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‘It was a legitimate operation,’ soldiers in Atimonan shooting say

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OVERKILL A member of the National Bureau of Investigation forensic team examines marks left by a hail of bullets that hit this SUV and another vehicle, and killed all 13 onboard, including police officers and soldiers. Most of the bullets were believed to have been fired by a police-military team stationed at a checkpoint in Atimonan, Quezon. RAFFY LERMA

MANILA, Philippines–Members of the Armed Forces of the Philippine who were involved in an alleged shootout in Atimonan, Quezon that killed 13 people maintained before the National Bureau of Investigation that the operation was legitimate.

“This [was] a legitimate operation. They were asked to assist the PNP (Philippine National Police) under Colonel (Hansel) Marantan,” lawyer Crisanto Buella, representing the military special forces, said Wednesday at the NBI.

Buella said Major General Alan Luga, Southern Luzon Commander; Lieutenant Colonel Monico Abang and Captain Erwin Macalinao, Commander of the 3rd Special Forces Company appeared before the NBI and submitted their affidavit.

“According to the affidavit, they were fired upon. The person inside the vehicle fired first,” Buella said.

The AFP came into the picture after the PNP sought their assistance that an armed group would pass by the area.

Buella explained that under the AFP and PNP memorandum of Agreement, the military can assist the PNP in operations like the one in Quezon last January 6.

All the firearms used by the military have been submitted for investigation by the NBI, Buella added.

Currently, Regional Director for Region IV-A Calabarzon Chief Superintendent James Melad is being questioned by the NBI.

The NBI has been tasked by Malacañang to investigate and determine what happened in the Atimonan incident and if any, determine who should be held liable.


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  • bugoybanggers

    Kaya nga binago na ang Check point procedure ng PNP-AFP. Poste lang ang kapulisan/kasundaluhan at tingnan lang ang sasakyan. Walang hahawak o maghahalungkat. Ano pa? Para walang enkwentro at hulian.. kaya walang sisihan sa bandang huli.

    • sanjuan683

      Masalimoot yan kaya huag ka na makisawsaw wala ka alam diyan. hehehehehhe

      • patukar

        Sa isang blogger kasama ka rin sa kumakain ka siguro ng lumpia at nakikisawsaw ka rin sa maasim na suka!

      • bugoybanggers

        Anong walang alam, ako nga naipalusot ko ang M60 machinegun ko sa checkpoint. Simple lang nasa trunk ng kotse ko. Dumaan ako sa 2 checkpoint sa QC, kinawayan ko lang ang mga Pulis sabay hello, larga na hindi man lang pinabuksan ang Trunk ng kotse at ang compartment sa loob kaya ayos nakakatuwa. Kaya dapat lahat makisawsaw dahil masarap ang timpla ng Checkpoint sa Pinas. Manhid ka ba?

  • koaks2

    it was a legitimate operation ang lelang mo

  • koaks2

    tell it to the marines

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

      hahaha, baka lalong magkagulo pag isinama mo pa ang mga marines

      (joke)

  • boypalaban

    naunang magpaputok daw ang mga nasa loob ng sasakyan…at nagpa-practice kung gaano sila kaasintado bumaril sa paa ng nag che-checkpoint….

  • boypalaban

    legitimate operation TO WIPE OUT ALL RIVAL JUETENG LORDS….

  • Markov Chain

    hahahah…napaka bobo naman ng mga namatay at alam nilang maraming criminal este pulis at sundalo sa checkpoint at may mga mahahabang armas kaya inunahan nila kaagad dahil nasa loob sila ng bullet proof na SUV at mga sniper silang lahat…..hai naku…d yata sila na sali sa briefing nung mga cirminal este pulis kung ano dapat sabihin pagkatapos….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EB7ESBRK6JQJCBD6LSNNUUUOOQ Juanito

    mga pilipino talaga mahilig manghusga kahit wala dun sa ingkwentro!kaya tyo walang asenso,matabil ang bibig at mahilig tyo sa tsismis.paano kung totoong ng tatratrabaho lng yung mga kapulisan at sundalo?mas mabuti png manahimik n lng kayo at di nyo naman alam ang totoo.

    • boypalaban

       oo nga naman…trinabaho na nila mga karibal sa jueteng…

    • dodong1

      kasama ka na dun…once a Pilipino always a Pilipino…kaya manahimik ka din kung ganun..KUHA MO!!!

    • sagbotgamot

      pwde tanong? magkano share mo sa “legitimate” operation.. balato naman! hehehe

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/EB7ESBRK6JQJCBD6LSNNUUUOOQ Juanito

        yan na nga ba sinasabi ko eh,isa pang tsismoso ayusin nyo na lng buhay.wala akong pinapanigan,ang punto ko wag manghusga.kung ngkasala ang pulis dapat parusahan.pero hanggat di napapatunayan na rubaout manahimik muna.

      • patukar

        Sa lahat ng walang pinapanigan ikaw lang ang bias! hahahaha

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/74DX67S5U6H557SPUXS5XZ6QJI Alisto Juan

    Dito sa Mindanao, mag-joint operation lang ang PNP-AFP pag ang kalaban ay NPA, ngayon lang ako nakakita na ganito sa isang law enforcement business. May monkey busimess talaga si Marantan, partners niya itong mga opisyals. . 

    Dito, katabi lang ng barracks ng Army ang swertres controler ni hindi ginalaw ng AFP dahil wala silang paki-alam sa gambling business at dahil silay tumataya din, maganda pa nga yung hearing number nila. . .  

  • mekeni62

    ah yes it was a legitimate rubout.

  • malek_abdul

    The case operation plan (coplan) was indeed legitimate. The execution of the coplan made it illegitimate. Anyways the burden of proof now lies to the investigators and courts to prove otherwise because dead men tell no tales.

  • AllaMo

    Well, if imelda and her brood and ilk, enrile and his ram and ilk, erap and his brood and ilk, gloria and her brood and ilk, and, every other big-time hustler still making hay in the Philippines always say that everything they do and have done is legal – why should every other wanna-be say any different…

    • patukar

      You forgot your own ilk yellowish muta in your eye currently this issue under your idol ilk administration. The first salvo news came from your favorite malacanan spokeman Valte that the operation is legitemate.

  • Magsasaka

    sabi ng mga military na involve legit daw?eh sabagay legit din ang sabi nila noong rinatrat nilang yong isang sikat na botanist at pinalalabas na may encounter daw hehehe

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SEELVC6DK2B7HXWCXDMTNQXLLE Jonas

    ask those soldiers whats the meaning of legitimate ,,,,,hahahhahahahaha

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SEELVC6DK2B7HXWCXDMTNQXLLE Jonas

    its mission accomplished …army says…hahahahhahahha,,,,,,,

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AX7A65HBPOATKIEDV77LOLRVUM Colokoy

    determine who should be held liable?. Hindi pa tapos ang kaso nagsasabi na ang malacanang ng ganito, ba galling ng malacanang.. naniniwala ang malacanang sa media at sa mga kasabwat ng jueteng lord, illegal mining operator at gun running syndicate. Ano ito dahil sa politics o jueteng payola.. dapat ang mga illegal at criminal I wipe out tulad sa davao ngayon takot na ang mga criminal at illegal doon mag operate.. Kaya walang asenso ang pinas dahil ang illegal kinakampihan, walang mga disiplina

  • http://www.facebook.com/bel.puncia Bel Puncia

    bakit kaya mga maraming kasong pulis pinahahawak pa ng mga sensitibo kaso na relieve na paGKATAPUS ANNDIYAN ULIT TULAD NI DUMLAO MARANTAN MELAD AY AYWAN KO

  • http://www.facebook.com/bel.puncia Bel Puncia

     ang  abs cbn estation nga mga bakla 

  • boymanok

    soldiers pala ang may sabi eh….so illegitimate nga yan

  • TUMBOKIN

    Your ops maybe legit but the fact of overkill remains .
    I am not an expert but …

    1.  The checkpoint team had superior numbers.
    2.  Checkpoint team had superior firepower.
    3.  Check point team were positioned at a vantage point (outside the car)…More room to maneuver.

                                     …. strike 3 and you are out!!!

  • juniorjuan

    Some of these soldiers are too dumb to think that most Pinoys are that dumber, to say “it was a legitimate operations”  If kill them all was a text book approach by the uniformed men, then we are all fcked! It’s too sad that dirty money runs the Philippines.   

  • sagbotgamot

    of course, all military targets and killings by the rule are all legitimate and legal even women and children, muslims or christians. what happened to the soldiers of the 19th IB army who were responsible for the brutal killing of environmental scientist Leonardo Co and a DENR forest guard  while conducting biodiversity research in a watershed area in Leyte, will happen to the soldiers involve in Atimonan “massacre”

  • disqus_EWrSdjV1nv

    KUNG MALI SI MELAD, TAMA ANG HINALA KO NA SI NOYNOY MISMO ANG NATIONAL JUETENG LORD!!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/2I5Z6CAZKOTTPZEHG4LFXYUFFA dudes

      empeachment na nman yan hahahaha…

  • Mattino2011

    Ayan na…step 3 na ng cover up hahaha..Ningas cogun un NBI  ata

  • Your_King

    At some point it will just turn into a blame game if it hasn’t already. NBI will blame the PNP…the PNP will blame the AFP…and the AFP will blame somebody else…then it will turn into an excuses galore. Corrupt police is a reflection of a corrupt government. It starts with the executive branch setting a good example but that has not happened.

    • Garo Ungaro

      You got a good observation, It must come from the top to set an example of was right thing to do in good governance. But the problem the bad elements in the government refused to get the message of the “Daan Matuwid” clean governance…as a leader be strict and walk the walk…Your one time leader…do what is right for the your boss the People…We know your doing your best as a leader…but the facts remain some of those in governance refused to respect the set example you’ve been working…?What will you do with this kind of Baggages in your good governance. Where with you on this crusade were tired of this TRAPOS….? Where aware of the improvements?…

      • Your_King

        Bad elements refusing to get the message can be contributed to the President himself refusing to follow the rules. There was a call for total election gun ban yet with probably 100 bodyguards surrounding him, he exempts himself from the ban. Sin Tax is supposed to improve the health of the Philippines yet PNoy is a serious chain smoker. He has his KKK side-swipe the law yet he covers-up for them. How can people below you follow in good-governance when they see that the President does whatever he wants just coz he’s the President.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WTIRTIXLBR5X47RMVKB3T43SWA charles

    great job AFP and PNP…for calling a massacre or a rubout a “legitimate” operation…!!!

  • potatosalad

    tama na yan. Halalan na. lol

  • Albert Einstien

    PUTING-PUTI …….ano kayang milagro ang kelagan nilang gawin para maBALEWALA yun mga PICTURES na inilabas ng abs at witness ng news5………..lol

  • Chris P Pnono

    magalling lang mga military kong walang kalaban laban ang katapat..pero kong MILF zero balance sila.anak ng jueteng mga military ..doon kayo magpakita ng abilidad nyo sa mga kalaban ng batas.

  • Chris P Pnono

    parang panahon pa ng al capone  hahaha matira ang matibay sa god fathers ng anak ng jueteng..

  • Pitbulldog

    Whatever explanation the AFP will lay before you, morons, nothing will assuage your doubts just because you have convinced yourselves from the start that the lawmen were on the erring side.  You will keep on assuming and weaving hallucinatory scenarios and falsehoods just to cling unto your idiocy.  Better cease, because that may negatively impact your sanity mga engots.  Dapat sa inyo kinakatusan para maalog ang ulo.  Kung baga sa boksing, talo na kayo, sige pa rin ang sabing nanalo at dinaya.  Para kayong si Marquez niyan nang matalo 2 times.  Buti na lang si Pacquaio, di makaangal dahil plakda talaga at one time lang.

    • speaksoftlylove

       O di sige mauna ka ng kutusan si Mar Roxas. Bakit naman niya nirelieve si Melad at mga tauhan nito tama naman pala sila?  At bakit naman nila nilaglag si Manratrat at umiiyak na dahil siya ang nagiging “collateral damage” tama naman pala si Marantan? Tama ka, legal ang “Kupalan Operation.” Kutusan mo na yang mga idolo mo sa palasyo at AFP, bilis.

  • East_Crusader

    Technically speaking, i think these AFP and PNP need a rigid markmanship  training, what i can see from the pictures, i can say that they just aim and fire their riffles, the PNP-AFP team is 3-1 against them, it should be 2-shoot for every personnel..hay, sayang naman bala..at saka ung chance ng may tamaan na sibilyan ay mataas dahil sa stray bullet..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

    Sabi ng witness na kalong pa ang anak niya ay yung nasa suv ang unang nagpaputok, ganon din ang sabi ng mga sundalo, mga pulis at may tamang si Marantan. Ang hindi ko maintidihan ay bkit ayaw silang paniwalaan ng marami parang kampi pa sila sa well organized na mga kriminal na mga gun for hire, illegal drugs, illegal gambling at jueteng… Hintayin na lang sana ang konklusyon ng imbestigasyon…

    • http://www.facebook.com/jtpenton Musta Na Mo

       ano naman ang mapala kung maniwala kina Marantan ang pera ay nasa mga kriminal syempre ang NBI lang parte kung papanig kina Marantan…remember NBI Director Gatdula…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4R3GZTGML26TV2VGS6RVHP2THM Fred

    Lumalalim at lumalabo ang istorya!
    Abangan ang susunod na kabanata.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UWISP2YXGDQ7K2SIX2GI37B2EI Darwin

    Where is the 3rd van?????!!!!! Andaming checkpoints na nilagay, hindi dapat nakaalis yun.

    • doncleo

       Nasa 3rd van yung asset nila Marantan. Nakakapagtaka nakatakas samantalang may naka-block na military truck sa likod nila…mabalitaan na lang natin patay na din yung asset sa mga darating na araw.

      • http://twitter.com/d3marketers SAMMY

        Andun isinakay yong bag na pula na nakunan ng picture pero nawala at di isinama sa mga isinumiteng  mga ebidensya. Milyones dolyares calamares daw ang laman nun

      • doncleo

        Ganyan din nangyari sa kuratong baleleng nawala yung malaking pera.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UWISP2YXGDQ7K2SIX2GI37B2EI Darwin

    Showeirng targets with bullets, to the point of peppering them to death is a legitimate operation. WOW.

  • http://twitter.com/d3marketers SAMMY

    Mahigit isang linggo na ang pangyayaring ratratan na to pero nakakapagtataka ang defeaning silence ni Etta Rosales ng CHR…..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/WZVCCWBGIIAGOV4OTB3B525ZOU John

      oo  nga…dapat ipagtanggol ni Rosales si Siman. Jueting at gun for hire lng nmn yung pinapatakbong negosyo nun…

      • http://twitter.com/d3marketers SAMMY

        Ganun ba bro? Si Siman lang ba ang napatay dun? 

    • http://www.facebook.com/jtpenton Musta Na Mo

       di nya alam ang gagawin pasensya na…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UWISP2YXGDQ7K2SIX2GI37B2EI Darwin

    May major eye deficiency kasi lahat ng na-assign sa operation. Kaya they have to spray the suspects with bullets to make sure na walang kawala. – Yan ang dapat na sag

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    If AFP and PNP are calling this legitimate, is the palace lying?

    Laglagan na!

    • doncleo

       Legitimate only as far as they are concerned because of the existence of a MOA but he PNP is the lead agency here under the office of the executive secretary… may proposal nga sa coplan Armado pero wala approval kaya malamang may sibakan dito.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W6UV7JR6LDQ7YYGVAMDOBGEPIM Rami

    The military officers are trained to have targeted killing if needed in  encounter even in a delicate situation;it is not just killing insects or pests in an edifice  like those we hire as terminator.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZMGHSM27H4Y3KLQ4SBAB4XZFV4 Peter

    Ang babait ninyong lahat!!!!wala kayong lahat kasalanan kasi ginagawa nyo lang ang trabaho!!!!sana kuhaninin na kayo sa langit!!!

  • kishbuff

    Korek! Sa term ng military, LEGITIMATE SA KANILA ANG MANG-RATRAT!

  • reychard678

    What was lacking in all reports of the NBI published  was the result of the paraffin test on the victims to attest to the veracity of the contentions of the gunmen that these victims fired first and that there truly was a gun battle. As an observer plainly using the news reports as contending facts coupled with the use of common sense which may not be valid but shared only for recrimination’s sake, the allegation of these soldiers that the groups of consemino and siman fired first is hard to believe considering that he (consemino) is a PNP colonel, battle tested and a PNPA graduate would not be fool hardy to risk his life to order his men to fire at the large group of soldiers and policemen carrying heavy guns also granting that he’s a protector or partner of Siman, such offense is minor that they have to risk their lives to fight in a no win situation.

    Consemino, Siman and their group aren’t bank robbers or wanted persons nor fugitives from justice to at random fight their way out in that tight situation. Another fact to ponder is that the victims were outnumbered 13 to 40 or one against three and some even don’t have guns so only a lunatic would risk to fight in that no way out situation. On the flip side of the story, maybe there’s a trigger happy or a drug crazed bodyguard of Siman who fired first to cause the grief and sorrow to the victims families but to the institution of law and order the Atimonan killings is a very potent revelation to affirm the verity of the reports that PNP officers are protectors of illegal gambling.

  • Jeff Clint

    What could have happened if in this Atimonan Incident Mr. Rico Puno became the DILG Secretary? 

  • opinyonlangpo

    Thats how powerful the criminals are in the Philippines, they can make ambush or rubout appear legal.

  • Fulpol

    legitimate operation, of course….

    but it was an ambushed…

    during a war, ambushing an enemy is a legitimate operation…. still an ambush..

    • CyberPinoy

      Ambush pano nangyari yun if they were fired upon first. An ambush is defined as a surprise attack to unsuspecting targets. Kung totoong naunang mamaril ang nasa vehicles ibig sabihin hindi yun ambush.

      • speaksoftlylove

         Clueless one, you don’t need to call for reinforcement from the military more particularly an Army Special Forces “in full battle gear” Except when you are in “Actual On going firefight and you are Outnumbered” kuha mo? The number of policemen in the area are more than enough to neutralize the enemy moreso when you have already taken Vantage position and you are prepared to pepper the convoy with bullets.

  • uugodugod

    SIYEMPRE DI GANOON NGA ANG SASABIHIN

  • buttones

    Well that’s a relief…now we have a ‘soldiers tale’ to add to the list- the NBI of course have been tasked to find out exactly, from a position of actual evidence, forensic evidence and so on. That report should be the only one that matters, the procedural path leading up to this has been well discussed…..and the failure of our PNP and our Justice system that led to this as well. I was under the impression- clearly erroneous- that if people are ‘known’ to be criminals the PNP go and arrest these people, and. armed with all the evidence they have put them through the judicial system and put them in jail. Now it seems we have a system that bypasses that process…ok it’s certainly cheaper for me as a tax payer but is it right?

  • malek_abdul

    Coplan Armado is legitimate…what made it illegitimate is how the
    operation was carried out. Next time do it properly without collateral
    damage pero the question is: What were the men in uniform and the legit
    businessmen doing with the company of Vic Siman who was tagged as a
    Jueteng lord?

    • CyberPinoy

      Colateral damage ba kamo, how to know who is good and bad when they are all in the same vehicle together. In my opinion the policemen have done the right thing especially if its true that the person in the vehicle fired first.  Rules of engagement says you can fire at will if you are fired upon first.

      • malek_abdul

        I agree with you. Read between the lines of my comment and you’ll realize we have the same thoughts.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jtpenton Musta Na Mo

       tauhan ni Pnoy yan wag pakialaman…baka magalit ang palasyo.pls

  • bahaykubo1015

    Where in the world is a massacre a legitimate operation?

    Only in the Philippines I suppose!!!!

    Palala nang palala ang situation ng ating “matuwid na daan” society …..

  • speaksoftlylove

    “Legitimate operation” really? One of the officers of Army Special Forces said that, 30 minutes before the firefight Col. Monico Abang of the Army SF received a call from a Marantan requesting for an Army SF reinforcement “in full battle gear.” The officer said that as far as he recalls, this is the first time that Army SF received a request for assistance which was approved in just a matter of minutes. He said, usually the request for assistance takes days before it will be approved.

    Samakatuwid, Col. Monico Abang of the Army Special Forces ay naka Abang na bago pa man tumawag si Marantan kay Abang. Legitimate encounter your arses.

  • disqus_EWrSdjV1nv

    NOYNOY IS LIABLE. UNLESS HE IS NOT THE HEAD OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE PHILIPPINES.

    NOYNOY IS LIABLE. UNLESS HE IS NOT THE BOSS OF MAR ROXAS, DILG AND PNP.

    NOYNOY IS LIABLE. HE EXALTED POWER WITH INFLUENCE ON THE JUETENG OPERATOR (TEAM OF MURDERED SIDE).

    NOYNOY IS LIABLE. SEE THE STICKER ON THE WINDSHIELD OF THE MONTERO.

    NOYNOY IS LIABLE. HIS SUBORDINATES AT DILG DID NOT FULLY FINANCE THE OPERATION.

    NOYNOY IS LIABLE. HE IS SO FOCUSED ON BLAMING GMA, HE FORGOT THAT HE IS THE HEAD NOW AND THE SAME THING HAPPENED (MASSACRE).

    NOYNOY IS LIABLE. HE SHOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO EZSCAPE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS. OTHERWISE IT WILL REPEAT.

  • boldyak

    there was a picture released of a dead man, lying on the road, the same picture was released later but there is already a gun near his hand which was not shown on the first picture…hmmm…how true is this?

  • disqus_EWrSdjV1nv

    WATCH OUT. CHECK POINT!!! YOUR DEAD. BANG!

  • Commentator

    I bet the big time jueteng lords are laughing at all of these right now. Imagine using all government resources for an unknown guy maybe because of the pressure from Archbishop Cruz.

  • basyong

    ayan umpisa na ng cover up.susunod sasabihing sila ang unang nagpapaputok

  • spelster

    yeah right. also the father and daughter “shootout” at pasig and at ortigas also legitimate?

    • cowboys2

      Pre, anong outcome ng case na yun? Di ko na nasundan. Itong mag ama na ito hindi jueteng lord or hitman, anong naging result – baka sabihin nila legit din ito.

  • pasensyoso

    Kung nadedo sana si Supt. Marantan, legitimate pa ang shootout.

  • spelster

    all “shootouts” are legitimate. talo pa ng mga kapulisan natin navy seal team six. they can also be compared to The Expendables team of Stallone. sa lahat ng “shootout”, wla man lng nmatay na pulis. to think na lagi nila sinasabi, unang nagpapaputok yung mga kriminal. siguro bakal katawan nila no?! d sila tinatablan ng bala eh. nkakatawa pa dito, paltik lng pinaputok nung mga supposedly criminals, ratratin ba nmn ng mga M16? ang galing tlga no?!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

    legitimate massacre, that’s what it is.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OMNEL2G2GDUDZFL6P3WRMBTQX4 AprilFool

    “This [was] a legitimate operation. They were asked to assist the PNP (Philippine National Police) under Colonel (Hansel) Marantan,” lawyer Crisanto Buella, representing the military special forces, said Wednesday at the NBI.
    E bakit yung abogago, este abogado ang nagsasalita kung talagang may first hand info yung mga sundalong kasama sa checkpoint? At bakit ayaw nilang magpa-interview at bakit sila nagtatakip ng mukha kung legit yung operation.

    Ang tao kapag alam niyang nasa tama siya, hindi siya matatakot namagsalita dahil ang una niya lilinisin ay ang kanyang pangalan at ang institusyon an kanyang kinabibilangan. Kahit walang abogado, makapagsasalita siya, diba?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ME2PY37EI2SPUTDSWM3M57SVNI Leo

    Shoot, then ask later!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WZVCCWBGIIAGOV4OTB3B525ZOU John

    sana ma i-report din ang ending ng kwento na to…dahil 99% ng mga issues at balita ay mainit lang sa umpisa…kapag may bago ng balita kakalimutan na rin yung mga naunang balita or issues…tayo namang mga mamayan nag aantay lang din ng kung anong nilalabas ng media….naalala pa ba natin yung impeachment trial ni ex-pres Erap…nakalimutan na natin yun for sure dahil muntik pa nga sya nanalo last presidential election…but…what I mean is yoong mga pinag uusapang pera doon? Limpak limpak na pera mula sa jueting at lintik lintik na mga matataas na opisyal ang involved at mga anak ng jueting. What do you think this time? Why gen. Reyes commit suicide sa kasasagan ng issue ng euro generals?(kamusta na nga pala yung isyu na yon?) Hindi kaya parang bundok ang kailangang patagin ni Pres.Aquino para maisakatuparan yung tuwid na daan?

    • cowboys2

      AGREE! Mawawala na lang ang issue na ito at the end, walang nangyari….same old stories. Marami kasing involved….

  • speedstream2

    Is the outcry in the aftermath of the Atimonan incident really about the “legitimacy” of the “shootout”? Isn’t it really more about the “overkill” or “excessive use of force”, which has bearing on a judgment call by whomever was in-charge? Besides, were not the 13 dead persons clearly outnumbered, outgunned and in a disadvantaged position? Well, in the end, everybody is entitled to benefit of the doubt, hence, their day in court.

  • sharkbaitt

    seems like it was a legit operation, but there is a thing “going on” from the parties involved for quite sometime, which explains why it happen so quick that it looks like a rub out or an ambush, i’m not saying Col Marantan is clean, it looks like he uses this legit operation to eradicate competition on the underworld gambling business.

  • parefrank

    Yes, maybe assisting the PNP was legitimate, but not the killing. Putting up 3 checkpoints, one that just waved them to pass, the other one for killing and the third for to hold witnesses away, shows clear that it was a trap. If a PNP checkpoint would flag down the cars, all what would happen is that the higher ranked PNP officer would go out and identify them. Since there was no drugs etc. was transported, there was really no reason to shoot out of the car at a big and heavy armed SWAT group. Whatever they say about, it can not be true,
    Like now the originally never mentioned third car which shoot, turned and fleed. Even if true, why then kill the other people? And fleed to where? The first checkpoint was just 350 meters away and, after the cars passed, was blocked with a military truck.  And, if the reason of the travel was to invest in a gold mining business, they surely carried a big amount, the reason why the police and the soldiers have been aked to accompany, but where is it?
    Considering the circumstances and the different statements of members of the killing group, one can only conclude that it was a well concertedambush with the intention to kill. Sorry to say this.

  • cowboys2

    NPA mga tulisan daw dahil against the government at may mga illegal extortion …..PNP mas tulisan within the government at non-illegal extortion kasi may badge at naka uniform.

  • juan_tanga

    after the 1st shot, dapat ihiniwalay muna yung mga bookies, sa mga bodyguards, sa mga hired killers at sa mga drivers tapos RESET, barilan na. whew! ang ganda!

    I dont care if they are killed a million times over. marami ang hindi nakaka alam ng kalakaran ng sindikato sa quezon. kung mababawasan ang mga kawatan na eto, kahit araw araw pang shootout o rubout o ambush, go lang ng go!

  • Rod Laver

    It was a legitimate operation,’ soldiers in Atimonan shooting say;
    May nagsalita bang sundalo? Yung abogado lang ang dakdak ng dakdak a. Magsalita na kayo na wala kayong alam sa operation ni Col. Marantan. Mag-state witness na lang kayo. Tangna, baka kayo pa ang idiin ni Col. Marantan dahil mas marami kayo kesa sa mga pulis na nasa checkpoint.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GTVNMZR22PGMS55WQPIJTYB4IY Jaime

    Legitimate or not must you kill all of them in a way to silence any witnesses to the truth? 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GTVNMZR22PGMS55WQPIJTYB4IY Jaime

    You are not soldiers, you are mercenaries.

  • Jeff Clint

    It’s now more fun for the Jueteng Lords . Takot na ang PNP at AFP mag -mann ng mga checkpoints. Tuwang tuwa nito si Espino at si Pineda hindi na sila mahihirapan magdeliver ng protection money kay Rico Puno..

  • disqusted0fu

    Who are we suppose to believe? PNP says it’s a legit, Sec. Ochoa says it’s not. PNP says it was a shootout, NBI is looking at an angle of ambush. If it was legitimate, why do they have to plant guns on the crime scene? It has become hard to trust our authorities nowadays. Their words do not match their actions.



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