‘My ninong shot me’

Gunman fired at anyone on sight; 8 dead, 9 hurt

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GUN CRAZY, GONE MAD Mass shooter Ronald Bae once ran for village chief in Kawit, Cavite, as shown on a tarpaulin bearing his image (at left). Bae went on a shooting rampage on Friday killing eight people and wounding nine others before being gunned down by responding lawmen. The killings prompted the usual calls for stricter gun control. Pistols are displayed (at right) during one of the regular gun shows held yearly in Mandaluyong City. EDWIN BELLOSILLO/ MARIANNE BERMUDEZ

“Baril ako Ninong (Godfather shot me).”

That was the first thing 4-year-old Ken Cedric Caimol told his grandmother after the shooting. His sister KC was also shot.

The two children were wounded but survived. Their sister Micaela, 7, did not. She was hit in the chest when Ken’s godfather, Ronald Baquiran Bae, shot them with a .45-caliber 1911 pistol Friday morning.

Bae, 41, shot and killed eight other people and wounded nine others, including Ken Cedric and KC Caimol and two other children, before he himself was killed in a gun battle with police.

It was unclear why Bae, who contested and lost an election for village chair in Barangay Tabon I in Kawit town, Cavite province, in 2010, went on a rampage.

But his rage reminded residents of Tabon I of the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut in the United States, where 20 schoolchildren and six adults lost their lives on Dec. 14.

Like the Newtown gunman, 20-year-old Adam Lanza, who committed suicide as police arrived, Bae went around shooting people coolly.

“He walked casually, without any word or any facial expression,” said witness Willy Salvador, a resident of the area.

The ordeal began just after 9 a.m. Friday. Bae knocked at a store and asked three children—the Caimol kids—who were there at the time for a certain Berto. Told that Berto was not there, Bae exploded. He whipped out his 1911 and fired at the kids.

The randomness of his targets was brutal.

From the store, Bae went down the alley in his neighborhood, shooting anyone in sight.

“It was random. He would fire at anybody who crossed his path,” said investigating officer Arnulfo Lopez of the Kawit police.

“It started at the store. From the corner he went to the store … All the kids he chanced upon, he just shot,” another investigator, Senior Police Officer 1 Roberto Genido, said.

According to residents of the area, Bae, clad in shorts and sando and carrying a 1911, walked about 200 meters from his house and back, passing by at least 70 houses.

INNOCENT BYSTANDER A little girl looks bewildered by the blood stains marking the spot where a person fell during a shooting frenzy in Barangay Tabon I, Kawit, Cavite province, on Friday morning. EDWIN BELLOSILLO

He had company

Accompanying him was his house caretaker whom police identified as John Paul Lopez and who was seen reloading the 1911 whenever it ran dry.

Bae shot a barking dog, then the dog owner, 56-year-old Alberto Fernandez, as the man stood on his porch.

From the alley, Bae walked toward the nearby market, shooting more people.

“He shot the kids, who were 6, 7 years old. Then there was a pregnant woman and a dried-fish vendor from Rosario. He vented his ire on all of them,” Genido said.

“The pregnant woman was hit in the stomach. Last I heard, she was in critical condition,” he said.

The pregnant woman was later identified as Ria de Vera. Her 4-year-old daughter Jan Monico was among the wounded.

Bae’s attacks lasted about 30 minutes. He walked back to his house and got there just as police arrived and called to him to surrender.

“He opened fire on the police. So a gun battle ensued, which resulted in the death of [Bae],” Lopez said.

“He really was shooting it out [with the police],” Genido said. “He kept firing. He no longer recognized anybody.”

In one exchange of fire with the policemen, Bae was hit and was killed.

Police reported nine people, including the four children, wounded. They were taken to hospitals, seven of them to the Philippine General Hospital in Manila.

Among those killed Friday was 20-year-old Al Orio, a taho vendor. He wounded Orio’s 16-year-old brother Antonio with a shot to the back.

The Orios are not residents of Tabon I, their mother Mila Orio said in an interview at PGH.

She said her sons, who lived in Rosario town, also in Cavite, were selling taho and went as far as Tabon 1 in Kawit on Friday. They were selling taho at the market when Bae saw and shot them.

The other victims taken to PGH were Maricel Pajal, 30; Kevin Pallada, 6; Ken Cedric Caimol, 4; KC Caimol, 2; and Ricky Dumip-ig, 17.

John Paul Lopez disappeared. Cavite Gov. Juanito Victor Remulla offered a reward of P100,000 for information that would lead to Lopez’s arrest.

John Paul in police custody

But at press time, Remulla reported that Lopez had been found and was in police custody. A radio report quoted Lopez as saying a family problem drove Bae to go on a killing spree.

Remulla said Bae had once served on a local council but was also a known drug dealer and had been taking methamphetamines since New Year’s Eve.

Bae, Remulla said, left his Kawit neighborhood a year ago after losing the barangay election, but returned on Monday due to a problem with his wife, whom he had left in Pampanga province before New Year’s Eve.

 

Drugs and alcohol

Neighbors said Bae and Lopez had been drinking all night.

Senior Supt. Dionisio Borromeo, deputy chief for administration of the Cavite provincial police, said a combination of “depression, alcohol and drugs” might have caused Bae to snap.

Borromeo said police found “drug paraphernalia” in Bae’s house. They also found an expired license for an M-16 rifle, but not a license for Bae’s 1911 pistol.

Neighbors said Bae, who reportedly owned a poultry farm in the area, was a neighborhood bully who fired his gun at the slightest provocation.

 

Firearms crackdown

The Inquirer learned he returned to his Kawit home on Jan. 2 from Pampanga province where he reportedly lives with his family.

Bae’s shooting frenzy came about as the administration of President Aquino considered a fresh crackdown on unlicensed firearms in the country following the death of 7-year-old Stephanie Nicole Ella from celebratory gunfire on New Year’s Eve.

Nicole’s death triggered outrage and condemnation of poor law enforcement that allows hundreds of thousands of unregistered firearms to be on the streets.

Kawit police chief Jaime Rollon said firearms were common in town.

“There is a lot of people with guns here. There are civilians with guns, even without official permits to carry. They can find a way,” Rollon said.

There are 1.2 million registered firearms in the Philippines as of last year, according to data from the police firearms and explosives office.

There were another roughly 600,000 unlicensed firearms in circulation across the country, according to the office’s records. With reports from DJ Yap and Nancy Carvajal in Manila and AFP

 First posted 12:22 pm | Friday, January 4th, 2013

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  • Magsasaka

    sabi ng isang opisyal ng pulis hindi daw mangyayari ito dito sa pinas, bakit nangyari ngayon?

    • sanjuan683

      Tama ka sa Pinas pero sa Kawit naman nangyari.

      • generalproblem

        ok sa republic of kawit sa bansa ni aguinaldo hehehe

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

         Mabuhay ang Republika ng Kawit!!!!

      • taga_ilog

        ui me bagong citizenship na kami? hehehe

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        dual citizenship sir. Pilipino, at Kawit Caviteno.

        Like!

      • taga_ilog

        or kawiteno hehehe, 

    • WeAry_Bat

       yun nga ang comment ko about yung sinabi ng pulis officer at sa column ni CDQ.

      fatal thinking na hindi magkaroon ng copycat scenario dito sa pilipinas.

      baril, tao at problema equals shooting spree.

      • Magsasaka

        palagay ko bangag yon namaril

      • WeAry_Bat

         medyo tama ka dyan…substance abuse, drugs ba o alchohol

      • Magsasaka

        sabi sa radyo halos 24 hrs na walang tulog at lumalaklak ng alak

      • Magsasaka

        di lang ako sigurado pero may opisyal ng PNP na ininterview at sabi nya malayo daw mangyari dito sa pinas ang mass shooting na katulad sa connecticut dahil masayahin ang mga pinoy.
        at kung sasabihin na naman ng gunless society na dapat total gun ban ang solusyon at para maiwasan ang ganitong pangyayari pero hindi nila naiisip na kung may isang tao doon na may baril din at maaring makapanlaban malamang hindi ganyan karami ang nasugatan at namatay

      • WeAry_Bat

        hm, iba kasi ang lumabas sa gun statistics…sa lugar na mey mga baril ang mga tao, mas maraming namamatay sa baril.

        sa US, 0.5% of 162,000 (?) lang nangyari ang self-defense kaso questionable pa rin kasi patay na ang tao hindi na matanong.

        kng mey baril sa bahay, 300% probability magkabarilan sa loob kaysa kung wala.

      • Magsasaka

        ibig sabihin safe ang bahay na walang baril?
        at kapag pinasok ng masasamang loob walang kalaban laban?
        sa china may taong sira din ang ulo hindi baril ang ginamit sa pagpatay ng mga bata, patalim ang ginamit pero marami din syang napatay.
        example ng lugar sa pinas na may baril ang mga tao halos lahat ng tao ay sa danao na pinagmumulan ng mga paltik na baril ang statistics doon ay halos zero crime rate.
        yong sa cavite ang daming nabaril, walang nakapanlaban dahil yaong siraulong baes lang ang may baril at hindi sya napigilan ng mga pulis dahil tapos na sya at nakauwi na sya ng bahay doon pa lang sya napatay dahil tinangkang arestuhin

      • tarikan

        Tama ka dyan WeAry. Pag may baril sa bahay (lalo na marami) ang nagkakabarilan ay si Mr. at ang kumpare nyang inabutan sa kwarto. Kung hindi man, si Mr. binaril ni Mrs. kasi inabutan din sila ni Inday. O kaya si junior nabaril ni Inday kasi ayaw ni Inday. O kaya BF ni Neneng nabaril ni junior sa kearto ng kapatid. Etc, etc. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FFSZ7TIZZG47FYQFAZFIGYXKPM Pers

    doon ka magamok sa basilan at jolo

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    Dapat may background check ang mga taong nag-aaply ng gun,kawawa palagi ang mga civilian ang nadadamay…

    • beatmanny

      unang unang bagsak si noynoy at llamas dyan 

  • $23257130

    grave na talaga ang kriminalidad sa panahon ni abnoytard ha. habang tulog ng tulog sa pansitan. pppppppwwweeeehhhh. kadiri. eeeeeeeewwwwwwwww

    • nakawan

      tanga. paano mo naman na-connect yung administrasyon sa nangyari sa Cavite?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/AMG5EDI2JBQRL4Z5H2L7ED4OQA yahoo-AMG5EDI2JBQRL4Z5H2L7ED4OQA

       mr. tiglao..ikaw ba iyan??

  • bugoybanggers

    ika nga, sa US ito ang dindahilan ng mga pro-gun society.. Ang makakapigil sa isang taong may baril ay ang taong may baril.. siguro nga naman. Kung nangyari ito sa lugar na halos lahat ng mga residente ay may baril.. naku po! siguro ni isang putok hindi makapag pakawala ito. Abusado nga naman kasi alam niya wala siyang karibal.

  • Mamang Pulis

    yan ang epekto ng shabu—

    napraning si X-cherman.

    baranggay level pa lang yan

    sa  bato ugis, sulu 

    magkakalaban na kapatid sa baranggay chairman pa lang—

    mortar ginagamit.

  • Mamang Pulis

    “sumi etivac”

    tatak ng tattoo ng isang ‘laya’ na tauhan ko.

    may edad na–nagsusumikap sa labas ng rehas.

    ayun–all around ko sa bahay, karpintero, tubero, electrician

    kahit iwanan ko yun mga baril ko sa mesa hindi nagagalaw yun
    kapag nasa loob ng bahay.

    [kasi alam mya na meron pa akong isa sa baywang]

    ano ang kaso? nakapatay ng tao—-

    nakapatay dahil sa tsismis

    nakapatay dahil nabalitaan na may sumisilat sa asawa nya 

    ano kaya dahilan bakit namaril ang mokong sa balita?

    epekto ng shabu? tsismis?bugnot? malaking panibugho sa buhay?

    parang si pulis patola mendoza—

    pulis na pa retire na at sumabit at ang kaso nabinbin sa ombudsman.

    ayun–rumaket….

    sa Luneta grandstand pa ah!!

  • Mamang Pulis

    parang nasa hyper mode ang mga pahayagan.

    sumusunod sa uso kay angkol sam?

    utos na ng boy bawang?

    ‘gun control

    ‘gusto ata magtigas tigasan kasi alam nilang inutil sila pagdating sa MILF/MNLF

    mas nakakahiya pa–sa NPA

    na ang mga ito ay hindi nila makumbinse na ibaba ang armas.

    kaya ang pag didiskitahan ay yun mamayan na legal na meron.

  • Sugbuanon86

    Paging PNP:  Paki-revoke po ang lisensya at confiscate ang mga baril ni PNOY.

    Balita po, hindi na ito umiinom ng kanyang gamot para sa schizophrenia na SEROQUEL.  

    Napapansin ninyo na iba na ang kinikilos at pinag sasabi ng mamang ito.

    Baka bigla na lang itong mag amok.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/AMG5EDI2JBQRL4Z5H2L7ED4OQA yahoo-AMG5EDI2JBQRL4Z5H2L7ED4OQA

       mikey arroyo??

      • Komen To

        Si governor yan, sugbuanon, e di taga Cebu

      • beatmanny

        carandang ikaw ba yan?

    • bahaykubo1015

      Tama!!
      Gun control pala, dapat unahin si Abnoy to give a good example.

  • denicio lozada

    P*tang ina niyong mga Pulis!
    Umamin kayo na bobo kayo at tamad mag imbestiga! Kung hinuli niyo yung suspect noon pa nung unang nagpaputok siya ng baril, wala na sanang iba pang namatay. Ganyan naman kayo eh. Tatamad tamad, naghihintay ng may i-aabot para umaksyon. Kapatid ko inakyat bahay sa scout area sa morato/roces, yung imbestigador nagtanong lang kung anong nawala tapos wala na. Wala nang ibang tinanong. Yung footprints ng mga suspect nasa tabi lang ng kapatid ko. Yung cellphone niya ninakw habang tulog sila. Eh kung sinaksak kapatid ko? Dun palang kikilos ang pulis? T*ang ina, walang follow up sa bikitima, wala man lang tawag. Wala! Ayun pinasok uli bahay ng kapatid ko kahit pina-grill na nila lahat ng bintana na pwedeng pasukin. Wala pa ding aksyon yung mga p*tang inang pulis sa kamuning! 

    • denicio lozada

      kahit mag death penalty pa basta walang kilos ang pulis mataas pa din ang krimen. mas mautak na ang mga akyat bahay at mga kriminal kaysa sa PNP. 

      • Magsasaka

         eh wala naman utak ang mga pulis kaya walang pagkukumparahan hehehe

    • For Pete’s Sake

      The police and the press will only blame  “drug-crazed youths” without further investigation if your sibling was killed in the process of a robbery. I know how you feel denis a lozada. We were also victims of akyat bahay gangs and the police just told us to get a CCTV camera as if we could afford it. There was no follow up operation. Witnesses saw 2 men with guns running from our house. Robbers do not use knives anymore. Anyone can buy a gun. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

    Grabe! Simula pa lang ng 2013 eh nagkalat na ang mga private citizen na may firearms.That´s the reason why i´m urging our government to create a law calling total ban and surrender of firearms.Sa tingin ko ata eh walang gustong kumilos para gumawa ng batas tungkol dito.

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    Kailangan e retraining lahat ng mga pulis,palakihan na lang kayo ng tiyan o sa sabungan lang kayo nakikita….puro na lang patayan kauumpisa pa lang ng taon,,,

    • beatmanny

      welcome tuwid na daan! pweeeeeeeeeeh

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4R3GZTGML26TV2VGS6RVHP2THM Fred

    Magpa presscon ka ng iyong directive Gen Purisima!
    Ano ang masasabi mo?

  • buttones

    Clearly we have a problem of gun control that has to be addressed…but nothing is being done- we don’t even have a constitutional right own firearms, ‘we’ murder almost three times the people the US does by 100,000 population and nothing ever gets done about it- it just get’s worse.

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    Corona has owned at least 31 guns, pag malakas ka at may connection ka para ka lang bumibili ng candy.

    • lumpiangshanghai

      Member din po ba si Mr Corona ng KKK at mahilig mag target shooting?

    • tarikan

      Does he own that many guns, that Boy Boga? Buti hindi nabaril si Maám Tina. 

    • beatmanny

      hindi naman nya siguro kaya nyang paputukin yun ng sabay sabay. talo yan kay llamas my idol dvd dvd DVD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • TEAM PNOY

      Salamat sa pagbalita tungkol ka corona, eh sila llamas, pnoy, at yong taga LTO, ilan naman ang mga baril nila?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HUE7BZXUJ7I5AFIBEPSIBONAHA Alfred A

    Hala mga Pinoy gaya-gaya sa US.. at first RH Bill, then divorce bill then shooting bill hahahaha.. iba na ang US of A… Hal sige mangGaya pa….

    • anonymous6237

      Ibang usapan and RH bill saka divorce bill. Saka di yun yung issue. Maraming namatay. May nakita nanaman kasing pwedeng ilitaw na ikukumpara, puputak na kagad.

    • beatmanny

      oh masaya ka na dahil sa mga sakunang nangyayari sa ating bansa para isisi mo sa rh bill at sa darating na divorce bill?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4R3GZTGML26TV2VGS6RVHP2THM Fred

    Gen Purisima, pakinggan mo ang sinasabi ni Gob Remulla.
    Yung mga pulis daw ay di nakinig sa kanya! Hayan, masaker.

  • WeAry_Bat

    Chief Supt. Raul Petrasanta, head of the PNP Firearms and Explosives Office and to one of my favorite columnist, Conrado de Quiros:

    I told you so.

    • TEAM PNOY

      Tangalin na yan lokong pulis na yan. Di mangyayari sa pinas yong masaker ha! Yan, kulang pa ba ang walo?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JEMNLLYAP5EA7SM3A6QUOGV62Q Chris

    Pinoy talaga.. gaya gaya (dahil meron shooting sa US, shooting din d2?).. buti sna yung gagayahin natin ang mga mabuting asal. What a culture!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000851762814 Pepe Mayagimat

      culture culture ka pang nalalaman, dka ba pilipino? kung nahihiya kang naging pilipino ka edi pakamatay ka na lang. tama ba ako tanga?

      oks ingat.

      lol

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JEMNLLYAP5EA7SM3A6QUOGV62Q Chris

        lol.. u didn’t get my message? kaw ata tanga! lol.. pa ingat ingat kp.

    • itsumo kokomo

      lalong lalala yan pag maisabatas na ang divorce bill. gusto kasi nating gayahin ang US.

      • beatmanny

        hoy t*nga ka ba. lahat ng bansa meron divorce law no pilipinas na lang ang wala. pa ts*pa ka na sa pari 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/H4INAGLB7BOCJ4EVP3ZWJQRQ74 itsumo

        May annulment naman, ang divorce ay para lang yan sa mga poor. mag isip2x at magsumikap ka muna bago magpakasal upang kung na bukya ka ng iyong partner may pang annulment kang ipanggastos.
        POOR PEOPLE so tamad yan ang mga atat na atat sa divorce bill. Pwede naman na di natin gayahin ang lahat, ganyan na ba talaga tayong kababa?

      • beatmanny

        ay naku bakit may mga taong ganito katan*a

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JEMNLLYAP5EA7SM3A6QUOGV62Q Chris

        Agree.. pinoy puro gaya gaya.. sna gayahan ang mabuti.. ndi ang masama.. at sana na gets ni Pepe Mayagimat. nagcocomment.. mukhang ndi naman naintindihan. lol!

  • kilabot

    as long as there are perverts, the threat of destruction and loss of life exist. 

    No to perversion.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

    The only solution is to use younger generation!(Kabataan) Text lang nila ang mga suspected person,neighbor who have illegal firearms na tinatago.Government must make a move like “Firearms for Food (monthly supply of 1 sack of rice for a period of one year)” “Firearms for Money(worth 50,000 php)” na ipapasok sa bank account.As long na tama ang name at CP# ng nagsumbong at will remain confidential! “Firearms for Ipad4 tablet” or one year Educational grant! Ewan ko lang kung walang kakagat sa ganitong pabuya! My point is for everybody to register their firearms.Ngayon,kung naunahan ka na isumbong ng “Anonymous Txtérs” at napatunayan na hindi nakarehistro ang baril mo eh pasensiyahan na lang! Multa ka na,Kulong pa! Kailangan lang eh exact name and address to conduct a surprise raid! No search warrant pa coz it is a direct order from President or Commander in Chief of AFP.

    • tarikan

      Human rights violation na naman yan sabi ng mga communista at aktibista. Kailangan may search warrant talaga para yang mga justices a CA (mahilig magbigay TRO or dismiss ang caso dahilan sa technicality) wala ng dahilan. Ok yang suggestion mo pre. Sana yang mga authorities may pag-iisip na ganyan.

  • $14170612

    amando doronila natupad na pangarap mo guguho na ang pilipinas 

    • beatmanny

      di na kailangan mangarap sa dami ng taong katulad mong b*b0 patupatuloy na ang pagguho ng pilipinas

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W6H5DZKUQTUASP4S6CGTK7B3E4 kevin

      Hindi na hihintayin ..matagal ng gumuho….

  • 7_mgawalanghiyakayo

    sabi ni gob.Remulla notorious drug user daw wrong spelling kaya si gob imbes na pusher? notorious pala eh anu ginawa nya bakit d pinahuli noong walang wala pa nakagawa ng krimin? talaga tong mga namumuno sa atin puro purma lang sa isa karin sa napurohan gob.

    • OnesimusUnbound

      2013 Election! Time for pogi points.

  • itsumo kokomo

    Instead of killing inocent civilian, why not kill those TRAPOS and corrupt officials? Malaking pakinabang pa kayo sa ating bayan kung ganun ang mangyari. At matatakot na yung magnanakaw at abosado sa kanilang mga pwesto ngayon.

    • kismaytami

      Sana yung mga epal na politicians dito sa Cavite. Yung mga nagsabit ng mga nakakadiri nilang pagmumukha sa mga electric post sa mga kalsada dito sa Cavite.

  • BurgerBeacon

    Sana doon siya sa CBCP nag amok.

    • dknight_98

      Sana sa bahay mo…dumbass…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EA7TIY7PYXEU5UOXG2K5CY5F64 Eric

    This is what happens if people continue to turn a blind eye on crime and fail to call the attention of the authorities. Kung isinumbong nyo sana for indiscriminate firing……mga pulis sana ang kabarilan Nya.

    • Komen To

      Sinumbong nga daw 1 wk ago, di inaksyonan

    • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

      Bossing, sabi ni DILG Sec Mar Roxas tumaas daw ang crime rate dahil mas marami na ang nagerereport ng krimen. Ngayon alam mo na puro pambobola lang si Mar.

    • kismaytami

      “could have been prevented if only the police listened to the complaints from the community”
      Hindi mo pwedeng sisihin ang mga mamamayan, kung yung mga pulis naman ay batugan.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WTIRTIXLBR5X47RMVKB3T43SWA charles

    fire the cops who didn’t respond to the public’s concern…!!!!!!….this tragedy could have been prevented had they acted more quickly…

    • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

      to think Cavite was classified by DILG Sec Mar Roxas as election 2013 hotspot. pero hindi alisto ang mga PNP Cavite.

  • xmb458

    The people were complaining to to the police one week before the crime took place but these weakling policemen as usual did not respond. Calling Sec Mar Roxas. this is your chance to boost your image if you wish to be the next President by weeding out from sight all local government officials and police officers who are unfit to serve.    

    • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

      Nagtatago nga si Mar, binuking mo pa. Basta pag bad news, ayaw ni Mar humarap sa TV camera. Ngayong nagsilabasan ang pamumulitika ni Mar Roxas sa PNP ng Cavite at Laguna province, (as of press time), madidiin sin Mar Roxas. Mayaman kasi sa boto ang Cavite at Laguna tulad ng Cebu at Pangasinan.

      Si Mar Roxas, nagtatago ngayon sa palda ni Korina Sanchez.

  • Qwxyz

    sa January 13 ang gun ban, sana tuloytuloy ng gun ban yan.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Isaganilla-Gella/100003610474613 Isaganilla Gella

    madaming adik na tmatakbong senador…”malaman mo lang yan at nanginginig at bulol mag salita…”kaya dapat wag lang tingnan ang popularidad ng isang politiko na batayan para iboto natin .DAHIL BILANG SENADOR DYAN NKASALALAY ANG BATAS SA MATUWID.HINDI OBRA ANG NAMUNO SA BAYAN NA GUMAMIT NG DAHAS AT PANANAKOT”’ang iba naging taguan ang POLITICAL IMMUNITY PRA MATAKASAN ANG MGA PAGKAKASALA SA BATAS..”

  • Komen To

    “This man was notorious for using drugs (shabu),” yet he was able to run as local village chief. If he had won, the whole village could have been a drugs den. If drug test is required of drivers, should we not require them for candidates?

    To whom is the gun licensed? Is it registered to him? I thought .45 cal guns are restricted to military personnel only? Hmmm

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Not just in Cavite.  Even in Metro Manila like Manila, there are Barangay Officials who are drug addicts and running drug dens.

  • Jason Cruz

    `Cavite police ? eh isa sa pinakabulok na organization yan.    Cavite ? eh dyan sikat sa massacre at rape.  Salamat kay Sen Revilla Sr. sa binago nyang batas kapag bail sa baril.  Diba Robin Padilla.?

  • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

    This is bad news for DILG Sec. Mar Roxas and PNP Chief Purisima:

    01. According to the barangay chief, the incident of firing in the air indiscriminately by the gunman the night before the killing on Friday was already reported to the nearest police station. And yet no police was sent to the gunman’s house. The rampage could have been prevented.

    02. DILG Sec. Mar Roxas declared Cavite as hot spot for Election 2013. Yet, the PNP in Kawit Cavite according to both GMA7 and ABS-CBN reports are slow to react. Wala pa lang kwenta ang classification ng hot spot.

    03. Cavite and Laguna are vote-rich provinces which Mar Roxas and LP would like to have under their control. Cavite’s Provincial PNP chief has been changed by DILG Sec. Mar Roxas without going through the governor (which is the process prescribed by law).

    04. Now we know that the rising crime rate is not due to more willingness on the part of victims to report crimes. Contrary to the pambobola of DILG Sec. Mar Roxas, this is because there are more crimes and more criminals.

    Ito na ang pagkakataon ni Binay para banatan si Roxas. Matapos ang barilan sa Kalookan, biglang naglaho si Roxas na dating mahilig humarap sa TV camera. Ngayong naglabasan na sa TV and Radio news ang mga pamumulitika sa PNP ng Cavite at Laguna dahil sa Kawit massaker, mas madidiin si Mar Roxas. Sobrang atat kasi.

    • flavio

      anu ang pinagsasabi mo hunghang ? bawat problema sa mga kanto ba ay responsibilidad ni mar at DILG ? anu ang ginagawa ng mga barangay officials ? ng mayor ? ng chief of police ?

      • http://www.yellowmythbusters.gov.ph/ Weder-Weder Lang

        wag po kayong magalit. nagkagulo po ang Provincial PNP sa Cavite gawa ng pagpalit ni DILG Sec. Mar Roxas ng PNP Provincial chief doon. Yan din nabanggit ngayong hapon ng ABS-CBN na pro-Pnoy. Classified as election 2013 hotspot ang Cavite based on DILG Sec Mar Roxas’ hotspot list, and yet hindi alisto ang mga pulis doon.

        ang pikon ay laging talo. wag po kayong magalit.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/NYKIOQEDTUD4FPPPVHP6XMFNEA Raul

        Grabi naman ang bansang to. Pag may pumatay isisi sa  Gobyerno hahahahaha. e ang lokal police mga walang hiya dyan. May complaint na di pa inaksyonan. O ano nagyari?

    • lumpiangshanghai

      HANDS OFF ka Mar sa Laguna, di mo kayang gawin kay Governor Ejercito ang ginawa mo kay Governor Garcia ng Cebu. Di mo kilala si ASIONG SALONGA.

    • indiots

      kaya para rin sa akin wala na ang karesma both nina mar at corina…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Who controls Cavite?  The Remullas who used to be GMA’s allies.

      • batangpaslit

        Noel….long before naging Presidente si Cong Dadong the late father of Pres GMA, ganun na ang Cavite.
        Lahing matatapang talaga ang mga Caviteno. ‘Diba sa rebolusyon, isa sila sa mga naunang probinsiya ang umalsa kontra sa Kastila.

        Nang estudiante pa lang ako, naenkuentro ko ang mga pamangkin ni Narding Putik. Mga goon-bodyguard sila ng Warlord na nag hari-hari sa lugar namin.
        May napatay sa grupo ko, pero may patay din sa kanila.
        Patas lang. Sabayan lang.
        Pag election, ang labanan dian ay tit for tat lang naman.

    • batangpaslit

      impressive analysis

  • Commentator

    I think the government should increase the salary of police in the Philippines. I think there is no incentive for them to do their job good. I know a guy who is already a captain, a graduate of PNPA but still choose to work as a factory worker in Walmart here in Canada.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002207384387 Andrei Mendoza

      increase the salary? by how much? 50% increase? 100% increase? even if you increase the police salary, the amount of money they can make illegally is far more higher, does a million pesos a month or year not tempting for a police officers who makes 300k pesos a year?

      • Commentator

        I googled this and this is the salary of Toronto Police per year in Canadian Dollars

        Toronto Police Service Base Salary
        Cadet in Training $54,398.66
        4th Class Constable $60,455.95
        3rd Class Constable $69,098.18
        2nd Class Constable $77,736.24
        1st Class Constable $86,365.94

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002207384387 Andrei Mendoza

        and your point is?? increase the philippines police force salary similar to canadian police? do you even know the basic salary in PNP? where’s your logic in that?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

        What he’s trying to point out is that corruption among our local law enforcers could be reduced if they’re paid decent wages.

      • batangpaslit

        you are right, Bro!

      • AZKID13

        Fire them all and give the new ones good wages and better training.

      • batangpaslit

        Andrei….layo talaga ng pagka intindi mo sa blog ni Protector.
        Ang umiiral sa ‘yo ay ang iyong prejudice.
        Wala ngang logic kung bayaran mo in dollars ang pulis eh ang revenue ng Pilipinas in in peso currency.

        Sa sinabi ni Protector kung ang First Class Constable ay tumatanggap ng C$86K, with today’s forex that is equivalent to THREE MILLION SIX HUNDRED TWELVE THOUSAND ( PhP3,612,000.00) per annum.

        Tama ang reading ni Noel. Pay all government functionaries decent and livable wages.

      • AZKID13

        Increase it so that they will do there job and not be on the take all the time. This way you can fire the bad ones on the spot and clean up the Police Dept.

      • batangpaslit

        i concur with you, Protector

      • AZKID13

        My friend is a NYPD and last year with OT he pulled in 210K

      • batangpaslit

        Andrei….lumayo ka sa punto ni Protector.
        Ang ganit, kahit bigyan mo nang billion dollars, kulang pa sa kanya ang halagang ‘yon.
        Protector is talking about basic pay.
        Ibang usapan naman ang issue na pagiging kurakot at pagka ungas ng nanilbihan sa gobyerno.

    • kismaytami

      Incentive should only be given to those who excel in their job, not on those who do their job.

      You should also know how lazy they are to realize that they’re not even worth a cent of taxpayer’s money.

      • batangpaslit

        Tsong, saan ka ba based? Overseas ka? North America? or Middle East?
        Assuming you are a member of the police command in Manila holding the rank of First Lieutenant with a paltry salary of PhP13,000.00 a month, and you have a wife and a child to feed, an apartment to rent, plus utilities, and groceries to buy, do you think your income is decent enough to support you and your family?

      • kismaytami

        Lazy cops are not even worth a cent of taxpayer’s money.

      • batangpaslit

        anyone who is a employed by any government agency who is lazy and non-performing must be dismissed from the job, not just police
        i am an employer (private sector). i do not suffer with slackers. i fire them immediately

    • batangpaslit

      tumpak…baba talaga ng sahod ng pulis. a police lieutenant is merely receiving below 15K PESOS.
      with today’s forex, wala pang C$400.00 per month.

  • niceguy60

    Why is life so cheap in the Philippines?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002207384387 Andrei Mendoza

      why? because, philippines is still a barbaric backward country!

    • http://twitter.com/akosijapney Al Japney J. Loredo

      Lives of Filipino people is not even for sale. What are you talking about?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      If there’s a poor family with 10 children, life becomes cheap.

    • batangpaslit

      some people do not value life

    • AZKID13

      Cuz if you have nothing you can’t loose nothing  !!

  • lumpiangshanghai

    Life is so cheap that you can compare the Philippines to countries like Somalia, Mali, Yemen but Philippines is better than other countries like Uganda, Congo and Liberia that rebels eat people’s organ.

    • http://www.facebook.com/dexter.gomez.14 DexTer Gomez

      don’t compare a country to another, especially ours, just because of this barbaric incident by a barbaric native of imus cavite. some highly developed countries also have their share of crimes like this. the shooting spree in norway, canada and lastly in connecticut, united states where 20 children were killed. open up your mind, there is no safe place right now. were living in a cruel world

      • batangpaslit

        you are a patriot

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TWVIBNBHJIBKXLUC5IT2JYM5E Harry

      At least they put some use to the corpses rather than die of hunger.

      • batangpaslit

        survival eh..

    • jga94

      I don’t think we are comparable to those countries….I do not know how you got that idea…

      • batangpaslit

        hehehe….dimo tanggap eh? basahin mo ang sagot ni Noel

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Eat people’s organs?  What organs?  Private organs?  Even in the Phl, couple also eats each other’s organ.

      • batangpaslit

        hahaha…

    • batangpaslit

      nang lumaban ang Ilaga sa mga abusadong Moslem sa Mindanao na pinamumunuan ni Toothpick, ang nahuli nilang kalaban ay pinupugutan ng tenga at iniihaw. tapos, ilublob ni Toothpick sa suka ang inihaw na tenga at kakainin ni Toothpick at kasamahan nia sa harap ng kalaban na napugutan ng tenga

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SRZX4KS3LXYDDQZNLW464YQG3I Rodel

    Wag na tayong magtaka nakakatakot iyang Cavite. Very notorious yan sa mga mamamatay tao. Kung may negosyo ka diyang retail na malakas ang benta twice a week kang siguradong holdup. Mga police diyan karamihan cohorts nang mga masasamang elemento pinatunayan yan sa imbestigador.  

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Hindi naman kasing sama ang Cavite ngayon kumpara noon lalo na sa panahon ni Nardong Putik.

      • batangpaslit

        Narding Putik….ang isa kong pinsan, retired NBI, ay kasama sa pag hunting kay Narding Putik

    • batangpaslit

      sabi ko nga eh….sila ang protector. hindi naman maging laganap ang krimen kung walang government authority o agent of authority na magbigay ng protection sa mga kriminal.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDXEVEFHW2ZT5VWHDWBNM6XGE4 RyanE

    The chief of police in that province should be relieved if proven that his men did not act on the complaints from the community against Bae.

    • kismaytami

      Dito sa lungsod namin sa Cavite kapag nagpunta ka sa presinto upang humingi ng tulong dahil na-holdup ka, isang malutong na “WALA PO KAMING MAGAGAWA RIYAN” ang isasagot sa iyo ng mga inutil na pulis sa presinto. Ang masama pa at sasabihan ka pa nila ng “MADALAS HO TALAGA YANG MANGYARI DITO” at “PALIPAT-LIPAT KASI YUNG MGA HOLDAPER”.

      Sayang talaga ang buwis na binabayad namin sa mga batugang yan.

      • batangpaslit

        baka naman sila ang mga protector ng mga magnanakaw kaya wala silang “magagawa”. ‘di kaya?

    • batangpaslit

      may punto

  • TEAM PNOY

    TOTAL GUN BAN. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/jadmarley Jad Marley

    paang baliw hanep haha

  • kismaytami

    LOLS! Nanisi pa ang magaling na gobernador ng Cavite. Eh siya nga itong busy na sa pangangampanya! Nagkalat na ang mga billboard sa mga kakalsadahan ng buong Cavite. My gudness at pera pa ng taumbayan ang gagastusin nitong trapong ito sa pagpapalibing sa mga biktima! Hindi ba pwedeng ibenta ang ari-arian ng suspek para yun na lang?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/36O4ZGE5JY24XE4XQOXBM6O4WE Klepto

    Walang pwede maitulong ang gobyerno diyan. Busy ang mga pulitiko sa iyotan at tsupaan.

    • batangpaslit

      tsupaan? intriguing ah. may nag eskrima pala sa Congress at sa Senate?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WC2VPZRJETRO5KOU4VOZCJXEDY Tamarindwalk

    Is there any valid reason for us to be copying the Americans?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_44QGTQXFYHNVPNMX453LWBPMXM Opel

    the campaign against illegal drugs is going nowhere because of the extremely high degree of corruption in law enforcement, the DOJ and courts. 500t kadalasan pagayos sa cases ng droga. Tsk tsk. Matigok na sana lahat ng buwaya sa lipunan.

    • pangitbudhiko

      pati na rin yung mga pasaway dito sa forum na ito, tulad ni “””Nakatutok”” ””jose””’
      matoday narin sa na sila

    • pangitbudhiko

      permettez-nous d’inclure aussi tous ces gens qui sont le cretin comme “””nakatutok”” “”jose”

    • batangpaslit

      lucrative business nga ang illicit drugs. may patayan talaga.

      at least ang isang illegal activity like Jueteng, wala pang na report of mass killing.
      may natanggal lang na Presidente at mga nasirang pangalan.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TWVIBNBHJIBKXLUC5IT2JYM5E Harry

    Why not? Are we really developed like Norway, U.S. and Canada?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TWVIBNBHJIBKXLUC5IT2JYM5E Harry

    Why not? Are we really developed like Norway, U.S. and Canada?

  • Julius_Caesar1

    I think its time to bring out the death penalty.

    Starting with those drug lords.

    • batangpaslit

      Taka nga ako bakit inalis ang death penalty. Premeditated crimes must be matched with equally grave sentence.

      • Julius_Caesar1

        Hence the death penalty should once more be revived. When the death penalty takes effect they should broadcast it live so that it will serve as a warning for criminals who intend to commit heinous crimes. Whats the use of a death penalty when the general public cannot witness it live?

      • batangpaslit

        It must, Bro.
        In this manner, the proposed move shall likewise pre-empt the aggrieved family from taking personal revenge against the offender.
        The mandate of any government is to protect law abiding citizens, and punish the wrongdoer to avoid chaos and preserve order in society.
        The state have the innate police power to carry out that mandate by instituting a law that is just, fair, and right specially to those who were agrieved by criminals.
        Abolishing death penalty is a false sense of charity.
        Yes, I believe in mercy. I believe in rewarding the good, but I believe too the dispensation of justice to comfort the wronged party, and stamp out wrong perpetrated and perpetuated by evildoers.

      • Julius_Caesar1

        Well said bro.

      • batangpaslit

        Diyahe ako sa iyo eh. Imagine, the most brilliant General the Roman Empire ever produced ay Tukayo mo, tapos ang sagot ko pabalang-balang?
        ehehehe…
        Besides, ang Lolo ko sa maternal side, may lahing Italian. Nakakahiya talaga baka ikaw ay may dugong Julius Caesar, kaya maigi na ‘yong wika nga measured ang sagot both from the heart and mind.
        chuckles…
        Levity aside, Bok, I concur with your thoughts to restore death penalty for grave offenses committed.

      • Julius_Caesar1

        Idol ko kasi si Julius Caesar pati na rin si Joseph Stalin at Jose Rizal. Yup I’m for the death penalty, the RH law and the divorce bill.

        Simple lang yan bro, ang mga Damaso ay dapat huwag makikialam sa politiko.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    I used to brag to my American friends that even if there are crimes in the Phl, criminals don’t just shoot children unlike in America.  I’m wrong.

    • INQ_reader

      After one incident, you conclude that criminals shoot children in the Philippines. Is that correct?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

        Not at all.  But is that the only incident when children are shot?  There were so many in the past, right?  But of course not in the magnitude of the ones killed in the US.  But should we wait until the Phl become like another US?

      • INQ_reader

        Why not answer your question yourself? You are the one who already made the conclusion.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

        You’re a dick.  If I see you I’m gonna shoot you in the head.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/HJ6Q5FKE6ZCMDAQ5WXN3OO4QIA Edu Shabadoo

        I wouldn’t be surprised if Noel and INQ_Reader = same person, arguing with himself.

      • batangpaslit

        hahahaha..

      • INQ_reader

        Thanks for showing that you can’t handle my arguments.

      • batangpaslit

        wala namang sinabi si Noel na ganun.
        you read in your erroneous interpretation, Tsong. read out what Noel meant when he penned his blog.

      • AZKID13

        Crazy out of there mind people shoot anyone, that’s why there called crazy !!

    • batangpaslit

      chuckles….are you confessing and repenting Noel? well, what you disclosed is an act of humility on your part.
      ako, sobra ang lungkot.
      misplaced ang tapang ni kabayan Bae. mabuti na lang hini letter “T” ang simula ng apelyedo nia.
      sana sa bungad pa lang, sa pulis na sia nakipagbakbakan para the same level field ang labanan. may baril sia, ang pulis may baril din.
      pero mga bata na wala namang nagawang kasalanan sa kanya?

  • ben311

    mas maraming pinapatay ang mga lulon sa droga kaysa stray bullets…wala ng pagasa ang pinas !

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYOKKWJDJKP6HLLGJ7TVFKQVPI Rene

       Baka susunod ka ni Bae. Ganyan ang mga taong nawalan ng pag asa.

      • batangpaslit

        hehehe…tinatakot mo naman si Ben

  • ben311

    mar roxas is part of the problem not the solution ! walang backbone.

    • batangpaslit

      eh, sino kandidato mo for DILG

  • jga94

    GUN CONTROL….GUN CONTROL…GUN CONTROL….

  • opinyonlangpo

    Drugs. And sometimes too much liquor. Those are the culprit, the gun was just a tool. What if the killer used a butcher’s knife, will they also make a law to ban butcher’s knives?

    • batangpaslit

      you have a point.
      cars can be used as “weapons” too pag nanagasa ng kalaban.
      following your argument—ipagbawal na rin ang mga bus, ang kotse, ang jeep, ang bike.

    • 3Jomari3

       This logic is fallacious. The purpose of a butcher’s knife is to be used to produce meat, how many people have been killed by a butcher’s knife? The gun’s purpose is shoot and kill, countless people have been killed by guns, murders, homicides, suicides, accidental shooting and road rage shootings. One of the unintended outcomes of martial law is the dramatic reduction of gun violence when the regime banned and confiscated guns. More guns more killings, less guns less killings, no guns… We can not depend on police enforcement because there is none, they can’t even enforce laws vs jueteng and kotong kops. Have a total gun ban like in the UK and Japan where crimes with the use of gun is almost negligible compared to the US and RP. Gun ownership is a a major safety harzard in the Phil.

      • opinyonlangpo

        The point is that it is still the human factor that matters most and the gun is just a tool. There are countries which requires their citizens to be armed and amazingly the gun related crimes are near to nil. Weak people like you treats the gun as a source of power and not a tool so probably you are not responsible enough to own one. Gun ownership is needed to protect life and property specially in the Philippines where cops and military abuse their authorities, not to mention the mob politicians.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IGLQQ2TTZF3BAWUHUWLFWVPZDE Vladymir

      Think, use your brain,with a butcher’s knife the guy couldn’t kill as many as he have done,people can run and be far away from the killer,With a tool like a cal.45 1911?I don’t know how you analyze it,,you must be a nut job too. 

      • opinyonlangpo

        You must be talking to yourself, nuts. That is just an example of a tool that can be used for killing, a tool is a tool and it is still the human factor that counts, dummy. You probably has no brain to think.

  • $18209031

    Wow, anong sa utak kayumangmang, Lasinggo ito !! baka bakukang ang pumasok sa utak !! Dios KO port Santo Domingo de IMahe !!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/DE46XV4JUTB3WOWECSZ3TKLX7I Catherine

      overacting ra pod ka kaayo…kung maka comment ka mura kang si kinsa nga limpyo…look at your user name!!! you are so vulgar and it just goes to show how you are as a person!….  so get off your high horse and maybe you can start praying for peace and order for our country and the rest of the world!!! you hypocrite!

      • $18209031

        Kabalo man ka dai uyy daghan ug utak bakukang ang bayang kayumangmang . Normal lang tan awon pero caballerong malasway.

        . Kung maka ari lang nang baril, parang sino na. Ayan, ang daming patay na mga innosenteng chikiting.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/DE46XV4JUTB3WOWECSZ3TKLX7I Catherine

        kasabot ko sa imong gi pasabot, but you dont have to call our Country Kaymangmang…. comments and perceptions like that makes it worse… avoid generalizing to avoid conflicts, that is my point.  there is no way you can make a difference by doing that! maayong adlaw kanimo.

      • $18209031

        Ayawg kabalaka dai, kay kaning mga tagaleglegs at ilokanos ang gahawak aning gobyernos Manila sukad  pa sa paghuman sa geras nippos in 1946. Unsay nahitabo? Wala , puro ra politiking mga yawaa. Hugaw kaayo ni sila . Have you heard of the Ilocandio and tagaleg superiority? They are practically running this govt to the pits, monopolized na  ni nila dugay na kaayo. The corruptions has been so horrendous…Mga dalo ni sila kaayo….

      • kilawon(the return)

        dakogKAGutin..  tinood na ang mga taga norte feeling superior na sila! permi mo discriminate sa mga bisaya..mga batig mga nawong baya og mga plastik kaayo!…maayo mubuwag na ang CEBU para dili ta matakdan nila!

      • $18209031

        Sneaky na sila bai purag Hudeyo. Basta dili ra na sila musalaag diri sa Sugbo, ok na. Sila ug tagaleglegs  mai hinungdan ilang ganahan agawon  ning Mindanao sa panahon sa puti. Manila elites wanted to control the island of Mindanao , thats why all these politicians of the past wanted to give homestead to northern tribes. Sila ra pud gapahimulos kaya ang mga moros nangisug ana nila.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/VBN5IUGKHSGIHDV5L6QVG2KBTI Leop233

    “Cavite Governor Juanito Victor “Jonvic” Remulla condemned the carnage which “could have been prevented if only the police listened to the complaints from the community” against Bae.” Paano makikinig e TTTTTTRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPAAAAAAAAA e.

    • batangpaslit

      ito ang masaklap.
      kaya lan siguro na tsugi na rin ng pulis ang shooter sa bandang huli dahil baka kung buhay pa ang naimbestiga kung sino ang kanilang “protector” mabanggit pa ang pangalan nila.

  • MrJoseRizal

    “Cavite Governor Juanito Victor “Jonvic” Remulla condemned the carnage which “could have been prevented if only the police listened to the complaints from the community” against Bae”

    Remula should also own some responsibility of what happened. Doesn’t a governor have the power to arrest some like? Cavite pa naman yan, kahit sino dinadampot na lang basta basta. Papogi talaga Remulla na to

    • batangpaslit

      ano ang authorit ng elected civilian official over the police on matters like these? the law and order campaign?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/VBN5IUGKHSGIHDV5L6QVG2KBTI Leop233

    Killing spree may taga reload pa..

    • batangpaslit

      ibig sabihin, “mayaman” ang shooter. eh, Cal .45 Pistol pa ang gamit. hindi mura ang baril na ‘yan.

  • $18209031

    RIP sa mga nalansa !! Dios Ko Santo Papa,  ipagdadasal nyo ang bayang Kayumangmang from your  cozy office in Vatican City. Listen to the pleadings of Santo Calungsod our very own saint of all saints. No more import prayers from Euro trash of yesteryears. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/AHDPMS4BJI3JWYICWYMBSPVTRU Jay

      Sira ulo! Anong pinagsasabi mo jan???? dapat ang mga kagaya nyo ang mga pinagbabaril para mabawasan, kung di man maubos, ang mga pesteng insekto na kagaya mo sa pinas na syang pinagmumulan ng droga! Kayumangmang ka jan! Baka ikaw ang numero unong ungas na mangmang! Magtigil ka baka hindi ka lang barilin, chop-chopin ka pa!

      • $18209031

        Caballerong JayJay,  chuchupa ka ba sa barangay kapitan mo ? Hala mag inuman kayo para magpaplano ano ang magandang malasway na negosyo. Kayo ang mga tauhan mga dyan sa drogas at drug pushing. Pati yang mga anak at anak anakan nyo ay nasama na rin. Dios Ko Porto Santo De Imahe. 

        Gusto mo bang mag huhurementado ? Labas ka para titikluin ka sa may mga baril. Baklang silahis  lang bumabaril sa mga bata . Kung tutuong killer ka,  magbarilan ka sa may mga may baril rin. Ugaling ganon ay kayumangmang lang pero kung magbakbakan na matamaan kaagad. 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/DE46XV4JUTB3WOWECSZ3TKLX7I Catherine

        Hoi! mag tawag tawag pa ka og mga Santos unya ang imong sinultian sobra pa sa mga criminal!  Bastos and Vulgar!…maka ulaw ka sa atong banay nga mga bisaya!  Now, at the rate that you are ranting and raving, dont you think that you are mentaly disturbed too?…  why dont you just see that there are a lot of issues that needs to be taken cared of us as a nation and not only the goverment.  All of us needs to do something to achieve the changes that we seek!..Moron! may pa kayumangmang kayumangmang paka diha! over kaayo ka!

      • $18209031

        Panahon na mag ampo ta dai oi sa kay Santo Calungsod na taga atoa. Humana na nang ampos sa mga imported na lasway na santoses . Mga lumang panahon sa Europa na gidala diri. Ka buang ma na oi dili na nato kilala nang mga yawaa pero gi brainwash tag ampo. 
        Sa tinuod mga silahis ug bayut ng mga kaballeros na sila pareha sa Santo Papa. Kung duol kas mga pare, duol ka pud sa promotion to become saints, diba ?

        Dont  sway the topic to mental illness. I know what your trying to do , deflect the  sad state of the Pino nation.  If you want to talk about mental illness, unsa diagnosis imong gusto e discuss nato ?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GURBWYA3AIXC22EF6E6HIHRNQE Ornbort Vortingeresdemesus

      mestizo ka ate?

  • kunsabagay

    drug addiction + loose firearm = two of the countries biggest problems. 

    Hope the gov’t will spearhead a sensible program to address these

    • batangpaslit

      kailan pa kaya mangyari? it is my wish too.
      if only the government could focus on economic reforms and social restructuring, perhaps problems like these—lawlessness—would be properly addressed.

  • TEAM PNOY

    Get those guns out of the streets, if not, this incident will not be the last one. 
    If ever there will be a next masaker, I just hope a member of malakanyang or congress will do the same as what bae did! 
    Basta, not in veterans lang ha.

  • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

    Dati sa Estados Unidos lang nangyayari ang ganitóng cademóniohan. Ñgayón umabot na sa atin.  =(

    • simonibarra27

      Tangi! araw araw gumagawa ang simbahang catolikoliko ng kademoniohan pero d mo lang pinapansin!

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        ¿Tapos icáw? Sa pananalitá mong ganián, sa tiñgín mo ángel ca at ang iyóng “pananámpalatayà”? Hipócrito. Ang layo ng usapan, chong. Mahalín mo na lang ang familia mo at nang macaíwas sa cademóniohan ng pananalitá mó.

      • batangpaslit

        away na…

      • Bongoton

        Ano-ano ba ang kadimonyohan na mga gawi ng simbahang Katoliko. Umayos ka naman pre ilahad mo at sasagutin kita punto por punto ng lumitaw kung ano talaga ang totoo.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AUNBI66J3EGEPMV5LFCN53OUGI JEO

    Again this is the incompetency of our officials and our government.

    He fires shots in new year eve and again in jan 2 but our police or government are not doing their job.

    • simonibarra27

      Actaully PNP is doing their job consistently, Its their job to be inutile ineffient and uncapable. if under the payroll ng pulitiko yan sus napaka gagaling nyan! talo pa FBI.

      • batangpaslit

        i like your sarcasm, Bro. kung hindi lang malungkot ang mga pangyayari, bubunghalit ako ng tawa eh
        imagine, the killer had 30 minutes of shooting people unhampered?
        kalahaint oras—napunta ng palengke, namaril ng mga kapitbahay nia, walang pulis na nag respond?

        kawawa ang batang traumized. sarili niang Ninong ang bumaril sa kanya.

      • INQ415

        meron pa syang personal reloader

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GURBWYA3AIXC22EF6E6HIHRNQE Ornbort Vortingeresdemesus

        pero pag kotongan hala. wala pang 30 seconds.

  • batangpaslit

    misplaced naman ang tapang ni kabayan na natalo sa halalan bilang Barangay Kapitan.
    tama lang na sa pulis sia maki pagbarilan para patas ang laban. may baril sia, may baril din ang pulis.
    matatapang talaga ang mga Caviteno.
    pero bakit mga bata? mga kapitbahay? ang pinagbaril nia bago nia sinagupa ang pulis?

    sabi ni Gov Remulla, he returned to Cavite to “celebrate” the New Year? ganito na pala sa bayang tinubuan natin how to celebrate the new year? ang mga bata pinagbabaril?

    kung population control ang pag usapan, eh, ang kailangan lang pala ay Cal .45 Pistol, hindi na kailangan ang debate tungkol sa RH Bill.

  • TEAM PNOY

    TOTAL GUN BAN, NOW NA. 

    Confiscate all firearms. Inventory them and then let authorized police agents use them. This will also solve the issue about shortage of firearms of law enforcement agents!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5VOLTUERMYV2EZGGJ7MIS6BPIY -DJDiaz-

    I’m from Tabon Kawit Cavite. Malungkot ang nangyari kaninang umaga.

    4 yung problema

    1 – Drugs
    2 – Alcohol
    3 – Guns
    4 – Government Officials

    All i can say is talamak ang droga sa Cavite. Di lang na-hi-highlight pero kaliwaan ang shabu at marijuana. And syempre, may protector na mga pulis and government officials

    As for Gun Control – this is not just an issue in Cavite but all over the Philippines. Hindi reason ang “madaling makakuha ng baril kahit walang license.” If stores would report their inventory, that’s baby steps for Gun Control. Actually, for me, Gun Control is No Guns at all.

    Sana sa next election, itigil na ang political dynasty sa Cavite. Wala naman masyadong akong nakikitang improvement. The Remulas and Revillas. And OMFG.. tatakbo si Jolo Revilla sa Cavite. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GURBWYA3AIXC22EF6E6HIHRNQE Ornbort Vortingeresdemesus

      then educate your voters. volunteer ka kaya or encourage intelligent people to register. dati nasa isang malaking sasakyan ako. puro nakatapos. ZERO percent nakarehistro. e pumunta ka dun sa may tambay. lahat nakarehistro. all most of the thinking class do kasi is vent their anger in forums. go out and do something :)

      • xrisp

        Sa mga iboboto naman brod, di ba ang nangyayari sa mamamayan ay “choose the lesser evil…” na lang kasi ang mga may kakayahan lang kumandidato ay ang may mga pera at malimit ay hawak na rin sila ng dating mga politiko. Kaya kahit may mga magagaling at matitinong tao na puedeng kumandidato ay di naman magawa kung wala silang pera.  Marami tuloy nawawalan na rin ng gana na bumoto kasi wala ka rin namang choice.

    • xrisp

      “… And syempre, may protector na mga pulis and government officials…”

      Isa na ito sa dahilan kung bakit hindi matitigil ang kalakaran ng mga binanggit mo. Hindi bulag ang mga mamamayan sa mga nangyayari sa kapaligiran. Sino ang pagsusumbungan ng mamamayan kung alam mo na walang magyayari sa isusumbong mo kung mismong mga autoridad ang protektor ng mga gawaing labag sa batas.

  • Crysis_III

    Hahayz… sobrang kaawa-awa naman ng mga biktima… Bakit pa naman mga bata dinali… Why can’t these crazy people stay in their homes and shoot themselves… 

  • indiosbravos2002

    The only way to account for illegal guns out there is to impose a total gun ban. Confiscate all guns. Slap a hefty penalty on civilians found to hold one. Pag may dala considered crimnal element na. Only security guards (sa trabaho lang), police or military can carry firearms.
    Yong iba na nagaargue na yong baril is for safety reasons. Ang liit lang ng porsyento nila. Ang baril ay mahal kaya yong nakakaaford lang niyan ay yong may extra money. At kung may pera ka talaga, hire bodyguards, status symbol pa.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PM6JHCFR2KT2AURMWRDUXBNLQY Darwin

      Paano na si KKK president? Di ba iyan kasayahan niya?

    • AZKID13

      Most of the time the police are the ones doing the killing.

  • Ommm

    ” Bae’s attacks lasted about 30 minutes.”

    No wonder the PNP cannot enforce gun laws…they can’t even get to the scene of a major crime in less than half an hour…i wonder how many victims they could have saved had they responded promptly.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/5VOLTUERMYV2EZGGJ7MIS6BPIY -DJDiaz-

      And the Kawit PNP Office is only 10 minutes away from Tabon

  • Crysis_III

    The roots are: 
    1. FAMILY PROBLEM 2. DRUGS 3. GUNS 4. ALCOHOL

  • Hunter421

    “It’s really hard to predict what will happen in the future, it’s hard to know what’s on one man’s mind but I don’t believe that will happen in our country.” – Chief Superintendent Raul D. Petrasanta, 18 December 2012
    Perhaps we should see what he thinks today.

  • D_BystandeR

    Persons applying for gun licence should be examined if they are not taking “illegal drugs.” Using this kind of prohibited drug will surely dampen their mind and sense of normalcy and to them “killing people” is just like slaughtering chickens.

  • $37644997

    Every local government needs a “buy back” program on guns-licensed or not.This can also make a big difference.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

    one snap is all that’s needed, ain’t it, mr petrasanta?

  • INQ415

    Jose Acuña Bautista = Nardong Putik :P

  • Rovingmoron

    Again, the report didn’t mention as to whether the handgun used by the suspect was licensed or not. If it wasn’t licensed, where did he buy it? If it was licensed, how did he pass the PNP’s psycho test required for gun license applicants? That’s horrible! How could he do that to the innocent kids?

    • bakitkailangan

      Drugs and alcohol

      “Borromeo said police found “drug paraphernalia” in Bae’s house. They
      also found an expired license for an M-16 rifle, but not a license for
      Bae’s 1911 pistol. ”

  • $18209031

    Bigyan mo ang kayumangmang ng baril, lalaki ang ulo parang sino. Bigyan mo ng bala , lalong lumalaki ang ulo. Bigyan mo yan ng pang inuman, lalong  tumataas ang self ego. Bigyan mo yan ng problema sa buhay na hindi nya kaya, mag huhurementado yan ng walang oras !!

    Wala tamang training sa baril, dapat binaril nya ang sariling nyang ulo. Dios Ko Santisima, hindi ito nakapunta ng simbahan kaya walang Dios sa ulob ng dibdib.

    • Tnosce

      Nakalimutan mo yung bigyan ng condom na libre sa “:RH law ” DakuAkongUt*n darami ang rapist. 

      • jebgo23

         Libreng condom dadami rapist? Haayyy, kaya di umaasenso bansa dahil sa mga ganitong baluktot na pag-iisip.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/DE46XV4JUTB3WOWECSZ3TKLX7I Catherine

        i agree with your opinion ….i was just about to comment on the same line of thoughts as you… grabeh!…paano nila naiisip ang mga ganitong reasoning?  and by the way…long before PNOY’s reighn people had owned their guns so plzzzz….as if PNOY put the gun on their hands and told them to start shooting…

    • speaksoftlylove

       Nakalimutan mo rin sabihin na bigyan ng baril ang lahat na siraulo at RHabnoy para di na kailangan ang RH law.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W6H5DZKUQTUASP4S6CGTK7B3E4 kevin

    Why didn’t this crazy man just shoot some corrupt politician instead of some innocents people……

    • batangpaslit

      protector nia ang mga corrupt politiians….nabaril sia nang pulis dahil baka pag nahuling buhay ay baka mag ibong pitpit pa at ikanta kung sino ang naka kolekta ng benta ng mga illegl drugs na binebenta nia

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DE46XV4JUTB3WOWECSZ3TKLX7I Catherine

    overacting ra pod ka kaayo…kung maka comment ka mura kang si kinsa nga limpyo…look at your user name!!! you are so vulgar and it just goes to show how you are as a person!…. so get off your high horse and maybe you can start praying for peace and order for our country and the rest of the world!!! you hypocrite!
    show more

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/DE46XV4JUTB3WOWECSZ3TKLX7I Catherine

      this post is directed to “dakuakongutin” poster…!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GURBWYA3AIXC22EF6E6HIHRNQE Ornbort Vortingeresdemesus

        don’t feed a troll.

      • batangpaslit

        banat Catherine

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DE46XV4JUTB3WOWECSZ3TKLX7I Catherine

    overacting ra pod ka kaayo…kung maka comment ka mura kang si kinsa nga limpyo…look at your user name!!! you are so vulgar and it just goes to show how you are as a person!…. so get off your high horse and maybe you can start praying for peace and order for our country and the rest of the world!!! you hypocrite!
    show more

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/DE46XV4JUTB3WOWECSZ3TKLX7I Catherine

      This comment is directed to “dakuakongutin” poster!

  • maypakialamtayo

    hala! yung mga pulis na nakapatay kay Ronald Bae lagot kayo kay eta rosales ng human rights commission paiimbistigahan kayo nyan, bakit nyo siya pinatay?

    • batangpaslit

      chuckles…
      levity aside, I am intrigued of your banter how Eta Rosales would deal this issue.

  • $18209031

    Gun Ban ang kailangan ng bayang Kayumanggi. 

  • Gerald Abueva

    Where is Mar Roxas of DILG and the new PNP Chief?

    I thought Mar Roxas claimed that crime has not gone up?

    Another failure of law enforcement. Another big failure of Mar Roxas.

    Btw, Gov. Remulla is complaining about Mar Roxas who changed the PNP head of Cavite without going through him. Pati ba naman law and order, pinopolitika ni Mar Roxas. Masyadong focus sa politika si Mar Roxas, which explains why he neglected law enforcement.

    • rock7222

      Gerald Abueva,

      Kahit si Superman pa ang DILG, he would NOT have been able to STOP Bae from his rampage.

      Roxas has been DILG for 3 months. But even if Batman & Superman were DILG for 1,2,3 years- No one can stop a Crazy, Deranged person who has a gun from a shooting spree.

      Tama na ang DRAMA !  People lost their lives ! Tama na ang Pulitika mo !!!

      Every single week, there are RANDON Shootings in Cavite since I was a teenager 40 years ago ! 

      Naka suot palang ng  Diaper  si Mar Roxas at Governor Johnvic Remulla… Nagpapatayan na sa Cavite using unlicensed guns !!!!

      Stop the DRAMA !! Hindi ito pelikula !!!

      • batangpaslit

        hehehe…natumbok mo

    • batangpaslit

      Tsong, related ka sa Abueva na naging Presidente ng U.P.?
      Sana, nakuha mo ang galing ng kamag-anak mo how to properly analyze the situation.
      Police failure and the spiraling up of crimes in the old homeland had been the problem of all administrations.
      Mali-mali naman analysis mo. Sayang ang ID mong Abueva.

  • $17848434

    Di kaya ‘to nagalit dahil maraming mga inaanak na humahabol? O kaya, typical filipino gaya-gaya mentality. Uso ang pamamaril sa US of Hey, nakikigaya na rin dito sa pinas. Kasi uso sa US of hey!

    • batangpaslit

      di naman yata, Bok, humingi ng regalo ang inaanak nia

  • kalikasanipagtanggol

    Kahit araw-araw may gun ban, may kriminal ba sumusunod sa batas?

    • batangpaslit

      the best argument
      law abiding citizens must be armed to protect themselves from criminals and abusive police and military personnel

  • Joel Ilao

    So, to the PNP Chief who said that the Colorado shooting incident won’t happen in the Philippines, here’s your answer. 

    • batangpaslit

      sinabi nia ‘yan ng bagong Chief PNP na di mangyari sa Pilipinas?

  • Philcruz

    When that US massacre at Connecticut happened last December, many were incredulous at what was happening to America. As if it couldn’t happen here.  I said a similar incident would happen here because the seed had already been planted.  And so it did.

    Senator Sotto, please stand up and hurl your usual sarcastic challenges to the President again to do something about it. And while you’re at it, hurl the challenge to yourself, too. Unless, of course, you  are a “gunslinger” type yourself.

    • batangpaslit

      predictable eh..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DC6NG5LRTD3HOCQPAYFQ53NWIY Crisanto

    Bae as in binabae was a coward….

    • batangpaslit

      palitan mo ng letter “T” ang unang letra

  • blainz

    Condolences on all the victim’s families. Very worrying that Bae has taken to copying shooters gone amok in the US. I hope none follow his example.

    Since Bae has served a term as councilor, the Supreme Court might want to reverse its 2008 decision striking down Comelec Resolution No. 6489, which mandated drug testing among candidates. Political power emboldens temperamentaly unbalanced people and eases access to firearms, another example being the fugitive Ecleo.

  • OleSapra aka ARGUS

    FIREARMS CRACKDOWN

    ANA: “Kung meron palang 600 thousand unlicensed firearms sa Phl, lubhang nakababahala ito. Ano naman kaya ang PAKULO ng bagong chief PNP para masolusyunan ang nauuso sa mundong pamamaril sa mga inosenteng tao?”

    LISA: “Batay sa census (daw) eh meron namang 1.2 million licensed FAs sa bansa. So, suma total eh merong 1.8 milyon mga baril, ke lisensiyado o hindi, ang hawak ng mga taong MATINO at SIRA-ULO, pulis man o sibilyan, right?”

    CION: “Inaamin naman ng PNP na walang issued FAs ang mga bagong pulis, kung kaya bumibili sila ng sariling mga walang lisensiyang baril ang may kayang bumili. Ibig sabihin, hindi traceable ang tama ng balang galing sa unlicensed FAs porke walang record ito mula sa PNP-FEU, o, ‘di ba?”

    • batangpaslit

      reur last paragraph….tama ka

  • $18209031

    Bakit may M16 itong ganggung ? Yan nga kalagmitan mga ex militar ,  ang mga pangarap mga yan ay magkaruon ng M 16 na mahaba after mawala na sila sa serbisyo kaya walang rehistro ang M 16 nya. Sakupin na ninyo yan mga pulis sa PNP.

  • $18209031

    Yan , pag dedebate ninyo sa Senado at Kongreso ang GUN BAN. Ang mga iresponsable gunowners ay karamihan sa  mga nasa poder lalo na ex PNP, AFP , anak emplyeda ng gobyerno at abusong mayayaman.  Dapat gun ban moratorium muna at magdedate ang mga lawmakers para may topic tayong ipagdiscuss. Hala , ganon na lang…

  • Fulpol

    a psychologically disordered person….

    while he used his gun to kill, others used their influence to destroy…

  • Fulpol

    people who fire their guns during New Year’s eve are psychologically disordered people..

    no exemption to that…

  • Marcos5

    Ban Guns ?   O A style pinoy mentality wishfull thinking gaya gaya.   It will only happen during Marcos era Regime you have to declare  “Martial Law”.
    During People Power civilians learned hard enough-

    Anti gun nuts and the gov. should rather focus and concentrate on stamping out illegal drugs esp Shabu  and manufacturing of Shabu coming from China.   Illegal drugs can destabilize a whole nation  ” remember the Opium Wars”? 

    • Fulpol

      shabu is like jueteng… they can’t eliminate it… they won’t eliminate it…

      shabu is also a king… money….

    • batangpaslit

      agree.
      i believe, law abiding citizens must have arms for self-protection.
      kung ako ang kapatid ng inaanak na binaril at sa bahay ako, hugutin ko ang aking .9mm at makibakbakan ako sa dumale sa kapatid ko.
      ang ungas at may hawak na baril ay matapang dahil alam nila ang pinagbabaril nila ay hindi makalaban dahil walng armas.
      ‘yan ang psychology ng mga criminal minded individuals.
      pag helpless ka, biktima ka nila.

      • banditpogi

        Tama ka diyan brod.  Sana dumami pa ang lahi mo para mabawasan mga siga sa atin.

    • banditpogi

      Wishfull thinking nga lang talaga.  They think if a law banning possession of all firearms is enacted, all guns will magically disappear. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AWVGQCP55LG3USVAXHXXPAO7WE jez

    should have gun ban in phils. sana naman ung mga police nga nakadestino sa bawat lugar,alerto sila.hindi ung ng text2 lang.incompetent na ang ating kapolisan ngayon.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WIWYLFLU4LPKS7B2ZLLRVFKS3Y vir_a

    The police know there are people in the community with unlicensed guns and they don’t do something. It’s weird.

  • Marcos5

    Ban Shabu.    Heck during my high school years 2 in my class are Shabu users.  One richie rich konyo kid and another one Son of a prominent provincial Governor studying in Manila.

    Imagine now probably 5 in each each class is a Shabu user.  The next generation will be an all time High time rich and poor use the same illegal drug add the local politicians it will be = to Narco politics during election time.

    • kunsabagay

      matagal na pong banned ang shabu fyi

      • batangpaslit

        nakaligtaan nia siguro na sa simula pa lang declared ang Shabu as illicit drugs

  • $18209031

    Sa panahon ni Makoy ang mga abusong militar ang mga nagpapaputok  ng kanilang M 16ss lalo na pasko at pesta lalo na lasinggos at bodyguards na matataas. Karamihan mga ito ay sundalo galing Luzon

    . ANg yabang mga ito para sino na . Feeling hari at dios kuno lalo nakahawak ng mahahaba.  Ang estelo mga ito ay tatakutin ka . Dapat ipagbawal na yang ugali kayumangmang. Papogi at pasikat kaagad kung may baril. Wala palang bayag kung harap harapan kung magbakbakan.  Ipadala yan sa Basilan para makita ang kanilang tapang, walang oras o minuto papatayin kayo doon ng Tausugs, the pride of Basilan.

    • batangpaslit

      alam mo, Bok, nang estudiante ako sa mga huling dekada nang ML, walang sundalo na nanakot sa akin.
      alam nila kung may baril sila, may baril din ako.
      marunong silang magpaputok, marunong din ako—–sharpshooter pa.
      tama sabi mo. pag hawak nila baril ang tapang-tapang ng abusador na pulis at sundalo.

    • banditpogi

      Tama ka diyan brod.  At ang pagkakaalam ko may TOTAL GUN ban noong martial law.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AWVGQCP55LG3USVAXHXXPAO7WE jez

    naka ka depress ang mga news ngayon.terrible.

    • batangpaslit

      malungkot ano ha….nagsisimula pa lang ang ang 2013.
      sino ba ang nagsabi na ang number 13 ay hindi maganda ang signos?
      maraming elevator sa mga tall buildings and hotels na lagpas sa 14 floors, walang number na Floor 13

  • lagotka

    Ang mga negosyante na nagtitinda at gumagawa ng baril ang gustong dumami ng dumami ang mga may baril kasi gusto nila kumita ng malaki. Mga gun stores kahit patay bibgyan ng lisensya nyan basta makabenta lang ng bari at kumita sa processing feel. Ang mga shooting ranges e nagpropromote ng baril para kumita. Ang mga fixers at corrupt sa gobyerno issue ng issue ng lisensya kasi malaki lagay sa kanila. Ang mga pulis halos inutil sa pagppatupad ng batas laban sa baril. ANG TAONG BAYAN ANG PINEPERWISYO AT TINATAKOT NG MGA MY BARIL Madami ang may baril na mayayabang at bully. IPOGBAWAL NA ANG BARIL.  Ito ay ginagawa para pumatay ng tao. THOU SHALT NOT KILL.

    • batangpaslit

      registered and licensed ba ang firearm na ginamit?

    • Komen To

      Gun dealers only sell guns. PNP issues license. Just to correct you

  • kunsabagay

    Loose Firearms, Drug Addiction – two of the Ph biggest problems

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      in addition to Inefficient or lack of law enforcement….

  • jinx

    He had been a known drug addict and drugdealer. He had shot his gun indiscriminately. Why was this “garbage” roaming around freely and not locked up in jail?  He must have been arrested by the police long time ago to avoid this incident, or better yet, salvaged for good.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

    gawing target sa shooting contest si john paul….sya mismo reload ng baril if hindi tumama.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/55XNXOYBNF6BG3EWOM5V4YMWXM Pedro

    NAGDO -DROGA  PALA  YANG  KILLER  NA  YAN !  DROGA  NA  NAMAN ! HINDI   BA  PWEDENG  MAG-IMPOSE  NA  NG  DEATH  PENALTY  SA  MGA  DRUG DEMONS ?  WALA KASING  SOLUTION  ANG  PROBLEMA  NATIN SA DROGA  MALIBAN  SA  PAGBITAY  SA  MGA  DRUG  DEMONS !!   KAWAWA TALAGA  TAYONG  MGA  PILIPINO !  YUNG  MGA  LAWMAKERS  NATIN, SA  HALIP  NA  YANG  DEATH   PENALTY  PARA  SA  MGA HEINOUS CRIMES  AT  DROGA  ANG  PAG USAPAN,  ANG  TINATALAKAY  NGAYON  AY  YUNG  DIVORCE !  WALANG  KA-KWENTA  KWENTA  ANG  PINAG AAKSAYAHAN  NG  ORAS  NG ATING  MGA  MAMBABATAS !

    • Komen To

      You’re right. Pinoy caught drug smuggling in China are meted death penalty. Here, Chinese running Shabu labs (killing all Filipino youth with their Shabu) are flown back to China. Sometimes with a few thousands, they disappear from our prison cells. Is this right?

  • kunsabagay

    Dapat may sustained community outrage against loose firearms. That would be a start because I don’t see gov’t ever solve this huge problem

    • batangpaslit

      Kabayan, mag letter-writing campaign ka sa mga newspapers, sa mga government officials both elected and appointed, at dito sa feedback section mag blog ka palagi.

  • wakats

    The PH population is about 90M of which 50M are adults/adolescence.  The police estimate of 600,000 unlicensed firearms is too small – add a digit and it would be realistic.

    The police force is also too small for a burgeoning population whose take-home pay (due to loans) is not enough for a decent living unless they resort to extra-curricular activities.

    You can’t expect a police private to live honestly if his superiors are living beyond their means.

    • batangpaslit

      malungkot na kasaysayan

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      LOL.. sinabi mo pa…

  • http://Inquirer.net/ AlzheimersC

    The gun used was registered but its renewal was stopped in 2010…

    Kung may patakaran sana ang PNP na habulin or kumpiskahin ang mga baril na paso ang renewal at hindi iyung antayin na lang sa Police stations kung kailan lamang dadalhin ang mga napaso sa pag-renew na mga lisensya ng baril…

    • Barak_O

      malabo

      yong ibang mga may license na baril dinedeklarang stolen yong kanilang baril

      ireport lang sa pulis na nilooban yong bahay nila di na nila kailangan ng license renewal

      • http://Inquirer.net/ AlzheimersC

        Hindi naman siguro lahat e mag-aalibi ng ganyan lalo na kung “ma raid” kaagad at makumpiska ang pasong(lisensya) baril?

        At pwede ring i-suspend indefinitely ang mga nawawalan ng baril kung makakapagpasa ng bagong batas o patakaran ang pagbibigay lisensya….

  • Tausog51

    This bloody incident is another good opportunity for politicians to display their wares. They will act as if they will do something about this problem, they will scold the PNP, They will make press releases, talk about loose guns, calls for investigation and then one month from now , all of these will be gone. Whoever is the best actor among the politicians , we will award them some sort of an OSCAR award. They cannot even go against the PNP officer who issued the firearm permit to the killer.

    • batangpaslit

      abangan…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TVNMH33YWRFMEM7WJGM4V7JFVI buboy

    sana sa Batasan Pambansa nalang siya nag-amok.

    • piskay

      o sana sa congreso

    • batangpaslit

      kayo naman, Buboy….may pinsan ako doon ah na naka upo sa Batasang Pambansa.
      pero hindi sia abusador.
      hehehe…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

      dala dapat iyong M-16…para mas maganda…

  • Komen To

    “600,000 unlicensed firearms in circulation across the country” – maybe 250,000 of them are in Cavite, 300,000 in Mindanao, the rest scattered around. If PNP is serious in getting the loose firearms, they should start in Cavite. Hopefully Sen. Ping can assist them.

    I just cannot imagine a drug addict getting a permit to carry license for an armalite. Now they are surprised

  • http://Inquirer.net/ AlzheimersC

    Kung strict ang patakaran sa renewal (kinukumpisa sa bahay mismo ng mga may-ari kapag paso na ang lisensya)

    Syempre magiging regular din ang drug test at mga psychological evaluation ng nagmamay-ari ng baril…

    Of course iyung mga unlicense e hinuhuli talaga iyan…kung mahuhuli nga lang??? :(

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AUNBI66J3EGEPMV5LFCN53OUGI JEO

    Our country just show us how far and it’s still a very long and hard way for us to become an efficient. the praise “Proud to be Pinoy” is just a mere joke and just remain as a dream.

    Our country lacks the dream, will and action to compete to other countries.. That is why we are hit by different kind of bullies! Very sad but true.

  • batangpaslit

    eh…sila mismo ang nangongotong eh. lookout ang kasmahan nila. ang lungkot

  • Komen To

    PNP should offer a once in a lifetime free registration of all guns, to take effect for 5 yrs. So all guns, original and paltik can be registered for free, with no questions asked. This way, PNP can set up a database. Afterwards, all loose firearms holder should be jailed for life when caught

    • batangpaslit

      Brilliant idea Komen…I trust the legislators have read your proposal

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/74DX67S5U6H557SPUXS5XZ6QJI Alisto Juan

      “all loose firearms holder should be jailed for life when caught”
      Politicians will not make a law that will lead to them. It’s like shooting their own head. . 
      Mahirap yan isabatas dahil sila ang unang tatamaan dyan. . 

  • batangpaslit

    ibig sabihin mapera sia. ang halaga lang ng Cal .45 Pistol ay hindi mumurahin. he can afford to procure it.
    kung hindi licensed ang gamit nia, black market price pa ‘yon.

  • lee1222

    Kawit police chief Jaime Rollon said firearms were common in town.

    “There is a lot of people with guns here.
    There are civilians with guns, even without official permits to carry.
    They can find a way,” Rollon said.

    So what have you been doing about it, Mr. Rollon? You should realize that your indifference is one of the root causes of this tragic shooting. Resign!

    • ApoLapullapu

      The job of the Chief of Police is just to enforce the law.  But the law allows people to carry firearms as long as they have permits to carry.  What can the Chief of Police do?

  • wawa2172

    The death of Nicole and the other kid during the new years eve was already an indicator of how irresponsible gun holders are. House to house search for guns were made and about 200 plus of Nicole’s neighbor were found to have guns. Now, here another pathetic gun holder, former barangay official who shoots his neighbors like chicken, He is drunk and high on drugs and with a  house caretaker who we can assume to be on drugs also helping him to reload the shooters gun. It is difficult for the police to prevent such thing to happen because they only react when crimes or incident is committed. Why can’t they do house to house search and inspection of loose firearms? I guess napakarami na nito, dahil dito lang sa Mindanao may maririnig kang high powered guns being fired during Christmas, new year and end of Ramadan. This incident will happen again dahil hindi naman nabibigyan pansin ang so called “depression” sa bansa. Drug maybe much cheaper than cigarettes right now and it is now readily available mostly in depress areas.

    • ApoLapullapu

      In fact the searches without warrant is unconstitutional. A total gun ban for civilians will stop this. But will Congress pass such a law.

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    LICENSED BY UNG GUN???

    TOTAL GUN BAN NA DAPAT!!!

    LICENSED AND UNLICENSED MUST BE SURRENDERD TO PNP…para naman lahat ng pulis may baril na….

    I WONDER IF THE PRESIDENT WILL ISSUE A TOTAL GUN BAN..HE LOVES GUN SO MUCH…THIS IS A TEST OF POLITICAL WILL AND DAAN MATUWID(KUNO)

    • ApoLapullapu

      The President has political will.  That is why he allows the possession and carrying of guns which he loves doing;.

  • divictes

    I don’t believe that Bae’s neighbors were unaware of his drug habit or his firearms. They just thought or found it convenient to ignore it___ until now. Even the police may be guilty of same attitude.

    • Don Dee

      Well, most people don’t want to get involved and for a good reason. Especially with a  crazy guy like this as your neighbor. Mahirap magsampa ng reklamo at malamang ikaw o pamilya mo ang pagbuntunan ng galit ng sira ulo na ito. Siguro dapat pwedeng, anonymous tips lang, pwede na ma-search ang premises, kung merong illegal firearm discharge.

      • banditpogi

        Dapat kasi mga ganyang tao nginu-nguso sa mga vigilante.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VYWKIEUXXG6BDB2OWQH2CQHO64 jun

    this is a wake call for Aquino Admin. to implement a total ban on fire arms, you never know be it a license gun owner if suffered a depression can create this similar incidence, guns should handled only by the law enforcer and not a civilian. 

    • Mamang Pulis

      o nga!! kapag ang pulis naman ang nag amok katulad ni pulis patola mendoza?yun nan hostage sa luneta??

      anu na ngayun??

      • Don Dee

        Shoot to kill. First open shot available to the sniper should be taken. “Negotiate” only to delay and confuse … but shoot the fcuker at any given opening. Most important, resolve the hostage crisis, as much as possible, before the media comes. Patayin na, wag ng patagalin pa. Pulis, militar, abu sayyaf, common criminal, DOES NOT MATTER.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ETIVE4H6I7ZVBAL72HE3VLGCA4 nicosan

    baket pinatay!!!!!! dapat pinahirapan muna!!!! 

  • pasaway008ako

    Police chief Jaime Rollon said ‘guns are common in town’. So he knows that guns are common in town, so what has he done to control the guns in town? He is a gun owner cuddler. What kind of police chief he is?

    • Don Dee

      Unfortunately you can not search without a warrant. You can not file a case without a complainant. etc. Kahit nga mga checkpoints na lang, under heavy scrutiny ng mga human rights activists. Di ba hanggang ngayon ang tindi ng pagkontra sa checkpoint laban sa riding in tandem even if statistics show that most crimes are done by riding in tandem? Point is, if we want to implement heavy penalties on these fcukers, we must also be willing to lose a few of our liberties. Wag nang masyadong ma-angal kung ma checkpoint (wag lang abusado ang police sa checkpoint).

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5UJ67L2LT2TI46PMH7DR7GSZBQ Ces

    let’s see our President’s take on this….his favorite hobby now our country’s major problem..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/74DX67S5U6H557SPUXS5XZ6QJI Alisto Juan

    “There were another roughly 600,000 unlicensed firearms in circulation across the country, according to the office’s records.”
    That only show the PNP record, how about the loose firearms that are bought illegally, smuggle into the country. My estimate is more than ten millions around the country considering that we had 100 millions population. Politicians owns more than 5 firearms just for their own protection while in Southern Mindanao is an open secret that they have firearms in every household. . another holder is the firearms owned by mining companies. . The government can not control it because their own politician will be the one to be hit. .  

  • $18209031

    .45 ACP ang balang ginamit ni ganggung? Hindi problema yan lalo na sa may kaya . Ang daming mga Fil Ams sa Tate nagpapadala ng US made ammo sa pamagitan ng Balikbayan Boxes. Alam ko ito sa isang kaibigan kung may paryente , sabi pa nya na pinapadalhan sya ng 1000 rd s of 5.56 ammo . Ang ganda ng US made ammo kumpara sa bulok na Armscor . Ang lakas ng palbura. 

    So kung maka afford itong ganggung ng .45 ACP, that means he has the means to buy them, either from factory or reloads. E trace nila kung saan ang source nito. Dios kO porto santoMaria. Nagkalat ang mga baril at bala kasi sa atin.

    • Mamang Pulis

      45 40 38===lahat yan meron dito locally

  • ApoLapullapu

    Until such time that men turn their spears and swords into plowshares there can be no peace on earth.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZS723M7OQL5GJ43IEJMJUDDIY hanep

      Apo….looks like  there’s no chance of that happening.  Now  ,  spears
      and plowshares  have become drones  via  remote  control in Arizona.

      • LAgirl1969

        LOL!!! :)

  • $18209031

    Isang kwento lang ito. Since the Police knew he had unlicensed guns but the fact this ganggung was an ex military , then nobody had  the guts to effect the law even if he was bullying neighbors with his indiscriminate discharge of firearms. Dapat mga ganitong abusado sa batas should be taken right away.The right to bear arms sa Pinas is not a right but a privilege subject to confiscation in light of unsafe handling and endangering lives of innocents and not in the performance of self defense or prevention of a crime.

    Sa Tate naman , it is a right to bear arms sa 2nd Amendment of their constitution.  Iba ang patakaran sa mga puti.

    So again, the Police had records and prior knowledge of him owning guns but hesitant to take him in for indiscriminately discharge in a populated area. What do you expect from a place like this but ugaling barangay. This guy was feeling like a god for owning guns as he was ex military. But with his dopey lifestyle and illegal activity , he was booted out in becoming as a barangay captain. Sampal sa pagkatarantado nya. He felt rejected and anger and hate stayed in him for a very long time. He was addicted to drugs and which led him to commit the unspeakable act of shooting down his neighbors. What a tragedy.

    Dapat ang Police ang mananagut din dito bakit nagpapabaya sila. The man had an unstable past history. He owned guns especially an M16 automatic weapon .Dapat may LEnforcement sa ganitong bagay para madiscipline ang ganitong karantaduhan .

    Hala , mga nasa Senado at Kongresso , panahon na magdebate kayo about new gun laws. Magagaling ang mga law background nyo. Follow what Obama is doing to have sensible gun laws. Confiscate all illegal firearms now. But again i doubt it. Many of these politicians have guns of their own as means of protection and many have stakes in the gun business. Walang mangyayari pa rin.

    • Mamang Pulis

      ‘dre ang cavite –pugad ng mga siga.

      kilala m si lacson?

      pugad ng baril—

      kilala mo si nardong putik?

      • banditpogi

        Walang siga kung lahat nang ordinaryo at mababait na mamamayan e armado.  Tignan mo sa Mindanao, may kidnapping, bombahan, pugutan pero walang siga sa mga kapitbahay.  Mga siga doon nasa bundok nagtatago.

      • Mamang Pulis

        tama ka ‘dre—

        sa amin walang small time na siga.

        dito kapag siga—angkan sa angkan ang magkakalaban….

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/WKX52TQ7KOWPHPPXMGYWTMHLFI Kurt

      Para makasuhan po ang taong ito dapat may mga complainants o witnesses laban sakanya na kayang tumayo sa korte hanggang sa huli. Pero ang mga pinoy naman hanggat di sila ang nabibiktima nagbibingi bingihan na lang, walang pakialam. may report nga na ganito ang taong to pero pano sisimulan ng pulis ang pagsugpo dito kung yung may nakakaalam ay ayaw tumulong.Pano lalakas ang kaso kung walang magrereklamo, hindi po kaya ng pulis lang ang magtrabaho nito. kelangan din ng komunidad na vigilant para masugpo ang mga taong ganito. Wag sa pulis ang lahat isisi

    • banditpogi

      “Dapat mga ganitong abusado sa batas should be taken right away.”  –  Agree ako dito.  But we should not wait for the police to take him out for us.  By the time the police arrives, it is almost always too late.  Armed citizens should sometimes do the dirty work.

  • Mamang Pulis

    Drugs
    talunan
    depressed
    bully
    + baril

    atapang atao

    minsan—meron isang pulis batangas

    na depressed–nan hostage–sa luneta pa.

    pulis

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/WKX52TQ7KOWPHPPXMGYWTMHLFI Kurt

      hahah isa din to… ADIK!!! HAHA

      • Mamang Pulis

        adik saan ‘dre? 

        sa kape?
        sa yosi?
        sa alak?
        sa babae?
        sa pulbura?

  • Mamang Pulis

    yun dumale sa 57 na katao sa ampatuan

    kalahati nun PNP ARMM at local militia…

    paano na kung sila at mga kriminal lang ang may dala?

  • Mamang Pulis

    drugs + alak

    talunan

    iniwan ng asawa

    luge sa negosyo

    sabay may baril.

    naloko na.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZS723M7OQL5GJ43IEJMJUDDIY hanep

    Kung sa  America  may nakakalusot na  mga  buwang  sa background check ,

    dito pa kaya sa Pinas ?  Parang  sa LTC ,  kahit sino  nakakakuha ng  lisensya.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000532465679 Donardo Cuago

    NINONG KA PA MAN DIN!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5BXQPQHMKTOFR5SGW3PE5JFV5U Florita

    I’m just very thankful that we had a peaceful New Year’s celebration here in Davao City. Not even a single sound of a firework had been heard. Bravo to our City Mayor Sarah Duterte and Vice Mayor Rodrigo Duterte and to all the people of the city who possess political will to make Davao City a peaceful place to live. I’m proud to be a resident of this place.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FZ2TOI7KW3YLSXJRUN5V4T4HYQ Juan

    dapat wala ng baril ang mga pnp batuta at posas nalang at yung mga sundalo nalang sa gyera gamitin mga baril 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/WKX52TQ7KOWPHPPXMGYWTMHLFI Kurt

      wow pare.. hithit pa. heavy…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FZ2TOI7KW3YLSXJRUN5V4T4HYQ Juan

    gun ban mga police at civilian mga sundalo sa gyera nalang bigyan ng baril batuta at posas nalang sa mga police…at politiko

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/WKX52TQ7KOWPHPPXMGYWTMHLFI Kurt

      naka drugs ka ba pre? lakas tama mo hahah

  • http://www.facebook.com/jnomer.macalalad J Nomer Macalalad

    Total gun ban na sa civilian populace. Wala na dahilan pa para pag-isipan. Kelan pa tayo kikilos? 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5BXQPQHMKTOFR5SGW3PE5JFV5U Florita

    There are only two essential requirements to make our country a better place to live. We need political will and inner discipline. When people act not because there is a law imposed on them but they are convinced that they have to do an action for common good of the Filipino people.

  • http://twitter.com/r_eyesian ian reyes

    He’s not a member of PNP….tabi-tabi po……I salute those police who responded in the killing field….MABUHAY PNP……yung mga bugok dyan barilin nyo na rin pati yong nasa BABA…..JUAN????????

  • Don Dee

    There are enough good laws in place. The question now is, are we, those who are now shouting for stricter implementation of these gun laws, willing to part with a few of our civil liberties? Random checkpoints. Warrantless searches on these checkpoints, etc. Kung hindi, MEANINGLESS yang mga sentiments nyo. Baka naman puro gunless society gunless society lang ang sigaw nyo pero ma checkpoint lang minsan e sigaw naman ng human rights violation?! You say you are for a gunless society, you also have to be for giving that policy some teeth. It’s that simple.

  • TGM _ERICK

    Gun ban is a necessity for those who are reported to be quick tempered and those who are insane and psychologically incapacitated. Besides, everybody is prohibited to carry fire arms outside the homes or places  of work. Then later a total gun ban should be instituted if we have collected all licensed and loose fire arms.  

    • where_I_stand

      To: TGM_ERICK
       
      a million likes

  • Jack Phalaphitac

    He was a known drug dealer, a drug user, a drunkard, a neighborhood bully who fires his gun at the slightest provocation. Clearly a nut case and no one lifted a finger to send him to jail, and this happened. 

    They didn’t respect the law, no law should respect them too. Too late to salvage this a**hole. 
    Do it to the reloader instead.

    • banditpogi

      Good suggestion. The SOB should have been neutralized when he started bullying his neighbors.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/W3DXKMSGKE7ISL7IURZ66AORNE mark anthony

    Dapat wala nang baril mga Civilian… Hindi nila kailangan yun… Congress dapat gumawa kayo ng Bill para hindi dito hindi yung kung ano anong bill na makakasira ng isang pamilya…

  • i_am_filipino

    Include a very tough preliminary and final psychological or psychometric exam designed for crisis as a new pre requisite before they can own a gun. Gun stores must verify this exams from the hospitals to see whether they are genuine or not. If it fails to do so, then confiscate the guns from the stores.

  • $18209031

    Kaya nga ang tawag nila , Its more fun and sadness in the Philippines.  Kung ang Tsina kumupya ng produckto sa tate, ang Pinas din ay gumagaya sa anong gawang Puti.

    Another was the Hurricane that hit New Jersey and NY. Then we had our own superstorm hitting Davao Oriental and Comval. The fate of USA and Pinas are made in one , married in perpetual harmony.

    What happened at Sandy Hook in Dec 14 , we have our own version of Sandy Hook in  Kawit, Cavite in Jan 4, 2013.

  • $16638896

    kaya dapat salvage na agad yang mga drug pushers at syndicates na yan, isang malaking factor ang drugs kaya nasisiraan ng ulo ang mga hinayupak na gun owners na may tendency madepressed.

  • gilbs72

    I think few Filipinos are ready even to be licensed gun owners. For sure there are some who are, but far fewer than the current number. Some years ago the PROGUN and PPSA stickers became the rage because people used them as “badges” to bully other motorists. Even police paraphernalia like uniform jackets, caps and ID are abused. Guns pa kaya.

    See, the Nicole incident uncovered a LICENSED owner discharging his firearm on new years day, so apparently even supposedly “trained” ex-soldiers are not ready. And this guy Bae is actually LICENSED to own an M16 rifle. Yet, is known as “a neighborhood bully who fired his gun at the slightest provocation.”

    Sadly, kelangan muna may mamatay para gumalaw ang gobyerno natin. Yung mga nag-i-issue ng licenses kasi parang walang accountability sa mga nangyayari. So basta may contact ang gun store, sige approve ng approve. Secure naman ang trabaho nila.

  • $18209031

    Kailangan shotgun at handguns lang sa civilians. M 16 s do not belong to private citizens but only for the military .

  • $18209031

    Importante dyan, zero sum tolerance in gun ownership. If one has committed the slightest acts of unsafe gun practices and  not in accordance to the  protection of lives  and limbs, then one’s privilege to own a firearm is immediately  revoked. Period. He has to undergo physical  ,  psychological and emotional tests to see if he is fit to own a gun.  

    • mg_harrier

      add drug test as one of the pre-requisite in owning a gun.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XKJOFX5OP2765EGTA6CXLUSQZM Run High

    May these serve as trigger events to open a window for better gun-related policies.  Maraming buhay na ang nasakripisyo.  Stop the senseless killings of innocents!

    And this Bae, being a bully and a trigger happy, clearly has shown the high probability of being violent.  May accountability ang authorities dito.  Imbistigahan din at pananagutin ang mga nagpabayang opisyal ng barangay at lokal na kapulisan.

  • $18209031

    Everyone knows this guy was a druggie, deals in drugs, discharges his firearms indiscriminately when mad, and emotionally unstable . THe locals in his community had known this without a doubt, ugaling pinoy pa ay mahilig sa chismis. And since this ganggung ay may baril so takut ang mga tao sa kanya. Maybe the people around just shut their mouths like good neighbors do.

     Everyone knew this dead SOB. I m sure they hated him around. The reason why he lashed back at his neighbors in his final act of vengence showed deep seated anger. He must had held deep hatred in his heart towards them for something we dont know the exact details.

    The community and cops at large were partly to be blamed. They should had insisted to the cops, Bae needs to be arrested and his guns confiscated.  He was  a timebomb waiting to explode and he did.  The telltale signs were already there years ago . Dios Ko Por Santo !!

  • http://twitter.com/Olibo2 Olibo

    Philippines needs stricter gun laws.Gun ownership must require psycho test, NBI/Police clearance. Unfinancial people, and applicants with issues like domestic violence or a threat to a neighbourhood or to any person should be restricted in owning a gun. I owned a licensed firearm but when I discovered my attitude changed, I gave it up and bought a circular saw instead.

  • $18209031

    Those unfit to own guns bec of overactive and uncontrollable anger are not fit to won a gun. Might as well practice the martial arts of arnis and knife works. If you are physically unfit to do so, then practice the art of prayer to Santo Calungsod . Just like the saying, Put on the full armor of God and the Holy SPirit, and He will protect you in times of trouble. Trust in him and he will deliver you from the hands of evil men.

  • SG0609

    Mga kababayan, huwag kayong matakot sa adik at lasenggo, may baril man o wala pulis man o pulitiko, mayaman man o mahirap ireklamo ninyo agad sainyong barangay o sa pulis o sa media…tapos na ang panahon ng pagsasawalang kibo…magkaisa tayo bilang isang komunidad na sumusunod sa batas…yon lamang po.

  • $18209031

    Ang daming okasyon na naghuhurementado kahit noon pa. Karamihan noon ay active military during Marcos time. Lasinggong mga abusadong ganggung. Some of them suffered from PTSDs  from combat ops in Mindanao. Many used their automatic rifles to shoot other soldiers as they went amok or had disagreements.

    They even used hand grenades , and yes, i was a kid at the time when one PC trooper went heywire . He went on a rampage shooting his M 16 and throwing handgrenades  . It was chaotic gun battle as underarmed cops tried to stop him . He killed many people and finally run out of bullets. He was killed afterwards. 
    Many many incidents  which showed human failures in normal way of thnking and behavior. Why? SO many factors to consider.This is all part of our human existence just like we have wars and rumor s of wars. Human conflict is constant since the dawn of man. Ganon ang tao at mundo , may gulo palagi.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SYG36KOOLRY47VA3ICPJJ5CQTQ ADD

    Kung may addict o siga sa inyong lugar, ipagbigay alam agad sa media, kasi darating ang panahon na kayo nman ang gagambalain o patayin nila. Kung malakas kayo mag dota o mag FB, lakasan nyo na rin ung loob nyo na magsumbong sa media ng tumino ang bayang Pilipinas

    • banditpogi

      Saka na lang tawagin ang media kapag naitumba na yung siga!!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

         itumba lahat ng siga at drug users-pushers, etc.

    • kalikasanipagtanggol

       paano kung may proteksyon kay bosing na pulis at barangay? paano kung talamak na ang droga sa lugar? karaniwan naman ay talamak na nga sa lugar at ang problema pa ay ang mga pulis na dapat manghuhuli ay nanghuhulidap lang………nung panahon ng sparrow may tinumba sila barangay captain na drug lord sa lugar, parang mga daga ang mga pushers at adik na nagsilikas……

  • pasmado 75

    parang engs lang yung nagsa-suggest ng total gun ban.

    pag ipina-surrender ang lahat ng licensed na baril wala nang baril ang mga responsible gun owners since sila lang naman ang naka-register.

    kapag naisakatuparan ang total gun ban ang mga kriminal na wala namang respeto sa batas eh siguradong hindi magsosoli ng baril.

    lubusan nang mawawalan ng kakayahang magtanggol sa sarili ang mga responsableng mamamayang kaya naman sanang mag-handle/mag-may-ari ng baril.

    mas mabuti pa stricter regulation sa license applications kaysa naman sa total gun ban.

    • banditpogi

      Tumpak ka diyan brod.  Hindi kasi nila pinagiisipang mabuti.  Kumbaga parang knee-jerk reaction lang yung sa kanila.  Kung ano una pumasok sa isip nila yon ang gustong ipa implement.

      Hindi nila pinag iisipan kung effective ba yun suggestion nila at kung papaano magiging effective at ano-ano yung ibang consequence.

    • kalikasanipagtanggol

       Tama ka diyan! sino ba kriminal ang sumusunod sa batas di ba wala? kaya nga kriminal…..hindi ko iaasa sa kapitbahay o pulis ang kaligtasan ng pamilya ko sa labas man o loob ng bahay….kung ang pulis ay darating in 2 mins. gaya ng sabi ni gen. espina ay baka makatulong pa, pero kung patay na lahat at saka pa lang darating, makikipagsabayan na ako sa kanya o unahan ko pa ng putok ang mga kriminal…..tamang training at practice sa target shooting ay mapapalaban na ang mga kriminal…….hanggat marami ang masasamang loob na may armas, hindi ligtas ang bawat isa at kung gusto nila ng walang baril eh di huwag sila bumili karapatan naman nila yun at hindi sila pinipilit na humawak pero huwag nila tanggalan ng karapatan ang iba na bumili……..maraming paraan para makapaminsala ng kapuwa tulad ng bomba, may batas naman na bawal pero bakit ginagamit pa din makapaminsala……

  • http://www.facebook.com/tho.buisan Tho Buisan

    Sana pinakita nalang nya katapangan nya laban sa mga Abu Sayaf. At least, dun mapagbigyan ang trip nyang mamaril ng tao, kung may tatamaan siya?. Pero baka hindi siya tatagal dun, babahag ang buntot nya sa takot….At ang ginawa nyang pagbaril sa mga walang kalaban-laban mga paslit ay tanda ng kaduwagan at kasiraan ng ulo…

    • Katagalugan

      Ang taong sabog at sira ang ulo ay walang kinakatakutan kahit nasa
      Basilan pa yan o nasa Mexico pa yan, walang pinipili ang demonyo.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4QAIR53YIPJLMPSQJZTOJIGBVI Jaz

     

    ‘My ninong shot me”
     – Tsk, tsk, tsk! Delikadong ninong ‘to bala ipinang-aaginaldo sa inaanak imbes na regalo o pera.Buti na lang dedo na.

    • boymanok

       oo nga….baka marami pang ma-aginaldohan sa susunod na pasko kung buhay pa yan

  • angelo castro

    Focus on policy, not on PNoy’s guns, Palace says-PDI bakit ayaw nyong ibalita ang mga makakasira kay PNOY! Bayaran Talaga kayo!

  • bugoybanggers

    Tama nga naman, ang makakapigil sa taong may baril ay ang taong may baril din! Iyan ang dahilan bakit may isang tao ang pasiga-siga sa isang bayan KASI alam niya siya lang ang kargado. Ang solution? Alam na ninyo, hindi na dapat pag debatehan pa.

    • kalikasanipagtanggol

       Switzerland at israel ang bawat bahay may baril at sila lang dalawang bansa ang halos pinakamaliit at kaliit liitan krimen………kung baril ang dahilan dapat wala ng matira sa switzerland at israel, di ba?

      • $18209031

        ANg ugaling Kayumangmang with guns is just pure pasikat and will end in maghuhurementado.  Noon pa nga nagsaksakan mga ito gamit ang kuchilyo,  pagpapalitan mo lang yan ng baril patay ang taong bayan.

  • tikboy50

    It is high time that our government to launch a public campaign regarding “basic detection of behavioral abnormality of persons around us specially gun owners”. Mr. Bae has been displaying signs of depressions…vengeance from election loss…drug and alcohol abuse and yet his companion John Paul did not bother to report to police such scenario since he (John Paul) obviously has no idea on some signs of dangerous behavior of Mr. Bae more specially that he is a long time gun owner and a known neighborhood bully. Any barangay in the country can experience the same thing @ Brgy. Tabon 1, Kawit, Cavite if nobody cares starting today.

  • tikboy50

    The general public is usually adamant in reporting violent behavior of gun owners for fear of reprisals from the suspect and partly because the police oftentimes cannot hide the identity of the informant due to incompetency. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    NAG BIBIGAY DIN PALA ANG PULISYA NG BARIL SA BALIW!! DI NILA TINITINGNAN ANG RECORD NUNG TAO BAKA MARAMI SILANG NA ISYU NA LICENYA BAKA BALIW DIN TULAD NIYAN!!! MAY MGA KASO NA PALA YAN NAKAKAKUWA PARIN NG BARIL ONLI IN THE PHILIPPINES!!

    • http://Inquirer.net/ AlzheimersC

      May renewal nga ang lisensya pero kapag hindi nagkusa ang nagmamay-ari ng baril wala ring ginagawa ang pulis para marecover ang nasabing baril.

  • Borogol

    marami talagang tarantado dito sa cavite, kahit ung kilala natin na nasa gobyerno na tubong cavite, tarantado rin

    • kalikasanipagtanggol

       Hindi ba mga taga cavite din ang pumatay sa magkapatid na bonifacio at kay gen, antonio luna na mga taga kawit?…..hindi naman nakakapagtaka, di ba?

      • batangpaslit

        you are a historian, eh

  • EdsonArantesDoNascimiento

    Burn in hell you SOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Ros Feliciano

    Would anyone believe that the Police Chief himself admits that firearms are common in town and yet he has enormous power to enforce the law against those people with firearms. So, what is the use of having law enforcement people in our community?

  • California13

    “a family problem drove him to go on a killing spree”. Please enough of this nonsense already. His drug-induced psychosis is what led to this.Put the blame where it belongs

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JN4J26VGRK2JMS53BS3AJFUQTI Martin C

      Agreed

  • boymanok

    siguro si ronald llamas ang idol nitong addict na killer na to …its more fun in cavite

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KDW7OIKNWM6CIGBAMRC7G7PDE4 Goyong

    Kawit police chief Jaime Rollon said firearms were common in town.
    “There is a lot of people with guns here. There are civilians with guns, even without official permits to carry. They can find a way,” Rollon said.
    What do you make of your statement, Chief? Don’t you see that as a flashpoint already? Something that can dangerously explode anytime? Ain’t it your team’s job to do something ’bout those guns? You are deputized by the community, Of course, pls do something out there. Lead and device a course of action. The peaceful citizenry will be behind you. We need concrete results Chief. 
    How about you Gov? Are we always reactive rather than proactive? Only quick at providing the cure instead of working on the prevention?
    As in the words of Edmund Burke: ” For evil to triumph, it takes only good men to do nothing”

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JN4J26VGRK2JMS53BS3AJFUQTI Martin C

      Kawit police chief Jaime Rollon said firearms were common in town “There is a lot of people with guns here. There are civilians with guns, even without official permits to carry. They can find a way,” Rollon said.
      Why is this man still in a job? Its his job to ensure these guns are off the streets instead of turning a blind eye then making a statement like this.
      He should be fired immediatley.!!

  • virgoyap

    This is another senseless and unreasonable death that took away several lives including innocent children. It’s a grieve injustice where the sudden death of the culprit will make the cry for justice  vain and empty. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UW2U5GS3TZRH44KE5GQRARFJ24 angeles

    Apathy of the government to solve the drug problem will lead to more gruesome crimes. That includes unconcerned citizens. Where there is drugs proliferating in a baranggay, the chairman knows. Either he’s got no balls to go against the drug syndicate or he’s part of it making money. That includes kagawads and sometimes the town executive. Pnoy wake up! 

    • batangpaslit

      tumpak

  • Bayan Panona

    “Nicole’s death triggered outrage and condemnation of poor law enforcement that allows hundreds of thousands of unregistered firearms to be on the streets.”- Law enforcement is only as good as the LAWS being enforced. Paano magkakapangil ang tagapagpatupad ng batas kung ang batas mismo walang pangil? The article sucks! The problem isn’t in the PNP or any Gov’t agencies. The problem is the people. We become somewhat tolerant to violence, neglectful of other people, and unconcerned with our personal security. And then what, we blame the Gov’t, the PNP for every crime that has is happening around us. Maybe this is the time that we ask ourselves what we can do for our respective communities and stop reading opinion-based articles such as this.

    • Magsasaka

       crime perpetuates because crime stoppers if not protectors are not doing their job that is the logic.

      • batangpaslit

        you said it

    • batangpaslit

      Tsong, bakit mo sisihin ang mga helpless neighbors ng napatay na mga bata?
      Kung nandoon ka sa scene, kaya mong harapin ang Cal .45 Pistol ni Bae at agawin sa kanya ang baril?
      It is sickening that you are blaming the victims.
      Gauge from your statement, it exposes your ignorance that you do not know the mandate of the police and the function of the government. 

      • Bayan Panona

        and you know their mandate? i wasn’t blaming those victims. I was talking in general. Besides, kilalang pusher sa lugar yung suspect,bakit walang nagsusumbong sa pulis? And kelan ba naman may nangyaring krimen na hindi nasisi ang pulis or government?poor comprehension.

      • batangpaslit

        Tsong, not “poor comprehension”
        Your original presentation is poor and incomplete, hence, the manner of feedback you got.
        Why talk in generic terms when we are discussing specific issues?
        The mandate of the police is given and known. Diba, naka paskil pa sa gate ng Camp Crame?

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/zbBLkTt9xOJmjmBTp0xdKSudonXJb1xTB_MIBjk-#e38af F alonso

    Sana dinisarmahan agad ng mga policemen bago pa man magwala ang animal na yan.

    • Magsasaka

       eh di ba inireport na iyan noong bagong taon dahil sa indiscriminate firing pero ang sabi ng mga bopols na pulis hindi nila inaresto dahil wala naman daw tinutukan, mga bopols na pulis ang dahilan kaya nangyayari ang mga ganyang krimen

      • batangpaslit

        suspend those policemen and demote them from the ranks, or, dismiss them for incompetence and cowardice

      • Bayan Panona

        Uhm have you heard about due process? masyado kang mapanghusga. ano tingin mo sa mga pulis, superman?

      • batangpaslit

        Tsong, siempre merong inbestigasyon before the imposition of a disciplinary action that warrants appropriate recommendations.
        Thos who are neligent would be dismissed, those who are true to their sworn duty, would be promoted and rewarded.
        If I were the Recruiting Officer of the police force, I will not hire an applicant who is not endued with modicum of courage to engage in gunfight.
        I hire people to work for me. If my project is to build row of houses, i will hire structural engineers and carpenters.
        But if i am going to form a team to run after criminal elements, I would hire applicants who have the aptitude of a warrior.

      • Bayan Panona

        Well, even the PNP mission says “to enforce the law… WITH THE ACTIVE SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY”. Therefor, PNP is not an organization of warriors to win wars but peacekeepers to win peace.

  • tata_boy

    ibalik na ang death penalty sa mga karumaldumal na krimen.

  • AJ Giorgio

    Either total gun ban or legalize carrying of guns..

    kahit sinong sira ulo na may baril, kung alam nyang may baril din ang lahat ng tao sa paligid nya, tingin ko mag dadalawang isip bago gumawa ng krimen..

    • batangpaslit

      agree…kahit ang aso, kung nakita nila na hindi takot ang taong tinatakot nila, umuurong din.
      gun control, yes.
      but not total gun ban dahil ang kriminal hindi naman sumusunod ng batas

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TJONDT3XNXZ5S5MPIKWMOCMEIM Lian j

    Dapat pangunahan  ng  barangay   ang   kampanya laban sa pusher at siga  . Kilala ng mga Barangay Council  kung sino ang mga siga , addict at pusher sa lugar nila. Kaya lang takot din ang mga nasa  barangay  baka balikan sila . Kaya para may may magawa lang silang maganda sa barangay  mag ki cleanliness at beautifacation project na lang sila  at sports . YUN LANG.

  • gajeelredfox

    I’m a pro gun because for sports and gun as equilizer to criminals who try to rob/kill me and my family. (i’m not confident that our PNP will be in time if criminals are in my door steps) Guns don’t just kill people, people kill people. I think the root cause of the tragedy is the use of prohibitted drugs. Drug addicts are disaster waiting to happen, the community may have prevented it by alarming the officials that cetain person is using prohibited drugs. Our community is lacking  vigilance. I hope this is our lessons to ourselves, as a community, that we need to vigilant in out environment. Drugs are still menace to our society.Dont just blame the gun. If we need to have a stricter gun ownership so let it be.

    • batangpaslit

      Dennis, I fully concur with with your wise point of view.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H4PIIBVQK4BSXMIKFRWWAAQAUY Heartrob ng Pugad Baboy

    Guns don’t kill people.  Bad people with Guns, kill people.  

  • http://twitter.com/esinadB Esinad Bautista

    I don’t gun could be given to someone who does not have the authority. Some people should put in mind the danger they’re about to face when they held the gun. I know gun is an evil tool.

  • http://twitter.com/esinadB Esinad Bautista

    poor child

  • Mamang Pulis

    ngayun ko lang na realized–hawig ng bwa ka ng inang to si andal ampatuan

  • Mikay Canoy

    kakaiyak nmn basahin nang news na to..kawawa nmn yung buntis.condolence sa lahat nang nawalan and to those wounded get well soon

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