Suck it up, whiners in uniform told


Sen. Gregorio Honasan: Shut up INQUIRER FILE PHOTO

MANILA, Philippines—“Suck it up and shut up.”

This was the advice that Sen. Gregorio Honasan would give police and military officials who grumble about being ignored by President Aquino who has a penchant for filling up the top security posts with officers who served in the Presidential Security Group during the presidency of his mother, the late Cory Aquino.

Honasan said there was no reason for some of his fellow graduates from the Philippine Military Academy to complain about being ignored or passed over for the juicier military and police posts.

“These posts are a position of trust and confidence and it is the President’s prerogative to appoint those he wants around him with just the basic requirement of competence and integrity,” the senator said in a phone interview.

Newly appoined police chief Alan Purisima is the third member of the first Cory-era PSG to lead this administration’s security team. The first two are Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin and Armed Forces Chief Jessie Dellosa. Another PSG officer during the Cory era, retired general Jose Honrado, now serves as general manager of the Manila International Airport Authority.

Honasan said that if any officer feels slighted by, or disagrees with, the President’s choices, he should take it up personally with the Chief Executive.

Most approachable

“Our President is the most approachable among all leaders we’ve had. There is practically no cordon sanitaire surrounding him and soldiers and officers with legitimate gripes talk to him,” said Honasan.

Honasan, who led a number of bloody coups d’etat against the Cory Aquino administration, said that “gone were the days” when young officers were burdened with fighting rebels on the ground and while their officers were busy waiting for their turn to be the next leader of the military due to seniority.

“I think there are still officers who act like `idealists and seguristas’ who turn a blind eye to military reforms to protect their way up to the top,” he said.

“At this point, anybody complaining about the President’s choices should just suck it up and live with the President’s choices. They have a duty to perform with no need for more distraction like whining and complaining,” said Honasan.

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  • AllinLawisFair

    For once, Senator Honasan has said one of the most sensible opinions  one can say about the relationship between the Commander-in-Chief and the officers and officials of the military and the police.

    As an “experienced,” putschist he is the best qualified to talk about the issue.

    As Commander-in-Chief it is the President’s prerogative to appoint the persons he can trust.

    • batangpaslit

      tumpak! tama! husto!

      • AllinLawisFair

        Salamat batangpaslit, sa inyong mature na paninindigan.

        2012/12/27 Disqus

      • makabayanofw

        ganyan din opinyon ko..Happy New Year!

  • arao_liwanag

    Sinabi nya lang yan dahil setting pretty na siya. Ang Practice ni Noynoy ay extreme favoritism. Can you imagine all appointment to a choice cut position coming from his mother favorite group, Malakanyang Gaurd/ Presidential Security Group or command whatever you call it. All the others has to endure playing as the bad guy in the anti insurgency drive, being the tools of the mining company. soldiers of the oppressors,  private army of the despot and the capitalist. errand soldiers of the Kano. enemy of the masses, violators of human rights. Shut up Gringo.

    • batangpaslit

      hala….away na

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VDMUJ6NKKCLWRMVMJRLJFI633I Rene V

       hahaha. hopefully your close in people and the communist party would treat you right.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/M3LQ4MUAU3Z36MIQGIGSOKBCQE Rosauro

    This happens at all levels of command in the military and in the government’s civilian agencies. Pasuertesuerte lang. Forget performance as basis for getting a juicy post.

    • batangpaslit

      Ross, kung pareho lang ang qualitifications, I’ll go for someone whom I know.
      Equally competent nga ang isa….eh, diko naman “kilala” ang ugali o ang loyalty nia?
      Bakit ko sia kukunin?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PM6JHCFR2KT2AURMWRDUXBNLQY Darwin

        So what would be the point of professional using the military if political patronage is a premium over record? Do you advocate junior officers playing politics and copying up to rising politicians so that when those people will become president, they will be chosen over their colleagues?

      • batangpaslit

        Darwin, read again my repartee to Ross.
        Let me rephrase my post.
        If you are the decision maker and the assignment to be filled up is a position of trust, and in your hands you have three or five applicants who are equally competent, whom are you going to chose?
        A complete stranger?
        the one that you have already tested and proven his or her loyalty?

        The Commander-In-Chief could reach deep from his resources.  You do not shackle the CIC because of ranks, or seniority.
        A one star general who can outsmart his senior two or three star generals is an excellent choice than older foggies but stagnant and indolent in their performance.
        Look at the case of General Eisenhower.
        How many senior field grade generals he outranked when the U.S. President appointed him as the Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, while his former Boss, General McArthur, already a five general, is his counterpart in the Far East?
        Dwight was the lowest ranking Brigadier General in the Staff Command of General Marshall.
        But since it was Dwight who proposed the idea to form a unified command how to outflank the Axis Forces, he was promoted over the other senior generals to command the Allied Forces since the concept is his brilliant idea.
        Competence and “whom you know” is not at all bad.
        Competent nga ang isa, pero kung matraidor ka naman, paano? Dikit nga ang isa, pero, kung bobo naman, paano?
        So, if am the CIC, my selection criteria, is twofold:
        Competent na, kilala ko pa. There is nothing wrong to recognize and award loyalty.

      • Facilitator1

        Well said Kabayan. If they (pundits/detractors) are still questioning the prerogative of the President to appoint anyone in a position of trust and confidence, it’s either they’re incapable of reasoning/logic or they incorrigibly refuses to hear the message. Either case, it’s them who are found wanting and KUDOS to you and the like-minded…Have a safe, prosperous New Year…

  • batangpaslit

    right on, Greg!

  • johndcross1

    Senator Honasan for once you exceeded my expectation of you.  You said exactly the truth!

    • batangpaslit

      nag mellow na rin siempre ang tao…he’s got a broader perspective na eh now that he is an elected Senator of the Philippines

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PM6JHCFR2KT2AURMWRDUXBNLQY Darwin

    Sure. Why bother professionalizing the military? Palakasan na lang. Like Marcos, Pnoy needs his general Ver.

    • batangpaslit

      Darwin, hindi mo mawala yan ang personal preferences pag ang assignment ay delikado.
      Kaya sa mga appointment tulad nito, the position is co-terminus with the appointing official.
      It does not follow, dahil hindi kilala ang kandidato ng appointing officer, eh, the latter would perform well and remain loyal to the chap who appointed him or her.
      It is assumed, when the contenders reached a certain rank, they have the core competence to carry out the job.
      But, it is the privilege or prerogative whom to appoint.
      You can question that authority and power, but you cannot take that away from the appointing officer if he or she exercises his or her ability to reach deep from his pool of resources.

  • arao_liwanag

    Dapat may board na mag rerecomend katulad ng Judicial Bar Council, hindi yong, kung hindi kaeskwela o shooting buddy, ay kamaganak o kakilala, o galing sa groupo ni Gasmin na inanak sa kasal ng kanyang magulang at kanyang  kinakapatid. Hala mga sundalo masipagsipsip na rin kayo kay Gasmin. Ang mga Ilokano ay wala ng tsansa sa admin ni Noynoy. mga pamain na lang kayo. Awanin. Sabi nga Joseph Babaero: weather weather lang yan.

    • batangpaslit

      Bro, merong Board of Generals that recommends whom to be promoted to the position of general.
      Pero kung pareho nang rank nang contenders ay general, papasok na ang personal preferences dian.
      Did you run a Human Resource Department or have you manage recruitment processes?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VDMUJ6NKKCLWRMVMJRLJFI633I Rene V

         this arawliwanag character does not know anything because he was living in the mountains all the time. actually npa iyan kaya di dapat pansinin.

      • arao_liwanag

        You have a point but the record speak for itself. Patronage is a culture so deeply ingrained. Ito si Rene V(illain), ito ang mga katulad nito ang mga ipa sa lahing Pilipino. Mas marangal pa nga siguro ang NPA kaysa sayo dahil nakikipagusap ang govierno, ibig sabihin, may kabuluhan kausapin.

    • Facilitator1

      Kabayan, may tanong ako sa “logic” ng comment mo. Kung ikaw ang presidente ng PINAS, kukuha ka ba ng isang tao na very and extremely job qualified pero questionable ang loyalty/integrity (para sa iyo) o isang tao na alam mo na qualified rin (pero hindi kasing dunong ng nauna) pero pasado sa iyo ang kanyang integridad at alam mo na ipaglalaban nya ang iyong principle/objective kahit ikamatay/ikakukulong nito?

      IMHO: Kahit si GMA was perceived corrupt and dishonest, you must give her a credit na TOTALLY and ABSOLUTELY LOYAL ang kanyang mga cabinet members to include ang mga hinirang niyang mga Chiefs sa AFP at PNP, mga SC Justices, Department heads ng mga GOCCs, atbp. Walang nagsasalita o nagtataksil sa kanila. Is that good for the country? But, it’s definitely good for GMA…PEACE…

      • arao_liwanag

        Puro misplace ang inyong mga  values o wala kayong naiintiendihan sa values. Ang loyalty ay sa bansa at sa badila hindi sa individual. Mga corrupt ang culture n’yo.

        Halimbawa, sa US bagamat ang Secretary of Justice ay appointed ng Presidente na ang titulo ay Atty. General, Kung ang Presidente ay may nagawang paglabag sa batas o krimen with the full knowledge of the Attorney general, Kasama ang ang dalawang testigos dapat ng arestohin nya ang Presidente. Ito ay premise sa: a

      • Facilitator1

        Values? Parang lumiko sa ibang DAAN ang sagot mo at nag-iba ang TOPIC.

        Ulitin ko ang TOPIC (story line): It’s the prerogative of the president to appoint someone or anyone to any posts who enjoys his/her trust and confidence. Ito ang MAIN TOPIC na sinabi ni Sen Honasan at hindi ang VALUES na sinasabi mo…(sa school tawag dito ay READING COMPREHENSION).

        Although, the president appoints the candidates, Juan dela Cruz (the citizenry) expects that the candidate to be a person of proven competence, integrity, probity, and independence–similar to the Supreme Court job requirement.

        Furthermore, Juan dela Cruz expects all department heads either military or civilian to be loyal only to the republic and not to the person who appointed them. Unfortunately, GMA’s appointees are perceived to be DOGGEDLY LOYAL to her instead to our country. Baka doon ka galit at ang dahilan kaya ikaw ay nalilito…PEACE…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/M3LQ4MUAU3Z36MIQGIGSOKBCQE Rosauro

    They castigated Marcos when during his time did the same. It was for this reason that the Reform the Armed Forces Movement ( RAM) was created by Honasan et al. Non- PMA’ers were chosen to top positions in the military because Marcos trusted them.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VDMUJ6NKKCLWRMVMJRLJFI633I Rene V

       you said it right!

  • boybakal

    Suck it up, whiners in uniform told…Good advice to Whiners from Coup plotters.

  • NAP67

    You can’t compare what Marcos did to what PNOY did. All in all, there were seven coup attempts during Cory Aquino’s presidency and it took only one coup attempt to topple the Marcos administration. So those soldiers and officers who stood behind his mother during those difficult times of the Cory Aquino administration deserve the trust and confidence of the son. Why is Sen. Honasan now supportive of the Aquino administration? During the campaign for the 2007 Senatorial election, Aquino reached out to his former enemy, Senator Gregorio Honasan, supporting his application for bail. Aquino told Job Tabada of Cebu Daily News, on March 5, 2007;”I endorse Honasan’s request for bail para parehas ang laban [to even out the playing field]. I was hit by bullets from Honasan’s men in the neck and hips but that’s past now. The principle of my father was, ‘Respect the rights even of your enemies.’ Ito ang nagpatingkad ng demokrasya [This is what defines democracy]. Genuine reconciliation is democracy in action.”  Bear in mind that in Aug. 1987, during an attempted military coup when his mother was in office, Aquino was shot by rogue soldiers outside the Malacañang Palace in Manila. Three of his bodyguards were killed and he sustained five bullet wounds. One bullet is still embedded in his neck. This is one of the reasons why I admire PNOY, after all those things that Honasan did, attempt on his life and that of his mother, making her life miserable during her presidency…. I would have find a way to get even with him, if I were in his shoes. The RH Bill being supported by 2 critics of the Aquino administration like Cong. Lagman and Sen. Santiago….and we all know what happen next…..

    • basilionisisa

      this is news to me, like it. thanks for sharing.

    • makabayanofw

      di alam ng marami ang mga pangyayaring yan s buhay n pnoy..kaya marahil mga taong kilala at pinagkakatiwalaan lng nya ang nsa inner circle dahil nadarama nya tuwina ang balang nkabaon s kanyang leeg at mga pilat s katawan? isipin p un trauma n pinapuputukan k at ikasasawi ng mga taong nsa paligid mo?

  • koolkid_inthehouse

    PMA grads are the most corrupt.

    • GustoKoHappyKa

      Si GMA may kasalanan dyan  :)

  • Practicalandconcerned

    As the dude said they are appointed positions…his choice, part of his prerogative being the big boss for now…Positions like those exist in every country and not all will have the chance.

  • prodigalson60

    the best advice ever i’ve heard from sen. honasan given to grumbling military and police officials. he could have ended in a situation like what sen. lacson experienced if Pnoy is vendictive like GMA! HAPPY NEW YEAR, GUYS!

    • basilionisisa

       true, indeed!

  • AnastacioMamaril


  • basilionisisa

    How nice of Sen Honasan to endorse the President’s choices in his unique but honest way! As a PMA graduate and a patriotic soldier himself, he has an inside knowledge of the culture in the AFP and how the senior officers must feel. Good on him for trying to appease disgruntled officers expecting promotions. Shows how he has matured and learned in his long years of public service.

  • Philcruz

    I agree. Very sensible. No country’s President ever picks people to head his security group with a man he is not familiar and secure with. That is why the group is called a security group. Elementary, my dear Watson.


    In other words, weather weather lang yan. 

    So Gringo, inamin mo na mali ka sa pag coup plot before!

  • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

    “These posts are a position of trust and confidence and it is the President’s prerogative to appoint those he wants around him with just the basic requirement of competence and integrity,” the senator said in a phone interview. 

    Pero, hindi ba yan ang nangyari nuong panahon ni Pres. Marcos?

    Ang mga taong malalapit lang sa kanya ang nakakuha ng sweet posts, schooling, advancement at, ir-retireable?

    At hindi ba ang presidente mismo ang nag sabi na based on merit ang promotion, lalo na sa DFA’s posts where career ministers get to have more share than appointed ones? Are we suddenly back tracking back to the olden days where it is who you know, not how you have worked?

    Tila yata pa baliktad ang lakad natin, having learned our lesson before, then all of a sudden going back to something we know would bite us in the butt.

  • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

    At hindi ba ikaw din, gringo, nung nawala sa limelight after the edsa revolution… were you able to suck it up, and shut up….o did you launch a series of coup de tat because you yourself were not satisfied.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GYYFBINDMTZHM6TDHPB667452M agustin

    Palakasan system is affecting demoralization with in the organization, imagine your junior officer in a sudden twist become your superior. who in his normal mind would be glad about this. Aquino is not following the seniority and merit promotion,he did to Supreme Court, Comelec Padaca, PNP Purisima and many others.

  • arao_liwanag

    Puro misplace ang inyong mga  values o wala kayong naiintiendihan sa values. Ang loyalty ay sa bansa at sa badila hindi sa individual. Mga corrupt ang culture n’yo.
    Halimbawa, sa US bagamat ang Secretary of Justice ay appointed ng Presidente na ang titulo ay Atty. General, Kung ang Presidente ay may nagawang paglabag sa batas o krimen with the full knowledge of the Attorney general, Kasama ang ang dalawang testigos dapat ng arestohin nya ang Presidente. Ito ay premise sa: a

  • nti_boohaya

    YES Seeer…the bata bata system lives on.  The rank and file have been out sucking it up and driving on getting stuck in their detachments without the possibility og getting promoted, unless, of course, they are bata bata or bag men of the officers.  Ano po ang trend ngayon?  Masangkot (alleged lang ha) sa sa jueteng  o kudeta at ika’y ilalagay sa kapangyarihan.  Puno, Purisima, Honasan, Trillanes, Lim, at mga iba pang mista mista sa mga ibat ibant ahensiya.    Weder weder lang yan.   Come 2016 it would be a different group of people- mga bisaya o taga mindanao naman sana ang mga mamuno sa mga agensiya gaya ng DND, PNP, BOC, PAGCOR at iba pa OR the second coming of northerners.  

  • batangsulpok

    Anong mahihita natin kay Honasan na pagka-graduate sa PMA ay naging aide-de-camp na ni Enrile na DND Secretary ni Marcos kaya ang alam lang niya ay puro bata-bata at palakasan system lalo na sa kapwa PMAers?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYX4ZTAV4BUGW2RIMT45CPYBGA Pio Gante

     ‘do as i say, not as i do’

    hahaha… nice one greg, how’s the finger now?

  • Ivideo

    First Sen Miriam Defensor. Now Sen. Honasan.  Both speaking positively about the President.  Is it now the dawn of enlightenment for these two, for they now see the optimistic trend our country is benefiting from PNoy’s governance?  I hope many will soon follow.

    • AllinLawisFair


    • makabayanofw

      Amen too..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

    for once agree ako kay honasan dito. maging presidente muna sila… har har

  • buttones

    I tend to agree, these military types exist for one reason only, to keep their mouths shut and do as they are told and serve the country that is their job. They are know about military issues, or so it is said, and they should restrict themselves to those matters. I am no fan of Aquino but whether we like it or not, a sitting President holds the prerogative to appoint anybody he wishes.

    “Honasan said that if any officer feels slighted by, or disagrees with, the President’s choices, he should take it up personally with the Chief Executive.”… I strongly disagree, the military is NOT a democracy, if any officer feels ‘irked’ that guy should resign his commission, that is the honorable course, not bickering with his boss…

  • virgoyap

    I disagree with you when you voted for No during the passing of RH bill but this time I totally agree with you about what seems to be a military bickering against the President.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4R3GZTGML26TV2VGS6RVHP2THM Fred

    This time Gringo talks sense!
    I fully agree with you.
    As the saying goes: “If you don’t like the system where you are in, get out”

  • edm365f31

    Only a former military junta coup plotter and attention seeker can come up with this statements.

    As far as the military/police personnel are concern he is just another politician trying to get media mileage.

  • boybakal

    “SUCK IT  UP and SHUT UP.”
    This was the advice that Sen. Gregorio Honasan..

    Suck it up and Shut up….is this all about RH Bill on sex education.
    Of course, you do suck and you shut up as it is full.

  • Ernesto Arceo

    Most officers does not probably enjoy their military career life because they see a lot of bad examples from their politically connected peers who travel around like civilian executives; wining, womanizing, engaging in vice connected businesses,sometimes just being laps dogs to pols,hence, are also affected by such disease, contrary to a well disciplined military life.The moral values core of the military must be reshaped now specially that the Philippines is threatened of slow possible invasion or incorporation as a territory by China, first through economic and later on,over run by China’s military..

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