Sex abuse victims list ‘dirty dozen’ papal candidates

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Cardinals leave at the end of a vespers celebration in St. Peter’s Basilica at the Vatican, Wednesday, March 6, 2013. Clergy sex abuse victims released a “dirty dozen” list of potential papal candidates Wednesday and urged the Catholic Church to “get serious” about protecting children, helping victims and exposing corruption. AP/GREGORIO BORGIA

CHICAGO—Clergy sex abuse victims released a “dirty dozen” list of potential papal candidates Wednesday and urged the Catholic Church to “get serious” about protecting children, helping victims and exposing corruption.

“We want to urge Catholic prelates to stop pretending that the worst is over regarding the clergy sex abuse and cover up crisis,” said David Clohessy, director of the US-based Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, or SNAP.

“Tragically, the worst is almost certainly ahead.”

The organization cited a dozen cardinals from the United States, Mexico, Honduras, Italy, Australia, Czech Republic, Canada, Argentina and Ghana accused of protecting pedophile priests and making offensive public statements.

They are all considered to be contenders to succeed Pope Benedict XVI, who was criticized for his handling of the sex abuse scandals that have rocked the church in the United States and Europe.

SNAP also opposes electing any member of the Roman Curia, the administrative branch of the Holy See.

“We feel no current Vatican ‘insider’ has the will to truly ‘clean house’ in the Vatican and elsewhere,'” Clohessy said in a statement.

“Promoting a Curia member would discourage victims, witnesses, whistleblowers and advocates from reporting wrongdoing.”

The blacklist included: Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana; Cardinal Tarsicio Bertone of Italy; Cardinal Dominik Duka of Czech Republic; Cardinal Norberto Rivera Carrera of Mexico; Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga of Honduras; Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York; Cardinal Donald Wuerl of Washington; Cardinal Sean O’Malley of Boston; Cardinal Angelo Scola of Italy; Cardinal Leonardo Sandri of Argentina; Cardinal George Pell of Australia; and Cardinal Marc Ouellet of Quebec, Canada.

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  • Crazy_horse101010

    wonder how many priests are protected in the phippines

  • brunogiordano

    “Sex abuse victims list ‘dirty dozen’ papal candidates”

    Akala ko sa PILIPINAS lang maraming ‘DIRTY’ na OBISPO.

    Iyong mga OBISPO na nagsasabit ng mga team patay GIANT POSTERS hindi lang ‘DIRTY’, mga DAMASO pa!!!!!

  • bogli_anakdami

    kaksaker padre dumbasso/pedopriests are flipland’s holiest gung gongs…

    no flip traposakals, uniformed thugs, magnanakaws, et al dare to question kaksaker padre dumbasso’s behavior…

    yun lang…

  • mangtom

    Team Dirty Dozen-in US. Does not matter where-Catholic priests or higher ranked are members of this Team. Navarra is painting a picture of those who don’t believe in his cause to be the unfit for election. What a hypocrite cleric this Navarra. 

    We have here in the Philippines the unheard of Team P.T.-Pedophile Priest, Pesteng Pari, or Pareng Topak. 

    Kalilibog talaga nitong mga pare. Pero kung magsalita-mga santoL at santiti pala.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W7TPARCYJFCSA3PBQAM3MVZO3E kurakut

      TO PHIL. GLASS SUPPLIERS:
       
      PLS. DONATE LIFE SIZED MIRRORS TO BACOLOD CATHOLIC PRIESTS. TINGNAN NYO ANG MGA SARILI NYO.

  • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

    hmmmm. baka pwede din natin i post yung mga pangalan ng mga ‘Dirty Priests’ sa mga private properties, tulad ng church, or commercial buildings?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RTQRGKHFGLKSSJAK5J5PLOXAQQ Halo

    Many of the top contenders are on that list. Di kaya black propaganda lang ito. Although some of the names were indeed involve in cover up of sex scandals involving priests and lay workers under their jurisdictions.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Protacio-Secoya/100002600513149 Protacio Secoya

    o kayong mga pari, bakit hindi nyo ilagay sa malaking tarpaulin ang mga pangalan nga mga pari na sangkot sa mga kabalbalan? ung tumanggap ng mga sasakyan kay arroyo? ung mga pedopilya? ung may mga kabit? ung mga corrupt na pati mga pari ay nagrereklamo? nagmamalinis kayo, e ang iyong grupo bulok rin naman. pweh!

  • mangtom

    kurakut: I would like to donate a mirror as big as the tarp to the Bacolod diocese. Please tell me where to send the payment-no joke, I will borrow money if I have to.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Protacio-Secoya/100002600513149 Protacio Secoya

    mga pari na: TEAM MUKHANG PERA, TEAM BABAERO, TEAM PLASTIK, TEAM CORRUPT, cg nga kung talagang malinis kayo!

    • rambe66

      at saka team suv.

      • kismaytami

        Team Pedo.

  • akoombulator

    wahahahaha! eto naman ang salakay sa pwet list ng mga pari bwahahahaha!

  • virgoyap

    So this includes Cardinal Turkson the no.1 papabile contender. What if he will be elected Pope?

    • wakats

      Very possible, due to the influence of one obama from Kenya….

  • mangtom

    Team Dirty Half a Dozen in the Philippines: members-1. Tagle 2. Navarra 3. Arguelles, 4. Cruz 5. What’s the name of the pedo/ivory smuggler priest? 6. Any of the mitsubishops will do.

    • wakats

      They also belong to TEAM DAMASO…..

      • kismaytami

        Tumpak!

    • Anqui

      Including the Bishops who  received vehicles from GMA…mga magnanakaw!!!

  • geminimind

    Why do people say “BLESS ME FATHER FOR I HAVE SINNED”?
    maybe  because they want more of it.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

      Hahaha,, you’re right!. It should be “condemn” me father… 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/PYGLPYCIHV4RRCYCRWR5XNGJ6Y Sarrah

        ………. Ayyyyyy ikaw din pala.MAY GOD BLESS YOU

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/PYGLPYCIHV4RRCYCRWR5XNGJ6Y Sarrah

      buhay pa pala ang mga taong nagpapako kay JESUS sa krus at dumami pa. oo ikaw yon o eto sampung daliri ko pa nakaturo sa iyo.MAY GOD BLESS YOU

  • akoombulator

    husay talaga ni god kinarma agad ang mga hinayupak na pari wahahahaha supalpal! wahahahaha

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XFH3CDZSZKVLX4G74PJOQ3L64U Natx Bacalzo

    Bacolod diocese should also print and post this list of sex abuser and coddlers bishops to be fair. 

  • wakats

    OMG!!!  The betting odds (from Ireland bookies) on the next pope is a giveaway to Cardinal Angelo Scola of Milan at 2-1; Peter Turkson of Ghana at 5-2; Vatican Secretary Tarcisio Bartone at 7-2; and Marc Quellet of Quebec at 10-2. (source: CNN online)

    Pope Benedict XVI unexpectedly resigned on suspicion of scandals that he can’t withstand. Happy days are expected to continue in the Vatican….

     

  • Jarred Pulido

    Tulog pa ang team Catholic Talibans. Wala pang post ng mga teachings ng RC kahit Off Topic and Holier than thou blah blah blah..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      …outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans but
      also Jews or heretics and schismatics, cannot share in eternal life and will go
      into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels,
      unless they are joined to the Church before the end of their lives.

      • Jarred Pulido

        Blah blah blah. Broken recod Blah blah blah

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        blah blah blah kasi nabuking!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001224686307 Seven Seven

    Huwad ang relihiyong catholico romano, nagba banal-banalan

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/PYGLPYCIHV4RRCYCRWR5XNGJ6Y Sarrah

      yan ang sabi ng mga taong nagpapako kay JESUS sa krus

      • peach black

        i want to know your take on pedophile priests. do they exist or not? stop quoting the Bible. Just answer yes or no.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      kahapon lang kayo ginawa, tapos yun catholics pa ang huwad ngayon! anak ng tipaklong! ok un pag brainwash ng pastor sa yo!

      di mo tinanong kailang lang nagsimula reliyon nyo? sino founder nyo?

  • $16638896

    puro mga bakla amputa!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    Fundamentalist
    Protestant Fallacy: Being Born Again

     

    To be born again is to
    be baptized by WATER and SPIRIT! Not just by saying “I am born again” and some
    magic words of your pastor!

     

    This is another false interpretation of the bible being made true by fundamentalist protestants (born again)!

     

    Catholics beware!!!

     

    John 3: 5Jesus
    responded: “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless one has been reborn by WATER and
    the Holy Spirit, he is not able to enter into the kingdom of God. 6What is born
    of the flesh is flesh, and what is born of the Spirit is spirit.

     

    Acts 8:
    baptism of water: 34Then the eunuch responded to Philip, saying: “I beg you,
    about whom is the prophet saying this? About himself, or about someone else?”
    35Then Philip, opening his mouth and beginning from this Scripture, evangelized
    Jesus to him. 36And while they were going along the way, they arrived at a
    certain water source. And the eunuch said: “There is water. What would prevent
    me from being baptized?” 37Then Philip said, “If you believe from your whole
    heart, it is permitted.” And he responded by saying, “I believe the Son of God
    to be Jesus the Christ.” 38And he ordered the chariot to stand still. And both
    Philip and the eunuch descended into the WATER. And he baptized him. 39And when
    they had ascended from the WATER, the Spirit of the Lord took Philip away, and
    the eunuch did not see him anymore. Then he went on his way, rejoicing. 40Now
    Philip was found in Azotus. And continuing on, he evangelized all the cities,
    until he arrived in Caesarea

    • Crazy_horse101010

      i see my favorite hypocrite  still preaching even while his leaders are on a one way ticket to hell

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        HAHAHA. You got the first ride to HELL!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/PYGLPYCIHV4RRCYCRWR5XNGJ6Y Sarrah

        refrain from casting your stones it might hurt you

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        whats our argument?

      • johnlagrimas

        …hmmm well, after you Herod!

  • kilabot

    if any dirty dozen cardinal is elected pope, 
    he will become infallible and white as snow; 
    like an immunity or absolution; 
    lucky monsignor.

  • kilabot

    for starters, a little back-to-basics re-education may help. 
    try this: 

    corrective biology for deviants 101 
    =================================== 
    human anatomy hides the anus deep between the buttocks; 
    it is hidden because it is one of the dirtiest human part used for vowel movement; 
    not supposed to be used other than its intended purpose, as passageway of human waste; 
    anus is not a reproductive sex organ, either. not designed for that; 
    what one gets when using it for sex is orga$m of germs; 
    foolishly, lgbts defy nature and in their perverted lu$t misuse the hole; 
    treating it like a hidden treasure to be expropriated instead of to keep away from; 
    so they caress it, kiss it, put makeup on it and penetrate it; 
    calling it love; deadly love; not the romeo&juliet deadly type; it’s the hiv/aids deadly type; 
    this love spreads hiv/aids; 25% more and faster; 
    many famous people have become victims of this love. all dead; 
    rockhudson, liberace, fredmercury, to name a few; 
    one thing good about this perversion is it is self-liquidating; no need for rhbill. 

    • kanoy

       WOW I COULD HEAR KAT-0-LICK PRIESTS SALIVA HIT THE FLOOR AS THEY RAN TO THEIR CONFESSIONAL BOOTHS WHERE THEY HIDE THEIR PENIS PUMPS THEY USE AS THEY SLOBBER OVER CHILD CONFESSIONS

      • johnlagrimas

        …penis is more useful that your filthy mouth!

      • kanoy

         THAT IS YOUR GAY KOCK-0-LICK OPINION AND LIFE STYLE THAT THE WORLD HAS COME TO UNDERSTAND

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    Fundamentalist Protestant Fallacy: Being Born AgainTo be born again is to be baptized by WATER and SPIRIT! Not just by saying “I am born again” and some magic words of your pastor! This is another false interpretation of the bible being made true by fundamentalist protestants (born again)! Catholics beware!!! 
    Acts 10: 46For they heard them speaking in tongues and magnifying God. 47Then Peter responded, “How could anyone prohibit water, so that those who have received the Holy Spirit
    would not be baptized, just as we also have been?” 48And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of the Lord
    Jesus Christ. Then they begged him to remain with them for some days.

    • Crazy_horse101010

      only a dozen?

    • Crazy_horse101010

      i thought this was about baby rapers

    • kanoy

       GAY KAT-0-LICK CHURCH FALLACY MARY MOTHER OF JESUS, JAMES, JUDAS, JOSES, SIMON AND SOLOME IS A ”PERPETUAL” VIRGIN
      Monsignor Luis Antonio Tagle, archbishop of Manila, Philippines, said deference to church authorities in places like the overwhelmingly Roman Catholic Philippines may also have contributed to keeping a lid on reports. He said more and more victims have come forward in the past five years in the Philippines, but that incidents of priests keeping mistresses still far outpace reports of priests preying on children.

      CANDIDATE FOR POPE?? A MAN WHO DENIES THE TRUTH—TAGLE??
      Tagle’s presentation made clear that the sex abuse scandal — which first erupted in Ireland in the 1990s, the United States in 2002, and Europe at large in 2010 — hadn’t yet reached Asia.
      2/9/2012? HAS NOT REACHED ASIA YET? ANOTHER POPE WHO DENIES THE TRUTH? 11 YEARS AGO 2002

       07/08’/02
      Philippines Church apologises for sex abuse
      The Philippines Catholic Church has apologised for sexual abuse by hundreds of its priests over the last 20 years.
      The Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines said on Monday that it was now drafting guidelines on
      how to deal with such offences by its clergy.
      BUT THE PHILIPPINE BET SAID 10 YEARS LATER ”IT HAS NOT HIT ASIA YET”
      EITHER THEY WHERE LYING THEN—OR HE IS LYING NOW

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/PYGLPYCIHV4RRCYCRWR5XNGJ6Y Sarrah

        refrain from casting your stones it might hurt you

      • kanoy

         SORRY PAL BUT MY NAME IS NOT TAGLE AND I DID NOT GET UP IN FRONT OF A LOT OF KAT-0-LICK BIG WIGS AND TELL THIS BOLD FACED LIE..TAGLE DID BUT WHAT DO WE EXPECT THE GAY KAT-0-LICK CHURCH TO DO? ONLY 1 TOLD THE TRUTH AND IT SURE WAS ”NOT IN ASIA YET” TAGLE THE LIAR

        Following Resignation, Top British Cardinal Acknowledges Sexual Misconduct
        Britain’s most senior Roman Catholic cleric, Cardinal Keith O’Brien, acknowledged Sunday that he had been guilty of sexual misconduct, a week after he announced his resignation and said he would not attend the conclave to choose the next pope. The moves followed revelations that three current and one former priest had accused him of inappropriate sexual contact dating back decades

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/PYGLPYCIHV4RRCYCRWR5XNGJ6Y Sarrah

        as i said refrain from casting your stones….you see,you hurt your self baby.come to PAPA and cure you.MAY GOD BLESS YOU.

      • kanoy

         AS LONG AS THAT GAY CHURCH KEEPS ENABLING THEIR PEDOPHILE PRIESTS TO USE AND ABUSE GODS INNOCENT CHILDREN IT WILL CONTINUE TO FALL FROM GODS GOOD GRACE

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/PYGLPYCIHV4RRCYCRWR5XNGJ6Y Sarrah

        opppsss.dont put your finger at your nose,it might bleed again. ohhhhhhhhhh poor child you keep on hurting your self,ok ok sleep now and tommorow you will be enligthened.ok MAY GOD BLESS YOU

      • kanoy

         THE ONLY THING BLEEDING ARE THE AZZ HOLES OF ALTER BOYZ
        CARDINALS IN THIS GAY AIDS/HIV INFESTED CHURCH ARE A JOKE THIS IS WHAT THEY END UP WITH AS POPE-ON-A-ROPE
        LOS ANGELES — In a move unprecedented in the American Catholic Church, Los Angeles Archbishop Jose Gomez announced Thursday that he had relieved his predecessor, Cardinal Roger M. Mahony, of all public duties over his mishandling of clergy sex abuse of children decades ago.

        Gomez also said that Auxiliary Bishop Thomas J. Curry, who worked with Mahony to conceal abusers from police in the 1980s, had resigned his post as a regional bishop in Santa Barbara.

        The announcement came as the church posted on its website tens of thousands of pages of previously secret personnel files for 122 priests accused of molesting children.

        “I find these files to be brutal and painful reading. The behavior described in these files is terribly sad and evil,” Gomez wrote in a letter addressed to “My brothers and sisters in Christ.”

        The release of the records and the rebuke of the two central figures in L.A.’s molestation scandal signaled a clear desire by Gomez to define the sexual abuse crisis as a problem of a different era — and a different archbishop.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/PYGLPYCIHV4RRCYCRWR5XNGJ6Y Sarrah

        dont be deceive with your goggling mind that the devil keep on provoking your peace of mind be steadfast and keep your pureheart be guarded.GOD BLESS CATHOLIC CHRISTIANS.

      • kanoy

          Many analysts saw the cardinal’s resignation and absence from the conclave as a result of papal pressure, and British newspapers have cited unidentified Vatican officials as saying Pope Benedict — who stunned the world with his own announcement on Feb. 11 that he would step down — had ordered the cardinal to remove himself.

        Benedict’s resignation, which he attributed to ill health and exhaustion, took effect on Thursday, bringing an end to an eight-year papacy overshadowed by scandals involving cover-ups of pedophilia and other forms of sexual abuse by Catholic clerics.

      • johnlagrimas

        May you rest in peace. Kawawa ka talaga! Ignorant fool!

      • kanoy

         I WILL REST IN HELL-0 WITH POPE JOHN PAUL AND BENEDICT
        April 26 — A trusted ally of Pope John Paul II has been accused of sexually abusing boys a half-century ago at an elite seminary for the Catholic Church.
        The alleged victims say the Vatican knew of the allegations against Father Marcial Maciel and chose not to pursue them.

        In fact, the pope has continued to praise 82-year-old Maciel, a Mexico native, as an effective leader of Catholic youth, despite detailed allegations sent to the Vatican four years ago saying the man was also a long-time pedophile.

        Maciel denies the charges and said the men made them up only after leaving the Legion of Christ.

        Maciel is the founder of the little-known but well-connected and well-financed Legion of Christ which has raised millions of dollars for the Church. Operating in the United States and 19 other countries, the Legion of Christ recruits boys as young as 10 years old to leave their families and follow a rigorous course of study to become priests.

      • kanoy

         I WILL REST IN HELL-0 WITH ALL THE POPES WHO COVERED UP PEDOPHILE PRIEST ACTIVITIES
        April 26 — A trusted ally of Pope John Paul II has been accused of sexually abusing boys a half-century ago at an elite seminary for the Catholic Church.
        The alleged victims say the Vatican knew of the allegations against Father Marcial Maciel and chose not to pursue them.

        In fact, the pope has continued to praise 82-year-old Maciel, a Mexico native, as an effective leader of Catholic youth, despite detailed allegations sent to the Vatican four years ago saying the man was also a long-time pedophile.

        Maciel denies the charges and said the men made them up only after leaving the Legion of Christ.

        Maciel is the founder of the little-known but well-connected and well-financed Legion of Christ which has raised millions of dollars for the Church. Operating in the United States and 19 other countries, the Legion of Christ recruits boys as young as 10 years old to leave their families and follow a rigorous course of study to become priests.

      • billijo

        You will know a tree by the fruit that it bares. I did not see.or hear any stones being thrown. The truth needs no defending. It is like a two edged sword. Some time we all get cut when we tell the truth, Should we then keep the lying going so the truth does not hurt us?

    • Hurtlocker1

      What’s your point???

      A true Christian doesent want to debate the WORD among every kindred, tongues and peoples.

      Doing that would already become one a fundamentalist.

      A true Chrstian should have manifested on him/her the fruits of the Spirit: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.

      Having these treats, I am sure, even yourself, will agree with me, if you are one.

      God bless you.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        …my point? claiming to be born again and be saved is a fallacy!

        To be saved, one must be reborn of the WATER and the SPIRIT! That is to be baptized!

        Not just by a ceremony and accepting Jesus as personal lord and saviour!

      • davidpantad

        the dying thief was not baptized in water

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        yes correct! he was not baptized coz God Himself pardoned him! 

        but it the absence of Jesus, he instituted the sacrament of baptism! …to be reborn by the water and the holy spirit in order to enter the kingdom of God!

      • davidpantad

        would individuals who have not participated in the sacrament of baptism not enter the kingdom of God?

      • johnlagrimas

        Excuse me? Not baptized in water? Wrong!  Jesus said, “I am the living water”.  It means that the thief received Jesus the living water so he lived.  Baptism means dying with Jesus and living with Him.

        Poor understanding!

      • davidpantad

        thanks for your explanation. you are truly wise.

      • Jarred Pulido

        Dont feed the troll.

    • foreignerph

      Take your pills in time.

    • johnlagrimas

      …brother, ganun naman talaga ang syle nila kasi pag intindihin mo ng mabuti ang bibliya ayon talaga sa pagkakasulat at hindi putol-putolin, tapos ang negosyo nila.

  • TwiggyRamirez

    “The blacklist included: Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana; Cardinal Tarsicio Bertone of Italy; Cardinal Dominik Duka of Czech Republic; Cardinal Norberto Rivera Carrera of Mexico; Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga of Honduras; Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York; Cardinal Donald Wuerl of Washington; Cardinal Sean O’Malley of Boston; Cardinal Angelo Scola of Italy; Cardinal Leonardo Sandri of Argentina; Cardinal George Pell of Australia; and Cardinal Marc Ouellet of Quebec, Canada.”

    …sana may magpaskil din ng tarpaulin ng listahan ng mga pedopilyang pari, kardinal at obispo dito sa atin.

    • OleSapra aka ARGUS

       Para ito sa “dirty dozen” blacklisted cardinals:

      “The road of the wicked, however, is dark as night. They fall, but cannot see what they have stumbled over.” – Proverbs 4:19

    • spider69

      just wait & see. baka yan ang gawin panlaban ng mga Senador na favor sa RH. may poster din sila ng mga Obispo at pari na may arbor na Pajero. mga paring nanunulot ng asawa nang may asawa. mga nang momolestiya ng mga altar boys. how big kaya ang poster ng mga senador na ito.

  • White24

    NO TO TEAM PATAY!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    Scripture Alone Disproves “Scripture Alone – Bible Theory” – BORN AGAIN FALLACY
    John 20:30; 21:25 – Jesus did many other things not written in the Scriptures. These have been preserved through the oral apostolic tradition and they are equally a part of the Deposit of Faith.
    Acts 8:30-31; Heb. 5:12 – these verses show that we need help in interpreting the Scriptures. We cannot interpret them infallibly on our own. We need divinely appointed leadership within the Church to teach us.
    Acts 15:1-14 – Peter resolves the Church’s first doctrinal issue regarding circumcision without referring to Scriptures.
    Acts 17:28 – Paul quotes the writings of the pagan poets when he taught at the Aeropagus. Thus, Paul appeals to sources outside of Scripture to teach about God.
    1 Cor. 5:9-11 – this verse shows that a prior letter written to Corinth is equally authoritative but not part of the New Testament canon. Paul is again appealing to a source outside of Scripture to teach the Corinthians. This disproves Scripture alone.
    1 Cor. 11:2 – Paul commends the faithful to obey apostolic tradition, and not Scripture alone.

    • GKLer

      Incorrect interpretations.  Paste the actual verses, don’t add your interpretations, read it as it appears – that’s how the Bible is used.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    Let it be known!!!

     

    Protestantism: A Man-made Religion

     

    2 Peter 2:1- “But there were also false prophets among the
    people, even as there shall be among you lying teachers, who shall bring in
    sects of perdition, and deny the Lord who bought them: bringing upon themselves
    swift destruction.”

     

    There are thousands of different denominations today, all of
    them non-Catholic. Even the founding fathers of Protestantism could not agree
    on major doctrinal points. Thus, the bad fruits of there man-made religion is
    manifested in all this doctrinal chaos within the Protestant communities.

     

    The Catholic Church is the one, true Church established by
    Jesus Christ. Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation.

     

    Protestantism is indeed a man-made religion for does not
    have Christ as its founder, but man who rebelled against our Lord’s Church and
    broke from it.

     

    • boyod

      mxsclx, lagyan mo nang ROMAN ang catholic church para malaman mo na hindi si JESUS CHRIST and nag established KUNDI  Mga Romano NA katulad ni Damaso. At bakit sino ang nag papako kay JESUS CHRIST, Protestante ba? “YOU HIPOKRITO” 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        you dont know about catholics so your ignorance is good to your mouth like your pastor!

        It not the protestant kasi wala pang protestante noon araw! pinanganak lang kayo ng demonyo nun time ni martin luther.

        read your history well. tanong mo maigi pastor mo!

      • johnlagrimas

        …walang protestante pero kaugali n’yo ang nagpapako kay Hesus, ‘yung palaging namumuna ng mali at gumagawa ng mali gaano man kabuti ang ginagawa ni Hesus.  Di ba ‘yun ang training ninyo, magbasa ng bibiya para hanapan ng gusot ang Katoliko.  Nakakaawa nga kayo e, sa totoo lang!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PYGLPYCIHV4RRCYCRWR5XNGJ6Y Sarrah

    BUMATO ANG SIYANG WALANG KASALANAN…….

    • boyod

      kaya nga nag bingi-bingahan ang mga cardinal ayaw bumato  sa mga rapist priests kasi kung babatohi8n nya ay baka babatohin din siya, ha ha ha “I laughed till i cried” 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PYGLPYCIHV4RRCYCRWR5XNGJ6Y Sarrah

    Libong taon na ang nakakaraan isang puno ang tumubo at namunga ng hitik at matamis na bunga.ito ay pilit binabato,dinadapoan ng insekto ay d parin nagbabago sa pamumunga may mga ilang bunga na napipiste at ngangalaglag pero de sapat para mangamba ang may ari.
    para sa mga CHRISTIANO KATOLIKO,magpakatatag at huwag e entertain ang mga dyablo.GOD BLESS CATHOLIC CHRISTIANS.

    • peach black

      do you think pedophile priests should be coddled and protected by the Catholic Church?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        They are not protected. The accuser can file a criminal charges anytime they want against the priest or bishop! 

        Criminal charges are not covered by the Catholic Church!

        But still though there are errors of the faithful of the Catholic Church most significantly the priests and bishops, the divinity and infallibility of the Catholic Church which the Lord had established still remain. Why, because the Lord said so! …even the gates of the hell will not prevail against it… I ll be with you even until the end of the world!

        This is Christ saying and it is the Truth! People can sin but not His Church! 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      Erring Catholics are liable for their sins too. Be it an ordinary person, a priest or a bishop. That they need to repent from their sins in order to be saved. 

      Non-Catholics suffer more and are condemned since they are not part of the Church the Lord had established!

      • foreignerph

        Non-catholics suffer less since they don’t have to squeeze their brain believing into 2 full-gods (father, spirt), a demigod (JC) and a quarter-god (Maria) and then seriously state this is monotheism.

        Non-catholics suffer less since they don’t have to believe that plotting the morning temperature of a women by a certified thermometer on graduated paper and then doing a complex regression analysis is “natural”, and a simple piece of latex isn’t.

        The time you spend on this forum trolling in all possible threads, filling it with relifreakish BS, shows you have not much spare brain left ;-)

      • johnlagrimas

        …your descriptions of the Catholics reveal that indeed you have no brain! So shut up ignorant fool!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        I believe you coz that was what your pastor told you. 

        You even like heretics and gnostics! 

        Have you asked your pastor the birthdate of your faith? When it was created by another pastor?

  • kismaytami

    Dugyot dozen.

  • Mattino2011

    Pag na pili isa diyan..tapos na..Vatican..

  • Leo Paras

    Same old banana. As one historian has written of the medieval Rome…………. “The luxury profligacy, and crime of of this age is beyond the descriptive power of letters”………… And considering the claimed or self assumed “infallibility” of this church of this “Sin City” nothing has changed or will change. Same old banana

  • gayyelahe

    Congratulations Philippines: Congratulations Tagle, wala ka sa listahan!!!

  • ronsmac

    piliin ang dapat…! kaya nga nag resign nalang c pope natin kc mga walang kwenta ung mga bishop…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MZOKC6X7Q52Z4E5VLYNB7GF72Y Kaloy

    Thanks God I haven’t seen the name TAGLE among the listed names. Bakit kaya? Dahil bago pa?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      That list is none sense. Do you know what is in the mind of our Lord? 

      The apostles confide each other and asked for the Holy Spirit to guide them in the selection of the replacement of Judas.

      This, the cardinals will do the same and will ask the Holy Spirit to guide them to select the next pope. Only God knows who will be the next pope!

      • rjimenez1226

        siguradong ikaw ay kninamumuhian ng diyos dahil sa yung kaululonam.

  • http://www.facebook.com/selana.heussaff Selana Heussaff

     TAGLE is more appropriate for papacy

    • foreignerph

      With the many abuses of the church in the PH, like sabotaging  for 15 years a much needed RH bill and still opposing a much needed divorce bill on the political level and by blackmail, Tagle has no real chance, normally spoken.

      Be careful what you wish for. Till now the PH church abuses are not widely known. With Tagle as pope, the world will focus on them.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        priest and bishops may repent for their sins and be saved! 

        while you a heretic, you are condemned to suffer eternal damnation!

      • Karabukov

        Judge not lest ye be judged. Matthew 7:1

      • rjimenez1226

        ikaw ang unang malulublob sa impyerno. sanverguezangulol!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        (Rev 22:14-15)

        14 Blessed are those who wash their robes,[e] so that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter the city by the gates. 

        15 Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.Falsehood? Heretics included!

  • Yobhtron

    Dapat palitan na ang kanilang pangalan sa “PEDOPHILE PRIESTS CATHOLIC CHURCH”!   Tutal sex offenders karamihan ang mga matataas opisyales nila. Mahirap na baka meron pang pedophile bishop ang maging santo papa.

  • Ron

    well, that list augurs well for the man of the hour, our very own, His Eminence Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle… di kaya sya ang tinitukoy sa bibliya na bituin na taga Far East sa Holy Bible na may mahalagang tungkulin or misyon?

    ang isa sa mga di magandang trait sa ating mga Pinoy ay sadyang ang iba ay malilikot mag-isip, mostly without basis at napakahilig manghila ng paa ng mga kapwa nila na umaangat sa buhay..tandaan natin na si Cardinal Tagle ay tulad ng ibang mga kababayan natin who cultivated virtues within themselves such as disiplina, pagsusumikap, humility and has clean and clear intentions to serve, according to their respective career or vocation ika nga…tignan muna sa salamin ang ating mga sarili bago tayo manghusga ng ibang tao…sinong tao ba ang tunay na walang kasalanan? think before you click ika nga ng GMA 7!

  • johnlagrimas

    Jesus was accused of being possessed by Beelzebul by the Pharisees and those who did not believe on Him.  Simple as that, unbelievers attacked the believing Church.   

  • johnlagrimas

     

    Irrefutable truths: by Rizal Manalo

     

    1) There’s not one protestant Church [ including born again christians,
    etc.] – the protestants keep dividing. It only goes to show that their
    doctrines are not solid, their teachings are dependent on the moods of the ‘leader’
    and their spirituality bends with the wind.

     

    2) Those who left the Catholic Church are disgruntled people who did
    not really

    understand their faith either because they did have the brains for it
    or they did not receive the grace or they found it difficult to live by its
    teachings. So to justify their wrong doings they left the Church and either put
    up their own or joined those who were willing to condone with their wrong
    doings.

     

    3) Only the Catholic Church has withstood all the challenges and tests
    of times. It has remained THE One, Holy, Apostolic, Universal Church. Whatever
    protestants say, the

    Church is the Church and no matter what their claims are, no matter how
    they attack it, the fact remains that the Catholic Church remains to have the
    biggest following, the most influential and highly respected among other big
    religious denominations. Unfortunately, it’s the small time breakaway
    protestant groups that are most angry at the Church. That’s what you call GREAT
    ENVY!

     

    4) Only to the Pope, the head of the Catholic Church – and no other
    small time, self-appointed pastor – enjoy the respect and highest esteem of all
    world leaders.

     

    5) And so in their despair to grow into not even 1% the size of the
    Catholic Church, these small time envious trying hard self-proclaimed breakaway
    protestants are dying to do everything they could to attack and put down the
    Church. Does it even create a scratch? Nah! They are only able to persuade
    those ‘Catholics’ who were never Catholics from the start.

     

    6) There have been a number of intelligent, well-known protestants and
    pastor, who after studying the faith, embraced the Catholic Church because they
    realized how stupid they had been to have embraced a religion that was only
    concocted by one or two self-proclaimed prophets’.  We have Cardinal Newman, Scott Hahn, and
    Steve Ray [to name the few].

     

    7) There are few small Christian groups who are not‘attackers’ of
    faith. While they may have reasons why they left the Catholic Church, they
    remain friendly and respectful. Now, that is what I call Christian– we may not
    have the same faith but we are believers of the same God – and we respect the
    way we express our faith.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      AMEN…The Church that is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow as Christ had promised!

      “I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

      The keys Our Lord gave to Peter!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    The Doctrine of Sola Scriptura Produces Bad Fruit, Namely, Division and Disunity.

    If the doctrine of Sola Scriptura were true, then it should be expected that Protestants would all be in agreement in terms of doctrine, as the Bible could not simultaneously teach contradictory beliefs. And yet the reality is that there are literally thousands (35) of Protestant sects and denominations, each of which claims to have the Bible as its only guide, each of which claims to be preaching the truth, yet each of which teaches something different from the others. Protestants claim that they differ only in non-essential or peripheral matters, but the fact is that they cannot even agree on major doctrinal issues such as the Eucharist, salvation, and justification – to name a few.

    For instance, most Protestant denominations teach that Jesus Christ is only symbolically present in the Eucharist, while others (such as Lutherans and Episcopalians) believe that He is literally present, at least to some extent. Some denominations teach that once you are “saved” you can never lose your salvation, while others believe it is possible for a true Christian to sin gravely and cease being “saved.” And some denominations teach that justification involves the Christian’s being merely declared righteous, while others teach that the Christian must also grow in holiness and actually become righteous.

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