‘Marantan testimony no longer needed’—De Lima

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ATIMONAN 13 Two witnesses (with caps and covered faces) narrate to Justice Secretary Leila de Lima and NBI Director Nonnatus Rojas how a team of policemen and soldiers shot dead all 13 people in two SUVS in Atimonan, Quezon, on Jan. 6. RAFFY LERMA

ATIMONAN, Quezon—Should Supt. Hansel Marantan finally decide to speak up on his role in the controversial police operation that left 13 people dead here on Jan. 6, his testimony would no longer matter, Justice Secretary Leila de Lima said Thursday.

And if the police officer would insist on his story that an exchange of gunfire erupted between lawmen and criminals, De Lima said, “we don’t need it anymore because we already have our own findings from the account of our witnesses.”

“We were trying to get a statement from him (Marantan), but whether or not he will say anything material or significant, it will no longer have bearing for us, especially if they will stick to their lying, to their original statement that it was a shootout,” De Lima said.

De Lima spoke to journalists Thursday as National Bureau of Investigation probers conducted a reenactment of the shooting incident along Maharlika Highway in Barangay Lumutan here. President Aquino had earlier directed the NBI, which is under the Department of Justice (DOJ), to investigate the shooting.

Following warnings that he could face charges for obstruction of justice, Marantan is now ready to talk to NBI investigators, Philippine National Police spokesperson Generoso Cerbo Jr. said in a news briefing at Camp Crame in Quezon City Thursday.

The police officer also turned over to the agency the slug taken from his body and other pieces of evidence, Cerbo said.

Marantan, who was relieved from his post as deputy intelligence head of the Calabarzon regional police, led the ground operation against Victor “Vic” Siman, an alleged head of an illegal gambling and gun-for-hire syndicate, following an informant’s tip that the group would be passing through the highway in Atimonan.

Siman, three police officers and three military men were among those killed by Marantan’s group, which was backed up by members of the Army’s Special Forces. Marantan insisted that a shootout happened, resulting in 13 deaths, and that he himself was wounded in the limbs.

“From what we have gathered, (Marantan) is now cooperating with the NBI.” he said. Pressed to elaborate, he said: “Let’s just leave it at that. He’s already cooperating. The issue of whether he failed to cooperate or not is now water under the bridge.”

“We don’t want to give out a statement that may hamper or run in conflict with what the NBI will have to say,” Cerbo said.

De Lima said she expected the NBI to complete its investigation early next week.

What went wrong

“They are working overtime. Their scope of investigation is much broader. They are now digging into the actual operation. What was that all about? Its real objective? Who are the victims? Where did they come from and where they were going? Who gave the tip?” she said.

She added: “We really have to establish the motive. What was really the operation? Was it initially envisioned to be a legitimate operation and yet somewhere along the way, for some reason, personal or otherwise, to a particular personality involved in the operation, it went wrong. The whole thing went wrong.”

Sources in the underground gambling world had earlier said that Marantan had a sister named Cenen “Tita” Dinglasan, who was allegedly an operator of Siman’s rival gambling syndicate in Southern Tagalog. This fueled reports that the Atimonan encounter was a result of a gambling turf war.

In an Philippine Daily Inquirer interview on Tuesday, Marantan denied his and his family’s involvement in illegal gambling.

He said Dinglasan was not his sister but an operator of “clubs” in Batangas province and Manila that fed him information. “I know her (Dinglasan) from way back. At times, I get information (from her) and validate them,” he said.

“But I can look you straight in the eye that I am not on the take (from gambling operations). I am not even from (Southern Tagalog),” Marantan said. He said he was from Tuguegarao City in Cagayan.

 

Marantan profile

De Lima said the NBI was digging deeper into the police officer’s profile. “We’re quite intrigued about the series of coincidences (controversial shooting incidents in which he was involved),” she said.

In November 2005, Marantan was criminally charged in connection with a purported encounter between operatives of the Highway Patrol Group and the so-called Valle Verde car theft syndicate. Four scions of wealthy families were killed.

In December 2008, he was involved in another police operation against a robbery group in Parañaque City that left 16 people dead, including a migrant worker and his 7-year-old daughter who were caught in the crossfire.

In February 2010, Marantan, then head of the 415th Provincial Police Mobile Group, was caught anew in a controversy involving the deaths of eight suspected kidnappers at a checkpoint in front of his headquarters in Candelaria town in Quezon.

De Lima noted that with this string of purported encounters, the PNP should not have promoted Marantan.

“There should be a red flag to warn the authorities on granting promotion to such kinds of personalities. This kind of incident could have been avoided,” she said.

She lamented the absence of a law that would categorically deny the promotion of a police official without any clearance from the Commission on Human Rights, an agency which she once chaired.

PNP probe to continue

While the NBI had taken over the investigation, Cerbo said the PNP would still continue its own inquiry to determine any possible administrative sanction against Marantan and other policemen involved in the operation.

Asked if Marantan may refuse to cooperate with the PNP investigation, the spokesperson said: “He has to cooperate. Although we gave him leeway initially because he sustained injuries, he has to face the music.”

Cerbo stressed anew that the police officer let members of the PNP fact-finding team to see him in his hospital room but declined to answer questions.

“Let’s just wait for what he has to say, how he would weigh in all these. He may have his own reasons. Maybe he’s considering himself an accused and he is invoking his right to a counsel or to remain silent,” Cerbo said. With reports from Marlon Ramos in Manila and Maricar Cinco, Inquirer Southern Luzon

Originally posted at 09:27 pm | Thursday, January 17, 2013

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  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    “Marantan’s shootout story is now useless.” — de lima

    “I categorically rule-out rub-out in the Quezon operation.” — Panfilo Lacson in last Sunday’s interview with GMA7’s Nimfa Ravello.

    Paano na yan, the preponderance of evidences is overwhelmingly against Lacson. Kakainin ba ni Lacson ang sinabi niya?

    • tonto_ka

      Lacson iS also a LIAR…

    • LeoSanMig

      birds of the same feather flock together? is it possible that marantan learned from the master?  or is there a lacson101 in the pnpa curriculum?

      • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

        Pwede, ML 101.

    • mon key

      lacson is a puppet! a talking head. as honorable as a cell phone snatcher!

      • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

        it does appear that Lacson used to be the one doing the dirty work. but he has moved up in the food chain since his Kuratong Baleleng days.

        Rose Bud, any inputs?

    • jolly_baby

       kala ko pa naman nagbabago na lacson kahit sya yung killer noon. pasimple lang pala sya now…   kung ako sa kanya expose nya lahat tulad ng gingwa nya.. ito na ooportunity nya.

    • banditpogi

      Kakainin nin Lacson ang sinabi niya???  Makapal din mukha ni Lacson, wala sa kanya yon kahit kainin niya sinabi niya.  Kung natatandaan ninyo sinabi niya sa interview kay Corina Sanchez noong PAOCTF chief pa siya nang tanungin kung may balak siyang maging politico. Sagot niya, “I hate politics”, daw.

      Ngayon nasaan siya???  Di ba numero unong controversial na politico siya na walang respeto din sa opisina niya noong nagtago siya.

  • mon key

    The DOJ should post a personnel at the hospital where MaRATRAnTan is confined. He might try to escape.

    • justomontevedio

      OR somebody (the brain behind) might try to silence him forever.

  • tonto_ka

    Marantan has yet to submit himself to the investigation done by the Philippine National Police fact-finding team.
    Chief Supt. Generoso Cerbo Jr., PNP spokesperson, belied Marantan’s claim that he had submitted himself to the investigation done by the fact-finding team that PNP Director General Alan Purisima had created.
    It was very CLEAR that MARANTAN was a LIAR!!!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/DU5GH5NS3O7DOI54MNUPTTHVY4 B88C

      In his first interviews, paiyak-iyak pa siya ala Coco Martin.

  • rolandtr

    We are maturing as a democacy! This whole investigation is showing us that. Future administrations will have a hard time returning to the old ways of covering up for any gross misdeeds of elements of the PNP! Transparency is the gift this whole mess is giving us Filipinos! Roxas stock will rise in the next survey. PNoy’s popularity also. Had they not done it this way pulotin si PNoy at si Mar sa kangkongan! Good work and thank you!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/276L22SZM5ZUQGV24IL4ZEF6UA Edward

      dre, tlgang d kau well updated sa balita o sadyang nagkaroon lng ng lapse of memory…

      biro nyo nmn una palang nagsalita na sina abnoy at roxas patungkol sa pumutok na atimonan quezon at ang sabi ng 2 legit at may basbas ang operation tpos mga gun for hire, etc…kinalaunan nagbago na ang tono ng pananalita kc pinaalam na sa knilang PR at media relations pipol na nagdududa ang nakakaraming tao sa nangyaring atimonan shoutout …have u seen any hbo movies or simply local and korean teleserye para malaman nyo at maunawaan nyo ang trabaho ng mga PR pipol pra sa manok nila sa showbiz, politics, etc…

    • VeryDisgusted2

      The case is not over yet, so it is premature to give credit to the two. Who knows one of them will turn-out to be the one obstructing justice.

  • LeoSanMig

    What about his illegal activities (kidnap for ransom, robberies  etc that also left a trail of dead bodies) in 2002 while he was still a chief inspector in camsur? And I agree with Sec de Lima that there should be a law to get a clearance from CHR before a police/army official gets promoted to the next rank.

  • popeyee

    De Lima already has its conclusion against Marantan even the investigation is still on-going. She should wait for the NBI to come out with their report..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/276L22SZM5ZUQGV24IL4ZEF6UA Edward

      dre, si De lima ang head/sec ng doj na kung saan ang nbi ay isang sangay na nakapaloob ng kagawarang nabanggit…

      • popeyee

        I agree. Pero ano pa ang saysay ng NBI investigation kung ngayon pa lang ay may conclusion na ang kanilang hepe? 

      • speaksoftlylove

         Basahin mo ulit, di mo naintindihan. May conclusion na ang NBI in particular and DOJ in general. Motibo na lang ang di pa kumpleto kaya background checking na lang ang kulang. Syempre nakatuon kay Marantan ang issue kaya siya lang muna ang pinaguusapan pero alam na ng DOJ kung sinosino ang mga matataas na backer o utak ng massacre. Di pwedeng sasabihin kaagad ni De Lima at baka sasalain na naman ang report gaya ng ngangyari sa Luneta hostage killings. Formal report na lang ang kulang.

  • Atawid

    Nakapagtaka lang ang statement ni Ping, inabswelto niya agad si Marantan without hearing the facts

    • speaksoftlylove

       Nagtataka ka pa eh isa yan sa utak. Kaya nga di na kailangan ang pork barrel niya, doon ka magtaka.

  • icemankb891

    These kind of incidents can be avoided if somebody gets jailed and not just get a slap on the wrist or worst a promotion Zzzzzzzzzzzz

  • bogli_anakdami

    hay naku, de lima naman naman namannnn…

    lahat ng mga bataan ni prez akin’o eh legit, di ba?… kaming mga flip gung gongs eh tiwalang-tiwala jan sa kwento ni bossing marantan..

    eh de lima, sige ka… babawasan kita ng isa… para “apat” ka na lang, di lima…

    bwi hi hi hi hi pwi!… hay naku tayong mga flips eh mga gung gongs na, eh tinatanga pa ninyo ng husto…

  • barako22

    gusto ko lumabas yun mga supporter ni marantan para makilala ang mga protector ng jueting dito tyak sila kukuha ng funds sa darating na election

  • icemankb891

    you know what they say…birds with the same feathers…

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/iV0XkkNontlsHWTkG2jcuz.PB64A#6b054 F alonso

    Ate Leila de,ang imbistigahan mo:bakit may escort na police Col. yung Lord of organized crime.
    Bakit hindi matigil ang Jueteng na illegal at may guwardiya pang opisyal na Pulis?Ni minsan hindi ko pa narinig sa TV or newsprint na kinondena mo ang Jueteng,pati si Sec Roxas.Hindi mo alam na ang mga Jueteng Lord ang mga sumusuporta ng mga ibang Politico pag election?
    Rubout or not,those bloody criminals deserve to be rubbed out from the Society.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WT5ZX5O7ZBC6Z3LXFA4UIQZC3I emajega

      maganda sana yang suhestion mo eh, kaso ang mga pumatay sa mga Jueteng operator na si vic siman at mga protektor nya ay may bahid din ng jueteng ang personalidad at kriminalidad. Kaya mamili ka idiin ang mga jueteng lords at mga protektor na alam natin na pinatay na o itong grupo ni marantan na kahit saang anggulo mo basahin ay hindi matinong pulis sampu ng mga kasama nya na may bahid din na protektor ng jueteng.

      • speaksoftlylove

         Pagpasensyahan mo na yang kausap mo. Bookie collector yan ni Tita Marantan Dinglasan.

      • LeoSanMig

        E di maswerte pala itong si F alonso? Libre na ospital. At St Luke’s pa!

      • JV Velarde

        nadale mo bro’! 

      • noyab

        wala naman masama sa jueteng….dahil di naman pera ng bayan ang kanilang kinukuha…tandaan mo ugok, kung walang mananaya walang jueteng

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WT5ZX5O7ZBC6Z3LXFA4UIQZC3I emajega

        Oo nga ano. tama ka di naman kinukuha sa kaban ng yaman ang pagtaya sa Jueteng. Yung nakubrang pera naman ay ginagamit para manalo ang isang tiwaling pulitiko. Tamang tama ka noyab, ang galing nag utak mo, utak UGOK!!!

    • Paliwaweng

      ibang kaso yun F, walang kaugnayan dito sa massacre kung bakit nag escort ung police sa Lord ng organized crime na binanggit mo.
      Isusunod ding iimbestigahan yan syempre, pati ang jueteng.
      Lalaktawan mo ang shootout, rubout, massacre nyan kung doon ka agad babaling.

    • stilettoL2

      Kung ganyan ang katwiran ng lahat ng tao segurado chaos ang mangyayari sa mundo. Wala ng batas na sinusunod, patay dito patay doon ang mangyayari. Eh di magkanya kanyang batas na lang tayo kung anong gusto mong batas gawin mo, wala ng gobyerno gobyerno. OK ba boss

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/RDDM5UQ45HLPPKM66KYEBCMTCE dave

      i would say i agree but…how about the innocents? well we can no longer determine whose criminal and whose not because all of them are now dead. I still hate that word, “collateral damage”. While I do agree that those criminals should pay for their crime.

      • noyab

        may evidence ka ba to prove na mga criminals nga yun namatay…show it to us…

    • noyab

      dapat ma rubout ka na rin

    • catalansbarce

      Huwag mong kalimotan nagkasagutan si Gob Pineda at si Sec Roxas
      dahil sa jueteng at tinataningan ng Sec ang Chief of Police ng sampung araw ipatigil
      ang jueteng.., hanggang ngayon walang nangyari. Ang jueteng ay well organized
      syndicate parang Cosa Nostra…, ang Mafia sa Sicella, Italy. Kahit sino pang
      presidente.., walang magawa…pinoproteksyonan yan ng mga military at mga
      pulitiko na di kaya sa Aquino Administration lusobin. Si DeLima, ang hindi ko
      narinig kinondena niya ang jueteng.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MXTWUTBNMMYZARRN7HUWZOWYUA spam1978

    this means…nobody has the right to kill anybody!!! if you don’t understand the logic…you should shut up

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AEWOLSMXA3ZBU73HGSTFMFTPKQ noel

    kaya sobrang dumadami mga criminal sa atin kse lahat na lng ng mga namamatay sa kanila sinasabing rub out

  • Bansot

    I think Justice de Lima should have refrained from making pre mature statetments before the conclusion of the full investigation. Considering her position, anything that she said will surely influence and/or sway the outcome of the investigation. As for the officers who were involved in this case, don’t forget the saying ‘DARN’T IF YOU DO, DARN’NT  IF YOU DON’T”……..you are not in the winning side no matter what you do. In most cases the ordinary law enforcers will become the ‘FALL GUYS”, when things went wrong, while the TOP Brasses wash their hands, but if things went through smoothly, the TOP HEADS, got the pats in their backs including the rewards, but the ordinary people are forgotten in oblivion.!!

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/XY4AW6ZJBAPIJ33L7KX6M3IOQI c

      ‘DARN’T IF YOU DO, DARN’NT  IF YOU DON’T”.. Haaa?? mali yata yan ah! hihihih

    • jolly_baby

      o malay mo yung reporter mali lang wording…

    • noyab

      hindi yun premature, lawyer yan baka ikaw ang premature ng ipinanganak kaya ganayan ka magisip….ugok

      • Bansot

        Wow, is that the best comment you can dig up from your nutshell??.. the use of foul language?? It doesn’t make your argument convincing but merely reflects your level of intelligence and type of personality.. Read the issue carefully, and objectively. The NBI spokesman Cebo said (to qoute) ” we don’t want to give out statement that will hamper or ruin in conflict with what the NBI has to say” Justice de Lima even said that the NBI expects to complete the investigation early next week. Even lawyers are not infallible, as demonstrated by Justice de Lima. If the investigation, and the suspects in the shooting are not even charged yet, then any statement regarding the culpability of the poeple involved is pre matured. Try to be smart instead of being rude, and you”ll become a better blogger

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7IGQYIPU6AFTVRJ742XT2X44M4 Jef

    Di pa tapos investigation ng NBI ito si Lilia D nagsalita na kakasuhan na si Marantan eh hindi man lang nag imbistiga sa background ng 13 alleged gun for hire..bilang sec of DOJ u are very careful with your words nakalimutan mo yata na ikaw DOJ sec or your a media practitioner dak dak ng dak…look also what is the real motive why Siman have escorted by high ranking police and military personnel outside their jurisdiction.

    • speaksoftlylove

       Sige umiyak ka pa. Iisa lang naman kayo ng mga robot mong si F Alonso at Noel di kayo nagtrio mas effective.

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/XY4AW6ZJBAPIJ33L7KX6M3IOQI c

       ever heard of “psy war”?

      • don alto

        PSY???  ….  Yung kumanta ng GANG NAM ??? ….LOL!

    • http://www.facebook.com/mikey.principe Mikey Principe

      Bakit kelangan imbestagahan yun mga namatay? Hinde ba dapat mag imbestiga kung paano sila namatay?

    • noyab

      dapat isama ka sa mga kaushan, ugok…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7GMD4LSF4UNITVPJGST3CJVMVA David

    ok lang criminal din naman napatay….me kakahantungan din ang mga pumatay….so tabla lang sa dulo.

    • magiting78

      <oo tabla gagamitin na kabaong sa kanila hehehhe….

    • ODAPAIN

      how about the innocent civilians that get caught in the crossfire ?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    At least,nagkaroon ng consolation ang mga pamilya ng mga biktima(kasama na ang mag naunang biktima)…Good job DoJ.

  • calixto909

    Cerbo, your statement that Marantan might be charge with obstruction of justice is vague to be least believable. Remove the word might so immediately file the case against him for defying your directives and that of sec. Roxas. Used the military language that is direct, brief and concise and the used of might, maybe and etc which only obfuscate the polemic issue should be used by the politicians and the lawyers.

    In addition Marantan’s refusal to cooperate with the investigation despite order from his superiors is plain insubordination, so impose the punishment at once since delaying it would only make his head bigger to be least manageable. 

    • noyab

      yes mr cerbo gamitin mo ang pinagaralam mo…we commend you for not covering up…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GTVNMZR22PGMS55WQPIJTYB4IY Jaime

    His statement before was useless in the first place.

  • $37644997

    Marantan’s shoot-out story is now useless-De lima.It is also true that He himself is useless personnel.

  • ruben_bush

    De Lima is the only cabinet secretary who we can say is the best.  She has the guts to say the truth and she will continue to fight for the truth.  She was not afraid of Duterte, she was not afraid of Lacson, nor the butcher Palparan and the Ampatuan’s.  Mabuhay ka and we hope you can continue the good work.  DE LIMA FOR PRESIDENT in 2016 !!!!   Walang ibang makakapagpatuloy ng tuwid na daan kung di si De Lima.  Kay Binay, tiyak na mabibinbin ang pagbabago at tuwid na daan.

    • jolly_baby

       ok na sana biglang for president.. wag naman premature.

    • noyab

      mas tuwid ang daan ni de lima compare to panot

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    Did DOJ Sec. De Lima speak prematurely?

    Not necessarily. Considering the backers of Marantan, it’s better for her to speak up as soon as new information comes to light. For Marantan to survive so many controversies and different administrations, malakas na malakas ang backer niya. Notice how Mar Roxas and Alan Purisima, the bosses of PNP, chose to stay at home and avoid the field visit for ocular inspection.

    Are Mar Roxas and Alan Purisima trying to avoid finding out new things in the field visit in order to contain the damage at the level of Marantan? The plausible deniability of Paquito Ochoa only means he did not financially sponsor the COPLAN. Other possibilities of Paquito Ochoa’s involvement should not be ruled out at this point.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/FXNIN7XJ52H6BOQLS7NRMO3GEA Lorelei

      puwede po ba mailagay ang pangalan sa isang coplan na walang arrest warrant ? walang kaso ? walang ebidensiya ? wala man lang criminal record ?

  • Markov Chain

    promoted kasi good job ang tingin ng mga boss…kasi ang mga boss niya sa PNP ang mga mastermind….wala ba kayong mga utak????!!!?!?!?!?!?!

    • Pedro_Gil

      Matalino ka brod! pwede ba kung dumalaw si colokoy turuan mo. hehehehe

  • boybakal

    I agree with De Lima…Marantan shootout story is useless.
    Just look at the evidence, physical evidence, the circumstances, the victims, dead victims.
    They are more compelling than what Marantan would say.
    The dead and the SUV is the best evidence….tadtad ng bala.
    Res Ipsa Loquitor.

    Marantan shootout story is unbelievable, even FPJ suffered serious injury in killing his contrabidas.
    Marantan should be handcuffed on his bed…He might escape as we don’t know his injury, only covered by plastic cement.

    • noyab

      de lima mag issue ka na ng order or travel ban for marantan and company…

  • VeryDisgusted2

    Who backed or recommended Marantan in his promotions? Who authorized Dumlao to be backed in service? If NBI can identify him or them, he or they are likely also involved as massacre masterminds.

    • noyab

      Ping Lacson siguro ang backer na mga hodlum in uniform na iyan…..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AX7A65HBPOATKIEDV77LOLRVUM Colokoy

    de lima para kang abnoy, mabuti pa sayo si Rojas professional magsalita, under investigation pa ang kaso at police and military ang sangkot dito. kung gusto kang magpabango kay pnoy be professional naman. bakit takot kang ipakilala ang sinasabi mong witnes, baka tulad yan sa witness ni atty. olalia para kay palparan case

    • noyab

      ikas ang abnoy, alam ni de lima ang kanyang ginagawa dahil lawyer siya unlike roxas na balimbing din….

    • Pedro_Gil

      ang hirap sa inyo palibhasa wala kasi kayong pagaari. mas bilib ako kay de lima may balls (tagalugin mo pls). ikaw meron ka ba o puro ka lang talk. hehehe.  hayaan nating gawin niya ang trabaho niya. sabi ko nga samahan mo sa munti si maratrat habang naghihintay siya sa court sessions niya. siguradong magkakaroon ka ng sweetheart doon/ sige tahimik ka na

  • franciskwan

    Superintendent Marantan does not have the brains nor the political audacity to execute this operation on his own. Nor does he have the logistics to carry this out. The attention of the investigators should go above and beyond the circle of Marantan. 
    The Presidential spokeswoman immediately deemed this a legitimate police procedure several hours after doubts started to fly about this “checkpoint.” Valte even reiterated this several times as days went by. Now that Marantan is implicating an involvement by the PAOCC, the PAOCC thru Mr. Paquito Ochoa is saying that the operation is not legitimate.
    Corollary to this, the killing of Fernando Morales, an associate of Siman, at his home several days later therefore opens more questions than answers. If a crime boss was just assassinated by an police operative, would you expect his subordinated to stay in his house making himself an easy target? Curiously, Morales did not find it in himself to be wary of the police knocking in the wee hours of the night. Is it because he had been confident of his relationship with such and had been privy to the operation from the very beginning?
    If the initial plan was to ambush Siman and his cohorts, why would Marantan seek approval and funding from the PAOCC–an application that was verified by the PAOCC?

    • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

      At the very least, it is clear that Marantan’s COPLAN is seeking financial sponsorship from PAOCC. There’s something about Paquito Ochoa’s plausible deniability that does not add up. Ruling out Paquito Ochoa’s involvement at this point is premature.

    • noyab

      napaka tanga mo naman, of course dahil sa funding, may kita rin sila duon…

      • franciskwan

        Salamat Mr. Noyab, sa pagmumura mo sa akin. Hindi kita kilala pero nasa ugali mo siguro ang murahin ang mga tao na hindi mo man kilala at hindi manlang maunawaan ang opinyon.

        The point of the comment, Mr. Noyab, is to tell ignorami such as you that there seems to be a story beyond what is presently given us both by the lazy media and lackadaisical authorities.

        To spell it out to cretins like you, hindi lamang kita ito, at hindi lang weteng or STL–whatever you may want to call it–ito.

        It is election time. One of the primary sources of funding during election time is the activity of illegal moneymaking sources such as gambling…All the politicians know this, and all astute members of the authority know this. Do you have any idea how many hundreds of millions of pesos it takes to have a senator elected? As I have mentioned, the man does not have the brains to do this. He is an executor of orders coming from a higher authority. Reread my comment.

        Do you really believe that people such as this will waste their time and political leverage by ambushing a known weteng lord for a million pesos which is the money allotted for an operation like this as noted in another article? E sa dami ng mga kasangkot ni Marantan e kulang pa sa pang bayad yan sa mga kabit ng mga taong yan.

        Mr. Marantan was noted to be involved or mentioned at least in a number of controversial cases through the past years. Yet he had been promoted…Yun pa lamang.., ang mga torpeng kagaya mo should realize that it is not the funding they were after.

        Of course, your other recourse is to slither into your hole like the vermin you are and regret the day you ever wrote your rather idiotic opinion.

        Good day, sir.

  • jHdz

    What goes around… comes around.  

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/M3LQ4MUAU3Z36MIQGIGSOKBCQE Rosauro

    Parang politico ito si De Lima. Makiramdam muna, at pag naramdamn niyang popular ang isang kuwento, doon siya papanig at magkukutak na. May planong maging Senador o Presidente in the future. Ramdam ko.

    • jolly_baby

       Gawan ba ng issue…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E2V7QUMFK3JR7GWHPUF7MNVIJQ Kudi

      Ramdam mo ba?

    • noyab

      tama lang ang ginagawa niya ikaw lang ang di natutuwa dahil lapdog ka rin siguro ni maratrat….

      • Pedro_Gil

        hehe tama ka Noyab! sa dami kasing makitid ang utak nawala na ang pagiisip. puro paranoid sa mga tama ang pagiisip. INUTIL ang tawag diyan!!

  • rouelcalzita

    PNP official itself determine with certainty that Mrantan is not cooperating with the investigation. Mean to say that have a foul play…RUBOUT. We reach a conclusion after such statement from PNP official that Marantan might be cited for obstruction of justice…so Marantan is guilt of wrong doing.

    • noyab

      anong might be cited….i cite nyo na puro kayo dada….

      • rouelcalzita

        Di ka rin ba puro dada?

    • Pedro_Gil

      dalhin sa muntinglupa ang kumag na maratrat. siya ang may utak lahat ng ito dahil sa kalaban sa hweteng. Tado!!

  • $16638896

    anatayin nyo nalang magpagaling ng gasgas sa kamay at paa si marantan hihihihi

    • Mamang Pulis

      sige nga tignan nga natin kung may bakli sa buto io maratrat…

      malalmg ginahasa ito sa academy kaya galit sa gatilyo….

  • Mamang Pulis

    hansel—kontakin mo na si fortun–ubusin mo na yun pondo mo nakalap sa jueteng sa mga de kampanillang abo gag0

  • ODAPAIN

    This is not the 1st time and I guess it wont be the last time when “Shoot the driver 1st & et al” will happen again thanks to law enforcers like Marantan and crooks with political connections

  • Mamang Pulis

    kapag onsehan talaga—pucha—-sige ubusan na ng lahi…

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    Yung truck driver na nakakita ng buong pangyayari ay nanganganib na ma-rub out din. Yung pahinante niyang natutulog at naalimpungatan ng ratratan ay nganganib ding ma-rub out. If this case does not get closure by the end of this year, the witnesses will slowly disappear one by one. The Kuratong Baleleng top witnesses were also placed under NBI’s witness protection program. But the conditions of the WPP were just too difficult because of lack of funding. The brave Mr. delos Reyes and the decorated cop Ms. dela Cruz were breadwinners for their families. Both witnesses were offered huge sums to flip by Lacson’s emissaries but both declined and stood by their principles. In the end, they both had to run for their lives and their families’ safety and seek asylum in Canada.

    This case should not be allowed to drag on for years like the Maguindanao Massacre. Kundi, mamamatay ang mga testigo o mag-rerecant.

    • noyab

      yes dapat pabalikin dito yung dalawang brave witnesses para makasuhan na si lacson, aquino and dumlao…..

  • Dawn Dare

    A top-to-bottom revamp is the only way to clean the rotting and stinking PNP

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RDDM5UQ45HLPPKM66KYEBCMTCE dave

    napaka judgmental naman ang babaeng ito. Parang hindi siya abogada. Hindi nagmamatter sa kanya kung anong sabihin ng accused basta na lang ideclare na guilty yung tao.

    • noyab

      bakit di ka ba conformee na hindi shoot out yun but ambush……bakit pinatay lahat kung shoot out…para walang makapagsalita….ganoon lang yun …ugok

      • rouelcalzita

        di ka rin ba ugok?

      • Pedro_Gil

        hindi siya ugok becky hehehe

      • rouelcalzita

        Becky ka pa la…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/GTVNMZR22PGMS55WQPIJTYB4IY Jaime

      I know, it makes you think what kind of people is in the government.

    • $20722540

      opinion lang niya yon walang weight sa kaso yon.  nasabi niyan yon kasi obvious naman yong nangyari niratrat talaga based doon sa witness at mga ginawa nong police at army sa checkpoint…gawain ng isang amateur kong baga

  • bogli_anakdami

    dapat kasi ginamit na lang ang aking mga  50cc honda shooters… walang tiklo at walang kakasuhan…

    at saka sa dami ng papatayin, bibigyan ko kayo ng diskwento…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

    Di ba kaya nagkaroon ng Coplan Armado at ginawang case officer si Marantan ay dahil sa sunod-sunod na pag-ambush ng grupo ni Siman sa mga chief of police sa Laguna, Yung una hindi napuruhan pero yung pangalawa ay napatay, dahil naging problema sila sa pajueteng ni Siman… Bakit ngayon parang kampi pa ang gobyerno sa grupo ni Siman…Samantalang kung nakipa-coordinate sana ang kaibigan ni Siman na may mataas na katungkulang pulis na si Consemino sa checkpoints, ay hindi sana nagkaputukan… Hindi kaya hinohokus -pokus ang imbestigasyon upang mailihis sa katotohanan… Curious lang po…

    • prosecutiongrandstandingsucks

      ang dami kasi collateral damage bok.  hindi mo pwedeng ratratin ang isang bus dahil may tatlo o apat na holdaper sa loob.  tingin ko wala talagang balak si marantan hulihin ng buhay si siman, consequence lang nun kailangan ding patahimikin lahat ng kasamahan nito para walang kakanta.  kahit ako hindi bababa ng sasakyan kung mga armadong naka-sibilyan sumisita.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/GTVNMZR22PGMS55WQPIJTYB4IY Jaime

      you are missing the whole point.  It is about how it is done.

    • $20722540

      maraming tayong hindi alam kong ano talaga nagmotivate para ratratin yong dalawang suv sa atiminan.  sa ngayon ang focus ay kong paano ni niratrat ng police at army na resulta ng pagkamatay ng 13 katao.  yong pagratrat matagal na nilang ginagawa yan and naging successful naman sila..resulted in killing 23 individuals.  unfortunately or fortunately, meron nangyari beyond their control katulad nong nagovertake sa truck yong 2 kotse, tapos yong driver nong truck ay witness sa nangyari at meron pang isang kotse nakasunod sa truck (na puedeng magsabi na meron bang bumalik na isang SUV?). maraming checkpoint sa Quezon (alam ko kasi I travel that route many many times), normally tatlong signage ang ginagamit nila – isa sa gitna, tapos isang going south and isang going north, kaya talagang babagal ng husto, meron pang spot lights sa gabi, tapos meron pang mga sandbags sa checkpoint kasi nga maraming “nice people around” sa area.  sabi ni marantan, meron daw dadaan na armed group…eh araw-araw naman talaga meron dumadaan na armed group diyan sa luagr na ayan…sa Quezon pa..ay naku naman.

  • bogli_anakdami

    para mas malinis ang imbistigasyon, outsource yan sa vietnam… mas mura pa ang magagastos ng aking lupang hinarang, fliplandia, di ba?

  • spraken

    tignan nyo ang SALN nitong si marantan…

  • Simon Ward

    Huh! So Marantan was part of the 2008 Paranaque shootout that killed a schoolmate of my son. I happened to be in Paranaque RTC one day when the judge was inquiring why police had failed to serve subpoenas to any of the officers involved. A lawyer responded that they couldn’t be found, while my own lawyer told me it was an open secret that they were holed up at the local police station. And that’s the last I ever heard of that case.

    Does anyone know, was any justice ever served for that little girl and her father? Was Marantan the leader of that shambolic operation?

    • prosecutiongrandstandingsucks

      i thought it wasn’t really a crossfire, the forces led by marantan mistook the civilian car for that of the criminal elements they were after for.  could’ve been an honest mistake, but what enraged me was after peppering the car with bullets, the injured father alighted from the car with his little daughter tightly clinging on him… merciless police still sprayed them with bullets. i thought it was unforgivable. an injured man clutching his little girl in his arms nursing himself towards safety and they shot the both of them. only an idiot would mistake that father and daughter duo for carnappers. i cried after watching it from the news.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/GTVNMZR22PGMS55WQPIJTYB4IY Jaime

        ..and they promoted him and gave him medals?  Now, what kind of public officials do we have?

      • yun_na

        There’s something direly wrong with our pnp institution… Remember how responsibility over the pnp was taken out of robredo’s hands and put under puno? Also trace back the relationships of the attending physicians of marantan in st Luke’s.. Interesting.

      • $20722540

        we simply hate criminals in our society but they too need to have a day in court.  however, some policemen have the tendency to just shoot people in disguise of legitimate police operations, irregardless if they are the actual target or not including children as you mentioned.  they have no respect for human lives and they believed that they being paid by taxpayers to protect the citizenry from criminal elements by shooting people…in the end, they become even worst than the criminals and get promoted in the police organization…unbelievable!!!  what’s happening in our country.

      • regie

        the one who gave promotion to marantan should be responsible for all the carnage he has committed…hope he can still sleep when the thought of the father and daughter being murdered creeps his mind

      • Garo Ungaro

        The government can be sue for this lapses, This will never happens without the blessings of the government…The justice department/PNP is at the center of all this…instead of firing all involved some remains in the service and some even promoted by the PNP….? good meritorious  service to the community…?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GTVNMZR22PGMS55WQPIJTYB4IY Jaime

    It is still needed and relevant for it might implicate him(Marantan).  You have to hear both sides of the story and from there you can disect who is lying and who is telling the truth, that is justice.

  • doncleo

    Ang taong walang kasalanan at  nagsasabi ng katotohanan ay nakalantad lalo na kung sya ay kailangan pero ang taong may gawang mali o kasalanan ay nagtatago at ayaw pakita maski kaninuman, saan man,…Ang kanyang pangalan   : HANSEL MARANTAN.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AX7A65HBPOATKIEDV77LOLRVUM Colokoy

    pwede bang imbestigahan din kung bakit armado ang grupo ni siman at may kasama pang police officer at sundalo?. sino kaya ang nagbigay ng malacanang sticker sa suv ni siman? bakit naka focus ang investigation kay marantan at operatives? totoo ba ang witness na sinasabi ni delimma o para lng makaganti sa mga police at sundalo na bumaril sa mga illegal at criminal na may kaibigan sa LP? sana ipakilala na sa publiko ang sinasabing witness

    • $20722540

      ang imbestigasyon ay nakafocus sa boung pangyayari hindi kay marantan.  ang sticker ay hindi makakasolve sa pagkamatay ng 13 katao criminal man o hindi.  ikaw naman gusto mo kaagad makilala yong witness…wait ka lang hindi pa nga sisimula ang kaso

    • Pedro_Gil

      Si Colokoy mukhang Pigoy. Colokoy di na kailangan ang testimony ni Maratrat.  Sa korte na lang siya dumepensa dahil mukhang siya ang pinupuntung kriminal dito sa kaso. ayaw mag paimbestiga at napakalayo ng ginamit na mamahaling ospital.  sino gumagastos sa mayabang na pigoy? hehehe. tingnan natin kung sino ang protektor ni maratrat. Hangal!! Colokoy, pwede ba samahan mo na si maratrat sa muntinlupa pag labas niya sa st. lukes. hehehe!

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

      “pwede bang imbestigahan din kung bakit armado ang grupo ni siman at may kasama pang police officer at sundalo?”
      .
      .
      Assumption lang po.

      People do that when they bring in cash. Like payroll, cash payment, etc. Some armored transport companies do not cater to such places (Atimonan-Gumaca) where there are tulisanes (NPA’s) and if they would, you would pay an arm and a leg (just like Marantan…lol) considering the hazards involved. This is where even the army would travel convoys too simply because it would be safer.

      Even in metro manila they do it too. I don’t know if I remember correctly, there was an incident at Jones bridge where a cash payroll convoy was held up.
      .
      .

      “sino kaya ang nagbigay ng malacanang sticker sa suv ni siman?”

      Was in baguio. At the mansion, the guards (PSG?) were selling them.

      Keep in mind that those are stickers, and anyone with printing capabilities can print them.  Also keep in mind that Malacanang has its own seal, and so does the PSG, so only the president CAN ans SHOULD use such a seal.
      .
      .

      “bakit naka focus ang investigation kay marantan at operatives?”

      because they ARE the only people of interest left.

      patay na kasi ang mga victims, perhaps they were killed to prevent them from testifying. and so, the only people that could be blamed are Maratan and co.

      “totoo ba ang witness na sinasabi ni delimma o para lng makaganti sa mga
      police at sundalo na bumaril sa mga illegal at criminal na may kaibigan
      sa LP? ”
      .
      .
      Keep in mind, si Siman ay ‘suspected’ jueteng optr. As marantan now is a ‘suspected’ murderer. The operative word is ‘suspected,’ meaning nothing has been proven in court.

      Given the gravity of what they are being suspected, diba mas grabe yung ‘murder?’ Jueting is gambling, which pag tinaxan mo at ni regulate mo becomes STL (small town lottery). So the difference between jueteng’s legality is just taxation and regulation. Do you think people should die for such offenses?

      “sana ipakilala na sa publiko ang sinasabing witness”
      .
      .
      para patayin ng natitirang grupo ni Marantan?

  • speaksoftlylove

    I agree with De Lima’s announcement that Marantan’s testiomony is no longer needed insofar as the filing of approriate charges of multiple murder is concerned. In fact, you don’t have to take the testimony of the accused before filing cases of murder if you have all the evidence in hand to back up the charges.

    But I strongly disagree with De Lima that Marantan;s testimony is no longer needed in totality. Alam na ng tao na murder o massacre yang nangyari. Ang gustong malaman ng mga tao ay kung sinosino ang mga utak at mga panginoon nila Manrantan, Melad, at Dumlao. Maliban kung may confessions na si De Lima galing kay Melad at Dumlao tsaka pa lang niya sabihin na “Maratnan’s testimony is no longer needed.”

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

      But then, you need it just to tie up loose ends.

      Remember, pag nasa korte na, dapat alam ng mga taga usig ang tatanungin, at lahat ng possibleng sagot ng witness. Pinaka masamang mangyari ay ma bulaga sila pag meron silang di alam.

      2ndly, if you want to demolish Marantan’s credibility, you should have something to contradict din. Not just relying on your own perception of the crime, but also to demolish their story as well.

  • prosecutiongrandstandingsucks

    maybe vic siman is indeed a jueteng lord, but the operatives never bothered to minimize the collateral damage.  i guess marantan wasn’t keen on capturing vic siman alive.  that’s like spraying a bus with bullets just because three holduppers are inside… never mind the collateral damage, just make sure the three holduppers are dead.  rubbish.

    by the way i won’t alight from my vehicle if ever i get flagged down by men armed with M16s… all of them in civilian clothes.  no way.

    • koolkid_inthehouse

      If Siman is a suspect and a jueteng lord, he should have been apprehended and charge. 
      Why not, because the PNP top brass is involve in the illegal jueteng. 

      Clean up of the PNP should start from the top.  No integrity, no honesty among government officials. 

      Looks like all Filipinos are corrupt starting from the top.  Otherwise a drastic moves should have been done. 

      Casino, jueteng, fertilizer, NBNZTE and lots more are handled by evil people.

    • koaks2

      you alight or you dont you’re still dead.

    • Cobra

      This is basically SOP of the PNP shoot then worry about the consequence if there are any later,remember the Luneta hostage taking incidence?the inefficiency & haphazard way the police performed for the whole world to see,only difference w/ the luneta incidence is that can not dispute they stuffed up,but nobody was even charged for the snaffu.The poor tourists only wants to see the Phils. but instead they ended up getting killed, I won’t expect much from the antimonan case either remember de lima promised all sorts of things before.

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        Then if that is the case, the police is part of the problem. And that stopping or not stopping on a check point ends up the same.  At least you had a fighting chance.

        hmmm.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ERCCN5ANNNF7BEBFMYXR6ALGRU Dan

    IN SPITE OF ALL THE CONTROVERSY THAT HE WAS IN, WHY WAS HE PROMOTED TO BEGIN WITH, SOMETHING IS REALLY REALLY WRONG HERE IN THIS COUNTRY

  • farmerpo

    So now what? Are we waiting (anxiously?) for Marantan to do a Palparan disappearing act?
    Get the guy in custody, protective custody to avoid further complications.  Baka magsisi kayo. Daming protector nyan.

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

      oo. sabi nila, associated yan duon sa gambling syndicate opposing Siman’s group. That means the backers has the means.

  • legrandcharles

    Cops + fire-at-will attitude = dead people ( a LOT of dead people). What would surprise me is if anyone found these events surprising. This is the rule rather than the exception. You just change the names of the people involved and you get pretty much the same thing.  Happened before, it’ll happen again.

  • Garo Ungaro

    There’s a lot of truth of what Sec Del lima was saying? since She has been on both side of the fence meaning  as Commission on Human Rights director and now as the DJ head…Her rule is not easy…What she pointing out, this all could be avoided, If the proper protocols where followed. instead of promoting, instead of business as usual…instead of status qou …All PNP personnel that committed law violations should be dealt with by: firing from the service…No leniency,  no matter what. Since it gives the impression, and sent a wrong signal to the rank in file that “its just fine and they can get away with it”…

    Same protocol with the top brass…but when you give/get a selective treatments/justices/penalties to this law violators…The integrity of the Law Enforcement Agencies are eroded in the eyes of the Citizenry…That is why very few or even none believed the Law enforcement. The message is clear; “If you can get away with, then your just fine” This is whats happening the deterioration of the LAW…

    When no respect for Law and  law enforcer has no respect/discipline/integrity/morals/ethical values then this kind of attitudes/behaviors are just part of their law enforcement routine…The leaders/government/citizenry must be one and agree…that CHANGES is one solution. RESPECT for the rule of LAW?????  Its time to change, to much damage  done in the eye of the Citizenry…Meaningful reforms are much needed…..for a CHANGE.???

  • INQ415

    good thing they forgot to include the witnesses in the “shootout” else they would’ve peppered them with “stray bullets” – in the head. O wait, stray bullets are supposed to hit you in the arm and leg.

  • regie

    buti nalang merong secretary de lima kung wala siya tuloy ang ligaya ng mga PACC boys . dati gusto kong maging president si lacson pero ngayon ayaw ko na. eh papano kung makadisgrasya ng civilian sa mga checkpoint eh di magiging ” it is a product of a long investigation and intelligence gathering case operation” na lang….

  • Rovingmoron

    Marantan’s only prerogative is to remain silent. He has also the right to seek a lawyer to defend him once the appropriate criminal charges are filed against him in the court of law. Good luck, Hansel!

  • pasaway008ako

    Nabawasan ang taong gumagawa ng krimen pero galit ang mga taong nasa…, ano ba yan? Ano talaga ang gusto ng mga iyan? Lipulin ang krimen o sila ay kandungin???

  • regie

    nga pala let us not forget where credit is due….kungdi sa mga evidensya ni Johnny Glorioso eh baka natabunan lang ang kasong ito….

  • Taiko_Kauna

    “possible administrative sanction” is all there is that Cerbo thinks Marantan deserves? Ganon na ba ka gunggong ang ating mga opisyales?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H47CPJUE4QYKFUCKSUXK3LNBGI Allan

      yes

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/QVR2HMWEPWZA4TV2Z2Q7BYF36A January

    si Delima,taga usig, taga dada lang but di naman sya humaharap sa mga tarantadong mamamayan,yon bang mga kriminal dumaan ba sa human rights? si Delima ba ay binoto ng tao?  as a Justice Secretary hwag muna sya dada ng dada kunin muna nya ang lahat na impormasyon pariho lang kayo sa mga NBI pa porma lang kayo sa harap ng mga tsismosong medya na naghahanap na balita para may maiitsismis sa kapitbahay.kong kinikwestyon ninyo ang pag ka promote ni Marantan dapat doon nyo itanong sa mga opisyalis ng mga polis hindi sa medya pa ipakalat.kong ang mga mamamayan kaya ang magtanong sa kanya kong dapat ba sya sa katungkolan na iyan,,dapat tahimik muna at kukunin ang totoo bago dada.

  • XY ZEE

    Kudos, Madame Secretary but…how far up are you willing to investigate? 
    Let’s face it, Marantan is just a bit player in the bigger game of politics and jueteng protectors.
    Will you go so far as to investigate the big boys, say the PNP Chief, LGU heads, DILG and PAOCC leadership?
    There remain many rumors that Sec. Robredo’s “accident” was due to his efforts against jueteng.
    The challenge for you now is if you are going to pursue the main characters behind jueteng, even if you discover that they may be friends and colleagues of yours in the administration.
    The ball’s in your hands now Madame Secretary.

  • Bansot

    Makes me wonder why Justice de Lima wishes to shut off Maratnan from saying anything further. Is she trying to prevent a collateral damage to someone’s else reputation ? I assume it is best to expose everything about this crime rather than terminate it half heartedly.

    • Garo Ungaro

      This getting interesting…Police Col Hanzel Marantan affidavit is very important in search for the real truth…Two things:silence does not mean his not guilty…He is the main player
      his testimony will clear him or implicate him. In the court of law …but without good evidence against him them it will hard for the court to prosecute…might get away with a lesser charges…His affidavit will determine his role in the crime. If no affidavit, then it might just fall as circumstancial evidence or accessories to a crime…You know how the wheel of justice in our country..It’s the law..but its about who applies the due process…

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

         “His affidavit will determine his role in the crime. If no affidavit, then it might just fall as circumstancial evidence or accessories to a crime..”

        His affidavit is one of many statements taken into consideration when investigating or deciding a case. Other people’s statements as well as gathered evidence will form a pretty good picture of what happened, which will corroborate his statement if he choose to give one.

        Not giving a statement does not diminish one’s participation in a crime if there are other witnesses who with their statements, could piece together what exactly happened. Also, a prosecutor who could offer a hypothetical theory of how the crime was perpetrated. The judge then ONLY has to appreciate what details that have been presented.

      • Garo Ungaro

        Its correct…Affidavits/statements by witnesses/evidences found on the crime scene will collaborate what really happens…How did it happens?…or why/who/what/where/how of this case?. and would it be better bolstered by some defendants turning a state witnesses. The way it looks on the facts/evidence gathered its MURDER or Capital crime… The elements of premeditations/willful intent were present…in commiting this crime?…(15) police/25 military personnel..must be charge with MURDER…? not unless something again will come up..?

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        “MURDER”

        Agreed. at least for Marantan.

        Accomplices at different degrees less than principal.

      • Garo Ungaro

        I don’t think so… Murder one for the (15) police the intent/premeditations is overwhelming the (25) soldiers a lesser degree at it appears has no knowledge of the intention of the (15) was just lured as a back up… the degree of the crime committed is overwhelming even for said accomplices but the culpability is more on the (15) police (13) dead victims…?

    • Loggnat

      Marantan has links to Dumlao, Dumlao is working for the PAOCC, the head of this organizaton is Paqui Ochoa. Paqui is one of pres. Aquino’s buddy. Paqui is dragging down the president with his binge drinking rumors, jueteng protector allegation from Bishop Cruz, and now this incident. I think that the president has to disassociate himself and remove Paqui from his cabinet this time. Aquino should appoint him to an embassy of a country that is farthest from the Philippines. :))  

  • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

    “Sources in the underground gambling world had earlier said that Marantan
    had a sister named Cenen “Tita” Dinglasan, who was allegedly an
    operator of Siman’s rival gambling syndicate in Southern Tagalog. This
    fueled reports that the Atimonan encounter was a result of a gambling
    turf war.

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    .
    The lesser character in me says that the ‘police’ should also conduct a similar ‘checkpoint’ on that Cenen Dinglasan. With similar results.
    .
    Of course that is bad judgment, says the greater character in me.

  • Barangkuag

    Ohh..what a coincidence. Melad, De Leon, and Marantan come from the same City. Tuguegarao City in Cagayan.

    • batangsulpok

      Di ba si Dumlao ay taga-Cagayan din?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        cagayan ba o isabela??? Me mag aangal na naman ng Ilocandio rules… LOL…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/O65EQ5AGBKWGJOCS32KMPN4PFI Lorelei

        ybanag, not ilocano

    • glg_ph

       how interesting hmmmmm

    • Hurtlocker1

       LAKAY BROTHERHOOD.

    • Paliwaweng

      baka ‘kamaganak incorporated’ pa sila.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/A5CN52KKTWUHFZJZCWGMAIGZJM Gandalf

    We are curious– why was  he promoted, despite his mounting bodycount? Is the PNP some kind of a Mafia-style organization, where hitmen–those “made” men–are promoted?
    Do they also have godfathers, and such?
    Yes, ladies and gentlemen–these are the men and women who serve and protect us.
    Let us stop and think about that really hard. 

    • Hurtlocker1

      ” Do they also have godfathers, and such?”

      ah!!!! sinabi mo pa!!! obvious ba???

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    Hmm.. I’m afraid that DOJ Sec. De Lima’s background as a human rights lawyer might be influencing her decisions on this issue.

    Supt. Marantan might appear to be a brutal man but violence is the only language those lawless elements understand. It’s quite rare to find one cop with balls nowadays.

    • Bansot

      You might be right, he stood up his ground and shoot it out, while others peed in their pants and cowered in fear.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      “Supt. Marantan might appear to be a brutal man but violence is the only language those lawless elements understand. It’s quite rare to find one cop with balls nowadays.” True… let the lawless elements tremble in fear.. a PAOCC headed by Sen. Lacson, with aquino, dumlao & marantan… rock & roll!!!

    • John_Cruz

      RyanE, Jezzrel and Bansot are the next collateral damage. You can enjoy super-party in HELL!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

        Perhaps you’re misinformed. Try to check the statistics on the numbers of those killed by criminals and those killed during alleged “rub-out”. There are definitely a lot more ordinary persons killed while walking in the streets of Metro Manila and other cities compared to those killed at a police checkpoint.

    • batangpaslit

      right

  • maypakialamtayo

    But I can look you straight in the eye that I am not on the take (from gambling operations). I am not even from (Southern Tagalog),” Marantan said., weeehhh,, di nga!

    • speaksoftlylove

       Why should Marantan take money from gambling operators? Marantan is the giver of payola money himself because his sister is a jueteng queen, pathetic!

      • John_Cruz

        That explains why he was treated at St Luke not VA Hospital. He is the partner of the Jueteng Queen.

      • rouelcalzita

        By his own salary, he can’t afford the cost at St. Luke.
        So from payoff of jueting Lord.

  • maypakialamtayo

    kapag si lacson na ang PAOCC head, yang si glenn dumlao, marantan at ray aquino ang mga right hand nya, kaya yung mga gumagawa na ng illegal o krimen dyan, alam nyo na!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      Good tandem indeed!!!

  • divictes

    Unless he rewrites the script from action to musical singing “Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa…”

  • basilionisisa

    sounds like ‘his testimony would no longer matter’ from De Lima is just a ‘trap’ for Marantan to speak up, nevertheless, i hope he does and he tells the truth, regardless of the negative consequences. There is always something GOOD that comes out if TRUTH is TOLD.

    it may not help him in his ‘case’ but hopefully, in lifting his morale: 1) some people recognize the fact that law enforcing is a double-edged sword, there is only a thin line separating you as a ‘hero’ or a ‘villain’, 2) sometimes you are designated to ‘do the dirty’ job, DIRTY but a GOOD job nonetheless, for which others may benefit (isn’t it noticeable that there are less carnapping and carjacking, kidnapping for ransom, and violent burglaries lately or in the past 2 years? i just wish Marantan was there during the violent killing in Rockwell Makati).

    i hope De Lima is not acting for the HRC here but for the D-O-J! Let Justice, Peace and Order be served, and SERVED WELL!

    • isprikitik

      reverse psych yang style ni de lima ky marantan… :)  “marantan’s testimony not needed” rephrased from de lima’s words…    but actually de lima is just waiting if the fish can be caught through its mouth….game of minds…which is a means to solve cases…

  • koolkid_inthehouse

    Idiotic police works.  Full of cover ups, why massacre?  There must be a motive, maybe a prize money to kill jueteng lords.  I want to form my own contracting company to hunts down jueteng lords.  

    Where should I go to get a permit?

    • CustomsNeighbor

      Do you accept investors?

      • koolkid_inthehouse

        Sure.  Are you one of the lords?  Bounty hunters will work for a few peso more.  Do you want to erase a competition?

        I have to list my company at PHISEX, ‘Anak ng Jueteng Bounty Hunter’.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H47CPJUE4QYKFUCKSUXK3LNBGI Allan

    the more we read about his incident, the more i think the pnp hierarchy is inutile.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H47CPJUE4QYKFUCKSUXK3LNBGI Allan

    at this point,marantan must be put in “protective custody” dahil he will definitley disappear the moment cases pile up against him. the people will no longer believe the pnp that they were not informed about the possible disappearing act of marantan.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SC573R5VTMJ6ISRH635DJ2XVLI San

    when the dust settles, he’ll even get promoted, Case closed.

  • http://twitter.com/Olibo2 Olibo

    Gambling is addictive like heroin,
    jueteng is evil, the death of the lords (gambling),
    the downfall of a president…

  • Albert Einstien

    parehong pareho sa KURATONG….pulis din  ang mga involved…pera din ang dahilan..mga BUHAY ang KABAYARAN……

    kaya pinkakulelat ang pnoy admin sa FDI dahil ang mga  INVESTORS ay may isip din….papano ka mag-invest ng TOTOONG negosyo sa RP kung mga ilang PNP at AFP at intel groups nila ay PARTNERs ng criminal syndicates…kaya pala mga CASINO ang gusto nila investment dito….protected pag GAMBLING BUSINESS…di ba dapat mas maganda kung manufacturing at agriculture……ay MERON na pala..manufacturing at planting of EVIDENCE…..lol….

  • tra6Gpeche

    Yes, Marantan’s testimony is irrelevant and meaningless. Because such will just be full of lies. Thank you Secretary de Lima for making such statement! Send him to prison and strip him of all the benefits, retirement or otherwise. If he has “padrino,” then send this “padrino” to prison also! 

  • basyong

    im not a fan of de lima and i was one of those who blogged on her with unkind words.but this time, she is truly doing her job in the right direction.meaning tuwid na daan na galing sa kanya hindi kay abnoy.people just want to know the truth and if you are for the truth you will gain their respect for what you do.good luck madam.

  • kontra_boohaya

    Marantan was in a kill-or-be-killed situation when he was fired upon first, as he claimed.  Granted that it was an overkill, such a situation exists in a fog of war.  And from that point forward, the Atinoman situation remains foggy.  Let th axe fall where it must.  It’s just too bad, the PNP’s already questionable integrity and tarnished reputation are eron the limelight.  Whether we take  either side, fact of the matter is high-ranking PNP personnel are on either side of the coin.   

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

      That is why to those whom much is given, much is expected.

      People expect that innocents remain away from pain and death. The very people we give that authority is the one serving it to the innocent people.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2JVSEXTMANAEZGLOSZGWJYW67Q Jess

    Ang galing ni Marantan pumatay ng hindi lang tao, kundi mga tao, and he always got away with it, but not this time. Sec De Lima will make sure he doesn’t get away with it this time. Some people upstairs may be protecting him, and Dumlao whose fingers are always itching at the  trigger.  The only man in the government is a woman, Sec De Lima. She will make sure these Berdugos will be put away, for good.

  • whipnsaddle

    Kailangan bantayan si Marantan baka sumama yan kay Palparan at di na rin makita….

  • alfonso hiponia

    Very good, Sec. de lima.

  • Janch

    Sino kaya ang naatasan ni Marantan na bumaril sa kanya?  Pulis, military o siya na lang ang bumaril sa paa at kamay niya?

  • whipnsaddle

    Bantayan si Marantan baka sumama kay Palparan yan….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ME73SJ2KNVTMNU4JMRMRLRYPVQ zom

    Sooner or later, lalamig na ang balitang ito, at si marantan, mangraratrat ulit

    • batangpaslit

      historical, eh?

  • regd

    Wrong answer justice Dilemma. You need to hear all sides, all the angles irrespective whether one party is lying or not. That is for the court to decide. I’m going for the rubout but it must be done right. Protect the witness tightly since NBI has a reckless reputation on safekeeping. We just gotta feel the layers of lies and inconsistencies and eventually we’ll know what really happen. 

    THE TRUTH IS VERY SIMPLE, ONLY LIES ARE COMPLICATED.

    • batangpaslit

      may punto

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IJIUASZHAVUI2ADFY75TX5276A ALFREDO ALEX

    BAKIT NAPAKABILIS NG ACTION NI ATTY LEILA DE LIMA SA KASONG ITO PERO WALANG ACTION SA KASONG PAGPATAY KAY ENVIRONMENTALIST/BOTANIST LEONARDO CO?

  • disqusted0fu

    It is a fact that jueteng is much abundant in the PH, as well as there are big time syndicates who run the show. There is also a big possibility that law enforcers and even government officials are involved in it as it is known that jueteng racks up big bucks. With all these information, the government should be able to prevent this illegal and apparently deadly numbers game. but they cant because they are either late in acting or not acting at all.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

    Siguro kung mga mayor at congressman ang na ambush, hindi gaanong mag react ang mga tao.

    • batangpaslit

      hehehe…
      you mean, mas saintly ba ang Jueteng Lord kesa Political Warlord?

  • WeAry_Bat

    It’s a gangsta movie.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FOPMU3EOVKFANYIWAADV7EZAXU Divina Wind

    Very complicated, but obviously, Marantan can get things done- unlike Leila de Lima- puro daldal.

    Marantan is guilty but he will get away with it- kasi mayroon siyang powerful connections- and Leila de Lima is so slow and the NBI is so corrupt.

    • muddygoose

      As usual, there are people who constantly wish that certain personalities fail, even if that failure is to the detriment of our society.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4R3GZTGML26TV2VGS6RVHP2THM Fred

    Maratrat, nandyan ka pa rin ba sa St Luko Hosp.?

  • Miriam_enrile

    kkpkpkpk

  • AllinLawisFair

    Marantan was from Tuguegarao, Cagayan province, Enrileland. Could it be that he is one of Enrile’s trusted men? Why the arrogant show of bravery? Why the promotions?

    • http://www.facebook.com/andy.mendoza.1044 Andy Mendoza

      ha!ha!ha! correct! kunin yan ni enrile. you’ll see….

      • sanjuan683

         Baka itapon ni tandang Enrile yan dahil election na makakasama  sa UNA. Dahil UNA sila matatalo dahil may kasama sila plunderer at nognog kunwari galit sa martial law ngayon kasama yun author ng martial law. Hay pulitika nga naman. kabilanin.

  • Miriam_enrile

    Sec. De Lima, when will you ever learn not to grandstand on issues you know you cannot deliver on? Did you not promise not too long ago that you would run after the people who provided shelter to the ertswhile fugitive from justice Sen. Lacson? You could not even identify 1, let alone prosecute the people who gave shelter to this fugitive senator.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NEFQQQUPW36JDNMGYBWB2DLDI4 anthony

    these is not the Right statement coming from the Secretary of Justice herself…..these is a blatant display of Injustice…..oka lang kong ang nagsabi nito ordinaryong tao,para bang tapos na ang kaso,guilty na ang kabila…

  • $23228448

    i think his testimony is very important, it probably would implicate someone higher up the ladder

  • patawad

    Sa Info technology ngayon, dapat simple na lang ang imbestigasyon.  As soon as they can, the investigators should have interviewed  separately all those who fired their guns among policemen and soldiers.  Dapat di sila mabigyan ng time to weave and corroborate lies. Kung iba iba sinasabi, that means they are lying.

  • iskurokutoy

    Ilang araw na bang naka-confine sa St. Lukes’s Global City si Marantan? Mga magkano na kaya RUNNING BILL niya doon? 

    • sanjuan683

       Dapat bayaran ni De Lima yan bills sa ospital. Tutal pakialamera ka rin lang ikaw na magbayad. Nag-iimbestiga ka pagkatapos may judgement ka na. Lupit mo naman kailan kaya matatapos ang kaso ni De Lima, gusto ko matagal ang pagiging abogado nito.

  • kabayandinako

    De Lima as Secretary of Justice you must not pre-judged any cases under investigation. Even court Judges can not do it. It is very unethical and  unprofessional. As a justice Secretary you have too many biased statements that must not be coming out from your mouth. Impartiality is a virtue on your present position. Without it you have no business being there.

  • Your_King

    Yeah his statement may not be needed coz what Marantan might say is that he was just following the lead of the President and the Sec of Justice. I’m sure he saw how Aquino and De Lima take the law into their own hands and as long as they can justify the act and maybe cover it up through the media information then that’s how the Philippine works for those in power.

  • Magkanoka?

    I am not for the defense of Marantan. I was just wondering why the good secretary is questioning Marantan’s involvement in the series of purported encounters. The answer is quite simple though, of course, it’s simply because he is a Police Officer and it is part of his duty to engage with the enemy. I would rather be in a controversial encounter rather than just sitting down there doing nothing kundi “Mangotong” and be branded as “Pulis Patola.” As long as the investigating agencies and the court proves nothing on any police officers involvement in an alleged encounter, nothing is wrong to getting promoted! Was there already a court decision that had convicted or found Marantan guilty from the series of controversial encounters from 2005 to present Secretary De Lima?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/O65EQ5AGBKWGJOCS32KMPN4PFI Lorelei

      You should read “Letter from a mother” from the wife of seaman Alfonso De Vera who was shot in the head while kneeling arms raised & head bowed, pleading for the life of their 7 year old daughter who was decapitated in the 2008 rubout. The De Vera case was dismissed, and dismissal was reversed only last year. 

  • Love God

    Let us hear both the sides before coming to any conclusion. Let the truth come out as TRUTH.

    Either it was a shoot-out or rub-out or a turf war, police and military officers travelling with an operator of a big time criminal syndicate is highly questionable, worse shocking.

    This is the reason there is no end to criminality in our land. This is the reason we cannot stop the illegal number game.

    This is the reason there is no end to our drug problem. 

    Police, Military and politicians are either involved or act as protectors of this syndicate. Drug caught are recycled, Military sell arms to rebels are just shocking truth we all know.

    Our President, Sec. Roxas and Sec. De Lima are incorruptible and honest leaders but they cannot be doing the ground operation personally every corner of the 7000+ islands.

    We need a moral revolution in which every citizen must be a participant. Then we can say we are free indeed from the clutches of crime and corruption.

    God bless!    

    • bogli_anakdami

      ay sus ginoo… dito sa fliplandia eh walang TRUTH… meron kaming TUROTOT…

      kaya nga pati si jkristo eh iniwan tayong mga flips para magdusa…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5TENDBNOVQRJEKFPV76D2N4XUM Socorro

    Sec. De Lima should made it open to public WHO is Marantan’s  “big boss”  why is he that gutsy and why is he still handling sensitive operations when has cases to settle? Once the WHO came out all questions will be answered, besides command responsibility sa military di ba, the faults of your subordinates is the faults of the officers, kasi “obey before you ask” sila. 

  • loyte

    Porki si Marantan ay may gun wounds ay shootout na.  It could be that marantan’s injury was casued by a retaliatory fire from the SUVs.  So the theory of the NBI that it was an ambush could still stand even with the gun wounds of marantan.

  • loyte

    Porki si Marantan ay may gun wounds ay shootout na.  It could be that marantan’s injury was casued by a retaliatory fire from the SUVs.  So the theory of the NBI that it was an ambush could still stand even with the gun wounds of marantan.

  • batangpaslit

    the guy who stands behind the NBI Director holding a celfon is he a bodyguard or a staff assistant?
    regardliess, he looks sloppy.
    look at the way he stands.
    mukhant tamad, mukhan iresponsible na mama

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZMYIL5FXLVIHRZXBQGONZS6U4 Jhune

    Saan ba talaga tayo kuya, pag ang pulis ay hindi gumagawa at matatakutin “Pulis patula” o kaya “Pulis provincia”, ngayon may Pulis na may kayang maki pag pitpitan ng bayag galit na galit si Laila. 

    • koolkid_inthehouse

      Nakahatak ka yata o baka talagang mabagal ka lang sa pag-iisip.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SCXXS733PYX62M5K3GO2TRWAHY bunduk sa burabura

    nasa tamang proceso mga kaibigan kung ang tatanungin mo una palang sablay n mga pulis 1 wala sa tamang area ang chicpoint pangalawa walang uniforme mga pulis eteligence ka lang hindi ka dapat manguna sa gera pangatlo hndi nila tinirahan ng buhay para magsalita manlng sa mga ginagawa nlng kasalanan pang apat nan dun ung mga scort n mga pulis hnd manlng nila tinanong kung bk8 my baril cla anu sadya ng mga napatay nila pang lima hndi lalaban mga un kc maraming sundalo kasama ni marantan pang anim bak8 ung sasakyan hndi manlng nakausad o nagmaniobra kung nagkabarilan nga talaga pag pito bak8 hndi nakababa sa sasakyan ung mga patay kung nagbarilan nga naman, ito lang masasabi jan ung baril n tumama sa balikat at binti ni marantan ay baril ng mga napatay kc nung minasacare nila patay lhat at sinigurado nila n walang mabuhay pinagbabaril nila sa ulo tapos n at saka nagbaril c marantan sa sarili gamit ang baril ng mga napatay para my kwentong mahaba iligaw ang ivestegation,

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