PNP probes Quezon shootout

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Chief Superintendent Generoso Cerbo Jr. INQUIRER.NET FILE PHOTO

MANILA, Philippines—A fact-finding team has been created to conduct a “thorough and proper” investigation into the alleged shootout in Quezon province that led to the death of 13 people, three of whom were policemen and three others were soldiers, police said Tuesday.

Chief Superintendent Generoso Cerbo Jr. told reporters that the fact finding team was led by Senior Superintendent Federico Castro, Deputy Director of the Criminal Investigation and Detection Group (CIDG).

Castro will be assisted by officers from the PNP crime laboratory, intelligence services, firearms and explosives office, highway patrol group, and other support units, Cerbo said.

The team, which arrived in Atimonan, Quezon, on Monday, began the probe and will also investigate if the violence was linked to illegal gambling.

A reenactment of the alleged shootout that occurred on Sunday was set to be conducted Tuesday, Cerbo said.

Among those killed on Sunday was Senior Superintendent Alfredo Consemino, while two others killed were his aides.

Consemino was allegedly a partner of Victorino “Siman” Atienza, who operated a highly lucrative illegal numbers game called “jueteng”, press reports said.

Cerbo said Atienza was himself killed in the alleged shootout.

Cerbo would not confirm allegations that Consemino was a police officer on the take, but said the allegations were being investigated.

“The investigation will try to find out why these police personnel were in the company of an alleged gambling operator,” Cerbo said.

Cerbo said that the fact-finding team was formed on orders of PNP Chief Alan Purisima, directing investigating policemen to get all the facts of the case.

“His general instruction is to be thorough and proper,” Cerbo said.

“We want to find out if there had been any breach of procedure or criminal acts that were committed in this encounter,” he said.

Cerbo said the fact-finding team would also investigate claims by relatives of the dead that they were summarily killed and not slain in a gunfight.

“The official police report of our personnel on the ground said it was a shootout between the elements of a private armed group and the police and the military,” Cerbo said.

“But with this allegation of a ‘rubout’ (slang for summary execution) we have decided to create a fact finding team to get to the bottom of this incident.”

Press reports said Consemino may have been feuding with the police officer who led the team that manned the roadblock and who himself may be protecting another jueteng operator.

“We will (also) look into that particular observation,” Cerbo said.

Jueteng is an illegal lottery known to generate hundreds of millions of pesos in proceeds, some of which finance campaigns by local politicians, officials have said.

The team will also verify several reports saying there was a certain amount of money recovered from the scene, Cerbo said.

He added that in the initial report submitted to Chief Superintendent James Melad, Region 4-A Director, there was “a proper accounting of all items recovered from the scene … there was money but it was not indicated how much.”

The team will also look into the reports coming out in the media that the security personnel who conducted the checkpoint were not wearing their uniforms, a violation of the standard operating procedure, Cerbo said.

“That will also be a subject of investigation, there might be a valid explanation, but definitely they should be in uniform when conducting checkpoints,” he said.

The reports that jueteng, an illegal numbers game, was the cause of the encounter will be looked into by the fact-finding team, Cerbo added.

Once the report comes out, Cerbo said that they will file the appropriate charges against whoever would be found liable.

Corruption has long been a problem in the Philippines, including in the police and armed forces.

President Benigno Aquino, who came to office in 2010, has said fighting graft through all sectors of society is his administration’s top priority.  With Agence France-Presse

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  • tagatabas

    How far this investigation can prosper? Shootout or rubout what makes a big deal the good news is nabawasan ang mga tiwaling tao sa lipunan. Ganuon naman palagi pag may napapatay na masamang elemento ng lipunan sisigaw ang mga nakinabang na kamaganakan na over kill, rubout or summary execution. Hindi sila kabawasan sa bayan.

  • koaks2

    wala rin mangyayari sa imbestigasyon nio.

    • boypalaban

      baka meron naman…may bago silang data para sa gagawing susunod na raket….

  • rayingga

    Mabuti na rin ang nangyari kahit na rubout pa yan ang mahalaga patay na ang ilang anay ng bayan. Atleast sila-sila na ang magpapatayan walang nadadamay na matinong mamamayan.

    • boypalaban

      kaso walang napatay sa kabilang grupo ng mga anay…mas ok sana kung ubos na silang lahat…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ON7OVYELIEWW7U25MAF7XD36WU Cubano

        Huwag kang mainip Boy, tiyak na gaganti yan.  Sana magkaubusan sila.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ME73SJ2KNVTMNU4JMRMRLRYPVQ zom

    Fact finding committee para ma-white wash agad yung issue :))

    PNP = PALPAK NA PALPAK!

    • boymanok

      baka bukas wala na sa news yang issue na yan

  • Markov Chain

    hahahha, yung team leader nung checkpoint eh team leader din nung kabilang jueteng gang…..kaya cyempre yung anonymous tip galing sa kanyang gang….ang sarap talaga maging lawman at gang banger!!! 100 million!!

  • Markov Chain

    hahahha, yung team leader nung checkpoint eh team leader din nung kabilang jueteng gang…..kaya cyempre yung anonymous tip galing sa kanyang gang….ang sarap talaga maging lawman at gang banger!!! 100 million pare!!

  • boypalaban

    aalamin lang ng PNP kung sino ang mas malakas kumobra sa jueteng…doon sila maglalagay ng dagdag na …proteksiyon…este pwersa pala….

  • Markov Chain

    sana i execute din itong si Marantan….yan ay jueteng lord/gang member/drug pusher/pulis……

    • boypalaban

      …yan ay kapag wala na siyang pakinabang sa mga bossing niya….

  • josefe38

    DALAWANG MAGNANAKAW NAGPAPATAYAN TAPOS INBESTIGAHAN NG ISA DING MAGNANAKAW,…….. KAWAWANG BAYAN.

    ANG PROTECTOR NG DALAWANG GRUPO NA YAN DI LANG HANGGANG SA RANK NA COLONEL. HANGGANG GENERAL NG CRAME, CAMP AGUINALDO, AT PALASYO.

    • boymanok

       siguradong magbubulag-bulagan din ang palasyo dyan

  • johnlordphilip

    If “RUB-OUT” angle is being considered, why is it that the CHR is not including in the FACT-FINDING team? …just for SHOW or just to WHITE-WASH the WHITE-WASH?

  • $26606290

    Dapat lahat ng checkpoints may video cam , CCTV, o go pro. Mura an Lang ngayon yan.
    Matagal na dapat a SOP to…..Kung wala Lang kayong tinatago.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

      ang dapat gawin ay iconfiscate lahat ang cellphone ng mga sundalo sa check point.  segurado ako na iyong ibang sundalo ay vienivideo ang pangyayari

  • iping2sison

    The shootout validated the claim that PNP is the coddler of jueteng operators. PNP’s own investigation will result to whitewash only.

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    Ano raw?

    CIDG to investigate PNP rub-out?

    CIDG also report to the PNP Chief.

    Conflict of interest.

    Bakit hindi na lang maging basehan ang investigation ni CHR Eta Rosales?

    Si Eta Rosales din ang nagsabing sinungaling si DOJ Leila de Lima, dahil pinipilit ni De Lima na nasawi sa crossfire ang botanist na si Leonard Co pero wala naman enkwentrong naganap.

  • brutsador

    Kung gusto talaga ng goberyno mawala ang jueteng bakit hindi gamitin ang BIR at AMLAC para kasohan ang mga Gambling Lords , Ginawa nila ito kay Corona, para atang selective ang pag sugpo sa corruption . Karamihan kase ng mga Gambling Lords malapit kay Uncle Peping, Yung Jueteng Lord ng Quezon malapit ito kay Uncle Peping kaya takot ang PNP at si Sec. Roxas na ibulgar kung sino ito. Lagi to sa Las Vgeas pag may laban si pacman laging meron kasama mga PNP officials at ang lakas mag sugal . Meron naman listahan ang DILG ng lahat ng mga Gambling Lords. Sec Roxas gamitin mo na ang BIR at AMLAC .

    • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

      Tama parekoy. Hindi naman lahat ng pera sa jueteng in cold cash. May iba pa nga dyan naka offshore account. Baka mabuking si Tito Babalu.

    • Komen To

      Kaso hindi talaga gusto, obvious ba? Paulit ulit na yan. Pustahan, sa kampanya para eleksyon, paramihan sila ng accomplishments. Lahat magagaling

  • http://www.ninoyandcory.gov.ph/ It’s No Time To Doubt Now

    Kuratong Baleleng 2.0

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    16 Provinces classified by DILG Sec. Mar Roxas as hotspots:

    Abra
    Pangasinan
    Ilocos Sur
    La Union
    Cagayan
    Pampanga
    Nueva Ecija
    Batangas
    Cavite
    Masbate
    Samar
    Misamis Occidental
    Maguindanao
    Lanao del Sur
    Basilan

    Bakit wala sa hotspots ang Quezon? Hindi pa ba hotspot ang Quezon sa ratratan na naganap? Nagbubulag-bulagan kasi itong inutil na DILG Sec. Mar Roxas.

    • dodong1

      hotspot sa election yata ang binabanggit nya hindi sa jueteng..

    • tarikan

      Palitan na yan si Mar Roxas ni Jojo Binay sa DILG. Kita mo sa Makati walang jueteng, kurapsyon laang. Photogenic pa si Rambotito, hwag laang masyadong pulbusan sa tv kasi nagiging kulay talong. 

      • Komen To

        Langhiya ka niyari mo mga tanim kong talong, makikinis balat nyan. Pede pa mukha syang pang shake rattle and roll

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    Sabi ni Mar Roxas wala ng jueteng.

    Sabi ni Mar Roxas bumaba ang kriminalidad.

    Sabi ni Mar Roxas mas may tiwala ang taong bayan ngayon sa PNP.

    Sabi ni Mar Roxas walang politika sa PNP.

    Sabi ng taong bayan, sinungaling si Mar Roxas.

    Si Mar Roxas na ang pinakasinungaling na Amarlayer.

    • dodong1

      Sabi ni Roxas Binobola ko Kayo

      Sabi ni Roxas Tanga na lang ang maniniwala sa akin

      Sabi ni Roxas utos to ni Korina na sabihan ko sa inyo

  • koolkid_inthehouse

    Can you trust a PNP fact finding committee?
    Form an independent civilian committee everytime police shooting is involve not a police themselve.  This country is so dumb.

  • garcia677

    A team from Dilg Sec Roxas should also be a part of this investigation to purely avoid whitewash because whether we like it or not, suspicion and doubt of the result is there to if the victims linked to illegal gambling are absolved considering the seriousness of the reports that Sr. Supt. Consemino and Jueteng lord atienza are friends.

    In addition that this DILG team shall likewise be abreast of true circumstances why Jueteng still flourishes despite the directive of Aquino and Roxas that it be eradicated by the police

    • tarikan

      Hindi matitigil yang jueteng, Pre, papuputulan ko ng kaunti ang aking tarug_O sa totoo laang. Hangga’t may mga tangang mananaya tuloy ang jueteng. Ipabaril nating lahat ng mananaya kung hindi tigil yang jueteng at the same time mababawasan pa ang mahihirap. Ang matitira halos mayayaman haha.

  • $16638896

    ganito lang yan Atienza-Consemino vs Marantan and the so called karibal sa jueteng operation ni Atienza heheh ayos tong mga ito. gumagawa ng kalokohan at the expense of taxpayers money.

  • dodong1

    A fact-finding team has been created to conduct a “thorough and proper” investigation into the alleged shootout in Quezon province that led to the death of 13 people, three of whom were policemen and three others were soldiers, police said Tuesday. THERE’S NO NEED ALAM NATIN LAHAT SILA AY SANGKOT SA JUETENG…SAYANG LANG ANG ORAS NINYOO..

  • tanga_hanga_ni_abnoy

    sana pang Darwin Awards ang nangyari

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3UAABFPUE5ZKBXOAGLWL6POGWU joel genese

    Sa Quezon Province na ba ang assignment ni Marantan?

  • dodong1

    TANUNGIN NA LANG KAYA NG OPINION NI CHAVIT??

  • josefe38

    DAPAT NGA PATI SI PURISIMA ISAMA NA RIN SA INBESTIGAHAN. SA KANYANG PANUNUMPA PAG UPO BILANG PNP CHIEF, ANG LINAW NG INSTRUCTION NI ROXAS SA KANYA. ” STRIKE HARD VS. JUETENG OPERATION”. 

    KUMUKAT MUKAT MARINIG NALANG NATIN ANG PANGALAN NI PURISIMA HINDI DAHIL NAPATIGIL ANG JUETENG BAGKUS BALITA NG TANDA NG PAMAMAYAGPAG PA DIN NG JUETENG. 

  • efriend

    Millions of pesos of taxpayers’ money is spent for intelligence gathering.  Didn’t they identify these PNP officers’ involvement in jueteng from the very beginning?

    • Mel

      They are still gathering “intelligence”, wala kasi sila.

      • indiots

        baka ngayon pa lang sila nagiging intelligent he he he

    • Komen To

      Even if you spend all the money of the government for intelligence, if they don’t have the IQ, nothing good will come out. Or maybe the funds go to the stomach, not to the brains

  • Karabkatab

    5:00 AM meron PNP checkpoint sa aming bayan.  Sinita ba naman ako lulan ako sa aking MTB for my early morning exercise.  Bakit ka walang ilaw? Taas ng boses, nakakatakot si SPO.  Hayaan mo tsip bukas, magdadala na ako ng flashlight at mag da jog na lang ako.  Anak ng tinapa naman itong ating mga PNP, kulang sa vitamina ang kokoti.

    • boypalaban

      baka natorotot yang si SPO kaya may trauma/phobia…

    • marionics

      kulang ng seminar yan pre he he

      • Karabkatab

        Hahaha… e se seminar sya pre ni kumare mong simeona next time…

      • marionics

        baka naman kasi ibang “headlights” ang hinahanap ni SPO pre he he

      • Karabkatab

        malamang pre, bombilla ata hanap ni spo.

      • indiots

        sobra kamu sa seminar… kita mo ang mga euro generals? sa ibang bansa pre ang seminar…

    • tarikan

      Pre, maitanong ko, ano ba yang MTB, mountain bike? Kung mountain bike nga yan eh dapat talaga may ilaw ka tulad din ng regular vehicle kung ang panahon ay madalim. You need to see and be seen in the dark for your own safety. Hwag mong sisihin si SPO, instead be thankful he is after your welfare. Maidagdag ko rito, sa Pinas ba talagang ganyan na ang mga jeepney? Madaling araw pa o kaya takip silim na ayaw pa magsindi ng head lights. Ano ba nagtitipid ng bateria? Is this because most jeepney drivers are under-educated or idiots? Hindi nila alam na very unsafe yung ginagawa nila? Idiots nga kaya hindi alam hehehe.

      • Karabkatab

        MTB nga pre, mountain bike. 5 am dito sa pinas ay maliwanag na yan pre di mo na kailangan ng ilaw. blinkers sa likod yes, and for serious bikers, they use lamp attached to their head gears.  Hindi ko naman sinisisi si SPO pre, astig lang sya maka sita, eh nag promise nga ako na next day mag jog na lang ako at flashlight ang dadalhin ko.  Tama ka dyan sa mga jeepney hindi gumagamit ng ilaw. YAN ang dapat hinuhuli ni SPO… BTW, mga bikers, wag lalabas kapag wala pang araw, mahirap na. Maraming agaw bike gang sa daan… YAN ang dapat tutukan ni SPO, tariks., mga agaw bike gang…

      • GustoKoHappyKa

        isang pang delikado eh yung mga jeep na isa lang ang headlight.. nagtitipid daw sa “gasolina” at isa lang ang ginagamit na ilaw… kaya minsan akala mo motor lang ang kasalubong ..jeep pala bigla nalang bubulaga

    • GustoKoHappyKa

      concern lang ata sayo si SPO…

  • jikanhinia123

    The buddy buddy system in the PNP is as strong as an ox. It can’t be denied of its existence because it had remained to be a culture or a way of life in the police force worldwide. The presence of the buddy-buddy system shall be the basis for Roxas as the 2nd highest superior of the PNP to form an impartial civilian team from his Office to be hands on in the monitoring and investigation of this case as a shield to any future repercussions arising from a wishywashy outcome of the investigation of the PNP.

    This action of Roxas hinges on prevention is better than cure

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q3QGG5QHBLRMZTIYWUFURY6J2E Night

    naniniwala ako sa statement na eto ng Pulis……

    KASI UTO UTO AKO TULAD NINYO LAHAT!!! mga uto uto… niwala na agad tayo…. tago lang nila yan kasi dumi nila yan

  • asarin

    i believe that about 75% of policemen are corrupt! or the percentage is even higher?

  • tarikan

    If this encounter/killings is all about feuding jueteng interests, we don’t mind a bit. You bad guys including police/military officers could kill each other until kingdom come for all we care. Hala mag-ubusan kayo ng lahi, dapat laang.

  • indiots

    sa kwento ni jose rizal, ang mga kriminal na yan parang mga gamugamo. alam ng masusunog, sumusuong pa rin sa apoy…. ngayong nasunog, kasalanan pa ng apoy….

  • indiots

    ilang years mula ng mga exposes sa senado ng jueting nila zandra cam, anon kayang nangyari? ang daming matatalino… walang ginawa back to zero. pampilo ano na po?

  • indiots

    ah may nangyari naman… napatay lang ang witness he he he

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Jane Deasis Villena

    Since the people involve in the killing were PNP themselves,  this PNP should not be allowed to investigate.  Even before the investigation,  Cerbo already concluded that his men were just doing their job so we know already what will be the findings of the investigation of the PNP.  A neutral body should be formed composed of lawyers, men from the NBI, NGOs just like the human rights.  No stone should be left unturned to get to the heart of the matter and the real culprits must be indentified and punish severely whoever they are.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002398216749 Jason Ladd

     That will also be a subject of investigation, there might be a valid
    explanation, but definitely they should be in uniform when conducting
    checkpoints,” he said.

    Sirs, there could be no valid explanation..the procedures in manning a checkpoint is crystal clear!!! “They all must be in inform..Looks like it’s going to be another whitewash case, the same as the kuratong baleleng shootout. You people sucks..It’s too obvious!!!

  • Rio Legaspi

    same old story…then what? this is ridiculous and a sign of lawlessness in the land. security issue is in question….

  • kypros

    dapat kasi irequire na ng gobyerno na lagyan ng cctv bawat check point para pag may ganyang insidente o anumang insidente madali ang imbestigasyon

    • Komen To

      This is a very sound suggestion. Let’s all write and repeat this. Agree 100% kypros

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

    Sir,Boooo…..

  • impending_raptor

    sino pa iimbestigan nyo , eh patay na po silang lahat  “dead men no tell tales”. wala rin mangyayari sa investigation nyo sayang lang pera ng taong bayan. PNP isa sa PINAKA corrupt at pupol sa buong mundo

    • Komen To

      Bakit kasi hindi na lang ginamit yung second hand na helicopter na binayaran ng brand new para di na na-check point.

  • Rod Laver

    Walang shoot out Gen. Cerbo. Paano makikipagbarilan yung mga nasa loob ng Montero e ang nagsisiksikan sila at ang lalaking mama nung mga yun? Paano sila makikipagbarilan ng maayos? At kung yung claim ni Gen. James Melad na guns-for-hire ang mga naka-engkwentro nina Col. Hansel Marantan e malabo ding paniwalaan kasi kung palaban yung mga nasa loob ng Montero, hindi titigil yung sasakyan at ang first casualty si Col. Marantan kasi siya daw ang unang lumapit at hindi sana sa braso at paa ang kanyang tama kundi sa ulo o dibdib. Hindi naman siguro tolongges bumaril yung nasa loob diba?

    Iprisenta nyo muna ang mga basyo ng bala sa loob ng Montero para kapani-paniwalang may shoot out. At saka wala pa yatang resulta sa paraffin test kung positive sa powder burns ang mga nakasakay sa Montero, paano magkakaroon ng shootou?

    • Komen To

      Talagang nakapagtataka. Ang daming tanong at palusot na nangyayari

      • basyong

        isang bagay lang ang pwedeng sumagot nito.ang magnanakaw galit sa kapwa magnanakaw.hehehehehe

  • freeview

    niratrat…..butas butas ng bala..tipong ala dapat mabuhay..what do u make of that?

  • dani77777

    PNP, mga kurakots in uniform. Mga bata pa at bagong pasok, pera na ang inatupag.

    Sila pa man din ang inatasan ng batas upang ipagtanggol ang lipunan laban sa kriminalidad, ngunit sila ang unang lumalabag.

    Masisisi niyo ba kung walang paggalang ang mga tao sa inyo?

    Mga bwesit.

  • arao_liwanag

    The Philippines has the lowest crime incidence in the world committed by civilian despite being one of the countries with the highest crime rate. 

    Why and How? Because the armed services: Military, Police, and  paramilitary units are the one committing the crimes of all sorts. They are they criminals, they investigate their crime themselves, and cover it up, and acquit themselves and Aquino agree.

    The most peaceful country indeed, comparable to the kind of peace in the cemetery. They kind of peace the  AQUINO government wanted for the country.

    • AllaMo

      You may not know it. But, it is the marcos-enrile martial law that instituted this sort of peace and order. (They would give the order. And, their perceived enemies would disappear in pieces). Since, not one malefactor has ever been punished, the rot has festered. In fact, all the rot has come back with a vengeance: Witness the acceptance of the marcoses and enrile now.

      • Komen To

        Yes, they started it all, but shouldn’t the Filipinos have morally changed since EDSA 1 ? Or worst happened after that time? I remember right after Martial Law, most trouble places were peaceful. Just like after EDSA 1, government services were great and BIR was even giving tax refunds by mail which you can withdraw in any bank. After a short while, the wolves are back with even greater strength. The new PNP Chief now has the opportunity to effect change

  • rouelcalzita

    Whatever it’s rubout or shoot out, we have to rejoice that they got killed. So, that would not be spread their evil activities. And to the opposing party they are smarter. And vice versa in the near future.
    It’s very clear that those killed were crook people, and it’s good to put them on rest.
    My question is who would be the authority to check at all checkpoints to ensure that they have to wear proper uniform and following the standard operating procedure. Since checkpoints at night mostly they are not wearing proper uniform.

    • Komen To

      Much as I hate to agree, but you are right, this encounter has reduced the bad elements, if the report is true

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RYJTO7WZU5UOBJZM4AX4WMOVH4 nayve

    money maybe the root .

  • Komen To

    Looks like PNP is going to have 2013 as their year of investigation. When will we have real peace and order? And to think, some sectors are insinuating for a total gun ban? How can the people protect themselves from erring cops, if these report involving officers is true?

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    Tapos na ang boksing.

    Mahirap i-whitewash ang rub-out na ito.

    Kasi pati yung environmentalist na si Tirso “Jun” Pada Lontok Jr pinatay nila.

    4th or 5th degree cousin ni Dept of Agriculture Sec Procy Alacala pala si Jun Luntok.

    Certified environmentalist si Jun Luntok ng kumunidad niya.

    At kilala pala sya sa area ng Mt. Banahaw.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GRJCBEOUL25WWKSSM3JV7IFFII syaoransangel

      so bakit napasama siya dun sa mga huweteng people? anong klaseng environment ang pinapangalagaan niya?

      • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

        Yan ang hindi masasagot ni Jun Luntok, dahil pinatay na siya ng PNP. Dead men tell no tales. Mukang mainit ang loob mo sa rub-out angle ah.

  • DarkSideOfTheMoon2

    kung lahat ng sundalo nasa barracks…..lahat ng pulis nagkakape lang sa presinto…maggiging tahimik ang pilipinas at UUNLAd ng husto….

  • freeview

    Si Don Ramon daw mastermind niyan..gamblng lord

  • LucianoChing

    Why is Pnoy still mum on this shootout and or rubout until now?
    This is no ordinary incident…..Why o why? Remember that Pnoy said jueteng is not his priority…
    Jueteng war is now ongoing and Pnoy might be on the take too or he just want those involve to self-destruct….

  • roelca20

    Ke rub-out o shootout mainam na rin yan at nababawasan ang mga kriminal. Kung hindi mga kriminal yan ano ginagawa nila pari-pariho sa convoy hindi naman sila mag-kakamag anak, mag-babarkada @ hindi rin mag-kakasama-sa trabaho. Galing sa mag-kakaibang lugar sila? Anu ang dahilan at mag-kakasama sila sa convoy ng bagong SUV na walang plate number? Saan sila papunta at ano ang pakay bakit maraming baril silang dala? Yan ang dapat na tanong. Hindi yong rub-out angle agad.

  • $14141131

    I can’t understand why the windows are closed if the dead criminals decided to shoot it out with the composite check point. If some are policemen and military people, doors could be open and dead men could be found outside. Some very valuable reasons must caused the shootout. 

  • speedstream2

    Will this incident turn out to be like similar cases in the past: dead men tell no tales?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BL2GYU35SO6HTJUEAUTXS3QFYM George Lapulapu

    ..and ano ngayon ang crime ng mga namatay???

    ..it was an ambush..no more no less. malas lang ng nag ambush e may kasama pala na iba…

    PNP utak pulbura kasi e…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GRVAJUYIO6PRIAPQHNE6MYKNEQ Lando

    Massacre. Alleged involvement in jueteng is not a reason to kill these people in cold blood…….eh lahat ng mayor at congressman sa southern luzon involve sa jueteng so pwede na rin sila patayin?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GRVAJUYIO6PRIAPQHNE6MYKNEQ Lando

    and the culprit is marantan also involve in jueteng.

  • kapatad

    Dapat imbitahan ang imbistigahin ung nagbigay ng inelligence report. sino ba ang kasama ng mga suspects. Ano ang kanilang mga profile. Sila b ay mga may mga record talaga. Ano ang dala nilang sasakyan. Sana sinundan na sila mula sa point of origin at updated ang in-charge. At kung nakatunog ang mga suspect at tumakbo, doon pa lang sila maglaltag ng checkpoint/cordon para sa ganon maiwasan ang mga suspecion sa police operations nila.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3CF3PXUVL4BSYTRU2R362LFUPE SolidBasketball

     o derogatory record

    Mabilin said an investigation into Consemino’s background yielded nothing that could link him to any criminal group.

    “We’ve checked all his records, even from our counterintelligence
    unit, but there was no derogatory report found against [him],” Mabilin
    said. “I assume he has not been involved in any criminal activity. I
    also know the guy,” he added.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3CF3PXUVL4BSYTRU2R362LFUPE SolidBasketball

    nakapark sa gilid ang dalawang sasakyan at sarado ang mga bintana…… obvious massacre

  • basyong

    kailangan pa bang imbestigahan yan e massacre at overkill ang ginawa ng mga PNP.labanan ng mga kawatan kaya sila sila nagpapatayan.kulang yung porsiyento ng isa kaya naasar ayun nirapido sa ulo lahat.

  • uugodugod

    mmmm

  • uugodugod

    ……

  • TEAM PNOY

    Daming shootout sa adminstration na ito, ewan ko lang kong bakit.
    May luneta shootout, dami namatay, pulis ang involved dito.

    May cavite shootout, dami namatay, foolish naman and involved dito.

    May quezon shoot-out, dami namatay din, pulis ang involved dito.

    Sa SC, pwede din mag ka shootout kasi karamihan ng justices may sukbit na baril habang nag hearing. Parang GI Joe and GI jane kung mag hearing, naka tiger look pa lahat. 

    Sa Congreso, pwede din mag ka shootout dyan. Bukod sa mga congresita de baril, ang daming bodyguards na naka baril din. Lagot kayo pag nagalit si meriam. Sharpshooter yan. 

    Ang inaanbangan ko ay malacanang shootout, it is a matter of time, pag may bata na stress dyan, naku delicado kasi may baril yon at nag champion pa. Tumba kayong lahat!

    Suggestion: wag patambay tambay dyan sa palacio kasi baka may mag amok!

    • wawa2172

       Your post is funny but has some point. Remember the Inquirer headline of PNoy in a shooting target position with his 9mm (or 45) and so do is Laila de Lima who seems to be telling anyone to make my day. The PNP and AFP personnel are challenge, if PNoy can fire cans so do are his soldiers. It seems that as shown in the video on tv news broadcast that the Mitsubishi Montero ay walang bukas na bintana at tinadtad ito nang bala. I guess the passengers were killed in a rubout.

      • TEAM PNOY

        Looking at the pictures, most doors are close and windows up and with peppered bullet holes. It can look like a rubout. But there is a possibility that those doors were open at the time of the shootout wherein some men jumped out of the car while engaging in firefight. CSI should focus on how many doors were open and how many were close.

        What is very interesting to note is that most of those killed carry short arm – 0.45 cal pistol with only two long-arms = one M!6 and one M14, With my limited knowledge about guns, if I carry a short semi-auto pistol and the checkpoint authorities have long arms – automatic, and they are in a vantage position, I will not fire and I will surrender. 

        The regular carrying capacity of a Montero is about 8 including the driver. So, 13 people in two Monteros would be very tight for the 13 people to manuever in a firefight. The two long firearms cannot be used effectively. Just imagine the noise it is going to create if they are going to fire from inside the SUV. 13 people in two monteros are just plain sitting ducks for practice shooting.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5UOZM4PWIDKO7G64HL3PPMXUTM Constantine

    I am more inclined to believe the theory that this is a gun for hire team targeting high net worth individuals including businessmen and politicians. The military intelligence officers and police officers have no business whatsoever going around together with the civilians. How on earth are they together? The more that I now believe the gun for hire angle.  

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VY25ZOHU3FJFFX6CYSH5W4AX3I sugbu

      Security Agency partner iyong dalawa doon..basahin mo ayon sa iba ibang news..E,ano kung protector din siya ng Gambling Lord,,katwiran na ba iyon para i massacre ? Dapat kinasuhan muna or naglabas ng warrant of arrest kung talagang idadaan sa proper investigation.

  • Your_King

    The shady will be investigating the shady. How will they ever figure things out? Not all is corruption but there are enough corrupts that will mess everything up. ‘Jueteng’…PNP…and many others issues and departments continued to be ignored by Aquino. It could be because the total investigation of issues and departments will expose some of Aquino’s KKK being involved.

  • uugodugod

    ayon sa nga kamaganak ni vic siman siya ay papunta ng bicol para magtayo ng branch ng STL at may mga kasama  siya na mga kaibigan at mga alalay, yun daw ang totoo nuon sangayon sa talks in the street

  • indiosbravos2002

    Rubout at all angles. I am inclined to believe that Consemino is a shady police officer who is in cahoots with Siman Atienza on his jueteng operations. However, if there was money involved alledgely being transported by the group to the tune of 30M or 100M (how they fit that on the Montero aport filled with people is a puzzle). There is indeed a bigger story here. Somebody got rich nstantly and the operations is all about robbery and murder and not about serving justice. Funny how the team who brought down the Consemino/Atienza group got hailed as heroes last Sunday became part of the villains come Tuesday.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/X2U4X42BZTUHPWMP2UKFP5QWMU LucasPacascas

      Sa account nung dzMM Radyo Patrol correspondent, may isang victim na nakabulagta malapit sa kalsada. May baril din na malapit sa kanya at ang bukas lang na pinto nung isa sa dalawang Montero ay yung right passenger side. Posibleng nahulog yung nakabugta. Pero ang nakita nung correspondent na bukas ay yung likod na pintuan ng Montero at may maletang ibinaba. Nasaan na yung maleta? Posibleng duon sa maleta nakalagay yung pera, kung meron man. Shootout? No. Rubout yes. Meron ba namang makikipagbarilan na sarado ang mga bintana ng sasakyan? At kung shootout ang nangyari, hindi nakapark nga maayos yung dalawang sasakyan.

  • batangsulpok

    Pustahan tayo na walang mangyayari sa imbestigasyon dahil kaniya-kaniyang takipan ng baho sila kaya makaraan ang dalawa o tatlong Linggo, wala na sa balita kaya tuloy na naman ang kurakot nila lalo na itong si Marantan na siguradong malalakas ang padrino sa PNP.

  • kalikasanipagtanggol

    Yung title lang ng mission nila nakakatawa na “fact finding”……….

  • superpilipinas

    I’m not going to have confidence in this investigation. Investigation should be done at least by another agency like NBI.

    Even with NBI, I don’t have very high confidence but at least some than PNP investigating its own.

    The fact already points that it was not able to police itself. Our government has always been in denial. Nobody has the courage.

    If it were up to me, the Philippines should have an elite group solely tasked to covertly discover erring and corrupt officials. It should be patterned to Hongkong’s ICAC which is prestigiously known to catch top officials and masterminds. But again, obviously, the corrupt would not want to have themselves arrested by setting up something like that. 

  • EdsonArantesDoNascimiento

    Huwag na tayong maglokohan at magpaulol sa mga pulis pulpol na ito.Demonyo inemembestigahan mga kapwa demonyo!!!!Lokohan lang ang lahat na yan!!!!Parepareho lang ang mga polis patolo na yan,mga demonyo silang lahat!!!!No change for this bunch of SOB!!!!

  • txtman

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    • http://profile.yahoo.com/A5CN52KKTWUHFZJZCWGMAIGZJM Gandalf

      Eff off, and spew your ignorance elsewhere.

  • txtman

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    SO

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  • disqusted0fu

    These guys would not rat on their own people, because the others might retaliate and things will get messier.

    How can Pnoy fight graft in all sectors of society when it is his kkk who is leading some of those sectors?!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GTVNMZR22PGMS55WQPIJTYB4IY Jaime

    This might help,  find the third SUV!!!

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