Of Team Patay and Team Buhay

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The Archdiocese of Bacolod came up with a very innovative way to express its position or opinion on the candidates who  voted for or against the Reproductive Health Bill.

They classified them into two groups; Team Patay who voted for and Team Buhay who voted against the RH bill.

The tarpaulin posted in front of the Church caught the attention of some people and became controversial.

Those who fell under Team Patay complained and asked the Commission on Elections (Comelec) to take out the tarpaulin because it violated election laws.

The Comelec  asked that the tarpaulin be taken out because it is in violation of the election laws.

But with due respect to the Comelec I think the tarpaulin posted inside a private property is beyond their reach because it is not favoring any candidate nor endorsing any candidate.

The tarpaulin merely informed the public candidates that the Church deemed to belong to Team Patay and those who are in Team Buhay.

I think what the Archdiocese is doing is exercising its freedom of expression and the Constitution is very clear that no law shall be passed abridging the freedom of expression etc.  Freedom of expression is guaranteed by the Constitution and should be upheld.

Besides the pro RH Bill advocates ridiculed the Catholic Church by asserting that there is no Catholic vote.

The tarpaulin does not say vote for or against certain candidates but is only informing the churchgoers who among the candidates belong to Team Buhay and Team Patay.

I think the Catholic Church sector is constrained to exercise its right of information and expression given the fact that they were ridiculed by some sectors about the existence of the Catholic vote.

And of course they are flexing their muscles against the real threat that another controversial bill will be pushed in Congress like the divorce bill or the same sex marriages.

The Comelec should not fear about the tarpaulin found in the church in Bacolod.

With due respect to the Comelec it is not an election material but the Church’s visible expression of its opinion on the RH bill vote in Congress.

and by the way more archdiocese are supporting the move of the Archdiocese of Bacolod and more tarpaulins bearing the same content will come out and posted in the Catholic Churches.  The Comelec is over acting to what is a legitimate exercise of the freedom of expression of the Church.

It is better if the Comelec should ensure that the PCOS machine to be used in the election is “cheat-proof” and will ensure accurate, transparent and tamper-free results.

It should also regulate the posting of clear campaign materials all around the country because so far the Comelec is all talk and no action in this area.

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Finally Pope Benedict the 16th bowed out of the papacy in a very emotional farewell speech before the cardinals all over the world.

Many were sad with the Holy Father’s decision but many also realized the supreme sacrifice he made by yielding tremendous power in his hands.  This is a rare and humbling gesture in a world where many politicians still cling to power.

Benedict XVI recognized his physical limitations and this should be followed by some of our leaders in the Catholic Church in our country and by our political leaders like Congresswoman Gloria Macapagal Arroyo and Councilor Jun Pe.

I think our leaders should be reminded that many of our youths look up to them as examples.

By clinging to power at all costs, these leaders send the wrong message that tragically will be repeated in the next and succeeding generations.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/killadajoker Denis Chanco

    those catholic church puppets will loose the elections

    • blowcoldblowhot

      The pro RH Bill advocates ridiculed the Catholic Church by asserting that there is no Catholic vote.  What now?

  • DinngMae

    Ricky Poca should know that the Church is forbidden to express political views. The tarpaulin cannot be regarded as a “freedom of expression” because it was a clear political statement against candidates who supported the passage of the RH law. Besides, the Church’s position during the reproductive health debate had been heard and, therefore, its alleged “freedom of expression” stands on hollow ground.

    In doing so, the Catholic hierarchy lost their moral authority since it was also playing a dirty political game. The local prelate’s contention that the signage was posted on private property and beyond the reach of the Comelec is a brazen attempt to muddle the issue. What was being questioned is the message and not the medium.

    The Church committed a grave sin because it is fomenting hatred when they put up the banner. Revenge is a sin. Instead of preaching love and peace, they created animosity among the people. While the Catholic Bishop Conference of the Philippines (CBCP) is noisy against the pro-RH candidates, it remained mute on the widespread sex and money scandal hounding the Church which caused the Pope’s resignation. Indeed, if there is Team Patay and Team Buhay, there must be a Team Pedophile.

    Instead of attacking people who stood against their will, the priests should instead undergo a process of self-criticism and internal cleansing. Likewise, Ricky Poca should examine his head before writing his unsolicited opinion.

    • johnlagrimas

       I suggest you do it to yourself first…you need a lot of “self-criticism”.

    • Verlito Ablin

      For decades, the Church had been criticized for its inaction and passive role during those dark days of Marcos dictatorship. But when it finally acted upon which brought to political power those personalities who are leading the country now, I doubt if they were ever thankful to the Church at one time or another for the good life they and their family had now experienced at the expense of the Filipino masses. 

      Instead what the Church got nowadays were ridicules and attack of its integrity from the same group of people who are the major benefactors of the People Power revolt. The same group of people who cries foul in the past of Marcos injustices, but now are also doing the same injustice acts to the very people that brought them to power. 

      With the worsening social conditions that we had now experiencing as perpetrated by those we thought will be our hope of leading the country for a better future, the Church will remain the only and last bastion of hope for the Filipino people who seek justice and desire for a better life. The Church has its shortcoming just like any human organization, but unlike our current political leaderships, the Church struggle hard everyday to evolve itself to be a better organization out of its past mistakes and ever responsive to the needs of the changing time without due regard to political affiliations, ethnicity, religion, social standing and the like.

      • DinngMae

        The Filipino people do not owe their freedom to the Catholic Church and what you wrote is history. Today is a different story. We are dealing with the present and not the past.

        The tarpaulin had nothing to do with the Marcos dictatorship. Your reply was out of context.

      • Verlito Ablin

        Everything are interconnected that is my opinion. If you do not concur with me, who cares. This is a free country, you are not my BOSS and I do not need your approval to post my opinion. By the way learn to have some respect on other people point of view which differs from your own and don’t be so arrogant. You are not the only stakeholders of this country. I hope you got my point.

      • DinngMae

        As I’ve said your reply was out of context. Where’s the arrogance there? I’m just being honest.
        Yes, you don’t need my approval and I didn’t solicit your opinion either. Thus, if you don’t want my answer don’t reply to my own post.

      • darkempire007

        What a crybaby..go get mommy

      • AntonioPeYangIII

        Nothing you say can change the fact that your church shelters child molesters, lad.

        And while it is true that these incidents aren’t exclusive to the RCC, the fact that your church decided to silence the victims and transfer the offenders to different parishes. 
        And as proven by numerous investigations in the United States and Ireland, these were not the actions of a few corrupt priests. They go right up to the princes of the Vatican, such as Cardinal Mahoney. These acts were condoned by your church as a whole, whether you want to believe it or not. Refer to the Murphy and Cloyne Report if you think I am lying.  It was also your church that actively fights against gay equality today, cowering behind false claims of religious freedom to deny LGBT couples the right to marry people they love. And contrary to what you claim, your church is not trying to better itself. If it were, these child rapists would be behind bars, decades ago. Instead we have your church transferring these priests to different parishes and countries, and don’t even have the sense to warn the families they’re working with that the priest is a sex offender. 

      • ShibumiNinja

        the church does not agree with that. 

      • AntonioPeYangIII

        Didn’t agree with it?

        Then why didn’t they hand the offenders over to the authorities when they had the chance? Why wait until they were threatened with legal sanctions?

      • ShibumiNinja

        yes they don”t

      • ShibumiNinja

        Yep I agree…
        Democracy was the name of the game. No body had any better choices… if you were alive and as opinionated during those dark days… baka we could have made you president instead of cory? sounds good right? you seem to have VERY GOOD ACES ON YOUR SLEEVE AT HIND SIGHT DI BA ahahaha

    • ShibumiNinja

      the starting premise of your discussion is immediately wrong and unfair. (A) there is no rule that says the church can not comment on anything but there is constitutional Fiat which says the state should protect the rights of freedom of religion and belief and thus must remain separate… (B) you make too much,quibbling about a piece of tarp which is stating to the faithful OF BACOLOD (THAT IS NOT YOU) that the church upholds non artificial methods of birth control and thus these are the fellows who voted for and against the Law. Look at the Tarp. O di ba? 

      I also find you are too over-infected with western media about the sex scandals and the other stuff not AT ALL CONNECTED WITH THAT POSTER TARP. 

      I am guessing you have a phobia that there is a catholic block vote perhaps? ahahahahah it’s just fear of the the unknown :D ))) I don’t believe that crock of manure…  

      mga iglesia ni kristo is proven over numerous elections to have a block vote… how come no body hears anyone kicking and screaming against those guys when they play around with politics voting like Xerox Copiers?? Hmmm… bias??? ahahahahah…. 

       I for one will not object to their ways because I know that they are also members of the electorate and therefore must afford them courtesy to sustain their views no matter how weird I find them to be. Catholics are not robots. They are not programmed to vote in any particular way. 

      • DinngMae

        Remember the Constitutional provision on the separation of the State and the Church. This is the essence.

        Over-infected with western media? That sex scandal is a Church business that bishops should explain to the faithfuls and not toy with politics. No wonder, more people are leaving the Church nowadays and seek elsewhere for their faith.

        And about the INC. They are not part of the Church and therefore your argument is moot.

  • philip hernaez

    St. John Bosco—“All past persecutors of the Church are now no more, but the Church still lives on. The same fate awaits modern persecutors; they, too, will pass on, but the Church of Jesus Christ will always remain, for God has pledged His Word to protect Her and be with Her forever, until the end of time.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000028893372 Jose Lopez

    This comment below by DinngMae, deserves to be repeated…  -and if the Catholic Church want to participate in politic, then they should pay taxes, as other private entities must.

    Hypocrisy –  and lies, as practiced by the C.C. has never been exempted by any God, as far as I know….  
    The same rules should apply for all of us.. Incl. the C.C….. – IMHO at least…Ricky Poca should know that the Church is forbidden to express political views. The tarpaulin cannot be regarded as a “freedom of expression” because it was a clear political statement against candidates who supported the passage of the RH law. Besides, the Church’s position during the reproductive health debate had been heard and, therefore, its alleged “freedom of expression” stands on hollow ground.In doing so, the Catholic hierarchy lost their moral authority since it was also playing a dirty political game. The local prelate’s contention that the signage was posted on private property and beyond the reach of the Comelec is a brazen attempt to muddle the issue. What was being questioned is the message and not the medium.The Church committed a grave sin because it is fomenting hatred when they put up the banner. Revenge is a sin. Instead of preaching love and peace, they created animosity among the people. While the Catholic Bishop Conference of the Philippines (CBCP) is noisy against the pro-RH candidates, it remained mute on the widespread sex and money scandal hounding the Church which caused the Pope’s resignation. Indeed, if there is Team Patay and Team Buhay, there must be a Team Pedophile.Instead of attacking people who stood against their will, the priests should instead undergo a process of self-criticism and internal cleansing. Likewise, Ricky Poca should examine his head before writing his unsolicited opinion.
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    – See more at: http://nehould know that the Church is forbidden to express political views. The tarpaulin cannot be regarded as a “freedom of expression” because it was a clear political statement against candidates who supported the passage of the RH law. Besides, the Church’s position during the reproductive health debate had been heard and, therefore, its alleged “freedom of expression” stands on hollow ground.In doing so, the Catholic hierarchy lost their moral authority since it was also playing a dirty political game. The local prelate’s contention that the signage was posted on private property and beyond the reach of the Comelec is a brazen attempt to muddle the issue. What was being questioned is the message and not the medium.The Church committed a grave sin because it is fomenting hatred when they put up the banner. Revenge is a sin. Instead of preaching love and peace, they created animosity among the people. While the Catholic Bishop Conference of the Philippines (CBCP) is noisy against the pro-RH candidates, it remained mute on the widespread sex and money scandal hounding the Church which caused the Pope’s resignation. Indeed, if there is Team Patay and Team Buhay, there must be a Team Pedophile.Instead of attacking people who stood against their will, the priests should instead undergo a process of self-criticism and internal cleansing. Likewise, Ricky Poca should examine his head before writing his unsolicited opinion.
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    • ShibumiNinja

      really a mouth full there @facebook-100000028893372:disqus 
      in your own musings, you missed the point. they are only telling the faithful (NOT YOU) they are promoting anti rh principles. those guys voted for or against it; that is all.Look at the poster. 

       you must be really scared that there is a catholic block vote ahahahah wala naman eh. 

      separation of church and state is really more protective that the state does not meddle in the affairs of the church; an un-drawn line in the sand dividing the sacred and the secular; more than vice versa… no matter the voluminous objections you post here, the church is allowed to talk just like your vainglorious comments intended to deprive them…

      separation issues, I guess, can be applied as defense against their act since legitimately, it is orthodox and doctrinal in the church to argue favorable against artificial methods including abortion… team patay di ba?

      by the way there is no verboten about the church expressing political views. it is also a reminder that … All priests and catholic faithful members are also members of the electorate Unless of course your sanctimonious persuasion means to disenfranchise all catholics because they don’t agree with your inclinations :D ))))) … sorry… not gonna happen… 

      unfortunately you just have to live with it. 

      bad news is… the cbcp might clone the poster in the other cathedrals regardless of political laws 

  • $17531445

    It’s about time we find out how good an election lawyer Brillantes is supposed to be – instead of just threatening to file charges, let him file the charges and let the court decide the matter.

  • srvnts

    I would have wanted the Catholic Church to excommunicate these members of the Body of Christ that are dead cells or “Team Patay”.  They are disobedient, rebellious, and contagious with their ill-will to what is spiritual and moral. As the Lord has empowered the Church, “What ever you bind   on earth will be bound in Heaven and whatever you loose on earth will be loosened in Heaven” . .  . “What ever sin you forgive will be forgiven”, then, this should be enough to warn these power panicky scalawags that it would only take a word from the Church for them to be punished eternally. Repent and change your ways lest everything will be too late.      

    • darkempire007

      Uneducated puppets

  • ShibumiNinja

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