DOJ preparing criminal raps vs Sultan of Sulu, followers

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Justice Secretary Leila de Lima INQUIRER FILE PHOTO

MANILA, Philippines—Possible criminal charges are being readied against the Sultanate of Sulu and his followers who are still in Sabah, Justice Secretary Leila De Lima said Thursday.

“They were given a chance to comeback peacefully. Kung bumalik sila agad, maaaring hindi na sila kinasuhan,” De Lima told reporters in a chance interview.

“Since ngayon na nagmamatigas sila in spite of the personal appeal of the President, then mahirap na sabihin na umuwi na kayo hindi naming kayo kakasuhan,” she said.

De Lima, together with Interior Secretary Manuel Roxas formed a joint DOJ-DILG fact finding committee to determine the liability of the leaders and followers involved in the Sabah conflict.

Both the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) and the Criminal Investigation and Detection Group have been instructed to investigate possible violations of laws by Sultan Jamalul Kiram III, his brother Prince Rajah Mudah Agbimuddin Kiram and their 180 followers in Lahad Datu, Sabah.

Aside from violation of Article 118 of the Revised Penal Code which penalizes inciting to war or giving motives for reprisals, other possible cases that may be filed against Kiram and his followers include illegal possession of firearms, illegal assembly and violation of the Comelec gun ban.

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  • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

    at saan naman ang jurisdiction kung saan nakita ang crime?

    • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

      Sa Sabah daw . . .

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        ahahaha, taas muna nila bandera ng pilipinas sa sabah, then tuloy nila ang charge.

  • Cano Manuel

    They can very much do as they please in their own turf. They ask them to GO home, what for? They are already home… IN SABBAH!

  • isprikitoy

    Comelec Gun Ban sa Sabah? illegal Assembly sa Sabah? it means na ang Sabah ay parte ng Pilipinas..pakilinaw po mam de lima

  • ANdrestaker

    Mga TANGANG TAO SA GOBYERNO… IMBES NA TULUNGAN ANG KAPWA PILIPINO… SYA PA ANG MAGDIDIIN SA KASADLAKAN… HOY ABNOY MAG-ISIP KA NAMAN… FILIPINO ANG MGA YAN.. IMBES NA PARUSAHAN.. APAT SUPORTAHAN .. MGA TANGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA………..

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

       kitang kita ang mga katangahan ng mga nasa gobierno.  Pilit na pinapauwi pagkatapos hinahandaan ng kaso.  eh coo ang uuwi pag ganyan.  Kung ako si Sultan manatili na lang ako sa Sabah and who knows he can regain the ownership of Sabah if he is persistent enough.  The whole world is watching what will happen in this crisis especially now that the Malaysian security forces is tightening its hold on the Kiram forces

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    Mabibilib ka rin sa pagkababoy ni Leila de Lima. Wala syang magawa sa Panamanian rapist. Wala siyang ginawa noong may nag-tip off mulasa Pagadian City as early as Feb 2012. Pero si Sultan, iipitin niya dahil sabi lang ni PNoy.

    And Mar Roxas? This descendant of Spanish conquistadores (Aranetas) who enslaved Filipinos. As if what his ancestors did wasn’t enough, he wants to exterminate the real Filipinos like Kiram.

  • http://www.facebook.com/simoun.magaalahas.10 Simoun Magaalahas

    Halatang walang pakialam ang administrasyong Pnoy sa pinaglalaban ng Royal Sultanante of Sulu sa Sabah, ni hindi rin nila pinapansin ang mga kababayan natin doon na linalapastanganan ng mga Malaysian Authority, Inutil ka Pnoy at sinungaling nagbubulagbulagan ka sa mga nakikita mong situasyon,nasaan ang sinasabi mong tunay na boss mga malaysian ba at hindi pilipino.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

       exactly,  with the way Pnoy is acting this time, it seems that the Malaysians are his boss.  He just doesn’t know that the Malaysians are ;laughing behind his back for all his stupid actions

      • ApoLapullapu

        What the government is now letting go is what Malaysia is waiting to hold.  It seems that Malaysia is now negotiating with the Sultanate of Sulu for a win-win settlement of the Sabah issue.  The Sultanate gets their property back, Malaysia gets their oath of allegiance to the Federation of Malaysia.

  • smartestofall

    we should prepare STUPIDITY RAPS against the president and his STUPID staff!!! ang tatanga! grabe! 

  • ownwrite

    Dahil napahiya si P-Noy, Mar Roxas, at De Lima et al, pagmumukhain nilang mga kriminal ngayon sina Kiram. What a stupid move. It would not save their faces.

    The Sabah issue raised by Kiram and company is vital to any such peace and development talks concerning the Bangsamoro constituency. P-Noy and the members of the Bangsamoro transition commission should not just dismiss this issue. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YMRXSOYS6ZCDDW43HZ4Z2XKVMQ BrAX82

    Benta tlga ang pamilyang Aquino. Un lng masasabi ko.

  • garcia677

    Apparently Pnoy has nobody among his think tank who monitors the internet to ascertain the pulse of the Filipinos anent all issues and concerns that daily crop up that’s why he was never advised to desist from hurting the feelings of the electorates. This issue at Sabah should have been handled through a subtle way whereby the senses of the sympathetic countrymen not be heightened to criticize the government for the fate of the Team Pnoy is placed on the chopping board if the matter runs afoul. 

    Aquino, addition is the dictum of electoral success pero ang ginawa ni de lima ay subtraction na.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Pinoywebmaster Ronie Rosaria Amores

    mali yan, dapat suportahan nga eh

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

    hahaha, nangangamote and DOJ.  What kind of violations the Sultan committed in the Philippines when they are in Sabah?  Illegal possession fo firearms? then why should he not disarm the NPA and the MILF first?  What a stupid government really we have this time.  I think,  the best thing to do this time is for someone to file a case against Pnoy for trreason in not doing anything to stop the chinese in plundering our vast natural resources in the West Philppine sea and in surrendering Sabah to Malaysia which is clearly owns by the Sultanate of Sulu which is rented by Malaysia for decades.

    • ApoLapullapu

      For the RP, it is now goodbye Sabah and the Sultanate of Sulu.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYCOAGIL35OAIRH2T6QH3IZUMY Ike

    Anak ng Tinapay, pwede bang unahin nyo muna yung Atimonan Shootout/Rob-out. Puro kayo umpisa, wala kayong natatapos. Pagkatapos ng Eleksyon nagkalimutan na naman. Pag di napansin ng bayan mamaya magiging General pa yang Si Marantan.

  • akotosac

    sa mga hinde nag-iisip at pina-iiral ang damdamin:

    and ginagawa ng Kiram ay hinohostage and Pilipinas at mamamayang Pilipino sa International Community. Kung kayo ay sang-ayon sa gawain na ito dapat pag-isipan nyo. Kung pasukin ng mga rebelde ang bahay nyo kasama ng pamilyo nyo at humingi sila ng mga kondisyones sa gobyerno, payag ba kayo?

    • ApoLapullapu

      There is no more turning back.  They are not taking the Philippines hostage.  They are just occupying their own land and will not return.  With the Sultanate joining the Federation of Malaysia, PNoy, De Lima and the Philippines will be left holding an empty basket.

    • commontao

      ang kaso lang eh, yang mga malaysians ang pumasok at nag renta ng bahay ng mga kiram at inangkin na nila…kayaikaw dapat ang mag-isip!

    • TOINKZ_06

      Damdaming bayan ng PILIPINAS ito, kung isa ka sa walang prinsipyo at paninindigan at palaging neutral ang posiyon mo, abay walang mangyayari.

      Dapat manindigan and PINAS at ipaglaban ang kanyang karapatan bilang isang soberenyang bansa. Hindi yong ipanatili nalang ang STATUS QUO samantalang isa iyon sa dahilan ng pagkawatak watak ng mga kapatid nating muslim sa katimugan. At walang kaukulang aksyon ng ating gobyerno.
      Kung hindi ngayon kelan?

  • ownwrite

    Beware! All commentators expressing sympathy for the Royal Sultanate of Sulu may be arrested by the NBI or the CIDG for violation of Article 18 of the Revised Penal code which penalizes inciting to war or giving motives for reprisals.

    • PurpleDaisy13

      If the Sultan of Sulu and followers are provoked, threatened, or
      apprehended for arrest and imprisonment against their rights to their
      land property, the Tausugs vs Philippine Army and Malaysian Security
      Forces War 2013 may spark:

      Philippines Military:
      Active Military: 120,000 [2011]

      Malaysian Military:
      Active Military: 80,000 [2012]

      Tausug Population in Philippines: 953,000
      Tausug Population in Malaysia: 300,000
      Total Tausug Population:  1,253,000

    • TOINKZ_06

      Cmon then and another million prisoners without proper and decent prison facility. And definitely this would be a big/great mistake taken by this administration With our muslim brothers who cried and needs help way back then just being ignored to some of our leaders. Sabah is part of PH backyard, if we can solve this, then slowly peace will be in our homeland. Muslims and Christian alike are main stakeholders of this issue.

      Will you wait for another 50, 100 years? This issue will arise for generations and generations to come if this will be just ignored. Better to take stance, what do you reckon ?

    • joshmale2004

      Their action in Sabah will not fall under Article 18. Their activities in Sabah is outside the jurisdiction of our courts.

  • joshmale2004

    Sec. De Lima, although I am not in favor of the actions taken by the Sultan’s people of occupying Sabah, the more I do not agree that these people can be charged and prosecuted on their action. I am not a lawyer but what I understand is that our courts and our legal system can not prosecute nor jail people who committed crimes or violations outside Philippine territory. If you will put them to jail for setting foot in Sabah, I believe this is already outside the jurisdiction of our local courts. I hope I am wrong with this assumption. If you think of charging them with illegal possession of firearms while inside Philippine territory, there has to be a direct witness to the foregoing. If not, it will be a baseless case. And I am sure, no one among the Tausugs will volunteer to be a direct witness.

  • puza65

    mas lalong magkakagulo pag ginawa nyo yan de lima…dahil dyan masisira ang plano nyo sa mindanao…hayaan nyo silang bumalik pero wag nyong kasuhan…at pwede ba SHUT UP..gumaya kau sa malaysia na di sinasabi ang mga plano kayakau nabubutata eh…

  • ApoLapullapu

    Hindi naman sila interesadong bumalik eh.  Hindi na sila pasasakop sa Pilipinas.  Sa Malaysia na nila ipasasakop ang kanilang lupa.  Hindi na magbabayad ng upa ang Malaysia.  Sila na lang ang magbabayad ng buwis at baka isama pa nila ang buong Sultanate.

  • rolandtr

    This is so wrong! Politically wrong. Do not file any criminal case against them. Rather dialogue with them. And help settle this Sabah issue to its fullness. Make this a solidarity issue with Malaysia but not in the sacrifice of the historical claim of Sabah as part of Sulo. Make clear that we are not after sovereignty anymore since the people of Sabah including Filipinos there have opted and been given Malaysian citizenship and because majority of the people of Sabah wants to be part of Malaysia. However, Malaysia must pay for the land. And that money must go to the develoment of Sulo and to all of the heirs of the last Sultan who died in 1936. This is the only Solomonic solution to the issue. Otherwise, some nutcrack will use this again in the fututure. Or a nationalist Bangsa Moro fanatic.

  • commontao

    This Government is sooo stupid! OGAG!

  • Fulpol

    inciting to war?? to whom?

    andun sa Netherlands si Joma Sison…. siya ang i-extradite ninyo…

    stupid BS Aquino and De Lima…

  • http://www.facebook.com/moncsj.moncsj Moncsj Moncsj

    Sec. De Lima, patawarin mo na kami sa mga palabas mo na kakasuhan kung sino sino. Ng tumakas si Ping Lacson sabi mo kakasuhan mo ang mga nagkupkop sa kanya. Ano na ba ang mga nangyari sa mga pulis at militar na nagsabwatan sa Atimonan massacre? Sinabi na ng Palasyo at NBI na mahirap tanggapin ang paliwanag ng mga salarin sa Atimonan (na tunay namang kataka-taka), may kaso na bang kriminal na naisulong ka dito?

  • Guest

    possible charges are being readied against the sultanate of sulu and his followers who are STILL in sabah???

    well, aside from the sultan and some followers who are in the philippines, if there is a crime committed or being committed, the sultan followers are committing the crime in sabah.
    does this mean de lima is saying we have legal and judicial jurisdiction for possible criminal actions committed in sabah?

    then, comelec gun ban?  they don’t even care if there is an election. ;-)

    moreover, since malaysia claims it is theirs, why don’t we let them solve it.
    mas nag-eeffort pa tayo, sa lugar na control naman nila.  kung gusto nilang tayo magsolve, then ibalik na sa atin yung sabah.  we take charge when the problem is in philippine territory.
    but while the problem is in malaysian controlled territory, let them use their resources to solve it.

    ibalik muna natin yung philippine navy sa scarborough shoal.

  • PurpleDaisy13

    If the Sultan of Sulu and followers are provoked, threatened, or
    apprehended for arrest and imprisonment against their rights to their
    land property, the Tausugs vs Philippine Army and Malaysian Security
    Forces War 2013 may spark:

    Philippines Military:
    Active Military: 120,000 [2011]

    Malaysian Military:
    Active Military: 80,000 [2012]

    Tausug Population in Philippines: 953,000
    Tausug Population in Malaysia: 300,000
    Total Tausug Population:  1,253,000

  • KonsensyaNgBayan

    DOJ, WHY? Why should you prepare a criminal raps to the landowner? Kaya lalong lumalakas ang loob ng Malaysia na angkinin ang hindi sa kanila ay ultimong Gobyerno natin ay kumakampi sa kanila(Malaysia). Mula pa kay Manuel L. Quezon ay hindi na ninyo binigyan ng Hustisya ang mga kapatid natin sa Sulu, hanggang ngayon ba ay patuloy ninyo silang aalipinin at aapihin. Kailan niyo sila susuportahan sa kanilang laban. Bakit ang gobyerno natin ay pawang nasa Luzon at karatig bayan ng Visayas lamang, bakit nag-iiba ang inyong pamamahala pagdating sa Mindanao. Huwag na ninyong lagyan ng pagkakahati ang ating lipunan at bansa, ituring ang lahat na iisa lang…Pilipino!!..Ako, ikaw, at tayong lahat mula Luzon, Visayas at Mindanao ay iisa lang..Pilipinong nagmamahal sa sariling bayan!!..”.Aming ligaya na pag may mang-aapi, ang mamatay ng dahil sa yo!!”

  • Rene Corre

    madam secretary, sa halip na upuan ninyo at pagusapan kasama ang mga Kiram, Malayasia lang ang kausap nio,papanu ninyo mareresolba ang problema kung kau lang at ng Malayasia ang nagkakaalaman, di ba dapat umupo kaung tatlo at magusap kau kung anu ang mga  issue? paanu kung sa katigasan ng ulo ninyo ay sabihin ng mga Kiram na ibibigay na lang sa Malaysia ang Sabah at i annex na rin nila ang Sulo sa Malaysia, anu ang gagawin ninyo? Wala na na bang matatalino na nakapaligid kay PNoy ang ang pwede mag advise sa kanya ng isang way para madefuse ang tensiyon sa mga sinabi ni PNoy kahapon? o baka naman nasobrahan lang talaga kau sa talino.

  • bayankopdi

    Sabah is not the property of the Philippines neither is it a part of the Philippines.  It is a private property of the Heirs of the Sultanante of Sulu so the President or the Philippine government should not interfere.  The Malaysian government is paying rent to the Heirs of the Sultanate NOT TO THE PHILIPPINE GOVERNMENT.

  • stanley park

    If Ninoy Aquino did not broadcast Marcos plan to invade Malaysia and retake Sabah…it would have been long settled…Shame to this government… Is it a crime to visit and enter your own property….What would be the Sultan’s crime ? Trespassing? hahaha,,, stupid government…Then if I may follow the line of thinking of this government and Ms Secretary, by filing a criminal charge to the Sultan, you are indirectly acknowledging that Sabah is Philippine Territory.. You cannot file a case outside your own jurisdiction,…if you insist that Sabah is part of Malaysia, then there is no crime committed by the Sultan in the Philippines. So why file charges? Think again…. hahaha

  • herokiller

    Goodbye Sabah. Goodbye Sultanate of Sulu. under Pres. Aquino’s administration. tsk.

  • MYRNA_T

    UNBELIEVABLY STUPID MOVE BY DE LIMA!

  • malek_abdul

    The government is on the verge of creating a new conflict between our Tausug Muslim brothers. Suing the heirs, descendants and followers of the Sultanate of Sulu will result to rebellion by the Tausugs against the Aquino government and the future government unless these people from Sulu will have a genuine support from the Philippine government.

    Instead of supporting the LEGAL claims of the heirs and descendants of the Sultanate of Sulu this government is suing these people. On what offense? You can’t even extradite Amalilio and you want to sue your own people? Am beginning to hate PNoy and his government. Why is this government so afraid of Malaysia. Malaysia should be the one afraid of the Philippines with regards to the Sabah claim because everybody knows for a fact that Sabah really belongs to the Sultanate of Sulu which was arrogated by the stupid and brat Brits and was illegally transferred to Malaysia.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

    mga ganitong statement ang magpapalala ng giyera sa mga muslim brothers natin sa mindanao. palagay ba ni de5 at pnoy madadaan nila sa takutan ang sultan at followers nya? 

  • Htee

    Mar Raxas, Nagbabalak ka pa bang kumandidato sa 2016????
    Hehe….sa ngayon palang TALO KA NA….tatangatanga kahit kelan….
    Utusan ka lang pala….
    You may kiss your candidacy good bye….
    GOOD BYE CHIMOY….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CRIMINAL PALA YUNG NAG SASABI NG TOTOO NA TERRETORYO NG PINAS ANG SABAH MAG DUKIT KA NALANG DELIMA! SOPORTAHAN ANG SULTAN NG SULU SI NINOY AT ANG TATAY NIYA NAG TRAYDOR SA PINOY TAMA SI MARCOS TRAYDOR SI NINOY MARCOS CLAIM SABAH!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    DELIMA MAG DUKIT KA NALANG SAMA MO PRESIDENTE KALBO! STUPID PRESIDENT OF THE PHILIPPINES SASABIHIN PANG FAKE ANG MGA KIRAM YAWA MAKAPILI PARANG HAPON

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NYEKTKZ7GSJNPRDKHTAZRPTFQE Moses

    Sayang ang Tax na binabayaran ko sa mga klasse ng desisyon meron itong opisyal ng gobyerno. I believe there is still a better way of managing this Sabah issue. nakakadismaya!!! nakakahiya!!!

  • txtman

    AHAHAHAHAHA

    INCITING TO WAR?

    ANO DAW?

    THIS GOVERNMENT IS WORST

    THAN MARCOS & GLORIA

    AHAHAHAHAHA!
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    .
    .

    IBA NA TALAGA ANG ISANG

    MALAYSIAN LAPDOG

    .
    .
    LOOKING FORWARD

    TO READ PHILIPPINE HISTORY

    IN 2030
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    .

    IM SURE

    PENOY GOVERNMENT & MEDIA LAPDOGS

    WILL HAVE THEIR RIGHT SPOTS

    AHAHAHAHAHAHA

    .
    .
     PITIFUL

  • divictes

    I thought I’ve heard and seen it all during martial law, but it seems that legal stupidity has no borders.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cors.guiao Cors Guiao

    De Lima again is acting like a puppy to Pinoy, tuta na sunod ng sunod sa amo. Her Atimonan case is not yet over, ang tapang nung una then biglang tumahimik ano kaya ang pinakain ni Pinoy at tumikom ang matalas na bibig. Then now she is again commenting as if  true secretary of DOJ and not of Pinoy. Prepare all the charges you can but nobody will go home alive. Tinakot ba naman sino kayang matinong tao ang uuwi knowing na kakasuhan sila pag uwi. Are they bright or what, these people of Pinoy.

  • randal johnny

    In principle the Sultan of Sulu is right……….If I will be the Sultan of Sulu I will do it again and again as my sovereing rights…….Di Lima is wrong to Charge them……What crime…….No basis…..It never happened inside  the Philippines.therefore it outside our juridiction……… law……….ha…ha…ha…ha…..ha…comico ito si DeLlima………another mickey mouse charge……..ha…ha…ha…ha…….What ever happend I consider the Muslim brother a hero……………….
    ..

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