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Apparently, the Supreme Court feels no urgency to act on a petition for a temporary restraining order (TRO) on the new reproductive health law.

The tribunal on Tuesday held its first full court session for the year but did not take any action on the petition filed last week by lawyer James Imbong and his fellow lawyer-wife Lovely Ann opposing the Responsible Parenthood and Reproductive Health Act of 2012.

At a press briefing, acting SC public information chief Gleo Guerra said Imbong’s petition assailing the reproductive health law and seeking a TRO on its implementation, “will be taken up again by the court en banc in a future session.”

Asked how soon the full court would tackle the Imbong petition, Guerra said: “The date has not yet been specified.”

Last week, the Imbong couple filed the petition before the high court on behalf of their two minor children and the Magnificat Child Development Center Inc., asking the law not to be implemented because it was unconstitutional and “mocks the nation’s Filipino culture—noble and lofty in its values and holdings on life, motherhood and family.”

Imbong’s mother is Jo Aurea Imbong, the legal counsel of the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines (CBCP). The CBCP lawyer is also a “collaborating counsel” in the case.

President Aquino signed the Responsible Parenthood and Reproductive Health Act into law last month following heated debates in Congress. Opposition to the proposed law was mounted by the Catholic Church.

In a 24-page petition for certiorari and prohibition, the petitioners specifically cited two grounds for their appeal. First, the law “introduces policies that negate and frustrate the foundational ideals and aspirations of the sovereign Filipino;” and second, it “cannot be implemented without exceeding the boundaries of government action as established in the Constitution.”


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  • brunogiordano

    “No TRO vs RH law”

    And there will never be.

    RH LAW is LEGAL and CONSTITUTIONAL.

  • Fulpol

    if the Court reviewed it by strict scrutiny, the RH Law is unconstitutional…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      Kahit anong gawin mo diyan, pag binaligtad mo..lopluF, pag inuna mo huling syllable…polFul…kumedyante ang labas mo kahit anong gawin sa ‘yo.

  • quirinomayer

    Imbong family – CBCP and Vatican puppets. If  Padre Damaso tells them to eat their feces, they will gladly comply.

     

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

      With a SMILE, Bwahahaha!!!

  • bagombong

    Huwag ng makialam pa ang SC…ipinasa na ng kamara at senado at pinirmahan ng Pres. tapos, isipin nyo, mahigit 150 na congressman pati senado tapos e-eksena ulit ang SC para itigil…puwede ba. huwag ng makiaalan ang SC.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GYYFBINDMTZHM6TDHPB667452M agustin

    The Catholics are basing their anti RH law on the bible phrase : “Go out and multiply” but this phrase from the bible is not proven that it is directly from God”s. and there is an opposite in the bible : Thy shall not commit adultery or thy neighbor’s wife.  Again this is not proven that it is directly from God’s mouth.

    • rayingga

       Kulang na lang sabihin mo na hindi totoo ang Holy Bible, Nonetheless, I am pro RH law.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      Maraming magtatatawa sa mga sinasabi mong ‘yan, agustin, kawawa ka naman…bakit pumapasok pasok ka kasi sa relihiyon…kung gusto mong iwan ‘yung may tanikala sa leeg na patung-patong ang kasong corruption, anomalies,scams, eh, di harapin mo na lang ang katotohanan.

      Tamo’ng sabi ni rayingga.

  • blainz

    If there was a TRO on stupidity, RH Law would have been 14 years ago.

    Mr. Guerra could have said “schedule of session is pending as per rhythm method” followed by mocking laughter to drive home the point that the Supreme Court has better things to do with its time than unruffling the feathers of sore losers.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    GOD BLESS MOVE FORWARD PHILIPPINES!! WAG KAYO MANIWALA SA MGA OBISPO KUNG MAG SINUNGALING WAGAS MATATAKAW SA MONTERO BUWAYA SALOT SA PILIPINAS LALO NA SI BISHOP OSCAR CRUZ MUKANG GALUNGGONG PAG MUMUKA NG BAKLANG ITO BISHOP BACANI KAPAL NG PAG MUMUKA MO IMPOKRITO DAMASO!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      Ito pastor nyo!

      By Anugrah Kumar , Christian Post Contributor
      January 5, 2013|9:57 am
      Jack Schaap, former pastor of First Baptist Church in Hammond, Ind., has requested in a new court filing that he be given the minimum 10-year sentence for his sexual relationship with a teen girl from his church. He blamed the affair on stress and depression.

      Schaap, 55, was under great stress, exhausted and depressed at the time of the relationship, says a sentencing memorandum filed in U.S. District Court in Hammond by the megachurch pastor’s attorney, Paul Stracci.
      “Unfortunately, for a four-week period during the summer of 2012, he acted in a manner contrary to the entire balance of his life by engaging in sexual activity with a young woman with whom he had only recently come to counsel,” Stracci wrote in the memorandum, according to The Associated Press.

      Schaap, who pleaded guilty four months ago to taking the teen girl across state lines with intent to engage in criminal sexual activity, was regularly working 100-hour weeks as he struggled to raise money for the 15,000-member church, handled additional counseling responsibilities, and had to lay off staff, the memorandum said. He was also being treated for chronic and acute inflammation of his prostate – all of that led to his “aberrant” behavior with the girl who turned 17 during the relationship.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      Ito rapist na pastor nyo!

      Scots pastor accused of raping 10-year-old girl faces trial in USBy ALISTAIR MUNRO Published on Friday 28 December 2012 00:01AM SCOTS pastor accused of raping a 10-year-old girl in the United States is to face trial next month.Malcolm John Fraser – born in Aberdeen and brought up in Elgin – allegedly told his victim she would “go to hell” if she told anyone, according to papers lodged by prosecutors in Washington State.Fraser, 39, the assistant pastor at Sound Doctrine Church in the city of Enumclaw, faces two counts of first-degree rape of a child. The case was due to be heard earlier this month, but has been postponed to 16 January, with a preliminary hearing on 4 January. The newest delay stems from a request by Fraser’s legal counsel.According to Ian Goodhewof, spokesman for the King County prosecutor’s office, Fraser’s attorney filed a motion “to have the computers of the Enumclaw police department forensically examined for e-mails potentially relevant to the case”.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SA NEW ZEALAND MAS MARAMI BAKA SA TAO KAYA SAWA SA STEAK SA PILIPINAS MAS MARAMI BATANG HUBO SA BAKA KAYA MARAMING ISNATCHER OBISPO MAG SINUNGALING WAGAS DEMONYO!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      Eat this!

      DEKALB COUNTY, Ga. -One of Atlanta’s most well-known pastors is accused of cheating his flock.  

      A DeKalb County grand jury indicted Gospel Tabernacle Church Bishop Wiley Jackson and his brother Rodney on eight counts of violating the Georgia Securities Act on Thursday.”These people are essentially charged with selling securities without a license. In  Georgia, this is regulated activity,” DeKalb County District Attorney Robert James said.James said that the Jackson brothers recruited investors to their company, Genesis LLC — a business that the district attorney says doesn’t exist.”The Secretary of State has confirmed that, at least licensed in Georgia as an LLC, there is no Genesis LLC,” James said.According to his website, Jackson’s Gospel Tabernacle Church has three metro area locations.

      The district attorney says the victims who lost thousands of dollars were parishioners at Jackson’s church.”They invested with them and they lost their money,” James said.One of the three victims named in the indictment lost as much as $10,000.Jackson released a statement to FOX 5 stating, “I am surprised to learn of this indictment. I am out of town and cannot respond until I have read the indictment.  There has been no wrongdoing.”But James says the case is clear.”They operated outside of the law,” he said.James says the investments were ministry and church related.The maximum penalty Bishop Jackson could be facing is 10 years jail time for each of the eight criminal counts.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bernavie.eviota Bernavie Eviota

    move on na kayo.. just be confident with the way you guide your children coz you’re more influential than the law.. if you choose the traditional way, who cares, you wont be jailed anyway.. 

  • ryan andres

    Asan na ang magigiting nating Anti-RH catholics??? Banat na peeps!

    Kahit ano pa sabihin ninyo, natalo pa rin kayo! Hehe

    It’s hard to swallow loss and defeat if you’ve won your victories through lies and deceit.

  • ryan andres

    Mr. Imbong, napapaligaya mo pa ba si Mrs. Imbong…? Is it still safe and satisfying…?

    Oh wait… ikaw pala yung payaso na nanggugulo… so am assuming na hindi sya safe and satisfying… Mr. Imboiiing….

  • $31701260

    hindi naman madalian yan, sabi nga ni lagman it will take time… kaya very patient rin ang mga anti-RH… patuloy pa rin ang laban.!

  • discerningmind

    Practically speaking the TRO is dead on arrival in the Supreme Court. GO RH!

  • mad_as_Hamlet

    The Supreme Court must have seen that broken egos do not constitute “irreparable damage.”

    The capacity to swallow being natural and inherent in all persons, especially in priests and bishops. 

  • butilngbayan

    Get over it CBCP.  The majority of our people have spoken thru our legislators.  Learn to accept defeat in humility or shall you continue to divide our people desperately?

  • Horst Manure

    What an beginer  using the law here one would thing a lawyer would know how hopeless the law is.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      ANO BA ANG IBIG MONG SABIHIN?  MARUNONG KA BANG MANAGALOG?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GYYFBINDMTZHM6TDHPB667452M agustin

       I LIKE YOUR POST HERE, IT AMUSES ME. I DON’T CARE WHAT YOUR MESSAGE IS, BUT FOR SURE YOU MADE ME LAUGH.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5UOZM4PWIDKO7G64HL3PPMXUTM Constantine

    Of course the SC also listens to the pulse of the people. The SC Justices know that an overwhelming majority of Filipinos favor the RH law, Who wants to go against the tide. And in the first place, the RH law was passed via constitutional means so what is there to rule?

  • jinx

    Ang alam ko lang magaling sa TRO Corona SC.

  • UrHONOR

    NEXT move by the ANO dressed in white and helmeted- elevate the question to the court of San Pedro. Then to JC. After that, the German Shepherd! WHEW!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XXMVC66BK2NJINS3UEVPU7UDNM Joe

    CBCP claims that it has nothing to do with the TRO filed at the Supreme Court against the RH Bill.
    But now it is shown that the petitioner’s mother is the Legal Counsel of the CBCP and the
    collaborating counsel in the case.  I thought it is a sin to tell a lie.  Somebody down there must be planning a big welcome party for the bishops’ reunion in hell.

    • where_I_stand

      Your comment reveals your lack of knowledge about the CBCP. A bishop, for example, issued a statement on a national political issue affecting his diocese. Such a statement is viewed only as a local pronouncement of the local church, and not a pronouncement of the CBCP. It was the case of one bishop allegedly threatened BS Aquino of excommunication. The CBCP did not share his opinion.

      The petitioners are lay individuals and not the bishops or thru CBCP-ECFL. These individuals, members of ProLife partylist, are competent to challenge the newly signed RH law in the Supreme Court. They outlined and presented their arguments in their petition paper asking the High Tribunal for a TRO.

      The CBCP-Episcopal Commission on Family and Life (ECFL), thru Mr Melvin Catro, welcomed this act of “ordinary Catholic faithful” [not the bishops themselves or the CBCP-ECFL] to put a legal challenge on the RH law.

      I am amused by your correlation: Since Jo Imbong, the legal counsel of the CBCP, is the mother of the petitioner James and also the “collaborating counsel” in the case, it follows that CBCP-ECFL executive secretary Fr. Melvin Castro’s statement that the CBCP has no involvement in the preparation and filing of the petition is a lie. The petitioner James Imbo is reported saying that “he did not consult any CBCP or Church officials when he drew up the petition, …he wrote it on his own. But… informed the CBCP media office about the filing of the petition” (PDI, 1/3/2013)

      • Jane Tan

        To assume that his family-upbringing or influence having nothing to do with it is just being naive. Your first paragraph is true, but steps should be taken when there are people who step out of line. To allow such actions to persist without an appropriate penalty is the same as supporting it, condoning it.

        I agree with you in the respect that the decision of one is not the decision of the collective. Though I would also like to point out that openly and brazenly mentioning that it was okay for lay-groups to do so is pretty much the same thing.

  • UrHONOR

    GO easy on the prists en bisyaps……trabaho lang yan….kailangan kumita para makapag-kape at Rosario ….at Rosario ulit. :-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004484259946 Drew Villanueva

    Wow, there are lots of Trolls here, Anti-Christs, Anti-Clericals, people who feed themselves with negativity and people who are obviously allies with Satan and his minions without them even realizing, and we, the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church have survived their petty mockery for centuries. Well good triumphs against evil always. may God forgive you, for You don’t know what you are doing. :) Good day

    • Jane Tan

      Not their fault, sir. If the shepherd does not know how to lead, how are the sheep to follow? Its not surprising that even Catholics are turned-off by the Church’s current actions. 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        …turn off? What a shallow reasoning. 

        As a Catholic, one should build up his/her faith to know more of the True Church Christ had established.

      • Jane Tan

        Turned-off is the effect, not the reason. The reason can be any of the following: preaching on issues instead of the Word of God, extravagance, rape, sexual and homosexual acts, hypocrisy, etc. None of these reasons are shallow.

        Don’t you worry about my faith. I suggest you worry more about the faith of these men of the cloth that are being poor examples to their flock.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        These men of cloth are not immune to sin. They can sin and they are accountable for their sins much as we before the Lord.

        But the Church of Christ is still the same and will never diminish though there are sinners within its fold. 

        Christ did not diminish though Judas was with Him! 

      • Jane Tan

        If you will check my post that you initially replied to, none of it suggested that Christ or the Church will diminish. And, your first sentence was what I already pointed out.

        Frankly, I don’t even know why you’re posting Biblical verses in my replies when you’re also agreeing with me.

        Maybe you should tune down your contradicting nature and actually read and understand what people are posting.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        They are not contradicting…you just dont want to understand. 

        What i said was so easy to understand…seek the True Church for there are many which pretend to be…there is no salvation outside the True Church… Priests sin just like any of us. We are all accountable of our sins.

        What can be so difficult to understand?

      • Jane Tan

        Just take what I said as is. You don’t need to bring in unneeded analysis. “If the shepherd does not know how to lead…” – sinning priest, “how are the sheep to follow” – people straying or sinning.

        Just take it as it is. Priests should be a better role model. We don’t need to hear your philosophy of life. All it says is you have this need to sound philosophical. I just dumbed it down. You even said the same words, priests sin just like any of us. Yet you have to add stuff like “seek the True Church”.

        I really have to go with marionics on this one. You sir, are just a troll.

      • marionics

        well, to me he was obvious from the get go he he

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        hahaha…i wont change the original to a fake religion!

      • marionics

        jane that’s called trollism he he

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        …for those who knowingly and deliberately (that is, not out of innocent ignorance) commit the sins of heresy (rejecting divinely revealed doctrine) or schism (separating from the Catholic Church and/or joining a schismatic church), no salvation would be possible until they repented and returned to live in Catholic unity.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Ignatius of Antioch

        “Be not deceived, my brethren: If anyone follows a maker of schism [i.e., is a schismatic], he does not inherit the kingdom of God; if anyone walks in strange doctrine [i.e., is a heretic], he has no part in the passion [of Christ]. Take care, then, to use one Eucharist, so that whatever you do, you do according to God: For there is one flesh of our Lord Jesus Christ, and one cup in the union of his blood; one altar, as there is one bishop, with the presbytery and my fellow servants, the deacons” (Letter to the Philadelphians 3:3–4:1 [A.D. 110]). 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_26BA6W344SPNT7SP3PLACAGXBI Blue_Crimson

      @facebook-100004484259946:disqus : Kain bubog na lang kayo, mga PRO-BIRTH ANTIs. XD

  • akimaxx

    Catholics in the Philippines, ask the advice from the Pope on the moral issue of RH Bill in our country, or to Spain and Italy. News that the Pope is in tune with the times, he has SOCIAL NETWORKING SITES. Let’s end this debate, advice coming from the head of the Catholic church is a shorter route and wiser move than filing the petition to the Supreme Court. Let’s see the infallibility of the Pope to the 80% Filipino Catholics (?) that CDCP claimed.

    2013, BLESSED PHILIPPINES, MOVE ON TO PROGRESS.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    Our Lord made St. Peter the first pope, entrusted to him His entire flock, and gave him supreme authority in the universal Church of Christ. 
     

    John 21:15-17-“Jesus saith to Simon Peter: Simon, son of John, lovest thou me?  He saith to him: Yea, Lord, thou knowest that I love thee.  He saith to him: Feed my lambs.  He saith to him again: Simon, son of John, lovest thou me? He saith to him: Yea, Lord, thou knowest that I love thee.  He saith to him: Feed my lambs.  He saith to him a third time: Simon, son of John, lovest thou me?  Peter was grieved, because he had said to him the third time: Lovest thou me? And he said to him: Lord, thou knowest all things: thou knowest that I love thee.  He said to him: Feed my sheep.”
     

    And with the supreme authority that Our Lord Jesus Christ conferred upon St. Peter (and his successors, the popes) comes what is called Papal Infallibility.  Papal Infallibility is inseparable from Papal Supremacy – there was no point for Christ to make St. Peter the head of His Church (as Christ clearly did) if St. Peter or his successors, the popes, could err when exercising that supreme authority to teach on a point of Faith.  The supreme authority must be unfailing on binding matters of Faith and morals or else it is no true authority from Christ at all. 
     

    Papal Infallibility does not mean that a pope cannot err at all and it does not mean that a pope cannot lose his soul and be damned in Hell for grave sin.  It means that the successors of St. Peter (the popes of the Catholic Church) cannot err when authoritatively teaching on a point of Faith or morals to be held by the entire Church of Christ.  We find the promise of the unfailing faith for St. Peter and his successors referred to by Christ in Luke 22.
     

    Luke 22:31-32- “And the Lord said: Simon, Simon, behold Satan hath desired to have all of you, that he may sift you as wheat: But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and thou, being once converted, confirm thy brethren.”
     

    Satan desired to sift all the Apostles (plural) like wheat, but Jesus prayed for Simon Peter (singular), that his faith fail not.  Jesus is saying that St. Peter and his successors (the popes of the Catholic Church) have an unfailing faith when authoritatively teaching a point of faith or morals to be held by the entire Church of Christ. 

  • marionics

    ayaaaan na ang flip he he

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      What s your argument, flip?

  • marionics

    ahahaha bato bato sa langit…may tinamaan…nag reply naman bwahahaha

    he’s even too dumb to see that he was baited bwahahaha

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      hahaha…run out of arguments, flip?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    So you may know!

    Pope St. Pius V, Bull excommunicating the heretic Queen Elizabeth of England, Feb. 25, 1570: “The sovereign jurisdiction of the one holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, outside of which there is no salvation, has been given by Him [Jesus Christ], unto Whom all power in Heaven and on Earth is given, the King who reigns on high, but to one person on the face of the Earth, to Peter, prince of the Apostles… If any shall contravene this,  Our decree, we bind them with the same bond of anathema.”

  • marionics

    “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
    Mark Twain

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      …what to be like him huh? hahaha fool!

      Although Twain was a Presbyterian, he was sometimes critical of organized religion and certain elements of Christianity through his later life. He wrote, for example, “Faith is believing what you know ain’t so,” and “If Christ were here now there is one thing he would not be – a Christian.”  <–fool like you!

      • patrickinca

        The only fool that i see over here is you!  Preaching about Christ and pushing out  unchristian like words at the same time. Your not just a fool but a hypocrite. People like you gives the catholic religion a bad rep. Ridiculing other religion for your own ego? Priceless. You make Bin Laden and Satan very proud indeed. And wait…I’m a Catholic so just in case you might start thinking that I’m a Protestant or a member of any other sect. I know a lot more non-catholics who can expound a much more civil argument than you. And more understanding and civil about other people who are not a member of their religion. You sir are not just a fool and a hypocrite, but an abomination.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        …oh and you are Catholic! mama mia! Horay!!! Shame on you! You are a half-Catholic. Better a dead Catholic! 

        Ooppss really you are a Catholic? You smell and sound like a protestant! Wolf under the sheep’s skin!

        Are you really a Catholic? In war, traitors are killed! 

      • patrickinca

        Call yourself as a proud catholic but a half baked christian. “In war traitors are killed.” ooooooh ‘m so scared. boooooh hahahahaha. I didnt know that theres a war going on (or your just a one very very angry human being). Seems like your world is just purely black and white (more like ignorant). Opposing your views translates me as a protestant? hahahahaha. Your not just a hypocrite, fool and an abomination, but also an ignorant catholic. hahahahaha

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        Aho! 

        I did not say that you ll be killed. I just want to tell you that traitors are given the most extreme punishment. We ll that Church don’t kill. Why because spirit outside the Church will just died a natural death. So there is no need!

        Born again here are elated of what you are doing. They are more amused of you! Same feather, flocked together!

      • patrickinca

         Church dont kill? Seems like You dont know your history. Remember the Inquistion which 5 million Jews was murdered because the refused to convert to catholicism? Why do the heck do you HATE born again and protestants anyway? They didnt do anything wrong to you. Why do you preach all this hate and talk about God at the same time? Do you see yourself right now? Do you ever analyze yourself? Are you sure that those Born Again worshippers are jumping up and down with glee while reading this page right now? Why are you so paranoid? “Why because spirit outside the Church will just died a natural death. So there is no need!” – You are worshipping a cruel God if this is the case. God is full of kindness and mercy. Remember the centurion who doesnt know God but still did good deeds? You should stop this sense of superiority because you think because you are a catholic, you are morally and spiritually superior to the rest of the world. How do I know? I am a theologian and you are talking to one of the people who knows more truth about the catholic Church. Just like what i said, people like you gives my beloved catholic home a bad rep. You can call me a traitor which is false but i can call you a hypocrite  which is true.

      • marionics

        wow! i guess there’s nothing more to say after that he he

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    The Catholic Church also teaches that those baptized persons
    who embrace heretical or schismatic sects will lose their souls.  Jesus founded His Church upon St. Peter, as
    we saw already, and declared that whoever does not hear the Church be
    considered as the heathen and publican (Matthew 18:17).  He also commanded His followers to observe
    “all things whatsoever” He has commanded (Matthew 28:20).  The Eastern schismatic sects (such as the
    “Orthodox”) and the Protestant sects are breakoff movements that have separated
    from the Catholic Church.  By separating
    themselves from the one Church
    of Christ, they leave the
    path of salvation and enter the path of perdition.

     

         These sects
    obstinately and pertinaciously reject one or more of the truths that Christ
    clearly instituted, such as the Papacy (Matthew 16; John 21; etc.), Confession
    (John 20:23), the Eucharist (John 6:54), and other dogmas of the Catholic
    Faith.  In order to be saved one must
    assent to all the things which the Catholic Church, based on Scripture and
    Tradition, has infallibly defined as dogmas of the Faith.

     

    …The Church “anathematizes” (a severe form of
    excommunication) all who obstinately assert the contrary to its dogmatic
    definitions.

     

         Thus, a
    Protestant or an “Eastern Orthodox” who obstinately rejects these dogmatic
    teachings is anathematized and severed from the Church, outside of which there
    is no salvation.  …The person who is
    obstinate, however, and willfully contradicts the dogmatic teaching of the
    Church receives the full force of the automatic condemnation.

    • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

      the bible also says the false church will drive the true church into the wilderness. the first church was the jewish christian church. of which james the just who was jesus real brother was the first leader. this was verified by mark matthew and the historians josephus and, hagesippus. most modern scholars except catholics agree.james was tried and klled for being jesus brother. look up james the just on google. in the fifth book of his memoirs hegesippus wrotej james the brother of the lord, suceeded to the government of the church in conjunction with the apostles. he had been called the just by all from the time of our savior to the present day, for there were many who bore the name james. he was holy from his mothers womb. it goes on to tell how he never ate meat was never anointed and never cut his hair.until he was killed.prove these words wrong.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        hahaha…Jesus had a brother? Biological brother? who told you this, your pastor? hahaha…what a history!

      • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

        as anyone ever told you were very narrow minded ha ha ha hai dont have a pastor so you cant blame them i dont need one to be a christian.there is ten verses  in the bible that mention jesus brothers and two that mention his sisters one time jesus asked mary where was his brothers and sisters was he saying where is my cousins and my cousins i didnt know he stuttered. matthew said jesus was marys first born son are you calling him a liar matt.1  22-24 says mary was a virgin until jesus was born. key word until. i quoted hagesippus because the church is always quoting him when he says something they can use in luke jesus mentions getting a new cousin. even the church has different stories one is they are jesus cousins and the other they were josephs kids from another marriage so which is it. show anywhere in tne bible i am wrong. look up james the just but you wont because you dont want to know. you would rather preach to and insult other people.if jesus came down and said i had brothers you would be leading the pack to call him a liar.read all of the bible you might learn something oh the greek word the church uses to say it means cousin adelphos actually means one born from the same womb. i sure your going to insult me again like the good christen you are but your wasting your time i have been insulted byt experts

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        The Holy Apostle James, Brother of the Lord, was the eldest son of Joseph the Betrothed from his first marriage with Solomonia. The Apostle James is remembered after the Feast of the Nativity of Christ together with his father Joseph and the Prophet-King David, since he accompanied his family on the Flight into Egypt and lived there with the Infant Jesus, the Mother of God and Joseph. Later, he returned to Israel with them. 
        After the Ascension of the Lord, St James was the first Bishop of Jerusalem, gaining the great esteem not only of Christians, but also of Jews. He was thrown from the roof of the Jerusalem Temple because he had publicly preached to the people about the God-manhood of the Lord Jesus Christ. The Holy Apostle James is also commemorated on October 23.

      • marionics

        that’s what you get for arguing with the stupid he he

      • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

        im a glutton for punishment besides its been fun he he good luck

      • marionics

        give time…it’ll get old real quick

      • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

        i know im not used to typing this much, got find a different hobby  i would like to hear the next answer though

      • marionics

        well, i’ll leave you to it then he he

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        see who got a long snake tongue!

      • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

        he is sure a good spokes man for the church he even attacks good catholics. its starting to get boring now. like listening to a broken record

      • marionics

        i knew right away that he’s got a screw loose from his initial posts so i never engaged him

      • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

        yea im done with him waste of time. ii knew he messed up to but i was bored.gets lonely sometimes out here in the boonies

      • marionics

        wow! you must reeeeeeaaaallly be so lonely to engage the likes of this guy he he

      • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

        im over it

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        wow….your a saying of a good catholic! how can that be when your a protestant! what credential you have?

        anyways…all you have now are all fake!

        no worries!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

        i a have papers saying i am a catholic and was one for 20 years. then when i came here and seen this mess and seen people like you who brag about being great catholics  then robbed my money and wifes  jewerly i got sick of hypocrites. cant you read i dont have and never had a pastor talk about dense.go sleep with a child priest. im. done with your stupidity 

      • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

        sorry marionics the message below the long snake tongue was for hit wrong button better long snake tongue than forked tongue

      • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

        was for you

      • marionics

        if i were dealing with a hot girl i will surely use a long snake tongue he he

      • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

        i think he thinks you are a litte boy and is trying to seduce you

      • marionics

        aaaahahaha!
        priest jokes huh?
        he he

      • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

        sorry my american background slipped out

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        american? 946 the 4355 7 8?… conceited animal! so what? toink! your shxt still smells!!  conceited animal! toink! hehehe!

      • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

        thats funny i needed a good laugh haw haw haw

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        The Holy Apostle James, Brother of the Lord, was the eldest son of Joseph the Betrothed from his first marriage with Solomonia. The Apostle James is remembered after the Feast of the Nativity of Christ together with his father Joseph and the Prophet-King David, since he accompanied his family on the Flight into Egypt and lived there with the Infant Jesus, the Mother of God and Joseph. Later, he returned to Israel with them. 

        After the Ascension of the Lord, St James was the first Bishop of Jerusalem, gaining the great esteem not only of Christians, but also of Jews. He was thrown from the roof of the Jerusalem Temple because he had publicly preached to the people about the God-manhood of the Lord Jesus Christ. The Holy Apostle James is also commemorated on October 23.

      • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

        that is the churches verision there is nothing in history or the bible that supports it even in their version it says joesph had 2 sons before mary where did the other 2 come from and the sisters. there is a saying in america that when the church builds a house they put up the roof first then try to fill in the sides touche

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        The Holy Apostle James, Brother of the Lord, was the eldest son of Joseph the Betrothed from his first marriage with Solomonia (Salome).

      • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

        you still going on about a person who never existed. by the way i never once said 9 commandments, that is something you dreamed up. i figured as smart as you think are you would have looked and seen the tenth commandment was split into two commandments.i was wrong.ill make a suggestion when you jump into a swimming look to see if there is water in it first and you are wasting time with me when you come up people who never existed and facts that never happened. go back and play with your buddy satan. good bye and good luck. oh you never did tell me who was right you are the priest

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        never existed or you protestants dont want to acknowledge it. otherwise you ll all wrong!

        the Church lead by the apostles existed for centuries…your belief existed just yesterday! ahh…coming from your pastor? is there any other man with credibility to claim your belief?

        ah martin luther. aho aho aho!!!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        bingo!!! aho aho aho martin luther. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

        yeah for martin luther he knew corruption aho aho aho 

      • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

        what is funny a couple of months ago in the sun star a priest was insulting a female writer from davao who wrote a article about the brothers of jesus. he went on and on about those werent the brother of jesus but were his cousins by some other woman named mary who was a cousin of the true mary he quoted hegesippus as his authority.must have been an interesting family where jesus half brothers were also his cousins. sounds like something out of the hills of west virginia. anyway who am i supposed to believe you or priest or none of the above

      • ryan andres

        Hey, would you happen to have a link to that article? Seems like a must read. Agree, it sounds like something out of the hills of WV, or better yet, a bad episode from Jerry Springer…

      • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

        it was in the sun star about 3 months ago when they found the writtings that said jesus and  the other mayr were married. she wrote about  it then said she was told by her protestant friends that jesus had brothers. several days later a catholic expert who was a lay something or other tore into her about how it was all a lie they were jesus  cousins not brothers and said all the historians agreed with him so i got interested and researched and found where it said that matt. mark and all these ancient and modern historians all agreed they were real brothers. the womans writers name is stella estremera the person who attacked her name is ramon m, gitamodoc you can probly find them on the internet,he cited hegesippus about this obsure mary. so i read his works and found out the opposite was true..its like going to a family reunion to find a future wife

      • ryan andres

        Interestingly enough, a lot of people (myself included) believe that Jesus left a bloodline – meaning he had brothers and sisters. After all, Mary might have been a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus, but she was STILL Joseph’s wife. If they had sex and procreated after Jesus, then that’s still well within “God’s mandate” that sex is only for married people.

        But of course, once the zealots read this, they’ll try to burn me at the stake.

        Thanks for the info bud, am gonna look it up right now.

      • http://www.facebook.com/pgnelineman Daniel Nielsen

        go to google and type in james the just.speaking of being burnt at the state iwas watching the history channel over christmas. they showed a giant telescope on top of a mountain in italy it was put there by the vatican. they asked the priest in charge what was it for. they are using it to find the existence of god before the big bang. my first thought was if someone did this 300 years ago they would have burned at the stake.then i was wondering what they could find that the hubbel couldnt find. a big sign that says here i am signed god. the poors offering money is being put to good use, besause that thing had have cost millions of dollare to build

  • AgnosticLeader

    what? no tro on RH bill? i wonder why their prayers to the invisible pixie in sky are not being answered. lol… holy ridicule and blessed mockery

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS KUNG MAG SINUNGALING WAGAS NA DEMONYO!! MGA SALOT PARASITE CHURCH!! ANG PILIPINO TAO HINDI MANOK NA NAG PAPARAMI ANO AKALA NILA SA ATIN POULTRY!! NA GUS2 PAG KAKITAAN SA NEW ZEALAND MAS MARAMI BAKA SA TAO KAYA SAWA SA STEAK SA PILIPINAS MAS MARAMI BATANG HUBO SA BAKA KAYA MARAMING ISNATCHER!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      DEMON released!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

         SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO!!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        BISHOPS IS A DEMON LIAR!! SALOT SA PILIPINAS!

  • kilabot

    tro or no tro, be informed. 
    the world agenda is to make the abnormal the new normal; 
    1) dangerous drugs; 
    2) same-sex marriage; 
    3) man-beast union; 
    4) prostitution; 
    5) pedophilia; 
    6) abortion; 

    the agenda is being pushed around the world; 
    some countries have already legalized one or more of the agenda items; 
    the push is intensifying; targeting world leaders and people of influence; 
    uk, france, netherlands, spain, sweden, southafrica, argentina and canada have fallen; 
    obama, clinton and carter have fallen; the whole usa may fall soon; 
    noykapon has fallen; so do many ph politicians and academics; ph on the verge of falling; 

    everything will be redefined; 
    freedom means free condom; 
    $sodomy becomes love; bestialisex is affection; a toilet bowl becomes a sex object; 
    a junkie is chic; a prostitute is enterprising; 
    adopting the agenda is equated to progress, prosperity and advancement; 

    the idea is to make the world one big orgy; all people thinking, behaving and acting alike; 
    one world order; the reign of the great pervert; 
    there will be no more right nor wrong; there is only normal perversion; 

    time to choose which side you are on; fence-sitting not recommended. 
    do something against perversion. help rehabilitate a pervert; 

    No to perversion! 
    No to rhlaw.

  • disqusted0fu

    Is this a real en banc session now? Or it is again just from CJ Sereno? Regardless, it will be hard for anyone to put a stop on this now since the oppressing President has made his stance clear on the matter.

    • Jane Tan

      oppressing? geez… if what aquino is doing is oppression, i’d hate to think how you’d hold up to an actual oppression.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    When the RH Bill was approved in ITALY, the pope was QUIET.

    Why are the lowly bishops so NOISY?



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