and confusions brought about by two rebellions and two Roman conquests; the standards esteemed by the Pharisean party (whose opinions the Mishnah records) which were not those of the Sadducean party . . .—these are factors which need to be given due weight in estimating the character of the Mishnah’s statements. Moreover there is much in the contents of the Mishnah that moves in an atmosphere of academic discussion pursued for its own sake, with (so it would appear) little pretence at recording historical usage.” (The Mishnah, translated by H. Danby, London, 1954, pp. xiv, xv) Some of the Mishnaic traditions concerning the pronouncing of the divine name are as follows:
      In connection with the annual Day of Atonement, Danby’s translation of the Mishnah states: “And when the priests and the people which stood in the Temple Court heard the Expressed Name come forth from the mouth of the High Priest, they used to kneel and bow themselves and fall down on their faces and say, ‘Blessed be the name of the glory of his kingdom for ever and ever!’” (Yoma 6:2) Of the daily priestly blessings, Sotah 7:6 says: “In the Temple they pronounced the Name as it was written, but in the provinces by a substituted word.” Sanhedrin 7:5 states that a blasphemer was not guilty ‘unless he pronounced the Name,’ and that in a trial involving a charge of blasphemy a substitute name was used until all the evidence had been heard; then the chief witness was asked privately to ‘say expressly what he had heard,’ presumably employing the divine name. Sanhedrin 10:1, in listing those “that have no share in the world to come,” states: “Abba Saul says: Also he that pronounces the Name with its proper letters.” Yet, despite these negative views, one also finds in the first section of the Mishnah the positive injunction that “a man should salute his fellow with [the use of] the Name [of God],” the example of Boaz (Ru 2:4) then being cited.—Berakhot 9:5.
      Taken for what they are worth, these traditional views may reveal a superstitious tendency to avoid using the divine name sometime before Jerusalem’s temple was destroyed in 70 C.E. Even then, it is primarily the priests who are explicitly said to have used a substitute name in place of the divine name, and that only in the provinces. Additionally the historical value of the Mishnaic traditions is questionable, as we have seen.
      There is, therefore, no genuine basis for assigning any time earlier than the first and second centuries C.E. for the development of the superstitious view calling for discontinuance of the use of the divine name. The time did come, however, when in reading the Hebrew Scriptures in the original language, the Jewish reader substituted either ʼAdho·nai′ (Sovereign Lord) or ʼElo·him′ (God) rather than pronounce the divine name represented by the Tetragrammaton. This is seen from the fact that when vowel pointing came into use in the second half of the first millennium C.E., the Jewish copyists inserted the vowel points for either ʼAdho·nai′ or ʼElo·him′ into the Tetragrammaton, evidently to warn the reader to say those words in place of pronouncing the divine name. If using the Greek Septuagint translation of the Hebrew Scriptures in later copies, the reader, of course, found the Tetragrammaton completely replaced by Ky′ri·os and The·os′.—See LORD.
      Translations into other languages, such as the Latin Vulgate, followed the example of these later copies of the Greek Septuagint. The Catholic Douay Version (of 1609-1610) in English, based on the Latin Vulgate, therefore does not contain the divine name, while the King James Version (1611) uses LORD or GOD (in capital and small capitals) to represent the Tetragrammaton in the Hebrew Scriptures, except in four cases.

      • i_am_filipino

        I may not call it superstitious but I respect the author of the above which you did not mention. That was the reason why reformed jewish formulated. GOD SPEAK IN HEBREW, and even said I am the Alpha and Omega. also, He himself said, CALL ME IN MY NAME AND YOU WILL BE SAVED. this eliminated the superstitious belief

      • elpobre

        Did you believe that God of Abraham is not god only of Israelites, but God of all nations?

      • i_am_filipino

        I am not allowed to answer that. I do respect your religion and i can tell you are not a scholar from the way you ask a question

      • elpobre

        God of Abraham is not a tribal god.
        Yahweh/Jehovah is called “the God of Israel” and ‘the God of their forefathers.’ (1Ch 17:24; Ex 3:16) Yet this intimate association with the Hebrews and with the Israelite nation gives no reason for limiting the name to that of a tribal god, as some have done. The Christian apostle Paul wrote: “Is he the God of the Jews only? Is he not also of people of the nations? Yes, of people of the nations also.” (Ro 3:29) Yahweh/Jehovah is not only “the God of the whole earth” (Isa
        54:5) but also the God of the universe, “the Maker of heaven and earth.” (Ps 124:8) Jehovah’s covenant with Abraham, nearly 2,000 years earlier than Paul’s day, had promised blessings for people of all nations, showing God’s interest in all mankind.—Ge 12:1-3;
        compare Ac 10:34, 35;11:18. Yahweh/Jehovah God eventually rejected the unfaithful nation of fleshly Israel. But his name
        was to continue among the new nation of spiritual Israel, the Christian
        congregation, even when that new nation began to embrace non-Jewish persons in its membership. Presiding at a Christian assembly in Jerusalem, the disciple James therefore spoke of God as having “turned his attention to the [non-Jewish] nations to take out of them a people for his name.” As proof that this had been foretold, James then quoted a prophecy in the book of
        Amos in which Jehovah’s name appears twice.—Ac 15:2, 12-14;
        Am 9:11, 12.

      • i_am_filipino

        One time, A group of jehovah knocked on our door to spread the word. I examined and found them legitimate and not a disguise so I allowed them to come to our home. They preached and I listened because somehow I am trained to pick up good apples only. Surprisingly, he asked me if he could the book they brought and i said, i don’t have money and told them i can get a free bible at the charity. One guy asked me, do you mind if i smoke and i replied. I dont smoke and said to them, your body is the temple of God and he said, it is not written that it is forbidden in the bible. I asked them define Filthiness and they cant even point it out in the bible BUT I STILL ENJOY THE GOOD APPLES I PICKED UP

      • elpobre

        Are you telling me about JW? and telling me that their members are smoking? and selling their books? why you’re not accuse them of tax evasion. Selling goods are subject for tax, this is your opportunity then to put them down.

      • i_am_filipino

        Filipinos are not rude

      • elpobre

        But your telling me a lie.

      • i_am_filipino

        Why would I? my cousins were there when these 3 members of yours from JW tried to persuade us. They even asked us what is our beliefs, and we told them and they said the only true religion is the JW and we respect their opinions without asking why JW only. Anyway, we enjoyed their visit for sure except when they smoke inside the house.

      • elpobre

        Why also my cousin did not get into this organization due to his smoking habit. They shun smokers, drug addicts and uncleanliness and the like etc…

    • totoys2k

      I am a pure Catholic. When I pray I don’t mention any name. I just say Lord or Father. I don’t know if others are aware of what you are saying.

      • i_am_filipino

        I respect the way you pray because I respect everyones religion. I am not too sure if they are aware coz I never asked or debate. all I know that it is written IN THE HOLY SCRIPTURE THAT MANY WILL DESTROY FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE THEY NEGLECT KNOWLEDGE.

      • Dancing Bear

        I’ve never heard of a “Jew” with such hostility towards Catholics in this day and age. Forget the era during WW2 – you’re ranting and raving incoherently that I even doubt you say you’re a Jew.

      • i_am_filipino

        Did you get my point? “WRITTEN IN THE HOLY SCRIPTURE THAT MANY WILL DESTROY FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE THEY NEGLECT KNOWLEDGE”. THAT STATEMENT IS NOT COMING FROM ME BUT FROM THE SCRIPTURE.

      • i_am_filipino

        I have never been a christian since birth.

      • Dancing Bear

        How many times did you edit your reply? Anyway……you never answered the challenge. You’re answer is vague. I believe you not. Go to Hollywood.

      • i_am_filipino

        Im using a phone with tiny keyboard and dont actually read what i typed until i finished and sometimes too lazy to edit. Why Hollywood? Are you a cartoonist? Hahaha. Enough for me to travel around the world. But I never stop visiting europe and israel

      • Dancing Bear

        LoL Man you’re an infection. Look for your own identity and stop the BS. What’s your real name?

      • i_am_filipino

        I thought it was an intimidation and not a challenge

      • i_am_filipino

        BTW, why did you draw a MASON LOGO on your photo face profile? what is the intention and your message?

      • Dancing Bear

        Stick to the topic. BTW, that’s supposed to be a pentagram. Never finished.

      • i_am_filipino

        That is a confusion. In psychometric test, that is a big failure. Its impression is to mislead the viewer. It could be drawn as a mason Logo, but that logo should be respected for sure. supposed to be a pentagram but drawn a line with continuity or a single stroke even if it is unfinished. definitely not a star of David. Wow, you like robotic defenders too, lol

      • Kenjie Hasaki

        A Filipino Jew? weird… I thought the jewish religion is based on blood. So now, they are accepting gentiles as well to be Jew. Plain weird.

  • peach black

    i’m bothered by the comments. they make it sound as though Roman Catholicism is still relevant to waste your time with. Matagal na silang obsolete. Along with the song-and-dance of the Burn Against and all believers in talking snakes. The wiser one becomes the clearer this whole travesty of faith becomes. puro palabas at pagkukunwari

    • nakawan

      If you choose not to believe in anything, that’s great. But don’t disrespect the people who hold their faiths as important. It’s none of your business anymore.

      • LAD

         pasensya na sa ate ko at bitin yan kagabi sa napulot nyang lalaki, dyos nyan ay yung nakalawit he he hhi

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/Q3K4D7DHINOHU7E2JBPXY3JLZQ Josh

      do you have GOD? if u do? who is ur GOD?

      • LAD

         kayo naman wag nang pansinin yan si ate at iba  God nyan …..yung nakalaylay hihi hi

    • http://www.facebook.com/julio.cabacaba Julio Cabacaba

       IKAW BA YAN CELDRAN BADING? NAKALIMUTAN MO NA NAMAN ATA INUMIN GAMOT MO

    • LAD

       hoy ate di ka lang pinagbigyan nung lalaking kasama mo kagabi kung ano ano na lumalabas sa bibig mo, dun ka lang sa parlor muna palamig ka lukah, ihanap kita ng itm na walang ligo ligo sigurado enjoy ka  yun type mo lam ko hi hihi

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

      kasi po, ang balita ay tungkol sa Simbahang Katolika.  Bakit naman kasi nakikisawsaw ang mga di naman Katoliko? Kung ayaw ninyo sa amin, di wag ninyo. Ganoon lang naman po dapat. Huwag naman po sana bastos at pangungutya ang karamihan ng ikinokomento. Kung na-iinggit kayo, di magpalabas din kayo ng sarili ninyo pa-ek-ek? Wag ka naman mapanghusga kung di mo gaanong alam kung bakit ang mga Katoliko ay mas marami kaysa sa inyong kulto o sekta o lipunan o samahan ng mga mahilig kumontra sa Katoliko. Ang panghuli, ang Salita ng Diyos ay di naluluma o napapanis o natutunaw..Sa Salita ng Diyos itinitatag ang Simbahan ng Katoliko at iisa lamang ito. Pagbalik-baliktaran mo pa ang Bibliya, di mababago ang sinabi ni Kristo Hesus ng itinalaga si Simon Pedro na unang taong pinuno alang-alang sa kanyang Simbahan [“I shall build MY CHURCH” (singular po, isa lang at hindi kung kaninumang imbento na magtayo ng kanya-kanyang relihiyon)] at ibinigay ang mga susi na sumisimbolo ng utos na palaganapin ang simbahan [“I shall give you the keys to heaven and earth; whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven;whatever you loosed shall be loosed in heaven”]. Faith is no travesty. Ignorance is.

      • Jarred Pulido

        Well forum ito and anybody can speak his/her mind. Also since the Catholic Church is meddling on the Philippines domestic policy and law making, politics. Do you think it will be immune to criticism from those catholic or non catholic? Remember the internet is for all. accept that or go to China or North Korea. Hope this is clear enough for you to understand.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

        I respect and I am thankful for the fact that this country of ours grant us that freedom of expression. I can accept what you said about the “Catholic Church is meddling on the Philippines domestic policy and law making, politics” but you are outside the realm of what really is the issue. You can claim that the forum is a free-for-all brawl. But, there is also the responsibility of the person expressing his or her views to respect other freedoms (such as religious liberties, peaceful assembly, privacy, intellectual property rights, and others). Hence, we cannot have just have a free exchange of views when some freedoms are being violated. When someone writes about the “obsolescence” of another person’s religion, the former is already intruding to the freedom to choose one’s faith or religion, especially if that religion is one of the world’s largest conglomeration of faithful members. 1.2 billion Catholics out of 7 billion people in this world is not the majority religion but this fact is something a disrespectful individual can make sweeping statement. Does he think that his comment is harmless when he purports that there is a travesty of faith, full of hypocrisy when there are more Catholics in this country than he who makes irresponsible comments? Sure, he is lying through his gums even if he puts his tongue into his cheek. What he said has no teeth. What he said just went into hot air. May I send back to you what you said – “Hope this is clear enough for you to understand.”?

      • Jarred Pulido

        Some freedoms are violated? Who is stopping you from enjoying all your freedoms? Believe what you want. But this is what I believe and hold true. Majority of Catholics does not follow the holier than thou attitude of some posters here and the opinion of Bishops and priest here in PH, even will all the treats to our politicians and lies peddled (yes lies) against the RH Bill (RH Law) majority including the majority of the Filipino People which are CATHOLICS supports it. Now you may think that you are not disrespectful but you and your Ilk (in this forum) and you know who they are, pass judgement and calls death to heretics or call others cafeteria catholics etc. They and you are disrespectful. So going back “bakit nakikisawsaw” and to shorten my answer “bakit bawal”? You don’t own PDI or this forum. Hope this is clearer.

  • Eddie AAA Calderon

    Two sundays ago at St Olav Church in downtown Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA  I had a juice and doughnut chat with two Panamanian women after the noon mass. The topic of our conversation in Spanish was who would be the next Pope. They told me that he would be from Latin America. I told them that it would be a long shot because there was never a Pope outside Europe and I was telling them that perhaps it would be an Italian since there were more Italian cardinals than others. But I told them “who knows” and perhaps a Latin American Pope would emerge. Their response to me was “Ojala”. Filipinos I chatted after the Sunday mass told me that one of our Filipino cardinals might have a “fighting” chance to become one and I also read this optimism from our Filipino writers after reading their newspaper columns. I was really surprised to see the election of a Latin American Pope from Argentina, the land of the pampas. The Pope or Papa Francisco in Spanish or Papa Francesco in the language of Dante Alleghieri is 100% Italian as his parents were formerly from Italy. There are lots of Argentinian of Italian descent in that country and it will explain why the Argentinian Spanish has an Italian accent and also its pronounciation. I was in Argentina in 1970 during a world tour and on my way back to Minnesota and I notice the Italian influence in language and food also. I noticed this also while studying at the University of Minnesota with my many friends from South America and Argentinians in particular before I travelled to Argentina.

  • marionics

    he he galit na galit ang mga magkatunggali dito e. o eto para matawa na lang kayo at huwag na magaway-

    An elderly Jewish man was admitted to the local
    hospital, which happened to be run by a Catholic order. All the nurses were
    nuns.

    One of the nurses was preparing his records and she asked him who would be
    responsible for his bill.

    “I don’t have any money,” the old man told her.

    “Do you have any family?”

    “I have one sister who changed her religion and became a nun, so she’s an
    old maid.”

    “I’ll have you know that we’re not old maids,” the nurse protested.
    “We’re married to Christ.”

    “In that case,” the old man replied, “send the bill to my
    brother-in-law.” 

    • Crazy_horse101010

      your back see our friends are here ranting again. 

      • Jarred Pulido

        They calling for the death to heretics again. Forgot that its 2013. Forgot that the world has 6.9 B people and only 1.2 B Catholics. Our crusader friend wants to commit genocide in the billions.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        elpobre, marionics, crazy_horse jane tan etc. how did your religion, your faith came into being? how did it start?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    hahaha, this guy thinks he is amusing. : )

    Heretics are not amusing. They go to hell! Modern day heretics have the same faith too!

    (Isaiah 1:19-20) 19 “If you consent and obey,
      You will eat the best of the land;
    20“But if you refuse and rebel,
      You will be devoured by the sword.”
      Truly, the mouth of the LORD has spoken.

    • Crazy_horse101010

      you are disrespecting the pope so what else is new. dec 8 2000 the pope says heaven is open to all as long as they are good . all the just on earth including those who ignore christ  and his church nov 30 2005  the pope again says whoever seeks peace and the good of the community  with a pure conscience will be saved even if he lacks biblical faith. guess that lets you out.. so according to the pope there is no heretics. and faith doesnt matter but if you have problems tweet him. 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        all…means in Church dogma/doctrine…the Catholics and those who has no fault of his own, has never heard the Catholic Church, in good or clear conscience, doing good and at peace to his neighbors, one can be saved!

        you have heard the Catholic Church yet you fail to be a part of the Church the Lord had founded; how can you then be saved? …apart from me and you are nothing! like a branch cut off from the tree and is thrown into fire and burn!

        …he who is not with me is against me!
        That’s what the Lord had said! Its not the apostles. They only protect what the Lord had said and preach in authority!

      • GKLer

        What Jesus said is this, (and don’t change a single letter)
        Luke 9:50 (NIV)
        “Do not stop him,” Jesus said, “for whoever is not against you is for you.”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Q3K4D7DHINOHU7E2JBPXY3JLZQ Josh

    para sa non-catholic na bumabatikos dito, hinay-hinay lang. baka sa UST, ateneo, la salle, mirriam din ang bagsak ng mga anak nyo, nakakhiya lang kayo. peace mga dude.

    • LAD

      may tinatayo yatang university yung mga jamaaya Islamaya dyan sa may quiapo , pioneer sila dun, pwedi din sialng mag masters sa Afghanistan, Taliban University kaya lang puro business course lang dun, Opium Production etc..

    • i_am_filipino

      I thought la salle is no longer a catholic school but buddism due to chinese students.

  • Fulpol

    the Jesuits of Ateneo de Manila are quite disappointed… they should be represented by a rich Jesuit Pope… not a poor Pope…

    strange?? yes, even Catholic in the Philippines are divided by rich and poor devouts and faithfuls..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CCA3O4ZRS3KVLCN5FNQ2WTHQN4 ecnarf

    I’m a Catholic who really enjoy my life. I’m a married person with 3 kids. We do pray the Holy Rosary everyday with intention for us, others and for the souls, We also read the Holy Gospel everyday and reflect to self as a family, for short we apply the message of the Gospel to our life and our family.

    We received all the blessings we asked from God in orderly, but sometimes God gave us more than what we as for. Now a days, We seldomly ask him since he’s always there for us. So thats why instead on ask him, we say Thanks always.

    My kids were both born on significant days of the Church Calendar and their name were extracted
    on it. So far they were smart, talented and healthy.

    Me and my wife had extra human behavior that can heal a person. it just came out when we started praying the Holy Rosary.

    Right now, we are poor family in abroad but we are the Happy… full of Love in the family.

    So, i dont care if you’re catholic or not…. I’m just telling to the world that i dont have regret of being a Catholic… it makes our life Wonderful…

    • janglegirl

      I’m glad that there are people like you who are thankful for what they have. I think what is most important for us is basically to have good health and a good life and an unwavering faith in God. Cheers!

    • politics201138

      ecnarf:
      Beautiful message!
      May heaven blesses you more and your family.

    • Romance Soldier

      It’s ok to be catholic or with whatever religion you find faith at. As long you are like this…understanding and your faith is not based on the Pope but with the belief of a power unseen. no matter how you are able to access such claimed power of healing from the Holy Rosary, there will still be a great possibility that you both were born with it and does not necessarily mean it came from the Rosary. Most of the time it was how you were feeling the time you were praying. Just like how you can lift a refrigerator in moments of adrenaline. Come to think of it.

  • TUMBOKIN

    viva le papa!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    Indeed, we are sinners. Indeed while being on earth, its a struggle against good and evil. Evil has succeeded in its temptation even to the man of cloth. How much more to an ordinary faithful.

    But the goodness of the Lord is more far greater than these evil doings! Far is the truth and love that encompass the flock of the Lord!

    That is why, He created His Church for salvation to come to his people! It was very clear that He was the corner stone that the stone builder has rejected. He alone was the savior that the Jews failed to see. He protected His Church from error as even the gates of hell cannot stand against it! Its a triumph against evil. True indeed as Christ is infallible, His Church is just the same.

    For all of these saving power to come to His people, He commissioned Peter as the head of the apostles to continue preaching the good news. In the Church that He had established, He gave the apostles the power to forgive sins….Truly, I tell you, whatever you will bind on earth will be bound in heaven. Whatever you will loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.

    Indeed this is the continuing salvific ministry of Christ through His disciples! Be in the Church the Lord has founded. Confess and repent for the sins committed! There is no other way than what the Lord had established for men to believe and be saved!

    Its the people who sinned not the Church. The Church is perfect just as Christ is perfect!

    Jesus had Judas with Him. But the disciples never doubt that He is the Son of God. His divinity was never tarnished because of Judas. The same and true to His Church! His Church is never tarnished because of the sinners in its flock. This is the purpose of His Church (through the apostles) to forgive the sinners so the people will be in communion with Him in heaven.

    It is a shallow reason not to be in the Lord’s house because there are gentiles in it. Indeed, He came for the sinners and for all to be saved. He had His house for all to come in and join Him in His Father!

    Who then will not come in the Lord’s house? The devil!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    elpobre, marionics, crazy_horse etc. how did your religion, your faith came into being? how did it start?

  • InChristAlone_75

    For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— NOT BY WORKS, SO THAT NO ONE CAN BOAST. – Ephesians 2:8-9

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.

      Sola Fide…fallacy by Martin Luther!

      • InChristAlone_75

        Your Catholic Bible although it includes the Apocrypha is the same as mine and will have the same very clear Ephesian verse – Salvation is God’s grace, NOT your works (i.e. donating to charitable institutions, going to mass, ‘being good’, baptism, novena/rosary etc) so you and me cannot boast. This did not come from Martin Luther, it’s God’s Word.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    …in Church dogma/doctrine…the Catholics and those who has no fault of his own, has never heard the Catholic Church, in good or clear conscience, doing good and at peace to his neighbors, one can be saved!

    The Catholics have to work out for their salvation. There is no automatic process for salvation. The saints are worth emulating their ways having being our companion here on earth and witnessing to their holy lives.

    people who have heard the Catholic Church yet failed to be a part of the Church the Lord had founded; how can they be saved then? …apart from me and you are nothing! like a branch cut off from the tree and is thrown into fire and burn!

    …he who is not with me is against me!

    That’s what the Lord had said! Its not the apostles. They only protect what the Lord had said and preach in authority!

    • InChristAlone_75

      As it is written: “THERE IS NO ONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE” – Romans 3:10.

      If we can work our way to heaven, why did Jesus have to die for our sins?.

      God’s simple plan of salvation is this: If you believe on Jesus Christ as your crucified,buried, and risen Savior, you receive forgiveness for all of your sins and His gift of eternal
      salvation by faith.

      For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life – John 3:16

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    “Since Mary would not have been a worthy
    mother of God if she had ever sinned, we assert without qualification that Mary
    never committed a sinful act, fatal or non-fatal: You are wholly beautiful, my
    love, and without blemish. Christ is the source of grace, author of it as God
    and instrument of it as man, and, since Mary was closest to Christ in giving
    him his human nature, she rightly received from him fullness of grace: grace in
    such abundance as to bring her closest in grace to its author, receiving into
    herself the one who was full of every grace [for others], and, by giving birth
    to him, bringing grace to all.”

    • InChristAlone_75

      FOR ALL HAVE SINNED and fall short of the glory of God. – Romans 3:23

      And Mary said: “My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God MY SAVIOR. Luke 1:46-47.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    “Consequently, then, Mary the Virgin is found to
    be obedient, saying, “Behold, 0 Lord, your handmaid; be it done to me
    according to your word.” Eve…who was then still a virgin although she had
    Adam for a husband — for in paradise they were both naked but were not ashamed;
    for, having been created only a short time, they had no understanding of the
    procreation of children…having become disobedient [sin], was made the cause of
    death for herself and for the whole human race; so also Mary, betrothed to a
    man but nevertheless still a virgin, being obedient [no sin], was made the
    cause of salvation for herself and for the whole human race….Thus, the knot of
    Eve’s disobedience was loosed by the obedience of Mary. What the virgin Eve had
    bound in unbelief, the Virgin Mary loosed through faith

    • InChristAlone_75

      Is not this the carpenters son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? – Matthew 13:55

      While He was still speaking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and
      brothers were standing outside, seeking to speak to Him. And someone
      said to Him, “Behold, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside
      seeking to speak to You.” – Matthew 12:46-47

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    “Since Mary would not have been a worthy
    mother of God if she had ever sinned, we assert without qualification that Mary
    never committed a sinful act, fatal or non-fatal: You are wholly beautiful, my
    love, and without blemish. Christ is the source of grace, author of it as God
    and instrument of it as man, and, since Mary was closest to Christ in giving
    him his human nature, she rightly received from him fullness of grace: grace in
    such abundance as to bring her closest in grace to its author, receiving into
    herself the one who was full of every grace [for others], and, by giving birth
    to him, bringing grace to all.”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    The basis for the belief in the Immaculate Conception of Mary can be found in the Biblical revelation of holiness and the opposite of that state, sinfulness.

    God is revealed as perfect interior holiness.

    Is 6:3

    “Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of hosts!” they (the Seraphim) cried one to the other.

    No sin or anything tainted with sin can stand in the face of the holiness of God. “Enmity” is that mutual hatred between Mary and sin, between Christ and sin.

    Gen 3:15

    I will put enmity between you (the serpent, Satan) and the woman (Mary), and between your offspring (minions of Satan) and hers (Jesus); He will strike at your head, while you strike at his heel.

    • InChristAlone_75

      Mary although highly favored by God was an ordinary being, sinner like all of us, in need of a Savior. Only Jesus Christ was born without sin and lived a sinless life.

      If Mary was born without original sin then her mother would have been born without originial sin too, otherwise Mary would have inherited a sinful nature from her and the mother from Mary’s grandmother and so forth…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    For the birth of God as a human being, God was interested in the condition of the mother’s womb. For even a great, but imperfect, judge of Israel, Samson, God was directive about the state of the mother during the pregnancy. The request for the mother to be pure is repeated for emphasis.

    Judges 13:3f

    An angel of the LORD appeared to the woman and said to her, “Though you are barren and have had no children, yet you will conceive and bear a son. Now, then, be careful to take no wine or strong drink and to eat nothing unclean.”

    Judges 13:7

    “But he (the angel) said to me, ‘You will be with child and will bear a son. So take neither wine nor strong drink, and eat nothing unclean. For the boy shall be consecrated to God from the womb, until the day of his death.’ ”

    Judges 13:13f

    The angel of the LORD answered Manoah, “Your wife is to abstain from all the things of which I spoke to her. She must not eat anything that comes from the vine, nor take wine or strong drink, nor eat anything unclean. Let her observe all that I have commanded her.”

    How much more would God be interested in the state of His own mother’s womb!

    The salutation of the Angel Gabriel is different from the usual angelic greeting. It indicates that Mary was exceptionally “highly favored with grace” (Greek: caritovw, charitoo, used twice in the New Testament, in Lk 1:28 for Mary – before Christ’s redemption; and Eph 1:6 for Christ’s grace to us – after Christ’s redemption).

    Lk 1:28

    And coming to her (Mary), he (the angel Gabriel) said, “Hail, favored one (kecharitomene)”

    Eph 1:4–6

    (God) chose us in him (Jesus), before the foundation of the world, to be holy and without blemish before him. In love he destined us for adoption to himself through Jesus Christ, in accord with the favor of his will, for the praise of the glory of his grace (echaritosen) that he granted us in the beloved.

    Note that the angel’s salutation preceded Mary’s acquiescence. Mary was already highly favored. God’s grace was not given in time after Mary accepted the angel’s word. The Church believes that this grace was given from the very beginning of Mary’s life. It is clearly grace because at the time of Mary’s conception she could have done nothing to earn it.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    “The very fact that God has elected her proves
    that none was ever holier than Mary, if any stain had disfigured her soul, if
    any other virgin had been purer and holier, God would have selected her and
    rejected Mary.” (A.D. 521).

  • Kenjie Hasaki

    I am not a Catholic. I am a Protestant. But admit or not, the Roman Catholic Church is the only organization in the whole world who has the resources to defend Christianity against Islamic extremism. I am happy that the Catholics have a chosen the a leader that will defend as all in modern times religious war.

  • Kenjie Hasaki

    If we only love our haters, this thread would never reach that long…

  • InChristAlone_75

    Like a scarecrow in a cucumber field, their idols cannot speak; they
    must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do
    no harm nor can they do any good. Jeremiah 10:5

  • http://www.yahoo.com JOSE RIZAL

    Long live the Pope, indeed!
    I’m sure with the chosen name “Francis” he would be the “vessel of His peace”….to humanity.

  • Romance Soldier

    Dear,
    Thank you for wanting to go back to the roots. In this place of sixes and sevens, where confusion breeds chaos, and contradiction is at best, going back to the roots is the best. To know the root of death, the root cause and the root of all evil (evil defined as confusion and contradiction that lead to chaos and suffering) will lead you back to where it all started, Romans. Who killed the man and who profited from the man? Who blackmailed the man? Who then pierced the man? Whose soldiers are they? The root of all evil killed the man and ironically they carry the cross of the man. They said “Give thine offerings to the Son of God, who died for all your sins and has saved you from hell’s den! Bow to us, we are the man of God, the ordained anointed sanctified holy ones, wearing white yet so dirty inside. We are your bridge to God, confess all your sins and let us be the one to forgive you.” And from there wars and today has come. Now, Argentina is crying out loud.
    Francis, you warned and thou shalt also be warned. For you have judged thou shalt be judged. Humility is trickery, you ride public transports, get yourself in a simple bed and live with the poor just to let this whole world know you are humble. Now, if I am lying with about what your heart and soul are really telling, then you shall live healthily for the next ten years and if these words are truth let your lungs grasp air in the days of the years to come until it would be so hard to bear or let someone kill you.
    Can you really tell a man humble if he appears meek and serving to the lowly, especially if he is in a ministry where almost everybody wants to be in the papabile? Is this humility? I am asking you. Can denouncing riches and fame to serve the poor a valid basis of humility? What is humility Francis if your heart had deceived many? You are not humble. You showed the world you were. A man of humility knows what humanity is, its present needs, its present state, everything that humanity is. Above all a man of humility knows one thing, that is UNDERSTANDING.
    A man of humility knows that to serve the poor is to help the poor GET OUT from the bondages of poverty. Pull them out of Poverty from ignorance just like how people like you judged the airplane as works of witchcraft, poverty from doctrines and dogmas concealed with lies to gain power and money. Poverty from people like you who know nothing but self gratification, showing the world you can turn away from riches and silently be proud of it. Your heart once said “Look at me people, I can leave fortune. I am humble. I will serve the poor in this way because I know this will get me the glory for the papabili”.
    A man of true humility will be aware of everything that was entrusted to him, like the good and faithful servant. Thou fool, God gave you the riches from birth. If you really have the heart for the poor, you should have even tried to at least multiply or make use of your God given money and shared it to them, give them jobs or the resource to teach them how to fish and get fish. If nothing happened with those efforts…at least you tried before you treated those gifts like trash. Is this humility or pride to the highest degree, God gave you riches from birth you have been very proud to bury it. Now how more proud can you get when the world is talking about the very thing you buried.
    You judge people who sincerely care for humanity is this being humble, holier than thou whilst your heart is full of hate and judgment and your soul of blemishes. You blame every choice of humanity while you can’t even take responsibility of your own crimes back in the war. You are quite relaxed and safe because those you have done wrong, violated, abused during your younger days are dead already. No one can get you face all those things you did or even witness about it. Everybody can say it is a lie. Is this being humble? Indeed, mistakes should and cannot define a person the point here is your humility are you sincerely humble?
    Humility the trickiest above all, there are people of humility, sincerely humble in words, thoughts and actions lived and die in poverty, isn’t humility the giver of fortune? There are also people deemed proud and are very proud yet they lived and die with fortune. How faithful are you servant?
    This is written to not let you in any way deceive this world out of your greed because a TRUE, Sincere Jesuit, Jesus follower will know and feel with all heart’s belief that there is no particular church and that things in the church world are reciprocal, that the root of Catholicsm is Christianity, that humility is to care for humanity and not judge any newly unraveled works as works of witchcraft because in time it will be nothing but an airplane. Jesus was put to the cross out of envy, money and accusation of a traitor telling everyone Jesus knew witchcraft and was evil. Now, Jesus is worshipped and used by people like you because you like the feeling of being bowed down to.
    A true humble servant will not let anyone even it is tradition to bow and hail him because he knows that he is nothing but a SERVANT. You have let the world bow and hail. Are you really humble, claimed Servant of the poor?
    To sincerely love is the most complicated above all…you have judged souls who truly love each other regardless of their gender and their status…then how could you understand God if you can’t even understand this complicated matter?
    Are you really humble claimed servant of the poor? Let these words flow with the wind and be the very air that you breathe until truth will set this world free.

    Written as,
    A Return

  • virgoyap

    By the example and lifestyle shown by Pope Francis I’m sure many Catholics will go back to the fold of the Church. His action and deeds speaks louder than a thousand words.

    • Guest

      kunwari babae ka…alam mo yung ligaw actions ang galing…pero ginagawa lang yun para makuha iyong kiliti. ok to be catholic but not with the romans, faith not with the pope and cross with a risen Lord. Virgo, not all actions can speak louder than words. :) I miss a virgoan…honestly…

    • Romance Soldier

      kunwari babae ka…alam mo yung ligaw actions ang galing…pero ginagawa
      lang yun para makuha iyong kiliti. ok to be catholic but not with the
      romans, faith not with the pope and cross with a risen Lord. Virgo, not
      all actions can speak louder than words. :)

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