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Lontok, companion killed in cold blood–witnesses

De Lima: Definitely, no shootout!

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TERMINATED WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE In a reenactment of the killing of 13 people in Atimonan, Quezon, someone from the NBI posing as a policeman shoots at close range a person who played environmentalist Tirso Lontok Jr. Two witnesses said the policeman shot Lontok while he had his hands up and delivered the coup de grace when the environmentalist fell in a roadside canal. Photo was enhanced to focus on the reenactment. RAFFY LERMA

ATIMONAN, Quezon—Environmentalist Tirso Lontok Jr. stepped out of the second vehicle, hands raised. A companion also got off, raising his hands. If they were thinking that following orders to get off would save their lives, they were wrong. Gunfire ripped the air  and they fell into a roadside canal, dead.

Two witnesses described to government investigators how the two men were cut down after policemen and Army Special Forces raked the first vehicle with gunfire.

With Justice Secretary Leila de Lima and National Bureau of Investigation officials watching, the two witnesses, wearing masks for security, helped the investigators on Thursday in reenacting the events of Jan. 6 that led to the gunslaying of 13 people, including Lontok, on a stretch of Maharlika Highway in Atimonan town, Quezon province.

“They are eyewitnesses. They actually saw what really happened. They witnessed almost the entire incident so we believe this is what really happened,” De Lima told reporters on the roadside after the reenactment. “This is a big breakthrough.”

De Lima described the two witnesses as “neutral,” meaning they were neither police nor soldiers. They were there on that Sunday afternoon and saw the killings that local and regional police officials wanted the public to believe was a “shootout” between a combined police and military security force and a group of criminals led by Victor “Vic” Siman, alleged operator of the numbers racket “jueteng” in southern Luzon.

‘Explosive, vital’

But with the testimony of the witnesses and the reenactment of the events, De Lima said what happened was not a shootout.

“Definitely it was not a shootout,” she said. But she did not describe what it was, saying the NBI wanted to dig deeper.

De Lima said the testimony of the witnesses was “very vital” and “explosive” and could bolster initial findings that there was no shootout at the joint police-military checkpoint in Barangay (village) Lumutan where the slayings happened.

The Department of Justice (DOJ) has put the two witnesses, whom De Lima said had been under NBI custody for several days, on the government’s witness protection program.

De Lima declined to disclose the identities of the witnesses. “There is now confidentiality involved,” she said.

“At first they were afraid to talk, but when the NBI assured them [that they and their families would be safe], they eventually agreed to talk,” De Lima said.

She stressed that the witnesses were “neutral civilians” and so had “no motive to invent what they [said they] had witnessed.”

How it happened

The Jan. 6 killings happened at the second of three checkpoints set up along Maharlika Highway.

An NBI source interviewed by the Philippine Daily Inquirer earlier said the two sports utility vehicles carrying Siman’s group were waived through the first checkpoint in Plaridel town by uniformed officers from the Atimonan police.

At the third checkpoint, near an Iglesia Ni Cristo church on the highway, uniformed police detoured traffic away from Atimonan. The source said Siman’s group was “lured into a trap.”

There were no police signs at the second checkpoint manned by policemen in civvies, with Army Special Forces in full battle gear for backup.

De Lima said a checkpoint sign was placed on the middle of the road only as Siman’s group approached.

ATIMONAN 13 Two witnesses (with caps and covered faces) narrate to Justice Secretary Leila de Lima and NBI Director Nonnatus Rojas how a team of policemen and soldiers shot dead all 13 people in two SUVS in Atimonan, Quezon, on Jan. 6. RAFFY LERMA

As the sign was being set up, she said, a military truck drove to the center of the road and blocked passage, apparently to prevent Siman’s group from fleeing.

Recounting the testimony of the witnesses, De Lima said two soldiers approached each vehicle and ordered the occupants to get off.

Single shot from 1st SUV

“When they refused to go down, the soldiers retreated to the line of soldiers and policemen and then a man in civilian clothes leading the group shouted, ‘Fire,’” De Lima said.

Policemen and soldiers peppered the first vehicle with bullets.

De Lima said that according to the witnesses, a single shot was fired from inside the first vehicle.

“The witnesses said they even saw the [spent case fly] out the window from the driver’s side of the first vehicle. “Then it was followed by another order to fire from the same person in civilian clothes at the checkpoint,” she said.

De Lima said the first burst of gunfire lasted about 20 seconds and the second, about eight seconds.

Then from the second vehicle, she said, Lontok and another man stepped out, their hands raised.

But “a uniformed soldier with a rifle and a civilian with a handgun” shot the two men, De Lima said.

She said Lontok’s body was found in a roadside ditch, where it rolled after the environmentalist was shot.

Police records showed Lontok was hit 14 times. He took one shot to the head, one to the throat, one to the chest, two to the back, and nine to the legs.

Team leader

She said the witnesses could not describe the policeman in civvies who gave the order to fire.

The policeman was described as wearing an olive drab jacket over an orange striped shirt.

The leader of the police team at the checkpoint was Supt. Hansel Marantan, deputy chief of intelligence of the Calabarzon (Cavite, Laguna, Batangas, Rizal, Quezon) police, who was reportedly hit in the hands and foot during the supposed shootout.

Sources at a local hospital where Marantan was first taken for treatment said he was wearing “orange striped shirt and blue denim pants” when he was brought in.

6 meters away

NBI Deputy Director Virgilio Mendez said the witnesses were positioned about 6 meters from the two vehicles when the shooting happened.

De Lima said the witnesses, who were aboard a 10-wheeler truck, were not harmed because they left after being told by a soldier to “leave immediately.”

The truck of the witnesses was in the middle of the road, in front of the vehicles of Siman’s group. On the other side were the security forces.

“They were really close and could see and hear what was happening,” Mendez said.

The reenactment was performed by uniformed Army soldiers, NBI agents and residents of Barangay Lumutan, where the second checkpoint was set up.

Asked why the policemen and soldiers who took part in the actual operation on Jan. 6 were not present during the reenactment, De Lima replied that they were not invited because they still had to submit their statements to the investigators.

De Lima noted that the report of the Philippine National Police fact-finding commission submitted to the NBI on Wednesday did not mention any witnesses to the incident to show that what happened was a shootout.

 

PAOCC role

She said the NBI would question key officials of the Presidential Anti-Organized Crime Commission (PAOCC) on the commission’s role in the police operation that led to the Jan. 6 killings.

“There are questions that need to be asked and whatever else, even confidential aspects of the operation,” De Lima said.

The Calabarzon police submitted the proposal for the operation to the PAOCC for approval and funding in October last year.

PAOCC officials said the proposal, “Coplan Armado,” was disapproved. But sacked Calabarzon police director, Chief Supt. James Melad, told reporters on Wednesday that the disapproval was only on funding. The operation itself was approved, he said.

Marantan also said that the operation had PAOCC approval and that he received P100,000 of the P900,000 requested funding. He said he still had the receiving copy of the approval for funding.

The PAOCC is headed by Executive Secretary Paquito Ochoa, who denied that Malacañang approved Coplan Armado.

De Lima said NBI Director Nonnatus Rojas himself would do the questioning of the PAOCC officials.


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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BL2GYU35SO6HTJUEAUTXS3QFYM George Lapulapu

    Marantan said the victims were gun for hire… too bad the evidence did not match his story.. 

    Marantan is accuser judge and executioner!!!! utah pulbura….you are a disgrace to the police force….

    • diamond_digger

       George, medyo kulang sa paliwanag si Marantan tungkol sa sinabi niya. Ang ibig niyang sabihin sa “the victims were gun for hire” eh walang iba kundi siya. He was the victim of his self-inflicted wounds. And he was hired by his sister who is an intense business rival of Vic Siman to kill her competitors. Eh di, maliwanag na ngayon na ang ‘gun-for-hire ay si Marantan who also became a victim of a self-inflicted wounds. Pwede na siguro itong si Marantan na lumipat sa showbiz at maging scriptwriter o director. Kaya lang, pumalpak siya. Palagay ko, when he is found guilty and sent to jail, he would petition to be jailed in Cebu so that he may take part in directing the famous Dancing Inmates. Finally, no more encore for Marantan. The curtains already fell and the show ended with a resounding ‘boo’ and not applause. To hell with you Marantan et al.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BL2GYU35SO6HTJUEAUTXS3QFYM George Lapulapu

        agree diamond. but even they are gun for hire, what is their crime? suspected gun for hire pa lang. which we know now that it was not true. but even it was true, Marantan could have just arrested them.

        the script did not match. the real story is, Marantan is bent to liquidate his sister’s jutting competitor, and palabasin na shoot out. to bad, may mga military pala. it was an ambush plain and simple. it was an ambush using government resources for personal gains…. 

        naala mo pa yung 7 years old na tinodas din nila yung tatay para walang witness? si marantan din yun!!! di na sana dumating sa quezon, or yung sa ortigas kung nakulong na ang utak pulbora na to….

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KAAEZZZL7OMMZ5K4KCFETADLSM jerome

         Agreed the father and daughter that was killed in the shootout in Paranaque city. It was also Marantan who was there and they did not even dare try to stop the victims from coming near they just assumed that they were also with the group.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/FXNIN7XJ52H6BOQLS7NRMO3GEA Lorelei

        kaawa-awa si devera, siniraan din siya na kriminal kahit may kasamang anak (“uso na gumamit ng bata ang mga kriminal”) hanggang nabulatlat ang passport at seaman’s book niya nagpakita na lagi siyang destino sa labas ng bansa

    • 12JEM

       The shooting of the two who came out of the second Montero showed the real intent of leaving no one alive….to be able to tell anything..

  • mon key

    so there are witnesses. it was not a shoot out. one shot was fired from the first suv AFTER they were fired on by the men at the check point. Lontok and the other guy with him were EXECUTED! they were witnesses to the murder of the passengers in the first SUV! maraTRAnTan’s group were gracious enough to let the witness on the 10 wheeler truck go. this is one notch lower than the killings in maguindanao!

    • derabon

       ma complicate na sa palabas nitong marantan pag dinedo pa ang driver at helper ng 10wheeler truck.

      wala na talagang hihigit pa sa  katarantadohan   kasalbahisan at kabobohan nitong marantan and company. one word: mga “demonyo!” sila!

  • koolkid_inthehouse

    These civilian witnesses should be given highest honor this country can give to these brave ordinary Filipinos.

    I want to know if everybody agrees with me that these eyewitnesses should be granted the best protection to their families.

    • Mamang Pulis

      MAG KA LEAK SA IDENT NG MGA YAN TITIRAHIN YAN NG GRUPO NI MARATRAT

    • noyab

      i fully support you and we need to raise awareness on this issue among our kababayans to serve a warnings that the populace does not support this kind of a abuse……

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/WOQZ4TACZMBPIQV4UA6QVB4RSA noli

      Dapat lang, kung hindi, ubos pati lahi nila (witnesses) sa mga pusakal na mamamatay taong uniformado, para hindi desimulado sa mga hinayupak na mga walang sinasanto kundi pera, kapangyarihan, mga sakim at uto-utong alipores ng mga tiwaling politico at opisyal ng kapulisan, sandatahang lakas laban sa mga walang kalaban-laban. Sa madaling sabi matatapang sa mga walang laban, pero mga duwag sa parehas na laban.

    • $37644997

      Some cash would be fine.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      Mero n bang nag tanong kung bakit nakasama si luntok dun .?

      • koolkid_inthehouse

        that’s  not the issue.  

    • Paliwaweng

      I agree!

  • AngMandarambong

    All those involved with the killings should be arrested ASAP before they flee and disappear.

  • $37644997

    It’s jail time for everybody who shot indiscriminately and killed 13 men.No more no less stories to be told.Police and AFP men are guilty of the crime.

  • koolkid_inthehouse

    If the COPLAN ARMADO is approved, does it mean to massacre the suspects at whatever means and ways?  Then the planners and approvers should be investigated and charge for violating the BILL of RIGHTS. 
    We have to stop Martial Law and Suppression of Freedom of Speech right now.  We are going back to the dark ages.

  • opinyonlangpo

    They better get hold and secure MaRUNtan before he will do a PalpaRUN. These type of people are very good in hiding. You can ask sen. Lacson about it.

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    01. Secure the CCTV of the INC church nearby. Might offer additional information.

    02. Learn from mistakes of the past. Kuratong Baleleng had several key state witnesses within the ranks of PNP who were highly credible. But the case dragged on forever. The Witness Protection Program has always underbudgeted, leaving the witnesses and their families to fend for themselves financially. From various accounts, the conditions under the Witness Protection Program does not even qualify as spartan. Even with adequate budget, there’s no guarantee that the witnesses and their families will be safe after the trial. The courageous cop Mr. delos Reyes and the decorated cop Ms. dela Cruz who came out days after the Kuratong Baleleng rub-out eventually had to flee to Canada to seek asylum there. If possible, put a closure to this case before 2013 is out.

    03. Unlike the top two witnesses of Kuratong Baleleng, the 4 eyewitnesses in this case are namely one (1) truck driver and three (3) companions. If those two cops eventually could no longer withstand the long trial, the poverty imposed by the Witness Protection Program on their families and the lost opportunities in life not to mention threat to life and limb, the 4 witnesses of the Quezon Massacre are even more vulnerable given they’re just powerless and defenseless ordinary citizens. As early as now, DOJ should secure the families of all the witnesses and arrange for an asylum for them abroad. The 4 witnesses and their families will be targeted during and after the trial by those who do not want the truth to come out. Their families can choose to leave first and the 4 witnesses can reunite with them abroad after the case has seen a definitive closure.

    04. By securing the families of the witnesses abroad, this will lessen the psychological burden on the 4 witnesses as the case grinds on. The Kuratong Baleleng case dragged on for 17 years, from 1995 to 2012. By 2012, the Supreme Court under CJ Sereno ruled with finality in dismissing the case against Lacson et al. Had all the witnesses stayed the course, they would have wasted 17 years of their lives, and their families’ lives too. DOJ must secure the life and well-being of the witnesses’ families by arranging for an asylum for them abroad immediately.

    • RHumabon

      I hope your comments will be duly considered by Malacanang (including DOJ, NBI and DFA) and duly noted by the Supreme Court. . .Let Justice for Atimonan 2013 and Maguindanao 2009 be the impetus(es) with which the Philippines (and the world for that matter) will be seeing the end or the start of the end of many such horrific incidents where no individuals are made to account.

  • julieboy

    This is a classic example of what Pres.Erap called hoodlums in uniform.We dont know anymore who will protect the citizenry in time of need.Life is so cheap in our country.At the rate we are going who needs the RH bill,people are killed faster by guns than in the womb.It will be the blame game,turo an kung sino may kasalanan.Happy mga abogado defending this criminals,the victims are always dehado.Nakakatakot na talaga!!!!!!

    • koolkid_inthehouse

      Agree and all the Filipino tax money spent on this police screw ups.  PNP is very inefficient, they waste a lot of Filipinos money. 

      Removed all police who have pending cases and complaints.

  • diamond_digger

    I look forward to the day when lawmakers and authorities, rather than providing and or setting a budget for the Witness Protection Program would rather apply what Vice Mayor Digong Duterte did in the case of alleged carnapping syndicate leader Ryan Yu, where he offered, if i remembered right, P5.0M for Ryan’s literral head to be presented to him. If the meager funds of the Witness Protection Program would be utilized in the same manner, a lot of money could be saved. More importantly, it would serve swift justice to victims. So, instead of spending lots of money to keep this witnesses who will not be fully safe anyway, I would rather that they money will be used to look for hit men to give Marantan et al a ‘dose of their own medicine’. Chances are, this will send a chilling effect to the remaining scalawags in uniform would force them to mend their ways lest the would be joining their victims 6 feet below the ground.

    • $23455908

      Tama, Marami namang Pinoy eh. Buhayin ang mabuti , Ang masama’y i-cemetery!!!

    • Htee

      Magandang pakinggan ang panukala mo…GOV’T SUNCTIONED VIGILLANTE. ngunit may kaunting sala, bakit sa witness protection program pa kukuha ng pondo?? Eh, lahat ng gov’t department ay may naglalakihang “savings kuno”. Sobra sobra yun para maka hire ng pinakamagaling na hitman sa mundo.

  • Mike Moreno

    Mga bobo na pulis hindi alam ang rules of engagement. Hoodlums in uniform. wag na tayo pumayag sa mga ganyan. alisin lahat yan. 

  • http://pedestrianobserver.blogspot.com/ Political Jaywalker

     Somethings really fishy here and it smells rotten to the core and yes the palace has a lot of explaining to do particularly Ochoa. Why did PAOCC an agency under the president which he personally oversees taken in a suspect in the Dacer-Corbito murder case?

    How exactly do they expect to solve the criminality when Dumlao “sneaked in” under their nose and no one knows about it with the end result of 13 people massacred under Coplan Armado which he has approved?

    Was there big money involved that some wagging tongue says was about jueteng turf dispute thus the need to eliminate rival gangs at all cost?

    Either the perpetrators are too dumb thinking that they can fool the people that it was a legitimate operation when all indications points to a premeditated ambush massacre, or someone up above wants the proceeds so badly thus the impunity?

  • pasaway008ako

    Are these witnesses area residents or just happened to be there at the right place at the right time? That’s bullshit! Or P, P, P million. In other plain words million pesos is in trouble.

  • $29897073

    No Bail straight to jail. Maliwanag pa sa sikat ng araw! If the court allows this guy to post bail then,,,,,, Maratrat. That’s not good Cold Blooded Murderer

  • Andre Mitchell

    Ano ang problema sa PNPA?
    Bakit ang daming nakakalusot sa kanila na mga bugok?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYCOAGIL35OAIRH2T6QH3IZUMY Ike

      PNPA is not the rootcause of the problem. It is just a byproduct of our rotten system. People in general accepted corruption as part of our soceity. Before these young cadets enter the academy, they are very much aware of the corruption from Malacanang down to the Baranggay level. After they graduated they would even be used by their supperiors in their corrupt activities. A low salary, a badge & a gun is not a good combination, and why do you have to maintain your integrity and your honor when you will just be an outcast in a sea of corruption and irregularity. The fact that they just give Gen. Garcia 2 yrs jail time after returning P165M of the P365M that he had pocketed encourage footsoldiers and policeman to be more corrupt. Heck, Gen Garcia, kept P200M + mansions here and abroad + cars and he can live happily ever after once he goes out in 2 yrs. Talo nya pa tumama sa lotto 10x over. And this peanuts compared to what our govt officials make. But who put this Govt officials in the office in the 1st place? Its us!!! So if you had voted for Revilla, Sotto, Lapid, Jalosjos, Gloria, Erap, your corrupt Gov. or your corrupt Mayor,etc,  then you are part of the problem as well

  • http://enria.org/ scconcern

    Military and police are goverment employee (public servant tobe), they will always follow their plotocratic/ kleptocratic boss who employ them. How do we expect the citizentry not to support the third force in existing? 
    Worst the very foundation of governance, justice system, is elitis, undemocratic and dyfunctional. Pinoy should make the people participant in justice, especially in judging. 
    The new AFP chief promise to make CPP/NPA irrelevant, HOW? Joma once said, they(CPP/NPA) will be irrelevant only if there is social justice and true democracy, not the current PLUTOCRACY.
    History caption: Fidel Castro actually rebel against the plutocrats and abuses/exploitation of the peasant/workers.. Castro is nationalist, made Cuba socialist because of US bullying and survival of state.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/GTVNMZR22PGMS55WQPIJTYB4IY Jaime

      I agree with you.  How can he make the NPA irrelivant when he’s commanding a bunch of boy scouts?

      I feel sorry for the commom Filipinos there will be no justice only more heartaches and more sufferings.

  • brutsador

    List  of Gambling Lords from Sen.Santiago from Region IV A. Yung Jueteng Lord ng Quezon malapit yan kay Uncle Peping kaya untouchable, Grabe mag sugal sa Resorts World at tuwing may laban si Pacman lagi din ito na sa MGM at daming kasamang PNP officials bakit hindi ito imbestigahan kung talagang seryoso ang goberyno gamitin ang BIR at AMLAC tulad ginawa nila kay Corona, mukang selective ata ang pag sugpo sa corruption . Mr President ito ba ang ang matuwid na daan na sinasabi mo pag malapit kay Uncle Peping walang kaso.

    REGION IV-ACavite 1.6 M Atong Ang (Double A) Virtual 2 / 1-37Laguna 14.0 MDon Ramon/Boyet Aransa/Haruta STLBatangas 8.5 MSanchez / Cezar Reyes STLQuezon 7.5 MEddie Gonzales STLRizal 1.5 MElmer Nepomuceno / Tony Santos

  • DENAL

    pag hindi pa makulong ito, di na ako maniniwala kay Pnoy

  • japokjackpot

    jason bourne must be activated from retirement.

  • Guest

    I doubt if the case against Marantan et al will end in conviction. Ngayon pa lang, Ochoa is already being cleared. It’s just too early to rule out anyone just yet. Lacson is being considered for a government post.

  • Guest

    Mass Murderer Marantan

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    The culprits detoured traffic near the INC Chapel.  They did not want the ambush take place near INC Chapel because they would be in trouble.  It’s possible that the witnesses or one of them could be a member of INC.  This reminds us of the Kuratong Baleleng when the whistle blower was a cop who was a member of the INC.  His testimony pinned down the killers.  In the end, this INC cop was advised and helped by his church to leave the country and is reportedly now permanently residing in Canada.

  • efffyoufools

    question to de lima. why did the witnesses stayed 10 meters away from the shooting to witness the shooting? 

    • slymaple

       basahin mo kase. nasa truck sila. nataon sigurong naipit at napatigil doon kaya nakita ang nangyari. kaya nga pinaalis na ng sundalo pagkatapos ng barilan. video talaga ang kulang.

    • RHumabon

      From the above article:

      6 meters away

      NBI Deputy Director Virgilio Mendez said the witnesses were positioned about 6 meters from the two vehicles when the shooting happened.

      De Lima said THE WITNESSES , WHO WERE ABOARD A 10-WHEELER TRUCK, WERE NOT HARMED BECAUSE THEY LEFT AFTER BEING TOLD BY A SOLDIER TO “LEAVE IMMEDIATELY.”

      The truck of the witnesses was in the middle of the road, in front of the vehicles of Siman’s group. On the other side were the security forces.

      “They were really close and could see and hear what was happening,” Mendez said.

  • Rae_E

    Justice should prevail here. It’s obviously not a “shootout”. PNoy made a HUGE mistake by restoring Lacson to power. Lacson (like Marcos & JPE) who’s been tagged w/ the Kuratong Baleleng & Dacer-Corbito murders set the precedent to the likes of Palparan, Dumlao & Marantan. The Atimonan 13 will serve as a litmus test for this administration to stop impunity, we’ll be watching.

    • ryan andres

      Let’s hope the government takes the blinders off their eyes for this case… pero eto yung nakakatakot sir…the excerpt below is from an Inquirer article, “Bad(-guy) logic from PNP Director:

      Philippine National Police’s Director General Alan Purisima, when asked by reporters whether the shooting that occurred in Atimonan, Quezon, was a rubout or shootout, replied: “What rubout? The leader of the PNP team was injured and critically wounded in that incident. They (the casualties) were the ones who fired at the policemen and soldiers manning the checkpoint!”

      Kung ganito mentality ng kamote nating PNP director… ano kaya ang kalalabasan…

      • Isagani Gatmaitan

        For that loose statement alone, he should step down.

  • 33Sambuang

    marantando, killer kang buang ka……….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FXNIN7XJ52H6BOQLS7NRMO3GEA Lorelei

    puwede po ba mailagay ang pangalan sa isang coplan kahit walang arrest warrant ?

  • Simplify1

    Let us give this administration the benefit of the doubt.  If a Chief Justice can be dethroned, surely a lowly Lt.Col/Superintendent will be easier to kick out!!  TO PNOY AND MADAM DE LIMA… WE ARE WATCHING….. DON’T DROP THE BALL…

  • beerhunters

    “I warned ‘em guys before, never to mess with me, my business nor encroach into my turf. Still they won’t listen. There, that’s what they get for not listening to me!”

  • koolkid_inthehouse

    This country needs the following reform: Senate, Congress and Police.

    Criminals lives there.

  • bogli_anakdami

    hay naku, mga kabayang flips…. walang mangyayari jan… maniwala na kayo sa akin….

    hanggang “probes, re-enactment, witness tsismis, haka-haka” lang ang mga hinayupak na yan…

    taya muna kayo dito sa akin… ang tumama/binola kanina eh POMPYANG UNO…

    • UPnnGrd

       nakalimutan na….    mukhang wala ng mag-uusisa kung ano ang naging parte ni Crime Czar Ochoa at ng Malakanyang.

  • bogli_anakdami

    ang flipland eh kahalintulad noong circa 1900s ‘merkan wild wild west… barilan kuta-kutakot… walang hustisya…

    kaya sige lang… magpatayan kayong lahat at ng mabawasan ang flip gung gongs >>> 99M flips, di ba?

    • indiots

      tama.

    • lucidlynx

      mas maraming namamatay sa amerika, europa, at gitnang silangan kung ikumpara mo sa pinas. gungong!

  • bogli_anakdami

    yung mga squatters na itinambak dito sa santa rosa (the place is called southville subdivision) eh nagpapatayan araw-araw… walang imbestigasyon na ginagawa…

    palibhasa’y mga squatters lang, kaya walang pumapansin…. bwi hi hi hi hi pwi!

    hay naku, flips, puro kayo mga gung gongs!

    • lucidlynx

      sabihin mo kung sino ang namamatay araw-araw sa squatters. puro dada wala namang ebidensya.

  • Htee

    Anak ka ng teteng marantan, pinaligpit ko sayo ang napakasimpleng bagay, ang dumi ng trabaho mo. Akala ko ba expert kana sa mga ganitong gawain. Bakit pinabayaan mong may witness. Niligpit mo na rin dapat yung mga nakakita. Pambihira ka oo, grounded ka na muna, si dumblao na ang head leader sa susunod na hit. Balbon ang trabaho mo…pati ako masasabit pa sa kagagawan mo.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUZISWUMVDD5QJUC7GBJKEM7XA prangka

    Malalaman ba ang buong pangyayari kung walang witnesses? As usual, dito sa atin, kung walang witnesses – case unsolved.

  • nelsonkamloon

    Dead man tells no tale was one primary reasons to eliminate Lontok. The two witnesses that were in the scene has a testimony that is supposed to corroborate.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

    Tanong slang but Ann c luntok ?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OVP72XP7RU2OP7HX2PMD6N35BM Romee Fernandez

    Dapat sa mga police at militar na sangkot sa execution style na yan pagkatapos na magsilbi sa krimen nila e ipadala sa Spratly Island  o Paga-Asa Island  o sa North Borneo kaya at doon magbantay at ipagtanggol ang Philippine territory hanggang sa bawian sila ng buhay.

  • agaylaya

    This is really scary. If it can happen in Atimonan, it can also happen in anybody’s neighborhood. Right now, every time I come across a checkpoint (and there are many) and see a police car I immediately feel stressed – a feeling of fear mixed with anger. I feel that my supposed protectors are now my assailants. Ang tingin ko sa pulis ngayon parang handang gumawa ng kalokohan hindi kabutihan.

    • kawatancila

      tuatan sirin  ah… agay latan

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

    :-)

  • Jason Cruz

    Ingatan ninyo ang nga witness, nga govt, military at police officials are protectors ni Marantan
    sa massacre na ito.    

  • prosecutiongrandstandingsucks

    humiling ng congressional inquiry para dito si cong. suarez, thumbs up naman dito si speaker belmonte.  sa senado naman balak din magbukas senate inquiry c/o sen. greg honasan.

    sana magpagaling agad marantan, para walang dahilan para ma-snub subpoena.

  • el_latigo

    What happened there in Atimonan, Quezon is a variation of the infamous Maguindanao Massacre perpetrated by the murderous Ampatuan Gang este, clan. The question that remains now is will all the murderers led by homicidal maniac, Marantan,  be made to answer for this latest atrocious massacre that seem to increase  in these parts that will again put  this country on the map of the world’s most dangerous places? Judging how the government, thru the DOJ & the NBI are acting & conducting their investigations, tipong malayong ma-white wash ang kasong ito. Sana…     

  • Vertumnus

    Better keep those 2 witness under close protection otherwise they will end up like the witness against the Ampatuans, dead and forgotten.

    Seem to be a rise in high profile murders in the Philippines.  Just exactly what is going on with the PNP, AFP and Paramilitary groups.  They seem to be hell bent on total bloodshed instead of the rule of law.  

    What’s scary is that with the NPA, MILF, Abu Sayaf, you know who the bad guys are but with PNP and AFP, you just don’t know who the bad guys are.  You can’t trust the bad guys, you can’t trust the good guys, who the hell can you trust in the Philippines!

    • AZKID13

      Well said Vertumnus !!

    • Guest

      Lalong masaklap at kawawa ang taong bayan sa mga demonyong lintek na nagnanais na ang mga pulis at militar lang ang may karapatang magdala ng sandata.

  • anu12345

     “The Department of Justice (DOJ) has put the two
    witnesses, whom De Lima said had been under NBI custody for several
    days, on the government’s witness protection program.

    De Lima declined to disclose the identities of the witnesses”

    It’s not good idea to disclose their identities while in the WiPP. No brainer, of course

  • Love God

    If this new revaluations to be true, then it will really send shock-waves to the minds of ordinary Filipino.

    Now everyone seriously thinking whether to stop at a check point or not. Either ways you are presumed dead… 

    Try installing on-board camera (same used in South Korea, Singapore and other countries) which records all events like a black box when the car in use. This can avoid the use of a witness or his credibility in case of an incident like this. This can also trap kotong cops.

    Meantime, good luck to you all at all “choke-points”!  

  • Love God

    Sec. De Lima deserves maximum appreciation and praise for travelling to the crime scene and spent time with the NBI in search of truth in this important case. She could have stayed at her office and give instruction like other head of departments.  

    I wish you will be our next President.

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

      I call it grand standing.

      You see its her underlings who will appreciate it and make the recommendations whether to file or not file criminal charges. She has to be totally neutral when she reads the report and decide for a go/no go. Being there, and getting the testimony somehow prejudices her final decision, granted it will obviously be approved.

      2ndly, this could all be done without the press.

      • duviz7533

        check her attire,parang aatend sa gala ng golden globe award…..sa cheezzzze

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        hahahha,

        napatawa mo ako.

    • D_BystandeR

      Matagal ko nang “idol” ‘yan si DOJ Sec. De Lima, kahit noon pang panahon na gusto niyang pumalit sa pwesto ng na-impeached na CJ Corona dahil nakita kong matuwid ang kanyang paninindigan at may “fighting spirit” siya. Kaya ng makita kong nandun siya sa 
      reenactment sa mismong lugar na pinangyarihan ng malagim na krimen kasama ang mga NBI officials ay natuwa ako dahil alam ko na itong si Sec. De Lima ay matapang siya and she will not hesitate to say what she finds as glaring facts that are now slowly coming out. If she intends to run for President and she gets the necessary support and backing of the party I’m sure Mar Roxas and Jojo Binay will have a “run for their money”
      against Sec. De Lima.

    • niceguy60

      Ang di ko lang maintindihan eh bakit laging naka winter scarf. Maginaw ba sa Queson?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/FXNIN7XJ52H6BOQLS7NRMO3GEA Lorelei

        Oo naman Niceguy60, may kagat na ang simoy ng amihan sa Quezon

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AR3F3RNQX4U3PKBI526NJI6BYM Jose

    Please find the soldier/s who waived the truck through, they are potential witnesses and their lives are also in danger for “spoiling” an almost perfect script.

  • linobog

    Am just curious…  Some police officers were with Vic Siman, a known police character, the SUV they were riding has a PNPA plate…. if you are a good soldier, will  you accompany this man?  if you are a soldier armed with a mission order, will you allow your enemy to fire more bullets?  what will be your normal instinct?  to be riddled or self-preservation/defense ? Dig deeper… big money is involved here..

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

      “a known police character, the SUV they were riding has a PNPA plate…. if you are a good soldier, will  you accompany this man?”

      If i may, i shall offer a possible explanation.

      How would one know one is ‘police character?’

      If you remember, Vic Siman is now a police character to the entire population reading the newspapers, but would you have known him as a character of interest when you first know him? 

      If you ride the jeep, would you know who among the passengers you ride with have police records?

      If you were a police officer, would you necessarily know all the ‘police characters’ without being privy to intelligence reports, or order of battles plans, or coplans? If you were introduced to certain businessman who have pending white collar litigations against them, are they police characters.

      Simply, people view other people differently. One police officer’s ‘person of interest’ may be some other police officer’s friend or relative.

      “if you are a soldier armed with a mission order, will you allow your enemy to fire more bullets?”

      ummmm. i don’t understand the question.

      • D_BystandeR

        Nakuha ko kaagad ang motibo niya sa kanyang “line of questioning.” He is basing his questions on a wrong premise. Sabi niya si Siman daw ay isang
        police character. From what I read in the papers he is the only guy who is using the wrong classification of words to heavily influence the expected answer to his question. A “known police character” and a “bookie operator” are “poles apart.”
        Alam ko na ang style of questioning niya, sa mga abogado ‘yun ang tinatawag na “leading question.” I don’t buy his argument. He is clearly speaking in behalf
        of a group who is directly or indirectly connected to this carnage.

    • D_BystandeR

      You are muddling the issue. First, you contend that Siman is a known police character which is already a “promotion” from the reported “bookie” operator. I’m afraid you joined
      the discussion here with “hazy” information. Supt. Boy Consemino is a consultant/partner of Vic Siman in a Security Agency business and the police officer was with Siman on that
      trip in connection with the security agency business. Try to review reading your newspaper before opening your mouth. I know your purpose here is to advance your wrong theory that the “massacre” is justified. 

  • joerizal

    Lacson, Ampatuan, Marantan, Dumlao…padagdag ng padagdag ang mga mass killers sa Pinas.

    • niceguy60

      Eh paano they were able to get away with it.

    • duviz7533

      nakalimotan mo ang killer sa senado,adre, alam ng lahat kung sino yon

  • Atawid

    A big question – Marantan was first admitted to st Luke, hundred kilometers from the scene thus, it is not a life threatening wound and why St Luke of all the hospitals along the way. Is it because of the hospital’s notoriety of harboring rich, influential and of “good reputation patients”?

  • roy roy

    Way back in college activism we were told that PNP is the largest criminal organization in the Philippines. That when criminal syndicates are busted, it’s just actually a turf war of PNP protected gangs. The turf war could come from competition, double-crossing, a lower-rank encroaching on a higher-rank, etc. 
    It was hard to believe that the PNP is the umbrella organization of criminal syndicates (drugs, illegal logging, prostitution, smuggling, racketeering) but I think this event shows that it maybe true.

  • Atawid

    Dapat siguro Ilagay or I merge ang PNP sa dept of agriculture kc ma hilig ang mga police magnanimity.

    Suggestion, Ilagay sa SOP or coplan ng mga checkpoint na merong inventory ng mga baril ang kasama sa team. Kng wala Ito, no go ang checkpoint and if there are shoot outs, all the guns used by the team should be inventoried and surrendered for examination (unless of course magdala sila ng Hindi authorized guns at wala sa submitted inventory which is done always)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JBFFGHYFQWYZH4EFPHFWCF2SLM bryan l

    The fund is P900,000.00 to kill people. No wonder they really want to kill people. Criminals are arrested not killed. What is the motivation of this police superintendent? Why people like him and Palparan just kill like that?

  • Albert Einstien

    panahon ng pnoy admin…Wala na GANGNAM REPUBLIC na ba  tayo ngayon….SUMUSUKO na BINABARIL pa para wala WITNESS…..ky nga milyones na MIGRANTE at OFW ang tumatakas sa kahirapan, kriminalidad at walang hiyaan ng mga opisyal dito e …grabe!ganyan din panahon ni cory….mendiola massacre at hacienda luisita….ngayon atimonan massacre ..panahon ni gma maguindanao massacre…marami pa susunod jan..

    .congrats to doj de lima for NOTparticipating on the cover story…she should also report what happened to the alleged 100 million, gold & diamonds…. HOPE that ALL illegal ACTIVITIES & syndcate protection even by KKK should be exposed by her….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_X7ZXAWDLJZ4YDF2BTYTFXBNNEU ISCA

    Dont forget: all alleged shootouts with at least half a dozen dead on one side—mostly the cirminal side—are always cold-blooded killings…

  • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

    Witnesses.

    Dali lang mag add nyan, find the lowest ranking cop/soldier involved, check his participation on the  ‘ambush’ then ‘turn’ him into witness. destroy from within, army intelligence style.

    secret.

  • NAGMAMARUNONG

    KILLING BY THE DOZEN. DAPAT SI MARANTAN TUMAKBO PAGKA SENADOR – PWEDENG PWEDE SA UNA.

    • billy gunner

       mas ganado sa LP. tutal LP stalwarts naman ang puno’t dulo ng huweteng ngayon.

  • apojay

    Itong si Maratrat din pala ay kasamang pumatay doon sa seaman at anak (DeVera) niya sa paranaque, sa isa pang kaso ng rubout.  Tapos tuloy ang promotion.

    Paano sasabihin sa mga tao na huwag ilagay ang batas sa sariling kamay?  

  • Mattino2011

    QUestion now if PAOCC (under Ochoa) did indeed give approval, what would Pnoy do now? Absolve him?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ME73SJ2KNVTMNU4JMRMRLRYPVQ zom

      isang tapik lng yan! hahahaha! di niya pede sibakin yan.. papa nya si paquito ochoa :))

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LHTWUXKL5GQ66NGG73Z6EIMYZI june

      going by the speed by which pnoy absolved his KKK(kabarilan, kaklase, at kaibigan) who  are in trouble, there is no doubt that ochoa will be absolved.  remember how pnoy absolved all  those major characters in the luneta hostage fiasco like mayor lim, rico puno, et. al, the llamas boo boos, the cover-up in the naguiat bribery case, etc

  • divictes

    Jeez… You shot an unarmed man with hands raised and then cooked up lies to besmirch him? What kind of monsters are being produced by our police academy?

    • Dawn Dare

      Those who teach them that “kalawit” is an order of battle

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/A5CN52KKTWUHFZJZCWGMAIGZJM Gandalf

    Who can protect us from these murderers? 

  • kalikasanipagtanggol

    Isasakripisyo ng mga malalaking tao si marantan para hindi madawit si dumlao….bakit nakabalik si dumlao sa serbisyo kung hindi tinulungan ni pnoy sa pamamagitan ni lacson…..at ito marahil ang kapalit ng pagbaligtad ng testimonya ni dumlao laban kay lacson at erap!

    • niceguy60

      Ala Dacer at Corbito case pala mga involve dito? Abay senator na yung isa! Nagtago ng isang taon bigla na lang lumitaw. Sumalosep!!!!

  • kalikasanipagtanggol

    Sana lang yung pamilya ng dalawang testigo ay mailabas na ng bansa para mapalagay na ang mga testigo na kahit ano ang mangyari sa kanila ay segurado na ang kaligtasan ng kanilang pamilya…..pero ang tanong pumayag kaya ang mga amo ng mga akusado na magkabistuhan na talaga…………delikado ang dalawang ito dahil nakapuwesto ang mga malalaking tao nasa likod nito!

  • boss_dolpo

    As usual bibigyan kuno ng ukolang atensyon ang ganitong mga kaso. after 3 weeks o 1 month. Kahit itaga mu sa bato my sasabog na naman na bagong isyu para makalimutan na ang nangyari. Wala ngang ginawa yung doj sa lahat nang hazing cases dito pa kaya na malaking sindikato at kapit sa malacanang ang involve? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KZEBAUGBBXOSZBPR5HUZGZXV5U andy bonifacio

    Secure Marantan, Sigurado he is now conferring with Palparan how and where to hide

    • m1600

      sI PALPARAN ang kalaban mg a SALOT NA NPA sa tagal ng serbisyo nyan walng  bahid ng graft and corruption. 

      • Magsasaka

         pinagmalaki mo si palpa-run na mamatay ng babaeng estudyante at bago nya patayin ay pinagsasamantalahan nya muna, hindi ba isa ka rin sa mga nangrape sa kanila

    • basyong

      e hindi na kailangan si palparan dahil yung adviser niyan si ping lacson. sanay sa taguan at lilitaw kapag langit na.ayaw tanggapin ang impyerno na dapat nandoon siya.

    • milespacker

       Imbestigahan na rin yung sister. If she’s a jueteng lord then I’m sure she doesn’t pay taxes. She will be forced to reveal her source of income.

  • at-large

    Ayaw nyo itigil ang JUETENG ? COPLAN ARMADO is the answer go go go

    • aeon888

      Paano matitigil eh hindi naman kasama sa Order of Battle ng COPLAN ARMADO yung mismong kapatid ni Marantan na si Tita Dinglasan na ayon sa column ni Mon Tulfo at sa mga nalalaman ng mga taga Quezon at Laguna ay isa ding malaking Jueteng Lord.

      Sa COPLAN ARMADO, mga karibal lang at kakumpetensiya ng kapatid ni Marantan ang mga targets nila na ubusin. Hindi rin mawawala ang jueteng. Maiwan pa rin ang Jueteng operations ni Tita na kapatid ni Marantan at mas lalong lalakas sa lugar.

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

         honga, naging ‘turf war’ disguised as a police operation ang nangyari.

      • at-large

         Remember time will wait darating yan, on the other side of the kitchen the pot of water is now boiling LOL

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_44QGTQXFYHNVPNMX453LWBPMXM Opel

    how much was the fee for the soldiers?, sa pulis d na kailangan itanong, certified bwukaw na mga yon. pusta opisyal lang ang kumita at ilan kakutsaba nito. may pinahamak nanaman na enlisted man sa operasyon na ito. thats the problem when they adopted their code of silence para mapagtakpan mga kapwa bopol na opisyales nila. tsk tsk dapat pag hiwiwalay hiwalyin mga sundalo at pulis na involved para may kumanta.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4HFSI7JVVSU3GNKRU72Z2HPWXU Jen

      kahit paghiwahiwalayin mo mga yan di magbabago salaysay nila dahil yun ang totoo… ginampanan lang nila trabaho nila… they acted in accordance with the law… 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/FXNIN7XJ52H6BOQLS7NRMO3GEA Lorelei

        Bok walang kaso ni rekord si Lontok pero dinawit siya sa coplan … sa kanal nahanap katawan niya … tuklap ang 2 balikat niya … at may tama na malapitan sa ulo

        “Acted in accordance with the law …” ?????

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_44QGTQXFYHNVPNMX453LWBPMXM Opel

        Ginamit sila kamo ah at nagpagamit naman, d nla ginampanan yon legal na trabaho nila. 

  • batangsulpok

    Ito ang nakakatakot sa Pilipinas kaya maraming Balikbayan ang nangangambang bumiyahe sa mga probinsiya dahil mahirap ng mapadaan sa mga ganitong checkpoints at mapagkamalan, kung di man ay gawan ng kaso ng mga Pulis para magkapera sila.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/RHGHOHBIP2YGFUZ6JZ4IUHC724 rex

      ano ba sa palagay mo kaibahan nyong mga balikbayan sa amin na di pa napunta sa ibang bansa? wala naman a di ba?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4HFSI7JVVSU3GNKRU72Z2HPWXU Jen

      kaya payo ko sa yo pare coy.. ihinto ang sasakyan at pailawin ang loob nito para hindi ka mapagkamalang magnanakaw, syndikato at kurakot… nagkakamali ka na nangangamba ang mga kababayan natin na bumiyahe sa probinsya.. ang mga taong me atraso ang nangangamba pare coy… sa isip mo lang yan… gusto pa nga ng mga dayuhan na pumunta dito kahit ganito nangyayari dahil sa kanila eh mas malala pa… 

  • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

    Sino ba yung Army Special Forces Commander at bakit sya nag pa gamit.

    • Dawn Dare

      No innocent suspects in this case

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        Agreed.

        Just varying degrees of culpability.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OJWHBJLMWPTRUOZMN6JOMHLO2A Banana Na

    when you have witness like this, you never mention anything about the background of ths witness…sabi ay ang witness ay ang workers ng truck na binigay na passage na maka-labas sa incident na yan kasi nga di sila ang target ng mga etong suspects, sa palagay ba ng witness nito ay di tinandaan ang plate number ng truck nila, siguradong, hahanapin ang truck nito at ang company name nito at malalaman ng suspects ang name ng workers nito, wala silang lusot kaya magtakod na ang family nila at ang 2 witness nito…malakas ng kapit din ng mga suspects nito…territory ang pinag-aawayan ng mga jueteng lord nito, kung sino ang may hawak ng malaking territory ay mas malaking kikitaan nila ng pera, i doubt na alam din karamihan ng police at military soldiers ang tunay na operation nito baka sunod-sunod lang sila sa utos ng officer nila at di nila alam ang tunay na balak ng officer nila…sila ang COLLATERAL DAMAGES hindi si MARANTAN…..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4HFSI7JVVSU3GNKRU72Z2HPWXU Jen

      war shock din mga witness nila… di pa pinadaan muna sa counseling dahil sa trauma nila bagkus iniharap agad sa medya… ang sarap pa nilang ngumiti sa camera dahil me witness daw sila… tingin ko mga ABU SAYAF mga yan… sinong ayaw sa pera, libreng bahay, libreng makain, libre nood ng tv.., koryente, gwardyado pa… sa WPP na lang.. darating na naman ang araw na sasabihin nila na.. kamag anak namin si siman…

  • Magsasaka

    sana tuluyan ng malansag ang mga may pakana ng PAPUTOK at PAMUMUGO ng mga banong katulad ni MARATRAT na kailanman hindi yata nakaranas ng tunay na encounter at gun battle, duwagis sa madaling salita

    • m1600

      Si Jun lontok isang leftist ang middleman ni Siman sa NPA sa jueteng operation mga salot talaga ang mga NPA kaya wag silang nagmamalinis na wala silang patong sa jueteng sarap ng buhay ng mga mafia sa Netherlands pati sila naambunan ng jeteng. LOL.

      • Magsasaka

        bading ka siguro mahilig ka sa tsismis hehehe, mas salot ang katulad mo na isang panig lang ang nakikita dahil sa mga katulad mo eh nabubulok ang lipunan.
        kailan kaya maambunan ang mga kapamilya mo ng mga balang galing sa itaas mula sa mga baril na pinaputok ng mga kapwa mo mamamatay taong sundalo at pulis hehehe, sana bukas na

      • m1600

        kabit ka siguro ni KDR ng NPA na bading NA NAG OOROS SA wetpu mo hahahaha aminin humahaba ang ilong mo sa pagsisinungalong kapamilya na nga ni LONTOK ang nagsabi na middle man siya ni SIMAN sa mga NPA isa ka siguro sa mga nakikinabang sa inaambunan ng payola sa jueteng ng mga BADING na NPA na kaparehas mo HAHAHAHHA.

      • Magsasaka

        gawa ka ng panibagong thread tungkol sa mga NPA, doon mo sila birahin ng birahin hehehe, huling sagot ko na yan sa katulad mong bano na obobs pa hehehe

      • m1600

        unga ..s  basahin mo nga iyong iba kong post tungkol sa ATIMONAn INCIDENT wala ka talagang alam dapat sa iyo ibalik sa grade one USELESS ka panay dakdak magkano ba ang bayad sa iyo sa mga post mo.

      • m1600

        sana isinama ka na din sa antimonan walang pakinabang sa iyo ang lipunan PROPAGANDIST ka ng MGA KAPREHAS MO NA salot.

      • Magsasaka

        ahahaha sino ba ang mga lumalabas na mga salot sa atimonan masaker hindi ba mga kabaro mo, kapwa mo mamamatay tao, pumapatay para sa pera katulad ng gawain ng isang social climber na katulad mo hehehe

      • m1600

        wow alam mo ang social climber  charing na BAYOT ka talaga!

    • Kairosphil

      ang pumatay sa mga walang kalaban laban! yan ang karanasan ni manratrat… E assign sa Basilan tingnan natin tapang niya. dun siya mag checkpoint!

      • Magsasaka

        naku huwag ka ng umasa lahat ng drama ay gagawin nya huwag lang sya ipadala doon

  • $19291130

    Mga TATANG wag ninyong kalimutan inumin mga gamot ninyo oki????  After mainom mga gamot ninyo sige mag tsismis na kayo..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4C2SFYIH52Y2KR7QPZPHJO2XQQ sl1

    The president should dismiss all police & army officials and men involved in this ambushed and if warranted must be jailed for there crime. This the reason why there are so many criminals in our society because of this kind of police officials & men that corrupt.

    • Dawn Dare

      Non sequitur

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4HFSI7JVVSU3GNKRU72Z2HPWXU Jen

      ..THATS YOUR OPINION PARE COY.. its in our blood yan.. pinoy na pinoy.. turo ng mga sinasamba ninyong mga dayuhang espanol, hapon, americano… nung panahon ni lapu lapu.. matitino ang mga pinoy…kaibigan nila ang instik.. laging nagbibigayan ng makakain… 

      • Dawn Dare

        You should relearn your history. Who wanted to kill Lapu-lapu? Not Magellan, but Humabon.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/36NJPIQO7EYFTMST6XUPNHF7TE VincentR

    Poor PNoy! Another bad incident on top of the HK tourist
    disaster can only mean investors will have to think 10 x
    if all the hooplah about RP now being on the mend is
    just that, a boast. This is a Christian country?

    There must be something wrong with an administration
    that encourages its subordinates to be cavalier with
    guns. Where do they recruit these kinds of cops or
    soldiers, and what do they teach them during training?
    Why do they have blood thirsty officers in their midst?
    That lives can be snuffed out just like that, and no
    consequences will follow? To put it simple to these
    gun freaks, it just means another decade of wallowing
    in poverty.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4HFSI7JVVSU3GNKRU72Z2HPWXU Jen

      SIMPLE AS THIS PARE COY… less evil prevails… read the genesis in the bible.. 

      • Kairosphil

        less evil? evil pa rin kahit baliktarin pa! Good or evil lang!

  • DarkSideOfTheMoon2

    lahat sila photo mukhang di gagawa ng mabuti…..

  • Touch_Me_, Nuts!

    Higit na magulo ngayon. Trigger-happy ang mga lespu. Hehehe Ang Pangulo natin trigger-happy nga din kasi. Higit marami pa ang putukan na mangyayari pakiwari ko sa darating na halalan na ito.  Okay lang daw kasi kung ang Pangulo ay magdala ng paputok, ayon sa Comelec. Ginoo ko, naloko na! hehehe Ika nga sa lansangan: “Those who live by the gun, die by the gun.” Ang anak nang yumaong Ninoy ay kabaliktaran yata e! hehehe

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WN5TKEXEJ2VHQVNGP2CJEDLJH4 Jess

    I don’t think Marantan’s group would not have perpetrated the Atimonan massacre without approval from higher ups. it may not be pnoy, but one extremely close to him, and may be without pnoy’s knowledge or approval.

    • Dawn Dare

      Melad doesn’t look and smell like an innocent boss.

    • milespacker

      Who in his right mind would approve a massacre, politicians at that? I think the COPLAN itself was approved but the way Marantan conducted it was extrajudicial, was a usurpation of his authority, was criminal in nature and should be condemned. The COPLAN was approved but the massacre wasn’t.

  • Magsasaka

    ang sabi ni maratrat na walang experience sa tunay na encounter ay matagal na daw nilang minanmanan ang grupo pero lumalabas na walang order of battle, walang pending cases, walang warrant, walang police record ang mga pinatay nila ng walang laban, masama ba kung sasabihin ko na sana mapatay din ang mga mahal sa buhay ni maratrat ng higit pa sa dinanas ng mga pinugo nya.

    • m1600

      aNG UTAK MO hindi sibilisado pati mga pamilya na walang kinalaman sa gulo gusto mong idamay ang tawag jan CAVE MAN MENTALITY. 

      • Magsasaka

        talaga sibilisado para sa iyo ang ginawa ni maratrat, sabagay idol mo si palpa-run eh tama nga naman sibilisado para sa iyo ang pagpatay sa mga walang laban, another !diot with inverted brain hehehe

      • m1600

        HAHAHA BASAHIN MO YANG MGA POST KO kung ano ang sabi ko kay MARATAN . UR YOU UNDER DRUGS BOY?Mukang yang yagbols mo ang laman ng bungo mo.

      • Kairosphil

        nagtatanong lang si AL kung masama… kung Ang sagot mo ay masama…yun lang yun!

    • banditpogi

       Masyado ka naman malupit brod at hindi fair yon sa family niya.  Si Maratrat and company na lang itumba.

      • Magsasaka

        eh paano naman yong pamilya ng mga pinatay nila ng walang laban?

      • banditpogi

        Ang maganda diyan e ibigay si Maratrat at mga kakunchaba niya doon sa mga familya nung pinatay nila.  Bahala na sila kung ano gusto nila gawin.

  • PH2011

    If the statement of the civilian
    witnesses corroborated by any member of the contingent ( police or military )
    involved in the incident. Case solved.

    NBI should try hard to convince any
    member of the MILITARY soldiers involved in the carnage to be a state
    witness.  Offer them a new job at NBI as
    part of the witness deal/protection program, else no one will come forward.
    They all worked at the mercy of their military (and police) officers, their personal
    and family future is at stake.

    Why I suggest military soldiers and
    not the police (although the policemen are more qualified)?

    Well, the military soldiers involved,
    received the lesser share of the loot.

     

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4HFSI7JVVSU3GNKRU72Z2HPWXU Jen

    agad na naman kayong naniwala sa mga  reenactment nila… memoryado nila ang mga talsik ng bala at kung ano ano… tsk tsk tsk.. nakakuha na naman sila ng paid informant… parang mga abu sayaf… one sided pa rin yan… madaling maniwala ang tao kaya mga pare coy… iwasan ang mga pangiti ngiti sa harap ng camera… gwapings.. hindi makapagbigay ng statement ang mga taong involved dahil sa inyo mga pare coy… hintayin na lang ninyo silang magbigay ng counter-statement nila para ikumpara ninyo… dun sa mga me utak na hahawak ng kaso kayo magpapogi  at hindi sa masang bayan..pare coy… LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS DANGEROUS…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DRXM5DJDBWNZ6FEPZDIJYIATNA Billy Mosende

      hehe…di mo ko kayang lokohin. try again nxt time

  • m1600

    Si maranan DAPAT ANG inubos mo mga salot na NPA sa Bondoc penisula matutuwa pa sa iyo ang mga taga Quezon. From the highest govt officials hangang sa barangay captain pati mga NPA kasama na din sa sindikato ng jueteng. ANAK KAYO NG JUETENG.

  • Chihuahua

    Just like a Hollywood gangster movie shoot out in 3D. This is not at all different from the ARMM massacre of innocent civilians by murderers associated with a clan of southern warlord just a few years ago. This time you have a collection of questionable motley characters of military, police, and civilians (with the possible exception of a few innocent civilians caught in the melee with the wrong character and the wrong place and the wrong time) converging in an ambush or shootout.  PHL politics is very much a wild wild west where scores and grudges are settled by gunslinger but with deadlier automatic high powered weapons.         

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SC573R5VTMJ6ISRH635DJ2XVLI San

    So, what now?

    whitewash?  Give Marantan a promotion again? 

    Will this get to the root of the violence, J U E T E N G ?

  • tilamsik

    Thieves vs thieves?

    • Jeff Clint

      Do you mean Maratrat group, Siman group, the group of investigators?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AUHY7NAKYRSA2T24MJ5P7EAA6U junteddy m

    May pamilya ba si Maratrat?? E kung sa asawat anak nya kaya ginawa itong mga gnagawa nya

    • Jeff Clint

      Bakit may mga asawa’t anak na? Isn’t this incident between Siman group and Marantan group only? At saka kung ang mga asawa’t mga anak ni Maratrat ay mga Jueteng lords din, ay maaaring mangyari ang wish mo. KILL ALL THE JUETENG LORDS, DRUG LORDS AND RIDING IN TANDEMS!!!

    • banditpogi

      Palagay ko may penis envy hayop na Maratrat na yon kaya malamang wala siyang pamilya.

      Katapat lang niya yung kasama ko sa opisinang URAGON!!!

  • Pogi=”No To Political Dynasty”

    Lipulin ang mga Jueteng Lord!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/M3LQ4MUAU3Z36MIQGIGSOKBCQE Rosauro

    The Army Special Forces were made to believe by Marantan that the operation against gun for hire group of Siman was legitimate. I don’t blame the soldiers.

    • dongvee

       Are these soldiers that stupid?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYCOAGIL35OAIRH2T6QH3IZUMY Ike

        No Dongvee! That is just how they were trained, obey 1st before you complain. They were ordered there by their Commanding General in the context of augmenting the police force that is supposed to be a heavilly armed- gun for hire group. They will not ask for the details, its the job of the police. They were given the order to fire and they do. If they wont, that would be tantamount to dis-obeying orders and you could be under disciplinary action if not court martialed for dis-obeying orders. Civilians find it difficult to grasp but its just the way it is.
          It boils down to who gave the orders, who had the command responsibility. Thats why the insignia on your shoulder and the rank on your patch is not just there for decoration. Lives of your fellow soldier and countryman depends on it more than you can understand.

      • Kairosphil

        ..they were mis informed by their superiors?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYCOAGIL35OAIRH2T6QH3IZUMY Ike

        No, Their Superiors  were mis-informed by Marantan!!!

      • boss_dolpo

        hahaha.. obey first before you complain?? do you think this rule is absolute? and do you think this applies to this situation? you can always disobey the order if its so obvious that its against the law. They are soldiers of Filipino People not of the government, they should be responsible enough to know if the mission is valid and what their doing is with accordance to the rule of law.  Wala na bang common sense ang mga sundalo natin? na hindi nila alam ang mali sa tama? tsk tsk tsk..

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYCOAGIL35OAIRH2T6QH3IZUMY Ike

        you clearly dont know anything about the military, how they function and how they work. It is totally different from civilian life. In the military, Everything is governed by rules and instruction. You follow orders, thinking is done by your superiors, You pass down the instruction to those under you, Thats what you call chain of command. Break the chain of command and you’ll be court martialed.
          Obey 1st before you complain!! It is absolute! and yes it applies to this situation! In that situation, it doesnt seem to be againts the law! because they are following orders to help the police in apprehending criminal elements. That’s how they understand it at the moment, because they are trained to obey their superiors who are supposed to be doing their job with integrity and honor.
          They were given order by their comanding general to support Marantan. They come in good faith that Marantan is apprehending a gun for hire group. Marantan gave the order to fire! And they have to follow order. But when Lontoc come out with a raised hand and was summarilly executed, I guess they realized something was not right. But they cant recall back the bullets that had left their gun muzzes,

      • banditpogi

        I think you already answered your own question.  Soldiers can always question an illegal order like when a soldier is ordered to execute a prisoner. 

        In the case at hand, it would have been very difficult for an ordinary foot soldier to pause and gather his thoughts to determine if an order to “fire” by the ground commander is illegal or not considering the kind of briefing that they may have been given that the occupants of the two vehicles are heavily armed gun-for-hires.

        If, however, the soldiers where briefed beforehand that the occupant of the 2 vehicles are unarmed ladies engage in the flesh trade, then the scenario would have been very different and the soldier unlikely to follow the order to “fire” at beautiful, sexy, long-legged ladies in mini-skirt :)

        The soldiers where expertly primed by Maratrat to follow his order by psychologically prepping them to the threat of imminent danger at hand.

      • Magsasaka

         they are not stupid, imagine a soldier will debate a certain command or order, do you think you can accomplish a mission with a debating soliders?

      • Kairosphil

        iba ang training ng sundalo.. iba ang pulis!

      • boss_dolpo

         then what do you call them? kung ikw ang isa sa mga sundalo at tinanong ka nga pamilya ng mga biktima kung bakit mu sila binaril hanggang mamatay, anu isasagot mu? I’m just following orders?hahaha.. kaya pala marami paring NPA ngayon dahil sa mga berdugo at bobong mga sundalo

      • Magsasaka

        no bro, be logical a mission is like a battle, you can never win a battle with a debating soldiers, foot soldiers details of the mission is the mission itself, for example to apprehend those inside the vehicles by following their ground commander which is maratrat, when maratrat says fire a soldier will not ask why.don’t blame the foot soldiers because they don’t do planning they just follow order and do what they were trained to do.

      • boss_dolpo

         tsk tsk tsk.. is the rule absolute? can we apply that on this incident?

      • Magsasaka

        i think so, they may have accountability for firing their guns, but they will not be there for the mission if their CO did not order them so

      • boss_dolpo

        its not a question of being there.wlaang namatay kung nandun lang sila at sumunod sa rules ng checkpoint.Not that they may have accountability, they will definitely be accountable for their actions. And its no surprise that the military is always involved in human rights violations throughout the history of Philippine Government since a lot of our military personnel believes that this rule is absolute. So expect more of this in the future. God bless Philippines.

      • Magsasaka

        you are correct but my point is for the foot soldiers to take the rap will be unfair, there is an existing rules of engagement but the reality is the ground commander is the rule, i am sure those soldiers knew nothing about the ambush or rub out, they didn’t know that they have been used in executing a crime.

  • Immortal

    Total gun ban na talaga dapat pati sa police. Dapat stun gun or taser or rubber bullets na lang ginagamit ng police. Mga SWAT na lang dapat humawak ng tunay na baril at sundalo na sumasabak sa giyera. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4RIWX2NVLGVCWL7Y35LPICG7NU Thao

      I have been lived abroad in different conutries. Vietnam for example, youll be surprised to see that local police force are not allowed to carry guns. Only few selected police units are permitted to carry. It’s so normal to see cops on the street with full uniform but with no guns. They have special unit like 113, Co dong who are fully armed. But these forces ae already specialized units comparable to SWAT or SAF in the Philippines

    • tarikan

      Sila comrade kaka at Abu Sayyaf/MILF/BMIF/BMFF/MNLF Lost Command dapat taser or stun gun din ba ang dala? Sila comrade kaka kung nangongolekta ng revolutionary tax dapat stun gun laang ang dala hindi yung mahahaba, bigay agad tuloy yung mga sinisingil. Buti pa ang mga Bombay napagsasabihan na balikan na lang bukas.

  • http://karmaeconomics.blogspot.com/ lavista4u

    I’m not a filipino, but this is so barbaric, I have been to Philippines, Filipinos are good people , they do not deserve to die horrible death like this…

    I understand about mafia, juetang lord thing, but still this is so horrible for anyone…

  • m1600

    yUNG MGA AFP personnel magsabi kayo ng totoo hindi kayo papanigan ng bagong CSAFP his father Gen TEOFILO BAUTISTA  TOGETHET WITH MORE THAN 100 soldiers were  killed by the same treacherous incident more than 3 decades ago in PATIKUL SULU. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYCOAGIL35OAIRH2T6QH3IZUMY Ike

    Marantan suddenly sprung a checkpoint sign and the miltary block the path with a truck. Marantan ordered them out of the vehicle. Vehicle occupants did not budge.
      Off course they would not budge. LtCol Consemino knew Marantan, they used to be friends. Marantan is junior to him by 12 yrs in PNPA. You were not supposed to be given instruction by your underclassmen, its an insult to your rank and seniority and Military and Police officers dont go out of their vehicle at checkpoints. They just roll down their windows and introduce themselves. Vic Siman wont budge as well, he  is waiting for Consemino to settle the issue. Consemino & Marantan are looking at each other eye to eye. Marantan gave the order to fire.
       Coplan Armado is a legitimate operation, It was coordinated to local police in the area and they even ask the Army for augmentation force. PAOCC knew about it. But it is up to Marantan group to implement the coplan in proper procedures and within the confimes of the law which is beyond the control of PAOCC & the Army. Off course the Army would open fire, that’s how they were trained and that’s why they were there, They dont know the details of the Coplan but the mere fact that it was coordinated to their Commanding General means its legit.
      Why did Marantan gave the order to fire?. Why did he summarilly executed an un-armed surrendering civillian and pepper him with bullets as he fall down in a roadside canal?? Well thats the job of the NBI to find out. May due justice be serve to everyone who deserve it.

    • m1600

      good observation sir!  

    • indiosbravos2002

      Although it was the soldiers who opened fire, they were just following orders. I have not heard a foot soldier questioning a ranking officer’s order during operation. That is treason and subject to court martial. I believe Martnan and the ranking officers (lieutenant and up) should get the brunt of any punishment. They deserve the death penalty for murder.

      • Kairosphil

        maybe that’s the reason why the Army let go of the civilians who witnessed the crime..Matino pa rin ang Army kesa Pulis? 

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

         Agreed.

        pero lets not discount the possibility that Marantan already poisoned the minds of the army men, telling them that the ones coming in are inherently bad to the bone.

        I would imagine their surprise when the victims included hi ranking PNP personnel and fellow soldiers.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

        I strongly agree,  death penalty by firing squad to taste the same bullets that they used to kill.

  • tra6Gpeche

    Marantan and his men are all savages and lawless. Without these sort of law enforcers, the PNP organization might gain some respect. We have laws to obey and followed. Otherwise, let us all forget being civilized!

  • graciano82

    The rules of engagement condemns and bans the killing of a person who is surrendering even the Geneva convention on war crimes says so. I am ashamed as a Filipino to be informed of this ghastly report concerning a person who raised his hands to surrender yet peppered with bullets to die in treachery. Are these killers barbarians or primitive people living in the stone age?

    • indiosbravos2002

      Remnants of martial law training courtesy of Ping Lacson and co.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

        martial happened decades ago and u are still using it,  when can u get over with it?  Its the present corruption in the police and military that is causing all these troubles

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        martial law training? Eh baka kapapanganak pa lang nitong si Marantan noong martial law ah, pano nangyari iyon?

      • indiosbravos2002

        Di training ni Lacson at Dumlao. Kanino pa matututo etong si Hansel?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4HFSI7JVVSU3GNKRU72Z2HPWXU Jen

    pinalalaki lang ninyo ang kaso na yan dahil pabor sa inyo mga pare coy… sigurado na me maluluklok sa pwesto ng dahil dyan.. sa umpisa pa lang kabikabila na ang pose nyo sa camera pare coy.. ang coplan, oplan, implan na naipasa kahit walang pondo nyan ay tuloy tuloy yan basta pirmado… kawawa nga ang mga operatiba natin na kahit walang naibigay na pang gasolina ay ginagawa pa rin nya trabaho nya… galing pa sa sariling bulsa ang gastuhin nila.dahil sa maliit ang dumarating na intel fund sa kanilang nasasakupan pare coy.. WAG ISISI SA PULIS AT SUNDALO ANG LAHAT PARE COY… kung naibigay lahat ng PAOCC ang pondo nila, malamang na maraming palamuti ang nakalagay sa daan para mapansin nina siman na me checkpoint…hindi yung kahoy lang ang binubuhat na karatula… ok yung idivert ang daan para siguradong macorner ang mga syndikato na kanilang target… yan ang tunay na pagpapakita ng indigenous talent ng nasa field… ME MGA REAKSYON BA ANG MGA PARI NGAYON??? GUSTO NILA YAN DAHIL NABAWASAN ANG MGA HINAYUPAK NA JUETENG LORDS NA YAN.. BAKA SABIHIN NILA… LESS EVIL PREVAILS… ang labanan ng good vs evil ay nasa bibliya pare coy… 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

      ang galing ng ingenuity nila ano,  patay lahat hahaha

  • m1600

    Buti yung ARMY ang nag paalis sa truck driver na naging statewitness  kung nagkataon  baka naparehas sila sa maguindanao pati yung mga cuvilian na hindi kasama ni mangudatu nadamay din.
    Dapat alagaan ng DOJ ang mga testigo they are risking everything for a mere 5000.00 a month allowance.

    • Kairosphil

      Buti Army hindi Pulis! DI na siguro naisip ni Manratrat na isama yun mga nakasakay sa truck..

      • m1600

        swerte nila bro . kung nag kataon TRUCK DRIVER biglang naging GUN FOR HIRE, JUETENTENG LORD ang head line.

  • Stupidcupid Ako

    U r such a brave man Mr. Lontok. May u rest in peace.

    • m1600

      tanong lang po ano ang ginagawa ni Jun Lontok in the company of SIMAN known to be a GAMBLING LORD ? As environmentalist I know that he oppose small scale mining that is degrading the environment but he was present during the meeting of the group with a known big time gold miner in PARACALE camarines norte.

      nadamay siya sa mga illegal but that its not a justification for a gangland style massacre of MARATAN GROUP.

  • johnlordphilip

    At least we still have the NBI and DOJ where witnesses can (somehow still) trust with.

  • denky31

    Sec de Lima. Best looking forward that through an expeditious proceedings, the DOJ shall file the appropriate charges against the assailants. These alleged killers must be brought to justice the fastest possible time so that the families of the victims craving for an early resolution to their sorrows and griefs be enlightened knowing that the wheels of justice is bound to its course.

    The aphorism of Justice delayed is justice denied should be discourage to eventuate in the prosecution of this horrible crime Secretary so that a windfall of appreciation be accorded not only to you but to the gov’t. as well for a job well done. This early, I convey my humble appreciation

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GYYFBINDMTZHM6TDHPB667452M agustin

    THAT IS HIS FATE, HE IS AN ENVIRONMENTALIST WITH A CONNECTION TO NPA AND MOONLIGHTING AS COORDINATOR OF VIC SIMAN FOR OPERATION OF JUETENG.HE KNOW THAT JUETENG IS ILLEGAL BUT HE IGNORED THIS.

    • robertcarino

      how do you know this, agustin?  even the AFP already said that Lontok was not connected to the NPA.  the question now is… why do you write these things?  are you being paid?

      • m1600

        READ PO NYO ANG ARTICLE at previous news(INQ) sa broadcast media(GMA,ABSCBN) even his relatives inamin na he was helping SIMAN in his jueteng opn sa NPA . It is a open secret that from the highest govt officialto the brgy captain including ang NPA may patong sa jueteng hindi makakapag operate ang jueteng pag walang blessng sa NPA same din sa mga govt armed personnel. Jueteng lord is so powerful kumare ng ni GOYA si mayor Pineda wife of original Gambling lord.

      • boss_dolpo

         oh my god. pansinin nyo naman ang propagandistang ito. haha. Military intel sh*t.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        nabasa ko rin ang unag report ukol sa sabing tumutulong or nagiging daan para makausap mga NPA… nasa unang balita iyon ng inquirer tungkol sa “shootout” na ito… malamang di  mo nabasa.. check na lang sa archives ng inq…

      • m1600

        ikaw ano ka propagandist ng mga sira ang ul..o hahahaha tangapin ang katotohanan dapat sa iyo maligo sa ilog pasig kasing baho mo.

      • Magsasaka

         agustin and m1600 are related, both are posting irrelevant comments, both are right wing propagandist 

      • boss_dolpo

        totally agree. nakakaawa nga sila eh. typical pinoy na chismoso kung mag comment.hahahah

      • m1600

        iisa lang kayo ni antonio luna parehas na yagbols ang laman ng bungo nyo. hahaha

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GYYFBINDMTZHM6TDHPB667452M agustin

        If you read the news a week ago. Vic Siman complained to Lontok that the NPA is harassing his jueteng operation at southern tagalog area.Lontok had stopped the NPA for this activity.

    • boss_dolpo

       kawawa ka naman.. kailan kapa kaya makakabili ng utak? pare advice ko sayo.. pumunta ka nga divisoria baka may sale dun ng utak,…

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

        hahaha,  pahiramin mo na lang

  • TEAM PNOY

    Pag utak pulbura ang hepe, utak pulbura din ang mga subordinates. 

    Kailan ang practice shooting? This week end ba?

  • Charles Lim

    Murder is murder regardless of the reason.
    Follow the rule of law.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/C6JNBSASOMJPKK63TBJUYCVWXQ Emman

    ….kahit walang sahod ang mga pulis…….marami parin ang magpupulis kasi nga paniwala nila madali yumaman……….ikumpara nyo……teacher na bagong grad vs teacher na bagong grad……after 5 years……si titser wala paring ipon……loan marami……si pulis….may motor …kotse…..bahay…maraming asawa…….bakit ganun di ba pareho lang rates nila……dapat maging policy na ang pulis hanggang 3 years lang tapos after that ….papagresign na okaya iikot ang trabaho……..say maging titser sila for 3 years tapos…balik ulit sa pagpupulis…….okaya lahat ng pulis dapat malagay sa contrata na hanngat nasa serbisyo sila…sa isang community lang sila titira…bawal maginvest..business bumili ng properties……..ano man ang makita na proiperties sa kanila sa labas ng commuity na nakaaasign sila…madeclarang…peoples property

    • alberto santiago

      TO SERVE AND PROTECT not the people but the influentials, big shots, syndicate, politicians, crime organization, hoodlums etc…. iyan ang police sa ngayon. Hindi naman lahat pero marami in all ranks; maging military rin. Ka liit ng sueldo naka Montero, Starex, Hyundai Sta.Fe, Ford E-150, Humvee, mansion ang bahay, may palaisdaan, beach resort, condominium, malalaking lupain. etc….

    • scorpio15

      Mag-Pulis ka na. Makapag Montero Sports ka pa. Siyempre yayaman talaga sila. Hintay lang sila ng lagay sa lahat na krimen na kanilang pinoproteksionan. Ang sahod ng mga Pulis na merong Raket ika nga pambili lang ng Asin at Suka yon.

  • Rovingmoron

    Money is the root of all evils. Most of all, it destroys your character. But to most people, money gives you pleasure and satisfaction in life. On the contrary, money can kill you. That’s what happened to Vic Siman and his group. Now Supt. Hansel Marantan is in real trouble because of money, money, and more money.

    • Luiting

      Money is not the root of all evil.. it’s “the love for money.” As for your succeeding opinion: I strongly agree.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

        hahaha, correct!

      • Guest

        The love of money is A root of evil. Man’s inhumanity to man IS the root of all evil.

  • Rovingmoron

    What the new PNP chief can do is to rotate all police personnel in the regional level every six months. In this way, they can’t think of a way to get into any hanky-panky or monkey business in the area they are assigned. Try it, Mr. Purisima!

    • alberto santiago

      Bakit nga ba Sec. Roxas na parang nakikiusap ka kay Marantan gaong you have the authority and power to command him to submit to investigation and slugs. Bakit may itinatago rin ikaw at may hold si Marantan sa inyo kaya ayaw sumunod? Hindi ganyan ang tunay na lider, you should be strong and sometimes compassionate.

      • banditpogi

         Oo nga.  Parang walang bayag si Mar Roxas.  He should use the full force of the law now to go after Maratrat.

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

       the proposed solution poses new problems too. ie. continuity of programs.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LHTWUXKL5GQ66NGG73Z6EIMYZI june

    I read a few days back where mar roxas “advised” marantan to cooperate with the nbi probe in view of the latter’s refusal to have his wound (self-inflicted?) checked as well as surrendering the slug.  this certainly shows that mar roxas is a weakling that instead of “ordering / directing” marantan to cooperate he appeared to be “pleading” to this “rub-out” specialist.

  • kilabot

    marami sira ulo sa pnp at military; 
    pati na sa ehekutibo at hudikatura mga sira ulo din; 
    welcome to the ampatuan syndrome, the new normal.

  • dorothyanne88

    Marantan as revealed by his past dark skirmishes with the alleged lawless gangs is a notorious ruthless killer who hides behind a PNP uniform. He’s a dangerous person. He’s seems to have a killer tendency, a psycho killer who lurks at the dark awaiting for his defenseless prey. Just by keenly reading all the newspaper reports about his dark past, whereby all the gangs they run after were killed in a defenseless manner, places him to this state of mind.

    Marantan should first be subjected to a neuro psychological test pending his trial to ascertain the stability of his mind. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

      good suggestion and if found to be so,  he should be incarcerated in the mental hospital.  The civilians will always be in danger with him on the loose.

    • milespacker

       I agree. My deepest sympathy goes to the family of the father and daughter killed in Paranaque. It was only recently I found out that that incident was also one of Marantan’s handiwork.

  • thecop

    What is happening to our country Mr. President?!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

    Its pure and simple massacre.  The guilty should be apprehended and punished severely.  They should not only terminated out of their jobs but also be imprisoned and better still to face the firing squad.  Crimes and drug smuggling are rising unabated but the PNP  looks like no power to stop the rising crimes and drug smuggling.  They should concentrate their efforts on this rather than killing innocent people.

  • m1600

    I abolish na ang PNPA  training grounds sa corruption dapat galing na lang sa ROTC advance course ang kunin na pulis .

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

       outsource na lang natin.

      • Pluma Mana

        tama.. outsource sa MILF o sa NPA o kaya sa sindikato.

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        ahahaha,

        tapos lahat ng ‘civilian’ dapat armado din, since their safety is their foremost priority.

        in a sense, pag na checkpoint ka, pwede kang lumaban knowing that who you assault is morally bankrupt. in that sense it gives new meaning to ‘ipaglaban mo ang katarungan!’

        lol.

    • boypalaban

       dami ring kurakot na officer ng ROTC….daming nagpapabayad lang para ok na kahit di pasukan ang MS11,MS12….

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MZOKC6X7Q52Z4E5VLYNB7GF72Y Kaloy

         Tama yun basta may arrangement puede ka nang matulog every sunday. Kaya lang ang grade mo passing grade lang. So what wala namang gamit ang ROTC after graduation.

      • m1600

        nag bayad ka ba? then you are part of corruption if you did pay just asking ? 

      • boypalaban

         hindi

      • m1600

        paano mo nalaman kung hindi kla nagbayan just asking no ham intended ?

    • boss_dolpo

       then?? frustrated PNPA just good enough to be an ROTC officer.hahahha.

  • parengtony

    Hindi ba dapat arestohin na ang mga suspects dahil sobra sobra na ang prima facie evidence o probable cause? At ang hindi pag submit ng personal affidavits ng lahat na sangkot pulis at militar ay maliwanag na insubordination.

  • rhan duke

     PNP is mandated to serve and protect the people. Tapos kung makapag-depend ng budget nila sa GAA? Jesus. Are we citizen-taxpayers getting the best quality service we deserve from our police? 

  • rhan duke

    PNP is corrupt, hideously corrupt. NBI ganun din, ano ba yan… 

    • John_Cruz

      NBI more professional when not intoxicated. PNP always monster clowns!

  • regd

    Tanong ko lang po: Kung sundalo ka at same situation tapos sabi ng commander mo “FIRE”, can you be prosecuted in executing the order? (Set aside the moral & ethical obligation)

    • boss_dolpo

      dont need to explain the obvious. syempre.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYCOAGIL35OAIRH2T6QH3IZUMY Ike

      Deffenitely you will be prosecuted because there will be an investigation and a court case would soon follow. It is then that you had to prove that you are just following order from your commander or commanding officer. They will then determine if what you had done follows the rules of engagement. If they found out that you are within this clause then the liability falls on your commander, not you. You may be proven not guilty.
       If you were ordered to shoot an un-armed civilian with his hands in the air then it is clearly againts the rules of engament and the Geneva convention. It is then a different case and you will be liable to your actions.

    • Janch

      They were not just executing an order.  They were part of the conspiracy. They were also part of the cover-up. This wasn’t a operation to catch criminals but a liquidation of a rival syndicate.  Those soldiers were probably well compensated for their part.

  • bagombong

    Di ba sabi ko na noon na  I smell something fishy of what happened ? sa ginawa nilang walang binuhay kahit isa ay to make sure no one will tell the whole story of what happened…planado talaga nila ang patayin sila…di nga nila kilala ang mga target nila kundi si Vic Siman lang talaga ang kailangan nila….ipakita nila kung anong kaso ang bawat isa ang kinasasangkutan nila. That was not a legitimate operation…sabi ko noon na mahirap makipag-barilan kung nasa loob ka ng sasakyan at nakikita mo sa dami nila sa labas…kaya hayun may lumabas na witness…buti nga sa kanila..dapat nga arestuhin agad sila at ikulong na…may due due process pa sila , kitang kita na na summary execution ang ginawa nila.

  • MNLFoodcritic

    Jojo Ochoa has been one of the dirtiest of Pnoy’s men. He authorized the massacre of the rival gang. They earn tens of millions from jueteng. This Ochoa must be prosecuted and put behind bars.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/36NJPIQO7EYFTMST6XUPNHF7TE VincentR

    Yes. Have you heard of the Nuremburg trials of the Nazis after WW2? There, Nazi officers who disobeyed orders to kill were treated more leniently than those who went the other way. The fact that soldiers are raised to follow orders within a chain of command does not exonerate them from distinguishing what are lawful as opposed to unlawful orders because they are still part of a society that depends on the rule of law. Maybe military folks who have been taught the myths of absolute obedience do not realize the risks they are taking for not knowing any better. They should realize that they are not exampt from coverage of these constitutionally guaranteed rights no matter how inflated their sense of invincibility while in uniform, because when the law catches up on them they will pay with their lives, no matter how long it takes or wherever they hide. Only in totalitarian states can they die without paying for their crimes, but that’s a totally different matter everywhere else 

    Note: your question cannot be answered by divorcing it from ethical and moral principles except in an abstract or conceptual way.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H47CPJUE4QYKFUCKSUXK3LNBGI Allan

    supposing some of the people in the two vehicles were listed as persons of interest, cases of homicide must still be filed against those who participated in the carnage. those killed did not even resist and yet they were peppered with bullets. 

  • katabay1106

    Supt. Melad said the operation was approved by the PAOCC and the head of this commission is Executive Secretary Paquito Ochoa. Now there are witnesses to charge those who planned and participated in this gruesome massacre which is non-bailable. What is keeping the DOJ from charging all those who conspired for murdering these 13 people?

  • wehd1nga

     shootout no multiple murder yes…

  • billy gunner

    sasabihin na naman ng paslayo dito na si gloria ang may kasalanan ng lahat ng ito! lol

    • Markov Chain

      shut the F&^( up with that already….luma nang tugtugin yan pre…para kang politiko…

      • billy gunner

         totoo naman e. tanong mo pa sa kanila! lol

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AUHY7NAKYRSA2T24MJ5P7EAA6U junteddy m

    Marantan has sold his soul to the devil, pathetic..sana multuhin ka ng mga biktima mo!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AUHY7NAKYRSA2T24MJ5P7EAA6U junteddy m

    Sa Checkpoint pwede ba basta pababain mo ang nakasakay sa sasakyan at arestuhin ng walang warrant?? e un ipaopen nga lang glove compartment bawal na sa checkpoint..And then ratratin pag d bumaba..onli in da pilipens!!

  • boypalaban

    CHECK that your jueteng rival is trapped
    POINT the gun and shoot!

  • Markov Chain

    lahat ng operasyon ni marantan, ang mga biktima patay lahat…sana ipadala nyo si marantan sa spratlys or scarborough….kaya nya ang mga lintik na insect este intsik na mayayabang….

    • boypalaban

      sana pwede rin siyang panlaban sa mga pesteng daga at anay….para tepok lahat…

  • billy gunner

    si gloria ang may kasalanan sa lahat ng ito! lol

    • don alto

      Saka si Corona … lmao!

  • Pluma Mana

    “But sacked Calabarzon police director, Chief Supt. James Melad, told
    reporters on Wednesday that the disapproval was only on funding. The
    operation itself was approved, he said.”

    Ochoa knows how to wash his hands well and sanitize them thoroughly.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IJIUASZHAVUI2ADFY75TX5276A ALFREDO ALEX

    BAKIT NAPAKABILIS UMAKSYON NI ATTY. LEILA DE LIMA SA KASONG ITO PERO HINDI GUMAGALAW SA KASONG PAGPATAY KAY ENVIRONMENTALIST/BOTANIST LEONARDO CO AT 2 SA KANYANG MGA KASAMA NA NAMATAY DIN? PAKISAGOT NGA, ATTY. LEILA DE LIMA.

    • billy gunner

       epal kasi

  • Gat Peps

    Based on this report, a horrid massacre.

    What is happening to our country? The consciousness of many Filipinos are so full of evil thoughts, angry feelings and hatred.

  • bogger007

    Kinopya ang ginawa ng mga Ampatuan. Pati style ni Lacson kopya din. Magiging Senador to pagdating ng araw.

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/iV0XkkNontlsHWTkG2jcuz.PB64A#6b054 F alonso

    hindi pwedeng arestuhin mga Organized criminals kasi wala ding tatayong witness laban sa kanila.Bumaril din pala yung driver ng Montero,dapat weed out talaga mga yan,rubout or massacre is the only option.

    • http://twitter.com/d3marketers SAMMY

      Nasa Pilipinas tayo bro hindi to Afghanistan

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/6DTNBPJJUJCPAJNKUH6PBC7UBE stoneridge

        at saka democratic country tayo bro.

    • boypalaban

      sana imasaker din yung mga nag masaker…
      natural lang na babaril ang nasa alanganin…
      pero si Marantan na nasa magandang lugar, binaril ang sarili para paawa effect…hahahahaha

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/6DTNBPJJUJCPAJNKUH6PBC7UBE stoneridge

        bugok ang utak mo, eh di kawawa naman ang mga walang kasalanan na nasa
      loob? Bumaril ang nasa Montero kasi puro tama na ang mga kasama nya.
      Instinct lang to defend yourself kahit papaano makaganti man lang kahit
      hindi patas.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FOPMU3EOVKFANYIWAADV7EZAXU Divina Wind

    What would happen to the witnesses? They will be killed- by any means. No witness- no crime.

    Why Leila de Lima and the NBI Director would interview the PAOCC officials? Why not an independent, very credible group would do the investigation or the interview?

    Do you know that so many military and police officials and Malacanang officials including Ochoa are receiving money from notorious jueteng lords like Bong Pineda?

    Sino ba si Siman? Kalaban ba ni Bong Pineda sa jueteng? Do you that so many jueteng enemies of Bong Pineda were murdered by his military hitmen? (His #1 jueteng enemy by the name of “Ngongo” from Pampanga {He owns Casino Kings Royal and a very big hospital in Pampanga.} was almost killed by military hitmen of Bong Pineda.)

    • http://twitter.com/d3marketers SAMMY

      Abangan ang pagretract ng mga witnesses na ito soon. Pag naiinip yan sa pag usad ng kaso at di rin magugustuhan ang WPP, very vulnerable yan sa gapang ng mga galamay ng mga involved sa kaso. Mababalitaan nalang yan natin later nasa Canada na pala ang buong pamilya – immigrant na

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RRFGBCEJ6OURIE3PW3I5YCH3FQ Hideki

    Kung ako sa witness di nako lalabas..mismo NBI agent ang totodas sa kanya dahil may tao sa nbi ang mga jueteng lords..corrupt din ang NBI

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6GMEVMFGMPISWTCKSZLMIA4KQ Nelia

    walang puso at kaluluwa ang gumawa nito. 

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/iV0XkkNontlsHWTkG2jcuz.PB64A#6b054 F alonso

    PNPA,to serve and protect Lord of Organized Crime and illegal Gambling.Yet you get Full Military honor if you’ll die escorting a criminal Lord.

    • boypalaban

       PNPA, to serve and protect the jueteng interests of a relative….and eliminate those who dare enter her turf….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MEI2VZOCPGKA62EEHMX3T5MQHI Roxanne

    napapa-isip ako, ligtas pa ba tayo ngayon sa taong dapat ay pinoprotektahan tayo?  

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CRO6XSZNFZ6P4K7H5DIER5VXYY Juliet

    makonsensya naman kayo sa ginawa niyo.  may mga pamilya ang mga inosenteng tao na pinaslang nyo ng walang habas. pinatay nyo na sinisiraan nyo pa,  para lang maging legal ang ilegal na gawiin nyo.  todo-todo ang kasamaan nyo.

  • PCD_2012

    In the early reports Siman sought the assistance of Consumino because of fears against the NPA who frequents the area.  With this new revelation there’s a probability that the victims might thought that they were dealing with NPA thus they hesitated to disembark?  Never did they know that they were up to a combined Police and Army operatives whom some of them are their colleagues in uniform.  

    If you will notice, the checkpoint was planned by the Police but according to the witnesses it was the Soldiers who approached the vehicles as if they were the lead team of the operation (armed only with short and instantaneous briefings)?  Why?  Because the group of Marantan (aka Ma-ratrat) was only wearing civilian clothes as if they were going to a picnic!  The eyewitness testimonies clearly exposed how our police operatives dangerously conduct checkpoints!  As if they were only sent into a jungle to hunt for a wild boar!

    The testimonies highlighted the following:

    1.) How dangerous the country’s checkpoints are?
    2.) The checkpoint’s “Rules of Engagement” were not met thus underlining the loopholes in the Police operation.
    3.) Cover-up after a botched operation.
    4.) Lacking of independent third party to check and monitor the police operations if it meets the rules set forth by the law.
    5.) The state of mind of our operatives who conduct critical operations like checkpoints.
    6.) Checkpoints can be used by Crook officials for their own gains.
    7.) No one is safe during checkpoints even high ranking police officials!

    I just wonder with all the attention pouring in this issue why all the suspects are still in large?  With the solid revelations of the witnesses they must arrest all those involved immediately to prevent them from escaping!  I’m speculate that when the NBI is finished with their own investigation many of the suspects might already gone into hiding!

    The government must be very quick to do the arrest to show to the people that no one is above the law!  If Crooks can kill people instantaneously then our justice system must also be tough on them!  The PNP must apprehend those suspects at all costs and without hesitation immediately until they can still account for all of them!  

    This is the problem in our society, if the suspects are well known criminals the authority will automatically get those people apprehended at once without a second thought while crooks in uniform get ample time to escape!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/6DTNBPJJUJCPAJNKUH6PBC7UBE stoneridge

       dapat ikulong sila doon sa Muntinglupa kasama ng mga Sigue-sigue sputnik at Bahala na Gang para maging lesson sa mga abusive police officers.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/GTVNMZR22PGMS55WQPIJTYB4IY Jaime

      My friends and I thought of retiring in the Philippines not anymore. 

  • AllinLawisFair

    If there was a civilian truck just six meters away with persons on board who could naturally be potential eyewitnesses at the crime scene why did those policemen and soldiers manning the second checkpoint still shoot  the passengers of those SUVs? 

    That fact showed that it was a sloppy operation. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/6DTNBPJJUJCPAJNKUH6PBC7UBE stoneridge

       nataranta kasi at hindi plantsado operasyon. Thanks God at may wtness na lumutang.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TEYV7SFDD6AWNYYLDCO7WQLYPE JHUNN MOON-ZONE

    ang hirap kasi sa atin, kahit na naka uniporme ay hindi mo malaman kung totoo o hinde.

  • tarikan

    Kapalpakan ni Ochoa is showing. Who was Ochoa before he became the Exec. Secretary ni PNoy? I heard galing sya sa Quezon City Hall as administrator (?). No proven track record as a high ranking government official. Outside of maybe his friends, neighbors & relatives he was a virtual unknown before going to Malacanan(g), a neophyte in many ways, a greenhorn in national stage, kaya shooting in the dark ang nangyayari. Charges of Student Council sometimes is justified. 

  • tarikan

    It was not a shootout! Does this mean heads will roll….again? Last time I heard this pronouncement was in Luneta tour bus hostage. Ulo ni Mayor Lim, V.M. Esko Moreno, sila general, even si Dep. Ombusdman, nandyan pa nakadikit sa balikat nila. Ulo laang ni Roland Mendoza ang nag-roll ah.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YAB42FXZYNCU3ODZNRCDRDTGAY MORE HUMAN

    papatay at papatay ang mga pulis at Militar kapag sinabi na ng opisyal “FIRE” “Kill them ALL”… The fact that soldiers are raised to follow orders within a chain of command

  • James McTangay

    Tsimosa itong si De Lima…. Why quote the witnesses account when the NBI investigations is still on-going? She even went to the point of describing the positions of the witnesses. The persons who manned the checkpoint will remember the trucks plate number and will eventually trace the witnesses kahit takpan mo pa ang mga mukha. Where is the witness protection scheme Ms De Lima?

  • wakats

    The “vital” witnesses were seated in a 10-wheeler truck just 6 meters away in front of the 1st vehicle, as if in a ring-side, and even saw the “spent casing fly out of the window” of the driver who apparently survived the first volley of fire and able to fire back once, which precipitated the 2nd order to “fire” at the occupants.

    This article did not mention when the occupants of the 2nd vehicle was fired upon but possibly, Lontok and a companion were unhurt when they alighted with raised hands in a gesture of surrender but nevertheless were mercilessly mowed down by a soldier and a policeman wearing an olive drab jacket over an orange striped shirt, who also gave the orders to “fire.”

    Sources at St. Lukes Hospitat in Taguig said marantan was wearing “orange striped shirt and blue denim pants” when he was brought in.

    The witnesses of Sec. de lima must have possessed exceptional memory, like James Bond, to remember all the minute details of the incident.

    The people need the dreadful truth and the official NBI report may possibly be complete, precise, and able to stand up to the intense scrutiny during the trial, if the vital witnesses would still be around and would not change their minds.  

  • RomyLitz

    Marantan is guilty beyond reasonable doubt. The murderous act is mercilessly carried out . DEATH PENALTY must be restored..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/6DTNBPJJUJCPAJNKUH6PBC7UBE stoneridge

       if death penalty cant be restored, put him to jail, after serving sentences, must run for his life dead or alive.

  • RomyLitz

    From now on, it must be mandated by the AFP or PNP that checkpoints should be videod by the military group when dispatching a suspected truck or a mysterious car.Or all checking activities must be covered by a CCTV system. This will be the “balck box” of any shoot out !!!

  • Twister12

    Wow not to sound pessimistic here but these witnesses are picturing the event like they’re watching a movie. They even distinguished that a fire had been shot from inside the vehicle. How they can differentiate that from the bursts of gunfire only God knows. I don’t know but isn’t it the 1st reaction of anybody when a fired has been shot is to take cover? Even soldiers do, but these witnesses in their accounts is elaborating the whole scenario like they were watching an FPJ film.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYAZBOJYIUCRLWTYJBORBVTTOI boyfarmer

       they were on a truck watching a check point not expecting there would be shooting and killing of people, siguro driver at helper ang mga ito, so kitang kita from their vantage point

      • Twister12

        Just curious kasi kahit putok sa loob ng sasakyan alam nila na isa lang. Ibig sabihin naunang nagpaputok sa loob ng sasakyan otherwise kung nauna ang nasa labas sa dami ng putok paano nila malalaman ang nag iisang nang galing sa loob.

      • Mel

        Nauna sa labas nagpaputok after 20 seconds na putukan tigil, gumanti ng isa yung nasa loob ng montero, putok ulit for 8 seconds yung nasa labas, ubos!

      • Twister12

        Still sound dubious to me. According to the report they are 6 meter behind the SUV meaning they are directly in the line of fire & yet they have not cowered for cover & instead watch the entire carnage. What are they superman na hindi tinatablan ng bala?

    • http://twitter.com/d3marketers SAMMY

      I agree and mukha bang kapani-paniwala na pati ang paglipad diumano ng spent shell ay nakita pa nila? BIONIC eyes . WOW! Is there something fishy goin on here?

  • Your_King

    How corrupt is the Philippines? What happened to all of Aquino’s surveys saying that corruption in the Philippines has improved? This is a blatant example of how crooked those in power still are. Those in power take advantage of their position and in essence abuse their power and do what they want whenever they want. We see it with Aquino all the time where he uses his power to get his personal agendas dome and we also see it with the police officials involved in this ambush.

  • milespacker

    How can Marantan even think that his actions even have a semblance of righteousness? It wasn’t a checkpoint, it was hell – manned by the devil himself.

  • kismaytami

    A grim massacre brought to you by police and military personnel.

  • http://twitter.com/d3marketers SAMMY

    “The witnesses said they even saw the [spent case fly] out the window from the driver’s side of the first vehicle. “Then it was followed by another order to fire from the same person in civilian clothes at the checkpoint,” she said.

    Ibig sabihin yong driver ng SUV ang unang nagpaputok? Ayon sa mga naunang report walang armas ang 2 driver ng SUV. 

  • disqusted0fu

    Looks like there are some lies going on between Ochoa and Melad. Who are we going to believe?

    One thing for sure, if Ochoa indeed approved the operation, watch him just simply walk away from it and dust his shoulders off as if nothing happened. There might be initial investigations but that would be the end of it. People will just soon forget about it. That’s how it works if you are a kkk.

  • katabay1106

    I hope Sec. De Lima stand her ground on her accussation that there was no shootout because one very powerful KKK is very much involved. I still remember her in the Luneta Hostage Crisis  forced to toe the line of Malacanan when her report implicated some very powerful KKK.

  • Mel

    Nag reenact lang naging emotional na agad si De Lima sa mga pahayag nya.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MXTWUTBNMMYZARRN7HUWZOWYUA spam1978

    Still, nobody has the right to kill…every person has the right to live either on the bad side or good side of this world. Or else, please demolish and close down all penitentiaries and jails as if it was no good to use. Kung ikaw ang namatayan mararamdaman mo ang sakit…Kahit sino ka man or gaano ka man kayaman. db sir Paquito Diaz, este Sir Paquito Ochoa sir

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6GMEVMFGMPISWTCKSZLMIA4KQ Nelia

    nagtatanong lang, bakit nung humihingi ng kopya ng autopsy report ang isang kapamilya ng namatay ay hindi nagbigay ang SOCO? kadudaduda.  

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

    “De Lima said that according to the witnesses, a single shot was fired from inside the first vehicle. ”

    (Wala akong kinakampihan.) pero bakit tatlo ang tama ni Marantan sa magkabilang paa at sa balikat kung isang putok lang ang nanggaling sa convoy ni Siman… Sa panig ng militar o sundalo sabi nila ay totoong may shootout. Sa panig ni De Lima walang naganp na shootout… Parang may hokus-pokus…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

    Bakit yung dalawang witness ay parang matipuno pareho ang katawan pwedeng silang maging pulis?

  • bulkyboy

    Sa mga nadamay sa insidente..panalangin na alng ang pwede ko i-offer sa inyo..pero tanong ko lang sa mga nag comment dito…bakit sila kasama dun sa convoy ni Siman? Hindi ba muna nila inalam kung sino-sino ang mga taong ito? kasi parang sa pagbili lang ng second hand na sasakyan yan eh..kailngan mo i-verify kung legal ba ang papers or carnap ang sasakyan…

    • tohellwithhypocrites

      tanong ko lang din boknoyboy… kung alam mo na ang kaharap mo magnanakaw na dumadaan lang, raratratin mo din ba siya pati mga kasama niya?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5TENDBNOVQRJEKFPV76D2N4XUM Socorro

    Eh they fired daw in the air, and why not let Melad expound on his comment? What he said might be a big help, so where is he now? Was he told to keep quiet or to tell a big lie? Everybody involved should be made to answer, BUT I doubt even with the NBI as “ordered kuno by Pinoy ” will tell the truth, they will make some answerable but will protect the key people. Of course, they are following orders di ba?  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WN5TKEXEJ2VHQVNGP2CJEDLJH4 Jess

    sec. de lima. imbestigahan nyo po ang background ng mga ilalabas na testigo ng mga pulis sa atimonan massacre, tiyak po na mga fake ang pangalan at address nila kasi mga assets po nila ng mga witnesses na ilalabas. Ganyan po ang style nila.

  • bogli_anakdami

    dapat eh sabunutan ni enrile si mirriam… para may bagong kabanata…

    nakakasawa na ang atimonan istorya de gung gong eh… di ba?

  • zeroko

    He he he! Kumalat na po ang virus ni PALPARAN the butcher! Puro murders!

  • Albert Einstien

    dapat ILABASat KASUHAN ng multiple murder  ng NBI kung sino sino ang mga MASTERMIND sa CARNAGE na ito……yung mga sundalo mukhang nagamit lang para mag mukhang legit at composite team ang security forces……at DAPAT  ilabas yun report sa alleged 100 million , gold at diamonds…..at kung sino sino ang mga MYEMBRO ng mga SINDIKATO sa both sides at mga protektor nila para MAA-BISUHAN ang PUBLIKO….ala KURATONG ito pera pera ang dahilan..buhay ang kabayaran…

  • zeroko

    Kandidaro ako dito sa Q.C. Pag nanalo ako, kakalampagin ko ang buong Q.C. Local Government. Daming anomalya rito. Pati ang food stool sa loob ng City Hall, kinukubra ng 
    P 2,800, kaya lang ang risibo, P 1,400 lang! He he he. Daming food stole yan! Doon din sa entrance galing sa East Avenue. May talipapa roon at Karinderia. Ang singil ay 800 pesos…… Wala ring risibo! He he he. Ang laking scandalo rito sa Q.C. Ang “Intelligence funds” for year 2010 was 80 million pesos. He he he. Pa “intelligence pa intelligence pa si boss bistek.” Ang problema ay “Confidential po ang mga resibo nito.” Hindi pwedeng ma audit. O, he he he. Laking pera ng tax payers! Kung alam lang ng nagbabayad na cigarette vendor sa Kalye kung paano nilulustay ang pondo ng Q.C. Local Government, baka mag ka riot. 

    Sa 2004 Budget sa Emergency, Discretionary, at Exemplary Expenses na million din ang halaga. Ang risibo noong 2004, ginamit din sa 2005, at 2006. Ba, bobo ang Q.C. Local Government! Hindi ba nila alam na mabibisto ang corrupt nilang gawain dahil ang petsa at receipt number ay iisa? He he he. That is just the tip of an ice burg. Tandaan po ninyo, millions of pesos ang transaction ng napakayamng siyudad katulad ng Q.C. He heheeh. 

    Simula ke Belmonte Jr. hangang mga Barangay SK, maraming anomalya. Sa SK sa Project 2, lumabas sa TV Patrol news na ang pangkaraniwang athletic goods ay 7  thousand pesos lang sa Divisoria, sa SM,9 thousand pesos, Ang binayad ng Barangay P97,000! Ilang pursyento iyan? 97 divide 7 is 1,387%! He he he. Noong tinanung ang Barangay Council sa Project 2 kung bakit nagkaganoon. Ang sabi ni Kapitan, “Eh standard operating precedure naman ang ginawa namin. Lahat ng Barangay ganoon. Ang bidding ay inside job.” Baka ang ibig sabihin, ang resibo ay pangkaraniwang nabibili sa “National Book Store.”

    Galing diba? This is why the Freedom of INformation is so essential if we want transparency and accountability in our government. Sad to say, PNoy has voice his opinion loud. It is not a priority. In short, the whole year was wasted, thanks to our laggard Legislative Branch” because, again, nothing will happen to the Freedom of Information bill. He he e. 

    No wonder our country is branded as the 34th most corrupt nation in the whole world. Naunahan na po tayo ng mga karatig na bansa natin. Ang Indonesia, may darating na 30 top of the line Raptor 22, the fifth generation stealth fighter jet airplane from a license firm from Korea. Tayo, ang bibilin natin ay the cheapest trainer airplane, so obsolete, it may become another “widow maker” puro crash.. Buti pa bili na lang tayo ng drone, remote pilotless airplane pare pag pinabagsak ng ating kaaway, walang Pilipinong piloto ang mamamatay. He he he.

  • Gerardo Barrica

    The real truth here is that the POLICE can do any thing they want kung walang aagal. With the media around things can change. But they (police) can be so cunning. Meron din silang mga cuddler na mga ex military or wives of ex military who has ganined influence while they were in their position.
    I don’t think PNoy can clean the system in our lifetime. Kilangan talaga tayong revolusyon para kung sinu ang maiwan can start a better future.

  • Gerardo Barrica

    Pag maka tangap ng pera itong si De LIma tatahimik din yan. Just watch?

  • Paliwaweng

    “She said the witnesses could not describe the policeman in civvies who gave the order to fire.
    The policeman was described as wearing an olive drab jacket over an orange striped shirt.
    The leader of the police team at the checkpoint was Supt. Hansel Marantan, deputy chief of intelligence of the Calabarzon (Cavite, Laguna, Batangas, Rizal, Quezon) police, who was reportedly hit in the hands and foot during the supposed shootout.
    Sources at a local hospital where Marantan was first taken for treatment said he was wearing “orange striped shirt and blue denim pants” when he was brought in”.

    We can tell during cross examination if the witness is credible or Marantan is lying.
    Telling a true story is easy, one needs not to think or pause on what to say, the answers are spontaneous and with ease.
    Unlike one who is concoting lies where one can notice the body and eyes movement side to side
    and the pause after each question, thinking of answers.

  • ConstructiveMediaCritics

     PROMOTIONS OF JUSTICE DEVELOPMENTS FOR THE PHILIPPINE SOCIETY……

    “PROTECTION AND PROMOTIONS OF HUMAN RIGHTS”….

  • AlexanderAmproz

    Philippines is smelling the failed Theocratic Spanish Empire, Mexico, Columbia, Sicily(mafia birthplace was Spanish and is Theocratic too) etc. 
    Among the World most violent and corrupt, they are all Catholic  fanatics places, a 450 years Clergy rule mirrors.

    An excellent tourists destination for ignorants and streets toughies.

    GMA and Norberto Gonzalez where swimming like fish leaders in the blood and corruptions,

    P-Noy and Leila de Lima are a big hope for Philippines forward, recovering Honesty and Justice

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZMYIL5FXLVIHRZXBQGONZS6U4 Jhune

    Kung ako ay binaril mo tiyakin mo lang na patay ako iyan ang doktrina ng mga matatapang kung hindi babalikan kita, ganyan lang ang nangyari, unang sasakyan nag paputok, maging warning shot iyan wala akung pakialam ang pulis at sundalo sa check point na lahing mababangis siguradong tatamaan sila. Sa kalsada nga lang nagkatinginan lang barilan na iyon pa kayang paputokan mo sila.

    • beerhunters

      exactly. In the ROTC students are indoctrinated never to point a gun at somebody, even with that WW I rifle without a firing pin!

  • beerhunters

    “Kill them all. Let God just sort them out later.”

  • Karabukov

    Murdered in cold blood is what you really mean.

  • zeroko

    Buti, biniral agad siya. He met an instant death. Dito sa Metro Manila, particularly Q.C., pinapakuan muna ang ulo 5 inches nail habang naka balot na masking tape ang mukha, at unti unti nilang pinapahirapan hanggang mamatay. Buti pa ang baka sa America, they have rights how they are properly killed. Brutal ang pagpatay sa mga kapatid nating mahihirap. Yet, there are thousands of victims that were killed by vigilantes ala military and PNP in civilian attire. He he he. 

     It’s not that I’m happy for his death, but if I were the one, I would choose that I be shot on my mouth upward para wala nang paghihirap pa.



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