Marcos won over Cory; Arroyo over FPJ


Inquirer’s Fernando del Mundo’ wrote the last of his  two-part series on Edsa ’86 on Wednesday, which was a recollection of the events leading up to the “Mother of all People Power Revolts.”

Del Mundo’s interview with Roberto V. Ongpin, former trade minister during the Marcos government, was very revealing.

I was a reporter during the martial law period and covered Edsa ’86 from start to finish, and I can’t agree with Ongpin more when he said Ferdinand Marcos won the snap election against Cory Aquino.

“With the (snap) election, a lot of people felt that he (Marcos) lost. You know, he won. In my view he really won,” he said.

Estimates by experts placed Marcos’ lead over Cory by 300,000 votes.

Voters back then, who were as politically immature as now, chose Marcos over Cory because they didn’t know any better.

Most people in the rural areas, who comprise the bulk of the voting population, didn’t know Cory.

She was only popular in Metro Manila and other big cities.

The problem with Marcos was that he wanted to show the United States—which was pressuring him to step down—that he was still very popular with the people, and so he cheated at the polls to show a wide margin.

* * *

Speaking of cheating at the polls to gain a convincing lead over an opponent, Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo did it.

GMA did win over Fernando Poe Jr.; perhaps by a small margin, but she won.

FPJ turned off millions of voters because he shunned meeting with local officials in his campaign sorties and was a clumsy speaker on stage.

I’ve talked with FPJ’s close friends and they all said that he lost because he was too shy to face people.

Gloria’s blunder was to talk with Commission on Elections Commissioner Virgilio Garcillano over the phone to inquire about the results of the voting even before the counting took place.

That historic conversation was tapped and recorded.

The rest is history.

* * *

Senatorial candidate Grace Poe-Llamanzares will suffer the same fate as her father, FPJ.

Llamanzares, who was kicked out of the United Nationalist Alliance (UNA), made a big blunder when she admitted she bears a grudge against Cebuano voters who chose Gloria over FPJ in the 2004 presidential election.


She should have kept her feelings to herself since she’s supposed to be courting their votes.

Her political gaucherie will make voters in other parts of the Visayas and Mindanao, which areas  are Cebuano-speaking, shun her.

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  • John_Galt_II

    Si Tulfing sinusumpong na naman ng katangahan! Medyo napapadalas yata.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TDCMHBV524F4FINOKTTQQYEKMA owel

      Correction, FPJ won over arroyo though not with a wide margin, but still he won.

  • louie

    i disagree. my gut feel is Poe will win.

  • kentohtan

    dapat siguro bugbugin uli itong si ramona.walang kadala dala…

  • parengtony

    Mr. Tulfo has made multiple incredible statements in this piece. But the most amazing of them all is : ” Most people in the rural areas, who comprise the bulk of the voting population, didn’t know Cory”.

  • SG0609

    whatever happened to garci tapes…

  • maypakialamtayo

    nandito na naman ang mga tagasubaybay ni idol mon na bitter, basa ng basa ayaw naman nila sa kinilang binabasa, asar talo na naman! 

    • patriotic_act

      I agree.. I wonder why these people continue to read mon’s articles if they find it repulsive all the time.. maybe the truth is they admire mon, they just cant admit it and just wanted to “may masabi lang” mentality to “look intelligent”.

      I rarely read mon’s articles.. I enjoy reading the d*mb comments below it more.. as they are the reason why mon continues to be popular.. and ofcourse.. continue to receive paychecks from inquirer.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/N2QA6YVV4JWJWH5OZ75MC5Y3ME BS

        Because these yellowtards were ordered by Carandang paid-PR group to just put comments on every section of the inquirer be it pro-penoy or anti and make sure to insult (and not even criticized ) the reporters/columnists who writes negatively. Try to observe and criticize the abnoy government during weekends or holidays and you will be amazed how few or even zero reply from them. Observe during weekdays especially office hours and they will swarm you with personal insults for every negative comment you write. Remember Drilon pronouncements of campaign strategy ? He announced that they will campaign more thru cyberspace ( twitter,email,social media,sms) . And these bashers are their paid-PR groups. It is a strategy that works to condition the mind of the voters and undecided voters. Expect more propaganda emails and paid surveys in favor of these groups as they were effective during the 2010 presidential election. This is also the campaign strategy of Sen. Serge Osmena. Propaganda surveys plus sms plus emails plus social media.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PM6JHCFR2KT2AURMWRDUXBNLQY Darwin

        Noytards enjoy picking fights because in everything else, their patron saint turned out to be such a dud.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ETIVE4H6I7ZVBAL72HE3VLGCA4 nicosan

    go claudine!!

  • Yobhtron


    • adscity_info

      And that’s the obvious. :-) With a large margin.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/3AXROSN6LN5YP66EONOKGSSYFY Ngiping Dilaw

        That’s obvious , with a large blackeye. joke lang!

  • Noel

    Marcos won over Cory not just by 300,000 votes but about one million.  People’s minds were conditioned into believing that Cory won.  Even before the snap election, the Yellow Brigade supported by US-CIA warned the people that if Marcos won, he cheated and if Cory won, it would be a clean election.  Cory only had the most votes in Metro Manila where she was popular mainly because of Cardinal Sin’s help.  In the provinces, people still voted for Marcos because Cory was unknown.  Days after Marcos was ousted, people in the provinces thought Marcos was still the President.  

    • Dexter Red

      Strongly agree! Until now my Aunt recognize Marcos as her only President. hahaha

    • patriotic_act

      It was actually true.. most of the time kasi yung mga tao dito sa metro manila lang ang nagpi-people power.. akala nila andami nun, usually kung isasama mo yung mga supporters ni Marcos sa lahat ng region at probinsya eh sa kangkungan pupulutin yung mga taong pumunta sa edsa nung People Power 1..

      parang yung Edsa Dos.. puro tagarito lang naman sa metro manila ang nagpunta dun eh, puro mga hakot ng makati business club at mga estudyante at aktibista.. kaya nung Edsa Tres eh naging matalino si Gloria at pinaharang nya yung mga barkong papunta dito dala yung mga supporters ni Erap galing sa visayas at mindanao.. kung nakarating dito lahat yung mga yun baka naging katawa tawa tayo sa buong mundo.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/3AXROSN6LN5YP66EONOKGSSYFY Ngiping Dilaw

        Yan din ang punto ko. Kaya nga bakit daw ibinoto pa ng mga tao ang mga Marcos ayan nasa poder uli sila. Kasi nga yung mga nasa EDSA people power ay hindi kabuuang bilang ng populasyon. Ilang percent lang ng populasyon yung nada EDSA people power. Mas marami ang maka Marcos. Ang lakas ni Marcos sa mga probinsya. Akala nila komo marami ang nasama sa rally nina Cory e wala ng maka Marcos. Bakit daw pumangalawa pa si Erap noongn2010 election? E si de Venecia nga TKO noongmlaban nila ni Erap eh. Nagtaka pa sila.

      • patriotic_act

        yep indeed.. yun din ang sinabi ng mga tao sa mga probinsya.. usually mga nagpi-people power eh mga tao lang dito sa manila.. eh wala pa sa 1/4th ng populasyon yun eh.

        si Erap nakuha pa rin nya yung almost 10M na boto na nakuha nya nung 1998.. nabawasan lang ata ng ilang libo, ibig sabihin ba kung yung mga bumoto kay Erap nung 1998 eh pumunta lahat sa Edsa Tres eh for sure sa kangkungan pinulot si GMA.

        yun ang mali dito.. masyadong nasensationalize yung mga ginagawa ng mga taga metro manila lang kasi sila yung nacocover ng media.. yung mga gustong sumoporta kila Marcos at Erap noon eh walang power na sumporta kasi anglalayo nila.

        Pero bilib talaga ako kay GMA kasi di nya pinayagan yung mga barkong papunta dito nun para sumama sa Edsa Tres.. atleast naging presidente sya ng 9 years

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ELGS2BPKJKG5PDWJAOOCF7K5KI Albert

    No matter who wins the result is the same…..nothing changes. The rich still get richer and the poor already spent their 500 peso election baon.

    • oidkcin

      Very fatalistic view but very real. I often wonder & dream of real people leading a progressive Philippines. With this kakistocratic regime & the ayatollahs & ruhollahs typifying the candidates of both parties led by the abnoydski pwesident, you & I can only shake our heads in disgust.
      Impeach Aquino….& her brother.

  • adscity_info

    Indeed, GMA won over FPJ even she didn’t make a call to Garci.

    • Noel

      I hate GMA.  I wanna be clear about that.  But in fairness to her, she indeed won over FPJ by about 200K.  Since it was a small margin, she wanted the victory to be more credible so she cheated.  Her victory was largely due to INC votes which decided to endorse her after Lacson and FPJ failed to unite against her despite INC’s ultimatum.  Had either Ping or FPJ given in by agreeing to run as Vice and then INC supported one of them, GMA had no chance of winning. 

      • patriotic_act

        I have INC friends and this is actually true.. the INC gave their votes to GMA because FPJ and Ping failed to practice what the INC preach “unity” so GMA indeed won.. but a small margin it is indeed.

  • EstingMagwejueting

    “Grace Poe-Llamanzares up in SWS poll—spokesman”….Mon, your credibility is fast decreasing!!!..Nasobrahan ka yata nina Claudine at Raymart!!!

    • Alex Alvarez

      sus ginoo, saan ba ginanap ang poll? In Cebu?

    • TeabagDeluxe

      SWS? Yan yung survey company na kamag-anak ng mga Cojuangco-Aquino ang may-ari di ba?

  • jahred

    hey inquirer moderator !


    can u banned this people comment pls …

    They Make me laugh to the max . 0(‘-‘)0

    • patriotic_act

      I believe Mon himself will oppose that if ever.. as it is his only proof he is still “mabenta” and should continue writing articles here.

      • jahred

        i respect anyone here !

        in god’s eye’s im really bangged up in reading those comments

        even the people in our house ask me why im laughing out loud

        and my ‘ pangga ‘ said to me …

              Nabuang Naka ? 0(‘-‘)0

        i said to her ..,

        Nothing ! ” Im Just Reading News “.

        And Now Ngiping Dilaw adds up to the club

        and this one …

        sana maglagay ang philstar ng bagong column…”isumbong mo kay raymart”!

        courtesy of ” k ” 0(‘-‘)0

      • patriotic_act

        I myself enjoy reading the comments more than the article itself.. lalo na yung mga tira ng tira kay mon pero di naman mapigilan ang sarili nilang basahin pa rin yung mga sinusulat ni mon dito

      • jahred

        i think No One Will Follow his footsteps if the respected journalist cant handle that simple comedic opinion

        and they are well known now in this field :

    • adscity_info

      How dare you to include me in your list? So what if I make you laugh? Is that a valid reason to be banned here? Who are you to command here?

  • doublecross

    ‘arroyo over FPJ”……

    arroyo nagnakaw ng boto para kay FPJ, fake president…..magnanakaw!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3AXROSN6LN5YP66EONOKGSSYFY Ngiping Dilaw

    Natalo si Fernando kasi mahina makinarya nya. Mga local officials at Barangay captain ay maka Arroyo. Tapos urong sulong pa si Fernando. Tila kakandidato tila hindi. Matagal bago nagdecide na kumandidato kaya yung iba nangako na ng boto sa kalaban nya. Tapos kumandidato pa si Lacson kaya nahati pa ang boto. Tapos dinala ng INC si Arroyo.

    • joshua kings

      eh ganun pala, bakit nag-hello garci pa yang idol mong bulok? was she not a cheat then?
      let me remind you:’she promised early on on national tv that she will not seek reelection…
      what happened? well she lied…and one who lies is called a liar, right? you can check that in the dictionary.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/3AXROSN6LN5YP66EONOKGSSYFY Ngiping Dilaw

        Nakoooo,nagsalita! Hello Garci. Bakit yung bang NAMFREL na super bias pabor kay Cory, na kahit talo si Cory ay panalo pa rin sa bilang ng NAMFREL! Tigilan ako no? O di ba at lalong yumaman si Joecon! hahahaha! Nakikita mo iba di mo nakita ang manipulation ng NAMFREL! kunwari pa e laging may mga madre na bantay! Saan ka puro kadayaan din naman. Pweeeeeee! kadirrrrriiiiiii!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3NJ4IIZZMB2OMPIOR7X2B72ME k

    sana maglagay ang philstar ng bagong column…”isumbong mo kay raymart”!

    • tita_cacayan

      ” Banatan mo claudine ”  sa editorial naman

  • diamond_digger

    Not only do I disagree with Mon’s ideas in this column but am aghast at his declaration of his belief that Marcos won over Cory Aquino. His opinion with regards to GMA’s win over FPJ may have some points but not in his first. How could the EDSA revolution be as successful in so short a time and without so much bloodshed were it not for the fact that people who truly felt Marcos cheated on Cory and decided to cast away their personal fears and trooped to EDSA to join the revolution. Besides, didn’t the canvassers who walked out and discontinued the tally of the election results exposed the massive cheating perpetuated by the then administration of Marcos? If Tulfo who claims to be a reporter during those dreaded years of Martial law should have known the feelings of the people at that time, unless during those times he was already a “i, me, mine” person  as he is now.

    • TeabagDeluxe

      Marunong ka bang magbasa? Sa tingin mo sa buong Pilipinas ang pumunta sa EDSA revolution? Karamihan ng tao doon, mga taga-Maynila at malalapit na probinsya.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ERCCN5ANNNF7BEBFMYXR6ALGRU Dan

        you must be one hell die hard ilokaok marcos loyalist, i cant blame you, you are what majority ilokaoks are

      • diamond_digger

         It would be an honor to argue and debate with somebody who has brains, unlike you, Teabag, whose brains, obviously, could only fit in a teabag. Thanks , Bobo!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ERCCN5ANNNF7BEBFMYXR6ALGRU Dan

      Tulfo who? puleeeeeeseeee

    • ThudOthwacker

      Read the Mossadegh coup. The parallelism of events leading to the ouster are undeniable. In fact some RAM members admitted that they had been planning the coup a year before 1986 with the US liberals’ blessing. 

      The Namfrel objectives is to sow confusion. By trending vote counting in favor of Cory. Setting the illusion of Cory winning the election. Even declaring the number of people in EDSA in millions is false too.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7W7IOOVSMXPI4IM4SMGC47FS7I larry

    talking about election cheating, why not ask some people in TESDA(formerly NMYC) who are now senior officials, what they did in February 1986 snap election count and who was the VIP with them during that time

  • w4d

    Nice to see how smart the Cebu voters are going to be this coming election. Cong. Anabel Rama, anyone? LOL…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ERCCN5ANNNF7BEBFMYXR6ALGRU Dan

      not in a million chance that this freaking loudmouth rude obnoxious betchy woman named anabel rama will win, the cebuanos are just not like voters in luzon, case in point, lapids, revillas, ejercitos estradas, bongbong, etc etc etc,the list is far too long tomentions all of them

  • $5699914

    “… I can’t agree with Ongpin more…”

    Mr. Tulfo, may mali yata sa grammar mo….

    • TeabagDeluxe

      Walang mali sa grammar ni Tulfo.

      • $5699914

        Sabi mo eh…!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ERCCN5ANNNF7BEBFMYXR6ALGRU Dan

      what are you an english grammar expert,? youre dead wrong, stop blogging youre a pinoy edyot

      • $5699914

        Come on, don’t insult yourself too much.
        Take your meds then enough rest, okay?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RWPOD4ER5LJPDQU3N32NAC74X4 johnnie r

    FPJ lost because LACSON split the opposition votes, garnering 3M votes that should have been meant for FPJ, hence thanks to PING, he lost by 1M votes to GMA. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

      namera lang si ping noong 2004

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

    gringo’s wife has the answer on ’86

  • okabato

    Another blunder by Tulfo to say that Cory was not well known in the barrios, towns and provinces. In fact Cory was propelled to popularity by the murder of her husband Ninoy. FPJ was defeated by GMA by the “votes” of Maguindanao have you forgotten hello Garci.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AF57IVWEAAKPM53UXZH6FZNLWM CarlosC

    So we believe Ongpin now, because Tulfo said so? Ha ha ha!
    Ongpin and the former Marcos cronies and lackeys have no credibility even after thirty years or so… the Marcoses and their ilks are only dreaming that they can come back again. No doubt using their formidable ill-gotten wealth to buy a favorable history. But then, they cannot buy all people, and the truth comes out, no matter how much their money is.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AND7MQ5FERICDOIAUW56RYT45A tower_of_power

    NAMFREL is an agent of cheating … sila ang nagpauso ng trending … first, canvass those places where their candidates are expect to win  … show the trend …. stop the counting!!!! Proclaim their candidates as winners … no need to continue counting kasi nga pangita na sa trend  … hahahahahaha!!!!

  • ThudOthwacker

    If you asked reinvigorated Joe Concepcion. Cory won with a big margin. Bigger than the flour hoarding earnings. Biggest than the product selection offerings of RFM and Concepcion Industries post-Marcos and Cory era.

    The guy is good in numbers. He was after all the chairman of CIA covert funded operation A.K.A. Namfrel. 

    “GMA did win over Fernando Poe Jr.; perhaps by a small margin, but she won.” ~Ramon Tulfo

    You have a better odds winning in a lottery, than predicting the place and the favored result.


  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MZOKC6X7Q52Z4E5VLYNB7GF72Y Kaloy

    My feeling before reading this article of  Ramon Tulfo was  pity him because of what Claudine and Reymart did to him at the airport some few months ago.

    But after reading his column today, my immediate reaction was: Buti nga sa iyo nagulpi ka nina Claudine, usisero ka kasi.

    • Pitbulldog

      Asus ganyan naman kayong mga naninilaw ang mata.  Komo tama ang tao at ayaw ninyo paniwalaan, galit na kayo.  Mga engots na dilaw talaga, super kitid ang utak.  Nakakahawa ang ka-abnoyan talaga….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

    FPJ lost because Ping Lacson ran, and divided the votes of the opposition. GMA didn’t need to cheat. FPJ lost even in his very own barangay.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza


    • eorlando

      Teretoryo natin – means the Philippines and Sabah is HIS.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

    ….and you all can check the Comelec website….the official Comelec count showed Marcos won. The final Namfrel tally also showed Marcos won. But majority believed there was cheating, hence, the People Power.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1817810879 Raul Batallones

    How can you have a real count if one party cheated. It never mattered who won on that election because Marcos and his cronies tainted it. This is why the people’s will won and overthrew Marcos. He lost his credibility after more that 20 years of trying to cling to power. I should know I grew up during the marcos era.

  • Pitbulldog

    Nakukuha lang kasi sa ingay yan tulad ng gawain ng oposisiyon nung panahon ni Macoy, at nito ngang kay GMA.  Of course, Marcos has to go that time.  He should have left his post after 2 terms.  His mistake was trying to perpetuate his hold on power.  Had he just kept the usual turn over of governments thru legitimate elections, he could have ended as one of the best presidents this country ever had.  His first 2 terms in office had been good to the country economically and even militarily.  Nagsuwapang lang kasi ang pamilya kaya ayun. Sana binigyan niya ng tsansa na mapatunayan ni Ninoy na nationalistic talaga siya o another pulitiko din lang..

  • Pitbulldog

    Perhaps that is why the computer specialists walked out.  Di nila ma-take na lumalamang nga si Makoy, he he. pag nanalo legally kasi, useless na plano nila Gringo….

    • Noel

      Simula nang napatay si Ninoy, nag-umpisa na ang plano para mapatalsik si Marcos.  Pilit na sa kanya ibinintang ang pagpatay samantalang ang tunay na utak ay buhay pa ngayon.

  • http://www.facebook.com/edward.curtis.167 Edward Curtis

    Marcos won over Cory? In your wildest dream, Mr. Roberto Ongpin who is a prime suspect in the . dBP behest loan scam ditto with Mike Arroyo. The person who was the project director of the computerized tabulation of ballots held at the PICC was my close relative and he admitted to us that he was instructed to cheat the tabulation the results of which showed Marcos the winner. Marcos won over Cory?

    Arroyo won over FPJ? That is also the line of Garci, a corrupt official under a corrupt Arroyo administration.

    • Adam_d_langgam

      he he he  .. “close relative” … ” friend of a friend”  … sus me  .. sabi nito sabi sabi.

      ongpin put his life on the line to go against marcos.  then the phils was known as a country with 45 million cowards under the thumb of one sob ….

      marcos won over cory?  i don’t know.  but there are still idiots out there doubting gma’s win over fpj  … the visayas gave gloria a big lead.  not a single tricycle driver or a tindera/tindero sa palengke from where i was from admitted voting for fpj  .. then gloria’s name was not so tainted yet.  only a simpleton would choose fpj over gloria.

  • Ari Putan

    Depota !

  • Juan Luna Ibarrizto

    You are way out of your skull. What are you smoking BTW? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5UOZM4PWIDKO7G64HL3PPMXUTM Constantine

    With the latest result of SWS survey showing Poe in a better position, i wonder how Tulfo can justify his comments. Mukhang nakuryente na naman si Tandang Tulfo e. Hala baka suntukin ka na naman dyan ni Raymart puro iyak lang naman ang sagot mo, he he he!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2RVERYUPGBL4EHNMB2QNIQTFS4 Boying

    Granting that it is true the Dictator won over the Saintly Housewife. Question, how many of these votes were the product of coercion and intimidation not to mention the massive vote buying?? Please stop your revisionism and cut the CRAP!!!!

  • JasonBieber

    The ‘Hello Garci’ incident is problem one of the most misunderstood incident in the Philippine history.

    It’s appreciated that this author was fairly honest to write that GMA indeed win and the only mistake was to inquire about the results prior to the counting.

    People believe the ‘Hello Garci’ and the apology that followed was for a crime or cheating. The apology that GMA gave was for the blunder of inquiring of results prior to the counting NOT for cheating. Should GMA have call Garci…probably not…was it cheating or a crime…NO.

    Many people talk about the ‘Hello Garci’ incident and use it to attack GMA without being properly informed on what actual transpired in the incident.

    • Noel

      GMA knew she was winning but she wanted to make sure she won by a huge margin.  She actually won by only about 200K.  But this number would certainly create doubts on people. 

  • Barangkuag

    Mind conditioning again Tulfo?

  • jElly_aCe

    nag walk out mga nag cocomputer noong araw kc nakikita nila na tlaga panalo c marcos at nde nila matanggap un kc ng panahon na un punong puno sa drama ang mga tga maynila, nag iiyakan at nag bibigayan ng food. ang mga pinoy mahilig sa drama at himala, konting sindi at suhol lang uusok agad at lalabas ang sangkaterbang luha at ka dramahan.

    • Noel

      Orchestrated and lahat pati na ang sa Computer Center.  Sa pagpayag sa snap election na napilitan siya nang hamunin siya ni Ted Koppel ay alam natin na luto na ang lahat.  Pakana ng Amerika kasabwat ang mga Aquino, Simbahan, mayayaman sa negosyante sa Makati.  Eh si Marcos din ang dapat sisihin.  Matalino nga pero naisahan.  Mayabang kasi.

      • AllaMo

        LOL. Siguro tulad mo, gaggo rin.

      • Noel

        Sinira mo ang Islam sa pagmura.  Gamit mo pa ang pangalang Allah.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5STEU22AD7YRHQSB6RE56ZDSYA J

    Past is past. Let’s see who will cheat this time.

  • 808reader

    Mr. Tulfo, how can you assert that both Marcos and Arroyo won their respective elections but at the same time admit that they cheated? I think what you’re trying to say is that both Marcos and Arroyo would have won anyway even if they did not cheat. That is very difficult to prove since the election ballots were tampered with. What is easier to prove, if it hasn’t already, is that both Marcos and Arroyo won their elections because they cheated.  

    • Noel

      Please read what he wrote twice.  Both won but still cheated to increase the margins so that it would look more credible.  

      • AllaMo

        And, the cheating made the cheated elections more credible? ROTF LMFAO! You realize, you just shot down your whole foolish lemma.

      • Noel

        No.  I still maintain my position that both won but cheated to get more votes.  Call it greed if you want.

  • eorlando

    If Marcos won fair and square then why was he ousted? I guess winning by vote buying, by intimidation, and by the controlled commission on election plus the military is still WINNING. People forgot that they printed several paper money with the same serial number. What do you think that was for and who do you think did it? and this is just the obvious. Revising history is probably very lucrative these days – In preparation of Bongx2 – 2016 ? Never again! A few silver coins is just not worth another 20 years of oppression.

    • Noel

      People’s minds were already conditioned before the election.  Through the help of western media (CIA backed) and local media operators including Namfrel headed by yellowish Joe Concepcion, people were warned that if Marcos won he cheated and if Cory won it was clean.

      • Irene Wong

         Noel, I agree with you… AMEN..

      • AllaMo

        Fools in agreement. Like the mountain birthing a mole. LOL!

      • eorlando

        Give me a break! People were conditioned about cheating by Marcos and the KBL. they cheated for all those years–  even kids knew that Marcos was a cheat from way back. They faked an attack, jailed people, and killed their opponents. Cheating on election was not that difficult for these people. The Filipinos did not need Namfrel nor the CIA to know who were the cheaters and the corrupt. Only the deaf, blind and dumboes that did not know Marcos was a cheat.

      • Noel

        I’m gonna give you a break so you could gather your nerves in the brain.  First of all, how old were you during Martial Law and even before that?  Even the kids knew Marcos was a cheat?  The kids at that time or the kids today?  What they hear are all being told to them many of which were lies and baseless.  Marcos won convincingly against Macapagal and even Osmena.  He could have cheated on the later part of his years but it could have been done by Imelda and her cohorts so that Marcos stayed in power.  If Marcos stayed, so was Imelda and her corrupt family.

      • eorlando

        Sir I was one of those kids at that time. Mayors got sacks full of money to buy votes – KBLs especially, my neighbors were really “happy”- News paper showed picture of 100 peso bills with the same serial number. Goons running around. They even given out t-shirts with “presidential guard” print etc.. etc. I know you are one of those Marcos kababayan loyalist but you do not have to deny their evil machinations.  Maybe in Ilocos Norte Marcos did not have to cheat but elsewhere is another story. You can blame Imelda but it was Marcos who proclaimed Martial Law to keep himself in power. Popular presidents do not have to hide behind martial law to remain in power.

  • repapips

    ulul ka talaga tulfo.

  • speaksoftlylove

    This time, I will agree with you in all three issues that you raised. Actually, I really didn’t care when FPJ lost the election. Though it’s rude to malign the memory of the dead, I am not maligning him but just stating a fact. I am a race aficionado, so too was FPJ. He had two winning horses in his stable namely Lord Joseph (named after Erap) and My Lady Grace (of course named after Llamanzares). His permanent jockey was the Eduardo Domingo, Jr. When his horse lost as an outstanding favorite, a rather inebriated FPJ rush to the weighing stand and confronted Jockey Domingo, drew his gun and threatened to shoot him. If it did not happen in front of the racing public, Jockey Domingo would have been a dead meat. Turned out that his horse suffered a minor heart attack and vomitted blood so Jockey Domingo was forced to stop the horse from running to save it’s life. Di man lang binigyan ni FPJ ng panahon na magpaliwanag yong jockey samantalang milyon milyong pera na ang naiakyat ng jockey sa kanya. I was a fan of FPJ not because of his machine like fists in the movies but because I thought then he was a symbol of humility. Parang sine, laging kawawa pero kabaliktaran pala lahat. Kung totoong biological daughter si Grace, nakakatakot kung minana niya yong lihim na totoong ugali ni FPJ.

    • Noel

      Tutoong kapag lasing si FPJ ay nagbabaril siya.  Iyan din ang ginawa niya minsan sa Makati sa loob ng isang bar.  Nagpaputok siya sa loob na parang sa sine.

  • Zim

    Maraming bobo dito na hindi naka-intindi ng binasa nila. Opinyon nya yun, anong pakialam nyo? Wag nyong basahin.

    • AllaMo

      LMFAO. Ikaw nga diyan kaya, yung bobo mo isiniwalat mo pa dito.

      • Zim

        at ikaw ang pinaka-una sa bobong tinutukoy ko… magbigay ka rin ng opinion mo, wala akong pakialam.. apektado ka? hahaha!

  • disqusted0fu

    Was there any cheating when GMA won against FPJ? I don’t think so. All it was was a phone call to Garcilliano inquiring about the poll results, nothing more. It was just a hyped up incident by the media and by political opponents of GMA back then to make it appear to the Filipinos that GMA actually cheated, when in reality it was just an inquiry.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SAGKZON3CUMS2QVBSXOIK3KM64 J Mapagmahal

      talaga lang ha, inquiry na to make sure lamang sya ng at least 1 million? you’re right, it was just inquiry, nothing more. ang aang aang, ang aang aang, ang aang aang! lol

  • bisdakis

    Cebuanos do not need to cheat to bury Fernando Poe in the elections. We bisdaks are intelligent voters and can differentiate between movie and reality! Grace Poe will be buried deeper than his father by the Cebuano electorate this coming election. Better for her to campaign in Luzon where majority of voters are showbiz fanatics and political bobos! Not even Erap, Jaworski, Sotto, Revilla, Nolie de Castro, Lapid. and other showbiz people have survived in Cebu.

  • Crystalbabao

    Kaya ka nagugulpi. Mahilig ka gumawa ng kwentong barbero para paboran ang mga nagbabayad sa iyo. Grace Poe never castigated the Cebuano voters. Very clearly, she said thatthe blame was on the few officials who cheated on her father. Watch her speech again.

  • JK1000

    Mon, what do you expect from Ongpin’s mouth ? Ofcourse he’ll say that his boss won that election. To make it worse, YOU also fooled by Ongpin in believing that Marcos won . Eversince you hated the AQUINO’S ,is it because they’re not easy to bribe by journalist like you who most people in the media takes bribes too and always waits outside the politicians offices just to receive gifts and money. How come you never show your LOUD MOUTH in exposing corrupt politicians during the brutal Marcos years ? Are also afraid of them ? You,HYPOCRITE !

    • ngidigop

      Pre pasensya na dyan kumikita si tulfo. Habang binabasa natin ang kanyang column, gusto sya ng pamunuan ng PDI.

  • JK1000

    Mon, one more thing . Remember your Idol Juan Ponce Enrile, Admitting during the press conference inside Camp Aguinaldo ( 1986) after he seek refuged inside the camp by saying Marcos cheated on the election . Are you that dumb and stupid to believe Ongpin’s story.

  • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

    Hindi ka na ba nagtanda Tulfo? Mahilig ka sa tsismis kaka video ng mga taong wala ka namang pakialam kaya ka nabugbog. Ngayon, kahilig mong gumawa ng istoryang hindi naman nangyari sa Cebu. Magbago ka na!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TNASVGXZ23VCJWV7KO7WPDIKKI George

    tatang mon, concentrate na lang sa story about the days of your father the colonel, the invincible phil. constabulary and nobody cares.  other than that, your “those were the days stories” are full of b.s.

  • pabloo6293

    this is a lot of bull….

  • AllaMo

    ROTF LMFAO! Talk about a snake speaking with a forked-tongue. tulfo, you are plain ridiculous.

    • Zim

      Apektado? Sulat ka rin ng opinion mo!

  • edwinablola69

    Tatang Mon, does Grace Poe an American citizen? Did they all live in the U.S.A?

    • Noel

      Grace Poe lived and studied in the US for many years and she’s an American citizen.  She admitted this in nationwide TV (you might be inside the toilet when she said this on TV).  But she claimed to be a dual citizen and that she renounced her US citizenship at the US Embassy when she decided to run as Senator.  True or not, we don’t know if she did it.

  • archerfan

    Marcos won that snap election and the US knows that.  Ang naging mali lang talaga ni marcos eh naging nationalistic na sya, yung love your own country na sya, eh ayaw ni unlce sam ng ganun.  thats when they cooked up EDSA revolt kuno, featuring yung mayayaman na pamilya na lalong nagpayaman nung sila na nakapwesto.  the rest is dark history for the pinas.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

      WHAT? Anong “love your country na sya” ang pinagsasabi. Sige nga! Paki eksplika mo?

  • novaliches

    The truth is nangyari ang Edsa1- 1986 dahil kay Enrile, palitan niyo na ang history hanggan gusto niyo, pero yung mga nabubuhay noon alam ito. kung  gusto ng tao ang Edsa, bakit walang Edsa nang napatay si Ninoy (1983).
    Kahit gusto ng mga aquinos na mag-alsa ang tao, kaya nga hindi nila nilinis si Ninoy, at puno siya ng dugo habang nakaratay, hindi pa rin nag-alsa ang tao. 

  • Komen To

    If I use guns goons and gold to force people to vote for me (even snatch ballot boxes to switch votes) and at the final tally my name ends up with the highest count, I won the election, right? Isn’t the final tally the basis of proclamation?

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