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Lim hits back at Estrada camp, accuses ex-president of bullying cop

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Mayor Alfredo Lim and Joseph Estrada. FILE PHOTO

Over the weekend, reelectionist Manila Mayor Alfredo Lim was accused of political harassment over the arrest of Vice Mayor Isko Moreno and five candidates for sponsoring a bingo session.  But on Monday, his rival, former President Joseph Estrada, was accused of the same offense for allegedly bullying a police officer who arrested Moreno and five others.

In separate press conferences on Monday, Moreno denied that Estrada hurt the Blumentritt police community precinct head, Chief Insp. Ed Morata, while Lim challenged the vice mayor and the councilors to resign if they could not prove that he was behind the arrest.

The word war stemmed from the arrest on Saturday of Moreno, Councilors Joel Chua, Ma. Asuncion “Re” Fugoso, Ernesto “Jong” Isip Jr. and Yul Servo Nieto and former Councilor Manuel Zarcal over a bingo event on Tambunting Street, Barangay 374, Zone 38 in Sta. Cruz, Manila.

Moreno, who was accused of taunting Morata and Manila Police District Station 3 commander, Supt. Ricardo Layug, to arrest him, cried harassment, insinuating that the order came from Lim, maintaining that bingo was not an illegal gambling activity and adding that his wife was also being threatened.

Lim held a press conference at the Manila City Hall to set the record straight and stop the “lies” and “drama,” calling in the 14 policemen who arrested Moreno and the five councilors, as well as Morata, Layug and the MPD director, Senior Supt.  Alex Gutierrez.

The Blumentritt PCP is under the MPD Station 3 in Quiapo, which has jurisdiction over District 3. Rep. Naida Angping, Zarcal, Councilors Bernardito “Bernie” Ang, Chua, Fugoso, Isip and Nieto, whose names appear on the bingo cards along with Estrada’s and Moreno’s, are opposition candidates in the district.

According to the police, the bingo cards were sold for P10 each with prizes of P5,000, P10,000 and P15,000 in cash.

Morata said he received a call Saturday complaining about the bingo event on Tambunting Street. When he and his men arrived, a staff of Ang negotiated with them to allow the raffle of the prizes instead.

Morata said that when Moreno arrived, he told the police, “Aren’t you afraid that we’ve already filed complaints against DD (Gutierrez) and (Station 5 commander Supt. Ferdinand) Quirante in the Ombudsman and Napolcom?”

The complaint was about the scuffle between the police and District 5 candidates in a raffle event in Paco on Feb. 6.

Layug added that Moreno asked the people, “Papayag ba kayo na hindi ituloy ang bingo (Is it okay to stop the bingo)?” Layug said he warned the vice mayor that he would be arrested. Moreno asked for the “bolilyo” and said “Sinong mang-aaresto? Ako hulihin mo (Who will make the arrest? Arrest me, then).”

“Ibola nyo po para consummated (Raffle it out so the act is deemed consummated),” Layug said. After Zarcal announced the bingo ball “N 44,” the police proceeded with the arrest and a ruckus ensued.

“We secured the councilors when the crowd went unruly. Bottles and rocks were being thrown indiscriminately. That is the reason this kind of activities need permits,” Layug said.

Aside from illegal gambling, the complaint filed against Moreno’s camp included obstruction, assault and resisting arrest.

“They’re saying they were detained for nine hours. Police officers have the right to investigate a person suspected of violating the law. And with the gravity of the offense, they could have been investigated for 36 hours and it would still be within the law,” Lim said.

At the prosecutor’s office around 2 a.m., Morata said that Estrada repeatedly jabbed him while he was being interviewed by Inquest Division Chief Elaine Yarra-Cerezo.

Estrada allegedly told him, “Pag hindi ka nagsabi ng totoo, tatlong buwan ka na lang, pag-upo ko.”

“Sigurado ba syang mananalo sya?” Lim quipped.

“In fairness to Vice President Binay, napaka-professional nya po, sa harapan sya nakaupo,” Morata said.

When asked, Morata said he wouldn’t file an assault case against Estrada. “Ayoko pong masabing namumulitika. Gusto ko lang po malaman ng lahat ang totoo. Hindi po ako namumulitika, at hindi rin po kami tuta ni mayor (I don’t want this to be seen as politicking.  I just want everybody to know the truth.  I’m not into politics and we’re not lapdogs of the mayor),” he said.

Moreno responded to Morata’s accusation in a separate press conference, “You are forgetting, you’re the one who hurt us. Don’t twist the story. You detained us for nine hours and a half, that’s the truth. And we proved you wrong. The fiscal said you were wrong. And now you will make a story that President Erap threatened you?”

“The truth is we didn’t violate anything. We were released for further investigation due to insufficiency of evidence,” Moreno said.

Major Bernabe Irinco, an aide of Estrada, also said that two persons were between Estrada and Morata, “so his accusation was impossible,” according to the former president’s spokesperson, Margaux Salcedo.

Lim commended the police for doing their job and said he would provide them with lawyers.

“Ang mga pulis sawa na sa demanda. SOP na ng lawyers ng kriminal na kapag inaresto, kinabukasan may reklamo na (The police are fed up with being sued.  It is the SOP [Standard operating procedure] of lawyers of a criminal when he is arrested is to file a case against the cops the morning after),” he said.

“Ako hindi na dapat makialam dito, pero dahil pilit idinadawit ang pangalan ko, makikialam na ko. Susuportahan ko tong mga pulis dahil tumutupad sa tungkulin (I shouldn’t have been dragged to this, but since they dragged my name, I will now intervene.  I will support the police officers who were just doing their duty),” Lim said.

“Tutal gusto nyo makuha pwesto ko, kapag napatunayan nyo na inutos ko sa tatlong officers na to (referring to Morata, Layug and Gutierrez) na arestuhin si vice mayor at yung limang konsehal, magreresign ako. Pero pag hindi naman nila napatunayan, magresign naman sila. I challenge them with resignation at stake, mahilig lang din kayo sa sugal (Anyway, since you want to take my position as mayor, if you prove that I ordered these three officers [Morata, Layug and Gutierrez] to arrest the vice mayor and 5 councilors, I would resign.  But if they can’t prove that, then they should resign),” Lim said.

“Darating pa at magmumura sa presinto (They even came to the precinct and threw curses). What are you trying to prove, that you’re above the law? Na-convict ka na above the law pa (You have been convicted and yet, you think you’re above the law?),” Lim said, alluding to Estrada’s plunder conviction.

Lim denied that he knew about the bingo events held by Moreno and the councilors when they were still allies.

“Dahil daw sa eleksyon.  Hinahaluan ng pulitika. Wala akong order. Sila ang namumulitika para mapansin sila ng tao. Wag silang magpaloko sa nagkukunwari, gumagawa ng eksena at drama. Iniinterview sa TV, mukhang kawawa, nagda-drama lang to eh, sanay sa drama (They say that the arrest was related to the elections.  They’re mixing politics into this issue. I did not order such a thing.  They’re pulling political tactics to gain the attention of people.  The people should not be fooled by those out to deceive them, those who are out to create a scene and drama.  They make themselves look pitiful when being interviewed on TV.  But they’re just creating drama, they’re used to drama) ,” Lim said.


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  • doctor_mengele

    This is a fight between the camps of Erap and Lim. There is a good probability that there is politics involved here. With all the illegal gambling going on in Manila, why this one?

    But that is not my concern.

    What I am concerned is how ERAP behaved during the whole bruhaha…
    Please note this……

    1. Erap was visibly DRUNK when interviewed by the Media.

    2. He was poking and punching the side of Lt. Morata saying, “Magsabi ka ng totoo” repeatedly and “tatlong buwan nalang, ako na uupo dyan, patatangal kita”….He was doing this, in front of the city prosecutor while undergoing inquest.

    Here we go again. The whole country got rid of him and found him to be guilty of Plunder, now, the city of Manila will voting to get him back into power.

    This is brazen arrogance. Isko Moreno, who was also voicing out threats to the police, was also displaying an arrogant stance showing that also he has a mentality of impunity….meaning, ” I AM A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL and THUS, I AM UNTOUCHABLE. CROSS ME IF YOU DARE.”

    Binay, who was physically there, did not get involved in the whole merry mixup.

    Enrile was even wiser, did not go there at all, probably fearing his involvment would further drop his son’s rating lower to gutter level.

    UNA is giving us an insight into their mindset, as far as discipline and humility is concerned, meaning, no humility after all. ERAP was displaying, LIQUID COURAGE, however, he is not a Winston Churchill.

    Never trust a womanizer as if they could lie to their wife, they can lie about anything. Lim, as far as I know, was never a womanizer. His lifestyle is frugal if not spartan.

    People of Manila, be care of who you vote for, unless you want Asiong Salonga back running your city. You city, blessed with so much history and folklore, deserves so much better.

    People of the Philippines, vote your candidates wisely. Take a look at the UNA candidates.
    Ibang-iba sila umasta. Siga at sangalo.Tipong Basag-ulo.

    God Bless the Philippines….

    • magcalasL

      pag sa akin ginawa ni erap yan, basag mukha nya

    • indiosbravos2002

      Erap was obviously annoyed and mad since he’s drinking bout with his Sunday drinking buddies was cut short.

    • Carlos_Iho

      I’m not a fan of any of them but Lim’s move was simply foul.

  • El_Gran_Capitan

    Etong si Moreno, so young but so corrupt as the late Mayor Arsenio Lacson said

  • Jane Tan

    Its high time to move to a different country if Estrada will still win.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TWVIBNBHJIBKXLUC5IT2JYM5E Harry

      You’ll make him just too happy.

      • Jane Tan

        I don’t think me leaving the country will make him happier than ripping off millions of Filipinos AGAIN =)

  • 1GeorgeTolentino2

    Pare-pareho kayong mga trapo. magpatayan nalang kayo para mabawasan na ang katulad nyo sa mundo. Walang iiyak at mag bubunyi ang mga taga maynila kung sakaling mag-ubusan kayo.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WNJTQYHM4B5XMJAU6PCPFHYSSQ Francisco

    Lahat ng UNA candidates puro corrupt. Kasi naman yung Tatlong Hari ng UNA ay mga pasimuno ng corruption tapos pagnahuli sasabihin nila political harassment.

    Siempre ang UNA gaya ng mafia at ng yakusa ang kanilang battle cry “walang iwanan!” Kay Team PNoy pag na hatulan ka ng corruption hindi ka na pwede sa kanila.

    Etong si Erap kung umasta isang sanggano talaga. Can’t he present his case soberly? Sabi niya “pag upo ko tatlong buwan ka lang!” Nanduduro pa si Erap eh siya itong nahatulan ng plunderer. Huwag kalimutan convicted siya. Binigyan lang siya ng pardon.

    • El_Gran_Capitan

      UNA nga eh, UNA sa koruption, UNA sa pagiging protector ng mga mandarambong at UNA sa pagiging berdugo ng bayan

    • beerhunters

      I agree, Guiseppe Stradi de Bigote has the mentality of a Mafioso, ala Mike Corleone!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/GLW5OHAPXL4AJI46Q4UNN5EEJE toti

      correct.kapal talaga ng pag mumukha ng mga Estrada na yan silang mag ama noon diba sabwatan sa jueteng.napatalsik sa pwesto mga  nakulong na pardon eto nnmn,pag nanalo ito sa manila tuloy ang jueteng jan.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4RLENCX7D5QB7BPFJFBENEPZNE rage b.

      naku si erap pa kaya nga convicted yan tapos yung mga anak nya lahat gusto e pwesto parang si nognog lahat gusto sa kanila tapos kahitr mali yung una nila sige pa rin.

  • tiopaero

    Mas maganda siguro mag-suntukan na lang sila erap at Lim. tutal pareho naman silang ogok

    • magiting78

      Hmmm ganda proposal yan….kanino ka pupusta pre…Dirty Harry o Asyong?…Dirty Harry ako…ang manalo pipitikin itlog ni Isko…ang matalo tatanggalin mga block spot ni Lim…Bwahahahaha…Mga Trapo mag laho na kau, kawawa n ang bayan…

    • beerhunters

      Bring it on! Dirty Harry versus Filthy Bigote(w/ smudge of female smegma)!

  • ebj

    These politicians as well as our political system need to GROW UP!

  • Guest

    i love bingo!
    sa bingo di ka mabibigo!
    tanging sa bingo aasenso ang mga pilipino
    kahit di ka magtrabaho basta nandyan ang mga politikong katulad ni isko moreno!

  • Victor Magallanes

    What kind of a mammal is an “ex-presiding”?

    • Sammy Delarna Antonio

       ha ha ha. That caught my first attention. Banner headline pa naman.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UQXLAHQCCIEO3WMCTNZSWIE3AI Lagotka

    Joskopo! Pagnanalo ang UNA di pwedeng makriticize sila. Tanggal ka kaagad pag ayaw ka nila! 

    Bakit mayabang pa rin itong si Erap? Di ba siya nahihiya siya nga etong puro kasamaan sa buhay – alak, sugal, babae, anak sa labas, jueteng, nangungumisyon sa lahat ng transaction basta dumaan sa gobyerno?

    • calipso_2100

      Nahihiya????  Pinapatakbo pa nga nya sa senado ang anak nya sa labas.

    • Jason_Voorhees

      Dati na niyang bisyo ang mga yan pero nanalo pa rin siyang presidente! Sa palagay ko tao na me problema hindi na siya..

  • beerhunters

    Guiseppe Stradi di Bigote, il mafioso di tutti mafiosi!!

  • PnoyMePagasa

    i love bingo
    sa bingo di ka mabibigo!
    tanging sa bingo aasenso ang mga pilipino,
    kahit di ka magtrabaho basta nandyan ang mga politikong katulad ni isko moreno!

  • sakinlang

    For once, can the Comelec show some guts to disqualify these candidates?  Manila needs better political leaders.

  • yxoiyiu

    kung talagang naniniwala sina erap at isko na hindi sugal ang bingo, ipagpatuloy lang nila ang pa-bingo.

    • Jason_Voorhees

      Basta ikuha lang nila ng permit ke Meyor. lol

      • Noel

        May permit ba ang illegal gambling kung ilegal man ang turing sa bingo nina Moreno?  Para sa akin, isang campaign ang ginawang bingo doon kaya pinatigil ng Pulis sa utos na rin ni Lim.  Napakaraming mga ibang sugal sa Manila wala tayong nabalitaan na inaresto ng mga Pulis.

    • Noel

      Ordinaryo na ang bingo sa Manila at kahit saan.  Napakaraming mga sugal sa Manila tulad ng jueteng, tupada eh itong bingo nina Moreno ang pinag-interesan ng mga Pulis sa utos ni Lim.

    • indiosbravos2002

      Basta wala lang cash prize na 5k, 10k at 15k. Galing daw sa perang naplunder ni Erap

  • speedstream2

    Isn’t it kind of mind-boggling that, in the 21st century, politicians are still playing the same old tiresome games and going by the same tattered playbook?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WWOTOJASNHRXAP77UNRETCZZGQ ulrich j

    Binaboy na  ng husto ng kung sino sino  opisyal  yan MAYNILA…Syang  kung  mula noon pa may mga lider na gaya  ni ROBREDO siguro  napakaganda ng lugar na yan.Pwede itapat sa mga first class cities sa buong  mundo..

    Mga lider at kandidato na hanagng  ngaun sarili lang ang iniisip…Mga tao na walang  isip  na bumoboto s mga katuld nila… 

    Mahiya naman kayo pare pareho!  

    Oh Lord bakit si LOLONG pa…si LOLONG na BUWAYA na kahit minsan hindi nagnakaw sa bayan.Bakit ang mga BUWAYA na ito malalaki n ang tyan pati ang pamilya ay sagana? Bakit di na lang sila?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/WWOTOJASNHRXAP77UNRETCZZGQ ulrich j

      And the Lord  replied:

      Mga anak,

      Firstly, of all the BUWAYA’s, LOLONG is the only one  who has a soul. You know very well that my kingdom is for those my creations who possesed a soul  maging sya man ay tao  insekto  o buwaya. Ang mga buwaya  n gsto nyo  ay kunin ko  matagal pa lang inarbor n s akin ni  TANING ang mga yan. Bhala n sya sa kanila.

      Secondly, sobra dami  ng mga BUWAYA na walang kaluluwa hndi sila kakasya sa kaharian ko at kung mgkasya man e  baka  pati ako patalsikin sa pwesto  at ipakulong. paano na lang kayo? 

      Thirdly, the continues presence of these CROCODILE JONES on earth is a reminder to all of you that evil exist because good men do nothing. gets nyo?  ano p hnhantay nyo  aksyon na tama na reklamo.
       
      Lastly. please dont ever  question my  judgement again!  ever!

  • boybakal

    Lim hits back at Estrada camp, accuses ex-presiding of bullying cop…

    As the saying goes…if it is election time you can hurl all the dirts to your opponent.
    In local lingo…batuhan ng dumi, ebak at baho.
    In the case of Lim and Erap, you can really smell the odor..
    As old as 75 and 85 Erap and Lim really stinks.
    Mga amoy lupa na…amoy ebak pa….talagang mabaho…literally.

    • Noel

      Mas malalim ang hidwaan nina Erap at Lim.  Pero para sa akin, ang walang utang na loob ang siyang may kasalanan.  Ilang beses na tinulungan ni Erap si Lim?  Tapos ang ginanti ni Lim katraydoran.

      • indiosbravos2002

        Isko Fulgoso Damagoso este Moreno, ikaw ba yan?

      • Noel

        Wala akong bilib sa mestisong bangus na si Isko.  Tulad ng pagtraidor ni Lim kay Erap, nagtraidor din si Moreno kay Lim.  Parehong walang utang na loob.

      • Twister12

        Erap ikaw ba yan?

      • joshua kings

        si isko ay isang ambisyosong tradpol…gagawin ang lahat manalo ang…well, what’s new? mula kay binay, hanggang kay erap, enrile, etc., lahat yan gagawin ang lahat makamtan lang ang gusto.

        di ba may kasabihan: “tell me who your friends are and i will tell you who you are.”  sino si erap at sino si enrile? si erap ay puro kasinungalingan ang pinagsasabi nung kasagsagan ng paglilitis ng kaso niyang plunder; kaya nga na-deposed; gaya ng amo niyang diktador, siya ay bahag ang buntot na tumakbo at lumayas sa malakanyang dahil naduwag sa galit ng taongbayan. si enrile, nag-sinungaling sa kanyang memoirs tungkol sa kanyang ambush nung bago idekler ng diktador yung martial law….

        parehong sinungaling, silang ahat..

      • Noel

        Hindi po.  Si Jude Estrada ako.

      • nes911

        Wow, nagladlad na ng baro si sister.

      • Noel

        Ibig mong sabihin bading o silahis si Jude?  Naging best friend lang naman niya si Danreb.

  • jgl414567

    Lahat na lang yata ng mga sumusuway sa batas binibigyan protection ni Binay, Erap at Enrile. Ito ang magiging kalakaran pag nanalo ang UNA, pag malakas ka untouchable ka, pweeeeh!

  • jgl414567

    Ang kapal naman ng ex-convict plunderer na si Erap! Dapat dito ibalik sa kulungan @#$%^#$%!!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YISKR3NYDDEGILBKONLOLFFIR4 Jhonil

    gn2ng eksina dn yun nangyri kay gwendolyn garcia.pinalabas na cla ay inaapi dhil nahuli ang kanilang kasalanan..to the rescue agad c binay at erap dhil kaalyado nila..ngun c isko moreno nmn nagdrama pra mgmukhang kawawa ang taong bayan kso di n umubra huli n ang gn2ng taktika.mga botante ganito bang klaseng pinuno ang gs2 ntn mahihalal s eleksyon?mgisip isp n tayo mga pilipino.hw much more kong nkaupo n ang mga e2 cgrdo wlang batas batas pra s knila bsta kaalyado.!!

  • $16638896

    akala ni erap na kupal uurungan sya ni lim hehehe

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7HA5P2ABEIRCO45U26VLV5FEZA Torogi

    these police officers are doing a good job – no one is above the law, kahit isko moreno ka pa. at saka ikaw erap, mahiya ka sana  sa sarili mo. wala kang ginawa kundi ipagtanggol ang mga salarin na katulad mo.

    • $8866117

      si erap ay hanggang ngayon nasa harap ng entablado at umeeksena bilang si “Asiong Salonga” Manilenyo should not vote for erap, instead vote a Crime buster LIM

      • Noel

        If Lim is a crime buster, why are there still lots of crimes in Manila ?

      • $8866117

        kahit dito sa Toronto isa sa pinaka safe city all over the world, crimes are still being committed here Toronto. Ano pa sa Manila

      • Noel

        Sagot ko lang iyan sa may nagsabing crime buster si Lim.  Crime buster pero patuloy na talamak ang krimen. Huwag mong isama ang Tonto mo sa Canada.  Diyan ka na lang pards.

      • $8866117

        magpalitan tayo ng komento, wag tayong magbastusan. Okay. dude. Bad for your health

      • Noel

        May tama ka.  Basahin mo ang isa o ilan dito nagmumura pa.  Sorry kung na-mispell ko ang Toronto.  Napabilis ang type ko at naging Tonto.  Cool ka lang bro.

      • $8866117

        ikaw ang dapat maging cool and just relax and enjoy the ride dude. and Have a nice day. At wala akong tama.

      • Noel

         Sabi ko tama ka bakit ka nagalit?  Pahingi nga ng ice wine diyan.

      • nes911

        Sister, kung gusto mo ng lugar na walang crime, sa sementeryo ka manirahan at wag ka ng umalis duon forever.

      • Noel

        Mare, kahit sa sementeryo maraming krime.  Nandoon nakatira ang mga snatchers, drug addicts at pushers.  Subukan mong manirahan sa North Cemetery.

    • Noel

      Doing a good job but only to Moreno’s group that organized a bingo game.  But are those police officers stopping and arresting other gamblers in Manila?  Lots of them around and worse.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPN3L3JH7H6VYTE6IWV2CWDI4Q Amparo

    Aba talaga naman etong si rapgustong protektohan ang sugal. Hay buhay!

  • Noel

    Parehong mali ang dalawang panig.  Imposibleng galawin ang Vice Mayor at mga Konsehal ng mga Pulis kung walang utos sa nakakataas.  Eh sino ba ang nasa itaas ng Manila kundi si Lim.  Isa pa, sa dami ng mga sugal sa Manila na hindi ginagalaw, bakit ang bingo nina Moreno ang tinira? 

    Sa pag-bully naman ni Erap sa Pulis.  Tutoo iyan.  Noong Mayor pa siya ng San Juan, ginugulpi niya ang mga lokong Pulis.  Kaya nga naging matino ang mga Pulis San Juan noon.  Itong Morata, talagang lagot siya kapag manalo si Erap.  Di palalagpasin ni Erap iyan.

    • indiosbravos2002

      Yong ex-convict mong amo, pagsabihan mo naman. Respetuhin nya naman yong pulis. Ano bang laban nong ordinaryong pulis sa convicted felon na to. O ganan lang talaga mga kriminal galit sa pulis. 3 mnths daw, owwwws? Marunong na ba syandg magbilang o parang senglots na naman si Erap magsalita. Hehehe

      • Noel

        Hindi ko amo si Erap.  Pero kung pagpipilian ang isang maraming bisyo at isang traidor na walang utang na loob, doon na ako sa may bisyo.  Galing si Erap sa birthday party ni Jinggoy at maaaring nakainom.  Isa pa, galit si Erap sa mga nagsisinungaling.  Siguro nagsisinungaling iyong Pulis kaya nagalit si Erap.

      • joshua kings

        eh di galit na galit si erap sa sarili dahil nung nililitis yung kaso niyang plunder na kung saan convicted siya ay puro kasinungalingan ang pinagsasabi; kaya nga convicted….

        hahaha!  nag-boomerang mga sinabi mo, hehe…

      • Noel

        Balikan mo ang kaso ni Erap.  Hindi natuloy ang impeachment niya dahil pinagkaisahan siya ng mga kaaway niya.  Bigla na lang nag-walk out ang mga prosecutors.  Hindi man lang naipagtanggol ni Erap ang bintang sa kanya.  Tapos idenemanda siya ng graft and corruption ni GMA.  Dahil may bail, walang nangyari.  Sa mga sandaling iyon ay todo ang pakiusap ni DOJ Sec. Nani Perez na kung pumayag si Erap na umalis ng bansa, walang mangyayari sa kanya.  Eh hindi pumayag si Erap.  Ayun, plunder ang ibinato sa kanya dahil walang bail o piyansa.

      • nes911

        Sa madaling sabi, convicted pa rin siya sa plundering, sister. Ang ibig sabihin, certified syng isang mandarambong ng kaban ng bayan. Isa syang magnanakaw para maintindihan mo, sister.

      • Noel

         Nandoon na tayo mare.  Pero jueteng ang dahilan na talamak pa rin ngayon at higit pa.

      • 33Sambuang2

        supot ka

      • Noel

        Gusto mong makita?  German cut pa.

    • nes911

      Iihan pa niya sa paa kamuka ng ginawa nya nuon sa isang pulis. Asal hayop kasi.

      • Noel

        Hindi uubra ang mga pasaway na Pulis kay Erap.

  • John_Galt_II

    Natakot din yung pulis kay Binay maligno! Professional daw. Papaano naging professional yan kupal na yan kung nakisali pa diyan? Kung may isip yan maligno na yan hindi yan pupunta sa presinto!

  • Rio Legaspi

    Pare-pareho kayo walang silbi…mga tulisan.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MEGIRFUGZ6NQSAF4JMGHZSIIY4 Joseph

    For integrity, I will sided with Lim.

    • Noel

      Integrity?  Iyan ang wala kay Tsekwa.  Ginawang DILG Sec ni Erap.  Tapos noong Edsa Dos nagsinungaling na aalis muna para ayusin ang PNP at gulo.  Iyon pala nasa entablado na at tinitira si Erap.  Nang nasa Tanay si Erap, humingi ng tawad kay Erap si Lim iyon pala nagpatulong para masama sa ticket ng Genuine Opposition.  Etong si uto-utong si Erap pinatawad at tinulungan.  Tapos, nakalimutan na ni Lim.  Iyan ba ang may integrity ?

      • catalansbarce

        Napansin ko sa mga comments mo Pards..,panay depensa kay Erap..,
        magkano ang pasuweldo ni Bigotelyo sa iyo.?

      • Noel

        Di naman pards.  Pinag-uusapan kasi sina Lim at Erap.  Eh kung pipili ako sa dalawa, kay Erap na ako.  Hindi ko kasi masikmura ang traidor at walang utang na loob.  Isa pa, naniniwala ako na pinatalsik si Erap sa pamamagitan ng sabwatan ng ilang grupo.  Masama na kung masama at korap pero hindi naman siya nag-resign.  Eh si GMA mas masahol pa natapos ang siyam na taon niyang ilegal na pagka-pangulo.  Kasi ba naman protektado ng CBCP at ilang Obispo pati na ang mga kasabwat niya sa pagpatalsik kay Erap isa na si Ramos.

  • Guest

    satsat dada ng mga tanda. hoy! umayos kayo! palulusubin ko mga descendant ni solaiman at lakandula dyan sa maynila para pugutan kayo ng mga ulo! asiong at dirty harry lang kayo! di kayo tunay na filipino. di kayo tunay na mga lalake.

  • tata_boy

    sample lang ito, imagine kung ano ang mangyayari kapag nahalal ang mga kandidato ng UNA?

  • indiosbravos2002

    Imbes na magpabinggo naBINGO si Isko ng pulis. Si Erap naman nangtakot pa ng pulis. Ganyan talaga ex-con galit sa pulis. Kaya si Erap ayaw na ayaw kay Lim.

  • mandirigma832

    Pagnanalo si erap balik ang huweteng sa Maynila naman.

    • indiosbravos2002

      Di lang jueteng. Pati japokpoks, red light district, drugs atbp balik sa dati. Number 1 parokyano nila si Erap.

      • Noel

        Di ba meroon ang mga iyang binanggit mo sa Manila na si Lim ang Mayor ngayon?  Eh ano ang pagkaiba kung si Erap.

      • indiosbravos2002

        Magiging LEGAL lahat kay erap yan. Sya pa protektor.

    • Noel

      Anong balik ang jueteng sa Manila?  Matagal nang may jueteng sa Manila at talamak hanggang ngayon.  Gising na hoy !

  • indiosbravos2002

    I am not happy with how Lim runs the city but Erap will make it worse. Kaya Erap balik ka na lang sa San Juan.

    • Noel

      Let’s not conclude that Erap would make it worse.  He handled San Juan very well for many years and he may be able to handle Manila as well.  Choosing between two evils, I pick Erap over Lim.

      • tagalinis

        He handled San Juan very well when he was less corrupted! Through the years, he became so corrupted, what with all the keridas and kids to sustain plus the 
        drinking and gambling. Don’t forget the power that he felt! That’s one thing that he can’t forget which is why he is now running for office again. 

      • Noel

        I partly agree.  But you’d agree with me that most politicians are corrupt just depends on the level of corruption.  Is anyone worse than GMA and her spouse the Fat Guy?  She even surpassed Marcos’ records.

  • $14334231

    siga si lim….siga si asiong….mag duel na lang kayo sa luneta…..matira ang matibay….puro kayo dakdak dahil eleksyon na naman…..pareho lang naman kayong kurakot….pwee…..

    • Noel

      Kung dahil hindi sa pagtraidor ni Lim kay Erap, siguro hindi iisipin ni Erap na tumakbo ng Mayor sa Manila.  Para ano pa?  Naranasan na niya ang lahat.  Wala na siyang kailangan patunayan.  Galit lang si Erap kay Lim at si Erap lang ang may laban kay Lim sa Manila.

      • nes911

        Ang gusto ni erap ay makuha ang contract ng paghahakot ng basura pero di sya pinagbigyan ni lim kaya nagkasamaan sila ng loob. Ang gusto ni lim ay lumaban sa bidding sila erap pero ang gusto ni erap, i-award na sa kanila ang contract. Kya ang nangyari, pinaambush ng kampo nila erap at isang general ang involved, ang head ng bidding komite na si atty. Garaybalas. Dito na tuluyang nasira ang relasyong erap-lim.

      • Noel

        Nandiyan na tayo.  Posible iyan.  Sa pulitika kasi, bigayan lang naman.  Ang laki ng utang na loob ni Lim kay Erap iyan lang di pa pinagbigyan.

      • $14334231

        salamat sa impormasyon mo…ngayon alam na ng mga botante ng maynila kung ano ang pinagmulan ng alitan nitong dalawang escariote…di ko nabasa sa diyaryo o narinig sa radyo ang nangyari kay garaybalas….at sino ang heneral na ito…bakit hindi mo pinangalanan ng malaman ng buong madla kung sino man ang hinayupak na ito….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z6R2QAY7UWNJMTCRTED3JZXPIA Joey

    in a choice of which is the lesser evil, Lim wins! and for that matter, Isko should go!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RRFGBCEJ6OURIE3PW3I5YCH3FQ Hideki

    Set up lahat ito ni Isko..para magmuka syang inaapi at makuha simpatya ng manilenos.. hehe 

  • Garibaldi_II

    A former law enforcer vs a former lamplighter; a lawyer vs a plunderer.  One who talks candidly and acts strictly is against one who talks poorly and acts wealthy.  Voters, the choice is yours.

  • johnllander

    What do you expect from the camp of joseph ejercito?  Magpapogi lang sa masa, hanggang ganyan lang sila.  Inuuto ang masa.

    Don’t vote for joseph ejercito!

    Ibagsak ang una!

    Unahin ang una na itapon sa basurahan!

    • Noel

      Yes, don’t vote for Joseph Ejercito.  Vote for Joseph Estrada.

    • spider69

      tama ka dre. hindi mo ba nahalata the way magsalita si Erap nang sumugod sa presinto ay nabubulol. Why kasi naka-inom ( Lasing ) ito ba ang iboboto ko.

  • sabudrey

    I was born American but 100% Filipino by blood.
    Ang hirap sa atin kahit Magnanakaw ay pwede pa ring kumandidato,
    like (Imelda Marcos, Chavit Singson, Erap Estrada)
    Ang pinaka masakit pa Pwede pang manalo.

    The most effective way of re-building our country is by RAISING OUR STANDARDS.

    • spider69

      hindi mo ba nabasa ang isang news item na ang mga Pinoy botante ( Pinoy voters ) ay mga bobo at tanga.

      • 33Sambuang2

        e bobo naman at tanga. iboboto ang mga magnanakaw at ang namumudmod ng pera

    • Noel

      Bakit, si Bush ba malinis?  Siya ang numero unong kriminal sa buong mundo.

  • aeon888

    Mayor Lim is right that no one should be above the law. In that case, the police should start investigating and filing cases against extra-judicial killings that Mayor Lim was supposedly involved during his term as police chief and his term as Mayor of Manila. Even if the murdered victims has criminal records, but as Mayor Lim said it himself “That no one should be above the law”.  THe killing or pag salvage sa mga kriminals is against the law, so the NBI should investigate Mayor Lim and his goons.

    The PNP should Arrest Isko for illegal bingo game, arrest Erap for assault on a police officer, and also arrest Mayor Lim for his past crimes against “salvaging”. NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, you said it yourself mayor Lim.

    Unless he is a hypocrite and the law only applies to Isko, Erap and to the kriminals that his men killed. Then Mayor Lim is the only one who is ABOVE THE LAW.

  • WAJ

    Kapag ang pulisya ay sumusunod lamang sa pagpapatupad ng batas sasabihin naman ng mga nakatayu sa pulitika ay gawa ito ng kontra partido. Ang bingo ay sugal at kong isasagawa sa publiko na may halong pera ay masasabing illegal gambling. Ngayon, kong naman ito ay gagawin lang sa loob ng isang bahay na pangpamilya lang ay maaring sabihin na game at past time lamang. 

  • rodben

    Lahat ng politico sa Pinas ay magnanakaw kya nga investment to joint pinoy politics ay 100million and above…ang mahalaga maraming nagawang kabutihan sa mamamayan….yon lang Ijah..

  • rodben

    Hindi tulad ng iba puro paid surveys and propaganda para matakpan pagnanakaw at pagpapayaman ng mga alimpuris…pero mamamayan labis ang kahirapan…

  • Guest

    01. Representative Zarcal? Hindi ba ito yung anak ni Timoteo Zarcal na pinatumba ng ABB? Tulad ng ginawa ng ABB kay Joe Pring?

    source: philstar,com/headlines/87772/abb-man-pring-zarcal-slays-falls

    02. Councilor Bernie Ang? Hindi ba ito yung may anak (Francis Brian Ang) na nagtatrabaho dati sa Citibank, Binondo Branch na nasangkot sa pagdespalko ng mahigit sa 100 milyong piso ng Citi wealth management funds?

    source: abs-cbnnews,com/business/08/20/10/citibank-exec-goes-missing-millions-stolen

    • nes911

      03. Si isko may kabit na estudyante. Source: COLLEGE OF LAW,PLM

      • Noel

        Eh ikaw na ang maging pogi at Vice Mayor.  Itanong mo si Sen. Bong Revilla, Lito Lapid at napakaraming mga pulitiko diyan kung wala silang mga kabit.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WN5TKEXEJ2VHQVNGP2CJEDLJH4 Jess

    Hay nakow Dirty Harry, nong kumandidato kang senador di ba lumapit ka kay Erap, tapos ganyan ang sasabihin mo, samantalang alam mong gawa-gawa lang ang plunder case laban kay Erap, kaya pinalaya siya agad ng mismong nagpakulong sa kanya.

    • spider69

      No, it’s true. hindi gawa-gawa lang plunder case ni Erap. Totoo ang jueteng na bintang sa kanya, kaya siya nakulong. pinalaya siya ni GMA para mag-pabango ng name si aling Gloria dahil mabantot na.

    • JakeR8

      AND YOU BELIEVED ERAP IS CLEAN? WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES…

    • 33Sambuang2

      magkape ka para magising ka sa katotohanan….. taga hugas ka ng pwet ni erap kaya ganyan na lang pagtatangol mo sa kanya. pisot

    • nes911

      Uy, type na type mo si erap sister…kahit na ex convict, sugarol, babaero, mandaramnong ay oks na oks sa yo basta pogi. Hindi ka siguro taga maynila.

    • Noel

      Tutoo iyan.  Patawarin na ang mga nagkasala o mga may bisyo pero hindi sa isang traidor at walang utang na loob.  Di natin masisi kung bakit ganyan ang tampo ni Erap kay Tsekwa.

  • joshua kings

    nakakahiya talaga ang mga pulitikong ito; gagawin ang lahat para manalo….
    lalo na itong convicted president na ang tanda na nag-a-ambisyon pang maging pangulo ng siyudad na ito na hindi naman niya talagang tirahan dahil simula nung sinauna pa sa kabilang siyuyad siya nanaula…ang kapal talaga.  ang takaw sa poder at puwesto.  mahiya ka naman, hoy!

    kayong mga manilenyo, iboboto ninyo ba ang isang estranghero na ex-convict at di naman taal na taga-manila? 

  • PeteJrfern

    Respect the police? matutu mo nang mag respect ang pulis sa taong bayan.  Sila and naglilingkod sa taong bayan, they are there  to serve and protect.  In this case sila ang nanggulo.

    • JakeR8

      Were you there to know what really happened?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

    ” According to the police, the bingo cards were sold for P10 each with prizes of P5,000, P10,000 and P15,000 in cash. ”

    Talagang sugal pala… Wala pang permit… Tala ang mga pulis dahil bawal ang magpasugal lalo na kung walang permit. Malakas lang ang loob nila Isko kasi alam nilang nariyan sa likod nila sina 3 Kings O Tatlong Kenkoy…

  • mamamia

    HAY NAKO ERAP LAGI KA NALANG PAHIRAP! DINADAAN MO NA NAMAN SA PAG KA ACTION STAR MO ANG MGA BOBOTANTE SA MAYNILA, NAPAKAHUSAY PARANG SCRIPT SA PELIKULA, KAYA KAYO MGA MANILENYO MAG ISIP ISIP AYO KUNG SINO IBOBOTO NYO.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

    Moreno, who was accused of taunting Morata and Manila Police District Station 3 commander, Supt. Ricardo Layug, to arrest him, cried harassment, insinuating that the order came from Lim, maintaining that bingo was not an illegal gambling activity and adding that his wife was also being threatened…

    Taunter ka pala! O ayan nasampolan ka. E di nakita mo ang hinahanap mo…

    • 33Sambuang2

      isa ka pang isko ka na hudas, hestas, barabas….tagalinis ng pwet ni erap. pwehhhh

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

    Battle cry ni Lim—Linsanity sa America, Limsanity sa Manila !!!

  • http://pedestrianobserver.blogspot.com/ Political Jaywalker

    Clearly when Isko asked the crowd if they will allow the police to stop their bingo he is inciting the people to riot, defy and assault the police officers trying to enforce the law. I wonder why they released Isko and party for lack of evidence, was it because they were afraid of Asiong Estrada’s bullying?

  • balut123

    Bakit parang lasheeng si bigote habang iniinterview sa prisinto?…kawawang mga Manileno pag nahalal ang hinayupak na ito….para silang kumuha ng bato na ipinukpok sa ulo nila…

    • 33Sambuang2

      korek. lasengero, babaero, sugarol numero uno…. convicted na presidente sa plunder tapos kakandidato pa uli. maraming mga massage parlor na naman ang magooperate sa manila nyan. sympre sya ang valued client………….

      • vince_bugaboo

        pag hindi nanalong mayor ‘yang si estradang mandurugas, kakandidato pa rin s’yang barangay tanod. may pera din don maski di masyadong malaki. kasi once a mandurgas, always a mandurugas.

  • lolo_Jose

    HINDI pa nga nahalal na MAYOR si ESTRADA PINAKIKITA NA NIYA ANG ASAL ASO
    NIYA!!! PAANO PA PAG NALUKLOK NA MAYOR PA SIYA? BAKA ASAL SATANAS
    NA MULI ANG IPAKITA NIYA!!! TAGA MANILA, HUWAG NINYONG PAPAYAGAN NA 
    ANG SENTENSIYADONG MANDARAMBONG NA SI ESTRADA AY MAGING MAYOR

    NG MANILA!!! AT SI ISKO NA NAGING SYOTA NI GERMAN MORENO NA ALANG
    PINAG ARALAN ang maging Bise Alkalde muli!!! HULI na sila sa AKTO NA SILA ANG NAGKAMALI PERO PILIT NA BINABALIKTAD ANG TOTOO!!! MGA WALAKAYONG KWENTA!!!

  • Simplify1

    Ang card na pinagbibili ng 10 pesos na pwedeng manalo ng 5,000, 10,000 or 15,000 ay sugal regardless whether through bingo or raffle… ang hindi sugal ay kung mga ibibigay na card ay libre tapos mananalo ng premyo!! 

    Anong KLASENG DOUBLE TALK nanaman yan!  Kala kasi ni ERAP na sing bobo nya lahat ng mga taga maynila!!  Sa San Juan ka na lang magkalat!!

    • Concur_Dissent

      DOUBLE TALK?  What else is new?  Ang UNA kasama na siempre si Erap ay hindi bilib sa “matuwid na daan” ni PNoy and at the same time sinasabi rin nila na hindi sila ang kalaban ng presidente…. so, double talk?  talagang ganyan yang mga yan!  wag nya na sanang ipagkalat ang kabobohan at kabahuan nya sa Maynila!!

  • 33Sambuang2

    bobo si erap , bobo si isko, talamak kang sugarol erap, di mo alam kung sugal yon or hindi? hay naku, power hungry ka kasing bobo ka

  • tagalinis

    .

  • nes911

    Patay na ang maynila kapag nanalo si erap at isko. Lahat ng kanto magkakaroon ng binggohan, sakla, sa pula sa puti, at jueteng. Siyempre hindi mawawala ang inuman sa kalye at mga prosti.

  • doublecross

    kung manalo si erap at isko…layasan ko ang maynila. 

    • Noel

      Sige.  Lumipat ka sa San Juan o Davao City.

  • Carlos_Iho

    They are all trapos.  However, it all started with the stupidity of one trapo ordering the arrest of other trapos for a petty matter which did not warrant the attention it attracted.  

    Betting or money is essential to gambling which the police, who were stupid enough to be used in this political game, could not present as evidence.   A bingo tambiolo is not evidence of gambling. 

    What a joke Phil. politics is and the police are the funniest (dumbest) clowns. 

  • vince_bugaboo

    Si estrada ay ordinaryong civilian. Si Morata is an officer of the law. 
    And Estrada threatened him? Kung ang gumawa ng ganon sa  isang pulis ay isang ordinaryong juan, di kaya s’ya mawala forever?  Hayup talaga sa pilipinas, an ha?

    • Noel

      Ibig mong sabihin baka na-salvage si Erap kung simpleng tao lang siya.  Kung sa bagay, uso sa Manila iyan.  Si Lim hari ng salvage.

  • vince_bugaboo

    Pag political candidate ka pala, takot ang mga pulis sa’yo, ano? Kaya pala natakot si Morata kay Estrada.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AR3F3RNQX4U3PKBI526NJI6BYM Jose

      Wala kasi siyang bulletproof naChedeng, si Singson mayroon kaya naka resbak.

  • abbaj

    SI ISKO DOMAGOSO NAGPA TSUPA LANG YAN KAY KUYA GERMS KAYA SUMIKAT. MAYABANG NA TAO YAN. MGA TAGA MAYNILA SIGE MAGPA LOKO NA NAMAN KAYO SA DATING KABIT NG BAKLA.

  • joeybg

    Vote UNA daang maganda….. para sa mga Kawatan….. Fiesta araw-araw, pasugalan kahit saan ka magpunta.

    Mga Tanga, Bobo at sugarol huwag ng magdalawang isip.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AR3F3RNQX4U3PKBI526NJI6BYM Jose

      Tama ka, pati budol-budol dumami noong panahon ni Erap big time pa, kunyari may pa-project tapos wala naman palang pondo hihingan ka lang ng SOP to “kickstart” daw ng process.  Kaibigan ko nadale ng 1.5M.

  • $19543087

    “Estrada allegedly told him, “Pag hindi ka nagsabi ng totoo, tatlong buwan ka na lang, pag-upo ko.”

    You hear that?  He is not even elected as mayor of Manila!  And here he is threatening a police officer who is just doing his job.  If you elect him rest assured that their will be illegal gambling everywhere in the city.  That will be his source of income.  This is the kind of person you don’t want to led your city.  SUGALERO, BABAERO, LASENGERO, BOOOOBOOO,GAAAGOOO, KULANG SA EDUKASION, ETC.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AR3F3RNQX4U3PKBI526NJI6BYM Jose

      Style niya dati nang bulok. Remember his EO #1 made even before he assumed office is to oust a man who he thinks did not support him – Gordon as SBMA chairman.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ELGS2BPKJKG5PDWJAOOCF7K5KI Albert

    The circus is back in town. I hope the brain dead residents of Manila do not vote for this idiot. Time to put him to pasture and retire like the lame duck he is.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W7TPARCYJFCSA3PBQAM3MVZO3E kurakut

    BASTA EX-CONVICT SIGA-SIGA!  ILABAS MO MGA TATOO MO ERAP!

  • garcia677

    Once Estrada won as Mayor of Manila, crime rate shall escalate. He’s an inveterate gambler, drunkard and playboy who till his dying day shall be one so what do you expect but the worst to happen. It’s a foresight bred from observing his words and actions these past few years from pardon of his crime of plunder. It’s a fact that Estrada never changed from his ways, he’s still a drunkard, gambler and womanizer.

    I pray and hope that these manilenos won’t vote for him

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AR3F3RNQX4U3PKBI526NJI6BYM Jose

    Ex presiding? Baka yun ang sinabi ng ininterbyu, nabubulol eh.



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