Aquino seeks forgiveness for Celdran

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Carlos Celdran. INQUIRER FILE PHOTO

President Aquino believes the leadership of the Catholic Church should forgive activist tour guide Carlos Celdran but he was quick to point out he was not necessarily in favor of his rather unorthodox methods.

“Well, I may sympathize with Mr. Celdran’s position—perhaps the methodology during a Mass we don’t agree with it,” said Mr. Aquino in an ambush interview after he delivered a speech at the National Economic and Development Authority in Pasig City Tuesday.

Celdran was found guilty of offending religious feelings and was sentenced to up to a year in prison by a Manila Metropolitan Trial Court on Monday.

Dressed like the national hero Jose Rizal, Celdran had stood before the main altar of the Manila Cathedral during an ecumenical service last year and, yelling, raised a placard with the name “Damaso” on it—disrupting the service and earning the ire of the clergy and the faithful.

Damaso is the villain-priest in Rizal’s novel “Noli Me Tangere,” which depicted the abuses of the Spanish friars during the time the Philippines was a colony of Spain.

Asked if he had any thoughts about the possible implication of the court decision on the practice of the freedom of speech, Mr. Aquino replied: “Let’s look at all the details first. Again, I saw it (decision) in the papers. I haven’t had the occasion to read the decision. I’m not afforded (a copy of) decisions before they are promulgated. So we have to secure the copy (first).”

But Mr. Aquino pointed out that freedom of expression had its limits too.

“Let’s see if there are implications. Of course, there is a constitutional provision on freedom of speech, but our rights have limitations as to what we can say, and where we can say it,” he said.

The clergy, however, had long forgiven Celdran but the court has spoken and they could only respect its decision, Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines (CBCP) president and Cebu Archbishop Jose Palma said at a church forum in Intramuros, Manila, on Tuesday.

“We can only love and forgive but the decision of the court is its verdict on the matter … we just say amen to the decision,” said Palma.

Palma was asked his thoughts on the guilty verdict handed down by MTC Judge Juan Bermejo Jr. on Celdran for violation of  Article 133 of the Revised Penal Code, or offending religious feelings.

Asked if the CBCP would appeal to the court to let Celdran off the hook, Palma replied: “We respect the decision of the court. It’s not for me to oppose.”

He also could not say if the penalty meted out to Celdran was harsh since he had not read the decision.

“I don’t know yet because we just came out of the [plenary] session and I just saw it on TV. I just know the court has decided,” he said.

The CBCP had nothing to do with the case that was filed against Celdran. It was the Manila Cathedral, under the jurisdiction of the Archdiocese of Manila, that pursued the case.

Celdran had mounted his protest against the Church’s opposition to the reproductive health bill then pending in Congress.

The measure became law last December when it was signed by Mr. Aquino without fanfare to avoid exacerbating the rift between the administration and the Catholic Church over his support of the bill.

Originally posted: 4:59 pm | Tuesday, January 29th, 2013

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  • tiriring

    Pres. Noynoy:  No matter what you’ve said here against me, I forgive you….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4R3GZTGML26TV2VGS6RVHP2THM Fred

    Celdran may be forgiven, but he must still serve the sentence.

  • scorpio15

    Mas MASAHOL ka pa sa mga sinasabi mo Sugbuanon86. Parate mo nalang ina-apakan yang Utak mo.

  • prince_janus

    Celdran deserves the decision although he is forgiven.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQPOCGSITYMSD2UTYIN4TJP56U Rene

    nasan yung 20 plus na likes mo na package deal sa post mo? itodo mo na kaagad yung liked mo, hiya hiya ka pa, mamaya di yan maging most popular babawian ka ng binayad sa yo, ikaw din…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_T5EQG5T54JC6TQOOKJSCU6MQJQ Diego

    Are you on drugs?

  • Guest

    Aquino should defend his fellow homosexual Carlos Celdran. Kung hindi, uubusin sila ng simbahan.

    • tiriring

      Pres. Noynoy:  No matter what you’ve said here against me, I forgive you….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U62PHGMKO4RK7BLMC4ACA4EG5A EREC

    He he he he ……ano ba ito???? Mr. Celdran has no WRONG DOING MR. PRESIDENT…..he is just a representation of dissatisfied catholics like me for the INJUSTICE of DAMASO & ESKRIBAS OF THE PHILIPPINES…..mR. cELRDAN just chooses the RIGHT TIME & VENUE to express the feelings of others…. because the DAMASO & ESKRIBAS has no right & preveledge to be RESPECTED! Lets go back to history….during building of Cathedrals & bISHOPS pALACES…. HOW MANY PILIPINOS DIED DURING THAT CENTURIES? HOW MANY MINORS THAT ARE VICTIMS of ABUSES???? Yong mga bata ngayon siguro mapaniwala nila na sila ay mabuti…subalit yong mga bata nuon at matanda na ngayon at nagbabasa na ng Bagong Tipan at inaalam ang mga pang aapi ng mg DAMASO at ESKRIBAS sa ating bansa…..NO WAY NA MANIWALA PA!

    • lapasan

      You say you are a Catholic. Are you really? or just pretending to be one. No Catholic faithful will disrespect a church service like what Celdran did. You also write “.. he is just a representation of dissatisfied catholics like me for the INJUSTICE of DAMASO & ESKRIBAS OF THE PHILIPPINES…” Tell the other commenters here what specific injustice was done to you by the Catholic Church and the priest or religious leaders. It’s assuming and presumptuous for you to say that majority of the Catholics are dissatisfied with their church. Do you represent the opinion of the majority of the Catholics? I may agree that many Catholics are supportive of the RH law. But it does not follow that they are alienated with their church or their religious leaders. I think that most Catholics are always respectful of their church and their religious leaders although they may disagree on some social issues.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      wrong doing! anak ng tipaklong! isa ka pa!

    • $5699914

       What you are pushing is for anarchy to reign in society.
      And you are doing it by spreading half-lies and half-truths about the issue…..black propaganda ang tawag doon….

      Kung ayaw ninyo sa Katoliko, no problem. Hindi naman kayo pinipilit maniwala o sumang-ayon. Hindi rin kayo hinihikayat na maging katoliko.

      Pero yung bastusan na laban na ang gagawin ninyo at magsasabog kayo ng mga kasinungalingan, aba’y humanda rin kayo kung sasagutin kayo at haharapin ng mga magtatanggol sa katolisismo. Patas, lang, di ba?

      • observer1356

         tama… respeto lang dapat sa kahit anong paniniwala — katoliko, born-again, muslim, etc… paggalang sa isa’t-isa ang nararapat

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/AUPTS47VZP6O5O4ABVWTACXOQU Febien

        Tama laban mga katoliko! sobra na kayong naaapi! di kayang gawin ni Celdran yan sa ibang relihiyon kinakaya nya ang mga katoliko! Alam nya na kahit bastusin nya ay patatawarin sya! Its about time to show the people of the Philippines the power of the church! Majority rules!!! sugoooooddd!!!!

  • generalproblem

    hindi lang ang pari o simbahan ang binastos nya kundi ang lahat ng tao na nagsisimba. i suggest firing squad yang animal na yan ng di pamarisan tulad ng ginawa kay rizal total lagi naman syang nakasuot ng tulad nung suot ni rizal. sobra sobra na ang ginagawa nyan porket mabait ang simbahan.

    • ben

      Siguro ikaw ang re-incarnation ni Padre Damaso.

      • generalproblem

        ako nga

      • observer1356

        ok ka! HA HA HA HA HA (liked ko na yan)

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/F4ODCZSX7YKSNDWWAQ5YYE6DMU yahoo-F4ODCZSX7YKSNDWWAQ5YYE6DMU

       Tama! I-firing squad yan! But I think we have to remember that he who has no sin shall fire the first bullet!

      • generalproblem

        lahat tayo may kasalanan pero yang ugok na yan eh binastos ang community na nagsimba kaya firing squad na yan

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/F4ODCZSX7YKSNDWWAQ5YYE6DMU yahoo-F4ODCZSX7YKSNDWWAQ5YYE6DMU

         So we defend the Church and the Eucharist by killing people?

      • generalproblem

        yes dyan lang sa isang yan firing squad yan ng malaman nya kung sino talaga si damaso

      • tiriring

        Celdran: I forgive you, general…

      • observer1356

        “Killing people” – was it not what the CRUSADES did ages ago?

  • Pitbulldog

    Napaka-ipokrito ng hunghang na plastic na pangulong ito.  So you have the guts to ask the Church to forgive Celdran, engot. By the way,how many people have asked you before to be soft and to take it slow against your enemies, did you heed them?  Do you really understand what mercy is?  Hindi, dahil retarded ka.  Papogi ka na naman Mongo ka.  We know that the Church is much gentler than you and with or without you asking them, there is a better chance they would forgive that idiot later. 

    • tiriring

      Pres. Noynoy:  No matter what you’ve said here against me, I forgive you….

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        same feather flock together….to the rescue of Celdran!

      • tiriring

        Pres Noynoy: You are forgiven too, iho…

    • mrcrabdribble

      eh ikumpara mo naman yung ginawa ni Celdran sa mga sinasabi mong ‘enemies’ ni P-noy. hindi naman nandaya sa eleksyon, nanloko ng mamamayan o nagnakaw ng limpak limpak na salapi eto. OA mo ha. 

      • Pitbulldog

        Ano ba ang ikukumpara mo, aber?  Itong si Celdran, guilty as charged.  Itong mga kalaban ni P-noy, puro alegasyon lang at ni wala ngang tiyak na ebidensiya na ginawa nila ang mga akusasyong iyon.  In short, imahinasyon lang ng timang na pag-iisip ng idol mo.

  • PepingCo

    Has Mr Celdran acknowledged that what he did was wrong and asked forgiveness for it? As publicly he denounced the Catholic Church inside an a service at that, he then should publicly apologize and humbly admit his wrongdoing. Kung katoliko siya, mangumpisal muna siya. Kung hindi, he has no business doing what he did. Then we can clamor for his forgiveness.

  • Mattino2011

    Bigyan na lang penance 1 million times na bigkasin Forgive me sa church

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      hahaha….cge simulan mo! simulan mo sabi!

  • XY ZEE

    “Do unto others that you would want others to do unto you”

  • $5699914

    Forgiven, okay….but still he must serve time as per court punishment. (Ali Agca was forgiven by the Pope, but he remained in jail as per the law of the land prescribed)

    Anyway, Celdran is not repentant about his actions, so why do we offer generosity to someone who is not asking for it?

    • mrcrabdribble

      Didn’t he apologize?

      • $5699914

         Apology and repentance are two different things…

    • panhase

      Did not Jesus say love your neighbor as you love yourself?
      The neighbor is the one among us, it´s not the one we choose to be our neighbor. And Jesus did not say to love the neighbor only if he repents.

      • $5699914

         Yes, He did say those words (or to that effect).
        So what is your point then, concerning Celdran?

      • panhase

         Try to think for yourself, maybe you will reach a conclusion.

      • $5699914

        Really???
        Golly wow! Heavy!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/3SHGRXPJCAF4OTQ673ARMKMYGE ricky sanoria

        Love others including your enemies, yes! But forgiveness is a different thing. Forgiveness is only granted to a person (1) who asks for it, (2) had truly repented for his misdeeds, and (3) had done the appropriate and sufficient reparations for his sins. Celdran practically had not done any of these 3 basic requirements.

      • panhase

         Please be so kind to show where Jesus stated these are basic requirements.
        And you say forgiveness is a different thing from love, So you mean to say when you love a person you do not forgive? Love does not include forgiveness?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6EF5PUVD7WK3V3XLP2FYAQZ4O4 Jomjom

        babaw ng logic mo.

  • ed_nique

    Pope John Paul II forgave the man who shot him but the man still had to serve his penalty.

    i presume mr. celdran carefully thought out his actions and he knew that he should be responsible for it’s consequences. has he shown remorse? did he say he regretted doing it?

    the church may forgive him, the people present at the mass may forgive him, that is their right to do or not to do. who knows they might have already done so, it’s the christian way to do.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      mga bobo kasi. 

      tapos sakyan pa ng born again line of thinking, lalong naging tangingot!

      Forgive yes! Sins, he should PAY!

      • ed_nique

        read another article here that he apologized and was forgiven.

        some comments here are showing their bias. they conveniently forget where and at what time this dude did his “protest”.

  • http://twitter.com/kintoy Boardinggate101.com

    forgive, but keep him in jail. maybe the RH law will provide him with condoms while he’s in jail

  • magiting78

    He is already forgiven Mr. President…but still he violated the law of men…

    • mrcrabdribble

      So you’re saying, God forgave, but men in cloth should not? (The judge was a priest I heard.)

      • tiriring

        Really… then Celdran will forgive the judge/priest nalang e.

      • magiting78

        If you serve the sentence on crime you committed it doesn’t mean you haven’t forgiven…He still have to serve the sentence on the crime he committed other anyone of us commit crimes ask forgiveness..Ang kay Ceasar ay para ki Ceasar ang Para s Panginoon ay para sa Panginoon…let us not mix these two things…

      • INQ415

        judge and priest? conflict of interest?

  • Gilmore Santiago

    wag…mas masaya kung patuloy nilang supilin si ginoong celdran…mabuhay si padre damaso!

  • josesantos318

    Pnoy, the church will pardon celdran if you withdraw the RH law. But then let celdran make that decision. , I think he would rather go to jail and capitalize on it. He eventually becomes a martyr in the eyes of the majority of the Filipino people. The church better prepare for the backlash of this incident, which will become good copy and come out in the international press. The damaso’s issue will come out, how the spanish friars took advantage of their position and molested the filipino women thereby siring countless heirs. The “molesting” issue of the clergy will be revived, and a comparison of the clergy today and the friars before would reveal nothing has changed after 600 years of the church in the Philippines.
    I would suggest celdran forego the appeal and instead go to jail. Just think of the huge publicity this will generate. Celdran will become a famous man internationally.

    • tiriring

      It’s His plan, iho jose….
      Don’t go against it…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    Abnoy!

    Forgive yes! Sins, he should PAY!

    • observer1356

      YOU-LOL!

      It was a wise reaction of P-Noy to appeal to the Catholic religious leadership in a reconciliatory manner…

      If you are a Christian, then you should know that all sins have already been ‘paid’ for by our Savior and Lord… 
      Forgive? If God can forgive, the same should God’s representatives here on earth… Otherwise, they are not worthy of being servants of God.

      “Damaso” was a fictional character, but if the real characters in the Catholic Church behave like him in reality, then, by God.. they should be reminded of what awaits them after death…. Otherwise, “Damaso” will remain a fictional character that could be deemed as a reminder to them of what’s wrong in the eyes of man as it is in the eyes of God.

      • tiriring

        Agree, agree…
        Praise Him in you.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        what is with ecldran that the highest of the land makikialam sa isyu…

      • Jane Tan

        This was the opinion expressed by the President when asked, in an AMBUSH INTERVIEW Tuesday afternoon in Pasig City.
        A M B U S H  I N T E R V I E W

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        whether ambush or not…ANDAMING PROBLEMA ANG BANSA NA DAPAT TUUNAN NIYA NG PANSIN>>Heard him commenting on FOI???mas importante un

      • Jane Tan

        Was he asked on FOI? I believe the ambush interviewer asked about this issue. Magreklamo ka sa nag-interview kay Pnoy. Or better yet, if you want answers to FOI, go ask him yourself. Maghintay ka sa labas ng Malacanang tapos ambush interview mo siya tungkol sa FOI.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        simple man lang kahit walang ambush interview…TAG THE FOI AS URGENT!!!…un lang, kahit walang press…kahit walang magtatanong…KASI THAT WAS HIS BATTLECRY LAST 2010 ELECTION…PERO NASAAN NA????WALAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA……

        PANGAKONG NAPAKO…

        NGAUN MANGNGAKO NA NAMAN KAYO MGA YELLOW RIBBONS NA DAAN MATUWID NA MISMO FOI HINDI NINYO MAIPASA…

      • Jane Tan

        Lol ang nakakatuwa ay ang saya-saya ninyo na hinde nag-quorum tuwing RH Bill. Ngayon na may batas kayo na gustong ipasa tapos hinde nag-quorum, puro kayo reklamo.

        Pasensyahan mo na. Sinabi niyo kasi na okay lang hinde mag-quorum eh.

        Gusto ko din naman maipasa ang FOI, pero okay lang sa akin na maiwan ang decision sa mga matatamaan nito. Atleast kung hinde ito naipasa, alam na natin kung bakit.

        Wag mo na ibintang si Pnoy kung yung mga senator na ipinupuri ninyo ay ayaw din mag-quorum. Kagaya lang sa RH Bill, kahit maging urgent ito, mahirap parin sila mag-quorum.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        ung mga pro FOI ba ay anti RH???tanga mo naman, OO

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    Forgive yes! Sins, he should PAY!
    Ay nako! presidente pa naman! Toink!

    • tiriring

      Pres. Noynoy:  No matter what you’ve said here against me, I forgive you….

  • Genesis Amv’s

    Tama lang yan sira narin mga tutok ng ibang pari …. Mr. Celdran did a good job

    Church should be Separated from the  State!!!!!!!

  • Genesis Amv’s

    Tama naman im not against the catholic faith im a catholic myself….. but using the religion with politics should be separated …. i support RH LAW..

  • Kcirtap Odrobal

    feeling naman ng lider na ito eh powerful siya.ipokrito…trip na trip mo kalabanin simbahan eh wala ka pa ngang napapatunayang matinding nagawa para sa bayan .

    • tiriring

      Pres. Noynoy:  No matter what you’ve said here against me, I forgive you….

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      may tililing…

      as if, sa pakikipaglaban niya he makes himself popular…pabagsak na nga ang rating despite sa pinag bandera niyang economic gains…

      SWS says, 12% bumagsak ang rating niya…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQPOCGSITYMSD2UTYIN4TJP56U Rene

         dream on! maniwala ka sa sarili mong paniwala…

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        toinks..it is not a dream..it is a reality…ask the SWS

    • nes911

      Ang simbahang katoliko nga ang walang ginagawa sa ikabubuti ng taong bayan. Taga kuha lng ng abuloy at pajero.

  • RiverHorse

    i believe the philippine catholic hierarchy has already forgiven him. still, he broke the law and he should suffer the consequences. maganda nyan, ISUNOD NA IKULONG YUNG MGA CORRUPT na government officials and employees, pulis at militar.

    • teekaye2

       CHANGE THE LAW IT IS LUDICROUS

      • RiverHorse

        to what, something that suits narcissists and other crazies like you and celdran?  who’s ludicrous now?

      • teekaye2

        Your personal attack on me is without basis my only point is the Catholic Church should be treated the same as any other group and not have special laws covering them alone .

      • RiverHorse

        oh but it is. to say a law is ludicrous is enough basis.

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    SOBRANG abnoy talaga nito…DOUBLE standard at HYpocrite…

    sabi niya nuon kay GMA…”I forgive you but you should face justice”

    at ngaun, forgiven na po baga mr president si celdran ng cbcp…and the church is also asking justice….

    palibhasa parehas kayo bading

    • tiriring

      Pres. Noynoy:  No matter what you’ve said here against me, I forgive you….

    • Jane Tan

      Lol… says the person supporting the Church’s violation of separation between Church and State. Ok lang kung magkamali ang suporta mo pero kung yung kaaway mo magkamali, magagalit ka?

      FYI, I believe they should still punish Celdran. What he did was clearly against the law.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

    Pwede namang patawarin kahit makulong…  kasi kung papatawarin sya at hindi na sya makulong, baka pamarisan.   Kung lalabag pala ako ng batas, basta mag sorry na ako, ligtas na ako sa aking criminal liabilites!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z6R2QAY7UWNJMTCRTED3JZXPIA Joey

    maybe the Church should forgive him, but I understand if they don’t… maging mayabang kasi simula nang mailagay sa dyaryo ang picture at pangalan. kita niyo naman, parang tuwang-tuwa pang nakakulong!

  • nes911

    The catholic church should display its chtistian values. Forgive and forget should be its dictum. Hind dapat maging bengatibo sa mga kumokontra sa prinsipyo nila.

    • tiriring

      Are catholics, Christians?  I don’t think so….

      • ThudOthwacker

        We are the true living Christian church founded by Christ. Mathew 16:19

      • tiriring

        Are you? Really?
        Read further your Bible…. thud..
        You will discover the truths…

      • ThudOthwacker

        Catholic bible have seven more books than the protestant version. Why? Martin Luther took out 7 books that contradict his doctrine. He even tried to remove revelation. But was stop by other protestant leaders. Having said that, we have a better understanding of a true gospel.

        Jesus establish his kingdom of heaven on earth. And appoint St. Peter as head or Pope(BTW Pope means father in Greek). Mathew 16:18-19.

        The succession of popes too are biblical Acts 1:20. 

        A lot of Anglicans and Presbyterians parishioners and pastors are returning back to the “True Church”. Because they found out Luther and Calvin doctrines are fallible and unbiblical.

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    pati ba naman presidente nakisawsaw sa isyu…atupagin mo kaya ang trabaho, kaysa kakadepensa sa kapwa mo bading!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • tiriring

      Pres. Noynoy:  No matter what you’ve said here against me, I forgive you….

    • Jane Tan

      When the president doesn’t address issues, reklamo kayo. When he does, reklamo parin kayo?

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        he should address issue on national importance like FOI…hindi ung pang THE BUZZ or mga kabaklaan sa buhay ang pagugulan niya ng pansin…not unless, mahilig talaga siya sa mga kabaklaan girlaloo things…

      • Jane Tan

        Have someone interview him on the FOI then, or better yet, you can wait outside malacanang and ambush interview him on the FOI.

        I’ve checked the other newspapers and none of them have stated that Pnoy avoided questions concerning the FOI Bill. Because none of them asked him any questions concerning the FOI in the first place.

        May grudge ka lang sa kanya. Aminin mo na.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        noynoying nga…maghihintay muna na may tatanong bago sabihin na urgent or pabilisin na ang FOI…hahaha

        every week naman meron presscon, bat hindi niya un gawin to become part of the agenda…or at least ung tatlong doberman niya…

      • Jane Tan

        In the same respect that he only gave an answer concerning celdran when asked.

        The President can’t always take sides.

        Bakit, kung gusto mo gumawa ng bagong batas, ipapasa mo lang tapos siguradong sasagutin ito ng Pangulo natin? Try mo nga. Kung pinansin niya ang ginawa mong bagong batas, tsaka ka magreklamo dito.

        He runs a country.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        whatever he speaks becomes a policy…that is how important that office is…kaya BAWAL ang isang noynoying at mahilig sa tsismis na makaupo diyas sa pwesto…

  • beboergosum

    Ikulong na, tagal yata.  

  • brunogiordano

    Ayaw ngang mag avail ng campo ni Ceildran ng PROBATION at hindi sila intersado sa forgiveness ng CBCP.

    Tuloy ang away hanggang SC.

    Mas mahaba ang away mas lalong kasusuklaman ng tao ang mga DAMASO.

  • Victor Magallanes

    I thought all the while, the Catholic Church has already forgiven Celdran. Why is BS Aquino  meddling with a court decision?

    What good will our laws be when it will not be enforced? Celdran violated the Revised Penal Code and he must suffer the consequences. This is not about the RH bill anymore. This is not about the separation of the church and the state. This is about our laws being enforced. 

  • beboergosum

    Oh, it’s forgiveness you want, Mr. President.  Sure, why not?  But not so fast.  Hinay hinay lang. May kasalanan yan Celdran na yan.  Walk your talk, Mr. Noy, show an example of a good Christian act.  Start with the Marcoses.  Forgive them.  Forgive and forget.  Di ba sir?

    • tiriring

      Pres. Noynoy:  No matter what you’ve said here against me, I forgive you, bebo. That’s is more important.

    • Roberto Duran

      Sir, that’s the difference…PNoy is running a state, di po church yung pinatatakbo nya…know the difference…

      • beboergosum

        So, perhaps he should be attending to bigger issues, like, how the gains of the economy should trickle down to the 70 percent of the population instead of insinuating hatred against the Church. Gets mo?

      • Roberto Duran

        hatred against the church? was he insinuating that? get ur facts straight…i merely answered ur crappy example of the marcoses to be forgiven vis a vis celdran’s case…anyway thats ur opinion, i think forgiving is not in the catholic teachings…to enemies catholic church cannot forgive…for pedo priests…of course they will…before u put celdran to jail, unahin nyo muna mga manyak na pari na tumatanggap ng pajero…lol… hurting religious feelings…OA…sobra…

      • beboergosum

        trash…

  • ThudOthwacker

    Celdran should ask the congregation first. If he is entitle for forgiveness. It should be genuinely sincere about his true motives of the stunts he pulled. Is it conviction or he’s a paid hack to start a diverted topic BILLION$ away from the real agenda?

  • brunogiordano

    “Aquino: Church should forgive Celdran”

    Ikaw pangulo ng PILIPINAS hindi mapatawad ng mga OBISPO ng CBCP,

    Si CELDRAN pa.

    WISHFUL THINKING LANG IYAN!

  • gabbybal

    Wait lang kayo… The Church will eventually forgive him. Pnoy, cige nga. Do what you say by forgiving GMA & Marcos….

    • tiriring

      Pres. Noynoy:  No matter what you’ve said here against me, I forgive you Gabbs.  That is more important.

    • Roberto Duran

      Sir, for sure me utak ang presidente! Alam nya na magkaiba ang level and type of act na ginawa…wag nyo naman po xa igaya sa size ng utak mo! lagyan mo din ng sense ang argument mo…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FKE56ZWNI2XKEVVLZQGRWG7WBI BURADOR—Phil. Voice

    CELDRAN is NOT a CRIMINAL—–It is NOT a CRIME to PROTEST against ANYBODY in Philippines———There is a FREEDOM of EXPRESSION in the country—

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

      at sino bang nagsabi na crime ang mag protest against anybody, pero ilagay sa tamang lugar at oars… e kung akoy pumasok na lamang sa bahay at mag sisigaw ng aking advocacy ko dahil may freedom of expression, ok lang ba sayo!!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FKE56ZWNI2XKEVVLZQGRWG7WBI BURADOR—Phil. Voice

        hindi PO bahay ang simbahan——-Ang COMPARISON nyo PO ay DI UGMA——Si CELDRAN po ay NAG PROTESTA sa INIT ng DEBATE sa RH bill——GINAWA po iyan si CELDRAN para PA-IGTINGIN ang SUPPORTA nya sa RH bill——WALA PONG kabastusan DOON—

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

        Alalahanin mo, may mga ordinaryong tao dun na nagdadasal, at hindi lang ang mga Damasong kinakalaban ni Celdran.  Ang mga ordinaryong taong eto ay may karapatang magdasal ng mataimtim at tahimik.  Inuulit ko, karapatan nila yun.  Tama lang bang baliwalain ang karapatan ng mga taong eto dahil lang may ipinaglalaban si Celdran.  Ang pagbaliwala ba sa karapatan ng  mga ordinaryong taong eto ay hindi kabastusan?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FKE56ZWNI2XKEVVLZQGRWG7WBI BURADOR—Phil. Voice

        HUWAG nyo PONG GAMITIN yong mga NAG-DADASAL sa SIMBAHAN, dahil BAKA po iyong NAG-DADASAL ay NANALANGEN na IPASA na PO SANA ang RH bill—–
        KAKAMPI po IYON ni CELDRAN

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q55QQJZTH3F5IF26RUZ44CYKIU Sky Blue

        Puno na ang baso at hindi na malagyan ng tubig… oh e anu ngayon kung sakali mng kakampi sila ni Celdran, karapatan pa rin nila mgdasal ng tahimik…

        at yung sinabi mo pa sa itaas na maling comparison yung  bahay at simbahan? Aigooo…

        common sense lng yun eh, kahit saan ka mn, simbahan, bahay, library, school, PUJ… my mga bagay na dapat mung gawin at hindi dapat.. walang magsasabi sayo nun kasi COMMON SENSE..

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FKE56ZWNI2XKEVVLZQGRWG7WBI BURADOR—Phil. Voice

        HINDI PO COMMON SENSE ang PINAG-UUSAPAN–kundi KUNG LEGAL ba o HINDI—-

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q55QQJZTH3F5IF26RUZ44CYKIU Sky Blue

         eh tama nga sinabi ko na hindi na malagyan ng tubig yung baso.

        Legality lng pala eh, di sinagot ka na ni Bamm Gabriana sa itaas. Eh ayaw mo yata maniwala. tapos sinabi ko na lng common sense eh, ayaw mo din.My karapatan si Celdran mgpahayag? OoMy karapatan yung mga tao magdasal ng tahimik? OoAng simbahan ba ay lugar dasalan? OPO

    • Bamm Gabriana

      Every freedom is limited by responsibility to respect the freedoms of others. That’s why the law specifies in what occasions the freedom of speech is superseded by other people’s freedoms. Clearly Mr. Celdran broke a law here. It is dangerous when people like you think that it is ok to break the laws if we don’t agree with them. For a democracy to succeed we must respect the law and the processes we put in place to implement or change them.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FKE56ZWNI2XKEVVLZQGRWG7WBI BURADOR—Phil. Voice

        HINDI PO naka-saad sa BATAS na FREEDOM of EXPRESSION with RESPOSIBILITIES—–Ang FREEDOM of EXPRESSION ay ang MAMAYAN ang mag-di-DECIDE, pero HINDI po yan CRIME—

      • Bamm Gabriana

        Yes it is. He violated Article 133 of the Revised Penal Code. Just because you disagree with the law doesn’t mean the government has an obligation to change it in accordance to your legal opinion.

        And yes, Freedom of Expression is not absolute. For example, I as a Catholic cannot just barge into a Muslim mosque during the holy celebration of a hari raya and shouting “Terrorist” and carrying banners saying “Bin Laden”. If I do that, then I expect to get jailed in violation of the same provision I mentioned above. And if I do, then it would be foolish for me to reason that what I did was just freedom of expression.

        A healthy democracy is not one where people can do anything they please and feel like doing. That is called anarchy. Rather, a healthy democracy is one where people respect each other’s feelings, ideas, opinions, and freedoms.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/4FNXZ7TOB7WLKRJHWN2GHH5JZ4 cita

        your mother is a whore. like celdran’s mother

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FKE56ZWNI2XKEVVLZQGRWG7WBI BURADOR—Phil. Voice

        If you WANT to RESPECT the law—RESPECT CELDRAN—

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/4FNXZ7TOB7WLKRJHWN2GHH5JZ4 cita

        respect celdran whose mother is whore.. same with your mother

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

      sige subukan mo tignan natin mangyari sayo, wag maging mangmang alamin ang batas

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4FNXZ7TOB7WLKRJHWN2GHH5JZ4 cita

      her mother is a whore

    • imongredneck

      Dude, if you walk in a movie theater doing a Celdran act, and I’m focused at what I’m there for, I’ll make sure you leave the place black and blue. Good thing he was in a place of worship.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FKE56ZWNI2XKEVVLZQGRWG7WBI BURADOR—Phil. Voice

        GANYAN PO ka-AGRESSIBO ang mga DAMASSO—–

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

    E pano kung yung mga corrupt no politicians ang magsabi:  Ako ay nagpakasasa sa pera ng bayan, sorry po at patawarin nyo na lang ako?

    QUITS NA LANG BA YAN?

    my point is:  forgiveness is not to be equated with  sparing one from the consequences of any violation of the law of the country!

    • tiriring

      Admitting one’s sin is close to repentance…..

    • Roberto Duran

      ah, sir…pwde po taasan po natin ang level ng discussion? medyo super kalye na kasi… the issue here is the act: di xa nagnakaw sir, di xa pumatay, nabasa nyo po ba ang balita? so yung example nyo po ay walang saysay…magbasa po kayo…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

        If you want a higher lever of discussion:

        I agree that Celdran did not steal, kill as you mentioned, but the fact remains that he violated a law, and he should be held responsible for that violation.  Otherwise, we will set a double stand.  Yung dapat lang bang ikulong yung may nagawang mabibigat na crimen katulad ng pagnanakaw at pagpatay, peru yung mga petty violations of the law, palusutin na lang.  

        Kung mayron mang mali sa batas na nilabag ni Celdran, e di baguhin o alisin na ang batas na yan, per hangang andyan pa ang batas na iyan, ay dapat nating igalang at kung mayron mang lumabag nya ay dapat papanagutin sa batas!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        labang sa batas dapat makulong kahit hindi nag nakaw lumabag pa din sa batas ganun ganun nalang ba yun, dapat panagutan. porke ba mayaman si Celdran hindi na dapat makulong 

  • Jimbox88

    I support Mr Celdran, Church should go away from politics!

    But his way is wrong, he should apologize not to the “Damasos” but to the catholics!

  • just_anotherperson

    Justice delayed is justice denied.  Start serving time!

  • tiriring

    There was no Justice when they nailed our Savior to the cross…
    But all of them were forgiven.. absolutely forgiven…..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

      E kung ganun ang gusto mo e palabasin na lang ang lahat na nakakulong.  Pwede naman na patawarin kahit nakakulong a

      • tiriring

        Pres. Noynoy:  No matter what you’ve said ignorantly here, I forgive you….

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

        Mabuti naman kung ganun hehehe

  • JaePablo

    Ipalibing mo muna ng maayos si Marcos bago ka mag gaganyan… 

  • just_anotherperson

    “Follow the Pope” daw.  Sabi ng mga hindi sumusunod sa Santo Papa.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5UOZM4PWIDKO7G64HL3PPMXUTM Constantine

    Yap, makadiyos naman ang mga pari e. Di ba ang sabi ni Lord, to forgive is divine? So patawarin na yan si Celdran, hindi naman uulit na yan!

  • disqus_EWrSdjV1nv

    INUTIL NA RETARDADO. SABAGAY… TAMA SIYA.

    PINATAWAD NA NYA SI DANDING NUNG PINAPATAY ANG TATAY NYA. PERO DNYA MAPAPATAWAD ANG MGA MARCOS KASI WALA NAMAN SILANG KASALANAN KINA AQUINO EH. PERO KOMUNISTA ANG MGA SINUPORTAHAN NG MGA AQUINO NOON…

    HMM… MALABO TALAGO TO.

    • tiriring

      Pres. Noynoy:  No matter what you’ve said here against me, I forgive you….

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/MESKVVF473U4YSVN343XOT2XLE kram

      Ha ha ha…Naamoy mo din kung sino talaga ang nagpapatay sa Tatay ni pnoy.. alam yan ni Cory after the investigation pero di nya pi nus thru para manatiling ang galit ng tao sa mga Marcoses…..Lalabas din ang totoo in future…..Malapit na….Sabi nga ni cory…the truth will set us free!…..

  • virgo57

    Pinakita ng CBCP hierarchy ang pagka hipokrito at balatsibuyas sa ginawa nila kay Celdran. Ilan ba ang pinaanakan,minomolestya at kinurakot sa mga baklang pari at obispo? Ang pagiging paki alamiro sa estado at patronage politics ng mga balbahutog na Ito ay dapat din sila ikulong.

  • Roberto Duran

    hahaha, funny..its now the people outside the church teaching them what a true christian should do and reminding them of the love of the father…apparently the church never had this in practice…lol… very funny indeed… parang ang taong bayan pa ang holy ngayon :) 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4FNXZ7TOB7WLKRJHWN2GHH5JZ4 cita

      oh! your mother is whore. tingin mo holy ka?

      • Roberto Duran

        wow. what a mouth…stinky…ganyan yata tinuro sa iyo ng catholic church… no wonder…

  • Pilosopong_Ompong

    Ayos talaga logic mo Pnoy!…ikaw nga di mo mapatawad  mga Arroyo!

    For sure, napatawad na sya ng mga Bishop….pero dapat pa rin syang magdusa sandali sa kulungan at ng medyo ‘tumuwid’ ang asal nya

    • tiriring

      Pres. Noynoy: No matter what you’ve said here against me, I forgive you….

  • adriel0104

    and totoo nyan naghahanap lang talaga ang baklitang celdran para makapasok sa kulungan.Narinig kasi nya na masarap daw ang buhay sa isang bakla sa loob.Sino ba naman bakla na hindi magugustuhan ang kulungan araw araw may pumasok sa puwit nya.Magsasawa sya doon sa daming TT..kahit patawarin yan papasok pa rin yan..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

    For those who are in favor of  freeing  Celdran  for the sake of forgiveness,  should we apply the same thing to Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, corrupt senators and congressmen, and to other corrupt politicians?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS SALOT SA PILIPINAS JESUITS PUT CELDRAN IN JAIL NAG SASABI LANG NG 22O SI CELDRAN  CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO KUNG MAG SINUNGALING WAGAS KATOLIBAN PARASITE CHURCH!! MABUHAY KA CELDRAN TUNAY KA PILIPINO!! OBISPO GUS2 MAG PARAMI NG BATANG HUBO SA KALYE DYABLO!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

      mga bading na katulad mo peste sa mundo tama si Hitler dapat ubusin mga bading

      • scorpio15

        Kasama ka na dyan Sargo.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        ikaw lang bading! kadiri kayo! may Aids! ubusin na mga salot na bading na tulad mo!!! salot 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/K2MTUZVULUGNOUT4ZDXYQQNXD4 win s

      pare, ang puso mo… awas awas sa galit ah… lagi ka ng ganyan… lagi kang SOBRANG apektado… gun ban na, yang puso mo daig pa ang AK-47 kung bumuga… pare d mo binibigyang halaga ang kalusugan mo sa ginagawa mong yan… paalala lang pare… 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

    For those who are in favor of  freeing  Celdran  for the sake of forgiveness,  should we apply the same thing to Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, corrupt senators and congressmen, and to other corrupt politicians?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

    Ang tanong; Nanghingi ba ng kapatawaran? Christ taught; if the offender is unrepentant, treat him like a heathen.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

    ikulong na yang bading na yan! hahaha para ma rape!!!! ang taba taba 

    • dxdaistar

       oo nga, dapat ikulong sa Saudi jail…hahaha.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

    Penoy bobo mo! anung patawad patawad pag wala ka na sa pwesto ikaw naman makukulong sa mga pinagagawa mong kabulastugan matakot kana kalbo ka! makukulong ka din ihanda mo na ang wheel chair mo ilang taon na lang wala ka na sa pwesto 

    • scorpio15

      Buti ka pa Sargo Napa GALING mo. Bat hanggang yan lang ang na-isulat mo na WALANG KWENTA.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        mas wala kang kwenta! bading  salot kayo sa lipunan 

    • Ari Putan

      huwag naman magpintas masyado sa presidente natin…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

    ikulong na yang bading na yan! hahaha salot sa mundo mga bading!!! 

  • kilabot

    noykapon the preacher. 
    the other side of abnoying; 
    let celdran take refuge in malacañang where he will feel at home.

    • tiriring

      Pres. Noynoy: No matter what you’ve said here against me, I forgive you….

  • sigena

    celdran binyaran ni pnoy

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/MESKVVF473U4YSVN343XOT2XLE kram

      Pareho silang bading kc! he e he

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CARLOS CELDRAN IS A HERO!! HIS LIKE DR JOSE RIZAL NAG SASABI LANG SIYA NG 22O BAKIT KAILANGAN PARUSAHAN KA NI JESUITS! AT ANG MGA OBISPO DAMASO SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

      bading ka! salot sa lipunan, HIV positive kadiri!!! 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q55QQJZTH3F5IF26RUZ44CYKIU Sky Blue

       Si Jose Rizal nagsabi ng totoo sa aklat at sa SIBILISADONG pamamaraan, yung ginagawa ng my mga PINAG-ARALAN at RESPETO, yun si Rizal… hindi siya pumunta sa simbahan at sumigaw habang my mga ngdarasal. Si Celdran e???

      At huwag mong idahilan ung mga pedophile priest, may pa DAMASO DAMASO ka pa jan,  ano an eye for an eye na lng??? Patanggal na lng yung batas pag ganun

    • warpiglets

      JOSE RIZAL IS NOT A GAY.. BU CELDRAN IS A GAY… KUHA MO?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/4FNXZ7TOB7WLKRJHWN2GHH5JZ4 cita

        Celdran is not gay. his mother is a whore

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4FNXZ7TOB7WLKRJHWN2GHH5JZ4 cita

      oh! kill pnoy and you will be a hero

    • imongredneck

      Celdran is no Jose Rizal, or he should face the musket.

  • regd

    I challenge Celdran to dressed as muhammad holding a sign bearing “fake prophet” and do that inside a mosque let’s see what happens! This doesn’t violate Article 133 right?

    • dxdaistar

       he will immediately sentenced to … you know! You just cannot insult a religion! Respect it!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/MESKVVF473U4YSVN343XOT2XLE kram

      He will be hanged immediately. And the worst to happen is, this will affect to his family as blood line of person na umalipusta sa prophet nile. Their family will be hanged too…

    • http://rltjs.wordpress.com/ Rod

      Wrong. Article 133 applies to all. It does not specify any religion. Puede ka rin akusa ng Muslim sa artikulo na iyan.

      • regd

        Bingo! Mine wasn’t a question, it was a challenge to the intellect.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K3AUOVX5SXH4QSBROS76XUY3LE pizza ria

    Hoy Penoy, yung nanay mo kinamatayan ang hindi pagpapatawad sa mga marcos, madasalin pa siya kuno.  You do not have the moral ascendency to preach forgiveness because you do not have it in your family.

    • tiriring

      Pres. Noynoy: No matter what you’ve said here against me, I forgive you….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

    Lumabag sa batas dapat makulong! Kung ordinaryong tao gumawa kulong agad. si Celdran may kaya dapat ganun ba pag may kaya hindi na dapat makulong??? anung klaseng bansa ang Pilipinas? banana republic. walang kwenta! ikulong nayang bading na yan. pantay pantay dapat ang trato. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FQQPZLNOMD2EBFTHSWOP6QGZWY Marshall

    Dapat bigyan din ng presidential pardon si Celdran..

    Kung si Erap napakabigat ng kaso at hatol sa ginawa nyang pandarambong  agad binigyan ng 

    pardon ni Pandakekok..

    Walang ginawang krimen si Celdran dapat itong mga hinayupak na pari at obispo ang itapon sa 

    karsel sa ginagawa nilang pakikialam sa politika…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

      Husgado ka ba pano mo nalaman na walang ginawang Krimen? napatunayan na nga na labag sa batas ang ginawa, dapat makulong yang bading na yan! kung ayaw mo makulong si bading bakit ayaw mong sumama sa kulungan! 

      • http://rltjs.wordpress.com/ Rod

        one year max kung suplado, 2 buwan kung asal mabuti.

      • Observer_din

        sa 2 months na yun, malamang lalong sisikat si Celdran, at baka lalong maging sakit ng ulo ng mga pari.. abangan ninyo paglabas nyan.. lalo kayong iinisin nyan… hehehhee

    • http://rltjs.wordpress.com/ Rod

      Sa tingin ko puede sabihin ni P-noy na wag na ibilango ng 2 buwan ang taong iyan. Puede nga etsapwera ang parusang bitay. :-)

    • Blue01

      Naniniwa kang walang ginawang mali, eh bakit ayaw mong gayahin para mamalam mo kung meron o wala.

      Kung sa mosque ng Muslim nya ginawa yun, ewan ko na lang, kung umabot pa sya sa korte.

      Simple lang

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K3AUOVX5SXH4QSBROS76XUY3LE pizza ria

    Hmmm, Celdran or Selda is being treated by Noynoying like his cabinet members.  I can smell something fishy here, bayaran ba ni Noynoying itong si Celdran or Selda?  Next we read, Noynoying paid for Celdran or Selda’s bail.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

    Payo ko sayo Celdran “don’t drop the soap!” hahahaha 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FQQPZLNOMD2EBFTHSWOP6QGZWY Marshall

    x

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

      bading ka! tatay mo bading naMarshallo ang waput mo ng tatay mo! hahahaha 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

      i nedit urong ang b! duwag 

  • YamiIsland

    Yeah good idea, why not forgive the Marcos’s by letting them join your political dynasty?…Easy to say, but hard to do right? Better do what you ought to do, stop meddling the courts decision.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AFDQQH2M3OD6ZGBJNJ34UZHIV4 Enrico

    Ikulong na yan para di gayahin…..Kung patatawarin at di ikukulong, dadami yang mga nambabastos sa mga simbahan…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K3AUOVX5SXH4QSBROS76XUY3LE pizza ria

    Noynoying and CC are both singles.  Match ba?  Pareho pang oklabs.

    • panhase

       Like the priests and bishops, they are also single diba? And what about the Pope, is he married?

    • Observer_din

      yari ka ke panhase(sa baba) sir, bumalik ang logic mo sa iyo, di lumalabas nyan magmula ke PAPA ,pati lahat ng obispo at pari natin eh mga BAKLITA? hay kaya pala daming me kaso ng panghahalay ng mga boys.. mukhang me point ka, lahat nga cguro ng singles mga bading.. hehehehe

  • http://rltjs.wordpress.com/ Rod

    Seriously, can the Church tell Philippine judiciary to revert its decision? Do courts have power to grant clemency?

  • http://rltjs.wordpress.com/ Rod

    Mabaho si Celdran para sakyan, bosing.

  • basyong

    church should forgive celdran? look who s talking? forgiveness comes from the heart and doesnt think of revenge and bitterness.

  • http://rltjs.wordpress.com/ Rod

    Noon pa kung repentant ito si Carlos tapus na ang problemang ito.

    • Logarithmic

      Please this essay: http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-910282 

  • http://rltjs.wordpress.com/ Rod

    Paano mo patawarin ang isang tao na namimilit na wala siyang nagawang kasalanan?

    • tiriring

      “All have sinned”
      Just forgive …

    • Observer_din

      parang noong panahon lang ni gloria yan di ba? ano sabi ng mga obispo noong mandaya si Gloria sa election? ” ayus lang daw kasi lahat naman nandadaya”.. hehehe

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CG6AWFVDA46M5DMR2G7VNAMFUM Mark

    Bading din kasi kaya depensa nya ang kalahi nya..Sobra sa laki ang ulo nitong spoiled mongoloid president natin a.har har har

    • tiriring

      Pres. Noynoy: No matter what you’ve said here against me, I forgive you….

    • Observer_din

      that’s what we catholics are? name calling ?? wow!! so that’s what our bishops and priests teach us?? what a shame..

  • vilmavee

    Mr. President, forgiveness is given to those who seek it.  And Mr. Celdran is just too arrogant and proud to seek it.  Perhaps, serving his jail term may bring him down to his knees to master enough humility to say, “Please forgive me”.

    • Observer_din

      mali sir, pag nakulong yan si Celdran, baka sumikat at maging senador pa yan, dagdag sakit ng ulo din ng mga obispo yan, kayo din.. hehehehe

  • warpiglets

    its not just because youhave same feather that flocks together then you seek forgiveness on his behalf? shame on you.. you dont deserve to be a president.. 

    • tiriring

      Pres. Noynoy: No matter what you’ve said here against me, I forgive you….

    • Observer_din

      that’s how it feels when the government is interferring(if that’s how you see it) with the church, people will cry separation of state and church, pero pag sina bishop at father ang nakikialam sa gobyerno sasabihin nila karapatan nila yun bilang mamamayan( na di nagbabayad ng buwis) nakakalimutan nila ang separation.. hehehehe

  • just_the_guy

    Let Celdran do what he wants to do. Let him suffer the consequences as well. He’s a grown-up man, I think…

  • LAD

    mahal na pangulo, gumaganda ang takbo ng bansa ngayon dahil sa maganda ninyong ehemplo, ganuun tyaong mga pinoy,kailangan may sampol,kaya dapat itong si celdran masampolan, kundi di matitigil ang mga tulad nyang bastos sa mga ginagawa nila

  • kapatad

    Palagay ko misquoted ka ng Inquirer reporter sa sinabi kung sinabi mo nga ito. Kung totoo ang sinabi, try namin na gawin namin yung ginawa ni Celdran sa iyong harapan, habang ikaw ay nagsasalita sa harap ng mga tao. Sa dami ng iyong PSG, baka di kami makalapit sa iyo. 

  • bahaykubo1015

    “Aquino: Church should forgive Celdran”

    Correct Mr. President!!!!    Itong mga DAMASOs kunting kasalanan preso kaagad while countless priests and bishops commit sexual abuses to children…..RUINING THEIR LIVES…and what had the church done with them????? Deny the horrible crime of these churchmen,itinatago sila nai-propromote pa nga eh
    Don’t get me wrong, I am a practicing Roman Catholic but this doesn’t mean I am turning a blind eye to the abuses of our own Filipino clergymen. KADIRI NA     HYPOCRITES

    • tiriring

      True….
      “Vengeance is mine”

      • panhase

        If vengeance is yours, then please keep it to yourself. 
        The old testament is not Christian teaching. Christian comes from Christ as in Jesus Christ. The old testament is the teaching of the jewish religion.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OS3MVCRQH7UV4MJRZURFNIXGBI Cho

      Dami kasi na insulto. Dapat puntahan nya nalang ang obispo para dalawa silang mag away. Pag ako nanduon d ko masasabi kung ano gagawin ko sa kanya.

      Kung may abuses ang mga Pari natin dapat ikulong din. Sa kaso ni Celdran daming Tao at witness at ang iba pinipigilan lang ang sarili. Ikaw kaya nanduon at nagdadasal at gambalain ng Taong ito, ano gagawin mo? Maging masaya?

      Dami nating mga Pari na may kaso, kahinaan po yan at tama hypocrisy, human frailty. 

  • KappaPhiPhi

    any religion has a set of teachings, beliefs and traditions, if one is not comfortable with his religious affiliation, then convert to the faith that suits one or be an atheist. either you believe or not. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Reynaldo-Quijada/100000740291153 Reynaldo Quijada

    Morality in western societies were destroyed by the noisy minority such as  gays, moral relativists and the like who happen generally belong to the rich as they feel self sufficient having almost everything in life while many faithful  Christians opt to stay in the sideline for fear that they will be name called as bigots which we are not DEFINITELY. Celdran and others like him who are ksp’s should not be allowed to destroy our sense of right and wrong just like that by keeping silent even if they are violating with impunity  simple good manners and worse the religious beliefs of some like us Catholics who happen to be the majority in this country. If wee keep passive, after RH will be divorce, then abortion and then gay marriage and later free love AND PROHIBITION OF PRAYING IN PUBLIC PLACES OUT OF RESPECT FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD!. We have seen it in more advanced countries happening and if we do not want to follow them to the abyss where families are almost dysfunctional, we should be firm in defending our morals by speaking out for the good of our families and especially of our children..

    • $14141131

      You forgot one important factor, Sir. His name is BO. lol.

    • tiriring

      The tyranny of Majority?
      “Narrow is the way to heaven”

    • rjimenez1226

      God doesa not love you Mr Quijada. You are a hater and you will boil in hell.

    • panhase

       What are you talking about? Where is it prohibited to pray in public places? And dysfunctional families? You do find this in the Philippines, where a parent has to leave the family and has to go abroad to earn a decent living.
      And later “free love”? Love is free. Jesus told us to love. He told us to love our neighbor as we love ourselves. He did not say we should love the ones we choose to love but we should love th person who is standing next to us. That is Christian. But being vindictive because somebody hurt ” a feeling” is definitely not Christian. Yes to follow Christian teaching is tough, it´s difficult. And if one cannot do it, then one simply cannot. But acting as if one is Christian but going against the core of the teachings of Jesus is definitely not Christian.

    • Paliwaweng

      what would be your position if non-believers, muslims, hindus or anti-christ will go out in the streets and have a procession complete with loudspeakers in public places, like what the catholic church is doing?

      And the non-believers will loudly proclaim in public their disbelief in god?

      I guess you will not object as stated in our ‘freedom of belief’ for anyone to practice his faith.

  • vilmavee

    Mr. bahaykubo1015, you are a hypocrite yourself.  You are no better than Celdran: arrogant and self righteous. Know that the notoriety committed by Mr. Celdran deserve corrective measures as a matter of course.  The Church may forgive him, no doubt, but he still have to do some acts of restitution.  

    • bahaykubo1015

      If you describe what Celdran had done as a notoriety how do you describe then the sexual abuses done to children by these priests and bishops???
      How do you describe the actions of the clergymen who condone this type of behaviour????
      I bet the English language has no appropriate adjective to describe the actions of these KADIRI HYPOCRITES……………pretending to be the God’s representatives..
       

      • tiriring

        Dont get dirty with pervert generation.
        Pray hard for them instead…

  • $38346712

    If that is your point Mr. President, then let Marcos remains be buried in Libingan ng mga Bayani and former President Gloria Arroyo have her surgery abroad to heal the gangrenous wounds of our nation.

    • tiriring

      Pres. Noynoy: No matter what you’ve said here against me, I forgive you….

    • indiosbravos2002

      Hoy Marcos and GMA loyalist. Sira ba ulo mo? Pakulong muna sa bilibid si GMA bago forgiveness. Tsaka di mo ba nabalitaan… wala namang sakit pandak mong amo. Naloko ka na naman sa non. Bawahahaha.

  • $14141131

    Is Manny Pacquiao now in Malacanang masquerading as Nhoynhoy? Shut your ignorance through your mouth, boy. Are you now trying to mix the church and state? 

    Deal and punish all the corrupt politicians of Davao Oriental and I’ll believe you. Stop faking!!!

    • Observer_din

      parang ganito lang un sir, ayaw mo makialam ang presidente sa simbahan(if you look it that way) eh di dapat sabihan din ninyo ang mga pari at obispo na wag makialam sa simbahan. fair and square.. :)

  • JUDGE

    Heto ang mga bagay na salita para sa yo Demonyong Celdran. Kung hindi ka tinuruan ng mga putang magulang mo ng kahulugan ng salitang “RESPECT”, pwes dadalhin kita sa squatters area dahil mukhang mas alam pa nila ang tamang ASAL kaysa kagaya mong asal HAYOP! May tamang lugar para sa lahat! Wala kang karapatang babuyin ang isang lugar na Sagrado para sa iba! Magsama kayo ni PNOY na galit ang nasa dibdib at kailanman ay di mararanasang mamuhay ng mapayapa! G A G O K A! 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HQGDKWN2QBXHFBKER2IIKH6JUY Orly

      Honor a place associated to a religion. If a person will do this  in a mosque, he will be brought out with his head separated from his body already.

      • tiriring

        “Don’t be afraid of someone who can kill the body but not the soul”

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/4FNXZ7TOB7WLKRJHWN2GHH5JZ4 cita

        you don’t have soul. demons live forever

      • bogli_anakdami

        ang problema eh, ang mga imam muklo di nakikialam sa rh thingy… kaya walang mosque di ba?…  si kaksaker padre dumbasso puro paki-alam sa takbo ng flip gub’ment…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/OS3MVCRQH7UV4MJRZURFNIXGBI Cho

        So ano gusto mo oo at opo nalang ang mga kasapi ng simbahan sa mga panukala at ayon sa pananaw nila na mali?

      • bogli_anakdami

        alam mo ba ang “separasyon ng tsart at estet”…

        ooopsie my bad… this is flipland..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/OS3MVCRQH7UV4MJRZURFNIXGBI Cho

        Church and state yes. But not the member of the church and its flock.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/F3I2YPXXEUMGSLNE7BCY3DVHVY Danilo

        When cory aquino became president, the word FREEDOM started to be MISINTERPRETED. Look at Manila now, full of CRIMES because everybody thinks that they have the FREEDOM to do it! Everybody hates rules! 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/OS3MVCRQH7UV4MJRZURFNIXGBI Cho

        Why Cory was dragged on this case? Irrelevant. Lol

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/X6VPCLRORXMXXFPZPOENIK5XEI nina

        Democracy to do bad.

      • panhase

         Manila was full of crime before Cory became president. I am over 60 years now, I know what I am talking about, I do not htink you have any memory of that time.
        And what does Cory have to do with this case?

      • darkempire007

        Yeah and if we had a molesting imam..like those priest..he would be buried alive

    • tiriring

      Celdran: No matter what you’ve said here against me, I forgive you….super judge.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/OS3MVCRQH7UV4MJRZURFNIXGBI Cho

        Leviticus 24:20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. As he has injured the other, so he is to be injured.

      • tiriring

        injured or hurt by the TRUTH ?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/OS3MVCRQH7UV4MJRZURFNIXGBI Cho

        What truth?

      • tiriring

        That you are sinner and you need salvation by believing Jesus who died for your sins because He loves you, Cho…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/OS3MVCRQH7UV4MJRZURFNIXGBI Cho

        You need salvation than me….Your sin is greater than mine.

      • panhase

         You do know that what your are saying does not comply with christian teachings?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/4FNXZ7TOB7WLKRJHWN2GHH5JZ4 cita

        that your mother is a whore

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/OS3MVCRQH7UV4MJRZURFNIXGBI Cho

        and yours too….

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/P5H3QAPG6ZROD3G63PDV3PEN74 Bernardo

      I Agree. Freedom has limitations.

      • bogli_anakdami

        i disagree…

        in flipland, flip murderers have no limitations… freedom to kill… they run free…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/4FNXZ7TOB7WLKRJHWN2GHH5JZ4 cita

        then kill pnoy now. you are free to do it

    • henri_see

       Super Like Super Judge!
      Di kailangan ni Celdran ng pardon. Probation lang di na sya makukulong.

      PERO SYEMPRE WALANG PUBLICITY PAG DI SIYA MAKUKULONG.

      The guy is MEDIA-HUNGRY. And the stupid commenters here are too dense to see through it.

    • darkempire007

      Yeah respect the vatican when they tried to cover up the molestation cases of thousands of children?..

  • bogli_anakdami

    dapat si celdran eh ikulong doon sa manila katedral at pag-iiyutin/tsupain ng kaksaker padre dumbasso…

    that will teach celdran a lesson, di ba?

    • tiriring

      Pls read your bible.
      The lesson is there…

      • bogli_anakdami

        which version/translation of the buybull ooooopsie bible?

      • tiriring

        The translation of Word to life.
        The Holy Spirit will translate them to you…don’t worry.. bogli.

      • bogli_anakdami

        we speak the same lingo… no translation needed… no cult/occult to join either to be one…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Reynaldo-Quijada/100000740291153 Reynaldo Quijada

    Binasa ko ang mga posts sa baba at nakapagtataka halos lahat di sang ayon sa panawagan ni PNoy at ang iba ay galit na galit. PNoy must watch out because Filipinos are thinking humans. Sayang, his initial goodwill will disappear before he knows it. Some leaders are the last to know that their kitchen is already  burning especially if they are not humble and just rely on the lies of his court jesters.

    • bogli_anakdami

      bwi hi hi hi hi… “flips are thinking humans..” ba ka mo?

      since when did flips “fully” evolve?

    • tiriring

      Pre Noynoy: Thanks for your advice Rey… I’ll heed it.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VIZVTAXF7CDL73UM2K5AQ2JT3M paolo s

    Parang ang termino umunawa ay napaka kaunti o kung hindi naman ay mailap sa ating panahon ngayon. Lahat ng tao na lang nag-aangkin ng kaalaman pero di na ata nabibigyan pansin ang pag-unawa. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BZDIYNO2IPIFKDJF7NSDNVTJDQ Jason

    NAPAKA ABUSADO NAMAN TALAGA NG SIMBAHAN..PILIT HINAHAWAKAN SA LEEG ANG GOBYERNO NATIN..PHWEE!!!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OS3MVCRQH7UV4MJRZURFNIXGBI Cho

      Tell me what Church abuses are?

      • tiriring

        Church is His bride… it is pure..
        Maybe you mean catholic ..

      • bogli_anakdami

        yep… exactly what the traposakals are doing…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AX6JJVDK2YVZ56DN4TTOMJFRHI Doods

    The abuses made by clergy are beyond compare. Child abuses and Sexual Abuses are some of them. Ang problema sa ilang Catholic parishioners ay di nila nakikita ito…sa halip ay nagbubulag-bulagan sa katotohanan….a sign of Fanatism.
    Ang batas ay dapat pantay-pantay para sa lahat…..

    • mhertz

      The mistake of others does’nt make you right.  The child abuse case has been in court also. The mistake of one, is not a mistake of all. Kahit si Juan ay nagkasala hindi ibig sabihin pati si Pedro ay makasalanan din.

      • Vertumnus

        That might be true but the silence of the majority becomes complicit to the heinous act of the minority.  Many Filipinos can trace their lineage to priest and friars of the Spanish Colonial era who fathered children with Filipina women.  The vow of poverty and celibacy doesn’t seem to apply to most priest.  At it was in colonial times, so it happens in the modern times.  

        Silence gets you nowhere.  

      • http://twitter.com/31dMB Dodjie Basco

        So  what do you suggest? Do more mockeries inside the churches?

      • Vertumnus

        One instance of civil disobedience does not constitute a revolution. Misdemeanor charge would have suffice and time serve in jail. Nothing was destroyed, no one was physically hurt and the only casualties are the sensibilities of some people. Christianity is tolerant religion, we are not Muslims that kills just for drawing a caricature of the Prophet Muhammad. That’s why we are Christians and they are Muslims.

      • Kabakakan

         that’s why on circumstances like this, i wonder if who really is the better group. Those who would just stand idly while their belief and their place of worship is being desecrated? Or those who will give their life, fight to the death, when their belief is being mocked as they consider their faith greater than their life?

      • Vertumnus

        The religion that value life over fundamentalist beliefs is the better religion. Tolerance is the hallmark of Christianity otherwise we would have never stopped the crusades.

      • bogli_anakdami

        kaksaker padre dumbassos do worse than mockeries inside churches…

      • carlos_premacio

        ang layo naman ng sinasabi mo. How about the Iglesia Ni Kristo obligating their flocks to vote for their candidates or else you will be expelled. Even the Church of Ecleos in the Dinagat island which perpetrated oppression and abuses to people who will not join their church. Ecleo’s church is now in alliance with the Liberal Party and the AKBAYAN. Did you hear the Liberal Party say something about this one? Catholics don’t have that kind of monstrosity!

      • Vertumnus

        People join various religion for their own reasons. Church politics is up to the parishioners. If they tolerate that kind of behavior is because they allow it! One is always free to choose either to stay of leave. We are a free society. Ultimately, our choices determined the path our lives takes.

      • catmanjohn

        What a diabolical bunch of schemers UNA is. Everyone knows that Ecleo was an Arroyo lackey, and now that he has been exposed with the manure of corruption and filth, he wants to wipe his sins on the banner of LP. Who are you fooling? Perhaps this is another Enrile deceit. 

      • mhertz

        Then go after of who is at fault, that will not be reason enough to generalize who serve the Lord rightfully. And you have to know that not all congregations vowed for poverty,for celibacy yes.

      • Vertumnus

        In a barrel of apples, there’s bound to be a couple of rotten once. It’s up to the rest to insure honesty and integrity in their chosen vocation. But most often than not, they will go to extra lengths to protect and cover the crimes of those dishonest priest. It not concern for parishioners but the protection of the Priest and the Catholic church.

      • mhertz

        Then if you are really concern, you should shed light to the open and go after who is at faulth not a mere observant and spread your inadequate source and presumptions. Yes there are convicted, some maybe just being malign. The victim should be responsible enough to go after the offenders not just spread vocally of what had happened. Is there any difference? Offenders and victims are both have the right of law.

      • Vertumnus

        Easy for you to say. It’s not easy for people to break 300 years of forced religious indoctrination. The church taught people to believe that the church is always right. No one question the authority of the priesthood let alone the whole Catholic Church. Anyone who has been violated is to scared or ashamed to come forward and of those who manage to get their case across, they are put through a barrage of questions and innuendos. No secret are hidden forever. Sooner or later, all wrong doings will come to light and the guilty punished.

      • mhertz

        Your prejudice is so apparent, deal with it…They are those who are convicted too…Catholic church is home of Sinners and Saints .. You have lots of myths about Catholic Church that you have to deal with your own self…Well anyhow what can you expect from 1000 rising denominations…Hope they get to heaven too with their maligning tactics and myths that for them would be reason enough to put down a certain faith. As I’ve said you are entitled to your own opinion.

      • mhertz

        and more so, if you are not bias enough there are priest who are being removed because of their wrongdoings. The church never claim that they are blameless, satan is always there to cast his darkness and some have fallen to satan. But give justice to both offender and righteous. If you say that most of the priest are offender then you should provide data with that otherwise it will all be base in your bias opinion.

      • Vertumnus

        It’s not for me to defend the accuse. It’s my personal opinion right or wrong. Just read the news and see how many clergy are involve in all sort of shenanigans and it doesn’t take genius to figure out there’s something completely wrong in the Catholic Priesthood.

      • mhertz

        If that is what you figured out as being a genius as you said then it is your opinion and you are entitled to it. And you don’t suppose to leave Jesus just because of Judas. Btw are you a leader now of a new denomonition? Bec. that is what I figured it out..

      • Vertumnus

        You’re a religious zealot aren’t you? It’s apparent from your comments that the church can do no wrong. Believe what you like doesn’t make it true.

      • mhertz

        Nope, you are just judgmental. that is why, but don’t worry we are get use to people like you. Maligning others faith. Against everything, that Catholic does. I did’nt even say that the church can do no wrong, haler..so much of your prejudice..

      • Vertumnus

        You can leave the church without leaving Jesus.  No one religion has a monopoly on God.

      • mhertz

        Hhmmmnn.. let me guess somebody is non-denominational? tsk..tsk..it is either you are justifying your separation from one Holy Catholic and Aspotolic Church or you just don’t know the teachings of Jesus. You can have your own God without religion. But fact is there can only be one truth about God. A self proclaim gospel is never a true gospel.

      • Vertumnus

        You’re way off! But then again, I wouldn’t really expect much from you. As far as gospel, the Jews thought the same way when Jesus came around. It’s a matter of perspective. OK, this is my last response to your comments as it is apparent this is a worthless endeavor!

      • mhertz

        Jews never believe in Jesus as the messiah and until now they are still waiting for the messiah. Well anyway Im not here to impress anybody. And I’m not bothered at all, of how you may think of me.

      • Vertumnus

        That is a complete lie! The Sanhedrin didn’t believe he was the messiah not the whole of Jewish people.
        Who do you think where the first Christians? Filipinos?
        Go back to bible school! You need a refresher course!

      • mhertz

        Of course those Jews who do believe in Jesus are Christians now not Jews anymore.

      • Vertumnus

        They were jew by ethnicity, became Christians by religion just as Filipino by ethnicity, Christians by religion.
        The point is, the first Christians were Jews. That is indisputable fact.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/OS3MVCRQH7UV4MJRZURFNIXGBI Cho

      Clergy, pastors, Imam, had their own kind of abuses. Don’t be hypocrite.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OS3MVCRQH7UV4MJRZURFNIXGBI Cho

    Celdran is quite lucky. I wasn’t in there. Otherwise he will get what he wanted.

    • tiriring

      “vengeance is mine”

      • bogli_anakdami

        did jchrist say that? … bad, jc, bad…

        or is it some loser’s translation???

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/L6TTZGNCMP4XWQQCNIX65PTNJM Ciano

    kung si Pnoy nakikiusap sa mga obispo napatawarin si Celdran,dapat marunong din siyang magpatawad sa kapwa nya. kaya wala siyang karapatang magsabi sa mga mga obispo na patawarin kasi siya mismo di marunong magpatawad!

    • tiriring

      Pres. Noynoy: No matter what you’ve said here against me, I forgive you….ciano.

    • Noel

      At ano at sino ang dapat patawarin ni Celdran?  Ang ginawa lang niya ay pag-express ng kanyang paniniwala at suporta sa RH Bill.  Hindi naman siya Obispo o Pari.  Ang mga Obispo at Pari ang siyang dapat magpatawad dahil iyan ang kanilang itinuturo.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CG6AWFVDA46M5DMR2G7VNAMFUM Mark

        Ulool!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/X6VPCLRORXMXXFPZPOENIK5XEI nina

    Don’t do it inside the church. plssssssssssssssssssss

    • tiriring

      Jesus did not have church building.
      He preached under the trees…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/OS3MVCRQH7UV4MJRZURFNIXGBI Cho

        So do it. Preached under the tree.

      • tiriring

        You are a vine.. Cho
        You must bear fruits..

      • bogli_anakdami

        mansanas, to be exact…

      • Noel

        Well, at that time, church buildings were owned by the government.  But true, one can preach anywhere.  On the other hand, God commands us to worship Him in His Temple.

      • tiriring

        You are His temple.. if you allow Him.

      • bogli_anakdami

        exactly… if you allow him…

        that’s what kaksaker padre dumbassos say to an unsuspecting child…

    • catmanjohn

      As long as Celdran expressed his version of truth, without offense to decency, where Catholic priests used that same place of worship to espouse their social and political views which were outside the realm of religion, he was justified in doing so. The blind obedience and unquestioned sanctity of the Catholic Church is the reason why the Protestants have been kicking the Catholics buts around for the past 400 years.

      • Kabakakan

        If you don’t like the sermon, you can get out of the church. The priests have the right to sprout anything during the mass. the people inside it, willingly go inside the church. call it blind obedience but it’s their choice. if they are fine with it, then it is their choice. it is also their own FREEDOM OF RELIGION and their own FREEDOM TO ASSEMBLE. If you don’t have any religion or does not believe in any deity or whatsoever, IT DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO MOCK OTHER PEOPLE WHO DOES HAVE A RELIGION. Crash into their own service, and disrupt their own service.

      • catmanjohn

        The wise Mr. Kipling once inspired his fellow man by stating, “IF, you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken, twisted by knaves, to make a trap for fools….
        Or watch the things you gave your life to broken, and stoop and build them up again with worn out tools…” I feel his words strengthen my conviction.

      • Kabakakan

        Wise words and truly motivating. But sad to say, it does not exempt people from mocking others beliefs and faith. Celdran mocked the Catholic Faithful by his acts. And if we let this travesty pass, then we give the premise that anybody can also mock/disrespect anything, anyone, any race, any age, any gender, in the name of Freedom of Speech.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OS3MVCRQH7UV4MJRZURFNIXGBI Cho

    Leviticus 24:20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. As he has injured the other, so he is to be injured.

    • Vertumnus

      Matthew 5:39
      “But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also” 

      • Noel

        That appears to be the Catholic Church’s policy.  It’s useless quoting from the Bible because the Catholics do not base their faith solely on the bible.

      • tiriring

        The Word will not be useless to anyone.
        Never…

      • bogli_anakdami

        exactly…

        the word is big $$$biznez$$$…

      • boytz

        Yes, this is what appears to be the problem of the bible. Playing safe, it tries to cover all exigential situations that it almost always contradicts itself

    • marienkind

      Ever notice that whenever somebody’s trying to use the Bible to justify a d*ck move they cite the old testament?

  • duviz7533

    celdran kung si damaso ang hinahunting mo,wala siya sa manila cathedral.i also don’t agree sa catholic church sa stand nila regarding this bill,please don’t cross the line,respeto sa nagsisimba.mga pro life kuno na senators sila ang hamonin mo ng bangayan

    • Noel

      Celdran did not cross the line.  He followed the line.  In line manner, our National Hero Dr. Jose Rizal did not cross the line.  He also expression his opinions but was later executed by the Spaniards on the church’s influence.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

        Kailan ba nag disrupt ng religious service si Jose Rizal katulad ng ginawa ni Celdran?

      • bogli_anakdami

        noon ‘sang araw… nandoon ako sa gilid kc, standing room only… na-bwiset nga ako eh…

      • Kabakakan

        EMARGERD!!! Why do people compare Celdran to Rizal? Is our national hero really that low? My GOD people! You are desecrating the memory and legacy of Rizal by comparing him with this man! He clearly crossed the line by pushing his Freedom of Speech against Freedom of Religion (Freedom of not having any Religion).

  • indiosbravos2002

    Wow, a lot of anti-RH trolls alive and kicking trying to exact revenge via this issue. Is this to compensate for their loss in congress.

  • bogli_anakdami

    a lot of buybull  oooopsie bible thumpers are humming their magical incantation…. hummmmm hummmmm hummmmm…

    • tiriring

      Its more than magic if you allow the Holy Spirit to work in you.

      • bogli_anakdami

        the holy spirit is not a good worker… the holy spirit has been working with flips for over five centuries…

        the result >>> flips are magnananakws, murderers, maraming kabits, etchas tera, etc… 

        holy spirit is natutulog sa pansitan…

  • Noel

    The Catholic Church led by her Cardinals, Bishops and Priests are vindictive.  History tells us.  In the past, decades and centuries ago, mere criticism of the church would cause one to be arrested, tortured and killed.

    Celdran represents many of the Filipinos who resent the Catholic Church’s never ending meddling in the state’s economic and political affairs.  He was supporting RH Bill which the Catholic Church vigorously opposed.  Now that the Bill was passed, the church used a scape goat in the person of Celdran to retaliate. 

    Expressing one’s opinion is nothing new inside the chapel or during Mass.  Is the priest not doing that during his sermon?  Is he not attacking some leaders, government policies and politicians?  At the height of Marcos-Cory election campaign, anti-Marcos groups were allowed to bring and carry their placards inside the church to show and express their support for Cory and attacks against Marcos.  

  • opinyonlangpo

    PNoy is making fun of the  catholic priests. He know that they are a vengeful unforgiving church. Anyway nothing to lose trying.

  • Observer_din

    Napansin ko lang yung mga anti RH posters  ibinuhos nila galit nila ke Celdran at ke PNOY, me karapatan naman talaga mejo wala sa lugar yung ke Celdran.
    Pero yung ke PNOY parang suggesting lang naman na patawarin na, sinabi naman nya na me mali din si Celdran. Parang nabaligtad ngayon ang dating ang gobyerno na nakikialam sa simbahan kaya madami nagalit na anitRH, pero pag ang simbahan ang nakialam sa gobyerno ok lang para sa mga anti-RH. Just an observation though. :)

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CG6AWFVDA46M5DMR2G7VNAMFUM Mark

      False Observer

    • Pedro_Gil

      ano ba kayo? di ba malinaw na kailangan na ninyong patawarin ang mga kasalanan ng mga bading? kasama na yung nagpapanggap na lalaki pero bading talaga. hehehe. only in the philippines!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TTUIJSFNLPB3ZAFKTNC3YM47AM Edith

    Patawarin si Celdran kung humihingi siya ng tawad. Nagsisisi ba si Celdran na binastos niya ang Catholic church and its members?

    • rjimenez1226

      nagpaunmahin na ba ang simbahan sa libolibong batang ni rape ng mga pare?

      • Kabakakan

         rjimenez1226?  Ano ba ang topic?

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    Forgiving is easier said than done. It’s always easier for the offender to ask for forgiveness than the offended to forgive. For a vindictive president like Aquino to order the church to forgive is like adding insult to injury.

    Has President Aquino forgiven the trespasses of Bong Naguiat & Rico Puno? Or is President Aquino deliberately just looking the other way?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/X2BDUGL6MBU5ZAYBGYDELSSKL4 wyatt

    sanamagan this catholic church! punish your sex predators priests not the people who doesn’t  go with your antiquated ideas! bull!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JW3SV7ZIGLJCJMECO2IUN7GCCU smiley

      that’s another story.

      • rjimenez1226

        evasive talaga ang mga katoliko sa kademonyohan ng mga pare.

      • bogli_anakdami

        sa susunod na season/chapter yan sa telenovela/teleserye…

  • disqusted0fu

    What does Pnoy have against the church? Seems like he’s always contradicting the church’s decisions. What if the church told him that he should forgive the administration that gave Hacienda Luisita to the farmers?  What’s he going to do about that?

    • catmanjohn

       Aquino haters have an IQ of a mosquito.

      • bogli_anakdami

        ay sus ginoo… eh di si prez gung gong akin’o eh no iq… kc, yung haters may sentido kumon…

  • maximus commentus

    Pinapatawad naman siya ng mga Katoliko kahit pa hindi siya nagsisisi, pero dapat harapin niya ang sentensya niya. Kung hindi, marami lang gagaya dito.

    Pinatawad din agad ni Pope John Paul II ang Turkish assassin na bumaril sa kanya, dinadalaw pa sa kulungan, pero hindi ito pinalaya sa kulungan. Medyo hindi nag-iisip si Pnoy. Kung masusunod ang sinasabi niya, bilang katoliko, dapat din niyang patawarin and corrupt na si GMA, dapat ba itong palayain? Syempre hindi. Dapat siyang managot sa ginawa niya. Ganon din dapat si Celdran.

    Medyo biased syempre si Pnoy sa side ni Celdran kaya siya ganito. Pero overall magaling siyang presidente, lalo na sana kung gayahin niya ang nanay niya pagdating sa moralidad.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

    For those who want that Celdran be spared from imprisonment, may I ask the question:
    SHOULD WE ALSO APPLY  THE SAME TO ALL CORRUPT OFFICIALS OF THE COUNTRY?  or should we have a double standard: basta mabigat na kaso, dapat papanagutin sa  batas at yung hindi mabigat na kaso, dapat palusutin na lang katulad ng kaso ni Celdran?
    Look at Singapore, It is  a very rich country, because they are very efficient in implementing their laws even the most simple traffic rules and regulations!!!

    • catmanjohn

      Get real… Pulling out a protest card and yelling during a Catholic Mass, to voice opposition in a place where sermons were preached against supporting the RH Bill, is much different than stealing money from the nation’s treasury. 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

        ang ibig mong sabihin, basta sa maliliit na violations ng batas tulad ng caso ni Celdran, palusutin na lang at ang dapat panagutin ay ung malalaking kaso lang? ganun po ba ang gusto ninyong sabihin?
        Tingnan mo ang Singapore, asensado dahil kahit sa napakasimpleng batas, napa strikto mag patupad.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

        .

      • catmanjohn

        Move to Singapore. It will take another generation to educate the Philippine people to standards that you unrealistically compare them to. Poverty, corruption, and misguided policies (especially of the Catholic Church), have kept the People down for too long.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

        E di ba, dapat magsimula tayo sa maliliit na bagay. yan naman  ang filosofia ng ating pangulo, matuwid na daan.  So dapat walang excuse mapa malaki o maliit ang violation sa batas, dapat papanagutin.  

         Kasi kung susundin natin an ipinapahiwatig ng sinabi mo na, It will take another generation to educate the Philippine people to standards that you unrealistically compare them to, hindi talaga tayo uunlad nyan.

        Katulad ng sinasabing mong misguided policies ng Catholic Church, wala naman pumipilit sa atin  na maging Katoliko. Karapatan nating lahat na pumili kung annuong relihiyon ang gusto nating sundi. Kung kinakailangan punain ang misguided policies, lets do it sa proper forum.  Pero wag nating apakan ang karapatan ng iba. sa ginawa ni Celdran, inapakan nya ang karapatan ng mga ordinaryong tao na gustong magdasal ng tahimik at mataimtim sa loob ng kanilang simbahan.

      • catmanjohn

        I unfortunately do not have the intelligence to lower my IQ to your level. You either have common sense or not, and without it, it would be like conversing religious philosophy and national politics with a rock.

  • imongredneck

    I’m sure the church has long forgiven Mr. Celdran. However he has to face the law. Fortunately we have laws that serves to keep the society civil and orderly. Celdran crossed the boundaries, and a fair and just judgement has been duly served.

    • catmanjohn

      So then you should be as fervent to put Enrile, the Arroyos, Estradas, and others in jail for having committed more serious crimes.

      • bogli_anakdami

        shouting inside the church is a serious crime…

        according to flip gung gongs, what the enriles, arroyos, estradas, et al did or do are not…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JW3SV7ZIGLJCJMECO2IUN7GCCU smiley

    he needs a presidential pardon.

  • henri_see

    Mr. President,

    HE DOES NOT NEED A PARDON. PROBATION is enough to ESCAPE JAIL TIME.
    BUT THERE’S NO PUBLICITY THERE. He’d rather appeal and risk losing than lose the publicity.

    The guy is MEDIA-HUNGRY. I can’t believe that the President with his busy schedule was among those who BIT HIS BAIT.

    Thank you, Sir.

    • bogli_anakdami

      you’re welcome, henri_c

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FLJTDAJBXYODZXD5KAK76UT73Q Nerraw

    MR PRESIDENT SHOULD UPHOLD THE LAW OF THE LAND!!!!WOW I CAN’T BELIEVE IT….The church can always forgive but not the law…edi palayain nalang nila lahat na nag violate ng batas…Sabagay hindi na bago yan sa mga Aquino, lupa na kakapirangot ng mga magulang ko, dugo at pawis ang puhunan, wala na pinaghatihati na dahil sa CARP na gawa ni Cory pero ang Luisita wala parin nangyayari…Palibhasa utak kumunista mga Aquino, di marunong sumunod sa batas..Abnoy talaga pati mga followers nya abnoy….

    • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

      Ang talino mo, pare. =)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FLJTDAJBXYODZXD5KAK76UT73Q Nerraw

        Hindi sa talino yan pre..personal experience!!!!!

      • rjimenez1226

        actually ang ibig sabihin niya, tanngengot ka. hehe. talagang low IQ ka.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FLJTDAJBXYODZXD5KAK76UT73Q Nerraw

        inamin ko naman di ako matalino. pero i made 42$/hr sa sipag at tyaga. e ikaw?

    • bogli_anakdami

      totoo yan…

      tingnan mo yung mga magnanakaws sa flipland… kapag binigyan ng abuloy si kaksaker padre dumbasso, all their sins were forgiven, di ba?

      kelan ulit magkakaroon ng prayer breakfast sa shang-ri la makati?… punta ako don para makalahid ng forgiveness…

    • rjimenez1226

      Ang tangengot mo. Bagay kang ilusaw ng Diyos sa mundong ibabaw.

    • citizenH

      The church should also go after the Senators that voted for the RH bill, because they hurt their feelings on that topic as well. I guess that law is open for interpretation depending on  where you are on the socio-economic stratum. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BFAP7EYBHCEHPZY5UUKSIIHVGY Para sa iyo din ito

    Siguro mas gusto ni Celdran makulong siya para may pamartyr effect itong publicity wierdo na ito. Bigyan siya ng pagkakataon mag pakumbaba at matutong gumalang sa paniniwala ng ibang tao.

    • maximus commentus

      Oo nga. Saka gusto rin niya para maraming boys. Aminadong bisexual si Celdran according to wikipedia.

      • rjimenez1226

        pantasya mo yan.

      • maximus commentus

         bakit hindi mo i-google.

  • rjimenez1226

    Huwag na lang para tuloy tuloy na ang pagkamartyr ni Celdran at nang sa ganoon maraming anti-friar converts!

    • maximus commentus

      Ang baba naman ng standards mo sa pagiging martir. Nang-istorbo lang ng misa, martir na. Siguro yung kapitbahay ninyo, nagsulat lang ng graffiti, santo naman para sa iyo. LOL,

      • rjimenez1226

        para sa iyo talagang mababa dahil ikaw ay kampo ng demonyo sa totoo lang. ang bantot ng pag-iisip mo.

      • maximus commentus

        o ikaw… nag-reply ka sa akin… martir ka na rin siguro parang si Celdran.. Hahaha. Makainom nga ng tubig tapos ibuga ko sa mukha mo… magiging martir din ba ako?

    • bogli_anakdami

      kung pagka-martyr ang usapan, mas maganda eh tepokin ang mga kaksaker padre dumbasso… mga martyr silang lahat, di ba?

      si celdran eh isa lang… di maganda…

  • rjimenez1226

    Coming fron the president  himself ito ay isang malaking irony. Nakakahiya ang mga paring banal na aso santong kabayo!

    • maximus commentus

      ang nakakahiya yang mga comments mo, pang bobo.

      • rjimenez1226

        tingnan mo ang mga bobong katoliko, ang lakas ng loob tumawag ng iba na bobo. Balasubas na pervert na nangaabuso ng bata!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FLJTDAJBXYODZXD5KAK76UT73Q Nerraw

      Pinatawad ba ng mga Aquino si Beltran? Namatay nalang yun sa sama ng loob. Mga Aquino talaga di nag iisip ng sinasabi nila. Palibhasa kulang sa buwan…
      Parehas kayo ng idol mong Abnoy..salita ng salita di muna nag-iisip kung nakakabuti ba o hindi..dilang abnoy bakla pa…lol

  • Bisdak_kaayo

    Dito masusukat ang HYPOCRISY ng simbahan. Forgiveness ang tinuturo ni Cristo pero itong mga alagad kuno na mga pari, vengeance ang ginagawa.

    I do not believe in Priests anymore.

    • maximus commentus

      Hindi naman sinabi ni Kristo na palayain ang mga lumabag sa batas. Sabi lang niya patawarin, hindi palayain.

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Sinabi rin ba ni Cristo, ihabla at ipakulong? patawa talaga kayo.  

      • gWapo

         kung wala nang kasalanan kc pnatawad, dapat malaya na! kaya kung d makalaya, d pinatawad. komonsens. mga huwad talaga!

      • maximus commentus

        syempre, may kasalanan pa rin siya sa batas ng tao kaya dapat siyang makulong.

    • bogli_anakdami

      wala naman kinalaman si cristo sa mga pari eh… tanongin si cristo kung meron syang kakilalang pari?

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        tumpak. tama ka kasi in the first place hindi alagad ni Cristo ang mga pari kaya hindi niya kilala ang mga ito.

      • maximus commentus

        Mga katolikong obispo, pari, at kardinal lang ang may traceable roots magmula pa kay San Pedro.

        Buong buhay nila inialay kay Kristo. Sampung taon sa semenaryo, tinalikdan ang pamilya, hindi mag-aasawa at magkakaanak para pag-aralan si Kristo, tapos sasabihin mong hindi alagad?

        Mas paniniwalaan ko pa ang pinsan ng kinakapatid ng kapitbahay ng isang pari kesa sa iyo o kahit sinong gusto lang magtayo ng sariling relihiyon.

      • maximus commentus

        Natural, pope kasi ang kaibigan ni Kristo, si San Pedro, ang unang Papa.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/L6TTZGNCMP4XWQQCNIX65PTNJM Ciano

      doon ka na lang maniwala kay satanas…

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Believing in Satan is synonymous in believing in priests.  Mga epokrito.

      • abner

         si pia plesurable ba ang epokrito??

      • gWapo

        may pagkaiba ba sila?

    • gWapo

      amen to that! many just don’t practice what they preach. r they satans, too?

    • maximus commentus

      It’s called justice. Vengeance is if the priest punched celdran in the face, which did not happen.

    • txtman

      TAMA NA

      ANG KABADINGAN DYAN

      FOI BILL ANG PAG-USAPAN

      NAPAIKOT NA NAMAN KAYO NI PENOY & INQUIERER
      .
      .
      .

      SIGE NGA, SAAN BA BAHAY MO

      PARA PUNTA KAMI AT MAGSISIGAW DOON

      WAG KANG AANGAL

      YAN ANG TINATAWAG NA HYPOCRISY

      IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE PRIESTS

      SO WHAT

      PITIFUL

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

    For those who want that Celdran be spared from imprisonment, may I ask the question:
    SHOULD WE ALSO APPLY  THE SAME TO ALL CORRUPT OFFICIALS OF THE COUNTRY?  or should we have a double standard: basta mabigat na kaso, dapat papanagutin sa  batas at yung hindi mabigat na kaso, dapat palusutin na lang katulad ng kaso ni Celdran?
    Look at Singapore, I tis  a very rich country, because they are very efficient in implementing their laws even the most simple traffic rules and regulations!!!

    • bogli_anakdami

      flips and singaporeans are two different species…

      flips haven’t fully evolved…

      • rjimenez1226

        You are the less evolved of the less evolved obviously.

      • txtman

        TAMA NA

        ANG KABADINGAN DYAN

        FOI BILL ANG PAG-USAPAN

        NAPAIKOT NA NAMAN KAYO NI PENOY & INQUIRER

        PITIFUL

  • $38346712

    To forgive the Marcoses and the Arroyos are more beneficial to the country than to forgive Celdran who according to CBCP has long been forgiven by the Church. In fact, the forgiveness he gets has emboldened other people to malign the Church and her hierarchy of which the concrete evidence is this commentary forum of Inquirer. If the Church has not forgiven him he must suffer the ecclesiastical disciplinary actions among them are excommunication and reprimand. But his act was not only sacrilegious according to Church laws but also violative of the law of the state whose head is President Aquino, henceforth the obligation to forgive lies upon the shoulder of the president. He must use his power to pardon or whatever means to spare Celdran from the claws of that law.

    • teekaye2

       Please do not equate corruption with freedom of speech

      • $38346712

        All sins can be forgiven except when a sinner doesn’t believe he can be forgiven.

      • teekaye2

         I think if you go through life thinking that all sins can be forgiven , you are more likely to commit a sin or sins

  • catmanjohn

    There are so many false Christians here who reveal their blind over zealous devotion to outdated rituals, idolatry, hypocrisy, and betrayal of reason, that these same people would be the one’s crucifying Jesus Christ if time allowed it. 

    • Platypus09

      That is better than being agnostics.

      • teekaye2

         Anyone can follow the 10 commandments without following these churches that have  been protecting  their own, who violated young boys and giils in their own church. Who is to say that law abiding agnostics are not better. people and more respectable than these unholy men

      • Platypus09

        You are one of those who are narrow-minded and rule-hating AGNOSTICS by generalizing one or two bad apples make the entire excellent apple orchard worse.

        Your thinking is way too unrealistic and unfar, which is totally wrong.

        Several priests do not make thousands of devoted and true Apostles of Christ (priests) bad as well.

        What make you think like that?

        That is how shameless and unfair AGNOSTICS think..!! 

         

    • maximus commentus

      No, you can’t say that because of the current issue. Celdran is very far from Jesus Christ.

      Celdran is an attention-hungry bisexual who is full of hate. Not very Christlike.

      I think you are the ones who are practicing idolatry. You all idolize this Celdran guy just because he hates Catholics. You are the ones glorifying hate.

      • catmanjohn

        Where do you see Celdran being equated to Jesus Christ. You are not only delusional, but overly judgmental. From unrealistic condemnations and calls for spiteful penalties, I stated my observations honestly.  If your fanatical mindset can not decipher reason from hate, then there is deviation in your moral bearings.  I support Celdran in his courage for expressing his views against the hypocrisy of the Catholic Church practices. That does not mean that I have to hate Catholics, which I do not.

      • maximus commentus

        Duh… your original post was all about equating the Celdran issue with Catholics crucifying Jesus. The news is about the Catholic Church putting Celdran to jail, and then you go saying that given a chance, these people with outdated rituals will crucify Jesus? Need I say more?

        You seem to be smart, you make bold statements, then you backout when you realize that they’re not right. You should man up and not deny them or change their meaning.

      • catmanjohn

        What are you, some flunkie imbecile? Read my original comment. I never mention Celdran, merely the fanatical response which shows the hypocrisy in those who call themselves true Christians. Yes, that means you too.

      • maximus commentus

        Uh..What’s this thread for? Aquino- church should forgive celdran. DUH!

      • panhase

        Maybe you can do something about you comprehension problems.

      • txtman

        TAMA NA

        ANG KABADINGAN DYAN

        FOI BILL ANG PAG-USAPAN

        NAPAIKOT NA NAMAN KAYO NI PENOY & INQUIRER

        PITIFUL

      • okayayonip

        i don’t think Celtran hates RC but he’s only against the CBCP meddling in our politics and at that time about the RH bill. the passing of the bill which was supported by the majority of the population as per survey is a clear indication that fr. Damaso is no longer popular with the public, so let’s wait for another round of yet more controversial issue the divorse bill.

      • txtman

        SURVEY OF WHAT?

        KAYA NGA NILA MINADALI AT DINAAN SA PERA

        KASI ALAM NILA

        NA LUMALABAS NA ANG KATOTOHANAN

        .
        .
         TAMA NA

        ANG KABADINGAN DYAN

        FOI BILL ANG PAG-USAPAN

        NAPAIKOT NA NAMAN KAYO NI PENOY & INQUIRER

        PITIFUL

    • txtman

      TAMA NA

      ANG KABADINGAN DYAN

      FOI BILL ANG PAG-USAPAN

      NAPAIKOT NA NAMAN KAYO NI PENOY & INQUIRER

      PITIFUL

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OWG7TEQM42UB2OFYCCB3DF4X7I Mat

    For those who want that Celdran be spared from imprisonment, may I ask the question:
    SHOULD WE ALSO APPLY  THE SAME TO ALL CORRUPT OFFICIALS OF THE COUNTRY?  or should we have a double standard: basta mabigat na kaso, dapat papanagutin sa  batas at yung hindi mabigat na kaso, dapat palusutin na lang katulad ng kaso ni Celdran?
    Look at Singapore, It is  a very rich country, because they are very efficient in implementing their laws even the most simple traffic rules and regulations!!!

    • panhase

       We do not have double standards in the Philippines? Since when?

      • txtman

        TAMA NA

        ANG KABADINGAN DYAN

        FOI BILL ANG PAG-USAPAN

        NAPAIKOT NA NAMA KAYO NI PENOY & INQUIRER

        PITIFUL

  • Platypus09

    Too late.

    He knows he has to face consequences of his own actions.

    The church is being relevant nowadays as it lives with current societal trends, not being outdated.

    • txtman

      ALL FAITHFUL CATHOLICS

      MUST LEARN THEIR LESSON

      ABOUT THE RH BILL
      .
      .
       AT ANO YUN?

      .
      .

       WAG NA WAG

      MANAHIMIK NA LANG

      OTHERWISE MAGIGISING NA LANG KAYO

      ISANG ARAW

      MGA FEW HUNDRENDS TWITTER BRIGADE

      NA ANG DUMIDKITA SA INYO

      PITIFUL

  • Bisdak_kaayo

    Dahil sinabi lang daw ni CRISTONG patawarin, pero hindi sinabi ni CRISTO na HINDI BAWAL ihabla at ipakulong.

    MGA EPOKRITO.

    • maximus commentus

      syempre naman, kung hindi eh di lahat ng kriminal naglalakad lang sa kalsada. Nakakatakot lumabas ng bahay. Wala nang kulungan. Patawarin na lang lahat, wag nang idemanda. Hindi naman perpekto ang mundo dahil may masasamang tao na dapat ikulong at turuan ng leksyon. Wala sa bibliya na bawal magdemanda at magpakulong ng mga lumalabag sa batas. Suportado ng katoliko ang justice system. Pagbitay lang ang hindi.

      Kung ikaw may mangbastos sa pamilya mo, malamang mumurahin mo rin at ipapakulong mo. Sus… sino kaya ang ipokrito.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        OBISPO IMPOKRITO PARA NAKA DRUGS’

      • maximus commentus

        Wala namang salitang impokrito ah, baka ipokrito? Ikaw yata ang sabog. Hindi ko maintindihan salita mo. Humihithit ka yata ng adik. Hala ka, baka ka makulong kasama ni Celdran. LOL.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Papa ko yan. Mga born-against kami at pro-testistante!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        impokrito di mo alam si bishop impok ng impok na iisahan ka!!

      • txtman

        TAMA NA

        ANG KABADINGAN DYAN

        FOI BILL ANG PAG-USAPAN

        PITIFUL

    • txtman

      FYI

      PAGNAGKASALA KA

      HINDI KA LANG IHAHABLA AT IKUKULONG NG LANGIT
      .

      ANO GAGAWIN SA IYO?
      .
      .

      ITATAPON KA SA KUMUKULONG ASUPRE

      WALANG KAPATAWARAN

      GETS MO?

      READ YOUR BIBLE OR KORAN
      .
      .
      IF NOT

      WHO CARES ABOUT YOUR PITIFUL LIFE

      PITIFUL

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FLJTDAJBXYODZXD5KAK76UT73Q Nerraw

    Pinatawad ba ng mga Aquino si Beltran? Namatay nalang yun sa sama ng loob. Mga Aquino talaga di nag iisip ng sinasabi nila. Palibhasa kulang sa buwan…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

      In 1986 President Corazon Aquino ordered the release of Beltran and of all political prisoners. He joined the party-list elections as a second nominee of Bayan Muna in 2001 and won a seat in the House of Representatives. He won a second term in 2004 and a third term in 2007 as Anakpawis representative.[1][2]

  • CyberPinoy

    “We can only love and forgive” – CBCP

    – Mga hipokritong Pari ! kung totoo ang sinasabi nyo bakit hanggang ngayon tinitira nyo padin yung mga politiko na pumabor sa RH Bill, yan ba ang LOVE and FORGIVE. Hangang ngayon gusto nyo padin ng revenge dahil hindi nasunod ang gusto nyo… pwe! mga sinungaling!

    • txtman

      TAMA NA

      ANG KABADINGAN DYAN

      FOI BILL ANG PAG-USAPAN

      PITIFUL

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Si Noynoy? Presidente? Anong utak? Binigyan pa ng halaga ang isang bastos na eskandaloso? Sabagay kapatid nya ganyan din. Marami dyan nangangailangan ng awa ni Noynoy pero ano ginawa? Sus Coryosep!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CARLOS CELDRAN IS A HERO LIKE JOSE RIZAL NAG SASABI LANG SIYA NG 22O BAKIT KAILANGAN PARUSAHAN SIYA NI JESUITS AT NI SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO! CBCP BISHOPS SALOT SA PILIPINAS KUNG MAG SINUNGALING WAGAS!! GUS2 MAG PARAMI NG BATANG HUBO AKALA NILA ANG PINAS POULTRY!

    • maximus commentus

      Parang Rizal? Kumukulo nga dugo ni Rizal sa mga dugong Kastila na nasa Pilipinas gaya ni Celdran. Hindi pati bisexual si Rizal gaya ni Celdran kadiri. Babae lang gusto ni Rizal, lalaking-lalaki, totoong matalino at matapang, hindi babading-bading, hindi bastos at papansin.

      Kung tutuusin binabastos ng isang Kastila (Celdran) ang mga Pilipinong Katoliko. Malamang galit diyan si Rizal kung buhay pa siya.

      Paano naging hero parang si Rizal? Isasakripisyo ba niya buhay niya para labanan ang mga Chinese sa Scarborough? Grabe naman sa komparison…nag-sumbrero lang Rizal na… pang-bopols talaga.

    • Kabakakan

      Is our National Hero José Protacio Rizal Mercado y Alonso Realonda, really that low? C’mon!? Really? Comparing Celdran to Rizal? Let’s not be blinded that Celdran asks this upon himself. And now that he’s punished for the act, expects sympathy? Freedom of Speech? So in the premise, I can also go inside a Mosque, hold a placard with “TERRORIST” on it, and that’s Freedom of Speech? Last time I checked, Freedom of Speech is not absolute. Freedom without a sense of RESPONSIBILITY, is ANARCHY!

    • txtman

      TAMA NA

      ANG KABADINGAN DYAN

      FOI BILL ANG PAG-USAPAN

      PITIFUL

    • speaksoftlylove

       Maniniwala lang akong “a hero like Jose Rizal” yang bata mo kung magpapabaril din yan sa Luneta, kuha mo DOGYOT?

  • AlexanderAmproz

    P-Noy is a decent man, as usual !

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Disente na pakialamero? Pati sa batas? Sa Kongreso? TT mo?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FLJTDAJBXYODZXD5KAK76UT73Q Nerraw

    Simple lang, Celdran cross the line at may batas para dyan kaya dapat lang na parusahan sya. Sabagay si Abnoy walang galang sa batas dahil nung congressman pa sya ni isang batas wala syang nagawa, kaya nga pinatalsik si Corona dahil gusto galawin ang hacienda…simple pero abnoy…

  • Teresita Sy

    No forgiveness. As catholics, we do not do that!

    • txtman

      TAMA NA

      ANG KABADINGAN DYAN

      FOI BILL ANG PAG-USAPAN

      PITIFUL

    • mhertz

      You ask first if Celdran  ask an  apology. He has long forgiven and no case filed against him, if he is being sorry about what he have done. But he is proud of what he has done so he should be proud to be in jail too…. Forget about  those  people who are peaceful in that church that time, and celebrate the goodness of the offender?  And it is okay that he will do it again? i guess we will never learn…

  • maypakialam

    i ask the churches in this republic that the separation  between state and church be respected. also i did not agree with the church’s stand on the said bill now a law. but i do not agree with the methods used by mr. celdran that was disrespect. not only to the church but to God. please how much ever we disagree with each other let us not disrespect God and people on solemn prayer to God.

  • UrHONOR

    NAGKALAT ang mga supling ni damasing!  Natural lang naman na dapat ipagtanggol ng mga anak ang kanilang ama at ang utang ng kanilang mga ina :)

    Huwag nang humingi npa ng TAWAD sa mga TNL na yan….hindi magpapatawad ang mga yan dahil kuripot.  Mas mabuti pa kay kabise humingi ng tawad….kahit papaano, nagpapatawad si kabise.  At kung sakaling hindi siya magpatawad, napipiho ko na magbibigay siya ng kalendaryo. 

    • txtman

      TAMA NA

      ANG KABADINGAN

      FOI BILL ANG PAG-USAPAN

      PITIFUL

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    Send the PEDOPHILE priests to jail!

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Send them. sino pumipigil sa yo? tama ka naman ah para sama sila ni celdran. sumama ka na rin kaya?

    • txtman

      TAMA NA

      ANG KABADINGAN DYAN

      FOI BILL

      ANG PAG-USAPAN

      PITIFUL

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Sabi sa news report: ”  The Philippine government, however, would continue to probe the incident
    with no less than President Aquino saying the US apology does not
    exempt the ship’s crew from accountability.”

    Bakit kay Celdran iba ang justice? Walang accountability? Basta kontra Katoliko ok lahat? Manigas kayo!

  • txtman

    TAMA NA
     
    ANG KABADINGAN
     
    .
    .

    FOI BILL
     
    ANG PAG-USAPAN
    .
    .

    SEE, PINAPAIKOT NA NAMAN KAYO NG INQUIRER & PENOY.
    .

    FOI BILL

    FOI BILL
    .
    .
    PITIFUL

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Ayoko ko na maging Katoliko. Buti pa mag Aktibista na lang ako o kaya mag Born-against o Protestistante kasi patawarin ka ni Pnoy kahit magwala ka man o mag rebelde o mag protesta sa kahit kanino basta anti Katoliko ka lang o kaya Pro-RH.

  • Mendoza_Juniors

     Basahin nyo Tubbataha news report: 

    “The Philippine government, however, would continue to probe the incident with no less than President Aquino saying the US apology does not exempt the ship’s crew from accountability.”

    Bakit kay Celdran iba ang justice? Walang accountability? Basta kontra Katoliko ok daw basta ibang paraan?  Hehehe

    • UPnnGrd

      hmmmm….     ang takot lang ni Celdran o sino pa man…. hindi puwedeng gawin iyung ganuon sa Iglesia ni Kristo samba-han  o sa Buddhist temples  o sa Hindu temples  o sa  Muslim temples.

  • imongredneck

    Celdran in an interview said that it was well worth it. If he is talking about his jail term, maybe he is happy about. Where else can he be frequently probed?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    JESUITS NOT 4 GIVE CELDRAN SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO! CBCP BISHOPS SALOT GUS2 MAG PARAMI NG BATANG HUBO AKALA SIGURO ANG PINAS POULTY NG MGA BATANG HUBO!

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Tama! Tamaan ng kidlat!

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Alin mas magandang relihiyon? Born-against o Protestistante?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      ALAM KO KUNG ANO KATOLIBAN EXTREMIST TERRORIST CBCP BISHOPS SALOT!

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Viva Born-against at Protestistante!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EAWQCV6E2OFOH2YKTTSLUOKATY Jimenez

      Mas maganda Burn Again in hell… i-recruit mo lang si pacman, may libre ka nang pamasahe at hotel sa vegas,.. kahit itanong mo kay villanueva!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    JESUITS LOVE DAMASO!! LIAR PWE! OBISPO SALOT

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Yong kita natin sa bagong Born-against natin itago nyo! Sama mo na ang mga Protestistante natin na kaibigan!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    IBA TALAGA PAG MALAKAS KAY LORD JESUITS LOVE YOU CELDRAN TIME TO JAIL OBISPO SALOT

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Papa po!

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Ibangon ang mga Born-against at Protestistante dito sa  Inquirer! Ibangon tapos ibagsak din!

  • joerizal

    The bishops are certified hypocrites. They say Amen to the judgement against Celdran (because it favors them), but they can’t accept the government’s approval of the RH Bill into law. Magtanim na lang kayo ng kamote para may pakinabang naman sa inyo!

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Mamundok ka kaya? alam mo ang rule of law? Pag kontra sa mga Katoliko walang rule of law?  Bully!

      • joerizal

        Bobo ka talaga. Talagang walang rule of law na nag-aapply sa isang religious denomination. Ang problema eh yang mga pari at bishops mo na pakialamero. Samahan mo sila sa kangkungan.

  • ARIKUTIK

    Let the church withdraw its case againts Celdran. It is not right for the church to seek justice through human court. The church is for God and God is the judge of the Faithful. Manila Cathedral listen > will you seek justice in human court ? If that is so then your church is not of God but under human rule. FORGIVE CELDRAN AND WITHDTRAW THE CASE. IT IS GOD WHO WILL JUSTIFY THE FAITHFUL…. Church listen > do not seek protection from humans for in doing so, you don’t believe your God who promised to protect the believers.

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Gawin mo sa Muslim tapos sabihin mo sa kanila yan.

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Alam mo pag ginawa mo yan sa Mosque? Di na kailangan ang courts na sinasabi mo. Sang-ayon sila na wala nang korte sagabal lang.

    • speaksoftlylove

       Isa pang ignoramus ito. Nasentensyahan na nga, “withdraw it’s case against Celdran” ka pa dyan. Baka ibang witdrawal yang nasa kukote mo? Ginagaya mo yang idol mo na kasing liit mo din ang utak. Bakit, pag pinatawad ba ng CBCP si Jose Rizal ay makakalaya  na? Tingnan nyo pareho ang kagungungan ninyo.

      • ARIKUTIK

        So you are not ignhorant that there is Court of Appeal. Celdran was sentenced only by the lowest court. What a donk claiming to be on the know but have no any idea how to use knowledge…. eeeewwwwww ……..

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Sige na nga ipokrito na nga ang mga bishops. Patawarin si Celdran. Pero gawin din natin yan sa lahat ng simbahan ng Born-against at Protestistante tapos patawarin din lagi. Kung hindi lahat sila ay ipokrito din.

    • ARIKUTIK

      Justice from God is greater than human justice. Manila Cathedral had erred in filing a case againts Celdran. Hope God may have mercy on them.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Karma ang kahulugan. Si Santiago nauna na sa karma ng RH law. ngayon si Celdran pangalawa. Sino sunod?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/276L22SZM5ZUQGV24IL4ZEF6UA Edward

        dre, nasapul nyo…

  • Hey_Dudes

    It is all for the better that this organization of hypocrites (CBCP) had this individual (Celdran) sentenced and jailed for whatever he did.

    However, from hereon end, it will be a litmus test for this same hypocrites in the event a case is filed against a priest pedophile if they will acquiesce to the court’s decision.

    • speaksoftlylove

      Wag ka ng magngitngit at pinatawad na raw ng CBCP ang bata mo. Kaya lang magpahinog daw muna siya sa bilangguan para malinawan ang utak niya. Dalhan mo na lang daw ng pagkain ang bata mo kung gusto mong makatulong, tsaka pirated DVD.

      • Hey_Dudes

        Bakit ko dadalhan ng pagkain at DVD e tiyak na ikaw ang lalamon nito dahil magkasama kayo sa karcel?

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Karma-karma lang yan. Sama ka?

  • speaksoftlylove

    Dapat pa nga iharap sa firing squad itong si Celdran sa Luneta para makumpleto at matupad ang pangarap niyang maging Jose Rizal.

    “Peloton, a puntir, fuego!”

    • ARIKUTIK

      Eh di natulog na siya forever. Wala ng sakit sa ulong maghanap buhay….. eeeewwww …. what a dumb…… maka tulog na nga lang. BTW mas type ko yong, unti unting naa agnas ang buntot nya sa harap …… nya ….hahaha….. byeeeeeee >>>>>>

  • mhertz

    Teka teka Mr President, patawarin kaagad? Eh di nga nag apology, bias pala tong” binoto ko na presidente. Diba nga wla sanang kaso sa kanya kung nag apology noon pa si Mr. Celdran? Nagpapasalamat kana ba kay Cardinal Sin noon na nanindigan sa demokrasya at ang nanay mo tumira sa Carmelites sisters? Parang wla nang nagawang kabutihan ang Catholic sayo na basta-basta mo nalang ididiin.

    • ARIKUTIK

      Madadamay si Penoy ! yeheyyyyyy….. patawarin agad si Celdran …. boom …tara ….tarat…. boom….boom….byeeeeeee >>>>>>>>

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NXV3F6YUQWDOA4HPYOFN5F2N3U Danyel

    Divorce Law na ang pag-usapan….after election 2013 dapat isulong na ang DIVORCE LAW MR. pRESIDENT! 

    • Mendoza_Juniors

      Gusto mo ma-karma? Ito na ang karma ng RH. Sunod-sunod na yan.

    • maximus commentus

      Isulong na lang kaya natin itong kamay ko sa mukha mo? Mahirap na nga ang Pilipinas, balak nyo pang gawing imoral. Pagiging banal at malapit sa Diyos lang nga ang maipagmamalaki nating mga Pilipino eh.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EAWQCV6E2OFOH2YKTTSLUOKATY Jimenez

      Bakit kulang pa ba ang kikitain nyo sa RH?

  • moshki

    …hypocrites…charges should not be made in the first place…but then again…Mr. Celdran’s action is obviously inappropriate and in the wrong place at the wrong time…i love to see him do that inside a Mosque…serve the time well Mr. Celdran hope you don’t get “turned out” in there…

    • speaksoftlylove

       Sabi ni kumag, “it’s worth it” naman daw. Sana patunayan ni kumag ang kayabangan niya. Sa araw mismo ng paglaya niya, bumalik kaagad siya sa Cathedral at maghihiyaw  ulit siya doon ng “Damaso.” It’s worth it naman pala so anong pinapapel nitong Great Imp ng palasyo, nanggugulo lang?

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Two downs: 1) Santiago 2) Celdran 3)?

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Abangan . . .

  • Hey_Dudes

    In Myanmar, Cambodia and elsewhere, Monks burn themselves to protest against abuses in society.  In our country, when Bishops are offended, they file cases and treat politicians to lunch!  It is only appropriate these men wearing ruby robes and funny looking hats – HYPOCRITES of the highest order.  SUV’s  Monsignors?  Ilan na ba ang nag-resigned sa bilang ninyo bishop?

    • maximus commentus

      You said it yourself, “in Myanmar, monks burn themselves to protest against
      the government.” Catholic priests in the Philippines have the right to
      do the same as well.

      Though, burning ones self is an act of suicide and is therefore a sin, so our priests won’t do that, they will just protest in an appropriate manner.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

      eh mga pastors hut hut ng hut hot! mas corrupt pa sa congressman 

      • marionics

        tama ka pare sunugin silang lahat pari man o pastor atsaka lahat ng religious haha katoliko o inc o born again para pantay pantay di ba

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/EAWQCV6E2OFOH2YKTTSLUOKATY Jimenez

        Mas agressibo pa nga ang pastors manghut-hut sa mga tao.. 10%!!!??? san ka pa?!?!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

    Lumabag sa batas dapat makulong! Kung ordinaryong tao gumawa kulong agad. si Celdran may kaya dapat ganun ba pag may kaya hindi na dapat makulong??? anung klaseng bansa ang Pilipinas? banana republic. walang kwenta! ikulong nayang bading na yan. pantay pantay dapat ang trato. 

  • maximus commentus

    Divorce naman daw oh, grabe talagang makasalanan na ang ibang mga Pilipinong buang, mahilig manggaya sa mga dayuhang puti. Ang babaduy, Nakakadiri.

    May sarili tayong kultura, hindi tayo dapat nanggagaya… lalo na ng imoralidad. Kaya tayo hindi umasenso eh… gaya-gaya lang tayo lagi, yung mali pa ang ginagaya natin.

    Nagpauto pa kayo dyan kay Celdran, eh hindi naman purong Pilipino yan at hindi sa atin lumaki. Takaw atensyon lang yan dahil hindi siya pinapansin sa ibang bansa, sa Pilipinas nga naman sikat siya.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

    mga bading salot sa lipununan!!! 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_R4CUX5WECRVSRCNHF7X6EHHMLA Robin A

      may all your children be gay or lesbian

  • batukan

    a pathetic move, act, words mr. president.  you are favoring a disrespectful, distasteful and foolish act.  this is out of propriety and truly a non-filipino character.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_R4CUX5WECRVSRCNHF7X6EHHMLA Robin A

      Can you please READ the article before you pontificate. Where does it say that the President favors what Celdran did. READ, READ, READ and UNDERSTAND before you make foolish reactions. 

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Mas pabor si Pnoy sa bastos kesa mga bishops pero di sa pambabastos.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

    P’noy…, does not need to ask the Plaintiff to forgive Celdran.
    He, P’noy, is empowered to do this, with the “duly delegated power of his office”.
    (Personally, I believe, this Celdran does not deserve forgiveness for his infraction)

  • Ravens727

    Philippine’s Freedom of Speech is in its last breath…….May sumigaw lang na “Damaso” nakulong na…..Yong mga ibang pari nga na kilala ko nang chi chicks pa…..hanggang ngayon naka sutana pa……e saan nila kinukuha yong pang check-in nila diba sa limos………..

    • marcopolotorres

      Kilala mo pala bat di mo dalhin s korte ang reklamo mo?

  • mrgracia

    Mali naman talaga si Celdran, dapat sa labas na lang siya ng simbahan nagsisigaw ng kanyang protesta. Kung sa ibang relihiyon niya ginawa ‘yon, baka tinalupan siya ng buhay… Ngayong makukulong siya, mas makakakuha siya ng simpatiya sa mga tao. Mararanasan niya ngayon ang naranasan ng ilang kabataan sa kamay ng mga bading na Damaso. Asahan niyong mao-oros siya ng mga kosang naghihintay na sa kanya, hahaha-hahaha-hahaha!

    • speaksoftlylove

      Paglaya ni Celbran di na i-eri yan tuwing uudo. Tingin sa kanya ng mga kakosa niya sa loob ay si Josefa o Rizalina siya. Tsaka siya magtatalon at sabihing “It’s worth it Mama!”

      • mrgracia

        Uragon ka, “Noy! Bikolano ka, bukon?

  • dotz314

    The president may have overlooked that the crime is not against the church. it is against the people of the Philippines. The law by which Celdran is convicted is not an edict of the church but by the state. The state simply protected the rights of the people, not only the church. The act made by Celdran is a disrespect to others rights, not only of the church. He must be made to answer for his act. It is not a case of freedom of expression. It is an irresponsible disrespect by someone who thinks he is above the law and now wants to hide under the guise of freedom of expression.

  • Trollollolloll

    Penoy should get himself crucified for the forgiveness of Celdran.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2I3ZP5BXVKL5LSJ37L7YFRLZKQ Antonio

    ewan ko ba kung bakit nire-relate ang RH law sa issue na ito.  walang kinalaman ang RH law sa pagkulong kay celdran. kaya siya ikukulong ay yung pag-disrespeto niya sa loob ng simbahan na may misa at mga nagsisimba.  kung ginawa niya sa labas ng simbahan, hindi siya sana makukulong.  tapos anti-Freedom of Expression daw yung pagkulong.  nagawa na nga niya e. he had all the freedom to go inside the church and made a mockery of the mass. so where is restricting freedom there?  absolutely none.   he just needs to face the consequence of violating a law he’s not aware of.  again, ignorance of a law is not an excuse.

    • just_the_guy

      Nung ginawa nya kasi yung ginawa nya sa simbahan, kinampihan agad sya ng mga pro-RH kaya ganun. Sa madaling sabi, ginamit sya. 

  • 19KaraniwangTao72

    no need for Pres. Aquino to seek forgiveness for Celdran, let him learn his lessons …. RESPECT others feeling ..

    • panaloangtotoo2

      Are the bishops respecting the feelings of others when they talk politics in their masses instead of inspiring the mass goers on the good news of Christ. Kaya nag maraming di na nagsisimba kasi boring na gang mag-preach ang mga obispo, mga mukhang dating pa!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UW2U5GS3TZRH44KE5GQRARFJ24 angeles

    You can not do that with Islam. You will get beheaded. Mr. Celdran was overzealous with his conviction and he got carried away. Let him learn his lesson. Let us not blow this issue out of proportion. No matter what, the truth remains. The Catholic church is indestructible tested by time as was declared by Jesus Himself.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WXGOFVZR56DN5BBPIDILD7C7ZU dor

    Hipokrito namn  ito, they forgive daw tapos sabi nagsalita n ang court then wala na sila magagwa..TANGA din eh noh? Eh d sana, ung case mo pina recall mo na dati pa before umusad ang case…#anakngkambing

  • GaggerAlert

    Hahaha.. uu nga namn. Respect other religions.

    Pero kapag ang religion e nakekeelam na sa state, then the church should be treated like how we treat politicians. Nobody’s immune.

    Kaya piece of advice CBCP, lay off the affairs of the state. Nakakairita lang talga kayo, kasi parang nagpapansin lang kayo. 

    In reality, nobody really cares about your opinion. You have your own interest, but if we talk about the state, its more encompassing than what you people think is good for our morality.

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Yong mga Muslim? Respect mo sila?

      • GaggerAlert

        Ok… e2 a. Medyo ihiwalay mo yung mga extremist/fundamentalist sa mga normal na mga Muslim. Kasi mga yan maayus namn pakisamahan yan. Every religion may mga bugok. Given yan.

        Sure, show respect, and the same should be demanded from them.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Yan ang kulang sa mga Born-against at Protestistante dito.

      • GaggerAlert

        Yan yung mga example ng mga bugok na sinasabi ko.

        Sometimes indi ko maintinhidhan if its insecurity on their part, or talgang feeling nila sila lang ang tama. Yan ang mentality na sana mawala sa mga religous na tao. Respeto lang ang kailangan. Hayaan mo silang gawin gusto nila, hayaan ka din nila. Pero kapag ang ginagawa nung isa e kapahamakan na sa lahat, dyan na mag intervene.

        Yan din ang parte na nakakagago lang e, alam mo namn na masamang pumatay ng tao. I mean, even a grade school, regardless ang religion knows that. Its just the adults who are pushing them to do it.

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      hindi lang cbcp…

      ISAMA MO NA RIN SI IGLESIA NI KULAFU…AT SI VILLANUEVA…

  • Platypus09

    What makes you guilty of what these people posted?

    Guilty as charged, you are..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ELGS2BPKJKG5PDWJAOOCF7K5KI Albert

    You will raise money and lobby for a convicted filipino murderer in another country, but people here cannot forgive one of your own for criticizing the church because of their interference and hypocrisy in political affairs??

    You will assault the police during a rally (in contradiction to that policemans civil rights), but cry foul when he wacks you with a baton in his own self defense.

    You will use dynamite and cyanide to destroy your own marine reefs during fishing, but complain to high heaven when a foreign vessel has an accidental grounding.

    I can only laugh at the selective thoughts of people’s comments to stories they feel passionate about. It is a shame that some impartial intelligence cannot be applied at the same time, instead of letting their mouth bypass what little brain they have.

  • panaloangtotoo2

    Can we also sue the Bishops if they are turning their Cathedrals into  houses of thieves? Can we also sue them if they preach lies and distort truth just to defend the Padrinos of their SUVs and contributors to their social action programs kuno?

    • Lolo_Basyong

      If you have evidence, utoy, why don’t you file a case?  Hehehehehe….

      • basyong

        lolo basyong naman hindi naman utoy yan kundi gunggong!!!!!!!!! siya yung sinasabi dito na kasama sa mga iglesia ni kulafu kaya mga katolikong tunay e sinisiraan.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q55QQJZTH3F5IF26RUZ44CYKIU Sky Blue

      to some of your points, of course you can. indeed you can. actually everyone can. Bringing your concerns to the court is somehow more or less a fair battle.

      and the decision of the court against Celdran is more or less fair as well.

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    PENOY…y u cant forgive gloria???

    y u cant forgive noli de castro na mismo sa occasion nila, binanatan mo…

    WAG KA NAMAN MAGING HIPOKRITO…TINGNAN MO SARILI!!!

  • Mendoza_Juniors

     Sabi sa news report:

    “The Philippine government, however, would continue to probe the incident with no less than President Aquino saying the US apology does not exempt the ship’s crew from accountability.”

    Bakit kay Celdran iba ang justice? Walang accountability? Basta kontra Katoliko ok lang?

  • boomvilla

    mga baklang ito, nagkampihan pa. durog ang bongtum mo celdran sa bilibid ajejejeje

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      yan ang gusto niya…magdala lang siya ng condom sa bilibid…para mapatunyan niya kung effective talaga ang pinaglalaban niyang rh…siya na mismo ang magpapatunay na hindi effective kasi paglabas niya, cgurado may HIV na siya or STD…

    • PlumberfromCanada

      isama mo na si kuya David niya…”CLOSE”friend daw ni sen. Kiko Cuneta at room mate pa nung college…

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Gusto ko na mag Born-against at mag Protestistante.  Dami sila dito sa Inquirer. Masaya! Recruit nyo ako pleeees!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EAWQCV6E2OFOH2YKTTSLUOKATY Jimenez

      mayaman ka ba? Check!! Sali na…
      Ito importante pag member ka na, dapat kada buwan, magremit ka ng 10% tithes.. dapat sa GROSS ha… para malaki biyaya matanggap!!

      Amen? 

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Tutuo? yeeeey!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZN5H27WREK3DQAUTMW3APDJBBA Rolan

        Hahahahahaha…

        Tama..

        10% Gross ha!

        Sister in-law ko, nauto sa mga ganitong klaseng tao… Kahit naghihirap pamilya nya, ibinibigay lahat sa mga Born-Against na walang ibang magawa kundi siraan ang ibang Religious Sects..

        Biruin mo, nagawa pang sisihin mga magulang ng sis-in-law ko dahil pinalaki raw siya ng kanyang mga magulang na puno sa kasinungalingan ng Simbahang Katoliko.. Putik!

        Grabeh ang brainwash… At muntik ng matudas ang Dad-In-Law ko dahil ugok na sister-in-law na yan… 

        Ngayon naman, hanep ang pagkamkam ng pera ng mga Born Against! Kinokwestyon niya the way how Catholics ask for tithes, eh di niya tinitingnan sarili niya, na halos walang matitira sa kanya dahil sa dami ng commitments sa simbahan niya…

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Salamat. Ayoko ko na pala. Baka magpalimos pa ako.

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    WHO IS DAMASO…
    HE IS A CATHOLIC, A PRIEST WHO DESPITE THE VOW AND THE TEACHINGS OF HIS CHURCH TENDS NOT TO FOLLOW…

    PADRE DAMASO CONVENIENTLY DID NOT FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF HIS CHURCH…

    NOW, WHO IS DAMASO???

    THESE ARE CATHOLICS WHO CANNOT FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF THEIR CHURCH…WHO SIMPLY LOVE TO TRANSGRESS WHAT THE CHURCH SPEAKS…

    AND THE MODERN DAY DAMASOS ARE THESE CATHOLICS WHO ARE PRO RH, THAT DIRECTLY OPPOSE TO THE OFFICIAL TEACHING…

    THE DAMASOS NOW ARE, CELDRAN, HONTIVEROS, PENOY, LAGMAN, AND MANY OTHER CATHOLICS WHO ARE HAVING FUN DISOBEYING THE TEACHINGS OF THEIR RELIGION…

    THESE ARE HYPOCRITES…THESE ARE CAFETERIA CATHOLICS…THESE ARE THE DAMASOS…

    • Mendoza_Juniors

      Sige banatan mo. Dito ako sa likod mo. Walang respeto ang mga yan kaya wag mo silang respetuhin. Ingatan mo lang puso mo kasi kalimitan mga Born-against  at Protestistante yan.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        dnt worry bro…tagal ko ng binabanatan itong mga born against at iglesia ni kulafu…wala naman silang binatbat…at the end, they will only curse me…pero d naman ako niyan tinatablan…i am the fuhre, u know…at the same time, a ghost…they curse me to death…but i know, cursing is an act of satan…lalo na yan si marionics, tamumd and edgardo, isama mo na si weary…

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Sama mo na rin papa ko.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        sino un?

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Junior nya ako :)

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        father mo pala…born against rin? ikaw, wat religion mo?

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Never-born ako. Free faith ako.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        agnostic?

    • GreenStallion

      Very intelligent analysis. Good point and keep on commenting. Sometimes we keep telling everyone that they are “Damaso” but have we look into ourselves if we are of the same feather? 

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        tnx bro…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TWVIBNBHJIBKXLUC5IT2JYM5E Harry

    Being a Christian, what Celdran’s did was an act of freedom of expression. If those that raised placards inside the Senate during hearings were not jailed, why should Celdran be jailed?

    • Mendoza_Juniors

      May utak ka? Expresssion of view is different from insults and disrespectful trespassing. The law has spoken. Napunta ka na sa Singapore? Nguya ka lang ng chewing gum may fine ka na? Kaya naghihrap ang Pinoy katulad mo dahil walang utak, barumbado at bastos pa katulad ni Celdran.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TWVIBNBHJIBKXLUC5IT2JYM5E Harry

        People that do not like his views will always consider them as insults and if he is a Christian, the house of God is open to him and there can be no trespassing. When God, the owner, did not complain then why should we?

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Hahaha di mo nakuha ano? Ang dining room ay para sa kainan. Saan ka nagdudumi sa kusina, dining room o sa proper room? Di kahit saan at sana nakuha mo na para di mangangamoy bahay mo.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TWVIBNBHJIBKXLUC5IT2JYM5E Harry

        When Celdran wanted to complain to God, he can do it in any part of His House, even on the altar. God allows even sinners to desecrate Him. So let us not play God.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Ano nahigop mo? Bukas tt-eh ako sa kusina mo kasi pag aari ng Diyos ang lahat kaya may karapatan ako dahil anak ako ng Diyos.  Inom ka ng gamot mo ha?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TWVIBNBHJIBKXLUC5IT2JYM5E Harry

        Jesus is the only Son of God. What is your name? You must just be a pretender.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EAWQCV6E2OFOH2YKTTSLUOKATY Jimenez

      Ang tanga naman neto…

    • done_druff

      Ano naman ang kinalaman ng pagiging Christian mo sa Freedom of Expression? 

      Pre, narinig mo na siguro ang Libel di ba? Bawal magsalita ng hindi totoo laban sa isang tao. Freedom of expression ba kamo?!

  • Victor Magallanes

    Let us break this down:

    * Church service going on.
    * Celdran disrupted the service by shouting inside the church.
    * Celdran was charged for for violation of  Article 133 of the Revised Penal Code (Offending Religious Feelings).
    * Celdran asked forgiveness from the church and was subsequently forgiven. 
    * Case was not withdrawn.
    * Celdran was convicted by the MTC and sentenced to prison. 

    Why are there people claiming that the decision is a threat to our freedom of speech? It is not. Celdran violated a provision of the RPC and must suffer the consequences of his actions. 

    It is really amazing how people have blown this out of proportion. The court decision has not curtailed our freedom of speech nor offended our civil liberties (yes @risahontiveros:disqus , you got it wrong again, as always). 

    Criticize the church all you want. Shout to high heavens to send those all abusive priests to hell. Do it at Plaza Miranda, EDSA or wherever else you can exercise your freedom of speech. Exercise your freedom but be careful because we all know that the freedom of speech has its own limitations.

    This is also not about the separation of the church and the state. For all those crying about this, go and review your Consti 101. 

    Also, for all those who does not agree with the RPC, now is this time for you to take action. Tell your representatives and all senatorial candidates that you will not be voting for them come this elections if they will not study and revise the RPC.

    Celdran committed a felony. His act was against the people of the Philippines and not against the  Catholic Church. Therefore, he must be punished. Why is this hard to understand?

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Di sya nag “patawarin nyo po ako.”

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      dont worry, HONTIVEROS WILL NOT WIN AGAIN THIS ELECTION…

      and we shud campaign hard that this whore should not even get the top 20..

      • GreenStallion

        Tama I mislook Hontiveros opinion, she is still supporting Carlos cause for this matter. I will delete her in my list in the forthcoming May 2013 elections and change more deserving wannabe senators. I’m serious about this. Even though she is a Aquino endorse candidate & i’m a great supporter of PNOY, sorry for her. 

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        right on…as if she protects women’s rights…

      • darkempire007

        Hontiveros will win by landslide

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        talaga lang…d nga siya nanalo last 2010…haha..in ur dreams…BULOK NA BULOK YAN SI HONTIVEROS>>>i remeber her, nangangampanya pagkatapos ng disaster sa laguna, nakasakay sa army truck, pakaway kaway…goodness, misery ng mga tao, PINAGSASAMANTALAHAN…AND MORE, GAMIT ANG RESOURCES NG GOBYERNO SA KANYANG PAKILALA, NI HINDI NAMAN SIYA GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL…BULOK NA BULOK ANG AMO MO!!!!!!!!

        AT ANG YAYAYAMAN NA NG AKBAYAN

      • darkempire007

        Didnt she put you and the rest of those ignorant anti rh people in the garbage can? Yeah like people are going to vote for those puppets of the catholic church..hell no..filipinos aren that stupid anymore……the only thing the catholic priest fear tthe most is EDUCATION…

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        ganun ba…sa pagkakaalam ko 1/2 ng mga private schools sa pinas ay catholic schools…so, they fear education????lalo na ang ateneo na napaka liberal…

      • darkempire007

        Yeah look at how many from ateneo and lasalle backed the rh bill..priest can only control the poor and uneducated

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        at top 3 universities are catholic school…UP lang ang napasama

      • darkempire007

        Yeah look at la salle ant ateneo goin up against those idiot priest..

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Sa Davos  49 million pesos ang nagastos para saan? Pag balik patawarin na daw si Celdran para sa ano?

  • PlumberfromCanada

    FIRST PARAGRAPH OF THIS ARTICLE:..”President Aquino believes the leadërship of the Catholic Church should forgive activitist/tour guide Carlos Celdran….”

    NINTH PARAGRAPH OF THIS ARTICLE:…”The clergy, however, had long forgiven Celdran…..”

    So why is PNoy LAWYERING for Celdran?? Will the Church’s forgiveness AUTOMATICALLY NULLIFY or INVALIDATE the court’s decision???

    • GreenStallion

      The problem is Carlos Celdran is not sincere in his forgiveness and he still badmouth the Church after the incident, the damage was already done. Besides if the Church allows this things to happen no one will respect the Church anymore. So this is very important, we have to understand also the side of our Bishops. They just want to put things in proper perspective. Discipline, decency, good manners & right conduct seems to be remote in our actions nowadays. Thanks.

  • PlumberfromCanada

    kaano-ano ba nito si David Celdran ng ANC ??? ..may kwento na “close”yan sila ni Senator Kiko Cuneta dahil matagal silang room mates nung nasa UP Diliman pa sila??

  • NiJuSan

    Ang mga bastos.. dapat parusahan.. wala akong pakialam sa kung anumang katotohanan yang sinasabi nya… basta napaka bastos yung ginawa nya… hindi ba sya naturuan ng paggalang sa kung anumang pinaniniwalaan nya sa buhay..

    • PlumberfromCanada

      e yung nagtataray pag guest speaker siya, ano tawag mo dun???,,,forgiveness???….isang vindictive na tao, asking for forgiveness for other people???

      • NiJuSan

        kung may batas lang sana against dun.. dapat ipakulong din.. malas lang ni Celdran may batas laban dun sa ginawa nya… aanhin mo ang batas kung di naman ipapatupad..

  • Paliwaweng

    Tama ang Manila Cathedral sa pagdedemanda sa mga ‘sumasalaula’ sa simbahan at sa mga maykarapatang magpahayag ng kanilang paniniwala ayon sa nakatakdang batas.

    Ang mali, bakit tahimik ang Manila Cathedral at si arsobispo Palma sa mga kaso ng pangmomolestya, panggagahasa ng mga obispo at pari sa mga kabataang walang malay?

    Na sa halip na ituwid at parusahan ang mga nagkasala ay sila pa ang nagkakanlong at nagtatago sa mga ito? 

    Napakarami ng nagawang pagsasamantala ang mga pari na nabunyag subalit hanggang sa kasalukuyan, wala pa tayong nakikitang nakukulong.

    Higit na karumaldumal ang panggagahasa sa isang walang malay na nagtiwala sa isang nagsasabing sya ang alagad ng langit na ginagamit pa ang pangalan ng Dyos subalit higit pa syang masama sa isang demonyo.

    Where is the moral authority of the church in this case?
    Jail Celdran if you must, but bring out your pedophile priests and face justice and let them go together with Celdran. 

    In one cellar.

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      cite one example…baka narinig or nabasa mo lang dito sa post at naniwala ka naman sa mga ganyan na tsismis na marami nang molestiya…sa america meron…at nagbuo na ng commission ang papa para magkaroon ng justice dun sa mga biktima…pero dito sa pinas, sabihin mo nga kung sino…at kung may ebidensiya, kasuhan mo…

      • Paliwaweng

        “The parish priest of Tubay, Agusan del Norte, who was accused  by a 17-year-old girl of rape and other sexual abuses has been relieved of his duties and placed under the custody of his superior, a women’s group said.Atel Hijos, Gabriela spokesperson for Caraga, said they learned that Fr. Raul Cabonce of the St. Anne Parish had been reassigned to the Bishop’s Palace here by Butuan Bishop Juan de Dios Pueblos.
        He has been placed under Pueblos’ custody, Hijos said.
        But Lina Linaban, secretary general of Gabriela in Caraga, said that removing Cabonce from the Tubay parish was not enough.
        “It is not enough to transfer the erring priest to another parish where he can still violate other girls. He should be made accountable (for his acts) under the state’s laws as well as Church laws,” she said.
        Linaban said the ordeal of the victim, who was identified only as Leah, showed “that exploitation and abuse occur even in places that seem safe.” PDI August 28, 2011

      • done_druff

        Maghabla ka or kung gusto mo, magpa-LIKE ka sa facebook para mapansin yang daing mo.

        Ala ka talaga sa hulog!

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        why dont they file a case…natural naman na i aasign talaga sa ibang place para hindi maapektuhan ang mga miembros…u just imagine na hindi pinag re assign, pero alam na ng lahat na rapist siya, do u think he will still be effective…at nasa palasyo or jung saan man na lugar…anytime, pwede naman siyang arestuhan, nagtatago ba???hindi naman, dba? nalaman nga ninyo kung saan pinag re aasign…

        so, why dont u tell the victim to file a case…VERY SIMPLE…AND IT WILL BE VERY GOOD NA MAKULONG ITONG BLACK SHEEP!!!….

      • Paliwaweng

        second thing is the place where the crime was committed is immaterial. We are talking here of ‘morality standards’ that was laid by the church.

      • Paliwaweng

        “BUTUAN CITY, Philippines—Bishop Juan de Dios Pueblos confirmed Saturday that he has transferred  a parish priest in his diocese who has been accused of raping a 17-year-old girl to the Bishop’s Palace in Butuan City but declined to comment at all on the case.Word that the Rev. Raul Cabonce of the St. Anne Parish in Tubay, Agusan del Norte, had been transferred came first on Friday from the Caraga regional chapter of the women’s group Gabriela, which is assisting the girl in pursuing her charges against the priest”.“We are saddened that the crime happened within the very institution that is supposed to uphold morality. The priest exploited Leah’s trust and violated her despite her young age,” Linaban said in a statement.
        The alleged victim filed on Thursday rape, acts of lasciviousness and child abuse charges against Cabonce before the Agusan del Norte prosecutor’s office.
        She claimed that Cabonce abused her on five different occasions since September last year.
        Cabonce has repeatedly denied the allegations during radio interviews, dismissing them as “trumped–up” charges concocted by his detractors.
        He did not elaborate, saying he would answer the allegations in due time.
        Linaban said that based on the account of the victim, Cabonce had initially molested her by touching her private parts.
        “Subsequent molestations, the last one ending in rape, happened on March 3 and 14,” Linaban said.
        She said the girl “was threatened with a curse and an end to her scholarship to prevent her from telling anyone about her ordeal.”
        Linaban said Cabonce also “made sure that his guns and bladed weapon were in plain sight of Leah while he violated her in his room.”
        Despite Cabonce’s denial, Hijos said it was unlikely the girl would make up stories that would sully her reputation.
        “(She has) a strong case and sufficient evidence for Fr. Raul Cabonce’s conviction,” she said.
        Hijos told the Inquirer their group had taken custody of Leah, who “is now undergoing counseling for the severe emotional and psychological trauma resulting from Father Cabonce’s abuses.”
        “Leah was greatly affected by her traumatic experience.  She could not imagine that this could happen to her considering that she trusted the priest as a man of God,” Linaban said.
        She said Gabriela had urged Pueblos not to protect Cabonce and not cover up for the priest’s alleged misdeeds.
        “Bishop Pueblos should be an instrument of justice and equality rather than engage in a coverup to protect Father Cabonce,” Hijos said”. PDI 28th August, 2011

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        immaterial, try using placards mocking islam and enter into their mosques, tingnan natin kung immaterial talaga…

    • joshua kings

      kabayan, out of bounds yata ang post; ang isyu si celdran at ang conviction niya sa paglabag ng batas……na nararapat lang…

      • Paliwaweng

        kabayan, salamat sa comment. Ang punto ko ay tama na ikulong si Celdran. 
        Subalit tinatanong ko kung bakit ang mga kasalanan ng ibang tao ng simbahan na higit na karumaldumal ay di napaparusahan. 

        Eto kabayan, basahin mo:

        “BUTUAN CITY, Philippines—Bishop Juan de Dios Pueblos confirmed Saturday that he has transferred  a parish priest in his diocese who has been accused of raping a 17-year-old girl to the Bishop’s Palace in Butuan City but declined to comment at all on the case.Word that the Rev. Raul Cabonce of the St. Anne Parish in Tubay, Agusan del Norte, had been transferred came first on Friday from the Caraga regional chapter of the women’s group Gabriela, which is assisting the girl in pursuing her charges against the priest”.“We are saddened that the crime happened within the very institution that is supposed to uphold morality. The priest exploited Leah’s trust and violated her despite her young age,” Linaban said in a statement.
        The alleged victim filed on Thursday rape, acts of lasciviousness and child abuse charges against Cabonce before the Agusan del Norte prosecutor’s office.
        She claimed that Cabonce abused her on five different occasions since September last year.
        Cabonce has repeatedly denied the allegations during radio interviews, dismissing them as “trumped–up” charges concocted by his detractors.
        He did not elaborate, saying he would answer the allegations in due time.
        Linaban said that based on the account of the victim, Cabonce had initially molested her by touching her private parts.
        “Subsequent molestations, the last one ending in rape, happened on March 3 and 14,” Linaban said.
        She said the girl “was threatened with a curse and an end to her scholarship to prevent her from telling anyone about her ordeal.”
        Linaban said Cabonce also “made sure that his guns and bladed weapon were in plain sight of Leah while he violated her in his room.”
        Despite Cabonce’s denial, Hijos said it was unlikely the girl would make up stories that would sully her reputation.
        “(She has) a strong case and sufficient evidence for Fr. Raul Cabonce’s conviction,” she said.
        Hijos told the Inquirer their group had taken custody of Leah, who “is now undergoing counseling for the severe emotional and psychological trauma resulting from Father Cabonce’s abuses.”
        “Leah was greatly affected by her traumatic experience.  She could not imagine that this could happen to her considering that she trusted the priest as a man of God,” Linaban said.
        She said Gabriela had urged Pueblos not to protect Cabonce and not cover up for the priest’s alleged misdeeds.
        “Bishop Pueblos should be an instrument of justice and equality rather than engage in a coverup to protect Father Cabonce,” Hijos said”. PDI 28th August, 2011

      • Jerry De Jesus

        “The alleged victim filed on Thursday rape, acts of lasciviousness and child abuse charges against Cabonce before the Agusan del Norte prosecutor’s office.” So what is your problem? The case has been filed. Let the law take care of this issue. Maybe you forgot that an accused is innocent unless proven guilty.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        This case will suffer ten long delayed yrs. ,

        not one month like the Celdran case.

        This is already fishy !

      • GreenStallion

        Sometimes the report of the media are not factual and one sided only. It happens many times. We have to listen, research further to the other side of the coin before we conclude. Although if this is true, the Church shouldn’t hide it nor protect. I believe the priest should pay the price of his mistakes if he has proven guilty.  

    • Alajero

      …paliwaweng … you are barking on the wrong tree…let the police or authorities pursue the pedophiles…not the catholic church…

    • GreenStallion

      Can you name who this priests are and make sure you have a strong evidence not just heresy? 

      • Paliwaweng

        maybe you mean hearsay not heresy. 
        hearsay means ‘sabi nila hehehe 
        whereas heresy is one crime imputed to Galileo when he belied one church’s dogma
        heresy |ˈherəsē|noun ( pl. -sies)belief or opinion contrary to orthodox religious (esp. Christian) doctrine: Huss was burned for heresy | the doctrine was denounced as a heresy by thepope.• opinion profoundly at odds with what is generally accepted : cuttingcapital gains taxes is heresy | the politician’s heresies became the conventional wisdom of the day.

  • Da .

    our freedom is not without responsibility, it should not violate others as well.
    before we write something here and take side, let us try to put ourselves on each position so that we may be fair in our opinion.  more power to everyone!

    • GreenStallion

      Absolutely correct! Mabuhay ka.

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Sabi ni Hesus: Bigay kay Cesar ang para kay Cesar, bigay sa Diyos ang para sa Diyos. Kaya ibigay ang jail kay Celdran at ang simbhan sa mga nagsisimba. In fairness di ba?

    • Track Wander

      Please do not use the Words from the Bible specially in the wrong context.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

    Kunwari pa si penoy na against sa methodology ni Celdran, pero sa pahayayag nya, gusto talaga nya ng komtrontasyon vs sa simbahan. Kaya naman hala blog ang mga alagad ni manalo, soriano, quiboloy, almeda, abunda.

    • GreenStallion

      Hehe bakit kasali naman dito si Manalo, Soriano, etc. In fairness to them let’s not drag them into the issue. I’m a Roman Catholic and I respect religious views. I’m Anti-RH but tapos na it was putted into law we have to move on & see if it is worth the cause by pro-RH. Only history will tell. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

        hindi si manalo, soriano, etc, kundi, “ang mga alagad ni manalo, soriano, etc”.

  • FelixSoriano

     It’s Celdran’s fault.  He is free all the time to voice out his
    mind…but please don’t do it in the church. pwede sa labas lang. halata
    kasi ang intention eh! Mapalad ka Celdran for doing it inside a
    Catholic cathedral; kung ginawa mo pa yan sa isang mosque ewan ko sa
    ‘yo! Di ba mapalad!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TWVIBNBHJIBKXLUC5IT2JYM5E Harry

      Your Church is also his Church.

    • GreenStallion

      Precisely, the Catholic priests are more human & civil compared to other denominations. If its their Church you have blasted, naturally they would resort to things that are sometimes unchristian. A tooth for a tooth. It’s the core of our faith you have messed up, your going beyond don’t push the limit Carlos Celdran. Hindi lang ikaw ang tao dito sa mundo.

  • Victor Carl

    unorthodox? Irreverent i should say.

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Translation: nambastos

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YLSYZD6BCTXF6KWR4V3BQRM2LU Anita Tamayo

    Punishing someone for an offense is a different act from reaping forgiveness. Celdran should not be receiving this much media mileage for what he did. We are a Catholic country for one, and what he did is punishable under our Revised Penal Code. He deserves it. 

    • panhase

      What, you are saying we are a Catholic country? Did you not look into the constitution lately?

  • http://www.facebook.com/gerry.mendez.923 Gerry Mendez

    Apparently, the reported child molestation by the priests and the cover-up by the bishops and cardinals are not offensive to the religious feelings of the catholic church.  But Mr. Celdrans exercise of his rights of free expression is offensive.  You may not agree with what Mr. Celdran did.  But for the bishops to exercise such unforgiving stance against such minor act, coming from a sect who seeks understanding for the molestation committed by its flock and the subsequent cover up, is the highest for of hypocrisy.

    • Alajero

      ..gerry mendez…celdran cross the line by being disrespectful to the people who want to exercise their religious freedom…liberal as we are ..there are things that are sacred…we should set an example of Celdran…let celdran rot in jail for a while to calm him down and teach him a lesson…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        ha yop ka damaso wag mo hawakan ang gobyerno sa leeg napakalakas mo kay lord demonyo ka! jesuits put celdran in jail pakialamero ka damaso salot! SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO!! CBCP BISHOPS SALOT gus2 mag parami ng batang hubo!

      • boldyak

         Article 133 of the Revised Penal Code….basahin mo na lang…

      • Alajero

        …ed mendoza…ga go ka pala…hindi ako si damaso..so kaya kong bumaba sa level mo…huwag mo akong kinakana..sa kabastusan mo…

    • done_druff

      Really a cover-up? So tell me, when somebody violated the right of the Church or the clergy and they go to court, that a cover-up?

      For you it’s minor, yes, and saying “Bomba” in the airport is also minor. But you will land in jail!!!

      Yeah yeah… the bishops are unforgiving. How many times we saw the CBCP dragged into a quagmire because of inaccurate reports in the media. Did these bishops sue anybody in court?

      Stunts like these, especially when homo DOES NOT ask for forgiveness, what forgiveness are we talking here?!

      Call invectives you want the clergy. The fact remains that they enjoy the protection of this land being citizens and that whoever violated their rights, same you and me, will have justice in court!

    • GreenStallion

      Its out of the topic-child molestation. We are talking here of Carlos Celdran, lets deal with him. And who is that priest molester you are talking about? Do you have proof? Don’t use blackmail as a means of changing the issue.

  • Andres_Bagumbayan

    Karapatan ng bawat tao o institusyon ang magreklamo kung pakiwari niya siya ay nabastos o naapi….

    • NiJuSan

      pero hindi sa kahit anong paraan.. may hangganan din..

      • Andres_Bagumbayan

        Tulad ng ginawa ni Celdran,inilabas niya ang kanyang reklamo sa pamamagitan ng protesta…ganuon din ng kaparian.lamang ay sa legal na pamamaraan ang tinahak ng kaparian…Lahat ay may karapatan magreklamo o maglabas ng sama ng loob huwag lamang hahantong sa pisikal na pananakit!!!

  • wakats

    PNoy is threading on unchartered waters if he dipped his finger on the celdran case.

    Damaso’s lawyer is reportedly appealing the RTC decision based on the 1987 Constitution guaranteeing freedom of speech.

    The RTC decision is based on Sec. 4, Article 133 of the vintage Revised Penal Code for crimes against religious worship.  

    Let the due process of law runs its natural course. 

    • done_druff

      Ayan ang mahirap kay Noynoy, nakabukas kasi ang bibig lagi kaya hindi mapigilang magsalita!

      Siguro may relation sila si Carlita!

  • Alajero

    …celdran should stay in jail…we should not condone religious intolerance…it is the law…and he does not deserve aquino’s pardon…even if he might have work for him…and his akbayan surrogates…

  • Yudi Puga

    Violation of the Revised Penal Code= Punishment. Simple. What is the fuss all about?

  • Jerry De Jesus

    Here we go again. This matter is very simple. Why are people making this complicated? Celdran violated the law, therefore he must face the consequences. Is he a minor that he will be exempted from punishment? 

    • GreenStallion

      Well said sir. That’s the problem in our society today especially us Filipinos parang may mali sa ating panindigan minsan. I’m not saying Carlos will not air his concerns but he should put it in a proper forum.

  • Penoy

    mr. president. is there somebody from malacañang who influenced you to seek forgiveness for celdran? ang lakas naman niya, presidente pa na pilipinas ang humihingi ng paumanhin para sa kanya.  sino kaya sa malacañang….. o kaya baka isa sa mga kapatid niya…. o kabarilan….. o kabaro niya….. just asking….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    ha yop ka damaso wag mo hawakan ang gobyerno sa leeg si celdran ay bayani nag sasabi lang siya ng 22o jesuits put celdran in jail cbcp bishops gus2 mag parami ng batang hubo akala pinas poultry ng mga batang hubo ha yop ka!! bishop oscar cruz muka kang pera tinapalan ka ni corona SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO SALOT!!

    • PlumberfromCanada

      CARNIVAL TAGLE???? baka CARDINAL Tagle ibig mo sabihin..think before you click….

    • Penoy

      god bless you mr. edgardo mendoza.masyadong marumi ang dila mo…

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Papa ko yan di uminom ng gamot kasi.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1276723024 Maureen Rauto

    Since the 18th Century the church has been meddling in our Government when it shouldn’t be. There should be changes in the Constitution in the first place. If we wanted to comment about how the Government and The Church being run then we should have the freedom to do so. Our taxes our donations run their system, right? Why won’t they make us talk. Or at least listen to our opinions. Celdran just expressed his words. If you are offended “Bato bato sa langit tamaan wag magalit.”

    • done_druff

      Meddling… Ano ba ang meddling dyan? Kung ang desisyon eh pabor sa Simbahan, meddling yan. Kung desisyon is HINDI pabor sa Simbahan, yan ang hustiya!

      Up until now, you can’t get over with the separation of Church and State. I guess you are only picking up those ideas that only suits your taste!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XCVTR7UEL324INPXQGQV47V6HY Bewareiftheworldagreeswithyou

    HOY PENOY! The Court is the government’s court! Anong magagawa ng simbahan jan? Should the church tell the court not to convict Celdran. Akala ko may separation of Church and state. Let the court of the Philippines decide. The church has forgiven Celdran a long time ago.

    • Bisdak_kaayo

      Ironically when the Priest commits child abuse they invoke on the word forgiveness pero kapag sila na ang na Biktima na wala na ang salitang forgiveness. mga epokrito.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/O7IV2VSM5DP5NLD4HGYVQ62N54 Cesar

    LOL. This issue has become a joke. A petty felony deserving the president’s attention? Spare us please.

    • done_druff

      Magsiyuta si Ngoyngoy at Celdran!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002207384387 Andrei Mendoza

      hahaha.. sige na, bastusin mo ang ibang relihiyon na hindi mo kinasasapian, tignan ko lang kung hindi ka mungal-ngal na parang bata sa kulungan, at baka pati invisible sky-daddy mo eh hanapin mo at hindi lang ang presidente. hahahaha

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/O7IV2VSM5DP5NLD4HGYVQ62N54 Cesar

    Have you used your brains (if you know how to) lately Maureen? 

  • GreenStallion

    Para hindi pamarisan si Damaso a.k.a Carlos Celdran hayaan nalang siya sa kulungan total sandali lang naman din ang itatagal nya. Huwag natin lituhin ang tao kung ano ang tama o mali, please lang Mr. President. I believe in your good governance, don’t go beyond what is not essential. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XCVTR7UEL324INPXQGQV47V6HY Bewareiftheworldagreeswithyou

    Penoy talag utak ni Pnoy.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/O7IV2VSM5DP5NLD4HGYVQ62N54 Cesar

    Isa pa to. Lahat ng maalalang salita, puro masama. Sige nga, subukan mong isigaw yan kung may misa. Sama ka kay Celdran. Ba’t di mo maintindihan na ang isyu dito ay di ang simbahan kundi ang batas na nilabag ni Celdran. O sadyang di ka marunong umintindi? 

  • Penoy

    ok na ok ang posing ni celdran ah.. parang totoo.. hehehe

    (hoy celdran… ayan gusto mo ng ganyang picture taking.. o di malapit ng maging totoo… COMING SOON~.. hehehe…)

  • prince_janus

    Abnoy ka talaga PNOY. Hayaan mo na gugulong ang batas kay Celdran para di na pamarisan. Dumadami ang bastos sa Pilipinas. Gusto mo ba na ikaw ay bastusin na rin?

  • PlumberfromCanada

    ang lakas naman ni Carlita….Presidente pa abogado niya….hay mga charot…..

  • CrispinBasilio

    Hahaha!Si Damaso na naman. Sumigaw kayo na pa alisin na ang mga DAMASO. Subalit huwag kalimutan, gawin ito sa tamang lugar at panahon. Di naman ibig sabihin na kesyo meron tayong karapatan sa malayang pamamahayag, kaya nating sabihin ang kahit ano sa kahit saang lugar. May hangganan din ang ating karapatan na yan. 

    Nilabag ni Celdran ang ating batas. Bakit maraming tao ang ayaw siyang parusahan? Eto na ba ang uso ngayon? Nakakatawa talaga ang panahon. 

    Ay, teka, tawag na kami ng nanay ko. Nakigamit lang kami ng net ni Damaso.

  • JustWords811

    damaso celdran for senator!! o presidente na kaya??

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002207384387 Andrei Mendoza

    ““We can only love and forgive but the decision of the court is its verdict on the matter … we just say amen to the decision,” said Palma.”

    let’s give palma a good round of applause for being a good christian! Mr. palma, how very christian of you to say “amen to the decision”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002207384387 Andrei Mendoza

    calling all christians…

    give yourself a good pat on your back for persecuting celdran. you are all wonderful christians, a truly christian.

    “I like your christ, I do not like your christians, your christians are so unlike christ” 

    — Mahatma Gandhi

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       To forgive is Christian? To attack is more Christian?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002207384387 Andrei Mendoza

        oh yeah, a christians would not be a truly christian if they dont persecute other beliefs, the lesbians, the gays, etc…etc.. you would not be a christian if you don’t have any hatred, a christian must have every hatred he can muster in his heart towards others who don’t share their beliefs. hahahaha.

  • daniboy2012

    pasayawin ng gangnam style hubo’t hubad sa harap ng mga pare….forgiven nayan!!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    ha yop ka damaso! wag mo hawakan ang gobyerno sa leeg si celdran ay nag sasabi ng tutoo jesuits put celdran in jail we just say amen to the decision lakas mo kay lord bishop palma SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO!! CBCP BISHOPS SALOT gus2 mag parami ng batang hubo INAMO BISHOPS

  • AlexanderAmproz

    A typhoon in a glass of water !

    It show the Clergy and the court have time to waste

    One advantage, it was a loudspeaker for Celdran just cause,

    thank’s the Clergy intolerance and stubbornness !

    To throw peoples in jail has nothing to do with the Church duty,

    the opposite is, — IRONICALLY —,

    they do it for themselves all the time to avoid shameful smelly scandals

    • Komen To

      Get your facts straight

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002207384387 Andrei Mendoza

        he just did, and you didn’t understand a single line of his rhetoric. hahahahahaha

      • AlexanderAmproz

        First of all Jesus is Love, god forgive !

        The Church job is to avoid others sufferances

        supposedly with self sacrifice in case of need.

        I don’t think Mother Theresa threw anybody in jail !

        She was leading by showing the Jesus way, 

        an unknown notion by the Damaso style Philippines Clergy,

        who is a Politician trustful dancing partner, GMA show it too much.

        So many Priests are rapist and child molester,

        according to the laws it deserve long time jail terms.

        Did you know how many convicts are Priest ?

        Almost none, why ?

        Clergy protection and intrigues, corrupt and influenced Judges,

        media intimidations and journalist self censure.

        The Clergy is as shameful than the politician are, no Dignity at all.

        Both of them are a bunch of criminals, always looking to take advantages,

        a deeply rooted tradition of greed and abuses as moral values philosophy.

        Injected in the Philippines society by the Spanish Clergy since Magellan.

        What did Celdran was an innocent joke comparing to the Clergy behavior.

  • Meow Ming

    Since the bishops had already forgiven Celdran but still they want the law and justice to take its course. Then perhaps they wont  mind if the president will also use his prerogative power given to him by law to pardon Celdran.

    “All is well”

    • boldyak

      Now we have a president who want the implementation of the law be disregarded……susss ginoo

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Ironically when the Priest commits child abuse they invoke on the word forgiveness pero kapag sila na ang na Biktima na wala na ang salitang forgiveness. mga epokrito.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FZSQ6LC7KG4JMV5YBYGRYBBQT4 Noname

    If Celdran Damaso is after Freedom of Speech, now he can say what he wants to say…in the jail.

  • http://twitter.com/LokalBrownies vin reyes

    may nilabag na batas..ang problema panahon pa raw ng kastila ang batas na nilabag nya at hindi na napapanahon..kaya mo yan mahigit 2 months lang naman yata bakasyon mo sa loob eh..masyado ka kasing maangas kala mo kung sino kang magaling sana matuto kang ilagay sa lugar ang karapatang hawak mo..sana kunin ka na ni lord..hehe pati bahay nya dinadamay mo..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      di bahay ni lord yun bahay ni satanas carnival tagle damaso! salot cbcp bishops gu2 mag parami ng batang hubo!

      • Penoy

         SINO BA MGA MAGULANG MO??? BAKIT PARANG PWET ANG BIBIG MO AT PINALAKI KANG MARUMI ANG DILA MO…

      • Komen To

        Take on the issue. The court penalized Celdran, whom the Catholic church has already forgiven

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Papa ko!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    HAYOP KA DAMASO WAG MO HAWAKAN ANG GOBYERNO SA LEEG  JESUITS PUT CELDRAN IN JAIL CBCP BISHOPS SALOT GUS2 MAG PARAMI NG BATANG HUBO PWE!

    • Penoy

      EDGARDO MENDOZA = EVIL = SATANAS….

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO GUS2 MAG PARAMI NG BATANG HUBO SALOT SI CELDRAN AY TUNAY NA PILIPINO NAG SASABI SIYA NG 220

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Inom ka gamot Papa!

      • done_druff

        Baka kulang ang pag-inom ng gamot… Injection na yan!

    • Komen To

      You are a disgrace to your affiliated religion. May God forgive you

    • NiJuSan

      para ka namang naka 5110.. puro capslock… 

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Papa!

    • done_druff

      Daming mong demonyo sa utak mo! Easy lang brod. Siguro breaktime mo sa Nueve de Febrero ano?!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/O7JAAQHVU55JZDVG6Z35FCQLKY John

      Haywood ka edgardo Mendoza fukinenam! Matay kanto met Laeng impierno papa am ukininam

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      andito na naman si born againsts…

  • Meow Ming

    Jesus was persecuted and crucified because He hurt the feelings of the Pharisees.

    Will Pnoy give him pardon or wash his hands?

    All is well, Mr Celdran

  • virgoyap

    What Celdran has done, whether it’s right or wrong, is not only irreversible but it’s also historic. What he did, though it’s odd and unexpected and for some, irreverent will be considered as a kind of protest that will live forever.

    • done_druff

      True! I totally agree! 

      But for you, what memory would you like the future generation will know about what you did?

      • virgoyap

        NONE.

  • Komen To

    The President has the presidential pardon at his disposal, so why make a big fuzz? It’s the law. But a pardon from the president doesn’t make the act right, nor the perpetrator a saint.

  • disqusted0fu

    Is Celdran a KKK? Why is Pnoy seeking for his freedom despite him being guilty? Pnoy only does that for his KKKs.

    Why does Pnoy seek freedom for the ones who are proven guilty? Then he tries so hard to convict the ones who have not been proven? What goes on in his head?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    JESUITS PUT CELDRAN IN JAIL AMEN! PAKIALAMERO SIMBAHAN DAMASO SALOT GUS2 MAG PARAMI NG BATANG HUBO ANO AKALA NIYA SA PINAS POLTRY NG MGA BATA SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO WAG MO HAWAKAN SA LEEG ANG GOBYERNO SALOT!

    • done_druff

      Hoy kung hindi nakialam ang simbahan nung 1986, patay si Ernile, Honasan, at Ramos!

      Kala mo pwede kay Marcos itong pagpuputak mo?! Yari ka don! 

      Kaya pasalamat ka kahit papaano.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/O7JAAQHVU55JZDVG6Z35FCQLKY John

      Edgardo Mendoza shut ur fuc ng mouth u don’t know what ur talking about! Tindi galit mo sa catholic a satanista ka kasi moron

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Bagong pangalan natin:

    Republika ng Bastos Pilipinas.

    Iboto si Celdran!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

      Ibato o iboto? hehe

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Wag na ibato maawa ka naman. Sisikat tayo magiging first bastos president sya sa mundo.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    REPUBLIKA NG IMPOKRITO BANSA NG PILIPINAS DAHIL SA SALOT NA OBISPO!

    • done_druff

      Aba nakagamot ka na ngayon ah at buhay-buhay ka! Easy lang at baka maraming demonyo sa utak mo kaya galit na galit ka!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

    Celdran deserves the verdict and the penalty……Good for him….

    Pnoy seeking forgiveness for a KKK (kabaro? o kakulay? take your pick….hehe) is uncalled for….

    • Bisdak_kaayo

      Ironically when the Priest commits child abuse they invoke on the word forgiveness pero kapag sila na ang na Biktima na wala na ang salitang forgiveness. mga epokrito.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        generalization is typical to born-againsts and anti-catholics…..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

    Bitaying ang mga bading tulad ni Edgardo Mendoza na may HIV!!!! ikulong na yan bading na Celdran na yan

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      ikulong ang mga obispo salot na gus2 mag parami ng batang hubo ikulong cbcp bishops salot sa pilipinas satanas carnival tagle damaso! damaso wag mo hawakan sa leeg ang gobyerno lumayo ka dyablo!

  • Bisdak_kaayo

    Ironically when the Priest commits child abuse they invoke on the word forgiveness pero kapag sila na ang na Biktima na wala na ang salitang forgiveness. mga epokrito.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

      hold your horses…..you will never know that these bishops will indeed forgive this self-righteous activist. But in the meantime, let him serve first his penalty inside prison cell…

      • done_druff

        Tama Bert!  This is justice! 

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Hay naku poh, if they have forgiven him they should have dropped the case. mga epokrito.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        hay naku poh ka rin…..ibig mo bang sabihin na kung pinatawad ng simbahan si Celdran ay obligado na rin ang gobyerno to drop the case? Separation of Church and State, anyone? Nagkasala nga sya under Philippine law eh? 

    • done_druff

      What is ironic there? Child abuse is a crime. Idemanda iyang mga child abuser kasi sino pa man sya!

      Baket hindi ka ba nanghihingi ng forgiveness? Eh epokrito ka rin pala eh!

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Idemanda mo. May pera ka? Bigyan kita.

      • done_druff

        May pera ako pero hindi ako magdedemanda. Sayang pera ko!

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Ahem, they avoid being imprisoned because they invoke on the word forgiveness and offer money for compensation.  Iyan ang kadalasang nangyayari huwag kang magpatawa.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        and if the offending priest is not imprisoned because he asked for forgiveness and he was forgiven, kasalanan ba nya yan? Si Celdran, humingi ba ng tawad? Di pa nga eh……  

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        bakit saan ba nangaral si CRISTO na humingi lang ng tawad ang patawarin? saan ba sinabi sa biblia na ihabla at ipakulong ang nagkasala sa kung hindi siya humingi ng tawad. Nagpapatawa ka ba?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        Madali lang naman magpatawad, and i’m sure the church can easily do that…..but serving his term in prison for violating the law is another thing…

      • teekaye2

         Any Priest who sexually abuses a child IS NOT A  CHRISTIAN

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

      bading! HIV carier ka! ulpong! anung forgive forgive walang forgiveness sa BATAS alam mo ba yon bbo

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        excuse me hindi batas ang issue rito. Ang issue ko rito ay yung pangangaral nila ng FORGIVENESS KUNO applicable lang kung sila ang nagkasala.

        mga epokrito.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        may utak ka ba? lumabag nga sa batas eh BATAS! kaya makukulong dahil lumabag sa BATAS! bbo mo mag suicide ka na lang sayang lang ang hangin sa kabbhan mo! 

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        epokrito ka. panay pasok mo sa simbahan, panay dasal, hindi mo pala naintidihan yung pangangaral nilang forgiveness.  Walang silbi ang pagsimba mo.  Mas bobo ka.  You are in the church for attendance.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        Bbo! forgiveness eh sasabihin lang yun forgive pero lumabag padin sa batas kailangan makulong BBO! Bading ka! GGO PTA mo

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        ikaw ang bobo and since when nangaral ang biblia na ihabla at ipakulong ang tao.  huwag ka ng magsimba epokrito.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        Batas ba ang bibliya! san planeta ka ba nakatira BBO mo! GGO 

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Well, I am a first world citizen ikaw? Saang imburnal ka ba gumagapang?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        First word citizen anung klase yun? may utak ka ba talaga? 

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Of course ginagamit ko ang common hindi ako pumapasok ng simabahan just to show attendance.  That is enough proof may utak ako. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        owwss, generalization again? How can that be that when many born-againsts kept on bombarding the church with false below the belt accusations, these bishops and priests are always ready to forgive you?   

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        forgive patawa ka ba? bakit hindi na drop ang kaso kung nag forgive pa? where is the common sense?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        The answer to this question is common sense: Humingi na ba ng tawad yang palangga mong si Celdran?

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Dapat naman maparusahan ang nagkakasala. Ano ang problema mo? Di naman humihingi na abswelto kung nagkasala ah. Born-against ka o Pro-testistante?

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Bakit majority ba ng mga paring nangmolestya nakulong ba? naparusahan ba?  O dinaan lang sa arreglo? At linipat ng parokya?

        huwag kang magpatawa.  talking about punishment. because most of the priests evade punishment for their crimes.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        e d pakulong mo idemenda mo kaya hindi nakukulong dahil walang demanda! ang hina ng kokote mo 

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        At bakit pa sila nangangaral ng salitang forgiveness gayong hindi mo ito naintindihan mismo.  Bakit ka ba naniniwala sa kanila gayong you do not understand the word forgiveness they are preaching.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        forgiveness ay nasa tao iba naman ang batas! walang forgiveness sa batas dapat sundin ang batas, kung ano ipapataw ng batas yun na yun. 

        eh di lahat ng kriminal patawarin na kung ganyan lang!!! bbo mo 

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        ikaw ang bobo. Ang issue ay yung pagkukunwaring pangangaral ng FORGIVENESS wala akong issue sa batas.  I hate hypocrisy

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        walang Forgiveness forgiveness sa batas ggo! BBo mo! 

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        sad to hear yang simbahan mo nangangaral pala na ihabala at ipakulong ang tao. epokrito.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        Oo talaga kung kriminal kailangan makulong anu bayang simbahan mo simbahan ng mga rapist at bading kaya ayaw makulong?

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        ang simbahan mo maraming record na ganyan. Child molesting priests, kabaro mo sila

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/O7JAAQHVU55JZDVG6Z35FCQLKY John

        Bisdak tindi Galit mo sa mga Pari a! Bading ka kasi lamag

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Baka ikaw ang bading. Pinagtanggol mo ang mga epokrito child molesters na bading.  Natural you are defending your kabaro.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        ikaw ang bading! bakit mo pagtatanggol ang kriminal na si Celdran kung hindi ka bading! bading ka ggo aminin mo na!!! pta mo

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        kaw ang bobo and since when nangaral ang biblia na ihabla at ipakulong ang tao.  huwag ka ng magsimba epokrito.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        pta in/a mo! 

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        magsotana ka na rin at mangaral ng forgiveness

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        owwwss, do you have figures to prove your claim that majority ng mga paring nangmolestya ay hindi nakulong o naparusahan?  O dinaan lang sa arreglo? At linipat ng parokya?

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        i can cite one, yung paring nakasuhan ng ivory smuggling sa cebu, did you know may issue siya sa US before he came back to the philippines.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        and that one case is “majority”? Is that how a born-against thinks?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/O7JAAQHVU55JZDVG6Z35FCQLKY John

      I kaw malinis ka ba! Ipukol mo unang bato gaga!

      • Ricky Bobby

        baduy mo bro.. “ipukol mo unang bato” haha..

        ako di ako nagmamalinis pero wala akong kasalanan na kasing bigat nang pag corrupt nang utak at molest nang bata.Kung sa pagka linis lang.. masmalinis pa ang simpleng child molester kesa sa paring child molester!..

  • Andres_Bagumbayan

    Pati ba naman si celdran ay pinag-uukulan ng panahon ng Pangulo…Talaga yatang nasa dugo na ng pamilya Aquino ang SHOWBIZ…Mahilig sa mga anik-anik na pangyayari!!!

    • done_druff

      eh MAGSIYUTA ata sila?!

  • AlexanderAmproz

    Most of the comments below are showing

    how frustrated, intolerant and violent is the Philippines society

    for the smallest thinks while forgiving and forgetting the worst

    committed by the powerful, even admiring and respecting it, 

    a XVI century colonial slaves, short brain coward and memory attitude, 

    that why Celdran innocent provocative performance was a shock

    a XXI century Democratic attitude, obviously the Philippines is really a backward place.

    Celdran saga is a wake up call for Philippines Forward !

    • done_druff

      Ano daw?

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Ano raw?

    • done_druff

      Uy nagedit sya… Ah eh… ano daw ulit?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

      what? are you a JeJemon? 

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Google . . . translation . . .

      Di pa “up today timing” ang translation technology nila :)

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Sorry for my English, I learned it carelessly in the Philippines Calenderia’s, Jeepney’s roofs tops in Mindanao and Mountain Provinces.
        A Carabao English, just enough to communicate… 

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Ok.

    • Gabriel

      innocent performace? if he posted it at the residence of the priest i wouldnt react, but to do during a mass is insulting not only the clergy but also those who attended it.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Priests residences are for other “business” lol

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        have you been there?

    • Pitbulldog

      His conviction and jail term is too tame in Muslim standards.  Try to offend their religion and you will end up tortured and dead long before you reach the courts.  Dito, pinapasikat pa ng Ogag na pangulo and mga yan…

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Why comparing with Muslim ?

        Philippines is the World unique Christian Plutocracy Theocratic.

        It will have be more realistic to compare it with the country recent Inquisition times

      • Pitbulldog

        I just want to impress upon you that Catholics are a bit lenient over insults against their faith.  In Abu Dhabi not so long ago, one Ogag Pinoy expat was ganged up and beaten to death by overzealous Pakistanis when he poked fun at their religion by sarcastically imitating the Imam’s prayers over  the mosque sound system during the afternoon Salah.  And you think Celdran’s conviction is harsh?  Better think again….

      • AlexanderAmproz

        I don’t think its harsh, 
        its just a ridiculous typhoon in a glass of water.

        What is shocking is Jail term for that, when so many known high flight criminal and killers are scott free while provoking the society, Palparan, Marcos family(10 Billions US$ only) and so many Damaso’s…

        Its show also the Court and Clergy have time to wast for peanuts to avoid their urgent duty task.

        The Clergy irritation is showing that Damaso is still fashion among them.

        In the near future the actual religions from “The Book” are not anymore accurate, they will vanished from the developed World. 

        Pakistan and the Philippines are belonging to the backward places. 
        Philippines religious processions are amazingly outdated.

        Amsterdam Cathedral was turn into an exhibit center so long time ago, compare to it the Philippines looking like an Alien World, a trip in the past, 300 yrs. ago without any evolutions.

        Its funny on one aspect, tragic on the other, particulary when considering the backwardness consequences, could be counted in children’s death.

      • teekaye2

         Two wrongs do not make a right

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

    kaya wala ng pagasa ang Pilipinas dahil ang daming BBO, lumabag sa batas ngayon ayaw ipakulong dahil kabaro nilang bading, eh baket ginawa pa ang batas kung hindi naman pala susundin! 

    • done_druff

      Ayaw nilang ipatupad dahil mawawasak “behind” ni Celdran sa CJ…

      Naligo na nga mga ka-kosa nya at nag-ahit na rin… Balita ko nga yung iba nagpa-wax na rin!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

    Bisdak_kaayo ikaw na ang kampyon ang KBBHAN! kelan pa naging batas ang BIBLIYA! ipakulong na yang bading na yan!!!! no forgiveness to unrepentant pig

    • Bisdak_kaayo

      Bwahaha, batas ng Diyos ang Biblia, batas pa rin. Gunggong. Di ba ginagamit ito ng mga paborito mong pari?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        PT 1 n a mo! hindi batas ang Bibliya BBO 

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Well that’s your opinion, bakit ba ginagamit iyan ng mga paring pinagtatanggol mo, hindi naman pala iyan batas?  patawa ka talaga.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        alam mo ba ang batas sa Pilipinas? nakapag aral ka ba gunggong! 

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        ay akala ko ba batas lang, ngayon may karugtong na batas ng pilipinas.  Kanino bang batas ang forgiveness na pinag uusapan natin? Batas ba ng pilipinas ang Forgiveness? patawa ka talaga.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        eh GGO ka pala eh sabi mo forgiveness tapos hindi na kukulong GGO, lumabag sa BATAS kailangan ikulong! BBO 

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Ano ba problema mo? Magpari ka na rin kaya?

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    pipilahan si celdran sa bilibid…

    kaya pala ang mga pictures niya ay nasa behind bars…love na love niyang makulong kasi madaming lalaki sa loob…

    • Bisdak_kaayo

      sabagay, iyan rin ang gusto ng mga pari give their own kind his happiness.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        alam na alam mo ha…..hehe

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        and you are very cognizant. why? reminiscent of your past?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        and you are not just much more cognizant looking at your above posts. why? you’re currently at it? hehe

  • Pitbulldog

    The next time you see this idiot, he will be campaigning with P-noy for the LP candidates.  Or he might be a candidate for LP later on…

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      sana…she/he will campaign for LP para lalong bumagsak ang LP….tingnan mo si HONTIVEROS, bagsak na…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NK45FSERDNP42R527PYPDWM6FA Cebuanodiay

    Why forgive him? He isn’t asiking for forgiveness? Nagmamayabang pang eh! He will fight daw up to the Supreme Court. So let him rot in jail until he learns to respect other people’s rights.

    • Bisdak_kaayo

      Hawak hawak ng mga pari ang biblia.  Saan ba sinabi sa biblia na ihabla at ipakulong mo ang tao kapag hindi humingi ng tawad?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        well nasa batas yon. BBO iba ang relihiyon sa batas! wag mong pagsamahin yon gunggong! 

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        patawa ka talaga. ANG FORGIVENESS wala sa batas ng tao. nasa batas ng Diyos lang.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        puwede ka ba mang habla at sabihin sa korte na nasa batas ng diyos? BBO mo tnga

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        nag-imbento ka ng kwento.  Kailan ba ginagamit ang katagang BATAS ng DIYOS sa korte? imbentor ka rin pala.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        ang kalat mong mag-isip, dong…..

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        So you are listening to the word forgiveness they are preaching, did you really understand it.  

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        Yes, I did! Did you?

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Saan sinabi sa Bibliya na mag comment ka rito?

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        ask it to yourself first.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        nope, he’s asking you….

      • done_druff

        Ala ka talaga sa hulog! 

        Sa biblia hindi bine-bless ang BBO! but pa ang “poor in spirit” and “innocent” pero ang BBO hinde!

    • Ricky Bobby

      A one year prison term would hardly rot anybody..

      It’s not “nagmamayabang” it’s about standing for what you believe in. Totally different things.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    DAMASO wag mo hawakan sa leeg ang gobyerno jesuits put celdran in jail nag sasabi ng 22o si celdran ang cbcp bishops gus2 mag parami ng batang hubo salot sa pinas satanas carnival tagle DAMASO! pilipinas bansang impokrito sa buong mundo dahil sa salot na obispo!!

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Papa umuwi ka na!

      • done_druff

        HAHAHA!

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Andito na naman di pa uminom ng gamot nya.

  • Bisdak_kaayo

    Batas ba ng Pilipinas ang Forgiveness? patawa talaga…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

    handang handa na si Carlos Celdran nag baon pa ng LOTION, hoy Bisdak_kaayo inggit kalang kay Celdran dahil madami syang boys! humada ka na sa kalye para makapagBoys ka din. hahahahaha BADING KA 

    • Bisdak_kaayo

      I know your symphaty to them dahil minsan naging sakristan ka, at minsan lumigaya ka rin kanilang mga dila sabay tusok nila sa imburnal mo.

      Ilang baso ba ng peanut butter ang lumabas sa imburnal mo ng tusukin ka nila?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        yun ang ginawa ko sa Nanay mo at kapatid mong babae! tuwang tuwa nga ang mga PTa

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        hindi po pumapatol ng bading ang nanay at kapatid ko, pero pwede ka sa baboy namin.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        itanong mo sa nanay mo at kapatid mong PTA

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        gagastos lang ako ng long distance para itanong?  Bakit hindi mo tanongin ang pari kung gaano kakapal ang peanut butter sa batuta niya?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        ganda ng mga salita mo, dong…..turo din ito ng iyong binabasang bibliya?

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Well at least i don’t have an institution that a represent. I only represent myself. I am also guilty of sins.  Mas nakakahiya kayo dahil dala niyo ang pangalan ng simbahan niyo.

  • Bisdak_kaayo

    Nagbago na daw ang aral sa simbahan. Ngayon naging aral na kung hindi hihingi ng tawad ang nagkasala sa pari, ihabla at ipakulong na daw ang nagkasala ngayon.  

    Give us an updated text of this teaching of the church please….

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

      You don’t need one….just go back and get an update from your born-against pastors, but be ready with your 10%….

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Hahaha Born-against pala? Kala Pro-testistante?

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        I am not even attending any church.  And why should ask born again pastors, i have not come across this issue from them yet.  

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        you’re asking the wrong pastor, i didn’t say born again, it’s born-against pastor….

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Whatever you call them.  And you are attending the church hearing the priests preaching the word forgivness?

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Kunyari pa daw. Di daw sya myembro.

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        kung may nagkunwari man rito ay yung panay simba, panay kinig sa aral na forgiveness ng mga pari.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Ibig  sabihin wag na magsimba at doon na sa simbahan nyo.  Huli ka! Galing mang uto para may 10%.

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        salvation is not about joining a group, it is your personal relationship with God.  Granting may grupo ako, hindi kaya mahawa ang ka meimbro ko sa kabalbalan ng forgiveness na aral niyo?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        so nag-iisa ka lang sa pananampalataya?

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        and where in the bible that says you have to be in the church building everysunday in order to be saved? In fact it says go and lock your room when you pray.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        I still believe in FORGIVENESS WITH JUSTICE. Let the church forgive Celdran but let him serve his trespasses under the law.

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        and since when the forgiveness taught in the bible become conditional and with clauses.  Nagimbento kayo ng bagong aral.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        o sige nga, turuan mo kami ng tamang turo ng forgiveness according to your own religious belief? GO!

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        the only way you will learn it is to be with a child molesting priest when he bargains that charges be dropped against him.  Thats the time you will understand forgiveness.

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        the only way you will learn it is to be with a child molesting priest when he bargains that charges be dropped against him.  Thats the time you will understand forgiveness.

      • teekaye2

         7 Days should have been more than enough penalty I think

  • marionics

    napaka high-level naman pala ng discussion dito he he he

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Sssssshhh dami Born-against dito. Nuod ka lang.

      • marionics

        talaga? sabi nila katolliko daw sila e. so, nagsisinungaling pala sila ano?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        born against ka rin?

      • marionics

        pag sinabi ko naman hindi ipipilit mong oo di ba?

      • Mendoza_Juniors

        Ewan ko makita mo ang baluktot na argumento basta anti-katoliko lang. Ako dati katoliko ngayon loko :)

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        ooops…hinay ka diyan bro…troll yan…semplang na semplang ko lagi yan, kaya galit yan si marionics sakin…at saka, born against yan…try mo yan barahin, at gagawa yan ng evasive maneuvering like, sinusundan daw siya, stalker ung mga nag rerebut sa kanya…sobrang tanga niyan brod…

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Moral Lesson: Respect and you will be respected.

    • Bisdak_kaayo

      Moral lesson. practice what you preach in order not to be accused of hypocrisy.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Nag praktis na ako. Tumakbo ako ng 1 kilometro. Ikaw nag bate ka na?

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Bakit ba kailangan akong mag bate?  Kailangan mo ba ng VANAL na TUBIG para i basbas diyan sa mukha mo?

      • Mendoza_Juniors

        Kunin mo Bibliya mo. Di nakasulat doon ang relihiyon na Born-against. 10% meron.

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        bwahaha. i dont even have any religious group.  And why should I give 10%?  And for your info not all Born again groups ask 10%.  Bakit issue ba rito ang ikapo sa paksang ito?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        defensive anti-catholic…..

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        yeah you are pro catholic thats why you dont understand the forgiveness they are preaching.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         I forgive your 10% Ok ba?

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Ikaw mahilig ka mag “accuse” pag si Celdan ayaw mo i accuse?

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Why will accuse somebody who is proven guilty? patawa ka talaga. Kailangan pa bang e accuse ang proven guilty?  And when did I say he is not proven guilty?

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Saang bahagi ng bibliya yan sinasabi mo?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        bading kase yang si Bisdak kaayo, kaya ganyan! 

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        kaya ka ganyan, panay kinig ka sa salitang forgiveness na inaaral nila. iyan ang natutunan mo sa kasi simba.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

    Bisdak_kaayo mang huthot ka nalang sa mga miyembro nyo! hahahaha 

    • Bisdak_kaayo

      sinong huthotan ko im not even in a group. Ikaw ang may grupo, ikaw ang pwedeng makagawa niyan.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        eh di ang mga miyembro ng FEDERASYON nyo! hahahaha baklitang to 

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        how soon you can forget.  ikaw ang ang naging incorporator ng FEDERASYON na iyan.  How soon you can forget you did the opening rites with the priest in the altar.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        Ganda ng argumento mo dong, turo din ito ng bibliya na binabasa mo?

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        well hindi ako nagmamalinis katulad niyo.  Human as I am also guilty of sins.   Hindi ako nag susoot ng sotana at nangaral ng forgiveness na hindi ko naman ginagawa.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        bakit, nagsuot din ba kami ng sotana? Hindi ah….at hindi rin ako nagmamalinis….pero bakit kung ikaw ang nagsasalita at nag-aakusa laban sa mga obispo, parang ang linis-linis mo? Epokrito ka rin?

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        dahil utos ng biblia erubke ang mali.  In the first place hindi naman tinitira ko kayo ang tinira ko ay ang nagsotana, bakit ka ba nag over react against me.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Kunyari pa daw. Born-against naman talaga. Ganyan ang estilo puro sola scriptura tapos puro against.

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        true i am not catholic, but it is also true that I am not going to any church. alam ko naman talaga you did not understand the forgiveness they are preaching.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        alam naman namin na ang relihiyon mo eh Kabadingan! tspa ero 

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        di ba ikaw naman talaga ang SAKRISTAN na tagapahid ng VANAL na TUBIG?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        tspa ero! hahahaha! nanay mo sarap na sarap tsmpa! hahaha 

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Huli ka na? Sige, ano namang turo ng simbahan nyo tungkol sa “forgiveness” mo?

  • joshua kings

    if celdran was not an avid pro-RH, would Pnoy intercede for him, going even to the extent of publicly speaking for him?

    • Bisdak_kaayo

      I still believe he would, given the issue is publicized.  It is more of the issue than the personality of Celdran in this case.

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Bisdak_gyud,

    Turuan mo kami ng “forgiveness” sa simbahan nyo. Lagyan mo na rin ng quotes para madali. Tenks.

    • Bisdak_kaayo

      Bago ka magtulak sa akin na ako mangaral ng forgiveness sa iba, understand it first.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

        Tuturan mo kami.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Saan na ang forgiveness at quotes mo?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

      “Forgiveness” para kay Bisdak eh forgive the Badings because they are badings! 

  • msmakabayan

    Noynoy should stay neutral as President. During his Sona, he said, he can forgive but not forget. That should hold true for everybody! Friend or foe. Sure, you can forgive Celdran…byt law is law. He has to bear the consequence of his action just like everone convicted of a crime. Be Fair, Noynoy!

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Now we understand RH was not done fairly?

    • http://www.yahoo.com JOSE RIZAL

      Good point!

  • $14141131

    Celdran was sentenced by the court. Why is he asking the Catholic church to forgive the nincompoop? Go to the court, raise your issue there, shout your heart out to amend their decision over the handsome Rizalian. Go there, Nhoynhoy! You are always barking the wrong tree ever since.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

    Bisayang BADING pala tong si Bisdak_kaayo hahahaha 

    • Bisdak_kaayo

      Oo hindi ka nga bisaya, but does that make you superior? Paano ka ba maging superior sa akin gayong yung inaaral mo sa simbahan linggo hindi mo na intidihan.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        hahaha! BISAYA ka! hahaha! chimay ang Nanay mo sa Maynila! 

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Hindi po ako katulad niyo mga mata pobre.  Taga maynila ka nga pero wala ka namang breeding. 

        epokrito na. MATA POBRE pa.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        hahaha! ikaw tspa ero! hahaha BIsoy

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        Nope, it’s not about race dong, it’s all about your fallacious arguments…..I know, bisdak is a proud race….

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        And I know tagalogs are mata pobre porket karamihan sa amin naging Chimay sa maynila.  

        Ang pagka proud niyo consequential sa pagka mata probre niyo.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Ito ang typical na born-against.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    damaso wag mo hawakan sa leeg ang gobyerno drop mo yung kaso kay celdran jesuits not 4 give nag sasabi lang si celdran ng tutoo na cbcp bishops ay gus2 mag parami ng batang hubo sa kalye akala siguro ang pilipinas ay poultry ng mga batang hubo! pinag tatawanan tayo ng mga kalapit nating bansa pilipinas daw ang impokrito bansa sa buong mundo dahil sa obispong salot! SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO BISHOPS OSCAR CRUZ MUKA KANG GALUNGGONG!

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Papa uwi ka na!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

      ikaw yata ang sugo ni SATANAS! GGO, bading dapat sa mga bading na katulad mo binibitay kadiri kang HIV carrier 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        ptttng inamo aso ka ni SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO!!

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Papa ayan na si Satany sa likod mo. Tuwing mention mo sya lundag sya sa tuwa baka kunin ka na nya?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        PTA INA MO Ggo! pta kapatid mo! DEMONYO 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        PTTTNG INAMO MAG SAMA KAYO NI MONSINYOR MO SALOT MGA IMPOKRITO KAYO WAG NINYO HAWAKAN SA LEEG ANG GOBYERNO DEMONYO CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO! SIGURO DIYOS MO SI MONSINYOR PUEBLES MUKANG MONTERO!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/XAPTOKB6LGSAVXQMUD5H2BOM3U Coco

        KASI IKAW AY LADLAD!!!! WALANG HUMAHAWAK SA LEEG BADING!!!  BOPOLS LANG ANG PAGINTINDI MO SA MGA KAGANAPAN SA PALIBOT MO. BIBIG ANG PINAPAIRAL MO AT HINDE ANG IYONG UTAK.
        WELL… BAKA KASI WALA KA NGA PALANG UTAK NA BADING KA!!!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        yan ang tinuturo sa born agianast

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/XAPTOKB6LGSAVXQMUD5H2BOM3U Coco

        bobo ka talaga!!!!!! wala kang kwenta!!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYAZBOJYIUCRLWTYJBORBVTTOI boyfarmer

         ikaw ang satanas mendoza, bu-ang ka

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

      TSUPA IN mo nalang sarili mo! hahaha 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/XAPTOKB6LGSAVXQMUD5H2BOM3U Coco

      wala kang magawa edgardo mendoza?????? baket mas malinis ka ba sa mga obispo at mga pari???? wag ka salita ng salita na hinde mo maintindihan. mangilabot ka.!!! walgn kinalaman ang mga obispo at pari dito ah. ang mali ni celdran ay ksp siya at mali ang proseso nyang ginawa. try mo gawin yan sa mga muslim kung hinde pugot ng ulo ang abot mo.
      bobo ka kasi siguro, comment ka hinde nakaintinde!!!!! masunog ka sana sa impyerno!!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYAZBOJYIUCRLWTYJBORBVTTOI boyfarmer

       ikaw mendoza ang galunggong na gunggong

  • http://www.yahoo.com JOSE RIZAL

    Exactly!

    Clueless president, indeed!

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Bisdak_gyud,
    nasaan na ang forgiveness lessons mo?

    • Bisdak_kaayo

      bakit ba ang mangaral sa inyo? pari ba ako niyo na makinig kayo sa akin? patawa talaga

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Born-against pastor ka ba? Wag ka na magkunyari. Alam ko na ang modus operandi nyo:

        1) Atake “against” katoliko (criticize to the bones)
        2) Turo ng Pro-testistante na aral na baluktot
        3) Hilain ka para sumali sa samahan
        4) Bingo: 10% na sila (tulad ni Manny Pakyaw)
        5) Gulo na buhay mo

        Tama ba Pastor Bisdak?

      • Genesis Amv’s

        lol kung maghusga ka ng religion ng iba kaala mo nasa tamang daan ang mga Katoliko

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Ano ang tamang daan? May 10% ka rin? Kaya pala panay ang banat nyo?

      • Genesis Amv’s

        10% percent karin dahil Panay Banat ka rin … magdasal kanalang sa mga manika nyo

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        how sure are you na yung nacollecta ng pari hindi ipangdatung niya? patawa ka talaga

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Pamilya ng pastor nakiki bahagi pa sa kolekta.

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        mas ok na ang ang pamilya makibahagi keysa mga kabit na lalaki.  mas masahol pa.

      • Genesis Amv’s

        mag chant ka nalang ng holy mary ng paulit ulit baka lang Matawa Ang Panginoon sa mga pinaggagagawa niyong mga katoliko….    Jesus and God the Father and God the holy Spirit is the only one that should be worship not those senseless statues or manikins

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYAZBOJYIUCRLWTYJBORBVTTOI boyfarmer

         those statues are not worshipped, they only serve as picture of the Saints that we venerate. .  . hindi nyo ma gets?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        if the CBCP’s version of forgiveness is wrong according to you, so what should be the right one? Teach us…..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

    search nyo FB page ni Bisdak_kaayo nakakatawa bading na bading!! 

    • Bisdak_kaayo

      patawa talaga ang FB ko walang picture. huwag kang magpatawa.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        bading! baklita! hahahaha katawa tawa itsura mo sarap ihampas sa pader. 

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        wala ka ngang breeding.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        parang ikaw na rin….

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        I am only a reflection of myself. But you are worst because you and your colleagues here are a reflection of the catholic church.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Si Celdran may breeding.

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        that is only your opinion.  I dont have any idea about that. What I know he is proven guilty.  Di ko na kailangang dagdagan.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    The church should stop MEDDLING in government affairs or suffer the WRATH of the People.

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Si Noy nakikialam sa other co-equal branches. Mag suffer din kaya ng wrath of the people?

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Modus Operandi ng mga Born-Against at Pro-testistante dito:

    1) Atake “against” katoliko (criticize to the bones)
    2) Pasok-Turo ng Pro-testistante na aral na baluktot (Bibliya lagi)
    3) Hilain ka para sumali sa samahan (dalaw at fellowship)
    4) Bingo: 10% na sila (tulad kay Manny Pakyaw)
    5) Gulo na buhay mo . . .

    Dami dito nagkakalat.

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Yan o, si Pastor Bisdak ayaw tumigil kahit huli na. Nanghihinayang sa 10% nya.

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        key sa totoo yang paratang mo sa 10% o hindi, hindi naman iyan pera niyo, no need to react violently.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Sayang di ba? Bistado na kayo. Sekreto ang banat. Sinisiraan ang katoliko. Di na ako katoliko pero di mo ako maloko.

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Bwahaha. anong masira sa sira na? patawa ka talaga.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Yan na! Bumanat na! Sira na daw? KAYA? Alis na kayo. Lipat na kayo! 10% na!

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        sige dala ka ng megaphone at punta ka ng perya.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Kung ayaw mo lumabas ang baho nyo na matagal ko nang alam magrespeto kayo, ok?

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        individual baho lang ang dala ko, I am not ashamed of.  Pero yung dala mo institutional na baho, reflection ng simbahan mo.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Opo Pastor Bisdak. Ang bottomline: 10%

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        bayad kada kasal, binyag at libing, your church is doing that.  Salvation is not for free. it is for a fee.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Alin ang free sa 10%?    hehehehe

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/HHVQLHXDXLNSQW6XP6H7BEFIOY Wilson J

         Pinagdasal ko na maintindihan mo ang mga pinagsasabi mo. Sa tono ng iyong salita ang pang-unawa mo ay nakatuon sa kung ano ang motibo ng mundo. Kaiba ito sa kaunawaan ng bagay na ispiritwal. My advise is magbasa ka ng bibliya. Ngunit bago iyon ay magdasal ka at hingin mo ang patnubay ng espiritu santo upang maunawaan mo ng lubusan ang salita nga Diyos. Ayokong husgahan ang pagkatao mo ngunit sana maging maingat ka sa pagbitaw ng mga salita especially kung ito ay walang basehan at bunga lamang ng mga haka haka.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        bistado na tong si bisdak kaayo! huthutero ng 10%

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        kasal binyag libing pulos may bayad, salvation is not free. it is for a fee.

    • Bisdak_kaayo

      ang biblia ang binaluktot niyo. hindi ako ang nagbaluktot sa biblia. 

    • Genesis Amv’s

      Mga katoliko dasal ng dasal sa mga statwa niyo…. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

      tama ka! tumpak

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    damaso wag mo hawakan sa leeg ang gobyerno drop mo na kaso kay celdran jesuits is not 4give  nag sasabi lang si celdran ng 22o na ang cbcp bishops ay gus2 mag parami ng batang hubo sa kalye akala siguro pilipinas poultry ng mga batang hubo pinag tatawanan na tayo sa buong mundo pilipinas lang ang impokrito bansa sa buong mundo dahil sa salot na obispo HA YOP KA!! SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE AT BISHOP OSCAR CRUZ BANAL NA ASO KA SANTO KABAYO! SALOT

    • Mendoza_Juniors

      Ito pa si Papa ko. Itago mo ang 10% natin baka mawala ha? Pro-TT-tante kami ni Papa.

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        how sure are you na yung nacollecta ng pari hindi niya ipangdatung?  patawa ka talaga

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Sige banat pa? Huli ka na?

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        huli? patawa ka talaga. guni guni mo lang iyan. sabagay minsan healthy mag illusyon, huwag pasobrahan baka sa mental aabotin.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

      Bakla salot kayo sa lipunan! kainin sana kayo ng lupa! bading

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        pttttng inamo di ako bading gus2 mo suntukan tayo ng mag kaalaman tayo saan ka kita tayo tatapusin kita!! bading ang obispo diyos mo salot sa pinas!

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Papa nakakahiya ka!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        give me your address ako ang pupunta bilis! kundi duwag ka 

  • Genesis Amv’s

    Lol it seems that Corrupt Bishops are Fighting with A corrupt Government ….. Truly a corrupt country….   …

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Relihiyon mo lang hindi di ba? Ano nga yon?

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Announcement (again):

    Nakakalat dito mga Born-Against  at kalimitan patago ang banat.

    Modus Operandi ng mga Born-Against at Pro-testistante dito:

    1) Atake “against” katoliko (criticize to the bones)
    2) Pasok-Turo ng Pro-testistante na aral na baluktot (Bibliya lagi)
    3) Hilain ka para sumali sa samahan (dalaw at fellowship)
    4) Bingo: 10% na sila (tulad kay Manny Pakyaw)
    5) Gulo na buhay mo . . .

    Bottomline: 10%.  Case closed!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

    daig pa mga pulis kung mangotong gusto pa eh 10% kung hindi makapagbigay magnanakaw sa diyos. hahaha

    • Bisdak_kaayo

      bakit sure ka ba na yung collecta ng pari hindi niya ipandatung?

      • Mendoza_Juniors

        Pamilya ng pastor? Asawa at anak? Nakikibahagi sa 10% Kaya dapat dumami ang myembro. Saan kukunin? Sa Katoliko!

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        mas ok na ang pamilya sa pastor makikibahagi sa collecta kaysa kabit na mga lalaki ang nakikibahagi. mas masahol pa.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         10% ang habol. Case closed!

  • Genesis Amv’s

    Announcement (again):
    Nakakalat dito mga Katoliko at kalimitan patago ang banat.
    Modus Operandi ng mga Katoliko dito:
    1) Magaling Makeelam sa Political Affairs2) Pasok-Turo ng Pagdadasal sa mga statwa na aral na baluktot (Bibliya lagi)3) Hilain ka para sumali sa samahan ng Pagdasal ng paulit ulit ng parang hypocrite sa statwa (dalaw  )4) Bingo: 10% na sila 5) Gulo na buhay mo . . .
    Bottomline: 10%.  Case closed!

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Salamat!

      Lumabas na tunay na motibo ng mga Born-Against dito at mga Pro-testistante! Buking!  Kunyari banat Katoliko para dumami ang 10% nila.

      Babayu!

    • Mendoza_Juniors

      Yan pinipilit ang mga issues ayon sa strategy nila na nakalinya. Tama di ba? Example: ang legal issue ni Celdran ginawang paraan para maging anti-Katoliko at maka recruit + 10%. Ginamit pa Bibliya at pangalan ng Diyos. Oportunista!

      Bye-bye!

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        how sure are we na ang motibo ng mga pari bakit tutol sila sa RH BILL ay gusto nila maraming batang isisilang na balang araw mamolestya nila? patawa ka talaga.

  • $38346712

    What Celdran did was not freedom of speech. It was abuse of speech.

    • Bisdak_kaayo

      I dont have qualms with that I agree he is guilty.  But the priests should practice what they preach about forgiveness.  Forgiveness is not conditional or with a clause, na ihabla at ipakulong ang tao if he doesnt ask for forgiveness.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Andar strategy dito. Walang koneksyon pinipilit. Kaya tawag sa kanila: Born-to-go-Against!

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        kung walang connection dedmahin mo. masakit ang tama kaya nag react ka.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Masakit ang 10% di ba Pastor Bisdak? Kaya masipag magrecruit? Di bobo ang mga readers na baluktot kayong mga Born-10%-Against. At … oportunista.

        Peace po, Pastor!

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        kaya takot kayo mawalan ng meimbro dahil kokonti ang kita ng mga pari. eh di lumabas rin na pera lang rin ang habol niyo.  It does not make you a saint.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

        Ano pakialam ko sa pari?  Alam ko 10% nyo!  Peace ulit, Pastor!

      • $38346712

        In a family parents don’t always forgive but also discipline their children.Celdran can malign or put into shame the bishops in whatever means he wants but not to disrespect the altar of God inside the place of worship. It is at this point why he was sued by the administration of the Cathedral. The bishop is not looking after his honor but to the sacredness of the altar and respect to the believers practicing their freedom of religion.

      • Bisdak_kaayo

        Mas maintindihan ko sana kung ordinary tao lang ang hindi magpatawad.  Pero itong mga kaparian expected of highest level of tolerance, hindi makapatawad.  They only invoked the word forgiveness kung may kaso sila ng child abuse at gusto ng arreglo. pero kapag sila na ang biktima they forget about the word forgiveness.  Kaya naging epokrito.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Maninoy,

        Ingat ka lang. Masasayang lang oras mo. Baluktot logic lagi nila. Target? Ma recruit ka para may additional 10% po. Take care po!

      • $38346712

        Hypocrisy applies to all, rich or poor, lowly or highly educated. Being ordinary is not an excuse from hypocrisy.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Napapahiya ang ibang Protestante na matuwid dahil sa katulad nyong Born-10%-Against. Oportunista kayo. At ang sense nyo ng justice ay baluktot.

        Bye-bye po!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

    tapos na ang boxing, tignan nyo na lang si Pacman nag born against talo, nagpa uto kase sa mga Pastor na huthotero 

    • Bisdak_kaayo

      ngayon galit ka dahil napunta sa mga pastor ang pera ni pacman hindi na sa mga pari.

      hindi ka nga sure kanino ipandatung iyang pera ng mga Pari? sure ka ba?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

        e di sa mga FaFa ng pastor 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XAPTOKB6LGSAVXQMUD5H2BOM3U Coco

    BAKLA….BAKLA!!!!! BAKLA!!!

    • Ian Soliven

      There should also be a law against offending people online. Religious feelings are not the only feelings that should be respected. You, sir, are a hypocrite who stresses that freedom of speech has its limits and yet here you are abusing it just the same. You’d even go so low as call people names.

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         Daming troll dito na Born-Against. Sila ang lumapastangan sa Inquirer comment area. Abangan mo lang.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

    Pastor = False Prophet wag paloko sa mga mukhang pera 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XOQKPLKESA6UZ5PFIE6QRAREZE orchid

      di ba mukhang pera yung mga politcal dynasty katulad ng estrada, binay, enrile? ns kunwari ay may malasakit sa bayan?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XAPTOKB6LGSAVXQMUD5H2BOM3U Coco

    BAKLA…BAKLA… BAKLA!!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XAPTOKB6LGSAVXQMUD5H2BOM3U Coco

    WELL SAID SIR… TNX FOR YOUR VERY INFORMATIVE COMMENT. SANA MATUTO DITO ANG MGA SALITA LANG NG SALITA PERO HINDE NAIINTINDIHAN ANG SINASABI O TOTOONG ISSUE!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XAPTOKB6LGSAVXQMUD5H2BOM3U Coco

    THE CHURCH ALREADY DID…. HE IS WELL FORGIVEN. BUT HE STILL IS RESPONSIBLE TO THE STATE.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      PINAG BINTANGAN PA GOBYERNO NA BRAIN WASH KANA NI DAMASO!

  • Bisdak_kaayo

    PINATAWAD na daw poh, pero ihabla at ipakulong muna bago patawarin.  Conditional pala ang forgiveness ng mga pari.

    Lumabas lang ang forgiveness na word para ipakita na Christiano, but in essence there was no forgiveness because they still pursued the case.

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Kaya? Hindi si Celdran ang issue kundi siraan ang katoliko.

      Tapos? Recruit kayo ni Pastor Bisdak.

      Tarrraaaa . . . 10% na!

      Huli. Peace po Pastor Bisdak!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

      Batas nga eh! dapat makulong kung lumabag sa batas! dapat ba mag bayad ng 10% para sa forgiveness! hahahaha! huthuterong bading

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

      hirap talaga makaindi ang bisaya ng common sense! lol 

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

      Pre ganito lang kasimple yan (para maintindihan ng mga tangang kagaya mo), kung sinasabi ng simbahan na pinatawad na daw nila yang bading na si Celdran okay fine wag kang maniwala. Pero sana maintindihan ng utak mong kasinglaki ng buto ng kamatis na iba ang batas na magpaparusa sa kanya. Yun ang batas naginawa ng mga tao. At pag nakialam naman ung mga pari sasabihin mo nagmamalinis nanaman palibhasa wala kayong kasiyahan. Mahilig kayong manghusga ng iba eh kayo anu na ba ang nagawa niyong tama?

      • philip hernaez

        di nya maiintindihan yan!!! wala utak yan..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

    Edgardo Mendoza duwag kang bading ka GGO 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

    Pinatawad na pala ng CBCP tong bading na to eh! wag na daw isulong ang kaso. 

    eh Celdran cas was pursued by the state represented by the public prosecutor and a lay private prosecutor. So gobyerno na ang nagdemanda dito kay bading. Pahiya ang mga 10% kasapi hahahaha

  • aeon888

    Tha arrogance of the Filipino priests and bishops is the complete opposite of Jesus Christ’s  teachings and principles. Even Pope John Paul II forgave and pardoned the assassin that tried to kill him with a gun. The Pope was critically wounded but when he recovered, he went out and ask the Italian President to pardon the assassin and have the assassin RELEASED from jail.

    Now these Philippine bishops did not even get shot or critically wounded by Celdran but the only wounds they have are their egos and hurt feelings that this Celdran disrespected their domain. That this ordinary citizen has the gall to fight against the mighty Catholic Church, when even the powerful politicians are afraid of the priests and bishops.

    Don’t get me wrong, I do not agree also with how Celdran disrespected the Church. But these bishops should also think, “WWJD or What Will Jesus Do?”.

    If Jesus has the bloated egos of these Catholic bishops, I bet the Roman soldier that whipped him and hurt him physically would have been struck by lightning or turned into a frog but then Jesus endured the beatings and humiliation unlike these so called Christ-like models or Catholic priests that are doing the exact opposite when it is just their tiny feelings that were hurt or offended.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/XAPTOKB6LGSAVXQMUD5H2BOM3U Coco

      AEON888 BEFORE YOU QUOTE AN EVENT HERE MAKE SURE YOU WERE ABLE TO RESEARCH ON THE DETAILS. FYI… THE POPE FORGAVE MEHMET ALI AGCA
      BUT HE REMAINED IN PRISON FOR YEARS.
      HOW COULD YOU DISCIPLINE THE PERSON IF YOU WONT TEACH HIM LESSON. AND BTW TRY TO READ THE OFFICIAL STATEMENT OF CBCP ON TIS MATTER SO THAT YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ARE MEANINGLESS.

      • aeon888

        The official statement of the CBCP is just a ploy to appease the public. Their words are the complete opposite of their actions. If they really have forgiven the guy then they can always withdraw the case since they are the complainants. No complainants means no case to pursue.

        Since you know how to use the internet, how about if you type this words “Pedophile catholic priests arrested” and try to count the tens of thousands maybe even hundreds of thousands of priests arrested from all over the world. That would prove that not all priests are saints as what you believe.

        Even the archbishop in my poor province, he goes around bars with young teenage girls. I will try to take a picture of him when I get home to the Philippines and expose these wolves in sheep’s clothings and put it in Facebook. I am a Catholic also, just in case you will think I am not of the same Religion. I am also an altar boy since elementary to high school, but I was lucky enough that the priest was not into little boys because he like girls during that time when I serve in the church. hehehe

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/XAPTOKB6LGSAVXQMUD5H2BOM3U Coco

        I AGREE… BECAUSE PRIESTS HAVE ALSO THEIR OWN STRUGGLES. BUT DO NOT DESTROY THE CHURCH JUST BECASUE OF THESE ERRING PRIESTS. YOU MIGHT ALSO DISREGARD THOSE PRIESTS WHO ALSO STRUGGLE EVERYDAY TO REAMIN FAITHFUL IN THEIR VOCATION.
        SA AKIN ALNG NAMAN. KUNG WALA KANG TIWALA SA SIMBAHANG KATOLIKO… LEAVE THE CHURCH. WAG KA NG MAGSABI NG PANINIRA. BAKT ANONG SIMBAHAN BA ANG WALNG DUMI? KAHIT SAAN KANG PUMUNTA MERON YAN. BECAUSE EVERY CHURCH IS STILL HUMAN. THAT IS WHY THEY STILL NEED GOD’S GRACE.
        ANO BA RELIHEYON MO NGAYON?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/XAPTOKB6LGSAVXQMUD5H2BOM3U Coco

        SO YOU ARE A CATHOLIC. NOW I CHALLENGE YOU… IF YOU ARE NOT CONVINCE ANYMORE OF THIS CHURCH… LEAVE IT. FIND OTHER CHURCH THAT COULD EQUAL TO YOUR EXPECTATIONS. HINDE KA NAMAN PINIPILIT EH.
        BUT PLEASE SHOW DUE RESPECT TO THE CHURCH. KAHIT SAAN KA MANG SIMBAHAN PUMUNTA…YAN DIN ANG HIHINGIN SA IYO RESPETO SA SIMBAHAN NILA BECAUSE THEY TOO ARE HUMAN WITH EVERYDAY STRUGGLES.

      • Ricky Bobby

        What about you show simple internet etiquette by typing in normal case? Did you know typing in all caps is considered shouting and disrespectful?

        Respect is given to those who give them.

      • aeon888

        Forgive COCO for he does not know what he is doing. In other words, hindi nya alam kung saan yung Caps Lock Key sa keyboard nya para matanggal yung puro capital letters hehhehe

      • Victor Magallanes

        The abuse of boys and girls alike aren’t confined to Catholic priests. Given that you are abroad and presumably have access to the internet all the time, why don’t you also search Google for “Protestant Pastors Abuse”. You might be surprised that there is a myriad of cases, if not more than that of Catholic priests. Start here: clergygonewildDOTcom. This is also a good read: http://wwwDOThuffingtonpostDOTcom/valerie-tarico/the-protestant-clergy-sex_b_740853DOThtml

      • Mendoza_Juniors

         And . . .  millions of dollars stolen for their families.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        ur president penoy said…i forgive GMA but i demand and filipinos demand justice…”there will be no forgiveness if there is no justice” sabi yan ni PNOY….

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

        Kung Catholic ka talaga, nakakaawa ka. Kasi hindi ka pa umaalis sa Catholic Church sinisira mo na ito. So kasama mong sinisira ang sarili mo. Kung gusto mong banatan ng banatan si Damaso, lumabas ka muna sa cathedral niya bago ka magsisigaw kasi baka nakasuot ka rin pala ng suot niya at pag labas mo ay mabato ka ng bomba imbes na siya.

    • julymorning

      SEGURO KABARO KA DIN NG AROGANTENG BADING AT SUPOT NA MUKHANG UGOK NA BABOY NA CELDRAN

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Sige ipabaril kita tapos pakawalan mo ang bumaril ha?

  • bogli_anakdami

    flips are gung gongs, lack critical thinking…

    kaya, ang flip gung gongs eh amen ng amen sa sinasabi ng kaksaker padre dumbassos…

    hoy mga flips, wala na kayong malamon eh puro pa kayo relihiyon…

    bwi hi hi hi hi pwi!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XAPTOKB6LGSAVXQMUD5H2BOM3U Coco

    TRY TO READ THIS FROM FB COMMNET: The conviction of Celdran is legally correct. The penal provision that deals with offending religious sensibilities is corollary to the ‘free exercise’ clause of the Constitution. To proclaim my freedom to believe and to worship as I please and then to allow others to ridicule me and my ministers when I worship as my conscience dictates is to uphold inconsistency as a rule. Celdran knew what “Damaso” meant and all that it implied: which is why he used “Damaso”. He could have used “Celdran”, but he used “Damaso” because he wanted to offend. Why should there be so much whimpering now that he is punished for offending religious sensibilities when that is exactly what he set out to do in the first place? I am sure that had Celdran irreverently entered a Mosque and disrupted prayers by unfolding an irreverent banner like he did, he would have gotten very much more than the slap in the wrist that the court in his case meted out to him. He would have been lucky to keep his head! Freedom of speech is not that unbounded license Filipinos, especially journalists, make out of it. There is no philosophical and juridical support for such a stupid proposition. Like all other rights, it ends where the rights of others begin. And it is as stupid to assert that the right to religious freedom is subordinate to the right to free speech! If Celdran did not want to listen to the homily, all he would have done was to stay out of church. He had no business imposing his opinion — informed or uninformed — by disrupting a religious service.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    damaso wag mo hawakan sa leeg ang gobyerno drop mo na kaso kay celdran jesuits is not 4give nag sasabi lang naman si celdran ng 22o dumarami ang batang hubo sa kalye iba talaga pag malakas kay lord siguro akala ni bishops poultry ang pinas ng batang hubo pinag tatawanan na tayo ng ibang bansa pilipinas lang ang impokrito bansa sa buong mundo dahil sa salot na obispo SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO BISHOP OSCAR CRUZ MUKANG GALUNGGONG CBCP BISHOPS KATOLIBAN EXTREMIST PARASITE TERRORIST CHURCH PWE! SALOT BANAL NA ASO

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/XAPTOKB6LGSAVXQMUD5H2BOM3U Coco

      MAS SALUT KA EDGARDO MENDOZA KASI PURO KA LANG SALITA. YOU ARE WAHT YOU SPEAK. FEELING KO GANYAN KA NGA.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        BISHOP COCO masama po sa pari ang makisali d2 usapan po ng may utak ito!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/XAPTOKB6LGSAVXQMUD5H2BOM3U Coco

        HAHAHA… EH BAT NANDITO KA?
        PAG MAGCOMMENT KA KASI SIGURADUHIN MONG MAY SENSE AT HINDE PANG KANTO KASI GANUN DIN ANG IBABATO SA IYO.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYAZBOJYIUCRLWTYJBORBVTTOI boyfarmer

         bu-ang ka edgardo mendoza. . . . sira ulo

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        may utak ba un na carnival na lang ang nakikita ko…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SHJZR76LIZ3P6EC3DHL5RKXKAU Sargo

      asan na address mo duwag!!! 

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      PAKAWALA ITO NG BORN AGAINST AT IGLESIA NI KULAFU

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/AUPTS47VZP6O5O4ABVWTACXOQU Febien

      Kahit anong sabihin mo Majority ang Katoliko!! Majority! Sa buong mundo More than one billion kaming mga katoliko, yan ang power ni Jesus. Sa Italy France Poland at iba pang bansa MAJORITY ANG ROMAN CATHOLIC. Before King Henry Vlll Catholic din ang Great Britain o London. GANYAN ANG POWER NA IBINIGAY NG DIYOS SA CATHOLIC CHURCH. KAMI ANG PINILI NG PANGINOON NA RELIHIYON. Paano natin sasabihin na yung ibang relihiyon ang pinili ay iilang piraso lang sila? Kung talagang sila pinili ng Diyos bakit ilangiraso lang sila samantalang ibinigay ng Diyos sa mga katoliko ang kapangyarihang kumalat sa buong mundo? inggit lang kayo!

  • rtsantos2012

    Too bad about Celdran but I don’t blame him for going to such extreme in expressing his feeling toward CBCP. I myself have enough of their meddling ways in the way I feel about Marcos regime. Enough is enough and something has to be done about this people ( another brown Damaso) whose primary interest is to protect the interest of the corrupt and not so holy Vatican.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OGNBATQP6PD7MV7P6GPSPW7PSQ Tommy

    ‘Aquino seeks forgiveness for celdran’

    Maigi pa rin na magpasalamat si celdran kasi ang sympathy ni Pnoy ay nasa kanya kahit papaano.   Si celdran kasi ay supporter ng Anti-life at Anti-Christ na RH bill at divorce bill.

    Paglabas ni celdran sa kulungan next year kung maaari ay sa Luneta na nya gawin yun o kaya ay sa ibang event place kahit maghapon sya doon walang makialam sa kanya dun wag na sa loob ng Simbahang Katoliko lalung lalo na kung ang Misa ay kasalukuyang idinadaos.   Katulad ng nabanggit ko nung nakaraan kung sa Mosque nya ito ginawa ay baka tinalupan na sya ng buhay linient lang masyado ang Simbahang Katoliko pero pabayaan na lang si celdran na pagbayarin na lang nya sa kulungan ang kanyang ginawa 

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

      Kaibigan malamang susuportahan ni Pnoy yan eh makafederasyon silang dalawa eh… sayang nalang at green pareho ang dugo nila hehe

  • Pluto Animus

    Any law which is designed to prevent religious believers from offense is, by definition, an admission of the weakness of believers and their faith in their religion.  This includes anti-blasphemy laws.

    That’s why no country has ever had a law outlawing the offending of scientific sensibilities.  The truth requires no protection!

    • Mendoza_Juniors

       Sorry misplaced analogy. Science does not involve emotion. Religion is a deeply humane field. Religious sentiments could not be explained away by science, thus needs to be respected.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z6R2QAY7UWNJMTCRTED3JZXPIA Joey

    NO! The president should not interfere in cases like this! This is a criminal case, covered by the law. Maybe the judge erred in rendering a guilty verdict but the President, just like any other citizen, should let the wheels of justice take their own natural course! Kung palagi na lang makiki-alam ang presidente sa mga kaso gaya nito, eh sino pang maniniwala sa mga batas natin? The other thing Noynoy can do is to be responsible himself and grant Celdran a presidential pardon, which he is authorized to do. But until then, hero or not, Celdran was found guilty of violating the law and until such verdict is overturned by a higher court or he has served his sentence, CELDRAN SHOULD BE IN JAIL!

    • opinyonlangpo

      Monsignor, if an ordinary Juan de la Cruz is entitled to voice out their own opinions, what type of a man should deprive a president to voice out his own opinion which is just what he did.

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

        Tama he should not be deprived of that right kasi baka magwala yan masama pa namang atakihin ng pagkaaboy yan hahaha

      • opinyonlangpo

        Your comment mirrors yourself.

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

        Pnoy kaw ba yan? haha

      • philip hernaez

        Si Abnoy yan!!!

  • opinyonlangpo

    The verdict is fair but for these bishops to say that they forgave Celdran long time ago is a big hypocritical lie. Forgive without asking for dismissal of the charges is the same vengeful and unforgiving church. Anyhow the Roman Catholic Church is lucky in the Philippines, in other countries like Nigeria, Iraq, Northern Ireland and others churches were bombed just because they don’t like the religion. In comparison a Damaso placard and a shout is not much of a damage and should be forgivable though considering that the church also use the same disrupted service to campaign for their side of the RH Bill which Celdran just responded with his own pro RH Bill position.

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

      So terorista ka pala? Kasi gusto mo mangyari din dito yung nangyayari dun sa mga bansang sinasabi mo? Hindi ba naisip ng makitid mong utak na maraming inosenteng madadmay pag may nang bomba sa kahit na saang religious place kasi maraming tao. Sana kahit galit ka sa mga taga simbahan hindi ka nag-iisip ng ganun. Kailangan mo pang tawaging swerte ang Pinas dahil hindi nabobomba ang mga simbahan dito. Ito lang ang masasabi ko maswerte kadin dahil hindi ka tinamaan ng ligaw na bala nung new year. hayaan mo meron pa namang next new year malay mo… haha

      • opinyonlangpo

        . . . and you are a Filipino. Grow up.

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

        Anu daw? hahaha

  • Platypus09

    Rebel (our most popular rebel) Jose Rizal did not protest the (Spaniard) priests’ priesthood and Catholicism, but their abusive behavior which was rampant during those days in colonized countries and territories from European colonizers, including the ones we had from Spain.

    Their priesthood, Catholicism, and their abusive behavior are three different things. Not all Catholic priests back then were all abusive. Lots of them in rural areas were loving and caring.

    The priests back then became mean and defensive, especially in Manila and surrounding areas, when anti-colonial rebels such as the Katipuneros and others became hostile and offensive to them at the end of the Spain colonialism.

    The priests naturally had to defend their lives, but they had given us so much from civilization, education, commerce to moral teachings, etc. We would not be the way we are right now without them.

    We should be at least nice enough and thankful by recognizing lots of things they had done and given us as a Filipino nation, and not being ungrateful (“ingratos” or “ingratas”).

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      LIARRR DAMASO!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYAZBOJYIUCRLWTYJBORBVTTOI boyfarmer

         Damaso is a respectable name, hindi katulad mo edgardo mendoza na ang utak ay champorado at alimasag, , , , , The Catholic church na nilalapastangan nyo, has done a lot to give us the Bible. Various books were collected and examined by a council of Catholic Bishops, Compiled 73 books into one cover written in Hebrew. Gave the  first adequate Latin translation of the Bible. . .  (Pope Damaso requested St. Jerome, a scripture scholar, to translate the Bible into Latin and to do exegetical work, revise and correct the New Testament, it took him 34 years to complete his work (383-384 A.D.). He added 15 years to make commentaries (St. Jerome commentaries). . . .  the Catholic church multiplied copies of the Bible during the time that the printing press was not yet invented. Produced the first vernacular versions of the vulgate and worked to improve vernacular translations. . .

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        mag pagawa ka sa china ng rebulto ni damaso at sambahin mo!!

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        AND USED BY BORN AGAINST AS IF SILA ANG MAY AUTHORITY AT SILA ANG NAGSASABI NG TOTOO

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/EAWQCV6E2OFOH2YKTTSLUOKATY Jimenez

        talalog na lang po…. di yata naintindihan.. tingnan mo reply sa baba… sobrang layo..

        humithit yata sa katol..

      • Platypus09

        All I can say is that you are very narrow-minded and really MEAN individual.

        God bless you..

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYAZBOJYIUCRLWTYJBORBVTTOI boyfarmer

       Yes, the Spanish colonization though harsh has given a lot to the Filipinos also including international trade that brought to us carrots, camote, tablea and many other products, including also morals, education etc.

      • teekaye2

        At what price??

  • Mendoza_Juniors

    Daming troll at perverts dito na Born-Against. Out of line palagi ang argumento. Atake  lang ng atake para maka-recruit ng myembro para dumami ang 10% nila. Ingat po!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EAWQCV6E2OFOH2YKTTSLUOKATY Jimenez

      Oo nga, sablay mga paniniwala nila.. Puro unblilical ang mga Burn Again in Hell religion na to!! Tini-twist ang toong message ng Bible, makalusot lang sa issue…

  • darkempire007

    Celdran ..just kept quiet and accept his fate…the priest should shut up and accept the peoples choice for the rh bill…hypocrisy at its finest….since when did having to many kids you cannot take care of , a good thing…the main thing the catholic church is afraid of is “EDUCATION”

    • teekaye2

      Well said better education from dedicated teachers NOT THE Catholic Church will be the answer to a lot of  problems in the Philippines

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/QVR2HMWEPWZA4TV2Z2Q7BYF36A January

    swerte si Celdran pag makulong kasi maraming boys sa loob,libre pa at walang bayad…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EAWQCV6E2OFOH2YKTTSLUOKATY Jimenez

      Baka after 2 months. ayaw na lumabas..hehe..

  • wehd1nga

    hoy Panot matagal na pinatawad ng simbahan si Celdran may nilabag na batas si Celdran kaya ang government prosecutors ang nagdemanda kay Celdran, eh teka lang kung totoo kristiyano ka eh bakit si GMA ayaw mo patawarin?

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

    Hoy Mr. President Abnoy, este Pnoy pala, bago po sana kayo mangaral sa iba sana sarili mo muna pangaralan mo, kasi ikaw hanggang ngayon tinitira mo parin si Gloria para lang masabing mas maayos ka. Oo na siguro mas okay yung leadership mo, pero ang tanong tama bang manira ka ng iba ng paulit-ulit para lang mataas mo ang sarili mo? Kaya please lang para mas maging credible ang pangangaral mo sana iapply mo din sa sarili mo…

    • http://www.facebook.com/ruben.pilapil Ruben Pilapil

      Whatever, c Mike Arroyo ka ba? Parang ganun kasi ang dating mo eh.

      • https://me.yahoo.com/a/.9kOqpwnn5yK4KYYY.wxksWVUOj1DavlwMg0#4f31a Whatever

        Haha hindi ako si Kris yung kapatid mo paknot haha

  • jr18496

    60 plus years ago, South Korea is in Ruin. Now they just successfully launched a satelite in orbit. 60 plus years ago, the Philippines is second only to the Japanese. Now it is almost at the bottom . 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AUPTS47VZP6O5O4ABVWTACXOQU Febien

    May mga tao na suklam na suklam sa mga Pari at Katoliko. Kahit anong sabihin nila Majority kaming mga Katoliko. Mexico, Peru, Spain, Italy, France,Venezuela, Brazil, at marami pang bansa na ang tao MAJORITY ay Catholic. ANG London o Great Britain ay dating katoliko din. More than ONE BILLION ang Catholic. Evil daw ang Catholic! Mauubos lang ang Laway ng iba dyan sa paninira sa Katoliko pero ayan, Kung magugunaw ang mundo MAJORITY pa rin ang katoliko. Magugunaw na daw ang mundo pero yung mga sobrang manira sa Katoliko ay AYAN IILANG PIRASO! Ang dami na ninyong nasasayang na laway kapapanira sa katoliko kaya ayan kayo ay iilang piraso!

    • akimaxx

      Jesus Christ seeks for quality Christians, he’s not for quantity, hindi ito paramihan. Sinabi nga niya: Ihihiwalay ko ang trigo (wheat) sa damo na walang pakinabang. Ihihiwalay ko ang kambing sa tupa, na sumusunod  at naging masunurin sa akin. Are you a ‘team player’ with Christ?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/EAWQCV6E2OFOH2YKTTSLUOKATY Jimenez

        mali ka na naman akimaxx… born again ka ba? unbiblical ang paniniwala mo!!  ang mga verse mo, hindi angkop sa issue ni Febein… Kelan sinabi ni Kristo na, pipiliin nya ang quality Christians???

        Papano mo ngayon ipapaliwanag ang pagpili ni Kristo kay Matthew – isang tax collector – isang makasalanan – Quality ba yan???

        Papano mo ngayon ipapaliwanag ang pakikipagsalo ni Kristo sa hapunan kasama ang mga makasalanan?? Asan ang Quality dyan????

        Burn Again in hell!!! Sablay!!!

      • akimaxx

        What I meant by quality Christians are the righteous and true believers of Christ. You mentioned Jesus with the sinners, they are people who are tired of their sinful lives and want the Lord to change them as righteous faithfuls, obedient to God’s plan for them. Same with Matthew, as a new man, he became one of the 12 apostles. All of them experienced changed lives by the grace of God.

        Matthew 13:30, “Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I (Jesus speaking) will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be BURNED, then gather the wheat and BRING IT into my barn ( meaning God’s Kingdom).

        Matthew 25:32, All the nations will be gathered before Him (Jesus Christ), and He will separate people one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goat” (Matt 25:46).

        Hindi tinitingnan ng Diyos kung ano ang relihiyon mo Jimenez, Ang mas interesado Siya ay kung ano ang nasasa puso at isipan mo, tapat ka ba sa Kanya? Tingnan mo sa Bibliang Tagalog ang mga bersong nasa itaas, Ipagdarasal kita, Jimenez.

    • philip hernaez

      “All past persecutors of the Church are now no more, but the Church still lives on. The same fate awaits modern persecutors; they, too, will pass on, but the Church of Jesus Christ will always remain, for God has pledged His Word to protect Her and be with Her forever, until the end of time.”
      – St. Don Bosco

  • boybakal

    Dressed like the national hero Jose Rizal, Celdran had stood before the main altar of the Manila Cathedral during an ecumenical service last year and, yelling, raised a placard with the name “Damaso”

    Celdran asked for it…he got it.
    But lucky for Celdran, the priests were not the Damasos he’s trying to send a message or else he will be the modern version of Rizal firing squad.
    One year is good enough…for trying to impersonate Rizal the National Hero and not the mass disruption.

  • akimaxx

    Very creative ang approach ni Celdran on RH Bill. A lone and brave activist with an impressive impact.  The senate approved and the Pres. PNoy signed the Bill, notice how the Catholic church show their arrogance. AYAW PA RIN PATALO.

    Malaki ba ang impluwensya ng mga Damaso sa kamatayan ng atin bayani na si Jose Rizal?

    • philip hernaez

      “All past persecutors of the Church are now no more, but the Church still lives on. The same fate awaits modern persecutors; they, too, will pass on, but the Church of Jesus Christ will always remain, for God has pledged His Word to protect Her and be with Her forever, until the end of time.”
      – St Don Bosco

      • akimaxx

        The Church of Jesus Christ St. Don Bosco mentioned were the over-comers and victorious churches. Read Revelation 2, Jesus Christ in his glorified form, commented on the 7 churches.  He mentioned their strengths and weaknesses, some of them become adulterous with Satan, neglecting their first love, which is our true relationship with Lord Jesus Christ. Our Lord warned them of their bad practices, of non repentant  and undisciplined behavior. Observe your church, see if your church belongs to one of the 7 churches. Are they in line with His plan? God has pledged to protect His true Church (faithful and obedient to his Words), until the end of time. 

        Don’t misquote Don Bosco’s wisdom, philip h. Dig deeper to God’s plan. God wants to gather His true sheep  and to keep them in His Kingdom.

  • philip hernaez

    “All past persecutors of the Church are now no more, but the Church still lives on. The same fate awaits modern persecutors; they, too, will pass on, but the Church of Jesus Christ will always remain, for God has pledged His Word to protect Her and be with Her forever, until the end of time.”
    – St. Don Bosco

  • philip hernaez

    ito ang sabi ni Dr. Jose Rizal——There I found Christianity beautiful, sublime, divine; Catholicism attractive, poetic, the same Christianity, poetized and beautified, more beautiful than the insipid Protestantism.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/O65EQ5AGBKWGJOCS32KMPN4PFI Lorelei

    dati bitay ang mga paring gomez, burgos at zamorra …
    firing squad si rizal …
    ngayon kulong “lang” si celdran … may pag-unlad kahit paano ang pang-unawa ng mga hunyango?
    arrogante

  • donsupremo

    što je velika stvar o tom čovjeku … Aquino može diskus njegov slučaj s bjmp i dobiti ga jednom uvjetnu pravomoćna presuda se dostavlja redering svoju kaznu kao konačni.

    prilično jednog dana uskoro ovo gej ismijavati također će se kandidirati za senatora, a možda i predsjednik države … da je kako ta stvar će se razviti bih vjerovati …

  • johnlagrimas

    Celdran, pag makalaya ka after one year, dito ka sa mindanao manggulo para talagang makilala mo ang lupit ni Damaso, tingnan natin – di ka na sa selda pupulutin kundi sa funeraria!

  • johnlagrimas

    Mr. President, habang may cabinet meeting ka, papasukin kita sa malacanang na may dalang letrato ni Herodes na kamukha mo – tapos mag ala john the baptist ako – patawarin mo rin ako ha.

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