Church-Comelec tarp war rages; poll raps readied

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The tarp war is still on.

The Commission on Elections (Comelec) is giving the diocese of Bacolod until today to get relief from the Supreme Court or face charges for refusing to take down from the facade of San Sebastian Cathedral in Negros Occidental an oversized political tarpaulin for and against certain senatorial candidates on the basis of their stand on the reproductive health (RH) law.

“If the Supreme Court doesn’t come out with anything [today], no temporary restraining order, nothing, we will proceed with the investigation. We will file, ‘motu proprio,’ (on its own initiative) charges for preliminary investigation,” Comelec Chairman Sixto Brillantes Jr. said in a briefing.

He wondered why the Church had to go to the high tribunal merely on the basis of a letter from the Comelec.

Filing of charges

“The only thing that we’ve sent so far is a letter coming from [the law department] telling them to remove it in three days,” Brillantes said. “What will they tell the SC? Anyway, let’s just see if they will be able to get relief from the court.”

But should the diocese of Bacolod fail to get one on Tuesday, Brillantes said the Comelec’s law department, headed by lawyer Esmeralda Ladra, would push through with the filing of charges for a preliminary investigation.

“These charges will not be filed in court yet… this is just for preliminary investigation by the Comelec,” he said.

On Friday, Bacolod Bishop Vicente Navarra asked the high tribunal to stop the Comelec from implementing its order to remove the controversial “Team Patay (Death) and Team Buhay (Life)” tarpaulins mounted in front of San Sebastian Cathedral in the city.

Urgent petition

Navarra sought an urgent petition for certiorari and prohibition, asking the high court to declare the Comelec order “unconstitutional and void.”

The diocese refused to take down the oversized posters, maintaining that the Comelec order was unconstitutional because it infringed on the petitioners’ freedom of expression and violated the principle of separation of Church and State.

The diocese tagged seven senatorial candidates as members of Team Patay for supporting the RH law.

They are Senators Francis Escudero, Loren Legarda and Alan Peter Cayetano, and Aurora Rep. Juan Edgardo Angara, Cagayan Rep. Jack Enrile, Bayan Muna Rep. Teddy Casiño as well as former Akbayan Rep. Risa Hontiveros.

Party-list groups Gabriela, Bayan Muna, Akbayan and Anakpawis are also on the Team Patay list.

Of the seven senatorial candidates on the Team Patay list, five belong to Team PNoy (Escudero, Legarda and Cayetano, Angara and Hontiveros), one is an independent (Casiño) and the seventh, Enrile, is with the United Nationalist Alliance (UNA).

Of the six senatorial candidates listed on Team Buhay for opposing the RH law, three belong to UNA. They are Sen. Gregorio Honasan, Rep. Joseph Victor Estrada and Rep. Mitos Magsaysay.

The other three candidates—Cynthia Villar and Senators Antonio Trillanes IV and Koko Pimentel—are with Team PNoy.

Hoping for a TRO

Ralph Sarmiento, lawyer of Navarra and the diocese, said they were hoping that the Supreme Court en banc would calendar and act on the petition to declare the Comelec order unconstitutional and to issue a temporary restraining order and/or writ of preliminary injunction this morning.

Sarmiento said the diocese took the risk of invoking the high court’s extraordinary jurisdiction because the case involved the protection of constitutional rights.

“The normal procedure is that you have to respect the hierarchy of courts where the Supreme Court is just a last resort,” he said.

Right venue

Brillantes said the the Comelec’s preliminary investigation would be the right venue for the diocese to explain its side.

In Cebu City on Sunday, Vice President Jejomar Binay said the tarpaulin could not be considered an endorsement for the candidates.

Binay noted that the candidates listed on the tarpaulin came from different parties.

“The Church is only saying (that) these are the people who voted for the RH bill,” he said.

Binay also noted that the tarpaulin did not have the words “vote for,” adding that the tarpaulin was on private property.

Wait for court response

Since the Church has brought the matter to the Supreme Court, Binay said it would be better to wait for the high court’s decision.

Binay was in Cebu to attend the 43rd birthday celebration of the Cebu CFI Community Cooperative on Sunday. He was the keynote speaker. With him were Magsaysay and former Sen. Dick Gordon.

In the same Comelec briefing, Ladra said her office would issue subpoenas to Piston Land Transportation Coalition Inc. and the Kabataan party-list group over their alleged failure to take down illegal posters despite a notice from the election body.

“We are now preparing for the subpoenas to be sent,” Ladra told reporters.

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  • ajca82

    Can’t wait to find out whether the SC will touch this issue, whether the private property alibi will hold, and if the private property thing is valid, will candidates start using their buildings as giant billboards.
    I pray to their god that the SC will support the Comelec if it decides to jump into the fray.

  • srvnts

    Brillantes should be ashamed of what he’s doing, becoming a puppet of the administration harassing freedom of expressions of those are against its immoral laws.  Much more he is making mockery of the Church the Lord Christ Himself founded.  At the end, this actions would haunt him the rest of his life.

    • reddfrog

      Oh puleeze. Freedom of expression? Hypocrites

    • joerizal

      The church wants to stymie people from making their own decisions on reproductive health. In effect, muzzling them. Who’s stomping on this freedom of expression now?

    • scolexx

      is it not Christ himself said that if someone takes your tunic, let him have your cloak as well? tarpaulin lang to dba? Nah, Christ didn’t found catholic church. He will disown your bishops and priests come judgment day. they’re the ones shameless.

    • 33Sambuang2

      there is a separation of church and state and this arrogant bishop has nothing else to do. you should discipline your pedophile and maniac priests instead of meddling into politics. how much money have they spent to cover up the wrong doings of their priests? millions of dollars. how many of you bishops were given suv by gma? you are hypocrites…

  • Jane Tan

    \infringed on the petitioners’ freedom of expression and violated the principle of separation of Church and State.\

    Whoah… What a big hypocrite. He’s using “separation of Church and State” so that he can violate “separation of Church and State” hahahahaha

    \infringed on the petitioners’ freedom of expression and violated the principle of separation of Church and State.\

    Lol… I wonder what would happen if private houses in Makati started putting up LP posters?

  • frudo

    kalimutan muna natin ang argumento sa relihiyon, ipagpalagay nalang natin na iisa lang ang paniniwala natin, ang tanong tama ba na ilagay mo sa tarpulin ang team patay vs team buhay? dahil ba sumuporta sila sa rh bill ay team patay na sila, may mga pinatay na ba sila? di ba mga leader sila ng simbahan at dapat na maging magandang  halimbawa? magandang halimbawa ba ang maging mapanghusga? bakit di sila maglagay din ng team magnanakaw  ayun mas malapit pa sa katotohanan,

  • julymorning

    MGA ABNOY TALAGA ITONG MGA TAGA COMELEC!!! PINAGDISKITAHAN PA ANG SIMBAHAN NA NAGSASABI LANG NAMAN NG TOTOO AT GINAGAWA KANILANG OBLIGASYON. DI KATULAD NG MGA WALAND SILBI AT NAGPAPAYAMAN LANG NA MGA TAGA COMELEC NA PIANPALUSOT LAHAT ANG PARTY LIST LALO NA PAG MAYAYAMAN. MGA HUNGHANG TALAGA!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    TEAM PEDOPAYL mga obispo

  • superpilipinas

    He-he-he. Walang mangyayari sa kasong yan. Wala na ngang oras ang Comelec, pinagaaksayahan pa nila itong kalokohan.

    Dapat nilang habulin yung mga kandidato.

  • ThudOthwacker

    Are we a in a police state now?

    What is the violation? If I put a sign at “MY” frontage, with names who to vote and not. 
    Funded by “MY” own money and posted on “MY” wall.  

    I don’t see any logical reason for comelec’s action. This is a pure harassment. Brillantes is over acting and over stepping his role. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/AIYSIJJOL4JNRLHXVTGUH3NYHM The Overlord

      It’s the size. COMELEC didn’t say they could not place a sign, but c’mon, it didn’t have to be that huge.

      • ThudOthwacker

        Big or small is still the same. The reason can be attribute to the negative impact to the administration candidates.

        If Brillantes really is for fair play. He should prevent Aquino campaigning for his candidates. He is the president of all Filipinos and not just to Liberal party members. Plus every time he moves cost.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/AIYSIJJOL4JNRLHXVTGUH3NYHM The Overlord

        LOL, of course not. Aquino is the head of the Liberal Party. Did you see the “COMELEC” of the US stopping Obama from campaigning just because he is the incumbent president? Everyone in the government are primarily political subjects. That’s the reason why Congress is not in session: the campaign period. If we follow your line of thinking, Binay shouldn’t campaign, too. And also Enrile, the re-electionist Senators and Representatives, and almost everyone else for that matter.

  • rodben

    Panahon ni Tita Cory ang gulo ng gobyerno ngayon panahon ng anak mas lalong magulo madali kasing masilaw mga butante ng pera at promises…tyak sa susunod  iboto nyo si Jhusua pag tumakbong pangulo …. mag isip2 naman kyo mga kabayan..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

      Teka lang Sis o Brod o Sis-Brod! Sa tarpaulin ang problema…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/5ME7HXULKPA63PIZQBBJYSF43A Mary

        hahaha…naligaw si rodben

      • frudo

        uu ligaw nga hahahah napunta sa showbiz

    • frudo

      eh kailan ba natahimik ang gobryerno natin sige sabihin mo kung kailan panahon? panahon nino? start tyo kay marcos, tahimik ba? cory, ramos, erap, gma,   tahimik ba gobyerno natin ng mga panahon nila? wait ka nalang ng 3 taon pa at iboto mo ang gusto mong maging presidente ng bansa, wag ka magalala di si jhosua ang kakandidato,  si PACMAN, 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AIYSIJJOL4JNRLHXVTGUH3NYHM The Overlord

    Now the Church is invoking the Principle of Separation of the Church and State but it cannot admit to itself that harassing legislators over the RH Law is not a violation of that principle. Hypocrites indeed. The priests think they’re so beholden just because they’re clergymen. They’re not better than I am. In fact, I KNOW I am better than them, because I don’t molest little boys and I actually help poor people through charity, and not just riding in my SUV all day. I also do not have voluminous preferred shares at the Bank of the Philippine Islands.

  • UrHONOR

    KASUHAN na kaagad ang nga TNL na yan!  Pinaiikot-ikot lamang ang mga tao ng mga yabags na yan sa kung ano-anong ka-echosang pinalalabas….ke ganito at ke ganuon, tapos UNAng-UNAng hindi marunong makisama sa pagsunod sa saligang batas.  Free-loaders na, nagsisiga-sigaan pa….at ginagamit pa si Papa na sa Roma para panangga sa kabulastugang pinaggagawa masabi lang na kwela sila sa tao…habang tinatago si Mama, nanghahalay ng mga bata, at nanggagatas ng baka ng may baka.  Really exasperating to see this happening.

    Ang natutuwa lamang sa gaintong mga pangyayari na nagkakaroon ng konting gusot sa kapaligiran ay yong mga Lugaw commandos ni Mike Alolong sa boiler room.  Basta’t may makikitaang hindi mabuting pangyayari, naka-kumpol na ng parang mga bangaw na sumasapaw sa e chas ng kalabaw. Sa kabilang dako, mabuti na din naman yon dahil lalong tumitingkad ang PUTI sa tabi ng ITIM.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

    Bakit ang taga simbahan ay nakikialam sa gobyerno? Kapag ako nagalit isusumbong ko na ang mga ito sa Papa… Oppss! pasalamat sila wala pang Papa…

    • UrHONOR

      E di kay Mama! :)

      • walaeh

        hahahaha

    • frudo

      hahahahah nadale mo

  • Castronaut

    hindi dapat mangialam ang simbahan sa pagkampanya, dapat ang tinuturo nila ang magparaya at magpatawad hindi ung tuturuan pa ang mga tao na magrebelde.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/6DKQHQJVN6A6AMKBY6426FTHYQ Vanessa

      tama. hindi ko nga Rin mainTindihan ang Simbahan na to… hindi kaya nabayaran ang kanilang obispo? tandaan natin na tao din ang obispo hindi diyos.. ang tao ang makasalanan..

  • farmerpo

    Payong kapatid lamang po,  kagalang galang  na Obispo Navarra. Para walang makialam sa mga poster, ilagay sa harap ng altar tulad ng ginawa ni Mr Celdran. Tiyak, alang papalag at masasabi ninyo ang kung ano ang gusto ninyo. Make what you want imparted to your parishioner a part of your homily.

  • CarlosAcantillado

    lol whut? i laughed so hard when i read “it infringed on the petitioners’ freedom of expression and violated the principle of separation of Church and State.” soooo its called freedom of expression now when you try to manipulate the masses who blindly follow anyone to not vote and vote for the people you want? AND when you get pressured you call separation between church and state? i dont know whether i want to cry or simply just kill you people for being so r3tarded. now you call that out? so what your doing isnt meddling in political affairs? god you give all the catholics a bad name. i bet somewhere out there God and Jesus are face palming because of your stup!dity  

    • SelenaKatayama

      i know right? and it doesnt end there.. you can tell they’re trying to spread lies about the RH bill by calling it team buhay and patay.. pero wala naman patay sa RH bill

      • TinaCarunungan

        i dont think thats the worse of it. you can always educate the people about the bill.. its more on how they’re pusing for their candidates which is a obvious political move. do you think anyone in their right mind would tell you to vote for Cynthia Villar? after she called out the nursing students? do i really want to vote for someone like that? but then again thats the church for you! they rather take in stupid people who dont question them when it comes to their teachings. they like the quiet followers where they can feel their power over them

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

    Noong nakaraan administrasyon ni GMA ay masyadong sunod sa layaw ang mga taga simbahan. Dahil obispo sila ay hindi nahihiyang humingi ng birthday gift kay GMA ng SUV. Ito namn si GMA dahil relioyosa, kuno, ay nagnanakaw ng pera sa kita ng PCSO para may pangregalong SUV 4×4 pa sa mga sunod sa layaw na mga obispo… Sa pagkakasabatas ng RH Bill napahiya sila, kaya ayan nagpuputok ang mga butse ng mga obispo…

    • UrHONOR

      OO nga,  relihiyosa: yong kanang kamay namimigay habang yong kaliwa ay nagungupit. Pareho lang ng ginagawa ng mga nakasayang-puti :)

  • EdgarEdgar

    For Comelec, this is a tarp war. For the church, this is a turf war. Never the twain shall meet.

  • JamesCarag

    the church is too used to being pampered.. you can tell. they always got their way back then and as soon as na pahiya sila nun na pass yung RH bill REVENGE agad yung na sa utak nila. kitang kita. ano freedom of expression dian? your campaigning candidates and dissing others. you should feel ashamed of yourselves

    • DanielMarquez

      dapat sumali yung church sa american idol judge panel.. kasama si nicki minaj at si mariah carey… DIVA din yung mga priest at bishop eh

  • brunogiordano

    “In Cebu City on Sunday, Vice President Jejomar Binay said the tarpaulin could not be considered an endorsement for the candidates.”

    Maliwanag na ang UNA ay maka-DAMASO.

    Kakampi,at kapanalig ng mga OBISPO ang mga corrupt na tao.

    • frudo

      di maglagay din ng TEAM MAGNANAKAW   para di halatang may endorsement fair ang laban,, TEAM PATAY VS TEAM MAGNANAKAW,    mas patas mas malapit sa katotohanan di ba?

  • for_Prosperity

    Ang dapat na itinuturo ng simbahan ay maging mabubuting tao ang ating mga opisyales ng gobyerno dahil napakarumi na ng pulitika sa ating bansa at karamihan sa mga nakaupo ay greedy at corrupt.

    Dapat ay isa-isahin ng simbahan ang mga taong ito at basbasan at baka sakaling ma-cast out nila ang evil spirits na nakapaloob sa mga taong greedy at corrupt sa ating pamahalaan, mula sa pinakamababa hanggang sa pinakamataas na posisyon sa ating gobyerno.

    Araw-araw nyo dapat basahan ng Bibliya ang ating Senado at Kongreso at paliguan silang lahat ng Holy Water!

  • for_Prosperity

    Pwede bang gawin na lang sampu (10) ang bilang ng mga Senador para makatipid tayo sa korapsyon? Tutal ay napakarami na nating batas at karamihan sa mga batas na ito ay walang silbi. Tanggalin na ang mga Congressman dahil meron na namang Gobernador at Mayor.

    Mga mahal naming Obispo, ano po ang palagay nyo sa aking suggestions?

    • UrHONOR

      KUNG maaari ISA na nga lang: Ted CASIÑO :)

      • frudo

        abolish nalang senate wag ng magtira,

      • UrHONOR

        PARA wala ng PROBLEMA, abolish na ang PILIPINAS.  Lipat na ang lahat sa Sabah!  :)

      • frudo

        hahahaha, abolish na rin ang forum na to para wala na rin tayo dito hehehe

      • UrHONOR

        MAS magaling, kabayan, ABOLISH na ang mundo para mawala ang lahat ng gulo at magkaroon ng katahimikan sa UNIVERSE natin.  At kung papayag ang majority, kayang-kayang gawin yan ni Mike A.

      • frudo

        hahahaha pede rin kakapagod na sa mundo eh

      • UrHONOR

        ANG nakikita ko lamang na problema sa TNL na annihilation theory na yan ay ang CBCP.  Tiyak na mag-o-object na naman ang mga TNL na yan dahil mahirap nga naman tapusin ang naaaaapakarangyang buhay sa daigdig nila at sa mga tronong kinaluklukan nila.

    • frudo

      dapat nga wla na eh wala namang silbi, may congress nman tayo abolish na ang senate, sayang lang ang ninanakaw nila, 

  • http://www.facebook.com/danilo.navarro.946 Danilo Navarro

    hinihirit ng mga supsuobispo ang freedom of expression and the separation of church and state naiintindihan ba nila ito o ayaw lang intendihin ..ok tapos na ang HR BILL..naisa batas na dapat tigilan na nila ito bakit patuloy pa ilang tinutulan ito sabi nila separation of church and state ano na itong ginagawa nila..freedom of expression naman may edinimanda sila at makakalabos dahil njag freedom of expression yung tao pag sila ba pwedi pag iba di pwedi..ano ba yan

  • MULEN

    The COMELEC under the leadership of Chairman Sixto Brillantes has been doing remarkable job in reforming our electoral process specifically in its drive to eliminate unqualified Party list groups. The bishop should realize that the COMELEC is not the enemy but an ally in ensuring that only qualified candidates/party list groups are to participate in the election. 

  • dickenhead

    TAX the bastards

    • UrHONOR

      HINDI naman lahat yan ay bastards….meron din namang ligitimate! :)  

      Sabi pa ng isang Morning Glory of the Sunset na naka-sayang puti, “Oy, kwidaw…. keyrpul wid yur lenguweyds…..mama mary is watching you….do you want to go “down” there? :)

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002659434378 Silvino Modesto

         ….yes, not all clergies are bastards, but they should be taxed….there must be an amendment of the constitution….there will never be a separation between church and state because these stupid clergies had been going into government activities and issues ever since, so what’s the logic of separation (church and state)????….

      • UrHONOR

        NO doubt about that, i.e., TAXATION, considering the abuses and excesses of the church people in their role as spiritual leaders that is more material now than anything else.  They have lost their moral ascendancy long time ago as they fail to make adjustments to the march of time.

        The law on the Separation of Church and State is about legislation. The government will not pass laws that will run conflict with the church and the church likewise will not make laws that will be in conflict with the state.  That is the essence of the separation.  As regards the physical political activities participated by the church, what governs it is the moral stand of the church regarding issues THE MEN in WHITE deem it should be concerned about.  But in reality the sanamagans are poking their fingers where they don’t belong, as there are more to be poked in their own decaying and deteriorating moribund yards than elsewhere.

        TAX?  Ngayon na din po!

      • JoelV721

        Iyan din ang paniniwala ko.  Kawawa naman ang maraming pari na nadaramay tuloy dahil sa damasoic attitude ng ilan sa mga pari at obispo sa kasalukuyang panahon.

      • UrHONOR

        Hindi lang ILAN, kabayan, ang dami-dami nila.  Nung bumiyahe lamang ako nitong nakaraan, may nakilala akong pari na ang parish daw nya dati ay sa Alabang, tapos nalipat siya sa bicol.  Naka civilian siya at ni walang Roman Collar na nagpapahiwatig na pari siya.  Tapos, may kasamang tsika na bata sa kanya ang itusra, maganda, at mala-artistahin ang hubog ng wankata.  Magkatabi sila sa eroplano.  At magka-holding hands sila.  Na sa kabilang asile seat ako.  Una kong akala, mag-ama o gold digger yong babae.  Yon pala, mag-syota.  Ang lakas uminom nung pari (parian) at kung maka-ankla sa babae, e, parang marinong sampung taong nawala sa dagat.

        Yong isa namang pinakilala sa aking pari din, habitue ng gay bar sa Retiro pagkagat ng dilim.  Marami pa akong mababanggit pero sapat na yong sabihin kong MARAMING-MARAMI ang nagtatago sa closet na mga paring yan.  Tapos sa loob ng seminaryo o convento, nahihirapan silang sugpuin ang tawag ng kalikasan sa laman nat sila-sila, lalakwe-sa-lalakwe ang nagpapanganaan.   Salaula, pero mapapaniwala mo ba ang na-uuto nila na sila ay hindi “banal”?  Mahirap…dahil hawak-na-hawak nila sa leeg ang karamihan simula pa lang ng bininyagan sila ng wala nilang pahintulot ilang araw pa lang ng kanilang pagkapanganak.

        Yan ang takbo ng ating panahon at para hindi tayo malito at mahirapan unawain ang mga panguayari….sa halip na ipikit na lang nating ang ating mga mata at sumunod na parang tuta sa mga TNL na yan na apaw-apaw ang problema pang personal, GAMITIN natin ang ating sentido komon at doon sa mga bagay na sinasabing TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, mag-isip na makailang ulit bago magpapaniwala.

  • UrHONOR

    MAY katwiran yong nagsabing talagang na-iba na ang patakbo ng simbahan mula ng nalahi-an ng mga bakla ang samahan na ayaw magladlad….nakahiligan na ang magpa-bongga sa publiko para masabing maka-masa sila para mapagtakpan ang mga ginagawa nilang milagro sa likod ng simbahan.  Ang altar na sinasamba nila ay altar ng POWER, AUTHORITY, and MONEY.  Ang malaking mag-LAGAY sa coffer or basket ng collection ay tinitingala at pinapasinayaan ng special hymn, “This special hymn is in honor of Sen Bukol who has given a generous amount for the maintenance and management of our dear, dear church!” PSHAW! Tapos yong nagbigay ng PhP5.00 na nanggaling sa pagod at pawis, hindi sa pangungupit, ay iirapan lang at di bibigyan ng kahit anong pansin.  Malaking pagbabago na talaga.  O tempora! O mores!

    Kaya ngayon, ang makabagong rebulto nila ay yong mga kandidatong makakapiho silang magagatasan nila para sa maintenance ng kanilang lifestyle a la the rich and famous.  Ikaw ng mag-sayang puti!

  • Hey_Dudes

    This is an opportune time to get the message through these truculent members of the catholic church.  There is separation between church and state they should be wary and cognizant of the state expecting their recognition of this clause.  They sent someone to jail for the same reason therefore, if they will not remove their propaganda, someone in church need to go to jail as well.

  • josesantos318

    i go to the church to pray, and i pray direct to God.  the church is a holy place thus i feel i can sense the presence of God there instead of at home or elsewhere.   i dont go there to attend a mass, i dont believe the priest has been delegated by god to be the middleman.  i dont even believe in confession, that the priest can forgive your sins.  what the hell, for all u know , the priest i am confessing or celebrating the mass might be a pedophile.
    these posters about “buhay” and “patay” is messing up my going to church.  not only is the clergy politicizing the church, but they are demonizing it.
     the church leader has to get their acts together, their biggest problems now are the scandals that is making the church a laughing stock, with the financial and molestation issues now always at the front pages of the newspapers.
    the pope resigned not because he was tired or old or because god wanted him to resign.
    he resigned because the molestation charges against the clergy is now in the united nation tribunal, and the pope is going to be asked to shed light on it because when he was still a cardinal, he tried to suppress all information from the lower curia about these cases.
    thus, so as not to drag the church, being seated in the highest position of the church, he resigned so that when he is asked to answer charges, he goes to the UN as an ordinary person anymore, not the head of the catholic church.
    in other words, the pope was “forced to resign”.

    • Marion Pempeña

      josesantos318, i’m the same. I’m very spiritual but I don’t attend Catholic services. But we’re not really Catholics anymore you know :p

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W7TPARCYJFCSA3PBQAM3MVZO3E kurakut

      RAH RAH RAH SIS BOOM BA! 101% RIGHT AND AGREED. KEEP UP!

    • johnlagrimas

      In that manner of going to church…no wonder you have that kind of “heart” – barren, full of negative emotions like hatred and anger – what a pity!

  • quirinomayer

    According to the thinking of Padre Damaso, when you hit the Catholic Church and its clergy, you cannot invoke freedom of expression. Look at what happened to Carlos Celdran and Mideo Cruz. Now, if a Catholic clergyman like Bishop Navarra violates a law in this case the election regulations on posters, it is in exercise of freedom of expression.

    Padre Damaso thinks he is above the law. Comelec, teach him a lesson. 

    • UrHONOR

      AGREE!  Eunuchize them to end pedophile in the ranks.

    • stanley park

      IHULOG SA BALKONAHE KAGAYA NI PADRE DAMASO…HEHEHE

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W7TPARCYJFCSA3PBQAM3MVZO3E kurakut

    TO CARLOS CELDRAN:  PANAHON NA PARA BUMAWI. SUMAKAY KA KAY BRILLIANTES!

  • Janch

    In Cebu City on Sunday, Vice President Jejomar Binay said the tarpaulin could not be considered an endorsement for the candidates. 
    Binay noted that the candidates listed on the tarpaulin came from different parties.  “The Church is only saying (that) these are the people who voted for the RH bill,” he said.
    Binay also noted that the tarpaulin did not have the words “vote for,” adding that the tarpaulin was on private property.

    Etong namang malignong ito oo, kinakampihan pa ang mali.  
    E paano kung ang anak niya namang si Abigail Binay (na bumoto pabor sa rh bill) ang gawan din ng malaking karatola na kasapi sa team patay di ba siya aangal?

  • johnlagrimas

    Go Bacolod Diocese!  Don’t mind the bloggers here who are self-righteous,
    proud, arrogant,fault-finders because we know they are the most lonely, pitiful and unhappy
    people in the world…so sad they only see the mud, filth, and the ugly
    …and this is what we can find inside their hearts. 

    • wakats

      “so sad they only see the mud, filth, and the ugly” – the ugliness and filth of the Vatican as exposed in the “Vatileaks” and the book of Gianluigi Nuzzi entitled “His Holiness: the Secret Papers of Benedict XVI” consisting of stolen confidential letters and memos of Pope Benedict XVI and his personal secretary,  portraying the Vatican as a hotbed of jealousy, intrigue and underhanded factional fighting – and alleged corruption, abuse of power, money laundering, and abnormal sexual orientation.  
      Paolo Gabriele, the Pope’s personal butler and source of Nuzzi’s information, who was convicted of aggravated theft, testified in his trial that he gave the documents to Nuzzi because he can’t withstand anymore the “years of lies and manipulation by the church” 

    • TheHappyAgnostic

      self-projection?

    • stanley park

       john lagrimas is looking in the Church’s reflection in the mirror….that is what the Church is ….proud, arrogant, fault-finder and self-righteous….

      • UrHONOR

        Eksakli to a TEE!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/276L22SZM5ZUQGV24IL4ZEF6UA Edward

      tama po kau..kasi karamihan nmn ditto mga kulto, anti-Catholic na wlang ginawa kundi sawsaw ng sawsaw, manira ng Inang Simbahan..

      .fyi, gumagastos nga sila ng milyon milyon para mag maintain ng tv stations, anti catholic magazines/propaganda like pasugo, watchtower para makabingwit at makapanloko ng mga kawawang Katoliko..

      • frudo

        sila ang sumisira sa sarili nila,  di na kailangan sirain pa, panahon pa ni Rizal ganyan na sila hangang ngayon. ang mga kawawang Filipino na tinatakot nila na gamit ang pangalan ng Dios ay naging alipin at uto uto sa kanila, 

      • UrHONOR

        URINATING against the wind.  Yan ang mga malasadong kaTOLik…lmga nagpapanggap na kaTOLik, pero sa katotohanan, malamang na mga lamplighters yan at sinisiraan ang mga katoliko na kitang-kita mo sa tabas ng mga pananalita…..kung ano-anong mga sapantaha ang ginagawa sa kanilang kapwa na wala sa tema hindi lamang ng Catholicism kundi ng Christianity pa.  

        Magkakakalkal ng basura tapos magrereklamo kung bakit mabaho….trabaho ba ng matinong tao yan?  Kahit na sabihin pang bakla ang gumagawa….madali din namang bakla ng marunong mangusap at husto sa isip.  Sadyang totoo yong sinasabing, “in every forest, you’d find a snake”.

      • frudo

        at yung mga ahas sa grupo nila yun ang nakakasira sa kanila kaya nadadamay ang relihiyon, tarpulin lang yan pero mababasa mo dito sa forum pati ibang sect or relihiyon nadadamay, kung manahimik nlang sila at di na sumawsaw pa sa pulitika eh di sana wala problema,

      • UrHONOR

        YAN yong mga gustong magpalabas na sila ay KAWAL ng kanilang damasing na sa bawat na makita nilang HINDI TAMA ayon sa katiting nilang kaisipan, NAMAMARIL na KAAGAD ng walang tanong-tanong.  Pinalulutang nila na walang dapat na makapgsabi ng kahit na anong AYAW nilang marinig o mabasa dahil magkakasala sila….habang yong pinagtatanggol nila ay nanghahalay ng mga bata, nangungupit sa basket, nanggagatasng baka ng mga baka, nag-ma-mahjong, at kung ano-ano pang mga gawaing hindi lamang hindi maka-kristiano, bagkus, hindi maka-tao.

  • virgoyap

    Didn’t Binay see that what the Bishop did is already an endorsement or he just wants to please the Bishop? Hayyyy! Politics!!!

  • stanley park

    BULLIES IN ROBES….  Lead by Example…you cannot follow a simple rule on Campaign Poster size…. and btw, look who is showing arrogance and being self-righteous?  Maybe john lagrimas is looking in the Church’s reflection in the mirror – proud, arrogant, fault-finder, self-righteous..

  • stanley park

    BINAY  is making fools out of Filipinos. A CHECK after a candidate’s name is synonymous with an endorsement… Oh come on…., the bottom line here is …THE CHURCH SHOULD LEAD BY EXAMPLE..FOLLOW RULES…. campaign poster size lang di makasunod……di daw endorsement….SINONG NILOLOKO NYO?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/276L22SZM5ZUQGV24IL4ZEF6UA Edward

    o brillantes may sagot na sa tanong nyo.. nagpalabas na ng tro ang SC laban sa kahibanagan nyo…hindi nmn kami tanga bilang legitimate voters para d naming makita na may nag pressure sa inyo kung bakit ganun nlng ang pagdiskita nyo sa tarpaulin na yan…ang tanda nyo na sa pagiging election lawyer d nyo pa rin maintindihan na karapatan ng Simbahan kung ano mn ang gawing paggabay ng kanilang nasasakupan..at hwag nyo ihintulad sa mga mandarambong na mga nag aagawan sa posisyon lalo na si Engot baraquel..

  • stanley park

    “The diocese refused to take down the oversized posters, maintaining that the Comelec order was unconstitutional because it infringed on the petitioners’ freedom of expression and violated the principle of separation of Church and State.’–HAHAHA, now it’s them who’s talking about separation of Church and State….e sila ang madalas nakikialam sa gobyerno…. Tax the Church….that will silent these bullies in robes,….their catholic schools are the most expensive schools around and yet , they could not offer free education to their so called “poor”…….Let them hang their tarpaulins nang madagdagan naman ang sinasabi nilang Catholic vote na non-existent…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/YSSAEMVPGS3AETKSSB7YO6QY5I bax

      It is okay for the Church to pay its taxes, by the way these Church bullies are the same bullies who run and fund its own “Home for the Aged”, “Bahay Ampunans”, and “Scholarship Programs for the Poor”. 

      Hail Stanley Park the Savior of the Philippines!

    • white scorpion

      if we tax the church, the more thay will intrude on state matters. huwag na lang, umuwi na lang sila sa vatican. tutal hindi naman sila filipino citizen eh. vatican citizen sila. citizenship alone will not give them right to interfere with filipino state matters. 
                    
      actually, their moves is a desperate move na. kita naman eh.
       

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002659434378 Silvino Modesto

    ….TO PUT THE STORY SHORT, ANG CATHOLIC CHURCH NGAYON, WALA NG MORAL AUTHORITY MANGARAL SA TAO KASI SIRANG-SIRA NA SILA SA MGA KABULASTUGANG GINAWA NI PADRE DAMASO….WALA NG NANINIWALA SA MGA SERMON NILA KASI MGA ORDINARYONG TAONG MAKASALANAN DIN NAMAN YANG MGA ESTUPIDONG YAN….BIRUIN MO, MGA PARING MAY MGA ANAK (TATLO/APAT PA ANG ANAK SA IBA-IBANG BABAE), MGA PARI NA PEDOPHILIA, MGA PARI NA MAGNANAKAW),….PWEEEE!!!!…. LAHAT SILA, THEY ARE ENVOKING THE NAME OF GOD IN THEIR EVIL DOINGS/INTENTIONS!!!!….WHAT A HELL, ON EARTH!!!!….

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/YSSAEMVPGS3AETKSSB7YO6QY5I bax

      How did you know that the Church lost its credibility? How about your credibility Silvino Modesto

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T4SWLHNUW7EP5HLD2WIXUY4ZP4 Rey

      yun ang akala mo. Catholic Chruch na lang ang lumalaban sa mga kasamaang ginagawa ng gobyerno natin ngayon yung ibang religion walang pakiaalam.

      • white scorpion

        oooow!!! hindi mo lang alam.  HOY! GISING.

  • stanley park

    one of my barkada is the son of our American Parish Priest… and the present school director , a priest is the lover of one of our teachers……my other seminarian barkada, went out of the seminary after 15 years, had 3 gfs, had 3 illegitimate sons….how about that?…This is the Team Manyak

    • white scorpion

      may partylist bang  TEAM MANYAK???? sigurado HIGH (hilo, droga) MORAL ang mga members.

  • Micashan

    the church wants to go to politics? then be a good citizen!  pay taxes!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/YSSAEMVPGS3AETKSSB7YO6QY5I bax

      We the Laymen of the Church are paying our taxes, now what Micashan?

    • muy_burritto

        I pay taxes, as an employee and business owner.  What goods do I get from the church that what I give them will be taxed?  Isn’t the money I give to the church, already reduced 30% from income taxes and 30% from business taxes? 

        If you place a tarpaulin on your house, name it “team buhayin ang Patay”, we won’t care.  If comelec harasses you, we’d be in the same line protesting your harassment. It’s your house, your rules, your rights.    The priests are my leaders and they like you, have a right to vote and tell others how they are going to vote.  Church property. 
        Bakit si Risa Hontiveros, 4 warnings lang for her blatant “Senator” fiesta posters, around the Metro on public grounds and hanggang ngayon walang kaso?  Double standards si Comelec, wala namang jurisdiction.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T4SWLHNUW7EP5HLD2WIXUY4ZP4 Rey

      pay taxes? why? government ba nagpapasweldo sa kanila? yung mga taxes nga ng mga tao na natratrabaho sa government eh ginagamit lang sa walang kwentang bagay ng mga taong nasa gobyerno natin.

  • Micashan

    mga animal! mga kagaw! mga wakwak! mga ungo! mga way dagway!  ay sus, porbida!

  • Journeys & Travels

    When the church relays their stand on some important policy of the state, bawal pero ang COMELEC, kung makadikta sa simbahan, hindi? We are old enough to know what is legal and what moral as opposed to what is not. I find no wrong of the tarpaulins and of course, unless the named candidates are howling fowl to the COMELEC. I thought they are not afraid of the Catholic vote then? 

    • Joy Lynn

      is there such thing as catholic vote?  ahahaha

      • muy_burritto

        Wala naman diba? ;-)

    • white scorpion

      the tarpulin signifies jugdment. sabi sa bible “don’t judge so …….judge”.  
                     
      AND, the pari are politiking.

  • vilmavee

    Those of you who happen to be a Catholics and have nothing better to say about the Catholic church better leave your faith. As the bible say, “it is better for you to have not been born at all”. And to those of you who are either atheist or members of other denominations, you have no business criticizing the church because you know so little about our faith. And from the boorish tone of your blogs, you show your real character, that you are not properly bred.

    To those of you who will bash me for posting this (I expect to be lynched and be feasted on by foul mouthed critics) know that you will reap all your unkindness many times over.

    • frudo

      and those obispo na nag post ng team patay   properly bred din ba sila? bakit di nalang sila manahimik para di sila natitira  nadadamay tuloy ang relihiyon na hindi naman dapat, tinitira din naman ang mga grupo ng mga atheist, at iba pang denominations ng ibang mga katoliko,( sila ba ay hindi rin properly bred) wala ka rin nman alam sa mga faith nila diba? so respetuhan nalang at walang pagbabanta,

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/YSSAEMVPGS3AETKSSB7YO6QY5I bax

        What about the Freedom of Speech? Is it exclusive to the activists and not applicable for the Clergy?

      • frudo

        nakakabit kasi sa mga obispo ang relihiyon nila eh sagrado yun diba ayon sa inyong paniniwala, so sana para wala ng madamay pa na relihiyon wag na makisawsaw pa sa pulitika, tutal ang itinuturo nman ng simbahan ay pagpapatawad, pagpaparaya, pagpapakumbaba, kahinahunan, kapayapaan,  so patawarin na ang mga sumuporta sa rh bill, wag na lagyan ng bansag na team patay, ang sakit sa mata kasi na galing yun mismo sa leader ng simbahan,  panghuhusga na yun diba? ok lang sana kung team patay lang eh kaso may team buhay pa na may ini endorso  pa, eh sino sino ba yung mga team buhay na yun? malilinis ba na tao yun? para i endorso ng mga leader ng simbahan,? 

      • white scorpion

        Malaking YES. tama ka. kaya lang, gumaganti ang mga pari.

      • UrHONOR

        THE fact na ginagamit nila ang word na PATAY…one that’s to be avoided as it conjures something unpleasant and stimulates uneasiness and anxiety of the mind, especially by those that profess peace and goodwill to all and preach wishing no evil on anyone, it only PROVES beyond DOUBT that these sanamagans are bereft of appropriate understanding of realities of present-day living, are anachronistic, egoistic, sycophantic, and sanctimonious beyond reproach….their moral ascendancy that has been waning throughout time has just gone down the septic tank.

      • UrHONOR

        NEITHER is it the MONOPOLY of the clergy or anyone else.  And like any other kind of FREEDOM, it carries with it RESPONSIBILITY and should not be abused through technicalities and other underhanded means.  Celdran?

      • white scorpion

        anong Freedom of Speech pa sinasabi mo!!!  sino ang unang hindi sumusunod sa freedom of speech??? baka kahapon mo lang nabasa ang balitang rh bill!!!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/T4SWLHNUW7EP5HLD2WIXUY4ZP4 Rey

        hindi bulag ang Catholich Church para manahimik na lang sa mga kasamaang ginagawa ng gobyerno natin. at wala namang pagbabantang ginagawa dun sa team patay at team buhay tarp.

      • UrHONOR

        HINDI nga BULAG, tama….pero diosmio, ang mga KATARATANG nag-uunahang humilata sa mga mata ng mga TNL na mga damasing ay matatanaw mo kahit na isang kilometro ka kalayo.  NONE so blind as those who refuse to see….yan ang dapat na mantra na mine-meditate ng bawat damasing.

      • white scorpion

        TUMPAK!!!!!

      • white scorpion

        wala na kasing pajero ngayon. ang babaw mo pala. hindi mo kasi makuha ang SIMPLENG ibig sabihin ng team buhay at team patay sa tarpulin ng kapari. sana tumama duon sa pari nagpaskel sa huling team  ?…?

      • UrHONOR

        KUNG properly bred sila ay very obvious na NOT.  Pero they are good breeders.

      • frudo

        kaya pala ayaw nila ng contraceptives  kasi good breeders sila

    • muy_burritto

      Amen.

    • fernan107

      catholic din ako pero hindi ibig sabihin sunodsunoran tayo sa mga pari dahil tao pa rin sila , malaki ang paniwala ko sa PANGINOON DIOS pero sa mga pari malabo dahil gusto nila ay sunodsunoran tayo sa gusto nila na hindi naman dapat……mga pari , may mga sariling pag iisip ang taong bayan….maryosep naman ka indo..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/T4SWLHNUW7EP5HLD2WIXUY4ZP4 Rey

        kung totoong katoliko ka dapat may tiwala ka din sa namumuno sayo dahil kahit tao lang sila eh sila pa rin yung binigyan ng authority ni Christ na mamuno sa Simbahang si Kristo mismo ang nagtatag.

      • white scorpion

        kasalanan din malaki ang sumunod sa taong hindi mo alam ang pagkatao, lalung lalo na tungkol sa religion. 

        tanong ko sa iyo. sigurado ka bang tama ang tinuturo ng pari sa iyo. ang kasagutan ay nakasalalay sa sariling mong pag-iisip. yan ay KUNG….. mayroon ka. alam kong sunudsunuran ka lang sa pari.

    • white scorpion

      in our society, there is a separation of CHURCH and STATE.  simply it’s because the state may have solution not favorable to the teachings of church. in case you haven’t know it yet. it is not the church can peep on state matters. while they themselves mishandled their obligation to the church where they should be concentrated.  

  • sabaw_at_kanin

    pinapakita lang ng simbahang katoliko kung gaano na sila naging bulag sa realidad ng lipunan. kapag patuloy silang  magmatigas sa kanilang posisyon sa RH, tuluyan nang guguho ang paniniwala ng karamihan sa simbahan – hindi ang paniniwala sa Dyos kundi sa simbahan. walang ibang mabuting gawin kundi kasuhan na ang mga opisyales ng simbahang iyan.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T4SWLHNUW7EP5HLD2WIXUY4ZP4 Rey

       ok yung ginagawa ng simbahang katoliko. magiging bulag lang sila kung pababayaan lang nilang magtagumpay ang kasamaan laban sa kabutihan. kailangan talaga ng mga members ng Simbahang Katolika na ipaglaban ang kagustuhan at turo ng founder na si Kristo. sa huli magtatagumpay pa din ang Kabutihan laban sa kasamaan sa tulong na rin ng mga members at leaders ng simbahang katolika.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U62PHGMKO4RK7BLMC4ACA4EG5A EREC

    Naghihintay lang ang Obispo diyan na mabigyan ng sasakyan galing sa kaban ng BAYAN! O bina blackmail lang ng diocese of Bacolod ang mga kandidatong hindi nagbigay ng PERA!!! Para hindi halata yong pag blackmail sa mga kandidato……hinati nila sa dalawa yong listahan “TEAM BUHAY(sa nagbigay na) at TEAM PATAY(sa hindi pa nagbigay)” code of litirate!!!

  • fernan107

    sumakay na naman si binay , hunyango ka talaga binay , Una ang bulsa , una ang kamaganak …same feather flocks together……ka indo naman..

  • fernan107

    binay, wala ngang nakalagay na ” vote for” pero napapanahon sa election , ano ka ba naman binay namomolitika ka lang….di bobo ang taong bayan kaya baguhin mo na ang style mo, style mo bulok…..maryosep naman ka indo…samasama na lang kayo ni erap at enrile….same feather flocks together…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T4SWLHNUW7EP5HLD2WIXUY4ZP4 Rey

      ano magagawa mo eh isinakto din naman nila sa election period ang pagpasa ng RH Bill.  Karma lang yan sa mga taong pumayag na maipasa ang Bill ni Satan.

      • white scorpion

        ginagawa na ng mga tao ang nilalaman ng RH Bill. ang pagpasa ng batas ay magbibigay daan lang sa gobiernong mangaral; magturo sa tao na SANA’Y tulong ng pari. unless, kapareho ka ng mga pari na kahapon lang pinanganak. HINDI ALAM NA NANGYAYARI NA SA TUNAY NA BUHAY ANG NASA RH BILL. 

    • white scorpion

      yan si binay, istariray yan eh. hindi makakatiis yan ng hindi magpa-photo ops, sumawsaw sa issue. tulad nitong sabah issue. wala ka naman narinig sa kanya noong in progress pa lang ang issue. nang, lumabas na ang balitang nilusob na nang malaysian authorities. biglang nagsalita na sa t.v. kailangan kasi makita rin siya sa t.v.

  • JoelV721

    Ipinakikita na rin ng simbahan kung ano ang magagawa nila at ng mga spokesmen ng simbahan para guluhin ang mga regulasyon at patakaran ng Comelec.  May nagsabi pang susunod sila sa laki at sukat ng mga karatula pera pagtatabi-tabihin nila para magmukhang napakalaki pa rin, pero binubuo ng ilang karatula.  Nasaan na ang moral standards ng simbahan.  Ngayon, magsisimba na lang kami dahil sa pananampalataya namin sa Panginoong Diyos, hindi dahil katiwa-tiwala ang mga mismong mga pari at mga tauhan ng simbahang Katolika, para na silang mga dirty politicians, who will do everything to beat the purpose of election regulations to serve their selfish objectives, which this time is political, rather than religious,

    • white scorpion

      ako, nagdarasal na lang ako mga-isa bago matulog. tumigil na ako sa pagpunta sa simbahan. tutal, GOD is everywhere, anyone ccan talk to him anywhere. mas malaki ang kasalanan ko makinig sa isang taong NAGMAMALINIS lang !!!  in short, hypocrite !!!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RDNBJXO442D6L4B54ZD6UT3DRM ELMERG

    how about a tarp for those who helps the sin tax bill survives favorably to the manufacturers in congress bishop navarra?….

  • white scorpion

    i DID NOT even bother to read the above topic. all i can say is that the fraile haven’t finished controlling our people much more, our government. desperately wants to regain controlling our government and people, and the lost glory. they simply could not stay in their own pig fence. somehow kailangan talaga makialam sa takbo ng buhay. baka LALAGLAGTIN kasi sila.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

    Ang hindi napapansin nitong maka-simbahan ay unti-unting nawawalan na ng paggalang sa mga pari ang taumbayan dahil sa kanilang pagkahilig sa pulitika. Kung ako ang masusunod sa lahat ng simbahan na may tarpaulin hindi dapat magsimba doon ang mga katoliko kasi mismong pari ay binabastos ang simbahan sa paglalagay ng napakalaking tarpaulin. Kung nabubuhay lang marahil ang Panginoong Hesukristo siguradong ipapaalis Niya ito at hahagupitin Niya ng latigo ang mga pari at pagsasabihan ng, ” Huwag ninyong bastusin ang bahay ng aking Ama! Mga mapagpaimbabaw, mga mapagkunwari at mga tampalasan! “

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