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Divorce bill next–Belmonte

PH only country in the world where divorce is still banned

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DIVORCE NEXT Speaker Belmonte: I’m in favor of the divorce bill. ARNOLD ALMACEN

While Roman Catholic bishops and prolife groups were still recovering from their crushing defeat on the reproductive health (RH) bill, Speaker Feliciano Belmonte dropped yet another bombshell—he wants a divorce law in predominantly Catholic Philippines.

“Me, I’m in favor of the divorce bill,” Belmonte said Tuesday when asked during a pre-Christmas lunch with reporters.

But he admitted that passing a divorce bill would have to wait because congressmen would be busy campaigning for next year’s midterm elections.

Asked if a divorce law would be passed in the next Congress, Belmonte—who described himself as a Christian—said he didn’t know what the composition of the House of Representatives would be then, “but I think so.”

After Malta legalized divorced last year, the Philippines has become the only country in the world—apart from the Vatican—without a divorce law.

Representatives Luzviminda Ilagan and Emerenciana de Jesus of the militant group Gabriela have a pending bill seeking to amend the Family Code to include a divorce provision.

Belmonte said the measure remained at the committee level and was unlikely to be passed soon.

“Not this time, but it’s there at the back of our minds,” he said. “I just want the idea to be there … I want that to remain in the consciousness of congressmen so at some point, we can take it up again.”

 

Failed, unhappy marriages

In their explanatory note to House Bill No. 1799, Ilagan and De Jesus said their divorce proposal was in line with “the policy of the State to protect and strengthen marriage and the family as basic social institutions.”

“Reality tells us that there are many failed, unhappy marriages across all Filipino classes,” they said. “Many couples, especially from the marginalized sectors who have no access to the courts, simply end up separating without the benefit of legal processes.”

The two lawmakers said “cultural prescriptions and religious norms keep many couples together despite the breakdown of their marriages.”

 

Bigger fight

“While absolute fidelity is demanded of wives, men are granted sexual license to have affairs outside marriage. Yet when the marriage fails, the woman is blamed for its failure,” they added.

But Cagayan de Oro Rep. Rufus Rodriguez—an opponent of the RH bill—rejected the divorce proposal, warning it would further erode family values.

“If we opposed the RH bill, the more that we will oppose a divorce bill,” Rodriguez told the Inquirer. “This will definitely destroy families and the future of their children.”

Rodriguez did not appear surprised that discussions on a divorce law were now happening, especially after Congress passed the RH bill despite strong opposition from the Catholic Church.

He earlier warned that an RH law would open a “pandora’s box” of related demands, such as legislation on abortion, divorce and same-sex marriage.

“That’s the progression,” he said. “All they need is a crack to open and change our values system.”

 

A covenant, a ‘mystery’

The Church considers marriage a “covenant” and has long opposed divorce, allowing annulment but under strict conditions.

“Marriage is not a purely human institution despite the many variations it may have undergone through the centuries in different cultures, social structures and spiritual attitudes,” according to the Catechism of the Church.

“The Scripture speaks throughout of marriage and its ‘mystery,’ its institution and the meaning God has given it, its origin and its end, its various realizations throughout the history of salvation, the difficulties arising from sin and its renewal ‘in the Lord’ in the New Covenant of Christ and the Church.”

Belmonte justified his preference for a divorce law, saying: “If your lives are no longer tolerable, why (not divorce)?”

Now that Congress has passed the RH bill, he said he would reach out to Catholic bishops.

“I would, definitely I would,” he said. “I don’t see any lasting acrimony between us.”

Grounds for divorce

HB 1799 cites five grounds for divorce, among them “irreconcilable differences that have caused the irreparable breakdown of the marriage.”

Divorce can also be sought if the “petitioner has been separated de facto from his or her spouse for at least five years at the time of the filing of the petition and reconciliation is highly improbable.” Legal separation from a spouse “for at least two years” is also a ground, according to the bill.

“When one or both spouses are psychologically incapacitated to comply with the essential marital obligations,” he or she could also file for divorce. Any of the existing grounds for legal separation that has caused “irreparable breakdown of marriage” could also be a ground.


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  • Padre Agaton

    hahahahaha! tulad ng inaasahan. di na kailangan si manang bola para hulaan kung ano pa ang isusunod ng mga pro-rh para lahat ng bagay “satisfying”.

    • Nathanael Espino

      E pinagiwanan ba naman ng panahon… We need to keep up and not stay hidebound to a dead and dumb faith. 

  • efriend

    Death Penalty next please!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQPOCGSITYMSD2UTYIN4TJP56U Rene

      yes na yes…

  • Josemakabayan

    I may have favored RH bill but its a big NO NO for the divorce bill and I think many would agree with me on this !!!!

    • dodong1

      MAG ISA KA DITO…

    • dodong1

      sa dinadami ng mga hiwalay na mag asawa dahil sa iba’t ibang rason..kawawa rin yung ibang mga asawa dahil wala silang natatanggap na benefits gaya ng child support kung walang divorce..BAKIT STAY MARRIED KUNG IRRECONCILABLE NA ANG RELATION NINYO DI MABUTI NA LANG MAG DIVORCE NA PARA MERON PANG CHANCE NA MAG ASAWA ULI NG DAPAT NA NARARAPAT SA BAWAT ISA….ISULONG ANG DIVORCE BILL NOW NA!!

    • John_Galt_II

      Yes there are many bishops and stupid congressman like rodriguez!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MDOEHEMLNVSTET7ZCS2MKQ7WRI Flavio

    yup, same sex marriage bill after that .then,  allow filipinos to marry their carabaos …

    naku , lalong magpuputok ang butse ng mga bishops nyan. nya ha ha

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NLO2AAP3EKVA2H3FI2AM2KTGAA Jay

    About Time.No divorce in the Philipppines pero mayroon annulment of marriage.ilan pinoy na ang hindi nagsasama ng asawa pero iba na ang kinakasama.mas hinding maganda tignan pag ganoon.

  • filipinaskoh

    I am not afraid of divorce law in our country, what I am afraid is the irresponsibility of the husband. Usually the husband doesn’t fulfill his obligation, even when asked by the court. In the end it is the wife who will be miserable again. Men are somewhat polygamous in nature, already married and still flings with other- not like women, too few women who committed adultery.

    I am afraid it would be the wife who would suffer in the end, especially the salary in our country are not even enough to support the whole family, so much more if they have two families. Hindi katulad pag walang divorce- ang maghirap ung mistress- ginusto nya eh- libre sabunot at sampal pa sya.  

    • panhase

       I do understand what you are saying, but believe me not every man is like you are describing.
      I do live in Europe for long time now. Over here in case divorce a judge will decide how the income is split between the former spouse. And if the husband is not paying the money can be deducted from his salary. it´s his problem, not that of the former wife. Ifg he cannot fulfill his obligation he has to think of spending some time in jail.

  • filipinaskoh

    response to J makabayan
    I agree with you on that. I am a staunch supporter of RH bill because I see the need of it in our country. 
    Divorce- Those who can afford they can go for annulment, those who are poor they never get married anyway. It is the middle class who wll be greatly affected.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

    mangyari nyan, baka wala pa ung kasal, ngbabalak na kaagad ng divorce…hehe

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_65YVCO7CYSN3KFOZNSOGUGYMVA jdg

    ano kaya after this law gawing mandatory ang live in  bago magpakasal, parang trial and error huh.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MDAWMT3LIDHOCW7ZTSYXZEUQQ4 ghe

    Yung iba nakikasama lang dahil sa kasal. Kahit battered na yung wife napipilitang makisama  dahil kasal. Mas affected ang bata pag laging nagaaway ang mag-asawa. It’s better to end it.

  • filipinaskoh

    What I am afraid of divorce are the Children- they are the one who will be greatly affected especially if they are 12 years old and below. They are usually devastated once their parents get divorce.

    But if passed as a law I will not be liked that of ANTI RH bill- who cannot accept defeat.
    Maybe there will still who will benefit from divorce.

    • panhase

      But the children do suffer when the parents are fighting everyday. You should visit families where there is only hatred among them. That is not a nice experience.

    • Jane Tan

      1) What panhase said

      2) Its that or separation, where a child has to grow-up without the other parent, or atleast with limited exposure.

      3) If a woman is repeatedly abused by her husband, she has to stay with him because she can’t afford an annulment?

  • Tnosce

    ” Apocalypto ” – Dec. 21, 2012 

  • muddygoose

    Kung pede lang sana ikasal mga pari, baka sila pa pasimuno nito, lalu na same sex marriage. =)

  • txtman

    >>>>>>>> OH NAGULAT PA KAYO? <<<<<<<<

    NEXT:

    1. DIVORCE
    2. GAY MARRIAGE
    3. EUTHANASIA
    4. LEGAL USE OF DRUGS LIKE MARIJUANA
    5. ABORTION
    6. FREE SEX FOR ALL

    ITO YUNG DRAMA DYAN ULIT

    MAGLALABAS SILA NG BINUGBOG NA BABAE

    TAPOS SAME ISSUE

    PARA SA MGA MAHIHIRAP DAW ULIT

    TAPOS MAGLALABAS SILA ULIT NG SURVEY KONO

    TAPOS DARATING MGA FOREIGNERS ULIT

    TAPOS MGA FRIENDS A MEDIA

    ALL THE WAY ANG SIRAAN ULIT

    .
    .

    IT IS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES

    THANKS TO PENOY

    PITIFUL

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      I support #1-4, have a (very) complicated opinion on #5, and have no idea exactly what you’re referring to with #6.

      So numbers 5 and 6 aside, here’s hoping.

      • txtman

        HAVE FUN

        PITIFUL

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        I will, thanks.

    • Jane Tan

      I’m against 3-6

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      GRABE NAMAN ITO PARA SI BISHOP OSCAR CRUZ PAG LALABASAN KA IPUTOK MO DAW SA LOOB WAG DAW TATAKPAN NG GOMA KASALANAN DAW SA DIYOS” BISHOPS IKAW BAYAN KASI MAY DAG DAG!! NA!! SATANAS TALAGA SI BISHOPS!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQPOCGSITYMSD2UTYIN4TJP56U Rene

      MABUHAY KA P-Noy!!!

    • imongredneck

      Txtman,
      You are enumerating the ways of the western industrialized countries. We might just as well demand for their four seasons, esp. winter. Naku, mag snow na sa Ph.

      • Yehehhh

        Yes, magsnow na sa PH after December 21….. lol..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SAGKZON3CUMS2QVBSXOIK3KM64 J Mapagmahal

      Eh, ganyan sa Amerika ah. Kaya siguro ang migration ng mga tao eh patungo sa Amerika at hindi sa Pilipinas hehehe

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

    Yes please.

    The arguments in favor are numerous.  The State should not be forcing people to live unhappy lives, which is the case in many marriages.

    The Church doesn’t need to agree with this: They can continue to not accept divorces.  However, people should be able to get divorces from civil unions, and to remarry (in the eyes of the State) if they so choose).  The Church would have the freedom to not recognize said marriages if they so wished.

    • panhase

       When the Pope visited his native Germany he was greeted by a divorced president who did marry again. This is public knowledge and the Pope being a german knows it of course. During a mass celebrated by the Pope, the Pope himself gave communion to the divorced president of the republic.
      And the church has it´s own divorce, they just call it annulment. But in effect it´s the same. The only difference to a state divorce law is that it´s only available for the rich and famous.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        That’s the thing, a properly implemented divorce law would really do nothing but grant the options available to the rich (annulment, currently) to every Filipino.

        But watch people call this an anti-poor bill anyway.

      • Jane Tan

        You speak the truth, sir. Its to appease the Church and to allow the famous congressmen to continue with their promiscuous ways.

        First thing that came to mind though, how would Chiz Escudero vote? ;p~~

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQPOCGSITYMSD2UTYIN4TJP56U Rene

        you are right my friend, and the only reason to grant annulment is pschological incapacity, which in order to prove, you have to pay a high price (bribe the edjudge?). Who believes that either kris or james is psychologically incapacitated? or chiz or his wife? Yes to divorce!!!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SAGKZON3CUMS2QVBSXOIK3KM64 J Mapagmahal

        TUMPAK panhase.
        TRUTH is annulment is only for those who can AFFORD or the Catholic bishops would like to call “special cases”. lol cases ng pera pala, abuloy nyahahaha.
        Annulment for the masa, no matter how much abuse they’d gone through is almost NON-EXISTENT sa Pilipinas.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

      Matthew 5:32King James Version (KJV)
      32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.Matthew 19:7
      King James Version (KJV)7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?Matthew 19:8
      King James Version (KJV)8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Like I said, the Church can continue to treat it how it wants to, but the government should not be limiting it’s citizens rights because of the Bible.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        even disobeying the law of God?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        God provides a law for a mankind. nangyari kasi sobra tau sa freedom..we should also learn to limit ourselves..be responsible lng…why getting married and not responsible?.very irresponsible lng kc tau…may asawa na pero buhay binata at dalaga pa rin at walang ka contentment sa buhay, un un…

      • Jane Tan

        Well, you’re right. But, how exactly are you going to keep young kids from getting married, and wanting separation even before they get through their first year?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        subaybayan mo anak mo..at turuan ng tamang ugali..education and most of all God fearing..but ikaw gus2 mo hiwalayan asawa mo?or hiwalayan ng asawa nya ung anak mo?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SAGKZON3CUMS2QVBSXOIK3KM64 J Mapagmahal

        Ace Grave, may kakilala ka bang abandoned wife?
        It’ll be hard for our poor Filipina sisters to “SUBAYBAY” their kids if they have NO money to support them.
        DIVORCE is not for happy marriages and the reality is maraming UNHAPPY marriages.
        Respect the rights of the abandoned FILIPINAS.

        If you are in a happy marriage WHY oh WHY worry about legalizing DIVORCE?
        Are you worried that your wife will divorce you? Then dude, work hard to provide for her and treat her right.
        Recognize fool!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        i think its not all about money..read my post above…it not my commandment after all..

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        yan ung sinasabi miss jane na hindi matatama ng isang mali ang isa pang mali…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        The separation of Church and State enshrined in the Constitution means that people who don’t believe in that specific interpretation of the Bible shouldn’t have their rights limited by it.

        As for irresponsibility of people, no divorce means people essentially have their lives ruined by mistakes they make when they are young and stupid.  Having no divorce is simply irresponsible, IMO.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        so simply, u dont believe in the bible?..

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        I do, but I’m not arrogant enough to think that MY beliefs mean that everyone else should be stripped of rights and options.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        kung gayon hindi buo ung pananalig mo?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Your opinion, not mine.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        u know that, deep inside..

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        I know that you’re an idiot.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        the word speaks for yourself.. =)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        ung logic jan pareng jose, mamuhay tau ng naayun sa matuwid..d ung e insist natin na itama ung mali sa pamamagitan ng pagpasa ng Law…kung ang law ng tao ung susundin natin at hindi ung kay God, then yan ung stupid na cnasabi mo…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        No.

        Yung logic ‘jan’ ay na may karapatan ang lahat ng tao na pumili kung paano nila gusto mabuhay.  Walang karapatan ang simbahan na tanggalin ang mga desisyon na iyon sa mga tao, lalo na kung di sila Katoliko.

        Nasa batas ng Pilipinas na ang law ng TAO ang susundin.  YON ang ibig sabihin ng Separation of Church and State na halatang di mo naiintindihan.  Kung ang simbahan ang kailangan sundan, sa tingin mo, ano ang iisipin ng mga Muslim, INC members, etc?  Hindi theocracy ang Pilipinas, salamat sa Diyos.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        may separation nga ung state at ang church pero reponsibilidad pa rin ng kanyang church na gabayan ung mga kawan nya..ikaw cguro, npabayaan ka kaya ganyan nlng reaction mo..peace…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Yeah, after insulting me you say peace: that magically makes it go away.

        You’re don’t understand what the separation of church and state actually entails, and it’s idiots like you, with all of your intolerance, that are responsible for so much of the sadness on this planet.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        hehe..bakit anong ba ang nagko compose sa state, hindi tao?..at karapatan ng church na pangalagaan ung tao..

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Nope, di yon ‘karapatan’ ng simbahan.  Nasaan sa batas yon?

        Kunwari Muslim ako, o INC.  Kung sabihin kong di nagsasalita ang RCC para sa akin, at na dapat walang kinalaman sa buhay ko ang mga paniniwala ng ibang relihiyon, ano naman ang masasabi mo?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        i will not speak against any religion here..ibang usapin un..kunwari nlng di ka naniniwala ky God at wla syang kinalaman sa buhay mo, cguro, have mercy nalng..God is merciful. pero dapat mag effort din tau na susundin Sya..have a nice nyt..ma2log pa ko…salamat kaibigan..and im sorry if na insult ka (from above, unintentional)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        No, you don’t have to speak against ANY religion to answer my question.  You simply have the acknowledge the fact that one religious institution should not be able to remove rights from people who do not believe in it.

      • simondj

        ang separation po ay ginawa ng mga bumalangkas ng US constitution dahil nadanasan nila ang pagmamalupit ng dalawa kung nagsanib pwersa. okay?

      • simondj

        sa pondo lang po,,, ibig sabihin the state will not recognize, or will not make a law to recognize any church.  ibig sabihin walang pera ng goberno na pwedeng ibigay sa church,,,

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Wrong.  It’s far more wide reaching than that.

        Just look at the US, whose constitution ours was based on.  The separation has been used as the basis for successful judgements to keep things like crosses and ten commandment posters out of public schools.

    • agoroy12

      Christ never promised happiness to this world but the life after. The most important thing is obey God’s commandments. WE should learn to follow Christ and TRUST in HIM.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        The separation of Church and State enshrined in the Constitution means that people who don’t believe in that specific interpretation of the Bible shouldn’t have their rights limited by it.

  • rodben

    Next is divorce law and maybe the next priority of this Administration is legalized the same sex marriage , never mind the benefits of the workers and the abolish of contractualization law, the reductions of the electric rate and the control of the high price of the food stuffed because these are pro-poor, bumawi nalang mga mahihirqap ngayong elections…

    • Jane Tan

      The government can impose a price-ceiling whenever it needs to. Don’t need a law for it.

      • dotCommer64

         But price ceiling is against capitalist principles, its socialistic. Government must  take measures to bring down the price.

  • Albert Einstien

    adding insult to INJURED RELIGIOUS FEELINGS….lol…

    ……pag itinuloy yan DIVORCE …maraming makukulong na POLITIKO…..mag-state witness mga number 1 nila ………sa pandarambong schemes nila…..lol

    • Jane Tan

      ? huh? no sense

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SAGKZON3CUMS2QVBSXOIK3KM64 J Mapagmahal

      I don’t think so. WIFE # 1 can take HALF, yes 50% of the POLITIKOs asset pag legally divorce.
      POLOTIKOs might say no to divorce but the wife #1 will say yes, shoot.
      Half of  the asset then I get to date a new younger guy. lol

  • pepengkabayo

    Divorce bill next–Belmonte….Winning streak tong si Belmonte ah…Mukhang makaka Grand Slam.

  • EOJ

    The philippines is the only country without divorce? What happened to all the other catholic countries?????

    It actually makes sense when kids see their parents quarrel everyday especially violent fights. They see their mother like a punching bag. The kids also grow up as violent persons. the boys particularly become violent husbands later. This kind of relationship should be stopped as it brings more harm than good to the kids. They become rapists, killers, abusers of women and children. With a divorce law, the rights and welfare of all parties, especially kids will be protected.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

      Matthew 5:32King James Version (KJV)
      32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.Matthew 19:7
      King James Version (KJV)7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?Matthew 19:8
      King James Version (KJV)8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

  • rodben

    Nagsisis na tiyak ang simbahan ngayon sa malaking participation nila sa EDSA dahil nililibak na at binabastos pa sila ngayon ng mga natulungan nilang mga CROCODILE….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PZR7JI7G2WD2CTVMZ7LM667FD4 Ugly Bunny

     I’m OK with Divorce bill BUT PLEASE GIVE PRIORITY TO FOI BILL. Tengene naman oh!

  • agoroy12

    This Government is getting so evil.  Look what happen in the US last week. The kid grow up with a divorce parents. He murdered a lot of kids and adults. Cory never teach her kids like this. What happen to PNOY. Pnoy sisters needs to step up a preserve the integrity of their mother CORY.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      What stupid logic.

      ONE kid who did something bad had divorced parents, so that MUST mean that divorce MUST lead to violent behavior.

      Get real.

      • dotCommer64

        While i honor your opinion, i dont think its as stupid as it sounds. People are emotional (that’s what separate us from ordinary animals) and having divorced parents is hard for kids, im married, sometimes i do wish there is divorce (if you know what i mean), but i need to sacrifice for the sake of my kids, my kids needs us both.

      • Jane Tan

        Well, for the sake of the argument, all the while feeling that you want a divorce, do you or your wife any differently, especially around the kids?

      • dotCommer64

         Nope, as i said we are emotional, all one need is a break, then we can sort it out again.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        So you believe that, because ONE single kid killed people had divorced parents, divorce leads to kids becoming murderers?  Because that is seriously stupid logic.

        Hey, how about this?  The Virginia Tech massacre was perpetrated by Seung-Hui Cho, a Korean-American with married parents.  That MUST mean that being Korean must make you a mass murderer!  OR that kids who grow up under married parents are more likely to become mass murderers!
         
        Your stand on divorce is one thing: that is something that should be debated.  Statements as stupid as agoroy’s need to be roundly condemned as moronic.

      • dotCommer64

        Nope, that’s a sarcastic argument. It wont get you anywhere, but its an established fact that kids with divorced parents grew up with a trauma. Murderer? maybe, Peaceful? Maybe.. who knows? do you know? i dont.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Sarcastic?  I’m using the exact same logic he is.  Where, exactly, is the difference?

      • dotCommer64

         I do understand he is trying to make a point, you took him literally. I can read his point is kids with divorced parents grew up “strange”, strange as its.. not normal. Can you guarantee that kids with divorced parents, it doesnt matter if they turned up murderer.. grew up normal?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Can you guarantee that kids with married parents grow up normal?

        He might have been trying to make a point: it was very poorly done, if so.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SAGKZON3CUMS2QVBSXOIK3KM64 J Mapagmahal

        If I were the kid of two very unhappy married people. I’d rather them be happy living separate lives so there’s no resentment on all sides.

        Like they say “Pag pinag-ISA ng DIOS di puedeng paghiwalaying ng TAO”.
        So pag naghiwalay ang 2 tao, malamang di DIOS ang nagbuklod sa kanila, TAO siguro, like si father, tao kaya natutukso kay cute young boy, or si judge or mayor tao. kaya puede pag hiwalayin.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        hehe..hindi naman c judge or c mayor nagbuklod..kau mismong mag asawa ay nagsumpaan para sa commitment na yan…with the blessing of God..pero kung ibang God nga ung sinumpaan nyo, eh malamang un ung mangyari…kulang kc sa faith..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SAGKZON3CUMS2QVBSXOIK3KM64 J Mapagmahal

      Jeffrey Dahmer who used to rape and kill and eat his victims was a product of a very happy, contented marriage of two good nice people but Jeffrey Dahmer is not.
      So agoroy12 if we follow your logic…..ay tanga!

      Bill Clinton, Barrack Obama were both from divorced families, they turned out alright.

      Now, now, Mikey Arroyo is from a NON Divorce family.

      So what’s your point? lol

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PZR7JI7G2WD2CTVMZ7LM667FD4 Ugly Bunny

    FOI MUNA! FOI! Nagoopen nanaman kayo ng controversial bill eh ung FOI tatabunan nyo nanaman!

    Step up naman mga MEDIA, let congress know what the people want.

    FOI!!!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PNTIGXL3JZVKOJDRXXDYGGBUUY Jerry

    Divorce on these two grounds, adultery and abandonment with the guilty party paying child support.

    • Jane Tan

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SW6KXGNWNTZ2IU3DPAFIYIXNB4 CliffordM

    I THINK CONGRESS SHOULD ALSO CONCENTRATE ON FREEDOM OF INFORMATION COZ ITS ALREADY PASS BY SENATE BY 17-0 VOTE.THE HOUSE MUST DO ITS PART AND SHARE OF THE BURDEN.

  • http://twitter.com/wetwidewild wetwidewild

    divorce isn’t something to be proud of.

    why so many controversial names for laws ?

    can we just call it women’s right, or marriage right ? 

  • theoklab

    please go ahead with this bill because this will help very much to a lot of people. we are only one of the few countries on earth that has do not have divorce bill. 

  • Toxic Waste

    maraming kasal na nanagsasama pero madalas mag-away at walang respeto sa isa’t isa na parang di mag-asawa; maraming hindi kasal pero nagsasama ng matagal, may pagmamahalan at may respeto sa isa’t isa. ANg mag-asawa na wala ng pag-asang magmahalan pa; bakit kailangan itali ng batas? Kaya, kahit kasal.. nagtataksilan di; ang lalaki, may binabahay na iba; ang bababe, nagpapabahay sa iba… ganun din eh. Ngayon dahil jan, marami tuloy illigitimate child… Isluong na Divorce Bill para magkaroon ng systema…

  • imongredneck

    Here’s a good one for the lawyers. I can see PH becoming a divorce capital of Asia. But won’t they go for same sex marriage first ? This way, that issue is already settled by the time the divorce industry is in full swing.

    • Diepor

      All other countries in the world has divorce allready , that means your words are idiotic.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      It’s already legal everywhere else, so the idea that the Philippines would somehow become a regional leader is just dumb.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XQIPMGHIKFLIQX2GYRZPEV2VIY floydelyn

    easily more than 50% of filipino families have at least 3 kids and up. who will look after the kids, especially if the divorced spouses remarry? will the congressmen also set up support funds for the kids left out in the cold? if you legalize divorce, that creates room for an additional 2 more families, formed separately by the divorced spouses. and that means more kids in our streets.
    are we helping solve the problem of poverty, little-or-no-education, etc. with this divorce law? pera at pera din lang naman ang problema ng karamihan ng dysfunctional families. why not just help the spouses get much-needed jobs. if you serve them the escape called divorce, where’s our guarantee that the ex-couple will shed off their traits/habits that contributed to the failure of the original marriage in the first place.
    debates about divorce may be fun for some but really, it is serious stuff. why? the lives of too many kids become a big question mark when their parents find an easy, legal way out. mas lalong kawawa ang mga bata.

    • Jane Tan

      Alimony after divorce is support funds for the kids, custody keeps them from being left out in the cold.

      Though I agree with you. If they should ever enact a divorce law, they should impose grounds for divorce.

    • Diepor

      It works in the rest of the world so why not here. People are allready separated and have new family , why not legalize it?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SAGKZON3CUMS2QVBSXOIK3KM64 J Mapagmahal

      Yes floydelyn, divorce law could include mandatory child support until the kids are 18 yrs old or in college.
      Actually divorce laws protect women and childred from abusive (not just physical) fathers.

      Questions for you. If you are a female (you sound like one) and your OFW  husband left you with your 3 kids and does not pay you any child support or spousal support. I mean ZERO support for you.
      What is your right in our current laws? Are they favorable to you if ever implemented?
      And let say after you were only 25 when that happened and then after let’s say after10 years of abandonment you’ve met a guy who wants to marry you?
      You have no money for annulment (ANNULMENT is only for people with money and power in the Philippines because 80 percent of the population cannot afford to go thru annulment on their own).

      Then you’d wish there’s a divorce law. Marami po tayong ganyan sitwasyon.

      • batangpaslit

        You have deep knowledge concerning the subject. I trust, whoever is the Committee in Congress would be working on this Bill, will bring you into the loop as Resource Person with pay
        Am impressed!

  • dotCommer64

    These are the “priority” laws that they want to enact, there
    are so many problems, bigger problems, flooding, high power rate, un-employment, FOI
    bill, corruption, contractual employment etc… they opt for no brainer laws first. Ad-hoc
    government solutions to problems.

     

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    GOOD YAN!!!!!!! DIVORCE BILL!!!

  • wilfel

    Its about time. Why take a long time to open the discussion ? Is congreeman Rufus trying to say something that his fellow Congressma don’t what to hear. Why not allow couples who are  unhappy married to go and live a seperate life. Maybe the Congressman is afraid that is wife will divorce him so he can go to live with his mistresses. This is what happen in the Philippines is that since there is no divorce law so men will have No. 2, 3, 4 and so on. Let the divorce law go forward and see unhappy couples go live a happy life thereafter.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQPOCGSITYMSD2UTYIN4TJP56U Rene

    Bring it on Speaker!!!! you will have overwhelming support from the people!!!

  • http://twitter.com/wetwidewild wetwidewild

    if there has to be a divorce law, it should make the divorce harder, not easier.

    anyone who divorces, has to wait for 5 years to marry again.

  • Guest

    Yes to RH but No to Divorce bill. RH precludes marriage, it will be tantamount to ignorance to both individuals getting married then after “sawa” a divorce. Why get married if you could stopped it during and after the “tikiman thing”. That’s the essence of the so-called “satisfying and gratifying sex” in the RH.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SW6KXGNWNTZ2IU3DPAFIYIXNB4 CliffordM

    AFTER THE RH BILL YOU SHOULD CERTIFY AS URGENT THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION BILL.THIS IS THE BREAD AND BUTTER OF YOUR ADMINISTRATION.THE SLOGAN AND BRAND OF PRESIDENCY KUNG WALANG CORRUPT WALANG MAHIRAP.TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY BY INSTITUTIONALIZING IT.SENATE HAS 17-0 VOTE ON CORRUPTION.STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT…U HAVE TO TAKE THE ADVANTAGE IT IS NOW MR PRESIDENT.TO STRIKE TWO FOR PROGRESS.

  • E Rigby

    I agree that a Divorce Law in the Philippines is long overdue.  I’m a Catholic but I also believe in the principle of Separation of Church and State.  Not all Pinoys are Catholic and thus, the non-Catholics should not be forced to live under laws dictated by the Catholic Church.  The government needs to be fair to all its citizens regardless of their religious background.   In addition, human beings make mistakes and sometimes, a mistake is made in choosing a spouse.  A divorce law should give those people another shot at lifelong happiness by providing them with a legal process to correct their mistakes.   They should not be condemned to live a life of unhappiness and all of us who are not involved in their relationship should stay away from rendering any moral judgment on them. 

    • dotCommer64

       I dont share your understanding on separation of church and state, yes they are separate but we are citizens of this country and at the same time catholic. Does that mean i dont participate anymore in crafting laws in this country? Im just using my reason, being the only two country left besides the Vatican doesnt automatically mean we are wrong, perhaps we should study it further why marriage broke, most failed marriage that i know is because of money.

      Im open for discussion with divorce, but this laws can wait.. we got other problems, bigger problems.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        We aren’t smarter than the rest of the world.

        But regardless, the only real objection to this is based on religious grounds, and that alone means it should be passed.

      • dotCommer64

         Pass it because its against on religious grounds? then it that case, your no better than the people you accuse off. Reject it because of religious grounds, pass it because its against religious grounds, same difference.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        What?  Read my statement again.

        I’m saying that if the only actual objections to something are written in a 2000 year old book that not everyone in the country actually believes in, and the benefits would be real and tangible, then the bill should be passed.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H4PIIBVQK4BSXMIKFRWWAAQAUY Heartrob ng Pugad Baboy

        I agree, you don’t understand the concept of separation of church and state.  

        The reason you don’t get it is because you see it in the point of view as a Catholic.  

        How about we start enacting Muslim laws (Sharia)?  How would you feel if your government tells you can’t eat certain food (no pork, no liquor), do certain things, dress a certain way, etc.  Do you still think church/religion should influence our laws?

    • $20722540

      yong mga muslims ba sumosunod sa Catholic Church? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SW6KXGNWNTZ2IU3DPAFIYIXNB4 CliffordM

    I HAVE A STRONG RESERVATION OF THE DIVORCE LAW ONE THE IMMEDIATE AND RUSH HURRY OF DIVORCE WITHOUT FULLY UNDERSTAND THE MARRIAGE LIFE BY REASON OF AGE AND MATURITY WITHOUT HAVING TO RECONCILE FIRST.SECOND THE DISAPPEARANCE OF CLOSE FAMILY TIES WOULD BE GONE.MORE PROMISCUSITY CAN EASILY GET ANOTHER PARTNER.THIRD THE MORAL FABRIC FILIPINO SOCIETY WILL BE WIPEOUT.I VOTED FOR RH FOR THE HEALTH OF THE MOTHER AND FOR THE CHILD.NOT THE DIVORCE LAW.

    • Diepor

      I thought Philippines have a big sex industry , is that a moralistic country?

  • Noredlac

    i’m happily married, and pray high heavens that we last till each last breath…but i’m yes to a divorce law

  • əʞɪɯ

    oh cmon, doesn’t the philippines want to be the last one standing (aside from the vatican).   the philippines always love to be in some kind of record book — worthwhile or not: guiness book of records entry “only remaining country in the world without divorce (aside from the vatican)”

  • http://twitter.com/wetwidewild wetwidewild

     sexuality is the source of problem.
     all we need is an asexual law.

  • indiosbravos2002

    I think Im gonna draw the line here. I might be for RH, but Im certanly not for divorce. The RH bill is easier to pass, just because its an amalgamation of exisiting laws and practices ( sex education, women rights, etc). Divorce is an all new concept much different from annulment. I always thnk that you need to think twice to get into a relationship and a 1000x times in order to get married, just because its a contract. If you get married for convenience or the heck of it, then suffer for eternity because you did not know better.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      So going by that statement, if you have a daughter who gets married young and ends up in an unhappy marriage where her husband either ignores and cheats on her or simply beats her up, you’d still be saying that she should ‘suffer for eternity’ because she didn’t know better, right?

      • superpilipinas

        see you are patching problems. why not solve the root cause…..teach your daughter to find the right person and only marry somebody who she becomes absolutely sure will respect and love her for as long as they live. she will only learn if you yourself give her the love, nurturing, and moral education she needs.

        unfortunately some people just teach their daughter not to forget using condoms (patching problems)!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        No, that won’t wipe out the problem because people make mistakes, and will continue to make mistakes.

        Your naivete is just really sad.

        Regardless, I was talking more about his logic: that people should suffer for the rest of their lives because they didn’t know better.  That is sickening, and that frankly isn’t Christian.

      • Ben Tampadong

        O e di kasuhan ng adultery o kaya anti-violence against Women. Suffer for eternity? Sa kulungan na yung kalunyero o bakit mo pa po-problemahin yung annulment ng kasal? 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Because you need to prove these things, and that isn’t always possible.  Duh.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D37WZ2JMEQUZR4QG74FRVXUJFQ John

        and your daughter will be forever tied to that good for nothing husband?

  • indiosbravos2002

    I think Belmonte is going for broke. However, Im going to support FOI over this one. i dont think its not an urgent bill, unless, we want to see divorce happenng left and right in the next 5 years. i always believe that marriage is the ultimate cntract. Dont enter in one until your really sure to commit. Otherwise, its not somethng to joke about.

    In the senate, I see Pimentel and Escudero ardent supporters of the bill. Just saying….

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQPOCGSITYMSD2UTYIN4TJP56U Rene

      hehehe 2 obvious vote for divorce eh…yes to divorce!!1

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        may balak?wag ka na mag asawa…kung kapatid mo na babae kaya e abandona, matuwa ka?

  • superpilipinas

    As I said yesterday , the door has been opened and the line has been crossed.

    You could say we draw the line here. But the previous generation has drawn the line previously and we crossed it. We draw another line and the next generation will redraw the line.

    So sorry to all but, there is no turning back now.

    Next is Divorce and Same Sex Marriage. Then the new generation will say we should not be conservative and we take “progressive” to the next level, And then they will ask for legalized abortion, then the next will be legalized marriage between cousins of the first degree. Then who knows what. There will be no limit.

    It has happened in Europe and the US. There you have massacres of teens and babies. Product of their so called “progressive and liberal” ideas which are mostly founded by redefined “freedom and rights”.

    In the future, we will look back and remember that Aquino, Cayetano, Santiago, and Lagman, opened the doors and made us cross the point of no return.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQPOCGSITYMSD2UTYIN4TJP56U Rene

      bishop arguelles? still awake?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      “Next is Divorce and Same Sex Marriage”

      Fingers crossed.

      All I’m asking is if that they happen, and if society doesn’t completely break down as you seem to think will happen, you should apologize to the internet for being wrong. and a moron.

      • superpilipinas

        We’re just following the footsteps of the US and wester countries.

        By the way, Washington State has legalized marijuana use.

        Merry Free Condom and a Happy New Sex Partner!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        I feel sorry for you people. 

        You blindly think these things are bad without actually understanding why.

      • superpilipinas

        I feel sorry for the children who will suffer because of parents not understanding what “FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE TILL DEATH DO US PART”. These people are usually only binded by selfish needs like sex. (Based on condoms)

        Merry Free Condom and Happy New Sex Partner!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        I do as well.  It’s a bit stupid, however, to pretend that that doesn’t happen now, without the divorce bill.

        Still, I must repeat my previous point: that I feel sorry for people like you.  May you one day actually comprehend the world as it is.

      • superpilipinas

        It happens and it is already ugly. Do you want it to get even much worse.

        The 20+ people mostly babies that was massacred in Connecticut was a ffckg product of dysfunctional family!

        Instead of teaching our children about good and righteous things, we teach them about condoms!

        compehending is different from absorbing. most of us are absorbing what our society is becoming…just getting by with patches to problems and not sacrificing to find real solutions.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        If anything, divorce means children from broken homes will have more of a chance, as instead of living in a house where two people hate each other, those parents can find people they actually LIKE and kids can grow up in loving families.

        Blaming the Connecticut thing on divorce is really, really stupid.  The Virginia Tech killer had happily married parents, does that mean living in a happily married household makes you a serial killer?  Obviously not.  He and the Connecticut guy had mental health issues completely unrelated to their familial situations, and people like you using incidents like that to score political points is just sickening.

        And yes, comprehending is different from absorbing.  That doesn’t change thae fact that you haven’t done the former.

      • superpilipinas

        see again, you prefer a patch than a real solution. a patch that has side effects.

        just ask yourself, how many juveniles are from divorced parents? how many are not from divorced parents.

        the solution is not divorce. the solution is to educate your children to love and sacrifice for their commitment. Not to commit easily only to quit when they want to. Marriage is a sacred commitment. Once you get married, your happiness must be the happiness of your spouse and your children. If you make as mistake, it’s your mistake and not your children. You have no right to make your children suffer because of your mistake. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        There you go again with your ‘patch’ garbage.

        I also don’t think you know what ‘juvenile’ means, but to answer your question, there are more from non-divorced parents.

        Keep living in your naive little world, where educating them means kids never make mistakes.  Talk to me once you’re ready to actually discuss real world issues.

    • AntiAko

      Asus, alam mo OA ka. Just put Divorce on the table for those who need it. Anong gagawin mo sa mga mag-asawang wala nang pag-ibig sa isa’t isa? Sasabihin mo ba sa kanilang magdusa kayo hanggang kamatayan?

      Ang dapat gawin ng simbahan ay mangaral para ang mga mag-asawa ay di na mangangailangan ng Divorce. Pero kung talagang di na maagapan ang pagkawatak ng pamilya, dapat hindi ito ipagkait sa kanila. Pag may divorce, mas mapapangalagaan ang kapakanan ng mga anak dahil mahigpit ding ipatutupad ang responsibilidad ng ina at ama sa pagpapalaki at pagpapa-aral ng mga anak. Sa ngayon, hindi yan nagagampanan ng mga iresponsableng mga  magulang na kusa na lang tumatalikod sa kanilang mga tungkulin,,,

      • superpilipinas

        Yes. Teach your children to go into  qucik sex and marriage and then divorce. That easy, let them just watch how dogs fffck.

        I’ll teach mine on morality, relationship based on love and respect, and sanctity of marriage before committing themselves. Pag nag-asawa sila, iuuna nila ang kanilang asawa at anak….FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE TILL DEATH DO THEY PART! 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Cool, so you should support the bill, because if quick marriages and such are what other people want to do with their lives, and as it doesn’t really affect you, then why are you infringing on other people’s rights?

      • superpilipinas

        Becasue I feel verry sorry for the children who will suffer because of fffckng idiots who get married and only think of themselves.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Which is already happening now.

        Why are you infringing on people’s rights?

      • superpilipinas

        Becasue I feel sorry for children who are made to suffer family breakup due to their ffckng idotic parents who don’t stand up to their commitment. They should sacrifice their happiness and life for their children. It’s their mistake and not their children’s/

        It seems like you don’t care that more children will suffer when divorce becomes an easy thing.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Again, that is ALREADY HAPPENING NOW.  I’ve said that to you like, 2 or 3 times now.  The divorce bill would only free those people to find new partners so kids can actually grow up in loving families.

        Why are you infringing on people’s rights?

      • $20722540

        para mo ng sinabi na ang solution for irresponsible parents ay divorce.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQPOCGSITYMSD2UTYIN4TJP56U Rene

     all the princesses of the rc church, may not be sleeping now after this revelation by speaker belmonte…they have not even have the time to lick their wound, here comes again another blow…simbang gabi’s homilies will no longer be about Christ’s coming to earth to save us, but will all be about RH, divorce….Merry Christmas to us all!

    • superpilipinas

      Merry Free Condoms to all!

  • Datu Suki

    Very, very, good idea.

  • TinimbangNgunitKulang

    Go ahead. Divorce will end the hypocrisy of church annulments. Only the rich can afford annulments which are granted for the right price.

  • superpilipinas

    Divorce is of course a natural progression after RH. Many relationships will be only founded on casual sex. Promiscuity is inevitable and so is broken family. Filipinos have succumbed to this idea of “modern society”. You will see the rise of broken families from this point.

    • panhase

      Look around, you do not see broken families?  You do nou see promiscuity? You do not see casual sex?
      Everybody knows this is reality in the Philippines, it is reality along with the teachings of the catholic Church. Question is who failed?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUDXSLGDJSVES3MAZKXXMXJXXM Ratzkey

    A well outlined divorce law is a very good idea. We are humans and should not be imprisoned for life if our partners change. The priests do not really care because they do not have partners to deal with so what do they know really? But it should not also be made like buying something from the candy store. Same sex marriage/abortion is a totally different dimension. The demand for same sex marriage is very marginal and abortion is far too unimaginable to be passed into a law.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AIYSIJJOL4JNRLHXVTGUH3NYHM The Overlord

    YES TO DIVORCE LAW! It’s about time. Being the only country in the world without a divorce law is a shame!

  • batangpaslit

    Let the debate begin.
    RCC opposition? Moses granted divorce to hard headed couples, which Jesus Christ even cite it.

  • PurpleDaisy13

    DIVORCE Laws must be passed and approved.

    Divorce is permitted by the bible under cases of sexual immorality and unfaithfulness:

    They said to him, “Why then did Moses command one to give a certificate of divorce and to send her away?” Jesus said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”

    - Matthew 19:9

    Thus, if a husband or wife cheats on their spouse, a certificate of divorce may be approved.

    “You have heard the law that says, ‘A man can divorce his wife by merely giving her a written notice of divorce.’ But I say that a man who divorces his wife, unless she has been unfaithful, causes her to commit adultery.”

    - Matthew 5:31

    • superpilipinas

      Why stick to what the bible says?…..Why not abortion also, and same-sex marriage, and legalize marijuana use like in Washington state?

      Connecticut can’t momopolize massacre of babies too. We should have that.

      The Muslims and Jews don’t believe in the Bible. The Atheist too.

      Let’s ask Aquino, Cayetano, Santiago, and Lagman to just make everything legal.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “Why stick to what the bible says?”

        Because what the bible says is all brainwashed and god-fearing servants can relate to.

        Spain didn’t just invade and enslaved Filipinos physically, they enslaved Filipinos mentally by forcing the natives to accept and believe in all the words authors wrote on paper 2000 years ago so Filipinos can learn to fear and be controlled by their inventions.

      • mnlmad

         Superpilipinas, hwag ka nga masyadong OA. Lahat ng bansa sa mundo may divorce law. Pilipinas lang ang wala.Nag erode ba ang morality sa lahat ng bansa except sa Pinas? OA ka talaga.

      • superpilipinas

        he-he-he. at least unique ako na OA.

        ikaw gaya-gaya. kung ano ginagawa ng iba, huwag mo na isipin gayahin mo na lang.

        Kung sa kanila maraming kawawang bata at criminal dahil sa divorce, gayahin di natin….

        kung sa kanila 20+ na bata na-massacre, he-he-he, magkaroon din tayo nun.

        Merry Free Condoms and a Happy New Sex Partner.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

      mali yata pgkaintindi mo purle, kung ganyan pagkaintindi mo, so may balak ka mag commit ng adultery to satisfy the condition of divorce?.no way adultery is permitted by God..

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “so may balak ka mag commit ng adultery to satisfy the condition of divorce?”

        I’m sorry Ace Gave but, “mali yata pgkaintindi mo”

        Your bible is clear:

        “whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”

        In other words, if a spouse engages in sexual immorality, then a certificate of divorce can be granted allowing them to avoid adultery.

        You CANNOT be CHARGED with ADULTERY if you are NO LONGER MARRIED Ace Grave.

        Is that understood Ace Gave?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        Jesus said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so….tapos  sabihin mo pwd?..jesus said, from the beginning it was not so…hindi ba clear?”But I say that a man who divorces his wife, unless she has been unfaithful, causes her to commit adultery.” again, causes here to commit adultery…instead dapat mamuhay ng tuwid ung both parties..hindi na ung isang parte pagkokomitin mo ng adultery..kawawa naman un..kasalanan un

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “tapos  sabihin mo pwd?”

        Yes, “pwd”…in the case of sexual immorality.  Please continue to read what Jesus said Ace Gave:

        Jesus said: And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”

        Is that clear Ace Gave?  Do you understand English well and know the meaning of the word “EXCEPT”?

        If not, then you shall never understand your bible correctly.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        haha..e2 nlng tanong ko, ano ba ung ground or reason purle para mbigyan or ma grant sau ung certificate of devorce?isa isahin natin..

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “ano ba ung ground or reason purle para mbigyan or ma grant sau ung certificate of devorce?”
        If a spouse engages in fornication, they can qualify for a certificate of divorce.

        If a spouse engages in homosexuality, they can qualify for a certificate of divorce.

        if a spouse engages in sexual intercourse with their brother, sister, daughter, son, mother, or father, they can qualify for a certificate of divorce.

        If you engage in sexual acts with an animal…I don’t know what you call that, but again…it can qualify for a certificate of divorce.

        Any form of Sexual Immorality qualifies for a certificate of Divorce according to your bible.

        Is that understood Ace Grave?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        kahit ano pa gawin mo purle, engaging on that activity is a sin pa rin..bawal na bawal yan ..ibig mo sabihin mag commit ng mga sin na yan ung isang parte para lng ma jusfied c devorce?isang party lng kc tinitingnan mo..how about don sa nag commit ng sin?

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “bawal na bawal yan”

        Wrong. 

        Divorce is as legal as Moses permitted and commanded man to give a certificate of Divorce.

        re: “yan ung isang parte para lng ma jusfied c devorce?i”

        Are you afraid of being divorced Ace Grave?

        If you and your spouse are immune to the sexual temptations of this world, you have nothing to worry about.

        Otherwise, you and your spouse are not fit for marriage.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        binata ako purle…sakaling magpakasal ako..i will work for the good of our marriage..ung sinumpaan ky God, ay paninindigan ko..at ngaun plang wla akong balak magdevorce or mag commit ng fornication to lead into devorce..kilalanin mo muna kc bago pkasalan..im now on my seven years, smooth relationship with my gf..

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “i will work for the good of our marriage”

        You may work for the good of your marriage, but that doesn’t guarantee that your spouse will do the same for the good of your marriage.

        re: “at ngaun plang wla akong balak magdevorce or mag commit ng fornication to lead into devorce”

        Of course you don’t have any plans to divorce, you’re not even married.  A long boyfriend/girlfriend relationship is a good stepping stone for marriage, but don’t get any ideas in thinking it is just as good as being married…..because you don’t have legal “obligations” as being a mere boyfriend or girlfriend.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        wla na reply?2log na ko purle…pero e2 clear ko muna..

        Jesus said: And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”
         
        maliwanag purle, except for sexual immorality.. so if a wife commit a sexual immorality, a man can issue a certificate of devorce..tanong, ung pag commit ba ni wife ng sexual immorality, hindi ba adultery un?abswelto ba c wife sa adultery?..c husband lng kc binabantayan mo na mag issue ng certificate of divorce..what happened to a poor wife?..wag tau selfish para sa pansariling kapakanan..

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “tanong, ung pag commit ba ni wife ng sexual immorality, hindi ba adultery un?”

        Not necessarily.

        Go learn the meaning of the Sexual Immorality under FORNICATION Ace Grave….it IS NOT the same as ADULTERY.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        dont interpret the bible using a mere dictionary purle.. interpret the bible using itself..sabi nga maliit man o malaki ung kasalanan, kasalanan pa rin…nagnakaw ka ng 1 milyon at nagnakaw ka ng 1 piso, ang pagnanakaw ng 1 piso ay pagnanakaw pa rin..

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “dont interpret the bible using a mere dictionary purle.. interpret the bible using itself.”

        Your bible IS NOT a dictionary Ace Grave.

        The bible was never meant to provide the definition of words.  That’s the purpose of a Dictionary. 

        Today is NOT 300 A.D. Ace Grave…it is 2012 A.D.   Welcome to the modern world of Education.

      • simondj

        your dictionary is not enough purple,,, because no word is not foreign to others.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “your dictionary is not enough purple”

        Really?

        simondj, give us an English word in your bible and we’ll look up the meaning for you in a Dictionary.  Or perhaps you’re making up your own words which is why a dictionary is not enough for you.

      • simondj

        do you know all the dialect in the philippines? we copy the sounds of the birds when we like to catch them, yet we do not understand them, but to the birds not a single sound is without meaning.
        i gave you one example/answer the meaning of fornication and adultery, Jesus define it, you have deifine it, somebody define it, everybody define it.
        but Jesus defination is absolute, but ours are not. we define only of what we know, so what we do not know we cant define.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “but Jesus defination is absolute, but ours are not. we define only of what we know, so what we do not know we cant define.”

        Jesus did not write those words in your bible simondj.  Authors wrote those words in the bible using words that can be interpreted properly and that we may understand. So that 2000 years from now, we can still understand exactly what the authors were trying to tell us.

        Now, if you believe the Authors didn’t know how to interpret Jesus’ words correctly, then you’re screwed as a god-fearing servant.

      • simondj

        2 Peter 1- 20 & 21: First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation,  because no prophecy ever came by the impulse of man, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.

      • simondj

         But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Mat.5:28

      • PurpleDaisy13

        Yes simondj, such sexual immorality also qualifies for Divorce according to the bible.

        Thank you for looking for more reasons approved for divorce by the bible.

      • simondj

        okay, divorce was granted by God, although it is not in the beginning, but because of hardness of the human heart,,, but still you are not suppose to get married after the divorce, according to Pauls writing. the bible allows us to separate so that our children will not be defiled. or even we are separated we must not defile ourselves. and Paul advice us to get married only to the Lord.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “but still you are not suppose to get married after the divorce”

        Why don’t you show us where that is stated in your bible simondj.

        If not, then you don’t understand the purpose of divorce…it is for the purpose of getting out of a bad marriage with an opportunity to legally marry another person

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        purple, maraming salamat..antok na talaga ako..timbangin mo nlng if what is wrong and what is ryt…good nyt…

      • simondj

        1 corinthians 7:27 are you bound to a wife? do not seek to be lossed. are you lossed for a wife? do not seek a wife. 39 a wife is bound to his husband as long as the husband lives,, but if the husband dies she is free to marry to whom she wishes,,, only to the Lord.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        simondj, we asked if you could provide anything that says in the bible that “you are not suppose to get married after the divorce”

        We didn’t ask about wives and husbands being bound to each other….

        We asked you to defend your statement of “not suppose to get married after the divorce”

        If a husband dies and can remarry….then show us in the bible where it says…
        if a husband divorces and cannot remarry.

        If not, then you failed and your claim is false.

      • simondj

        basahin mo,,are you bound to a wife? do not seek to lossed. are you lossed for a wife? do not seek a wife.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        Don’t change the subject simondj.  That’s futile.

        Instead, please provide proof as requested earlier.

      • simondj

        i will say it in my own words for you to understand,, if you have a wife do not seek to lossed, and if you lossed you wife do not seek one. naandiyan po iyan if you will analyze it . but i will give some proof. Paul in his wrting advice the virgins to remain as i am (means remain single). 2. Paul advice the widows to remain widows and if they get married, should marry only to the Lord.3. Paul also advice the widows/lossed their spouse that he/she maybe happier if remained unmarried to his judgement, and thinks Paul has the Spirit of God in saying this. 4, my personal experience, how can you believe yourself, or by others if you breaks your first vow to God?

      • PurpleDaisy13

        I’m sorry simondj, but you CANNOT dictate people’s lives after they divorce…you cannot force Filipinos not to marry again or marry the Lord after divorce.

        The Philippine laws are ruled by Democracy and Freedom, not spirits.  It is a Filipino’s choice to do what they please to do with their lives and their childrens’ lives after divorce, not Paul’s choice.

      • simondj

        i am sorry also, i am not compelling them, there is no compulsion in religion, i am happy just to inform you and them about what the bible is telling.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “i am happy just to inform you and them about what the bible is telling.”

        How could you inform people about what the bible is telling when you can’t even agree to the words in the bible as defined in a Dictionary?

      • simondj

        Isaiah 34 – 16: Seek out the book of the Lord and read: Not one of these shall fail; none shall want her mate; For the mouth of the Lord has commanded, and his Spirit has gathered them.   ibig sabihin,,, hindi na kailangan ang ibang libro ,,, hindi na kailangan ibang references,, dahil pinisan ito ng spiritu ng Diyos.

      • PurpleDaisy13

         Matthew 19:8:

        Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard.”

        When your God instructs Moses to permit Divorce, then Divorce shall be permitted.  This is very clear in the bible simondj and cannot be misinterpreted even by Jesus himself.

      • simondj

        God did not give instruction to moses. moses without clear instruction from God just permited them to divorce because of the hardness of their heart. and Jesus continue to explain ,,this is not so in the beginning. the original plan was one man one woman, and the two shall become one flesh, the man will leave his mother and father and cleave to his wife.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        simondj, do not challenge the Laws of Moses and make no further excuses to evade your responsibilities.

        If you subscribe to the bible, then you must obey all of his Laws simondj:

        Joshua 1:7 –

        “Be strong and very courageous. Be careful to obey all the instructions
        Moses gave you
        . Do not deviate from them, turning either to the right or
        to the left. Then you will be successful in everything you do.”

        If you want to live, then you must obey the Laws of Moses.  No ands, ifs, or buts simondj:

        Hebrews 10:28 –

        “For anyone who refused to obey the law of Moses was put to death without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.”

        Do not make up false assumptions about anything Moses instructs you to follow simondj or else you are insulting your Lord God:

        Nehemiah 10:29 –

        all these now join their brothers the nobles, and bind themselves with a
        curse and an oath to follow the Law of God given through Moses the
        servant of God and to obey carefully all the commands
        , regulations and
        decrees of the LORD our Lord.

      • simondj

        si Joshua po at iyong mga kasamahan niya takot sumugod sa kalaban kaya mayroon ganyang verse para gabayan siya. guide nga, then sabi sa kanya you will successful in all you do.
        about the law, no one can follow the law (you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony),, the law is just our tutor, our guide or giudelines, or schoolmaster to bring us to righteousness of God. then if righteousness of God has been revealed, Jesus Christ, we are no longer under a tutor but is of faith. you want to follow the law? who is hindering you? the law was added because of transgression, the law has no effect to a righteous man, the law cant make a man sanctified but make the crime more sophisticated. no man is justified by following the law is evident,,, for after the law comes the knowledge of sin. only Jesus follow the law, so he has the right to remove it, so that we who are unrighteous can become  righteous in he sight of God,,, only if we believe in the finish work of Jesus. what the law could not do,,,, Jesus Christ do it for us,,, again for those who believe only.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “about the law, no one can follow the law (you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony)”

        simondj, if you CANNOT follow your God’s laws and commandments and also believe “no one can follow the law”, then you have no reason to be a servant of the Lord.  For such lack of confidence and obedience to God’s laws and commandments shall never be rewarded salvation and eternal life in the Kindgom of Heaven.

        Just give up simondj, you are beginning to confuse even yourself about your own loyalty to uphold God’s laws and commandments.

        If you don’t believe “no one can follow God’s laws”, your own bible says your wrong…King Hezekiah followed God’s laws as stated in the following passage:

        2 Chronicles 31:20 –

        In this way, King Hezekiah handled the distribution throughout all Judah, doing what was pleasing and good in the sight of the LORD his God.

        In all that he did in the service of the Temple of God and in his efforts to follow God’s laws and commands, Hezekiah sought his God wholeheartedly. As a result, he was very successful.

         

      • simondj

        Hezekiah do what is pleasant and good to the sight of God,,, what did he do? he did it in service of the temple of God, and his efforts to follow Gods law,,, imphasizes added, his effort only to follow Gods law.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        ayan oh, sabi mo..if a spouse engages in sexual immorality…, d ba adultery yan?at ang adultery ay bawal..clear tau?

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “d ba adultery yan”

        Ace Grave, apparently you don’t understand the exact meaning of  “adultery”.

        When you are married and you have engaged in sexual acts with another “MARRIED” person, that is called ADULTERY.  If the person you are engaging in sexual acts is NOT MARRIED, that is called FORNICATION.

        So if a spouse engages in fornication, they can qualify for a certificate of divorce.

        If a spouse engages in homosexuality, they can qualify for a certificate of divorce.

        If you engage in sexual acts with an animal…I don’t know what you call that, but again…it can qualify for a certificate of divorce.

        Any form of Sexual Immorality qualifies for a certificate of Divorce according to your bible.

        Is that understood Ace Grave?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LWXDMZBYPCZJK7PEQEG5UHEFB4 Ace Grave

        so ok lng ba ung fornication?hindi ba mgkakasala ung nag commit ng fornication?..kahit ano pa gawin mo, ang pag commit ng fornication, bawal pa rin…

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “hindi ba mgkakasala ung nag commit ng fornication?”

        If you or your partner is guilty of FORNICATION, then you and your partner ARE NOT MEANT TO BE.

        If either of you cannot uphold the oath you promised before many witnesses and your God during your wedding day, then God was never there and your marriage was never blessed. 

        Thus, you and your partner ARE NOT MEANT TO BE.

        So to correct your silly, fake, and false marriage, both of you should undergo the process of Divorce.

      • simondj

        the purpose of the separation is not to get married again,,, the purpose is so that you will not be defiled and also your children

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “the purpose of the separation is not to get married again”

        That’s not in the bible simondj unless you can show us.

        The purpose of divorce is to end a marriage.  What you choose to do after that has nothing to do with “separation”, it has everything to do with how you want to live your life and for your children moving forward.

    • yesyesyo

      Very clear, the bible allows divorce in cases of unfaithfulness and sexual immorality.

      • simondj

        moses permitted you because of the hardness of your hearts, but it was not so in the beginning,,, naintindihan mo ba iyan ? dahil daw sa katigasan ng damdamin.

      • frudo

        pero sabi ni Lord Jesus Christ mismo naka sulat sa kulay pulang letra intindihin mo mabuti  And i say unto you , Whosoever shall put away his wife EXCEPT  it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery,  so malinaw na biblical ang divorce at kung kasalana man ng tao ang idivorce nya ang asawa nya, sya nman ang haharap sa Dios hindi ikaw sya ang paparusahan, so walang masama sa divorce bill dhil choice to ng individual, 

      • simondj

        tama po iyan,,, you can divorce your spouse if the reason is sexual immorality, there is no question about that. and i told you the reason,, the reason is, so that you will not be defiled and so as your children. we are called to be holy because our God is holy. and the bible does not recommend you to mary again, and i told you my answer 1,2,3, but i will ive you 4,,, because the intensity of your satisfaction will not be met, because of your memories keep flashing back, your emotion also is shatterde because of pain agony and defeat of your first marriage, plus your physical body is young no longer, plus your money and property is divided, plus your time and effort is divided. but the most sad part is you can not remove the pain and the misery in your memory,,, so the bible is advicing us to remained as we are. or to be married to the Lord, or to just fulfill our first vow.
        opss akala ko i am answering purple,,, just follow my blog.

      • frudo

        hindi ko kailangan ang reason mo wala nman ako balak i divorce ang asawa ko at wala ako balak magasawa ulit, masaya ako sa buhay ko, ang usapin dito ay kung masama ba ang divorce bill, ito ay choice ng individual, at hindi ikaw ang mananagot sa Dios kung makipag divorce man ang ibang mga PInoy,  so bakit nyo tutulan ang pag papasa ng batas tungkol dito? ay kala ko ako ang sinagot mo si purple pala sorry peace

      • simondj

        maganda ang sinabi mo, okay sasagutin kita ng malalim, pero hindi ko na sasbihin ang mga verses, pero galing ito sa bible. ang biblia ay malawak ang sagot o malawak ang sakop, at maraming leeway tungkiol dito. sa magasawa ang payo ng biblia ay magkapatawaran palagi sa isat isa. ika nga eh forgive. pero kung ayaw talagang magbago at magkakapatayan na pwede hiwalayan, pero remain faithful kahit na siya ay hindi faithful. at hindi ka naman nagkakasala diyan, ngayon kung makulit pwede divorce lalo na kung may ari ari na mahirap paghatian. pero hanggang maaari, una magpatawad, then magtiis to be holy, then kung wala na talaga paraan, pasok ang government authority thru divorce.

      • frudo

        ok so sangayon ka rin sa divorce?, yun ang maliwanag? pero sang ayon ako sa sinabi mo na dapat magpatawad pero sana nman tutal di nman talaga tyo magkakapare pareho ng paniniwla at pananampalataya, hayaan nalang natin na isa batas to para nman may pagpipilian ang mga tao kasi buhay nman nila yun eh basta wag lang magkulang ang Simbahan at mga Relihiyon sa pag papayo sa mga member nila? yung ang trabaho ng Church, pero ang tutulan ang pag papasa ng batas ng Gobyerno batas na para sa lahat ng tao sa Pinas ano man ang status nila, paniniwala, pananaw, pananmpalataya ay hindi nman patas para sa lahat di ba malinaw na discrimination yun? yaan nating pagdebatehan at pagbotohan, at tangapin ang desisyon ng nakakarami bilang democrasyang bansa tayo,

      • simondj

        salamat po sa pang unawa ninyo.

    • txtman

      >>>>>>>>>>>>   BASAHIN MO NG BUO <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

            7 THEY THEN ASKED WHY DID MOISES COMMAND THAT A MAN GIVE HIS WIFE A CERTIFICATE OF DIVORCE AND SEND HER AWAY?

      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

           8 JESUS REPLIED, MOISES PERMITTED YOU TO DIVORCE YOUR WIFE BECAUSE YOUR HEARTS WERE HARD. BUT IT WAS NOT THIS FROM THE BEGINNING.

      *******  BASAHIN NG BUO

      *******SABI NGA, MADAMING FAKE NA PROPETA KONO ANG LALABAS PARA
            LINLANGIN ANG MGA TAO

      ******** AND TAKE NOTE

      ONLY A MAN CAN DIVORCE HIS WIFE IF THE WIFE COMMITS ADULTERY

      BASED ON THE LAW OF MOISES

      ******TAKE NOTE

      BASED SA LAW NI MOISES

      NOT

      FROM THE LAW OF GOD, THE CREATOR

      PITIFUL

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “ONLY A MAN CAN DIVORCE HIS WIFE IF THE WIFE COMMITS ADULTERY BASED ON THE LAW OF MOISES”

        Why are you rejecting the laws of Moses given and instructed by your God txtman?  Do you no longer respect and obey God’s son as declared in your bible?

        For anyone who refused to obey the law of Moses was put to death without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.

        Just think how much worse the punishment will be for those who have
        trampled on the Son of God
        , and have treated the blood of the covenant,
        which made us holy, as if it were common and unholy, and have insulted
        and disdained the Holy Spirit who brings God’s mercy to us.”

        - Hebrews 10:28

        Jesus expects you to obey the Laws of Moses txtman. Why do you want to deny Jesus, Moses, and your God txtman? Are you confused about your own bible rules?

        Jesus said: Didn’t Moses give you the law? Yet none of you keeps the law! Why do you want to kill Me?”

        - John 7:19

      • txtman

        ANO YUN ULIT?

        LAWS GIVEN BY GOD TO MOISES?

        HELLLOOOOOO????

        PAKIBASA NGA ULIT SINULAT KO.
        .
        .
        .
        HHHHHMMMMMMMMM

        GALING NG QUOTATIONS NATIN AH

        PARANG SO TRUE LAHAT YAN
        .
        .
        PERO HINDI MO AKO MALILINLANG INENG

        SAGOT KO SA IYO

        BASAHIN MO ULIT ANG BIBLIA NG BUO
        .
        .

         
        SABI NGA SA BIBLIA

        MASKI SI SATANAS

        AY NAGBANGGIT DIN NG MGA LAMAN GALING
            SA BIBLIA

        PARA TUKSUHIN SI JESUS
        .
        .
        DO I NEED TO SAY MORE KUNG ANO KA?

        PITIFUL

        .
        .
        QUESTION SA IYO PROPETANG FAKE

        ANO

        ANG MASMATIMBANG

        BATAS NA GAWA NG TAONG SI MOISES – DAHIL SA PRESSURE
        NG MGA MAKAKATING TAO

        OR

        ANG BATAS NI GOD, THE CREATOR

        MALIWANAG PA SA SIKAT NG ARAW

        KUNG ANO ANG SINABI NG BIBLIA

        DAPAT PA BANG PAG-ISIPAN YAN?

        PITIFUL

      • PurpleDaisy13

        Are those all your own opinions txtman?  Or do you have actual passages from your bible to back up all of your own opinions?

        The fact is…DIVORCE is permitted by the bible under cases of sexual immorality.  And you cannot deny this txtman…your bible tells you plain and simple:

        “You have heard the law that says, ‘A man can divorce his wife by merely giving her a written notice of divorce.’ But I say that a man who divorces his wife, unless she has been unfaithful, causes her to commit adultery.”

        Matthew 5:31

      • txtman

        READ

        MATTHEW 19: 4-6

        THAT IS THE LAW OF GOD, THE CREATOR
        .
        .
        PITIFUL

      • PurpleDaisy13

        READ ON TO MATTHEW 19:14:

        Not everyone can accept this statement,” Jesus said. “Only those whom God helps.

        In other words, marriages that fall to temptation of sexual immorality qualify for Divorce as your God never blessed their wedding and their marriage as originally thought.

        Fake and false marriages must be discontinued by way of Divorce.  Only pure and healthy marriages were joined by God….not the fake ones.

      • txtman

        READ

        MATHEW 19: 4-6

        THAT IS THE LAW OF GOD, THE CREATOR

        NO MORE

        NO LESS

        PITIFUL

      • PurpleDaisy13

        Divorce is Okay under circumstances of Unfaithfulness.

        JESUS said: “And I tell you this, whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery–unless his wife has been unfaithful.

        - Matthew 19:9

        txtman, if you are beating your wife or cheating on your wife, stop now.  Or if your wife is fornicating with her co-workers or your neighbors and friends, dump her.  Because if Divorce becomes legal in the Philippines, you might be one of the first going to Divorce court.

      • frudo

        matthew 19 v 8 to v 9 he saith unto them  Moses  because of the hardness of your heart suffered you to put away your wives: but in the beggining it was not so. verse 9 but i say unto you, , whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery, pag binasa mo yan nakasulat yan na kulay pula na ibig sabihin si Kristo mismo ang nagsabi, kaya biblical ang divorce pde i divorce ng lalaki ang asawa nyang babae kung nangaliwa ito, kaya hindi masama ang divorce bill dahil choice ito ng individual choice ito ng tao at kung kaslanan man ito, hindi nman ikaw ang mapaparusahan kunghindi ang nagfile ng divorce, so ano problema mo dun,bakit annulment di mo matutulan, di mo mapalagan, 

      • txtman

        HINDI MO NA NGA ALAM SINASABI MO

        PAPANO KA MAGKAKAROON NG DIVORCE

        KUNG FAKE MARRIAGE?

        FAKE PROPHET TALAGA

        YOU DON’T EVEN BELIEVE IN GOD

        AND YET YOU WANT TO USE THE BIBLE?

        .
        .

        ALAM MO

        MAY GUMAWA NA YAN MINSAN

        .
        .

        SI SATANAS
        .
        .

        SIKAT KA!

        KAHILERA MO NA SIYA

        THAT IS

        KUNG HINDI IKAW YAN
        .

        PITIFUL

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “PAPANO KA MAGKAKAROON NG DIVORCE

        KUNG FAKE MARRIAGE?”

        A fake marriage is when you get married at Church to make an oath and promise to your spouse in the presence of many witness and your God that would be upheld for the entirety of your lives, but then several years later falls short of expectations and is broken.  That’s a fake marriage.

        txtman, If you’re cheating on your wife with other women, you’re living a fake marriage.  If your wife is engaging in sexual immorality with other guys in your neighborhood or her co-workers, you’re living a fake marriage.

        Divorce is an option for ending fake marriages.

      • txtman

        AGAIN

        BASAHIN MO KASI NG BUO ANG BIBLIA

        HEBREW 10:26-28

         ” IF WE DELIBERATELY KEEP ON SINING AFTER WE HAVE RECEIVED THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH, NO SACRIFICE FOR THE SINS IS LEFT BUT ONLY A FEARFUL EXPECTATIONS OF JUDGEMENT AND RAGING FIRE THAT WILL CONSUME THE ENEMIES OF GOD”. ANYONE WHO REJECTED THE LAW OF MOISES DIED WITHOUT MERCY ON THE TESTIMONY OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES.”

        ANO ULIT SINABI NG BIBLIA

        THAT PASSAGES PERTAIN TO COMMITING CRIMES AND SINS.

        THERE IS NOTHING TO DO WITH DIVORCE.

        ******* ANG PEKENG PROPETA NGA NAMAN
               PARANG TOTOO SINASABI PERO PURO PANLILINLANG
               NAMAN ANG GINAGAWA.

        ******* YOU DON’T EVEN BELIEVE IN GOD, NGAYON
              GAGAMITIN MO ANG BIBLE?

        ******* ANO SABI ULIT NG BIBLIA?

        MASKI SI SATANAS AY MAGSASALITA NG MGA GALING SA BIBLIA
               PARA MAKAPAGLILANG NG TAO AT MADAMI ANG MANINIWALA
               SA KANYA.

        ****** DO I NEED TO SAY KUNG SINO KA?

        PITIFUL

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “THAT PASSAGES PERTAINS TO COMMITING CRIMES AND SINS. THERE IS NOTHING TO DO WITH DIVORCE.”

        Exactly.  It has nothing to do with Divorce so why are you wasting your time with this useless passage txtman?

        Let us educate you again where your bible teaches you how Divorce may be approved:

        PLEASE READ MATHEW 19:9:

        Jesus says: And I tell you this, whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery–unless his wife has been unfaithful.”

        Jesus is not saying that Divorce is illegal.  Jesus is saying that Divorce is wrong if your spouse has been faithful.  However, if your spouse WAS UNFAITHFUL, then DIVORCE is okay.

        Can you understand this passage of English txtman?

        First you denied Moses and his laws. But don’t deny Jesus txtman, you will lose against the one you rely on to attain your salvation.

      • txtman

        HUH?

        SINO BA ANG UNANG NAGBANGGIT SA HEBREW?

        HINDI BA IKAW?

        PITIFUL
        .
        .

        READ MATHEW?
        .
        .

        AGAIN ANG SAGOT KO SA IYO
             PROPETANG FAKE
        .

        READ MATHEW 19 ENTIRELY
        .
        .

        MOST IMPORTANTLY

        READ MATHEW 19: 4-6
        .
        .
        .
        SIMPLENG ENGLISH YUN

        .
        .
        .
        AGAIN, MASKI SI SATANAS KUKUHA NG MGA
             PASSAGES SA BIBLE PARA LANG MANLILANG

        AT TAKE NOTE HA

        MADAMI ANG MALILINLANG
        .
        .

        DAMI-DAMI MO NA NGA FOLLOWERS DITO EH
        .
        .
        ISA NA SI VIAGRA BELMONTE
        .
        .

        MALIWANAG PA SA SIKAT NG ARAW

        KUNG ANO KA

        HERE YOU ARE, WHO EVEN DON’T BELIEVE IN GOD

        TRYING TO QUOTE THE BIBLE?

        .
        .

        KAKAIBA KA NGA LANG

        KASI

        MASKI SI SATANAS

        NANINIWALA SA EXISTENCE NI GOD

        PITIFUL

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “HERE YOU ARE, WHO EVEN DON’T BELIEVE IN GOD”

        Nobody has to believe in your God to understand English txtman.  Your bible has been interpreted in English in several different versions….it’s not that hard to read and comprehend that Jesus does not say Divorce is illegal in your bible.  Jesus says Divorce is okay under circumstances of Unfaithfulness:

        Do you know English well txtman?  Or are you limited in this regard?  Let’s try this again, and see if your English teachers in the Philippines were any good:

        “And I tell you this, whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery–unless his wife has been unfaithful.”

        - MATHEW 19:9

      • txtman

        READ MATHEW 19: 4-6

        ANO SABI NI JESUS?

        HINDI SINABI NI JESUS NA OK
           ANG DIVORCE

        SINABI NIYA

        NA DAPAT SUNDIN ANG UTOS NI
              GOD, THE CREATOR AT YAN
              AY ANG MATHEW 19:4-6

        YANG SINASABI MO

        INULIT LANG NI JESUS ANG SINABI NI
            MOISES

        AT ANG DAHILAN KUNG BAKIT GINAWA NI MOISES

        ANO ULIT ANG DAHILAN?

        KASI DAW, MAPILIT ANG MGA TAONG
             MAKAKATI

        NGAYON

        MALIWANAG PA SA SIKAT NG ARAW

        NA SINABI NA

        MASSUSUNDIN ANG UTOS NI GOD.
        .
        .

        ISIPIN MO ITO

        ANO ANG MASMABIGAT

        BATAS NG TAO

        OR

        BATAS NG DIYOS
        .
        .
        .
        GANITO LANG YUN PROPETANG FAKE

        SA BATAS NG TAO

        ANG CONSTITUTION ANG
           NANGNGIBABAW KAYSA

        ISANG ORDINANSA NG ISANG CITY

        PITIFUL

      • PurpleDaisy13

        txtman, it appears you don’t understand English very well.  It is said that visual aid helps people with English comprehension problems.  Hopefully, this will help you comprehend the English sentences in your bible more properly:

        Matthew 19:9:

        Jesus says: “And I tell you this, whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery–unless his wife has been unfaithful.”

        unless his wife has been unfaithful

        unless his wife has been unfaithful

        unless his wife has been unfaithful

        unless his wife has been unfaithful

        Matthew 19:9:

        Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard.

        Moses permitted you to divorce

        Moses permitted you to divorce

        Moses permitted you to divorce

        Moses permitted you to divorce

        Moses permitted you to divorce

        Moses permitted you to divorce

        When Moses, Son of God, permits DIVORCE, it means DIVORCE is LEGAL according to the bible.

        When Moses, Son of God, permits DIVORCE, it means DIVORCE is LEGAL according to the bible.

        When Moses, Son of God, permits DIVORCE, it means DIVORCE is LEGAL according to the bible.

        When Moses, Son of God, permits DIVORCE, it means DIVORCE is LEGAL according to the bible.

  • http://poshhub.com/ Phone Source

    Speaker Feliciano Belmonte needs to get with the present time in which we are living. His proposal is unacceptable.  

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H4PIIBVQK4BSXMIKFRWWAAQAUY Heartrob ng Pugad Baboy

      Funniest comment ever.

    • yesyesyo

      Labo mo

    • Luthmar

      You must be an extremely happy married (if you are) person.  Good for you.  But what about those battered women, with plenty of children?  Husbands just leave them behind for another woman(women).  At least with a divorce, wives are protected.  Men will have
      to pay alimony.  That is fair.  Wives can move on.  They can live normal lives.  As against being abandoned, how would they care for the children.  

  • aristeosj

    if there is one ‘value system’ (if you can call it ‘value’ at all)
    that needs total makeover is the kanya-kanya,tayo-tayo
    system of the traditional politicians in and out of congress.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AIPSCQM2TZQUMQ5GEIMWMWDFL4 Edward Solilap

    Paano matuloy ang Devorce Bill e daming Politico ang TAKOSA

  • yesyesyo

    As usual the philippines is left in the dark ages. the only country in the world without divorce.

    If children are exposed everyday to fightings, wranglings, shouting bouts, and physical violence of their parents, they have the higher probability of becoming violent persons themselves.

    I would be more worried for children exposed in a hostile environment like that compared to children who are in the care of a guardian in a peaceful environment. The guardian could be one of the parents, or the grandparents, or closest relatives.

    Divorce makes sense.

    • superpilipinas

      The answer to hostile child environment is better child protection laws, but not divorce. Divorce frees the parents but breaks up families and children suffer from the break-up. Most juveniles are products of divorced parents.

      If divorce makes sense, then abortion, incest, and other selfish acts should make sense too. he-he-he.

      Merry Free Condoms and A Happy New Sex Partner!

      • yesyesyo

        You are so fond of generalizations. I very glaring fallacy that makes your point so weak. You make no sense at all.

        Tell me how will you protect a child from an abusive parent, mother or father. You either get the child or the abusive parent out of the house. The best child protection laws can not protect a child inside the house where the parents reign supreme.

      • superpilipinas

        Is that the only way to protect children. See this is the problem. People think of negative reactive/corrective instead of positive proactive/preventive. Think! Use your intelligence a little more. 

      • yesyesyo

        Answer the simple question. Be specific. Dont give me that crap on child protection laws. the government is not inside your house every minute.

        How will you protect children from abusive parents. How would you protect wives from abusive husbands who have no more love for each other.

      • Diepor

        You can’t use reason on a brainwashed person..

      • txtman

        YES!

        LEGALIZED NA LAHAT

        FREEDOM MGA KIDS

        S
        E
        X

        S
        E
        X

        S
        E
        X

        GO

        GO

        GO

        AHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHI

        PITIFUL

      • Diepor

        O my god you are intolerant,uneducated and narrow minded. It’s so stupid I can only laugh.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UR6AKMU2J2D4GOPDU4QMRZDB7Q felipe

     PH moving  forward at last……………

  • Sugbuanon86

    Kababayan, let us support anything na pang-asar sa mga prayle!

    This is the least we can do to make the Roman Catholic Cult answerable for their transgressions against the Filipino people!

    They must pay for the centuries of institutionalized brainwashing to the masses.

    Kaya mga mang-mang at ignorante ang mga tao, kasi sa mga kalokohang ipinag-kakalat ng kultong ito!

    Divorce bill?  Why not?

    Abortion bill?  Something to look into.  Women should be given the right to determine what they want to do with their own body.

    We support you, Mr. Speaker!

    • disqus_ZrxaGjUzMQ

      FINALLY  FILIPINO CHRISTIANS   ARE NOW  CRUSHING THE NO BRAINER CATHOLICS  POWER LITTLE BY LITTLE  –    NEXT BILL IS   YES ON GAY MARRIAGE

      CRUSH THE CATHOLICS
      CRUSH THEM ALL

      • txtman

        CHRISTIANS = FREE SEX

        YAN BA GINAGAWA NINYO

        SA MGA PAGTITIPON NINYO

        O
        R
        G
        Y

        AHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHI

        PITIFUL

    • Rigoberto_Tigdas

      I am all the way for the divorce bill, but that’s as far as I can go.

      Abortion bill? No Way! Not in a million years.

      And sorry to all the gays and lesbians for spoiling the party, but I could not, and will not stomach same sex marriage.

      • Nathanael Espino

        No same sex marriages in your churches? Gladly. Before a judge’s sala? HELLS TO THE YES. 

    • Paranaque City

      That’s right, push all the bills that will support immorality in all aspects in the Philippines, and see how we’re all going to progress. Good luck to all of you.

      • TeabagDeluxe

        Have you taken a look at the most progressive countries in the world? They all have divorce laws, so your “push all the bills that will support immorality in all aspects in the Philippines, and see how we’re all going to progress” argument is invalid.

      • redpula

        we can’t blame you for being archaic and passe’, immorality is all over the place even without the divorce bill so what immorality are you looking for when they are right under your noses.

  • FORTHE GOOD

    The headline is effective in jolting people out of their boring and monotonic day. But the catch is on the 3rd paragraph when it said that belmonte admitted that divorce bill will have to wait, for now.

    Nevertheless, it would be good to start the debate.

    I for one is in favor of divorce. I grew up watching my parents quarrel oftentimes. not a week would pass without a big fight. I can not forget shivering in fear everytime I hear my father’s booming voice as me and my 2 siblings stay still in the adjoining room. I was the eldest son. Looking back, I can just imagine how scared my younger brother and sister could have been.

    I dont want other kids to experience that. With that kind of environment growing up, no wonder I have psychological issues that I now live with. My sister has her own issues. The worst effect is on our youngest… sad what happened to him. our family carries the burden everyday.

    • filipinaskoh

      I don’t know if it is good or bad.

      • yesyesyo

        One reason husbands abuse their wife is because they know the wife depends on him and can not go anywhere. Magtiis at mag martir. This is called economic abuse.

        In a divorce, one provision of the law will mandate that the guilty party shall support the other party until the latter can stand on her own. There are also provisions on the welfare of children.

  • RONNIE858

    bigyan naman natin ang mamamayan na pagpagsiya kung ano ang gusto nila. Bills approved are just options, yan ay tinatawag na tools, you may or may not follow them depending on your needs. They may or may not work for you, guidance lang naman yan eh. Lahat ng tao ay mayroon pa ring right,  to do what is right for them.

    • Luthmar

      You are right.  The Rules in the Phil., for example, Traffic Rules.  A lot of people do not
      follow them.  Because for them they are just suggestions.  OK lang if you follow them pero mas OK yung hindi sinusunod.   Only in da Phil.

      • RONNIE858

        Hehe, ang layo, yung talong nagbunga ng kamatis. lumihis bigla.

  • Hey_Dudes

    Sige hangang hindi tumitino ang mga obispo sa bansa, isunod ng lahat ang mga bagay na matagal na nilang tinututulan.  Pagkatapos ng divorce law, isunod ang capital punishment.  Pag hindi nasira ang mga ulo niyan.

  • GOPHILIPPINESGO

    Kung malamig na ang relasyon, worse, kung wala nang pagmamahal at respeto, dapat hindi ipagkait na maging isang option ang divorce. walang magandang maidudulot sa mga bata ang isang tahanan na palaging magulo, sigawan o walang imikan, isnaban, insultohan, at patayugan ng pride.

    Meron kasing mga mag asawa na immature nang magpakasal o kaya biglaan dahil nabuntis ang babae. Karamihan sa mga ganitong pagsasama ang nagiging magulo at hindi conducive sa pagpapalaki ng mga matitinong bata.

    Dapat lang na pag-usapan ang isyu ng divorce. Panahon na!

  • filipinaskoh

    I am neither PRO nor ANTI divorce- I’ll just wait which one will benefit our country and our country men the most. Anyway that will go through a rigid debates and discussions.

  • http://twitter.com/wetwidewild wetwidewild

     I am not against divorce, I am not for it either.
     let just abolish marriage, go back to jungle.

    • yesyesyo

       You are just thinking of the husband and wife. You dont consider the effect to children of violent and abusive environment.

  • http://twitter.com/wetwidewild wetwidewild

    focus on negative side of marriage is wrong.
    after long day waiting, that half hour happiness worthy the quarrelling.
    there is no free and perfect world.

  • anu12345

    Mas grabe pa nga ang setup sa atin. Annulment.  Parang walang nangyaring kasal.

  • http://twitter.com/wetwidewild wetwidewild

    divorce that beer, instead of wife.

  • sidewalkbenhur

    magkaroon sana nang referendum tungkol ditto…

  • http://twitter.com/wetwidewild wetwidewild

    hypocrite super ball Filipinos strike again.
    this time for good of Filipinas, give you a freedom of divorce so I don’t have to do it myself. 

  • disqus_ZrxaGjUzMQ

    Thank you — Yes on Divorce Law  and Yes on Gay Marriage  soon in the PHILIPPINE

    Lets all CHRISTIAN  CRUSH THE CATHOLIC POWER 

    • Diepor

      Uneducated and stupid

    • Rigoberto_Tigdas

      Sorry mr dt, I’m with u on Divorce, but not on same sex marriage. Line has to be drawn.

      • Nathanael Espino

        Have a sarcasm meter, yours appears to be broken

  • dadiseedy

    tama..divorce law…paano nmn pag ang mag asawa ay magkalayo dahil sa ang isa sa kanila ay na nag-abroad at pinili nila na magkalayo muna habang kinakayod ang pakay..halimbawa ang pagpapaaral sa kanila ng mga anak….nangyayari ito..minsan di umuuwi ang nag abroad…kasama ba sa dahilan ang matagal na magkahiwalay kahit mmaganda ang dahilan..

  • ddano

    FREEDOM OF INFORMATION BILL  at  ANTI-DYNASTY LAW MUNA !

    • txtman

      KAW NAMAN

      PAMIGAY MUNA MGA CONDOMS

      EXCITED NA MGA KABATAAN

      GO

      GO

      GO

      SEX FREEDOM KIDS

      AS LONG AS HINDI KAYO MABUBUNTIS

      WAG KAYONG MAG-ALALA

      WALANG MAGAGAWA MGA MAGULANG NINYO

      MAY PROTECTION KAYO SA BATAS RH

      AHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHI

      PWEDE DIN KAYO MAGPAABORT PAGNABUNTIS KAYO

      SABI NG BATAS RH

      LIBRE LAHAT NG GAMOT NINYO

      GO

      GO

      GO KIDS

      SABI NGA NG RH BILL

      HAVE THE GREATEST SEX OF YOUR LIFE

      PITIFUL

      • johndcross1

        Txtman stop shouting!

  • cute79

    ok yan mr belmonte.daming babae binubogbog ng kanilang mga asawa pero walang mgwa kasi masyong mahal ang annulment at npakatagal ng proseso.ang annulmetn ay pang may pera lang di afford ng mga mhihirap.kaya sang-ayon ako sa divorce sa pinas.Pero sana epriority nyo muna ipasa ang FOI bago ang divorce.

    • yesyesyo

      Correct. The rich can afford annulment and even go to the vatican like the celebrities who married again. 

      The divorce law would also benefit more the poor abused women and children.

  • UrHONOR

    OO nga naman, huwag naman kaagad ang divorce…..baka sabay-sabay atakihin sa corazon ang mga “warriors” na nakasayg-puti, e, katatapos pa lamang ng all-out war I nila.  Saka na muna yong all-out war II pag nakapahinga na sila…at nakapag-kape na’t Rosario. At saka na din yong pagbayarin ng taxes ang mga TNL na yan na puro pakinabang na lang ang gusto…ayaw naman  makisali sa pagbayad ng gastusin ng bayan….kabig-na-lang-ng-kabig.

    • kalikasanipagtanggol

      sa mga dugong berde ba may divorce din? o naka ilang divorce ka na ba? wag ka ng mag-asawa gawin mo na lang yung dati na patikim tikim ng iba’t ibang haba ng vienna sausages….subukan mo mga afrikano dahil magkakulay lang naman ang papasukan nun….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XWH5SD6XPM3XKND6PJQQ32ZRAU Mabuhay

    ok yan….about d children madali lang yan……kung may mga anak d youngest should be at least 18 yrs old at d tym of d filing of divorce…..that is RP style divorce…..we can make a lot of variations in d law dat will suit us….

  • brunogiordano

    “When one or both spouses are psychologically incapacitated to comply with the essential marital obligations,” he or she could also file for divorce. Any of the existing grounds for legal separation that has caused “irreparable breakdown of marriage” could also be a ground.

    Sexual dysfunction sanhi ng indoctrination ng kinasasapian religion ay kailangan isa sa ground for divorce.

  • Bengatibo

    Ang husay nang mga Media to fan up with controversial issues like divorce law in order to catch the attention of the reading public. Maraming tao na ang mag-uumpisa nang mag-debate tungkol sa isyung iyan!!! 

    • txtman

      HINDI BA ANAK NI LOLO BELMONTE Y MAHILIG

      SI ARA ?

      HHHHMMMMMMMMMMM

      NO WONDER

      LIKE FATHER LIKE DAUGTHER

      AHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHI

      MAHILIG NG EHEM?

      PAIBA-IBA  NG KAKAN  2 -  EHEM BA?

      AHHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIH

      .
      .
      .

      KAYA SABI NI LOLO BELMOTE Y MAHILIG

      GAWIN LEGAL NA YAN

      PAIBA-IBA

      AT

      KILITI Y MAKATI

      PARA HINDI NA SILA PAG-USAPAN PA

      AHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHI

      GAWING NORMAL ANG GAWAIN DAW NILA

      AYOS

      AHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHI’

      PITIFUL

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HRLYOTKSEJVZUKBKTG5T5NLDCY Kim

         Hahaha, ayusin mo buhay mo Bro. Si Ara hindi anak ni Belmonte.

      • txtman

        HINDI BA?

        OOOHHHSSSSSSSS KA DYAN

        KA- BITBIT?

        AHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHI

        PITIFUL

      • Don Dee

        Tanga! Anak ni Mathay si Ara Mina. Bobo.

  • pcosmachine

    In my opinion, this bill will easily pass in both the House and the Senate.

    If this Divorce Bill is passed in the future, it will be another slap on the faces of the Catholic bishops (which is good).

    This bill should be passed to enable couples with irreconcilable differences to move on with their lives.

    • http://mikkieugenio.tumblr.com/ Paul Eugenio

      Oo naman. Madaming diborsiyadong congressmen at senador eh. HAHAHAHA!

  • txtman

    >>>>>>>>> LOLO BELMONTE <<<<<<<<

    ANONG CONDOM SIZES BA AVAILABLE SA CENTER?

    # MAGNUM

    # LARGE

    # MEDIUM

    # SMALL

    # TINY

    AHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHI

    KAILAN BA IPAMIMIGAY YAN?

    EXCITED NA MGA KABATAAN

    KARAPATAN NINYO YAN MGA KIDS

    TO HAVE THE GREATEST SEX OF YOUR LIFE WHILE YOUNG

    GO

    GO

    GO

    WAG GAYAHIN SI LOLO BELMONTE

    MASKI VIAGRA

    WA EPEK NA

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    .
    .

    HAPPY MGA MOTELS NYAN

    HAPPY DIN MGA PROSTI

    AHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHI

    PITIFUL

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BV6DWTSUHKJGFANJJ5P3WPPTQM Paul

       anak: tay, penge ng condom.
      tay: ito anak, P20, bili ka sa tindahan o punta ka sa center, libre un.

    • suburbanmother

      Txtman, for you, if I would dare to guess based on your brain you probably need a  # TINY…Merry christmas!

  • ManongOsang

    The ONLY COUNTRY STILL WITHOUT DIVORCE!!!! … The Philippines !!!! ( other than the Vatican City)

    Even the old Bastions of Catholicism.. ITALY, IRELAND, SPAIN, POLAND, COLUMBIA, MALTA, ARGENTINA, MEXICO, etc etc…

    Countries with HIGHER, MUCH HIGHER Percentage of Catholics ALL Have DIVORCE !!!!

    EVERY FILIPINO, Rich or Poor, Educated or Non-Educated, from Manila or the Province, Pinoy or Tsinoy, …EVERY FILIPINO Adult KNOWS of a  FRIEND, RELATIVE, ACQUAINTANCE, SIBLING, CO-WORKER who has BEEN SEPARATED from his or her spouse of !!!! In most cases, for many years!!!

    95% of Filipino adults have heard of a Friend, Relative, Neighbor, Old Classmate, Co-worker who HAS  A HUSBAND who repeatedly commits adultery in a marriage.

    Most Filipinos RICH or POOR knows of someone who has FOUND  a New Lifetime Partner after YEARS of an UNHAPPY Marriage- YET, they CANNOT GET MARRIED because their is NO DIVORCE & they cannot afford to pay for Annulment!!!

    TAMA NA!!!!  It is TIME for ALL these PRIESTS, ALL MEN who have NEVER BEEN MARRIED, NEVER HAD a FAMILY, NEVER HAD a Spouse… TO STOP DICTATING to MILLIONS upon  MILLIONS of people WHO are EITHER STUCK in a VERY BAD, UNHAPPY MARRIAGE or Worse, have MOVED ON for years with a Live in partner after a Failed marriage.

     

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SISIRAAN NA NG ULO SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE DI NILA ALAM TAYO NALANG SA BUONG MUNDO ANG WALANG DEVORCE!! PAANO NGA NAMAN ANG MAG ASAWANG MAY KANYA KANYA NA PAMILYA AT GUS2 MAKASAL ULIT DUN SA KINAKASAMA NILA!!!

  • Mattino2011

    I also agree, instead of two people living in hell and possibility of killing each other…Why not give chance for them to remarry… The annulment option is way to expensive and almost exclusive for the rich and celebrities

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/53Q34PZZZEYEXDUHIA6VA72HNM karenina

      or make the annulment option less expensive. it could be a faster route…

  • Betz Chui

    RH Bill – passed..yehey!!!
    FOI Bill- malapit na….likely first quarter next year..
    Divorce Bill – naka file na… ipasa na sa first reading..next year.
    Same Sex Marriage…dapat meron nang mag file…para tuluyang ng mag titilili ang mga Bishops hehehe.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUDXSLGDJSVES3MAZKXXMXJXXM Ratzkey

    Bakit ayaw ni Pader ng divorce samantalang pag may divorce maraming ikakasal ulit di jackpot maraming pera sa simbahan. At tsaka maraming handaan si Pader nandun sa espesyal na mesa kung saan masasarap ang hinahanda para sa kanya. :)

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BV6DWTSUHKJGFANJJ5P3WPPTQM Paul

       once divorced, no remarriage can be done.

  • kilawon(the return)

     dont u just love annoying this catholic usurper ? they’ve been here for centuries and enslave us with their religious bigotry !….now its the time to break away  from this hypocrites and let REASON not punishment from the gods should prevail in our land1…..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7T2BPPGLG457K5BUPQBPOKDPA4 Marlon

    the rest of the world has a divorce law.

    it is time for the Philippines to wake up from Damaso fantasy and join the real world.

    DIVORCE BILL, NEXT NA!!!

    • txtman

      GAWIN MO

      MAGLAKBAY KA MUNA SA IBANG BANSA

      PARA MATIGNAN MO

      KUNG ANONG KLASENG

      FAMILY RELATIONS SILA MERON
      .
      .

      YOU SHOULD BE THANKFUL

      YOU ARE LIVING AND BORN IN THE PHILIPPINES

      PITIFUL

      • frudo

        wag na maglakbay sa Pinas mag ikot at tignan mo kung ano rin klaseng family meron ang ang ilan   sa mga Pinoy, babae na iniwan ng asawang lalaki ng hindi na nagbigay ng suporta sa mga anak, babae na lagi ginugulpi ng asawang lalaki, na adik or lasengo, araw araw nag mumurahan at nagaaway, 

      • http://twitter.com/akongednamzug akongednamzug

        Ayan ka na naman, feeling intelligent ka na naman. Pare-pareho lang yan.  Kung anong iba’t ibang klase ng pamilya mayroon sa Pilipinas, mayroon din sa US, England at iba pa.       

    • Jeremiah_CheGuevara

       GO GO MARLON – DO WHAT YOUR PREVERTED IMAGINATION TELLS YOU TO DO – WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT BEFORE YOU DIE?

    • xrisp

      Let me just ak you if you are a Christian. If so, could you tell me please what God tells of divorce?

  • rickysgreyes

    Congress should prioritize economic related bills first like amendment of economic provisions of the Constitution, fiscal incentives rationalization, etc. before the Divorce bill. Let’s address poverty issues first.

    • $29897073

      these are some factors that cause poverty in the Philippines – overpopulation,,, kaya okay lang unti unti. Isunod na rin ang Divorce law at ng makatakas na ating mga kapatid na babae sa mga halimaw nilang asawa,,, na ang alam lang ay anakan ng anakan si ate tapos biglang iiwan,, tapos ganoon din ang gagawin sa bagong asawa… Tama lang na magkaroon ng divorce law,,,, Tapos isunod na rin ang mga batas para bigyan ng alimony ang mga tinakbuan na pamilya – na wala naman ginagawa ang simbahan tungkol dito sa issyung ito,,, and so on and so forth!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Congress can multitask.

      • xrisp

        True and self-interest is on top of the list.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        You know what?  I don’t even recall what this is in reply to, but knowing you it’s something unrelated that doesn’t actually answer anything.

        So I’ll just say that whatever happens, your views will be seen as outdated and reprehensible in a century or so of time, and humanity will have moved on from your myopic views.

      • xrisp

        Humanity will move where? – On? Yes, on to its total self degradation and destruction. How can you say I have an oudated view when Im involving what God wants for humanity in what I wish for this country.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        You have an outdated view because you have displayed ignorance consistently, and a willingness to prioritize superstition over logic.

        I’m just going to say that I hope you have the honor to stand up and admit you’re wrong when this bill DOESN’T end in humanity’s ‘total self degradation and destruction’.

        Oh, and also?  You lost, hahahaa

  • turbogirl9

    RH BILL
    DIVORCE BILL
    GAY BILL
    DYNASTY POLITICIAN BILL
    DOMINANT BILL
    DICTATOR BILL
    GREEDY BILL
    hilary BILL clinger

    WATER BILL
    ELECTRIC BILL
    Etc.,

    • http://twitter.com/akongednamzug akongednamzug

      Yung bilbil mo, nakalimutan mo banggitin.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/H4INAGLB7BOCJ4EVP3ZWJQRQ74 itsumo

    I support the RH bill cause there’s no impact on life, I mean no hurt feelings done.

    But I opposed the divorce bill  which I think this will ruin the family and future of a child. look after those shooting incidence in the US most of the suspects are product from a divorce parents.

    • d2yan

      Once you supported a CONTRACEPTIVE MENTALITY, there is NO TURNING BACK…After divorce, same sex and abortion will come next.  Contraception will RELAX the opposition to divorce, abortion and same sex.  That is what the ANTIS are saying since the beginning… 

      Pray that what you did, you wont regret….

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      No, many of the shooting incidents are due to both individual mental illnesses and easy availability of firearms.

      The rest of the world has divorce laws, but not too many shootings.

  • vince

     contraceptives mentality talaga ang isip ng  mga kampon ni abnoy…  divorce   law  na ang balak nilang isunod…walang kwenta…

    • Bonifacio33

      Ikaw ang walang kwenta, gag0ng katoliko!

      Manang mana ka sa manyakis at pedophile ninyong mga pari

      • xrisp

        Let me just ak you if you are a Christian. If so, could you tell me please what God tells of divorce?

      • frudo

        at ikaw Chistian ka ba? sige tanungan ba kung Chirstiano or hindi  prove mo nga sakin kung Christian ka nga ba paano ka naging Christian?

      • xrisp

        Oh yes brod frudo. 100% Christian and Im very proud to say that Im a Catholic.

      • frudo

        ang Dios Ama ayaw ng mga dios diosan at di rin tinuro ni Kristo ang pagdarasal ng paulit ulit, di rin tinuro ang pagrorosaryo at lalong di rin tinuro ang infant baptism at purgatoryo,,, bakit di mo examine muna kung Christian ka ba tlga bago mo kami tanungin kung Christan kami,

      • xrisp

        saan ba kayo nanggaling brod…di ba isa lang kayo sa 30000 mahigit na nagsulputang sekta…bago feeling nyo kayo ang may TUNAY lang na alam sa binabasa nyo…siguro gumising na lang muna kayo sa bangungot na yan….may oras pa….

      • frudo

        Kaw kaya gumising kasi ikaw ang tulog pa nakalaya nako sa mga pangaalipin ng relihiyon eh ikaw hindi pa kaya gumising ka habang may oras pa. Mga sumasamba sa dios diosan ayaw ng Dios tandaan mo yan.

      • xrisp

        Imulat nyo mga kapatid ang mga mata nyo na ang tunay na relihiyon na itinatag ni Kristo ay ang simbahang Katoliko. Sige nga kung ma itrace back nyo  ang secta nyo sa mga apostoles. Eh 20th century lang ata kayo nabuo di nyo pa masabi name man lang ng grupo nyo at ang lider nyo.

      • frudo

        tanong ka ng tanong kung Christiano ang isang tao tapos ikaw pala tong hnidi Christiano,  at hindi sumusunod sa kagustuhang ng Dios,  exodus 20 malinaw na malinaw dun na galit ang Dios sa mga dios diosan na ginawa ng tao pinagbawal nya ang tao na magkaroon nito, malinaw yan pero dahil nga sarado ang isip mo di mo maiintindihan, sana bigyan ka Dios na buhay ng tamang pangunawa dito, sorry kung nasakatan kita wala ako balak makipag away sa inyo dito,God bless 

    • http://twitter.com/robustgrowth robustgrowth

       ano ba ang wlang kwenta sa impowerment na mahihirap at kababaihan?contraceptives ay kailangan para mabawasan ang mga kriminal sa bayan

      • xrisp

        Let me just ak you if you are a Christian. If so, could you tell me please what God tells of divorce?

  • dickenhead

    how about taxation for the church businesess & properties? we are taxing the ordinary low income groups why not the meddlesome church?  

  • mabyrik

    Belmonte, please not Divorce Law, not yet. Please prioritize your work.
    The next MOST IMPORTANT BILL you have to tackle is not divorce law BUT TAXES OF CHURCH.
    It’s time to tax them. When they accuse the president of bribery without any proof  in influencing the congressment, they are inviting the state to tax them. 
    The time to tax the church is ripe and it must begin from congress.
    Tax them!!!

  • Jeremiah_CheGuevara

    Bring them on ABNOY AND BELMONTE AND ROXAS – all the immoralities and vices in the land (THE SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF THE MOTHER RH BILL prostitution.abortions/pedophiles/gay marriages/sodomy and all the scum practices of the earth etc) and leave your trails and entrails behind you for the Filipinos to remember that there once ruled in our land the worst triumvirate of filipino brains ever. 

    • Jeremiah_CheGuevara

       Do it before you die Belmonte – be Abnoy’s aging shining pimp!

      • $29897073

        Banal na aso, santong kabayo,,,, nandidiri ako

      • xrisp

        Let me just ak you if you are a Christian. If so, could you tell me please what God tells of divorce?

  • d2yan

    Talagang sisirain natin ang bansa natin…

    Pagkatapos ng RH…divorce.  Pagkatapos ng divorce….abortion at same sex SIGURADO..

    Tama na naman ang mga ANTIS.  Ini-isa-isa lang tayo…at marami na naman ang nagpapa-uto.

    WALANG MANLOLOKO KUNG WALANG NAGPAPALOKO…

    • frudo

      ano masama sa divorce bill  sige nga ask ko lang? biro u tayo lang pala sa mundo ang walang divorce bill, ano meron tyo annulment na sino lang ang nakikinabang mayayaman at mga artista, sana nga tuluyan na tyo makalaya sa mapag alipin relihiyon na hindi nman tyo natulungan para maging maunlad na bansa,

      • xrisp

        Very few now really could stand for …”…for the SAKE OF GOD…” You and so many of your like will always say…” …for the SAKE OF MAN…”  People are really hypocrites. They can readily say they love God but they easily defy God just to satisfy every human desires.

      • frudo

        at ikaw hindi ka ba hipokrito? kung tlganga ayaw nyo sa divorce bill bakit annulment di nyo matutulan, may asawa ka na ba? naranasan mo na ba magpamilya? sige walang divorce bill pero wala rin annulment para fair!  lakas ng loob mo mang husga ng pagiging hipokrito ng isang tao bakit di mo muna chek sarili mo kung hindi ka nga ba hipokrito rin.

      • xrisp

        Tama ka hipokrito din ako kasi makasalanan ako kaya lagi ako umaasa sa AWA ng DIOS.

        Sino ba ang nagsabatas at magsasabatas ng annulment na sinasabi mo at ngayon ang RHB? Ang simbahan ba? o ang gobyerno? Saka pumunta ka sa pari at magpapaliwanag ka tungkol sa ano lang ang puede sa annulment para di kayo comment ng comment ng di nyo kumpletonng naiintindihan ang pinagsasabi nyo.

      • frudo

        yun nmanpala eh hipokrito ka rin pala at makasalanan eh bakit mo tutulan ang divorce bill para ano?  lahat ba ng tao sa Pinas kapareho ng paniniwala mo? or pananampalataya,so bakit nyo tutulan ang batas na pwedeng pagpliian ng ibang tao na maaaring applicable sa kanilang buhay? choice naman to diba bilang democrasyang bansa tayo? hindi lahat ng tao sa Pinas katoliko kaya wag nman kayo maghari harian para bang sa tingin nyo kayo lang ang tama at ang iba mali na kaya malinaw na disriminasyon, di ko na kailangan pumunta pa sa pari, maliwanag na sakin na may mga pera lang ang pede magpa annul, 

      • xrisp

        Kaya nga dahil tayo ay makasalanan dapat lagi tayo hihingi ng awa sa Dios. At dapat kilalanin nating maigi ang Diyos. Yan ang loving God with all our mind. At pag nakilala natin ang Dios, dahan dahan Niyang pagliliwanagin ang ating isipan lalo na kung tayo ay makikita Nyang  nagsusumukap na lumapit sa Kanya. At. siguradong kung ano ang ayaw Nya ay ipapaunawa sa iyo. Divorce? Ayaw Nya nyan

      • frudo

        hindi mo nakukuha ang point  ang point dito hindi mo pde ipilit ang paniniwala mo sa pag papapsa ng batas sa Pinas kasi nga hindi lahat ng Pinoy kagaya ng paniniwala mo at paninidigan mo, kung makipag divorce man ang iba di ikaw ang mananagot yung nagpadivorce ano ang problema mo dun, choice ng tao yun bilang demokrasyang bansa tyo,  bakit di mo masagot ang tanong ko kung may asawa ka na siguro pari ka kaya ka ganyan?

      • xrisp

        Ganun pala na di puede ipilit ang paniniwala , bakit sagot ka ng sagot sa kung sino sino dito nag popost at pinagwawagayway mo rin ang kaalaman mo?

      • frudo

        eh demokrasyang bansa nga tayo eh malaya tyo magpahayag ng opinion natin eh, masama ba yun, ikaw nga tanong ka ng tanong kung Christiano ang tao eh ilan beses ka nagtanong sa mga nag popost dito kung Christian sila bakit ano sa tingin mo ikaw lang ba ang Christian diba nakaa offend ka nun di mo ba naiisip yun? di ba sinabi nyo na ang divorce law ay againts sa catholic faith,  so nangatwiran ako na hindi mo pde ipilit na porket againts sa catholic faith ay di na pde ang divorce law sa Pinas dahil majority ng tao sa PInas ay Katoliko di ba maliwanag na discriminasyon yan sa paniniwala ng iba? kung pikon ka na titigil na ko, sorry kung may nasabi ako na di mo nagustuhan peace bro..

      • xrisp

        Tama ka bro, peace at Pasko na. Merry Christmas sa iyo at sa buo mong pamilya!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    SA SOBRANG PAG KA UTO UTO NG PILIPINO SATANAS CARNIVAL TAGLE TAYO NALANG SA BUONG MUNDO WALANG DIVORCE GINAWA NA TAYONG MANG MANG KAYA DI UMUNLAD ANG PILIPINAS SA MGA DAMASO!!!

  • Jeremiah_CheGuevara

    CERTIFY IT AS URGENT MR ABNOY PRESIDENT!

    • Jeremiah_CheGuevara

       Wwhat else do you want Mr. Abnoy? Pass mo na lahat at lets face your perversions!

  • regd

    Next after divorce bill, same-sex couple adopting a child bill. Creepy!

  • mekeni62

    NO, not this one.

  • moi1UK

    Why do people want to become married? Normally to make a child legitimate. Once the child is legitmate then no more need. Or to get a foriegn passport? Once a passport is obtained then no more need. To guarantee sex with a nice young person, they will get older. Or to make a person feel content and build on a foundation of mutual respect and honesty and at the same time showing a good example to the next generation. Every one wants to be somewhere or have something better, but it is all in the mind. Be content, work hard to please on both sides that’s the secret. Be satisfied with what life brings you, for better or for worse. If you are being abused physically and marrige feels like a prison where your opinion does not count, start a fight to the end. After you will enjoy having great sex, we are only animals really. Enter at your own risk, but once you have taken a bite of the fruit there is no return. Hope this helps, have a nice day.

    Trev of the UK

  • jElly_aCe

    pabor aq d2! wagna pa ipokrito, sbrang dami ng pinoy ang bsta bsta nag hihiwalay na lng at walang sustento nkukuha ang mga anakis, ang ending naiiwan ang mga bata sa poder ni nanay or ttay na halos magkanda kuba sa work pra ma sustentuhan ang skul at needs ng mga bata at ung tatay nmn ayun may new family na. unfair to both wife n d children ang kpabayaan ng responsabilidad ng another parent. panahon na pra bgyan proteksyon ang knabukasan ng mga bata. 

  • GKLer

    Divorce bill will NOT pass in Congress….because… 

    If a wife of a congressman files for divorce he will LOSE 50% of his wealth, and then he would still have to pay for support.  One thing these politicians love more than money is MORE money….so losing any of it…not gonna happen.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Sadly, that’s the best point that’s been made on the subject in this entire thread.

  • kruger

    Pay no mind to Rufus the Dufus!

    Its’ time we pass a law that allows married couples who “lost that lovin’ feelin’” to go “separate ways!”

    And the Vatican?  Leave ‘em be! 

    There has to be same-sex marriages there first before they contemplate divorce!

    • xrisp

      Let me just ak you if you are a Christian. If so, could you tell me please what God tells of divorce?

  • frudo

    cge lang tuloy u lang yang mga panukala nyo bilang mambabatas, wag kayo matakot demokrasyang bansa tyo at nasusunod ang kagustuhan ng mga nakakarami hindi ang impluensya ng mapaaliping relihiyon na umalipin na satin ng napakatagal na panahon na hindi naman nadala ang bansa nating sa pagunlad, tama na tuloy tuloy na sana tyo maging malaya, demokracy not theocracy.

  • Rap88

    Britney Spears got married to her childhood friend, Jason Alexander. The marriage lasted for 55 hrs, quick decision for a couple to decide, citing irreconcilable differences, very convenient indeed. OMG, bless our Filipino families, prayers, prayers and more prayers, or else we’re gone to the dogs.

    • http://twitter.com/Sizzle75Ian ian martinez

      The other 200 countries in the world that already have this legislation are going to the dogs too or are they advanced rich, mostly uncorrupt advanced countries adapting to reality, not religious dogma

  • http://twitter.com/robustgrowth robustgrowth

    pabor ako sa rh at divorce bill para mabawasan ang mga taong naghihirap sa bansa natin.

  • KapitanBagwis

    About time to save battered wives from bad marriage particularly from alcoholic, drug addict and womanizing husbands.

    • http://twitter.com/Sizzle75Ian ian martinez

      As someone who had a violent, unfaithful wife, I have flagged your post as very inappropriate and sexist, men are NO longer willing to be abused and mimimised like before.
      Domestic Violence – women are half the problem.

      • KapitanBagwis

        Inappropriate? Do you even know what inappropriate means? Maybe I left out the abused men but mostly the women are the abused ones.

        well it’s a two way street It goes both ways What is important is to pass the divorce law.
        KapitanBagwis Sent from my iPhone

    • xrisp

      Let me just ak you if you are a Christian. If so, could you tell me please what God tells of divorce?

      • KapitanBagwis

        The Lord is referring to all Christians when he said He abhor divorce. When a husband or a wife violate his marriage vow he or she no longer respect God’s law, he/she is no longer considered a true Christian in it’s true essence of Christianity.

        If you are a true Christian, you should know what St Paul said when you can leave your husband or your wife.
        That is the basis of the divorce law of even the most Christian countries all over the world.

        Remember what they say, “little knowledge is dangerous”

      • xrisp

        The way you explained showed that you’re the one of little knowledge. Try harder to twist what God really said about divorce. same with the others here, you’re just like a rocket short of hitting its target. Read more and return a better explanation. Im waiting ha.

      • KapitanBagwis

        Useless and pathetic response. I’m not wasting my time with you.

        KapitanBagwis Sent from my iPhone

      • xrisp

        Where did you get your kowledge about divorce? Is this your own teaching or your sect’s teaching? What is then your sect’s name?
         
         
         
         
         
         

      • KapitanBagwis

        What planet did you come from by the way?

        Don’t ask me ridiculous questions.

        Support or justify your stand why you are against divorce and then ask your Church why they approve of ANNULMENT (caps for emphasis). Hypocrites. PWE

      • xrisp

        Sundan mo lang bro ang mga post ko rito at makikita mo ang mga paliwanag ko sa annulment at divorce. Anyway, peace at pasko na. Merry Christmas sa iyo at sa buong pamilya mo brod!

      • KapitanBagwis

        I wish you and your family a joyful Christmas and a blessed and prosperous New Year
        KapitanBagwis Sent from my iPhone

      • xrisp

        Thanks brod. That’s what Christ could really bring into this world – Peace, even if we have different views in life!

      • KapitanBagwis

        Peace be with you and God bless you !

        KapitanBagwis Sent from my iPhone

  • JX Peron

    It’s time we had a divorce law in the Philippines. The bill will definitely experience rough sailing, but we always have to try. Like the RH bill, a divorce bill is what the country urgently needs — unless it enjoys being the only state, aside from the Vatican, to enjoy no divorce. Time to end hypocritical (and medieval) claims.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Eh, it isn’t, if we’re being honest, something urgent (which the RH bill certainly is), but it’s something that really should be done.

    • xrisp

      Let me just ak you if you are a Christian. If so, could you tell me please what God tells of divorce?

  • franklyn flores

    We need to know first what is in the provision.
     Jesus said, “And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, “EXCEPT FOR IMMORALITY”  and marries another woman commits adultery….. Did you see the “EXCEPT FOR IMMORALITY” provision in the bible in there? Kung gusto mo lang hiwalayan asawa mo for another reason, EXCEPT FOR IMMORALITY now that is crime.

    • xrisp

      Yes brod, the faithful should pray for this country as our lawmakers are dragging our country inch by inch to its total destruction by institutionalizing immorality. The Lord teaches us to pray and every Christian knows this….”…..THY KINGDOM COME on earth as in heaven….”  but these lawmakers are now leading this country to let the REIGN of the adversary come! 

    • http://twitter.com/Sizzle75Ian ian martinez

      That was 2000 years ago, move on!

  • zeroko

    Now, it can be said that our Filipino-Chinese government is taking the whole country for a ride. They are definitely making a mockery at the entire Filipinos and there is no exception. I was hoping that they will concentrate and fast track the Freedom of Information to promote good governance and accountability, yet, yes, he he he. Lesser bills are given priority. 

    “Ang sabe nila, kumbaga sa black jack, 21 kana, na five cards kapa. Talo ang sambayanang Pilipino.” Time is of essence. We are almost at the end of the year and the FREEDOM OF INFORMATION HAS NOT YET BECAME A LAW.” 

    This bill is paramount in all the bills waiting to become a law. It is really disappointing. I have been divorce by my wife my wife 35 years ago in the States but I can wait another year just for that. What is the most important bill EVER is the freedom of Information. I am not a lawyer, and I do not understand what 3rd reading is all about. The press says that FOI has passed the 3rd reading in the Senate, and I do not know what it means. What I remember is that during Gloria’s term, the Congressmen in the “August Chamber” he he he,  maneuvered FOI so that it can not push through because there was lack of quorum. Well, this time, the year has almost end, and I haven’t heard of the FOI becoming a law.

    What about it Chico?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      It’s a bit stupid to be making that complaint at a time when the FoI is closer than ever to being passed.  It’s through the Senate, now it just needs to get through Congress without sustaining any ridiculous amendments.  You might want to read up on what these things mean before making dumb judgments.  Based off what I’ve read and have been hearing, it should pass and be signed in to law by early next year, as the Christmas break is coming up.

      Your criticizing the government for it is just dumb, given the progress and increased awareness the bill has attained under the administration.

      Secondly, this article is an offhand comment by one congressman about something he’d LIKE to do next year.  Using this as proof that the Filipino-Chinese (nice racism, btw) is ‘taking the whole country for a ride’ is just really, really, really stupid.

  • frudo

    kung ayaw nyo ng divorce bill  di tutulan nyo rin ang annulment  bakit di nyo palagan ang annulment ano pinagkaiba, ang annulment para lang sa mga mayayaman mga artista pero sa mahihirap ano na para sa kanila? wala. 

    • xrisp

      Let me just ak you if you are a Christian. If so, could you tell me please what God tells of divorce?

      • frudo

        Read matthew chapter 19   and sino ka para tanungin ako kung Chirstiano ako? kung ayaw mo ng divorce tutulan nyo rin ang annulment  bakit annulment pde ang divorce hindi? paki sagot din yan tutal tinanong mo ko eh?

      • xrisp

        Una bakit hindi mo masabi ang nilalaman ng sinabi mong Bible book and chapter?

        Pangalawa, mahirap bang intindihin o pinipilit lang hindi intindihin brod ang tungkol sa pagkakaiba ng annulment at divorce. Hindi ako abogado pero eto lang ang sasabihin ko sa iyo: Sa annulment, sa umpisa palang ay hindi na dapat nangyari ang kasalan dahil sa mga dahilang hindi na diskubre agad. Example, sira ulo ka pala, eh naitago mo nung una pero biglang nag surface nung magkasama na kayo ng asawa mo. So in the first place, dapat walang nangyaring kasalan kasi sira ulo ka pala. Oh kailangan ko pa bang ipaliwanag naman ang sa divorce? 

      • frudo

        Jesus said “And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.” oh ayan malinaw na yan biblical ang divorce nangyayari na yan panahon pa ni Moses,  ikaw sue ka ba na Christian ka or fanatiko kalang or malamang pari ka

      • xrisp

        Hahaha frudo…relax ka lang…kung ganyan ang intindi mo nasasaiyo na yan…walang kahit anong paliwanag ang sasapat sa iyo kasi puno ang timba mo….

      • frudo

        ikaw ang kahit anong paliwanag sayo di mo maiintindihan kasi fanatiko ka sa relihiyon mo at paninwala mo, sarado utak mo sa ibang katwiran para syo ikaw lang ang tama, pinatunayan ko syo na biblical ang divorce pero naniwala ka ba hindi so sino now ang sarado utak ikaw. 

      • xrisp

        Yan ang danger sa mga nagbabasa ng Biblia na masyado nagtitiwala sa sariling kaalaman ng walang tamang guidance. Pag nag aral ka about divorce sa Bible, basahin mo at i blend ang mga sumusunod Mt5:31-32, Mt19:3-12, Mk10:2-12, 1Cor7:10-16.    Ano ang pinaka hioghlight ng mga mababasa mo dian: That marriage is an irreversible commitment lasting to death. And if anyone, for any reason including the reason you are saying, separates from his or her spouse will be gulty of adultery if he or she marries another. So that only means to say, physically you may separate but in the eyes of God, your bond, which is a spiritual bond, will last until death separates one from the other.
         
         
         
         
         
         
         

      • frudo

        para sakin hindi danger kasi  Dios ang nagbibigay ng wisdom para maintindihan ang Biblle, ang sinasabi ko lang recognised ang divorce law sa Bible,, parang ganito lang yan may divorce sa Pinas pero di ako makikipag divorce kasi ayaw ng Dios ng divorce at susunod ako sa Dios pero yung divorce batas lang sa PInas pero hindi applicable sakin, get mo na ba? so ano problema sayo ng divorce law sa Pinas, wla diba? kung magkaroon man,, 

  • droccu

    I believe that this divorce bill may not pass that easily at this time…But go ahead next year just to give the Catholic church a “token” victory after their crushing defeat with the RH Bill. Pampalubag loob….

  • bgcorg

    Now, it’s happening!  Rep. Rufus Rodriguez said it all: “All they need is a crack.”  The approval of the rh bill on 3rd reading was that crack, openning up a box of worms, rh advocates had been planning all along.  Problem was, nobody listened to the more moderate-thinking legislators, branding them as Church trumpets, out-moded and backward.  Further, no one seriously listened that the rh bill, if it becomes a law, is only one among the many ultra feminists and pseudo human rights advocates are pushing to weaken the moral-social- cultural system of the country.  Among the technical meaning of “reproductive rights” for this group are the legalization of artificial contraception, abortion, divorce, same sex marriages, premarital sex and free sex.  If we have not seen it coming yet, the current bills filed in Congress should make us shodder already.  In fact, the mere “outlawing” of abortion is not a surefire safeguard against abortion.  Divorce is also illegal in the Philippines, but the definite purpose to make it legal is unmistakable.  It is only for show!  If we follow the trend, abortion will be made legal at some point, because we have allowed disrespect for the origin of life, right when we approved suppression of life as a public policy!

    I don’t know how we can right a wrong at this stage.  What seems to be certain from the Bible rings through.  “For which reason, those who have delivered me to you, have the greater sin,” our Lord tells Pilate who was after the truth, but because he wanted his political career more than the truth which he sought, gave in to the demand of the multitude finally.

    Seeing the trend, all lay Christians are called to live their faith more intensely.  Our weakness can be made strong by grace, so that we can “live now not I, but Christ who lives in me.”  The efforts of the Church should be appreciated, because she speaks as a Mother and Teacher to warn us of forces out to destroy the basis of our society in the name of “modernity.”  Marriage is not only a human institution and against our wishes, there is a God who rules and who expects obedience to his commandments, pleased with our sacrifices for the sake of the kingdom of heaven.  There we truly belong, perfect as the Father in heaven, knowing that society is made for man, not the other way around, and that this temporal world is only a preparation for the next.  Life is sacred; it is God who gives it and no one may legislate against its integrity, before, during and after sex.  The Christian should be open to life. 

    • vendetta07

      it’s time to reconcile, my friend. we are all brothers and sisters under God and now that debate is finally over we can all move on and work together again. let each family decide for themselves whether or not to use contraceptives.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Exactly.  All these bills do is give people choices.

        I cannot understand why some are so opposed to people gaining new choices and options.  It is, essentially, wishing unhappiness on people.

      • xrisp

        All for the sake of man’s happiness even if what man is doing is against the will of God. Treat every human’s flesh desire and happiness as your god and set aside God. Go on, wallow in man’s sinfulness. Grovel in the mire!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        If a man does not believe in the same things you do, why should your beliefs limit his rights?

        If an atheist wants a divorce from a civil union in the Philippines, he would be unable to get it, because of people like you.

        If Muslims suddenly became the majority in the Philippines and imposed veils on all women, would you be happy being forced to follow a law because of other people’s religions?

      • simondj

        who is telling you we can limit your right? you have the right and nobody can take that away from you, use it wisely.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        That’s complete and utter BS.

        If I were an atheist living in the Philippines, I would not be able to divorce because of people like you, even though morally I would find nothing wrong with it.  If you can’t see why you would then be limiting people’s rights, you are either deluded or completely blind.

      • simondj

        in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. if you said you are an atheist, you are actually questioning your existence,,, so what further more we should discuss?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        A.) I’m not an atheist, my question was clearly hypothetical, which you missed.

        B.) You don’t know jack about atheism, do you?

        C.) Answer the question, you coward.

      • xrisp

        Our FREEDOM is not absolute and it should be put under the authority of that ONE who gave you your life and freedom. Even your happiness that you enjoy should be offered back all for GOD’s GLORY and not just to glorify your OWN FLESH!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Our freedom isn’t absolute, but given the separation of Church and State and the many religions present in the Philippines, using the Bible to determine laws is utter madness, and unconstitutional to boot.

        Again, ONE religion’s beliefs should not hinder the rights of everyone else.

      • xrisp

        Climb up from the abyss while there is still time. Approach your Creator with all humility and he will enlighten you! May God have mercy on us all!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        I will face my Creator with a clear conscience and the belief that what I am doing is right.  If that isn’t good enough for him, and if he’d preferred that I go against my conscience and what I believed what right, then so be it.

      • xrisp

        Then so be it!

      • simondj

        true happiness which is coming from God is different from the happiness this world is offering you.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        Which is completely irrelevant to the discussion.

        Unless you’re arguing that the State should be forcing people to follow Christianity, in which case I’d suggest that you actually try and live in reality/

      • simondj

        there is no compulsion in religion.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

        You are so wrong it isn’t even funny.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Okay, first off, the anti-RH were not ‘moderate-thinking’.  They were conservative, easily.  The Church is pretty much the definition of conservative, and pretending that people who were essentially following the lead of the CBCP were anything but is ridiculous.

      Second, no one in your ridiculous generalization of groups thinks of divorce and same sex marriage as part of ‘reproductive rights’, and premarital and free sex are a separate issue altogether.  And lumping everything together with abortion just shows how little you know.

      Third, the thing you’re so concerned about?  It’s called progress.  Surprisingly, not everyone in the Philippines is happy about it being stuck in the dark ages. Furthermore, it should be noted that none of the things you’re whining about directly affect you unless you want them to, so you’re really just complaining about other people gaining rights. Keep crying about it, the world will move on without you.

      • Loggnat

         You tell ‘em, Jose. I can’t articulate it better than that. Go, Jose, Go. .:).

    • http://twitter.com/Sizzle75Ian ian martinez

      Your blind faith is to be pitied, many of the worst crimes against children are committed by religious people, as you well know, and all covered up to protect the institution.

      having “No divorces” allows a husband ( or wife ) who has left his spouse many years before to claim any new children from his old spouse with a new partner, to be his or her own and rich people will also influence law enforcers in this.
      That is the problem when religious dogma is put before practicality, when you make laws. Mothers will be allowed to die rather than make an abortion, this happened a few weeks ago in Irish Republic, a RC country with a similar religious dogmatic approach to law where the RC bishops have a strong influence.
      Social progress goes together with economic progress in western countries, in ITALY, home of the RC, they have had all these things for many years now. You can post as many quotes from good books as you like, but reality bites.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FFVPH2R22XWJ3Z6QOP3WBA6KA4 EC

      I am in absolute agreement with what you said in the last paragraph although I’m quite sure that the ‘church’ you are referring to cannot be the church of bishops and priests who have all sorts of perverts among them. And I also believe that the church should impose strict moral guidelines to its members but can only go as far as ADMONISH non-members to live to its standard. Nobody and no institution has the right to IMPOSE its will to the people who do not believe it in the first place. 

  • Rap88

    Ano na ang nangyayari sa atin? RH bill, Divorce bill, same sex marriage bill, man and animal- pet marriage bill, man and animal-pet divorce bill, RH bill for human and animal having  sex, ano pa? congress and senate isip pa kayo, go on….

    • http://ourleftfoot.blogspot.com/ Tristanism

      There’s bishops and kids divorce.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      It’s called progress.

      Well, not your weird animal stuff, that part is just messed up.  The rest would be though.

  • Fulpol

    Anti-political dynasty law is long forgotten…

    • http://twitter.com/wadjitzain coty

       and so are the victims of “Pablo”! what a disgrace!

    • Loggnat

       And the FOI bill which is more important than a divorce law, I think. The need to cleanse the government of corrupt and unsavory politician should be the next priority of the Philippines.

    • frudo

      susunod na rin yan 

  • batangsulpok

    Panahon na para magkaroon ng divorce law sa Pilipinas dahil napakaraming mga mag-asawa ang nagiging immoral kasi ang lalake ay may kabit at ang babae naman ay may lalake rin pero nagsasama pa rin dahil ang katwiran ay para sa mga anak.  Kung talagang di na puwedeng magsamang mag-asawa, kailangang mag-diborsiyo para ang mga bata ay di napapabayaan dahil may sustento na manggagaling sa ama o ina kasi korte ang magbibigay ng desisyon, di tulad ngayon na malimit inaabandona ang pamilya para sumama sa ibang babae o lalake.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/E24JALIW7YNEJVC4MQEJKEUEFY yahbets

       Di yan dapat binibigyan ng divorce. Dapat dyan pinaparusahan. Me kabit? Parusahan dapat wag bigyan ng kalayaan. Ano na lang halaga ng kasal nyan? Ang dali dali namang magdivorce e. Inabandona ang mga anak? Parusahan po.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D37WZ2JMEQUZR4QG74FRVXUJFQ John

    Favor ako sa divorce, but not in the form of what the US has. I suggest a divorce which only result from a criminal judgement with the offending party be barred from being eligible to marriage again while at the same time freeing the victim. This way, divorce cannot be use just because he/she wants to marry another

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5H2KUCZ24EZTZTKB22GL3A4WAU george bernard

    Good bill to pass. Divorce is the right way and not Bishop’s way.

  • RS1007

    See? RH opened the floodgates for all evils, thanks to these intelligent proponents. Divorce bill. Then legalized abortion. Next, assisted suicide. One evil after another. Soon, Philippines will be next Columbine, Georgetech and Northtown. 

    • xrisp

      And what could we expect brod if we have this kind of lawmakers now? All what God hates is now being embraced by this gov’t. What a degenerated country this will be!

      • Loggnat

         Wake up! It already is. Backward and shortsighted too. It has been for a long time with its double standard of justice, highly corrupt public servants, and highly politicized religious establishments who likes to sticks its nose in the government’s business and functions. It is finally making small steps to join the rest of the world and live in this generation and civilization.

      • xrisp

        The TRUTH what God teaches never goes backward. That’s just how everyone now is blinded by the tempter – to believe that it is worthless to be good. Anyway, there is the Creator up there seeing the faithful battle these waves of evil perpetrated by this own government.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/E24JALIW7YNEJVC4MQEJKEUEFY yahbets

       True enough. Let our voices be heard. Don’t put them back in office. Vote for prolife leaders this coming elections. 

    • sowhatifimfilipino

      Wow. You make it sound as if the Philippines is a “pure” country and having a divorce law would make it “evil”. Can you name one country that is devoid of such “evils”? 

      Is our country any better than other countries where divorce, abortion and assisted suicide are legal? Are we holier than the people of those countries? 

      • xrisp

        Let me just ak you if you are a Christian. If so, could you tell me please what God tells of divorce?

  • http://twitter.com/wetwidewild wetwidewild

    Filipinos are smart, it is all about sex:

    RH is for satisfying sex;
    divorce is for unsatisfying sex.
    all covered, by laws.

    good, have a great sex.

    • http://twitter.com/wadjitzain coty

       yes, “when sex is good it’s beautiful when sex is bad it’s still pretty good”! _ _ Woody Allen

    • sowhatifimfilipino

      Now we know wetwidewild is “smart.” ;p

  • dequis

    Si Pres Noynoy ni hindi makapagasawa, papipirmahin na ni Belmonte ng divorce law.

  • divictes

    We have no divorce, but for those who has money to spend can avail of annulment. Let’s put an end to this hypocrisy. Congress should begin crafting a divorce bill for Filipinos.

  • http://twitter.com/wadjitzain coty

    “the Philippines has become the only country in the world—apart from the Vatican—without a divorce law.”!
    what of it?! we are the only country in the world that is so hopelessly corrupt!

    • xrisp

      Let me just ak you if you are a Christian. If so, could you tell me please what God tells of divorce?

  • Joseph Aquino

    The husband is really a bad one and having divorce law will somewhat reward him unless the price of the divorce is an arm and a leg.

    The wife is a two-timer and she thinks if she is caught, she will just ask for divorce.

    The Filipino male is different, he will kill the woman so that no one around him can laugh at him.

    Granted that the divorce is accepted in time, we would have single mothers who could not afford to feed the children or send them to school.

    Cong. Belmonte, can we not just for once different from the world? Think of the children, not just your selfish, sexual needs. Sec Bengzon and Sec Manglapuz were also a bit too eager to push for divorce law because they have been living with their concubines, hence they want some sort of post-justification of their immoral lifestyle.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/A5CN52KKTWUHFZJZCWGMAIGZJM Gandalf

      Think first, will you? Divorce is set up so that the wife and children will be provided for, di tulas ngayon na pag iniwan wala na, kahit hindi na magpakita. E pag may divorce, the husband is COMPELLED by law na magbigay ng suporta sa wife and kids. May protection sila under the law. 
      Tayo na lang ang walang divorce e. Kung totoo yang masisira ang pamilyang Pilipino dahil lang sa existence ng divorce law, aba’y anong klaseng lipunan tayo? 
      Wag ninyong isiping ang mga Pilipino ay mga isip bata, na mga walang pagsasa-alang-alang sa pamilya. 
      The divorce law merely gives a CHOICE; as well as for the protection of thousands of abandoned wives and children who were left to fend for themselves.  
      Its about time.

      • sowhatifimfilipino

        Amen, Gandalf. 

      • simondj

        eh kung may magandang trabaho,, eh kung wala? papaano pipilitin ang wala?

      • Jane Tan

        Well-said. If they are so worried about abusing the law, its not that hard to set-up grounds for divorce as they did with annulment.

      • SelmerMk6

        I do not understand why it is that society always assumes that the husband is the abuser or the one with an ex-marital affair.  Let’s be honest – it takes two to tango.  There are many married women in the Philippines – regardless of social class that have extra marital affairs. I am tired of this cliche that women can do no wrong and that they are always the victims of a failed marriage.

    • frudo

      marami na tyo single mother, marami rin ang may mga kabit, marami na rin ang hiwalay sa asawa pero sympre di legal kasi wlang pera para mag apply ng legal seperation, marami na rin na nagugutom na mga bata dahil iniwan na sila ng tatay nila at hindi na sinoportahan,  lahat ng nagyayari sa mga bansang may batas na divorce nangyayari na sa Pinas, pero ang nkakalungkot isipin bakit tangap ng mga Pinoy ang annulment  na alam nmanatin na mayaman at mga celebrity lang ang nakikinabang, at ang mga mahihirap ay nagtitiis nalang, 

    • Hfxwst

      Ever hear of a thing called court ordered child support payments?  Dah!  It is a standard feature of divorce.  It ensures wives and children do not have to suffer an abusive marriage.  

  • John_Galt_II

    Way to go Philippines! I am sure this bill will pass.

  • http://twitter.com/wetwidewild wetwidewild

    I want to ask a stupid question:

    any law against abuse of Filipina ? 

    • Jane Tan

      Even if there was, you’d think a Filipina would confess under a threat of death? Or even a threat of separation/annulment?

  • Camillo

    Yes, please! Para sa kababaihan.

  • Janch

    Malabong maipapasa.  Maybe in another 10 years.

  • Albert Einstien

    ·        “Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.” Revelation 13:18

    the CHURCH should advice the FAITHFUL not to WEAR yellow ribbon anymore….if they want to defeat the devil….

    MARK of the DEVIL……………..yellow ribbon……!

    yellow RIBBON symbol number equivalent is 666…
    ( symbols are used for SUBLIMINAL mind control )

    .yellow ribbon isa symbol for WAR,DEATH, CHAOS, SUICIDES,GENOCIDE, DISASTER…it is a sign of hardship & negative feelings…negative feelings give power& strength to EVIL..

    write 6 on a piece of paper = 6

    at the back write 6 at the same spot of the first 6 = 6

    turn it to front and trace second 6 = 6

    VIOLA! = 666

    yellow ribbon symbol –the MARK- the KEY

    Tie a yellow ribbon song…in biblical sense

    Bus driver, please look for me’ Cause I couldn’t bear to see what I might see I’m( DEVIL ) really still in prison, and my love ( zombies ) she holds the KEYA simple yellow ribbon’s what I need to set me FREE…!

    yellow ribbon gives strength, summons & FREE the DEVIL…..!

    TRIVIA : 2 prominent figures with names number equivalent is 666

    :miguel (6) tuason (6) arroyo (6)

    noynoy ( 6 ) simeon ( 6 ) Aquino ( 6 )

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/Q3K4D7DHINOHU7E2JBPXY3JLZQ Josh

       hahahaha well reserched. funny.

    • sowhatifimfilipino

      And you dare call yourself Albert Einstein?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XQODE2FO77XSRL7WNORTHGEKUU Eric

       so let’s bring blue and red color si gloria at si 1st gentlemen back… wlang connect, nag quote ka pa nang Bible.

    • Hfxwst

      You are full of crap and 16th century Catholic superstition.

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

      Sir naman.

      Kaya naniniwala lang jan mga Catolico sarado (isip) kasi hindi naman empirical iyan.

      Actually kung itratranslate mo yan sa ibang language, false na ang result, so hindi universal fact iyan.

      Pag naniwala ang mga ‘sheep’ dyan eh di pinairal mo lang ang un-enlightenment nila. dba?

      • marionics

        bilib din naman ako sa tiyaga mo pre. mga known and confirmed irreversible trolls yan e pinipilit mo pa din maconvert o umaasa kang may matinong argumento kang makuha sa kanya. you are a bottomless pit of faith in human kind hahaha

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        ahahaha.

        no, baka kasi yung mga baguhan na readers akalain na OK mag post ng nonesense.

        Kailangan lang i point out para masabi na hindi ito ang norm, at mas mataas ang level of conversation ng mga tao.

        good morning to you sir. Sarap ng coffee ano.

      • marionics

        well if you want to then go ahead and rage…rage..against the dying of the light hehe

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        reminds me of a father who had a psycho ex wife. after years of dealing with her, its not important to get angry while arguing facts or details with the PEW. But what is important is document his side without being argumentative.

        Simply, he doesn’t want to argue, but he cannot let lies be part of the documentation, and so, he has no choice but to state (his version of) the facts in all forms of comm.

        anyway. ok lang.

      • marionics

        hey it’s noble of you

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        reminds me to ask, what’s your take on divorce?

      • marionics

        hey i’m all for trying your best for a happy ever after but if it really doesn’t work out then why force them to stay married? i myself am on our 22nd year and still going very strong he he. but i acknowledge that not everyone has what i have. especially those who married very young (ganun naman talaga ang nagyayari sa atin lalo na sa probinsya di ba?) and have not really found their true love (baduy no?) until later. they should be allowed to do what they have to do to be happy. isn’t it our constitutional right to pursue happiness? he he

      • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

        tama sir.

        pragmatic ka dapat sa buhay. why stay kung ang quality of life suffers for both spouses… and what do you call a person who wallows in misery when you all you have to do is accept, move on, and find happiness.

    • okabato

       Nice piece Albert now take your medication.

  • Janch

     I have a feeling na maraming congressional spouses ang tututol sa divorce law.

  • Winzum Daoas

    IF this bill will lead to immorality as suggested by the RC church, then such could have been seen in all other countries, since the Philippines is the only country without such a law. The morality of people depends on their personality and the environment in which they are raised. For example, a child raised in an environment where his/her parents constantly have violent misunderstandings leads to a child with violent tendencies. 

    • xrisp

      Let me just ask you if you are a Christian? If so, could you also tell me what God tells of divorce?

  • Joaquin Fernandez

    Untimely. Rubbing salt on a fresh wound, this pronouncement is unnecessary. Just do your jobs.

  • dantesan

    It about time. Think out of the prayle’s box!

    • xrisp

      Let me just ask you if you are a Christian? If so, could you also tell me what God tells of divorce?

      • frudo

        let me also ask you  if you are a priest  

  • tra6Gpeche

    Speaker Belmonte, you will be my next hero. At least, now, divorce in the Philippines will be debated by pros and anti. This will benefit the poor couples who want to be single and free again. Annulment is too expensive and only the wealthy can afford them. I suppose in the Philippines, we just have to be patient. After that, legal abortion might be necessary to have in order to stop the so many underground abortions going on in the Philippines. Thank you, Speaker Belmonte!

  • Hfxwst

    Are the Catholic Bishops arrogant enough to believe that every other country is wrong?

     If they truly believe marriage to be a “covenant”, then they would insist men and women be treated equally, but in the Catholic definition,men are allowed to sex outside the marriage and women not – now is that 16th century thinking?Divorce should be based on equally shared property laws, rather than some silly Catholic annulment  fantasy – imposed on even non Catholics.

    Catholic colonialism.

    • xrisp

      Let me just ask you if you are a Christian? If so, could you also tell me what God tells of divorce?

      • Hfxwst

        Yes I am a Christian, but not a Catholic. In a country who’s rights include religious freedom, I expect the God I serve to be as respected as the silly Catholic annulment fantasy your corrupt Bishops try to shove down my throat.

        If you don’t like it, move to the Vatican – where there is no religious freedom

      • xrisp

        I didn’t see any answer what God tells of divorce. Why can’t you answer now what you do best by quoting Bible verses.

        Your reply above is like a rocket short of hitting its target!

      • Hfxwst

        What exactly does the Bible – yours or mine, have to do with divorce? Marry in Jehovah Witness Church but required to divorce by Catholic law – that’s crap.

        Get your silly annulment fantasy out of our laws.

        BTW – not all Christians are Catholic – you are not ignorant enough to think that yours in the only Bible are you?

      • xrisp

        Getting interesting. What denomination do you belong? Who is your leader? When were you established as church?

      • frudo

        wag nyo ipilit ang paniniwala nyo sa lahat ng Pinoy, hindi lahat ng Pilipino katoliko,democrasyang bansa tayo, kung yan ang paniniwala mo manatili ka jan sa paniniwala mo,  ang issue dito wag kayong makialam sa gobyerno ng Pinas sila ang binoto ng tao hindi ang bishop hindi ang pari, at sila ang gagawa ng batas, kung naniniwla kayo sa aral sa doctrina at sag mga prinsipyo ng itinuro nyo sa mga member nyo hindi makikipag divorce ang mga ito kasi nga sa mga itinuro nyo pero may mga tao na hindi naniniwal sa inyo, 

      • xrisp

        Who are people to believe in anyway? Look at the nature of all pro RH here – all exploding into rage and anger. Short of killing their co-posters!!! Hahaha!!!

      • frudo

        ang anti rh ganun din di mo lam at nababsa ang mga comment nila hahahah 

      • Hfxwst

        I don’t subscribe to your Catholic doctrine or Bible. It has nothing to do with making laws for everyone in the Philippines many of whom are NOT Catholic. Philippines is supposed to be a democracy for everyone, not just Catholics. Besides, your Bible approves slavery and selling your daughters, I want no part of that.

        Move to the Vatican if you want your religion forced on eeveryone

      • frudo

        Jesus said “And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”

      • frudo

        read matthew ch 19  yung ang sinabi mismo ni Lord Jesus Christ tungkol sa divorce . now sabihin mo sakin kung kasalanan ba ang makipag divorce  at hindi ba yun pinayagan sa BIble?

  • okabato

    Divorce in the Philippines is currently allowed. It comes in the name of  “annulment” where one has to spend a minimum of P200,000 to have it finalized. Divorce right now is only for the rich and it is unfair to the poor couples who want to be uncoupled.

    • Jane Tan

      I know some people who started going to Church more after experiencing financial woes that came after their marriage because the priest who was supposed to interview them still “ok’d” the marriage despite certain things like – guy is unemployed, has no savings, not a good father etc etc.

      Its like they are just allowing these marriages to happen even with a high risk of failure in order for people to come back to the Church. Even the family planning seminar held there was okay with it.

      Its just a theory – here in the Philippines, the more suffering a person experiences, the more he/she will believe in the Church.

      • xrisp

        What an ignorant logic. Go on with your liberated theories lady!

      • jdhdl

        then its not the fault of the priests,  its the fault of the couple.  why should we find fault on another person or policy and not look first at ourselves.   if the guy is unemployed, has no savings and not a good father, would you like to marry that guy/girl just because of love?  would you think he/she is ready to enter marriage and be a responsible parent?      wow! papunta na to sa responsible parenthood.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Psiitoon Charoenkrung

        guy un-employed, no savings, not a good father is not and cannot be the reason to have divorce law in the Philippines.  If u have this kind of father then bring him to good family counselling session.  I have seen many bad fathers changed because of good counselling but divorce will just make a bad father to become worst as ever.

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

      Ano, monopoly ng RCC ang divorce under the banner ‘annulment’ tapos ayaw nilang i implement para sa lahat?

      • frudo

        uu nga kaya nga bakit nga ba ganun parang unfair diba?

    • KingKuppa

      i agree that in the philippines annulment is only for the rich.  and in the end, if majority of filipinos want divorce, why stop it?  last time i check we are in a democratic country.

  • mrgracia

    Aangal na naman ang mga “Padre Damaso”. Magandang kabanata na dapat subaybayan. May palagay akong “riot” ito, baka maghubad na ng abito ang mga obispo. Pag na-approve ang divorce, sundan nyo pa ng ‘same sex marriage” para talagang classic!

    • xrisp

      Let me just ask you if you are a Christian? If so, could you also tell me what God tells of divorce?

      • frudo

        Bibilical ang divorce basahin mo sa matthew 19

      • xrisp

        You make me laugh brod frudo. Could you please say the gist of that Bible chapter? Is it hard to say that God does not allow divorce?

      • frudo

        Jesus said “And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”ayan matthew 19   Ikaw Christian ka ba paano ka naging kristiano

  • Jack Phalaphitac

    Listen. Hear the people and pay attention . Give the people the good and the bad of having a divorce law. Put everything on the table. Debate on it, bring in the amendments, vote on it. The people will tell you if they want it or not. Just don’t let yourself be dictated upon by the Damasos. Do not let them impose their agenda and anachronistic dogmas on everybody, again. It is the one thing the people could do without. To them, with one ear, listen.

  • http://twitter.com/wetwidewild wetwidewild

    yes, divorce may give an exit for the abused, but it is also let the abuser get away.

  • http://twitter.com/wetwidewild wetwidewild

    the focus should be to punish the abuser so that he never dares to abuse.

  • mousy

    see, tama ang sinasabi ng mga bishops at pari, isusunod na nila ang divorce, tapos niyan same sex marriage.
    traydor ang mga namumuno sa Pilipinas na nagsusulong ng mga batas na ito, imbes na makatulong sa mga tao pinagsasamantalahan nila ang pagiging ignorante ng karamihan sa magiging epekto nito sa lipunan sa kabuuan.
    gumagaya tayo sa mga 1st world countries, tanungin niyo ang mga OFWs sa mga bansang ito para malaman ninyo na ang tanging kayamanan na lang natin dito sa Pilipinas ay ang PAMILYA. Sisirain pa ng mga batas na isinusulong ng mga mapagsamantalang opisyal pinangungunahan na ng nakakadismayang pangulo.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Psiitoon Charoenkrung

      If the abuses of those that are in power continues then I think its time now for the church to act and mobilize millions in the streets until these abusers are taken out of power.

      • marionics

        yes but they tried that and failed miserably hahaha

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Psiitoon Charoenkrung

        who knows they will not failed this time.  divorce issue is a hot issue and it can gather hundreds of thousands if the church decides to do it

      • marionics

        you are a bottomless pit of faith he he

      • frudo

        hindi lahat ng tao sa Pinas ay katoliko sana nman bigyan nyo nman ang iba na maka pamili kung ano gusto nilang mangyari sa buhay nila di nyo nman buhay un eh kung kasalanam man sa Dios ang makipag divorce sila nman ang haharap sa Dios at sila ang paparusahan, pero dahil sa pang aalipin ninyo at lagi nyo pagkontra nawawala ang kalayaan ng ibang tao na hindi naman nyo katulad ng pananampalataya at paniniwala na makapag decide or makapamili kung ano ang dapat para sa buhay nila, halimbawa ang isang ina na halos binubugbug araw araww ng adik at lasengong asawa walang magawa kung hindi magtiis nalang, democracy bansa tayo

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSVQX2K3LPZJZWM6LZTJ7ULIFE Mon

       pre masyadong makitid ang utak mo…kung di ka na masaya sa asawa mong nang-bababae at binubugbug ka halos araw-araw, gusto mo pa bang makisama sa kanya? kung oo sagot mo, di na mag tatagal ang buhay mo at mamamatay ka na sa bugbug..kawawa naman ang mga anak mo na ma-uulila. tsk tsk tsk

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Psiitoon Charoenkrung

        marami akong nakikita na masamang ama,  masama pa sa sinabi mo pero nagbago sila pagkatapos na dumaan sa counselling session. Kung hayaan mo iyang masamang ama na iyan at iwanan mo lang and resulta eh iba naman ang mabubogbog niya.  Kaya divorce is not the solution but good counselling is so away from the useless divorce law

    • frudo

      magpaalipin lang ang mga bishop at pari dito sa Pinas, gusto nila sila masusunod lahat ng batas na gustong isulong ng gobyerno na di pabor sa kanila tutulan nila ang gagamitan nila ng impluensya at kapangyarihan, pagbabanta, ganito nalang para mas simple,,  kung lahat ng Catholic na bansa sa buong mundo walang divorce bill, ayun sasanagyon ako na dapat walang divorce, kaso lahat meron na eh,eh bakit dun sa ibang bansa di sila nakapalag di nila natutulan, bakit dito sa Pinas nagagawa nila,  hangang kailan tayo magiging alipin nila,

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BXBYZ5EB467UVJRXK4IOM5BX4Y Todd

    Matthew 19:9King James Version (KJV)
    9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery

    • Ricky Bobby

      Yan ang paniniwala mo, hindi lahat pareho ang paniniwala/religion. Posting a verse from the bible does not make your argument correct. 

      Church and state should be divorced. Pun intended. 

  • tanga_hanga_ni_abnoy

    ok lang ang divorce..its a choice and just an option, hindi yan mandatory.  Bakit ka nman makikipag divorce kung nagmamahalan nman kayo deva?

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

      honga.

      at kung katoliko ka, you can still practice your prayle’s form of birth control UNDER the same freedom the RH bill provides. So why raise complain kung choice RCC method din ang gagamtin nyo na ginagamit nyo na before?

    • xrisp

      What a very deep insight. You will never get out of the depth of the pit you are digging for yourself!

      • tanga_hanga_ni_abnoy

         don’t worry, d ako umaasa sa mga tao s paligid ko

      • xrisp

        Let me just ask you if you are a Christian? If so, could you also tell me what God tells of divorce?

      • tanga_hanga_ni_abnoy

        i am christian and a catholic and even if i tell you i may not able to convince you. Meantime let’s make this an exchange of opinion for the meantime. Who knows people like you might convince me to think otherwise. Sa ngayon, there are people who suffer for many reasons valid or invalid because of the absence of divorce here. tayo n lang ata s buong mundo ang wala

      • xrisp

        Look at your face in the mirror and ask yourself if you are still a Catholic by the way you make your comments here. I urge you to see one of our Catholic priests and have a discussion with him regarding our faith. Please do and be enlightened. I did that so many times.

      • tanga_hanga_ni_abnoy

        my brother is a priest. I respect his position/opinion

  • Barak_O

    i can see the fvckers are making noise here

    probably having fvcked up and separated parents

    now they want to make it easy for their kids to get out of their fvcked up lives

    fvcked up people are a problem in a society

    they believe fvcking is a non negotiable right

    and so they fvck around fvcking everyone

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PZR7JI7G2WD2CTVMZ7LM667FD4 Ugly Bunny

    Mauuna pa ba yan sa FOI Bill at Anti-Dynasty Bill? Leche tlga!

    • http://www.dafk.net/what/ Kilabot ng mga Balahibo

       honga no.

    • peach black

      Misplaced priorirties or a case of looking the other way?

  • Denzel Boksingero

    Sa dami ng kelangan na legislation para sa ekonomiya o labanan ang corruption, bakit divorce pa ang pagtuonan ng pansin? Dapat seguro maging rich country status muna tayo bago magka roon ng divorce law or law on same-sex marriage. Gaano ba ka importante yang mga batas na yan para matugunan ang kawalan ng trabaho at kahirapan? 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Psiitoon Charoenkrung

      u are right,  dapat ang gutom muna ang pagtutuonan ng pansin.  I don’t know how many families will be celebrating their noche buena with empty plates and stomachs or bagoong as noche buena.  Focus first on the alleviation of poverty.  The government should focus on creating more jobs for the jobless and hungry population

  • concern_netizen

    I am a staunch supporter of RH.  But I hope congress will allow our wounds to heal before tackling another divisive bill.  Why not just improve legal separation instead of crafting another bill that is similar in purpose.

    • frudo

      what is the difference bbetween legal separation and divorce parehas lang punta nun hiwalay parin? tangap nyo ang annulment pero divorce hindi ano pinagkaiba ng dalawa?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Psiitoon Charoenkrung

        pareho lang pala eh bakit nagsasayang pa tau ng panahon dito sa divorce issue?

      • frudo

        at sino lang ba ang pwede mag pa annul ng kasal? mga mayayaman na may pambayad sa mga abogado mga celebrity eh paano yung mga walang pera magtitis na lang yun ang pinagkaiba?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Psiitoon Charoenkrung

    These ignorant people that are sponsoring divorce are really ignorant of what a family and human nature is.  Divorce does not strengthen family values but is destroying it.  There is no human or perfect family in this world.  Every man or family has their own weaknesses and strength.  You find a new partner but the problem is not gone it just change its color. You will end up finding a new partner the rest of your life.  Problems in the family can better be dealt  with counselling of husband and wife.  There are many christians organizations doing this so why not the government harness the capabilities of the churches to heal families instead of tinkering on the useless and problematic divorce bill

    • frudo

      may asawa ka na ba alam mo ba ang lahat ng nangyayari sa mga  buhay ng mga magasawa para sabihin mong mga ignorante ang mga tao na papabor sa divorce law? tayo lang pala ang pinaka hindi ignorante sa buong mundo dahil tyo lang ang bansa sa buong mundo na walang divorce law

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Psiitoon Charoenkrung

        Its not because the whole world has it then we have to follow.  As I said every human being has problem because we all have our own weaknesses and strength.  It is futile to find a perfect partner or a family without problem because they don’t exist.  Thats why for me divorce is useless and people sponsoring it are ignorant people.

      • frudo

        at ignorante ka rin pare parehas lang 

    • boypalaban

      di man ako sang-ayon sa yo sa RH, sang-ayon naman ako sa panananaw mo dito sa divorce issue…

  • Yobhtron

    Yes to Divorce Law. Congress should also pass a bill to tax all religious business entity especially those expensive church schools.

    • xrisp

      Let me just ask you if you are a Christian? If so, could you also tell me what God tells of divorce?

      • Guest

         God tells us, it is up to us to settle the issue.

      • xrisp

        You just added a sin to your life by witnessing falsely to God’s will. Never will you find what you said in any of the Scriptures. Never twist God’s truth. You’ll dearly pay for it in the end!

  • carlorocci

    Rodriguez told the Inquirer. “This will definitely destroy families and the future of their children.”   
    Paano mo pa sisirain ang sira ng pamilya?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Every other country has divorce laws too, and their families are fine.

      Really, if we were thinking rationally, this would be a no brainer.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Psiitoon Charoenkrung

      bring healing to the problematic families through good marriage counselling.  I have seen how many families have recovered from their problems because of counselling.  Away with this useless divorce law

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MZOKC6X7Q52Z4E5VLYNB7GF72Y Kaloy

    What’s the difference between annulment and divorce? Divorce is more practical faster and less expensive. Annulment by the catholic takes a long long period and takes a huge amount from the couple who wants to separate after a failed marriage.

    There is a huge difference between enduring and enjoying a marriage.

    So what is the real reason behind the catholic church vehemently objecting a divorce law? Money?

    • xrisp

      Let me just ask you if you are a Christian? If so, could you also tell me what God tells of divorce?

      • peach black

        We’d like to know

      • xrisp

        May be you could do it first because up to now Im still about to receive any enlightenment from those who like to have divorce. Please.

      • KingKuppa

        divorce law is not just for christians, it is for filipinos.  you can always choose not to divorce even if there is a divorce law.  But you cannot force other people not to divorce.  This is a democratic country, if majority wants divorce, then go ahead.

      • xrisp

        You got a failing grade. You do not know how to follow instruction. You did not answer the question. Read carefully before answering.

      • KingKuppa

        im not the one being questioned, so why do i need to answer?

      • xrisp

        Then why connect it to my post. Hahaha.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Psiitoon Charoenkrung

        your questions has been answered by many and u keep posting it?  don’t u have another idea to comment?  God is not for divorce,  Jesus just allows it because of the stubbornness of man.  God said firmly said;  ”Whatsoever God has joined together let no man put asunder.”  This is very clear verse that God does not approved of divorce

      • xrisp

        That’s why I have asked a lot of them same question to see how will they react. You’re the first to answer it straight with what was plainly said in the Scriptures. Others are trying to justify divorce with their twisted reasoning.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Psiitoon Charoenkrung

      Do u really think that divorce will result in enjoyable family?  hahaha,  u must be dreaming.  I have seen many people having divorce many times because they cannot find a partner that they desire and its because there is no perfect partner in this world. Everybody has problem.  Divorce is not the solution to good marriages but good counselling can.

  • Karabkatab

    Para sa may mga pera lang ang law na ito.  Importante ito sa hatian ng kanilang mga yaman at bayarin sa babae.  Karamihan sa mga pinoy ngayon ay nagsasama na walang kasal sa huwes man o kaya sa simbahan. Sila ay malayang maghiwalay ano mang oras at wala naman silang paghahatiang yaman.

    • marionics

      di gaya ng kumare mo ano pre na limpak limpak ang kayamanan ano? he he

      • Karabkatab

        Oo pre, bagay kay kumare mo ang law na ito kapagka nagkaroon na rin ng law on same sex marriage.  Pero malamang dedo na si kumare mo nyan bago nya ma enjoy ang law na yan. Hahaha..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

    Patindi nang patindi ang pananagutang pinapasan ng Simbahan…gawin itong hamon…hindi maaaring diktahan ng Simbahan ang Estado, sapagka’t magkaiba ang kanilang linya ng pananagutan — ang Simbahan ay spiritual, habang ang Estado ay physical well being ng mamamayan.

    Ang tatag at tibay ng mga mananampalataya ay nalulukuban ng pag-a-alinlangan dahil sa hindi sapat na transparency sa kaso ng mga nagkasalang pari.  Hindi ang pananampalataya ang diprensiya…kundi ang ilan sa mga nagpapasunod sa pananampalataya…mayro’ng isang makahulugang kanta, something like, “if I wanna change the world, let it begin with me”…may not be the exact lyrics, but the thought is there.  Umpisahan ang paglilinis sa sariling hanay..

    Ang mga nagkamaling mga pari at ng mga nangangaral ay parang mga anay na sumisira sa tatag ng pananampalataya.  Sapat ba ang mga ginawang pamamaraan at naipamalas ba sa mga mananampalataya ang ginawang pagsupil sa mga nagkamaling alagad ng simbahan.

    Hindi dapat masira ang buong bahay dahil lamang sa mga anay sa ilang bahagi nito.  Napapanahon na para ipakita ng mga namumuno ang ginagawa nilang pagpuksa upang manatiling malinis at maayos ang Simbahan.

  • xrisp

    Its a battle between the TRUTH and LIE. The TRUTH comes from the WISDOM of GOD and this will never fade until the end of time. And LIE, this is the wisdom of the adversary – all false hope but is like sweet-tasting honey to those who pretend to know God but only give Him in return their lip-service.

    • KingKuppa

      here’s the TRUTH, you’ve been butt-fcuked by a priest before, and you liked it.

      • xrisp

        This is the kind of people supporting such laws and the likes of it to come. They are wild, arrogant, hypocrites(pretending to love those who need help and the poor) but very easy to slam their anger on their brothers faces. If only their curses could kill.  Hahaha. Pity yourself!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RQAI5FOTAR2RBE2QLM7F6SJKOY Jun

    no need for a divorce… just a pre-nup agreement requirement before marriage. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D37WZ2JMEQUZR4QG74FRVXUJFQ John

      an agreement between husband and wife will not desolve the marriage. I think its illegal to put any time limit to the marriage in a pre nuptial agreement

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

    After divorce bill, ang isusulong ng mga tongresmen ay same sex marriage, then legalize shabu law, then abortion law, then animal-man law, then ….

    • peach black

      you got too carried away :-))

      • JanofVA

         Really???  Isn’t that what’s happening in the US???  First it was abortion..then divorce..now they have legalized marijuana…and gay marriage in certain states….trust me..that will be coming…just a matter of time…

      • xrisp

        You’re very right brod! So put on our shield, our armor, our breastplate, every weapon we could use. The trident is being wedged by its holder!!!

    • demonYOU

       si UrHONOR ang una magpapakasal pag naisa batas yan!

    • xrisp

      Then the Philippines will be a ZOO – full of beasts!

  • ztefertilizerscam9

    next church tax bill para magbayad ng tamang buwis ang mga corrupt na mitsubishop at safari..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/276L22SZM5ZUQGV24IL4ZEF6UA Edward

      galing nyo nmn…. bakit Katoliko lng ba ang simbahan sa pinas? 

      hangal ka rin anoh? 

      Mas mainam nga yan kung buhisan na ang mga simbahan..

      Alam nyo ba na pabor ang Catholic Church na buwisan ang simbahan gaya sa ibang bansa? Matagal ng pabor ang Inang Simbahan na buhisan ang mga ito kaso may batas kasi tau patungkol rine.. At para magkaalaman kung may matitira pang mga kultong grupo na kristiyano na nagsulputan sa ating lipunan gaya ng mga mahilig sa ikapo…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/276L22SZM5ZUQGV24IL4ZEF6UA Edward

      FYI, nagdunung dunungan…

      no tax for churches, etc. if it is used exclusively for religious, charitable purposes.. Other church property, convents are subject to property tax.

      Article 6, Section 28(2):
      “Charitable institutions, churches and personages or convents appurtenant thereto, mosques, non-profit cemeteries, and all land, buildings, and improvements, actually, directly, and exclusively used for religious, charitable, or educational purposes shall be exempt for taxation.”

      • ztefertilizerscam9

        Dapat di sila  nag interfere with the state kasi di sila nagbabayad ng buwis.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/276L22SZM5ZUQGV24IL4ZEF6UA Edward

        Indeed. little learning is a very dangerous thing…

        Ask our legislators to amend the 1987 Philippine Constitution so that all the churches(not just the Catholic Church) may now pay taxes to the government…

        It is not the fault of the Church that they are not paying taxes to the government. The Church has its inherent charitable purposes in nature that makes Her exempted in paying monies to the government…

        Bilang bahagi ng sibilisadong lipunan ang simbahan ay bahagi rin ng lipunan. Bilang bahagi ng lipunan ang simbahan ay isa ring social being…and as social being siya rin ay isang political being na dapat makilahok at makialam sa gawain ng isang lipunan…

        If I were you better go back to school and study social philosophy.. kung hindi mn mas maigi mag aral kau ng political science especially on The Social Contract by Jean-Jacques Rousseau (1762)..that you may understand

      • ztefertilizerscam9

        During Arroyo administration, may nagawa ba ang mga pari para palayasin si Arroyo? NO

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/276L22SZM5ZUQGV24IL4ZEF6UA Edward

        here we go ano ito double standard?

        matutuwa kau kung makialam ang Simbahan sa pamahalaan na gusto nyo gaya ng perceived nyo na kaso during Arroyo admin…

        Now, ayaw nyong makialam ang Simbahan kasi d ayon sa kagustuhan nyo…

        Ano ito? pupurihin ang SC kapag pabor sa inyo ang hatol…babatikusin nyo ang SC kapag d pabor sa inyo tulad ng kesyo nasuhulan ang mga huwis etc etc…

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/276L22SZM5ZUQGV24IL4ZEF6UA Edward

        tanong. bakit nmn pakialaman ng Simbahan ang kaso ni Arroyo na political in nature? it is purely ‘political’ my dear…

        fyi, bawal kasi sa batas ng Simbahan (canon law) na makialam sa political issues ang Simbahan..Pero kung ang pag uusapan ay social issues nararapat lamang makialam ang Simbahan khit saan tulad ng mga bansang kilala ang Simbahan sa usaping panlipunan…

        ang usaping pinag uusapan sa ngyon ay tungkol sa social issues…

        better know to differentiate political issues from social issues..tpos hanapin nyo ang similarity ng dalawang ito pagkatapos nyong makita ang pagkakaiba…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BV5XUIS2NB44OMRVV42QVN4GVI Johnlove

    In the Philippines, murder is the only way out of a bad marriage.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/PABEYKXBDR7MAHBSJNGN7Y75SI Jose

      as way lolo would say don’t get married early if your not ready for the responsibilities.
      By giving divorce to Filipinos, marriage would only be like social contract between two people the sanctity of it will diminish. 

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/hbRkpPw1oYTBJamz.EH7acMZBBVoIlWXriA-#e4348 Felix

    sige gawa tayo ng divorce law para yumaman ang ating bansa. ang ibang bansa ay mayaman dahil may divorce law. gayahin natin lahat ng batas ng ibang mayaman na bansa. para yan sa mga susunod na henerasyon.

    • JanofVA

       Yes…you should follow the US footsteps…divorce, abortion, gay marriage…they have money, but there is chaos in the family and the church…kids here are being raised by the schools and their parents are busy making money to pay attention to them..you know what the result is???  COLORADO SCHOOL SHOOTING…CONNECTICUT SCHOOL SHOOTING…DENVER MOVIE THEATER SHOOTING…is that what you want for the Philippines????  I pray to God it’s not….trust me, money is not everything….

  • alcbu

    The Speaker said it well. But considering a Divorce law could take another decade it would be wise to file it right after the election. Another important legislation to consider is legalized abortion which to me is more relevant to the RH bill considering the health of a mother is involved. In fact the latter to me, should take precedence if our congress deem it to be too risky or too bruising for them to file both at once. Let’s not copy the West like what we’re doing with K+12 educ system. We had our RH bill which we, that includes the Catholic church, can proudly call our very own. Conservative and attuned to our sensibilities as a Filipino nation. Let’s have that kind of Abortion and Divorce law as soon as possible.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/PABEYKXBDR7MAHBSJNGN7Y75SI Jose

      Let the mother decide whether which of them will live the baby or her, not this stupid abortion law. It is inhumane and genocidal. Your just looking an exit for your responsibility, if your ready for a baby use a condom it will only cost you less than 50 pesos. please use common sense. 

      • alcbu

        Let the mother decide …isn’t that what the law is all about?.. Right to choose? Anyway, pls read my comment well ..Conservative and attuned for Filipinos. What I have in mind are legalized abortion in cases of rape, incest and when the mother’s health is at risk. No abortion for teenage pregnancy and unplanned pregnancy there’s no excuse for that anymore since the RH bill is now law, contraceptives will be widely available including your preferred choice condom.

    • Philcruz

      I am for the RH and the Divorce laws. But I am not for a Legalized Abortion Law. This is actual murder of a living helpless human being.. a baby.

  • Philcruz

    Big big chance that this bill is going to be passed into law. The Church is going to end  up with a  bloody nose again on this one.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Psiitoon Charoenkrung

      Don’t challenge the church because they can always mobilize millions on the street if they do desire to do it and if that happens that will be the end of this administration.

  • peach black

    Usually, it’s the husbands who do not favor divorce.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/PABEYKXBDR7MAHBSJNGN7Y75SI Jose

      No I like it. Just make sure you let your wife sign a pre-nup lol!

  • JanofVA

    My heart is broken over these two laws.  I brag to my American husband all the time that the Philippines is still a very moral and very religious country compared to the US.   Now, I am devastated that not only are we allowing contraceptives to be used, they are now considering divorce laws….what’s next, legal abortion laws???  gay marriage laws??? 

    My husband is American and his parents got divorced when he was 10 years old.  His parents both got remarried by the time he was 12.  His parents had a very bitter and hard divorce which ended up in court.  Because of this he never really had a very good relationship with his dad.  His heart never really healed over not having a whole family specially around Christmas time.  Divorce is easy for the parents….but please, think about your kids!!!!!!  It pains me to hear my husband talk about the heartache he had to endure when his parents separated….he calls it the saddest day of his life.

    • jseesus

      so if you are married in the philippines, maybe your husband and you are next in line. don’t be afraid. if you are not meant for each other then find another one, maybe a british or australian might suffice.

      • JanofVA

         Don’t be jackass…..I live in the US…I’ve been married for 15 years…I married my husband and committed for life.  I value my Catholic marriage and I value my kids future and their happiness.  Yes, it hasn’t been easy, but who says life is easy???  Marriage is not a joke…if you don’t intend to keep your vow, then don’t get married.

      • Guest

         Do have the Catholic views to be imposed on non-Catholic churches?

      • Nathanael Espino

        HEAR HEAR

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “I value my kids future and their happiness.”

        If your American husband drinks too much or projects suspicious “cheating” behaviors, then you shall reach a tipping point in your marriage. 

        By that time, your kids shall notice and develop concern and unhappiness within the family still.  And if you forgive your American husband while your husband continues to strikes out a certain number of times, your whole family will need to sit down and discuss options of Divorce JanofVA.

        Whether it is 20 years, 25 years, or beyond 30 years of being married to the same spouse, you may be committed for life, but how certain can you guarantee your American husband to have the same commitment?

        The same purpose we pay Auto Insurance despite being confident about our driving skills is the same reason why there are provisions of Divorce here in the states.  It’s for safety reasons and JUST-IN-CASE circumstances.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Psiitoon Charoenkrung

        and u will surely end up with,  we’re not meant for each other everytime you remarry because as I said everybody has their own problems,  their own weaknesses and strength 

    • disqus_ZrxaGjUzMQ

      DONT BRAG  – FILIPINOS THESE DAYS ARE NOT GOING TO BE EASILY FOOLED BY CATHOLICS AGAIN

      • boypalaban

         IKAW NA LANG NAMAN NALOLOKO E…LOKONG LOKO KA NA SA KATSUTSUPA….KANINO BANG KARGADA ANG PINAKA TYPE MO?

    • leobsky

      I think divorce law will complicate life. Can you imagine for a husband or wife seperated and re-married with two different set of children. Maintaining two families at the same time with very little income. That’s headache for the rest of your life. The children will become confuse of introducing their family members and him/herself to the public. Of course it will create not transparent emotional relationships among themselves just to not hurt each feeling. You cannot just express what is necessary to express. People who are in favor of the proposed law assumption is that their life will become good or easy having the law. We are seperating our body to our soul, pwede ba yun?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HP6AUNXRZHK5X53ONM5IY6K6EY Oracle

      Mathew 5:32 says “But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.” Therefore, “marital unfaithfulness” is a valid ground for divorce. The Catholic Church seem to have ignored this.

    • PurpleDaisy13

      re: “It pains me to hear my husband talk about the heartache he had to endure when his parents separated”

      Your husband needs to get over it, he’s no longer a baby.

      There are kids around the world who live in extreme poverty who were abandoned by their own parents or don’t even know one or both of their parents.

      Being raised as a spoiled brat in America makes you a weaker child with a weaker heart so that when you get older you are unprepared to face the real world and the challenges of reality.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KTTQLNLRE6VMHNJOHGVJKIFPIQ wilfredo

    sige hehehe pabagsakin na ntn katoliko

  • tata_boy

    How about FOI bill before divorce bill?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PABEYKXBDR7MAHBSJNGN7Y75SI Jose

    Looking forward to it mr. congressman, I need a new young wife. Sarap nito.

    • Don Dee

      I know you are being sarcastic. But I guarantee you, a divorce law will not get you a new young wife, if you can not get a young new girlfriend without the divorce law. Ano ba mas tama, yung hot new girlfriend habang hindi pa ayos ang paghihiwalay mo sa iyong old wife o yung at least there is a lawful settlement (with provisions for financial support) before getting that new hot wife? I’m a happily married man. And have no plans to divorce my wife. But I see no reason why miserable marriages should not be amicably and lawfully dissolved.

    • Bullet Train

      Your new young wife will surely like you. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KTTQLNLRE6VMHNJOHGVJKIFPIQ wilfredo

    ok yan..masaya yan..hehe

  • Don Dee

    Reality check moralists. People have sex for pleasure and not necessarily to procreate whether there is a RH law or not. And likewise, married people sometimes end up going their separate ways whether there is a divorce law or not. It is not the laws that make these realities. The laws are mere reflections of these realities. Ang katangahang misrepresentation ng Catholic Church e, kung wala batas ng RH, e wala ng underage sex o premarital sex (pero si Padre, molestya pa rin si altar boy, sikret!). At kung walang divorce law, walang maghihiwalay. Sorry people, but that is just stupid.

    • JanofVA

       Obviously, you do not read the Bible…it’s not about people getting separated, it’s getting married in church…

      Luke 16:18
      “Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery,
      and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.”

      Matthew 19:6
      So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” 

      • Don Dee

        And who says I should read the bible? Is that a requirement for me to be a citizen of this republic? Who says that the Philippines is a theocracy? Last time I checked it was a democracy. Go sell crazy somewhere else. I do not believe your magic potions. 

      • JanofVA

        God bless you….I hope he forgives your soul on your judgement day :)

      • Don Dee

        Oh I think the pedophile priests need more forgiving than I. And don’t worry about lil ol me, I prefer hell, if Catholic priests are in heaven. 

      • disqus_ZrxaGjUzMQ

         NOT EVERY GOOD CITIZEN FILIPINOS BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE SO STOP PREACHING YOUR BIBLE VERSES —U BELIEVE TOO MUCH OF SOMETHING CREATED BY JEWS

      • disqus_ZrxaGjUzMQ

         CRUSH CRUSH  THE PHILIPPINE CATHOLICS —
        YES ON GAY MARRIAGE BILL
        YES ON CATHOLIC CHURCH TAX BILL
        YES ON DIVORCE BILL

      • nakawan

        get bent you turd

      • boypalaban

        MR. DT TSUPAAN ANG GUSTO MO …MAY PA BILL BILL KA PA…

      • josefe38

        LAYAS ,DEMONYO !!!!!!!!!!!!

      • boypalaban

        AKO MAS NANINIWALA AKO SA YO…ANG LAKAS MO TSUMUPA E…

      • frudo

        racist

      • PurpleDaisy13

        JanofVA, obviously you do not read the Bible carefully.

        Jesus recognizes the Divorce as permitted by the Laws of Moses especially in cases of unfaithfulness:

        Matthew 19:8 –

        Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your
        hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.

        I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

  • Crysis_III

    Paano mo ba aayosin ang sira na pamilya?.. How will the children be protected if the father or mother left them… At least divorce proceedings will help the children and they will be protected with alimony and child support. 

    But we still need enforcement of strong family ties, pero hindi kasi tayo pareho lahat. May ibang tao na iba ang pananaw. May mga ugali na lumabas after the marriage. 

    Paano kung binubogbog ang asawa? Kahit sa salita lang pwede nang abuso yan. Kawawa ang asawa kung ganon…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S2UQGGNN35EUOBNX4N5OBIBDUM Kromuel

      “Paano kung binubogbog ang asawa? Kahit sa salita lang pwede nang abuso yan. Kawawa ang asawa kung ganon…” Basis na ng anullment yan. So kailangan ba ng divorce?, ang divorce just baits the idea that you can dump him or her anytime because you found someone better yougner or prettier. You can technically GET AWAY with adultery itch.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S2UQGGNN35EUOBNX4N5OBIBDUM Kromuel

    I have a better Idea, abolish marriage and just pass partnership contracts between man and woman, man and man, woman and woman or even human and animal. The idea I believe demolishes the idea of marriage itself. I am pro RH bill, but this is garbage, you don’;t play with marriage. Don’t get married if you are not committed to it, if there is abuse, violence, adultery, they are basis for ANNULMENT. Divorce is a temporary itch solution.

    • dragon27

      You might be misinformed about annulment. Abuse, violence and adultery are not automatic grounds for annulment, they are only proofs of “psychological incapacity” which must be proven to have existed prior to the marriage. It is costly as much as hard to get an annulment. You also need a lot of blaming and  fault finding in the other person such that any basis of amiable relationship is lost after annulment proceedings.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S2UQGGNN35EUOBNX4N5OBIBDUM Kromuel

        indeed, there is no such thing as automatic in law. Everything must be proven first, proofs for ”psychological incapacity” which is a basis for annulment. Now if your problem is that the procedure is COSTLY, where is the real problem? They are technically barking at the wrong tree. Something has to be AMENDED.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PABEYKXBDR7MAHBSJNGN7Y75SI Jose

    Seriously next election, we need lawmakers with brains and common sense.

    • xrisp

      And most importantly – FEAR IN GOD.

      • Don Dee

        Which God, you have to be more precise than that. You want to live under Shariah law? 

      • xrisp

        Are you an atheist? Just asking.

      • Don Dee

        No. But my belief in God is my personal business. Neither government nor society has a say on that. I have a personal relationship with God. And will not try to convince you or anyone else about my beliefs.

        ———-

        BTW, my previous rhetorical questions was merely intended to demonstrate to you that your requirement for “fear in God” is a very dangerous ingredient. People are killing each other in the middle east over that, if you haven’t heard. Politics and religion should remain separate. Otherwise, prepare to arm yourself and start massacering the children of your enemies.

      • xrisp

        …are you then a Christian? or what?

      • http://twitter.com/Sizzle75Ian ian martinez

        maybe he/she wants Philippines to become an advanced country, that’s all, this wil never come about with such powerful ( and immoral )  conservative lobby group

  • JanofVA

    It’s easy, if you don’t have the patience nor the commitment to stay in a marriage…then DON’T GET MARRIED..so you do not have to get divorced or separated…and please DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN… you will just ruin their lives.

  • edpoeto

    I admired Cong./Lawyer Rufus Roddriguez then as a staunch critic of GMA, now things have changed, really from RH bill to Divorce Bill. He is a changed man. Was it personal for him, maybe yes or he maybe would say, it’s my job in line with the stand of the opposition in the House. But politically, I don’t think he has any plans to run as a Senator or higher than that because if he has any plans, well he is ignorant of the statistics. More Filipinos are inclined to support the two Bills in Congress

  • bol_anon

    After posting this, I’m sending emails already to the three solons in my home province to support the Bill. Lobby!

    I was following a survey of a local radio station yesterday getting reactions from radio listeners on the approval of the RH Bill in both Houses of Congress, apart from the comments of a Catholic Bishop (assigned in Bicol), most of the respondents aired their elation for the passage of the legislative measure, 8:2. Makes me wonder why the Church insists on branding the RH Bill as DIVISIVE.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3FKARYE4FOLSWHNRCBKPN246RE carmelo

    As expected after RH, the following will be lobbied: Divorce, Same-sex Marriage with the right to adopt child/children, Abortion, Euthanasia, Death Penalty, Marijuana and other drugs. I may add Bigamy or Polygamy as this is already being practiced legally and illegally in the country.

    • JanofVA

       A politicians dream….they can divorce their wives…they can have legal abortion for their mistresses….smoke marijuana…and frame up their enemies so they can get the death penalty…what more can a politician ask for…

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        I agree. Not to mention marry their gay lovers.

      • KingKuppa

        politicians dont need divorce law, annulment is practically the same since they have money.

  • tilamsik

    Gayahin ang ibang pari.. patikim tikim na lang.. maski sa mga sakristan… 

    • boypalaban

      isa ka ba sa natikman? di ka ba binayaran?

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        Go, boypalaban! I’m right behind you!

      • Observer_din

        gusto mo pa tirahin sa likod si sir BOYPALABAN.. hehehehe

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        Ganiáng-ganián cabababoy ang utac ng mg̃a sumusuporta sa RH Bill. Tama yan. Ibulgar niyó pa ng tuluyan ang inyóng mg̃a tunay na culay. Sa lenguaje ninyóng maleducado cayó nabibisto. =)

      • Observer_din

        Sir BOY, type ka ni Pepe Alas sa likod mo daw siya, hehehe

  • JanofVA

    a

    • Don Dee

      Non-sequitur. We want a divorce law. That is not to say we want to emulate the US. Again, it is now ONLY the Philippines (aside from the Vatican) that does not have a divorce law. So by wanting a divorce law in place, you could have very well said the Philippines wants to emulate the REST OF THE WORLD (pretty much).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3NJ4IIZZMB2OMPIOR7X2B72ME k

    ibang klase din naman kasi ang turo at patakaran ng simbahang katoliko.
    1. bawal mag-asawa ang pari. bakit?paano naman ang seksual at emotional na pangangailan nya?tao din yan,may pisikal na pangangailangan..yung aso nga,hayop lang pero pag naghanap ng pangangailangan,di mapakali.yung tao pa kaya?2.walang divorce.ang pinagsama daw ng dyos ay di mapapaghiwalay ng tao.kung nagpapatayan na sa away,pilit pa bang dapat pagsamain?3.bakit may bayad ang kasal,misa,prusisyon ng pari,binyag,lamay,etc.di ba pwedeng donasyon lang?tax free pa ang perang pumapasok.

    • certainshadeofgreen

      1. Ba’t mo naman hinahalintulad ang tao sa aso, eh ang tao may talino at kapasidad na kontrolin ang kanyang sarili?

      2. Hindi ba isang pangako ang pagpapakasal, isang pangako kung saan “in sickness and in health, in good times or bad,” ay dapat matutong magtiis ang mag-asawa bilang pagpapakita ng kanilang tunay na pagmamahal? Ano na mangyayari sa buong konsepto natin ng pag-ibig, kung bibigyan natin ito ng “emergency exit,” imbis na turuan ang mga mag-asawa na subukang mahalin pa rin ang isa’t isa anuman ang mangyari? So pati ba ang pag-ibig ay ituturing di-pangmatagalan?

      3. Wala sa utos ng Simbahan na humingi ng bayad (kahit donasyon lamang) para sa mga sakramento ng pagpapakasal at pagbibinyag. Kung humingi man ang pari ng di-makatarungang bayad, kasalanan na ito ng isang indibidwal, at hindi ng buong Simbahang Katoliko.

  • geminimind

    Singles don’t have any problem.As the old saying goes, why get a cow when you can get the milk by the gallon.

  • SelmerMk6

    I am tired of hearing the cliche that women can do no wrong and that they are always the victims of a bad marriage.  The reality is that there also many married women in the Philippines, regardless of social class who engage in extra-marital affairs right under the noses of the unsuspecting husbands. If given the opportunity, these women will seek for a divorce when they are caught and will brand their husbands as abusers in one form or another.

    I’m just saying that marriage is a complicated thing.  It was never easy for my parents, who have been married for 57 years.  People change and often become a different person that the other married – it is human nature.  However, I am glad that they made many personal sacrifices for me and my siblings. Often times nothing is what it seems. Marriages will have to be sorted out through counseling and prayer. Divorce is an easy way to call it quits on your marriage.  

    Those who are for this bill should be consistent and encourage their children not to entertain the concept of marriage.

    • nakawan

      well said

    • Rap88

      correct.

    • Guest

       How many siblings do you have?

    • Jesse_Bruce_Pinkman

      On one note there, almost all married Filipinas who are working abroad engage in extra marital affairs, especially in the middle east. There’s an unwritten rule among Pinays: what happens in Dubai, stays in Dubai. Which is also true in several other countries like Kuwait, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Oman, etc etc.

      Women will cheat as easily as men do if they are given the chance.

      There is one Pakistani guy who fell in love with a Filipina. One day, the Filipina just broke it off like that. The Pakistani guy asked why. The Filipina shrugged and said “well, that’s all there is to it. And I am married”. The Pakistani guy was so devastated that he had a hard time pulling himself up. 

      Filipinas also got a taste for big cócks. Almost everywhere, you can see Filipinas being dragged behind an American, an Egyptian, a Lebanese, a Syrian, a Pakistani, an Indian, etc. etc. Americans call Filipinas “the little fúcking machines” in that Filipinas have a very western style when it comes to sex. I mean, they really know how to use their hands, mouths, and cúnts very well. You know, if you can take hostage of the dìck, you can make a man crazy. No wonder some cultures who are less exposed to western sex style,  like the people from the middle east, find Filipinas addicting and intoxicating. 

      I mean, it’s quite distressing to hear that Filipinas have become a global slút. Very few of them actually make cash out of it, otherwise, they’ll be called the global whóre. But it is how some part of the world see Pinays.

      The culture of the Philippines is so westernized that Filipinos are confused why many sectors in the society still want to push for very conservative agenda. Oppositions like this do not advance the interests of the Filipinos, it just makes them more hypocrite.

      • Nathanael Espino

        And your point is?

      • Jesse_Bruce_Pinkman

        My point is you are stupid.

      • redpula

        with respect you are in error in deducing your point, it is not a general rule, some may have done it but looking in a much bigger community, majority still has a conservative view on what you have discussed. percentage wise it will not even reach 10 percent of the population. if you have discuss and connote it with the Americans, then i will agree with you, but it does not necessarily mean that we are so westernized that it follows our women will do the same thing and a great number of our women will.

  • boypalaban

    pag naghubad na sila ng abito…isa isa mong isusubo kargada nila…

  • disqus_ZrxaGjUzMQ

    CRUSH CRUSH  THE PHILIPPINE CATHOLICS —
    YES ON GAY MARRIAGE BILL
    YES ON CATHOLIC CHURCH TAX BILL
    YES ON DIVORCE BILL
    YES ON MARIJUANA BILL

    NO MATTER HOW HARD THE CATHOLIC PUSH BACK WE WILL MARCH FORWARD NO MATTER HOW MANY YEARS IT TAKE US —- —PHILIPPINE  CATHOLIC CANNOT STOP US

    First gay-marriage proposal at White House

    A U.S Marine Corps captain makes history when he pops the question to his surprised boyfriend

    • xrisp

      Are you an atheist? Just asking.

      • http://twitter.com/Sizzle75Ian ian martinez

        maybe he is just  interested in progress and development of Philippines into a modern country

    • marivon

      pathetic

    • kuraratsa

      go go go go……sige para delubyo na sunod

    • boypalaban

      MUSTA MGA INABUSO MONG STREETCHILDREN, KAILAN KA BA MAHUHULI?

    • tunderlulo

      yes to rape yes to murder and everything basta kalaban lang katoliko. ogag

    • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

      Demonic statement.

    • josefe38

      LAYAS DEMONYO!!!!!

  • boypalaban

     ”but in the Catholic definition,men are allowed to sex outside the marriage and women not -”

    paki-cite kung saan nakasulat yan…

    • Observer_din

      oo mali siya Sir, sa catholic pati women are allowed..PIS :)  hehehe

  • i_am_filipino

    The divorce can have an impact on 1. More crimes – children with divorce parents are vulnerable to commit crimes because they will become rebellious, increase of students who dont go to school because children cant cope up being bullied, increase of DOH government budget because of health decline due to depression for both parents and children, more population growth as they could become like muslims, more burden for the DOJ because of divorce cases which turns lawyers and judges becoming rich and poor cant pay divorce paper leading to commit adultery. More abortion process when relations go wrong. Foreigners with filipina wife can take advantage as in the Philippines. I FULLY SUPPORT THE DIVORCE if they have answer on the above.

    • http://twitter.com/Sizzle75Ian ian martinez

      What is the difference between what you say about possible divorce and the current annulment only for the rich ?

  • $23257130

     mabuhay ang divorce bill.

    ang tunay na pag asa ng bayan!

    • boypalaban

       ikaw ang pag-asa ng bayan…sa yo nakikita kung bakit kailangan ang K-12…

  • entong238

    BELMONTE, YOUR PUSHING YOUR LUCK TOO FAR. YOU’RE TRULY A DEMON IN DISGUISE.

  • boypalaban

    dati si lagman ang pinupuri mo…ngayon sino naman?

  • boypalaban

    ISAMA MO NA RIN YUNG PABORITO MONG BILL…YUNG TSUPAAN BILL…

    • wakats

      Boy, bakit sobra hilig mo sa tsupa?  It’s very indecent to use them in this forum.

      • boypalaban

        bagay lang yan gamitin sa mga bastos din dito sa forum…
        enjoy nga sila e…                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       

  • josefe38

    Kanino naman galing yang definition na yan?? Ginamit nyo pa ang panagalan ng Catholic.

  • nakawan

    i guess the liberal party is really turning into a liberal party

  • kuraratsa

    isunod nyo KIRIDA LAW

    • wakats

      I like your idea Kuraratsa.  It’s high time the “kabits” should be glorified like guia gomez.
      assured ka na sa support ni jv, erap, jinggoy, etc. 

  • http://twitter.com/Sizzle75Ian ian martinez

    In countries with social security, the divorce bill allowed females to replace their husbands with the state, that is paid for with MAINLY MALE taxes. Before the divorce bill, divorces were 50/50 but now75% are initiated by females, and of the remainder, half are mutuall. The massive social security bill leap then caused a bill in “child support” , a euphemism for government clawing back money from fathers whose wives divorced them. Men were forced to pay for the stealing of THEIR OWN CHILDREN.
    Western governments then brought in secret family court systems and lowered the proof of “domestic violence” laws. Male rights were taken away.
    THIS IS ALL TO COME IN PHILIPPINES, fathers’ rights movements and males questioning WHY they are disposable to women etc. Men’s rights is the ultimate social movement

    • disqus_ZrxaGjUzMQ

      PHILIPPINE HAVE SOCIAL SECURITY TOO i send US4460 per year to my phil.  sss
      account so when i reach 62 yo.  i will have 2 social security checks from USA and from Philippine per month

      • boypalaban

         WAG KA NA MAGYABANG DITO…MALAMANG MAS MARAMI PA AKONG PROPERTIES KESA SA YO SA US…TSUMUPA KA NA LANG…AYN ANG TYPE MO…

      • kuraratsa

        hahaha

      • disqus_ZrxaGjUzMQ

         First gay-marriage proposal at White House

        A U.S Marine Corps captain makes history when he pops the question to his surprised boyfriend  HAHAHAHAHHA HINDI YABANG YAN INFORMATION YAN GA GO

      • boypalaban

        MUSTA MGA TSINUPA MO SHEMALE DT?

        WAG KA NA MAG-ANGAS DITO…

        WALA KAMING PAKIALAM SA SSS MO…

        KWENTO KA NA LANG NG MAIINIT NA GABI NINYO NG MGA LALAKE MO…

        ALIN BA MAS MASARAP SA PUTI O SA ITIM?

  • superlucky2

    Belmonte, sira ulo ka na ba? Yung killer sa Connecticut isa sa dahilang nya kaya na depress yung bata kasi nung nag file nag divorce yung parents nila. Oppose the divorce bill.

    • boypalaban

      noon pa matindi sira ng ulo niyan…

      kaya walang kwenta diyaryo niyan yung philippine star…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/N2XIJIGD574MSYODWRXZLVZ27Y Michelle

    You know what? I support the RH bill because it can be the defining point of our economy’s long term growth. But divorce bill? Then why marry if you’re not compatible? Dahil pwede naman mag-divorce later? I’m with the Church on this one. People need to be more logical in these things. Just because the US does it, doesn’t mean we have to emulate them. So IF RH and divorce bills will have been approved, sex and separation will be as rampant here as it is in other countries. Just you wait, stupid politicians. Legislate what is REALLY important for the economy. How can a high divorce rate improve the economy? Tell me. 

  • josefe38

    Laganap na talaga ang sapi ng mga kaABNOYan, kilan ba naging pag-asa ng bayan ang divorce law?  Ang isa naman gustong isulong ang gay marriage at marijuana bill. Natatawa nalang ako sa    takbo ng mga utak ng mga kasapi ng ABNOYmal. Lord, ikaw na po bahala sa bansang Pilipinas.

    • boypalaban

      bingiyan ko si Abnoy dati ng benefit of the doubt…baka mas matino kay gloriarrovowakana… masahol pala itong si kuluntoy abnoy…

    • http://ourleftfoot.blogspot.com/ Tristanism

      Dagukan ko yang lord mo e. :)

      • boypalaban

        dagukan mo na…bilis…at tsupain mo na si Belmonte…

      • http://ourleftfoot.blogspot.com/ Tristanism

        Hahaha. Nice.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NPV7TOHIJPG3UMTLQDTHLQJR7Y Jack

    liberal party – strike while the iron is hot

  • dorothyanne88

    legalize everything Belmonte rape, murder, killings, robbery etc, it’s what you people against the Catholic Church are so intentful of, Just to displease these bishops. Anyway with your line of thinking and evil thoughts legalizing all crimes is a defining moment in your life

    • xrisp

      Yes they can do all of them. They are LP – Law of Pnoy!

  • Bullet Train

    Usually it’s the husband who does not want divorce. Just look at how their eyes widen when they learned they have to sign the papers. Kaya gustong gusto to ng Gabriela e.

  • Rigoberto_Tigdas

    I am all the way for the divorce bill, but that’s as far as I can go.

    Sorry to all the gays and lesbians for spoiling the party, but I could not, and will not stomach same sex marriage. 

    • boypalaban

      gusto mo ng divorce bill para libre na kayo ng fafa mo…di ba fafa…o wag kalimutan condom….

      • Rigoberto_Tigdas

        boypalaman, there are a lot of important things and in-depth reasons behind divorce more than your brain cells can fathom.

        But nonetheless, I admire your resilience. I tot you had committed suicide after your humiliating defeat on RH bill issue. I advice you to take your medicine now, and move on with your miserable life.

      • boypalaban

        musta na mga fafa mo…o nagsimula ka na ba magcondom nang libre?
        kunwari ka pang ayaw ng divorce…utuin mo mga lalake mo!

    • kuraratsa

      ako din sir….di ko ma take same sex marriage hehe

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NIJVJK6TGAOH7CNC7VMWYHXYUM Anne

    Speaker Belmonte and Gabriela are you aware of the spate of killings in the US? Have you heard the recent Sandy Hook massacre? Mostly were done by people with divorced parents and parents na ilang beses nagsipag-asawa………. The latest of which ay may galit sa puso because of his parents’ divorce…………. you want that to happen here in the Philippines? You want to create monsters by endorsing the divorce law? Ano yun after 3 months na di magkasundo divorce na tapos asawa ulit? Duh????????????????

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    tama ung hinala ko…after RH DIVORCE NAMAN…

    AFTER DIVORCE, SAME SEX???

    ABORTION???

    EUTHANASIA???

    MGA SATANISTA, NAMAMAYAGPAG NA KAYO SA MUNDO…KAYO NA…!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/heart.hearty.18 Heart To Heart

    NO! NO! NO! Pag may divorce sa Pinas, wala na tayong pinag-iba sa ibang bansa! Pareho sa ibang bansa na WALA ang VALUE na FAMILY. YAN ANG GUSTO GUSTO NG IBANG BANSA SA ATIN DAHIL WALA DIVORCE SA PINAS! PROUD TO BE PINOY DAHIL FAMILY ORIENTED TAYO! BELMONTE KUNG WALA KANG MAGAWA SA BUHAY MO, AT GUSTO MO NG DIVORCE SA MARRIAGE MO, NOON PA SA U.S.A. KA SANA NG PAKASAL PARA MAY DIVORCE DOON. ANO ANG SILBI NG  HOLY MATRIMONY KUNG I-DIVORCE LNG PALA???????????? GUMASTO KA SA KASAL DIVORCE DIN ANG PUNTA! SAYANG ANG TALINO MO PA NAMAN BELMONTE! SAYANG ANG TALENT NA BINIGAY SAYO NI LORD, DISTRACTION SA BUONG PILIPINAS ANG PUSO AT ISIPAN MOM MR. BELMONTE.

  • disqus_ZrxaGjUzMQ

    First gay-marriage proposal at White House

    A U.S Marine Corps captain makes history when he pops the question to his surprised boyfriend

    • boypalaban

      at natuwa ka naman tsupador, tsupaero,

      wag ka nga pala mag-aangas na taga Tate ka…

      di mo kilala mga nagpo-post dito…

      ipagmayabang mo na lang kung nakakailang lalake ka bawat gabi…

  • wgd82

    I pity the family of the future… broken family, kids no dad or mom to look up to… soon we will encounter the same shooting incident that happened in the US… because of the misguided youth who grew up without family… 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NIJVJK6TGAOH7CNC7VMWYHXYUM Anne

    Most studies made on people with criminal records showed that they come from families kung saan ang mga magulang ay nagkaroon ng multiple partners………….. I believe because a close relative has been a juvenile delinquent dahil yung nanay at tatay niya mula ng naghiwalay papalit palit ng partners na pinapakita ang disgusto sa kanya……….. so divorce? Go ahead Mr.Belmonte………. go ahead Gabriela and put us in the headlines next to America………….

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    THIS IS THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHER COUNTRY…

    THEY START WITH RH…(cos rh will diminish the moral turpitude of citizenry)

    SO IT WILL BE EASY FOR THEM THESE SATANISTIC LAWS…

    THESE DIVORCE

    EUTHANASIA

    SAME SEX MARRIAGE

    ABORTION…

    THIS IS THE STRATEGY OF 99% COUNTRIES…

    INDEED, SATAN IS SO DEVIOUS…TALENTED THAT THESE TONGRESSMEN ARE SO WANTING TO BE DEVOURED…

    • Guest

      Either a divorce or an annulment still requires you to address issues of property division, spousal support and child custody. One of the differences between annulment and divorce is a matter of semantics: You are technically “unmarried” or “single” if you get an annulment but you are “divorced” if you get a divorce.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        y marry if divorce is only in ur mind…stupid mind!!!

    • Guest

      I am for divorce, euthanasia, abortion and civil partnership for gays and lesbians!

      Divorce: Fair and equitable division of assets.
      Euthanasia: Severely ill patient should be given the right to leave this earth without pain and suffering.
      Abortion: Only if the mother’s life is in danger.
      Civil Partnership:  Just a step below marriage only because the bible says that marriage is between a man and a woman.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        stupid stand

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    sa mukha pa lang ni belmonte, mala demonyo na…

  • UPnnGrd

    The divorce- bill will not become law in Pilipinas in the next 10 years.   DIVORCE LAWS is actually a financial transaction,  and when money is involved….    things get tough.

    DIVORCE LAWS actually results that partitioning of property  be determined by “generally-accepted guidelines/procedures”   which results in the high wage-earner  being ordered to pay monthly alimony for 7 or more years.  The bigger hit is that the government will require the high wage-earner to provide  monthly child-support payments even if the child is being taking care of by the other spouse.

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    MGA PRO RH…THEIR REASONING….

    TAYO NALANG ANG MAHIRAP AT WALANG RH SA BUONG MUNDO…EVEN SA ITALY MERON NA…KAYA IPASA ANG RH!!!

    NGAYON NAMAN ANG REASONING….

    TAYO NA LANG ANG BANSA NA WALANG DIVORCE, NEXT TO VATICAN…SO, WE SHOULD GO WITH THE FLOW…

    • disqus_ZrxaGjUzMQ

      AGREE — Crush & DEFEAT the PHILIPPINE  Catholics F O O L S

      • boypalaban

        CRUSH AND DEFEAT SHEMALE LIKE MR DT…PRETENDING TO BE MALE BUT ACTUALLY WANTS TO HAVE BOYS BESIDE HIM ALL THE TIME….PRECIOUS TIME WITH THE BOYS….

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        toinks

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/Z7SNCADHBVOKZIFVY52ZLVFG7Y My name Del free

      And where did you get the idea that pro-RH means pro-divorce? You are mentally diluted. Stop your craze please it doesn’t make sense.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        rh cracked the defense of what is good

    • frudo

      ano masama dun? mag asawa ka muna or umuwi ka sa PInas at observahan mo ang mga pamilyang Pinoy 

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        pwede na ang divroce para makarami….anyway, andiyan naman ang rh para mapigil ang pag anak sa number 2 wife, number 3, number 4…devious, planned by satan…hahaha

      • frudo

        mag asawa ka muna kasi at sure ako gagamit ka rin ng pills lalo na pag sampu na anak mo hangat di ka nagaasawa di mo maiintindihan kaparehas ka rin ng mga pari at bishop na walang asawa pero ang galing makialam sa buhay may asawa

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        never…and i knw how to control my body

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    AT ANG IBIBIGAY NA REASON NA NAMAN NG MGA BORN AGAINST TONGRESSMEN AT SATANISTANG ITO AY ANG MGA POBRE…

    • Vertumnus

      The poor cannot afford divorce.  They need both parents to provide whatever meager income they make to sustain their children.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        poor na naman ang dahilan….

        gasgas na yan sa rh…

    • boypalaban

      DAMI NA KASING TAO AT BAKA MAGKULANG NA NAMAN ANG CLASSROOM…
      DAMING NAGUGUTOM….DAMING NATUTULOG SA KALYE…
      DAMI NA NAMANG BINUBUGBOG NA ASAWA…BAKA SAKALING KUMONTI…

      MALAPITAN NGA SI DONAIRE….DAMI PERA NIYON….

    • frudo

      na nman satanista na nman ang mga papabor sa divorce bill at mga hindi pabor mga good. ganun na tlga tingin nyo sa ibang tao kayo lang ang nasa tama at ang iba mali ano ba yan

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        there will be no white if there is no black…choose!!!!

      • frudo

        patunayan nyo muna na kayo ang good bago ako pumili

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        ever since, u never heard my arguments and take it as is…so, patunayan???useless….

      • frudo

        di u lang kasi kaya i prove kaya ganun 

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        a man of no faith will never be sufficient/satisfy from any proofs

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S2UQGGNN35EUOBNX4N5OBIBDUM Kromuel

    Groom: “…..to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until DIVORCE do us part.”
    Bride: “Oh, that would be next month.”

  • Vertumnus

    The church is so out of touch granting annulment to people who wants to separate.  Church annulment in the Philippines is ridiculous.  A couple who has been married for years and have multiple children has to apply for an annulment just to separate.  That’s basically saying they were never married despite the fact that they consummated the marriage and bore children as a result.  Does that make any sense to anyone?  Legal separation with fair division of assets and equal custody of children should be implemented in the Philippines.  We talk about equality between men and women well here’s the issue that should even out the playing field.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/QU6HZDKGTLQ45DSIMMKRUUUMCE aeropostale

    stop selling our country to the devil. if you want to burn in hell, burn alone.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ITN3RZOUSPKRVQ6FCGJDOK3JYQ Joker

    As a compromise, divorse “may be allowed” than living in sin.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Z7SNCADHBVOKZIFVY52ZLVFG7Y My name Del free

    I am pro-RH Bill but Divorce Bill is another thing. I am not a fan of the idea that Pro-RH are also Pro-Divorce. THERE is a CLEAR distinction. Opponents of RH should not be too quick in categorizing PRO-RH as PRO-Divorce! We should be a progressive and not a mentally diluted nation incapable of seeing betond labels and categorizations. 

  • boypalaban

    Kung asawa ko si BRENDAMAGE… ok lang na may DIVORCE….

    • antonioluna

      hmmm… sa tingin ko, hindi mangyayari yan, kasi hindi ka nya papatulan… ayaw nya ng mas baliw sa kanya hahaha   uuuyyy, may hidden desire ka pala kay brenda ah, naimagine mo pang naging asawa mo hehe

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/AN2I7Q4CDDWYTAGCPXL2YN3XWY Rey

    P-Noy is a product of a Catholic School, Ateneo, run by the Jesuits.  His family is close to the,Jesuits, notably Fr. Catalino Arevalo, of late, the Jesuit-product Cardinal Tagle and Archbishop Villegas is also a family friend.

    Yet, P-Noy rammed the RH Bill via Congress to the Philippines even if it is against the teaching of the Catholic Church from which he is a product.  Do these big names have no moral influence on him at all?  Or do they tacitly approve of it themselves?  What is the position of the Jesuits on RH Bill?  It is a shame, they are only good for press release and photo-ops, but no moral persuasion at all on P-Noy.  What products does Ateneo produce by the way?

    Or, is P-noy really that bull-headed or fell trapped to the lure of money by the pharmaceutical companies and the first world countries (lenders, aid-givers) and all the “yes” congressmen/women” with him?  Shame on them too!  What gives?

    The Catholic Church lost the votes she aimed to quell the RH Bill.  That is good!  It is because it should not win by lobbying but her victory should come from the truth even if that truth is for the moment a victim of the tyranny of numbers.  She loses her witness if she treads on political grounds and becomes triumphalistic.  She shines when she is humbled, maligned and persecuted, lost in the eyes of the world.  That was the way of her Master.

    Now, the divorce bill?  We told you so…

    • xrisp

      God bless you Rey!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PZR7JI7G2WD2CTVMZ7LM667FD4 Ugly Bunny

    They’re NO different from previous admin if they neglect FOI and ANTI-DYNASTY BILLS.

    Hyping
    media by opening another controversial bill just to bury FOI and
    ANTI-DYNASTY. Very dissappointing Pnoy and Belmonte. I had high hopes
    because of what happened to RH Bill but this?! Don’t get me wrong, I too
    want a Divorce Bill but its just COMMON SENSE what they should
    prioritize first. DAANG MATUWID is GOOD GOVERNANCE hence TRANSPARENCY IS
    A MUST.

    That’s what you promised Pnoy!

    FOI and ANTY-DYNASTY NOW!
     

  • wakats

    RH and divorce are two distinct subjects and the pro-RH should not be confident that the latter is a “moon walk”

    Filipinos are family-oriented and children become an effective deterrence to separation.  Many cases in the US told of the negative effect of divorce to the children, many of them became society’s liabilities because of lack of parental love from mom & dad which are indispensable in their proper upbringing.

    Pia, chiz, koko, loren, etc maybe in for a good fight for a divorce bill but their number is so minute as compared to millions of Pinoys who love their children and family. 

  • $23228448

    The choice of whether to get an annulment vs. a divorce is a personal one, but you and your spouse must agree which legal procedure is best for you. Either a divorce or an annulment still requires you to address issues of property division, spousal support and child custody. One of the differences between annulment and divorce is a matter of semantics: You are technically “unmarried” or “single” if you get an annulment but you are “divorced” if you get a divorce.

  • Jesse_Bruce_Pinkman

    Instead of divorce, why don’t we come up with something truly original like a contractual marriage, say, a 3-year marriage contract? Anyway, when couples get married, they are getting a marriage contract and not a deed of marriage or a certificate of marriage. If the couple still wanted to stay married, then they could just file to renew it. Nothing will stop them if they still love each other. However, renewing of vows shall be voluntary and intentional. One party cannot press for a renewal unless the other party does not share the same intent. If one is so lazy to renew the contract, then one has no business being married.

    In the same light as touching the subject of property division, any property acquired during the period in which the contract remained binding shall fall under the category of conjugate. Any property acquired thereafter shall only be subject to provisions preserving the welfare of the offsprings. Any and all prenuptial agreements are outlawed. This must be taken as a measure to leverage against promiscuity.

    Having no divorce has worked for Filipinos all this time and they have been used to it. Divorce is not a good idea in that anyone who wishes to be separated cannot be divorced if the other party does not wish to let the other free. Not to mention that divorce is a messy, expensive, scandalous, and bitter affair.

    If we are going to dive into the desecration of marriage, we might as well introduce something that is entirely revolutionary. That way, when we say marriage, we really mean business and not just going with the bandwagon. And not much for “till death do us part”, but “until the contract expires”.

    • buttones

      Best way to avoid all this “desecration of marriage” you speak of is not to get married at all. At least four friends I have, have lived with their partners for years and years and for some reason are all extremely happy- if you ask them why they do not get ‘married’ they will answer- “Why” would this make us happier?”

      • Jesse_Bruce_Pinkman

        Well, we cannot totally discount the benefits of marriage even if it does not make us happier. Of course just as the old adage goes, education does not make a man learned, nor does marriage equate to happiness. I think you only asked the opinion of the guys. But if you perhaps had the opportunity to ask the women, the response might have been different. You even contend, albeit not conclusively, that your friends are extremely happy “for some reason”, which to me, sounds to you as if it was strange. So if we were to rephrase what you’ve said, substituting the phrase “for some reason” with “strangely”, this is what it would read.

        At least four friends I have, have lived with their partners for years and years and, strangely, are all extremely happy.

        Which, if you read, does not change the entire thought.

        So, if you don’t love anyone, why would you marry? But if you love someone, why not? If are not convinced that marriage brings extra happiness, don’t do it for that reason. Do it because in the future, if things get awry, it will protect the best interests of your children.

      • buttones

        Sorry about my use of ‘for some reason’, I don’t think that can be substituted by ‘Strange’ – that means odd, all I was saying they have reasons. I’m speaking as a woman by the way so my interaction with my friends does tend to lean towards the woman, I’m not saying that’s right but just the way things very often turn out. On love and marriage, no, I cannot see the point of having any sort of intimate relationship without the element of love in it. You say, given this love then “why not”- others might say “Why?”. If you believe this marriage will protect children of the future, I don’t think that’s necessarily true- at the end of the day, this union, marriage call it what you will, will either work or it won’t, or it will just become a routine, not exactly ecstatic, nor miserable either, and I suspect many couples, married or not stay together ‘for the sake of the children’ , it a bit sacrificial but quite responsible in a way.
        Let’s be honest, this love thingy, is really quite irrational….
        Some of us get really ‘lucky’ and we don’t have to really work at a relationship at all, it just fits, others have to work so much harder- I think couples in general should stop and think a bit more about taking on this lifetime commitment…babies and all…

      • ARIKUTIK

        Love in married existence ? That’s a youngters fantasy. I’m a man of normal type not like the one housed in Malacanang. The behavior of man in me is that he sleeps at night being tired of watching the same movie over and over again for the years gone by. When the day shines, this man of me rises up in watching stars of new movie by young generation swaying hips. It is excitingly hard to resist temptation but the young love who is not inviting anymore had taken care of children that matters most of all. Well, to sleep with one for years is already a lot of head ache. What is the need for another head ache. Just stick along with the children who will be the ones to bury me someday. No to divorce or else one’s burial will be a mess…… Merry Christmas

      • buttones

        There always exceptions-
        Senario: You arrive home every day from work and your wife is in bed with the cable guy [again], she steps out of bed, reaches under the bed for a baseball bat and beats the hell out of until you can barely walk- she’s spent the house keeping on vodka, the kids are crying, there’s nothing to eat but Twinkies,,,,this happens every day for four years…no end in sight-she promises not to do it again ..what you gonna do? [Bearing in mind she’s got 100lb over you and she used to be a cop]
        Wild scenario but it could happen….
        On men [or women for that matter] waking up one day and discovering the spouse in no longer twenty but fifty, and he/she wants a trade in for a twenty year old again – well…..
        Have a nice Christmas!

      • ARIKUTIK

        Is it wise to make law for the benefit of Exceptions ? If we craft laws in this manner then the Exceptions will become the rule. Take for example the RH bill. Almost 95 % of loving caring couples practice birth control on their own way (they have minds to safely know how. Only an Abnoy got no brain). Proof of the matter IS > the declining birth rate in PH. The RH promoters are now saying, its not only for the couples but for young unmarried sex curious not to become pregnant. Proof of the matter IS > the ammenment to limit RH pills for couples only was rejected. Un-married pregnancy is Exception ! Now that RH bill is to be enacted then sex outside marriage will become the rule. This analogy applies also if divorce is enacted into law. The rule is to stick together till death do us part for the sake of children and family. Divorce will change the rule into “Not to stick together” such that the exceptions will become the rule. As`regards to adulterous creature with baseball bat. This kind of creatrures doesn’t need marriage or divorce for the simple reason that they are adulterous.

      • buttones

        Of course it is right to make Laws for exceptions! Sex outside marriage will become the norm? Well in PH it actually is, there is many a girl gone down the aisle pregnant as well, and many a young kid sitting in the pews watching his mother and father get married as well- and this is well before this new Bill. And if I might add a personal note here my grandfather was actually a priest, and ’well respected” at that – [and quite wealthy as well oddly enough, and thanks to him]
        Of course the amendment to limit RH Bill to couples was rejected – you say un- married pregnancy is an exception? Where you at man?
        Your last sentence I didn’t understand at all…

      • ARIKUTIK

        It’s alluring to view someone’s thoughs that tickles a man to flung deeper into a womans soul who reveals > ” girl gone down the aisle pregnant and young kid sitting in the pews watching his mother and father get married” That is absolutely true vission which proves that a child will force the couple in love sex to get married. It’s one way how ladies can catch slippery men. The RH bill promotes un-married sex through pregnancy defying contraceptive pill. The natural ladies tool of imprisoning a man through pregnancy is now taken away by RH pills. This means, no more marriage, no more pregnancy, just Pak arround with anyone, anyplace anywhere. RH bill promotes sex maniacs wallowing in pit of immorality.   

      • Jesse_Bruce_Pinkman

        Yeah, you’re right. Nobody can really tell if this love thing will last forever. And since people might be predisposed into divorce, in that they think they might fall out of love at some point time in the future, I think the best solution here to avoid lengthy, costly, scandalous, and messy divorce proceedings would be to make marriage contractual. Yes, I know they’re getting a marriage contract when they get married, but by contractual, I mean there is only a certain period within which marriage will remain binding, and it is not forever as in “till death do us part”.

        According to a US report, 50% of 2nd marriages (1st marriage was dissolved through divorce), end up in divorce. 60% of 3rd marriages (1st and 2nd marriages dissolved through divorce) end up in divorce. I don’t know to what extent they have covered this study but it shows that as you marry more, you are getting good at getting divorced.

        For example, there are 100 individuals (both men and women) who get married, 35% will file for divorce (according to a US study). This 35 divorcees will get married and 50% will be divorced. The 17.5 divorcees will get married and 60% will get divorce (10.5). That leaves us 7 individuals who would either stay together or get divorced.

        Although divorce is available for everyone, not everyone is taking advantage of it because it seems they love their spouses. If we made marriage contractual, those who want to remain married may renew their vows. Those who don’t may choose not to. And we don’t have to go through a very expensive and messy process just to be not with each other.

      • buttones

        Interesting statistics- conclusion being the more you get married the more you get divorced, no? My idea was that if your actually didn’t get married, then clearly you are not going to get divorced either, and you are not a statistic to be bandied about and used for whatever reason. Having said that, clearly there must be people who are not married, living together, happy or not, having kids and breaking up as well- now the question is what is that statistic, is it more or less, is it the same, and does formal marriage encourage people to stay together?. I don’t think it does, as I said this ’contract’ signed or otherwise, is going to work or it won’t.
        Your idea of a sort of ‘renewable’ contract is not a bad idea, [in civil marriage at least-} in certain Church circles that is going to go down like a lead balloon..
        Really, when you look at this subject of ’love’ - the very thing that brings people to altar, it’s irrational, the odds against anybody finding a life partner [to be married or not] are just ridiculous- I do not suggest people try on new partners like trying on new shoes to get the best fit- what I do advocate is people ’looking before they leap’ – to take ones time before deciding what is supposed to be a lifetime commitment, and to ignore the social pressures [in my country] that almost demand a marriage and offspring. It takes a long time to know somebody, to do that in the confines of contract you cannot get out of is, maybe a breach of Human Rights- your term contracts make more sense..
        Some of us just fall lucky, and that’s really all it is- statistically speaking the odds of a guy or woman finding his ‘ideal partner’ for life are a bit bleak…
        On this note, and on this day that we were all really not supposed to be here anyway- I will have to go and do my Christmas shopping- I was hoping to save the expense but there you go… Have a nice Christmas!

  • tukmoldinako

    sunod sunod nayan RH Bill , after divorce , legalization of abortion, then same sex marriage bill,  hay naku gumagaya lang tayo sa mga kano, wala ng value ang morality, walang sariling kultura , walang maipagmamalaki, sabagay para narin tayong muslim pwede nang magasawa ng walo at lalong bumilis ang pagdami natin, nasaan ngayong ang adhikain ng RH Bill, lol

    Hay ganyan lang ang buhay, marunong tumanggap ng pagkatalo, he he he he

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Z7SNCADHBVOKZIFVY52ZLVFG7Y My name Del free

    There is a BIG tendency for divorces being a ground for female abuse against the husbands. (and vise versa) Properties, assets and emotional distress to children and husbands might result. There are already existing laws against violence against women and child protection—and to make things fair there are also laws against female abuse against males. Yet as far as RH BIll is really beneficial after a decade of debates and studies Divorce is another thing that requires thorough analysis. I am afraid that this political climate might lead to a frenzy of the so called liberal thoughts. Remember we are Filipinos and that doesnt mean we are necessarily against these but we ourselves as a nation should also craft these idea of divorce into something that will really fit and benefit us. We can customize it anyway. It is so easy for a bastard/gold digger and unfaithful woman with children to take advantage of a working man simply by not doing her duties well and creating a disharmonious relationship in the family leaving the husband with few assets and the woman carrying the children and wealth. Well that’s miserable. Same thing for evil husbands who’don’t like their wives because of other women and act unrulingly so that they will be divorced by their wives. Divorce is really something of a double-edged sword either you use it for your own evil intentions or for those who are victims of unhappy marriages. I don’t think it will promote something good at all.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1638222431 Martin Mascariñas Tajale

    Now that the RH Bill has been passed, what will stop the rest of the D.E.A.T.H.S.
    (Divorce.Euthanasia.Abortion.TotalPopulationControl.HomosexualMarriage.SexTradeLegalization) advocates from pushing their way. With the passing of this bill (which the Catholic church had been strongly opposing), Catholic people who are against the legalization of divorce can no longer effectively stand on the moral ground of the teachings of the church and use it to oppose arguments on divorce because they will be destroying their own credibility because of possible double standard — divorce advocates will surely accuse them of using church teachings to oppose legalization of divorce while on the case of the RH bill they were against their own church’s teachings.

    The signing into law of the RH bill will open the floodgate of the sooner-or-later legalization of the rest of the culture of D.E.A.T.H.S.

    In some sectors of our society today, there is a ‘”silently” growing concern on the issue of legalizing abortion in our country as the next step after the RH bill shall have been signed into law. Abortion advocates claim it is a woman’s human right, and therefore it must be legalized and should have in fact been part of the provisions of the RH bill, according to these advocates. Now on what moral ground will some Catholics, who favor the Artificial Contraception Methods instead of the Natural Family Planning Method (By the way, F.Y.I., the church is never against Family Planning. What the church is against are the methods which are contrary to the Natural Law of which artificial contraception is a violation.), hold to oppose the legalization of abortion. They will surely be laughed at by abortion advocates if they use the church’s moral teachings to oppose abortion.

    If only the Catholics were of one strong voice in opposing the artificial methods of the RH bill, then they would supposedly have also one strong voice to stand against the legalization of abortion (and the rest of the D.E.A.T.H.S. culture) in our country.

    • Vertumnus

      You can’t stop progress!  Either you get on board or you get left behind.  You’re choice!

      • boypalaban

        anong progress diyan?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

      • Vertumnus

        If you can’t see it, then you’ve already got left behind!

      • boypalaban

        hahahaha…

        galing ng progress mo…

        yan ba ang bagong konsepto ng progress?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PZR7JI7G2WD2CTVMZ7LM667FD4 Ugly Bunny

    They’re NO different from previous admin if they neglect FOI and ANTI-DYNASTY BILLS.

    Hyping media by opening another controversial bill just to bury FOI and
    ANTI-DYNASTY. Very dissappointing Pnoy and Belmonte. I had high hopes
    because of what happened to RH Bill but this?! Don’t get me wrong, I too
    want a Divorce Bill but its just COMMON SENSE what they should
    prioritize first. DAANG MATUWID is GOOD GOVERNANCE hence TRANSPARENCY IS
    A MUST.

    That’s what you promised Pnoy!

    FOI and ANTI-DYNASTY NOW!

  • Guest

    Belmonte and like-minded ones should wait for several years. Even if in 2011 Malta had introduced divorce (and only also because of a non-minding referendum), the Philippine society still has not reached that stage yet. That is said just to paint a more realistic, unbiased picture.

    Besides, actually this divorce issue is only a one for the non-Muslims. Muslims (just 5% of the population) have it already since the time the family code was introduced in 1950. 

  • FORTHE GOOD

    The headline is effective in jolting people out of their boring and
    monotonic day. But the catch is on the 3rd paragraph when it said that
    belmonte admitted that divorce bill will have to wait, for now.

    Nevertheless, it would be good to start the debate.

    I for one is in favor of divorce. I grew up watching my parents
    quarrel oftentimes. not a week would pass without a big fight. I can not
    forget shivering in fear everytime I hear my father’s booming voice as
    me and my 2 siblings stay still in the adjoining room. I was the eldest
    son. Looking back, I can just imagine how scared my younger brother and
    sister could have been.

    I dont want other kids to experience that. With that kind of
    environment growing up, no wonder I have psychological issues that I now
    live with. My sister has her own issues. The worst effect is on our
    youngest… sad what happened to him. our family carries the burden
    everyday.

    • buttones

      I have no doubt your tale can be told a thousand times, I see and hear this every week, the shouting and screaming, the little children crying- they will carry this through their entire lives- and I’ve seen a repeat past on from generation to generation. Having said that, I believe that people enter into marriage, and parenthood as well completely ignorant of what they are taking on. But there is also cultural and family pressure to do these things- a twenty five year old woman with no kids and no husband? OMG! What IS WRONG with her?

  • disqus_ZrxaGjUzMQ

    Mabuhay MARIJUANA – POT  are NOW LEGAL IN COLORADO STATE  AND WASHINGTON STATE

    THANK YOU OBAMA

    Obama’s statement Friday
    provided little clarity in a world where marijuana is inching ever so
    carefully toward legitimacy. In an interview with ABC’s Barbara Walters,
    he said that federal authorities have “bigger fish to fry” when it
    comes to targeting recreational pot smokers in Colorado and Washington.
    Third District Supervisor Mark Lovelace said the federal
    pressure interferes with the ability of local governments to reduce harm
    by regulating dispensaries. ”I would welcome any movement from
    the feds that would allow state and local government to regulate
    marijuana,” he said. “Even better would be to see not just a hands-off
    approach, but … a cooperative approach.” DESTROY PHILIPPINE CATHOLICS INFLUENCE

    • boypalaban

      DO NOT FOOL US SHEMALE DT…

      YOU DO NOT WANT TO SMOKE MARIJUANA…

      WHAT YOU WANT IS TO SMOKE SOMEONE ELSE’S P—S….                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  

      • antonioluna

        mukhang may bago ka namang ipaglalaban ah… hahaha babawi ba?

      • frudo

        uu babawi sila

      • boypalaban

        wala akong pakialam sa botohan diyan ng mga gunggong mong panginoon…kahit magkandamatayan na yan sa pag approve ng kahit anong bill, di ko concern yan…ang mahalaga ma-expose ang mga pananamantala…at mga engot na gaya mo….

        pekeng anti-gloria…move on ka na….isubo mo na ang kargada ni mikey angas kabayo…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Z7SNCADHBVOKZIFVY52ZLVFG7Y My name Del free

    I don’t think that “divorce at your leisure choice”will be passed at all. Yes the Catholic church failed to prevent RH because many of us believe that this is the right thing to do. But Divorce bill is something against some powerful groups out there and it so happened the Catholic church IS ALSO against this divorce bill….

  • disqus_ZrxaGjUzMQ

     Pot parties pop up in Washington as new law legalizing marijuana takes effect

    • boypalaban

      MAGNANAKAW NG LAKAS…SANA MAY BATAS PA RIN NA LEGAL NA MAGNAKAW NG LAKAS ANG KAGAYA MO…                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       

  • disqus_ZrxaGjUzMQ

    CCOLORADO: Pot smokers formally gained the right to light up in Colorado
    on Monday as Governor John Hickenlooper signed into effect a
    controversial ballot measure legalizing marijuana for adult recreational
    use in what proponents hailed as a “historic day.” Hickenlooper’s
    signature, largely a formality, made Colorado the second US state after
    Washington to legalize recreational pot use, and put it on a possible
    collision course with the federal government – which calls marijuana an
    illegal drug. “Voters were loud and clear on Election Day,” Hickenlooper
    said in a statement released by his office. “We will begin working
    immediately with the General Assembly and state agencies to implement
    Amendment 64.” The ballot measure, approved by a margin of 55 percent to
    45 percent, amends Colorado’s constitution to legalize the personal use
    and possession of up to an ounce (28 grams) of pot by adults 21 and
    over.

  • troyg318

    Asawa ni Bigote ang isa sa mga susuporta jan para ma dispacha na nya yung mangongopya sa senado.

  • yesyesyo

    As usual the philippines is left in the dark ages. the only country in the world without divorce.

    If children are exposed everyday to fightings, wranglings, shouting
    bouts, and physical violence of their parents, they have the higher
    probability of becoming violent persons themselves.

    I would be more worried for children exposed in a hostile environment
    like that compared to children who are in the care of a guardian in a
    peaceful environment. The guardian could be one of the parents, or the
    grandparents, or closest relatives.

    Divorce makes sense.
     

    • boypalaban

      galing ng analysis…

      pwede ba kitang makuhang speaker para sa panukalang divorce…

      daan ako mamaya mental hospital e…baka may suggestion ka….

  • KingKuppa

    you can be pro-divorce law but anti-divorce, let people decide

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/53Q34PZZZEYEXDUHIA6VA72HNM karenina

    Grabe naman itong article na ito. Sobrang sensationalized. Mabuti if all the readers read through it thoroughly or at least the first few paragraphs which hints na its not anytime soon. I am so disappointed with inquirer.

  • KingKuppa

    but it would be tough to pass a divorce law here.  men would rather want mistress/girlfriends on the side than to remarry.  anyway annulment is practically like divorce, albeit expensive

  • Seaflip

    Let’s legalize polygamy too, I will be constructing a harem in my hometown next year!!

    • Don Dee

      It is LEGAL. Kung Muslim ka, you are allowed to have multiple wives. Wag basta hihirit. Medyo mag isip muna.

      • boypalaban

        siguradong multiple wives?
        alam mo ba kung hanggang ilan lang?

      • Don Dee

        I am not sure kung hanggang ilan ang limit. But more than one is MULTIPLE. And I know that Muslims can marry more than one.

      • frudo

        hangang apat basta kaya niya suportahan ng pntay pantay 

    • buttones

      Can we girls have harems as well? Oh goody goody!

      • Seaflip

        Sure! be glad to be one of your harem boys, LOL!

      • buttones

        I shall call you ‘Number Eight’– he he !

    • boypalaban

      kunwari ka pa…child abuse ang habol mo lang talaga…

  • disqus_ZrxaGjUzMQ

    Colorado law will ultimately permit
    cannabis to be commercially grown and sold by statelicensed producers
    and distributors, and to be taxed, in a system modeled after those used
    in many states for alcohol sales. For now, it remains illegal to buy or
    sell marijuana in any quantity in Colorado. But the governor ordered
    creation of a task force to recommend details of a sales-andtaxation
    plan for the state legislature to pass in the near future. “This is a
    truly historic day. From this day forward, adults in Colorado will no
    longer be punished for the simple use and possession of marijuana,”
    Amendment 64 spokesman Mason Tvert said in a written statement. “We
    look forward to working with the governor’s office and many other
    stakeholders on the implementation of Amendment 64.
    We are certain that this will be a
    successful endeavor and Colorado will become a model for other states to
    follow,” he said. John Walsh, US Attorney for Colorado, said in a statement that the US Department of Justice was reviewing the Colorado and Washington measures

    • buttones

      Sorry but what has this got to do with divorce? On your topic- is Amendment 64 such a bad thing?

  • disqus_ZrxaGjUzMQ

    The phones have been ringing off the hook at Blue Horizon Medical, a Levin Road clinic where doctors can authorize patients for medical marijuana.

    On Thursday, the day Initaitive 502 took effect and it became legal
    for Washingtonians to possess up to an ounce of pot, the clinic received
    dozens of calls from prospective patients. The surge was welcomed, but
    “it’s certainly not what we expected,” Blue Horizon owner Ezra Eickmeyer
    said.

    • boypalaban

      tira pa….ooooh shotgun……aaaah….lakas tama…..aaaaaah

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Z7SNCADHBVOKZIFVY52ZLVFG7Y My name Del free

    Even if Philippines legalized divorce we will not allow such to happen inside our church. There are many churches in the Philippines and the most powerful ones aren’t for divorce. In Christianity It is against the will of God. The State being responsible for those who are Christians, Muslims, atheists, agnostics and many others then it should look at the welfare of all its constituents. But because we are a democratic republic the numbers will have a strong influence. But as far as the big religions are concerned they will of course voice out their concerns against divorce for the protection of their members. The Catholic church ideally should have a tight moral grip upon her members, to guide them all through life about the sanctity of marriage, to take care of their members but because many families fail to reconcile their differences, parents became addicted to gambling and drinking, adultery, or aren’t really ready for it have entered into a relationship that is almost destined to fail in the first place such as unwanted pregnancies, sadly, it seems that THEY have lost it. Unlike RH BIll where some big and powerful religions directly clash with the Catholic’s teachings Divorce is something where the major religions in the Philippines is solidly against..

    16 ”I hate divorce,” says the LORD God of Israel  –Malachi 2:16

    • Seaflip

      If the country’s will to favor divorce gets translated into laws, your church cant do anything about it except to suffer heartburn and diarrhea. 

    • Raymund Berja

       Matthew 19:9English Standard Version (ESV)

      9 And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”[a]
      Footnotes:Matthew 19:9 Some manuscripts add and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery; other manuscripts except for sexual immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery

      • http://Yahoo.com/ Ragdeleafar

        That should be applicable to women also? Who ever marries a divorced man commits adultery. Much more if both are divorced then re-marries!

    • PurpleDaisy13

      re: “In Christianity It is against the will of God.”

      Wrong.

      Although the Lord God may hate evil, the Lord God created evil and does not forbid evil.

      Just as the Lord God may hate divorce, but the Lord God created divorce and does not forbid divorce My_name_Del_free:

      Deuteronomy 24:1 –

      “If a man marries a woman who becomes displeasing to him because he finds
      something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of
      divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house
      ,”

      Even Jesus recognizes that Divorce is permitted by the Laws of Moses especially in cases of sexual immorality:

      Matthew 19:9 –

      Jesus said “And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      No problem: people can get civil unions so that they can be divorced and get remarried in the State’s eyes.

      I don’t think Churches should be forced to do things they don’t want, but I don’t think they should be allowed to restrict other people’s rights either.

  • buttones

    I believe that PH is the only country that does not permit divorce? I cannot see what is wrong with being able to get a divorce. People make mistakes, they get into abusive relationships, the women are open to marital rape, or both sides are just simply utterly miserable- it is a Bill I would support. Divorce is not the thin end of the wedge that erodes a societies moral values and leads on to anything else.

  • disqus_ZrxaGjUzMQ

    Harry Calhoun, of Bremerton, also a nonuser of cannabis, said he
    believes marijuana use will increase as people use it to “self-medicate
    problems.”

    However, “I would rather be around a person who has used marijuana
    than someone who has drank too much,” he points out. “At least with
    marijuana, you just get laid back and the munchies. I have seen people
    who drink get violent.

    • boypalaban

      divorce pinag-uusapan dito hindi yung itinutulak mong marijuana….

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Psiitoon Charoenkrung

      both are bad so no use comparing them

  • blainz

    Way overdue. This law is desperately needed mostly by women in abusive marriages.

    People who assert the country isn’t ready yet should provide an argument why the country is the only one without a divorce law (the Vatican is an irrelevant exception). It’s hard to believe we are really more culturally backward on this issue than all African nations. Also, Filipino Muslims already have divorce – if Muslims can have it, why can’t non-Muslims?

    As the RH bill has been passed, it’s time for Filipinos to introspect upon aligning our laws against reinforcing cultural hypocrisies. Much of what passes for anti-divorce arguments rely on moral hysterics and patronizing evasion.

    That being said, the passage of the RH bill thru the bicam panel and the FOI bill has to be prioritized over this. Let the candidates’ stand on divorce be raised as an election issue.

    Perhaps it should also be considered if the divorce bill can be placed on a referendum, to avoid congressional/senatorial obstructions. Same with the anti-political dynasty enabling laws.

    • http://twitter.com/Sizzle75Ian ian martinez

      Blainz, if you personally were in an abusive marriage, i am very sorry for you and i comiserate very much.  But as usual you ONLY think of yourself and do not consider males, who are also in abusive mariages . NOTHING IS EVER MENTIONED OR HIGHLIGHTED ABOUT MALES like this , if you are attacked by your wife at night, or with weapons or by proxy, the police will laugh  at you and due to feminist laws in Philippines, the man has a high chance of being arrested himself. You are WRONG about it only applying to females, men are much much more likely to put up with a bad marriage and given the anti male laws. In the west, if a man divorces, his wife will almost always get the children, the house, the car, just because of his genital type. In the west, nearly all divorces are initiated by the women, because they know they will win and a whole matrairchal underclass has formed with terrible conseqiences of feral kids,no male role models.
      Yes my wife atacked me in front of my twin sons because i refused to buy her something, and she threated to cut my fingers off at night and kill me, but i guess you thnk women are all sweetness and spice.
      As  i wrote in  a previous post, these divorce laws are a slippery slope for men and in the west these laws were the start of SERIOUS loss of our rights, but the start of the men’s rights movement that will one day correct the terrible imbalances that have resulted from these divorce laws.
      I agree with most of your views, but you just do not seem to understand that mens rights will follow womens rights and it is MEN who are actually the ones who have least rights, all obligations. But of course, you dont care, you are not really used to men stamdng up for themselves

      • LuwigVonMises

        yes there are lots of serious consequence of making law even though they were made with the best of intentions. like when US banned alcohol, who would have predicted that it was the one responsible for the creation of the mafia gangsters and also the drug cartels in mexico who killed millions over the years in the most brutal way men, women, and children simply because of the drug law. now the US is slowly legalizing drug because of this consequences.

      • http://twitter.com/Sizzle75Ian ian martinez

        as long as divorcing women do not get substantial security payments afer divorce and realise that there are CONSEQUENCES to their actions and they held accountable, this will be OK. but that is what has happened in the west, divorce – high social security for single women – government rcouping SS from divorced men – men loss of rights,persecution by law.
        ALL DESPITE MOST TAXES BEING PAID BY MEN, or, of course that IS the reason.
        Good post Ludwig,

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6RVU5BKVNFC5OM4NQZ66CX26QY Fratzescos

    nakauzap ko ang isang greek sa europe at tinanong ko sya kung nakabuti ba ang divorce o hindi sa kanilang bansa o pamilya. ang sabi nya sa akin ay hindi ito nakabuti kasi kung divorce ang magulang gagayahin din daw ito ng mga bata. kaya majority ng pamilya sa kanila ay divorce ang pamilya at mga anak nun nagsipagasawa at labis na nakaapekto sa mga behaviour ng mga bata habang ito ay lumalaki. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZNY7QZZDDBH4EBGB5ZS4IOUATE mave

      Anu sa palagay mo gayahin nung ng mga bata yong divorce o gayahin nila yong pag bobog2x sa asawa or nanay nila? 

  • Amboy123

    Annulment costs between 100,000 – 150,000.  This proposed Divorce bill, sana naman between 1,000 and 5,000 pesos lang. lol….at wala ng abogadong involve!

    • Don Dee

      Yep, precisely. Right now, marriage fee is 300 Php (although extra expense yung mga other documents), plus pancit para sa court employees :D. Dapat ang divorce somewhere close to it. Divorce is nothing more than settling the legal/financial issues of two people who have or want to get separated. I really don’t see anything wrong with that. At least, kung merong divorce, merong korteng magsasabi na the child is entitled to this amount financial support every month, etc., etc. Whether or not merong batas, sometimes nagkakahiwalay ang mga mag asawa. Anong gusto ng RCC? Bahala na si batman mag decide magkano gusto nyang i-surrender kay ex-esmi bilang suporta sa anak nila?

  • disqus_ZrxaGjUzMQ

    n another sweeping change for Washington, Gov. Chris Gregoire on
    Wednesday signed into law a measure that legalizes same-sex marriage.
    The state joins several others that allow gay and lesbian couples to
    wed.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Psiitoon Charoenkrung

      Thats why the US is continually besets with mass murders because of these ungodly lawmakers.

  • billy gunner

    yehey! naloko na!

    • Francis81

       Siguro may nagustuhan si Pweenoy na babae na may asawa kaya pinapatulak niya itong divorce?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/NKMLL6HD6WUINN5XQWNKKQDFEA Edwin Edwin

        hahaha iba talaga pag gumagamit ng rugby natutuyo ang utak….

        Bagong taon na iwasan na ang kakasinghot ng rugby kaya kung ano-ano ang napasok sa utak mong tuyot eh….

      • boypalaban

        dati ba type niya mga lalake?

  • disqus_ZrxaGjUzMQ

    This is a big day because all our lives we’ve been living under the iron
    curtain of prohibition,” said Hempfest director Vivian McPeak. “The
    whole world sees that POT prohibition just took a body blow.

    • boypalaban

       kanina ka pa puro banat ng marijuana…

      o sige na…tira ka pa…walang pumipigil sa yo….

      meron ditong rolling paper…pinangpunas ko sa puwet, pwede mo gamitin…

      marijuana con ebak….hahahahahaha

  • Seroquel55

    This is rubbing salt to fresh wounds. P.Aquino administration is courting real danger here.  This is also a real challenge for the Catholic Church as well as other churches that opposed divorce to muster their forces and fight to defeat the bill.  If they fail then it is a sign of religious  decadence in the Philippines. This may be good for the country if civil ethics will prevail over religious ethics, just to have a neutral ground..  The only problem is when civil ethics as embodied by the civil servants is corrupt and perverted.  It will not only be a religious decadence but a national decadence.  The Filipino will just lose his soul.

    • Don Dee

      Asus, real danger. At sino tinakot nyo? Go ahead, mag civil disobedience kayo. I double dare all you who subscribe to these BS moralist standards of the bishops! Go ahead, I double dare you. Nang makita nyo na wala kayong pwersa.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Psiitoon-Charoenkrung/100001362990665 Psiitoon Charoenkrung

        don’t try to challenge a sleeping giant and it will just be like Japan waking up the giant US in WW2 which led to the final defeat of Japan in the war

      • Don Dee

        Like I said, go ahead. I double dare you.

        Ano? All huff no puff?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002442255962 Lovely Chelsey

        i triple dare you yehey panalo RH bill next Bill Divorce para madivorce ko n un baliw ko asawa hurray

      • Renan Galang

        -

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZNY7QZZDDBH4EBGB5ZS4IOUATE mave

      anu naman danger dun? eh di sana nasira na din ang pamumuhay nang ibang bansa na merong divorce?

    • Renan Galang

      religious decadence? do you even know what decadence means? if the divorce bill passes, then it is simply a sign that people are moving away from the church. The church is slowly moving into political irrelevance. That doesn’t
      mean its teachings are wrong or ‘bad’. It just means the populace is shifting to agnostic, ethical, religiously neutral values/solutions, instead of ones based on millenia-old teachings. I’m not sure why that should be a problem for Catholics everywhere. Your faith in your God does not require others to believe in Him as well. Do you have such low confidence in your faith that you require others to make it valid?

    • $31594090

      Try to make some senses on your logic.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OLEMC35P773NMR5SSXFS4QHTYA Danae

    Go ahead and erode further our values….Juvenile Delinquency Law, RH Bill and among the  others…Does passing this RH BILL will lessen out the corruption and get children out of street and will create more jobs here in our country?..Let see if this RH BILL will become a law, does the government has it’s IRON WILL to implement it…Hahay!!! puro salita lng ang mga ito at pawang sa papel lng naman ang kalalabasan nito…Ang mga babaye daw ang mas may pakinabang dito..WEEEHHHH, eh sariling HEALTH CENTER wala nga basic na gamot para sa sakit ng tiyan at lagnat pero may budget sa PILLS, IUD at kung ano-ano pang contraceptives….THE MAIN REASON WHY WE ARE POOR, it is because of the UNEQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH FROM THE AFFLUENT SIDE TO THE MARGINALIZED SIDE…c JUAN AT c MARIA dela CRUZ naman daw ang nasa isip ninyo kaya you enacted such BULL CRAP BILLS…How PATHETIC we are poor and illiterate people of the REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES lagi na lng ginagamit ang pagka.illiterate natin sa bagay-bagay na sila lng daw ang mas nakaka.alam.

    • Renan Galang

      bakit ayaw nyo bigyan ng option yung mga couples na unhappily married and do not believe in the teachings of the catholic church? Sabihin nating pumasa yung batas na divorce. kailngan bang i-honor yun ng simbahan? Hindi. Hindi nga nag hohonor yung simbahan ng annulment. Sa mata ng batas, ang divorced couple ay hindi na kasal. Sa mata ng simbahan, kasal pa din sila, therefore hindi sila pwede mag pakasal ulit sa simbahan. Pero pwede sila magremarry, legally. Your values are to follow and to keep as you please, just don’t impose those on us.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OKC53SVPRIE3IXH34V7RDHLGQM James

       We are poor because of “unequal distribution of wealth…”?  And how do you propose to equalize wealth? Order those with money to give it to those who do not? In which case, I will certainly bum around and do nothing and wait for this wealth to be distributed.  

      • boypalaban

        galing…super galing ng pakaintindi mo…
        bakit di ka na lang uminom ng lason…baka makahawa ka pa?

      • braindead_91

         There are things that we should think about, and think about it logically. Of course we can never “order those with money to give it to those who do not”. Not even the Supreme Court or the President. And that is a fact.

        But if you take it into a new perspective, try imagining Philippines as a Socialist-Democrat country, why would it not be possible? Impose laws that would limit the rich’s wealth (socialist ehh so we can do that), the excess of which will go to the social services of the government.

        Of course you can argue that “corrupt ang gobyerno, ibubulsa lamang ang pera, hindi iyan possible, etc etc blah blah blah”. Now, try to think about it, if we would really rationalize, ang pinaka problema ang hindi ang gobyerno, kundi ang tao mismo. Kung sakaling maging Socialist-Democrat ang ating bansa, at sakaling may moral ascendancy ang mga nagpapatakbo nito, kaya nating ma kontrol ang wealth at maibahagi sa mga mas nangangailangan.

    • Nagagalitna

      Dahil madaming tamad na Pilipino maaga pa lasing na at nagtatambay lang doon sa tabi ng kalsada…wag mong isisi doon sa nagsumikap at umayos ang buhay.

      Hindi kasalanan ng mayaman kong ganoon sila dahil ang mga ninuno nila ay nagsumikap para umayos buhay nila.
      Mahirap ako pero hindi ko sila sinisisi dahil inayos lng nila buhay nila mulat sapol eh.

  • $31594090

     Legalizing divorce makes sense. No individual has to suffer the misery of bondage.

    • boldyak

      and therefore, you should be sure before getting married that you and your partner are committed to each other…that is the solution….walang trial and error sa buhay…be responsible in every decision you make…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002442255962 Lovely Chelsey

    bakit ba ayaw ng pilipino s divorce dahil sagrado katoliko im pro rh billand divorce mabuhay si Pnoy and liberal party yehey panalo tayo

    • boldyak

      yan ang batas na para sa kamanyakan….

  • Mark Philip Wu

    If you are against divorce, then you should be against annulment as well, since they both achieve the same thing. Fact is, anyone with money can legally erase their marriage in this country right now. This is not some brand new concept that divorce will introduce for the first time.

    Just look at our senators, our celebrities, how many of them are separated? The President’s own sister, naka-ilang kasal na si Kris Aquino? 

    • Don Dee

      FYI, Kris was married only ONCE (to date). I get your point, but keep your facts straight.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ASNEUXV4S3MSRD74OGIENXT67Y Mina Reyes

        okay. i think you thought she was married with those people. so far i know she’s been with philip salvador and joey marquez.

    • boypalaban

      kanino ikinasal si Kris? kay John Lloyd? kay Coco Martin? hahahahahaha

  • Mark Philip Wu

    Si Dolphy, mahal na mahal ng mga Filipino. e bakit hindi nyo sya ni-cocondemn for hurting the family values of the Philippines? He has 17 children with 6 different women and never once got married.

    Sa Carmina-Zoren wedding, kilig na kilig kayo lahat. E hindi ba hiwalay rin si Carmina?

    Kung maka-salita mga tao, as if walang naghihiwalayan ngayon palang e. Ang dami dami kong alam na hiwalay na na-magasawa ngayon palang, sa papel nalang sila kasal. 

    To act and pretend like a family is still a family just because a mother and father live under the same roof is very naive. A happy family with one parent is ten times better than a family with two parents but who the children hear fighting all the time

    • boldyak

      why then they get married at first?…you should be responsible on all what have you done..ang pagpakasal ay commitment ng bawat isa’t isa…walang trial and error…

      • Mark Philip Wu

        E hindi ba nagbabago ang tao?

        Can you tell me that you are absolutely the same person today that you were 10 or more years ago?

      • braindead_91

        Just because a person isn’t the same today from what or who we are 10 years ago doesn’t mean we can do whatever the hell we want since “nagbabago ang tao”. If you don’t have commitment, why marry in the first place?

      • Mark Philip Wu

        It’s not even just that. What about marital infidelity? Domestic violence? And the bill about divorce states that they must be separated for at least 5 years. If a couple has been apart for 5 years, should we keep pretending that everything’s okay and that they shouldn’t be legally separated?

      • http://Yahoo.com/ Ragdeleafar

        Mag bago ka sa ikakabuti hindi sa ikakasama! As you go older you must have the wisdom of good desires and reasons. Kung napasama ang kasama mo magsumikap ka mapabuti sya otherwise magtiis ka na lang wala sya not to a point magiba ka ng kasama dahil sabi sa Bible pag iniwan mo ang iyong asawa at sumama sa iba nagkasala ka ng adultery which is a mortal sin. Prepare for next life that is everlasting not the present life on earth which is temporary.

      • Mark Philip Wu

        Kung lahat ng tao kaya maging mabuti, e di wala sana tayong kriminal at corrupt na politician. Hindi ganon and reality ng mundo

        Wala namang nagsasabi na mabuti ang pagiiwan sa asawa, pero nangyayari parin to. So dapat ba wala tayong gawin at magsalita nalang ng magsalita tungkol sa ano ang masama at mabuti? 

  • bahwan

    The problem with these politicians who wants the Divorce Bill like Belmonte is that they are all separated from their wives. Do you think we are stupid!! to accept this.

    • yonoh

       para makahanap pa ng aasawahin parehas sila ni pinoy condom

    • boldyak

      they are a FAILURE….by passing a divorce law, they are justifying their failure in life…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VKBESEZ3J3Q4XC4MXQRT5EYW74 Bong

      gusto yatang makaisa tung matanda na ito…, ganyan kasi mayayaman gusto anak lang gaya ni Kris

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VUFRGRCCA5JXOLKEVCJQ3FBW3Y Concerned Citizen

    These clowns should pass the FOI Bill first

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    BELMONTE IS BORN AGAINST…KAYA PALA MASIGASIG SIYA NA ISULONG ANG RH AT DIVORCE KASI ITO ANG TURO NG BORN AGAINST SA KANILA…AT ANG MGA TANGANG KATOLIKO NAMAN SUOND NAMAN NG SUNOD SA KAGUSTUHAN NG MGA BORN AGAINST…AND THEY ARE EVEN HAPPY DEFYING THEIR BISHOPS…PITY CATHOLICS…

    • Nagagalitna

      Kapatid alam mo kahit isang dosena pa ang batas nating patungkol sa hiwalayan kung ang mag asawa ay nagsasama ng tapat at masaya mahirap mo mapag hiwalay yon…Pero kahit nakakadina ang mag asawa para mapagsama kung nag aayawan na hindi mo pa din mapag isa yon…lalo lng sila magkakasala kasi magloko lng si lalaki or si babae or pareho sila…so mamili ka yong nag lolokuhan o yong naging magkaibigan pa dahil nagkasundo sila na maghiwalay na lng?Ang devorce Bill ay hindi gagawin para paghiwalayin ang mag asawa kundi para doon sa failed merriage na nagkukuwari na lng na mag asawa kasi dahil sa papel.Tulad ko kahit na maapprove yan di ako apektado kasi mahal ko pamilya ko at asawa ko kaya no big deal. For me madami ang mag binipesyo nito tulad ng mga ulirang ina na nakapag asawa ng palamunin lasingero, adik, babaero, sugarol at nangngugulpi pa…madami ganyan kaso sa atin na di maka alis si Babae dahil sa wala tayong batas na ganyan. Or minsan si lalaki naman ang tinataihan sa ulo so buti pa mag hiwalay na lng sila para makahanap ang bawat isa ng maayos na buhay kong gugustuhin nila.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        paano nagkaroon ng failed marriage???kaksi hindi ginamit ang isip…

        nag kausap lng sa txt, magpapakasal na…pwede ba un>>>

        pumasok ka sa internet shop, 1 hour pa lang na chatting, nag i love you na….the problem is from the very start that must be corrected…cos ang pag aasawa ay hindi kanin na isusubo na kung maiinit iluluwa…

      • http://Yahoo.com/ Ragdeleafar

        Correct ka dyan! Pag may divorce law kasi mga younger generation, the not so young and young once will not think twice, trice or many more times over to get married soonest , anyway there is that law that they can adhere to in case they wanted to end their vows. The reason would simply be materials things and mere physical attraction, true love will  be last thing in the equation, immorality will be at its peak. With the RH Bill, Divorce Bill, and the next same Sex Marriage, Its More Fun in the Philippines, more than ever will be worst than ‘Soddom & Gommora’!

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        hence…it must be stopped!!

      • Diepor

        Fanatic, let people live their own life without your stupid religious rules. Faith is a private thing so keep it inside the church. Leave normal people alone. Why do you live in US when you hate their culture so much?

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        wat makes it fanatic na isang oras lang nakilala, nagpakasal na???isnt it fanatic???

      • frudo

        mag asawa ka muna saka ka magsalita ng ganyan wala ka experience

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        aminin mo na, gusto mo lang makarami…kagaya ni kris aquino…mga pasimpleng meniac

      • frudo

        ikaw nga jan aminin mo na rin baka nga gumagamit ka rin ng pills eh jan pa sa america panay ang party papaiwan ka ba?

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        not all…only those hedonistic obama states are liberal…like new york…florida and california

  • yonoh

    andami nilang dapat ayusin sa bansa natin yong ikakasira nang familya ang inaasikaso nila…………..kawawang pilipino……………

    • Nagagalitna

      Bro alam mo kahit isang dosena pa ang batas nating patungkol sa hiwalayan kung ang mag asawa ay nagsasama ng tapat at masaya mahirap mo mapag hiwalay yon…

      Pero kahit nakakadina ang mag asawa para mapagsama kung nag aayawan na hindi mo pa din mapag isa yon…lalo lng sila magkakasala kasi magloko lng si lalaki or si babae or pareho sila…so mamili ka yong nag lolokuhan o yong naging magkaibigan pa dahil nagkasundo sila na maghiwalay na lng?

      Ang devorce Bill ay hindi gagawin para paghiwalayin ang mag asawa kundi para doon sa failed merriage na nagkukuwari na lng na mag asawa kasi dahil sa papel.

      Tulad ko kahit na maapprove yan di ako apektado kasi mahal ko pamilya ko at asawa ko kaya no big deal.
      For me madami ang mag binipesyo nito tulad ng mga ulirang ina na nakapag asawa ng palamunin lasingero, adik, babaero, sugarol at nangngugulpi pa…madami ganyan kaso sa atin na di maka alis si Babae dahil sa wala tayong batas na ganyan. Or minsan si lalaki naman ang tinataihan sa ulo so buti pa mag hiwalay na lng sila para makahanap ang bawat isa ng maayos na buhay kong gugustuhin nila.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3ILWCI37UDVJJL5FNI3EVM4HHA janetu

    GO, GO, GO DIVORCE BILL…..IF THE MARRIAGE WONT WORK ANYMORE, WHY SUFFER??? YUNG CATHOLICO NAMAN ANG KONTRABIDA E….AKALA MO MAY IPALAMON SA OVER POPULATED NA PILIPINAS!!!

    • boldyak

      so pakasal ka lang ng pakasal kahit hindi mo love ang siang tao, basta may pera…pag wala na pera divorce na…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VLO53PRSSY76BZOWLOHJDM33M jeray

      GO GO tsunknak ka ng tsunkna. Wag mong sisihinin yung ibang tao kung wala ka palamon sa anak mo. 

  • MrJoseRizal

    Move forward Philippines! Away from the firm control of the Catholic Church for centuries already. It’s TIME!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/G2UFL7BAIFFUU6TIW4FFAPTVV4 Ghost

    Even Italy, the seat of roman catholicism, has divorce law. Ok, every country in the world have divorce law. Nauna na magkaron ang mga progresibong bansa. Pilipinas na lang ang naiwan at hanggang ngayon kumakain tayo ng alikabok sa kadiliman at kamangmangan…

    .

    • boldyak

      divorce law, then abortion, then same sex marriages, then what?….papunta na lahat sa kamunduhan na gustong gusto ng hari ng demonyo…this proves that the catholic church is right in preventing further deterioration of morality…otherwise we become like dogs having sex anywhere and whereever they want…people are justifying their worldly satisfaction…no more spiritual satisfaction…a character of one who does’nt believe that there is GOD

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VKBESEZ3J3Q4XC4MXQRT5EYW74 Bong

        Boldyak tama ka, nakakalungkot na sa tingin ko mas madami ang tumatangkilik sa makamundong kaligayahan…im not a saint but this is our battle to try our best to follow Christ…

      • motorcyclemama

        actually, I believe the catholic church is the main driver of these bills. 

    • Nagagalitna

      Meaning Bro hepokreto ang bansa natin pag dating sa bagay na ito…hehehe.
      Kunwari mga matitino pero mapababae at lalaki madami lihis na ang landas ayaw png aminin na nag aayawan na :-)

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VKBESEZ3J3Q4XC4MXQRT5EYW74 Bong

      ghost ka talaga, Vatican is not under Italy government… tsaka gagamitin lang ng mga hindi marunong magdala ng pamilya ang divorce na yan… ang kawawa nga bata at mga babae

    • http://Yahoo.com/ Ragdeleafar

      Hindi dahil marami ang may gusto ay tama! Mali ka dyan, ng ginunaw ang mundo lahat halos ng tao ay nagkamali sa akala…di pa rin kayo natutu? Moral dictates & commands what is evil what is good? Human are gifted reasons and desires animals only desires no reason at all and Angels only reason no desires…Thus, use your judgement for your own good, open your mind for good! Back to the basics follow GOD’s commandments!!!

    • xrisp

      Feed your soul with the words of God and not only your body with the pleasure of the flesh. That’s how you could escape from the tricks of the devil!  Your own GHOST will haunt you by embracing immorality as your way of life!

  • w33k3nd3r

    I must admit, I like seeing the priests getting pi$$ed off because they’re just way too much in with their noses in places where they shouldn’t be. Just because they claim to be God’s agents doesn’t mean they can rule on humanity. Jesus. No pun intended.

    • boldyak

      just tell us that you are not a catholic…dami mo pang pautot

      • w33k3nd3r

        Sadly, I am. Wasn’t given much of a choice when I was born, yknow.

    • motorcyclemama

      Actually, RH Bill approval was the deeper intent to shoo these nosy people away.

  • Amboy123

    No need for a Divorce bill.  Pass an Annulment reforms bill. Provisions should include cost control and financial responsibility obligation of both parents to the children. Fact of the matter is kung ang annulment will only cost between 500 – 5,000 pesos, marami ang mag-aavail ng annulment.  Annulment today costs between 100,000 – 150,000 ( see my earlier post). Hindi lahat ng tao kaya magbayad niyan. At the final annulment settlement, both parties should agree on the financial and custody agreement.  In this way, no feathers were ruffled. No harm, no foul.

    • Mark Philip Wu

      Well the problem with annulment is that everyone just makes up reasons as to why they want their marriage to be annulled. I would say that 75% of annulments are made up reasons of “psychological incapacity” even if there’s absolutely nothing wrong. The only reason it keeps working is because it’s such a vague and unprovable thing, and also, people can be bought

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

    Hindi naman sa ayaw ko but LOOK!…..Sariwa pa sa tao ang RH Bill and you have to give a space for their mind to THINK?…Everyone´s impression until now  might be? “What the hell does our Government in their mind and their purpose why immediately asking for this Divorce Bill?”…You have to enlighten and adjust first our mind so that we can set everything according to law!…Hinay-hinay lang! Or else,this might cause civil unrest in a sense that a member of a family commit suicide…and even for children to acquire “Attention Deficiency Syndrome”…dahil kulang sa pagbibigay ng care sa bata!…Hindi magagawa ng isang Ina ang gawain ng isang Ama na hinahanap ng mga bata and vice versa!Sa mga foreigners…NORMAL YAN!…Pero sa kagaya nating mga Pilipino,IBA ANG IMPACT NYAN SA BAWAT APEKTADONG PAMILYA!…Kung gusto nyong may Divorce,then do it smoothly in a way na walang mabibigla.Yung merong “transitory or probitional period” Like for example:
    New Laws for “LEGAL SEPARATION”…..After both parties filed their Legal separation,give them a space or time like ONE year separated,then it will turn AUTOMATICALLY into DIVORCE BILL! Give a family a chance to renew if possible?…Just my 2 cents of opinion!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

    Kung ako ang tatanungin,i will give priority first to put back DEATH PENALTY!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E3CE56OQVPC4RPYD2NR4VD3SUE Bert

    Divorce after RHB? That’s too predictable. Then what’s next, ABORTION? Under the present administration, the DEVIL is just too ACTIVE and visible in successfully DESTROYING FAMILIES.

    • xrisp

      What do we expect now from this gov’t? They are dragging us into the abyss.

    • Observer_din

      pre hanggang divorce lang yan, di na nila papasukin ang abortion and your other fears, masyado nang extreme para sa kultura natin ang mga iyon.

  • ApoNiLolo

    I’m for the divorce bill, if the couple does not have children.
    I’m against it, if the couple have minor children.

    • Observer_din

      di pag me anak, pwede silang maghiwalay pag matanda na sila? kawawa naman mga anak kung lagin makikita na nagbabangayan ang mga magulang nila, traumatic naman yata para sa kanila yun.

      • ApoNiLolo

        For me, if the children are already adults, they may divorce if they want to.
        My main concern are the children. It was shown, in the US at least, that children with divorce parents have more psychological ”issues” than children who grow up in an intact family.

        Pag nag-away ba kayong mag-asawa, pinaparinig o kaharap nyo ang mga bata?

    • Diepor

      I agree, its better for a child to live with two parents that hate their partner and fight all the time. You have really tought this tru.

  • Your_King

    Divorce will definitely be a hot topic that many people in the government will be interested in. It will another reason for them to argue and for Aquino to look confused.

    • Observer_din

      Aquino need not to confuse, he just needs to listen on what people say, tapos sundin lang niya ang boses ng mas nakararami. Matalino ang presidente natin, alam niya kung ano ang kailangan,pag nakita nyang di kailangan di nya susuportahan ito.

      • Your_King

        Aquino and smart doesn’t fit together unless it’s connected by is not.

      • Observer_din

        so you think you are more intelligent than the president? :)

      • Your_King

        Everybody knows that the majority of the Philippines is smarter than the President. However, except Pacquiao which is now debatable, no one is more popular than the President.

      • Observer_din

        oh,so you’re part of that majority?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZWTTKJTI57YO7TZBJC66GA2OLU dennis

    The reason why i want to have a “Transitory period”(one year) before it will turn into Divorce proper is that it will give “space and time” for every member to think,as a STANDARD to everybody! But kung gusto ng mabilisan eh pwede din BUT if “The Price is right?”

    • motorcyclemama

      Agree. Now, pass the Divorce bill.

  • monses

    this will destroy the filipino culture of close family ties…

    • motorcyclemama

      if a family really has close ties, divorce would not come to mind.

      • ApoNiLolo

        JJ, ikaw ba yan?

    • Observer_din

      pare maski walang divorce marami na ring naghihiwalay na mag-asawa bakit pahihirapain pa,di gawin na lang legal tutal ang magde-desisyon naman dyan mag-asawa, sila ang tunay na nakakaalam ng mga sitwasyon nila, hindi tayo.

    • Diepor

      So naive and childlike.

    • Concade

      so be it… yan ang paniniwala mo e.wag mo idamay ang iba sa katangahan mo. yung iba salungat dyan sa paniniwala mo.

      • monses

        mas tanga ka walang modo at pinag aralan …na express ko lang opinyon ko pero nasa tao pa din yan kung gusto ng divorce bobo..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/36O4ZGE5JY24XE4XQOXBM6O4WE Klepto

    May chance na akong maging binata uli at hindi na ma guilty :)
     

    • http://Yahoo.com/ Ragdeleafar

      Yan ang akala mo? Ok sa batas ng tao di ka na guilty but sa batas ng GOD talo ka GUILTY ka! ” What profit does a man gains the whole world but loses his soul”.

      • Observer_din

        AMEN,  but this one should go.. hehehe

      • Concade

        Bakit mo idadamay sa mga mga katangahan mong paniniwala ang iba na di katulad ng paniniwala mo?

  • turbogirl9

    TUTA SA KANO 

  • malek_abdul

    “After Malta legalized divorced last year, the Philippines has become the only country in the world—apart from the Vatican—without a divorce law.” – Catholics in the Philippines wanted that our country will hold the record as the only nation that there is no Divorce Law.

    Is it not more immoral if a married couple are living with a person other than his/her legal partner? In the absence of divorce law that makes separation legal ang lahat ng pagsasama ng married person other than his/her legal partner is immoral.

    In Mindanao, ang paghihiwalay ng mga mag-asawang muslim (some if not most) ay pwedeng pag-usapan lang ng mga magulang, guardians or elders ng bawat partido. If terms and conditions have been met, pwede na magpakasal sa iba ang bawat naghiwalay na mag-asawa. As simple as that.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KZF5TE7RCJJXEDQH4B6X3C47AI Carl

    Divorce bill ahead of the Mining bill. Christ, this country knows its priorities!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SPLUBLEOSERDBOIJTDOC6XIWGU mxsclxmxn

    BORN AGAIN – a person with zero knowledge about faith brainwashed by PASTORS!

    • frudo

      katoliko, birainwashed inalipin pa ng mga pari pinaniwala sa mga Dios diosan na hindi ayon sa paniniwala na tinuturo ni Kristo

  • joshmale2004

    We already have existing law on annulment and legal separation. Instead of adding another one in the form of Divorce, why not study revision of the annulment law to widen the grounds for annulment and integrate the alimony settlement therein?

    • motorcyclemama

      In other words, it is called “DIVORCE”.

    • Diepor

      Why do you need the church to get a divorce? I dont even belive in their view on god and bible.

      • joshmale2004

        Did I say Church is needed to get a divorce? You might be replying to someone else.

  • Beguine

    Nobody needed a gypsy, crystal ball or gifted fortune teller to
    think of this divorce bill as an idea following hot on the heels
    of the just passed population control law enforcement.

    And after the divorce law, what next?

    Legalizing LBGT (lesbian, bisexual, gay, transsexual) marriages?

    Is this what we need Congress and the Senate for?

    The people have been doing all these things by themselves even
    without these laws!  What a terrible waste of time and people’s money.
    We have a government of clowns and good-for-nothings.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WC2VPZRJETRO5KOU4VOZCJXEDY Tamarindwalk

    It’s about time we have formal divorce in this country!
     

  • joshua kings

    i could not beleive this..sonny spousing divorce?
    ms betty go (RIP) must be turning in her grave now….
    it behooves why men when they get older make fools of themselves (e,g, joker arroyo, the late senator tolentino,)….what gives messrs?
    you disappoint us, mr belmonte….really….
    is aka rin palang as___le………

  • Ommm

    ” Rodriguez earlier warned that an RH law would open a “pandora’s box” of related
    demands, such as legislation on abortion, divorce and same-sex
    marriage.”

    Rather than a pandoras box, we should call it stepping into this century.

  • Jesse_Bruce_Pinkman

    Divorce = legal separation

    Annulment = legal separation

    So, what’s the difference? Why are these stupid clowns in the Senate wasting their time on something that is entirely useless.

    Divorce requires:
    1. Lawyer
    2. Money
    3. Money 
    4. Money

    Annulment requires:
    1. Lawyer
    2. Money3. Money
    4. Money

    Although some grounds in divorce are not present in annulment, lawyers can make things up so that divorce grounds look like annulment grounds. That is what they are there for. What’s even better with annulment is that if your marriage is annulled, you don’t need to share the properties you have personally obtained while being married, unlike when you are filing for divorce, because all properties acquired during the marriage are considered conjugal properties and must be equally or consently shared.

    • xrisp

      The difference is that you consider everything but not God.

      • frudo

        The difference is hindi tyo parepareho ng paniniwala hindi mo pwede gawin or ipilit sa iba ang paniniwala mo. Kung magkaroon man ng divorce law. Ano nman problema sa yo apektado ka ba dun

      • xrisp

        Yes of course because we should share in God’s salvation works for mankind. God requires us of that task.

      • frudo

        so ano kinalaman nun sa divorce law?  Dios nman ang huhusga hindi ikaw?  Dios din ang magliligtas: so yung mga kapatid mo palang katoliko sa ibang bansa na may divorce law paano na sila di ka ba dun naapektuhan, 

    • Don Dee

      But I can throw the same equation at those who are against divorce. If divorce = annulment why is the church so against it? 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/4NDRNR4NH2Q4EXS7TMWEEAUWGE Pope

        correct Don Dee.

      • frudo

        Uu nga eh ayaw nila ng divorce pero annulment di nila mapalagan ano kaya yun?

      • Jesse_Bruce_Pinkman

        That is what actually puzzles me to no end.

    • Diepor

      Are you trying to be difficult or do you really not understand the difference. Why should you need to go to the church to ask for annulment. Church and state is different.

      • Jesse_Bruce_Pinkman

        It doesn’t make any difference whether it is church or state.

        At the end of the day, it will still be separation.

      • Diepor

        An annulment treats the marriage as though it never happened.Its a big difference when it comes to childsupport and sharing of assets. if I get married in the courthouse why do i need to ask the church for annulment? Its very important to seperate the church and state.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NIPR2MWOPGWUNZ4COTAMW7MLKE Mark

    sige ipasa nyo na lahat ang batas mag sasatisfy sa mga kamunduhan.. RH Bill, Divorce, Prostitution, Marijuana, Malalaswang palabas (yehey ibabalik c George, Mark Joseph / Tony Martinez, Myrna Castillo, Myra Manibog), Abortion … same sex marriage cge mga bwisit last day na sa Dec. 21…magsisisi na kayo

    • http://www.facebook.com/carlo.j.reyes Reynan Karl Jacutin Reyes

      galit ka? hahhahahahaa

  • http://www.facebook.com/bel.puncia Bel Puncia

    aywan ko ba sa buwisit na itro pati si belmonte na lolo na gusto pa ng divorce

  • Mark Philip Wu

    Many people against the RH Bill and divorce live in an idealistic fantasy land. Ang solution to everything is to keep talking about how evil those things are and to keep telling people to do the right thing and be responsible and be good.

    Meanwhile, in the REAL world, we need laws for the exact reason that many people AREN’T capable of responsible, good, or moral. At some point, you actually need to take action to curb irresponsibility and wrongdoing, not just keep preaching from a pulpit what the ideal should be like the church does

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NIPR2MWOPGWUNZ4COTAMW7MLKE Mark

      marami kasi sa mga pilipino ngaun kasi hindi nagabayan ng tama ng mga magulang…now is the right time na magkaroon ng mga palabas na hindi lang halikan/sabunutan/gantihan kundi mga values na dadalhin nila habang buhay. The main problem nowadays kasi masyadon na tayong expose the modern word and we want to adapt the things they were in the modern world. Nawawala na ang mga kagandahan asal na minana natin sa ating mga ninuno…eh bakit naman kasi pag bukas mo ng tv si Kris Aquino kaagad yung makikita mo ah promoter ng kalandian yan

    • marithefrancois

       korek so medieval yet corrupt naman. let them dream on. go belmonte go!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/66IBL6GXM2FRIGHLCBH5XG4L4M Wafu

    Diyos q  patawarin nio po ang mga Pilipino wala ng moral at puro pag akap sa pangangalunya ang nsa icp ng tao.ndi n nila naisip ang mga pamilyang sisirain ng batas n ito. Pag labag sa kautusan ng panginoon ang nilalaman nito na wg kng mangangalunya. Sana Pagtibayin nila eh batas para protektahan ang pamilya laban sa pangangalunya at ndi ung itolerate ito. Mas maganda sana qng pabigatin ang batas sa bigamy at ndi yng makademonyong batas n yn!

    • Concade

      Ano pa bang napapala ng mga tao sa konsepto ng relihiyon ngaun? Mas may pkinabang pa ang lipunan sa batas na gawa ng tao kumpara sa mga kautusan na galing sa mga pari…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NIPR2MWOPGWUNZ4COTAMW7MLKE Mark

    Scene1: mga batang nagliligawan…
    Scene2: sinagot ni bebot c guy …ang sweet naghahalikan/nagyayakapan sa kalsada at public places
    Scene3: RH Bill ipinasa.. couple nag try mag sex kasi may libreng condom
    Scene4: nagka anak ang couple..nang wala ng makain lagi nag aaway, c girl laging nag seselos  c guy laging gabi kung umuwi.. resulta hindi magkasundo
    Scene5: Divorce bill pinasa.. c girl at guy nag divorce dahi sa issue ng irreconcilable differences
    Scene6: Anak lumaking walang ama /ina…naging sakit ng lipunan, bully sa school, naging drug addict
    Scene7: Prostitution na legalize — yung kawawang bata naging prostitute

    mabuhay ang Pilipinas wala ng pinag iba sa Europe/ USA … dumami na ang mga bwisit

    • http://Yahoo.com/ Ragdeleafar

      Hindi effective RH Law nanganak eh? Hindi effective Divorce Bill walang ama/ina anak gumagala? Hindi effective Illegal Drugs, bata naging drug addict? Hindi effective and Law Enforcement hindi nakulong may drugs involve? Effective prostitution dumami bwisit?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

      Galing naman ng dalawang yon, nagdivorce nang di nagkasal.  Medyo bobo nga lang na nagkaanak kahit gumagamit ng contraceptives.

      At nagkukunwari ka ba na walang pokpok sa Pilipinas?  O na mas moral tayo sa buong mundo? 

    • Concade

      Mga batang nagliligawan sa simbang gabi hahahaha!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

      HYPOCRITE BISHOPS BRAVO NICE FAIRYTALES”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NIPR2MWOPGWUNZ4COTAMW7MLKE Mark

    ipasa na kaagad yang Divorce bill para maraming marami akong matikman na keppy kasi yung sa misis ko maluwag na i di divorce ko sya kunwari eh incapable na sya. Sure naman na hindi ako mag kakasakit kasi maraming condom sa Health Center

    • frudo

      so what kung i divorce mo choice mo desisyon mo yun wala kami paki duon ikw ang magdadala nun,  so ano problema dun wala

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NIPR2MWOPGWUNZ4COTAMW7MLKE Mark

    Pls. mga senators/congressmen paki next ang legalization ng Prostitution at Marijuana…kasi mga inutil naman kayo…

    • Diepor

      legelize mary jane is a good idea. It would be a cheap and good working medicine for many people.

      • buttones

        And a good cash crop as well for the small farmers! Growing tobacco that kills I don’t know how many is of course perfectly legal–

    • Diepor

      Prostitution is everywhere in this country, legal or not. The thing that would be different with a legilazation is it would be easier to control their health, they could pay tax and it would not be a part of the underground economy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NIPR2MWOPGWUNZ4COTAMW7MLKE Mark

    cge na nga ipasa mo na Belmonte yang divorce bill…pero dapat ang mag de decide kung dapat silang mag divorce ay yung mge netizen… so dapat i upload yung mga pictures ng hihiwalayan at yung bagong asawa, pag maganda yung bagong asawa divorce na agad at wait ha ..dapat ma test kung ok sya sa kama… so kailangan may video din yun..mabuhay ang Pilipinas …papunta na tayo sa impyerno

  • http://Yahoo.com/ Ragdeleafar

    You still commit sin even if you are divorced but you re-marries? A wrong cannot be made right by another wrong! Ok you maybe divorced but stay single for the rest of your life that maybe not sin?

    • Diepor

      Its normal to sin. Re-marry is not a sin in my eyes.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/66IBL6GXM2FRIGHLCBH5XG4L4M Wafu

    kelan p naging kaimpokretuhan ang pagsunod sa aral ng panginoon?anu b ang dpat?divorce b?kawawa nmn ang mga batang magiging biktima ng btas n ito n cra ang pamilya. Pra ng aso ang mga pilipina n qng cnu2 na.Anu b ang nkakacra ng pamilya at mgndang pagsasama?pambubugbog, panlalaki,pambabae,lamangan sa pera, anu pa?bket ndi ito ung gwan ng batas n matibay ang parusa pra tumino ang pinoy?bket divorce bill b ang sagot pra maging msaya lhat ng pagsasama. Patayin ung ugat ng pagkasira at ndi itolerate ang pagkasira ng pamilya ang dapat.Pati pinoy cnasabihang kontrabida ang simbahan. anu b ang pinaglalaban ng simbahan?d b aral at pagsunod sa panginoon.? kung ikaw eh laban k dun isa lng twag sau kaibigan.kampon k ni satanas. wag k ng papasok ng simbahan at bka magliyab k . tama b mali?opinyon q lng nmn to.bato2 sa langit..

  • unodelacruz

    mga hayop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000376233432 Nemfred Flores

    kung labag sa batas ang divorce, bkt meron nito sa buong mundo?? di lng pilipinas ang bansa na karamihan ay kristiyano… ang simbahan tinuturuan ang mga tao na maging bobo!!! yan ang katotohanan…im a christian, pero di ibig sabihin tama lahat ng ginagawa ng mga pari… may rapist, magnanakaw at iba may lihim na pamilya pa…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NIPR2MWOPGWUNZ4COTAMW7MLKE Mark

    ano ba ang nangyayari sa bansang ito…Pnoy at Kris kasiraan ng Aquino Family…yan kasi napabayaan sa U.S

    • wawa2172

       He he he iba naman ang hilig ni Krissy reason that she is psychologically incapacitated to comply with the essential marital obligations dahil madali siyang mag sawa. From Philip Salvador to Joey Marquez to James Yap puro pinag sawaan. Kris is an example of legal basis for divorce because she is intelligent, rich and madaling mag sawa sa partner. Lover nang bayan si Kris kaya pang matanda, pang comedy at pang sport siya. Religion has nothing to do with the character of Kris, she is what she is, pang divorce talaga. Ilang beses na bang nag pa annulled si Krissy, kasal ba sila ni epe? Annuled na sila ni Yap di ba? Ay ewan ko ha ha ha ( as in Krissy signature laugh na pang plastic).

  • droachman3

    When neither party belong to the Catholic church ,why does one have to get approval by annulment for divorce from the church? This seem to articulate slavery by one spouse for not being able to get a divorce.

    • Diepor

      You can divorce legally if you are a muslim, strange?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HURHTRIVVZLV2NZWFGQHNDGPKY isaac

    Italy, Ireland,Spain,Central Americans.they are all pre-dominantly catholic country, and they all have a DIVORCE LAW…and not only that, in italy where the christianity first started, the establishment of Catholic church, ABORTION is legal.

  • Observer_din

    YAN NA, ituloy na yan para lalong magwala ang mga BISHITS!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WTAON5IXMNB43HD4UY5JLY434U Reynaldo

    maybe this time mababawasan na rin ang mga kept woman/man  kasi may choice na ang bawat isa. mababawasan na ang pagsisinungaling ng mga partners sa isat- isa, lets accept it dumarating talaga sa ibang tao yan nawawala ang pagmamahan.

  • $25214711

    It’s about time na magkaroon na ng diborsyo sa pinas.

  • Concade

    Yang ang ok mga tulad ni Belmonte na mas inuuna ang kapakanan ng Bayan kumpara sa Katolisismo!

    • marithefrancois

      concade is right bayan muna, bago vatican, rights of women over the excesses of the church. down with damasos who fathered maria claras, save hule and the rest of the women

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_APVOOWFOYEHTUWLLGXG3SDRTUE Rory Cruz

    Divorce bill – Kailangan natin nito dahil dumarami na ang taong walang isang salita, mga taong di kayang panagutan ang mga binibitawan nilang mga salita, at mga taong di pinag-iisipang mabuti ang mga desisyon nila sa buhay. Kelangan nila ng bill na to para isalba nila ang kanilang sarili sa walang kakwenta kwenta nilang pagdedesisyon.

    Ba’t nga ba nagpapakasal ang mga tao? Dahil ba para ito sa kanilang pagmamahalan, dahil ba sa nabuntis lang, o dahil para kung ano ang sa iyo ay maging sa akin na rin?  Kelangan ng divorce para lang may “reset” button para maitama ang mga katangahang nagagawa sa agarang pagdedesisyon.

  • wawa2172

    My wife had a good laugh at the proposal of Belmonte and it scared me when she said with divorce may bagong pag isisipan na naman ang mga lalake para makapaghanap nang mas bata. I told her wont happen to me but she responded “dear, hintayin mong ma aprobahan ang divorce bill into law and we talk”. She knows what she is speaking of, her parents separated when she was still young since both both spouses are psychologically incapacitated to comply with the essential marital obligations. She grew up with her lola though her parents supported her studies. Ask my wife, she is for RH and divorce bill. Me, I have to do a deep analysis. I have a perfect wife, a professional, sobrang god fearing, a good cook, and as Recto been saying she is enjoyable and is pleasurable” ha ha ha. . Its petty though that it has to happen to her, all the while she thought she has a solid christian family  with her parents but things happened. My wife is a catholic like me, her parents change religion because of their new partners. I promise myself to be like my father who is faithfully married to my mom. My mom though made a joke na kahit na mahuli ko ang tatay mo na may chick, ok na rin, alam ko na di ko na maibibigay ang lahat na gusto niya basta babalik pa rin siya sa bahay. My dad could only laugh, di na raw siya sing bata ni Tom Cruz..ha ha ha. So in my own home, its one for Pro-divorce while I am abstaining. Alang kapares ang misis ko pre, “ma gabaan ko kung mag binuang ko, friends ni sila ni bro”.

    • PurpleDaisy13

      re: “Me, I have to do a deep analysis. I have a perfect wife, a professional,
      sobrang god fearing, a good cook, and as Recto been saying she is
      enjoyable and is pleasurable”

      In other words, you are abstaining because you do not want to lose your perfect wife to another lucky man through the process of divorce.

      But by continuing to prohibit divorce allows you to engage in fornication with other hot young chicks without losing your good cook and pleasurable wife.  To you, “No divorce” means a legal tight leash around your wife’s neck in the kitchen and in the bedroom while it lasts.

      Meanwhile, your wife is in favor of divorce to send you and all men a message that you must respect and treat your wives properly or face the possible consequences of living in loneliness for the rest of your remaining lives. Which can also work vice versa in favor of the husband.

      • marithefrancois

        purple daisy di ako sure kasi di ko nabasa lahat comments ng iba pero you are one among those who speak sense or may be the only one…hahhaha…marriage is a choice and to stay married must be a choice too, not a pretense for life. he simply means that the wife knows him as one who doesn’t know himself enough. in the first place, why are they still together i wonder, when the husband is a time bomb waiting to explode without him knowing it or until the law enables him. kawawa si wife no choice.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “why are they still together i wonder”

        Here in the states, there are many factors for staying with your husband despite all the drama.  Here are some….

        1. To avoid mental instability for children that may not have reached maturity.

        2. Some women are unconsciously deprived of an education or job experience so that living on their own would be difficult.

        3. Some women are threatened to be harmed.

        4. Some women are manipulated to believe that they are undesirable so that they risk living a life of loneliness. (while some truly ARE undesirable and can never attract another mate)

        5. Some women are afraid to lose the perfect image among family, relatives, and friends of being respected as a stable and ideal family.

        6. Some women are advised by church leaders not to divorce as it can potentially harm their income flow.

        etc..

      • wawa2172

         You talk with sense purple daisy but there are things that you missed. I don’t plan to commit any sinful act the reason I said I want to be like my father who is faithfully married to my mom. I am a person who believe in great karma that god will throw on me if I do such. The reason why I am abstaining on the issue of divorce is because the issue is still new to me and I has not really sink into my system. My parents relationship is solidly intact kahit maputi na ang kanilang buhok and it is anchor on honesty while my wife parents  are separated. Considering that ours is the only country left together with Vatican that have no divorce law is an interesting fact, bakit tayo na lang? Of course Vatican is ultra conservative thus it won’t go for divorce. Basta sa akin, naitaga ko na sa bato that I would remain faithful to my wife, because its not only sex that is enjoying, satisfying and pleasurable. But on the issue of divorce? Abstain pa rin ako and I will just let the lawmakers do the work binabayaran sila para mag trabaho. As I told my wife, kinarer of na ang pag aasawa at takot ako sa karma kawawa ang mga anak ko. Kaya ang lagi nasa isip ko like father like son. Humirit si dad, “one wife forever, no kabit and no chicks is stress free, satisfying and pleasurable daw at hahaba ang buhay mo”. He is a Pro-RH kaya na plano ang pamilya niya but he is Anti-Divorce he believes in sanctity of marriages. Matanda na rin ang mga parents ko ang aga nilang magising. Sila ang alarm clock naming mag asawa to prepare for work ha ha ha ha. Thanks to your response purple daisy..gbu.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “bakit tayo na lang?”

        Are you kidding me?  Who has had strong influence over the laws that govern the Philippines?  If you’ve answered the wealthy, you’d be correct.

        And would you say that most wealthy married Filipino men are faithful to their wives?  Not so much….lots of money can attract innocent beautiful babes, hot willing chicks, including desperate cuties that are always ready and available in the Philippines almost anywhere.

        But when you open the gates to the option for wives to divorce their wealthy husbands, do you realize the financial alimony that wealthy husbands must surrender to their wives after divorce?  Not only can it relieve some wives from the endless humiliation and the degradation of their dignity, but it can be a big reward that lets them win the “jackpot”.

        Thus, it is in the best interest for unfaithful wealthy Filipino married men to ensure that Divorce does not pass in the Philippines.

        In your case however, you shouldn’t worry if you have already discussed the challenges with your wife about the possibilities you may face that can threaten your marriage and will do everything in both your power to remain faithful and avoid temptation.

        While others may not be as lucky as you two, they should at least have the option to divorce to prevent themselves from feeling isolated and trapped that could lead to regret and escalate into disrespect and violence that could physically and mentally harm one or both spouses and the children, if any.

      • http://twitter.com/Sizzle75Ian ian martinez

        Women look for a male success object, he doesnt have to be handsome, or educated, just rich so that they have an easy easy life.

      • ruthless13

         Are rich men to dumb to realise that they are marrying or married a hooker?  If men are so insecure as to what happens with their wealth in marriage, then they can have a pre-nuptial agreement.  This will determine the sincerity of the other partner and see if anyone would be interested in them at all.  And this stereotype of women as hookers is an insult to women of modern times as many of them are smart and independent and even surpass men in terms of income earning capacity.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “Women look for a male success object, he doesnt have to be handsome, or
        educated, just rich so that they have an easy easy life.”

        Women who seek wealthy male partners also realize that there are not many wealthy male partners to choose from while a woman who looks for wealthy male targets doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll get what they want if the male target is not attracted to the woman.

        It’s all about chemistry and when the chemistry between two no longer produces any spark, it’s binding foundations erode and the two break apart as natural as divorce.

      • http://twitter.com/Sizzle75Ian ian martinez

        Females study the easiest subjects at school and university, they look for the easiest jobs. Despite 40 years of sexual equality in the west, even the female graduates main wish in life, is NOT to earn a good salary or to change the world, no, it is to FIND A RICH MAN who will pay for her and sacrifice himself, the typical DISPOSABLE MALE.
        Women’s life is full of choices and “rights”, men’s lives are not, THEY ONLY HAVE OBLIGATIONS, obligations to subsidise his wife without thinking too much of himself, if he fails in these obligations, the government will take his salary or jail him.
        Divorce has SEVERE SEVERE consequences for men, it is just an expansion of female choices for women, it is women who end most marriages where divorce is legal. It is male disposability.
        DIVORCE is bad news for men. Governments require male taxes to pay for them, they will never allow men to look after children etc, women as i said above look for easy, lowpaid jobs that the government receives little tax for.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: ” it is to FIND A RICH MAN who will pay for her and sacrifice himself, the typical DISPOSABLE MALE.”

        Despite what women do in their lives, it is a man’s choice to agree upon marrying a woman who may have such intentions.  That’s why rich men choose to have women sign a prenuptial agreement that protects their financial assets.  Are you not educated about this?

        re: “Women’s life is full of choices and “rights”, men’s lives are not, THEY ONLY HAVE OBLIGATIONS,”

        A woman cannot force a wealthy man to marry her because men have choices.  If any man believes that marriage is not beneficial, then he may choose not to marry a woman but may choose to continue to engage in casual partnerships with women without being married to them.

        re: “DIVORCE is bad news for men.”

        If DIVORCE is bad news for men, then MARRIAGE is bad news for men.  Just don’t get married if you do not believe you can sustain a solid relationship for the rest of your lives with a particular partner.  Remain single so you can have steady relationships with partners whereby neither of you have any obligation for each other.

      • http://twitter.com/Sizzle75Ian ian martinez

        I have already addressed all the points you raise in previous posts, purple, how divorces are MAINLY INITIATED BY WOMEN, often for trivial reasons, and how women look for a man to sacrifice himself for her and look for a rch man, it even has a term in English, “hypergamy”. The latin source of the english word “materialism” is “MATER” – woman. females have not changed in thousands of years. Look around the shopping malls, most stores cater for women and department stores front is jewelry, perfumes, FOR WOMEN! Men work in Dirty Difficult Dangerous work, but WHO SPENDS THE MONEY?

        the old female abusive posts are beginning to start “are you not educated about this? “(sic), this is very very typical of female thought. Females are unable to debate logically, they will ALWAYS resort to personal abuse, shaming tactics, attacking the person not what they are saying, sooner or later. Females like to make a narrative of what their emotions are expressing. Feminists in USA want male “logic” to be classed as ” domestic violence”. the problem is that governments throughout the world are all being influenced by their illogical, silly arguments.

        I was contrasting male attitudes to finding a wife, to females’ money chasing. One of woman’s complaints about men is that they treat women as sex objects not humans, but of course females are self obsessed and unable to see that they mainly look for male SUCCESS OBJECTS. Women will marry old, ugly socially inept men, but as long as the men are rich, they will be happy. Would a man ever do this? I know of one, but the answer is VIRTUALLY NEVER.

        prenups in most countries are a waste of time and money, all women have to do is say that they were forced to sign it. That is why a man must video his wife signing any legal documents. But I would like to highlight here where this divorce bill is going, it just creates massive wealth for lawyers and creates great divisions and fear for men. Women are unfaithful creatures, they will destroy their marriages for very very trivial reasons if they have an alternate source of wealth.Luckly in the Philippines, giving females vast amounts of social security paid for by MOSTLY MALE TAXES has not started, and hopefully never will. So most women will never be tempted by divorce for financial reasons even if it becomes legal in Phils.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “Look around the shopping malls, most stores cater for women and
        department stores front is jewelry, perfumes, FOR WOMEN! Men work in
        Dirty Difficult Dangerous work, but WHO SPENDS THE MONEY? ”

        Ian Martinez, if you are having marital problems or have had divorce, then you should have had some serious counseling.

        Why are you working in Dirty Difficult Dangerous work?  Because you were too stupid and poor to achieve an easy, clean, high-paying job?  That’s your fault….why didn’t you find an easy, clean, high-paying job before getting married instead of getting married while you worked in dirty difficult dangerous work just so you could complain later?

        Why do you let your wife spend money unfairly?  Don’t you have any courage to talk to your wife about her spending habits?  Or are you a coward in love and let her dictate the finances for your relationship?

        If you’re one ugly dude Ian martinez with nothing else to offer other than the hard earned money you work for to impress and keep a beautiful wife, why did you even get married?

        The bottom line is everything you’ve described is about a man who doesn’t have what it takes to carry on a healthy marriage and a wife that was poorly chosen only for the looks.

        Marriage is not for everyone….it’s only for very mature couples who have already gone through these types of discussions before getting married.  Not for immature couples who want to jump in with both feet to experiment whether or not the chemistry will work…..and that’s where Divorce comes in handy.

      • http://twitter.com/Sizzle75Ian ian martinez

        Women study easy subjects at school and university, they go for easy lowpaid office jobs. despite 40 years of gende equality the majority of female graduates, look, not to change the world, or make a fortune, NO, they look for a RICH MAN to spomge from.
        Most divorces are initiated by females, divorce just offes more choices for females and more DISPOSIBILITY for men.
        the government will never allow men to get custody of children, because they earn the most taxes for the state.Divorce is very very bad for men and society in general, but it is just increases female choices. Men do not have choices they just have OBLIGATIONS

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “Divorce is very very bad for men and society in general, but it is just increases female choices.”

        If men or women who wish to engage in marriage but have fear of reasons for financial gain, then the couple may choose to sign a prenuptial agreement or send lawmakers a proposal to make prenuptial agreements as default for marriages.

        While men and women who are neither wealthy may marry without fear of marrying for financial gain.  If there are special arrangements with regard to the custody of children in the event of a divorce, the couple may choose to sign a binding contract that both can agree upon that can overrule a government’s decision with regard to the custody of children.

      • http://twitter.com/Sizzle75Ian ian martinez

        “No longer produces a spark” that is typical of female unfaithfulness,

      • PurpleDaisy13

        Unfaithfulness can come from either or both spouses.

      • http://twitter.com/Sizzle75Ian ian martinez

        Most divorces in the west are by women, nearly all in fact. Women say that men are unfaithful though, of course. Most divorces are for trivial reasons in REALITY away from femimist hate, women say thimgs like ” there is no love anymore”, pity the poor husband who has been working slavishly long hours to pay for the hiuse, car etc for ungrateful entitled princeses

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “pity the poor husband who has been working slavishly long hours to pay for the hiuse, car etc for ungrateful entitled princeses”

        If a man chooses to marry in a culture that does not permit woman to be controlled and vice versa, then divorce should not be a surprise.

        But if you live in a culture that encourages control of women or vice versa, then husbands should have no fear of divorce and vice versa.

        You can’t have everything you want in life ian….either you choose to live and accept the culture in a democratic society that encourages freedom or a communist society that encourages suppression.  Take you pick and stop complaining.

  • http://www.yahoo.com JOSE RIZAL

    Akala ko ba nagtatrabaho ang admin with the Legislative on improving the “quality of life” to the poor…but they’re just focusing on their own family problem…
    Hahahahahahaha!  Divorce, even if not viewed on the “moral” context, are only for those who can afford (e.g. artistas and congressmen/women/senators, and well-to-dos)…afterall, it’s “the economy, you stupid”.
    Hahahahahahaha!  Saan na ang bill that would create more jobs…the 60/40 provision of the Constitution that needs to be changed…that would result to more foreign investments.
    Hahahahahahahahaha!  Mga “baboy” talaga…akala nila ang buhay nilang dinanas ay dinanas din ni ng pamilya ni Juan…
    Hahahahahahahaha!  

  • TEAM PNOY

    After the Divorce LAW, Mr Belmonte, isunod mo na din ang SAME SEX MARRIAGE LAW  para makapag asawa ka na uli!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5TENDBNOVQRJEKFPV76D2N4XUM Socorro

    Here we go again, mahihirap na naman ang idadahilan to pass the divorce bill,my God Mr Belmonte sirain mo ang pamilya at sisirain mo rin ang bansa. Failed marriages are because of selfish and immature men and women who got into marriage without knowing the consequences of their new lives and are not ready to sacrifice for the sake of their children. Wala namang victim sa separation ng couples kundi ang mga anak, then gagawin pang batas.

    • PurpleDaisy13

      re: “Failed marriages are because of selfish and immature men and women who
      got into marriage without knowing the consequences of their new lives
      and are not ready to sacrifice for the sake of their children.”

      If your church could have been more selective of allowing only dedicated and responsible couples qualified for long term marriage, then divorce would not have been necessary. 

      But since your church is incompetent and marries just about any man or woman of legal age without proper screening, assessment, and evaluation, millions of unqualified people are being permitted to marry who later bear children that have to live with such selfish, immature, irresponsible, and unhappy parents.

      Divorce must be approved and passed so that children do not have to suffer in an unhealthy family environment and be forced to witness the violence and war caused by parents whom no longer love each other and cannot legally separate from each other for their safety and their peace.

      • marithefrancois

         agree, divorce was allowed in the bible, the philippine catholic priests are scared because it will lose their grip on the erring husbands and subservient wives while the mistresses proliferate and the children suffer.

        the only catholic country, one of the most corrupt countries you call it philippines and the nerve to call itself conservative? with many of the priests erring and the suv bishops enjoying the loot, what is divorce to them but a tool for oppressing women….who can’t get out of the marriage because it is not allowed only in the corrupt Philippines.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “the philippine catholic priests are scared because it will lose their grip on the erring husbands”

        Church leaders rely on “higher worshiper population” to achieve “greater income”.

        But they cannot accomplish the first goal of achieving “higher worshiper population” if their worshipers are not married. 

        Pre-marital intercourse and fornication is against their rules so the only option is to marry as many people possible regardless of their mental or financial state including victims of teenage pregnancy so that they can hope for all married worshipers to be fruitful and multiply like crazy.

        “Contraceptives” defeats this purpose so it is in their best interest to deny the RH Bill.

        “Divorce” defeats this purpose so it is in their best interest to deny divorce.

        “Abortion” defeats this purpose so it is in their best interest to deny abortion.

        Anything that is a threat to the church’s income flow, their SUVs, and lavish lifestyles are all problems that must be stopped at all cost from their perspective.

        Thus, the primary concern of the church is not about resolving the country’s problems; their primary concern is in the interested of defending their assets and income flow. 

        This is no different than any basic business model that offers a service and strives to make huge profits by exploiting human resources.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jeffersonryanlee Jefferson Lee

        kala ko ba mahihirap sila, so paano makakatulong sa income ng simbahan yung mahihirap. 

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “paano makakatulong sa income ng simbahan yung mahihirap.”

        Church service fees and all donations add up to huge tax-free income when worshipers number in the thousands or millions.

      • http://twitter.com/Sizzle75Ian ian martinez

        Ah women are sugar and spice and all things nice, i will rmeber that when I next see my VIOLENT, UNFAITHFUL ex wife, who almost blinded me

    • marithefrancois

       the philippine society is corrupt to the max but your version is sisirain ang pamilya… which pamilya? one of the most corrupt countries claims that sisirain ang bansa? matagal na pong sira ang philippine society when compared to our neighbors we are at the bottom and this has nothing to do with the passage of a divorce bill.

    • simondj

      tama po iyan, selfish kasi kaya hindi magkasundo, walang pagtitiis kaya hindi ma develope ang character, samakatuwid walang character kaya kung saan saan na lang pumupunta and isipan. trials develope patience, patience develope character, and character when full blown creates love.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5TENDBNOVQRJEKFPV76D2N4XUM Socorro

    Then maybe after the divorce, abortion bill susunod na nag same sex  union, this is really the end of the world.

  • http://www.yahoo.com JOSE RIZAL

    Pansin ko na ang pakay talaga ng administrasyon ni Noynoy ay wasakin ang ESTRUKTURA ng PAMILYANG PILIPINO dahil sa nararanasan ng iilang mga babae na katulad sa naranasan ni Kris Aquino.
    Nasaan na ang batas na magpapa-improve sa ekonomiya?
    Hahahahahahahaha!  Modern na daw kasi…di nila alam na ang mga divorce, same sex relationship, at pagpapatay ng sanggol ay ginagawa na noon sa mga 3,000 years ago (The Lives of the Pharaohs, Sodom & Gommorah, etc).
    Binuhay lang ulit ni Noynoy, ang hari ng batas ng kamunduhan.
    Hahahahahahahaha!  Enjoy your FREE pills & condoms! 

  • etomacq

    Gawin na rin legal ang PROSTITUTION, MARIJUANA, SAME SEX MARRIAGE at JUETENG… Ibalik na rin ang DEATH PENALTY… Isa batas na rin na PWEDE MAG ASAWA NG HANGGANG 10 beses! 

    Sana gumawa na rin ng batas na ONE CHILD POLICY para lang sa mahihirap para malipol na ang mga pulubing salot daw sa lipunan.It’s really more fun in the Philippines..

  • http://twitter.com/wetwidewild wetwidewild

    ” the Philippines has become the only country in the world—apart from the Vatican—without a divorce law.”

    isn’t it nice to have no divorce law at all ?

    • PurpleDaisy13

      Having a divorce law is better so that your spouse can have the freedom of choice to divorce you.

      • http://twitter.com/wetwidewild wetwidewild

         in principle, people should have a choice, but it should under different law.

         this divorce law is another example of this govt that everything west is better, including big nose and grey hair.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “this divorce law is another example of this govt that everything west is better, including big nose and grey hair.”

        Well, the west (US) is a Superpower….What has the Philippines accomplished?  No where near such superiority.

        So learn from the best and do away with the worst.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

        @PurpleDaisy13:disqus 
        kaya nga ayaw namin ng Divorce Law dahil ito ay nasa “worse” policy’according to the Book of Life or BIBLE. Galing din ng analogy mo ha? Kung may Divorce Law magiging Superpower? Basa ka sa current news tungkol duon sa shooting sa Connecticut. Yung Gunman ay produkto ng divorced parents. Best ba sayo yung ganoon? Gawa nalang kayo ng federal state gaya ng CAR o ARMM sa Pinas kung saan nanduon lahat ang gusto ng divorce, easy access to guns, same sex marriage, abortion, satisfying sex, man-animal marriage, free condom, etc. Tapos after 20 years tingnan natin sa statistics kung sino ang mas maunlad. Tapos isa-batas ang magagandang law o policy para sa buong bansa. FEDERALISM is the WAY.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “Yung Gunman ay produkto ng divorced parents. Best ba sayo yung ganoon?”

        Lemuel, are you implying that Divorce produces children who become gunmen going around shooting children in school?

        If so, give us 5 names of examples of children from Divorced parents who became gunmen and later went around shooting school-children to prove your claim:

        1.________________
        2.________________
        3.________________
        4.________________
        5.________________

        If you can’t completely fill the blank spaces above to accomplish this simple task, then YOU HAVE NO PROOF, NO EVIDENCE, with a mentality of a child Lemuel.

        Some of our greatest US Presidents came from divorced parents…But am I going to be foolish like you to suggest that Divorce produces great Presidents?  No

        Just face the inevitable Lemuel, the RH Bill has been approved and passed, and soon Divorce will also become legal throughout the Philippines to compliment the current legal option to have an Annulment against your spouse.

        And if you’re still paranoid and believe Divorce produces children that become gunmen against school children, then you should think about home-schooling your children now or offer such service to other paranoid parents like yourself Lemuel.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

        Puwera sa Connecticut incident, tune in kanalang sa CI Channel about Juvenile Delinquents in Prison. Makita mo duon ang lahat ng pangalan nila at public offenses. Sosobra pa siguro dyan sa listahan mo. Yung Presidents nama ay exceptions sila dahil strong willed character sila. So they learned to roll with the punches that came there way.

        Ngayon dito naman sa amin sa probinsya, punta ka duon sa Compostela Valley, mga tribu ng Mangyan at Aeta, sa mga squatter residents at sa mga taga bukid. Tumira ka dito samin at patakbo ka ng mga programa para sa ika-uunlad ng buhay namin dito. Makikita mo ang tunay na problema kasi first hand information ang natanggap mo. Hindi yung kwento ng ng statistica at politicin lang. Tanong mo kung anong priority namin dito, pagkain, kuryente, kalsada, tubig, baha, etc. Ngayon tanong mo samin, kailangan ba namin ng RH, Divorce, Same Sex Marriage, etc.? HINDI!!!!! Infrastructure kailangan namin at independence sa Central Government. Kaya advocacy namin FEDERALISM kasi gusto namin ng self-sufficiency. Gaya ng Bangsamoro at CAR. Hindi pa kayo kasi lumalabas sa mg concreto nyong sociedad. punta kayo dito sa amin na naka-paa lang. Unahin nyo kapkanan namin

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “tune in kanalang sa CI Channel about Juvenile Delinquents in Prison.
        Makita mo duon ang lahat ng pangalan nila at public offenses.”

        So now you want to imply that Juvenile Delinquents are all a product of Divorce?  It appears that you just don’t get it Lemuel. 

        I’m sorry Lemuel but you’ve already failed to even complete the 5 names of children who became gunmen for school-children after a Divorce.  You’re just mouthing off with whatever it takes to deceive and mislead readers.

        In other words, you have no proof, no evidence, nothing to backup your false assumptions of….

        “Yung Gunman ay produkto ng divorced parents. Best ba sayo yung ganoon?”

        If you want to dismiss our Presidents that were a result of Divorce as
        strong kids who knew how to roll with the punches, then expect many kids
        to do the same in the event their mother or father become sexually
        immoral, abusive, or unfaithful that can lead to marital wars, violence,
        and annulment (Divorce). 

        If you’re worrying about the children, then you should worry about married men and women with intentions to commit sexual immorality, abuse, or unfaithfulness to their spouse and don’t think twice about the consequences it could bring upon their children.

        If you’re worrying about the children,
        another law should also be included to put such careless, irresponsible,
        and stupid parents behind bars; target the guilty suspects NOT the
        optional process of resolution.

        re: “Tanong mo kung anong priority namin dito, pagkain, kuryente, kalsada, tubig, baha, etc.”

        hahahaha….exactly. 

        So why don’t you squatters stop multiplying like rats and consider your
        income capacity before over-populating yourselves and being stupid enough to bring more children into a life of misery.

        That’s why the RH bill had to be passed…for mindless squatters who have little education but enough instinct to “kan tut” constantly like wild ruthless rabbits.

        And when one squatter unintentionally impregnates a woman, they are forced into marriage…a “fake marriage” that was
        brought on not by love and responsibility, but one that was based on boners and irresponsibility.

        Then during their “fake marriage”, squatters fail to understand the true
        meaning of marriage and fail to uphold their responsibilities again by
        conducting more “kan tut” hunting sprees resulting in the same cycle of
        over-population, illegitimate children, and poverty.

        Divorce is necessary so that spouses who inflict hurt and do not care about
        their children and their spouses, may be stopped, removed and relieved from giving “marriage” a bad name.

        re: “HINDI!!!!! Infrastructure kailangan namin”

        Apparently, your funding for infrastructure projects can’t keep up with your rabbit breeding population Lemuel.

        So now it’s time to focus on regulating your population, instead of spending more and more money to compete with the rapidly growing expenses caused by your rabbit-breeding growth rates.

        That means moving forward to approve related laws such as the RH Bill, Divorce, Abortion…and whatever it takes to control your irresponsible and relentless “kan tut” hunting spree Lemuel.

      • frudo

        ayos ang paliwanag i agree

      • http://twitter.com/Sizzle75Ian ian martinez

        The connecticut shooter WAS strongly influenced by his parents’divorve, yes, and the spiderman cinema gunman too. Both were given to crazy mothers by secret family court system in and the fathers have to pay FOR THE STEALING OF THEIR OWN KIDS

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “The connecticut shooter WAS strongly influenced by his parents’divorve ”

        I’m sorry Ian martinez but what you are stating is what is well known as mere “speculation” or “assumptions”.

        We don’t believe the shooter is alive today to stand in defense of your “speculation” or “assumption”.  Thus, you have no proof and evidence that divorce was the reason for this incident unless the shooter could be alive today to confirm and admit that divorce was the reason for his actions.

        Is that understood Ian?

      • naki lima

        tsong… nkakatawa ka.. sometimes you really can see kung ang isang tao eh ngiisip ba or may masabi lang…  cge lahat kmi sa federal state maiwan kang mgisa mo!!! hahahaha ! kinakain ka na ng makitid mong pagiisip!

      • frudo

        hahahaha ang lufet magisip ni lemuel sige lang naeentertain ako hahahahaha

      • naki lima

         hahahahaha! you rock puple daisy! U are such a brainy…

  • http://twitter.com/wetwidewild wetwidewild

    not everything of European is better.
    they have stink armpit, do you want it ?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

    eh ano naman if pinas na lang ang walang divorce? daming mag asawa na naghihiwalay at nagkakarelasyon kahit walang divorce dito.  yaayaman lang mga abugado dyan. at sa dami ng abugago sa kongreso tyak lulusot yan.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RMNEZCQQHXWOQRXJROQ2CORFU Homer Guo

    sabi pati ng magulang ko na 45 years ng magkasama: kung sa mag asawa ay may hiwalayan option if it doesn’t work, talagang maghihiwalay. Alisin ng mag-asawa ang hiwalay option and they will have to work hard to keep their marriage. YES, folks, MARRIAGE IS ALSO WORK. di yan magic lang

    • PurpleDaisy13

      re: “Alisin ng mag-asawa ang hiwalay option and they will have to work hard
      to keep their marriage. YES, folks, MARRIAGE IS ALSO WORK.”

      Forcing people to stay together despite their wish to no longer be together is against their will.  Thus, you are practicing Communist methods to control people and are depriving them of their right to Democracy and Freedom in a Democratic nation.

      Stop CONTROLLING people against their will and exercise your COMMUNIST practices in another country other than the Democratic People’s Republic of the Philippines Homer Guo.

    • naki lima

       Hindi lahat ng mgasawa katulad ng mga magulang… i thinks its better for you to just be thankful because you have a wonderful and loving parents like them that they worked out their individuality for their children. What about for those couples na talagang divorce nlng ang pagasa to have a better life.. think out of the box sometimes dude… hindi may maicomment ka lang…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SQHMR3B2DOL7G2OB6IRD46KWN4 MERSOLE

    We already have provisions in the Family Code for annulment and legal separation. What is out there that necessitates a divorce law? It is totally unnecessary. There are better things to do Mr. Belmonte. Review existing laws, think of ways how to streamline traffic management across the country, legislate a bill to standardize road signages, establish a Civil Service Institute, change MMDA to Metro Manila Integrated Transport System and let it operate public transport around the megapolis. Give traffic enforcement to the PNP instead of those hapless blue boys. Ang daming dapat gawin, Why do you have to work on something that will cause the disintegration of the Filipino family? Just because we are the only ones left without a divorce law does not mean we have to do it. 

  • madallison

    If two people are fighting everyday and so miserable who are we to force them to be together? It’s their relationship so let them decide whether or not they should be together. Not every couple is the same so everyone with comments about their marriage or their parents’ relationship cant apply their situation to other couples. I don’t really think its anyone’s business whether they should stay together or not. We are not the one who has to live with the person day in and day out. We don’t know what goes on in their home. Let’s not be hypocrites, so many people have mistresses and affairs. So why not just divorce their spouses instead of lying and sneaking around behind their backs. And besides, if there is divorce maybe some men (or women) will think twice about fooling around. As for all the other reasons, I don’t see what the difference is with annulment or separation. It’s all technical but a rose by any other name… It’s still the same banana. Families are torn apart, kids are still not with both parents in a single home. Call it annulment, separation, divorce, the effect is the same. Except divorce is cheaper and even the poor can avail of it. If a couple is going to separate anyway, might as well do it properly in the courts and settle their differences and settle their distribution of assets properly. Let’s be realistic, stop being holier-than-thou hypocrites!

  • im_earth

    @@PhilippineDailyInquirer:disqus – I am avid fan on your NEWSPRINT and INTERNET NEWS.
    - I would like to comment on your front page pictures and big font headings in the FRONT PAGE. It is confusing that photo with Pres Aquino with two AFP have big LETTERS with ‘DIVORCE BILL – NEXT’. should it be the BIG PHOTO should match with BIG FONT?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SQHMR3B2DOL7G2OB6IRD46KWN4 MERSOLE

    well. yeah! let us not be hypocrites here. associated with divorce are legal fees just like annulment and legal separation. it is like adding a new brand of canned fish. different name but you have to pay for it, nonetheless. the issue here is responsibility and just because you don’t get along from time to time that you have to call it quits. by the time you hit 65, most of the reasons why you fight each other will be gone. you have wrinkled faces that make jealousy superflouos. and divorce may make people think twice on fooling around? come on! it encourages them, good heavens.  

  • madallison

    Some couples are not fighting from time to time, they fight everyday and can’t stand each other, or worse the husband beats the wife. The proposed divorce bill is for people who have been separated five years or legally separated for two yrs already. The expense of a divorce is not as expensive as annulment, and you don’t have to try to prove the other is crazy or mentally incapacitated. It’s not always about responsibility, a lot of couples were genuinely in love but fell out of love. We can’t judge, every couple is diff.

  • http://MaximizingMarriage.com/ Sebs | MaximizingMarriage.com

    The divorce law will not “protect and strengthen marriage and the family as basic social institutions.” On the other hand, it will destroy more marriages. The divorce law is not the solution to failed marriages. Love and commitment and Jesus Christ is the solution for troubled marriages.

    • PurpleDaisy13

      re: “Love and commitment and Jesus Christ is the solution for troubled marriages.”

      After a certain number of years of marriage, a spouse can fall out of love and abandon all commitment that leads to an abusive marriage, sexual immorality, and/or unfaithfulness.

      And when this escalates into violence and lack of respect, Annulment or Divorce is an optional solution to a dangerous marriage that must be destroyed in order to save those being harmed.

      Marriage is NOT for everyone:

      “So the person who marries his fiancee does well, and the person who doesn’t marry does even better.

      – Corinthians 7:38

      • http://MaximizingMarriage.com/ Sebs | MaximizingMarriage.com

        How about this? Let’s make sexual immorality and unfaithfulness a crime? :)

      • PurpleDaisy13

        That would work.

        So couples who choose to marry under certain strict religious beliefs will have to sign an additional contract agreement that includes these provisions so they will know exactly what they’re getting themselves into.  Marriages will be reinforced with more than just a spiritual obligation but a legally binding obligation that can lead to jail time if violated.

        While those who aren’t too confident about themselves may choose to convert to more lenient organizations or religious groups to get married, “partnered”, or “merged”.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VS5EYSP4FPOTVQCJZ24NRE6Z2M Edgardo Mendoza

    YANG DEVORCE SA MAY PERA LANG YAN AT YUNG NAMAN ANALMENT SA KATOLIKO MAHIRAP KA DI MO KAKAYANIN ANG PRESYO HUMINGI KAYA TAYO NG TULONG KAY BISHOPS MAY 17 BILLION PERA YAN SA BANKO TAX FREE!!

  • http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/168/c/c/china_11_05_12_philippine_protester_burning_fl_by_lightisi-d69enay.jpg marco antonio perez

    hindi papasa ang divorce bill, walang konkretong basehan para diyan, lantarang imoralidad ang idudulot nito, hindi kagaya nang rhbill.

    • frudo

      papasa yan di nman na lahat ng Pinoy uto uto sa simbahan mapangalipin at pakialamero,

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/F3MQCMLOZ2KRHSIYGCJ7FSO2DQ Juan

    ungas ka MARCO, lalaki ka kasi kaya d mo naiintindihan ang mga babae na basted ka siguro ng ilang beses. Maraming babae ang nagiging martyr, nagiging housewife walang trabaho dahil nag titiis sa mga lalakeng katulad mo. Panahon na lalong maging pantay ang rights, umunlad ang bansa.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/F3MQCMLOZ2KRHSIYGCJ7FSO2DQ Juan

    Isa pa, pag may divorce bill uunlad lalo ang bansa dahil yung mga lalakeng katulad ni Marco na bastah aanakan lang ang babae is mapapaisip dahil MAKUKULONG ka kapag d mo pinanagutan ang BATA. Diba ganun nangyayari sa pinas ngayun????  Aaanakan ang babae tapus iiwanan?? legal na nangyayari sa bansa. Kaya pag may Divorce maiiwasan ang mga ganung trahedya ng sa gayun umunlad ang bansa hindi puro kalibugan lang ang iniisip

  • $53950194

    we should have this bill. who cares about the catholic church.  they are nuisance after all.

  • Ronald Diaz

    What happen to our beloved country??? After the non-sense RH bill, another one again “Divorce bill”.. To our Congressmen and Senators would you please think for the better future of our nation not by corrupting our spiritual foundation which symbolizes who we ARE..Is this how you served your country by spoiling our image that our ancestors preserve for generations????

    I hope that God will enlightened your hearts and mind.

    • PurpleDaisy13

      re: “spiritual foundation which symbolizes who we ARE”

      hahahaha….Christianity IS NOT the religion of your original ancestors Ronald Diaz. 

      After Spain invaded and conquered the land of your Austronesian ancestors 480 years ago, they enslaved all of your native ancestors and forced you to learn Christianity so that they could CONTROL your minds and make you FEAR a god invented by authors 2000 years ago that you would learn to accept and believe.

      Just look at yourself in the mirror Ronald…and take a good look at a god-fearing servant of a dictator who uses fear to control you and offers spiritual rewards to entice your hopes, dreams, and greed.

      And here you are 480 years later still gullible and duped by Spain’s magical success.

      • naki lima

        Love it purple daisy! GO GO GO

    • naki lima

      hey dude… masyado ka nmang narrow minded…

    • frudo

      ang punto kasi dito ay hindi lahat ng tao sa PInas ay Christian, at hindi pare pareho ng paniniwala  kaya dapat may divorce law para dun sa mga taong di na kayang magsama ng maayos, divorce law ay opiton di mandatory, so anu problema dun

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

      @ronald Wag mong pansinin yang mga negative reactions kasi mga Juvenile Delinquents yan na nagmamarunong sa buhay. Tuloy mo lang krusada laban sa kasamaan

  • simondj

    divorce law? okay sumahin natin,, file ng kaso bayad ay 30 to 40 thousand pesos, bayad abogado 1000 – 1500 pesos per hearing, bayad sa testigo 300 per tao per hearing, tatagal ang kaso ng tatlong taon. walang mahirap na tao ang gagastos ng ganito,,, useless.

    • Don Dee

      Maraming versions ang divorce law. I hope sa Pinas gawin nilang simple. Kung ang kasal ay 300 Php lang ang court fee, I am sure we can have a reverse process that is not too far from that amount.

  • CIA_Bhest

    who among the senators voted in favor of the rh bill post it… election is coming to town…

    • SignTheWaiverNow

      IN FAVOR:
      1. ALAN PETER CAYETANO
      2. PIA CAYETANO
      3. FRANK DRILON
      4. MIRIAM SANTIAGO
      5. JOKER ARROYO
      6. EDGARDO “APECO ” ANGARA
      7. LOREN LEGARDA
      8. TEOFISTO GUINGONA III
      9. RALPH RECTO
      10. KIKO PANGILINAN
      11. FERDINAND MARCOS JR
      12. CHIZ ESCUDERO
      13. PING LACSON

      AGAINST:
      1. JINGGOY ESTRADA
      2. JOHNNY ENRILE
      3. TITO SOTTO
      4. BONG REVILLA
      5. SONNY TRILLANES
      6. GRINGO HONASAN
      7. MANNY VILLAR
      8. KOKO PIMENTEL

      ABSENT:
      1. SERGE OSMENA
      2. LITO LAPID

      Kaya sa lahat ng Katoliko, tandaan ninyo mabuti ang mga pumabor sa RH bill, lalo nating bantayan yung mga anak nilang tatakbo bilang senador tulad nila:

      Political Dynasty group of LP:
      1. SONNY “APECO” ANGARA
      2. BAM “NO CREDENTIAL, PURE KAPAL MUKS ONLY” AQUINO

      Re-electionist na political butterflies at hindi dapat iboto:
      1. ALAN PETER CAYETANO
      2. LOREN LEGARDA
      3. CHIZ “THE NOYBI MASTERMIND” ESCUDERO

      • cato_the_younger

        Since the survey shows 70% of Catholics in RP more or less favor artificial contraception, you might have another think coming. Actually, if the past is used as basis, hindi mangyayari ang gusto mo. Do you remember a guy named Juan Flavier? Even though the RC Church campaigned against him because he wanted condoms to prevent AIDS (and it turns out that even the current Pope agrees with him), he was still elected senator. You have to credit people with more common sense and brains. Not all of your fellow co-religionists are fanatics and brain-dead.

  • CIA_Bhest

    ??

  • SignTheWaiverNow

    REMOVE BELMONTE FROM CONGRESS – NEXT!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2DG3R2AAQZDON2KH45T3YC5DOA del pillar

    At their age Rep. Lagman n Belmonte should already prepare themselves for their “CALLING”! Before it will be too late!!!!!!

    • generalproblem

      eh kasi naman wala nang asim misis nyang dalwa na yan at si pia naman ay tigang kaya gusto nila divorce para mapalitan na mga asawa nila. at the end dadami ang mga single mother sa pinas at dadami ang mga asawa ng lalaki.  itong divorce na ito eh pabor na pabor sa mga lalaki. pag gusto mo hiwalayan asawa mo gulpihin mo lang pwede na kayo divorce

  • sacrebleau

    The areas of contention with the divorce law, I would imagine, would be:
    1. Custody
    2. Child support
    3. Conjugal property
    This law would force a lot of married filipinos, especially men, to mature and accept legal responsibilities for their actions.

    • generalproblem

      yes and that is every expensive hehehhe. tingnan lang natin kung magawa pang makipag divorce dahil kulong ang aabutin mo pag dimo nasunod ang divorce agreement.

      • sacrebleau

        Yes, this would greatly affect yung mga maraming kabet at anak sa labas. I would be surprised if womanizing wouldn’t be a ground for divorce, if ever.

      • frudo

        yes ang magdadalawang isip na ang mga lalaki na basta na lang iiwan ang asawa nila pag nakakita ng iba dahil obligado na sila magbayad ng childe support, dami kaya sa Pinas na basta na lang iiwan ang mga asawat anak ni wla ha and ho  basta pinabayaan lang. kinalabasan ng gurl single mom magisang nagtataguyod ng mga anak nya,

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2I5Z6CAZKOTTPZEHG4LFXYUFFA dudes

    Hinde ako Pabor at hinde din ako sang ayun sa divorse pero papaano yung mga kababayan natin naghihirap sa kanilang mga asawa araw araw binugbog verbal abuse babae man o lalaki nakakatikim nang pag abuso……

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

      Ikulong ang asawang nambubugbog, babae man o  lalaki. Bugbog sa katawan, bugbog sa mapang-abusong bunganga, etc. Inilahad nasa Bibliya lahat ng kasagutan sa problema sa buhay ng tao.

      • naki lima

         ang taray ng mga suggestions mo lemuel pang walang utak na level!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

        @naki sawsaw, Ikaw mataas ang level mo dahil hindi ka nagbasa ng Bibliya, ganun? Mga pagans kayo, dun nalang kayo tumira sa Spratlys at gawin nyong Autonomous Regions of PAGANS. Nakakrami ang Christians sa Pilipinas kaya mga policies dapat ayon sa christian culture. Ganyan ang democracy diba majority rules? At si TITA CORY ang Saint of DEMOCRACY namin.

      • naki lima

        Lemuel Lusaw … ewan ko sau kung ano ang point mo sa topic na to… Divorce bill ang pinaguusapan tapos kung ano ano na ang sinisingit mo ,pagiging pagans naman ngaun?! alam mo may mga kanya kanya taung paniniwala pgdating sa relihiyon at ginagalang ko ang opinyon mo about that, pero wag taung lumayo sa usapan dapat ang tingnan natin eh kung ano ang magiging benefit sa mga tao sa pilipinas…Lets open our minds sa mga ganitong bagay we have to move forward…

      • frudo

        okey ikulong  ang tanong after maipakulong ano na mangyayari dun sa asawa ng ikunulong? halimbawa ikaw yung may asawang ipinakulong mo after mo sya maipakulong ano na gagawin mo? think bro?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

        Punta ka sa babae nakulong ang asawa, at ikaw ang tumulong sa kanya. Ttal marami namang ggaya mo diba? Magtayo kayo ng foundation at matulungan nyo bayan natin. Tutulungan korin kayo kung paano magtayo. Ask not what the country can do for you but what you can do forrthe country. BAYANIHAN SPIRIT LIVES. ONWARD TO FEDERALIZATION AND NATION BUILDING. DOWN WITH SELFISH INTEREST.

  • xrisp

    No Im not and I am not even qualified to be one. Reading the bible is one thing but understanding it correctly is most important. One must accept his limitation because God gives us different gifts and there are more gifted persons I trust when it comes to interpreting the Sciptures. So if there are doubts in my understanding I would never deny myself the opportunity to be enlightened by any priest.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ITHBTUPOQ4WMDUZGLP6F4J4LQE Gerry

    Yes divorce maganda yun. Tapos yung mga congressman o senator na may kabit dapat bitay ibigay sa kanila.

  • arn_arn

    Naku Magsasaya na naman ang mga  IGNORANTENG MGA PASTOR nito.

    Kaliwa’t Kanan kasi yung mga Asawa ng mga PASTOR diyan…

    Palibhasa wala kasi sa VERSION ng Bible nila ang: 

    “thou shall not covet thy neighbour’s wife”

    Sa panahon ngayon more than 25,000+ na ang iba’t-ibang klasi ng mga PROTESTANTENG KRISTIYANO.

    More tha 20,000+ na rin yung iba’t-ibang klase ng mga BIBLE na na-REVISE…

    Iwan ko lang kung sinali pa ba nila yung 10 Commandments…

    baka 3 Commandments lang yung isinali nila sa Na-Revise nila na BIBLE..

    LOL..

    • naki lima

      Talagang bang sa kahit anong usapan kailangang isingit ang relihiyon?
      kaya walang ngyayari sa bansa natin dahil sa ganyan, divorce bill ang pinaguuspan tapos isisingit ang religion…pambihira…

      • frudo

        Eh kasi nga masyado pakialamero ang relihiyon katoliko sa gobyerno kya laht na nadadamay.sasabihin nila against sa catholic faith pag binigayn mo ng talata sa Bible na ang divorce ay biblical sasabihin mali pa rin sila lang asi ang tama..

    • frudo

      basahin mo exodus chapter 20 kumpleto ang ten commandments dun pero yung unang utos ng Dios hindi nyo masunod  naglipana ang rebulto sa simbahan nyo mga sumasamba sa Dios diosan pagano

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/A32HQRK5RWIY5O4THZHWFI33LY don

    “Reality tells us that there are many failed, unhappy marriages across all Filipino classes,” they said…. and ….The two lawmakers said “cultural prescriptions and religious norms keep many couples together despite the breakdown of their marriages….. - I think hindi ito ang rason bakit dumadami ang cases of abuse sa mga asawa or cases if unhappy marriage. Sana dapat harapin ng mga Congressman natin ang almost invisible culture natin…pilit nating kopyahin ang culture of  fast and instant…dapat yung atupagin ng mga BOBOng congressman na yan ang yung pagpapa-aral ng mga mahihirap, training sa mga naghihirap para makatrabaho, tax incentives sa mga businesses para may trabaho, KASO puro PDAF/PORK BAREL lang yung inaatupag nila…

  • wofie

    para sa mga di nakakaalam ng nakasulat sa bible i-google nyo lang ang tungkol sa divorce o pag aasawa marami kayo malalaman na itinago at di itinuturo ng mga pari at mga pastor.

    ayaw ng Diyos na maghiwalay ang mag asawa pero kung kinakailangan ay pinapayagan nya ang divorce.

    1 Corinthians 7:10 – And unto the married I command, [yet] not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from [her] husband:
    Matthew Chapter 531 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:

  • naki lima

    Yes to DIVORCE BILL!

  • poltergeist_fuhrer

    THIS BORN AGAIN BELMONTE IS INFLICTING HIS BELIEF TO CATHOLICS

    • cato_the_younger

      If your husband makes you into a punching bag, would you still stay with him?

      If your husband rapes your daughter, would you still stay with him?

      If your husband has kids with other women left and right, would you still stay with him?

      • frudo

        wala pang syang asawa kaya di nya yan maiintindihan. wla na nga asawa tapos sa amerika pa nakatira kaya wlang alam sa realidad ng buhay ng mga Pinoy sa Pinas

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        my husband will never be that cos ill knw him first more than anyone else

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “my husband will never be that”

        poltergeist_fuhrer, it seems you don’t understand English very well.

        cato_the_younger didn’t accuse your husband of doing such things.

        cato_the_younger asked “IF” your husband did such things, what would you do?

        It’s like asking you: “IF” you won the lottery, what would you do?

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        it seems u just woke up…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

        @poltergeist:disqus . yung mga nagreact sayo ay nagbubulakbol lang na mga bata yan at napadaan lang yan sa internet cafe. Pag pasensyahan mona at wala pang alam yan sa buhay. Hindi pa yan nakatira at napunta ng mga squatter area at mga depressed area sa mga probinsya. Mga spoiled brats lang yan na mga arrogante at nagmamarunong na dahil natuto na magbasa ng textbooks

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “Hindi pa yan nakatira at napunta ng mga squatter area at mga depressed area sa mga probinsya.”

        Lemuel, there’s nothing special about your squatter area and depressed areas.

        Why do you want people to go to your squatter area just so they can see how your smelly urine and feces float across narrow streams of sewage canals along your path to your doorstep?

        Why do you want people to experience your depressed area so they can collect thick mud or dog feces underneath their slippers or shoes?  Did you want us to carefully observe the sloppy job of hollow concrete blocks of your home that’s collecting the overgrowth of mold, moss, pollution, and algae? 

        Or did you want us to notice the rusted corrugated sheet metal roofing you live under with several holes leaking rain water into a plastic beat-up bucket?  Or did you want to impress us with your restroom that doesn’t have a flush handle, toilet paper, or a toilet seat?

        Truth is, nobody wants to see the earthworms crawling their way into your shower room through your drain pipe Lemuel. 

        And if you don’t like living like this…..then at least use whatever common sense you have left and stop bringing babies into this world so they are not forced into living in these disgusting conditions either.

        Don’t think that by giving people a taste of what it’s like to live in your squatter world will convince them to give you funding for a free upgrade in your living conditions…..that’s YOUR responsibility. 

        Stop being a beggar…stop overpopulating….get a job….get an education….earn a good living…and move out of that forsaken dump Lemuel.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

        Kasi nakikisawsaw ka sa mga usapang pangbayan. Ang mga batas na pambayan ay hindi lang para sa mga marunong mag-ingles. Ang batas ay para sa lahat ng taong bayan. And yung policies nyo na pina-iiral ay para lang sa mayaman. May karapatan ang bawat isa dito bayan hindi lang mayayaman.

      • naki lima

        Dude your hopeless… naaawa ako sau… 

      • frudo

        bro paki awat mo na si dude bugbog na kay purple sarap basahin ng mga paliwanag ni purple sana maging fren ko sya sa fb bro 

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “And yung policies nyo na pina-iiral ay para lang sa mayaman.”

        Lemuel, you think “Divorce” is only for the rich and wealthy?

        That’s your excuse for not supporting the implementation of Divorce law for the nation?

        Hahahahahaha

        “Dear President, I implore you to do everything in your power not to allow Divorce in the Philippines because I can’t afford it. Hence, Divorce would only be for the rich and wealthy and too expensive for my squatter level of income which I had already spent mostly on just getting married. Sincerely Lemuel”

        Hahahahahaha

        “nakakahiya ang squatter” mentality.

      • naki lima

        hahahaha! hands up ako sau pupledaisy! NIce one…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

        nakita kona tunay mong kulay ngayon kaya kapala ganyan. Purple kasi nabugbog ka siguro.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        In other words, while you originally thought …

        “Hindi pa yan nakatira at napunta ng mga squatter area at mga depressed area sa mga probinsya.”

        You’re wrong.

        Your Squatter Kingdom is scattered in many places…it’s not difficult to see the awful living conditions you live in Lemuel.

      • frudo

        yun mga siansabi mo ang bumabanda sayo bakit sa imbis na magisip ka ng depensa ay suriin mo kung may punto rin ba ang sinasabi ng kausap mo, minsan masakit talaga ang katotohanan na kala mo nilalait ka pero hindi  

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

        @poltergeist. tingnan mo yang si puurple at naki_sawsaw. nilait pa ang maralita at mga catholi beliefs pero duon nag-aral yan sa catholic universities ng ateneo, UST, LaSalle. Nakikinabang na sa catholics university minaliit pa ang pobreng catholicos na nagbigay edukasyon sa kanila. Mga engrates at hipocrites ano?What values? Kawawa naman itong silang PurpleBlue at Naki_sasaw di nabahagian ng kaluluwa ng Diyos..

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

        @Purple, Isa kapa hindi ka nag-memorize. Kung may kasalanan, asawa man o hindi ipakulong mo lang diba? O bakit pa nya makakasama yung husband nya kung nakakulong?

      • PurpleDaisy13

        Is this the highest education you’ve achieved Lemuel?

        cato_the_younger HAS NOT suggested any criminal charges….she’s questioning if you would leave him and file for DIVORCE in the event your husband engages in making you a punching bag, raping your daughter, or impregnates other women left and right.

        Do you really understand English Lemuel or are you pretending to know English?

        Your English comprehension abilities are horrible Lemuel…”i-memorize mo iyan”

      • naki lima

        hahahahaha,Go girl! i think malaki talaga ang problema ni lemuel…

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

        @naki-sawsaw. kayo ang may problema kasi hindi kayo maka-intindi sa maralita. uwi na kayo spoiled brats.

      • naki lima

        really?!… try to talk to urself dude baka mgkaintindihan kau…

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “kayo ang may problema kasi hindi kayo maka-intindi sa maralita.”

        We understand your poor squatter mentality Lemuel.

        Stick your hand out and we’ll see if we can give you any spare change.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        “sobrang sira ulo nga”

      • frudo

        ay naku ayan nakakuha kayo ng katapat  go go go purpledaisy  

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

        @cato . Isipin mo ito ng matagal ha para mo maintindihan. E, kung ipakulong yung husband nya dahil sa battery at rape, paano sila magsasama pa?
        It’s elementary my dear watson. Kailangan pabang i-memrize yan?

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “E, kung ipakulong yung husband nya dahil sa battery at rape, paano sila magsasama pa?”

        Is this the highest education you’ve achieved Lemuel?

        cato_the_younger HAS NOT suggested any criminal charges….she’s questioning if you would leave him and file for DIVORCE in the event your husband engages in making you a punching bag, raping your daughter, or impregnates other women left and right.

        Do you really understand English Lemuel or are you pretending to know English?

        Your English comprehension abilities are horrible Lemuel…”i-memorize mo iyan”

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

        Ikaw ba nag-aral talaga o sa kanto lang galing? Ang pangbugbog at rape ay krimen yan dito sa amin. Kaya kung may krimen ed di ikulong. Siguro hindi mo alam ang salitang tagalog kaya gusto mo ako mag-ingles. Sa iba kanalang makipag-usap yung mahilig sa English. Hindi ibig sabihin na marunong ka mag-ingles edukado kana o marunong sa buhay. Aral ka rin ng tagalog para maka-intindi ka sa maralita. 

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “Ang pangbugbog at rape ay krimen yan dito sa amin. Kaya kung may krimen ed di ikulong.”

        Lemuel, how many times do we have to tell you that cato_the_younger is NOT asking if you would call the police to file a criminal charge for “rape” against your daughter.
        cato_the_younger IS ASKING if you would leave your husband implying “DIVORCE”, if your husband “raped” your daughter.

        DO YOU REALIZE that some people WILL NOT BOTHER with filing criminal charges of “rape” IF there IS NOT enough evidence or resources to support their accusations or IF a wife refuses to turn her life and her daughter’s life into a world media drama for the whole public to nitpick and criticize?  Apparently Not

        That’s why you continue to insist “rape” equals “crime” equals “jail-time”.  You’re completely narrow minded Lemuel and don’t understand that there are many steps, hurdles, conditions and requirements in order to send a husband accused for raping his daughter to jail.

        And even if a husband is found guilty for raping his daughter and finds himself behind bars….what makes you think “DIVORCE” cannot be filed even while he is behind bars?

        That’s why cato_the_younger IS ASKING if you would leave your husband implying “DIVORCE”, if your husband “raped” your daughter.

        cato_the_younger IS NOT ASKING if you would call the police Lemuel. So stop manipulating cato_the_younger’s question as if it even matters.

        Does any of this English make any sense to you Lemuel? 

        Or did your parents raise you in a Squatter Kingdom and believed that a proper education for you would be worthless in order for the family to survive.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        kitid naman ng utak mo….

        samantalang si lemeul is going beyond what ur mind can comprehend…

        simple man lang iha ang punto ni lemeul sa kaso pinag raise ni cato

        If your husband makes you into a punching bag, would you still stay with him?If your husband rapes your daughter, would you still stay with him?If your husband has kids with other women left and right, would you still stay with him?there are 2 solutions here…one, connoted by cato which is divorce…and proposed by lemuel which is filing a case..WHICH IS ALREADY AVAILABLE NOWADAYS…WHY THOSE ADVOCATES OF DIVORCE DONT MIND THIS SECOND OPTION???para sa divorce, makarami silang PARTNERS para makaraming genitalia…aminin mo na daisy, yan lang naman ang gusto mo…kagaya ni kris aquinoat saka…mas secure ang babae kun nakakulong si lalake…kaysa naman divorce kasi pwede pa mag aligid ang lalaki…

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “and proposed by lemuel which is filing a case”

        Hahahaha….The point of filing a criminal charges against your husband for raping your daughter isn’t the final solution poltergeist_fuhrer – DIVORCE IS.

        Why are you so narrow-minded to think that it’s okay to still be married to a criminal-minded husband you’ve sent to jail for raping your daughter? 

        Would you really enjoy being known by your neighborhood and your community to still be married to an uncivilized beast that pumps and bangs your little daughter like he does you in the bedroom poltergeist_fuhrer?

        DIVORCE the disrespectful, shameless, lustful “manyak” poltergeist_fuhrer….don’t be such a dumb coward.

        But if you’re ugly, with an undesirable personality, and don’t have the self-confidence or self-esteem to find another partner in life, we can understand why you’ll choose not to Divorce such a disrespectful, shameless, lustful “manyak” poltergeist_fuhrer….you’re PATHETIC.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

        Tama ka poltergeist. Kala nila PurpleBlue pag marunong mag ingles matalino na. Di alam na ang  makabuluhang talino ay nakakamtan ng may utak na walang sapot (cobwebs) at may experience na kailangan sa spritual journey for wisdom and peace.

        Purple ang kulay pagnabugbog, kaya personal ang issue ng divorce sa kanya. Generally ang batang pagaasawa ay result of impulsive feeling affection. Some couples that have troubled relationships are founded on  a culture of convenience. A woman found a man at bar then hits off right into marriage.. something like buying candy from a store without really knowing where, when and how it’s made. But this is convenient like having instant coffe, instant mami, etc. That is why this culture of convenience is often misused such instant wedding , when troubled instant divorce. They don’t employ spiritual guidance because they are individualistic and think that they are masters of their own life. They are usually practical minded.

        Tat is why you differ from them because you have that spiritual guidance and confident of your relationship with your husband that your marriage is blessed.

        Its though to have conversed withe the likes of prple so we can pray for them.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “They don’t employ spiritual guidance because they are individualistic and think that they are masters of their own life.”

        What spiritual guidance?…Spiritual guidance is nothing but a big scam Lemuel.

        You can’t prove spiritual guidance exists and you can’t prove that it can guide you.

        It’s all about Educational Guidance, not Spiritual scams.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

        Para sayo walang spiritual na usapin kasi ang paniniwala mo walang diyos na lumikha sa tao. Kasi sa akala mo, ikaw ay nanggaling lang sa putok sa buho o spore. Ang isip mo, ikaw at ng mga hayop ay pareho lang na walang kaluluwa. So para kang aso na nabubuhay sa mundo. Minsan askal, minsan isang alaga ng isa mas nakakataas na hayop na ang tawag ay tao. MALAKI ANG TINGIN NAMIN SA TAO DAHIL ANG TAO AY GINAWA SA IMAHE NG DIYOS AT KAMING ATO AY BAHAGI NG PANGINOON. Kung kaya pinahahalagahan namin ang aming sarili na taga pangasiwa ng lahat ng nilikha ng diyos sa ibabaw ng lupa. Kaya binigyan ng Espiritu ang Katawan ng tao para ito ang ika-iba at ika-angat nya sa ibang nilalang sa ibabaw ng lupa. Kaya kung wala kang Espirito ikaw ay isang karaniwang hayop lang. There will come a time of experience for your spiritual enlightenment. It will probably be late in your death bed or in an eye opening tragic experience. The Good LORD no matter what will let you know of His Kingdom. God bless you sister. 

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “Kasi sa akala mo, ikaw ay nanggaling lang sa putok sa buho o spore.”

        If I were to construct the DNA foundation for a new bacteria allowing it to grow, replicate, and propagate, who do you think created such form of new life?  Some God of yours?  No…that would be a form of life created by ME Lemuel.

        If I create an Android or Machine with software that exhibits Artificial Intelligence, don’t be naive to think God created it…..because I programmed it, I developed it, and I created it Lemuel.  Not your God.

        In other words, don’t use your God as an answer to everything created that you have no understanding of.  If you don’t know the answer to the origin of something, then admit that you simply don’t know…don’t make up bullsh*t as if your God created it when you have no proof while your God had never admitted to you that your God created it.

        re: “MALAKI ANG TINGIN NAMIN SA TAO DAHIL ANG TAO AY GINAWA SA IMAHE NG DIYOS AT KAMING ATO AY BAHAGI NG PANGINOON”

        And where did you get such nonsense about man being created in the image of your God?  From the writings on pieces of paper written by a bunch of men 2,000 years ago?  Hahahahahaha….any man even today has the capacity to make up and fabricate such nonsense.  Why are you so gullible to believe in such spiritual scams Lemuel?

        re: “Kaya kung wala kang Espirito ikaw ay isang karaniwang hayop lang.”

        Please tell us Lemuel….how does one measure the existence of a soul in man that cannot be measured in animals.

        Did those pieces of paper written by authors 2,000 years ago demonstrate scientific proof to determine and measure the existence of souls in man and the non-existence of souls in animals Lemuel?

        If yes, please explain…we would like to apply those methods in all living forms of life on this planet and construct a database of Souls.

        If not, then you’re a joke allowing your mind to be tricked by the usual cleverness, ingenuity, and creativity of mankind 2,000 years ago…..your still a child living in dreams of fantasy, magic, and fairytales Lemuel. 

        Grow up….and give us proof and evidence, not nonsense that you imitate from pieces of paper written by a bunch of old men 2,000 years ago.

      • frudo

        pag pinakulong nman sino na susuporta sa bata ask lang at paano na ang buhay ng babae na nakulong ang asawa, wala na ba sya rright para mag aswa ulit o humanap ng makakasama nya sa pagtanda nya?  malamang ganito mangyayari jan ipapakulong ng babae ang asawa nya at ma kiki pag live in sya kasi nakakulong na asawa nya,, ganun din ang binagsakan naka rami rin sya ng partner  tapos hindi pa legal kasi nga live in lang

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/G2UFL7BAIFFUU6TIW4FFAPTVV4 Ghost

        You’re right Lemuel. Kung naipakulong ang asawang malupit sure di na sila magsasama pa.

        The only problem is: the unlucky wife will not be able to legally marry again under the present system. Kelangan nyang magpa annul. Legal separation is not enough. Annulment is needed in order to legally marry again.  Of course may valid ground naman sya para magpa annul. But of course gagastos din sya for the annulment process if she wants to marry again.
        .

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

        Ang tanong g ko lang , paano ba ang processo ng divorce? Diba ganun din pareho lang sa ibang kaso gagastus din? Kung pera ang problema may PAO o Public Attorneys Office. E, kung para sa lahat ang pakay di palakasin ang PAO ng dagdag na tao. Magsaliksik lang tayo tungkol sa problema bago magsalita para ang tunay na solution ay makamtan. Onward to nation building with more relevant and equitable policies. Do away with selfish and individualist interests and nurture the “bayanihan spirit” for a rightly progressive federal Philippines. Any policies not geared towards federalism is regressive and a waste people’s time and money. Federalizing provinces will empower our multi-cultural society like other progressive federal multi-cultural nations i.e USA,

      • http://Yahoo.com/ Ragdeleafar

        You don’t make a law out of isolated cases…still majority of people are not what you are trying to tell us! If there are broken families these are minority still the large majority have the strong family values, close family relationship, peace loving family, fears GOD & faithfull more than ever! But with ‘Divorce Bill’ immorality becomes way of life that makes the situation worst!!! 

      • ApoNiLolo

        Ang babaw ng scenario na ‘to!

        Sue him for violence against women!
        Sue him for rape and sexual violence against minors!
        Sue him for concubinage and adultery!

        That’s much better than divorce. You get back at the perpetrator and he rot in jail! Problem solved!

      • shots_fired

        then Divorce is not the answer.! ang layo, pwede namang ipakulong unless gusto mo pang nmag asawa ng iba. kaya ganyan ang motives mo.

      • boldyak

        gusto lang namay kikiliti pa sa kanya, in the first place nagpakasal siya sa hindi nya kilala…

      • shots_fired

        yan ang mahirap kung di niya kilala, tapos nagpakasal siya

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

      . yung mga negative nagreact sayo ay nagbubulakbol lang na mga bata yan at napadaan lang yan sa internet cafe. Pag pasensyahan mona at wala pang alam yan sa buhay. Hindi pa yan nakatira at napunta ng mga squatter area at mga depressed area sa mga probinsya. Mga spoiled brats lang yan na mga arrogante at nagmamarunong na dahil natuto na magbasa ng textbooks

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        correct

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        correct

    • Guest

      Even some Catholics would favor divorce.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        and they are damaso catholics…nominal catholics…

      • Guest

         If so, then only 30% are “true” catholics.

      • poltergeist_fuhrer

        so be it…kaysa naman naglipana ang mga hipokrito…mga payaso

      • Guest

        You know then that the influence of the Roman Catholic Church would diminish of it lost 70% of the current numbers. It would translate into an overall mere 26% Catholics in the country instead of the present 80%. 26% cannot be a strong force anymore to deny at least 60% of the people a divorce law. (In the aforementioned scenario not all the would be non-Catholic rest would be automatically in favor of divorce.)

      • shots_fired

        bang di na nakareply si ate, in english mo kasi hehehehe

      • Guest

         Do I care, if she replies?

      • shots_fired

        ewan

  • charlie_oscar

    If you allow the Catholics to decide the advancement of a society – We would all be living as if it was the 18th century!   Time to get with the program!  Stop AIDS – stop unwanted pregnancy…and give  all those hundreds of thousands single mothers a second chance!

    • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

      “If you allow the Catholics to decide the advancement of a society – We would all be living as if it was the 18th century!”

      Really? How?

      • Guest

        “Really? How?”

        King Chuck Norris would be ruling until now.

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        “Intelligent” answer, Ram Bom. Now I know where you’re coming from. And I will never take you seriously ever again.

      • Guest

         Who are you anyway? The Vice King of Spain?

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        Nope. I’m a live chat representative. “How may I help you, sir?” LOL!!!

      • Guest

         Relax, for you as a Christian, this time must be one of relaxing, reflection and reorientation. Relax. Relax.

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        Don’t worry about me. Worry about yourself, for you have no peace in you. Relax. Relax.

      • Guest

         I have nothing to worry about. Relax. Relax.

      • http://alasfilipinas.blogspot.com/ Pepe Alas

        Of course you do. You worry about my next response to your trolling, LOL!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/G2UFL7BAIFFUU6TIW4FFAPTVV4 Ghost

      18th century? 15th or 16th century would have been more accurate.

      Some scenarios if we have let the church led the society:

      People would be still thinking that it is the sun that revolves around the earth;
      Galileo would be known as the aberrant who thought otherwise;
      Intellectuals and other progressive thinkers would have been all burned at stake;
      Forget Constitution, election and civil liberties, the law is how the high priests would interpret them.

      ..

    • Guest

       ”We would all be living as if it was the 18th century!”

      Elaborate on that.

    • Guest

      BTW, Charlie. Don’t take P. Alas too seriously. He is just an attention-seeking child.

    • boldyak

      Congressman and senators decide, Catholics just lobby for their cause…

  • akimaxx

    Divorce Bill is not yet a law, bloggers are already speculating about its merit. My suggestion is observe our communities and baranggays; married couples and their children. Do Filipinos need this bill? Let’s use information technology to reach our lawmakers. See you next year.

  • gervi

    I hope the Catholic Church divert all their power and influence in passing a law about Anti-Dynasty bill, FOI bill, Total Gun Ban and Total Log Ban. I’m sure the people particularly the silent majority will support them 100%. These laws are what every Filipino wants but are being held hostage by corrupt and incompetent politicians.

    The Catholic Church should move on with the RH Bill. It’s obvious the people really want it. They should not sour grape or insist their dogma on every citizens. Not all Filipinos are Catholics. For them not to be called Padre Damaso’s, they should divert their attention to the more important issues such as what i’ve stated above.

    • Guest

       ”I hope the Catholic Church divert all their power and influence in
      passing a law about Anti-Dynasty bill, FOI bill, Total Gun Ban and Total
      Log Ban. I’m sure the people particularly the silent majority will
      support them 100%. These laws are what every Filipino wants but are
      being held hostage by corrupt and incompetent politicians.”

      Your hopes are futile.

      • frudo

        uu tama ka dun at isa na ko sa susuporta sa kanila  

    • boldyak

      kung wala ang rh bill, pinagbabawalan ka ba na gumamit ng condom kung inabot ka ng libug mo?…bawal ba bumili ng condoms para sa kalibugan mo?…

  • padjack

    Ang daming nagsasabi ano ba pinagkaiba ng divorce sa legal separation sa annulment? Ganito yan:
    Legal separation – still married but not living as husband and wife
    Divorce – was married before, no longer married now
    Annulment – it’s as if you never got married in the first place (parang dream lang ba..)

    So if the couple whose marriage got annulled, had children during the time they were married, having the marriage be null and void technically makes the children illegitimate, correct? So to everyone who are so against divorce and are all about “just get an annulment, it’s the same thing naman”, yeah no, it’s not. So you’d rather have children basically become bastards because it’s more moral to get an annulment than a divorce?

    • cute79

      para sa akin mas ok ang divorce dahil di masyado magasto at obligado pa rin ang ama na suportahan ang kanyang mga anak at di maging illegitimate ang anak pagkatapos ng divorce.hipokritong paraan nman kasi yan annulment dahil meron nman tlgang ksalan nangyari.Ang mga abugado lang ang yumayaman sa annulment at ang mga may pera lang ang nkikinabang.Ang krmihan sa naapi na asawa babae ay mga mahihirap.kung magkaroon na ng divorce makikinabang  na ang mga mahihirap at mapapalaya na sila sa kanilang mga asawa umabuso sa kanila.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

      Your scenario on annulled couples with children can be remedied legally. The parents names are in their respective Livebirth Certificates.Don’t make it seem its deadend for the kids just to gather sympathy from dumb and uninformed divorce policy rooters

      • wangad onlee

        di  ba lahat ng birth certificate may pangalan ng ina, ang pangalan ng ama nasa ama iyon kung gusto niyang iaknoledge na anak niya ang bata (mapalegit o illegit child). mas maraming dahilan kung bakit mas mabuti ang DIVORCE kaysa annulment o legal separation. una pag nag legal separation o annulment at nagkaanak ang female partner na ang tatay ay iba, sa una presumed na anak ng asawang lalake iyon at dapat niyang sabihin sa korte na hindi kanya iyon. sa pangalawa pag hindi pa finalized iyon annulment kaninong anak iyong bata. pag sa divorce, ang mga anak ay legit na anak ng dalawang diborsiado. kung magkaanak man si babae sa iba ay wala na doon si lalake. kung pwede ang mag asawa ay pwedeng maghiwalay dahil sa annulment o ipawalang bisa ang kasal ng dalawa, bakit di pwedeng paghiwalaying ang dalawang mag asawa sa ngalan ng divorce. ano ang kaibahan noon. sa una ang dalawa magasawa ay nagkamaling nagmahalan at ang kanilang kasal kasalan ay walang bisa at ang kanilang mga supling ay isang pagkakamali. anak ba sila ng dating mag asawa o anak sila ng di mag asawa dahil di sila kasal, ang pangalawa ay sila ay nagmahalan at nagpakasal ngunit ang kanilang pagsasama ay di nakakabuti sa bawat isa kaya binalak nilang maghiwalay para libre silang makakita ng makakatuwang sa buhay, ang kanilang anak ay mga anak ng dating magasawa at ngayon ay dibursyado na. of course divorce should not be granted without legal obligations of the parties involved. the aspect here is support of the children and support of the less fortunate partner. i am not for divorce because i am happily married and i married my partner with the intention that till death do us part. but this does not mean that i do not support divorce for others especially those who has a legit reason to divorce their partners. if partners are mot happy living together then let them have the freedom to find their happiness while still keeping their parental responsibilities if they have children.

      • cute79

        tama!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

        Kung ganuon bakit pa kailangan ikasal sa umpisa, kung mga obligations lang nakatuon ang pagsasama ng magkarelasyon na Partners. Dapat kung ganuon ang insiisip sa umpisa palang ang mga obligations e di CONTRACT OF UNDERSTANDING nalang at wag pumasok ng Marriage. Kasi ang marriage is permanent wala ng divorce-divorce yan. Ang mga katanungan mo at suposisyon ay masasagot sa kalagayan nina Kgg. Dolphy at Zsa zsa. Hindi na nila kinailangan magpakasal, di ba? So sa umpisa mag decide gaya nina Dolphy na ganun nalang sila hanggang sa huli. O lahat sa kanila wala naman complikasyon. Ganuon. Pero tanungin mo ang mahihirap o yung nasa tribu Mangyan kung kailangan ba ng Pambansang Batas ng Divorce? Alam mo ba kung anong isasagot? Tama ka, Hindi! At malaking HINDI! kasi pareho lang silang magasawa hikahos. Usap na lang sila nyan. Ganuoon lang. So hindi importante ang Divroce Law na pag-usapan pangbayan. Gawa nalang sila ng Contract o last will kung ma-pera. Daming abugado tayong matatalino.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

    NO TO DIVORCE BILL. It’s only for idle minded politician out to make news. This  bill is waste of people’s time and money. Any policy or bill not geared toward federalization of Philippines is regressive. Onward to nation building. Federalize the provinces to be empowered and cater to multi-cultural society problems.God help the Philippines

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BXBYZ5EB467UVJRXK4IOM5BX4Y Todd

    Matthew 19:9King James Version (KJV)
    9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

  • shots_fired

    Bobo ng mga senator natin gaya gaya sa mga western style, dapat ang gawin ninyo bawal mag pa divorce. Para naman mga next generation na mga children lumaking may gumagabay. hindi yung mismo ang Government ang mag bibigay ng way na masira ang family. Bobo bobong government. Kaya di umuunlad ang pilipinas.

  • redpula

    for those who are against the divorce bill, do you people know how much an annulment proceeding cost, a whooping P250,000.00 without certainty if the court will render a decision in favor of its dissolution, not to be discounted that the law also requires the presence of the government to defend for the preservation of the family and various processes, simply stating it takes a lot of money, time and effort for any one with exception of few to remedy a dysfunctional marriage.

    This is a hard fact that must be resolved, clearly it is anti-people.  give others the option rather than shouting in high heaven of misplaced idealism in this modern world, if you are quite happy with your marriages this law is not for you people to opt, but how about those who are languishing and wishing that a day will come that once more they will be released in a damning situation, this is the reason why divorce bill be consider.

    • boldyak

      kaya gusto mo madali na lang ang proseso sa pag-hiwalay para less responsibilty kung gusto mo palitan asawa mo…

      • redpula

        have you read the post?, give the person OPTION to be in or out of the marital bond. Kung gusto mo di wag, pero hindi dapat diktahan ninuman ang mga taong may gusto humiwilay and for pete sake, we are the only country in this humongous planet who has no divorce bill, wake up….. hindi lahat ng tao pare-pareho ang sitwasyon and if you are not in agreement with the opinion so be it, but face the fact, your situation is not the same as others are.

        some relationships work and others not, so don’t fit a round peg in a square hole dude. marital situation are case to case basis, the point is there is an OPTION to dissolve a marital bond if there is a law rather than forcing others to live a hellish and dysfunctional life.

    • cute79

      agree!

    • joshua kings

      in the first place, who placed them in that “damning situation”?  

      • redpula

        a couple can only know the situation if they are living in one roof, only then they would know if they are really meant for each other, there is no hard and fast rule nor a way to divine the possibilities of a problematic marital relationship, it will present itself even without any ones consent.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

      Bakit ang divorce ba libre? Stop this dis-information! Tanong mo duon sa urban poor, tribu, mga taga bukid, kung importante ba yang divrorce. Sabihin nilang Hindi! Kasi pareho lang sila sa kanilang asawang mahirap din at walang kaya sa buhay. Ang mas kailangan nila opportunity for livelihood at mga kalsada, spillway para sa baha, pagkain, edukasyon. So wag nyong sabihing pro-poor yan divrorce law na yan. Pag ayaw na sa asawa nung maralita, maguusap nalang sila para magkaintidihan at lalagda sa kasunduan. Karamihan sa kanila hindi rin naman kasal basta nagsama lang ganun.

      • redpula

        bata ang layo mo, ang usapan dito kung divorce bill ba ay dapat ipatupad o hindi, go check your facts anong dis-information, bigyan kita ng kunting idea, pwede ka bang magasawa ulit kung kasal ka na at yung gusto mong kapalit hindi mo pwede pakasalan, kung magkakaaanak ka ano ang ilalagay mo sa status ng bata legitimate ba o illegitimate, ang ipinasok mo ung issue na hindi naman topic ng paguusap tulad ng livelihood, kalsada etc…. totally out of topic ka, maraming implikasyong LEGAL at ayaw mo o gusto pwede makasuhan ng BIGAMY, ADULTERY, CONCUBINAGE ang mga partido ITO LANG NAMAN ANG EPEKTO PAG NAGHABOL ANG ISA SA MGA PARTIDONG KASAL NA WALANG LEGAL NA UTOS NG PAGPAPAWALANG BISA NG KASAL. may karapatan maghabol ang isat-isa, hindi talaga libre ang diborsyo at wala akong sinabing libre ito, tsaka sa mundong ito there is no such thing as free ride and free lunch, ang punto kaya ba ng karaniwang mamamayan ang magbayad ng P250,000, siguro maski ikaw hindi mo kayang magbayad nun kung ayaw mo maniwala magpunta ka sa clerk of court at magtanong ka ng JUDICIAL COST FOR A NULLITY OF MARRIAGE PROCEEDING.

        Minsan mahirap ung sagot ng sagot na wala sa topic, tsaka ung mismong mga mahihirap ang siyang naiipit sa mga sitwasyon ganyan, ikaw na nga ring ang nagsabi,

        “Pag ayaw na sa asawa nung maralita, maguusap nalang sila para
        magkaintidihan at lalagda sa kasunduan. Karamihan sa kanila hindi rin
        naman kasal basta nagsama lang ganun.”

        kaya nga ganito dahil kahit papaano alam nila ang kumplikasyon pag nagpakasal sila at sa kalaanunan ay hindi din pala magkakasundo.  baka pwede stick tayo sa topic. Oo, mahalaga ang usapin ng divorce dahil itong bansa na lang natin ang nagiisang sa buong planetang ito ang walang batas na ito.  Kung hindi mahalaga sau un di wag, wala naman pumipilit sau, pero hindi pwedeng ipilit sa iba ung pananaw na gusto magkaroon nito tulad ko, sumusulat ako dito para makita ko din ang opinyon ng iba pa nating kababayan sa isyung ito. Kung naiintindihan mo ang sinulat ko makukuha mo ung ideya ng sinasabi ko, kung hindi, problema mo na un.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

        Since binigyan mo na monetary value ang pagsampa ng Annulment, magkano naman ba ang divorce? Ganuon ang gawin mong presentation ng arguments mo. hindi one sided kasi bias yang pagaabugado mo sa Divorce Law.

        At since gusto mo gawing Batas Pambansa ang Divorce Law, ang laman ng context ng argument ko sa previous post is, “kailangan ba ng mga kapatid nating tribung Mangyan, Aeta yung divorce law sa pamumuhay nila”? Pag gagawa ka ng batas pambansa dapat iniisip mo lahat ng tao sa Pilipinas kung importante ba sa kanilang pamumuhay ang policiya na gusto mo ganuon. May research kanaba sa Mangyan, Aeta, Ifugao, urban poor, taga bukid probinsya ganun. Bago ka mag-advocacy magsaliksik ka, kundi individul interest mo lang yang ginagawa mo at walang lugar yan sa nation building. BAYANIHAN SPIRIT tayo. Kapakanan nga karamihan at hindi ng sarili lang.

      • redpula

        dre, paano magkakaroon ng amount eh samantalang wala pa ngaun ung divorce law, PANUKALA pa nga lang, tsaka you jump from one concept to the other may NATION BUILDING at BAYANIHAN SPIRIT ka pa eh diborsyo issue dito, para kang palaka lundag ng lundag.

        ito IGOOGLE MO nang may malaman ka ng bago hindi un ayon sa opinyon ng kung sinoman reference mo, WHO NEEDS DIVORCE IN THE PHILIPPINES BY CHARMAIN K. GLORIA, para malaman mo PURO MALI PINAGSASABI MO, umamin ka na kasi na haka mo lang yan. pag nabasa mo na yan tsaka ka sumagot , para hindi ka magmukhang mapagpangap. baka tumaas grade mo sa history at economics pag nabasa mo yan kaw din. para ung mga pinagsasabi mong mga tribo magkaalam ka kung sino ba ang tama, ung sabi mo o ung NANGYARI TALAGA SA KASAYSAYAN. tribo ka kasi ng tribo, ngayon malaman ung tribo mo ang mali sa punto ng kasaysayan at batas. alam mo, walang masama magbasa nakakatulong un para hindi tayo magmukhang magpangap.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

        Eh ikaw ang naglagay ng halaga annulment case, o e di ayusin mo ang presentation lagyan mo rin ng halaga ang divorce para may comparison na malinaw. Ganyan ang nangyayari sa taong banat ng banat ng salita na hindi iniisip. Bulaga! Ayan tuloy hindi mo mapanindigan ng maayos yang argument mo.

  • boldyak

    Reality tells us that there are many failed, unhappy marriages across all Filipino classes,” they said. “Many couples, especially from the marginalized sectors who have no access to the courts, simply end up separating without the benefit of legal processes.” …AND THEREFORE THE PROBLEM IS, PEOPLE HAVE NO ACCESS TO THE COURTS…THE SOLUTION MAKE THE COURTS ACCESSIBLE TO THE PEOPLE…gumagawa na naman ng dahilan, at ang solution ay hindi tugma sa dahilan…grabe na panloloko…bakit hindi na lang deretsahin na ang problema ay kamanyakan, marriage for convenience, low moral values…and “bahala na” habit…na dapat yan ang gawan ng solution…easy way out na naman ang divorce bill sa malalim na problema at lalong maging malala ang totoong problema…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RFIF3RZOLMXTVBEM5R2ZCC2TI Lemuel

      Well said bro. Yan kasi pina