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Director General Alan La Madrid Purisima, chief of the Philippine National Police, wants the Philippine National Police Academy (PNPA), producer of police officers, to be under the supervision of Camp Crame.

The PNPA is the police counterpart of the Philippine Military Academy (PMA) where Purisima graduated in 1981.

The Philippine Public Safety College (PPSC), and not the PNP, supervises the PNPA.

On the other hand, the PMA is directly supervised by the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP).

If the PNPA becomes a part of the PNP, its cadets will become disciplined resulting in a more efficient organization, Purisima said.

In an interview with this columnist, Purisima said the PMA and the PNPA have entirely different cultures.

* * *

At the PMA, a cadet is guided by an honor code that teaches him not  to lie nor cheat. It also enjoins him to report a fellow cadet who lies or cheat.

A cadet who is found to lie or cheat in his exam or quiz is asked by his own peers to resign. If he doesn’t, he is ostracized by the entire cadet corps.

It’s different at the PNPA where cadets practice “financial whacking,” a form of punishment where an erring junior cadet is ordered by his upperclassmen “to produce money from nothing.”

This form of hazing or punishment among PNPA cadets teaches a future officer of the PNP to steal or borrow money from fellow cadets in order to comply with orders from his superiors.

Financial whacking or hazing is apparently tolerated by the PNPA faculty.

“At the PNPA, we were taught early to be corrupt because of financial hazing, said a PNPA alumnus who is now a superintendent.

* * *

Many new police inspectors who are PNPA graduates are corrupt or abusive because of the peculiar culture at the academy.

In the late 1990s, then Director General Bobby Lastimoso dismissed eight new police inspectors who just graduated from the PNPA.

I reported the eight new officers to Lastimoso for beating up an old woman during a drinking spree.

The old woman, who owned the bar where they were having one drink too many, refused to give them more liquor because they were already  drunk and rowdy.

(Unfortunately, due to   technical mumbo-jumbo, the eight were eventually reinstated.)

* * *

Director General Purisima told me that if the police academy is out of the   PPSC and becomes part of the PNP, he would install an honest and incorruptible PNPA superintendent.

The PNPA superintendent (a position, not rank), should be a graduate of the academy, the PNP chief said.

“But I know of only three PNPA graduates who have the moral qualifications to become academy superintendent,” he said.

Wow! Out of hundreds of PNPA graduates now in the police force only three are qualified to head the academy where they graduated?

Unbelievable!

That says so much about PNPA graduates and the entire police organization in the country.

No wonder not a single PNPA graduate has become national police chief since the PNPA was founded in the 1980s.

* * *

In a few years, when the last batch of PMA graduates who joined the PNP shall have retired, the police organization will be run entirely by police academy graduates.

Of course, many PMA graduates in the police organization are also corrupt.

But their corruption pales in comparison to that of the PNPA graduates.

If something is not done now to get rid of the culture of corruption at the PNPA, the country will have a police organization that is rotten to the core.


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  • rouelcalzita

    Anyone aim to study at the PNPA & PMA is due to glare of money once they designated in their place of assignment in the PNP & AFP. They will become an unscrupulous officers who would be protector of criminals as we have seen of some scandalous w/c involved of some officers of the PNP & AFP. 
    PNP & AFP are touched by rot & decay.

  • bilango71

    It’s about time the Philippines establish some sort of a police academy in order to give continuing training and seminars to the members of the PNP.  Those  planning to join the service should be evaluated psychologically  to see if they are fit to join the service.  A high school diploma should not be enough to qualify for the service…may be a two-year degree in police education should be establish as entrance requirement to the service.

  • Garo Ungaro

    The police academy is the place for education of the future police officers. The problem is outside the academy the existing culture is so different. can you blame the new police to do what is right at the middle of a corrupt culture?…as example by the politicians/police/military top brass doing something beyond was right, ethical, and moral? You have a choice to go with the culture flow or your on your own and maybe sooner, or later out of the service?…The problem is not the police academy/not the law, not the regulations. The problem is the examples that this young police sees fresh from the academy…The WRONG is the right thing to do?…that is the reality.This Wrong culture in a society existed perpetrated by those people suppose to set the RIGHT examples…to the young and the society as a whole…Corruptions/Wrong doing prevails because its the norms and standard of the present society…You need a leader with (3) balls to make this right. If not its always a vicious cycle being repeated time and again…Until something snap in the future…The leader/Society has a BIG PROBLEM?…..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UKH7QYMAXLAMPIHBEPZ2R6VALE Mikhail

    MR TOOLFOOL, you compare the millions of corrupt money being drained out of the PNP coffers of those involved in Euro Generals, ghost purchases, procurement and repairs of PNP firearms, mobility and other equipment, etc., involving PMA graduates that serves as your milking cow in the PNP headquarters which pales in comparison to that of PNPA graduates whose peculiar culture according to you is the eight new PNPA graduates’ involvement of a bar brawl in late 90s that keeps polluting your already polluted mind, again and again. You even failed to provide relevant facts about your so called “produce money out of nothing” as form of punishment. Then you say “wow!”, that only three out of the hundreds can head the academy they graduated. You know what, you’re too sarcastic. Kilala ka naman naming na isang AC/DC journalist na nakapayroll sa Crame. 

    FYI and to the readers too, PNPA, which was only established  in 1978 as compared to the century old PMA has produced its first Regional Director (RD) a member of PNPA class ’83, only this year due to the stiffness in competition for a single position with other senior officers from other source of commissions (PMA, Direct Commision, NAPOLCOM, Lateral, Technical, etc.). 

    Most of PNPA products from class ’80-’83 have retired, whose majority were former beat patrolmen from the PC/INP days who took oath as cadets and already spent their youth in the law enforcement field unlike their PMA counterparts who mostly came straight from High School. 
    To become a PNPA Director or Superintendent, you need to have the rank of at least Police Senior Superintendent (Colonel in the AFP) and this position requires seniority in the linear list to be qualified. Hence, its either some of this PNPA pioneers were too old to hold the position or too early for his class to occupy such position. Since the present ruling class that leads the PNP command group or the chain of command is composed of classes ’81 where the present Chief, PNP belongs, classes ’82 and ’83 of either source of commissions, it shows that the next class which Gen. Purisima is eyeing for to lead the PNPA may come from either PNPA  class ’84 or above who holds the rank of PSSUPT. Unlike in the Bureau of Fire Protection and Bureau of Jail Management, where PNPA graduates are at the helm, the presence of PMA graduates who holds all the Directorial Staff positions in the PNP, which will be kept until they are dwindled down to the last class which is class ’92, do you think there’s a huge chance for the pioneering PNPA graduates to take the helm of the PNP as you are insinuating. I dont think so for now and for the remaining ten years to come. You made out of the PNPA institution as your favorite whipping boy in your column, the institution that provides public safety service (police, fire and jail) for the entire country. I hope you’re still alive when the same institution you keep on degrading and maligning produces its first Chief, PNP and probably be the first to hear his acceptance speech, “We have learned yesterday, and now we lead”. Then you say its rotten to the core? I’ll pray that you have more years to live, for you to see first hand what you were writing and talking about, Mr TOOLFOOL.       

  • southernsons

    To become a PNPA/PMA graduate is one way of getting close/access to the government coffer and it’s the only way to become a millionaire in the Philippines. Who among us doesn’t want to be a millionaire the easy way?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    There’s a professional jealousy between PMA and PNPA.  To say that PMAers are less corrupt is  inaccurate.  Those involved and accused of large scale corruptions including the Generals especially during the GMA administration were PMAers.

  • mariobig

    diba  un mga head ng   magnanakaw sa AFP comptrollers  office  panay pma mas malaki silang magnakaw ….. pare preho lang ang pma at pnpa graduates na may  magnanakaw  madaling  salita bulok ang systema na ang PMA at pnpa    may  talamak na kanser dahilsa silaw ng pera … ganyan din ang journalist nasisilaw sa pera… kaya  nga envelopmental journalism ang tawag    kung anong bayad siyan isusulat…..

  • fk

    This what happens when the government gives a student cadet who are mostly poor coming from the provinces, a four year scholarship grant in the PNPA or the PMA which will eventually make them officers in their respective fields after graduation. Most of them will lead a life opposite the life of where they came from and will resort to corruption to sustain their new lifestyle of greed for money and power of which their ancestors didn’t have or experience… Mga walang utang na loob, pina escuela na nang libre, pagkatapos pagnanakawan pa ang institution nang sambayanang pilipino… How ungratefull some of this people are…

  • http://www.pulisnapogi.blogspot.com/ Pulis Na Pogi

    ayos na ayos tulfo.  a few months back, you called purisima as somebody whose only qualification is being a member of the psg in cory’s time and an rd, ncrpo under whose time crime in manila shot up. 

    but now, he is your anti corruption and reform guru?

    ac/dc to the core!

  • 33Sambuang

    ayos ka mr tulfo a. naunsa man ka oi. ang pma cadets dili mo cheat ug maglie. after nahimo silang officials. kadaghanan sa ilaha puro corrupt og mga kawatan. kinsa ba sa mga pma grads nga nangapurdoy? puro milyonaryo ang mga hinampak. .. aber aber . mao na siguro nga nakulathan ka kay sobrang mga hambogero kamong mag igsoon. kuyapi 

  • Mamang Pulis

    If the PNPA becomes a part of the PNP, its cadets will become disciplined resulting in a more efficient organization, Purisima said.

    dong–magkano binayad sau? o sadyang brown noser #1 ka ha?

    kung anu ang puno sya ang bunga, Kay PPSC pa yan o PNP sa Crame.

    tignan mo ang mga PNP ARMM–ang going rate kung papasok ka sa pag ka pulis mula 50k to 300k

    ang madalas na kumakagat ay yun mga muslim na gusto maka pasok sa puesto sa kapulisan–yun madalas bank rolled ng mga local politico–’ayan iho, may utang na loob ka na kay gob…’

  • Rovingmoron

    Go ahead! Unless this plan is not hatched and implemented, there will be many misconceptions about the plan. Remove it from the Philippine Public Safety College and transfer it to the PNP management. DILG Secretary Mar Roxas will listen to your proposal.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CAWLT6SE3IC36RTDVRUIDWO364 Dag Erickson

    Idol Mon… you seem to be quiet on the Antimonan, Quezon ambush huh… my main question is this, WHO RE-INSTATED GLEM DUMLAO?  WHO????????? 
        That ambushed Montero has a sticker that says – OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE PHILIPPINES. Correct me but, are they on their regular run on remitting money to a senior staff in the Malacanang Palace from ILLEGAL GAMBLING ????????   Seems like there’s a news blackout regarding that Montero with a MALACANANG sticker… The PRESS don’t even mention it. tsk, tsk, tsk,

    • Komen To

      You have a valid observation. Good point

  • http://www.facebook.com/felimon.o.rodriguez Felimon Rodriguez Jr.

    the statements here of Mr. Tulfo are all bereft of truth. calling all reporters in the media, please ask the C, PNP, PDG Purisima to confirm/deny these accusations written by Tulfo. the source of commissionship of an officer in the PNP, or be it in the AFP, shall not be seen as the sole factor that influences the outcome of his/her performance in the service. nakikita naman ang resulta ng mga trabaho ng isang tao at nakikita din kung sino ang mga involved sa corruption na sinasabi ni Tulfo since PNPA was established in 1978……based on facts, ang daming involved sa mga high profile corruptions and scams at maliwanag pa sa araw kung sino ang mga magnanakaw sa kaban ng bayan…Mr. Tulfo….maging patas kang reporter….hindi dahil adopted ka ng PMA Class ’67 eh parang binayaran ka na kung magsulat ng haka haka….

  • http://www.facebook.com/felimon.o.rodriguez Felimon Rodriguez Jr.

     the statements here of Mr. Tulfo are all bereft of truth. calling all
    reporters in the media, please ask the C, PNP, PDG Purisima to
    confirm/deny these accusations written by Tulfo. the source of
    commissionship of an officer in the PNP, or be it in the AFP, shall not
    be seen as the sole factor that influences the outcome of his/her
    performance in the service. nakikita naman ang resulta ng mga trabaho ng
    isang tao at nakikita din kung sino ang mga involved sa corruption na
    sinasabi ni Tulfo since PNPA was established in 1978……based on
    facts, ang daming involved sa mga high profile corruptions and scams at
    maliwanag pa sa araw kung sino ang mga magnanakaw sa kaban ng
    bayan…Mr. Tulfo….maging patas kang reporter….hindi dahil adopted
    ka ng PMA Class ’67 eh parang binayaran ka na kung magsulat ng haka
    haka….

  • iAmTalkingToYou

    It seems like that this TULFO guy got some serious issues against PNPA. Dude, be a responsible journalist. Set your feelings aside. Test the accuracy of information from all sources and exercise care to avoid inadvertent error.

  • archerfan

    masyado naman kayo humusga kay tulfing!  style lang naman nya ito para magpapansin at makakuha ng payola sa mga pulis.  nagpaparamdam lang yan para maambunan ng grasya. wala siguro masyado lagay galing sa mga heneral kaya bumabanat. intindihin na lang at matindi siguro needs.

  • DarkJustice

    “At the PMA, a cadet is guided by an honor code that teaches him not  to lie nor cheat. It also enjoins him to report a fellow cadet who lies or cheat.”  TAMA! Hanggang kadete lang yang code na yan,paglabas nila at tumuntong ng Colonel pataas hanggang Generals,mga PMA ang pinaka-corrupt sa PMA dahil kontrolado nila lahat ng position!  :D

    • $14141131

      Colonel? Captain is enough to start the adventure.

  • iAmTalkingToYou

    Mr. Tulfo, your such a tool. I hope that someday you won’t find yourself in a situation where no one can help you but a PNPAyer who  came from the institution that you deliberately attacked on your columns. Guess what? When that time comes I’m sure they’ll help you. Cause that’s how they are taught inside the academy. They also have an honor code that they follow. These young cadets came and joined the corps for different reasons… some due to finances, since not every Filipino household have the luxury to pay for college. And some for job security, since you are guaranteed to have a job when you graduate. But never corruption… at their tender teen age do you seriously think they thought of corrupting the government in the future? If you do, I feel sorry on how you were brought up. Maybe you thought of those grimly things yourself as a teenager, huh?
    Well, Sir, normal teenagers don’t.

    • Ernesto Ancheta

      pnpa gradweyt ka? 
      you can’t blame generalizing the foolice force bad reputation, another thing you don’t understand what you’re reading. read again, 

    • nanyo_nanyo

      ganyan talaga yan si tulfing…ang babaw ng komentaryo, nagpapa-lakas kay purisima baka nga naman ma-ambunan ng grasya…btw, hinde nakapasa sa entrance exam ng pma si mr. tulfing

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EA7TIY7PYXEU5UOXG2K5CY5F64 Eric

    Financial whacking……kaya pala ang husay gumawa ng pera tong mga pulis.
    Paglabas sa academy Kung ano anong negosyo na ang pinapasukan.

    O pera…..di naman naghihirap….kelangan Lang talagang yumaman at makalamang.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/D6UNAQVURAUZPQIEDNU45PK5GY Randel

    I may not agree with how the writer has appreciated the statement of an unknown police superintendent, who is allegedly a PNPA alumnus, and come to  a point of generalizing the entire PNPA as inept and possess an unsound culture. In the first place, everyone has his freedom to say anything about something, and everybody do it anyway. Perhaps to be more circumspect is to qualify the personalities behind their statements. It could be very unprofessional to generalize concepts just based on unfounded and incredible statements. Moreover, to note, even PMA graduates bite each other also. Evident from the history is the warring AFP officers due to alleged corruption of their high ranking officers. This describes vividly that corruption is both  present in AFP and PNP and even in other bureaucracies. And to add, who were the first mentors of the PNPA in her early formative years? They were officers from the PMA. Both institutions, the PNPA and the PMA, have the honor code. Most of the doctrines and culture of the military has been thought and passed on to police cadets. These are the considered bedrocks that initially formed the PNPA’s system. However, we could not really equate these two institutions in measuring their own experiences. PMA is much older than the PNPA, but they both have their own humble beginnings. Every institution suffers from birthing pains and crisis of all sorts, like identity, and PMA has also been a victim of these tribulations. In my lens, bureacracies exist because the society needs these institutions for the common good. If society’s condition is perfect, PMA and PNPA are not needed. But that is not the case, these schools are essential to meet the goals of common good and welfare of the netizens. Both have their own niche entirely different from the other. It would be more productive if both institutions are governed with principles of collaborations rather than on sour gripings. I believe that the PNP and AFP should be governed by officers not from only one academic institution. The AFP is for PMA graduates and the PNP for PNPA graduates. This is to strike a balance among the interests of both the institutions and the society. However, this is not the condition yet, PNP is headed by a military-trained man and biases are always present. If the PMA is more matured than the PNPA, the former should look on how to help the latter if the former considered the latter his younger brother. The attributes of an organization is defined by its top leaders, the PNP is headed by a PMAayer…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RHY2X553AEBLLNDEIG7S7O75GQ kulangot

    you are talking about discipline? Nakalimutan na ba ninyo ang mga Euro Generals, General Garcia’s contrversy, Pabaon issue, Confessed General na c Gen. Garrido, and the Kuratong Baleleng rubout? lahat yan ay pinamunuan ng mga Generals na produkto ng PMA! And for info sa mga hindi nakaka-alam pagdating sa military training pinamumunuan yan ng mga galing din sa kasundaluhan kaya nauso yang hazing dyan sa loob. Supervised lang dyan ang ginagawa ng PPSC, more on academic aspect ang PPSC! Nanliligaw na naman ng issue ang mga magagaling na PMA graduates para makopo nila ang mga ahensiya. at lahat ay pinatatakbo ng mga former PMA grads 2lad ng panahon ni GMA. Laos na ang ganyan. Hindi problema ang training, ang problema yung actual na, biglang nababago ang mga prinsipyo paglabas ng academy at makaupo sa mga juicy position. Yan ang actual na problema. Ang kanya-kanyang sistema na pinatutupad ng mga namumuno para wag lang masibak sa posisiyon. Simple lang solusyon dyan, wag ninyong ariin ang posisyon na pansamantalang pinagamit sa inyo!

  • pulis

    Isara na ang PMA..Puro magnanakaw ang mga nagtapos dyan..May subject yata silang Gangster101…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BLHTAUIFFX2RVP2RMPGY57YNZA Acute

    UY! pansinin niyo naman si BURAOT NA BAKLANG “IAMTALKINGTOYOU”, masyadong ipinagtatangol yang ACADEMY niya. andaming halimbawa ng KURAKOT NA HENERAL. WEW! responsable lang noong kadete cla, pagnakalabas na! PALAKIHAN na ng tiyan

  • Hey_Dudes

    I think no matter what one do – PNP or military establishment will never be recognize being disciplined lot.  It is like cancer it is on stage 4 and just waiting for it’s end.  I fully thought that when you have an honest leader at the top, the rest will follow suit.   We have now a president who is not known to steal money unlike that jailed woman crook but alas, the corruption still filter down the line and still prevalent.  What can one do it is already deep in our culture.

  • LabkoPinas

    If we want to change our PNPA and PMA graduates and make them morally high and honest we should make their disciplinary actions stern and without appeal. Walang Padrino, mistah o awa in case they turn into criminals. No second chance. This will then make them toe the line. Their future will be over once they do something wrong but should they be upright soldiers and policemen they should have livable salaries, scholarships for their children and pensions that they will get. When you have a lot to lose and nothing to gain by being a scalawag you will think hard before becoming one.

  • wawangpenoy

    Mga kabayan, kung gusto ninyong masiguro ang pagiging multi-milyunaryo ng mga anak ninyo, papasukin nyo sa PMA. Huwag lang silang mamamatay, pag dating ng 40, Lt. Colonel na yan. Depende sa sipsip sa politiko, by mid 40s full pledge Colonel or Brig. General na  yan. Kung magaling talagang sumipsip, by 54 to 55 Lt. General na yan at multi-milyunaryo na. Bago pa magretiro, mayamang-mayaman na ang anak ninyong PMAyer. Pagretirado na at  talagang magaling sumipsip, magiging Cabinet Secretary pa or Ambassador. Kung hindi magiging cabinet secretary o ambassador, tatakbong gobernador at lalong yayaman talaga. Kasi yung mga prinotektahang jueteng lords noong Colonel pa lang sya ang gagastos sa kampanya nya at mananakot sa mga botante.

    Walang kwenta yang mga unibersidad na kung anu-ano lang. Mangalap kayo ng statistics on what institution has produced the most millionaires, percentage wise based on number of graduates….. number one ang PMA.

    Ang pinakamasaklap pa nito, pera ng bayan ang ginagasta para pag-aralin etong mga future millionaires na ito.

    Saan ka pa.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/WOQZ4TACZMBPIQV4UA6QVB4RSA noli

      Agree

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

    they are just biding their time and as soon all the remnants of the loakan boys are gone, then they will finally have their day.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J4GY2YEB4LB44XOKS67O56D56A celso

    The current state of PNPA now is the legacy of Tingting Cojuangco, who was President of the PPSC for 8 years. Now with UNA as senatorial candidate, is there anything sensible we can expect from this ambitious woman?

    • Mamang Pulis

      at kaya piang aaralan na nila na tanggalin ang PPSC at directa sa Crame…..parang may halong ‘bawang’…nautusan ata.

  • watot

    Abolish both, then crime and corruption will drastically drop. Why?, if a crime is created by an ordinary person and caught by policemen, it will not stop there rather it will create more opportunity for another crime then corruption.

  • Mamang Pulis

    wala kayong consistency—noong kauupo pa lang ni Purisima, mga sinusulat mo yun mga tamad na pulis na ayaw mag patrolya dahil COLLEGE GRAD…

    at balak nyo kumuha ng mga high school grad lang at ilagay sa  police patrol beatNgayun–isisigaw mo naman na professionalized ang gusto nyo–’dong’–meron bang PMA na papayag maging kabo at mag patrolya sa baseco compund ha?Yun graduate ng PNPA?o PPSC?o lateral entry?

    bulilyaso ka tulfing—

  • kontra_boohaya

    No matter how you look at it Mr. Tulfo,  the image and conduct of PNP today is a direct reflection of its leaders.  Aren’t all the dudes occupying the most influencial positions in the PNP graduates of the PMA?   Cops that make the front page of the newspapers learned  from their leaders- monkey see, monkey do. The cold reality is that that thing “I will never lie, cheat or steal nor tolerade those who do,”  aka, honor code, Mr. Tulfo, only exists within the confines of those schools you mentioned.  Kung silang lahat na masasabing cream of the crop of the society, ay tumupad sa honor code noong sila ay naging inspector o spo-ten, e di baka nakasuhan na lahat ng mga House members, govs, mayors at mga bosing bosing nila kng hindi sila nag to tolerate ng mga sinungaling, mandaraya at magnanakaw.  Now, magbanggit ka nga Mr. Tulfo ang mga kilala mong galing PMA na nag pulis na hindi saksakan ng yaman upon retirement?  Baka maibalik ang tiwala ng taongbayan sa mga taga PMA na naging PC o pulis.  In the meantime, I shall look at every cop as a direct reflection of his superior, be it eyer o from the ranks.

    O I forgot the title of this article: Disciplining the policemen: hopeless, unless the judicial system punishes swiftly, justly, and often those who break the law- regardless of their stature!

  • Komen To

    There are rumors of corrupt PMAyers, corrupt PNPAyers, corrupt NBI agents, corrupt government officials, corrupt elected officials, corrupt media people, etc. They all came from different schools, universities, colleges, academies. One common to all of them, greed for money. Unless the people in this country come up with morality change, we are not going any further as a nation. Only a united Filipino people ( free from talangka’s and swapangs) can bring this nation to greatness, again

    • white scorpion

      i TOTALLY agree.

  • AllinLawisFair

    If the allegation about “financial whacking” is true, the Philippine National Police Academy (PNPA) will most likely produce corrupt police officers because the culture of corruption will be indelibly imprinted in the minds of those who would graduate there as it has become part of their training.

    This should be investigated and those found to commit or have committed this unacceptable act should be removed from the service.

    • Komen To

      Agree. Let’s join together to effect change in the PNP

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    Do PPSC and PNPA exist because of some law? If yes, then perhaps it’s high time to revisit that law. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

      RA 6975 and Marcos era PD 1184

  • 123_pampanggo_farmer

    GOOD PIECE MR. TULFO.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/D6UNAQVURAUZPQIEDNU45PK5GY Randel

    I may not agree with how the writer has appreciated the statement of an unknown police superintendent, who is allegedly a PNPA alumnus, and come to a point of generalizing the entire PNPA as inept and possess an unsound culture. In the first place, everyone has his freedom to say anything about something, and everybody do it anyway. Perhaps to be more circumspect is to qualify the personalities behind their statements. It could be very unprofessional to generalize concepts just based on unfounded and incredible statements. Moreover, to note, even PMA graduates bite each other also. Evident from the history is the warring AFP officers (most from the PMA) due to alleged corruption of their high ranking officers. This describes vividly that corruption is both present in AFP and PNP and even in other bureaucracies. And to add, who were the first mentors of the PNPA in her early formative years? They were officers from the PMA. Both institutions, the PNPA and the PMA, have the honor code. Most of the doctrines and culture of the military has been taught and passed on to police cadets. These are the considered bedrocks that initially formed the PNPA’s system. However, we could not really equate these two institutions in measuring their own experiences. PMA is much older than the PNPA, but they both have their own humble beginnings. Every institution suffers from birthing pains and crisis of all sorts, like identity, and PMA has also been a victim of these tribulations. In my lens, bureacracies exist because the society needs these institutions for the common good. If society’s condition is perfect, PMA and PNPA are not needed. But that is not the case, these schools are essential to meet the goals of common good and welfare of the netizens. Both have their own niche entirely different from the other. It would be more productive if both institutions are governed with principles of collaborations rather than on sour gripings. I believe that the PNP and AFP should be governed by officers not from only one academic institution. The AFP is for PMA graduates and the PNP for PNPA graduates. This is to strike a balance among the interests of both the institutions and the society. However, this is not the condition yet, PNP is currently headed by a military-trained gentleman and by nature, biases are always predominant. If the PMA is more matured than the PNPA, the former should look on how to help the latter if the former considered the latter as a younger sibling. More often, the attributes of an organization is defined by its top leaders. (The PNP is currently headed by a PMAayer…  v)

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UJMULMVVCEGBSLFAAWMMI4PODI paul b

      Well said.  I agree with you 100%.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UJMULMVVCEGBSLFAAWMMI4PODI paul b

    This is a very biased column.  I condemn the columnist for publishing this and in effect poisoning the mind of the readers.  Tulfo based his column on a supposed statement of highly shady personalities.  Being a graduate of the PNPA myself, I have not experienced the financial wacking   that Tulfo is talking about.  Lately, I heard that the savings of the cadets have gone missing.  But this happened when the superintendent or director of the PNPA were graduates of the PMA.  I heard that the director of the PNPA was pointing at PPSC while the PPSC was pointing at the Director of the PNPA.  No investigation was made and nobody was punished.  The money, I heard was never returned.  I can present many graduates of the PNPA who were cadets then.  As to the allegation of Tulfo that only three PNPA graduates are honest, this is a brazen lie and a blatant attack to us all graduates of the PNPA.  The reason why honest PNPA graduates are never recognized is that the PMAyers who are in the position to do this are giving recognition to PNPA graduates like Marantan, who based on news reports is so corrupt.  If the PMAyers are honest as Tulfo is saying, they should have chosen honest officers for designation to various positions.  The fact that corrupt officers are designated reflects the level of honesty of those managing the organization.  The mere fact that corruption remains in the PNP indicates that top managers who are 90% PMA graduates are the opposite of what Tulfo is saying.  If they are honest dapat matagal ng maayos ang PNP.  The sad reality in the PNP is that majority of the honest commissioned officers are retiring early.  Tulfo should check the list of officers who are applying for early retirement if he wants to find honest PNPA graduates.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/D6UNAQVURAUZPQIEDNU45PK5GY Randel

      Yes sir, we share the same stand. The writer is very superficial in his analysis. He maybe exploiting his nature to acquire an ontological characterization of things hovever his arguments are not as rational as it should deem in order to vividly prove corruption of PNPA cadets. I suggest he undergoes training at PNPA first before concluding. On the other hand, let’s thank him for sometimes he provides us a chance to revisit and rethink on how really the academy has been processing and producing its alumni. By being objective, it may help in enhancing capabilities and competences of our alumni and cadets at the end of the day.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AR3F3RNQX4U3PKBI526NJI6BYM Jose

      “The fact that corrupt officers are designated reflects the level of honesty of those managing the organization.”

      Same thought of a close relative – PNPA graduate in early 80′s, bypassed several times in favor of PMA graduates of late 80′s and early 90′s.  Even in “schooling”, after acing tests and interviews he will suddenly find himself replaced in the quota.  Now he is filing for early retirement.  

      Marantan reminds me of Michael Ray Aquino both so young, never take prisoners (dead men tell no tales?) and get promotions – in successions like it could be bought from the corner sari-sari store – amid controversial cases. Marantan surely has some influential backers, who can that be?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

      bok, in a decade or so, you, your classmates and other schoolmates will be at helm of the pnp and it will be a chance for your group to prove that you are worthy of the great responsibilities given to you, to show that you are the exact opposite of the present police  leaders that came from baguio who for years had shabbily treated you. but when that time comes, will the silang boys give the same poor treatment to lateral entrants and pnco’s who worked their way up?, will you give in to temptations? will you enrich yourselves through your positions?

      few more years and we will see if you are any different from them.

    • white scorpion

      no big deal the pnp pma graduates are the same as pareho. everybody graduated honest. that is only after graduations rites. you’ll know if ACCIDENTALLY happened to have conflict with a policeman. and you’re just a very regular citizen lang.   since you’re a policeman yourself, you don’t have any problem at all. except……

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SOZE2NGSPH7YVXF7YIGQTK76WY Lemon hatch

    I salute PMA Graduates!!! lalo na kay General Carlos Garcia and mga Euro Generals… Ba mga PMA grad un sila lahat…hehehe

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AR3F3RNQX4U3PKBI526NJI6BYM Jose

      Baka nagkukumparahan ng nakurakot ang mga mistah at nagkakakantyawan kaya hayun pilit humahabol yung mga nasa PNP, he he he.  Tapos sisisihin yung mga second class na opisyal galing sa PNPA, OK ding palusot ah!

    • LEANDRO BALDEMOR JR.

      na tumbok mo. sabungero ka nga….

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/iV0XkkNontlsHWTkG2jcuz.PB64A#6b054 F alonso

      Dapat sinaksak din nila sarili nila sa 2 na SUV para mas maganda pagka picture sa kanila.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SOZE2NGSPH7YVXF7YIGQTK76WY Lemon hatch

    Sorry I failed to mention General Jacinto Ligot, sorry po talaga…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SOZE2NGSPH7YVXF7YIGQTK76WY Lemon hatch

    dapat talaga ilipat sa pnp ang pnpa para marami makapasok na bata ng mga pma generals,

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JQLEANNJ75HGVIIL4IEW2DGBMI John

    Naaawa na ako ngayon kay mr.toolfool. Sa mga pinapalabas nyang mga imbentong balita laban sa gatasan niyang pnp organization nagsasawa at nalalaman na din ng sambayanan ang kanyan racket para hindi mawalan ng trabaho. Di kasi competent para magcover ng ibang matitinong totoong balita na makakatulong sa tong bayan kaya kung anu-ano nalang kasinungalingan ang pinapublish! Bago na naman ba ang pamunuan ng pnp kaya nagpaparamdam ka na naman? how much for your news? Pity on you mr.toolfool!

  • white scorpion

    can we still teach the police DISCIPINE. excuse me but perhaps not in this generation or next. they are so rotten. I WILL honestly say they are badged HOODLUMS. it takes only a few months for a rookie to learn the trades of their seniors. after i myself was expose to the socalled policeman. it is very hard to make me believe they can still be discipline. nanghuhula lang ang mga resulta ng imbestigasyion nila. 

  • kayumanggui46

    w”will” have a p[olice force rotten to the core? rotten to the core matagal na, not “will”, “is and has been”…even with PMA as leaders and heads of police

  • basilionisisa

    having two police training academies (PMA and PNPA) will surely generate CONFLICT. It will promote DIVISION, a ‘sila’ and ‘kami’ mentality. Why not DISSOLVE the PNPA entirely? Having it supervised by Camp Aguinaldo will just be like ‘recycling’ it, will still promote the SILA/KAMI factions. Why not just have the PMA as the training ground for Policemen as well, where they will learn better combat techniques and better (moral) values. They will definitely develop better self censorship and discipline, and perhaps Patriotism.

    The revelation of the culture being perpetrated in PNPA is SHOCKING! How can hazing develop self-discipline? Yes, it teaches them to SURVIVE… but BY HOOK or BY CROOK means! Is it any wonder then why the first thing they do when they graduate and be ‘released’ to the public is to establish their own territorial ‘KOTONG’ and ‘LAGAY’ network, their own civilian cliques and conglomerates, which ultimately and definitely result to CORRUPTION and VIOLENCE.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/D6UNAQVURAUZPQIEDNU45PK5GY Randel

      The current police and military systems have different mandates. In the past, it was the the defunct Philippine Constabulary (PC), a branch of the military service and the forerunner of the PNP, that governed police system. They were called the national police at that time. Too much brutal human rights abuses were experienced under the PC regime. This made rethinking and revisiting the concepts of police and military systems and gave way to the creation of the PNPA, to train police leaders without the mentality of a military man. The 1987 Constitution created the PNP as a civilian agency and not under the military. The concept behind is that the police system is a civilian bureaucracy and is community-based while the military is purely combat and mission-oriented. Police enforces the law in order to maintain internal peace and order and attain the objective of having a just society. Military is focused on the external threats and defense objectives. Police is part of the five pillars of the criminal justice system while the military is not. In summary, police and military have different niches in our bureaucratic system though they are interdependent. police are directly involved in community policing, while the military is on the national defense. They are relatively different entities and need their own specializations.
      The way i understand your proposal, probably, in my own lens, it may cause more harm and problems if the current system of the police and military will be reverted back to the old set-up wherein the police will be under the military command and management to include training of police cadets. They may collaborate and be interdependent at most times however they have different roles to perform and identities to build-up. In a nutshell, police and military should have different orientations to strike a balance among the conflicting interests of the society and both the institutions.

      • basilionisisa

        Thanks Randel and Jose for the response.

        You somehow misunderstood what I was trying to say. Of course Police and Military are two different entities but, point is, don’t they have the same discipline: the safeguard of peace and order? just like a Heart Specialist and an Oncologist, different specializations, but same practice: the preservation of life; as well as a Criminal Lawyer and a Corporate Lawyer, different particularization, but same conduct: the defense of Law.

        PMA is just the Name of the institution they are to be TRAINED in, a School of various specializations: Policing, Military, Border Security, International Protection, etc, just as a School of Law or a College Medicine is. It doesn’t mean the Army subordinates or manages the Police when they graduate.

        Having just ONE academy or institute of training, the cadets will BOND together on a single Goal and a common Code of Behavior or Discipline, and that is our objective here, which is so crucial when they go out to the public performing different roles and carrying out different skills and specialties.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AR3F3RNQX4U3PKBI526NJI6BYM Jose

      That is precisely the problem.  PNP is civilian in nature while PMA is military.  The PNP has been in the clutches of these military minded people for too long now.  These “police commanders” are trained for wars and not crime solving, they lord it over the criminology graduates and lawyers, so what would you expect?  Less investigation and police work but more on carnage, carnage, carnage.  And now you want them to have more of the same or to be precise, a complete takeover? 

      The breakup from this dysfunctional marriage that created freaks should have been made long ago.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SOZE2NGSPH7YVXF7YIGQTK76WY Lemon hatch

    Wala na sanang Trillanes and Magdalo, if AFP Generals have better moral values and better (corrupt) techniques basilionisisa..hehe

  • milespacker

    Outsource the police force. Singaporean cops seem like a good choice.

    Lol!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/D6UNAQVURAUZPQIEDNU45PK5GY Randel

      hope we have the fund, and most importantly there will be a consensus among the  filipino people to be under the administration of foreign law enforcers. Your concept  will be as good as the presence of social acceptability. 

      • milespacker

        The idea of outsourcing is preposterous of course. But what my comment suggests is that a credible, efficient and an honest police force has already been in existence in Singapore. The PNP doesn’t have to reinvent the wheel. Pnoy should have police consultants from Singapore over. Give our boys-in-blue some foreign exposure, para maging competitive and mahiya.

    • https://me.yahoo.com/a/iV0XkkNontlsHWTkG2jcuz.PB64A#6b054 F alonso

      They are clean in Singapore,if they saw our politicians,they will become like them.

      • milespacker

        lol, probably.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

        Singapore has a very good reputation today.  Many have moved there to study, work, do business, retire.  Chinese action star Jet Lee moved his children to study in Singapore.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/74DX67S5U6H557SPUXS5XZ6QJI Alisto Juan

    Sa ako bay Mon, pareho lang sila, pangalan lang ang pinag-iba. .Nasa buto na yan corruption hindi noong una na nasa dugo (kung sa dugo puede natin i dialysis). . May kalawang na ang sistema kaya hindi na maalis. . Brace for yourself. .

  • Olibo

    The govt.should do the best it could to transform these two academies into Westpoint -like schools. Look at one of the graduates, Fidel Ramos. Joke only.

  • parengtony

    An honest to goodness lifestyle check of police officials starting from the top will provide a truer picture of the extent  rottenness within the PNP.

  • otepau68

    It is unfortunate that PNP is tantamount to corruption, gambling, kidnapping & other crimes. It no longer aim to be the protector of the public. It is already the abuser, the leech, the antagonist. I am so glad I don’t any police as a friend. He can stain & will be contagious.    

  • $14141131

    Am I witnessing a miracle? Tulfo’s article is featured in the commentaries on a Sunday! The layout-artist must be on meds. lol.

    BTW, if you can find a retired general either from the police or the military who is not living in a rich fashion in a mansion complete with those high-end cars and golf sets, it could be like winning in a lottery.

  • Andre Mitchell

    Malaki ang kita sa hulidap.

    Sa UP Los Banos noong 2011, napuno ang kulungan sa bayan gawa ng Intensified Hulidap Operations. Malaki na kasi ang asking price ng buong kapulisan na assigned doon – hindi bababa sa P150k sa mga na-frame up nila. Hindi lahat kaya bayaran yon – kulong na lang. 

    Dalawang taon na, puro mga nakakulong pa rin yung mga kawawang bata na peperahan nila dapat – yung mga hulidap operators mga nadismiss lang.

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/iV0XkkNontlsHWTkG2jcuz.PB64A#6b054 F alonso

    “At the PMA, a cadet is guided by an honor code that teaches him not to lie nor cheat. It also enjoins him to report a fellow cadet who lies or cheat”.
    Nung bata pa ako,ganyan din paniniwala ko.Pero sino ang promotor ng nakawan ng Military budget,sina Ligot,Garcia,Lim,Rabusa,at yung nag suicide.kumakain ng pulbura mga bata nila,sila may mansion at nag papaka sarap pamilya nila.May na hatulan sa kanila?WALA.
    Kasali lang yung thou shall not cheat sa tenets ng PMA while they are in the Academy.

    Pano di sila mag nakaw,mismo Ama at ina ng bansa nag nanakaw din.

  • sonnygc

    You train them and when they graduate they are Crooks! The Puro Mga Magnanakaw is cesspool  of corrupt generals production line. The PNPA is no better.

    The problem as I see it is the lack of enforcement, but rather the coddling og wrong doers, hence they are emboldened to do their dastardly deeds at the expense of the poor tax payers of this
    blighted Republic.

    Is there hope for our land? Honestly and seriously; I DOUBT IT. 

  • kawatancila

    kahit sa saan pa ilagay ang supervision ng PNPA … walang pag babago… kc nasa sistema na ng mga magiging police ang maging corrupt… kc sila ay humahanga o they patronized the lifestyles of their  officers, malaki ang temptation na maging corrupt ka… bakit po ba.. una … na asa isip ng isang police o sinuman … maging govt officials ay ito…

    pag tumanggap ba ako ng susuhol.. malalaman ba nila? 
    pag nalaman nila .. me evidencia ba sila?
    pag nahuli ako… ako lang ba… paano si boss o mayor ..kapwa ko din corrupt… 
    d ko naman ito hinihingi .. bagkus kusa naman itong bigay… masama ba ito?
    pag nahuli ako… makukulong ba ako?
    pag nakulong ako ma sentensiyahan kaya ako..o ma abswelto?
    pag ma parusahan ako… kaya ko bang ma pa baba ang hatol .. 
    pag d ko mapa baba ang hatol… pwede pa akong mag probation?
        then finally … nabuo sa isip ng isang tao… maging corrupt na lang ako… 
        kc ang justice system natin ay may mga corrupt din…
         sample na case…
        isang kahero sa govt nag nakaw o malversed ng 80 thousand pesos … nahatulan mabilango ng 8 years…  on the other hand… another cashier nag malversed o nag nakaw ng 60 million pesos… na abswelto… kaso tumagal ng madaming taon bago siya na pawalang sala..
        so sa bayan natin pag manakaw ka ..kung kaya mong gawin lakihan muna …..kc madali kang mahuli … pag malaki ang nanakaw mo…d ka tiyak basta basta .. madakip ,, kahit ikaw asa mahjongan lang… pera pera lang… tiyak ang police na huhuli … sau ay … babalik sa staion ng police at sasabihin… d ka nya nakita o naabutan sa lugar na iyon…
        PMA kontra PNPA…. parehas lang …. mag kaiba lang ng racket… police sa jueteng o hulidap . kidnap for ransom etc… military … pag air force sa parts ng eroplano o pag transport ng illegal gamit ang air force, navy sa dagat may smuggling.. gun running  etc…… sa army.. illegal na cutting of lumber o protection sa mga illegal lumber.. pag benta ng mga armasat bala  sa rebelde…at lahat ng mga nasabing branches … me mga illegal na payroll … awol na personnel na papa sahod pa… plus mga commision sa mga supplier basta me purchase me tiyak na porsiyento… yan ang common denominator ng lahat…kahit saan na office ng govt… 



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