Conspiracy eyed in Atimonan shooting

Soldiers say cops tampered with evidence to show exchange of fire

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A member of the NBI fornensic team examines one of the bullet riddled SUV at the Municipal Police Station in Atimonan, Quezon where 13 people were killed in an alleged ‘shootout’ with police and military at a checkpoint last January 6.INQUIRER FILE PHOTO/RAFFY LERMA

The National Bureau of Investigation has found that the killing of 13 people at a joint police-military checkpoint in Atimonan, Quezon province, on Jan. 6 was a “conspiracy,” and decided to bring criminal charges against the policemen and soldiers involved.

NBI investigators have also learned from the soldiers who augmented the police team at the checkpoint that police officials allegedly tampered with evidence to make the killings look like the results of a shootout, a source with knowledge of the investigation told the Philippine Daily Inquirer Wednesday.

“There was a clear conspiracy to neutralize the victims, but the charges will be according to the degree of their participation that led to the deaths of 13 people,” an Inquirer source said.

The source, who asked not to be named because he was not authorized to speak to the media, said those directly involved in the killings and were at the checkpoint would be charged as principals, while those who were not at the checkpoint but were part of the conspiracy would be charged as accessories.

The source said the findings were based on examination of the evidence and the testimonies of witnesses, including the soldiers from the Army’s First Special Forces Battalion.

Local and provincial police in Quezon reported the incident as a shootout between government security forces and a group of guns for hire.

Later, it turned out that it was a police operation for the arrest of Victor “Vic” Siman, alleged operator of the numbers racket jueteng in Southern Luzon.

Siman was killed at the checkpoint along Maharlika Highway in Barangay (village) Lumutan, Atimonan, along with 12 other men who were traveling with him. The families of those men claimed there was no shootout and that the victims were summarily executed, prompting President Aquino to order the NBI to investigate.

The NBI investigation is almost over, Justice Secretary Leila de Lima told reporters Wednesday.

De Lima said she was expecting to receive the report on the investigation from NBI Director Nonnatus Rojas anytime.

She declined to confirm reports that the soldiers who took part in the Atimonan operation had been offered to turn state witnesses.

De Lima herself urged the soldiers last week to disclose what they knew, and assured them of government protection.

That must have been arranged, as the soldiers seemed to have cooperated with the NBI investigators.

Tampered with evidence

 

The source said the investigators learned from the soldiers that police officials tampered with evidence to make the incident look like a shootout.

To do that, the source said, police officials used the firearms of some of Siman’s companions, fired them, then planted them next to the bodies of those men.

The source said the police officials also manipulated the crime scene to show that there was “a heavy exchange of fire.”

“They used the high-powered firearms found with the victims and fired at the concrete [wall] of a closed resort near the crime scene,” the source said.

The source also said the soldiers maintained their claim that the first shot came from the occupants of the first of two sports utility vehicles that carried the victims.

From the testimony of the soldiers, the investigators learned that the response from the government’s side was excessive, the source said.

“One of the soldiers admitted he finished a magazine of his M-14 rifle and reloaded,” the source said.

Standing by men

The Armed Forces chief of staff, Gen. Emmanuel Bautista on Wednesday said the soldiers just did their job and he stood by them.

“Our direction is unity of effort with all security forces to address security issues. Our soldiers, they just do their job. As long as they did their job, there is nothing really to worry about because they did what they thought was right,” Bautista said in a press conference.

Bautista declined to comment on the Inquirer’s report that the Special Forces troops had been offered to become state witnesses.

“I think the justice department or the NBI can answer that,” he said.

Bautista said the military was reviewing the procedures followed by soldiers when police call for augmentation forces in their operations.

Bautista said the police’s notice of request for the Atimonan operation, made by the team of Supt. Hansel Marantan, was “under a tight time frame.”

“There was no time to study the situation. We are reviewing how we can have due diligence given time constraints. We want to be deliberate,” Bautista said.

Marantan was reportedly wounded during the operation. He has been suspended and is facing investigation on the killings.

Only 10 soldiers

 

Early reports on the incident said 25 Special Forces members supported Marantan’s police team at the checkpoint.

But clarificatory reports established the actual number of soldiers who took part in the operation at 14, as the rest of those deployed stayed behind at the Atimonan police station.

Of the 14 soldiers who took part in the operation, four were assigned to the first of three checkpoints. They did not see the killings, which happened at the second checkpoint. With reports from Nikko Dizon and Christine O. Avendaño

Originally posted: 9:15 pm | Wednesday, January 30th, 2013

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  • bogli_anakdami

    huwaaat?   NOOoooooo…!   tsismis lang ang krimen sa atimonan, di ba?  never happened…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    “One of the soldiers even admitted he finished a magazine of his M-14 rifle and reloaded,’’ the source said. 

    Of course, soldiers are trained to kill or subdue their enemies with overwhelming gunfire. In actual combat, it’s either you or me.

    • John_Cruz

      One of the soldier failed to mention they fired first in the air as warning shots. That explain why he has to reload. LOL.

  • pedronimo

    Kudos to the probers. God and country bless you.

  • Albert Einstien

    papano yun PALACE STICKER…sino KKK protektor…?..hanggang anong level lang ba ang kaya nyong  kakasuhan…bka mga nautusan lang kasuhan nyo kawawa naman..dapat yung mga CONSPIRATORs at utak…ng both sides ang kasuhan at lansagin nyo…

  • Mamang Pulis

    agoy agoy—hanggang saan ang  command responsibility nyan?

    ho ho ho–bilang na araw mo hansel–ubos ang kinita mo kina fortun brothers kung nagkataon!

    kaya hansel kumanta ka na rin—sino sino amo mo—-

  • bogli_anakdami

    walang mangyayari jan sa kaso… yung ebidensyang suv na tadtad ng bala eh ipinakilo na kay intsik beho…

    at ang mga tingga, eh ipinakilo na rin…

    magkano na ba ang kilo ng bakal/tingga jan sa inyo?

  • ryan andres

    Pulpulis, huli sa akto, tampering with evidence… mga sundalo na mismo ang nanlaglag!

    Palibhasa kasi etong mga pulpulis na pinangungunahan ni Marantado eh puros pulbura ang laman ng utak, kaya ambobobo…anyway at least malapit na matibag itong si Marantado…

    Supotintendent Marantado, dalawa lang pwede mangyari sayo ngayon: Either may rumatrat sayo bago ka mabilanggo, or may raratrat sa yo sa bilangguan. If it’s option number 2, malamang raratratin muna ang puwet mo bago ka tuluyan. Literally a case of the warden being thrown in with the inmates!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JMIY3BAK6WSUU4QYNGGDD5D4BU berong

    di makukulong si marantan. sa pilipinas,walang nakukulong na opisyal.either tumatakas or nagsasakit-sakitan.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZMYIL5FXLVIHRZXBQGONZS6U4 Jhune

    Matapang talaga ang mga nasa SUV kasi kasama nila mga pulis at militar, they are outnumbered bakit ka mag paputok? 

    • John_Cruz

      Kasi yung mga Pulis sa checkpoint mukhang bandido o NPA walang unifome. Yung mga Pulis naka civilian at naka short pa.

  • $37644997

    First and second degree murder are imminent charges.

  • Mang_Ben

    “NBI investigators have also learned from the soldiers who augmented the police team at the checkpoint that police officials tampered with evidence to make the killings appear like a shoot-out, a source with knowledge of the findings told the Philippine Daily Inquirer.”

    “The source said that the soldiers who served to augment the police forces tampered with the evidence.”

    How many sources did the reporter have?  In the two paragraphs above are the sources two different ones?

    Based on this report, who did the tampering – – – the police officials or the soldiers?

    • John_Cruz

      The Police are the primary culprit in the tampering of evidence. The AFP Special Forces just assisted the Police in tampering the evidence. Very sad Special Forces became “uto-uto” ng mga Pulis. Police have the dough (from Jueting Queen), pobreng AFP SF hoping for leftovers.

  • kontra_boohaya

    Kudos to Marantan ang the soldiers for applying what they learned in the classrooms about vehicular ambush – overwhelming, concentrated, and deadly application of firepower on the tartget.  Samang palad, lumalabas na motibo ay questionable dahil may angulong nakaw, kumpetisyon sa negosyo (mabuti na lang hindi chicks, or worse lalaki nila), droga, gun for hire, etc. etc..  Hindi ko ma blame ang mga nasa site mismo kung unag nagpaputok ay yung nasa SUV dahil kahit sino ang mentality ay “better you than me”.  Again, kaya lang, may tampering of evidence so motibo sa tingin ko ay hindi nalalayo sa mga nababasa sa pahayagan.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    Dapat lang na manaig ang hustiya sa gitna ng ating lipunan…mas nakararami ang gustong mamuhay sa loob ng batas….para sa karaniwang kabitihan ng lahat.
    Good job NBI/DoJ/PNP at ang gobyerno natin.
    PS
    biruinmo PNPA iyong plate number… at pinalampas ng unang checkpoint,???? as if cleared na sila…Iyon pala,,next checkpoint raratratin ni Marantan at ng ibang nabilog nya.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    Nasaan na ba iyong dalawa/tatlong posters dito na panay sangga kay Maratrat …F Alonzo yata ?

  • rouelcalzita

    I appreciated for an investigation well done by the NBI and its composite team who deliberated thought out.

  • rjimenez1226

    Bautista is clearly stupid. Fire him!

  • http://twitter.com/abduldarak301 abdul darak

    sana may kagaya ni marantan d2 sa region 10 na kayang pumatay ng kapwa pulis na mga protektors ng PIONEER/MERCURY Illegal suertres stations na syang pumapatay sa mga PCSO Lotto Outlets!

  • http://twitter.com/abduldarak301 abdul darak

    since 2009 pa po ang operation ng mga illegal suertres stations d2 sa cdo at bukidnon area at padami ng padami habang nagsasarahan naman ang mga pcso lotto outlets kc ala ng kita o tumataya

  • speaksoftlylove

    This unnamed source is somewhat clueless of the three kinds of principals under the Revised Penal Code. When someone is not present at the scene of the crime it does not necessarily follow that the degree of participation is only an accessory. The three kinds of principals are: Principal by direct participation (those carried out the massacre), Principal by indispensable cooperation (who may or may not participated in the actual killing) and Principal by inducement (those who offered bribes, any promise of reward like promotion in rank and other moral support (this kind of principal also do not participate in carrying out the actual killing.) Needless to say, the statement of the alleged NBI source is at least whimsical.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DY4ZZO7663TAIA3CMKZMPGHNZM Malditz

    Hurray! for the NBI’s fair & square invistagation…. Obious ba na sa dami nila sa PNP at soldier who did most of the shooting spree ay si MARANTAN lang ang tinamaan kuno? Since day one of this news
    of Shootout….Robout etc, halatado nang me peligroso ang pangyayaring AMBUSH!

  • Pluma Mana

    sus ningas kugon lang yan na kakasuhan sila…kapag nawala na yan sa headline, kalilimutan na yan at malalaman mo na lang isang araw na may isang “öplan” na naman ikinakasa si maratratan na aprobado ni ochoa…

    • patawad

      So true, di na rin ako naniniwala sa mga yan, lalo na dyan kay tabatsising Laylay deFive. Sabihan lang ni itlog na itago na lang yan, biglang titikom bibig niyan.

    • cowboys2

      Agree!! I bet you, mawawala ang Marantan na yan parang bula…same old story.

  • speaksoftlylove

    In addition, since the NBI is probing the angle of conspiracy, once it is established, there is no such thing as accessory to the crime. Under our criminal law conspiracy means that the degree of participation is – “the act of one is the act of all.”

    • diamond_digger

       It’s really different when comments come from intelligent persons who reads and listens to reports with with distinct incisiveness. Moreover, a person with at least a background of our existing laws and on criminal procedures talks, his ideas and thoughts would always stand out. Thank you, Spitfire. May you become a model and inspiration to others.

  • RomyLitz

    What I am afraid of is that if dozens or hundreds of policemen are like MArantan, a murderer in uniform, how long will the top brass take action to eliminate and dismiss these sclawags in uniforms?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/GTVNMZR22PGMS55WQPIJTYB4IY Jaime

      Well said.  I hope there is a lot of people that is afraid of the condition of our law in order.

  • WAJ

    Philippine Army Soldiers are not Law Enforcers and they should not be involve in any Police Operations.  

  • Vertumnus

    You don’t need to be a forensics expert to tell that the whole thing was a set up.  No one brings that much firepower just to arrest 12-13 men.  You bring that many armed police and soldiers to kill not to arrest.

    The PNP and the AFP is still riddled with corruption and killers.  It’s going to take President Aquino a very long time cleaning up the mess left over from the previous administrations.

  • $20722540

     lumilinaw na, na niratrat ni maratrat yong 13 katao

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GTVNMZR22PGMS55WQPIJTYB4IY Jaime

    Bautista is just like any other before him, a commander with no guts status quo is his game.  I feel sorry for you Philippines.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/36NJPIQO7EYFTMST6XUPNHF7TE VincentR

    The advent of professionals in government under PNoy now shows up in reportage like these, where erstwhile corrupt agencies (PNP, NBI, etc) of yesteryears can now be relied up to come up with relatively objective and untained findings. What a relief it is, that these agencies are able to help dispense justice to victims. Like in Europe and in the US, it does not matter who one is or what one has by way of power, you will get your due if you violate the law. That is what people need to see so they can endure their daily hardships, they do not need to be given everything at once provided they know that things are run well, they can wait for the right time.  May Filipinos sustain this improvement, for it is what will lift them out of their misery.

  • okayayonip

    slowly but its getting clear but hopefully the won’t stop the investigation until they’ve found and proven the real motive of these criminals in PNP uniform. God bless the family of the victims.

  • Commentator

    Bautista should have just shut his mouth and tell the media “no comment and I let NBI do its job”. He is already absolving his men with his remarks.

  • Garo Ungaro

    Role: Conspiracy/Accomplice/Coplan Amado
    Villaranta,Melad,Dumlao,Habitan.Aware of the Crime. Marantan and 15 policemen : execute the plan ( coplan Amado) de Leon,Abang,Accomplice to the crime: 25 military soldiers.Motive: Control of jueteng and related illegal activities in Calabarzon. Victims: Siman/Consigmino group (13).

  • 33Sambuang2

    marantan, mapupunta sa kulungan or kangkungan…. buti nga sa yo mamamatay tao kang hayup ka…..multuhin ka sana ng lahat ng pinatay mong tado ka

  • Htee

    Ok, General Bautista, we will think of something to charge you with, if you really want to stand by your soldiers. How about cheating in your PMA classes…by your statement yesterday, it is evidence that you didn’t learn much at PMA…therefore you must have cheated….

    Please SIR, give way to others who are much more deserving of that position.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/GTVNMZR22PGMS55WQPIJTYB4IY Jaime

      I like you.  Well said.

    • Loggnat

      Painfully obvious that there is a misconception on what the military’s job description is supposed to be. Also obvious is that the posters had no inkling that military discipline and customs obligates Gen. Bautista to stand behind and back his troops up 100% due to the fact that they are only suspects, they are so far considered innocent until proven otherwise. Gen. Bautista as an officer who demands and expects his orders to be followed by his subordinates, is also expected by his subordinates to back them up unwaveringly and until or unless they are proven guilty of some violation or such.

  • Isagani Gatmaitan

    Sir General, with all due respects: “Little talk, little mistake”, “No talk, no mistake”, Sir.

  • rickycruz

    a HUGE  Disappointment to Gen. BAutista…

    ru kiddin me ?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4R3GZTGML26TV2VGS6RVHP2THM Fred

    Madaldal din pala itong si Gen Bautista. Hindi pa tapos ang NBI investigation pero sya ay may conclusion na. His statement na “there is nothing to worry about because they (soldiers) did what they thought was right” was so ungeneral! Bakit at papaano ba sya na promote??? Grrr!!!

  • dani77777

    What is disheartening is that the people paid these policemen and soldiers to serve and protect them but only to intrude and violate their rights.

    Karumaldumal.

    • Loggnat

                  To serve and protect is the motto of the law enforcement/police while the Armed Forces swears to defend the Constitution and the Philippines against its enemies. These two entities are different and should be seen and utilized as such. The law enforcement/ police are suited and trained to apprehend criminals and bring them to face justice. The Armed Forces are trained to defend the country against its enemies specifically to destroy all enemies that threatens the Philippines. They are schooled in case of a firefight to react with an overwhelming force against its attackers which is how they reacted when bullets started flying in that police checkpoint. On the other hand, police/ law enforcement are as their motto conveys, ‘ To serve and protect ‘, they are trained for responding and investigating crimes and going after the criminals and putting them in jail to protect the public and their property. The military should never be used to do the task assigned to the police because they are not trained for it. Nor would the law enforcement/ police should be expected to do the military’s job. As for the AFP Chief Bautista declaring that he is all out behind his troops, anything less than that will be unacceptable in this early stage of the investigation when suspects are considered innocent until proven guilty. In the military where the officers expects their subordinates to follow orders, it is essential and indispensable that those that gives the orders to back their troops 100% until proven that they crossed the line and guilty of wrong doing. The problem is in the system, the military shouldn’t have been there in the first place.

      • Mang_Ben

        With all due respect, the motto of the PNP is: “With Honor and Justice, We Serve.”

        “To Protect and to Serve” is the motto of the Los Angeles Police Department and of the Los Angeles Police Academy.

        The author of the motto is Officer Joseph S. Dorobek.

        No offense.

        BTW, I like your comments.

  • joerizal

    Ano’ng report ang hinihintay ni De Lima eh nai-tsismis, este nai-report, na ng Inquirer yung laman ng imbestigasyon. So paano na yan? Nakapila sa likuran ng kaso ni Ampatuan yan…aabutin na naman ng 50 taon bago sila malitis.

  • eirons1043

    De Lima should issue a Watch List or request for Hold Departure Order  to all suspects in the Ambush pronto.  Maraming backer si Maratrat baka mag ala Reyes Bros. yan o Palparan na biglang nawala.

  • el_latigo

    Is this Gen. Emmanuel Bautista now the head of the Armed Forces of the Phils.? If he is, then heaven help us! A man of his position should be very objective in analyzing and expressing his opinions. His highly subjective biases reflect on the whole armed forces, whether he likes it or not, and this bodes ill for the country.   

  • Taiko_Kauna

    from the mouth of Bautista himself we cannot expect a reformed military – to serve & to protect their own seems to be his priority. 

    • tomcatters

      duh..he just stand to support and impose morality of his troops..he didn’t advocate those shootout..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/74DX67S5U6H557SPUXS5XZ6QJI Alisto Juan

      Tumpak, kasi kung gusto n’ya ng pagbabago, e di. . investigahan n’ya tapos tingnan yun mga moonlighting activitities ng mga sundalo para dile na masundan o matularan. 
      Gagawa siya ng polisiya na bawal sa sundalo ang maging escort dahil monthly paid yan ng governo kahit day off pa n’ya. Soldiers can not serve to master. . 

  • freeview

    Imagine, they can just do that tamper evidences, kaya pala they have the nerve to commit this kind of crime ever since

  • boybakal

    Good Job….NBI and De Lima.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002398216749 Jason Ladd

    Soldiers shouldn’t have been used in a clear cut police operation. The extent of corruption is alarming. This is an highly unacceptable operation. It’s murder and it’s simply an execution. Shame on to the PNP and the Armed Forces of the Philippines. It’s not justice…it’s pure murder!!!

  • regd

    The AFP will later proved that somebody from the first SUV committed suicide hence the first shot was from the inside. Plausible?

  • FernandoBusi

    Come to think of it why was Maratrat who already have a record of such tampering and rub-outs taken in by Ochoa’s commission in the first place? Is it because this guy has no sense of decency and law and is a perfect goon in uniform? Sabagay if I were out to muscle Jueteng lords of their turf I will probably get the baddest cop in town. 

    Buti na lang and mga ordinaryong sundalo eh hindi pa kasing sama ng kapulisan. May kunsensya pa hanngat walang tiwaling opisyal na nakabantay sa kanila.

  • regie

    kung ganon na operation to arrest vic siman, ang question was the operation to arrest siman covered with a valid warrant? kasi kung walang warrant maliwanag na operation to liquidate…kahit na me nagtip dyan gasino na lang na magsecure sila ng warrant of arrest kasi meron silang sufficient time to secure one.they are using this checkpoint  and coplan kuno. eh kung me probable cause ka, pinakalegal at madali eh yung kumuha ng warrant. eh kasi walang probable cause kaya ayun checkpoint na lang para mas madaling ijustify….DOJ at NBI maliwanag pa po sa sikat ng araw ang kabalbalan nila baka naman pong makalusot ang mga ito. sampolan niyo po para ang mga wlaanghiyang gagamit ng checkpoint sa kawlanghiyaan ay magdalawng isip po.

    • Mortz C. Ortigoza

      Ang exception Boss Ric sa search na may warrant is “Moving Vehicle”. Iyong time ng travel from Batangas to Quezon hindi na aabot iyan sa pag obtain ng Search Warrant sa Judge. Kaya mi warrantless Search tayo provided by law.

  • Philcruz

    The mafia gang who sprayed Santino Corleone with tommy guns couldn’t match the viciousness of this Quezon massacre. But I think the message was delivered.. if it was the intention of the law enforcers. A warning to jueteng lords and their cohorts.. “this could happen to you, next.”

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

       How bout Alfonso de Vera, and his 7 year old daughter?

      I bet they never realized it could happen to them, right?

      Maybe it could also happen to you and your family too? Not unless we stop it.

    • FernandoBusi

      Unfortunately this was just Jueteng vs Jueteng with government officials involved in both sides. 

  • nieron

    JUSTICE WILL SOON PREVAIL!

    The real Mastermind in this incident is Marantan, if not that he is one of the main tentacles of a broader “mafia-styled scheme” rub- out. All in the name of greediness for JUETENG MONEY. 

    It’s payback time from the innocent and not so innocent victims.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/74DX67S5U6H557SPUXS5XZ6QJI Alisto Juan

    Alam ko na yan, wala ng bago. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZBQABEZDMNJ4ZRMG6MEPYGYDPU FELICIANO

    First question: Where is the money supposedly carried by those in the vehicles. If the money is nowhere to be found, then it is very clear that they were killed because of money. 

    Second question: Why are they carrying huge amount of money at that point in time? This means that the money came from illegal means. I hope they can find answers to these two questions because if not, we all have a bad idea on where the money is right now.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/XJ6M3EEK5LGN77YOMKJHBCXF7Q jeronimo

      And why do they have a presidential sticker on one of the vehicles?

  • manong_edwin

    Here we are again, have we not heard of this kind of investigation, fact finding missions, charges in filed in courts…and then what?  Conviction is just but a wish and dream…perhaps the next thing we will know,  those involved in the Atimonan incident are promoted to higher ranks…just look at Maguindanao Massacre for one!

  • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

    @FELICIANO

    “Why are they carrying huge amount of money at that point in time?”

    Is that illegal?

    Would people who bring cash payroll to projects sites(min wage/labor such as construction,) be totally impossible or unreasonable?

    Would we say the same for people inside armoured vans, bringing a large amount of cash for various purposes, questionable?

    This is why we base accusation on facts, not assumptions.

  • gilbs72

    The AFP Chief stands by his troops even as official findings of the NBI differ.  Other than the President, when the CS supports murderous troups he puts the entire AFP under a cloud of doubt and strike fear in civilians where they operate.  The CS is supposed to ensure the soldiers not only to obey LAWFUL commands, but also to observe proper judgement and respect for human rights. Clearly, a calibrated response was possible to incapacitate and arrest the so-called “suspects” (given their extreme superiority in number, firepower and position).  Why does the CS AFP not see this?  Isn’t he supposed to be the top soldier–trained to understand these operational norms?  We should question his qualification then, to wear those stars.  I hope this isn’t the case, but we do not need–in fact, we fear–an AFP Chief who wishes to manage armed troops by popularity.  Tough decisions must be made and the people (their civilian superiors) will respect him more.  Each time you enter Cp. Aguinaldo, you see that reminder about human rights, for both soldiers and public to see.  What’s that all about???

  • apojay

    Time to make it mandatory for all “checkpoints”to be fitted with HD CCTV’s 24/7.  

    Tapes to be submitted for archive daily.

    Make non-compliance a crime.

    DILG you should have thought of this!

  • http://twitter.com/Olibo2 Olibo

    Gambling is addictive like heroin,
    Jueteng is evil, the death of the masters,
    The disaster of friendship and the fall of a president.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PXS7DDUUV5OJIXZASTB7ASNCME Graciano

    DEAR INQUIRER,

    WAG KYO MAGLABAS NG REPORT KUNG PURO GALING LANG SA SOURCE. ANYBODY COULD BE A SOURCE EVEN YOUR JANITORIAL CREW. NAME HIM / HER SO HE / SHE COULD STAND BY THE STATEMENTS. GINAGAWA NYONG SARSWELA ANG BALITA. PARA KAYONG C DE LIMA NA “HEARSAY IS CONSIDERED EVIDENCE”. MAGSARA NA KAYO ;)

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QW5EHYZZIESTNHSLVOX2763DUA dtszero_cool

       bakit meron bang report na walang source?

    • bagongpnoi

      it is the right of the witness, its for their own protection and i think its just fair for everybody. it is their duty to inform the public of the things they’ve heard, its us who needs to validate the news we read. peace

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/PXS7DDUUV5OJIXZASTB7ASNCME Graciano

        THEN THE SO CALLED “SOURCE” KUNO SHOULD GO TO THE COURT TO TESTIFY AND NOT TO THE MEDIA. 

  • wawangpenoy

    Noynoy, being the commander-in-chief, fire this fckng cheap stuff. Kasisimula lang palpak na. How are we going to expect something good from this general if this early, he’s already exhibiting so much bias and partiality. In fact, he is pre-empting the investigation. PALPAK at gunggung itong heneral na ito. Really made of Cheap Stuff.

    Anyway, how naive of me to even think he could be good considering he is a PMAyer.

  • Fulpol

    soldiers just follow orders…

    fire !!!!…. and they will fire…

    so the AFP Chief will rally behind them… in the first place, they just “borrowed” by the police..

    and they were “returned” with damage reputation…

  • Albert Einstien

    yung mga OPISYALES kasi ni pnoy ginagawa cya UTO-UTO…akala nila yung daily PROPAGANDA nila epektive..HINDI nila alam na yung SOBRANG KAHIRAPAN, taas ng LAHAT na biliin at KRIMINALIDAD  ay diretsong nararamdaman ng BITUKA, BULSA at seguridad ng mamamayan..personal experience nila ang mgaKALBARYO na dulot ng maling mga policy ng govt ni PNOY…HINDI kaya linlangin ng SURVEYS at daily PROPAGANDA..

    ito RESPETADO at INDEPENDENT GLOBAL LEGATUM PROSPERITY index RANKING..

    BUMAGSAK ang RP sa panahon ni PNOY…HINDI bayaran yan firm at base pa yan sa london….

    Dati…GMA time : number 61 ang RP

    NGAYON pag-upo ni PNOY: PABABA ng PABABA ang RP……lol

    2011 : number 66

    2012 : number 67… di po ba kayo NAHIHIYA ..nililinlang nyo ang bayan..

    sabi ni pnoy pangalawa tayo sa CHINA …pero ang TOTOO at REALIDAD..KULELAT si RP sa panahon n pnoy.

    hk # 18
    taiwan # 21
    singapore # 19
    malaysia # 45
    Vietnam # 53
    Thailand #56
    Indonesia # 63
    RP panahon ni pinoy NALAGLAG sa # 67….pabigat na nga NILILINLANG pa ang bansa sa sobrang propaganda ..grabe na to

    • lucidlynx

      Huh? Do you even know how to write? If you are to cite surveys or studies, provide the source and link where you got it. Other news contradict what you say here. What was the country’s ranking during GMA’s years? You don’t have that info, do you? 

      The Legatum group is European. Europe is in fact going thru hard times these days. They are already saying the worst is not over and new round of recession times will still come. On the other hand, top credit rating agencies, the one you should be checking out and not legatum, are all saying the Philippines is now investment grade. They are advising corporations to invest in the Philippines than in Europe.

      Besides, Legatum??? This is the first time I’ve heard of it. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BMBLRJHAFMH2Q5SLCNXQMVBNXM ramsor

        please Google it. just saw the website..Philippines was indeed ranked #61 in 2009, #64 in 2010, #66 in 2011, and #67 in 2012.

        The above will be a surprise to most including this poster who used to read that Philippines is doing well. Kabaligtaran pala..no wonder ordinary people on the street say that di nila nararamdaman ang pag unlad ng Pinas…mataas pa rin daw ang mga bilihin.? Lucilynx??

      • Albert Einstien

        are you from mars ?,,,my friend

        MARUNONG ka po ba BUMASA .ang liwanag…GMA time : number 61 ang RP

        NGAYON pag-upo ni PNOY: PABABA ng PABABA ang RP……lol

        2011 : number 66

        2012 : number 67…
        .

        this will be your second time to hear BAD NEWS este BAD PROPAGANDA ng pnoy macboys…

        NCSB service lang umangat ke pnoy..IBIG SABIHIN umalis YUN mga ofw AT migrante 12.5 million at nagpapadala ng $ para sa FC reserves at gdp growth ……walang KINALAMAN ang gobyerno sa GROWTH pero i-CREDIT GRAB nya…12.5 mllion na TUMATAKAS sa KAHIRAPAN at KAWALANG pag-asa sa panahon ni pnoy

        GDP growth:

        MARCOS 1973 : 9.2 HIGHEST GROWTH EVER

        ARROYO 2010 : 7.9 growth ( 2nd quarter )

        ARROYO 2010 : 7.3 growth ( 1st quarter )

        pnoy 2011 :3.7 growth
        pnoy 2012: : 7.1 growth ( 3rd quarter ) ,
        2012: 6.5 lang PALA after so much hype & propaganda…lol

        PURO PROPAGANDA…… OFW , MIGRANTS at BPO lang naman pala ang ang nagbigay ng growth hindi naman galing sa pag-noynoying ng gobyerno…NAKAKABIGAT pa nga…

        MALING MALI po mga PROPAGANDA nila.!….

        ang ARAW-ARAW na propaganda…si pnoy galing sa pinaka- MAGANDANG GDP GROWTH ng 2010 ni GMA na 7.3 ( 1st qtr ) 7.9 (2nd Qtr) …BIGLANG pinaBAGSAK ni pnoy ito ng 2011 sa 3.72..

        si fvr…umupo sya galing sa NEGATIVE GDP si cory.1991 .negative gdp ( – 0.58 ) at 1992 gdp 0.34

        si gma naman galing sa GDP ni erap na 2.89at GALING sa EDSA REBELLION 2001 at GLOBAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE ng 2007, 2008 at 2009..pero nag-POSITIVE GROWTH pa si GMA ..sabi nila MIRACLE ECONOMY….na kung saan me mga bansa pa nga na negative 20% ang gdp nila..kaya tinawag si GMA na WORLD ECONOMIC GENIUS……pero nakuha pa rin nya ang pinaka magandang average growth ng GDP …

        LET’S give CREDIT where CREDIT is DUE.!

      • Lifeisfull

        Legatum? Never heard of it! Been working here at a multilateral development bank for the last four years and subscription references were limited to S&P, Fitch, Moody’s and the Economist Intelligence Unit. Besides, what can you get from rankings? They are at best, relative. If you want to rate a sovereign, there are a whole lot of intrinsic, exogenous, and risk-mitigating factors that have to be considered. But I leave the discussion for that in another time.

        Rather than being a blabbermouth, we could form our opinion based on reliable information. Lucidlynx’s opinion here is perfectly well-placed :)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BMBLRJHAFMH2Q5SLCNXQMVBNXM ramsor

        OMG…you;re with a devt bank and yet you dont know how to verify simple or quick research thru the net?  The info from the said group was not custom made to paint a favorable outlook for a particular country.

      • Lifeisfull

        …which makes it more subjective! And I’m sorry if you got lost in translation. Most people call the name of the Supreme Being by faith but for some, they use it as a punchline. Last time I checked, this is not a showbiz article.

  • tra6Gpeche

    Since there is no capital punishment in the Philippines,
    these lawless element of the PNP should be sentenced to jail for life without
    parole and stripped of their government benefits. AFP Chief of Staff, Gen.
    Emmanuel Bautista, should be replaced by someone who has credibility and integrity.
    This will help make the tainted PNP organization trustworthy and respectable. Not
    doing anything will definitely result to more Philippine crimes and doubts on
    Mr. Aquino’s government.

  • Fulpol

    soldiers in “conspiracy” with the police team of Marantan and Dumlao?

    they were just “borrowed”.. and they just follow orders…. they were not the brain.. just the “action” men..

    but “action men” always the expendables… the shock absorbers of blunders…

    they were “fooled” by the police team led by Marantan? so they will better be “state witnesses”…

    • bagombong

       they also questions there leaders in that operations by asking who are this people, they are not NPA and there vehicles are pnpa plate no.why we need to shoot them, you should question them first or arrest them instead of shooting them without a valid reason…they should always questions operations they got involved especially in not an NPA operations, they were the countries protections against peoples enemy, this is where they trained not to shoot any police operation to be there as a back up is ok.. but only if the police needs them…so, its a conpiracy since the army leader is Marantan friend..so that’s it..

      • Fulpol

        soldiers questioning orders? wow… not good…

        soldiers questioning the motives? better… but how could you question the motive of your general or colonel? you can, that is different from questioning the order….

    • lucidlynx

      the army is not tasked to fight crime. the job of the army is to protect the state from external and internal forces that seek its downfall. and sometimes the army is asked assist in nation building and disaster recovery. but to maintain peace and order or fighting crime is not what they are here for.

      • Fulpol

        there was an agreement between PNP and AFP to share forces if needed…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/M3LQ4MUAU3Z36MIQGIGSOKBCQE Rosauro

    The Army Special Forces troops were there to help the cops who requested to join them. The soldiers acted in good faith for there is a MOA between the PNP and AFP that the latter, when requested, would provide support for police operations. Why nail the soldiers if the operation turned out to be illegitimate?

    I once read a US Army doctrine that said: “Don’t fight the enemy in equal terms”. This explains maybe why there was an excessive use of firepower by the soldiers in the Atimonan shootout.

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

       “Why nail the soldiers if the operation turned out to be illegitimate?”

      because they allowed themselves to be part of the ‘crime.’ An accessory to it.

      Of course complicated ito kasi they engaged without the protection of the rules of engagement. i.e. You do not shoot and KILL unarmed people, which apparently some of them were. You also do not shoot if you are not sure of your target.

      Army SF, ang alam ko conservation of fire. mga expert marksmen and sharp shooters, who can, on a position of advantage pick and choose their targets.  Ano ngangyari?  Bakit ambuscade ang nangyari (volume of fire, concentration of fire)?

      pumutok ng 2 ang kalaban. pinatay lahat. tapos, pinalagpas pa ang duplicity ng mga dirty cops when they saw the cops arranging the crime scene to look like a shoot out. 

      Dibale, siguro manslaughter ang kaso. pero baka goodbye pension. at dishonorable discharge.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NVBS2TMY6B7OGOA6474TYIQDJE Cristobel

       that’s true the tactical approach is -once you are engaged in a firefight with an opposing force you should meet that force with overwhelming firepower to end the engagement as soon as possible and thereby prevent further loss of life

  • LabkoPinas

    I agree that this incident was a rub-out of the competition and as such everyone involved should be prosecuted to serve as a lesson to them that firstly, soldiers and police should not take sides with parties involved in illegal activities secondly they should not kill anyone but all the persons involved in illegal activities including those that hired them. Bautista should be fired for defending the soldiers who where involved with illegal activities and shootings especially those that fired excessively.

    • Albert Einstien

      in defense of BAUTISTA …he just got appointed and incident happened before he took the helm..in mlitary discipline…soldiers obey superiors without question & superiors in return will defend for their actions…especially when the SOLDIERS were only requested as auxilliary force in a nick of time…i’m sure internally he is making a HOUSE CLEANING ALREADY……but he should allow soldiers to be   state witness/es…..just like what gen. purisima is doing…

      • parefrank

        Soldiers as “auxiliary killers”?

      • Albert Einstien

        why NOT …? that is their job description to kill enemies of the state…conspiracy  to commit crime is another issue…it needs evidence…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TNASVGXZ23VCJWV7KO7WPDIKKI George

      Bautista should be fired? wala na bang katapusan ang kabobohan mo, Bautista’s been appointed for less than a month!!!

      • LabkoPinas

        Ikaw ang bobo at tanga. Paano mo ibahin kung hindi nga didisciplinahin and mga tao nya na pumatay ng walang kadahilan at na prove na na involved sa conspiracy? Siguro pakitang tao lang ang gusto mo na reform at hindi genuine. Isa ka pa ngang tuta.

      • michael recabar

        Pinapakita lang ni Bautista na siya ay para sa mga ordinaryong sundalo. Whatever happened, it is the commander of the operation who is accountable to anything that will happen under his/her control. Kaya dapat managot si Marantan sa nangyari.

         This is the reality, our soldiers do things without even asking why. 

      • LabkoPinas

        We are all for our soldiers but when something is done that is beyond the law and when they allow themselves to be used by a scalawag officer then they have to be answerable. No one should be above the law. Not even the highest official of the land. An example has to be made so that we will not become a lawless country where no one follows the law.

    • ApoLapullapu

      The AFP was following a standard operating procedure.  The command came from Marantan.  The soldiers just obeyed.  Marantan must answer for the actions of the soldiers.  On the other hand, policemen being law enforcers, must answer for their individual acts.  The know the law – they should have stuck to the law.
      Soldiers are not trained to reason why.

      • parefrank

        No, no soldier is in duty to fire for killing at a standing car and not even knowing who is inside. If it had happened outside at a not populated place, maybe the victims would have been buried like the Ampatuan victims. Maximum sentence to all who participated.

      • don alto

        ANO KAMO??? 

        FYI ….

        COL. MARATRAT IS A POLICE OFFICER, NOTA  MILITARY. WHY SHD HE ANSWER FOR THE ACTION OF THE SOLDIERS AND NOT THE POLICE’S??

        ANG GULO MO NAMAN ….

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    kawawang mga pulis at sundalo..lagi ang nakakasuhan ay ang mga PO1 or PRIVATE sa army..pero ung matataas na ipisyal…mga generals or mga politicians, libre sa kaso…

    parehas nuon sa pagpatay kay ninoy, ung mastermind sobrang yaman na…ang nakulong, ung mga foot soldiers…

    kasi naman meron motto ANG MGA BOBO sa kanilang mga subordinates “OBEY FIRST BEFORE YOU COMPLAIN”…at the end, ung nag obey ang napaparusahan…

    • http://Yahoo.com/ Ragdeleafar

      “OBEY FIRST BEFORE YOU COMPLAIN”…at the end, ung nag obey ang napaparusahan…”. So the soldiers has the option to complain dahil sila ang mapaparusahan and SOP, why not complain, then complain & complain again it’s the rule???

      Better change the rule for checkpoint: “STOP, LOOK, LISTEN, READY AIM, WHAT YOU SEE WHAT YOU HEAR… THINK OVER (FIRE ONLY IF LIFE IS IN DANGER)”!

      “Our soldiers, they just do their job. As long as they did their job, there is nothing really to worry about because they did what they thought was right,” Bautista said in a press conference.” It’s not right to kill without knowing whom to kill with the simple command of “fire”! The fact that the vehicle is bearing a seal “Office of the President”!?

      With those line of thinking and reasoning there is great danger if these alleged trained soldiers in certain situation are in the vicinity of the area where suddenly a house started to burn and somebody in the group shouted has “Fire” all these rascal triger happy soldiers without thinking will indiscriminately fire their guns in the air  “OBEY FIRST BEFORE YOU COMPLAIN”.???

      • michael recabar

        with this, the one in command of these soldiers is the one accountable. That is what Bautista should mean.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        toinks…low gets…wat i am pointing is, kawawa naman ang mga FOOT soldiers natin, ung mga private at PO1, sila ung napaprusahan, pero ung mga nasa likod nila, sitting pretty sa pwesto…basahin mo ang balita…sabi sa balita, principal suspect ung mga nasa checkpoint, pero ung nag order are just ACCESSORY…so, sa penalty, MAS MABABA ANG PARUSAH KUNG ACCESSORY KA LANG…

  • joshua kings

    sec delima/NBI, wag ng tantanan si marantan…..at the least, he is guilty of obstruction of justice for refusing to be interrogated, to surrender his firearm and be physically examined…

  • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

    Article: “The source said the investigators learned from the soldiers that police officials tampered with evidence to make the incident look like a shootout.

    To do that, the source said, police officials used the firearms of some of Siman’s companions, fired them, then planted them next to the bodies of those men.”

    If the police in question can do that, they can also lie about statement indicating that the people in the SUV fired first, dba?

    In short, as their credibility is shattered, it would take a little more corroboration or proof before their statement is considered as factual.

  • Fulpol

    soldiers were not the leader of operation… it’s Marantan team..

    Marantan team shouted: fire… so the soldiers fired… that’s the order…

    should they questioned Marantan’s team shouting fire???? I don’t know what is the rule for that…

    ethical and legal judgment versus military obedience during an operation???? perhaps soldiers especially the foot soldiers were not trained to quickly judge an operation if it this pass the ethical and legal judgment…

    • parefrank

      Whatever is the rule, it can not beto fire at a closed car without to know who is inside. Whoever fired, he is not more than a coldblooded killer.

  • Mel

    Marantan’s favorite word “collateral damage” it seems everyone he kills in his operations are just collateral damage to him, not minding the life and families he destroys. 

  • ApoLapullapu

    Soldiers are not trained to reason why.  They are disciplined to obey orders “instinctive under all conditions.” Marantan is responsible. He must answer for the consequence of his command.

  • lucidlynx

    The fact is, these soldiers are so stupid to just follow orders from the police.

  • Magsasaka

    sabwatan ng mga branches ng mga sindikato sa gobyerno 

  • wakats

    A lot of legal maneuvers have been made.

    -Sec. de Lima finally convinced some soldiers to “open up” with assurance of gov’t protection
    -But some soldiers stood pat with their earlier pronouncement that the first shot was made by the     occupant(s) of the 1st vehicle to make it appear that it was a legitimate encounter
    -The “source said some police operatives on the scene used the firearms of Siman’s companions,     fired them, then planted them next to the bodies of those men” – contradicting the testimonies     of the soldiers and NBI’s reenactment that only one shot was fired first from the driver’s seat       of the 1st vehicle

    Whatever, the credibility of the military hinges on the soldiers’ testimonies but the public is skeptical due to inconsistencies of earlier press statements.

  • parefrank

    Let’s just hope that these killings will not go the same way than the Ampatuan case. Soon they could be released for “humanitarian reasons” esp. if they help at the election like they helped GMA. There is a very straight path.

  • ever green

    hindi nga?!!??!! 

  • Maitum

    Bautista wants to play hero to his men. They did their job by firing excessively to the victims? One has even finished one magazine of M14 rifle and reloaded for the second spraying. Is that really the soldier’s job? Has Pnoy made the correct decision in making this Bautista his chief of staff? It sends me kneejerks.

  • parefrank

    to ApoLapulapu

    No, no soldier is in duty to fire for killing at a standing car and not even knowing who is inside. If it had happened outside at a not populated place, maybe the victims would have been buried like the Ampatuan victims. Maximum sentence to all who participated.

    • ApoLapullapu

      The soldiers were there to augment the police as requested by Marantan.  By training and orientation, soldiers obey and execute commands of officers without question;  Marantan was in command and it was he who gave the orders.  He is responsible.  Soldiers are trained for combat – not law enforcement.  The have no training in law and criminal procedures like policemen.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AUHY7NAKYRSA2T24MJ5P7EAA6U junteddy m

    Bautista is already covering his men, what a shame..So the pnp also did what they taught is right??? So everybody should be absolved coz everybody did what they taught is right..Isang bobong chief of staff na nman, kawawang afp.

  • almycha

    lets wait for CBCP’s opinion regarding shootout or real encounter.  Mahilig naman pumasok sa problema ng gobyerno ang CBCP dahil karapatan daw nila ang manghimasok.

  • http://twitter.com/LokalBrownies vin reyes

    mukhang ang NBI ang maiiwan sa gitna..matikas pala inquirer dami nilang “sources” na nakukuha..malaya nilang naibabalita kaya kadalasan naiirita mga apektadong kinauukulan..pambihira sitwasyon na nangyayari ngayon sa paligid..ganito ba talaga kapag panahon ng election? daming katarantaduhang nangyayari..

  • Albert Einstien

    in reply to LUCIDLYNX..re:” legatum RANKING ”  bad news to pnoy…but it is REALITY & TRUTH..

    are you from mars ?,,,my friend

    MARUNONG ka po ba BUMASA .ang liwanag..

    .GMA time : number 61 ang RP

    NGAYON pag-upo ni PNOY: PABABA ng PABABA ang RP……lol

    PNOY 2011 : number 66

    PNOY 2012 : number 67…

    this will be your second time to hear BAD NEWS este BAD PROPAGANDA ng pnoy macboys…

    NCSB service lang umangat ke pnoy..IBIG SABIHIN umalis YUN mga ofw AT migrante 12.5 million at nagpapadala ng $ para sa FC reserves at gdp growth ……walang KINALAMAN ang gobyerno sa GROWTH pero i-CREDIT GRAB nya..BAGKUS dapat pa nga cya SISIHIN dahil sa EXODUS ….12.5 mllion na TUMATAKAS sa KAHIRAPAN at KAWALANG pag-asa sa panahon ni pnoy

    GDP growth:

    MARCOS 1973 : 9.2 HIGHEST GROWTH EVER

    ARROYO 2010 : 7.9 growth ( 2nd quarter ) ARROYO 2010 : 7.3 growth ( 1st quarter )

    pnoy 2011 :3.7 growth pnoy 2012: : 7.1 growth ( 3rd quarter ) , 2012: 6.5 lang PALA after so much hype & propaganda…lol

    PURO PROPAGANDA…… OFW , MIGRANTS at BPO lang naman pala ang ang nagbigay ng growth hindi naman galing sa pag-noynoying ng gobyerno…NAKAKABIGAT pa nga…MALING MALI po mga PROPAGANDA nila.!….ang ARAW-ARAW na propaganda…si pnoy galing sa pinaka- MAGANDANG GDP GROWTH ng 2010 ni GMA na 7.3 ( 1st qtr ) 7.9 (2nd Qtr) …BIGLANG pinaBAGSAK ni pnoy ito ng 2011 sa 3.72..

    si fvr…umupo sya galing sa NEGATIVE GDP si cory.1991 .negative gdp ( – 0.58 ) at 1992 gdp 0.34

    si gma naman galing sa GDP ni erap na 2.89at GALING sa EDSA REBELLION 2001 at GLOBAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE ng 2007, 2008 at 2009..pero nag-POSITIVE GROWTH pa si GMA ..sabi nila MIRACLE ECONOMY….na kung saan me mga bansa pa nga na negative 20% ang gdp nila..kaya tinawag si GMA na WORLD ECONOMIC GENIUS……pero nakuha pa rin nya ang pinaka magandang average growth ng GDP …

    LET’S give CREDIT where CREDIT is DUE.!

    The Great Recession.. the Long Recession or deppression ] or the global recession of 2009 is a marked global economic decline that began in December 2007 and took a particularly sharp downward turn in September 2008. The active phase of the crisis, which manifested as a liquidity crisis, can be dated from August 7, 2007 when BNP Paribas terminated withdrawals from three hedge funds citing “a complete evaporation of liquidity”…The bursting of the U.S. housing bubble, which peaked in 2006, caused the values of securities tied to U.S. real estate pricing to plummet, damaging financial institutions globally.[8][9] The global recession affected the entire world economy, with higher detriment in some countries than others. It is a major global recession characterized by various systemic imbalances and was sparked by the outbreak of the Financial crisis of 2007–2008. let’s give CREDIT where CREDIT IS due..!

    si GMA me LEGACY ..other than mga political persecutions sa kanya ni pnoy…

    BENHAM RISE new Philippine territory 250 km wide –GMA LEGACYDespite its proximity to the archipelago, the plateau was previously not included in the territory of the Philippine Islands. On 8 April 2009 ( GMA govt. filed the claim to UN now we owned it.. eventually our history & after the political vendettas ….legislature might rename the benham rise to GMA rise to give honor to its finder/claimant .. ), the Republic of the Philippines lodged a partial territorial waters claim with the United Nations Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf in relation to the continental shelf in the region of Benham Rise. The UN has officially approved the claim in April 2012. The Philippines may soon be able to provide its own energy through Benham Rise, an underwater ridge to the east of Luzon which is believed to have mineral and gas deposits. The Philippines claim over Benham Rise is “very relevant” because scientific surveys indicate minerals and natural gas in the area. Solidified methane was found during mapping activities and the “probability is very high” there are oil deposits. There may be more natural gas than oil, and is considered better because it is cleaner. Benham Rise, which is bigger than Luzon, Samar, and Leyte combined, is being claimed solely by the Philippines

    si PNOY at CORY ..LEGACY nila IPINAMIGAY nila sa BLOOD relatives nila na CHINA ang spratly at panatag territories….si NINOY naman IBINULGAR nya ang sekretong pagbawi ni MARCOS sa SABAH….!

    CORY ADMINISTRATION ALLOWED CHINA intrusion in 1987 to our Kagitingan Reef then .. they are NOW CLAIMING the whole SCS.The Geology and Mineral Resources Ministry of the People’s Republic of China (PRC) has estimated that the Spratly area holds oil and natural gas reserves of 17.7 billion tons (1.60 × 1010 kg), as compared to the 13 billion tons (1.17 × 1010 kg) held by Kuwait, placing it as the fourth largest reserve bed in the world. These large reserves assisted in intensifying the situation and propelled the territorial claims of the neighboring countries.In 1968, the Philippines stationed troops on three islands which had been claimed by the adventurer Tomas Cloma as part of Freedomland On 11 March 1976, the first major Philippine oil discovery occurred off the coast of Palawan, near the Spratly Islands territory. As of 2010, these oil fields accounted for fifteen percent of all petroleum consumed in the Philippines.The government has received a total of P228.45 billion from the Malampaya gas-to-power project off Palawan since the complex began producing natural gas commercially in 2002

    .OBSERVATION STATIONS & resource study experts February 1987, commissioned by the Chinese government, establishing five marine observation stations. China Nansha station is located in the “Kagitingan Reef” to the Filipino to china Fiery Cross Reef.In early February 1988, the China Construction forces launched the construction of NO.74 ocean observatory on”Kagitingan Reef” . To guarantee the security of the establishment of the station site from 18 January to 14 March 1988, the South China Sea Fleet entered the Spratly Islands.then AFTER china established structures in SPRATLY ….cory INSTEAD of PROTESTING & sending the NAVY….she choose to go to her relatives in CHINA……” When President Cory came to Hongjian Village in 1988 she planted an araucaria tree (a genus of coniferous evergreen) to commemorate her visit. She also lighted incense at the altar of the Ancestral Temple of the Xu (Co) Clan. She was quoted as having remarked “I am the President, but I am also the daughter of Hongjian Village” ( news item ) but VIETNAM protested fiercly while CORY WENT to CHINA and celebrated with her blood relatives at the time we are LOSING POSSESSION of our territories…..so RP now is in DILEMNA how can we KICK -OUT GIANT prc china in spratly…PNOY-TRILLANES secret deals with china is all in the news..after backdoor deals..china established govt on our islands in july 2012…NOW under PNOY again..e-passports of china now CLAIM our territory as their own..If only cory sent the AFP like what marcos did …CHINA now will not be claiming our territories…not only Cory-Pnoy tandem that we are losing territories in scs…..but EVEN RP’s MARCOS RECLAIM of SABAH which has potential to produce 1 million barrel of oil a day..was EXPOSED by NINOY AQUINO jr..( father of Pnoy ).. Ninoy is wel known to be friends of Malaysian leaders like tunku Ismail Ibrahim & Sultan Iskandar ……..(In fact ,ninoy is a friend to malaysia EVEN during marcos time …on his clandestine with fake passports ( not heroic in fact that is a crime on itself ) return to RP sought the help of malaysians…in august 1983 ( route from Boston, via Los Angeles to Singapore met Tunku Ibrahim Ismail of Johor, then they proceeded to Johor met with other Malaysian leaders & with Sultan Iskandar …( wikipedia).

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FUZFCTDRWIHEIRG43S6EGL626Y Ruel D

      hehehe………. magkano ba kuya????

      • Albert Einstien

        GRATIS…..LIBRE po para sa BAYAN….tinanong nya kasi kung marunong daw ako mag-sulat…kulang pa nga yan e…pwede ko pa cya gawan ng encyclopedia….lol

      • LBchild

        hindi pa rin matatabunan ng mga sinabi mo ang pandaraya ni gloria sa election. 

        ikaw ang magaling diba? ano ba dapat ang parusa kay gloria?

      • Albert Einstien

        kung totoo na nandaya sya …mamili ka po gusto mo ipako sa krus o bitay…wala problema sa akin basta ba SC ang magsabi..at least me due process….lol

      • magiting78

        Mas maganda economy ngaun kita mo ki GMA #61 ngaun #67 o di ba mas mataas ang 67 s 61 hhahaha lols…pareho lang cla…infairness to PGMA she was good pero hnd nya na kontrol mga alipores nya lalo n asawa’t anak nya…hehhehehe dapat pinasalvage nya muna c Mikey para nabyuda n sya gumanda p pinas…lolz

      • Albert Einstien

        oo nga no…je je

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BWW4DQ56M5S47UEC4C34OTQWYM Redivico

        ikaw na albert Einstein!!!

        napaka BIBO mong bata ka…

        Mabuhay ka iho…

      • ARIKUTIK

         Ano kaya ang naging itsura ng Pilipinas kung si Fernando Poe ang nanalo ? From plain screen hero to instant president ? Aba’y mas magaling pang mamahala ng gobyerno yong janitor sa school.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        iyan lang ba kaya mong itanong? di naman siguro nagpapabayad iyong tao sa nai post niya…LOL…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IGLQQ2TTZF3BAWUHUWLFWVPZDE Vladymir

      layo naman ng topic mo sa pinaguusapan dito.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/JL6J2DTAMYXZ2DPBU22TB6C6UI Junior

      Wala akong maintindihan…..UFO ka yata.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

      Naniniwala akong magaling nga si Ailing Gloria kasi naroon siya ngayon sa kanyang enchanted kingdom ng VMMC… At laging nakikipagusap sa mga abogado dahil sa sandamakmak na kinakaharap na kaso…

  • Your_King

    I think we all knew that this was way more than a conspiracy long before the NBI came to this conclusion. Conspiracy not only to silence but to cover-up and the cover-up most probably has the PAOCC involved too. This just shows how messed up and corrupt the system is in the Philippines. That is why it is shocking that Aquino’s main slogan is the fight against corruption yet corruption is just as bad as ever.

  • disqusted0fu

    We knew this all along. NBI should give us some information that we don’t know.  We are already on who is really behind this and if the PAOCC really approved the operation or not and on how to stop jueteng and who are the government officials involved and is the government really doing anything about it? Those are just a few questions that many want to know the answers to. No more hiding underneath the straight path slogan.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K7Z7MZMIW6CPT53GMOE3ITVFA4 Jose Corazon

    If I may ask, sir, what kind of job is assisting the police in “checkpoints” to ambush alleged gun for hire criminals? In addition, sir, may i ask if the killing is part of extra-judicial killing of not just suspected demonstrators or rebels but also suspected criminals?

  • joshua kings

    the murderers were raising campaign funds for their principals; these principals in high places  are their protectors; 
    now, who’s got the P100 million that the victim was bringing with him when they were rubbed-out?
    now, the present administration has all the powers and the time (a good 3 more years) to solve this heinous crime..as with the ampatuan massacre…
    the ball is in your court, mr. president…
    show the whole world that your daang matuwid program is not just lip-service.

  • doublecross

    tama….isumbong ko sa NPA yan.

    • magiting78

      NPA??? mga pinapatay ng NPA mga Civilian walang baril yung mga hnd nag bibigay sa kanila ng revolutionary tax…pag namasaker nila ituturo s militar….

  • amor tamayo

    Nakakatakot umuwi sa pinas, dina safety, kahit na mga ibang mga pulis mga criminal din,  lalo nang dumami masasamang loob ngayon, mga namumuno ang inutil mga bobooooo, d ako humahanga sa pamamalakad ni DILG SEC. ROXAS AT ANG SMILING FACE NA PURESIMA.

  • JusticeAtimonan

    “Our direction is unity of effort with all security forces to address security issues. Our soldiers, they just do their job. As long as they did their job, there is nothing really to worry about because they did what they thought was right,”
    *** Are you saying that tampering evidence is part of their job description and they thought that was right????

    “Later, it turned out that it was a police operation for the arrest of Victor “Vic” Siman, alleged operator of the numbers racket jueteng in Southern Luzon”
    *** Is “arrest” means kill alleged operator “Vic Siman” and whoever was with him?
    *** Police operation does not require warrant  and no due process?
    *** Alleged Jueteng Operator – which means just hearsay and no evidence require to arrest/kill?

    Bautista said the police’s notice of request for the Atimonan operation, made by the team of Supt. Hansel Marantan, was “under a tight time frame.”
    *** WHY????

    If it is true all because of Jueteng, jueteng, and jueteng… Nakalubog na ang Pinas sa kumunoy dahil sa JUETENG. Naghahangad ng isang salop ang pinoy, kaban, kaban ang nawawala… ang nakikinabang mga buhay na patay dahil wala ng kaluluwa!

  • Paliwaweng

     I wonder why the PNP keeps people who are cold-blooded murderer.
    To say that they do not know is pure bullshit!!

    Marantan, fed by the people clothed by the people and providing him a job, compensating him from taxpayers money has no qualms in shooting those who fed him.

    The father and daughter who is a balikbayan and was unmercifully peppered with bullets by this monster Marantan is revolting.

    The act of shooting a civilian and say later that it was a mistake was the common line of these hoodlums in uniforms. And to this day, these murderous maniacs are roaming free.

    He don his uniform to justify his murderous instinct and with the tacit knowledge and approval of the PNP top brass. 
    Include his officials as accessories to the crime in Atimonan. And to Marantans previous murders.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JL6J2DTAMYXZ2DPBU22TB6C6UI Junior

    Matagal ng ginagawa ng PNP(Used to be PC-INP)/AFP tampering of evidence hanggang ngayon…..short words Huli-Dap,Rubout,Silence the victim,Neutralize means eliminate….ang kasalanan ng mga nasa taas ,they tolerate it instead of getting them discharged or fired…..Pagbaba mo palang sa NAIA Kinukutungan kana.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NYEKTKZ7GSJNPRDKHTAZRPTFQE Moses

    This is now a call on the leadership of Purisima. He must give us concrete actions on how to improve the performance of  PNP and how to penalize those erring policemen. Sayang ang tax namin kung hindi kayo magtrabaho ng husto.

  • http://twitter.com/JoelDurgi1 Joel Marantan

     The media has done a good job, a very good job in creating a story that tickles peoples mind, a story that sells regardless of the truth. If half of the news they are selling are closer to reality then these half wit commentators here may have an idea of what they are saying and not getting hyped on something they have no clue at all!!!.

  • katabay1106

    The victims were murdered in cold blood and no amount of “just following orders” will save those soldiers and policemen from prison. I hope they restore the death penalty for heinous crimes like multiple murders and massacres.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4HMGNHGZ7JX3YVTXJQIGTDTCHI virgilio

    I do not know if this is Legal or acceptable to the concern, but my suggestion is after graduation from PNPA, the Graduates should be drafted to the military ( Phil. Army, Navy, Marine, or Air force) for some years as a compulsion to be a full pledge police officer, anyway most of the PNP pillars came from the PMA. I do believe this will instill more learnings to our PNP. Everyone wiill be an officer and Gentlemen.

    • ApoLapullapu

      By operation of law, policemen are civilians – not military.  The are there to enforce the law, to arrest offenders and not to kill.  They are issued firearms strictly to defend themselves in case of unlawful aggression and when there is reasonable necessity under the law to use them.  But still the ultimate responsibility of the policeman is to enforce the law and bring a criminal offender alive to the Court of Justice so that he will be forthcoming to answer for the commission of the offense.
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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

    Ako, okey lang yung ratratin ang mga protectors ng illegal gambling at guns for hire…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/YENFNHZJ527TMYYAHF32G7O2BE joe

      sana maratrat ka sa checkpoint, wag naman, sana makutongan ka sa checkpoint.

      • batangpaslit

        Joe, lessons learned:
        huwag kang sumali sa mga illegal na mga gawain
        kung pulis ikaw o sundalo, huwag kang mag sideline as gun for hire
        or
        as close-in bodyguard sa economic saboteurs

        either maratrat ka nang karibal mo sa Jueteng
        or
        madale ka sa legitimate joint police-military operations

    • batangpaslit

      ako rin…yan din position ko. destroy the economic saboteurs and the traitors wearing the uniforms of the police and soldiers

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YENFNHZJ527TMYYAHF32G7O2BE joe

    I sided with the soldiers but not their commander who fired into the air. 
    About time to overhaul police procedures and SOP.  Filipino people should be informed of their rights at checkpoints. 

    Pre-judicial killings are rampant in the Philippines.  You only get a ‘sorry’ note if you’re an innocent bystanders hit in the head with a bullet from the trigger happy, who cares about Bill of Rights Law my commander has connection up to the President.

    • Bayan Panona

      Wow. Comments from someone who thought have been in real mccoy. And SOP of checkpoints? There is no such thing as informing anyone’s rights unless that someone is about to be arrested. Read dude. Read. 

  • Mamang Pulis

    kasuhan nyo sila marantan—at ipakulong
    kasuhan nyo lahat ng tiwaling pulis—at ipakulong

    malamang babalik ang tiwala ng mamayan sa ‘mamang pulis’–walang sinisino.

    • Bayan Panona

      Kasuhan po agad? di pa naman tapos ang investigation ah. Kaya nga po may “due process” di ba?

      • Mamang Pulis

        kung sa pagkakaintindi mo na walang  ganoon —mas maganda ibigti na rin sila diba? tutal hustisya rin nman nila pinairal—

      • Bayan Panona

        Kung ganoon lang din po, unahin na natin ang mga convicted na mga kriminal pati na rin sila Ampatuan, isali na rin natin mga nagnanakaw nang dahil sa kahirapan. Buti pa nga po mga pulis na yan kahit papano nakapaglingkod sa bayan, eh ang mga kriminal at kawatang mahihirap po ba may nagawa para sa bayan?

      • Mamang Pulis

        ah sila ampatuan—wag muna ibigti at baka nga walang impiy3rno makalibre pa sila–bayaan mo muna sila mag dusa ng buhay.

        sino kamo ang mabuti na pulis na tinutukoy mo?? si marantan?

        nahihibang ka ba? kaya marumi ang tingin ng tao sa mamang pulis/sundalo dahil sa iilang gumagawa ng katiwalian….

      • Bayan Panona

        Tiwali? Pano nyo ho nasabi? May ebidensya po ba kayo? An educated comment is always supported by facts not by assumptions. 

      • Mamang Pulis

        ikaw ba may ebidensya–eh  kung meron tatanggapin o ba dito? o babanta ka ng legalese–sa korte na lang tayo magkita? ho ho ho—

  • IQLS_71

    mukhang nabigyan na ng tip si gen bautista para maprotekysunan ang mga sundalong sangkot sa operasyon which indirectly and mostly protect the hidden mastermind behind this…kung ako kay gen bautista…hindi muna ako magbibigay ng closing comment para di mapaghinalaan na ang pinakaleader ay posibleng kasama rin sa network ng mga kriminal…nakakatako na talaga dito sa Pilipinas…TSK..TSK…
    Yung mga potential na tetestigo o pwedeng umamin during investogation eh inilayo na sa crime scene… Akala ko pulis lang ang gumagawa nito…nakakalungkot na pati ang hukbong sandatahan ay isa rin sa mga katulad nila…

  • Whateverwhoever

    Bakit kaya nakasentro p rin ang media sa PNP at Military na parang hinuhusgahan na sila wala pa ang final report? Hindi kaya nabayaran na sila nung elected officials na nakalista s Coplan Armado na tumatanggap ng payola sa grupo ni Siman? Sino kaya ang mga yun? Isang Senador? Isang Governor?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RYBDHGW5VJSMAMBX4Z2ZJD5OGU bingbong

    “As long as they did their job, there is nothing really to worry about because they did what they thought was right”

    WTF man there’s a lot to worry about when 13 people die at a police checkpoint 

  • Deanmartinstyle

    KAsuhan at panagutin ang mga nagkasalang Pulis at sundalo pero huwag sanang itigil ang kumpanya laban s Jueting at droga, aba marami na ang praning sa Pilipinas dahil dito kasama sa talamak na paggamit nito at pagbebenta ng droga ay ang  mismong mga Pulis

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