Gov’t intel eyes 3 groups abetting Sulu sultan’s claim

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Whether the heirs of the sultanate of Sulu acted on their own to reclaim Sabah or were instigated by an external force to do so, one thing is certain, according to government intelligence sources: It was a business that proved too big for the heirs to handle on their own.

The sources said that the Philippine government’s policy on Sabah is to keep it in the back burner.

But apparently “some people” want to push it forward now. And why now, at this time, is one of the questions government intelligence is looking into.

The sources consistently mentioned three groups that appear to have taken advantage of the decision of the Kirams to pursue their Sabah claim.

“These are groups that wanted to ride on the Kirams’ pursuit with their own interests in mind,” one of the sources said.

Another source added: “There are a lot who can gain from this, not just in the Philippines but in Malaysia as well.”

These “external factors,” as an Inquirer source described the groups, are one small faction that is in it for the money, an anti-Aquino administration group, and the Malaysian political opposition.

“The Kirams planned to pursue their claim as early as last year. But they went to Lahad Datu also on the instigation of these groups,” the intelligence officer said.

The small group supposedly goaded the Kirams to ask Malaysia for a higher rent on Sabah. If Malaysia gives in, this small group would allegedly have a share of the increase.

The anti-administration group simply wants to discredit President Aquino and is using the peace process as a cause of disenchantment for the Kirams.

“All those who do not like P-Noy (the President’s nickname) have joined forces. This is one way to really test how this administration will react (to such an issue). Whatever happens in Malaysia, there will be a backlash on us,” one source said.

“In a way, whoever wants to disrupt the peace process or the gains of President Aquino has already won,” the source added.

The third group is allegedly the Malaysian political opposition, which is gearing up for general elections that may be called before June.

The intelligence officer said that one member of the Malaysian political opposition allied with Anwar Ibrahim was running for a post in Sabah.

“Apparently, this politician was one of those who spoke with the Kirams. He supposedly gave the opposition’s support to the Kirams’ claim to Sabah,” the source said.

November meeting

The source also believed that in their meeting in November last year, the Kirams decided to “reclaim Sabah or at least ask for a compensation for Sabah that is commensurate to the land’s value today, and for the royal family to be given due recognition by Malaysia.”

But it is being Tausug that is keeping Sultan Jamalul Kiram III, his family, and their subjects stubbornly pressing their renewed claim to Sabah, even to the extent of defying President Aquino, one of the Inquirer sources said.

“This is the last stand of Sultan Jamalul. Being Tausug, they already gave their word they would pursue their claim. This is now do or die for them just to keep their word of honor,” the source, a senior military officer, told the Inquirer.

But for another security administrator analyzing the events of the past three weeks, the Kirams appear to be quite edgy of late.

“They are confused. The government is hopeful that we can buy more time, find a diplomatic way out,” the source said, referring to the government’s efforts to help settle the standoff between Malaysian security forces and an armed group led by Jamalul’s brother, Agbimuddin Kiram, in Tanduao village in Lahad Datu town now in its third week.

Kiram unity

The Inquirer’s sources are from the diplomatic and defense establishments. They asked not to be named as they were not authorized to speak to journalists about their analysis of developments in the so-called journey home to Sabah of the Kirams.

The source said the Kirams decided to unite because they felt left out of the peace negotiations between the Aquino administration and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, which signed a premilinary peace deal last October.

Calling gov’t attention

“The Kirams wanted to get the attention of the Philippine government,” the source said.

“For so many years, the family felt they have been exploited in politics. Sultan Jamalul was goaded to run for senator in 2010 but he lost. Then their letter to President Aquino (in 2010 before he assumed office) got lost,” the source said.

The source said the Kirams and their followers “conceived the details of the plan to go to Lahad Datu” in late January this year.

“In February, a small group of the Kirams’ followers left for Lahad Datu, followed by Raja Muda Agbimuddin,” the source said.

The estimated 70 firearms now in the hands of the group holed up in Tanduao are owned by residents in Lahad Datu, Tausug and Badjao holding Malaysian identification cards, the source said.

Malaysian security forces have encircled Agbimuddin’s group but are holding action, with the grace period for the group to leave having been extended three times and a fourth being requested by the Philippine government.

Malaysians careful

The Inquirer’s military source said the impasse continues because the Malaysians are extra careful in dealing with Agbimmudin’s group.

“They are all Muslims and they know that if there is violence, it would go on forever. There are 800,000 Filipinos in Sabah. It would be a huge problem in Sabah if violence erupts. The Malaysian security forces may end up dealing with guerrillas or a rido,” the source said, using a Muslim term for clan war.

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  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/iV0XkkNontlsHWTkG2jcuz.PB64A#6b054 F alonso

    The issue in the standoff is the legal claim of the Kirams to Sabah as their Ancestral Land based on valid documents and morality on ownership.Did the forefathers of the Kirams relinquished Sabah to the Malaysian during the olden days?
    If the Kirams have legal right to claim Sabah then it’s not a big issue who’s pushing them to do so because the Phil Govt had consistently abandoned these people time and again. 

    • redape

      What valid documents? Do they even have the deed of transfer from the Sultan of Brunei that carries his seal. Brunei claims that no such exchange was ever made. 

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/iV0XkkNontlsHWTkG2jcuz.PB64A#6b054 F alonso

        That’s how you were taught by the fradulent Malays.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RWPOD4ER5LJPDQU3N32NAC74X4 johnnie r

    …and now the latest spin from Malacanang is to put the blame on the CONSPIRACY THEORY still refusing to believe how a rag-tag group of armed men can enter Malaysia undetected and PHYSICALLY stake a claim at their ancestral land, to the embarassment of both Philippine and Malaysian authorities!!!

  • JOSE RIZAL

    nice try. the people will not buy it.

    • Nimrod Suaez

      Yeah, the student council can fool the people some of the time but not all the time….

  • simondj

    let us be realistic,,, all the worlds famous impire collapse because they have no more power to protect it, the paraoh of egypt, the kingdom of solomon, the babylonian impire, the persian, the greece, the romans, the british, etc.etc. it is God who set up king and kingdom and remove it. akala lang nang tao sa kanila ang lupa pero and tao ang babalik sa lupa. nanggaling sa lupa babalik sa lupa sabi ng kanta.

  • labanderamo

    tuta ni arroyo si kiram, its a win win situation for them. it won’t be long now and GMA will go free. mga tauhan kasi ni Pres. Noy medyo incompetent in dealing with any situations. starting with the  bus hostage drama up to now 2 yrs na still giving our president wrong info and bad speeches 

  • geojewel

    Hey, guni-guni lang ng intel yan…kung sino man sya…PARANOID INTEL! Non-sense, baseless info! So how did qualified as intelligence na hindi naman intelligently researhed yang intel info mo? 

  • jinx

    Kaya andaming nautong Pilipino ngayon, nakiki-ride on sa Sabah sentiments. Di man lang iniisip bakit sa tagal-tagal ng panahon, bigla na lang isinulong ngayon ang claim sa Sabah. Kung kailan magkakaroon na ng usapang pangkapayapaan.  Kung kailan eleksiyon.  Kung kailan wala ka ng marinig na sagupaan sa Mindanao. 

    • juan dela cruz

      bat di mo yan itanong sa sa sarili mo sir…

    • batangpaslit

      eh kailan ba ang dapat?
      the claim of the Sultanate of Sulu had been been burning long before the Commonwealth Era
      si Pres Macapagal at Pres Marcos lang ang nagbigay pansin.
      mali ang perception mo Tsong

    • Alex Alvarez

      maganda nga ang pagkakataon after many years na back burner ang claim………………………

  • speaksoftlylove

    Ayaw pang banggitin ang pangalan ng source ng intel ‘daw” samantalang bistado namang si AK47 Llamas ang source. Expert talaga sa kalokohan at kaguluhan yang higad na pirated video king.

    • ApoLapullapu

      Hindi kaya ng utak ni Llamas ang ganitong klaseng analysis.

  • DarkJustice

    Ang galing naman ng Intelligence! HIndi din ba pinag-aralan ng Intelligence na ito kung ano dahilan bakit ilagay sa bacj burner ang claim sa Sabah na mas malaki ang laban compare sa Panatag Shoal? Kung pera ang nakikita ng Intelligence ang dahilan,, ano kaya dahilan ng ayaw pag claim ng gobyerno sa Sabah? HIndi ba pera din????

    • Alex Alvarez

      oo pera galing sa malaysia, sinusuhulan ang mga politiko natin, sino nga ba ang me stand sa sabah issue ngayon? halos lahat tiklop ang mga bibig puwerea ke Maceda at VP Binay………..

  • speaksoftlylove

    Kung totoo mayroon silang intel intel napigilan sana yong pagpunta ng tropa ni Kiram sa Sabah. Ano yan after effect intel, intel fantasy. intel hogwash, intel script, intel hula based on fung shui? Mga pasaway.

    • Alex Alvarez

      di ba sinabi na nga pupunta sila noong nasa simunul pa ang topa ni Rajah Muda? Na akala ay di totohanin?

  • DGuardian

    Bakit hindi maabot ng utak ni Presidente Aquino at ng mga tauhan niya na sino mang tao na mawalan ng isang milyong piso ay hindi na mapapakali at makakatulog sa kaiisip at panghihinayang dito, lalo na kung iang nawala asy isang lupain na kasinglaki at kasing yaman ng Sabah na nagpayaman, nagpaunlad, nagpaganda at gumawa sa Malaysia na isang makapangyarihan at influential nation, so influential na  pati Presidente  ng Pilipinas at mga ka-alyados niya ay tiklup tuhod na ginagawa ang lahat para siya matuwa at maging kaibigan ni Aquino. Dati akong masugid na supporter ni Aquino. Wala akong hinangad kung hindi ang mabago niya at mapaunlad ang ating bansa. Pero sa nakikita kong arrogance niya at walang  tunay na pagtingin at pagmamahal sa mga Pilipino, lalo na sa mga maliliit at powerless, ay nawalang lahat ang paghanga ko at suporta sa kanya. Tinutulungan niya ang Malaysia na lalong i-oppress ang mga Tausug.  Kalokohan itong sinasabi ng intelligence report. Chain of events ang mga pangyayari na nag-sprout o nag-spawn sa kawalan ng anumang pagtulong ng mga nakaraang administrasyon, bukod kay Marcos at Macapagal, na mabawi ng lessor, ang Sultan ng Sulu, ang Sabah mula sa Malaysia na  inagaw lang ito mula sa original na tenant o lessee, ang North Borneo British Company. Walang sinumang tao na naniniwala sa katarungan ang papanig sa Malaysia sa ginawa niyang pagnanakaw na ito ng isang malaki at napakayamang lupain. Sa pag-gamit lang ng Logic ay matatanto mo na  ang isang taong ninakawan ng ganoong kahalagang kayamanan ay hindi man lamang matatahimik sa bawat segundo ng kanyang existence sa mundo at hindi lilipas ang kahit isang oras na hindi maaalaala at manghihinayang sa napakalaking lupain na nawala sa kanya, lalo pa at ang kanyang pamilya, kaanak at mga kapwa Tausug ay naghihirap at nagdurusa sa sobrang kawalan at paghihikahos.
     

    Presidente Aquino, ngayon ko natanto ang klase ng iyong pagkatao. Wala ka talagang anumang pagmamahal at loyalty sa mga Pilipino at nakahanda kang i-persecute sila gumanda lamang ang iyong international image at umani ka ng mga kaibigang  foreign statesmen.  Ang history ang magju-judge sa iyo. Binigyan ka ng Diyos ng pagkakatong mabago at mahango ang Pilipinas sa kinasadlakang kumunoy,  subali’t tulad ng iba pang mga presidente ay inabuso mo ang iyong puwesto at inapi ang  mga inapi na noon pang mga Pilipino. Sana ay tigilan ninyo na ang campaign ninyo na siraan at pasamain ang mga Kiram at mga Tausug, at nagdadamay pa kayo ng mga inosenteng Pilipino at mga banyaga.     

    • ApoLapullapu

      Effective upon the departure of this Small Unit from Sulu to Malaysia without the support of the government, the Philippines has lost by default its Claim on Sabah.

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    The intel reports may be plausible but they failed to stop Kiram’s Royal Army from going to Sabah. The intel reports came too late. They came after the fact. They may well be fabrications of PNoy’s administration for all we know. Huli na ang lahat. Kiram and his family have succeeded in forcing the hand of the administration. For ignoring the Kirams since day one, this is what ill-advised PNoy and his arrogant administration gets.

    In fairness to the intelligence report, it sounds highly politicized. The product of fertile imagination.

    • ApoLapullapu

      This is not an intelligence report. This is an intelligence analysis of the current situation.

      • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

        Report or analysis, bakit hindi kinausap ng pamahalaan direktamente ang mga Kiram? Nakaiwas sana sila sa stand-off.

  • Kancer Ninth

    a backlash for malaysias national coalition for simply granting these borderless pirates their blue IDs to buy their votes for the upcoming election.

    didn’t take too long to see the backlash

  • bogli_anakdami

    sa headline title pa lang eh bagsik ng dating… “gub’ment intel…”… intel???

    flip gung gongs’ IQ is below the chart… orangutans scored higher…

    • Alex Alvarez

      Mas mataas pa iq nong mga nandoon sa “SEPILOK” kesa mga nasa malacanan, ganon ba? he he he…..

  • juan dela cruz

    those “intel” people should be fired.what a lame excuse! or baka naman parang sulat din ni kiram na nawala raw..tsk.tsk.tsk 

  • KenKhoy

    no other ……..little lady na naman ………

  • Nimrod Suaez

    Yeah, intelligence information in an envelope given by a small lady. Its obvious, the bangsamoro  negotiations solely with the MILF……its the mother of all blunders committed by the president of the student council in malacanag……

    • Alex Alvarez

      maybe this time that little lady is GMA? LOL………..

      • ApoLapullapu

        Each time anything bungles in this Administration, GMA is to blame.

  • wangad onlee

    That Sabah belongs to the Philippines and that we Pinoys should drive away the occupiers is the issue here. The least we should do is for all Pinoys, from the president down to the common tao, muslim and non-muslims, to demonstrate unity and support on this demand to get back the land that belongs to the  Sulu sultanate. Any lesser action will show our weakness and non-resolve on the matter. If we don’t do it now, we might as well just abdicate our claim to Sabah and say goodbye Sabah. Retaking Sabah is worth dying for and all Pinoys should be one with our Tausog and muslim brothers on this fight. This will be a Pinoy fight and not a proxy one of the world powers. Let us drive away the squatters of Sabah…and let us give the many Pinoy illegal settlers the opportunity to have land in the land of plenty of Sabah.
    The government does not place the Sabah issue on a high priority because there is no strategy for  ‘Post Successfull Sabah Return to Philippine Jurisdiction’.  There is however a strategy for ‘Post Failed Attempts to Return Sabah to Philippine Jurisdiction’ and this is as clear as your pure mineral drinking water, kiss the butts of the occupiers because they are providing livelihood to 800,000 Pinoys…don’t stir the peace and calm in the neighborhood because allegedly the Pinoys will be on the losing end…etc., etc…which just shows us a weakling and spineless.
    Magka-isa ka Pinas at ipaglaban ang iyong karapatan at huwag kang papa-apak sa mga dayuhan ng iyong kapaligiran. God is Great…AllahuAkbar.

    • ApoLapullapu

      But the President and the DOJ have threatened to file charges against the elements of the Royal Security Force of Sulu – meaning the government is washing its hands and is even helping Malaysia drive out the Heirs of the Sultan of Sulu from their own land.

  • UrHONOR

    I assure you Mike Alolong is not involved in this issue.

  • Matambaka

    What INTEL? Its a procduct of some chika-chika and gossips… no ground work etc…

    OK, Since they are already in Lahad Datu, it is nice that we are going to Talk sabah Now? or let it pass again and wait for another 50 years?

    Of all this actions..Sulu SUltan actions are highly commendable. If the Sultan and our fellow brother Muslim does not initiate this standoff… This issue will be trash t again to nowhere like the Sultans letter.It is not nice that we are already  about to have a FAIR DEAL?

    Our government actions and siding with Malaysians  government is unacceptable to most Filipino.

  • batangpaslit

    kung intel report ito, bakit naging public?

    • divictes

      TAMA!!!…worst premature. Why alert your opponents?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GRVAJUYIO6PRIAPQHNE6MYKNEQ Lando

    mukhang si GLoria na naman ang gagawing punching bag hahahaha

    • Alex Alvarez

      naku, huwag ka nawang magdilang anghel……….. baka nga naman isisi na naman ke GMA to LOL………….

      • ApoLapullapu

        Di ba ang Administration na naman ni GMA ang ibig sisihin sa nawalang sulat ni Kiram?  Hindi pa raw nakaupo si PNoy kaya nawala ang sulat eh.

  • Matambaka

     from malaysian news: wwwDOTDailyexpressDOTcomDOTmy

    Kota Kinabalu:
    Former Chief Minister Tan Sri Harris Salleh has
    proposed that the Malaysian Government permanently settle the
    long-standing issue raised by the Sultan of Sulu by way of a lump-sum
    compensation payment of RM200 million.

    =========
    RM200 Million is almost 2.6 Billyon Pesos lang ang buong sabah? Malaysia is profiting from OIL alone almost $70 Billion a year! for several decades…

     

    • http://nativesabahan.myopenid.com/ NativeSabahan

      sulu only ceded the eastern part of sabah during 1800s. western part of sabah does not produce oil, genius. oil rigs are situated on the east coast of sabah.

      and that guy harris is pretty much despised by sabahans since the 80s.

  • Erwin M. Geli

    Intel Sources = New term used for a “chika-chika” to be newsworthy.

    • Matambaka

       lol ^_^

  • Albert Einstien

    you can not get CRAZIER than that..intelligence eyeing supporters of KIRAMS…NATURALLY ALL PATRIOTS who love their country will support a PATRIOTIC CAUSE.that is close to 100 million MINUS pnoy & ilk ….. ..DONT MUDDLE the ISSUE… whether SULTANATE has followers or not..the ISSUE is: SABAH is PHILIPPINE TERRITORY & your MALAYSIAN partners are ROBBING the country for 50 years ALREADY with yearly $75 billion ROBBERY MONEY……just CLIAM it in ICJ..and DEMAND & GIVE EVICTION NOTICE to MALAYSIA to get out of sabah….pnoy should not serve as MALASia spokesperson…what ever malaysia promised you REJECT IT…. they are trying even to LAND GRAB mindanao through COMPROMISE ” PIECE ” DEAL…

    your intelligence are INVOLVED in ATIMONAN case on BOTH sides…what ABSURD STORY LINE will you EXPECT from them…. .

    • Matambaka

      wag mo naman masyadong tirahin si Penoy..kawawa naman haha

      Sana naman wag na alng syang magpahayah ng mga harsh comment o i threaten ang Sultan sa Publiko..

      Mahirap din ang isyu na ito sa kanya dahil nasa gitna sya pero sana inisip na alng nya na ITO NA ANG TAMANG PAGKAKATAON NA MAPAG USAPAN ITO!

      kaso parang bahag ang buntot sa Malaysian…

      Kahit simpleng Pilipino sa kalye…hindi sasang ayunan ang Presidente…

      ===

      Ikaw na ang ninakawan ..kampihan mo pa ang magnanakaw…Sana binigay mo na lang… Sa mga sinabi ng Pres. natin parang ibigay na alng nya ang Sabah para sa Peace deal nya sa MILF…

      Baka gusto nya magka NOBEL PEACE Price Award?

      Personal pa rin ang iniisip? weh

      • Albert Einstien

        inutilegence meron si pnoy …noynoying lang din…mga bangag at nagpapa-jueteng pa ata…yung sa PALSYO taga BIGAY pa nga ng STICKER sa mga sila MISMO na nagSASABI na SINDIKATO..pero binibigyan pa rin nila ng PALACE DECALs…lol

  • geminimind

    It is easier to claim Sabah if it wasn’t develop as it is and now that it’s fully developed it takes what it takes to protect it by it’s own inhabitants and the government that rules them.

  • divictes

    I’ve always thought that INTEL stood for ‘intelligence’ not the lack of it. Bakit hindi ninyo na-INTEL ang gagawin ng Sultan gayong sumulat na siya sa presidente? Clueless or Boneless? 

    • Alex Alvarez

      baka brainless?

      • ApoLapullapu

        Sa Bisaya kasi iba ang ibig sabihin ng intel eh.

  • Jimmy Munar

    Yang Sabah eh sa Pinas talaga dahil pag-aari yan ng sultan ng Sulu..!Dapat ay mamagitan lang ang Pinas sa usaping yan…!

    • Matambaka

       Ayaw  ng Presidente natin..

      Besides sabi ng MAlaysian spokesperson na si Mar Roxas…Hindi ang  Malaysia makipag usap sa Sultan..

      —–END—-

  • Albert Einstien

    THE alleged proposed offer of RM 200MILLION is CHEAP…..CHINA will offer $500 billion for sabah plus GOVERNORSHIP of SULTAN..with his ROYALS INTACT..as i see it…malaysia is robbing us $75 billion a year for 50 years ALREADY….alleged offer is PEANUTS.lol

    SULTAN ” KEEP the DEED of ABSOLUTE SALE ” close to your CHEST…that is the ONLY RELEVANT CARD…..the WORLD SUPERPOWERS will be KOWTOWING at your FEET SOON…never mind the INSIGNIFICANT malaysia & pnoy noynoying govt…CHINA, BRUNEI , SAUDI etc…will have BETTER OFFERS…my ADDITIONAL unsolicited advice again…OPEN an ON-LINE AUCTION…the WORLD SUPERPOWERS will be on THEIR KNEES….lol

    • Matambaka

       Very cheap indeed…^_^ @google-35e0740b357a45b40e97084129f0cf82:disqus  I admire your dedication…

      We Filipinos have to unite in order to solved this standoff and also for them (Malaysia,Sulu Sultanate,PHL) to come up with a FAIR DEAL or AGREEMENT..

      Ngayon alng ito mapag uusapan ..kung hindi another 50 years na naman… or hindi na..”DORMANT” na nga sabi ng spokesperson ng MY sa Malacanang… ^_^

      • redape

        The Sultanate of Brunei denies that they ever awarded anything to Sulu. The Brunei Salahsilah (Annals) mention nothing about it, and they were commissioned by the Sultan who supposedly received the support of the Sulu in suppressing the Civil War. The Sulu Sultanate have never produced the document they claim that bears the State Seal of Brunei that confirms the cession. The Borneo Company acquired the “sovereign rights” from both Brunei and Sulu because of this dispute, and the payments to Sulu were “bunga mas” to prevent the regular slave raids and piracy along the coasts and rivers (that forced all indigenous settlements to move 70 miles upriver for protection).

        At best the Bruneians gave the Sulu Sultan (whom they later defeated and placed their own king in his place) the right to levy river tolls. That would be worth about what the Borneo Company actually paid for them, and since the current government doesn’t extract river tolls from anyone anymore those rights were worth nothing.

        If Sulu wants Borneo then perhaps it is THEY who should be paying for the costs of years of development that have been expended. They need to buy the buildings, roads, telcom towers, airports, ports, and pay for the plantations, all the expenses of the records, censuses, and any ships, airplanes, offices, etc. Let them come up with the billions of dollars for these things. Then they can talk about taking the sovereign power back…after a vote of the people…and a guarantee that they will respect the property and civil rights of all Sabahans.

      • JKG_HSA_VOSA

         Do you have copies of the receipt from the Sultanate of Sulu showing what the Malaysian Government and the British have been paying them? Maybe you can check (since you seem to have access to historical documents) what these payments are for, rather than just concluding that these are bribes to leave settlers alone or river tolls.

        From what has been reported so far, there really are payments made to the Sultan of Sulu. Can these payments not be considered sufficient proof that the Sultanate has some form of authority over the land? Why pay money to people who has zero rights over something?

        If what the Sultanate of Sulu possess is only a story passed on by word of mouth, I would not have put more credibility on their story. But they do receive actual payment from 2 governments who ruled and rules over the disputed land. That to me is prima facie proof of recognition of their authority and a solid support for their story.

  • Alex Alvarez

    What kind of intel is this? Its a CRAP!

  • Fulpol

    remember Jabidah Massacre…

    like remember the Alamo…

    be careful BS Aquino III… 

  • Fulpol

    another propaganda coming from BS Aquino III….

    intel??? or showbiz chismis courtesy of Boy Abunda..

    LOL

  • redape

    It’s very doubtful that the weapons in Tanduo are held by Malaysians legally unless they are “bird guns” or are being used inappropriately and outside their legal purposes.

     It should also be made clear that several members of the Kiran clan were deported just a few years ago for forging MyKads and Malaysian Passports and selling them. So the claim that these weapons are held by “those with Malaysian Identity Cards” is more than a little stinky.Besides if one bears a Malaysian ID card then isn’t that acceptance of Malaysian SOVEREIGNTY???

    • Matambaka

       Yes..More Filipino accepts Malaysian citizenship beacsue they are subject to abused ad maltreatment.

      Your government also in a hurry to give citizenship to this Filipino brothers because they can used them during election! These Malaysian politician benefited from these Filipinos-turned Malaysian votes!

      Its give and take… Do you know that some of the 300 men in standoff grows in Sabah? They are familiar with the place.

      • ApoLapullapu

        Definitely.  Some of them are sons of those alleged Jabidah massacre  victims whose dead bodies were never found in Corrigidor because they had been secretly shipped out and infused into the Sabah population.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

    hahaha,  the Malaysian and Pnoy administration are getting jittery.  Of course the whole patriotic filipinos are behind the Kirams.  No need to identifu the group becasue they are all over not only in the Philippines but throughout the world.  The wisest thing that the government can do this time is to ensure the safety of the Kiram’s group in Sabah and push through with the Philippine’s claim of Sabah.  Every country has disputes on territories and boundaries so I can’t really understand what Pnoy is scared about.  It is truly beyond my understanding why he cared more for the Malaysans than his own citizens.  His actions this time will surely decide his political future

    • ApoNiLolo

      I don’t know about the Malaysians, but our president is more concerned about the economic repercussion of Kiram’s action to the 500K Filipinos working in Sabah and Malaysia. This is one of the reason why he wants everything to be settled diplomatically.

      Pnoy’s position is between – “Dam n if you don’t” and “Dam n if you do”.

      • sagbotgamot

         Between patriotism and political interest… Pnoy choose the later. it is safer.

  • marcial101

    Between the two sovereign the first one to blink will be at the loser end, malaysia’s politics might be using the sabah issue in their general election, some of the malaysian news even doubt the sabah claim as a charade and/or minor issue not deserving of real attention considering that the public does not really know what is happening. there are no actual footage, interview or substantive report to verify the actual and real situation.
      

  • Albert Einstien

    revoked na yun lease contract DAHIL sa MAJOR BREACH… kasi ang british govt who is a SUB-LESSEE of overbeck ….assigned it to malaysia…while malaysia is paying nominal rent..that is ONLY an ORAL LEASE CONTRACT…can be revoked ORALLY by sultanate…that is why their HOMECOMING is LEGAL & VALID… or by SERVING DEMAND & NOTICE to VACATE…to malaysian embassy here in the RP…in fact filipino sovereign citizen can serve to malasian embassy a NOTICE & DEMAND to VACATE anytime…!

    anong case pinag-sasabi ng pnoy govt as MALASia spokeperson..at me CONSPIRACY THEORY pa mga ENG-ENG….there can be NO CRIME for PATRIOTISM because it is a DUTY of  citizens….and if MAJORITY of the PEOPLE  AGREE with the CLAIM it is ALREADY a SOVEREIGN WILL… sovereign WILL REST on the PEOPLE NOT on govt…mga bwisit..mag-aral kayo…..lol

    • Benjamin Ismail

       bla bla bla

  • Platypus09

    Am glad that this intelligence report came out.

    At least, our government knows how to deal with this group.

    Good job, President Aquino.

  • smartestofall

    having malaysian opposition support the sultanate is a good thing. maybe the government is just making excuses because they do not know what to do next. history will JUDGE them.

  • smartestofall

    The Malaysian Government cannot harm the owners of the land, who is the Sultanate of Sulu… that will be tantamount to stealing their property and claiming it as their own.  Will the United Nations allow this?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VHTS7CFDJYRMSLBKA7E42VEE74 Sepilok

      yes because we are recognised as the land owners and these are armed intruders

    • Azwan Nazreensyah

      how sure are you that Sabah is theirs? Sabah have been under the rulings of the borneo white king for generations and passed down to Malaysia,they agreed to be together with Malaysia as a state…and now simply you say they come, “Oh its my land actually from hundreds of years before,im taking it back..”
      im sorry,we got the history and black and white to prove that the people of Sabah themselves wanted to be part of Malaysia..where is the sultanate then???

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/7VO6EHRZHX2LW7Z2NEAQ2223WM chocojam

        Sabah was illegally joined to the federation. But the federation has long been disbanded ever since Singapore went out.

      • smartestofall

        you dont even know Malaysia has been paying rental for Sabah for your entire life.  how would you even know that? you dont even know what is happening there without the FREE press of the Philippine websites.  Malaysia has hidden this FACT from Malaysian citizens because they do not know how to handle this.  their only solution is to KILL the landlords.

  • http://twitter.com/Kid_Kilatis Kid Kilatis

    nakakaduda talaga ang timing ng pagpunta nila sa sabah. both govenrments should look into this report. there are many groups in the philippines and malaysia who want to foment disorder and lawlessness. 

  • arao_liwanag

    Long live the Filipino Muslim! Down with the land-grabber government of Malaysia, and The PH President who hails from a family of land-grabber too.

  • ApoLapullapu

    The analysis have some accurateness.  It is objective and can turn out right.  The government should listen to this kind of analysis. It is entirely different from the analysis of the political adviser who loves AK-47s.

    • Kairosphil

      si Llamas ba adviser? Un nahuling bumili ng pirated DVD?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    tingnan mo gobyerno inutil sinisiraan pa kababayan monggoloid kalbo!

  • AllinLawisFair

    Or, is someone or are some people trying to sabotage the peace negotiations between the government and the Muslims in Mindanao?

  • Mamang Pulis

    wow—amazing–finally somebody is eloquent enough to write my ramblings here in the forum…

    amazing….

  • Popskief

    Polika lang naman kasi yan, GAMITAN LANG. Nagpagamit si Sultan, hayon nalagasan siya nang ilang pobreng alipores. Magpasalamat pa kamo siya hindi sila inubos nang Malaysian authorities.

    Sovereignty over Sabah is now with Malaysia. Ownership could be with the Sultan. Hayaan natin sila mga usap niyan, wag na idamay ang Pilipinas.  The peace in Mindanao is far more important that a Sultan’and his clan’s personal interest.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/7VO6EHRZHX2LW7Z2NEAQ2223WM chocojam

      It is not as simple as “hayaan”. Northern part of Sabah is under Philippine sovereignty, Sultanate man o hindi, sa Pilipinas pa rin yon!

  • julieboy

    How do you think our Govt. should have reacted..Diplomacy of course,and both sides did all they can considering the situation.The Kiram family played hardball so blackmail has no place in a civilized society. Malaysian authorities already bent backwards trying to find a solution,the Philippine Govt. already did all they can to resolve the problem.Pnoy did the right thing,diplomacy,maximum tolerance etc.but eventually you have to put your foot down.The Malaysians were patient enough and waited,but you can not wait forever.Unfortunately some people were killed and wounded,that’s to bad but inevitable.Watch people ride on this issue and use it to grandstand their position.There are organizations behind all this and used the Kiram family to push and create trouble.The peace process in Mindanao is being put in place,the local elections are in full swing..Meroon nakikinabang dito..Kawawa ang familia Kiram.

    • Philcruz

       The Kirams almost seem like simple unsophisticated but arrogant malleable minds manipulated by very wily minds behind the scenes.

  • Popskief

    UPDATE: The Malaysian PM has given order to its ground commanders to use necessary action”, balita Kiram’s troops are on the run. MNLF distance themselves from the issue because of fear to upset Malaysia.  MILF will not send there troops because of the peace agreement. Siyempre takot rin sila sa Malaysia.

    ASG will niether help, takot din sa kapwa nila muslim na taga Malaysia.

    The Malaysian are now geared for combat nasaan na ang matatapang at gusto lahat daanin sa brasuhan. ayaw niyo makinign sa payo nang liderato nang bansa.

    Punta na kayo sa Sabah, the Malaysian warriors are waiting. Patayan ang hanap ninyo ngayon nakita niyo. Pag naubos na kayo, tatahimik na ang Mindanao.

    Pero magisip sisp ulit kayo nang sampung beses pa, bago tumulak paroon sa Sabah. Walang magyayari sa ipnaglalaban ninyo. Ang pinakamagandang hakbang ninyo ay sumunod sa payo nang gobyerno, bumalik na kayo at saka pagusapan.

    • http://www.facebook.com/simoun.magaalahas.10 Simoun Magaalahas

      Hindi duwag na kagaya mo at si Pnoy ang mga Tausug, hindi rin sila basta basta susuko, war freak man sila pero may pinaglalaban sila, hindi kagaya mo na pinakikita mo ang utak mo na nasa talampakan na kagayarin ng presidente mo.

  • http://www.facebook.com/beng.atibo.3 Beng Atibo

    Remember the Lessons from this tragedy. It will start something that is going to be very bad.

  • bogli_anakdami

    malaysians should kill all flip gung gong invaders… then, proceed to ‘tang inang imperial manila and obliterate the entire flipland traposakals, uniformed thugs, and iyutized the kaksaker padre dumbasso heirarchy…

    yun lang…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Q7KLOJ3QMIC27UPZRVEVZDXRGA iym

    Oh screw the sultan kiram. sabah decided long ago they did not want to be part of philipines and if one were to ask them again today one will get the same answer. who wants a senile old man to be the king of sabah and most importantly…who in their right minds want to be part of…. philipines??  

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FB6Q72WB5X4YUEEX5CKVVMR6KA just

      Malaysia should have settled the matter with the Sultanate. There are historical facts and precedence that needed to be properly addressed here. If it has to be heard in the ICJ to settle the matter of ownership, compensation and other socio-economic issues once and for all, then bring it there so this matter does not forever drag and people can live in harmony.

  • deyu

    o.

    • Popskief

      That is why you are not a Filipino. The real Pinoys are unique breed of Aseans and I am very proud to be among them. 

      Thank you for your honesty.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/W6OYQAQ3YNWGE4SIRA4IIQ4Y3Y joshua

    yan depensa na kaagad ang Inquirer at Lapiang Palaka supporters nililigaw ang issue parta pagtakpan ang pagiging inutil ni PNOY at LP. Pinapatay na ang mga kababayan natin sa Sabah ayun at busy si Abnoy sa pangangampanya. presidente ka ba ng Pilipinas o ng LP lang magresign ka na.

  • http://www.facebook.com/simoun.magaalahas.10 Simoun Magaalahas

    History tells us who we are

  • Ju Lee

    Please release the information of who exactly saw Kiram from the Malaysian side, when and where. We wanna know. Thank you. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/hermonvanleey.stovich Okìrck Dè La ‘Çrüz

    i begging to all Filifinos who stayed in Sabah, please get the f*** out from our land! we don’t need terrorist here!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q3QGG5QHBLRMZTIYWUFURY6J2E Night

      FCUK YOU

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/7VO6EHRZHX2LW7Z2NEAQ2223WM chocojam

      If you’re a Malaysian, Sabah is not yours. We have proof!!!

  • IbigMongSabihin

    Noynoy’s`Malacanang already said 3 days ago that there is a possibility that GMA is the one sponsoring the Kirams to go to Malaysia to destabilize Noynoy’s peace process.
    Kawawa talaga itong si Noynoy at laging ginagawan ng malalaking problems ni GMA. No wonder na may simpatiya ang masang Pilipino kabilang ang ibang readers dito sa Inquirer Forum kay Noynoy. Noynoy may be an idiotic president but he is the blessed one.   

  • zeroko

    The government should not resort to the “Divide and conquer technique.” It’s hitting below the belt. I was formerly a domestic pilot with Air Manila way back 1972 when my aircraft got grounded in Sulu. My crew and I were invited by Princes Tarhata in a party held on the roof deck of their City Hall. Among the guest were government officials. As she started her speech, she said, “Those of you who does not like Malaysian music is free to leave.” And the Malaysian music went on. 
    At that time, the Governance of Sulu appreciates the Malaysians more than our central government. They feel that the “Luson Government” has failed to deliver the government services to them. That was the time when a group of government representatives went to an Island in Sulu and it ended in blood bath. The government agents were all killed. It was the time when government helicopters declare a no-mans land in an Island and machine gun any fishing boats they find. One of the Catholic missionary was in verge  of tears because he said, after declaring the island as no-mans-land and while the inhabitants were fleeing, the military helicopter came out of the sky like an “Angel of Death” and spared the pump boats with automatic. 

    Those were the days when soldiers who were caught by the rebels were buried alive and were tortured, And the rebels use a megaphone to make the cry of agony of those soldiers they caught so vividly loud and clear as they torture him to death. And after the soldier dies, his body is desecrated. They normally cut his sex organ and place it to his mouth. This is how brutal the conflict was.

    I also have flown the C-130, a giant propeller cargo airplane and collect the “body bags” of the slain soldiers. It was the the time when I met Senator Gringo Honasan and Red Kapunan, the instigator of the people power when they were still 1st Lieutenant,  I am part of history on those conflict. I also flew the Muslims that former President Marcos gave amnesty and brought them to Manila and gave them their place in Taguig and Quezon City. The former President then thought that by giving amnesty, the Muslims would behave. But, he misinterpret the whole situation. 

    The Muslim’s struggle is as old as our history. It is recovering the land.that they lost. The problem became very intense during the time of Former President Ramon Magsaysay when he encourage landless farmers to   go South (Mindanao) to seek their fortune. No wonder that in General Santos, when I fly as Commercial pilot, the population of General Santos is a motley or mixture of different groups, the Ilocanos, the Pampangeneous, the Visayans, and all sort. And the Muslims, while watching on the side, resented the intrusion of their land. 

    I also felt these when I flew the B-747 in the International route. While in Hawaii on vacation with my family, I was stopped on the hotel aisle by an old chamber maid. She blocked our path and said, “Do you want to see a real Hawaiian?” And I said, yes. I have in mind a wiggling scantily clad young and pretty dancer, when my imagination was cut short. She said, “I am the real Hawaiian.” And she went on with her rhetoric. She said, “Once, this were our land. But when the white-man arrived, they stole the land from us. Now, were are a vanishing breed. Our population is  getting smaller because we do not have any means of livelihood except to serve the white-man.”

    To me, it wordings looks similar to what is happening to the Filipinos in this 21st Century. The real Filipinos, the brown race has been marginalize by the Filipino-Chinese. The Chinese took over our government and our businesses. And the Filipinos has nothing except to work for the Chinese in a very disadvantageous manner. Filipino labor has been marginalize. Other countries call us “A nation of SLAVES.” I really do not know how to solve the inequality. It seems like our situation is like a balete tree. A baleter tree grows near a host tree. First, it grows small roots to surround its host tree. Then as it grows larger and stronger, the roots of the Balate Tree strangle the host tree preventing it to take in nutrients. Then the host tree dies and the Balete tree now can live on its own.

    I’m an Independent Mayor Candidate here in Q.C. I am alone, no political party or anything else. The money I have comes from my pocket. I have retired 15 years ago. I am pitted against a giant establishment if you may call Quezon City Hall local government. Their major allies aside from the Liberal party are the Barangay Council. Our Barangay Council is no longer a-political, as dictated by Civil Service Commission .which says, no government employee or organization should participate or allow themselves to be use as political campaign. No, sir, everyone violates and take  for-granted these provision. In the same token, this too is a violation of the COMELEC Omnibus Code that says, It is illegal to campaign for or against a candidate when one is a government employee. My name is Henry E. Samonte. No. 3 on the line up. 

    I can not afford to remain silent while my opponent is using the entire political machinery to his advantage, both government and the Liberal Party. If you people still believes in Democracy, vote for me because I represent the Silent Majority. My profession aside from a Pilot is, Agriculturist, a salesman, a Landscape Supervisor, and advertising solicitor, a barbershop and beauty Saloon operator, a Aluminum and Glass, Iron works fabricator, engage on Stocks trading, fishing boat, cattle raising, taxi operator, etc. Seldom will you see a person who has immense experience in his life time.

    If I succeed, this will be my last career lease I be cut short by an assassins bullet. It’s time that the voice of the people be heard. What we got in the government is not democratic, it is Oligarchy which meanst the people there are rich and powerful. Give me a chance to represent you people.

    • koolkid_inthehouse

      Why didn’t you run for senator or congressman or governor?  With all those businesses you own now you created jobs for Filipinos.  Expand your business hired more full time workers and run for Senator or President.

      Why are you blaming only Liberal party, blame foreigners?  Filipinos in foreign land got the same treatment because they became successful than the local.  

    • desi derata

      I read your post but I cannot quite get your statement about Honasan and Kapunan being the “instigator of the people power”. Never. Those violent men believed in the power derived from the muzzle of the gun.

      And it seems that you conveniently forget who politicized the locality’s administration that we call barangay. It did not happen yesterday, it was 4 decades ago when young men paraded while holding flags, banners and streamers ala Hitler Youth.

      But you did not see the evil that was sowed and nurtured by that evil marcos. You were like a monkey during those dark days of democracy – see no evil, hear no evil and talk no evil. Tell me again why should I even consider you seriously.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q3QGG5QHBLRMZTIYWUFURY6J2E Night

    MERON PANG PROPAGANDA CONSPIRACY THEORY ETONG GOBYERNONG MONGOLOYD NA ETO!!!!

    WALA YAN! INUTIL LANG KAYO YELLOW TEAM

  • PlumberfromCanada

    buti pa ang intel group, may output kahit paano…ang legal team niSec Dilemma confused..ang palasyo PINAPAUBAYA ( AS USUAL) sa DFA ang issue….LEADERSHIP VACCUM na naman….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CONSPIRACY THEORY TALAGANG MAKAPILI TRAYDOR PARA TATAY NIYA!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

      Sino ang tatay ni Kiram III?

      • nakatutok

        nagtataka nga ako bakit KIRAM ang ginagamit niya e..samantalang ABIRIN dapat….ano ginawa ng KIRAm kay Sultan HAron Narrazid??

  • tita_cacayan

    at ngayon meron na ring entertaiment theory ,pumapel na si robin padilla ,pasok boy abunda “ikaw na”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7VO6EHRZHX2LW7Z2NEAQ2223WM chocojam

    I meant Northern part of Borneo, that’s Sabah

  • Operation Merdeka

    please check nyo sa youtube para malinawan kayung lahat… type nyo Sabah Philippines Story…..
    nashock ako nung napanood ko to…… kaya pala kibit balikat ni Pnoy itong issue nato……. tatay nya ang nagbuko sa malaysian government ang plano ni marcus….how sad…2011 pa vids nato…

    • jga94

      Youtube?Tama bang historical source ang youtube…unless these are news clippings and hisotrical documents….you have heard about propaganda siguro?

      • Operation Merdeka

        ika na magaleng…. siguro napanganak ka nanun….. my dear 2011 pa yung video nato ok…. kawawa ka naman ala kang alam nagcocomment ka….

      • Reign

        malamang isa rin yan sa nauto ng PinoyMonkeyPride.

    • desi derata

      Mali ka.

      Senator Aquino was part of the investigation behind the Jabidah case where young muslim men who were being trained to infiltrate Sabah and to sow chaos and disorder in the island.

      The trainees later found out what was it that they were training for and started to disobey their training officers. Some of them threatened to go to the media. Then, their commanding officer, Col Martillano, ordered his staff to kill everyone of them so that nothing would be leaked to the media but one trainee survived. Hence the investigation.

      Malaysia got angry upon hearing the reason behind the massacre of some 20 muslim men. If you need to blame someone , it should be Marcos or Espino or Undersec Syquio or Rolando Abadilla or one Capt Cirilo Oropesa together with Col. Martillano, one Lt Batalla who became a general. They were the brains behind Merdeka,

      • Operation Merdeka

        Yes your right. But you also know that Sen. Aquino the one who inform the Malaysian government for this secrete assault? Kung hinde nya binuko ang plano ni macuy sana nakuha nanatin ang sabah nuon pa.

      • desi derata

        Hindi na nga kailangang ibuko. The invasion plan collapsed when the trainees to do the invasion backed out.

      • Operation Merdeka

        Mam ang ibig kong sabihin po maliban dun sa operation merdeka na nagcollapsed na sinasabi mo e handa na ang mga philippine navy para sumugud sa saba ito po yung sinasabi kong binuking ni sen. aquino sa malaysian kaya humingi nang tulong sa british kaya ayun madaming namatay sa mga navy natin.. ito po mam…iba po yung ng collapsed na plan..

  • jga94

    One thing that boggles my mind is why after so many decades of this issues being sidlined do they (the sultanate of sulu) decide to take drastic action to claim Sabah? Why? What’s the catalyst?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SMQLSFVDAOXMJEGILHU7XI5PU4 RoelD

      your question why now. okay check your history, the sultan of sulu had given our govt to pursue the claim of sabah, yet  just for words only in fact one former president even planned to withdraw the claim of sabah thru his senator sister who pass a bill to forget the sabah claim, heirs of sultan of sulu have extended their patience, by the cold response of phil govt.kung baga napuno na ang salop sa puro daldal walang gawa. can you blame them.

      • jga94

        Napuno?So you will instigate a situation that is just inviting a violent resolution and for what?Lupa? There are people there leaving peacefully for the past so many years…people who think themselves to be under Malaysian authority…

        You are looking at it from the perpective of the Sultan of Sulu….and while he may have legal basis for his claims….sana isipin nya naman yung mga tao na nananahimik doon….at saka yung mg followers nya….I mean isn’t peace worth everyone’s best efforts?

    • CommonSens6

      jga94 Don’t wait for the answer to come to you. You are like Juan Tamad waiting for the guava to fall! Get up and search the truth for yourself dude!

      • jga94

        Dude….why you have answers yourself? There are things which are beyond the reach of ordinary hardworking people like me (I assure you, I am not Tamad),,,lalo na kung ang hinahanap ko ay facts….not opinions.

        This Sabah issue has been with us for decades….you think that by reading a few articles not even based the viewpoint of the Sultanate (not even taking into consideration the people of Sabah who are the actual inhabitants of the place) makes you know the truth?

        Hijo…wag kang padalos-dalos…haste makes waste….

      • CommonSens6

        My sincere apologies! 

    • PureBloodedPinoy247

      Wala po kasing POLITICAL will ang ating gobyerno Sir. Nakakahiya mang aminin at ipaalala eh, napakagarapal po kasi ng ating MAMBOBOTAS (Senatong/Tongressmen/Mga naupong mga Presidente)…inisip lang nila muna unahin ang pagpapayaman, abusuhin ang kaban ng bayan at tuluyang lumpuhin ang PILIPINAS para magawa nila ang gusto nilang magawa para makamtan ang PAGNANAKAW (PERA)/POWER at PWESTO. Itong sa issue ng SABAH eh nasa kailalim ilaliman ng baol sa National Museum natin po, hindi basta basta pagkakakitaan, hindi madali at wala silang mahihita dahil matatagagalan ang laban…….ganon po ang nangyari! Dahil naman po sa Eleksyon sa Pinas at MALASia, nasulsulan ng OPPOSITION sa politika ang Family ng Sultanete, obvious naman po maski iyong kanilang adviser, umamin na siya ang adviser since two years ago pa. Nataon ba o sinadyang ginawa nila ang pagpunta sa SABAH during the ELEKSYON YEAR dito sa PINAS at MALASia.

      Sana po ay nasagot ko ang katanungan ninyo. Magandang hapon po.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FB6Q72WB5X4YUEEX5CKVVMR6KA just

    Malaysia do not really deserve Sabah as much as the Sultanate of Sulu. It may perhaps benefit everyone if North Borneo is left to fend for itself, as much as Indonesia did so for East Timor or what has also become of Singapore. Should North Borneo eventually becomes sovereign and carve out a path to its own future, ASEAN would be a better place without tribes havng to fight for their own identities, like what is happening now in that part of the world.

  • Reign

    “Wala bang indignation rally? Wala man lang bang pagpapalayas ng Malaysian ambassador? Di ba magbibitiw si Albert del Rosario? Pucha naman. 14 na Pilipino ‘yung pinatay ng mga sundalong Malaysian. “Pangyayari” lang ang tawag ni Noynoy rito. Verbatim yung quote. Nakakaiyak. Di na lang din tumutulo luha ko dahil sanay na ako sa lumbay mula bagay na personal hanggang pambansa.”–Pinauuwi ni Pnoy yung mga Pilipinong bumabawi sa teritoryo ng Pilipinas at kakasuhan ng “rebellion”, anong klaseng kabobohan yo’n??!

    • lolo_Jose

      KUNG NAKAKAINTINDI KA AT UTAK PINAPAGANA, HINDI MO MASASABING KABOBOHAN ANG NAGING DESISYON NI PNOY NA PAUWIIN ANG MGA 
      ALAGAD NG SULTAN PARA SANA NAIWASAN ANG PAGDANAK NG DUGO!!!
      PERO DAHIL SA SULSOL NG MGA MATATABANG TAO SA ME SAKIT NA 
      SULTAN, NANGYARI ANG HINDI SANA DAPAT…
      HINDI KABOBOHAN O KADUWAGAN NA ISIPIN ANG KALIGTASAN NG
      NAKAKARAMI ANG UNAHIN KESA SA PANSARILING KAPAKANAN NG IILAN.
      DAHIL NA RIN SA MGA UMAALIGID AT NAG UUDYOK SA ME SAKIT NA SULTAN
      ILANG BUHAY AY  NAPIGTAL NA HINDI SANA NANGYARI…
      DAPAT TUGISIN ANG MGA TAONG ITO NA NAGUDYOK, NANGATONG
      AT NANULSOL SA HINDI TAMA!!! 

      • Reign

        at kasuhan ng “rebellion”? sinong walang utak ang uuwi para kasuhan ng ganun? KABOBOHAN TALAGA YUN! At walang kapayapaan kung walang katarungan!

      • lolo_Jose

        PAKIUSAP LNG APO, MAGISIP KA NG MALALIM MUNA BAGO KA
        SUMAGOT..HUWAG MONG HAYAAN BUNGANGA MO MAG ISIP…

      • Reign

        ikaw rin. Pauuwiin mo at kakasuhan ng rebellion?! Nice move eh?

      • Labandera1

        tama ka lolo-jose…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/6J6CHRLVQYJHMECQZNTNMY6HQI ROSS

        mali ka si ninoy ang may sala , nag traidor sa bansa ang plano ni Apo na bawiin ang  sabah sa anumang paraan ano ginawa ng hero ng dilaw,,gaya din naman ng tatay niya na makapili ng hapon nmaligtas lang ang sariling yaman, tulad ni corazon protektor ng hasieda Luisita…eto naman ngayong isa pang dugong traidor mamulat naman naman naman 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/6J6CHRLVQYJHMECQZNTNMY6HQI ROSS

        o….pulitika pa ang nasa utak nito…mina murder na ang pilipino, kung hindi bobo si pnoy kumbinsihin ay kakasuhan pa..binawela nga ni corazon itong sabah…sabagay Insik naman at makapili ang lahi  hindi katakataka ikaw ba Insik din lol.

      • PureBloodedPinoy247

         Sana maunawaan din po nating lahat na ang bawat bansa ay mga batas na sinusunod at nirerespeto ng bawat tao at mga kapwa BANSA. Ang MALASia meron silang sariling Batas. Ganun din po ang PILIPINAS, may sarili tayong mga batas. Isa pa rito ay ang tinatawag na TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, ang MALASia at PINAS ay kanya kanyang territory na recognized sa MUNDO/UN at INTERNATIONAL COURT. Ito po ay dapat alamin bago po tayo pumasok sa anumang situation. Pwede po tayong kasuhan pag nagkamali tayo at lalo tayong mapwepwerhisyo at magiging kahiya hiya sa buong mundo.  Iwasan na po sana ang batuhan ng sisi, turuan at murahan/asaran. Wala naman pong patutunguhang maganda iyan kungdi tayo tayo ang nag aaway away. Pinagtatawanan lang tayo ng MALASia at ng ibang mga bansa.

    • desi derata

      “…Pilipinong bumbawi sa teritoryo ng Pilipinas…” ‘sus ko po. Teritoryo ng Pilipinas?

  • pinoypower

    Pulitika ang puno’t dulo ng kaguluhan ngayon sa Sabah. May election dito sa Pilipinas at mayroon din sa Sabah. Dito sa Pilipinas hindi ang May 2013 election ang tinutukoy ko kundi and 2016 presidential elections. Napansin ko na panay ang banat ni Kiram kay Mar Roxas habang si Binay naman ay todo suporta kuno kay Kiram. Ang political operator naman na si Pastor Boy Saycon ay umain na adviser siya ni Kiram. Si Saycon naman ay kasama ni Peping Cojuangco sa COPA. Sa nakaraang 2010 election ang Samar faction ng LP identified with Peping ang naglaglag kay Mar Roxas sa VP race in favor of Binay. Maliwanag na ngayon pa lang ay may maniobra na para sa 2016 presidential elections at ginagamit ang Sabah issue para maimpluwensyahan ito.

    • lolo_Jose

      TAMA KA!!! POLITIKA ANG PINAGHUGUTAN NG USAPING ITO…
      GINAMIT ANG ME SAKIT NA SULTAN PARA SA PANSARILING
      KAPAKANAN NG MGA TAONG NAG AAMBISYON NA PARA SA
      2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/G6MG4QQ3ND6UZSOBMLRHALZ7HI Petwil

    What had happened in Sabah is big intelligence failure. Everyone was caught in surprise, even the President was not aware of it..If he had been aware, he would do all his power to prevent the sultans followers in going there. What intelligence report/source are we going to talk about now? This is all a lame excuse for  those not doing their job, who were with their pants down when the stand off arise.patulog tulog kayo sa pansitan.. Stop this chizmiz.. Better tell it to the marines..

    • Marx Louis Wang

      Akala mo naman may panlaban ka! Sa palagay mo tutulungan tayo ng US? Ang Malays tutulungan ng UK. Kaya tumahimik ka!

      • Reign

        so, kaylangan lagi may tulong ng US? Utak kolonyal ka pala e.

  • lostRunes

    Ang galing! Inqrer to Noynoy’s rescue! Katulad na naman ng Atimonan massacre to kung sinu sinong i interviewhin para siraan ang mga inosente!

    Pag buhay ng tao nakataya “hopeless cause” agad. Hanggang habulan lang pala ng barko ng China kaya ng presidente natin eh. T a ng a!

  • desi derata

    Because some posters here who have some sense of history, have inadvertently exposing a bit of Marcos evil intent. That was 1968, barely 2 years when he was elected. Because of his popularity, even as the Jabidah Massacre was sanitized and the media just forgot about it.

    • PureBloodedPinoy247

      Isa ito sa ating hindi magandang naka ugalian. Hindi na tayo natuto at napakadali nating makalimot at napakadaling mauto (utong utong tunay). Daragdagan pa ng UTANG na LOOB, hay naku hindi na makakabangon pa kahit kailan ang bayang PILIPINAS, lupang sinilangan, pero iba ang nagkamkam (SABAH)!………

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/W6OYQAQ3YNWGE4SIRA4IIQ4Y3Y joshua

    Junk Team Malaysia (AKA TEAM PNOY ) this coming May 2013 elections

    • desi derata

      Gunggong!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/W6OYQAQ3YNWGE4SIRA4IIQ4Y3Y joshua

         gunggong ka rin gising ka pag binoto mo ung Team Malaysia baka pabayaan ka ng mga yan na patayin sa ibang bansa. Si trillanes nga pla di kasama sa Team Malaysia sorry sa Team China nga pla sya hehehe.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/6J6CHRLVQYJHMECQZNTNMY6HQI ROSS

        kilala at halata mo ang  colored blind

  • jga94

    It is so sad and yet so typical of the Filipino to use some other person’s miseray and bad fortune and capitalize on this to further his/her own selfish motives….halahtang-halata that some are using this as propaganda against the govt.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/6J6CHRLVQYJHMECQZNTNMY6HQI ROSS

      wla talagang utak ang ugok na presidente….pinatay na ang mga pilipino….pulitika pa ang nasa utak …motives of who  iboto mo ang gusto mo tulad ka rin ng idolo mo pulitika pa rin ang nasa utak ke muslim o cristyano pilipino pa rin gawan ng paraan hindi yong tatakutin mahaharap sa malaking kaso pag hindi sumuko…binigyan-bigyan pa ng motibo ang Malaysia para sa dhas matapos..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    NOYNOY NINOY HUDAS MAKAPILI  MARCOS IS THE BEST PRESIDENT HE CLAIM ALSO SABAH!

    • Marx Louis Wang

      UNGAS!

  • ratsdick

    Many  posters here are wondering why the Sultanate of Sulu took drastic actions now to press their ancestral land domain claim… well I read in another newspaper that the sultanate’s lease arrangement with Malaysia is EXPIRING this March 2013… eh kaya naman pala… connect that with the Aquino government’s seeming indifference to their cause, kumapit sila sa patalim (they clung to the edge of the knife)…  This Sabah issue shows how our country is so unprepared for the future because we have so many unresolved issues from the past.  Time to buckle down to work and really resolve what needs to be resolved so we can move on and bravely face the future … hindi madali, pero as a sovereign country of a sovereign people, we have to grow up and solve these things… stop relying too much on OFW money to save the day and really reflect on what would it take to make the country progress on the political and economic fronts

  • wawa2172

    ah tiyak yan sabi ni PNoy at ang mga leaders ay sina Gloria, Norberto Gonzales at Misuari. Tanong ko kay PNoy saan naman niya napulot ang balita at nakakulong si the Pandak sa VMCC. Well baka nag FB ang tatlo…he he he

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PRAOQAFWXEKEDGYGGPUJC2RI3M win

    paano macoconvince umalis mga nag standoff sa sabah eh kung makukulong lang at mapaparusahan sila dito, magandang tactics ginagawa nila para lalo matrigger ang emosyon ng mga naandun sa sabah tapos sabi nila dapat in a peaceful way gawin dapat pero mga nirerelease nilang statement sa media eh talagang nakakatulong..
    sana sa investigation tlga nakuha ung “intel”, parang kakasabi lang days ago na magbubuo ng party para sa issue na to hmmm

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/6J6CHRLVQYJHMECQZNTNMY6HQI ROSS

      only in the Philippines.

  • Serom

    This remains a hyphotesis or product of the imagination for as long as no document to support it or no one would come forward to testify on these claims.

    One thing is clear: the incident would draw a big backlash of the administration ticket in Mindanao.

  • Edward Castro

    daming “experts” dito!

  • echelon_guy

    History is repeating itself on the AQUINOS. Indeed, A few of the very important parts of our History is creeping and haunting such name and its offspring. The MORO rebellion was the root cause of the decades of protracted mess and destruction in MIndanao  On top of this issue, the name NINOY AQUINO came in after his expose’ about the Jabidah Massacre. As this gave birth to the MNLF. Afterwards, NINOY became a superstar and became as the “champion” of the masses. Years later, his son NOYNOY now taking the issue with blood in his hands. His nonsense, scare-tactics didn’t work with the strong-willed and determined fighters who are willing to sacrifice their lives in the name of honor and faith, whom his late father NINOY insinuated the tausugs to rise up. The winds of change is taking PNOY on these matters with the twist of fate.Years after, NOYNOY’s mother,  CORY came into power, the country was put into darkness brought by corruption and mismanagement of the NPC, that triggered nationwide brownouts. It took sometime to resolve the issue of brownouts until the RAMOS administration. The hit is…NONOY is bringing back the same POWER CRISIS with bitterness in Mindanao. It was a scenario experienced by filipinos nationwide during CORY’s regime. Another issue, The HACIENDA LUISITA: An issue since the time CORY AQUINO, where CARP was enacted and yet, no land was distributed until PGMA paved way in favor to the farmers. When NOYNOY came in,surely we all know what happened next. HAcienda LUISITA is subject for CARP; on the other hand PGMA and CJ CORONA are imprisoned. The fate of the AQUINOS are intertwined with the affairs of the state. Their names will be much written in the new chapters in our History books. The Philippines today, is the result from the past affairs where the AQUINOS had something to do with it. Sounds strange, huh?? pure coincidence or accident by fate??..

  • Taiko_Kauna

    If you run out of excuses, look for scapegoats!

  • Tun Mohd Firdaus

     tausuq..tausug…tausug….heard a lot about this race said by many
    philipines…. how many science, islamic, sosial research they
    contribute? how many of them are great islamic n science scholar? how
    many of them have win Olympic medal? how many of them are civil right
    fighter?how many of them have hold world title in any field? how many of
    them are creator or innovator that contribute in any modern world dev? 
    if none nothing are great about them…… what i read about them are
    great fighter, warrior, being held high by supporter because they fight
    greatly… but they truth are they had been left behind hundred years
    ago by the development of knowledge… and continue the life of jungle
    people…. what a sad story? my advise, go fight in your country to get a
    good education… only good education can free ur race…. can give u
    greater independent….

    • Abraham Ortiz

      To be a good fighter does not have to be a good students as what tun mohd firdaus says. .The Malaysians  until now  were paying for the lease on Sabah thru Malaysian Embassy in Manila.So , I think you tun mohd firdaus will be the one to go to schools to educate yourself.Got it?Guerrilla warfare ,the Tausugs will never be outsmart by Malaysian army.That is using only the jungle without using airplanes as what the 

      • Abraham Ortiz

        as what the Malaysian are planning to do.Mano o mano ,they can not defeat the Tausugs.They are harden fighters since immemorial .It was because of them that cal.45 was invented by the Americans because the Tausugs can be defeated by just cal. 30 firearms.Got it tun mohd ferdaus?

  • disqus_EWrSdjV1nv

    tausugs are full of s++t. they claim to have 800000 but they can not finish the works? idiots. this the reason why there should be an RH bill. dumami silang lumpo at bobo.

    go! prove yourselves. 100 tausug versus 1000malaysian police. dapat ubos mga malaysian.

  • disqus_EWrSdjV1nv

    i might forget. most of the kirams were armed by the government of the Philippines.

    isipin nyo. may gunban tapos pwede sila magdala?

    ayus ano. :)

  • Maitum

    Ok. Si Aquino na naman.

  • http://twitter.com/coinbearer JeRoMe

    THIS IS SIMPLY BULL SHIT..there is no conspiracy obviously..pls dont attempt to condition our minds…figment of ones imagination…hahaha

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6J6CHRLVQYJHMECQZNTNMY6HQI ROSS

    wla talagang utak ang ugok na presidente….pinatay na ang mga pilipino….pulitika pa ang nasa utak …sabagay Dugong makapili at insik si abnoys

  • MNLFoodcritic

    Actually there’s a 4th group: Aliens from another part of the galaxy are manipulating the Sabah conflict. We’ve sighted several UFOs in the vicinity of Sulu and Sabah before the intrusion into Sabah. We don’t yet have any proof, but we will find them. I think these aliens from another planet do not like Pnoy.

  • Naderev Saño

    This news article has nothing but unnamed sources. If someone doesn’t want to be named, then whatever he or she utters is mere conjecture

  • ang_pagbabago

    If we are to follow Pnoy’s usual logic, this is all being manipulated from Veterans Memorial hospital…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HPGUIIJ44DMCSONOPI4JAEMUZM lex

    abnoy: ” paktay, ano magandang gawin???”
               
    abnoy:” a alam ko na! kasalanan ni gloria ito! he he he, naniniwala pa naman mga bobong pilipino dito he he”

    abnoy:” ilang ringgit kaya matatangap para magign spokesman nila he he he”

  • PureBloodedPinoy247

    Ang mangyayari netoh MNLF/MILF/Abu Sayaff/at mga iba pang muslim groups ang puputakte sa Sabah. Mararanasan ng MALASia ang ginawa nila sa Pinas. Kabayaran din ito ng kaninlang kasakiman sa pagkamkam ng Sabah. Napakaraming problema ng PINAS at hindi natin matutugunan ang alinmang alitan. Defensive mode po tayo at maski nga sa ganitong position eh hindi pa tayo handa at lalong hindi uubra kahit kaninong bansa sa mundo. Pagsasalang sa ICJ/UN ang pwedeng isagawa ng PINAS agad agad para sa Sabah.  Ang panalangin na lang natin eh huwag sanang ilagay uli sa BACK BURNER at tuluyan na itong masunog at maging abo. Ito ang putaktihin natin ng follow-up thru media at issue sa eleksyon. Mabuhay po ang PILIPINAS!

  • Alexalbert Mistisma

     MERE GOSSIPS!

  • beerhunters

    Arrest the the usual suspect(GMA)…..bwa ha ha ha ha!

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