Lawmakers revive long-pending bills on gun control

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Speaker Feliciano Belmonte Jr. said the proposal of a gun ban that would only allow members of the police and the military to be armed in public “is still only an ideal as long as illegal firearms proliferate.” INQUIRER FILE PHOTO

Lawmakers are dusting off long-pending bills after bullets from celebratory gunfire on New Year’s Eve killed two children and the deadly random shooting of eight people by a drug-crazed gunman sparked fresh debates on the need for gun control, putting more teeth in law enforcement and concerns that civilians will be defenseless against armed criminals.

In fact, the House of Representatives passed on final reading last year a bill seeking a comprehensive regulation of firearms, light weapons and ammunition, spelling out the requirements for those seeking to acquire a gun and imposing harsher penalties on the use of unlicensed firearms.

The bill provides the maximum penalty of reclusion perpetua, or life imprisonment, for  those who unlawfully acquire or possess firearms or light weapons.

Speaker Feliciano Belmonte Jr. said the proposal of a gun ban that would only allow members of the police and the military to be armed in public “is still only an ideal as long as illegal firearms proliferate.”

The House bill was later transmitted to the Senate, where it has languished since, along with other similar measures.

Lacson bill

On Monday, Sen. Panfilo Lacson said he would “modify” a bill he filed on firearms regulation so civilians would no longer be given permits to carry firearms outside their residence.

“Anyone seen with a firearm will be presumed as a bad element without doubt and therefore must be reported to authorities,” he said of his new proposal.

“When this happens, a lot of lives can be saved and [it would have] a big positive impact on the country’s peace and order,” he added in a text message.

There is a “misplaced perception that anyone with a firearm tucked in his waist must be a police or law enforcement officer,” Lacson said.

Once signed into law, the measure would at least  “reverse” this, said the senator who is a former director general of the Philippine National Police.

“I was actually headed in this policy direction when I was [PNP chief], when I limited the issuance of permits to carry firearms outside the residence and under very strict guidelines,” he said of  Senate Bill No. 2993, which seeks to provide a comprehensive law on firearms, light weapons and ammunition.

Lacson said the bill would require civilians to keep licensed firearms “in a vault inside their homes when unattended.”

Serious doubts

On New Year’s Eve, a 4-year-old boy was accidentally killed by a neighbor brandishing a homemade gun in Mandaluyong City, and in Caloocan City, a 7-year-old girl who was hit in the head by a stray bullet died two days later.

In Kawit, Cavite province, an unemployed man allegedly taking drugs and drinking liquor shot dead eight neighbors with a .45 cal. pistol on Friday.

Sen. Franklin Drilon admitted he favored a gun ban “but given the state of our law enforcement, I have very serious doubts about its effectiveness.”

Senate Majority Leader Vicente Sotto III said the gun ban clamor was a “knee-jerk reaction” to last week’s killings. Once implemented, the total gun ban could “only exacerbate the already grave peace and order problem in our country,” he said.

“Responsible gun owners are no match against heavily armed criminal elements who authorities could not seem to confront despite [their] superior armory,” Sotto warned.

If a total gun ban is in place, he said, “citizens would be at the mercy of the criminal elements with high-powered guns at their disposal.”

Undermanned PNP

“A gunless society is a problem-solution mismatch. It’s not about the existence of firearms. It’s about the peacekeeping forces not doing their jobs.” fumed Sen. Ramon “Bong” Revilla Jr.

Revilla noted that as it is, the undermanned PNP cannot cover the entire country.

“Ideally, there should at least be one policeman for every 500 citizens. However, statistics show that in 2012, we only have one for every 622 citizens. This shows that the number of our policemen is not enough to protect individual citizens,” he warned.

Sen. Loren Legarda sounded like a lone voice in the wilderness, insisting that a “gunless society” is better than one where citizens stock firearms out of fear. She said only members of the military and the police should bear firearms and use these judiciously.

Sen. Joker Arroyo feared that due to the clamor for a total gun ban, the next step would be a revival of proposals to re-impose the death penalty. “Punishment is not the deterrent.  It is law enforcement,” Arroyo maintained.

Sen. Francis Escudero said capital punishment “will not stop miscreants from carrying out their crimes.”

“I have always  said that it is still the certainty of punishment, not the severity, that will deter crimes,” said Escudero, chairman of the Senate human rights committee.

Unregistered guns

Sen. Gregorio Honasan II, chair of the committee on public order, said the Senate would push for life imprisonment for manufacturers, smugglers and distributors of illegal guns and  12-year jail time for possession of unregistered guns.

He found “disturbing”  PNP data which  showed that there were 600,000 to 800,000 registered guns  and an equivalent number of unregistered guns in the Philippines.

“This means  that half of all the guns out there are illegal and could be used for criminal activities,” Honasan said. “We have to come up with a final inventory in order to make long-term plans on how to address this situation.”

Ang Kapatiran, a political party advocating a “gunless society,” is pushing its bill that would only allow the police, the military, and those engaged in security matters to carry firearms in public places. The measure would make the mere carrying of a gun in public a criminal offense.

The watchdog group Volunteers against Crime and Corruption yesterday declared that it was against disarming civilians.

“The government can hardly protect its citizens from these criminals, it is better off to leave the responsible gun owners armed,” said the group’s head, Dante Jimenez, whose brother was killed allegedly by a drug syndicate in 1990. With reports from Gil C. Cabacungan, Noli A. Ermitanio and Marlon Ramos

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  • opinyonlangpo

    Nice to know that most if not all of the lawmakers own a gun, a total gun ban will not go through.

  • timberlakers

     A ‘Gunless” society sounds good to me. I do think that it’s possible provided na maghigpit talaga talaga tayo dito.

    • risamyloves

      Strict implementation lang katapat nito. Diba?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UTWQIZQ7IDMS6RJMMHCD4SJNB4 Arnel

    dapat naman kc tlaga na yung mga pulis lang na matataas ang position and pwede meron nito at taasan nila ang parusa sa mga lalabag nito.

  • risamyloves

    Condolence sa family ni Nicole plus yung mga victims nung shooting sa Cavite. Sana maging leksyon na ito para sa ting lahat. Gusto pa ba natin ng baril? Hindi na dapat!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BFCWI7BMCPWFGFLIZLV44EXO2Q Mae

    Heavier punishment for them…. Para matakot sila….

    • Facilitator1

      Sabi nga ni Sen Escudero, “its not the SEVERITY of punishment but the CERTAINTY of punishment that will DETER crimes…”…PEACE

      • Guest

        Gun control is NOT crime control. It is citizen control. If you want Peace, prepare for war. Unless, of course, you want to be a sitting duck victim and a refugee in a Police State.

      • Facilitator1

        Valid ang comments mo. Gun Control is really controlling the citizenry.

        If and when, GUN CONTROL becomes a LAW. Susundin kaya ito ng mga CRIMINALS, REBELS (either the NPAs or MNLF or the likes), and pati na ang mga CORRUPT government officials (either elected or not)?

        Kawawa naman si Juan dela Cruz. Baka may maging version tayo ng  “KILLING FIELDS or HOLOCAUST”  sa bayan natin. Sa ngayon pa lang, PALPAK na ang PNP sa mga”RIDING in TANDEM”. What more kung alam ng mga lawless elements na EASY PREY si Juan/Juana dela Cruz…

  • john clark

    Alll those bills belong in one place a GARBAGE CAN! http-www-youtube-com-watch?v=g0O3B7N848o Jessie Ventura A former Navy seal was in our country when Marcos declared MARTIAL LAW he did the same thing as these people… The Difference being these politicians and gunless society would like the president gone and they would want to grab power, the difference between these clowns and Marcos… Marcos is One Tyrant… These are HUNDREDS petty tyrants and as an added bonus Ventura makes Piers Morgan look like a fool!. Please remember that Aguinaldo and Bonfiacio has fought for our Freedom with Guns and Swords… It is our generations duty to protect that right. Rizal is all good and fine if you WANT to DIE a Martryr… Guns may not bring life but it can Protect life!

  • Garote

    Why don’t the bishops, Pimentel, Tanada, Magsaysay call for a total mining ban. Mining has destroyed more lives in hundreds of thousands than private-owned guns could possibly destroy. Or why not call for a total ban of private armies instead, that would be much better. We will be abolishing the feudal system of warlords like the Ampatuans. However, much of my fear is if there will be a motor-vehicle causing the death of 20 or more pedestrians, the bishops would then be calling for a total motor-vehicle ban. We would be without cars or public utilities to ferry us to work and to mass. Or if somebody would use a fork to kill 20 or more bystanders, Pimentel, Tanada, Magsaysay will call for “fork ban,” we will be eating without a fork, using only a spoon.

  • john clark

    Define Irony!… Gringo Honasan was a rebel, tried to overthrow the Presidents Mother, now wants guns taken away from civilians and 12 year sentence for people with illegal guns who are NOT YET EVEN CONFIRMED CRIMINALS mere posession, has he forgotten than when he was a rebel if found he would have to serve 12 years, has anyone forgotten he was the man who’s goons put the bullet in our Presidents neck? What is he doing? If he becomes President he will declare Martial law and install himself as a Dictator like what he wanted when he tried to overthrow Cory Aquino… PEOPLE HE IS SET FOR REELECTION in 2013… If you value your freedom… You know what to do!

  • Garo Ungaro

    How can we really ban the guns?… When those authorized, allowed, permitted to use and carry guns to protect and secure the safety of the society are the one killing each other…? Again, Juan de la Cruz is caught in the crossfire…Respect for the Law, Respect for the citizenry…is not there?…Many of us wants to live above the Law.That’s why it hard to ban anything?…Freedom to us means a lot. We don’t even understand the meaning of the word ” FREEDOM?”…to us freedom is regardless of the consequences. To most of us GUNS like MONEY are power. to live in exist in a society that interpretation of the rule of Law is in the barrel of the guns and the Money…it will take a leader with maybe (3) BALLS to implement this…???

  • 4knights

    Back to basics. Less than three (3) per cent of crimes with the use of firearms involve LICENSED firearms. Included is the legitimate use by way of self-defense and defense of property. Imposing total gun ban leaves more than ninety seven (97) per cent of crimes involving UNLICENSED firearms. Now, where does the problem lies? Is it with guns or law enforcement?
    Let’s be RATIONAL not EMOTIONAL.

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

       Agreed.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KAAEZZZL7OMMZ5K4KCFETADLSM jerome

       Thats true, well for some reason also there are times that a licensed firearm is used illegally but the percentage is much lower than those unlicensed one.

  • $37644997

    You can’t really ban the guns but you can ban the “nuts”afp,police or otherwise.Drug addicts and users are potential criminals/trigger happy people.

  • Mamang Pulis

    fresh soundbite for politicos traveling around your locality in convoys full of armed escorts….why?

    UNAHIN NYO MUNA YUN MGA REBELDE MAG SURRENDER.

    Mga inutil!

  • basilionisisa

    I honestly don’t understand how Sen Bong Revilla came into the conclusion that ‘It’s not about the existence of firearms. It’s about the peacekeeping forces not doing their jobs.’ after the mass shooting in his own locality. Is he saying that the Police should have predicted the incident and should have stalked the shooter? or that the Police should have been on the lookout in every home with kids? where did he get that logic?

    why are people afraid of BANNING GUNS? (looks like the majority, including politicians) What are they afraid of?

    GUN BAN does not mean ‘banning’ licensed ownership, just bans displaying and carrying it outside the owner’s home. (definitely bans unlicensed ownership)

    means even BODYGUARDS of politicians are not allowed to carry guns in public, as they are NOT Law Enforcers, they will be arrested if they do. (will rid of private armies)

    means anyone BRANDISHING a gun in public, licensed or not, will be arrested automatically. (will rid of macho-drunk-merry-making gun-firing)

    and if i may suggest SHOOT-TO-KILL to anyone brandishing a gun when committing a crime.

    means ownership of UNLICENSED gun is tantamount to being arrested even if not carried outside home. all guns must be licensed. (tipping unlicensed guns by the public must be encouraged and rewarded)

    we should not SUFFER the same PARANOIA many Americans do in our own country.

    but in order to implement this successfully, we need to HAVE a BIG, strong and well-trained Military and PNP.

    • Guest

      Go see youtube’s –  “gun control worlwide”. Naive, do-gooder,& hoplophobic moron should not be allowed in thinking-adult discussions.

      • basilionisisa

        obviously you are not a Filipino, i can smell your paranoia. but thanks for the compliment as moron, at least my IQ is better than yours, an idiot. oh and thanks for the tip, but i don’t form my logic from youtube.

    • john clark

      I will answer you point for point!

      I honestly don’t understand how Sen Bong Revilla came into the conclusion that ‘It’s not about the existence of firearms. It’s about the peacekeeping forces not doing their jobs.’ after the mass shooting in his own locality. Is he saying that the Police should have predicted the incident and should have stalked the shooter? or that the Police should have been on the lookout in every home with kids? where did he get that logic?
      why are people afraid of BANNING GUNS? (looks like the majority, including politicians) What are they afraid of? 
      -“Not enough cops and not enough familiarity with the location”

      GUN BAN does not mean ‘banning’ licensed ownership, just bans displaying and carrying it outside the owner’s home. (definitely bans unlicensed ownership)
      -“Obviously criminals will not follow the law so this is argument is useless”

      means even BODYGUARDS of politicians are not allowed to carry guns in public, as they are NOT Law Enforcers, they will be arrested if they do. (will rid of private armies)
      “-Yeah? Okay how do you handle warlords like the Amapatuans? So heavily armed with huge private armes? Sigurado ka ba susunod sila sa batas?”

      means anyone BRANDISHING a gun in public, licensed or not, will be arrested automatically. (will rid of macho-drunk-merry-making gun-firing)
      “-Kasama ba doon mga goverment officials and rogue cops? na malakas ang kapit?”
       
      and if i may suggest SHOOT-TO-KILL to anyone brandishing a gun when committing a crime.
      “- I doubt you read the news this already happens”

      means ownership of UNLICENSED gun is tantamount to being arrested even if not carried outside home. all guns must be licensed. (tipping unlicensed guns by the public must be encouraged and rewarded)
      “-Papayag ka ba at kaya mo magsumbong sa isang politico na may baril ang bodyguard or sundalo na may unlicensed na baril… Kaya mo isumbong or i hingi permit ng barangay chairman sa baril nya?”

      we should not SUFFER the same PARANOIA many Americans do in our own country.
      but in order to implement this successfully, we need to HAVE a BIG, strong and well-trained Military and PNP
      .
      “-If you havent noticed may shoot out sa laguna 3 cops and 3 soldiers the gun battle is connected to jueteng”

      Alam mo weird ka sa assumptions mo!

      • basilionisisa

        john, kala ko ba sasagutin mo yung suggestions ko point by point? puro padaplis lang yung sagot mo, anyway once for all eto sagot:

        -“Not enough cops and not enough familiarity with the
        location”

        **sabi ko nga: “…we need to HAVE a BIG, strong and
        well-trained Military and PNP.”

        -“Obviously criminals will not follow the law so this is
        argument is useless”

        **so dahil obviously criminals will not follow, argument is
        useless? (what do you mean by “useless” here? Unimplementable?
        (Is it impossible to try?) ie you want Law to give in to the
        criminals? Insulto naman sa Law and Justice and the Constituion, di
        ba?

        “-Yeah? Okay how do you handle warlords like the Amapatuans?
        So heavily armed with huge private armes? Sigurado ka ba susunod sila
        sa batas?”

        **you mean kung nandun ka at may baril ka ay hindi ka gagalawin
        nila? (you’re kidding right?); or kung may baril yung mga teachers na
        minasaker ay hindi mangyayari yon? O makakalaban sila? (you’re
        kidding again, right?) Susunod sila sa batas kung yung ‘Mataas na
        Boss’ (kahit pandak) ay sumusunod sa batas, kaso hindi nga, ok lang
        sa ‘kanya’ yung massacre!

        “-Kasama ba doon mga goverment officials and rogue cops?
        na malakas ang kapit?”

        **kasama syempre! Kaya nga nasa HIGPIT ng pagpapatupad yan!

        “- I doubt you read the news this already happens”
        **yes I know, for emphasis lang, pero isama na rin kahit hindi
        committing a criminal act, basta nagyayabang at patutok-tutok sa
        baril nya, lalo na lasing o nakadroga.

        “-Papayag ka ba at kaya mo magsumbong sa isang politico
        na may baril ang bodyguard or sundalo na may unlicensed na baril…
        Kaya mo isumbong or i hingi permit ng barangay chairman sa baril
        nya?”

        **bakit hindi kung may alam ako? anonymously naman, at
        iimbestigahan naman kagandahan they will be caught unaware, at hindi
        sa Barangay Chairman ako lalapit, direct sa PNP or Military.

        “-If you havent noticed may shoot out sa laguna 3 cops
        and 3 soldiers the gun battle is connected to jueteng”

        **wala akong kinalaman dun bakit ako magpapanic at matatakot?

        Alam mo weird ka sa assumptions mo!

        – Thank you! Coming from you, i take it as a compliment. OK ba sagot ko?
        Kumbinsido ka na?

      • john clark

        -“Not enough cops and not enough familiarity with thelocation”
        **sabi ko nga: “…we need to HAVE a BIG, strong and well-trained Military and PNP.” 
        “-Big and strong is not enough… Smart is more important, what is the use of being big and strong if the men assigned are not smart enough to see trouble”

        -“Obviously criminals will not follow the law so this isargument is useless”

        **so dahil obviously criminals will not follow, argument is useless? (what do you mean by “useless” here? Unimplementable? (Is it impossible to try?) ie you want Law to give in to the criminals? Insulto naman sa Law and Justice and the Constituion, di ba? ”

        “-Yes thats is why they are criminals, kung matalino sila talaga they will not resort to crime you can implement a law but its gonna be useless, all you will do is make more prey for them.

        “-Yeah? Okay how do you handle warlords like the Amapatuans?So heavily armed with huge private armes? Sigurado ka ba susunod silasa batas?”
        **you mean kung nandun ka at may baril ka ay hindi ka gagalawinnila? (you’re kidding right?); or kung may baril yung mga teachers naminasaker ay hindi mangyayari yon? O makakalaban sila? (you’rekidding again, right?) Susunod sila sa batas kung yung ‘Mataas naBoss’ (kahit pandak) ay sumusunod sa batas, kaso hindi nga, ok langsa ‘kanya’ yung massacre!
        -Sila nga ang gumagawa ng BATAS pati si pandak napasunod nila-

        “-Kasama ba doon mga goverment officials and rogue cops?na malakas ang kapit?”
        **kasama syempre! Kaya nga nasa HIGPIT ng pagpapatupad yan!
        “- I doubt you read the news this already happens”**yes I know, for emphasis lang, pero isama na rin kahit hindicommitting a criminal act, basta nagyayabang at patutok-tutok sabaril nya, lalo na lasing o nakadroga.
        “-Papayag ka ba at kaya mo magsumbong sa isang politicona may baril ang bodyguard or sundalo na may unlicensed na baril…Kaya mo isumbong or i hingi permit ng barangay chairman sa barilnya?”
        **bakit hindi kung may alam ako? anonymously naman, atiimbestigahan naman kagandahan they will be caught unaware, at hindisa Barangay Chairman ako lalapit, direct sa PNP or Military.

        “Anonymous is useles… Have you ever tried to file a police complaint in your life… The police cannot act without a warrant, malas mo pa they turn on you and hanapan ka ng SABIT… Do you live in an ivory tower or something?”

        “-If you havent noticed may shoot out sa laguna 3 copsand 3 soldiers the gun battle is connected to jueteng”
        **wala akong kinalaman dun bakit ako magpapanic at matatakot?
        -No THE NEWS 13 killed in a shoot out or rubout in laguna its all over the news! Geez how disconnected from the news are you?… What i am trying to say is if these people are lubog sa Illegal gambling, the people sworn to protect you are going to be the people that can kill you!”

        Alam mo weird ka sa assumptions mo!
        – Thank you! Coming from you, i take it as a compliment. OK ba sagot ko?Kumbinsido ka na?

        -If you are happy fine… Keep dreaming sarap mabuhay in black and white land… No grey areas… Ang Criminal, Warlord, Druglord, Drug dealer Sumusunod sa batas, if you are looking for a good place to go without guns… Maybe you should immigrate to mexico… It is illegal for civilians to own guns there… Ingat lang sa mga Drug kingpins okay? They got all the guns…

        As i always say “Dictators and Criminals Prefer Unarmed Civilians” Peace!

    • boldyak

      you contradict your self…your first parag..and your last sentence…ano ba talaga?

      • basilionisisa

        to ask for a ‘BIG, strong and well-trained Military and PNP’ is miles different from Bong’s ‘peacekeeping forces not doing their jobs.’  di ba?

  • Horst Manure

    Nothing like a good joke to start the day.

  • Magsasaka

    there is a law against gun running and yet gun running is rampant.
    there is a law against killing, murder, homicide and yet gun for hire, killing by riding in tandem is rampant, so why do we need another gun law?
    our hypocrite society is again wanted another gun law to control the law abiding citizens despite the fact the it is the outlaws with guns that they should control.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BNH2EF27LQAVTR2GUP3FV5PLKY good muslim

    Ibalik ang bitay.  pag nahatulan after one year , bitay na agad. yun baril ang kaso 30 days mandatory kulong. bago inquest sa husgado.

  • scorpio15

    Mga Militar at Kapulisan ang Masisipag bumenta ng mga Baril at Bala. Hindi ba alam ni Honasan itong mga ginagawa nila??????

  • XY ZEE

    May magagalit nyan at kukuniin ninyo ang mga laruan niya.

  • boldyak

    mag-isip naman kayo ng mga batas para umunlad ang bayan…daming law na tungkol sa pagdadala ng baril, di maipatupad, heto gagawa na naman at magsayang ng panahon at pera ang ng hinayupak na congressman…

  • isagani_maverick77

    tsk…tsk… tsk… when flood strikes and drowned communities, we speak about illegal loggers and to strictly implement the ‘log-ban’…. when we celebrate new year, we speak about illegal fireworks and to strictly implement ‘banning high-explosive fire stuff’…when red-tide attacks and fish-kills and dynamite fishing occurs, we talk about strict implementation of banning illegal activities at our rivers and seas… when violence, snatching, robbery, among others, we talk about police visibility in squatter’s nest and crime prone areas…. when we loose some, we all gain nothing….tsk..tsk..tsk.. in short- there is the LAW that is existing in all the above scenarios, in which the ‘ningas-cogon’ attitude and crab like mentality dumping its way to trash- political will! and the true will to implement the rules is one way to put all this unlawful behaviors behind bars!!! maliit man o malaki ang pagkakasala ay dapat managot sa ating batas… ibaba ang edad na parurusahan gawing 12 yrs.old, dahil kadalasan sila ang ginagamit na kasangkapan ng mga sukaban sa kriminalidad..huwag n tayo magbulag-bulagan…sa bawat lugar na madaanan natin ay meron na niyan…nagtutulog-tulugan lang ang may kapangyarihan….tsk..tsk..tsk…alam nga ng baraggay yan…sabihin natin ngayon….ano ang kulang sa batas??? nagtatanong lang…..

  • isagani_maverick77

    kapag nakagat na ng mga langgam…saka pa lang aaray at kakamot sa ulo na may mga langgam pa lang nadikitan o naapakan… nakita na nga na maraming basura ang nakakalat sa lipunan at patuloy na namemerwisyo, higit ay pumapatay… at heto ay bubusisiin ang batas….mga kaibigan, kapatid, kabarkada, kapamilya, kapuso, kapitbahay, kainuman, katrabahao, kakulitan, katsimisan, kautangan, at kung anu pa man yan… huwag na po mag-grandstanding sa telebisyon upang may masabi lang, meron na pong batas..mangyari lamang po ay paigtingin at seryosohin ang pagsasa-realidad at pagsasakatuparan nito…kawawa naman si Juan…sayang ang kuryente, sa paulit-ulit na bangayan at papogian sa pagharap sa cameraman….mamang pulis, manong sundalo…manang pulitiko, manong guard, mamang Malacanang… nasaan na po ba kayo? lumilipad na ang mga ligaw na kaluluwa ng mga walang habas na pinagpapatay simula’t sapul pa!

  • Komen To

    Ewan ko ba bakit nauna pa yung batas na papatay sa semilya o itlog ng ina kesa sa batas na bubuhay sa mamamayan laban sa mapanganib na armas

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U62PHGMKO4RK7BLMC4ACA4EG5A EREC

    Instead po na pag initan natin ang mga may hawak ng licensed fire arm bakit hindi po gamitin sila ng mga pulis na kasama sa peace and order in a community and improve their capability to be a helping hand by government in community. What the government legislators must do to penalized heavily those having unlicensed fire arms. A security guard must not bring home their service fire arms but I saw one, pinagyayabang panga which wrong and looked undecipline and no proper training in handling gun. As OFW im looking one for my wife she was already a victim of harassment by a drunk men in our store despite we keep helping our neighbors.

  • mightya_i

    Possible kaya na habang gumagawa ng law about gun ban- hanapin na rin ang nagbebenta ng illegal na gun? kasi wala namang illegal gun kung walang nagbebenta – di ba?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

    I will give an idea which in my opinion the best solution to maintain GOOD and MORAL CITIZENS OF OUR COUNTRY and the solution is “NATIONAL ID”
    How this things will work?
    National ID will not only serve as for the purpose of having all information of the HOLDER but it must be respected as a standard requirement needed when making different transactions (ex:Banks,Legal Matters,Documents,Schools,Job Opportunities as requirement and for any foreign transactions outside the country).This will also include registration of FIREARMS under the name of it´s National ID holder.
    Who are required to get National ID?
    1) All filipino citizen in our country (If you are outside the country,respective Embassies will provide it as per required!)
    2) It must be 18 YEARS OF LEGAL AGE.
    How can i acquire this National ID?
    All local government offices of National Bureau of Statistics and Census are the only recognize office that will consider the validity of every National ID being provided in every citizen.The National Bureau of Statistics MUST FORWARD ALL INFORMATION;DATAS OF EVERY APPLICANTS through electronic transfer or using computers to:
    1) Department of Immigration
    2) Department of Labor
    3) Department of Finance or Banking System
    Actually,my purpose is not only as a plain requirement for every transactions but to maintain good moralities of every filipinos throughout the country.What consequences will happen if someone VIOLATE THE LAW?
    1) Once your name be given through authorities that you have criminal offense or violation or even civil cases,the Dept.of Immigration,Labor and Banking System will be ALARM or NOTIFIED so that it will put this VIOLATORS being BLACKLISTED AT ALL POSSIBLE EXITS;JOBS(government or private) as well as FREEZING YOUR BANK ACCOUNTS IMMEDIATELY!
    How should the government start implementing this to the people?
    Once it is a law and need to start ASAP then make it like this for example:
    All Males are require to have his application being submitted by the end of Feb 29,2013
    All Females are require to have his application being submitted starting March up to April 30,2013
    Lost of National ID will require a possible penalty and MUST first report at NBI (National Bureau of Investigation) regarding clearance to get a new one! 
    Hope my ideas will provide Lawmakers about putting a righteous way of providing a moral and good citizens of our country,Salamat po!

    • buttones

      Sounds like a voters ID to me Dennis, and in fact I had one of those issued to me eight years ago when abroad, plastic, picture, thumb print- the whole works including magnetic strip. When I returned six years ago- and re-registered in my community Comelec took it off me, and two weeks ago gave me a paper one I had to pay to be laminated.
      What I an saying is that no PH government organization is actually capable of organizing this sort of National ID, they are incapable.
      Not only that PH ID starts at one month old- not eighteen, It is then we should be issued with at least a number with all details except a photo- at eighteen a final one issued with full identity of photo and finger print. And how do you record the 100 million now? It takes me six years to get voter ID….. And it’s not really an ID at all. By the time your idea comes to reality, half this nation will be dead….
      Could all this be organized? Well yes, I guess, it should have been done when Quezon grabbed the throne- too late now….
      By the way the whole idea smacks of a totalitarian State actually, it is the issuance of a SS ID at birth that is acceptable, not a National ID, the SS ID has a purpose, the National ID is a bit frightening….If I leave it at home and get stopped without one will they send me to the stalag, to the labor camps?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

        Why did i mentioned 18yrs and above?This is because there are certain people born with “dual citizenship” and he/she will be of using his/her National ID with a conflict of either both citizen he carries.When i say,18yrs of age then this is the time a person is already matured and ready to face all accountabilities in life.Besides,this age was the age upon which you can choose your own citizen,ready to give up dual citizen!

      • buttones

        I don’t know, just a guess really but the vast majority of us are NOT born with dual citizenship- these are exceptions and a process for the majority should not be designed on a minority- these become exceptions…..

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

        Kasi may mga countries na allowing a person to carry dual citizen.I don´t know in particular.But alam naman natin na matagal ng plano ng Gobyerno ang National ID,so,this is the time.This will encourage every citizen to protect his own rights by doing good not only to country but to every filipino citizen.

      • buttones

        Not aware of this plan you speak of- I am a Filipina who holds a national ID- I have a PH passport, I am a registered voter with a voting ID as well, and can ‘protect my rights’ as such. I cannot enter into politics because I hold dual nationality, fair enough. In the country that I hold dual nationality, I cannot vote because I am on no electoral roll, I exist as a person who has right of residency in that country. There is no reason for me to give up this right in favor of PH- is there?

      • ARIKUTIK

        PH is environment friendly island, carpeted by mildew green green grass dotted by sturdy tree trunks wet on seasons. The inhabitants are not greedy rich but simple friendly folks, smilling in hope for God’s blessings. The sun shines each morning with rays for all to walk in the park with out sunblock cream. Fresh breeze are blowing from her sorounding seas full of fish and mermaids of the night. The Philippines is paradise with only few evils housed in Batasan hills presently feed by a Boy AB. Philippines is pearl of the orient full of gigling girls… yeheyyyy….

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ICNSS6FWQAUKHWZ2DSBIX5ZPJA SUPERMAN

      tma ka dennis, dpat lng n ipatupad ang  National ID s Pilipinas and mdami p msasakop ang national ID. this will give a data base & records of all the information of all the citizens and all transactions will be easier with the use of modern technology. (Kaya ng Pinoy at ni PNOY ang implemetation nyan, ang dami ng pinoy na nappunta at nrerespeto ang galing sa ibang bansa,)

      some samples only na mssakop ng national ID at problema n kaagad mtutugunan1. Mababawasan n ang mga gov’t ID’s ntin s wallet i.e. Phil Health, SSS, Pag-ibig, Voters ID atbp. at bukod sa lhat isa n lng ang number mo. d mo n kailngan tndaan o hnapin ang no. mo. at eto n ang magiging Valid ID mo. ndi un plagi k n lng pmeron requirement n  at least 2 valid ID’s pg ng-aapply ka, example in passport application, u must have at least 2 valid ID’s (paano kung wla k, dahil wla kng work, d k member ng SSS, paano n, mgppgwa n lng ng peke n ID)2. SCAM on cellphones via SMS or CALL (within the country), pg bumili k ng SIM dpat nkregister s USER. pg my victim, mdali nya mrereport ang no. ng nanloko sa kanya at madali nmn mahuhuli ng kapulisan o knuukulan ang suspect.(There should be strict implementation of  no selling of unregistered simcards, Sellers/Distributors will be punished/penalized if they do so.) Gaya dito sa singapore, they have their IC (Identification card), yan ung ipnpkta/gngamit nila on most of their transactions here and they have an effective & fast transactions here.Marami pang kagandang maidudulot ang national ID kailngan lng simulan at pg nglaon bga e magiging smooth din ang implementation & effectiveness nito.Kailngan maging PRO ACTIVE ung mga nasa congress at senado para maipatupad ito.  Kayo ang pag-asa nmin, madami taung “magagandang ” batas  kaso d lng nippatupad ng tama. Nasimulan n ng ating Presidente ang pagkakaroon ng daang matuwid, sna e mgtulungan n lng ang mga pinoy pr sa knabuksan nting lhat ndi pansarili lmang pra mkauwi n kming mga OFW at mksma n nmin ang aming mga mhal sa buhay.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

        Thanks for getting my point!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

    National ID must have picture and thumb mark of every holder and a bar code that provide all information of the holder.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

    Kaya yung mga firearms,it must be recorded under the name of a holder of National ID.Kaya kung hahayaan mong gamitin ang firearms mo eh parang tinapos mo na din ang future mo.Blacklisted ka sa all possible exit sa bansa,automatically closed ang lahat ng bank accounts mo at hindi ka pwedeng magtrabaho! It leaves a person but harapin yung kaso!

    • frudo

      tama dapat lang magkaroon na tyo ng national id, kaya lang sigurado ako na papalagan to ng mga makakaliwa,  pero sana ma isabatas na rin to

  • Your_King

    I suppose we appreciate the thought yet at the same time it also seems that this would be a waste of time. We all know who sits at the helm in the Palace and his love for guns so this revival will be D.O.A.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

    Madaming pwedeng paggamitan ang National ID aside from it´s purpose.Pwedeng lagyan ng INCENTIVES like.Kung holder ka ng National ID and you maintain your good moral attitude towards your work,co-workers WITHOUT any criminal or civil records then pwedeng magpabuya ng “One Year salary payment” after your 30yrs of service in the Government,depende sa batas.Matatanggap mo ang kabuuan na bayad saýo after matapos mo ang good service at bukod pa sa standard pension na tatanggapin mo.This can be called “Good Citizens Golden Handshake” Dapat gumawa ang gobyerno para ma-win nila ang trust ng tao!

  • Paliwaweng

    Sen. Panfilo Lacson said he would “modify” a bill he filed on firearms regulation so civilians would no longer be given permits to carry firearms outside their residence. “Anyone seen with a firearm will be presumed as a bad element without doubt and therefore must be reported to authorities,”

    This proposal of Lacson is as good as in paper.

    When a deranged man steps out his house, with guns in both hands,  and began firing indiscriminately, can you report that immediately?

    Or when you report to the police a homicidial maniac pointing his gun to anyone besides his house and starts shooting people, can  you tell me how long law enforcers will arrive?

    In a minute, an automatic pistol can fire 460-900 rounds per minute, automatic assault rifle 1000 – 1100 rounds per minute and some higher caliber with higher firepower can unleash a wave of death in a matter of 3 minutes.

    The solution is total gun ban to all civilians.
    Only criminally minded people are interested in owning guns.

    Guns were invented with one purpose: To kill.

  • Paliwaweng

    A man high on drugs or one who is mentally deranged with an intent to kill and shoot people will not think if people or residents in a village or town were armed or possess a gun for self-defense.

    They will shoot you even you point a gun on them, that is for sure.

    The idea that criminals will have a second thought or will not encroach on these places is one of the most moronic defense by pro-gun lobbyists.

    Look at private armies. Are they afraid of the police and the military?

    Did the goons of Ampatuan surrendered all their ammunitions? No way.
    As long as there is a law that legalized gun ownership by civilians, mayhem will not be stopped, year after year, news of mass-murder will continue and will remain unabated.

  • ARIKUTIK

    Illegal guns in the finger of Private army enslave the good poor citizens. Gunless citizens will remain slaves with out hope of salvation from murderous hacienderos. Remember Hacienda Luisita masscre.

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