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Divorce? No way, stresses Malacañang

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President Benigno Aquino III will not touch the divorce question with a 10-foot pole.

Divorce is not just low on the Aquino administration radar, it is not on its radar screen at all, Palace officials have stressed repeatedly.

Apparently wanting to avoid a potential collision course with the Catholic Church, Malacañang on Saturday dismissed proposals to introduce divorce legislation in the country.

“Divorce is not on the radar of the administration,” deputy presidential spokesperson Abigail Valte told a radio interview when asked what the President’s position was on the two bills that have been filed in the House of Representatives seeking to either stop or allow divorce legislation.

Valte was categorical in saying that divorce legislation was not a priority of Mr. Aquino, who is a bachelor at 52.

Neither Mr. Aquino nor any Cabinet secretary was willing to discuss this in the Cabinet, she emphasized.

Soon after the House passed the reproductive health (RH) bill on third reading last month, to the great consternation of Church leaders, Speaker Feliciano Belmonte announced that divorce would be next on the House’s agenda.

Right on cue, House members started the spade work, filing divorce-related bills, although seemingly at cross purposes.

One of the House bills wants “any future enactment of any bill related to divorce” to be considered illegal, while the other is for amending the Family Code to accommodate a divorce provision.

The “Anti-Divorce and Unlawful Dissolution of Marriage” bill, authored by Marikina Rep. Marcelino Teodoro, seeks a “guarantee that no legislation encouraging or facilitating the dissolution of marriage and recognizing divorce shall be passed.”

At the opposite pole is the bill coauthored by party-list Representatives Luzviminda Ilagan and Emerenciana de Jesus (Gabriela), which seeks to amend the Family Code to introduce a divorce provision.

The Teodoro bill would ensure that absolute divorce remains unacceptable in the Philippines where, the bill’s author reasons, spouses in troubled marriages can always avail of legal separation.

In the explanatory note to his bill, Teodoro said the attempts to introduce a divorce law in the country “undermine the value of marriage by encouraging couples to put an end to their relationship instead of allowing them to reconcile immediately or fix the same over time.”

Ilagan and De Jesus argued in favor of divorce to give relief to people in so “many failed and unhappy marriages” who have no access to the courts and end up separating “without the benefit of legal processes.”

In this regard, party-list Rep. Neri Colmenares (Bayan Muna) has filed a bill which neither advocates for nor condemns divorce but seeks to make annulment more accessible to and less costly for the poor.

Valte reiterated that neither of the divorce bills was being talked about in the Cabinet, “so it’s not really on the radar.”

Mindful of Church leaders’ reaction after Mr. Aquino signed the RH bill into law on Dec. 21, Malacañang has stressed that the Aquino administration was not about to provoke Church leaders further by supporting divorce legislation.

“That’s not on the radar, that’s not being discussed [in the Palace],” said Communications Secretary Ricky Carandang, following Belmonte’s announcement that divorce would figure next on the House agenda.

“I think this is being discussed mostly by civil society groups and advocates, but we’ve always said that this was not something that we were thinking about at this point. And I can say that it’s really not something that the administration is contemplating” for the remainder of Mr. Aquino’s term, Carandang said.


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Tags: Abigail Valte , Aquino Administration , Benigno Aquino III , Catholic Church , divorce , Emerenciana de Jesus , Gabriela , Luzviminda Ilagan , Marcelino Teodoro , Reproductive Health Bill , RH bill


  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BXBYZ5EB467UVJRXK4IOM5BX4Y Todd

    Matthew 19:9King James Version (KJV)
    9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/QTVMMV3EWVYIFKLY4M5EYFAQB4 CN

       Amen. What God has put together, let no man put asunder.

      • wawangpenoy

        Yan ang napapala nyong mga bulag na sunud-sunuran sa mga prayle. Who said it was God who put together the husband and wife? Read below so you’d be more circumspect. (The articles were taken from reliable sources)

        “Originally “marriage” was a private, binding contract between clans
        (families) to form an alliance, thereby increasing the clan’s chances
        for survival in war against rival clans. A “dowry” was given by each
        clan to “seal the deal”. Marriage was contractual, considered a passing
        of “property” between clans as a symbol of intention to honor the
        agreement being made. Property took many forms: cattle, land, children,
        whatever was considered to be of great value at the time. In the United
        Kingdom, a requirement for a public announcement in a Christian parish
        (banns of marriage) was introduced by the Roman Catholic Church in 1215.
        This set the precedent for marriage as is recognized by the Christian
        community.

        The origins of marriage is NOT religious, nor does
        it have anything to do with the God of the Abrahamic religions. It was
        around way before organized religion which by Christian standards means
        it is PAGAN. Christians “borrowed” many pagan rites and rituals so
        Pagans would convert more readily and easily to Christianity.”


        The early church had no specific rite for marriage. This was left up
        to the secular authorities of the Roman Empire, since marriage is a
        legal concern for the legitimacy of heirs. When the Empire became
        Christian under Constantine, Christian emperors continued the imperial
        control of marriage, as the Code of Justinian makes clear. When the
        Empire faltered in the West, church courts took up the role of legal
        adjudicator of valid marriages. But there was still no special religious
        meaning to the institution. As the best scholar of sacramental history,
        Joseph Martos, puts it: “Before the eleventh century there was no such
        thing as a Christian wedding ceremony in the Latin church, and
        throughout the Middle Ages there was no single church ritual for
        solemnizing marriage between Christians.”

        Only in the twelfth century was a claim made for some supernatural
        favor (grace) bestowed on marriage as a sacrament. By the next century
        marriage had been added to the biblically sacred number of seven
        sacraments. Since Thomas Aquinas argued that the spouses’ consent is the
        efficient cause of marriage and the seal of intercourse was the final
        cause, it is hard to see what a priest’s blessing could add to the
        reality of the bond. And bad effects followed. This sacralizing of the
        natural reality led to a demoting of Yahwist marriage, the only kind
        Jesus recognized, as inferior to “true marriage” in a church.”

      • rayingga

         iyan ang paniniwala mo, we respect it. kaya in return pay respect ka rin naman sa paniniwala ng iba. You are no GOD.

    • pepito gwaps

      Iba na ngayon marami na ang wives ang nangangaliwa at nagkakaanak pa sa ibang lalaki habang ang mga mister nila ay naghahanapbuhay. Paano mo macoconsole ang hinagpis ng mga taong iyon kundi sa batas na ito lamang…

    • Jane Tan

      Deuteronomy 24:1-4, 1 Corinthians 7:15

  • quirinomayer

    So what if Malacanang is cool to divorce? Majority of Filipinos  (94 percent in PDI online survey, for example) support the measure. Let’s go on with it. Actually, it’s only the Padre Damasos who are after keeping whatever is left of their sway on the country after the RH Bill debacle and would want at all cost to maintain the reputation of the country as the only one beside the Vatican without a divorce law who are against the measure.

    GO, GO, GO DIVORCE BILL! 

    • speaksoftlylove

       So what? Kahit na ilang milyon pa yang survey mo walang mangyayari dyan sa divorce bill. Kung sponsor pa ang UN mabilis pa sa alaskwatrong magpapatawag na naman ng meeting si PNoy sa palasyo niya.

      Kapag walang lobby money at bonus pork di gagalaw yang mga tipaklong sa kongreso, aminin mo ang katotohanan.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4R3GZTGML26TV2VGS6RVHP2THM Fred

    Playing safe first.
    On another note, are there really catholic votes? Are they like INC?

  • filipinaskoh

    Before divorce could become a law it may takes decades.

    Many are against it
    1  Catholic prelates
     2.  Other religious denomination who are conservative when it comes to marriage.
    3. Mga Misis na mukhang “ewan” kasi hindi na sila makakapag-asawa ulit.
    4. Mga husband na nakakasulasok ang pag-uugali na nakasandal sa mga misis na martyr.
    5.Mga misis na ang mga asawa ay may mga “other woman” na mas higit na bata at maganda sa kanila.
    6. Mga misis na malaking-malaki ang kinikita ng kanilang mga husband- syempre kanilang lahat ang sweldo ng husband biglang magiging “wala na”

  • filipinaskoh

    response to todd and CN
    I believe in that!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BXBYZ5EB467UVJRXK4IOM5BX4Y Todd

      Romans 7:2-3King James Version (KJV)
      2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man

      • Jane Tan

        Deuteronomy 24:1-4, 1 Corinthians 7:15

  • WAJ

    WHY NOT MR. PRESIDENT SIR?

  • http://pedestrianobserver.blogspot.com/ Political Jaywalker

    Duh, do we really expect a more than half a century bachelor to prioritize divorce when he even has a problem having a woman to marry him? LOL.

    Divorce is certainly something that’s way beyond Pnoy’s pay scale, hehehe. Well, the absence of divorce will mean we are the only one left in the whole world  without divorce law.

    Pacquaio may have lost the glory but our prudish government can ably replace the Pacquiao spectacle with how they introduced pre-emptive anti divorce bill and earn the Philippines a distinctive character as the world’s village idiot, LOL.

  • pepito gwaps

    Kung yong dating RH Bill ay ginawa nyong batas para magkaroon ng free will na pumili ang mga tao na magcontrol sa pagkakaroon ng anak bakit parang ayaw nyong bigyan ng kalayaan ang mga mag asawang pumili na maghiwalay na lamang kesa araw araw na nag aaway, nagbubulbugan, nag-iipotan sa mga ulo at hindi na magkasundo dahil sa mga malalang differences???

  • wilfel

    Why not ? Couples have been separating and go to live with other people. Lets make it legal so people who can’t longer tolerate each other can go their separate way. Why live in sin as the Catholic church likes called it. Let the couple decide if they can’t no longer live together. Go for it Mr President. See what happened to your own sister that it take her and spend a lot of money just to get a legal separation from the court. Lets make it easy for common people to go their separate way. Don’t beleive so much on the Catholic Church for they are up to nothing good except for themselve.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BXBYZ5EB467UVJRXK4IOM5BX4Y Todd

      Matthew 19:9King James Version (KJV)
      9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

      • Jane Tan

        Deuteronomy 24:1-4, 1 Corinthians 7:15

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TOHRZASFSBWSECUBKUHPBUDEKE Eddie

    THis is the 21’st century, all western countries have divorce laws, why we cannot have one.. Just how stupid idiot and hypocrite we are as a people if we dont have one.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TOHRZASFSBWSECUBKUHPBUDEKE Eddie

    The poor suffer more because of this hypocrisy. THe rich can spend money to have their marriage annulled but the poor cannot. SO why not level the playing field, divorce should easy and fast to end all miseries for all class. If someone dont want to live anymore with hir/her partner, then get out and getting out should be easy and fast.

  • speaksoftlylove

    Aray, biglang kambyo ang mga kampon ng kadilawan.

    Sabaysabay na kayo, purihin si Imbong aleluiah!

    Ikaw ang mag-lead marionics de robotics.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

      ^ kampon ni damaso. huwag pamarisan.

  • speaksoftlylove

    Si Samuel Bilbil-ibit ang sakristan mo, marionics de robotics.

    Magaling yon umamen!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

      ^ kampon ni damaso. huwag pamarisan.

  • AlexanderAmproz

    Long time prisoners are afraid of freedom lost habit,
    if possible they will prefer to stay in jail when their term is over. 

    On the same way Pilipino’s love the Damaso’s sickness and slavery injected by the Spaniards.

    A kind of Stockholm syndrome, who will keep the county backward.

  • brunogiordano

    “party-list Rep. Neri Colmenares (Bayan Muna) has filed a bill which neither advocates for nor condemns divorce but seeks to make annulment more accessible to and less costly for the poor.”

    Gawin libre(FREE) ang ANNULMENT!!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/55XNXOYBNF6BG3EWOM5V4YMWXM Pedro

    To : All  Lawmakers

    Walang  ka-kwenta kwentang topic yang  pinag a-aksayahan  nyo  ng  oras  at  laway  sa dakdakan dyan  sa kongreso, ang ” DIVORCE “!  Ang  pag usapan  nyo ay  kung  papano  ma -ibabalik  ang  DEATH  PENALTY  para sa mga HEINOUS   CRIMES  KASAMA  NA  ANG  DROGA.  BITAY  PARA  SA  MGA  DRUG LORDS !!  

    Yung  namaril  sa Kawit, Cavite  na si Bae  AT PUMATAY  NG 7  TAO  ay  NAKA-DROGA  pala. . Laganap  na  laganap  na  ang droga  sa  buong  bansa  kasama  na  yang  CAVITE AT  Metro-Manila. Nilamon  na  rin  ng  CORRUPTION  ang  maraming  fixcals, pulis at mga korte  sa  buong bansa !  Natatalo  na  tayo ! GRABE  NA  TALAGA  ANG  DROGA  SA  ATIN!  Tapos, divorce  lang  ang  pinag uusapan  nyo  dyan  sa  kongreso !! GUMISING  NA  KAYO !!

    • rayingga

       Tama si Pedro

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    NAPAPANAHON NA IPASA YAN DAHIL TAYO NALANG SA BUONG MUNDO WALA DIVORCE  DAHIL SA PARASITE KATOLIBAN CHURCH WALA PAG SASAMA PERPEKTO AT NAGIGING MALIGAYA MINSAN PINAG MUMULAN PA NG KAMATAYAN NG ISA SA FAMILYA BIGYAN NG PAG KAKATAON ANG TAO LUMIGAYA MULI AT MAGING MAAYOS ANG BUHAY!! ANG MGA OBISPO AY SALOT SA PILIPINAS BRAIN WASH PILIPINOS TO BE IDIOT AND STUPID!! HYPOCRITE SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO MGA SINUNGALING NA WAGAS!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    PCSO pa car sa obispo!! cbcp bishops brain wash pilipinos to be idiot and stupid!! parasite church!!

    • rayingga

       Do you think by saying those words ay natutuwa sa iyo si Kristo. If you dont like Catholic so be it, Exert more effort doon sa kung saan ka man nakasanib para mapalaganap mo ang inyong paniniwala.

  • mangtom

    CNCollapse Amen. What God has put together, let no man put asunder.Sagut: kung ganun pala, bakit hindi namang sinusunod ang Ten Commandments? Example, “Thou shall not kill”. Patayan naman left and right. Next example, “Thou shall not make any graven image….Pero mga Katoliko sinasamba nila ang kahoy o ivory na image? What God put together are two human beings with their innate frailties. Hindi namang gaya ng Poop sa Vatican na infallible DAW-really? 

    • abner

      ganito lang kasimple yan brod….yung si rizal may rebulto….pero binabantayan duon ng mga gwardya sa rizal park.ibig sabihin…iginagalang..kahit bato un..kung un nasa isip mo…ang mga santo…ginawan din ng rebulto..ng saganun..eh naaalala sila…un un….

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        bakit ka gumawa  ng cristo rebulto may nakakita naba sa kanya!! mamaya di pla si cristo yun at si satanas!!

    • picker_blend

      the pope is not infallible, all the time. there are times when decisions have to made esp. with regard to doctrine that the declarations of the pope are deemed infallible. so on any given day, the pope is just another human being. and ad lev is correct, the images are there to reinforce what these people did when they were alive; how their lives were inspired by God; and that like them, we can lead good Christian lives too.

    • rayingga

       Concentrate ka na lang sa iyong relihiyon at pagbutihin mo ang pagpapalaganap nito…Wag ka ng makisawasaw sa mga katoliko dahil di ka naman nila pinakikialaman. Let Jesus himself do the judgement at wag ikaw. By doing so nagkakasala ka lang.

  • wawa2172

    Divorce is a not a priority to PNoy, he is a bachelor and could dump media headline hugging GF’s at an instant. He is coke zero he said so he has nothing to divorce. Besides Kris can easily afford legal separation and annulment of marriage. First with Philip Salvador and then James Yap. Napakabilis pa nang approval nang court on grounds that they have presented to annulled her marriages. What a favored and powerful presidential sister.   

    • abner

       kinasal ba sya kay philip?? parang indi yata ah…pailalim lang tirada nila dyan para makalantaran n ng pag aasawa uli si kristetak.

  • wawangpenoy

    For those of you who still have a medieval mental construction I ask you:

    Why is it that eating meat on a Good Friday a sin when the bible doesn’t even say it? And if I recall it rightly so, this ceased to be a sin since 1965 (correct me if this year is wrong but surely it is no longer a sin). So therefore, the RCC, just by a mere whim, can make something a sacrament or a sin or not a sin anymore. AND YOU STILL BLINDLY BELIEVE IN YOUR RELIGION?

    NOW THIS. THE CHURCH SAYS MARRIAGE IS A SACRAMENT. IS IT IN THE BIBLE? ENLIGHTEN ME. Anyway, read below: (taken from some reliable source)

    “Originally “marriage” was a private, binding contract between clans (families) to form an alliance, thereby increasing the clan’s chances for survival in war against rival clans. A “dowry” was given by each clan to “seal the deal”. Marriage was contractual, considered a passing of “property” between clans as a symbol of intention to honor the agreement being made. Property took many forms: cattle, land, children, whatever was considered to be of great value at the time. In the United Kingdom, a requirement for a public announcement in a Christian parish (banns of marriage) was introduced by the Roman Catholic Church in 1215. This set the precedent for marriage as is recognized by the Christian community.

    The origins of marriage is NOT religious, nor does it have anything to do with the God of the Abrahamic religions. It was around way before organized religion which by Christian standards means it is PAGAN. Christians “borrowed” many pagan rites and rituals so Pagans would convert more readily and easily to Christianity.”

    ” The early church had no specific rite for marriage. This was left up to the secular authorities of the Roman Empire, since marriage is a legal concern for the legitimacy of heirs. When the Empire became Christian under Constantine, Christian emperors continued the imperial control of marriage, as the Code of Justinian makes clear. When the Empire faltered in the West, church courts took up the role of legal adjudicator of valid marriages. But there was still no special religious meaning to the institution. As the best scholar of sacramental history, Joseph Martos, puts it: “Before the eleventh century there was no such thing as a Christian wedding ceremony in the Latin church, and throughout the Middle Ages there was no single church ritual for solemnizing marriage between Christians.”

    Only in the twelfth century was a claim made for some supernatural
    favor (grace) bestowed on marriage as a sacrament. By the next century
    marriage had been added to the biblically sacred number of seven
    sacraments. Since Thomas Aquinas argued that the spouses’ consent is the
    efficient cause of marriage and the seal of intercourse was the final
    cause, it is hard to see what a priest’s blessing could add to the
    reality of the bond. And bad effects followed. This sacralizing of the
    natural reality led to a demoting of Yahwist marriage, the only kind
    Jesus recognized, as inferior to “true marriage” in a church.”

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BXBYZ5EB467UVJRXK4IOM5BX4Y Todd

      Matthew 19:5-7King James Version (KJV)
      5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder

      • batangpaslit

        good…

      • wawangpenoy

         Okay…. so why was it being practiced by non-christian ages even before the RC found out about it? (my only guess is because of the fact that the bible was written after Christianity and it was only fitting to incorporate a practice that would bind the followers. And for your info, the bible was “written” when the RC was already on its 3rd pope – pope anacletus)  And then later on even made it into a sacrament.. don’t you find this quite human rather than divine? And just in case you would agree with me that this is a human folly, isn’t it just rational to adjust with the times?

      • boldyak

        dagdagan mo pa research mo, at intindihin mo maigi…mahirap kung kunti pa lang ang alam natin at nagmamarunong na…

      • Jane Tan

        Deuteronomy 24:1-4, 1 Corinthians 7:15

    • batangpaslit

      Bro, merong biblical basis ang marriage. Nabanggit din ang divorce that Moses granted it since people are stiff necked beings.
      The problem with RCC, is:
      The religiouus imposed so many burdens to their parishioners that they themselves (RCC leaders) could not even carry.

  • brunogiordano

    “….this was not something that we were thinking about at this point.”

    OK.

    Pag dating sa NEXT POINT malamang bago na ang pagiisip nila sa bagay na ito.

  • catalansbarce

    Ang daming daldal.., ipasa muna ang Divorce Bill sa  senado at kongreso.., si Pnoy
    na ang bahala mag sign yan into law palihim. No comments muna ang Malacanang ngayon,
    iwas pusoy, ayaw madagdagan ni Presidente ang galit ni Padre Damaso sa kanya dahil sa RH bill na naging batas na. Iyong bill ni Colmenares at Teodoro. pambulabog at pagpang gulo lang
    yan sa Congress.., pamulitika lang yan.

    • abner

       siempre malapit na election eh…kung election lang ng presidente ang pagbobotohan ngaun 2013 talong talo na si mar roxas na pinataas ang presyo ng mga alak….indi na iboboto ang mga rh tongressman…..

      • http://ourleftfoot.blogspot.com/ Tristanism

        Loko tong si Mar Roxas a. Pintaas niya ang presyo ng mga alak? Angas naman pala ng opisina ng DILG, no?

      • rayingga

         It  was not Mr Roxas, balik aral tayo

    • rayingga

       Very well said

  • brunogiordano

    “Miindful of Church leaders’ reaction after Mr. Aquino signed the RH bill into law on Dec. 21, Malacañang has stressed that the Aquino administration was not about to provoke Church leaders further by supporting divorce legislation.”

    Babaw na dahilan.

    Parang hindi pangulo ng isang SECULAR state(country)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BXBYZ5EB467UVJRXK4IOM5BX4Y Todd

    Romans 7:2-3King James Version (KJV)
    2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man

    • http://ourleftfoot.blogspot.com/ Tristanism

      Whoever sends his wife away, let him give her a certificate of divorce'; but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, EXCEPT FOR THE CAUSE OF UN-CHASTITY, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. —   Matthew 5:31-32

      O, pwede naman pala ang divorce e.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XWH5SD6XPM3XKND6PJQQ32ZRAU Mabuhay

    BAD news!!!!

    • boldyak

      bad news nga, di na ako makaraming asawa nito…tsssk…di na ako makahothot ng husto…sayang ang mga maging conjugal properties ng mga magiging asawa ko….sayang talaga..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XWH5SD6XPM3XKND6PJQQ32ZRAU Mabuhay

    for the meantime gawin muna na ground for annulment ang 5yrs and more non-cohabitation of spouses para medyo dumali ang annulment cases. Psycho incapacity is very hard to prove…..

    • bicolokano

      malabo yan bro, annulment declares a marriage NULL and VOID from the START.

      If they lived as husband and wife for 2 years, then separated, even if they separate for 20 or 30 years – this can’t say it was NULL and VOID from the beginning.

      It is however a requisite that they live together as husband and wife RIGHT AFTER the wedding – and if they did not, this is actual grounds for annulment.

      A good alternative for now is another bill proposed in congress that makes it easy to prove psychological incapacity.

      • Jane Tan

        That would be abused in other ways though. Like in mediate punishment for crimes like murder.

    • Jane Tan

      Pfft… just don’t have sex with your partner and you can use “failure to consummate the marriage”

  • blainz

    Very disappointing. PNoy should realize in the aftermath of the RH Law that a majority of Filipinos are both in approval of his leadership and no longer in thrall to the Church.

    Anyway, it is the FOI bill and the AMLA amendments that has to be given priority in the last remaining sessions of the current Congress. The divorce bill will have to wait until after the elections, when it will no longer be a campaign issue for the Damasos to harp on.

    • speaksoftlylove

       Siguro yong jowa mo may asawa kaya gusto mo ng divorce. Yong BP mo alalayan mo ha?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

        ^ typical na malisyosong religiot ka naman.

      • abner

         haha

      • blainz

        Such filth from a proud Catholic! I wonder how many Catholics are proud of this gossipy guttersnipe.

        Your unfounded assumptions betray your lack of intelligence. Coming out first with an unprovoked insult means it’s your BP you should be concerned with.

        Alalayan mo yang IQ mo, sobrang baba na.

      • Paranaque City

        No, Catholics do not condone filthy language Blainz, but for sure no Christian fellowships or even a decent agnostic/atheist liberal will like condescending and self-righteous talks. As for the Church, no matter what you all say about Catholics, and no matter what you do, you can never put it down. It’s the Catholic church that’s open for anyone that needs something to eat, a place to stay and a refuge to go to, it’s the Catholics that run majority of orphanages, shelters and NGO’s, things that that Christian fellowships in the malls and along the road can’t do. The government can approve divorce or cold-blooded murder, if you will, but the Catholic church will stand firm. You’re saying that 91% of Filipinos favor all these bills that the Church is fighting against? Prove it. The measly thousands in these forums are nothing compared to the silent millions that crowd the Church all the time, and that is proof enough that no black propaganda or name-calling can bring that down. Just saying.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Philippines is the last Feudal Middle Age backward country,
        with horrible consequences.

        Blainz comments are always excellent,
        she is among the very few to have the head on the shoulders,
        I envy her clear mind and expression style.

      • Jane Tan

        Stop posing as a Catholic.

      • http://ourleftfoot.blogspot.com/ Tristanism

        The Atheist Circle would like to extend its appreciation to spitfire for being a, well, Catholic. Keep it up, sir. We need more Catholics like you.

        Bakit di ka mag-Pari? Mas malaki maitutulong mo.

      • joshmale2004

        Well, with gossip mongering citizens like you, what can the Philippines expect?

      • Don Dee

        This is a very Catholic post! You should be very proud of yourself for you have followed the exemplary examples of ivory tusk smuggling pedophile priests!

      • speaksoftlylove

         I am not a Catholic. In fact, I posted here repeatedly that both the Powers that Be and the Church are in this virtual realities since time immemorial. What you learned in politics and religion are virtual realities programmed into our minds since time immemorial. You learned nothing at all.,that is why you are stuck. In fact, in one of my posts, I questioned the existince of a huge obelisk, pine cone, two pairs of phoenix, two pairs of lions, a catacomb or sarcophagus monuments inside the Vatican, all Egyptian symbols depicting the death and rebirth of Egyptian’s Sun god Amon Ra. The death and rebirth is a rehashed story of death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. The same story as to the Mayans deity Quazelcoat and the same story of death, resurrection and return of the Inca’s deity Kukulcan. We all live in fantasy unless each one of us awakes by himself. Study!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

    give malacanang a year or two. bibigay din yan dahil alam nilang madaming nangangailangan ng batas na yan. palalamigin lang muna ang bumbunan ng mga kalbong obispo. 

  • tra6Gpeche

    If President Aquino is not interested in divorce law of the
    land, he should not be a coward not to explain his reason or reasons to the
    Filipino people. He should be reminded that he was elected as President to
    serve the interest of the majority of the Filipinos and not the interest of any
    organization or individual. If majority of Filipinos desire to have legal
    divorce, he should help them to have it.

  • Jane Tan

    “Valte was categorical in saying that divorce legislation was not a priority of Mr. Aquino, who is a bachelor at 52.” – LOL. Just had to put that in there eh, Valte?

    Aquino: I don’t even have a girlfriend and you already want me to tackle divorce!?

    • http://ourleftfoot.blogspot.com/ Tristanism

      I don’t think that’s a direct quote. The modifying sentence is the author’s addition.

      • Jane Tan

        Well, he shouldn’t have added it. Really looks that way when you read it :p

      • http://ourleftfoot.blogspot.com/ Tristanism

        Kakaloko nga ang slant ng mga writers e. Although I believe that this year is going to be about the FOI and the divorce bill. I am for both, BTW. :)

  • joshmale2004

    Well, Malacanang says it is not interested at this time about Divorce law and the President may not certify as urgent this Bill. However, it will depend on Congress and the Senate if someone will sponsor the Bill and may still be deliberated and passed as a regular bill. It will be up to the President later on if he will enact or veto the bill.

  • bicolokano

    disclaimer: pro-divorce ako.

    pero ang sinasabi dito is pwede ang divorce kung ang reason ay un-chastity – err pag nalaman niya na hindi virgin ang pinakasalan niya.

    Ground for annulment ang hindi pagsasabi sa asawa ng kahit anong bagay/pangyayari na maaring magpabago sa isip ng magpapapkasal.

  • gringoloco

    Well, with a gay President and so many gays in Philippines, what can you expect?

    • joshmale2004

      Well, with gossip mongering citizens like you, what can the Philippines expect?

    • rayingga

       Kapag wala bang asawa ang tao ay sure na bakla na?

    • AlexanderAmproz

      A totally corrupt killer, gambler, drunkard, womanizer with plenty children’s, an illiterate drop out was better than a horrible duende female. 
      Philippines is used to have the world worst president fitting to one of the worst country in term of guidances.
      Now it’s the first time decent President and your worry isn’t what improvement he will bring, but some of his supposed private sex behavior didn’t concern anybody except himself ?

      This show you are yourself totally insane !

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/G2UFL7BAIFFUU6TIW4FFAPTVV4 Ghost

    PNoy is still afraid of the catholic church?
    I believe his defiance of the catholic church’s ancient thinking is what earns him pogi points from most of the Filipino people.
    .

  • http://twitter.com/yoda9a yoda

    There are more important things need to done.
    Asia is a fast train economically, PH can’t afford to miss it.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/AHJZHKGAOD3KB6T6K5Z3MYBTWI undisclosed

      I don’t think the economy has anything to do with having a
      civilized way to end a marriage that does not work anymore. There are many
      reasons for divorce and often it is the woman who suffers in a loveless or
      abusive marriage. Not to mention neglect and infidelity on the part of the
      husband. Of course the other way around can happen as well but in the vast
      majority, it is the wife who suffers and put-up with the unbearable situation.
      Why must a woman be subjected to suffer for the rest of her life by anyone?

  • virgoyap

    I’m for divorce but it will be untimely if it will be pushed through because of  the strain between the Catholic Church and the present government due to the passing of the RH law. Maybe in some other more appropriate time and leadership.

    • joshmale2004

      I don’t think this pronouncement of Malacanang is really intended to avoid collision with the Catholic church to add to the just concluded RH Bill. I personally believe that Malacanang is doing some tactical move until the mid term election is finished. First thing, Campaign period will start in February that even if Aquino will certify the Divorce Bill as urgent, there will be no time for the Congress to pass the bill nor even get a quorom for a plenary session. So it will be useless and at the same time, it will create an early uproar from the Catholic Church. Second thing, during the RH Bill’s first voting and without Aquino’s certification, the RH Bill barely made it with a 7 vote difference from the ANTIs. The LP will take advantage to muster its ranks for the coming mid term election to elect more party members in congress to ensure success passing of all its bills without the need by Aquino to certify as urgent their bills. Once these two objectives and strategies are achieved in May 2013, expect the Divorce Law to be introduced before 2013 ends.

  • ThudOthwacker

    The basic unit of society is the family. These commie party list tongress persons are promoting anarchy via controversial law. Destroying the very foundation of our democracy. 

    • joshmale2004

      How will Divorce Law destroy the foundation of our democracy? USA is a democratic country with a Dviorce Law and yet democracy works very well in that country.

      • Paranaque City

        This is why the USA is currently reaping what it sowed in the past. Their founding fathers created their Constitution with great regard on God, and the US became a superpower. Recently in the mid-20th century, they took God out of the schools, and they get the senseless killing in their schools (Virginia Tech, Sandy Hook, etc.). For the sake of the democratic rights of “majority,” they have divorce, legalized abortion and now Obamacare, that penalized an employer of US$1.4M a day since January 1st for the sake of 1 employee who was not given spermicide/abortive pills, never mind that by so doing, they’re putting the company down the drain and thousands of employees along with it. I mean, persecuting a company whose owners provide thousands with livelihood, pay taxes just when that one employee can just go ahead and buy the pills herself? Talk about democracy! You guys can’t feel it now in the Philippines, but someday soon our off-springs will. Now, where is the USA again? Downgraded credit rating, business going down with their new fiscal cliff policy when most of their business would send money offshore to avoid being taxed.

      • joshmale2004

        So how does theses laws relate to killing of democracy? You have not profounded how these things would kill democracy.

      • ThudOthwacker

         Study shows divorce produced dysfunctional family. Children will undergo behavioral and emotional problems while growing up. Worst they might end up withdrawn, delinquent and with multiple personality disorder. 

      • joshmale2004

        It may. But not as the traumatic experience of children growing up seeing their parents fighting, quarreling and having affairs right their very own eyes as no divorce law would allow them to amiably and amicably separate. Trauma of seeing your parents almost killing each other but can’t amicably separate will have more psycholigical impact when children grow up instead of seeing their parents separated and happy and in friendly terms while taking turns in parenting their children in the first marriage.

    • rayingga

       explain it further please

    • boi skater

      Family comes in many forms. Philippines is the only country in the world with no divorce law. I don’t see any destruction of democracy in any of the democratic countries in the world becasue of divorce law. Divorce is between the spouses, it has nothing to do with the country’s democracy. It is the only civilized way to discontinue a marriage that is no longer working.

    • AlexanderAmproz

      Are you kidding ?

      Philippines is a horrible Plutocracy, nothing, but absolutely nothing is Democratic, as well Christian.

      In case you are interested by Democracy or Christian values, have a look to Switzerland.
      Not only it’s the absolute opposite of RP, but one of the most peaceful and successful country.
      Nobody left on the side walks, of course not one single abandon child.
      Almost unpolluted brains and Nature, even with one poor harvest a year(farmers own their land, farmers children’s enjoying among the world best universities) and none Natural resources. Everybody has a very powerful machine gun and bullets, provided by the army who never kill anybody except rare accidents, almost no killings,
      in proportion ten time less than the US, probably hundred time less than RP

  • joshmale2004

    I don’t think this pronouncement of Malacanang is really intended to avoid collision with the Catholic church to add to the just concluded RH Bill. I personally believe that Malacanang is doing some tactical move until the mid term election is finished. First thing, Campaign period will start in February that even if Aquino will certify the Divorce Bill as urgent, there will be no time for the Congress to pass the bill nor even get a quorom for a plenary session. So it will be useless and at the same time, it will create an early uproar from the Catholic Church. Second thing, during the RH Bill’s first voting and without Aquino’s certification, the RH Bill barely made it with a 7 vote difference from the ANTIs. The LP will take advantage to muster its ranks for the coming mid term election to elect more party members in congress to ensure success passing of all its bills without the need by Aquino to certify as urgent their bills. Once these two objectives and strategies are achieved in May 2013, expect the Divorce Law to be introduced before 2013 ends.

    • rayingga

       Good point

    • regd

      You beat me to it!

  • bryant85

    Mr Ubac sana hindi ebak itong artikulo mo. Using a 10 ft. pole and a radar as a metaphor to impute that Aquino is not keen on supporting the divorce bill in congress paints ambiguity meaning not a statement from the horse’s mouth so to speak but an utter gossip if one has to interpret. 

    Nonetheless, granting that your report is true then I for one is in seventh heaven knowing that Aquino is against the enactment of the divorce bill. As a believer, I am against any bill to be enacted that defies the words of God. And if Aquino is against as you’ve articulated, then my regards.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    PDI’s survey shows more than 90% favors a divorce law in the country, so I guess Malacanang’s stance is not much necessary.

    Btw, the President is a bachelor so by all means he doesn’t have any idea about married life. Better yet, PNoy should consult his sister Kris and perhaps she can enlighten him about the necessity of a divorce law in the country.. hehehe

    • justyouraveragechinoy

      Well, do you also know that you can vote more than 1 in the PDI survey? Let’s put it into a referendum para magkaalaman na.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

        I have tried to vote twice but on my second attempt there’s a message that said a sort of “your vote is already counted”. Perhaps you can do that from different locations or IP addresses but it’s not worth the hassle.

  • d2yan

    One very good anecdote about divorce, I read from Fr. Orbos’ article :

    A previously divorced WIFE FRANTICALLY calling her previously divorced husband : “Honey, come home QUICK!  YOUR child and MY child is assaulting OUR child!”

    There are 3 sets of children in the couple’s home – the children from the WIFE’s previous marriage, the children from the HUSBAND’s previous marriage, and the children from the wife and the husband’s PRESENT marriage.

    That is what divorce will bring to our country… MULTIPLE spouses and CONFUSED children…

    • bugoybanggers

      Pang AMERICAN lang talaga.

    • Tonypogi

       Isn’t this more of a reality now even without divorce? A woman calling her new mate, “Honey, come home QUICK! YOUR child and MY child is assaulting OUR child!” Wives  being abandoned by their husbands, are forced to live in with a new mate!!!!!!

      This is what the lack of divorce has brought in to our country…..multiple confused children. Only the rich can afford annulment, like those prominent actors and actresses. It is a class act where the poor are excluded.

      • boldyak

        then make the annulment procedure accessible to people…again we are supporting a wrong solution to the problem, divorce will bring out more problems…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7W7IOOVSMXPI4IM4SMGC47FS7I larry

    the government should respect the wishes and/or position of the greater majority of the Pinoy citizens, that is the essence of democracy, otherwise, it’s simply a dictatorship

    • Tonypogi

      Or subservience to the self-contradicting teachings and practice of the Catholic Church.

      • boldyak

        kausapin mo kaya kahit sinong pari at tanungin mo kung bakit “self-contradicting’ ang teaching ng Catholic Church…isa-isahin mo sa kanya ang mga contracdicting na yon…kung hindi mo pa nakausap, that means ang interpretasyon ay maaring mali…

  • ever green

    walang paki si Pnoy sa divorce kasi walang asawa…haha

  • jga94

    I think there are more pressing bills that need to be tackled first….like the FOI bill. I think that there should be strengthening of existing laws which would require spousal support (make it a crime if a spouse who is able to provide for his/her child/ren won’t) when a couple separates….accesibility of annulment procedures (which right now is very prohibitive)….etc.

    • Tonypogi

       The FOI Bill needs polishing so as not to divulge state secrets like what Senator Enrile did in defending himself against Senator Trillanes. Strengthening of existing laws when couples separates????? Accessibility of annulment procedures????? Those are precisely what the Divorce Bill will solve!!!!!

      • ThudOthwacker

        Those are not state secret. Trillanes acted on his own to please his Chinese lobbyist friends. Brady as an official of the republic. Her duty is to safe guard the interest of the republic. 

  • calixto909

    The Author of this divorce bill in Congress isn’t a true Christian, maybe a church goer or an agnostic or an atheist. A true Christian or believer shall never perform an act that is contrary to his or her faith for as earlier stated a faith without the corresponding action is dead and with one’s dead faith, the pearly gates of Heaven is closed  for hell is where you go. 

    • bugoybanggers

      Religion have nothing to do with the DIVORCE BILL. Kung gusto ng nakararami.. eh bakit pa pipigilan?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VUT4YW36QJREEGOBH5IYKNQMKI Kokak

        Agree. Even Italy, the historical seat of Catholicism, ay matagal nang may divorce law.

    • Tonypogi

       Your opinion displays your insecurity. If you are true to your faith and your spouse, then there is nothing to be scared of. besides, what has your faith got to do with affairs of the state when not all citizens have the same beliefs? Your self-contradicting, foreign-acquired beliefs had caused the dismantling of the original Filipino culture and the death of countless of Filipino martyrs and heroes. Why force it on others?

    • rbrtsmith

      of course, the author  shouldn’t be a christian for he is supposed to be a statesman. the state shall provide laws in general, may you be a christian, an islam, an atheist etc.. it’s the point from the start, that the state makes laws for all its citizen not for the catholic alone..

  • mangtom

    rayinggaCollapse Concentrate ka na lang sa iyong relihiyon at pagbutihin mo ang pagpapalaganap nito…Wag ka ng makisawasaw sa mga katoliko dahil di ka naman nila pinakikialaman. Let Jesus himself do the judgement at wag ikaw. By doing so nagkakasala ka lang.Sagut: You sound like you are the Poop of the Philippines. Congratulations. Can you forgive me, Poop? Like
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  • Garote

    Don’t trust PNoy when he says he will not pass into law the Divorce bill. He has become a certified liar through constant practice. When newly elected president, he promised he would not increase the pork barrel of congress. Next thing you know, he almost doubled the pork. Through the Sin Tax law, he continued increasing the pork by 5.3 billion at the expense of the Filipino who are suffering financially.

    He had also promised to pass the FOI bill together with the RH bill, He lied again. PNoy had to certify as urgent the passage of the RH bill to law, because it would then fast-track the passage of  Divorce bill, and finally the Same-Sex Marriage bill. PNoy is not getting any younger. On the other hand, the FOI bill does not in anyway affect his biological clock, so there is no need to certify it as urgent. The next thing you will hear is PNoy has signed the Divorce bill as law.

    • Tonypogi

      Most of your premises are based on assumptions. Please stick to facts. When your premise contains a lie, then your entire argument is faulty. For one, how can PNoy pass the FOI Bill  when it hasn’t been approved in Congress yet? Etc., etc.

      • Garote

        My God, you are not reading the newspapers and keeping abreast of current events.The facts I presented are based on what had happened in congress.Don’t open your mouth if you’ve not been reading because you’re just BShitting us. You accuse people of things you’re guilty of — making faulty arguments without basis, In short, you are an IDI@T!

  • bugoybanggers

    Pnoy, wag ka na kasing pumalag. Alam naman ng lahat na yung mga ayaw mangyari ng yumao mong MOMMY ay ipatutupad mo. Bakit kailangan kang pumiglas kapag DIVORCE na ang pag uusapan? Una sa lahat Hindi mo type ang babae, bading ka kasi.. ano pa? Sige na hayaan mo na lang ang mga miembro ng CONGRESO mag dakdakan.

    • joshmale2004

      Well, with gossip mongering citizens like you, what can the Philippines expect?

      • bugoybanggers

        pah pah ka rin ba? Pro ka ba o Anti?

      • joshmale2004

        Neutral ako. At wag mo kong isali sa kabaklaan at pagka tsismoso mo.

      • bugoybanggers

        Okay silahis..ganon nga.. parang si El Presidente mo..

  • maypakialamtayo

    di pa nga nakakapag-asawa divorce kaagad, syempre di papayag yan!

  • superpilipinas

    PNoy can’t stop it now. He opened the doors to this so called “progress” after creating the RH law. The line was crossed. There’s no turning back.

    The next congress will push for Abortion, the next for legalized Marijuana, then who knows what….Assisted Suicide, Incest… 

    • rbrtsmith

      paranoia galore..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EP6GZIMVLAHETQ6GNP5O2P45GE Dominic

      OA mo naman dre. Annulment nga e matagal nang pinapayagan ng simbahan. Ala namang pinagkaiba sa divorce yan, a meron pala, sobrang mahal pala nyan. Mayayaman lang maka afford. Yung hindi, e di basta separate na lang without legally dissolving the marriage. Yan ba gusto mo?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AHJZHKGAOD3KB6T6K5Z3MYBTWI undisclosed

    The church approves annulment for the rich and the special people with money. Isn’t annulment just a fancy and expensive word for divorce?
    A civilized society should have a civilized way to end a marriage that does not work anymore. There are many reasons for divorce and often it is the woman who suffers in a loveless or abusive marriage. Not to mention neglect and infidelity on the part of the husband. Filipino men are notorious for infidelity and having mistresses. Of course the other way around can happen as well but in the vast majority, it is the wife who suffers and put-up with the unbearable situation. Why must a woman be subjected to suffer for the rest of her life by anyone?

    • boldyak

      there is legal separation, law on domestic violence, existing laws protect women. your comment looks like women are very desperate in Philippines and as if there are no laws to protect them…in the first place, a civilized society should not take marriage as a trial and error act…

      • boi skater

        Legal separation in the Philippines does not mean you are
        not married to your spouse anymore. Legal separation is not practical because
        under the law you are still married to your spouse – in legal separation, the
        spouses are still considered married to each other, and, thus, may not remarry.
        There are many reasons why a marriage does not work. You or anybody else does
        not have the right to dictate to anyone what they should or should not be able
        to bear. In any case it is not your life, why make it your business?

      • boldyak

        I am not dictating anybody’s life…if I am not in favor of this law, am I dictating?…we have laws, and laws are made to put order in a society…shall i keep quiet if in my opinion divorce law will result in more evil in society, shall I keep quiet if I think my sons and daughter will be exposed to such kind of society?…you also have no right to dictate me on what what i should do…marriage doesn’t work mostly because of LxUxSxT of  money, sex, and all worldly satisfaction…is divorce gonna fix the cause why these marriages failed?…it will give people more reason to have marriages for convenience because they will not bear the consequences…they can escape from a very irresponsible act..where will the society be in that situation?…you want me to keep quiet on this?…no, you have no right to dictate me..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AHJZHKGAOD3KB6T6K5Z3MYBTWI undisclosed

    It is funny why this issue is pinned on Pnoy. I mean, he does not make laws, the House and the Senate do and these two branches of government are not even discussing it yet, much less approving it.

  • Paranaque City

    FYI, the Bible is still the international bestseller of all time. It’s men of the cloth that were the first scientists. You can pontificate for your stand and unbelief for a long time, you can bring out all the references if you wish, but it doesn’t change what’s written and ultimately, the truth. 

    • brunogiordano

      Balita lang sa ONION NEWS siguro iyan.

      Ang trend ngayon sa mga HOTELS pinapalitan na ang bible ng 50 SHADES OF GREY dahil ito ang binabasa ng mga hotel guest ngayon lalo na ang mga BABAE.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VUT4YW36QJREEGOBH5IYKNQMKI Kokak

      Reminded me of the life of Galileo, the scientist-stronomer. He was prosecuted by the church for declaring that it is the earth that revolves around the sun. The church believed otherwise. Galileo was excommunicated, and was forced to recant his statement publicly. Less prominent scientists and enlightened individuals at that time were burned at stake by the church on charges of witchcraft.

      It is what will happen if the church (regardless of religion) controls the State. Ala Taliban.

      Mabuti na lang may mga taong hindi nagpapaloko sa dogma, mga taong tunay na nagtaguyod ng demokrasya, at nagbuwis ng buhay. Mga taong naniwala sa universality ng kahalagahan ng pagkatao at hindi nagpatali sa relihiyon. Eto ang mga taong pinagkakautangan natin kung bakit umandar ang sibilisasyon.
      .

      • dotCommer64

        Its a myth, Galileo wants the church to “re-interpret” the bible, which the church could not do (and has nothing to do with Galileo’s findings). Heliocentrism is invented by Copernicus, which the church embraced and helped published, it was the so called “enlightened” protestants who rejected it. Both Galileo and Copernicus remains lies under a Catholic Church.  We already had the approximate circumference of the world even before Columbus set sail around it, which also has another imaginary myth that the church believe Columbus will fall at the edge of the earth, none of it is true, what the church is concerned during that time is that Columbus must have underestimated the “circumference” of the world, or it might be too big to circumnavigate that Columbus might die of starvation across the sea.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AHJZHKGAOD3KB6T6K5Z3MYBTWI undisclosed

    @superpilipinas
    “PNoy can’t stop it now. He opened the doors to this so called “progress” after creating the RH law. The line was crossed. There’s no turning back.

    The next congress will push for Abortion, the next for legalized Marijuana, then who knows what….Assisted Suicide, Incest… ”

    TOTAL NONSENSE. PARANOID MUCH?

    • AlexanderAmproz

      You are your self totally paranoid and have no idea of what you are talking about.
      Don’t forget, at first, the Philippines is none example in anything for any body, except for those who want to kill themselves or to destroyed totally a country. The Archipelago is failed in any field with very sad consequences for Pinoy’s, not only slave in their own country, but the happy one have to live their loved family, friends and country to become slaves abroad for their children’s survival, to feed the corruption who destroyed them thank’s their remittances taxes.So much needed teachers becoming janitors abroad.So much needed doctors becoming caregivers.So much needed Mothers or(and) Fathers are away from their loved one.Meanwhile their loved country is under treat of total destruction by the worst kind of worms existing, greed and abuses, lead by the Clergy, Dynasties, Trapos, Politicians, unscrupulous Officials, all of them becoming rich at once when joining the rapists Gang’s drowning the population. Their secret is to keep all as backward as possible with a fake religion, text books and laws not applied or not accurate, with money all OK, no money it’s the world worst place haunted by unfair, unlimited death and sufferances.

      Its what you are calling our cherish cultural value ?
      Plain madness turning a paradise into Hell

      Did you feel smart blocking any changes with a blind stinky nationalism ?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AHJZHKGAOD3KB6T6K5Z3MYBTWI undisclosed

    The Philippines is the ONLY country in the world without a divorce law. Filipino men are also known around the world as philanderers. I guess our mostly-men priests and lawmakers want our women to be obedient martyrs and simply accept their situations until death, forsaken any happiness for themselves.

    • boldyak

      have you heard of legal separation in philippines, magna carta for women?..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/MDAWMT3LIDHOCW7ZTSYXZEUQQ4 ghe

         dude, alam mo ba magkano ang annulment dito about 200K to 250K pesos. Hindi lahat ng pinoy afford yang legal separation na yan.

      • boldyak

        kaya wag kang magpakasal basta basta…hindi yan trial and error…at hindi yan daan para sa convenience…”Praktikal” na raw ang tao kaya yan ang resulta…at ano ang gusto nyo, yung napakadali lang humiwalay?…ika nga “hindi tyan kanin na kung mainit iluluwa mo”…ilan sa nagpapakasal ngayon isang linggo na magkakilala…basta sa akala nila makaahon sa hirap…gusto nyo dadami lalo ang ganyan…aba eh, yayaman ako nyan, hanap ako matrona pakasalan ko at sitting pretty ako kung sawa na divorce agad…ang saap ng ganyan di ba?…susss…saan patungo ang lipunan sa ganyan…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

        A legally-separated husband or wife is not allowed to remarry. Only those who got annulment can remarry. The only problem is that annulment process is very tedious, expensive and humiliating to the couple and even to their children.

      • boi skater

        Legal separation in the Philippines does not mean you are
        not married to your spouse anymore. Legal separation is not practical because
        under the law you are still married to your spouse – in legal separation, the
        spouses are still considered married to each other, and, thus, may not remarry.
        There are many reasons why a marriage does not work. You or anybody else does
        not have the right to dictate to anyone what they should or should not be able
        to bear. In any case it is not your life, why make it your business?

  • opinyonlangpo

    It is still a catholic country. It will be an uphill battle and probably take another ten years.

  • Komen To

    Hindi pa nga nagkaka asawa, divorce na pag-uusapan? Di papasa yan

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MDAWMT3LIDHOCW7ZTSYXZEUQQ4 ghe

    Bakit kaya majority ng Lalaki takot sa divorce pero ang mga kababaihan open sila?  nagtatanong lang.

    • boldyak

      baka naman mas “praktikal” ang mga babae…pakasal sa akala nila makasustento sa kanila kahit walang pagmamahal, at nang matauhan na hindi pala pede magpakasal dahil sa convinience, gusto na divorce…isang rason lang naman yan and that is happening…kalimitan nagsasabing “kailangan praktikal ka ngayon”…hahaha..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EP6GZIMVLAHETQ6GNP5O2P45GE Dominic

    Whats wrong with divorce? E pinapayagan nga ng church ang annulment di ba? Parehong dissolution of marriage lang yan, pakaiba lang e mas mahal magpa-annul. But look, mas based naman sa truth ang grounds ng divorce, like ang basehan e mga bagay na nangyari during the marriage. Annulment on the other hand requires couple to lie and question each others’ psycholigical state prior to marriage. Sa usapang divorce, lalabas na naman ang mga kaipokritohan, mga nagbubulag bulagan sa relayidad ng buhay.

    • marionics

      Probably the most idiotic
      thing I have read on
      the Internet all year:

      “A
      declaration of invalidity is a statement of fact issued by the Catholic
      Church,” they write. “After carefully examining a couple’s broken relationship,
      the Church states that a marriage, as the Church defines marriage, never truly
      existed between them. The relationship may have enjoyed some of the external
      trappings of marriage: There may have been a big wedding followed by a common
      address and the birth of children. However, not all weddings bring about a
      marriage.”

      And to understand this, one needs to understand what a marriage is
      in the eyes of the Church. Vere and Rapp, in the first half of the book,
      explore the teaching of the Church on marriage. Prior to the Second Vatican
      Council, they write, the Church viewed marriage more as a contract but after the
      Council, the Church understood marriage more as a covenant between a man and a
      woman, the goal of which is twofold: “the mutual welfare of the spouses
      (physical, emotional and spiritual) as well as openness to the procreation,
      welfare and education of children.”

      Wow, that was fun.
      Who says reason is dead in the Church? Because you could show up at church,
      blow thousands of dollars on a dress and the reception (not forgetting a
      stipend for the priest), buy a house, have kids, bandage their cuts when they
      fall off the bike, attend PTA meetings, go on family vacation, see them off to
      college, but…the joke’s on you, because you were NEVER MARRIED. Why? Because
      some Vatican bureaucrat has now determined that you never had the burning in
      the bosom that is the real mark of marriage. You never had a covenant, silly!
      So when your husband runs off with his secretary due to a mid-life crisis,
      don’t pretend to be shocked or anything. You should have known better.

      One wonders how the
      hierarchy could trust us with any moral decisions at all.

      Seriously, is
      Catholicism so shot through with epistemological pessimism that only the
      hierarchy can determine whether you are actually married or not? What is this,
      some sort of nightmare of unreason?

      The other side of
      the coin is that if the Church is so determined to bend common sense out of
      shape to keep good, wholesome heterosexual couples procreating and tithing, why
      is it so committed to excluding others on the basis of convoluted natural law
      arguments? And some Catholics wonder why people on the outside look at us like
      a bunch of hypocrites! We’re are a laughing stock even to ourselves.

      Or perhaps this is
      really just becoming some fertility cult in which the highest act of
      religiosity is approved heterosexual intercourse (missionary position) to
      produce more Catholics to fill convents, monasteries, and Opus Dei houses. If
      the first union doesn’t work out, don’t worry, you weren’t actually married.
      We’ll give you an annulment as long as you keep banging out those kids. Here’s
      a rosary and a thermometer.

      My curmudgeon
      answer to all of this is to retroactively surrender to the Jansenists and say
      that no one who is not ordained should be permitted to receive Holy Communion
      on anything more than a yearly basis, and only after confessing. That way, we
      can all be treated like the royal f%$k-ups that we really are. Sancta
      sanctis.

       

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        …humanity is part of both a natural order and a supernatural order. Because marriage is a union made by God, it is unbreakable. The Church teaches that the man and woman, who commit the rest of their lives to each other, truly become one. This is the way God intended marriage, and it is important to remember that marriage was instituted by God, not by man.

        When reflecting on divorce, you must ask yourself whose rules you are playing by when you agree to marry. “Certainly there are judges who will grant divorces, but how does God look upon them?” 

        …“After the divorce, they are not two separate individuals as they are before the marriage. They are fragments of a joint personality, like a babe who has been cut in two. That is the way God looks upon any divorce, regardless of who the person be.”

      • marionics

        ok then, i will ask God the next time I see him he he

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        One of the great tragedies in our modern culture is that the family is under attack from all sides. Countless movies, television shows and song lyrics depict single-parent families or do not include the parents at all. Commitment is replaced by a distorted notion of love where it is seen as OK to leave a relationship if it’s “not working out.” After all, they say, you only live once and you deserve to be happy. But the true fallout is rarely shown. Despite the reason for any divorce, the impact is almost always traumatic on all parties involved, especially children.

      • marionics

        take care of your own family and don’t interfere with mine

    • boldyak

      hindi parehas ang divorce at annulment…keep on studying…

  • joshmale2004

    It may. But not as the traumatic experience of children growing up seeing their parents fighting, quarreling and having affairs right their very own eyes as no divorce law would allow them to amiably and amicably separate. Trauma of seeing your parents almost killing each other but can’t amicably separate will have more psycholigical impact when children grow up instead of seeing their parents separated and happy and in friendly terms while taking turns in parenting their children in the first marriage.

  • joshmale2004

    The “Anti-Divorce and Unlawful Dissolution of Marriage” bill, authored by Marikina Rep. Marcelino Teodoro, 
    Candidate for “Foul Ups, bleeps and Blunders Award” of the year.

    • ARIKUTIK

      Pakana ng Malacanang Student Canteen ang divorce bruhahah para matabunan ang newly signed RH law. Eh nabuking sila kaya nagpa lusot naman ngayon si Noy AB na Anti Divorce daw siya ayon sa Malacanang mouth kasi > to avoid potential colession with the church daw, case closed. Hindi nila natabunan ang RH law hot meal of the day … nya hahaha…. Una sabi ni Boy AB > pssstttt …. “Bishop bati bati na tayo”, hindi siya pinansin. Ngayon naman sabi ni Boy AB > pssssttt….”Bishop, anti divorce ako, bati na tayo plissssss…”, sabi ni Bishop yong PCOS machine mo madaya ! Nanginig ang tumbong ni Boy AB, nya ….hahaha……

  • Htee

    Mga pare, mare, pro o anti divorce…relak lang kayo.
    Itong divorce bills ay pakana lang ng mga congressman at may bindisyon ng LP(Belmonte and company) para matabunan ang FOI BILL. Medyo may konting success sila dahil most of you are now fired up on this divorce bill. Besides, I don’t think our courts right now can’t handle it. Biruin nyo pag naaprubahan ito, magdadagsaan ang kaso, wala namang pakinabang sa mga huwes dahil mga mahihirap nga ang may divorce case…hehe…trabahong dagdag lang.
    Mga bloggers, magkaisa na lang tayo sa pag clamour sa FOI BILL.

    • joshmale2004

      I agree with you. First things first. FOI Bill is a must. Let’s tackle the divorce bill once it is formally presented on the floor. Pinagsasabong lang tayo ng mga anti FOI na congressmen.

  • florence457

    The divorce bill is a very dangerous proposition since it’s placing man before God. Once enacted twice that the Filipino People had defied him and if the perversion law be enacted too then it signified the kiss of death to our race for strike three, we opposed God.

    • actionbar

      Not everyone believes in God.

  • marionics

    Probably the most idiotic
    thing I have read on
    the Internet all year:

    “A
    declaration of invalidity is a statement of fact issued by the Catholic
    Church,” they write. “After carefully examining a couple’s broken relationship,
    the Church states that a marriage, as the Church defines marriage, never truly
    existed between them. The relationship may have enjoyed some of the external
    trappings of marriage: There may have been a big wedding followed by a common
    address and the birth of children. However, not all weddings bring about a
    marriage.”

    And to understand this, one needs to understand what a marriage is
    in the eyes of the Church. Vere and Rapp, in the first half of the book,
    explore the teaching of the Church on marriage. Prior to the Second Vatican
    Council, they write, the Church viewed marriage more as a contract but after the
    Council, the Church understood marriage more as a covenant between a man and a
    woman, the goal of which is twofold: “the mutual welfare of the spouses
    (physical, emotional and spiritual) as well as openness to the procreation,
    welfare and education of children.”

    Wow, that was fun.
    Who says reason is dead in the Church? Because you could show up at church,
    blow thousands of dollars on a dress and the reception (not forgetting a
    stipend for the priest), buy a house, have kids, bandage their cuts when they
    fall off the bike, attend PTA meetings, go on family vacation, see them off to
    college, but…the joke’s on you, because you were NEVER MARRIED. Why? Because
    some Vatican bureaucrat has now determined that you never had the burning in
    the bosom that is the real mark of marriage. You never had a covenant, silly!
    So when your husband runs off with his secretary due to a mid-life crisis,
    don’t pretend to be shocked or anything. You should have known better.

    One wonders how the
    hierarchy could trust us with any moral decisions at all.

    Seriously, is
    Catholicism so shot through with epistemological pessimism that only the
    hierarchy can determine whether you are actually married or not? What is this,
    some sort of nightmare of unreason?

    The other side of
    the coin is that if the Church is so determined to bend common sense out of
    shape to keep good, wholesome heterosexual couples procreating and tithing, why
    is it so committed to excluding others on the basis of convoluted natural law
    arguments? And some Catholics wonder why people on the outside look at us like
    a bunch of hypocrites! We’re are a laughing stock even to ourselves.

    Or perhaps this is
    really just becoming some fertility cult in which the highest act of
    religiosity is approved heterosexual intercourse (missionary position) to
    produce more Catholics to fill convents, monasteries, and Opus Dei houses. If
    the first union doesn’t work out, don’t worry, you weren’t actually married.
    We’ll give you an annulment as long as you keep banging out those kids. Here’s
    a rosary and a thermometer.

    My curmudgeon
    answer to all of this is to retroactively surrender to the Jansenists and say
    that no one who is not ordained should be permitted to receive Holy Communion
    on anything more than a yearly basis, and only after confessing. That way, we
    can all be treated like the royal f%$k-ups that we really are. Sancta
    sanctis.

     

  • Pitbulldog

    Pwede ba, wag ka nang makialam P-noy dahil wala kang idi-divorce.  Pagsabihan mo na rin si Belmonte na wag makisawsaw dyan.  Hayaan nyo na lang si Pia at ang Gabriela na sawsawan nila sa issue na yan…

  • Pitbulldog

    For all those of you idiots who do not believe in the sanctity of marriage, you have all the choices in your lives to make.  Stay single and do not marry period.  Satisfy to the fullest your carnal obsessions and desires.  That way you can do whatever you want and nobody to blame later just because you believe the Church and the system were so indifferent to you.  Yon namang nakatali na, hintayin nyo na lang ang reincarnation nyo, baka sakali may chance na kayo non.

    • jurbinsky77

      I like this post, it sums up all that there is.

  • Albert Einstien

    some people here are confused…if you are pro-divorce they already equate it as anti-marriage already…they will provide statistics about the children of a divorced family..BUT they CONVENIENTLY FAILed to SHOW what about those MULTITUDES of CHILDREN suffering under a HELL like marriage..it is more than a WAR ZONE..it is a HAND to HAND combat already….both spouses think that the enemy is from within and they just attack its other at any given time….that is worst torture a whole family can get… the effect on the children is WORST….what is more worst than DAILY hell like living…we are pro-marriage but with a safety net or fail safe device ..in case of failed marriages..that should be clear folks….. ” every one deserves a second chance “..to be happy….

    those men who do not want divorce are SELFISH….they can have as many as ten MISTRESSES but they want to IMPRISON for life their lonely,abused, battered & faithful wives….pitiful….like MANY of our POLITICIANS they PATRONIZE the KABIT SYSTEM….divorce is the KEY & empowering women to remove & UNLOCK the shackles of SLAVERY & PRISON…..HINDI nyo na kelangan lumayo TINGNAN nyo mga POLITIKO sa lugar nyo..yung mga KABIT nasa condo at mamahaling subdivisyon panay byahe sa abroad at me magagarang KOTSE ( galing lahat sa PORK BARREL ) …yun TUNAY na asawa nasa LUMANG BAHAY…aping-api..nagco-commute lang….: > )

    it is proven that humans are polygamous by nature……that is why there’s so much HATE & crimes of unfaithfulness, bigamy,concubinage & adultery instead of LOVE because ..our moral crusaders dictate what is UNNATURAL..they sentence for life each SOUL to PRISON by MARRIAGE….one partner for LIFE…it is HYPOCRISY plain & simple…why will you imprison your self for eternity…if LOVE is no longer there or if marriage is against free will..or by immaturity.. NO second chance to correct the UNFORGIVABLE youthful indiscretion ..EVEN the MOST dangerous & dreaded CRIMINALS are given a second chance in LIFE..they are pardoned or given amnesty…even christ himself forgave those who sinned against him….and said.. “Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing.” …yet he is god we are but human..and we can not even forgive ourselves for a SINGLE indiscretion ?…..everyone wants freedom ..but they are imprisoned & trapped by marriage…… marriage is either hell or heaven….but it is a prison cell.. good if it is heaven..pitiful if hell…..who among you wants to live in HELL everyday for the REST of your MISERABLE LIFE……..

    .my friends to simplify things in every house there is a window…a house without a window is PRISON….same with marriage without divorce …..is LIFE’s prison…….window serves as fire exit….so as divorce in marriage…..same with parachutes there is ALWAYS a FAIL SAFE..

    .

    • joshmale2004

      Same with my comment below. A trauma they will bring with their memory until the end.

      • Albert Einstien

        correct my friend :  > )

    • Count du Fount de Cakes

      well I kind of agree with you on this matter.

  • joshmale2004

    MGA PRO DIVORCE AT ANTI DIVORCE POSTERS. DI BA KAYO NAKAKAHALATA SA MGA CONGRESSMEN NATIN. PINAGSASABONG NA KAYO KAHIT WALA PA SA FLOOR ANG DIVORCE BILL. ETO AY PARA MAWALA ANG ATTENTION NINYO SA NEXT IMPORTANT BILL  WHICH IS FOI. RIDE ON LANG GINAGAWA SA INYO NG MGA ANTI FOI NA CONGRESSMEN NATIN AT SUMAKAY NAMAN NA AGAD KAYO. FOI BILL FIRST AT SAKA TAYO MAG AWAY AWAY SA DIVORCE BILL PAG NASA FLOOR NA,.

    • jga94

      Correct ka…hindi lang yung FOI Bill….pati na yung people’s initiative for them to pass an ANTI-DYNASTY BILL…..wag the dog ito….they are trying to divide the nation by using a hotly contested issue which is the divorce bill….

  • tarikan

    Wala naman kasing idi-divorce si PNoy eh. At 52 still masturbating, yack kadiri. Don’t you know that Ms. Valte?

  • jga94

    Another hotly contested issue…there are more pressing issues I think–one is the FOI Bill and the initiative for them to pass an anti-dynasty bill. I am not against it nor am I actively for it….I have been raised in a household with parents whose relationship have lasted until one passed away …their relationship was not perfect and they have had difficult situations but they have managed to weather these…I am not married myself so maybe I cannot fully emphatize with those who are so passionate about this….

    Meron naman kasing legal separation, annulment so I do not know….ang mahalaga para sa akin…sa opinion ko lang…ay yung legalities kapag naglegal separation….yung sa mga insurance, inheritance, financial support for the spouse and children…..such things can be addressed with amendments to existing laws….but what do I know right…..yung iba kasi dyan parang galit na galit….

    Yung kasing na-oobserve ko sa US halimbawa…parang laro lang yung marriage kasi it is so easy to get out of…..and I don’t think that is good at all for the family which is the basic unit of society….

    Again, I am not totally against this but I am not so supportive of it either…I have to see the merits of this first….

  • Pitbulldog

    Ano nga ba ang logic ng divorce na ito?  May legal separation na tayo di ba o annulmement kung ano gusto mo?  Kung di na kaya, e di maghiwalay using whatever method.  Iyon lang pala ang gusto niyo kalayaan na humiwalay dahil sa kung ano anung ka-lechehan.  E di maghiwalay thru legal separation or anulment.  Ngayon bakit divorce pa?  Gusto nyong maka dagit uli, lalaki ka man o babae.  Di na logical ang dahilan na yan.  Nakasaga ka na ng mga naging supling mo, gusto mo pa uling mag-try pa.  Ano ba maliwanag diyan? Kakatihan na di ba?

    • Alejandro Canda

      Sa ating batas kasi, kung legal separation lang, hindi madissolve ang marriage so in effect separated in bed and in board lang ang mag-asawa. Mahirap ito kasi ang properties ay considered pa rin as conjugal. so lalo itong magbigay ng kaguluhan. Sa annulment na man, ang proceso is very stringent at magastos bagay na ang mga maykaya lang ang pwedeng maka avail. In effect and mga walang kaya ay denied of access to the court, bagay na resulting to inequities sa mga pilipinong mahirap. Sa divorce, madali lang ang proceso at ang mga mag asawang ayaw na ayaw na talaga ay hindi mahihirapan. Bakit pilitin pa ang mga mag asawa kung ayaw na talaga nila sa isa’t isa. Alam naman natin na dehado dito ang babae kasi bugbug lang ang aabutin nya. Kung may kapatid kang babae na ganito ang pamumuhay, papayag ka kaya? Siguro gustohin mo na rin ang divorce, di ba?

      • Pitbulldog

        Iyon na rin ang sinasabi ko di ba?  Kung di na kaya ang gulpi, di humiwalay.  Sinabi ko bang di puwede humiwalay dahil bawal, e pwede naman di ba? At sa sinabi mo sa comment mo, may provisions dinnaman for child support and family assistance ang annulment at legal separation di ba?.  Di ko kabisado ang methodolgies ng annulment pero pagkintindi ko may provisions din yata yan about conjugal properties.  Better yet yong mga na-annul magbigay ng comments dyan, at saka sabihin nila sarap pala ng na-annul dahil “it is showtime”, free as a bird na naman sila.  Ngayon kung hahaluan ng hatian on conjugal properties, then maliwanag na pumapasok na rin ang materyalistikong pananaw ng mga kasangkot diyan.  Kung sino mas meron, siya mas talo.  People should be aware that there are a lot of negative social, moral implications and consequences sa divorce.  Dapat alam, nila yan. Di puro sarap, kalayaan at kapayapaan ng isipan na tulad ng pinagngangawa ng mga proponents nito. 

    • Albert Einstien

      MY friend…yun legal separation walang dissolution ng kasal..there is an  ocean of  difference among  Declaration of Nullity of Marriage ,  Annulment of Marriage & divorce even all of them dissolve the marriage  : ALL lies on their grounds & effects on property regime …

      Declaration of Nullity covers void marriages while annulment deals only with voidable marriages. A void marriage means it does not exist from the start or its inception ( court will issue declaration ) while a voidable marriage means that the marriage is valid until terminated by the court…. while divorce will serve as a scalpel removing the abscesses of married life..allowing a formation of NEW productive cell of maried life.

      .ANNULMENT ( voidable marriage ) grounds :
      1. Absence of Parental Consent 2. Insanity 3. Fraud 4. Force, Intimidation, Undue Influence 5. Impotence 6. Sexually Transmitted Disease (STD)

      DECLARATION of NULLITY ( void ) grounds : can be found in several provisions of the Family Code. These are Articles 4, 35, 36, 37, 38, 40, 41, 44 and 53 in relation to Article 52 of the Family Code…most common is sec 36 psychological incapacity.meaning of “psychological incapacity” the most serious cases of personality disorders clearly demonstrative of an utter insensitivity or inability to give meaning and significance to the marriage… mga mayayaman, artista at mga sikat ito ang favorite loophole..

      both annulment & nullity of marriage entail litany of exhorbitant expenses and almost infinite time to process….too brutal,costly & taxing…only the FILTHY RICH can afford..

      i just HOPE the only requirement for DIVORCE…is the MERE filing in court of divorce petition by any of the spouses with 6 month cooling off period & make it free …otherwise such law will be useless & classified either as annulment of marriage ( voidable )  or declation of nullity ( void ab initio )…..  : > )

      • Pitbulldog

        Divorce is not the cure to the social ills, enmities and misunderstanding  between spouses as you want to impress upon people.  It won’t strengthent family ties  and values rather weaken and scuttle it.  In our own way, we have the elders and parents who participate in trying to patch up differences between spouses.  And they still do, their influence on married copules is still strong.  We are not a loose,  perverted society at the level of the US. You sound like a lawyer.  Surely lots of lawyers and lawyers to be will be very delighted about this proposition, no matter how untimely and stupid it is.  If passed, Divorce Lawyers will soon permeate the legal  profession.  You will be called Divorce Specialist.  Meaning, one who specializes in the affairs of people who want a divorce, make sure they get it; and for those un-divorced, will find a way that they surely get one, he he.  For a fat fee of course.

      • Albert Einstien

        you are correct my friend…about family ties..no argument about the elders & parents trying to save FAILing  MARRIAGES….after exhaustion of that last resort of  filial mediation..the spouses still in full battle gears…we have no more other  remedy but a fail safe mechanism of divorce…DIVORCE comes only of course AFTER the spouses found themselves having  IRRECONCILABLE DIFFERENCES….that’s what divorce is ONLY for FAILED MARRIAGES….the couples who LOVE its other with brustling  perfect marriages  & to religious couples who believed in their church teachings  are exempted from divorce….because DIVORCE is meant only for those who WANTED to be SAVED &  who wants to avail the remedy provided by  law ….it is PURELY optional …it is adjunct to freedom of choice & liberty… : > )

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GEL5M676WZ7BLFR4SNH66WKRZM Bigboy I

    someone is too chicken to face up the catholic church bok bakak! let the majority of the people be heard. 

  • malek_abdul

    If divorce bill is passed into law….it doesn’t mean that all married couple will divorce his/her spouse. This will only apply to those who have unsuccessful and unhappy marriage. Maybe in the early stages of this law we will see a great number of couples divorcing their partners but these are the couples who are already separated illegally and just wanna legalize their separation.

    The “Anti-Divorce and Unlawful Dissolution of Marriage” bill, authored by Marikina Rep. Marcelino Teodoro, seeks a “guarantee that no legislation encouraging or facilitating the dissolution of marriage and recognizing divorce shall be passed.” – This is a stupid bill kasi gagawing ilegal ang pagpasa ng divorce law sa hinaharap at may kaakibat na multa at pagkakakulong. Sarado at barado ang utak nitong si Marcelino Teodoro. What may be inapplicable today maybe applicable in the future.

    • Albert Einstien

      NO DIVORCE law..would be unconstitutional….MOST congressmen  don’t know their  law…it is ONLY in a CONSTITUTION that prohibition of future laws can be had..because of supremacy of the constitution doctrine…even if they pass that law of NO-DIVORCE…the day after a new law repealing it can be had…that is why ..my advocacy is that our youth TODAY should NOW HANDLE their own  destiny..not some MORONIC leaders pretending to be STRAIGHT & intelligent… lol

  • Albert Einstien

    mga anti-divorce wag kayo mag-alala wala sa UTOS yan ng mga FOREIGN INTEREST groups…kaya hindi isasa-batas yan…..ang divorce kasi  pro-rh yan..dadami ang pilipino jan kaya AYAW nila ang divorce …kung nag-aaway na nga ang mag-asawa bakit pa sila magtatalik..kung me divorce ..aba e mag-aasawa at talik agad…..KUNYARI lang yan mga debates na yan para MAKALIMUTAN nyo ang HAPDI ng SIKMURA at  sobrang KAHIRAPAN, hanggang langit na TAAS ng mga BILIHIN, kahindik-hindik na KRIMINALIDAD sa ating LIPUNAN…. at ang pag-payag nila sa china na ANGKININ ang ating mga teritoryo…nilalansi lang nila ang taong-bayan… : > )

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6KQ3DYZP5GWHYFQOAVUT4X6JCY Sal

    kung hindi nga naman makakatulong sa economy ng pinas eh bakit pa?

  • AlexanderAmproz

    For those who are against RH bill, FOI, Divorce, Abortion, Euthanasia, Marijuana Legalization, Hard Drogue Control, Prostitution Legalization, Same Sex Marriage, Land Reform and Agriculture Organization, Social Services, Social Housing, Corruption, Etc.
    They should visit how hellish and Gomorra is this long time advance Holland compare to the Exquisite Philippines Christian and Democratic Morals Values. 
    After to have been so down visiting such a Hellish place, ADVISE your Bishop’s, all of them, to go time to time for seminars in the Famous Catholic Theology University of Leiden/Holland.
    Maybe they can get informations from their Dutch homologues to avoid to fall so down as Holland.
    Doing this they will save the country from a horrendous future.
    Almost worst than Holland there is also the Geneva Ecumenical Center and this most terrible Calvin funded Geneva University with a Theology faculty one of the main roots of this disgusting and failed Protestantism cancer, roots of an International Gang network, CICR and Red Cross, a Christian Symbol and name usurpation ! A repulsing Plagiarism case !
    Swiss too is a Devil country usurping since 800 years the Cross as a national symbol on the Switzerland flag.
    Very sad, I am convinced your Bishops and Cardinals don’t have the Balls to go to those mentioned countries to give morals values lessons. I am not speaking for the Balls about a too long “Pajero’s with Envelops” journey as they will have used a cheap airplane economic class ticket but to give advise eyes to eyes how to improve or abolish those devil inhumane laws against the Bible teaching.
    In short they should lead a world wide crusade against divorce using their purest and honest faith conviction, as efficient as a lying detector.

    Pity for the failed Bishop, God forgive, by respect to Clergymen’s I will provide them for free, Paradise entrance tickets. Now they are free to continue their nefarious activities.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DKHID3EEHTG27U5JXRIIUVKXQA Jose Rizal

    Kasi election time pa, kaya “out of the radar”…pagkatapos ng election “within the radar” na at certified urgent pa.
    Hahahahahahaha!  Magpapaloko ka pa ba?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      sinabi mo pa…LOL………………..

  • gusm

    Why must everything come down to religion in this country?
    Divorce law is a civil law and has nothing to do with religion. No person or
    religious establishment is being forced to use this law. If your marriage is
    rock solid and a model of marital bliss then that is wonderful, and you have no
    need for this law. But we are dealing with real life here and we all know that some
    marriages do break down, for a variety of reasons and a CIVILIAN government has
    the responsibility to provide the necessary laws to deal with it. For those who
    say that we don’t need this law because we already have legal separation and annulment
    in this country, they clearly haven’t done any readings on the subject thus they
    don’t know the shortcomings, time required, expense and convoluted nature of
    these two processes. They are simply not good enough for the average citizen of
    this country.

    • bahaykubo1015

      1000 likes

  • PagmataPinoy

    Marriage is an adventure, like going to war. -Gilbert K. Chesterton

    • http://twitter.com/yoda9a yoda

      nude war too.

  • http://twitter.com/yoda9a yoda

    marriage is a bubble gum. you begin with sweetness, then you have to chew it hard to get your money’s worth, finally, you spit it out.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AIPSCQM2TZQUMQ5GEIMWMWDFL4 Edward Solilap

    Mga ‘tol hwag na kayong patatali agad para wala ng kailangan ang Divorce at Legal Separation na bukod sa hirap mo sobrang laki ang gagastusin sa legal fees etc. ang importante masaya ka sa partner mo at mabigyan mo ng magandang future ang mga anak nyo.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZGVVHYTD6MRWVBLEI2UJLYI3SE Arston Vulaju

    Ibig sabihin un mayayaman lang ang puede makipaghiwalay sa asawa kc sila ang may kakayahan. go divorce bill

  • ARIKUTIK

    It’s disgracing to attend a divorce party but to sip a cup of bitter sweet wine is tempting beyond control. To be a macho dancer dancer once in a while maybe not so bad. The main problem with the word “Marriage” is it emcopass all humans which in reality are complex as in = creatures composed of gay, lesbian, Ac Dc, DOM, Matrona in botocks, Man and Woman among unmentionable name like one who are aroused by cold corpse. How can a single word “marriage “, be the absolute definition for the union of any 2 of those creatures. It is next to impossible so the earth is flung into never ending disagreement about ‘marriage’. Now then, my humble head cooked up an idea that we upgrade the word marriage. Example: 1) Holtik marriage- union of man and woman with slimmy hol and man with hardened stik. 2) Bobo marriage – union of Gboy and his Gboyfreind. 3) Bingbingka marriage – union of pompyang girls. 4) DOmarriage – Union of DOM and young pretty girl hoping for viagra salvation for DOM to rest in peace instantly. 5) DIVmarriage – a union of any 2 who does not really want each other. DIV stands for divorce. Lastly # 6) Coldmarriage – union on which the other is about to die or already dead. So on and so forth with legal rights as defined by marriage law. See, it’s so simple folks. DO AWAY WITH SINGLE WORD “marriage”. weeeeeeee >>>>>>>>>>  ^(‘j’)^  ??? >>>>>       

  • disqusted0fu

    We shall see then. Sometimes this administration is sneaky and will all of a sudden throw curve balls to catch everyone off guard.

  • boybakal

    Pnoy stand is good.
    As we are mostly Catholics.We value the sanctity of marriage
    As they say marriage is an inviolable social institution that only death can do us part.
    That man and woman is one screwed and unscrewed by that tiny little thing, especially at night.
    No matter how ugly your partner will be, you are tied for life, that is marriage, glued forever.

    What I like in Pnoy is…though he is single, he is for long lasting relationship.
    Pass same sex marriage, more beneficial than divorce.

    • ARIKUTIK

      Throw away the word ‘marriage’ that will solve all troubles. Replace it with “Union contract” on which a blank space will be provided to write down all pre-conditions agreed upon by the 2 clueless monkeys in heat. The church will decide if the pre conditions are acceptable or not. Problem solve, FREEDOM TO LOVE and UNLOVE the used up toy of the night. As for the children ? Well, No matter what, they will do the same thing when the day has come simply because the tickling heat will conquer them too. It is the heat that keeps this world revolving. Divorce is only for how to divide the loot and if there is no looted wealth to divide, who cares about divorce. Marriage is for tickling heat. Divorce is for cold gold. weeeeeee >>>>>>>>>> kainan naaaaaaa >>>>>>>>

  • joshua kings

    naniniwala pa ba kayo sa malacanang? ganyan din ang sabi nung umpisa: hands0off si pnoy sa RH bill, kesyo legislative issue daw at ayaw niyang pangunahan at pakialaman ang isang co-equal branch, the legislative branch; anong ginawa afterwards, nung lumalakas ang pressure mula sa planned parenthood? di ba sinertify niya na urgent pa yung bill at nung pasado na sa lower and upper house, quietly signed it on the feast of the holy innocents pa mandin, as if adding insult to injury…
    btw, si prof dy-liacco ng ateneo de manila dahil sabi niya, he can’t serve God and mammon…he was anti RH bill because that is his conviction being a theology teacher at ADMU…in this regards, ako ay nagtataka kung bakit sina sec rogelio singson, grace pulido tan ng COA, na parehong myembro ng isang komunidad na ma-Ligaya na saradong katoliko ay nananatili pa rin sa kanilang mga puwesto?  ayaw kong maniwala na sila ay mga ipokrito…at d naman siguro mamumulubi kung sila ay mag-resign din sa trabaho?  ang inyong pagkapit sa puwesto ay nakakawala ng gana sa ibang miyembro ng komunidad ninyo, rogelio, grace.
    at bakit walang ginagawa ang mga servant-leaders ng kanilang komunidad na ang pangalan sa english ay the joy of the Lord?

    • jurbinsky77

      Ang RH Act ba ay devil’s advocates way of damniing the souls of the Filipinos?

      Perhaps I read a wrong RH Bill document, please send me the URL of the “correct” RH Act.

  • joshua kings

    hon. secretary rogelio singson and commmissioner grace pulido-tan, 
    why are you still holding on to your posts when your community, the Joy of the Lord covenant community was strongly against the RH bill?
    same question is asked of those who are members of this community and other similar ones.
    is not resignation the first thing you have done when your boss pnoy certified as urgent the RH bill?
    what gives gentlemen and ladies?

  • Trollollolloll

    naks. sa palagay ko ang gusto ay same sex marriage.

  • jurbinsky77

    You maybe happy in your married life (without you suspecting that your wife is contemplating filing divorce). Then you are served with the divorced paper, what will you do?

    • AlexanderAmproz

      I will conclude it was a fake relationship, faster it will end Better !

  • BundyGil

    Meanwhile half the country is separated. No wonder Phil is still a third world country as it’s under the thumb of the disgraced catholic church.
    When will the people revolt?

  • rjimenez1226

    Ang mga takot lang sa divorce law ay mga taong kupal.kasi nga kupal.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KAAEZZZL7OMMZ5K4KCFETADLSM jerome

    Divorce is just an act/law/way of getting out, but what is the biggest problem afterwards is the effect on the children which is in the middle of everything. If  you are to look at this problem in the US alone how many kids ended up with bigger problem after their parents are divorce. Nagkumahog ka mangligaw./magpaligaw nakipag away sa buong mundo dahil sa mahal nyo ang isat isa nung magkaproblema kayong dalawa saka gagawin lahat ng paraan maghiwalay lang…kawawang mga anak, sila ang sumalo sa problema ng mga magulang

    • bugoybanggers

      Tama, agree ako diyan. Hindi nag iisip ang iba dito, OO hiwalay na kung hiwalay.. yung suporta? Papano na. Kaya nga ang Western Countries Tulad ng US at Europa ay 1m nalang ang layo sa pintuan ni Satanas. Kawawang nilalang..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        mas kawawa linalang ang mga pinoy nag kalat ang mga batang hubo!! pinarami ng mga cbcp obispo! salot!

  • Rolly257

    What do we need divorce for…couples who can no longer tolerate each other, separate anyway.
     
    We may be behind in technology compared to America and other western countries, but certainly, we are a better people humanity wise.
     
    Let the Philippines remained unique in the world by being the only country having no divorce law.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    philippines is the only country no divorce becoz the bishops brain wash pilipinos to be idiot and stupid kaya mag search kayo sa youtube at tingnan ninyo kung di nag sisinungaling ang mga cbcp bishops at si satanas carnival tagle kung mga sinungaling wagas na manlilinlang ililigaw ka! ng mga salot na obispo!



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