Tagle says it’s time for renewal of faith

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Manila Archbishop Luis Antonio Cardinal Tagle: An appeal. AP FILE PHOTO

‘Tis the season for renewal of faith in God.

Amid the “commercialization” of Christmas, Manila Archbishop Luis Antonio Cardinal Tagle on Saturday reminded the public not to lose sight of the primary significance of the season.

In his Christmas message, Tagle said the season should also be an opportunity for Christians to renew their faith, which should lead them “to solidarity with our neighbors, especially the poor.”

“In a real sense, Christmas is all about faith. To remove faith from Christmas is to empty it of its meaning. It is a season born of faith and a privileged time to renew our faith,” he said.

Tagle noted that Catholics would be celebrating Christmas this year within the “Year of Faith” declared by Pope Benedict XVI.

“What can the Year of Faith contribute to the Christmas spirit? Faith is a living and sustained relationship with God. It is the Triune God who initiates this relationship by coming to us,” Tagle said.

“Faith becomes complete in our response to God in trust and love, transforming our relationship with other people, society and creation,” he said.

Tagle, a theologian, said Christmas “vividly recalls the coming of the Savior Jesus Christ, incarnate by the power of the Holy Spirit.”

“He comes as one like us except in sin, because as the Savior, He cannot participate in humanity’s rejection of God. He opens the door for us to enter God’s life. His obedience and fidelity is the door to God. He is the way,” he said.

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“On the other hand, every Christmas season invites us to receive Jesus as the true Son of God become flesh, to accept Him as our Savior and to enter the door to life in the Holy Spirit. Faith in God leads us to solidarity with our neighbors, especially the poor whom Jesus loves,” he added.

Tagle said faith should make Christians “sharers in Jesus’ saving mission” and “heralds of true freedom” from all the earthly matters “that enslave us.”

“I pray that all Christians may appreciate more the precious gift of faith during this Christmas season. As we behold the Christ Child, humble and poor, let us thank God for His great love for us and let us respond with all the love we could give,” he said.

“Only pure divine love can save us. I wish all you and your loved ones a Blessed Christmas and a Peaceful New Year,” Tagle said.

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  • Pablo316

    Indeed it is because of the presence and and conscious recognition of the Lord Jesus Christ as the Son of God and the world’s Saviour within the Christmas celebration that keeps it from being a totally pagan celebration.
     
    Further the following biblical verses shield some professing Christian from being totally condemned by others who might have taken a very stringent view of Christmas.
     
    ”One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.” (Romans 14:5-9)
     
    So then those who should celebrate Christmas should celebrate it to the Lord Jesus Christ!
     
    Read the Bible also godly people and God bless!

    • rinom

      in whatever we do, we must do it for the glory of God.

    • Dieserweg

      “Sola Scriptura” of M. Luther has been debunked as not biblical long time ago, sir.

  • ARIKUTIK

    Only pure divine love can make a nation happily caring for each other. To live and let die is misserable existence. Which creature with human heart will be happy on the death of others. Only an evil will be jumping in joy if others will die.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    Renewal of false faith ?

  • http://jaoromero.com/ Jao Romero

    don’t renew “faith.” renew LOVE. God would rather you LOVE your neighbors than you spend all that time praying in a stone church. when you live a life of love, you live a life of faith.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002207384387 Andrei Mendoza

    taena itong mga bishop na ito sarap i-assassinate eh , yung mga pari nyong pedo at yung mga tumiwalag ang sabihnan nyo ng ganyan.

  • brunogiordano

    PASKO panahon ng mga religious SCAMMERS gamit ang BIBLE at FAITH sa kanilang pang-ra racket sa mga SUCKERS.

    Iwasan ang mga BIBLE QUOTING PARROTS upang hindi ma- SCAM.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CBBPG4SGSURB5V5A5BBQX4HF2Y Peter

    and its time for the Catholic Church to renew their way of thinking which still is jurassic, archaic, and fossilized.

    • rbrtsmith

      and full of fantasies and ‘cultish’ rituals just to cater their followers’ emotions and imaginations.. 

  • agaylaya

    “Faith is a living and sustained relationship with God. It is the Triune God who initiates this relationship by coming to us,” Tagle said.
    “Faith becomes complete in our response to God in trust and love, transforming our relationship with other people, society and creation,” he said.
    Tagle, a theologian, said Christmas “vividly recalls the coming of the Savior Jesus Christ, incarnate by the power of the Holy Spirit.”

    Ang hirap ko talagang magets yung pinagsasabi ni Cardinal Tagle. Sana gawin nyang simple yung mensahe niya. Pakiramdam ko tuloy mahina or wala akong faith.

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    GlorIa bribed to Mitsubishop and Safari…

     Butuan City Bishop Juan de Dios Pueblos, who received a Mitsubishi Montero, Bontoc-Lagawe Bishop Rodolfo Beltran (Nissan Pathfinder), Abra Bishop Leopoldo Jaucian (Mitsubishi Strada), Cotabato Archbishop Orlando Quevedo (Toyota Grandia Hi-Ace), Basilan Bishop Martin Jumoad (Mitsubishi Strada), Zamboanga Archbishop Romulo Valles (Toyota Grandia Hi-Ace); and Nueva Segovia Archbishop Ernesto Salgado (Isuzu Crosswind).

    • jdelacruz13

       that “fate” with GMA ….. hehehehe .

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QHGUJ3OJZAOIMBYYWTABNV2EEM Ai

      so marami pala sila ‘ kala ko dalawa lang. nasauli ba mga ito sa gov’t?…kakahiya :(

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

      hindi bribed, HINGI !!!!

    • Yobhtron

      These SUVishops are a disgrace!  Mga mukhang SUV at ang mga mukha ay kasing kapal ng mga gulong ng mga SUV.

  • jdelacruz13

    my take on this is …its time for the church “REALLY” walk the walk sandali … muckhang mataas ata iyon . ibig kong pong sabihin eh sana ang simbahan ay hindi puro salita . marami diyan kundi pari-parian ( pekeng pari ) , gagambang pari ( paring mahilig sa laman ) . sana ang mga pari natin ay gaya ng dati ..simpleng tao . ngayon mga naka PAJERO , MONTERO or 4×4 kasi kailangan daw . ni hindi mo nga makausap ng maayos . bakit? kasi marumi daw tayo ( physically ) . pero sila kaya malinis ? ( physically ? morally ? ) .

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

      isang tanong sa mga pari, naka pajero, montero ,safari etc.. at nakatumgkod pa ng maypalamuting   ginto at damit na makikislap, sombrerong kung ano-ano si Jeso Kristo at ang mga disipolo gumamit ba ng ganyan? gawa-gawa lang yata ito ng simbahan para pogi ang tingin sa kanila !!!!

      • Pitbulldog

        Sigurado ka ba na pari binabanggit mo o pastor na malapit lang sa bahay mo?

  • MULEN

    If only the shepherd tends his flock and limits his interference on matters not relating to sheep-raising, his sheep would have grown fat and happy instead of being thin and weak and constantly falling prey to marauding hungry wolves.  

  • ODAPAIN

    Pls. stop with political mambo jumbo,we  might have more Faith.We hate political speeches in the pulpit,

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      It reminds me at the height of Cory vs Marcos campaign when I attended Mass at Baclaran.  During the greeting “Peace be with you”, the priest told the audience:  “When you greet the person beside you, make sure he’s not a Marcos loyalist.”

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    Priest who had sex with boys now tells how to smuggle ivory

    National Geographic‘s new issue exposes the ivory business, which has been hiding in plain sight since a worldwide trade ban was enacted in 1989. And a major player in the magazine’s story is a priest in the Philippines whom I wrote about in 2005 when investigating another global-trafficking phenomenon — the Catholic Church’s movement of sexual abuse suspects across international borders to escape justice.

    The priest, Monsignor Cristobal Garcia, is now quoted as explaining how to smuggle ivory into the United States: 

    “Wrap it in old, stinky underwear and pour ketchup on it.” And if an icon won’t fit in a suitcase? Here’s how 

    National Geographic‘s Bryan Christy summarizes Garcia’s advice: “I might get a certificate from the National Museum of the Philippines declaring my image to be antique, or I could get a carver to issue a paper declaring it 

    to be imitation or alter the carving date to before the ivory ban.”Garcia also made provocative comments when I interviewed him about why he fled the U.S. in 1985. He admitted having sex with altar boys and supplying them with drugs

    The Catholic sex abuse cases are a series of convictions, trials and investigations into allegations of child sexual abuse Crimes committed by Catholic priests and members of Roman Catholic orders against children as young as 3 years old with the majority between the ages of 11 and 14.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Centuries and decades ago, mere criticism of the Catholic Church would get you arrested and tortured.  Many women from third world countries like the Philippines were impregnated by the Catholic priests.  That’s why today, we see many mestizos and mestizas in Latin America.  They’re all over.  Just look at the Miss Universe contestants representing Latin America like Venezuela, Mexico, Columbia and even in the Philippines.  Look at our movie stars so many of whom are descendants of Spanish priests.

    • Pitbulldog

      Pastors who once were hard pressed to find means to feed and clothe their families now have plantations, mansions and luxury cars that they parade around whenever they visit their faithfuls kuno….wow, sarap mag tayo ng church at manggoyo.

  • wawangpenoy

    ‘Tis the season for renewal of faith in God.’  INDEED!!!!

    It’s been overdue for 500 years. When your kind landed in the Philippines 500 years or so ago, they should have thought of this. But because it is your nature to play God, you did everything to scare people so that you can subject them to an everlasting subservience. You were successful in some ways as manifested by a few here who mimics your ways, i.e., professing righteousness and godliness but acting otherwise.

    WALK THE TALK!!! From now on, stay out of politics and prove that you can live free of corruption, both politically and spiritually. Everytime you issue praise releases or what you call pastoral letter, let it be purely an address to your flocks devoid of politics and scare mongering.  You’ll be surprised. Some of your prodigal members might just come home knocking at your churches’ doors, renewing their faith because they’ve seen your efforts to amend your crooked ways. Who knows? I might too.

    Glory to all thinking catholics and may our tribe flourish. Happy Holidays!!!!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      The Spaniards came to the Philippines with Cross on one hand and Sword on the other.  What does this tell us?

      • Pitbulldog

        Engot ka pala.  katanda mo na di mo pa alaa yan?  Ang Krus na dala nila ay para sa pangangaral, at ang tabak na tangan tangan nila ay para pamutol sa masukal na dadaanan nila.  Nung dumating sila, di pa uso illegal logging nun, kaya masukal pa pati kapatagan.  Kahina mo naman sa history, Ogag.

  • Jerry_SeinfeId

    Faith? What CBCP and a lot of Priests meddling in Political Affairs of the state is just wrong. Stay focused on religion and being good Christians not dictate how to run a country.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Catholic Church has been meddling in state affairs since the Spanish time.  Please take note that in every municipal and city hall, there’s always a Catholic Parish Church beside.  Even the great Roman Empire had to bow down to the Catholic Church.  The late Cardinal Sin was a very good example of how he meddles in government.  He led the Catholic Church in conspiring with other groups to oust two duly elected Presidents.  But came GMA administration which was worst yet Sin never said a word until he went to his grave.

  • Touch_Me_, Nuts!

    If you read most of the comments here, they are almost always full of anger and anti- Roman clerics.  I often wonder if such aggressive behavior is good or bad for awakening.  Aggressive anger possesses power but in the end it dies down like a squib. A righteous anger however sustains and turns into something positive for it wishes to correct a wrong.  The Roman Church however is not expected to reform herself from the dictates of the disgruntled faithful. Martin Luther has shown that. After all the Roman Church is supposed to be brimming with intellectual heavyweights who have learned to have stiff-upper-lips over the years.  As always they are not ready to bend down to the so-called street urchins. Perhaps this country now needs a spiritual revival from the outside of the Roman Church to augment the seeming awakening that’s coming from the political scene to push enlightenment and progress for the people.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Self-destruct.  That’s what Catholic Church is.  She has long lost her credibility and self-destructed herself.  If the Catholic Church is getting anger and attacks, it’s her own doings.  But Catholic Church should realize that people are not reasonable and they attack mostly Catholic false teachings and the leaders who take care of the flock.  They have failed terribly.  It used to be that other religious groups found it hard to draw Catholics to theirs.  Today, Catholics voluntarily leave the church and join other groups.  If the Catholic Priests and Bishop focus on taking care of the spiritual needs of the flock and they practice what they preach, then things might be a bit different.

  • batangsulpok

    Dapat tumigil na ang CBCP sa pakikialam sa gobyerno at ang intindihin ay ang pagbibigay ng magandang halimbawa sa mga nasasakupan dahil napakaraming katoliko ang immoral ang buhay, simba ng simba Linggo-Linggo pero ang daming baho tulad ni Erap, ang daming babae pero naging Presidente pa at pinagmimisa pa ng mga Obispo, maraming katoliko ang may kabit o nakikiapid sa may-asawa o maraming babae ang may mga anak sa iba’t-ibang lalake, isa pa, halos mga nakaupo sa puwesto ay mga katoliko na corrupt.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Kahit na sa pagsimba pakonti ng pakonti ang nagsisimba.  Marami lang nagsisimba kapat Pasko at Mahal na Araw.  Kasi ba naman parang palengke sa loob ng simbahan.  May naglalakad.  May nagdarasal.  May nagkukuwentuhan.  May natutulog.  Siyanga pala may mandurukot pa.  Ang magnobyo naglalambingan.  May mga naka-tsinelas lang.  May mga babaeng akala mo pupunta sa party o picnic.  Ang mas nakakainis pa, ang sermon kadalasan wala sa binasang biblya.  Puro kuwento lang at pulitika. 

      • joshmale2004

        Idagdag mo pa lalo na sa Quiapo church. Nagkalat sa paligid ng church nagtitinda ng mga sexual aids lalo na yung tawag nilang pilikmata ng kambing at mga pampahaba kuno.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

        Tama.  Alam mo ba kung bakit hindi pinaaalis ang mga vendors sa labas ng Simbahang Quiapo?  Kasi may commission ang Pari at Quiapo Church.

      • Yobhtron

        Bugbug na bugbug na ang RCC pero wala naman silang aksiyon na ginagawa para linisin ang kanilang mga bakuran.

    • indiosbravos2002

      Agree. Kung seryoso sila sa renewal tsutsu. Linisin muna nila bakuran nila. Tanggalin na mga obispo, monsnor at mga pari na may kaso– wag lang ilipat saan saan, hindi PNP to. Magkaroon ng policy na hwag makialam sa gobyerno, suriin maige ang sexual orientation ng mga seminarista– kung pumipitik ang kamay at masama tingin sa kapwa seminarista, tanggalin na.

  • GlenMJacob

    James 2:14-17

    What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them?. Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, ” go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Most Catholics do not live by their faith.  Because their leaders do not practice what they preach.  The priests do have faith and deeds…evil deeds.

    • ODAPAIN

      you said it the soul does reside in the body,and even the body has no home , Hope the Church can donate instead of asking for donations,pity our brothers hit by ‘Pablo’ . Dame lupa at pera ng Simbahan

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

        At ang mga lupa ng pag-aari ng simbahan ay pilit na inagaw sa mamamayan noon pang panahon ng Kastila at ngayon tax free pa.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    Catholics’ reply to Tagle:  It’s time to leave the Catholic Church.

    • Pitbulldog

      You leave, no one tells you not to.  If you are not happy with it, be a Muslim or better yet, build your own and tell the world you are the true Messiah.  Shades of INC…

  • Guest

    father wag niyo na budburan pa ng asin ang mga sugat namin. sapat na sa ngayon ang batiin kami ng merry xmas.

    • joshmale2004

      Merry Christmas!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YAU43R25CAHGNYPHE6HLAM3V6Y Benjamin

    talagang hinde mapigilan nitong mga pari at obispo ang manghimasok at makialam sa mga proseso ng pagpapalakad ng gobyerno..Si Palma ng Cebu umeepal na naman sa kaso ni Gwen Garcia..bakit hinde na lang kayo lahat ng pari at obispo kumandidato para kung manalo kayo magkakaroon na kayo ng direktang pagpapatakbo sa pamahalaan..sa ngayon pabayaan nyo ang mga mga opisyal na direktang pinili ng mga mamamayan na mamuno at manungkulan..

    • wawangpenoy

       Malaki ang kutob ko na talagang nakikinabang itong si Palma kay Gwen eh. Bakit noong nasa pwesto si Panlilio as Pampanga’s gov, walang nakuhang suporta si Panlilio sa simbahan noong inaatake siya kaliwa’t kanan ng mga corrupt na kalaban nya. That was even the more reason for the church to throw their weight behind Panlilio since he was trying to correct the wrongs in governance.

      Tama talaga ang kutob ng marami na itong mga obispo ay corrupt. Kasi nakikialam lang kung saan may interest sila at kung wala silang mapapala, ay tatahimik na lang. Parehong politika naman ang usapin kaya di masasabi na ibang issue yung kay Gwen.

      Maligaw ako ng usapan sandali. Ano ba ang pinagpuputok ng butse ng mga obispo sa RHB? Seriously. I don’t believe it’s because of God’s words because if it is, Palma should distance from Gwen or they should have already condemned Gloria during her time. They were so hell bent, and are still, in opposing the RHB. 

      • indiosbravos2002

        True. Halatang Palma roots for Garcia and not for the people of Cebu. Even in the church money and influence talks… Just like the old days.

  • joshmale2004

    Tagle appealing the public for renewal of faith especially this Christmas. It would be better if he order first his priests to stop using the pulpit for politicking. How could the catholics renew their faith when all they hear during sermons are the priests bitterness of the RH bill and the people behind the RH Bill. Tagle should check his priests during the Simbang Gabi and he will find I am telling the truth.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YAU43R25CAHGNYPHE6HLAM3V6Y Benjamin

    Sa February na bertdey ni bishop Juan de Dios Pueblos…Lapit na  hapi bertdey Pueblos..Hapi bertdey Pueblos…Hapi bertdey Pueblos….MONTERO..MONTERO..MONTERO…MONTERO…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

    HOLLOW WORDS, SHOWING ONE’S COMPASSION TO THE POOR & SUFFERING IS THE BEST WAY TO RENEW ONE’S FAITH & LOVE OF JESUS, NOT ONLY DURING CHRISTMAS BUT EVERYTIME THE NEED ARISES !!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NYCRVBBE6BG4ZQWRDCRAG32YJA Ross

    The faithful always has faith in God. It’s the faith in priests that’s doubtful. Imagine raping kids, smuggling, stealing, having bastards, enriching themselves, etc.

    • ODAPAIN

       and ask for donations at the same time that they are already TAX FREE

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FQQPZLNOMD2EBFTHSWOP6QGZWY Marshall

    hinde kaya anak sa labas ni Babalu itong pari na ito..iisa kase ang hilatsa ng ngite eh,,,ngising pa cute….

    • Dieserweg

      I wonder how the children of Babalu feels about this comment.  Using a dead person’s name to malign others tells volume about the kind of person you are, sir.  Babalu did our country service with how he made generations of Filipinos took breaks from the cruelty of life, if only for a while.  God, rest his soul.  As for you gentleman, think!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

        There are many Babalus in the country not only the former late comedian.

      • Dieserweg

        Big chin, long chin, massive chin, chinny-chinny tiny mold when its all about just chin. But Babalu, dear sir is Babalu, just as Dolphy is Dolphy, and Panchito remains Panchito. Use their names in great esteem as a sign of respect. For all the others are copycats that may simply put in disgrace the original and undisputed. After all, discretion takes a long way, while stupid is what stupid does. You know.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/FQQPZLNOMD2EBFTHSWOP6QGZWY Marshall

        father..kung ayaw nyong makatanggap ng kritisismo tumahimik at tumigil na kayo sa pakikialam sa mga polisiyang ipinapatupad ng kasalukuyang gobyerno..masyado kase kayong maaangas may mga pagbabanta pa kayong sinasabi kapag hinde nasunod ang inyong mga kapritso..PWEEEEEEE !!!!!

      • julymorning

         ABNOY KA TALAGA MARSHAL. PA PWE PWE KAPA, HALATANG BADING KA AT SUPOT!!!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/FQQPZLNOMD2EBFTHSWOP6QGZWY Marshall

        At magbayad kayo ng buwis…mag-issue kayo ng resibo sa lahat ng pumapasok sa inyong mga abuloy at mga kita sa lahat ng inyong negosyo katulad ng mga kolehiyo at unibersidad at kita mula sa sosyo sa mga malalaking mining firms….di ba ,, Father?

      • Dieserweg

        oh, so much anger. Wow!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Ang hugis ng hitsura niya at pag-ngiti nagsasabing bading siya.  Napansin ko rin pumipitk ang mga daliri niya kapag nagsasalita.

      • julymorning

         NOEL PARANG ALAM NA ALAM MO, KASI IKAW AY TUNAY NA BADING. ABNOY NA MONGOLOID AT SUPOT!!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YAU43R25CAHGNYPHE6HLAM3V6Y Benjamin

      baka naman  si Peping Cojuangco ang tunay nyang ama…..

    • julymorning

       MARSHAL BAKA IKAW ANG ANAK SA LABAS KASI ABNOY KA AT MONGOLOID MAG ISIP. SUPOT!!!

  • joerizal

    Wala naman sa Bibliya na i-celebrate taun-taon ang kapanganakan ni Kristo…pustahan pa tayo. Isa lang ang sinabi ni Kristo na alalahanin natin at iyon ay ang pagtanggap ng katawan at dugo niya. Hindi kailangang maghintay ng Pasko para maging mabait sa kapwa at lalung hindi natin kailangan na sumunod sa tradisyon ng mga pagano kung kailan siguro pinanganak si Kristo. Ang nakikinabang lang diyan ay ang mga Intsik na nagbebenta sa dibisorya. Si Tagle ay intsik din kung di niyo alam.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      Isa pa si Cardinal Sin.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000532465679 Donardo Cuago

    TELL YOUR FELLOW BISHOPS TO GET OFF POLITICS FIRST!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    Hindi ba titigil sa kadadak-dak ang mga paring iyan !

    • Filpino

      Hindi, dahil ayun ang mission nila, gawin ang kalooban ni Kristo.

      • indiosbravos2002

        Di ko alam kalooban na pala ni Kristo humilig mzmolestya ng bata, mangbabae o manglalaki, mang-coerce ng politiko, maging mangmang sa syensya at manakot ng delubyo pag di nasunod kagustuhsn nila.

  • simonibarra27

    CBCP cannot save us only pure love!  tama! layasan na

    • Filpino

      hindi namimilit ang mga katoliko tulad ng ibang sekta, kaya GO… gud luck nalang.

  • simonibarra27

    Pa cute pa tong hayop na to! instik na instik ang karakas,

    • Filpino

      At least sya cute.. ikaw kaya? acute hehehe

      • indiosbravos2002

        Ampotah.. Bading ka ba. Kulang na lang i-hand job mo yong pic ah.

    • BLITZKRIEG166

      @simonibarra27:disqus 
      …born again ka..?

    • julymorning

       MAS PA CUTE KA, KASI ABNOY AT MONGOLOID KANA, BADING AT SUPOT KAPA!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/25UAHA74QQS5NENIA3EXO2A7PY Faisal salman

    papungay pa ng mata ang hinayupak na malditang pari na ito..

    • Filpino

      Na bading ka ba sa mga mata nya? problema mo yan.

    • julymorning

       MAS MALDITA KA, KASI ABNOY KANA, MONGOLOID AT BADING PA!!!

  • indiosbravos2002

    Build your credibility from the ground again. Only then can you expect the flock follow.

    • Filpino

      Ano bang pinagsasabi mo? Kilalanin mo muna si Bishop Tagle bago mo sabihin yang kredibilidad na yan.

      • indiosbravos2002

        Bago ka magtroll. Tingin tingin ka muna sa paligid mo. Wala nang kredibilidad ang kaparian. Scandal dito, scandal don. Kung hindi Pajero, sex scandal, pedophilia, pagtatago ng pedophile at lately importer pa ng endangered na ivory tusks.

        Ayos ang Catholic religion pero yong namamahala ang dapat ng renewal. Just saying…

      • Pitbulldog

        Kung born again ka, or INC member, wala ring kredibilidad mga sekta nyo dahil lumalabas na kurakot mga pastores nyo.  Mga tao lahat iyan na nagkukulang at nagkakamali din..Bakit may matataas sa INC na uamlis diyan.  At bakit tila tumamalay na ang born again movement ngayon?  Mukhang nagising na mga tao sa panloloko nyong mga pastores kayo?

      • UrHONOR

        HA HA Ha….kung hindi PUTI… ITIM ng piho!

    • BLITZKRIEG166

      @ indiosbravos2002.
      mawalang galang na po. tanong ko lang po. ano ba na experience mo sa mga pari at parang galit ka sa kanila?

      • indiosbravos2002

        Sorry pero sinisigurado ko sayo. Ikaw lang ang may “experience” sa pari. Mali tanong mo. Hehehe.

      • robert pilapil

        wag mo lahatin ang pari dahil sa pinili ni Jesus 12 apostoles ay iisa lang ang totoong Judas.  ngayon sa ilang libong pari at obispo sa buong mundo sabihin mo kong ilan ang sumunod sa yapak ni Judas? at kahit pari at obispo sila , sila ay mga ordinaryong tao pa din na kagaya natin hindi sila perfecto, tingnan mo sa bibliya kong nasaan ang mga apostoles ng si Jesus ay pinako sa krus? pinili ni Jesus ang mahina at walang pinag aralan dahil sila ang mga totoong malinis ang puso at isipan. hindi ang katauhan ng mga pari at obispo ang banal kundi ang opisina na ipinagkatiwala ng Panginoon. at kahit anong gagawin ng mga kalaban ng Simbahang Katoliko ay hindi sila mananaig dahil yan ang pangako ni Jesus na kahit ang kapangyarihan ng impiyerno hindi mananaig laban dito. at ang maliwanag na ebidensya ay hanggang ngayon  ay matatag at malakas pa rin kahit ano pang gagawing paninira at kasinungalingan na binabato sa kanya.  

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/NKMLL6HD6WUINN5XQWNKKQDFEA Edwin Edwin

        Blitzkrieg166, wag ka ng maghanap pa ng kadamay. I-share mo na sa amin yong experiences mo sa mga pari….

        Naghahanap ka pa ng damay eh. Nagustuhan mo ba? hehehe

      • BLITZKRIEG166

        tol napaka ganda ng experience ko sa mga pari……mga gabay at tagapag pa alala ang mga yan pag nalilihis ka ng lumang daan

  • Pitbulldog

    It is about time the Catholic Church fights back.  These other religious denominations, i.e. INC, born again sects, Protestants, Muslims continue to undermine and attack the Church in order to win Catholics.  Mga sektang nagmamagaling na sila daw ay tunay na relihiyon, pero sa totoo, lumalago din sa panlilinlang.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/25UAHA74QQS5NENIA3EXO2A7PY Faisal salman

      ang mga Baklitang pari at obispo ang umaatake at nakikialam sa mga repormang isinusulong ng gobyernong ito..hinde ito usapang religion vs. religion ..ito ay usapin ng panghihimasok ng mga pari at obispo sa politika at pamahalaan….

      • BLITZKRIEG166

        @ faisal salman
        may GOD have mercy on your soul…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/25UAHA74QQS5NENIA3EXO2A7PY Faisal salman

        baklitang pari ka rin ? eeewwwwwww,,yucky…

      • Pitbulldog

        Faisal, do you know why extremist Muslims are everywhere?  They are the desperate group in your fold who have given up on trying to win converts to Islam thru evangelization or persuasion.  They employ violence now to propagate their religion.  Because you have to admit it, Muslims are more in danger of being converted to other faiths because your doctrines and teachings have not evolved with the times.  They have reamined primitive and stagnant.

    • brunogiordano

      “Mga sektang nagmamagaling na sila daw ay tunay na relihiyon, pero sa totoo, lumalago din sa panlilinlang.”

      GOOD!!!!!

      Mabuti inamin mo na lahat kayong mga religion at kulto ay lumalago sa PANLILINLANG.

      • Pitbulldog

        Alam mo ba Bruno na tila dito lang naman sa Pinas at America masigasis mga born agains at other religious sects na yan e.  Dito may nalillinlang pa sila.  In Latin America, Catholics are growing at instead na ma-convert nila, sila pa yata na ko-convert doon. And now you know…kaya magpursige pa kayo na manloko ng mga Kaotliko dahil alam na ng karamihan na mga kawatan ang mga patores nyo…Di nyo kayang siraan ang mga aral ni Kristo, so ang mga pari tina-target nyo.  Remember mga tao din iyan tulad ng mga Imam at pastores nyo, di perpekto. 

      • brunogiordano

        Sa pagkakaalam ko iisa ang DIYOS na pinaniniwalaan ng katoliko, born again at ng ibang Christian sects.

        Sa pahayag mo ang pagkakaiba lang ay kung paano kayo manglinglang para kayo lumago.

    • http://twitter.com/Olibo2 Olibo

      “…..lumalago DIN sa panlilinlang.”– Kasama ang relihiyon mo ( Katolika) sa panlilinlang.

      • Pitbulldog

        Olibo, nilinlang nga ba ni Kristo si St Peter para itayo and simbahang Katolika?  Di naman siguro.  Baka mga born again, nanlilinlang ng mga tao hanggang ngayon.  I am sure, these pretenders will self-destruct pag nanghinawa na mga tao sa kabuwangan ninyo.  don’t forget, Catholicism has survived for thousands of years.  It won’t be that easy for you and the non-Catholics to put it down. 

      • joshmale2004

        Real born again do not result to the dirty tactics of maligning other religions including the catholics in order to propagate the word of God. Being born again is not a religion. It is about your personal relationship with God and your declaration of Jesus as your personal savior. The reason why many people have accepted this personal relationship with God is that the Men of God propagating His words, base their teaching directly from the Bible and not on any man’s wisdom. People who hear them preach can personally attest that every word they pronounce is taken and verifiable from the Bible itself. For them, it’s not a membership but an acceptance of the Word of God which is the basis of their renewed faith. Attacking other religion does not fall as one of Jesus’ teachings. Acceptance of Jesus is a matter of one’s freedom of personal choice.

      • noyab

         INC lang ang nag mamaligned sa RCC to earn their living

      • http://twitter.com/Olibo2 Olibo

        Wala kang mababasa sa bibliya na ‘itatayo ng Kristo ang Katolika’ isinangkot mo pa si St.Peter. No need to put down Catholicism, it’s been in ruin since it was invented after the death of the true disciples of Christ. RCC is a bankrupt organization. Many of your churches are badly maintained.In America alone many of your churches are either padlocked or for sale, 94 of your priests are either charged or convicted for sexual offences. The list is endless. Ikaw ang buang.

      • Pitbulldog

        Yan ang pagkaalam mo.  Either you belong to a different sect who is so worried why until now your dream of a ruined RCC has not yet been fulfilled dahil matagal pa judgment day.  If you are so sure that your sect is among those to be favored with salvation, you are dreaming.   Salvation is not in what kind of church you belong or how well you perform you methods of worshipping God. Nasa pagkatao yon.

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    • indiosbravos2002

      The threat is not external. Its INTERNAL. You dont just transfer religion overnight. It just means people have lost faith in the religion and thats pretty bad. And with how the Bishops and priests have been performing the last 5 years, no wonder pople are jumping ship left and right.

  • Filpino

    Kayong mga pumupuna kay Bishop Tagle at sa catholic church, Magbigay nga kaya ng tunay na nangyari na ginawa ni bishop Tagle na nakasama sa taong Pinoy o sa ating bayang Pinas.

    Baka hindi nyo pa alam ang mga katangian ni bishop Tagle na hinahangaan ng di lang dito sa atin kundi ng mga banyaga rin.

    Magsaliksik muna kayo ng buhay nya at ikumpara nyo sa mga pastor nyo bago nyo tirahin si bishop ng pababa.

    Mga impokrito!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/FQQPZLNOMD2EBFTHSWOP6QGZWY Marshall

      bigay ka nga ng isang tunay at personal mong kaalaman na katangian ni Peping Tagle na  kagila gilalas para sya hangaan ng mga Pilipino..yung naging magkamukha sila ni Peping Cojuangco ?kahanga-hanga ba para sa iyo yun ?

      • BLITZKRIEG166

        @ marshall
        mawalang galang na po. pwede bang malaman ang masama mo namang karanasan kay father tagle.

      • Pitbulldog

        At ikaw, Kuneho, magbigay ka nga nga katangian mo para hangaan ko naman mga sinasabi mo?

    • http://twitter.com/Olibo2 Olibo

      Except his oppositon to RHBill which is anti-majority of Filipinos and the “Triune God” that invented by RCC. This is a public forum, anyone who has no courage to accept and read other’s comments is not welcome.

      • noyab

         Anti Christ lang ang di naniniwala sa essence ng Trinity….isa ka siguro…

    • http://www.facebook.com/arthur.quinones.5 Arthur Quinones

       Bibigyan kita ng Halimbawa: Sa Bible ang utos ng Diyos huwag sumamba sa mga imahe kahit pa ito inanyuan ng galing sa langit dahil itoy kasuklam suklam sa Diyos. Pero ang ginagawa ng mga Bishop kasama si Tagle pinapasamba tayo sa mga kung anu-anong Santo na labag sa utos ng Diyos. Gusto mo pa ng halimbawa: Nasa Bible bawal din ng Diyos na Binyagan ang bata dahil wala pa itong katuwiran, pero ang mga Bishop kasama si Tagle sa limbo daw pupunta ang mga batang hindi nabinyagan. Gusto mo pa marami pa..nasa Bible lahat, utos lahat ng Diyos.

      • Pitbulldog

        Hwag na kayong mangaral kung paano ang pinakamagandang paraan na pagsamba sa Diyos Ama.  Yan ay paraan na nakagisnan na ng iba.  At kung meron man kayong ideya na bago, wag nyo nang ipauso, gawin na lang ninyo at wag nang gamitin para manira ng iba para makahikayat kayo.  Kristiyano din naman kayo.  Sa tinign nyo ba, kayo lang ang masi-save dahil sa akala nyo tama ginagawa nyo?  Ang kaligtasan di nakukuha sa pamamaraan ang pagsamaba kundi nasa gawaing matuwid at tama. Mas mainam pa nga siguro ang  pagano na walang muwang sa relihiyon pero malinis naman ang konsensiya at pagkatao di ba?  At puwede ba, bato na lang ibasag nyo sa mga ulo nyo at ang mga imahe, ibigay nyo na lang sa ibang Katoliko na gusto ang mga yan.  May presyo din yan mga Ogag.

      • batangpaslit

        Salvation is confessing faith in the person of Jesus Christ. And anyone who confesses faith in Jesus Christ must demonstrate their true faith by doing good works.
        A true believer of Jesus Christ, must strive to worship the Holy God properly too.
        We cannot properly worship GOD if we mix our worship with paganistic practices that is detestable to Him.
        The Bible is replete of instructions how to properly worship GOD.
        Our way is not His way.

      • Filpino

        Ungas hindi ka marunong umintindi. Hirap sa inyo hindi nyo binabasa ng buo kaya ligaw na ligaw kayo.

        Ang pinagbabawal ng Diyos ay gumawa ng anumang larawan na likha nya at gawing Diyos. Pinagbabawal nya na gumawa ng mga rebulto at sambahing bilang  diyos tulad ni baal at ashera. Si Jesus ba ay hindi Diyos? Kung sya man ay ginawan ng larawan ng mga katoliko ito ay upang ipaalala sa tao na siya ay Diyos na naging tao. Dahil maraming mga tao ang ligaw na na ayaw tanggapin na si Jesus ay Diyos na naging tao.

        Ipakita mo nga sa akin ang sipi sa bibliya na pinagbasbawal na binyagan ang mga bata at sanggol.

      • noyab

         may tama ka

      • batangpaslit

        Kabayan, don’t rash calling Arthur “ungas”.

        Let us examine of what you wrote kung ano ang ipinagbawal ng Diyos sa anumang larawan at gawing Diyos. Let us take a closer look of the passages in Exodus 20.

        Verse 4, explicitly stated that it is detestable in the sight of GOD to make any graven image to represent Him because GOD is a spirit and has no form. Creating graven images grossly misrepresent Him.

        Verse 5, “you shall not bow down to them…”.

        Question: if indeed the teachings you follow is in accordance of what the Bible teaches, how come you bow down to those graven images? You even kissed their feet and hands.
        You do worship a god who has no ears but could not hear; a god who has eyes but could not see.

        Followers of Jesus Christ do not worship GOD by sight; but, worships GOD in spirit and in truth.

        Jesus Christ said, “I am the Way, the Truth…”

      • batangpaslit

        well said…

    • batangpaslit

      Bro, I find it commendable that you take a stand to “protect” your Cardinal. You are a loyal person.
      Somehow, kabayan, find time to study the Book of Hebrews and the Book of Revelation Chapter 17 and investigate for yourself how to properly worship GOD.

  • BLITZKRIEG166

    kilabutan naman kayo sa mga masasama at bastos nyong komento sa mga pari at sa simbahang katolika. ganyan ba ang aral na itinuturo sa inyo ng sinasabi nyong bagong relihiyon.
    .

    • http://twitter.com/Olibo2 Olibo

      All chicken-hearted and one-sided mentality is not welcome  in this public forum.

      • UrHONOR

        Very well said.

      • batangpaslit

        hahaha…kaya, Bro, huwang kang manakot kasi baka may mahimatay

      • BLITZKRIEG166

        ano nauna itlog o manok..?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/25UAHA74QQS5NENIA3EXO2A7PY Faisal salman

      at ikaw Father kinikilabutan ka ba sa tinde ng pag-epal niyo sa politika at gobyerno …hinde ano kase turing nyo sa sarile nyo pag-aari nyo Pilipinas lahat ng kapritso nyo makukuha nyo..nung masupalpal kayo ng Astig na Pangulo natauhan kayo at nagising sa isang mapait na katotohanan..hinde lahat ng panahon mauuto nyo ang Presidente ng Pilipinas..palagay ko kinikilabutan ka lang  kapag taeng-tae ka na…ngek….

      • julymorning

         PAREHO KAYONG ABNOY NG NASA MALAKANYANG!!!

      • BLITZKRIEG166

        wala ako sa malacanang baka si faisal pa.. 

      • BLITZKRIEG166

        merry christmas faisal

  • indiosbravos2002

    Hindi sanay sa kritisismo ang mga bishop kaso nakialam sa politika. Hindi na sila naiba sa mga mababang uring politko. Yon nga lang ang politko makapal mukha. Yong pari PIKON kaya TALO.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WIWYLFLU4LPKS7B2ZLLRVFKS3Y vir_a

    For those with strong faith, it’s a renewal of faith. But for those with weak faith, it’s disorientation or conversion to other religious sect. The catholic membership is dwindling. Something has to be done to keep them into them folds of church. Make the church still relevant to the lives of the faithful. Or else catholic faith will turn into a minority sect.

  • Htee

    In his Christmas message, Tagle said the season should also be an opportunity for Christians to renew their faith, which should lead them “to solidarity with our neighbors, especially the poor.”
    The message is good, but does he have to use the word “solidarity”? Its sounds like a march order for the red flag carrying rallyist.

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    STOP DONATING YOUR MONEY TO THE  CORRUPT BISHOP..The Bank Investments Of Different Dioceses

    EL SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION FILIPINA DE PADRES AGUSTINOS RECOLETOS Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 551,382 60th PHP31.48 Million
    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF JARO Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 491,385 64th PHP28.06 Million

    EL SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION FILIPINA DE PADRES AGUSTINOS RECOLETOS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 2,370,000 31st PHP260.70 Million

    SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION ARCHICOFRADIA DE N.P.J.N DE RECOLETOS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 1,234,603 75th PHP135.81 Million

    CARMEL OF THE DIVINE INFANT JESUS OF PRAGUE, INC. San Miguel Corp (SMC) 957,516 79th PHP105.33 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TUGUEGARAO San Miguel Corp (SMC) 856,639 81st PHP94.23 Million

    REAL MONASTERIO DE LA PURISIMA CONCEPCION DE NUESTRA MADRE SANTA CLARA DE MANILA San Miguel Corp (SMC) 809,834 83rd PHP89.08 Million

    SUPERIOR DE LA CORPORACION DE PADRES RECOLETOS POR BECAS Y VOCACIONES San Miguel Corp (SMC) 621,702 89th PHP68.39 Million
    CARMEL OF ST THERESE OF THE CHILD JESUS San Miguel Corp (SMC) 592,956 91st PHP65.23 Million

    THE DISCALCED CARMELITE NUNS OF CEBU San Miguel Corp (SMC) 451,864 95th PHP49.71 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF NUEVA SEGOVIA DE VIGAN San Miguel Corp (SMC) 428,067 98th PHP47.09 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA Philex Mining Corp (PX) 3,221,135 15th PHP66.68 Million

    RELIGIOUS OF THE VIRGIN MARY – B Philex Mining Corp (PX) 3,125,777 16th PHP64.70 Million

    RELIGIOUS OF THE VIRGIN MARY-A Philex Mining Corp (PX) 1,091,027 69th PHP22.58 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TUGUEGARAO Ayala Corporation (AC) 24,015 73rd PHP9.29 Million

    KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS FRATERNAL ASSOCIATION OF THE PHILS, INC. Ayala Corporation Preferred Shares – A (ACPA) 60,000 2nd PHP31.80 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF TAGBILARAN Ayala Corporation Preferred Shares – B (ACPR) 10,000 64th PHP1.02 Million

    DAUGHTERS OF CHARITY OF ST. VINCENT DE PAUL PHINMA Corp. (PHN) 159,575 19th PHP2.12 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF THE DIOCESE OF JUAN DE DIOS PHINMA…

    • UrHONOR

      This should be posted in all church bulletin boards and doors….to inform people who are coaxed to give, give, and give in the belief that the RCC is POOR.

      • Filpino

        Isa ka pa.. kung alam mo lang kung ilang milyon na ang natulungan ng simbahan dito pa lang sa Pinas.

        Baka nga ikaw nabiyayaan di mo lang alam.

      • indiosbravos2002

        Milyon nga sa tagal ba naman ng panahon andito sila sa bansa… 500 yrs. Ang magandang tanong san nangaling yong pundong pangtulong? E di sa tagasimba din. Naglabas ba ng sang kusing simbahan? Syempre hindi. Yong sobra pinasok sa bangko.

      • UrHONOR

        ISA KA pang ano….MARUNONG MAG-ISIP?

        At SINO ka BA at anong AUTHORITY mo na MAGPUPUNA ng kung ano ang sinasabi ng kahit na sino dito….sacristan ka ba ng mga nakasayang-puti o  dakilang pundilyo?

        BIRA-ka-ng-BIRA, tapos hanggang sa BAKA lang naman ang kaya mong sabihin.  Walang ibig sabihin ang BAKA.

        HINDI paksa ang kung ANO at kung SINO ang natulungan ng TALA mo… INTINDIHIN mo ang BINABASA mo bago ka magbubusa ng kung ano-anong kabulastugan.  AT dahil hindi mo NAINTINDIHAN kung ano ang paksa ng sinalihan mo, bilang tulong sa iyo sa panahon ito, ang PAKSA ay ang mga GA-BUNDOK na kayamanan ng RCC….HINDI ang kung anong tulong o sinong natulungan ng RCC.

        Finally, at dahil na maliwanag na hindi mo din alam, HINDI gawain ng matinong tao, lalo na ang mga “mababait at ma-aamong-parang-korderong” mga.inakay ng mga nakasayang-puti ang mangpuna ng iba pa na wala kang kang alam kung sino ang pinupunaan mo. Anong malay mo na si pader ganito o si pader ganun na nagbibiyaya sa iyo o binibiyayaan mo ang pinagbubusahan mo?  

        Merry Christmas.

      • noyab

         YOU ARE A PRODUCT OF AN ANTI CHRIST…..

      • UrHONOR

        HOW DO YOU KNOW SO?

        ASSUMING, that I am, what do you make that of?  ANYTHING wrong with that NOBAY?
        YOU MUST be a kaTOLik as can usually be gleaned from your make calling and branding, NOBAY. 

        ASSUMING further there is something wrong with it, WHY DON’T YOU KINDLY TELL ME WHAT IT IS.  WHAT IS PRO CHRIST?  A specialist in judging people and mouthing/parroting mantras and catechetics as taught and heard from the “immaculate and moral” agents of Vatican?  Or a sheeple that just follow the herd knowing not wither it goes? 

      • Filpino

        Wala akong maintindihan sa mga sinabi mo.

      • Filpino

        Ang talitalino mo..baka naman galing sa baka ang utak mo hehehe

      • UrHONOR

        Pasensya ka na at hanggang dyan lang kababa ang kaya kong yukuan.

    • Jomex

      post ko sa FB ko

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    STOP DONATING YOUR MONEY TO THE  CORRUPT BISHOP..
    The Bank Investments Of Different Dioceses

    Diocese / Church Foundation Company # Shares Owned Rank in Top 100 Total Investment Value

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 222,843,681 4th PHP12.724 Billion

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (REAL CASA DE MISERICORDIA) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 41,408,841 8th PHP2.364 Billion

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA (HOSPITAL DE SAN JUAN DE DIOS) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 22,072,182 13th PHP1.26 Billion

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (HOSPICIO DE SAN JOSE) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 6,016,624 15th PHP343.55 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (HOSP DE SA JUAN DE DIOS) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 4,285,572 17th PHP244.71 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (MAYORDOMIA DELA CATEDRAL) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 2,664,266 21st PHP152.13 Million

    ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF MLA (ST. PAUL`S HOSPITAL) Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 1,772,418 26th PHP101.21 Million

    CARMEL OF THE DIVINE INFANT JESUS OF PRAGUE, INC. Bank of the Philippine Islands (BPI) 726,819 49th PHP41.50 Million

    • Filpino

      Nakakatawa ka. ilagay mo account #.

      • noyab

         isama mo ang account  number ng INC, JIL, EL SHADDAI, ANG BAGONG DAAN, PASTOR QUIBOLOY AND OTHERS SA STATEMENT MO AND AM SURE MAS MALAKI PA RIN ANG SA INC KAHIT I CONBINE MO LAHAT SILA….

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    Priest who had sex with boys now tells how to smuggle ivory

    National Geographic‘s new issue exposes the ivory business, which has been hiding in plain sight since a worldwide trade ban was enacted in 1989. And a major player in the magazine’s story is a priest in the Philippines whom I wrote about in 2005 when investigating another global-trafficking phenomenon — the Catholic Church’s movement of sexual abuse suspects across international borders to escape justice.

    The priest, Monsignor Cristobal Garcia, is now quoted as explaining how to smuggle ivory into the United States: “Wrap it in old, stinky underwear and pour ketchup on it.” And if an icon won’t fit in a suitcase? Here’s how National Geographic‘s Bryan Christy summarizes Garcia’s advice: “I might get a certificate from the National Museum of the Philippines declaring my image to be antique, or I could get a carver to issue a paper declaring it to be imitation or alter the carving date to before the ivory ban.”

    Garcia also made provocative comments when I interviewed him about why he fled the U.S. in 1985. He admitted having sex with altar boys and supplying them with drugs.

  • kilawon(the return)

     the largest catholic nation in asia and yet the most corrupt and spiritually bankrupt people you’ve ever known!……bunch of hypocrites!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002207384387 Andrei Mendoza

      indeed! i’ll give you a trillion likes for that statement!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

      OUCH!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DKHID3EEHTG27U5JXRIIUVKXQA Jose Rizal

    Thank you, Cardinal!
    Thank you, indeed!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      NABUHAY SI BABALU AKALA KO PATAY NA YAN!! NAKAABITO PA!! MUKANG SINUNGALING ANG DEMONYO!! SATANAS!! LILINLANGIN NA NAMAN ANG MGA PILIPINO SALAMAT SA YOUTUBE AT INTERNET NAGIGISING ANG MGA PILIPINO!!

      • julymorning

         NABUHAY KA DIN ABNOY NA BADING AT SUPOT NA MONGOLOID EDGARDO MENDOZA? SALAMAT SA KAWALAN MO NG UTAK, MONGOLOID KA TALAGA!!!

  • LegalJustice

    You don’t need a middle-man to have a relationship with God.

    Its very important to have a personal relationship with God and read your Bible and follow the teaching  of Jesus Christ.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      And the Bible teaches that Jesus is the Only Mediator between God and men…not the saints, not the priests.

  • Htee

    Merry Christmas din po Cardinal Tagle. Ang wish ko lang po para sa bagong taon ay sana maging mabuti kayong leader ng simbahan at mapitol mo yung mga naliligaw ng landas na obispo ninyo, upang manumbalik ang “faith” ng mga arokyano.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SYG36KOOLRY47VA3ICPJJ5CQTQ ADD

    Renewal of faith is another “gimik” of the Roman Catholic Church which has done over and over again making it a fad.

    Admit it or not, when the Romans invented the Roman Catholic Church, it has a self-life or expiration. The customs, traditions and rituals that you have been doing that are not written in the bible are coming to the consciousness of the truth-seekers.

    The Vatican Leaks issue is comparing the RCC to the Italian Mafia in terms of its secrecy.

    And I thought the “Truth Shall Set You Free?”     

    • Filpino

      If it is a fad how come the catholic church survive this so long (2,000 years and counting)?

      If the teaching of the catholic were not inaccordance with God and the Bible, how come their members are still growing and all the leaders of the world recognize its relevance.

      How about your church? how old it is?

      • MindfulofToday

        The Catholic Chruch survived through the use of force and subjugation. Why not try to view the history of your church and understand that even its very foundation was as gory as death!

      • noyab

         eto pa isang AntiChrist….

      • batangpaslit

        noted…

      • batangpaslit

        Kabayan, if we speak about the church, what it means, is: the “called out” ones, the body of believers.
        The church is not the institution.
        We cannot use the argument of the life of Roman Catholicism as a measure of GOD’s exclusive favour. The Islamic faith have a long history too.
        Judaism is even ahead than Roman Catholicism; likewise, Buddhism and other religious systems had been existing long before the adherents of Christ’s teachings were called the followers of the “Way”.
        The church that Christ established would endure until the end of the age despite and inspite of the idolatrous and false teachings.
        When the Day of Reckoning comes, those that polluted the pure teachings of Christ would be spewed out from His mouth and face judgment.
        The true Christian teaching, is: there is no other mediator between GOD and man, except the name of Christ Jesus. For there is no other name under Heaven and above the Earth who was given that power and authority.

        To teach otherwise is a false doctrine.

        I wonder, why are the Roman Catholic Church parishioners do not call themselves “Christians”? Why would they prefer themselves to be called “catholics”, which means universal?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      The Vatican indeed is connected to Italian Mafia.  In WW2, the Vatican also conspired with the Nazis.

      • batangpaslit

        Noel, there are investigations now that a certain Pope in many ways did help the Jews escaped persecution of Hitler’s progron program

      • julymorning

         TRUE! AND U ARE CONECTED TO D MENTAL HOSPITAL AS WEL!

    • batangpaslit

      You are a diligent researcher, Bro.

  • AlexanderAmproz

    Philippines Churches don’t have an iota of credibility,
    the respectables should resign from this Pilipino’s rabid Vatican Gang !

    • noyab

       WORD OF THE ANTICHRIST……iglesia ka ba….

    • batangpaslit

      This is what I call fearless indictment.

    • julymorning

       OK, IKAW NA CREDIBLE, ABNOY!!!

  • browndarwinian

    ‘Once you assume a creator and a plan, it makes us objects, in a cruel
    experiment, whereby we are created sick, and commanded to be well. I’ll
    repeat that. Created sick, and then ordered to be well…

    Religion, it might be said, must be said, would have to admit, makes
    extraordinary claims, but though I would maintain that extraordinary
    claims require extraordinary evidence, rather daringly provides not even
    ordinary evidence for its extraordinary supernatural claims. To insist
    that we are created and not evolved, in the face of all the evidence.

    Religion, and in fact any form of faith, –because it is a surrender of
    reason, a surrender of reason in favor of faith is a fantastic force
    multiplier. A tremendous intensifier, of all things that are in
    fact divisive rather than inclusive. That’s why its history is so
    stained with blood. Not just of crimes against humanity, crimes
    against womanhood, crimes against reason and science, attacks upon
    medicine and enlightenment, all these appalling things.’ – Hitch

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Roland-Aparece/1261044115 Roland Aparece

      browndarwinian, it appears to me that you combined the distinctive meaning of knowledge and belief. Knowledge are the collection of statements in our mind which we hold to be true based on evidence, while belief is based on trust. I hope this is clear to you.  

      • batangpaslit

        Well said, Roland. You can state it again.
        Faith likewise is based on evidence—albeit intangible evidence.
        The measure that science employ in the investigation of theory do not necessarily apply in matters to faith. Could we weigh love in terms of kilos or pounds?
        For how could science study in a tube or examine in the laboratory the birth of Jesus Christ since the birthday of every individual are occuring only once in a lifetime?
        Good point, Bro.

    • batangpaslit

      Kabayan, the authority you quoted grossly erred in stating that when one have faith, he or she surrender their reason.
      Not true.
      I admit, faith, is beyond reason; but, faith is not contrary to reason.

      The so called crimes against humanity, against womanhood do not proceed from faith. Such dastardly acts proceed from something else.

      Let us narrow down our exchange concerming faith in the Begotten Son of GOD, the Lord Jesus Christ.
      What is the teaching of Christ on matters about His followers how they would conduct themselves towards their fellow creation?
      The Scripture admonish not to be overcome with evil, but to overcome evil with good.
      Is that teaching not reasonable?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO!! MAYOR LITO ATIENZA ABORTIONIST PROLIFE!! CBCP BISHOPS SILENT KILL JOY EXTREMIST TERRORIST!!

    • Filpino

      Edgardo Mendoza ang guapo mo… nagsasabi ka ng tutuo.. isa kang sugo ni satanas.

      • julymorning

         EDAGRDO ANG ABNOY MO, SUPOT AT BADING PA, IKAW ANG MONGOLOID NA APO NI SATANAS

    • noyab

      Grow up people, worry about more important things or you are an ANTICHRIST….

    • julymorning

       SUPOT ABNOY BADING MONGOLOID EDGARDO MENDOZA A.K.A. PEDOPHILE CELDRAN

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO!!

    • Filpino

      Ganoon ba? Paano mo nalaman na satanas sya? Kabisado mo ba pagmumukha at ugali ng isang satanas

    • noyab

       siguro Iglesia ni Kristo ka, galit kc sila sa mga Roman Catholics eh….

    • julymorning

       SUPOT BADING ABNOY MONGOLOID EDGARDO MENDOZA!!!!!!

  • tarikan

    The Church said “truth shall set us free”. Well, tell the whole truth people about virgin birth, Adam & Eve, St. Mary Magdalene, Second Coming, Risen from the dead, Holy Spirit, etc. The flock might appreciate it and renew their faith. But that’s theology, an enigma to many and very much in contrast to science. I think science is the TRUTH, there can be no other way.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Roland-Aparece/1261044115 Roland Aparece

      hahaha, Tarikan I’m wondering if you have made an intensive study in philosophy of science. Science is not against religion and theology. Your concept of science is Realist. But, there are many schools of thought in science. Please read Thomas Khun, The Structure of Scientific Revolution and in a concrete way, please read conventionalism as a school of thought in science.

      • batangpaslit

        Informative.
        Turuan mo sila Roland kung ano ang katotohanan.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BXBYZ5EB467UVJRXK4IOM5BX4Y Todd

      Read the Bible for yourself.

      • batangpaslit

        Good encouragement

    • joshmale2004

      So if Science is the truth, then you believe your origin and your great grandfathers were apes and that your roots are from the apes. Right?

      • batangpaslit

        This is one subject that Macro Evolutionists have difficulty explaining the ancestry of homo sapiens.
        If humankind evolved from the apes, how come there are still Orangutans that swing from vine to vine if indeed the apes have already evolved as Homo Sapiens?

      • tarikan

        Not from apes but from neanderthals. It couldn’t be from Adam & Eve for sure, why? 1. Eve came from the rib of Adam therefore she was cloned (at that time, there already was cloning?). 2. Adam & Eve had three sons (no daughter recorded). Had Adam & Eve died ahead of the three sons, who then gave birth to the remaining two ( 1 was murdered) sons’ children? Or if Eve was widowed, she was being “banged” by her three sons to propagate? 3. Considering Mama Eve committed incest with her three sons and went on giving birth and most probably gave birth to girls. 4. These girls were in turn being “banged” by their uncles including their siblings. This is how science would explain it. No other way.

      • joshmale2004

        Genesis 5:4) The days of Adam after he fathered Seth were 800 years; and he had other sons and daughters.
        The Bible is clear. The Bible states in very plain and simple language at Genesis 5:4 that “…he (Adam) became father to sons and daughters.” Notice the plural “sons” and “daughters.” Since Adam lived for 930 years, he reasonably could have fathered many, many children. His sons, including Cain, would have married their sisters, or nieces. This would sound repulsive to us today, but consider the circumstances back then. It would have been proper at that time, since the Earth’s population was relatively sparse, and the human race was to be proliferated according to God’s purpose. It was only later that God made the restriction not to marry one’s own sister or brother.

      • tarikan

        It is then convenient for God to contradict himself? What was okay then because of God’s wishes for man to proliferate had become bad? Banging ones own sister or mama was okay then and later forbidden by God? What a ridiculous premise. I just wonder why God did not create two separate couples, say Adam & Eve and Tarzan & Jane. Or even a dozen of couples, He is too powerful He could have done it. That way the Bible wouldn’t have a ridiculous explanation or the people who wrote it.

      • joshmale2004

        That’s what the Bible say. You can ask the Bible scholars on your doubts.

    • batangpaslit

      It is the Scriptures that told the readers that “truth shall set us free”. The Begotten Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ is the Truth.
      If and when Christ is known to man, the other teachings about the Second Coming, Judgment, and Hell shall easily follow.

      Science is not the absolute truth. In fact on several occasions, science, has to correct itself.
      What happened to Planet Pluto?
      Today, science is further investigating the “truth” about the “fact” that the Earth and other plants in the Milky Way is revolving around the sun.
      There are ongoing studies, conducted mostly by physicists, the earth and the other planets are not entirely revolving around the sun.
      Rather, the earth and the other planets move in spiral motion, and the son is moving
      alongside with the earth and with the other planets.
      Moreover, with the advent of powerful telescopes there is excitement among the scientific community (astronomers) that there is another sun much larger than the sun in the Milky Way.
      The size of the sun in the Milky Way is so huge that one million earths would fit in the sun. Curiously, however, the sun being investigated nowadays by science, is: this newly discovered sun is one billion times bigger than the sun of the Milky Way.
      Science is here to discover GOD’s creation.
      My prayer, is: may GOD would raise more men and women to study science and tell the world how vast ang gigantic GOD’s creation is that no one could measure it, except GOD.

      • tarikan

        All these things wouldn’t have happened through prayers only. Science is progressive theology is stagnant or even retrogressive. People were excommunicated in ancient times for believing that the earth is round. Whaaa!

  • AlexanderAmproz

    When Yahweh had requested in VI BC his wife Ashera and any other God to be kick out from his temple, no more goddess !
    Since then God is a Man, the beginning of every kind of discrimination and rejections of the others.
    Monotheism started II BC fathering The Crusade’s, Inquisition, Communism, Nazism, today Muslim’s rejection by Pilipino’s and Palestinian’ by Israeli…
    Love your Neighbor like yourself was for the Hebrew Tribe only, on wars purpose !

    Polytheist Greek’s had invented among others, Philosophy, Geometry, Geography, Democracy.
    Death penalty was replace by ostracism at IV BC

    • batangpaslit

      Alex, you’re a church historian eh?

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Just read a reliable researcher scholar book,
        up to date with Philology, Linguistic, History, Theology, Archeology,
        name Jean Soler title “Who is God”,
        it’s an essay, a small book(100 pages) probably not yet in English.
        It’s not a Journalist or any thing else, not a kidding book.
        No need to believe anything, but very interesting,
        could be difficult to read for someone with little knowledges and not used to read difficult books.
        Fascinating to understand the last 3000 Years Western World development and the Monotheists religions, Jew’s, Christians and Muslims.

        May I ad, History is our roots, the only way to know where from we come?
        One of the multiple reasons of the pity state of the Philippines,
        almost nobody knowing Philippines History, if you don’t know where you come from, how to know where to go ? In case you don’t know who you are, how to know what to do ? As simple than that !

        History teaching in the Philippines is wrong on colonial purpose !
        Beware, consequences are non fathomable !

      • batangpaslit

        The book you recommend requires hard reading, eh?
        I am into scholarship research. But, if the material is not hepful to me, I don’t relish spending time to devour it.
        Philippine History—I am an earnest student. I am the great grandnephew of the lady warrior, Teresita Magbanua, who earned the moniker as the “Joan of Arc of the Visayas”. Hence, my desire to see the old homeland free from feudal warlords both in the spiritual, economic, and poltical realm.
        You are an intelligent man. You are acquainted with the elements how to resolve problems and the mechanics of decision making.
        Sana mapasama ka sa circulo ng mga thinkers that provides counsel to the one who occupies the seat in Malacanang Palace para naman may direction na ang bayang Pilipinas kung ano at saan ang patutungohan.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Thank’s for the compliment, Best Regards to the forgotten Leon Kilat …

        For the moment P-Noy is the best President Philippines ever had.
        Be patient, wait and see ! 
        Who else did you imagine for the job ?

        It’s a job I will never had accepted, the situation is to messy and Dangerous. At every move. Every corrupt is ready to kill the incumbent. Who is not corrupt outside Panlilio, Padaca, Heidi Mendoza, Leila de Lima, Maria Lourdes Serono and few others.
        To clean the Augeas stall looks impossible without a Major Revolution, EDSA was a CIA gimmick…

  • tamakajan

    As a true leader of the Catholic Faith, he should rally the faithfulls to give to the typhoon victims instead of giving statements without substance. Too many people are suffering right now and all we can have is this from the Cardinal.

    If he can influence the Catholics to give then all those suffering will have their shares.
    Then God will be glorified.

    • batangpaslit

      Expresssions of charity naman Kabayan need not waith for reminders. Dapat, bukal sa puso ang pagbigay.
      Giving charity must not only be confined during CMas Season. Extending help to our neighbours specially the needy ones is a daily undertaking.
      Tama ka!

      • tamakajan

        That is true, but it should be an advantage if he speaks in Christmas time right? You should be aware people are drowning in festivities even now as we write. I believe in leadership, and I know what is needed right now. People are dying or dead already. Emphasize on giving rather than reflecting on what you have already which is your faith. Action is multiple times louder than words. Then God will be glorified.

      • batangpaslit

        Tumpak!
        Faith without works is dead.
        True faith in Christ Jesus is manifested by doing good deeds.
        Somehow, we do not neglect too the reflection of the inspired written Word of God.
        Since you are familiar of the Scriptures, do you recall the sisters Martha and Mary?
        Basahin mo ulit ang Gospels kung ano ang sagot ng Panginoon kay Martha nang nag reklamo si Martha bakit si Mary ay nakikinig lang sa turo ng Panginoon, eh, heto sia naghahanda ng makain nila.
        Man do not live by bread alone.
        Pero tama ka…we respond according to man’s needs.
        But my caveat, is: do not neglect to find time to be with Jesus through meditation and prayer.
        For good works is not the requisite to enter the Kingdom of GOD.
        Faith in Jesus Christ, is.
        Good deeds is the fruit of that faith entrusted to the Saviour.

  • joerizal

    Tama, pero kayong mga pari ang dapat mag-renew ng faith niyo.

    • batangpaslit

      May punto.
      Regardless, however, of the call of Cardinal Tagle, all of us who confess and profess faith in Jesus Christ must examine ourselves too how do we square ourselves before the presence of the Holy GOD.

  • Nelson Dino

    Renewal of Faith? Not so, but renew the teaching of Gospel of Christ. Catholics are teaching wrong Gospel of Christ, how can you have a genuine faith when your are teaching wrong, wrong understanding produces wrong results. “They have a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them. (2 Timothy 3:5)

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      In other words, blind guiding the blind.

      • batangpaslit

        Kaya nga ang daming nadapa at nahulog.
        Our mandate is to pray that the Holy Spirit would grant them illumination when they meditate and study GOD’s inspired written Word.

    • batangpaslit

      Personally, I am glad that many of the parishioners in the Roman Catholic Church are now engaged in Bible Studies.
      I am giving out leather bound Bibles to friends and kin who are active in attending regularly the studies.
      But I leave them the choice where to get spiritual feeding for corporate worship.
      The LORD is sovereign and shall convict the earnest seeker of His face.

    • noyab

       Grow up people, worry about more important things. there is nothing wrong about Christ Divinity, it only bothers the ANTI CHRIST, even Satan knows the GOD will walk the Earth. Satan thought that by killing the Baby, he would overcome GOD…..

      • batangpaslit

        Bro, may sinasabi si Nelson na “more important things” din.
        Nelson’s post is about the purity of doctrine.
        Let us review together what the Book of Hebrews, and Revelation Chapter 17 and examine what the Scriptures say about proper worship of GOD, and how we ought to express our faith—Christian faith.

  • Ronald Diaz

    Tama po kayo dyan Cardinal pero dapat mauna mag renew ng faith ang mga pari dahil nakakasuka at nakakahiya ang mga kabalbalang ginawa nila.. at kung pwd no money involved sa lahat ng transactions sa simbahan tulad na lamang ng baptismal,etc..dahil ang mga mahihirap natin kababayan ay can’t afford na magbayad. Pwd namn voluntary ang pagbigay hindi yun mandated talaga na magbayad. Ang purpose po naman ng simbahan ay para mapalapit tayong mga kristiyano sa panginoon hindi naman po sinabi sa bibliya o nang panginoon na magbayad ang sinuman kung magpapabinyag or magpakasal.
    Kaya tuloy ang mga kristiyano sa panahon ngayon ay napalayo or napahiwalay sa simbahan dahil na rin sa mga busabos at suwail na mga pari at obispo na sangkot sa mga anomalya o kaguluhan.
     

    • batangpaslit

      Ronald, you’re a reformer eh? Good! Carry it on!

    • julymorning

       TALAGA? MAGKANO BA BINYAG? DIBA MGA 50 PESOS LANG ATA? MAGKANO BA HANDA MO SA BINYAG? AABOT NG LIBO LIBO. DUN KANALANG SA IGLESIA NI MANALO, WALA ATANG BAYAD DUN, PERO AUTOMATIC 10 PERCENT KALTAS SA KITA MO BUWAN BUWAN

      • batangpaslit

        the great debate, eh?
        i would say, there ought to be some serious review of the church’s practices be it RCC, or Protestants squared against the Scriptures.

  • boybakal

    Tagle says it’s time for renewal of faith….

    Magbalik loob ka na Pacquiao…naliligaw ka ng landas.
    Ang daang matuwid ay daan papunta sa langit that only the church can give…Catholic Church.

    • batangpaslit

      Boy, the church, cannot offer you an everlasting life. Only the Begotten Son of GOD can offer the way to the heavenlies, who is none other than Jesus Christ.
      Find time to examine the Scriptures and no passage in the Sacret Writings that says otherwise.

      The church—-ekklesia—meaning the “called out” people, is a body of believers, not/not the institution.

      • noyab

         and in particular not the Iglesia Ni Kristo (INK) binago nagin INC…..ok sa racket…

      • batangpaslit

        INC
        letter C stands for?
        paki sirit naman, Bro….hehehe

  • rayumalagi

    I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the Communion of Saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body and life everlasting.
    Thank you Cardinal for your message of Hope and for being our Shepherd on earth
    Merry Christmas po

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

      The catholic church even faked Jesus’ birthday.

      December 25 is the Feast of SATURNalia. Celebrated by Romans centuries before Christ.

      • noyab

        Grow up people, worry about more important things.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        The bible is a tale book from A to Z, believe it or not, no proof existing, as every detailed of that time are quiet well known, mostly by highly reliables Greek’s scholars. 
        Moderne archeology didn’t be able to found any things, the probability to found some tiny elements is thiner than a condom.
        In the Philippines religions are organized on purpose to rape the country while abusing the masses, this since Magellan.

      • julymorning

         GALING MO TOL, ABNOY KA TALAGA!!!

      • batangpaslit

        Alex, how I wish I have the space to share with you that you grossly erred in your assertion that the Scriptures is merely a “tale”.
        Yes, it is a tale, but it is not a tale merely the product as figment of the mind of Greek scholars.
        The Old Testament is not even written in Greek language. No Greek scholar is involved during the time of Moses when he led the people of Israel out from the bondage of Egypt.
        I thought you are scholarly in your views. I thought you are a first rate historian?
        Unfortunately, however, this particular post you indited has no scholarship at all.
        Chuckles…

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Its about the Greek civilization flourishing at the same time of the illiterate Hebrew’s, errant cattle keepers. Totally ignored by the Greek’s as it was a not existent civilization. The Great Salomon Kingdom is pure tale.
        Greek joined the Christian’s XII centuries after Moses Ghost supposed existence.

        No way for me to be a scholar, I am not interested, but basic knowledges is a necessity.
        To read scholar’s book is an enjoyment

      • batangpaslit

        You are right…we have to worry about more important things.
        Somehow, I agree with the statment of Hein regarding the origins of 25 December.
        You can scroll up my reply to Hein concerning this historical fact.

      • batangpaslit

        Hein….you are a historian too, eh?
        You are correct, the 25th of DEC was the pagan celebration of the birth of the god sun.
        When Constantine, the Emperor, when he adopted Christendom as the state religion of Rome, he combined the paganistic ritual offered in honor of the unconquerable sun, with the birthday of the Son.
        When the pagan barbarians in Germany, got converted, they likewise replaced the celebration of their pagan worship to the sun, to the celebrating the Nativity of GOD’s Begotten Son.
        In short, 25 DECEMBER rituals was Christianized.
        Personally, Hein, I do not believe that Jesus Christ was born in wintertime. But, I do not make it a problem of the precise date of the birthday of Jesus.
        He is GOD.
        He has no sense of time.
        What matters to me, is: GOD came and manifested in the form of human being to died on the Cross as Redeemer of humandkind.
        That whosoever believes in Him will not perish, but shall enjoy the eternal life.

    • batangpaslit

      Theologicaly, it is a correct creed. But how come you missed to cite the name of the Begotten Son, and GOD the Father?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    Tagle, clean up your own Backyard first.

    It is full of Unsavory things.

  • batangpaslit

    Faith renewal….I trust, there is purity in the teaching of the Gospel in the so called Christian churches, be it Roman Catholic Church or Protestants, including the Orthodox, Byzantine, Anglicans, Charismatics and Evangelicals.

    There is no mediator between GOD and man who was given authority and power under Heaven and above the Earth, except the name Christ Jesus.

    • AlexanderAmproz

      You can take out the Protestants from the list, as not only  they don’t need any mediators, but are against. That why there where religions wars with the Catholics. It was destroying Vatican business selling paradise.(indulgences business)
      I wouldn’t be surprise if Pilipino Pasteur will be as disgusting as the Catholic Clergy.

      • batangpaslit

        Alex….you are right on the matter about indulgences and having another mediatrix other than the Lord Jesus Christ.
        What gives me dismay about the Protestant movement, is: some denominations opted to sanction same sex marriage.
        Even the Church of England, are split on this issue.
        The Roman Catholic Church erred, the Protestants erred, the Evangelicals erred, the Charismatic and Pentecostals erred—-we all need to end our knees and seek GOD’s pardon and forgiveness.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        For my own I will chose the Greek Mythology, it’s funny, open minded.
        The monotheism generated women exclusion as God is a Male. Its also at the origins of any kind of exclusions generating wars, the Crusade’s, the Reconquista wars, the Religions wars, the colonialism, the communism, the Nazis among others.
        In Europe the Jesus message was turned into, nobody left on the side walks, health care for everybody, free for the indigents.
        For everybody goods Europeans Churches where deserted by locals, replaced by very few Black’s and Asian’s of colonial origins.

        Society morality is thousands time better than the morbid abuses culture in the Philippines.

        I am not concerned by same sex marriage, its less disturbing than the multiples Churches abuses arming the Children’s and gullible’ s.

  • Filpino

    To those who are against bishop Tagle message:

    So many of you won’t need a faith renewal, coz many of you here are already sure of themselves that they are already save for their faith to Jesus. Amen to that, lest we forget what Jesus told to the pharisees, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”

    Kaya kung tingin nyo banal na kayo eh hindi para sa inyo ang sinasabi ni bishop Tagle. Nakakainggit kayo kasi sure na sure na kayo.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TNASVGXZ23VCJWV7KO7WPDIKKI George

      inggitero, tse!

      • batangpaslit

        chuckles…
        George, huwag mo nang pasaringan si Kabayan. Nagsasabi lang sia ng kanyang sentimento.
        hehehe…

    • batangpaslit

      hahaha…

      Bro, take it into the context whatever comment is being said here.
      I fully concur with Cardinal Tagle’s clarion call regarding renewal of faith.
      Hindi lang siguro renewal, kundi dapat ma examine din ang biblical correctness how
      we express our faith, i.e., proper worship, forms of prayer, etcetera.
      I am not Romish in my Christian faith, hence, I do not subscribe to Papacy.
      Nonetheless, although I am not a parishioner of the Roman Catholic Chruch, I do recognize that indeed we Filipinos must revisit our Christian faith if it conforms to what
      the inspired written Word of God says.
      For instance, Bro, I subsribe to the doctrine that there is only one GOD; but, He resides in Three Presons—Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.
      On the otherhand, however, I find it grossply unbiblical to allude Mary, the mother of Jesus, as Mediatrix between GOD and man. For the Scriptures say there is no authority and power under Heaven or above the Earth who can mediate between GOD and man, except Christ Jesus.
      I concur too with the Proestants regarding their theological position against graven images since the Royal Law is explicit that these things is detestable against the sight of GOD.
      But, I detest too the stand of some Protestant Denominations sanctioning same sex marriages.
      GOD mandated humankind to replenish the earth.
      Eh, paano magka anak ang dalawang lalaki kung mag eskrima sila, o ang dalawang babae kung maglaro sila ng pompiyang?
      Yes, let us renew our faith from the perspective and in the light of the Scriptures.
      With the aid of the Holy Spirit to illumine us in standing His inspired written Word, and the intercession of the Living Word, Jesus Christ, I am confident, GOD the Father will honor our contrite and humble prayer offered to His throne of grace.
      Be encouraged Kababayan, I sensed in my spirit, you are a worshipper of GOD, the true Living God.

  • Filpino

    why naman moderator

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    Tagle, bring out your P24,000,000,000.00 in BPI and SanMig shares to help the Poor.
    Open up your Hectares and Hectares of land to the Squatters.

    We do not need your LIP SERVICE.

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