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Director General Alan La Madrid Purisima, chief of the Philippine National Police, wants the Philippine National Police Academy (PNPA), producer of police officers, to be under the supervision of Camp Crame.

The PNPA is the police counterpart of the Philippine Military Academy (PMA) where Purisima graduated in 1981.

The Philippine Public Safety College (PPSC), and not the PNP, supervises the PNPA.

On the other hand, the PMA is directly supervised by the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP).

If the PNPA becomes a part of the PNP, its cadets will become disciplined resulting in a more efficient organization, Purisima said.

In an interview with this columnist, Purisima said the PMA and the PNPA have entirely different cultures.

* * *

At the PMA, a cadet is guided by an honor code that teaches him not  to lie nor cheat. It also enjoins him to report a fellow cadet who lies or cheat.

A cadet who is found to lie or cheat in his exam or quiz is asked by his own peers to resign. If he doesn’t, he is ostracized by the entire cadet corps.

It’s different at the PNPA where cadets practice “financial whacking,” a form of punishment where an erring junior cadet is ordered by his upperclassmen “to produce money from nothing.”

This form of hazing or punishment among PNPA cadets teaches a future officer of the PNP to steal or borrow money from fellow cadets in order to comply with orders from his superiors.

Financial whacking or hazing is apparently tolerated by the PNPA faculty.

“At the PNPA, we were taught early to be corrupt because of financial hazing, said a PNPA alumnus who is now a superintendent.

* * *

Many new police inspectors who are PNPA graduates are corrupt or abusive because of the peculiar culture at the academy.

In the late 1990s, then Director General Bobby Lastimoso dismissed eight new police inspectors who just graduated from the PNPA.

I reported the eight new officers to Lastimoso for beating up an old woman during a drinking spree.

The old woman, who owned the bar where they were having one drink too many, refused to give them more liquor because they were already  drunk and rowdy.

(Unfortunately, due to   technical mumbo-jumbo, the eight were eventually reinstated.)

* * *

Director General Purisima told me that if the police academy is out of the   PPSC and becomes part of the PNP, he would install an honest and incorruptible PNPA superintendent.

The PNPA superintendent (a position, not rank), should be a graduate of the academy, the PNP chief said.

“But I know of only three PNPA graduates who have the moral qualifications to become academy superintendent,” he said.

Wow! Out of hundreds of PNPA graduates now in the police force only three are qualified to head the academy where they graduated?

Unbelievable!

That says so much about PNPA graduates and the entire police organization in the country.

No wonder not a single PNPA graduate has become national police chief since the PNPA was founded in the 1980s.

* * *

In a few years, when the last batch of PMA graduates who joined the PNP shall have retired, the police organization will be run entirely by police academy graduates.

Of course, many PMA graduates in the police organization are also corrupt.

But their corruption pales in comparison to that of the PNPA graduates.

If something is not done now to get rid of the culture of corruption at the PNPA, the country will have a police organization that is rotten to the core.

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  • rouelcalzita

    Anyone aim to study at the PNPA & PMA is due to glare of money once they designated in their place of assignment in the PNP & AFP. They will become an unscrupulous officers who would be protector of criminals as we have seen of some scandalous w/c involved of some officers of the PNP & AFP. 
    PNP & AFP are touched by rot & decay.

  • bilango71

    It’s about time the Philippines establish some sort of a police academy in order to give continuing training and seminars to the members of the PNP.  Those  planning to join the service should be evaluated psychologically  to see if they are fit to join the service.  A high school diploma should not be enough to qualify for the service…may be a two-year degree in police education should be establish as entrance requirement to the service.

  • Garo Ungaro

    The police academy is the place for education of the future police officers. The problem is outside the academy the existing culture is so different. can you blame the new police to do what is right at the middle of a corrupt culture?…as example by the politicians/police/military top brass doing something beyond was right, ethical, and moral? You have a choice to go with the culture flow or your on your own and maybe sooner, or later out of the service?…The problem is not the police academy/not the law, not the regulations. The problem is the examples that this young police sees fresh from the academy…The WRONG is the right thing to do?…that is the reality.This Wrong culture in a society existed perpetrated by those people suppose to set the RIGHT examples…to the young and the society as a whole…Corruptions/Wrong doing prevails because its the norms and standard of the present society…You need a leader with (3) balls to make this right. If not its always a vicious cycle being repeated time and again…Until something snap in the future…The leader/Society has a BIG PROBLEM?…..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UKH7QYMAXLAMPIHBEPZ2R6VALE Mikhail

    MR TOOLFOOL, you compare the millions of corrupt money being drained out of the PNP coffers of those involved in Euro Generals, ghost purchases, procurement and repairs of PNP firearms, mobility and other equipment, etc., involving PMA graduates that serves as your milking cow in the PNP headquarters which pales in comparison to that of PNPA graduates whose peculiar culture according to you is the eight new PNPA graduates’ involvement of a bar brawl in late 90s that keeps polluting your already polluted mind, again and again. You even failed to provide relevant facts about your so called “produce money out of nothing” as form of punishment. Then you say “wow!”, that only three out of the hundreds can head the academy they graduated. You know what, you’re too sarcastic. Kilala ka naman naming na isang AC/DC journalist na nakapayroll sa Crame. 

    FYI and to the readers too, PNPA, which was only established  in 1978 as compared to the century old PMA has produced its first Regional Director (RD) a member of PNPA class ’83, only this year due to the stiffness in competition for a single position with other senior officers from other source of commissions (PMA, Direct Commision, NAPOLCOM, Lateral, Technical, etc.). 

    Most of PNPA products from class ’80-’83 have retired, whose majority were former beat patrolmen from the PC/INP days who took oath as cadets and already spent their youth in the law enforcement field unlike their PMA counterparts who mostly came straight from High School. 
    To become a PNPA Director or Superintendent, you need to have the rank of at least Police Senior Superintendent (Colonel in the AFP) and this position requires seniority in the linear list to be qualified. Hence, its either some of this PNPA pioneers were too old to hold the position or too early for his class to occupy such position. Since the present ruling class that leads the PNP command group or the chain of command is composed of classes ’81 where the present Chief, PNP belongs, classes ’82 and ’83 of either source of commissions, it shows that the next class which Gen. Purisima is eyeing for to lead the PNPA may come from either PNPA  class ’84 or above who holds the rank of PSSUPT. Unlike in the Bureau of Fire Protection and Bureau of Jail Management, where PNPA graduates are at the helm, the presence of PMA graduates who holds all the Directorial Staff positions in the PNP, which will be kept until they are dwindled down to the last class which is class ’92, do you think there’s a huge chance for the pioneering PNPA graduates to take the helm of the PNP as you are insinuating. I dont think so for now and for the remaining ten years to come. You made out of the PNPA institution as your favorite whipping boy in your column, the institution that provides public safety service (police, fire and jail) for the entire country. I hope you’re still alive when the same institution you keep on degrading and maligning produces its first Chief, PNP and probably be the first to hear his acceptance speech, “We have learned yesterday, and now we lead”. Then you say its rotten to the core? I’ll pray that you have more years to live, for you to see first hand what you were writing and talking about, Mr TOOLFOOL.       

  • southernsons

    To become a PNPA/PMA graduate is one way of getting close/access to the government coffer and it’s the only way to become a millionaire in the Philippines. Who among us doesn’t want to be a millionaire the easy way?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    There’s a professional jealousy between PMA and PNPA.  To say that PMAers are less corrupt is  inaccurate.  Those involved and accused of large scale corruptions including the Generals especially during the GMA administration were PMAers.

  • mariobig

    diba  un mga head ng   magnanakaw sa AFP comptrollers  office  panay pma mas malaki silang magnakaw ….. pare preho lang ang pma at pnpa graduates na may  magnanakaw  madaling  salita bulok ang systema na ang PMA at pnpa    may  talamak na kanser dahilsa silaw ng pera … ganyan din ang journalist nasisilaw sa pera… kaya  nga envelopmental journalism ang tawag    kung anong bayad siyan isusulat…..

  • fk

    This what happens when the government gives a student cadet who are mostly poor coming from the provinces, a four year scholarship grant in the PNPA or the PMA which will eventually make them officers in their respective fields after graduation. Most of them will lead a life opposite the life of where they came from and will resort to corruption to sustain their new lifestyle of greed for money and power of which their ancestors didn’t have or experience… Mga walang utang na loob, pina escuela na nang libre, pagkatapos pagnanakawan pa ang institution nang sambayanang pilipino… How ungratefull some of this people are…

  • http://www.pulisnapogi.blogspot.com/ Pulis Na Pogi

    ayos na ayos tulfo.  a few months back, you called purisima as somebody whose only qualification is being a member of the psg in cory’s time and an rd, ncrpo under whose time crime in manila shot up. 

    but now, he is your anti corruption and reform guru?

    ac/dc to the core!

  • 33Sambuang

    ayos ka mr tulfo a. naunsa man ka oi. ang pma cadets dili mo cheat ug maglie. after nahimo silang officials. kadaghanan sa ilaha puro corrupt og mga kawatan. kinsa ba sa mga pma grads nga nangapurdoy? puro milyonaryo ang mga hinampak. .. aber aber . mao na siguro nga nakulathan ka kay sobrang mga hambogero kamong mag igsoon. kuyapi 

  • Mamang Pulis

    If the PNPA becomes a part of the PNP, its cadets will become disciplined resulting in a more efficient organization, Purisima said.

    dong–magkano binayad sau? o sadyang brown noser #1 ka ha?

    kung anu ang puno sya ang bunga, Kay PPSC pa yan o PNP sa Crame.

    tignan mo ang mga PNP ARMM–ang going rate kung papasok ka sa pag ka pulis mula 50k to 300k

    ang madalas na kumakagat ay yun mga muslim na gusto maka pasok sa puesto sa kapulisan–yun madalas bank rolled ng mga local politico–‘ayan iho, may utang na loob ka na kay gob…’

  • Rovingmoron

    Go ahead! Unless this plan is not hatched and implemented, there will be many misconceptions about the plan. Remove it from the Philippine Public Safety College and transfer it to the PNP management. DILG Secretary Mar Roxas will listen to your proposal.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CAWLT6SE3IC36RTDVRUIDWO364 Dag Erickson

    Idol Mon… you seem to be quiet on the Antimonan, Quezon ambush huh… my main question is this, WHO RE-INSTATED GLEM DUMLAO?  WHO????????? 
        That ambushed Montero has a sticker that says – OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE PHILIPPINES. Correct me but, are they on their regular run on remitting money to a senior staff in the Malacanang Palace from ILLEGAL GAMBLING ????????   Seems like there’s a news blackout regarding that Montero with a MALACANANG sticker… The PRESS don’t even mention it. tsk, tsk, tsk,

    • Komen To

      You have a valid observation. Good point

  • http://www.facebook.com/felimon.o.rodriguez Felimon Rodriguez Jr.

    the statements here of Mr. Tulfo are all bereft of truth. calling all reporters in the media, please ask the C, PNP, PDG Purisima to confirm/deny these accusations written by Tulfo. the source of commissionship of an officer in the PNP, or be it in the AFP, shall not be seen as the sole factor that influences the outcome of his/her performance in the service. nakikita naman ang resulta ng mga trabaho ng isang tao at nakikita din kung sino ang mga involved sa corruption na sinasabi ni Tulfo since PNPA was established in 1978……based on facts, ang daming involved sa mga high profile corruptions and scams at maliwanag pa sa araw kung sino ang mga magnanakaw sa kaban ng bayan…Mr. Tulfo….maging patas kang reporter….hindi dahil adopted ka ng PMA Class ’67 eh parang binayaran ka na kung magsulat ng haka haka….

  • http://www.facebook.com/felimon.o.rodriguez Felimon Rodriguez Jr.

     the statements here of Mr. Tulfo are all bereft of truth. calling all
    reporters in the media, please ask the C, PNP, PDG Purisima to
    confirm/deny these accusations written by Tulfo. the source of
    commissionship of an officer in the PNP, or be it in the AFP, shall not
    be seen as the sole factor that influences the outcome of his/her
    performance in the service. nakikita naman ang resulta ng mga trabaho ng
    isang tao at nakikita din kung sino ang mga involved sa corruption na
    sinasabi ni Tulfo since PNPA was established in 1978……based on
    facts, ang daming involved sa mga high profile corruptions and scams at
    maliwanag pa sa araw kung sino ang mga magnanakaw sa kaban ng
    bayan…Mr. Tulfo….maging patas kang reporter….hindi dahil adopted
    ka ng PMA Class ’67 eh parang binayaran ka na kung magsulat ng haka
    haka….

  • iAmTalkingToYou

    It seems like that this TULFO guy got some serious issues against PNPA. Dude, be a responsible journalist. Set your feelings aside. Test the accuracy of information from all sources and exercise care to avoid inadvertent error.

  • archerfan

    masyado naman kayo humusga kay tulfing!  style lang naman nya ito para magpapansin at makakuha ng payola sa mga pulis.  nagpaparamdam lang yan para maambunan ng grasya. wala siguro masyado lagay galing sa mga heneral kaya bumabanat. intindihin na lang at matindi siguro needs.

  • DarkJustice

    “At the PMA, a cadet is guided by an honor code that teaches him not  to lie nor cheat. It also enjoins him to report a fellow cadet who lies or cheat.”  TAMA! Hanggang kadete lang yang code na yan,paglabas nila at tumuntong ng Colonel pataas hanggang Generals,mga PMA ang pinaka-corrupt sa PMA dahil kontrolado nila lahat ng position!  :D

    • $14141131

      Colonel? Captain is enough to start the adventure.

  • iAmTalkingToYou

    Mr. Tulfo, your such a tool. I hope that someday you won’t find yourself in a situation where no one can help you but a PNPAyer who  came from the institution that you deliberately attacked on your columns. Guess what? When that time comes I’m sure they’ll help you. Cause that’s how they are taught inside the academy. They also have an honor code that they follow. These young cadets came and joined the corps for different reasons… some due to finances, since not every Filipino household have the luxury to pay for college. And some for job security, since you are guaranteed to have a job when you graduate. But never corruption… at their tender teen age do you seriously think they thought of corrupting the government in the future? If you do, I feel sorry on how you were brought up. Maybe you thought of those grimly things yourself as a teenager, huh?
    Well, Sir, normal teenagers don’t.

    • Ernesto Ancheta

      pnpa gradweyt ka? 
      you can’t blame generalizing the foolice force bad reputation, another thing you don’t understand what you’re reading. read again, 

    • nanyo_nanyo

      ganyan talaga yan si tulfing…ang babaw ng komentaryo, nagpapa-lakas kay purisima baka nga naman ma-ambunan ng grasya…btw, hinde nakapasa sa entrance exam ng pma si mr. tulfing

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EA7TIY7PYXEU5UOXG2K5CY5F64 Eric

    Financial whacking……kaya pala ang husay gumawa ng pera tong mga pulis.
    Paglabas sa academy Kung ano anong negosyo na ang pinapasukan.

    O pera…..di naman naghihirap….kelangan Lang talagang yumaman at makalamang.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/D6UNAQVURAUZPQIEDNU45PK5GY Randel

    I may not agree with how the writer has appreciated the statement of an unknown police superintendent, who is allegedly a PNPA alumnus, and come to  a point of generalizing the entire PNPA as inept and possess an unsound culture. In the first place, everyone has his freedom to say anything about something, and everybody do it anyway. Perhaps to be more circumspect is to qualify the personalities behind their statements. It could be very unprofessional to generalize concepts just based on unfounded and incredible statements. Moreover, to note, even PMA graduates bite each other also. Evident from the history is the warring AFP officers due to alleged corruption of their high ranking officers. This describes vividly that corruption is both  present in AFP and PNP and even in other bureaucracies. And to add, who were the first mentors of the PNPA in her early formative years? They were officers from the PMA. Both institutions, the PNPA and the PMA, have the honor code. Most of the doctrines and culture of the military has been thought and passed on to police cadets. These are the considered bedrocks that initially formed the PNPA’s system. However, we could not really equate these two institutions in measuring their own experiences. PMA is much older than the PNPA, but they both have their own humble beginnings. Every institution suffers from birthing pains and crisis of all sorts, like identity, and PMA has also been a victim of these tribulations. In my lens, bureacracies exist because the society needs these institutions for the common good. If society’s condition is perfect, PMA and PNPA are not needed. But that is not the case, these schools are essential to meet the goals of common good and welfare of the netizens. Both have their own niche entirely different from the other. It would be more productive if both institutions are governed with principles of collaborations rather than on sour gripings. I believe that the PNP and AFP should be governed by officers not from only one academic institution. The AFP is for PMA graduates and the PNP for PNPA graduates. This is to strike a balance among the interests of both the institutions and the society. However, this is not the condition yet, PNP is headed by a military-trained man and biases are always present. If the PMA is more matured than the PNPA, the former should look on how to help the latter if the former considered the latter his younger brother. The attributes of an organization is defined by its top leaders, the PNP is headed by a PMAayer…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RHY2X553AEBLLNDEIG7S7O75GQ kulangot

    you are talking about discipline? Nakalimutan na ba ninyo ang mga Euro Generals, General Garcia’s contrversy, Pabaon issue, Confessed General na c Gen. Garrido, and the Kuratong Baleleng rubout? lahat yan ay pinamunuan ng mga Generals na produkto ng PMA! And for info sa mga hindi nakaka-alam pagdating sa military training pinamumunuan yan ng mga galing din sa kasundaluhan kaya nauso yang hazing dyan sa loob. Supervised lang dyan ang ginagawa ng PPSC, more on academic aspect ang PPSC! Nanliligaw na naman ng issue ang mga magagaling na PMA graduates para makopo nila ang mga ahensiya. at lahat ay pinatatakbo ng mga former PMA grads 2lad ng panahon ni GMA. Laos na ang ganyan. Hindi problema ang training, ang problema yung actual na, biglang nababago ang mga prinsipyo paglabas ng academy at makaupo sa mga juicy position. Yan ang actual na problema. Ang kanya-kanyang sistema na pinatutupad ng mga namumuno para wag lang masibak sa posisiyon. Simple lang solusyon dyan, wag ninyong ariin ang posisyon na pansamantalang pinagamit sa inyo!

  • pulis

    Isara na ang PMA..Puro magnanakaw ang mga nagtapos dyan..May subject yata silang Gangster101…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BLHTAUIFFX2RVP2RMPGY57YNZA Acute

    UY! pansinin niyo naman si BURAOT NA BAKLANG “IAMTALKINGTOYOU”, masyadong ipinagtatangol yang ACADEMY niya. andaming halimbawa ng KURAKOT NA HENERAL. WEW! responsable lang noong kadete cla, pagnakalabas na! PALAKIHAN na ng tiyan

  • Hey_Dudes

    I think no matter what one do – PNP or military establishment will never be recognize being disciplined lot.  It is like cancer it is on stage 4 and just waiting for it’s end.  I fully thought that when you have an honest leader at the top, the rest will follow suit.   We have now a president who is not known to steal money unlike that jailed woman crook but alas, the corruption still filter down the line and still prevalent.  What can one do it is already deep in our culture.

  • LabkoPinas

    If we want to change our PNPA and PMA graduates and make them morally high and honest we should make their disciplinary actions stern and without appeal. Walang Padrino, mistah o awa in case they turn into criminals. No second chance. This will then make them toe the line. Their future will be over once they do something wrong but should they be upright soldiers and policemen they should have livable salaries, scholarships for their children and pensions that they will get. When you have a lot to lose and nothing to gain by being a scalawag you will think hard before becoming one.

  • wawangpenoy

    Mga kabayan, kung gusto ninyong masiguro ang pagiging multi-milyunaryo ng mga anak ninyo, papasukin nyo sa PMA. Huwag lang silang mamamatay, pag dating ng 40, Lt. Colonel na yan. Depende sa sipsip sa politiko, by mid 40s full pledge Colonel or Brig. General na  yan. Kung magaling talagang sumipsip, by 54 to 55 Lt. General na yan at multi-milyunaryo na. Bago pa magretiro, mayamang-mayaman na ang anak ninyong PMAyer. Pagretirado na at  talagang magaling sumipsip, magiging Cabinet Secretary pa or Ambassador. Kung hindi magiging cabinet secretary o ambassador, tatakbong gobernador at lalong yayaman talaga. Kasi yung mga prinotektahang jueteng lords noong Colonel pa lang sya ang gagastos sa kampanya nya at mananakot sa mga botante.

    Walang kwenta yang mga unibersidad na kung anu-ano lang. Mangalap kayo ng statistics on what institution has produced the most millionaires, percentage wise based on number of graduates….. number one ang PMA.

    Ang pinakamasaklap pa nito, pera ng bayan ang ginagasta para pag-aralin etong mga future millionaires na ito.

    Saan ka pa.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/WOQZ4TACZMBPIQV4UA6QVB4RSA noli

      Agree

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

    they are just biding their time and as soon all the remnants of the loakan boys are gone, then they will finally have their day.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J4GY2YEB4LB44XOKS67O56D56A celso

    The current state of PNPA now is the legacy of Tingting Cojuangco, who was President of the PPSC for 8 years. Now with UNA as senatorial candidate, is there anything sensible we can expect from this ambitious woman?

    • Mamang Pulis

      at kaya piang aaralan na nila na tanggalin ang PPSC at directa sa Crame…..parang may halong ‘bawang’…nautusan ata.

  • watot

    Abolish both, then crime and corruption will drastically drop. Why?, if a crime is created by an ordinary person and caught by policemen, it will not stop there rather it will create more opportunity for another crime then corruption.

  • Mamang Pulis

    wala kayong consistency—noong kauupo pa lang ni Purisima, mga sinusulat mo yun mga tamad na pulis na ayaw mag patrolya dahil COLLEGE GRAD…

    at balak nyo kumuha ng mga high school grad lang at ilagay sa  police patrol beatNgayun–isisigaw mo naman na professionalized ang gusto nyo–‘dong’–meron bang PMA na papayag maging kabo at mag patrolya sa baseco compund ha?Yun graduate ng PNPA?o PPSC?o lateral entry?

    bulilyaso ka tulfing—

  • kontra_boohaya

    No matter how you look at it Mr. Tulfo,  the image and conduct of PNP today is a direct reflection of its leaders.  Aren’t all the dudes occupying the most influencial positions in the PNP graduates of the PMA?   Cops that make the front page of the newspapers learned  from their leaders- monkey see, monkey do. The cold reality is that that thing “I will never lie, cheat or steal nor tolerade those who do,”  aka, honor code, Mr. Tulfo, only exists within the confines of those schools you mentioned.  Kung silang lahat na masasabing cream of the crop of the society, ay tumupad sa honor code noong sila ay naging inspector o spo-ten, e di baka nakasuhan na lahat ng mga House members, govs, mayors at mga bosing bosing nila kng hindi sila nag to tolerate ng mga sinungaling, mandaraya at magnanakaw.  Now, magbanggit ka nga Mr. Tulfo ang mga kilala mong galing PMA na nag pulis na hindi saksakan ng yaman upon retirement?  Baka maibalik ang tiwala ng taongbayan sa mga taga PMA na naging PC o pulis.  In the meantime, I shall look at every cop as a direct reflection of his superior, be it eyer o from the ranks.

    O I forgot the title of this article: Disciplining the policemen: hopeless, unless the judicial system punishes swiftly, justly, and often those who break the law- regardless of their stature!

  • Komen To

    There are rumors of corrupt PMAyers, corrupt PNPAyers, corrupt NBI agents, corrupt government officials, corrupt elected officials, corrupt media people, etc. They all came from different schools, universities, colleges, academies. One common to all of them, greed for money. Unless the people in this country come up with morality change, we are not going any further as a nation. Only a united Filipino people ( free from talangka’s and swapangs) can bring this nation to greatness, again

    • white scorpion

      i TOTALLY agree.

  • AllinLawisFair

    If the allegation about “financial whacking” is true, the Philippine National Police Academy (PNPA) will most likely produce corrupt police officers because the culture of corruption will be indelibly imprinted in the minds of those who would graduate there as it has become part of their training.

    This should be investigated and those found to commit or have committed this unacceptable act should be removed from the service.

    • Komen To

      Agree. Let’s join together to effect change in the PNP

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    Do PPSC and PNPA exist because of some law? If yes, then perhaps it’s high time to revisit that law. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

      RA 6975 and Marcos era PD 1184

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

        Thanks.. cheers!

  • 123_pampanggo_farmer

    GOOD PIECE MR. TULFO.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/D6UNAQVURAUZPQIEDNU45PK5GY Randel

    I may not agree with how the writer has appreciated the statement of an unknown police superintendent, who is allegedly a PNPA alumnus, and come to a point of generalizing the entire PNPA as inept and possess an unsound culture. In the first place, everyone has his freedom to say anything about something, and everybody do it anyway. Perhaps to be more circumspect is to qualify the personalities behind their statements. It could be very unprofessional to generalize concepts just based on unfounded and incredible statements. Moreover, to note, even PMA graduates bite each other also. Evident from the history is the warring AFP officers (most from the PMA) due to alleged corruption of their high ranking officers. This describes vividly that corruption is both present in AFP and PNP and even in other bureaucracies. And to add, who were the first mentors of the PNPA in her early formative years? They were officers from the PMA. Both institutions, the PNPA and the PMA, have the honor code. Most of the doctrines and culture of the military has been taught and passed on to police cadets. These are the considered bedrocks that initially formed the PNPA’s system. However, we could not really equate these two institutions in measuring their own experiences. PMA is much older than the PNPA, but they both have their own humble beginnings. Every institution suffers from birthing pains and crisis of all sorts, like identity, and PMA has also been a victim of these tribulations. In my lens, bureacracies exist because the society needs these institutions for the common good. If society’s condition is perfect, PMA and PNPA are not needed. But that is not the case, these schools are essential to meet the goals of common good and welfare of the netizens. Both have their own niche entirely different from the other. It would be more productive if both institutions are governed with principles of collaborations rather than on sour gripings. I believe that the PNP and AFP should be governed by officers not from only one academic institution. The AFP is for PMA graduates and the PNP for PNPA graduates. This is to strike a balance among the interests of both the institutions and the society. However, this is not the condition yet, PNP is currently headed by a military-trained gentleman and by nature, biases are always predominant. If the PMA is more matured than the PNPA, the former should look on how to help the latter if the former considered the latter as a younger sibling. More often, the attributes of an organization is defined by its top leaders. (The PNP is currently headed by a PMAayer…  v)

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UJMULMVVCEGBSLFAAWMMI4PODI paul b

      Well said.  I agree with you 100%.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UJMULMVVCEGBSLFAAWMMI4PODI paul b

    This is a very biased column.  I condemn the columnist for publishing this and in effect poisoning the mind of the readers.  Tulfo based his column on a supposed statement of highly shady personalities.  Being a graduate of the PNPA myself, I have not experienced the financial wacking   that Tulfo is talking about.  Lately, I heard that the savings of the cadets have gone missing.  But this happened when the superintendent or director of the PNPA were graduates of the PMA.  I heard that the director of the PNPA was pointing at PPSC while the PPSC was pointing at the Director of the PNPA.  No investigation was made and nobody was punished.  The money, I heard was never returned.  I can present many graduates of the PNPA who were cadets then.  As to the allegation of Tulfo that only three PNPA graduates are honest, this is a brazen lie and a blatant attack to us all graduates of the PNPA.  The reason why honest PNPA graduates are never recognized is that the PMAyers who are in the position to do this are giving recognition to PNPA graduates like Marantan, who based on news reports is so corrupt.  If the PMAyers are honest as Tulfo is saying, they should have chosen honest officers for designation to various positions.  The fact that corrupt officers are designated reflects the level of honesty of those managing the organization.  The mere fact that corruption remains in the PNP indicates that top managers who are 90% PMA graduates are the opposite of what Tulfo is saying.  If they are honest dapat matagal ng maayos ang PNP.  The sad reality in the PNP is that majority of the honest commissioned officers are retiring early.  Tulfo should check the list of officers who are applying for early retirement if he wants to find honest PNPA graduates.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/D6UNAQVURAUZPQIEDNU45PK5GY Randel

      Yes sir, we share the same stand. The writer is very superficial in his analysis. He maybe exploiting his nature to acquire an ontological characterization of things hovever his arguments are not as rational as it should deem in order to vividly prove corruption of PNPA cadets. I suggest he undergoes training at PNPA first before concluding. On the other hand, let’s thank him for sometimes he provides us a chance to revisit and rethink on how really the academy has been processing and producing its alumni. By being objective, it may help in enhancing capabilities and competences of our alumni and cadets at the end of the day.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AR3F3RNQX4U3PKBI526NJI6BYM Jose

      “The fact that corrupt officers are designated reflects the level of honesty of those managing the organization.”

      Same thought of a close relative – PNPA graduate in early 80’s, bypassed several times in favor of PMA graduates of late 80’s and early 90’s.  Even in “schooling”, after acing tests and interviews he will suddenly find himself replaced in the quota.  Now he is filing for early retirement.  

      Marantan reminds me of Michael Ray Aquino both so young, never take prisoners (dead men tell no tales?) and get promotions – in successions like it could be bought from the corner sari-sari store – amid controversial cases. Marantan surely has some influential backers, who can that be?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

      bok, in a decade or so, you, your classmates and other schoolmates will be at helm of the pnp and it will be a chance for your group to prove that you are worthy of the great responsibilities given to you, to show that you are the exact opposite of the present police  leaders that came from baguio who for years had shabbily treated you. but when that time comes, will the silang boys give the same poor treatment to lateral entrants and pnco’s who worked their way up?, will you give in to temptations? will you enrich yourselves through your positions?

      few more years and we will see if you are any different from them.

    • white scorpion

      no big deal the pnp pma graduates are the same as pareho. everybody graduated honest. that is only after graduations rites. you’ll know if ACCIDENTALLY happened to have conflict with a policeman. and you’re just a very regular citizen lang.   since you’re a policeman yourself, you don’t have any problem at all. except……

    • John_Cruz

      I don’t blame majority of the honest commissioned officers retiring early, because they don’t want to become victims of “collateral damage.”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SOZE2NGSPH7YVXF7YIGQTK76WY Lemon hatch

    I salute PMA Graduates!!! lalo na kay General Carlos Garcia and mga Euro Generals… Ba mga PMA grad un sila lahat…hehehe

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AR3F3RNQX4U3PKBI526NJI6BYM Jose

      Baka nagkukumparahan ng nakurakot ang mga mistah at nagkakakantyawan kaya hayun pilit humahabol yung mga nasa PNP, he he he.  Tapos sisisihin yung mga second class na opisyal galing sa PNPA, OK ding palusot ah!

    • LEANDRO BALDEMOR JR.

      na tumbok mo. sabungero ka nga….

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/iV0XkkNontlsHWTkG2jcuz.PB64A#6b054 F alonso

      Dapat sinaksak din nila sarili nila sa 2 na SUV para mas maganda pagka picture sa kanila.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SOZE2NGSPH7YVXF7YIGQTK76WY Lemon hatch

    Sorry I failed to mention General Jacinto Ligot, sorry po talaga…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SOZE2NGSPH7YVXF7YIGQTK76WY Lemon hatch

    dapat talaga ilipat sa pnp ang pnpa para marami makapasok na bata ng mga pma generals,

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JQLEANNJ75HGVIIL4IEW2DGBMI John

    Naaawa na ako ngayon kay mr.toolfool. Sa mga pinapalabas nyang mga imbentong balita laban sa gatasan niyang pnp organization nagsasawa at nalalaman na din ng sambayanan ang kanyan racket para hindi mawalan ng trabaho. Di kasi competent para magcover ng ibang matitinong totoong balita na makakatulong sa tong bayan kaya kung anu-ano nalang kasinungalingan ang pinapublish! Bago na naman ba ang pamunuan ng pnp kaya nagpaparamdam ka na naman? how much for your news? Pity on you mr.toolfool!

  • white scorpion

    can we still teach the police DISCIPINE. excuse me but perhaps not in this generation or next. they are so rotten. I WILL honestly say they are badged HOODLUMS. it takes only a few months for a rookie to learn the trades of their seniors. after i myself was expose to the socalled policeman. it is very hard to make me believe they can still be discipline. nanghuhula lang ang mga resulta ng imbestigasyion nila. 

  • kayumanggui46

    w”will” have a p[olice force rotten to the core? rotten to the core matagal na, not “will”, “is and has been”…even with PMA as leaders and heads of police

  • basilionisisa

    having two police training academies (PMA and PNPA) will surely generate CONFLICT. It will promote DIVISION, a ‘sila’ and ‘kami’ mentality. Why not DISSOLVE the PNPA entirely? Having it supervised by Camp Aguinaldo will just be like ‘recycling’ it, will still promote the SILA/KAMI factions. Why not just have the PMA as the training ground for Policemen as well, where they will learn better combat techniques and better (moral) values. They will definitely develop better self censorship and discipline, and perhaps Patriotism.

    The revelation of the culture being perpetrated in PNPA is SHOCKING! How can hazing develop self-discipline? Yes, it teaches them to SURVIVE… but BY HOOK or BY CROOK means! Is it any wonder then why the first thing they do when they graduate and be ‘released’ to the public is to establish their own territorial ‘KOTONG’ and ‘LAGAY’ network, their own civilian cliques and conglomerates, which ultimately and definitely result to CORRUPTION and VIOLENCE.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/D6UNAQVURAUZPQIEDNU45PK5GY Randel

      The current police and military systems have different mandates. In the past, it was the the defunct Philippine Constabulary (PC), a branch of the military service and the forerunner of the PNP, that governed police system. They were called the national police at that time. Too much brutal human rights abuses were experienced under the PC regime. This made rethinking and revisiting the concepts of police and military systems and gave way to the creation of the PNPA, to train police leaders without the mentality of a military man. The 1987 Constitution created the PNP as a civilian agency and not under the military. The concept behind is that the police system is a civilian bureaucracy and is community-based while the military is purely combat and mission-oriented. Police enforces the law in order to maintain internal peace and order and attain the objective of having a just society. Military is focused on the external threats and defense objectives. Police is part of the five pillars of the criminal justice system while the military is not. In summary, police and military have different niches in our bureaucratic system though they are interdependent. police are directly involved in community policing, while the military is on the national defense. They are relatively different entities and need their own specializations.
      The way i understand your proposal, probably, in my own lens, it may cause more harm and problems if the current system of the police and military will be reverted back to the old set-up wherein the police will be under the military command and management to include training of police cadets. They may collaborate and be interdependent at most times however they have different roles to perform and identities to build-up. In a nutshell, police and military should have different orientations to strike a balance among the conflicting interests of the society and both the institutions.

      • basilionisisa

        Thanks Randel and Jose for the response.

        You somehow misunderstood what I was trying to say. Of course Police and Military are two different entities but, point is, don’t they have the same discipline: the safeguard of peace and order? just like a Heart Specialist and an Oncologist, different specializations, but same practice: the preservation of life; as well as a Criminal Lawyer and a Corporate Lawyer, different particularization, but same conduct: the defense of Law.

        PMA is just the Name of the institution they are to be TRAINED in, a School of various specializations: Policing, Military, Border Security, International Protection, etc, just as a School of Law or a College Medicine is. It doesn’t mean the Army subordinates or manages the Police when they graduate.

        Having just ONE academy or institute of training, the cadets will BOND together on a single Goal and a common Code of Behavior or Discipline, and that is our objective here, which is so crucial when they go out to the public performing different roles and carrying out different skills and specialties.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UJMULMVVCEGBSLFAAWMMI4PODI paul b

        What a flawed logic and distorted mental process.  Jose and Randel have pointed out very clearly why the police and military academies should be separate and distinct from each other.  The training of a soldier is search and destroy while the police should be to serve and protect.  It is precisely the long presence and dominance of the military orientation that  distorted the orientation of the police.  This is the reason why we have the type of Marantan in the police.  Because the training in the PNPA has been patterned after the PMA  and the PNPA has been managed and handled by so many PMA graduates.  As a graduate of the PNPA I am in favor of changing the training in the PNPA into a civilian system rather than the military system.  It is this military system that destroys the supposed community orientation and public relations of the police.  The basic military tenet also of “obey first before you complain” and “commander is always right”, etc are all preventing the police from getting closer to the people, from truly serving the people as the police should be.  And it is also making the cover-up of corruption easier.  The politicians too are corrupting the police.  Chiefs of police cannot go against the politicians because the mayor will either stop providing material and financial support to the police or have the COP relieved.  Even lowly PO1s close to politicians can blatantly go against their COPs because the politician will protect the PO1s close to them.  The result is complete disarray in the PNP.  

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AR3F3RNQX4U3PKBI526NJI6BYM Jose

      That is precisely the problem.  PNP is civilian in nature while PMA is military.  The PNP has been in the clutches of these military minded people for too long now.  These “police commanders” are trained for wars and not crime solving, they lord it over the criminology graduates and lawyers, so what would you expect?  Less investigation and police work but more on carnage, carnage, carnage.  And now you want them to have more of the same or to be precise, a complete takeover? 

      The breakup from this dysfunctional marriage that created freaks should have been made long ago.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UNAL247PID6G26BKE3UTGCHZZA mabel

      dissolve the PNPA??? do you know something against the law?? alam mo ba na nasa batas n every year ay dapat mkapag produce ang government ng police, fire and jail officers from PNPA. tpos papa dissolve mo?? PRESIDENTE KA NG PILIPINAS???

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SOZE2NGSPH7YVXF7YIGQTK76WY Lemon hatch

    Wala na sanang Trillanes and Magdalo, if AFP Generals have better moral values and better (corrupt) techniques basilionisisa..hehe

  • milespacker

    Outsource the police force. Singaporean cops seem like a good choice.

    Lol!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/D6UNAQVURAUZPQIEDNU45PK5GY Randel

      hope we have the fund, and most importantly there will be a consensus among the  filipino people to be under the administration of foreign law enforcers. Your concept  will be as good as the presence of social acceptability. 

      • milespacker

        The idea of outsourcing is preposterous of course. But what my comment suggests is that a credible, efficient and an honest police force has already been in existence in Singapore. The PNP doesn’t have to reinvent the wheel. Pnoy should have police consultants from Singapore over. Give our boys-in-blue some foreign exposure, para maging competitive and mahiya.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UJMULMVVCEGBSLFAAWMMI4PODI paul b

        over-eposed na ang mga generals natin.  Palagi sila travel ng travel kung saan saan.  ang dami nilang euro.

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/iV0XkkNontlsHWTkG2jcuz.PB64A#6b054 F alonso

      They are clean in Singapore,if they saw our politicians,they will become like them.

      • milespacker

        lol, probably.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

        Singapore has a very good reputation today.  Many have moved there to study, work, do business, retire.  Chinese action star Jet Lee moved his children to study in Singapore.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/74DX67S5U6H557SPUXS5XZ6QJI Alisto Juan

    Sa ako bay Mon, pareho lang sila, pangalan lang ang pinag-iba. .Nasa buto na yan corruption hindi noong una na nasa dugo (kung sa dugo puede natin i dialysis). . May kalawang na ang sistema kaya hindi na maalis. . Brace for yourself. .

  • Olibo

    The govt.should do the best it could to transform these two academies into Westpoint -like schools. Look at one of the graduates, Fidel Ramos. Joke only.

  • parengtony

    An honest to goodness lifestyle check of police officials starting from the top will provide a truer picture of the extent  rottenness within the PNP.

  • otepau68

    It is unfortunate that PNP is tantamount to corruption, gambling, kidnapping & other crimes. It no longer aim to be the protector of the public. It is already the abuser, the leech, the antagonist. I am so glad I don’t any police as a friend. He can stain & will be contagious.    

  • $14141131

    Am I witnessing a miracle? Tulfo’s article is featured in the commentaries on a Sunday! The layout-artist must be on meds. lol.

    BTW, if you can find a retired general either from the police or the military who is not living in a rich fashion in a mansion complete with those high-end cars and golf sets, it could be like winning in a lottery.

  • Andre Mitchell

    Malaki ang kita sa hulidap.

    Sa UP Los Banos noong 2011, napuno ang kulungan sa bayan gawa ng Intensified Hulidap Operations. Malaki na kasi ang asking price ng buong kapulisan na assigned doon – hindi bababa sa P150k sa mga na-frame up nila. Hindi lahat kaya bayaran yon – kulong na lang. 

    Dalawang taon na, puro mga nakakulong pa rin yung mga kawawang bata na peperahan nila dapat – yung mga hulidap operators mga nadismiss lang.

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/iV0XkkNontlsHWTkG2jcuz.PB64A#6b054 F alonso

    “At the PMA, a cadet is guided by an honor code that teaches him not to lie nor cheat. It also enjoins him to report a fellow cadet who lies or cheat”.
    Nung bata pa ako,ganyan din paniniwala ko.Pero sino ang promotor ng nakawan ng Military budget,sina Ligot,Garcia,Lim,Rabusa,at yung nag suicide.kumakain ng pulbura mga bata nila,sila may mansion at nag papaka sarap pamilya nila.May na hatulan sa kanila?WALA.
    Kasali lang yung thou shall not cheat sa tenets ng PMA while they are in the Academy.

    Pano di sila mag nakaw,mismo Ama at ina ng bansa nag nanakaw din.

    • Siatong

      Because Marcos corrupted the military dun nag simula ang culture of corruption

  • sonnygc

    You train them and when they graduate they are Crooks! The Puro Mga Magnanakaw is cesspool  of corrupt generals production line. The PNPA is no better.

    The problem as I see it is the lack of enforcement, but rather the coddling og wrong doers, hence they are emboldened to do their dastardly deeds at the expense of the poor tax payers of this
    blighted Republic.

    Is there hope for our land? Honestly and seriously; I DOUBT IT. 

  • kawatancila

    kahit sa saan pa ilagay ang supervision ng PNPA … walang pag babago… kc nasa sistema na ng mga magiging police ang maging corrupt… kc sila ay humahanga o they patronized the lifestyles of their  officers, malaki ang temptation na maging corrupt ka… bakit po ba.. una … na asa isip ng isang police o sinuman … maging govt officials ay ito…

    pag tumanggap ba ako ng susuhol.. malalaman ba nila? 
    pag nalaman nila .. me evidencia ba sila?
    pag nahuli ako… ako lang ba… paano si boss o mayor ..kapwa ko din corrupt… 
    d ko naman ito hinihingi .. bagkus kusa naman itong bigay… masama ba ito?
    pag nahuli ako… makukulong ba ako?
    pag nakulong ako ma sentensiyahan kaya ako..o ma abswelto?
    pag ma parusahan ako… kaya ko bang ma pa baba ang hatol .. 
    pag d ko mapa baba ang hatol… pwede pa akong mag probation?
        then finally … nabuo sa isip ng isang tao… maging corrupt na lang ako… 
        kc ang justice system natin ay may mga corrupt din…
         sample na case…
        isang kahero sa govt nag nakaw o malversed ng 80 thousand pesos … nahatulan mabilango ng 8 years…  on the other hand… another cashier nag malversed o nag nakaw ng 60 million pesos… na abswelto… kaso tumagal ng madaming taon bago siya na pawalang sala..
        so sa bayan natin pag manakaw ka ..kung kaya mong gawin lakihan muna …..kc madali kang mahuli … pag malaki ang nanakaw mo…d ka tiyak basta basta .. madakip ,, kahit ikaw asa mahjongan lang… pera pera lang… tiyak ang police na huhuli … sau ay … babalik sa staion ng police at sasabihin… d ka nya nakita o naabutan sa lugar na iyon…
        PMA kontra PNPA…. parehas lang …. mag kaiba lang ng racket… police sa jueteng o hulidap . kidnap for ransom etc… military … pag air force sa parts ng eroplano o pag transport ng illegal gamit ang air force, navy sa dagat may smuggling.. gun running  etc…… sa army.. illegal na cutting of lumber o protection sa mga illegal lumber.. pag benta ng mga armasat bala  sa rebelde…at lahat ng mga nasabing branches … me mga illegal na payroll … awol na personnel na papa sahod pa… plus mga commision sa mga supplier basta me purchase me tiyak na porsiyento… yan ang common denominator ng lahat…kahit saan na office ng govt… 

  • noyab

    abolish the PNPA……
     

  • noyab

    malamang after the investigation pinoy will point again to GMA AS THE CULPRIT….hahaha. buang na panot…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GYXVKQ7JIG2GJHZXU3L42FOA6M Pepsky

    any members of the P

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GYXVKQ7JIG2GJHZXU3L42FOA6M Pepsky

    Any member of the PNP, high ranking or whatever at that, graduated from whatever school of thought, are subject to rules and regulations promulgated by the PNP…this is across the board…if PNP leadership is resolved strongly in seeing to it that PNP laws and standard shall cover and apllied to all…do you think this kind of unwanted developments in the PNP happen?  Parang sinasabi na, diko kayang disiplinahin yan kasi hndi yan nagtapos sa ganitong school…DI BA DAPAT:  THOSE WHO CAN NOT LIVEY BY THE STANDARD SET BY THE ORGANIZATION  DESERVE NO PLACE IN THE PNP…THAT’S IT!  and that’s the kind of leadership that should exist…hindi kung anu anong panukala ang sinansabi…

  • puglit1

    Below is my letter which I emailed to the INquirer as a reply to Tulfo’s article. To the editors of this newspaper, kindly give space to my letter for publication.

    Subject: Tulfo’s Prejudice Against PNPA

    I write in reference to Mr. Tulfo’s column on January 11, 2013 with the title “Disciplining Policemen”.First and foremost, allow me to mention that I am writing on my own volition and although I am a graduate of the PNPA, my views as provided in this letter do not necessarily reflect those of my classmates, the PNPA or the alumni association whatsoever.In the article above, the writer made mention of alleged “financial whacking” of senior classmen by making their juniors “produce money from nowhere”. From, plebehood until graduation I have never encountered this phrase or anything close to it. I may admit to having seen some physical hazing while inside the academy but never anything financial, especially from the upperclassmen. On the contrary, it is the upperclassmen who are expected to treat the underclassmen by giving them food, old uniforms and anything that they might need to survive the rigors of cadetship. The same is true even when newly graduated Inspectors report to their first assignment as the senior officers go out on a limb to provide accommodations and offer advice to them even if these are unsolicited sometimes. It only shows the kind of brotherhood that the academy inculcates among its alumni.The honor code which states that “The cadets do not lie, cheat, steal or tolerate those who do” was also taught by the early trainers of PNPA. Incidentally, they were also from the PMA who in turn copied this from the US Military Academy in West Point. The last time I checked, it still is the code that PNPA cadets live by. Moreover, almost all of the past Directors and Commandants of PNPA, ever since its inception, are PMA alumni. Hence, they have been at the forefront of developing the doctrines and practices that were instilled in the police academy. If Mr. Tulfo claims that our police cadets are taught to be corrupt during training, isn’t he implying that we learned this from the PMAers? Also, if  Mr. Tulfo believes that PNPA graduates are more corrupt than PMAers, then why not castigate them since they are after all the supervisors or commanders of newly assigned PNPAers in the field? I understand that Mr. Tulfo readily glorifies PMAers as he was clever enough to apply and be accepted as an adopted member of one of its classes. But mind you Mr. Tulfo, this doesn’t give you bragging rights at all. While this may give you license to hobnob with them it really doesn’t make you one of them. If anything, this should behoove you instead to act like a real gentleman, being that you have never been an officer.  For all you know, this particular class may have reluctantly adopted you because early on in their careers they were smart enough to recognize that it was better having you by their side rather than become a future pain in their behind.  Finally, I noticed that  in your columns, whenever there are police or military issues cropping up, you are always ready to put aside the facts and instead lay the blame on the personnel or training institutions, albeit in a very rude and unprofessional manner. Pray tell me, what  sort of military training or background in these fields do you have that gave you moral ascendancy to do so? Having read your past “articles”, if you call them as such, I understand that your only claim to near military background is when, as a little kid, you tagged along with your little known father in the constabulary camps some decades ago. Let me to inform you Mr. Tulfo that having a deceased former military officer for a father doesn’t automatically make you an expert in military or police affairs. Besides, if he was really that great as you claim him to be then how come we only read about him in your biased stories and never in any history books?Just a thought. From A Humble PNPAer,CLYDE TALOSIG

    • droccu

      Ouch Mon…You should respond to this ASAP before your T3 brothers get a hold of it and challenge Mr. Clyde Talosig (I hope this is your real name) to a fist fight or worse…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

      are you related to nyor pedro?

    • Bernie Sayuco

      Very well said, Clyde. I think PMAers and PNPAers should not tolerate these irresponsible comments of this rotten mediaman.  Kawawa naman yung mga nagtatrabaho ng marangal at mabuti.

  • batangsulpok

    Ma-PMA o PNPA graduates ay mabibilang mo sa daliri ang hindi corrupt dahil pag nag-retire sila ay halos ang yayaman, may mga mansion, naglalakihan ang mga sasakyan, ang mga anak ay pinag-aral sa private schools at ang mga Misis ay panay ang biyahe sa abroad para mag-shopping na kung bubusisiin, kaya ba nila ang lifestyle na ito kumpara sa sahod na tinatanggap nila sa serbisyo?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/G2UFL7BAIFFUU6TIW4FFAPTVV4 Ghost

    This is disturbing. Kala ko dati we are talking of some bad eggs lang sa police force, ngayon it appears that the institution itself is corrupt.

    This article’s title itself is disturbing: disciplining policemen. When I was a kid I was taught to better behave and obey the law because the cops are there to enforce discipline. Baligtad pala.
    .

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KAAEZZZL7OMMZ5K4KCFETADLSM jerome

    t’s different at the PNPA where cadets practice “financial whacking,”
    a form of punishment where an erring junior cadet is ordered by his
    upperclassmen “to produce money from nothing.”
    This form of hazing or punishment among PNPA cadets teaches a
    future officer of the PNP to steal or borrow money from fellow cadets in
    order to comply with orders from his superiors.— this practice is instill to them until they become full pledge police officers..

     

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UJMULMVVCEGBSLFAAWMMI4PODI paul b

      Pare galing ka ba doon at nagsasalita ka ng ganun? Saka mali-mali ang grammar mo.  Paki-ayos lang nakakahiya.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UNAL247PID6G26BKE3UTGCHZZA mabel

      financial whacking??? sino ba ang dapat sisihin sa paglaki ng mga PNPA graduates kung bket sila nagkakaganyan? sino kaya nag turo sakanila nyan, syempre ung mga taga PMA graduates na humawak sa PNPA before

  • tukmoldinako

    Bilib ako dito kay allan Purisima at idineklara nya ang baho ng buong akademya,  ngayon alam na ng lahat ng Pilipino kaya naman pala corrupt lahat ng Police,  pero meron parin hindi pumapatol sa adhikain yan, karamihan siguro.

    Ganun paman, maging galing sa PMA ay Corrupt din , ha ha ha ha , nakakatuwa kayo.

    Nagtapos din ako ng pag aaral at ang motto namin” Honesty , Integrity and dedication to duty”.

    Ha ha ha ha, kaya hanggang ngayon, mahirap parin, lol

    • batangsulpok

      Pareho pala tayo kabayan dahil pagka-graduate sa Mapua ay napasok sa PA Engineers pero naka-10 yrs. lang sa serbisyo kasi ayaw kong maging corrupt, mahirap pa rin pero retired na dito sa U.S. kahit di kalakihan ang pension ay masaya naman, di tulad ni General Garcia na mapera nga , nakakulong naman.

      • tukmoldinako

        totoo yan kabayan, kapag ikaw ay gumawa ng pagkakamali, pagnanakaw, pangaabuso sa kapwa , panglalamang, pangungurakot , para itong isang bangungot, para itong isang multo sa buhay mo na di ka iiwanan.

        pero ang mga pulis na ito sa kanila ang pangungurakot ay isang gawaing pangkaraniwan lamang, wala silang konsensya sa mali nilang ginagawa.

        ako man ay mahirap pero maluwag ang aking kaisipan, masayang namumuhay sa simple at tahimik lang.  Narinig ko na iyan, kapag ikaw ay sundalo at di ka nagkapera , tanga ka, yan ang kanilang adhikain sa buhay. Lol Kailangan pag General kana multi milyonaire kana.

        So thats it, these PNP’s are thought to be corrupt from the start, no wonder.

  • dikoy321

    An honest PNP officer?  There are some…

    Check out the name of Maritime PNP MAJ Rocky Victoria, PMA Class 81.  He reportedly slept on TV-Ref boxes on the floor, with his kids, living from his own monhtly salary, DID his JOB beyond the call of duty!, before a corrupt military man, coddler of illegal loggers in Region V, Col Teodorico Viduya, PMA Class 71, murdered him simply because MAJ Victoria apprehended all the illegal logging shipments in Region V, with NO FEAR NOR FAVOR!

    Tulfo also insinuated that MAJ Victoria was NOT a good cop and ought to die!  Tulfo, perhaps paid by Viduya and/or his Class 71 classmates, was wrong.

    Honest officials die young because they go AGAINST the current and do the RIGHT THING, principled as they are???

    Oour RESPECT and SALUTE to MAJ Rocky Victoria!  We DO NOT FORGET your small sacrifice!

    Forward Philippines !!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

      dre, 2 decades ago na ito, so you’re saying that the parking dispute was not just by chance?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/2H2OSCPFBCYS7P5FCC3GEJ672U RickyV

        The parking dispute was not by chance. Maj Victoria was driving a PNP Jeep (Toyota Mini-cruiser) when he was gunned down. His wife was with him who recounted this story. Col Viduya was PMA Class71, he was known to most PMAers (esp Class81) because his father was a Band Leader at PMA campus when the 81s were cadets. In fact Viduya was Ninong to weddings of at least 5 Class 81 graduates. Both Victoria and Viduya were assigned to Region 5 Legaspi City same time. Victoria was PNP Maritime Unit Chief in Legaspi. Viduya was either Narcom Chief or staff of the Recom5 Chief. PMAers have very strong bond, they were just a handful in Legaspi City during that time (y93-94) for any one of them not to be known to each other.

        (If you were a PNP Colonel say having the worst of day, seeing a possibly “police Sergeant” in athletic attire driving a PNP jeep and blocking your way, what would you do? Slap him, reprimand him, demote him, dismiss him or kill him?)

        When Victoria was about to stop beside the 9-11 corner store to buy milk for his kids, the Police patrol car which was parked in front of him flashed its head lights twice.

        (Was it a signal for him to leave that space or was it a signal to Viduya confirming him as the target? )

        Victoria read the flash as a signal that he should not stop his car in that space near the corner so he did a reverse to find another space ahead but Viduya’s car was already behind him which prevented him from backing his jeep farther. Viduya alighted and stood by the driver seat.

        (why alight when Viduya could have continued driving along the middle open lane onwards? did he alight to check if it is indeed Victoria?)

        He exchanged vindictive s with Victoria. Viduya bent down to reach his gun from his car. Victoria shouted on the 2 cops standing in front of his jeep “saklolo pulis ako”, the Cops did not move. Viduya maneuvered towards the back of his car and fired 3 shots. 1 bullet hit the dashboard of the military jeep, 2 bullets hit Victoria who instantly collapsed to the side of his wife like an empty sack, all bullets fired from behind (all this happened in seconds). Viduya walked beside the Jeep back and forth wasting precious minutes on his mobile phone talking to someone when Victoria could have been rushed to the hospital. The 2 uniformed cops standing beside the patrol car parked beside a police sub-station just watched. They did not confiscate the gun not even asked Viduya why he shot the driver of the military jeep. Viduya approached the 2 cops had a short chat and left the scene and surrendered to his mistah at Camp Crame. Victoria’s wife called a taxi with the help of the tricycle drivers, carried the body and brought Victoria to hospital.

        (During this year, the PMA class71 were the “ruling class” in most branch of services including 2 senators)

        On another story couple of months before the above incident back in Legaspi, Victoria and Viduya already almost had a gun battle in broad daylight between 5 PNP Maritime men including Victoria while onboard the apprehended ship load of illegal logs against a platoon of PNP men with machine gun mounted on a 6X6 truck under Viduya’s command parked in Legaspi pier beside the log ship. Viduya was asking Victoria to stand down and release the boat. Victoria refused and called his elder brother a PNP Chief of a neighboring town in Legaspi for back-up. Rocky Victoria also called on his sister who was then anchor of a local Radio station to broadcast the ongoing rift. Victoria’s elder brother in full combat gear arrived with his own men. At the pier, the elder Victoria recognized some of the men deployed by Viduya and asked them why? They answered with hesitation and that they are just following orders. Seeing this, Viduya and his men pulled back and returned to barracks. Rocky Victoria was later accosted to Recom5 headquarters, reprimanded and was relieved, and later sent to PNPA Silang for re-training.

        After couple of years of Victoria’s death and Viduya was acquitted, one of Viduya’s men who was in the Pier incident later became a student in MBA of Victoria’s sister who then was the radio anchor. This cop admitted that Viduya was inside a dark tinted red toyota corola car beside the 6×6 truck and was in command during that time. This cop is willing to testify but the Victoria family knowing the ills of our judicial system just decided to leave the matter to God.

        Rocky Victoria up to his rank of Major, 13 years after graduation from PMA died at the age of 37, never had a house of his own. Not a car of his own. Not a motor cycle of his own. Not even a bicycle of his own. His last rented space was a 20 square meters bedroom near Makati City hall, he sleeps with his wife and 4 kids on the floor with a banig with a cartoon underneath for protection from cold cement.

        Ricky Dy

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

        thanks for giving information as to what happened during that fateful day because details of that incident were hazy then. had your brother lived, he could have made a difference especially now that most members of his class are handling sensitive and critical positions in the police and armed services and i hope all is fine with his family despite of what happened him.

    • RickyDy

       salamat dikoy321, you remember the details and thanks for not forgetting the small sacrifice. if its not too much, please identify to me via my e-mail rpvictoria08@yahoo.com i am Ricky the younger brother of Maj. Rocky Victoria.

  • delpillar

    Every year there are about 300 to 500 applicants for lateral entry sa police, with a current rank of PO1 to SPO4. These applicants are basically from poor to middle-class family yet they were college and university graduates of various disciplines who passed the prof and sub-prof civil service examinations. Some came from being school teachers for a long time before entering police force.

    However, the PNPA and PMA graduates discriminate these lateral applicants.
    They only cut the successful lateral entrants to become police lieutenants to only about 20 to 30 applicants. Then it took time for the lateral entrants policemen to become captain and to become Major and Lt Colonel. Many of the lateral entrants retired earlier than those PNPA and PMA graduates. SOme even retired at the rank of captain because they really feel the discrimination by PNPA and PMA graduates. There are more hoodlums from PNPA and PMA graduates than lateral police commanders.

    With regards to maturity and honesty, those who came from the lowest rank for several years first and was formerly professionals in different fields (other than police and military) have a tendency to become more civilized police officers than those trained to be police and military at the age of 17 to 22 in the academy (PNPA and PMA).

    Teaching and orienting 17 to 22 years old is just like molding a war freak beings because teenager up to 21 years old is the most unstable mental stage of human beings. The training during the teen-ager to 22 years old usually determine the future character of human beings.

    Lateral entrants of the PNP were already molded by the pure-civilian universities and colleges with baccalaureate degree of social and criminal sciences. They they themselves had experienced being at the bottom, being on foot-patrol,etc. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

      lateral entrants and those who went to ocs are treated as lowest kind of mammals by academy graduates. why? because filipinos who came from loakan ang silang think they’re superior than others.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FPVUYCML46QCAJM5N2O4GNID24 tony

    If graduates of the PMA really are drilled to be honest, then come no PMA graduate has ever come out to expose the notorious conversion racket where senior officers of the AFP pocket public funds.You should stop spreading the fantasy that PMA graduates are honorable and honest soldiers. THEY ARE NOT. I know because I had 5 cousins who were PMA’ers and have even reached star ranks in different branches of the AFP.

  • kalikasanipagtanggol

    “At the PMA, a cadet is guided by an honor code that teaches him not 
    to lie nor cheat. It also enjoins him to report a fellow cadet who lies
    or cheat.

    A cadet who is found to lie or cheat in his exam or quiz is asked
    by his own peers to resign. If he doesn’t, he is ostracized by the
    entire cadet corps.”

    Hehehe punchline mo ba ito sa standup comedy club mon?

  • okabato

    So that’s why a lot of PNPA graduates are corrupt, their honor code lacks one vital word, steal. A good cadet doesn’t lie, cheat or steal and that’s the PMA code of conduct. Just ask Trillanes.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/M6IIFZIX3M7UMGUQLQFCO22LZE Nate

            Originally the PNPA was formed by recruiting police officers who were already in the force, may experience na sa field at hindi galing straight sa civilian line up. The reason for this is because walang politika. Unfortunately ginawang style PMA ni dating President Ramos para may clout pa rin ang mistah system sa PNPA sakaling maubos na ang mga graduate ng PMA sa pulis may clout parin sila. Sa ibang bansa lahat dumadaan sa police academy (yan ang tawag sa basic training nila) walang napoposisyon na opisyal kaagad. 
                
                 Lahat dumadaan ang umaakyat sa posisyon galing sa baba. Yan ang tunay na police academy. Magpapaaral ka ng kadete sa PNPA pag graduate ano ang diploma (PUblic Safety) hindi nga Criminologist yan in fact kailangan pa nilang mag aral ng two years para makakuha ng criminology diploma…what a waste of time. Either buwagin ang PNPA and lahat ng basic na police dumaan sa police academy training or iretain ang PNPA at ang irecruit ay ang mga active police officers with the rank of PO3 and above with clean records and at least 3 years experience in the field.

                Maigi na yung hindi sakop ng Crame ang PNPA at baka bata bata na naman ang mangyari dyan and of course may clout na naman ang mistah system.  The police are the counter force for future coup de etat. Kung magkakamistah na naman naku takipan na naman ng baho at personal na koneksyon yan di wala na namang nagbago.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

      lingid sa marami ang mga earlier graduates ng pnpa were cops who were college grads and already in the service, after 2 years tenyente kamote na.

      may mga criminology subjects na sila sa academy kaya ok sa ched na kumuha sila ng crim licensure exam. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TNASVGXZ23VCJWV7KO7WPDIKKI George

    ““At the PNPA, we were taught early to be corrupt because of financial hazing, said a PNPA alumnus who is now a superintendent. ”

    Si kuya mon tatanga tanga. kaya nga nagpulis yan para mangurakut. serving the people is the farthest from the  mind of this evil people, aka, Mamang Pulis.

  • John Shinn III

    01/10/2013….[JUSTICE FOR DENR’S ROGELIO MIANG]……WHERE IS ROGELIO MIANG’S KILLER NAMED “MICHAEL PEREZ?”
    Zamboanga City recorded 180 murders in 2012. Of that number, according
    to a Zamboanga Today report, more than 100 were victims of
    “assassinations.” Of the 100+ “contract hits”—more than half [over 50
    assassinations] were attributed to the TOTONG PEREZ GUN-FOR-HIRE GROUP!
    The murder group’s most prominent hit was Universidad de Zamboanga
    president Archie Eustaquio, who was gunned down outside his home in Sta.
    Maria on April 1, 2012, a Sunday.
    Another victim of the group was Rogelio Miang, 50, a DENR analyst who
    was ambushed [shot and killed] as he was arriving home in Tumaga on July
    29, 2012, also a Sunday. Miang’s son, who witnessed the shooting,
    pointed to MICHAEL PEREZ in a police line-up as the killer of his
    father. The son later recanted his story for fear of his life. And
    suspect MICHAEL PEREZ was released by the police. Sources at
    the Zamboanga City Police Office [ZCPO] told ZCin2020 investigators that
    witnesses descriptions of the person who shot and killed Eustaquio four
    months earlier closely matched the description of MICHAEL PEREZ, DENR’s
    Miang’s killer. CHECK THIS SUN-STAR NEWS ITEM DATED JULY 30. 2012: http://www.sunstar.com.ph/zamboanga/local-news/2012/07/30/broad-daylight-attack-kills-environment-employee-234778 ZAMBOANGA TODAY NEWS ITEN DATED AUGUST 2, 2012: http://www.zamboangatoday.ph/index.php/top-stories/11265-suspect-in-denr-expert-murder-released.html ZAMBOANGA TIMES NEWS ITEM DATED JULY 31, 2012: http://zamboangatimes.ph/top-news/5218-alleged-gunman-in-denr-man-gunslay-surrenders.html
     

  • John Shinn III

    01/10/2013….[JUSTICE FOR DENR’S ROGELIO MIANG]……WHERE IS ROGELIO MIANG’S KILLER NAMED “MICHAEL PEREZ?”
    Zamboanga City recorded 180 murders in 2012. Of that number, according
    to a Zamboanga Today report, more than 100 were victims of
    “assassinations.” Of the 100+ “contract hits”—more than half [over 50
    assassinations] were attributed to the TOTONG PEREZ GUN-FOR-HIRE GROUP!
    The murder group’s most prominent hit was Universidad de Zamboanga
    president Archie Eustaquio, who was gunned down outside his home in Sta.
    Maria on April 1, 2012, a Sunday.
    Another victim of the group was Rogelio Miang, 50, a DENR analyst who
    was ambushed [shot and killed] as he was arriving home in Tumaga on July
    29, 2012, also a Sunday. Miang’s son, who witnessed the shooting,
    pointed to MICHAEL PEREZ in a police line-up as the killer of his
    father. The son later recanted his story for fear of his life. And
    suspect MICHAEL PEREZ was released by the police. Sources at
    the Zamboanga City Police Office [ZCPO] told ZCin2020 investigators that
    witnesses descriptions of the person who shot and killed Eustaquio four
    months earlier closely matched the description of MICHAEL PEREZ, DENR’s
    Miang’s killer.

    • tukmoldinako

      isang pagkakamali , nag recant eh wala ngang mangyayari, tapos na kahit i report mo pa ito at wala namang habla sa tao, the person will be free as a dog. Kaya sorry nalang ang mga biktima, they belong to history na lang and thats what we are we dont stand up and be brave.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

    the two academies teaches  their cadets only the right things so they will be fine future officers and gentlemen, what happens outside to the graduates, it’s none of their doing.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/LH64A6DWZ7BJJHGX2W3G53MYRI raymund

    Congrats Ramon Tulfo, i suppose he had already been into these academies before for him  to be credible enough to speak on behalf of their practices. Anyway, wrong practice should always be corrected. however, proposed corrective actions should be as as elaborate as the criticisms. otherwise, it is just an empty criticism of some “reliable” person.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UNAL247PID6G26BKE3UTGCHZZA mabel

    bket parang hugas kamay masyado ang PMA sa article na to?? sa pag kakaalam ko kc mga boss ay dba PMA graduates ang humawak sa PNPA nung mag start ang academy tumanggap ng kadete nung 1980??? sino pla dapat sisihin sa produkto ng PNPA kung may corrupt? xmpre ung mga nag handle skanila, cla immediate supervisors nila. napasa pasa lng pag tagal ng panahon. sobrang linis nmn ng PMA graduates sa article na to. mahiya hiya din nmn sa pag criticise ng ibang academy, siguraduhin munang wlang kalokohang gngwa ang PMA graduates and the PMA itself. not all graduates from both academies are corrupt. kaya wag naten igeneralize kc broad ang msg ng article na to.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UNAL247PID6G26BKE3UTGCHZZA mabel

    abolish both??? ok ka lang sir??? sino aasahan mo mag enforce ng law??? security guards? farmers? carpenters??? by the time na kailanganin mo ng tulong ng mga law enforcers wag ka tatawag ng pulis o ng kung sino man n galing sa both academies ha. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UNAL247PID6G26BKE3UTGCHZZA mabel

    try kya ni tulfo i verify kung saan academy mas maraming na dismissed dahil sa violation ng honor code?? matatawa lng xa pag nkita n mas mrami na wa washout sa PMA kc sila mismo vinaviolate nila tinuturo nila sa PNPA. tsk

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UNAL247PID6G26BKE3UTGCHZZA mabel

    hindi naman siguro lahat ganyan ang gusto. ang kitid ng utak mo sir. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ket-Mukaram-Ismael/100000133905901 Ket Mukaram Ismael

    ANO BA ANG AASAHAN NATIN SA ARTICLE NA TO?
    WALA NAMAN IBANG GINAWA YANG SI RAMON TULFO KUNDI I-CRITICIZED ANG MGA KAPULISAN!!

    HAPPY AKO DAHIL PINATIKIM KA NI RAYMART SANTIAGO NG MGA SIPA AT SUNTOK, BAGAY NGA SAYO ANG MABUGBOG…

    SINO KA PARA I-CRITICIZED ANG ISANG INSTITUSYON NA HINDI KA NAMAN NAGING ISA SA MGA BAHAGI NITO…

    YOU SHOULD REFRAIN FROM WRITING AN ARTICLE WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCES THAT SUPPORTS YOUR CONCLUSIONS….

    • jaygibi

      just dont read this articles if you dont like the content..  moron!!

  • Bernie Sayuco

    Again, another unsupported claim by Mr. Tulfo to make his articles sell.
     I remember reading one of his articles in the past that he was a
    frustrated cadet wannabe. Mr. Tulfo, do some research before criticizing.
     It only shows na puro kwentong kutsero lang ang nadidinig mo against the
    PMA and the PNPA.  In PNPA, an honor code also exists, in fact, there were
    some cadets who were dismissed barely a few months before graduation for
    violating the honor code.  For me, this is the greatest legacy na ipinasa
    ng PMA sa PNPA.  Again, palpak na naman ang research mo. Mr. Tulfo.
     Why don’t you name that “alumnus” na sinasabi mo, maybe he was
    once that dismissed cadet who made his way again into the PNP through other
    means.  The Academies only have the noble intentions to produce the best
    possible graduates, and there are some things that they cannot control, due to
    individual characteristics. There are “bad eggs” everywhere, whether
    it be in the government or private sector.  Meron ding mga bugok sa media,
    di ba?  Syanga pala, I happened to read also one of your articles dated
    January 17, 2012 regarding your “expose” on the recent Atimonan
    incident.  In that article, you cited:  

    “I’ve talked to some “players” (meaning “jueteng” financiers and
    illegal bookie joint operators), and they all told me the same thing: It was an
    ambush, a rubout.”

    Wow,
    you have illegal bookie joint operators as your informers?  You find
    credibility dealing with them?  If you think you are so clean, why don’t
    you make an expose against these “players”? 

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