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Bishop warns Roxas Church will make him pay in 2016

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Interior Secretary Manuel Roxas II INQUIRER FILE PHOTO

Interior Secretary Manuel “Mar” Roxas II’ presidential ambition in 2016 could be affected by his active role in pushing for the reproductive health (RH) bill, a Catholic bishop said Tuesday.

Bishop Gabriel Reyes, chairman of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines-Episcopal Commission on Family and Life, said Roxas was one of the administration officials who went to the House of Representatives to ensure that the RH bill was passed.

“The Church is not after political power but it has much influence. We use that influence for the growth of the country (but) Malcañang really fought the Church,” Reyes said at a Church forum in Intramuros, Manila.

“As for Mar, I think it will affect (his presidential ambition) … The Church has much moral influence on our people. Many still believe in the Church. In surveys, the Church has the highest credibility [than] the executive, legislature and judiciary,” Reyes added.

However, the bishop was quick to point out that Catholics should not be “single-issue” voters and should consider a candidate’s competence and incorruptibility.

“One could be anti-RH but he could also be a thief. It will be up to the voters to weigh a candidate’s track record and decide,” Reyes said.

Monsignor Joselito Asis, CBCP secretary general, said the Church was “not after political power” and was just trying to present a spiritual and moral case against the RH bill.

“We just want what is good for the common good. The Church has no pork barrel and no government projects. We can just use persuasion, appeals and so on,” Asis said.

“We are a democratic country. The power really lies with the people in selecting leaders. In this case, it was the legislators who decided,” he added.

What was expected to be a close vote on third reading turned out to be a landslide on Monday for Malacañang and House members pushing for House Bill No. 4244.

From a close vote of 113-104-3 on second reading, the result was an emphatic victory for the pro-RH bloc (133-79-7) on third and final reading.

That means that instead of gathering more votes, the anti-RH group lost a total of 25, mainly because many supporters did not show up.

Roxas, along with Budget Secretary Florencio Abad and Secretary Ricky Carandang, were back at the South Lounge on Monday night as House members were casting their votes on the RH bill.

“Our domain, which was the South Lounge, was again invaded,” Cagayan de Oro Rep. Rufus Rodriguez told the Philippine Daily Inquirer. “We did our best in pushing for amendments, but our best arguments could not marshal enough forces to frustrate the wishes of Malacañang.”

Zambales Rep. Milagros Magsaysay pointed out that Roxas and Abad were “in charge of releasing the pork barrel,” which is formally known as the priority development assistance fund.

“The Catholic Church has no pork barrel to dangle,” she said.

Speaker Feliciano Belmonte defended the presence of Roxas and company, saying that as former House members, “they have the right to be there.”

Belmonte noted that former Sen. Francisco Tatad, a known opponent of the RH bill, also showed up at the Batasan.

“He was also there and we also welcomed him. What he ate was also free, the same as everybody else,” he said.


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Tags: 2013 midterm elections , Bishop Gabriel Reyes , Catholic Church , CBCP , Government , Legislation , Manuel Roxas II , Politics , RH bill


  • jan_piter

    Humirit pa., ilan lang cla, mga pari..

  • quirinomayer

    This means that church will support the corrupt Binay who wants to rule Makati and the country forever. What hypocrisy. Just because the non-corrupt Roxas is pro-RH, they will support the ultimate trapo who is using the money of Makati and the vice presidency to forward his designs on the presidency.

    All of you who will vote for Mar Roxas over the itim na maligno in 2016, vote for this comment. If the Damasos want the 2016 elections an extension of the RH fight, let’s crush them one more time by voting Roxas. 

    • $20722540

      marami pang iba na masmagaling sa dalawang yan na parehong meron bahid

    • 12JEM

       Lacson will more likely be the LP standard bearer in 2016.

      • darwin1125

        Agree!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MZOKC6X7Q52Z4E5VLYNB7GF72Y Kaloy

         Malayo pa 2016. Malabo ang sinasabi mo, pre.

      • http://twitter.com/tcdowitter Eva Torres

        I will vote for roxas

    • Guest

      If there was a referendum on RH bill and over 60% would be in favor of that measure, I can imagine even Socrates Villegas and Jose Palma would get silent.

      Similar with an eventual divorce referendum. RCC lost na in Ireland in 1995 and more recently in Malta in 2011. Both, Ireland and Malta, are staunchly Catholic countries!

    • morale_reform

      In our own little way, let’s make a difference! Let’s educate people around as, as much as we could, NO TO TRAPOS!!! 

      Let’s not mind this bishop, it’s not worth any attention…

  • Albert Einstien

    bishops you are barking on the WRONG tree…it is not his  decision to push RH….you are only weakening your STAND against rh….dont shoot the messenger your eminence… EXORCISE  the devil in rh bill…KILL it by  EXORCISM …( DEVIL’s  LIFE is in YELLOW RIBBON )……..not by empty threats….. : > )

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UCTZZ2WTAQYQYVWQHTIS44SU5M bibiano n

    Bishop  Gabriel Reyes is probably the reincarnation of Bishop Cibo of Genoa who fathered lots of illegitimate children and meddled in politics.

  • $20722540

    hindi naman talagang mananalo yan si roxas…masama ang ugali…meron akong kakilala na naging staff niya sa senate noon alam niya ang gawain ng taong iyan

    • 12JEM

       Malamang si Lacson ang magiging LP standard bearer sa 2016.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XZYL65T5BZ6Z3LQYLXUD3VJL6U Snoopy S

    The Catholic Church here sa PilipInas are corrupt! some of them are worst sa mga hated nating pulitiko..the Church teach moral sa constituents nila but make exceptions sa mga makapangyarihan!..HYPOCRITES!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XZYL65T5BZ6Z3LQYLXUD3VJL6U Snoopy S

    THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!THE CBCP ARE HYPOCRITES! TAX THEM!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WZL7I4LP6OYSNO2HBPRB5ZHBLE sabikonangabaeh

    This is sad… church meddling in government affairs, are we still in hispanic period when church and “prayles” were above and more powerful than the government?? God gave us reasoning power and free will with the former over the latter although often it’s the opposite, lalo na pag gigil na and would just say “bahala na” that leads to children more than the parents can support and provide for. Responsible parenthood often results to irresponsible parenthood so it’s high time RH bill is passed and enforced…….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IGLQQ2TTZF3BAWUHUWLFWVPZDE Vladymir

    The church is resorting to blackmail.They should be the ones to pay.Let them pay tax,they’ve been enjoying for too long.Tax them now.

  • farmerpo

    DUHHH!! With or without the chuch, the Presidential race is a sisyphean task for Mar Roxas. The Church as implied, never had a bearing in politics after DAMASO. Should Mar Roxas lose, this bishop can say, I told you soooo!!!!!  CHOwwww.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    NAG WAWALA NA SI BISHOPS PAG LALABASAN KARAW IPUTOK MO DAW SA LOOB KASALANAN DAW SA KAUTUSAN NG SIMBAHAN KATOLIKO YUNG TINATAKPAN NG GOMA” DAG DAGAN PARAW ANG MGA BLESING NA HUBO SA KARSADA PABILHAN NG DAMIT SA SATANAS NA CARNIVAL TAGLE PAPASUKIN SA CATHOLIC PRIVATE SCHOOL 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    CARNIVAL TAGLE SATANAS!!!

  • dagohoy620

    This so-called bishop is suffering from a religious delusion of grandeur!!  He thinks there IS a Catholic vote.  He will be hopelessly disappointed… and disillusioned!

    In 1992, some of these Catholic bishops said Gen. Fidel Ramos, being a non-Catholic, will not win when he ran for president in 1992. Gen. Ramos won anyway, and the bishops had eggs on their collective faces!

  • Sid Marcel

    Go down the drain bishops. The time has come. The good thing is that I can still retain my faith to God while I look at you sidelined.

  • Sid Marcel

    These bishops are just lucky they dont get elected by the people. It would have been interesting to see where they go.

  • redpula

    back off, this clergyman thinks he still living in the spanish era, the most vicious arsenal they’ve used before was the excommunication, now they dare not to unsheathe this weapon because unlike before there thousands of churches who are willing to compete with them, even the cbcp knew this fact.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/H2CTKBP4RJETKPIEJLQ4L4QAPU joush charlie f. jirch

    . . . the Bishops thinks that they can still sway the Filipinos . . . .  no more Bishops . . . . by the way you have collected so much money from the faithful but not a single peso was given to the victims of typhoon Pablo . . . .  we never see you vist this places in Mindanao. . . you are all occuopied in Philippine pollitics . . .  you are interfering the the affairs of our Government you belong to the Neo Fascist Damaso’s . . . . TAX THE CATHOLIC RUN CHURCHES AND SCHOOLS . . . .

  • Garo Ungaro

    The separations between the church in the state has been breached…again, we will be witnessing a 15th century politics, when the church was the state and the state was the church…this is the 21st century…but it remains, that there are people whos faiths, beliefs, principles and personal egos…will resort to this medieval politics…remember; religion and politics does not mixed. its like oil and water…the people will suffer..regardless.the people will always be the victim, when religion and politics…plays…

  • Kaka

    Bishop, you are so full of bull! This is about the most arrogant statement any bishop could ever give.

    • antiscam

       And to think that the Bishops preach and procalim humility hahaha. THE ULTIMATE AND EVER ENDURING WORD FOR OUR BISHOPS IS H Y P O C R I SY…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NLO2AAP3EKVA2H3FI2AM2KTGAA Jay

    Ano ba yan Bishop Gabriel.matagal pa ang 2016.isipin niyo ang ngayon.kung ano ang maitutulong ng simnbahan para sa ikakabuti ng bayan.nasa isip niyo Paghihiganti na.relax lang kayo.

  • picker_blend

    with that statement, your excellency(?), i join the clamor that the catholic church be levied taxes. your statements smacks of politicking; and that is in the realm of caesar. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TRUL7WO4HJPGNVCKIHP4PTZGX4 Mark

    Dont worry Mr. Mar Roxas, If you continue to work hard for the people and continue the reforms started by PNoy, I will vote you!

    • Guest

       1 vote out of the about potentially 60 million. =)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PRDGZHO73F5SCBMJO3BGCPXR6E Nilo C

    Ang mga Obpispo na ito ay magaling lang sa Salita at Wala naman sa Gawa.

    “We use that influence for the growth of the country”. Anong klasing tulong??????

  • JOSE RIZAL

    what are they? devils?

  • mnlmad

    The church should stop meddling in state affairs! Shut-up bishops!

  • RONNIE858

    Hindi ba puwedeng patigilin ang pakikialam ng church sa state? kung hindi, dapat taxable na rin lahat ng kita nila, fair enough, right?

    • ricomambo

      absolutely.

  • Hey_Dudes

    I agree with many bloggers that time has come for congress of the Philippine to initiate process in which it can begin levying tax to churches in general, the catholic church in particular.  Obviously, in the recent weeks, bishops in the country have shown the caliber of their shamelessness – others demonstrating what a demon is capable off rather than being holy.

    These bishops are way out of control and threatening politicians of consequences due to issues dear to them have not been supported is almost bordering on threat to life.  Start taxing this church and anyone making threats should be made to taste life in jail.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    Pork Barrel?  Why did the Bishops not also attack GMA for using the pork barrel to bribe the Congress to block her impeachment?  Mar Roxas needs not be afraid of the Catholic Church.  If other congressmen and senators were not afraid of going against the Catholic Church as the next year’s election approached, why would Roxas?

  • otepau68

    The church is suppose to be apolitical. But look at its leaders, campaigning years ahead. Soon they will prophecies burning in hell for RH bill supporters. No wonder it is losing members & friends left & right. Their effort is better channeled to the assistance, guidance & recovery of those in the south in this much needed time. That would be ‘more christian”.

  • Luthmar

    Bishop Reyes is like China – a bully.  Vindictive as well.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7IGQYIPU6AFTVRJ742XT2X44M4 Jef

    “As for Mar, I think it will affect (his presidential ambition) … The Church has much moral influence on our people. Many still believe in the Church. In surveys, the Church has the highest credibility [than] the executive, legislature and judiciary,” Reyes added. shut up bishop pati pa naman kalayaan kung bumoto ng gusto ko pakikialaman nyo….wala na ba kayong magawa sa buhay no bilang bishop ibahagi salita ng diyos lahat na lang pakikialaman nyo….tuloy nawawala gana kung magsimba minsan sa sermon may kasamang pulitika nakakadismaya….dahil sa mga priest at bishop….SHAME ON YOU

    • jr18496

      I use to believe in these Priest but not anymore. why don’t they go after those politicians who stole money from the country like the Estrada’s, the Enrile’s, the Singson’s. the Marcoses and the Binay’s ! Rather that go after those who are trying to make the country  a better place to live for the majority of the filipinos.

  • boybakal

    Bishops are just speaking from the heart and spirit. I said so because the holy spirit is their guidance for truth.
    Don’t get mad at Bishops, they are there to protect us, for our own good.

    RH Bill contraceptives are what they are against at…imagine the horrible effect of this pill.
    We are already a country of ugly people, we don’t want another deformity.

    Praise to all Priests and Bishops and Peace to those who are agaisnt the church……
    With your Spirit.

    • jr18496

      The Bishops and Priest would rather have a thief and womanizer and killer ( like Estrada, Enrile, Binay )to become the President of the Philippines rather than a decent person like Roxas and Pinoy. No wonder the philippines is screwed up.

    • RONNIE858

      RH Bill is just an option, its a tool that people may or may not follow dependeng on their discretion. Like taking pills, if you think its bad for you, then don’t take it. Think of other alternatives in place of pills. Di ka naman papayin kung dika mag pills eh.

    • brunogiordano

      BAkit ‘yong mga dasal at prayer rallies nila kasama ang kanilang mga alipin ay hindi DININIG?????

    • panhase

       The Bishops “are there to protect us”? Who told you that?
      Do you think they are some supreme force to lord over the mere stupid people?
      Do you think they are better then us plain mortals?
      They are men, just men, nothing more and nothing less. Just plain men.
      They do not have special powers, they do not have special connections to God.
      They are plain and simple just men.

  • hosay

     Mar Roxas will not win in 2016 election. He is a secret Gloria puppet.

    • brunogiordano

      Liar, liar pants on fire!!!!!

    • ricomambo

      prove it.

  • mabyrik

    Because bishops have either short memory or just plain stu pid or both, they are now threatening Mar Roxas of losing in 2016 election.

    These bishops have totally forgotten that many years ago, they campaigned very aggressively against Flavier in senate and erap in presidency. Because these bishops campaign so hard against them, Flavier and erap won convincingly. Flavier was in the top 6 and was never in danger of losing while erap won by a landslide over de venecia, their candidate.

    That alone showed that the catholic vote is zilch, nada, zero, effect and no factor in the election.

    Today, with still 3.5 years away from the next presidential election, Binay is perceived to be the next president because he is the only person who opened-up. As VP, he also gets very high rating, just like GMA, de castro when they were VP. By tradition, VP always gets higher rating than the president. Binay, in due time will realize that he will not be up there all the time.

    Roxas stars will soar as the next election nears and inversely, binay will dive if roxas should play the game correctly. Villar found that out. He was leading the surveys by a mile over the other pretenders for years when, out of the blue, Pnoy’s name came from nowhere and like a shooting star, made the voters awed and villar was left scratching his head in disbelief.

    AS election nears, so many skeleton in binay’s closet will sneak out. He will have to answer questions on how he acquired billions during his +20 years as mayor of makati.
    Even if  Villar’s wealth was legally acquired through his businesses, and yet the people doubted it and he was rejected in the nick of time. On the other hand, Binay has a lot of explaining to do. Villar’s case was the lesson that binay has to solve this early.

    Roxas will definitely shame the bishops again in 2016, the same embarrassment the bishops has to endure while fighting hopelessly against RH.    

    It is my wish that the bishops to aggressively campaign against Roxas and to support Binay to ensure Roxas victory. Bishops’ support is like a kiss of death.
     

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/55XNXOYBNF6BG3EWOM5V4YMWXM Pedro

    Yes Bishop Gabriel  Reyes, you are right. There are so many Anti-RH  politicians who are THIEVES !  I agree with you 100%. They  are anti-RH  because they just want to get the Catholic votes as endorsed by the men of God so that  they can win in the elections and continue stealing. . 

  • jr18496

    You can pray by yourself or with your love ones! You don’t need to go to the church and pray with these stupid Priest who are screwing up the country!!!

  • ryan andres

    After trying everything, they have now resorted to political threats. What’s next, esteemed bishops? Fire-and-Brimstone threats? Wouldn’t be surprising.

    All you phallic loving bishops and priests, it will serve you well to keep in mind that your “flock” is not mindless. They are no longer ignorant. Which means they will not listen to what you tell them to do, if they do not want to do it.

    So you can tell your flock NOT to vote for Roxas, or for anyone who doesn’t give you SUVs. By 2016, your mortal sin of exalting yourselves WAY above your own god would have caught up with you already, and you will lose all your worldly influence.

    Your reign of ignorance is almost over. Now go  f u c k  yourselves, while you still have the chance. Oh wait, you prefer little boys, I almost forgot…

  • sidewalkbenhur

    katoliko ako pero ang simbahan ay hindi nakikialam sa pagpapatakbo nang bansa period…maraming problema ang lipunan iyon ang dapat pagtuonan nang pansin 

  • ryan andres

    Romans 12:19

    Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”

    Considering am not catholic nor christian, it should shame you, Bishop Reyes, that a non-believer like me would know more than you do about your scriptures.

    …and you say you will make him pay in 2016… shame, shame…shame on you.

  • lapasan

    What Bishop Reyes is doing is engaging in indirect partisan politics. Although it is right for church religious leaders to criticize government policies that involve moral issue, to imply that a certain candidate will pay for contradicting the church in a certain issue is a different story. The bishop is promoting a rift between those people who are anti and pro RH bill. The bishop should set a good example to the faithful by graciously accepting that RH bill is acceptable to the lawmakers and the people although that issue is not to the bishop’s liking. I believe that the Catholics has not diminished their faith. But this Bishop Reyes keeps on opening his mouth and makes this issue bigger.

    • AlexanderAmproz

      They never set any good example in 450 years, why now ?
      If Mar Roxas get elected it should be for himself considerations, 
      not for an Arroyo disgusting envelops style !

  • brunogiordano

    “Monsignor Joselito Asis, CBCP secretary general, said the Church was “not after political power” and was just trying to present a spiritual and moral case against the RH bill.”

    TAMA!!!

    Hinayaan kayong I-present ang inyong spiritual at moral case against the RH bill at Sa katotohanan walang puknat kayo na nanalangin laban dito.

    RESULTA –

    TALO kayo dahil hindi naniwala sa inyong mga kasinungaligan mga inilahad.

    At ‘yong mga dasal ninyo kasama ang inyong mga alipin ay

    HINDI DININIG.

    HIHIRIT PA RIN KAYO????

    BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME sa DIVORCE BILL.

    See next year.

    • ddano

       
      wala kasi silang pajeros galing kay P-Noy.

  • brunogiordano

    “As for Mar, I think it will affect (his presidential ambition) … The Church has much moral influence on our people. Many still believe in the Church.”

    Very PRESUMPTOUS!!!!!

    Sa Pinagdadasalan ninyo hindi na kayo DINIDINIG, bakit pa kami maniniwala sa inyo??????

  • OleSapra aka ARGUS

    MAKE THEM BURN WITH SHAME

    ANA: “Ang sabi sa scripture – (If your enemies are HUNGRY, feed them; if they are THIRSTY, give them a drink; for by doing this you will make them burn with shame). Romans 12:20″  

    LISA: “Ay naku, ganyan mismo ang taktika sa politika. Ang mga GUTOM at UHAW sa pork barrel eh BINUSOG nina Sec Mar, Sec Florencio at Sec Ricky. Eh bakit napipikon ang obese po ng Antipolo?”

    CION: “Pa’no, ‘yung dating mga politikong suwail at KAAWAY ng RH bill eh bumoto ng YES porke natighaw ang gutom at uhaw nila ng mabudburan sila ng pork barrel. Huwag kang makisawsaw sa politika, obese po Reyes, oke?” 

  • Bengatibo

    The Church have moral influence of the Catholics but DOES NOT HAVE political influence on the Filipinos. Many believe in the Catholic Church because of their faith but MANY does not believe in Padre Damaso because of his meddling in politics!!! Maingay si Padre Damaso, kulang ang donation, wala pang mga SUV’s.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ned.naville Ned Naville

    I hope they see that it is not about the Church but it is all about truth and reality . . . which is more destructive to society, in the long run.

  • ddano

    These BSyaps think they still have moral ascendancy over the people. They’re insulting the intelligence of the Filipino voters.

  • Garo Ungaro

    it would be better if the government will in act a bill that would put the church to pay their fair share on TAXES…the church is one of the riches institution in the world…the Vatican.
    here, in the Philippines the church remains as the riches…free of taxes and yet makes more profits in their proxy investments in all sector of businesses. the large some of money deposited in several banks here and abroad,  the vast tracks of lands and properties, businesses…owned and being operated under the name of the church…most of them acquired from the donations of the old faithfuls…long time ago and until now…if the government, will work on this. it will be a big help the money generated from this taxes will be use to help and alleviate the poor..the people are paying double taxation…from the government as mandated by law and the taxed earnings some are being donated to the church…by the people. maybe,its high time..that this churches must pay their fair share …they benefited more from the people..in the name of GOD…as, they want to have a say on the government business…then they should pay their fair share….

    • johndcross1

      Amen to that!

  • AlexanderAmproz

    Bishop’s should sit on a hot 200 watts lamps and run away straight to the hell to liberate the country from their too, too long abusive presence.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CFZ2Q7RFJ6PWRYMM3NJ7JB4KSE Dynamic

    “The church is not after power but moral influence for the growth of the country and it’s people,has the highest credibility towards any form of government”.This is a very good statement that was made.My question is why can’t they apply it to their own selves first before others.Practice what’s being preached by you first and I’ll be behind you.

    • AlexanderAmproz

      they never did it, why do they will start now ?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/CFZ2Q7RFJ6PWRYMM3NJ7JB4KSE Dynamic

        They’ll be left behind with-out being enlightened.The light of God never fails,but if you fail him,it’s not his problem.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/AX7A65HBPOATKIEDV77LOLRVUM Colokoy

      hindi ka roman catholic, sa dami ng mga katolikong pare yong sinsabi mo ay 0.01 percent lng cguro. lahat ba ng mga pastors ninyo walang kasalanan. attend ka ng simbang gabi makikita mo marami pa rin ang nagsisimba. walang itinuturong mali ang pare sa roman catholic church hindi nila pinipilit kung magkano ibibigay mo.. bakit sa dami ng mga born again daw ang kinoconvince mga r catholics?. ang lahi ni kristo  magmula kay david ay hindi lahat  banal..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/CFZ2Q7RFJ6PWRYMM3NJ7JB4KSE Dynamic

        I was once a catholic because of parental influence,now that I found other teachings(missing links of the Bible),I have no doubts,but simply to renouce it.Christ means Light,Buddha means Light.When you say Jesus the Christ it means Jesus the enlightened one as to Gautama the Buddha, as Christ Krishna.Christian means Christ in action.Christianity means Christ I Am ity,Christed ones means illumined ones of God.
        You can be one like them by know how and illumination.

  • BruinBearDad

    Our Catholic leaders are still stuck in Padre Damaso’s time.   While the country is wallowing in filth and poverty because of corruption, it is also because of runaway population growth. The poor people have 2-10 children when they cannot even ill afford to have one.  This is another way of subjugation of the people. 

    • johndcross1

      You are right there.  The church thrives on the misery of the people.  It is misery that justifies their existence.

      • http://twitter.com/erncastillo ern

        Tama yan. Look at pacquiao,  when he already had too much money….he moved out to join another religion or ministry to seek influence which he cannot get from the catholic church. Kung pwede lang siyang maging bishop or pope….he could buy it.

        Ang mayayaman ba pumupunta sa maliliit na simbahan na walang parking space o mall na malapit?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MZWVVOOCSIDTIEAVGDDBAXN6K4 Jim

    Nanakot na naman ang mga Padre Damaso. Dapat yata imulat ng mga matandang ito na hindi nila hawak ang pag-iisip ng sambayanang Pilipino. Bawasan nila ang kapal ng balat nila para makita na ang ebidensiya nito eh ang pag-approve sa RH Bill at sa pag-sangayon ng karamihan dito. Mga Padre Damaso, matagal na po wala ang mga Kastila dito sa Pilipinas…

  • $29897073

    Simple lang iyan,,, Pajero ang katapat!!! hehehehe… Well Mr. Reyes lumaban ka sa elections in 2013 ilatag mo ang iyong plataforma sa sambayanan at sila na ang bahala. Huwag mong gamitin ang abito para takutin ang mga gustong maglingkod sa bayan – komo hindi sila sangayon sa imo ay nagtethreat ka pa diyan…. Manong hubarin mo ang iyong abito at gawin ang ginawa ni Bro. Ed Panlilio.

  • boomvilla

    asan na po ang mga libreng condom? akala ko pasado na yang rh bill na yan. e bat hanggang ngayon wala pa ri libreng condom?

    • http://twitter.com/erncastillo ern

      may pang internet ka, baka naka smartphone ka pa. Hindi ka kasama sa mga libre. Bumili ka kung kailangan mo. Dati naman nabibili yan kahit saan…bakit ngayon lang nag-ingay ang simbahan?

  • pcosmachine

    This press release by Mitsubishop Reyes has just exposed both his stupidity and arrogance.

    First, If the Catholic Church has moral influence on its people, how come they were not able to morally influence the 133 Congressmen and 13 Senators who had the backing of 80% of Filipinos to vote against the RH bill.

    Second, you have no right to talk about morals when your own Church members accept bribes, commit adultery, molest young girls and boys, father children, view and collect pornographic materials, meddle in the affairs of the State, and deceive or lie to the Filipino people.

    Your control over the Filipino people is gone!

  • brunogiordano

    “The Catholic Church has no pork barrel to dangle,” she said.

    Maraming INDULGENCIA na benebenta ang simbahan na mamahalin, bakit hindi ito ipinamigay ng libre ito sa mga congressmen?

    Lalo na ‘yon best seller na INDULGENCIA na benebenta ni JOHANN TETZEL.

  • Ceazar

    Why does the Catholic Church have so many stupid bishops?
    Is stupidity one of the qualities required to become a bishop?

  • johndcross1

    “The Church has much moral influence on our people. Many still believe in the Church. In surveys, the Church has the highest credibility [than] the executive, legislature and judiciary,” Reyes added. ”

    Is that true?  Bishop Reyes you must be dreaming or hallucinating.  We, the Filipino people will be the final arbiter as to whom we will vote!  IT IS NOT THE CATHOLIC CBCP OR IGLESIA NI CRISTO!  WE, THE FILIPINO PEOPLE WILL HAVE THE FINAL SAY! NOT YOU BISHOP REYES OR YOUR ALIPORES!

    Your claim that you have the “highest credibility” is a SHAM.  People losses their trust on you because of your continued & unwelcome interference in government affair.  So shut the fuuck up!This is no longer the era of Padre Damaso!

  • johndcross1

    If you believe that your credibility is excellent, how come GOD did not listen to your prayers not to pass the RH bill?  Why, because you don’t have credibility at all even with GOD.  If GOD don’t listen to you, how can we ordinary mortals listen to you?

    Your credibility Bishop Reyes to the Filipino people is ZILCH, NADA, ZERO.  Adios Padre Damaso, you don’t scare & abuse us anymore!

  • lucidlynx

    Is being vengeful NOT the Christian way?

  • lucidlynx

    Turn the other cheek dapat di ba?

  • jElly_aCe

    anu kya ang quality of lyf na kayang i offer ng catholic church sa mga batang isisilang ng walang choice pumili ng magulang at stado ng pamumuhay? kung tlagang for d common gud ang pnaglalaban nila, bt nde cla kimikilos pra mapaunlad ang knabukasan ng mga btang lansangan, nagpapalimos sa kalye at end up nila , nag rugby at kwatan na nagiging prob ng lipunan. mga btang maaga pa nag prosti, mga students na kulang na kulang sa classrums, books at comp. mga batang may bitbit na infant sa kalye at kumakatok sa car, at sandamakmak na mga bata na halos ni machine gun ang damit dhil butas butas na, pudpud na tsinelas at halos wla makain sa squatters area. sna ung contribution nkukuha nyo sa church ung sa offerings.. y not ipunin at ipatayo ng center or classrums man lmang pra ma feel nmen ang common gud na cnasabe nyo

  • regd

    There is a survey about the church’s credibility? WHERE IS IT?

  • dickenhead

    “the church has much influence”  do you believe this BS? why don’t you go to edsa call for a people power so we’ll see how much influence you got

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TCQMRK4HVOSF2IGML46TAGKMXU Benjamin

    I am a Catholic but I am ashamed to profess my religion because of priest like him. I seldom go to church (maybe 2 times in a year) but I do my praying at home, alone outside of the church’s limelight and heretic sounds. I am planning to transfer to another religion because I find this religion so political and corrupt. Catholicism now is one of the worst religions in the world, and probably even blow Islam. Here in the U.S., the church does not meddle in government and does not influence politicians in their judgment. This is not what Jesus Christ taught us in the Bible. He mentioned the words “Give to Caesar what is to Caesar” means let the government do its job and do not interfere. The CBCP is one of the most corrupt organizations in the world now. What a pity!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D37WZ2JMEQUZR4QG74FRVXUJFQ John

      in the U.S., the church does not meddle in government and does not influence politicians in their judgment because in the US when a religious organizatiion meddle in political affairs, they will lose their tax free incentives..

  • ruben_bush

    The catholic vote is a myth…. it is nothing but hogwash!!!  When the catholic church told the people not to vote for Ramos because he was a Protestant, Ramos won.  When they discouraged voters to vote for Erap because he was a womanizer, gambler, and a drunk, Erap won by a landslide vote.  So, I think if the catholic church campaigns against Roxas, he will win more votes. 

    • antiscam

       KOREK KA DYAN!!!

  • Ommm

    What happened to “turn the other cheek”?? ……

  • brunogiordano

    “In surveys, the Church has the highest credibility [than] the executive, legislature and judiciary,” Reyes added.”

    TAMA!!!!

    Iyong CHURCH.

    Hindi ang mga pari, OBISPO, at CARDINAL.

    At lalong walang credibility ang mga kapanalig ninyong mga kandidato.

    Sa ngayon ang credibility ninyo sa taong bayan ay NEGATIVE ZERO.

  • willbillywilly

    To the Catholic Church. Please do campaign against Roxas for Im sure he will end up will all the votes of the pro RH bill Filipinos.

    • agaylaya

      I am Catholic, I am anti RH and have been involved with PPCRV in the past but I am against any co called Catholic vote or any movement to vote for or against any candidate. This is divisive and will eventually destroy the Church. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FKE56ZWNI2XKEVVLZQGRWG7WBI BURADOR—Phil. Voice

    BISHOPS are POINTING GUN left and RIGHT to PROTECT their OWN DAMASSO INTEREST—-This INTEREST will BACKFIRE—

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UMWOE42657PJ5HVI5OUQ74VAB4 Albert, Jr.

    We live in a democratic world, and scare tactics is of a Medieval Era. Are the leaders of our Church forgetting who executed THE ORDERS TO crucify JESUS CHRIST. This is the season to celebrate the BIRTH OF OUR SAVIOR, HOLY CHRISTMAS AND A PEACEFUL NEW YEAR TO ALL. 

  • dukaponte

    Hindi dapat mag-alala si Roxas dahil ang RH law ay ang pinakamagandang nangyari sa Pinas. Umpisa na ito sa asenso ng Pinas. Maraming tao ang makikinabang sa bandang huli. Siguro mga 3 years from now basta hindi ito mapigilan ng Supreme Court, gaganda ang buhay ng mga mahihirap dahil hindi na dadami ang anak nila. Maraming tao ang gaganda ang pagiisip dahil gagaqan ang pakiramdam nila. Alam niyo, ang kawalan ng pera at problema sa pagkain ay nagkakaroon ng mabigat na pakiramdam sa tao. Nagiging violente.

  • ardong

    A threat? Vindictive posture by no less than a prelate? Is this the kind of message he would preach among his flock (if ever there is still loyal members)? Can he be more magnanimous instead by asking the people to simply pray for it’s smooth implementation rather than evoke hatred and animosity towards our leaders? It’s the primary reason why catholicism is declining in this country. Why not give what is duly for Caesar? This priest is simply a fool!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

    Well, they were probably going to support Binay anyway, as he’d have been more likely to supply them Pajeros.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Paolo-Hernandez/100001326302694 Paolo Hernandez

    I SUPPORT AQUINO AND ROXAS!
    The Catholic Church said, the Church has the highest credibility [than] the executive, legislature and judiciary,…..ARE YOU SURE FR. REYES? SIGURO NUON ang simbahan ang may mataas na kredibilidad pero hindi na ngayon…..MAHILIG NGA KAYONG MGA OBISPO TUMANGGAP NG MGA PAJERO….MAHILIG DIN KAYONG TUMANGGAP NG DONASYONG PERA NA GALING SA JUETENG….kredibilidad ba ang tawag dyan? MAHIYA KAYO MGA OBISPO….Mga DAMASO kayo! ang mga pari at obispo ay walang pinagkaiba sa mga EPOKRITO!——-isa akong Katoliko.

  • Hey_Dudes

    Does it appear to you these bishops are becoming –  unquestionably desperate, unreasonable almost to the point of going berserk?

    • wakats

      Pope Benedict should pay a visit to the PH and repair the damage, if still reversible, done by the bishops on the millions of catholic flocks who become dis-oriented and confused on the uncalled-for antics of the prelates.

      The sooner the better. 

      • AlexanderAmproz

        450 years old habit will never die, how much more for the Dirty one ?

  • miiron

    @#$%^ talaga obispo na to!  comparing adam lanza, the connecticut killer, sa RH Bill is simply immoral and uncalled for. kung  pwede lang i impeach ang mga @#$%^ obispo at mga pari!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XALR35ENV2XKV327BZGZ7Q5Z5Q Ernesto

    mga walang kwenta ang mga bishop sa atin bansa,wala man lang may naitulong,dapat pumunta kayo sa COMVAL. daming nangangailangan doon kaysa lagi gobyerno ang kinokontra nyo .bwesit

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TG6376QWY2PDLJ4RYWT3TF23T4 noel

    ano ba naman talaga itong mga obispo at pari, noong panahon ni Gloria na grabe ang corruption ang walang kaingay ingay dahil nakikinabang, ngayong may magandang ginagawa panay ang reklamo, nakaka sira sila sa mga katoliko ako tuloy d na nag sisimba, sino ang gustong suportahan ng obispo at pari si Binay na dating mahirap, ngayon dahil sa pag nanakaw naging bilyonario. ang buhay nga naman

  • Joaquin Fernandez

    This would certainly raise the popularity of Roxas. Unlike INK, Catholic hierarchy does not command such obedience among its flock because Catholics are more discerning and use more of their conscience and brains.

    • joshmale2004

      Mjority of catholics know well the separation of church and state. They know how to balance their religious and political beliefs.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/D6JG2WOEGIDUZ5WFOU5X7LCCQQ Gary V

    Some of these bishops are inconsistent.  When the vote was close during the 2nd reading, they said it was the voice of the people through the legislators.  But after the third reading and they were overwhelmingly outvoted it was just the voice of legislators.

    • joshmale2004

      Because they are protecting their personal interests and their catholic doctrine and not the interest of God.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/L3OTOGACZFETL54S4T3E2KUAYY Jessie

    Next pass divorce bill
    Dont listen to Hypocrites Padre Damaso·s

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AIPSCQM2TZQUMQ5GEIMWMWDFL4 Edward Solilap

    There’s no point talking for democracy when you are threatening Mr. Mar Roxas for a revence comes 2016 election. If the Bishop has Pork Barrel to spend they would spend it as well to bribe somebody? what a shame huh Ms Rep. Mitos Magsaysay. If you have time to vissit Barcelona Spain see by yourself how many people there goes to catholic churches daily it’s almost empty.

  • agaylaya

    I am anti RH, I am a Catholic but I will not vote for anyone on the say so of a Bishop, including the Pope. Make your case Bishop and I will think about it. I re read the news article but I did not read anything there which says that the Church will make Roxas pay in 2016. Another case of an overzealous reporter making misleading headlines?

  • tweakthor

    Bishop Reyes – “One could be anti-RH but he could also be a thief. It will be up to the voters to weigh a candidate’s track record and decide”

    Namomolitika ka naman!!!!  hehheee …..  sa una pinatamaan mo si Roxas ….. pero sabay kabig at pinatamaan mo si Bny?  hehheeeee

    Siguro ang i-examine ninyo bishop ay bakit all the surveys favor the passage of the RH bill.  Is there something inherently wrong with the Church’s position that most Catholics reject it? My personal opinion is … masyadong medieval ang position ng Church.  These churchmen have totally closed their eyes to the plight of the poor, especially the women and children who are the victims aggravated by the position the church has taken. 

  • millie55

    nattering nabobs of negativity

  • VicenteBoticol

    Does anyone believe our Homosexual and Pedophile Bishops who roam around in expensive SUVs and live in luxurious mansions while Most Pinoys live beside esteros,under the bridge,beside garbage dumps and even in cemeteries?  

  • justjarred

    Lakas manakot ni bishop a! Tumakbo ka na din kaya sa 2013?

  • joshmale2004

    Majority of catholics as well as other christian faith knows well the separation of church and state. They are matured enough to balance their political and religious beliefs.

  • Ramil Abalon

    ito yung taga simbahin na sobra pa ang asal sa demonyo…ang church leaders ay dapat pinagmulan ng magandang  asal, dahil sila ang taga ugnay sa panginoon…at maka dyos pero sila pa ang maka demonyo…di ba kung mananakot ka, asal demonyo…ka…Jesus Lord, forgive this prelates because they do not know what they are doing….ang hopefully MAR will succeed in his bid….ha ha ha kung si satanas ang tatakbo malamang iboboto pa nang mga obispo…calling the POPE to advice these bishops to stay away from politics….ha ha ha kung maka Diyos ang mga obispo na nyan hindi RH ang inaatupag kundi…tulong sa new bataan…how mahiya kayoooooooooo…..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Paolo-Hernandez/100001326302694 Paolo Hernandez

    Nag alboroto ang mga puwet ng mga Obispo kasi hindi sila sinali sa PORK BARREL…Dapat hapi rin sila.

  • glg_ph

    first his accusation of bribery from malacanang, and now threatening someone who has not even filed his candidacy with the presidential election still too far ahead.  for the sake of his argument, if the rh bill will not be signed into a law by pnoy, will this bishop be the campaign manager of roxas and assure his victory in 2016?

  • bgcorg

    The point is not that Sen. Tatad was there or that Mar Roxas and Butch Abad were formerly members of Congress.  The point is that the latter are now members of the Executive and hold the power over the release or suspension of the pork barrel. 

    • pej1972

      If the Church presence is welcome, then the Executive has the right REASON for them to be in the Congress and push the Administration agenda!!!!!

  • tra6Gpeche

    Don’t worry, Secretary Roxas. You are serving the majority of the Filipino People and not the Philippine Catholic Church. The Philippine Catholic Church should not go against the majority of the Filipinos. If the Church insist on their threats and dictatorial tendencies, pretty soon, it will have no more parishioner.

  • http://twitter.com/greenherrings Juan Dela Cruz

    These Bishops complain about taxes being spent on the RHBill. I’m tired of OUR taxes being spent to fund their political campaigns. The time has come to remove their tax exempt status. Seriously. 

  • joshmale2004

    It is biased for the church to say that the decisive victory of the RH Bill in the 3rd reading is caused by Malacanang. If bishops can presume these things, I also have the right to presume that the 104 no votes on 2nd reading was due to the presence of Bishops who were writing the names of solons who are voting yes. Due to this pressure that the NO votes gathered 104. But in terms of conviction, I am sure many of those solons who voted no can be presumed “NAPILITAN LANG DAHIL SA PRESENCE NG MGA PARI”. This was more evident when the 3rd reading came. Almost 1/3 of the congressmen who voted NO in the 2nd reading opted to absent themselves to avoid the wrath of the bishops. They know that yes will win even without their yes votes so the best way is to go absent.

  • Hfxwst

    I agree – it is time the tax exempt status f the Catholic Church be removed.  They own far too much land to be termed a charity.  Their investments alone make them one of the wealthiest corporations in SE Asia.  

    Ever see a hungry Bishop?  Nope, but have seen plenty of hungry children.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3FKARYE4FOLSWHNRCBKPN246RE carmelo

      i-tax din ang Iglesia ni Cristo!! ang yaman2x na nila Manalo! =)

  • joshmale2004

    The Catholic Church is hell bent on creating trouble on the RH Bill and Pnoy. Now they are threatening supporters of RH Bill come election time. Sotto doing everything to block enactment of the Bill. Enrile having personal fight with Miriam, proponent of RH Bill, Mitos Magsaysay openly  supporting the Church’s position, Erap (known playboy in early years) very silent on RH Bill, Binay not siding nor commenting on RH Bill, Son of Enrile voting yes to balance the political clout of Enrile. What is the significance of these events and personalities mentioned? It seems UNA and the CBCP have already forged an alliance for the 2013 election.

    • Edward Castro

      as usual si binay laging play safe opting to be silent on controversial issues.. i respect people who are committed on certain issues whether pro or against.  the most hateful thing is someone trying to play both sides.. manipulative, deceptive, cunning..etc. never trust those people. they are like venomous snakes without any antidote…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Paolo-Hernandez/100001326302694 Paolo Hernandez

    I SUPPORT P-NOY and ROXAS! 

  • wawangpenoy

    Utang na loob mga obispo. SO MUCH FOR THE DIVIDE AND CONQUER BS. Move on and just tell your flocks to accept the verdict gracefully and if there’s anything in the law that you do not want your flocks to practice, just communicate (not threaten with eternal damnation) it to them thru weekly sermons, and please, thruthfully without disinformation and distortions. ACCEPT THE FACT THAT YOU ARE NOW IRRELEVANT IN THIS SOCIETY. There are now a lot of free-thinker Filipinos who are God believers but are sick and tired of your lies and deceptions.

    For once, practice what you preach. A true Christian will not dwell on sour-graping and will gracefully accept the rule of the majority (catholic majority that is. if you doubt this, dig into the surveys on RHB). You say it is not the people but the lawmakers. Just how stupid can you churchmen be. Our politics is a representative one. The lawmakers are representative of the  people, so it is the people’s will that prevailed. And as they say, the voice of the people is the voice of God. If you do  not believe in this, then tough luck. Maybe it’s time for the CBCP to go  somewhere else where you can still threaten people with eternal damnation trash.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FUVIB7CSAPFSTHQRONK7F2C6NU jay

    Sino nga bang obispo ang nagsabi na yung 104 na congressmen na bumoto against RH bill ay heroes? Ngayon babawiin ninyo at sasabihing maaaring anti-RH pero maaring corrupt din? Hindi talaga pwedeng basta na lang magtiwala sa sinasabi ng ilang kaparian natin. Bwiseeet!!!

  • wawangpenoy

    The CBCP still can’t take their hands off the cookie jar. Maybe it’s about time to amend the Constitution and make the church taxable. The RCC is so filthy rich that I’m sure they can afford to be taxed. Maybe, donations can be exempted but for heaven’s sake, all these expensive and exclusive catholic schools raking millions or probably billions, THEY SHOULD BE TAXED. And then, they will have reason to stick their noses into politics.

  • billy31

    so STVPID  remarks by the Bishop/s. Mar Roxas, please also support the DIVORCE BILL, and we will strongly support you in 2016 for PRESIDENT!!!
    The Catholic church has so much money, they are not even taxed, but they cannot help those poor families who have so many children?

  • concern_netizen

    Why can’t the church stop whining?  Did the RH bill stop them from teaching their followers to refrain from practicing the natural method?  Will the RH bill compel people to use IUDs, condoms, etc?  Are parents going to be apprehended if they decide to have a dozen of children even if it is beyond their means?  The government has been subsidizing the church function for so long, why can’t the church buckle up and do their job instead of pressuring the government to make the sermons for them. Afterall, the church is not taxed, so they should have enough resources to ‘guide’ their flocks.

  • Chris P Pnono

    binabati ko po mga kongresesta na pabor sa RH BILL.kalimutan  na yang mga pare na yan sagabal sa pag unlad ng bayan.

  • bojingmindanao

    Good day to all Catholics including me.  This CBCP people should be expelled from the Church itself. They are making the Catholic Church very funny.What you should do is PRAY and not threatened people who are working for best and good for the majority. Why joined political rumbling? Your job does not fit in this arena. That’s what you should simply do. CBCP is putiing the Catholic Church in shame! Stop meddling in arena which you do not have expertise. What a shame!

  • pinoy917

    Do bishops ever vote? I can not see your “much moral influence” in the streets because you are always confine to your cathedrals.  Have you tried visiting a poor man’s house anywhere in Manila? How can you influence people who are hungry and never been to your cathedrals? Maybe you can influence some politicians who sit beside you and dine with you because they just want to look decent to fool the voters come election time…  or maybe, you can influence us by just being apolitical and learn to accept the fact that you are not the one elected to lead this nation of different cultures and religions.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MZOKC6X7Q52Z4E5VLYNB7GF72Y Kaloy

    On the contrary Mar Roxas will gain more votes in 2016 for pushing the passage of the RH in Congress.

    Mas marami na ang mga asar sa mga Damasong ito sa pakikialam at panghihimasok sa sa takbo ng ating gobyerno.

    GO MAR GO!! 

  • Facilitator1

    I still supports the CBCP or the Catholic Church, as a whole, on matters pertaining to spirituality and moral issues that don’t interfere/meddle with the affairs of the state. But, I’m also a firm believer in the separation of the Church and State.

    Bishop Reyes subtle warning to Sec ROXAS’ probable presidential ambition was WRONG and it just showed that the CHURCH was actively interfering or playing POLITICS. In addition, he was ABSOLUTELY right that the CHURCH has still many faithfuls/believers but he was DEFINITELY wrong to think/assume that the faithfuls were blindly submissive/compliant to the church’s unreasonable and out-of-touch attitudes/beliefs/instructions in this modern times. 

    IMHO: CBCP is too quick to reprimand/chastise anyone/anything that contradicts/challenges their authority/decisions/beliefs. They accuses/professes that their adversaries/antagonists of NOT playing FAIR or being DISHONEST. But they themselves are doing/practicing what they abhor/dislike/condemn. Prime example: CBCP accused the government of unduly influencing the legislature because PNOY’s cabinet members were present during the contentious deliberation but they forgot they themselves have a large contingent present as well–If you can’t call that HYPOCRISY or DECEITFUL. Then what else…PEACE

    SUGGESTION: The Catholic bishops, nuns, and priests are still FILIPINO citizens and as such, you can’t fault them if they show/select their own individual or collective political representatives and their political goals/aspirations. They should be commended for being active participants in the formulation/creation of our laws/statutes. However, their participation or presence in a POLITICAL RALLY or CAUSE (e.g. Congress) must be without their regular, recognizable religious outfits. Because as soon as they wear these religious ensemble they STOP being regular CITIZENs Juan/Juana Dela Cruz but members of a religious order. PHL Constitution clearly specify the separation of the State and Church. Merry Christmas y’all…

    • http://z6.invisionfree.com/flipzi Flipzi

      Matthew 23 

      ” They crush you with impossible religious demands and never lift a finger to help ease the burden.

      Everything they do is for a show….

      … Blind Pharisees! First wash the inside of the cup, and then the outside will become clean too.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SC573R5VTMJ6ISRH635DJ2XVLI San

    These bishops always cross that line between Church and State.  Quite a  number of Filipinos are Muslims. want them also doing the same?

  • pej1972

    Please continue my dear Bishops, ang trending eh lahat ng ayaw nyo ang siyang nanalo. If you do that to Roxas, malamang na siya ang susunod na Presidente ng Pilipinas.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/E422KEFIWEQBOVJ54ALRSBJB24 JACK

    yes, many still believed in the church, but few believed in the bishops…

  • wakats

    I made up my mind now.  I’ll support Mar because of the bullying he’s getting from the CBCP.

    Everytime somebody from CBCP announced something, many parishioners entertain doubts on the sanctity of the bishops’ words.

    I’ll continue to be an RC but an enlightened one, not the captive RC of before

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

    KATOLIKO AKO, AT MANANATILING KATOLIKO SAPAGKAT NANINIWALA AKO NA NARITO ANG TUNAY NA PANANAMPALATAYA. NANATILI AKONG TAPAT SA PANANAMPALATAYA AT NEVER NA NA-DISCOURAGE NG MGA BALITA TUNGKOL SA ILANG DAMASOS SA LOOB NG SIMBAHAN. NGUNI’T HINDI KO MAGAWANG SARILININ NA LAMANG ANG PAGKASIPHAYO SA HEADLINE PA LAMANG NG NEWS ITTEM NA ITO.

    ANG URI NG ATING PAMAHALAAN AY DEMOCRATIC…SA AKING PERSONAL NA PANINIWALA, BAGAMAN MAY KARAPATAN ANG BAWAT PARI NA ISABOSES ANG KANILANG MGA OPINYON, DAHIL MGA MAMAMAYAN DIN NAMAN SILA NG BANSA PALAGAY KO’Y TALIWAS SA KATUMPAKAN KUNG GAGAMITIN NILA ANG SIMBAHAN MAGING SA PAGPILI NG MGA MAMAMAYAN KUNG SINO ANG DAPAT NILANG IBOTO, NA ANG MAGIGING PANGUNAHING RESPONSIBILIDAD AY PHYSICAL WELL BEING NG MGA MAMAMAYAN.

    PRO-LIFE AKO…PERO, ALAM KONG HINDI KO PUWEDENG IDIKTA SA IBA ANG GUSTO KO…ANG SUGGESTION KO SA SIMBAHAN, GAMITIN NILA ANG PULPITO SA PAG-E-EXPLAIN NG MAGIGING EPEKTO NG MGA GAWAIN NG GOBYERNO SA KALAGAYANG SPIRITUAL NG MAMAMAYAN, PERO BIGYAN SILA NG LAYA SA PAGPILI.

    GINAMIT NIYO NA ANG SIMBAHAN SA RH BILL…NATALO PA RIN KAYO.  NGAYON, NAHAHARAP NA NAMAN ANG SIMBAHAN SA MGA LALO PANG MALALANG KASO, TULAD NG DIVORCE AT SAME-SEX MARRIAGE. 

    I SUGGEST MANATILI SANA SA PANGUNGUMBINSI ANG SIMBAHAN SA PAG-INFLUENCE SA PUSO, DAMDAMIN, KALOOBAN AT KAISIPAN NG MAMAMAYAN…AND, LET YOUR CONVINCING POWER HELP THEM IN THEIR DECISION MAKINGS, BUT NEVER NA TALIAN ANG MGA PAA, PARA PIGILAN KUNG SAAN NILA GUSTONG PUMUNTA.

    NANINIWALA AKO NA ANG KATOLISISMO ANG TUNAY SIMBAHAN NA ITINATAG NI JESUS CHRIST MISMO, NA KANIYANG INIHABILIN SA KANIYANG MGA APOSTOLES. MANANATILI ITONG MATIBAY, MATATAG, BOUNDLESS, AT UNIVERSAL.

    • http://z6.invisionfree.com/flipzi Flipzi

      Tama! Dapat gamitin ang oras ng Simbahan sa pagpapalaganap ng Bible teachings sa mga apektadong tao gaya ng magasawa sa mahihirap na lugar para malaman nila ang dapat gawin sa pagplaplano at purpose ng sex. Kaso media mileage ang habol ng Simbahan at pulitika ang habol na nila. Kaya ligaw na ang Simbahan. Mali din na isipin ng Simbahan na ang lahat ng Pilipino maski Amerikano pa ay pwede maging banal. Maski bulatlatin mo ang buong Bible ay hindi posible yan. Guide lang ng tao ang Bible pero dapat ay may complementing system para makontra ang masamang epekto ng di pagsunod o ang kakulangan sa kakayahan ng TAO na sumunod sa salita ng Bibliya. Isa pa ay hindi lahat ng tao ay hindi naniniwala sa  Bible at yung marami ay hindi Katoliko. KAYA DAPAT AY TUMIGIL NA SA KANILANG PALABAS ANG KATOLIKA. Nakakasuka na sila. At huwag din nilang isipin na sila lang ang tama. Baka mabatukan pa sila ng mga Muslim at Judio. Una sa lahat ay marami silang tinuturo na malinaw na taliwas sa Bibliya gaya ng idolatry, pagan titles,  names from pagan gods at pagan tradition. Pinalabas lang nila na doctrina ng Romano. Kaya huwag silang magmayabang na sila lang ang banal at tama.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        Makapagbibigay ka ba ng printed article, hindi ‘yung ikaw ang sumulat, kundi ‘yung legitimate and credible reference material, tungkol sa sinasabi mong ‘marami silang itinuturo na malinaw na taliwas sa Bibliya gaya ng idolatry, pagan titles, names from pagan gods at pagan tradition’.  Saka, proof na nagmayabang na sila lang ang banal at tama.  Sa palagay ko’y mali nga iyan.

    • Carmichael Keane Chua See

      I agree on certain points. Teach the flock love, kindness and compassion. Not spew out hatred and retribution.

  • Mananandata69

    Translate the RH bill into our own dialect so the people sa nayon will understand. HIndi naman nila alam kung ano yan RH bill na yan. dito lang sa Metro Manila nag iingay.And let the people decide kung dapat nilang iboto o hindi ang mga kandidato na who are infavor or against the bill.
    Mga pakialamero na simbahan at politko. Fake representatives of the people

  • acaldejr

    Don’t worry Sir Mar Roxas, we will support you no matter what these bishops say.  We have our own minds to think what is good and not.  They can not dictate us!  

  • malanday

    It is like going back to the Spanish occupation wherein the Catholic church has a voice even in a civil government. This kind of threat from the catholic organization should be stop and the best way to do it is to disobey such imposition. Leave the civil government alone and just tend to your catholic business.. Just because a lawmaker or a government officials opposes the RH bill doesn’t mean he or she is a bad catholic. He or she is just exercising their God given freedom to think and act that they believe is good for the people of the Philippines.Morality and righteousness is not a monopoly of the catholic church. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EZG63XMBEMM4K4Q2MNV57RE7T4 Jesse don Tiu

    Try lang ng mga bishops na yan mag campaign against sa mga favor sa RH at baka wala na magsimba sa mga simbahan.

  • Albert Einstien

    bishops you are barking at the WRONG tree…it is not his decision to push RH….you are only weakening your STAND against rh….dont shoot the messenger your eminence… EXORCISE the devil in rh bill…KILL it by EXORCISM ..issue a PASTORAL LETTER BANNING yellow ribbon in house of god….( DEVIL’s LIFE is in YELLOW RIBBON )……..not by empty threats….. : > )

  • Magsasaka

    let us make cha cha, there will be no separation of state and churches, all churches should be under the state.

  • repapips

    Abuse of belief. Teach people how to have values and morality but don’t tell them who to vote or not. These kind of bishops must look at themselves in the mirror.

  • repapips

    “We just want what is good for the common good. The Church has no pork barrel and no government projects. We can just use persuasion, appeals and so on,” Asis said.
    walang pork!?!? sinong inulol nyo? dami daming perang nakukuha nyo mula sa tao at sa gobyerno ni gma. mag hipokrito!

  • Adarna

    i am not a fan of roxas. and i may not vote him on the next election but i couldnt believe that a bishop is saying this kind of revenge?

    very shameful catholic bishops! you see people are losing trust on you. pls dont make it worsened.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SRLWUTE6TYKA332DDUG5E2YGUQ Sandiego

    To all the child molesters..ooops i meant bishops and priests. I proudly salute you with my middle finger. Your devil church is a major reason the Philippines has not progressed. Your hold on the people with your vodoo magic is no longer appealing. Filipinos don’t need the Church or the child molesters to believe in God. Your ideology is dead. 

  • kishbuff

    ANG LAKAS MANAKOT NG MGA SMUGGLER NG IVORY, E ALA NAMANG NAPAPATUNAYANG POWER PAG DATING SA ELEKSYON HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!

  • Ody

    Belmonte < palusot!

  • kishbuff

    At ano kaya ang gagawin ng mga DAMASO KUNG….. wala ng pupunta sa misa nila na may halong galit?

  • ever green

    “ … The Church has much moral influence on our people. Many still believe in the Church. In surveys, the Church has the highest credibility [than] the executive, legislature and judiciary,” 
    Reyes added.     ———— wahahahaha…..hahahaha……haha….ha…..puwehhh!!!!!!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FQQPZLNOMD2EBFTHSWOP6QGZWY Marshall

    style Kingmaker ang dating nitong mga malalandi at haliparot na baklitang pari at obispong mga ito..akala yata nila pag-aari nila ang  Pilipinas  kung  makaasta,,,kung tal;agang tigasin kayo bakit hinde nyo i-excommunicate lahat ng pro-RH na senador at congressman at ang Presidente ng Pilipinas..masyado kayong maaangas..mga DIMONYO….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FQQPZLNOMD2EBFTHSWOP6QGZWY Marshall

    VOTE MAR ROXAS FOR PRESIDENT ON MAY 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION,,,

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YLWG4YNG33L4XV575V25SSZA64 kamandag

      The bishops’ negative campaign against Roxas will translate into a POSITIVE result on his candidacy !

  • boi skater

    The bishops are acting more like the mafia or Taliban. If the church is looking for someone to blame, they should only look at the people. The bill has majority support of the people.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ROHE5UZ4CGDKA34F7LCVAARLCQ Leonardo

    kayong mga obispo at pari ay nasa kongreso at nagla-lobby for NO to RH Bill, BAKIT? ayaw ninyong makita sa kongreso sina Roxas at Abad – WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE? Bishop Gabriel Reyes, mali po yata ang inyong naging profession o’ baka naman wala kang tinatanggap na LAGAY mula sa kay P-Noy di kagaya noon – you’ve received too much from GMA, o” galit ka kay P-Noy dahil nabalik sa government ang PAJERO na ibinigay ni GMA sa iyo…SORRY…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1144596374 Christopher Gabriel Dajay

    Imaging if Mar won the presidential elections…that would be a big blow for the church.

    • Carmichael Keane Chua See

      That already happened. Their presidential bet last year got a very small share of the votes during the previous elections.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YLWG4YNG33L4XV575V25SSZA64 kamandag

      Like in the case of Fidel Ramos and Juan Flavier !

  • Kamatis Tomato

    Covered ba ang simbahan ng FOI? Dapat walang exempted. 

  • droccu

    “Roxas’ presidential ambition in 2016 could be affected by his active role in pushing for the reproductive health (RH) bill”- YES…..it will be affected POSITIVELY!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YLWG4YNG33L4XV575V25SSZA64 kamandag

      The bishops and the priests still believe that they have influence over their flocks ! They must be dreaming. Parishioners go to church to pray to God and not to listen to their jokes ! MGA MUKHANG REGALO AT PERA ANG MGA GANID NA OBISPO AT PARE!

  • cogito728sum

    Failing in their coercive effort to influence the decision of some legislators on the RH Bill, these bishops are now resorting to blackmail coated with a denial of not being after political power, that they are just after the growth of the country by using their influence.  Aside from not being forthright with their flocks, these men of the cloth are obviously confused.

    If we recognize that by having influence over another a person exercises power over him, then these bishops fail to realize that their frustrated attempt at influencing the vote of the congressmen who
    went for the RH approval is exactly that, an exercise of political power a relic of the medieval past
    and irrelevant to modern times.

    Another argument I find hard to swallow is the absurd statement that ‘the church has no pork barrel…no
    government projects” Why belabour the obvious?  Is it the hidden intent of these bishops to gain total
    control of the secular functions of the State?

    Indeed the Philippines is still a democratic country.  Inspite its multifarious problems, it hasn’t turned out to be a theocracy or ochlocracy in nature, as yet, despite incessant attempts of these bishops to
    change its political setup.  And thank goodness it is still the people who choose their leaders.

    The language employed by these bishops reminds me of the medieval philosopher by the name of  Abelard who said that the language of the Bible ‘was meant for unlettered people and must be
    interpreted by reason.’  The pronouncements of these meddling bishops need not be believed by
    the electors as they are devoid of reason and must have no bearing on their choice of candidates in the next elections.  This will wake them up to the reality that the Filipino mind is no longer in the
    medieval times and much more modern functionally than theirs.  Thank you folks!

  • TotoyKalentong

    A man of God exacting retribution, instead of forgiveness??? 

    • Carmichael Keane Chua See

      And they call themselves men of God.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UWISP2YXGDQ7K2SIX2GI37B2EI Darwin

    And how much is the Churhc remitting to Rome these days? Sayang ang pera na yan kung gagastusin lang sana para mga mahihirap na myembro ng simbahan.

    • yaonglaan

       pag nabawasan ang buwis sa roma baka walang maging Cardinal sa kanila at walang maging filipino Saint …….sa totoo lang

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        Ang siguradong-sigurado, kahit magbigay ka nang milyon-milyon sa Roma, hindi ka magiging Cadinal or kaya Santo.  

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      Hindi SELFISH ang Catholic Christianity, kaya nga CATHOLIC, meaning UNIVERSAL…BOUNDLESS.   Kahit may mga unCatholic sa ilang bishops and priests, their unbecoming acts can never cause a blockade to Catholics’ extending its helping hands to every corner of the universe.

  • pedronimo

    The Church has no pork but it has its pulpits, thousands of them, from where they unleash anti-RH  speeches. And they call them “Homilies”. Bah!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KELBC2K3ZHQWVW7ZCFKZUDDSEU Marlon

    BRING IT ON, CBCP.

    BAKA MAPAHIYA NA NAMAN KAYO ULIT.

    TAMA NA ANG PAKIKISAWSAW SA POLITIKA.

    ATUPAGIN ANG KAKULANGAN NG PARI SA MGA PAROKYA.

  • monATmex

    Remember Flavier. The Catholic Church threw everything against him , including the proverbial kitchen sink. Yet, he handily won as senator.

    • Guest

       But not (only) because of condoms. No voter will vote anyone just because of his RH stance. A fallace of thought unfortunately both side adhere to.

  • NEGADO

    Malcañang really fought the Church,” Reyes said at a Church forum in Intramuros, Manila.

    I beg to disagree, It is the church fighting Malacanang. The last time I check the Philippine constitution — there is still separation of Church and State. The Catholic Church cannot accept the fact that they are losing control of their flock. If they could only offer free education within the Catholic Universities, then there would be no more lawmakers from UP who are not restricted by faith to make decisions. Sad to say, the Catholic institutions become a face of hypocricy and lost its moral purpose at the turn of century. Cost of Catholic education is expensive.

    • Guest

       It is all just show. Socrates Villegas and Luis Antonio Tagle are friends of the Aquino family.

  • jaws378

    Subtle threat as this one is counter productive. The 2016 election will be decided based on the performance of the P Noy administration. If the people are satisfied with the way he is running the goverment, his annointed candidate would have a better chance of winning the election. And if the vote on the RH bill is a factor in the election, why go beyond the 2013 election; will the legislators who voted in favor of  the bill and are running for re election still win?

  • wilfel

    What a SHAME for a Bishop to issued ultimatum to politicians working for the passage of RH bill about their political future. Don’t they (Catholic Priests) understand that there is a separation of State and Church. Let the goverment do their things and let the church educate the parishioner about the law. It is up to the people to follow what is in the law. If the church is against the law then do your things but not threatening the politicians of their political future since they serve their constituents that voted them in the first place. That is why the Catholic Church are losing the people from their Church for being so arrogant in their believe. This is not 15th century for what the priest says is the law. People are more intelligent than you think so Bishops and priests BUTT out. Stay where you belong and SHUT UP. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000532465679 Donardo Cuago

    GET OFF POLITICS!!!

  • joerizal

    Paano naman naging mas mataas ang credibility ng simbahan? Pare-pareho lang kayong mga nangingikil ng pera sa ordinaryong tao pero wala namang binabalik na serbisyo. May sariling isip ang mga tao at boboto ang mga ito hindi dahil sa sinabi ng simbahan kundi sa kung sino ang gusto nilang iboto. Yung mga nagli-linis-linisan ang unang kakalusin.

  • niceguy60

    At this point let us hope the passage of RH bill helps the country economically as well as in its security. Next, a bill to ensure employment for all citizens naman. Abay puro pasarap na bill ang gustong ipasa like the divorce law. Divorce law will make it easy to abandon the marriage union.

    Next trend once population is controlled is aging population. Just like in Japan and most of Europe. Filipinos will no longer be the source of old age caregivers. Nor nannies. Tayo na ang maghahahire ng foreign workers.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YAU43R25CAHGNYPHE6HLAM3V6Y Benjamin

    Mabuhay si MAR ROXAS !!!!!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      At mabuhay ng kaniyang paninindigan sa pagtupad ng kaniyang mga tungkulin as DILG Secretary.

  • damatannapo

    Mga Bishop ituun ninyo ang lakas at atensyon sa mga biktima ng Bagyong Pablo ngayong Pasko

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PZR7JI7G2WD2CTVMZ7LM667FD4 Ugly Bunny

    Was that an empty threat? I’m Catholic, but I do not allow ‘others’ to dictate me who to vote. I don’t know yet who to vote to but I’m definite that I will NOT vote for Mitos Magsaysay.

  • Rae_E

    Go ahead bishops campaign against Roxas so that he’ll win in 2016! It seems whoever or whatever you oppose, wins! You threaten & accuse PNoy all kinds of things but he’s gotten more popular. You campaigned against FVR for being non-Catholic, he won. You campaigned against Juan Flavier for promoting RH bill, he won. You fiercely lobbied against RH bill, it finally won! You stood for GMA & Corona & where are they now?

    Bottomline, whoever/whatever the bishops hate is good for the country. These bishops are so clueless that they didn’t realize they’re actually doing Roxas a favor & boosting his chances in 2016, lol! I’m not a fan of Roxas but since you’re opposing him & he stood for RH, he’s got my vote!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3NX6SLZAWPDFCZA77EAJ23EYXQ dennis

      Your’e absolutely right!
      I can’t understand why Bishops and Priests are dumb and deaf during the Arroyo’s corrupt administration, but sensitive and vocal in Aquino’s “Daang Matuwid” government.
      Are Bishops and Priests have hidden agendas during Arroyo’s regime?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/7U2G7QNT77QUH2RVHU2DMKSVOE Hector melvin

        dennis Ikaw ba naman bigyan nang 4 X 4 na S.U.V.  at monthly allowances na hindi bababa sa 200,000.- pesos noon time ni G.M.A. ay makapagsalita kaba nang kontra sa nagbigay nang S.U.V. nakita mo naman noon ay  nagbulag bulagan at nagbingi bingihan mga istupidong Obispong ito… Nakakahiya at Nakakadiring KASAKIMAN  dahil ang inagawan/ninakawan nang benepisyo ay ang mga kawawang maralitang mamamayan natin na para sana pambili nang gamot at pampapagamot….WHAT A SHAME ON THIS HYPOCRIES DAMASOS…BAKIT PA KASI NAKIKIALAM PA SILANG MGA TAGA C.B.C.P. SA MAGANDANG PAMAMALAKAD NI PNOY???GAYON DAPAT LINISIN MUNA ANG SARILING BAKURAN MGA DAMASOS…

    • RomyLitz

      The most tantalizing comments appropriate for these delusional BISHOPS !1

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UWISP2YXGDQ7K2SIX2GI37B2EI Darwin

    Ang mga pari, prang apdo. Vestigial organ, walang function, pwedeng tanggalin. Sino ba kasi nagsabing hindi ka papansinin ng Dyos kung di ka magsisimba, o kaya makinig sa misa ng pari. E di lahat ng ninuno natin sa impyerno napunta kasi di naman mga yung nagsimba o kaya nakinig sa pari. G-SUS.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      That only proves that the EVOLUTION OF THE SPECIES, eh, hindi totoo…
      hanggang ngayon, UNGGOY KA PA RIN.

  • Juan Rivera

    It’s unchristian to threaten and judge people. How did they become bishops?

  • Cano Manuel

    So now they’re concerned abut the political ambitions of government officials?!!

  • reydomingo

    masyado pang maaga bishop… sino naman ang pipiliin namin ipaboboto ninyo, si sotto? hehehe…

    • Francis81

       Marami pang maaring mangyayari bago mag 2016, sigurado 2013v pa lang wala na sa puwesto yang si Pweenoy at si Mar!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        Sumingit ka na naman…hindi mo ba nakita ang naglalakihan nilang larawan?  Nawawala ba?  Pati ba ‘yon pinag-iinteresan mo.

  • sepultorero

    Eventually, the set backs of the RH Bill will be obvious especially in the attitude and behaviour of the young and the youths. This will come in time. When this happens I want to hear what the pro-RH Bill people have to say. The real issue here is not just the RH Bill but its long term consequences on the lives of the people. Sad to say, the noisy and aggressive anti-Church and pro-RH Bill proponents had never fully read the RH Bill, including the Congress people. Sad talaga. And the Congress people who voted for it did not vote out of conscience and conviction. They voted for it because of the pork being dangled on them. Sad talaga.

    • Carmichael Keane Chua See

      Can you please point out the parts of the Bill where it will be detrimental to the people in the long term, given that you did read the Bill in full as you mentioned?

    • damatannapo

      Ako at higit sa kalahati nang mga mamayang Pilipino ay tanggap ang RH.

      Ang mga Congressmen at Senators ay nahalalal bilang kinatawan ng Mamayang Pilipino, ano ang mali dito sa pagpasa ng RH?

      Hindi balido ang pang sariling konsensya at sariling paniniwala pag kinatawan ka ng mamayan dahil nananaig ang kagustuhan ng karamihan mamayan pagdating sa proseso ng lehislasyon,ganyan tumatakbo ang demokrasya.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VKXUKFOID3EPNFDJRKSG2TQ5IE Rex

      just shut up! nonsense ka. ikaw nabasa mo na ba? sige nga enlighten us you mindfucked.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      Sad talaga…biro mong ipagpalit ang kunsiyensiya nila sa bariles ng karne ng baboy…sana naman, hindi botcha ang makuha nila.

  • sepultorero

     Ikaw din nanghuhusga ngayon. Ano pinag kaiba mo sa mga sinasabi mong bishops?

  • jseesus

    madaldal talaga etong mga tsupabishop na mga eto.. yang puro kasi gamit ng dickrophone lahat ng panankot gagawin para lang masiulong ang sariling ideologo…  kung gusto ninyong masunod ang mga gusto ninyo sumali kayo sa kongreso.. magtayo kayo ng sariling party list.. samahan ng mga bakla pakialamero katoliko (BPK).. hindi yung lagi nasa media kayo at dun nagtatalak…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      hahahahahahahaha….BPK?  Iyung B hindi Bakla, BornAgain ‘yon…’yung P, tama ka, Pakialamero…’yung K, mali na naman, dapat sa K, Karumaldumal…kaya ang BPK, ang ibig sabihin ay BornAgain Pakialamero Karumaldumal. 

  • sepultorero

     Alm mo ba kung ano ang talagang ibig sabihin ng separation of the Church and the State?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VKXUKFOID3EPNFDJRKSG2TQ5IE Rex

       “hinde”, sige nga ipaliwanag mo nga?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        Nakupo…hindi kaya ang sepultorero ang mapaglamayan sa challenge na ‘yan?  Sige, sepultorero, show them na hindi ikaw ang dapat na ilibing.

  • Guest

     Bishops are just bishops. Stick to the Catholic teachings, listen to
    Jesus teachings and god and you don’t have to be ashamed for your faith.

    You don’t go to church because of the priests and/or bishops but because of god’s presence.

    In the past, even the Vatican sometimes had to inhibit the too activist CBCP.

    • sepultorero

       Maaring tama ang akala at palagay mo sa mga bishops. Pero dahil bastos ka sa pananalita mo, sila pa rin ang pipiiin kong kampihan.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VKXUKFOID3EPNFDJRKSG2TQ5IE Rex

         alin ang bastos? ikaw lang yata eh.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        Ano namang salita ng pambabastos ang sinabi ni Guest? 

  • IceQueen1013

    ODK!!!! Seriously?!?  Can they not see that the more they meddle in the affairs of the State, the more followers they loose? They should just be praying for the souls of these “misguided” individuals instead of threatening them during elections. And yeah, they should get out of their comfort zone and SEE FOR THEMSELVES what is happening around them. As a healthcare worker, I am 200% pro-RH Bill because mothers do die during childbirth. Unnecessary deaths that could have been prevented through informed choices!

  • roberto_tc

    I really wonder what Mitos Magsaysay has to offer the Filipinos but ‘ headaches’ when she starts opening her mouth. I would welcome  anybody to the Senate halls but not her!!
    I wonder if Binay and his ilk know  what a “liability’ she is to any group that coddles her.

  • Batz61

    So, the hierarchy (not the Church which is the truly represented by the entire people of God — never by the bishops or the hierarchy like the cardinals, bishops, priests), is showing it’s true vindictive color, warning and wielding its woe of evil against those who go against their minds and opinions. Are you still wondering why many right and critical thinking Filipinos, especially those who know how to proactively reason and think well, are going away from the Catholic Church? The hierarchy sounds no different from the medieval inquisition which was violent, domineering, and unjust. That’s been proven in history. And the present hierarchy, the way they speak and behave, are simply continuing that dreaded tradition. Isn’t that a painful shame for the Catholic Church?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MRHI267Q3IVUXRFU7PIOKBFSP4 docD

    Dear God, not after “political power”? Most countries that uses religion as a basis for laws, are countries filled with tyranny and corruption… I mean look at the middle east! the only country I know that’s developed are those that have oil (Saudi..but look how they treat other religion and their women), and Turkey.
    We need real reason and logic.  Kung may botohan sa simbahan na kasali tayo, di ko iboboto itong bishop na to.

  • Luis Antonio Sereno

    To these Bishops, FILIPINOS ARE INTELLIGENT VOTERS! I am a catholic but I just can’t take why the church has keep on meddling the government decisions to the betterment of its people. Mind you Bishops, your influence is waning! We won’t be influenced by your EGO centered principles. WE are not stupid!

  • Guest

    Dear Bishops,
    When 100% of the Philippines is Catholic, then you can meddle with the state. Until then, stick to what you know and focus on your people. Many of them are starving while you fight against their means to live decent lives.

    • RomyLitz

      If they wont stop to meddle with gov’t affairs then the congress should pass a law that all religious groups or organization should pay taxes. Same rate, 35% for the first one million PHP profit, with the catholics cash flow from offerings and donations running into billions a year, that’s cool 3.5 billion pesos !! Until that time, its okay with me that these bishops meddle with the governance of any president of the Philippines.

  • http://www.facebook.com/simoun.magaalahas.10 Simoun Magaalahas

     Nakakahiya ang pinag gagawa ng mga Pinuno ng simbahan ng Catholiko, hindi sila pumasok sa simbahan para tuligsain kung ano man ang ginagawa ng gobyerno. Ang dapat gawin nila ay turuang bumasa ng bibilia ang mga disipolo nila, kadalasan sa mga katoliko ay ni hindi marunong basahin ang mga konteksto ng biblia, kadalasan dumedepende sila sa salita ng pari.

  • RomyLitz

    Mr. Reyes,

    Make M. Roxas pay? What if both Roxas and Binay supposedly supports your anti-RH Bill stand today? And suppose that both of them will run for presidency on 2016? HOW oh HOW will you reward BOTH?? That’s surely a certain thing that you cannot answer because either your carrots and sticks system doesn’t  work or your logic as a bishop is incredibly full of idiocy.

  • justjarred

    Parang gusto ko na tuloy iboto si Mar para lalong maasar si Bishop Pasaway!

    • Don Dee

      Yun na nga e, bobong bishop na ito, his statement is actually an ENDORSEMENT of Mar Roxas (who I am ambivalent with at the moment). These delusional priests think that people still believe them! Haha. Ang gusto ko lang talagang marinig sa kanila ay ang official stand sa mga pedophile/rapist priests. Bakit tahimik sila sa ganung issue when that concerns them directly? Ano ba talaga mga obispo? Ilipat lang ng simbahan basta mahuling nang molestya si father? Yun ang official policy ng Roman Catholic church? Of course, dapat habang nang molestya hindi gumamit ng condom. Condom kasi ang tunay na masama.

  • jga94

    Somehow I do not see threatening tactics as very Christian-like, no Bishop? Whatever happened to Separation of Church and State?

  • whreyxk

    Mga sira ulong mga paring katoliko. Bahit kayo nangbabanta sa kapwa nyo tao. Ang tanong ko sa mga magagaling ns mga pari, kailan na ba nagkaroon ng solid vote sa mga katoliko?

    Ibig lang sabihin na may demokrasya sa ating bansa at hindi tulad ng pinapairal ng mga pari na ang gusto nila ang masusunod. Sino ngayon ang diktador??? Mga ungas

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/XJHPMO25TXGBTQMHLOORAM5MM4 John Paul

       Correct! Akala nla We are dumb like the days of Jose Rizal.. O kaya c padre Damaso yan haha

  • $15469930

    Church has no power the only power they have is collecting contribution during each mass but they don’t pay taxes.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      Anung relihiyon ba ang di nagcocoloect. HEPOkrito… An dami d2.

  • wishfull thinking

    BISHOP: “As for Mar, I think it will affect (his presidential ambition) … The Church has much moral influence on our people. Many still believe in the Church. In surveys, the Church has the highest credibility [than] the executive, legislature and judiciary,” 
    JUAN: Bishop, can BIR check the financial records of the church, for survey purposes?
    BSHOP: My son, there is such a thing as “Separation of the church and state!”
    JUAN: Weeeee?

    • Malik62

      As long as the HOCUS PCOS will be used in 2016 elections, there’s nothing much that the bishops can do! 

    • sanjuan683

      Ala eh wala ka mauuto tao kundi yan mga santo bato ninyo na gawa sa republic cement. Maliwanag na pumapalag na ang mga nakakarami sa pakikialam ninyo sa gobierno hoy maraming sekta dito sa Pinas pero hindi nakikialam sa gobierno. Kayo mga namumuno sa katoliko na liko-liko na ang patakaran magsilayas kayo sa Pinas bumalik kayo sa Rome at magsama kayo ni Papa Ketsup mga bastos kayo at mapanakot pa. Akala ninyo lahat ng Pinoy mapapaniwala ninyo.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/THJLWSZWRY7EOESJHR56R24SFM Jm

    GUSTO LANG NYAN NG PAJERO,NAGPAPA-PANSIN…PWE!!!ayan dinuraan kita  sa mukhang pari ka!!

  • mashamanning

    this bishop is a f00l. what part about separation of church and state does he not understand? i guess they prefer ate glo who bribed them with cars so they will not speak against the immorality of her presidency.

    • sanjuan683

      Kapag nainis ako yun mga santo nila bato ipupok ko sa ulo nila para magising sa katotohan aba lumalaban na sila sa gobierno at tinatakot pa nila yun mga pulitiko ayaw sa kanila kagustuhan. Hoy mga bishop at pari magsilayas kayo sa Pinas.

  • $15469930

    Let’s stop giving contribution to church ….

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/XJHPMO25TXGBTQMHLOORAM5MM4 John Paul

       Agree!! BTW Im no longer a catholic anymore..

      • billy gunner

         isa knang saksi ni hoba! lol

    • brunogiordano

      Kung barya ang limos, thank na lang daw.

      Mga big time na sila at ang tinatangap nila ay ang malalaking abuloy ng kanilang mga kapanalig na corrupt na tao.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FQQPZLNOMD2EBFTHSWOP6QGZWY Marshall

    dapat gumawa ng batas ang congreso  lahat ng ibibigay na abuloy sa simbahan isyuhan ng  resibo kasama na rin ang kanilang kinikita sa lahat ng kanilang mga negosyo tulad ng mga kolehiyo .unibersidad at mga sosyo sa malalaking mining firms dapat nilang ideklara para matakdaan ng kaukulang buwis,,tutal sagad naman pakikialam nila sa pagpapatakbo ng gobyerno hinde naman sila nagbabayad ng buwis,,

  • brunogiordano

    Palaging tatandaan, huwag palapitin sa pari, obispo, o cardinal ang inyong anak at sumama ng walang iba kasama ng maiiwas sa SEXUAL ABUSE.

  • Rigoberto_Tigdas

    Bishop’s endorsement to any politician is a kiss of death. Simple as that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Paolo-Hernandez/100001326302694 Paolo Hernandez

    I am a Catholic, and I support P-NOY and Mar ROXAS! Walang tinatawag na catholic vote! Ang mga Katoliko ay di sumusunod sa lahat ng sinasabi ng mga pari at obispo lalo na kapag Ito ay may kinalaman sa Politika! Kaya dapat kayong mga obispo at pari, you shut up! Mga corrupt din kayong mga Obispo at pari! Maingay kayo kasi di kayo nabigyan ng Fortuner at Montero !

  • tiger222

    The Philippine Catholic church wants to keep us Filipinos in the dark ages. The passing of the RH bill only brings us at par to the rest of the modern world. What  moral personality does the Catholic church have when Bishops accept favors from corrupt politicians, have women and families, not to mentions boy-toys. For the Catholic church to survive they have to cleanse their own ranks and get rid of ALL immoral priests. Oh, lets not forget the priest in Cebu who has this Ivory collection that was featured in National Geographic not too long ago.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EZDQMAM5NF7NH3BWBGXK7OE5LU GLENDA

    Padre Damaso was resurrected again after hundred years,,, You are not the voice of God… mga Pajero bishop,, isa kayo sa nakikinabang ng pork barrel ng mga congreesman,, di ba kayo at ang mga parokya ninyo ang malakas manghingi sa congressman? That’s the hard truth,sad to say,,, Meron na ba tayo nabalitaan na tumulong ang simbahan o nag fund raising man lamang for the cause of the needy or the poor? WALA. Puro sila ang tinutulungan.. God do not resonates on them ,,, 

  • BLITZKRIEG166

    inquirer should change the heading of this story……….

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AYITA5V33GYZSLC3G37UCVNTKA Ben

      Yeah, I think the Bishop is referring to Roxas Church in Roxas city, the province of Roxas who will make the bishop pay in 2016 heheh

  • blainz

    Roxas should do the same and warn the church he will make them pay. Literally.

    END THE DAMASOS’ PRIVILEGES.  TAX THE CHURCH!!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/XJHPMO25TXGBTQMHLOORAM5MM4 John Paul

       haha Nice one!

    • panhase

       Yes, this will get the support of the people.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A4G6HCUTKODSQ3Q2GTIATXCU6E Mikaela Roberts

    Just accept the truth bishops and do not impose your will. Respect begets respect!

  • diamond_digger

    There goes the cuckoo!!!!! Now, what difference does this bishop make from a kidnapper and a blackmailer with what he is saying? Only a criminal will resort to threatening  others. What’s a cuckoo? The dictionary defines it as a bird that lays it’s eggs on other birds’ nests? He relishes on his post in the Church partly funded by the government through tax breaks and incentives and yet barks at the same government as if wanting to rule and impose his will. He purposely and conveniently forgotten that a great number of anti-RH hordes led by bishops and priests were neatly and comfortablly settled in Congress during the deliberation and voting – even with the fact that most if not all of them were not part of the government officialdom and there is that constitutional provision of the separation of church and state. Yet, this Padre Damaso, wants to deny certain persons who are clearly and undeniably part of the government to be present there. What kind of logic do you have, bishop? Or, do you know one? He clearly wants to bake his cake and eat it, too. I call that greed!

    • Francis81

       Full force attack ang mga Yellowtards dito, siempre tao ata ni Roxas ang boss nila na si Rickytick Carandang! Siguradong nanggigigil si Carandang ngayon sa pag depensa sa baklang bossing niya!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        Sumingit ka na namang KAWATAN ka…para kang sinusuutan ng condom na nalalaglag dahil sa luwag…parang turnilyong maluwag kaya walang bisa.

  • tilamsik

    These priests are pulling Catholicism down the drain….  can the faithful impeach these politicians in habits  and miters?  

  • kathurrr

     lol asssss if! remember the Jc guy they endorsed for president back in 2010? major flop. that catholic vote shizzz they are using to threaten politicians does not exist lol. theyre just throwing a tantrum for not winning the rh bill fight. HENAKO.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MJW2CHZBIO7YZ6MK3KVALX4VM4 Jhonny

    “The Church is not after political power but it has much influence. We use that influence for the growth of the country….” Ano kayang influence ang sinasabi ni Bishop Reyes, baka influence ni Lady Gaga o Britney Spears yata.

    • sanjuan683

      Bakit ba kayo nasa pagiging katoliko wala na sila sa katwiran akala nila nabubuhay pa sila sa pananakop ng mga kastila. Nuong ang bawat munisipiyo katapat ay simbahan para utusan niya ang mga tao gobierno. Pero iba na ang panahon demokrasya na kapag nanaig ang nakakarami dapat igalang nila tulad ng pagpasa ng RH bill na dumaan sa botohan. May kabatusan din ito mga obispo at pari wala respeto sa demokrasya. Magsilayas kayo sa Pinas.

  • antiscam

    Hey Bishops you cant even win your cause against RH Bill and now your threatening to blackmail Mar Roxas come 2016??? So your saying that the Catholic should vote for Binay who is playing safe on RH by keeping silent on the issue???

    When your threaten revenge you must always prepare two graves. One grave for the object of your revenge and the other grave for yourselves. You are asking your flock to vote for the more corrupt (Binay and his condos in Makati) just to satisfy your revenge.

    How about Pajeros, Monteros and Safaris? You were satisfied then when GMA gave you these… Corrupt Bishops….

  • Malik62

    The true vindictive character of Mar Roxas  is now rearing its ugly head. He now attacks the political heads of the provinces where he lost the VP race. First it was Espino of Pangasinan, next Garcia of Cebu just got suspended,. Who’s next?

    • antiscam

       CONSPIRACY THEORY HUH? OR ARE THESE GUYS (ESPINO AND GARCIA) JUST PLAIN CORRUPT? IMAGINE MAR ROXAS PERSECUTING THEIR PARTY ALLIES? HE MUST REALLY BE FOR THE “MATUWID NA DAAN” INSTEAD OF PARTY AFFILIATIONS.

      SO YOUR THEORY MALIK62 IS NOT CONVINCING….

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        what party allies are you talking about? Espino is NPC while Garcia is UNA, they’re not LP’s.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NKMLL6HD6WUINN5XQWNKKQDFEA Edwin Edwin

      hehehe dinadaan nyo sa character assasination dahil NGANGA kayong mga alagad ni Damaso…

      hehehehe

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      Hi, BalikSinto…he lost the VP race, pero…nagtatakbuhan sa kaniya ang TATLONGHARI, at ang kanilang mga ari-arian.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3NX6SLZAWPDFCZA77EAJ23EYXQ dennis

    Lets vote for Roxas and make the hypocrite bishops realized that we are not dumb as they think!
    Am wondering where is bishop Reyes during the Arroyo scandalous government? Why don’t you preached to your people to become responsible citizens instead of meddling with the duty of the state?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002207384387 Andrei Mendoza

      “dump”??? ang layo ng “P” sa “B” maybe, you mean dumb?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3NX6SLZAWPDFCZA77EAJ23EYXQ dennis

        Thanks!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NKMLL6HD6WUINN5XQWNKKQDFEA Edwin Edwin

      Bishop Reyes was busy test-driving his brand-new Pajero that is why he is silent during the previous administration.

      hehehe

  • sanjuan683

    hehehehe ano ba kayo CBCP bakit member ninyo tinatakot ninyo kapag hindi sumunod sa inyo. Ala eh kung ako si Roxas aalis na ako pagiging kato-liko na liko-liko na ang patakaran, mga kampon na ni satanas ang naghahari sa CBCP dahil wala na sila influence sa gobierno. Unti-unti na sila naagnas.

  • bisdakis

    Hang all  priests for their crimes committed against the Filipino people! And return to the people the wealth they robbed from us!

    • amado ordiz

      How the Church robbed you?!!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/NKMLL6HD6WUINN5XQWNKKQDFEA Edwin Edwin

        his virginity, maybe…

        hehehehe

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A4G6HCUTKODSQ3Q2GTIATXCU6E Mikaela Roberts

    The church condemned the election cheat of Marcos but not of GMA. Then these Bishops asking for SUVs, pedophile priests, etc. Since then, I lost my respect on them.

    If you are really concern with the state of the nation then why there’s no action against these political dynasties? Why don’t teach the poor people not to vote the TRAPOs? Why there are so many poor Filipinos despite of your existence for centuries? Why not accept the poor students in catholic schools? I don’t want to think that the Catholic Church is the most successful business organization on earth. Please someone enlighten me on this matter.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002207384387 Andrei Mendoza

    we need more atheists in the government, para walang maipanakot ang mga ipokritong CBCP.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

    Palagi sinabi ng mga pare yan, na against sila sa political dynasties at trapo. Di mo lang narinig d ko alam kung saan ka? Kaya maraming mahirap na pilipino kasi tsismoso, ingitero, talangka kaya wag mo sisihin na mga pare. Marami kasi tsuksang ng tsuksak at papasarap lang. gus2 gobyerno magpakain sa kanila at sa mga anak… (buti pa siguro proposed ng bill na gawin bakla nalang lahat ng lalaki para same sex walang buntisan. Lahat ng relihiyon ay tumatangggap ng mahirap na estudyante peru di nila kaya lahat. 

  • UrHONOR

    >>>Bishop warns Roxas Church will make him pay in 2016<<<

    MAGKANO naman kaya ang gustong bayad ni bi$yap Reyes?

    • antiscam

       A MITSUBISHI PAJERO, MONTERO AND NISSAN SAFARI WILL DO…

      • UrHONOR

        HINDI ba nakaka-insulto na ang katapat lamang nila ay sasakyan lamang?  Sasabihin nila, “Ano palagay ninyo sa amin- POOR?”  Isang katidral o isang seminaryo for young boys ang nakikita kong magandang PAY.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        Ihingi mo ng dagdag doon sa may tanikala sa leeg.

      • UrHONOR

        LOL!

  • antiscam

    Hey
    Bishops you cant even win your cause against RH Bill and now your
    threatening to blackmail Mar Roxas come 2016??? So your saying that the
    Catholic should vote for Binay who is playing safe on RH by keeping
    silent on the issue???

    When your threaten revenge you must always prepare two graves. One
    grave for the object of your revenge and the other grave for yourselves.
    You are asking your flock to vote for the more corrupt (Binay and his
    condos in Makati) just to satisfy your revenge.

    How about Pajeros, Monteros and Safaris? You were satisfied then when GMA gave you these… Corrupt Bishops….

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/NKMLL6HD6WUINN5XQWNKKQDFEA Edwin Edwin

      VINDICTIVE MITSUBISHOPS…..

  • buttones

    ““The Church is not after political power but it has much influence. We use that influence for the growth of the country……”

    Growth? GROWTH? Seems the ‘influence’ of bishops have led us nowhere, maybe they should step outside of their cloistered lives and take a peek at reality…

  • ApoNiLolo

    The bishops does not like Roxas. There’s no other contender except Binay…

    Take your pick! >: D

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

    maniwala ka dyan..hindi na tumatalab ang pananakot ni damaso…….next bill tax the catholic church !!!!!

  • LuwigVonMises

    this people made the church as God itself. shame on the catholic church… next from the islam religion i think you are the most evil of religious institution.

    • Luis Antonio Sereno

      Careful bro…need not to drag other religion on this issue

      • LuwigVonMises

        what do you mean the islam religion? everyone know that the islam religion want to be the government of the world. this people talk of peacefulness and godliness but i don’t see any peacefulness and godliness around this people they are worst than a bunch of barbarians… just give people their freedom and they will naturally be peaceful and godly. not by enforcing some made up stories which is obviously untrue at all (religion i mean).

      • Luis Antonio Sereno

        No bro…show some respect to other religion. ISLAM is a beautiful religion. Our rotten mentality on this religion is really unfair. Try to open up your mind and you will discover the greatness of ISLAM. It’s all about peace and love…

      • LuwigVonMises

        there is no peace and love if you base it on a bunch of lies so shut up. f……….ck your islam and all religion. i was born a free person and i intend to live in freedom and die in its name if needed be.

      • Luis Antonio Sereno

        See that’s a problem if you’re talking to a person who has a pea size brain like you. Sad to say that your behavior is    
        moronic!!! Your mind was in a sorry state! I bet your education level affects your mentality. Lastly, I won’t reply anymore to this nonsense argument. I can’t stand to discuss issues to a MORON person like you. Just waste of time…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      Wala kang utak alam mo ba yun?

      • LuwigVonMises

        your an idiot i suppose. i am sure that is what your mother tells to you everyday.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JQZQEJUYXLJW5Z4Y2F65AA7RQE Francisco

    Bwahaha patay ka Roxas bwahaha. Maglakad ka na ng paluhod sa baclaran baka magbago pa isip ng mga pari.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/62CI2HE2V5JOZ7AGFRQSW44RGQ Juan

    Iba na pala turo ng SIMBAHAN ngayon… iniuutos na ang pag-GANTI sa mga taong SUMUWAY sa kagustuhan nila…. MGA TAGA-SIMBAHAN, DAIG NYO PA MGA PULITIKO! ANG KAKAPAL NG MUKHA NYO! NAKIKISAWSAW KAYO SA ISSUE, KAMI MAY KARAPATANG MAGREKLAMO KASI PERA NAMIN ANG GINAGASTOS NG GOBYERNO. EH KAYO? NAGBABAYAD BA KAYO NG TAX? 

  • pikloy

    The Church is not after political power but it has much influence. We use that influence for the growth of the country.  CBCP What kind of growth ? population growth?  properties and money growth? Desasters come and go have you given help to the sorry state of the victims aside from prayers. or even to open churches doors to shelter them from the bad elements. Just a bogging mind wants to know.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BL2GYU35SO6HTJUEAUTXS3QFYM George Lapulapu

    May catholic vote ba?

    If the catholic vote will be measured by the number of votes JC Angeles got during the last presidential election, then Roxas should not be worried.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SYG36KOOLRY47VA3ICPJJ5CQTQ ADD

      There’s no Roman Catholic vote, and it never will, ditto with the INC vote.

      But there’s an uneducated vote 100%. That’s why this country has to many clowns in the congress.

  • virgoyap

    The warning the Bishops are giving to Roxas only show that they are for Binay. It doesn’t matter for them whether the candidate is corrupt or whether the candidate is having a dynasty or whether the candidate is self serving as long as they are subservient to the Bishops.

    • philip hernaez

      let us vote Binay!

  • rbrtsmith

    A Church of Vengeance?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

    u r way off if u think the people will have voted against the RH bill !!!

  • RomyLitz

    The CBCP’s squawking behaviour towards threatening the congressmen and senators is tantamount to abandoning or lambasting the state and the church separation principle and they should also start paying taxes to the Phililppine government by passing that bill specially called CBCP’s Bishop Bill.

    • http://z6.invisionfree.com/flipzi Flipzi

      TAXES? WANNA KNOW HOW MUCH THEY ARE AMASSING ?

      “They crush you with impossible religious demands and never lift a finger to help ease the burden. Everything they do is for a show.” – Matthew 23

      This verse made me realize how it is today. You see them enforcing upon the people impractical rules like you can only use natural birth control methods, … and that you must control your urge… no condoms and no artificial methods… But they failed to realize the fact or what it is in reality. No human can be as holy as the Messiah. It takes the character of the Messiah to be like such. In fact, even priests have failed like there were many homosexuals, which is a sin, and many have molested churchgoers too. Even Satan failed as an angel and that’s why he was kicked out of heaven. They love to impose rules that are impossible to follow. But how are they behaving as priests by the way?

      Worse, they don’t lift a finger to help alleviate the plight of these poor families. Are there free tuition in the universities they built or subsidies on school expenses? 

      What’s factual is that UST and Ateneo are 2 of the most expensive schools in the country.

      Are there any free housing for the poor? Free medical service for the poor?

      But none. Thing is, “WHERE DO THE TITHES GO?

      “Let’s try to analyze now;

      For 1 church, 500 churchgoers x P50 is P10,000.

      4 schedules a day means P10,000 x 4 equals P40,000.

      In some churches like in Quiapo, there are 13 masses every Friday and 9 masses for the rest.

      40,000 x 30 days = P1.2 MILLIONP

      1.2 Million x 12 months = P14,400,000 or P14.4 Million

      How many Catholic church across the country?

      Rough estimate is 1 per every municipality or city.

      That’s 1,496 town X P14.4 Million, which is P21,542,400,000

      THAT’S 21 BILLION, 542 MILLION, 400 THOUSAND PESOS!

      Not included are towns with more than 1 church, and the millions of donations and the millions of income from the expensive schools and so on.

      Okay, assuming it’s just 16 Billion and half of this goes to VATICAN !!!!

      (What? All these for making the Vatican rich?)

      So, out of the 8 billion 2 billion goes to operational expenses. So, what do they do with the 6 Billion?

      Make your assessment now.Have they done anything to help the poor like free education, free housing, free medical service?

      Check the church where you belong too and realize what’s been going on.

      Well, review what the Bible says.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/NKMLL6HD6WUINN5XQWNKKQDFEA Edwin Edwin

        nice analysis!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FGLCSWEISCSAYRSODQ7MEOWLNI yahoo-FGLCSWEISCSAYRSODQ7MEOWLNI

    Bishop’s treat is good as nothing.

  • Magsasaka

    mga damaso hanggang pananakot at pagbabanta na lang kayo hehehe, hindi na kayo katulad noong 16th century kung saan ipinapapatay o ipinakukulong nyo ang mga salungkot sa mga kabalbalan nyo

  • antiscam

    I will vote for Roxas just to prove these Bishops wrong….See the results of blackmail? It just backfires and create instead a backlash…Dumb and corrupt Bishops….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/35KQJ55UKEKIJDKLJRDSAHVBI4 Marc Austin A.F.

    I will vote for Roxas who is more dignified than those bishops, priest and clergymen who have double standard personalities as the Friars !

  • azkal futbol

    catholic believers should now make second-thoughts if they still need to embrace the teachings of these damaso’s. we have been chained for the longest time in this faked idealism – christ-like teachings always empower what is good for humanity, not what these human priests embraced.

  • Maitum

    Look at the attitudes of these Priests. They’re throwing threats again. Why, Bishop Reyes, what had you improved in the lives of the Akeanons? Are you planning to campaign against Mar in Aklan in which he is a Capiznon? A neighbor province of Aklan where you came from.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SYG36KOOLRY47VA3ICPJJ5CQTQ ADD

    NO one listens to the Roman Catholic before, more so now, so the threat to Mar Roxas is a complete joke. The more I’ll vote for him just to show that the Roman Catholic is a passe and need to go back to their motherland – Italy.

    • bahwan

      just wait and see what will happen

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      Sinu sabi sayo. Kaninu kami makiknig sa Saksi ni batman? Kay manalo. O kay bro Ele mo ha? 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SYG36KOOLRY47VA3ICPJJ5CQTQ ADD

        Makinig k dun sa may sense, pero malabong malaman ng isang senseless ang religiyong may sense.

  • bahwan

    Did Sen. Pia Cayetano and the other senators ask themselves, WHAT IS THEIR GIFT TO JESUS ON HIS BIRTHDAY?
    I’m sure they will say RH Bill…….Condoms, Contraceptives, etc (maybe satisfying sex which they defend)
    For us the BEST GIFT to JESUS is the GIFT of LIFE and LOVE. A mother carries a child to be born as a gift. No matter how many they are, but this is the gift and mission entrusted by god to married couples. To believe that god will not abandoned them what ever crisis or problem they have. To have FAITH is important.

    • muddygoose

      Birthday gift to Jesus? Isip bata ka ba? Alam mo bang na ang awaw ng pasko ay isang pagan holiday? At bakit mo naman nasabi na si Kristo mismo ay anti-RH? Dahil ang mga pari direktang nakikikipagusap sa kanya?

      • bahwan

        read carefully……are you blind! 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        Duh, many of your born againsts are as noisy and excited in celebrating Christmas…..kunyari pa kayo….

      • muddygoose

        Sinong born again? Bakit ba lahat ng pagiisip nyo naka-base na lang sa relihiyon? Malaki po at napakakomplikado ang mundo. Tapusin na po natin pagiging sunudsunuran sa mga Obispo, mga Manalo, mga Soriano, at kung sino mang nagpapanggap na representante ng panginoon.

    • rbrtsmith

      if Jesus lives today, he’s surely be a realist..unlike you..

      • bahwan

        really how did you know that jesus will agree on you

      • rbrtsmith

        i read and heard about Jesus teachings and parables.. his wisdom and decisions are always logical and practical..have you read any? or you just swallow everything that vatican feeds you?

  • Panotcha

    ewan ko lang simbahan, government employees siguardong gagantihan ang liberal party sa 2016

  • muddygoose

    Maybe Mar can offer the church more Pajeros.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

       nice idea, para manahimik na mga pari tulad noong panahon ni gma.. magpapari na rin ako

  • JoseMiguelCasuarino

    …..I will vote for Mar Roxas… and campaign for him. I will tell my friends in facebook and other social network acquaintances… we will rally behind Mar Roxas.  Bishop Reyes.. with all due respect, I suggest that you restrain yourself from making public pronouncement.  Today,… you have to recognize humbly that you, bishops and priests do not have anymore  the last say in many things that affect our lives…. while you are safe in your convents and with your millions….it is we the “people ” who are to face the many uncertainties in life’s journey. As head of CBCP- Commission on family and life….. perhaps you blah.. blah a lot or make a lot of noise because you are afraid to be branded as doing nothing faced with the passing of the rh bill.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/27EZYBBNAPOAXND6IPRZH6Y7TA Coffee

     If
    people actually took time to read the article instead of basing
    comments on Inquirer’s misleading title you would see the glaring
    difference in that the bishop actually advises “Catholics should not be
    “single-issue” voters and should consider a candidate’s competence and
    incorruptibility” Leave it to Inquirer to twist it around again so that
    they make our church leaders appear threatening. Its pathetic that
    Inquirer keeps churning out anti Catholic stories like hotcakes these
    days!

    • Renan Galang

      because it sells.

    • panhase

       The Bishop said “The Church has much moral influence on our people. Many still believe in the Church.”
      Of course it was a threat, He was referring to possible presidential ambitions of Roxas. The Church has hundreds of years of practise in delivering veiled threats.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

       ginoo, read between the lines iho….. threat yun hindi advise…

  • JoseMiguelCasuarino

     … i hope one day the government finds ways to make the Church and priests, religious declare their annual income and made to pay their taxes.  They are silent about their income… but they are amassing  by thousands and millions… They should not be exempted!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3G4XUXOPEQC6SCQUALI5P7RCXQ francis

    Bishops should take care of children fathered by their priests.  There are so many of them which they refused the admit.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

       sa amin ang palabas ng pari ay “pamangkin” daw nya pero para silang pinagbiyak na arinola nung bata sa hitsura. pasyal pa sila kasama yung nanay ng bata, like a family… pakain kain sa jolibee.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZVS4MKYAHNFS6TCFBFGRZNIIGQ Nueva

    hoy damaso sa 21 end of the world na magsisisi ka na lol

  • boshog

    HEY BISHOPS …you do realize that you are losing your flock.  The brain washed faithful are dwindling.  A lot of the followers of the catholic church are seeing your hyprocrisy and your stupidity in hanging on to your  worthless principles.  The best thing is for you to stayout of government and don’t use your church influence as a threat.  At any rate I don’t think you have that influence anymore.  Your credibility is kaput.

  • http://www.facebook.com/siretik Vicente Javellana

    i was brought up as a roman catholic but i will still vote for Mar Roxas.

    • boldyak

      alam ko kasi kababayan mo…bwahahaha….sa apelyido mo pa lang….magpalit ka kaya sign in name…lol

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J4GY2YEB4LB44XOKS67O56D56A celso

    The manner by which these catholic church characters aim to subvert the programs of the govt, convinces me that nowadays, the devil usually speaks thru bishops, priests, and Kit Tatad. Kung sino pang walang kontribusyon para sa ikakayaman ng bansa, ay sila pa ang nagpupumilit na lapastanganin ang proceso ng demokrasya. Ok bishops, join us in our tax obligations to the govt, then maybe we can listen to you, otherwise, stay away from our lives.

    • philip hernaez

      nabahiran nga ng kulay kc nakialam at nanuhol c Noynoy..kung hindi lang sana, tapos na ng kwento. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H47CPJUE4QYKFUCKSUXK3LNBGI Allan

        nakialam, yes pero nanuhol? that’s illegal and pnoy could go to jail. you have proof? bring them out para mapaalis na natin si pnoy na walang ginawa kundi para sa kabutihan ng bansa. hindi yata tama yun, ano sa tingin mo?

      • boldyak

        have you heard the word “PORK BARREL”?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NKMLL6HD6WUINN5XQWNKKQDFEA Edwin Edwin

    VINDICTIVE MITSUBISHOPS…..

    Kaya unti-unting nag-aalisan ang mga followers nyo ay dahil sa pakikisawsaw nyo sa Politics eh.

    Bishops acting like lawmakers and lawmakers acting like bishops…

    • boldyak

      it’s not vendictiveness, it is doing what have to be done to correct the mistake…

  • prodigalson60

    you’re very right facilitator1…but i don’t support CBCP! “PEACE WITH YOU” is one of the highest form of their utterances of HYPOCRICY! they are sowing chaos!

  • JoseMiguelCasuarino

    … many bishops and priests did not notice  intentionally… or intentionally blind to the evils of Gloria and cohorts because many of them requested and received favors/gifts from her.  They have lost their freedom to denounce evil, they lost their independence and afraid to speak the truth. They have lost their objectivity.  They are asking donations from here and there, from any body they think can give in to their thirst for money and material things [thirst for power, honor and prestige as well]. Many times they ask donations in the name of the poor people.

    The bishops, priests have to pay taxes too.  They are to file also their annual  income tax just like all of us who from our sweat and tears and labour,… just like any of us simple Filipino people who can eat and live by the sweat of our brows.  WHO ARE THEY TO BE EXEMPTED, AND WHY SHOULD THEY BE EXEMPTED?  BEING EXEMPTED IS PART OF THEIR THIRST AND HUNGER FOR POWER, HONOR, PRESTIGE, TREATED AS SPECIAL IN SOCIETY, TO WHOM WE BOW/BEND, HANDS WE KISS, TO WHOM WE KOWTOW…….IT IS TIME TO BRING THEM DOWN FROM THE PEDESTAL.

    • boldyak

      just like tyhe bible said, ibabagsak ni satan ang church…

  • Roy Rosales

    advice to sec roxas,just ignore the threat of the catholic church.the cbcp should realized that the filipino majority are not bobo anymore,we know that they are interfering unjustly with state affairs.if our national hero,dr.jose rizal will rose from his grave now,he will be terribly dissapointed with the actuations of the catholic church.after centuries of dictatorial decrees under the guise of god,still want to order filipinos to follow their devilish orders.shame on them

    • boldyak

      yes hindi kami bobo, at dahil isa ka sa mga taong nagpababa ng moralidad ng mga Filipino hindi ka namin iboto hindi nga kami bobo dahil alam namin ang ginawa mo…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

    the church will demonize Roxas for sure….but people will be the judge, not the church come 2016

    • boldyak

      you don’t have to demonize a demon…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

    yesterday one bishop claimed the president bribed and THREATENED lawmakers…now they are doing the same thing… threatening those who oppose them… these priests are “confused” and need to seek not just divine guidance but psychiatric help as well.

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    BELMONTE IS BORN AGAINST…KAYA PALA MASIGASIG SIYA NA ISULONG ANG RH AT DIVORCE KASI ITO ANG TURO NG BORN AGAINST SA KANILA…AT ANG MGA TANGANG KATOLIKO NAMAN SUOND NAMAN NG SUNOD SA KAGUSTUHAN NG MGA BORN AGAINST…AND THEY ARE EVEN HAPPY DEFYING THEIR BISHOPS…PITY CATHOLICS…

    • pej1972

      wahaha ndi na proRH target mo ah, lahat na ng katoliko ngayun.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        LAHAT BA???TANGA MO NAMAN!!!

      • pej1972

        ahahaha wawa

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        tinawana ang sarili…ganyan talaga ang bobo

      • pej1972

        hihihihihi oo tama ka, tanga at bobo ako biruin mo naman na patulan ko post mo, pero ok na rin kasi panalo naman ang argumento ko…eh ikaw matalino ka nga irrelevant naman ahahahahaha punta na kasi sa liwanag.

  • yonoh

    mabuti nga natalo si roxas………..sa susunod na eleksyon………di ko na iboboto………….hehehehehehehe….

  • TwiggyRamirez

    “Bishop warns Roxas Church will make him pay in 2016″

    …so, whose being vindictive now? these bishops are showing their true color. palibhasa kase wala nang pabaon at pajero na natatanggap sa kasalukuyang administrasyon. unlike noong panahon ni GMA.

    • boldyak

      hahaha  namention na naman si GMA…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H47CPJUE4QYKFUCKSUXK3LNBGI Allan

    there is no catholic vote and you know why? because catholics 1) think, 2) are hypocrites, 3) don’t care about the church anymore. pag sinabi ng church na wag iboto ang mga pabor sa RH bill (law na pala), believe you me, yung mga kandidato, mananalo. dapat sabihan ni binay ang simbahan na tumigil na sa pagkontra sa RH law at sa divorce bill (in the making). 

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      NOT THIS TIME…KASI NAMAMAYAGPAG NA ANG MGA BORN AGAIN AT IGLESI NI KRISTO…

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    pinagtatawanan lang kayo mga katoliko ng born against…sila solid, samantalang ang katoliko hati…their teachings is for rh, and u catholics adapted it and even defy ur bishops…

    divide and conquer strategy…they were successful for that…

    slowly, they are injecting their brand of morality to u and u happily embrace it, and kinasusuklaman ang mga obispo…what a shame to these catholics…

  • Lorebea Tamparong

    Hoy kayong mga BISHOP makinig kayo!!! Hindi na ito panahon ng AMO nyong si ARROYO na nagbibigay sa inyo ng PAJERO at kung anu-ano pa… akala ba namin maka DIYOS kayo??? bakit parang naging hadlang na tuloy kayo sa pagbabago para sa kabutihan ng lahat… yan ba ang itinuturo ninyo sa simbahan??? ang hadlangan ang tuwid na daan??? ang manakot ng tao kung hindi makinig sa mga gusto at babala nyo??? GO TO HELL STUPID BISHOPS!!!

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      KAYO MGA BORN AGAIN AT IGLESIA NI MANALO!!!KAYO ANG PUMUNTA SA IMPYERNO!!!MGA MALILIBOG !!!…KALIBUGAN LANG SA BUHAY ANG ALAM!!!SAFE AND SATISFYING SEX PALA???HAHAHA

    • boldyak

      hadlangan ang tuwid na daan tungo sa kamunduhan ang pagbaba ng moralidad…

  • pej1972

    Dear Bishops, paala-ala lang po sa inyo na sina FVR at Erap na ikinampanya ninyo na huwag iboto ay nanalo…wag na po ninyo dagdagan ang pagkapahiya ninyo at nagiging obvious na delusional na kayo. Kung hindi ako nagkakamali kahit si FPJ hindi nyo rin iniendorse pero kailangan pang dayain ng pinanigan ninyo.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H47CPJUE4QYKFUCKSUXK3LNBGI Allan

    Belmonte noted that former Sen. Francisco Tatad, a known opponent of the RH bill, also showed up at the Batasan.
    “He was also there and we also welcomed him. What he ate was also free, the same as everybody else,” he said.

    in america, you call that freeloading.

  • Lorebea Tamparong

     Hindi nyo ba nakikita na sa pakikialam nyo sa ganyang paraan ay pinapakita na ninyo ang totoo ninyong kulay??? kunwari pa kayong mga banal na tao pero ang totooy maitim ang inyong kulay at pagkatao… Unti-unti tuloy nakikita ng mga tao na wlang silbi ang mga pinapaniwalaan nyo at idelohiya…Tingnan lang natin kung sino ang mawawalan ng tagasunod at tagasuporta…Baka magising na lang kayo isang araw na kayo na lang ang tao sa inyong simbahan…

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      SI BELMONTE NA BORN AGAINST…BANAL BA SIYA???SABI NINYO MGA BORN AGAINST, CHRIST IS IN U…THE HOLY SPIRIT IS IN YOU…BAKIT SEPARTED ANG MAG ASAWANG BELMONTE???BAKIT MGA RAPIST NA PASTOR???

      BAKIT MAYAYAMAN NA ANG MGA PASTOR NA NAKAPALIGID KAY PACQUIAO???

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FFII25OY6P73T3LXTZXSENZUSM ElScorcho

        Bobo. Hinding-hindi naghiwalay ang mag-asawang Belmonte. Walang asawa ngayon si SB dahil NAMATAY noong 1994 ang asawa niyang si Betty Go.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        go defend ur satanistic born again boss

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      Unti-unti tuloy nakikita ng mga tao na wlang silbi ang mga pinapaniwalaan nyo at idelohiya…
      —————

      NAG SISIMBANG GABI KA BA???BAKIT UMAAPAW ANG TAO???WAG KA NAMAN MAG LIE…LIARS GO TO HELL….MAGAGALIT NIYAN ANG PASTOR MO…BORN AGAIN KA PA NAMAN IN THE SPIRIT…AKALA KO MATITINO KAYO..UN PALA LIARSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

    • boldyak

      laking pasasalamat ng pastor nyo kung nagkataon, dadami lalo ang mag bibigay ng ikapo…bwahahaha

  • Kelly Galang

    One could be anti-RH but he could also be a thief. It will be up to the voters to weigh a candidate’s track record and decide,Are they referring to Binay, Gloria, Erap et al?
    meron pba matino na kyo mismo nag endorso? At least Pnoy has the balls to do what is right for the common good. 

    • boldyak

      correction…Pnoy has the balls to do what is wrong and not for the common good…

  • antonioluna

    hahaha taenang mukha ni Roxas, parang sumasali lang sa mr. pogi ah… 

    “Gulat kayo noh! akala nyo si Richard Gomez, Si roxas lang to!…” 

     

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

    Not just Belmonte, but also the Cayetanos are born againsts…..

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      BELMONTE AND CAYETANOS ARE BORN AGAINST…TANDAAN NINYO ITO…THIS WILL BE UR LAST IN THE OFFICE…U WILL NO LONGER WIN…ITAGA INYO PA YAN SA BATO…HAHAH

  • sakinlang

    Bishop Reyes, magkano po naman ba ang kailangang ibayad ni Mr. Roxas? Sa 2016 pa ang singilan? What a threat! Masamang asal iyon, di po ba?

    • boldyak

      saan ang threat?…sinabi nga na sa influence ng mga pari wag na iboto si mar, threat ba yon?…gagawin na nga…at kahit hindi sabihin  ng mga pari hinid ko iboto yan….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

    maybe Roxas and Malacanang are too underestimating the power of the Catholic Church….come 2016, they will feel the effect of the curse of the RHB…..

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      CORRECT…AND THIS 2013…DO U HAVE A COPY OF THOSE TONGRESSMEN AND SENTORS WHO VOTED YES PARA MALAMAN NG TAO NA MGA DEMONYO ITO…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        A true Catholic should have that list. Starting next year’s election, we should start the campaign against these people, beginning with our own family…

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        CORRECT…CAN U FURNISH ME ONE HERE?TNX…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        i still don’t have copy now…..i hope someone can provide and make sure that the list is always inside our pocket or wallet for easy reference……a 2013 Calendar featuring the faces of these tongressmen and senatongs is also a good idea….

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        ok..ill wait if u rcvd one…just post it to me..tnx

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/QKQ5W3WDJP36I52JMKNPKXFBMA Albert Vincent

        a true religion is the one taking care of the poor and their needs… when was the last time the catholic church helped the poor?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        do your research….you can start with caritas……

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/QKQ5W3WDJP36I52JMKNPKXFBMA Albert Vincent

        dream on Poltergeist, the real demons are the one wearing brown and white cloaks claiming to be holier than though espousing… civil disobedience which is directly counter what the bible says about obedience to local authorities… your bishops and cardinals, which represents the present day inquisitors, should be burned in the stake…

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        if they r…who are u therefore???

    • Joy Lynn

       awwws?  totoo ba yan?  ang alam kp nawalan na ng power and influence a catholic church.  patapos na tayo sa Age of Pisces…. patungo na tayo sa Age of Aquarius … mawawala na ang popularity ng mga christianos….aray!

  • les21reago

    A Priest or Bishop whose advocacy were pertinent with that of a politician no matter how diametrically oppose on the subject SHOULD RUN for elective office…By this they can TALK there INFLUENCE if indeed they would be voted like Among Ed Panlilio…
    But using the PULPIT during sermon on their topic will just TURN off the faithful and one may stay out of the flock…
    Did anyone saw a Bishop in Compostela Valley after PABLO???One should VOTE for him.

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      BAKIT KAYA ANG MGA KAPILYA NG IGLESIA NI CRISTO NAKA KANDADO SA COMPOSTELA AT DAVAO DEL NORTE SAMANTALANG MGA SIMBAHAN AT CATHOLIC SCHOOLS NAG UUMAPAW NA SA MGA BIKTIMA???

      GANYAN BA ANG ISANG KAPATID???

      • boldyak

        makapasok lang doon ang nagbayad ng ikapo

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        at mga kampon lang ni manalo ang pwede pumasok…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        OPEN NGA SIMBAHAN KATOLIKO PUNO PUNO NG CCTVS NINANAKAWAN NA SILA NG BATANG HUBO!!!

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        labo mo tsong

  • dodgethis68

    The Catholic church’s history is one of corruption, deception, murder, harassment, theft, child abuse, rape, and other heinous crimes. So what moral influence is the bishop talking about?
    What he probably meant was the church’s capability to abuse its power by teaching false doctrine meant to pressure or scare its poor followers.

    No bishop will be with Jesus in the end times. Jesus himself said this when he warned people against “wolves in sheep’s clothing..”

    Jesus obeyed the law made by people..even paying his tax. The priest disobey and don’t pay taxes. 

    The good news is that people are no longer stupid as in the olden days. They know what hypocrisy is. 

    See you in hell Bishops!!!

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    MGA PASTOR NG BORN AGAIN MGA EX CONVICT…PINAGMEMORIZE LANG ANG BIBLIYA..AND THEY SELF PROCLAIMED AS SENT BY GOD…TALO PA NILA UNG MGA NAGLILIBOT NA PARANG ERMITANYO NA NAGPAKITA RAW SA KANILA ANG GOD…BORN AGAIN TALAGA, MGA BOBO…BUT ANYWAY…ANDIYAN ANG PERA…40 MILLION NGA ANG NAKUHA NILA KAY PACQUIAO…

    AND THIS BELMONTE IS A NOTORIOUS BORN AGAIN…IMPOSING HIS BELIEF TO CATHOLICS…

  • panhase

    It is really time to tax them.

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      TAX ALSO THE TITHES RECIEVED BY THE PASTORS…MARAMIHAN ANG NAKUKUHA NG MGA PASTOR…KAYA MGA SUV ANG KANILANG CARS…TSK TSK TSK…TAX THEM…PATI SI MANALO NG IGLESIA NI KULAFU…ANG YAMAN YAMAN NA NI MANALO…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

      i don’t have problem taxing the church, just make sure that you don’t miss the born against pastors, Quiboloy, Manalo and Villanueva…..

  • MG

    Mar’s future political success  will not depend on the RH bill. He has much more to work on if he wants it badly. Threats from the church will not work. The majority have spoken. Lets work for it’s success and move on to more important issues like: infrastructure, peace and order, power  costs, water costs, foreign investments, tourism, food production atbp.

    • JuanTamadachi

      good one..

    • boldyak

      it’s not the majority…the pork barrel have spoken and we know…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

      Yes, the govt is MOVING ON on after the RHB. In fact, next in line is the DIVORCE Bill, then ABORTION is probably the next. What a way for his govt to destroy families.

  • muddygoose

    I guess Catholics will be divided among those who actually think and the sheep who blindly follow these bishops.

    • poltergeist_fuhrer

      BLINDLY FOLLOW???WOW NAMAN, NOT FOLLOWING THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST IS NOT BLIND???THAT IS THE WORDINGS OF SATAN…

      • muddygoose

        Bishops=Christ? Wow, magisip ka naman for yourself. Tao lang mga yan. Magbasa ka ng history ng simbahan, at alamin mo kung ilang beses nito pinalitan ang so-called teachings of Christ. Be a Catholic in the true sense, not a blind follower of these priests.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        ay…tanga, simpleng ingles hindi maka intindi

    • boldyak

      we follow our bishops because we know that they the wisdom in guiding people who would like to follow them…therefore wala kang karapatan na we follow blindly…we are not blind and I assure you that my morality is not corrupted…ewan ko ang sa iyo…

  • muddygoose

    “Many still believe in the Church. In surveys, the Church has the highest credibility [than] the executive, legislature and judiciary,” Reyes added.
    Mas may credibility mga pari kesa mga pulitoko at mga judges? Hmmm. Pede.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4R3GZTGML26TV2VGS6RVHP2THM Fred

    Lahat ng controbersial bills ay dapat ng talakayin at maaprubahan ngayon ng sa gayun ay limot na yan sa 2016!

  • VeryDisgusted2

    The bishop should realize they have no credibility and clout over Catholic voters. These voters hate them like Filipinos who despised friars during Spanish time. These bishops would be better off continue drinking wine in their little palaces.

    • boldyak

      sinasabi mo yan dahil hindi ka katoliko, kung hindi ka katoliko you are just part of the propaganda machine…

  • kilabot

    church or no church markorina will not make it to the presidency in 2016. 
    cory’s popularity did not rubbed on him in 2010 as it did noykapon. markorina has no popularity of his own. notoriety maybe but not popularity. 
    he can wear all the condoms he wants but he’s not gonna make it in 2016.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/36O4ZGE5JY24XE4XQOXBM6O4WE Klepto

    Good job Mar!!! Maging binata ulit ako at di na ma gi-guilty. :)

  • wawa2172

    “He was also there and we also welcomed him. What he ate was also free, the same as everybody else,” said Belmonte of Tatad.

    Aba kung ganito pala eh, mga batang hamog, taong mangangalakal, taong grasa, etc…please stand, be recognized and lined up at the congress every session dahil may libri palang pag kain doon. I hope Belmonte will provide the meal coupons to this citizens, give them the best seat, makinig sa issues at pakainin nang mabuti. Matanda ka na Belmonte at di naman bobo si Tatad na pag sabihan mo nang ganyan. Sarap pala sa congress, ang laki nang sweldo nyo, may pork barrel pa, may VIP lounge para mag tsismisan at higit sa lahat may eat all you can service pa. Hindi kaya pa nang punenarya ang congress may libring snack at kape. Hanep.

  • turbogirl9

    TUTA NG KANO

  • LJ1200

    Nung nabasa ko yung title, akala ko na the Bishop warns a Church in Roxas City.  Si Mar Roxas pala ang pinag-uusapan. hahaha

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/P7ZZSOSL2KSFF34OUI6FS563EY Me…me…me

    Magpulitika nalang kaya mga bishops. Kasi lagi nlang pulitika nalang ang lumalabas sa bibig nila.

  • duviz7533

    does it means they will endorse binay…bishops please naman

    • tarikan

      I think so. Susmaryosep pormamadelakama, mga bishops gugustuhin nyo pa ang umitim na sa corruption? I’d rather side with corruption than be with those people who support the RH Bill, ganun ba mga bishops? Whaaaa! Go to H.e.L.L please.

  • katutubongfilipino

    kaya maraming walang political will dahil sa mga threat na ito iyan ba ang halimbawa na pinpakita ng simbahan mag misa na lang sila puro salita  may kribilidad pa ba? kaya all over the world wala ng nawawala na ang respeto ang tao sa simbahan asikasuhin muna nila ang problema nila lalo na sa mga child molestation cases involving the priest hindi ba kayo nagtataka bakit lumiliit ang kolection nila nainis ang mga tao dahil pinangbabayad lang ang pera sa settlement 

  • katutubongfilipino

    kailangan ba ng mga politiko na humaliksa  a   s  ng   CBP dapat ikomend ang mga politiko na walang takot na gumagawa ng tama at hindi nagpapatakot

  • malek_abdul

    “Bishop warns Roxas Church will make him pay in 2016″ – Don’t worry bishops….Mar Roxas is not a presidentiable figure…whether vice or president he won’t win!!

  • AlexanderAmproz

    “Church will make him pay in 2016″

    How many second hand Pajero’s requested ?

    Even he can afford, but it will be useless and disgusting.

    No need to get Dirty to Pleased the Clergy !

  • i_am_filipino

    So bishops are more powerful than GOD because they can foretell on what will happen in the future? What if God destroy all the Bishop in 2016

  • tarikan

    I think your influence, CBCP, is declining. On your free time try to read or update yourselves with the recent surveys. It might help temper your preposterous claims. Majority of the people now are discerning. 

    • Ernesto Ancheta

      korek ka dyan, di matanggap ng simbahan na sila ay wala ng maloloko. 

  • Komentador

    “Bishop warns Roxas Church will make him pay in 2016.” Akala ko kasama sa teachings ng Church ni Reyes ang “not to seek vengeance”… Kung magsalita ang paring ito para siya ang Diyos…
     

    • jgl41456

      Vindictive na pala si padre damaso!

  • Komentador

    “We just want what is good for the common good. The Church has no pork
    barrel and no government projects. We can just use persuasion, appeals
    and so on,” Asis said.
    Who needs pork barrel kung may pera ka na non-taxable at iba pang “donation.”

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      Lahat di lang katoliko.

  • Ernesto Ancheta

    hay naku mga obispo puro kayo dada, akala mo totoo kayong may mga sumusunod na alipores na may tapa oro that will follow you blindly. get real po mga ipokrito kayo (pari at obispo)

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      Magno kung ayaw mo di wag. mayabang ka.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WC2VPZRJETRO5KOU4VOZCJXEDY Tamarindwalk

    Imagine that!  The Catholic church is trying to interfere in the political process.
    Aren’t you glad we passed the RH Bill, now?  You see how ugly the priests are.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      Ikaw di ka ugly priest? E ugly duckling?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M6UL2UG4OGTMCLSYGB5MVJ7USE InSearchOfTruth

    However, the bishop was quick to point out that Catholics should not be “single-issue” voters and should consider a candidate’s competence and incorruptibility.

    hanep, sabay bawi….

  • jgl41456

    Speak for yourself Bishop Gabriel Reyes we will support Mr. Mar Roxas, he has more credibility than all of you bishops combined. You will be surprised that it is shepherds like you who are lost and out of touch with the sentiments of the flock.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      bakit nakasama mo ba si roxas?

  • jgl41456

    Who will the good bishop support in 2016 to spite Mar Roxas, Binay and his ex convict buddy, Erap and Enrile, the martial law administrator of Marcos! You bishops deserve Binay et. al. for all we care! You have become like the pharisees in Jesus’ time, hypocrites!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      Maraming mas matino wag lang si roxas.

  • http://twitter.com/tcdowitter Eva Torres

    Wala akong nakitang catholic country na umunlad except probably italy dahil sa teaching nila, ito ang nagpapaprobe sa ating bansa

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      ikaw lang ang hindi umunlad

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6Q3Z4AHJKQTKU3KGCGNID5SHVQ Luap

    I will follow you… follow you wherever you may go… Bishop Reyes naman… matagal na po tapos ang panahon ng kopong-kopong na ang mga nagsisipagsimba eh mga ignorante at sunud-sunuran. 2012 na po ngayun boss! Malaya na ang kaisipan ng karamihan ng tao ngayun.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      Kaya nga malaya ka malaya din ako. Kahit panahhon pa ng kopong-kopong kung di ka tanga ay malaya ka sa ggawin mo. Pakanta kanta ka pa.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ramon.seeker Ramon Seeker

    even if the RCC will not act, Roxas is a clear loser in 2016. Bigay nyu naman sa iba kuya mar.

  • tonto_ka

    how come our bishop become vindictive??? where did they learned the new teaching of vindictiveness…is it what is taught by the new church doctrine???? common bishops…

    • http://www.yahoo.com JOSE RIZAL

      Hindi yan vindictive.
      Ikaw naman, oh, madali kang malito.  Just like other religion, The religious leaders would just remind to their members on the bases of why one must not vote for the candidate…because they think that RH Bill is against the Church’s teaching.  Now, the voters who are aware of the position of the candidate would vote for the person that he/she think is worthy of his/her vote, given the surrounding facts.  It’s still a democratic process.
      Ikaw naman at ang makitid mong pag-iisip.  Ang vindictive ay ang “Tuwad Na Daan”
      Hahahahahaha!

      • tonto_ka

        a democratic process is free from any influence…the doctrine of the church contradicts to what the bishop have said…the parable of the lost sheep…

      • http://www.yahoo.com JOSE RIZAL

        Come again?
        Ah, OK, like that of the congressmen/women/senators who are not influenced by the PORK and other QUID-PRO-QUO considerations. Yeah, we got it.
        Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

      • tonto_ka

        you’re out of line…the bone of the contention here is the message of the bishop that roxas will pay in 2016 election….

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

        magakno?

      • tonto_ka

        baka PAJERO rin…

      • ruthless13

         If pork barrel won the votes for the RH, then it was a worthwhile investment towards the improvement of the lives of women and children.  Over decades, the church has collected so much money and did nothing for the people.  That shows you who are the greedy bastards.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      karapatan nila mag salita.

      • tonto_ka

        magsalita to bring the lost sheep back to its flock…not the other way around….

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

        Dyan na yung Rh na makaahon sa bwat pilipino. kasi entot kayo ng entot di nyo pala pakain anak mo. Ang tanga naman kasi lam ng kung marami anak entot pa ng entot tapos sisihin ang pare. at gobyerno. AN ta nga!!!!!!!!!

      • tonto_ka

        nagkamali ka jan tsong…lam mo lahat ng mga anak ko professional…nde sa RH makaahon ang bawat Pilipino…kailangan magsikap ka…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

        So bakit sila kailangan ng RH di sana pinagaral mo kung anu gunawa mo di ung RH. Alam mo pala e. So bakit kailangan ng Rh?

      • tonto_ka

        wla kong paki-alam sa RH jeray…option yan sa mga mag-asawa kung ano ang plano nila sa buhay….saan sila ngayon???paano sila makarating doon???

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

        dating saan?

      • tonto_ka

        baka makarating lang sa kangkungan ang plano nila kaya ganyan pa rin sila…

      • tonto_ka

        kaw ang tanga jeray….lam mo noon sa kalabaw lang ako nakisakay kasi nde rin amin yun….ngayon may dalawang akong SUV pero pinaghirapan ko naman ng 15 taon sa labas…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

        paki alam ko. Peru di ka mayabang….

      • tonto_ka

        mayabang ba ang katotohanan??? 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

         very good answer.

      • ofwme2807

        oo sa pulpito at harapan ng Diyos may karapatan sya…sa usaping pulitika hubarin nya ang kanyang abito at makipagdebate at please wag gagamitin ang salita ng Diyos kapag nasa pulitika sya…ok aprub

    • ruthless13

       Those bishops are so fearful of becoming irrelevant.  If they lose their jobs, they are unemployable.  In their retirement, they rely on the support of the church that is why they have to comply with what the Vatican wants.  They have been accustomed to the people kissing their hands and cannot see themselves wandering jobless like a lot of people they have conned for a long time.

  • ruthless13

    Congratulations to all those who worked hard towards the passage of the RH bill.  At long last, we have intelligent politicians who have the courage to represent the wishes of their constituents without getting sucked into the dirty business of the church.

    Now, the church shows its vindictive nature by threatening Roxas.  It is so hyprocritical that it claims to be the bastion of morality yet its behaviour shows nothing but an obsession with power.  The church needs to accept the reality of today’s Philippines where people are more educated and independent and cannot be threatened with lengthy waffles with no evidence.

    If the church believes that pork barrel offers contributed to the passage of the bill, then perhaps it should have match them by offering return of the millions of pesos that the people, rich and poor, have contributed over so many years and help feed and educate the poor families.

    Of course, some companies will make money out of the contraceptives like every other business.  The bad thing is that the church will be left out on the billions of pesos because they should not be selling contraceptives.

    The church should change its attitude and behaviour if it wants to remain relevant.  It should stop trumpeting about morality and speak about the realities of life instead and show a helping hand to the needy instead of offering endless masses and prayers.  What the people need is real help – food, shelter, clothing and education.  The priests should get out of their white suits, get their hands and feet dirty and show that they are the real servants of God.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      Sinu kaya sapalagay mo naman ang real servants of god. Magtrabaho ka para mapaaral mo anak mo di kaya kamag anak mo. Di kaya ikaw unang magbigay ng kayamanan mo kung meron ka.  pwede?

      • ruthless13

        The real servants of God are those who use their minds, hands and feet to help the needy.  What have been offered by the church were hot air prayers that delivered nothing.  The church does not pay tax so nothing material was returned to the people who have contributed millions and millions over the years.  The church however paid money to the victims of sexual abuse by priests.  This is where much of the money that came from the poor went to, and the criminals were just moved from one place to another.  This is why the church has no credibility to speak about morality whatsoever, and millions of people have lost their respect for those who run it.  The church does not show compassion but greed.  It struggles to maintain its declining influence in the better informed society.

    • http://www.yahoo.com JOSE RIZAL

      OK!
      May libreng condoms at pills ka na!
      Bravo!
      Hahahahahahahaha!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JEMNLLYAP5EA7SM3A6QUOGV62Q Chris

        Very narrow minded.. yun lang ba laman ng RH bill.. magbasa ka.. you are a disgrace to Jose Rizal.. wla kang hiya.

      • ruthless13

         I’ve had lots of pills and condoms long before the RH bill therefore I do not need a cent from my fellow Filipinos and definitely not from you as you do not pay tax.  From the way you talk, you sound like a squatter.

      • ruthless13

        And don’t worry, the Catholic church invested in condom manufacturing in the past but withdrew when it got caught.  So much lies and hypocrisy.

  • totokalel

    naa na sab ning obispoha nga ni…katong nang rape nga pari sa butuan, nganong gitago man nyo lagi…katong mga pari nga corrupt,ha-in na to sila?atong mga pari nga nag mulistya ug mga bata.asa nato sila???..unya karon pataka,pasagad na pod mo???…may pa warning-warning ka pa!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IWSC74JRY6R3OJ6DO4XJUWECS4 paranoid_penguin

    An evil bishop.

    • http://www.yahoo.com JOSE RIZAL

      Yeah, right!
      ….and Noynoy is god…
      OK, we got it!
      Hahahahahahahaah!

      • ruthless13

        Noynoy is more of a god than your god as your god has done nothing to protect and help those poor women and children.  Show us what your god has done and prove it here.  If you can’t, then you are just another hot air like your bishops.

  • playamoth

    Ang mga Prayle nga naman.  Walang muwang sa katotohanan.  Wala na kayong kredibilidad sa mata ng tao.  Sumasapi na sila sa mga Protestante at iba pang mga animoy Kristyano.  Gumising kayo

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      baka ikaw hindi namulat mula pagkabata. Bakit wala bang ikapo sa ibang relihiyon?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/DNIHT5LCE64MX4FNLRC5I27IGM reden castillo

        ikaw kasi mulat na mulat kapag tsinutsupa ng mga bishops hahaha

    • http://www.yahoo.com JOSE RIZAL

      Si Noynoy lang kasi ang may “kredibilidad”, di ba?
      OK, we got it!
      Hahahahahahaha!

      • ruthless13

         What has your church done for the country?  What have your bishops and priests done for the people?  Tell us, if you can’t, you are just another hot air like them.

  • ofwme2807

    Yan ang tunay na kalagayan at mga pag-uugali ng mga pesteng bishops na yan…Nananakot kasama ba iyan sa tinuturo ng simbahan at pakikialam sa pulitika sa proceso ng pulitika…binigyan kyo ng pagkakataong mag-oppose at mgpresent ng ebidensya at mkipagdebate subalit pagkatapos ng lahat at ng proceso, dapat manaig ang demokrasya yung decision ng majority ang mananaig at lahat ay sumunod…Anong klaseng example ang ipinapakita ng mga bishops at pari na mga ito??Mga naghahari-harian pa kaysa sa gobyerno??Padre Damaso tama na wag ng manakot asikasuhin mo ang iyong mga tagasunod at alagaan sila ng tamang salita at aral ng Diyos…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      Kaya ka pala naalagaan ng tamang salita ng diyos? Alam ko ang peste sa palayan. Dapat uminum ng Endrin…hahaha

      • ofwme2807

        ikaw ano ang tnuro sa iyo ni bishop pajero???ang magbulagbulagaan at mgsunud sunuran at lahat ng salita nila ay tama??kunsabagay siguro may plano kang maging pari sige magpatuloy ka…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/DNIHT5LCE64MX4FNLRC5I27IGM reden castillo

        sarado ang utak ng jeray na yan… siguro isa yan sa mga tsinutsupa ng mga bishops hahaha

      • ofwme2807

        hahaha bless you jeray sabi ni bishop…ganyan talaga ang mga matuwid binabato at niyuyurakan…hahaha

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

        Ta mo libog nyo.. kaya pala galit ka sa pare ikaw red ha…Bka sabi mo. 2 8 – 2 807(to eat) ka ka cguro lagi ha.ikaw ha. 

      • ofwme2807

        kita mo dumi ng isip mo kasi nagsasasama ka sa mga pari at bishops nahahaluan ka ng mga bisyo at gawain nila…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

        2 8- 2 8. May masama ma sa kain ng kain? Ang sinabi ko malibog si reden nabasa mo ba? Ikaw saan ka nahalo? Bakit si reden ay mabait para sayo? aminin…..

      • ofwme2807

        ah bading ka pala hahaha…aminin…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

        Nasa sayo yun kung susunod ka. At kung kung tama ang pag basa mo nun walang pajero na binigay. Isa kang papanlinlang.

      • ofwme2807

        eh di pakitanong ang mga bishops ng CBCP kung sino ang nabigyan at nanghingi pa mismo kasi birthday daw nya???anong nilinlang ko sau??why??/

  • ofwme2807

    si pajero bishop ay nananakot naman kay Sec. Roxas na parang hawak nya sa leeg ito at kailangan syang sundin or else??? OA, cry baby na bishop uhaa uhaa, mga iresponsableng lider ng simbahan, makasarili, mapagmalaki, mapagsamantala sa kanyang mga tao…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      Kaya pala ung ibang  protestante at mga born again na pastor gagara ng kotse. epokreto

      • ofwme2807

        itanong mo sa knila kung saan galing yung gagara kotse nila suportahan kita itanong mo ha?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

        ayaw ko nga. ikaw masipag ka?

      • ofwme2807

        di ba ng-aacuse ka ng walang ebidensya???ikaw ang gumawa nyan

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

        E yaw ko nga e. kulit mo ha.

      • ofwme2807

        hahaha si jeray napikon…ipanalangin mo na lang kaluluwa mo kay padre damaso

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

        28 28 wala ka na masabi anu?

  • Crysis_III

    What can we expect from a pedophile?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      Di Isang hunhang na Diablo….a devil incarnate. Di ba ikaw yun?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/DNIHT5LCE64MX4FNLRC5I27IGM reden castillo

        ikaw yon unggas na demonyito ng mga bishops

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

        haha… palit ka na kasi pangalan…  Sagwa e… hahaha

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/LDQ36M3AGSF3FRSMI3ZKEDJYFM Kevin Christian

        as

      • Crysis_III

        Ako diablo pero ikaw pedophile rin. Sino ang mas demonyo? Hahaha… Kung tayo ilagay sa bilanggoan, sino kawawa ang diablo or pedophile? hahahaha. Nagmukha ka lang tanga… 

  • opinyonlangpo

    The statements sounds more like a threat. The CBCP are vengeful but their God is not, maybe they feel higher position on earth than their God. Hypocrites.

  • Tnosce

    Kawawang Roxas nag asawa pa e wala naman pala ibubuga. Marriage without  purpose siya, kawa din si Kuri na.

    • Karmehlow_An2knee

      Wag ng mangarap si Mar Roxas sa 2016. nagsalita na ang Simbahang Katoliko, may paglalagyan siya sa 2016. Sa kangkungan! Hehehe!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/7U2G7QNT77QUH2RVHU2DMKSVOE Hector melvin

        Karmehlow, ang salita nang simbahan mo ang magpapahiya sa C.B.C.P. dahil hindi ganyang asal ang dapat ipakita ni reyes…nabigyan nang S.U.V. ito noon kaya walang ginawa noong time ni G.M.A. KAHIT na sandamukal ang Anomalya pero ngayon pinabawi ni Pnoy nag alboroto…AT dahil napahiya nang husto dahil  nalantad na nasuhulan din pala ito noon time ni G.M.A. kahit mukhang kagalang galang….

  • http://www.yahoo.com JOSE RIZAL

    Basta alam na namin ang iboboto naming mga Catholics.
    Wag na kayong mag-reklamo, nanalo na nga kayo (naipasa na ang RH Bill) di ba?
    Alam na namin ang kulay ng buhay ni Roxas (akala kasi namin hindi siya “tool”, kagaya kay Noynoy).  Maghanap na lang kami ng matino-tino.
    Ang iba nga diyan, sapilitan, block voting.  Ang sa amin lang naman ay batayan kung sino ang iboboto…at ang mga kandidatong PRO-RH, ay isasantabi muna.  Di ba DEMOKRASYA naman iyan.
    Hahahahahahahaha!  Takot na ba sila…?

    • Don Dee

      GO ahead. This is how democracy works. Utuin nyo ang kayang utuin. Tingnan natin ang tunay nyong pwersa. PNoy RAN without hiding the fact he is PRO RH Bill. Di ba’t kontra rin kayo kay Flavier nuon? At kay FVR? Haha. Go ahead, manakot kayo ng mumu…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4NDRNR4NH2Q4EXS7TMWEEAUWGE Pope

      You don’t speak for all the Catholics in this country.

      You don’t even speak for all the Catholics in your own barangay.

      walang natatakot sa mga sinasabi mo

    • Ricky Bobby

      Hindi porket Catholic pareho na iboboto. FYI lang bro. Don’t be too confident. :D

      • Don Dee

        Yup. NO such thing as the catholic vote. Because  Catholics are intelligent and not dumb sheep who would follow blindly what their church leaders says. I know because I was once Catholic and schooled in a Catholic school.

  • Ralph

    These jeray and JOSE RIZAL commenters are trolling. Do not feed the trolls. LOL

  • bugoybanggers

    Ang mga KATOLIKO ay wala pong tinatawag na COLLECTIVE VOTES. Ano ngayon, malaya magpasya ang mga KATOLIKO. Bakit matatakot kung sumang ayon sa RH Bill? Hindi ito aapekto sa pagtakbo ni Roxas bilang PRES. Malabo siyang manalo kung BIGLA siyang kakabig sa mga KULTO. Hala ka!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YAU43R25CAHGNYPHE6HLAM3V6Y Benjamin

      pfuuuuuuttttttttt…

  • Braincleaner

    Bring it on! Just do it!

  • http://twitter.com/amerlify Shaira Amerl Sales

    Practical na kasi tayong lahat. RH Bill is for us to be able to help OURSELVES na ma-control yung selves natin. It’s actually not just about giving out condoms but to practice safe sex. May isang part dun na about sa sex education to children 10 and above. I think this is really relevant kasi this is the right time para ma-aware na yung mga kids why mali maki-pag sex. Yung common kasi sa atin is that talking about sex is a taboo kaya nasha-shock nalang yung mga bata bakit sila pinagagalitan if they mention anything related to sex. 
    So this is a very practical Bill :D

  • http://www.yahoo.com JOSE RIZAL

    It is already known that there’s NO COLLECTIVE VOTES on the Catholics…so why bother, then.
    Hahahahahahaha!  Basta alam na namin ang iboboto namin…at gagamitin namin ang “gentle persuasion/power of convincing” namin. Bakit ba sila takot?
    Hahahahahaha!  It’s still very much a diplomatic process…and we’re not using any PORK or QUID-PRO-QUO political considerations.  We’re just not voting to those who are in support of the passage of the RH…and it’s not vindictive…it’s part of democracy…we are not shaming them…we just dont vote for them…and we’ll be using that “gentle persuasion”….
    Hahahahahahaha!  Ang nagagalit sa sinasabi ko, ay siyang TAKOT! 
    Oh, takot na ba?  Hahahahahahahaha!  Weder-weder lang yan.

    • Don Dee

      Perhaps you are just too dumb to see the irony of taking the name of our beloved hero. Si Jose Rizal ang gumawa ng karakter na PADRE DAMASO at pinapatay ng simbahang katoliko.

      • http://www.yahoo.com JOSE RIZAL

        “In 1891, Jose Rizal dedicated El Filibusterismo to three Filipino priests executed by the Spanish government in 1872″.
        Get your fact straight!
        Hahahahahahaha!  Do not focus ONLY on Fr. Damaso (as the Catholic Church, because JPRizal didn’t intend to represent him as the Catholic Church).
        Ngayon na madadagan na naman ng SEX ED (dahil sa bagong batas na RH), malilito ka na naman niyan.
        Mag-aral kang mabuti, ha, DON.
        Hahahahahahaha!  

      • Don Dee

        Oh wow, what a delusional version of history!  Sige na, si Padre Damaso ay hindi Catholic priest. Si Rizal hindi pinapatay ng mga Catholic Friars. Nagbasa ka ba talaga ng Noli at Fili? O ng konting history of how that book was banned by the Catholic church in the Philippines at that time?  

        Last comment on this no longer important point. Pero talaga lang ha, wow naman pare. I mean, when I think of  a good model of being subservient to the biddings of the Catholic church, you are right, my first thoughts are, of course, JOSE RIZAL! Lol.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_26N5TXE3YVEC2YE7Z6PXNE5XNQ boy

    Mga Bishops… di po ba ang utos ng Bible ay “Pag binato ka ng bato, batuhin mo ng tinapay?” Why now you were blabbering that YOUR  church will make Roxas pay??? for what??? 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      Boy magbayad nga ng tinapay…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

       pay them with pajero

  • carlbenedict

    Nakasama talaga sa CBCP ang availment nila ng FREE CAR PROGRAM NI GMA nuon.

    Nasan na kaya ang mga BISHOPS na yun? Bishops pa rin or may delicadesa at nag sipag resign?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AVMF52MK2ZW2XCZY5GFQLI72IY JOSHUA

    wala naman boses yan mga damasong yan…tingnan mo CBCP talonan sa RH issue..hehehe hindi ata gumana prayers nila… OK lang mar you don’t need cBCP votes… what you need is INC votes… at least guaranteed yan pag supportado ka ng INC…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      Ang galing na pala mag type ni joshua ngayon? magalling ka na?

  • Jason Cruz

    Itong simbahan talagang nilabas na nila ang kulay nila, nga Hipokrito.   Puro panakot, panglilinlang  ang alam.    Wala ng naniniwala sa iyo nga padre DAMASO.

    Gagamitin na naman ang salitang LORD AT BIBLE para manakot.

    • Don Dee

      Samahan pa ng “hell”, “eternal damnation”, “mumu”, etc. Haynaku. Sino ba talaga tinakot nila? Di na kami mga batang paslit na takot sa mumu! Mga hunghang. Parusahan nyo muna ang pedophile priests para magka konting kredibilidad ulet kayo. Sa ngayon e, tuwing makakita ako ng pari naka abito, ang tingin ko, SEX OFFENDER. Kundi man, protektor ng mga sex offender. Di ba’t ang punishment nila ay ilipat lang ng parish?! Sweep under the rug. Forget it. Dahil ang mga pari ay hindi nagkakasala. Asus. Kayo pa ang mag sermon tungkol sa moralidad. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4NDRNR4NH2Q4EXS7TMWEEAUWGE Pope

    Once again our local clergymen go against what Pope Benedict says about associating with politics.

    “… she (the Church) does not identify with politicians or with partisan interests. Only by remaining independent can she teach the great criteria and inalienable values, guide consciences and offer a life choice that goes beyond the political sphere.” — Pope Benedict XVI

    Our local clergy are so insistent in meddling in politics in complete defiance to the words of the Pope. That’s probably why the Vatican never publicly support the CBCP throughout this entire issue.

    The current flock of head bishops are more concerned about furthering their own selfish political agendas. Perhaps it is time for Filipino Catholics to ask for better church leaders from the Vatican.

    The CBCP has lost sight of it’s true purpose.

  • Braincleaner

    Walk the talk!

  • ofwme2807

    nawala na sa turo ng Diyos ang mga bishops ng CBCP at mga pari nila…ngaun ay pananakot ang ginagawa at ibang threats sa kanyang mga tagasunod…gustong umepal nitong si a. reyes???pakiexplain mo nga father ano ang kasalanan ng mga bumoto at sumusuporta sa RH bill??hindi ba kyo naaawa at di ninyo nakikita ang kahirapan ng buhay ng mga batang Pilipino kunsabagay wala namang pakialam at walang ginagawa ang simbahan ay may ginagawa rin pala kakaunti nga lang at ginagamit pa ito ng simbahan para sa pagpatayo ng simbahan at montessories at private schools ni father di ba???

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      Kasi 28 to eat. tsuknat ng tsuknat di pala kayang pakainin ang anak. Kaya naghihirap ang batang pilipino. Sabi mo kanina sa baba sipag ang kailangan… anu ba talaga 28 to eat?….

      • ofwme2807

        bading pala si jeray hahaha huling huli..kadiri at bastos pa…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

        ok ka lagn 28 to eat? wala ka na masbi kasi supalpal ka no?

  • Don Dee

    I dare the RCC to endorse their own presidential candidate come next elections. I promise you, luluha kayo ng dugo, KISS OF DEATH. Parang endorsement ni pekeng pangulong Gloria. Mag reality check kayo mga obispo, wala kayong kredibilidad! Isang SUV lang katapat ng loyalty nyo. Pweh!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JYJ7XBX7RV7GBR4JIDET5XNTN4 Rizalina Rizal

     For the Catholic Church to support kurakot, self-serving Binay in 2016 Presidential election would be totally unchristian, stupid and self-serving.

  • AsensadongPinoy

    Revenge? Forgive and move on, di ba un ang turo ng simbahan? tsk tsk…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/LDQ36M3AGSF3FRSMI3ZKEDJYFM Kevin Christian

     taenang CBCP yan, mga sakim sa kapangyarihan! gusto sila lagi nasusunod. kala mo mga sugo ng dyos, mga hangal na matatandang obispo! kala mo napaka righteous kung magsalita, mga tao lang kayo! di kayo mga propeta! ,,/,, ,,/,, 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      Puso mo kev kev….

  • Badudels

    si bishop black mailer and vengeful… bawal ng DIYOS yan….

  • Guest

    Akala ni Mar Roxas, maganda yang ginawa niya pagtutulak ng RH bill. May balik yan sa kanya. Lalo lang kakarmahin.

    • lino

       Good Karma? Yes, tama ka!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      SATANAS LANG DAW ANG AYAW SA R.H BILL GUS2 DUMAMI BATANG HUBO! SA KALYE SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_74BHLUWFMQC3GACN35LFKNPCT4 Marvelous D

    they don’t get pork barrel, yes.
    but they’re rich and don’t pay taxes.

    • http://www.yahoo.com JOSE RIZAL

      Eh di sabihin mo kay Noynoy na amiendahan ang Constitution para ma-tax na sila…ganun lang yon.
      Dapat maalam…hindi malamlam…
      Hahahahaha!

  • droachman3

    The Catholic church trying to dictate powers of governing the country ,so they will lose more votes soon . The people want divorce and the RH bill but the church wants to keep the country poor and down trodden in desperation and poverty. this really has nothing to do with morals or saving souls.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_74BHLUWFMQC3GACN35LFKNPCT4 Marvelous D

    take a look: binay is expanding his family’s political dynasty and kowtows to the church’s every whims. so people, BEWARE! he’s a threat to national reforms!

  • Braincleaner

    Si Mar Roxas ay matatalo sa 2016 hindi dahil sa RH law. Siya ay matatalo, dahil sa kahirapang dinaranas at dadanasin pa sa loob nang apat na taon mula sa 2013, nang taungbayan. Makikilala si Mar Roxas bilang protektor ng telecommunications cartel, gambling lords tulad nang jueteng, at lahat ng mga cartel na protektado ni Benigno Aquino III(tulad nang langis, tubig, kuryente, atbp. Sa aga nilang nangangampanya at walang ginawa kungdi mamulitika, mangampanya, at magfund raising, tulad ni Jejomar Binay, pareho silang masusunog nang maaga sa pulitika, at uungusan nang mas mga lilitaw na popular na kandidato pagkatapos ng 2013 elections. Walang mananalong kandidatong pangulo na nakasama si Benigno Aquino III sa 2016 dahil sa mas magiging matindi ang kahirapan at kaapihan na hindi kakayaning pasubalian nang anumang propaganda at  psywar. Anim na taong ririndihin ang taongbayan, sa ilalim nang grupong ito nila Aquino III, Mar Roxas, at Jejomar Binay, nang mga patakaran, programa, at mga batas, na pawang pagpapatuloy lamang nang kay Gloria Macapagal Arroyo. At dahil walang magiging pagbabago sa kabuhayan at kagalingan, at lalong maghihirap ang taongbayan, sila ay matatalo!

    • Betz Chui

      Do you live in Mars? You are soooo out of touch…and probably brainwashed ng mga communists! If not, may sira ka siguro…go see a doctor!! Wala sa realidad ang mga sinabi mo!

      • ofwme2807

        sorry he is a bi-polar…and in a long state of denial…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

        May bi-polar ka pa nalalaman. 2 eat

      • Braincleaner

        Long state of denial ka pa diyan ha! OFW ka ba ofwme2807? Kung OFW ka..bago ka magsalita ng “long state of denial”, tanungin mo muna sarili mo kung bakit ka napadpad sa ibang bansa para maglingkuran! Bakit walang maibigay na mas magandang buhay ang Pilipinas sa mga katulad mo at milyung-milyong OFWs, dito sa PIlipinas! At mas pinili pang mahiwalay sa pamilya para makipagsapalaran sa ibang bansa! Bago ka magsalita kung sino sa atin ang nasa “bi-polar…and in a long state of denial”!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        Ilang taon ka na ba?  Bakit hindi mo alam kung bakit nauso ang OFW…OCW ang dating tawag diyan, ‘overseas contract worker’.  Nauso ‘yan bago pa natuklap ng Khomeini revolution ang Shah of Iran.  Nang mag-EDSA revolt, pabirong nasabi ng isang OFW sa isang reporter ng Saudi Gazette sa Jeddah, na ‘bigyan kami ng armas at tutulong kami kay Gen Ramos sa Crame’.  1986 ‘yan.  Ibig sabihin, panahon ni Marcos, nang mag-alpasan sa kahirapan ang mga Pinoy kaya nauso ang OCW, noon pang 1970s.

      • Braincleaner

        Oh yeah Betz Chui.. Wait until after the 2013 elections and see the realignment of political forces for the 2016 elections. Then tell me who is so out of touch between us. Go around and visit your country, and see your own people wallowing in poverty and destitution! You think your yellow canards just because they have their media to brainwash the people will remain popular despite their betrayal of people’s interests! Study your history you yellow freak! GMA was popular too! She led an EDSA II diba? Nasaan siya ngayon!  Brainwashed ako? You probably are..by hacendero elitist politics! See a doctor! Your blood must have already turned yellow for all you know! A dreaded decease that reduces anyone afflicted to refer to anybody as communists when they are bankrupt of ideas to express!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

         uy name calling na ang ginagamit na tactic sa usapan…. ibig sabihin natatalo na.. name calling is the lowest form of argument… hindi nga argument ang name calling pala…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        Nasa climax na yata at obvious na ang ending ng EDSA II nang humantad siya…not necessarily to align herself with the people, but more on the position soon to be vacated?   Nasaan siya ngayon?  Hindi mo alam?  Kaya mo namang subukan ang taas ng popularity niya…subukan mong paglakarin siya in public view nang walang security,   

        Alam mo ba kung anong justiication, if there was any, kung bakit ni-release niya si Erap?

        Ang bini-brainwash, ‘yong may brain…Ayaw mo ng dilaw?  Kung baga sa itlog, gusto mo lahat ng puti pati balat, kaysa sa masustansyang dilaw sa loob?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IIQWIDUFNZMVKO23HOKAF3WBYE cedric

      Saan naman galing ang pag-iisip na yan? Kay Chiz?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      Kailangan mo talaga ang braincleaner…siguruihin mong gumamit nang talagang mabisa na kaya ring magneutralize ng baho…parang imburnal ang laman ng utak mo.

  • kismaytami

    Tax the church, their schools, bank accounts and investment funds and they shall be free to meddle with state affairs.

    • http://www.yahoo.com JOSE RIZAL

      Bago ka putak ng putak, sabihin mo muna kay Noynoy na baguhin ang Cory Constitution.
      Hahahahahahaha!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        BISHOP IPINAPATAY MO SI RIZAL TAPOS GAGAMITIN NINYO D2 SOBRA NA PAMBABABOY NINYO!! DAMASO!!!

      • kismaytami

        As if naman na gusto ko yang konstitusyon na gawa ng mga tsekwang carnival damaso sin at cory cojuangco.

        Sabihan mo rin yung mga putak nang putak nyong mga mitsubishop na tigil-tigilan ang pakikialam sa estado.

  • julieboy

    Separation of CHURCH and STATE affairs..That is why our country is in such bad shape.

    • http://www.yahoo.com JOSE RIZAL

      Tell it to the marines…or to INC, or to Eddie Villanueva,or to Quiboloy, or to Mike Vilarde, and the like…siksik, liglig, umaapaw daw ang 10% OBLIGATORY TO god (TITHE).
      Hahahahahahaha!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        BISHOP WAG MO GAMITIN MUKA NI RIZAL IPINAPATAY NINYO TAPOS GAGAMITIN NINYO D2 SA NET GAMITIN MO SI CALUNGSOD REBULTO!! WAG NAMAN NINYO BABUYIN ANG MUKA NG PANG BANSANG BAYANI DAMASO!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OGNBATQP6PD7MV7P6GPSPW7PSQ Tommy

    Makakakuha pa rin ng boto si Mar Roxas sa 2013 kahit ayaw ng simbahan sa pagkatao nya.

    Maigsi ang memory ng Pinoy.  Tignan natin ang nangyari kay Juan Flavier.  Kahit hayagan ang pangampanya ng Simbahang Katoliko laban sa kanyang kandidatura pero nanalo pa rin sya sa pagka-senador.  Kasi bukod sa unique ang itsura ni Flavier ay may sense of humor sya na tanggap ng masa.  Over-exposed na rin sya sa telebisyon nung panahong iyon (Lets DOH it!!)  

    Hindi na naalala ng mga tao ang pagiging Anti-life advocate ni Flavier ng araw mismo ng botohan kaya nanalo pa rin sya bilang Senador.  
     
    Kapag hindi agresibo ang kampanya ng Simbahan laban sa mga pulitiko na nagsulong ng Anti-life bill na ito ay hindi malayo na manalo uli sila.

    • white scorpion

      the church is looking down at the ilonggos. the church thinks the probisiyanos will just listen to what they said. the priest still lives in the LUNGGA NG DAGA. they failed to see that the PROGRESS OF CIVILIZATION had already reached the provinceS. well ! perhaps except the church. lagi kasi sila napapalibutan ng mga sipsip sa pari. 

  • http://www.yahoo.com JOSE RIZAL

    Pagmaghanap ba ng matinong candidato, maliban kay Mar Roxas, ay PRO-BINAY na?  May iba pa naman sigurong matinong candidato, di ba?  Wag na si Mar Roxas.
    Wag namang ganyan. 
    Hahahahahaha!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      !

  • Guest

    The Catholic Church would go for Binay rather than Sec. Mar Roxas in 2016. Lagot kay Mar, lagot ka!

  • nelson quijano

    The Catholic church is the arbiter between bad and good.God uses this church to remind people of things concerning morality.I still believe that people with good conscience will listen to the voice of God and his church even this bill will become law. But, those people in congress who supported this bill the heavens cry for vengeance is upon them. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/akosijepri Jeffrey Losanes

      I have nothing against Roman Catholics but please, religion is not equal to church. Disappointing as it may seem, the people of the ‘church’ have become bad examples and have been putting the ‘religion’ in shame.

      Yes, let the people listen to god and consult with his/her beliefs/religion BUT please don’t let them blindly listen to the ‘church’. Let them decide. Be faithful to your religion, not to the church.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/AFJOB4FJJW3ICW4E665NTZCGBE Raymond R

      How can you sure that they are talking to “God” and not just talking to them selves and their egos..? how can you sure that they have good conscience..? and how can you sure that there is heaven..? ..think about it..maybe all of this “fanatic” ideas are just a concepts of your brain and not rely on reality..

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

       morality yourself! sino kaya immoral? mas immoral mga pari na gumagawa ng kung ano anong kalokohan at ginagamit nila ang poder sa simbahan…. MAGSITIGIL KA! hahahahaha

    • white scorpion

      haven’t you heard, vatican could be the 3RD ANTI-CHRIST. he has made the devil sign….

  • ashleybulls

    sabi nga sa batas — Grave Threat!…Tindi manakot parang mafia…

  • Guest

    Kaya mga bishops, we have to unite para di makaporma iyang sa Sec. Roxas. Delikado yan kapag yan ang naging president ng Pilipinas.

    • white scorpion

      mas delikado ang isang aspirant na senador na pro RH bill, saka isa pang future aspirant. baka magising KA one day iba na may-ari ng lupa mo. ……..that is kung sa iyo ang bahay at lupa na tinitirhan mo ngayon.

  • plunderer

    POPE for president of the Philippines, oh my God!!!…pls go to Youtube and watch ” KNOW YOUR ENEMY” uploaded by TheFuelProject 

    • http://www.yahoo.com JOSE RIZAL

      Kaya kayo madaling ma-brainwash kasi lahat ng unverified upload ng youtube ay akala niyo totoo. 
      Sa pag-aaral o pananaliksik hindi pa rin nagbabago ang process ng “verification of facts” based on a reliable sources (gaya ng mga libro ng mga pantas).
      Hahahahahahaha!  Mga yellow zombie, talaga, oo.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

        PLS! TYPE MAYOR LITO ATIENZA ABORZIONIST YOUTUBE BISHOPS KILLS INOCENT MOTHERS PLS WATCH NAKAKAPANGILABOT SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE!!

      • jumpah

         you are one of MY ENEMY…hahahahahahahaa

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        .

  • TEAM PNOY

    Probably not Binay v. Roxas 2016

    But Binay v Aquino 2016

    Guess who this aquino is.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      Michael Ray AQUINO?  Wow!  He’just been released, but DOJ still after him

      • TEAM PNOY

        Good guess. hihihi. But not him, of course.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    NANAKOT PA ANG SATANAS NA BISHOPS DAMASO!!!!

  • Mark Philip Wu

    Is that Christian values at work? Threatening someone to get your way? I’m suuure that’s what Jesus would have done, he must be so proud of these bishops.

    People are mistaken when they give reverence to these men as if they’re some direct link with God or something. They’re men! Nothing more. They are no less corruptible than any of us, and are no less willing to abuse authority as any of our government officials

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

    pay, as in pay the bishops with pajero?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      MAG BAYAD NG BUWIS ANG SIMBAHAN KATOLIKO TINATAGO NILA MALALAKING NEGOSYO NILA BAWI WALA BAYAD SA BUWIS 17BILLION YUNG PERA NILA KINALTASAN NABA NG BUWIS YAN!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1469145021 Ramil Salig

    dapat gawin sunod nang pamahalaan ay lagyan ang tax yangmga simbahan..catholic school..buksan ang mga bank accounts nang simbahan lalo na mga pope…singilin nang mag land tax ang mga lupain nang mga catholic churches and property at higit sa lahat usisahin mga ivestment nila dba sila mga mayayaman sa bansa natin…look ngaka Ondoy nag ka pablo may simbahan katoliko bah kusang nagbigay dba asking pas a mga mamayaman…kaloka sila ako pa mga bishop umupo nalang sila at manalangin sa mga tahimik na kasalanan nila..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/AFJOB4FJJW3ICW4E665NTZCGBE Raymond R

      dapat talaga hingan sila ng tax..aba gumagamit sila ng mga facilities ng gobyerno tapos wala manlang silang share..ang lakas pang mandikta.. feeling nila sila lang nakakaalam ng lahat..mga hipokrito pa..haayy

      • dangerzone1234

        oo nga e yaman nila dami pera 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO!!!

    • $20722540

      ang mangagaya!!!…satanas ka talaga

  • dangerzone1234

     The bottom line is simple. The RC wants to trash the RH bill in order to continue their dominance through increasing population. The RH bill  if signed into law will limit their number and may jeopardize their kingdom and not to mention the unabated BAC converts. which surely hurt Vatican’s income. Mar Roxas ur in the right track, go on. This is the first time that political leaders defy RC hierarchy’s call and it’s a good sign, emancipating from their evil’s ring.

  • Guest

    The bishops are right. Mar Roxas pays a big role in pushing for the RH
    bill. All LP senators na nag-yes sa RH sa 2ndreading, may bonus kay
    Mar.

     

    • lino

       Sigurado ka? Ano evidensya mo? Daldal ka ng daldal!

  • $14745135

    Less population, less money sa binyag. Simple reason…Money.

  • AgnosticLeader

    what an irony. that the church is after political power but it has no influence

    • $20722540

      political power??? are they running for an elected post??  they are just drying to influence the decisions of the executive dep’t.  what wrong with that?

  • ODAPAIN

    Love our enemies,if we want more growth for our country then  pay taxes,cant influence our votes but try to influence our faith in GOD.can the CBCP give a better govt.if we vote for whom they see fit for office.If they are truly not after political power why then do they try to influence it.

  • kulkat8

    Kung may asawat mga anak ang mga pari,malalaman nila kung gaano kahirap ang pasuporta sa malaking pamiliya.  Responssible parenthood is the main thing here.  Procreate what you can afford. If you have the resources to support 8 children or more do it.  If you have limited resources then you have to limit the size of your family.

    • dangerzone1234

      Tumpak!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

       korek

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      I understand and agree with you.  Altho, might be worth mentioning that in my case, it was a matter of faith.

      I used to be heavy drinker, smoker, at times landing in police confinement for some misdemeanors I got myself in.  After birth of my second child, we thought of availing free issues of contraceptives and condoms from our Company.  During those early times, there were already family clinics around.

      May napuna kaming pantal-pantal sa misis ko, sa paggamit ng contraceptives.  Lumala ang pangamba naming dalawa nang may makita kaming dugo sa ebak ng 5-month old child ko.  Nag-voice ng concern ang Nanay ko nang malaman.  Nagpayo siya na labag sa utos ng Simbahan, base na rin sa utos ng Diyos, ang paggamit ng artificial methods, idinugtong pa niya:  KAPAG BINIGYAN KA NG DIYOS NG ANAK, MAGSIKAP KA LANG, HINDI KA NIYA PABABAYAAN.

      Stop ang contraceptives.  The next 3 years, I added 3 more children.  5 na ang anak ko.  Di pa nagbabago ang suweldo ko. Marami pa rin akong bisyo.  Sino ang mahal ko…ang barkada ko, o ang mga anak ko?  Ang mga anak ko natural!

      Bumuglaw ang job openings abroad.  OCW pa ang tawag no’n (overseas contract worker).  Napunta ako sa Middle East.  Believe it or not, sa lugar na walang religious freedom, dahil sa walang mapaglilibangan, nahalungkat ko ang Bibliya.  Wala ring alak, kaya napatunayan ko sa Nanay ko na kaya ko ang buhay na walang alak.

      Nadagdagan ng isa pa, naging anim ang aming mga anak — mga adults na sila ngayon…ang pinakapobre sa kanila, ay may sariling brand new Mazda, empleyado ng isang napakalaking organisasyon na kilala kahit saan, kahit ng mga hindi nakapag-aral sa atin. At maaliwalas ang kabuhayan naming mag-asawa…hindi kami magiging pabigat sa aming mga anak sa panahon ng aming katandaan.

      PRO-LIFE ako…pero, happy rin ako na bigyan ng FREE or PRO-CHOICE ang iba.

      • kulkat8

        Congratulations Ding.  You could be an inspiration to others.

  • Hfxwst

    What an irresponsible thing for a Bishop to say – he should be expelled from the Country and a harsh note sent to the Vatican demanding a better quality of Catholic leader or restrictions on the Catholic Church will result.  

    Given the amount of money this church sucks out of the Philippines, I am sure the pope will comply.

    • $20722540

      what a stupid idea

  • Scorpjun

    Mas lalong maraming boboto kay Mar dahil lider siya na may paninindigan, hindi nagpapadala sa “pressure” ng anuman o sinuman. 

    It’s about time that church has to face its own dilemma: that people now read the bible, understand it at hindi na nagpapauto sa mga “Padre Damaso” na nililito ng salitang latin ang mga “istupido” at “pobreng indio”!

    • etomacq

      May paninindigan? Hindi nagpapadala sa pressure kanino man?

      Kaya pala sunud sunuran at bow ng bow kay Noynoy… kulang na lang hugasan nya wetpaks ng master nya.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        Parang hindi ka nakapag-aral…kaya niya tinanggap ang designation niya as Secretary of DILG ay supported niya ang policies ng Presidente dito, at boss niya ang Presidente. 

        Kung may natutuhan ka sa pinag-aralan mo, gamitin mo lang, ayos na!

      • etomacq

        Kahit ano pa sabihin mo brod.. Kaya nga bow sya ng bow sa master nya kasi nga wala sya sariling paninindigan. Hindi nya kaya tumayo sa sarili nyang paa! Kung may paninindigan sya hindi nya kailangan sumipsip kay Noynoy…

         

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

        Nakita mo na ba siya’ng nakatayo sa paa ni PNoy?

      • etomacq

        di lang nakatayo sa paa ni Noy… naka kandong pa at nagbebeso beso!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002834692458 Kurukatoji Kushikimeariarimoto

      Tama! Lalong mananalo si Mar sa susunod na presidential election. Teka, ayaw na naman yata nyang lumaban ng pag-ka presidente ´di ba? 

    • $20722540

      lp said that members will be sanctioned if they don’t follow the orders of malacanang…so tinakot na sabit sila sa election funds next year and ala pdaf 

  • white scorpion

    i know you guys is not after “THE POWER.” then what do you call the way you dictate the state,….. “KILI KILI POWER?”   REMEMBER, you are the CHURCH, and not the state. remember the answer in the bible. give caesar what is due him, and give GOD what is due god. that is the very reason why there IIIIIIIS separation between STATE and CHURCH. kung gusto niyo gumawa kayo ng CBCP partyl!st. kung kayo nga, hindi niyo kaya panindigan ang kaparian niyo. NANGHIHIMASOK pa kayo sa state matters. ayaw niyo naman magbayad ng TAX. ilan sa inyo may MORAL DEGRADATION. masyado na kayong  FEELING  ah!!!!!!  nananakot pa kayo sa mga political leaders natin. tapos MAGBIBINTANG kayo sa malakanyang. 

    hinahamon ko kayo habang hindi pa batas ang RH bill. kupkupin niyo ngayon pa lang ang mga bata ng lansangan.       O! ANO! KAYA NIYO BA????

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002834692458 Kurukatoji Kushikimeariarimoto

      Ha ahahhhh!!!

    • $20722540

      salita kayo ng salita ng separation blah blah na yan pero hindi naman ninyo alam ang ibig sabihin anong what is due God???  responsibilidad ng gobierno na kupkupin yong batang sa langsangan hindi ng simbahan.  paghindi magawa ng gobierno ang trabaho nila tapos ibibigay mo ang responsibilidad sa simbahan?  yan ba ang pagkakaintindi mo ng separation blah blah  stupid

      • white scorpion

        that’s the very same reason na huwag nang MANGHIMASOK sa hindi mong gawain. buti kung nagbabayad ng TAX. baka hindi mo alam simbahan ang pinakaMAYAMAN sa pilipinas. panay pa ang hingi ng donation. kung hindi nila kaya ipantulong ang pera nila. as usual, huwag nang manghimasok. nakakasiguro ka ba ang mga kaparian, nasusunod nila ang preaching nila? LOOK AROUND, OPEN YOUR EYES.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

    “FOR THOSE WHO DID NOT SHOW UP”, they did not necessrily belong to the ANTI group.  it might have been that they did not have the courage to show their true colors, knowing too well that this might cost their political careers.  Others, might really have legitimate reasons in not being able to make it.

    Whatever may the reasons be, THE CHURCH DOES NOT HAVE ANY JUSTIFICATION TO ISSUE ANY THREAT AGAINST ANYONE, especially against those WHO DO NOT HAVE ANY DEREOGATORY RECORD IN THEIR POLITICAL CAREERS.  By so doing, THEY ARE GIVING IMPETUS to DIRTY POLITICIANS WHO HAD BEEN TOO SMART NOT TO DISPLAY THEIR REAL STAND WHILE THE ISSUE WAS VERY MUCH ON THE AIR, as by doing so would jeopardize their political ambitions.

    Why would the Church leadership blacken its own self in the eyes of Catholic believers, to the false rejoicings of those who have been maligning the faith.  ISSUING THIS THREAT IS AN ACT OF VENGEANCE, WHICH IS NEVER CONDONED IN THE CHURCH’s TEACHINGS?

    CALLING THE ATTENTION OF CATHOLIC LEADERSHIP:  take note of the posts in this particular news item, most especially those who had all the time been defending and protecting the CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN FAITH against constant and consistent villifiers of our faith. 

    WE REMAIN LOYAL AND FAITHFUL FOLLOWERS OF CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN FAITH, AND WE WILL NEVER FOLLOW BLINDLY ANY STAND THAT WE BELIEVE NOT IN CONFORMITY WITH THE TEACHINGS OF THIS FAITH.

  • Nelson Tordecilla

    LINTEK TALAGA ANG UTAK NITONG MGA BISHOP NATIN!! ANONG GANTI ANG SINASABI NYO VS. ROXAS? ANG DAPAT SA INYO AY MANAHIMIK NA LAMANG ANG TANGGAPIN ANG GUSTO NG NAKAKARAMI DAHIL WALA NAMAN KAYONG MABUTING NAITUTULONG AT NAGAGAWA SA BANSANG PILIPINAS. SAKIT LANG NG ULO ANG NAKAKASISIRA LANG MGA ANNOUNCEMENT NYO SA MEDIA. PWEDE BA LUMAGAY NAMAN KAYO SA LUGAR AT PABAYAAN ANG GOBYERNO SA MGA PROGRAMA NILANG PANG TAONG BAYAN.. ALWAYS OBSERVED THE RULES BEHIND SEPARATION OF STATE and CHURCH…

    • $20722540

      anong rules???  ano kamo separation of state and church…abir??? 

  • zdrx

    the church has no business interfering in government affairs. the government is doing everything to protect the country from the results of the church’s failure. and where was the church failed?
    THE CHURCH FAILED TO GUIDE ITS FLOCK DUE TO NEGLIGENCE!!! here’s how:

    1) unwed mothers and illegitimate children are mostly catholics.
    2) catholics are mostly promiscuous and accounts to high percentage of teen pregnancy.
    3) catholics accounts to large percentage of illicit sex and abortions.
    4) being unguided, most catholics are incapable of responsible sex and responsible parenthood.
    6) with too many mouths to feed, most catholics lives in sub human conditions.
    7) growing up in hunger, catholics becomes greedy and resorts to corruption and stealing.
    8) being greedy, corrupt, lacking moral guidance and accounts for 90% of population, no wonder our country is devastated and in total mess.

    the church should concentrate on its flock and clean its rank of pedophiles, gays, hedonists and greedy materialistic priests, so it can be taken seriously by its followers. if it won’t feed the starving  people…the church should put its house in order and guide its people….and not mess with something that is not within its sphere.

    • Boo Lahga

      Hear ye, hear ye, Cedric…

    • $20722540

      bakit ka affected catholic ka ba?

      • Yobhtron

        Defensive ang sakristan ni Damaso.

      • zdrx

        sa tono ng sagot nya mukhang tinamaan at ininda…kya naging defensive. hindi kelangan ng depensa kung tama ang ginawa ng simbahan.

        punto por punto lang dapat tinukoy nya kung saan mali sa kumento ko at punto por punto rin dapat paliwanag nya kung ano ang tama sa ginawa ng simbahan. 

      • zdrx

        oo nga, bakit ka ba apektado sa kumento ko. catholic ka ba? hindi importante kung ano relihiyon ko…ang isyu ay kung tama ang ginagwa ng simbahan o hindi.

        bilang pilipino, apektado ako sa KAPALpakan ng simbahan na nagdulot ng katangahan at paghihirap ng bansa.

      • $20722540

        so hindi ka catholic kaya bashing lang ang ginagawa mo.  ingit lang yan.  kasi puro sweeping statements na ala basis…napulot mo lang sa buwan, meron ka lang masabi laban sa catholics. bakit mo sinisisi ang simbahan sa katangahan at kahirapn sa bansa?  bakit ang simbahan ba ang nagpapatako ng gobierno?  nagrereport ba si pnoynoy, mga senador, mayor sa simbahan?  sagot sagot???

      • zdrx

        1) hindi ba katangahan at idolatry ang pagdasal sa rebulto? nagpakahirap at namatay si hesus sa krus…para isalba ang makasalanan. ginawa na ni hesus, pero bakit pinapayagan ng simbahan na magpenetensya at magpapako sa krus ang mga katoliko? magsasalba rin ba sila ng sangkatauhan?  di ba napakalaking katangahan yun?
        2) hindi simbahan nagpapatakbo ng bansa…sila ang nagdidikta. at lumubo ang populasyon…hayun hirap mga pamilya sa dami ng papakanin…na ayaw namang tulungan ng simbahan pakanin. sa gutom ang daming magnanakaw. karamihan mga tangang katoliko. pati sa gobyerno karamihan ng kurakot ay katoliko.
        3) mga anti RH na politiko ang kumakapit sa simbahan para sa boto. kita mo naman…pati politika kinukurap ng simbahan. influence peddling…votes for the “obedient”…bahala na ang kapakanan at kinabukasan ng bayan. prinsipyo at panindigan ba yun ng tunay na congressman at senator?? sa takot na matalo sa eleksyon at mawalan ng kupit… si tongresman at sinatong, yumuko sa simbahan para sa basbas at boto…para sa kupit at hindi sa ano pa man.

      • $20722540

        anti-catholic ka pala hindi pro-rh…lumalabas ang tunay na kulay mo. sorry na lang po paalam na at balik-balik na ang sagot mo

      • Ross18

        Kabayan ignore GOAVAN bingi na yan at sarado isipan pareho ng mga pari. Nagbubulg-bulagan sa totoo. The truth will hurt, oh yes! but it will set you free.

      • http://twitter.com/romza825 Row me oh!

        Naloko ka lang ng pastor mo pare, ikaw ang tanga dahil napaniwala ka niya na ang katoliko ay nagdasal ng rebulto. Hindi yan ang itinuro sa amin tanga.

      • zdrx

        kung hindi itinuro…ba’t nyo ginagawa!!! ang pagluhod, pagdasal at paghingi ng saklolo o tulong sa harap ng imahe, imbis na sa Diyos… ay IDOLATRY. ang pagpunas ng panyo at paghalik sa paanan ng rebulto ay IDOLATRY.ang ganyan pong gawain ay FANATICISM at nakakahiya. wag na nating bangitin ang palabas na penetensya at pagpapako ng sarili sa krus. NAKAKASUKANG  KATANGAHAN NA YUN…AT KINUKONSENTE NG SIMBAHAN.

      • litobetita

        Pare, wag ka ng makipag diskusyon sa mga anti-catholic. Alam naman natin ang style ng mga yan….saka mas alam natin ang religion natin kesa sa kanila. Hayaan na lang natin silang dumakdak ng dumakdak, at the end of the day eh nandun pa din tayo….”cause the church will live forever”. Hayaan mo na ang mga lapastangan na yan.

    • blowcoldblowhot

      Please give the sources of your arguments.

      • zdrx

        just get off off your bishop’s underwear…breath some fresh air…immerse with the people… open your mind…and you will set yourself free.

        no need to be technical…common sense will do. here’s how: being more or less 90% of filipinos… they comprise about 90% of the problem. if the church guides their follower’s sexual moralities and responsibilities, it will solve 90% of the problem. but the church refuses…so the govt is forced to do everything to solve the population problem. if only the church did not fail in their duties to preach sexual moralities and responsible sex…we have no RH bill to debate upon here.

  • Rio Legaspi

    Ok church people, show what you got…still you don’t understand the whole picture. Do not pretend to be paternal to the people, because your integrity is also in question…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

    Bishops keep denying they’re interfering in states affairs and politics.  Here’s a clear example of their hypocrisy and lies warning Mar Roxas.  Roxas is not bothered because there’s never a Catholic vote.  He has other Christian groups like INC for support.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKNJSBHI7OJOQYL3XO2WYR44PQ Abu

    Mga Pari na to wala ng magawa.  Imbes na ipalaganap ninyo ang magandang balita sa tao, iba ang pumapasok sa mga kakukote nyo.  Di bagay sa isang alagad ng Diyos ang nakikialam sa gawain ng gobyerno.  Nagpapahalata kayong hindi kayo tunay na maka-Diyos.

    Wala na kayong gustong gagawin kundi ang makialam sa gobyerno…..

    • $20722540

      pumunta ka sa simbahan lingo lingo para malaman mo ang magandang balita sa tao.  ang mga bishops ay naglobby lamang base sa kanilang paniniwala.  ang masama ay ang ginawa ng malacanang na galamay na si roxas ay tinakot yong lp members at iba pa congressman…meron daw sanctioned, anong sanctioned?  eh di pdaf and elections funds…siempre buto kanalang yes otherwise wala ka nang kabuhayan kawawa naman hindi sila makakadrive ng mga navigator, suburban, escalade, etc. 

  • panhase

    This is the country of the Filipino people, of all Filipinos. Not the country of the Bishops, not the country of the Catholic church and not the country of the Vatican.
    You, as a Bishop, can have your say about our politics as a private citizen but not as a religious leader.
    And specially you do not have a right to interfere in our politics as a leader of a religious group.

    • Ross18

       Agree, well said kabayan. The CBCP dont speak for US.

      • $20722540

        catholic ka ba?

      • Ross18

        Your the only with an opinion going the other way. i feel so sorry for you kasi kaunti na lang naloloko ng simbahan. Everyone is fed up and tired of chuirch forcing its teaching without thingking at ikaw na lang ang nagbubulag bulagan. We are living in a different era and time, napag-iwanan na yun idea nyo na obselete na. Accept it and goodluck.

      • $20722540

        who cares?  it doesn’t matter.  majority of the writers here are not catholics and have been bashing the church.  I’m old enough to know what is right and wrong in this world…to say my beliefs are obsolete is amateurish.  I’m speaking from my own background and experience which tends to be conservative.  May i say that if you are not a catholic, you have no right to criticize the bishops because you don’t believe the teachings of the church in the 1st place. what say?

      • panhase

         How do you know that the majority of the writers here are not Catholics? You are just assuming.
        And then you are saying that one would not have a right to criticize the Bishops if one is not a Catholic. Well, the Bishops opend it because they stepped into the political arena. They criticized the elected government, they were threatening officials of the state. So every citizen has also the right to criticize the Bishops on their position. They do not like it? So bad. You know the proverb “if you can´t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen”?
        And I am baptized as a Catholic, so i do have the right to criticize also the teachings and the value system of the church.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ABEPTOVR322UT6ZQDDVUZ3AUHI Ricky

        Valid ba ang baptism nyo?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ABEPTOVR322UT6ZQDDVUZ3AUHI Ricky

        The CBCP does not speak for US, but for the PHILIPPINES!

    • $20722540

      ang message ng mga bishops ay para sa mga catholics lamang kaya kong hindi ka catholic huwag kang makinig…simple lang, diba?

  • Hfxwst

    We should recall our Ambassador to the Vatican – Ireland has done this to protest inappropriate behavior by Catholic officials.  Philippine Bishops are far worse than those in Ireland.

    As a Filipino I a offended by the Catholic Officials here.  This can not be tolerated any longer from a tax free charity.

    • UrHONOR

      Emen, emen!

    • $20722540

      bakit nasa ireland ka ba?

      • Hfxwst

        Ireland is predominately Roman Catholic as is the Philippines. For years it operated under a code of silence with the Catholic Church until a Priest was finally charged with the sexual abuse of a child, and then hundreds f such cases came into the open. More are still to come. When the people finally elected a government not committed to the Church, their economy prospered. They are currently dealing with 16th century Catholic Laws that stopped a pregnant non catholic from having an abortion even though her life was threatened She died. Very similar countries – Ireland is slightly further ahead in its development and progress in overcoming catholic doctrine. Mostly it is driven by Catholics themselves.

      • $20722540

        it appears that the church or the catholics church is being blamed, if the country is not progressing…similar in Ireland?  thats unfortunately, no matter what you do, the church doesn’t run the gov’t or the church has nothing to do in running a gov’t, so to say that a country is not progressing due some doctrine of the church, has no basis.  this discussion has become convoluted bec. the article is about church influence in the coming elections but has become a bashing time about the priest sexual abuse blah blah…an entirely different issue.  the critical issue why our country is not progressing because of too much politics – motivated only by vested interest, corruption (from the highest to lowest level of the bureauracy), etc. etc.

      • Hfxwst

        Perhaps – there are differences in the two countries. Here, there is an arrogance in the Catholic Church, clearly promoted by the Church Officials – to the point of being disrespectful of other religions. The world is trying to move to a place where all are entitled to their beliefs. Here, the Catholic Church wishes their doctrine to be reflected in the laws of the land and therefore forced on all. This causes divisiveness – one only has to looks at the Islamic Community in the Philippines. The Catholic Clergy in other countries are respectful for the most part, and know their place in society. They are humble and respectful and helpful to the poor and the dis advantaged. Our Catholic Clergy is arrogant, spoiled, over indulged and aspire to politics rather than christian beliefs – they are NOT good role models. There are at least 20 million non Catholics and 20 million non practicing Catholics in this country – Bishops DO NOT speak for them – and there is no place for exclusively Catholic doctrine in our laws.

      • blowcoldblowhot

        Ka Manalo ka ba? 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ABEPTOVR322UT6ZQDDVUZ3AUHI Ricky

        baka dating daan. ang iglesia at dating daan ay magkaaway pero friends sila pag against the catholic church. observation lang ha

      • http://twitter.com/romza825 Row me oh!

        jkk

  • hustlergalore

    AMEN! parang taliban itong CBCP.

  • hustlergalore

    “The Catholic Church has no pork barrel to dangle,” mitos said.

    – mind you, mitos. they have their balls and robes. LOL

    • UrHONOR

      NOT all, though, have yagbadoodles.  Marami dyan, paekpaek!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Y35L4EYZGFTRCAUIUTPHXDN6HY Anak Mahirap

    …but the church do not pay taxes!

  • UrHONOR

    SANA, hindi mabasa ng mga TNL na bisyap at iba pa ang mga comments dito…..baka duguin ang mga yan at magpatiwakal.

    NAMIHASA kasi na parati silang tinitingala sa lipunan at parating kinukonsulta sa lahat ng bagay- from BIRTH to DEATH.  Sarap nga ng hanap-pera ng mga TNL na yan….mulang pagkapanganak, paglaki, pagtanda, hanggang sa kamatayan, sakop at kabig nila.  Kaya, hayan, NAAAAPAKAYAMAN ng nga TNL….kaya malalakas ang loob na magpasiklab dahil malalalim na ang kanilang mga balon.  Pero noon, mababalikan ninyo, na hindi sila GAANONG sumasalungat sa kanit kanino dahil na sa GATHERING stage pa lang sila…..ngayong naka-gather na ng limpak-limpak na moolah, kesehoda na kayong lahat…”kung anong gusto namin, siyang masusunod, intiendes, indios?”

  • zeroko

    The Bishops should not threaten Roxas because with or without them, Roxas will not win the next PResidential election. It was his debacle of accepting the position as DILG czar. He does not show any tangible thing to show the people. He he he.

  • Yobhtron

    Tax the Roman Catholic Church! Down with the Damaso’s.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ABEPTOVR322UT6ZQDDVUZ3AUHI Ricky

      Damaso. Rizal has come back to life.

  • miiron

    kakainin mo ang sinabi mo, reyes, pagmanalo c ROXAS!

  • Guest

    Dumarami lang ang kaaway ni Sec. Mar Roxas sa ginagawa niya. May
    paglalagyan ka sa bandang huli Secretary Mar.

    • nardong_tutpik

      Oo, magiging presidente si Mar kasi hindi sya duwag na kurakot tulad ni Binay at Arroyo.  Duwag sa simbahan at tinolerate ng mga obispo kahit na kurakot wag lang maipasa ang RH bill.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H4PIIBVQK4BSXMIKFRWWAAQAUY Heartrob ng Pugad Baboy

    The nerve of these Bishops.  Parang nabuhay ulit si Padre Damaso.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUDXSLGDJSVES3MAZKXXMXJXXM Ratzkey

    Napakahangin naman ng mga bishop na to parang Pablo! Me I am a Catholic but I do not listen to no bishop for my vote. I know better than them about the realities of life while they are just confined in their cubicles and know very little. Masarap yata ang buhay ng mga yan I know that for a fact because my other grandpa was a priest. Roxas will continue the good governance of PNoy and should be the successor of the Presidency! Having Korina as his First Lady, it really makes sense that we will be in the right hands.

  • GintongLahi

    The CHURCH don’t VOTE – the Filipinos do!  Filipinos believed in the CHURCH if they are on the RIGHT SIDE.  And Filipinos despise the CHURCH – if they are on the wrong side.  The CHURCH must be dreaming – it’s time to WAKE UP!

    • $20722540

      obvious naman! the church doesn’t vote.  its the other way around catholic Filipinos should follow the church, if not, then leave the church…no one is forcing you to be part of the church or no one can dictate what the church should do.  if you despise the church, then leave, easy.  people dreams but not the church which means that people should wake up, not the church.

      • zdrx

        the church is not part of the govt…but why is the church forcing the govt to be part of the church’s sphere of influence?  

        yes, no one dictates what the church should do…THEREFORE, THE CHURCH HAS NO BUSINESS DICTATING ON WHAT THE GOVT SHOULD DO.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

        If the Church is indeed “dictating”on the govt, then why did they LOST the RHB fight? What about, The Executive Branch of govt represented by Pnoy is DICTATING CONGRESS, a CO-EQUAL BRANCH? More appropriate, right? 

      • zdrx

        they lost because the govt stood their ground on an issue that the church has no business interfering, to begin with. the govt has every right to campaign for congressional approval of RH bill. politics is within the govt territory…politics is not a church spiritual playground.

        your word “they LOST the RHB fight” is proof that they indeed dipped their fingers on a hot political issue…and their finger got burned. the fact that the bishop issued a threat is proof enough that the church tried to dictate….but was rebuffed.

  • chibert jala

    As long as the Church is against to this neo-liberals, I am always in support to this kind of Church.

  • daniboy2012

    Dapat sa mga pareng katoliko….paghuhubaran ng mga palda….para malaman kong ano ang tinatago nila….Pinoys ‘wag matakot sa pinagsasabi ng mga ‘to….puro kasinungalingan!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ABEPTOVR322UT6ZQDDVUZ3AUHI Ricky

      bakit kayo nag aaway?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CBBPG4SGSURB5V5A5BBQX4HF2Y Peter

    Catholicism in this country has finally reared its ugly head. Let us not be afraid of this monster, we will slay this dragon, the root cause of all evils in this country.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/AH7MNEFRF4G4ZQ6PA2OE4Z3BEU Verlito

      Money is the root cause of all evils and not Catholicism. 

      • lennonpaul

         the love of money is the root of all evils…money can be put to good use…this priests reminds me of the friars during spanish time who wields so much power and influence to the state.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ABEPTOVR322UT6ZQDDVUZ3AUHI Ricky

        mali ang grammar. dapat may subject-verb agreement. this is just to help one another in improving our english.

      • symonwho

        Wrong use of money causes evil. So money for calamity victims in some Bishop’s investment accounts should be returned to their rightful beneficiaries.

    • http://twitter.com/romza825 Row me oh!

      That’s the teaching of non Catholic groups that the Catholic is a monster. Peter you are a victim of a liar Pastor.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ABEPTOVR322UT6ZQDDVUZ3AUHI Ricky

        You’re correct, Row me oh! I have heard this comment always from the different ministers and pastors who are envious of your Church. However, they don’t have any proof.

    • Jeremiah_CheGuevara

       satan’s ilk comments.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

       It’s even written in the Bible…Babylonian. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ABEPTOVR322UT6ZQDDVUZ3AUHI Ricky

      i think you are either iglesia or dating daan. guess ko lng ha

  • Isagani Gatmaitan

    CBCP Secretary: “We are a democratic country. The power really lies with the people in selecting leaders. In this case, it was the legislators who decided,”

    We are a democratic country… We bear the responsibility for electing the charlatans and demagogues we seated in their offices. Alas,  we have no voice in selecting the charlatans and demagogues who spit fire and brimstone from the pulpits.

  • symonwho

    A bishop threatening a person? Conduct unbecoming of a priest. So Roxas or Korina should no longer confess until 2016 to a priest or else baka ibulgar nila sa kalaban niya.

    Sana naman the CBCP should have the same diligence and purpose against the RH bill, with fighting corruption and pangugulang sa kapwa in both private and public entities at all levels. Then I can say they are really performing their missionary work.

  • mekeni62

    Mar won’t like this. Binay is all smiles.

  • nelsonkamloon

    If supporting d RH , s bad to the priest but made it, ” just 4give those who trespass (the RH supporters) against us” amen. No intimidation please.

  • Jeremiah_CheGuevara

    thumb down mr do nothing good/useless roxas’ political career FOREVER!

  • SignTheWaiverNow

    Kiss your political career goodbye, Mar!

    he he he

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ABEPTOVR322UT6ZQDDVUZ3AUHI Ricky

      good bye, mar.

  • http://twitter.com/romza825 Row me oh!

    Just answer, are you a catholic? If you are a non catholic, the bishop can’t speak for you that’s an exclusive for the catholic. sorry pare nabuko ka… he he he.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPSXDLCQEZGZDJSX32G7PYHNCI Noel

      If it’s exclusively for Catholics, why are these Bishops yacking in public, media, rallying in the streets, making noise at Congress?  They might as well limit their Bla-Bla within the church.

  • http://twitter.com/romza825 Row me oh!

    Ikaw pare di mo ba alam na kinurakot ka lang ng simbahan mo. Tanongin mo ang pastor mo kung saan napunta ang 10% ng income mo na ibinigay mo kay pastor.

    • GustoKoHappyKa

      nasa stock market na hahahaha… buti pa sila libre tax

  • http://twitter.com/romza825 Row me oh!

    Kaya nga si Pacquiao nagbasa ng Bible at naloko nyo. 

  • http://twitter.com/equalearth Against Ignorance

    the “church” has opposed the RH bill for 14 years during which time the shantytowns have increased by 30 million poverty stricken filipinos – sadly many of them still believe the “church” will alleviate their suffering but without proper education they cannot understand that ever more filipinos means ever more poverty, unemployment and at best cheap labour. The majority of poor people do not want more children but they cannot afford contraception so the RH bill makes sense except to those who profit from the poor and who abuse the poor with false gospels. 

  • barry p

    “The Church is not after political power but it has much influence. We use that influence for the growth of the country (but) Malcañang really fought the Church,” Reyes said at a Church forum in Intramuros, Manila.
    Father, how can you be such a hypocrite?  Don’t you know how to blush anymore?  Are there no more spirituality left in you?  
      
    PAGKATAPOS IPAGYABANG ang kanilang impluwensya sasabihin nila hindi raw sila after the political power…

    ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE PADRE DAMASO SIDE OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CLERGY IN THE PHILPPINES…VERY MEDIEVAL…ANIMO AY TRAPO.

    And this is precisely the reason why we always have nothing but TRAPO for political leaders.  Padre Damaso is the NO.1 cultivator of patronage politics in the country…

    And what growth are they talking about ??? 

    Ilang daang taon na ang impluwensya ni Padre Damaso sa Pilipinas subait kilala ang Pilipinas sa KAHIRAPAN, KRIMINALIDAD, KORUPSYON…

    Nabansagang ONLY CHRISTIAN NATION IN ASIA subalit binansagan din tayong ONE OF THE MOST CORRUPT NATIONS ON EARTH…

    • barry p

      How do you reconcile yung supposed to be spiritual nature ng trabaho ni Padre Damaso…

      Pero eto at puro pagbabanata ang naririnig mo mula sa Simbahang Katoliko?

      Nasaan ang pagpapakumbaba Father?  

      Nasaan ang hinahon Father?

      YOU DID NOT RAISE A FINGER WHILE SAKDAL CORRUPT ARROYO WAS SHAMELESSLY RUNNING AMOK…plundering the country, stealing whatever they can get their hands on, corrupting everything and everyone including your peers…

      NOW YOU ARE ALLIES TO THOSE WHO WILL EXPLOIT ANY ISSUE JUST TO UNDERMINE PNOYs ADMNISTRATION.

      When will you reform oh hypocrites?

      • cruel168

        Well written mr barry p, nadale mo sa ulo ang pako. sapul na sapul ang mga lintek na ipokritong damaso. Thats why R.C is falling down.

      • Hector Melvin Flores

         
         barry p,

        Tama ka, wala silang PARI at OBISPO (C.B.C.P.) imik noong panahon ni G.M.A. dahil nakikinabang nang husto biro mo humingi lang birthday gift ay S.U.V. pa at ang gusto at 4×4 parin at hindi na sila nahiya kahit ang perang pinanggalingan ay galing sa sugal na illegal at immoral (P.C.S.O.) at para sana sa pampapagamot at pambili nang gamot nang mga mahihirap at maralita natin mamamayan pero hindi nila (Obispo) inisip at pinagsisihan na ang inagawan nila nang Pera ay kawawang mamamayan masunod lamang ang kanilang kapritso at KASAKIMAN…Mahiya sana mga C.B.C.P. Member na himingi nang S.U.V.

        SANA HINDI NALANG SILANG MGA C.B.C.P. MAKIALAM SA ADMINISTRASYON NI PNOY DAHIL GUMAGANDA NAMAN ANG EKONOMIYA NANG BANSA at dahil sa pakikialam nila ay LALO LANG GUMUGULO…MANALANGIN NA LANG KAYO PARA MAKATULONG…

    • $20722540

      sino ba ang meron responsibilidad sa kahirapan, kriminalida, korupsyon, patronage politics, etc   gobierno diba?  baka gusto mo isisi mo rin yong baha sa navotas at valenzuela, trapic sa edsa, mataas na gas, mababang suweldo ng mga guro/pulis, etc. etc.  anong pakalam ng simbahan di yan??? sabi nga ni mirriam wah…wah!!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ABEPTOVR322UT6ZQDDVUZ3AUHI Ricky

      hahaha, may personal kang galit! baka ma heart attack nyan!

  • Don Dee

    PNoy ran for president with the campaign promise of supporting the RH Bill. Where was your “magic” then? Delusional talaga itong mga obispong ito if they think that they still have influence. Disiplinahin nyo muna kasi ang mga sex offender sa hanay nyo ng meron naman kayong konting moral high ground. Pagkatapos nun, disiplinahin rin ang mga obispong tumanggap ng suhol sa pekeng pangulo para meron kayong credibility.

  • dako

    si binay tahimik sa issue..play safe mode..typical fence sitting trapo….its black or white..binay chose the middle….ito namang mga pari..hypocrites to the max…..gold platted lang pagiging banal…

    • hustlergalore

      shhh. binay will strike at any opportune time. meanwhile, sabong muna tayo. LOL

  • Bullet Train

    I’ll vote for Mar Roxas. Kung sino man ang iiendorso ng mga obispo na yan tiyak trapo yan. Uto-uto sa mga kagustuhan nila. We don’t need a puppet president of the Church.

  • Rovingmoron

    Don’t worry Sec. Roxas. The Filipino voters will be behind to support you in every step of the way. Now, this will be a litmus test for the CBCP to test the murky waters of Philippines politics. If Roxas wins, this means that their call is no longer valid these days.

    • $20722540

      cbcp or no cbcp roxas has no chance anyways to be president

  • $14334231

    and you think the catholics will listen to you???……maybe some, but not all…..check the blogs here and see where the catholic church is heading to……influence???…..my foot!!!….

    • totan

      im a catholic, but i dont believe in bishops

  • dangerzone1234

    do not believe the romans, just do what u think is good for the people and country. These hypocrites are liars, they want to dominate and pressure anyone who don’t heed their calls. Their era is gradually vanishing and it’s a good indicator for the welfare of all. Just pray directly to God and not through them.

  • cruel168

    Naku, kahit suportahan ng mga obispo yan, talo yan!

  • mangTASYO

    Bishop, here is your Breakfast A La Carte: 

    Proverbs 20:22  Do not say, “I’ll pay you back for this wrong!” Wait for the LORD, and he will deliver you.

    Proverbs 24:29 Do not say, “I’ll do to him as he has done to me; I’ll pay that man back for what he did.”

    Luke 6:29 If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic.

    Matthew 5:39  But I tell you not to resist an evildoer. On the contrary, whoever slaps you on the right cheek, turn the other to him as well.

    MangTasyo 101:  Prepare your left cheek for the “Divorce”.

  • walangutak

    this bishops are the persons that God had forwarned  His flocks in the bible, “beware of the wolves that are wearing the skin of the sheep, the so called holy preacher preaching the words of God but are actually the devil in disguise”. 

  • yokolok

    so these are our church leaders now? they resort to threats? WOW!!! i like this type of bishop!!! one who does not follow the bible teachings!!! Hey Bitchop Reyes-you might be thinking of hiring someone to make sure he doesn’t win ha – di lang labag sa batas iyan pero pati sa commandments…

  • Don Dee

    Bishops will make Roxas pay in 2016? Ang tanong e, ilang SUV’s ang payment? Magsabi na presyo ng magkatawaran na.

    • Guest

       12 SUVs will do. Per bishop.

  • calixto909

    NOT ONLY ROXAS BUT ALL LEGISLATORS WHO HAD INKED THEIR SIGNATURES IN THE BILL. i FOR ONE INCLUDING MY CHILDREN WON’T VOTE FOR THEM AND INSTEAD CAMPAIGN AGAINST THEM IN PLACES WHERE WE CAN REACH

    • Don Dee

      Go ahead. That is your right. This is how democracy works. Campaign against politicians who do not represent your ideals. Walang pilitan. Walang pwersahan.

      Now excuse us while we, the majority, go ahead and legislate a divorce law.

    • antiscam

       I will vote and campaign for Roxas instead. I know i have an easier job coz as per latest Pulse Asia and SWS surveys, 80% of the Filipinos support the RH Bill. Vox Populi Vox Dei (The voice of the people is the voice of God)….God is on our side.

      For the Anti-RH supporters good luck. I know the arrogant Bishops are on your side. See what happened?-YOU LOST THE RH BILL hahaha…

      Humility rather than arrogance will serve our Bishops better. Just a friendly advice.

  • kilabot

    wrong, bishop. 
    marroxas middle name is crime. and crime does not pay.

  • dorothyanne88

    I voted for Roxas against Binay for I strongly believe that he was the lesser evil and more experience than him but what he emblazoned far and wide as his evil character and worst a sipping lackey of Aquino shut the door of his politics in me. 

    Had Roxas only read and understand the bible through the guidance of the Holy Spirit then he would had just kept mum on the issue of he RH Bill but he was forcibly swayed by the devil when surveys appear that many will vote for the proponents. What he failed to way as a consequence is the fact that he’s fighting God in his action to join the melee of clamor for the passage of the bill. Well that’s the up and down of being a nonbeliever. Until my dying day, I’ll never vote for him and so with my children and incoming grandchildrens

    • totan

      akp roxas pa rin. 

  • barry p

    Puro pagbabanta.  Hinaluan pa ng superstition at mysticism (like si Pablo daw was due to the RH bill). Nagpapahiwatig ng paghihganti (vengeance/revenge).

    Noon nagnanakawan walang imik.

    Ngayon kakampi na nila yung mga magnanakaw. 

    Playing king-maker roles …encouraging patronage politics…encouraging trapo politicians…

    Where is the humility?  Where is the decency?  Where is the spirituality?

    Oh when will you reform you influence-peddling hypocrites?! 

    You are destroying my faith you fools!

  • GustoKoHappyKa

    hay naku bishop…ganyan pala ang mga pari ngayon..nagtatanim ng galit..

  • http://twitter.com/Olibo2 Olibo

    To CBCP- IPISKUPAL : Form a partylist, and if you win the election amend the RH BIll or scrap it. That’s the way to do it, PH is a democratic country. Don’t make your vote as a threat, as Sen. Mirriam said it’s  just a myth.People are wiser nowadays. RH Bill is practical and sensible for Filipinos. Don’t think like cockroach. Better support the anti-paedophile and anti-sexual abuses to stop crimes committed by your colleagues.  

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7U2G7QNT77QUH2RVHU2DMKSVOE Hector melvin

    gabriel reyes was wrong when he said that sec.mar roxas presidential ambition will be affected because of his stand in favor for R.H. Bill…Nagustuhan nga nang mga tao ang ginawa nang mga pro R.H. Bill.. hito na naman mga pakialamirong mga taga simbahan? sana tumahimik nalang kayo dahil wala rin kayo ginawa noong panahon ni G.M.A. bagkus nagbulag bulagan at nagbingi bingihan sa mga anomalyang nangyayari noong nakaraang administrasyon dahil lang sa S.U.V. at 200,000.- pesos plus monthly alowances ay naging makasarili ang iba sa inyo at hindi gumawa nang nararapat gawin kong kayo ay para sa katutuhanan…

    HUWAG NA SANA MAKIALAM ANG SIMBAHAN LALO NA ANG TAGA C.B.C.P. SA PAMAMALAKAD NANG PAMAHALAAN DAHIL DAGDAG PROBLEMA LANG KAYO…AMEN…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7U2G7QNT77QUH2RVHU2DMKSVOE Hector melvin

    GANYAN NAMAN SILANG MGA TAGA SIMBAHAN PALAGING NANANAKOT AKALA NILA SILA LANG ANG TAMA……SINO SILA PARA MAGPASYA PARA SA ISANG TAO…REYES PARA MALAMAN MO IBOBOTO KO MGA PUMABOR NANG R.H. BILL DAHIL MALIWANAG NA MAKAKATULONG ITO SA MGA GUSTONG MAGPLANO NANG PAMILYA…BINIBIGYAN LANG NANG EDUKASYON AT BAHALA SILA KONG TANGAPIN NILA O HINDI AT WALANG PILITAN DITO… KAYO NGA LANG ANG MAPILIT REYES…

    TANDAAN SANA NINYONG MGA TAGA SIMBAHAN ANG SINABI NI JESUS??? IBIGAY KAY CAESAR ANG PARA KAY CAESAR AT IBIGAY SA DIYOS ANG PARA SA DIYOS… and also, WE SHOULD OBSERVE THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH & STATES…AMEN….

  • antiscam

     I
    will vote and campaign for Roxas instead. I know i have an easier job
    coz as per latest Pulse Asia and SWS surveys, 80% of the Filipinos
    support the RH Bill. Vox Populi Vox Dei (The voice of the people is the
    voice of God)….God is on our side.

    For the Anti-RH supporters good luck. I know the arrogant Bishops are
    on your side. See what happened?-YOU LOST THE RH BILL hahaha…

    Humility rather than arrogance will serve our Bishops better. Just a friendly advice.
     

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TP6YY66XPT63YFGHDKYTMIO4CM Daniel

    Mga bishops, walang personalan, please lang!

    Anti RH Bill ako, pero pag tumakbong pagka-presidente si Mar Roxas, siya ang aming iboboto.

    Ayaw namin sa mga “maliliit na maligno”.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6LZKWWWOJTNBOOZJVX4FLC5MA Marcela

      hahaha! funny! corrupt pa kamo ang mga maliliit na maligno.

  • LegalJustice

    Its about time that the Churches should be paying taxes since they are minggling in Politics.

    And stop donating money  to these Churches you might as well donate your money directly to rightful organization who is really helping the poor.

    I hope people are aware and know that Vatican is the riches country on the planet earth. 

    People need to watch the movie: The Shoes Of The Fisherman. Starring: Athony Quinn who portray as a Pope and check the last scene of the movie.

    These Priest, Bishops and Cardinals are misleading and confusing there flocks which is the work of the Devil. They never follow the teaching of Jesus Christ.

    • AlexanderAmproz

      Oh Anthony Quinn, thank’s to remember such a wonderful actor, one of the best.
      I will order this movie at once.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

      The Shoes of the Fisherman?  Sapatos ng Mangingisda?  Kailangan ba ng mangingisda ang sapatos?  Ano ‘yon, boots na maraming boston?  Ang tunog no’n pag nailakad sa ibabaw ng tubig!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ABEPTOVR322UT6ZQDDVUZ3AUHI Ricky

    nandito na ako. i will check your grammar…

  • jseesus

    VOTE ROXAS FOR PRESIDENT…………. VOTE BINAY FOR POPE OF ROME… para magkaroon ang mga obispo na eto nang malignong PApa…….  HAHHAR….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    PLS” TYPE MAYOR LITO ATIENZA ABORTIONIZ YOUTUBE BISHOPS KILLS INOCENT MOTHERS NAKAPANGINGILABOT SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE!! GOD PLS HELP!! THE PHILIPPINES TO THE EXTREMIST TERRORIST KATOLIBAN CHURCH!!

  • Handiong

    The bishops should stop hurling empty threats. It just makes them look ridiculous. Catholics don’t take political orders from them. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GGG5PAYS32NNN4HIJGM4UYAGE4 Victor Cruz

    khit di kau makialam di nman mananalo yan c roxas,,,

    • isidro c. valencia

      Tama. Pero siguraduhin na siya mananalo. 

    • bicolokano

      hahahahaah! nice one!

  • noypisiTED

    This mitered charlatan must be told that threatening anyone in this country is punishable under the Revised Penal Code. It’s about time this sore man in cassocks learn humility in defeat. His crabby behavior only raises suspicion from the ranks of the so-called faithful if he truly deserves to be called “man of God”.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/67MNKU7JSBV35RO7ROKB6G64JI fishy_jojo

    messages like these sound punitive. umiwas ang mga obispo sa pag-release ng mga ganiyang pahayag kasi hindi bagay sa kanila dahil parang gusto tuloy nilang maghiganti.

  • dikoy321

    Views from Christian Germany:

    VOTE for MAR ROXAS for President in 2016 !

    VOTE for the Catholic Church to PAY TAXES for their undeserving Wealth !

    Forward Philippines !!!

  • Touch_Me_, Nuts!

    In politics, a day is too long; 2016 is still a long way for the Church to be talking tough. What the CBCP hierarchy could do is to remain sober but start preparing the groundwork. Catholic NGOs need to be organized better to bring the message everywhere. The Roman Church versus Mr. Aquino and DLGCD?  It could be more complicated than you think. We’re not even talking about burning your bridges where the horizon gets foggier. To both camps, let’s buckle down to work for now and see what happens later.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO” TUMAHIMIK KAYO!! KATOLIBAN EXTREMIST TERRORIST”

    • IanAlera

      Replying to Edgardo Mendoza

      BOBO

      • Guest

          Replying to Idiot Cholera

        IDIOT

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Abdul-Rashid/100004367910013 Abdul Rashid

    Mag pakatotoo kayo! Hindi naman kayo true church. You Catholic Church is the woman referred to in Revelation 17. You are going to burn in hell. You will have your time. Unless you repent your sin, you shall all perish. While there is time, turn from your wicked ways and turn to the only true God. Not the pope in your Vatican.

  • http://www.facebook.com/julian.lennon.31 Julian Lennon

    The Roman Catholic Church is very afraid of their waning influence on Philippines being the last bastion of roman catholicism. They may think of it as their moral and spiritual obligation but its business as usual.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y6NDRGGX6M5R2GSJMKBBOAKOFU Noel

    gulat na naman tong mga baboy na to

  • boybakal

    Bishop warns Roxas Church will “MAKE HIM PAY IN 2016″

    Roxas owes the Church a lot….He will pay. There is payback time in 2016.
    Roxas has been attending mass since asking for guidance, help on his presidential quest.
    But every time he fails to donate during collection…

    By 2016, Roxas should pay the principal plus interest of his donation.

     

  • AlexanderAmproz

    The Bishop’s doing a good job to be more and more despised to open goers eyes over endless abuses and arrogances.

    Filipino spring is coming.

    They  will pay for all the forgotten bill, finally the country will push forward,
    the end of 450 years deadly sickness is going to be replaced by a hopeful fresh wind.

    ————————-  BASTA YA  ———   VIVA LA LIBERTA  ——————————————–

    PS: Its time to open the can of worms, Ate Glue will have gambling mate’s and prayers for free

  • Jerry_SeinfeId

    Wow! Ang CBCP meron pang-BLACKMAIL.
    Catholics are becoming lesser because of the church being too involved in politics.
    Yan ba ang turo ng Diyos sa mga Priets and Bishops? wtf!

    • ngidigop

      I think these preists and bishops are trying to rewrite the Bible.

      • ODAPAIN

        They dont seem to preach or read it anymore,they talk of moral issues when they have to guts to recieve SUV’s.they should use a bulk of donations to help ravaged mindanao

    • Hector Melvin Flores

      Nakakahiya at Nakakadiri na itong panghihimasok/pakikialam nang mga PARI at Obispo naongkat tuloy ang asal DAMASO noon na pumatay kay RIZAL… hindi na iginalang nang mga DAMASO ang mga ibinoto at inihalal nang Tao akala nila matatakot at madala ang Tao sa pananakot nila….Ayon sa bibliya ay bawal magtanim nang galit at makialam sa hindi mo dapat pakialaman. Ano masasabi ninyo DAMASO sa mga Panghihingi nang mga kasamahan Obispo nang S.U.V. at hindi na nahiya at nagpakapal mukha makuha lamang ang S.U.V. kapritso pero ang masakit ay para sana sa pagpapagamot at pambili nang gamot nang mga maralita at mahirap nating mamamayan pero hindi inalintala nang mga Obispong ganid dahil sa kanilang kapritso at KASAKIMAN…Ito ang maliwanag na BAWAL saka bakit wala kayong ginawa noong panahon ni G.M.A. gayong kaliwa’t kanan ang anomalyang kinasangkutan nito, naging bulat at bingi kayong C.B.C.P. dahil sa napakalaking pakinabang tulad nang S.U.V. at cash allowances na ibinigay sa inyo buwan buwan.. KASAKIMAN ang umiral sa inyo noon…TAPOS ngayon makikialam kayo para sa kabutihan nang mga mamamayanan KASAKIMAN pa rin ang tawag diyan mga DAMASO…

  • $27317632

    “The church has no pork barrel and no government projects”…Asis said. Tama si pader ang  simbahan ay walang pork barrel pero may abuloy di ba pareho lang iyon pader? Ang pork barrel ay hindi variable di tulad ng abuloy. Mayroon din kayong projects pader mas malaki sa government projects dahil ang simbahan ay maraming fiesta na pinagdiriwang sa isang taon di ba may abuloy din yon? WOW ang  pader nanakot pa… election, eh hindi nga sumusunod sa inyo ang mga catholics….gising paders.

  • roy roy

    The humble flock vs the arrogant bishops and priests. EPIC RAP BATTLE.. este.. we’ll see who will pay.

  • new_philippines

    Nung panahon ng diktaturang Marcos parang mga makahiya ang mga  obispong ito, tiklop agad kapag nakita ang mga naka uniporme ng militar at PC. Ngayon kala mo pag-aari nila ang Pilipinas dahil sa isip nila sila ang nag-patalsik kay Marcos at hinayaan ng nanay ni Noynoy na maghari-harian ang mga ito dahil sa utang ng loob niya kay Sin.

    Ang gusto ng mga obispong ito ay maging sunod sunuran sa kanila ang sambayang Pilipino tulad ng panahon ng mga prayle. Ngunit nag-iisip na ang mga nakakarami sa mga kahanay nila at ang mabuting kapakanan ng bayan ang kanilang hangarin nila tulad ni Rizal.  

    • ngidigop

      Tapos na ang panahon ni Padre Damaso.  Dapat na tayong makawala sa kanila.

    • pilato47

      You are right, to me they are leaning towards the Muslim pattern where Islam  is paramount over the government. He is an out of touch bishop who played too much politics than preaching the good news to the faithful.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DAMASO!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CBBPG4SGSURB5V5A5BBQX4HF2Y Peter

    This Catholic bishop is physically, mentally and spiritually SICK, a disgrace to Catholic religion, what a shame.

  • kipbuts

     Magtatanim din pala ng galit ang alagad ng Dios taliwas sa huling bilin ng Messiah na love your neighbor… . Maalaala ko tuloy ang mga mapanirang papal bulls nina Papa Nicholas V et al.

  • koolkid_inthehouse

    The padres not following The Ten Commandments.

  • jpmd88

    Bring it on.. let’s see if you still have the numbers in 2016.  I do not believe there is still a real Catholic vote ever since the time of the late great Cardinal Sin.  Now, people are more informed,more independent and no person in a frock can simply dictate to us now who we should vote for.
    Those that still blindly follow what prelates dictate are like lambs going in for the slaughter.

  • Bisdak_kaayo

    Lagot kayong mga pari, marami ng katolikong titiwalag sa ROMAN CATHOLICISM dahil sa asal niyong iyan.  Lagot ang mga pari, kung magsilayas ang mga nagsisimba, bagsak ang tithes and offerings sa simbahan.

  • ODAPAIN

    This is sick,to have our priest interfere with polical matters.,spend more time and effort in Mindanao instead we have more countrymen who need help to rebuild lives.It is deplorable to see them more focused on politics

  • pilato47

    I am a catholic, but I don’t like the behavior of this bishop who tried to interfere the fundamental affairs of the state. He should shy away from politics, if he knows what separation of the state and the church is all about. The church should be the first one to uphold the right of choice by our women when and how to produce offspring. Freedom should not only be present in the state but also the church the most. 

    • alienpatriot

       The CBCP sees Pinoy politics as something that it should control. It does not respect the right of Pinoys to govern their own country. It told the people of this country that the CBCP’s own interests superseded those of the people when the RH bill was being debated. It will not stop now unless ordinary Catholics rise up and tell the CBCP that the Bishops Conference speaks only for the Church heirarchy, not the ordinary Catholic.
      Rizal himself saw this 100 years ago. These days the Church is more careful to portray an image of listening and caring but the heirarchy is really the same. The local priests are changed but the CBCP is a political organisation, with Christian principles being of secondary importance.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/P4PIU2AIGVXJNQ4UBH5X64MSFE mr

    Time to tax the Katoklikos for their millions,ni hindi man lang sila tumulong sa mga nasalanta ni Pablo.

  • alienpatriot

    Is it blackmail or revenge? Either way, the CBCP is, once again, acting in an unChristian way. The Church did not get what it wanted. Its greed lost out to the welfare of the Filipino people and now we see the result. The CBCP will never admit it was wrong. It will just take action to interfere in the political process to the detriment of the people that it claims to support.
    There are few organisations as corrupt and self-centered as the CBCP today. It is a sad fact that an organisation claiming to care for the poor and justice is, in fact, the worst enemy of both.
    I hope the Filipino people stand up to the CBCP and proclaim again their willingness ignore the threats of the CBCP. They have done it once in supporting the RH bill. They will be required to do it again as the CBCP will fight independent Pinoys again and again.

    • IanAlera

      Replying to alienpatriot

      Oh, just stop your nonsensical anti-Catholic rants!!

      • Guest

         Replying to Idiot Cholera

        IDIOT

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TL345EF36IDOZEIL5YGMDXF4JA Midge

    Simula ngaun, magsisimba ako pro magdadasal lang ng mataimtim at hindi na ako makikinig sa mga sermon ng pari. Kong dati nag aabuloy ako ng 50 pesos pwes ngaun hindi na kundi ibibili ko na lang ng tinapay at deretso ko na ibibigay sa mga bata sa lansangan, maliit na bagay pro alam ko nkakaginhawa rin yon nga sikmura!! NAWAWALA RESPETO KO SA MGA DAMASO NA TO!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VJJCQJW3WYFG5STFXINFSZBRRQ Alfred

    Bakit naman ganitong manakot ang mga pari na ito? Di ba ang mga alagad ng simbahan ay dapat banal? Bakit sila nakikialam sa mga batas na dapat ipairal sa Pilipinas? Kung ang alagad ng simbahan ay nanakot sa opisyales ng gobyerno sa sa pagsuporta sa RH Bill, di huwag n din tayong dumalo sa misa baka maging karaniwang tao ay takutin din nila. Pasok na lang tayo ng simbahan kapag walang misa. 

  • jun2012

    sa mga pari na nadismaya sa pag kapasa ng RH Bill sa kamara at senado, lagi po kayong mag-rosaryo ki San Pedro Calaungsod para magkaron po kayo ng katahimikan sa inyong kaisipan at kalooban. masama po iyan, na para bagang nananakot kayo sa mga politiko na mi ambisyon sa 2016.

  • kilawon(the return)

    next bill ban Catholicism  in philippines and banish all bishops to VATICAN ,they are nothing but nuisance in this country!

  • CyberPinoy

    CBCP now is too currupt in the mind, if they will not get what they want then they will threat the person who defied them…  so lame!

    This CBCP attitude makes me think  twice into believing their moral teaching, they are just a bunch of bull…  ipagdasal nalang natin sila sana lumayo na ang demonyo sa isip nila at maliwanagan at marealize nila na wala na tayo sa panahon ng kastila.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NV25ZPWMBDYFXEYR3AWQ43ZS5E Hein S

    When the RH Bill was approved in ITALY, the pope was QUIET.

    Why are the lowly bishops so NOISY?

    • PasswordFlame

      because they are filipinos..jst kidng

  • Yobhtron

    Ayaw ko sana kay Mar pero sa ginagawang pananakot ng CBCP (Corporasyon ng mga Baklitang Cupal at Pedophile) ay iboboto ko siya at ikampanya ko pa siya para mapahiya ang mga Damasong Mitsubishops.  

  • mnlmad

    BISHOPS, stop meddling in state affairs! Nakaka pikon na kayo!

    • IanAlera

      Replying to mnlmad

      to each his own.. mga pilipino din naman sila

      • Guest

        Replying to Idiot Cholera

        IDIOT

  • WAJ

    Catholic church is threatening Vice President Roxas Presidential ambition in 2016? Why can’t they just keep their mouth shut and stay away from politics…after all catholic religion is not the government.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/H5OZ4KYV6U7TTLUN3A3RU2DXYQ juan masikap

    The bishops violates the the separation of church and states as stated in  Article II section 6 of the Constitution.

  • UrHONOR

    MERRY CHRISTMAS to all!

  • BLITZKRIEG166

    one of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated ……Thomas More

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UWZJ2XDJOMJQHG33IDRML6XUSQ vince

    YOU ARE HYPOCRITES! MGA PULITIKO DIN NAMAN KAYO!

  • Hector Melvin Flores

    PAKIALAMIRONG REYES, SINO KA PARA MAGSALITA NANG GANYAN KAY SEC. MAR ROXAS? ANONG AKALA MO SA TAONGBAYAN MADALING MANIWALA SA KASINUNGALINGAN NINYO? SANA TUMAHIMIK NALANG KAYONG MGA C.B.C.P. PARA HINDI MAKITA MGA PAKIKIALAM NINYO? DAHIL NAKAKAHIYA KAYO? NAPAKALIWANAG NANG “SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE….

  • Hector Melvin Flores

    Vindictive na rin ang tawag diyan at ginatungan pa ni reyes na ang  akala ay may kahihinatnan ang ginagawa nilang ito against sec.mar roxas. Ang tanong kolang sa C.B.C.P. ay nasaan kayo noong panahon ni G.M.A.? Wala kayong ginawa dahil natakpan nang S.U.V. ang mata kasama ang tainga ninyo? Wala kayong ginawa lalo na nang may dagdag na 200,00 pesos na monthly allowances mula sa P.C.S.O. at ang kawawa ay ang mahihirap na mamamayan dahil para sana sa kanila ang P.C.S.O. fund na ginamit sa pagbili nang S.U.V. na birthday gift daw? KASAKIMAN ang tawag diyan…

    Dapat kasi kayong taga C.B.C.P. ay “HINDI nalang NALANG” sa PAMAMAHALA ni Pnoy dahil gumaganda naman ang economiya at GUMUGULO lang dahil sa pakikialam ninyong may SELFISH INTEREST…Amen…  

    REMINDER LANG PO…SEPARATION OF CHURCH & STATE SHOULD BE OBSERVED & RESPECTED…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WZVSJZV2S2MG7PXFUBW5H4CMQE floydb

    Most of these bishops are HYPOCRITE! Just because you are a bishop, you think that whatever you do IS correct. Shame on you ! You probably think that you are so HOLY, you should really be ashamed of yourself. Just because somebody is not in agreement with whatever you stand for, for whatever you want, that somebody is evil. YOU ARE THE EVIL ONE. SHAME ON YOU, SHAME ON YOU, SHAME ON YOU !!!!

    • IanAlera

      Replying to floydb

      hoy floyd , tigil mo na yang pinagsasa- sabi nonsense lang iyan.

      • Guest

         Replying to Idiot Cholera

        IDIOT

  • josefe38

    SA MGA UMALIPUSTA AT NANGLALAIT SA CBCP NAGMUKHA TULOY KAYONG KATAWA-TAWA. KUNG TOTOO NA WALA NA SILANG INFLUENCE BAKIT GANUN NALANG ANG INYONG REACTION. RELAX LANG KAYO DAPAT, SABI NYO WALA NG MAKIKINIG SA KANILA NGUNIT BASE SA REACTION NYO MUKHANG NAGLULUPASAY KAYO SA TAKOT AT NGINIG NA NGINIG. RELAX LANG BABY, RELAX!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/7U2G7QNT77QUH2RVHU2DMKSVOE Hector melvin

       Josefe,paano kasi hindi na magandang asal pinapakita ni reyes?pananakot na yan at hindi bagay sa isang alagad daw nang simbahan…parang mga BOBO na hindi alam ang separation of CHURCH & STATE…napakaliwanag naman kahit sa BIBLE ay mayroong paliwanag, IBIGAY KAY CAESAR ANG KAY CAESAR AT IBIGAY SA DIYOS ANG SA DIYOS….hindi na kasi nila (C.B.C.P.) sinusunod kahit na ang utos nang DIYOS…..

  • Practicalandconcerned

    Maging evil tuloy ang intentions nila

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

    dapat sa mga HUNGHANG na mga OBISPO na yan maipamukha sa kanila na wala na silang kredibilidad para manakot dahil mismong mga katoliko ang sumuporta sa RH BILL. kahit maghabol kayo sa tambol mayor mga tao pa rin ang may kagustuhan na maisabatas ang RH BILL. mamatay kayo sa inggit mga DAMASO!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LY2B6FRILBKCZQJIOXQ7QG4CKU Joe

    by the way. ROXAS in 2016!!!!! ;)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7U2G7QNT77QUH2RVHU2DMKSVOE Hector melvin

    @ Midge,  

    Tama ka Midge, Nakakahiya na ang ginagawang ito nang simbahan kay mar roxas at kumampi pa sila sa mga mandarambong na pulitiko, Tama ka sa gagawin mong hindi pagbigay nang abuloy dahil napakayaman naman nilang taga C.B.C.P. kaso madamot at SAKIM din sa PERA at KAPANGYARIHAN at kahit ang PERA nang P.C.S.O. na para sa MAHIHIRAP na MAMAMAYAN ay PINAKIALAMAN pa para masunod ang KAPRITSO at KASAKIMAN….

    THEY SHOULD RESPECT THE “SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATES” under article ll section 6 of the constitution…kasi lalo lang gumugulo dahil sa pakikialam nilang taga C.B.C.P….



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