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Army denies ‘overkill,’ it was ‘justified’

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OVERKILL A member of the National Bureau of Investigation forensic team examines marks left by a hail of bullets that hit this SUV and another vehicle, and killed all 13 onboard, including police officers and soldiers. Most of the bullets were believed to have been fired by a police-military team stationed at a checkpoint in Atimonan, Quezon. RAFFY LERMA

Members of the Army’s Special Forces in Quezon province served as backup for policemen involved in the supposed encounter in Atimonan town after the Calabarzon regional police command sought the unit’s help in going after a group of guns-for-hire and drug lords, the military said Tuesday.

“The name of Vic Siman was not mentioned until after the encounter,” Col. Generoso Bolina, Armed Forces Southern Luzon Command (SolCom) spokesperson, told reporters in Camp Aguinaldo in a phone interview.

Bolina said the military conducted its own fact-finding investigation to determine the participation of Army soldiers led by Lt. Col. Monico Abang in the Jan. 6 incident that left Siman and 12 other people dead.

In a phone interview in Lucena City, Abang, commander of the 1st Special Forces Battalion, described the operation as a “calibrated use of force,” not an “overkill” as viewed by a National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) official. The NBI is conducting an investigation into the supposed encounter.

“It was justified because we were provoked by a group of armed aggressors who fired at us first,” Abang said.

Bolina said the police request for Army assistance was made through Supt. Ramon Balauag, head of the Quezon police intelligence unit. “He was the one who called up Colonel Abang to ask for augmentation. The 1st Battalion sent one platoon to conduct the joint operation.”

The policemen were to set up a checkpoint because the “group of drug lords … are armed with high-caliber guns,” Bolina said.

Restricted

Abang and his 24 men are now restricted to quarters at their battalion headquarters in Candelaria town and have been directed to cooperate with the NBI probe. Bolina stressed, however, that they were not relieved.

Abang said reasonable use of firepower was made to subdue the threat from armed aggressors. He insisted that after the first exchange of gun shots that lasted two minutes, the government forces had stopped firing.

“But we were fired at again so some of us resumed firing. The firing only stopped after several shouts of ceasefire were heard,” he said. The exchange of shots lasted more than 10 minutes, he added.

Supt. Hansel Marantan, deputy intelligence chief of the regional police office based in Canlubang, Laguna, called up Balauag in the morning of Jan. 6 and “had asked for help and security for a still unspecified operation on the same day somewhere in the province,” according to a police source, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The source said Balauag had informed Senior Supt. Valeriano de Leon, Quezon police chief, on the planned operation. But De Leon was still on vacation in Manila, he said.

Call for assistance

In a phone interview on Monday, Abang said Balauag called him at around 11:10 a.m. on the same day, requesting “Army assistance in the conduct of a checkpoint operation against a group of fully armed elements coming from Bicol.”

Abang said he immediately contacted Capt. Erwin Macalinao, head of the Army’s 3rd Special Forces Battalion based in Unisan town and ordered him and his men to meet him in Atimonan.

Abang said he and his 10 soldiers arrived in the town from Candelaria at around noontime aboard a military truck. Together with Macalinao and his men, they proceeded to Barangay Lumutan to join Marantan and the police force who were already setting up checkpoints in the area, he said.

The police source said Marantan conducted his briefing about the operation along the roadside. “He told us that what we’re after is the private armed group of a certain Vic Siman whom he said is also involved in gun-for-hire, illegal drugs and illegal gambling.”

Abang clarified that only 15 Army soldiers in full uniform and armed with rifles were at the encounter site. Ten others were left at the Atimonan police station at the town proper, nine kilometers away.

He said he only learned that three of those killed were policemen after the victims were identified by Scene of the Crime Operatives.

Purely police matter

“We knew nothing of the circumstances behind the police operation. It was purely a police matter. We only provided assistance and security. As a matter of fact, the Army soldiers were positioned some distance away from the checkpoint where the police were placed as frontliners,” Abang said.

He said the Army contingent left the site shortly before midnight after the police investigators finished their documentation.


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Tags: Alfredo Consemino , Atimonan 13 , Benigno Aquino , Crime , DoJ , gambling , Government , Hansel Marantan , Illegal drugs , Jueteng , Military , NBI , Police , Quezon Province , Quezon shootout , Regions , Vic Siman


  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GTVNMZR22PGMS55WQPIJTYB4IY Jaime

    Not an over kill?  I guess you’re right, You did not use grenades, tanks and rocket launchers. Abolish PMA, graduates there are nothing but armed boy scouts!

    • est

      Agree ako dyan abolished pma

  • JOSE RIZAL

    nananalo lang naman kayo sa encounter pag ambush o overwhelming ang firepower nyo at sibilyan ang kalaban nyo. lagi nga kayong talo sa npa, milf, abu sayyaf. niratrat nyo walang kalaban laban sa loob ng sasakyan. hindi overkill? anong tawag doon? overmurder siguro.

    • batangpaslit

      so, you prefer that the police and soldiers get killed in firefight, eh?
      what a desecration of the name of the national hero

  • $16638896

    nag ceasfire kasi naubusan na sila ng bala, sayang ung montero. kawawa din ung mga nasa loob.

  • $16638896

    marami tlgang dapat ipaliwanag si marantan. sana gumaling na ung gasgas este sugat nya sa paa at kamay.

  • batangsulpok

    Mukhang maraming loopholes itong operation na ito dahil bakit si Lt. Col Abang na isang Battalion Commander ay siya pa ang mag-lead sa isang platoon na puwede namang si Capt. Macalinao lang ang maging commander ng support group?  Ano ba ang connection ni Abang kay Marantan na parehong Lt. Col. ang ranggo?  Isa pa, dapat ang intelligence report ni Marantan ay kompleto, di lang sasabihin na grupo ng gun for hire para malaman kung sino talaga ang target nila?

  • ryan andres

    ugaling jologs talaga… “justified”?

    wala na nga sa lugar, mangangatwiran pa, mamimrinsipyo pa.

    Kaya di tayo umaasenso eh.

  • $20722540

    if you see people in civilians clothes manning a supposed checkpoint what will you do?  as you know the area has many “nice people around”.  police asked assistance from the special forces, why them?  atimonan police chief was a former subordinate of marantan, does abang used to work or a friend of marantan?

  • Loggnat

    The military got played by the police to provide personnel as back-up. One of the main reason why the military should never be used for local law enforcement. The military is trained to defeat and/or destroy the opposing forces/enemies of the state and not to apprehend and bring common criminals to justice. They are trained to attacked, hold strategic areas and to destroy the forces that will prevent them from accomplishing their mission. They are not trained to be law enforcement personnel who are trained to proper application of aggression and force to prevent collateral damage to the innocent civilian. In the war’s battlefront and during firefights, the military is trained to use overwhelming force instead of calibrated used of force. The military should never be used to the task of law enforcement.

    • superpilipinas

      Agree.

      They can be called for back-up on standby at the sides and used only if and only if the PNP is overwhelmed. Were they overwhelmed….13 vs.30?

      How can you prove who shot first? It should not be used as alibi.

      With more than 20 of them, they should have captured at least 3 alive and immediately turned them over to NBI.

      Without at least one alive, it’s simply a rubout. for every case that there is nobody captured alive while the police has much more people, it is a rubout.

    • batangsulpok

      Agree because the army are trained always to surprise the enemy where ambush is their best option and on this incident, once the superior officer gives the order to fire, they will just continue firing their weapons until the enemy is subdued or dead.

    • batangpaslit

      yes, the military is trained to “search and destroy” and inflict total damage against the enemy.
      but law enforcement is not left alone to the police. every law abiding citizen including soldiers must be enjoined to help carry out peace and order in this tear filled land
      marunong si Col Maratrat how to engage in firefight precluding to graze his men.
      ‘yan ang tunay na field commander, marunong maki bakbakan
      handa
      hindi sinusobo tauhan nia sa kapahamakan. hindi sia undermanned, hindi rin sia underequipped.
      marunong
      walang binatbat ang mga bodyguards moonlighting to protect the economic saboteur

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

    “It was justified because we were provoked by a group of armed aggressors who fired at us first,” Abang said.
    Abang said reasonable use of firepower was made to subdue the threat from armed aggressors. He insisted that after the first exchange of gun shots that lasted two minutes, the government forces had stopped firing.
    “But we were fired at again so some of us resumed firing. The firing only stopped after several shouts of ceasefire were heard,” he said. The exchange of shots lasted more than 10 minutes, he added.

    Malinaw naman na hindi rub out. Malamang yung unang pagpapaputok ng nasa suv ang nakatama kay Marantan. Ang hindi ko maintindihan ay kung bakit mas marami ang kumakampi sa mga nakasagupa ng pinagsamang pulis-militar gayong napakaliwanag na puro gun for hire, iligal na pasugalan, illegal drugs at jueteng ang mga gawain ng mga napatay.

    • batangpaslit

      I am with you, Melvin.
      Kung marami ang kumakampi sa mga naratrat na Jueteng Lord and guns for hire, it is simply that there are personalities who just find relish in hurling false charges
      Also, some of the bloggers in this sites are related by affinity or consanguity to the elements who were eliminated.

    • superpilipinas

      Malinaw na rubout dahil walang tinirang buhay. We are in the year 2013 and not in the 1950s.  Kahit na criminal sila and not all of them are in a shoot to kill status, dapat police should bring them to face due process. Otherwise, ibalik na lang natin ang Martial Law para happy ang mga utak pulbura! Inosente kang nadamay, sorry ka na lang kasi suspended ang due process.

      13 dead by a much bigger and high powered force in vantage position is a rubout. 

      paano mapatunayan na lahat ay kriminal kung pinatay na lahat.

    • Carlos_Iho

      paano naging kriminal ang mga yun kung kahit isa sa kanila walang standing arrest warrant o kahit kaso man lang? suspect pa lang trato sa mga yun… malinaw na kriminal yung mga pumatay.  Saan ang daang matuwid dito?  Trabaho ng pulis na pangalagaan ang kapayapaan at kaayusan alinsunod sa batas.  Kung hindi sila susunod sa batas, para saan pa ang batas at bakit pa sila naging pulis?

      Walang karapatan ang pulis na humusga sa sino man.  Trabaho nila ipatupad ang batas.

    • tagatabas

       Pinoy mentality mahilig kumampi sa under dog, anyway be happy na lang at nababawasan ang masasama sa lipunan.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6LVAN7WBZHVKDAY7A65MB4V34I Rolando

      Para malaman natin baka may nangyaring unsihan….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZKME5EXCJMYKLDSCJNQ2SVKHV4 John

    gunggong. pagamit ka sa isang polis lang na marantan na produktong third rate police school sa laguna

    • Barak_O

      bobo

      pnpa is in silang

  • superpilipinas

    with overwhelming firepower in vantage position against the 13 and the 13 were massacred, it is a rubout – ambush style.

  • batangpaslit

    i lend credence to the statment of the Army spokesperson.
    i have no sympathy to Jueteng Lords—-they are economic saboteurs

    i strongly detest when soldiers and members of the police command are collecting payment as close in bodygaurds for the economic saboteours

    they have their comeuppance when they perished in the encounter against the police reinforced by soldiers

  • koaks2

    overkill

  • pepito gwaps

    It was a Deception. Its like using a gov’t car for a family use.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYCOAGIL35OAIRH2T6QH3IZUMY Ike

    Why do you need Army Special forces in the 1st place? According to Marantan himself, since last yr, there are already solid evidence about Simans illegal activities. Then why not invite him to police precint for questioning. Or why not issue a warrant of arrest and go pick him up at his residence or in his Security Business office-you got solid evidence dont you. Siman is not in hiding for crying out loud, he is running his businness openly. Why do you need to set-up a checkpoint  just to get him? He is not a fugitive on the run. They know exactly where he lives. Even he’s movement in Camarines is monitored by the police. Why not stake out his office and arrest him when he got minimal security? And if you dont know how and when to do it when there are minimal risk to civilian casualties then you are not fit to have your badge and your gun.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6LVAN7WBZHVKDAY7A65MB4V34I Rolando

      Your observation is actually applicable in all places where there is jueteng. Kaya pag wala pela bigay gobelnol, mayol at mga pulis, rat-tat-tat-tat-tat kaagad. 

  • noyab

    Marantan show your solid evidences, the public deserves to know what kind of evidences are you holding…..it is not just enough to say that it is a legitimate operations or killing….show your evidences…..

  • rpcapinpin3

    Magagaling naman sa bakbakan ….maganda ipadala sa Mindanao…iharap sa abussayaf.

    • gerginre

      …. dapat ipadala lahat sa spratly at makita natin ang talagang tapang nila

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6LVAN7WBZHVKDAY7A65MB4V34I Rolando

      Bakit doon pa, di iharap sa mga chickqua sa Scarborrough…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5TENDBNOVQRJEKFPV76D2N4XUM Socorro

    Poor soldiers and policemen who were just following orders.dapat ang unang – unag natanggal ay center of investigation ay ang mga officers. Do  not give us terms, we do not care if that is ambush. shootout, rubout, what we want is WHO gave the go signal to  do it and WHY, sana yung totoo.   

  • gmaisthebestpresident

    ang tindi namang checkpoint nun. Lt.Col. pa ang back up ng mga pulis.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/G2UFL7BAIFFUU6TIW4FFAPTVV4 Ghost

    Sayang na naturingan kayong professional fighter, sayang na tinitraining kayo at pinapasahod ng taumbayan, kung pag npaputukan pala kayo eh bara bara na ang ganti nyo hanggang maubos sa kasuluksulukan ang biktima nyo.

    Wala pala kayong ikinaiba sa mga hoodlum na hindi marunong humawak ng baril at kapangyarihan.

    More training, please. Naaalala ko na naman yung nangyari sa quirino grandstand. Puro kapalpakan. Nakakahiya sa mundo.

    Dapat sa lahat ng checkpoint may cctv. Mura na lang ang cctv ah. Pati nga lugawan may cctv.
    .

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6LVAN7WBZHVKDAY7A65MB4V34I Rolando

      Sayang ang bala ano…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EA7TIY7PYXEU5UOXG2K5CY5F64 Eric

    E yung ginto at salapi? ….. Napartehan naman ng mahusay ang tropa?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UWISP2YXGDQ7K2SIX2GI37B2EI Darwin

    Bulok na mga sundalo to. Dun sa Basilan nyo ipakita galing nyo mga gunggong.

  • regd

    Inunahan daw sila ng putok. E siyempre may sumigaw na “FIRE”.

  • zeroko

    Sirs, lumang tugtugin na yan! Pwede ba “just leave it to the NBI investigating body.” Baka mapahiya lang kayo. “An Officer and a Gentlemen” pa naman ang tawag ninyo sa sarili ninyo. Baka lang kayo mapahiya! Alam naman nating protector kayo ng maraming syndicato. Pati mga “katutubo” pinagbabaril ninyo para sa mga amo ninyon Chinese investors sa mina. Huag na tayon nagbobolahan you. I’m just helping you save face, Sir.

    That is why I’m running as Independent Mayor Candidate in Q.C. because there is so much lies in the government. Don’t mistake me as radical. I am just defending the rights of the people to the correct information. Ang siste, disinformation ang ginagawa sa Q.C.

    Galing ako sa Q.C. Hall kahapon, araw ng sweldo. Mantakin mo, “Police State” na pala ng Q.C. Hall. Bawal kumuha ng video o letrato ng walang pahintulot sa “Intelligence ni Bistek.” He he he. Bumabaha ang mga EPAL ni Bistek sa lahat ng tarpaulin at mga official documents sa Q.C. Hall. Pati mga kalendaryo na pinamimigay, isang tonilada yata ang nakita ko. Hindi bababa sa P1,000 ang bawat kalindariong pinagawa niya. He he he.

    Kala ko ba, noong nakalipas, may directive si Boss Bistek na tangalin ang mga EPAL sa buong Q.C. Yon pala, sa Q.C. Hall, naroon lahat ang napakaraming election violation. Pati mga Q.C. traffic Officers, mga tindera ng mga food cart and stalls, mga street sweepers, mga amuyong, lahat, may larawan o initial si Bistek. H he he. Law maker-;law breaker. Ba, pera ng tax payers sa Q.C. ang ginagastos niya. Di, ba? He he he. Got you! Better prepare a credible explanation why you spent millions of pesos to promote your candidacy. I am just itching for the debate once the election period commence on the local candidate. See you…………..

    Tuwing kilos kong kumukuha ng video, pinagbabawalan ako ng mga “Intelligence Agents” mo. Next time, I will bring instead of video camera, I will bring a cell phone. Boss, Bistek, modern age na ngayon. There are many ways to “kill a cat” sabi nga nila. Kung bawal ang video camera, Di, cellphone na lang ang gagamitin ko.

    My observation is local tax payers on Mayor’s Permit ay nanggigil sa taas ng buwis. He he he. One point for me, zero for you. Pumunta rin ako sa Office of the Ombudsman kahapon, January 15, 2013 para kumuha ng “Certified copy” on my complaint on the illegal collection of Mayor’s permit which may come out soon. Billions of pesos will be return because you people allowed a mere Chief City Treasurer to dictate the Gross Income on Businesses. Mantakin mo, Memorandum from City Treasurer ang basis on the increase on rate of Business tax instead of a City Ordinance from the City Councilors? He he he. Payback time in favor of Business Establishments. Sige, singilin mo ang mga tax payer, next year and so many years to come, there will be a tax holiday. Inaantay ko lang ang decision from the Office of the Ombudsman………. See you, bosing.

    Sa Omnibus Civil Service Code, sabi, “with prudence” daw ang dapat kilos ng all goverhment officials, national, or local, elected or appointed. Eh, bakit milyones ang inaaksaya mo sa mga political ads mo? Bawal yan, sir. Hanggang leeg na ang hirap naming tax payers pupang mkaka pag negosyo sito sa Q.C., ikaw naman, winawaldas mo lang. He he.

    Kahit na ako isang pangkaraniwang kandidato na walang perang panggastos, hindi ko na kailangan mangampanya, daming galit sa pamamalakad mo. You are operating the local government of Q.C. as though everyone is a millionaire, not withstanding the fact that we are in a economic crisis. Lahat na yata ng bilihin tumataas, ngunit, walang humpay parin ang pagwawaldas mo sa pondo dito sa Q.C.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XNF67K564KNVVRLF7QL4ES75O4 Ray Anthony

      galing mo mag report….apply ka na pre!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UWISP2YXGDQ7K2SIX2GI37B2EI Darwin

      Salamat kaibigan! Anti-business nga yang mandated sales increase. Na-ondoy ka na lahat lahat, dapat may income ka pa din na ideclare?

  • PerfectPoster

    There are two sides of the story, as always. But in this case I think their use of fire power was justified. I don’t whether that was a shoot out or rub out. Those killed are lawless elements, and those who were allegedly killed or collateral damage are hanging out with lawless elements, too, makes them the same, too!

    In our world today we need a law enforcement that will be feared by these criminal groups. No one is afraid of them anymore. Just watch the news, read the newspaper. You’ve got to ask. Do they still fear anyone? No. The good thing is — we eradicated those elements, one at a time.

    This just my opinion. :-)

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6LVAN7WBZHVKDAY7A65MB4V34I Rolando

      You are correct. Dead man tells no tales! The reality is, in every place where jueteng is held, money comes around and goes around. Now if the flow of money is curtailed, you can expect that “dead man ( in this case MEN) tells no tales!!!

  • regie

    art. 11 , par 5 and 6 of the REVISED PENAL CODE not applicable here.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FRYRZ5N27HAPFR6X476KQ2OJZQ Ramoj

    Ok siguro makipag exchange gift sa mga pulis na to.

    • Markov Chain

      di ok pre dahil tingga ang ireregalo sa iyo…winner take all ang mga yan….hahahha

  • VeryDisgusted2

    A platoon led by a coronel? A platoon is supposed to be led by a sergeant or lieutenant. Abang is on money / highway robbery mission here with Bolina as a cohort. These two should be investigated and confined to barracks. If proven guilty should be dismissed and imprisoned for murder.

  • zeroko

    Bakit ako pinagbabawalan kahapon ng mga Intelligence people ni Mayor Bistek of Q.C. when I took same pictures and EPALS flooding Q.C. Hall. Lumilihis na yata ng function ng Intelligence. Pati ba pag kuha ng video at pictures, pinagbabawal ng Intelligence n Bistek. Here in below the reason for the establishment of Intelligence among local government:

    “The general welfare clause under Section 16 of
    R.A. No. 7160 states, among others, that, LGUs shall “maintain peace and order, and preserve the
    comfort and convenience of their inhabitants.”

     

    What
    are the activities covered by intelligence or confidential funds?

    Answer :  The use of intelligence
    funds shall not be limited to the following:

    1.Purchase of
    information;

    2.Payment of
    rewards;

    3.Rental and other
    incidental expenses relative to the maintenance of safe houses; and

    4.Purchase of
    supplies and ammunition provision of medical and food aid, as well as, payment
    of incentives or traveling expenses relative to the conduct of intelligence or
    confidential operation”

    I can not help it but to interpret the actions of Intelligence as part and parcel of a political machinery of the local government of Q.C. under the leadership of Bistek. There should be sanity in operating local governments. As the saying goes, “Loyal to the party ends when Loyalty to the country begins.”

    The Intelligence people should pound into their brain that prohibiting a citizen to take pictures and videos in the Q.C. Hall is outside of their jurisdictional because I am NOT A CRIMINAL. Instead, I am a concerned citizen and a tax payer. 

    Hndi yata alam ni Bistek that “No law should supersede any infringement of the rights of the people to move around of their choice” under the 1987 Constitution, Human Rights Article III, Section 4.

    Also, hindi yata alam ni Bistek ang UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS. Here in below is an excerpt of that subject matter.

    Freedom of Movement

    What is freedom of movement?
    According to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948) all people are entitled to the recognition of inherent dignity and certain inalienable rights, which are the “foundations of freedom and justice in the world.” Freedom of movement is part of the “liberty of man” (Jagerskiold) thus making it one of the most basic human rights. Article 13 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights stipulate:
    Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each State. Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and return to his country.The right to free movement, or the denial of it, within national and international borders can have profound effects upon other basic human rights also outlined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and other treaties. Without the right to leave ones home, an individual may be politically repressed, prevented from observing his/her chosen religion, prevented from enjoying the basic right to marriage or family life, or blocked from a job or an education that ultimately could enhance his/her quality of life. Thus, while free movement may seem on the surface to be a fairly minor and obvious human right, it actually is one of the most basic rights that in many nations around the world, when violated, causes numerous problems and cases of suffering.Who does the freedom of movement affect?
    This inalienable right to liberty extends to all citizens of the world. While it may seem that this right is meant to apply mainly to immigrants, refugees and asylum seekers, it also has major ramifications on internally displaced persons and additionally economic migrants or even students.He he he. Bosing, better orient your body guards alias Intelligence on their role. Huag silang magiging mga SSS katulad ni Hitler. He he he. Padaplis pa lang yan. 

  • Markov Chain

    dapat si hansel ang frontline sa scarborough….pagdating ng chinese vessel, paulanan agad ng bala…tapos barilin nya kabilang kamay at paa para masabi nya sa mga lintsik na sila ang unang nagpaputok…



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