Church: Gov’t pursued charges vs Celdran

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Carlos Celdran. INQUIRER FILE PHOTO

MANILA, Philippines–The Archdiocese of Manila on Wednesday sought to distance itself from a potential backlash over the court conviction of artist Carlos Celdran by pointing out that the Church did not pursue charges against the popular tour guide for disrupting services at the Manila Cathedral in 2010.

It was the government, through the public prosecutor, that charged Celdran before the courts for “offending religious feelings,” a crime under the Revised Penal Code, said Peachy Yamsuan, communications chief of the Archdiocese of Manila.

The archdiocese did not pursue the case on the instructions of the then Manila Archbishop Gaudencio Cardinal Rosales, she said.

“The Archdiocese of Manila did not pursue the case against Mr. Carlos Celdran for violation of Article 133 of the Revised Penal Code. While deeply disturbed by the incident, (Cardinal Rosales) gave instructions for the Archdiocese to no longer pursue the case,” Yamsuan said in a statement.

The archdiocese issued the statement after President Aquino on Tuesday urged the Catholic Church to “forgive” Celdran.

“Cardinal Rosales has long forgiven Mr. Celdran … The criminal case against Mr. Celdran was pursued by the State represented by the public prosecutor and a lay private prosecutor,” Yamsuan said.

A Manila court earlier this week found Celdran guilty of violating Article 133 of the penal code, which punishes those who “in a place devoted to religious worship or during the celebration of any religious ceremony shall perform acts notoriously offensive to the feelings of the faithful.”

The conviction carries a sentence of imprisonment of at least two months and 21 days up to a maximum of one year, one month, and 11 days.

Yamsuan pointed out that the prosecution presented four witnesses, “none of whom were from the Archdiocese of Manila.”

She said three of the witnesses were from the Episcopal Commission on Biblical Apostolate of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines, the organizer of the ecumenical event at the cathedral that Celdran disrupted, while the fourth witness was a churchgoer.

Yamsuan said that how the case proceeds on appeal would not be up to the Archdiocese of Manila or the Church.

Monsignor Nestor Cerbo, rector of the Manila Cathedral, said that while the Church has forgiven Celdran, the latter should still do “penance.”

“When we go to confession, we are forgiven by God. There is penance, there’s a prayer to God but we also have to compensate for the damage done,” Cerbo told Church-run Radio Veritas.

Catholic Church teaching holds that while sins are forgiven when a Catholic goes to confession, it does not necessarily remove all the “temporal punishment” for one’s transgressions, he said.

Court records show that at about 3 p.m. on Sept. 30, 2010, Celdran, dressed to look like the national hero, Jose Rizal, disrupted an ecumenical prayer service at the cathedral when he went up to the main altar and held up a placard with the word “Damaso” written on it.

“Damaso” was a hated Spanish friar, in Rizal’s novel “Noli Me Tangere,” which tackled the abuses of the clergy during the Spanish colonial period.

Among those attending the ecumenical service–held to mark the second anniversary of a joint Catholic-Protestant campaign to distribute Bibles–were Cardinal Rosales, the Papal Nuncio, others Catholic bishops, Protestant leaders, a rabbi, and military and police officers.

Celdran, a supporter of the reproductive health bill that was then being hotly debated, was also quoted as saying: “You bishops, stop involving yourselves in politics.”

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PJTH3SHQU3B4TCUVRH2UXZCJDY Balahura

    It was the government, through the public prosecutor, that charged Celdran before the courts for “offending religious feelings,” a crime under the Revised Penal Code, said Peachy Yamsuan, communications chief of the Archdiocese of Manila……Is this a crime vs the people of the Philippines? I don’t think so. Magaan na offense lang ito para patulan ng gobyerno like panggugulo, maingay, nakaka inis. iyan lang ang weight ng kaso na ito marahil ay naglagay para matuloy lang ang kaso. Kaso na natuloy na wala na ang nag aakusa… Now he is accused without an accuser….

    • indiosbravos2002

      Pag dina interesado naagrabyado at di na nagshowup sa hearing abay dapat archived na kaso o niresolve na nang judge in favor ng inaakusa.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    Tsk.tsk.. so the culprit now is DOJ Sec. De Lima? Again?

    We have already the issues about the fiasco on Mr. Amalilio’s deportation. The controversy about the Quezon shoot-out, and now this one?

  • tonyoks

    naghugas na agad ng kanilang kasalanan  ang mga pilatong ito…

    • speaksoftlylove

       Kung naghuhugas kamay ang CBCP mas bistadong naghuhugas ng wetpaks ang idol mo.

  • UrHONOR

    “LAVABO inter inocentes manus”……sapul-na-sapul ang mga naka-sayang puti!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7US4SIEZOJLP4A3BQLYYDY6UWQ Kim

    ang damaso…hugas kamay agad…

    • bahaykubo1015

      Ano pa?
      Wala naman daw silang sinampang demanda, it was the govt. prosecutor who chanrged Celdran.
      Anong akala ng mga nakasayang puti na ito……Lahat ay tanga!!! kikilos ba ang prosecutor kung walang sampang demanda??
      Maski nga massacre ay pinapabayaan, ito pa kayang minor offense……kung magpalusot lang kayo galing galingan nyo naman…..nakakainsulto eh

  • Jomex

    This is what happens when religion intrudes into secular society. Whoever came up with this piddling law obviously wanted to claim special privilege for his religion. When will religious followers and their leaders learn that they are not immune from criticisms? Celdran did not kill anyone. He is within his right to speak his mind especially on important matters such as the Church excessive involvement in politics.

    • justsaying

       I think you could be misinformed.  What exactly do you think Celdran did? Write about his experience?  Express his opinions to his readers/friends?  No on is claiming special privileges but I’d think everyone deserves respect in their own abodes something Carlos Celdran failed to do when he entered the Church and held a placard Damaso and even shouted at the Church, during a service no less. 

  • speaksoftlylove

    Tingnan naman ninyo.

    Glaring proof that PNoy, the Great Imp, is a master of deceit and spin stories just to discredit the Church. Why doesn’t PNoy withdraw his religion and transfer to another sect so that he can organized his yeallowvampires to malign the Catholic Church to his heart’s content?

    By the way, yesterday the CBCP announced “a litany of storms” in PNoy’s government which did not merit any space in this media. Why are they afraid of the truth? Can’t they handle the truth? They prefer to publish PNoy’s lies instead. Simply pathetic.

    • shane oy

       lol… just lol

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PJTH3SHQU3B4TCUVRH2UXZCJDY Balahura

      pnoy will plunder the riches of the church

    • indiosbravos2002

      Have you read your post. If people start transferring en masse, whats the assurance that he Catholic faith will still be the dominating religion. Baka matulad yan ng Lakas party after the exodus of its members… naging joke.
      I also dont think the Vatican will want additional transferees. Baka masipa dyan yong mga bishops for being incompetent in managing one of the last bastion of Catholicism..

  • Ari Putan

    may hiya pa rin pala ang mga clergy…
    pero lilipat na ako sa ibang relihiyon…

    • speaksoftlylove

       Isama mo si PNoy as soon as possible.

  • bogli_anakdami

    hoy kaksaker padre dumbasso, mga flips eh gung gongs na, tinatanga mo pa ng husto  – you own flipland gub’ment… the flip traposakals are in your payroll, di ba?  …lokohin mong lelong mong panot…

    biro lang, kaksaker padre dumbasso… kelan ulit ang ating preyer oooopsier prayer breakfast dito sa shang-ri la, makati?…

    matagal na rin akong di nakakapunta doon eh…

  • julymorning

    HUWAG IKULONG ANG BADING AT SUPOT NA CELDRAN KASI MAG ENJOY LANG YAN SA KULUNGAN. STYLE LANG NYA YAN PARA MAKALIBRE NG MGA LALAKI. DAPAT PALABASIN YAN AT ITALI SA ESTATWA NI RIZAL AT LAGYAN NG POSTER NA NAKASULAT AY “BUGAW ” O “KSP”

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PJTH3SHQU3B4TCUVRH2UXZCJDY Balahura

      pari ka ba? di ba kayo ang bakla at mahilig sa lalaki eh bakit inngit ka kay Celdran marahil gusto mo na ma rape ka ng 100 kolono

      • julymorning

        EXCUSE ME NO, BAKA IKAW ANG BAKLA. AKOY DALAGANG PILIPINA. BAKIT MO PINAGTATANGOL ANG AROGANTENG BADING NA CELDRAN? AW, KABARO MO NGA SYA, PANGALAN MO PALANG E, BALAHURA.
        AT PATUNGKOL SA BAKLANG PARI, PALAGAY KO MAS MADAMING CHIKSBOY NA PARI NA KATOLIKO. ANG KARAMIHAN NG BADING AY IBANG RELIHIYON, KATULAD NG RELIHIYON NYO NI ABNOY CELDRAN

  • Meow Ming

    Jesus was persecuted and crucified because He hurt the feelings of the Pharisees.

    • superpilipinas

      He-he-he. Jesus did not protest inside the synagogues. He did not show disrespect even if he was being persecuted.

      • Meow Ming

         Yes, but the pharisees did’nt think so.

  • disqus_EWrSdjV1nv

    gagawin nyo pa bang bayani si celdran?

    • superpilipinas

      good point. he-he-he. but 6 months in jail does not make a hero.

      give him 6 years to make him hero. prison homos would also like him to be their hero.

  • Albert Einstien

    the COURT should withdraw his JUDGMENT …NO less than PNOY ..the chief executive and the supposed victim ( the church ) ….pnoy asking for pardon( that is an EXPRESS PARDON already ) & church NOT interested on the case already …APPEAL court should remand the case to judgment court …

    • superpilipinas

      he-he-he. do you understand how the judicial and executive branches work?

      and read the article again. the church does not have anything to do with it anymore.

      • Albert Einstien

        i know the church is saying ” Alea iacta est “…lol

  • bahaykubo1015

    “It was the government, through the public prosecutor, that charged Celdran before the courts for “offending religious feelings,” a crime under the Revised Penal Cod” said Peachy Yamsuan, communications chief of the Archdiocese of Manila.”

    Anong kalokohan ito??? KIkilos ba ang government prosecutor kung walang demanda??
    Palosot na naman kayo. Mga sinungaling!!!!!

    • superpilipinas

      he-he-he. di tanong mo kay Mr. Prosecutor.

      ay sorry di ka sasagutin, wala palang FOI….kasi mas gusto nila unahin ang condom law….he-he-he.

    • indiosbravos2002

      They still think modern Catholics are stupid and uneducated. There was a time when joining the priesthood was an honor and prestige to the family. It was not cheap and easy to send ones son to the seminary. Nowadays, it seems joining the priesthood is similar to joining the police. You need to be stupid, confused, and have low self esteem to join either one. Kaya ganyan reasoning ng pari, weird, mababaw at medyo tanga.

      • bahaykubo1015

        na bull’s eye mo

      • justsaying

         Hi, you speak as if you know everything.  As you belittle the Church and its priests, they do the work people like you have forgotten/dislike to do like tending to the poor, abused, most disadvantaged.  Following Christ is not about honour and prestige or doing it bec it was expensive.  It’s not some exclusive undertaking that is only for the rich, it’s about doing the right thing, the rewards of which are not to be had in this world but in the next life.  How dare you think so ill of people born to much disadvantage yet overcame those circumstances to serve others.  I’d say those people are better off than you.  You’ve obviously been born to good circumstances and yet you use such to denigrate people rather than uplift them. 

      • indiosbravos2002

        Ano daw?

    • Bamm Gabriana

      Remember that this is a violation of the Revised Penal Code, making it a criminal case not a civil case. Thus, it does not require a complainant.

      • bahaykubo1015

        Kikilos ba ang prosecutor kung walang sampang demanda??

        Maski nga massacre ay pinapabayaan, ito pa kayang minor offense……kung magpalusot lang kayo galing galingan nyo naman…..nakakainsulto eh

      • superpilipinas

        he-he-he. basahin mo ulit. sino ba nagdemanda?

      • bahaykubo1015

        Basahin mo rin uli…….yon nga ang gustong lusotan ng mga pari at obispo….hindi raw sila nagdemanda at matagal na raw nilang pinatawad si CELDRAN, DAMAGE CONTROL???Mga tanga lang ang naniniwala sa kanila di ba Father???

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    DAMASO WAG NINYO HAWAKAN SA LEEG ANG GOBYERNO JESUITS PUT CELDRAN IN JAIL DROP NA NINYO YUNG KASO NAG SASABI LANG NAMAN SI CELDRAN NG 220 NA DUMARAMI ANG BATANG HUBO SA KALYE IBA TALAGA PAG MALAKAS KAY LORD JESUITS PUT YOU IN JAIL

    • superpilipinas

      he-he-he. lumang tugtugin na yang damaso ninyo. di na bumebenta.

      magreklamo ka kay Mr. Prosecutor at kay PNoy. he-he-he. hawak nila ang kaso ng idol mo.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        pinag bintangan mo pa pnoy ha talaga pati yung wala alam pinag bintangan mo pa OBISPO ang nag kaso kay celdran sila din ang mag aatras ng kaso basta talaga cbcp bishops mga sinungaling na wagas SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO BISHOP OSCAR CRUZ MUKA KANG GALUNGGONG SALOT

      • superpilipinas

        he-he-he. maling puno tinatahulan mo. basahin mo ulit.

        naduduling ka na sa sobrang galit.

      • carreo

        Patingin kana sa Psychiatrist,,overboard na yang Anger problem mo…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO CBCP BISHOPS KATOLIBAN TERRORIST LIAR PWE!

  • Yahilaw

    One can’t talk about Celdran without talking about Damaso as well. That’s why the bishops try to distance themselves away from him the best they can. Gov’t on the other hand tries to stick Celdran to them like a thorn, to keep them busy and away from meddling into politics.

  • rjimenez1226

    hahaha. ang gagaling talaga ng mga obispo. mga hindot ng moralidad. mga alibughang anak ng kadiliman.

  • bahaykubo1015

    Anong akala ng mga nakasayang puti na ito……Lahat ay tanga!!! kikilos ba ang prosecutor kung walang sampang demanda??
    Maski nga massacre ay pinapabayaan, ito pa kayang minor offense……kung magpalusot lang kayo galing galingan nyo naman…..nakakainsulto eh

    • davaodurian

       Ito pa si bahaykubo1015…nagmamarumarunong pa. Magtanong ka sa abogado mo!

      • bahaykubo1015

        Hello Father
        Kailangan pa bang magtanong sa Abogado? Just look around you??? Mayroon na bang minor offense that was pursued by the government prosecutor without someone filing a case in court?? Were you born yesterday????
        Kung yong hold-up, rape o massacre inaabot ng siyam-siyam ito pa kaya??? At ang bilis!!! 
        Tapos itong mga nakasayang puti nagpapalusot na wala daw silang ginawa man lang to put Celdran in prison!!!!! HYPOCRISY
        Why were they very afraid to admit that they filed a case against Celran??? It’s their right isn’t it??? COULD THEY JUST BE HONEST ONCE IN A WHILE???

        O baka sanihin pa nila na ito ay isang DIRECT INTERVENTION FROM HEAVEN…..as if they have a direct communication with God……SO IF WE ARE AGAINST THEM WE ARE SURELY AGAINST GOD!!!!!
        Mga DAMASO’s.
        Luckily for us, most Filipinos are better educated now than during the Spanish times. Most people don’t swallow anymore hook, line and sinker what the DAMASOs wanted them to believe…

      • bahaykubo1015

        Hello Father,
        Kailangan pa bang magtanong sa abogado???? Just look around you???
        Was there a minor offense pursued by the prosecutor without a suit filed in court???? Were you born yesterday?
        Kung yon ngang robberies,rape or massacre inabot pa ng siyam-siyam….Ito pa kaya?? At ang bilis ng verdict.!!!!
         
        Could not the white robed ones be honest once in a while and admit that they had a hand in putting Celdran in prison??? Why were they very, very afraid to admit that??? Right nila yon di ba?? PALUSOT PA SILA Why continue with this hypocrisy and maintain that they had nothing to do with it????
        Or baka gusto pa nilang palabasin na WHAT HAPPENED WAS A DIRECT INTERVENTION FROM HEAVEN???
        They act as they have a direct communication from heaven so IF WE ARE AGAINST THEM WE ARE AGAINST GOD…
        MGA DAMASOs
        Luckily most Filipinos are better educated now than during the Spanish times.
        They don’t anymore swallow hook, line and sinker what these Damasos wanted them to believe…..

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    Let us say what needs to be said. President Aquino was playing to the younger crowd of ages 18 to 35 when he asked the Catholic Church to forgive Celdran. The vote-rich demographic of 18 to 35 are overwhelmingly supportive of the RH bill, less likely to obey the teachings of the Catholic Church unquestioningly and are active online. By pandering to the younger voters, President Aquino hopes to win more support for his Team Pinoy in the May elections. While the Catholic Church is hardly blameless for what it has done to our country for the last 500 years, Celdran’s prosecution and subsequent conviction are indisputably legal processes sanctioned by the state. It does appear that the Pharisees of the Catholic Church have successfully shifted the blame on PNoy the Pontius Pilate. How President Aquino chooses to wash his hands will be interesting to see. Had Jesus been around to witness all this, he would have rendered unto Caesar what is Caesar’s.

  • superpilipinas

    he-he-he. he deserves it. it’s a slap on the wrist.

    What would happen to an anti-muslim  protester inside a mosque?

    stupid abuse of freedom-of-speech.

    he-he-he. some people just can’t control themselves, can’t accept that the church can not be provoked…no matter how much negative attacks is hurled unto it. the church uses those negativities as a great source of improvement opportunities. that is why it gets stronger. 

     

    • indiosbravos2002

      Dont compare what muslims will do with that of catholics. Muslims have their own culture of violence that Catholics do not have.

      • kevin quin

        wow.

  • indiosbravos2002

    Sino namang tangang maniniwala kay pader. Hindi tatakbo ang kaso pagwalang magdedemanda. Wala nang kaso kung di na interesado ang naagrabyado, pag ganyan wala ng karapatan ang estado na ipursue kaso kasi wala naman silang stake dito. Kasinungalingan na naman ng mga bishops ito.

    • Bamm Gabriana

      There is a difference between a civil case and a criminal case. Civil cases require the aggrieved to pursue the case. Criminal cases are pursued by the state even without a complainant. This is a violation of the Revised Penal Code making it a criminal case.

      • bahaykubo1015

        Anong Revised penal code ang pinagsasabi mo???
        Maski nga massacre ay pinapabayaan, may sampa pang ilang demanda ito pa kayang minor offense……kung magpalusot lang kayo galing galingan nyo naman…..nakakainsulto eh

      • davaodurian

         @google-83154ba49f7e49bda5ab64ab72afc621:disqus …Absolutely correct. This is a criminal case and so even without a complainant, the case will prosper.

  • hans0713

    Burn celdran at stake to teach other not to offend
    cbcp’s religious feeling. Just like what it was
    during the inquisition

    • davaodurian

       @hans0713…huwag naman. Ang parusa ay nakasaad naman sa batas. Ikulong lang at kung maari yung maximum penalty ang ipataw para magtanda yang aroganteng tisoy (tisay?) na yan.

  • 7_mgawalanghiyakayo

    Kulang pa ang parusa na yan! Sana pahabain pa to the max!!!!Dagdagan pa sana yan ng public disturbance….and PLEASE be reminded that the law violated by CARLA de Celda is not a churh law, it’s a law of the state,,,,, Why blaming to the churh for the conviction not the to the law making body????????????????

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TWVIBNBHJIBKXLUC5IT2JYM5E Harry

     “You bishops, stop involving yourselves in politics.”
    The statement of Celdran did not desecrate the name of God. He merely advised the bishops not to meddle in politics, indirectly reminding the bishops the separation of the State and the Church. The words did not contain anti-Christ sentiments but he did disrupted a gathering while delivering his message.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AX6JJVDK2YVZ56DN4TTOMJFRHI Doods

    Ganito naman madalas ang gawi ng mga Catholic Clergies. Pag napansin na maraming tao ang hindi sang-ayon sa kanilang action biglang kambyo agad at babaguhin ang stand nila…..wala silang ipinag-iba sa mga trapong pulitiko na walang isang salita!

  • opinyonlangpo

    Pontius Pilate washed his hands too.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TWVIBNBHJIBKXLUC5IT2JYM5E Harry

    If an individual creates disorder in a house, the master of the house should file a complaint to law-enforcing authorities. Here is a case where there are only witnesses but no complainant and the accused was convicted.

    When Celdran appeals his case, the complainant in his Motion is JOHN DOE?

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Bobo! :)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

    Pero sana kapag naman ang mga pari ang napatunayang nagkasala halimbawa sa kasong pagmomolestya sa mga kabataan ay gayon din ang dapat gawin ipakulong rin sila…

    • davaodurian

       Kahit sino naman ang lumabag sa batas dapat ikulong. Kaya si Carlos Celdran na lumabag sa batas ay hindi exempted. Tiyak mapapatunayan ng mga testigo na lumabag siya sa batas at dapat ikulong yang aroganteng hunghang na iyan!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SALOT TALAGA OBISPO PINAG BINTANGAN PA GOBYERNO SILA ANG NAG BIGAY NG KASO KAY CELDRAN SINUNGALING TALAGA ANG MGA DAMASO DOBLE STANDARD KAYA WAG MAG TITIWALA SA MGA NAKASOOT NG PUTI DAMASO DROP NA NINYO YUNG KASO KAY CELDRAN JESUITS NOT 4GIVE NAG SASABI NAMAN SIYA NG 22O DUMARAMI ANG BATANG HUBO SA KALYE BASTA CBCP BISHOPS WAGAS NA SINUNGALING SALOT PWE!

  • Victor Magallanes

    People of the Philippines vs. Carlos Celdran y Pamintuan. Criminal Case No. 387435-SA. 

    There was no need for a complainant. It was you (yes you), them, me and us, the Filipino people, whom Celdran offended.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TWVIBNBHJIBKXLUC5IT2JYM5E Harry

      The State cannot be the complainant because it is not the Church.

    • davaodurian

       @Victor Magallanes…Tumpak!!! The nincompoop and arrogant Carlos Celdran violated a law of the land. Dapat ikulong yan sa Manila City Jail. Ayos ang pagkatisoy niya doon!!

  • rouelcalzita

    He should be punished for an offense he has committed…Church is not the venue for protest, most especially that ecumenical activities has being held inside the church.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    DAMASO WAG NINYO HAWAKAN ANG GOBYERNO SA LEEG DROP NA NINYO YUNG KASO MGA SALOT NA CBCP BISHOPS JESUITS NOT 4GIVE KAYO ANG NAG KASO KAY CELDRAN IBIBINTANG PA NINYO SA GOBYERNO MGA SINUNGALING NA WAGAS SALOT

    • superpilipinas

      He-he-he. tumatahol sa maling puno.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    PINAG BINTANGAN PA NG CBCP BISHOPS  ANG GOBYERNO TALAGA MGA KAMPON NA ITO NAG PAPAGULO SA PINAS GUS2 HAWAKAN ANG GOBYERNO SA LEEG KAYO ANG NAG KASO KAYO RIN ANG MAG DROP JESUITS NOT 4GIVE CELDRAN MGA SINUNGALING TALAGA OBISPO SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO CBCP BISHOPS SALOT!

    • bogli_anakdami

      hinay hinay lang, pre!… para kang ginahasa ni kaksaker pader dumbasso…

    • superpilipinas

      He-he-he. Edgardo…He-he-he. Tanungin mo si Mr. Prosecutor at at si PNoy. Hawak nila ang kaso ng idol mo.

      Kahit mag ngangangawa ka diyan. he-he-he. di mo masasali ang simbahan sa kalokohan ng idol mo. 

  • superpilipinas

    why is this even news?

    PDI again wants to draw the church into the argument when the church does not have anything to do with the prosecution of this clown. It is between DoJ and this clown.

    It gives the perception that PDI is ANTI-RC.

    But that’s ok with RC. It encourages free-will and free-press….but not disrespect of religions whichever it may be or committing crime. 

    • joshua kings

      ang PDI editor matagal ng ‘galit’ sa Diyos yan…ito namang si tubeza mukhang sumisipsip…slanted laban sa simbahan ang artikulo….buti pa nung buhay pa si g. isagani yambot.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    HUGAS KAMAY ANG UNYANGO CBCP BISHOPS KASASAMA NG MGA HA YOP NA ITO KAIITIM NG MGA BUTO PAG TINGIN MO SA ANINO NG MGA ITO MAY SUNGAY BALUKTOT NA LALO NA SI SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO BISHOP OSCAR CRUZ MUKA GALUNGGONG MUKA NATAPALAN NI CORONA NG PERA SA MUKA KAYA PUMANGET SALOT

    • joshua kings

      you are being blinded by your ignorance of the revised penal code.
      maghunus-dili ka; di mo alam ang mga pinagsasabi mo dito.

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Papa hugas TT.

    • RalphGordon

       hehehe, patingin ka na, ngayon lang ako nakakita kung papaano mag type ang sintu-sinto.

    • davaodurian

      @Edgardo Mendoza….Easy..easy…easy…at baka atakehin ka sa puso. Tumingin ka sa salamin at baka ikaw na yung tinutubuan ng sungay na baluktot. Check mo canine teeth mo at baka tumalas-talas na at humaba. Sinyales yan na malapit ka na magbago ng anyo…Beelzebub na ang anyo mo. Hahaha!

  • http://ourleftfoot.blogspot.com/ Tristanism

    Pano ba ang nangyari? Sinabi ng mga pari na itigil na ang kaso pero ayaw pa din tumigil ng prosecutor?

    • joshua kings

      a crime punishable under the revised penal code becomes a case of people of the philippines versus the accused/felon.   and the state thru the prosecution (which found a prima facie case against the convicted felon) must pursue the case until judgment is rendered by the court.   the church is not the litigant or petitioner here.
      please open your ears.  the church has long forgiven celdran.  don’t muddle the issues anymore.  otherwise, you are letting yourself be used by the devil, the purveyor of lies.

      • http://ourleftfoot.blogspot.com/ Tristanism

        Thank you for the reply.

        Gusto ko lang malaman for sure kung ang gobyerno ang kusang nagdemanda kay Celdran. Ganun nga ba yun?

    • bahaykubo1015

      Nakakatawa nga eh Itong mga palusot nila!!!!

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Nag lalabasan na ang mga troll na Born-Against. Mga sinungaling at oportunista. :)  10% po ba?

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Born-Against, walang naniniwala sa pakulo nyo. Bistadooooo  na 10% nyo.  Uto-uto lang naman ang nadadala nyo, sa inyo na ang mga bobo.

  • nes911

    Hindi naman nagbigay affidavit of desistance ang simbahan. Verbal lng ang utos ni rosales kaya itinuloy ang kaso. Naghuhugas kamay lang ang simbahan dahil lumalabas na sila ay mga bengatibo.

    • davaodurian

      @nes911… The church is not the complainant in this case and so why is there a need for an affidavit of desistance?

      • Russel Solis

        The hypocritical church will deny it but everybody knows that they are behind it. Juuuuust like Pontius Pilate. Hugas kamay when convenient. They are as vengeful as the imaginary god they are portraying.

      • davaodurian

         Russel Solis….makulit ka rin. For the sake of argument, the church is behind it just like what your speculation is. It is no longer in their hands to reverse the decision of the Government Prosecutors because it’s now a case of the People of the Philippines vs. Carlos Celdran. There is a law to be adhered to.

      • PepingCo

        Russel, so now that Abnoy PNoy spoke that Mr. Celdran should be forgiven, would you agree to that? Its not even a formal letter of desistance, just a subtle verbal order from Abnoy PNoy.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

    Dapat naman siguro, maramdaman ng Simbahan, na aking kinabibilangan, na determinado ang gobyerno na pairalin ang batas.  Ang sinasabi nila ngayon ay katunayan nito.

  • http://www.facebook.com/macpoys2000 Virgilio B. Zamora

    What damage could be done when one of our church member goes to church in Jesus Christ attire holding a placard REPENT 4 D KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND ! Those who have repented will have no problem with it. But those who have not yet repented will probably have a negative reaction.

    • davaodurian

      Virgilio B. Zamora…… Then that guy who goes to church in Jesus Christ attire needs a straightjacket and brought to the mental asylum. By the way, he may need a fistful of Thorazine and a shot of Haldol before he is committed to the asylum.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AYITA5V33GYZSLC3G37UCVNTKA Ben

    If the Church would really like to be a Good Samaritan or Christ like. The Church will move heaven and Earth to forgive Celdran without any conditions for a mind is willing but the body is weak..and no exemptions maging ito man ay mga Archdiocese such as asking him to ask forgiveness to the Church! para tapos na according to the news comment by a bishop..

    Even if the government pursued it because of the law, if the offended party gave forgiveness and asked that no more case to be filed for him for the sake of Christ and peace…then it will be done, but the CBCP has something in their mind to make Celdran an example and here you can see, CBCP is making a sin of white lie to protect what they really is aiming for to fear having to protest against the Church…

    This is just a petty crime, no one was killed, or injured but only harmed psychologically the sensibilities of Religious practitioner..

    • davaodurian

      @yahoo-AYITA5V33GYZSLC3G37UCVNTKA:disqus …the Church even if she pleads for the arrogant moron Carlos Celdran, she can’t do anything. The complainant is the State because he has committed a crime. It’s now the People of the Philippines vs. Carlos Celdran.

    • PepingCo

      Is the fact that the Archdiocese of Manila did not file a case, not enough proof that they have forgiven Mr. Celdran?
      Are you saying that you approve of what Mr. Celdran did? If not, what should be the proper penalty for him?
      The fact that the government pursued the case means that what Mr. Celdran did was a crime vs. the state. I pity the government prosecutor and judge in this case. After pursuing the case and rendering judgment on Mr. Celdran, you now have the Abnoy President saying that he should be forgiven. How would you feel about that Mr. Ben if you were the prosecutor or judge?

  • PepingCo

    Is there anyone here who would allow Mr. Celdran to crash and protest in your or your family wedding or funeral inside a church and let him get away with it?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      REPUBLIC BISHOPS OF THE PHILIPPINES

  • bahaykubo1015

    PDI ANONG NANGYARI SA POST KO????….,,,NAI-“FLAG” BA NI FATHER?????
    DI BALI BABALIKAN KO KAYO PAGLABAS KO NG TRABAHO…

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