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Marcos won over Cory; Arroyo over FPJ

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Inquirer’s Fernando del Mundo’ wrote the last of his  two-part series on Edsa ’86 on Wednesday, which was a recollection of the events leading up to the “Mother of all People Power Revolts.”

Del Mundo’s interview with Roberto V. Ongpin, former trade minister during the Marcos government, was very revealing.

I was a reporter during the martial law period and covered Edsa ’86 from start to finish, and I can’t agree with Ongpin more when he said Ferdinand Marcos won the snap election against Cory Aquino.

“With the (snap) election, a lot of people felt that he (Marcos) lost. You know, he won. In my view he really won,” he said.

Estimates by experts placed Marcos’ lead over Cory by 300,000 votes.

Voters back then, who were as politically immature as now, chose Marcos over Cory because they didn’t know any better.

Most people in the rural areas, who comprise the bulk of the voting population, didn’t know Cory.

She was only popular in Metro Manila and other big cities.

The problem with Marcos was that he wanted to show the United States—which was pressuring him to step down—that he was still very popular with the people, and so he cheated at the polls to show a wide margin.

* * *

Speaking of cheating at the polls to gain a convincing lead over an opponent, Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo did it.

GMA did win over Fernando Poe Jr.; perhaps by a small margin, but she won.

FPJ turned off millions of voters because he shunned meeting with local officials in his campaign sorties and was a clumsy speaker on stage.

I’ve talked with FPJ’s close friends and they all said that he lost because he was too shy to face people.

Gloria’s blunder was to talk with Commission on Elections Commissioner Virgilio Garcillano over the phone to inquire about the results of the voting even before the counting took place.

That historic conversation was tapped and recorded.

The rest is history.

* * *

Senatorial candidate Grace Poe-Llamanzares will suffer the same fate as her father, FPJ.

Llamanzares, who was kicked out of the United Nationalist Alliance (UNA), made a big blunder when she admitted she bears a grudge against Cebuano voters who chose Gloria over FPJ in the 2004 presidential election.

Duh!

She should have kept her feelings to herself since she’s supposed to be courting their votes.

Her political gaucherie will make voters in other parts of the Visayas and Mindanao, which areas  are Cebuano-speaking, shun her.

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  • John_Galt_II

    Si Tulfing sinusumpong na naman ng katangahan! Medyo napapadalas yata.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TDCMHBV524F4FINOKTTQQYEKMA owel

      Correction, FPJ won over arroyo though not with a wide margin, but still he won.

  • louie

    i disagree. my gut feel is Poe will win.

  • kentohtan

    dapat siguro bugbugin uli itong si ramona.walang kadala dala…

    • Herman Near

       Pour cold water over burned part.

  • parengtony

    Mr. Tulfo has made multiple incredible statements in this piece. But the most amazing of them all is : ” Most people in the rural areas, who comprise the bulk of the voting population, didn’t know Cory”.

  • SG0609

    whatever happened to garci tapes…

  • maypakialamtayo

    nandito na naman ang mga tagasubaybay ni idol mon na bitter, basa ng basa ayaw naman nila sa kinilang binabasa, asar talo na naman! 

    • patriotic_act

      I agree.. I wonder why these people continue to read mon’s articles if they find it repulsive all the time.. maybe the truth is they admire mon, they just cant admit it and just wanted to “may masabi lang” mentality to “look intelligent”.

      I rarely read mon’s articles.. I enjoy reading the d*mb comments below it more.. as they are the reason why mon continues to be popular.. and ofcourse.. continue to receive paychecks from inquirer.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/N2QA6YVV4JWJWH5OZ75MC5Y3ME BS

        Because these yellowtards were ordered by Carandang paid-PR group to just put comments on every section of the inquirer be it pro-penoy or anti and make sure to insult (and not even criticized ) the reporters/columnists who writes negatively. Try to observe and criticize the abnoy government during weekends or holidays and you will be amazed how few or even zero reply from them. Observe during weekdays especially office hours and they will swarm you with personal insults for every negative comment you write. Remember Drilon pronouncements of campaign strategy ? He announced that they will campaign more thru cyberspace ( twitter,email,social media,sms) . And these bashers are their paid-PR groups. It is a strategy that works to condition the mind of the voters and undecided voters. Expect more propaganda emails and paid surveys in favor of these groups as they were effective during the 2010 presidential election. This is also the campaign strategy of Sen. Serge Osmena. Propaganda surveys plus sms plus emails plus social media.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PM6JHCFR2KT2AURMWRDUXBNLQY Darwin

        Noytards enjoy picking fights because in everything else, their patron saint turned out to be such a dud.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ETIVE4H6I7ZVBAL72HE3VLGCA4 nicosan

    go claudine!!

  • Yobhtron

    CLAUDINE WON OVER MON TULFO!!!  

    • adscity_info

      And that’s the obvious. :-) With a large margin.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/3AXROSN6LN5YP66EONOKGSSYFY Ngiping Dilaw

        That’s obvious , with a large blackeye. joke lang!

  • Noel

    Marcos won over Cory not just by 300,000 votes but about one million.  People’s minds were conditioned into believing that Cory won.  Even before the snap election, the Yellow Brigade supported by US-CIA warned the people that if Marcos won, he cheated and if Cory won, it would be a clean election.  Cory only had the most votes in Metro Manila where she was popular mainly because of Cardinal Sin’s help.  In the provinces, people still voted for Marcos because Cory was unknown.  Days after Marcos was ousted, people in the provinces thought Marcos was still the President.  

    • Dexter Red

      Strongly agree! Until now my Aunt recognize Marcos as her only President. hahaha

    • patriotic_act

      It was actually true.. most of the time kasi yung mga tao dito sa metro manila lang ang nagpi-people power.. akala nila andami nun, usually kung isasama mo yung mga supporters ni Marcos sa lahat ng region at probinsya eh sa kangkungan pupulutin yung mga taong pumunta sa edsa nung People Power 1..

      parang yung Edsa Dos.. puro tagarito lang naman sa metro manila ang nagpunta dun eh, puro mga hakot ng makati business club at mga estudyante at aktibista.. kaya nung Edsa Tres eh naging matalino si Gloria at pinaharang nya yung mga barkong papunta dito dala yung mga supporters ni Erap galing sa visayas at mindanao.. kung nakarating dito lahat yung mga yun baka naging katawa tawa tayo sa buong mundo.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/3AXROSN6LN5YP66EONOKGSSYFY Ngiping Dilaw

        Yan din ang punto ko. Kaya nga bakit daw ibinoto pa ng mga tao ang mga Marcos ayan nasa poder uli sila. Kasi nga yung mga nasa EDSA people power ay hindi kabuuang bilang ng populasyon. Ilang percent lang ng populasyon yung nada EDSA people power. Mas marami ang maka Marcos. Ang lakas ni Marcos sa mga probinsya. Akala nila komo marami ang nasama sa rally nina Cory e wala ng maka Marcos. Bakit daw pumangalawa pa si Erap noongn2010 election? E si de Venecia nga TKO noongmlaban nila ni Erap eh. Nagtaka pa sila.

      • patriotic_act

        yep indeed.. yun din ang sinabi ng mga tao sa mga probinsya.. usually mga nagpi-people power eh mga tao lang dito sa manila.. eh wala pa sa 1/4th ng populasyon yun eh.

        si Erap nakuha pa rin nya yung almost 10M na boto na nakuha nya nung 1998.. nabawasan lang ata ng ilang libo, ibig sabihin ba kung yung mga bumoto kay Erap nung 1998 eh pumunta lahat sa Edsa Tres eh for sure sa kangkungan pinulot si GMA.

        yun ang mali dito.. masyadong nasensationalize yung mga ginagawa ng mga taga metro manila lang kasi sila yung nacocover ng media.. yung mga gustong sumoporta kila Marcos at Erap noon eh walang power na sumporta kasi anglalayo nila.

        Pero bilib talaga ako kay GMA kasi di nya pinayagan yung mga barkong papunta dito nun para sumama sa Edsa Tres.. atleast naging presidente sya ng 9 years

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ELGS2BPKJKG5PDWJAOOCF7K5KI Albert

    No matter who wins the result is the same…..nothing changes. The rich still get richer and the poor already spent their 500 peso election baon.

    • oidkcin

      Very fatalistic view but very real. I often wonder & dream of real people leading a progressive Philippines. With this kakistocratic regime & the ayatollahs & ruhollahs typifying the candidates of both parties led by the abnoydski pwesident, you & I can only shake our heads in disgust.
      Impeach Aquino….& her brother.

  • adscity_info

    Indeed, GMA won over FPJ even she didn’t make a call to Garci.

    • Noel

      I hate GMA.  I wanna be clear about that.  But in fairness to her, she indeed won over FPJ by about 200K.  Since it was a small margin, she wanted the victory to be more credible so she cheated.  Her victory was largely due to INC votes which decided to endorse her after Lacson and FPJ failed to unite against her despite INC’s ultimatum.  Had either Ping or FPJ given in by agreeing to run as Vice and then INC supported one of them, GMA had no chance of winning. 

      • patriotic_act

        I have INC friends and this is actually true.. the INC gave their votes to GMA because FPJ and Ping failed to practice what the INC preach “unity” so GMA indeed won.. but a small margin it is indeed.

  • EstingMagwejueting

    “Grace Poe-Llamanzares up in SWS poll—spokesman”….Mon, your credibility is fast decreasing!!!..Nasobrahan ka yata nina Claudine at Raymart!!!

    • Alex Alvarez

      sus ginoo, saan ba ginanap ang poll? In Cebu?

    • TeabagDeluxe

      SWS? Yan yung survey company na kamag-anak ng mga Cojuangco-Aquino ang may-ari di ba?

  • jahred

    hey inquirer moderator !

    kentohtan
    Yobhtron
    adscity_info

    can u banned this people comment pls …

    They Make me laugh to the max . 0(‘-‘)0

    • patriotic_act

      I believe Mon himself will oppose that if ever.. as it is his only proof he is still “mabenta” and should continue writing articles here.

      • jahred

        i respect anyone here !

        in god’s eye’s im really bangged up in reading those comments

        even the people in our house ask me why im laughing out loud

        and my ‘ pangga ‘ said to me …

              Nabuang Naka ? 0(‘-‘)0

        i said to her ..,

        Nothing ! ” Im Just Reading News “.

        And Now Ngiping Dilaw adds up to the club

        and this one …

        sana maglagay ang philstar ng bagong column…”isumbong mo kay raymart”!

        courtesy of ” k ” 0(‘-‘)0

      • patriotic_act

        I myself enjoy reading the comments more than the article itself.. lalo na yung mga tira ng tira kay mon pero di naman mapigilan ang sarili nilang basahin pa rin yung mga sinusulat ni mon dito

      • jahred

        i think No One Will Follow his footsteps if the respected journalist cant handle that simple comedic opinion

        and they are well known now in this field :

    • adscity_info

      How dare you to include me in your list? So what if I make you laugh? Is that a valid reason to be banned here? Who are you to command here?

  • doublecross

    ‘arroyo over FPJ”……

    arroyo nagnakaw ng boto para kay FPJ, fake president…..magnanakaw!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3AXROSN6LN5YP66EONOKGSSYFY Ngiping Dilaw

    Natalo si Fernando kasi mahina makinarya nya. Mga local officials at Barangay captain ay maka Arroyo. Tapos urong sulong pa si Fernando. Tila kakandidato tila hindi. Matagal bago nagdecide na kumandidato kaya yung iba nangako na ng boto sa kalaban nya. Tapos kumandidato pa si Lacson kaya nahati pa ang boto. Tapos dinala ng INC si Arroyo.

    • joshua kings

      eh ganun pala, bakit nag-hello garci pa yang idol mong bulok? was she not a cheat then?
      let me remind you:’she promised early on on national tv that she will not seek reelection…
      what happened? well she lied…and one who lies is called a liar, right? you can check that in the dictionary.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/3AXROSN6LN5YP66EONOKGSSYFY Ngiping Dilaw

        Nakoooo,nagsalita! Hello Garci. Bakit yung bang NAMFREL na super bias pabor kay Cory, na kahit talo si Cory ay panalo pa rin sa bilang ng NAMFREL! Tigilan ako no? O di ba at lalong yumaman si Joecon! hahahaha! Nakikita mo iba di mo nakita ang manipulation ng NAMFREL! kunwari pa e laging may mga madre na bantay! Saan ka puro kadayaan din naman. Pweeeeeee! kadirrrrriiiiiii!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3NJ4IIZZMB2OMPIOR7X2B72ME k

    sana maglagay ang philstar ng bagong column…”isumbong mo kay raymart”!

    • tita_cacayan

      ” Banatan mo claudine ”  sa editorial naman

  • diamond_digger

    Not only do I disagree with Mon’s ideas in this column but am aghast at his declaration of his belief that Marcos won over Cory Aquino. His opinion with regards to GMA’s win over FPJ may have some points but not in his first. How could the EDSA revolution be as successful in so short a time and without so much bloodshed were it not for the fact that people who truly felt Marcos cheated on Cory and decided to cast away their personal fears and trooped to EDSA to join the revolution. Besides, didn’t the canvassers who walked out and discontinued the tally of the election results exposed the massive cheating perpetuated by the then administration of Marcos? If Tulfo who claims to be a reporter during those dreaded years of Martial law should have known the feelings of the people at that time, unless during those times he was already a “i, me, mine” person  as he is now.

    • TeabagDeluxe

      Marunong ka bang magbasa? Sa tingin mo sa buong Pilipinas ang pumunta sa EDSA revolution? Karamihan ng tao doon, mga taga-Maynila at malalapit na probinsya.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ERCCN5ANNNF7BEBFMYXR6ALGRU Dan

        you must be one hell die hard ilokaok marcos loyalist, i cant blame you, you are what majority ilokaoks are

      • diamond_digger

         It would be an honor to argue and debate with somebody who has brains, unlike you, Teabag, whose brains, obviously, could only fit in a teabag. Thanks , Bobo!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ERCCN5ANNNF7BEBFMYXR6ALGRU Dan

      Tulfo who? puleeeeeeseeee

    • ThudOthwacker

      Read the Mossadegh coup. The parallelism of events leading to the ouster are undeniable. In fact some RAM members admitted that they had been planning the coup a year before 1986 with the US liberals’ blessing. 

      The Namfrel objectives is to sow confusion. By trending vote counting in favor of Cory. Setting the illusion of Cory winning the election. Even declaring the number of people in EDSA in millions is false too.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7W7IOOVSMXPI4IM4SMGC47FS7I larry

    talking about election cheating, why not ask some people in TESDA(formerly NMYC) who are now senior officials, what they did in February 1986 snap election count and who was the VIP with them during that time

  • w4d

    Nice to see how smart the Cebu voters are going to be this coming election. Cong. Anabel Rama, anyone? LOL…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ERCCN5ANNNF7BEBFMYXR6ALGRU Dan

      not in a million chance that this freaking loudmouth rude obnoxious betchy woman named anabel rama will win, the cebuanos are just not like voters in luzon, case in point, lapids, revillas, ejercitos estradas, bongbong, etc etc etc,the list is far too long tomentions all of them

  • $5699914

    “… I can’t agree with Ongpin more…”

    Mr. Tulfo, may mali yata sa grammar mo….

    • TeabagDeluxe

      Walang mali sa grammar ni Tulfo.

      • $5699914

        Sabi mo eh…!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ERCCN5ANNNF7BEBFMYXR6ALGRU Dan

      what are you an english grammar expert,? youre dead wrong, stop blogging youre a pinoy edyot

      • $5699914

        Come on, don’t insult yourself too much.
        Take your meds then enough rest, okay?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RWPOD4ER5LJPDQU3N32NAC74X4 johnnie r

    FPJ lost because LACSON split the opposition votes, garnering 3M votes that should have been meant for FPJ, hence thanks to PING, he lost by 1M votes to GMA. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

      namera lang si ping noong 2004

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

    gringo’s wife has the answer on ’86

  • okabato

    Another blunder by Tulfo to say that Cory was not well known in the barrios, towns and provinces. In fact Cory was propelled to popularity by the murder of her husband Ninoy. FPJ was defeated by GMA by the “votes” of Maguindanao have you forgotten hello Garci.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AF57IVWEAAKPM53UXZH6FZNLWM CarlosC

    So we believe Ongpin now, because Tulfo said so? Ha ha ha!
    Ongpin and the former Marcos cronies and lackeys have no credibility even after thirty years or so… the Marcoses and their ilks are only dreaming that they can come back again. No doubt using their formidable ill-gotten wealth to buy a favorable history. But then, they cannot buy all people, and the truth comes out, no matter how much their money is.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AND7MQ5FERICDOIAUW56RYT45A tower_of_power

    NAMFREL is an agent of cheating … sila ang nagpauso ng trending … first, canvass those places where their candidates are expect to win  … show the trend …. stop the counting!!!! Proclaim their candidates as winners … no need to continue counting kasi nga pangita na sa trend  … hahahahahaha!!!!

  • ThudOthwacker

    If you asked reinvigorated Joe Concepcion. Cory won with a big margin. Bigger than the flour hoarding earnings. Biggest than the product selection offerings of RFM and Concepcion Industries post-Marcos and Cory era.

    The guy is good in numbers. He was after all the chairman of CIA covert funded operation A.K.A. Namfrel. 

    “GMA did win over Fernando Poe Jr.; perhaps by a small margin, but she won.” ~Ramon Tulfo

    You have a better odds winning in a lottery, than predicting the place and the favored result.

      

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MZOKC6X7Q52Z4E5VLYNB7GF72Y Kaloy

    My feeling before reading this article of  Ramon Tulfo was  pity him because of what Claudine and Reymart did to him at the airport some few months ago.

    But after reading his column today, my immediate reaction was: Buti nga sa iyo nagulpi ka nina Claudine, usisero ka kasi.

    • Pitbulldog

      Asus ganyan naman kayong mga naninilaw ang mata.  Komo tama ang tao at ayaw ninyo paniwalaan, galit na kayo.  Mga engots na dilaw talaga, super kitid ang utak.  Nakakahawa ang ka-abnoyan talaga….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

    FPJ lost because Ping Lacson ran, and divided the votes of the opposition. GMA didn’t need to cheat. FPJ lost even in his very own barangay.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CORY ANIM NA TAON BINANTAYAN ANG PRESYO NG GALUNGGONG SA PALENGKE SI MARCOS IS THE BEST PRESIDENT PATI SABAH SINABI NIYA TERETORYO NATIN!

    • eorlando

      Teretoryo natin – means the Philippines and Sabah is HIS.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

    ….and you all can check the Comelec website….the official Comelec count showed Marcos won. The final Namfrel tally also showed Marcos won. But majority believed there was cheating, hence, the People Power.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1817810879 Raul Batallones

    How can you have a real count if one party cheated. It never mattered who won on that election because Marcos and his cronies tainted it. This is why the people’s will won and overthrew Marcos. He lost his credibility after more that 20 years of trying to cling to power. I should know I grew up during the marcos era.

  • Pitbulldog

    Nakukuha lang kasi sa ingay yan tulad ng gawain ng oposisiyon nung panahon ni Macoy, at nito ngang kay GMA.  Of course, Marcos has to go that time.  He should have left his post after 2 terms.  His mistake was trying to perpetuate his hold on power.  Had he just kept the usual turn over of governments thru legitimate elections, he could have ended as one of the best presidents this country ever had.  His first 2 terms in office had been good to the country economically and even militarily.  Nagsuwapang lang kasi ang pamilya kaya ayun. Sana binigyan niya ng tsansa na mapatunayan ni Ninoy na nationalistic talaga siya o another pulitiko din lang..

  • Pitbulldog

    Perhaps that is why the computer specialists walked out.  Di nila ma-take na lumalamang nga si Makoy, he he. pag nanalo legally kasi, useless na plano nila Gringo….

    • Noel

      Simula nang napatay si Ninoy, nag-umpisa na ang plano para mapatalsik si Marcos.  Pilit na sa kanya ibinintang ang pagpatay samantalang ang tunay na utak ay buhay pa ngayon.

  • http://www.facebook.com/edward.curtis.167 Edward Curtis

    Marcos won over Cory? In your wildest dream, Mr. Roberto Ongpin who is a prime suspect in the . dBP behest loan scam ditto with Mike Arroyo. The person who was the project director of the computerized tabulation of ballots held at the PICC was my close relative and he admitted to us that he was instructed to cheat the tabulation the results of which showed Marcos the winner. Marcos won over Cory?

    Arroyo won over FPJ? That is also the line of Garci, a corrupt official under a corrupt Arroyo administration.

    • Adam_d_langgam

      he he he  .. “close relative” … ” friend of a friend”  … sus me  .. sabi nito sabi sabi.

      ongpin put his life on the line to go against marcos.  then the phils was known as a country with 45 million cowards under the thumb of one sob ….

      marcos won over cory?  i don’t know.  but there are still idiots out there doubting gma’s win over fpj  … the visayas gave gloria a big lead.  not a single tricycle driver or a tindera/tindero sa palengke from where i was from admitted voting for fpj  .. then gloria’s name was not so tainted yet.  only a simpleton would choose fpj over gloria.

  • Ari Putan

    Depota !

  • Juan Luna Ibarrizto

    You are way out of your skull. What are you smoking BTW? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5UOZM4PWIDKO7G64HL3PPMXUTM Constantine

    With the latest result of SWS survey showing Poe in a better position, i wonder how Tulfo can justify his comments. Mukhang nakuryente na naman si Tandang Tulfo e. Hala baka suntukin ka na naman dyan ni Raymart puro iyak lang naman ang sagot mo, he he he!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2RVERYUPGBL4EHNMB2QNIQTFS4 Boying

    Granting that it is true the Dictator won over the Saintly Housewife. Question, how many of these votes were the product of coercion and intimidation not to mention the massive vote buying?? Please stop your revisionism and cut the CRAP!!!!

  • JasonBieber

    The ‘Hello Garci’ incident is problem one of the most misunderstood incident in the Philippine history.

    It’s appreciated that this author was fairly honest to write that GMA indeed win and the only mistake was to inquire about the results prior to the counting.

    People believe the ‘Hello Garci’ and the apology that followed was for a crime or cheating. The apology that GMA gave was for the blunder of inquiring of results prior to the counting NOT for cheating. Should GMA have call Garci…probably not…was it cheating or a crime…NO.

    Many people talk about the ‘Hello Garci’ incident and use it to attack GMA without being properly informed on what actual transpired in the incident.

    • Noel

      GMA knew she was winning but she wanted to make sure she won by a huge margin.  She actually won by only about 200K.  But this number would certainly create doubts on people. 

      • JasonBieber

        At the end of the day…there was no cheating, there was no crime but many are misinformed of the actual events of the ‘Hello Garci’ incident. Whether by 200k or by 1…she had more votes therefore she won fair and square.

      • aristeosj

        Duh!!there was no cheating???do you know where you are coming from???it is prohibited to talk to any comelec officer during and 
        around the election.Gloria chose to do that.

        how naive can you be???

      • JasonBieber

        Duh right back at you!!!

        Cheating to win the Presidency is different from speaking to a Comelec official. Get your definitions or facts straight. Gloria never cheated. In fact, she won fair and square.

      • aristeosj

        I’m not sure who has to get his facts straight.asking for ”yung dagdag,yung dagdag”,is not cheating at all???

        get your brains straightened out as well.you are so dense to state that Gloria won ”fair and square”.

      • JasonBieber

        Gloria won fair and square.

        Check your facts. Then get over it.

        There was no cheating. There was no evidence of cheating. So therefore she won fair and square. Deal with it.

      • aristeosj

        hahaha!!!check my facts or you can not just accept the fact that she
        cheated her way into Malacanang and that she was a fake president.
        her so-called ‘reign’ was marred by illegitimacy(that is one of the facts,eat that)

        .besides she admitted it on nationwide television that she chatted with
         ‘Garci’ during that election.she should have resigned for delicadeza’s 
        sake or she would have been impeached.she was just saved by her allies
        by buying them out.

      • JasonBieber

        You have to laugh because you have yet to provide any evidence that she cheated.

        You say she spoke with Garci and your point is???

        You are making accusations but have yet to provide any proof of this cheating you are claiming.

      • aristeosj

        a presidential candidate spoke to a comelec officer(asking for dagdag)during an election period,and you can’t get my point??!!!

        no wonder we are so behind our more developed neighbors.we just don’t get it,do we??

        proofs being non-existent?the courts can better determine this issue.

      • JasonBieber

        Don’t make up lies…that’s not good. No one asked for dagdag! Get your facts straight. It is very reckless on your part to make accusations without proof or any evidence.

      • JasonBieber

        You are making baseless accusations. If you are going to accuse then have proof. Don’t make stuff up. Gloria won and there was no cheating. You are so dense to make accusations without evidence.

  • Barangkuag

    Mind conditioning again Tulfo?

  • jElly_aCe

    nag walk out mga nag cocomputer noong araw kc nakikita nila na tlaga panalo c marcos at nde nila matanggap un kc ng panahon na un punong puno sa drama ang mga tga maynila, nag iiyakan at nag bibigayan ng food. ang mga pinoy mahilig sa drama at himala, konting sindi at suhol lang uusok agad at lalabas ang sangkaterbang luha at ka dramahan.

    • Noel

      Orchestrated and lahat pati na ang sa Computer Center.  Sa pagpayag sa snap election na napilitan siya nang hamunin siya ni Ted Koppel ay alam natin na luto na ang lahat.  Pakana ng Amerika kasabwat ang mga Aquino, Simbahan, mayayaman sa negosyante sa Makati.  Eh si Marcos din ang dapat sisihin.  Matalino nga pero naisahan.  Mayabang kasi.

      • AllaMo

        LOL. Siguro tulad mo, gaggo rin.

      • Noel

        Sinira mo ang Islam sa pagmura.  Gamit mo pa ang pangalang Allah.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5STEU22AD7YRHQSB6RE56ZDSYA J

    Past is past. Let’s see who will cheat this time.

  • 808reader

    Mr. Tulfo, how can you assert that both Marcos and Arroyo won their respective elections but at the same time admit that they cheated? I think what you’re trying to say is that both Marcos and Arroyo would have won anyway even if they did not cheat. That is very difficult to prove since the election ballots were tampered with. What is easier to prove, if it hasn’t already, is that both Marcos and Arroyo won their elections because they cheated.  

    • Noel

      Please read what he wrote twice.  Both won but still cheated to increase the margins so that it would look more credible.  

      • AllaMo

        And, the cheating made the cheated elections more credible? ROTF LMFAO! You realize, you just shot down your whole foolish lemma.

      • Noel

        No.  I still maintain my position that both won but cheated to get more votes.  Call it greed if you want.

  • eorlando

    If Marcos won fair and square then why was he ousted? I guess winning by vote buying, by intimidation, and by the controlled commission on election plus the military is still WINNING. People forgot that they printed several paper money with the same serial number. What do you think that was for and who do you think did it? and this is just the obvious. Revising history is probably very lucrative these days – In preparation of Bongx2 – 2016 ? Never again! A few silver coins is just not worth another 20 years of oppression.

    • Noel

      People’s minds were already conditioned before the election.  Through the help of western media (CIA backed) and local media operators including Namfrel headed by yellowish Joe Concepcion, people were warned that if Marcos won he cheated and if Cory won it was clean.

      • Irene Wong

         Noel, I agree with you… AMEN..

      • AllaMo

        Fools in agreement. Like the mountain birthing a mole. LOL!

      • eorlando

        Give me a break! People were conditioned about cheating by Marcos and the KBL. they cheated for all those years–  even kids knew that Marcos was a cheat from way back. They faked an attack, jailed people, and killed their opponents. Cheating on election was not that difficult for these people. The Filipinos did not need Namfrel nor the CIA to know who were the cheaters and the corrupt. Only the deaf, blind and dumboes that did not know Marcos was a cheat.

      • Noel

        I’m gonna give you a break so you could gather your nerves in the brain.  First of all, how old were you during Martial Law and even before that?  Even the kids knew Marcos was a cheat?  The kids at that time or the kids today?  What they hear are all being told to them many of which were lies and baseless.  Marcos won convincingly against Macapagal and even Osmena.  He could have cheated on the later part of his years but it could have been done by Imelda and her cohorts so that Marcos stayed in power.  If Marcos stayed, so was Imelda and her corrupt family.

      • eorlando

        Sir I was one of those kids at that time. Mayors got sacks full of money to buy votes – KBLs especially, my neighbors were really “happy”- News paper showed picture of 100 peso bills with the same serial number. Goons running around. They even given out t-shirts with “presidential guard” print etc.. etc. I know you are one of those Marcos kababayan loyalist but you do not have to deny their evil machinations.  Maybe in Ilocos Norte Marcos did not have to cheat but elsewhere is another story. You can blame Imelda but it was Marcos who proclaimed Martial Law to keep himself in power. Popular presidents do not have to hide behind martial law to remain in power.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/3AXROSN6LN5YP66EONOKGSSYFY Ngiping Dilaw

        Marami sa biktima ng martial rule ay mga pro communist China! Pati na yung mga oposisyon. Pero yung karaniwang mamamayan di ginalaw nina’ Marcos. Ilang libo ang tao sa bayan namin pero walang biktima ng Martial law. Mga estudyanteng maka Mao Tse Tung ang mga nakulong. May curfew noon nahuli kami ang parusa , nagbunot kami ng damo sa munisipyo. Walang pananakit o multa.

  • repapips

    ulul ka talaga tulfo.

  • speaksoftlylove

    This time, I will agree with you in all three issues that you raised. Actually, I really didn’t care when FPJ lost the election. Though it’s rude to malign the memory of the dead, I am not maligning him but just stating a fact. I am a race aficionado, so too was FPJ. He had two winning horses in his stable namely Lord Joseph (named after Erap) and My Lady Grace (of course named after Llamanzares). His permanent jockey was the Eduardo Domingo, Jr. When his horse lost as an outstanding favorite, a rather inebriated FPJ rush to the weighing stand and confronted Jockey Domingo, drew his gun and threatened to shoot him. If it did not happen in front of the racing public, Jockey Domingo would have been a dead meat. Turned out that his horse suffered a minor heart attack and vomitted blood so Jockey Domingo was forced to stop the horse from running to save it’s life. Di man lang binigyan ni FPJ ng panahon na magpaliwanag yong jockey samantalang milyon milyong pera na ang naiakyat ng jockey sa kanya. I was a fan of FPJ not because of his machine like fists in the movies but because I thought then he was a symbol of humility. Parang sine, laging kawawa pero kabaliktaran pala lahat. Kung totoong biological daughter si Grace, nakakatakot kung minana niya yong lihim na totoong ugali ni FPJ.

    • Noel

      Tutoong kapag lasing si FPJ ay nagbabaril siya.  Iyan din ang ginawa niya minsan sa Makati sa loob ng isang bar.  Nagpaputok siya sa loob na parang sa sine.

  • Zim

    Maraming bobo dito na hindi naka-intindi ng binasa nila. Opinyon nya yun, anong pakialam nyo? Wag nyong basahin.

    • AllaMo

      LMFAO. Ikaw nga diyan kaya, yung bobo mo isiniwalat mo pa dito.

      • Zim

        at ikaw ang pinaka-una sa bobong tinutukoy ko… magbigay ka rin ng opinion mo, wala akong pakialam.. apektado ka? hahaha!

  • disqusted0fu

    Was there any cheating when GMA won against FPJ? I don’t think so. All it was was a phone call to Garcilliano inquiring about the poll results, nothing more. It was just a hyped up incident by the media and by political opponents of GMA back then to make it appear to the Filipinos that GMA actually cheated, when in reality it was just an inquiry.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SAGKZON3CUMS2QVBSXOIK3KM64 J Mapagmahal

      talaga lang ha, inquiry na to make sure lamang sya ng at least 1 million? you’re right, it was just inquiry, nothing more. ang aang aang, ang aang aang, ang aang aang! lol

  • bisdakis

    Cebuanos do not need to cheat to bury Fernando Poe in the elections. We bisdaks are intelligent voters and can differentiate between movie and reality! Grace Poe will be buried deeper than his father by the Cebuano electorate this coming election. Better for her to campaign in Luzon where majority of voters are showbiz fanatics and political bobos! Not even Erap, Jaworski, Sotto, Revilla, Nolie de Castro, Lapid. and other showbiz people have survived in Cebu.

  • Crystalbabao

    Kaya ka nagugulpi. Mahilig ka gumawa ng kwentong barbero para paboran ang mga nagbabayad sa iyo. Grace Poe never castigated the Cebuano voters. Very clearly, she said thatthe blame was on the few officials who cheated on her father. Watch her speech again.

  • JK1000

    Mon, what do you expect from Ongpin’s mouth ? Ofcourse he’ll say that his boss won that election. To make it worse, YOU also fooled by Ongpin in believing that Marcos won . Eversince you hated the AQUINO’S ,is it because they’re not easy to bribe by journalist like you who most people in the media takes bribes too and always waits outside the politicians offices just to receive gifts and money. How come you never show your LOUD MOUTH in exposing corrupt politicians during the brutal Marcos years ? Are also afraid of them ? You,HYPOCRITE !

    • ngidigop

      Pre pasensya na dyan kumikita si tulfo. Habang binabasa natin ang kanyang column, gusto sya ng pamunuan ng PDI.

  • JK1000

    Mon, one more thing . Remember your Idol Juan Ponce Enrile, Admitting during the press conference inside Camp Aguinaldo ( 1986) after he seek refuged inside the camp by saying Marcos cheated on the election . Are you that dumb and stupid to believe Ongpin’s story.

  • crisostomo_ibarra_the3rd

    Hindi ka na ba nagtanda Tulfo? Mahilig ka sa tsismis kaka video ng mga taong wala ka namang pakialam kaya ka nabugbog. Ngayon, kahilig mong gumawa ng istoryang hindi naman nangyari sa Cebu. Magbago ka na!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TNASVGXZ23VCJWV7KO7WPDIKKI George

    tatang mon, concentrate na lang sa story about the days of your father the colonel, the invincible phil. constabulary and nobody cares.  other than that, your “those were the days stories” are full of b.s.

    • gisingpinoy12

      Natumbok mo boss george..LOL

  • pabloo6293

    this is a lot of bull….

  • AllaMo

    ROTF LMFAO! Talk about a snake speaking with a forked-tongue. tulfo, you are plain ridiculous.

    • Zim

      Apektado? Sulat ka rin ng opinion mo!

  • edwinablola69

    Tatang Mon, does Grace Poe an American citizen? Did they all live in the U.S.A?

    • Noel

      Grace Poe lived and studied in the US for many years and she’s an American citizen.  She admitted this in nationwide TV (you might be inside the toilet when she said this on TV).  But she claimed to be a dual citizen and that she renounced her US citizenship at the US Embassy when she decided to run as Senator.  True or not, we don’t know if she did it.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/6EADOP2OSGDCE6G6CE6IQLU7XM Julius

      well, there’s this philippine law that says you can “reclaim” your natural born philippine citizenship.  tama si noel, di natin alam if grace followed the process for reclaiming.  i have negative views about this law but its there.  made by those americans, canadians, australians and other green card holders in congress.

    • edwinablola69

      well will see what happen…

  • archerfan

    Marcos won that snap election and the US knows that.  Ang naging mali lang talaga ni marcos eh naging nationalistic na sya, yung love your own country na sya, eh ayaw ni unlce sam ng ganun.  thats when they cooked up EDSA revolt kuno, featuring yung mayayaman na pamilya na lalong nagpayaman nung sila na nakapwesto.  the rest is dark history for the pinas.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

      WHAT? Anong “love your country na sya” ang pinagsasabi. Sige nga! Paki eksplika mo?

  • novaliches

    The truth is nangyari ang Edsa1- 1986 dahil kay Enrile, palitan niyo na ang history hanggan gusto niyo, pero yung mga nabubuhay noon alam ito. kung  gusto ng tao ang Edsa, bakit walang Edsa nang napatay si Ninoy (1983).
    Kahit gusto ng mga aquinos na mag-alsa ang tao, kaya nga hindi nila nilinis si Ninoy, at puno siya ng dugo habang nakaratay, hindi pa rin nag-alsa ang tao. 

    • koolkid_inthehouse

      That’s the beginning, everybody knows Filipinos and other countries don’t believed that Ninoy Aquino was killed by Galman alone.  Was it really Galman? 
      Enrile is a snake, he knows where to slither when in danger.  Until now, he will used his inside information to switch color.  Ask the expert, colorful snake carries a deadly venom.

      • novaliches

         You can call enrile whatever names you want, he deserve it anyway.  however, the truth is the people went to edsa to protect enrile and ramos, and not cory, since cory was in hiding somewhere in cebu. most of those politician  that were present at last week edsa celebration, they were not there. it was only when the tide had change that these guys started to come. 
        If marcos is a tyrant and addicted to his position. there should have been a bloodbath,  but he refused to fight and elected to leave than to have people killed.  just like what is happening in syria now, or previously in libya and egypt.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/6EADOP2OSGDCE6G6CE6IQLU7XM Julius

      there were hundres of thousands of us at Ninoy’s burial.  absent ka noon so you won’t know.

      • novaliches

         siguro nandoon ka rin sa edsa para protektahan si enrile at ramos. hindi pwedeng si cory kasi wala siya doon.

  • Komen To

    If I use guns goons and gold to force people to vote for me (even snatch ballot boxes to switch votes) and at the final tally my name ends up with the highest count, I won the election, right? Isn’t the final tally the basis of proclamation?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/6EADOP2OSGDCE6G6CE6IQLU7XM Julius

      korek.  anong sabi ng mga politikos and rebels alike? ah yes.  “the people adore us”.  it is very easy to be adored by the people when you show up with a big smile and an armalite.

  • tanga_hanga_ni_abnoy

    nanalo si marcos at masakit man aminin, isa sya sa pinakamagaling n naging presidente ng pinas..tingnan nyo n lang mga gawa nya hanggang ngayon pinakikinabangan pa..sige, pahabaan nga tayo ng listahan? sinong galit s martial law? e d syempre yung ngawa lang ng ngawa..mga siga n hindi makapag-siga dahil dadamputin..ng mawala si makoy sila naman tong namamayagpag

    • koolkid_inthehouse

      noong Martial Law sinong namamayagpag, mga crony at mga kaanak ni Marcos.  Mga pulis at militar mahilig mangutong. Doon nagsimula ang mother of all corruptions. 

      • tanga_hanga_ni_abnoy

        ngayon sino naman, sila pa rin d b? nadagdagan pa nga nung mga dating galit kay makoy..sometimes, truth and facts really hurts

      • rea1031

        Agree…before martial law the military and police were all respectable gentlemen….Marcos taught them to overuse their authority…..

    • joeybg

      BAGAY SA PANGALAN MO…. TANGA-HANGA NI ABNOY AT MAKOY

      • tanga_hanga_ni_abnoy

        thank you

  • nes911

    Marcos and arroyo may had won their respective elections but it was solely through cheating. And this has been the perception of the filipinos per se.

  • eirons1043

    Sir Mon naman paano mananalo si Marcos eh mismong si enrile inamin na nandaya siya sa Cagayan ng more than 300 thousand votes.  Di lalo na ang dayaan from Pangasinan to Ilocos Norte.  Isama mo pa ang Mindanao na hawak ng crony ni Macoy na si Florendo.  Iyon namang ke corrupt Gloria eh style Marcos din ang pandaraya. From Pampanga, Pangasinan na zero si FPJ daw up to Ilocos.  Tapos dinaya pa ni Gwen sa Cebu at fnally sa Mindanao si Hello Garci. No way na nanalo yong dalawang kambal corrupt na yon.

  • WeAry_Bat

    Ganito lang ka simple, ha, lolo mon, pwede kang magsalita ng ganyan.  Noon, hindi. 

    Hindi mo rin alam kung bubuksan, titingnan at malaman ang binoto mo.  Hindi mo alam kung kapitbahay mo ay informer pala.

    Akala mo maraming nagawa, yun pala, kalahati lang yun sa mga inutang.  Kalahati, binulsa.

    Mag-isip uli kayo mga Marcos loyalists, mey mga million million dollars nasa Switzerland ngayon.  Kahit ilang dekada ang Pilipinas nasa martial law, hindi aabot ganun kalaki ang yaman na maibigay ng bansa sa pamilya ng Marcos.  At kaya gumawa ng kwentong Yamashita gold.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000286445677 Pomeloginscompany Redhorse

    Dapat ito inaalis na sa inquirer…..dont say na column ito eh sanga-sanga topic nito.

  • Ivanhoe_torres

    the author is not the only living person during the Cory and Marcos election , everybody knew about Cory and it is her popularity that topple Marcos . EDSA is not alone in the revolution , there were several areas in the countries that did the same , like the Jones avenue in Cebu wherein people filled the whole street to protect a Police Camp that was runored to be attacked by the Marcos forces , we were there , FYI .  We live in an area away from Manila and its a lie to tell that only Manila knew about Cory .

  • Daniel Marahomsar

    kaw naman mon..di naman totoo yan na si marcos ang nanalo…alam natin na di totoong di kilala si cory nang mga tao…sa aming lugar na malayo sa siyudad …isa lang ang bumoto ke marcos kasi doon ako nang nagbilangan..maraming nagsasabi noon na kahit aso bobotohan nila mawala lang si marcos…

  • $44545315

    Si Marcos ang champion ng Pilipinas.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/6EADOP2OSGDCE6G6CE6IQLU7XM Julius

      champion sa – ano?  let’s be fair to Marcos.  he was really charismatic and intelligent.  he remembered his friends.  he was a big hope for the country.  but he was also corrupt and scheming.  and he never hesitated to turn to the dark side when it suited his interests.  and he was a big problem to the country in his last years.  we should know.  he was our president.  he was our dictator.  he was our brod.  and even now in our schizophrenic moments, we still alternatively praise his talents and at the same time condemn his immorality.  let’s not make a false god out of a human.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WC2VPZRJETRO5KOU4VOZCJXEDY Tamarindwalk

         If Marcos had just seen that the people had a little more and spread some of the wealth he and his goons stole, he would have been able to stay on.  As it was, he, Ma’am, Ver, Enrile, and that whole gang grabbed all they could and laughed at the people while they ran to the bank.
        Then to add insult to injury, the Cojuangco clan grabbed power and ripped off the people again.
        Sad. Sad. Sad.

  • Maitum

    I am already a voter during those times. We made a “coryvan” in our whole province. We are from  the Visayas.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WC2VPZRJETRO5KOU4VOZCJXEDY Tamarindwalk

       You made a mistake!

  • mulanay

    I’m a Cebuano and we’re gonna prove Mon Tulfo that he’s wrong about Grace Poe. Iboboto Poe namin sya. Mon, tumatanda na po kayo at wish ko lang na ituwid ninyo ang inyong analysis, at kung hindi baka kayo po’y ma-dialysis. Malinaw naman na dinaya ni Marcos si Cory and at dinaya ni Gloria si FPJ. Pakikorek ‘yan bago po kayo patulan ulit ng kapwa-artista ni FPJ na tulad nina Raymart at Claudine. Friendly advice lang po.

  • gisingpinoy12

    Eto ka na naman Mr.Tufling….demolition na naman ito kay Grace…magkano kaya? 
    Karma karma lang yan Mr. Tufling…lapit kana!

  • novaliches

    Noong panahon ng martial law, medyo may disiplina pa ang mga pinoy. takot ang tao gumawa ng  kalokohan, ang sweldo ay kayang  bumuhay ng pamilya.  ngayon ewan, ang daming OFW DH, noong araw mga skilled at professional lang ang nag-aabroad. pero ngayon DH, kaya nga ang tawag ng Dh sa ibang bansa ay pinay. asenso ban ang tawag diyan.  oo mataas ang stock market, pero sino ang nakikinabang, ang ordinaryong pinoy ba, hindi.  

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/6EADOP2OSGDCE6G6CE6IQLU7XM Julius

      para lang malaman mo ang katotohanan.  panahon pa ni marcos e marami nang OFW.  saksakan ng hirap ang buhay noon, na wala man lang sa 5% ng college graduates ay nakakahanap ng trabaho.  isang classmate naming babae na me honors, ay napilitang mag jeepney driver.  at anong katahimikan ang sinasabi mo?  bank robberies and kidnappings committed by the PC and Army.  mass rapes.  rebellions and ambuscades.  political assassinations.  massacres.  bombings.  rampant graft and corruption.  wholesale slaughter of military troops.  loss of weaponry by the hundreds at a time (i remember the maritime school raid in the visayas where 500 garands were taken).  regular dumping of salvage and holdap victims at lagro and novaliches.  yan ba ang mga pinagmamalaki mo?

      • novaliches

         alam na alam mo pala ang katotohanan, at marami kang alam na krimen na nagawa si marcos, bakit hindi mo siya kasuhan.  at kung talagang saksakan ng sama ang mga marcoses, bakit na elect si bongbong na senador, e national election yun, a alam ko na, nandaya siya, di ba. 
        ang mga pinahirapan noong martial law ay mga maka-kaliwa na gustong pabagsakin si marcos. ano ang gusto mong gawin kung may kaaway ang gobyerno. sino nga ba ang mga comrades ng mga cpp-npa sina marcos ba o ang mga aquino?.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/6EADOP2OSGDCE6G6CE6IQLU7XM Julius

        kasuhan si marcos during martial? hahahhahahahahahah!!!! no other reply necessary! hahahahhahahahahahahahah!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6EADOP2OSGDCE6G6CE6IQLU7XM Julius

    i still vividly remember in 1986 seeing armed and uniformed men stuffing ballot boxes with Marcos-Tolentino votes and taking away the real ballot boxes in Southern Metro Manila.  i still remember the KBL vice-mayor (eastern metro manila municipality) with his goons beating up a 17-year old NAMFREL volunteer while his dad helplessly watched, and another volunteer handed me a camera so that i could take pictures of the event for proof of election violence.  i remember a spaced-out Nora Aunor attempting to vote as a flying voter in Greenhills after having voted in Corinthian Gardens.  i remember guarding ballot boxes with a gentleman from the south while at night armed men harassed us.

    all those lies that say Marcos won will never erase those memories.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WC2VPZRJETRO5KOU4VOZCJXEDY Tamarindwalk

       I lived down the road from the then mayor of Caloocan.  No one would dare utter anything anti-KBL or anti-Marcos in our neighborhood or the goons would come after you.  During the election, lots of people stayed home because they were scared.
      But sadly, we got rid of one dictatorship only to bring the Cojuangco gang into power, with Peiping and Tinting leading the pack of corrupts!  Nothing got done during Cory’s days in power except a total failure to fix anything in the country and a lot of power failures.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/6EADOP2OSGDCE6G6CE6IQLU7XM Julius

        i have no love lost for the cojuangcos either.  that’s a different issue for a different time.  but let’s be fair to Cory.  she didn’t have a lot to work with nor much time to do the necessary things.  she may not have been bright, but she definitely was a far cry from the supposedly “intelligent”, “heroic” and “effective” Marcos.

      • $20733759

        How can she push progress for the nation with a dozen coups taking place. Nontheless, the situation was much better than before.

      • novaliches

         pakawalan ba naman ni cory yung mga cpp-npa comarades nila, siempre mabubuwisit ang military. better situation  pala yung araw araw ang brown out, ayaw gamitin yung nuclear plant, kay marcos kasi.  kung galit kay marcos, bakit ang tao ang parusahan.

      • MannyKingfisher

        But at least she got the “balls” to kick out the dictator for 20 years and his “robbing” (loving) cohorts.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6EADOP2OSGDCE6G6CE6IQLU7XM Julius

    i also seem to recall you, Mr Tulfo, claiming Marcos won right after the elections – fair and square.  and a couple of weeks later when RAM holed up in Camp Crame, and hundreds of thousands – maybe millions of filipinos came out to support them, only then did you side with those who denounced the cheating.  starfruit, anyone? 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WC2VPZRJETRO5KOU4VOZCJXEDY Tamarindwalk

       I remember the election and sad to say, I tend to think that Marcos actually won – by cheating, of course.  But he won.
      It was the manipulations of the Cojuanco family and the Americans that put Cory into power.  And what a grand mistake that was!  She was as bad as Marcos.  All she did was hide under her bed and pray!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/6EADOP2OSGDCE6G6CE6IQLU7XM Julius

        to say that the americans put cory in power is contradictory.  at the height of people power in February 1986, i also clearly remembered Ronald Reagan fumbling with the statement “both sides cheated” and later on suggested instead power sharing between Marcos and Cory.  it was only after the victory of people power was clear that Marcos was told to “cut and cut cleanly”.  now i’m not going to argue with you whether these were facts.  but i’m going to tell you that any kind of justification for cheating or minimizing the marcos tyranny by belittling the succeeding presidencies is, to put it mildly, neither here nor there.  nevertheless, peace to you.

      • $20733759

        And also that childish allegation that she (Cory) hid under the bed, because, as anyone can distinctly recall, there was no space under her bed with a front page photo in the dailies to prove the late Beltran’s baseless report(?).

      • pabloo6293

        You are as st^p^d as this columnist.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GVQGTF7TQKC3FUCNPV36OMHOHQ Geoffrey Teague

    my jaw is not dropping because of what marcos did, it is dropping because a certain reporter is stating that marcos won. amazing!!! that is the kind of mentality that still admires the rich corruptos. time for education of the ethical kind. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WNJTQYHM4B5XMJAU6PCPFHYSSQ Francisco

    Si Tulfo, you mean you listen to this guy make political analysis? You must be crazy! I read his column for fun, I mean, I never took him seriously. It’s like listening to Erap’s kuwentong kutsero!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/PTVKN7TQYOCF5BIZZPBFRZX2YQ Andres

      mukhang nabayaran na rin yan si tulfo…bilib na sana ako sa magkakapatid hehe..nasira ganyan talaga ang buhay ..pera pera lng yan…babae lng katapat nyan …si barreto…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3AXROSN6LN5YP66EONOKGSSYFY Ngiping Dilaw

    Nakita daw kungmpaano kinuha ang ballot boxes kung paano tinakot ng KBL ang mga botante, nandaya daw si Marcos. Yung mga eksena na nananakot mga tao ni Marcos ay Zarzuela. May camera dyan gumawa tayo ng eksena na nandadaya ang KBL. Namfrel ay bias maka Cory yan. Kunyari kami kami bibilang kasama ng mga madre para walang dayaan. Hahahaha si Joecon ng Namfrel ay CORY BABY! GETS NYO? Kailangan lang ay camera ilang actors at presto maipikikita mo kung gaano kasama ang kalaban. Bakitnoong bumalik ang mga Marcos sa Pilipinas at kumandidato e di nakatikim ng pagkatalo? Sa dami ng araw araw na balita noon kung gaano kasama mga Marcos pero pagnkumandidato puro panalo. Hahahaha ibig sabihin kahit anong paninira may maka Marcos pa rin. Si Presidente Noynoy nga buong Pilipinas na mga taga media o tv radio newspaer puro maganda sinasabi sa kanya tapos kamamatay lang ni Cory kaya naiboto ng mga tao. Sa propaganda lang kaya nanalo. hahaha!

    • novaliches

       Hindi mananalo si Pnoy kung hindi namatay si cory. ganun si Bongbong malabo siyang maging presidente hanggat nandiyan si Imelda.

      • hatecorrupt

        bull’s eye….i agree….

      • Alex Alvarez

        LOL… para mo naman sinabi nang mananalo lang si Sen BongBong pag namatay si imelda? Di naman nananalo dahil sa kasikatan sa pagkamatay eh!!! 

      • novaliches

         alam natin lahat na isang dahilan kaya bumagsak si marcos ay dahil kay imelda. nasira din ang national ambition ni Imee  dahil sa kanya (remember the gma impeachment vote, biglang nag-abroad  si Imee sa advise ni Imelda). kaya ang tao madyo suspicious na makikialam uli si mam kung si bongbong naman ang uupo.

    • Komen To

      E bakit hinayaan nyong dukutin si Makoy ng Kano at dalhin sa Hawaii, imbes na Paoay, mga inutil kayo. Naiwan ako sa Malakanyang kasama mga KBL, buti na lang nakatakas ako, mga duwag

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3AXROSN6LN5YP66EONOKGSSYFY Ngiping Dilaw

    Sabi dinaya ni Marcos si Cory, di mananalo si Marcos dahil galit ang mga tao sa kaniya. Noong nasa Hawaii sina Marcos, sa Pilipinas wala kang mababasa sa diario kundi puro kasamaan ng mga Marcos. Bakit noong bumalik galing Hawaii at kumandidatong senador si Bongbong at Imee ay nanalo pa?

    • mariobig

      natalo nung unang kumandidatong senador  bong bong nakatikim din siya ng pagkatlo bilang senador  nanalo lang siya nung  presidential  election ng  2010

      • Alex Alvarez

        iyon ang talagang dinaya….LOL…………

  • xuanxuen

    dahil ang pinoy ayaw maulit ang sinasabi sa bible na ang propeta at tinatatwa sa sariling bayan … kaya minamahal nila ang kanilang mga ala propetang politiko

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CORY ANIM NA TAON BINANTAYAN ANG PRESYO NG GALUNGGONG SA PALENGKE YUN ANG NAGAWA NIYA! MARCOS IS THE BEST PRESIDENT AT SINABI NIYA SABAH AY SA ATIN

    • basilionisisa

       in your dream!

    • Komen To

      Nag enjoy ka sa 20 taong galunggong ke Makoy

      • Alex Alvarez

        aba, di lang galunggong ang naenjoy ng mga PINOY, pagdating ni CORY, wala na silang maenjoy kung di magmura sa kapwa lalo na sa mga nakaupo sa gobyerno……………LOL……….democracy daw, democracy sucks!!!!

    • MannyKingfisher

      si cory ay sa galonggong. ikaw ay gonggong.

      • Alex Alvarez

        eh napababa ba ni cory ang presyo tulad ng promise niya sa mga tao?

  • Legally Black

    Ano nanamang katangahan eto?

  • basilionisisa

    Off Target na naman! Gag… talaga itong si Tulfo! nagbukas na naman ng kontrobersya!

    KILALA ko mismo ang ilang teacher-election-officials na nagsabing ‘kinuha’ sa kanila ang mga ballot boxes at binuhusan ng black ink ng mga Marcos goons…

    at kakilala ko ang ilang keypunchers na nagta-tally ng election results sa NCC sa Camp Aguinaldo na NAGWALK-OUT dahil ‘IBA’ yung nakikita nilang totals na lumalabas sa Tally screen sa TUNAY na totals na ipina-punch nila sa computer room (kilala ko sila dahil nag-aral ako sa NCC, overseas ako noon)…

    tapos sasabihin nitong ‘reporter’ (daw) Tulfo na ‘Marcos won over Cory’! F… DELIRIOUS talaga!

    • Alex Alvarez

      LOL…………..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    MALAKI ANG NAGAWA NI CORY SA LOOB NG ANIM NA TAON ANG BANTAYN ANG PRESYO NG GALUNGGONG SA PALENGKE MARCOS IS THE BEST PRESIDENT HE CLAIM ALSO SABAH!

    • basilionisisa

       i repeat: in your f… dream!

      • Alex Alvarez

        25 pesos isang kilo ng GG, weh… ni ultimong GG na promise ibababa ang presyo, di nangyari LOL………..

  • Komen To

    Time to write our own version of history, uso ngayon yan, legal na pagkakaperahan yan kesa sa atak en kolek

  • mariobig

    kwentong kutsero na naman si tolfing   bat ganun  ang mga kwento ni tolfing wala na salinya  baka kaya epekto ng bugbog ni raymart….  galing gumawa ng tsimis ni tolfing  dapat alisin  na siya ng inquirer

  • http://yahoo.com koy-bili

    this was history of a world that is upside down :)

  • kabayandinako

    Kaya ka napepegul dahil marami kang katsang at pinakikialaman na di dapat at out of this world na mga haka-haka. Umayos ka ng konti Tulfo para naman paniwalaan ka.

  • JasonBieber

    People who know the truth knows GMA won the 2004 elections fair and square. It is true that she should not have spoken to Garci but that does not warrant cheating accusations since there was no talk at all of cheating even on the recorded conversation.

    With that said, i can see why GMA was so unpopular. It is because she worked all the time for the Philippines and never stopped to have fun with the media or crack jokes for the public…which is also why i can see why PNoy is so popular. It is because he doesn’t really work that hard and thus has a lot of time to entertain the media and crack jokes for the public. 

    • Adam_d_langgam

      pero as stand up comic, walang binatbat bro.  napipilitan lang tumawa ang crowd dahil baka maglupasay   …

      alam mo naman, ang special child me change ng moods

      • JasonBieber

        Part of his comic act is to insult and attack the disabled. It’s pointless really.

        He tells jokes, plays video games, and shoots his guns even though there is a gun ban. That’s the Philippine President for you.

      • aristeosj

        hehehe!!!the adam and the ant—they go together.not to make music though,
        not even to leave a dent…just to make incomprehensible whispers and 
        nonsense,bwahahaha!!!

      • Adam_d_langgam

        nonsense of course sa mga nauuto ni budoy.  adam and the ant make music together?  nah  … we love inflicting pain and ridicule to those that don’t use their brains.

        it is a challenge though   .. mentally challenged “supoters” of retard don’t have the capacity to understand

      • Alex Alvarez

        they we’re probably under a magic spell?

      • aristeosj

        Inflict pain?hehehe!!!i am pretty sure who is still suffering from severe agony 3 years into the reign of P-Noy.Adam and his ‘langgam’ are still looking ridiculously ridiculous up to the present time.hehehe!!!Adam and his ‘langgam’ won’t ever get to understand.

        Brains?it is really a challenge for Adam and his ‘langgam’
        to get to know the fact that they don’t even have brains.bwahahaha!!!

      • Adam_d_langgam

        ows … so true.  inflicting pain to people who’re way beyond salvation is way too much to expect.  ridiculous?  he h ehe he  ….. it is ridiculous indeed to hang your hopes on the head of a retard  ..

        the langgam’s tribe is pretty much aware that “things” who think of themselves as bigger than the langgam eventually fall prey.  

        now how about budoy’s army?   it is a hopeless lot…. of course they’ll clap every time budoy opens his mouth ….. 

      • aristeosj

        oh well,i do not know who is beyond salvation here—the hopeful or the hopeless?the heartened or the hurting?hehehe!!!

        i do not place my hope on the leaders.i put my hope on the people that they’ll see light.I do not need PNoy’s help.i am contented with what i have right now.if my situation pushes mo to more heights,that will be a bonus.and oh,i do not mean ‘langgam’ as in the real ant.i have so  much respect for the ants.your own ‘langgam’ are the sort of pests crawling inside your odious’ brain’ making up your pathetic state.get those out of your system before your clotting system fails and you bleed to death.

        oh whatever,with the state that you are in now, you are good as ‘dead’.

      • Adam_d_langgam

        woooooo .. he he he .

        push you to more heights? if you consider stupidity as climbing the ranks of the learned, then you’re obviously on your way. 

        you don’t put your trust on the leaders?  how can you be so dense bradir?   no wonder why the phils is stuck on the beaten track because the “smart and intelligent ones are marching to the beat of their own drum.

        is there a country in the world with idiot leaders and still keep on chugging along?  if you’re satisfied with what you have, there are millions out there that need salvation.  have fun living in your own little world.  the tenants of the mental institutions also live on their own little world.
         

      • aristeosj

        a world of my own?hehehe…

        i believe you are the one existing in your own world bradir…
        a world characterized by pain—specifically inflicting pain 
        to others and to himself.i have a strong suspicion that you
        were never a factor in the salvation of this country because
        you can not save a nation by merely inflicting pain,especially
        from a lucid guy like you.

        at least psychiatric patients are hardly lucid,hehehe!!!

      • Alex Alvarez

        LOL………..

  • sakinlang

    Marcos won over Cory; Arroyo over FPJ! Yes, I believe that! And the earth is flat too!

    • patukar

      Tungkol sa ang earth is FLAT, Kilala ko ang original na nagsabi nyan, pag komuntra excommunicado! 

  • at-large

     Mon maghiwalay nalang tayo ng landas kung sa akala mo panalo si MAKOY laban kay CORY…wala kana yata sa pag iisip hehehehe

  • desi derata

    Are you nuts?

    May dementia na yata itong si Mang Ramon. At this point in time, there are people like Tulfo who try to revise history.

  • $44545315

    Si Marcos ang tunay na nanalo sa eleksyon ng 1986. Alam natin itong lahat.

    Marcos pa rin.

  • ed_dAVAO

    Hmmmm. Possibly

  • doncleo

    this is stupid!  Del Mundo said he agree’s with Ongpin that Marcos won over Cory but Marcos cheated to show to the US that he is still popular so he cheated to widen the margin….now, how did these experts estimate that Marcos really  won by  300,000 votes?.. were they present during the manipulation of votes?or were they relying on the manipulated Comelec canvass? even in sports or whatever field, a cheater is declared a loser or disqualified..what’s the point of affirming that Marcos had won but then he cheated?.this is an election and the voters right of suffrage is considered sacred..even if Marcos won by a billion votes if he CHEATED he deserves to lose and this was shown by the people power.

  • Bisdak_kaayo

    The SWS is the same survey that said GMA won.  Itong mga followers ng politico, selective use lang ang paggamit sa survey. kapag kalaban nila ang nanalo sinabing dinadaya, pero panay quote naman sa mga survey kapag sila nangunguna.

  • Anton Bautista

    Yeah,  regarding Grace Poe-Llamanzares comments about holding a grudge against cebuanos,  She turned off not only cebuano speaking filipinos but filipinos of cebuano descent, such as myself.  I think she is immature and unworthy of being a public servant much less a senator.  She will be petty and divisive, ala-show biz.  But after having experienced the folly of having actors turned politicians, we should be wary of people coming from such backgrounds in general.

    • patukar

      Showbiz ang trending ngaun tingnan mo naka upo sa malakanyan, di ba expert sa name game, personal bashing at intrique! 

  • Anton Bautista

    A lot of revisionism going around these days.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3AXROSN6LN5YP66EONOKGSSYFY Ngiping Dilaw

    Nanalo daw si Cory over Marcos! Akala ng iba yung mga nasa EDSA revolt e kabuuan ng adult population. Malakas sa probinsya si Marcos. Hindi lang sa Ilocos malakas yon. Maka Cory ako noon at kahit pag pinagusapan si Cory at Marcos , outnumbered kami ng mga maka Marcos. Pag may sinabi ka againts Marcos, ma isolate ka,kasi marami maka Marcos.

    • muddygoose

      Pre baka naman nasa Ilokandia ka noon. Dilaw na dilaw ang malalaking cities tulad ng Davao, Cebu, Naga,…

      • Alex Alvarez

        DILAW NA DILAW? Talaga? Peks man? San ang pruweba mo?

      • muddygoose

        Do you have proof otherwise. I grew up in one of those cities and have many relatives in all of them. Usually mga under-educated lang naman at mga tiga-north ang loyal kay Marcos.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/3AXROSN6LN5YP66EONOKGSSYFY Ngiping Dilaw

        O, e ano ba naman ang nagawa sa bayan o naipagawang infrastracture sa bayan ng idol ninyong mga super at over educated?

      • muddygoose

        Si Marcos at si Gloria ba tinutukoy mo? Kasi alam ko sila ang well-educated sa mga naging pinuno natin. Ang sinasabi ko na ang mga loyalista nila eh yung mga… uhh… tawagin na nating mis-educated.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/LOR44FAG36G6VUXZMXPKB5RIGA glennzhette

        correction lang,yung mga napagawa ni marcos mo ay pera ng taong bayan,ok.kapag presidente ba,paramihan ng napagawa na kalsada?,trabaho yata yun ng engineer,pre.and kung talagang nanalo si marcos,bakit nag walk out yung mga taga bilang noon?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/3AXROSN6LN5YP66EONOKGSSYFY Ngiping Dilaw

        Alam ko na pera ng bayan ang ginastos sa mga project at yung iba naman ay mga foreign corporation ang may project. Pero kung ang isang Presidente ay tanga di uunahin yang mga project na yan. Iba ang idip ni Marcos.

      • MarcRoyce

        Isa ka ring IGNORAMUS…Ayala Makati lang ang kulay dilaw ninyo…wala ka din talagang bobo kayong mga dilaw!

      • muddygoose

        Naks yan lang ba ang mahaba-habang English word na alam mo? Talagang naka-all caps pa.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RYJTO7WZU5UOBJZM4AX4WMOVH4 nayve

    EVEN IN MUSLEM COUNTRY IS MARCOS IS POPULAR FOR THE RECORD HE KNOWS THE HISTORY OF SULTANATE OF SOLU

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/US2YWQTHBSTMDKWQA25RRE2W2I Ramon

    Except for her being a newbie and being a former MTRCB head, Grace Poe has no other credentials to speak of.  And she was invited to run as senator precisely due to her being a proxy of her deceased father. Truth be told, FPJ could not even talk of the country’s economic condition when he ran. He always declined interviews or debates. I could not imagine how he would have managed his administration.

    But he was a popular actor. And that is what Grace Poe capitalizes on. Nothing more.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYAZBOJYIUCRLWTYJBORBVTTOI boyfarmer

       Had FPJ won there would be so many little Presidents, making his administration a circus

  • Mon Sparks

    Ay sus. Terible gid kaayo si Grace Poe. Ayaw sa iya sang mga ilonggo kag cebuano. Wala pa syang naipakita eh. Start muna sya as mayor or congresswoman. Too early to become a senator, like Bam Aquino. Too young to get corrupted. Magpakita muna ng kakayahan. Look at Trillanes. He was so young when he won as senator through protest votes over Gloria. Hayan, walang maipakitang nagawa except kalabanin si Enrile at the right moment. Dun lang nakilala. Stll, he is in the same mode as Honasan and Bong Revilla and Lito Lapid. Parang nakiusyuso lang sa Senado.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3AXROSN6LN5YP66EONOKGSSYFY Ngiping Dilaw

      Nagmamasid lang parang napadaan lang! Ups! senado pala to, napadaan lang po!

  • sigbinko

    a BIG- FAT LIE!

  • JuanTamadachi

    Well the holy week is almost at hand and Judases like Tulfo, who betray our country and people are out to make their 30 pieces of silver. 

    What a freakin despicable way to make a living.

  • Jarred Pulido

    Marcos won by massive cheating!

    • Alex Alvarez

      prove it!

      • eorlando

        Honest and Ligitimately elected Presidents are never ousted by their own people.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/RDDM5UQ45HLPPKM66KYEBCMTCE dave

        what about Estrada?

    • MarcRoyce

      ISA KA RING TANGATANGAHAN AT NGAWA NG NGAWA BOBO AT IGNORATE KA!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3AXROSN6LN5YP66EONOKGSSYFY Ngiping Dilaw

    Ang nanalo ay si.Marcosnpero gamit ang ibang media like, radio ,tv, at newspapers pinalabas na nandaya si Marcos. kahit pumunta ka sa ibang bansa noong kamamatay lang ni Ninoy marami maka Marcos pa rin. Pag pinagusapan ang pagkamatay ni Ninoy sa ibang bansa ang sabi ng mgs Maka Marcos, Bakit nakita mo ba na si.Marcos ang pumatay? Nakita mo ba noong iutos ni Marcos ang pagpatay kay Ninoy. Yun ang isasagot sa yo. Kaya nga hindi pinabalik ng Pilipinas si.Marcos alam ni Cory na maraming loyalist si.Marcos .

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3AXROSN6LN5YP66EONOKGSSYFY Ngiping Dilaw

    Mgainiwan ng abusadong si Marcos:
    NLEX
    SLEX
    LRT
    SAN JUANICO BRIDGE
    NUCLEAR POWER PLANT
    HEART CENTER
    LUNG CENTER FOLK ARTS
    NAYONG FILIPINO
    MGA ROADS PA NORTE
    and many more.
    abusado talaga!

    • virgoyap

       Aside from the billions of Pesos that he looted from the people’s coffer throughout his more than a decade of ruthless dictatorial regime.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/3AXROSN6LN5YP66EONOKGSSYFY Ngiping Dilaw

        Tama! Bilyon ang ninakaw ng mga Marcos, KAYA AYUN HABANG BUHAY NA SA BILIBID! Matatagalan pa seguro bago lumaya.

    • patukar

      Pnoys mayron pa siyang remaining 3 years, para sa mga abnoy panatiks maraming pang magagawa si Pnoy!

    • Teresa Santos

      20 years Presidency is NOT EQUAL to 6 years Presidency

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3AXROSN6LN5YP66EONOKGSSYFY Ngiping Dilaw

    Mga iniwan ni Mrs.Cory Aquino:
    EDSA FLYOVER
    EDSA FLYOVER
    EDSA FLYOVER
    ISANG REBULTO
    Yan ang mga naiwan ni Mrs.Aquino
    sa bansa. Marami syang naipagawa kasi di sya corrupt.

  • Herman Near

    So, aside from siding with people who have no respect for elders, what else does Grace Poe have?

  • Paking

    Siguro nga nanalo si Marcos kay Cory (resulta nang bilangan) pero di ako sang-ayon na nanalo si Arroyo kay FPJ. Paano maipapaliwanag na zero si FPJ sa Maguindanao (?). Malinaw na pandaraya. At saka nanalo yong mga bobong sikat tulad nina Lapid, Revilla at Jinggoy bakit hindi yong mas sikat at mas bida pa sa kanila? Muli, malinaw na pandaraya.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/FFSZ7TIZZG47FYQFAZFIGYXKPM Pers

      bilangin ang lahat na buto para kay fpj hindi parin nanalo si fpj. maliit ang voting population sa maguindanao.all adminstration back presidential candidates won in ARMM.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    marami nagawa si cory sa loob ng anim na taon ang bantayan ang presyo ng galunggong sa palengke at bantayan ang yaman ni marcos kasi raw yung painting ni marcos ay halaga lang ng budget buong pilipinas sa buong taon! may naipagawa siya rebulto nila ni cardinal sin marcos is best president he claim also sabah!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/RDDM5UQ45HLPPKM66KYEBCMTCE dave

      Panahon ba ni Cory kamo, eh ang alam ko lang, laging brown out.

  • eorlando

    Pitiful. Even Marcos did not think he would win. If he was that popular or thought he would win an election, why did he declared matial law? Why would you round up your opposition? Why would you kill your main opponent? Why buy votes etc. etc. And if Marcos, through his deeds, did not think that he’ll win – why are his minions  think that he did? Delusions, perhaps? or  the “Silver Linings”?
    By the way, Saddam on his last election won by 99% of the vote. Election does not matter if you cheat.

  • $44545315

    Don’t believe the EDSA hype. Stop drinking the yellow kool-aid.

    Marcos won straight up, and that is just the plain truth.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

    You, yourself, admitted that both FEM & GMA cheated in both their last Presidential Elections.

    So, how can you declare that both this cheaters won? Do you have any proof in your statement?Since both, FEM and GMA cheated, how could you estimate their winning margin, 
    net of  their estimated cheating.? (your statements are based on estimates-based-on-estimates)

    I’m quite sure, several of your “acquaintances”.., would 
    be willing to call your bet that Ms.Poe-Llamanzares would not win.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/RDDM5UQ45HLPPKM66KYEBCMTCE dave

      Booooooo…dream on Mamerto

  • jojotolentino

    Grace Poe has MMK to win votes and don’t need Cebu.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7NBDAKI2NEZOL7BEFGQ32Q4H5E Dindo

    If you are only came from the province you will really know how FPJ leads the votes. Kung tingnan mo sa voting precinct, halos 1:20 ang vote count.. Napakaraming supporters ni FPJ. Gloria will go to hell sa dami ng mga taong niloko niya. He lied not just to a single person but to million kaya ang kasalanan nya ay millions…

  • rickybob121

    Sa Cebu Province halos walang local candidates si FPJ thats why he lose !! FYI GRACE POE!!!

  • $44545315

    Ferdinand E. Marcos: A True Filipino Hero.

  • Teresa Santos

    What??????

    Mr Tulfo, are you drunk??????

  • $44545315

    Ferdinand E. Marcos: A Great Filipino.

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