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Divorce battle starts in House; 2 bills filed

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Lawmakers appear to be on a collision course over efforts to introduce a divorce law in the country, with two completely opposite bills pending in the House of Representatives.

Marikina Rep. Marcelino Teodoro has filed an “Anti-Divorce and Unlawful Dissolution of Marriage Act” seeking a “guarantee that no legislation encouraging or facilitating the dissolution of marriage and recognizing divorce shall be passed.”

Another pending bill coauthored by Gabriela Representatives Luzviminda Ilagan and Emerenciana de Jesus seeks to amend the Family Code to introduce a divorce provision, a move floated and supported by no less than Speaker Feliciano Belmonte soon after the House passed the reproductive health bill on third reading.

The Teodoro proposal “ensures that absolute divorce remains unacceptable in the Philippine legal system, and maintains that legal separation can be availed of by spouses in (a) troubled marriage.”

In the explanatory note to House Bill No. 2768, Teodoro acknowledged that “initiatives” and “legislative proposals” to introduce a divorce law in the country had a “worthy objective.”

Value of marriage

But he said these still “undermine the value of marriage by encouraging couples to put an end to their relationship instead of allowing them to reconcile immediately or fix the same over time.”

The bill imposes a penalty of imprisonment of up to six months, including a fine of up to P50,000, on a number of “prohibited acts.”

They include the issuance of a “decree of legal separation without the court taking necessary steps toward the reconciliation of spouses and without determining beforehand that reconciliation is highly improbable.”

Also prohibited is the “deliberate intent of any person and/or the prosecuting attorney assigned in a case to induce collusion between the parties, as well as encourage fabrication or suppression of evidence.”

In their bill, Ilagan and De Jesus argued that there are “many failed, unhappy marriages across all Filipino classes.”

5 grounds of divorce

“Many couples, especially from the marginalized sectors who have no access to the courts, simply end up separating without the benefit of legal processes,” they said in the explanatory note.

Their bill covers a total of five grounds for divorce, including “irreconcilable differences that have caused the irreparable breakdown of the marriage.”

A separate bill by Bayan Muna Rep. Neri Colmenares does not advocate divorce, but seeks to make annulment proceedings more “accessible and less costly” for the poor.

His proposal recognizes “spousal violence, infidelity and abandonment as presumptive psychological incapacity constituting ground for the annulment of marriage.”

“The bill aims to address the inequality and inaccessibility that have resulted from the remedy granted by the Family Code to be free from a void marriage with a spouse who has committed abusive acts of violence or infidelity or abandonment (of) his or her family,” he said in the explanatory note.

First posted 9:38 pm | Friday, January 4th, 2013


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  • Jane Tan

    Lol @ Teodoro, so even troubled couples can’t separate? How convenient that you’re a male and how convenient is this law for guys that cheat on their wives? LMAO… I also smell dictatorship in there somewhere.

  • quirinomayer

    With his resounding defeat in the RH Bill struggle, Padre Damaso cannot still take the hint that the Filipino people are sick and tired of his nearly 500 year domination of this country. Let’s follow it up by humiliating him one more time by passing a Divorce Law. Let’s force this presumptuous hypocrites and religious extremists to accept that this country is free and not a province of the Vatican.

    AFTER THE RH BILL, LET’S ALSO PASS THE DIVORCE BILL IF ONLY TO SHOW PADRE DAMASO THAT HIS TIME OF RULING THIS COUNTRY IS UP.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZMQ75WVABSLEF2YYMKWZQJ55B4 Lolek Pugeda

      If the bill is going to be passed, it should be for the most reasonable concerns available, and not for a show of “vengeance” if you can call it that. Because if you do to backlash then it might just further blur the division of Church and State. I do expect opposition but lets not prepare fuel for the fire.

  • andresa igbac

    a divorce law is a negative approach to marriages in trouble. why can’t there be instead be a more positive law that will help enrich, develop, strengthen or improve marriages/families? or helps individuals be more prepared for a married life, if ever they do want to have a partner/get married?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZMQ75WVABSLEF2YYMKWZQJ55B4 Lolek Pugeda

      I agree, but what I’m concerned about would be its implementation. What’s your opinion on this? Mine, is that it should be feasible from the start, and approachable for most, if not all, marital circumstances.

      • andresa igbac

        Lolek, look into nongovernment organizations, development groups, civil society groups. Some of them already have programs that promote and strengthen families, and these programs are really working.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZMQ75WVABSLEF2YYMKWZQJ55B4 Lolek Pugeda

        Well, I see no reason why we cannot further strengthen these organizations, by focusing the legislative’s attention on them even for a brief time. I am sure the legislative would, after a while, be genuinely interested.

      • Jane Tan

        Its not that these groups aren’t feasible. They are. But there are times, where, partners/couples will not be able to work things out. A colleague of mine found out that both his sons in a 9-year marriage weren’t his, how would you even react to that? Would you stay in a marriage where your partner lied to you for 9 years and was sleeping behind your back? How would you even ever trust and/or love that person?

        These sort of situations cannot be resolved.

        Important to note that there is always Article 247 of the Revised Penal Code.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/RDDM5UQ45HLPPKM66KYEBCMTCE dave

      Hoping, if divorce legalized, that alimony be triple or quadrupled at cost against annulment/separation. With or without child, there should be alimony. Its also a way to protect women who will undergo stress of divorce.

  • opinyonlangpo

    The divorce bill will be a blessing for this country contrary to the teachings of the church. Many will party once this bill is approved.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

       Your spouse has a herculean task of praying for your soul.

      • opinyonlangpo

        Well, tell that to the living punching bags and those having unfaithful partners.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        If divorce becomes a law, your partner maybe one of those who will party as you anticipated.

      • Jane Tan

        Better than taking his sweet time before coming home to you.

      • opinyonlangpo

        There is divorce law from where I came from and its you who is still ignorant about it.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

         So, balik ka na lang doon kung kailangan nyo nang mag divorce. Mas madali pa..

      • opinyonlangpo

        Wow, another big mouthed Filipino. Think before you state something. That is your law, your government, and your problem.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        Anong palialam mo? Doon ka sa kung saan masaya ka.

      • opinyonlangpo

        Absolutely right. Tell that to yourself and stop pushing your opinion under my comments. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        That ‘everybody’ includes me, right? And that’s also my opinion. Don’t you know that we are in a public forum? You cannot just throw your opinion and shun anybody’s opinion. That’s my lesson #1 for you.

      • opinyonlangpo

        Well, my comments really must have attracted you. Why can’t you just post your very own opinion instead of contradicting others thru your unsolicited unwelcome rejoinders. Have some originality man. Anyway thanks for the unending attention.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        You have posted 1997 comments on this website and you still think that way. So peculiar.. Attention? NO. It’s me that gets your attention. If you review the thread, all my comments are conclusive while you are in the defense mood. And who’s getting attention, me or you? But anyway, enough on this or I will be giving unending lessons here.

      • opinyonlangpo

        You are out of line. Stick to the issue at hand. This article is about divorce law. You are getting too personal, obviously it affects you personally. There is no such thing as everyone being happy at the end.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/RDDM5UQ45HLPPKM66KYEBCMTCE dave

      and hoping that alimony for divorce be tripled than sustenance for annulment/separation. Belat!

      • opinyonlangpo

        Wow a genius in the forum. Using your “Belat!” either you are a five year old kid or you are just plain imbecile.

  • catalansbarce

    Shut up Mr. Teodoro and Mr. Colmenares.., dont introduce a bill which is beside the point
    of divorce bill. Divorce law is badly needed in this country.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZMQ75WVABSLEF2YYMKWZQJ55B4 Lolek Pugeda

    My opinion on the matter is that the government should make annulement more accesible rather than make divorce available. I encourage others to voice their opinion in a reasonable and sensible way.

    • Diepor

      I dont belive in your God and got married by a judge. If the marriage dont work for some reason then why should I have to talk to a priest about annulment? Divorce should be granted by the state, not the church. If you are religious then go to church but dont force it on normal people.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZMQ75WVABSLEF2YYMKWZQJ55B4 Lolek Pugeda

        You don’t have to speak to a priest to get an annulment. And the questions remain, what will divorce have that annulment doesn’t have? And will it/ they be worth the trouble of legislation?

      • Diepor

        If it is exactly the same then why is it a problem to pass this law?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZMQ75WVABSLEF2YYMKWZQJ55B4 Lolek Pugeda

        Because then it would be a redundant law, if you give the people two choices for the same thing, more or less, then you’re going to cause headaches rather than relief, if this is so necessary, then why not amend the annulment law to accomodate the current concerns? It would be quicker and less of an “investment” concern than to make a new law.

      • Jane Tan

        What do you care if it causes someone a headache? What do you care if it causes the person a headache to research how to file for divorce? It was that person’s choice to attain said-headache in order to file for divorce. What if the divorce would save said-person future headaches because he/she is forced to live with a person whom he/she detests or cannot coexist with?

        I swear. You people will say anything to the point where you are even going against the very thing that you are initially fighting for.

        God gave us free will. Who are you to decide when where or how a person gets his/her headaches?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZMQ75WVABSLEF2YYMKWZQJ55B4 Lolek Pugeda

        What do I care if it causes headaches? Thats a funny question because it assumes that I dont care for what I believe would benefit my countrymen. Also, if you are so confident then defend your claims rather than bash me, which is a fallacy of “ad hominem”. Mabuhay!

      • angie1875

        Divorce and annulment are not the same even by definition alone. Divorce includes legal obligations like alimony, child support, properties, etc… In annulment, there never was a marriage in the first place. Financial obligations cannot be imposed. And you cannot have multiple annulments but you can have multiple divorces. You cannot impose your morality on others. Gov’t should make dissolution of marriages simpler, more accessible financially and less “religious” in nature. 

      • carreo

        Government is creating side issues (hotly contested issues) to hide some more pressing issues like poverty, crime, economy…etc…

      • Jane Tan

        If their die-hard religious attitude won’t let them have a divorce, why should you be allowed to? :p~~ I think that’s what’s bothering these people.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZMQ75WVABSLEF2YYMKWZQJ55B4 Lolek Pugeda

        Actually, what’s bothering me is that, the more laws we have the harder it would be to implement each one, and I question whether the divorce bill is worth the trouble, seeing the whole RH law took over a decade. Expect the same opponents, so expect the same dealings. Im open to being surprised though.

      • Jane Tan

        If you’re telling me that you don’t believe in our government, then just leave the country. Simple as that. Don’t mess it up for people that still put their faith in the government. Despite the flaws, it is all we have. We made it. We have to live with it. If you don’t want it, noone is making you stay on these shores.

        All else equal, once it gets implemented, will the law benefit the country? Don’t bother us with your pessimistic, paranoid claims. Not everyone is like you.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZMQ75WVABSLEF2YYMKWZQJ55B4 Lolek Pugeda

        I do believe in our government but without my “pessimistic and paranoid” claims the government might get to confifent for its own good and if everyone who shares my views leaves the country then we wont be a democratic country since all the views would be one sided. Also you did not address my claims directly, you only seem to be interested in bashing me.

      • Diepor

        I know a woman that had annulment, she had to go to counseling in the church.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZMQ75WVABSLEF2YYMKWZQJ55B4 Lolek Pugeda

        Well, according to the proccesing, you do not need to go to church, or any worship related location to verify grounds for annulment. Double check with her, as either she went from her own free will or she was recommended and thought it was mandatory.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SANA MAPASA MATAGAL NA AKONG HIWALAY SA ASAWA KO!! 6 YEARS NA MAY ANAK NA AKO SA KINAKASAMA KO ITO AY MALIWANAG NA PANLOLOKO MAY ANAL MENT DI AKO MAKABABAYAD NG GANYAN KAMAHAL DAMASO TIMIGIL NA KAYO SA PAKIKIALAM PATI SI CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO!!! SAAN AKO KUKUWA NG 200 THAUSAND!! KAPAL MO DAMASO!!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

       ’wag kang mang damay sa kapalpakan mo sa buhay..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        MUKA KANG MONTERO 200 THAUSAND ANALMENT SAAN AKO KUKUWA NG PERA DAMASO!! DAMASO!! DI KA PERPECTO PINARUSAHAN MO NGA YUNG INOSENTENG SI GALILEO NOONG 80!s BASTA BISHOPS MUKANG MONTERO!! VATICAN SA PAG NANAKAW DI NAG BABAYAD NG BUWIS SASABIHIN MAY CHARIY PALUSOT HOY!! MILLION NA BABAYARAN NINYO SA BUWIS 17 BILLION YUNG PERA SANTO PAPA NINYO WALA BUWIS!! BUWAYA!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

         Pa check-up ka pre.. Wag hintayin lumala ang condition mo.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        ikaw mag pa check up aso ka kasi carnival tagle DAMASO!! panay padasal ang alam mo tumingin ka nga sa paligid mo pugad ng pokpok at batang palaboy sasabihin mo alagad sila ng diyos mag isip isip ka di sila perpecto mga sinungaling sila ilulubog ang bansa pilipinas sa kahirapan!! basta BISHOPS BUWAYA!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        Ang gamot mo..

      • mynnyx

        bakit ka ba nanggagalite sa pera ng simbahan eh kusang loob naman na bigay yan…………kasi may balik sa taas yan………..magbalik loob ka na………dapat ang pakialaman mo eh yong magnanakw sa gobyerno……..na nagpapasarap sa pera mo…………….

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        tanga di totoo yung sinasabi ni bishops  kinokotongan ka nila dapat buwisan 17 billion pera ng santo papa para makakain naman tayo ng masarap! pumasok ka nga sa catholic school kung mag kano tuwisiyon jan at malulula ka sa presyo pang mayaman di ako makaka afford niyan pati ang mga batang hubo sa kalye!! maliwanag na negosyo yan!! tanga mo talaga booming busines ang religion sa pilipinas di ko na kailangan mag simba god is every where sabi sa biblia!!

      • mynnyx

        hahahahahaha……..brother ed………ang di mo alam eh may libreng paaral dyan para sa mahihirap……sagot lahat ng catholic school kaya kung ang anak mo eh walang pangpaaral eh puede sila doon………kung gusto mong malaman pumunta sa ka mga catholic school itanong mo sa mga pare doon…………hahahahahahaha kaya sabi ko eh magbalik loob ka na………tama pero kailangan mo pa rin ang gabay bro. ed……..sa mga pari di ka naman pinupwersang magbigay…………di negosyo yan brother ed………generous lang ang diyos sa tao…..sa palagay mo ba magbibigay ba ang mga tao kung walang magandang balik ang pera nila na binibigay sa mga pare…………..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZMQ75WVABSLEF2YYMKWZQJ55B4 Lolek Pugeda

        Calm down and open yourself to sensible dialogue, now to begin where did you get the statistical data that the Pope has 17 Billion? For the record, what currency?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/RDDM5UQ45HLPPKM66KYEBCMTCE dave

      Akala mo naman mas mura sa 200 thousand ang alimony sa divorce. Sa divorce kung hindi ka magbayad ng alimony, makukulong ka. At sana hindi mararanasan ng mga anak mo ang consequences ng ginawa mo. Last year merong namatay sa church namen, katulad mo naghanap ng ibang babae at iniwan ang 3 anak at kanyang asawa. Nung malapit na mamatay, ibinalik nung babae sa kanyang tunay na asawa. Habang namamatay siya sa higaan, pinapanalangin nung mga anak na lalo siyang maghirap.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        iba yung sitwasyon ko sa kanya bobo!! tuta ka kasi ni carnival tagle DAMASO!!

      • http://twitter.com/akongednamzug akongednamzug

        Kung yung mga anak na nanalangin lalong maghirap ang kanilang ama ay nagpupunta sa inyong church na sinasabi , ibig sabihin nito ay hindi maganda ang itinuturo ng inyong church.

    • mynnyx

      di ka kasi nagsisimba kaya hiniwalayan ka ng asawa mo………………..haahahahahaha

    • http://twitter.com/d3marketers SAMMY

      …..MAY ANAL MENT”

      Iba ata ibig sabihin mo bro bawal yan LOL!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V5VHQBOCVKHSTJNHNES75BJKGA allan

      may anal ment…he he he

  • superpilipinas

    PNoy by approving RH has opened the doors to what people so call “progress”.

    After Divorce, legalize Abortion. Then legalize Marijuana. then legalize Aided Suicide. Then legalize Incest (marriage of cousins and then siblings)…Human beings turning to like fffkng dogs and cats just like in western countries.  

    We are so far behind the industrialization, commerce, and technical progress of the west because of government incompetence. To make it worse, we are copying the liberal culture that is breaking down their society. 

    • catalansbarce

      Malayo na sobra ang predictions mo  like abortion, marijuana and etc,.. hanggang
      divorce lang…, iyan ang sigaw ng bayan.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        May tolerance ang immorality.. That’s the wile of the devil, dahan-dahan. Remember what happened at the garden of Eden. Dahan-dahang inilihis sa katotohanan si Eva ng diablo. Genesis 3:1-7

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZMQ75WVABSLEF2YYMKWZQJ55B4 Lolek Pugeda

      Exactly, one of the better things the government can do is not to legalize them but to reduce the number of cases by promoting and encouraging education aimed at properly informing the youth on morals, such as loyalty and self discipline, and their application

      • superpilipinas

        Exactly. But our government is lazy and incompetent, thus, just implementing patches that creates more problems that solve them.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZMQ75WVABSLEF2YYMKWZQJ55B4 Lolek Pugeda

        Yes, but the people’s compliance plays a definite role, with what little impulse we get from the government it should be aimed counseling services, something that encourages citizen to act.

    • tracertony

      Yan po ang hirap sa ating mga Pilipino- sa dami ng matatalino ay nauuwi sa pilosopo. Bakit hindi na lang kaya pumirmi sa pinag uusapang issue (Divorce), hindi tuloy magka intindihan sa pinag uusapan at humahaba ang debate. hehehe. 

    • Jane Tan

      Crab-mentality. Trademark Filipino.

    • Diepor

      In what western country do they marry their siblings ? If it was up to you everything would be regulated by religious police. Why do you want to force your religion on other people? We dont stop you from being a religious fanatic, but please accept that we dont want to live like you. We want to be able to divorce,use condoms,enjoy sex, drink beer and other things without your cracy morals.

      • superpilipinas

        what religion are you talking about? did i talk about religion?

        your hatred to religion clouds your logic.

        In the US, some states allow consenting siblings to marry. Look it up! Rhode Island, New Jersey, Ohio.

      • Diepor

        Rhode Island allows uncles to marry their nieces if they are part of a community, such as orthodox Jews, for whom such marriages are permitted. Religion again. I mention religion because you always part with the church. You are a fanatic religious person with no opinion of your own.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZMQ75WVABSLEF2YYMKWZQJ55B4 Lolek Pugeda

        Pardon me, but to comment on your last statement, it is realistic for two people to share an opinion, one of them did not “steal” the other’s opinion. Using this logic, look at it in a grander scale, like a Religion. Although for the record, my impression on his first statement was not related to religion, as a matter of fact it did not enter my mind until you mentioned it. Mabuhay!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        I have to answer your comment here from the above thread.

        Your comment – “Well I don’t want to play devils advocate here, but is it a yes or no?”

        Answer: I am not evading the question. All of my answers if you only have comprehended is more than a YES. Infidelity is not only the sin that everyone is to be judged.

        When the Jews brought a woman caught in the act of adultery to Jesus to be stoned to death according to the Jewish Law, Jesus asked them; “Who among you who have not sinned cast the first stone.” The Jews ashamed of themselves all left, first the elders.

        Sometimes in our lives we became hypocrites if we allow the devil to control ourselves.

  • basilionisisa

    nagtanong muna sana si Rep. Marcelino Teodoro sa mga tao sa Marikina, sa daan, sa palengke, sa eskwela, sa mga ospital, at maski sa mga taong nagsisimba, at hindi lang sa mga pari at obispo, BAGO sya nagsampa nitong Anti-Divorce and Unlawful Dissolution of Marriage Act. He might be surprised and could have prevented himself from proposing this bill and from embarrassing himself and his family.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

      Ikaw, nasubukan mo na bang mag tanong-tanong? O baka ikaw lang sa buong bayan mo ang gusto ng divorce dahil sa cheater mong spouse.

      • Jane Tan

        Hinde lang siya. I used to be anti-divorce but, after all these years of seeing unhappy marriages that continue… Its like you’re forcing the person to stay with someone they do not love. How is that freedom?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        Talagang wala tayong magagawa sa ating mga problema sa buhay kung hindi tayo lalapit sa Panginoon.

      • dodong1

        hindi lahat ng bagay nalulutas ng Panginoon..kailan din ng sarili mong action..kaya ang tanong ko sa iyo gaya ng tanong ni Jane Tan..Gusto mo bang manatili sa isang relasyon na puno ng away at alitan, o di kaya binubogbog ka pa at nasa isang bubong pa kayo?? gusto mo bang unhappy all the time dahil hindi ka na masaya sa asawa mo?? di pa mabuti na lang at humanap ng iba? DIVORCE ANG KAILANGAN…ANG PAGTITIIS AY HINDI HABANG BUHAY!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        You are like a Pharisee. You believe in God but obey only the commandments that suits your comfort. It’s not what Christ had given us an example. In the garden of Gethsemane Jesus prayed; “Father take this cup (death on the cross) away from me but not my will but your will be done”. Jesus had taught us about marriage; “Therefore now they are not two, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let no man put asunder.” Matthew 19:6

      • Jane Tan

        Rene, God gives us hope. God is a loving embrace in times of pain. God helps us eventually forgive the sins of others. But, God, in all His power, cannot do what we won’t do for ourselves. That’s what we have hands, mouth, feet, eyes, etc for. When we have problems, we go to God for guidance, then we solve the problems ourselves. We don’t expect God to take away the problems.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        Right. If we go to God for guidance, this is what the Lord Jesus Christ who died for our sins taught us: “Therefore now they are not two, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let no man put asunder.” Matthew 19:6

      • Jane Tan

        Well, forgive me if I’m wrong to assume that you’re female but I will, for now. 

        Simple question.

        What if your husband cheats on you? With our laws, it is so easy for a married man to get away, even when having sexual relations with a woman other than his wife. Simple yes or no. Would you still stay with him?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        Did Christ left you for the many times you have sinned?

      • Jane Tan

        I asked a simple yes or no question. I don’t believe that’s an answer. Yes or no? Come’on. Let’s hear it. Set yourself up for being a hypocrite.

        Its nice when people use a question as an answer just because they know, deep in their heart, that they will be giving the questioner the answer he/she wants or even lie and feel guilty.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        You are like a Pharisee. You believe in God but obey only the commandments that suits your comfort. It’s not what Christ had given us an example. In the garden of Gethsemane Jesus prayed; “Father take this cup (death on the cross) away from me but not my will but your will be done”.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZMQ75WVABSLEF2YYMKWZQJ55B4 Lolek Pugeda

        Well I dont want to play devils advocate here, but is it a yes or no?

  • tracertony

    Time is so ripe for this nation of seemingly intelligent people to truly practice the so-called “open-mind” and stop being close-minded when it comes to divorce law. Stop using religious issues in not agreeing to the passage into law of this very very important family tool being practiced everywhere except the PHP. Why other countries which are known to be religious hardliners that PHP such as the Muslim nations, India, Spain, Italy, etc. have their respective Divorce Law? Are the Pilipinos so special or so brilliant because we exempt ourselves from embracing this important family measure or are we just simply dumb as we don’t see the true meaning and effect of it? Let us be open-minded and don’t shut our mind from the benefits that divorce law bring to all countries otherwise they would have not adopted it in the first place. Don’t you think most of us simply lack the proper understanding of what Divorce is all about especially the great benefits it brings? Let’s make some research and deeper study on it before we disagree.

    • Crysis_III

      Sabi kasi ni Marikina Congressman Teodoro, mas matalino at future-thinkers ang Filipinos. lol. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V5VHQBOCVKHSTJNHNES75BJKGA allan

    Divorce will severely demoralize the inner essence of family and marriage. We don’t have to copy all the changes of other country just because they are all doing it. Economic and trade are very much welcome but morality wise like divorce will breakdown the basic unit of a society, the family and consequences will follow.

    • Jane Tan

      So, you are saying that if your wife cheats on you, you will be okay with it? And vice versa.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V5VHQBOCVKHSTJNHNES75BJKGA allan

        Something is wrong to both of you but divorce remain is not the answer. But if one of the couple become criminally insane or homicidal then leave the relationship and seek the church opinion.

      • Datingkailan

        si padre Damaso nga po ang kasiping ng misis mo….

      • Jane Tan

        So, you would declare your wife a whore, and just to separate with her, declare her criminally insane and a murderer? Then seek the help of the Church? My good sir, you don’t need the Church’s help. You need to be put in an asylum.

        Couples may not be able to coexist but that doesn’t mean that they have to destroy the reputation of the other just to be able to live apart.

        How can you even consider to advocate the Church’s teachings when this is what you would preach?

      • Diepor

        I will pray your stupidity will be lifted from your shoulders.

    • mon key

      the absence of divorce in this country will only continue to sow duplicity and double mindedness in this country. why force a couple to continue to put up a charade when they both know that there is nothing left to a marriage. the rich are able to spend, while the poor find it legal separation beyond their reach. the catholic church grants divorce to couples WHO CAN AFFORD the cost, so why not allow the same to those who have less in life. separation is a fact of life. accept it, grow up and stop shoving your so called “moral” reasons. 

    • Datingkailan

      pano kung ang misis mo eh sumiping kay padre Damaso?

    • marienkind

       Yeah, like we’re seeing breakdowns in Italy, the very country surrounding the Vatican. Wow. That place is a hellhole. You should see it. Soddom and Gomorrah. Not.

  • jumpah

    Bahala kayo mag divorce …hiwalay kung hiwalay hehehe

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V5VHQBOCVKHSTJNHNES75BJKGA allan

    Children and offspring are the ultimate to suffer. Did they come to this world voluntarily? Do they have to live without both parents just because the parents can’t go along with one another? Most of these children will be misguided and there you go… I’ve seen these thousand of times in U.S.

    • Jane Tan

      And you want two beings exuding hostility towards each other to be around the child?

    • marienkind

       Are you from a broken family? No? Then shut up, Allan. Let’s face it. People leave each other whether there’s a divorce law or not. What the divorce law can give is protection and assurance that the children will be cared for by both parents despite their seperation. It clears up a lot of things. And the Church? The best the Church can do is offer Annulment, which is their way of saying “okay, it’s no longer a sin if we look the other way and prentend the marriage was never valid in the first place.” Where do the kids go after that? They might as well ahave never existed at all.

  • mon key

    those who are opposed to divorce are living in a fantasy world. while whose who are trapped in the legalese of marriages that no longer work live a life filled with LEGAL uncertainty, even if they know WITH UTMOST CERTAINTY that their marriage is no longer feasible, and irreconcilable with CERTAINTY. 

    • tracertony

      clap clap clap… very appropriately said… I absolutely agree. There are two major issues  where divorce can significantly help: national economy and marital woes.  I leave to the brilliant lawmakers to make research on both issues and come up with a very intelligent decision whether to agree or oppose divorce.

  • Albert Einstien

    pass it now!  ASAP… divorce is a good law…

    BEST of the BEST law : ANTI-POLITICAL DYNASTY

    BEST LAW : FOI

    BETTER LAW : Anti-Enforced Disappearance Act

    GOOD LAW : DIVORCE

    WORST LAW : RH ( Republic’s Holocaust )

    ang INDIA at CHINA.. malakas at maunlad sila dahil malaki ang population capital nila…TOP WORLD ECONOMIES sila…economic predictions by 2023 china will be at the top..but india will overtake china by 2048….ang RH ( Republic’s Holocaust ) pakana ng mga DAYUHAN yan..ANTI-progress, ANTI-patriotism,ANTI-country,ANTI-POOR & ANTI -filipino..

    .UNCONSTITUTIONAL direct violation to our PATRIMONY( our genes/race is our patrimony and should be conserved & devoloped not to weaken & eventually destroyed ) and to POSTERITY ( future generations) & unbridled INDEPENDENCE aspirations of our country & people.. we all know that this DEPOPULATION & POPULATION control system is brought to our people & country on the behest imposition by FOREIGN INTEREST( imf-wb, multi-national corps, imperialist countries etc acting in unison )….
    ” We, the sovereign Filipino people, imploring the aid of Almighty God, in order to build a just and HUMANE society, and establish a Government that shall embody our ideals and aspirations, promote the common good, CONSERVE & DEVELOP our PATRIMONY, and secure to ourselves and OUR POSTERITY, the blessings of INDEPENDENCE and democracy under the rule of law and a regime of truth, justice, freedom, love, equality, and peace, do ordain and promulgate this Constitution.”

    UNCONSTITUTIONAL..ARTICLE VI Section 26 (1) Every bill passed by the Congress shall embrace only one subject which shall be expressed in the title thereof…
    .A bill must relate to only one subject matter which must be expressed in its title…AN ACT PROVIDING FOR A NATIONAL POLICY ON RESPONSIBLE PARENTHOOD AND REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH ..clearly TWO TITLES….responsible parenthood & reproductive health…

    UNCONSTITUTIONAL & it RUNS counter to its DECLARED policy..PREVENTING occurence of LIFE…by means of STATE INTERVENTION……which is sacred in our CONSTITUTION and as a nation…EQUALITY extends to right to be BORN ALIVE without STATE or outside intervention ..STATE funding the means of PREVENTION, INTERVENTION & DEPRIVATION TO LIFE runs amuck to the bill of rights..RIGHT to LIFE, EQUALITY & EQUAL PROTECTION … clearly USE & FUNDING of RH is a PREVENTION & INTERVENTION to continuity of life…….SEC. 2. Declaration of Policy Pursuant to the declaration of State policies under Section 12, Article II of the 1987 Philippine Constitution, it is the duty of the State to protect and strengthen the family as a basic autonomous social institution and equally protect the life of the mother and the life of the unborn from conception. The State shall protect and promote the right to health of women especially mothers in particular and of the people in general and instill health consciousness among them. The family is the natural and fundamental unit of society. The State shall likewise protect and advance the right of families in particular and the people in general to a balanced and healthful environment in accord with the rhythm and harmony of nature. The State also recognizes and guarantees the promotion and equal protection of the welfare and rights of children, the youth, and the unborn

    UNCONSTITUTIONAL……”SEC. 15. Certificate of Compliance. – No marriage license shall be issued by the Local Civil Registrar unless the applicants present a Certificate of Compliance…. . excessive requirement..the family code states that LICENSE to marry can be WAIVED & exempted..like in the cases provided in Articles 27, 28, 31, 32 and 34 of the Family Code of the Philippines, …. the same with wealth of jurisprudence… it runs counter to declared policy of RH law itself..about strenghtening of family… SEC. 2. Declaration of Policy Pursuant to the declaration of State policies under Section 12, Article II of the 1987 Philippine Constitution, it is the duty of the State to protect and strengthen the family as a basic autonomous social institution and equally protect the life of the mother and the life of the unborn from conception. The family is the natural and fundamental unit of society. The State shall likewise protect and advance the right of families in particular and the people in general to a balanced and healthful environment in accord with the rhythm and harmony of nature

    .UNCONSTITUTIONAL yan..CLASS LEGISLATION against the POOR & FUTURE generation of filipinos…(o) Poor refers to members of households identified as poor through the NHTS-PR by the Department of Social Welfare and Development (DSWD) or any subsequent system used by the national government in identifying the poor. .& GENOCIDE of FUTURE generations of full blood filipinos which is INIMICAL to country’s interest & survival as a race….with the INTERVENTION of the state which leads to DEPRIVATION to right to life & POPULATION as requirement for STATEHOOD ..the ENTIRE gamut of the CONSTITUTION ( from art 1 to art XVIII) are RENDERED INUTILE & GROSSLY VIOLATED …….

    .UNCONSTITUTIONAL..the LAW specifically TARGETED POPULATION GROWTH of the FILIPINO RACE …which is a SINE QUANON requirement of a going concern,continuing & immortal STATE…” PEOPLE “…(people, territory & govt )…p) Reproductive Health (RH) refers to the state of complete physical, mental and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity, in ALL MATTERS relating to the REPRODUCTIVE system and to its functions and processes. This implies that people are able to have a responsible, safe, consensual and satisfying sex life, that they have the capability to reproduce and the freedom to decide if, when, and how often to do so. This further implies that women and men attain equal relationships in matters related to sexual relations and reproduction…

    SIGURO kung meron ng RH ng ipinanganak ang mga POLITIKO na pumirma dito..ABORTED ang law na ito…malamang nasa basurahan sila katulad ng condom…dapat ang TARGET lang ng RH yun me MENTAL & PHYSICAL problems HINDI yung poor at filipino race in general…

    GO PATRIOTic LAWYERS i-TRO nyo na agad ibase nyo dito sa arguments ko ABORTED agad yan RH…by natural death…ipasok nyo INTERGENERATIOAL INTEREST, PUBLIC INTEREST, CLASS LEGISLATION,RIGHT to life, equality & equal protection to all & SURVIVAL & IMMORTALITY of the STATE doctrines……..condolence RH….. : > )

    • Jane Tan

      all rebuked. blah blah blah.

    • mon key

      dakilang miron!

  • http://www.facebook.com/johnsimonyap John Simon Yap

    Why would you go through the long paperwork of getting a marriage license only to get a divorce? besides, d ba mas madali na lang mag convert?  LOOK IT UP PD 1083, code of muslim personal laws. why introduce new laws when meron naman pwede gamitin? Kelangan lang both parties are muslim. so convert. then pwede na kayo mag-divorce. at least kasi, meron na existing mores and social norms to handle the before during and after of a divorce. simple di ba? 

    • Jane Tan

      Not everyone wants to change their religion. Or, jump hoops for the matter, just to get a divorce.

    • marienkind

      If you’re recommending jumping hoops anyway, why not make it more straightforward so we’re not kidding ourselves? Mas simple, di ba?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V5VHQBOCVKHSTJNHNES75BJKGA allan

    Before a couple got married, aren’t they expressed heaven and earth how they love one another till death does them apart? And because of that they bear children. Then why divorce afterward? What happened? 

    • dodong1

      earth change, people change….

      • http://twitter.com/yoda9a yoda

         not all changes are good changes.

      • Jane Tan

        and you want these “bad changes” together?

      • http://twitter.com/yoda9a yoda

         Have a look at what is happening now in the developed nations.
         Sex liberation is good ? or bad ? or should be balanced ?

      • Jane Tan

        Propose a balance then.

    • marienkind

       I dont know but I bet you made a lot of bullsh*t promises when you were younger too.

  • http://twitter.com/yoda9a yoda

    A good law should make it harder to make a mistake, not easier.

  • http://www.facebook.com/johnsimonyap John Simon Yap

    @tracertony:disqus sir, please refer to PD 1083. if you choose to be able to divorce, bakit d pwede mag convert, it won’t take long. and is available recourse. I prefer congress stop wasting time making laws na meron naman pala. Of course, all will say, why do you have to change religion? does religion matter to the divorcee? what happened to what God put together, man not put asunder? I’m just saying that we have more important issues to deal with such as our economy, environment, our fricking border issues!!!!! CHINA’s at our doorstep and we’re arguing over divorce? WAKE UP!!!! priority muna please.WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT ENERGY!!!! 

  • dani77777

    Lets gear for battle. For sure, this would be as tough as RH Bill (now Law) or even worse because the Catholic Church’s income would be greatly affected with the passage of divorce law. 

    Gridley, you may fire when ready!

    • Datingkailan

      hiwalay ang puti sa de color!

  • Datingkailan

    kung misis mo nahuli mo katabi si alam mo na……

    • Crysis_III

      Sabi ni Marikina Congressman. Ok lang daw yan….No need for divorce…

      • Datingkailan

        pano naman kung si misis na ang gumulpe sa akin araw araw? OK pa rin yun?

      • Crysis_III

        Sana gulpihin nalang si Marikina Congressman Teodoro sa asawa niya para mataohan siya at maiatras niya ang anti-divorce..lol 

      • Datingkailan

        sana huwag na lang siya i-boto ng taong bayan sa susunod na halalalan…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4R3GZTGML26TV2VGS6RVHP2THM Fred

    Gustong magpakilala nung congressman ng Marikina!
    Minsan lang nagsalita at mukhang masu supalpal pa!

  • Crysis_III

    Mas sinful kung walang divorce… kasi pag nag separate ang mag-asawa, they will live together with their new partners without wedding and without anointing from the church.. What is worst they will leave behind their children, and this will be the most immoral part…

  • http://twitter.com/yoda9a yoda

    easier divorce makes it easier for marriage, especially bad marriage.

  • http://twitter.com/yoda9a yoda

    if you would care less the one whom you used to love, what else would you care ?

  • Ommm

     Any “anti divorce act” would be a pathetic attempt by the church to entrench this country in the dark ages and of course provide an advertizing platform for their business of religion.

    Recognizing the churches’ true hypocritical practices it should be noted the church does recognize divorce under Canon law should a follower have ” “irreconcilable differences” with the church….they just call it excommunication….

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      born again…palusot na naman! un nka sulat sa bible about marriage bakit di nyo sundin! di ba sola scriptura kayo! ngayon iniiba nyo nman…palusot!!!

  • Datingkailan

    I don’t get it…..annulment at divorce same same lang yan…..ok pag parehas legal….another source of income din yan ng gobyerno at ng mga lawyer.

  • Albert Einstien

    it is proven that humans are polygamous by nature……that is why  there’s  so much HATE & crimes of unfaithfulness, concubinage & adultery  instead of LOVE because ..our moral crusaders  dictate what is UNNATURAL..they sentence for life  each SOUL to PRISON by MARRIAGE….one partner for LIFE…it is HYPOCRISY plain & simple…why will you imprison your self for eternity…if LOVE is no longer there or if marriage is against free will..or by immaturity.. NO second chance to correct the UNFORGIVABLE youthful indiscretion …..everyone wants freedom ..but they are trapped by marriage……but marriage is  hell or heaven..it is a prison cell.. good if it is heaven..pitiful if hell…..who among you  wants to live in HELL everyday for the REST of your MISERABLE LIFE……… .lol

    • http://twitter.com/yoda9a yoda

       ”humans are polygamous by nature”

      let debate begin.

    • Crysis_III

      Aba ngayon lang ako nakabasa ng maganda kay Albert Einstein..

      • Albert Einstien

        BUTI naman…sa wakas TUMALINO kana..joke lang…….lol

      • Crysis_III

        E reverse nalang natin.. mas matalino ka na ngayon kesa kahapon.. lol.

      • Datingkailan

        tingin ko ang mga tao matatalino…iba iba lang ng pananaw sa buhay.

      • Crysis_III

        Tumpak… kasi iba-iba tayong na experience sa buhay…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        oo talino mo nga…suma kumlawde ka sa grade 1…brabo!!!

      • joshmale2004

        Hehehe. Mukhang paninindigan mo Divorce after RH Bill pre. Hold muna mga comments ko since I am still undecided on which to support. Pero gusto ko yung comment mo sa taas about FAIL SAFE being applicable sa divorce like a house or parachute.

      • joshmale2004

        Pare. Nakakabilib yang si Einstein. Although solid ANTI yan sa RH Bill, sinabi na niya sa akin na pro divorce siya at paninindigan niya. Ako nga PRO RH pero undecided pa sa Divorce for now.

      • Crysis_III

        I’m PRO-RH pero I’m still evaluating the divorce law. There are advantages and disadvantages kasi.. Dito sa tate, nakakasuka ang mga latino population dito kasi almost all younger couples were divorcees.. We need stronger and modified divorce law and proceedings kasi hindi maganda rin na palit ng palit ng asawa. Kahit kunti lang pinagtalunan divorce agad. Couples need more counselling first. Although, we are the only country left without divorce. We need a different and stricter divorce law 

      • joshmale2004

        Thanks for sharing your info sir as I am currently reading Divorce Laws of other countries so I can differentiate each countries’ salient features in their Divorce Laws. This way, I will be ready with my arguments once I decide what side I will support.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        san na yun pagkabible based mo? …quote mo naman un sa bible na sinabi dun ng Panginoon! Bakit di mo sundin…bakit pagaralan mo pa un divorce laws ng ibang bansa!

        di ba bible kayo, u absolutely believe everything what is written in the bible? bat ayaw nyo sundin? ano naman ang naisipan na palusot ng pastor nyo dito?

      • joshmale2004

        Whatever methods I am doing right now is none of your business.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        sa tate ka? kala ko impierno ka! kung sa bagay tutuo nman…impierno na dyn!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        maganda? anong maganda dun?

        marriage in hell? di mag separate kayo! yan ang parusa nyong dalawa kasi mga tanginot kayo! inuna nyo un sex, pera, sarili yun kapakanan kay sa mga anak nyo!

        dont want marriage in hell, separate kayo! tapos magbalik loob kayo sa Panginoon!

        Practical lang kayo kaya divorce? wowoweee….ang ngayon, pati yun Panginoon papikotin nyo sa palad nyo! Mas magaling pa kayo ngayon kay sa Kanya. Kasi modern na ngayon, divorce na ang uso; ah ganun ba? Tanga ka nga talaga!

  • Diepor

     In most divorce cases, marital assets are divided and debts are settled. If the marriage has produced children, a divorce proceeding determines custody of the children, visitation rights and spousal and child support issues.  Annulling a marriage is as though it is completely erased – legally, it declares that the marriage never technically existed and was never valid

    • marienkind

       Including the poor children, who apparently according to law, never existed as well.

      Divorce does make sense. Annulment, for most cases, does not.

      • Diepor

        My point also.

  • Diepor

    Annulling a marriage is as though it is completely erased – legally, it declares that the marriage never technically existed and was never valid. It is the same as lying. A couple can drift a part for many reasons then get a divorce and treat the other with respect.If it was legal.

  • jgl41456

    Annulment is hypocritical while divorce is practical and logical when a marriage has failed because couples fell out of love and therefore are hopelessly irreconcilable!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

    In a few months, we
    shall have the elections. Why are these family-disoriented legislators in a
    hurry?

     

    What the h e c k  do divorce sympathizers want?

    The root cause is
    unpreparedness for a lifetime commitment. 

    If a person wanting to
    marry just because he or she wants a SAFE and SATISFYING SEX LIFE, marriage is
    not for this person.

    If a person wanting to
    marry just because the girl is pregnant, marriage is definitely not for this
    person.

    If a person wanting to
    marry just because of peer or family pressure, marriage is also not for this
    person.

    There are many reasons
    such as those wanting a mate but not a spouse or having found my soul mate but
    not someone to be loved in stages of marriage, etc. marriage is for those who
    are prepared to accept their spouse no matter what happens during marriage.

    “Just because”
    reasons will not make a marriage work and it shall really be a difficult uphill
    climb for both spouses to make it work finally.

    But because there is an
    escape route called DIVORCE, these unprepared people who enter into a supposedly
    lifetime commitment are crybabies and want CONVENIENCE just like buying a
    condom or taking a pill to avoid pregnancy.

    God has planned that
    married spouses LOVE and not L U S T.

    After a few weeks or
    months or years of marriage began on a wrong foot or for a wrong reason, the
    relationship will sour and surely, the Enemy of God smiles from ear to ear to
    see another failed marriage.

     

    So, my dear Filipinos
    who want to marry a person for a lifetime commitment THINK before you propose
    marriage or accept a marriage proposal. Well, the hypocrites and great
    pretenders will say again and again – “What about the marginalized sector
    where there are many failed marriages?” Really? Failed marriages that
    result into annulment and now divorce, just in case this evil bill becomes a
    law, are not found mostly in poor families. Check it out with our greedy, rich
    legislators whose marriages are in the brink of dissolution. Check it out with
    their patrons and relatives whose annulment cases are stuck up in courts.

     

    We do not need a law on
    divorce. Instead, we need a law on strictly implementing marriage counseling
    for those planning to be engaged and marry in the future. This could probably
    include educating our youth to appreciate the sanctity of marriage and of the
    importance of preparedness to a lifetime commitment. It might be better that
    our youth marry at an older age where they are already working and making an
    honest income from the fruits of their labor and when they have already
    understood the requirements and demands of a married life. This way there would
    be less if none, failed marriages. Failed marriages need to be addressed as
    well but only to make them work for resolving conflicts and reconciling
    differences. DIVORCE is A DEFEATIST OPTION. Divorce is for losers. Persons with
    this mindset to separate at the slightest instance and call it “irreconcilable
    difference” are a coward and opportunist wanting to escape responsibility. I
    would bet that there are a very small percentage of annulment cases that really
    deserve of being legally granted by the courts such as when one of the spouses
    is insane or criminal or sex addict and similar grounds. But, grounds like
    there was no marriage in the beginning can be solved by PREPARATION by both
    parties. Celebrated annulment cases of celebrities’ smack of bad intent and
    anomaly with the judiciary paid to render a decision favorable to the party
    filing the annulment. How many are from the “marginalized sectors”?
    It is a complete lie that there are many wanting DIVORCE from among the poor
    folks.

    • Albert Einstien

      my friend to simplify things in every house there is a window…a house without a window is PRISON….same with marriage without divorce …..is LIFE’s prison…….window  serves as fire exit….so as divorce in marriage…..same with parachutes there is ALWAYS  a FAIL SAFE.. lol

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

        I am sure that you were not referring to your house…UNLESS.
        But, marriage is lovers’ suicide. If you are not up to it, DON’T get married.
        Be a single-blessed person if you must. Love in the context of marriage is SACRIFICE…not suffering as some humorists say.
        Sacrifice entails surrendering and by it, you get full rewards because your spouse also will surrender to you and that is the most beautiful event in your life when your spouse sacrifices for your sake and you do the same.

      • Jane Tan

        That’s just living in the ideal world. If you are not up to it, DONT get married. What guy doesn’t say he believes that right before he gets married? Not every marriage runs well. Reality will hit the both of you. Then, what happens? You can’t tell me that you will endure sleeping in the same bed, living under the same roof, eating with and talking to the same person that cheated on you without feeling angry and possibly homicidal. That’s why we even have Article 247 of the Revised Penal Code.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        …separation is there!

        Kala ko bible based ka! Bible ng bible lagi kayo nag ququote pero di nyo naman sinusunod…you selectively apply bible passages that conforms to your distorted understanding!

        “and the two will become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two, but one. …Therefore what God has joined together, man must not separate.” o ano, di mo naman to sinusunod…dami mo at kayong palusot! …so mali yun sinabi na ito? …You need divorce, kasi binubugbog na un isa, babaero!…dami kayo palusot!

        …ayan nakasulat sa bible bat di nyo sundin!…ano naman sabi ng pastor nyo?

      • Jane Tan

        BS. Both of you are still joined by marriage but your partner who was fooling around can still fool around? How stupid would you look?

        Magbasa ka pa ng Bible. Kulang pa. Deuteronomy 24:1-4, Matthew 19:9, 1 Corinthians 7:15. Since nakasulat din ito sa Bible, pwede din natin sundin.

        Wag ka na makipaglaban ng Bible kung di mo din binasa ang buong Bible.

        I only quote Bible verses when try-hard Catholics/Christians like yourselves who haven’t even read the entire Bible are quoting single verses.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        …BS hahaha…you got a long hard tongue!

         He said to them, ‘For your hardness of heart Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for unchastity, and marries another, commits adultery; and he who marries a divorced woman, commits adultery.’” <– as if this is being followed by law….divorce coz of unfaithfulness…but what s divorce now it destroys the family more!

        Humanity is part of both a natural order and a supernatural order. Because marriage is a union made by God, it is unbreakable. The Church teaches that the man and woman, who commit the rest of their lives to each other, truly become one. This is the way God intended marriage, and it is important to remember that marriage was instituted by God, not by man. When reflecting on divorce, one must ask oneself whose rules you are playing by when you agree to marry. “Certainly there are judges who will grant divorces, but how does God look upon them?” After the divorce, the couple are not two separate individuals as they are before the marriage. They are fragments of a joint personality, like a babe who has been cut in two. That is the way God looks upon any divorce, regardless of who the person be.

      • Jane Tan

        Good job, Mr. Sotto.

        1) You would condone adultery so divorce won’t be passed? Nice logic. Trying to uphold God’s Word in one verse and breaking it in another. Very Catholic indeed. Another example of people only quoting from verses that further their cause.

        2) I know there really shouldn’t be a follow-up to the first because your further arguments using God should already be moot since you’re already breaking His Word. Anyway, I am an advocate of the idea that if you’re stupid, you shouldn’t marry. But I don’t want to deprive the stupid people of their right to get married. That being said, once you can enforce couples to “commit the rest of their lives to each other” to “truly become one”. Then I would agree that a divorce law is not needed.

      • Datingkailan

        no one can predict the future….faithful naman po ako at mahal na mahal ko ang asawa ko kaso nagahasa ng hapon itong si melody….ayun sumama na din sa hapon si melody….pano na ako ngayon?

      • Albert Einstien

        i’m referring to your house of marriage without divorce….it’s a PRISON imposed by the ” self annointed ”  moral crusaders……that’s what i’m saying it’s all hypocrisy & BS ..SACRIFICE .if what you say is TRUE..why there’s tens of  millions of divorce worldwide, same with unfaithfullness, concubinage & adultery…some committed by one spouse  sometimes both….the SACRIFICE you are referring is PRISON CURSEd in HELL for life..if there’s no more LOVE & only hate & fighting is the daily menu for life…COMPLETE SEVERANCE is PROPER..like malignant tumor…no need to be HYPOCRITICAL and pretend to be happy while you are crying & walloping in pain… lol……..

      • $20722540

        they want divorce because its the easiest and most convenient way to end a marriage, period.  the impact of divorce is minimal to the couples as compared to the children.  if a child is a product of a broken family promoted by divorce who will tell them they can’t do it, too….then it becomes a vicious cycle in the family.

      • $20722540

        marrying someone is a risk..a huge risk but calculated risk with a reward that will last a lifetime.  if you wanna see a paradise for example that everybody have seen but the only way to go there is taking a 777300 and 12 hours direct flight.  the aircraft is like a prison no window to open, no parachute but with nice meals, entertainment, wifi, drinks, wine, etc…if the aircraft fails you die.  in other words, you have no control over the aircraft…worst than a house, diba?  so are still going to do it?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

        …wag kang tatanga tanga kasi! Alam mo na lasingero un lalaki, drug addict, palikero, sugarol gusto mo pa rin cya! 

        Kilatisin mo ng mabuti! Wag mo ibaba un panty mo! 

    • Datingkailan

      Pano kung ang asawa mo ay abroad sa America then nde mo alam me kinakasama na pa lang iba at gusto ka ng i-divorce dahil nag ka anak na sa ibang guy…..ikaw naman me na meet din na bagong girl sa pinas……ano gagawin mo?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

        Kung mahal mo ang asawa mo talaga, hindi mo papayagan na magkahiwalay kayo? Pero sa example mo, pareho kayong unfaithful, dapat nga pag-untugin ang mga ulo ninyo…madali kayong matukso..di nga dapat kayo nag-asawa.. Hayan na nga ang sinasabi ko…pero bok, problema mo ba ito? Kumonsulta ka ng pari at ng abogadong matino.

      • Datingkailan

        ang mga tao iba iba ng pag iisip….opionion lang ito at nag site lang ako ng worst case scenario….kung pa uuntugin mo ang mga ulo namin ibig sabihin makitid ang pag iisip mo.

        eh kung asawa ko naman sumama na rin sa pari…nde ko pa din kailangan ang divorce?

      • $20722540

        pareho silang silaula, eh parehong magdusa hahaaaa!!!  ang ibig sabihin doon ka sa maligaya ka, diba?  moral o immoral puede na yan

    • marienkind

      Wow. I felt like I time travelled to the dark ages reading that post.

      Listen, if youre looking at your example to justify the whole idea of having/not having a divorce, you’re looking at this with a very narrow point of view.

      Youre proposing controling the age of  marriage. Forcing counseling. What next? Certifying marriages? I know of a country that does all that. It’s an amazing place. You know what it’s called?

      North Korea.

  • joerizal

    I-implement at i-enforce niyo kaya muna yung RH bill?

  • speaksoftlylove

    People especially the Legislature led by Belmonte are making a fool out of themselves. Why enact a divorce law when you can have a shortcut path and covers all situations? Simply amend the Family Code and abolish marriage with all it’s legal implications. In that way, there will be no more need for annulment, legal separation, and divorce. Naglolokohan din lang naman kayo dyan sa Kongreso bakit di nyo pa lubuslubusin?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

    tayo na lang ang nag iisang bansang TANGA sa buong mundo. pinapatay ka na sa bugbog ng asawa mo mas iisipin mo pa rin ang sasabihin ng simbahan. TANGA talaga. buset!!!

    • $20722540

      hey baka ikaw lang an ingot.  if you are different from the others it doesn’t make you less or inferior – considering your position.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

        kahit nag iisa ka na lang naiiwan sa DILIM?

      • $20722540

        ah… mali ka naman dyan…dito ako sa malamig na lugar, masarap ang simoy ng hangin, etc

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

        baguio o tagaytay?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      ….di ka kasi nakikinig! Wag kang tatanga tanga!

      Ang pag-aasawa ay hindi biro, ‘di tulad ng kanin, Iluluwa kung mapaso – Marriage is not a joke. It is not like food that you can spit out when it is too hot to chew.

      Kilatisin mo ng maigi un asawahin mo! Di lang na compatibility nyo sa sex ang sa ulo mo! Ano ba tinuro ng nanay mo sa yo? Wag kang tatanga tanga!

      Magtanong tanong ka sa nakakatanda sayo! Wag yun bawat butas, shot ka ng shot!  Wag kang tatanga tanga!

      Sa uulitin…Ang pag-aasawa ay hindi biro, ‘di tulad ng kanin, Iluluwa kung mapaso – Marriage is not a joke. It is not like food that you can spit out when it is too hot to chew.

      Sa babae, lagi mo isuot un panty mo! Alam mo na un!

       

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

        so yung mga mayayaman okey lang bigyan ng karapatang maghiwalay dahil may pambayad sila? yung mga mahihirap mamatay sila sa bugbog at sama ng ng loob? DI KA LANG TANGA. BOBO KA PA. mag sama sama kayo ng mga DAMASO mo.

      • rayingga

         Napakalaki at mabigat ang punto de vista mo kaibigan, kaya lang sinamahan mo ng foul language kaya ang dating galit ka at di mo naipakita ang tunay na meaning ng ipinapaliwanag mo Try mo uli na magpost and this time do it from your heart para makasulat ka ng maganda.

  • mangtom

    Mang Teban, get out of other people’s lives. None of your business.Simple as that.

  • superpilipinas

    PNoy by approving RH has opened the doors to what people so call “progress”.

    After Divorce, legalize Abortion. Then legalize Marijuana. then legalize Aided Suicide. Then legalize Incest (marriage of cousins and then siblings)…Human beings turning to like fffkng dogs and cats just like in western countries.  

    We are so far behind the industrialization, commerce, and technical progress of the west because of government incompetence. To make it worse, we are copying the liberal culture that is breaking down their society.

  • zeroko

    Talaga naman itong si PNoy. Bakit hindi paunahin ang Freedom of Information bill. That is more important than the divorce bill. Diversionary tactic itong mga legislative branch natin. Ang FOI ang unang unang dapat maging batas. Make it a priority bill. Ayaw ba ng Filipino-Chinese government nating malaman ng mga Pinoy ang baho na pinaggagawa nila?

    • superpilipinas

      You hit the bulls eye.

      Corrupt government. Inuuna ang pag-gawa ng pera (Sin Tax Bill) at pag gastos ng pera (RH Bill). Pero yung mabantayan ang pera para mapigilan ang pag-nakaw (FOI Bill), ayaw nila yan!

      Hindi ugaling Filipino-Chinese yan. At hindi ko matatawag na kapwa Pinoy yan. Dapat ikahiya.

      Tignan mo, inuuna pa nila ang Divorce! Puro kalokohan at corruption ang gubyerno ng Pilipinas. Isang hakbang pasulong, tatlong hakbang paurong.

      • abner

         daang matuwid papunta sa kanilang pdaf at bulsa ang tinukoy ni panot noon…

    • http://twitter.com/erncastillo ern

      Pnoy is not a congressman. …..your arroyo the mandarambong is.

      magcongressman ka muna at maging majority floor leader para maicalendar mo ang gusto mo. ang hirap sa inyo pati papel ng presidente pinapapelan nyo…mga epal!!!!

      • superpilipinas

        He-he-he. Di ka nagbabasa ng diyaryo. Mga congressman di makakakuha ng pork barrel kung di ipapasa ang priority bills ni PNoy. Pinatawag mga congressman sa Malacanang.  Kaya nga naipasa ang RH bill di ba?

        Bakit hindi niya ipatawag para sa FOI? ….Corruption. Afraid of Transparency.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    “Therefore what God has joined together, man must not separate.” Hello Born Again guys! It is written in the bible…why dont you adhere to it? Isn’t it that your faith/belief is bible based only!
    Walk the talk bible based guys! You have many excuses to justify divorce! Practicality, adultery, battered wife/husband, etc so divorce?

    Palusot na naman kayo! Walk the talk born again guys!

    • http://twitter.com/erncastillo ern

      how can you be sure that it was God who joined them together?… it must have been a successful marriage!

      • superpilipinas

        He-he-he. If it is done by your barangay captain, it is not God who joined it.

        It is free will. It is up to the couple to make marriage succeed. Those who follow God’s will, succeeds.

    • Pangasugan

       Is that the same God who allowed his favorite kings to have harems and many wives?
      My friend, our country is secular. You cannot use biblical passages to influence legislation.

  • http://twitter.com/yoda9a yoda

    if a law causes a lot confusion, then it is not a good law.

  • http://twitter.com/yoda9a yoda

    divorce is like a snow ball, once sets in motion, it grows rapidly.

  • RONNIE858

    Divorce is just an option. Bakit kayo magagalit sa divorce bill kung maayos naman ang samahan niyong mag asawa? Para lang naman sa nangangailangan eh? Kung matatag ang samahan niyo, why worry? Kahit pa isang libong divorce bill ang ipapasa. Sa buong mundo, Pilipino na lang ang nagmaangmaangan. Baka maraming pang tao na di nakakaalam na si Jose Rizal ay patay na o si Manuel L. Quezon pa rin ang presidente.

  • http://twitter.com/erncastillo ern

    Let congress do its work.

  • us_sixtycents

     The No. 1 cause of Divorce is Marriage. Use it wisely.
     

    • http://twitter.com/yoda9a yoda

      true. high quality marriage means less divorce.

      • superpilipinas

        So instead of making laws to allow Divorce. Make laws to strengthen marriage!

      • http://twitter.com/yoda9a yoda

         absolutely, positively, superbly, Filipinaly.

      • ngidigop

        Never heard of laws in any other countries, laws that strengthen marriages, any suggestions?  Like if one of the spouses has bad breath, and the other spouse can’t take it any more,will enact a law that every couple should brush their teeth, flosh, use mouth wash,  and see their dentist in a regular basis, just a sample…

      • Jane Tan

        LOL and we have people like Albert_Einstien arguing about the requirement of a certificate of compliance from the family planning office. Again, shows that you antis have not read and understood any of the laws, and will just say anything to further your side.

    • $20722540

      or don’t even use it…live in muna, if you will

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/I4AI3RC6VZ5ZSHGN7WQGZVFITE Romeo T

    wala naman pong problema kung gusto ng isang indibiduwal na makipaghiwalay sa kanyang asawa….kung gusto nila ay kumalas muna sila bilang isang Katoliko sapagkat ipnagbabawal po ang diborsyo ng ating Panginoon Hesikristo…..kapag kumalas na sila sa pakikipagtipan sa ating Panginoon ay pupwede na lang gawin ang hiling ng kanilang makamundong katawan….SIMPLE LANG……ang mali kasi ay panghimasukan ng Gobyerno ang kalakaran sa isang reheliyon….ganun din naman ang masamang halimbawa na ginagawa ng simbahang kapag pinanghihimasukan nito ang kalakaran sa gobyerno…….walang dapat penalty o anumang batas sapagkat dapat fair sa lahat ang pamamalakad ng isang gobyerno at hindi lang dapat isang grupo ang dapat makinabang……..UULITIN KO na sa aking pananaw ay may karapatan ang gobyerno na magtakda ng mga alituntunin para sa lahat at di lang para sa mga katoliko…….at sa mga katoliko naman ay pupwede naman na itakwil ninyo sa inyong samahan ang mga mananamapalataya na di susunod sa inyong alituntunin…kung dumating nawa ang pagakkataon na mauubusan na kayo ng miyembro ay tanggapin ninyo ng maluwag SAPAGKAT ako’y naniniwala sa sulat ng mga hula na sa huling panahon ay maraming magpapakaligaw at tutungo sa landas na baluktot…..ITO NA ANG SIMULA NG PANAHONG IYON….UUNTI lang ang matitira sa mga masunurin…..ANO ANG INYONG IKINABABAHALA…..MAGSAYA kayo sapagkat natutupad ang hula….NATOTOO ANG MGA NAILALAHAD sa BANAL NA AKLAT!

  • w33k3nd3r

    hehehe nakaka awa naman ang CCP. Insult to injury na talaga ito. Mga pakialamero kasi eh.

    • superpilipinas

      CCP?!

      • ngidigop

        Maybe CBCP

      • abner

         cultural center of the philippines daw…:D

  • $14170612

    divorce bill will not suppress  the sanctity of  marriage perhaps its just the final option for the couple to decide the fate of their marriage,we should not think that this  law is a burden for the catholic church again as they failed their battle against RH bill, we should just observe how our lawmakers will tackle this issue.

    • http://twitter.com/yoda9a yoda

       adultery is also an option, perhaps for a couple to try an alternative sex to decide…

      • $14170612

         that’s  right were free to do that we have freedom do as you want were not born righteous in this world don’t be hypocrite..

      • http://twitter.com/yoda9a yoda

         hehehe, hypocrite indeed.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        I know few democratic countries where the population is responsible and can do what they want, but the education and schools are there.
        In those countries, even farmers are driving Mercedes.

        The main differences, fake text books are not imaginable and the Clergy staying inside the Churches or deported, this since Magellan time. The Feudal time start to melt down at Luther time, start to disappeared 250 years ago, no more Dynasties.
        On that point the Philippines are at last 200 Years backward.

        Life is considered precious and respected, Philippines is the opposite !

        Almost everybody own a machine guns(used to be the most powerful on the market) and ammunitions, thank’s self discipline and education “accidents” occur rarely, statistically ten times less than in the US.

      • Jane Tan

        Lol… so, just to block the passage of a divorce law, you would condone adultery? Do you know that, currently, married men can get away with cheating on their wives? Imagine that. Put yourself in the place of a married woman and you know your husband is cheating on you, and you can’t do anything about it. How would you feel?

    • superpilipinas

      Catholic Church is not part of the issue.

      The issue is whether divorce and RH is right or wrong. Your judgement on whether it is right or wrong should not be based on religion.

      Divorce is a convenience tool for stupid couples who rushed themselves into a sacred commitment. Divorce mocks the sanctity of marriage (whatever religion it may be). Allowing divorce will just encourage couples to take marriage very lightly. Worse is when they bear children.

      If they bear children, laws should force parents to take good care of their children. Laws should not allow them to conveniently create another relationship and another family. Harsh penalties should be in these laws.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GURBWYA3AIXC22EF6E6HIHRNQE Ornbort Vortingeresdemesus

        are you married? if not then shut up.

      • abner

         itong divorce bill na ito ang sulustion ng taong  matataas ang ego…na sa  bahay nila kasal nga pero di nagpapansinan…

      • Jane Tan

        When you’ve been married for 10-20 years and still have the same feelings for your wife as when you first met her, then you can judge those people. Otherwise, I agree with Ornbort. Shut up.

  • superpilipinas

    Who cares about the stupid couples?
     
    The problem is the impact to little children. Stupid couples don’t deserve happiness at the expense of their childrens welfare!
     
    Couples should be allowed to separate but not re-marry and create another family. Otherwise, their resources and time will not be enough to support their children. They should swallow their own mistake for rushing to a marriage with the wrong person. If they separate, they should still be fully responsible for the welfare of their children. Harsh laws should be passed punishing parent abandoning or abusing their children.

    • Jane Tan

      That’s a 2-way street. When the couple ends up fighting so much, especially around the child, the child is just as scarred (most times worse), as when they go their separate ways.

      If we had harsh laws punishing parents who abandon or abuse their children, we probably wouldn’t need an RH law. Problem is the issue of looking for the parent or proving it.

  • roy roy

    It’s a matter of freedom and of civil liberties. In the case of divorce, Filipino-Muslims have more freedom and rights than non-Muslims. That is not fair.

    The issue of divorce is separate from the issue of family breakdown. Family breakdown and single moms happen with or without divorce. There should be separate legislation and programs to reduce family breakdown; but again that is entirely separate from the issue of divorce. It’s a right that should not be denied by the majority to an individual.

    • superpilipinas

      Yes family breakdown happens with or without. But divorce makes it even worse.

      Divorce becomes an easy way for parent to break off their commitment. Who suffers? the children.

      If a parent breaks off from his first family and re-marries and creates another family, then what happens to the original children? They are now only given half the time and resources the breaking parent has. Why should the children suffer? The parent should be forced to provide 100% to his/her children. It’s his/her mistake to marry and bear children and he/she should bear the consequence and not the children. He/she has no right to make the children suffer.

      • roy roy

        I think a bitter experience from your past or someone near you is clouding your vision. You’re like someone who wants to ban alcohol because a loved one was hit by a drunk driver.
        A good divorce law will in fact lay out the duties and responsibilities of each parent to the children. Unlike without a divorce law where you cannot sue the other for not supporting or even visiting the children. Family breakdown is separate from divorce issue; and when there is a family breakdown divorce is actually more helpful even to the children. 
        Imagine a God-fearing woman abandoned by her husband. The guy leaves her with or without divorce. But the woman is trapped and cannot find her own happiness and it’s not her fault. 

        Divorce is ugly. As ugly as guns. But just like guns if you ban guns, criminals with or without gun laws will still get guns; but then with a gun ban the upright who just wants to protect himself is left defenseless, say in a house invasion/rape/massacre.

        A divorce law, a GOOD divorce law, is an equalizing tool for the innocent and yes as well as the not so innocent. But that’s life. We are not in heaven, we are on earth.

      • Jane Tan

        Since when is the act of divorce easy? Do you even know how the process goes in other countries?

        What if we had a good divorce law that could not be abused by any parties, would you be okay with that? It seems as though that’s your main concern.

  • AlexanderAmproz

    Why what was easily solved all around the world is so difficult in RP ?
    It could be understood in case the Philippines where a leading country,
    but Philippines is a leader with every-things bad, zero moral values, zero ethics, zero decency.
    What is happening once a while in some bad places abroad, is a way of life in the Archipelago.

    Abroad Pinoy’s are excellent and appreciated most of the time.

    Then the problem is at home and coming obviously from the leadership,
    Clergy at first as it show 450 Years of morals abuses, greed and teachings failures,
    fake text books to maintain ignorances to protect a rapist industry.

    The Feudal Plutocracy system with their Trapos and bogus administration are a disaster.

    The result, a population of starving ignorants and the Nature total destruction on the way,
    and this is done on purpose by the leading “elites” lead by the Church. 
    Every changes are risky for them, then no changes to the Death !

    Studies show the population is undernourish and malnourish with Leaded blood,
    this producing small brains for fake text books, a death future…

    A failed country to drive happy the Clergy and the Plutocracy.

    Pinoy’s are deprived of their own country, as every thing is own by few Chinoy’s, too often criminals, in fact the Philippines is the result of 450 years of slavery.

    Terribly sad !

    • Jane Tan

      1) People here are superstitious.
      2) People here can’t differentiate between a dictatorship and a democracy.
      3) People here are hypocrites.
      4) People here have the so-called crab-mentality.
      5) People here are just plain dumb.

      No offense to those who shouldn’t be in any of these 4 groups. Its just sad that we live with so many of these people that keep our country from going forward.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        We are fruits of the past.

        For the Philippines it’s 450 years of organized slavery by the Clergy with fake teachings. The obvious target was to milk dry the Archipelago for the Pope’s and the King’s of Spain. With the US domination, every things became much worst, mass murders, local true Pilipino’s cultures eradicated for ever(more or less preserved by Spaniards), pilfering the natural resources thank’s a Dantesque corruption favoring the Churches and the most criminal elite’s.
        Since 1945 the US main target is a Geo-Strategic Power.
        “Countries have no friends, but Interests”

        The main consequences, aside a dire poverty with unimaginable sufferances,
        a habit to look down with a domination and weakness feeling.
        Self proudness, self respect and dignity disappeared, replaced by a ridiculous “Macho”, violent and irresponsible, thief and robbery attitudes, Gwen Garcia families are a perfect example of the majority, poor and rich. 
        The rich one are considered successful elites model.
        Deprived of every-things, the country went in others hands, as well everybody Future !

        Democracy is the perfect opposite !

        First emergency, peoples well being and education.

        Free internet access with basics tablets for everybody could a helpful and cheap solutions. Wikipedia becoming a trustful reference for knowledges.

        P-Noy is doing his best in that direction, he need a strong support to succeed, as Churches, Dynasties, Trapos, high Officials are against to keep their undue privileges and stollen assets. Every one who don’t agree with them is tag as “communist” and killed, killing is so cheap in this country, too easy to forge the Justice system and administration with few dollars. 
        Corruption is the “System” engine and gas.

        Second emergency is to lead and own the country on a real Democratic way.
        Fakes, permanent lying and robbery habit have to stop !

        Most of the OFW used to live in decent developed democratic countries should have the know-how. 
        Hope and Justice confidence will bring them back.

        I don’t believe in “races”, with same chances, education, personal development and environement, everybody is equal, color, size, religions or what ever have no meanings, except appearances. But I noticed, Austro-Melanesians who colonized South-East Asia and Pacific Ocean about 2000 Years ago, have a natural kindness and charming expression, probably due to a fantastic Bio-Diversity well expressed in the traditional Thai or south China food culture, on the way to disappear, replaced by moderne unhealthy Junk food. For the Bio-Diversity, only few samples left with an omnipresent pollution

  • brunogiordano

    “Divorce battle starts in House; 2 bills filed”

    LET’S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!!

    Sama ako ng sampo pasado ang DIVORCE bill in record time.

    • superpilipinas

      sure will.

      next Abortion – masmabilis pa with support of Pharmaceuticals.

      next Marijuana – eh kung yung isang former Congressman nga nahuli di ba? Ilan yung mga hindi nahuhuli?

      FOI bill? siguro sa year 2030.

      • Diepor

        God made marijuana so you question him,are you against a plant made by the lord . You will burn in hell.

      • Diepor

        Superpilipinas I heard you are so hateful because you can’t get any love. It must be hard for you to be homosexual in your environment .

    • ngidigop

      Pasok na naman dito ang mga Damasos….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VFKGTH7WJZQZYQWRCQT4IHZEJM Johnny Randal

    WELL, DIVORCE IS NECESSARY IF THERE AN ADULTERY EXIST  COMMITTED BY  EITHER HUSBAND AND WIFE…………….BY ABANDONMENT  OF EITHER HUSBAND AND  WIFE FOR THE PERIOD OF ONE YEAR………..IRRESPONSIBLE FATHER OR MOTHER BY NOT SUPPORTING THE FAMILY NEEDS ECONOMICALLY…..USE OF VIOLENCE BY HUSBAND WILL RESULT THE FAMILY BREAKDOWN……..MAGUGULPENG ASAWA……….GROUND FOR DIVORCE………….

  • $37644997

    Thanks God,it won’t be me to eperience a divorce.”I’m single”

  • brunogiordano

    DIVORCE LAW ay isang solution sa mag asawang hindi na magkasundo.

    DIVORCE LAW ay hindi tungkol sa away ng mga paniwala ng mga religion kung puwedeng idesolve ang kasal o hindi.

    Ang hahatol kung papayagan ang divorce o hindi ay ang korte ng pamahalaan ng PILIPINAS.

    • speaksoftlylove

      Anong “korte ng pamahallang Pilipinas” ang sinasabi mo, Supreme Court? Anong basehan nila Constitution? Since the palace imp sat on his throne there is no such thing as Philippine Constitution. PNoy and his cohorts think that the Constitution is an ancient and antiquated document that no longer applies to his agenda. That is why he announced that there is no need for a constitutional change. What for when he can circumvent, violate, stomp and spit on the Constitution? And, who shall interpret the Constitution, Supreme Court? That Supreme Court has become irrelevant and lost it’s “supremacy” since PNoy sat on his throne. It changed it’s name to Survey Court. Any unpopular decision of the Imp is declared legal and popular by the Survey Court. You can call the new SC as the Sereno Court, Silent Court, Subservient Court, Stupefied Court and all other variations if you must,.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002666048311 Samuel Bilibit

        Spitfire….you must be the  Convicted and Impeached CJ Renato Corona…….Hmmmmmm.

      • speaksoftlylove

         Schizophrenic ka? Puntahan mo si Dinky Soliman at humingi ka ng balato. Ayun binulgar ni Teddy Casino na winaldas yong 10.5 billon ng CCT funds at nagpabiddding para sa kampanya kunwari ng “Anti Epal” hekhek. Anong pakialam ni Soliman sa election? Habang naghihirap ang sambayanan hayun pinamumudmod sa mga liberal ang pera ni Juan. Mga makabagong tuwid na satanas!

      • http://twitter.com/akongednamzug akongednamzug

        Brod, mukhang di sapat ang oxygen na dumadaloy sa utak mo. Magpa-executive check up ka, payong kaibigan lang. Kahit naman ganyan ka, malaking panghihinayang ang mararamdaman ko, kung bigla-bigla ka na lang mawawala sa sirkulasyon, please do it for your own good.

      • speaksoftlylove

         Titiyakin kung hilahila ko paa mo kung mawawala ako sa sirkulasyon, wag kang magalala.

      • Htee

        Oh, lumalayo nanaman sa usapan. Napunta nanaman kay pnoy, ano ang kinalaman nya sa usapang divorce eh, ni asawa wala nga sya noon.

      • speaksoftlylove

        Replay lang yan sa kahunghangan na sinabi mo noon na, “Ano pakialam ni PNoy sa RH bill, trabaho ng kongreso yan?” O di ba bulag, pipi, at bingi ka, barok? Sama ka na kang kay Samuel Lagalag at pupunta kay Dinky yan para humingi ng pampagamot.

      • Htee

        Wala ka kasing masustansyang argumento para sa mga bloggers dito, kaya you just resort to name calling.
        I don’t also know why i waist my time on you…
        You’re beyond help.

      • speaksoftlylove

         ”Walang masustansyang argumento?” but you are a perpetual pestering kibitzer of my blog. “Waist” your time? Hilo ka na sa inis, inom ka ng pampapurga!

      • ARIKUTIK

        Hey PINeal head, sakay ka ng sakay sa Divoce /Undivorce bill eh bagong pakulo yan para MAPAGTAKPAN ang bagong pirmang RH Law. A brainless Donk, after all …. nya…hahaha….. Nagoyo ni Abnoy ang spinFire… ewwwww >>>>>>

      • rayingga

         ”waist my time”- waste my time

  • nti_boohaya

    Pass divorce bill the soonest.  Mga anak sa labas, pagbayarin nyo mga pulutikang nambuntis ng ina ninyo.  

  • brunogiordano

    Kung masama ang idinudulot ng DIVORCE LAW, may bansa na bang nag REPEAL ng kanilang DIVORCE law?????

    A repeal is the removal or reversal of a law.

  • Diepor

    Thanks to education the grasp the church have on politics will go away. We just have to wait.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XWH5SD6XPM3XKND6PJQQ32ZRAU Mabuhay

    Ang arte nitong si Teodoro may annulment nga tayo at legal separation e, may separation de facto pa…..utak damaso rin ito. Divorce na! now na! bakit pipilitin ang dalawang tao na magsama kung di talaga pwde……

  • brunogiordano

    Pag binalance mo ang kabutihan at kasamaan dulot ng DIVORCE malaki ang kabutihan at kapakinabangan ang na idudulot ng DIVORCE LAW?

    PROOF -

    Sa lahat ng mga BANSA na may DIVORCE law, wala pa ni isa na nag repeal nito.

    Patunay na sila ay nakikinabang sa KABUTIHAN dulot ng DIVORCE LAW.

  • blainz

    How idiotic!!! Not only is Teodoro seeing nothing amiss in the Philippines being the only country without lawful divorce, now he wants the Philippines to be the only country with anti-divorce laws. Baliktad ata takbo ng utak ng isang ‘to.

    Once again, just like the RH bill, Congress will drag the country through the mud of medieval thinking and theological arguments. A refresher course on the separation of church and state should be offered for all congressmen on their first session after the 2013 elections. The time spent there will easily be recouped from all the wasted sessions on inanities original and plagiarized.

    Anti-divorce advocates should proffer a cogent argument why annulments are legal while divorce isn’t, since in practice, the substantial difference between the two is cost, affirming a double standard of law between rich and poor.

    • frudo

      sinabi mo pa baliktad talaga!!

    • Diepor

      Well written

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      like you baliktad din  utak mo!

    • tamumd

      Well said!

    • Jane Tan

      None of them can offer a cogent argument that can’t be rebuked by any educated person. They can only go at it from a religious point of view. Notice why people like mxsclxmxn can only quote singular verses from the Bible and insult people. It is for that reason.

    • AlexanderAmproz

      @blainz

      Congratulations, excellent !

    • brunogiordano

      “the substantial difference between the two is cost, affirming a double standard of law between rich and poor.”

      Sang ayon ako na difference lang ay cost.

      Kung ayaw nila ng DIVORCE, mag karoon na lang tayo ng batas na ang total cost para makakuha ng annulment ay hindi lalabis sa 500 PESOS at ang hearing at decision ay matapos loob ng 30 days.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    sigurado ako nakapalibot na naman ang kampon ni satanas carnival tagle damaso!! kaya nagiging basura pilipinas mitsubishop buwaya!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      at huthuterong pastor!

  • Iamtommy

    On the flipside, divorce will on the contrary strengthen marriages. With divorce in the horizon, anyone who is married will not take their marriage for granted. Not that it will turn out as a sort of punishment but a natural consequence if one keeps on screwing up.

  • d2yan

    So, the POOR again is being USED to rationalize divorce.

    For Congress, the WELFARE of the Poor is achieved in LIMITING their children and DISSOLVING their marriage.

    And we call it PRO-POOR…what a distorted legislature we have…

    • Jane Tan

      Noone said anything about it being pro-poor. Even middle-class people think its stupid that we have to spend so much to have an annulment. Aside from the fact that an annulment is very disrespecting of each other.

      • d2yan

        And what made you think DIVORCE is better than ANNULMENT?  Because divorce is “glamourized” in media?
         
        It’s just the SAME … annulment is bad but divorce even WORST.. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WIWYLFLU4LPKS7B2ZLLRVFKS3Y vir_a

    Divorce is bad for those who have sound marriage relationship. It is important for those not in this situation so they can move on. It is a right and should not be denied to those who made bad decisions and choices to marry. Just imagine, only the Philippines has no divorce law. Does it mean we are the most intelligent and with highest moral value? It’s a weird mindset.

  • boypalabobo

    The POOR cannot afford DIVORCE, since it is clear they cannot even afford a Php100,000 ANNULMENT.  This bill if passed into law is for the RICH and FAMOUS – their corrupted lifestyle.

    Introduce a bill to help families FIX their problems, not sweep it away!!!

    We will fight this divorce bill together with the heathens, pagans and catholics.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W6UV7JR6LDQ7YYGVAMDOBGEPIM Rami

    Majority of Fil citizenry will likely approve it,It us different from Las Vegas style wuth its provisions

  • Htee

    I’m for divorce, 100%, so don’t get me wrong. But, is our justice system up for it.
    Dagdag trabaho ito sa mga piscal at hurado natin. Back log na katakut-takot ito.
    Are we just putting the carriage before the horse?
    We must have a very good foundation under this one, or else sayang lang ang panahon at pera na gugugulin natin sa pasweldo ng mga mambabatas.
    What’s the use of a good law if we can’t enforce it…

    Unahin nalang nila ang FOI BILL at ANTI DYNASTY BILL.
    MAS MADALI pa ito ipatupad.

  • Htee

    THIS DIVORCE BILL IS JUST TO DELAY THE FOI BILL….
    A TACTICAL PLOY BUT IT’S NOT WORKING ON ME.
    SNEAKY…SNEAKY.
    I CAN SEE YOUUUUUUUUU ! ! !

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

      You have a very “logical observation” here.
      Now that you bring it up…, I believe you are RIGHT.

  • Htee

    Important requirement for filing a divorce:
    1. A good divorce lawyer – gov’t should provide a lot of public lawyer if this is realy meant for the poor…it’s a bloody fight and bribery almost often happen….so it’s not really for the poorest of poor.

    • Diepor

      The poor has nothing to share.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

      The ‘poor’ can not and will not benefit from a Divorce Law.
      How will a party in this economic class level afford to pay alimony &/or support.

      It is the “rich” who may be applying most for the usage of this, if it becomes into, Law.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        then take out the Alimony/support then so that everybody is happy….LOL……

  • bryant85

    This is the ultimate price of placing these party list groups affiliated with the cpp/ndf in congress for the decay of our morality as a race is one of their top priority since they want our country to be divided in order that they can topple down the gov’t. This divorce bill akin to the RH law shall surely divide again the Fiipinos to widen the gap that already had existed between the Anti RH law and the gov’t.

    But the worst scenario it provides directs to the probability that in the near future our nation shall be likened to Sodom and Gomorrah that due to its rotten to the core morality, it disappeared from the face of the earth.

    Praying that Pnoy, again the genuine key to unlock the door for the passage of this divorce bill shall think a million fold before he approves the whims of his allies because his approval  signals the start of doomsday

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CBBPG4SGSURB5V5A5BBQX4HF2Y Peter

      your mentality is still that of medieval period, you still live  in dark ages. Italy, Spain, Portugal and most of Catholic South American countries, have already legalized divorce, now, where is that Sodom and Gomorrah tale you’re dreaming about? Get real, weaned yourself of your Jurassic thinking, before it is too late.

      • bryant85

        Because you are not a believer but a devil’s hand that’s why you think and behave that way. If hell is where you like to go then do your worst

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        Humans fickle. God does not.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

      Debating on “Divorce” is light-years apart to debating on “Abortion”.
      There is NO “Clear-Cut Righteousness” here on Divorce…, since even Moses allowed it.

      Let both Houses debate on it.., and let them “vote on it” and let the decision fall where it may, without any pressure nor coercion from any side.

      As a Happy-Note for the “Anti’s” : Pres. P’noy is NOT in FAVOR of it.

  • dorothyanne88

    Speaker Belmonte by his looks alone reveals a dual personality that shows a saintly looking man but inbred in him is a fiendish propensity. A devil in disguise so to speak, unworthy to be trusted with one’s life. May his tribe decrease for he’s a plague patiently biding his time to unleash his deviltry

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

      unfortunately for you it is your damaso-brainwashed tribe who is decreasing.  

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      IN FACT, BELMONTE IS A MEMBER OF SATANISTIC BORN AGAIN

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/4GAGU3D2OUBWCKFB3WUWTALDXU Brahman

        I thought it was the pope and the Roman Catholics are the satanic cult since the Roman Catholic that killed millions of Protestants that want to learn the truth by reading the Bible and charged them with heresy during the Inquisition. The Pope was a Nazi soldier and the Pope during WWII had allied with Nazi to exterminate the Jews. So, as a Catholic, you are the cult that the Bible was telling in the Revelation.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        ad hominem to the max…

        ang yaman na rin ng mga pastor ninyo dahil kay pakyaw…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    By all means, Vatican will oppose the divorce bill because if passed in the PHL, it will be left behind as the only remaining nation on Earth without such a law.. hehehe

    It seems to me that the RC church is sort of more acceptable to the notion that separated couples will just live-in with their new partners instead of giving them the opportunity to remarry. I think it is more “moral” for the church to just let them live-in than having a divorce law in the country.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

      Your thinking about “morality for the church” and “let them live-in” is quite bias, prejudiced, and quite sarcastic & insulting.
      A “living-in arrangement among couples” has 
      NEVER been ACCEPTABLE with the Roman Catholic Church.
      No divorce law at the Vatican.., because it is against their principles & beliefs…, and there are a minuscule rate of married couple as compared to single persons living there.

      Is it a policy of your church to spread mis-conception, lies and sarcasm to other churches..?.?.?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

        It’s my personal opinion.

        Is the RC church blind to the reality that many separated couples are now just living-in with their new partners because they cannot afford annulment, and even have illegitimate children?

  • tra6Gpeche

    Incredible! Two divorce bills on collision course pending in
    the House of Representatives. The anti-divorce bill is filed by a man, Rep
    Marcelino Teodoro and the divorce bill filed by women, Luzviminda Ilagan and
    Emerenciana de Jesus. Mr Teodoro does not want to give women the right to get
    out of marriage legally even if such marriage is not working. He wants the
    women to be forever imprisoned and under the complete control of man like him.
    Mr. Teodoro wants the present status of Filipino man who has all the rights to physically
    and mentally abuse his wife, to have many queridas and children from different
    women, to be irresponsible and still has his oppressed wife on his side. The
    Filipino man, like Mr. Teodoro, wants to have it all! Very clever but evil! No Filipino
    woman would seek for a divorce if she is happy and being treated with respect
    by her husband.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

      Absolutely correct!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

      Observe. Observe.!
      There are cases, probably more than half.., wherein…
      It is the wife that is abusing the husband..!
      Remember the term “hen-pecked husband”. I never heard of a “rooster-abused wife”.
      Another term to consider is “hi-maintenance wife”,

      • tra6Gpeche

        In the Philippines? You must be hallucinating. Even if you were correct, then the husband could seek for a divorce. He would be free from being “abused” by his “physically and mentally strong” wife.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      Para mong sinabing walang mga ANDRES… LOL…

      • tra6Gpeche

        Kung mayruon man, tiyak kung isa at kalahati lang, kabayan!  Kung mali ako, sa palagay mo ay ilan at sinu-sino?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        marami dito sa atin kabayan… lalo na iyong mga matataas pinag aralan at me sinasabi sa lipunan.. kahit sa mga mahihirap.. meron din…at marami.. syempre di naman ipapangalandakan iyan ni ANDRES…

      • tra6Gpeche

        Kung sakaling tama ka kabayan, lalong mabuting magkaroon ng diborsyo upang makalaya ang lalake sa mapang-abusong asawang babae. May karapatan ding lumigaya at magkaroon ng panibagong buhay ang lalakeng binubugbog, binabastos, nilalait at hindi iginagalang ng babaeng asawa!

  • kilabot

    yes, on 2 conditions: adultery and perversion. 

    “Because they do this, God has given them over to shameful passions. Even the women pervert the natural use of their sex by unnatural acts.” 
    “In the same way the men give up natural sexual relations with women and burn with passion for each other. Men do shameful things with each other, and as a result they bring upon themselves the punishment they deserve for their wrongdoing.” (rom 1:26-27)

    divorce or no divorce. 
    the world agenda is to make the abnormal the new normal; 
    1) dangerous drugs; 2) same-sex marriage; 3) man-beast union; 4) prostitution; 
    5) pedophilia; 6) abortion; 

    the agenda is being pushed around the world; 
    some countries have already legalized one or more of the agenda items; 
    the push is intensifying; targeting world leaders and people of influence; 
    uk, france, netherlands, spain, sweden, southafrica, argentina and canada have fallen; 
    obama, clinton and carter have fallen; the whole usa may fall soon; 
    noykapon has fallen; so do many ph politicians and academics; ph on the verge of falling; 

    everything will be redefined; 
    freedom means free condom; 
    $sodomy becomes love; bestialisex is affection; a toilet bowl becomes a sex object; 
    a junkie is chic; a prostitute is enterprising; 
    adopting the agenda is equated to progress, prosperity and advancement; 

    the idea is to make the world one big orgy; all people thinking, behaving and acting alike; 
    one world order; the reign of the great pervert; 
    there will be no more right nor wrong; there is only normal perversion; 

    time to choose which side you are on; fence-sitting not recommended. 
    do something against perversion; help rehabilitate a pervert; 

    No to perversion!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

      I think the second ‘acceptable/approved’ reason for divorce is…,
      “an attempt on the life of one of the spouses” or words to that effect.

      • Jane Tan

        Well, you won’t even go to jail if you caught your husband cheating on you and you kill him in the act.

      • Albert Einstien

        CRIMINAL penalty is destierro under RPC 247…

        Article 247 states the following: “Any legally married person who, having surprised his spouse in the act of committing sexual intercourse with another person, shall kill any of them or both of them in the act of or immediately thereafter, or shall inflict upon them any serious physical injury, shall suffer the penalty of destierro…….my friend

      • Jane Tan

        Do you even know what destierro is, my friend? I suggest you google the definition.

        In case you are too lazy, its basically just a restraining order prohibiting the accused from being within 25 km of any specified person or residence. In this case, the person you already killed.

        I studied under a judge, my friend, I know the law better than you.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        What law? Corruptible law of man?

      • Albert Einstien

        ha ha ….lol….you didn’t get my point….maybe your judge prof was disbarred for IGNORANCE of the law…. my friend…   : > )

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      What to do? it was being push by the powerful countries.. this is part of the NEW WORLD order they are pushing….

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    NO TO DIVORCE BILL

    NOT TO THIS WHIMS AND CAPRICES OF SATANISTIC AND BORN AGAIN TONGRESSMEN LED BY BELMONTE

    • tamumd

      lol..I guess we will allow you to say your “NO” again this time. We don’t wanna burst your bubble this early. We will just get back at you when this bill becomes law again. lol

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        tnx satan…

      • tamumd

        lol….you’re welcome.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        talaga pinanindigan

      • tamumd

        Why not..it’s just like you calling me Santa Claus or Jack the one in the Jack and the beanstalk..they’re imaginary and fairytale figures. lol

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        good…

      • tamumd

        Glad you agreed! lol

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      BORN AGAIN BA KAMO, anong grupo iyan? Ngayon ko lang narinig na merong born again’st dito sa atin na supportive sa pag kakaroon ng diborsyo…anyway, time change, people change…

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        meron rin iglesia ni kulafu

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        LOL…

  • calixto909

    The battle between Good and Evil is once more on the rise by the emergence of this divorce bill like the bad moon rising song of the CCR. On this particular issue again the Catholic Church shall be on the forefront to receive a lot of censure but unbeknownst to may critics, a lot of believers from various christian denominations opposed this bill since again it’s reiterated that said bill defies the words of God–what God hath put together let no man put asunder.

    The reasoning of the pros that had been already aired conjuncts to the reality that even Rome the seat of the Catholic Pope has a divorce law but faith in God is the cornerstone of this divorce bill not any kind of religion because religion according to the Bible isn’t the way to God but Faith with action does.

    If anyone wants to be saved from the fires of Hell then actualized your Faith in God through good works for Faith without action is dead. Kindly read the bible, New Testament–book of James and promptly you’ll be enlightened.

    Similar to the RH law the fight of the antis isn’t about their corresponding religion but Faith in God. The Catholic Church so happen are more daring in their stand to oppose publicly while the rest used their congregation as the venue. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

      He said to them, ‘For your hardness of heart Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for unchastity, and marries another, commits adultery; and he who marries a divorced woman, commits adultery.’” <– as if this is being followed….divorce coz of unfaithfulness…ang daming dahilan ng divorce ngayon in america! nah evolve na un divorce; kasal ka ngayon, bukas divorce na! who will stop this when divorce is already there? hell broke loose! …divorce destroys the family more!

      ….sabi dito ng Panginoon, matigas talaga ang puso nyo! …suwain! Katulad din ngayon, matigas pa rin ang puso ng mga tao, lumalabag sa kagustohan ng Panginoon.  

      Humanity is part of both a natural order and a supernatural order. Because marriage is a union made by God, it is unbreakable. The Church teaches that the man and woman, who commit the rest of their lives to each other, truly become one. This is the way God intended marriage, and it is important to remember that marriage was instituted by God, not by man. When reflecting on divorce, one must ask oneself whose rules you are playing by when you agree to marry. “Certainly there are judges who will grant divorces, but how does God look upon them?” After the divorce, the couple are not two separate individuals as they are before the marriage. They are fragments of a joint personality, like a babe who has been cut in two. That is the way God looks upon any divorce, regardless of who the person be.

      • tamumd

        “That is the way God looks upon any divorce, regardless of who the person be”. really? We didn’t know you’re privy to your god’s thoughts and decisions! Geez…another religiot who is claiming to read their god’s mind. lol

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/4GAGU3D2OUBWCKFB3WUWTALDXU Brahman

        Paano pala kung babaero tatay mo at binubogbog nanay mo halos araw araw, di na sila pwedeng paghiwalayin dahil utos ng Diyos na wag silang maghiwalay, kawawa naman nanay mo.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4GAGU3D2OUBWCKFB3WUWTALDXU Brahman

      So, ang sama pala ng Diyos kasi pinahihintulotan nya mga babaero at mananakit ng asawa at anak na  parusahan mga pamilya nila habang buhay dahil hindi sila pwedeng maghiwalay?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2LQVWUZ4VUWMCKJ2QQT4P2KZVE Dong

    Ibig bang sabihin na kapag ang lahat ng mga bansa sa mundo ay may divorce bill ay tama sila? Does it follow ba na kapag ginagawa na nang nakakarami ay TAMA at MALI ang Pilipinas dahil wala tayong divorce law? Ganun ba talaga yun?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4GAGU3D2OUBWCKFB3WUWTALDXU Brahman

      So, tama rin bang magtiis ang babae at kanilang mga anak sa mapangabusong ama at asawa at wala na silang karapatan na humiwalay dahil sa sinasabi ng relihiyon na kung ano ang pinagsama ng Diyos ay di pwedeng paghiwalayin ng tao? Pano kung pinapatay na sa bugbog o kaya naman di na sinusustentohan ng babaerong ama mga anaka at asawa di ang sama ng Diyos dahil pinahihintulotan nya mga asawa na parusahan mga babae at anak.

  • batangsulpok

    Panahon na para magkaroon ng divorce sa Pilipinas dahil sa dami ng broken marriage at para maiwasan ang adultery o pagkakaroon ng kabit, isa pa, magkaroon ng sustento ang mga anak, di yun inaabandona na lang para makisama sa ibang babae o lalake.

  • http://twitter.com/yoda9a yoda

    more divorce means more single moms;
    more divorce means more unfortunate kids;
    more divorce means more population.

    the valve has to be controlled.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/U2VPSRNUA6MZGXS7FX6W5ZRCBI Antonio

      it’s better to be divorced rather than stay in a relationship without love, trust, & respect..
      there will be more unfortunate kids when they have a dysfunctional family…
      and yes there will be more population if we do not implement the RH Bill

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

      HOW’s THAT, Again..?
      “more divorce means more population”.Could you please explain this statement of yours..?
      Countries with hi-divorce rates have a much lower “pop growth rate” than the PH.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TNASVGXZ23VCJWV7KO7WPDIKKI George

      dude, how’s life being barely educated?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4GAGU3D2OUBWCKFB3WUWTALDXU Brahman

      No divorce means more battered wives and abused children, more kabits, at wala nang karapatan na lumigaya mga babae na matatali sa impiernong buhay nila sa masamang asawa nila.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        LOL.. para mo na ring sinabi na walang mga Filipinong ANDRES BWA HA HA HA…

    • Jane Tan

      Uneducated you must be.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/G2UFL7BAIFFUU6TIW4FFAPTVV4 Ghost

    An anti-divorce law?! How idiotic of Rep Teodoro. Is it even legal?

    Thinking out of the box, the fact that we have no divorce law is i think very unnatural. People should always have an option to end any agreement/contract when they think this is becoming counter-productive.

    Since divorce is just an option, couples with really strong relationship should have nothing to worry about.

    I agree with having a divorce law.
    .

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4GAGU3D2OUBWCKFB3WUWTALDXU Brahman

      Pano ayaw nyan idivorce number one, two, three, etc. nya, or yung papa nya.

  • marionics

    he he walang naipapanalo ang mga antis a he he

  • regd

    If my in-laws continue to extend their annual Christmas stay in my house, I WILL SUPPORT THE BILL! Right now they are happily sitting ON MY PRECIOUS COUCH! I’m terrified at having no say at their movements in my own house! Divorce is the solution then I will re-marry my wife with a pre-nuptial condition on in-laws stay.

    • Don Dee

      lol!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4GAGU3D2OUBWCKFB3WUWTALDXU Brahman

      Malas mo chong, lang divorce sa in-laws, ha ha ha.

    • batangsulpok

      Sorry, if you marry a Filipina and you’re abroad, you marry the whole family, meaning you have to support them also, I pity you.

      • Jane Tan

        Not only when you’re abroad lol

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6SB6D6BTXI6V3ALKXZTUCQESIQ Steven

        Thats garbage.  It’s up to you on what and when you support.

      • regd

        Tol, sa pinas argumento ko at nandito ako. May asawa ka na ba? Subukan mo munang patirahin biyenan mo sa inyo ng matagalan? Tingnan natin kung di ka makakalbo!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      Ok lang iyan, basta huwag lang kayong pakikialaman ng mga in-laws mo … LOL…

    • taga_ilog

      hahaha regd, can’t blame you for that as some in-laws are actually outlaws hehehe.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

    The Anti’s and the Pro’s, re Divorce, have their advantageous points and their drawbacks.
    Arguments on this subject will never end, just like Religion.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJFXCRSCXRWPLL42QQKSINC3AQ Mamerto

    A person’s marriage that ends up in divorce.., and eventually re-marries..,
    statistics show that this second marriage is more likely to end also in divorce.

    • isellnuts

       If you quote an statistic, you have to copy/paste it otherwise you let readers staring in a blank wall.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TNASVGXZ23VCJWV7KO7WPDIKKI George

      what you mean is, if you Mamerto, a certified a@#h@@# of a husband and father, you still want your wife to stick with you?

    • Jane Tan

      What do you care if they are setting themselves up for another divorce? It’s their life. If you don’t want it, don’t do it.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        I can sense by your reasoning that you’re may be a product of a broken family… am I right?

      • taga_ilog

        that is one of the most judgemental sentences I’ve ever read. you a product of a catholic school?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        nope.. i didn’t go to a catholic school…”you’re maybe”

      • taga_ilog

        fortunately, i was a self-supporting student during my high school and college, I don’t have the resources to go to one of those over priced and over rated catholic schools, but by the way you think you must be from one of those catholic schools.

      • Jane Tan

        No. I am a product of the school of “mind your own business, its not your life”.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        does it hurts you badly? Truths hurts… LOL…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VUT4YW36QJREEGOBH5IYKNQMKI Kokak

      “statistics show that this second marriage is more likely to end also in divorce..”

      Good for them if there is divorce, otherwise they are stuck to suffering with each other the second time around.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/74DX67S5U6H557SPUXS5XZ6QJI Alisto Juan

    It’s time for a divorce. Let the couple decide their own destiny and not of any religion. . 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4GAGU3D2OUBWCKFB3WUWTALDXU Brahman

    pano kung ikaw iputan ng mapapangasawa mo, magtitiis ka habangbuhay dahil baka maging demonyo ka pag hiniwalayan mo sya?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4GAGU3D2OUBWCKFB3WUWTALDXU Brahman

    Pero acceptable ang mga gawaing pedopilia at kabaklaan ng mga pari at obispo ng tiwaling relihiyong Katokliko

    • Don Dee

      Hindi acceptable. As far as they are concerned, it does not happen. These people have their heads buried so deep in the sand.

  • wawa2172

    An Anti-Divorce law is an act of stupidity  because we already practicing it since time immemorial. Congressman Teodoro naman please do not waste your “precious” time to such a useless bill. Debate on Divorce Bill is more proper, the pros and cons will have to debated on the floor of congress with the participation of all sectors including the church. Tayo na lang yata sa buong mundo ang natitirang walang Divorce Law. Even Italy has a divorce law and its the where the center of Catholicism is. Kung di man ito magawang batas sa Pinas at least pinag debatihan nation ito nang may katuturan.  Teodoro is saying that legal separation is already existing but it has a lot of limitation congressman, the annulment proceedings is very expensive. I am for retention of marriage however it depends on the condition of the relationship of the couple. If the relationship and living together is already unbearable because of differences and other factors then there is no more reason for the couple to be together in one roof. Children will be affected but the pain of daily quarrel and fights would rather be psychologically traumatic for them. Divorce will not ease the pain for the children but the space and peaceful existence that they will have if they opt to be with the mother or father is more bearable. I learn all this from the experiences of my wife whose parents separated when she was still a child and opted to stay with her loving and supporting grandmother on his father side. Divorce Bill? Anyone!!! Si Belmonte huwag nang isalang biyudo na yan at di na kailangan nang asawa..yaya pwedi pa…he he he.

    • Don Dee

      Kung baga sa laro ng mga bata, gusto ni congressman naka perpetual “taympers” sya! lol.

  • jin2012

    Before introducing this bill on divorce, concentrate on the children – the real victims of selfish parents.  

    • Don Dee

      A good divorce law (there are many versions of it — depends which country or state), should actually focus primarily on protecting the interest of the children! Laging primary concern yan. Kung abusive father (nanakit) ang dahilan, pwedeng walang visitation rights o under supervised visits lang. Secondary na lang yung division of conjugal properties. DIVORCE is for the protection of women and children. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        Do you know the psychological effects on kids having a separated or divorced parents???? 

      • Ronilo Yap

        Gaano ka sahol ang psychological effect kung nakikita niya ang ina na binubogbog? 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        Ba’t di isumbong sa at ireklamo????An damin nating batas di ba???

      • Don Dee

        E paano kung sole source of income yung abusive husband? Many women hesitate to the point of accepting dehumanizing abuse because the husband is the sole source of income. Ipapakulong mo yun? Kung i-divorce mo, you get child/spousal support, pwede pang protective order.

      • Don Dee

        I know it’s bad. But better than having an abusive parent that your other parent can not kick out because there are no divorce laws that would compel the abusive parent to provide child support.  

        Look, divorce is painful. Kung simple break up nga lang ng magsyota e masakit na, mag asawa pa? So don’t ever think that married people would go for this last option for the flimsiest of reasons.

      • aquaman337

        Whether we like it or not, there will always be psychological effects on the part of the children. Most children who become naughty, according to research, are actually coming from broken families. And this bill, opens the door to destroy marriage and let the children live in a broken environment.

        In the case of abusive fathers or mothers, supervision is required in accordance with the law. Kawawa naman tayo, we always protect the women, paano naman ang bata? Can this bill absolutely reduce abuse? I suppose NOT.

        Now, what am I thinking? It may be quite off topic, but here’s the thing: why not instead prepare a psychological exam aside from the interview to really determine that a soon-to-be couple are really prepared to commit in marriage?

      • Don Dee

        Well here is some dose of reality for you. Whether or not there is a divorce law, married people sometimes SEPARATE. Having NO DIVORCE LAW does not prevent divorce as a matter of fact. Gusto nyo try nyo i-legislate na bawal ang bagyo dahil maraming ill effects yun.

      • aquaman337

        And that is why we have legal separation and annulment. Right?

      • Don Dee

        And this is what I do not understand, why are you ok with annulment and not with divorce. It is ILLOGICAL. I think Colmenares is onto something. Make annulment less of a financial burden, not call it divorce, but address all legal issues of a dissolved marriage then I am all for it.

      • aquaman337

        Annulment: there are grounds that marriage did not really happen (impediments)…
        Divorce: marriage happened, and you’re going to end it…

      • Don Dee

        SEMANTICS. Let’s call it a DUCK for all I care. But clearly there is a need to define the legal obligations of a separated couple. And not make the process so exorbitant that only rich people can avail of it. 

      • aquaman337

        Then perhaps, we could agree with one of the proposals in lowering down the prices, which in turn will be affordable for the poorer ones, in processing annulment.

      • Don Dee

        Yes, I have done so in another comment. I think it is the Colmenares proposal. Still waiting though how that takes shape. Dapa ma address ang issues of legally annulling a marriage, Protect the children, the wife, hey even the rights of the husband! :)

      • aquaman337

        Then why not go with the proposal that the amounts of the process for legal separation or annulment be lowered down so that everyone can manage to afford?

      • aquaman337

        Then why marry in the first place if you think you cannot commit yourself? Remember the words, “…in sickness and in health, for better or for worse, ’til death do us part…”

        If someone’s not ready to make this promise, then why marry in the first place?

      • taga_ilog

        aquaman site the study giving the conclusion that most naughty children comes from dysfunctional families. I for one will give proof that is not always the case. this bias comes from the influence of religion ostracizing “broken families”. 

      • aquaman337

        Just a clarification po. Dysfunctional is different from broken families. A family may be broken, yet functional. Well, I stand corrected—I should have mentioned dysfunctional instead of broken. Thanks for that!

        Next thing. I have never heard of any religion in the world who have ostracized broken families. Every religion, I suppose would want couples who are happy, would want families who are growing in the love of their spirituality. The Roman Catholic Church for example. The Church does not ostracize broken families, and instead help couples to achieve happiness—Canon lawyers approve mostly 8 out 10 annulment cases (according to a friend of mine who is a canon lawyer).

      • taga_ilog

        where have you been? the castholic church does not ostracize broken families? My parents were separated so by that term, my family maybe classified as a broken family but for 32 years now, I never had the experience of us functioning as a family, I’m not mad or anything I’m just wondering how can you say that a broken family can be functional? Are you that naive?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VUT4YW36QJREEGOBH5IYKNQMKI Kokak

    No divorce means more LONELY single moms;
    No divorce means an army of unfortunate kids AND parents, as we are HAVING NOW;
    No divorce means more population suffering from UNHEALTHY marriages.
     
    The valve has to be released.
     
    Peace, bro!
    .

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      “No divorce means an army of unfortunate kids AND parents, as we are HAVING NOW; WTF- you mean kids with broken family are fortunate????
      “No divorce means more population suffering from UNHEALTHY marriages.WTF- you mean population who are products of broken family don’t suffer at all?????

      • MsPoint

        I think he means that kids in dysfunctional families are more unfortunate than those whose parents are able to get divorced. “Broken families” is such a misnomer. What’s not broken about a dysfunctional family? =/

        Why would it be broken to be in a family of loving people regardless of number or the presence of a mom or a dad, or both for that matter?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        If its a misnomer, how do you define “broken family” then?

      • MsPoint

        Is family due to the composition or what it stands for? For me, family is about love, trust, and nurture. Then with that definition, a broken family is one that does not fulfil those characteristics. 

        How about you? Would a family whose parents have no love for each other, whose children are caught in this desperate situation be considered a whole family? 

      • Crysis_III

        You twisted the facts bro..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

    What’s good with Divorce? If the propose divorce bill has no provisions something like giving “ALMS” to the “ex-wife” by the husband, then it is good but if it has? Well, I don’t think the lawmakers will pass the said bill.

    Or what if there is a provision in which the law requires the husband to support the kids (if they have) even if he’s not capable to do so? Or let say the wife comes from a “rich” family?

    BTW, anyone knows where can we read or download the propose bill?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VUT4YW36QJREEGOBH5IYKNQMKI Kokak

    In marriage, as in any other situation, a fallback plan is a good thing to have.
    A divorce law is and will always be a good contingeny plan. Why deny us this option?
    Couples with good marriage shouldnt be threatened. Makita tuloy kung sino ang talagang matibay.

  • Clart

    Wag ka mag pakasal sa simbahan or sa civil court kung ayaw mo pasakop sa tinakda nito. Magpapakasal ka then later on magdedeborsyo, at maggigil sa nagkasal sa inyo dahil ayaw pumayag na paghiwalayin kayo. Fool. Don’t get married in the first place.  If not sure of your partner, don’t get married. Marriage is only for strong people who can brace themselves against all odds in their marriage.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VUT4YW36QJREEGOBH5IYKNQMKI Kokak

      I agree that we should choose the right partner so we dont have the need to divorce. But we cannot guarantee that we really do ended up with the right partner. Im sure ALL who decided to marry thought at first that they are with the right partner to begin with.

      Para din yang bibili ka ng gadget: while i dont have any intention of returning it, i still would rather buy from store who comply with return and exchange policy. Mahirap na eh, baka may damage yung nabili mo.
      .

      • boldyak

        marriage is not a trial and error….marriage is a commitment…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        LOL… sana kung puwede iyan sa pag papakasal…

  • Albert Einstien

    those men who do not want divorce are SELFISH….they can have as many as ten MISTRESSES but they want to IMPRISON for life their lonely,abused, battered & faithful wives….pitiful….like MANY of our POLITICIANS they PATRONIZE the KABIT SYSTEM….divorce is the KEY &  empowering women to remove & UNLOCK the shackles of SLAVERY & PRISON…..HINDI nyo na kelangan lumayo TINGNAN nyo mga POLITIKO sa lugar nyo..yung mga KABIT nasa condo at mamahaling subdivisyon panay byahe sa abroad at me magagarang KOTSE ( galing lahat sa PORK BARREL ) …yun TUNAY na asawa nasa LUMANG BAHAY…aping-api..nagco-commute lang…..lol :  >  )

    • Don Dee

      Agreed. Divorce make better husbands. Would you give your wife reason to divorce you if she is perpetually (or until she remarries) entitled to half your salary even if you are no longer eating or living at your house? Of course, in usual divorce laws, the half the salary entitlement is not in effect kung yung babae ang may sala (i.e. siya ang nangaliwa). The church might find this interesting, but a DIVORCE law is actually good for marriage.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        There is good and bad in the eyes of men…

      • boldyak

        and will make more irresponsible husbands…make more marriages without commitment but just to satisfy their LxUxSxT of money, and sex…i can have many marriages with wealthy women and just divorce them, make many women satisfy their LxUxSxT with men who just want money…easy life isn’t it…NO MORE COMMITMENT…more of marriages just for temporary convenience and pure LxUxSxT…

      • Don Dee

        Well that is a danger, I’m referring to your point of using marriage and divorce for financial gain. This is happening in countries where there is divorce. But don’t you see, that danger is what makes marriages even more “sacred”. Because you just don’t marry that sexy thing who will take your money. When you marry someone, you have to make it doubly sure that it is not for your money. Masakit sa bulsa para sa mayayaman ang divorce. Kalahati ng conjugal properties belong to your spouse. It is that kind of a commitment.

      • boldyak

        with the armament  i have, it is easy for me….believe me…hahaha

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/TI55XLCNTWAACFSQMEP3AOSHPA Mita

        But there’s also such a thing as a prenuptial agreement that will ensure that serial divorcees like the hypothetical you get nothing after a divorce. So good luck finding a rich woman who won’t let you sign one.

      • boldyak

        kaqya kung bolahin na hindi na kailangan ang prenuptial agreement…hahaha…makatikim ba naman ng bombilya eh…whahahaha

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/TI55XLCNTWAACFSQMEP3AOSHPA Mita

        akala mo lang yun.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        LOL.. me narinig akong kuwento, di lang bombilya, gabraso pa nong babae, iniwanan… di kinaya LOL…

      • Jane Tan

        ? Wut? If the husband is irresponsible and it lead to a divorce, the wife would practically destroy him in the settlement? Its like you think divorce is a way-out for unfaithful men. BS. Our law already allows husbands to be unfaithful, provided they know how.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Normally the standard should be income 10%/Child 20% for the wife, 
        for a “normal” family with two children’s.
        In case the divorced wife has a live-in partner, her 20% are taken away.

      • Don Dee

        Okay, thanks for that clarification. Of course, that is just a guideline, a model if you will, of what we may or may not copy. It is not yet the final form of the law being proposed. I was just tossing out hypotheticals.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZS723M7OQL5GJ43IEJMJUDDIY hanep

    The  Catholic Church in the  Philippines  is like the proverbial  ostrich  whose
    head is  buried in the sand.

    It should  do a survey of  failed marriages.    

    • boldyak

      and why these marriages failed…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

    Kapag akoy nagpakasal, sisiguraduhin kong ang mapapangasawa ko ay walang bisyo… at sisiguraduhin kong kaya ko siyang suportahan without “ALMS” from either side of our family, at syempre dapat hindi siya papa’s or mama’s kid…. LOL…

    at kailangan ang mga pangangailan niya ay kaya kong ibigay.. ng sa gayon ay walang ako kakatakutang diborsyo…so ok lang kung me DIBORSYO….

    • Ronilo Yap

      neknek mo.. di mo masiguro ang bukas..

      • boldyak

        kung ako mag-asawa piliin ko yong may pera, at magandang hanapbuhay kahit hindi ko mahal, tapos divorce ko, then hanap ulit ako ng kaparehas nun, at mahothotan…awwww..life is beautiful….hahaha…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        of course not…

    • Don Dee

      Good luck. But take it from married people, you don’t really know someone until you have been married for 5 years or more. Magpakasal kayo, usually merong ipon. Meron trabaho. These are things that can disappear in a blink of an eye. People get sick. People lose jobs. Etc. etc. Kung umabot na kayo sa walang-wala, dun mo sabihin yang mga panata mo, dun sabihin na kilala mo asawa mo. Walang nakakasiguro kung ano kinabukasan mo.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        Thank you…

    • tra6Gpeche

      Kabayan, ibig ko lang ipaalam sa iyo na walang nakakasiguro sa takbo ng buhay sa mga darating na panahon. Walang nakakakita ng bukas o hinaharap. Maraming pagbabago ang hindi natin inaasahan o kagustuhan. Malalaman mo lang kung tama ang iyong pasya sa pag-aasawa kapag maputi na ang buhok at kulu-kulubot na ang iyong mga balat na tulad ko. Walang may gustong maging magkamali sa pag-aasawa. At tama ka, walang bisa ang diborsyo kung ang mag-asawa ay parehong maligaya, tahimik at nagmamahalan hanggang sa katapusan. Subalit, gaya ng sinabi ko, walang nakakakita ng darating na bukas!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VUT4YW36QJREEGOBH5IYKNQMKI Kokak

    Why not ammend the Constitution to prohibit any legal contract or agreement that cannot be terminated legally by consensus of the parties involved? This makes more sense than the one rep teodoro is proposing.

    Because it is so weird that there is one kind of contract or agreement (i.e. marriage) that cannot be ended by consensus of the parties involved.

    .

    • boldyak

      have you heard of legal separation?…..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VUT4YW36QJREEGOBH5IYKNQMKI Kokak

        Yup. And it is very much different. Have you heard that legal separation is only physical separation as ordered by the court, not termination of the contract?
        .

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VUT4YW36QJREEGOBH5IYKNQMKI Kokak

    The catholic church should not meddle on this issue, pro man ito or against. The priests themselves have never experienced what it is like to be married in the first place; what it is like to suffer in marriage; nor what it is like to have a very fruitful or happy one.

    .

    • AlexanderAmproz

      For the moment they prefer to abandon their illegal’s kids,
      than to take a scandal risque with abortion or living the Church comfort,
      a disgusting cowardice and irresponsible attitude.

  • johnlordphilip

    DIVORSE is a BASIC HUMAN RIGHT! If the church is against it, then they should teach their flock not to avail of it but follow the CHURCH’S TEACHINGS of NO DIVORSE, NO FAMILY PLANNING, etc. But for CHRIST SAKE, let others have their FREEDOM to CHOICE how to live their lives!

    • boldyak

      Basic human right????…haha

    • aquaman337

      Even before the time of the Church—even before Christ and the Jews, or any religion in the world, marriage had been marriage. If you hear of tribes according to our history classes way back in high school, divorce was not allowed.

      It is not a right.  People nowadays think that it is. Why? Because they’re too tired of helping themselves. They’re too tired to fix their problems. They’re too tired to work out. Why? Because that’s how media affected us—instant solutions.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Agree with you,

        Philippines is not backward enough, Cave Age where right,
        may I suggest you to close down every Hospitals and Dentists offices,

        anyway they are against God will…

      • boldyak

        you have a distorted mind…and going to a mental hospital is not against god, I assure you…

      • taga_ilog

        then you are badly misinformed, please study our culture more, it is allowed, even women are allowed to divorce their husbands,

  • Don Dee

    Tanong ko lang sa mga against sa divorce law, kung wala bang divorce law wala nang maghihiwalay na mag asawa? Most of the arguments I’ve read so far seem to believe that because there is no law on divorce, married people will be forced to stay together as married couple.

  • Don Dee

    Kung walang divorce law, walang maghihiwalay na mag asawa. This is the most laughable “logic” I have read in these comments section.

    I mean, unless you believe this, there is no reason for you to be against the crafting of a law that merely recognizes the legal limbo of married couples who have separated. Yun lang naman ang divorce. Ano ang visitation rights sa children (if any). Paano ang hatian ng conjugal property. Kailangan ba ng child or spousal support? Why are you people against resolving these legal issues?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NP6XTTJPU4RB6H5QVKHTRZPB7U Celestina

      Wala ngang divorce law eh ang dami2x ng naghihiwalay. Paano pa kaya kung meron na? This will only make it easy for people to escape marriage problems instead of resolving it…

      • Jane Tan

        You make it sound like we’ll make it easy to get a divorce. I’m up for allowing people to get a divorce, but I’m not saying I’m agreeable to making it easy for them to do so.

      • Don Dee

        Breaking up with your wife is hard enough. I don’t see why the state needs to make it harder. 

      • Don Dee

        Are you married? Well let me tell you this, that piece of paper you call a marriage contract is the least of your concern if and when you seriously consider separating with your spouse for one reason or another. It does not even factor in into the equation. You think kids (if there is any), finances, the logistics of how to move forward. Whether or not there is a law that defines your situation as a separated couple, a couple that has determined that they will separate will separate. So why the need for a divorce law? So that each spouse are made aware of their legal obligation to one another. That is all what divorce is. A husband may be compelled to provide child support (exact numbers), hindi upon his discretion na lang, for example. He in turn may be granted joint custody or visitation rights. The law will clearly define what is expected of each spouse. Hindi away ng away ad infinitum. Kesyo mas malaki ang apartment ng new girlfriend or whatever.

      • boypalabobo

        A piece of paper someone signed is the least of a person’s concern?  Remind me/us to file a law$uit when someone breaks any signed contract.

      • Don Dee

        Ah yes, when the family driver impregnates your wife while you are away working in the desserts of Saudi Arabia, the first thing that comes to mind is really “Let me check that marriage contract, clearly this is a violation!”

        You are laughable.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VUT4YW36QJREEGOBH5IYKNQMKI Kokak

    To those who are anti-divorce, you will still have all the rights and privileges NOT to use it.
    But dont deny it to those who may find it to be their only way out from their lamentable marriage situations.

    .

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NP6XTTJPU4RB6H5QVKHTRZPB7U Celestina

      Problema ang tinatapos, hindi relasyon sa asawa. 

      • Don Dee

        Really? You would stay married to a drug addicted turns out to be bisexual husband who is incorrigible (tried counseling for ten years), and yet he would get credit cards, max that out for gallivanting and drinking with his boyfriends, and you have to pay for it, since the debt of your spouse is you debt. Pawned your house (para makapang lalaki). Abusive to your children, beats them up when he is drunk, which he is everyday?

        And to top it all off, he contracted HIV and Hepatitis C and gave it to you. And is not even sorry for it.

        Really?

        I know the Catholic Church is fond of saints and martyrs, but you don’t need to be one dear. You have rights! Cut his balls off if he comes close to this scenario. No judge will convict you.

  • boldyak

    awww..sarap ng buhay…bakit pa ako magpapakahirap..hanap na lang ako mayaman na matanda at idvorce ko lang …ayus na…whahahahaha..life is beautiful..(just do away with moral values)…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5IAGC6BTV2RLD2VXSCMVIY635E Big

    Yan talaga ang Pinoy, gaya gaya. Kaya nga nabansagan tayo na the great imitator dahil mahilig tayong manggaya sa ibang bansa. RH Bill, Divorce Bill, abortion bill, same sex marriage bill, sige lahat gayahin natin para More fun in the Philippines. Pero yung mga kailangan na technology bakit di natin magaya? Lahat ng energy, communications, infrastructure at medical fields natin nakaasa lahat sa ibang bansa. Sana yan ang gayahin natin para mabilis ang pag unlad ng Pinas.

    • Clart

      ang gobyerno kasi natin mahilig sa dada..kita mo puro debate ng kung ano ano. dyan kasi may pera eh. tama ka mahilig manggaya ang pinoy lalo na sa pagkakaperahan. kita mo ang military technology natin, nga-nga, inaapakan lang tayo ng ibang bansa.

    • Iamtommy

      We’re the only country in world who doesnt have divorce. Shouldnt that be saying something? We are all human societies our needs are not different from their needs.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NP6XTTJPU4RB6H5QVKHTRZPB7U Celestina

        Yes, we’re the only nation without divorce.  And there are many incidences of broken families and failed marriages in this country. Want to add more by implementing such law? 

      • Iamtommy

        Married Couples will be separated with or without divorce if there is irreconciliable difference as what is happening now. So why make it difficult for separated married couples to be legally separated? Annulment is too expensive and that is actually tantamount to discrimination because only the rich can afford.

        On the flipside, divorce will on the contrary strengthen marriages because with it in the horizon married couples will not take their marriages for granted. Not to make it sort of a punishment but as a natural consequence of wrong yet willful decisions of both party in the marriage.

        If your problem is broken families, that can only be truly resolved by maturity of people. We should all push for marriage counselling, better philosophy for students and teach better human formation.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Question of freedom and democratic concepts, obviously, with some of your backwardness education, you are not ripe for that…

  • boldyak

    after the RH Bill, here comes divorce, the sequence never fail…then after divorce, abortion, then euthanasia, then same sex marriages…these are the “The Signs Of Time”…

    • Don Dee

      I am against abortion, but other than that, I say yes to all your “sign of the times” propositions! :D And wrong sequence ka. It is RH bill, divorce, same sex marriage, huli ang euthanasia. Oo nga pala, idagdag mo somewhere ang legalization of marijuana. Immaterial kung ano pwesto ni MJ.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Euthanasia didn’t fit with the Greed and Abuses culture, its already a cultural habit, free of charges, or only few dollars for police and Judge. To allowed Euthanasia in RP, first self discipline have to be taught, it will take at least a hundred years or a genuine miracle.

        Abortion questions can’t be answered with a black and white concept, but has to be absolutely legal during the first 6 weeks, with the pregnant request, free of any pressure. Women’s own their own body, not the bas//rd Clergy !

        Marijuana is by far more innocent than Alcohol and Tobacco !

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        With marijuana, it makes you “kill” with alcohol & tobacco, it makes you sick & slowly kills you….

      • Don Dee

        Naah. Clearly you do not know what marijuana is. It is a “chill” drug. Alcohol is more of the “war freak” drug (for some people).  As one comedian put it, the way to end the violence in the middle east is to bomb them with marijuana smoke bombs. That way no one would care enough to kill anyone.

        Just think about it, you are making illegal what natural occurs in the wild! It is God’s creation unadulterated by human hands.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Talagan talaga !

      • Ricky Bobby

        I don’t smoke marijuana, but from what I’ve read, marijuana is not as bad as cigarettes. There have been zero deaths caused by marijuana while millions die every year from cigarettes.

        To get back on topic, I am pro-choice. However, I do believe that abortion should not be done after 3 months unless there are abnormalities in the baby. In Singapore, they recommend abortion when they detect abnormalities (missing limbs, Hydrocephalus, etc) up until the 5th month.

    • Yxon

      the pattern seems getting familiar….lots of work to be done to overcome this trend…but  everyone’s small contribution would make the work easier

  • Twister12

    So many righteous people in here as if their morality is much more superior than anybody else. How can they speak what is good for everybody if they themselves have not experienced it? Put yourselves first in the positions of those battered/abused housewives or husbands left with their wives & tell us what is your feeling about divorce law. The problem with you people is your living a comfortable lives but dare to speak to those people who are suffering & teach them how to live their own. What a bunch of hypocrites. How can you tell that there is no pain in giving birth if you are still a virgin? Just saying.

    • johnlordphilip

      Well said!!!

    • boldyak

      morality is dictated by your conscience…be true to yourself and just follow your conscience because your conscience know what is moral and what is not…simple, and you don’t have to ask somebody what is moral…you know it and you also know that people neglect their conscience because it is hard for them to follow instead they follow what satisfies their “LxUxSxT”….

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        very well said….

    • alyado

      That’s the most stupid thing I’ve heard in ages. Don’t tell, me you’re using drama as grounds to push for a law that suits your character. Kaya hindi na umasenso ang pinas. I’ve seen more couples (including their children) suffer due to divorce.

      • Twister12

        Right. And have you seen housewives who are bugbog sarado & husbands living in shame & ridicule because their wives left them for another man?Tell me if you are in their shoes what would you do? Honestly. Forget about the drama that your saying but how to address that kind of reality.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        What is the use of law against women? Jail the abuser, can’t the wife complain to the police????

      • Don Dee

        So now you are married to a person in jail. And he was your only means of financial support. Di ka pa ba nakabasa sa tabloid na sariling ina hinayaang reypin ang kanyang anak ng kanyang asawa asawahan dahil siya lang ang may kayod? I know it will not happen to you. But it happens to (so many) someone else.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NP6XTTJPU4RB6H5QVKHTRZPB7U Celestina

      Sometimes, all it takes is common sense and witnessing the experiences of others for us to learn what morality is.. If divorce is good just like how it is viewed by most people, then maybe USA, Europe, and the rest of the other developed countries who have accepted this law have the best families in the world… :). I just wonder why when some people are stating their perceptions of what is right or wrong, they are often seen as “hypocrites” by others. You should not brand names against anyone just because they have beliefs that differ in yours. 

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Quality of life and personal development is better by far in the countries you are mentioning. 
        Open your home curtains and have a look outside. 
        Only Pilipino’s and simple minded believed every-things are Religion and money, its help only. Bhutan country is among the world poorest, reputed the happiest !

        Every Philippines Provinces are richer by far, no comparisons possible !

      • Twister12

        Sharing different opinions is different from shoving it in your throat. Again all I’m saying is put yourself in their shoes first before saying about morality or about how morally sound you are than these unfortunate people. You know it’s just like saying you’re against death penalty if it’s not your child raped or killed brutally.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        Yes to death penalty (as a deterrent to increasing criminality), no to Divorce!!!! 

      • Twister12

        Really? But Jesus said also that “thou shall not kill”. You’re condoning murder & not divorce? You are contradicting yourself here. Ano ba talaga ate?

      • boldyak

        then the solution is not divorce but solve the cause of broken marriages…dig deeper…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      Is divorce really the answer if wives are battered or husband left for another girl or worse a battered husband stick to her philandering wife? Or Jesus is the answer????

      • Don Dee

        I actually appreciate your strong conviction. I really do. Unfortunately, we are a secular society. And you do not get to impose the “Jesus is the answer” on the rest of us. Unless of course you are willing to kill all non-Christians and their children or they, in turn, will try to kill you and your children, believe me, it will come to that. Try visiting Israel somewhere near the Gaza strip for a year and you will see what I mean.

      • Twister12

        Then why not try 1st to be a battered wife then ask again that question. Jesus is not the answer to everything. In fact he’s mostly the cause of the greatest genocides happened in this planet earth of ours. 

  • boldyak

    pag nakakita ka ng may kotse at may bahay na gusto pakasal sa iyo, pakasalan mo agad..wag na intindihin kung mahal mo o hindi, totql may divorce naman eh…hahahaha…life will be beautiful..wahahaha…di na kailangan magpakahirap pa…wahahaha.

    • Twister12

      Sir you’re speaking as if you have the morality of a God. If David commited adultery & murder, how can you put judgement for these ordinary people whom you think are brainless, irresponsible & immoral because they have put themselves in that position with failed marriages?

      • boldyak

        we should have the morality and that’s it….kung magaya mo ang God sa kanyang moralidad di mas maganda, di ba?…i will never put myself in their position dahil dapat kung magpakasal ka, commited ka sa taong pakasalan mo…kaya maraming failed marriages dahil karamihan ngayon sinasabi na kailangan praktikal “kuno”..anong nangyayari…pagsisi ang napupuntahan…maraming nagpapakasal dahil gusto guminhawa at akala nila kung pakasal sila sa taong akala nila aahon sila sa kahirapan pagsisi ang hinahantungan…ilan ngayon ang nagpapakasal dahil sa “praktikal”…ang pagsisi sa huli at ngayon gusto nyo divorce….hahaha..easy way out sa sitwasyon na resulta ng kawalan ng moralidad….truth hurts…pero yan ang totoo…ayaw magdusa sa kawalan ng moralidad…susss…i hate what i say but that is the truth…

      • Jane Tan

        Its easy to say that we should have the morality. Onga, we should. But, not all of us do. Did you see the news on the killings in Cavite? Was that a display of your so-called morality at work? Its pointless to expect people to do things based on morality alone.

      • boldyak

        ang importante sa akin sa comment mo, is that, you agree that we should have morality…kung ang iba wala nyan, hindi ibig sabihin balewalain mo na rin ang moralidad mo, shall we follow what almost everybody do?…dahil ba uso sunod na lang tayo?…count me out, hindi ko isusuko ang prinsipyo ko para lang masabi na sumusunod ako sa uso…lol

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        well said.. praktikal na mga babae.. malamang isa si Jane sa mga ganon… praktikal sa buhay…

      • Twister12

        Right. As if you have more values than the rest of us. I bet before you graduated college you already lost your virginity. So much for morality Lol

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        RELIGIOUS PANATIC KA UTOUTO NI DAMASO!! MORALITY HINDI PANAHON NG DEBATE D2 SA BIBLIA TANGA MO DINADAMAY MO PA DIYOS D2 KA WALANGYA MO!! TUTA KA NI DAMASO!! BAKA PATI SI BUDA DIYOS NG MGA INSIK IDAMAY MO D2 TANGA MO!!

      • Twister12

        Lol you’re more stupid than i thought. Basahin mo kasi buod ng comment ko bago ka mag mukhang super tanga sa mga pinag sasabi mo.You’re barking the wrong tree here.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NP6XTTJPU4RB6H5QVKHTRZPB7U Celestina

        The sole reason for failed marriages is the failure to involve GOD in the couple’s relationship. I don’t think that marriages will end up broken if they have the divine guidance to protect them. The problem with couples is that they manage and settle everything on their own…without prayers, and without faith…..when in fact, mahirap umasa sa pag-iisip at desisyon ng tao, because we are imperfect and our imperfections make us commit mistakes. We ourselves, as humans, are weak on our own, unless we will lean on GOD as our foundation… 

      • Twister12

        If you have to put God in this then you’re saying that David & Solomon had not the divine guidance? They are literally speaking with God & yet they commited heinous crimes/sins. Faith doesn’t solve everything, just look around you. Even priests commist adultery & we are not much more holier than them.

      • boldyak

        at dahil ba maraming nagkakasala, pede na rin nating gawin ang mga kasalanan nila?…

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Adultery is and have to stay a couple personal problem, the Churches and Government have nothing to do with individuals privacy ! To put it on a murder comparison level is Un-qualifiable.
        Brainless, irresponsible & immoral are the leaders and administration raping every single Peso, producing fake text books, stealing the education and social services budgets on purpose to drown the masses in a survival posture to control them, so insane. 
        Just imagine, the Churches are also contributors in this abjection, if not leaders as it was under the horrendous Spanish time under absolute Clergy rules !

    • acidicboy

       di naman siguro lahat ng tao kasing bobo mo….

      • boldyak

        HAHA….GAGAMITIN KO NG AUTAK KO PARA GAGAMITIN KO ANG DIVORCE BILL PARA EASY LIFE…KABOBOHAN BA YAN?….KUNG PANGIT KA MALAS MO…BWAHAHA

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NIHSGQRLMFSZVA42LTJWDW5VQ4 rosenda

      Babaw ng kaligayahan mo. HIndi mabibili ng pera ang integridad at dignidad mo bilang tao. Magsumikap ka kung gusto mong yumaman. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        di mo ba nakuha? maraming girls ang ganyan, ika nga nila eh, praktikal laang naman…

      • boldyak

        i admire you dahil alam mo na walang dignidad ang mga taong gumagawa ng sinasabi ko…to have dignity one should have high moral values…karamihan sa atin binabale wala ang moralidad para sa kaligayahan ng laman….moral values are for our soul…mabuhay ka

      • Twister12

        Right. As if you have more values than the rest of us. I bet before you graduated college you already lost your virginity. So much for morality Lol

      • boldyak

        i am sad to hear one like you na sawa na sa moralidad…ang society na mababa ang moralidad is doomed…laws are and should be made according to moral values…and it is very easy to know what is moral and what is not…it’s a built-in knowledge..nasa konsensya mo na yan….wag mo lang suwayin ang konsyensya mo para lang sa tawag ng laman (LxUxSxT)…and if you have bet, you have lost…

    • motorcyclemama

      Di ibig sabihin na pag legal na ang divorce pwede mo gawin lahat ng nasa isip mo. Di lang naman nagbabasa ng law books ang mga korte, nag iimbistiga rin sila. Kaya nga nandyan ang NBI.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5TENDBNOVQRJEKFPV76D2N4XUM Socorro

    Why the rush over divorce bill? The FOI is more needed than this divorce, is it a connivance again of theses groups with the president and speaker to derail the FOI? Obvious naman di ba? Ang kakapal ng mukha, nabenta na ang palusot nyo, better change it. Give us a good reason to believe that divorce is more urgent than FOI.

    • AlexanderAmproz

      Both of them can or have to be done at once for a better future, on same time the Churches have to pay taxes, also at once ! 
      This are very simple questions solved long time ago in the developed countries.
      To tray to re-invent permanently the wheel will keep the Philippines backward with sinister consequences. Miss management is killing millions with unlimited sufferances, the Nature is on the way of total destruction by pure greed and abuses done by very few, worsening situations are at bay. 
      Many urgent small things have to be done at once with tough applied laws !

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE BRAIN WASH PILIPINOS TO BE IDIOT AND STUPID!! MORALITY KA PANG NALALAMAN DINAMAY MO PA ANG DIYOS KAWALANGYA NINYO DAMASO!!! BAKA PATI SI BUDA DIYOS NG MGA INSIK IDAMAY MO D2 DAMASO!!! KAYA NAPAG IIWANAN NA PILIPINAS NATITIRA NALANG TAYO SA BUONG MUNDO WALA DIVORCE NO BODYS IS FERFECT MASKI SI DAMASO MATAKAW SA MONTERO!! BUWAYA!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NP6XTTJPU4RB6H5QVKHTRZPB7U Celestina

      Don’t brand all priests as “DAMASO.” You have no right, and no one has the right to point fingers on anyone except for GOD… 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        DAMASO is your brother nasa noli metanggere yan itinuturo na yan sa school di mo alam na isinulat ng pambansang bayani si dr.jose rizal ano ba school mo baka catholic private school bawal dun ang noli metanggere terrorista nga pla si bishops!!

  • xrisp

    Hindi ba ang kasal ay isang irreversible commitment? Papaano ba ang sumpaan ng dalawang ikinakasal sa harap ng kanilang pari o pastor? Pag naging batas na naman ang divorce satin, wala na ang pagiging sagrado ng kasal. Lagi na lang pagpapaubaya sa comfort ng tao at wala ng sakripisyo sa magasawa kung sakaling may pinagdadaaanan silang problema. Sa kanta na lang maririnig ang “…till death do us part….” at dapat baguhin na rin ang mga sumpaan ng mga ikinakasal.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/AIYSIJJOL4JNRLHXVTGUH3NYHM The Overlord

      Ah talaga? Kahit nagpapatayan na silang dalawa, pipilitin mo pa rin silang magsama sa iisang bubong? Kahit na sumama na si mister sa isang prosti tsaka iniwan ang anak at nagkaanak na rin sa babaeng yun, sige pa rin? Kahit nagsisigawan na silang dalawa kulang na lang itak at plato na props sa kanilang away sa harap ng kanilang anak, sige pa rin?

      • xrisp

        Iginagalang ko ang pananaw mo brod. Kaya lang para bagang napabayaan ng mag asawa ang sitwasyon na sinasabi mo. Di ba dapat sa simula palang kung nagkakaroon kayo ng problema, dapat pinaguusapan na agad para wag ng lumala.  Sa paglalahad mo ng sitwasyon, nagpabaya ang mag-asawa hanggang kinakain na sila ng problema.  Saka kung hindi natin isasapuso ang mga sumpa na binitawan natin ng tayo ay ikinasal, talagang ganyang magiging kadali ang magbigay daan sa diborsyo.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZNY7QZZDDBH4EBGB5ZS4IOUATE mave

        dmo rin masabi brod, paano mapag usapan ng dalawang magasawa kung ang kapartner laging lasing sa pag uwi tapos sinasaktan pa ang asawa, lagi nakikita ng mga anak sa araw2x ganyan ang buhay nila, kung lahat ng tao kagaya mo siguro walang problema, dmo naman kayang controlin ugali ng iba may kanya kanya tayong pananaw sa buhay.

      • xrisp

        Nakakalungkot nga kung ganyan ang nararanasan ng isang babae sa kanyang lasinggero na asawa. May magagawa pa ang asawang babae, ipagdasal nyang maigi ang kanyang asawa na kaawaan sila ng Diyos para ma save ang kanilang samahan. Wala namang nasasayang na oras sa pagdarasal.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/AIYSIJJOL4JNRLHXVTGUH3NYHM The Overlord

        Pero hindi lahat nadadaan sa dasal dasal lamang, dre. Wag masyadong out of touch sa nangyayari. I admire your idealism pero tingnan mo naman kung ano talaga ang nangyayari sa lipunan. Wag i deny kung ano ang talagang nangyayari. I’ve read Gabriela’s version of the divorce bill at wala doon ang no-fault divorce (yung pag feel lang ng mag asawa na maghiwalay sila eh pwede na), madaming strict requisites dun. Basahing mabuti at wag masyado maging fanatiko sa relihiyon, ok? :)

      • xrisp

        Tama ka rin brod pero siguro puede pa rin tayong maging iba sa karamihan kahit na ganyan nga ang nangyayari sa lipunan. Magtiwala tayo sa grasya ng Diyos at ito ang magpapabago sa takbo ng karamihang buhay.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/AIYSIJJOL4JNRLHXVTGUH3NYHM The Overlord

        Hmmm, nasa Diyos po ang awa at nasa tao ang gawa. Gaya ng sa RH bill, kahit ilang beses po tayo manalanging sa isang araw pero wala tayong ginagawang konkreto para masolusyonan ang problema ng mga maralitang di makakain at makapag aral dahil sa dami ng anak at kakarampot lang ang pera, walang mangyayari. Couple your prayers with real action. Italy, Spain, and other Catholic countries have divorce. Heck, only PH doesn’t have divorce. Does it mean that this country is the “last bastion of what a family is? Hahaha! Very laughable and absurd. Rejecting divorce and other civil rights for ALL CITIZENS (believers or atheists) because of “religious grounds” is totally unacceptable for me.

      • xrisp

        Tama ka kapatid na nasa Diyos ang awa at nasa tao ang gawa. Maidagdag ko lang sana na dapat iayon din natin sa kalooban ng Diyos ang ating mga gawa upang ang mga itoy lubusang magtagumpay. Wala tayong magagawa kung tayo’y nakahiwalay kay Kristo.

      • motorcyclemama

        Hindi po lahat ng tao ay nakapag aral at pinupuntahan ng pari o ng walang bayad na counsel para mabago ang pananaw sa pag aasawa. Kahit nga sa ibang bansa na di hamak na mas advanced ang pag unawa sa kapwa di magawa ito. Ang divorce ay hindi dahilan ng pag hihiwalay. Ito ay legal na solusyon para sa legal na problema ng pagiging mag asawa.

      • mg_harrier

        khit anong gawin mong pakikipag-usap sa asawa mo kung talagang ayaw magbago lalo na ang hindpagrespeto sa mga taong naggapang sa yo sa hirap para makatapos ka ay mawawalan ka rin ng amor.remember na ang respeto ang isa ring nagpapatibay ng relasyon hindi lang pagmamahal,kung di ka niya nirerespeto at mga magulang mo wala ring patutunguhan relasyon ng isang mag-asawa

      • xrisp

        Para sakin brod, ang tunay na pagmamahal ang magbibigay daan sa paguunawa, paggalang, pagpaparaya at marami pang bagay na para bagang imposible nating gawin.

      • motorcyclemama

        Eh pano nga kung hindi tunay ang pagmamahalan? 

      • xrisp

        Ang masasabi ko na lang siguro kapatid ay ang tunay na pagmamahal kahit kanino at lalo na sa asawa natin ay makakamtan lang kapag isinama natin si Kristo sa pagmamahal na iyan. Dapat pagsumikapan nating matularan kung papaano magmahal si Kristo at sigurado mauunawaan natin kung ano ang tunay na kahulugan ng salitang pagmamahal. May mga mag-asawahan akong kakilala na nasa bingit na ng paghihiwalay pero na i save pa ang marriage nila dahil sa mga kapatid na nag-akay sa kanila upang makilala at maisama sa buhay nila bilang magasawa si Kristo. 

    • Jane Tan

      kasal ka na ba? kapag 10-20 years na kayo ng misis mo at ang nararamdaman mo para sa kanya ay parehas parin sa nung umpisa, tsaka mo yan pwede sabihin.

      • xrisp

        Oo Jane at may mga apo na ako. Para sakin Jane kahit anong problema pa ang dumaan sa buhay namin, di ito magiging dahilan ng hiwalayan. lagi ko tinatandaan na sa hirap o ginhawa, magsasama kami ng asawa ko. Saka dapat natututong magparaya ang bawat isa. Natututunan yan habang tumatagal ang pagsasama na may pagbibigayan at paggalang ang magasawa sa isat isa. At ang tunay na pagmamahal sa asawa ay kayang tiisin ang lahat ng problemang dumaraan sa kanilang buhay. At ang pinaka importante ay dapat kasama ng magasawa ang Diyos sa kanilang pang araw-araw na buhay.

      • Jane Tan

        buti ka pa. eh kung sana naman lahat ng tao ay kagaya mo. kung ako din naman, gusto ko ganyan. pero di ko masasabi ang parehas sa iba. at kahit pagbawalan mo ang divorce, hinde mo parin mapapalitan ang karamihan sa mga mag-asawa na nagsawa na. tama ba naman yun?

      • xrisp

        Oo nga Jane. May kanya kanyang saloobin ang tao na hindi naman natin saklaw. Nakakalungkot lang talaga na may nakikita tayong nagkakahiwalay at nasisirang samahan ng pamilya. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

        Oi, share ka naman ng success story.. maliban sa mga scenariong nag pakamartir si wife kahit na si husband eh philanderer…

      • xrisp

        Sa totoo kapatid, sa nabanggit mo na lang na sitwasyon, marami na akong nalaman at narinig na testimonya ng mga kababaihan na naging martir kahit na naging ganoon ang kanilang asawa. At lahat ang sinabi ay tunay na pagmamahal sa kanilang asawa at pagdarasal at tiwala sa Diyos lang ang nakapag pabago sa kanilang asawa. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/keith.corwin.142 Keith Corwin

        I agree with you at some parts but you have to understand that not everyone is as lucky as your marriage. Paano kung sinasaktan ng lalake ang asawa? ginugulpi ni re rape? Or a pathological cheater of a wife? Let’s not be myopic for a second and consider the extremes of being in an abusive marriage first before fighting the idea of divorce.

        Anti-divorce supporters will say, “eh pinakasalan mo, kung ganyan pala dapat hindi nalang” – This is insane. People in love do crazy things and besides the problems are post-marriage, not before.

      • xrisp

        Sa ganang akin kapatid, sa magasawa dapat ay ingatan at alagaan ang samahan sa simula pa lamang ng hindi magkaroon ng puwang sa kanilang buhay ang mga pangyayaring nabanggit mo. Sa isang banda naman, kung allowed na ang divorce, papaano kung sa ikalawang beses ay failure na naman ang samahan ng magasawa? Papaano na kaya?

      • litobetita

        Ganun? May expiration pala ang love? Yan ang madalas amngyari sa mga tao na padalos-dalos sa pag-aasawa. Di muna nag-iisip na mabuti. Kung pinag-aralan nyo muna ng mabuti pag-aasawa e di hindi tayo nag-iisip ng divorce ngayon. At saka ang tao dapat matutong maging responsible sa kanyang action, kahit di maganda ang naging resulta, dapat pangatawanan lalo na kung ang desisyon ay may maapektuhang ibang buhay…ng asawa at mga anak.

  • boldyak

    ang daming dapat gawin na pinababayaan ng congress…wtf..inuuna ang mga batas na lalong magpalala ng sitwasyon…ang dahilan, walang alam na solution sa kahirapan ang mga ito…gawa kayo ng mga batas para mapaunlad ang kabuhayan ng mamayan…gawa kayo ng mga new cities, ang mga lugar na pede gawan ng population centers…lanya..ang lawak ng pinas kahit anong isla pedeng abutin ng tao…kaso nasa isip nyo palagi kung paano kumita…lanya kayo…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NIHSGQRLMFSZVA42LTJWDW5VQ4 rosenda

    Mas unahin nyo ang mga batas para sa ikauunlad ng Pilipinas at mabawasan ang mga kriminal na pasakit sa lipunan!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYAZBOJYIUCRLWTYJBORBVTTOI boyfarmer

      foreign investments ang kelangan para umunlad ang Pilipinas, at para mayroong mag invest, we need to have industrial peace, snuff out corruption,  and fast track processing of business permits, minsan natatagalan ang processing kasi may nanghihingi pa ng lagay, na  ikinaaasar ng mga potential investors. . .

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NIHSGQRLMFSZVA42LTJWDW5VQ4 rosenda

    Kilabutan ka sa sinasabi mo iho. Buhay ka pa sinusunog na ang kaluluwa mo sa impyerno. Maniwala ka o hindi may God.  Kung walang God eh di sana wala ka sa mundong ito. Huwag mo idamay ang Dyos sa   hinanakit mo sa buhay.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      TANGA KA PLA PAANO MO NALAMAN SINUSUNOG NA ANG KALULUWA KO TANGA HINUSGAHAN MO NA AKO BOBO WAG MO AKO LINLANGIN SI SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO KAYA DI UMAHON PILIPINAS DAHIL SA PAKIKILALAM NG PARASITE NA SIMBAHAN NA ITO ANO TAWAG MO KAY MAYOR LITO ATIENZA NA I BAN ANG PILLS SA CENTER EH DI DEMONYO SUGO NI DAMASO!! SINABI NI CRISTO SA BIBLIA PANGALAGAAN MO PINARARAMI MO!! TUTA KA NI DAMASO!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYAZBOJYIUCRLWTYJBORBVTTOI boyfarmer

         Hatred is one of the seven deadly sin. . . .

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        liar DAMASO is seven deadly sin!!

      • Twister12

        Palagay ko na rape ka ng pari heh he

      • catalansbarce

        Magbagong anyo ka na sa tuno ng comments mo, kaibigan.., 2013 na. In favor ko sa divorce law, my friend.., but please huwag mo naman bastosin si cardinal at ang buong hierarchy ng kaparian parang galang naman sa tinatayuan nila.

      • litobetita

        Ibang klase ka rin ano? Kakaiba ka sa lahat ng nag co comment dito. Na-i-imagine ko na tuloy kung ano ang hitsura mo!!!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        kamuka ko si bishops oscar cruz yung tinapalan ni corona ng pera sa muka mukang bakla mukang galunggong na di nag sisipilyo!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYAZBOJYIUCRLWTYJBORBVTTOI boyfarmer

         buang yan si edgardo mendoza eh, pasyente sa mental hospital

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NP6XTTJPU4RB6H5QVKHTRZPB7U Celestina

    Kung ayaw mong magpasaway o maniwala eh huwag. Magngitngit ka sa galit. Malalaman mo din naman ang totoo dahil mamamatay ka din naman.  (sino bang hindi?) Hehehehe. Kita na lang tayo sa kabila bro. Hahaha. Sana lang eh ikaw ang tama at ako ang mali, para walang sisihan sa huli. GOD BLESS you…

  • brunogiordano

    “A separate bill by Bayan Muna Rep. Neri Colmenares does not advocate divorce, but seeks to make annulment proceedings more “accessible and less costly” for the poor.”

    OK ito kung ang halaga ng “accessible and less costly” ay talagang presyo pang mahirap.

    Tawagin ang BILL LOW COST ANNULMENT BILL FOR EVERYONE.

    Mas OK ito di ba??????

    • Don Dee

      Hmmm I like the idea. Apparently, the CBCP is only afraid of the word “divorce”. If Colmenares’ bill addresses all legal issues of separation without calling it divorce then I am all for it, Everybody happy.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYAZBOJYIUCRLWTYJBORBVTTOI boyfarmer

         Yes, annulment is acceptable to everyone as it is perceived that no marriage has occurred, the ceremony was null and void from the very beginning, of no force and effect ab initio. So no God’s law is broken.

      • boypalabobo

        eh merong mga anak…so pano sila?  acceptable din ba sakanila?  

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYAZBOJYIUCRLWTYJBORBVTTOI boyfarmer

         in annulment the union is not consummated, in other words usually hindi nagkaroon ng anak, that is one requirement in annulment.

      • boypalabobo

        No, that’s not a requirement.  Annulment can be granted with or without kids.  Look at Kris Aquino.

      • boypalabobo

        Everybody happy?   That is the most naive comment so far.

        So you think when mom and dad divorces, the kids will be happy too?  And when their parents re-marry, statistics indicate the kids, when they marry, will have a 90% chance of also divorcing.  

        So you tell me, who was really happy, the selfish parents who only thought about themselves?  The politicians?  The movie stars who can afford the court costs?

      • Don Dee

        Congratulations. You have once again shown, for all the forum to read, the grade two reading comprehension level you have worked so hard to achieve. Way to read that out of context Einstein. That’s all the logic you have? Strawman fallacy? Lol. What an idiot. 

        I would insult you, but you are literally TOO DUMB to insult. I don’t want to be called a bully for picking on the retard. I hope you understand.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1814164984 Malcolm Sanchez Aniag

    Broken families and failed marriages come as a result of divorce. When a
    couple no longer finds happiness from each other, each try to cheat on
    their spouses to get the company they can’t get from their spouse.

    Annulment, the simpleton may say, not considering the incredibly expensive process that annulment demands. 

  • reader2323

    divorce or annulment have similar meaning in dictionary. nice to make it affordable to give second chance who experience HELL in their marriage.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYAZBOJYIUCRLWTYJBORBVTTOI boyfarmer

       Divorce is a legal dissolution of marriage while annulment means that no marriage has occurred, null and void from the very beginning.

    • boldyak

      not at all….annulment ay pagpapatunay na sa umpisa pa lamang walang kasal at ang kasal na yon ay walang bisa…divorce ay nagkaroon ng kasal and the process is to terminate the marriage…malaking pagkakaiba…at sigurado na ang basehan na magkaroon ng divorce ay malayo kesa dahilan ng annulment..sa divorce madali ang magdahilan..madaling gawin kaya pedeng gawin na ang marriage ay parang trial and error…sa annulment mahirapan ka kung trial and error lang ginagawa mo…

      • Crysis_III

        Its all on the papers pero sa mata ng Dios at mga tao at sa mata ng mga anak, ikinasal pa rin kayo…at nagsasama pa rin sa isang bubong…

  • mang_empoy

    Nako Edgardo bagong taon na, hindi ka pa rin nagbabago, galit na galit ka pa rin.

    Ang sarap gawing hobby ang i-flag ang mga comments mo.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      loko sabihin mo yan kay bishops kung nag bago na sila!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CBCP BISHOPS PARASITE CHURCH SILENT KILL JOY EXTREMIST TERRORIST!! 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYAZBOJYIUCRLWTYJBORBVTTOI boyfarmer

       The Bishops that you are maligning are representing the Church that has existed for two thousand years already. When was your religion organized by its founder?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        tanga wala ako relihiyon sa bahay lang ako katoliko ako bobo!! lahat ng relihiyon sa pilipinas booming bussines dilahat ng sinasabi ng obispo ay totoo at pati pastor ay totoo mas mabuti pa na sabahay ka nalang tumawag sa diyos di kapa maloloko puro pera lang ang hanap ng obispo at ministro!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BXBYZ5EB467UVJRXK4IOM5BX4Y Todd

    Matthew 19:9King James Version (KJV)
    9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

    Old testament, God allowed divorce…(dala ng katigasan ng puso at ulo ng mga tao nong panahon ni Moses..).. New testament, i think it wasn’t allowed anymore.. can’t remember the verse or what book is that comes from…
    Aha puwede na ito, Matthew 19:9King James Version (KJV) – by Todd, thanks Tod!

    • aquaman337

      Let me just clarify. During the time of Moses, divorce was not allowed, yet the people insisted so he (Moses) said YES, and NOT God. During the time of Jesus in the New Testament—divorce still is not allowed, and Jesus mentioned that Moses said yes because the people insisted, yet it was NOT ALLOWED. And so, Jesus clarified it to the people that it was the people’s will to have divorce and NOT GOD’S WILL. 

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Changes occur since that time, Jesus existing or not.

        The last one is DNA,

        Contraceptives

        Abortion

        At that times cels where unknown, 
        no idea at all of how the life development was going,
        Maria was a Virgin, and still is for the gullible.
        Our tiny Planet was the Universe center
        God was behind everything can’t be explained.

        That why the Vatican is since ever systematically opposed to any research risking to expose God “secret” of life, the Vatican recipe of power and money,
        the world History biggest scam.

        Adam & Eve, Noah, Moses, Jacob, Salomon Ltd. never existed, or if you prefer, none proof will be ever found, not a single sign or writing found till now.

      • aquaman337

        With all due respect sir, I really think that your response with regard my comment or Jezzrel’s comment does not follow. If you’re making a new argument that the first part of the old testament did not exist, then please give some citations or references proving that they did not exist. Thanks a lot!

      • boldyak

        in our belief, satan was former an angel of god, and the reason why he was condemnd was, he thought that we was more knowledgeable than God and he chalenged god…hope you won’t suffer the same….lolz

      • jin2012

        So Cyrus, Nebuchadnezzer never existed as well?

        Proof of God is in biblical prophecy.

        I will give you -one- that is easy to verify and is half fulfilled already.  Myths do not prophesy.

        Matthew 24 (Jesus speaks)
        14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.”

        TODAY it is estimated that 7.5 billion Bibles have been printed since 1816 and are in circulation in 2370 LANGUAGES. 100 million are being sold per year, not including electronic copies -despite Rome’s (the most powerful nation in the world for almost 1000 years) attempts to execute Christians for 300 years, and the Roman Catholic Church’s attempts to suppress the Bible and execute those who read it for 600 years (~1200AD – 1800AD).

        Now you tell me how someone who you say never existed managed  this??

      • litobetita

        To you it does not exist. For most of us, it did.

      • jin2012

        Let the Caesars in power be guided:

        Clearly the bible allows for divorce (Law of Moses which Christ upheld), but clearly, God doesn’t like it at all.

        Mark 10
        1Jesus then left that place and went into the region of Judea and across the Jordan. Again crowds of people came to him, and as was his custom, he taught them. 2Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?” 3“What did Moses command you?” he replied. 4They said, “Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away.” 5“It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law,” Jesus replied. 6“But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’a 7‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,b 8and the two will become one flesh.’c So they are no longer two, but one. 9Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.” 10When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this. 11He answered, “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. 12And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery.”

        ON ADULTERY, this is also very clear:

        1 Corinthians 6
        9Do you not know that the wicked WILL NOT INHERIT the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

        …..so IF you get your divorce/annulment…stay unmarried…or be reconciled to your spouse…..

        1 Corinthians 7
        10To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/BXBYZ5EB467UVJRXK4IOM5BX4Y Todd

        Matthew 19:9King James Version (KJV)
        9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WC2VPZRJETRO5KOU4VOZCJXEDY Tamarindwalk

         You interpret God’s will?  Interesting…

      • jin2012

        You can read the Bible for yourself. 
        See Mark 10:9, 1 Cor 7

        That isn’t my interpretation.

      • boypalabobo

        Learn to read, before you attempt to write.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WC2VPZRJETRO5KOU4VOZCJXEDY Tamarindwalk

         And after Jesus came the Prophet Mohammed, who also interpreted God’s will.  According to the Prophet Mohammed, God allows divorce.
        Therefore, a more current interpretation might be to say that divorce is permitted by God.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BXBYZ5EB467UVJRXK4IOM5BX4Y Todd

      Divorce is allowed. But only when 1 spouse commits adultery.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WC2VPZRJETRO5KOU4VOZCJXEDY Tamarindwalk

       But Islam is the successor to Christianity.  And Islam, also a legal religion in the country, allows divorce.

      • jin2012

        FALSE opinion.  Islam is NOT a successor to Christianity.

      • boypalabobo

        Islam is a successor to Christianity says who?  Those two are different.  Apples and Oranges.  They are not the same.  You are an extremely mixed up person who on top of all this nonsense you have been posting, wants a divorce law passed.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      PANAHON PA NI MOSES ANG MGA TAO SUMASAKAY SA CAMEL IBA NA PANAHON NGAYON ANG MGA OBISPO SUMASAKAY SA MONTERO!! AT TOYOTA GRANDIA!! NANAHIMIK SI MOISES DINADAMAY MO!!

  • Albert Einstien

    folks just watch the movie ”  WAR of the ROSES “….you will know why divorce is a NECESSITY for married life…a FAIL SAFE or FIRE EXIT just in case your marriage go berzerk for reason or no reason at all… :   >  ) 

    • Crysis_III

      sige bro, panoorin ko ito sa Amazon…

    • boypalabobo

      Better yet, watch Desperate Housewives, para WAG NA LANG KAYO MAGASAWA at makadamay ng bata.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VUT4YW36QJREEGOBH5IYKNQMKI Kokak

    A lot of people are confused by how divorce differs from annulment and legal separation.

    Divorce means termination of the marriage, hence the parties can marry again.

    Legal separation only means physical separation as may be allowed/ordered by court for some impelling reasons. The contract is not terminated, both are still married to each other, and cannot remarry without commiting bigamy.

    Annulment is, well, annulment of the contract because of legally established reasons, usually psychological incapacity, etc. The problem with annulment is that this can be a very long process and even high possibility of being dismissed esp if the spouse being charged will fight it out. Hence the usually exorbitant cost.
    .

    • boldyak

      if marriage is annulled, it means that the marriage is void, it means that as if there was no marriage…and therefor you can marry again…have a thorough research…lol..i think you are the one who is confused…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VUT4YW36QJREEGOBH5IYKNQMKI Kokak

        You are referring to nullification of marriage, my friend, not annulment.
        Nullification is declaring that a marriage is void from the start (such as when a party was a minor at the time of marriage, or was still legally married to someone else). The marriage is declared to have never existed from the start.

        Annulment is a process by which a marriage is dissolved because of various reasons (such as psychological incapacity, etc.). The marriage is considered to have existed but later dissolved.

        Of course in both cases the parties can marry again. The problem with annulment is that it is a more complex litigation process than a divorce.

        Check your law, or better get a lawyer.
        .

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WC2VPZRJETRO5KOU4VOZCJXEDY Tamarindwalk

       And the Catholic church loves when the annulment process drags on because it’s making the money – > and the Catholic church loves money.

      • boypalabobo

        Tells us really, how much the Church makes on a single annulment case. 

        Lawyers make about 50k,  the psychiatrists make about 100k.  So telll us how much the Church makes….

        or are you lying to us?

  • Commentator

    The New Testament allows divorce on the ground of sexual immorality. Here is the verse where Jesus said this.

    Matthew 19:9 New International Version (NIV)

    9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

  • mangtom

    Itong mga anti-divorce folks speak as if if one enters into a marriage, it has to be for life. Yes, the vow says “till death do us part”. But what if the marriage  goes kaput, meaning all the ingredients of dysfunctional union ang irreconcilable differences pop up in the course of the marriage? Should there be no way out for the aggrieved party? People who say no are just plain dumb and just talking. Talk to us who have been that route and we will tell you STRAIGHT what this all means. 

    What these anti-divorce folks are saying is that there should be a fool-proof money back written warranty signed by marrying couples so that the marriage sticks come hell or high water  or you will be shot between the eyes by a firing squad or fried on the electric chair if the marriage does not work. Take it from folks like us, there is no such thing. That is not real life. So please relax and calm down. Let’s get this divorce bill passed while the great president, Ninoy Aquino, is sitting in Malacanang.

    • bugoybanggers

      Isipin ninyo ang suporta! PERA! Papano? Okay ang divorce sa mga mayayamang bansa o sa mga may kaya.

      • Crysis_III

        What? Divorce is cheaper than the stupid and expensive annulment process. Now if you go divorce, you have to think twice.. because you need to pay alimony  or child support or even pay your wife before you end the first marriage. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WC2VPZRJETRO5KOU4VOZCJXEDY Tamarindwalk

         And I repeat myself: the only one making money on the “expensive annulment process” is the Catholic church.  And they’ll fight like mad to keep this ball in their court.  They’re greedy.  They’re backward.  And they’re doing us harm.

      • boypalabobo

        How does the Church make money during an annulment?  Just because you said it, doesn’t make it true.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TCQMRK4HVOSF2IGML46TAGKMXU Benjamin

    Here we go again. In Italy where the Vatican is situated, DIVORCE IS EXISTING! The pros and the cons on this bill have both good reasons to defend or contradict this bill. It is disheartening for children if parents go on divorce but it is also a transgression of sin when the husband or wife commits adultery and abandon their children. How many children are roaming in the streets because the husband left the family without divorce. Ask these movie stars right now and those in government. Ilan ang mga babae nito at mga anak sa labas?  Walang divorce pero masahol pa ito sa divorce dahil niloloko ang asawa. Why not ask Bong Revilla, Ramon Revilla Sr., Vic Sotto, Joseph Estrada, and so many well known personalities who have been deceiving their wives for so long. Walang divorce kaya nambababae na lang at napakaraming anak sa labas. Kung may divorce, these adulterers will have to suffer the consequences. The late Lou Salvador Sr. had more than 80 kids, Dolphy had more or less 20, Ramon Revilla Sr. has almost the same number of kids as Dolphy and Erap has so many women and kids. Divorce is needed in this country.

    • bugoybanggers

      Papano nga kung kumikita lang si Mister ng 12000Php? papano niya masusuportahan si Misis o ang mga anak niya? papano naman ang pang TSIKA niya? Pang mayaman nga naman talaga ang DIVORCE.. Kawawa ang mga batang PINOY. 80% pa naman eh ang kita pag isang kahig isang tuka lang.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WC2VPZRJETRO5KOU4VOZCJXEDY Tamarindwalk

       We need an end to double standards – and that’s done through creating a situation of equality for all citizens.
      Step 1 is the now enacted RH Bill.
      Step 2 will be divorce.
      Step 3 will be legalization of same sex marriage.

      • boypalabobo

        Why step 3?  It doesn’t follow.  Not everything the USA does should be copied. That’s why they are declining in all aspects of society. You want to copy that too?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WC2VPZRJETRO5KOU4VOZCJXEDY Tamarindwalk

         The operative word is “equality” for all!

      • boypalabobo

        So that means you will want equality even for the pedophiles, murderers and rapists too?

  • rofllma0

    YEhey!!! At Last!! This is what Millions of Pinoys are waiting for! DIVORCE in the Philippines! due to Stupid Annullment process + the expensive and long legal process this is the answer!!

    GO Divorce!

    lol

    • boypalabobo

      yehey… kids…  kids…. kids….look mom and dad are divorcing…yehey…  

      Yeah, I guess you forgot about the kids, and only want to satisfy the whims of selfish parents.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WC2VPZRJETRO5KOU4VOZCJXEDY Tamarindwalk

         And what is a husband to do when his wife is cheating on him and having babies with another man, put up with it because some outdated church says so???

      • boypalabobo

        Who cares about selfish parents?
        I only care about the kids – the real victims.

        Perhaps the State can take the kids away from these irresponsible people.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WC2VPZRJETRO5KOU4VOZCJXEDY Tamarindwalk

         Since you care so much about kids, what about the kids that a mother has from her number 2?
        Perhaps the Catholic church can take some of the money it has garnished off people over the years to take care of them!

      • boypalabobo

        YOU tell me what happens to the kids when YOUR divorce bill becomes legal.  YOU are the one who wants it that bad.

        If you act, be responsible enough to accept the consequences of your actions.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WC2VPZRJETRO5KOU4VOZCJXEDY Tamarindwalk

       Guess who makes all the money in the annulment process: the Catholic church!

      • boypalabobo

        Wrong again.  The lawyers make 50K.  The psychiatrists make 100K.  The courts make a small amount.  Catholic Church = 0. 

        Please stop lying to us here.

  • bugoybanggers

    Sigurado na kikita ng husto ang mga PARLOR at GYM nito. Kapag na aprobahan ang Divorce Bill, alam naman ng lahat na mas maiiganyo ngayon ang kababaihan at kalalakihan na panatilihing ma apeal pa rin. Alam ng lahat na kapag lusyang ka na, yari ka. OO nga naman, pabor nga ito sa may trabaho o may pagkakitaan. Papano yung mga walang trabaho o paekstra ekstra lang? Ang mga BATA kaya bang suportahan ng isang ordinaryong manggagawang Pilipino na sumasahod lang ng 12000PhP? Kawawa ang mga BATA..yari ang mga LOLA at LOLO.

  • regie

    EH CONG. TEODORO ANO SILBI NG LEGAL SEPARATION EH TANTAMOUNT NA PO YUN SA DIVIORCE KASI NGA HIWALAY NA SILA AT DI NA PWEDENG MAGTABI AT MAGSAMA. NAPAKA IPOKRITO PO NG LEGAL SEPARATION TAPOS DI PWEDE DIVORCE. DAPAT KUNG WLANG DIVORCE EH DI TANGGALIN NA RIN ANG LEGAL SEPARATION.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      wag ka na mag taka ganyan mag isip yang obispo impokrito!! 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SATANAS B SHOPS BRAIN WASH PILIPINOS TO BE IDIOT AND STUPID!! MAG BAGO NA KAYO DAMASO!! AT CARNIVAL TAGLE!! PARASITE KATOLIBAN CHURCH!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYAZBOJYIUCRLWTYJBORBVTTOI boyfarmer

       Mukhang hindi na matino ang takbo ng utak mo, pasyente ka ba sa mental hospital?

  • $53950194

    Every married people should enjoy legal remedy of DIVORCE when both of them OR either one of them is no longer willing to go beyond the point of marriage with the same conditions with legal separation and annulment.

    Who said we are not ready for this legal remedy?  Filipinos can adapt new norms in life, either this may be legal, social, medical or spiritual practices etc.  This of course has nothing to do with the church.  I like this law to be within reach for every Filipinos who needs it.

    • boypalabobo

      Enjoy legal remedy?  I’m sure the kids will enjoy seeing their mom and dads divorce.

      Wag na lang kayo mag-asawa, para walang kids kayong madamay sa selfishness ng mga magulang.

      • $53950194

        Tama bobong_urHonor_at_DonDee, lahat dapat may karapatan na makagamit nang ganitong batas.  It is a fact nothing is permanent in this world.  Your views with marriage might change later.  If you decide later na bakla ka pala at nandidiri ka na sa asawa mo, and of course while you put your wife in misery and in tears, because you have abandoned your family & kids for your happiness, if she decides later to avail this law, because of your being irresponsible when you decide to crossdress, she should have it.

      • boypalabobo

        I don’t really care about what the irresponsible selfish parents do.
        This bill will benefit only the selfish adults.

        What is your solution for the real victims – the kids?  Or did you completely forget about them?

      • $53950194

        SO you dont care?  Oh no bobong_urHonor_at_DonDee, it is not for selfish adults.  It is for people who needs it.  Do not complicate the issue.  Dont worry about the kids, im sure people who are responsible wont let their kids be fallen to people like you.  Im sure they will be looked after very well without you.

      • boypalabobo

        So don’t worry about the kids?  Is that what you are saying? Who will take care of them?  Lola or Lolo?
        You really are just as selfish.

        Divorce becomes the solution when people become selfish – tell me that is false.

      • $53950194

        absolutely false of course!  how can it selfishness when it is for the advantage of the agrieved party?  Doesnt matter if it is lolo or lola or tita or tito, anybody who are responsible enough to look after them.

        I am nearly sure you read the news here about kids, who are being hurt by their parents, some of these kids died in their cruelty.  I’d rather have a law to protect the family from people who are irresponsible.

        Can you see my point?  Would it be fair in the eyes of a young child would be subjected to something he/she’s not supposed to?

      • boypalabobo

        VeTee gdesz:

        I see your point of view.  But a divorce bill will not address the core problems.  It will treat a symptom, which will cause even more problems. 
         
        For instance, kids whose parents divorced and re-married will have a 90% chance of divorce when they get married. 

        What just happened? 

        The madness continued on to the next generation – and so forth.  You didn’t solve a problem, you created another generation of unhappy families.

        If the couple thought about their partner and their kids, rather than themselves, they wouldn’t be is such a bigger mess.  

        That is called being selfless – which is the opposite of being selfish.  Selfish people think about their OWN happiness, not others. I would have thought you would know that at least.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WC2VPZRJETRO5KOU4VOZCJXEDY Tamarindwalk

       Once a divorce law is enacted, a lot of double standards in the country will also end: one being the accepted practice of having “wife number 2″, “wife number 3″, and so on…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WC2VPZRJETRO5KOU4VOZCJXEDY Tamarindwalk

    I support the legalization of divorce in the country.  Almost every other country in the world allows it and still we lag behind because of some outdated practices forced upon us by a church that has lost its relevance in our society.
    It is no longer for the Catholic church to carp its dictates to us in sermons.  It’s time for that church to start talking about honesty, helping one’s neighbor, and caring rather than trying to dictate the ways of society.

    • boypalabobo

      support it if you want,  but not because “every other country in the world allows it or the Catholic Church is outdated” – that really is a fallacious reason to support divorce.

      • $53950194

        bobong_urHonor_at_DonDee i dont find it unsound.  Society & Culture changes all the time.  You are one of the reasons why our cuntry is not moving forward.  You should embrace change.  There’s nothing wrong with that law.  If you dont need it dont use it.  It is that simple.

      • boypalabobo

        So if everyone smokes pot, because it has been legalized, we should do the same?  If everyone is allowed a gun in the world, we should also do the same?  If everyone in a classroom cheats, I should also do the same?  

        The fallacy (faulty logic) is called:  It does not follow (non sequitur)

        I am one of the reasons the country is not moving forward?  LOL.  That is another fallacy.  This country moves all the time whether I am alive or dead.

        My advice to you:  Study.   Your logic and reasoning abilities, if everyone had the same type of thinking, are what would prevent this country from moving forward.

      • $53950194

        well I respect your opinion but hopefully you will find time to reflect what is the advantage of having that law AS at the same time, my views about this might change.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WC2VPZRJETRO5KOU4VOZCJXEDY Tamarindwalk

         O.K.  In addition to the above, I support it because it will help to put an end to the double-standards in our society.

      • boypalabobo

        Double standards???  That’s called “reality”.  
        “Reality” will not go away because of this bill becoming a law.  You are trying to treat the symptoms and causing other problems, you are NOT addressing the core problem with this bill.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4XVVCOAZXYTPN2X3IPFCFDSKFM Melvin

    May tanong ako. Kung ang isang lalaki ay nagasawa at nagpakasal ng dalawang beses at nagawang maipakulong ng unang asawa sa kasong bigamy, subalit nagsisisi siya sa ginawa niyang pagpapakulong sa kanyang asawa. Ang tanong ko ay, kung sakali bang makalaya ang lalaki ay pwede na niyang pakisamahan ang dalawa niyang asawang parehong pinakasalan, dahil pinagdusahan na naman niya ang kanyang pagkakasala ayon sa batas?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VUT4YW36QJREEGOBH5IYKNQMKI Kokak

    Although Im pro-divorce, sometimes tinitimbang ko rin yung punto ng ibang hindi sang-ayon sa divorce. To each his own opinion. No problem with that, let’s discuss constructively.

    But to learn that a lawmaker is pushing for a law that will ban legislation of a divorce law is for me the most stupid law that will ever be made in our country. Meron pa palang pilipinong ganito kasarado ang utak sa panahong ito. At congressman pa!

    Really, it’s more fun in the philippines.
    .

    • Albert Einstien

      more FUN-k in the philippines…politicians with no brains  but all AIR & GAS…

      funk :foul odor…

  • Crysis_III

    Annulment: Marriage is voided and marriage did not really happen…
    Divorce: Marriage happened, and you’re going to end it…
    So therefore, the clearer and truthful among the two is divorce. Why do you make a marriage void or did not happen at all when in fact it happened? and is more expensive….tsk tsk…

    • Albert Einstien

      there is difference between Declaration of Nullity of Marriage and Annulment of Marriage:
      Declaration of Nullity covers void marriages while annulment deals only with voidable marriages. A void marriage means it does not exist from the start or its inception ( court will issue declaration ) while a voidable marriage means that the marriage is valid until terminated by the court.

      ANNULMENT ( voidable marriage )  grounds :
      1. Absence of Parental Consent 2. Insanity 3. Fraud  4. Force, Intimidation, Undue Influence 5.  Impotence  6.  Sexually Transmitted Disease (STD)

      DECLARATION of NULLITY ( void ) grounds : can be found in several provisions of the Family Code. These are Articles 4, 35, 36, 37, 38, 40, 41, 44 and 53 in relation to Article 52 of the Family Code…most common is sec 36 psychological incapacity.

      meaning of “psychological incapacity” the most serious cases of personality disorders clearly demonstrative of an utter insensitivity or inability to give meaning and significance to the marriage.

      i just HOPE the only requirement for DIVORCE…is the MERE filing in court of divorce petition  by any of the  spouses with 6 month cooling off period  & make it free …otherwise such law will be useless &  classified either as annulment of marriage or declation of nullity…..

  • boybakal

    Just amend the Legal Separation Law….make it quicker and cheaper, so that ordinary people can avail of legal separation fees.

    What is happening is…all US laws are being introduced while we have our own.
    Just like this K12, RH, Sin Tax etc etc.
    It is becoming American law for flat nose filipinos.

     

  • boypalabobo

    VeTee gdesz:

    I see your point of view. But a divorce bill will not address the core problems. It will treat a symptom, which will cause even more problems.

    For instance, kids whose parents divorced and re-married will have a 90% chance of divorce when they get married.

    What just happened?

    The madness continued on to the next generation – and so forth. You didn’t solve a problem, you created another generation of unhappy families.

    If the couple thought about their partner and their kids, rather than themselves, they wouldn’t be is such a bigger mess.

    That is called being selfless – which is the opposite of being selfish. Selfish people think about their OWN happiness, not others. I would have thought you would know that at least.

    • $53950194

      bobong_urHonor_at_DonDee, if you find out that your spouse is a killer and has an intent to kill you.  Let us just say it is difficult to prove in public as he/she really good in concealing it.  You want to end you marriage  because of his intent. Question.  Are you selfish in this instance to avail divorce and end you marriage?  Dont tell me you are still concern about kids?  What if you dont have kids?

      • boypalabobo

        Let’s just say only 1% of marriages actually have killers as a spouse.  Tell me if this bill makes sense then.  You have no statistics to back that up.

        No kids, no problem.  But in the Philippines, just about every couple I have met, have kids, and I see kids in the streets all the time, so likely, the couple have kids. As a reference, in the USA, you can easily assume over 21% of married couples have kids.  The Philippines would definitely have a higher %

        So tell me how a divorce bill would assist the kids?  WALA?  Rely on the lolo and lola?  Is that your solution to the real victims here?  It is the job of the parents!

      • $53950194

        that is parenting issue, we are talking about divorce

      • boypalabobo

        divorce isn’t related to parenting?  you don’t have kids do you?

      • $53950194

        so you are focusing to the real victims here as “the children?”  how can you give justice to the agrieved spouse who wants to end their marriage for whatever reasons?

      • boypalabobo

        I stated early on.  I don’t care for the  adults and their selfish ways. 

        I care for the kids – the real victims. Which your divorce bill isn’t even considering.

        That’s why I said, the solution lies in strengthening family as soon as a couple gets married, not destroying it.

    • $53950194

      if you have the right study  and statistics to prove it i might be convinced. I have known a few of my friends who came from broken families, they vowed not to have a family their eyes had when they were young, and so far they are doing very well and I always prayed that nothing will come between their families for them to re-experience the pain

      • boypalabobo

        That 90% is from a Divorce Magazine.  The 21% (married and with kids) below is based on the USA census.  Since the Philippines has 2x the population growth rate of the USA, you can assume the number to hit 40% easily – the % of married couples with kids.

        So KIDS in a marriage is very likely (at least 40%). They would be primary stakeholders in this bill. So tell me how this bill would protect the kids?????? IT WON’T. In fact they seem to have been ignored completely by the proponents and supporters of the bill.

        Since no one who supports divorce has suggested anything constructive to protect the kids, I suggest a bill to help strengthen (resolve through seminars,counseling) the family unit (refer to the Family Code of the Philippines – EO209) rather than destroy the family unit.

      • $53950194

        Your source is a Divorce Magazine? Even American Presidentiables are lying about their statistics!  Now remember they have different culture so why apply the effcts here?  Dont put the kids on the spotlight here as we are talking about the couple’s marriage!  Focus on the subject po!

      • boypalabobo

        You are picky.  That 90% (91% apparently) I got that about 2-3 years ago. Source is above.

        But I see you haven’t even looked at any statistics or studies at all before stating “divorce is good for all”.

        MALINAW, divorce cause 2x more problems for KIDS.

        Try these stats on Children of Divorced Parents:

        2 Parents:
        HS dropout rate 13%
        Teen pregnancy 11%
        14% – women who have poor relations with their moms.

        Divorced Parents:
        HS dropout rate 31%
        Teen pregnancy 33%
        Required psychological help 14%
        29% – women who have poor relations with their moms.

        Source
        www . policyarchive . org/handle/10207/bitstreams/17944 . pdf

      • boypalabobo

        I found the source:

        “Indeed, children of divorce–and later, remarriage–are twice as likely to academically, behaviorally and socially struggle as children of first-marriage families: About 20 to 25 percent struggle, compared with 10 percent, a range of research finds. They’re also more likely to get divorced themselves, reports University of Utah sociologist Nicholas H. Wolfinger, PhD, in his book, “Understanding the Divorce Cycle” (Cambridge University Press, 2005). Adults whose parents divorced but didn’t remarry are 45 percent more likely to divorce than adults whose parents never divorced, he notes, and 91 percent more likely to divorce if their parents divorced and remarried.”

    • joshmale2004

      “For instance, kids whose parents divorced and re-married will have a 90% chance of divorce when they get married.”
      I think 90% is very high and unbelievable. Do you have a verifiable source for this figure?

      • boypalabobo

        I found the source:

        “Indeed, children of divorce–and later, remarriage–are twice as likely to academically, behaviorally and socially struggle as children of first-marriage families: About 20 to 25 percent struggle, compared with 10 percent, a range of research finds. They’re also more likely to get divorced themselves, reports University of Utah sociologist Nicholas H. Wolfinger, PhD, in his book, “Understanding the Divorce Cycle” (Cambridge University Press, 2005). Adults whose parents divorced but didn’t remarry are 45 percent more likely to divorce than adults whose parents never divorced, he notes, and 91 percent more likely to divorce if their parents divorced and remarried.”

    • Twister12

      Let’s say na nandyan na nga, naging selfish na sila at umabot na sa ganyang sitwasyon na binubugbog ang asawa, ano ang dapat gawin. Hindi nag susuporta sa mga anak at sumisipot lang kung gusto o d kaya si Mrs ay may kinakasama ng ibang lalaki. What do you think is the best solution for that? Again spare us about their being selfish etc etc kung baga sa gyera ay nangyayari na at hindi pa lang mangyayari. Pls kindly give us some of your wisdom as we are not so enlightened here like you do.

      • boypalabobo

        binubugbog ng asawa?  report sa pulis – me batas tayo dyan.
        wala akong pakialam sa mga selfish parents, mga bata na biktima ng mga yan ang kailangan tutukan.

      • Twister12

        That’s it? kulong & then what? That’s the solution?

      • boypalabobo

        binubugbog pa rin siya kahit nakakulong na?  ano ba yan?

        tutukan niya ang kanyang mga anak – yun ang gawin niya.

      • Twister12

        What a solution you have there. What about the support?   You’re eager to put the husband in the prison but you wont let them divorce where the wife can escape his abusive behavior & at the same time get a support for  the children. It seems that instead of helping your helping the wife to bury herself.

      • boypalabobo

        YOU people want divorce. YOU give me your solution.  I already told you, I don’t care about the selfish adults, YOU provide a bill that will protect the kids.

      • Twister12

        I just did. Read again the above comment.  

      • boypalabobo

        Look at the stats I posted above.

      • ARIKUTIK

        Hey Dong ! ang divorce at anti divorce bill ay showbizz ni Abnoy para Pagtakpan ang bagong pirmang RH law. Sakay ka ng sakay diyan. Ano ka isa ring Pervert na Abnoy ? weeeeee >>>>  byeeeeeee …. gutom na ako …. kain muna > Donk ! takboboooo >>>>>>>>>

  • boypalabobo

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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    satanas carnival tagle DAMASO! brain wash pilipinos to be idiot and stupid!!

    • Twister12

      Palagay ko na rape ka ng isang Damaso kaya ganyan na lang galit mo heh he

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    PCSO pa car sa obispo!!

  • Albert Einstien

    there is difference between Declaration of Nullity of Marriage and Annulment of Marriage:

    Declaration of Nullity covers void marriages while annulment deals only with voidable marriages. A void marriage means it does not exist from the start or its inception ( court will issue declaration ) while a voidable marriage means that the marriage is valid until terminated by the court.

    ANNULMENT ( voidable marriage ) grounds :
    1. Absence of Parental Consent 2. Insanity 3. Fraud 4. Force, Intimidation, Undue Influence 5. Impotence 6. Sexually Transmitted Disease (STD)

    DECLARATION of NULLITY ( void ) grounds : can be found in several provisions of the Family Code. These are Articles 4, 35, 36, 37, 38, 40, 41, 44 and 53 in relation to Article 52 of the Family Code…most common is sec 36 psychological incapacity

    .meaning of “psychological incapacity” the most serious cases of personality disorders clearly demonstrative of an utter insensitivity or inability to give meaning and significance to the marriage.

    i just HOPE the only requirement for DIVORCE…is the MERE filing in court of divorce petition by any of the spouses with 6 month cooling off period & make it free …otherwise such law will be useless & classified either as annulment of marriage or declation of nullity…..

  • batid

     this congressman should apply the law only to his own family member but not to his house helper as it doesn’t apply to all Pilipinos and in this  present situation and should not be elected anymore. this is a clear of politicking and as clear is they said a lie catholic vote.

  • $53950194

    bobong_urHonor_at_DonDee, do you really understand what you are saying “That’s why I said, the solution lies in strengthening family as soon as a couple gets married, not destroying it.”

    Tell me what is your solution when the problem is at hand and the couple (or an agrieved party) wants to end the marriage and wants to enjoy the full extent of the law to cease it?

    • boypalabobo

      You will likely not understand the solution even if I told you.  What I have already stated will suffice.

      • $53950194

        really? we might have the same answer!  but really i understand where you are coming from and i am trying to digest the effects of it, and that book is interesting and seemingly the author has written a good few of this topic.  but the facts still remain and i cannot negate and ignore couple who wants to dissolve their marriage for whatever reasons.  

      • boypalabobo

        I did personal research on this 3+ years ago for an annulment case.  
        Kids are the real victims here.

        That’s where I am coming from.

        My solution starts with this:  An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

        Instead of pouring money into destroying a family, invest in the “ounce” of prevention.  You keep the family unit strong as you would your health.  Start this right after marriage – require it by law instead of this divorce bill.

        This job, really should be the job of the Church – but they are too busy with Caesar’s work, politics, rather than doing God’s work.  So since they cannot do this, expand the EO209 Family Code of the Philippines to support the family unit. Perhaps this can be an “extension” of the RH law.

      • $53950194

        Bong believe me and I wont be a hypocrite.  This is not the job of the church and not of the government either, BUT they can help.  Problems always exists but it is up the individual how to cope and deal with it,if they want help OR if help is readily available for them.  Every family as the basic unit of the society, that’s where it all begins.

      • boypalabobo

        It is the job of the Church – that’s why I believe you wouldn’t understand me.  Believe it or not, your Bible contains all the elements on how to live properly and keep your marriage strong.  

        It is also the job of the State – they are to uphold and protect the family unit – enforce the Family Code of the Philippines EO209.

        Divorce bill = give up all that responsibility

  • boypalabobo

    Children of Divorce are 91 percent more likely to divorce if their parents divorced and remarried

    “Indeed, children of divorce–and later, remarriage–are twice as likely to academically, behaviorally and socially struggle as children of first-marriage families: About 20 to 25 percent struggle, compared with 10 percent, a range of research finds. They’re also more likely to get divorced themselves, reports University of Utah sociologist Nicholas H. Wolfinger, PhD, in his book, “Understanding the Divorce Cycle” (Cambridge University Press, 2005). Adults whose parents divorced but didn’t remarry are 45 percent more likely to divorce than adults whose parents never divorced, he notes, and 91 percent more likely to divorce if their parents divorced and remarried.”

    Source
    Understanding the Divorce Cycle” (Cambridge University Press, 2005)

    More statistics:

    Two Parents:
    HS dropout rate 13%
    Teen pregnancy 11%
    14% – women who have poor relations with their moms.

    Divorced Parents:
    HS dropout rate 31%
    Teen pregnancy 33%
    Required psychological help 14%
    29% – women who have poor relations with their moms.

    Source
    www . policyarchive . org/handle/10207/bitstreams/17944 . pdf

    • $53950194

      dont rub it in because we have different culture and different practices.  This is not America and definitely wont be the same.  Even as early 1921, as the article suggests, ito ay nasa america na pag uusap.  Eh tayo nasa rebolusyon pa that time.

      • boypalabobo

        Where else will you get divorce statistics and studies? 
        You can only get it from countries that have a LOT of experience in this madness so you can avoid the same problems.

        Kids are kids no matter where you are.

      • $53950194

        .

      • ARIKUTIK

        Meron bang bansang “REUNION” ? Pataka ka lang diyan. Saang continent yan sa buwan ! What a Donk poster. ewwww…… >>>

    • Don Dee

      Here is a statistic for you. 100% of those who divorced in the USA (data 2001 to 2011) drank di-hydrogen oxide. What is truly shocking is that this chemical substance is readily available  all over the world, even in the Philippines. So maybe we ought to ban that to prevent divorce?! 

      And of course, because there is NO DIVORCE law in the Philippines, therefore, married couples in the Philippines NEVER separate. Maybe you people are onto something. We could maybe try to legislate something to the effect that we are against tropical typhoons? That is really bad for the country. Surely I do not need to cite statistics for that. Let’s see how that works out.

      • boypalabobo

        puhlease….dihydrogen oxide – you mean water?  That’s lame. Don’t waste my time on your stupid jokes.

      • Don Dee

        Are you challenging the truthfulness of the statistic that 100% who got divorced drank water? No? See the problem with statistics?

        And then of course, you have not debunked the argument that there are  married people who SEPARATE whether is a  DIVORCE law or not. So NOT having a DIVORCE law will not prevent a de facto DIVORCE.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

        Parang mas mabuti pa ang pag-iisip ni Juan Manuel Marquez na umiinum ng ihi kaysa sa sa ‘yo na tubig ang ini-inum.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    PCSO pa car sa obispo!!

  • ARIKUTIK

    Nag Showbizz ng Divorce + Anti Divorce bill para PAGTAKPAN ang issue ng bagong pirmang RH law. Another PERVERT SHOWBIZZ scheme of an Abnoy !!! The PH governance is now Perversion of the Abnoy.

  • $53950194

    The impact of divorce on children has been stated previously as a disadvantage. However, there is an advantage to a child’s parents splitting up. A child who experiences divorce may mature quicker and develop responsibility at a younger age. If a child’s father moves out and she has younger siblings, she may have to take on a co-parental role with her mother. This exposure will give her a sense of responsibility that other areas of her life can benefit from. Also, children will benefit from divorce if there is a high level of conflict in their parents’ marriage. It is unhealthy for children to be around parents who fight and criticize each other. An advantage to divorce is the personal growth a person goes through after the event. “Divorced individuals report higher levels of autonomy and personal growth than do married individuals,” says Miami University professor of philosophy, Robin L. Graff-Reed, in her article, “Positive Effects of Stressful Life Events: Psychological Growth Following Divorce.” This is because divorced individuals have to become self-sufficient and cope with the pressures of everyday life by themselves. After divorce, individuals can develop the personal skills that can help them work towards a better quality of life for themselves and their children.

    • boypalabobo

      Statistics clearly shows there is A LOT LOT MORE DISADVANTAGE than ADVANTAGE to kids.

      Why let kids mature faster???  Let them be kids a bit longer!

      • $53950194

        those children are better off mature a bit earlier rather than witnessing night and day their parents fighting and sometimes include those children with their fight, or kids not comfortable and anxious and very stressed when they know what will occur the next time their dad will appear.

        i would rather have them in a home where they are welcomed, fed, and sent to school. I’d rather have them to strangers rather than to parents who are irresponsible and cannot provide good future for them. I’d rather have that BILL than let those children suffer! Can you bear to see children suffer from abuses as the other parents frustration turn towards their kids? I dont think so.

      • boypalabobo

        Better off in maturing faster???
        You have no idea what you are talking about. 
        You obviously have no kids of your own.  
        And with that kind of immature non-parental thinking, 
        you shouldn’t have any right now.  So you are OK with teen pregnancy numbers going up?

      • $53950194

        no no you are getting out of context sir and read clearly my previous postings .  Let’s move on and i want different topic to discuss.  thank you for your time.

      • $53950194

        While your study goes back 3+ years, i hope you come up as well with the solutions where a couple decides to file divorce, with or without children as the case may be.  It doesnt mean when the two parties decides to part ways or dissolves their marriage is not a healthy approach.  At the end of the day, each one of them wants to be happy, selfishness or not!

      • boypalabobo

        Focus on the children. 

        Find your happiness with God.

    • ARIKUTIK

      If that is the case then let us make a law > couples must divorce after a child is born. Then get married with another to divorce again after a child is born, so on and so forth. In this way all the burned child will become responsible better quality humans. Finally a solution for Super Humans is discovered ! Yeheyyyyyy ….. ang galing galing ni Scientik Ve Tigas….. aaarrrggghhhh >>>>>>>>>>

      • Crysis_III

        Yung line of reasoning is  so far off… Why not give facts or a good suggestion to have a healthy discussion. Maybe you are a product of attempted abortion, kaya ganun ang utak mo. hahaha. 

      • ARIKUTIK

        I bastardly refuse to join in healthy discussion B’cuz a reputation is worth a tree trunk. Who wants to be one,diving in swimming Fool with out water. The divorce + anti divorce bill is nothing but Smoke Screen for recently signed RH law. The showbizz administration is trying hard to deflect attention. The RH signature boy AB is now trembling in fear ! nya….hahaha….. The pro RH law pervert is now digging a scape hole through divorce bruhahah. RH law is evil to be inflicted to poor and their 10 years old child to become life hater sex maniacs. But the powerful Rich are exempted.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IKP4CDTM3MPJJ67NPYL2XEZWFM dindo ballebar

      tell your lawmakers to file a bill outlawing marriage! Y go through all the troubles? 

      • ARIKUTIK

        The best solution from the fastist brain in town. Yes ! outlaw marriage, it’s for the birds only. RH Law is born. No to marriage. Teach sex to 10 years old child, RH pills is FREE….. yeheyyyyyyyy…..

  • AlexanderAmproz

    Why is it so difficult to let peoples to do what they want ?

    Poor peoples children’s abandoned starving on the streets, no body cares.Philippines is a deeply corrupt and insecure country, killing is a way of life
    Anyway broken families existing and nothing can be done to avoid it,
    and now Divorce is a sticky problem.

    Never get married and run away from those mad and sick obsolete colonial institutions !

    Rich peoples can do what they want, this is really an unfair slavery sign.

    Philippines is more fun !

    Amazing !

  • mangtom

    bugoybanggersCollapseIsipin ninyo ang suporta! PERA! Papano? Okay ang divorce sa mga mayayamang bansa o sa mga may kaya.Sagut: good question. Sa divorce, merong sinasabing divorce settlement or agreement. In some instances, the woman pays the man instead of the other way around. Also, if the husband is penniless, and the wife agrees to the divorce kahit walang alimony, that’s it. Basta nagkasundo sila, walang problema. It is a misconception that the husband always pays. Kung walang ibabayad kasi walang trabajo, anong magagawa ng asawa? Either papayag siyang ipagpatuloy ang divorce o hindi. Kaya bottom line, depende sa agreement ng mag-asawa. Meron ding mga states na may community property laws. Doon, hati ang property ng mag-asawa, or depending on the law governing the community property issue. Meron ding pre-nup na may kasunduan ang couple bago magtie ng knot kung ano ang gagawin ng kanya kanyan ari-arian if a breakup in marriage occurs, as it often does. 

  • AlexanderAmproz

    Very strange, Philippines used to be a Paradise before Spanish time,

    today for more than half of the population, 
    it’s the world worst place where to live thank’s an awful Spanish and US colonial heritage.

    Today this failed country pretending to give way of life lessons refusing Divorce explaining the rest of the Planet is bad.
    Trying to Show to be the only one with good moral values as they are the only one refusing Divorce ? 

    Meanwhile they are the best for torture, Journalists killings, forced disappearances, killings, kidnappings, land grabbing, systematic robbery and corruptions, abandoned children’s, Clergy and Priest children’s sex abuses are common,
    Nature destructions and pollutions, cyanid used by illegal fishing can be found to the Seychelles on the middle of the Indian Ocean 10’000 Km away,
    no more fishes, no more water in a monsoon place, rivers and watersheds polluted, those are only few items of and end less list.

    The responsibility of this horrible criminal disaster in comb to few flithy rich Politician Dynasties, Trapos, and Officials dancing with the Clergy believing to be untouchable,

    protected by God or What ?

    • boypalabobo

      LOL.  Filipinos beheaded people before the Spanish came.
      You really think it was a paradise?

      • AlexanderAmproz

        they are still beheading peoples today, 
        but a Palparan is it a progress sign ?

        Where are the fish, where are the forest, what happen with so many wonderful native culture.

        Why all what is real Pinoy’s culture is permanently occulted ?

        The Spanish have “Liberated” the Pinoy’s from Liberty for enslaving.

        The Clergy “Liberated” the Pinoy’s from their lands ownership, later selling them for a song to their relatives under US request.

        This wasn’t few Hacienda but the country !

        In 1900/1910 the US “Liberated” 40% of the Pinoy’s from the life and Colonel Sherman discovered the 45 caliber for an efficient Tausug life time Liberation. 

        Believe me the Philippines History is totally evacuated and twisted for political and power reasons, have a look on Wikipedia, Philippines/American war, 
        you will love General Jacob Smith saga in Leyte “every one over ten has to be kill”

        Then you will understand why you have always been “saved” by smart horrendous rapist invaders.

        King of Spain, Pope, Clergy, US, Japan, US again, same target, to enriched themselves as much as possible on the world wildest way ever done, detrimental to the Pinoy’s life and country.

        A terrible History.

    • $53950194

      you do not know what you are saying.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        I am writing it  and not saying it as “Verba volent, scripta manent”.

        The subject is too serious for not writing it.

  • sarahmusker

    Yes, of course, the existing law of Annulment & Legal separation is used to preserve the sanctity of marriage.  It does not take into account the rights of a human being who is in serious marital problem, who needs to escape from a relationship that has gone beyond repair.  Not only is the existing law cruel, it denies a person (most often women) from having CLEAN BREAK of the past, so that that person can rebuild a new life. This law need to change to make it relevant to peoples’ lives. We need a proper divorce or Panagbulag Law..

  • Nuntiandi

    Lawmakers who advocate divorce should be barred from availing it. Most of these politicians have multiple concubinage and lead polygamist lifestyles that the bill becomes a blatant self-serving move from those powers-that-be. There are other pressing economic/human rights measures such FOI, involuntary disppearance, etc, that need more priority more than this self-serving Bill. Yet they pretend to speak for the lower masses who “could not afford to avail of legal separation”. Divorce rate has climbed to about 50% in the US. Statistics also show that the rate of drug addiction, teen-age pregnancy, school drop outs, gun shooting and other social disasters in the developed world have a near 100% correlation with divorce rate. Yet the ordinary Pinoy does not even know what divorce means in terms of changing the social fabric of his society. He only reads newspapers and watch soap on TV. And this is what the pro-divorce politicians are banking on: ignorance of the masses.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5STEU22AD7YRHQSB6RE56ZDSYA J

    Marami siguro congresspipol na gusto i-divorce ang mga asawa nila. 
    Sabagay kahit walang divorce marami naman may asawa iba yung iba diyan.Nagsasamang mga mag-asawa pero maykanya kanya bf o gf at walang pakialaman.
    Ang mga pari ng simbahan ang makakalaban nila diyan sa divorce law kahit hindi sila dapat mag-asawa… ({:o)

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  • Albert Einstien

    some people here are confused…if you are pro-divorce they already equate it as anti-marriage already…they will provide statistics about the children of a divorced family..BUT they CONVENIENTLY FAIL to SHOW what about those MULTITUDES of  CHILDREN suffering under a HELL like marriage..it is more than a WAR ZONE..it is  a HAND to HAND combat already….both spouses think that the enemy is from within and they just attack its other at any given time….that is worst torture a whole  family can get… the effect on the children is WORST….what is more worst than DAILY hell like living…

    we are pro-marriage  but with a safety net or fail safe device ..in case of failed marriages..that should be clear  folks….. ” every one deserves a second chance “..to be happy….  :  > )

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      parasite katoliban church!! PCSO pa car sa obispo!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    ANNULMENT is a big Moneymaker for the church.

    That is why they are against divorce.



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